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					<description><![CDATA[[Millennial Woes, a Scottish vlogger, discusses his recent doxing by the Main Sewer Media, Hope Not Hate and some low-life anti-fa types  — KATANA.] &#160; _______________________ &#160; YouTube Description &#160; &#160; The story of the attack on me by the Daily &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2017/01/23/a-woes-by-any-other-name-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Millennial Woes, a Scottish vlogger, discusses his recent doxing by the Main Sewer Media, <b><i>Hope Not Hate</i></b> and some low-life anti-fa types</span><span style="color: #008000;">  — KATANA.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span">The story of the attack on me by the Daily Record (including ace reporter Alan McEwen), the Scottish Sunday Herald, and other low-brow newspapers, done in collusion with Hope Not Hate and some gormless Scottish antifa.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Part 1: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AhMPTFRwPM#">0:00:00</a><br />
Part 2: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AhMPTFRwPM#">0:03:57</a><br />
Part 3: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AhMPTFRwPM#">0:28:02</a><br />
Part 4: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AhMPTFRwPM#">0:53:48</a><br />
Part 5: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AhMPTFRwPM#">1:08:42</a><br />
Part 6: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AhMPTFRwPM#">1:16:53</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">[This channel is my livelihood. Donations to www.paypal.me/MillennialWoes are appreciated, as are pledges on www.patreon.com/MillennialWoes and <strong>bitcoin</strong> donations to 1743rc3jnBaYL3piL9eeEHqbrXrroZLVWW. Thank you.]</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">[This video is not intended to condone violence or hate.]</p>
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<div id="watch-uploader-info" style="text-align: center;"><strong class="watch-time-text">Published on Jan 21, 2017</strong></div>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">TRANSCRIPT</span></h1>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[00:00]</strong></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2878-Woes-19th-Jan-2017-1.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25712" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2878-Woes-19th-Jan-2017-1.jpg" alt="" width="904" height="533" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2878-Woes-19th-Jan-2017-1.jpg 904w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2878-Woes-19th-Jan-2017-1-600x354.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2878-Woes-19th-Jan-2017-1-768x453.jpg 768w" sizes="(max-width: 904px) 100vw, 904px" /></a></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Part One: Introduction</b></span></h3>
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<p>Hello. This video is going to describe what has happened to yours truly over the last few weeks. And it’s going to be quite an involved story, I’m afraid. I’ll try to be brief, but we know that, I don’t tend to do that successfully very often. Nonetheless, I will try. But before I get into what happened, first things first. I’ve got a few messages from various people. To my supporters. These are the most important people. Thank you very, very much for the help you’ve given me over the last seven days! Thank you for the donations which have been very generous and numerous and certainly have made my immediate future more navigable than it was before. And also, thank you for the countless messages of moral support and encouragement that you’ve sent. Well, &#8230; It would have been pretty awful without them, honestly. I would have felt quite alone without that, so thank you!</p>
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<p>To the public. I do not hate. This is contrary to what you will have read about me in the press. These ridiculous articles that are being printed, or have been printed. I want to give you my side of things. You need to be able to see me as I am and not as these hack journalists portray me. I do not hate. I do not spew hate on this channel, or anywhere else. And I don’t, I don’t encourage hate either. And certainly not deliberately. I’ve no interest in doing that. I never have had any interest in doing that.</p>
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<p>I mean, we’ll get into that later. Anyway, to the police, because I know that I’ve probably been reported for “<i>hate speech</i>” in the last few days. I mean, I expect so.</p>
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<p>So on to the police. Honestly, it seems to me<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> that you have better things to do than investigate someone like me. I’m just a guy talking about the world and trying to do so honestly. And that’s all I’ve ever been doing on this channel. But, I know that you have to follow up on things. So, maybe I’ll be speaking to you soon.</p>
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<p>To the Scottish Government and judiciary. I don’t believe I’ve said anything illegal on my channel and I don’t think it’s “<i>hate speech</i>”. That is just an infantile category, of course. But I don’t think that what I do qualifies as “<i>hate speech</i>”. However, if you do put me on trial —and this is not threat. This is just what I think is likely to happen. If you do put me on trial for “<em>hate speech</em>” I think it will backfire hugely on yourselves, for various reasons. I have international support. Tens of thousands of people I know will rally around and it will just look ridiculous to put someone like me on trial. However, I’ll go into in more detail in a future video. For now, let’s concentrate on what has happened recently in the last two weeks.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-Part-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25718" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-Part-2.jpg" alt="" width="625" height="313" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-Part-2.jpg 625w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-Part-2-600x300.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px" /></a></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Part Two: What Happened</b></span></h3>
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<p>OK, so we’ll start with our rundown, a chronological rundown of what happened, starting from the 19th of November last year, 2016. And with the <strong>NPI</strong><span style="color: #008000;"> [National Policy Institute]</span> gathering in Washington DC. This is my, the third conference I’d attended and everything was going just swimmingly — up until the end of <strong>Richard Spencer’s</strong> speech, when some people gave Nazi salutes in the audience.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2868-Woes-at-NPI-Conference.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25702" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2868-Woes-at-NPI-Conference.jpg" alt="" width="849" height="478" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2868-Woes-at-NPI-Conference.jpg 849w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2868-Woes-at-NPI-Conference-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2868-Woes-at-NPI-Conference-768x432.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 849px) 100vw, 849px" /></a></p>
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<p>Now, I’ve talked about this before on the channel, briefly, but I think it’s worth emphasizing there were about, at least, three hundred people there, I believe, at that conference. And from the footage it looks like about four people did these salutes. I don’t know who they were. I saw one of them bragging about it on a forum.</p>
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<p>I don’t know if they were leftist infiltrators. I don’t know if they were just young men drunk and showing bravado. And I don’t know if they were genuine neo Nazis. But what I do know is that they did not represent the majority of that audience, or anything like it. They’re a tiny minority.</p>
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<p>And certainly it’s irritating when people do something like that and I get associated with it. That’s, it’s annoying! It’s inconvenient. Of course, it’s worth saying that our opponents on the opposite side of the spectrum do not have any fear about being associated with the extremists. Indeed, well some people who have attacked me recently, are proper Marxists and they have no shame about that, whatsoever.</p>
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<p>But, let’s leave that aside, the point is that “<i>Heilgate</i>”, as it has come to be known, clearly sow the seeds for trouble later on. I had premonitions about <strong>NPI</strong>. I thought something was going to happen at <strong>NPI</strong>. And as it turns out I was absolutely right. Three days after the conference, on the 22nd of November, some Leftie blog in Edinburgh, &#8230; Well I don’t know if it’s in Edinburgh, or Glasgow. Somewhere in Scotland. This Marxist blog, “<b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>”</p>
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<p>Now you can talk about the genesis of that name. The irony is delicious! Chairman Mao <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing loudly]</span> for God’s sake! Chairman Mao! And, in fact, I don’t really care to, it would take too long part. The point is, Chairman Mao asked for people to give their opinions, their criticisms of his regime. And then when those criticisms were too harsh, too inconvenient, he turned against it and halted the campaign and imprisoned people!</p>
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<p>And I thought, now when I read about that, I had heard the phrase “<i>One Hundred Flowers</i>” that was what it was called, this campaign. I’ve heard of before, but didn’t really know what it was. And when I Googled this I thought, “<i>Fuck me!</i>” you know, this total lack of self reflection! Which I’ve come to really associate with the Left. Perfectly example provided by Chairman Mao! When things go bad, &#8230; In fact, first of all you say you’re going to do this, but then, when it goes bad you just renege on that earlier promise. And then also you don’t, you know, you are not honest with the people and you’re honest with yourself either. Because you told yourself that you’re being open minded, but you weren’t at all. And you told yourself you’re being benign, or that you were a benign person. But, in fact, there’s venom in you! There’s hatred in you!</p>
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<p>So, the fact that these people would choose the name, “<i>A Thousand Flowers</i>” for their blog, I can’t help, but think it’s significant. Are they hoping to be ten times as self deluded as Chairman Mao?</p>
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<p>Anyway. So, three days after <strong>NPI</strong>, these people, this blog published a post about me, because I had spoken at that conference. It’s worth saying that the speech I gave was not really, it certainly wasn’t political, it was philosophical and spiritual. But, of course, that’s of no importance to these people. I’m just evil to them! So, I have to be vilified.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"> <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/MW-at-Scottish-Daily-Record-Building-Glasgow.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25719" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/MW-at-Scottish-Daily-Record-Building-Glasgow.jpg" alt="" width="1070" height="1004" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/MW-at-Scottish-Daily-Record-Building-Glasgow.jpg 1070w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/MW-at-Scottish-Daily-Record-Building-Glasgow-600x563.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/MW-at-Scottish-Daily-Record-Building-Glasgow-1024x961.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/MW-at-Scottish-Daily-Record-Building-Glasgow-768x721.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1070px) 100vw, 1070px" /></a></p>
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<p>And in that blog post they asked people to sell me out. They asked people to contact them with my details. Much as “<b><i>Hope Not Hate</i></b>”, has done eighteen months earlier, it’s worth saying. I did a video about that at the time. There’s no point going into it now. Now that was on the 22nd. The very next day, the 23rd, “<b><i>The Daily Record</i></b>” a Scottish tabloid, gutter newspaper, published an article. It was not on a prominent article, I think it was towards the back of the paper. And it was titled:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Who is this mystery Scottish racist who spoke at a rally where White supremacists gave Nazi salutes in support of Donald Trump!”</i></p></blockquote>
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<p>And then it continued:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>The vile blogger, believed to be from Edinburgh, gave a speech at a White Nationalist conference in Washington DC that has sparked a political firestorm!”</i></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2497.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25721" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2497.jpg" alt="" width="657" height="435" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2497.jpg 657w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2497-600x397.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 657px) 100vw, 657px" /></a></p>
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<p>And you can see them sensationalizing here. But, I also have to point out that the use of this word “<i>vile</i>” which is repeated over and over in <b><i>The Daily Record</i></b> coverage of me. Enough! I’m not going to go into that.</p>
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<p>This article also asked people to e-mail, or phone the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> with my information. Again, they were trying to get people to sell me out. And we’ll get into that later, but I just do want to ask, just drop the question in here. Why is it important? Why am I, why is my name important? Why is my age important? Why is my address important? Why is any of this important? Why do they want these details? Is it, because knowing these details will help them to understand my ideas? Why? Will it help the public to understand my ideas? How? There’s no reason for them to want this information.</p>
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<p>I said the same thing when <b><i>Hope Not Hate</i></b> tried to find me. It’s just ridiculous! It’s childish! Anyway, the print version of that article, which appeared the next day, I think, had the headline twisted! “<b><i>Can you identify a racist scum bag</i></b>?” Again, that this puerile, childish, spiteful, ignorant, close minded, yeah hateful, I think has the word, prose is not worthy of a national newspaper. And is not worthy of the British public. It’s insulting to everyone and well, as for me, I think calling me a racist scum bag is just ludicrous!</p>
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<p>I think it’s absurd!</p>
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<p>Anyway, that was going on and I was still in America at this stage. I think I came back, I should say I went back to Scotland about two weeks later. And it was decided as a result of all this new controversy, — which I have not sought, I had not wanted and they said later that sought, that I got notoriety, or I won notoriety — I had never, I’ve never wanted notoriety!</p>
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<p>But anyway, as a result of all this exposure, it was decided that I would move out, because I’ve been living with my dad. I decided that I would move out and get a flat of my own. It’s worth, it’s important to point out that my dad does not share my views. None of my relatives are very political, at all! And we agreed that it wasn’t fair for him, or them, to be associated with my views.</p>
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<p>So, I was going to move out. And, if you’re wondering why I at the age of thirty four was still living with my father, that’s gone into my channel long, long ago. So I was going to move out, but before I could do that I had the <b><i>Millennial</i></b>, the “<b><i>Christmas Hangeouts</i></b>” on my channel to organize and host. So, things had to be delayed. I couldn’t do it. However, by the fifth of January I was well on the way to finding a place of my own and I was probably about three weeks away from moving out.</p>
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<p>But then the next thing happened. On Thursday the fifth of January, 2017. There was a knock at the door at my house — my dad’s house — and I went and answered it. And I he’s twenty five or twenty six.</p>
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<p>I can’t remember what he said. I think he said, “<i>Hello. Collin?”</i></p>
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<p>And I said, “<i>Yes?”</i></p>
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<p>And he said:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>We’re here to talk to you. We’re here from the </i><b><i>National</i></b><i>. We want to talk to you about </i><b><i>Millennial Woes</i></b><i>.</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And I said — this was the first time, I mean, this was, immediately I knew, OK. I’ve been found. That’s it!</p>
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<p>And I said:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>I don’t want to talk to you about that. I’ve got nothing to say about that</i>.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And then he started talking, started saying something else. And then I noticed a car parked nearby with the window rolled down. And I said to him, “<i>Is that guy taking photos?”</i> I think it was a guy. I think there was a guy in there taking photos. And I said that to the journalist and he paused for a second and then said, “<i>Yes</i>”. And I looked him right in the eye and I said, “<i>Go away!”</i> And I was angry. I was disgusted!</p>
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<p>We’ll get into that later.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:00]</strong></span></h3>
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<p>So, he began, he actually looked scared, I have to say. He looked scared. I don’t kn why. And he began turning away and I just closed the door. So that was that. And then, what happened then? What happened then? Oh yeah. Nothing happened the next day. And then on what must have been the Saturday, Saturday the seventh of January. It was decided that I should just leave. I should just leave, because they’re going to keep coming now and indeed they did. I arranged my flight, my escape from Britain that day, on Saturday.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, at about noon, there was another knock at the door and I knew it was going to be a journalist, so I didn’t answer. And I have to say, this is the first time I’ve been in this kind of situation and I didn’t seek it out. I didn’t want it. I don’t really, I don’t want fame.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’m happy just working on YouTube. And to suddenly be thrown into this position where you’re having to deal, where you’re being publicly broadcast, like to everyone, nationwide, not just by an internet YouTube channel, but for a national newspaper. To be thrust into the public limelight and to have journalists coming to your house knocking on your door and, you know, that they don’t mean you well. You know, that they have malice for you. And to be in that position is rather scary, rather intimidating actually. For the first, &#8230; I think if it happened again I would deal with it a hell of a lot better, but it was scary!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was intimidating because, you know, these people mean you harm. It’s not that they’re going to beat you up, or something, but they think you’re a bad person. That’s the only reason they’re at your house. And so they have come to your house. They’ve come to your sanctuary. You know, your place where you’re safe from the whole world and they have violated that. They have taken that away from you. And, of course, this is the whole point. This is something that the the media have done to people for ever! And it’s disgusting! I mean you would think that they were dealing with really villainous people. People who deserve something like that. People who had committed crimes, you know, violent crimes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean just to emphasis, all I’ve done is say things on YouTube and I’ve gone to three conferences, spoken at three conferences. Anyway, a certainly on a Saturday there was a knock at the door and I knew it was going to be a journalist. So I just ignored it. And then I heard this voice coming round the back. He must have gone round the back of the house, trespassing on my father’s property, it’s worth saying. And he went around the back of the house, down the driveway, I think into the back garden. And I heard him say, what was it? It was a voice of this age, youngish guy, middle class, but not well spoken.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think he said something like:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Colin! Mr. Robertson! Are you there? Want to ask you a few questions!”</i></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I thought:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>For fuck’s sake!”</i></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, of course, I just, I didn’t do anything. I was just sitting there waiting for him to fuck off! And eventually he did.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t know how long he stayed for. But eventually he left.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think this was Liam. Let’s say, Liam, from the “<b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>” blog.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t know. I don’t know for sure. It might have been someone else from that blog. Or it might have been someone, &#8230; I don’t know. I think they did say that they had gone to the house that day. And he said, “<i>We want to ask you a few questions.</i>”<i> </i>So maybe it was multiple people from that blog. I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, at four thirty that day, the Saturday, I decided to email the <b><i>National</i></b> telling them that if they published the photos that they’d taken there on the Thursday, or my name or address, or anything like that, I would take a legal action against them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[20:06]</strong></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It is interesting that three hours after that e-mail was sent, “<b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>” doxed me by publishing the article. So I suspect that there was some communication between – and I don’t, can’t prove that. It’s just this supposition. I think that the <b><i>National</i></b> had communicated with “<b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>” saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>He’s threatened legal action against us, so we won’t publish it, so you go ahead and break the story, and that will circumvent normal journalistic rules and laws</i>”.</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think that’s maybe what happened, but I don’t know, and I’ll never be able to prove it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they published that at 7.30 p.m., roundabout. And one thing they did that did amuse me actually, about that article on “<b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>”. It said:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>After an extensive investigation we can reveal who Millennial Woes is</i>”.</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I have to say, you know, I don’t know these people personally, obviously, I’ve never met them, or anything, but I suspect that this is all self-aggrandisement. I don’t think that they had launched any “<i>extensive investigation</i>”. I doubt that they’d done anything at all. I think what happened was that simply, someone who knows me in real life – and I also I think I know who it was as well – but I think someone who knows me in real life sold me out. I think they probably contacted the <b><i>National, </i></b>who then gave the information to “<b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, I think that’s what happened. I don’t think there was any extensive investigation by these these numpties at “<b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>”. So, that’s what I think happened. I think someone contacted the <b><i>National</i></b> to sell me out, the <b><i>National</i></b> came to my house, but they were then ordered by me not to reveal the information, so they passed it on to “<b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>”, who published the information and then passed on to the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b>. Which I think also happened in November. I think it was “<b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>” first, and then immediately the next day the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, I think there’s communication between them as well, especially, because the guy who runs “<b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>” has previously written articles for <b><i>The Daily Record</i></b>. So, there we go. I just need to emphasize this, I can’t prove it! I don’t know for sure! It’s just what I suspect. I think there was collusion going on between the official press and anti-fa.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>OK. So that was the Saturday. I was doxed on that Saturday at 7.30. And then on the Sunday at about two p.m. – oh, well, before that my mother phoned to say that people had been round at her house. And they’d asked about me and she just closed the door in their face, which was rather amusing. But then I knew that they were bound to be coming round to my dad’s house. And, of course, just a few minutes later they did. And, you know, what it was? Someone knocking at the front door; but not in a normal way. Not in a warm way. It was three ominous thumps on the door like this: <span style="color: #008000;">[knocks on table three times]</span> . Like that. And I didn’t know who they were. I heard voices, and then they began talking to my neighbours, and it sounded like it was multiple men, that I didn’t know – it was difficult to tell. I looked outside and I saw the car.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there was a fat old guy in there looking at his phone and – he never seemed to put his phone down – and I looked out about ten minutes later and he was still there, and his colleague was still talking to my neighbours. It was really weird, and eventually they drove away. But then they came back, and then at that point I called the police, because I thought this is scary. Frankly, this is intimidating! And I’ll admit I was intimidated. Well done!</p>
<p>So, I called the police. Because I didn’t know if these were the same people who’d come the two times before – I didn’t know who they were. So, the police arrived and I had, oddly enough, I had spoken to both of them. It was two policemen, and I knew them both, because they had been at my house before, but we’ll get to that later.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:01]</strong></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They ended up going outside and speaking to the two – oh yeah, because that was it, the men had gone away by the time the police arrived, the men had gone away, again.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So then the police came in and spoke to me, but then the men came back for a third time and they were outside. One of the policemen went out and spoke to them, then both of the police went and spoke to them, and they’re talking to them for ages. It was like forty minutes or something. They ID’d the two men, it turned out that they were <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> journalists, and they told the police that there was going to be an article about me published the very next day.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, there was the fat old guy. I don’t know who he was. Maybe it was a photographer. Maybe he was hoping to get some photos of me. I don’t know. And then there was a younger guy. He was very tall. And I think he was Alan McEwen, but I don’t know, it was difficult to see. And that was really it. The men left after quite a long time. They’d spoken to several of my neighbours, and they had tried to frighten me. And it succeeded, honestly – I’ll be honest – and I think they had wanted to, well, do what journalists do. Do what unscrupulous, ruthless journalists have always done, which is to get someone on their doorstep, ask them a bunch of awkward questions, take photos of them looking scared etcetera.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, they didn’t get what they wanted, but they did at least get to manipulate my neighbours and inconvenience two police officers. And then they got a few quotes for their story, and then eventually they left.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2869-Flight-from-the-Doxers.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25703" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2869-Flight-from-the-Doxers.jpg" alt="" width="796" height="888" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2869-Flight-from-the-Doxers.jpg 796w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2869-Flight-from-the-Doxers-600x669.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2869-Flight-from-the-Doxers-768x857.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 796px) 100vw, 796px" /></a></p>
<p>And then, later that night, I left my house. I left that room. I was packing up the computer, I was packing up everything — frantically — and I was spirited away from that room where I created <b><i>Millennial Woes</i></b>!</p>
<p>All right, in the next segment, I will talk about the articles that were published the next day and in the subsequent days.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2525-Part-3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25713" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2525-Part-3.jpg" alt="" width="688" height="476" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2525-Part-3.jpg 688w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2525-Part-3-600x415.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Part Three: The Newspaper Articles</strong></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I could dissect the various articles that were written, but I don’t think there’s much point. They are simply disingenuous, hateful hate pieces, and they’re misleading, they’re manipulative; they’re awful! You know, I was never really – I had heard the phrase the gutter press – but I didn’t really know the reality of it until now. And, well, it’s sickening! Just sickening! The way they have portrayed me; the way they’ve lied about me, and picked out certain things, exaggerated them, given them undue emphasis, lied by omission, twisted certain things; it’s just awful!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And now – but I won’t go through dissecting them, but I will just pick up on certain things that I think especially relevant.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, the next day, Monday – this is the ninth of January 2017 – the piece was published. And this was written by the same journalist who wrote the previous <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> piece in November, Allen McKeown. And it was titled “<b><i>Meet the Vile Vlogger</i></b>” – the word “<i>vile</i>” again, they are very fond of that – “<b><i>Meet the vile vlogger, his racist rants have made him a global internet sensation!”</i></b>. Now, the phrase, “<i>a global internet sensation</i>” is, you know, – I’d like, you know, in a way: I don’t seek fame, but it would be kind of nice to be “<i>a global internet sensation</i>”: It would feed my ego – but the truth is that’s ludicrous exaggeration. My channel had fewer than twenty thousand subscribers at this time, when this was published. And that is… I’m not a global internet sensation and I’m a – I’m still a very long way from being that, so they’re sort of over egging my impact; my reach and my fame, or my infamy. So it’s absurd!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:21] </strong></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, it’s worth pointing out that this was not only, &#8230; It had a lot more prominence than the previous <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> article in November. This was a front page article! I was, &#8230; My face was plastered over the front page of <b><i>The Daily Record</i></b>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"> <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2499.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25722" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2499.jpg" alt="" width="567" height="1056" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2499.jpg 567w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2499-548x1020.jpg 548w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2499-550x1024.jpg 550w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 567px) 100vw, 567px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Ironically enough, next an article about a British woman who was accused of adultery by her violent Muslim husband in Bahrain and had successfully got a quickie divorce from him. I mean, for God’s sake! Anyway, &#8230; Let’s just ignore that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, the subtitle of this article was:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>The 34 year old extremist YouTube star is a jobless ex-student who films his hate filled videos from a bedroom at his dad’s!”</i></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, a few things. “<i>Extremist!”</i> Who’s the extremist? You know, I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. All I want is a safe society for my people, for my ethnic group. That’s just what everyone else in the whole fucking world wants, and had, up until very recently! You know, I mean, we demonized the phrase, “<i>Britain for the British!”</i> Why? What’s so bad about that? And what so extreme about that? It’s the way we evolved, it’s the way we are! Every other ethnic group wants this and most of them have it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what’s wrong with us wanting it? What’s wrong, what’s so extreme about me wanting that? That’s all I want.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I think the extremists are the ones, I think the situation is extreme! You know, this drastic mixing of global populations that’s going on just now. I think that’s a very extreme phenomenon! And I think the extremists are the ones who are perfectly happy with this radical change that’s going on. I think they’re the extremists. I think I’m just, &#8230; All I want is what our grandparents had and took for granted! Is that really extreme?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t understand how that’s extreme!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t want a totalitarian dictatorship. I don’t want goose stepping up and down the streets. And I don’t want any of these things that we associate with extremists. I don’t want violence, I don’t want bombs, I don’t want terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Am I an extremist?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t understand.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s my first objection to this ludicrous subtitle. The second one is the word “<i>jobless</i>” here. It describes me as a jobless, well the editor, whoever it was who came up with this. Describes me as a “<i>jobless ex-student</i>”. So, let’s deal with that, “<i>jobless</i>”. I’m not jobless! And the <b><i>Millennial Woes</i></b> project is my job. It’s my full time job! It’s what I do all the time. And if my channel gets taken down, by the way, <b><i>Millennial Woes</i></b> will still be my job. I’ll simply migrate onto other platforms, like many people have done before me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is my life and it’s my job. And I am certainly not jobless. But that’s just completely dishonest to describe me in that way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the other one, “<i>ex-student</i>”. <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing heartily]</span> I mean, that’s one of these phrases that doesn’t actually mean much at all, if anything. But it’s just designed to sound bad! And the fact of the matter is, anyone who was once a student is an “<i>ex</i>” student. Now I’m used to be a student, then I graduated. Now I’m an ex-student. Though, I don’t think there’s anything to hate there. I don’t think there’s anything laughable about that! So, what are they playing at? This manipulative nonsense!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then finally, “<i>his hate filled videos</i>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What the hell! <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> You know, maybe I sound hateful in this video, because I’m talking about people who have personally attacked me, but I don’t think I’m genuinely, &#8230; In fact, I’m sure I’m not hateful. I think that’s just a lie!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s so manipulative, it’s so, &#8230; It’s such a tainted version of, &#8230; A tainted representation of my channel and my work to say that it’s hateful. It’s dishonest, just dishonest! I think it’s bullshit to say that I’m hateful and to say that my work is somehow motivated by hate, or driven by hate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:09]</strong></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, I don’t accept that at all. It certainly goes on, Robertson, that is me <strong>Colin Robertson</strong>, admits being reported to police over his videos. Now again, quite frankly, this is just a lie! They are just lying! I do not admit to being reported to police. It wouldn’t surprise me if I’ve been reported to police, because as I said, because of the very sensitive climate that we live in now. But, I have no idea whether I’ve ever been reported to the police. It seems likely to me, but I don’t know whether it’s happened. And therefore why would I admit to it having happened?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’ve never admitted to it! I don’t know that it’s happened. So they’re saying that I’ve admitted to being reported to the police. No! No!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, that’s what I wanted to talk about, the article. And I want to also, &#8230; Oh yeah, I said that neighbors said they’d seen police officers call at his home late last year. It’s another quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Neighbor said they’d seen police officers call at his home, late last year.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I think it’s definitely worth going into this, because I think it is very significant. It wasn’t late last year, it was at the end of June. It was on the day of the Brexit referendum funnily enough. I had a hangout in the morning and then had a hangout at night and in between that and then after the second hangout as well, I was dealing with something. I was dealing with something very serious. Which required the attendance of the police at my house. So I’m going to tell you what it was. Just to show you how malicious and disgusting it is that they mentioned this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The truth is, that the police have indeed known who I am, since at least at the end of June and the Brexit referendum day at the latest. And maybe before then, but definitely since then. And I know this, because I doxed myself to the police on that day, June last year. And I did this in order to save a man’s life! How about that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Somebody contacted me through the channel. He was very depressed. I tried to counsel him, that was a few weeks before. Then he contacted me on that day, telling me that he was going to kill himself. I tried to talk him out of it. He was determined he was going to kill himself.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I contacted the police. They came to my house and interviewed me. They asked me how I got in touch, or how this guy had got in touch with me. I told them. I told them about the channel. They asked what it was called. I told them what it was called. So they knew from that point on, Colin Robertson, <strong><em>Millennial Woes</em></strong> at that address. And I then stayed up all night. Oh well, I did the second hangout about Brexit. And then the police arrived again at my house and we stayed up all night with police sitting next to me in the living room. And we were emailing this guy, trying to talk him out of it. And in the process of this they were able to locate him and save his life. Save him in time. He did actually attempt suicide. But, because of my help — I’m not bragging here, it’s just the facts of the matter — because of my help they were able to get him in time to save his life. And that is why there were police and my house.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, you could say that there were police at my house, because of my channel, back then. But the truth is without my channel that man would now be dead!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, I can legitimately say that I have saved lives with my channel and I wonder what <b>Alan McEwen</b> can say that he has achieved, with his work?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So! It really is fucking infuriating! And that’s why there were police outside my house. Not, because I’ve done something bad! It was because I was trying to save someone’s life!</p>
<div></div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:00]</strong></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As I say, ever since that day, they’ve known who I am, where I lived. So if they’d wanted to contact me they could have at any time and they haven’t. And also those two police who came and interviewed me about the man, they were the two police who came, &#8230; If go when the <em><strong>Daily Record</strong></em> journalists were outside my house. That’s how I knew them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, last Monday, last week, Monday the ninth. That was the day I left Britain so as to avoid any further encounters with shitty, immoral journalists! And frankly also, because I felt there was a lynch mob coming after me! And that certainly seemed to be what the newspapers were trying to promote, trying to encourage. I no longer felt safe in Linlithgow. I no longer felt safe in Edinburgh, and since I’m not a physical guy, I thought it was best not to risk it. I’m not going to become a martyr, not pointlessly, not just like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then once I reached my destination, I made a video, “<b><i>Fugitive Woes</i></b>” explaining the situation and asking for donations. And also saying that it might be the last video I uploaded to the channel. And I thought it was likely that the channel may get taken down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I also thought it was likely that I would be a reported for hate speech! Just all these SJW’s, all these antifas. And so I thought, I’m probably going to be, I might well be in court, sometime soon And so, if so, I’m going to need money. And before that I’m going to need money to move around, because if antifa is going to pursue me, then — and people will put me up, but only for so long — so I’m going to have to move between different places. I needed money and that’s why I asked for donations. That’s why I “<em>begged</em>” for donations, in the words of the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b>!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now that was two days later. The next day, the tenth, the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> put out their second article. This time anonymously. And can I just point out, the disgusting, laughable hypocrisy of boasting about “<em>unmasking</em>” someone and not even having the balls to use your own name! Because he done it before, the previous article was done by <strong>Alan McEwen</strong>, this one was anonymous <b><i>Record</i></b> reporter. Maybe it was <strong>McEwen</strong> who wrote it, maybe not. We’ll never know. He was anonymous. And this one of was titled “<i>Vile vlogger</i>” remember “<i>vile</i>”, I think this is the third time, the third time they described me as “<i>vile</i>”!</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Vile vlogger, Colin Robertson could face police probe over racists rants!”</i></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2509-Could-Face-Police-Probe.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25700" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2509-Could-Face-Police-Probe.jpg" alt="" width="846" height="653" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2509-Could-Face-Police-Probe.jpg 846w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2509-Could-Face-Police-Probe-600x463.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2509-Could-Face-Police-Probe-768x593.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 846px) 100vw, 846px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>We unmasked Collin Robertson yesterday!”</i><span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span></p>
<p>“<i>&#8230; And Hope Not Hate say that he should face a police investigation.</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, this is a bit weird, honestly. I think that they were doing some sort of damage control with this article. I think they realized that they had gone too far with the previous article and therefore they were probably going to need to make me look like even more of a villain. So they, I think, they were trying to encourage people to report it to the police. And they were trying to encourage the police to investigate me. So they were then wouldn’t have to answer for vilifying me. I think that’s what the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> was doing here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As for <b><i>Hope Not Hate</i></b>, who they had apparently consulted about my “villainy” — <b><i>Hope Not Hate</i></b> is a joke organization, but we’ll get to them in a few minutes. And then on the next day, and by this time they’d seen my video “<b><i>Fugitive Woes</i></b>”, this is on the eleventh of January. Again, an anonymously written article in the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b>.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Vile</i>”, yet again, the fourth time:</p>
<p>“<i>Vile YouTube racist flees to US and puts out the begging bowl after the Record exposes him!”</i></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What fucking heroes you are, <b><i>Daily Record</i></b>! What public servants!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:00]</strong></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the subtitle:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Hate filled vlogger Colin Robertson says he may have posted his last vile rant, &#8230;</i>”<i> </i>the fifth time!</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it says:</p>
<blockquote><p>“.<i>.. He may have posed as his last vile rant online as he begs supporters for donations to keep him going!”</i></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2498.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25698" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2498.jpg" alt="" width="851" height="872" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2498.jpg 851w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2498-600x615.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2498-768x787.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 851px) 100vw, 851px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, just in that sentence alone at least these two, the words “<i>vile, racist, begging, hate filled, vile</i>” and “<i>begs</i>”. Now, I know that I’m ranting a bit in this video for, I think, understandable reasons, but just thinking about these words here, “<i>vile, racist, begging, hate filled, vile, begs</i>” do you think they’re being fair to me?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you think our press are being fair, even handed, open minded?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I’m angry! Right now, I’m fucking angry at these people! If I sound hate filled, <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> I think you can understand why. And if I’m ranting, I think you can understand why.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s a campaign of vilification. And I don’t want to sound like I’m feeling sorry for myself. Honestly, this hasn’t been the most fucking pleasant experience!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’m sure they’ll probably write another article, once they see this video, they’ll probably, write another article, saying, you know, vile, whatever, does something, moans about us doing our duty as a public, &#8230; For, fuck off! Just, just fuck off! This sickens me, sickens me! The tactics, that attitude! The lack of scruples.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, that’s pretty much all I’m going to say about the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b>, I think. Yeah, I think so.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’ll move on to some other things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Oh yeah, there were articles in various other papers. They’ve been spawned by this <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> campaign. If I remember correctly, these other peoples were the <b><i>Daily Mail</i></b>, the <b><i>Daily Mirror</i></b>, <b><i>The Sun</i></b> and the Scottish <b><i>Sunday Herald</i></b>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2876-Sunday-Herald-pic-of-Woes.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25704" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2876-Sunday-Herald-pic-of-Woes.jpg" alt="" width="658" height="947" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2876-Sunday-Herald-pic-of-Woes.jpg 658w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2876-Sunday-Herald-pic-of-Woes-600x864.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 658px) 100vw, 658px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now I won’t talk about the others, but the Scottish <b><i>Sunday Herald</i></b> article is interesting, because, <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> well firstly, because it uses a photo taken by <b><i>The National’s</i></b> photographer back on the Thursday. The first, the fifth, when he had been, .. I thought, it looks like, &#8230; I thought the photographer had been hiding in the car with the window rolled down. But that was off to the left. This photo looks like it was taken right in front of the door. So, I don’t know how that happened maybe he was hiding in the opposite driveway, the opposite side of the road. I don’t know! But it’s a weird, it’s a strange. And also I have to say that the photo off me is so dreadfully bad! It’s a terrible, terrible photo! <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> This is kind of thing you just gotta laugh about, you know. It’s, you see this photo of me and I look, &#8230; They’ve made me look as bad as possible! I’m sure they’re probably took dozens of photos in those few seconds, that I’ve had the door open. But they’ve chosen the one where I look awful.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s amazing that there are photographers, and this is part of the malice of the press, there are photographers whose job it is, to make their subjects look as bad as possible. In this case there’s no way to sugarcoat it. I look like a whale! Coming up for air out of the sea! And it’s terrible. But I don’t know, I mean, I think they must have caught me in middle-sentence, or something. I don’t know. My mouths wide open. I look terrible!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway. It’s one of those things. It does bother one! You know, it’s like, “<i>God, could you have made me look any worse?”</i> And they’re obviously trying to make me, make the public think, “<i>God! What a fat loser!”</i> and “<i>How stupid he looks, how thick he looks!”</i> and so on. Whatever!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2877-Joe-Mulhall-Twitter.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25705" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2877-Joe-Mulhall-Twitter.jpg" alt="" width="876" height="354" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2877-Joe-Mulhall-Twitter.jpg 876w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2877-Joe-Mulhall-Twitter-600x242.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2877-Joe-Mulhall-Twitter-768x310.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 876px) 100vw, 876px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, that was one thing. And the other thing that was interesting about the <b><i>Herald</i></b> article is that it had this quote from some guy from <b><i>Hope Not Hate</i></b>. And in that it was <b>Joe Mulhall</b> from <b><i>Hope Not Hate</i></b> and here’s the quotation.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>If the American stuff hadn’t happened, he would just be an online irrelevance, his YouTube views aren’t massive, but the American stuff makes him of interest,</i>” “<i>It pulls him into the higher leagues of this cesspool of people all pumping this stuff out online.</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span"><strong>[50:01]</strong></span></b></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s Joe Mulhall. I have to say, if I am just an online irrelevance, then why was your organization trying to hunt me down, trying to get people to sell me out, trying to get my details as far back as eighteen months ago in July, 2015. It’s a bit weird isn’t it? For your organization to do that to someone who’s just an online irrelevance. Of course, the same questions apply as applied with the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b>. Why do you want my details? Why do you want my name? Why do you want my age? Why do you all my address? What has that got to do with any of my ideas? What has it got to do with my work? I don’t think it’s got anything to do with my work, or my ideas! I think you’re just trying to intimidate people!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think that’s why you asked them for my, &#8230; Why you asked people to sell me out, eighteen months ago, Hope not Hate. First, I invited you to a debate on the channel where we could talk about our ideas and our disagreements, but you’ve never got in touch, because you don’t do that kind of thing. That would be too reasonable, that would be too human. You’re in the business of intimidation and silencing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Fucking pieces of shit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, to be fair to <b>Joe Mulhall</b>, maybe he doesn’t know about this, that his organization which wanted to hunt me down eighteen months ago.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, let’s assume that he’s speaking honestly and he sees me as just an online irrelevance. Until I got involved with<b> NPI</b>. Well in that case, I have to say I think he’s rather behind the times. Now, to say that someone is just an online irrelevance, that’s really behind the times when it comes to cultural movements. The fact is they are online now. Everything important happens online nowadays. Apart, obviously, from real life instance when someone gets shot, or whatever. You know, cultural movements happen online.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think this is very interesting, because it shows that these people that <b><i>Hope not Hate</i></b> and similar organizations are still dinosaurs! I mean, they still think it’s the nineties. And they can vilify nationalists, when they think that Nationalists are just bugs, skinheads marching down a street causing trouble. And, of course, even then they were organizations like <b><i>Hope not Hate</i></b> were demonizing them out of hand. But still, I know that those guys were not angels. But the point is that <b><i>Hope not Hate</i></b> and similar organizations have not moved forward. They think and they’re desperate to paint people like me, as people like that. Because, if they didn’t do that then they would have to engage with me on an intellectual level. They would have to engage my ideas. And they’ll never do that! Because whenever they do try that, they lose.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they have to say things like this, what was the phrase, “<i>this cesspool of people pumping this stuff out</i>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whatever! And I just think it’s rather interesting and I think that <b><i>Hope not Hate</i></b> are a bunch of dinosaurs and as I get to in the next segment, I think that the mainstream media, the legacy media, the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> and so on, I think they’re just a bunch of dinosaurs as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, we’ll get to that in a wee minute.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2880-Start-of-Part-4.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25717" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2880-Start-of-Part-4.jpg" alt="" width="728" height="529" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2880-Start-of-Part-4.jpg 728w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2880-Start-of-Part-4-600x436.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 728px) 100vw, 728px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Part Four: Thoughts on the Legacy Media</b></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>OK, in this segment I’m going to summarize the newspaper coverage. Hopefully get this over with.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All right, so some questions for the media. Of course they’ll never answer them, but still, let’s just put them out as rhetorical questions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What is the purpose of going to my house? What is the point of that? Do you really think you’re going to get an enlightening calm interview by showing up out of the blue to someone to whom you are clearly vehemently opposed and who you are at trying to set up. And trying to get his neighbors, also poised against him? Do you think you’re going to get some choice “<i>quotes</i>”? Do you think you’re going to get a picture of the real man, the real person by just showing up at the house, out of the blue? Doesn’t seem very likely. I think if you don’t expect to get a good interview from me, or from similar people by showing up at our houses.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think you do that specifically and solely to intimidate to make them feel unsafe in their own homes. I think that’s why you do it. And that’s what you were hoping to do. I think you’re also going to get some horrible photos of me as well, looking shocked that I’ve been discovered!</p>
<div></div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:23]</strong></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So another question for you, because you’re not going to answer them so I’ll move on to the next. What is the purpose of printing my name and address in public? Was the point? It’s my ideas that matter, not me. I am not important at all! And as for my address, what on earth does that have to do with my work, or of my ideas, or anything that I do? Why do people, why do the public need to know where I live? Are you crazy? I mean, that, all you did was, &#8230; Let’s just cut to the chase <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> and need all these other papers.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The only reason you did that was to endanger me! That’s what I think. And that’s what a lot of people think. I think is what a lot of the public who are not connected to me in any way also think about this. About what you’ve done.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, finally another question What is the purpose of talking to my neighbors? And by the way, apparently he, I don’t know whether I said this earlier, but I’m going to include it again. He said to my neighbor, one of them, because I talked to him afterwards. This neighbor, apparently the journalist said to him:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>So, how does it feel to be neighbors with our racist and anti-semite?</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Again, are you expecting, or what are you expecting? And he asked some other questions like that. Are you expecting truth, calm reasoned discussion? I don’t think you are.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I also think you don’t care about how it affects me, or my family, when you say something like that to my neighbors.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, as for the articles themselves, it’s difficult to avoid noticing that they don’t contain a single argument against my ideas, or my views, or my opinions. Not a single argument! And there’s just demonization of my ideas, my opinions, and so on. And character assassination of me! Often quite pointed and ruthless, merciless, below the belt! And I shouldn’t be surprised. I’m not really surprised, but I just want to point it out. That they don’t make any attempt to refute my ideas about the world, about people, or anything. Just demonize those ideas and demonize me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another point that has to be made about, especially about the tabloids, especially about the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> articles, is the puerile prose! Honestly, it would be marked down if it were an essay at school. It’s appalling! It’s very, very bad writing! Not grammatically, it’s grammatically correct, but the attitude! I mean, if I’d written an essay like that at school I would have been marked down, very much, because, apart from anything else, it shows no lack of interest<span style="color: #008000;"> [sic]</span> whatsoever in the subject, or his ideas, or his reasons for holding them. It’s just a rant! I mean, if you want to see a rant, read one of these articles about me in the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b>. They constantly insist that I constantly rant.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you want to see “<i>hate</i>”, read one of those articles about me. You’ll see hate. They’re appalling, it’s terrible journalism!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s also worth pointing out that they’re attacking someone for his ideas, not his deeds. This is something in itself. A person’s moral value being judged not by what he does, but by what he believes. That is an interesting intellectual discussion to be had about that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think that, perhaps, someone’s beliefs are a reflection of their core nature, to some extent. But, you can’t afford to judge them in that way, because it’s just, &#8230; I mean, everyone has all sorts of beliefs that they may not act upon, or rather they may not want the world to know, because they’re not sure. And they’re not sure about how it fits into a bigger system and so on. So to judge someone by their ideas is very slippery ground, indeed. And that’s why we insist on judging them by their actions. That’s just a prerequisite of living in a sane society.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[60:04]</strong></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, another point I wanted to make about everything that’s happened, is old media tactics, legacy media tactics. And I use that phrase quite gleefully, the legacy media, because I think these dinosaurs are doomed. We’ll get to that in a minute. Let’s just talk about these tactics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You have to know the person’s name. You have to publicize their name! You have to publicize their address! And you have to show up at their door, out of the blue, even though this does not in any way aid the discourse! Which is what you’re supposed to be doing. I mean, that’s what I do, public discourse, journalism. That’s public discourse. But these tactics of basically intimidation. They don’t aid that in any way. And I think nowadays we know that, it’s just, it’s so crass and obvious.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t think that the alternative media will go in for that kind of thing, so much. I think it’s very often an other age, a previous age. And everyone can see the cruelty of them. The crassness of then.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then as for trying to set my neighbors against me. Get me ostracized in my community and ruin my life. And let’s not beat about the bush, that is what they tried to do. The <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> has tried to ruin my life! Let’s not split hairs about that. That’s what they’ve tried to do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And them failed, of course! But that is what they’ve tried to do, nothing short of that. So trying to set my neighbors against me! God! I don’t know what to say! There’s no, &#8230; It’s just so obviously, self evidently wrong and immoral. So, yeah! OK.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the issue of free speech. They shut down the comment thread under these articles, because they’re getting such bad feedback from the public. Thye shut down the comments threads after trying to shut down me. <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> It’s ludicrous! And then, the other thing, witch hunt slash lynch mob. That’s what they were doing! They were engaging in a witch hunt. And it might not be over yet? You know, I mean, I talk in the past tense but they might still continue it. I don’t know. But if they do, I want this video, I want this video to survive on. This video to be evidence of what they’ve done from my point of view. I want my side of the story to be out there. This is why it is essential to do this video. Because these people are expert at manipulation and distortion. And they have tried to instigate a witch hunt and a lynch mob. I think that’s what they were trying to encourage.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t know how much of the public would fall for such a thing. Indeed, I think increasing numbers of the public share my ideas. I really do think that. And so, I don’t know if it would ever happen. Certainly there are some sections of the public who probably would want to lynch me. <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> It seems ludicrous, because I know that I haven’t harmed anyone and I haven’t wished anyone harm. But certainly when you read those articles about me you probably, you could be forgiven for thinking that I’m just a piece of shit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So again, is this responsible journalism? I hardly think so. But! One thing that I must say, for moral reasons and for more pragmatic reasons, I must say that I don’t want these journalists to be harassed. I think these people should be judged by the public and the through the usual channels. Through the proper channel. And I think they’ll be judged harshly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, a few other points, about the mainstream media, the legacy media. The circulation of the <b><i>National</i></b> newspaper is fifteen thousand, which is minuscule for a paper.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s worth saying that I’ve got more than that. When this broke, I had twenty thousand, or just under. I’ve actually got more subscribers than the <b><i>National</i></b> has readers. It’s kind of amazing! The Scottish <b><i>Sunday Herald</i></b>, twenty five thousand. And for a national newspaper that is tiny and if you look at the graph, the trend, of all these newspapers, it’s remarkable how they’re just losing readers, hand over over fist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[64:55]</strong></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s, that. Then there’s the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b>, one hundred seventy six thousand. <b><i>Daily Mail</i></b>, one point five million. <b><i>Daily Mirror</i></b>, one point nine million. And <b><i>The Sun</i></b>, four and a half million. And all of these, I mean, some of these are big numbers still, but they’re nothing compared to what they were ten years ago. And I think this is very interesting, because some we’ve seen in recent months, several attempts by established media outlets to demonize alternative media outlets. “<i>Fake news</i>”, that phenomenon that they’ve just invented out of thin air.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then something like this, I mean, you know, I have enough subscribers to rival the <b><i>National</i></b> and the Scottish <b><i>Sunday Herald</i></b>. I think, I honestly think they’re a bit freaked out. And I think that they can see their doom coming. You know, the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b>, I think within five years they might be bankrupt. I don’t know, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think they can feel it. And so, they’re freaked out and they’re vengeful. And that might explain some of their behavior. But it’s not surprising that people are abandoning them, because of things like this! Things like what’s happened to me! Their treatment of me has been dishonest and malicious and I think that a lot of the readers can tell that. You know, you’ve only got to come and see my channel. It’s blatantly obvious that I’m not the man they’ve described. And I think people are sick of this stuff, you know, the contempt that these newspapers have for their readers.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think there’s an inevitability to all this, which is kind of comforting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One final thing about this. I want to emphasize I will not do any interviews with any of these newspapers, or any media outlets, any established mainstream media outlets.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t trust them! I think they are utterly uninterested in being honest! And I think, well as I say, I think they’re malicious. I think they have no scruples. There are other words I could use to describe them, but I will hold back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The only newspaper I would consider cooperating with would be the local paper in the Linlithgow, because that’s more personal. I don’t like the people from Linlithgow being manipulated, being lied to. Actually, I don’t think it’s been successful, because it’s obvious that the whole the whole town knows by now. And people have contacted and me who haven’t spoken to me years and years, have contacted me. Just offer their support and say that they know the papers are lying about me. You know, people see through this shit! But nonetheless, I would like to set the record straight, so to speak, by speaking to the local Linlithgow paper. That’s the only one I’d consider, and even then I would want a guarantee that they’re going to, well, not misrepresent me, or to do so to a minimal extent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As for the rest of the newspapers, fuck them! Fuck them all! And their conduct has utterly disgusted me! And I think many other people too. If ever, there are an example of why the legacy media should die a quick death, I think the way they’ve treated me probably qualifies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2526-Part-5.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25714" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2526-Part-5.jpg" alt="" width="582" height="472" /></a></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Part Five: Thoughts on the Antifa</b></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>OK. Now I’m going to talk about the anti-fa<span style="color: #008000;"> [anti-facist]</span> activists who are involved this. The names of these activists, these Marxists, and they are proper Marxists, have been widely disseminated.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I wasn’t responsible for the discovery of their names and I wasn’t responsible for the disseminating of their names, either. Since I’m a nice guy, I’m not even going to name them here, even though the information is widely available. I’m not going to do it. Because I’m above you people! I don’t do the kind of things that you do! And I know you’re watching. I know you’re watching.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, I’m certainly not going to publish their addresses, or other photographs, or photos of the homes either.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Imagine that? However I will list their first names. Just for the sake of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Liam. Lovely Liam. Sarah. Lindsay. Jonathan. Ashley. And fanboy Jammie.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span"><strong>[70:10]</strong></span></b></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I want to say that the full names, addresses and phone numbers of these people were all found by members of the Alt-Right, within five hours of the article being published on <b><i>A Thousand Flowers</i></b>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That really didn’t take very long. And there was no extensive investigation. There was no months of waiting and searching and hunting. It was all done, it was all managed in a few hours. They knew who you are. And it was rather amusing, a few days later when the <b><i>Daily Record</i></b> out, I had a look on Twitter and these numpties, these anti-fa Marxists, were puffing themselves up for doxing me. It was so strange to watch them being all triumphant. And they had no idea that they had already been identified days earlier. They were basking in the glow of self-satisfaction for endangering someone that they disagreed with.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>God, it’s sickening! It’s sickening!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, the ringleader, for what it’s worth, Liam seems to be a middle class ne’er do well who has been in scraps with the police. And yes, there he is. To do with that and I won’t go into it now, but he doesn’t seem to be a very well adjusted young man. And then the rest of them look like a fairly typical assortment of troubled young leftists who display the three prime traits of, well what I would call that the prime traits of leftists.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Smugness, lack of self reflection and self knowledge, and irrational, almost unbridled hatred of their opponents, or people they see as their opponent. Smugness, lack of self reflection and self knowledge, and irrational hatred of their opponent. It’s so typical, down the ages. And here they are, another iteration of blind leftists.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One of them said that doxing a fascist — by which he was referring to me — isn’t the same as doxing saying an ordinary person. And this is an exercise in dehumanizing their opponents so that they can abuse him and put them in danger.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’m sure there’s a psychological term for it. “<i>Transference</i>”, or something. I don’t know. It’s very interesting to witness. No, he’s not an ordinary person. Doing this to him is not the same as doing it to an ordinary person. We can endanger him without feeling bad.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the ringleader, Liam, &#8230; His father congratulated him on, I think it was on Twitter, on publishing my details! Imagine that? I think it’s bizarre and sickening that a father would congratulate his son on endangering another man.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Well done son! You endangered that guy. You put his life at risk. Well done! I’m proud of you!”</em></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What kind of family is that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Ideological leftists, I think is the answer. But good God!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, also incidentally, there was apparently a prank phone call made to that father. And I want on record, so to speak, that I had nothing to do with this. I put the message out once I heard, around that people had found their names and addresses. I didn’t want trouble. And I put the message out:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Don’t harass these people. We should be better than them.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, unfortunately, not everyone heeded that call and somebody phoned his father. It’s unfortunate and regrettable. To be honest I don’t really want to beat on these anti-fa losers very much, because it seems to me that they are just naive, internally troubled. And, of course, they would laugh about that Scoff at that, the very idea that they’ve got any psychological frailties, but I’m pretty damn sure they have. I think though, troubled, naive young idealists, who probably have heads full of bright ideas and not a shred of realism and not a shred of self reflection.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[75:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I also think they have probably been used as pawns, useful idiots, by other people who are more powerful. But, I don’t want to get too paranoid about that. Could be that this is just all their game. I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, I think the salient point is that anti-fa, including these Marxists, have a limited window in which to operate. Much like the legacy media have a limited time frame.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anti-fa, ten years from now, I think will be despised by the public in general. I’m pretty damn confident about that. And I think that probably they are as well. I think they probably sense this as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Unsavory people indeed! And honestly, I think they are tragic people! And they are lost, lost young people!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How much compassion should I show them? They’ve endangered me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s funny, I can’t help feeling sorry for them. I can’t help, .. I actually feel some concern for these people, can you believe that? I actually do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think I’ll end this segment now, before I get too nice, because these people are after all fucking villains! I mean, what they’ve done is shitty! Yeah. I’ll leave it there.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2527-Part-6.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25715" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2527-Part-6.jpg" alt="" width="604" height="459" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2527-Part-6.jpg 604w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Woes-By-Any-Other-Name-2527-Part-6-600x456.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 604px) 100vw, 604px" /></a></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Part Six: Closing Thoughts</b></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>OK. And some closing thoughts.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At the end of this Sunday’s, what is it, the Scottish Sunday Herald article, read thus:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Last year was a good one for the Alt-Right. The election of Trump has bolstered the movement thinning the lines between the broad alternative American right and the White nationalist extremism of the Alt-Right. This year hasn’t been a good one for Collin Robertson.</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>There’s this note of rather sickening triumphalism;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Last year was a good one for the Alt-Right. This year hasn’t been a good one for Collin Robertson</i>.”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they wonder why I refused their interview back in November.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I have to say, on the contrary, my channel has grown by twenty percent since this whole thing started. And what’s more, the exposure has achieved what ten years of torment couldn’t achieve. It has finally got me out of the house!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’ve finally flown the nest! And well, as for my name being known, so what? I never wanted a normal life anyway. It’s not going to be possible, now. But I don’t care! I never wanted one. So, I haven’t really lost anything there. And then what’s in a name? I mean, why did they want my name in the first place? What do you think you’ve won?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I would say to the mainstream media and these anti-fa types as well, who are involved in it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyone, and this is really crucial, anyone can look at my work, whether it’s on YouTube, or anywhere else. Anyone can look at my work and see that I’m not the villain you’ve tried to paint me as.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, they will see how dishonest you are! And for what it’s worth, since this all started, four thousand people HAVE looked at my work and they have liked what they’ve seen! And have realized that you are disgracefully dishonest! So, so far, although it has been stressful, 2017 has actually been a very good year for me. I’ve got four thousand new subscribers [laughing] and I’m away from home.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I no longer live my dad! So you can’t even use that charge against me anymore.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’ll see what the rest of 2017 has and store. And I’m not complacent about this. It might well be a stressful year. But, certainly I think it’s rather too early for the mainstream media to be smug about this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, one final thing. In all of this they have tried to paint me as a villain, hater, ranter, whatever else, neo-Nazi, racist and all this. But also, they’ve tried to paint me as some kind of political activist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[80:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I started this channel three years ago. Actually, funnily enough something I meant to mention is that. That guy turned up at my door on the fifth of January. That was the anniversary ersary of the first video being uploaded to the channel. Rather ironic! Anyway, I started this channel three years ago thinking that it would come to nothing. I thought I’d make fifteen, or twenty videos. No one would watch them, and I would just lose interest and give up and find something else to do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I never intended it to be political activism. And even as it grew, I didn’t intend it to be political activism. And I don’t see myself as a political activist. The world of politics does not appeal to me. I think it’s a cesspit! And I don’t think I’d be any good in that world.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I don’t see myself as a political activist. If anything, and this sounds a bit pretentious, I’m going to say it. I see myself as a psychological activist, or even a spiritual activist. I see myself working at that level. I’m trying to help people as individuals and as a group, my group.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, that’s what I’m trying to do. I’m trying to heal people. To help them overcome the nihilism and the confusion of the age that we live in.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In my work I try to understand the world. I try to understand people, and to help them, enlighten them, inspire them, work through their problems, counsel them and bring them together with other people. In the course of doing so I have enabled relationships to begin and children to be conceived <span style="color: #008000;">[there’s a joke somewhere there — KATANA]</span> . And occasionally I have even saved lives.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, I’m not ashamed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’m not ashamed of what I’ve done! And I’m absolutely going to continue!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>So, I hope you have enjoyed your campaign. It has backfired! It has failed!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It has benefited me! And it has only encouraged me to keep going.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you for watching.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[83:18]</strong></span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">See Also:</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[After a year&#8217;s break from blogging and interviews TANSTAAFL returns with this interview with John Friend at his <strong>The Realist Report</strong> site. I consider TANSTAAFL to be one of the most insightful commentators on the jewish problem, and in this interview he doesn&#8217;t disappoint with his take on what&#8217;s being going on in our movement to expose and rid ourselves of the organized evil jewish cabal that dominates our societies.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Topics include; the ongoing jew war on Whites, the meaning of “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”, kikeservatives, Twitter, the jewsmedia, Trump, Bannon, (((the echo meme))), Alt-Right, Richard Spencer, Greg Johnson, Jared Taylor, Hitler and National Socialist Germany, and White racial consciousness — KATANA.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span">On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined once again by Tanstaafl of <strong><a class="external" href="http://age-of-treason.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Age of Treason</a></strong>. To begin the program, Tanstaafl gives listeners an overview of what he’s been up to lately, including being banned from Twitter for making factual statements about Jews and their anti-White agenda. We move on to focus on the Jewish problem more generally, and the open and quite blatant war being waged on Whites by the organized Jewish community. We also discuss Trump’s election, the Alt Right, and related topics.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> All right folks. Welcome back to another edition of the Realist Report. This is your host John Friend.</p>
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<p>Joining me today is Tanstaafl, who maintains the excellent website <a href="http://age-of-treason.com">Age of Treason</a>. Tanstaafl is one of the most insightful and articulate commentators in the alternative independent media today, especially when it comes to the jewish problem. A topic that we will be discussing at length during this podcast.</p>
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<p>Tan, thanks for joining me. How are you today, sir?</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Good John. I’m just getting over a cold as you know. But feeling much better today.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, you sound fine and, you know, if you’ve got to sneeze, or cough, or anything, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> I may! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> &#8230; Just put yourself on mute and I’m sure we can deal with it.</p>
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<p>Thanks for coming on the program. Last time you were on was actually a year ago, exactly. I was just looking at my website, and one year ago, today. Well, I guess when I post this program, which will be technically tomorrow, December 7th. You were on. And I had been wanting to interview you for a long time because I followed your work for a number of years and listened to pretty much all of your podcasts. And you’ve been a big influence in my thinking, especially when it comes to racial issues and, of course, the jewish problem.</p>
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<p>So, just to get started, could you talk about what you’ve been up to lately? I know you were recently shoahed from Twitter. So you are no longer on Twitter, but I see you’ve been blogging a lot lately. So, why don’t you just tell us what you’ve been up to.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, yeah, I wouldn’t call it a lot. I’ve actually been pretty inactive for the last year. Actually, it started even before I talked to you last.</p>
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<p>But, I’ve been active mostly on Twitter. I had stopped blogging so much. Before I had been in the habit of posting about once a week, once every couple of weeks, and it really dropped off to almost nothing.</p>
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<p>But Twitter is, &#8230; It wasn’t because I was not paying attention to what was going on and didn’t have thoughts. It was just because I was expressing myself mainly through Twitter. Which is really a different form of media. It’s like, it’s been called a “<em>micro blog</em>”, and that is really a good description for it.</p>
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<p>So, instead of writing these long posts on a blog, you write little snippets of thoughts that fit in 140 characters. And you can whip them off pretty quickly, and in response to lots of different stories. So it’s becomes addictive! You know, you’re sitting there paying attention to what’s going on in the news, what everybody’s excited about and you have some insight into it, or you just want to bring it to other people’s attention and you comment on it.</p>
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<p>And the big problem with it, as I found out — I was well aware I was just wondering when it would happen — but I found out a couple of weeks ago right, you know, few weeks after the election. When Twitter decides that you’re too much of a problem, they can just delete your account and it’s as if you never existed.</p>
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<p>So, I don’t really plan on going back, as useful as I found it. Most of the value was, for me, besides sharing thoughts with other like minds, was, &#8230; What I found on Twitter was that basically the enemy is using it as a communication platform. Very similar to what was uncovered back several years ago. I think 2012 election cycle. The journalist email list that they used to use back then — it might have been even 2008 cycle? I can’t recall now. It was quite a while ago.</p>
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<p>But basically before Twitter existed, the jews and the jews media, and their fellow travellers, used to communicate with each other via a private email list, that was invite only. But it was a massive number of people. And when it was uncovered and the e-mails were shared by somebody, it was shocking to a lot of people. That these people were colluding and, you know, coming up with a shared narrative about how to deal with certain scandals that broke.</p>
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<p>And we’ve seen it again in this election cycle with the Wiki Leaks thing, I mean there was there was a bit of that.</p>
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<p>But every day on Twitter — and you don’t even have to have an account on Twitter — you can sign up. And the main reason to sign up is so you can make a list. But even if you don’t sign up for Twitter you can just go to these different accounts one by one and look at what they’re saying. It’s convenient when you make a list, because it basically mashes them all together. And that’s one of the first things I did after they kicked me off. I just created a dummy account so that I could create a list of all these jews media jews, so that I could see what they were chattering about, what they were screeching about today. And so basically it’s what they call that, “<em>opposition research</em>”? Sure, it’s very effective for that.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah and you can kind of see how they sort of collude to control the narrative in a way that advance specifically jewish interests. And it doesn’t matter if they’re on the Left, or the Right, you know, so-called Left and Right, you know, jews always operate and collude together to advance specifically jewish interests. And in many cases they’re very blatant and out in the open with it.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah. You can see a difference between the Left and Right jews — the Conservatives and liberals — and how they kind of pose and posture, as opponents. But then on Twitter, you know, they’re part of a team. They’ll argue with each other on Twitter as well.</p>
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<p>But, what I’ve noticed is this, and it was even before Twitter, of course, that I noticed this, but, on Twitter you can see it developing in real time. This cycle that they get into. This positive feedback cycle where one jew will start screeching about something that’s going on, &#8230; Steve Bannon is a good — the “<em>Bannocaust</em>” that I wrote about just recently — was a good example of what was happening just as I got kicked off of Twitter.</p>
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<p>Some jew, I noticed, was saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Steve Bannon, it’s incredible that he’s been appointed to this position of power. He’s a horrible anti-Semite!”</span></h3>
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<p>And then, other jews pick this up and they all start, you know, screeching in unison on Twitter! And this was all the day before it all came out in public stories that they wrote for their jews media corporations, and were actually published in papers and online zines, and so forth. That toned down that the jewish aspect of it for public consumption.</p>
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<p>They, instead of describing Bannon as a horrible anti-Semite, they emphasized and said that he was a:</p>
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<p>But you could see on Twitter, twenty four hours before that broke out in the mainstream media and took it to public attention, how they had colluded on this very jewish attitude about Bannon. And it was all about the jews from their point of view.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. And it always is. And I was following that story, you know, when it first broke. And, as you said, they were, there were literally hundreds of articles about how Bannon was this anti-Semite, and a racist, and a leader of the Alt-Right, etc.</p>
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<p>And I mean, even the ADL had to sort of come out and backtrack on all that and say:</p>
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<p>So I mean, it’s just amazing how they, &#8230; Truly, I mean they are very delusional! These people are just totally delusional.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, it was very much like the “<em>Hagelocaust</em>”, back when Chuck Hagel was nominated for Secretary of Defense. I forget the year, it was couple years ago. Obama nominated him. And he was, you know, a centrist Republican, but kind of anti-war. And he had made statements in the past. One in particular sticks out in my mind that he had said that:</p>
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<p>When he was pushed on some issue about protecting Israel, or something.</p>
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<p>And what happened when he was nominated, the same thing. The jews, basically in private, started making a stink about it and it rose and rose, the crescendo rose until it broke out into the mainstream media as these charges against Hagel. That he’s unfit for the job, he cannot do it!</p>
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<p>Now in the end, Hagel got appointed and passed, but he first had to go and on bended knee, apologize to the jews for ever saying anything negative about them and promised that he was going to be the best Secretary of Defense for Israel, that he could be.</p>
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<p>And that’s what I pointed out at the time was, you know, here are two groups of jews. There were jews for him and jews against him. But the basis for their argument was that he’s “<em>good for the jews</em>”. Both sides had a different opinion about it, but that was the basis, the common ground, that they were arguing on. It was totally jewish! And totally about what’s best for the jews, what’s best for Israel, not what’s best for United States. Even as a abstract idea.</p>
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<p>And I saw the same thing with the “<em>Bannonocaust</em>”. It was a bunch of jews arguing about whether he was good, or bad for the jews.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. And isn’t it amazing how, &#8230; I mean we see this all the time, you know, anytime anyone says anything even slightly critical of jews, or makes simple, basic, factual statements, about jews and their power and influence and their agenda, you know, that’s anti-Semitism to these people! That is paranoia and conspiracy theories.</p>
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<p>And really, they’ve been so effective at preventing people from openly discussing their power and influence, even when jews themselves, openly write about it and openly talk about it.</p>
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<p>I mean, this is something that you’ve been doing for quite a while, just, you know, quoting jews. And as you said, you go on Twitter and you see what they’re talking about. You see how they’re trying to frame issues, and how they’re colluding with other jews to frame things to advance specifically jewish interests.</p>
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<p>And yet, if you notice these things, if you scholarly document them and comment on them, you’re:</p>
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<p>It’s really amazing! I mean, to me, it’s so amazing that they’ve been able to do this for so long and to prevent any, you know, rational inquiry, any rational discussion of the jews and of their power and influence. It really blows my mind! I mean, to me it’s so ridiculous and just childish that we can’t even openly talk about these things.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well first of all, it is a conspiracy. They do conspire for their own interests, as a group. So, it’s kind of a bad joke that they have created this term “<em>conspiracy theory</em>” and associated it with people being insane, for basically, &#8230;.</p>
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<p>What it means, “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”, this is a term, if it wasn’t coined by Karl Popper it was popularized by him in a paper years ago. Karl Popper is a famous jew philosopher. He’s also the source of this “<em>Open Society</em>” thing that George Soros pushes today. But, Karl Popper talked about conspiracy theory and I think — he was speaking in pretty coded language — but basically it means:</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> You know, in contemporary terms.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Conspiracy theory is is the term that jews use and they use it every day. This is another term I see popping up on the jew Twitter, every day, multiple times. Any time they think that the goyim are becoming aware of something. They call that a “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”, right!</p>
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<p>Now, us “<em>goyim</em>” think of the term in more general terms. That it just means any kooky theory, any stupid, crazy, theory that, you know, maybe goes off into the weeds of the details of some obscure, you know, maybe even unimportant thing. That’s what the term means to us.</p>
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<p>But, it means that because the jews have imparted that meaning to it by implying that anyone talking about the jews specifically, but anything that even hints at it, or touches on the jews is a, quote, unquote, “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”..</p>
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<p>The word conspiracy, it’s a legal term, it actually has a legal meaning. But it has a more, you know, &#8230; The legal meaning is that you actually, like two, or more people are actually planning to do something illegal. Right. That’s a legal conspiracy.</p>
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<p>But, the term in common parlance just means doing something untoward, something, you know, negative, something bad. And it’s more loose. It doesn’t have to necessarily be illegal. And, in fact, the jews have so much power that basically what they do is legal! They’re able to do what they do, most of it, anyway, legally.</p>
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<p>And what they focus on today — they’ve got so much power — is making what we do, illegal! So that we can’t even speak about what they’re doing, without it being defined as “<em>hate speech</em>”, and criminalized.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right! Exactly! And I mean, you know, on Twitter, I’m sure you were banned, in part, because you were making factual statements and observations about jews, and their very openly anti-White agenda.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah it was the words, “<em>kikeservative</em>”, “<em>faggot</em>” <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> “<em>nigger</em>”. You know, I used a couple of different slurs that I probably could have got my message across, while avoiding them.</p>
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<p>Although “<em>kikeservative</em>” I think is, I would defend that term, because even though, you know, most people might recoil at it. It is actually very descriptive word of what’s what’s going on. It’s more descriptive than “<em>cuckservative</em>”, which I’m also happy to use. But it’s a little too broad.</p>
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<p>You know, a lot of people use the term “<em>cuckservative</em>” and they really, I don’t think that they appreciate the analogy that’s being implied there. That, you know, the cuckoo bird and parasitism, basically, that we talked about last time. And to call it “<em>kikeservative</em>” to call somebody who is basically serving the jews, a “<em>kikeservative</em>” really puts a fine point on, you know, on the word “<em>cuckservative</em>”. Instead of just calling them a cuck, which means that any nonwhite they might be serving, you know, it’s putting the focus more on the main non-White power that is actually puppeteering most of the other non-Whites. And sharing their playbook with them.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> So, basically it’s a more precise analysis, a more precise definition of other cuckservatives, of these Republicans. And I mean, even, I guess, Democrats to a certain extent, literally selling out their own people to advance jewish interests.</p>
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<p>And, of course, jews are behind all the other minority groups. They always organize them and, you know, fight for civil rights and all this other nonsense. That goes all the way back to the fifty’s and sixty’s they’ve been doing that. And we still see it today with illegal immigration, and transgenderism now, like homosexuality, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> “<em>Black Live Matter</em>” is a direct analogy. If you weren’t alive back during Civil Rights, you can see what’s happening with the Black Lives Matter thing. The kind of role that the jews play is to amplify and broadcast their message. And to put a positive spin on it. To put it out there, in front of people, in a sympathetic way.</p>
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<p>If they don’t like something, like say, the Alt-Right, neo-Nazism or, you know, even just White Identity, they put it out there with a negative spin on it, and with obviously anti-pathetic attitudes, and psycho-pathologizing it, too.</p>
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<p>You mentioned earlier, having to do with this, &#8230; Their tactics of how they deal with criticism. The main way they deal with criticism is to call it “<em>crazy</em>”! They call their enemies “<em>crazy</em>”! And they have specialized in this. I mean, Sigmund Freud is the first and most famous example, the most well known example that pops in the mind, but I’m sure it goes back further than Freud. And it’s certainly since Freud it has become the main tool.</p>
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<p>I mentioned already Karl Popper in the “<em>conspiracy theory</em>” thing, but there’s a long history just in this past century of, for instance, the “<em>Authoritarian Personality</em>” from the Cultural Marxist, the Frankfurt School, Adorno, and company.</p>
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<p>There’s the “<em>Paranoid Style in American Politics</em>” by Hofstetter who was half jew, a mischling. And then there’s the “<em>Conspiracy Theory of Society</em>” which was written by Popper.</p>
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<p>And then, Cass Sunstein, more recently, wrote sort of an updated version of this conspiracy theory paper. Long piece, basically reiterating Popper’s point that, you know, when people come up with these theories about how certain small groups have too much control, and run the media, and run finances, you know, that’s what they mean when they say, “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”. And that is bad for the jews.</p>
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<p>He doesn’t put it — neither one of them, Popper, or Sunstein — put it that plainly, but that’s what they’re talking about. And it really came to a point, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> That sort of what it amounts to, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> At the end of Trump’s campaign.</p>
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<p>When he had that infamous commercial. The jews really, drove them nuts! That last commercial he came out with, where he talks about the globalist elite and the globalist media and finance. And then put up at least three jews in the video. That’s why they were flipping out, because “<em>that’s a conspiracy theory!</em>” And you’re trafficking in anti-semitic tropes and conspiracy theories. It’s funny, they expose themselves, basically.</p>
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<p>When somebody like Trump, who love the jews, or is a willing servant of the jews, a kikeservative in the true sense of the word. When they suspect that he is actually a secret anti-semite, that’s where it does come across that they are crazy! That they themselves are paranoid and crazy. And what they’re doing is projecting it on to us, when they call us crazy!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> It’s sick! It’s really sick!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> It is! And I mean, it’s so bad where now, and I mean, I guess this is been going on for a long time. I mean, literally they view any form of White racial consciousness as a delusional conspiracy. I don’t want to say “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”, but it’s “<em>delusional, it’s irrational, it’s illegitimate</em>”..</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And yet they’d champion that, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> The jews are, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right! But they’d champion that in everyone else, especially themselves, right? I mean, jews are very ethnocentric and very aware of their jewish identity, and are very proud of it. Which, I mean, is fine by me, but when they turn around and say anybody who’s White who does the same thing is crazy, and is hateful, and is a bigot. I mean, again, it’s just completely ridiculous!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[19:53]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, it’s not ridiculous! It’s actually an attack. And that’s how it should be interpreted, as an offensive against Whites.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s kind of the main point that I’ve been harping on for years now, but especially in this past year. The jew war on Whites!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so many people kind of water it down, or see it in less extreme terms. But it isn’t really extreme, it’s just the honest, it’s the most honest way to describe what’s going on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The jews are at war with Whites! Are warring upon Whites! Are aggressing against Whites! Are hostile to Whites! Are landing all of these blows against Whites!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Whites are unwilling, unable, to respond!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The ones that do respond, respond violently. You know, a trickle of them. And then, what happens? You know, a lot of White people get up and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh that’s horrible! Violence isn’t the answer!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And something that, it really bugs me because the, &#8230; And I see it changing, so there’s hope that this is shifting now. Attitudes in the last two years, and partly because of Trump, and partly it was happening anyway, there is been a surge in “<em>White consciousness</em>”. Of White people waking up to the reality, as Richard Spencer puts it, that race is real, and race matters!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, I’ve been saying that stuff for years, but now a lot of people are starting to realize that that’s true! And that is the first step, is just having that basic, &#8230; When you say, you know, “<em>racial consciousness</em>”, there’s, I think of it, there’s two, they’re not separate, but they’re like different ends of the spectrum, &#8230; The first and most basic consciousness is just knowing that race is real, knowing that you have a race, a group, a larger group that you belong to. And there’s nothing you can really do about it, you’re part of that group, you’re born into it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And feeling, you know, aware of that, on a day to day basis.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, when you see people on television and they’re talking about something your first thought is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well what is that person? Are they part of my group, or are they not part of my group?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And jews – this is important – because, maybe we’ll get into this a bit later too, the way that jews posture and pretend to be White. And they feed us poison that way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s how you can stop that from happening is by paying attention to who is saying what. And recognizing that this person I think I can trust them, they look like a member of my own group. And, you know what they’re saying makes sense to me. Versus this Krauthammer asshole! You know, I don’t like what he’s saying and he’s telling us, talking about going to war in the Middle East., you know, that doesn’t make any sense to me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And when you start to understand who the jews are, and what’s been going on, and see it as a war, then you understand. Well, yeah, these jews are they are not us! And they see us as their main enemy!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. They’re not us, and they openly say this and they’re openly hostile to our interests. And this is been made clear almost every single day! I mean, it’s very clear if you’re just paying attention.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’m glad you brought that up, this jewish war on Whites, this jewish war on Western civilization, and this White genocide agenda. That is what the jews promote, is White genocide!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> White genocide agenda.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> And yeah, I mean, that is ultimately what it’s all about.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I wanted to ask you, if you could maybe just summarize the “<em>jewish problem</em>” in a nutshell. And I mean, I guess that would probably be your answer <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span>. If it’s not really a “<em>jewish problem</em>”, it is a “<em>jewish war</em>” on White people! And needs to be understood, in those explicit terms. Because that is what it is!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes, the “<em>jewish problem</em>” from a White point of view, is the problem that jews cause for Whites. And in the past it didn’t seem like it was so serious. It was like discomfort. It was that the jews cause problems. Maybe they cause some wars.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well today, it’s pretty obvious that it’s an existential threat! That they are not going to be happy until Whites don’t exist anymore. They changed their attitudes round about the middle of last century, with the rise of the National Socialist regime. And they were fully exposed and that scared the shit out of them! And they changed tactics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And now the agenda is to get rid of us, entirely.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, you know, whereas before they were happy to just feed on us and they really maybe only had the power to feed on us in the past. But now, they’re they’ve actually got the upper hand with the media control that they have, the financial control they have. And all of these kikeservatives willing to do their bidding for them. That think they’re on the winning team.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[24:49]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We’re on our backs and they’ve got their feet on our throats and they don’t, &#8230; Unlike Whites who foolishly feel sympathy for defeated enemies and let them up and help them out, jews don’t do that. Jews like to brag about how they’ve exterminated all of the people that they’ve ever come up against in their history.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, they describe themselves as victims of these people. That’s how they see themselves, and that’s how they justify offing this long list of civilizations that they’ve parasitized in the past.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But we are just the most recent one to them and they won’t think twice about just offing us! It doesn’t bother them in the slightest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, I think, if you if you look back, you know, the past hundred years, or so, jews, especially organized jewish community, and groups like the ADL, for example, the World jewish Congress, they are driven fundamentally by a desire to prevent any sort of White revolution, any sort of national socialist, you know, takeover of society. They’re trying to prevent what happened in Germany from happening anywhere else. And obviously they’ve been very effective all over the Western world.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think, I mean, I think that is really what drives them because, you know, the jews always had a lot of power and influence in Western society, you know, going back, I mean, really all throughout time. But now, as you said, they’re at a point where they literally control our societies in virtually every respect.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Hitler’s Germany was a solution to that problem. I mean, they openly talked about these things. They were articulating them publicly. Your average German probably knew about these issues, and could explain it. And that’s what they fear!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes. Yeah, it was the first time that European man really, on a large scale, was aware of the jews, of the true nature of the jews. Saw them for what they are, and organized at a governmental scale against them! In self defense against the jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And ultimately it failed, because not enough other people outside of Germany were able to accept what the Germans had come to accept themselves, and were trying to make other people understand.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As you mention, the ADL and other jewish organizations, &#8230; The jews organize compulsively, and they communicate. They have meetings, you know, every day of the year! There is some jewish organization meeting, conspiring, to increase their control, increase their power. And not only in a positive way for themselves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What a big part of what they do, especially organizations like the SPLC, the ADL, is they focus on suppressing our communication. This thing that Twitter did, not just, you know, I wasn’t the only one deleted, there were a whole bunch of people and accounts shut down. And there were many before that, but there was a big spate of them right after the election.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That was, no doubt, due to the puppeteering of the ADL. The ADL had several months earlier, insinuated themselves into the process of defining what should and shouldn’t be allowed and they finally, you know, dropped the hammer on that day, most of that week, when a bunch of people were kicked off.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, you know, that’s the purpose of that particular organization is to sniff out anyone who is talking, any White people who are talking amongst themselves, and shut it down!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Yeah, exactly! And I’ve been following the Daily Stormer, they’ve been, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Andrew]</strong></span> Anglin has been covering this issue pretty well. And I mean, he’s been stripped from, what I understand, he’s pretty much banned as a person from even using Twitter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, this is out in the open. There are clearly organizing to shut it down, as you said.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you think, I mean, what are your thoughts, like long term? Do you think that this is something that, I mean, are they going to be able to shut everyone down, you know what I mean? There’s a lot of people using Twitter and getting this message out. I mean, how far are they going to take this, do you think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> It will go farther. It’s been called, “<em>the shuttening</em>” this, not just Twitter, but the general idea. I kind of like the term, “<em>the shuttening</em>”, because it refers to the jew tendency to shut it down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Facebook has always been like this. That’s why I didn’t, that is why I never bothered to even sign up for Facebook, because I knew that, Facebook doesn’t tolerate, doesn’t even, you know, maybe it makes some gestures about tolerating free speech and all that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But Twitter made sort of a name for itself, early on, by being the free speech platform and that’s why I thought – it was still a risk – to invest any time in posting anything there. But, after the first few months when I saw that they weren’t banning people Left and Right, I kind of, you know, got comfortable there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what we see is that, you know, that stuff can change. And that’s exactly what the jews agitate for and organizing and pressure people politically, behind the scenes, to shut these things down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s going to get worse! What, the next step, I mean, besides other social media stuff like Gab that’s cropping up, you know, they’ll eventually come under the gun of the ADL and other jewish organizations. And they’ll probably cave as well, if they aren’t already a jewish organization, you know, anyway. Basically providing the Jews with information on all the people using their service.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All of these services will eventually get shut down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the next step beyond that, that I can foresee happening too, is that they’ll just remove the DNS entries. They may not be able to, it’s not cost effective for them to try and go to every ISP and get sites like mine, or yours removed. They have done that in the past, but it’s expensive, and it’s time consuming. And there are certain services that won’t delete the stuff. They won’t give in to the threats. So, the way they’ll they’ll deal with that is just by convincing the government, or whoever is controlling that the DNS system, to delist those sites, so they won’t be convenient to get to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, you’ll have people sharing around the names and IP addresses of certain favorite sites and giving the technical details:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Here’s how you get there.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it will drop dramatically reduce the ease of which people can get to our ideas. That won’t be a totally a bad thing because, you know, the harder they try to shut us down, the more obvious they make it, the more they expose themselves, expose their power, and expose how illegitimate their power is. That they pretend to be victims and they’re going around, there’s that famous saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That is an eye-opening thing, when people who have been hearing about how criticism of jews is just crazy, for all their lives., actually, see jews behaving like wild animals, savaging people who are just mild mannered, and saying, you know, polite things, like Richard Spencer, they have something <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[that]</strong></span> snaps in their mind and they realize:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Hey, wait a minute! Maybe the people who have been saying these things aren’t crazy?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I know it happened for me, years ago. And over the last two years I’ve seen more and more testimonies from people in interviews, or just chatting online, where these are people who self professed a year ago:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I was a liberal, a shitlib.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or whatever:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I was just a normie!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in the course of being exposed basically to jewish shenanigans, they realize:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This isn’t a joke! This is real! The jews really are in power. And they really are nasty!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Exactly! Yeah. Well, that’s really the big story of this past election season. Is just how clear this is all becoming. And, I mean, we’re seeing the media become discredited on a mass scale, which is huge. I mean, that to me has been the number one weapon that the jews have used to wage war against us. It’s largely been psychological.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, they literally brainwash us with false history and pseudo science. You mentioned Freud and all these other con artists. And I mean, that’s really to me how they’ve been so successful, is controlling the narrative and weaponizing history and weaponizing our political discourse.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this is all coming out in the open now. And it’s all being made clear. You mentioned the Trump campaign video where he doesn’t even mention the word “<em>jew</em>”! In the speech he made down in West Palm Beach Florida, where he was railing against, you know, the global interests, &#8230; Again, you know, he could have named the jew and it would have been a lot more accurate. But he didn’t even have to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the very next day, or even that night, you know, all these jews on Twitter, the ADL, they’re condemning this speech as, you know, trafficking in, quote, unquote, “<em>anti-Semitic conspiracy theories</em>” and all this other nonsense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I mean, these people are outing themselves! And to me, I don’t know how people can notice this. I mean, people are obviously noticing it, but it’s just they just can’t help themselves! I mean, these jews are just so delusional. They just cannot help themselves!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[34:38]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah, to a certain extent they can’t help themselves. It’s their nature to screech when they sense that they are being attacked. And they are hyper sensitive!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s why it’s hard for me to accept that jews are just innocently going along with somebody else’s agenda, that this isn’t a jewish agenda that’s killing Whites as a race. It’s impossible to believe, because the jews are so hyper sensitive to race and to what is good for survival of a group and what is bad. And they make sure that for their own group they have policies that preserve their group and that they push the opposite for us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you mention the narrative. And the jews, &#8230; I’ve pointed out before, the jews are sort of born storytellers, you know, from the Bible, which I think I mentioned in, “<em>The Great Jewish Mask</em>”. That book from about a hundred years ago. The jews are have been storytellers, their whole history. To the point where, the very history that they tell is a big lie, all the way back!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And today’s Hollywood. And White people in America, and globally too, I think, you know, they kind of understand this. They don’t like Hollywood. I mean, they may go to those movies and they may be thrilled by those things, but they also are kind of put off by it. It’s sort of like chewing on a poisoned Twinkie! It’s like, it tastes good, but it also, you feel sick to your stomach afterwards!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s the kind of feeling that White people get when they look at the jewish media.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Trump didn’t create that distrust, he just sort of exposed it. And he tapped into it. He saw, he’s very perceptive in sensing what it is that, &#8230; Well, first of all, that White people weren’t being pandered to,  weren’t being served by previous candidates. And that’s the path, basically, that was the key to his electoral strategy, and the key to his victory ultimately was to tap into that by talking about White issues. What the Leftists call “<em>dog whistling</em>”. And it just means speaking in code. When politicians speak in code to get White votes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’ve made the point before, that if a politician has to speak in code, that’s kind of a disadvantage, you know, because Trump is a good example. He spoke explicitly to blacks about what he was going to do for blacks! And he said, you know, I’m going to basically poor lots of money and lots of attention on the inner city, you know, talking directly to blacks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And similarly to Hispanics, and Latinos, and to jews! He spoke explicitly about how well he was going to serve them and their interests!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he did not speak, at all, during the campaign, he never said the word, “<em>White</em>” that I’m aware of and never in a positive context like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I love White people! I’m a White person and I’m going to make sure that White people are well served by my administration.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But he did speak about jobs. I think in the past, it was called, “<em>Nixon’s Southern Strategy</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This time around they’re going to start to call it, I think, “<em>Trump’s Rustbelt Strategy</em>”, because he did, basically the same thing. He talked to Whites, indirectly, but still in a language that they understood. That:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Hey this guy gets it. He’s going to do things and have policies that address our concerns. This country is changing. We don’t like the new normal.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But my point is, my overall point is that, I think most White people just they don’t see the jews, they don’t understand the jews as a threat. They think that’s crazy! They, I mean, they’ve heard people say it, but they think that is discredited idea, it’s a conspiracy theory, it’s not true! And it’s largely, because that’s what the jews say! The jews have control over the media, they pump out that message twenty four seven, that it’s crazy to think anything bad about the jews:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Only stupid people do that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they present alternatives. They:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Here, blame these people instead! Blame White people! It’s really White privilege! It’s not that the jews are too privileged. It’s White privilege!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, it’s a mix of techniques that they use. But it’s also easy to understand, once the scales fall from your eyes and you stop thinking of the jews as these innocent, this innocent powerless minority, and start to see them for what they really are.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then it all makes sense! Things that in the past you might have thought that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s odd, like the poison Twinky thing, but I don’t really understand why? Why would Hollywood serve up poisoned Twinkies?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Why do they do that?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, once you realize Hollywood is controlled by jews, it was created by jews, and they manipulate your thoughts. They actually define what is good and what is bad, just as they have ever since the Bible, it all make sense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:53]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right! You know and isn’t it just so sad that Trump, you know how many times had it has he been called a racist and a bigot? And, you know, he’s promoting hatred and all this other nonsense. And yet as you said, he never, and to my knowledge as well, he never once, you know, said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“I’m White.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“I’m championing White interests!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He never once explicitly said that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Although, I agree, I think he did use some, you know, coded language that, you know, people kind of read between the lines. And yet he’s openly saying how he’s going to do this for the black community. He’s going to help the Mexicans. He’s going to help the immigrants. I mean, it’s just so sad!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is a country founded and built by White people! And we can’t even talk about that! We can’t even talk about White interests. Thanks to the jews! Thanks to the jews’ control of the narrative!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah. Well, they’re the ones who created this environment and, as I like to say, “<em>anti-racism</em>” is a jew construct! It serves their interests, and they were the ones who promoted the idea that race is just a “<em>social construct</em>”, and racists are the worst people on the planet! You know, blame the “<em>racists</em>” for all the problems!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, anyway, “<em>racist</em>” is really just a euphemism for “<em>Whites</em>” anyway. When you hear somebody call somebody a racist, the best way to understand that, is to call him a White person!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s similar during this election, the jews in the jews media were using the word, the term, “<em>Trump supporter</em>”, in that way. “<em>Trump supporter</em>” and with venom, you know, means White person!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> That’s why they hated Trump! And that’s why they hated Trump supporters, because they were White! Not, you know, they never talked about black, or non-White supporters of Trump, except maybe in terms of racial treason, you know, that they were betraying their own kind by siding with Trump and the evil racists!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, going back to, you know, we are talking about Hitler and National Socialist Germany, and how the jews just absolutely fear that sort of movement coming to power ever again. They viewed these rallies, with thousands of White people chanting and cheering for Donald Trump. This is what they saw! They saw National Socialism all over again!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Although they made a video, that was really good, early on, and intended it to discredit Trump by comparing, side by side, snippets of Trump speeches and then snippets of Hitler speeches. And they went back and forth between the two, drawing these parallels. This was maybe in January of last year, earlier this year. And it flopped!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because, what happened, the reaction was, for most of these Trump supporters, was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Hey! I agree with what Trump is saying. And I didn’t know that Hitler said these things too! Maybe this guy Hitler isn’t such bad guy?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[John laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> They yanked that commercial right away! And it’s true that there are parallels! It’s because you cannot oppose the jewish agenda, in any way, without upsetting the jews!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And whether you recognize it is a jewish agenda, or not, whether you call it a jewish agenda and are conscious of it, or not, the jews know it’s a jewish agenda! And that’s why they go berserk!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, I want to talk about Trump in the Alt-Right, and sort of what’s happened really over the course of the past year.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>To start off, I mean, do you think, &#8230; Trump has to be, he has to be aware of the Alt-Right? I mean, he obviously is, he gets asked about it all the time. But I mean, do you think that he’s following what’s going on? Do you think he’s wise to some of these issues at all?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> In the sense that any politician is, I think, it was Joe Sobran said many years ago, that in order to even survive at the highest levels of government and media in this country, you have to be aware of the jews! Because you have to have some sense of what you’re allowed to say and what you’re not allowed to say.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, you know, every couple of months there is some celebrity, or another, I can’t remember his name now. Gary Oldman in Hollywood, who said something in a Playboy interview about how rotten the world is getting to be. And then he switched right immediately to how the jews control Hollywood and <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> making sort of the indirect connection, that the world is so terrible, because these jews are putting out a terrible vision of the world! And he got slapped down right away!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s basically how the jews make sure that everybody knows who controls, not just Hollywood, of course, and if you want to work in the media you’ve got to make sure you don’t ever say anything like that about jews. You don’t talk about jewish power.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But also in the government. Can’t think of a, &#8230; Well the “<em>Hagelocaust</em>”, and the “<em>Bannonocaust</em>”, are good examples of them doing something similar in government, where they actually trumpet the fact that there are jews there.:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We’re jews! And we’re upset about, ..! We’re offended by this, and this guy is disqualified! Because jews!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, they make it so explicit! It’s like it’s as if they have veto power! An unwritten line in the Constitution that says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The jews have actually the first veto over any nominee!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:27]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> They have effectively have though! They’ve basically been able to get away with whatever they want, for so long!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, in the end Hagel and Bannon are examples of where they screech very loudly and they didn’t get what they want in the end. But then again the guy that they were screeching about, they were totally exaggerating. You know, they were making it out like this was the next Hitler. Trump is another good example of this. Where, you know, he’s not.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>None of these guys are willing to stand up against the jews. Now maybe the jews suspect that they would be, if other people also stood up at the same time. And in a way it’s a sort of shit test. Besides, you know, the “<em>Saul Alinsky</em>” effect of, you know, focusing on one enemy at a time and vaporizing them. And letting that be a lesson to everybody else.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s a shit test! It’s to basically flush out any resistance:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Any other takers? Anybody else want some of this?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s the kind of attitude that, I don’t know if they have it consciously, but that’s what’s the challenge to everybody else around when they see somebody being savaged in public.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another one was that I wrote about was Tom Perkins, that billionaire. Who couple years ago made some comment about the one percent that the Occupy Wall Street rhetoric against the one percent. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[It]</strong></span> reminded him of the jews and Kristallnacht. And how the one percent might be genocided!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And a bunch of jews made it clear to him, that being rich is not anything to be worried about. You know, it’s really, you know, that’s a special jewish term of warfare, as you mentioned “<em>weaponized terms</em>”. You know, “<em>Kristallnacht</em>” is one of those proprietary jewish weaponized terms that only jews are allowed to use. And only for the purposes of advancing jewish interests.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, Tom Perkins is only a mere billionaire! And so, he was shut down right away.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, and we see this when, you know, people invoke the Holocaust, you know, for the wrong reasons and the jews get all upset and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“No you can’t do that! It’s only for us!”</h3>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> You know, I mean, there’s other examples as well. But again, I mean, it’s just their control, their power, their influence is largely, &#8230; And the way they’re able to frame things, the way they’re able to control the narrative, control the discourse. And I think that is, you know, sort of breaking down and being eroded slowly. And it’s been spent taking place over time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, I think this election and to what Trump has done, has really been a huge boost to that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you had sent me an e-mail with some links here and I want to go over one of them, in particular. The Real Clear Politics, where Kellyanne Conway, and I think it was Clinton’s campaign manager. They were having like a discussion after the election.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the Clinton campaign was saying, and they were saying this all throughout the campaign, that Trump is, you know, “<em>mainstreaming</em>”, quote, unquote, “<em>hatred</em>”! And we saw all sorts of jewish journalists talking about how Trump was, “<em>mainstreaming anti-Semitism</em>”..</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s a quite revealing article published by Yair Rosenberg, who is one of these jews on Twitter that was going nuts when they had the “<em>echo meme</em>” going on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<p style="color: black;"><strong>John Friend:</strong> And he was openly, you know, he had the (((brackets))) around his name and whatnot. And he wrote this article a couple months ago titled, I can’t remember the exact title, but is basically, “<em>A vote for Trump is a vote for mainstreaming anti-Semitism!</em>”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And his argument was that the Alt-Right has been so energizing, has gained so much traction, because of Trump and, because of the Trump campaign and what he’s done and how he’s criticizing the media. And how he’s criticizing the establishment and it’s stance on immigration. And political correctness and so many other important issues. And I think all of that is true, although I don’t know if Trump himself was attempting to do that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> I think it was really the Alt-Right, who sort of seized the moment, seized the opportunity. Guys like, to his credit, Andrew Anglin, and the guys at “<em>The Right Stuff dot business</em>”. You know, other people on Twitter and whatnot. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[They]</strong></span> really just seized this opportunity and seized the moment, to get their voices out there, to get their message out there. And I think it’s been very effective!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, I mean, that’s what this whole argument was about! Was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Look, the Trump campaign is giving a platform to the Alt-Right. It’s giving a platform to, quote, unquote, ‘White supremacists’!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that is true to a certain extent, although I don’t think that is the goal of the Trump campaign, at least not obviously, not explicitly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[50:14]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> No. I think Trump, and I’ve said this before, it was my earlier assessment of him and it still holds. I think he just wanted to be president. He had that ambition for decades and he finally fulfilled it. And he basically promised to himself, I think mainly, that it would be no holds barred. That he would do whatever he needed to do to get it done.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there’s a story about that with Jared Kushner, and, you know, the Electoral College, and basically what I call the “<em>Rust Belt Strategy</em>”. Where, you know, in order to become President, he needed to say these things to White people, to appeal to White people and get their votes, and get the Electoral College votes that he would need to win. To overcome the non-White votes in other States.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Other people talked about that, but there hasn’t been much emphasis put on the fact that it was Jared Kushner that actually kind of organized that effort, or at least lead it, and headed it up. That was in that Forbes interview, or the Forbes article about him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Now, a question for you. So, I mean, obviously it was a very successful campaign strategy to play on these issues. But do you think that Trump was genuine? Because, to me he seems very genuine about all of these issues!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> He genuinely wants to be President, to the point where he will put up with all the shit! He’s, as he said many times at his rallies:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You know, I didn’t have to do this! I could have lived a comfortable life!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It really was a grueling thing! You know, I watched, night after night of him doing these rallies, and I just thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“God! He’s much older than I am!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> He’s seventy, I think he seventy years old!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> He’s a dynamo! I mean, you’ve got to give him credit for just being an incredible work horse!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he put up with all that stuff. I think he went into it knowing that it was going to be bad, but I don’t think he appreciated how bad it was going to be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He also basically called out the media early on, and especially toward the end, as the enemy and really played on that. Although that was part of his appealing to White people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What I wanted to say, was, that I’ve kind of left unsaid here all along, is that Whites are desperate for a leader to say positive things! To give them a positive vision for the future! To the point where even the kind of lukewarm stuff that Trump served up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, the jews painted it as the next holocaust, but it was really, it’s stuff that in Reagan times, in the 80’s, this was just what the norm was!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You have a country. You have borders. You have laws against people coming in your country illegally. And you have elected officials that are at least ostensibly supposed to be out for the best interests of that country, and it’s citizens.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That was the understanding in the 80’s. And before that, it was even better.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, National Socialist Germany, it was a racial understanding of nationhood.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But even in the 80’s we still had the tatters of a countryhood and a civic nationalism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, Trump is just, you know, basically resetting by about twenty years, the attitude about nationalism. And that is too much for the jews! But, White people have this instinct and this desire to have somebody speaking for them and that’s why they gravitated to Trump, that’s why they were attracted and put signs in the yards and went to all his rallies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s why it was so easy to see that Trump could win if he was going to continue to speak to Whites the way he was. And not give in to the jews media’s pressure to geld himself, to reign himself in, to stop saying these politically incorrect things, that he would win! And he did win!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And my fear, my greatest fear has always been, not whether Trump would win, or not, it’s been, you know what is he going to do once he’s in?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think the most likely thing – it’s kind of a black pill, or negative thing – but I think he’s going to go along with the shuttening that I was talking about earlier. I think he’s going to be, maybe even critical to, &#8230; He’ll be the proud signer of Bills illegalizing in hate speech, illegalizing criticism of jews and Israel. Because that’s kind of who he is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, he’s prided himself, and I think a lot of the reason he was able to take all this withering criticism, that he’s a horrible anti-Semite, a racist, a bigot, is he knows in his heart that he isn’t! At least that’s how he sees himself, that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“No! I don’t judge people on the color of their skin. I don’t do these things!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, you know, it rolls off his back when they say these things about him, because in his own mind, he’s comfortable with who he is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:09]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Yeah! Gosh! I really hope Trump, doesn’t go along with that whole agenda! I mean, it would be totally contrary to, you know, pretty much everything he said, especially as it relates to political correctness.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I mean, who knows? We’re just going to have to wait and see. I think that’s the main thing, is we really, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> I think we’ve seen already! He’s a lifelong kikeservative! He’s, for his whole life, and he brags about this, you know. He’s basically in bed with the jews! His family is intermarried with them, and, you know, there’s not much he can do about that at this point, except go along with them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, when they come to him at some point in his first term and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We’ve got to have this legislation against hate speech. It’s crazy out there for jews. And don’t you care about the jews?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s part of why the jews screech so much about things like Bannon, about how horrible an anti-Semite Trump is, in order to influence him to do the opposite. To prove that he’s not a racist! To prove that he’s not an anti-semite! And so that, he will do things, like sign legislation that favors them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, &#8230; That would not be good! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> I guess we’ll have to wait and see what happens. But I mean, like, for example, with immigration. I mean, do you think he genuinely means everything he said?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, that’s that is the thing! I think, to me he, I mean, you know, I’ve sort of explained this in previous podcast and what not, but I mean, &#8230; I think that everything that he said, all of his campaign promises all of the main issues that he ran on, I think that he really does mean these things, and he really does feel this way about immigration, for example. About trade. About, you know, political correctness run amuck, and all this other stuff. And he was basically, to me, it almost seems like he was surprised at how far he got, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, I don’t think he went into this thinking that he would be this successful. And I think at the very beginning when he announced that he was running and he gained all this traction and gained all this popularity. To me, it was almost as if he wasn’t expecting that, he wasn’t prepared for it.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> No! I don’t agree with that, I think that he was!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think he knew it would be a long slog. And he went into it just confident in his own ability to do it. And his willingness, basically like I said, to pull no punches and to do whatever he needed to do to get the job done.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that mainly, if he had any doubt about it, it was only, because that’s basically the effect of the media. The media was constantly saying, right up until the end, how he was losing in the polls, how, you know, it was like every week this:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“He just did this! And that’s a deadly gaffe! He can’t be president, now!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they did that for a year and a half! And every day they were constantly telling people in all the polls, &#8230; You know, they totally discredited themselves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, of course, right after the election happens, there was a little brief interlude of shock and silence. And then they immediately started going back to the polls.:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The polls say this! The polls say that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, you know, it’s the same lying media quoting the same skewed polls.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That is also something even Hitler noticed, and wrote about in Mein Kampf. You know, how you can argue with a jew one day and just totally squash him, and then the next day he come back and the jew’s making the same arguments again, as if it never happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Well, you know, you had mentioned this about Trump. That the amazing thing is that really everything that he’s saying is, I mean, it’s really not even that controversial at all, right? I mean, he’s basically making just common sense arguments when it comes immigration, when it comes to trade. But our society has gone so far downhill that these things are very radical all of of sudden, especially to the elites running our society.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> When really nothing he’s saying is that, is really that revolutionary, or that radical, even at all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, it’s radical in, &#8230; The main sense it’s radical is that he’s talking in terms that White people like. And even the jews media basically puts it that way:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You know, the KKK endorses him! KKK loves what Trump just said!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or, you know:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The Nazis loved, ….”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s their measurements of whether something is good, or bad, is if racially conscious White people like what they’re hearing from Trump, that’s bad! I mean, it goes back to basically to what I think is the core moral understanding of this current jew run regime.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[60:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s an anti-White, pro-jew regime, first of all, at heart! And the basic morality of it is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Whites are bad! Whites are evil! And non-Whites, with jews being the first and foremost of the non-Whites, are good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s the sort of skeleton key by which you understand everything else that is happening.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, when Trump ran on, you know, right from the get go, talking about immigration in a negative way, that was a no-no! That’s, you know, been banished! They thought they had basically done away with that! It was to the point, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The big surprise at this election, because Trump won the Electoral College the way he did by going after White voters in the middle of the country. It surprised them, because they thought they had basically sewn that up. They had made that illegal to talk about, if not technically illegal, they had made it politically incorrect, you know, “<em>semitically incorrect</em>” really, to even discuss anything that White voters wanted to hear.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And polling was used in the years between the elections to basically downplay any concern about immigration, or jobs, or anything like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they tried to do that through the election and basically, I think, Whites were just too fed up. They liked what they were hearing from Trump and so they voted for Trump, and now he’s in.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But there are some contradictions in what Trump says. I mean, listen to what he says about war, about ISIS and war. He’s against Iraq. He basically says things to different groups of people that can be heard in whatever way you want, that you like. And war is a good example of this where, you know, he was famously against the Iraq war and part of the way he defeated Jeb Bush during the primaries was by pointing out that the Iraq war was a disaster, and Jeb’s brother was responsible for that disaster.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, that’s one thing there is, of course, Trump didn’t mention the jews, who had basically organized and pushed for that war, and are the real people who are responsible for that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, you know, he also then makes these saber rattling comments about ISIS!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We’re going to destroy ISIS! And we’re going to build the biggest military! We’ve got to be a rich country!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He was just saying today:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We’re got to be a rich country again, because we’ve got to basically build up our military and pay for all these veterans!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s kind of at odds with, I guess it goes, it echoes Reagan again. You know, that’s the idea that you’ve got to be strong and warlike, ready to do war in order to prevent war.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that’s poppycock! It’s basically, you know, the history of war at least amongst Europeans, for the last two, three hundred years, what you could see as one giant European civil war, fighting amongst ourselves, has been at the behest of jews! And certainly profited by the jews, and the White race has lost!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I have said before that the White race lost World War Two and the jews won. But it’s bigger than World War Two. It’s every war before that, at least back to the French Revolution and probably beyond. And every war since World War Two has been for jewish, globalist, corporatist, interests, if not directly for Israel, and attacking Israel’s neighbors.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. I totally agree with you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> In that respect <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[garbled]</strong></span>&#8230; For Trump. And he’s put now this Mad Dog Mattis and Pompeo …?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Oh yeah. I know who you are talking about. The guy, that’s the guy that’s going to be running the CIA? It’s like Pompeo, or something like that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah. Now these guys are “<em>tough guys</em>”, you know, they’re, &#8230; And oh, it’s Flynn, is the other one, that he’s going to make part of his administration, in some capacity.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, you know, the problem is that they’re strident. They think Muslims are the problem, and Muslims are a problem. But they wouldn’t be a problem if you kept them out of our country. And we don’t need to go and put boots on the ground all around the world to fight Muslims! The only reason we do that stuff is, because jews run our government. Jews are the targeting system for this highly capable, highly technical, highly expensive, military that the US has.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>White Americans often slip into this:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Our military, our government!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Way of speaking, of thinking about things. And it isn’t really true. It’s not ours! I mean, it’s us filling the ranks, it’s White people in the military giving their lives, doing the dirty work. But it’s really jews in the Pentagon and at the highest levels of government advising Presidents on these wars and instigating these wars.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[65:07]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. Advising them, formulating the policy, crafting the narrative. All explicitly to advance jewish interests and to advance Zionist interests in the Middle East! There’s no doubt about that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well I agree with you. I mean pretty much everything you just said I totally agree with.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean with Trump, I want to believe that he’s going to be this great President. And do all these great things and really get us back on the Right track. But I understand your concerns. I hope you’re wrong about the whole, you know, free speech thing I mean. Oh my gosh! I would that would just be devastating!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> I would really like to be pleasantly surprised. That’s why I’m kind of pessimistic about it. But I’m also, you know, there’s precedent for this. This is is not the uncharted territory that everybody seems to like to think it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Ronald Reagan is a pretty good precedent for what Trump has done and what Trump and what we can expect from Trump. This is something that White politicians, this dog whistling thing, is something that they’ve been doing for decades.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Ever since World War Two when White leaders basically abandon the field and stopped thinking and talking in terms of race, at least explicitly, they have realized that they can win White votes by just sort of talking code to Whites. Saying what Whites want to hear and that Whites are pretty desperate for because we have nobody since, maybe McGovern. And even George McGovern wasn’t, &#8230; Was it McGovern? I can’t recall it. But back in the sixty’s, you know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> George Wallace?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Right. And George Wallace wasn’t even sincere about it. He was just doing it. He was willing to say it out loud. Whereas other politicians around him weren’t even willing to say it out loud. But Wallace, afterwards – I forget where I read about this – basically admitted he wasn’t sincere.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I know Trump isn’t sincere. He’s not a sincere racist. He doesn’t think in racial terms. He just thinks in “<em>anti-racist</em>” term. So I don’t have much optimism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, what do you think about the Alt-Right and sort of what’s been happening on that front? I mean to me, ultimately until we’re talking about the jews and recognizing them as a racial enemy, until we’re thinking in racial terms, we’re really never going to truly solve any of these problems.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think the Alt-Right has been effective in at least getting that message out, and getting more people on board with these ideas.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think clearly that’s where the change is going to come. It’s not going to come from Trump, it’s going to come from people like us who are willing to talk about these things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah it’s bigger than the Alt-Right basically. The jews media before they were attacking the Alt-Right, they attacked White people generally. And I made the point early in Trump’s campaign that basically their rhetoric, their anti-White rhetoric would have been the same even if Jeb Bush had won the nomination and was the candidate for the Republicans.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’ve been doing it for at least the 2008, 2012 cycles. Jews writing editorials about how the Republican Party is the “<em>White party</em>”, and they should be ashamed of that. And they should do something to reach out to minorities. They’ve been doing it for a long time now. So that’s nothing new.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What’s new is the Alt-Right. And this basically self identification. It’s a label basically for this rising awareness that, &#8230;.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I made the analogy when I was talking to Kyle Hunt about this that it reminded me of the Tea Party. It’s basically the Tea Party 2.0. But it is an improved version. It’s a more aware version.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I saw the Tea Party when it was happening, when it rose up in 2008, 2009 in the wake of the election of Obama, as a step towards racial consciousness. Although it was still full of all of these people that were saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh no! I’m not a racist! Look at this black guy that I respect and want to hear speak. I’m just for constitutionalism and low taxes.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it was a rebellion of sorts. And it was triggered by the election of Obama. And throughout the last eight years it’s sort of been co-opted and defanged, and the energy has dissipated.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The Alt-Right was sort of a return. And this time with a more explicit understanding that the problem, the conflict is racial! And that at the heart of it are the jews!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the people that see that most clearly are even beyond Alt-Right. But, the people who self identify as Alt-Right at the best part of it, at least get that it’s race. And you can’t avoid the jewish question, the jewish problem. Beyond that is, you know, National Socialism and a true understanding that’s beyond Alt-Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[70:11]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then they have this Alt-Light phenomenon the other end of the spectrum, of people who are just ordinary White people who are basically realizing something’s wrong here:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This Trayvon Martin stuff, this Mike brown stuff, Black Lives Matter. Muslims blowing themselves up every now and then, killing lots of Europeans, or Americans. Something’s wrong! And oh, by the way, you know, all our jobs are gone. Our country, while is being hollowed out, none of our government officials seem to care about us! They care more about protecting immigrants and making safe spaces for them, and sanctuary cities for them!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they hear about this Alt-Right stuff. And so they’re basically flocking to the light, and they get exposed to basically the truth about what’s going on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s how I see the Alt-Right as fitting into this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The name Alt-Right, a lot of the people associated with that in the early days, and really when that was founded it, bug me, because they’re very weak on the jewish problem, and recognizing that the jews are at war with Whites. They kind of tend to be – I’m thinking now of Richard Spencer. But also his two partners originally at the Alternative Right Website that he started up, and who continue to be kind of associated with the Alt-Right, and critics of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re soft on the jews! You know, they talk about the symptoms. And Trump in a way is like this too. He’ll talk about the symptoms, but he won’t name the jews. And there’s a lot of Alt-Light type people, same thing! They’ll talk about what they see as wrong with society. But when it gets to:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“What’s causing it? What’s at the root of the problem?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They kind of dance around that issue. And that’s really what defines this spectrum of Alt-Light to Alt-Right to, on beyond, you know, National Socialism, and beyond.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, I agree with you! And I mean, I like Spencer. I like what he says. I think he makes a lot of good points. I do think you’re right though in that, at least from what I can tell, he hasn’t really been particularly as hard hitting on the jewish problem as say you, or I would. And I think it is key. I think it’s absolutely central to everything! But at the same time he doesn’t back down on it. He doesn’t deny it, or something like that. Which is fine&#8230; I mean, I like Spencer. I like what he’s doing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I wanted to get your take on the whole thing that happened at the recent NPI Conference, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Tan laughs]</strong></span> and how that’s kind of, &#8230; I don’t want to say “<em>divided the Alt-Right</em>”. But sort of made it very clear like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Look the Alt-Right is a racist, you know, anti-semitic movement!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And like this does need to be made clear and needs to be made explicit. And I think Spencer has handled it very, very, well actually.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes. Let me make myself clear on Spencer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>First of all, I don’t dislike him. And I don’t distrust him even. I think that he’s basically a White man standing up for White interests, and he’s doing it in public. He has all my respect. I was listening to him, watching him, at Texas A and M, earlier this evening.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And while there are some things that I thought he was weak about. In particular the way he was describing things it was sort of like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, we just sort of got here.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How did we get into this mess was never really something that he grappled with. And none of the questions that I saw anyway, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> He probably never explicitly said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Look, jews did this!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> mean like that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> I don’t think he thinks that, so, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> He does think that White White people are sort of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“All powerful and omnipotent. And if we just get our shit together then we can do anything we want!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I kind of agree with that. I think it’s the problem is in our heads. That we if we decide that we want to do something we organized to do it. We can kick ass! But it’s still going to be a battle! It’s not like there’s no opponent. And that’s what bothers me about the “<em>soft on the jews</em>” point of view, is it basically is ignorant of, or is ignoring this giant competitor that we have! That, at the moment, has us on the defensive and basically prostrate. It’s not the right way to actually go about fighting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But back to Spencer. He comes across as a very likable guy, you know, personable. He’s very articulate and he gets it. I think he’s aware of the jews, and he’s learning. I think I’ve seen basically a progression over the years in his attitudes and his recognition that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Yeah. This is serious!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Sometimes he’s a little bit too jocular about it, you know, sarcastic, or whatever. But basically he’s being a leader. He’s trying to get out there and get in people’s faces, and raise White consciousness. And he’s a he gets all my respect for doing that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But as far as the NPI conference, the “<em>Heil Gate</em>”, the “<em>Heil Trump</em>” and all that, and people giving the Roman salute. I think it says more about the people who freaked out about that and immediately surrendered <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> in reaction to that! Or basically thought that was some sort of like telling, self-defeating! Greg Johnson’s reaction was particularly hysterical.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> I missed his! Was he freaking out about it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah. It’s pathetic. It was like thirteen, fourteen, minutes of him basically just with a womanly attitude about the whole thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’ve made this point before, going back to the Dylan Roof thing. Is if people don’t like what’s happening you can always keep your mouth shut! If you think that the something is bad, instead of being basically negative and undermining. You could just be quiet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And people are going to say the same about me, that I could just keep my mouth shut about the stuff. And I even say it about myself. That I someone who’s involved with, married to a woman whose father was jewish. I have no moral standing, no right, to speak to White people about what they should, or shouldn’t do, or lead White people. But I’m sorry! Seeing people using the Roman salute, saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Heil Trump!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What bugs me about that mostly is the disrespect towards the actual National Socialists who are best known for that, and who deserve respect, not mocking, not a joking attitude, a sarcastic attitude about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I took it as though the guys, at least some of them who were doing it, were serious. They were excited! They liked what they were hearing. And it’s great when somebody can stir up a crowd like that. That’s of a positive thing! That’s exactly why the jews try to psychopathology that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“That only crazy, stupid, evil, haters do that kind of thing! And you shouldn’t do that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And to see people, long term people, who know better like. Greg Johnson, get so disturbed by it. It’s demoralizing <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> to see that happen!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He cited as evidence that, or maybe not as evidence, but it’s just sort of like the people who inspired him were people like Mike Cernovich, and Vox Day, and who’s the other the jew who does who’s the philosopher? Molyneux. All Alt-Light people who aren’t pro-White, who are part jews, or jews. Vox Day likes to brag about he’s tri-racial.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, if I got no standing to talk about things, then they certainly don’t. And why is Greg Johnson even concerned.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t even know what I’m talking about Greg Johnson! I wasn’t even going to write about it, or talk about it. It’s a sort of when you ask me my reaction about that Heil Gate thing, the reaction from White people, and especially White so-called leaders, or Alt-Right type people, is telling.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I agree with the people who have said this has exposed some cucks, and maybe will scare them off. And that’s a good thing! Go away!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Race is real! It’s about race. And the jews are at the heart of it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you’re not going to be able to just:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Step over the ‘Holocaust’!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>To be able to:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Step over the Nazis.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And call them the:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Old Right.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And say that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We don’t associate with those ideas.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because as that whole Trump campaign made clear, you can basically be a servant to the jews, and if you talk about things that the jews don’t like they’re going to call you a Nazi and Hitler anyway! Because in a sense you are! If you advocate anything that’s healthy for White people, in any way, even if at the same time you say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I hate Hitler! I hate the Nazis!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re still going to call you Hitler and Nazis!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what’s more important than what they call you is how they will treat you! Because what those labels mean is basically:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Sic ‘em! Get that guy! Kill him! Put him in prison!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s what they mean when they say those words. That’s what those words mean to them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[80:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> I completely agree with everything you’ve said.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is a point that I’ve been trying to make for, jeez, probably years now. Is if we are serious about this and we really want to set things right, we cannot avoid Revisionism, we can’t avoid confronting this fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative head on! And openly saying that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“This is not true! None of this is true!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s a weaponized narrative history that is entirely concocted by jews to advance jewish interests. It is a weapon being used against Whites. And we need to openly say that we have all of the evidence and proof on our side. It’s not as if this is in debate anymore. It’s been conclusively demonstrated that this story is not true!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Hitler was a good guy! Read the damn book! Read Mein Kampf! What is he wrong about? Listen to some of the speeches.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, that’s a thing. And I mean, we need to be openly saying this! I mean, what is so wrong with that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> That was something that Greg Johnson, that was one of the claims that he made is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Why would we want to attack the jews where they were strongest?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They aren’t strongest there! They defend the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. They make it literally illegal to question it, because it is their weakest point! Because they have harmed us so tremendously!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s that the war was caused by jews and jewing! It was a reaction! The National Socialists were reacting in self defense of the German people against the depredations that jews had done to them. The harm that they had caused with their parasitism! And the parasitism was not just the Germans. It’s just the Germans were the ones who stood up against it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> The parasitism happened for centuries, if not millennia before that, to other people. And it’s happened to other Europeans at the time when the Germans stood up against it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s happening now! It’s even clearer!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And once you realize that, once that’s something clicks in your head and you realize that you’ve been lied to your whole life about this fucking “<em>Holocaust</em>” thing! You realize Hitler was right! The National Socialists were right!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>White people have been basically fed upon by these jews for millennia now, and it’s coming to a head! They’re going to kill us! They are killing us!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. I totally agree.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> We are morally in the Right. We have nothing to run away from! We don’t need to “<em>step over the ‘Holocaust’</em>”! We need to refute it directly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes, I completely agree! And I mean there’s no avoiding this issue. There’s no stepping over this if issue if you care about White people. It is unavoidable.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> As I say, it’s been weaponized. And it’s a weapon that’s used against Whites! It’s harming Whites! Literally sucking, &#8230; I mean, you can measure it in dollars, or in pounds, or in marks, or now in Euros, the money that they take, they literally siphoned out of our countries and direct to Israel, because of the “<em>Holocaust</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, of course, that’s only a fraction of the overall harm that’s caused! There’s all of the crime. And all of the violence. And all of the murders, and the rapes, going on in Europe, because of this “<em>refugee</em>” invasion. And in the United States, because of our open borders.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That all happens, because we can’t have a country. Because that’s like Nazis and Hitler!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah! Exactly! Exactly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> If you want a a country you’ve got to deal with that issue head on!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes. I totally agree. One quick comment I want to make about the whole Heil Gate situation. I mean, based on some of the interviews I’ve heard, and it’s mostly Mike Enoch, one of the guys from The Right Stuff, he was on. And he was there and apparently he kind of initiated the salute there. It sounded like that they were very genuine. They weren’t trying to sort of, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Exuberant!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. I mean, I think there’s nothing wrong with doing a Roman salute. I mean, my God! Who cares? What struck me, and I mean, it doesn’t surprise me, but it’s just so incredible that the media was so focused on this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Meanwhile outside we have these radical antifa protesters attacking people, disrupting restaurants, barging in and assaulting people, and spraying people with, &#8230; I mean, literally they apparently had some container filled with human excrement. And they were like spraying it on Spencer and other people there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[85:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, this gets no coverage! And kids at school, young kids at school, young White kids at school who go on Facebook and say they voted for Trump, or say they like Trump, they’re getting beat up. No coverage! No coverage at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>A White reporter – I just heard a story about this – a White reporter down in Houston went on Facebook the very next day after the election saying she was thankful that Trump was elected and made a couple other comments. She’s fired from her job. No coverage!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, issues so insane that they’re freaking out about someone throwing up a Roman salute. A simple gesture, and meanwhile all these anti-Trump people are rampaging in the streets, burning down cities, attacking people. I mean, it’s just so insane! And so infuriating to see this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well it’s ironic, you know. They have this sort of two faced reaction. I made a little meme, an image meme about it. That the jews, they like out of one side of their face to mock us, that we’re so insignificant, we’re never going to win.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then at the very next moment at the other side of their face, you know, they’re fretting about what’s going to happen when we do win!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that you saw that with their reaction to the NPI thing. Which was such a blow up! The media blew that up way out of proportion, because it’s the jewish media.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t say “<em>media</em>”, I call it the “<em>jews media</em>” even though it takes more characters in Twitter. I always wrote “<em>jews media</em>”, because it’s good to emphasize what is behind it. Instead of calling it the “<em>mainstream media</em>”, or the “<em>liberal media</em>”, and the “<em>liberal bias</em>” of the media, it’s a jewish bias in the media! It’s a jewish agenda, it’s jewish narrative.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They say they disguise it just like they disguise themselves sometimes. And other times they make it crystal clear.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And when they freak out about some guys given the Roman salute and saying “<em>Heil</em>”, they are basically telling us, &#8230; It’s like with their reaction to Trump’s speech about globalist elite, and bankers and media, that they’re telling you that it’s all about the jews, and exposing themselves!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. Hey real quick. What do you think of Spencer’s speech down there at Texas A and M? Did you get a chance to watch it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> The initial coverage was pretty bad from Red Ice. I tuned in to a different link that was clearer for like I think the second half of the speech. And then the question &amp; A, I caught the first half of that before that link went bad.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My reaction is respect. That he’s out there speaking openly to – in hostile territory – these people. Basically trolling them in real life. And that must be what he’s doing. Because I mean, it’s part of, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One thing I don’t like really is why is he even talking to the enemy? Once I woke up to see race and my own feelings towards Whites, and myself as a White man, I had no interest in debating with blacks. And even as much as I now focus on jews, and trying to understand their arguments, and trying to understand their tactics and their techniques, I don’t have any interest in debating them about anything!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There is nothing to debate with our enemies! All we need to do is debate with ourselves to come to the conclusion that they are enemies! And that’s, I think, the most important thing, that they are enemies! And we need to fight them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, the thing is, and you can see this, &#8230; I didn’t really see much of his speech. I saw a few little video segments on Twitter before, you know, we started reporting this. So I really didn’t see hardly anything that happened there. But I did see some of the Q &amp; A, some the questions asked.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the thing is, and I’ve discovered this online, and comments, and whatnot, trying to engage and trying to have an honest discussion about these issues with jews, or with non-Whites, and you try and try, you try to be is honest and genuine as you can and explain your point of view as best you can, without being insulting, or condescending.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And these people are just dishonest! They don’t even want to try! They don’t even attempt to understand where you’re coming from. It’s that, or they’re so delusional, so brainwashed, by this anti-White narrative that you cannot have a discussion with these people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s one clip I put it up on my Twitter feed right now. It’s a brief video of this big fat black chick at the university. She gets up, and she asked Spencer this question. And she’s saying how blacks founded civilization, and how blacks taught White people philosophy, and architecture, and everything else. And it’s like this lady, this black woman really does genuinely believe this! And not a single word she said is true, or backed up by any historical evidence, any archaeological evidence. She’s just so gone!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s like, how do you even engage in a discussion with someone like that? And the answer is, you can’t! Yeah you can’t, you don’t! It’s a waste of time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I totally support what Spencer is doing. I think it’s good to have at least get up there and present our perspective. Something from a pro-White perspective. And I think he does a good job at that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> He did it without apology.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. I think he’s good.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> George Lincoln Rockwell used to do something similar. He used to go to colleges and give speeches in front of large audiences, to hostile jews, and anti-White Whites. And they were very popular.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in fact, they were so popular that basically that was part of why this strategy of the jews to what they call “<em>No platforming</em>”. To basically stop debating!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, they understand this existential struggle. And the fact that we are enemies! And once they understand that, they have this attitude that I’m talking about, or that you see, they don’t debate honestly. There’s nothing to debate! You’re a Nazi! You’re a racist! We you’re supposed to be destroyed:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I’m surprised you’re still around. I thought we got rid of all you guys?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That kind of attitude. And it’s a relentless and uncompromising attitude.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I learned that lesson early with this guy, Lawrence Auster online, who used to write in such “<em>intellectual</em>”, you know, nit picky. He would tear apart logically liberal arguments. And the minute you touched on the jews, he just lost his, &#8230; All the intellect went out the window! All that desire to argue and pick apart the little details, out the window!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You’re an anti-semite! Your basically a non-person, a non human being!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Wouldn’t even talk to you directly anymore. Just talked about you in the third person like you were non human. And that was a shock to me, because I was like, as you described, at that point I was still kind of like not clear on just how deep this went. And how the racial animus, I didn’t understand it as racial animus.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I understood that the jews were enemies. I said that, I think, in the first post I made about it. Is they are not only our enemies, but their enemies. Which is kind of like I think the right idea! I had it pretty early on, I guess, when things snapped in my head I got it right away.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it took me years then to basically fill in the pieces, the missing pieces, about how we got here. How did this happen, and the basic techniques that they used, the psychology of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. Very well said. And there’s been a good conversation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I have one final question and it relates to, &#8230; You had mentioned how the jews pursued a strategy back when Rockwell was giving all these speeches, of basically just not covering anything he was doing, at least for a certain period of time. They just deplatformed him, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Banning him!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. And banning him and shutting it down, of course.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But now it’s like they can’t give us enough ink, you know, they’re promoting the Alt-Right and all this, even though they’re doing it in many cases very dishonestly, and trying their best to demonize us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[93:39]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> What I hear from the hive mind is that they’re torn on this. It’s like with Trump too. They gave Trump what they thought was enough rope to hang himself with. And it didn’t turn out the way they thought.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They thought by covering him that they would basically expose what a nutcase he was and people wouldn’t vote for him. And it didn’t turn out that way. They don’t have the level of control that they thought they had.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s the sort of the positive message here. Is the jews are omnipotent. They’re not all powerful. They can be fought! And they can be defeated! Trump defeated them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Unfortunately for us, he’s not a racialist, he’s not pro-White, he’s not anti jewish. But he was able to defeat them in spite of them throwing almost everything they had at him, short of bullets in the head.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, what’s amazing to me is that they are giving us so much coverage. When they could just not be covering any of this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> It’s the rope thing. Like with the Heil Gate and the Bannon thing. It’s their concern and they’re airing it. And they’re putting their spin on it. And they’re basically building on decades of propaganda and billions of dollars invested in this negative associations with these things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so when they write a story about the NPI conference and these people giving Nazi salutes in Washington DC, There are basically trying to scare each other, and sort of warn each other:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Hey! It’s happening again! It’s happening! And we’ve got to do something squash this!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s why they do it. And I think they will switch to just silencing us. And it’s basically they can do both. I mean, they’ve got the ADL and other organizations lobbying constantly to get us shutdown. They try to shut down the NPI thing. They do both at the same time. They cover it with their spin on it, and <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> they try to shut it down same time! And there’s not a contradiction there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s a constant debate, as I was saying amongst the hive mind of the jews media. On Twitter you can see them having this debate every day about this whether they should do this, or that, or more of this, or less of that. That kind of thing:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Is it good, or bad for the jews?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Basically.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Constantly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> What do you think is the future of the Alt-Right? Do you see this as something that’s going to have a legitimate political impact in the years to come?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[96:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes. I think like the Tea Party, it will go on. There’s been struggles for this past year and a half over the soul of it, and who gets to define it. And I know Andrew Anglin has fought very hard to make sure that people did not “<em>steal it</em>”. And that Alt-Light didn’t get away with it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Even Spencer himself has defended it from Alt-Light type people coming into it and trying to redefine it. The jews media tried early on to define it as Milo. Milo Yiannopoulos was the leader of it. And I forget who else. Several other like not just Alt-Light, but, you know, jew friendly type figures that they tried to nominate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And even recently Jared Taylor, up until this Heil Gate thing, jared Taylor was being touted as a leader of Alt-Right. And that’s kind of disgusting to me!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because, you know, Taylor, as much as I can credit him with waking people up to racial consciousness, he is a person that has spent far too much time thinking about what the problems are to not see the jews, to not see the jews role in this!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And every time he’s pressed on the issue, he cucks for the jews! He defends the jews! Says that they’re White basically, or at least some of them are, and that we sort of have to welcome some of them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because why? Well, he never really explains. Why do White people need to accept jews as White? There is no good reason that he offers for that. And he’s really pressed on it. And when he is pressed on that he disappoints as far as understanding that the jews are the enemy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think that his statement about the Heil Gate thing was basically he went right to the point of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I don’t think it’s a good idea to call jews enemies. The jews can be White.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said. And that’s exactly wrong! That’s worse than Alt-Light! That’s worse than normie White! That’s like you’re basically an enemy yourself!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> If you don’t recognize the enemy and call it “<em>the enemy</em>”, and, in fact, say the opposite, that they’re not our enemy, that they’re actually White people who maybe have lost their way, or whatever, and we should accept them. That’s actually like enemy activity!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Treason, yeah? It really is. And I mean, the guy’s very intelligent obviously. And he said a lot of very good things. But on this one issue. I mean, I’ve always felt this way about him. Because I remember the first time I discovered his work. It was him cucking on the jews. And I’m like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“What is this guy talking about!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Jews are not White. I mean, ask a jew yourself and they will tell you they’re not White. They hate White people <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>. They’ll tell you themselves!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> They dance around it! This is something that has been coming out during this election cycle is this “<em>goy posing</em>”, where they pretend to be White. And there’s value to pretending to be White for them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s the only time they will pretend to be White is when there’s value in it for them. Either to shift the blame to White people. Like say when some jew gets caught doing something really bad, you know, they’re portrayed in the jewish media as a “<em>White</em>” person!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This is just another example of White privilege and White abuses!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’re not identified as jews. That’s one thing. But then they’ll also, and this is even smaller jews. And online, on Twitter, this really got exposed very badly. And the (((echo meme))) thing was a big part of this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That the jews will say something negative about White people, speaking for White people, speaking to White people, as a White person:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I think this, or that shitty thing about White people!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they would posture as if they were White.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And people started to basically call them on it and put parentheses around their (((name))), or mock them, and laugh at them. And say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You’re not White! You’re a jew!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the best was when they post some picture, a snapshot of some previous tweet, that they had made where they were saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“As a jew, I think this, or that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this isn’t just some new thing. It’s newly discovered, and it’s a new form of calling the jews on it. It’s actually a very positive sign that White people are calling the jews on this. For decades the jews have gotten away with this posturing as White, in order to tell us what to do, to basically posture as moral authorities about what White people should, or shouldn’t do, should, or shouldn’t say!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, sort of like that the double talk of it, is that then if they are pressed on the issue, it’ll be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, because I’m a jew, I really understand these issues best about hate and minorities being oppressed, and, because of the &#8216;Holocaust&#8217; and all!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s a real example of privilege where they can basically be White when they want to shit on White people, and shovel blame our way. And they can be jews when they want to be treated specially in a positive way and be protected, because they’re jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is something that they’ve done throughout history. This posing as their host. I mean, it has this biological analogy where a parasite will literally disguise itself. It’s called “<em>Crypsis</em>”. So that the host mistakes it as one of its own.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And understanding it at that level, it’s very explicative. It really explains what’s going on in a solid sense. But it’s also like the most stomach churning way of seeing it, that it makes so much sense, it’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“God, this is bad!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> This is for me, I’m a kind of embroiled in it. And Trump is too!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You see how it happens. The jews gravitate, at least some of them do, towards mixing with the most powerful in their host. And they use that infiltration then to enhance their ability to manipulate that host.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And by doing it amongst the most powerful people, of course, they get the most leverage that way. By intermixing with the aristocracy, or the leaders of a given society.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think of it as like claws, or fangs biting into the host, and it allows then the larger body of jews, the other half of the jews the jewry, the Orthodox, Hasidim, who basically are a closed gene pool, transfer the wealth and the energy that they suck out of their host to that sort of fruiting body to feed on! It’s disgusting! But that’s what’s happening right now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Jew York City especially, sort of like the epicenter of this, where you got these Orthodox jew communities springing up, colonies really, you could think of them as, all around the New York City area. Where basically they take over. And it’s like a little Israel in those places!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. It’s a real problem. The jewish problem! That is the best way to look at it. And as he said before it really is a jewish war on White people. That’s the way it should be understood. Because that’s exactly what’s going on. And the sooner Whites recognize that, the sooner we can finally deal with it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in order to deal with it we have to be clear about race. We have to be clear about what the jews are up to. And we have to be real about our history! And not accept these weaponized jewish narratives of World War Two especially, but many other aspects of our collective history.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we cannot let them manipulate us with these with these buzzwords, “<em>racist</em>”, “<em>anti-semite</em>”. I mean, we have to totally break free of all of their aspects of control. And I think we’re making steps in that direction.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[104:56]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Oh yes! Big progress! Lots of people, it’s incredible how many people and how quickly they’re waking up to it. I remember when I first woke up myself. It seemed like it was kind of depressing, because there were so few people that were actually discussing it. I mean, it was literally a handful of websites. And all credit to the generations of men and women who’ve gone before, that were aware of the problem and died for it! Died fighting!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But by the early 2000s it was like just a handful of people in the corners of the web where we’re discussing these things. And now it’s just a totally different environment. It’s like a giant websites with obviously hundreds, or thousands of people getting together and discussing these things. And discussing it, like I said, on Twitter, openly mocking the jews, as jews, for trying to pull their old tricks that used to work.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’re not working. So the reaction to that is to shut down. That’s why they ban people when you do confront them and expose them directly. Then that’s when they have to shut you down.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> That’s right. Well Tan, I don’t know if you had any other closing remarks?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you do please let us know. And if not, you go ahead and plug your website. And we will wrap up this program.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah. This just one last point. Which is that a theme I’ve hit on many times over the last couple of years, is this “<em>suicide meme</em>”, which is also “<em>pathological altruism</em>”, it’s sometimes called. Which I think of a “<em>suicide meme 2.0</em>”. It’s more a more sciency thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think it’s been discredited. And I think it wasn’t because of the arguments that I made – maybe a small part because of that. But it was mainly because the events going on around us discredited the idea that White people are doing this to ourselves! We see that it was the invasion of Europe when the so-called “<em>refugee</em>” thing got out of control in 2015. A lot of people, even people who previously had been silent, spoke up about it and could see for themselves that this is destruction! This is not self-inflicted.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is like a somebody inside the Gates has opened the Gates for the outside world to pour in. And our leaders, our supposedly leaders are welcoming it! And defending these aliens against us! And that was exactly the kind of thing that I realized back in 2007, or so, when I woke up, that it was a clear to me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But a lot of people, &#8230; Just like Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, and these things that the jewish media have had hyped out of control, “<em>Black Lives Matter</em>”, what it finally culminated in, it actually ends up a wakening people to what’s going on. And so I think that’s a good thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’m sick of hearing about the suicide meme! I thought in its original form it originated from jews who are basically just trying to make an excuse for the fact that it was a jew war on Whites. That’s what’s going on. It’s a genocide agenda! And it’s a jewish genocide agenda of Whites.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think a lot of people getting that. They’re not just getting that it’s about race and about jews. But they get that Whites are in big trouble. And yes, we’ve got all sorts of pathological behaviors and all sorts of sick things, degenerate things that we’re up to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this is not something that arose naturally within ourselves and would have happened without the jews. This is totally instigated by this alien people that see us as their enemy! And have basically inflicted this upon us. And it wouldn’t be happening without them. So it’s, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes. I totally agree.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> We have to fight! I mean, that’s the main way. When people say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! But we have to improve ourselves! We have to do better and, &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>Yeah! Let’s do better! Let’s recognize our enemies as enemies! And let’s fight them! Instead of pretending that we’re the only thing that exists in the world. And we’re the only force to be reckoned with.</p>
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<p>That’s not going to work. I mean, that’s like if you were, I don’t know, infected with some small parasite that makes you sick. And you just pretend:</p>
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<p>No! It would happen! And you need to recognize what the real root of the problem is and deal with that problem!</p>
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<p>So that’s the last thought. My web site is <a href="http://age-of-treason.com">Age of Treason dot com</a>.</p>
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<p>There’s not much activity between say January, February of this year, and just this past month. And I don’t know how long have the energy to keep writing. As I said in the past, I don’t really like repeating myself. I see these themes over, and over, again.</p>
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<p>Twitter kind of got me in the habit of, on a daily basis, posting at least short things. So people may notice compared to my older blog posts which were very long and detailed. And I don’t trouble with that anymore. I don’t make elaborate arguments anymore.</p>
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<p>Maybe I still have that in me at some point I will post that. But right now I’m more concerned to get important issues, and focus on them, make a blog post focusing on an issue that I think is actually crucial. And maybe say something pretty simple about it.</p>
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<p>And it’s a good way to get past writer’s block for me. Because after being away from it – blog posting for so long – actually, it was quite a struggle to write the first blog post <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>! I was instigated by the pent up energy of not being able to post on Twitter anymore. So it happened.</p>
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<p>And once it happened once that I was able to start writing more. But I don’t intend to go back to multi page long things. And I don’t even know about podcasting. I mean, it took a lot of energy to make the podcasts I’ve made. And I covered all the basics.</p>
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<p>At this point, I’d only be adding a few little details. So I don’t know what I’ll be doing in the future, is basically what I’m trying to say.</p>
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<p>If people are curious about these issues and they think that what I’m saying is exaggerated, go read some of the things I’ve written on my blog, and documented, and linked to. I make detailed arguments. For people who are truly curious, they’ll go and they can find the information.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, I completely agree. And I hope people do check out your website and check out your radio archives. And also check out the previous podcast that we did a year ago, that I mentioned at the very beginning of this program.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> I agree.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, I think that was very good. And, in fact, the title of that podcast was “<a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/12/08/the-realist-report-tanstaafl-the-jew-as-a-parasite-transcript/"><em>The jew as a Parasite</em></a>”! So we really get into the jewish problem in probably even greater detail than we did in this show.</p>
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<p>But yeah, man, you’re always welcome here. I mean, it’s always great talking to you. I think between you and MacDonald, I think you guys are really kind of done more than then, &#8230; I mean, I guess in a contemporary context I think Hitler’s had a huge impact on my understanding of the jewish problem.</p>
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<p>But you and MacDonald have added a lot to it. Help me come to the conclusions that I’ve come to. And I think they’re very well founded and unavoidable!</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> If you simply do the research.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, thank you John. And it makes me happy to hear that I’ve had an influence, a positive influence, on other White people. And I’ve heard that from a handful of people over the last couple of years. And it makes me happy!</p>
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<p>I mean, I’ve invested quite a few hours in trying not only to understand it myself, but then to try and explain it in terms that other people would maybe have an easier time then, if I laid it out, the work that I had invested. And I’m glad I did that. And I’ll continue to do it as long as I can find the time and energy to do it.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Excellent! Well, thank you so much for joining me today. We will have to do another program in the future, maybe once Trump finally gets in and, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Once we see what he’s, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Once we see what he’s doing, exactly! Yeah that’s really what I’ve been&#8230; I mean, we can sit here and speculate all day long. But I really want to see what he’s going to do. I think some of his picks are kind of revealing. But ultimately will this kind of have to wait and see what happens. But hopefully we’ll still be able to communicate if, you know, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> at that point assuming he doesn’t sign some crazy legislation.</p>
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<p>So anyways, thanks a lot than! And I really do appreciate it. And please do keep up the great work. And I hope people check out your website. And we will talk again soon.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Thanks John.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/12/10/the-realist-report-interviews-tanstaafl-2016-transcript/">The Realist Report Interviews TANSTAAFL — 2016 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-26375 alignnone" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER-643x1024.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="477" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER-643x1024.jpg 643w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER-600x955.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER.jpg 651w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-22205 alignnone" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3-669x1024.jpg" alt="" width="309" height="473" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3-669x1024.jpg 669w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3-600x919.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3.jpg 700w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 309px) 100vw, 309px" /></a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; [In these two latest videos Ramzpaul explains why he has dropped his support for the Alt-Right “label” after Richard Spencer failed to disavow the movement’s “Nazi” element following the NPI Conference, where some attendees gave “sieg heils” when &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2016/11/30/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-and-sieg-heils-transcripts/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[In these two latest videos Ramzpaul explains why he has dropped his support for the Alt-Right “<i>label</i>” after <b>Richard Spencer</b> failed to disavow the movement’s “<i>Nazi</i>” element following the <b>NPI Conference</b>, where some attendees gave “<i>sieg heils</i>” when Spencer raised his glass and declared loudly, “<i>Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail Victory!</i>”  </span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Although Ramzpaul makes many good points on some side issues I think he’s making a mountain out of a molehill out of this whole incident by declaring the Alt-Right’s “<i>brand</i>” toxic because of it.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">More seriously though, is Ramzpaul’s belief that the website, “<b><i>The Daily Stormer</i></b>” which has recently claimed to be Alt-Right, is in fact fake opposition, funded by the <b>ADL</b>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">But then in that case, what about <b><i>Amren</i></b>, which Ramzpaul does support, and its leader, <b>Jared Taylor</b>, who attended the conference and is <b>openly pro-jew</b>? The very people whose organizations are behind our on-going destruction! Is <b><i>Amren</i></b> also fake opposition, funded by the <b>ADL, </b>Ramzpaul? —  KATANA]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Donald Trump disavows the Alt Right after Roman salutes are featured at the NPI conference.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">After NPI&#8217;s Roman Salutes,  President elect Trump was forced to disavow the Alt Right. Most normal people can support the Alt Right ideas of self-determination, protection of borders, good trade deals, America First, etc. But normal people can&#8217;t support anything that is associated with Nazism.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">In my discussions with Brietbart I explained the tension between the Alt Right versus the 14/88 crowd. In general, Breitbart was sympathetic to the ideas of the Alt Right as I described them.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">However, they obviously did not support the 14/88 notion of the Alt Right.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Eventually, the 14/88 crowd won this battle once Richard Spencer was associated with Nazism. Of course, I don&#8217;t think Richard is a Nazi. But it does not matter at this point. Whenever the Alt Right is discussed in the media, they will show the Roman Salute clip over and over. And as Richard is the self proclaimed leader of the Alt Right, the brand is now impossible to rehabilitate.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">But it really doesn&#8217;t matter at this point. The Alt Right was a phenomenon that helped launch Trump into the White House. Now that he has been elected, there is no need for the &#8220;<i>alternative</i>&#8221; label. We are now the Trump Right.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Hey guys. First of all I’m still in the process of moving back home. I don’t know my final location, but, so I don’t have my camera equipment. But I thought I had to discuss this whole thing that blew-up with Richard Spencer and the NPI and the Alt-Right. And, first of all what was reported was outrageous. Because supposedly Richard said that he asked the question, “<i>Are Jews even human?</i>” He didn’t ask that and in his speech he said, “<i>Are Republican strategists even human?</i>”. It was a joke! He wasn’t talking about Jews. So, CNN had lied there. And there’s supposedly the, you know, the Roman salute that happened. All Richard did was he had a glass and did a toast, “<i>Hail Trump!</i>” at the end. Big deal! We say “<i>Hail To the Chief</i>” for the president. It shouldn’t be that big of an issue. But unfortunately, we have some people that intentionally got up and did the Roman salute, a couple times, I guess there before and they did that and tweeted it.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2442-richard-spencer-raising-his-glass.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12583 aligncenter" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2442-richard-spencer-raising-his-glass.jpg?w=500" alt="ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2442-richard-spencer-raising-his-glass" width="500" height="337" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] Richard Spencer raising his glass while announcing, “<i>Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail Victory!</i>” at the NPI Conference 2016.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And yeah, at that point, Donald Trump had to disavow the Alt-Right. Because, you can’t hang on to something that’s Nazi. You just can’t! Because Naziism, it was seventy years ago. It’s just a brand that doesn’t translate well. It scares people. And if you’re going to do a <i>seig heil</i>, it’s over! It’s really over! And so, the truth, it doesn’t really matter what happened with NPI and with Richard Spencer. It’s a perception. And whenever they think about the Alt-Right now, people are going to think about the Romans salute! [laughing] And I won’t even do it now otherwise they’ll use my image.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#008000;"><a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2439-audience-members-giving-nazi-salute.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12581 aligncenter" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2439-audience-members-giving-nazi-salute.jpg?w=500" alt="ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2439-audience-members-giving-nazi-salute" width="500" height="281" /></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] “<i>Hands up</i>” at the NPI Conference 2016.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And yeah, that’s not fair, but politics is not fair. So now the Alt-Right brand is damaged. It’s associated with Naziism. And normal Americans aren’t going to support that. Which is a shame, but it’s really OK, you know. Why am I saying it’s OK? For a period of time before Trump got elected, the Alt-Right really grew. And part of the reason — I’m a little of the reason, just hang on — I did an interview with Milo and I spoke to him briefly. He’d use a lot of my quotes with Breitbart when they talk about, “<i>What is the Alt-Right?</i>” And I did some also some articles for “<i>Return of the Kings</i>”, some videos. And I try to explain what the Alt-Right is. It’s not traditional conservatism, which is about low taxes and open borders, but it’s also not 14/88, about neo-Nazis and all that shit! It’s about having an identity. That all people, jews, White people, Chinese — we all have an identity and we all have the right to live and of self-determination. That’s a core.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">There’s other issues too with trade and so forth, but that was basically the core. It’s not like this Nazi hate ideology! And, you know, what? Most people can really get on to that. Most people are like:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Yeah, I’m tired of political correctness. If other groups have identity, why can’t we? Why can’t we all have nationalism?</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">And it really resonates with people.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And it did with Breitbart. And I know, because Milo published it and Steve Bannon saw that. And that’s why Steve Bannon, Trump’s Chief of Staff now, was on board with the Alt-Right. Because it’s something you can defend! But what happened is, immediately the enemy primarily and I’ll say it, I’ve said this before. I think Daily Stormer, to be honest, is a fake opposition. I think is funded by the ADL. And I’m not going to get into debates, why. I think that, I really do. And initially this Daily Stormer, they were opposed to the Alt-Right. But when they saw that it was getting on, they changed their strategy. And I said “<i>they</i>”, because I don’t think it’s just Andrew Anglin [laughing] that is in charge of it. I’ve heard his interviews. I think there’s a whole group that works on that website. And they decided to repurpose it, or try to co-opt the Alt-Right, to say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey! The Alt-Right is all about Naziism, of 14/88</i>”.</p>
</blockquote>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And they were so good at that, they were basically able to say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey! 14/88 and Naziism, that is the core of the Alt-Right, and the rest of you are trying to co-opt what we’re doing!</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Which was nonsense. But that was their strategy. And, but there was a lot of tension there between it. But still the ones that looked at the Alt-Right is not being Naziism, but being [about] identity, about being nationalism, were able to win the day initially up to the election. Then right after the election, &#8230; Yeah, finally because of the Richard Spencer thing that blew apart, now it is associated with Naziism!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">But it’s OK! It doesn’t matter. It would be kind of like you’re playing a basketball game and you’re winning by two points, at the last second the guy shoots it, and it’s a three point shot. And you go, “<i>Oh no! We lost!</i>” But no, the game ended before the three pointer went in! And that’s kind of what happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">We kind of won. We won, we got Trump in! So that’s fine.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So, I no longer identify as Alt-Right, just because, there’s no way of rehabilitating that whole image of what the Alt-Right is. It’s, I mean, good for Daily Stormer, I guess. They got it associated with Nazism and they’ve kind of quit that now. They’re trying to associate <b>Republicanism</b> with Nazism! [laughing] That’s their new strategy. Good luck with that!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2446-daily-stormer-banner.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-large wp-image-12585 aligncenter" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2446-daily-stormer-banner.jpg?w=500" alt="ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2446-daily-stormer-banner" width="500" height="174" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] <b><i>The Daily Stormer</i></b>, “<i>America’s #1 Most-Trusted Republican News Source</i>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">That’s OK, because I want to look at the Alt-Right now instead of it just being the Right. There’s no need to have the “<i>Alt</i>” label anymore.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">We have Donald Trump. People like me that support borders, that support immigration controls, that are opposed to globalism and free trade, we have our man in office now. We don’t need to call ourselves, “<i>Alt-Right</i>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So, I’ve given up the label, but I still support self-determination and nationalism for all! I’ll talk to you guys later.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><b>[5:37]</b></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><b>END</b></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Published on Nov 29, 2016</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">A response to Richard Spencer&#8217;s video addressed to me:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://youtu.be/zbQhie3ApyE">https://youtu.be/zbQhie3ApyE</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Richard Spencer created a video (see link above) that addressed me concerning many topics concerning the Alt Right. This is my video response to cover some of the common questions that people have raised that include:</p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">1. What is Nazism</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">2. Punching to the Right</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">3. Disavowing</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">4. Cucking</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">5. Brand identity</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">6. Boundaries needed for a movement</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">From the list above, #6 is key. The idea that you can have a movement that has NO boundaries is insane. Yet, because some people have been fooled with the mantra “<i>never punch to the right</i>” and “<i>never disavow</i>” we now have the Alt Right brand associated with Hollywood Nazis. And as the mainstream media looks at Richard Spencer as the leader of the Alt Right, the fact that he won&#8217;t explicitly disavow Nazism is fatal to the movement.  The serious thinkers have been replaced with Hal Turner and Andrew Anglin types.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">I think Richard is intelligent and quite eloquent. But I fear his message will be muted and he will become the new David Duke for his generation &#8211; pulled out every 4 years by the media to try to discredit the politician he endorses.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">I recommend that Spencer should explicitly disavow that the Alt Right has any connection with Nazism. If he refuses to do so, the Alt Right brand will remain toxic and attract only the kook element.</p>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">The Alt-Right and Boundaries</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">TRANSCRIPT</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><b> </b>[11:42 min]</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">All right. This is going to be my last video about the “<i>Richard Spencer, sieg heil</i>” case.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">But I want to do some clarification. And is going to be a little bit more in depth, because there’s a lot of questions about, you know, what is a Nazi, is it National Socialism, is it Hitler, is something new? What’s a Hollywood Nazi? And there’s a lot of ideas like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey dude, you can never punch right! Never punch right!</i>” or, “<i>Never disavow, don’t disavow! The left doesn’t do that!</i>” or, “<i>They’re going to call you a Nazi anyway, so why do you fight it?</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So, there’s all these things I just want to discuss a little bit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Part of the problem whenever the word “<i>Nazi</i>” is thrown out, is like, “<i>What’s really meant by that term?</i>” Because it’s really so ill defined now. And, so I thought it was good to take a step back, you know, to understand there’s basically three categories that sort of fit the word “<i>Nazi</i>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">The first one is National Socialism. National Socialism is not a political party. It’s a ideology. It’s an economic system, sort of like Socialism is, or Marxism. You know, for example, you can have Marxists, but there’s a lot of different political parties that may adopt Marxism, the same way with National Socialism. And National Socialism is really not about concentration camps, the Holocaust, jews. No! It’s an economic policy. It’s, for example, if you believe in single payer health care. That was a National Socialist policy. Protecting the environment was very important to the National Socialists. Protecting the workers through good trade deals. That was National Socialist. That’s all it is, and that they don’t really have any symbols as an ideology, like Capitalism, or Communism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Then, in the 30’s, 1933 to 1945, just twelve years, just twelve years! That’s all it was in Germany. You had a political party that advocated National Socialism. And they were called the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. What we now know as the Nazis. Adolf Hitler and all that. And as a political party, like the Republicans and the Democrats, you had the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. And the Republicans, they have the elephant as their kind of symbol, the Democrats has a donkey. Well, the National Socialist German Workers’ Party had the swastika. That was it! It didn’t have anything to do with the National Socialism ideology. It had to do with that specific political party. And they also used the Roman salute, which became the Nazis salute, and so forth. And it was headed by Adolf Hitler.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">That was in a sense the Nazi that ended in one 1945. And it was over! It was specifically German. So where is National Socialism, the economic policy, or the ideology, you could export to various countries — even Hitler thought that. But National Socialism German Workers Party, it makes absolutely no sense to export, because it’s just for Germans! So using a swastika elsewhere, especially like the Slavic areas, is stupid! It makes no sense! That party is dead. So the Nazis the real Nazis are all gone. They don’t exist anymore.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">But we have this thing called, “<i>neo-Nazis</i>”. And neo-Nazis, they’ve really started after WW II and almost all of them, like, I posted the link before, have been false flag, heavily Jewish funded, or government funded organizations. And you can ask, “<i>Why would they want to fund something like that?</i>” Well, it’s to discredit nationalist organizations. Because after the war the National Socialist German Workers Party, the Nazis, were really demonized and that’s part of the propaganda. And some of it was justified, some probably wasn’t. But that’s not up for debate. What happened is they were made out to be the devil and it’s got all the worse. So they’re looked at, like Satan now! The worst thing imaginable. So what happened, these groups, they fund these neo-Nazis and then the neo-Nazis — and then this happened through the 70’s and the Illinois Nazis, headed by a Jewish guy, in the 90’s there was a guy named David Wolf something, that was a famous Nazi, he was fake, a Jew.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Recently we had Hal Turner, the big Nazi, he turned out to be a Federal informant, and you have groups like Daily Stormer, that I believe are fake and they are doing the same thing. And what they’re, &#8230; The goal of the neo-Nazis are is to attach themselves — because they know they’re toxic and 99.9% of people are opposed to them — they attach themselves to a movement they want to discredit. And, for example, originally that the Daily Stormer they attach themselves to Donald Trump and it’s not because they like Donald Trump, it’s because they wanted to discredit him. So the mainstream media can say:</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Look at these evil Nazis are supporting Donald Trump! Do you want to support someone that’s supported by Nazis?</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">See, that was the psychology they were using. And it is pretty effective. And that happened with the Alt-Right too, the Daily Stormer was originally opposed to the Alt-Right, but when they saw it was gaining momentum, they decided to try to cut it off, by saying:</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>No! No! The Alt-Right, it’s all about Nazis! If you’re not a Nazi you’re Alt-Right!</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">They started to push that. Now they’re trying to tie it to Republicanism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">But the goal of neo-Nazis is just to discredit normal identity nationalist movements. And not to say, &#8230; I’m sure some people are very sincere. There are some sincere neo-Nazis, but in general Neo Naziism has nothing to do with the original National Socialism. I mean, if you go to sites like the Daily Stormer, they don’t really talk about the ideology of National Socialism, or the economic policies, they say the word “<i>kike</i>” over and over. But the original National Socialism wasn’t about saying, “<i>kike, kike, kike, kike, kike, kike!</i>” It had to do with something deeper. And it has nothing to do with the old Nazis of Adolf Hitler. They just use the same symbols, but it is really not related at all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So, you have the three different groups. You have national socialism, which is the ideology. You have the National Socialist German Workers’ Party that was in Germany and then you have these Hollywood neo-Nazis that are mostly fake!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">One of the things that just bugs me, it’s so frustrating! You hear this all the time is, like, “<i>Dude! Never punched to the right!</i>” Or, “<i>Never disavow!</i>” I mean, that is just retarded! It really is! <span style="color:#008000;">[laughing]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Because, just think about it logically, right! If you can never punch to the Right, which means never criticize someone to the supposed right of you. That is the most extreme positions are beyond criticism! Right, just think of a thought experiment, the most the extreme Right-wing stereotypical position. I don’t know, anyone that doesn’t have blue eyes or blonde hair should be put to death! ! That’s pretty extreme! And so, anyone trying to criticize it, you behave:</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Dude! Dude! Don’t push to the right! Don’t push to the right!</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">You see how stupid that is? And the guy has a psycho position could say:</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>But why? You believe people with brown eyes should be able to live? What are you, a cuck? Cuck, cuck!</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">See, this is just insane!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">What you need to do as any organization is have a circle, a boundary. Yet, you can cuck, and what does cucky means, is you have your principles and you compromise your principles to try to appease the left. God knows, the mainstream Republicans have done that so much they have cucked on that. They’ve taken their principles, they betrayed them. That is wrong. That is cucking! But holding to your principles is not cucking! So you don’t have to support these neo-Nazi, Hollywood Nazi types, otherwise you’re a cuck. In effect if you don’t draw the boundary, you’re screwed. Because they’re going to taint your brand, which we saw with what happened in the Alt-Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So you do need to punch right when needed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Now, the Left, they will punch right, left, if they need to, if they’re pressed on it by the Press. But they usually aren’t. That’s why they usually don’t punch left. But if they were pushed on it, they would. You know they would! And, for example, the whole idea too, that:</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey they’re going to call you Nazis, anyway, so you might as well just be a Nazi</i>”.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">That’s another argument, I hear. Well, again that is stupid! And I use an analogy. There’s the pick up artist community, of guys that try to seduce women, or whatever, into bed. I’m not saying that I agree with it or disagree with it, but the feminists always call them rapists! “Rapists! You’re a rapist!” Which is not, which is absurd! They are not rapists. They try to charge people. That’s not the same thing as rape. But should, by that logic, should they say:</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Well, hey, these feminists are going to call us rapists anyway, so we should self identify as a rapist!</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">That’s stupid! No you don’t want to do that! It is the same thing with this “<i>agree and amplify</i>”. That could be a good strategy at times, but not like someone accuses you of being a child molester of an eight year old girl. You don’t want to “<i>agree and amplify</i>” and say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>No! No! No! You’ve got that wrong! I rape four year olds!</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So that’s just dumb! You’ve got to have some maturity with this. So, as an organization including the Alt-Right, or whatever organization you have, you got to exclude people on the left, or the right. If you don’t exclude anyone on the right, then you’re just going to be, you’re going to lose it! Because the clowns are going to take over and define your movement. That’s what has happened in the Alt-Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Now, the sad thing is, I don’t disavow Richard Spencer, because — I’ll find this interview and I’ll link to it. He did after the conference and — the man really is brilliant. He’s eloquent. He has really interesting things to say. But, what’s really sad, is that is not going to be heard anymore because of his refusal to disavow these Nazi types. And it’s not that hard to say, to disavow. And, you know, he, I think he said:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>It has bad optics, but I’m not going to disavow, or anything like that.</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Well, if you don’t do that, then you’re always going to be associated with Nazis. And you could say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Well, I don’t care they could all be associated with Nazis</i>”.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">But 99.9% of the populace does care, and they won’t take your message seriously. And every time you’re introduced, you’re going to be introduced as a Nazi sympathizer with the “<i>sieg heiling</i>”. And again this has nothing to do with Naziism back in the 30’s. I’m talking about this Hollywood neo-Nazi, <b><i>Daily Stormer</i></b> version. You’re always going to be tainted with that, and no one is going to take you seriously.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And it causes also problems for the people that attended the convention. I kind of feel sorry for them, because whenever you’re attending convention you assume there’s going to be certain protocols. I’ve spoken at <b><i>Amren</i></b>, American Renaissance, and one of the things I’m confident of, is <b>Jared Taylor</b> is never going to turn [it] into this “<i>sieg heil</i>” fest. Because it would be embarrassing, that would taint me. And the same thing with the people that spoke at this now, they’re all have this on their hands and they have to say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey! I didn’t have anything to do with this!</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So, you’ve got to really think what you’re doing and look at the image of your brand, and you’ve got to have a brand that will appeal to people.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2440-3-npi-attendees-giving-nazi-salute-at-bar.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12582" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2440-3-npi-attendees-giving-nazi-salute-at-bar.jpg?w=500" alt="ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2440-3-npi-attendees-giving-nazi-salute-at-bar" width="500" height="260" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] “<i>Exuberant</i>” attendees going all Roman on us. Actually the guy on the left kind of looks like Ramzpaul!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Now, White identity, self-determination, really all those things are winning points. Trade, the whole idea of the Alt-Right really sells to people. But once you mix into it the “<i>sieg heiling</i>” you just lose it! You just lose it.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So, what Richard, I wish he would have said is:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey, I gave a speech, some people, four, or five people did this ‘sieg heil’. We can’t control what people do. I do not approve of this. We are not a Nazi organization. We disavow any Nazi influence, that’s not we’re what we’re about.</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;">And if you just said that, it would have ended it. Because people, yeah the Leftist still would have been mad, but who who gives a shit about them, but normal people would have looked at it and said:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Yeah, well that makes sense, you know, you can’t control what your audience does. He disavowed the people who did that sort of thing, that sort of behavior.</i>”</p>
</blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;">That’s the end of it. But if you don’t disavow it, you just try to play the game, like:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>It was just, they’re just trying to have fun, it’s bad optics</i>”.</p>
</blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;">People are not going to buy it.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So, I think that is the last thing I’m going to to say on the same subject.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Talk to you guys later.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[In this 50 minute speech (including Q &amp; A) at the Nov, 2016 NPI Conference, <b>Prof. Kevin MacDonald</b> discusses the long term role of organised jewry in pushing multiracialism, multiculturalism in the United States and the West. Jewish money power is at the forefront of financing both the Democrat Party and the Republican Party and steering their respective policies towards jewish goals, despite growing grassroots opposition, especially towards Israel and its murderous apartheid policy towards the Palestinians. MacDonald also discusses how organized jewry is notorious for opposing free speech related to race, ethnicity and immigration, in other words, anything that interferes with the jewish goal of destroying homogenous White societies  —  KATANA.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span class="Apple-style-span">Prof. Kevin MacDonald gives an informative talk at NPI 2016 in Washington D.C. about organized Jewish influence. Q &amp; A follows the talk.</span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">NPI 2016 Conference</span></h1>
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<div id="watch-uploader-info" style="text-align:center;"><strong class="watch-time-text">Published on Nov 22, 2016</strong></div>
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<p style="text-align:center;">[50:42]</p>
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<p><b>Richard Spencer:</b> <span style="color:#0000ff;">I hope our next speaker won’t be insulted by the brevity of the introduction that I’m about to give.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">There is no man on the planet who was done more for the understanding of the pole around which the world revolves than Kevin MacDonald!</span> <span style="color:#008000;">[audience applauds]</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Welcome! They know who you are.</span></p>
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<p><b>Kevin MacDonald [Kmac]:</b> They know, oh, OK.</p>
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<p>All right. It’s great to be here after such an exciting, inspiring victory for Donald Trump and I mean, I don’t think anybody really expected it, you know, watching that movie that Richard showed tonight, you know, he could be a hero of our people. And I think that’s what we would all hope and it could happen. I really do think it’s going to happen.</p>
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<p>But tonight I’m going to talk about Jews. <span style="color:#008000;">[audience erupts in laughter]</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#008000;">[Kmac laughing]</span> it’s not that I relish doing this, but somebody’s got to do it! And it’s definitely a subject that should be addressed. The best that we can fairly, factually and realize, we’re not talking about all Jews. We’re talking about activist Jews, we are talking about the main thrust of the organized Jewish community, which is pretty easy to figure out.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2692-edward-alsworth-ross.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone wp-image-12501" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2692-edward-alsworth-ross.jpg" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2692-edward-alsworth-ross" width="320" height="385" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#008000;">[Image] <b>Edward Alsworth Ross</b> (December 12, 1866 – July 22, 1951) was an <a style="color:#008000;" title="United States" href="http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/United_States">American</a> <a style="color:#008000;" title="Sociology" href="http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Sociology">sociologist</a>, one of first sociologists who pursued a comprehensive sociological theory. Regarded as a founder of sociology in the <a style="color:#008000;" title="United States" href="http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/United_States">United States</a>, he believed that the purpose of sociology was to bring about social reform, solving problems in human society. </span></p>
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<p>The fact is, the beginning in the 19th century Jews often saw America as a promised land. Whose, quote, “<em>streets are paved with gold</em>” as they often wrote to their families back in Europe. Paved with gold. Jews were therefore staunch advocates of unrestricted immigration. Writing in 1914 University of Wisconsin sociologist, <strong>Edward A Ross</strong> believed that a very liberal immigration policy was exclusively a Jewish issue. And he quoted the prominent author and Zionist pioneer, <strong>Israel Zangwill</strong>, who articulated the idea that America is an ideal place to achieve Jewish interests. Quote, he said:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>America has ample room for all the six million Russian Jews. [audience laughter] Any one of her States could absorb them and next to having a country of their own there could be no better fate for them to be in a country. Land of civil and religious liberty, of whose constitution Christianity formed no part and where their collective votes were practically guarantee them against future persecution.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Again, that was 1914.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2693-israel-zangwill-on-the-front-cover-of-22time22.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone wp-image-12502" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2693-israel-zangwill-on-the-front-cover-of-22time22.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2693-israel-zangwill-on-the-front-cover-of-%22time%22" width="400" height="534" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#008000;">[Image] Israel Zangwill on the front cover of &#8220;<strong><em>Time</em></strong>&#8221; magazine, 1923.</span></p>
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<p>Zangwill, who was the author of a famous play called “<strong><em>The Melting Pot</em></strong>” that premiered in 1908, here in Washington D.C., the heart of American political culture. What’s interesting is his idea that America was a land where all the old ethnic hatreds would be abolished in a grand symphony of ethnic harmony.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] <span class="Apple-style-span">Cover of Theater Programme for Israel Zangwill&#8217;s play &#8220;<strong><em>The Melting Pot</em></strong>&#8220;.</span></span></p>
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<p>We’ve heard that a few times!</p>
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<p>In the play, a Jewish immigrant fleeing Russian pogroms comes to America, writes a great symphony and marries a Christian woman. Audiences were wildly enthusiastic. There were cries, a quote from an academic paper. There were cries for Zangwill after every scene and <strong>President Teddy Roosevelt</strong> himself joined the applause. During the play he sat next to Mrs Zangwill and positively raved. When Zangwill took his bows afterward, the President shouted across the room, “<em>That’s a great play Mr Zangwill!</em>”</p>
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<p>Throughout the drama the main Jewish character argues that the United States is a land of universal love and brotherhood. He sees it as a place where all the divisions among men will soon disappear:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Within the stirring and seething in the vast cauldron, the great alchemist was melting Celt and Latin, Slav and Teutons, Greek and Syrian, Black and Yellow. He was fusing together East and West, North and South, pole and equator, Crescent and Cross</em>” end of quote.</p></blockquote>
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<p>So you see what he’s getting at here, Crescent and Cross, Black, Yellow, White all coming together in beautiful harmony. And, of course, this is fifty years after the Civil War.</p>
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<p>The reception given the play, and remember this is over a century ago, that this image appealed to many Americans, including many prominent Americans, like President Roosevelt. Of course it didn’t appeal to all Americans. This is a period when actually most Americans opposed continuing this unrestricted immigration policy. And Jewish organizations were doing the best they could to keep the doors open, which they did do until 1924.</p>
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<p>Immigration restriction was, in fact, picking up steam in no small part because many Jewish immigrants were on the politically radical left.</p>
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<p>Professor Ross went on to discuss the endeavor of Jews to control the immigration policy of the United States:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>The systematic campaign in newspapers and magazines to break down all arguments for restriction and to calm nativists fears as waged by and for one race. Hebrew money is behind the main anti-restrictionist league and it’s numerous publications. From the favorable ??? The commercial body, or the scientific association, to the heavy treatises produced by the aid of the Baron de Hirst Fund, the work that proves the blessings of immigration to all classes in America emanates from subtle Hebrew brains.</i>” End of quote.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Nothing much has changed in the last century, except that someone like Professor Ross would have a terrible time in today’s academic world.</p>
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<p>Jews were correct that America did indeed hold great promise as a place where Jews could thrive. And part of that was about who we are, the, the “<i>goyim</i>” <span style="color:#008000;">[audience laughter and clapping]</span>, us! There’s a very long liberal tradition in America, going back, most importantly to the Puritan strand of American culture that dominated America really until the 1960s and the rise of Jewish power. This tradition prized individualism, which I think has an ethnic basis. Individuals are relatively less ethnocentric, they tend towards assimilating other groups rather than erecting strong barriers between groups. Hence the appeal of Zangwill’s play. He knew what buttons to push.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2764-equal-rights-and-citizenship.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone wp-image-12546" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2764-equal-rights-and-citizenship.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2764-equal-rights-and-citizenship" width="450" height="504" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] Citizenship and equal rights.</span></p>
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<p>And important strand of this type of American individual had been to develop wildly optimistic theories of the American future. Liberal theories of the nineteenth century saw a future America as dominated by people who looked and thought exactly like themselves. Even people of different races would ultimately become White Anglo-Saxon, and Protestant, no matter what their racial religious background. Or as Zangwill proposes, it is actually quite a bit different. The idea that all Americans come together and meld into one great race.</p>
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<p>Of course now we have multiculturalism. But that continues it’s optimistic trajectory. Americans are supposed to remain optimistic that this is all going to work out as Hilary often said, “<i>stronger together</i>” right? We’re going to continue to just keep going and things are going to turn out, &#8230; There maybe some problems, you know, it’s going to all work out.</p>
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<p>Zangwill obviously understood how to appeal to American optimism about the future, even though his own views were strongly Zionist. And he saw the Jewish religion as not only morally superior, but also as a way of preserving the purity of their race, as they call it. And, of course, we see a lot of contemporary Zangwills in the media and the academic world.</p>
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<p>If indeed America is a promised land for Jews, a large part of the credit must go to Jews themselves for using their power in the media and the educational system to campaign against nativism while retaining their own strong ethnic commitments, and for creating the image of America as a, quote, “<i>land of immigrants</i>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2792-lothrop-stoddard-quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12615" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2792-lothrop-stoddard-quote.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2792-lothrop-stoddard-quote" width="500" height="326" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] <strong>Lothrop Stoddard</strong> (June 29, 1883– May 1, 1950), was an American political theorist, historian, eugenicist, and anti-immigration advocate who wrote a number of prominent books on race. Stoddard was born in Brookline, Massachusetts in 1883 to a prominent New England family. He attended Harvard College, graduating magna cum laude in 1905, and studied Law at Boston University until 1908. Stoddard received a Ph.D. in History from Harvard University in 1914, and was also an avid stamp collector. He published many books on the peril of non-White immigration, his most famous being <strong><em>The Rising Tide of Color</em></strong> in 1920. In this book he presented a view of the world situation pertaining to race focusing concern on the coming population explosion among non-Whites in the Third World.</span></p>
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<p>Jews therefore did not create this liberal tradition in America, but they very quickly discovered how do appeal to it as the reception given to Zangwill’s play shows. And they fought hard against non liberal views on America, particularly views associated with the American South, where separation between the races had become the norm by 1908. And also against theorists like <strong>Madison Grant</strong>, <strong>Lothrop Stoddard</strong>, and so on. They were very much influenced by Charles Darwin’s <em>Theory of Evolution</em> and so on. After World War Two anti-Darwinian Jewish intellectuals became a dominant elite in American universities and in the media. Most noteworthy was the <strong>Frankfurt School&#8217;s</strong> claim that ethnocentrism among Whites was a psychiatric disorder! <span style="color:#008000;">[audience booing]</span> Very influential. This scene was quickly picked up by Jewish activists, organizations with access to the schools and the media and, of course, it continues today.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2698-madison-grant-with-quote-ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12509" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2698-madison-grant-with-quote-ver-2.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2698-madison-grant-with-quote-ver-2" width="500" height="319" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#008000;">[Image] <strong>Madison Grant</strong></span></p>
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<p>I wrote a chapter, showing that Jews were the main force, and a necessary condition, I think, for the 1965 immigration law that opened up immigration to all the peoples of the world. But Jewish support for immigration and multiculturalism creates obvious problems for Jews. One example is immigration of Muslims. Many of whom are hostile to Jews and hostile to Israel. And once they get here they often make alliances with these White social activists who are also critical of Israel.</p>
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<p>The situation is particularly acute in the U.K., although it’s just a matter of time before a critical mass of Muslims in the US leads to similar patterns. In the U.K. you’ve got Jeremy Corbyn’s Labor Party is absolutely dependent on Muslim votes and Jewish money. But Jewish money has been deserting the party as Labor takes an ever more critical view of Israel. The same process is brewing in the US, but it will take a while longer. Right now, only a bare majority of Democrats actually favor Israel, 53% compared to 23% favoring the Palestinians. Compared to the Republicans which is 79 to 7  <span style="color:#008000;">[percent]</span>, much more lopsided. And, of course, that explains why Donald Trump would have been foolish indeed to criticize Israel.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2774-the-center-for-american-progress.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12554" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2774-the-center-for-american-progress.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2774-the-center-for-american-progress" width="500" height="313" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] “<i>The Center for American Progress is an independent nonpartisan policy institute that is dedicated to improving the lives of all Americans, through bold, progressive ideas, as well as strong leadership and concerted action. Our aim is not just to change the conversation, but to change the country.</i>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><b>Source</b>: https://www.americanprogress.org/about/mission/</span></p>
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<p>As usual Jewish money talks. It should surprise no one that the far left <strong>Center for American Progress</strong> hosted far right Israeli ethno-nationalist Benjamin Netanyahu with a softball interview. And <strong>Wiki Leaks</strong> showed that this action resulted in new members of the board of directors. The implication being that they came up, he came up, with a large donation. The result is someone who supports the nationalist right in Israel is on board with the Center for American Progress in the United States. So we certainly won’t expect the Center for American Progress to take a principled stand on Israel.</p>
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<p>As Philip Weiss notes, Jewish money is critical to the Democrats and a big reason is supporting Israel. He cites Jeffrey Goldberg saying that the Democratic Party is divided between the progressive rank and file who have had it with Israel, and the donor class which is, quote, “<em>disproportionately Jewish and has been so for many years</em>”. And it’s sort of the same, or sort of similar to the Republican Party with a similar gap between the rank and file and the donor class, but on very different issues.</p>
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<p>For example, the top five donors to Clinton were Jews. “<b><i>Forward</i></b>” editor J. J. Goldberg said, quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>You ask a Democratic fundraiser, where did he get the money from? Well, from trial lawyers, from toys, from generic drugs, from Hollywood, from Jews. Those are all essentially Jewish industries. When you’re raising money you need to find rich people, who are not right-wing and they are not, pardon me for saying this, are not many rich goyim who are not right-wing.</i>” end quote.</p></blockquote>
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<p>This is another example that Jews fund the Left and that has been going on, probably for forever, you know, decades!</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2773-keith-ellison-with-bernie-sanders.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12551" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2773-keith-ellison-with-bernie-sanders.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2773-keith-ellison-with-bernie-sanders" width="500" height="359" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] Sen. Bernie Sanders is flanked by Rep. Keith Ellison, left, and Imam Talib Shareet at an event at The Nation’s Mosque, in Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2015.</span></p>
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<p>But it’s a mixed picture! The times are changing! And it’s a good sign of this, is that both Bernie Sanders, it’s really interesting, and Israel Lobby stalwart, Chuck Schumer are both supporting Keith Ellison. This Muslim black activist congressman from Minnesota as head of the Democratic National Committee. Even though he’s been a strong critic of Israel. He called Israel an apartheid state. It’s amazing!</p>
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<p>And even many Jewish donors are discontinuing their support for Israel because of it’s policies. According to Stephen Cohen a very prominent Jewish demographer, Where they used to say, “<i>I don’t like Israeli policies, but I love Israel</i>” it is now affecting their commitment to Israel. Being an Israeli, being liberal in support of Israel obviously sets up a lot of cognitive dissonance. But there is lots of evidence from Wiki Leaks that the Clinton campaign was exquisitely sensitive to the pro-Israel sentiments of it’s Jewish donors, including, especially someone like Haim Saban who is number one, or two. He’s a pro-Israel fanatic. He said, “<i>Israel is my only issue.</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<b>15:05]</b></span></p>
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<p>Most of the hostility towards Israel is deeply entwined with their religious identity, but among Whites, as usual, it’s all about wanting to be morally upright. In the past, much of this support for Israel has been based on a sense of moral righteousness of Israel, as a result of wall to wall propaganda for as long as I can remember. It’s the usual mantra. Israel is America’s best ally, the only democracy in the Middle East. The Israeli army is the most moral army in the world, etc. But basing the sense of righteousness on Israel is indefensible given Israel’s record of ethnic cleansing, apartheid, oppression of the Palestinians, which has resulted in very substantial international isolation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This increasing isolation and contentiousness within the Jewish community, because it really is a big issue now in the Jewish community, will continue because the oppression is so obvious that even the media can’t cover it up completely.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Fundamentally, Israel is incapable of reforming itself. We have to come to grips with how pervasive Jewish ethnocentrism is, particularly in Israel. I suspect there’s always been a tendency for the most ethnocentric Jews to move to Israel. In my 2007 review of Mearsheimer and Walt’s, “<b><i>The Israel Lobby</i></b>” I noted that Mearsheimer and Walt try to see Israel as a normal state, capable of making rational decisions. But the extremists are in charge and have been so, since at least the 1967 war.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2772-the-israel-lobby-by-mearsheimer-left-and-walt.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12549" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2772-the-israel-lobby-by-mearsheimer-left-and-walt.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2772-the-israel-lobby-by-mearsheimer-left-and-walt" width="500" height="373" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] <b><i>The Israel Lobby</i></b> by Mearsheimer (left) and Walt.</span></p>
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<p>Any attempt to make a meaningful withdraw from the West Bank and Jerusalem and allow a viable Palestinian state would produce a civil war. As throughout Jewish history the most committed members have determined which way the entire community is going to go. This is doubtless true of most groups, but is especially true with Jews. They have a very long history of fanaticism, even suicidal fanaticism, going back to the Middle Ages in the ancient world.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I reminded of Christiane Amanpour’s depiction of Jewish fanatics in their excellent TV documentary, “<b><i>God’s Jewish Warriors</i></b>”. These West Bank settlers and Jewish activists are massively ethnocentric and unlike the propaganda put out by the [Jewish] lobby, they are not at all democratic. They live in a completely Jewish world where their every thought and perception is colored by their Jewish identity. Their’s an apartheid world, separated by high walls from the Palestinian neighbors. And at a time when Americans are constantly being encouraged by Jewish organizations such as the A.D.L. to be ever more tolerant of all kinds of diversity, these people are anything, but tolerant. Calls for expropriation, expulsion of the Palestinians are common place. Israel has created a classic Middle Eastern segmentary society in which different groups live in in-group-out-group world, completely isolated from each other.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2790-palestinian-blood-on-the-hands-of-organized-jewry.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12563" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2790-palestinian-blood-on-the-hands-of-organized-jewry.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2790-palestinian-blood-on-the-hands-of-organized-jewry" width="500" height="515" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] Palestinian blood on the hands of organized jewry and its proxy power “America”.</span></p>
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<p>And since the fanatics are the ones having the children this situation will become more extreme in the future. If you look historically, Israeli governments have steadily moved to the right over the years. The present Israeli government is the most right-wing in its history, including overtly racialist cabinet members like, Avigdor Lieberman. Israel is not going to change. The fanatics will go down fighting, rather than give up the West Bank, or Jerusalem. This does not appeal to the average social justice warrior in the United States.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What I’m saying, is that a combination of Israeli intransigence, the felt need to cooperate with Muslim groups that are critical of Israel, hostility by White social justice warriors, and now even for many Jews. The relationship between Israel and the Jewish Diaspora faces difficult times and probably a transition period. In this regard it is interesting and in the wake of the election, Jewish groups are making very high-profile overtures to make cooperation with Muslim groups. And that could be what’s going on with Chuck Schumer supporting Keith Ellison for head of the D.N.C.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I realize that non-White immigration and encouraging social warrior justice mentality have been intensively advocated by Jewish organizations for decades. In a very real sense they brought this on themselves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The fact is that despite Muslim hostility and the increasingly felt need for Jews to cooperate with groups that are hostile to Israel, Jewish organizations have uniformly supported high levels of Muslim immigration and refugee gees without limit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>An obvious problem for Jews is that opposing Muslim immigration would be completely at odds with the ideology of multiculturalism and diversity. The, “<em>We are all the same</em>” mantra. The idea that immigration is a moral imperative that should not be judged by the interest of Western nations, and the idea that the nations of the West are “<em>proposition nations</em>” dedicated only to ideas like, “<em>freedom and democracy</em>” with no ethnic, or religious connotations. Obviously this was Zangwill’s view back in 1908.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<b>20:20]</b></span></p>
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<p>This ideology of America has been promoted by Jewish intellectual movements and the organized Jewish community at least since before World War Two, is a major theme of my book “<b><i>The Culture of Critique</i></b>”. Jewish organizations were unanimous in condemning Trump’s proposal for a moratorium on Muslim immigration, and has been a strong proponent of increasing Syrian and African refugees throughout the West.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Just recently I ran across a couple of paragraphs from Lawrence Auster, of course, he’s dead now, but he was a Jewish writer, very, really understood Jews in a lot of ways. He expressed the logic this way. He said:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>When Jews put together the idea that, quote, ‘all social prejudices and exclusion leads potentially to Auschwitz’ and the idea that all bigotry is individual. They must reach the conclusion that any exclusion of any group, no matter how alien it may be to the host society, is a potential Auschwitz!</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So there it is he says:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>We have identified the core Jewish conviction that makes Jews keep pushing relentlessly for mass immigration. Even the mass immigration of their deadliest enemies! In the thought process of Jews, to keep Jew hating Muslims out of America would be tantamount to preparing the way for another Jewish Holocaust!</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>End of the quote from Auster.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2789-lawrence-auster.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12560" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2789-lawrence-auster.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2789-lawrence-auster" width="500" height="486" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] A prominent jewish writer, <b>Lawrence Auster</b>. For critical commentary on Auster please see: <a href="http://age-of-treason.com/tag/lawrence-auster/">http://age-of-treason.com/tag/lawrence-auster/</a></span></p>
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<p>I also think that Jews see Whites as more of an enemy than Muslims, down the road. You know, Muslims are not a high IQ group, they’re not going to become an elite in our society. And I don’t think that Jews see them as competitors.</p>
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<p>And when they think of history, when Jews, if you ask the average Jew who has been to synagogue and learned his history from the rabbi, you know, Jewish history starts out in the world with the Romans sacking the temple. And it goes to the Middle Ages where there were expulsions. Middle ages where there was the Crusades, the Inquisition and so on. And it moves into the more modern period and you have persecution in Russia, the pogroms, and then you have the Holocaust. That’s Jewish history in a nutshell, right there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well who did all that? White people did that! Europeans did that! European civilization did that! Christianity did that! That’s the way they think about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Jewish organizations in the West have actually been aware for some time that many non-White immigrants have anti-Jewish attitudes, or at least they are much less likely be sympathetic to Jewish issues like the Holocaust, and Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One issue has been street crime against Jews, especially in Europe. And as a result Jews have been strong advocates for police state type controls on thought and behavior, to ensure Jewish security. In Germany, Belgium and really everywhere in Europe now, most everywhere, synagogues, Jewish schools and other organizations are put under constant police surveillance, even before the big recent upsurge in migration.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So an obvious upside to this low to moderate levels of Muslim hostility for Jewish organizations is that they provide a rationale for adopting policies that have long been advocated by the Jewish community, including, especially, curbs on free speech. And in particular, speech related to ethnicity and immigration. It’s no accident, for example, in Germany the migrant crisis that led to a campaign to shut down criticism of the invasion on Facebook with the full Cooperation of open borders fanatic Mark Zuckerman. Recently Twitter set up a committee which includes the A.D.L. and various social justice warriors, in order to better police it’s content and now we find that Richard Spencer and Radix, and so on, have been excluded from Twitter!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The fact is, the A.D.L. is notoriously opposed to free speech. I’ve written a couple of things on that. Not only in America, but throughout the world, wherever there’s Jewish communities. Jewish communities are opposed to free speech, especially on immigration and race.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In general, the organized Jewish community throughout the West have been a major force in placing penalties on speech related to race, ethnicity and immigration. And I do fear that in the wake of the Trump victory, that we’re going to see a major attempt to shut down discussion of the Alt-Right. That other accounts, they’re worried that the Southern Poverty Law Center wanted one hundred different accounts taken off Twitter. Well, maybe I’m on there, maybe you’re on there? There are a lot of other accounts that may well be shut down. They don’t, I think in their ideal world, they don’t want any more stories on the Alt-Right. They want to put them back in the box. I’m not sure that’s going to be possible.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<b>25:03]</b></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in short, the mainstream view among Jews remains that the transformation in the West is manageable for Jews. And if some Jews are motivated to emigrate to Israel because of street level hostility towards Jews by Muslims, this will not impact Jewish elites. In Europe they are not affected by street level crime. Wealthy, powerful Jews are not likely to leave and will continue to be a critical force in favor of the dissolution of traditional Western, of traditional European cultures and the displacement of European peoples. Jewish power and influence in the West has never rested on numbers. Western societies function much more like oligarchies than democracy as seen by the fact there are huge differences between popular attitudes and the attitudes of the elite donor class, and so on, on critical issues like immigration. In such a political structure, a tiny, but wealthy, group with access to the media can wield enormous power.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Steve Bannon saying that he would like to destroy all of today’s establishment, is heartening indeed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2768-steve-bannon.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12548" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2768-steve-bannon.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2768-steve-bannon" width="500" height="409" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] Stephen Kevin &#8220;<em>Steve</em>&#8221; Bannon (born November 27, 1953) is an American campaign manager, businessman, and media executive. He became chief executive officer of the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump in August 2016. Bannon has been named chief strategist and Senior Counselor for the Presidency of Donald Trump.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><b>Source:</b> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon</span></p>
<p><strong>Audience member:</strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah! Yeah!</span><span style="color:#008000;"> [Audience applauds]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Kmac:</strong> Because all of today’s establishment oppose Trump. From the far left to the neo-conservative right. We were the only group, the only identifiable intellectual perspective that supported Donald Trump. We should be given a seat at the table, but, &#8230; <span style="color:#008000;">[Audience applauds]</span> However, given that a major political party in the U.K. has gone in a direction not at all to the liking of the Jewish establishment, could not have done so without the aid of Muslim votes. I suspect that a change of attitude on Muslim immigration, refugee gee policy may be in the offering. Not yet. There’s definitely a point at which Jews will be forced to rethink their attitudes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Notice that such a shift would not be the result of low-level street crime against Jews that has occurred in France. This is manageable and actually it produces a lot more policing. And it actually produces some Jewish in-group solidarity when you have this kind of thing go on. They identify more as Jews and so on., but this shift will come about, because such a development hits the Jewish community where it hurts the most, at the level of political control. Because Muslim votes are having an effect at the level of power politics. The very real consequences of this for Jewish power, is indeed very worrying to the Jewish establishment.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If the U.K. is any indication, this Jewish donor base, of the Left will bail, if the Democrats adopt an anti-Israel position. They haven’t done that yet. This could result in another crisis in American politics for most Jews, which support the Republicans. But, of course, only if the Republicans retain their cuckservative globalist ways and support things like non-White immigration. However, if Donald Trump succeeds in reshaping the Republican Party — and we all hope it does — into a White populist party, this will not happen. Mainly Jewish neo-cons in the Chamber of Commerce, both of which are globalists to the core, led the Republican opposition against Trump and this will not soon be forgotten!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;">[Audience applauds]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But if the G.O.P. becomes a populous party, Jews will have a virtually unsolvable problem, having only a choice between an anti-Israel Rainbow Coalition of the Left and a White populace Right. Both with overtones of anti-Semitism. This is not a choice that they want to be forced to make.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In fact, by far the biggest problem for Jews that has been unleashed by Jewish activism in favor of immigration, multiculturalism, is that it has unleashed a rise in White identity politics, either implicitly, as among most Trump supporters, or explicitly, as among the Alt-Right, which has been the only intellectual movement supporting Trump.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Prominent Jewish writers, like Jonathan Chait, David Brooks at the <b><i>New York Times</i></b>, Paul Krugman, <b><i>New York Times</i></b>, have been very aware that, or make this claim exactly, that Trump has been successful because of White identity politics. For Chait, Trump is a reincarnation of decades old Jewish bogeyman in American politics Right wing populism. He says, the party has grown increasingly reliant upon White identity politics to supply his votes, which has left an indelible imprint, not only the Republican Party, it’s function, but also it’s form. For Brooks, Trump voters are, quote, “<i>Just going with their gene pool</i>.” A rather bald statement that Trump voters are voting <span style="color:#008000;">[in]</span> their racial interest.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">[<b>30:07]</b></span></p>
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<p>And then Paul Krugman, describing Trump voters. He said, they were voting for blood and soil patriarchy and racial hierarchy.</p>
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<p><b>Audience:</b> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah!</span> <span style="color:#008000;">[loud applause]</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-portrait.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-large wp-image-12538 aligncenter" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-portrait.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-portrait" width="500" height="619" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] Portrait of Professor Kevin MacDonald.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>Source:</strong> http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/heil-trump-this-is-the-alternative-right</span></p>
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<p><strong>Kmac:</strong> Would that be ever so! After the election Brooks predicted that the country be split into two factions, with one faction advocating ethnic separatism. Which, of course, many on the Alt-Right are already advocating. Would that were so! In other words ethnic separatism being an absolutely mainstream thing with, you know, sixty million White voters on board with it.</p>
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<p>Once White identity politics starts gaining traction, it’s only a matter of time before there is a critical mass of Whites who are dialed into the Jewish role in White dispossession, and that would, as they say, would not be good for the Jews. Psychologically, we expect that racial identity and a sense of racial interests will be more important as Whites become a minority As any psychologist would agree with that. This is especially the case that Whites are routinely subjected to hostility in the educational system, the media and so on. In a very poignant letter, this really struck ??? Actually got it on Twitter from a tweet from Radix. There’s a college student, a <a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/rise-of-the-alt-right/comment-page-1/%23comments">college Republican</a>, wrote this letter in response to an article on the American Conservative on the Alt-Right. It wasn’t a very positive article.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He says:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I am in college and nearly all of my conservative friends are at least sympathetic to the Alt-Right. Even if they don’t openly talk about it, they’re regularly browsing, <strong>The Right Stuff</strong>, <strong>Radix</strong>,<span style="color:#008000;"> [audience cheers, clapping]</span> <strong>VDare</strong>, <strong>Occidental Observer</strong> and <strong>AmRen</strong>. How did this come about as. It’s harder for older people to understand, but we younger Whites have been vilified all our lives. Throughout elementary school and high school, I was regularly demonized for being White. I attended public and Christian schools and it was even worse at the latter. And now it’s even more extreme in college. Our entire White race is regularly trashed on a daily basis. … We have the right to oppose our own dispossession and extinction – just as every other race does. It’s time for younger Whites to pick up the gauntlet because we’re the future.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#008000;">[Loud expressions of agreement from the audience, applause.]</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2781-alt-right-websites.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-large wp-image-12555 aligncenter" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2781-alt-right-websites.jpg?w=500" alt="kevin-macdonald-npi-2016-2781-alt-right-websites" width="500" height="451" /></a></p>
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<p>Now, I suspect that applies to a lot of people here. You’ve seen the hostility. When I grew up you didn’t see anti-White hostility in the schools at all. In fact, we were very proud of our culture, our history and our contributions. Not anymore. Whites tuned into the internet are also aware of greater crime, black on White crime, that sort of thing. We’re aware of affirmative action. In universities you’ve got a situation where you have these minorities that need affirmative action, blacks, Latino’s and so on and then you’ve got Asians at the top and Whites are squeezed in the middle. We really are at a huge disadvantage and it’s hitting the young people the worst. They’re the ones that are losing out here and they are the ones, I think, that are really going to be on our side. I think that’s really what’s happened with the Alt-Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Research shows that Whites who see diversity increase — there’s several recent papers on this, academic papers — tend to vote for candidates of the Right. Anxiety over those changes makes plain a lot of Trump supporters. Even if these people won’t admit it. In fact <b><i>Wall Street Journal</i></b> reported in counties in Iowa and Wisconsin a change from Obama to Trump, were in the areas of the US undergoing the fastest ethnic changes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the bottom line is that Jews remade America in their interests, constructing intellectual theories and media messages designed to make White America comfortable with massive non-White immigration and it’s own dispossession. Toward the end of Hillary’s campaign, we were treated to a constant barrage of such messages on the wonders of diversity and inclusiveness. Quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Instead of Trump’s dark and divisive vision, mine is hopeful and inclusive. Mine is big-hearted, not small-minded. It is about lifting people up, not putting them down. … It’s a vision that says, and I believe this with all my heart, we are stronger together.</em>” (Nov 1, 2016)</p></blockquote>
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<p>That was her whole pitch at the end of the election. And an awful lot of White people, most White people, did not listen to that message and that is a very good sign.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But let’s face it, 35–40% of White Americans still buy into it. Far too many. Too many Americans are suckers for idealistic, optimistic rhetoric, full of lofty moralism and entreaties for empathy, and Jewish activists have known this for a long time. As our friend Israel Zangwill said to a Jewish audience in opposition to the immigration restriction law of 1924:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>You must make a fight against this bill; tell them they are destroying American ideals</em>”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, Zangwill knew exactly what buttons to push. That these are idealistic people. Tell them they’re violating their ideals.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<b>35:23]</b></span></p>
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<p>But this idealism is part of the psyche of many Whites, and engrained in our culture, blasted out 24/7 by the media and the educational system. Interviews with White protesters horrified by Trump’s victory shows their extreme sense of moral superiority and moral fervor and their genuine belief in the glorious rainbow, kumbaya future of America.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We have to understand these White people and convince them of the moral righteousness of our cause. We have to make them realize that their idealism is suicidal in this situation.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#008000;"><a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/mogv-part-05-2488-a-poster-of-leon-trotsky-as-director-of-the-red-terror.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-11676 aligncenter" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/mogv-part-05-2488-a-poster-of-leon-trotsky-as-director-of-the-red-terror.jpg?w=500" alt="mogv-part-05-2488-a-poster-of-leon-trotsky-as-director-of-the-red-terror" width="500" height="671" /></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] Jewish &#8220;<em>intellectuals</em>&#8220;, like Trotsky, with their Communist &#8220;<em>utopias</em>&#8221; murdered tens of millions.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Multiculturalism is the contemporary version of utopian Marxist rhetoric that was pushed by three generations of Jewish intellectuals: Even after millions of murders and the incarceration of many more millions, they preached that we can look forward to a future this utopian future of a classless society. Now we’re supposed to look forward to the future of blissful ethnic harmony. Despite the long bloody history of ethnic conflict around the world. As with communism these utopias ultimately fail because they’re not based on scientific views of human nature, or on social science research on the costs and consequences of multiculturalism for native populations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The end result of this Jewish activism has been White flight away from the diversity, the beginnings of a police state, restrictions on free speech and an upsurge of implicit White identity politics. And an urgent need to create an explicitly White identity politics of the Alt-Right. This activism is also resulted in increased conflict — conflict that could ultimately lead to civil war. The protests following trumps the election may only be the beginning. We are entering a very dangerous period. And we can only hope that Donald Trump will actually live up to the expectations of those who voted for him.</p>
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<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;">[Loud, long applause from the audience.]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Richard:</strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Before I start speaking, I think it would be a good idea to do two things. A brief, say ten minute Q &amp; A with Kevin. Also if you need to use the restroom, if you want to refill your drink before the final speech of the night, this would be a good time to do it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So, if you have any questions please line up here.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’m curious, Kevin, about the psychology of you could say, contemporary Jewish consciousness. Of the one traditional way that people in our movement have been critical of Jews, is that it’s a kind of “<em>nationalism for me, but not for thee</em>”. So, “<em>I am an Israeli, I’m an Israeli identitarian, however you Americans must be open and multicultural and so on</em>”. Don’t you think that there is the “<em>Jon Stewart</em>” type Jew that seems to, in a way, genuinely imbibed their own poison? You could say, and that there might be something, some kind of change. I mean, if you look at Jon Stewart over the ten year period, whatever you want to say about him, he was actually the most openly anti-Israel commentator in the mainstream media. And, you know, you could figure out ways to explain that, but there’s something, there seems to be something going on.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Kmac:</strong> I think that’s very true. And there are quite, as I was trying to say, there’s a lot of contentiousness down in the Jewish community about Israel. You’ve got web sites, say Mondoweiss, I read that all the time. Very critical of Israel. And they’re very Jewish though. They are trying to identify as Jews. They view themselves as progressive. You’ve got Jewish Forces for Peace and so on. It does exist. And as say, before it really didn’t have an impact on the donors class and so on, and the Democratic Party, but it’s starting to. As Cohen, the demographer was saying, that’s a serious issue.</p>
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<p>You know, and the whole boycott divestment sanction thing, very serious now.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<b>40:00]</b></span></p>
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<p>So I think that there are these poles now in the Jewish community. They are very upset and, you know, discombobulated here, there’s a lot of contention there. There’s real contention and it’s not easily solvable. It’s not easily solvable. You can’t square the circle on this one. Because as I said, Israel is not going to change. It’s not going to say, “<i>OK we’ll go back to 1967 borders</i>”. It is not going to happen. Give it up! And one of the big things that they were happy about Trump is that he’s even insisting on that. You know, that’s a big deal. So, Israel is going to be what it is. It is going to continue. Just recently the Israeli government approved something where they could take, they could expropriate more Palestinian land, just take it away! Given some money and then move the sellers on. Make make these outposts that have been illegal. Israel is not going to change. But, American Jews have increasing cognitive dissonance, increasing tension with the social justice warriors in the Left. Something has to give here! It can’t continue like that.</p>
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<p><b>Audience member (male): </b><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now, have you looked into, do you think that a large part of the strategy against us, is dumbing us down from young childhood using the mass media, cartoons for education? I mean, you said there are more afraid of intelligent goyim, White, intelligent Whites, than they are of violent Muslims who are less intelligent.</span></p>
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<p><b>Kmac: </b>Well, yeah I did. There’s a sort of dumbing down. I would characterize it even more as propaganda. I think the schools now, are wall to wall, you know, their teaching materials for kindergarten, the Holocaust and so on! And so it’s pervasive! And what’s amazing is so many young people are getting out and they’re rejecting it pretty quickly. I mean even in 2012 Mitt Romney, a majority of Whites eighteen to twenty nine voted for Romney and not Obama. And this year the same kind of thing happened. So young Whites are not, you know, entirely molded by the educational system. The ones we see on TV breaking windows in Portland and that kind of thing, they’re not the majority I don’t think.</p>
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<p><b>Audience member (male): </b><span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah, I wonder if you could just comment on two things.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">One is the legitimate concern of Muslim immigration to Western countries. But the danger of that just being hijacked by the Zionists and used for their purposes. And, the other thing is the whole fundamentalist Christian Zionist thing. I mean we used to have people like Father Coughlin and Gerald K. Smith. Christianity was not, you know, Christian Zionism. And what do you think about the chances of a return, or a split in Christianity to get back to the kind of Christians that those people were?</span></p>
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<p><b>Kmac:</b> Yeah, two questions. The first one I agree that, you know, Islamic terrorism and so on, has been used by Jews. They advocate restrictions on free speech, increased police surveillance and all that. Protection for synagogues, greater security. And that’s happened throughout Europe and is happening in this country. One more Supreme Court justice so they can, you know, had Clinton had gotten in, then that would have been the end of the First Amendment, I think. So, there’s no question it plays into their hands and you, &#8230; You have all these activists like Pamela Geller, you know, hates Muslims and all this stuff. But, you know, she’s really motivated by Zionism. She’s a strong, strong Zionist. That’s her whole motivation. And it plays into that and, you know, it’s easy to, you know, to generate hate, xenophobia and so on, one when there is so much terrorism from them. So it really works for them. Christian Zionists, these guys are patsies and the organized Jewish community has seen that for a long time. And a lot of the organizations, the Christian Zionist Organization is actually run by Jews, and funded by Jews.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/circus-maximus-interview-rainer-2042-the-scofield-reference-bible.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone wp-image-10435" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/circus-maximus-interview-rainer-2042-the-scofield-reference-bible.jpg" alt="Circus Maximus Interview Rainer - 2042 The Scofield Reference Bible" width="350" height="494" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] The <em><strong>Scofield Bible</strong></em></span></p>
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<p>The whole <strong><em>Scofield Bible</em></strong> is a very interesting story, how that came about. Oxford University Press, Jewish influence getting it published. And a lot of that, and then you had the prestige of Oxford University. It became very, very popular. And you read it and it’s a Zionist tract! You look at all the footnotes and it would have been written by Herzl, or some some radical Zionist! I mean it’s an amazing document. But that’s forming the thinking of an awful lot of American Christians. But the good news is they didn’t, a lot of people said they were going to vote for Ted Cruz and so on in South Carolina and Texas. Well they did in Texas but not in South Carolina, which very critical! Everybody expected Cruz to win his home state, but South Carolina, everybody said that Trump can never win this. Well, the evangelicals voted for Trump! They didn’t put that first, that is a huge thing and I think we’re going forward with that.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<b>45:02]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Audience member (male): </b><span style="color:#0000ff;">Hi Kevin. It’s an honor to ask you a question. My parents immigrated to the US from Israel. My dad was a paratrooper in 67 to 73, and I was raised there very Zionist. Today, the Lukid is kind of left-wing for me. [laughing]</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">First of all I want to say I really love your work. I read the Occidental Observer very regularly.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I really agree with you that this is, we’re at the cusp of a paradigm shift and something needs to change. And that the Jews are still in this mood where they think they can continue this sort of neo-con mass immigration thing, which is imploding on itself, as we speak.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I would really like to promote a sort of disconnection between the US and Israel because, on one hand, yes, we get aid, we get a foreign policy that’s tailored to our interests. On the other hand, America seems, and not under Donald Trump — that’s one of the reasons I like him in foreign policy. I think he’s going to have a very hands off approach and I want a hands off approach. I’d like to change the attitudes of Jews, but it’s not easy, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Kmac: </b>It’s not easy, no, &#8230;</p>
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<p><b>Audience member (male): </b><span style="color:#0000ff;">We’re a stiff neck people! But in some ways, you know, us better than we know ourselves. But what do you think? What are some persuasive strategies, because honestly, I’ve tried a lot and it is absolutely true that a lot of these Jews believe the double standards. Like, maybe some of them in the elites, they understand and they still pursue it. I’ve talked to many young Jews who were campaigning for Hillary Clinton and they really don’t even understand that their views are totally hypocritical!</span></p>
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<p><b>Kmac: </b>And that is amazing and I think there’s a high, &#8230; <span style="color:#008000;">[Audience applause]</span> I’ve been been corresponding by email with this gentleman, very interesting.</p>
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<p>And, yeah, there’s a lot of hypocrisy and I actually had a chapter on Jewish self-deception and I think it happens. If you are extremely ethnocentric you just can’t see [your] behavior in any kind of bad light, and so on. It’s very hard to change their views on things. I am worried about Trump’s Israel policies. He talks about moving the embassy to Jerusalem, talked about, I guess Huckabee is going to be ambassador, he’s a Christian Zionist. He’s gung-ho for Israel. And that is not good. Steve Bannon is partying with the Zionist Organization of America. These guys are radical!</p>
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<p>And he also, you know, he’s associated with David Horowitz. So it suggests that he really is sort of an intense kind of neo-con, kind of guy. And I don’t know where they got idea the he’s anti-Semitic. Weird! I worry much more that he is the reverse.</p>
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<p>No, he’s too philosemitic and will not have a reasonable idea of what America’s interests are in the Middle East. So, I don’t, &#8230; It’s really a tough, a tough job to think about what we can do to convince Jews. I’ve been thinking about that for a long time! I don’t have any clues on that! [Laughing]</p>
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<p>Thank you.<span style="color:#008000;"> [Audience applauds]</span></p>
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<p><b>Audience member (male): </b><span style="color:#0000ff;">Thank you.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] Portrait of Richard Spencer.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>Source:</strong> http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/heil-trump-this-is-the-alternative-right</span></p>
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<p><b>Richard: </b><span style="color:#0000ff;">Let’s take one more question and could Sam and Bill come to the stage.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Oh, that was very gentlemanly.</span></p>
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<p><b>Audience member (female): </b><span style="color:#0000ff;">Coming from a very, very Christian background, I found it’s almost impossible to criticize Israel and discuss it with my family members or community members. And it seems that among even very, maybe right-wing, you could say, Christians, very socially conservative Christians, they cannot give up this idea that we have to defend and support Israel at all costs. And how can you argue against that in a way that they would understand?</span></p>
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<p><b>Kmac:</b> That’s a problem and, you know, it’s embedded in this religious ideology and as everybody knows, we’re talking about Jews. But true Christians too, it’s very hard to make religious arguments opposed to what someone believes. There are a couple of people who have written to sort of address within their worldview and language. That’s not me. But they’ve tried to do that, and maybe that is what you have to do. You have to take a religious point of view yourself. And try to, you know, get into their way of thinking, you know, in a way I wouldn’t unsettle them. Because, yeah, I mean it’s dramatic. As I said, seventy nine to seven percent support of Republicans supporting Israel. And Donald Trump, you know, he’s a politician, you simply can’t ignore that. You’re not going to go out and criticize Israel. You’d be crazy to do that. But, you know, there’s a long history where presidents, you know, say all kinds of things in the campaign and then they back out. Obama was a great example. You know, serious Jews hate Obama, because he, you know, seemed to back up and a lot of them called him Israel’s greatest enemy and all that. Which is a bit over the top but, you know, he certainly didn’t do what the Israel lobby wanted. And I think that’s because he’s one of these Zionist leftists, he’s a social justice warrior, he has a little problem with what they’re doing the Palestinians. And so he, you know, he’s sort of honest in that regard.</p>
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<p>But, I don’t know how to convince these people. I’ve written a couple of things, but it’s just, it’s not going to appeal to them. Certainly.</p>
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<p><b>Richard: </b><span style="color:#0000ff;">Thank you Kevin.</span></p>
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