Well hello everybody. Welcome back to another Morgcast, which I haven’t done for a few weeks because a few things have got in the way.

 

I’ve been working on another script for a longer video. And I wanted to just take the opportunity, … The reason why I set up this podcast was mainly just so I could get into things without doing a load of editing, and it will be a little more off the cuff. Not that well organized. And where I could kind of just let me thoughts flow about things without worrying too much about censorship, like on YouTube, and things like that.

 

And one of the things that’s been on my mind and is on my mind more, and more, is this, the Great Reset, and how it ties in with the Covid and the vaccine passports, and all these kinds of things. And I find it’s just this cloud that kind of keeps coming and it keeps getting worse, and worse! By now I’ve actually done quite a bit of content on this. But I’m surprised that how few other people in my circuit, in this scene, they just don’t seem that interested in it, or at least as not as paranoid about it as I am. But I thought nevertheless I’m gonna carry on, [chuckling] anyway!

 

And one of the things you’ll hear from the people who do talk about this you’ll see links to the World Economic Forum being passed around, articles and clips, and things.

 

And so I thought it would be interesting to actually take a look at one of these articles. Like what is it that they’re saying? What’s actually in the text? And I’d heard of the “Fourth Industrial Revolution” before. I’d heard of “The Internet of Things” before. But I hadn’t heard of the “Internet of Bodies” before.

 

 

Now, just the title “The Internet of Bodies” sounds absolutely horrific to me! And they’ve got this article here which I thought would be interesting to take a look on and kind of go off on tangents and things as we go through it. And it says:

 

“The Internet of Bodies is here. This is how it could change our lives.”

 

And it’s written by a Chinese named Xiao Liu. A Fellow at The Center for the Fourth Industrial Revolution World Economic Forum. So the thing is they’re not trying to hide it either. I think it’s fair to come out and like do away with a conspiracy kind of stuff. Even though, … Like that’s the weird thing, when you talk about this it does have the aura of a conspiracy about it. Yeah, it’s just up there on the website, you know.

 

And then you can have a look at what’s going on in the real world, and the vaccine passports and things. I’m sure I’ll get onto that. And you can have a look at what they’re saying on their own website. They’re not trying to hide it!

 

And another thing is, which I’m also going to touch on here, is that you can even argue that this is a good thing. Like these people don’t think they’re evil. They’re not, you know, I mean, Tony Blair is like the worst of the worst! And he’s all involved with this. Then you’ve got that Klaus Schwab, and you’ve got these other people.

 

When they tuck themselves into their beds at night, in their mansions, or their sort of high-rise flats and apartments, like they’ve gotten in Manhattan, or wherever, it is. They don’t actually think they’re evil. They think they are doing the world a service. And when you look into this, when you read what they’re saying, you can kind of understand the reasoning behind it.

 

And so the Internet of Bodies article here. It just says, I mean, this is how it kicks off. And this is again like Xiao Liu a Fellow at The Center for the Fourth Industrial Revolution World Economic Forum. So the Fourth Industrial Revolution is basically where everything is going to be hooked up to the internet. And everything is going to be automated. And so that it kicks off and they say:

 

“We’re entering the era of the ‘Internet of Bodies’: Collecting our physical data via a range of devices that can be implanted, swallowed or worn.”

 

So yes, straight away it’s about imposing this on you. So a device that you’re gonna swallow, or they’re gonna implant it – again this is right there on their article – or worn. And the idea of this is that it’s gonna track everything about you. And the way they’re going to frame this is mainly in terms of “health”..

 

So then it says:

 

“The result is a huge amount of health-related data that could improve human wellbeing around the world, and prove crucial in fighting the COVID-19 pandemic.”

 

So Covid’s right at the heart of all of this. And I’m not the first person to point out that it is quite convenient:

 

“But a number of risks and challenges must be addressed to realize the potential of this technology, from privacy issues to practical hurdles.”

 

So they want to bring in the Internet of Bodies. And it’s going to explain what that is. But they are aware that there’s people pushing back. More people locally. I mean, thankfully that there is now a bit of a backlash against this stuff. But so then the article begins in earnest. And it says:

 

“In the special wards of Shanghai’s Public Health Clinical Center, nurses use smart thermometers to check the temperatures of COVID-19 patients. Each person’s temperature is recorded with a sensor, reducing the risk of infection through contact, and the data is sent to an observation dashboard. An abnormal result triggers an alert to medical staff, who can then intervene promptly. The gathered data also allows medics to analyse trends over time.”

 

[06:27]

 

So if you think of the smart thermometer. So you’ve got a thermometer that’s hooked up to the internet. And then it’s also an automated service which is looking at the health of a patient. So instead of having a nurse wandering around taking notes all the time, it’ll all be hooked up.

 

Now this sounds benign! And they’re really gonna hammer this, because they realize this is the carrot! This is like the sweetener. This is the cherry on the cake. The incentive to make it look benign. And yeah they’ve got their arguments for it.:

 

“The smart thermometers are designed by VivaLNK, a Silicon-Valley based startup, and are a powerful example of the many digital products and services that are revolutionizing healthcare. After the Internet of Things, which transformed the way we live, …”

 

I mean, that’s an interesting way to put it, because I’m obviously – if you’re watching this – you’ll know that I’m don’t like technology. And I complain about it’s effects on the world quite a bit. And I’m basically doing it again here. But I mean, the way they’ve put this like:

 

“After the Internet of Things, which transformed the way we live, travel and work by connecting everyday objects to the Internet.”

 

That hasn’t happened where I am! I mean, my telephone is like five years old. I’m not even sure if I could handle all this stuff. I don’t have tags. And what they mean, I mean, an example of the internet of things is where, … Let’s say your fridge. You order your food via the internet. And then like the idea is that you’ll have a “smart fridge”. So the smart fridge will then be keeping track of the things in the fridge. And then they’ll have like a tag on. So the fridge will be able to warn you if say that the butter is going out of date, or something like that. Then the fridge can say:

 

“Well you’ve got this, and this.”

 

Or the fridge will prioritize it and say:

 

“Well, this is the oldest stuff. So this is what you need to be using.”

 

What the internet of things, the Internet of Bodies is going to do, is then take up one step further and then see how this is going to affect your health. So they’ve just said before you’ll be hooked up. They’re gonna mention smart watches in a bit. But you’re gonna be hooked up to the internet.

 

 

So you all of your things in the house will be, the fridge let’s say, in this example, that’s going to be hooked up to the internet. The fridge will then be detecting the things that are in it. And how long they’ve been there. It’s possible that the fridge will also just automatically sort of contact the supermarket for you and then put in your own weekly shop, for example.

 

But then at a different level what’s also going to be logged is your body itself and what your body’s actually taking in! So, and if you’ve got an implant or a smart watch, whatever it happens to be, then you go from ordering your shopping. I mean, it used to be the case where you just go to the supermarket and buy it. I mean, I still do. And then it’s like that will be done on the internet. The fridge will be hooked up on the internet. The food inside will be hooked up on the internet. And then your body is going to be hooked up to the internet.

 

And all of these things are going to – which they’re going to come to a minute – it’s going to be this like huge sprawl of data which can be analyzed. But we are not there yet. I think they’re getting a bit carried away in terms of the internet of things. So anyway, they go on and say:

 

“Some of these solutions, such as fitness trackers, are an extension of the Internet of Things. But because the Internet of Bodies centres on the human body and health, it also raises its own specific set of opportunities and challenges, from privacy issues to legal and ethical questions.”

 

So again, like written right into the heart of this, is human health. So if you go out jogging, for example, if you go out for a morning jog what they call fitness trackers will be logging that. That will be more data and information about your body! And then you’ll come back and you’ll maybe have a shower. Having the shower will also be an internet process. And it will be sort of set in there on what temperature you like to have the shower.

 

[11:16]

 

And when you put the two things together with your implant, or your smart watch, if you’re jogging back home it may be that the shower will begin to turn itself on, or something like that. That’s where they’re gonna go. I mean, it seems to me that it’s a hell of a lot of things, as they would have it, that need to be replaced.

 

Like I mean, I’ve got nothing that can deal with any of this! My stuff’s all ancient! And I’m fine with it. But I suppose something like a fridge is closer there, than a shower. It seems to me it’ll be quite a bit of work to automate the shower. But the idea is everything will be automated and done via the internet. And I think it’s a good thing. So before everybody gets like paranoid like, they don’t see this as being “bad”. And it says:

 

“It also raises its own specific set of opportunities and challenges, from privacy issues to legal and ethical questions.”

 

Then they’ve got this sort of graph here:

 

“Most consumers are open to the use of digital in healthcare.”

 

And then they’ve got this big list of, … Just a few of them, I mean, “search for doctor ratings and reviews”, which is all digital. “Pay my health insurance bills” is digital. “Monitor my daily health metrics” is already digital. Mine isn’t! “Search hospital, or health system ratings and reviews. Order prescriptions. Search for a doctor.”

 

 

All of these things. There’s a lot of them there. So they’re saying that all of these things are already digital. I mean that seems to be a bit of a stretch. Because, at the end of the day that’s just googling like what doctors are in your area. So is that really the same thing as having a database of your information on which could be tracked? I don’t think so.

 

The next section says:

 

“Connecting our bodies. As futuristic as the Internet of Bodies may seem, …”

 

I mean, I just can’t believe that term:

 

“Many people are already connected to it through wearable devices. The smartwatch segment alone has grown into a $13 billion market by 2018, and is projected to increase another 32% to $18 billion by 2021. Smart toothbrushes and even hairbrushes can also let people track patterns in their personal care and behaviour.”

 

So I mean, I don’t have any hair brushes, because I don’t have any hair! But the smart tooth brushes, you can see again like the information which will be going through the toothbrush will be how many times a day that you’re brushing your teeth, and how much toothpaste that you’re using. So this is the internet of things.

 

A toothbrush will be a thing. And then like, how are you doing it, right? Or do you need to replace the toothbrush? Or even like what is the current state of your dental care? So this will be reported, then it connects with the Internet of Bodies, and then it’ll go into the data bank on you.:

 

“For health professionals, the Internet of Bodies opens the gate to a new era of effective monitoring and treatment.”

 

So yeah, [chuckling] so the internet will be monitoring your health for you and then suggesting treatment. So you may have a cracked tooth, or something like that. Eventually it’ll pick it up and report it into the database [chuckling], maybe:

 

“In 2017, the U.S. Federal Drug Administration approved the first use of digital pills in the United States. Digital pills contain tiny, ingestible sensors, as well as medicine. Once swallowed, the sensor is activated in the patient’s stomach and transmits data to their smartphone or other devices.”

 

So this is already in play in 2017. So you then swallow a sensor, and it activates in the stomach. The data which it’s picking up about your body then goes onto your phone, your smartphone, or other devices. Maybe a laptop, or something. And so, I mean, I still wouldn’t be interested in that. But at least in this case it seems that it’s kind of like just you and your computer. But they want to hook that up to the internet as a whole.:

 

“In 2018, Kaiser Permanente, a healthcare provider in California, started a virtual rehab program for patients recovering from heart attacks. The patients shared their data with their care providers through a smartwatch, allowing for better monitoring and a closer, more continuous relationship between patient and doctor. Thanks to this innovation, the completion rate of the rehab program rose from less than 50% to 87%, accompanied by a fall in the readmission rate and programme cost.”

 

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[16:26]

 

So, if you’ve got health problems this will seem like a good thing! So this is the positive side of it. This is the way they’re trying to sell. This, you know, it’s all very well, if you’re fit and healthy and you say:

 

“Well I don’t need any of this garbage!”

 

But, you know, especially for old people, people with illnesses, this will be good for them. And I think if people are going to be critical about this, or scared of it, you have to think, you have to sort of confront it on its own terms. You can’t of just pretend it’s a bunch of evil demons. Like if you’ve got a sick relative and they’re housebound, this is good stuff for them. So let’s not pretend that that isn’t the case:

 

“The deluge of data collected through such technologies is advancing our understanding of how human behaviour, lifestyle and environmental conditions affect our health. It has also expanded the notion of healthcare beyond the hospital or surgery and into everyday life. This could prove crucial in fighting the Coronavirus pandemic. Keeping track of symptoms could help us stop the spread of infection, and quickly detect new cases. Researchers are investigating whether data gathered from smartwatches and similar devices can be used as viral infection alerts by tracking the user’s heart rate and breathing. At the same time, this complex and evolving technology raises new regulatory challenges.”

 

So this is really what they’re getting at, is that the internet of things is, as they would say, is a “done deal”! They need to have your body hooked up to it. And then that will then alert the various authorities to the state of your health.

 

Now the thing is like they’re basically changing everything about how we live, to keep people safe, as if people are like really weak. Because I mentioned just before about well if you are in a bad way, this stuff may be useful to us. But they want to bring it in for everybody, all across the board, whether you’re fit, or not! This is just going to be, this is just the Great Reset! So everybody will be hooked up to the internet and being monitored all of the time! And they’re selling it as:

 

“Well, it’s going to be good for your health!”

 

So in my view it makes people into babies. But if you look at the way they’ve came out with Covid, they’ve used the same logic as well. And it’s like:

 

“Well, we have to shut things down, because we have to keep people sort of safe. We have to prevent people from catching this! We have to stop people from dying!”

 

And you see that you are kind of like a child. And you do have this kind of big system, this Big Brother system taking care of you like you’re a little baby. And they want to have this is a permanent feature of everybody’s lives, where everybody is being monitored, everybody’s got an implant, a smart watch to begin with. And you’re taking care of your pulse. It’s seeing how active you’re being. It’s looking at the state of your heart rate.

 

You’ll take your little implant and swallow it and it’ll sit in your stomach. So then it’s maybe going to know if you’ve got some kind of cancer. And what you’re going to pay for that is, … Well this is what they’re going to come on to, because there’s problems with the implementation. And it says:

 

“What counts as health information? In most countries, strict regulations exist around personal health information such as medical records and blood or tissue samples. However, these conventional regulations often fail to cover the new kind of health data generated through the Internet of Bodies, and the entities gathering and processing this data.”

 

[20:50]

 

So the problem they’ve got is that basically it’s not allowed [chuckling]! It’s not allowed to do this [laughing]! Because the health legislation. Again like, it’s just this obsession with the health, bodily health! I just find it just speaks to such a weak population that they’re so obsessive about not falling ill. But they get you in a bind because then they’re gonna say:

 

“Well, you don’t care about people?”

 

Or:

 

“Would you do this if you were dying?”

 

But the problem that they’ve got is a lot of the legislation was written decades and decades ago, before this technology existed. And that is now sort of standing in the way of them bringing this in. So he says:

 

“In the United States, the 1996 Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA), which is the major law for health data regulation, applies only to medical providers, health insurers, and their business associations.”

 

So the standard sort of practice in the Western world was that somebody’s data on health would be kind of kept very private. I mean, in the case of the health insurers that’s already a little bit of a leak, I suppose. But I don’t know how you get around that. But this little legislation is standing in the way basically. That’s what he’s getting at here.

 

And they need to find a way around it, or they need to find somehow to undermine it, so then your health information, … Which is to say, by the way, like this is just the thin end of the wedge. It’s going to be everything about how you live. But I’ll come on with that:

 

“This definition is turning out to be inadequate for the era of the Internet of Bodies.”

 

So what he’s saying is that the legislation is out of date. You know, it doesn’t occur to him for a second to say that the Internet of Bodies is like a bad idea, or unethical, or intrusive, or overreaching, or anything like that. No! It’s the previous legislation that’s a problem is what he’s saying:

 

“Tech companies are now also offering health-related products and services, and gathering data.”

 

Which, you know, they do. So this is like being tracked. And then targeted advertising and that kind of thing. Let’s just say, like I had an accident last year, I ended up getting burned. And then you look for creams on the internet, or your maybe I’m talking about it in an email with somebody. Then that gets picked up. And then you’ll find that the next thing you’re on the internet you’re being bombarded with like creams, different creams for burns, or some fancy bandages, and this kind of thing. So what he’s saying is that this kind of thing already exists. Your data is already being picked up. So like what difference does it make?:

 

“Tech companies are now also offering health-related products and services, and gathering data. Margaret Riley, a professor of health law at the University of Virginia, pointed out to me in an interview that this Act (HIPPA) does not cover the masses of data from consumer wearables, for example.”

 

So yeah, what they’re saying is that you can’t really complain about the internet of things, well the Internet of Bodies, primarily because the internet of things has already got your private data. Your private data has already been pissed all over the place, because of the internet of things [chuckling] which is coming in! So that it’s like there’s no point in complaining about it now! We’ve already traveled so far down this road, why not just go all the way? And put an implant in your stomach which tracks what you’re eating?:

 

“Another problem is that the current regulations only look at whether the data is sensitive in itself, not whether it can be used to generate sensitive information. For example, the result of a blood test in a hospital will generally be classified as sensitive data, because it reveals private information about your personal health. But today, all sorts of seemingly non-sensitive data can also be used to draw inferences about your health, through data analytics.”

 

So yeah, again like it goes back to if you’re ordering your shopping off the internet, then they kind of know what you’ve ordered, they know what your consumer habits are. The data is already being picked up probably through by your bank details. So they know what you’re buying.

 

[25:52]

 

But what’s going to happen, because they’ve already implied this at the beginning of the article. So let’s just take the example that you’re out for a jog, and you slightly overdo it. And your smartphone, you know, it’s too hot, you’ve gone too far, you’re getting overheated, or whatever. And then your smartwatch, maybe will start to buzz. And like say like:

 

“You’re going to have to sit down for five minutes and have a drink of water, because you’re reaching your Max here.”

 

The problem is like once we’ve hooked up everything else, once we’ve hooked up our food, and our fridge, and our the bank details. Like am I gonna get a warning if like I’m sitting on a Friday night, am I gonna get a warning? Is my implant gonna buzz when I reach for like the third bottle of Crafty Old Hen? Will it will it be that I’ve reached the Max? How does that work? What about if I have two bacon sandwiches, in two days in a row? Will the fridge buzz to say that I’m eating too much bacon?

 

 

Like, is it going to be like 2001 Space Odyssey? Where you’ve got HAL advising you, like [chuckling] a little robot? Advising you not to take the third bottle of Crafty Old Hen?:

 

“You’ve already reached your limit Dave!”

 

Is this what this is about? So they’re saying:

 

“But today, all sorts of seemingly non-sensitive data can also be used to draw inferences about your health, through data analytics. (((Glenn Cohen))), …”

 

[Laughing] I mean, a lot of people haven’t been interested in all this stuff, because they didn’t have, … My take on why so few people in the nationalist scene don’t seem to be very interested in all of this stuff was, because there wasn’t a clear, there doesn’t seem to be loads of (((Cohens))) at the top of it.:

 

“A professor at Harvard Law school, told me, …”

 

Mr Cohen there, …:

 

“Told me in an interview that even data that is not about health at all, such as grocery shopping lists, can be used for such inferences.”

 

So they’re going to say if your shopping list is full of donuts, and all this, then the data will be run through the system and checked off. And it will be yeah:

 

“You eat unhealthily!”

 

Now, are they then gonna sort of make a judgment on that? Well yeah, that’s the big thing, isn’t it? Is it gonna be benign, or is it that you’re going to be constantly bombarded with messages telling you like – just to keep with the example of donuts – will you get a message, or a little warning that you’re eating too many donuts?:

 

“As a result, conventional regulations may fail to cover data that is sensitive and private, simply because it did not look sensitive before it was processed.”

 

So again this is the thing where they’re saying:

 

“Well we’ve already come this far already.”

 

Then it’s:

 

“Data risks – Identifying and protecting sensitive data matters, because it can directly affect how we are treated by institutions and other people. With big data analytics, countless day-to-day actions and decisions can ultimately feed into our health profile, which may be created and maintained not just by traditional healthcare providers, but also by tech companies or other entities.”

 

[29:42]

 

I mean, what we’re going to have like Google take care of your health now? Or some internet app.

 

Is now going to be in charge of your health? And all of the data? I mean, yeah:

 

“May be created and maintained not just by traditional healthcare providers, but also by tech companies or other entities.”

 

I mean that’s kind of already here I suppose:

 

“Without appropriate laws and regulations, it could also be sold. At the same time, data from the Internet of Bodies can be used to make predictions and inferences that could affect a person’s or group’s access to resources such as healthcare, insurance and employment.”

 

So this is what I just mentioned. There’s the potential there that you will be judged on how you live. Like not how you perform in the job, but about you as a person. About what you eat. I mean, look we can come on to that. I know what people are thinking.

 

Let’s just for now stick with the issue on health. Because what they’re saying is the potential will be there to discriminate against you. So if you’re a boss, like you’ve got two employees. One of them is a heavy drinker. He doesn’t take care of himself. He doesn’t exercise very much. And the other fella’s like really super fit! All of the stuff he’s eaten, … And then the employer can look that up. There’ll be a way for the employer to think:

 

“Well, I like the guy who sits and has a high protein milkshake on a Friday night, more than the one who’s reaching for the third bottle of Crafty Old Hen.”

 

This is what they say. It’s a fear, but it seems to me all this amounts to is taking one more step. So they keep going these different steps:

 

“Well, we’ve got the internet of things, it seems sensible to have the Internet of Bodies! Oh we’ve got the Internet of Bodies, so now we can maximize efficiency around who’s healthy and who isn’t.”

 

So then goes on. It says:

 

“The affected people may not even be aware of this.”

 

So you wouldn’t even know why you’d been turned down. But, because you’re not going to be judged. You know, in the old days you’d go along for a job interview. And it was kind of like who had the best patter. Who had the best bullshit! Who could sort of kind of manipulate the boss, or whatever.

 

Now like with this, what they’d be saying like, this is what this is moving towards is that you as a person don’t actually exist. What exists is a set of algorithms and a spread of data, which will be just glanced down. You will just be data on a file. You’re just a mass of algorithms and numbers. And they’re going to be able to run down it and see which ones they like, which ones they don’t.

 

So this raises the question of, like is this ethical? And they’re going to move on and say:

 

“One solution would be to update the regulations. Sandra Wachter and Brent Mittelstadt, two scholars at the Oxford Internet Institute, suggest that data protection law should focus more on how and why data is processed, and not just on its raw state.”

 

So then it would the boss, and to keep on with this example, would have to ask why he had that data, or why he needed it. But the problem with that, … I mean, that’s weak!:

 

“They argue for a so-called ‘right to reasonable inferences’, meaning the right to have your data used only for reasonable, socially acceptable inferences.”

 

Now I’m calling bullshit on this right from the start! Because what is, or is not, socially acceptable in the West today changes like the wind! It changes like the weather! I mean, if you look at like a few years ago, nobody was talking about trannies. And yet now it’s just everywhere! It’s the media who decides what is, or not, socially acceptable. Because, if you raise an objection, you’ll just be platformed and ignored, or worse!

 

So I find this whole thing here socially repulsive! I find this not acceptable at all! I don’t find any of this creeping technology and the idea that you’re gonna reduce the person down to like an algorithm. I don’t find that acceptable at all!

 

But I haven’t got any choice in the matter, because what is, or is not acceptable is decided from the top! And then it drips down through the media. And then it sort of gets the normies on side. I mean, I’m pretty convinced. I mean, I’d love to see just how insane they could, … Like you see things coming out now about like beef with human DNA in it, or whatever.

 

Like just as a sort of mental exercise would it be possible, … Because, I mean, my sort of contempt for the normies has reached like maximum by this point, after witnessing the last few years. And it gets to the point where you realize they’ll just do what they’re told! They’ll just do what the media tells them.

 

You can even speak to normal people in the real world. And you can even know if they read The Daily Mail, or if they watch the BBC. So somebody, I mean, usually it will be a man who reads The Daily Mail. And I can tell by what he’s saying and his general attitude and things, that this is a Daily Mail reader. This is where he gets his information from.

 

I can also tell when it’s somebody’s more likely to be the BBC. So it’s not like an exact science, but I kind of get it. And so their opinions on the world are just being molded by the media. The media is itself then the sort of the propaganda wing of the those in power at the top.

 

[36:07]

 

So when they say:

 

“Well socially acceptable.”

 

Like that’s not acceptable! Because what is, or is not, socially acceptable, it’s just a matter of whatever the media wants! Would it be possible for the media to normalize cannibalism?

 

 

Because you see something coming in. I mean, I had this with “White Privilege Theory” years ago. And you think:

 

“Well, this can’t come in. This is obviously bullshit! This can’t grow legs! And here we are! Every institution, every education center, big documentaries on the television. Can you do that on cannibalism? Can the media normalize cannibalism?”

 

I mean, another one which is similar again is eating the maggots, eating bugs! Which is related to this. Are they going to normalize that? They’re already doing it. They’re already slowly smoothing the way, and sort of rewiring the brain of the masses, so that all of a sudden:

 

“Well, why not?”

 

And I know how they do it as well. They’ve got this sort of post-modernist kind of way of approaching it, which undermines the a priori assumption which went before it. Like:

 

“Well, why not?”

 

See there’s social standards that we’re used to. Like say eating maggot sausages, or something. Now the reason why we don’t do that, is like, is it rational? So then, when you go back:

 

“Well, we just we don’t do it, because we just don’t do it!”

 

It’s like that’s just the way things are. But you see that’s where the post modernism kicks in and says:

 

“So you can’t really explain it.”

 

So it’s like it doesn’t really make sense, and you begin to see this undercutting of these narratives. That’s why it’s so toxic.

 

So I mean, just in terms of like social acceptance, like forget it! They’ll just normalize it through the media:

 

“This would involve setting standards on whether and when inferring certain information from a person’s data, including the state of their present or future health, is socially acceptable or overly invasive.”

 

Like once again, that will be decided by manipulation, anyway.

 

The next section, which I think is the last one, is called “Practical Problems”:

 

“Apart from the concerns over privacy and sensitivity, there are also a number of practical problems in dealing with the sheer volume of data generated by the Internet of Bodies. The lack of standards around security and data processing makes it difficult to combine data from diverse sources, and use it to advance research. Different countries and institutions are trying to jointly overcome this problem. The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) and it’s Standards Association have been working with the US Food & Drug Administration (FDA), National Institutes of Health, as well as universities and businesses among other stakeholders since 2016, to address the security and interoperability issue of connected health.”

 

So this comes down to trying to centralize all this. Because if America is operating under certain conditions, certain legislation, certain rules, certain internet providers, and all of this. And then say Europe, and China, and Russia, … And this is a problem, they need to kind of sync all of this up.:

 

“As the Internet of Bodies spreads into every aspect of our existence, [chuckling] we are facing a range of new challenges. But we also have an unprecedented chance to improve our health and well-being, and save countless lives.”

 

Again, I mean, let’s not get carried away about the vaccine at the moment. But, is it worth it then? It it worth it to be sort of in the matrix, like hooked up to the internet, everything you do, everything you eat, how often you go to the toilet? And you’re being monitored by your own devices, your body, your physical health, you’re just being monitored all of the time!

 

Now, will that result in a healthier society? Well, probably it will, to be honest. But is there something missing? Is this what humans are all about? So then it moves on again. And it says:

 

“During the COVID-19 crisis, using this opportunity and finding solutions to the challenges is a more urgent task than ever. This relies on government agencies and legislative bodies working with the private sector and civil society to create a robust governance framework, and to include inferences in the realm of data protection.”

 

[41:20]

 

So what they’re doing is bringing in the entire system. So the government is then going to work with say the financial sector. And the financial sector will work with the media, and then law. And all of these things are going to be interconnected and pushing in the same way. What the Neo-reactions call “The Cathedral”. Like this is it! This is how it works! Each node of this network will reinforce the other nodes to make the narrative inevitable.

 

So what people tend to do is push back against one kind of node in particular. If you take the example of Donald Trump getting elected it’s like one sort of part of that network took a fall there. In this case it was like the government, the political. It took a bit of a beating there, because they didn’t want him in. And then what steps in is that all of the other nodes sort of step in to pick up the load, and undermine him on all sides.

 

And this is what they’re gonna do as far as this is concerned. And you see them all in lockstep. It’s bad! Like it’s really bad! Because it’s like this huge network that you’re up against. And it’s difficult. You can have a temporary win over one part of it. But you can’t take it all on, all of the time. Which is why like, once you really wrap your head around this it does kind of lead you to think:

 

“What do we do? What do we do about this?”

 

Because, if you were to win an election and declare a dictatorship, you’d have to have one hell of a powerful state. And you’d also have to be dragging people off to jail. Because then you’re going to be in the situation where one of the nodes has to overwhelm all of the other ones, and this kind of thing.

 

 

So what he’s saying here is that all of these different institutions have to get on board and push in the same direction. Which also, they do say, like keep in mind the data protection and this kind of thing. I’m not convinced! Because I don’t trust any of these people! But more than that is that I just don’t like the thinking! I don’t like the logic and the reasoning behind any of this! So:

 

“The key is to collaborate across borders and sectors to fully realize the enormous benefits of this rapidly advancing technology.”

 

So it’s going to be global, as well. So you’re going to have a global internet of things and bodies, which will all be interconnected. And that’s been, you know, I know people are going to say:

 

“Well it’s been like that for 20 years.”

 

It was like that in some ways. But what they’re doing now is like where the implant in your skin, and what you’re eating in your fridge, and everything, it’s all going to be hooked up to this data set.

 

Now the problem that they’ve got, is how to bring this in. Because sooner, or later, it seems to me, that there has to be a direct implementation of an ID which would make all of this much easier. Otherwise it would be too scattered.

 

And yeah, so this could be the vaccine passport. Because even though the Covid itself is like drifting away now, they talk about the vaccine passports is only now really getting off the ground. So if you’ve got a vaccine passport then there’s the “Digital You”. And again they’ve used health. You’ll see in this article that it’s all about “health”. Because it puts you in a bind where it’s like:

 

“Well do you want to have all of these people die off? We could save so many people! And people who are in danger of having a heart attack, if they’re hooked up to the Internet of Bodies they’ll be alerted to that, because their body will transmit the data.”

 

[45:36]

 

Your body is just a data set which is being monitored. And then it will be reported back to your smartphone, or your device, as they call it, and it will all be alerted.

 

This is a Social Credit system. That’s what this is. Because all it’s lacking is a judgmental sort of consciousness. But I don’t even think they need to do that, because everything you do is gonna build up an online picture of you.

 

And that’s certainly gonna be like what you actually watch on the internet. What you read. Even I mean, eventually if you read a book, or something like that. Because, if you order an edgy book off Amazon – well you won’t get one on Amazon! If you use your bank to order some edgy book off Imperial Press, then that’s going to be logged, because you’ve used your bank card, you’ve used your bank details, and that too will be part of your data set. That will then be logged. They’ll see that you’ve done that.

 

So then they’re going to say:

 

“Well okay this, …”

 

Then the data will be run through the system. And let’s just say you ordered said some reprint of a Julius Evola book, or something. You know, Revolt Against the Modern World, which seems quite fitting [chuckling] in this particular case, then that book itself will be run against more algorithms. And it’ll start and set off alarm bells and it’ll be like.:

 

“This is something that the far-Right read. This is far-Right literature! Julius Evola was a fascist!”

 

And then these little bells will start to ring. And then that will be against you as well. And that seems minor. But I mean, I’m doing this video here and just yesterday you see that people are being blocked from airplanes. You’re travel banned.

 

In China, which is just like one, or two, steps further along the line on this, that would be automated. It would be automatic where you:

 

“Well you’ve just dropped below the line! You can’t, I’m sorry. But there’s a bit of a problem there.”

 

At least in the case of say Nick Fuentes, it’s directly related. He’s well known, he’s outspoken. You’ve got what happened on January 6 and everything. So there’s actually something going on about it. What happens when it’s just automated, because of what you do? What happens if it’s, because you’ve ordered Julius Evola’s book from Imperial Press? Imperial Press will itself be down there. That will itself ring off alarm bells.

 

So all of a sudden the picture that’s going to be built up of you, will in that case would be a negative one. So that’s kind of like, why I’ve become so pessimistic about all of this stuff. And I’m not sure of a way out of it.

 

I mean, if you’re aware of the Michel Foucault thing, and the Panopticon of the prison. I think it was Jeremy Bentham before him as well. Where you have a prison, because people will use that word Panopticon quite a lot with the internet. They’ve done it for a long time.

 

And the thing is, it has subtle effects on the human mind. Because people are going to be aware that everything, they are doing is going to amount to data which is being logged. And it’s going to become algorithms. And this will actually affect human behavior.

 

In my opinion this will have a profound effect on how humans just actually exist. I mean, they use that language themselves. It’ll affect everything about your existence! Because you can say in the case of your fridge and whatnot, you’re going to be aware that what you’re putting in there is tracked. That it isn’t just the personal. It isn’t just a private thing anymore. And and so this will then have an effect and you’re gonna begin to comply in certain ways. Your mind will, in your habits of how you live, will be trained and it will push you into a certain mode.

 

Now what, let’s say the elites, the people behind this, what they’ll reply to that:

 

“There isn’t a brain behind it. That it is benign, and it is just sort of dead data.”

 

[50:41]

 

But the problem is we know that they have an ethical code. We know that they support say “Social Justice”. We know that there’s like a political slant to this. And we know that they think some people behave in ways which is better than others.

 

Now it will not just be political, of course, it will be also to do with your health.

 

But what this means is that it’s going to create a society where even if they don’t bring in like an outright social score – which I think they will – but as they said when it came to the employers, you may never know about it. I mean, if the employer is going to cross you off his list, because he’s seen your data, or a sort of condensed representation of your data, then like they admitted themselves in this article you’d never know about it anyway. So it may well be that this is also going to be in your normal day-to-day life.

 

And there’s going to be a certain model that they’re going to push that people are going to adapt to, because they know they’re being watched. So maybe you won’t reach for the third beer, you won’t buy that Julius Evola book, you won’t rock the boat, you will conform! Even if it isn’t explicit, even if the punishment isn’t sort of directly dangling over you, you will conform to a certain mode, and that’s exactly how a Panopticon works. And that’s what this is.

 

So whether, or not, they will just go full bore, I mean, you’ve already got people having their bank accounts closed down, and you begin to see that in the old days something like a bank would be like non-political. You may well have like a special rules about somebody supporting terrorism, or some crazy thing. Your country’s at war and that the government will lay down the law to the bank that you can’t have people using this bank to fund arms runs for people who the state is fighting against. And all of this kind of thing.

 

But when we look at how this whole network is constructed everything becomes politicized in a certain way. They’ve all got incentives to help each other out. So all of a sudden something like a bank on the High Street which didn’t care about your politics, all of a sudden that becomes politicized. It becomes involved! It becomes one of those nodes on the network.

 

And where does this come from? I mean, in the case of the World Economic Forum it is like the elites.

 

So this is the reason why I want to do is, because it needs to be pushed back against. But and what they’re going to do is say:

 

“Well, you just want, …”

 

It automatically puts you into this reactionary mode. It automatically puts you where you’re kind of waving your hands and just trying to tell the modern world to stop! Which is a bad, bad, situation to be in!

 

So if you go back to my conversation with the Woodlander, it is kind of like:

 

“Well how can we kind of have a different vision from this?”

 

So when the backlash comes, and it is! In all fairness it is. You’ve got hundreds of thousands of people on the streets of London just last weekend. But like the media just won’t report it properly. Again, because it’s just another node in the network.

 

So, when the people are pushing back against this they need to have a positive narrative. We understand all of this, and we’re not saying throw all this technology out. But let’s at least, why can’t we just get it to work for us in certain ways? There’s a conversation to be had there.

 

But yeah, that’s what I think of the Internet of Bodies. And even the word. Even the word of it, is like where the human body just becomes an object. It just becomes this sort of “meat sack” of data which is like numbers on a computer screen.

 

And the thought processes, you know. I find that they’re just the complete lack of poetry, and spiritualism, and metaphysics, in the world. Like we’ve seen that dwindle away over decades, and decades, and even centuries. And it reaches now to this point where the human form, the human being is just an object! It’s just a mass of numbers and data. Which will be controlled by more numbers and more data in the technology, in the technique.

 

Because in the end that’s what this comes down to its Western man who created all of these wonders. And all of these technological marvels, falling into his own machine.

 

Like as we look into the future you begin to understand what Martin Heidegger said, which I’ve mentioned before, where he said:

 

“Only a god can save us now.”

 

And you begin to get it. You finally begin to get what the bargain was. The downside of the bargain!

 

So let the pushback begin.

 

Thanks for listening folks. I know it’s been a bit of a gloomy one, but I feel like I’ve got to have a few words on this.

 

So I’ll see you next time. Take care now.

 

 

[56:39]

 

 

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Morgoth: Today the first of our guests on the MorgCast. And it’s the Woodlander. So how are you doing sir?

 

Woodlander: Very well. How are you?

 

Morgoth: I’m fine. It’s funny, because I saw you pop up under one of my Odysee videos. And I clicked on your profile and saw that you had a channel and I thought:

 

“Well I love this. Sort of outdoors, getting away from modern life, and all of this. I thought that this is right up my alley.”

 

So I thought it would be good to have a chat about them [coughing]. Oh you can tell this is for the MorgCast, because I’m not going to cut it, or anything. We’ll just we’ll just run with it warts and all! [chuckling] So I thought it would be good to have a chat, because I was watching your video. We were just saying before we went live. But I was surprised that just how much you’ve got.

 

So tell us the story. What’s happened? You’ve gone off grid. And what I think’s interesting about it is that it does tie in about the overbearing technology which is a hot topic at the moment. And so it’s like it’s going off grid or distancing yourself from it. It’s become like a really relevant thing.

 

Woodlander: And becoming more, and more, popular every day. For me I kind of went off grid slightly differently to begin with. So I shut down all my bank accounts, started to use only cash. And looked at a way that I could withdraw from the whole system. It was absolutely driving me insane! The more I looked into it the more I despised it. And the only way I could see, was to literally do everything myself, and use it as little as possible.

 

So I sat down with the wife and we talked about what we wanted. And we wanted our own place in a nice bit of land. We wanted to keep animals. And when you look at the prices of property around. I was looking at places. And they were like a million, a million and a half quid! It was completely outside of what I was capable of doing.

 

So I thought the only way I can do this is to do it myself. So I looked at ways if it was possible, and there’s obstructions every single way where you look. But it is possible. You can do it! And it is legal. There’s a, … You’ll have to excuse the dogs in the background I’m afraid.

 

So I bought some land. I brought two and a half acres. We turned about half an acre over to poultry. So we got Turkeys, ducks, chickens. We’re probably going to have a couple of goats up there. Half an acre for the cabin, and sort of garden area. And we kept an acre as wild woodland. And it’s worked out really well!

 

Morgoth: I just, I didn’t even know that. You could just go to the Woods and buy the land. I mean, it must have cost a fortune! I don’t want you to get into anything like detailed personal stuff that you’re not comfortable with, or anything. But I’ll just imagine buying like a big couple of acres of land in the woodland must have been a fortune, isn’t it? And planning permission? And all of that.

 

Woodlander: It’s going up well. I didn’t get planning permission. When I first looked into it I was looking at sort of fields and agricultural land. And you can pick them up relatively cheap. You’re looking at about ten thousand pound an acre. And slightly cheaper in different places. But you won’t get planning to build a house. So the more I looked into it. I thought:

 

“Well has it been done and how can you do it?”

 

And there’s an old English law called the “four-year rule”, which it’s fairly simple. And it states that if you build a home, and you live in it for four years, and no one’s asked you to take it down. And when I say “no one”, I do mean the council. So no one’s complained about it, after four years that then becomes legal. Yeah that then becomes a residential property.

 

So I was looking for land where nobody could see into it. And woodland was ideal! Because I could stand in the middle of this plot that I bought, and I couldn’t see my boundary in any direction, because of the trees and, because of the natural foliage. So I figured if I can’t see out, then no one can see in. And if no one can see in, it makes no difference what I do it.

 

And that’s exactly what I did. But I quite like that English rule, because it’s based on common sense. Which is, if you’ve done something and no one’s got a problem with it, then that’s fine, you can keep it.

 

[05:32]

 

Morgoth: And do you get any hassle off for forestry commission, or anything like that?

 

Woodlander: Remarkably no! I mean, about halfway through the build, which was over five years ago now, I was halfway up a ladder nailing the cladding to the outside of the cabin, and two gentlemen in suits walked up through the Woods with a clipboard. And I thought:

 

“Here we go! This is going to be interesting.”

 

And as it transpired they were from the forestry commission. And they were doing a survey of all the woodland in the local area, looking for ash dieback. And we got chatting. And they had a look around my plot. And I said:

 

“Look, have you got a problem with what I’m doing here?”

 

And they said:

 

“No, not at all. From our perspective we would much rather that people owned the woodland and were looking after it, and maintaining it, then it was left to run completely wild and overgrown. So we haven’t got a problem with it.”

 

So yeah, it was good.

 

Morgoth: Yeah. I mean, another one of what I picked up in one of your videos was this idea yeah. Because I’ve got a mate of mine and we’ve sat in the pub – when it used to be allowed – and we’ve talked about this kind of thing. And it’s like, he was going as if like he had to be completely independent, straight away.

 

And I was watching one of your videos and you were saying like it’s really isn’t where like this you can “purity spiral”. If you nip back to Morrisons to pick up a bottle of wine it’s not the end of the world, or maybe you are in some way connected to the system. But it’s more about having peace of mind. You know what I mean? I thought that was an interesting point that you made.

 

Woodlander: I mean, I’m about as off-grid as you can get, both personally, and my lifestyle. And I started last year growing food, which was brilliant. And I think the video you want about I actually said it. I started to grow sweet corn.

 

Morgoth: Yeah, yeah.

 

Woodlander: And then the dogs went out there and just ate all the sweet corn. But that’s not the end of the world for me, because I could literally get in the car, drive down to Morrison’s and buy some sweet corn. I can’t see any reason to live like a caveman! I don’t need to do that.

 

Morgoth: Yeah.

 

Woodlander: What I have done, withdraw as much as I want to. And I can still take from that system what I want to take. But I can also leave behind the bits I want to leave behind. And I think there’s a balance there for each and every one of us. Some people might want to dip in more, and others might want to withdraw more. But I can’t see any reason why you can’t use both.

 

Morgoth: Yeah, well I can imagine like some dick like saying:

 

“Oh well so you went and got sweet corn from Morrisons? Like so much for that!”

 

And that’s not the point. The point is to try and get, it’s like a process of removing yourself from the system to give you some kind of peace of mind. So that it isn’t in your face all of the time. And yeah you may be in some ways connected to it. But yeah, it’s that you’ve got agency, you’re in charge, rather than being dictated to by the system.

 

Woodlander: Exactly that. And I think the way I put it into one of the videos was, I said it’s a very honest, it’s a very honest way of living out here. I mean, I’ve got central heating, but I’ve also got a massive log burner. So if I want heat I need to chop down a tree. And then I need to split the wood. And then I have to wait a year before I can burn that wood. So I have to season it. And then I can light that and I get heat. And that to me, I understand that. And I mean, I know most people were just quite used to going home pressing a button and the heating comes on. And they say:

 

“But you’ve got to do all this work in order to get heat.”

 

And my argument would be:

 

“Well you’ve got to go out and work eight hours a day to get that heat!”

 

Morgoth: Yeah. So that you can like sit in front of the television watching the hours tick down until you go to bed to get up the next day to go to work again.

 

Woodlander: Yeah. Just so you can turn your heating on, and have two weeks in Marbaya [sp] as a cope!

 

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Morgoth: Yeah. That’s like the carrot that’s dangled in front of you. It really is like that. So what do you do for water then? Is that just rain water?

 

Woodlander: Yeah. We looked at doing a borehole. And I had a survey done. And it is a possibility, because there’s actually a few other people doing the same thing as me in this area. So we might do that. But in the meantime I can collect probably a thousand liters in a good downpour. So I’ve got three thousand liters stored off of the roof, which runs through a pumping system, and through a filter system with five stages, and that’s filtered and pumped straight into the house. Wasn’t that difficult to do. I mean, I watched a couple of YouTube videos, figured it out myself. A couple of IBC containers, linked them up. And yeah, so my water’s free.

 

 

My electricity, now I’ve paid for the solar, is free. And people say when, you know, they have preconceived ideas when you say you live in a cabin in the Woods, it could be fairly basic. And that wouldn’t bother me. I mean, when I first moved in here I didn’t have running water, and I didn’t have electricity. So it was difficult. But actually quite enjoyable for a while.

 

It changed rapidly, because I’ve got a wife and they want things like hair dryers, and a washing machine, and heat, and running water. So I had to sort all that stuff out. So I’ve now got pretty much everything that you would have in your house. But I don’t pay for it. So I’ve heating, I have water.

 

And by reducing my outgoings, it means I have to interact with that system a lot less! Which was the whole idea in the first place.

 

Morgoth: So the first major step is obviously getting the land, getting the plot.

 

Woodlander: Yeah.

 

Morgoth: Because in theory you wouldn’t have to be in the woods. You could just be in somewhere that was quite quiet. And even if there was a road not far away, you’re still kind of independent, you know.

 

Woodlander: Completely! I mean, I spent a year me and a wife just driving all around the country, into Wales, we were right down at the bottom in Devon, just looking for the Right piece of land. And I mean, that was an enjoyable year just driving around the country. We saw some amazing places.

 

But as it happened the plot came up literally sort of five, ten, miles away from where we lived. And so it was perfect! It was a perfect location. And I had to a bit saving to do to buy it. But once we bought the land that was it. I just cracked on.

 

Morgoth: And have you got a television, or anything like that? Or just your phone?

 

Woodlander: I didn’t have a television for about three years up here. But there is a small one in there now, so the Mrs can, … But she said:

 

“I want TV just so I can watch a film every now and then.”

 

But I think we’ve actually turned it on about three, or four times in the last 12 months.

 

Morgoth: Yes. [chuckling] It’s really not worth the hassle! I mean, just before we got into this call I was out walking the dog and I had to rush back, because we agreed about the time. And I came across a little stream and it had like a, you know, those propaganda posters for social distancing and Covid, and everything. And there was one that I took a photo of it. I think I’ll stick it on Telegram later. And there was one which had just been dumped into the stream. Now, I don’t like the littering aspect of that, because it ruins the look.

 

But there’s a kind of deeper symbolism there. Where on the one hand you’ve got like the most extreme social controls and it’s linked to technology. And then you can see it kind of just dumped into a scenic forest stream. And I looked at it. And I was thinking this is like the perfect symbolism for the conversation that I’m about to have with you when I get back home [chuckling]! There’s a little sign of things to come!

 

Woodlander: I tell you what’s been an eye opener. Is I’ve been up here for years and it’s fairly secluded. And it’s in a beautiful part of the country. And not until the lockdown, did I see anyone walking around. But since those lockdowns there’s been families, there’s been groups of teenagers. And they’ve all been fairly respectful of the countryside.

 

[15:26]

 

But they’re actually out and about. And there’s been no social distancing. Whole families are getting together walking around. There’s groups of kids. And they’re quite happy to get out in the countryside. And I would say that’s probably the only upshot of this shit show we’ve been through in the last 12 months! It’s been nice to see people have actually been out just enjoying this area.

 

Morgoth: Yeah.

 

Woodlander: The minute it all opens up again they’ll disappear. They’ll be back to Netflix and MacDonald’s and Nando’s at the weekend. And all of this will be forgotten for them.

 

Morgoth: Yeah.

 

Woodlander: That’s a shame.

 

Morgoth: Yeah. I noticed that as well, when it first kicked off. Like for the first few weeks or so, go back a year, or so, like really everybody did stay indoors and you saw like there was drones and there was police out telling people to go home. And after a while, after about a month, or something, because I never took any notice of it at all. I was just wandering around like normal.

 

But what I did notice on all the walks is – I’m in Northumberland – and the walks that I like to go on with the dog and whatnot. And all of a sudden I was just people absolutely everywhere! And it dawned on me that what they’re doing is they think they’ll be safe. So what they’re doing is going on paths through woodlands and stuff like that, because they assume that the police will not be there check them. And to be honest they were right though, they weren’t. But it did like ruin my walks.

 

But yeah, it was interesting that they actually knew these places exist, because normally nobody goes on these places at all. I mean, the ones that have been officially designated like woodland parks and stuff, it’s like going to a theme park sometimes. And this is something that like interests me is that if I go walking in the fields you’ll often find that the farmers got like a little bit of land, I think they have to leave a few meters at the side, for nesting ground birds and stuff like that.

 

And like it says something about the way people look at the countryside, at nature, because they feel as if they’ve got to go to an officially designated beauty spot, which means that everybody piles in there. And, in actual fact, if you’re like going along on a road and you look out to either side of you in England you’ll see there’s like thousands and thousands of square miles of farmland. And you will get a farmer who’s a bit of a pain in the ass. But by and large, they’re not there.

 

And you can, I mean, you’ll find like whole woodlands in the middle of these fields where nobody goes and there’s deer running around and everything. And it’s just funny the way people, … It’s as if they’ve got to have permission to go to a certain place in the countryside.

 

Woodlander: That’s literally what I had to get away from! I had to get away from that whole system where I was told where to go. I was told what to watch! I was told where I could spend my money. I was told what to spend it on. And it was driving me mad! It was literally driving me mad! Because I could see it for what it was. I could see it for the sham it was.

 

And after years of trying different political routes to see if this could be changed I just came to the conclusion that the only way for me to be able to survive was to get out of it. And do it myself. And just to live a life where I didn’t have to interact with it. Where I could actually withdraw and say, you know what I’ve got this is mine. I can live my life without being told what to do! Told what to watch! Told what to think.

 

And like I said, when things open up again, all of these people that have been out enjoying this will gladly turn their back on it and go and watch Eastenders, and Netflix, and buy their tea from MacDonald’s. And I find it’s incredible!

 

 

Morgoth: I mean, some of the people that will probably listen to this podcast, the more reactionary types, they’ve been saying this for a long time that if you try and take the system on, sort of head-on, you form a political party, you run in elections, and worse still you go out and you protest on the streets.

 

The system actually just crushes you and destroys your life. But you even then like make the system stronger by taking it on. And like you see more, and more, people thinking:

 

“Well okay, this is fair enough I’m just going to drop out.”

 

And they call it the “clear pill”.:

 

“Do what you do, I’m just gonna do everything that I can to disconnect from this system.”

 

And as we were just saying before, as well it may not be 100%. It may be that you still rely on the system to one degree, or another. But it’s about regaining some form of independence. And, at the end of the day, like freedom.

 

[20:56]

 

Woodlander: Exactly that! Freedom. And for me it was honesty knowing that I hated the whole thing that much, and still being a part of it, and relying on it, was just cognitive dissonance didn’t even cover it! It was just it felt wrong! So now I could be here and with a little more effort, I could literally not go into town for months at a time. I don’t have to. I could grow food. I have got eggs. I have got meat. I could be 100% self-sufficient here.

 

Now as it is I’ve chosen not to go that route, and I still dip into the system for the things I want. But I would take no guidance from them on what I should do. I do what I want to do, when I want to do it. And it had to go that way in the end.

 

Morgoth: Are you in contact with like other men who’ve gone off grid, other families who have gone off grid, where you can have this like sort of barter system with them. So let’s just say like I’m gonna simplify it like a lot. But let’s just say you’ve got access to a lot of wood, for firewood. And then there’s somebody else that, you know, and he’s got pigs, or something. Is that a thing that goes on, or do you see that happening in the future?

 

Woodlander: Right now. I mean, when I bought my plot here, a chap, … I think there’s ten plots in this woodland. And there’s another woodland opposite, a bridal way, which is even larger.

 

When I bought mine, this chap sort of came ambled down the lane and had a chat. And said he owned a plot right at the top. And asked me what I was planning on doing with it. So I sort of hedged my bets and said:

 

“Well, I’m going to keep birds there. Chickens and fowl. And I’ll probably put a little cabin in.”

 

So I thought I’d sound him out. And he said:

 

“Oh that’s great! Nice to meet you.”

 

And I asked, I said:

 

“Why did you buy your plot!”

 

And he said:

 

“Well, I always wanted to build a treehouse.”

 

And my instant thought was:

 

“The bloke’s got kids, and he’s built his kids a tree house.”

 

Anyway, about a week later I went up to his plot. And I thought I’ll go and see if he’s there. And was greeted, as I entered his plot of woodland, with a two-story tree house which he lived in! Which was a lot! I was literally stood below this giant sycamore with this two story house in the middle of it.

 

And he invited me up, and I was sat in an armchair in a tree house, [Morgoth starts laughing] in front of a log burner, right, drinking coffee. And my phone went, it was my wife. And she said:

 

“Where are you? I thought you’re going to meet me at our woods.”

 

And I was stuck for like, how to tell her where I was! Sat in a tree house, drinking coffee in front of a log fire. It was just mind-blowing! And I think it’s like every boy’s dream that! But so there was two of us doing the same thing in these woods. And now there’s five.

 

There’s a chap across the way, who I’ll call my neighbour, who, it’s an ex-police officer. And during the last lockdown we built his cabin in three weeks. I can tell you how much it cost, because people are interested. So for five thousand pounds we built a two-bedroom cabin. And he then moved in with his family. Which is amazing! Do, you know what I mean?

 

Morgoth: Yeah, that is amazing!

 

 

 

Woodlander: And he loves it! He’s absolutely loves it!

 

And there’s another chap who’s built a little round house. And I mean, and anyone who needs something, if I’ve got it, they can borrow off me. And if they need firewood, and maybe down the road, got a bit of extra.

 

So yeah. I mean, although it’s not a community. I mean, I could be here for weeks on end and not see anyone, I do only have to walk two minutes and knock on a door and there’s someone there.

 

[25:46]

 

Morgoth: Are they like normal normal blokes that you can like have a pint of homemade cider with? Or it’s like a tendency to be like libtard, hippie types?

 

Woodlander: No. They’re absolutely! , … The reason I talk about the four of us are doing this, is literally because we’re just normal guys! I mean, the chap who built the cabin, he’s an ex-police officer. The one who built the round house he’s a labourer and the chap who’s lives in the tree house, he used to run pop-up nightclubs, in like Ibiza [sp] and stuff like that. But he’s like quite artistic, but just a normal guy. I mean, now he just works around the local villages doing painting and decorating. Just normal people who have found a way that’s just, it’s just a much easier way of living, I find!

 

Morgoth: Yeah. I can imagine it, as well. And I just mentioned that, because you get the impression of people like escaping into nature. And your average liberal, libtard, like they talk a great game. But when it comes down to sort of like wading through the mud every morning, like sprinkling seed down for some chickens. And then there’s sleet and all of this. Like, at the end of the day, they’re just full shite! They’re going to be sitting in their suburban apartments watching the same old crap and virtue signaling on Twitter.

 

So it’s like what I’m getting at, is that this is something which more like normal, Right-wing, traditional minded, people are going to be interested in doing. And you see this split between like the suburban types and the rural types. I mean, you know. They’re going to be a lot of people who would like to do it, but are stuck in it. But I think that’s why it’s nice to have these conversations. But you can see like a clear split in the mentality of a people here.

 

Woodlander: Yeah, without a doubt. And the remarkable thing is anyone I’ve brought up here and shown this place has been like sort of blown away by it! And everyone says the same thing. When you talk to them they:

 

“That’s something I’d love to do!”

 

And you see these little memes crop up on Facebook and everywhere else, like a little picture of a cabin in the Woods, and:

 

“Would you live here free of charge if all you had to do was give up telly?”

 

And stuff like that. All the comments below are:

 

“Yes I would!”

 

But, you know what? 90 percent of people wouldn’t. They’d creep back to Netflix and MacDonald’s. Because that’s actually what they want. They want the comfort. They want that. And that’s what I was trying to get away from.

 

Morgoth: Yeah. It comes with a price as well, doesn’t it? It comes with conformity.

 

Woodlander: Yeah. But I mean, if anything I think these lockdowns have shown that, I’m going to be generous and say only 80%. But 80% of the population here would give up everything for comfort and security.

 

Morgoth: Yeah.

 

Woodlander: I wouldn’t give up anything for that. I mean, I’d rather be free and uncomfortable.

 

Morgoth: I mean, the funny thing about that, I see that number that the 80 percent being bandied around quite a bit, because like I was going to say, that it’s a nice way to segue into like the changes that we see going on in the world. Because I was watching something about it.

 

And it was like a Ted Talks thing, it was a conference where somebody given a speech about how great the internet of things was going to be. And that number of 80 percent of people, 80 percent keeps coming up again, and again. But in that in his context it was that 80 percent of the jobs are gonna go, or be radically altered. 80% reductions in people being employed. And so he was selling it as a good thing as well. And he was saying things like:

 

“When he comes towards his door, it’s like his door is going to recognize it’s him. And so it’ll unlock itself.”

 

And then he can like say something into his phone and if he said say “dim”, then his lights would be just right for him coming in. And this is all like the positive things, this is how they’re spinning it. And there’s a lot of other ones. The problem is that requires you to be on, well there’s a lot there. But it does require you to be on this digital database.

 

And so there’s obviously the downside of that. And what they’re trying to do is just put all these positives on it, but the positives seem to me a bit crap. I don’t need my door to read my face. I’ve got a key! The key it’s good! I’m fine having a key! I’m fine just switching a light on.

 

[31:15]

 

Woodlander: Exactly. I mean, that’s where they’re heading without a shadow of a doubt. But I would say that I think this has been held back for years, and years, and years! I mean, one of the first videos I did I spoke about Volkswagen, who in the 1970s actually used as part of their advertising campaign, that their cars were built by robots driven by humans. The factory that built the Volkswagen Golf in the 1970s had something like a hundred people in it. And it was churning out Golfs faster than any other factory.

 

And yet 30 years later Nissan open a plant in Swindon and employ 3,000 people. And you think:

 

“Well, if the technology was there for the 70s and we’ve improved it since then, why are they employing so many people?”

 

And I’m fairly sure it was just, because they had no idea what they were going to do with all those people that didn’t work. So the technology has been held back. But I think it’s now at a point where they’re just gonna, … I’m not sure how the universal basic income is gonna work, because what you’re gonna end up with is everything owned by 10 huge corporations, no one working, and those 10 corporations funding the universal basic income that people will then give back to them in return for products.

 

Morgoth: Yeah.

 

Woodlander: Which can only go on for a certain amount of time. Because in the end those corporations are going to realize that this is a pointless exercise. The money’s just doing a circle. And the only fly in the ointment is the people.

 

Morgoth: Yeah. And this fella, that’s what I was going to lead on with. This fellow that I was watching given this thing about how great it was all going to be. He kind of touched on this and he said:

 

“So what are we going to do? What is like 80 percent of the population going to do?”

 

And it was a rhetorical question. Then he answered himself. And he said:

 

“We’re going to be innovators and poets. And we’re going to learn foreign languages. And we’re going to learn how to like paint things.”

 

And I thought, you know, like where I live in the north east, which is like old pit towns. And there’s a lot of like sort of rough and ready working-class lads around. And I thought this is total bullshit! These people are not going to become painters! The average lad who’s been working in a factory in Ashington, or whatever, it’s just my experience, but this is across the country.

 

Like, what you think he’s going to become a poet? You think that’s what they’re going to do with their time? It’s complete fantasy land! And I think myself, this doesn’t make sense. And then you think:

 

“Well oh yeah. And they’re also telling us all to get this vaccine!”

 

And they wondered why everybody’s so bloody paranoid, because all you’ve got like, it’s not this extreme kind of crazy conspiracy theory. It’s just like on the one hand they’re gonna like, eighty percent of people are not going to have much to do, on the other hand, the same people are telling you to have this vaccine. And I’m not saying that the worst doomed scenario is gonna happen, or anything. But I can see why there’s a hell of a lot of people getting concerned here.

 

 

Woodlander: And I would say it goes one step further. If you’re looking at where the attacks are going they’re going towards, let’s be honest, it’s White Europeans. And that’s the people they’re trying to make sure don’t have kids. They’re the ones they’re clamping down on. Whilst at the same time bringing populations who are much more malleable! Who are much easier to actually control in the long run. They’re not as intelligent, they don’t think outside the box. So the replacement theory makes complete sense!

 

When you look at the long term, the only people they are going to need they’re going to need to be able to control them very easily. And it’s much easier to control a population that’s not too intelligent, and is used to having very bloody little! And much more difficult to control the population who’s intelligent, and is used to having quite a lot.

 

[36:03]

 

Morgoth: Yeah. And more than just material needs, because their big selling point is just meeting the basic material needs of the people. Which is why you see these like these “skintellectual” grifters like Ash Sakar. I think I’m going to do a video on this.

 

But they’re in this like Luxury Automated Communism [Fully Automated Luxury Communism] was a book her boss, Aaron Bastani, wrote. And when you look at it like it’s just the “Great Reset”! Like that’s actually just what it is. [chuckling] But they too think:

 

“Oh! Well, we’re all going to be artists. We’re all going to do yoga, and like learn to speak Japanese!”

 

And all this kind of thing! And the UBI and megacorp are gonna are gonna like pay for it! It’s the end of history. We finally got there! And I thought this is like you utopian deluded bullshit! But at the same time it’s easy to get kind of really worried and depressed about that. And I certainly done me fair share recently.

 

But when I was looking at, … They’ve got these 3D printed houses. And I mean, this that sounds insane. And I thought it kind of ties in with the going off grid. Like what you were saying in one of your videos is that instead of being terrified of what’s coming in here, we can actually use this technology to, in some degree, escape the system.

 

Woodlander: Yeah. I think it’s the only way. I mean, if you actually look at the cabin I’ve got, and this ties in. People do think:

 

“Well you live in a cabin in the woods. It must look a bit like a shed, like with a rocking chair and a rug in front of an open fire.”

 

Because that’s like the idea. But I mean, like I said, I’ve got a wife and they want things like running water, and central heating, and a shower, and a bath. And so I’ve got. All of these things. And I’ve got a cooker, and a fridge, and a washing machine. There’s no reason we can’t use the technology that’s currently available, and will be coming available, for our own benefit.

 

Morgoth: Yeah.

 

Woodlander: The problem we’ve got is that the people in charge are using it for their benefit! And we know who the people in charge are. They’re the same people that have been in charge for the last hundred years.

 

Morgoth: Yeah. And what I think is really interesting about it is that you can’t actually have a sort of an idealistic vision. So the 3D printed house on the one hand you look at that. And for people who think that’s insane I’ll just explain what that is. And it looks like a big crane and what they’ve done is, they’ve probably got about 20 designs for different houses. And so it’s automated house building. And what it is a big crane and then something like liquid concrete comes out. And it looks like it’s toothpaste. I’ll put a picture of it on. And it looks like a toothpaste coming out of a tube. And then, of course, like how many times the shape that it has to go around, has all been so put in there. And then it just goes up, and up, and up. And then maybe you get a couple of boys in there to put the roof on do the electrics and plumbing and stuff like that.

 

But basically the house, the structure of the house, has been built by just one machine and it’s got like a weird ripple look on it when you see them. They’ve got them in Germany already. Now on the one hand you think:

 

“Well okay, that’s the end of the construction industry. Because, if you can get a machine to do that.”

 

On the other hand, it means that it must be pretty cheap to build that. Because you need one machine, you can select from a few designs. And then you’re going to pay for a couple of tons of whatever that liquid concrete stuff is. So, on the other hand, you think.:

 

“Well yeah, it can actually be a positive thing.”

 

Maybe it costs like what 15 to 20 grand to build, or something?

 

Woodlander: Yeah. Well this was actually discussed and really the Great Reset was put in place way before Klaus Schwab. A chap called Jacquis. It was something called the Venus Project in the 70s. Where he was actually talking about a resource-based economy. And he was an engineer. And he was on about machines would be self-building homes, and people wouldn’t have to work, exactly the same thing.

 

But what he never got around to was it a moneyless society. And it all sounds good until you actually go. Well, what are you going to do with the people? And no one’s really answering that. Because we’re the fly in this ointment! The people are the things that are in the end. Because it’s not being controlled by us, it’s not being controlled by the people, it’s been controlled by an elite who are only out to make themselves more comfortable, why do they need us?

 

[41:24]

 

Morgoth: Yeah. That’s the problem. And like you were touching on before, if let’s say we use this. And we can build, you can buy plots of land. And you can do everything’s automated. You’ve got your UBI, or whatever it happens to be. And you get your 3D printed house. In theory everybody would be sort of living, … Like the positive which could come out of that would be where everybody would be living off grid to a certain degree.

 

Where you run into problems is the mass consumer society which they created. So what do you do with all of these millions and millions of people? Whereas if you just had a small homogenous country, you can see where it will be like a vision of heaven actually!

 

Woodlander: We could do this, right! We could do this in the UK for the good of the people. Especially somewhere like Britain which is small, it’s an island nation. And you could actually have something that everybody else would look at and think:

 

“Wow! That’s actually quite incredible! Everybody’s homed, everybody’s got enough food.”

 

I mean, I touched on this in the last video. Which is in the 1980s we were 80% self-sufficient in food. And over the last 30, 40 years, that has dropped every single year. To now it’s below 50%! Which makes absolutely no sense! Yeah, that’s the free market I suppose, it’s yeah, it’s just bizarre!

 

Morgoth: Well even like the sustainability thing would be like there’s nothing wrong with you taking care of yourself. So then in the case of it would be where you could have chickens, or you could keep pigs. And so you all grow your own vegetables. Like that should be an incentive.

 

But you’re still going to, like be looking towards reducing the population. And you’ve still got all of these tens of millions of people that they’ve brought in. So you’re going to have to say:

 

“Well the era that brought mass immigration, and mass consumption, mass consumerism, that is now coming to an end. And we’re gonna, …”

 

I remember about 10 years ago I traveled around Norway and it was surprising to me. Because like I said, I come from a council estate where everybody’s like crammed in with each other. And when I was going around Norway, I saw it’s really like empty! You just like you see a house here. And then a few hundred yards across the hill, you see another house. And it’s everybody’s really got a lot of space, compared to where we’re shoved in like sardines.

 

So you can have these positive visions of how things could be using this kind of technology but you there would be kind of post-consumerist. And when you look at what the elites have actually got planned, and this is still using the technology, they’re going in the complete other directions it’s where you will be like a battery hen.

 

Woodlander: Exactly that! And the two polar opposites using the same technology.

 

Morgoth: Using the same technology. One could be this liberating where we enter into a new phase and essentially break apart this kind of mass consumer society. And the entire, let’s say, a World War II paradigm.

 

Woodlander: Yeah.

 

 

Morgoth: It will be sort of an aspect of it where, … For example, one of the things they’ll say, … Let’s say you take the issue of the 3D printed steaks and eating like the bugs, and all of this. They say that this is the price that you have to pay for a sustainable modernity. And I think like I’d be fine if I had a plot of land and I was left alone, I didn’t have all of these technocrats telling me what to do, what to think!

 

I’d be fine if I only got to eat steak once a month. I never had a steak, I grew up in the 80s, I never had a steak until I was about 13 years old. It used to be, not that long ago it, used to be this really luxury item.

 

Woodlander: Yeah, it was a luxury item! Prawn cocktail for starters, steak for your main meal, [words unclear] at the Bernie end. Once a year.

 

Morgoth: Yeah [chuckling]! Chicken used to be cheap! Chicken wasn’t such, … I forgot, my dad was going on about this recently. But there was one of the meats where I think it might have been pork, or something, well that was quite cheap, but steak wasn’t.

 

But the point is, okay, fair enough. Maybe we could do with a bit of that. Maybe we do have to eat more carrots. And like mackerel, or something like this, which is actually on hand. And you kind of barter it with the locals.

 

Maybe materially you would be slightly better off. But spiritually like you’d be in a hell of a better place, than sitting with watching your giant screen on a wall, like eating the larva burgers with fully automated corn, or whatever the hell they’re coming up without now [chuckling]!

 

[46:58]

 

Woodlander: Tofu hell!

 

Morgoth: Yeah, it’s easy to get black piled about all this. But we just need to think. And you think well this technology is coming, whether you like it, or not. So you have to do something with that. I mean, I’ve been accused of this where:

 

“Oh, you just want to escape the modern world. And you have to you just want to live like in the shire, and where it’s like the 1930s and there’s horse’s and carriages.”

 

Yeah, I get accused of that all of the time. And there is some truth to it [chuckling]! But you see with the technology coming in, and it’s kind of possible, but in a kind of post consumerist society. Otherwise, if you don’t have a vision you will just be trapped! You will just be trapped in the vision of the oligarchs.

 

They’ve got a certain vision that they’re forcing on us and using this technology. And so we have to have, where you can’t just escape into fantasyland. You’ve got to think:

 

“Well, yeah the 3D printed house is there.”

 

And you can moan, you can see say like no we have to keep these construction workers in, even though there’s a more efficient and cheaper way to do it, or you can say:

 

“Okay, well now that this technology, I should be able to get a house from what 15, or 20 grand, or something?”

 

Woodlander: I think in the past it’s definitely been held back. And I know that just from looking into it. Technology has been available which they haven’t used. And I think in the early stages that was probably, because they had no idea what to do with the unemployed, and the government just couldn’t afford to pay for them.

 

But now I think people are going to start to become massively unemployed in the next five years. And I mean, it’s going to be huge! And universal basic income is going to have to come in. And they’re going to have to control the population. And that’s what all of this has been about. That’s what all of this lockdown has been about. How easy is it going to be to control the population?

 

Morgoth: Pretty easy by the looks of it.

 

Woodlander: Yeah! Like I said I’m fairly sure that most people will be happy. They will. And that’s kind of my only black pill. Which is I thought there’d be more resistance. I thought people would say:

 

“I’m not willing to give up everything for comfort and security.”

 

But they are! And as much as you may try and red pill people, actually I’m at the point now where I’m thinking:

 

“Do, you know what? Why am I trying to change someone’s mind when they’re happy with what they’re going to get?”

 

They’re going to be happy to live in the pod! They’ll be absolutely, … As long as they’ve got Netflix, and food, and a roof over their head, that’s all they want. And that’s insane!

 

[50:00]

 

Morgoth: Yeah. I mean, I saw that people are complaining that there’s, I think over the last year, like 700 foreign workers. I’ve got a feeling they’ll mainly be Europeans. They have left London over the last year and people are saying:

 

“Oh, this is gonna be like a crisis! We need to get the economy to get back on track.”

 

But at the same time I’m thinking about, what’s the point? Because at the same time the elites are saying there’s too many people, and it’s going to be UBI, everything’s going to be automated. And then, like foreigners start to leave the country.

 

And, by the way, I think they’re leaving the country, because it’s shit to be in London in a lockdown a lot of these people, let’s say you’re from Poland. You can go back and live in a small town in Poland where you can walk around without having a mask on. Nobody’s, let’s be honest, nobody’s really going to give shit about lockdowns over there. Some rural village in Poland, nobody cares. So they’ve decided that well, it’s kind of like what we’re saying, it’s actually better to take their hits materially and go back to somewhere which isn’t this technocratic health scare.

 

Woodlander: Yeah, no, I completely agree! And there are people doing that. But it’s not the majority. And that’s the thing that has surprised me. As much as I thought a lot of people would go along with it, it does seem like it’s nearly everyone! And I’ve been surprised.

 

Morgoth: Like there has been a bit of a pushback against the vaccine passports. But they’re going to get robbed, because they’re going to get the pubs. I mean, Boris Johnson, … I hate that when people just call him “Boris” as well, as if he’s your mate! He’s not me mate! He’s a piece shit!

 

Boris Johnson said that he’s going to allow people to go to pubs. But then I saw the more sophisticated of the people who are against this saying like, this is just bait, because they’re not stopping the vaccine passports coming in, they’re just giving you a bit of wiggle room. It’s this kind of sales patter, where they give a little bit, they concede on one issue, but the general sort of plan they get it.

 

And so that you can see them falling into that. But like you look at the sort of the emerging populist resistance, people like Lawrence Fox. And they are just kind of screaming at this whole system which is coming in, instead of saying:

 

“Well, okay. We need to do this. We need to do that. We need to have at least some kind of vision.”

 

And time, and time again you see that sort of Right-wing people, if you can call him that, but whatever, it’s always this reactionary thing. Where it’s like always just complaining about the direction things are going. And if we kind of think it through we can acknowledge that these things are changing, but we want them in our way. We want them in our vision, or you’re just living in the vision of somebody else.

 

Woodlander: Yeah. I mean, people like Lawrence Fox, Farage, they’re still playing within the system! They’re just tinkering around at the edges. And they’ll pull people towards them. They’ll pull people in who think that it’s a respectable way to change things. But actually they don’t want to change things. They’re all for the system. And it will end up exactly the same! They’re still playing in the hall that belongs to someone else.

 

And whilst we’re doing that, whilst we’re allowing these elites to control everything, they’ll do exactly what they want to do they don’t care about us at all! We’re nothing more than figures on a spreadsheet to them. They’ll move populations around the world the same as an accountant moves figures around on a spreadsheet.

 

Morgoth: Yeah. It’s just a mass, we are just units on the screen. And so you need this vision to say:

 

“Well, no! This is what we want.”

 

I mean, we’ve been going for nearly an hour here. I don’t know how long you’ve got. But yeah, you can sit out, do you have a porch in your cabin?

 

Woodlander: I’ve got two. I’ve got a 12 foot porch out the front. And a 25 foot deck out the back. And for me, when I wake up in the morning and I grab a cup of coffee and I’ll go and sit out on the deck. And it’s like being on holiday every day., you know, that feeling when you get on holiday and people say:

 

“Do, you know what? I’d love to live somewhere like this!”

 

Well, that’s what I did. That’s what I built. Because that’s what I wanted!

 

 

Morgoth: And do you miss not having like a chicken burger, [chuckling] a processed chicken burger? Where like the chicken’s just all pressed and it’s got these tiny little stumpy legs, and it’s been injected with all kind of chemicals! Like would you not trade that in for a piece of that chicken?

 

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Woodlander: Definitely not! [chuckling] I mean, these things have like them saying you’re gonna have to eat maggot burgers, because we can’t raise animals. And I’m thinking:

 

“Well, I’ve probably got enough chicken and turkey here to last me five years!”

 

Do, you know what I mean? And they’re easy to breed. And they don’t take up any room. And if I can do it, then everyone could do it! So it’d like you’re talking bollocks!

 

Morgoth: So yeah, Bill Gates is buying up all the farmland in America, isn’t it? So my take on that it’s going to drive the price of beef through the roof. So only the elite can afford it, and we get like the maggot burgers.

 

Woodlander: Exactly it. I mean, he’s buying up all the farmland and then, on the other hand, most of his investment is going in two areas. One is lab grown meat. So he’s just gonna say:

 

“Right you can’t farm animals on my land. There won’t be any fucking meat. And his other area is population reduction! So he wants to reduce the population. And he wants people to eat whatever soy he’s making. But he’s got the money and the power to do it. It’s just unbelievable!

 

Morgoth: Yeah.

 

Woodlander: It comes a time where you do have to just say:

 

“Look, I can’t deal with any of this shit anymore. I’m just going to do it myself. I will do it for me!”

 

Morgoth: Yeah that has to be, … I cannot see a solution. I can’t see any other way out of this, than this kind of just sidestepping the system itself. That seems to be the only possible way we can do this. Which is why I was so like looking forward to having the chat about. Maybe when Odysee gets live streaming we’ll have another one. We’ll get the responders and questions and things like that.

 

But yeah, I think that’s definitely the way to go. And it’s not going to be easy. I’ve kind of repeated myself. But we have to have a response to what’s coming into this.

 

And I mean, one of the things just to touch on briefly as well is that it’s also sidestepping and escaping from a world where like Bill Gates opinion, like matters. Why is it that Bill Gates is so powerful? Like, why do people listen to him? And it’s for no other reason than he’s like a techno crap with a lot of money!

 

Again, like he’s looking at humanity just as these fungible units. And they’ve got no idea of the poetry of life, of any kind of positive vision, any kind of spiritual needs that people need. So in their mindset, the maggot burgers are enough, or the Netflix, and the streaming subscriptions. And like materially it’s enough for you to just exist.

 

Woodlander: Yeah.

 

Morgoth: For me it’s just hell!

 

Woodlander: It is hell. And the frightening thing is the end result of that. Because once we’ve been reduced to nothing but a commodity, nothing but a figure on a spreadsheet. And when they come to the conclusion that actually the only bad thing here is some of these figures, they need to go, what do they do?

 

Morgoth: Yeah.

 

Woodlander: And that that doesn’t leave us in a very good position. So I mean, yeah we’ve got to not just sidestep it but what we’ve got to do is actually start putting something together where we can show people an alternative.

 

Morgoth: Yeah. And what’s really interesting on that 80% figure, is that they’ve also assumed that there’ll be 20% of people who just flatly refuse to get the vaccine, and go get a digital ID online, and get sort of bullied and cajoled into it.

 

I think you were talking about this as well on one of your videos, where you’re always going to have a certain percentage of people who flatly refuse. And in order to have like a proper life you may well have to take that hit materially. You may never get to eat steak again. You may have toothache for longer, or this kind of thing. But you are going to have like a free life.

 

Woodlander: For me the faster they roll this out the better I think it will be for that 20%. Because we’re going to have to come to the conclusion that we’re not taking [60:01] part! It’s going to force people to go:

 

“Okay we need to do something ourselves. We need to have our own school. We need to have our own doctors. We need to have our own way of transporting food around. We need to do this! And you’re going to find 20 percent a lot of people! There will be separate communities. There will be a split society. And I don’t see that as a bad thing, because like ours would be better.

 

Morgoth: Yeah. And I see that emerging. I see that emerging. And like with that kind of sort of a bartering system, or maybe using crypto-currency and this kind of thing. Yeah, the preppers are [chuckling] gonna be vindicated! Nobody’s laughing at the preppers now! I know it’s an American thing.

 

I mean, this is another thing about the sort of going off-grid. I just didn’t think you could do it in England. I thought it was too small, too cramped, the bureaucracy would be horrendous! But yeah, it’s nice! It’s a White pill that you’re bringing yourself!

 

Woodlander: Well that’s all I’ve been trying to do as well. I mean, I’ve managed to fly right underneath everything, by just keeping my lip button slightly. And just dropping things in, which people can think:

 

“Do, you know what? That’s right, or that part is right, or I agree with that.”

 

And slowly, but surely people are getting the message that maybe that system isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Maybe there’s something else. Maybe there’s another way. And the more people will start to think like that you can start to grab them group together, and put something together! And then more people see it.

 

Morgoth: Yeah, I think that’s great. I think it’s great place to end it there. Let’s just over the hour mark. Well, we’ll definitely have another chat when I figure out how to use Odysee’s live streaming services. And right, thanks a lot. And thanks for listening folks.

 

Woodlander: Thank you.

 

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Morgoth’s Review – My Image of 2020 – An Analysis – Dec 7, 2020 — Transcript

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Morgoth’s Review – Reading ”American Extremist” by Josh Neal – Feb 6, 2021 — Transcript

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Morgoth’s Review – The Last of Us – Feb 24, 2021 — Transcript

Morgoth’s Review – How Piers Morgan Shapes the Discourse – Mar 3, 2021 — Transcript

 

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