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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [ John Friend of The Realist Report interviews German-Canadian activist Monika Schaefer on her awakening to the destructive activities of organized jewry and its ongoing plan of genocide against Whites. Having spent her entire adult life involved in various environmental causes it was only in the &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2017/05/20/the-realist-report-interviews-monika-schaefer-may-2017-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong> John Friend</strong> of <strong><em>The Realist Report</em></strong> interviews German-Canadian activist <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong> on her awakening to the destructive activities of organized jewry and its ongoing plan of genocide against Whites. Having spent her entire adult life involved in various environmental causes it was only in the last few years that she  became aware that 9/11 was an &#8220;<em>inside job</em>&#8221; carried out by organized jewry.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">One thing led to another, and she then became aware of revisionism and that the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; is a diabolical hoax perpetrated by the usual suspects against Germans in particular and Whites in general.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">She went public with her views in June 2016 with the release of a short video titled, &#8220;<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>&#8220;. Despite being a prominent, well-respected individual of long-standing in the &#8220;<em>Gingerbread Town</em>&#8221; of Jasper, Alberta, she has faced social ostracism and a process of &#8220;<em>ritual defamation</em>&#8221; from leading members of the community — KATANA.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">On this edition of <strong><em>The Realist Report</em></strong>, we’re joined by <a href="https://freespeechmonika.wordpress.com/"><strong>Monika Schaefer</strong></a>, a courageous activist and truth-seeker openly exposing the fake Jewish “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative and other extremely controversial topics. Monika’s brother, Alfred, was <a href="http://therealistreport.com/the-realist-report-alfred-schaefer-2/">recently a guest on <em><strong>The Realist Report</strong></em></a>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">In this podcast, Monika and I discuss her background, education, and upbringing before moving on to address her awakening process to the lies endlessly promoted and perpetuated by the mainstream mass media, Hollywood, modern educational establishment and virtually all Western governments pertaining to the alleged Jewish “<em>Holocaust</em>” during WWII. Monika gives us her take on the fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative and offers her perspective on Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">We also address a number of other important topics in this podcast, including the reality of Jewish power and influence in the Western world, the systematic promotion of policies designed to genocide the White race, 9/11 and the “<em>Global War on Terror</em>,” and related matters.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Check out Monika’s <a href="https://freespeechmonika.com">website</a> and her great video <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0_BZphQ7Qo">Sorry Mom, I was wrong about the Holocaust</a>:</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://ia601502.us.archive.org/28/items/MonikaSchaefer/Monika%20Schaefer.mp3">DOWNLOAD AND LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW HERE:</a></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> All right folks, welcome back to another edition of <em><strong>The Realist Report</strong></em>. This is your host <strong>John Frien</strong><strong>d</strong>. The website is The Realist Report dot com, where you can find an extensive archive of these podcasts, as well as other radio broadcasts I’ve participated in. You can also find all of my articles and blog posts, a contact page with my personal email address, my Twitter feed — which is embedded on the right hand side of the website, and all sorts of other useful information and links. I am a regular reporter for <em><strong>American Free Press</strong></em>, America’s last real paper. And I also contribute to the <strong><em>Barnes Review</em></strong>, a bi-monthly history magazine, affiliated with <em><strong>American Free Press</strong></em>. Both publications are worth subscribing to and I highly encourage listeners to do so, if they are not already. Visit American Free Press dot net and Barnes Review dot org, for more details.</p>
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<p>All right, with that said, I’d like to introduce my special guest this evening. <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong> is joining us for the very first time. Monika is a courageous activist and truth seeker who has openly and quite publicly challenged a number of taboo topics in modern Western society, including the fake jewish “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative, which is endlessly promoted and perpetuated by the educational, media and political establishment, here in the West.</p>
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<p>Monika, thank you so much for joining me! How are you this evening?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Hello John! Thank you so much for having me on! And I am doing very well, thank you, very much. And I honestly thank you for all the good work you do! Yeah, I’ve been listening to your podcasts for a while and reading some of your articles. And I think you do excellent work!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-April-2017-COVER-1.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-33721" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-April-2017-COVER-1-664x1024.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="771" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-April-2017-COVER-1-664x1024.jpg 664w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-April-2017-COVER-1-600x925.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-April-2017-COVER-1.jpg 668w" sizes="(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/04/29/the-realist-report-interviews-alfred-schaefer-april-2017-transcript/">here</a> for the interview with Alfred Schaefer.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Thank you very much, I really appreciate it. And, you know, it’s funny I feel like I know you although we’ve never actually spoken. Maybe it’s, because I’ve interviewed your brother <strong>Alfred</strong> a couple times now, here on The Realist Report? And I’ve seen some of your video, a couple which we’ll talk about in this podcast. Yes, but I don’t know, I just have this strange feeling that somehow we know each other but, I know we actually don’t. So, it’s great for you to finally be here and, you know, we can kind of get to know each other in real life I guess, or at least over the Internet, as best we can.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, and I had that sensation too! Yes, that’s right, just from listening to your talk with a number of people and so, it does feel like we know each other probably, because we’re on the same page on a lot of these issues, I think.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yes, I think so. And your brother&#8217;s always great talking to. I actually recently interviewed him just a couple of weeks ago. And we dealt with a number of topics that I’m sure we’ll be getting into, in this podcast. So I guess, just to get started, could you tell us a little bit about your background, your education and your upbringing. And perhaps, maybe your professional experience, if you feel that is relevant. Let’s kind of start there, just kind of introduce yourself, please.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Sure. I grew up in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada and my parents came from Germany in the early 50’s. And I was born in 1959, the fourth in a family of five children. And we grew up in a very, I would say, traditional German household, you know, the way we celebrated certain times of year, in a very German style. Like Christmas we had the real candles on the tree and that kind of thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And something that I really feel, that affected us deeply was our parents’ love of nature. Even though we grew up in the city we were very, very connected to the natural world. We had a huge vegetable garden always, and we put great value on going for walks, like as a family. We would go for walks in the river valley and just really appreciate nature. That went very, very deep.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Red-Ice-Radio-Germar-Rudolf-Part-1-and-2-Covers.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33722" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Red-Ice-Radio-Germar-Rudolf-Part-1-and-2-Covers.jpg" alt="" width="759" height="613" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Red-Ice-Radio-Germar-Rudolf-Part-1-and-2-Covers.jpg 759w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Red-Ice-Radio-Germar-Rudolf-Part-1-and-2-Covers-600x485.jpg 600w" sizes="(max-width: 759px) 100vw, 759px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Transcripts of Red Ice Radio&#8217;s interview are here: <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/08/02/red-ice-radio-germar-rudolf-persecution-of-revisionists-demographic-disaster-transcript/">Part I</a> and <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/05/06/red-ice-radio-germar-rudolf-persecution-of-revisionists-demographic-disaster-part-2-transcript/">Part II</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And yeah, as I was growing up, learning in school, the usual things that we were learning in those days, in the sixties and seventies. And I had, like <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/08/02/red-ice-radio-germar-rudolf-persecution-of-revisionists-demographic-disaster-transcript/"><strong>Germar Rudolf</strong></a> — and you interviewed him recently — and he talks about his very developed sense of justice. I could relate to that when he spoke of that. I feel that applies to me, too. I started to become an activist in environmental things and social justice things, very, very early in my life. Like during my teen years. And then all through my adult life I was very much an activist. And it was always on environmental things and also peace issues.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, I have to say it wasn’t until about 2011, I started to really understand how the world was working. But before that, I’ll just talk a little bit about my activism. I actually did get involved in politics. I ran as a candidate for the <strong>Green Party of Alberta</strong> first and then the <strong>Green Party of Canada</strong>, in several elections. I just felt that the Green Party was the one political party whose principles and values meshed with my own!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1009-Green-Party-candidate-with-Elizabeth-May.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22735" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1009-Green-Party-candidate-with-Elizabeth-May.gif" alt="" width="819" height="554" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But that has now changed drastically! In fact, <a href="https://freespeechmonika.wordpress.com/2017/01/03/elizabeth-may-falls-from-grace/"><strong>Elizabeth May</strong></a>, the leader of the Green Party Canada, she did a very public condemnation of me last summer, after my video! And this is why we’re talking today, you and I, on this podcast. The video that I created, and my brother produced it, is called, “<em>Sorry Mom I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em>”. And it’s a very short video, under six minutes. And in it I basically tell the world that the “<em>Holocaust</em>” is a lie! And that unleashed a set of events in my life that basically has changed my life!</span><span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22719" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party.jpg" alt="" width="682" height="865" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party.jpg 682w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party-600x761.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 682px) 100vw, 682px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Elizabeth May&#8217;s betrayal of her stated &#8220;<em>principles</em>&#8221; (click image to enlarge)</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Yes, I can only imagine. You know, real quick, I hate to interject, but let me just make two brief comments. Number one, I actually have never interviewed Germar Rudolf.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Although I would love to, I would really like to. I just, I never have. I’ve heard him be interviewed a number of times. I know he’s been on Dr David Duke’s program every once in a while. I’ve also heard him interviewed on Jeff Rense’s radio program I believe, and Red Ice Radio.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">It was the Red Ice Radio.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Yeah OK.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;"> I mean, you know, I was mixed up John.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> No, no, it’s totally fine. I just wanted to state that for the record. I’ve never interviewed him although I would love to. I think we’d have a great conversation, he’s really, I mean, the expert when it comes to the “<em>Holocaust</em>”.</p>
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<p>One other comment I wanted to make; you had said how you, ever since you were a child really, and it’s probably a result of your upbringing, but also maybe something innate in you. You have this very, deep sense of truth and justice, and you just sort of want what’s right. And want to pursue the truth wherever it leads. And that’s exactly the type of person that I am! It’s maybe hasn’t been the wisest thing to do, considering the world we live in. But it’s just something that I just have to do.</p>
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<p>Again I think it’s something that is innate in myself, in maybe certain other people, like yourself. Do you think that this is something that’s maybe more prevalent in certain people, or something that’s kind of instilled, or innate again in certain people, rather than others?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[09:47]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh my goodness, that’s a big question! I think a lot of people have this sense of justice and wanting to do what’s right. Perhaps some of that gets, I don’t know, squelched out of us. Maybe it’s in our education system and it’s a very demoralizing education system that we have. And there are certain things that create, well, or work towards “<em>anti-creative zombism</em>” if you want to call it that, in our education system. That maybe kicked that out of us? But anyway, &#8230; I think a lot of people power have it but we are fed wrong information, then we can’t even seek justice. We don’t know what justice is!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, psychological warfare is something that I do want to talk about. And that is the most dangerous weapon being used against us and that can ruined any, you know, sense that we can seek justice. People can still have that desire for who are doing what’s right and doing what’s just.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But what I’m experiencing, for example, in this “<strong><em>ritual defamation</em></strong>” that’s being done against me, is that probably a lot of people who are treating me very badly, think that they are doing the right thing! Some of them probably know very well that they are not and that they are actually, you know, deceivers and liars, but I think a lot of the people just get swept along, thinking that they are being righteous, when they are treating me badly, because I have done a “<em>taboo</em>” thing and that is, I have challenged this story, the “<em>Holocaust</em>” myth.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-20579" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation-708x1024.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="926" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation-708x1024.jpg 708w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation-207x300.jpg 207w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation.jpg 742w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/realist-report-monika-schaefer-elements-of-a-ritual-defamation.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone wp-image-14333 size-large" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/realist-report-monika-schaefer-elements-of-a-ritual-defamation.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="723" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Elements of a Ritual Defamation (click image to enlarge in new window)</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Yeah, I think so. And I think certainly our modern hyper-capitalistic, hyper-individualistic society, you know, it doesn’t reward this sort of behavior this sort of sense of honor and truth and justice. You’re not going to get very far if you’re this type of person, at least it seems like it. The system is kind of designed that way, any ways. There certainly are exceptions and it’s not impossible to operate in a system and still have this sense of truth and justice. But it does make things very challenging. And so, that’s one point.</p>
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<p>Then also, I think you’re right as far as, you know, sort of psychological warfare is concerned. I think there is an attack on our minds and really, you know, the way the media works and the way the educational system works. It’s designed to attack this and to undermine this. And it’s very sad! It’s very, very harmful, it’s been very detrimental to our society, certainly.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Absolutely! I mean, I think that the teachers in the schools, when they are teaching wrong things to the children, the teachers just don’t know that. They are also indoctrinated and mind contaminated by the books that they have read and by the education they received. So it’s generation after generation that gets deceived. But that is the worst weapon of all, because what happens is we become agents of our own destruction.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Henry-Ford-quote-on-the-Protocols.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24922" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Henry-Ford-quote-on-the-Protocols.jpg" alt="" width="706" height="344" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Henry-Ford-quote-on-the-Protocols.jpg 706w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Henry-Ford-quote-on-the-Protocols-600x292.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 706px) 100vw, 706px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that is something that is written in the <strong><em>Protocols of the Elders of Zion</em></strong>. That the “<em>goy</em>” will become, “<em>agents of their own destruction</em>”. And that is just the most tragic aspect of all of this! It’s a much worse enemy to have, you know, psychological warfare and the “<em>chameleon within the gate</em>”. You know, that is destroying us, within our own societies by giving the wrong curriculum and bad curriculum and teaching the wrong things to the children. Teaching lies, basically. That’s a much more dangerous enemy then the enemy comes with the cannons or the guns and the open warfare. I mean, that might be destructive in the moment and it might lead to the death of people and destruction of places, however, people can recover from that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now with psychological warfare, that’s difficult, really. Can we recover from that when we have been so misled and contaminated and our minds have been polluted and our spirits have been crushed?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[14:43]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Indeed. That is very well said. You’re totally right about that.</p>
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<p>And the last part I did, I spoke with <strong><a href="http://therealistreport.com/the-realist-report-pete-papaherakles-3/">Pete Papaherakles</a></strong>, and we were talking about the “<a href="http://www.triviumeducation.com/"><em>Trivium</em></a>” of education. And, you know, basic logic and critical thinking. And sadly our society these days, people just really don’t know how to use their brain. They don’t know how to evaluate information. They don’t know how to discover what the truth actually is. And that’s really a big problem! It’s that, you know, you try to talk about a subject like the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, for example, and you just ask someone, &#8230; And this is what I do regularly, you know, when this comes up, like in a personal conversation, or like, if I’m talking to a friend, or something, I’ll just say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Why do you believe the ‘Holocaust’ narrative”?</h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, what evidence and proof is there to demonstrate that this actually happened? Let’s examine that evidence and see if it stands up to scrutiny. And, you know, it’s very difficult for people to do these, like simple things. And I think there’s reasons for that. I think, you know, most people again, simply really don’t know how to think critically and use their brain to evaluate information.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But also, I think a lot of the, &#8230; Certainly when it comes to the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, but also other very traumatic events, game changing events in our history, but especially the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, the propaganda used to promote, to perpetuate this myth, is very exploitative. And it really is a form of psychological warfare, you know, again another topic we can talk about, and a topic that I spoke with your brother about.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/The-Trivium-Method-Summary-Chart.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33723" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/The-Trivium-Method-Summary-Chart.jpg" alt="" width="828" height="930" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/The-Trivium-Method-Summary-Chart.jpg 828w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/The-Trivium-Method-Summary-Chart-600x674.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/The-Trivium-Method-Summary-Chart-768x863.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 828px) 100vw, 828px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The Trivium Method Summary Chart (click image to enlarge)</span></p>
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<p>So I mean, I think there’s multiple factors at play here, but those are really the two main ones. As you know, most people simply just don’t know how to properly use their brain, to use the “<em>Trivium</em>”, to use critical thinking. And also the propaganda associated with a lot of these events is systematically designed to exploit us on very base emotional and psychological levels.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes! You’re hit the nail on the head. So it not only are people not able to use logic, but this subject is absolutely taboo to even question. So, I’ve had people tell me, even if they were trying to remain friendly to me, they would say:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well Monika, this topic is it just off-limits! I’m not going to discuss the ‘Holocaust’ with you! I’m not going to debate it with you! But I’ll still, you know, be your friend.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I mean, those people, they kind of go by the way side anyway. They’ve been more and more affected in this small town of 5,000 people. It has gotten worse, not better, over the year. But this topic is, &#8230; You just cannot debate it! Because we’ve been trained that if you even question it, then you are automatically “<em>a hater</em>”!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, this is bizarre! There is no logic in that, John! Like, how can that even make sense, that if you say that there was no deliberate extermination plan, and that means less people died, that you are a hater! ? Now to me, that is the most bizarre leap of logic, you know? Can you explain that?</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> No you can’t explain it logically, because it’s not a logical argument. It’s a ridiculous argument and there’s no logic involved at all. It’s all pure emotion, all emotion.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, that’s right.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> And that’s the thing, that especially the holocaust. But I mean, other events as well, 9/11, for example. Although I do think that the fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative and, you know, World War Two generally, you know, this idea that Hitler was this evil monster, who wanted to take over the world. And he had, you know, his master race and all this other nonsense. This is really, you know, sort of the most taboo and most controversial topic in all of society.</p>
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<p>And, of course, it relates directly to jews, so if you start talking about Jews your equated with Hitler, you’re equated with the Nazis and you’re a racist, you’re anti-Semitic and all these other weaponized buzzwords are thrown at you. Again, logical fallacies, all of them! You know, none of this is factual.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">All of it!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Yeah, exactly!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[19:23]</strong> </span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s the biggest weapon yet! I mean, if it wasn’t for this success this big, huge, mess of the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, there’s no way they would have had the audacity to do something like 9/11.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2362-09-59-The-WTC2-top-toppling-over.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21562" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2362-09-59-The-WTC2-top-toppling-over.jpg" alt="" width="990" height="745" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2362-09-59-The-WTC2-top-toppling-over.jpg 990w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2362-09-59-The-WTC2-top-toppling-over-300x226.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2362-09-59-The-WTC2-top-toppling-over-768x578.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 990px) 100vw, 990px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And 9/11, I mean, that was actually what triggered me to wake up! And it didn’t happen right away. I kind of knew something was wrong with it, but it wasn’t until about ten years after 9/11, that I started to investigate it and figure it out. And that was a really hard door to go through, because it just meant that, they’re lying to us! Like that’s a huge thing to lie about, right?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s not just a little money scandal. I mean, you always hear about little scandals, this and that, that seem big when they talk about them, like political scandals. But, you always just think, okay, well, they have corruption in this and that, but you just can’t imagine they would lie about something so big. But once you figure that out, that turns your world upside down!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-21557" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER-646x1024.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="1014" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER-646x1024.jpg 646w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER-189x300.jpg 189w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER.jpg 656w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/09/11/organized-jewry-did-911/"><span style="color: #008000;">Organized jewry Did 911</span></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it was after that, that I started to figure out the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. And at first I really resisted it. I mean, that just, how could there be such a big lie? How could that be?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And just to go back to what I briefly said in my video. It was an apology to my parents. To my mother in particular. Because when I was a teenager, and again this comes back to this deep sense of justice that I had, and we were learning all those horrors about Hitler and the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. And so, there I was, telling my mother, saying things like:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Mom, why didn’t you stop this from happening? If you had just got together with all your friends and your relatives, you could have done something about it!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, that was ridiculous, to say such a thing! But there I was, holding her to account, you know, she was culpable! And I’m sure that there was a whole generation of us that, you know, it caused a real generation gap. A rift between the generations of Germans. That, oh! These parents of ours, or the grandparents, oh, they were monsters, you know! Like this what happened.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, there I was, reprimanding, or holding her to account for not having tried to do more! I mean, she was just a teenager in a war anyway, so that was pretty ridiculous just on that count. And then all these years later, and this is after both parents have died, that I figured it all out and I just regretted that so much! And I told Alfred one day on the phone, I said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Boy, I wish I could say sorry!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he just grabbed onto that and said:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! Yes! That’s very significant!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, so then, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> “<em>That’s the video we’re making right there! Do it!</em>”</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, exactly!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Well, you know, speaking of your video. At least on Alfred’s channel, I don’t know if this is, I’m sure it’s been viewed on other channels. I’m sure you can find this exact same video on other channels. But just on his channel alone, it’s been viewed over 130,000 times! So this has made quite an impact. And this was, June 17th, 2016. So, a little under a year ago.</p>
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<p>And it’s a short, very powerful video. I’d assume most people listening to this podcast have seen the video, but if you haven’t, I will have a link to it. In fact, I just embed it in this post, you’ll find it right on my website. It’s six minutes total, just under six minutes. Take the time to watch it. It’s very good, it’s very powerful, it’s very just straightforward and like, look “<em>Sorry Mom, I was wrong and here’s why. And here’s why it’s important!</em>” And it’s very good. And yeah I just really like this video, especially when it first came out. And again<strong>, </strong>it made quite a splash, you know, all these waves, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, It struck a chord John, because there are other people who went through that similar experience. Like what I said, that they were disgusted with their parents’ generation. Which is just such a sad thing that has been done to the German people.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Okay, about the video, you mentioned, that this is just on Alfred’s site. You’re right there’s a lot more views even then that. Because I made a German version, an original German version, I speak German fluently. So that is called, “<a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/06/24/entschuldigung-mama-ich-hatte-unrecht-was-den-holocaust-betrifft-transcript/"><strong><em>Entschuldigung Mama, ich hatte Unrecht was den Holocaust betrifft</em></strong></a>” in case you have German listeners. So you could look that up too.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Sorry-Mom-COVER-German.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22732" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Sorry-Mom-COVER-German-655x1024.gif" alt="" width="500" height="782" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Sorry-Mom-COVER-German-655x1024.gif 655w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Sorry-Mom-COVER-German-600x938.gif 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then also the English version was translated into three languages, within the first four days. Not that we did this, others did this. So, French Spanish and Swedish, I believe. And then these people sent us the links to those at the time. People are just kind of, &#8230; Like I say, it really struck a chord. It was just brief, it’s short, so it’s easy to watch and this thing, you know, about the parents and just saying sorry to Mom, you know, reprimanding her for not doing anything to stop these things! And then figuring out it’s all a lie! Oh my goodness!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Now, I’m curious. There’s quite a substantial population of Germans in Canada, correct? That came over right after the war?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[25:02]</span><br />
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Definitely! Yes. Lots of Germans in Canada.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> I’d imagine, maybe even more so, than that came here to America. I don’t know that for sure, but it seems like there’s quite a few that came over directly after the war?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. Yes and through the fifty’s too. When my parents came I think there were a lot of people coming from Germany. And my parents came in 1951 and 52, respectively. Yes, I think that’s a lot of people left Germany. I mean, Germany was destroyed and also you had the expellees from the eastern territories. The eastern, you know, like Sudentenland, East Prussia. All these different territories that were German for hundreds of years and then, you know, Germany got shrunk after World War One. And World War One led directly to World War Two. These are things have learning a lot about now. I’m really going on a big education, a big learning curve. And I met some of those expellees, people who were forcibly expelled. And this is a story that we certainly did not learn about in school. I think probably a lot of your listeners do understand about this, but millions of Germans died AFTER World War Two was over!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-German-Territory-Lost-in-the-20th-Century-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33724" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-German-Territory-Lost-in-the-20th-Century-.jpg" alt="" width="1015" height="799" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-German-Territory-Lost-in-the-20th-Century-.jpg 1015w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-German-Territory-Lost-in-the-20th-Century--600x472.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-German-Territory-Lost-in-the-20th-Century--768x605.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1015px) 100vw, 1015px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">German territory lost in the 20th century (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And many of them died as they were being pushed out of those eastern territories. And many were murdered, many starved, many women and girls, you know, many young girls up to old women were raped. It was brutal what they went through. And I met a few German expellees who were children at the time — when I went to Toronto last summer to speak there — and I have to say that was just so impacting on me. I mean, it was a very impactful experience for me to meet these people!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Right, I can imagine. Now, of course, you had mentioned you guys weren’t really taught anything like this. This perspective, the German perspective of World War Two? I’m assuming anyways, when you’re growing up in Canada, your parents didn’t talk about it?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, there were some things that my parents did talk about, but I don’t remember the stories of expellees. But what my mother did talk about, over and over again, was Dresden. She wasn’t there, but she knew all about it. And Dresden was the real “<em>Holocaust</em>”! The “<em>Holocaust</em>” of German civilians, women, children and injured soldiers there in hospitals. And also war refugees. The city had no military installations. It had no military targets there. And it had the most beautiful architecture!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1905-Dresden-bombing-Dees.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23920" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1905-Dresden-bombing-Dees.jpg" alt="" width="671" height="599" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1905-Dresden-bombing-Dees.jpg 671w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1905-Dresden-bombing-Dees-600x536.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 671px) 100vw, 671px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And actually the German people started to believe that, oh, nobody would ever bomb the city! And it was there for most of the war. But then in February 1945, February 13th, I believe, it started, or maybe it started on the 11th, I’m not sure now <span style="color: #008000;">[The bombing started at 10:14 pm, on Tuesday the 13th]</span> . The bombing began and it was incendiary bombing. It was purposely to start fires. And many, many, many people died there! And then they paused [the bombing] and then people, as they were coming out of, you know, the bunkers and whatnot, if they survived at all, they were getting stuck in the molten pavement. And then the bombing started again. It was just brutal! It was pure and utter revenge and hate from the allies! And they knew this city was full of refugees and women and children, and that it was there was no military there.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-Bodies-piled-up-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33725" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-Bodies-piled-up--1024x770.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="481" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-Bodies-piled-up--1024x770.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-Bodies-piled-up--600x451.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-Bodies-piled-up--768x578.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-Bodies-piled-up-.jpg 1061w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">It was absolutely a crime! And crime against humanity! And, of course, there were other cities as well which were bombed like that too. But Dresden is the one that my mother talked about when we were growing up. And yeah, I didn’t learn about the people who were expelled.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-24923" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing-1024x992.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="620" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing-1024x992.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing-600x581.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing-768x744.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing.jpg 1047w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Well Monika, as you know, “<em>Germany had to perish!</em>” Which is actually the title of a book.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Written by a jew! This is the thing that’s so amazing! When I was really getting into this information, it became more and more clear, the more research that I did that literally the entire official narrative of World War Two is truly the exact opposite.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Absolutely!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> I mean, it’s very easy to demonstrate this. I mean, we have multiple sources of jewish individuals in America, in Russia, literally calling for the extermination, the annihilation, the genocide of the German nation. The destruction of the German nation, of the German people! Openly calling for this! In books they wrote, in policy papers that they, you know, put in front of governments and have them implement essentially. In propaganda, I mean, you name it, we can go on and on. There’s many sources that demonstrate this.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> And yet, you can’t find one single legitimate source demonstrating that Hitler, or the National Socialist government wanted to, let alone, implement it, a systematic plan to exterminate, to murder European jews! It’s just not even true at all! There’s nothing to substantiate it, aside from jewish propaganda, jewish lies.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, that’s exactly right! Everything has been turned on it’s head! I mean, in the beginning when I was starting my learning about all of this, you know, I realized some things were upside down and turned on their head but, you know, people would say, “<em>Yeah, everything’s on it’s head!</em>” And I would say, well maybe that’s just a figure of speech. But it really is that way! The more I learn, the more I realize that everything is on it’s head, upside down, inverted!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2679-Germany-Must-Perish-book-wih-portrait-Kaufman.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33731" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2679-Germany-Must-Perish-book-wih-portrait-Kaufman.jpg" alt="" width="906" height="569" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2679-Germany-Must-Perish-book-wih-portrait-Kaufman.jpg 906w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2679-Germany-Must-Perish-book-wih-portrait-Kaufman-600x377.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2679-Germany-Must-Perish-book-wih-portrait-Kaufman-768x482.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 906px) 100vw, 906px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But thank you for bringing up that, “<strong><em>Germany Must Perish</em></strong>” book by Theodor Kaufman. He wrote that in 1941. And it literally is a genocidal plan, where all the German people should be wiped off the face of this earth! And supposedly through a humane method of forced sterilization. Now, why I wanted to bring this up, and thank you for already bringing it into the conversation, is that I wanted to talk briefly about <strong>Arthur Topham</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2681-Rockwell-pic-Athur-Topham-Quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33732" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2681-Rockwell-pic-Athur-Topham-Quote.jpg" alt="" width="801" height="614" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2681-Rockwell-pic-Athur-Topham-Quote.jpg 801w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2681-Rockwell-pic-Athur-Topham-Quote-600x460.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2681-Rockwell-pic-Athur-Topham-Quote-768x589.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 801px) 100vw, 801px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now Arthur Topham is now silenced by law! He has been sentenced after a ten-year ordeal with the criminal justice system in Canada for this spurious hate speech, under these “<em>hate speech</em>” laws in the Criminal Code of Canada. And he had a website called, “<strong><em>The Radical Press</em></strong>”. And it actually started out as a paper, a hard copy magazine in the late 90’s and then he went online. And it went only online for a number of years. And he it was dragged through the court system for ten years. And it was just utter harassment and basically jews who didn’t like the things that he was exposing. The truth that he was talking about and the lies that he was exposing.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2673-The-Radical-Press-website.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33728" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2673-The-Radical-Press-website-1024x916.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="573" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2673-The-Radical-Press-website-1024x916.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2673-The-Radical-Press-website-600x537.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2673-The-Radical-Press-website-768x687.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2673-The-Radical-Press-website.jpg 1089w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now he ended up getting convicted by a jury. Guilty on one charge and not guilty on the identical charge, but for a different time period, for publishings on his website. And in Canada the jury cannot divulge what exactly was the rationale for the guilty verdict.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, we can surmise that it was for the parody that Arthur Topham did, called, “<strong><em>Israel Must Perish</em></strong>”. But this was not his words. What he did, is he took the book “<strong><em>Germany Must Perish</em></strong>” and he took a section of that and he duplicated it, word for word. But, he replaced the title, the word “<em>Germany</em>” with “<em>Israel</em>” and replaced “<em>Germans</em>” with “<em>jews</em>”. And basically this was drawing attention to the genocidal original book “<strong><em>Germany Must Perish</em></strong>”.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2678-Germany-Israel-Must-Perish-book-Arthur-Topham.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33730" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2678-Germany-Israel-Must-Perish-book-Arthur-Topham.jpg" alt="" width="816" height="603" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2678-Germany-Israel-Must-Perish-book-Arthur-Topham.jpg 816w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2678-Germany-Israel-Must-Perish-book-Arthur-Topham-600x443.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2678-Germany-Israel-Must-Perish-book-Arthur-Topham-768x568.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 816px) 100vw, 816px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he did make it clear that this was a satire, that the books were side by side on his website. And there was a preface that talked about satire. And this was all explained in the court. I was there for part of it, and evidently the jury was overwhelmed by, I guess, the indoctrination that we’ve all been subject to and this was all just too much for them. But he was found guilty.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2674-Arthur-Topham-on-Red-Ice-Radio.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33729" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2674-Arthur-Topham-on-Red-Ice-Radio-1024x574.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="359" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2674-Arthur-Topham-on-Red-Ice-Radio-1024x574.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2674-Arthur-Topham-on-Red-Ice-Radio-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2674-Arthur-Topham-on-Red-Ice-Radio-768x430.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-2674-Arthur-Topham-on-Red-Ice-Radio.jpg 1076w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, what I really want to tell your listeners and just make sure that this is clarified, is the lies that they now tell about Arthur Topham in the press, when he cannot defend himself. Because if he did, he would go straight into jail. He’s now on, basically house arrest. So he’s not in jail, even though he’s been sentenced. But part of the sentencing is that the website came down and he’s not allowed to speak publicly. So, when they say lies about him, for example, that they will say that Arthur Topham calls for the sterilization of jews. But<span style="color: #008000;"> [because]</span> they don’t put it into context of this parody, this satire of “<strong><em>Germany Must Perish</em></strong>”, then that is a lie! That is an outright lie! And I want to set the record right here!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #3366ff;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[35:16]</span><br />
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<p><strong>John: </strong> You know, I’m glad you have been able to do that, because as you mentioned Arthur can’t even speak for himself. It’s ridiculous!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Exactly! So anyway thank you for the opportunity to set that straight that, you know, here they are lying about Arthur Topham when he can’t even speak in public. And they darn well know that, so it’s just absolutely malicious!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> It truly is. And speaking of malicious activities carried out by governments against truth seekers, like <strong>Ernst Zundel</strong>, I just wrote an article for <em><strong>American Free Press</strong></em>, and it should be published — let’s see today is Wednesday — it should be published in this week’s edition. So, I think they publish on Friday, Friday morning. So it should be in the upcoming edition of <em><strong>American Free Press</strong></em>. And it’s about Ernst Zundel. Who, I’m sure you’re familiar with?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Absolutely!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Right. Yeah, he lived in Canada for a number of years. I’m sure most people listening here are familiar with Ernst Zundel. If you’re not, simply Google the man. He&#8217;s a legend, he’s a hero. He’s been through a lot..</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, in fact, one of those three videos at the end of my six-minute video, I put three recommendations to the listener. Just, you know, I thought, OK I’ll just give the listener something that if this is all really blowing their mind, and they want to know where am I coming from, and I give three titles of videos. The first one is called, “<strong><em>Off Your Knees Germany!</em>”</strong> And it’s Ernst Zundel. The story of what he went through in the courts. And it was one of the first things that kind of caught me turning my mind around the “<em>Holocaust</em>” story, was watching that video. It’s ninety minutes long, so an hour and a half. And I would say, you know, it’s going to be a very, very worthwhile ninety minutes.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-Video-Off-your-knees-Germany.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33739" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-Video-Off-your-knees-Germany.jpg" alt="" width="648" height="549" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-Video-Off-your-knees-Germany.jpg 648w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-Video-Off-your-knees-Germany-600x508.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 648px) 100vw, 648px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Cmp2eBkWo"><span style="color: #008000;">Video: Off Your Knees Germany!</span></a></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Right. Oh yeah, I’ve seen it. It’s great, I think I’ve watched all of the, you know, major documentaries that they put together. And they are certainly worth watching, for sure! Very eye-opening, very revealing, very informative.</p>
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<p>And I mean, if you’re not outraged after seeing those and just understanding what they’ve gone through, you know, what Arthur Topham has gone through, what many people have gone through. People are being persecuted all over the world for challenging the fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative! That’s absolutely ridiculous!</p>
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<p>But speaking of Zundel, the article that I wrote was about how he was just denied entry into the United States. Was deemed inadmissible! By the United States federal government. In particular I think it was the Office of Appeals, I believe, of the Department of Homeland Security. And they cited his revisionist activities, his educational activities, his political views. Which are all very well documented and very scholarly sourced and entirely legitimate perspectives that he’s offering. And yet, he’s deemed inadmissible. Meanwhile, we have millions of illegal aliens overrunning our country. Our government is systematically facilitating refugee resettlement of people we don’t even know who the hell they are! You know, just washed up on our shores and we’re supposed to give them free everything. Free housing, free, you know, education, free health care, welfare, you name it, it’s I mean, it’s so incredible what is going on! It’s like I can’t even comprehend it sometimes.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-Denied-Entry-to-USA.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33738" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-Denied-Entry-to-USA-863x1024.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="759" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-Denied-Entry-to-USA-863x1024.jpg 863w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-Denied-Entry-to-USA-600x712.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-Denied-Entry-to-USA-768x911.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-Denied-Entry-to-USA.jpg 885w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/04/24/holocaust-denier-ernst-zundel-barred-from-moving-to-the-u-s-though-his-wife-is-an-american-citizen/?utm_term=.326eb326ee3d">The Washington Post: Ernst Zundel Barred from the US.</a></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Well, there we see the agenda of who is actually running the country. I mean, I think it was Ariel Sharon, or was it, you know, basically just said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Don’t worry about what Americans think about this, or that, that we are doing. We run America and they know it!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, [about] Ernst Zundel being kept out, are they actually citing his political views? Because it’s not six case then, that’s the end of the First Amendment. And then [word unclear] in the United States, freedom of speech, is it not? I think that it’s incredibly, like it’s very scary, if that’s what’s going on. The United States was still kind of, you know, we’re looking to you guys down there for keeping some semblance of being able to speak freely still. But, you know, this is really, really bad. Somebody being kept out for their political views.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Yeah. Absolutely! Yeah and like this is basically openly admitted in the ruling that they released. And it’s interesting, because this was reported on by <strong><em>The Washington Post</em></strong>, back in April, almost a month ago. And in the appeal here it was essentially, he was denied entry and then they were determining if they could grant him a waiver. Which they did not. They ended up denying even a waiver. I mean it’s amazing. His wife is American. Ingrid is an American citizen and has been living here for a very long time. She lives in Seattle, I believe.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. She can’t go to Germany, because she would be thrown in jail immediately there. And he can’t come to the States. So they end up going elsewhere to meet, you know. It’s really, really sad!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> I mean, it’s very, very sad, absolutely tragic. In the ruling here they say, you know, when they go to deny the waiver, the negative factors in his case include his long history of inciting racial, ethnic, and religious hatred. It also goes on to say the record shows that the applicant, Zundel, is a historical revisionist and denier of the “<em>Holocaust</em>”! Distributing writings, books, tapes, videos, and broadcasts to promote his views. The record further indicates that these publications agitated for aggressive behavior against jews!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh my goodness!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Right, yeah. All of these, I mean, it’s true that he absolutely was a historical revisionist and “<em>Holocaust denier</em>”, I guess. I don’t really like to use that label.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Neither do I. So that basically says:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! That’s illegal in the United States!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Right. Now get this. They also say this the applicant has been a leader in these activities for decades. Which is true. And has shown no regret, or remorse for his actions!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Of course, not!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Exactly. That’s a thing. It’s like:</p>
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<h3>“Oh maybe, perhaps, if he were to bow down to the jews, beg for forgiveness, renounce his views, say the “Holocaust” is true.&#8221;</h3>
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<p>Maybe, just maybe they would let him back in. But no. It’s so outrageous!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;"> The thing with the laws, this is the part I am absolutely dumbfounded that people don’t wake up to this absurdity! That if there are laws to restrict you from saying certain things, then doesn’t that raise a red flag for people? Doesn’t that show them that there’s something to hide? That maybe there’s something that they’re lying about?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But no, that really gets me. I think that alone should tell people that there’s something wrong with the official story. You know, it’s exactly the opposite for some people. Because when I raise this issue about the laws, it’s incredible that some people will say:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well you see? See, you’re wrong! The laws prove it! You’re wrong!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now isn’t that bizarre? That’s kind of a circular thing, &#8230; I mean, you could make any kind of a law, like, “<em>stop breathing</em>” and then if you breathe:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! See! We’d better throw you in jail! You just broke the law!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, it is just that absurd!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> I mean, I agree. It’s totally is, it’s ridiculous!</p>
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<p>You know, Monika, I wanted to get back, &#8230; I wanted to talk about, basically, what led you to start questioning the “<em>Holocaust</em>”? And kind of like, your wake up process, so to speak, and maybe you could describe like some other topics that maybe you researched, or what led you to start questioning, you know, doing research into the fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, I have to credit my brother for basically introducing me to this notion and this idea. And so I was visiting over there [Germany] and I think, 2013, Christmas time. And this was, you know, already a couple of years after figuring out 9/11 and what a lie we have been told about that.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> So, is it fair to say that 9/11 was like your big, sort of wake up call? What led you to question everything?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John: </strong> Okay, and that’s exactly how I was. I mean, before I was really getting into 9/11 I was very anti-war and I totally recognized how corrupt the government was, how corrupt the media was. I knew we were being lied to. I was sort of aware of these sort of broader systemic issues. How corrupt everything was. I just didn’t really understand the extent of it. How deep it actually went and I certainly didn’t understand who was truly behind it all.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Exactly!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #3366ff;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[45:00]</span><br />
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<p><strong>John:</strong> And once I woke up to 9/11, &#8230; Yeah and that’s seems like that’s pretty common for a lot of people. They start questioning 9/11 and then everything opens up to them.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. No, that is interesting, that’s interesting about that John. And there are definitely a lot of people for whom 9/11 was that door that they first went through and then started uncovering these other truths. But, you know, in this journey of mine over this past year, many people have contacted me from all over the place and so I’ve struck up some dialogues with a lot of different people. And what has surprised me is that for quite a few people, other things woke them up.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Like, for example, some people who started learning all about our financial system and how deep and corrupt that was, because of things that happened in their personal lives that, you know, they got basically the bad end of a deal. And then they started digging and looking into that. And for others it was actually the topic of just why is everything against White people? And this is sort of the taboo subject that we could get into, but for me that was not a starting point at all. It is now what I’ve kind of come to understand is that, oh, this end goal is to basically get rid of us and replace us.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Right, right!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">And, oh my goodness that didn’t come into my realization until well after I started figuring out all these other things. The “<em>Holocaust</em>” is the ultimate weapon to use against us. Because you see, there’s this thing that people will have this weird logic that says, oh well, if you are denying that this “<em>Holocaust</em>” happened, then the next thing that happens is you’re going to just want to kill everybody! Like you’re going to do a “<em>Holocaust</em>” again, or something like that. Like this is the logic that’s being used against us. So it’s the ultimate weapon! Meanwhile, it’s the opposite that is happening.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yeah!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">And I mean, there’s lots and lots of evidence of that. And one of the really clear quotes that I have used is<strong> Noel Ignatiev</strong>. And you probably have that on your page of quotes there., but I mean, I’ll just read this, I have it in front of me here.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Noel Ignatiev, a, quote, unquote, “<em>respected Harvard professor</em>”, he says:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The goal of abolishing the White race, is, on it’s face, so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition, other than from committed White supremacists!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">OK, I finished the quote, so think about that. So, if you merely don’t want to be destroyed then you are a White supremacist! Can you imagine this being said. Japanese people who wish to see their culture and their traditions preserved and who wish to see Japanese grandchildren?</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh they must be Japanese supremacists!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Or can you imagine this being said about, maybe. Let’s just pick a country and in Africa, like Senegal. The Senegalese people, if they don’t want to be destroyed:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh well, they must be black supremacists!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, that’s absurd.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> It’s truly absurd! You’re totally right. And see like a basic observation like that. It’s so obvious that what you’re saying is true. And yet this is very rarely pointed out to people. I mean, you have to point out a basic observation like to get people to start even thinking and in many cases they still can’t even do it.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. And also is this conflating of different concept. So, if you have pride in your people and you love your people, you could call it, you know, maybe nationalism, White Nationalism, or whatever., but people will instantly just say, White supremacist! And if you correct them and say, no, no, no! Like how about nationalist, or nationalism, or that you have pride. No! That’s a White supremacist! Like this is this instant leap that people will make, because they’ve been trained to make that leap. They’ve been trained by our media and all the movies and the indoctrination. I mean, that’s basically, you know, how we’ve been poisoned in the mind.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[49:34]</span></strong></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Right! No, you’re right! It is a mind poisoning. You’re exactly right, that’s best way to describe it I think. Well, jews have always, jews and communists and Marxists and those are all pretty much the same thing! Because if you’re a Marxist, or a communist you’re basically, your mind has been poisoned by jews. And I mean, Marxism and communism really are in my view rational coherent political philosophies. They’re jewish schemes to destroy White Christians societies.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> And to take all our wealth to create this jewish plutocratic elite that dominates and controls societies. And that’s certainly what we have in the United States. But jews and communists and leftists, they’ve always tried to attack any form of White racial identity. I mean, going back to the late 100s, early 1900s. And they weren’t as successful back then, because White people were still sort of healthy, you know, spiritually. They could think properly, at least most of us. But really, I think a lot of this is a result of the fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative! And the official narrative of World War Two. See, this is a point that I was speaking with your brother about, and I try to emphasize this, you know, when I talk about these subjects, because I think it’s so important. The official “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative, and I think it’s so important to the White struggle and a lot of people dismiss this, or downplay it, or think it’s unimportant. When in my view it’s absolutely central to our struggle, dealing head on, not only with the fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative, but all of World War Two.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-vs-jews-safe-in-camps-cartoon.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33737" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-vs-jews-safe-in-camps-cartoon-756x1024.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="867" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-vs-jews-safe-in-camps-cartoon-756x1024.jpg 756w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-vs-jews-safe-in-camps-cartoon-600x812.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-vs-jews-safe-in-camps-cartoon-768x1040.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-vs-jews-safe-in-camps-cartoon.jpg 783w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The real holocaust, the fire-bombing of German cities (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> You know, being able to say, look, Adolf Hitler was not this evil monster, in fact, he was like the most righteous, honorable leader that we’ve seen in generations! I mean, we should be able to say that openly and proudly.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> And not even hesitate, not even flinch! Anyways, the point that I was trying to make is the “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative discredits and truly delegitimizes White, or any form of White racial identity. And I mean, it’s not the only thing that delegitimizes and discredits White racial identity. I mean, the jews have literally pathologized White identity through Cultural Marxism. If you identify as a White person and you concern yourself with the interests of White people, broadly speaking, you’re considered this irrational bigot who hates jews and is a racist White supremacist!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> But a lot of this goes back to the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. So on the one hand it really serves to delegitimize White identity, on the other hand, it’s used to strengthen jewish identity! And there’s public opinion polls done by jews, done by, you know, sort of legitimacy organizations like, PEW research center. They do polls on jewish identity and how do jews identify, what is the central factor in jewish identity. And would you believe it’s the “<em>Holocaust</em>”! I mean, it really is. So it strengthens jewish identity, and it is also created this enormous economic, political and social racket! Think about all these “<em>Holocaust</em>” museums, think about all the money the Jews get from this fake story, think about all these fraudulent books that have been written about the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, all these memoirs, all these documentaries, all these Hollywood films. I mean, it truly is a gigantic racket!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, John! You have hit the nail right on it’s head with what you’re saying here. So this identity thing, that is exactly right! That’s the biggest identity thing for the Jews is the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. But also that they have been persecuted through the ages. They’ve always been persecuted, they’ve always been, you know, a hated! This is their identity. They’re taught that from the day they’re born. And I think that most jewish people, street level jewish people kind of get a double dose of indoctrination, but this is their identity, so that’s what they are taught right from when they’re born.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I do have, you know, a very nice friend who is really trying her best to wrap her head around what I’m saying. And she asks very intelligent questions and so I take a lot of time in trying to answer her. And one of the things she says is that, you know, she has a jewish friend and has relatives that she lost in the war and so, and this thing about being persecuted. Like that is how she identifies and that is exactly it! That’s their identity. But here’s the thing that I like to tell people a little story. It’s a little allegory for this persecution. It is true that Jews have been kicked out, you know, we know it probably at least a 109 times from different countries, or regions during the last two thousand years. But there’s a missing part of the picture that we’re not taught about that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:09]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, let’s say John, you go you like to the pub quite often, the bar, and you come home one evening and you’re very upset, because the bouncer kicked you out. And I sympathize with you. And the next evening you go to another bar and then you get kicked out again, and you come home and you complain that that bouncer was just unfair as well, and, you know, and it was just completely uncalled for! And again, I might sympathize with you. And the third night go to a another pub and you’re kicked for the fourth, fifth, tenth time! Your kicked out from different places and each time you’re crying about being discriminated against! And those bouncers are treating you so unfairly! And they are just so hateful towards you. And I am getting really skeptical about what’s going on. And I might just ask you, very politely, what is it that you are doing to get yourself kicked out? And then you say, really angrily:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! Those people just hate people with”, I don’t know, XYZ “And they are all anti-XYZ!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then you start lobbying to make laws against anti-XYZism. And that’s basically the story!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, really, can people just say, well what is it that Jews have been persecuted for, all these thousands of years? Is it maybe that they’ve been doing things wherever they go that wasn’t good? I mean, Jesus Christ kicked the moneylenders out of the temple. And I mean, one could believe that story, or not believe it, maybe it’s also a metaphor, or an allegory, but there it is. That’s the story that the money lenders were kicked out of the temple.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Right exactly. Well, see that’s the thing. Dealing rationally and truthfully about jews, and their agenda, and their criminal activities, and their subversive activities, I mean, this is considered anti-semitism! Like literally, telling the truth about the jews, stating basic facts as you mentioned. You know, they literally — we can document this — they literally have been thrown out of over one hundred countries, just in modern history!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Bringing this up, talking about the reality of jewish supremacy and jewish power in the United States, in the Western world in general, the reality of, you know, the Israeli occupation of Palestine. I mean, the terrorism they have committed, the false flags, and all the criminality. I mean, we can go on, and on, and on, and yet, &#8230; We could easily document all these things. In fact, what I try to do on my website, by using jewish sources, from explicitly jewish news outlets that document this, and talk about this. And in some cases brag about it. And yet if you bring it up you’re called an anti-Semite!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, isn’t that bizarre!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> I mean, it’s like, it truly is the most Orwellian thing you could think! I mean, this is George Orwell in reality. This <em><strong>1984</strong></em> scenario. You can’t even tell the truth, like literally tell the truth using explicitly jewish sources, to make your point, without being demonized. It’s so childish! It’s, I mean, I don’t know it’s really puzzling to me.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Probably most of your listeners know this, but it’s just something I learned pretty recently. But George Orwell, he was actually an M-16 agent and so he knew! And this was his warning to the world. When we read them when we were teenagers, we saw that this was just really, you know, horrific science fiction. That it had no bearing on reality, but he knew! And he was trying to give the world a warning.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Right. I think so. Yeah, I’ve heard that he was connected to British Intelligence, although I can’t say I’ve totally verified that for myself. Either way, the book is certainly worth reading.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Definitely!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yeah, it’s good piece of literature.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[59:40]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">So one of the things that people always say, well, besides saying:</span></p>
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<h3><em><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We’re not going to debate this with you. And there’s no way you can’t talk about this. This is off-limits, a taboo subject”.</span></em></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, if they do say anything about it, they’ll say:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“There’s mountains of evidence! Mountains of evidence! It’s the most well documented event in the history of mankind!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, they’ll also say:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“And there’s all those eyewitnesses. And what about the survivors?”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Okay. So first of all, about those “<em>mountains of evidence</em>”. But they don’t present those “<em>mountains of evidence</em>”! They just keep repeating that mantra. And then when you do look into the evidence, it’s actually the opposite.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Book-The-Great-holocaust-Trial-Cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33736" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Book-The-Great-holocaust-Trial-Cover.jpg" alt="" width="557" height="739" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I just read a book called, “<strong><em>The Great Holocaust Trial</em></strong>” by Michael Hoffman and that is about the 1985 <span style="color: #008000;">[trial]</span>, that’s the first of the two Ernst Zundel “<em>Holocaust</em>” trials that took place in Toronto, in Canada, in the 80s.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Book-The-Great-holocaust-Trial-Back-Cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33735" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Book-The-Great-holocaust-Trial-Back-Cover.jpg" alt="" width="649" height="899" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Book-The-Great-holocaust-Trial-Back-Cover.jpg 649w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Book-The-Great-holocaust-Trial-Back-Cover-600x831.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 649px) 100vw, 649px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong><em>The Great Holocaust Trial</em></strong> by Michael Hoffman — back cover (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I mean, reading that book, that should be mandatory curriculum in the schools! But I’m sure it would never be allowed into the schools, that book. Because what came out in that trial was just most astonishing! You know, evidence and evidence that basically the “<em>Holocaust</em>” did NOT happen as they say it happened! And, you know, there were reports in the media, but the thing is, even though there were reports in the media that they were reporting what was going on, and yet the way they reported it, I as a young woman in my early twenty’s at the time, it was kind of background noise for me. And I just kind of assumed that Ernst Zundel, he must be a bad man, or something. But I didn’t really pay much attention to it, and I regret to say that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Perhaps if I had paid more attention to what they were actually saying, I might have looked into this more deeply. But, because of how they were portraying him in the mainstream media, he was just kind of a bad man in my mind. So you see, this is how they can do it. Even when they were kind of forced to report what was being brought out in the trial.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Stuff like, you know, <strong>Raul Hilberg</strong>, the main jewish “<em>Holocaust</em>” historian of the time. He was the main witness for the prosecution side. I mean, when it was brought into the court that there were no documents that said that there was a plan for the extermination of the jews. There was not a single document to that effect and he actually said in the court.</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“That yes, it is incredible! There was some kind of ‘meeting of the minds!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Exactly. So he’s literally conceding points to the revisionists, openly in court. Yeah it’s amazing! I haven’t read the book, I should. Gosh, I really should sit down and read it. I’m familiar with the book you&#8217;re talking about, by Hoffman.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. It’s easy to read, it’s very short. It’s a skinny book. A new edition came out that’s longer. I haven’t read the new editions, so I think he probably adds stuff. I’m not sure exactly. I have it in my possession, I haven’t read it yet, but maybe he adds about the next trial? I don’t know.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But then, the other part of it, about the eyewitnesses. That is just a conversation stopper, because people feel worried that they’re going to insult the memories or, you know, something about that like. That’s how we’ve been trained to just, you dare not, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Disrespect the dead. Yeah, exactly! This is like a psychological aspect of the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. It’s the survivor testimony, as well as the photographs.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes! And the photographs!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yes, that is what I get a lot, is, people can’t even talk about it, like, we just can’t talk about this, sorry. Or, bring up the survivors as you mentioned, or they’ll bring up the photographs.</p>
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<h3>“Oh, well, what about all these dead bodies?”</h3>
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<p>Well, how does that prove that there was a “<em>Holocaust</em>”? Think about it, what does that prove?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Exactly! What does that prove? How does a pile of dead bodies prove gas chambers? And secondly, who are those dead bodies? In some cases those dead bodies may not have even been, you know, jewish dead bodies. Like they might of, some of them were possibly German dead bodies after the war. Because some of these photographs didn’t come out until years after the war, so.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I’ve seen some documentation about a lot of doctored photographs, as well. I’m not talking about the piles of dead bodies now, but I’m talking about, where two identical photos are side by side, and the one, there’s been something inserted into it. Like perhaps a hanging body and then, you know, a soldier, a German soldier standing there with a grin on his face. Something, you know, just crazy things, where they just doctored photos and made lies out of them.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, piles of dead bodies do not prove extermination of jews and gas chambers, especially. And then the survivors, you know, I do have actually a story about an Auschwitz survivor who lived in this little town of Jasper. And we were actually good friends. He liked music and I’m a musician and so we ended up spending times together at sing-a-longs and that kind of thing. And I invited him over to my home — this is when I still believed in the whole “<em>Holocaust</em>” story and I was doing, quote, unquote, “<em>the right thing</em>” and, you know, wanting my daughter to be educated about it and all this. And I had him and his wife over, to give that talk, because he had gone into the schools quite a lot and given that talk about his Auschwitz experience. He did have the tattooed number on his arm and everything.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, so they came over and we had a nice dinner and after dinner, cleared away the dishes, and then he read his talk and he explained that it was easier that way. So he had a prepared talk that he read, and we listened. And at the end, I just remember feeling some sense of disappointment, because I didn’t really hear any of the details about what we thought had happened in those camps. And remember this was years ago when I still fully believed in the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. Now I don’t think that he was ever purposefully deceiving anybody, and I think he had come to believe all those stories too. And he was a very, very good man. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He’s dead now, so I’m speaking of him in past tense. He and his wife they were lovely, lovely people, and the thing is I think he was a very honorable man, because he didn’t make up stories. So when I see I was slightly disappointed at the end the talk. Because here I had this Hollywood vision, you know, file this way, file that way. And, you know, the lineups of people and just horrible scenes, and that kind of thing. Well, he didn’t describe any of that. Well, he probably didn’t describe any of that, because he did not see that kind of thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, I mean, now in retrospect, it’s just also very, very interesting for me, because I realized, well yeah, he didn’t see those things, because they didn’t happen. Those things that are, you know, Hollywood version of the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. And he didn’t talk about any belching chimneys, or anything like that! He just talked in more general sense of how he ended up in the camp. And he also made several times, made statements about how he did NOT come to hate the Germans — he was Polish, by the way — he did not come to hate the Germans. In fact, he married one, because his wife was a German and he met her after the war in Germany.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he was also not jewish, so he was Polish, and I think he had worked for the underground, or something like that. And he also says that there were many other people, other than Jews in the camp. He made that very clear in his talks. So in retrospect, when I think of all those things, I think:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, good on you!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">He told us all those things and, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Well, I think you’re right. I do think that a lot of jews, a lot of quote, unquote “<em>Holocaust</em>” survivors, I think there are a lot of them that really do buy into the fake story that the organized jewish community has created. I mean, the origins of the story it’s really a combination of the jews, the British government, the American government. I mean, they were making up these atrocities stories about the Germans to demonize them and to garner support, you know, to go to war against them, basically. Black propaganda that became institutionalized. So a lot of these people actually do believe the stuff. But getting back to what you’re saying about this guy who was actually kind of like telling the truth, have you seen that video on You Tube called the, “<em>’<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqGj9eh2Fwg"><strong>Holocaust’ survivors who tell the truth</strong></a></em>”?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Holocaust-Survivors-Who-tell-the-Truth.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33741" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Holocaust-Survivors-Who-tell-the-Truth.jpg" alt="" width="574" height="478" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I think I have, yeah.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>John:</strong> It’s kind of it reminds me of what we’re explaining here. It’s so many people who are legitimate, quote, unquote, “<em>Holocaust</em>” survivors, they provide testimony that’s actually truthful, but basically debunks the official narrative, right? But yet they still believe in it. They talk about:</span></span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #000000;">“Oh, you know, we went into we went into the gas chambers and all of a sudden there was a shower, taking a shower!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">Which is like, I mean, it’s true! Its like, sort of what happened. And a lot of this stuff, lot of the “<em>Holocaust</em>” mythology was basically rumors floating around.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> And, you know, spreading, you know, how gossip starts, rumors start! This is what it was, and this became institutionalized.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Absolutely! There were whisper campaigns. These were deliberately begun and deliberately spread so you could call it the “<em>rumor mill</em>”. You know, at that time I think they actually called them “<em>whisper campaigns</em>”, or something like that. And like, you mentioned the black propaganda and, yeah, that was a huge part of the war. Well, first of all you had to get the world to hate Germans and Germany. And that had been going on for decades before World War Two, already. I mean, I think already in the late 1800s, this campaign of hatred towards Germans had begun.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yeah, it certainly had. Monika, we are over an hour now.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. We have a limited time.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yeah. We wanted to keep it to under an hour and a half. We are about an hour and ten minutes, or so, into this. I do have a couple, sort of big questions I want to ask and I think it’s probably going to take you some time to address them fully. And I definitely want you to do so. The first one is, in these first two they’re kind of related, but the first one is: Based on your research into the alleged “<em>Holocaust</em>” story — I should say the fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” story, let’s be serious, it is fake, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> What are the main conclusions that you’ve come to? Like, if you wanted to make the most important points to someone about the research you’ve done and the conclusions that you have come to. What would you tell them?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, well I think that the ultimate goal for Organized jewry, I’ll call it, like the globalists, is to rule the world! One world government! And they’ve been telling us that for quite a while, actually. I remember when I was at university in the 80’s, I remember receiving some kind of postcard, or propaganda material that actually said, “<em>One world government</em>” and was exposing these great ideas about just, you know, having one world government and peace, they said in this in this propaganda literature. And I have no idea who was behind this and what it was and it’s coming.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But anyway, that is the goal for the jews. To have this dominion over all the world and all the wealth, all the gold, own everything, and enslave the rest of us! And I think they want to annihilate a lot of us, and that’s, I mean, the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, that they call a “<em>Holocaust</em>” is a big part of their equation. Because it’s a weapon that you use against us when we start to point out any of the things that are going on. Like with White genocide. And when I first heard that term, I thought, “<em>what are you talking about?</em>” you know. But it really is the goal. And I think it’s because Europeans have stood up to the jews and that they have been the biggest obstacle to jewish domination over the years, that the European people have been able to stand up to the jews over time. And that’s why they are trying to get rid of the European people. So that would be that.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Right. Okay, very good. I mean, I certainly agree with you that the “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative is probably the number one weapon used by the jews to advance their agenda, to advance their interests. To delegitimize our interests and, you know, to discredit the notion that we can even identify as White people and have interests.</p>
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<p>So, I totally agree with you and I guess, just to emphasize that, I don’t understand how we could really ignore this issue. How we could ignore, or downplay the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, ignore, or downplay revisionism, and dealing seriously and truthfully with the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, with World War Two, when literally, it is constantly brought up and used by jews as a weapon against us! All day long! Every single day! I could point this out.</p>
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<p>Gosh, I wish I had the time to do. I used to kind of do it when I was writing more of my website, but I mean, literally Monika, I’m not even exaggerating! Every day I could highlight and write a blog post, I could probably do three, or four times. Different articles appearing in the jewish press, appearing in newspapers like <em><strong>Times of Israel</strong></em>, the <em><strong>Jewish Daily Forward</strong></em>, <em><strong>Tablet Magazine</strong></em>, the <strong><em>Jewish Telegraph Agency</em></strong>. I mean, just openly talking about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” and using it to advance jewish interests while, again, harming our interests. I just don’t understand how it can be avoided, and I mean, I’m certainly not going to avoid it. But I would argue that it’s very central to our struggle and I think you would probably agree with me.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #3366ff;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[75:22]</span><br />
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Absolutely! I mean, I’m kind of laughing at this end of it when you’re talking about it. Yes, every day. You’re right, it’s not a laughing matter. It is so, so serious. But the fact that it is twenty-four seven in all the different media. Like, whether it’s radio, whether it’s movies, whether it’s, well I don’t watch TV, but just anything! It’s always brought up even if in a movie it’s about something completely different, but somewhere in the movie the “<em>Holocaust</em>” will come up, or it will be invoked. And, you know, what is the most ironical thing about it, is some people when they are maybe well-meaning towards me, you know, just say:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Look Monika, why do you dwell on this thing? That was so long ago, it’s not relevant, it’s not relevant!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I just, &#8230;</span> <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yes exactly! That’s what I don’t understand.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">How can it not be relevant when there’s this strong reaction against me. That contradicts that statement that they’re making, that it’s not relevant. Of course, it’s relevant! If it wasn’t relevant they would never cared about my video! And I mean, that’s something that I didn’t talk very much, but I don’t want to get into that right now. But that’s this ritual defamation process. And I’ll just briefly say, like, I live in a town of five thousand and I think it’s kind of like a textbook case of where ritual defamation is being carried out. Because this town is kind of like a little bubble. I think if you live in a big city you can move amongst people more anonymously, but you can’t in a town of five thousand.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, oh my goodness, they have unleashed a storm against me here, but I don’t want to get into that right now. But it’s just been a most interesting thing. And I do kind of make my observations and I, you know, I can write about it and I do write about it a little bit. You’ll probably, maybe make a link to my Free Speech Monika website with this podcast this, I would assume?</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Absolutely!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">You had a another question for me and so I’d love to hear what that was.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yeah, now that you brought that up that was actually something I wanted to talk about, if you mind? Just addressing that briefly. Just the reaction you have had amongst people you kn<strong>o</strong>w, amongst friends, neighbors. Because I mean, we sort of have, &#8230; I don’t want to say similar experiences, I guess it is kind of. I mean, I’ve been doing this very publicly for a long time. I wouldn’t bring it up with people. People would have to find out on their own, simply by googling me, as if that’s like a very difficult ask to do. But, you know, I didn’t really bring it up and it’s caused a lot of problems professionally and with friends, other relationships.</p>
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<p>So I guess, I’m just curious about your reaction, &#8230; You live in a small town. I don’t live in a small town by any means. But could you maybe just give us some insight into your experience and sort of what’s happened to you with your friends, or acquaintances?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I mean, I still have some friends! I’m happy to say. And there are people who have stuck by my side through thick and thin, even if they don’t get into this topic, or don’t research it, so they probably don’t even agree with me. But they have remained my friend. So I don’t want to make it sound like I have zero friends here in this town.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">However, the general sentiment against me is just, it’s visceral. And I am banned from certain places. The most active venue for music and happenings, happens to be the <a href="http://www.jasperlegion.ca/"><strong>Legion </strong></a><span style="color: #008000;">[Jasper Royal Canadian Legion]</span>, and Legion is this is, I guess they operate sort of like a private club, and they have banned me from entering. And a lot happens there, like a lot of live music. I used to be in there a lot, not just listening to musicians who are coming through town, but also playing there a lot. So that’s off-limits for me now.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33733" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-1024x709.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="443" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-1024x709.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-600x416.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-768x532.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer.jpg 1142w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Jasper Royal Canadian Legion</strong> in a foolish act of exclusion, bans Monika Schaefer from entering its premises, thus throwing its reputation into the gutter.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> That is so pathetic! Wow!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[79:43]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">It is! And last summer I didn’t get a busking license. I was not allowed to have a busking license. Busking is when you put your case out in front of you when you playing music like, in a public place and then passers-by can throw a coin in if they want, if they like your music, or whatever. They can show their appreciation by throwing some money into your music case. And this was the first time that busking became a sanctioned activity in Jasper and I was the one who lobbied for it, years already. And then ironically, I was denied a busking permit last summer, for my, quote, unquote, “<em>my political, non-inclusive views</em>”! Like this is just unbelievable and, you know, when I, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Non-inclusive! They’re the ones excluding you!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Exactly! And John, just to give some background, I have given my music voluntarily to this town for thirty-five years, basically. The whole time I’ve been living here, in terms of playing at fundraisers, or playing in the schools, or playing for the seniors, or playing all over the place for free, because I just have the enjoyment of doing that. But I also play professionally and teach and all that. But I had been giving and donating that my time and my music for decades.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then when it came time to get a busking permit they denied me that. Now, we’ll see how that goes this summer, but that’s still a question mark, I have to say, so I can’t report on that yet. But anyway, so there’s a bunch of other things that happened. All kinds of hate letters to me in articles in the main weekly paper. There’s two papers here and both have had their sort of different things in the papers about me. And one paper, the main one, the weekly one, oh my goodness they are treating me with such hostility! And I have not had the right of reply, basically in terms of this subject, at all. And yet they can write all kinds of slanderous things about me. So, it has had it’s effect. People sometimes, they look at me with fear and then I just greet them in a friendly way and then the fear dissipates.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But actually some of the worst is the young high school kids. And I live right across from the high school and I’m telling you sometimes they yell things at me that are just, &#8230; And they only do this when they’re in groups. I haven’t had, you know, people do this when they’re by themselves facing. One time I turned around when there was a group of them behind me are on bicycles — I was on my bicycle — and somebody shouted something like, I don’t know, “<em>Nazi!</em>” or “<em>Hitler!</em>” I don’t know what they shouted, just something very hostile. And I turned around and faced them and I said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Do, you know, what you&#8217;re talking about?”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they had fear in their eyes! I tried to engage them, but that was impossible and then they zoomed off ahead and turned off and said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You can’t follow us! You can’t follow us to the Legion!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> I mean, I was just kind of laughing and I could hear them, squeals of laughter, like I could hear them blocks away!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Gasper-High-School-Indoctrination-Center-V2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33740" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Gasper-High-School-Indoctrination-Center-V2-1024x605.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="378" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Gasper-High-School-Indoctrination-Center-V2-1024x605.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Gasper-High-School-Indoctrination-Center-V2-600x354.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Gasper-High-School-Indoctrination-Center-V2-768x454.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Gasper-High-School-Indoctrination-Center-V2.jpg 1246w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then there’s other times when people drive by and they stick their heads out the window and just shout obscenities at me! I mean, it’s just absolutely crazy! This kind of thing! But I have to say there are others who, they greet me in a very friendly way. There isn’t anybody in this town and doesn’t know about this controversial issue, since this happened to me and me bringing all up, I guess, what that video. But, you know, when I’m seeing people downtown, or in a grocery store, I don’t bring this up! In fact, I don’t want to bring it up, because I just want to live normal and I greet people and talk about other things like, you know, talk about mundane things, or talk about music, or gardening, or whatever. And I just try to be friendly. And I am a friendly person, I’m pretty gregarious and just try to normalize the situation.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And to a certain extent that does work and people see that. They sort of feel relief after I speak about something else, they feel relief and they want to talk to me about, you know, other subjects, or whatever, so that they can see that, okay, she doesn’t just go around her blow horn all day long and start talking about, you know, the holohoax, National Socialist Germany, or whatever!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway it is quite an interesting situation here. There are people who would just dearly love to chase me out of town and they have sent me all kinds of messages to that effect, and hate messages and whatnot. Anyway, I’m sure that anybody who talks about these things openly has that kind of reaction to them too. But I guess in this size of the town it is very interesting, and so I kind of tell a story with that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[85:08]</span></strong></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Interesting. Well I’d love to come hang out with you in Jasper. Where is it?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Jasper, Alberta (click image to enlarge)</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Jasper. Jasper, Alberta, north of Banff. You have probably heard of Banff.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> I’m sorry, but I have not.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah that’s okay. That’s okay, but we’re in the Rocky Mountains.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> You guys are like directly north of Colorado basically. Like if you were to keep following, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Following the Rocky Mountains. That kind of goes north-west. Because they go north-west to south-east so, &#8230; But, we’re in the same mountain range that the Colorado Rocky Mountains are. That’s the same mountain range and it’s beautiful here! It’s just absolutely beautiful!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Oh, I believe it.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, it’s a little bit of a fairy tale town, because it is in it’s own bubble. A friend of mine calls it “<em>Gingerbread Town</em>”, so I kind of laugh about that, and I call it, “<em>Gingerbread Town</em>”. And the people don’t like it when you rock the boat, because they might get a little bit wet!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, anyway I do have a big smile on my face and I’m doing very well and I’m a happy person. I’m much happier since I figured out the truth about things. Which maybe that sounds strange to people, because it is so dark, these things that we’re learning, and yet it lifts something off your shoulders a little bit. It lifts your spirit. It’s better to know the truth and to do something about it, than to not know the truth. And be bewildered by all the turmoil in the world and the wars! This and that, that is going on, nothing makes sense! Now things make more sense to me. And I can understand things better. And anyway, I’m doing my best to do something about it.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> God bless you! That’s exactly how I feel! That is literally exactly how I feel. I mean, I just want to know how the world really works and what’s really going on. I think I’ve got a pretty good idea at this point. Now, I’m just trying to do something about it, to make it better. That’s really what this all boils down to.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Yes! Well it has been such a pleasure talking with you John and I know that when I’ve listened to you talk before, that’s how I felt too. I felt that we were really kindred spirits!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yes. I think so. I completely agree. Maybe one of these days I’ll make it up there to visit Canada. I’ve never been to Canada. I’ve been to Mexico, I’ve been to South America, I’ve been to Europe, but never been to Canada. One of these days I’ll get up there and well have a good old time!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> We&#8217;ll go out and make all sorts of friends in Jasper! <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Yeah! Yeah, that’s great! Okay, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Well, Monika I will go ahead, let’s just go ahead and wrap it up. This has been a very good conversation. I’d love to do it again in the future, if your interested.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong><span style="color: #0000ff;"> I sure would be John! I am sure would be. Let’s stay in touch.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Okay, very good! I will have a link over to your website, as well as your video that we’ve been discussing, “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em>”.</p>
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<p>Monika Schaefer, thank you so much. I really appreciate it, I will talk to you soon.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Thank you John! Bye, bye.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Okay, good night.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Good night.</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Realist Report COMMENTS</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Richard</strong> May 18, 2017 4:33 AM<br />
Excellent interview, John and Monika. You both come across as lovely, honourable, sincere and well-meaning people – and very brave, too.<br />
Yes, I agree with John that the myth of the Holocaust is the Number One weapon used on a daily basis to brainwash the masses across the world into accepting all the wars and injustice and unfairness and political correctness that the fake ‘elites’ (mostly Jewish) are raining down upon this earth. When Mark Webber (of the Institute for Historical Review) says these days that the Holocaust is basically a non-issue and we should move on and just talk about Israel – oh, my God: how wrong and wrong-headed (out of whatever motive) can he be! The fake Holocaust narrative is THE defining myth of our age and underlies literally ALL the evil that is being perpetrated in the name of a false ‘good’.</p>
<p><strong>Realist Report</strong> May 18, 2017 6:57 AM<br />
Thank you Richard! Agree 100% – well said!</p>
<p><strong>Nick Dean</strong> May 18, 2017 10:27 AM<br />
On Weber – I’ll ‘third’ that!<br />
Robert Faurisson, Michael Collins Piper and even that mellowest of men, Germar Rudolf, have gone on the record and said Weber is crook.<br />
If it were ever in doubt, just look at the volume of material produced by Rudolf, Mattogno, Graf and so many others, on a shoestring, and generally provided free of charge to the world at vho.org. Meanwhile, IHR is mothballed when it had at least a coupla million dollars, plus ongoing income from well-meaning mainly elderly donators who just didn’t know better.<br />
There are five 45 minute RBN ‘Piper Report’ broadcasts starting here:<br />
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7VNP8IjL1o<br />
Someone with time on his hands could turn them into a shorter, less discursive, single edit, exposing the enemy’s take-over and driving into the dust of IHR.</p>
<p><strong>Nick Dean</strong> May 18, 2017 10:35 AM<br />
On Monika Schaefer, I’ll ‘third’ that.<br />
It’s the smart and principled fraction we most need (and which most need us!) And the Schaefer eltern provided two healthy specimens, indeed.</p>
<p><strong>Russian Limbaugh</strong> May 18, 2017 1:59 PM<br />
No event which ever happened in history has been used as the Jewish Holocaust has been used to justify displacement, murder, bombing, imprisonment, etc. of gentiles while giving Jews special privileges above all other races of people.<br />
This is sufficient to conclude if the Jewish Holocaust had really happened then it would not be used in such manner as no other historical event ever was. It is used is such manner because it is a fantasy and not because it really happened as other historical events.</p>
<p><strong>Richard</strong> May 18, 2017 4:41 PM<br />
Thank YOU, John. Keep up the great work.</p>
<p><strong>Lou Ryan</strong> May 19, 2017 10:03 AM<br />
She seems like a sweet lady.<br />
Unsure of the brother, after listening to a recent podcast, whereupon he stated he enjoyed exposing himself to the police or that he was abducted by aliens during his early teenage years.<br />
Thanks, John.</p>
<p><strong>katana</strong> May 20, 2017 3:48 AM<br />
Thanks John and Monika for that.<br />
I’ve started on the transcript here:<br />
https://katana17.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/the-realist-report-interviews-monika-schaefer-may-2017-transcript/</p>
<p><strong>Realist Report</strong> May 20, 2017 8:41 AM<br />
Thank you katana, as always. Your hard work is greatly appreciated. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong> May 20, 2017 1:37 PM<br />
Great interview. You were probably too polite to remind the listeners that these Rabbis not only want to exterminate the white race. They are encouraged by their holy book, the Talmud, to rape our three year old girls. These are the same rabbis that have their foreskin chewed off when they are 8 days old. These rituals ensure that the parasite never fraternises with the host. Raping our 3 year old girls builds an unbridgeable gulf between parasite and host.<br />
The entire history of the “World Wars” need to be seen in the light of being the first big hit of the parasite jew exterminating the White race. We are now seeing the final blow against us, and the holohoax is used as the psychological guilt trip to destroy our defences. The jew is advised through the Talmud, to kill us slowly so that we do not notice. One day the last remnants of the white race will wake up and think, “how the hell did that happen?”….<br />
But, we will do what we can to ensure that it is not the white race that goes down. And we are fighting to win!</p>
<p><strong>Realist Report</strong> May 20, 2017 4:54 PM<br />
Thank you Alfred!</p>
<p><strong>Teutonica</strong> June 12, 2017 1:38 PM<br />
Dear Monika and John,<br />
Thank you for this great interview! Monika you are hitting the nail on the head in so many areas.<br />
2011 also my search for the truth started, on September 11, in response to another 9/11 documentary.<br />
About a year ago I spoke out publicly in a meeting with just one sentence opposing the Hitler bashing. After that I was rejected by a person who was seeking my friendship before. She did not give me a chance to give her detailed reasons for my one sentence, though I asked her for it, but right out rejected me and forbid me to speak to her. Apparently, she considers me evil and that’s that. Imagine you have a judge like this in court, and there are some like this, and definitely they have them in the “German” courts run by Jews. That’s why they extradite people to Germany to grind them through the Communist Kangaroo Courts in Germany where the judges say: “Truth is not a reason to deny the Holocaust.” Like Monika says and JFK said in his speech about the secret societies that they do not come with weapons by day but with secret machinations. Nothing is open and honest and up to debate. For the encouragement of people, when I found out that it was the Jews and not the Russians that overthrew Russia and executed or slowly killed between 66 and 100 Million people, the fog lifted from my brain and opened all the channels to see other deceptions. I’d like to add to the “people do not know how to use their brain” by saying they also do not want to. I have come to understand that people want to belong to a group, and by indoctrination of a false holohoax, they who believe in it all think alike in this area. “Don’t dare to disturb this group!” You’ll have a bad thing coming! And furthermore, these frightening Hollywood Nazi and Holocaust movies had such an intense emotional impact on children that as adults they still “see” these experiences, like the older generation remembers “Night of the Living Dead.” AND ANOTHER THING IS, PEOPLE WANT A SCAPE GOAT. THEY CAN THEN BLAME “EVERYTHING” ON THAT SCAPE GOAT AND NEVER HAVE TO LOOK AT THEMSELVES. THIS IS A VERY JEWISH CUSTOM INDOCTRINATED INTO THE GENTILES AND GOES BACK TO THE OLD TESTAMENT TIMES. Just think about the fact that in the Muslim religion when a girl or woman gets raped she is ALWAYS BLAMED FOR IT and punished for it. No punishment for the criminal. No wonder, as the Muslim religion is an offspring of the Old Testament. Germany is the scape goat for all of man’s evil, just like Jesus, a German – the Germans lived in all of Palestine – was the scapegoat for all of mankind, for their sin (Jews invading a German homeland and genociding most of them) and crucified because the Jews had already mostly taken over their country. To think other than the group means the person will be either dismissed, abandoned, isolated, and at the very best be allowed in with cold indifference, something no one can handle for an extended period of time. All of these have happened to me, including family members and most friends have departed from me. (Who needs friends like this?!) Like Monika, I was also hoping they would be happy about the Holocaust being a hoax, the contrary happened. They hated me for bringing them the good message of the Jewish author’s book “Tell the truth and shame the devil”; they called me insane, told me to see a psychiatrist, told me to get lost, called me Nazi and peace disturber (their phantasy peace). And most people are not willing to talk about it, yes! 99%, after I spent about ½ hour of my energy telling them the truth in several areas, they told me that they did not believe any of it. In my own family in the U.S., where one can speak the truth at least at home, there have been painful consequences for me. I am only 18 minutes into the talk, and I have so much more to say in response to your talk, but already wrote maybe too much. Thank you both! For more WW2 truth, visit http://www.germanvictims.com</p>
<p><strong>Realist Report</strong> June 12, 2017 6:25 PM<br />
Great comment, thank you very much!</p>
<p><strong>Tucker</strong> June 23, 2017 4:32 AM<br />
I have gotten way behind on the podcasts that I like to listen to, so only got around to this one yesterday. I was very impressed! Great interview.</p>
<p><strong>Realist Report</strong> June 23, 2017 7:41 PM<br />
Thanks!</p>
<p><strong>Mike Stone</strong> July 4, 2017 9:02 PM<br />
I really enjoyed listening to this, and I really felt for Monika and the reaction she received after posting her video, which is very good, by the way.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[On the 11th of February, 2017 in Dresden a rally led by <b>Gerhard Ittner</b> was held to draw attention to the Holocaust being perpetrated on the German people in general and the genocidal crime of Dresden in particular. Speeches on the attempts to abolish Germany and the German people were also made today by dissidents and regime critics; <b>Alfred Schaefer</b>, <b>Bernhard Schaub</b>, <b>Sylvia Stolz</b>, <b>Henry Portmayer</b>, <b>Dagmar Brenne</b>, <b>Reza Begi</b>, <b>Valentin Heciak</b>, <b>Valeri Killer</b> and <b>Hartmut Wostupatsch</b>.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">In the following, words of greetings from <b>GERARD MENUHIN</b> and <b>Dr. FREDRICK TÖBEN</b> were read to supporters  — KATANA.]</span></p>
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<h3 align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Februar 2017</span></h3>
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<p>Das Kriegs- und Völkermordverbrechen der Zerstörung Dresdens vom Februar 1945 ist wie der Vertreibungsvölkermord an den Deutschen aus den bis heute besetzten Ostgebieten unseres Deutschen Reiches ein erschütterndes Symbol für den Holocaust am Deutschen Volk. Der von langer Hand geplant gegen das Deutsche Reich und Volk entfesselte Vernichtungskrieg hörte 1945 nicht auf, sondern er wird seither und zuletzt verstärkt mit anderen Mitteln fortgeführt.</p>
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<p>Am 11. Februar 2017 fand in Dresden das von Gerhard Ittner angemeldete Gedenken an diesen Holocaust am Deutschen Volk im allgemeinen und das Völkermordverbrechen von Dresden im besonderen statt. Es wurde dabei der Bezug zu den Bestebungen zur Abschaffung Deutschlands und des Deutschen Volkes heute hergestellt. Redner waren die Dissidenten und Regimekritiker <b>Alfred Schaefer</b>, <b>Bernhard Schaub</b>, <b>Sylvia Stolz</b>, <b>Henry Hafenmayer</b>, <b>Dagmar Brenne</b>, <b>Reza Begi</b>, <b>Valentin Heciak</b>, <b>Valerij Killer</b> und <b>Hartmut Wostupatsch</b>.</p>
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<p>Im folgenden der Wortlaut der zu diesem Anlaß in Dresden verlesenen Grußworte von GERARD MENUHIN und Dr. FREDRICK TÖBEN. Beides furchtlose Kämpfer der Wahrhaftigkeit gegen eine Mafia der Einschüchterung und der Willkür des Machtmißbrauchs, welche ihre Interessen unter Einsatz des Terrors einer immer noch schlimmer werdenden Meinungsverfolgung gegen Dissidenten und Regimekritiker aufrechtzuerhalten versucht. Aber das wird am Ende vergeblich sein — denn mit Meinungsverboten und Meinungsverfolgung ließ sich noch niemals in der Geschichte das auf Dauer aufrechterhalten, was schon allein deshalb den dringenden Verdacht erweckt, keine Wahrheit zu sein, da es zu seinem Bestand der Meinungsverbote und der Meinungsverfolgung bedarf und nicht ohne diese allerschäbigsten Methoden einer Diktatur auskommt, sich nicht den Bedingungen der Meinungsfreiheit und der offenen Diskussion sowie des kritischen Angezweifeltwerdens zu stellen wagt. Dies wohl im Wissen darum, diesen Bedingungen nicht standhalten zu können. Doch was mit dem Verbrechen der Meinungsverfolgung beginnt, wird mit dem Untergang der sich dieser schändlichen Methode bedienenden Regime enden!</p>
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<p>Was für ein Unterschied zu den Aufrechten und Unbeugsamen, zu den wirklichen Menschen mit Zivilcourage, welche im Kampf für Wahrheit und Wahrhaftigkeit lieber Verfolgung und Gefängnis auf sich nehmen, als sich von einer Diktatur das Recht auf freie Meinungsäußerung nehmen zu lassen und das Recht, das als zweifelhaft und unglaubwürdig zu bezeichnen, was sie nun einmal für zweifelhaft und unglaubwürdig halten. Denn der, welcher unter Zwangsglaubensverordnung durch eine Diktatur das nicht offen als unwahr bezeichnen darf, was er aus innerster Überzeugung für unwahr hält, er wird nur umso überzeugter darin, daß es sich dabei eben gerade deshalb um eine Unwahrheit handeln muß.</p>
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<p>Wenn es eine Lehre aus der Geschichte gibt, so ist es diese: Ein Regime, das keine Meinungsfreiheit Andersdenkender aushält und das Menschen wegen ihm mißliebiger Meinungsäußerungen wie Schwerverbrecher verfolgt, das lügt und betrügt schon allein dadurch und ist dem Untergang geweiht — dann, wenn die Menschen sich nicht mehr bevormunden lassen und die Wahrhaftigkeit des freien Wortes den Terror der Zensur durchbricht!</p>
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<p>Und schon immer, ohne Ausnahme, wurden die Täter der Meinungsverfolgung — der Verfolgung der geäußerten Ansichten anderer Menschen (!) — später als der übelste Abschaum und die verabscheuungswürdigsten Kreaturen des Menschengeschlechts betrachtet. Deren Opfer aber als Märtyrer und Vorbilder verehrt. Noch nie in der Geschichte war es der Fall, daß das Verbrechen der Meinungsverfolgung nach dem Zusammenbruch der betreffenden Regime gerechtfertigt und deren Opfer verdammt wurden. Auch nach dem Zusammenbruch der BRD und der Größten Lüge der Menschheitsgeschichte wird das nicht anders sein. Im Gegenteil, dann werden die heutigen Kämpfer der Wahrhaftigkeit, die Kämpfer für das Recht auf freie Rede in Wort und Schrift im gleichen Maße geehrt und geadelt werden, wie sie heute unter dem Verbrechen und den Verbrechern der Meinungsverfolgung zu leiden haben.</p>
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<p><b>Gerhard Ittner</b></p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">GRUSSWORT VON GERARD MENUHIN</span></h3>
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<p>Es ist eine Ehre für mich, hier und heute in Form eines Grußwortes etwas sagen zu dürfen. Hier in Dresden, einem erschütternden Symbol der Kriegsverbrechen gegen Deutschland und das Deutsche Volk.</p>
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<p>Es scheint dem System der Umerziehung und seiner Lügenpresse ungemein wichtig zu sein, die Zahl der Toten von Dresden auf 24.000 herunterzuspielen. Dies, obwohl Adenauer gesagt hatte:</p>
<blockquote><p>„<i>Der Angriff auf die mit Flüchtlingen überfüllte Stadt Dresden am 13.2.1945 forderte allein etwa 250.000 Tote.</i>“</p></blockquote>
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<p>Und die Stadt Dresden führte vor dem Herunterlügen der Opferzahl in einem Schreiben aus:</p>
<blockquote><p>„<i>Gesicherten Angaben der Dresdner Ordnungspolizei zufolge wurden bis zum 20.3.1945 202.040 Tote geborgen, überwiegend Frauen und Kinder. Davon konnten nur etwa 30% identifiziert werden. Einschließlich der Vermißten dürfte eine Zahl von 250.000 bis 300.000 Opfern realistisch sein …</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/hamburg-496.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-large wp-image-2923 aligncenter" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/hamburg-496.jpg?w=500" alt="Hamburg 496" width="500" height="354" /></a></p>
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<p>Aber es geht mir jetzt nicht darum, über Einzelheiten dieses wahrhaftig unleugbaren Holocaust zu sprechen, sondern ich möchte einige Gedanken über die tieferen Zusammenhänge des Geschehens und über unsere Zukunft äußern.</p>
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<p>Der Bürger darf nicht erwarten, dass er durch die Politik wahrheitsgemäß unterrichtet, hilfreich beraten und gerettet wird. Er muß selber Lösungen finden und sich um die Wahrheit bemühen. Um passende Lösungen zu finden, muß er sich eine fundamentale Frage stellen. Und hier geht es nicht um politische Zugehörigkeiten wie Links oder Rechts – das sind künstliche Begriffe –, sondern hier geht es um zwei einander entgegenstehende elementare Prinzipien: Man muß sich entweder für die Lüge oder für die Wahrheit entscheiden!</p>
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<p>Die Politik, die Medien, das ganze gesteuerte System, sie haben längst entschieden, wofür sie stehen. Nun muß der einzelne Bürger dieselbe Entscheidung für sich treffen. Nur dieser selber kann über sich wissen, wo er steht und stehen will.</p>
<p>Derjenige, der sich vielleicht aus Gründen finanziellen Vorteils für die Lüge entscheidet, hat bestimmt einen einfacheren Weg gewählt. Indem er den Kopf in den Sand steckt, muß er sich um nichts kümmern. Die Änderungen, die gegenwärtig immer schneller geschehen: der sogenannte Terrorismus, die Masseneinwanderung, die Arbeitslosigkeit, die sinkenden Renten, die Auslandseinsätze der schrumpfenden Bundeswehr, die überforderte Polizei usw. – all das geht an ihm vorbei. Doch irgendwann wird er selbst betroffen sein — sei es seine Kündigung oder ein Überfall an der Bushaltestelle. Bis dahin aber macht er es sich in seinem Kokon der Unwissenheit bequem. Er hat die Tür zum Lernen zugemacht.</p>
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<p>Derjenige, der sich für die Wahrheit entscheidet, hat hingegen einen steinigen Weg gewählt. Zwar wurde er erzogen, die Wahrheit zu respektieren, aber dabei ging es meistens um Kleinigkeiten und nicht um den Sinn seines Lebens und um die Zukunft seines Volkes. Um wissentlich die Wahrheit zu unterstützen, muß der Mensch die häßliche Fratze der Lüge in allen Bereichen erkennen und bekämpfen. Er muß verantwortungsvoll agieren. Das heißt, ständig mutig aber bescheiden zu sein, verankert zu sein in seiner inneren Sicherheit, stets für die Sache zu ringen und nicht für sich. Es heißt, den richtigen Weg zu gehen und dabei das Zweifeln nicht zu verlernen hinsichtlich der Dinge, die zweifelhaft sind, ohne aber dabei an sich selber zu verzweifeln. Und um nicht an sich selber zu verzweifeln, ist es für jeden einzelnen wichtig, kritisch zu hinterfragen, ob er alles, was wahrhaftig in seinem Land historisch vorgekommen ist, richtig verstanden hat oder ob er nur das übernimmt, wie es die “<i>offizielle Version</i>” darstellt. Den Weg der Wahrheit zu gehen, heißt, alles zu hinterfragen. Es bedeutet, sich nie mit der ersten einfachen Antwort zu begnügen. Dadurch wird die Tür zum Lernen und zum Erkennen geöffnet.</p>
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<p>Was aber heißt lernen? Es heißt vor allem auch zu erkennen, wenn man sich irrt. Am meisten lernt man, wenn man ruhig liest oder schweigend zuhört; am wenigsten lernt man, wenn man sich in das lärmende Gerangel der Internetkommentare einläßt. Hier verschwendet man nur Zeit unter belanglosen Menschen, die nichts wissen, aber darauf bestehen, ihr Nichtwissen mit anderen zu teilen und dieses zu verteidigen, ja, es ihnen regelrecht aufzudrängen. Es ist ein Kampf des Geschreis unter Tauben, aber solchen Tauben, die hören könnten, aber die nicht hören wollen. Es ist ähnlich wie das blödsinnige Geschrei der Antifa, das nicht nur darauf abzielt, den Gegner niederzubrüllen, sondern das den Schreihälsen vor allem auch dazu dient, durch ihr käufliches Geschrei und Randalieren nicht selber denken zu müssen.</p>
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<p>Wir müssen keine „<i>Rassisten</i>“ sein, um den uralten Feind der Wahrheit als ewigen Lügner zu erkennen und entgegenzutreten. Steinalt ist dieser Begriff. Jesus Christus sagte es selbst. Ja, freilich, selbstverständlich ist es den Lügnern in einer Lebensumwelt der Wahrheit unbequem. Deshalb versuchen sie ihre Welt der Lügen aufrechtzuerhalten und mit immer weiteren Lügen auszubauen. Es ist eine „<i>post-faktische Welt</i>“, die versucht, allen Menschen die Lüge aufzuzwingen, um das Licht der Wahrheit für immer zum Erlöschen zu bringen.</p>
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<p>Dieses Erschaffen einer Welt der Lüge gegen die Wahrheit geht einher mit der Destabilisierung von Ländern, die Regierungen haben, welche der Welt der Lüge mißliebig sind. Es geht einher mit dem Ansichreißen der Bodenschätze dieser Länder. Es geht einher mit dem Aufhetzen der Religionen gegeneinander. Es geht einher mit dem Zersetzen unserer Tradition, unseres Bildungswesens, unserer Sprache. Es geht einher mit der Zersetzung von allem, was unsere Kultur ausmacht. Sie wird zersetzt und ersetzt durch einen überall gleichen Einheitsbrei des Billigen, der Unkultur – auf der ganzen Welt dasselbe, ohne Unterschied und ohne eigenen Charakter: oberflächlich, leer, gesichtslos und vor allem seelenlos. Denn die Welt der Lüge ist eine Welt ohne Seele. Es ist eine Welt, in der die Unsicherheit uneingeschränkt herrscht.</p>
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<p>Ich plädiere also für die Wahrheit. Wenn einer die Wahrheit sagt, dann muß er sich an nichts erinnern, sagte Mark Twain.</p>
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<p>Stellen wir uns ein Gebäude vor: einen Stein auf Stein von Handwerkern gebauten Turm, mit einem starken Fundament. Das soll unsere gesellschaftliche Struktur sein. Darin kann man vertrauenswürdige Geschäfte machen und glaubwürdige Versprechen tauschen. Im Gegensatz zu der schlampig errichteten Bruchbude, die ständig das Flicken braucht, um nicht in sich zusammenzufallen. So soll auch unser Leben keine Aneinanderreihung von Schachereien und Machenschaften sein, sondern eine Harmonie von gut erwogenen Entscheidungen, bei denen keiner übervorteilt wird und keiner sich ausgenutzt fühlen muß.</p>
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<p>Wie sind diese Gedanken im Wahljahr 2017 zu gebrauchen? Die derzeitige Kanzlerin ist mit den Kanzlern der Weimarer Republik zu vergleichen. Wie jene damals, so arbeitet diese armselige Herrin auch heute für den Feind, für die Welt der Lüge und der Lügner, für die Erfinder des Versailler „<i>Friedensvertrags</i>“.</p>
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<p>Keine Regierung, keine Koalition der Parteien der BRD hat dem Deutschen Volk Lösungen anzubieten. — Ich sage absichtlich nicht „<i>Lösungen für Deutschland</i>“, da ein solches Land heute in der Zeit der aufgelösten Grenzen und der invasionsartigen Wanderbewegungen Volksfremder offensichtlich nicht mehr existiert.</p>
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<p>Per Wahlentscheid abzustimmen über mehr oder minder lügnerischen Parteien, bringt nichts. Keine angeblich demokratische politische parlamentarische Partei wird Antworten finden, oder finden wollen. Antworten, die dem Volk zusagen und seinen Interessen dienen. Kurz gesagt: dadurch, daß die Regierung die im Grundgesetz geschriebenen Regeln nicht mehr befolgt, hat sich die Regierung selbst zum Gesetzlosen ernannt. Die Regierung ignoriert das Deutsche Volk und dessen Interessen. Sie hat ihm den Rücken gekehrt. Also muß das Deutsche Volk der Regierung ebenfalls den Rücken kehren.</p>
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<p>Das Verräterische liegt im Wort „<i>Regierung“</i>. Genau wie sich jeder einzelne zwischen der Lüge und der Wahrheit entscheiden muß, sind die Begriffe „<i>Volk</i>“ und „<i>Regierung</i>“ voneinander abzugrenzen. Kein verantwortungsvolles Volk braucht von einer Regierung beherrscht zu werden. Es mag eine Verwaltung brauchen, aber keine selbstherrliche, eigennützige und, wie es heute der Fall ist, volksfremden Interessen verpflichtete Regierung als Fremdherrschaft.</p>
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<p>Schon vor der Erfindung der EU sind Regierungen immer untereinander verbandelt und bei Bedarf gegen ihre eigenen Völker ausgerichtet gewesen. Doch noch nie war die Volksfeindschaft der Regierenden so ausgeprägt und so deutlich wie heute.</p>
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<p>Je mehr sich die Menschen gegeneinander ausspielen lassen, desto besser gelingt es der Regierung, sie zu verunsichern und zu manipulieren. Deutsche, laßt Euch also nicht gegeneinander ausspielen. Seid ein Volk – ein Deutsches Volk!</p>
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<p>Wenn es eine Rettung gibt, dann muß sie vom Volke selber kommen. Sie muß kommen von vertrauenswürdigen Menschen aus dem Volk. Menschen, die sich nicht wie die heutigen Politiker gegen das eigene Volk richten, sondern die das eigene Volk und seine Interessen über alles stellen. Menschen, die bei allen Unterschieden in den Meinungen und Ansichten dem Fundament einer echten, einer wahrhaft deutschen Kultur treu bleiben.</p>
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<p>Diese Menschen der Wahrheit und Wahrhaftigkeit müssen eine Bewegung ins Leben rufen, die nicht von Lügnern unterwandert werden kann. Eine Bewegung, welche auf alle Deutschen abzielt, auf das ganze Deutsche Volk. Eine Bewegung, die alle Deutschen vereinen kann. In der Welt der Wahrheit geht es nicht um eine Politik, die nur ein Zirkus der Pfründe- und Pensionsbeschaffung für eine Clique weitab vom Volke ist und die deshalb zur Welt der Lüge gehört. Nein, in der Welt der Wahrheit und der Wahrhaftigkeit geht es um das Überleben eines Volkes mit einer zweitausendjährigen Geschichte — es geht um das Überleben des Deutschen Volkes.</p>
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<p>Deshalb, wenn Ihr heute hier der Toten des Völkermordverbrechens, des Holocausts von Dresden gedenkt, dann gebt diesen Toten ein Versprechen. Gebt ihnen das Versprechen, daß ihr niemals zulassen werdet, daß das Deutsche Volk jetzt kaputtgemacht werden soll von der Welt der Lüge; daß es kaputtgemacht und ausgelöscht werden soll durch einen Überfremdungskrieg und kaputtgemacht und abgeschafft durch eine kriminelle Politik des Volksverrats.</p>
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<p><strong>DEUTSCHE, HOLT EUCH EUER DEUTSCHES LAND ZURÜCK!</strong></p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">GRUSSWORT VON DR. FREDRICK TÖBEN</span></h3>
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<p>Liebe Landsleute,</p>
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<p>Wie gerne würde ich heute mit Euch unserer deutschen Opfer in Dresden und zugleich aller deutschen Opfern gedenken, aber mein Haftbefehl wegen sogenannter Holocaustleugnung würde sofort wieder aktiviert, sollte ich europäischen Boden betreten.</p>
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<p>Mir scheint jedoch die Zeit rückt näher, daß wir Deutsche das jahrzehntelang aufgezwungene Joch der Vorwürfe ewiger Schuld abwerfen werden und wir uns dem unterdrückten Schmerz der Trauer um unsere Eltern und Großeltern bewußt werden und sie nicht mehr verneinen. Somit erkennen und ehren wir das schreckliche Opfer unserer verstorbenen, unserer ermordeten Landsleute.</p>
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<p><b>Fredrick Töben</b></p>
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<p>Es gibt kein schlimmeres Justizverbrechen als das Verbrechen, Menschen dafür zu verfolgen, weil sie Meinungen vertreten, die einem herrschenden Regime nicht passen und welche insbesondere den finanziellen und politischen Interessen jener nicht passen, welche dieses Regime beherrschen. Und noch nie in der Geschichte gab es auf deutschem Boden eine derart jede Verhältnismäßigkeit verloren habende und derart vom rasenden Haß auf den Andersdenkenden geprägte Meinungsverfolgung wie heute in der BRD. Einer den Rückhalt im Deutschen Volk immer mehr verlierenden Staatssimulation ohne eigene Staatsangehörigkeit und ohne sich vom Deutschen Volk in freier Selbstbestimmung gegebenen Verfassung.</p>
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<p>Eindrücklich belegt ist die erschütternde Ausprägung des Justizverbrechens der Meinungsverfolgung durch die heutige gegen die Interessen Deutschlands und des Deutschen Volkes gerichtete Fremdherrschaft der BRD auch dadurch, daß ich als NICHTSTAATSANGEHÖRIGER(!) der BRD von diesem Regime unter vorsatzkrimineller FALSCHDEKLARATION mit einer nicht zutreffenden Staatsangehörigkeitsangabe und auch noch OHNE AUSWEISDOKUMENTE(!) gewaltsam per MENSCHENRAUB(!) aus dem Ausland in seine Diktatur verschleppt wurde, wo ich nun als Nichtstaatsangehöriger der BRD ohne Ausweisdokumente und mittellos unfreiwillig festsitze und gezwungenermaßen nicht mehr weg kann. Und dieses Justizverbrechen wurde einzig und allein wegen völlig gewaltloser dissidenter Meinungsäußerungen begangen, die zum Zeitpunkt meiner Verschleppung aus dem Ausland bereits neun Jahre und länger zurücklagen! — Dieser wahnhaft besessene, brennende Haß auf den Andersdenkenden und diese absolute justizielle Unverhältnismäßigkeit sind ohne Beispiel nicht nur in der deutschen, sondern in der Weltgeschichte. Im Zuge eines regelrechten Überfremdungskrieges gegen das Deutsche Volk unter Bruch sämtlicher Asylrechtsvereinbarungen aus sicheren Drittstaaten illegal ins Land der Deutschen — und niemandes sonst! — einflutende, viel zu oft schwerst kriminelle volksfremde Invasoren hingegen kommen selbst bei schlimmsten von ihnen begangenen Gewaltverbrechen, für Vergewaltigungsterror an deutschen Frauen und Mädchen, für Mord und Totschlag und Raub an Deutschen, oft genug straffrei oder mit minimalsten Strafen davon. Und vor allem werden diese Straftaten Volksfremder vom selben Regime mit allen Mitteln vertuscht und verschwiegen und häufig gar nicht erst verfolgt, welches ihm mißliebige kritische Meinungsäußerungen aus dem immer unfaßbarer werden Unerträglichkeiten unterworfenen Deutschen Volk als gnadenlos zu bestrafende Schwerverbrechen ahndet. — Dem Deutschen Volk wird deshalb BALD DER KRAGEN PLATZEN!</p>
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<p>DEUTSCHES VOLK, STEH AUF — HOL´ DIR DEIN DEUTSCHES LAND ZURÜCK!</p>
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<p>DU ALLEIN BIST DER SOUVERÄN!</p>
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<p>JEDER DEUTSCHE FÜR SICH IN FREIER SELBSTBESTIMMUNG: SAG NEIN ZUR STAATSSIMULATION DER BRD, SIE DARF DICH NICHT GEWALTSAM GEGEN DEINEN WILLEN ALS IHR EIGENTUM BESCHLAGNAHMEN UND BEHANDELN!</p>
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<p>DEUTSCHES VOLK: MACH´ SCHLUSS MIT DER FREMDHERRSCHAFT UND DEIN DEUTSCHES REICH WIEDER HANDLUNGSFÄHIG!</p>
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<p>ZUVERSICHT, DEUTSCHE MÄNNER UND FRAUEN:</p>
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<p>DIE BRD WIRD UNTERGEH´N — DAS DEUTSCHE REICH WIRD AUFERSTEH´N!</p>
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<p><b>Gerhard Ittner </b></p>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Greetings From</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Dresden</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">February, 2017</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">INTRODUCTION</span></h3>
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<p>The war crimes and genocidal destruction of Dresden in February 1945, is symbolic for the genocide of the Germans from the still occupied eastern territories of our German Reich.  Dresden is a shattering symbol of the Holocaust on the German people. The extermination war, which had been planned long ago against the German Reich and the people, did not end in 1945, but has since then been continued and amplified through other means.</p>
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<p>On the 11th of February 2017 in Dresden the licensed memorial of the Holocaust on the German people in general and the genocidal crime of Dresden in particular was held by Gerhard Ittner. The reference to the attempts to abolish Germany and the German people was made today.</p>
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<p>Speakers were the dissidents and regime critics <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong>, <strong>Bernhard Schaub</strong>, <strong>Sylvia Stolz</strong>, <strong>Henry Portmayer</strong>, <strong>Dagmar Brenne</strong>, <strong>Reza Begi</strong>, <strong>Valentin Heciak</strong>, <strong>Valeri Killer</strong> and <strong>Hartmut Wostupatsch</strong>.</p>
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<p>In the following, the words of the greetings from <strong>GERARD MENUHIN</strong> and <strong>Dr. FREDRICK TÖBEN</strong>, read to you, in their absence, on this occasion in Dresden. Both are fearless fighters for truth against a mafia of intimidation and the arbitrary abuse of power, which tries to maintain their own interests by using increasingly oppressive thought suppression and judicial terror against dissidents and thought criminals. But in the end, this will be futile — for, with the prohibition of opinion and the persecution of opinion, history has never been maintained in the long term, which alone has awakened the urgent suspicion of not being a truth, since it requires the prohibition of opinion and the persecution of opinion And does not manage without these most abominable methods of a dictatorship, does not dare to face the conditions of freedom of expression and open discussion, as well as of critical examination. This probably in the knowledge of not being able to withstand these conditions. But what begins with the crime of opinion-persecution will end with the fall of the regimes which use this shameful method!</p>
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<p>What a difference to the upright and non-submissive, to the real people with civil courage, who, in their struggle for truth and truthfulness, prefer to suffer persecution and imprisonment rather than accept the loss of freedom of expression from a dictatorship, and the right, to declare as dubious and unbelievable, that which they consider to be doubtful and unbelievable.</p>
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<p>For he, who has a belief rammed down his throat by a dictatorship and prohibited by law from resisting, even though he knows it is untrue, becomes even more convinced, resolute and determined that it is untrue.</p>
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<p>If there is one lesson from history, it is this: a regime which can not endure the freedom of expression of other opinions and persecutes people as major criminal offenders for their interpretation of opinions, is lying and deceiving for this reason alone, and therefor doomed for destruction the moment people break through this barrier of mandatory belief and censorship terror.</p>
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<p>And always, without exception, the perpetrators of persecution — the persecution of the expressed views of other people (!) — were later considered as the worst scum and the most despicable creatures of the human race. But their victims were venerated as martyrs and role models.</p>
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<p>It has never been the case in history that the crimes of opinion were justified after the collapse of the regimes concerned and their victims were condemned. Even after the collapse of the FRG and the biggest lie in the history of mankind, this will not be otherwise. On the contrary, today’s fighters of truthfulness, the fighters for the right to free speech in word and script will be honoured and ennobled to the same extent as they are today suffering from the crimes and the criminals of opinion persecution.</p>
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<p><b>Gerhard Ittner</b></p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">GREETING FROM GERARD MENUHIN</span></h3>
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<p>It is an honour for me to be able to say something here and now in the form of a greeting. Here in Dresden, a deeply shocking symbol of war crimes against Germany and the German people.</p>
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<p>It seems to be extremely important for the system of re-education and its lying press (Fake news) to play down the number of deaths from Dresden to <span style="color:#0000ff;">24,000</span>. This, although Adenauer had said:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>The attack on the city of Dresden, which was overcrowded with refugees on 13 February 1945, alone claimed about <span style="color:#ff0000;">250,000</span> dead.</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Before the victim numbers were reduced through lies, the city of Dresden wrote in a report:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>According to the Dresden police, up until Mar 20, 1945, <span style="color:#ff0000;">202,040</span> dead have been recovered. Most of these were women and children. Only about 30% could be identified. Including the missing a more realistic count of victims would be between <span style="color:#ff0000;">250,000 to 300,000 &#8230;</span></i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>But I am not concerned now with the details of this truly undeniable Holocaust, but I would like to express some thoughts on the deeper connections and implications of events and our future.</p>
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<p>The citizen must not expect to be truthfully informed, helpfully advised, and saved through politics. He must find solutions and strive for the truth. In order to find suitable solutions, he must ask himself a fundamental question. And this is not about political affiliations such as left or right — these are artificial concepts — but here we are dealing with two mutually contradictory elementary principles: one must decide either for the lie or for the truth!</p>
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<p>The politics, the media, the whole controlled system, they have long ago decided what they stand for. Now the individual citizen must make the same decision for himself. Only he himself can know where he stands and wants to stand.</p>
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<p>The one who decides for the lie, perhaps for the sake of financial advantage, has certainly chosen a simpler way. Putting his head in the sand, he does not have to worry about anything. The changes, which are currently happening at at an accelerating rate: the so-called terrorism, mass immigration, unemployment, declining pensions, the overseas operations of the shrinking Bundeswehr, the overstressed police, etc. — he is oblivious to all this. But at some point he will be affected — be it his dismissal from work, or an attack at the bus stop. Until then, however, he makes himself comfortable in his cocoon of ignorance. He has closed the door to learning.</p>
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<p>He who chooses the truth, on the other hand, has chosen a stony path. Although he was educated to respect the truth, it was mostly about trifles and not the meaning of his life and the future of his people. In order to knowingly support the truth, man must recognize and fight the ugly face of lies in all areas. He must act responsibly. That is, to be constantly courageous but modest, and to be anchored in ones own inner security, always prepared to fight for the cause and not for himself. That is, to go the right way, and not to unlearn to be sceptical about the things which are doubtful, but without falling into despair. And in order not to fall into despair, it is important for each individual to critically question whether he has a proper understanding of what the true history of his country is, or if he only accepts what the “<i>official version</i>” is.</p>
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<p>To go the path of truth is to question everything. It means never to be satisfied with the first simple answer. This opens the door to learning and understanding.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what does learning mean? It is above all also to recognize, if one is mistaken. The best way to learn is to read patiently or to listen quietly; The least is learned when one engages in the noise of the Internet commentaries. Here, only time is wasted among uninformed people who know nothing while insisting on sharing their ignorance with others and defending it, indeed, to thoroughly impose it on them. It is a struggle of the clamour among the deaf, ones that could hear, but who choose not to listen. It is similar to the foolish shouting of the Antifa, which is not only aimed at sullying and shouting down the opponent, but also for the screaming rowdies not to have to activate their own brains and think for themselves.</p>
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<p>We don’t have to be “<i>racists</i>” to recognize and oppose the ancient enemy of truth as an eternal liar. Ancient is the term. Jesus Christ said it himself. Yes, of course, it is uncomfortable for the liars in a living environment of truth. Therefore, they try to maintain their world of lies and expand with ever more lies. It is a “<i>post-factual world</i>” that tries to impose a lie on all people in order to extinguish the light of truth forever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This creation of a world of lies against truth goes hand in hand with the destabilization of countries which have governments that are unfaithful to the world of lies. It goes hand in hand with the theft of the natural resources of these countries. It goes hand in hand with the incitement of religions against each other. It goes hand in hand with the subversion and destruction of our tradition, our education, our language. It goes hand in hand with the destruction of everything that makes up our culture. It is destroyed and replaced by a homogeneous sludge of a unified culture of cheapness, of uncivilized culture-without distinction or without character-superficial, empty, faceless, and, above all, soulless. For the world of lies is a world without a soul. It is a world in which uncertainty prevails without restrictions.</p>
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<p>So I plead for the truth. If someone tells the truth, then he does not have to remember anything, Mark Twain said.</p>
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<p>Imagine a building: stone built on stone by craftsmen, with a strong foundation. This is supposed to be our social structure. In this way one can make trustworthy business and exchange credible promises. In contrast to the sloppily erected building, which constantly needs to be patched so as not to collapse into itself. Thus, our life is not to be a combination of haggling and machinations, but a harmony of well-considered decisions, in which no one is cheated, and no one has to feel taken advantage of.</p>
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<p>How are these ideas to be seen in the 2017 election year? The current chancellor can be compared with the Chancellors of the Weimar Republic. Like those then, this poor mistress still works today for the enemy, for the world of lies and liars, for the inventors of the Versailles “<i>peace treaty</i>”.</p>
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<p>No government, no coalition of the parties of the FRG has to offer the German people solutions. — I am not purposely saying “<i>solutions for Germany</i>”, since such a country today does not exist any longer in the time of dissolved borders and the invasion-like migratory movements.</p>
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<p>Voting to elect more or less liar parties, gets us nowhere. No supposedly democratic political parliamentary party will find any answers, or even wants to. Answers that appeal to the people and serve their interests. In short, because the government no longer complies with the rules laid down in the Basic Law, the government has itself appointed itself to be a lawless one. The government ignores the German people and their interests. It has turned its back on them. So the German people must also turn their backs on the government.</p>
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<p>The treason lies in the word “<i>government</i>”. Just as each individual must decide between the lie and the truth, the terms “<i>people</i>” and “<i>government</i>” are separated from one another. No responsible people need to be ruled by a government. They may need an administration, but not an autocratic, selfish, and, as is the case today, representing foreign interests as an alien government.</p>
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<p>Even before the invention of the EU, governments have always been interrelated and, if necessary, directed against their own peoples. Never before, however, was the national antagonism of the rulers so pronounced and so clear as today.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The more people can be played off against each other, the better the government succeeds in undermining and manipulating them. Germans, do not let them play you off against each other. Be a nation — a German nation!</p>
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<p>If there is a salvation, it must come from the people themselves. It must come from trustworthy people from the people. People who do not oppose their own people like today’s politicians but who place their own people and their interests above all else. People who remain faithful to the foundation of a real, true culture, regardless of their differences in opinions and ideas.</p>
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<p>These people of truth and truthfulness must create a movement that can not be subverted by liars. A movement directed to all Germans, to the whole German people. A movement that can unite all Germans. In the world of truth, it is not a question of a policy which is only a circus of benefits and pensions for a clique so far away from the people and therefore belonging to the world of lies. No, in the world of truth and truthfulness, it is about the survival of a people with a two-thousand-year history — it is about the survival of the German people.</p>
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<p>Therefore, if you commemorate today the dead of the genocide crime, the Holocaust of Dresden, give these dead a promise. Give them the promise that you will never allow the German people to be destroyed by the world of lies; that it should be destroyed by an invasion, and destroyed and abolished by a criminal policy of high treason.</p>
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<p><strong>GERMANS, GET YOUR GERMAN LAND BACK!</strong></p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">GREETING FROM DR. FREDRICK TÖBEN</span></h3>
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<p>My dear fellow Germans,</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How dearly I would love to commemorate with you today, our German victims in Dresden and at the same time, all German victims, but my arrest warrant for so-called Holocaust denial would be activated again if I stepped on European soil.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, for me it appears that the time is very near that the Germans will throw the decades of imposed eternal guilt off, and become fully conscious of the suppressed sorrow and mourning for the suffering of our parents and grandparents and no longer deny this as we become aware of this. With that we recognize and honour the horrible suffering andsacrifices that our murdered fellow countrymen have made.</p>
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<p><b>Fredrick Töben</b></p>
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<p>Australia</p>
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<p>There is no worse crime than the crime of persecuting people because they represent opinions that do not fit into a ruling regime and which do not fit in particular with the financial and political interests of those who rule this regime. And never before in history had there been such a sense of expression, which had lost all proportionality, and was so marked by the raging hatred of other people, as it does today in the FRG. A state stimulus, which loses all its support in the German people, without its own nationality, and without a constitution given by the German people in free self-determination.</p>
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<p>I am impressed by the fact that, as a non-governmental (!) Of the FRG, I am under the pretext of criminal deceit with a non-true nationality and also a Still WITHOUT IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS (!) Violently by MENSCHENRAUB (!) From abroad to his dictatorship, where I now as a non-nationals of the BRD without ID documents and destitiously involuntarily arrest and forcibly can not go away. And this crimes of justice were committed solely on the basis of completely nonviolent dissident opinions, which had already been nine years and longer at the time of my abduction from abroad. — This deliberately possessed, burning hatred on the other, and this absolute judicial disproportion, are, for example, not only in German history, but in world history.</p>
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<p>In the course of a regular over-foreigning war against the German people, under all breaches of asylum agreements from safe third countries illegally into the country of the Germans — and no one else! Influential, invasive, invasive, and often very criminal, invaders can be found in the worst cases of violent crimes committed against them, rape against German women and girls, murder and manslaughter and robbery of Germans, often impassive or with minimal penalties. Above all, these crimes are scolded and concealed by the same regime by all means, and are often not followed at all, which is suspected of critical criticisms of the German people, which are always inconceivable and intolerable, as merciless crimes to be punished.</p>
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<p>— The German people will therefore be THE PLACE OF GATHERING!</p>
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<p>ENGLISH PEOPLE, STAY UP — HAPPY BACK TO YOUR GERMAN LAND!</p>
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<p>YOU ALONE ARE SOVEREIGN!</p>
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<p>EVERYTHING FOR YOURSELVES IN FREE SELF-DESTRUCTION: SAY NO TO THE STATE SUSPENSION OF THE FRG, YOU SHOULD NOT BE PROHIBITED AND TREATED FOR YOUR WILL THAN YOUR PROPERTY!</p>
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<p>ENGLISH PEOPLE: COMPLETE WITH THE EMPLOYMENT AND YOUR GERMAN EMPIRE AGAINST!</p>
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<p>REPORT, GERMAN MEN AND WOMEN:</p>
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<p>THE FRG WILL BE SUBJECT &#8211; THE GERMAN EMPIRE WILL RISE!</p>
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<p><b> Gerhard Ittner </b></p>
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<h3 style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>Version History</strong></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><b>Version 3</b>: Feb 25, 2017  — English translation of <b>Gerard Menuhin&#8217;s</b> and <b>Fredrick Töben&#8217;s </b>speech has been corrected (with thanks to Alfred Schaefer).</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><b>Version 2</b>: Feb 23, 2017  — English translation of <b>Gerhard Ittner&#8217;s</b> Introduction has been corrected (with thanks to Alfred Schaefer).</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><b>Version 1</b>: Feb 22, 2017  — Published post.</p>
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