Mark Collett: Hello everybody, and welcome to Book Club.

 

Now, it’s been a little while since the last book club, and that’s because we had Easter Sunday, and obviously we didn’t want to be streaming on Easter Sunday because everyone’s spending time with their family, etc. And it was a nice night off, but it delayed this particular episode. But we’re finally here, and we are live tonight on Odysee, DLive, Rumble and Entropy.

 

So you can find us in all of those good places. And tonight we are reviewing The Myth of German Villainy.

 

Now, this is the second edition, so I could only find this edition available in one place, and that’s directly from Money Tree Publishing. And we have Dave Gahary from Money Tree Publishing tonight to talk about the book, because the author has sadly passed away, so he’s going to be the representative discussing the book and discussing the things that have been added to it and why it’s an important book. So he’s taking the place of the author.

 

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And I think this is a really important stream, and it’s a really good book!

 

And I’m going to throw it over to Dave in a minute because I want him to give sort of the intro. We’re still waiting on Aunt Sally. She’s having a few computer problems, so she might be with us tonight. She might not be, but her computer’s running really slow, so we’ll see if she arrives.

 

But before we get into the book, I want to say something about this.

 

Now, we’ve reviewed, or this is the 31st book we’ve reviewed on Book Club. So we’ve reviewed, you know, 30 books up until this day. And we have reviewed other books that have dealt with the realities, the truths of the Second World War. And you might be thinking to yourself:

 

“Well, Mark, we’ve had a few reviews like this. We’ve covered a few books like this. Why would I want to read this book?”

 

And I’m going to start by saying, I read this book, and there were things in this book I didn’t know.

 

Now, I’m not saying that I am the best read or the most educated when it comes to the historical facts of the First and Second World War. But there were some pretty major things that cropped up in this book that I actually hadn’t heard about. And there was things that I had heard about. And this book allowed me to build on my knowledge and my sort of historical grasp of these events. So I found the book very interesting.

 

[03:07]

 

So if you’re coming into this thinking maybe:

 

“Well, this sounds really great, Mark. This is the kind of book I’d like to read. But what makes this book different from other books like this that you’ve reviewed in the past?”

 

I want to just get that out the way straight away that I enjoyed the book and I always knew I was going to like it. But I didn’t realise what an education it would be for someone like myself who’s been doing this, been in dissident politics for 24 years, who has had, you know, been at numerous meetings where people have talked about things such as revisionism, the Second World War, where there’s been multiple books on sale about the topics that are broached in this book, yet this book still brought new things to the table.

 

So I’m going to start by throwing it over to Dave. Dave is obviously the commander in chief over at Money Tree Publishing, and we always love having Dave on because he’s a very entertaining guy and he does his own show.

 

So basically, Dave, why don’t you plug your own show for a start and where we can find you? Tell us a bit about why the second edition was published, how you got the rights to doing the second edition, and a little bit about the author who sadly passed away. And then we’ll go around the group and we’ll give out our impressions.

 

Dave Gahary: Sure. Sure. Am I coming through loud and clear?

 

Mark Collett: As loud and as clear as a blackbird song in the morning. Absolutely perfect!

 

Dave Gahary: Lovely. We’ve got the mockingbirds down here in the Florida panhandle, and they sing throughout the day and night. So you could hear them at, you know, two, three in the morning, going wild. It’s lovely.

 

Yes, the book.

 

Now, when I was at American Free Press writing for them and the Barnes Review for about ten years, I remember hearing about the book when it first came out, and it just really struck a nerve with a lot of folks and struck a chord. And it was lauded. And I heard that. I had never read the first edition, but it was brought to my attention at a later date by Jim Rizzoli and Diane King, who, as you may be familiar with, they do the Hoaxbusters show over on our network Speak Free Radio, which you can access by going to speakfreeradio.com. And it’s a 24/7 Internet radio network.

 

And I guess it would probably make sense if it’s okay to read the quick note from the publisher that I put in there. Mark, if I could read that.

 

Mark Collett: Of course, my friend, you’ve got the floor, so please feel free to.

 

[06:02]

 

Dave Gahary: Thank you. It says:

 

“This book would not exist if not for the enthusiastic encouragement of Jim Rizzoli and Diane King, two true American patriots. Here’s the backstory after Jim heard a radio show with Benton Bradbury, and he’s the author, of course, on as a guest, Diane was able to get a hold of Ben’s contact information to set up an interview with Jim, which was done in January 2016. After the interview, Diane stayed in touch with Ben, and anytime a hurricane would sweep through the Jacksonville, Florida area, she would call to check on him. The last time she did, Ben informed her, probably in his characteristically matter of fact, no nonsense way, he had esophageal cancer and had about three months to live.”

 

“Seeking to preserve Benton Bradbury’s legacy after his unfortunate passing in 2019, and to give the book a larger audience, Jim and Diane suggested we contact Mister Bradbury’s family to speak with them about the future of the book. They were enthusiastic to keep the book in print, and this second edition, with some corrections and amplifications, is the final result.”

 

“Thank you to the heirs of this book and to Jim and Diane for entrusting us with this task to keep this most important work alive. We hope it meets with your approval.”

 

 

“And that’s it.

 

Mark Collett: Superb.

 

So how did you go about putting together the second edition, then?

 

And I think this fits very well in your library because obviously, we’ve had you on here before. We reviewed Hell Storm, and that was a, I mean, the package you put together for Hellstorm was some interesting, truly special.

 

I think it was one of the first book reviews we did with you, and that package was incredible! Because you guys really, really went out there with not only the fantastic printed edition, but also with the audiobooks and the documentary as well. I think this fits in well with the rest of your library.

 

Dave Gahary: Yes, absolutely! And we’re not going to be adding too many more parts to the library, for the simple reason that we just wanted to focus on what we consider to be the best examples of the particular topics that are being addressed.

 

So this book took, as most books take, a long time to copy edit. And Ben was a former US Navy pilot. He had served in the military for, I think about 30 years. It’s in the actual, About the Author.

 

Let me just quickly get that. Yeah. So he served from 55 to 77. Yeah, 32 years. I’m sorry, I can’t even add! 22 years in the US Navy. And he was born in 1937.

 

Of course, as I said, he passed in 2019.

 

So Ben wasn’t an historian. He was somebody who had visited Germany and was perturbed about what he witnessed up close and personal with the beautiful German people and what the poisonous media was spewing about the beautiful German people and their wonderful history.

 

And so that’s what spurred him on to write a book about this.

 

[10:13]

 

And as you mentioned in the intro, sadly, he has passed. And I, of course, am quite saddened by that because I know we would have hit it off, both being navy guys and both having an interest in this topic. So Ben, again, I wish I would have known the actual steps he went through, but he went through a process of reading a lot of books, as you could see in the bibliography. And he put together a manuscript and self published the book. And it was through another company that self published it wasn’t like money tree or even more traditional publishers. It was a publisher that said:

 

“Well, just give us your manuscript, and we’ll just make it into a book.”

 

So when I dig into a manuscript, or a book, I dig in like a copy editor and a proofreader. So I look at not just every page or every paragraph, every sentence or every word, but every character. And it takes quite a bit of time. Some would say that “analysis is paralysis”, but I can’t do it any other way. Just like if I’m reading a book, I always have a highlighter with me because I instinctively highlight stuff that I’m interested in or highlight errors. And then later, many times contact the author or the publisher and let them know, which they’re very much appreciative of.

 

So I was born with this attention to detail, and I put that to work in Ben’s book, The Myth of German Villainy, the first edition.

 

I think, because, you know, Ben wasn’t trained as an historian, or a writer there were some things that slipped through, some facts that weren’t facts, some quotes that were spurious, some material that needed, as I mentioned earlier, some amplification.

 

And so I went through the entire manuscript along those lines. And the structure of what he wrote is there. That’s not changed. But the errors, maybe the wrong dates or the wrong names, the wrong facts, they’ve all been removed. And some parts of the book that I felt needed to be expanded upon were expanded upon. And photographs and images were added. Whereas the first edition had just black and white photos, some of them not very clear. This edition has a lot of colour photos, and when the actual photo itself or image itself was not in colour, black and white.

 

Amazingly, and of course, I never would have thought it would have turned out this way. But the first edition and the second edition are almost the exact same number of pages! And for all the work that was done on it, that was surprising to me when I discovered that at the end.

 

But this has 171 images. So we offer, let me see if that’s offered in this book. It is.

 

So this book is offered in black and white and colour. And the black and white version has 171 black and white images. And the colour version, out of those 171 images, 123 are black and white, and 48 are a colour.

 

[14:21]

 

So I was very happy with how it turned out. It’s a project like this that goes on for three years. It’s kind of like birthing something, and you really don’t know until the end, at least I don’t, how it’s going to turn out. But I was very happy with the way that it turned out. And I’ve heard from a lot of folks stuff similar to what you said, Mark, that they knew a lot about this topic, but they learnt a lot from reading the book.

 

Mark Collett: Fantastic! Thank you, my friend.

 

Well, let’s go around the group.

 

We’ll start with you, Natty. Obviously, you’ve been here with the book club since the very beginning. What did you think of this book? Did you enjoy it? Give a bit of an overview, please.

 

Natty: Well, like you, in fact, I was looking at Hellstorm as you were giving your preface to the stream here. And this is a topic we do seem to cover a lot, but it’s evergreen, and there’s so much that feeds into us, and there’s a lot of stuff that’s going on in the world at the moment that makes this relevant.

 

And I would argue that World War One and then the lead into World War Two and everything that’s happened since the Second World War is one of the most pivotal moments in the civilisation of Europe and probably the world. And I know it’s easy to say that given that we’re living in a time that is controlled and has echoes of the decisions made then and the events that happen then, because we’re living through it now, but it really does feel monumental.

 

And the Second World War and the lead up to it and the aftermath of it, the immediate aftermath of it, without understanding it, you simply cannot have any logical or coherent narrative of the way the world is today. So revisiting this period in history, to me, is always interesting. And I echo what you said, and I’ve got it in my notes. There’s things in here that I didn’t know. And I’m less well read on this subject than you, to be honest, Mark.

 

But even then, it was a pleasure. Might be the wrong word, but it was a pleasure to read just for that simple reason.

 

Before we get into the heavy stuff, and I know we do this a lot on book club, and we’ve been chastised for it before, but the cover is just so fantastic! Because, …

 

[17:02]

 

Mark Collett: You know what, mate? I’m going to cut across you there. Not only is the cover fantastic, but it has loads of pictures in. And this book, it really commands your attention.

 

And I’m not saying that everything should be a picture book, but that cover made me want to read it. And what kept me going through a lot of it was when I was seeing actual illustrative proof of everything that the book was stating.

 

Natty: Yes, it makes it a much easier read.

 

And in fact, the cover which you can see in the thumbnail to the video, has this kind of long nosed, like, big chinned, be-monicled Nazi officer on it, right? And he’s standing in front of the famous train tracks that lead to Auschwitz.

 

And recently me and my fiance have taken, well, not her so much, me have taken great pleasure in watching films about the Nazis in the Second World War. You know, most of its trash. Some of its slightly more high class, like The Boy in the Striped Pajamas. Schindler’s List is obviously, is the most famous one, but there are tropes [chuckling] that come up in these films over and over again! And you could drink yourself silly playing drinking games, you know, jews raking the sand, barking dogs, Nazi officers screaming about:

 

“Show me your papers!”

 

You know, it’s the same thing in every film!

 

And as soon as I saw this, the cover for the book and this kind of be-monicled demonic old Nazi officer, I was like:

 

“Yeah, it’s very fitting.”

 

So I know there’s heavy stuff in here, but I thought I’d make a comment on that because I think it’s definitely relevant. And like you said, the pictures go along with everything that’s written here. Makes it very easy to get through.

 

Mark Collett: It certainly does.

 

Well, now we’re going to introduce Bill. Sadly tonight it’s Bill’s last Book Club. I thought I’d mention this now. We were going to mention at the end, but now’s as good a time as any. Bill is basically simply just doesn’t have time to do this anymore. And we’ve really enjoyed Bill’s input, and if everyone would like to say a big thank you to him, that would be wonderful!

 

But, Bill, this is your last Book Club. But what a Book Club to go out on, my friend. First, I’d like to thank you for all your hard work, and it has been a pleasure working with you over the years on this particular project. But what did you think of this book? And do you want to give a bit of an overview like Natty did?

 

[19:27]

 

Bill Atheling: Well, thank you, Mark, for your kind words. Yes, this book, when I read through it the last few weeks, it reminded me of my own period going through the so-called “red pill”, because mine feel like I come from – my sins – from an academic background and teaching. And I began close on to 20 years ago, starting to look at and ask questions effectively, and I became interested in different aspects of this particular period. I’d really like to echo what Natty, yourself said, Mark.

 

That period in time is the crux upon which the hammer of the future was hammered out. So it’s absolutely important! And I think for anybody who’s listening who’s not particularly interested or enamored with historical introspection, well, this is a good place to start to actually wake you up a little bit about it.

 

The thing about this period, of course, is that it’s the time when truth really died! And a complete revision, if you want to use that word, is made of historical facts and occurrences. What this book does, of course, is it lays it out in a very clear, concise, readable, accessible way. It’s not written in highfalutin academic style. It’s not written in a low brow style. It’s written in a way that you can read it, you can enjoy it, and you can engage with it presents a lot of facts, a lot of facts which have been erased or are pushed under the carpet.

 

So, yeah, it’s a very impressive piece of work. I agree about the aesthetics of it. The cover is very nice. I love the fact there were photographs and illustrations throughout, backing up everything that was being discussed as well. Very impressive piece of work! Yeah, that’s my initial summary, at least.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you, Bill. We’ve got Sally in tonight. I don’t know whether Sally can hear us. She’s been having computer problems. This will definitely be sorted for next time because she’s got a new computer, but she haven’t had time to set it up. So, Sally, if you can hear us, obviously, if you can’t, we’ll just continue on without you.

 

But if you can hear us, give us a brief overview of what you thought of the book.

 

Aunt Sally: Well, I can hear you, so please just say yes or no.

 

Mark Collett: We can hear you now. But yeah.

 

Aunt Sally: Can you hear me?

 

Mark Collett: Just about, yeah. There’s a little bit of a delay, I think.

 

Aunt Sally: Just quickly, in case I have to leave. Because of [words unclear] this is one of those books that’s up there with the greats that we’ve had. It’s a book I wish I’d had in my childhood in the sixties, because much of what I was being told didn’t make sense. It just didn’t make sense even to a child. You just didn’t ask. You didn’t ask because of everyone was war weary. My parents were war weary, even though my mum was a child during the war, but my dad just about got [words unclear]. Yeah, it’s one of the great books. I read it again with my mouth wide open at some of the things I didn’t [word unclear]. It’s a fantastic book and every boomer should read it, really. They should read it. Yeah, that’s it for now.

 

[23:22]

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you, Sally. I think it’s a really, really good book.

 

And one thing I want to say about this, and this is where I’m going to kick things off, I think this is important when you see, and I do like the cover I do like the cover. I think the cover is a good cover and we have bashed bad covers. But the cover gives kind of this misconception about the book, that it’s all going to be based around World War Two.

 

Now, the first thing I want to say about this book is its not all about World War Two. This actually goes into a huge amount of detail about other topics, about World War One and sort of the origins of these anti-German myths. And some of the information within it, as I said, is stuff that I didn’t actually know.

 

And I’ll read something from the beginning of chapter three, because this really jumped out to me. I’ve actually got the book here in my hands and I’m just flying through this.

 

So this isn’t all just about National Socialist Germany. It isn’t all about the Second World War. It isn’t just sort of a rehashing of Germans did bad things and rounded up jews. There’s a lot of things here that I didn’t know and that give a greater context. Because obviously I know quite a bit about the Second World War. I know a little bit about the First World War, but I didn’t know this. And I’m reading directly from the book, and I quote:

 

“On December 12, 1916, two and a half years into the war, Germany made a peace offer to the Allies to end the war on a status quo ante basis. That is, no one wins and no one loses, no one pays reparations. Everyone just stops fighting and goes back home.”

 

“Germany had never wanted war in the first place. By that time, in the course of the war, Germany seemed on the verge of victory. Her submarine force had effectively stopped the supply convoys coming from America to Britain, creating critical shortages of all war material in Britain. France had already lost some 600,000 men in the battles of Verdun and the Somme, and the French soldiers were beginning to mutiny. The Italian army had collapsed completely, and Russian soldiers were deserting in droves and returning home. Germany appeared to be winning on both fronts, but the slaughter had been too great, and the British and French were unwilling to stop fighting short of victory.”

 

“The only way to justify the carnage and horrific loss of life was to fight on until victory could be obtained.”

 

“Moreover, as explained in the previous chapter, Britain had entered the war to destroy Germany as an industrial and commercial rival, and that remained her goal. British leaders were determined to find a way to break the stalemate and win the war. And they knew one sure-fire way of doing so was to bring America in on their side. A relentless effort was already underway to bring that about, but so far without success.”

 

[26:30]

 

And this goes into basically the jewish role in the First World War, which is very, very interesting indeed! But I didn’t know that when Germany were on top in the First World War that they had actually said:

 

“Look, we can win this, but there’s a huge loss of life here and we want peace, and we don’t want any more of our young men being slaughtered.”

 

And that, to me, was this sort of nugget of information that completely changed my perspective on the First World War and I’m sure would change the perspectives of many other people. And I hope those listening tonight will hear stuff like this and be like:

 

“Wow! That’s really interesting!”

 

Because I said I didn’t know that. And that’s something I drew from the book.

 

Now I’m going to throw this over to Dave first, and we’ll go around the group and talk about this. But Dave, when you put this together, have you had any similar feedback to that? Because this is a lot more of a broad topic than the usual sort of post Second World War, you know, revisionary material, which is all based around, really a couple of the larger concentration camps and based on whether they were actually concentration camps or death camps, and then disputing figures based on facts.

 

But this is a lot deeper than that, isn’t it?

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah, it is. And let me say that I too, of course, learnt tons from this book.

 

So it’s not like I went in and knew it all and said:

 

“Oh, let me find the errors and the misspellings and fix them all and make it better!”

 

No, I learnt a lot as well, and that was one of the parts that I really was not strong on, and I’m still not strong on it. I’m not, like you said, I’m not someone who knows everything about one topic. It’s virtually impossible to know that. But we can learn as much as we can, of course.

 

So, yeah, that was an important part of understanding the whole story about, or what we think might be the whole story about how Germany felt, the government of Germany felt at that time and what was happening, how they did appear to be on top.

 

And of course, that’s where the whole “stab in the back” comes in. Because how could it be that the Germans lost when they were winning on all fronts? Until, of course, the machinations that were occurring behind the scenes with that wildcard of what I call “organised international jewry”.

 

[29:16]

 

Mark Collett: Thank you.

 

Now, throwing this over to Bill. Bill is a very modest man, and he’s actually had a very high profile academic past. He’s a man who is very well read, and he’s a man who certainly knows his stuff. I’m going to throw this over to you, Bill. This book was Illuminating to me, and I’m not for one minute going to suggest I am as well read as you are.

 

But was there anything amongst this that sort of stood out and taught you something? And what did you think of the structure of the book? Because I think there is a misconception about these books, that they are just going to be sort of going over the well trodden ground.

 

And as I said this, for me, a lot of it was absolutely new ground. That was fascinating!

 

Bill Atheling: Yes, absolutely!

 

And I think the way that the book builds up to the main thesis, the discussion at its centre, is by, as you say, laying the groundwork and touching upon areas which are outside of the central part of the 20th century, the late 1930s, 20th century build-up, and absolutely pertinently relate to that culmination that occurred.

 

It’s a bizarre thing, you know, that you mentioned there about, and Dave mentions about the Germans were on the top of their game at certain points. And actually, both times, both the First and Second World War, Hitler did the same thing when he conquered France. He turned back to Britain and said:

 

“Look, I don’t want a war on this front. This isn’t what I’m about.”

 

Offered generous peace terms, even proposed defending the British Empire, and, you know, he was spurned.

 

So these are things which, when I first encountered them, I thought:

 

“Well, you know, this can’t be right.”

 

And when you start looking at the actual facts of it, it’s there in black and white. It’s there and it’s evidence. You know, I refer to someone like David Irving, who’s someone who have read quite, quite deeply. And he did this, you know, “heinous” thing amongst historians. Instead of going to other historians and quoting and referring to what they were saying, he actually went and looked at source documents and looked at the facts of the original from the period and presented those things. And it tells, it paints a completely different picture.

 

So I think that’s one of the significant things about this book and some of the books that are out there. But why this book particularly should be widely read, because it lays those grounds, those facts out.

 

And as I said earlier, these are some of the things which, when I first began to be reckoned were really important to me, was if there’s a fiction that’s being perpetuated here and that’s being blown out of the water, as is evidenced by this information, what else am I being told that isn’t true?

 

So it begins the whole process, and it’s like a flower opening and you see all the petals. Yeah. So just again, I mean, I don’t think there was anything specifically in this book that I thought:

 

“Oh, I didn’t know that!”

 

Only because I’ve had my nose in this topic for such a long time. But this book brings it all together in a very succinct and clear and concise way and presents it in a structured and deliberate ladder of information that you can follow to reach some kind of understanding of the events and truth.

 

[33:01]

 

 

Mark Collett: Thank you. Sally, if you’re still with us and you’re still able to hear us, you summed it up perfectly earlier, saying, if every boomer read this, it would have sort of changed the world. How much of this was new to you?

 

Aunt Sally: How much of it was new to me? Yeah, I’m here. A lot of [word unclear] was the propaganda that the war generation grew up. Sunday afternoon, there’d be a film on TV, a black and white film. And it was all about the concentration camps and the war and how noble the British were and how evil the Germans were. [words unclear] That’s actually what I would call the book, it’s the other side. The book is the title, because I wouldn’t buy that book if I saw it in the shop. [words unclear] It is the other side of the story, not just the other side to it. It’s why it happened, how things happened, and also the propaganda and deceit, which those [words unclear] what it was and what was going on. Although there were clues, and I would ask questions that they [words unclear] even by my own parents, because they needed to believe the lie, because they suffered.

 

So everybody was invested in perpetuating the myth of lies. They wanted to perpetuate that. So as a child, you were silenced. I hope you heard all that?

 

Mark Collett: We did. We did. Natty, again, you’re somebody who’s very well read. How much of this was sort of new to you? And which bits did you feel were the most Illuminating? Because for me, as I said, it was the sort of First World War was the bits which I didn’t really have full knowledge of, …

 

Natty: Yeah, well, the First World War, again, is this like massive conflagration, that had world changing impacts in the aftermath of it.

 

But again, it pales, given what happened in the Second World War, it’s become less important, especially given the direction of Western countries, Europe, the United States, Australia, South Africa. So less is said about it. But given what actually happened and the aftermath of the First World War, it’s certainly something that when you start saying to people:

 

“Well, if you really want to understand the modern world, you need to look at the Second World War.”

 

And for people in the know, they’ll say:

 

“Well, it’s earlier than that you know, it’s the First World War.”

 

And then, you know, someone will come along and say:

 

“No, no, no! It started with “X”, the expulsion of these people from this, …”

 

Yeah, whatever.

 

[36:29]

 

But the First World War certainly is pivotal. I’m going to read a part of the book here. That talks about the aftermath of the First World War. And Benton says this:

 

“The generalised belief was replaced by a feeling of pessimism and cynicism. There was a feeling that Europe had been profoundly and permanently damaged, a feeling that turned out to be highly pertinent. In retrospect, ancient empires, the Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman, Russian, and German, crumbled as a result of the war.”

 

And I’ll just add, myself, that I think the British Empire suffered because of the First World War:

 

“These empires had been a source of political and social stability, and now chaos reigned throughout Europe. The Paris Peace Conference, after the war, did a very imperfect job of putting it back together again.”

 

“It is clear from the perspective of today that World War One precipitated an irreversible decline in Western civilisation.”

 

So these great empires and great nations of Europe and the control of parts of the world were stable.

 

And then all of a sudden, this kind of mass hysteria, mass propaganda, happens, and we end up killing each other in the millions on what’s known as an industrial scale slaughter, artillery shells and machine guns and gas and all the rest of it. And in the wake of that, the continent is devastated! And what follows from it is all these social changes and all this chaos.

 

I mean, there’s a chapter in here about the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, which is a story into itself. But all of this leads into the Second World War, which probably cements the changes that were on the cards during the First World War. And obviously, this book goes into post Second World War, which is also covered in Hellstorm.

 

And, I mean, there are other books that cover other areas of, you know, expand on things that are chaptered in this book. Like I said, the Bolshevik Revolution. You could read the Gulag Archipelago, maybe, for that. Hellstorm covers the retreat of the Germans from Russia in the east and what happened to the Germans after the war in a little bit more detail. And a lot of, like Bill said, David Irving covers a lot of Hitler and what the Nazi high command was doing at the time.

 

But this book is fantastic! It gives a great overview of things that led up to the First World War all the way through and things that were happening and decisions that were being made that fed into everything that resulted from that conflict.

 

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Mark Collett: Now, looking over this book and having enjoyed it so much, I think the book essentially stitches together a lot of pieces of history, because people often talk about the First World War, the Second World War, but this stitches it all together and also includes information about the Russian Revolution, the Red Terror, the founding or the beginning of the founding of the state of Israel, as well. It covers information about the Balfour Declaration.

 

Now, when I was looking through this and we touched on this earlier, I really, really enjoyed the pictures. And I really, really enjoyed the sort of these annotated. Well, there’s just so many sort of, so many pictures, drawings, pieces of propaganda.

 

And you can see when you look over this book that it draws all these different pieces together, and it allows the reader to see this not as a series of sort of isolated one offs, but as a concerted effort to demonise the German people, and specifically to also demonise nationalism. So Germans became the sort of avatars of, you know, nationalists in Europe, and they were demonised for that to a great degree.

 

And I think people have, you know, seen snippets of this. But to see it all pulled together in one place and to see the people behind it and to see those people named, and often to see pictures of those people sat together, because it’s very easy to give people lists of names. And if you’re new to this, to just be given a list of names of people who are involved is one thing, but to be given an image showing all those people sitting together at a conference arranging these very things, I think, is also incredibly important!

 

And then to juxtapose the information that we’ve been fed about German villainy and place it next to a genuine information about the Red Terror, about the Gulags, I think that places a lot of things in context as well. And this book does a brilliant job of placing everything that people may have been taught or may have heard as separate individual pieces and putting them into a larger context.

 

Now, obviously, when you were editing this, Dave, and putting this together, was that your intention, to bring all this into one place, contextualise it, and ensure that people saw this bigger picture?

 

Dave Gahary: No, I went into the project not knowing what to expect.

 

And like I said, it took about three years. I was interrupted by, of course, my hospitalisation from what is known as Covid for four months. But I jumped right back in it after I addressed another book that we had put out that I had begun before the hospitalisation. But no, I went into it without knowing what to expect. And it just evolved the way that it did.

 

Of course, a lot of time was spent on selecting these photographs and finding the ones that I thought might best represent the text on that particular page. So many hours are spent going through photographs. And Ben did have a lot of photographs of Hitler with children and all of his adoring fans to show how the Germans thought about him.

 

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Of course, we’re pretty much all familiar with that, and it’s a fantastic thing to look at. But I didn’t want to place an inordinate number of those type of photos in there. I just wanted to, as you all have mentioned, select photographs that were applicable to what was being discussed and perhaps some that we might not be that familiar with.

 

Mark Collett: Bill, obviously people talk about the Second World War as being a critical turning point in the history of Europe, and that’s something we all know. And I often say, I mean, I was at the Awakening Conference in Finland this weekend, and when we talk to anyone about modern Britain and about what is known as liberal democracy, that is something that has essentially grown post Second World War. We look back and we say the Second World War cemented all this, and in many ways it did.

 

But I think this book puts into context that the plans for this liberal democracy and the sort of taking away of the power of indigenous Europeans, those wheels were set in motion a long, long time before the Second World War even broke out. And this book really placed that in context for me. How would you approach that?

 

Bill Atheling: Yeah. Yes, I agree. Does that sound better now? I’m not clicking or making strange noises.

 

Mark Collett: No, no, the clicking is gone.

 

Bill Atheling: Yeah. It’s just because I’m an old bugger. Okay. That’s what it is. And I had the cable wrapped around my headphone.

 

You’re absolutely right, Mark. It’s so important that these things are laid out as, rather than being event X happened at this date, event Y happened at this date, and event Z happened at this date. It demonstrates the kind of interlinked and the causality of different events and how they culminated in certain events. And that’s what this book is very good at painting, that picture. But there’s something else, which I think is why it succeeds so well in terms of presenting that kind of mosaic of information. It’s the tone of the writer, and I’m sure Dave had a hand in that, in terms of developing the way that texts work together.

 

But, you know, he says things about, for example, when he talks about communism, for example, he says:

 

“The obvious flaw in communist ideology was that it defied human nature, moreover, it defied common sense.”

 

You know, he says these things in very clear, very concise and demonstrably true manner.

 

And then in the chapter, when he’s talking about Nuremberg, he concludes about the way that the trial was prosecuted:

 

“If these standards had been applied at Nuremberg, all sides would have been guilty of war crimes.”

 

Very straightforward, simple sentence, and underlines everything that’s come before. So he has this ability to say things in a very clear, direct, straightforward way.

 

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And I think that’s one of the most attractive things about this book, is the prose of the writer himself. I did mention this earlier, but this idea that it is presented in a way which is immediately digestible. And these facts are kind of woven together so that we don’t just see the picking over the carcass of a particular event at a particular specific time, but rather the kind of tsunami that rolled into town in the early 20th century and whose fatal flooding has continued to affect our civilisation ever since.

 

Mark Collett: Sally, how does this place things into context for you? Because, I mean, you and I have known each other for some time now, and it’s one of those things where you do believe that the Second World War was this pivotal moment.

 

But I don’t think people really realise how long these changes were building and how long this plan stretched back even before the First World War.

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah, really, the book was a revelation for me. We grew up with so much of it and how righteous we were and how wicked the Germans were. And I felt so guilty already just reading the book. Like when I was a child you looked down your noses on them and you very rarely saw any. But I just so happened to have a [word unclear] as a child, and she was a wicked cow! Real wicked cow! And now I understand why. Yeah, we look down on noses at them, even as early twenties, and if you met a German kraut, we called them “krauts”. And, yeah, I feel guilty. Guilty [word unclear] because I’ve been so deceived. I’ve bought into everything that I’m taught and grown up with, and the book, [words unclear] it’s a fantastic book!

 

When I read these books for the book club and I write down any questions I have or something to make sense, but when I did write down [words unclear] and the question within two or three, it answers everything that you ever wanted to know. If I just answered your question mark. But the yeah, the book is a revelation. Other people, other boomers should read it. Well if you could convince someone to read it, but then the title would put a lot of the boomers off. It is such a such a good book. I’m still flabbergasted by it!

 

And I read it a couple of months ago. It really is. And, yeah, I’ll pass now.

 

Mark Collett: Natty, what’s your thoughts about the way this pulls everything together? And then we’re going to move on to a slightly different topic that I think is very important.

 

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Natty: Yeah, it’s a well presented narrative.

 

I mean, I’m happy to move on. You guys have covered everything that’s you’ve said about the way this book’s presented.

 

I will say this. It’s one thing to hear about propaganda against Germans in the First World War and the early in the outbreak of the Second World War and the times in between. And propaganda today looks a bit different and is more sophisticated.

 

But there are pictures in here of and they’re drawings. They’re not photographs, obviously, this is back in the First World War, where photographs would have been prohibitively expensive. But pictures of German soldiers bayoneting babies or crucifying allied soldiers to trees in the First World War, or dragging women off when they’re marching through Belgium to whip up this frenzy of hate against German people. Whereas that just hadn’t existed before on the outbreak of the First World War.

 

It’s almost like a switch is flipped, and all of this stuff gets produced, and all of a sudden, without any., … You know, you’ve got to remember this is a time without Internet. No counter narrative was available. All of a sudden, people., … And, it’s hard to know how suckered in by this people were or how much control there was and whether people were resistant to this or not. I’m sure a lot of people would have been, but simply there was no voice for that kind of dissent. Although maybe I’m wrong about that. And you could look into archives and newspaper cuttings and find journalists and newspapers who were sceptical of these claims of the evil of Germany. But just all prevailing, all pervasive and totally.

 

I don’t know, it’s crazy to think about how effective but crude that propaganda was and how different it is to propaganda from today. But I’m happy to move on. And I know I haven’t really answered your question, but to see it in the illustrations in this book is something else, really impressive.

 

Mark Collett: Well, you’ve kind of taken me on to the topic I wanted to speak about next, because we’re coming up to the hour and we’ve got some Superchats. If people do want a Superchat, please do consider sending a small donation. If you want to say something about the book or ask any questions to the panel.

 

But I will say this, reading this book in the current context of the modern geopolitical struggles going on in this very moment was very, very interesting. And it was very, very interesting because at the moment, there are two conflicts. There is the conflict in the Ukraine, and there is the conflict in occupied Palestine.

 

And as you flick through this book, you see some, well, images and words and phrases and propaganda that alludes to a certain picture of Germans, and the Germans were obviously the enemies at this time.

 

So you see pictures of Germans pretending to be normal soldiers as they stand over the bodies of women that they’ve just mutilated. You see pictures of German nurses who apparently would rather pour water on the floor than give it to a wounded allied soldier. There are pictures of Germans bayoneting children or walking or marching with children impaled on their bayonets. There are pictures of Germans crucifying allied soldiers or dragging away girls set to the background of villages or towns on fire.

 

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So the Germans are all always portrayed as these murderous brutes who not only are almost sort of like Orcish, if you were to put it into sort of a the writings of Tolkien, these are sort of Orcs, and Orcs in Tolkien’s writings are absolutely inhuman! You know, they don’t think like us. They’re not like us, and they should never be treated like us. They’re a different breed, a different creature. And that’s what Germans were sort of written up like.

 

But if you take all of that and you look at the propaganda surrounding both the conflict in the Ukraine and the conflict in occupied Palestine, it’s almost amazing, because, you know, from the First World War, we’re now over 100 years on from the end of that war. But the propaganda used to make Britons and the other allied nations hate the Germans is almost identical to the propaganda we see today around the war in the Ukraine and Israel’s wholesale genocide of the Palestinian people, which is incredible!

 

So you hear today about Palestinians butchering babies, you know, roasting them in ovens, and every day, the number of babies that were apparently either beheaded or carried off, you know, grows. But that’s exactly what the same people were saying about the Germans.

 

Natty: And we’re supposed to believe that Russian soldiers today, who are fighting on the front lines in Ukraine, if given the opportunity, would storm across Europe and kill us all in our beds and subjugate us to the most terrible tyranny and also believe that Palestinians hate us for some ridiculous reasons that were never solidified.

 

And like I said, sometimes the propaganda is crude, and sometimes it’s sophisticated. But you see this whole network of today, these supposedly Right-wing influencers and stuff like this, trying to reinforce these narratives as in some cases, more heavily favouring Israel, and in some cases, on the Left or progressive side, more favouring the Ukrainians [Palestinians].

 

But in both cases, we’re supposed to believe that people who have nothing to do with us and don’t know us from Adam, are kind of eternal enemies and are ontologically evil and would do terrible things to us, given the opportunity. And it’s simply not true! And it wasn’t true of the Germans, either.

 

But it’s the same propaganda machine, the same people telling us these things, and it’s ridiculous! As soon as you start to scratch beneath the surface and look at the realities of conflict and land and control and governments and policies, it’s just absurd on its face. Palestinians don’t hate me. Why would they? They probably hate my government. Russians don’t hate me and don’t want to take over my country. They’re engaged in a kind of empire expansion, or a quest to take back natural resources.

 

These are questions that are answerable, and there’s questions, and there’s policies like that that revolve around the First World War and the Second World War. But to expand it into people being evil enough to do something that is kind of almost religiously bad, is just insane! And it’s insane to anyone who’s capable of making their brain cells fire more than you need just to watch the new Netflix, you know, series or whatever.

 

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Bill Atheling: You’re right, Natty. And, it’s absolutely what you’ve said there is spot on! It’s an absolute case of “Plus Les choses changent, plus elles restent Les mêmes”. The more things change, the more they stay the same. And there is that historical echo. The same fallacies are trotted out, and the same number of people believe them, unfortunately. These things are., …

 

There’s an example of the power of this propaganda is, if I can just deviate very slightly, but there’s a Welshman, a writer called Arthur Machen*, who wrote a story called The Bowman, in 1914. And it’s a fictional story about how, during an attack at Mons, Agincourt bowman arrive and shoots spectral arrows into the air and stops the German advance and so on.

 

[* Arthur Machen (3 March 1863 – 15 December 1947) was the pen-name of Arthur Llewellyn Jones, a Welsh author and mystic of the 1890s and early 20th century. He is best known for his influential supernatural, fantasy, and horror fiction. His novella The Great God Pan (1890; 1894) has Garnered a reputation as a classic of horror, with Stephen King describing it as “Maybe the best [horror story] in the English language.” [2] He is also well known for “The Bowmen”, a short story that was widely read as fact, creating the legend of the Angels of Mons. Source: Wikipedia]

 

And people believed this story, that it was published in the press, and it was published as a piece of fiction, but people implicitly believed it.

 

And in fact, Machen would receive letters saying:

 

“What was your source? What happened? How did you find this information?”

 

He got a letter from a clergyman about this, and he had to say to the clergyman:

 

“Well, no, it’s a piece of fiction.”

 

And to the point where the clergyman wrote back to him and said:

 

“No, you’re mistaken. It’s real. It must be real! What’s your source?”

 

So this is the problem you have with propaganda.

 

Mark Collett: Does Dave, or well, Sally’s not commented yet. Sally, would you like to say anything about this? Because I’m going to ask Dave a few questions in a second. Sally, what are your thoughts on this?

 

Aunt Sally: About?

 

Mark Collett: Yes, about propaganda.

 

Aunt Sally: Well, as far as propaganda is concerned, I think I realised that what the telly told you was a lie, and I cancelled my TV licence and actually haven’t watched TV since. And I stopped consuming mainstream [word unclear] or buying and reading their news. Sometimes I keep an eye on what’s going on, or what they are, but I know now, and I’ve known for a few years, and probably that’s the difference, that are still people believing it.

 

Yet the power of propaganda is, it’s deceit, isn’t it? It’s just all about deceiving you into going with what they want you to believe. And the war generations they were invested in it. And that they invested their lives, [words unclear]. Would have been awful for them to realise the truth! It really would. So they had to invest in the propaganda, and [words unclear] Russians, and it was a righteous war, and the Germans are evil. They needed that. Otherwise, if they realised what they’d really done., … And they’re all dead now, aren’t they? It goes to the next generations, if they ever find out.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you. Dave?

 

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Dave Gahary: Yes.

 

Mark Collett: I mean, obviously, you do your own show and you publish many books. Do you think this book, at this point in history, is something that carries a more pressing message because of this? I mean, I think we were discussing this briefly before the show and whether we were going to go into this.

 

And obviously we have got here, and I was thinking about it as we were talking about generally what the book was about.

 

But I do think the issues in this book today are as relevant as they ever were. And how do you view this? Because, I mean, ultimately, they’ve been telling exactly the same lies now for almost a century. Well, for over a century.

 

Dave Gahary: Right. Yes. And that actually is., … Well, before I say that, just let me say that I’m floored by all of your comments about how much you love the book, because, as I mentioned, I poured a lot of work into it, and it’s great to hear that, especially from this group, that you all loved it! So thank you. Means a lot to me.

 

And Tom Goodrich of Hellstorm, he wrote the foreword. As you know, I wanted to mention that earlier, and the cover was done by a close colleague of mine, Paul Angel from the Barnes Review, an American Free Press, we have worked together for going on about 20 years, and he’s a terrific guy. And it took us a while to come up with this cover. It was one of those covers that we really weren’t quite sure about which direction we would go in. And this was what we settled on, and I think it came out very well.

 

But as far as this topic and how it relates to today and what you and I, Mark, had touched upon briefly was that with all of the stuff happening since we first talked about doing this book review, it’s almost like the discussion of a book like this, a historical book like this, would be viewed as something pedestrian or staid.

 

[1:05:34]

 

Maybe the main attraction that I have to history is what you had touched upon earlier is that everything’s the same. And the reason that everything’s the same, I think, is that people don’t change. One could read The Iliad and The Odysee, written thousands and thousands of years ago, and it’s almost as if you’re hearing about something that occurred in your life in the current day, because human nature doesn’t change!

 

And I think a book like this is very important, as are many other history books, because they reveal that what happened over 100 years ago, the people who were manipulating and deceiving with their propaganda are doing the same exact thing today at a different target.

 

So I think that if someone picks up this book and if it gives them just that, the understanding that there really is nothing new under the sun, that all of this was done before, not just in the 19th and, 200th century centuries, but thousands of years ago, because human nature doesn’t change.

 

So besides giving one the knowledge that I feel is necessary to understanding this particular topic, it also gives the reader the ability to get a greater grasp on human nature and how that stays constant throughout the ages. So, yes, I think that although we are confronted with currently much, much different challenges than you might read about in The Myth of German Villainy, they are all tied together and they can’t be separated.

 

In fact, it might be that someone gaining the knowledge of the propaganda and manipulation that took place during the First World War and the Second World War and continues to take place via the you know, there’s plenty of terms for the media, but, you know, one of one of my recent favourites is the “lying legacy media”. The lying legacy media, I think, is really the biggest culprit for the dumbing down and kept in the dark propaganda for the public. And that ties into people like us who are looking for answers outside of what the lying legacy media is spewing.

 

People like us are in the stark minority. You know, I refer to people like us as mutants because we are not afraid to entertain any thought or idea, whereas the masses, who can’t. If you told them that:

 

“I’ve been looking into the history of this and of World War Two, and I just I don’t think that Hitler was as bad of a guy as they tell us he is.”

 

You know, most people would recoil in horror because of how they’ve been programmed.

 

So these are the people. And I mean, like, 99.999% of humanity cannot entertain an original thought, an original idea. If it goes off course from what they’ve been programmed, they are going to have a violent reaction to it.

 

So I don’t think we can wait. And I’m going a little off topic here, but I think it ties into it.

 

But I don’t think we could wait for them to catch up to us. I think we just have to steam ahead and try to get the important information, like we’re talking about today, to as many open minds as possible.

 

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Natty: I just want to push back on that a little bit, Dave, because I think that after October 7 [2023, Hamas attacking the Israelis] and for Americans, maybe a little bit more so, the amount of money that’s being sent to Ukraine, I think that people are becoming more receptive to jewish power or jewish over representation and nepotism in a way that I haven’t seen before.

 

And I’m not sure. Maybe you’re going to tell me:

 

“No, this is a cycle. And people go back to, …”

 

Dave Gahary: No, I agree with you 100%. Absolutely! Yeah, 100%. As a matter of fact, I predicted what would happen in 2022. I thought it was going to happen in 2020, but then they rolled out that Covid thing.

 

But in 2022, I predicted that 2023 would be our best year and, 20024 would be even better than that. And the reason I did was because I saw things happening. And at the time I said that in 2022, none of my colleagues agreed with me, none saw it.

 

And I’m not saying that I’m some kind of a seer and that I have great, you know, predictive abilities, but I did see it. And it was obvious to me because of what was happening, how people were responding, the comments that were, in posts.

 

And I’m not an “anti-social media” guy or social media guy, which I call “anti-social media” because that’s what it is. I’m not a social media guy. But I did see a post that somebody brought to my attention on X. And it was this vampire like character from the ADL, Greenblatt, who, you know, had spewed some filth about Leo Frank and saying he was exonerated. And this was the first time I actually read comments on a post.

 

And this was last year, and the post was made in March of last year. And I read every comment. There were about two to 300. And there was only one that said:

 

“My God, I’m jewish! You have to tell these people off!”

 

Something like that. All the rest were saying:

 

“What are you talking about? You guys framed that black guy!”

 

And going on and on. When those sort of opinions are allowed in the public square, which they were and are now, it was very clear to me that there was a huge seismic shift in the understanding of organised international jewry and, of course, that imaginary jewish power. And we are in the middle of a great awakening that has never before happened!

 

And I remember I was talking about it on the show, I do that Mark mentioned with David Duke on Sunday nights, a call in show which allows anybody from anywhere to call in and talk to the good doctor. And I brought that up about this mass awakening.

 

[1:13:39]

 

And, of course, as I mentioned, nobody thought that that was happening, but now everybody sees that it’s happening.

 

And I said to David that:

 

“You must be feeling pretty good, because what you’ve been talking about for nearly six decades is finally people are seeing what’s going on.”

 

But I’ll temper that with saying that the people who are seeing what’s going on are the “mutants”.

 

So these are the ones who are already susceptible to accepting pretty much anything. It’s just that now it’s so obvious that they were like, wow, I can’t ignore this anymore. So I still think that those, the 99.999%, because we’re a very tiny number, our group of mutants, that 99.99% is still bubbled into their lying legacy media programming.

 

But I do think we are in a great awakening.

 

Natty: Sure. Yeah. I do agree with that, and there are a few things to watch out for. I know you say we’re a tiny amount of people, but we for the most part, have remained laser focused on this issue.

 

And I think it really does help. You know, if you could think about motes of dust surrounding us being pulled in and pulled into that laser as well. And there are a lot of distractions. You know, aliens are now apparently a thing, and the Illuminati and, you know whatever else, whatever else can be a distraction.

 

But I think for the most part, people like us in larger ways, like you and your publishing house, and sometimes in tiny, small ways, like us doing this podcast and this book review, and millions and millions, which is small in the grand scheme of things. People on places like Twitter and on social media sharing memes and ideas and talking and being dissidents, is forcing people who are trying to hold the tiller into swinging very slowly in this direction.

 

And to make another point, there are so many inroads into this now. Like I said, the liberal progressive people are suddenly finding out that Israel and the jewish power structure has carved out an exception to, if not genocide, ethnic cleansing at the very least. And they don’t like it. And now they have this inroad into:

 

“Well, why is there this exception?”

 

And they start asking questions like that. And it’s only going to lead to one place. And for the American Right, for the kind of the much lauded and shat upon boomers, their money, their tax money is being sent to Israel like never before, and the Ukraine, which for those people is a country on the other side of the world, but shouldn’t be receiving their money.

 

So all of these otherwise disparate groups are being forced to look into this issue and confront it and start asking questions if they have any desire to enact some sort of political change. Which I know is extremely hard, and we all know that here.

 

But I don’t think it’s not nothing. I’ll say that.

 

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Dave Gahary: No, no, it’s not. It’s something.

 

But I think we’re at a point now, and I’ve mentioned this several times on shows in private and publicly, that we can literally kick back a little bit because now the unhinged Left is doing our job for us. And we see that happening.

 

So it’s a great time to be alive because all of the stuff that we focused on, in our group, if I can call it that, is the most educated group out there, because again, it goes back to not being afraid to entertain any idea or thought. So we are interested in learning. We want to dig into things. And yes, there are a lot of distractions. Flat earth, aliens, the Illuminati, Hitler was a Rothschild, all that stuff.

 

One of the things that keeps me going is that I feel like I do have that. And I’ll borrow your term “laser focus” on what I’m trying to do. And I don’t let this stuff distract me. And I don’t., As Sally was saying, I don’t watch television. I haven’t watched it since 1991, when my first son was born. I have no interest in it. I have no interest in the jew’s media, or whatever you want to call it. I tangentially look at it, but I know what they’re going to say, of course.

 

So the good news is that media is dying! But you’ve got people like Joe Rogan and his ilk who refuse to, or are unaware of what is really happening, and they don’t go to that next step.

 

So I really think that people like us, it is an incredibly small, minuscule group, but it’s those small groups who have changed history.

 

I mean, I’ll use, you know what you all created, your ancestors created this nation here. And it was only about 8,000 Patriots with a capital “P” who were organising the rebellion against their British overlords. Because of what we mentioned earlier, taxation without representation, nothing has changed. They went against all the odds to defeat the greatest empire in history. So I’m certainly not saying that we cannot win. If I woke up every day and sat down at my desk and thought that I wouldn’t wake up, I just give up.

 

So I have high hopes. I think that in America, we’re taught that, or at least we were when I grew up – I was born in 1960 – that anybody could be the president.

 

Unfortunately, we’ve seen that happen. Anybody could do anything that they want to do. I’m a firm believer in that. I’ve experienced that. I’ve done things that I still can’t believe I’ve done them. I don’t think it was myself doing. I think I had help, but I think that we can do anything. And if we don’t think that way, we sell ourselves and those around us short!

 

And I think we should all believe that we can achieve victory.

 

And I believe that we can!

 

[1:21:20]

 

Mark Collett: Thank you. Some inspiring words there, Dave.

 

So this is the part of the show where I really want to throw it open to Bill, Sally and Natty. I’ve done a lot of speaking. Are there anything, is there anything in the book that you guys would like to particularly focus on or bring up or anything about the book that you think I’ve missed or maybe something in the book that was missed? So, Bill, is there anything you’d like to bring up?

 

Bill Atheling: Well, I don’t know whether it’s something that you might have missed, but there’s a particular quote in chapter 13, which is by an English Daily Express reporter, and it’s quite a lengthy quote. But it’s very interesting as an insight into how Germany was perceived in the thirties before things swung around.

 

So, for example, this is six months after Germany’s militarisation and the incursions of the Rhineland and a month after the Olympics. And he writes things like this:

 

“There is, for the first time since the war, a general sense of security.”

 

Speaking, obviously, about Germany:

 

“The people are more cheerful. There is a greater sense of general gaiety of spirits throughout the land. It is a happier Germany. I saw it everywhere. An Englishman I met during my trip and who knew Germany well, were very impressed with the changes.”

 

And he goes on to say:

 

“It impressed me more than anything I witnessed during my short visit to New Germany, a powerful revivalist atmosphere, an extraordinary effect in unifying the nation.”

 

And then he goes on to say about all the different types of Germans who have brought together, Bavarians and northerners and so on.

 

Natty: Wait, Bill, can you imagine anybody walking around England today and asking any Englishman and getting that impression? I don’t think so.

 

Bill Atheling: Absolutely! Absolutely! And there’s this sense that we have this lens that has been calcified in the years since 1945, and that was still fluid and it was still moving before that period. And but we still have documentation like this to look at and to access and say:

 

“Well, actually, there was this idea that there was this, you know, we’re showing all the television dramas and films and movies, and there’s the coming storm and all this kind of thing, and everybody’s gloomy, and everyone thinks that there’s a terrible evil rising in the east.”

 

And it’s just not the case. There isn’t this kind of Sauron like monster rising in the east. You know, people didn’t see it in that sense. This is a post-war painting. And just looking at things like that, just looking at that, just very simple series of quotes from that particular period really underlines that.

 

[1:24:16]

 

One of the things which when I was teaching, I used to say to students before lectures was “question received wisdom”. That sounds in some ways to be a negative thing. You say:

 

“Well, you don’t question tradition and so on.”

 

But actually, we were getting students, kids who had done A levels and so on.

 

Their minds had been so constricted and narrowed that all of a sudden I was saying to them:

 

“Well, actually, no, you can question this. You’re allowed to question this. There’s these narratives.”

 

And I would try and red pill them and show them things and talk about things, and to a degree, got across to them that, it’s okay to actually question these narratives that we’ve been fed because I mean, the classic one thing I said was:

 

“When we’re looking at history, we are allowed to question all kind of interpretations of was Henry VIII the good king? Was Henry the bad king? And so on. But there’s one period in history we’re not allowed to question, and why do you think that is?”

 

You know, so I just pose questions to them and leave them to think about, to cogitate a little bit on that. And that’s what this book does in the sense it kind of breaks through that calcification and allows that kind of marinade in information which wouldn’t normally be denied to them.

 

And I think coming back to what Dave and Natty were saying about the propaganda war and in terms of the shift, we have this thing, the Internet, and as constricted and as restricting as it has become, in some ways, we’re streaming on Odysee and not YouTube, for example.

 

At the same time, it’s a barrel with too many holes in it, and they can’t plug all the leaks.

 

And so I think what this book does is it provides buckshot to knock through some of those barrels and let some of the water out.

 

Mark Collett: Sally, is there anything about the book that you think I’ve missed or anything that you’d like to bring up?

 

Aunt Sally: Right. My dog might bark because there’s a fox outside.

 

There is. I mean, for me, the thing, I just keep thinking about mine [words unclear] and I think I’ve covered it already. I don’t want to repeat myself, but we weren’t taught about the war. We were given films on [words unclear] no one talked. The parents didn’t talk about it. The school didn’t talk about it. And I grew up why the war happened? And I used to ask my father:

 

“Did you go to war to save jews?”

 

That’s what I thought they went to. He didn’t really answer me, but I presumed it. So I thought it was about saving the jews. I had no idea, even till.

 

And this book, it’s just all there and I can’t recommend it enough. It’s such an eye opener. It explains every little thing. I wish I’d had it, you know, when I was a child. It would have. [words unclear] Yeah, well, I’ve just written down, we were brought up in total ignorance, that generation. And to go forth, and my father used to say:

 

“Go! We had to suffer. Enjoy it. Enjoy your life!”

 

And I think that was the case for all the boomers:

 

“Go forth, because we never had any [words unclear] go forth and enjoy the world.”

 

Because our parents and our grandparents, … So that’s me making excuses for the boomers, although I know that they’re kind of irredeemable, but they don’t know what I know. Yeah, I’ll stop now, Mark.

 

[1:28:45]

 

Bill Atheling: Well, you’re quite right, Sally.

 

And I think and I speak to my dear old mum, who’s in her eighties, and then she’s got a very fixed eye idea of that period in history and, you know, won’t move on it in many ways. But that generation is the old generation, and that’s very different amongst Zoomers and so on.

 

I think there’s a very different attitude that’s growing now.

 

Mark Collett: So, Natty, is there anything in the book that you think was missed out or anything you want to add to what we’ve said tonight? And then we’ll do the Superchats.

 

Natty: Well, there’s loads in here that I don’t think we’re going to get round to, namely the Katyn Forest massacre, which I think you’ve done a podcast, or a standalone video yourself, Mark, and I think was covered in Hellstorm. It’s not famous, normie wise, but it’s fairly well known on the Right, so maybe it’s not worth going into. But I will just note that initially the allies blamed the Germans for the Katyn Forest massacre, in which something like 26,000 of the Polish, the elite, the kind of cream of Polish society, a cream of Polish men, officers and educators and teachers and stuff, were executed, turned out to be the Bolsheviks.

 

The second thing, this book also goes into Dresden, which we’ve covered before. I know we’ve covered before, which is probably one of the worst war crimes, minus, if you set aside Hiroshima and Nagasaki, one of the worst war crimes, I think, to come out of the Second World War.

 

But one of the things I wasn’t aware of which I’m not sure if this was covered in Hellstorm, if I’ve read it somewhere else. I don’t think I have. Was the jewish Brigade. And, Dave, you probably know about this. Mark, I’m not sure if this was something you’re aware of but essentially the book says this:

 

“There was a jewish infantry brigade group, more commonly known as the jewish Brigade, that not many had been aware of a military formation of the British army. It was formed in late 1994 [1944].”

 

It goes on:

 

“Using their British army credentials and uniforms, they travelled around Germany (this is after the war) and Austria, hunting down and killing high ranking German officers. They had unlimited logistical support from the British army, could requisition anything they needed and travelled anywhere in Germany or Austria. They had all of Germany’s official records, which the allies had given them, obviously.”

 

[1:31:36]

 

And these guys were, like, hell bent on executing people just for being in charge of groups of soldiers. There’s a quote here:

 

“One of the jewish executioners, Israel Kami, explained in Beckman’s book how they dealt with their selected targets. When we arrived at the home of our suspects, we were put on British military police helmets, wore white bands and police armlets. Then we would enter the home and take the suspect with us, saying that we wanted them for interrogation. Usually they came without struggle. Once in the car, we told the prisoner who we were and why we took him. Some admitted guilt. (He doesn’t say guilt of what) Others kept silent. We did the job. We were burning with hatred. We knew that our people would never forgive us if we did not exploit this opportunity to kill nazis.”

 

What he really means is kill Germans. I wasn’t aware of that you know, that’s a British, supposedly a British brigade, a British army unit operating after the Second World War, going around and executing soldiers who had surrendered. There’s so many things like that about the Second World War that just fill you with revulsion and sickness of what your own government was up to!

 

Bill Atheling: It’s as if the dreadful Tarantino., …

 

Natty: Yes, exactly. In reverse!

 

Bill Atheling: Yeah, absolutely!

 

Natty: Yeah. There’s so many things like that.

 

I mean, this is going off on a tangent a little bit, but there’s a lot of instances in the media doing that kind of thing, switching up the sides. So Inglourious Basterds [2009] has this, you know, group of jews going around and killing people during the war. Well, it wasn’t, they weren’t taking prisoners in some partisan raid and carrying out daring things. They just got records and were going around extra judicially taking revenge on Germans.

 

And to get slightly off topic here, the same thing happened with, I’m going to forget the name of the film now, but it’s about a court case in which, oh it’s Our Time to Kill, it’s called. And it’s about a black father who kills two White kind of supremacists in the deep south after they rape his daughter. And the court case is all about the lawyer trying to get this black father off because you probably aren’t going to be judged too harshly for killing those two men.

 

But it turns out that the case was entirely reversed, and it was actually two black guys who had raped a young White girl. And that was the case that John Grisham had based the book off, which was the film was based off. That’s just an aside, but it just goes to show you the power of propaganda and what media can do.

 

[1:34:31]

 

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah. A pure jewish piece of propaganda! Screenplay by Akiva Goldsman, produced by Arnon Milchan.*

 

[* A Time to Kill is a 1996 American legal drama film based on John Grisham’s 1989 novel of the same name. Sandra Bullock, Samuel L. Jackson, Matthew McConaughey, and Kevin Spacey star with Donald and Kiefer Sutherland appearing in supporting roles and Octavia Spencer in her film debut. The film received mixed reviews but was a commercial success, making $152 million world-wide. Source: Wikipedia]

 

And of course, that’s that jewish Israeli spy who up until now has gotten off the hook with all the spying he did for Israel here in the United States.

 

Natty: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you. Let’s do some of these Superchats. We will go through these and then we’ll give our final thoughts on the book. Open borders for Israel gave $5. Thank you so much, my friend. And thank you so much for your continued support. He says:

 

“Hey, Mark, would you consider doing a review of any Lothrop Stoddard’s books?”

 

I’m not sure what they are:

 

“I recommend The Rising Tide of Colour Against White World Supremacy*. It was written in the 1920s and predicted a massive number of non-Whites coming to the West.”

 

I haven’t actually heard of that, but thank you for the suggestion. I will look into it.

 

[* The Rising Tide of Color: The Threat Against White World-Supremacy (1920), by Lothrop Stoddard, is a book about racialism and geopolitics, which describes the collapse of White supremacy and colonialism because of the population growth among people of colour, rising nationalism in colonised nations, and industrialisation in China and Japan. To counter the perceived geopolitical threat, Stoddard advocated Nordicism, racial segregation, and general racism, restricting non-white immigration into white-majority countries, restricting immigration of non-members of the “Nordic race” to countries primarily containing members of the “Nordic race”; restricting Asian migration to Africa; and slowly giving independence to European colonies in Asia (including the Middle East). A noted eugenicist, Stoddard supported a separation of the “primary races” of the world and warned against miscegenation, the mixing of the races. Source: Wikipedia]

 

Natty: I had it. I had a quick look at that, Mark. And Wikipedia is probably not a good source, but it seems that Stoddard had some other ideas, like we talked about earlier, that went off the rails slightly, but it might be worth looking into.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, I’ll have a look into that. And thank you for the Superchat. D salon seven gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Here in America, German villainy did not exist before 1916.”

 

Now, this is a really good point. I don’t know if Dave wants to comment on this briefly. He says:

 

“We had German language schools, newspapers, social clubs, and strong ties to Germany all long gone now. A rich cultural legacy eradicated, leaving only faint traces behind. In any of the context, this would be called a mass atrocity.”

 

Would you like to comment on that, Dave?

 

The fact that America was once a lot of German representation and that was basically stamped out.

 

[1:36:28]

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah, a lot of this stuff, personally, I get angry about it. But yes, there was, there still is a huge German population here in America. And unfortunately, because of the propaganda and who spews it, yeah, the Germans were wholesale looked upon as the enemy. And the people who control the media have had it out for these poor folks for a long time. And they still do, obviously.

 

So that’s why it’s incumbent on us in our positions, in our individual and group positions, to make sure that we do whatever we can to get the proper information out to as many people as possible, not knowing who we’re going to impact, but knowing that we are, in fact, having a great impact, especially now.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much, Andy Great Story. Good to see you tonight, my friend. Again, $10. He said:

 

“The award section of Money Tree Publishing is fantastic! Exemplary awards!”

 

Well, thank you, my friend. And obviously, if you want this book, please do go to Money Tree Publishing. The link is in the description below. It takes you to where you can purchase this second edition of the book.

 

And I believe that’s exclusive to Money Tree Publishing. I couldn’t find it anywhere else.

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah, it is, Mark, I just want to say first two things. One is the awards section. I named it “Awards” because that was if you go to Money Tree publisher and you look on the menu, you’ll see it says Awards. And what that is that was the award I was given by the Anti-Defamation League. So thank you again, ADL and Jonathan Greenblatt!

 

Now in the United States, and yes, it is exclusive just to us, and we carry a lot of banned books and exclusive products. But the way that the US postal system works, the United States, Postal Service, is that currently the US government is subsidizing China.

 

And of course, this is at the expense of countries like the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, pretty much everywhere else.

 

So China is getting great rates because of, obviously, economics, and they’re making everybody else pay through the nose. So if somebody from the UK went to Money Tree Publishing and, let’s say, selected the colour version of the book, the cost of the colour version is $35. The cost of the black and white is 25. The shipping to the United Kingdom is $32.58.

 

So if you got the black and white version, the shipping would cost more than the actual book, which is really horrible, but we have no control over that.

 

But what I will say is that if anyone from the UK wants to get the book, just go to moneytreepublishing.com and click on the contact tab and send an email to me. I’ll get it. And just have the subject line Villainy or MGV, capital M, capital G, capital V for Myth German Villainy. And just let me know you’re from the UK and I can arrange it so the shipping cost will be reduced to maybe five or six pounds sterling versus almost US$33.

 

[1:40:32]

 

So I can do that because we can get this printed in the UK at a facility in the UK and shipped to the UK. So that would probably help out with anyone who doesn’t., … And I can’t blame you. I wouldn’t want to pay those prices. But these books are available only from Money Tree Publishing. And when we first started in January 2017 with one book, we have never raised our prices and we don’t plan on raising the prices because the goal is just to disseminate the information. This isn’t like a typical “for profit business”. It’s to get this information into as many hands as possible.

 

So we’re not focused on making money, we’re focused on educating with this material.

 

So please go to moneytreepublishing.com, click on the contact tab, fill out that information and let us know you’re from the UK, and we’ll save you close to probably $30.

 

Mark Collett: Superb. Thank you so much! It Was Made Up gave $5. Thanks so much:

 

“Just a small donation to keep the lights on. Thank you and farewell to Bill, and thank you for making me aware of Money Tree Publishing.”

 

Thank you so much! Robbie Herbert gave $5. Thanks so much. Said:

 

“My maternal grandmother went over the top. Sorry, maternal grandfather went over the top on the first day of the Somme in 1916 with nearly 800 men while serving in the 8th Battalion, King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. He was wounded himself, but returned with less than 200 men on that fateful day. Something that he would never talk about.”

 

Thank you so much! And Robbie Herbert gave another $3.

 

Natty: Can I break in on that Superchat? Because, …

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, sure.

 

Natty: Someone mentioned this in the chat. There’s a brilliant YouTube channel [https://www.youtube.com/@ZoomerHistorian] at the moment called Zoomer Historian, or I think it’s Historian Zoomer. I’m not sure it’s even which way around, but he has just produced, I think it’s almost an hour long video saying:

 

“What would the war veterans think today? Would they have fought?”

 

It’s a really good channel and I don’t think it’s going to last long. So I’ll give it a plug here and if anyone wants to check it out, you can, because that Superchat, I think it was Rory Herbert, is very relevant to that topic, which is his latest video. So give Zoomer historian a chance if you’re on YouTube, guys.

 

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Mark Collett: Thank you. Good plug there. And Rory Herbert gave another $3. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Just over a year ago, I was invited to a St. George’s Day dinner at my old regiment. One of the guest speakers was the Ukrainian ambassador. Needless to say I decided not to attend. But it just goes to show how the British army, the Ministry of Defence and our government are in cahoots with one another.”

 

Thank you so much! Zach gave an Aussie token, said:

 

“Mark, please review Joe Haldeman’s Forever War.* And did you ever hear from Jeremy from Kentucky, Patrick Satter is co-host about doing a show about PA on RBN?”

 

No, but it is something I would like to do, so if Jeremy’s listening, I would do that.

 

[* The Forever War, a 1974 novel by Joe Haldeman. The Forever War is a military science fiction novel by American author Joe Haldeman, telling the contemplative story about human soldiers fighting an interstellar war against an alien civilisation known as the Taurans. It won the Nebula Award in 1975 and the Hugo and Locus awards in 1976. Forever Free and Forever Peace are, respectively, direct and thematic sequel novels. Wikipedia]

 

Skip Meister, 68, gave $15. Thank you so much for the kind donation, and Space Can gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“What is a world of peace if it is made from the blood of innocents? Our ancestors demand an accounting for the World Wars inflicted upon us!”

 

I agree. That is a very, very good Superchat! And we have one more Superchat that was over on, … Let me just bring it up. Where’s the where’s the other tab? It was over on Rumble and it’s for $20 from Red Pill. Thank you so much!:

 

“Thank you, Mark, for all you do. I own this book. Will watch the replay. Wanted to throw you some funds, though. You’re a living legend!”

 

Well, thank you for so much, my friend. Thank you for the kind words.

 

So that is the Superchats wrapped up. We’ve got about ten minutes left, so let’s everyone give their summations of the book going around the group. Bill, Aunt Sally, Natty, then me, and then we’ll give Dave the last word. Starting with you, Bill. Go ahead, my friend.

 

Bill Atheling: Thank you, Mark.

 

And I must say that I’ve been very fortunate. Every book that I’ve been involved in reviewing on the book club has been really good, and this is no exception. My grandfather was a Dunkirk veteran. He was very badly wounded at Dunkirk and invalided out for the rest of the war. Very patriotic man. Believed he was doing the right thing. Lied about his age to join up. After the war. And what he saw, the way the country was going, he was incredibly disillusioned in it. And I think, just going back to what Natty was saying about with these ex-servicemen, he certainly would have had second thoughts if he had the chance again.

 

I think this is an excellent book! It challenges the orthodox historical interpretation of events throughout recent history. The last 150 years. It does so in a very concise, direct and convincing way, and in a way that is actually very accessible. It’s very well written. It’s written in a very clear style of prose. It’s well backed up, it’s well referenced and it’s well worth buying.

 

[1:46:14]

 

Aunt Sally: First of all, I want to apologise for the sound quality of me tonight. It will be fixed for the next one.

 

And also, I want to say thank you, Bill, for being part of the book club. It’s been great having you. This book, out of all the books we’ve done, I think this is the most important book! If I could only keep one, it would be this one, alongside Hellstorm. It’s not my favourite book, but it’s the most important. When I saw it was a book about politics, I don’t like reading about politics in particular, really bore me.

 

But it was just one of those I couldn’t put it down. In fact, when I did put it down, I was then thinking, it’s a fantastic book and I can’t recommend it highly enough. Thank you.

 

Mark Collett: Natty.

 

Natty: Yeah, fantastic! Highly recommended! And, like I said, there are many books that cover various aspects, but this book is a great overview.

 

So if you are looking as someone who isn’t well read on this subject, this would be a really good place to start, and then you could branch off and dive into other topics.

 

Just as a final note, there’s loads in this book we didn’t cover, and I’ve got quite a lot in my notes, but Dolo on Odysee says:

 

“Big A, (and he’s talking about Adolf Hitler) let the Dunkirk lads go.”

 

That’s correct. And there’s a there’s a section in this book that covers Dunkirk, what happened and how the Brits were amazed when they found out that Hitler essentially let the entire British force go. And didn’t wipe them out and didn’t take them captive, because he was hoping that, … He had a lot of admiration for the British and was hoping that they wouldn’t pester him anymore. Unfortunately, I didn’t pan out for him.

 

But there’s just so many nuggets of information like that in this book, and there’s a quotation by German admiral on that subject. So, like I said, there’s loads of stuff like this in this book.

 

So if you want to find out about this pivotal period in history, this book is a very good place to start.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, well, I’m going to give my thoughts on it. I obviously really enjoyed the book. I thought it was excellent, and it went well beyond the scope of what I was expecting it to go over. It’s much bigger, much more in depth.

 

And I think I went through a few of the chapter headings earlier, but here’s that again. The myth of Germany is an evil nation. The Bolshevik Revolution spreads throughout Europe, the nation of Israel, life in Germany under Hitler creating the case for war, Germany as the victim. There’s plenty in there, and it covers a real lengthy period of a tumultuous period of European history and puts it all into context.

 

So I really recommend it. But the thing I really like about this book is its very illustrative as well. I think these books can be very heavy, especially when they’re trying to explain things. But this book stops short. It doesn’t actually explain things. It shows you them with great pictures, illustrations. All these things are annotated, and it let’s, you know exactly the kind of propaganda that the people at the time were being fed.

 

[1:50:08]

 

And I think this book is so important at the moment because it let’s everybody know that this isn’t something new, that what we’re living through now is not unique. Our time is not something out of the ordinary. This sort of manure has been fed to our people for decades. For centuries, in fact, now. The weaponisation of propaganda to force people to go to war, to make people hate other people. This is an age old tactic. And the tactic hasn’t really changed or evolved. It’s still the same today as it was 100 years ago. Babies being beheaded, people dragging women off as they burn their homes down. And in today’s world, these things are being used every day to make British people want to go to war with Russia, to want to stand by and let Israel carpet bomb Palestinian civilians.

 

So I think this book is not only important from a historical perspective, but it helps people today place what we’re seeing within wider perspective.

 

So, yeah, a fantastic book! Dave, is there any last words you would like to say before we shut things down?

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah. Thank you, of course, for having me on and headlining the book, and great to take part in this discussion, and thank you all for your kind words about the book. Like I said, it shows me that I did my job, and I’m very appreciative of that. I want to just thank you, Mark and the panelists here and your organisation for everything you are doing, because we’re all noticing what’s happening, of course, over here on this side of the pond. And we’re very sad about the direction that things are going with the stifling of freedom of speech.

 

Of course, we have those protections enshrined here in our constitution, thanks to, as I mentioned, your ancestors. We have the Constitution. We have the so-called Bill of Rights with the speech protections and other protections.

 

And so we’re in a much different position, again, thanks to your country.

 

So we’re able to say the things that, sadly, you can’t. But we are very appreciative of what your organisation is doing, and we’re very saddened by some of the recent development with Sam and seeing the child born and him not being able to take part in that, it’s very disheartening the direction of things.

 

But again, I’ll say that for me, as long as I’m alive and breathing, I’m going to do whatever I can to make sure that we do have free speech.

 

And that’s really what keeps me going. It’s not that I have anything against a particular race or ethnic group. It’s that being an American and being raised with the protections that we were raised with, if you don’t use it, you’re going to lose it. And I don’t want anyone telling me what I can say, when I can say it.

 

And again, I can’t obviously equate this country with yours, but I can say that we’ll do whatever we can here on our side to help you guys out and make sure that you can get what we have. Thankfully, again, thanks to your great country.

 

[1:54:26]

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much! I think it’s been a great show tonight. I am extremely tired because I’ve been up since 03:00 am, traveling back from Finland. So I hope it’s still been a high energy show and that I’ve been coherent throughout. There’ll be more updates through the week, hopefully when pictures and speeches emerge from the event in Finland, which I hope you all enjoy.

 

Anyway, we’ll be back next month. I’ve got to just firm up who the, whether the author of the book that we’re having on next month, so I don’t want to announce it, is free on that particular Sunday. So going forward from there. I’ll be making an announcement very shortly on that, and if it is the book we think it’s going to be, there will also be a free PDF of that, which I’ll share with everyone so people can actually read the book before, for free. So that’ll be quite exciting.

 

Anyway, I just like to say a huge thank you to Dave for coming on tonight. Massive thanks to Aunt Sally and Natty, but a special thanks to Bill. It’s his last episode tonight.

 

I’d like to thank him for all his hard work with the book club over the years. It’s been really great hosting with him, and I look forward to seeing him at future events. And if he ever wants to come back for a one off, he is more than welcome.

 

So, would everyone like to say goodnight? And let’s give the last word tonight to Bill. So Sally, Natty, if you’d like to say goodnight, and then we’ll throw it over to Bill and close things down.

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah, I just want to say good night Dave, and thank you very much for actually doing the book in the first place, because I think it’s a valuable resource for future generations.

 

And as Natty said, it’s a brief overview. It’s almost, I say, an idiot’s guide to what happened, but it’s an easy read guide to what happened.

 

So I just want to thank you, really, from the bottom of my heart, for bringing it all about. Thank you for being on the show as well. Thank you.

 

Dave Gahary: Thank you, Sally.

 

Natty: Yeah, good night, guys. Bill, you’re going to be missed! And to echo what a lot of people are saying in the chat, we miss Sam as well. And Dave, thank you for your kind words on that.

 

I mean, I didn’t have loads of interaction with Sam, but I miss him. You know, he was always present and I look forward to the day he’s back.

 

So thank you Chat, everyone who’s been interacting tonight, it’s been good and look forward to it next time.

 

[1:56:51]

 

Dave Gahary: Thanks, Natty.

 

Bill Atheling: Oh, thank you, everybody. And Mark, thank you so much! I totally enjoyed doing this. It’s just one of those things, circumstances beyond my control unfortunately, at the moment. It’s been a great privilege and a great pleasure to be here with this group of eloquent and interesting people. And thank you, Dave, for your book. It’s excellent!

 

As I said, it’s a high recommendation from me. And, yeah, Mark if things. Circumstances change, who knows? Maybe I’ll be allowed to come back on at some point in the future. But we’ll see what happens. But thank you, everyone. Keep supporting our guys. You know, I’m off to see Sam again next month. I write to him each week. You know, I write to Sam as well. Keep supporting them. You know, they, they’re doing well, but they need to hear from everyone and I’m sure many people are doing that anyway. Yeah. Thank you, everyone. And I shall bow out.

 

Dave Gahary: Thanks, Bill.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you so much to everyone.

 

I will be back in the week for Patriotic Weekly Review with Blair Cottrell.

 

I will also be gracing your screens when the footage from the Awakening Conference comes out. I did a speech all about Sam Melia and about the heroes of the future, so look forward to that.

 

I will also be back with Natty next weekend for the Nationalist A-Team. He will have all the maps installed or else he will face my wrath! And we will have a special guest for that stream as well, No Chance!

 

So we will be doing plenty through the week.

 

And if you haven’t checked it out, I’ve got a video out this week. It’s a bit of a light hearted one. I was in a bit of a rush this week, so I’ve got a light hearted video.

 

So if you’ve got ten minutes to kill and you want to laugh, that’s up as well. It’s about Lauren Southern. So I look forward to seeing you same time next month and hopefully before then.

 

And as I said, I’ll be back on Wednesday. Thank you to everyone. Thank you to Dave, thank you to Bill, thank you, Sally, thank you to Natty, and thank you to everyone who tuned in, everyone who donated so generously. Thank you so much! Have a great weekend, have a great evening. Good night, everyone. I’ll see you all again soon.

 

Dave Gahary: Thanks, Mark.

 

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MagicManintheSky
45 seconds ago
I have a copy of this absolutely brilliant book. It is easy to read and full of surprises to those who have been spoon-fed the Jewish propaganda narrative of WW2 all their lives.

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@MilosM.
1 hour ago
oh great No Chance will be on the next gaming stream

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@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
Mark Collett video | Shut up Lauren, you Daft Bint!

@dsallen7
1 hour ago
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All political expressiveness is flatulence; censor a fart and it will come back as thunder.
1 hour ago
thank you

@cheflad
1 hour ago
14 Deus Vult

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1 hour ago
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@MilosM.
1 hour ago
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@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
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@MilosM.
1 hour ago

@ReedJohnson
oh great.

@Aunt-Sally
1 hour ago
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Nordic Warrior
1 hour ago
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@CampsLindburgh
1 hour ago
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@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
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DOLO
1 hour ago
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@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
14s for Bill

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
Thanks folks. Till next time.

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
later o/

danzimmons
1 hour ago
thx

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@MilosM.
Mark’s speech on Awakening:

Awakening III 27.4.2024 https://t.co/EThZ8q7y84

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1 hour ago
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DOLO
1 hour ago
Thank you gentlemen.

@MilosM.
1 hour ago
The Death of the West by Pat Buchanan idk if it is any good.

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DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
np brother

@MilosM.
1 hour ago
oh, Mark was in Finland! Cannot wait to hear his impressions.

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DOLO
1 hour ago
Very good all things considered, i would be miserable lol.

@cheflad
1 hour ago
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@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
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danzimmons
1 hour ago
1⃣4⃣8⃣8⃣

Natty
1 hour ago

@DOLO
thanks Dolo, i havnt read that one

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
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@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
Freedom of speech is a precious thing. It should have been part of European nations’ legal constitution. When bad actors are not allowed to monopolize the media, good actors have nothing to fear from allowing (((bad actors))) to spew their lies. You just answer them.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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Nordic Warrior
1 hour ago
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DOLO
1 hour ago
He personally had over 17 hand to hand fights lol

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
by Leon Degrelle

@Zach
1 hour ago
even if Politicians don’t listen to Petitions to release political prisoners they are still helpful.

@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
Jews don’t care about honor. They care about the collective power of the Jewish global nation-in-dispersion. The shame belongs to Churchill for allowing himself to be used against Britain, Germany and the entire White West.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@Zach
That’s greatly appreciated. Thank you for doing so. No worries. We all do what we can, when we can.

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
Campaign In Russia: The Waffen SS on the Eastern Front

@Zach
1 hour ago
but even if you can’t afford to donate theirs other ways to help I’ve also petitioned for Sam Melia and Sven longshanks immediate release.

Natty
1 hour ago

@DOLO
what is the book called? is it burning souls?

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@BillAtheling

danzimmons
1 hour ago
jews who compromised Churchill have zero honor.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@Natty
Indeed. We all do.

@MilosM.
1 hour ago
14 for Sam.

Natty
1 hour ago
i miss sam

@cheflad
1 hour ago
Free Big Sam.

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
Free Sam Melia

DOLO
1 hour ago
Great book sir, thank you.

@cheflad
1 hour ago
Deus Vult.

DOLO
1 hour ago
All his unit seems to do is go in hand to hand combat, it’s crazy.

@ArcadeOutpost
1 hour ago
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@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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@tuer
1 hour ago
interestingly many british vets became catholics

@Zach
1 hour ago

@ReedJohnson
I’m always boosting the stream whenever I can. I’d give money if I could but I don’t have a lot of money. if I had the money I’d be donating but I don’t though I do what I can to help. including boosting the stream and advertising on platforms for mark like YouTube.

@BillAtheling
1 hour ago

@ReedJohnson
cheers mate

DOLO
1 hour ago
Should read Degrelle’s campaign on the western front, it’s incredible.

@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
Britain should have fought on the side of Germany against the USSR. If only alcoholic traitor Churchill had died of cirrhosis of the liver in the 1930s.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@RoryHerbert
You’re welcome.

mb14
1 hour ago
My great grandfather was in Verdun on the right side. he got shot thru the arm.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@BillAtheling
Thank you for all your contributions on Book Club. Always a pleasure. Best of luck.

DOLO
1 hour ago
Big A let the Dunkirk lads go.

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
Thanks for the above link

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jm
1 hour ago
Yes, Zoomer Historian is great !!!

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1 hour ago
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1 hour ago
zoomer historian looks fantastic

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
Zoomer Historian | Do British Veterans Regret Fighting World War 2?

DOLO
1 hour ago
I had a Great Grandad die at the somme as well.

Reginald Collett
1 hour ago

@mb14
6’1

@Zach
1 hour ago
moneys tight for everyone RN.

DOLO
1 hour ago
Bulk buy them mark

danzimmons
1 hour ago

danzimmons
1 hour ago
lol nice Dave

mb14
1 hour ago
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How tall is mrs Mark?

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Patria
https://odysee.com/@DigitalAlexandria:5/Gilgamesh:9

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1 hour ago
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1 hour ago
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mark please Review Joe Haldemans Forever war. and did you ever hear from Jeremy from Kentucky Patrick slattery Co Host about doing a show on PA or RBN.

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1 hour ago

@DOLO
Which audio of Gilgamesh?

mb14
1 hour ago
Hey Mark.

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@tuer
1 hour ago
there was a hate crime in the mall of america, black man throwing a white baby three stories down, that was used race reversed in Wonder Woman 1984 – it’s just what a miss IDF does

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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DOLO
1 hour ago
Typical

@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
No one hates more fervently and maniacally than Jewish supremacists.

DOLO
1 hour ago
Yeah

@UltimateTruth
1 hour ago
They love a false flag!

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago

@Aunt-Sally
Just asking, I had a fox that broke into my chicken pen and killed all of them. My young children were upset for months.

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
NKVD wore SS uniforms when doing the massacre

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
Hellstorm | PA Book Review:

@Aunt-Sally
1 hour ago
no Rory … I usually feed it

Long Knife
1 hour ago

@Natty
… I’m just want to examine the lampshade a little; that’s all … don’t tell me it mysteriously disappeared ?

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
Is the fox after your chickens, Aunt Sally?

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
If you criticize the Shoes you hate the Jews!

Natty
1 hour ago

@LongKnife1934
a black and white photo of a pile of shoes isnt enough for you??? OY GEVALT

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
$3.00
Just over a year ago I was invited to a St. George’s Day dinner at my old regiment. One of the guest speakers was the Ukrainian Ambassador. Needless to say I didn’t attend but it just goes to show how the British Army, the Ministry of Defence and our government are in cahoots with one another.

Long Knife
1 hour ago
it’s ok to demand evidence

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@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
The vanguard

Natty
2 hours ago

@SublimeBraid
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

SublimeBraid
2 hours ago
they’ve dug 666 rabbi holes around the one truth, Jewish Supremacy.

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago

@DOLO
It saddens me that so many are taken in by him

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DOLO
2 hours ago

@UltimateTruth
He was in London on St George day with Isreal flag lmao

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago

@DOLO
I liked how he praised the American Freedom Party, didn’t like what he just said about Patriot Front

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
If it wasn’t for the rigid & sophisticated censorship algorithms Jew elites have set on YouTube, millions more would be wake right now. Their shills & controlled opposition assets (Robinson, Murray, Hopkins, etc) don’t help matters

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
ancient Persia allowed Neahmiah to rebuild their temple. israel likes Idea of Persia. Its why you see the Paivlvo royal line consulted in the news. Today, the blood soaked temple sacrifice probably going thru.

DOLO
2 hours ago
Mark Dice was calling Patriot Front feds today, they are hopeless.

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
well said

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DOLO
2 hours ago
lol

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
(((Nosferatu)))

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
ancient Persia allowed Neahmia rebuild their temple be rebuilt. Today, the blood soaked temple sacrifice probably goung thru

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@Elledee77
2 hours ago
you will all live to see concerning iran, it return to the name PERSIA. SEE trump cyrus coin. israel states they can wirk with Persia.

DOLO
2 hours ago
In the book the, monsters of babylon, he really tries to state how our ancestors have been made to look stupid, and that they were really just as smart as we are, but they just didn’t have access to the updated knowledge that we have in modern times, with modern science.

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
They are expert liars. They always invert the truth. Just look at how they’ve continually gas-lit & lied throughout the period of the Gaza genocide

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
jews and moslems. same thing

Natty
2 hours ago

@LongKnife1934
yeah just like in kuwait, testified to in front of congress……and was exposed as complete horse shit

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
… human nature hasn’t change

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
so real

DOLO
2 hours ago
I actually listened to Gilgamesh the other day, fantastic story.

@tuer
2 hours ago
some people seem to enjoy to hate on germans, ever watched sargoy of akkads video on the Suebi?

Long Knife
2 hours ago

@WhiteLightKnight
… did they take the babies out of incubators before throwing them ? :hyper_troll:

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2 hours ago
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DOLO
2 hours ago
The book was excellent in my opinion, highly recommended.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
The level of brainwashing is astonishing

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
When this book is REQUIRED READING in high schools, youll know America is healed.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
A junior colleague told me of a hospital in Poland he visited. There was a plaque telling of how German soldiers threw babies off the roof. I told him to wake up and think about the German people of today. They are no different and Germans in 1940s were human and would not throw babies off roofs.

@Zach
2 hours ago

@karuppusuriyan
they were Jewish Bolsheviks the ones on top at least.

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
Jewish control of western mass media has been their greatest weapon in terms of conditioning the masses

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
uh, source

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
or stormtroopers from star wars

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
For sure! Tikkun olam. looks great. whoever thought putting talmudic mandates in charge of fixing the world, was a good idea.

@CampsLindburgh
2 hours ago
ordered. look forward to reading

DOLO
2 hours ago

@Darth_Joker
\o

@Zach
2 hours ago
it’s so Ridiculous it should be easy to perceive as blatant propaganda. but many of the Teachers who taught it in school believed it was actually true. my area has a lot of Christian Zionists so I think they were just regurgitating propaganda that they were fed.

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
o/ guys

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2 hours ago
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@tuer
2 hours ago
had I to describe the English in one German word it would be “vermessen”

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@Zach
2 hours ago
being a Former liberal I used to think similar to Aunt Sally obviously not her real name. but similar propaganda here in America the German’s and Japanese Roasting Jewish babies on Bayonet’s. similar to the 40 beheaded babies the same people are claiming what a Cohencidence.

danzimmons
2 hours ago
the intelligence agencies have given billions to the true traitorous scum the reporter’s ie activists sellout pukes

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2 hours ago
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@tuer
2 hours ago
just think about how much more dehumanizing it is to call others cattle/goy by default and compare that to barbarian, infidel or even a rat (which is at least free)

danzimmons
2 hours ago
so clear to even the most gullible fecking normie, or should be

@SkipMeister
2 hours ago
Truth is, this Ukraine war started in similar fashion to German/Poland.

SURIYAN
2 hours ago

@Zach
id rather call them soviets rather than russians

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
moslems and jews. same thing.

@Zach
2 hours ago
oh there was plenty of pillaging and merrymaking of women to put it in a PG way. but it wasn’t the German’s dragging women and underage girls to the barns. it was the so called heroes the Russians and to some degree the Americans.

@tuer
2 hours ago
with the printing press, fertilizers and that car thingie that we shared with the world, it’s kinda stunning what propaganda can achieve

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
…lol

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
it answered all my questions for sure. Diane King and Rizolis recomends if the book sold me

@Elledee77
2 hours ago

@RoryHerbert

The Awakened Saxon
2 hours ago
‘Find a reason to go to war with Germany.’ Letter from King George V to Sir Edward Grey, Foreign Secretary. However when the Foreign Secretary Sir Edward said that the cabinet hadn’t found a justifiable reason to enter the conflict, the King replied: ‘You have got to find a reason, Grey.’

@RoryHerbert
2 hours ago
The bombing of Dresden was clearly a war crime.

DOLO
2 hours ago

@Zach
My mistake. You could always pull a Bowden and whip out the magnifying glass lol

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2 hours ago
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2 hours ago

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2 hours ago

@DOLO
I’m aware this is available on Audio but apparently the fall of Western man isn’t.

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
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@SerenaJB
2 hours ago
Good evening.

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago

@Zach
Indeed. That would be a good idea.

Natty
2 hours ago

@WhiteLightKnight
i cant see it lasting long

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago

@Natty
Nice one. I am hooked to his stuff.

DOLO
2 hours ago

@Zach
https://odysee.com/@DigitalAlexandria:5/MythOfGermanVillany:8

@Zach
2 hours ago

@ReedJohnson
I’m sure it’s a good read but unfortunately because of my eyesight I won’t be able to enjoy it. hopefully someone can make it available in a Audio Format for people with Vision problems.

Natty
2 hours ago

@WhiteLightKnight
was going to plug him at the end of the stream

@tuer
2 hours ago
ZH’s video on british vets is dope

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2 hours ago
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@Elledee77
2 hours ago
heres the cazm of America and Europe ww 2. When my Dad met my mother here in America, 50s, he told her he was a nazi. her ww2 info from America, caused that news to scare her.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
On youtube there is a mind-blowing content creator callled Zoomer Historian. His playlist of AH is absolutely incredible.

@Zach
2 hours ago
what I find aggravating is how the Jewish plot to kill millions of German’s by Jews. by poisoning the water is covered up by the media and on the rare occasions it’s talked about the Jews are portrayed as the Victims acting in self defense. a blatant lie but stupid people believe it.

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@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
This book is fantastic. It’s such a great gateway to give to the Vagues.

@RoryHerbert
2 hours ago
$5.00
My maternal grandfather went ‘over the top’ on the First day of the Somme in 1916 with nearly 800 men whilst serving in the 8th Battalion, King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. He was wounded himself but returned with less than 200 men on that fateful day. Something that he would never talk about.

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago

@Zach
I’m sorry. No, unfortunately.

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
im German Hungarian. my dad was a child in ww 2

@Zach
2 hours ago
I enjoy reading but it’s very hard on my eyes so I’m forced to use audio formats.

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
YES!!!

@Zach
2 hours ago

@ReedJohnson
is marks book available on Audio due to my bad eyesight it’s how I learn from books.

@Elledee77
2 hours ago

@Zach
2 hours ago
the forever wars is available on Audio it’s not an expensive book either although I prefer Audiobooks over reading due to my bad eyesight.

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2 hours ago
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@Elledee77
2 hours ago
and things my dad said. he was a child in Europe during ww 2

Avid Fan
2 hours ago
Sort your mic out Bill, ffs.

danzimmons
2 hours ago
“concentrate” jews

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
let me say, Diane made reference to a vid for zio deprograming. THAT IS A FACT. Deprogramming from what has been puked into the mind if the west makes PERFECT SENSE TO ME. ive dealt with these. My self also. thanks to the Rizoli infos, i made it out.

@BillAtheling
2 hours ago
it’s because I talk like an Italian, even on my own, waving my arms about

@Zach
2 hours ago
but I think Haldeman had unintentionally stumbled onto their plans for the military in the Future and it spooked them to some degree. but then again I can’t see the Future just making an educated guess.

@Zach
2 hours ago
Joe Haldeman that was his name I’ve only read the first book of the series. but I consider the gay parts to be a Warning of the Future of America rather than LGBT Propaganda. especially considering how his book was attacked by the media not to the extent of a WN book would be.

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
“big tiddy goth girls needed, stat”

danzimmons
2 hours ago
steady your mic cord Bill

@tuer
2 hours ago
so basically our hope should rest on the chinese avenging the opium shame

@EndJewishPrivilege
2 hours ago
I can hear what sounds like a stapler

danzimmons
2 hours ago
lol

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
the code is “send more beer”

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
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@WingITprod
2 hours ago
Morse code

Long Knife
2 hours ago
Finally, England, through the Balfour Declaration, took over the safeguarding of Jewish interests in all states. The Frankfurter Zeitung knew exactly at the time what it was saying when it declared that the Balfour Declaration had been the yeast of English victory.” ~ Alfred Rosenberg

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
yep! their walk and talks are awesome.

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
microphone is clicking

Long Knife
2 hours ago
It had allowed the opium trade to fall increasingly into Jewish hands. The Jew Lord Reading, whose real name was Isaacs, took care of important loan negotiations with the United States of America.

Long Knife
2 hours ago
It had handed over control of all financial transactions to Jewish bankers such as Rothschild, Montague, Cassell, Lazards, and the rest.

Long Knife
2 hours ago
“Before and during the World War, Jewish high finance had declared that its policy coincided with the policy of Great Britain. England had conquered South Africa for the Jewish diamond dealers such as Lewis, Beith, Lewisohn, and the rest.

@Zach
2 hours ago

@Natty
he was attacked by the Media back in the day as being anti gay. I’m familiar with the Future soldiers being gay and Lesbian but back in the 70s when he wrote the book. his critics said that will never happen mate now look at the state of the military.

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
Rizoli walk and talk are great

danzimmons
2 hours ago
Bill hold your mic cord please

@Thor’sHammer
2 hours ago
It was not for nothing that the German Emperor was known as the Emperor of Peace in World War 1

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ive followed the Rizolis since 2014-2015. It was amazing to see Diane King and Rizolis contributions in credits! too.

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YES!! THATS what i lived about it. it goes back to Germany becoming a nation, ww 1. And it provided photo DOCUMENTS

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, i thought it was just a boring version of starship troopers but its been a long time so i might re-visit it, dont they end up in a future where everyone is gay and brown??

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the Forever wars is a good read it’s a 3 part series I believe. even though it’s Fiction the writer was a Veteran of the Vietnam War. and is a great anti war book discussing how wars only benefit the Rich. of course he doesn’t talk about who the Rich benefiting from wars are but it’s a good read.

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the racist German stereotype its created by Jews from the propaganda machine Hollywood

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Part 01 — Cover text; About the Author; Preface; Chapter 1: The Myth of Germany as an Evil Nation

Part 02 — Chapter 2: Aftermath of the War in Germany

Part 03 — Chapter 3: The Jewish Factor in the War

Part 04 — Chapter 4: The Russian Revolution of 1917

Part 05 — Chapter 5: The Red Terror

Part 06 — Chapter 6: The Bolshevik Revolution Spreads Throughout Europe

Part 07 — Chapter 7: The Nation of Israel

Part 08 — Chapter 8: Jews in Weimar Germany

Part 09 — Chapter 9: Hitler and National Socialists Rise to Power

 

 

Part 10 — Chapter 10: National Socialism vs Communism

Part 11 — Chapter 11: Jews Declare War on Nazi Germany

Part 12 — Chapter 12: The Nazis and the Zionists Actually Work Together for Jewish Emigration out of Germany

Part 13 — Chapter 13: Life in Germany Under Hitler

Part 14 — Chapter 14 & 15: Hitler Begins Reclamation of German Territory; The 1936 Olympics

Part 15 — Chapter 16: “Anschluss” The Unification of Austria and Germany

Part 16 – Chapter 17: Germany Annexes the Sudetenland

Part 17 – Chapter 18: War with Poland

Part 18 – Chapter 19: The Phony War

 

 

Part 19 – Chapter 20: Germany invades France – The Phony War Ends

Part 20 – Chapter 21: The Allied Goal? Destruction of Germany!

Part 21 – Chapter 22: Germany as Victim

Part 22 (last) – Chapter 23: Winners and Losers

 

 

 

See also:

 

The Myth of German Villainy: Author Ben Bradberry Interview — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

 

 

 

The World’s First Anti-Holocaust Convention — Instauration Dec, 1979

An Open Letter to New Jersey’s Governor

Historians or Hoaxers?

House of Orwell

Misha: Surviving with Wolves or …

Bradley Smith’s Smith Report # 1

The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies

The Plum Cake

 

 

 

Auschwitz: Myths and Facts

Powers and Principalities XI – Ewen Cameron, MK-Ultra, Holocaust Revisionism — TRANSCRIPT

Tales of the Holohoax – A Historian’s Assessment – Part 1

The Holocaust Lie — Made in America

Probing the Holocaust: The Horror Explained — TRANSCRIPT

Jim Rizoli Interviews Prof Robert Faurisson, Oct 2015 — TRANSCRIPT

Holocaust Eyewitnesses: Is the Testimony Reliable?

Alain Soral – My Homage to Robert Faurisson, Oct 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Inside Auschwitz – You’ve never seen THIS before! — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

Amazion Bans 100s of Holocaust Revisionist Books!

AUSCHWITZ – A Personal Account by Thies Christophersen

Jim Rizoli Interviews Bradley Smith — TRANSCRIPT

London Forum – Alfred Schaefer – Psychological Warfare – TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report Interviews Eric Hunt — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio – Germar Rudolf – Persecution of Revisionists & Demographic Disaster – Part 1— TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio: Nicholas Kollerstrom — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice TV – Ingrid Carlqvist – Scandal in Sweden When Ingrid Questions the Unquestionable — TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report with Carolyn Yeager on Johnson vs Anglin debate — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

 

 

911 – The Jews Had Me Fooled: A Jewish Engineered Pearl Harbor

Organized jewry Did 9/11

Organized jewry Did 9/11 — The 16th Anniversary, 2017

Know More News — Christopher Bollyn, The Man Who Solved 9/11 — TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report with Christopher Bollyn – Sep 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Guns and Butter interviews Christopher Bollyn — The War on Terror – Dec 18, 2019 — Transcript

AE911Truth – Exposing Those Who Covered up the Crime of the Century – May 28, 2023 – Transcript

 

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Jim Rizoli: Hi, everyone. Jim Rizoli here in communist Massachusetts with Monika Schaefer today. Actually, I still get confused, where you’re living.

 

Monika Schaefer: I’m in British Columbia, the westernmost province of Canada.

 

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay, so she’s in British Columbia. And today we’re going to have a nice discussion because Monika published a book! Isn’t this exciting? And so we’re going to talk about that I’m going to show you the book on the Barnes Review site, and we’re going to talk to her about how she came to the conclusion to write this book. And then I’m going to show you some other things, too, when we do a share screen. So we’ll go from there. How’s that?

 

Monika Schaefer: Perfect.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay. So, Monika, let’s talk about your book that you wrote. What’s the name of your book?

 

 

Monika Schaefer: It has the same title as the video that kind of started this whole firestorm going, you could call it. It’s called “Sorry, Mom. I was Wrong about the Holocaust”.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay, very good. All right, I’m going to go to the share screen right now, and I’m going to see if I can pull up the site, which I hope I can do here. Here it is here. Can you see that, Monika?

 

Monika Schaefer: I do. I see it. Yes.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay, so here is the book, and it’s being published by Barnes Review. All right. And that’s the cover of the book.

 

 

Monika Schaefer: That’s right. If you scroll down a little bit, you’ll see the rest of the cover because it doesn’t show the author on your screen.

 

Jim Rizoli: Oh, yeah.

 

Monika Schaefer: There you go and then there’s a little description there. I think that’s what appears on the back cover. And just to let you know, Jim, I don’t actually have the book physically in my hand yet because the mail is very slow. And I’m getting it from the Barnes Review, too, right? Like they published it. It’s not printed here in Canada. It’s printed in the United States. So I’m still awaiting my shipment.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay, so this is the site, folks. I’ll put the link on the site of our video today. So it is the Barnes Review, though.

 

So if you want the Barnes Review anyway, Barnes Review dot org and get in the products page, book page, you’re going to find a book there. And it’s a very reasonable cost, $25, which is good.

 

All right, so now, again, here’s the information I really did know. I guess it’s your family situation here. Maybe you could go over and talk about something on this page here, Monika, about your background and your life, how you came about in life.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, well, my parents, they were born and raised in Germany. They were German people, both parents. And like so many other Germans who left Germany in the late 40s, early fifties. And after that, like many, many Germans, ended up in sort of all parts of the world. You know, Germany was flattened in the war there. There was so much destruction there.

 

And my parents immigrated to Canada. Really, it was my dad’s dream, since he was a child, actually, to go to the north, to the Arctic, because he was very interested in the Eskimos, as they were called then. So that was kind of the background to that. That was his lifelong dream, actually.

 

So it actually had less to do with with the war and devastation than his lifelong dream to go to the Eskimos in northern Canada. But before he left Germany, he met my mom and fell in love. And so she came, followed him a year later. That was in the early fifties.

 

And then they had five children. I’m the fourth of five, and where do you want to go from there?

 

Jim Rizoli: Well, that’s good. We just get kind of a background. So now we’ll move up to where your problems started. [chuckling] Okay. Think about it. You’re German now, you’re living in the country, in Canada, and you’re German and obviously you had some problems living there, right? Being German.

 

[04:52]

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, you mentioned that you’re going to show the video and so I won’t go into the story because that little six minute video actually tells it in a nutshell.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay, well, let’s get to the video right here. Okay. Let me pull it up. It’s on the BitChute channel for people that want to find it. It’s easy to find. Just put Monika Schaefer. It will come up.

 

But anyway, here’s the video. Let’s take a look. Let’s see how this works. Okay, so there you are. All right. And I’ll put it up so you can see it. All right, let’s play the video of Monika. What year was this?

 

Monika Schaefer: 2016. I did this video, and I was in Germany. I was visiting my brother Alfred, Alfred Schaefer. He has been living, he’s reverse migrated, so he went to Germany and ended up staying there. And I think he went something mid 80s. So he’s been there for decades and so he’s like a reverse immigration, right?

 

Jim Rizoli: All right, so let’s play the video and then we’ll talk about this a little bit later. All right.

 

 

Hello I’m Monika Shafer. I was born and raised in Canada, first generation Canadian citizen of German heritage. My parents both came from Germany. They immigrated to Canada in 1951 and ‘52, respectively. There was a bit of a disconnect between what I experienced in the home life and what I felt outside the home.

I love the rich German traditions and culture that I grew up with and yet, I felt ashamed of my Germanness when I was at school, or outside with my friends. I learned very quickly to hide my heritage. It started in the first week of school. Day one, I wore my beautiful little dirndl, a traditional German dress and on day two, children were taunting me:

“Oh you forgot to take off your apron! Ha ha ha!”

 

As they were running away, or:

“Heil Hitler! Ha ha!”

 

Again taunting me.

I didn’t exactly know the meaning of that, but I knew it was not friendly. They were being cruel. That was very clear to me.

I’m reminded, just now, of the plight of the indigenous peoples of North America. They were also made to be ashamed of their culture.

I would like to share with you now a deep regret that I have for something which I would like to apologize to my parents for, but cannot, because they are no longer alive. Many years ago, I reproached my mother. You see I had been thoroughly indoctrinated as we all were. The stories seemed to be all around us, in school, in television in the very air, and the evilness of Adolf Hitler was as deep and diabolic as imaginable.

I said to her, to my mother:

“Why didn’t you, your friends, your folk, your family. Why didn’t you do something to stop these bad things from happening! Stop Hitler and stop these death camps! You should have done something! You must have known!”

I was really upset, my reproach was bitter. She listened and she paused and very quietly and in a sad tone of voice, she said:

“We didn’t know about any of that. We just did not know. We did not hear about anything like that!”

Well, now I know why she did not know. It is, because these things did not happen! It is only since the last couple of years, since about 2014, that I have begun to understand that this is the biggest and most pernicious and persistent lie in all of history! Everything has been turned upside down on its head!

Yes, there were detention camps. Nobody denies that there were camps! And yes, the prisoners were kept against their will. Again, nobody denies that. But these were work camps. The prisoners of the camps were being kept as healthy and as well fed as was possible in those terrible war years. They needed to be kept healthy. How else could they perform the work? It was war.

And so the camps were basically armaments factories. And how much sense does it make, by the way, to have a hospital in a death camp? There were no gas chambers there. The only gas that was used was to get rid of the lice! Lice carried typhus and typhus was a deadly and rampant disease. So they had to delouse the clothing to keep the people healthy.

Now, why would they do that if the goal was to just exterminate the Jews? Makes no sense. That is the “Six Million Lie”, as I know like to call it in a nutshell.

There is so much more to learn about this and this is all readily available now in 2016 thanks to the digital age with, or without the “thought laws”.

Back to my family. What a relief it is for me to learn that my parents and grandparents were not part of a people that suddenly became monsters overnight! The reproach which I directed at my mother, I wish I could apologize to her for this. I am, in effect, apologizing to her now, to her spirit.

I would like to invite you to find out more by searching the following titles that had such a meaningful and healing influence on me.

Thank you.

 

 

 

[11:52]

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay, so there you have it. That was very good, Monika. [chuckling] Okay, so now that started it all.

 

Monika Schaefer: That did start all, and actually more precisely at minute two and 45 seconds. Two minutes and 45 seconds in, that changed my life, because that’s where I said:

 

“These things didn’t happen.”

 

Jim Rizoli: That’s right.

 

Monika Schaefer: Simple statement. [chuckling] These things didn’t happen.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay, so now let’s get back to your book. Okay, so now when did you start thinking about the book?

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, actually, while I was in prison, I think that I thought about it that:

 

“Wow, if I ever write a book, this is going to be in it!”

 

Or:

 

“If I ever write a book, that’s going to be in it!”

 

Because I was kind of just filled with stories in prison of what I was observing.

 

So the book is not about all those other things, stories that I gathered in prison about other prisoners, that was most interesting, I’m telling you. But there is some stuff in the book about my prison experiences.

 

But I guess it was in prison, probably people wrote me letters, too, and some people suggested:

 

“Jeez, you really should be writing a book.”

 

Or they would ask me:

 

“So, are you writing your book?”

 

The seed was planted to actually write and to document all this.

 

And then I had some really good encouragement after I got out to write this book. Have you ever heard of Katana?

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah, I don’t know whatever happened to him? Whatever happened to him?

 

Monika Schaefer: Well he’s still active. Okay, so you go to the website, katana17 dot com. I think maybe you could try that out and see. But this fellow, he really supported me and encouraged me, and I would encourage people to go to his website. He does transcripts of videos.

 

Jim Rizoli: I remember we used to communicate, and I think Diane did you used to work with him, too, on doing video?

 

Diane King: The transcription of the interviews with the League of Extraordinary Revisionists.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah.

 

Diane King: And I haven’t heard from him for quite a while.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah.

 

Monika Schaefer: And it’s a really great service, what he does. That’s his big contribution to our struggle. And he has very good reasons. Somewhere on his website, he kind of gives an introduction of why he feels that transcriptions are important. It’s another way of preserving some really important stuff. And you can actually print off a transcription and you can read it, it’s in hard copy. So that if things go down and the Internet goes down, or what you still have it.

 

Jim Rizoli: Well, let me bring up his website. Okay.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, that would be great.

 

Jim Rizoli: Let me see if I can do this. I got to get out of this. Oh, boy. Sometimes it’s hard for me to figure this stuff out. I don’t know if I’m going to be able to do this. I got to make this smaller. Okay, so his site is Katana 17.

 

Monika Schaefer: Try that out and you should get it. I think it’s com. I should have looked that up. Yeah, you see a bunch of different things there. There you go. There’ an Overview. Try that. Yeah.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay. Hold on. I’m checking right there. Let’s see if this is it.

 

Monika Schaefer: Because I know he got taken down off the Internet. That was a couple of years ago by now, maybe.

 

Jim Rizoli: Is this him? Yeah, this must be him.

 

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh, yeah.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay. So I got the site Katana17 dot com.

 

[15:44]

 

Monika Schaefer: I’m sure there’s an intro about this blog, and then there’s going to be.

 

 

 

Jim Rizoli: Oh, that’s cool! I’ll have to save this.

 

Monika Schaefer: He’s got a ton of good stuff on his website.

 

Jim Rizoli: So he basically helped you kind of get into this.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, he really helped me starting out and encouraged me all along the way and just supporting me in my endeavor to write a book. He gave me some really good advice of how to go about it. He said things like, don’t worry about the chronology. Just write pieces as they come to you. Later you can put it into an order. Like just some really, really good advice. That’s just one example of some really good advice.

 

So that’s what I ended up doing. I would just write bits like this would be like a chapter or whatever, and then just preserve that, and then write another bit just as you get inspired to write about this piece or that piece and then later put it together.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah. I mean, look at all these articles!

 

 

Monika Schaefer: He’s fantastic! So I’m really glad you’re highlighting. There’s some transcripts there. Jim Rizoli interviews Bradley Smith, … Fred, …

 

 

Jim Rizoli: Fred [Leuchter]. Wow!

 

Monika Schaefer: So that’s great. Lots of transcripts. There’s the story, Mom transcript, I just saw it going by on your screen. Yeah, he did that right away. Like, as soon as that Sorry Mom, I was Wrong about the Holocaust video. And I mean, Alfred and I were contacted by all kinds of people that we had never heard of before that video kind of went viral, you could say. Jim, that term, video went “viral”.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah.

 

Monika Schaefer: And so he did a transcript of that it’s a very short video, so that he’s done transcripts of really long videos. So that that one would have been relatively fast for him to do. And he did. And then yeah, it’s fantastic what he does.

 

Jim Rizoli: So all these are just transcripts. You can read them?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Jim Rizoli: Wow!

 

Monika Schaefer: And I think he does have people that help him out.

 

Jim Rizoli: This is incredible! People don’t realize how much work goes into doing this. [chuckling]

 

Monika Schaefer: It’s fantastic! Oh, yeah. It’s a ton of work. A ton of work!

 

Jim Rizoli: Wow!

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. Shout out, a shout out to, …

 

Jim Rizoli: I’m glad you brought this here.

 

Monika Schaefer: And I received postcards from him in jail, and they were anonymous. Everybody contributes in a different way, and some people, by their own reasons, they are not showing their face, a name like you and I are. But that’s fine. We need all these people on board, like, for whatever reason. Maybe they have small children or maybe this or that, but they contribute. So I put a big shout out to Katana right now.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay, well, I’m glad, because now people will be able to see his site.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, it’s good to draw attention to good works like that. So thanks for doing that.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay. How many pages is your book?

 

Monika Schaefer: Just over 300, but that would include, …

 

Jim Rizoli: That’s a good size.

 

Monika Schaefer: So there’s a picture section and stuff like that too, photographs. I don’t think it’s a hard read. It’s not a technical book at all. It’s about my experiences, and I want people who are maybe just have their eyes just a little tiny bit open and are willing to perhaps open their eyes more, to draw them in. I feel like I’m just an ordinary person. I’m a normal person. I’m not some big academic, …

 

Jim Rizoli: You’re not a David Irving.

 

Monika Schaefer: No, that’s right, I’m not a David Irving. Who is this historian who has spent a lifetime to study history. No, I’m an ordinary person that then figured out, like, everybody has their awakening story. How did they learn about the fact that we are actually being lied to?

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah.

 

Monika Schaefer: On a massive scale, not just little things. Right? And for me, my the key to My Awakening was 9/11. And it was later it was ten years after 9/11, so really, I’m just quite new to this. And then I went down the proverbial rabbit hole. And I know that you have a different awakening story. Yours started with the immigration thing. Right? And then I find your awakening story super interesting.

 

Jim Rizoli: Well, it was weird! [chuckling]

 

Monika Schaefer: Ernst Zundel. Had to do with, oh, why is this White man being extradited?

 

Jim Rizoli: I just couldn’t figure that one out. It was just a fluke! All of a sudden. It’s like, “Ahh!”

 

Monika Schaefer: Exactly. I’m always interested in people’s awakening stories, and people come to these realizations in all kinds of different ways. Some people through figuring out that the banking system is all totally corrupt. Other people through reading the Bible very carefully. I had people writing me letters, and many of them, it had happened that way.

 

Anyway, so this book is basically about “My Awakening”.

 

And then this journey of this video and the firestorm it caused, and then the aftermath of it. And the aftermath. I mean, it became a very interesting story, and I would not trade that part of my life away for anything! Even though it was very shocking to be suddenly arrested and put into jail.

 

It was very shocking. And it was difficult in the beginning, I have to say. But once I let go of certain things that just let go, I came to a good place. This thing keeps falling out of my ear. And then I started to just actually just enjoy it.

 

[21:46]

 

Jim Rizoli: Well, you know what’s weird about it Monika? What’s weird is they came after you! And, like, usually it happens this way. You publish a book and then they come after you.

 

Monika Schaefer: Right!

 

Jim Rizoli: Yours is just the opposite. Here you are, just minding your own business and just a normal person just giving an opinion that’s right about something, and look what happened here. What the heck is going on here?

 

Monika Schaefer: They put me on the map. Like, nobody knew, who the heck are you? And then all of a sudden, I’m in jail! So I’m a political prisoner.

 

Now when you become a political prisoner, those people in the world who are, … We network with each other. They, our enemy, likes to make us look like we’re all isolated, we’re all by ourselves, because they want to demoralize us and discourage us. And they try to make us think that we’re just lone nut cases here and there that have these weird, nut-case beliefs!

 

And no, we talk to each other. We’re connected. So then, of course, my name kind of went around the world. Of course, I didn’t go and knock on the door and want to go to jail.

 

But in the end, they kind of did us all a favor, because they highlighted this. And many people did tell me that that little video that you just showed enabled them to, for example, if they’re trying to talk to family members about this history. And many people told me that my video made a difference. Like, then finally they were able to show their mother or their brother or their friend, show them that video and get them to open their eyes just a little bit and maybe get them to look a little bit.

 

And this is my hope that to this book, it’s not about ego. It’s not about me! Yes, it’s my story. But it is about this bigger picture, Jim. It is about what you and I and many, many other people are, it’s like our life mission to awaken people to what is going on.

 

Jim Rizoli: I think people they have to see that’s why I put the video up, because I’m saying now, this woman went to jail because of this video! I mean, you people watching this, if you’re jews, whoever you are, she went to jail. I mean, really!

 

There are people that murder people that get away with it, that don’t go to jail. They get off, and they murder people. We have people that extort billions of dollars from people. They don’t go to jail. But she went to jail!

 

And I don’t think people understand. I would love to have a discussion with a jew right now, like sitting down, me, a jew, and saying:

 

“What do you think about her going to jail for this video? Do you think that was right?”

 

I would just love to just see what they would say! I know, it just oh, it just infuriates me when these jews can sit back, because some of them will say, :

 

“Well, she deserved to go to jail!”

 

Monika Schaefer: Absolutely!

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah. They’re going to love it. They love it!

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. And actually, you know what the most bizarre thing that I found of people saying to me, like, in Jasper, in my own hometown?:

 

“Look, see, that’s proof that you’re guilty. You went to jail. That’s proof. That proves it. You’re guilty. And this proves that the Holocaust happened because you went to jail for it!”

 

Isn’t that kind of a perverse?

 

[25:22]

 

Jim Rizoli: No, I see there’s a lot of people that go to jail, and they’re innocent, and then you’ll be talking to somebody and they’ll say:

 

“Wow, the court found him guilty!”

 

And it’s like:

 

“Yeah, but they were innocent! Well, the court found him guilty!”

 

Monika Schaefer: Exactly!

 

So this is a very odd way of thinking! Because, look, just think about it. I actually love the way Alfred describes these laws. They’re just blots of toner on paper. That’s what these laws are. They’re man made. They’re blots of toner on paper. And what is the meaning of them? Now, if these laws, if you are having to legislate a piece of history! This is not about we have what you would call common law, and we have rights, god given rights, and common law. Like things that it makes sense that there are certain things we should not do. So it makes sense that we have laws like, we shouldn’t just go with a sledgehammer and clobber a neighbor over the head for no reason. Right. That’s not a good thing to do.

 

So, yeah, there’s Laws. Those laws make sense. Now, how much sense does it make to make a law about history? History, something happened, or it didn’t happen. This is in the past. These are facts.

 

And then they make a law to enshrine their story into, like, what!

 

Jim Rizoli: Know what’s really strange about it? Here’s what really bothers me about this. Now remember, the courts are there to find out what’s right or wrong, but the courts now have become, it’s called, they take “judicial notice” now, on what they can determine was is historical.

 

I mean, think about a court system on what is historical. So now when it comes to the Holocaust topic, the first thing they’ll say in a case in Germany is:

“Well, we can’t talk about the facts of the Holocaust, because we have taken ‘judicial notice’ that the Holocaust is a historical fact, and we cannot question those facts.”

 

I mean, this is just hard to believe!

 

Monika Schaefer: It is. They started with that, right, in the Nuremberg Trials, right after World War II, the articles 19 and, 21 of the Nuremberg Trials. There are procedures there. That’s what they said, that if something is self evident, you don’t need evidence to, … Basically they were giving that judicial notice, which is, … Okay, so judicial notice, you could give judicial notice about something, …

 

Jim Rizoli: That they could do it with the vaccine. They could say:

 

“Oh, the vaccine is safe, it’s been proven safe. We’re taking judicial notice.”

 

They do it. They do it!

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. They do these things which is bizarre and obscene. But I think the original intent of “judicial notice” is something like snow is cold, like something that you don’t have to prove.

 

Jim Rizoli: Like the earth is round. They’ll say that. We’ll take judicial notice. And it’s like, I don’t really care whether it’s round or flat, it don’t matter to me!

 

But when you’re telling me what to believe, like, we’ll take a judicial notice, there is a God, or there isn’t a God.

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, yeah, actually, I would just say those are probably not good examples because they’re not something that is hard. Like maybe judicial notice that this is a cup and we’re just going to agree that this is a cup. Okay? So that would be something that you don’t have to prove that this is a cup and it contains liquid in it. You know what I mean? These are things that you can prove.

 

Whereas the example you gave, well, those are big disputable items. People are disputing. Some people are staunch atheists and some people not. I have faith, and I’m grateful for that, but it’s like yeah, anyway, that’s another topic.

 

Jim Rizoli: The court system really shouldn’t be getting into historical information. It’s not their position, …

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, the point is, like, when you start talking about judicial notice and this is what they’re doing about the “Holocaust” is they prevent evidence from being brought forward. So if we could not present evidence that would support our position or explain how we reached our conclusions, and in fact, my brother Alfred, his prison sentence was lengthened due to the things that he said in our trial in 2018.

 

So he faced the Inquisition again in 2019 for things that he said and did during our trial! And the judge had stopped him many times when he was speaking and said:

 

“Well, I got to stop you there. I can just give you a warning that if you continue along those lines of speaking where you’re going right now, I’m just giving you a warning that it’s dangerous ground. We can press new charges.”

 

And he would wave them off or he would listen. He’d let the judge finish his sentence and then he said:

 

“Well, you are wanting to throw me in jail for 6 million years anyway. And I’m just speaking the truth!”

 

[30:57]

 

Jim Rizoli:[chuckling] Let’s just go back to your trial. Okay? You’re standing there. Okay. Now, you were accused of what, actually?

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, this Paragraph 130. So German Criminal Code, Paragraph 130 is their “Holocaust” law, but the word “Holocaust” doesn’t even appear in it. But it is the Holocaust denial law.

 

I mean, this whole word “denial” is kind of crazy because you can’t really technically, you can’t deny something that didn’t actually happen. In German that’s actually more clear. The word “leugnen” now is denier, but language has different nuances, and there you cannot deny something that didn’t happen.

 

And Ursula Haverbeck, whose name probably many of your viewers will be familiar with, this is this 94 year old woman who was being put back into jail for asking questions, inconvenient questions, about World War II history. Anyway, how they get around that in Germany, because they know that you can’t deny something that didn’t happen, but they read our minds, okay?

 

So they will say:

 

“She knows, or he knows, that the Holocaust happened, and yet she or he denies it!”

 

Which that’s how they get around us. So they pretend to read our minds and then call us a liar, or call us like:

 

“We’re a denier now, because we know, like Alfred Schaefer knows that the Holocaust happened, but he just is so full of hate that he denies that it happened!”

 

You know what I mean? This is how they do it.

 

I mean, they wrote an article in the newspaper in the main Zeitung, which is a big newspaper in Germany, about Alfred Schaefer.

 

Jim Rizoli: Now, you’re in court standing there. How long did it take for this case to do?

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, yeah, four months. But over the four month, 200 days. 20 trial days. So you don’t go to the court every day. They’ll have a couple of days here, then the next day, next week or whatever, then they have a break for they go on holidays, whatever. So it took four months, but it was 20 trial days.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay, but are you in jail at the time?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. So I was in jail for six months before the trial even started!

 

Jim Rizoli: Oh my goodness!

 

Monika Schaefer: Because they kept me due to flight risk. So when they arrested me, then I had to go before a judge the next day because they have to bring you before a judge within 24 hours of arresting you to determine what they do with you and I wasn’t even in the jail yet. I was in the prison cell in a police station until they determined that:

 

“No, they can’t let me go, because if they let me go, I’m going to run away, and I’ll be out of their clutches.”

 

Because they knew, okay, I live in Canada, right? So I could just fly back to Canada. And they don’t have these laws here.

 

Jim Rizoli: Let’s just deal with court hours, okay? How many hours do you think they devoted to you?

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh, lots! Some days were shortened because these things, how they go in court. I mean, it’s just unbelievable how much time and money they waste if something didn’t arrive, or some witness didn’t arrive. And yet that was all that was on the agenda, …

 

Jim Rizoli: And you had to pay a lot, …

 

Monika Schaefer: But other days were really long. Like other days went beginning to end. Sorry, what was your question?

 

Jim Rizoli: No, you had a lawyer, right? Is that what happened?

 

Monika Schaefer: I did. And I had the lawyer who was also the same lawyer who had been Ursula Haverbeck’s Lawyer, and the same lawyer who was Sylvia Stoltz’s Lawyer.

 

The day that I got arrested, I got arrested in the courthouse, but we were in the public gallery. Somebody spotted me there. I didn’t know that they had a file open on me. Nobody wrote me a nice letter. Neither of my relatives, who basically reported us to the authorities. They didn’t write me a letter saying, yeah, we reported you to the authorities, and that would mean that a file gets opened on you.

 

[35:03]

 

Jim Rizoli: Now, if you didn’t go to court that day, would they have arrested you?

 

Monika Schaefer: I don’t know.

 

I mean, I suppose they could have at the airport, but I got into the country, no problem. I don’t know.

 

Jim Rizoli: When you went to the court, to them it was [chuckling] like:

 

“Oh, says the spider to the fly.”

 

Right?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. We went to the court to watch this trial of Sylvia Stoltz.

 

I mean, this is all very interconnected, all these political dissidents. I just thought, I wanted to meet her. For one thing, she was my hero. And that’s a whole another topic. We could talk at length about that, but just for now, just stay on topic here.

 

I was so intensely curious:

 

“What does a speech crime trial look like?”

 

It did not, … I mean, people might on the outside say:

 

“Well, that’s pretty stupid to go!”

 

But I didn’t think of anything, I really didn’t.

 

Jim Rizoli: So here you are, you’re in court watching something else happen, okay? And you’re sitting there, just minding your own business, and then what happens?

 

[36:10]

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, they called a recess about 40 or 45 minutes into her case that was rolling along. And nobody knew why they called this recess. It was very puzzling because it was just in the middle, for no reason at all, it seemed.

 

But then we discovered the reason. They had whispered behind closed doors:

 

“She’s in the gallery. She’s in the public gallery. Let’s get her now.”

 

So then we all step out to the corridors just to talk. There’s a throng of us who are in the public gallery, people who are supporting Sylvia Stoltz, and we’re just talking.

 

And then this woman just swoops over to me, says:

 

“What’s your name?”

 

And just innocently and naively, I just said:

 

“Oh, Monika.”

 

I mean, I didn’t need to say a word, but I wasn’t thinking of any, … I didn’t have any suspicions of anything. And then it all changed. Then she drew attention while she’s talking to these three thugs, uniformed police officers, or whatever they were. And:

 

“That’s her! Arrest her! That’s Monica Schaefer!”

 

Oh, okay, now I get it. [chuckling] Oh, my goodness!

 

Jim Rizoli: It’s incredible! This is incredible!

 

Monika Schaefer: I’m laughing now, but I wasn’t laughing at the time.

 

Jim Rizoli: Think about it. You’re in court watching something. You’re getting arrested because of a thought crime!

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, it is incredible. Time at that moment slowed down. Everything went in slow motion, and it was an incredible moment. I’ll never forget it.

 

Jim Rizoli: And then they handcuffed you?

 

Monika Schaefer: They did. There was a few things that happened first, and then they basically, … Well, they didn’t handcuff me like this behind my back or anything, but they handcuffed me to the prison ward, or the officer, the police thug.

 

So then I got taken down into the bowels of the courtroom where they have holding cells. They have holding cells in the basement.

 

Jim Rizoli: What was going through your mind when this was happening?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. Oh, my goodness, Jim. Everything went in slow motion. I remember turning my head when they were leading me away and turning my head and seeing the throng of people standing there, like a group of I don’t know, just all very solemn, standing there, watching me go.

 

It’s like almost like they were watching me being taken to the gallows! And everybody just wow. It was very surreal, actually. It’s kind of making me get goosebumps right now or whatever it is just thinking about that moment and then being led away. It was very strange.

 

Jim Rizoli: So they take you downstairs because you’re in the court now. Right? The courthouse of jail. Same thing.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. In the basement. Just like in any police station, they’ll have holding cells. So in the court house, they have holding cells. And so I got brought down to a holding cell and put in there. A very tiny, tiny space. There was a wooden bench and a table that’s attached to the wall. But not a nice table. Just a tiny little concrete thing or whatever.

 

Yeah. And then I was there for a few hours, and I was kind of counting tiles, and I would pace back and forth. It was like five steps this way. Not even that. Four steps. Maybe three steps.

 

Jim Rizoli: Were you putting it together in your mind what was going on?

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh yeah. They didn’t like my video! [chuckling] I knew that right away!

 

Jim Rizoli: That’s it. This is why people have to understand what’s going on here, folks! That someone could be arrested!

 

Monika Schaefer: Alfred was already on their radar. I knew that. So maybe Alfred should have been more worried about attending.

 

Jim Rizoli: Was he there with you?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. And then, actually, he was advised by my lawyer, who was Sylvia Stoltz’s Lawyer. I think that was who advised me. He said, [to Alfred]:

 

“You better leave now. Don’t hang around.”

 

[40:15]

 

Jim Rizoli: You think they would have arrested him?

 

Monika Schaefer: No. You know why, Jim? Because he already had some charges laid against him. Yeah, he had court dates coming up, or not even solid court dates, but he had already been given charges.

 

He had a dream team. Alfred calls it the Dream Team. They were going to put Gert Ittner, Ursula Haverbeck, Sylvia Stoltz, … No, Henry Hoffmanmeyer was on there, too, and Alfred. Wait a minute, I’ve got one too many there, because there was four of them, I thought. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe it was all five of them in court together.

 

And Alfred was just like, he said:

 

“Wow! They have no idea what they’re doing. This is a dream team. These are powerhouse players here!”

 

But then they changed everything when I was in jail. Because now all of a sudden, there’s pressure to do this more quickly. Because this could have dragged out for years and years for them. They got to put dates, but they all live in Germany, and they were just living at home still. They weren’t flight risk because they live there. I was a flight risk because I don’t live there.

 

So Alfred was already facing stuff. He’d already had his home raided, and that was because of my video in August of 2016. That was the first home invasion. Home invasion, where they came and they knocked on the door. They didn’t pound the door down. But that was the time when, … I have to tell this story, because it’s hilarious. And it’s sort of a number of years ago, so even if people had heard it then, they’ve forgotten it.

 

But they came at about six or seven in the morning and Alfred was in the shower and just out of the shower, actually, but he was in the bathroom behind the closed door and his wife went to the door. And Alfred is listening and he knows right away:

 

“Okay, these are police officers.”

 

Just from what he’s hearing.

 

And so, you know what he did? He came out, he opened the door. He’s still stark naked, and he says:

 

“Hello, what can I do for you? Is there any way can I help you with anything?”

 

It was so fantastic because he didn’t try to hide himself behind a towel. He’s showing, literally, that he has nothing to hide. I thought it was brilliant! And it was quite funny. There was a man and a woman officer, so they quickly, like:

 

“Get dressed. It’s okay, get dressed first.”

 

And a little bit embarrassing for them [chuckling]. But he was just big smile on his face:

 

“Hello, how can I help you?”

 

Jim Rizoli: They handcuffed him?

 

Monika Schaefer: No, what they did then, is it was all very polite. They were polite, but they basically then investigated his home and searched his whole space and took stuff, took computers, they took whatever they could find.

 

And Alfred was saying he was so relieved that he had packed his camera equipment and that particular stuff away before that. He didn’t know they were coming. But he always was neat and tidy. And after he had used his video equipment and all that equipment that was associated with that, he would pack it away neat and tidy. They didn’t take that, they didn’t find it.

 

Jim Rizoli: Wow.

 

Monika Schaefer: Not that he was trying to hide it, they just didn’t find it. Didn’t recognize it for what is all.

 

Jim Rizoli: Was that in your book?

 

Monika Schaefer: That detail, I just told you? No, but yeah, these are just interesting stories. If I had written all the interesting stories, that would have been like thousands of pages long!

 

Jim Rizoli: That’s unbelievable, because really, …

 

Monika Schaefer: It’s true, there are so many interesting stories. Like I was saying to you earlier, just in prison, gathering stories in prison. Oh my goodness! It was just fascinating and entertaining and sometimes funny and sometimes tragic. And it was just really a lot of stories just in prison, a lot.

 

Jim Rizoli: Unbelievable. Now we’ll finish up. But let me just talk about the book. So now you got all your information down, you wrote everything down. Now you said, I’m ready to write a book. So now what was your next step?

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, like I was saying earlier, Katana had kind of advised me on how to do this. Just write things, it doesn’t have to be in order, and then later put it in order. And it took a lot longer than I wanted it to take, Jim. I thought, okay, this would be a good project for a year. [chuckling] That’s kind of funny. I mean, it’s four years in the making, really, because I got out late 2018, 19, 2021, 22, four years.

 

And then there were some hiccups along the way and some yeah, some, …

 

[44:55]

 

Jim Rizoli: So now everything’s done. You got your manuscript, so now you had to decide who’s going to publish it.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, and I’m very grateful to the Barnes Review, good folks there, and I encourage people to actually become subscribers to that fantastic publication.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah, my brother Joe gets it, so I don’t have to get it, but we get it. It’s an excellent magazine.

 

Monika Schaefer: It is, yeah, that’s right.

 

Jim Rizoli: So you got the Barnes Review to do it, and they seem to do an excellent job in publishing your book.

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh yeah. They put it together into, like, I haven’t seen it yet in my hand, but I know it, …

 

Jim Rizoli: No, I understand. Well, that’s a great story. And the reason why I’m talking about the book and Monika is because if there’s other people out there that want to get into publishing a book, it’s good to see that any normal person can publish a book. If you just put your mind, you would get the information out and if you can find the publisher to do it or whatever, however you want to do it. I mean, our books are kind of deal with specific things. It’s not like we’re talking about some topic here, how to grow flowers.

 

But, I mean, the biggest part of publishing a book is getting someone who’s going to publish it.

 

Monika Schaefer: Get somebody to publish and print it. That was another delay. It’s small printer and they had some tragedy happen in their family. So it was a family business, just the printer. Because the Barnes Review doesn’t print. They have a printer, right?

 

I mean, they get somebody else to print. So that was another complication that probably delayed it by a couple of months or three, four months more.

 

Yeah. It’s getting more and more difficult because the eternal well poisoners of this world, they are really clamping down. But they’re in panic mode. We are winning! They’re in their last throws, and they don’t stop until we stop them.

 

So this is, I guess, another message, like, to get out there. But they are on the losing side, really.

 

Jim Rizoli: Well, the thing is, we don’t let up. And it has nothing to do with winning a battle. It just has to do with just getting what you have to do, out.

 

I mean, that’s how I look at it. I don’t look at winning this war. I look at just let’s get as many people online here to see what the truth is. Let them do it, whatever they want to do with it. But I mean, you can’t let them get away with it. That’s the biggest thing.

 

Well, Monika, this has been great. I’m really happy to see that you got the book out there. Hopefully we’ll get people to order it, to read it. If you really want to get into reading good information, especially dealing with your life there and what happened with you, I think it’s going to be great and I hope people take note of it.

 

And again, folks that are watching, we can’t let them win. And it doesn’t matter. We still have to fight to the end of whatever the end is! Just keep fighting and fighting! It doesn’t matter.

 

Monika Schaefer: Never give up! Never give up hope! Never give up. They want us to be hopeless. This is what they try to make us be, living in fear and with hopelessness. That’s what they do to us. But we can never let that happen to us, that we just give up hope. Because then you might as well. Then it’s over, right? If you give up hope, it’s over. And like you say, Jim, keep on going. Don’t give up.

 

Jim Rizoli: Like I said, no surrender! That’s it.

 

Monika Schaefer: No surrender! And I like your little motto of “you’re an army of one”, or something like that.

 

Jim Rizoli: Well, that’s the thing. Like, people say to me:

 

“Well, you don’t got a lot of people behind you.”

 

I’m saying it doesn’t matter! As long as you get one person on your side. You just increased by what, 100%? [chuckling]

 

Monika Schaefer: There’s a huge ripple effect. And also, people should understand and know that we are not this isolated little click like Noam Chomsky tried to tell Alfred [chuckling]! This is in one of his first videos, that’s kind of featured.

 

But anyway, we are many. We are many!

 

Jim Rizoli: Oh, no. I was thinking about my BitChute channel. I’ve only been on it for five years, but I have like over 2400 videos on BitChute, and I’m getting up to 2 million views on BitChute.

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh, that’s fantastic.

 

Jim Rizoli: And and again, that’s nothing compared to people on YouTube and all this and that. But you got to understand, this is BitChute.

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh, yeah. No, I want to take my hat off to you, Jim. You have done a huge service to the world, to us, to the good, the truth!

 

Jim Rizoli: Well, I just feel that if I can use my video skills and what I do, I’m doing here with you, that’s the least I can do. Because as you get older, you just can’t go out and do stuff anymore. But we all try.

 

Monika Schaefer: That’s right. And everybody has different skills and ideas.

 

So it’s going to be different for different people, what you can do. But everybody can do something. Everybody can do something! This is not a spectator game. You participate and everybody can do something.

 

[50:26]

 

Jim Rizoli: Here’s the way they can help you. They can get your book. That helps you. It gets the message out. Okay.

 

Monika Schaefer: And share it with somebody. Win them over.

 

 

Jim Rizoli: That’s right. And then take our video we’re doing now. Like, people say, what can I do to help you?

 

Look at I’m not looking for people’s money. I’m just looking get the message of take this video here, send it to people! Get it out to people! Send it to news people!

 

There is so much people can do, they don’t even know they can do it. You can get into all the newspapers and find out who the editor is and then send them the link to the stories. Say:

 

“You might be interested in this story.”

 

That’s all. Just get it out there! Someone might pick up on it. But you’re going to do something. If you don’t do anything, nothing’s going to get done!

 

On the BitChute channels. If you’re looking at other BitChute’s, post it on their channel, especially if it’s related to the topic of censorship or free speech or Germany or jews or whatever. Just say:

 

“Oh, here’s a new interview with Monika and Jim dealing with this topic.”

 

If you get it on 20 sites, 50 sites, 100 sites, that’s all. If you’re doing this all day, it’s not taking you out of your way to do this. Just put it on their site.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. Another really effective thing, really effective thing is actually leafletting. Like, if you want to create just a small thing that has a few basic facts and then an URL, like a link that they could type into their computer if they want to seek more information. And then actually handing these to people personally, sometimes that is one of the most effective things. That another idea. Just another idea. I like to do that.

 

Jim Rizoli: The normies out there that don’t do video, that don’t write, that are at home reading, looking at websites, reading Internet sites. Whatever you’re doing, you have a tremendous ability to get the message out. And that’s all we have to do, get the message out!

 

And people believe me, they’re going to see it. I have people coming across my stuff in the weirdest ways that:

 

“Oh, I saw it over here. I saw it over there.”

 

And I said:

 

“Wow, I didn’t even know it was over there.”

 

I mean, that’s how you’re going to do it.

 

Okay, Monika. Well, this is great Monika. I really enjoyed this. I mean, I learned a little bit more about what happened with you in court and all that.

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, I enjoyed this, too. Thanks so much, Jim. Thank you for doing this.

 

Jim Rizoli: And we’ll be talking we’ll be doing another chat with you, me and Diane in the future to catch up on what’s going on and other stuff there too, later.

 

Monika Schaefer: Connecting the dots, right? Connect the dots.

 

Jim Rizoli: That’s right. And that’s what we’re trying to do here. Okay, folks, we’ll look at I want to thank everybody for watching. With me is Monika Schaefer, and we’re out there doing the best we can. We hope you can do the best you can, too, by getting the message out there.

 

So, Monika, thank you for being on the show, and we’ll be in touch. We’ll be talking again. Okay?

 

Monika Schaefer: Bye bye.

 

Jim Rizoli: Take care. Bye now.

 

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NeverTooLate86+
Immediately ordered the book.
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bilbob7624
i love when Monika is on.
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FogDogma
Me to, Monika is such a good woman with spunk. I love people who tell the truth even when they are being targeted by evil. Their strength is addicting and gives me hope.
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FogDogma
Jim, thanks so much for posting stuff on Monica and her brother. They are so awesome. They both inspire others to keep on keeping on when all hell breaks loose. They are perfect examples of what our people are capable of when we are targeted for extinction. We fight back and won’t shut up. Love these good people.
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Jeffrey88
Synchronicity. I just ordered two copies. Thank you, Monika!
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DIRTYBOB59
Monika, will you friggin’ MARRY me, please?… (FTJ!…)
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FogDogma
If she accepts, you better be good to her. Treat her like a queen.
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STRIKER_ZWEIFogDogma
he does’nt have the means to make Monika happy. I do.
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Jeffrey88STRIKER_ZWEI
If she marries me she wouldn’t have to change her name.
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STRIKER_ZWEIJeffrey88
if she married me, Monika could always just look into my blue eyes, and know she made the right choice. And I speak fluent German, have German ancestery, and lived there 25 years
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Truth-doesn’t-fear-investigation
I wonder if Monika knows she has so many marriage proposals?
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STRIKER_ZWEITruth-doesn’t-fear-investigation
Probably thousands if not more. Marriage with Monika automatically gets one Alfred as a brother in law. Seriously, its a win win.
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STRIKER_ZWEISTRIKER_ZWEI
theres only 3 ladies I know of that I would marry. Monika, Deanna Spingola, and Dr Lorraine Day.
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Cybergun01STRIKER_ZWEI
Those are some fine ladies.. i wish more women had the passion and ability to speak truth as boldly as they do
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3 months ago

SatanicFakeSpace
Great book title!
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jerockdange
Do you guys know who wrote the Old testament Simon Peter Paul you know who these guys are
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STRIKER_ZWEI
The old testament?
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Gertjan
Christianity is not the religion of Jesus of Nazareth it is a religion invented by Saul of Tarsus who even claimed he was an apostle and yet had never met Jesus face to face. Saul, the jew, saw the light and the ignoratti bought it. Christianity is a religion which makes people into easy slaves for the enemy of all life on Earth; the International Parasite.
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LambofGod1990Gertjan
Misinformed Person. Paul did not teach a Gospel different from Christ’s Gospel.
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GertjanLambofGod1990
you were there, were you? Have you read the Urantia Book? Paul was a, what would now be called, a jew. The law for the jew is, he must lie, cheat, steal, and even kill goyim. Saul changed his name to Paul so he would not sound so, ‘jewish’. Of course you do know that Jesus despised those creatures, albeit they were not called ‘jews’ [show more]
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LambofGod1990Gertjan
Jesus changed the Name of Simon. Does the Urantia Book trace back to Apostolic Times?
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Cybergun01Gertjan
Yet jew subversives have repeatedly tried to undermine the writings of Paul. I wouldn’t buy into the works of Christopher Jon Bjerknes, Adam Green and others like them.. they are deceived, if not deceivers themselves
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LambofGod1990Cybergun01
The two you mentioned seem to believe that the God of the Babylonian Talmud is the same God Jesus calls Father in the Gospels. The Christian God whom Jesus calls Father in the Gospels is not a Transgender Diety who condones the Subjugation, Extortion and the Eventual Elimination of all Gentiles. Bolshevik Jews killed over 70 Million Eastern Europeans including Millions more in China. Mao was funded by Jew Bankers. [show less]
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jerockdange
And because of your judeo-christian beliefs you’ve created a ruling class that cannot be criticized
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bucybeen@gmail.com
who are you addressing ,?
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Truth-doesn’t-fear-investigation
Go away faggot
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LambofGod1990
JudeoChristianity is a Jewish Ploy to make Zionism more palatable to Christians. The Jews hate Jesus with a Passion. Ben Shapiro pushes JudeoChristian nonsense.
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309-b
…. great news, … Monica and Alfred have been leaders in debunking these Jewish lies, … carrying on the tradition of the great Ernest Zundel, …
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Gertjan
Ernst Zundel.
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Known_Crocodilan
The original intent of Jew-dicial notice is not “hey, snow is cold”. Rather, its original intent is a tool of Jewish lies and control. Including and not limited to: the earth is a globe, six million Jews were exterminated in gas chambers, the vaccine is safe, virology is real, etc…
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STRIKER_ZWEI
Jim said, “any normal person can publish a book” Jim, Monika is not a normal person, she is a treasure, and super special.
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Open Our Eyes Jesus
Article 21 of the Statutes at Nuremberg
” The Nuremberg (military) Tribunal shall NOT require PROOF of the facts
LET THAT SINK IN – first time in recorded HISTORY- judges didn’t require actual documentary “proof” to come to (((their))) verdict – that is what came out of Communist controlled “Nuremberg.” of common knowledge, but shall take judicial notice thereof ”
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Wayne101062
And they were not allowed an appeal. What kind of court is that.
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Open Our Eyes JesusWayne101062
It’s a Kosher controlled Communist Court. Tragically the Germans were NEVER allowed to actually present the evidence to prove their innocence of the charges made against them at “Nuremberg”. Germany’s crime was they LOST WW II and have been enslaved ever since by the ruling global Jewish/Zionist Oligarchy. Allied winners wrote how the History is “remembered”.
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Open Our Eyes Jesus
” It is ERROR which needs the support of government.
TRUTH can stand on its own ”
– Thomas Jefferson, Third President of U.S.A
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Open Our Eyes Jesus
Jefferson also said :
” The effect of government coercion is :
to make one half the people fools
and the other half hypocrites,
and to support roguery and error all over the earth” [show less]
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Jim Rizoli
(dkk) “The truth needs no laws, the official holocaust narrative simply is not true… therefore, it is being used to enslave and manipulate humanity, ESPECIALLY the German nation.” Mrs. Ursula Haverbeck
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Calf89
What a amazing Lady.
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Speidini3784
Going to jail for words… why have we let the jooz get this far! Monika you are a very brave woman, thanks
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Jim Rizoli
(dkk) The ‘fix is in’. They had us with the post-WWII nonsense proliferated since then.
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Calf89
You have Jim thanks your great guy my friend thanks again for all you do.
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Fredziffle108
Jim
Here is Miles Power responding to Germar’s book

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Synrgy77
Power is full of shit, dodging and deception. Most of his arguments were already adressed by Holocaust believer and chemist Richard Green by 2000 and brightly refuted by Rudolf with empirical proofs.
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Jim Rizoli
(dkk) always a pleasure, “Fred”!
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JustAintThatWay
T/y the notification & link; just ordered a copy.
Alfred & Monika strong & handsome/beautiful and their courage an inspiration to all.
Again. t/y for this info.
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JB61
Hey Monika I caught you on RBN
Yesterday with Giuseppe and Blackbird 9, John Friend and Malicus Scott https://www.republicbroadcastingarchives.org/rbns-2023-new-years-day-special-w-blackbird9-giuseppe/ Hour 1

RBN’s 2023 New Years Day Special w/ Blackbird9 & Giuseppe Hour 2

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Danthefnman187
I sure wish all thought criminals are as elegant, and pleasant. Great job Jim!
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Gertjan
In my opinion the Great Man, Adolf Hitler was much too kind and his friends also were so inclined. There never was any plan to exterminate the international pest but simply relocate it to some other place, no different than 1030 other places had done before Germany attempted to shake off the parasite. Now let’s make Planet Earth the 1031st place. Hail Victory!
Congratulations Monika. Well done. [show less]
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Gertjan
The whims of politicians does not the law make. Read Frederick Bastiat, The Law and learn the truth about this very important subject which has been usurped by the parasite.
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Gertjan
Good interview, Jim. Well done. Unlike certain interviewers you let your guest talk.
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scotty
JIM it would be great to see a video of you tearing apart this guys stupid video review which is apparently backed by the JEWtube police: found thru Fredziffle108 comment Jim
Here is Miles Power responding to Germar’s book

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scotty
JIM is extraordinarily talented as an interviewer, he asks pertinent clear concise questions and listens carefully to responses and answers and stays focused. This is actually rare in many high paid professionals.
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Leonieblah
Great video. Love Monika
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JohnKrakauer
going to buy the book
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Wayne101062
You will not see this book on the New York Times bestseller list. But is deserves to be there.
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Lastboyscout
The fact that her own family members reported her is disgusting and a sign of just how broken the German people really are
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C-ammo
Can’t wait for Monikas sequel,
“Sorry Jews, you were wrong about the Holocau$t”.
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Reasonable White Guy
When I was in high school and junior high, part of our curriculum was a state mandated unit on the holocaust. I went through these units for at least a couple years in various history and social studies classes. My awakening, had to do with how this subject was approached and taught. The Jewish kids in the class were generally put [show more]
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Kathleen Dudley
Fantastic!
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Kathleen Dudley
Thank you both for opening this up to encourage, expose and excite us about what is possible! You are both remarkable.
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Non Fake News
Always enjoy listening to Monika. Brave woman.
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Freeze Peach
Splendid everything and thanks Jim, thank you Monika. God bless.
GOTT MIT UNS.
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LambofGod1990
One thing I could not make sense of was the genuine Joy the German People had when attending Hitler’s Speeches. It turns out Hitler was not the Monster we have been led to believe. Stalin was actually a Mass Murderer who Straved and Killed Millions of his fellow Human Beings.
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Jim Rizoli: Hi everyone. I’m Jim Rizoli here with Germar Rudolf. We are going to be talking about the new books that have come out with the “Holocaust Handbook” series. And Germar is the one behind that is. And I think this is very important, because these books are very critical to the revisionist movement out there.

 

So, Germar welcome to the show. And I hope you have some good news for us in regards to what you’ve been doing with the new books.

 

Germar Rudolf: Yeah. Thank you for having me on.

 

Jim Rizoli: So what’s been going on? Tell us. I know you’ve been busy. I haven’t talked to you in a couple of, I don’t know, maybe what two years? Probably a couple years? It’s been a while.

 

Germar Rudolf: Yes. Well the “Holocaust Handbook” series, which I started officially, now 21 years ago. So it was in 2000 – when we issued the first edition “Dissecting the Holocaust” – and has grown over the years. And I was initially aiming at getting to 20 volumes, which was an ambitious project back then. And I reached that just about the time when I was arrested in 2005, and got deported from this country.

 

 

[Image] Dissecting the Holocaust – 2nd and 3rd Editions.

 

So this series got suspended, then I picked up, at a slow pace, initially. But then accelerating, particularly in 2015, 2016, when I resumed editorial responsibility for the series.

 

After I’d been arrested, and for the first years after my release from the German gulag, the responsibility for publication had been with the Barnes Review. They picked up that project when I was unable to.

 

But in 15, 16, I resumed the responsibility again.

 

And we have been adding volumes steadily to the series. Right now it stands at 44 volumes, that have appeared. And five more in the pipeline. Two, I already have on my hard drive here to be translated when I start. And two more I am in constant exchange with the author, which is Carlo Mattogno in Italy, while the projects are evolving. So four of them are already in some stage of preparation.

 

[Image] Holocaust Handbook series (click image to enlarge)

 

So it looks like we’re reaching 50. And at some point we have to make a stop to it! [chuckling] Because it’s getting too much like an encyclopedia, with 50 volumes is huge! And that’s probably the limit of what people would ever consider owning, or buying. Because beyond that the costs get just exorbitant.

 

And also at some point, to what detail do you want to delve into a topic that anyone would still be interested in? And there’s always danger of repeating yourself. So we need to cut. We need to trim down. We need to focus more on what’s important. We need to take repetitions out.

 

And all of these things we have been doing over the past two years; a) adding new volumes; b) replacing old ones that have had become inappropriate, I would say unsatisfactory, because they were outdated. One of the volumes, Volume 1 and 3 was a review of Raul Hilberg’s magnum opus, “The Destruction of the European Jews”. And he [the reviewer] had written that in 1999. So that’s 22 years ago. And back then his knowledge was limited in his ability to do a deep critique of Hilberg’s work was limited.

 

And Carlo Mattogno has written one that is based on his 20, 30 years of experiences in the field, which is much more thorough and superior in quality. So we have replaced the old Volume 3 with this new one.

 

Also Volume 28 used to be a two-set volume of more than 700 pages each. And it was a step-by-step, point-by-point, refutation and critique of the mainstream work that was trying to refute books we had published about the actual Reinhardt camps – Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor.

 

And that’s my son in the background, cleaning the table. So he’s going to be on camera and will be published too [chuckling]!

 

Jim Rizoli: Well, that’s okay.

 

Germar Rudolf: Anyway, that bulky two volume work was unattractive for the reader. Let’s say it, that way. There’s a book of thousand five hundred pages being a point-by-point refutation of something that somebody else has written, that doesn’t even exist as a book but only as a PDF file online. It’s a little bit difficult to read and understand and wrap your head around it.

 

I mean, I edited it. I’m very familiar with the details of all the things involved, but still I found it challenging to read it, and to really understand at each point of the discussion what’s going on.

 

So we thought this needs replacement with something that is readable, that’s enjoyable, that is more concise.

 

Also, because on these three camps, two of them particularly – Treblinka and Sobibor – more research had been done over the past years ever since that massive two volume book had appeared. That was 2013. There had been archaeological research going on in Treblinka and Sobibor and these results needed to be incorporated into something new.

 

So we took all the new research. Also the Poles started publishing from their archives, eyewitness testimony that were recorded during, or in the immediate post-war time, during the war, or shortly thereafter. They published them in books.

 

So they have not been accessible, so far. Hidden in some archive unknown, or unaccessible, to revisionists at least. They are now accessible. So they need to be included.

 

This has been published. That was just the recent release that we issued last week. And it’s called “The ‘Operation Reinhardt’ Camps Treblinka, Sobibór, Bełżec”. And so that is a replacement one.

 

Volume 40 had been a gap in the series. That was on the delivery of coke, wood, and Zyklon B, to Auschwitz. There are documents in the archives that prove how much coke, and how much wood, and how much Zyklon B, has been delivered to that camp. And the mainstream, let’s say some scholars from the Auschwitz museum, tried to use that documentation to prove that mass murder has been going on. But the methods they used to prove it were untenable, if not to say, outright ridiculous!

 

By saying, for instance, that:

 

“The cremation of a corpse just requires three kilograms of coke.”

 

Which is ridiculous!

 

And that was a book length review based on that documentation of this Polish – it’s actually only an article – a journal article, some 20, 30 pages, or so, that addresses these issues. And that booklet in front of you, had been written a long while ago. I can’t even remember. It’s four, five, six, years ago that Carlo Mattogno wrote that. And when I translated it several years ago we had some major issues with the math in it. So it basically didn’t pass peer review. Because one chapter in there, his math was just wrong.

 

And his extrapolations from the documentary material was “daring” to say the least! Speculating.

 

“We don’t have documents. But let’s assume that’s what it would have continued if the documentation would have been preserved.”

 

This is a limb out of which the mainstream can go on, but speculations shouldn’t be part of history. That’s just part of fiction, and it shouldn’t be in there.

 

So we had a standoff between peer reviews and Carlo Mattogno saying, … Carlo Mattogno wanted to have it as it is. Peer review would say there’s no way, this is just fraud.

 

Jim Rizoli: Who does that? Who does the peer review?

 

Germar Rudolf: It depends at any time who is an expert. We have a few people who look it over who know about stuff. In that case it was actually me, because when it comes to math and physical stuff I have a necessary background to do these things. And I was doing the checking there. [chuckling] So, I was checking all his math and putting it in proper form and ran into a lot of problems and wouldn’t let it pass.

 

We have some anonymous experts. We assume by the access they have to archive material, and judging by their knowledge of the topic, that they are probably mainstream professors, experts in the field. But they will not reveal who they are. They communicate anonymously with us. And that’s fine. We don’t want them get exposed as helping us.

 

But they do, and we get feedback from them when it comes to archival material, to source verification. And also to finding new sources, because we can’t get access to archives, to most archives, directly.

 

If you show up at an archive with a revisionist name you may get arrested in most European countries. Germany and Poland particularly! So we need helpers whose reputation is not on a black list. So let’s say, his name is not on the black list.

 

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Jim Rizoli: Who’s written most of your books? Carlo?

 

Germar Rudolf: Yeah, Carlo Mattogno is the main author. Now I was joking lately, because most of the projects we’re putting up right now are all written by Carlo Mattogno And, of course, the publishing outlet I have is Castle Hill Publishers, CHP. And I joked in one of these emails I was sending out to customers, saying:

 

“Well maybe we should rename it to ‘Carlo Mattogno Publishers’, CMP!”

 

Just joking!

 

But yeah, he’s the most prolific writer. He has gathered documents, tens of thousands of documents, while he was still able to access the archives in the 1990s. And, because of his reputation among historians, he has gained support from some of them, anonymously, and are helping him, getting him archive of material that he otherwise would not have access to.

 

So we have people actually going for us to archives getting stuff and sending it to us. And also pointing out when we make mistakes, or when we have missed something that’s crucial.

 

So in that case the math peer review I did, and I didn’t let it pass.

 

So eventually this year he agreed to take out his entire speculative, flawed math calculations, and publish the book without it. And that cleared the way for it. And so this way we could actually publish it. And that closed this one gap we still had in Volume 40.

 

Volume 41 to 44 have appeared in succession since December last year. And 42 has been out for a while. It was a project that I entered. That’s written by myself.

 

But 41, 43, and 44 came out in December, January, and February, if I’m not mistaken. So in quick succession.

 

Jim Rizoli: Do you ever have anybody buy the whole series?

 

Germar Rudolf: Yes, yes. We offer the whole series as a set, at a discount. And I would say we, … If I look at the turnover, I would say that a good 15 to 20 percent of our turnover is from selling the whole series.

 

Jim Rizoli: Wow!

 

Germar Rudolf: Because it’s such a big chunk. If somebody buys buys 44 books all in one go, that’s like 44 sales of individual books, with normal sales are just one book. We even offer all of our books. So the 44 volumes of the Holocaust Handbooks, plus all the other books that we have in our program, which is some 30 more books, or so. And some people even go for that. I would say on every four sets of “Holocaust” handbooks we get one set of all the books that we have in our program!

 

Jim Rizoli: Well, that would be quite a bit of bundles of books coming to the home, wouldn’t it?

 

Germar Rudolf: Yes. It’s not quite 80 books. And it comes in several boxes, indeed.

 

Jim Rizoli: I mean, it’s amazing, because most people don’t know anything. I mean, we do, but most other people don’t know anything about these books, because you can’t get them on Amazon, right?

 

Germar Rudolf: Each time we publish them they go through international distribution, and as such, Amazon offers them for a week, or two, until they become aware, …

 

Because every bookshop nowadays has an automatic online hookup to the distributors. And the distributors here in the United States, they are not allowed to turn down books. Because the main distributor in the United States has a monopoly, legally recognized monopoly. And therefore, they have to stock books, take them in their program, because they have a monopoly. They’re not allowed to turn anyone down as long as the book is legal.

 

And this way our books are in international distribution. So every bookseller online, or offline, having a hookup to that distributor, which everyone has – because that’s where everyone gets the books from – knows about the book and has it automatically in their system.

 

And so Amazon, and all the other online retailers that do that hookup, as soon as we publish the book the next hour, or two, boom! There it is! It’s an automatic process. And then for them to take it out of what they offer, requires the manual step of ticking some box:

 

“Hide this book.”

 

Or something, or whatever it is they’re ticking.

 

And usually it takes about two two weeks on average for them to get taken down.

 

So we assume there is the usual suspects of “thought police” monitoring books of a certain topic. And once they run into it, they have their hot wire to Jeff Bezos to have him push the censorship button, or whoever in his company does that kind of dirty job.

 

[15:51]

 

Jim Rizoli: Have any libraries ordered the series?

 

Germar Rudolf: No.

 

Jim Rizoli: Well, you know what happens in libraries? Let’s say they even did order the series. They’d put it in. And then what happens is they’d take the books out and never bring them back. And nothing you could do about it!

 

Because I’ve had this happen with books I wanted to get in the library. And that’s what happens. People will take the book out. And they’ll never bring it back. And then you say:

 

“Well who took the book out? I want to get the book back!”

 

And they don’t do anything about it. That’s what the libraries do! Just to let you know. They would never last in the library.

 

But anyway, that’s how they operate. Sad.

 

Germar Rudolf: Well, this series actually comes in three formats right now. And that’s one of the reason why we worked so hard.

 

We have a PDF format. So you can get them as ebooks, PDF, which we offer as a bundle for download. The list price is $70 for that, for all 44 books.

 

But in theory you wouldn’t have to pay for it. Every single book can be downloaded as a free PDF. If you want to go through the process of downloading 44 books, one after the other, you can do that on our website that’s dedicated to the series; holocausthandbooks.com.

 

And if you want to get them in a bundle in our shop at shop.cohdo.com you can do that. The list price is $70.

 

Now, we have a feature in our shop where you can actually change the price. You don’t see it in any shop, online shop, anywhere else. You have a product, a price is attached to it. And then you can put it in the shopping cart and buy it that way.

 

In our case, every single product we have has a price to it. But you can push the up, or down, button and reduce the price, or increase the price.

 

Now with many of our books there is a minimum price for the printed books, beyond which you cannot go. That’s the list price in this case. Because we can’t give them away for cheaper, because somehow we have to cover our costs and make a living.

 

But when it comes to ebooks, particularly the Holocaust Handbooks, we offer those as free ebooks on the Holocaust Handbooks website. And, because they are in theory free, how do we justify taking money for the same thing, bundled up, when we sell it in our shop? Now it’s kind of a feature. Yeah, there’s so much effort in it and we expect people, this is worth some money and they should be paying that.

 

But in that case we have actually switched it freely, so that people can lower the price.

 

“I don’t want to pay $70 for the series, I want to download it in one swoop and not pay anything!”

 

Then you go on the down button and click it all the way down to zero! And get it for free! That works. Only for the ebook versions of the Holocaust Handbooks.

 

On the other hand, if you buy just one, it costs just five dollars. And you think:

 

“This book should be worth much more. It’s such intense research, it’s so valuable! I think it’s worth twenty dollars!”

 

What you can do is press on the up button and increase the price! Which nobody has ever done [chuckling]! Ever since we introduced that feature [chuckling]!

 

Anyway, most people also don’t understand that they can lower the price. Because that’s just an unexpected features that doesn’t exist anywhere else in the world. But legally speaking, since we give them already away for free on our Holocaust Handbooks website, we thought charging money for them on our shop is not quite “kosher”. At least we should have the option there for people to reduce it down to zero. So that’s why we introduced a custom shopping cart, you can do these gimmicks.

 

So that’s the ebook version. Just seventy dollars list price.

 

Then we have the paperback version, which you see in your background. They are all lined up there with their cover art, or a spine art in that case.

 

And now, released a week ago, we have also a hardcover version. All of these books in hardcover. And the reason for that is twofold. One of them is this is an encyclopedic style series of research on the “Holocaust” that is unparalleled in the entire world!

 

 

The mainstream doesn’t have anything coming close to it! They have an encyclopedia that has three volumes, but each entry about the topics are very superficial. And there’s not much information in it. There’s no critical information! No information that really does some independent research. It’s mainstream stuff. And it just regurgitates the war propaganda, uncritically.

 

So there is nothing similar anywhere else in the world, mainstream, or not, like this one.

 

And a lot of people are willing to buy it. But then normally if you have an encyclopedic massive series like that, people would like to put it in some central shelf of their living room and say:

 

“I have all these books. And I’m a really well-read, knowledgeable person who has all this stuff, read.”

 

But then again, who seriously wants to “out themselves” by putting books like that centrally in their living room with any visitor, or even family member coming in and seeing that you have 44 “Holocaust denial” books sitting in your living room! Gets you in a lot of trouble!

 

[21:47]

 

Jim Rizoli: I don’t know I’m happy to have them on my shelf. I got them down in my basement, and I got them all, I love them!

 

Germar Rudolf: In your basement! You were hiding them in your basement [chuckling]!

 

Jim Rizoli: I know, because you haven’t seen my house, okay. My brother, Joe, has all his books upstairs. I get no place to put them! I can do my videos upstairs, and downstairs. And downstairs is another place where I can do videos with all the books behind me, you know, without the green kind of screen behind me. I don’t have a green screen but my brother Joe has a lot of books! Okay. He’s got hundreds and hundreds of books! And I mean, my whole living room is all books! It looks like a library.

 

But my basement, like I said, if you saw how I do my videos downstairs, all the books are on the shelves behind me. It looks really nice and your books are all there.

 

Now you said they’re on hard cover. What do they cost in hardcover?

 

Germar Rudolf: The production cost for the hardcover is not quite ten dollars more than for the paperback. It’s five dollars more for the hardcover, and we use a little bit higher quality paper for it. So we increased the price for each paperback edition by just ten dollars to cover the additional production cost, because we didn’t want to make more profit on it, just because it’s hardcover. Plus a little bit of a margin setting up those books cost us thousands, [words unclear], or so, not counting the time I’ve put in to produce the new imprint.

 

Jim Rizoli: You don’t have a hardcover one with you, do you?

 

Germar Rudolf: I just sent you an email, an image showing how they look like, how they line up in the similar fashion as you have the paperback in the background. If you look it up you could perhaps replace it while I’m talking. And then people can look at it.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay.

 

Germar Rudolf: So what we have done is not do any fancy cover art with those, for the simple reason covers for hardbacks have to be completely differently layouted then paperbacks. Because the hardcover exceeds the trim size by an eighth, or a quarter of an inch. And then you have to wrap the artwork around it. So the artwork has to be completely redone. Also the spine is completely different. And having to completely redo all the artworks for the cover would have consumed a lot of time! And that would have been untenable, because we don’t expect to sell those like hot cakes.And therefore we need to keep the costs down.

 

So what we did our printer offered an option that is called a “digital print blue cloth”. So it looks like a patterned blue cloth hardcover, even though it’s actually printed.

 

Jim Rizoli: Did you say you just sent it?

 

Germar Rudolf: Yeah I sent you an email with it. Let me see if it’s, …

 

Jim Rizoli: Oh yeah, all right, cool! Let me see if I can grab that. All right, cool.

 

Germar Rudolf: Now when it comes to the cost of the series, as I mentioned, the e-books right now are $70. Paperback sits at $875. And that includes actually already upcoming volumes that will appear later this year. We have two more in the pipeline that I’m working on.

 

Jim Rizoli: Wow!

 

Germar Rudolf: And they will be included in that price. That’s for the paperback.

 

And the hardcover is a whopping $1,170, right now. This is a 35% discount over what you would pay if you bought every single book individually. And actually includes free shipping anywhere in the world!

 

So if you’re on Micronesia, or you’re in Japan, or in Russia, or in Timbuktu, or wherever you are, it doesn’t matter! We can get it there and your shipping is included. Because, as UPS brags, they go anywhere! I don’t know whether they go to Antarctica. Maybe they do [chuckling]! Some researcher there wants the series.

 

[26:14]

 

Jim Rizoli: I’m looking at the set. I mean, it’s really nice. I mean, that’s great!

 

Germar Rudolf: Right. This now really looks like a series of one big set of books. They all belong together. We have this one sticking out on the paperback that’s large size. That’s the Air Photo book, because there’s so many big photos in here that we wanted to have in big size. We couldn’t do that with a hard cover, because that kind of hardcover, our printer doesn’t do in letter size format. So we had to reduce the size. But it’s also neat to have them all have the same size, so they really fit together.

 

Then you have the volume numbers, they’re going from 1 to 44, at the top. So it really looks like an encyclopedia, which kind of it is. And we’re working on it to trim it, adjust it in a way that repetitions are taken out.

 

We have one book, Volume 22, was published in two, the Italian original edition in 2008, or 2009. And at that point the later Volume 24 hadn’t appeared, which is about the cremation furnaces at Auschwitz. That was a book that Carlo Mattogno has been working on since the early 1990s. It finally appeared in the Italian edition in 2012. The English edition, the first edition, in 2015. The second edition I’m just wrapping up. So we have a new edition coming up that will replace the old one.

 

But when he issued the Volume 22 on the gas chambers of Auschwitz, he wanted to address the issue of cremation furnaces. He normally would have referred to his [word unclear] but it wasn’t out yet. So he included a long chapter on summarizing what was to be published in Volume 24. This is now redundant, because 24 is out, has been for a while.

 

And also he has large chapters on critiquing Rudolf Höss as a witness. We have a separate monograph, that’s Volume 35, on critiquing Henryk Tauber, one of the Sonderkommando witnesses.

 

We will have a separate book, Volume 54, which I have already on my hard drive, that is Henryk Tauber and another witness. A critique of their testament. So these chapters will be a little bit redundant. So we’re working on trimming down Volume 22, making summaries on these topics only, otherwise referring to these monographs.

 

And by so doing we can actually reduce some of the massive volume of some of these volumes. The reader doesn’t have all these repetitions.

 

Jim Rizoli: If you had to pick one book that, let’s say someone couldn’t afford all the books, they wanted one book out of your series that would really kind of like give you the whole nine yards in one book, which one would you say?

 

Germar Rudolf: My preferred one are the “Lectures on the Holocaust” [Holocaust Handbooks, Volume 15: Lectures on the Holocaust—Controversial Issues Cross-Examined 3rd, revised and expanded edition]. Not because I wrote it, …

 

 

Jim Rizoli: I believe the same thing. I think that out of all of them, I think that one there, it covers almost everything. I mean, in a good way, you know?

 

Germar Rudolf: Right. I mean, it’s not a short book. It depends on how much you want to read. We have, I would say, four books in the series that tries to give you an overview.

 

The volume first [Vol 1] actually, I started that, because at that point, when I had the original German edition, working on that in the early 90s, I was a complete newcomer to the field. And I started that project, because I myself wanted to have an overview of what’s going on. What’s the state of art in that field? And I get all those revisionist scholars from all over the world together, bring their knowledge to the project, and make it an anthology on this. And that’s how Volume 1 came to be in the early 90s.

 

Now the last edition is from 2019. We keep updating it. But it’s chopped up in topics, and dealt with by separate authors. So it’s not a story that you can read in one go. You have different chapters on different topics, which some may like.

 

The “Lectures on the Holocaust” are based on actual lectures I have done in the early 90s. While I was doing this research I was giving lectures to some academic audiences in two cases, in the second half of 1992. Presenting in multimedia form the research that revisionists were doing. And that book is along the same line. It starts with what the mainstream is claiming, what the issue, is there controversy? It goes to through a history of scandals of people doubting, refuting, running afoul of the thought police. And showing how many people there are, academics, reputable persons in the academic and technical world who also voiced doubts and got in trouble. And all the censorship and the pressure that’s going on to keep a lid on this topic.

 

And then it goes into covering the topic from various aspects. And it’s an exchange, it’s in a dialogue style.

 

So it engages the reader by feeling that this is actually a lecture, where the lecturer engages the audience, and the audience engages the lecturer back with critical questions, hostile questions, and [word unclear] questions, whatever the case may be. And this exchange goes on through the whole book, and it covers a large swath.

 

And I keep that updated, too. I mean, it’s now four years that I had the last edition. It’s slated for a new one next year at some point. And this book has 500 pages of text. So, it’s not quite as big as “Dissecting”, which is 600. But you kind of have to read it in one go, because it all belongs together, and it comes all together.

 

But then again the reading style is so entertaining, I heard, that people keep going. It’s flows, and flows, and you don’t even notice how you’re getting fast through it.

 

Jim Rizoli: Excellent book! I love it! I actually read it over, and over, again.

 

[32:41]

 

Germar Rudolf: And then, if you want less, we have by two different authors.

 

We have by the former professor of the history of science, Nick Kollerstrom, from London College. He used to teach, then got thrown out when he outed himself as a revisionist. He was a lecturer there. And he wrote that book “Breaking the Spell”, which is Volume 31 of the series. And this is probably the shortest book giving an overview of the topic. And it’s a completely different style and is shorter. So if you just want to have it in a nutshell, or 240 pages, or so, that’s probably the one you would want to go to. It has a different angle of approaching things.

 

And then you have “Debating the Holocaust”, which is the next volume, Volume 32, by a professor of philosophy. I won’t reveal his name here. But his pen name is Thomas Dalton. So he comes from the philosophical angle. And he’s actually a major critic of modern technology. That’s what his approach is to philosophy. Thinking that modern technology is ruining mankind. Not so much talking about the environment, that’s a different issue. But if you look at all the, …

 

Jim Rizoli: I got a question for you Germar. In all the books, like I know you revise them, what things have you revised in the books that have been very critical to revise? Because again, remember, that this goes over a long period of time. So from the beginning when you started getting these books going to now, what have you had to go back on to say:

 

“Wait a second here! We have to change something here that we said that we have to revise.”

 

Can you can pick anything out?

 

[34:56]

 

Germar Rudolf: Over the decades much more material has become accessible. So you broaden your bases, your source bases basically. You don’t want to be accused of when you’re in that business saying that you’re overlooking major sources. And so we have to broaden that. And that doesn’t really change anything when it comes to the result of the research as a matter of fact the more sources we get there are two kinds of sources:

 

Original wartime documents that show what happened on the official level – documents produced by the Germans, but also documents produced by the Allied powers. And by the underground movements that were fighting against the Germans.

 

And then you have as a second group; eyewitness accounts.

 

And as I mentioned just before, a lot of those hidden in archives have been recently made accessible on various camps; Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor. And Belzec, there’s nothing really new. So it’s limited to these three camps that major new material became accessible.

 

And then we analyzed that too. Broaden the basis and see it fully supports our conclusions and our the results we get from this support. So it’s not changing anything when it comes to our conclusions. But it under undergirds it much more firmly and makes it less accessible to attack from the other side, because we show we really master the source material. We know it all. And we include it and discuss it all.

 

Jim Rizoli: Well I know the books get attacked all the time. I mean, I are you familiar with the Quora site? Have you ever heard of that, Quora? It’s like a blog site. It’s called q-u-o-r-a. And people like yourself you could go on there. And you could actually put your books up for comment on that site. Yourself, I suppose.

 

But people criticize the “Holocaust” books, you know. I mean, revisionist books. And they say that they’re not written by scholars. The people that write them don’t know what they’re talking about, and blah, blah, blah. I mean, …

 

Germar Rudolf: That is not criticizing the books, it’s ad hominem attacks which, …

 

Jim Rizoli: I know, I know!

 

Germar Rudolf: , … Is not scientific behaviour because so many scholars on the mainstream, they are not formally educated in history, either. So this is not what counts.

 

You have to go to the actual source material and claim we quoted it wrongly, we missed sources, we misinterpreted them, or whatever it is.

 

There are a number of websites by mainstream people – not all of them scholars – picking up on whatever we have published, and then trying to refute it. And these websites are more, or less, active and stuff getting posted there all the time and revised.

 

The problem with that approach is that if you want to do serious scientific research, you need to back up what you’re saying. And what you’re quoting with sources that are reliably discoverable by whoever is going to want to check what you’re saying!

 

One main feature of today’s scientific and academic world is that you cannot quote stuff that’s on the internet, on some blog, because tomorrow it may be changed. Tomorrow it may be gone.

 

There are two kinds of sources; quotable sources and non-quotable sources! Non-quotable sources, anything of the day day-to-day media. You can’t quote them. Because journalists make stuff up! They have no idea what they’re talking about. You cannot ever quote media!

 

Jim Rizoli: Right.

 

Germar Rudolf: You can quote them as proof as that they’re talking nonsense. That’s all you can use them [chuckling] for! You cannot use them to prove anything being correct, because journalists are hardly ever correct. And tomorrow a paper that may be posted online may be gone tomorrow.

 

And the same is with those blogs where people just throw in their mental diarrhea! Tomorrow it may be rewritten, tomorrow may be gone! There is no peer review process, there is no academic control.

 

Like a lot of academic publications nowadays are already published online before they ever get printed. Some of them are only online. But they have peer review processes. They have proper archiving procedures, referencing procedures. So if somebody posts something it’s there. It will be there. It will stay there. And you can’t make revisions. You can submit errata sheets or so they get added to it. But you can’t actually change stuff around. Publish is published! And it stays there.

 

That’s not true for all these blogs. So if you want to pay attention and take seriously every single one of these mental diarrhea sites, you have nothing else to do in the world anymore.

 

I realized that in the 1960s [?90s] when I was getting engaged in these bulletin boards and these discussion groups on the internet that were just popping up as the internet was evolving. And people were engaging each other in revisionist discussions, or “Holocaust” denial, or revisionism, whatever site you’re on.

 

And I realized that if you refute one person in any discussion it may, or may not, get deleted. But then as somebody else starts a new thread and the same false claims are being published again by someone else. So you can’t win in any of these. It’s a wack-a-mole game! You can never win that!

 

And if you get start getting engaged in it you have no time and no energy left to do actually what needs to be done! To go to the archives, to do the footwork, to actually get this stuff together and publish it in a serious form, in printed books, as it needs to be.

 

[41:20]

 

Now if these people start actually putting their critique together, peer review it, get it published as a book so that we know it’s there! It stays! It’s in archives! It’s in libraries! People can access it and it won’t run away, then we can talk about discussing these things.

 

But as long as it is in the format as it is, it’s impossible to handle. I mean, potentially there could be millions of people who hate revisionism, want to refute it, they all get into these bulletin boards, and discussion groups, and blogs, and whatever you call them, the name for these things have changed over time, you know what used to be just a bulletin board is now a blog.

 

How many people are we on the revisionist side that do serious research? We are so resource constrained by time, by money, by anything, that we really have to focus on what we can do. We cannot engage all these people! We cannot even read all this stuff!

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah, I know.

 

Germar Rudolf: Put it in a proper form? Yes. But unless that happens and I can’t see that happening, because no publisher takes books that takes revisionist content series and tries to refute it, because by so doing you first acknowledge revisionist stuff exists!

 

Second, you acknowledge that it is so serious that it needs addressing and refutation. And so the reader gets pointed to the revisionist content. Ninety nine point nine per cent of people out there believe the mainstream story, anyhow. Once they get a book in their hand that says:

 

“Oh there are revisionists. And they have arguments and we need to refute them.”

 

Ten percent of them bail out and are suddenly with us! So bad news about revisionism by these blogs and books turns out to be advertising for us. No matter what news it is, it’s going to be advertising! Therefore these things will not be published as books, because publishers will not touch it!

 

Jim Rizoli: Do you get a chance to go out and speak anywhere? Like to people, or, …

 

Germar Rudolf: No. The current social atmosphere makes it an activity that I would consider too dangerous.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah.

 

Germar Rudolf: The things I’m doing are already dangerous. I still have three school-aged kids, and we try to live a normal family life. If I stick my head too far out the window that may change.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah.

 

Germar Rudolf: Right now, you go to the website of the town I live in, it’s not a secret, it’s Red lion. You go on Wikipedia look up Red Lion [York, Pennsylvania] and you look up which prominent persons live in Red Lion. There are three people on there. Two of which don’t even live here. And there’s one person who actually does live there, and that’s me. And this is as much as a high profile as I want. [chuckling] I’m the only prominent person living in this town, and the media, of course, see that as a negative, just as does Wikipedia has a negative prominence as an infamous person. And getting in much higher profile than that, … Already having the interview as I have it now with you.

 

Jim Rizoli: Right.

 

Germar Rudolf: It’s probably engaging in public speech in some regard. And this is already a risk I’m taking here on a personal level, because my wife doesn’t like it.

 

Now that is the other part of the family. And not, because of the contents we’re discussing. There’s nothing that they have to quibble about that. But it’s because of the exposure I get and the possible negative repercussions it could have for the family. And I’m not going to make it worse by going out and speak to actual audiences where on top of it you have the risk of some people attacking you physically.

 

[45:13]

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah. I know, because that’s another thing they use against a revisionist. They say:

 

“Well revisionists, they don’t go out and debate people, or this, or that.”

 

And then, like you just say. Well, if we go out there doing this, we run into problems, because people want to kill us! Or burn our, … You know, do something bad to us. And I understand that. I can see that happening.

 

It’s like Ball, John Ball, I know you have one of the books of him the photo evidence of the camps and this. And he kind of like disappeared in life, right?

 

Germar Rudolf: Well, I’m in touch with him. We’re still friends. So yeah, he changed his name and moved away, and changed his career completely. So unless, you know, where to look for him and under what name you wouldn’t know where he is. But for a good reason, because he completely ruined his career!

 

He was a mineral exploration geologist. And after that book had come out he had become unemployable! He lost his job and he couldn’t find a job anywhere, anymore. And so he’s now independent, he’s his own boss, he does his own thing. So that was the only way out.

 

Like for me. I mean, I’m independent. I’m unemployable in the normal market. I wouldn’t have to apply for anything, anyway! [chuckling] Any googling of my name and people just won’t touch me. And he had the same problem. So for me it’s not a problem anymore of employability, of material safety, which a proper job gives you, because I have made revisionism my job. And my career. And my life, and earn the living I need to earn to live.

 

I mean, I’m not, you’re not, getting rich with a revisionism, ever! And 20, 30, 40 years ago when there were still wartime generation people who would bestow big inheritances on some individuals. But that doesn’t happen anymore. Ernst Zundel managed to get several millions that way. But then again he had expenses of several millions with all the stuff he was doing, too! [chuckling]

 

So, at the end of the day, no matter how you look at it, revision is not going to be materially profitable to anyone. It’s dangerous, …

 

Jim Rizoli: All right, finish what you’re going to say, because I have another question I want to ask you. Kind of unrelated, but go ahead.

 

The question I want to ask you has to do with Eric Hunt, if you don’t mind me asking, okay? Because what the hell happened with him? I mean, I look at the stuff on the internet, I read, and here’s a guy that was doing tremendous work in the revisionist movement. And then he just completely went off, out of sight here! I don’t know what, I mean, … Can you talk about it, or if you don’t want to, you don’t have to.

 

Germar Rudolf: I would exaggerate if I say that I know him well enough to make make 100% accurate assessment of what happened there. There are several aspects to the issue. And two of them are what I would like to discuss here.

 

The first one is his mental and emotional stability. He was on some medication to keep his emotions in check. Which shows already that he sometimes emotionally overreacted to things that required that medication.

 

So, when you get into, … Let’s call it a fight like that, it’s not like that you want to fight for something, but the social environment will fight you! So you inevitably get into nasty social situations that isolate you. And, of course, he had a bad experience when he had this little encounter, a nasty encounter with Ellie Wiesel which got him sentenced for assault and spent jail time, actually.

 

That was before he got deeper involved in revisionism. But that kind of ruined his social situation for good in this country. After that he was living in a car out on the road, because he was unemployable. The situation was really bad. And it got better only when he left the country and moved over to Europe, to Eastern Europe.

 

Jim Rizoli: So that’s where he is now? He’s in Europe?

 

Germar Rudolf: Most of the good work that you’ve seen him doing, some of them he did still while living in a car here in the US, after he was released from prison. And some of that he did then when he was in Eastern Europe. And that’s where he is right now. And he has a girlfriend there.

 

And I actually talked to him, and it’s the second aspect. He was in it not for the revisionist part, you know. I came in primarily, because a feeling of injustice, suppressing something like that evidently has a lot of impact, a lot of importance. Suppressing it by the government is just unjust! And anything that’s profoundly unjust, there’s something that drives me up, and I get pick up the fight for justice.

 

However, his approach was White Nationalism. And to, to a large degree, an anti-jewish stance. And he saw revisionism as a tool to further these causes. And this is a tricky, slippery road to go on. Because, if you look into revisionism, it is nothing isolated for White nationalists. You find black people interested in it. You find Latinos interested in it. You find Arab Muslim communities interested in it particularly. So there is no racial purity in the revisionist movement. The whole concept is just alien to revisionism.

 

And the other thing is the anti-jewish angle, revisionism by itself is not against any group of people, or any creed, or whatever you want to say. Of course, it is critical about eyewitnesses, a large portion of which happen to have some kind of jewish background. But that’s where it stops. We’re not getting into the discussion of jews as a social group, or as a religious group, even though some revisionists do that in other parts of the world.

 

Like, if you look at Thomas Dalton, he has these two books on “Holocaust” revisionism. And lately, over the past two, or three years, he’s published numerous books on the so-called jewish question. So there is a relationship between the two. But it’s not one-on-one.

 

And you can’t solve any jewish question, whatever you want to define it, by just going after revisionism, making it succeed. That is not a panacea for nationalist, White nationalist, supremacist, racialist – whatever you want to call it – issue that people may have, ….

 

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Jim Rizoli: Even David Cole and even David Irving and Mark Webb, … I mean, a lot of them have kind of capitulated in some of their views now. But to now saying like, for instance, like:

 

“Oh, Treblinka was an execution camp! They murdered millions of people in these camps!”

 

And [words unclear] his great Treblinka video he did. And then go completely the opposite, to say:

 

“Oh now the big problem is, well, where did the jews go if they weren’t exterminated? Where did they go? And blah, blah, blah!”

 

Germar Rudolf: For me, it’s two issues. I advised him, you need to take your emotional investment in it hoping that it will resolve the White racist problems, and the jewish question, out of it, because it’s probably not gonna happen.

 

It’s a fight by itself. It’s for truth! It’s for justice more than anything else. And his heart was not in that kind of stuff. He realized this is not leading to success. Not short term, not midterm, if ever. And therefore he lost an interest in it.

 

And then I advised him, before he flipped, I advised him he needs to have the basics of his life sorted out. He was in the process of ruining his life with revisionism, by getting in this tussle with Ellie Wiesel, getting himself imprisoned, because of it. And I said:

 

“The most important issue of life, is procreation! That’s how life maintains itself! It’s also the solution to the White racial problem! You don’t have kids, it’s not going to be a White race. There’s not going to be anything to fight for! So love family, having children, raising new life in love. That is the essence of life! This is the essence of the human experience! And you need to focus on that. You have a girlfriend there, she’s a good girl. Get your life back together in Eastern Europe. Marry her, have children, have a family, have a reason for life that is very profound deep and makes sense in the bigger context, too. And once you have that, all the rest comes after that it’s secondary.”

 

And I think that fed then into it him realizing:

 

“If I want to have a normal family life, I need to stop ruffling feathers on a level where I’m getting constantly in trouble, and where I have problems maintaining a family, or even establishing one.”

 

And so he decided to bail out! To not have the struggle anymore, since it’s not leading to the immediate success he hoped for on the aspects on the topics he was most interested in. And to settle down have a family and bailout.

 

Anything else is post facto rationalization of his decision!

 

As you say, we can’t comprehend he makes this hard-heading videos on Majdanek and Treblinka showing how absurd the story is, how easily it can be refuted. And then he flips suddenly 180 degrees, coming up with these superficial, mainstream, propaganda slogans, that he just refuted a year ago! It makes no sense.

 

And the reason why it makes no sense is he rationalized his decision to bail out this way, to get out of the hard fight, because he realized it’s not really his fight. And he needs to justify it without feeling himself a coward, or whatever it is.

 

Jim Rizoli: It almost sounds like it was done in a spiteful way, you know what I mean? Like you’re not doing it, because you’re leaving it, you’re doing it, …

 

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Germar Rudolf: Go back to the first part when I talked about his emotional problems.

 

Jim Rizoli: Right.

 

Germar Rudolf: You see how he does it that’s in his, in the fabric of his behavioral patterns.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah. What do you think about David Irving, because he believes now that a couple million people were killed in Treblinka too! The Reinhardt camps. I mean even Mark Weber! Mark Weber even has a belief system that he believes that people were killed, either the Einsatzgruppen would kill them, or they were killed in gas chambers, or whatever, in these camps.

 

David Cole, he’s done the same thing. I mean, what do you think about that today?

 

Germar Rudolf: David Irving has never been a “Holocaust” revisionist, as such, as we would describe, in that he researched the matter, argued the matter, and came to conclusions based on the evidence he found, and the arguments he has assessed.

 

If you look at what he has published over the years, he has published stuff about the war, about war heroes, or central war figures. And he has never published anything serious about revisionism. And when I visited him back in London, back in the years, he said:

 

“He doesn’t read the revisionist books.”

 

You know, he always brags, he doesn’t read mainstream historians books! He goes to the archives. He goes to the source material itself and does the research. And he doesn’t care about what other people write, because it’s irrelevant. The only thing he’s interested in is:

 

“What sources do they quote? Have I covered that? Did I find them? And if not, where do I find them? Then I use them.”

 

I’m not saying that the approach is wrong, quite to the contrary. At the end of the day, the evidence matters, not somebody’s published opinion about it.

 

So it’s always good to go to the evidence and make up your own mind. But that’s exactly the issue! He has never done that in the issue of the extermination of the jews. He hasn’t done it about Auschwitz! About Treblinka! About Belzec! About Sobibor! Majdanek, or any other camp. He has done no footwork whatsoever! Archival, forensic, whatever you want to call it, to even assemble some amount of evidence to base his opinion upon! Therefore his opinion is as relevant as anyone’s!

 

Jim Rizoli: Right.

 

Germar Rudolf: Just because he’s David Irving and has published books on historical aspects of this and that, doesn’t mean he’s an expert, and needs to be taken seriously when it comes to these things. No, it’s not!

 

When we’re talking about David Cole, it’s similar in this regard. He has done some footwork when it comes to Auschwitz. And I have been over the years, until not too long ago, actually been in touch with him. And sometimes he’s preparing something. And then he asked me for an update of what the research situation about Auschwitz is. Asks me a few questions. What are the primary sources, that I pointed to him. Because he doesn’t want to do the footwork of even reading the revisionist books, or going to the archives! He then asks someone:

 

“Where’s that stuff?”

 

And I point him to it. And he always asks only about Auschwitz, none of the other stuff!

 

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And he has maintained – to some degree Irving the same thing, because his trial was mainly about it, he was forced to go into the evidence a little bit there, but not too much.

 

He maintains his stance about Auschwitz, David Cole that is, saying:

 

“It didn’t happen! There were no gas chambers there.”

 

Because he has done a little bit of footwork there and he knows that the evidence clearly points to:

 

“No, it didn’t happen.”

 

He hasn’t done the same thing with the other camps. So then he falls back to:

 

“What makes life bearable and easy for me? Well, go with the mainstream. Because I have to make life bearable to some degree, and don’t want to get involved in a battle that just drags me deeper, and deeper, and deeper, into the rabbit hole!”

 

And when it comes to Mark Weber, … Mark Weber I’ve seen him interact with David Irving and he’s very basically parroting what David Irving has been saying.

 

[Image] Mark Weber.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah. It seems like they’re kind of together, David Cole, Weber, and Irving, are kind of like:

 

“Birds of a feather, flock together.”

 

And the limited gassings, people were killed in the camps. The Einsatzgruppen killed, you know, a million people, …

 

Germar Rudolf: David David Irving is an extremely dominant person, socially speaking.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah.

 

Germar Rudolf: To the point where he can get really unpleasant.

 

Mark Weber is a shifty person, who tries to arrange his professional environment in a way where he stays on top, and everybody that maybe a threat, gets out of the way. And he keeps control over everything. So he’s a control freak when it comes to his IHR [Institute of Historical Review] thing, and with minimal efforts trying to make a living. Because basically when you look what he’s producing and the quality of work, there’s nothing left!

 

Jim Rizoli: Nothing! Yeah.

 

Germar Rudolf: He’s pushed everyone out. They wanted to do work and he has repelled everyone. And he is basically in this relationship, Irving-Weber. He’s the submissive party.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah.

 

Germar Rudolf: I’ve seen them interact when they are one-on-one, or sitting in a restaurant with a few people, the way he panders to David Irving, sycophantic behavior that made me sick to watch! It was appalling! And I walked out of it. I said:

 

“Oh! This is just awful!”

 

Having seen this kind of dynamic between the two that’s all there is to it! He’s just creeping us up David Irving’s ass, because that’s a comfortable position to be in for him! Because this big David Irving then gives him a little bit of a share of the reputation, and recognition, and stabilizes his situation of having control over the IHR. And that’s all there is to it.

 

Jim Rizoli: ,You know what bothers me? I heard that he’s actually sitting on a bunch, a lot of books that should be republished, or could be republished. Really good revisionist books. He’s not doing it! He’s just holding them and not publishing them! And that really bothers me, you know?

 

Germar Rudolf: Arthur Butz told me, … You know, we are getting off on a tangent, which I shouldn’t get off on. But then I’m going there anyway [chuckling]! Arthur Butz tells me:

 

“Stop kicking a dead horse!”

 

And with that, he means Mark Weber and the IHR.

 

 

But since you brought it up, look, everyone look behind Jim Rizoli, you see those 44 books there. Hard hitting, top-notch research results published through my outlet over the past 20 some odd years!

 

If you try to find any of those books; hardcover, softcover, whatever it is, offered by the IHR, you will find out that they offer nothing! I have offered to Mark Weber repeatedly, special deals that he can even sell the books on his website. He offers them, he sells them, but he doesn’t have to keep any stock, he doesn’t have to buy any books from me. He just forwards the incoming orders to me. I fulfill them and he gets cut. A very generous cut! Twice the amount of industry standard! I do that with other publishers, with other outlets. It works just fine.

 

He refuses to do it! Initially when I said:

 

“Well I’ll give you a special discount, you buy the book.”

 

“No, I don’t have storage space to put them in.”

 

“Well, then I just send them to you as you need them.”

 

“Well no, we don’t have the money to put up front to buy these books.”

 

“Well, I mean, do it on commission.”

 

“Well no, this is inconvenient.”

 

“Well then I do order fulfillment for you. You will not have anything to do. You can automatize it. You see this book is published by Castle Hill Publishers. Somebody orders it, the system sends the email to me, I fulfill it. You get the money! You have no effort whatsoever! No expense whatsoever! You just rake in money! What’s the problem?”

 

Will not do it!

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah.

 

Germar Rudolf: Why will he not do it? Answer that question to yourself. There are a number of answers to it, but none of them are positive.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah, well I mean, yeah. Germar, right now you’re probably the top man in regards to the revisionist movement, in regards to getting things done, published, and out there.

 

And, of course, I’m close with Fred Leuchter. And we have a good relationship with him. Because he obviously agrees with you and is on your side 100%. And I mean, it’s good to see people that are standing up and standing firm with this, because you have loose, back revisionist, like Mark Weber. I don’t even really consider him a revisionist. David Irving, I don’t consider a revisionist. And the other ones I talked about.

 

But you’ve been doing this for years and you’ve been hanging in there. And I mean, you’re not making a million dollars. But you’re hanging in there. I mean, I’m happy to see that you’re doing this.

 

And I wish more people would buy your books. I hope people watching this will hopefully, if they have some money to spend, if you have a $500,000, you want to buy the whole set, you know, invest your money in something that’s positive! That’s good! That’s gonna give you some information., you know what I’m saying?

 

People can waste their money on all this other garbage. And I look at books as very valuable, especially with the internet now banning everything. I mean, eventually these books won’t be available anywhere. I mean, if you have them, then you have them! That’s the way I look at it. I mean, if you’re interested in the topic, you know what I’m saying?

 

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Germar Rudolf: Very soon, hopefully within the next week, or two, we will have a special deal on the Holocaust Handbooks. That is a library edition. And as I mentioned we’ll offer them for a cheaper price. So right now the hardcover edition is over a thousand dollars. And we will probably offer it roughly half the price, which will be just a little bit over production costs, plus shipping.

 

But, if anyone orders that library set of books it will go to a library. So they have to tell us which library is supposed to get it. So this is a way for people to donate the whole set, hardcover. Libraries don’t take paperbacks of that kind of books, because they don’t last. They use that as an excuse to reject them. Hard covers last, so that’s what they want to have.

 

And then people can actually make a donation to a public, or an academic library – include the information, which one they prefer. If they don’t enter any, we pick one, we communicate with the customer who makes a donation. And then we make sure that we have someone, somewhere, who tracks down whether the library accepts them, stores them, catalogs them, and makes them accessible.

 

And a story may develop out of that, that they actually reject them, or they hide them in the archive, or they don’t catalog them, or they put them in a poison cabinet, not giving anyone access!

 

Jim Rizoli: I think that’s a great idea! Because isn’t it true that books like that you can’t check out, right? You can’t take out a book like that, can you?

 

Germar Rudolf: There are unique, particular of historical value, if you have of anything that is considered an antique, or of any kind, that you can only take them into the reading room. Sometimes even under supervision.

 

Jim Rizoli: That’s why I said that in the beginning, because, well the books that I’ve gotten in the libraries in the past people have stolen them. I think that’s a great idea for people watching this video. If you want to see if you can do something positive to get this message out with these books. Like you say, say you’re going to donate, you’re going to buy the books, or how it works, you buy the books and donate them to the library. The library puts them in. And then they got the books. I mean, that’s really good. I think that’s a great idea!

 

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Germar Rudolf: Yeah. Because any academic researcher that will then go to a library and look what’s there. You think nowadays a lot of research is through the internet. Through the internet we are already present. If somebody looks for them, they find them “Holocaust Handbooks”. All available for free.

 

But when it comes down to some serious researchers I earlier mentioned, at the end, it is still going to the archives, it’s still going to the libraries. And once the books are, they will stumble over them. And if you have this massive set you can’t just, … I mean, a lot of scholars will still turn a blind eye to it! But the younger ones, the less prejudiced ones, take note anyhow and that’s seeding doubts in young minds that actually do some serious research in libraries.

 

And also it’s about anyone else. I went to the library when I was young researching that topic and all I found was mainstream stuff, very little revisionist stuff. Had I ever stumbled over something like that treasure trove opening up your mind, wow! What is this! It would have been an explosion of knowledge!

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah.

 

Germar Rudolf: So we want to have people get that opportunity by chance stumbling over it. If you already know what you’re looking for you always find it, because we have it out there. But for the people who don’t look for it, they should still stumble over it.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah. I mean, that’s a great idea. I hope people watching this will think about that. Maybe, if you want to contribute to the cause, this would be a good cause to contribute to and helping other people in a library to see the information. I think that’s great.

 

And again, you mentioned too, all the PDFs. I got all the PDFs on my phone. I can read all the time. And I put them on my phone, and I read them on my tablets. And you can download those free if you want.

 

But I really would love to see more people, even if they don’t want your books, contribute to the cause! I mean, right Germar, people can at least contribute to the cause to help you keep the work going. I mean, this is what bothers me. The “Holocaust” lobby has millions and millions of dollars supporting them and all their efforts.

 

Germar Rudolf: That is an understatement! They have billions, that’s more like it.

 

Jim Rizoli: Billions, I mean. And here you are working hard to keep the most important information and the truth about this topic. And it’s like you have to go from week to week, month to month, just getting by. I mean, people put your money where your mouth is! Support the cause! I love to see people support the cause more. So even if you don’t read, support the cause! Do something! Get the information out! Get them into the libraries, if you have money to spend, then do that. I don’t know people always say.:

 

“Well, what can I do to help you?”

 

Well, look, I don’t want your money. Just get this information out there, that’s the most important thing.

 

Well anyway, how would you like to conclude? Anything you want to say Germar? I know going about an hour.

 

Germar Rudolf: I guess in the video description below when you post we can put some links on where to get the “Holocaust” handbook series, and whatever form you want them. And also a link to where you can actually donate.

 

Jim Rizoli: Okay. You send me whatever you have. And I’ll put it in the description of the video. You know, I have probably, Diane, we have about maybe 350 people on our email list. Which is a pretty good email list. And then I have my BitChute site. And I have my other video sites. And this is going to go on all the sites.

 

And we have a movement here that’s very important I think. People have to see it. And you have the fake revisionist movement, okay! We already talked about [chuckling]! And then you got the movement that you’re taking care of, and you’re spearheading. And I think that’s the moment we got to support and get behind, however we can do it, okay. Leave Germar money in your will! Anything! Give him something so he can continue on with the cause. Very important information I think people have to see.

 

Well Germar look, you did a great job with all this information. And again, like I said, you’re probably the top man doing it today. And we look to you in the future to get more information out there to even Whittle it down to get it even more concise, so that people can actually see more information.

 

Germar Rudolf: Video production. You know, images tell more than a thousand words and getting it presented in good documentaries is a challenge now. Because I had to switch on getting the book series, all our ducks in a row for releasing the hard covers. I had to put video production on halt.

 

And finding people who actually can chip in there is very difficult. Volunteering is a challenge on several levels. Because, if we want to have anyone help us, we need to be able to trust people on several levels. Because helping us with anything requires us giving them access to something. And there’s so much hostility and false friends out there, who just want to get the foot in the door in order to do damage! We need to be very careful with who we actually accept.

 

And then there’s the problem of reliability. Anyone volunteering, but then bailing out of project halfway down. This is happening, I would say, 80% of the time. Somebody volunteers and it ends up falling flat.

 

So this is a real problem. Right now it’s not so much that we have lack of manpower than we have a lack of financial resources to actually finance the people we already have that help us.

 

Because the end of the day, you get what you pay for. And a million volunteers that are unpaid sometimes do more damage than they do good [chuckling]! So at the end you need to pay people.

 

And that’s the switch that we had in CODOH also, the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust. When Bradley Smith did it, almost everything was done on a volunteer basis. And we switched that model over. We’re trying to run it as a company. And so keep strict quality control, and security, and profitability, up there, because otherwise the money just goes away without doing much. And that works much better.

 

But we have to, at the end of the day, we need to pay bills. And that’s where the biggest constraint is.

 

Jim Rizoli: Yeah, well you’re doing a great job Germar! I always enjoy talking with you. And again hopefully people will react and get more involved in some way here. And that’s my hope that this will happen.

 

Okay Germar. Thank you for being on my show today, and update us if you have something that we should know about, let me know. Because then I can send it out, or we could do another interview, or talk to you some more about it, or whatever.

 

But, whatever information you have that you think is important for us to know, … Because we get this out every week. Diane and I, she puts the newsletter together and gets our videos out, and gets the information out. So people see it every week. So it’s important for people to see that.

 

Okay everyone. I want to thank you for watching our video. I’m Jim Rizoli with Germar Rudolf, and we appreciate you watching. And again we’ll talk to you another time. Bye now.

 

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• 4 days ago

  rambetter

  Jim you have all the best guests on your show.  Fred Leuchter and Germar Rudolf.  Major credit to you.  <3

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• 4 days ago

  Uptake

  Thank you very much for this upload. The Holocaust Handbook series are gold. I hope he would carry on publishing more and more until he leaves no stone unturned in this topic, even if that takes a thousand volumes!  In some cultures, very niche topics are covered in hundreds of volumes, each volume composed of over a thousand pages. It is only in Western culture that people are disinclined to write too much, sadly because we live in a part of the world where reading for the purpose of education is not ingrained in culture. People simply cannot read except in pursuit of entertainment and so publishers and authors often keep their educational books and their volumes short.  This man clearly does what he does not in pursuit of money but the truth, people such as this deserve investment. They deserve platforming. They deserve empowerment, but you often find them ostracised and marginalised, exploited and abused. This part of the world that we live in is undeserving of people such as this. This is why it is in the continuous decline that it is in.  I have not been researching the holocaust for a long time. In fact, I am new to this journey in history and in politics. I am so happy to have come across these handbooks today. I will be investing in them and I encourage others to do the same, if they haven’t already of course, because I know many in this field know this man and unlike me are already acquainted with his series of books.  [show less]

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• 4 days ago

  Fakenukes

  ABX is conspicuously missing from this discussion….she’s scrolling through Wikipedia to find a way to discredit Germar, LOL

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  • 4 days ago

    Marcus CeltOrwell’s Daughter

    LOL Im gonna have nightmares tonight

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  • 4 days ago

    Orwell’s DaughterMarcus Celt

    You’ve been Stockholm Syndromed by Babs

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• 4 days ago

  Fakenukes

  Leave the ones where she makes death threats….keep em up for everyone to see

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• 4 days ago

  @abx0018b50b

  Jim, please stop telling the truth and giving a platform to knowledgeable guests. You are making our job of deceiving the masses very difficult. You types should just stop.

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    drumbum

    LOL

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    Marcus Celt

    https://i.imgur.com/pV1MQvy.gif

    

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  • 4 days ago

    SafariSam USA

    I like your 1st Statement, at least your being Honest now.  I respect that.  But Jim Should NOT “stop”.

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    SafariSam USAMarcus Celt

    Did they Not have Bagels back then?

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    @abx0018b50cSafariSam USA

    Mr not so bright that isn’t my username

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  • 2 days ago

    papasha408@abx0018b50c

    You are an incorrigible liar and a jerk with no sense of proportion.  Do everyone a favor and ef off!

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• 4 days ago

  Orwell’s Daughter

  Germar’s material has helped me open the eyes of several people. As a doctor, I have a few colleagues who aren’t total lemmings. I sent them to Germar’s website & they were amazed. Thanks Germar. You are one of the only White men left.

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  • 4 days ago

    Jim Rizoli

    Germar is a brilliant person anybody that does not see that I don’t know what to tell you he knows his stuff.

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• 4 days ago

  SafariSam USA

  I talked to a guy the other day who had a German last name, and he said he didnt understand how “Everyone wants to be like Hitler”.  So I told him some of the Holocaust Revisionists story.  He didnt seem mad, and actually I think I gave him something to think about and Research.  Amazing, the More I follow this subject,  the more Ridiculous the “Official Jooz’s” Story becomes.  And I’m a Recovering “Holocaust Believer”, Rehabilitated.  Well I Never verbally assaulted a Holocaust Denier because I’m a Very Open Minded Person.  Actually I thought it was a Joke at first, but the more i listened and Read the Books the More it made sense. [show less]

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    @abx0018b50c

    Did you spew a series of lies like you usually do??

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  • 4 days ago

    Jochen88@abx0018b50c

    Here comes the flood of filth…..

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  • 2 days ago

    papasha408@abx0018b50c

    Why don’t you bugger off and bother some other site?  This guy is a Hasbara Troll!!!

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• 4 days ago

  SafariSam USA

  You know what, the Bible does say the Antichrist will turn on the Jews during the Tribulation period.  So its possible.  And the Antichrist will be a Jew.  1 John 2:22“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

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• 4 days ago

  Fredziffle108

  do they take credit card?

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  • 2 days ago

    papasha408

    Yes, they do!!

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• 4 days ago

  Regensordo

  The handbooks are a massive achievement.

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• 4 days ago

  Fredziffle108

  Hunt’s work on Majdanek was sooo good

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• 4 days ago

  RebellischerCherub

  fred Leuchter is art professor?

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• 4 days ago

  TrueHistory

  Excellent interview with Germar, these books are great I have them all, look forward to the hard cover Hand books, keep up the good work. The truth will always come through.

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• 4 days ago

  Revision

  THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. NOT SOME CONSPIRACY BS.

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• 4 days ago

  4thAmendment

  inclusive Arabs/Palestinians Semite GOYim exclusion A Discussion on the Evil Liability Talmud barf sQuad of faKe Enron’s/vanGUARD/blac rocK on & on a disEASE Religion of god of FORCEs – Charles Guliani target=”_blank”>https://www.goyimtv.tv/v/3770109016/A-Discussion-on-the-Evil-Talmud—Charles-Guliani [show less]

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• 4 days ago

  niemsong

  Two heroes of mine JIM and GERMAR! Everyone needs to hear this!

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• 4 days ago

  SafariSam USA

  Galileo likewise defied the Pope by Stating the Earth Revolved/orbited around the Sun by using Science and Mathematics.  Here’s an article from the Hitler Channel, I mean History Channel.  https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/galileo-is-accused-of-heresy ;; If we dont learn from True History, we are doomed to repeat it.  And today we know the Pope was a Bigoted, Close Minded Fool.[show less]

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  • 18 hours ago

    BolshevikSlayer

    the heliocentric model is a complete farce. Sir George Biddell Airy demonstrated this fact with an experiment that has been called Aire’s failure. It was a failure because he set out to show that the earth revolved around the sun. His experiment proved the opposite. Michaelson and [show more]

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• 2 days ago

  papasha408

  Hello Germar.  I’m a big fan.  You are so needed in this ridiculous world we live in today!

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