Peter Whittle: Hello, welcome to So What You’re Saying Is. I’m Peter Whittle. Now, I’m delighted that my guest this week is one of our newest young commentators. Poppy Coburn is a journalist and writer and she’s currently working at TV News, but she has been in the Telegraph most recently. Before that she was working at Unheard. Thank you very much for coming.

 

Poppy Coburn: Thank you for having me.

 

Peter Whittle: No, it’s lovely to see you. I have to say one of the reasons I want to speak to you is because you wrote a superb piece in this Telegraph recently about immigration, and I thought it was actually quite a brave piece. Can you start by just telling us the gist of that piece?

 

Poppy Coburn: Yeah, of course. So the reason I wrote it is, obviously this is a very difficult time for the Conservative Party. So I think most of what you’re hearing in the media is about kind of the economic packages that Truss and Kwarteng have been putting forward, arguments over the future of leveling up, whether or not the labor threats going to be happening, foreign policy issues.

 

But there’s one thing that’s really been ignored, and it’s been ignored for quite a few years, and that’s immigration! And I think the real reason that immigration has been ignored, something I bring up in the piece, is that after we won the Brexit referendum, after the Leave vote won, people kind of assume that we were in safe hands.

 

We know that public opinion has shown that consistently, people vote for governments that are saying we will have lower immigration. All of the polling supports this. 70% of Conservative voters have said that they want to limit immigration under 100,00 a year. This is something that Mattie Goodwin’s done some polling on recently.

And I did a little bit of digging. And if you go through the manifestos of every successful government in the past 30 years, each manifesto says:

 

“We pledge to reduce the number of immigrants.”

 

And every government since then has increased the numbers! So this is a gigantic demographic change that has been done entirely without public consent.

 

And I think if we do see the polls being correct that the Conservative government is going to be wiped out the next election, perhaps too early to say, but it’s looking likely. I think there’s going to be a lot of soul searching done on behalf of Conservative activists which said:

 

“We’ve been government for twelve years, and every promise we have held on immigration, we failed on!”

 

And I don’t think it’s something that can be ignored anymore. I think this is a real area of policy that anybody who is passionate about, not even just Conservative policies, but about democracy, about people being heard, you have to focus on this! You can’t put it to the side anymore. So that’s what really prompted me to start writing about this.

 

Peter Whittle: In a way, what you’re saying, of course, sort of can’t be denied. But what is your own personal feeling about it? I mean, do you think that it is also one of the most important issues facing the country?

 

Poppy Coburn: I’d say it’s the existential issue! I would say it is the existential issue of our time. It’s something that I would say personally, I’m deeply invested in.

 

Peter Whittle: Why?

 

Poppy Coburn: I would say the reason behind that is something you never really hear this discussed in media, right? But if you’re a young person growing up in Britain today, things aren’t looking very good for you and I think one of the major reasons you can draw that back to is immigration.

 

So I’m a graduate, I graduated last year. That puts me at the marginal rate of tax, same level as a top earner. So, top city banker, I’m paying the same marginal rate of tax as he is. And I knew that, you know, when I joined up to university.

 

But then you start to think:

 

“Well, why are we paying all this money for our university education?”

 

Now, you can draw that back to immigration. Post 1992, when the university is liberalised. This was a big Blairite push. We’re going to get 50% of all young people going to university. This is a big social reform. And that was done. And then the justification was given:

 

“Well, now we have so many students, they’re going to have to pay their own way.”

 

Now, it’s increasingly becoming clear that a lot of these post 90, 92 universities are not providing the level of educational benefit that they’re promising to students. Right?

 

So you think, well, how are these universities staying open? Surely there can’t be enough people going to them. So I did a little bit of research and I’ve actually written a piece on it. Should be coming out soon. And I focused in on two universities.

 

So one was Middlesex, one was Bedfordshire, bottom of their league tables. Now, they both take around a third of their student body are foreign students, coming from abroad. And 75% of their students are postgraduates.

 

They also both offer one year Master’s courses, very, very cheap, under £10,000. Now, why are people taking these Masters courses?

 

Well, they’re coming here, right, because if you do a Master’s course for a year, you get a two year study visa. This was liberalized under Boris Johnson. You can bring dependents along as well. And through that back channel, people are entering the country, right? So this is one way in which young people are paying for this, because we’re paying to prop up these universities. Our fees are literally going to prop up these universities that should no longer exist, that are not doing what they’re saying on the tin.

 

Now, another thing I’ve noticed, I’ve moved to London, like so many other young people looking for work. And I would say about half of my wages go on rent. We have a serious housing crisis in the country. I consider myself to be like a yumby [?], I want there to be more housing developed, but it’s a very fraughtful political issue.

 

And everybody I’ve spoken to on this issue who will say:

 

“Yes, we’ve got this housing crisis.”

 

I will say:

 

“Well, that’s in part because of immigration, right?”

 

“Oh, well, no, that doesn’t play a part.”

 

But of course it plays a part! I mean, last year, for the first time ever, we gave out more than a million visas! By social and economic means, people tend to concentrate in cities and they migrate. Of course there’s competition there. Nobody’s really making these links, where immigration is not just something about boosting GDP. It affects every aspect of life! It affects the NHS, the Welfare State, education, all of these things! And nobody seems to be talking about it.

 

Peter Whittle: I fully agree with your analysis, your frustration, actually about it. Because I remember when I saw the London Assembly, housing would come up all the time. And it was clear as a bell that if London was at that time, the population was increasing exponentially, and there was not enough housing, but nobody would talk about what you might call the demand side. It was always the supply side. Should we be on brownfield sites or not?

 

It was never about the fact that obviously if you’ve got a massively increasing population.

 

But when you say people say:

 

“Oh, well, no, it’s not really to do that.”

 

Are you talking about people in the political sphere, or your peer group? Because it seems to me there’s a kind of denial, apart from everywhere else in the country, it seems to me, they all seem to understand these things.

 

Poppy Coburn: I mean, to be honest with you, I think there is this generalization of my generation, which would be generation Z, which say, we’re already, you know, woke, Left wing, whatever you want to call it. I don’t necessarily think that’s true. I think that is a generalization. And I think that you’re going to start to see as more people are graduating and going into the workforce and thinking:

 

“I haven’t got good prospects, I haven’t got much money, and I’ve got this government that just seems totally uninterested in me.”

 

How can you then be surprised that people are moving towards more radical ideologies?

 

I mean, people feel that they’ve got no stake in the country.

 

Peter Whittle: Yeah.

 

Poppy Coburn: And that’s why, when I wrote in this piece, we really can’t ignore the role that the Conservative government has played in creating this immigration crisis. We’ve had twelve years of Conservative government.

 

David Cameron, in his manifesto, 2010, before he got into power, he wrote that he wanted to take immigration levels back to what they were in the in the 90s. In the 90s we had immigration levels that were about 10,000 or so net, every year. And a Blair, they hit about 200,000, net every year.

 

Cameron gets elected and liberalizes immigration policy again. There’s no reduction in numbers. No reduction. There’s an increase in numbers! Same thing for Teresa May happened. But Theresa May at least still keeps up the:

 

“Well, we’re going to try and bring numbers down, and we’re going to try and do it through the hostile environment policy.”

 

And then you get Brexit, and post Brexit deal, Boris Johnson.

 

Boris Johnson pretty much just says:

 

“You know what? We obviously aren’t going to do anything about this. We’re coasting on our reputation as Bre excite rs.”

 

So people, voters, naively assumed that their concerns would be listened to.

 

And what I mentioned before about that educational mobilization of student visas, that was done under Boris Johnson! This is supposed to be our Brexit leader. I mean, let’s not beat around the bush here. People voted for Brexit to take back control! Take back control of their borders!

 

Peter Whittle: They’re kind of recalibrating. So that control actually means, it doesn’t mean less, that’s what they’re now saying. It means that we actually are making the decisions, which is entirely different! You can say that’s controlling. But in fact they’re controlling it in the way that it’s utterly opposed to how most people thought it was going to be.

 

I mean, when people look at this, you’ve given us a survey of all those years. When people look at it, you can understand why people start to wonder:

 

“What is going on here, actually? Why? Why will they not? Why indeed are they increasing?”

 

What would you say to them?

 

Poppy Coburn: Well, there are two arguments for this. I’ve seen a lot of people say that there’s the economic belief that immigration brings all of these economic benefits to the country. Now, I’ve written about this before. If immigration is such “economic rocket fuel”, well, then why have we been in a 15 year productivity slump?

 

And one of the reasons for that is the thing is when you are importing a lot of low and middle skilled migrants, it creates this perverse incentive for companies not to invest in capital. And you’re really starting to see the consequences of that now. So the UK is really lagging behind many other EU member states in terms of our investment in technology. And this is something that economists have really started to point out and you can actually see a direct link to our massive upswing in immigration and reduction in capital investment. There’s a very clear relationship there.

 

So, you know, you can kind of back that aside and say that there are economic arguments against immigration. The government knows this, I think they know this, I would say that it is more justified in their mind as a “social good”. They see it as almost a humanitarian act.

 

Because if they were looking at this as something we need to do to boost the economy, well, then we would have something like the Singapore Visa system, which is half. If you are in Singapore with a work visa, if you leave your job, in seven days, you’re out! You have to leave the country! Workers don’t have, almost no rights at all. They’re considered foreign residents, they live in barracks on the outside of town. That is, their immigration system, certainly boosts their economy. That’s certainly not what we’re doing here.

 

I think they are, Truss in particular, and Boris Johnson, these are libertarians. They believe in immigration as a social good! And they are very out of step with what the average voter thinks. But I think they’ve been dishonest. I think they have got by for a very long time on saying one thing, and doing another. And that’s not how politics works.

 

Peter Whittle: I think when people talk about an ideologically based government, it’s hard to disagree, because apparently most voters now are round about, Leftwards economically, and then on cultural issues more to the Right. Libertarians are exactly the way around in a way. And I feel that they don’t even really care so much. Even when you come to the kind of cohesion arguments, the culture arguments, they don’t care, do they?

 

Poppy Coburn: Well, then we can bring up the example of what’s been going on in Leicester, in the last couple of weeks. This is a very clear example of failure, of integration. This is inevitable! This is what happens when you have unrestrained immigration, and you allow people to settle in areas where they are not properly integrated, where they have no interest in integrating. Nor so does local government have any interest in integrating.

 

I mean, a lot of the problem with Leicester was sectarian violence. And if you could see some of the videos on social media, you see police officers kind of stand to the side, while people are shouting Hindu and Muslim sectarian slogans. And they are carrying out essentially ethnic battles from the Indian subcontinent in Leicester! How can you not say that that is something that is concerning for local people? I mean, of course it is.

 

Peter Whittle: I think it’s something as well that’s going to increase, actually.

 

Poppy Coburn: Absolutely! Absolutely!

 

Peter Whittle: There’s no question about that this is obviously a huge issue, but is it something that you’ve been interested in for a long time? And when did you get interested in politics, then? Actually?

 

Poppy Coburn: Well, I think I’ve always been quite political, but you may find it slightly surprising. At university I was a very big environmental activist.

 

Peter Whittle: Now, I’ve heard of “little bird stop”. You were in Extinction Rebellion, is that right?

 

Poppy Coburn: I [chuckling] was!

 

Peter Whittle: We should go through that.

 

Poppy Coburn: So I went to Cambridge. So I matriculated in 2018. As soon as I joined, first thing I did was turning up to a group called “Cambridge Zero Carbon”. And it was essentially, it was an Extinction Rebellion, but as a university society. So I spent a lot of time going on Marches, being really involved in kind of Left leaning student politics.

 

So I’ve always been political. But my political opinions have evolved. I was a very big supporter of Jeremy Corbyn. I was absolutely devastated the night he lost the election. I actually described it as being one of the worst nights of my life.

 

Peter Whittle: Really?

 

Poppy Coburn: Yes!

 

Peter Whittle: That’s quite a journey, in a short space of time, I suppose?

 

Poppy Coburn: Yes, it is, I suppose. But there have been certain things that I’ve always, you know. I’ve always been populist. I’ve always supported Brexit, for one. I consider myself to be a Bre excite are, but I’ve always supported that. I’ve always backed people I’ve considered to be antiestablishment insurgents, people offering something fresh to British government. I’ve never liked the kind of Westminster lobby types. I think they are at fault for a lot of the decline we’ve seen in the last couple of decades. So I have jumped, certainly like cs.

 

Peter Whittle: Like in being in the environmentalist movement and Extinction Rebellion, because it’s pretty much always in the news now. But we just had this incident with one of the activists cs.

 

Poppy Coburn: Captain Tom.

 

Peter Whittle: Yes. Defiling the monument of Captain Tom Moore, with excrement. I mean, did you meet people like that?

 

Poppy Coburn: It’s funny that you mentioned this, because I’ve kind of been thinking about this in the past couple of days. And I was seeing this back when I was doing my activism. So this was a couple of years ago, it would have been about 2018, 2019. And what you were seeing were increasingly groups were splitting away from mainstream environmental groups like Extinction Rebellion, and they wanted something more radical.

 

And what you have to understand is the mindset of these people and myself at that time, when you are being told the world is going to end, you start to think:

 

“Well, if the world’s going to end, why are we just satting about on a bridge somewhere blocking cars? We should be doing something far more extreme!”

 

Now, prior to 2001, the 9/11 attacks, the most monitored terrorist groups were environmental groups. They were considered to be the greatest threat. Then for a few decades, it was the threat of Islamist terrorism. But I think in the next decade or so, we’re going to start to see environmental terrorism going back to the top.

 

So I think that particular example of the obviously very mentally disturbed young woman doing that, protest against, protests, if you can even call it that, I think you’re going to start to see more radicalized people in the environmental movement who are going towards these more extreme, dark corners. And I think the government should be deeply, deeply concerned about this!

 

Peter Whittle: It’s interesting you say that, actually, if you’re a young person and you are told all the time the war is going to end, actually that pretty much legitimizes extreme action.

 

Poppy Coburn: Mm.

 

Peter Whittle: That was obviously going to be your motivation. But also people around you, as well? I mean, you know, people you’re growing up, did it have that same effect on them?

 

Poppy Coburn: I think it takes a certain type of personality to be so taken up in this. But I would say if you talk to anybody really of my generation, and a little bit younger, they will have these very apocalyptic visions of the future.

 

Now, what I will say in defense of my generation, the leadership of all of these movements are very old! So when I was actually walking over, a few hours ago, I saw that around Westminster the streets have been blocked off by Just Stop Oil protesters. And every single one of them had silver hair! They were all over the age of 60!

 

Now, if you look at the anti-fracking protesters, same thing, all over 60!

 

The idea that this is like a “grassroots movement” coming up from young people, that’s not necessarily true. Young people have a right to be concerned about the future of the world, and the future of the government. But the people who are leading a lot of this wacky stuff, that’s not my generation.

 

Peter Whittle: This seems more of a class thing to me. They seem to be pretty solidly middle class.

 

Poppy Coburn: Yeah, I would say middle class, middle aged, perhaps unemployed, too much time on their hands. I mean, that goes for pretty much all activists.

 

But, yeah, I do think the more radicalized, of course you’re going to see younger people. That’s going to be the young people who are getting swept up in this. And I think it’s really sad. It’s really sad!

 

Peter Whittle: If that was what you were doing, do you not believe in any of it at all now, in the environmental thing, or what’s your position now?

 

Poppy Coburn: I think the problem is environmentalism is a very complex issue. And I think it’s sort of a thing that it will have a technocratic solution. You know, it is not the sort of thing that you, as an ordinary person, have much sway over. Because by its very nature, it is trans-national. It is extremely complex, and is dealing with, like, the levers of international capital and finance.

 

It’s not something that you can even start to address by recycling, or marching down the street with a megaphone, and calling on the government. I mean, to do what?

 

This is such a complex issue that I think it’s quite concerning that already you’re starting to see electorate turn against green options, because you’ve got this insane leadership! Like someone like Roger Hallam, who used to lead Extinction Rebellion. People that are glueing themselves outside the Houses of Parliament, or blocking roads. Everyone just thinks:

 

“Well, these are just a bunch of silly, middle class, hippies. I’m not going to pay attention to them!”

 

But it’s a real issue, it’s going to impact us all. It should be left to government. It shouldn’t be left to these extremely Left-wing activists who are using it as a package to push for very Left-wing policies.

 

Peter Whittle: Yeah, I mean, my experience anyway, of the Greens, actually. We said in fact, they were more Left wing than Jeremy Corbyn. The old saying, what is it, watermelons? Read on the inside. Essentially, a lot of Marxists, …

 

Poppy Coburn: Yes!

 

Peter Whittle: Went up into this area and took on a different mantle. Do I take it then, that you’re not, for example, in agreement about, say, Net Zero?

 

Poppy Coburn: Well, net zero is going to be disastrous for the average man on the street. And it’s going to be absolutely disastrous for the average man on the street. I think, you know, one of the massive problems of the environmentalist movement has been the turn away from nuclear energy, and it frustrates me to no end.

 

And it’s because people have accepted that decline is inevitable. We’ve basically said, the only way we’re going to be able to deal with all of these problems is by shrinking the economy, shrinking our power on the international stage, and essentially just giving up.

 

And that’s not just an environmentalist thing that’s I think the dominant mindset of your average state official today is decline. Is decline! There’s no idea of taking control, taking the mantle and actually pushing for pro-growth, green growth, but actual green growth. No talk about nuclear energy, no talk about, like, actually dealing with China or India, you know, actually really cracking down on it.

 

It’s just well, we’re going to have to, like, scale everything back and the next generation is going to have to accept being poorer. And they won’t. They simply won’t. You can’t expect to have another generation of Conservative voters, if they are just being left out in the cold, which is what’s happening.

 

Peter Whittle: Yes, it is hard not to see that the younger people. I mean, when I think, for example, of traveling. Just the expense of it now. And you look back and think:

 

“God, we were very luckier! We had this sort of extraordinary gold era of travel.”

 

Tell me a bit about your actual background. Where did you grow up?

 

Poppy Coburn: I was born in Southend. I’m an Essex girl. But I lived in Maldon, which is a small town in North Essex. I went to a comprehensive school. I was quite geeky from an early age. It stood out like a sore thumb, really. Then went to a grammar school for sixth form in Colchester. And then went off to Cambridge. And it was an absolute culture shock.

 

I found myself feeling very desperately wanting to keep up with my peers, who tended to be quite Left leaning, wealthy. I couldn’t believe that they all had parents that were voting Remain, for example. They were so out of touch with even just your average Middle Englander.

 

I found that quite fascinating. So I think that really entrenched in me this anti establishment feeling. Because you are made to feel slightly like an outsider, even when you do claw your way into these institutions.

 

Peter Whittle: Did you like it, though? Did you enjoy your time there?

 

Poppy Coburn: Well, I would say it was difficult because the pandemic hit in my second year.

 

Peter Whittle: Oh, of course.

 

Poppy Coburn: So as much as I loved my course, I adored my course. It was one of those early signs that things weren’t going to be fun. As a young person in the UK, you realize that you are being asked to make these horrendous sacrifices, for no real game.

 

And I think, like so many other young people, I fell into this horrendous, you know, dark kind of feeling of like, hopelessness. It was very, very difficult!

 

Peter Whittle: What actually was the sort of day to day reality of being a college student during the pandemic? Everything done remotely, presumably.

 

Poppy Coburn: Yeah.

 

Peter Whittle: Was that what it was? You just sat in your room and just had lectures and things?

 

Poppy Coburn: Pretty much. So I had asked to go back because I didn’t have enough space at home to work. I didn’t have this massive, gigantic house! I could have my own study to work in. So I had to come back. But that meant I was living alone in my dorms. I wasn’t allowed to go out and walk around, I wasn’t allowed to speak to the other people at the college. I was sat in my room all day.

 

And that had just the most horrendous impact!

 

Peter Whittle: I imagine.

 

Poppy Coburn: It really, really did! And I think in the next decade or so, we’re really going to start to see the effects of that. Not just on my age group, which just about got the tail end of it on our education experience. But I always think about the people who have had their GCs disrupted, their A levels disrupted, or even primary school children. The impact it’s had on education and socialization has just been absolutely disastrous! And for what? It was a very, very difficult time!

 

Peter Whittle: I’ve been thinking a lot about this myself recently, and I think I’d rather underestimated the general impact it had on me too. I got this great sense of foreboding that nothing was actually going to go back to being what it was. And to an extent, obviously, it has. Although there is this feeling of things have had the stuffing knocked out of them. Yeah, I still have that feeling.

 

Poppy Coburn: I think we almost accepted this fatalistic narrative of, like, this is what the world’s going to be like now? Things are just bleak. I mean, can you think of a single person who’s optimistic about the future, at the moment?

 

Peter Whittle: I think most people don’t seem to think about the future at all.

 

Poppy Coburn: I know. I think we’ve almost been stuck in the politics of “Now”. Just getting through the week, just getting through the month, and the next paycheck. Just getting through the next government.

 

I mean, who has a vision for the future anymore? Not to draw too heavily upon my Left wing roots, but a quote I come back to quite often, something that Karl Marx actually wrote, one of his letters to Engels, which is:

 

“The bourgeoisie used to think in terms of hundreds of years. Now it can barely think in terms of a decade.”

 

Well, then I would amend that and say that the elite class now can’t even think of the next week or so. it’s just crisis to crisis, to crisis! There is no vision for Britain anymore. It is just decline.

 

Peter Whittle: Can I ask, we’ve been doing some filming recently and it’s basically about young people, … I just feel terribly condescending, young people, … It’s about basically indoctrination that happens in schools, and things. And yet some people seem to come through it, and come through university, whether it’s because they are strong minded or individual whatever, somehow unscathed by this process.

 

Do you think that that is a correct analysis? There are people like yourself, you’re writing for Telegraph now you were writing for UnHeard. Okay, you were Left wing once. What would you call yourself now?

 

Poppy Coburn: Well, I describe myself as a progressive. But I’m not a progressive in any sense of the terms, … I believe in pretty much making Britain a superpower again! I want to see it going forward. I don’t want to be stuck in the past, right.

 

Peter Whittle: Well, great! Basically, when young people often get in touch with me and they sort of say:

 

“I’m the only one, I don’t like wokery. I’m not on the Left. But everyone else seems to be around me.”

 

What should they do? What advice would you give them?

 

Poppy Coburn: What I would say is, it is very very difficult to be the first person that stands up and says:

 

“I don’t agree with this!”

 

When I broke away from the orthodoxy, when I was at university, I suddenly found myself extremely isolated.

 

Peter Whittle: Really?

 

Poppy Coburn: Which is understandable. I’d been working with these people for years on our political campaigns. And I started to waver, sort of thing. I don’t think this is right anymore.

 

Suddenly I found myself out in the cold. That’s really, really, tough! It does take strength of character to get through that. But what I would say is, you’re not alone. Because I think more and more people now are quietly coming to the conclusion that this isn’t right. It’s the social dynamics punish you as an individual for standing up and saying:

 

“I disagree!”

 

But the more people that do, it the less power this kind of pressure has on other people. Which is why it’s so important, if you are young, if you are doubting this orthodoxy, if you’re strong enough, stand up and say it! Don’t be afraid.

 

Because people around you, even if they don’t tell you, will be taking notice. But it does take strength of character and it can affect your life. It can affect your friendships. Your relationships. Your job. It’s not something you should take lightly.

 

But I certainly think if you want to go into journalism, or politics, if you’re too afraid to do it now, then maybe it’s not the Right career for you.

 

Peter Whittle: Would you say, you’ve gone into journalism, because actually you’re doing lots of different things, aren’t you? You’re a producer GB News? But it seems to me that that is one area of journalism where it would be very hard to actually say to somebody to try and make a living at it. Do you think that’s true?

 

Poppy Coburn: Oh, yeah, absolutely! I mean, it’s a sacrifice. It has to be a passion project for you. It certainly is for me.

 

What I would say as well is there’s a real temptation to, once you enter this kind of political world, to say what other people are saying. So you get invited to the dinner parties, you go to the conference circuit. You know that when you walk into a room, you agreeing with all the people around you.

 

But then I think, well, why bother? Go into finance, and make a load of money in the City! Unless you are absolutely passionate about something, you’ve got a vision for the country you want to see. Well, if it’s in any decent vision, it’s going to upset some people. If you’re not upsetting people, you’re probably not doing it right.

 

Peter Whittle: You say that yours is to see Britain being a superpower.

 

Poppy Coburn: Yeah.

 

Peter Whittle: Well, I think that’s the first time I’ve heard someone on this channel say that.

 

Poppy Coburn: Yeah.

 

Peter Whittle: Just broadly speaking, what are the steps to that? I know let’s have a series! But what has to change fundamentally, do you think? I think one of the most demoralizing things we live with is this culture self-loathing, which is not shared by most people in this country, but it certainly is by the elites, if you like.

 

Poppy Coburn: It’s to say that it can be done! That is the first thing you must do, is to accept that fatalism has no place in politics anymore. It is doable to push for that identity. I mean, you can look at the Italian elections, right? The election of Giorgia Meloni. Who would have thought that this woman could have taken power in Italy? She’s pushing for things that I may not agree with everything with it.

 

The most important thing, she has a vision for Italy. She wants Italy to be powerful again. We don’t have any politicians like that, really, in the UK. I’ve written about this before. Like, who’s the English Ceasar? Who do we have that’s got a really strong vision to transform the country and to turn it into something great again? It just takes a few people to stand up and say:

 

“That is what I believe in!”

 

It’s not enough to just complain about the Left. That’s what I essentially believe.

 

Peter Whittle: No, it’s not, indeed. I couldn’t agree more. But it can be very comfortable just for [word unclear]. What about you? I mean, would you have a stand for anything, election?

 

Poppy Coburn: I would hope so, in the future?

 

Peter Whittle: Oh you will?

 

Poppy Coburn: Yes, in the future.

 

Peter Whittle: Put your money where your mouth is?

 

Poppy Coburn: Oh, yes, certainly! But probably not now. I can’t imagine anybody would like to be lectured to by someone of my age, but I do it [chuckling] anyway!

 

Peter Whittle: Absolutely. Well, look, we shall follow your progress.

 

Poppy Coburn: Thank you.

 

Peter Whittle: And I have to say, it’s very good to hear such optimism, really is! Thank you very much for coming.

 

Poppy Coburn: Thank you.

 

Peter Whittle: That’s Poppy Coburn there. We shall see you next week. And in the meantime, have a good time. Okay? Bye.

 

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782 Comments

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Alexander Johns
1 day ago
Great to hear a younger person acknowledging the truths about immigration that the establishment and media deny exists.
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Froot Mcgoose
1 day ago
Hear! Hear!
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ahsen khan
1 day ago
…and right-wing racism in general doesn’t solve it either.
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Corayn Bell
1 day ago (edited)
@ahsen khan Nothing about racism. I don’t know why you brought it into the conversation. It is because we have our own people who have paid into the system who have nowhere to live, insufficient doctors, schools and many using the Health Service which they have paid nothing into. Also many foreigners come and do not want to embrace the language, culture, history and the morals of the British people! I could go on but you should get the message!
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Ni Cnaimhin
1 day ago
@ahsen khan Those tired old labels don’t work anymore, except among the deluded & misguided. Let us know your actual agenda, rather than projecting your own failings on to the host community . Come on – be honest!
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ahsen khan
1 day ago
@Ni Cnaimhin = Joke
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Merc Type-8
1 day ago
@ahsen khan If immigration continues as it is ‘right wing racism’ will be the least of the worries.
It’s as if accusing Britain of being racist for so long, to no avail, has prompted some in Government to force us to be, in order to protect our families, homes and communities.
The court cases sayng Rwanda is not safe for immigrants, only prove what Britain must do to solve the problem.
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Ni Cnaimhin
1 day ago
@ahsen khan Joke ?No – I’m perfectly serious .
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ahsen khan
1 day ago
@Ni Cnaimhin serious ?

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ahsen khan
1 day ago
@Merc Type-8 Did I Accuse the entire British else as racist
But yes Right winged is more problem than immagrants
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Ni Cnaimhin
1 day ago
@ahsen khan For you.
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ahsen khan
1 day ago
@Ni Cnaimhin yes I am Serious
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barrie watson
1 day ago
@ahsen khan it would damm well change somthing .
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barrie watson
1 day ago
@ahsen khan you are talking rubbish sir
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David Adiwego
1 day ago
@Ni Cnaimhin the deluded & misguided are calling most of the shots in this country, either directly or indirectly. And they’re of all walks of life and political leanings. Here’s a typical conservative leaning person’s delusion: (with bellow-replacement birth rates, thanks to women’s-lib, and an aging population, thanks to the national and governmental denial of/fight against natural death) the UK shouldn’t have mass immigration, AND shouldn’t have a managed GDP and geo-political decline to that of a nation of 40 million people.
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philip rufus
1 day ago
@ahsen khan You would’nt know a negative right winger if one jumped up and bit you in the A – – you’v never seen one junior,trust me neither have I. My late fathers generation fought them,we know nowt.
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Billy Moffat
22 hours ago
@ahsen khan sorry dude you need some spelling correction, otherwise we are losing shit in translation.

cib kur kur
19 hours ago
sunak will bring more computer workers to uk.

Blue Sky
18 hours ago
@Corayn Bell
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G Bentley
1 day ago
Breath of fresh air. It is so refreshing to hear a young person deliver a thoughtful, reasoned and articulate argument for and against topics of the day. On brexit she was spot on.
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Colin Lawless
1 day ago
Immigration is by far Britain’s biggest issue since world war 2.
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Evola’s Sunglasses
1 day ago
We got captured by the Global American Empire and its open borders Globalisation project in 1945 and never broke free.
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Didier Lemoine
1 day ago
Isolated Britain hs no more say since WW2 when became an american colony
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Steven Farrall
1 day ago
Oh, make it five. Total abject and unremitting total government and bureaucratic failure.
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Neil Saunders
1 day ago
@Evola’s Sunglasses Exactly!
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Neil Saunders
1 day ago
Yes.
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Unloved otto
1 day ago
Beautiful based girl .
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S North
1 day ago (edited)
@Didier Lemoine The issue has little to do with Americans, though the individuals in charge of American Finance and Banking most certainly do have everything to answer for.
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Rab Mcleod
1 day ago
Thank you Peter and Poppy for common sense conversation.
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Adetola Ayodele
1 day ago
I am a Black African with 5 daughters at the University of Newcastle., the youngest being 18. We got into the country last June

S North
1 day ago
@Adetola Ayodele Do the Math, you could not possibly have 5 daughters attend University at the same time unless you had 2 pairs of twins, is that what you are expecting people to believe, lol.
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Adetola Ayodele
1 day ago
@S North , trust me, I do. It is a feat which I struggle to believe; myself. All our savings from Nigeria are almost gone though. I have two wives.

S North
1 day ago
@Adetola Ayodele Of course you did and of course you do.
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Adetola Ayodele
1 day ago
@S North ok big pants.

Alastair McMurray
1 day ago
With appropriate backing she will go far. It’s lovely to hear someone with conviction and a vision for our country.
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Timothy Martin
1 day ago
How utterly refreshing to hear Poppy Coburn saying what I have been thinking for a long time. Listening to her has been a therapy session, with my delusion that I am the only person who seems to think this country is in a self destruct race to self destruction. I feel like the sunshine of hope for the future has just appeared over the Horizon. Poppy thank you, and PLEASE go into politics, as we desperately need politicians who give a damn about our country.
Make Britain Great Again.
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Ann Chadwick
1 day ago
Thank you Timothy
You speak my thoughts
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Timothy Martin
1 day ago
@Ann Chadwick
You’re very welcome Ann
We are NOT alone
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Hugh Muir
1 day ago
Politicians are not willing to face the fact that in order to limit immigration we must leave the ECHR.
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Graham T
Graham T
1 day ago
They know exactly what they’re doing, that is the worry. It’s all very sinister. That’s why the people have to vote for an alternative, before it’s too late to turn the tide.
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STEVE WEEDEN
1 day ago
Irrelevant what we belong to.
Political will and a love for your culture is what’s required.
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Ni Cnaimhin
1 day ago
Get rid of that sinister 1951 UN treaty on immigration/ asylum seekers too!
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Jujutrini
1 day ago
Not true at all.

Norfolk Sceptic
1 day ago
Suella Braverman MP knows that it is the only way.

goldeneddie
1 day ago
It’s no accident and not ‘incompetence’ that is driving these people to damage and dismantle our country, because – as they openly admit – they want to ‘Build Back Better’. And ‘building back’ can only occur after demolition
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Al Mac
Al Mac
1 day ago
Nailed it!!
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mazpac
1 day ago
The great reset!
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P.G. Reitsma
1 day ago
Precisely. They meet every year in Davos and things become worse in the developed nations.
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Amanda Morton-King
1 day ago (edited)
Peter Whittle again showing what an excellent interviewer he is; allowing the interviewee time and the security to clearly express themselves whilst still being asked challenging questions.
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Ann Chadwick
1 day ago
He always gives his guests time to fully express their thoughts
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Garry Irvin
1 day ago
When I become PM, he will be my Chief of Staff…..
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jrbs
1 day ago
The Conservative politicians have ignored everything that Party Members want.
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Karen Mancina
1 day ago
They certainly have
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mazpac
1 day ago
Even now – the politicians wanted Sunak, the party members wanted Truss, so they are working to undermine us and get their way as usual!
Their arrogance cannot be ignored but as the two main parties are technically the same, it’s difficult to overcome.
But we must!
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RaggyCat
1 day ago
Poppy gives me hope for the future of our country. All is not lost.
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Robert Reynolds
1 day ago
Absolutely correct ,I will be voting for the Reform Party. They cannot be any worse than the current Parties ,and hopefully we will get rid of the old guard.
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Vinn Paraffin
1 day ago
Tories mk2!

Robert Reynolds
1 day ago
@Vinn Paraffin And your suggestion is ?
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Gill PS
1 day ago
They will do as they are told, if not from within, from without. Banks. How everything alters evrry time someone gets into power.
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Maponus Reborn
1 day ago
What is happening to our nation is positively insane. How much more of the wrong sort of immigration can our small – repeat – small island take??? When will the penny finally drop?
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goldeneddie
1 day ago
They KNOW what they’re doing. It’s no accident and not ‘incompetence’ that is driving these people to damage and dismantle our country, because – as they openly admit – they want to ‘Build Back Better’. And ‘building back’ can only occur after demolition
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Evola’s Sunglasses
1 day ago
From Ireland to Sweden the European is being demographically replaced.
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Didier Lemoine
1 day ago
@Evola’s Sunglasses no Britain needs 2 millions african low cost migrants to replace too expensif british workers asking for pay rise !
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Peter France
1 day ago
@Evola’s Sunglasses For no positive reason
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Peter France
1 day ago
@Didier Lemoine Apparently Britain needs 70 million africans, and it looks like Britain will get them too.
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Didier Lemoine
1 day ago
@Peter France yes they all want to come to Britain from speaking english countries
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WhiskyJackAttack 88
1 day ago
What the hell are you saying lmao

DanDob
1 day ago
@Didier Lemoine no thanks we don’t want to lose our identity like France has.
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S North
1 day ago
@Evola’s Sunglasses Indeed, though it is merely an ‘attempt’ to demographically replace, and that attempt has been, and is to be, thwarted.

cyclist68
13 hours ago
@Evola’s Sunglasses Correct, I was shocked when an Irish friend told me what was going on there and the numbers.

Peter France
1 day ago
It is a gigantic demographic change that has been carried out expressly against the public’s wishes. Consistently and knowingly.
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HABU1
21 hours ago (edited)
I would disagree to a large extent Peter…..well off pensioners, (and middle aged) students, and the many many people whose I.Q is not brilliant, don’t give a shit.

Peter France
11 hours ago
@HABU1 Let’s have a referendum on the matter.

Heracles
1 day ago
On this one issue failure alone the Tories would have lost the next election
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Peter France
1 day ago
To paraphrase the great Groucho Marx: If that issue doesn’t persuade you, well they have others.
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Stu McCabe
1 day ago
If drastic action on immigration isn’t taken soon, in 20 or 30 years this country might degenerate into two or more distinct communities in conflict, like Northern Ireland on a giant scale. Or new political parties based on religion/race might arise – we could end up with a government that makes Sharia the law of the land. The low fertility rate of native Brits guarantees that we will become a minority this century. I can’t think of a more vital issue.
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Baron Ortega
1 day ago
It’s already happened in Belgium
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Peter France
1 day ago
In other words true multiculturalism. A magnificent achievement.
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cyclist68
13 hours ago
Notice how demographics and the huge changes we are seeing is the one subject they never allow you to bring up. Including at “The home of free speech” Talkradio.
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Cybertronian Savant
1 day ago
Gives a glimmer of hope to see that there’s at least a few in the younger generations that are able to think ahead.
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Bewildered Brit
Bewildered Brit
1 day ago
Everyone scratching their heads about the housing crisis are just playing stupid. This is all DELIBERATE.
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Gail Platt
1 day ago
I certainly seems so, but why would they be so stupid, so damaging towards the country?
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devlinX
1 day ago
People like this young lady need to find like-minded individuals and start a new political party/movement with logic instead of feelings at the heart of it.
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Clark Ramsey
1 day ago (edited)
THIS YOUNG LADY IS PERFECTLY CORRECT, WE VOTED FOR BREXIT TO TAKE BACK OUR BORDERS, & BORIS THE BUFFOON IGNORED THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED THEM IN. .
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Mr Ror
1 day ago
You voted brexit to control immigration, others voted brexit for the exact opposite reason.
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Didier Lemoine
1 day ago
Britain needs millions of low cost african migrants
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David Paterson
1 day ago
“Take back control” was about EU FOM, not all immigration (how could leaving the EU affect migration from India?). If you cut off the nearest and easiest source of legal migration to a country with low unemployment and a skills shortage, then you are likely to increase the flow of legal migrants from the rest of the world – which is exactly what has happened. Illegal migration is a separate issue altogether but again, removing yourself from the agreement (“Dublin” agreement) that compelled EU countries to take back migrants who had no legitimate claim in the U.K. was hardly going to help.
If you thought that voting for a Brexit would reduce immigration overall, you were mistaken, that wasn’t even a Leave campaign promise – only the “point based system” and ending FOM – both of which have been delivered.
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David Paterson
1 day ago
“Take back control” was about EU FOM, not all immigration (how could leaving the EU affect migration from India?). If you cut off the nearest and easiest source of legal migration to a country with low unemployment and a skills shortage, then you are likely to increase the flow of legal migrants from the rest of the world – which is exactly what has happened. Illegal migration is a separate issue altogether but again, removing yourself from the agreement (“Dublin” agreement) that compelled EU countries to take back migrants who had no legitimate claim in the U.K. was hardly going to help.
If you thought that voting for a Brexit would reduce immigration overall, you were mistaken, that wasn’t even a Leave campaign promise – only the “point based system” and ending FOM – both of which have been delivered.
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Mr Ror
1 day ago
@David Paterson you are spot on. Thank you for expressing these points so clearly. Brexiters are really slow on the uptake.
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Didier Lemoine
1 day ago
British r migrants too so

Stellar Jay Atkins
1 day ago
@David Paterson migration isn’t necessary, nor is it a “net positive”. Ever.
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Didier Lemoine
1 day ago
@Winston Smith do u really think all migrants r legal in Britain ? do u still believe in unicorns ?
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Norfolk Sceptic
1 day ago
@Winston Smith Her/his irony was too much for me as well
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Barra Zoot
1 day ago
@Didier Lemoine Troll
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Winston Smith
1 day ago
@Norfolk Sceptic There is irony, then there is mysticism.
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Jon Mould
1 day ago
@Didier Lemoine no way!!!

Susanna Marker
1 day ago
Buffoon, not bafoon.
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Clark Ramsey
1 day ago
@Susanna Marker TERRIBLEY SORRY, SUSANNA.

Susanna Marker
1 day ago
@Clark Ramsey Terribly, not terribley.
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David Paterson
1 day ago
@Stellar Jay Atkins I was replying to someone who seemed to believe that there was a relationship between Brexit and migration in general, which is not the case and was never claimed by the Leave campaign. You are of course entitled to your opinion on whether migration is necessary or has any value, but that wasn’t the subject.
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Jo Blog s
1 day ago
Thay we’re never going to let us leave.
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Neil Saunders
1 day ago
@Barra Zoot I think you’re right. At first, I thought he was merely dealing in heavy irony.
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Clark Ramsey
1 day ago
@Didier Lemoine WHY, WE HAVE ENOUGH YOUNG & OLDER PEOPLE TO TRAIN RIGHT HERE.
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Stellar Jay Atkins
1 day ago
@David Paterson most of the people pushing for it DID think it was about reducing immigration and controlling who could enter. One of the main faces of Brexit, Nigel Ferage also said things to that effect MANY times.
To claim there was no connection between the two is absurd.
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David Paterson
1 day ago
@Stellar Jay Atkins Oh indeed, Farage and others did INFER that, most notably in that poster of his – but anyone with any sense knew that Farage, not even an MP, was in no position to promise anything of the kind.. But the official Leave campaign emphatically did NOT promise that all immigration would be reduced. To do so would have been “absurd” – it would have been transparently obvious that leaving the EU had absolutely nothing whatever to do with non EU legal migration – how could it? If you are saying that the Brexit campaigners were very happy that many people mistakenly believed – you said “did think” – that and voted to Leave the EU because, absurdly, they imagined that had some connection with immigration from Nigeria or Pakistan then yes, I’m sure your right, of course they did. But believing something to be true that is self-evidently not true doesn’t make it true.
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jumble stiltskin
1 day ago
You might remember something from the night of brexit results. It was a huge surprise that cities like Birmingham voted heavily in favour of Brexit. It flummoxed the presenters and experts on the night, but the more astute noted that the reduction of immigration from Europe would mean an increase from south asian and African areas.
The establishment in government havent been slow in giving people what they voted for.
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David Paterson
13 hours ago
@Clark Ramsey No, unfortunately we don’t. U.K. unemployment is currently 3.7% and there are over 1.25 million vacancies. Unemployment much below 4% is generally reckoned by economists to be “full employment” because a) some of those counted as “out of work” are simply between jobs and b) every country has a fairly small number of people (in the U.K., maybe 500-750k) who are simply unemployable, for any number of reasons (frankly, some of them are just too dim to do most modern jobs and some lead chaotic lives). One of the reasons growth is low is that we simply don’t have enough people with the right skills to do the jobs that are already available. You can argue that we should “train the ones we have” – but who, exactly? Are we going to train the unemployable to be software engineers and get people out of retirement to train as nurses? Not as simple as shouting in all caps and waving a little flag.
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Mr Ror
11 hours ago
@Stellar Jay Atkins you and other brexiters got done over, admit it. I know it’s hard to admit.
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Mr Ror
11 hours ago
@Clark Ramsey using caps do not make your arguments any stronger.

Alexander Johns
1 day ago
Politicians seem to ensure that they serve themselves first, their outside interests next, their party third and their futures fourth. If any of those self interests happen in some way to benefit their constituents or the country that’s probably an unintended consequence.
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jimmy s
1 day ago
What a breath of fresh air this young woman is.
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Jonathan Spilhaus
1 day ago
We need someone like Giorgia Meloni or Kari Lake, who are strongly anti-immigration
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thomas robert
1 day ago
we need a hard right leader strong enough to ignore the political and establishment class and to give our people the kind of country we want not the crime ridden nightmare they are trying to force on us. MILLIONS are waiting for that leader, and MILLIONS are ready and willing to fight on our streets for the right leader and for our country, our women and our children, we are waiting for you an army of british people are waiting but you must be the real deal no more talkers we’ve had enough of them.
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Eric Boxer
1 day ago
Kari lake is ok but she ain’t gonna do it ..the uk needs a real radical
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Kshitij Sharma
1 day ago
Nigel farage ?
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Simon Stones
1 day ago
@thomas robert oh my god, where are these people, cause I don’t see them! I see a broken, compliant bunch with no back bone…
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Simon Stones
1 day ago
@S North well let’s hope so bruvs

Anthony Rigby
1 day ago
Brilliant ! A young person who has got a grip on the reality of what’s going on. Pity our political class can’t see it !
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thomas robert
1 day ago
they arrange, organise and run it you berk.
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Mike
1 day ago
When Sir Winston Churchill made his famous quote about Russia being a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, he might as well have been talking about the Conservative Party and their policies.
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PGH Engineer
1 day ago
It’s not so difficult when you realise that almost all Conservative Party funding comes from a relatively small number of rich individuals and corporations. He who pays the piper calls the tune – that’s why they do it.
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Ellen O’Neill
1 day ago
Thank you Peter, Poppy Coburn and Eva Vlaardingerbroek are surely the future this country needs.
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1adebarde
1 day ago
At present there are not enough houses being built in Britain, yet in continues to accept wave after wave of illegal immigrants. You can’t really blame the French who have 1000s of immigrants on their shores waiting to come here, it’s because of Britain’s no border policy.
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Ni Cnaimhin
1 day ago (edited)
Let’s face it – this is a problem facing the whole continent of Europe.
We should applaud & highlight those brave leaders who have courageously stood up to the bullying Globalist elite of the Eu , & not permitted their countries to be used in this way – for one , take a bow Mr Victor Orban of Hungary!
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cyclist68
13 hours ago
Correct. If they were all desperate to get in to Scotland we wouldn’t be doing our best to keep them in Northumbria would we.

Clark Ramsey
1 day ago (edited)
I LOVE THIS YOUNG LADY, POPPY, SHE IS SPOT ON IN EVERY THING SHE SAYS, WHY CAN’T TRUSS, TAKE HER ON BOARD, WONDERFUL I COULD LISTEN TO HER ALL DAY, I FOR ONE WOULD VOTE FOR YOU POPPY.
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Ni Cnaimhin
1 day ago
Immigration under 100,000 ?!!
How about ZERO – for the next 25 years, as a pledge to make up for the damage , starting with Blair, that was done for the last 25!! This alongside a stringent policy of removal/ deportation of illegals, foreign criminals , etc – & also for those remaining,for the slightest infraction of our laws.
A policy of aid to more affected countries , to help build infrastructure & provide jobs , wild perhaps be a humane & practical approach, encouraging people to stay at home & develop their own countries. Exchanges for training/ skills development ok, as long as it is understood that this is temporary domicile .
How much does the NHS expend on translation services alone ??
These kind of ridiculous situations can not go on. Change should preferably be made , before change is forced upon us!
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jumble stiltskin
1 day ago
@Ni Cnaimhin indeed, working in the NHS I see the effects every day at work. Need a break from trying to integrate these people. It’s almost like the country is taking a modest punch to the liver over and over again and it will only hold out so long.
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Gary Marshall
1 day ago
I hope Poppy is more often on Culture Forum, she speaks for millions
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The Alternative View
1 day ago
Absolutely love this channel. Keep up the amazing work you guys do.
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Philip Ford
1 day ago
This is the very first time I’ve heard anyone bring up how immigration is handled by SE Asian governments. Not just Singapore – look anywhere in SE Asia and see governments which enforce their immigration laws. Well done, Poppy – this comparison needs to be made more often, and loudly.
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Geraldine Diggins
1 day ago
What an impressive young lady. So pleased to know that she is a producer at GB News and that she might be willing to throw her hat in the ring to help get this country on its feet again. Believe, visualise and DO. We need to have a “CAN DO” attitude which is far from prevalent in these times. Good luck Poppy Coburn and thank you Peter for introducing her to us.
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Steve Pearce
1 day ago
My main disagreement with Poppy is the establishment absolutely threads together the supply vs demand of immigration. It’s where their paycheque comes from. Look up an article in the spectator called the housing mafia that highlights the exact mechanism between politicians, land owners and housing construction.
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Milo Sander
1 day ago
Hooray!, Poppy
She shares my sentiment, make Britain a super power.
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Elk Paz
2 hours ago
I flinched at that but in truth if you’re not a super power, you’re under some else’s boot, so be powerful and spread the light.

Milo Sander
1 hour ago
@Elk Paz England /GB/ The West has done so much good in the world. Others have tried, but it just isn’t the same. Pre1914 thinking with a twist of 2022 technological know-how will go long way.
We all need to take a stand and say it how it is, facts over feelings etc.
Stay awesome and keep on keeping on.
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Linda A
1 day ago
Great interview . I very much enjoyed listening to this very intelligent and forthright young lady . I wish her every good luck for her future .
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nigbiker
1 day ago
This woman is so spot on in her analysis, i hope we hear a lot more from her
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John Catto
1 day ago
Sounds a very sensible young lady, I am sure she will go far in whatever direction she may choose to go.
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cliona moore
1 day ago
Wonderful conversation with such an articulate and switched on young woman .
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Strelnikoff
1 day ago
It’s great to see someone this positive for a change.
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N0w3lly
1 day ago (edited)
The thing that doesn’t make sense is the fact that Conservative voters are switching en masse to Labour who are, let’s face it, the architects of mass immigration, and have not at any time criticised it! People are not going to get different, or economic improvements, either way, in my opinion. They need to start having courage to vote for a new order, and for real change/ reform
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Graham T
Graham T
1 day ago
It’s clear that most voters are dense, believing that they have just two choices where voting is concerned. To teach the Tories a lesson they’ll vote for Labour. The NE England ‘red wall’ flip flop was an example, many Lab voters turning to Con. They’ll now flip back. The establishment knows that it has us exactly where it wants us, and that’s why they are blatantly rubbing our noses in immigration, covid etc etc.
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thomas robert
1 day ago
@Graham T
but if you are not one of those you call dense can i assume you marched with the EDL when they were on our streets, all those who didn’t may as you say be dense but much worse they were/are all cowards.
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Evola’s Sunglasses
1 day ago
Did you vote BNP when they were on the rise, over 1 million votes? I did.
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thomas robert
1 day ago
@Evola’s Sunglasses imagine over one million on our streets and it would be many more now as brits are waking up.
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Mike o’ Glen
1 day ago
The thing is, N0w, if you don’t vote Con you have to vote Lab. Unless, you want to waste you vote on Lib Demm or some such…

N0w3lly
1 day ago
@thomas robert Thomas… just as Graham should not have called people dense, neither should you equivocate not voting for Labour or the Conservatives as if that means an EDL supporter, which is asinine. Let us just start realising and understanding what mass uncontrolled migration has done: 1) the equivalent of one whole Cardiff a year, every year for 20 years, have added to the population. This strains housing stock, NHS and schools capacity, especially when you are given no opportunity to predict/ plan ahead for such unprecedented numbers, 2) especially the case with free movement/ illegal immigration, you don’t really have a clue who are coming in, and whether they have genuinely good or bad intentions, whether they intend to assimilate into society or divide it, or ghettoise it, or whether they intend to obey or break the law, 3) millions of low-medium skilled workers are the overwhelming average that have come in, and that has both flooded the employment market at those levels and suppressed wages. These are not good effects to existing citizens, let alone new ones coming in, 4) the existential threat to national security cannot be ignored or understated. The evidence demonstrates that gang violence, child rape gangs, murder, vicious street robberies, and many more serious crimes have been on the increase as a result of these irresponsible Russian Roulette policies. It is okay for most politicians: they aren’t the ones who have to face and suffer the consequences of their decisions. The rest of society does! That is NOT a nod nor expression of support to EDL or skinheads, and you ought to take that dense slur back
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Bushwhacked Dos.
1 day ago
I’m afraid to destroy the Tory party we are going to have to suffer Labour.
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Stephen Eurosailor
1 day ago
@N0w3lly Well said.

F F
1 day ago
Poppy, I despair that I am the only one seeing the truth and then a young person like you comes along and gives me hope . Thank you Poppy
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Ian Pendlebury
1 day ago
Poppy is a marvellously articulate and grounded lady. Great find for the channel and more importantly for the future of the UK. I say ” go for it Poppy, don’t wait”. We are currently in the hands of an old order which needs to be changed … and as soon possible.
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chris solen
1 day ago
Poppy should be on Mainstream much more. The middle englander’s would certainly understand her and agree with her views
. Most politicians only seek power for themselves and what that can lead to. Fresh ideas are pushed back by left media and left generally. Money always speaks and that’s why lobby groups with money have so much power. Look at Ken Clarke big beast in Politics but connected to Tobacco group who’s product killed millions. Dominic Grieve who pretended to support Brexit with Mrs May but connected with EDF , French energy company. It proves my point
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D. Marques
1 day ago
To the “New Culture Forum”, it would be much appreciated if you could address the increasing number of “BIRTH TOURISTS” in the U.K. & in Western Europe alike. It’s becoming a reality none of us should ignore! Thanks in advance!…
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Trevor Dent
1 day ago
A breath of fresh air indeed, well said Poppy.
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Loui J
1 day ago
I rate this lady hope she goes far in her endeavours!
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AntonHu
11 hours ago
What a breath of fresh air this young woman is. All power to her.

Smart Silver 1962
1 day ago
Gradually our people will come to understand that very few of the present politicians no matter which party they represent stand with us for the good of our country. So many own agendas stand in the way of what we can all see is right and wrong.
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Jennifer Bate
1 day ago (edited)
Brilliant interviewer. thank you Peter.
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sheep83
1 day ago
She’s right re Universities. We advertised for a management position in May, and the vast majority of applicants were West African students about to finish their Masters course.
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jumble stiltskin
1 day ago
My wife see this also at her university which is one of the major providers of nurses. Over half the classrooms are full of south asians, by all means some are going to make it, but most are not equipped with what it takes to be a nurse.
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Nagisasan36
1 day ago
What a breath of fresh air she is
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Graham Sewell
1 day ago
Poppy Coburn , an articulate, intelligent and honest commentator. Spot on with universities – need to close at least half and make the remainder serve British students with the skills we need. Immigration is destroying our culture, our lifestyle and quality of life – as well as pressurising housing, health and trsnsport. Not to mention crime and public safety. Complete pause on immigration for at least 10 years
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HABU1
21 hours ago
Well Graham for at least 15/20 years universities have been a business as opposed to a reaching academic body.
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Elk Paz
2 hours ago
@HABU1 And Margaret Thatcher first introduced that ethos.

HABU1
9 minutes ago
@Elk Paz Nice try….all down to each subservient institution.

Unoriginal Username
1 day ago
Let’s be honest tho. It’s not just the numbers , it’s the nations and cultures they come from
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Evola’s Sunglasses
1 day ago
Culture is downstream from ethnicity and race.
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Unoriginal Username
1 day ago
@Evola’s Sunglasses I don’t think the British people would be as concerned if it was 300,000 settler Canadians , Australians and New Zealanders coming to the uk every year.
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Albert
1 day ago
They all take up resources that could be used by English people.
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Unoriginal Username
1 day ago
@Albert British ! And yes every single person uses resources. My point is and remains, there are people out there who are a lot more similar to us then others. And to prove that you can see who the British people make a fuss about coming here. Did we riot when older Hong Kongers were granted visas ? NO because they waved the old colonial flag sang god save the Queen and spoke highly of the uk. However we marched when hundreds of thousands of Middle Eastern and North African people came. Why ? Because they have no link or respect for the culture, traditions and people of the uk. So if we’re gonna bring people in (at most in small quantity’s ) then it should be from very specific places. And heavily vetted
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jumble stiltskin
1 day ago
I have to agree here, if this was immigration from “the west” it wouldn’t be quite the issue it is now. The cultural, economic, and other differences are too great.
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Unoriginal Username
1 day ago (edited)
@jumble stiltskin wow wow wow. Now let’s stop with the use of the term “the west” ok. I don’t want Germans , Albanians or Austrians the same as I don’t want Middle Eastern or North Africans. I’d rather someone from Australia, Fiji , New Zealand or Hong Kong. These nation have a lot more in common with the uk then those on the continent and America… monarchy , former dominions and dependency’s , shared language, faith and inherited judicial and social values. These our what made and make the uk unique from mainland Europe and America.
“The west” is a ridiculous outdated term that means absolutely nothing anymore. Anglosphere and historical links that’s what matters most.
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Peter Allum
15 hours ago
What an excellent interview.Poppy has a gift for clarity in expression.
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Cotictimmy
1 day ago
Go Poppy!
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JangianTV
1 day ago
This young lady is wonderful!
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Barrie Peck
Barrie Peck
1 day ago
What a great talent Poppy is you are spot on you will go far

NOT A QUICHE LORRAINE
1 day ago
UK is weeping at this contrived destruction of our once great land
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Mike Niinemae
1 day ago
nice one poppy …give her the job at no. 10 you are spot on with all topics………….
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barrie watson
1 day ago
We can see this happen only what can we do about it , we are being lied to, cheated , and made fools of, how and who can change this.
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Ann Chadwick
1 day ago
You are the best Peter
You listen to your guests………..A rare gift…..
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Scott Peter
1 day ago
Peter, you’re brilliant – I relate to your approach, it reminds me of the more gentlemanly 1980’s
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Michael Holt
1 day ago
Glad me and my wife are retired,I’d hate to think about going to work all week to pay taxes to keep all these immigrants here.the government has no money .that’s why its imperative truss must stop this.shes right,465,000 immigrants came here using this ridiculous student nonsense this year.besides all other immigration.
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Simon Stones
1 day ago
Drives me mad my taxes are being wasted on these freeloaders!
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Ian Cognito
1 day ago
When I left school in 1975 I didn’t know anyone who went to university. In fact, it was about 82/83 before I even met anyone who had been to university. Now I know dozens of people who have been. At least half of them shouldn’t have come within 50 miles of one.
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Frances Brown
Frances Brown
1 day ago
One of my daughters didn’t want to go to college she wanted to get a job we had words over it she was right she did a degree in the workplace and the company paid for it no need for Universities .
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captain patriarchy
1 day ago
same. Some people are entering the workforce with university degrees and they are absolutely terrible at their job.
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Ivor Mectin
1 day ago
Many years ago I saw Ian Cognito at a live show, as you no doubt also did – very funny man but too close to the bone for the mainstream!

Jeremy Fielding
1 day ago
Perhaps people like living packed in like sardines. Every time I go back to the UK it’s even more crowded, even in rural areas.
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Mark Moran
Mark Moran
1 day ago
And yet there are about 1.4m job vacancies with staff shortages across most sectors….but I’m sure you think you understand

6chhelipilot
1 day ago (edited)
@Mark Moran
If you want a mainly £10 per hour job in the UK, then you can’t go wrong. We have created a low-wage economy, and even Macron has accused us of doing this. Macron! We have created an economy where the people delivering items to your door can’t afford any of them.
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Peter France
1 day ago (edited)
Apparently they love eating bugs too, or soon will.
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Loui J
1 day ago
We don’t like it. Remember, many of the policy makers are living in detached houses or in gated communities, living lives far removed from our own.
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Blue Sky
1 day ago
Thank-you Poppy!
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Unoriginal Username
1 day ago
I’m not an environmentalism I’m a conservationist. I don’t hate coal I hate deforestation. I don’t hate nuclear I hate paving over of woodland and grassland in the uk. British people have always had a soft spot for nature and the countryside. I don’t think most brits are happy living in city’s like some foreign people are.
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Karen Mancina
1 day ago
Great discussion
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Roger Alsop
1 day ago
Excellent New Culture Forum.
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Vinn Paraffin
1 day ago
Down to the ‘tens of thousands’, that’s what the Tories stated before the last four general elections (started by Camoron in 2010) CONS BY NAME, AND CONS BY NATURE!!
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thebiopguy
1 day ago
Love how your entire political outlook is based around being a contrarian to whatever social group you find yourself in at the time, and also making money of course.
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jazztheglass
1 day ago (edited)
The 3 main parties are wholly in favour of mass migration.
It’s cheap labour suppressing wages, more consumers buying products, higher vat revenue, propelling higher property prices and rents, the banks can increase fractal banking reserves
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Peter France
1 day ago
It’s also a policy that came out of an asylum.
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P.G. Reitsma
1 day ago
Never heard the term ‘fractal’ before. Is it relating to or used in place of ‘fractional’?
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jazztheglass
1 day ago
@P.G. Reitsma Fractional-reserve banking is a banking system in which banks hold a portion of customer deposits in reserves and use the rest in loans to other customers. This system uses money that would otherwise be idle in bank accounts for lending, allowing consumers to continue borrowing and spending, which helps the economy grow.
For example, suppose you keep $5,000 in your savings account. The bank has another customer request a $1,000 loan. It can use fractions of all its customer’s savings to fund that customer’s loan.
Banks can lend out on a ratio of 12 to 1
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P.G. Reitsma
1 day ago
@jazztheglass Yes, I’m aware of fractional reserve banking. I was wondering if your comment included a misspelled word.

Tom Brennan
1 day ago
Well said
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Moto Maggs
1 day ago
Youth and wisdom….. a rare combination.
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Brian Feltham-Daniels
1 day ago
This is a young lady with the right stuff! Let’s hope she can influence a good number of her peers to see sense!!
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stephen thwaite
1 day ago
The UK is financed and controlled by the WEF members so don’t expect immigration to be controlled any time soon as the WEF like immigration.
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mandy shanks
1 day ago
I saw an article equating British expats living abroad with migrants to Britain. It stated “expats” should be called “migrants” because “expat” is an elitist term for the same thing. Expats May find language difficult and not integrate well sometimes, but they don’t take from the host country. They have to take out private health insurance and-be self reliant, buying derelict houses and doing them up, paying to live in the country, often being required to set up companies, living off their own income and savings.
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Mike Skinner
Mike Skinner
22 hours ago
I asked the taxi driver if the Dominicans liken my wife and I to the massive numbers of Haitians moving into the area. He said that we were definitely not a ball and chain

cyclist68
13 hours ago
I can safely say they don’t gang grape their daughters on an industrial scale either

Richard Hill
1 day ago
It’s been “ignored” for decades.
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thomas robert
1 day ago
by british men,yes you are right.

Johnny 81
1 day ago (edited)
Don’t think it matters what Liz Truss thinks because I can’t see her lasting long. I’d be more afraid of what labour thinks
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DJ Low
1 day ago (edited)
Consider your own home. Would it be better if 4 like people or 150 strangers lived there. Which would be more functional?Never less, is it not too late, has the mass of strangers not already moved in?.
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micky williams
1 day ago
Some of us were saying the same thing regards immigration and the government for 10 years and more before this young slip of a lass was at Cambridge or employed by the Telegraph, but still at school! She’s good though and i’m pleased her voice is being heard.
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thomas robert
1 day ago
but did you march with the EDL when you had the chance?.
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Jack Anderson
1 day ago
Very smart, wise guest.
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Dawn Emile
1 day ago
A lot of people talk about the issues of immigration. For instance, Simon Webb on YouTube. The government just doesn’t listen.
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flemwad
1 day ago
Was truly a pleasure to listen to this lady. Great interview.

Anna
1 day ago (edited)
Poppy is so bloody refreshing! Although my own kids had their GCSEs disrupted, listening about the isolation poppy experienced at uni really got to me. Comparing it to the beautiful freedom my generation had at her age, it broke my heart listening to her experiences. I can personally relate to the apocalyptic thinking of some youngsters nowadays, though, as I was indoctrinated into a cult as a kid. So I understand the nihilism, which was exacerbated for me by the cold war & nuclear threats.
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Lars Fars
1 day ago
There are very few people like her around. She took a huge risk by going against her piers at uni . The definition of brave, So many takeaways from this interview. I guess i’ll have to watch it again!
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WhitePanties
23 hours ago
Good interview. Best of luck to Poppy Coburn in her career.

Sir Prancelot
1 day ago
Impressive. Thanks for the interview.
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Derrin Morton
1 day ago
£5.00
Good work as ever

Flick Meatwood
1 day ago (edited)
Cultural suicide. Decimation of morale. Severe pressure on public services. Increase in serious (and unsolved) crime. Suppression of wages. What’s not to like?..
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Sukerkin
13 hours ago
Glad to hear another person say out loud what I feel to be necessary – either we as a nation resume making our presence felt on the world stage … or we fade away.

des larcombe
3 hours ago
Spot on. I really do despair. What an amazing young woman! Clone her many many times.

F F
1 day ago
Poppy, you are correct
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Gail Platt
1 day ago
What an absolutely remarkable young lady.
A ray of hope for the country in a seemingly bleak era.

TGS
1 day ago
“Those whom the gods detest, they first make mad”

bendtrucker
1 day ago
I think the main problem is that the Tories making these decisions have never had to face the consequences of uncontrolled mass immigration up close and personal.
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Tim Whittome
16 hours ago
Wow, Poppy is great! She could be a lovely contributor to our Newspeak panel and alongside our Emma.
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I K
1 day ago
young women barely scratches the surface of the lies and corruption
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Stuart Hall
Stuart Hall
1 day ago
Yes, Poppy, there are a lot of us. Can we just about make it to the end of this “Conservative” government? For whom will we vote? I don’t know. We have NO party. (Did anyone see/manage to stay awake through Tice’s “Sunday Sermon” earlier?)
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Harold Hamilton
1 day ago
My wife worked here ìn Belfast and every non white student that walked though the doors the money that they were paying these young people were treated badly.and didn’t get the education that they were paying. For these kids.were.only seen as pound.sign and.this girl is spot on
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Peter Loxham
5 hours ago
Outstanding young lady who gives me hope for my grandchildren’s future!

yomarrobert
1 day ago
The snail that has come into my garden is a very unusual type of immigrant. He brought his own house.Still no sign of his own vet, translator,dentist ,car or space.Still,he has done wonders to my lettuce patch!
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Graham Bull
Graham Bull
1 day ago
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thomas robert
1 day ago
i always chuck them in the fish pond do you know that some of the little bar stewards manage to crawl out three times before kicking the under water bucket..

John Wade
1 day ago
Everyone knows this
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1 day ago
Fighting 8.5% inflation (more like 35%) with a 1% Fed funds interest rate is like stopping a forest fire with a bucket of water. Folks prepare accordingly. Make investment in other not to depend on the government for funds
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John coppinger
1 day ago
In the north east of England there are thousands of new houses being built to house the white flight from our post industrial towns which are being flooded with refugees because of the low rent costs . Everywhere you look there are new estates springing up .
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Max Smith
1 day ago
It’s terrible what people have done to the younger generations. I’m including myself in this as a millennial, but Gen Z have it even worse.
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Derek Bland
16 hours ago
Superb interview. There is hope but it starts with voting for something new

the1beard
1 day ago (edited)
and they wonder why house prices in London keep going up …
during a downturn people flock to London to find work…
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Ryan Hunter
Ryan Hunter
1 day ago
Crash incoming
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Kenneth Slade
23 hours ago
A very perceptive and intelligent young lady . I wish her well in a political future .
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K W
1 day ago
Why is no alternative news outlet of podcaster discussing the UN Migration Pact?
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Marie
1 day ago
Excellent discussion with reasoned argument from this young lady, mature beyond her years.
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Ray Mills
1 day ago (edited)
The tories certainly seem to be doing literally everything they possibly can to alienate all sections of potential tory voter.
I do think though, that this guest has missed something regarding the tories’ motivations for increasing immigration numbers, – I don’t believe that it is due to ‘humanitarianism’ (around 12 mins) – I think quite simply, mass immigration means a never ending pool of cheap labour (great for the bosses) and also, continual increases of consumers, who as a result of sheer numbers, will increase GDP (great for the politicians). None of which benefits us ordinary plebs.
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Baron Ortega
1 day ago (edited)
Tories have given 1 million visas to students and their dependents.
Let that sink in.
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Hairy Hillman
1 day ago
The problem we have is that the “Torries” currently arent conservative. They are trying to be new labour, the problem is Labour voters wont vote for them because, surprise surprise, they vote Labour, and conservatives are going to stop voting for them because the Torries are not conservative.
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Gary Marshall
1 day ago
When will the Darling of Culture Forum, Emma, be back on again ?
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Merlin3189
4 hours ago
As what sort of project did she describe journalism?
BTW this is great. On my second listen, which probably won’t be my last. So good to hear a young person with interesting thoughts.

Gail Jefferies
1 day ago
I don’t fully agree that we have no optimistic view of the future. The point is we have to pick it up and fight back to get the future we want for our grandchildren etc. Excellent interview, such an intelligent young woman. Thank you Peter for NCF

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Alister Edmond
1 day ago
A fantastic guest and a superb discussion.

Steven Homer
1 day ago
The starting point for any discussion on immigration is surely our & many other countries in the west problem of Demographics- we natives are in decline- it does not mean we flood the country with any one in a dinghy but it is an existential crisis that needs to be addressed & planned for even if it can be turned around over generations
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Baron Ortega
1 day ago
I hope more young people start to realise that Labour and successive governments have sold them down the river.
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Scorpio Rob
1 day ago
What a brilliant young lady.
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Tangle
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devlinX
1 day ago
Both problems are connected, the economy and immigration.
The Neoliberal order decided that in order to maintain their quasi Socialist system (Healthcare, Pensions, Welfare, education) they to maintain constant and unending economic growth. They have no intention thinking about growing the economy via increased productivity or innovation but rely entirely on importing as many people as possible. This hasn’t produced the intended results, the nations debt is growing exponentially along with crime, corruption and a bottoming out of living standards.
I think the problem is that the politicians cannot now admit to the fact that this system is a lie because the backlash would be catastrophic.
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steve howell
steve howell
15 hours ago
Top girl!

TGS
1 day ago
This country needs a Patriotic Alternative!
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Roger Alsop
18 hours ago
Marvellous young woman.
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Joyce Mcleod
1 day ago
Well spoken young lady
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Bradfordian
1 day ago (edited)
The political class are concerned only for “economic wealth” whilst the general public are much more concerned about “social health” but we aren’t heard because the political class haven’t represented the general public for decades, they listen only to their paymasters.
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Liz Latteman
1 day ago
I would vote for you now

John coppinger
1 day ago
Poppy said “that’s not how politics works” but unfortunately that’s EXACTLY how politics works
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joyce cutner
21 hours ago
Poppy is a very intelligent young lady.
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Chris Millar
1 day ago (edited)
Join us as Poppy desperately tries to not mention the word capitalism and as she finds a scapegoat for why the tories want more migration
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barrie Williams
1 day ago
TAT. Tories are Toast! Vote Reform
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Eyes Only
1 day ago
Well done! I’m a new fan of this Lady
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Ben Jamin
1 day ago (edited)
It’s almost laughable that Anne Marie Waters and the For Britain party were making all these same arguments (and many more)… but the New Culture Forum was more than happy to ignore their existence, at a time when it could actually have made a difference!
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marie parker
1 day ago
Recent events in Leicester: this is an example of our having one law for one group of people and another law for another group of people. When is this going to end?
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mogznwaz
1 day ago
I’m not against all immigration or against immigrants as individuals but numbers and culture and loyalty matter. Not to mention congestion, housing, hospitals etc. I cannot fathom how we ended up with whole areas, whole schools, not speaking English or having any understanding or loyalty to our culture. It’s insanity.
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Martin Lucky Bramah
1 day ago
To think that we can control the weather, in anyway at all, is grand hubris!
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Mark Jones
Mark Jones
1 day ago
Ever heard of cloud seeding? Control maybe not but manipulation yes
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Richard Abbot
14 hours ago
All the issues that matter are pre-approved at an international level, behind closed doors.
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SteveO
1 day ago
Smart girl – but a thicko like me has been saying this for years. Why send 50% to Uni, when there are not enough graduate level jobs around? Why have the taxpayer funding thousands of Criminology degrees? Why be surprised when girls take on careers & student debt, instead of starting a family when they are at their most fertile? Why not just cancel the “dependant” student visa? The answers are all quite simple, turn half Unis back into Colleges running courses for the skills we DO need, for UK students, at prices they can afford.
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Tavuzzi Pust
1 day ago
No, Vera, there won’t always be an England, it’s being turned intoi Zanzibar.
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John coppinger
1 day ago
Spot on Poppy

Elk Paz
2 hours ago
Lots of us have made the journey from leftie environmentalist to ‘the right.’ It’s helpful to know the mindset.

Mark Cross
1 day ago
If the global economy continues to grow at about 3.0% per year, we will consume as much energy and materials in the next ∼30 years as we did cumulatively in the past 10,000. Is such a scenario inevitable? Is such a scenario possible? – Nate Hagens · 2020
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David Adiwego
1 day ago
If more women like you, love, did what young women were meant to do, and if we all got real about natural death, i.e if we excepted our 3 score and 10 years and did not expect the state to keep us ticking over for 20-30 years after our retirement, this country wouldn’t need to import large numbers of workers/consumers.

Dave Edmondson
1 day ago
Fascinating and interesting guest.
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Bad Gnasher
1 day ago
What a fantastic young women.
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Summertime Sue*
1 day ago
Can I ask a question?seeing we can’t do anything about the boat arrivals,and suella bravermen has been told to leave it alone,I started looking at EU policies regarding this issue,and saw that this is operating just like one of the four pillars…I don’t think we have left it,we wasn’t even in the schenghen zone while we were in so it makes me wonder.Who can I ask about this subject? I object to pay more taxes while 5 million a day is spent on these people,that is a slap in the face to pensioners who had their pensions taken,and their working age raised.
Sorry for going on,just frustrated with it all.
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cyclist68
13 hours ago
I’ve reached the conclusion now that it’s a grand plan that all parties of the establishment are in on. To consistently never reduce numbers point to it. The only hope is that labour get in and massively up the numbers and in the process shake normal voters out of their lethargy.

Glenn Wilson
1 day ago
I think things are gradually changing towards immigration with this new bread of young people coming through

Aquila2018
1 day ago
There is hope
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Jonathan Sidaway
1 day ago
She’s a good thing. Impressive journalism. The housing-immigration interface, in particular, however, might be more complicated than she sketches: see the Himbonomics substack. For other, cultural reasons I want an immigration moratorium.
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harvey young
1 day ago
Good morning everyone.
Immigration through the context of the mini budget:
The mini Budget was always going to be a challenge to interpret in time to make any sort of timely and effective comment. Added to this i have had my bad back demon revisit me, and now its all change and unpredictability again. Most of the Criticisms came from the direction of “bad market reaction”, a sense of disorder and unpredictability, and as if, the Response of the Bank of England in accordance with its antecedent duty to apply its policy, was not a priori but “unpredictable”?. So we got al the usual suspects criticising it from behind the accusative mask of “risk” and “instability”, but the policy was also criticised in the same way by the unusual suspects of traditional friends. That is, both Tory MPs and Labour MP’s attacked it on the basis of incompetence with respect tot he market: that they call a market realism. So many Tory MPs were able to say their constituents didn’t like it, so its was rejected by the parliamentary party, and Labour MPs didn’t like t because it displays a lack of competence and so loss of trust, for investors to take a risk. So tactically this allowed Labour to claim to be the party of economic competence a reverence for the markets and to claim the Tories as incompetent. And so following this two fronted political critique they can amass positive data on the pound, on costs of borrowing, on pensions etc. They all could claim to criticise the Tax cuts refereeing to the 45% to 40%, but few have stressed that the poor have had tax cuts and energy cost protections.
My question is, are the above politically hegemonic Critics’ really the problem they all have with the budget? I believe the real explanation for the attack by all sides is that all sides reflect more the interests of the middle classes they both represent and are a member of. these interests primarily lie in this context, in the massive mortgage debts of the middle class London and south. Debts that on composition will prove to be unserviceable given the inevitable fall in production and wages. they were always massively over leveraged, but now in the new climate they are on a precipice, that under normal circumstances would mean a fall in the house prices and so negative equity. But we are not living in normal times and so, we must ask why haven’t the house prices fallen in the economic decline since 2008, especially since there is a massive gap between supply and demand, why no new house building. Its a paradox! Well there must be some artificial or several feed back structures embedded in the system to protect themselves. They include immediately the openness of the London Housing market to the rest of the worlds rich as expanded top end consumer demand base, and the mass immigration also as expanding low end consumer demand. but also we can add planning regulation particularly on green filed sites prevent new house building. So to under stand immigration we might do better by seeing just in the context of maintenance of artificial high house prices though expanded demand base. Perhaps all the talk of necessary workers and diversity is really a mask the middle class use to keep their house prices high. they feel they can separate themselves form any negative double effects as well, and can be silent on it effect to erode natural communication due to language and cultural difference i.e. the break up of the glue of civil society that back in the day would have had the cultural linguistic shared back ground to critique this kind of thing.
So yes the Tory middle class and the Labour middle class share a common economic imperative to stop this sort of thing, they just have to do it using other metrics and terminologies. They don’t say of course “Stop the budget because my and my friends my network friends risk loosing our unearned nest eggs” they say anything except this an all are on the same page media, international organisations etc. The Mini Budget protected the most vulnerable in many complex ways, but for once the middleclass were gong to have to take a risk hit for the first time its not a win win situation and they don’t like it. we see these parties are controlled by the middle class who disguise their real interests for being “in the care of the minorities” or “being productive for employment.
i mean this already seems a stretch of context for immigration debate, but to go further, the middle class for the most part are shielded form war. they are represented very low in standard military populations. indeed the tradition of just war looks like a series of principles whereby the poor can legitimacy kill each other, but if the war reaches them “civilians” then it is classed as unjust? And why all the mass middle class movement against the atomic bomb. Because it would impact them. they banned the gas because they realised it could be used against them in cities.
To get really dark, maybe the European Immigration is not just because the source country has paid to educate and train them to adulthood , but also because they might be seen as the new fodder for new European Wars. Because the indigenous male population are beginning to see that its a ridged game by the middle classes. And perhaps they don’t think the New Rights turn to Stoicism and Heroism is going to work as 21st Century” white feather any more.
Thanks for reading . Looking Forward tot he discussion.
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Mr Ror
1 day ago
What do you mean by ‘middle class’? ?

harvey young
1 day ago
​ @Mr Ror ​ I have a long answer to your question here. the second half i accidentally deleted before saving and i have tried to rewrite it but i’m tiered now. I’m not happy with it but i will post what i have done cos if i don’t i probably will never finish it anyway. i will try and redo it if i can later.
Mr Ror i am trying to think about this “class” not in terms of a definition e.g. a set of necessary and sufficient properties, and/or a determinant that will include and exclude those in and those out (either/or, a disjunctive) or that is given by some substantial like wealth that would be vague and is really now dissolved into networks
Rather it is first a position of a “representor” that is also the middle terms in the old syllogistic term logic (Kant). Thus anyone is always both represented and representor. Rather it is belter tot think of it in terms of station responsibility and duty. this is what is really prior to any definition or extension. so it is not sociological in the first instance, as would be used in either pre compiling of metric data or of an radical empiricist type like Michel Seers on Algorithms,.
i want the notion of duty and responsibility (but not transcendent cost or debt free). Rather it is to be linked to their scope of collective action and power (the who they represent and how they act on). from there we enter the vocabulary of metaphysics of formal structures and action (adverbial the who and the how.) its is about who can do what. like the Ancient human Semi-Gods who action though institutions have like a God like power of scope and effect compared to an image of individual Aristotelian action. i raise my arm to answer a question in a military meeting, or to signal the army to move forward, or to get a bar tender my attention.
with this metaphysical view it brings in notions of force coercion though concepts in contracts as immediate.. here the notion of a voluntary and involuntary contact can come into view i a way it does so only medially though definitions and empirical extensions. i mean you have to add the idea of force surreptitiously to the wealth differences etc. lie a Deux Machina in a story. this makes the power and coercion look accidental. to talk of power here though is not Foucault because i want t retain the quasi logical epistemological image of a whole of the community which is not available for Foucault’s relations of micro power. the field of representation does not contain the dimension of force and power in itself. to retain something of the social contract tradition we must look at the metaphysical level of forces: freedom and determinism as the old division has i want to retain in a demythologised way beyond he Natural necessity verses Aristotelian sue generic acts.) To draw this out i have to recognise that in our ordinary lives we recognize a reflex with only habit and its space of movement not authorship is the issue. its space of movement is one dimension no freedom in the situation. on the other hand is the also abstract idea of a completely free costless debtless act that does not even have to care for itself. an extreme but illusory absolute freedom. as we move inwards then to be in a state of poverty has a metaphyseal and normative aspect not given in data of wealth or even differences in wealth. wealth and status (duty responsibility) give also only apparent complete freedom. Because they are bound to act though apparatus they are dependent on and must act on an object not a brute force but care (from working in a pottery factory production line with robots not too good at handling delicate un-fired Clay. thus the relations of middle to lower class is here not in the data which is a symptom of it from the positions of transcendental philosophy but of course the numbers and money do make a difference and a difference to the content but not before the metaphysics of force reciprocity agent patent . cause effect.
a Disenchanted world view in thinking only of epistemology takes the metaphysics of human nature and action as given by behavioural psychology. this science of man is the par dime of the modern world framing economic law and politics and is the substantial to their claims to have a perfect image of ourselves for us to live up to ie the poor are the “is” they are the “ought”. as in Hobbes the old virtue and vice possibilities of the one body are split along the syllogism into the poor as abstract vice and the middle class as abstracted virtue.(substitute rights claims here and as the modern world as made vice the human out of duty, ie self interest, and placed virtue as the human in duty as the management of the self interst level though law rights unity etc by causes.
here then we can see a point of intersection of the vocabularies of vice and virtue with there separated abstract versions in science as subjects and objects of self interest verses, you know, the scientists as and custodian of our “better natures” as they would have it. eg when a contract is made and we say necessarily, we mean they had virtually no degrees of freedom in the world, but this would manifest at he scientific level as the best example and the standard for a causal law of a action subject to causes not thought not thought cos no degree of freedom for thoughts action. so there in the real world a point here where it i close to the behavioural scientific image of man.
the middle class are then the managers and users relation where their action are though duties and so are a one many relation a nomological scope of the structure of action. which makes them the dolphin trainer not the dolphin.
my notion of the middle class then must incorporate immediately all these scientific metaphysical and law like aspects as well as the position on a virtue and vice separation. all pollical policy and action though institutions and so on take the behavioural sciences and the political model for granted they never question it. its hidden by the myth of data. the middle class use forms and contracts as if forcing objects akin to physics.
the distinction is one then of science metaphysics and access to it in its power duty and scope.
political policy must work on this level of metaphysics and science and the numbers and data will follow. We make the how and the who key. how they work at a distance and the who who is responsible, as the science is an excuse and exculpation for them at the moment. let alone the complexity of passing the buck, and anonymity of double effect , what they call unintended consequences that they ca even strategize in.
Representations and definition then hide mask the syllogistic form of the state and the metaphysical image of man that goes with it now.
the Term “middle class” then is thought of as a sociological term that requires a definition for such sociological analysis and conceptual clearness for data organisation. It would be a term in representation that misses that they are the representors and hold power cause and meaning though the above mythologies. In the real world it is intrinsic to duties and certain virtues, that would appear if at all in representation as just some contingent property by some other definition. Even our rights meant as a limit to the middle classes are held by the middle class and as positive rights can be used against us even,
I am after placing these terms out of there scientific use alone. that is to de formulise them. but neither does this mean to drop the image of the social contract. i mean the world is not made up of random disconnected parts organs and people just in buildings there is logical normative structure with metaphysical connections and determination here not just simple human relations like in a soap opera. Husserl talks of abandoning the natural attitude that would just describe people in buildings as empirical. neither is the world like things in a living room, but there is an aesthetic to the whole neither formal or natural excepts at its limits where humans are near absolute freedom :impossible, or absolute necessity impossible here the science representations meet at the real world of forced choice and complete causal power with immunity. the normative image of man as science law economic has it lives only in the extremes of the real world. but the supply demand curve necessities this as aggregated price means everybody is either in degrees of freedom or degrees of necessity. the science seems to demand we approach this closer and closer because of te need for causal stability and order and prediction. we will have to become the free and the necessity for the sake of sciences for sake of right and/or sake of utility. degrees of freedom in duty verses frames of necessity, power and scope of action verses being a subject of force. .
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Mr Ror
10 hours ago
@harvey young are you a postmodernist and a troll? A yes or no answer will suffice.

Thanos
1 day ago
It’s only a matter of time before a new party arises that truly tends to the needs and desires of the indigenous populations of the UK. We should follow in Italy’s footsteps.
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Evola’s Sunglasses
1 day ago
Watch the EU establishment and markets destroy her.
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Dawn Emile
1 day ago
I think politicians look to cities like New York and believe that if they imitate their demographic, they will achieve similar cultural and economic success.

rocky76dude
1 day ago
A bettie and talks sense
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David David
1 day ago
It’s funny how this young women sounds like she’s only just realised all of this. Makes you wonder about the education system
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paul flanagan
paul flanagan
1 day ago
It does not matter what people think or say if they don’t have influence. So yes it’s good to hear this being acknowledged but what good will it do?

Peter France
1 day ago
Question: In the face of the evident betrayal and corruption in high places would you prefer living under a regime like that enjoyed in Russia? The earnest asking of this question speaks volumes in itself.

Vici Cooper
10 hours ago
I really don’t think the governments are letting people in due to their humanitarian impulses. Two reasons: our falling demographics and the need for cheap labour (note, the last because we have not invested in new technology).

D L Bowes
1 day ago
Poppy for pm
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Leah
1 day ago
Tories indifference to the problems of the avg UK citizen is deafening as well as odious. I shall not be voting for them at the next election, nor of the other political parties
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deb walls
1 day ago
Lovely young Lady, Thankyou for speaking sense about immigration. Its a disgrace.
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Archie McBerry
1 day ago
The Tory Party with all this flip-flopping needs to sell a Tory Flip-Flop Pancake Mix. “Mix it up and flip-flop a few times and a Tory Breakfast.”

Kevin Etheridge
1 day ago (edited)
People voted brexit to take back control of our borders, we assumed wrongly that would lead to less MUCH less immigration not more. I’m not surprised I did think that leavers would be just as upset as remainers in the end. The night after the vote Darren Hanan (I think that’s his name might be Darryl) was on newsnight saying leaving the eu might not mean less immigration (and he was a prominent leaver) I thought then hold on this isn’t what people voted brexit for.
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Business Pins
1 day ago
encouraging

Lewis Hamilton
1 day ago (edited)
As Poppy says here “it can be done” – which was one of Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery’s favorite lines. It can be done, it should be done, it must be done; and by god it will be done. A London-centric currency exchange market, and a culture and demography in freefall. Britain can do so much better than this.
Britain must radically change, it must reinvent itself culturally, and constitutionally; it must regain its sense of itself. I don’t know about a ‘superpower’, but there is no reason Britain cannot maintain and expand its position as a world power; it could be as big as Japan, if it wished to be. Those who who’ve cheered on Britain’s decline are yesterday’s men.
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Mark Hutton
14 hours ago
“…now it’s just decline …” as evidenced by the attack on the Truss/Kwarteng plan for growth.

Dominic H
6 hours ago
I have to say as a white working class Englishman living in London who has watched the working class community that I grew up become gentrified I watched this interview with great interest.
The real immigrants that I have an issue with are the middle class white people who emigrate to London. They keep to themselves, don’t wish to integrate and keep to themselves and certainly don’t wish to mix with the working classes. Something to be fair, they are entitled to do. A fair proportion have a massive sense of entitlement and due to working in the professions and/or having parental subsidies they push up rents and working people find themselves priced out of their communities.
Gentrification took place in London long before mass immigration and I would argue that it has been just as detrimental and devisive to communities if not more so than immigrants from other parts of the world.
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Billy Moffat
22 hours ago
Poppy whenever you want to take on these establishment puppets, give me a shout you will have my vote. GB a superpower again now that’s progress.

Fraxzor
1 day ago
We should be having numerous referendums on things like immigration and net zero (look how many Switzerland have had), but who knows when we will be allowed to have a say again. Before 2016 the elite ruling class were happy for us to vote for the status quo, but as soon as we vote for change they decide no we’re not allowed to have a say anymore. They also constantly undermine what we voted for in 2016, I honestly don’t think we live in a democracy. We are being made to fight each other in this left vs right war while our so-called leaders enrich themselves with power from outside the country that tell them what to do.
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Mark Johnson
1 day ago
Farmland is an amazing place for biodiversity. It is being appropriated for massive building projects. This is the destruction of our environment that is happening before our very eyes and no one says a damn about it.

BastardSprinkler3000
1 day ago
More Poppy pls

Peter Stephenson
1 day ago
Would any government escape being whipped to shreds by the media if it announced it was withdrawing the UK from the ECHR? Human rights sounds so desirable. Cancelling human rights sounds dastardly. The real explanation of why we should leave would be beyond too many people and the media fuss will spawn “social facts” in the liberal cafés, making it impossible to leave.
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Philippe De Fague
23 hours ago
They haven’t “betrayed” anyone. They have done exactly what they intended to do. The public have had multiple opportunities to vote in better parties and the “strategic voter” has sank the ship time after time after time. Even When BP won the Euro elections, indicating the greater popularity of alternative politics, people still voted in the people who were dedicated to destroying Brexit.

Zefangmeister Bob
2 hours ago
Foreign students move to uk – do cheap course – move to New Zealand – two years – move to Australia
Meanwhile here in Australia we also have at least 30 percent foreign students for the money instead of our own children
Then to many of the foreign students go home and we have too few doctors and dentists and white doctors are imported from uk
What a circle…..
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Norfolk Sceptic
1 day ago (edited)
Children have no right to demand anything when they haven’t even bothered to understand the Science involved, and that requires conversations between all people of good will, not pushing the BBC agenda.
Environmental issues look complex if you are devoid of relevant Scientific knowledge.
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hib3032
16 hours ago
Nail on the head springs to mind

Keyboard Dancers
1 day ago
Britain needs more ultra low waged barbers, car wash attendants, nail bar assistants, vegetable pickers, care workers and fast food delivery drivers. The Conservatives know this deficit is being filled via irregular migration which is why they maintain the logisitical, financial and legal support mechanisms for people who arrive in the country in this manner. Mick Lynch of the RMT Union has voiced his concern very publically regarding the negative impact of cheap foreign labour on the British low wage employment market. Immigration is NOT a left vs right issue.
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WhitePanties
1 day ago
For some reason it became fashionable in some circles to be in favour of immigration, as a test of virtue.

Vaughan Ellis
1 day ago
Its also been noted that the majority of ‘Stop Oil protesters’ and not only over 60 but that they also MIDDLE CLASS.
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Brian Lopez
1 day ago
Someone should check out Roger Hallam’s solid stone Farmhouse in Carmarthenshire
with the recorded Energy Performance Certificate grade G – the worst lacking ANY insulation ?!
Roger how could you ? YOU should be setting a good example before you block the streets.

JR
1 day ago (edited)
Standards of living are decreasing because of immigration.
I’m an Civil Engineer by trade a specialist Sub contractor. My career has meant I’ve worked with every major house builder in Britain in most cities and towns. I’ve worked with all levels from the lowly ground labour man all the way up to the directors of these companies. I personally have designed at least 30 homes a week, over a year that’s over a thousand. Everyone in the industry says the housing growth has never been so good. Building in quantity and also profits. The housing companies cannot grow/expand fast enough to meet the demand! Most marketing execs and salesman often sell the home before its even built, they go like hot cakes. Reading the housing industry articles we build on average 200,000 a year. All different types and sizes. And that’s a lot. So the question has to be asked why is Demand so high? Where did I come from? And Why Now?
Demand because the population is growing. In 2011 the last census counted 63.26million
In 2022 it’s projected at 67.44million.
4.18 million difference. For scale That’s the size of four Birminghams in 10 years. Bloody hell!
So the next logical question is why is the population growing. Is it due more children being born or immigration? The clearest way to assess this is to look at birth rates.
For a constant/stable population without in or out migration requires 2.1 births per woman. This mean it takes two children to replace two parents in the statistics. 0.1, is a bit more because as it accounts for deaths in the long term. (Look up some videos on population demographics if need to know more).
The UK birth across those 10yrs has been less than 2.1, now it’s 1.64 children per woman.
In conclusion we can blame politicians, companies, house builders, councils etc. But the fundamental reason. Immigration is causing the housing problem and why your children can’t afford a home to start a family themselves.
And I’m not going to lie. Building stuff is what I do. General construction everywhere is growing not just housing. All because of the larger population. Roads, sewers, telecoms and everything we have it’s always more, more, more. We don’t know how live within our means.
I truly think governments have been using immigration to reduce wages (the immediate standards of living) with the hope that home Equity values will increase. Because we like our homes to go up in value & we release equity to compensate for our awful state pensions. However this is at the expense of the youth and young families.
All of our governments only do shortermism.
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michael stanwick
1 day ago
From her description, it seems as if successive governments have been intentionally saying one thing but in fact acting out another. Why this is so is perplexing, unless perhaps there is some hidden feature or policy of the EU, for example, that is still operating with the UK and that the UK is abiding by. and that is untouched by Brexit.
Would this explain why successive governments have talked the talk on immigration but not walked the walk?

Bob Bob
1 day ago
Yot Labour get a dinghy diver as a neighbour vote conservative get two dinghy divers vote lib get three. You pay they stay.
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Sebastian Kyte
Sebastian Kyte
1 day ago
Excellent interview.
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Alistair Newton
1 day ago
Nailed it Bob Bob, decided to sell my property & move into rented accommodation in a nice area, give the children some money, take as many holidays as possible, the political establishment are not remotely interested in what concerns the public.
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Peter Hurwood
18 hours ago
Great interview! An uncomfortable reminder of how UNCONSERVATIVE the Conservative Party are!
We don’t want a free fire all when it comes to immigration.
We don’t want large groups of immigrants imposing their cultured habits on British society.
We don’t want the hugely damaging economic effects of the unachievable quest for net zero emissions. As the interviewee correctly states, this is nothing more than managed economic decline.
Combine this with the mass importation of low skilled people, who are largely dependent on welfare and the road ahead looks bleak! A great burden on an already hard pressed younger generation! (4 out of every 5 Muslim migrants does not/cannot work).
And we don’t want the divisive left wing orthodoxy of political correctness and Wokeness. These are an affront to free speech and British cultural values. A largely racist attempt at manipulation of public attitudes!
The silent majority have really had enough of this. Desperate for a leader with vision and conviction, who won’t be bullied by globalist influences, such as the WEF or the UN! Who’ll treat the hysterical mainstream media with the contempt they deserve, that will have the courage to restore political neutrality to our institutions, who will put our security first. A leader that will advocate for personal freedoms and responsibility.
NO MORE FAKE TORIES PLEASE!!!
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AUSTIN BourkeAUSTIN Bourke
1 day ago
Truss is now showing cognitive decline if she thinks that

Will Fletch
1 day ago
Scrap the quangos and make their employees take up jobs that we reserve for immigrants. Abolish Local education authorities and apply a £8 minimum wage for 16 year old school leavers to encourage the never ending desire for university to be binned
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Steve T
Steve T
1 day ago (edited)
The problem nowadays is that nobody can have a reasoned arguement on anything without being shouted down as a fascist or something. Obviously most economies need some sort of legal immigration based on the needs of the economy, before we even look at cultural impacts. The problem is importing vast amounts of cheap labour based on real deep structural issues in the UK economy is maybe great for big companies but a crap deal for the state and actual people themselves. The state needs to provide infrastructure, housing, schooling etc.. which they aren’t doing or can’t. The simplistic arguement that it increases GDP is a fallacy. It deflates the already awful productivity we have in the UK. Have a look at our wages to GDP ratio, it’s awful for a developed economy. Companies need to innovate, people need to re-educate themselves post school, people who won’t work need to do some of these jobs, and the incentives need to be given to spread people and businesses around the country. Anyone illegally entering or misusing visas need to be instantly deported.
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Alan Hill
Alan Hill
1 day ago
I don’t suppose homeless count as in need of any social good?
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Colin Feltham
1 day ago
No point such intelligent speakers on NCF when we need them in influential political positions.

Mark Edwards
1 day ago
We are heading toward a third of the country being immigrants.
I can’t imagine where the housing crisis is coming from.
Not to mention basic education, healthcare, dentistry, transport infrastructure, food crisis, energy crisis, crime, drugs, etc etc

Bertrand Ruskin
1 day ago
Does anyone else feel it’s now brave to speak on any issue that the woke establishment has put its seal on?

rieslingplatz
1 day ago
Love that phrase. I want to see Britain a superpower again.
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Tony Ling
1 hour ago
Not too much AQI/HRT which I am grateful for

Mark Hutton
14 hours ago
Don’t think that the wipe out of the Tories is a done deal.
That said.
As someone who has only ever voted Tory, I won’t vote vote for them again after the events of last week.
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Dawn Emile
1 day ago
Older people still have a long time to live.

Barrie Jackson
1 day ago
Very grounded young woman – intelligent and articulate with a proper understanding of just how our political class have been saying one thing (like take back our borders) whilst lying to us all the time and doing exactly the opposite. She also appeared to understand that other countries, like Singapore, operate a much harder line with their work visas. She has a great political future if she can hold that line, alongside the likes of Kemi Badenoch. Ironic isn’t it that the only ones with any fight in them are young women!
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DoubleDowner
12 hours ago
I think I might hate Boris as much as I hate Blair.

Ian Paling
1 day ago
“Dishonest” euphemism of the century, they are outright LIARS in this game for purely selfish reasons ie self enrichment and self preservation.
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M. K.
1 day ago
These people were elected to control immigration and what have they done? supinely allowed it to get worse. I believe it was a major reason for the Tories red wall support and that is about to crumble quite apart from economics. The feeling is Labour will be as bad but might. as well have them and more attention to economics for the poorer sections of society.

J W
1 day ago
Immigration should be under 5,000 for the next 100 years.
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Andy Hope
1 day ago
Stop the tradition of reductionist thinking, and encourage our leaders, managers and farmers to train in holistic management and learn to manage our country and the businesses therein in a context of the whole and not concentrating on individual programs with no interest in the unplanned and unintended consequences of their actions, due to not having planned with the understanding the decision might be the wrong one, and needs constant re appraisal.

Ian Cognito
1 day ago
Our obsession with net zero : We won’t have our own energy industry but will get it from another country?
It’s like me saying I am a vegetarian but will have meat from the bloke next door.
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Norfolk Sceptic
1 day ago
It’s OK, all the European countries are planning to do the same

Dissonantia Cognitiva
1 day ago (edited)
The funny bit is the pyramid scheme that government is:
– they measure wealth on GDP
– import migrants left right and center to increase GDP
– this increase in labour competition lowers wages
– also the migrants being imported consume more in benefits than they pay in taxes since they are mostly the concentrated at the lower end of the job market
– this makes the country poorer, but hey, GDP is increasing
– people getting poorer because of wage suppression with inflation?
– the housing market excluded from inflation indexes thus refering the inflation figures meaningless at best and an out right lie at worse
– the increase in migration also causes the property market to become unsustainable and it damages both the natives and the migrants, migrants are a cash cow for landlords
Overall these are all fake measures of economic strength:
– GDP? Why not NDP? A net figure is a real one
– CPI, RPI? None of these indexes now mean a thing and all it takes is taking things out to suppress the inflation figures
– governments need to be measured in net domestic product, purchasing parity power and real inflation indexes that include the most expensive thing spend money on: housing
And on climate, not it should not be left to government, that is asking for corruption and idiocy
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Evola’s Sunglasses
1 day ago
Conservatives: we increased GDP but lost European Civilisation
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Serevin Vukele
1 day ago (edited)
A lot of MPs simply don’t want women to have children because they think it harms their careers despite this being illegal. The way for women not to have children is import millions of working age people to do jobs then kids are not required. Unfortunately, we all get old and without kids, as we are seeing, the costs become astronomical and society suffers. The MPs therefore have set themselves against the public with some of them, Remainers like Truss and Hunt, take us back into freedom of movement within the EU but as Poppy says this has tragic consequences too. Might end up with civil war. Very bad times guys.
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Charlie Buttocks
1 day ago
Surely Blair didn’t get in till 1997 not 1992

Gary Padiham
1 day ago
Britain needs to aim to have a population of over 100 million up from the present 67 million. With a population of 100 million its GDP will be half as much again.

Lulabelle Gnostic
1 day ago
The indigenous people of this country have paid, through taxation, for thousands of years, for the infrastructure we have. Why should an immigrant walk into this country and enjoy all the benefits we have paid for for nothing? Anyone coming to the UK should be charged at least £100,000K as soon as they hit Heathrow. The rest of them, so called ‘ asylum seekers’ need to be put on the next flight back, and their country of origin billed for the whole process.
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marie parker
1 day ago
You CANNOT have unlimited immigration and a welfare State. You have to choose which one you are going to have. You cannot have both.
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TheKiddy3
1 day ago
What a lovely young woman, I wish she were a couple of years older so I could introduce her to my son!

S North
1 day ago
Unfortunately, It really is going to come down to the people to sort out the mess of third world immigration. Start to come to terms with what is required, and prepare accordingly.

John Leyden
1 day ago
These kind of discussions are all well and good ,but how about giving a voice to the working class who bear the brunt of mass immigration. I’m sure the lady is very concerned she’s very middle class

marie parker
1 day ago
I understand that the Social Democratic Party has an anti-immigration policy. It proposes a moratorium on immigration for a number of years.

orkney ancestor
1 day ago
To overtake on the home and job ladder, play the diversity and race cards.
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J
13 hours ago
I don’t think being anti-immigration and pro Jeremy Corbyn is as weird a juxtaposition as all that. Both positions are in opposition to the powers-that-be, particular money power.

pobinr
1 day ago
Immigration’s great if you like more greenbelt concreted over & more traffic jams plus loads of other problems
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Steven Farrall
1 day ago
Johnson is not a ‘libertarian’. Libertine, probably. Truss just seems economically clueless. Libertarians fundamentally believe in property rights. In fact it is the core of libertarianism. Un-checked immigration is exactly not libertarian because it does not in any way respect property rights.
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Radical Centrist God
1 day ago
One thing that keeps the conservatives from actually doing anything is the fact an industry has been built around immigration, we’d like to think our MPs are not corruptible but when you take a look at Ian Hislops hearing in parliament where he exposes the fact that companies are basically blackmailing MPs on a range of issues, the question then becomes where else is this happening and given how much funding Serco is given…you have to wonder if there is not some sort of similar occurrence regarding immigration. How many companies now have hired illegal immigrants for a lower wage without disclosing it? I think we’ll find quite a bit if any kind of investigation is done. Its the only way to explain how over a million people some how aren’t just roaming the street.
Its time the conservative MPs gained some discipline and flatly refuse these quiet urgings from companies and corporations. Its time to stamp out the corruption in parliament and if the Tories cannot do that, then they are done.
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jason kempson
1 day ago (edited)
House of cards propped up with mass immigration, the economy is the problem that makes it necessary to take in extra people.
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golfbulldog
1 day ago
if you talking immigration, you need to look at the UN document from circa 2000 which tackles PSR. They, the UN, suggested replacement migration as a solution to the impending PSR crisis… Poppy, you need to tackle PSR. You have made a great start but tackle the data, not just the talking points.
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golfbulldog
1 day ago
you mentioned that Blair had net migration of about 200,000 pa…. now look at that UN document and see what they predicted for the UK to maintain PSR of 3.0….about 250k net migrants per annum… bang on target.
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DanDob
1 day ago
What is PSR?
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golfbulldog
1 day ago (edited)
@DanDob wow, I did reply to you but it obviously triggered some censor…. it was harmless response… basically potential support ratio (PSR) is the ratio of tax payers (contributors) to dependents (tax spenders)…. the more elderly and young who require support, the more money you need to have paid in as tax….that usually means more people paying tax …hence migration to supposedly help pay that tax….it is, of course, not the only solution to this issue. Japan is trying technology…
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golfbulldog
1 day ago
@DanDob use Internet search for…

golfbulldog
1 day ago
UN PDF

golfbulldog
1 day ago
Replacement
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golfbulldog
1 day ago
Migration

DanDob
1 day ago
@golfbulldog thank you. Wouldn’t they be better incentivising people to have more kids and heaven forbid a parent stays at home and looks after them. I’m sure that’s what we used to do
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golfbulldog
1 day ago
@DanDob dead right, one option not discussed….look at the executive summary…table 1, lower section (annual numbers) for UK under scenario V….it suggests 273,000 annual migrants to stop PSR dropping below 3… obviously the less people contributing tax, the more taxbthey will pay… we can create more kids but they need education….we could use technology to make less people more productive…. but the UN looks at migration and THEY coin the term ” replacement migrxxtion”
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rastapingpong
1 day ago
It’s either evil, stupidity or both

bcfc18751
1 day ago
Who do we have in politics who is a patriot… Paul Golding…Britain First
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Jujutrini
1 day ago
How many council houses have been built in the last 12 years (or even since 1997!)?
How much do foreign/overseas students pay for student fees ie what is the percentage of their fees in comparison to the homegrown students?
Why do they give two year visas for masters degree students – is it so that post grad ( highly educated) workers can work in the country?
How much do they spend on people who work the borders ie the Immigration office? I suspect that they have not increased the spending when they say they are doing more to protect the borders – show us the figures!
Employers who employ illegal immigrants could be punished harshly if the authorities really cared. Don’t blame the immigrants blame the bosses.
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alan wren
14 hours ago

Tim Cowell
1 day ago
Proportional Representation is what we need, then maybe we won’t be stuck for choice between a left wing pro-EU party and a slightly less left wing pro-EU party. Brexit was supposed to bring about change and we are where we where 5 years ago.

Dead Calm
1 day ago
Can I use the intro instrumental?

David Adiwego
1 day ago
We get the political leaders we deserve.
They (e.g Johnson, Truss) don’t think it’s a social good…They’re not doing mass immigration for the sake of migrants. They don’t see ANY difference between British people and non-British people. The nation, as many people still perceive it to be, is a quaint notion in the minds of the likes of Johnson and Truss. Besides, 60 years of women’s socioeconomic liberation + contraception and liberalised abortion, combined with the increased lifespan of (often state dependant) elderly, has resulted in bellow-replacement birth rates and an aging population. So, it’s import fresh blood or resort to a radical ‘pro-life’, anti-women’s-lib approach, plus de-prioritize state healthcare for pensioners. Obviously, it’s a million times more politically expedient to import fresh blood, and just continuously BS the base and concerned citizens about anti-immigration policies
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Hereward the Outlaw
1 day ago
The framing of the immigration problem is wrong. We should not be talking about limiting and by how much, that just sounds negative. We should be talking about balanced immigration, that is net zero, as a target. Balance sounds better than limits.
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Charlie Buttocks
1 day ago
Come and spend a day in Boston lincs and you will get a clue to what’s going on in the country
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This Guy
9 hours ago
It would be nice if indigenous Brits had representation in government.

teknical100
1 day ago (edited)
She doesn’t she just does as she is told.

davout71
18 hours ago
Wow what a parallel with NZ. Under our supposedly conservative govt up until 2016 our housing became a commodity to wealthy immigrants and the prices went beyond your average Kiwi. Ownership is at an all time low. We now have a left govt but the “conservative” opposition is aching and pushing to open the flood gates in the name of growth. Where will all the people go? As in UK people only talk of supply as far as housing goes but supply never matches the demand. Also in our media and govt immigration is always an absolute good with no negatives.
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DN Stone
16 hours ago
Take care of your beautiful country, luckily you only have 5 million population, while the UK has 70 million, despite only being the same size as New Zealand.

jumble stiltskin
1 day ago
The sectarian violence in Leicester made me think back to the Northern Ireland troubles, which to my mind almost DEFINES the notion of sectarianism. Yet, despite that we did not see pitched battles on the mainland with Catholics and protestants fighting. On the other hand these kerfuffles with the Muslim lot and the Hindus breaks out quite regularly. Living near Birmingham also shows me this happening within the “ghettos” in lozells, handsworth etc.
So if in the case of the catholic/protestant troubles we didnt see it, why then does it bubble quickly with south asians?
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saптоsн ッ
saптоsн ッ
21 hours ago
Bring more pakistani and see why it happens . Its not just britain , its everywhere like sweden , france , nroway , Belgium, spain . Main culprit is islam

Horizon
1 day ago
The only solution is an IMMIGRATION REFERENDUM..
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Zoltan Rudolf
19 hours ago (edited)
Sorry my dear, but young people ARE NOT moving towards more radical ideologies but middle aged and old people definitely ARE! Both Labour and the Conservatives are both dangerously woke, while generations Y and Z are devoting themselves to patriotism, religion and tradition!

Strontium Dog
10 hours ago
Student visas have always been the back door to immigrants, particularly in healthcare

p pullman
1 day ago
Great sensible discussion, thank god we have a younger person who has her own mind and hasn’t been woke or looney left brainwashed. Keep it up New Culture Forum!

Steve Great
1 day ago
Poppy has brains and class.. They will tear her apart.
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Zara
1 day ago
If you have degree speak perfect English and can easily socialize with all jump on a plane then walk to USA

Steven Farrall
1 day ago
High Rents are not soley or even in a major way because immigration. It has most to do with other government failures like bad money, bad tax policy (taxing production / directly subsidising or simply under-taxing land), ZIRP, QE etc etc.

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Baron Ortega
1 day ago
You think population pressure doesn’t have a major effect on “affordable” housing supply? Ok.
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Rich Jones
1 day ago
Referendum on Immigration.
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Ian Faust
15 hours ago (edited)
Apart from a pretty face and her positive desire for the future of Britian there is nothing very intelligent or novel about her boilerplate nativism.
The facts are quite irrefutable globally that legal immigration is and has been a HUGE economic positive for the West. This is why Australia, Germany, Canada and the USA are all eager to have LEGAL immigration at all skill levels. This distinction between Legal and illegal is what makes all the difference in outcomes.
The whinning about rents in London has more to do with the anticompetitive Zoning and regulations in London that restrict building skyscrapers and denser housing. Also, compared to Europe, London is hardly more populous than metropolitan Paris.
The UK has more fundamental problems than immigration – its main problem is that apart from London , there has been no real attempt to reimagine and adapt Britain to the 21st century. Midlands cities are worse than many cities in the developing world and infrastructure is in shambles across much of the nation. The abdication of the State has been complete in many areas of governance making ghettos normalised.
Its fraudulent to blame the violence in Leicester on “lack of integration” – because there is no “Britain” in many parts of the country to integrate with! The State is absent, the police just specators and its but natural that communities take matters into their own hands!
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Mr Ror
11 hours ago
Reading your argumentation has given me the image of a dog chasing its own tail.

Ian Faust
10 hours ago (edited)
@Mr Ror Thats nice to know – Im sure that thought brought you some comfort from the devastation of learning the truth.

Mr Ror
10 hours ago
@Ian Faust the truth can be summed up to the image of a dog chasing its own tail. So, the truth you stated was never and never will be a viable solution.

Ian Faust
7 hours ago
@Mr Ror Its nice you love dogs so much, just dont go overboard.
Also – Facts dont care about your feelings.

Mr Ror
7 hours ago
@Ian Faust I don’t recall sharing any of my feelings in response to the facts you state as the truth. I’m just astounded at the logic of your argumentation. I’m curious to know what solutions you propose. Unless you think there are only accepted facts, and no solutions are worth considering as they might divulge how you feel about the way a society should organise.

Ian Faust
6 hours ago
@Mr Ror You seem to have shared plenty of disdain about my arguments yet with no counter arguments or meaningful critiques from your end.
If you have indeed read my comment it would be clear what solutions would look like be it in terms of how to handle immigration or how to handle the lack of affordable accomodation in London town.
The conceit of saying nothing while dismissing an argument out of hand has been yours alone.
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Mr Ror
5 hours ago
@Ian Faust I was pointing out the paradoxes in your argumentation. You can’t state that the UK and other Western countries have hugely benefited economically from mass legal migration and then point out issues relating to affordable housing and law & order. To me, this doesn’t add up. Your assertion about the huge economic benefits of legal migration is often disputed. Immigrants are not a monolith. Your point also disregards the cultural and educational baggage (or lack thereof) of the said immigrants – and their descendants. Now if you think economic benefit is limited to GDP growth, you might have a point. On housing, demand drives house prices up, so a fast expanding population resulting from continuing high levels of Immigration pushes up demand (concentrated in urban areas) resulting in pauperisation. Finally, pauperisation leads to the necessity for more public spending to support an ever growing number of “mouths to feed”. This in itself is a hellish spiral. And now the best bit, economic prosperity is only possible if there is trust between the members of a society, or if there is law & order. You don’t build a prosperous society by bringing in people with various different cultures who have little to no interest in integrating, this will ultimately create friction that can only damage an economy.
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Martyn Jones
10 hours ago
The painful truth for many with ingrained nationalism and bigotry is that immigration is vital for growth. The choice now is whether we rejoin the single market and allow immigration of our neighbours, or whether we ship-in boat loads of people from Africa and Asia. There is no other option, unless we are to descend to the status of second division economy.

Siobhan McGregor
20 hours ago
Enoch Powell had a few objections in 1968…

PGH Engineer
1 day ago
The working class people that voted for Brexit wanted all the Polski and Romanians sent home, not told they could live here forever, take all the jobs and all the low cost housing and then bring the rest of their family over too.
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Youtube Youtube
Youtube Youtube
1 day ago
Maybe but too many of the working class expect to be given stuff rather than work for it.

PGH Engineer
1 day ago
@Youtube Youtube They aren’t stupid. They know whatever benefits they get are taken by the one hand and given by the other, bribed by their own money, quality of life deteriorating every year.

captain of hope
1 day ago
It seems that the tories serve those who dont like or vote for them, rather than those who do.

Susanna Marker
1 day ago (edited)
Controlled immigration is a social good, not uncontrolled EU immigration and illegal migrants. The UK was forced into the EEC by the USA. That’s why we never got a referendum on joining it. We got a referendum on whether we should stay in 1975, but the leave campaign had no money, while the ‘stay in’ campaign received loads of cash from Brussels.

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Thomas Bootham
Thomas Bootham
1 day ago
Even Charles des Gaulle wanted the uk to stay out of it he said britains interests should stay with the commonwealth which would’ve been mutually beneficial for the both the uk and it’s allies

Mr Ror
1 day ago
Ok, so let me dispel the brexit myths. 1. The architects of brexit never wanted to curb immigration, they wanted to liberalise it. The little people fell for their plastic patriotism while Indians and Pakistanis voted brexit en masse knowing this would serve the interests of their communities. 2. The UK always had control of its borders as an EU member state but decided not to apply provisions to restrict immigration to workers from central and Eastern Europe. 1+2. Brexit means lose-lose for native Brits, not only the UK has now indiscriminately opened its borders to the whole wide world and native Brits have lost their freedom to move to other EU countries that value European civilisation and genuine patriotism. NOW stop thinking Brexit is a right-wing thing, it is not.
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Andy Hunter
Andy Hunter
2 hours ago
When talking of sustainability can we not also reflect on what is a realistically “sustainable population”

Sandie
1 day ago (edited)
Immigration is a good. Well educated or well motivated immigrants will make a nation. Immigrants don’t have to be white Anglo Saxon protestants to be considered worthy, despite what these two might think.
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Evola’s Sunglasses
1 day ago
Culture is downstream from ethnicity. Remember this when we become a minority.
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Stu McCabe
1 day ago
Certain immigrant populations are so well established as separate from the native population that they are never going to integrate. Their culture and beliefs are not compatible with ours, and as their population increases and ours decreases, we will see more and more conflicts break out. This will likely lead to violence on a significant scale. So no, the mass immigration we have is a terrible.
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C C
1 day ago
Immigration can be a social good, but not as it’s been mismanaged for decades. The problem with using the Brexit vote as an example of anti-immigration sentiment is that nobody knows why people voted Leave or Remain. That’s why the result was such a shock. Nobody bothered to ask what people were voting for, so why pretend to know, now? We live in Wales, where the majority voted Leave but still vote Labour. I think we have a clearer sense of our own National Identity that the main political parties are unwilling to talk about coherently, because patriotism is supposed to be a bad thing if you happen to be English. The point is that neither the Left or Right of politics is willing to have an honest conversation about the perfectly normal human feeling of community with people who share your culture, and “belonging” in your own country. That’s not the same as being “anti-everybody-else”, and the bulk of arguments that label people as racist are really only window dressing for the idea that white working class people don’t have culture and shouldn’t feel entitled to anything.
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thomas robert
1 day ago
support outside your tribe and your tribe will put you outside.
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Baron Ortega
1 day ago
I disagree.
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Grey Voice
1 day ago
Immigration has always been a huge problem. It drives low wages and infrastructure is not being put in place to accommodate immigration , let alone illegal immigration which should never have been allowed to exist in the first place… Everything seems to be about money and enabling certain people to make more money by ensuring minimal investment through low wage workers. In a modern Country you would expect to see more automation , especially in the farming sector negating the requirement for cheap labour which the MSM seems to find the farmer that wants these people as opposed to investing in machinery to harvest their crops… But the Government also seems hell bent on destroying or at the very least reducing National food production…
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Raymond Liderth
11 hours ago
Truss believes all that nonsense till a family of them moves in next door.
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John The Accountant
1 day ago
The younger generation might not accept that they will be poorer but they will be poorer in the west.

roger wood
6 hours ago
ps in leicester there are hardly any LOCAL people left

Rodney Cooper
1 day ago
Britain is now the daftest country in the world. Our politicians are encouraging immigrants who have never paid a cent into Britain and give them money, food and warm accommodation. People who were born here and are nationals who have contributed work and taxes all their lives either direct orVAT or fuel and will be going short of food this winter and most probably will be cold in their houses. The utter nonsense that they are required (for cheap labour) as we are short of labour is no answer. We have plenty of labour of our own but there are obstacles put in front of them such as poor transport or no child care.The politicians reasoning is wholly incorrect.
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imemine
1 day ago
.. and yet we keep voting them in

Profile Photography
1 day ago (edited)
it is not theoretically possible to have limitless economic growth on a finite planet

Mark Hutton
14 hours ago
Awake Not Woke

Hammersmith Bridge
1 day ago
Wish you would interevene – “Who told you the world was going to end? – Specifically who, give us a name or a book you red? – Why did you take that as gospel? Do you take everything everyone tells you as gospel and why this particuar prson?” – We need to know the source of the things these people come out with – I bet she will say “Cant remember it was just something I was hearing” – And this from someone who went o Cambrdge!! God Help us

croftyprojects
1 day ago
How tf do i meet girls like this
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Blue Sky
17 hours ago
“immigration done without public consent” NO it was and still ADAINST public consent.

Gary Marshall
1 day ago
Will you be able to speak with Suella, she is Genuine Conservative with our beliefs. She once said, only way is to exit ECHR, ,does she still believe this ? Is it true Liz wants higher low skilled immigration from India? How does she feel about this?

Nick
1 day ago
Hi
Question didn’t you ever think F you when they wanted you to pay your university fees. Sounds to me young people don’t need university anymore. It was proved during the lockdown when you had to do all your courses on line. To be honest I feel more sorry for the older people who only had a couple of years of reasonable health. Which was stolen by the lockdown’s. While the government were partying .
Cheers.
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thomas robert
1 day ago
the only thing british youth needs to learn is how to strip down and service a gun.
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Kevin Heath
1 day ago
Very difficult to halt immigration when indigenous population are not producing enough children to keep society going.

WarCommissar1
1 day ago
William Clousten isnt bad

Robert W
1 day ago
Basically we’re fucked.

Jackie Sargent
1 day ago
Liz truss beleive’s immigration is a social good when 70 percent of the population believes the opposite ,how is she good for the country and more to the point how can the government justify remaining in power .
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Gill PS
1 day ago (edited)
Poppy Coburn couldn’t be more correct on immigration. It is enraging beyond measure what has been taken away from our younger people and indeed from all of us, even the peace of mind that older people should be able to feel about the futures of their children and grandchildren in the country they have contributed to all their lives. The global picture can’t be ignored here though. The entire West is affected. Why is that? She mentions a ‘libertarian’ and ‘ideological’ agenda, for that is what is and it’s a global phenomenon. How do we counteract this ‘generosity on our dime?
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William Millard
1 day ago
…I mean…you know..

bendtrucker
1 day ago
The problem with the UK is the first past the post system, it is very different to Italy.

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Youtube Youtube
Youtube Youtube
1 day ago
Yes but not better

bendtrucker
1 day ago
@Youtube Youtube Yes, it is far harder for small parties to get started and build support in the UK.

Raymond Liderth
10 hours ago
I was with her all the way till she mentioned Corbyn.

이 이
1 day ago
Send them back
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Bingo Little
1 day ago
She hot and right wing great to see.
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Richard Hill
1 day ago
N̶o̶t̶ ̶R̶e̶p̶l̶a̶c̶e̶m̶e̶n̶t̶

Akhil rocks Rocks
1 day ago
UK had 300,000 immigration this year, most of this are from ethnic minority race,Government need to lower immigration.give residents/citizenship those who invest in the country.
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J Johanesson
1 day ago
I’ll write what many think bit dare not say, we didn’t vote Brexit to end white European immigration to be replaced by non-white increased immigration from Africa and the subcontinent.
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R B
1 day ago
No one to vote for just more WEF placemen.. doomed…
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David Martin
1 day ago
Green Capitalism is possible. People are flexible, can embrace new training and opportunities but I think the Net Zero rubbish should be consigned to the bin.

Leonard Gibney
1 day ago
Until LIBLABCON are no more there will be no solution.

Peter Atkinson
1 day ago
What does Labour offer?

glyn stratford
1 day ago
Liz Truss us our country’s downfall she needs to go

Jason Cornell
1 day ago
The green movement is a watermelon

Chatham Dogend
1 day ago
Mass uncontrolled immigration is the biggest issue facing this overcrowded country, period.
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Sten Peter William Karlsson
1 day ago
[ CULTURAL WHITE ERASURE – Prime Minister Liz Truss Believes Immigration is a Great Socioeconomic Good for Britain, Not the Big Problem ]
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Robert Allen
1 day ago
no imigration no growth no growth no debt repaymant, no debt repaynant bancruptcy no pensions that simple

Steven Hodgson
1 day ago
Hey, you’re lucky, parts of the north and midlands have been part of Islam since the 80’s.

Azyrexos
1 day ago
Coalsburn
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MuseTheReaper
MuseTheReaper
1 day ago
Huh?

DN Stone
19 hours ago
Immigration is good for conservative wealth hierarchy.

sadako24
22 hours ago
Scumbag youtube censors have deleted my comment

Ned Simlish
1 day ago
Immigration can be good. The UK would have no-one to work in Hotels and the Building Trade would grind to a halt without it. It is uncontrolled and illegal immigration that is not only a problem, but if allowed to continue at the same rate for another 10 years will end UK society as we know it. The demographics will be unrecognizable, the number of people not working will go through the roof, english will become a second language, and organised crime will govern ever town and city.
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Evola’s Sunglasses
1 day ago
Illegal migration is very small, in relation to legal immigration.
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Michael Seddon
1 day ago
Just don’t vote for lousy Labour if you want anything done to curb mass immigration.

Mark Hutton
14 hours ago
How to spread the misinformation.
Conservatives don’t want to stop ALL progress, just ensure change is necessary. Conservatism is a flywheel NOT a brake.
It is also worth pointing out that capitalists do not have a monopoly on greed. Greed is a function of humanity, not capitalism.
The most cut throat businessman I eve met called himself a Communist.
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D Bruce
1 day ago
How come you journos can’t tell us why they can’t/won’t reduce immigration?
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Mr Ror
1 day ago
Answer: UN human rights conventions.
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Evola’s Sunglasses
1 day ago
@Mr Ror that’s downstream from the intrests of International finance
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Heathcliff Flowen
1 day ago
Each economic migrant pays tens of thousands of pounds for visas to the government.

Legionsmiles
1 day ago
Get a bun in your oven
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Tom
1 day ago
Not sure why people are concerned about immigration. The Tories are already here. The damage they have done beggers description.
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burtlangoustine1
1 day ago
The Botox in the bottom lip tells me this: A wannabe future politician willing to live a lie to portray things as better than they really are?
Sorry, Britain needs genuine articles and LESS narcissism.
She has good passion and brilliant words. She might be good for British politics in 20-30 years, after she’s lived and experienced reality with any further competence.
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Ned Donkin
1 day ago
Talk more slowly, Poppy.
I lose some of what you are saying, because you seem to swallow your words.
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Timothy Martin
1 day ago
@ Ned Donkin
Ned if you go into the setting of the video ( : ) the 3 verticals dots in right corner ov the screen you can change the speed of the video playback.
PS I found Poppy very clear to understand.
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Didier Lemoine
1 day ago
How many british migrants since brexit ? like africans, british r migrants too

Didier Lemoine
1 day ago
she is too young, a country without immigration does not exist, British migrats a lot too

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jazztheglass
1 day ago
Japan accepted less than 80 refugees last year, nearly all were from China, a very similar culture. Japan is bigger than the uk. Like Singapore it places restrictions on permanent migrants. Japan and Singapore are 2 of the most successful, safest, and stable societies in the world
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Didier Lemoine
1 day ago
@jazztheglass 80 refugies declared u mean, most migrants r not declared in japan

jazztheglass
1 day ago (edited)
@Didier Lemoine they accepted less than 80. Other people are accepted as foreign workers or residents. They are not citizens, resident status can be withdrawn, frequently it is, depending on circumstances
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Baron Ortega
1 day ago
Nobody here is arguing for 0 immigration.

John Butcher
1 day ago
but i’m sure if they were white from united states you would be perfectly okay
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Stu McCabe
1 day ago
Yes, of course. People from the US have a similar values, culture, religion, beliefs – in short, they’re more compatible with us and more likely to integrate successfully. Many/most from places like Pakistan will never integrate.
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Vinn Paraffin
1 day ago
@Stu McCabe ……..as can be seen by the fracas in Leicester!
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Baron Ortega
1 day ago
I would sooner have people with have some cultural ties with than not.
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We couldn’t get there ourselves. But happily, we have Leila Mechoui there in Ottawa, in the snow, who is going to give us a bit of a tour and report on what she sees.

 

Hey, Leila, where are you exactly?

 

Leila Mechoui: So I’m standing in front of the Canadian Parliament. This is like the main gate, it’s covered with signs. So you can’t see the actual building. But I can scoot over, and here it is. That’s the Parliament. There are fewer protesters right there. They’re mostly gathered on the other side of the camera. Someone’s speaking on stage. But if you look backwards. Yeah, there we go.

 

Freddie Sayers: So what have you seen over the past week, or two? We’ve got reports of some negative, or angry behavior, or some people are saying it’s been like a big celebration – what’s been your experience of the atmosphere out there?

 

Leila Mechoui: Well, of course, everyone’s going to have a different experience. But I can say, I’ve spent many hours, at all times of the day at the protests – I’ve come at night, I’ve come in the morning, I’ve come in the afternoon – it’s always been nothing but a festive and friendly atmosphere. I have nothing but positive interactions.

 

The truckers, the protesters, are all very keen to speak to you, and talk to you about where they’re from and why they’re here, etc.

 

Freddie Sayers: What have been the key messages that you’ve heard talking to all of those truckers? What are the big ideas that they want to get across?

 

Leila Mechoui: I think the most unanimous message is that they want to see an end to the mandates. They think that they’re unfair. They think that they’re overbearing. Some of them have some mistrust with regard to the vaccines. Some of them feel like they’ve been maltreated by governments, whether at the Provincial level, or the Federal level.

 

But it is very much mostly about ending the restrictions.

 

Freddie Sayers: Would you say it’s an anti-vax protest? Are there vaccinated truckers attending, or is pretty much everyone not taking the vaccine?

 

Leila Mechoui: I would say, from my experience, many truckers are not vaccinated that are here. And so there’s a bit of a self selection in that. Those that were not vaccinated may have been forced to take a vacation, let’s say, and decided to come here during that time.

 

But there are many people that are vaccinated, especially amongst the protesters during the weekends. So when people are off work, they’ll come. And I’ll speak to people, the vast majority of whom are vaccinated, and they’re happy with the vaccine.

 

But they’re tired. And a lot of them took the vaccine, in fact, because they wanted to see an end to the restrictions.

 

Freddie Sayers: How do normal Ottowans react to this? Because I imagine it’s kind of an imposition for them in their city. Are they angry? Are they understanding? What’s been the reaction?

 

Leila Mechoui: Well, listen. Those who have been angry have been given a lot of space in the Canadian press. I live in Ottawa, I live four kilometres away from Parliament. Where I live, and I would say any neighborhood that’s outside of a three kilometre perimeter, you wouldn’t tell anything’s different! It’s quiet and normal as Ottawa is. It’s a very relatively small city. Nothing much goes on, especially not during the pandemic.

 

But yes. Those who are unhappy with the protesters for various reasons – the main grievance that they had against them was, of course, the honking – had made their voices heard. And the media has chosen to highlight these.

 

Freddie Sayers: Has the honking stopped?

 

Leila Mechoui: Yes, the honking has stopped. And in fact, the other day there was an 81 year old man who had worked for his whole life as a janitor. He was a grandfather of 11 children, just a citizen of Ottawa. He was just driving about and he honked his horn. He wasn’t a part of the protest, or the convoy. And he was arrested by the police, because he did that.

 

So the injunction against the honking is being enforced, and broadly respected.

 

Freddie Sayers: How cold is it, Leila?

 

Leila Mechoui: A lot warmer now than when the protest started. There was an extreme weather warning during the first few days of the protest, so during the weekend. Now today, it’s negative one. So it’s quite warm, actually, for a Canadian winter.

 

Freddie Sayers: How do they stay warm in their trucks?

 

Leila Mechoui: Well, they have to keep them running at all times. Yes, that’s right. They keep them stalling and that provides warmth.

 

Freddie Sayers: Shall we maybe stop and talk to some of these people?

 

Leila Mechoui: How about those people. Better rush over.

 

Hi! Can I talk to you? Ask you about your placard? What are you protesting?

 

[05:00]

 

Couple: The lack of debate. There’s no, … We’re fluent in French. Yeah we speak French. But we just want the possibility for people to be able to have a debate. We’re protesting the mandate and the vaccine mandate in particular.

 

Leila Mechoui: Did you initially support the truckers, or, … from the start?

 

Couple: [nodding] That’s great! All the way through.

 

We need to. There was no public debate. It’s crazy! It doesn’t make sense! The censorship.

 

Leila Mechoui: Yeah. Let me try to find someone else.

 

What are you precisely here to support? Like, what about the convoy, do you support?

 

Man: I think the overall message here is, no more mandates.

 

Leila Mechoui: No more mandates, yeah.

 

Man: I don’t care if someone’s vaccinated, go for it.

 

Leila Mechoui: Yeah.

 

Man: I think we have the freedom of thought in our country, freedom of choice, freedom of religion.

 

Leila Mechoui: Yeah.

 

Man: All those things.

 

Woman: They’ve all been taken away. And they need to be restored, because it’s not right to take people’s freedoms away.

 

Leila Mechoui: Yeah.

 

Woman: When people fought for them. People laid their lives down. So that we could have freedom, and you know, I find that people who seem to understand this. The most are the ones who come from a communist country years ago, with women that came with the Polish community who came with the truckers. And they said they left that to come here.

 

Leila Mechoui: Yeah.

 

Woman: And now it’s here.

 

Man: We know that we still live in a beautiful country, with the freedom to – I guess. The problem is that unless you’re vaccinated, the freedoms are being taken away! So, how far is that going to be taken? Maybe our leaders need to be a little bit more accountable to people that maybe they look at as lower on the totem pole.

 

Leila Mechoui: If there’s one thing about this protest, which I guess is a bit irregular, it’s that everyone here is, I would say, over 40, most people have children, many people have grandchildren. So you know, these people don’t really – they’re not here for fun.

 

Freddie Sayers: We would love to go and talk to one of the truckers. I think you’ve got someone there who we might be able to talk to – can we see his truck?

 

Leila Mechoui: So — here’s the truck!

 

Freddie Sayers: This is Tim’s truck, is it?

 

Leila Mechoui: Yes it is.

 

Freddie Sayers: Wonderful. And he’s in there, hopefully.

 

Leila Mechoui: He is.

 

Freddie Sayers: Let’s go and say:

 

“Hi!”

 

Leila Mechoui: Alright, let’s go.

 

Freddie Sayers: Hi, Tim.

 

Leila Mechoui: Hi, Tim! Yeah, you’re doing pretty good.

 

Freddie Sayers: Thanks, Leila. Let’s see if we can now set it up, so we can actually have a chat with Tim directly.

 

So Tim, tell us, are you stuck in your truck? What’s the situation? What are you doing there, and what can you see?

 

Tim: I can see everything, I’m not stuck in here. I go out and play street hockey, and I walk around and that’s, … I hang out in my truck lots, because there’s always lots of people and kids coming that want to visit. So I don’t want them to come into an empty truck. But it’s nice out now. I walk around and hang out. But I do stick kind of close to it.

 

Freddie Sayers: How long have you been there?

 

Tim: Saturday will be two weeks that I’ve been here.

 

Freddie Sayers: Where did you come from? And how long was that trip? And how long are you planning on staying?

 

Tim: Well, I came from Rosemary, Alberta. And that’s 3, 600 kilometres from here. And we left on Monday, and we arrived, basically in Ottawa, Friday night. But that’s normally – I haul cattle for a living – and that’s normally a 3 day drive cat the speed limit. But it was pretty slow going when there’s 40, or 50,000 trucks. So a lot of it was 70/80 kilometres an hour, all the way here.

 

Freddie Sayers: So what was it that made you want to join this protest? Tell us the story.

 

Tim: I was thinking about joining it, when they first started talking about it. And then I was sitting at home watching the news. And the Alberta Premier, and the Alberta Health Minister, looked us all in the face of Alberta, and admitted to us that they had fudged the numbers of over 60% of the positive COVID cases that were hospital cases. They said it was like:

 

“Well, Tim came in with a broken finger. And before we would fix his finger, we made him do a COVID test. And he miraculously turned out positive, even though we had no symptoms. And we wrote them down as a positive COVID hospital case! But it was like, there’s nothing to see here!”

 

And I looked at my wife and I said:

 

“Did they just say that, right? Did I just hear that?”

 

And she said:

 

“Yeah. They just admitted to lying about the numbers, of over 60%!”

 

[10:00]

 

Freddie Sayers: You’ve been they’re obviously throughout this pandemic. Were you sort of suspecting things from the beginning? Were you unhappy from the beginning? Or has this grown gradually – when did you start to feel like the response to the pandemic was not sitting right with you?

 

Tim: When I couldn’t go to support my grandkids’ hockey games. Some arenas at home aren’t too bad. Some of them you just can’t go! They won’t let you. You can’t go to restaurants anymore. If they’re being really hard about it. If you’re not vaxxed, you’re not going to Boston Pizza, or Montana’s, or, they won’t let you come in. And then say:

 

“Well, you know, that’s not right!”

 

And then there’s been some vaccine injuries and stuff that they’re not admitting to. And, we have – like a couple in my family – and it’s like:

 

“Oh, it’s from something else, you know. It’s not from that.”

 

And it’s like:

 

“Well, how do know that? When it hasn’t been tested and proven!”

 

Freddie Sayers: So you haven’t taken the vaccine yourself?

 

Tim: No, no, no! My wife was basically forced to take it so that she could go to the old folks home to deal with her mum, who’s 93. And if she wouldn’t have got it, they won’t let her in there! Well, her mum’s 93 years old, somebody needs to go in there and help her out sometimes, right?

 

Freddie Sayers: How much of it was about the vaccine for you, versus the general sense of overbearing restrictions?

 

Tim: Probably more so, overbearing restrictions. Because from the start, I said:

 

“I’m not taking it!”

 

I’m going to wait 5, 10 years to see what the effects are. And then I’ll take it, if it’s all good.”

 

But it was all the other government overreach. I’m sick of paying taxes, and I’m sick of paying for them guys to waste money! And when we’re going in debt.

 

Like, I remember when I was a little kid and the US was a trillion dollars in debt! And it was like, you couldn’t imagine that. And now, here we are, four years later. And we’re the guys that are, like, we’re over a trillion in debt now! And I mean, the US is what 20, 30 trillion in debt?

 

They just keep spending money and giving money away. And they give our news media here 600 million a year, to lie to us! They don’t show the news.

 

They go off on some side streets, and they show a couple of trucks and a couple hundred people. And that’s what they’re sending around Canada, as what’s going on here. And it’s not even close.

 

Freddie Sayers: Tell us what is actually going on then. What have you seen on the news? And what are you seeing in reality? And what’s the difference between them?

 

Tim: Well, I haven’t been watching the news, because, I just don’t anymore. But the people at home are telling me:

 

“Well they’re saying there’s 200 trucks, and 18,000 people, and they’re robbing the food bank, and they’re doing all this! And the place is a mess!”

 

And it’s like, that’s not the case. Where I’m sitting on Wellington Street, I think there’s 350 trucks. And last weekend, or the weekend we got here, the RCMP flew over and took a picture, and they estimated there’s 2.4 million people. And I was up there. And it was shoulder to shoulder like you couldn’t move! And it was pleasant.

 

People were singing ‘Oh, Canada’, and there’s kids, and families! But if you watch it on the mainstream media, it’s like we’re burning the place down, or we’re robbing the homeless! And it’s so far from the truth, it’s not even close.

 

Freddie Sayers: So what is everyone doing there? Describe the scene. So everyone’s in their truck, your stationary, you’ve parked up, you’re not moving around.

 

Tim: No, we’re parked.

 

Freddie Sayers: And is everyone getting together and protesting?

 

Tim: Oh yeah!

 

Freddie Sayers: Or is everyone just sitting in their trucks? What’s the atmosphere?

 

Tim: No, no! I mean, you can’t even call it a protest. It’s more like a Canada, Day celebration. There’s no chants, … I mean, there’s chants, like yeah:

 

“We believe that we will win.”

 

And people singing “Oh, Canada”..

 

But it doesn’t look like a protest. No one’s wrecking anything. People are out visiting. People stop by all the time. It’s kind of like a big party. But it’s not, you know what I mean?

 

Freddie Sayers: So has the city ground to a halt, then? Is any normal business taking place? Or is the city been pretty much shut down?

 

Tim: I couldn’t answer that. Because I don’t really know. I know, like Wellington Street here. There’s nobody driving down it. Like it’s blocked off. There’s an emergency lane for people to get by.

 

But there’s no rural traffic going by. Like one bank shut down here last week, because it was just too noisy. They were honking horns and stuff like that, during the day.

 

Now they put an injunction on us and we can’t honk our horns for 10 days. Well, as soon as they did that, then the horns honked for about an hour straight. The Mayor and the Chief of Police, every time they try to do something, it kind of backfires on them.

 

But there’s been no violence at all, like none.

 

[15:23]

 

Freddie Sayers: So, how long would you be prepared to stay there for?

 

Tim: I was prepared to stay here until all the mandates across Canada were lifted, like all of them. But now, if they actually bring in the riot police, tomorrow, or Friday. And they’re going to arrest us and seize our trucks, I can’t afford to lose my truck! It’s how I make my living.

 

Freddie Sayers: Why do you think it’s the truckers that are objecting to it? What is it about that group that has made them lead this protest?

 

Tim: I think what got them started was – I mean, I don’t run to the States anymore, I pretty much local Alberta – but the guys that do go to the States, when it’s got rolling, if they’re not vaxxed, when they come back from California, bringing a load of produce, they have to quarantine for 14 days when they get home.

 

Well, who can do on one load? So you’re going to get two loads a month! Like? You’re not going to make it. And we’re basically quarantined in our trucks anyway.

 

Freddie Sayers: So, how much of the blame do you lay at Justin Trudeau’s door? Is it his fault, do you think? Or is this a wider problem?

 

Tim: It’s not all his fault. I blame it on all the parties. Because I don’t believe that, … They’re all crooked! Like Conservative, Liberal Bloc, NDP. They’re all in it for a paycheck! That’s what I think. And they think that we work for them. It’s like, no, no! You guys work for us! Don’t forget that!

 

But they get the big high price paycheck every year. And they’ll say whatever they can to keep that paycheck. And as soon as the elections are done, then it’s like:

 

“Maybe I didn’t mean that. But thanks for voting for me anyway.”

 

And that’s across all of the parties! It’s not just Liberal.

 

Freddie Sayers: I just heard that Alberta has lifted the vaccine passports. Is that something we should be celebrating?

 

Tim: That happened yesterday. They lifted the vaccine passport. It’s a good start.

 

Freddie Sayers: Do you think that’s because of your efforts?

 

Tim: Ah, maybe, some? They’re making it out to be like it’s not. It’s like, well, they’re saying:

 

“Well, the Omicron thing is now so mild, that we’re going to start lifting them.”

 

But I think if these guys hadn’t had started this convoy, they wouldn’t have done it! Because it’s basically shut the country down. There’s 150,000 trucks in the Ottawa area, that aren’t working every day. And that’s a big effect on the economy.

 

And the thing I heard here now is that if they actually chase us out of here, we’re going to go home and park our trucks! Like they can get us out of here. But they can’t make me go to work.

 

And if they got 300,000 trucks in Canada, that are parked in their driveway that will not go to work, it’s going to cause a lot of trouble.

 

Freddie Sayers: What will make this end for you? That’s the question, I think. Let’s just say that the COVID thing does gradually fade away and the mandates are lifted, will that be over for you? Do you feel like you will be back to normal? Or do you feel this has started a new movement that is going to carry on?

 

Tim: No, I think that if the mandates are all lifted. I think that’s pretty much what everybody’s looking for. But we do have to get some people in government that are telling the truth about everything. Because as far as I can see, they spew a lot of non-truths on about what’s going on. And they got to get that handled.

 

The biggest thing for me is the mandates and, the vaccine. Like I’ll never take the vaccine now, because of all the, … [reponding to someone outside the truck] Thank you very much!

 

Sure, people come steady with Tim Hortons cards and, stickers, and kids come with Ziploc bags with little notes rolled in them, and cookies, and people bring sandwiches. And it’s pretty steady. When it’s busy on the weekends, I might as well not even close the door in my truck, because they come steady all the time.

 

And I’ve probably got 200 notes from kids that they’ve colored pictures of trucks. And it’s like:

 

“Thanks for coming! We can’t go to birthday parties, and we can’t go play hockey. And, my mom is depressed, because she had to quit her job. Because the daycares are closed!”

 

[20:07]

 

It’s the whole thing – it’s not right. And these little kids, and my grandkids, they’re missing, so far, two years of a normal life. But you have a kid that’s in kindergarten, grade one, grade two, they’ve been sticking a mask on their face for two years! They think that’s normal! Well that isn’t normal! Not in Canada, it ain’t normal.

 

When Pfizer tells us that they don’t want to tell us what’s in the vaccine for like 55 years. It’s like:

 

“Well, then maybe I’ll take it in 55 years, how about that! Like when you tell me what’s in it, I’ll take it. Until then you’re not sticking it in my arm. Period! I don’t care!”

 

That should be my choice. That shouldn’t be the government telling me I have to do it, or I can’t go get on a plane and go to Mexico, or Australia, for a holiday.

 

You know, I worked my whole life and it’s only been the last five years that I’m far enough ahead that I can take two weeks off in the winter, and go and lay on the beach in Cabo, Mexico. I should be there right now! Like right now, I should be in Cabo laying on the beach, because we always go in the first two weeks of February.

 

Instead, I’m going to go lay in the snow over here one of these days and send a picture home to my wife, and say:

 

“Well, it’s not quite Cabo, but, at least I’m on some kind of a holiday!”

 

Freddie Sayers: We were happy that you took the time to talk to us anyway? I’m sorry it wasn’t on a beach. But hopefully you’ll get there sometime soon.

 

Tim: Yeah! I’m really hoping I get there, next year maybe.

 

Freddie Sayers: Okay. Thank you so much, Tim.

 

Tim: Yeah, you bet. Thanks a lot. Have a good day.

 

Freddie Sayers: Well, after sitting for two weeks in that truck, I think Tim deserves a holiday. So let’s hope he gets one.

 

Thank you to him for sharing his views, and thanks to Leila Mechoui for giving us a bit of a tour, and showing us what’s actually happening on the ground in Ottawa right now.

 

Thanks for tuning in. This was Unherd.

 

[22:00]

 

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827 Comments

 

Patrick
2 days ago
“What are you protesting?”
“The lack of debate”.
Perfect answer. The force-feeding of these mandates without discussion.
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Meg O’Fiachra
2 days ago
Exactly why we canceled our newspaper subscription summer of 2020. They only ever ran one side of the story. They never once even mentioned scientists, etc, who were questioning lockdowns and alternative treatments. We refuse to PAY for propaganda.
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Dave
2 days ago
Exactly what I’ve been saying from the start of this situation. No debate just demonising, censorship and diktat.
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Maraton Legendele Nemirei
1 day ago
Who is delivering the food to the supermarkets now?
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Anti Hypocrisy
1 day ago
You must be strong if forced to do something wrong. This is a beautiful sight to behold.
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mrpipps90
1 day ago
@Maraton Legendele Nemirei no one. Let em get hungry and maybe they will grow a pair.

Marilyn Mantis
1 day ago
@Maraton Legendele Nemirei I would imagine that there is less food being delivered no doubt. Of course the truckers will be blamed for the destruction of the economy and starving people. Big Guv and Klaus Schwab and Co. have nothing to do with this though, right?

Tree Frog
1 day ago
@Anti Hypocrisy Only until you don’t have what you need or want

Tree Frog
23 hours ago
@Marilyn Mantis Yes, exactly which only actually hurts their cause, not help it, & can provoke even worse Totalitarian crackdowns nobody wants

Marilyn Mantis
15 hours ago (edited)
@Tree Frog So what is your solution? I think the message that the truckers are sending to the pieces of sh*t that control of this world is that there are more of us than them. Them is never going to stop, ever, and I think the actions of the truckers could very well inspire the rest of us out here to get creative and come up with more ideas on how to protest against these filthy slimeballs. I had my own personal victory this past week regarding mask requirements because I stood up to a Libtard tyrant and hurt her where it really counts, in the pocket book. It’s a rare case, but we ALL NEED TO PRACTICE NONCOMPLIANCE TO THESE TYRANTS as much as possible. We are not dealing with decent people in this situation. I don’t even like to use the word people when referring to these things. No, I’m going entering into reptilian land. What do you suggest we do? I think we the people need to target all of our local fakestream media outlets. I boycotted them years ago, and of course, they’ve taken over and now dominate Youtube.
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Topaz
2 days ago
Excellent interview. My respect for the well-spoken trucker who summarrized the issues in it’s entirety!!
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Badabing
2 days ago
All the snobbish, arrogant, selfrighteous people (like most of the government apparatus, legacy media and many intellectuals) who look down on “simple” working folk like truckers should be forced to watch interviews like these. You pretty quickly see how many smart and articulate “working people” there are.
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Simone Tetz
2 days ago
@Badabing amen!
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GGTutor1
2 days ago
@Badabing I have missed their voice in the media for so long, it feels like decades since they have had any voice. Legacy media and even social media gives us such a distorted view of who is out there.
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FREE ASSANGE Pardon SNOWDEN
2 days ago
Lol an hour straight. God bless CANADIAN truckers, brave brave souls.
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Ms Bramble
1 day ago
Yes Free Assange
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PengWin76
2 days ago
Massive respect to the Canadian Truckers and the freedom convoy. Power to the People.
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Maraton Legendele Nemirei
1 day ago
Who is delivering the food to the supermarkets now?
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Rene
1 day ago
@Maraton Legendele Nemirei Justin trudeau
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Jason Dashney
1 day ago
I live in Vancouver and every Saturday there’s a protest downtown and it’s almost like a party. Everyone is upbeat and happy and the cops are relaxed and chill. It’s a very positive atmosphere. The counter protesters are outnumbered about 100-1 and those people are treated with respect as well. Zero fights, zero incidents. For the numbers of people involved, it’s been amazingly calm and peaceful. If there were incidents, for DAMN sure the media would’ve been all over them……unless it’s ANTIFA. In Winnipeg and ANTIFA member ran down 4 protesters and the media has basically ignored it. The media coverage here is literally beyond belief. I ask all my friends to not take my word for it, but come down to an event and see for themselves.
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Jay B
2 days ago
The trucker was spot on man. I can’t go visit my family right now because on these unconstitutional mandates. It’s sickening.
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Richard MOORER
2 days ago
Thing is mandates are not law.. they are coersive suggestions as t best..
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Samantha O
2 days ago
Viva Frei was there live-streaming today and interviewed the one counterprotester who was there telling the truckers to go home… and it turned out even he agreed with every point the truckers are making
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Kasandra H
2 days ago
Same in Singapore. No dining out n firing of people. Divisions n surveillance by govt. But we will prevail! ~ X
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Gretchen K.
2 days ago
It’s to: Isolate, medicate, liquidate.

Leighton Cooke
2 days ago
What a guy. That trucker was articulate, down to earth and genuine. Hope he makes it to the beach in Mexico one day.
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The Generalist
2 days ago (edited)
I bet he was the first trucker they talked to, chosen at random. He is a totally average Canadian, just like me. Didn’t you notice he could rattle off all the debt numbers, was up to date with all the facts. We are patient, we are trusting, but we will not tolerate being lied to. Actions speak much louder than words. The time for words is over, the time for action is now.
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M B
2 days ago
Thank you for covering this. As a Canadian it has been embarrassing to be a citizen with this level of authoritarianism. But it may all have driven this, which hopefully will turn the world around. It is the working class vs. the elite, and IF there is a sinister group watching, they are watching with close eyes. Resistance from the “friendliest” citizens in the world, who aren’t armed, should show those that the numbers are in our favour, and you can’t control us. Starting to be a proud Canadian, again.
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Dee Timberwolf
2 days ago
Yeah, watching the parliamentary debates is like watching a bunch daycare babies. Goes nowhere.. “Mr. Speaker, it’s HIS FAULT.” “NO IT”S NOT!!!”
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The Generalist
2 days ago
The sinister group is the one that released the virus from the Wuhan lab. They enslaved the people of Hong Kong by releasing the virus. Now they are hosting the Olympics. Lol!
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Sylvie Guénette
2 days ago
From another Canuck, hang in there my friend; we’re sticking a dent in their agenda.
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Zuma Maya
2 days ago
Totally agree with your comment. I’m watching from New Zealand. Unfortunately the majority are still compliant… but very angry.
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Charles Vincett
2 days ago
I am Canadain and I approve this message.
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MyThoughts
2 days ago
@Zuma Maya the inly aggressive people in New Zealand are your rugby players. The rest are wimps!

M B
2 days ago
@The Generalist Right, and don’t forget about Fauci, providing funding and then running the show in the US.
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The Generalist
2 days ago
@M B Communism made possible by useful idiots.
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The Generalist
2 days ago
@MyThoughts I think there are many Germans, Italians and Japanese who would disagree.

Maraton Legendele Nemirei
1 day ago
Who is delivering the food to the supermarkets now?

Anti Hypocrisy
1 day ago
You must be strong if forced to do something wrong. This is a beautiful sight to behold.
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raspberry treacle
1 day ago
@Zuma Maya best of wishes from the UK. These world economic forum trained world leaders are doing the most damage to freedom. Be strong I hope it all collapses like a pack of cards
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raspberry treacle
1 day ago
@The Generalist these useful idiots are all former WEF trained world leaders. I’d say it’s alarming how they put there agenda before the freedom of their own people
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The Generalist
1 day ago
@raspberry treacle Our freedom has been declining for some time. The frog has just decided to jump out of the pot.
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M B
1 day ago
@Maraton Legendele Nemirei there are only a few hundred trucks parked on the Capital. Grocery stores are fine. Canada has more resources to provide it’s own citizens food and goods for centuries, perhaps this will strengthen our resolve to stop importing so many things and waste fossil fuel.
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Olivia
1 day ago
It’s a global problem. The politicos of the world no longer truly represent the people who put them there and they assume supreme power over us. Unfortunately the police are being used simply to hold those in power in situ. We must assert our civil rights and not allow this authoritarianism to destroy our freedom. The Canadian truckers are a shining light to us all.
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Marilyn Mantis
1 day ago
I’m just hoping that the sleeping Americans who are armed will get their act together. So many have turned into spineless soy boys though. I’m sure the “elite” scum are watching all of this. Their fakestream media coverage is comical. “Q-Anons, conspiracy theorists, far right wing, anti-vaxxers.” They can’t debate intelligently because they can’t win a debate.
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Jenni Slaven
2 days ago
Tim was so well-spoken, could not agree more with all his points. Go truckers!!!!! Tim and all the truckers, you are heroes!!!!!
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Irene
2 days ago
Tim absolutely nails it. Politicians use politics as a career move into the corporate world. They are so removed from public opinion it’s jaw-dropping. This is people power in action good for them.
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Maraton Legendele Nemirei
1 day ago
Who is delivering the food to the supermarkets now?

Susan Hopkinson
1 day ago
@Maraton Legendele Nemirei there are major supply chain disruptions now
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Maraton Legendele Nemirei
1 day ago
@Susan Hopkinson So that’s how they intend to kill off parts of the population by starving them or have them killing each other over the last tin of beans?
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Angelo Zachos
1 day ago (edited)
@Maraton Legendele Nemirei
They FORCE these jabs on everyone …
But these jabs don’t stop infection or spread …
Do you think there might be alternative reasons for why our authorities have planned to jab EVERY MAN , WOMAN , CHILD and , eventually, EVERY BABY ?

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Cynthia Johnson
2 days ago (edited)
I hope the truckers know that people are gotta remember what they have done for their country and I hope none of these courageous guys ever has to buy his own meal at a truck stop again.
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Serena Pimentel
2 days ago
We need to build a trucker statue on Parliament!
To always watch over our rights.
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Dave’s Hong Kong & China Channel
1 day ago
Great sentiment – these guys should be remembered for generations to come in the same way war veterans are treated.
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Tommy Steward
2 days ago
Heroes. I honestly thought Canada (as well as the USA eventually) was a lost cause. This has proven me wrong. You all are showing us how it’s done. Thank you!!!
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The Generalist
2 days ago
As they say in hockey, it ain’t over until the fat lady sings.
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Jason Dashney
1 day ago
I thought I had lost all of my Canadian pride over the last few years, but since this protest started I realized I still have a thread left. I’m going back downtown Vancouver tomorrow because every Saturday there’s been a protest and it’s joyous and peaceful and friendly and I hope we keep going every week.
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raspberry treacle
2 days ago
Great people. Great story. Good to see these truckers standing up against this tyranny
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FRANK FRANKLIN
2 days ago
This may very well become the “Historic national moment” that Canada has been lacking.
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D Normore
2 days ago
This is ANOTHER national moment… we have had many in our history but now the world knows because of social media.
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mushy
2 days ago
@D Normore what national moments in the past? Asking out of curiosity, and never hearing of any
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The Generalist
2 days ago
Our defining national moment was the victory at Vimy Ridge. This shall be the historic national moment that Canada is reborn. Perhaps we should be thanking Justin for reminding Canadians just what Canada is all about.

shirley just
2 days ago
This is a historic moment for the free world, you can’t be free if you have no choice
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Ea’s Fish Camp
2 days ago
So cool you are covering this, Freddie!
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gamegenie11
2 days ago
Great job Mr.Trucker! We salute you!
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KT
2 days ago
Thanks for bringing this, Freddie. It’s like Jordan Peterson said “People just wanna be left alone. Leave me alone!” We all pay our taxes and this is the state of things? Everyone everywhere standing for freedom, peacefully doing so, has my never ending support. I pray they hold the line and the resources to allow them to do so are in abundance. Love from Texas
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CleanPowerAuto
2 days ago
It’s not enough to pay taxes and being left alone. We have to hold these crooks accountable for their actions and how they spend our taxes. Otherwise it’s just legalized racket.
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The Generalist
2 days ago
Your money isn’t enough, the devil wants your soul too! Lol!
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lee cee
2 days ago
“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
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KT
2 days ago
I’ve been a fan of Rush for 40 years. I can’t help but think of Closer to the Heart from A Farewell to Kings. “And the men who hold high places must be the ones who start, to mold a new reality…” It feels to me we are long past due for some new rules as a society. History doesn’t have to repeat. We can write it differently. You are the men who hold these high places. The hierarchy is an illusion. I’m right there with you.
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Maraton Legendele Nemirei
1 day ago
Who is delivering the food to the supermarkets now?
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Sayed Hamra
1 day ago
It’s because we pay taxation we have this situation. Taxation is the the expropriation of money under threat of penalty.
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pulltheotherone
1 day ago
@CleanPowerAuto oh yes racketeering is rampant in all governments these days.

Olga Hurley
9 hours ago
The truckers – especially if the government lift the mandates – every person has an influence let your politicians know

jerseygrl5
2 days ago
Excellent interview with the trucker Tim! Tim is rational, informed and explained his beliefs very well! I am not a trucker, retired and live in the US and feel the exact same way! Something rotten going on in both the US and Canadian governments. I am 70, with no comorbities, eat well, exercise and I refuse to take the jab. The more they push, the deeper my conviction against it.
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Gsecret Ssecret
2 days ago
“The more they push, the deeper my conviction against it.”
– Exactly!
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J P
2 days ago
Well said. 100% agreed
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Tania Yager
2 days ago
It’s all been a scam from day 1. Everyone should read RFKennedy’s book ‘The Real Anthony Fauci’ it reads like a horror story. The man who dictates worldwided on lethal vaxxes and is a crook. He’s been at it for almost 50 years. All about profit for Pharma, him and Gates!
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Bob Adkins
2 days ago
@Tania Yager If the FBI was clean, they would find out how rich Fauci is. If it’s out of line with his salary, they should find out how he launders his money. I won’t hold my breath waiting.
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fireflyrobert
2 days ago
@Gsecret Ssecret me too
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Ramses Beaulieu
2 days ago
I hail from Canada and send love and peace to you American brothers of mine. We do not bow or bend to tyranny! Cheers!
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Nancy Patancy
2 days ago
Yes, I’m 64, retired and currently living in Mexico. I’ve also been saying that something smells rotten.
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jerseygrl5
1 day ago
@Nancy Patancy I have considered fleeing the US too. Stay safe in Mexico, things are getting wacky here.
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jerseygrl5
1 day ago
I’ve been on to Fauci for years, my younger brother had AIDS and was killed by Fauci’s AZT in ’91. My bro was only 35, handsome and charming. The AZT gave him an UGLY and painful death. His other gay friends who didn’t take the AZT are still living. The murderer Anthony Fauci is public enemy Number One in my book.
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jerseygrl5
1 day ago
@Ramses Beaulieu The people united cannot be defeated. WE are the many, they are the few.
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Life By Design One Day At A Time
1 day ago
Exactly! Why make people take the jab? They (big pharma and government) have used our tax dollars to study how to manipulate the masses – fear! You can get anything by, for a while, by using fear! MSM has lost me as a viewer. They have been the heavy lifter for this fear propaganda . Follow the money trail that’s all one needs to do to discover the truth!
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Ramses Beaulieu
1 day ago
@jerseygrl5 that’s right girl! Lets tell ’em! Power to the people! It’s time for these crooks to realize we’re the ones in charge!
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jerseygrl5
1 day ago
@Life By Design One Day At A Time you are absolutely correct about the MSM, when Covid first appeared I was still watching the MSM but realized it was just FEAR PORN and turned it off permanently. BTW follow the money is my mantra, it exposes the truth.
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Richard Watson
13 hours ago
Good on you jerseygrl5, I’m the same also
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very grateful
2 days ago
Finally, just what we needed! True courage. We have to
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DCRivs
2 days ago
Thank you Freddie for covering our struggle.
Love from Canada
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Ano Nony
2 days ago (edited)
Thank you for what you’re doing! The only hope I’ve had up here in Canada in two years.
It’s maddening that we’re two years into this and none of this has gone through courts. The reason these are mandates and not laws is because they know it wouldn’t hold up in court where an actual debate and alternative opinions can be heard
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The Generalist
2 days ago
Unfortunately that is not 100% true. The lawyers and judges support this initiative as well. All Canadian federal government employees must get the vaccine by law. This law was allowed to pass into the Canadian labor code in December 2021. I don’t think this has been challenged in court yet. My suspicion is most judges would throw it out.
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Ano Nony
2 days ago
@The Generalist I’ve seen a lot of tickets dropped the day before they go to court which gives me some hope, but you’re right the courts would likely just push it through. At least it would give a chance for people to get their objections on the record though

The Generalist
2 days ago
@Ano Nony It also costs the lunatics time and money. Judges and prosecutors aren’t cheap, and neither is jail time. You can defend yourself and mock the system at the same time. If they want to make stupid policies then they can deal with stupid people who break the stupid laws, The Soviets could only send people to the gulag, and the communist Chinese could only send them to re-education camps.
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OneLine
1 day ago
There were plenty of challenges, they simply lost. Judges side with the government as being the experts, so they can lie all they want, and courts will accept those lies.

The Male Jodie Taylor
2 days ago
Well done Freddie for covering this.
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A
2 days ago
I’m so proud of you trucker!!You are a wholehearted soul and you are changing the world!!!. There are so many children affected by covid mandates and Ontario is now handing out more tests in hope to find more ‘infected’. They seem to want this crisis to continue.God bless you!
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Claudia Hidden Galicia
2 days ago
Thank-you for covering this honestly!!! Power to the truckers!!!
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Tiffany Gaydos
2 days ago
This was a very good in-depth interview. Thank you to you UnHerd for getting the message out there and thank you to Tim for doing a great job in telling it like it is. God bless the truth tellers!!
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Stella
2 days ago
From Italy we appreciate what you are doing to reclaim our free choice. Thank you.
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Frannie Thorburn-Polo
2 days ago
Go truckers, go. So proud of you all. You are our heroes. Stay strong, stay safe and stay in peace.
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derosa1989
2 days ago
The mainstream Canadian media coverage of the event is the real story here. As a Canadian, I don’t feel well informed by the reporting from major outlets, they have done a terrible job showing us what is actually happening, without the editorializing and judgement of the motives of the protesters.
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Jassey Jefferr
2 days ago
Amen! Watch the live streams! This is a peaceful protest, very Canadian!
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Jane Channing
2 days ago
I haven’t watched tv in years. It is a blessing. Sadly the mass psychosis would be bettered termed as tv brains. And newspapers, tho some truth trickles thru once in a while and my worst was Facebook. The absolute hysteria whipped up via the anti trump feeds has now been shown glaringly as lies and manipulation. I was anti trump because of it. Biden, Trudeau etc. Worldwide these people have one by one become totalitarian. And seem to be possessed as if by some sort of demon with wild strained eyes and hypocritical rhetoric spouting from their mouths. Journalists cannot be trusted. You can tell the bad ones, they do not do live or even investigated news, usually sitting and zooming. Yes, I was fooled and now I am not. Let’s hope the truckrs stay safe and they achieve their goals.
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The Generalist
2 days ago
That is because they are all feeding at the government trough and would die if their food was cut off. They have to spout whatever the government tells them to say or the government makes life ‘difficult’ for them, Lol! I know. Corruption has creeped into the Liberal party once again, like it always eventually does. Power goes to their heads and they think they can do know wrong. They start believing their own propaganda. Fortunately we are a democracy. The truckers along with more and more Canadians are loosing patience. If Trudeau is so confident he is right then he should hold another election. Lol! Trust me, he just held one and lost his majority. If he holds another tomorrow he will loose.
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The Generalist
2 days ago (edited)
@Jane Channing Glad to hear you are thinking for yourself now, I am the same. I’m for good governance, and I’ll only vote if you can prove to me you can provide good governance and then continue to deliver good governance. Lying politicians are a dime a dozen, and should be treated as such unless they can prove otherwise. Trudeau is breaking the trust of the Canadian people, and this can only end one way. It is just a matter of time now.
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KLRJUNE
2 days ago
Those truckers are absolute heroes in Texas. God bless them all.
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M Harper
2 days ago
Thank you, Alberta Trucker!! And of course DEEPEST THANKS TO ALL THE TRUCKERS!
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Ruth Longridge
2 days ago
One day, Freddie, you will be given an award for your delicate incisiveness.Well done, and thanks and love, from South Africa
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Lori Gustin
2 days ago
Please hold the line. You are inspiring the world!!!! They can’t arrest us all.
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D Normore
2 days ago
I went to Ottawa last weekend… drove 6 hours and it was minus 25C. It was fantastic and much larger than I thought. There were so many Canadian flags it reminded me of Canada day. The city itself is open and functioning pretty well normally. Only street completely shut down is Wellington st in front of parliament. It was festive, street parties at night replete with fires and bouncey castles for the kids. If you can, drive up and have a look for yourself and support these people. BTW… anyone that does a protest when it’s around Minus 25 isnt going to be afraid of anything. Trudeau must step down… he has lost the confidence of those he supposedly governs.
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The Generalist
2 days ago
Bravo and thank-you! I stand with anyone who will defends freedom to choose. Trudeau is human, he has made an error and now he refuses to correct it. He will rapidly loose the trust of the Canadian people and the Liberal party. His options are remove the mandates, step down from office, or be removed by the Liberal party as leader. He has freedom to choose his destiny, unlike his fellow Canadians, at the moment.
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Suzie Brouillet
2 days ago
Yep agree going this weekend
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DayDreamer
2 days ago
Thank you for covering this beautiful freedom demonstration !!
Much RESPECT!!
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Alison Appleton
2 days ago
It took the gentle, mild mannered Canadians to show the world how to stand for the dignity of the human spirit.
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Dex Gattaca
2 days ago
So sad that not a single Canadian legacy news outlet has done a report like this.
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refreshingtwist
1 day ago
But not at all surprising.
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Jason Dashney
1 day ago
It’s not that they haven’t done something like this, it’s that they are straight up parroting Justin Trudeau is lines about everyone being violent racist and stuff. It’s the strangest thing because anybody can go and see for themselves that is complete nonsense. I’ve never seen such a straight up denial of objective reality.
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Brad Sayers
2 days ago
way to go Freddie, great interview!
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Angel Rojo
2 days ago
Thank you Freddie, thank you Leila. THANK YOU TIM. Bless your heart my friend. This is real news coverage!
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SkaraBraeRanch
2 days ago (edited)
As an Albertans and a Canadian, I can say that the gentleman interviewed typifies the perspective in rural Alberta. Yes, not particularly sophisticated … but honest, hard-working, family-oriented, and very proud to be a Canadian. Yet these are precisely the people that Justin Trudeau (Canada’s Zoolander of ‘inclusiveness’ and every imaginable woke cause) has demonized as racists, as misogynists, as Nazi’s … and Canada’s left-leaning (and directly federal-gov’t subsidized) media parrots the same skewed message. I’d add that Canada is an intensely parochial country where regional division is par-for-the-course. But this protest is different … it is unique … a first as it spans every region & province in Canada. History will not be kind to Justin Trudeau.
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The Generalist
2 days ago
I loved when the trucker started rattling off the debt stats for Canada and the US, and all the current events. He is probably 10 times smarter than Justin. He lives in the real world, not an ivory tower.
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shirley just
2 days ago
I don’t think history will be kind to Biden either
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Bob Adkins
2 days ago
You guys should do away with that poisonous, unholy, even Fascist marriage between press and State. We have the same problem here in the US and we’re sick of it.
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Ms Bramble
1 day ago
@The Generalist You know the whole debt thing is an illusion right? The spending was not an issue, that is just energy transfer, it is how it was spent, where the energy went and how it predominantly went to big tech and big business universally. It propped up the stock market while black rock and other investors swooped in and took away ordinary peoples dreams of owning their own home away from them. Some could talk about the left and communists but that is not what is occurring here. It is plain old fascism, where the government and corporations collude against the people. BTW Cuba has its own effective and durable non mRNA vaccine which is not for profit and not mandated in Cuba. Cuban people voluntarily took the vaccine at the same rate as forced Canadians did.
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Ms Bramble
1 day ago
@Bob Adkins When the government is owned (lobbied) by corporations and trans national elites then what is the difference between corporate media and state medi? In Australia our state funded ABC used to be the best but the Howard government changed the laws so the Murdoch press could own almost all the printing press and more. This “conservative” government continued to strangle the ABC of funding and right to autonomy while the Murdoch press set the tone and parameters of public debate with its print media monopoly. So now we don’t have any main steam press in the public interest but we do have some good small independent media. The New Matilda is probably some of the best. John Pilger is always spot too.
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The Generalist
1 day ago (edited)
@Ms Bramble What is the difference between fascism and communism? Nothing. Price is supply and demand. Houses were cheap in the past because there was a lot more land, fewer people, and more resources. People were also satisfied with less, smaller houses and fewer processions. Now people want it all immediately without having to work for it. This is why they say you will own nothing and be happy. They have nothing to give you but want everything you own. Even what you think.
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Ms Bramble
1 day ago
@The Generalist Population has been gradual. Housing hikes sudden and pushed by developers. The Own nothing and be happy mob are not communists. They are oligarchs heralding the new techno feudal era.

Susan Hopkinson
1 day ago
@Bob Adkins there is only one tax-payer funded news channel – the CBC. The other large networks are private corporate media just like in the States.

Bob Adkins
1 day ago
@Susan Hopkinson Thanks Susan. Same as the US, all are like the propaganda arm of the government except a handful of cable channels. It’s a shame we have to get much of our news from Skynews AU.

Bob Adkins
1 day ago
@Ms Bramble I love Skynews AU!

Ms Bramble
1 day ago
@Bob Adkins Skynews only looks good from afar. They do not do good investigative journalism. They are part of the corporate Murdoch machine which gets people to look the other way while more significant public interest issues are ignored. They are just tabloid media.
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Bob Adkins
1 day ago
@Ms Bramble You would know better than me, so I’ll keep a sharp eye. Maybe they’e inhibited by the AU government. I know for sure they pull no punches in US stories. They expose lying and corruption by US politicians, and I love it.

johnbeeckler
1 day ago
Beautiful comment. Pure gold. “Canada’s zoolander of inclusiveness and woke”. Thank you sir. Thank you!

Joanne Taylor Ford
1 day ago
@The Generalist Totally. People who live and act in their bodies instead of in their screens. I’ts a huge wake up call to those who only know how to do things through an app.

Ms Bramble
23 hours ago
@Bob Adkins Yes it is often the case the overseas media gives a more accurate picture. I actually find RT often excellent and certainly better than Fox. Aljezeera is more mainstream but pretty good too.

The Generalist
18 hours ago (edited)
@Ms Bramble Lol! Do you live in the real world? Do you understand math? Population growth has been exponential, not ‘gradual’. Didn’t you hear the population explosion, or was it not loud enough for you?

The Generalist
17 hours ago
@Joanne Taylor Ford Probably no accident that truckers started this protest. They are one of the few occupations left with a measure of freedom and independence, and are not under constant control and surveillance through their work applications, cell phone and email. Probably why the people love them so much and the government – those in control – hate them so much. Trudeau basically said Canadian who desire freedom are criminals.
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Chrissie Dixon
2 days ago
Amazing interview. to every single trucker they are incredible
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johns0sk
2 days ago
Respect and support to the Canadian Truckers and the freedom convoy!!! Greatings from Slovakia!
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Individual Perspective
2 days ago
Great man doing great things. Never back down!
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Dominic D’Souza
2 days ago
Thanks for producing this update. I completely agree with the trucker interviewed and really thank him for doing what he and all the truckers have done. All the best to them!
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Barbara Lee
2 days ago
Awesome response. “They chase me out, we’ll just park our trucks!” Go truckers Go. Defend freedom
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Jimmy H
2 days ago
Great how Freddie asks all the sensible questions — and gets straight answers
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Toquer88
2 days ago
Go Truckers! Hold the line!
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Jeremy Jackson
2 days ago
Why is it that to get a fair story, we need an English, new-media platform? That should scare us all. Thank your Freddie, we love you here in Canada.
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Artur
2 days ago (edited)
Forcing people to take medicine or be excluded from society is unethical and there should be severe consequences for people who are pushing this abuse on others.
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K Ross
2 days ago
Good on you, Freddie. You couldn’t have found a more genuine example of a Canadian than Tim the trucker, from Rosemary, Alberta. The guy drove across Canada burning fuel at his expense and is parked in downtown Ottawa, not making a penny of income. All he wants is to have the mandates lifted and to allow people to have the choice of whether or not to be vaccinated. No ulterior motive, no Swastikas or Confederate flags; just a working guy with dirt under his nails. Meanwhile the politicians continue to feign concern for the “unwashed.” And the Laptop Class never misses a day’s pay. And I like his suggestion that if they’re going to bring the riot police to bust some heads and seize vehicles then the drivers will just park their rigs in their driveways. Imagine how inconvenient it will be if 200,000 truckers “catch” Covid. Afterall, they’ll just be taking a page out of Trudeau’s playbook. Bravo to these folks and all that are supporting them.
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A Kap
2 days ago
What an awesome man! So brilliant and so much more intelligent than any of the “educated” college professor types in my “sophisticated” social circle.
I have a PhD, speak five languages, and move in “high places”, but man, what would I give to have a friend like this amazing man. He sees through all the bullshit and has more moral fiber than most people I know.
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Brad Knuppel
2 days ago
Great job, Freddie!! I am grateful for people like you that try to provide unbiased views
into these significant events.
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sunshinelively
2 days ago
This was great – a window into what’s happening and the trucker was so straightforward and clear!
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Fady Barsoum
2 days ago
Yes Freddie, show the legacy media how to report a story. In the future, we may look back at this movement and realize it was not just about the mandates, but was the culmination of collective dishonesty in our political and societal discourses. May this be a landmark for a beginning of positive change:
1. We need freedom of debate under clear, balanced rules.
2. The media should somehow be held accountable for its conduct (extremely tricky, but at this point there seems to be a need?)
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Joshua
2 days ago
Yet another fabulous, informative Unherd program. Well done!
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Nancy Patancy
2 days ago
I’ve always been a proud Canadian until 2020 when slowly but surely the tone changed, repeatedly. Something is wrong when the Canadian Gov and the CBC start vilifying people who have a different opinion. Since when is a gov supposed to pit people against each other ? This trucker is spot on and very courageous. I wish him well.
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Alma Frith
2 days ago
Thanks for a brilliant and insightful interview with the trucker’s in Canada.
Many main media stations has lost the art of true and honest journalism.
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Daniel Warton
2 days ago
Keep going truckers. There’s lots of us who support you and won’t take the jab.
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1 day ago
I’ve taken the jab, but support the truckers 100 per cent. Nobody should be forced to take a medical procedure without their consent. And the threat of sacking people who refuse is appalling.
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Randy Gault
2 days ago
Canadian citizens making me proud.
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Baltazar Gąbka
2 days ago
“For the first time in history the ineffectiveness of a medicine is being blamed on those who refuse to take it.”
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Fred Scheissenberger
2 days ago
Until the trucker convoy started, I thought the spirit of liberty was stone dead in Canada.
This event gives me some hope.
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Michael Edelstone
2 days ago
Freedom for all or freedom for none. This American supports the truckers 100%.
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MyThoughts
2 days ago
Thank you Freddie, for bringing the facts out from those that are there. Have to admire these people who, in the freezing cold do this for freedom!! I salute them!!
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Yvonne Smith
2 days ago
As usual …. Freddy nails it. Keep on with Unherd. We need you.
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CleanPowerAuto
2 days ago
When a trucker has more IQ than average college professor
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Andrea Leclair
2 days ago
Thanks for hearing first hand from a trucker and covering the truth.
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aztlanplay
2 days ago
It really touched my Heart how the children, and others, are showing their sincere Love and Appreciation for these gentlemen. Nobody deserves this dark life that has been imposed on us, but more so the children.
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Sylvie Guénette
2 days ago
Thank you for covering this. I’m a very proud Canadian from Ottawa and this holds so dear to my heart. It’s history in the making! The world is watching us and getting inspired and I couldn’t be happier – One post that I saw going through somewhere was: “…and then the people said NO. The end.” — WE LOVE YOU WORLD!!!
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Paul Whetstone
2 days ago
Thanks Freddie, for the best on the ground coverage of the mandate protest!
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*Hérétic
2 days ago
In short, if you are worried about your health, go see a trusted doctor. Don’t accept medical advises from any politicians.
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purplemoon1975
2 days ago
My Canadian truckers pulled me out of lost faith for humanity. Thank you.
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Patty Urban
2 days ago
Go truckers Go! But seriously, JT needs to talk to them and end this thing.
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Pia Nyström
2 days ago
Great interview! I am from Sweden and I thank all strong Canadians! I thank the truckers for showing that this mass hysteria is dangerous. Sanity will prevail! Thank you for your action!
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Lucia L
2 days ago
Thank you! Standing with truckers!
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Ali Bi
2 days ago (edited)
I’ve been watching and listening truckers in Ottawa for two weeks. Tim said the truth. Truckers are peaceful,smart and very familiar people. I hope they will win and back home safe.
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chamoto2
2 days ago
That honourable citizen talked more sense in a few minutes than all coronazis career politicians combined in the last 2 years.
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Shawn Eavis
1 day ago (edited)
Thanks for the great interview Freddie. As a Canadian, I’ve never felt more hopeful for my country in the last 2 years than I have since the trucker protest started. Who can listen to the trucker and honestly say that he’s unreasonable? Perfect healthy Canadians without a criminal record are barred from flying internationally * or domestically *, because why? They chose not to take a vaccine for a disease which most of them are not at any significant danger from. God bless the truckers! Hold the line boys!
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Lori Gustin
2 days ago (edited)
God bless these courageous truckers!!!! Sending prayers and support from Colorado We know that the “ mainstream media “ is dishonest and corrupt
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Serena Pimentel
2 days ago
So proud to be Canadian after two dark years!
Thank you Truckers.
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Andreas Sacrament
2 days ago
The last 20 days have been the best of the last 2 years hell we are living due to the heroic truckers and all the people fighting for our freedom. No more hate and division. We need to smile again and hug each other.
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Simone Tetz
2 days ago
Amen
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The Generalist
2 days ago
You either stand for freedom or you stand against freedom. There is not much of a grey area in between.
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Elisheva Adams
2 days ago
Thank you to the man you interviewed for representing Alberta, Canada, and all freedom loving people!
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Plant Powered Radio
2 days ago
A common sense Canadian! There are so many of us, thank you for covering this extremely important issue that’s being entirely misrepresented by all the corporate/state media, and completely ignored by many indy channels (because it’s all “white supremacist racists” )
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Barun Mitra
2 days ago
Thanks for providing a glimpse of the ground situation in Ottawa. You could have Tom Marazzo one of the key leaders of the Freedom Convoy on your program.
I am in India, and find the experience of the Freedom Convoy in Canada uncannily similar to the year-long farmers movement centred around Delhi.
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christine latham
2 days ago
Thank you unheard!!!! Just keep showing the actual people. Thank you to your boots on the ground reporter. The Canadians are going to free the Americans. We are so greatful for their peaceful and courageous actions Chris in Buffalo NY
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S Zeis
1 day ago
go truckers! “it doesn’t look like a protest”, way to go, so patriotic. solid, Freddie Sayers
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claudius Cubitus
2 days ago
Some people are saying : you are shutting the economy in Ottawa for 13 days.
Their answer is : Canadian government has shutdown the whole country economy for 2 years now !
2.5 million of protesters is not a fringe minority of a 38 million population!
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Rachelle Czeczko
2 days ago

Hope this will end soon,, wishing the truckers success !
Best to all Canadians
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New Forest Pony
1 day ago
When Trucker Tim said the children wrote notes about not being able to go to parties and parents being depressed because day care was closed and she had to quit her job, I realised how much the children have not had a voice and wept. Thank you for telling the truth.
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Joe Valdez
2 days ago
I had tears in my eyes hearing the plight of these heroic truckers. Thank you for covering this story with such honesty
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Based Boomer Chad Bear
2 days ago
End the illegal mandates.
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Nancy Sands
2 days ago
they can’t Justin already contracted to 11 shots per person. just doing biz

#WALLSTREETCOBRA
2 days ago
@Nancy Sands He can have them all. I did not vote for him, he does not speak for my voice.
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Nancy Sands
2 days ago
@#WALLSTREETCOBRA but, he used your taxes to pay for your preplanned “vaccines” dont be an ungrateful white supremacist. what are you afraid of? do you know how much “royalitys” he wont recieve if you dont man up ?

Biddy Dib Dab
1 day ago (edited)
I’m a locked down Canadian. We’ve been told how to think, how to act, and what to say by our Prime Minister and his government owned media. We’ve been called misogynist, racist, transphobic, genocidal, etc. We’re sick of living under the iron fist of government and fear it can only get worse if we don’t stand up. Tim says it like it is.
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Armando Anderson
2 days ago
Thanks for sharing this trucker’s direct experience of the protest. All what he said is the same story here in the US. It’s why we and the rest of the free world are cheering them on. They’re definitely making a difference with policies here.
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Karen Sparks
1 day ago
Respect and honor all the truckers there. Good for you all!
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S A
2 days ago
I love your channel. I’m very glad you covered this. I’m Canadian and in my province you can’t even go in a clothing store or hardware store if you aren’t vaccinated. I had to get vaxxed to keep my job but my boyfriend and brother aren’t. It’s winter and they can’t go buy a new coat or boots or fix a leaky roof or window. These mandates must stop. 90% are vaccinated; it should be enough. This convoy situation has shown us how mainstream media lies, distort and modifies the trurth in Canada. And our Prime Minister continues to push people to HATE the unvaxxed. This is a very horrible. i’m looking into moving somewhere else at this point.
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Nancy Patancy
2 days ago
I’m was born and bred in Quebec but left Canada in 1999. I am horrified at how the gov is treating the unvaccinated. The authoritarian tone makes me sick. I sure understand you wanting to leave. Me, on the other hand, I feel like up and moving back just to join the truckers. They are giving me my pride back. Yes 90% should be plenty to get their “herd immunity”. They’ve been changing the goal posts repeatedly and they’re all butt hurt that people won’t comply.
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counselthyself
2 days ago
every canadian knows that guy because he’s canadian. he’s half my family members.
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Laura Delahunty Burke
2 days ago
Thank you for covering this!!! I’ve been watching Unherd for the last two years, and I’m so happy that you covered what is happening in my country! I’m an RN on unpaid leave since the middle of December because I have assessed my own risk-benefit analysis and decided my risks associated with the vaccine far exceed my risks if I encounter the virus. Unfortunately, I’m not allowed to be a critical thinker in this age….
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Matt Rees
2 days ago (edited)
Tim, a well spoken man, and thanks for your sacrifice sir! Thanks Freddie for bringing us these interviews for the last 2 years+, good lord!
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Ali Pastorini
2 days ago
Thanks Freddie and all the team!
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Billywheeling
2 days ago
Thank you for covering the Freedom Convoy, Freddie. Keep your eyes on Ottawa this Saturday February 12, 2022. It’s going to be very big. PEACE. Please be in Ottawa to witness and ensure peace!
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Charlene French
2 days ago
Thanks for covering this! Canadian viewer here!
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Jacek Szymanski
2 days ago
I leave in Ottawa and I’m supporting the trackers 100%!!!
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Lizanne Ward
1 day ago
I’m Cdn. and the other aspect of this that gets little coverage with mainstream news is that due to Canada requiring a VP to enter and the US making a reciprocal requirement, unvaccinated Canadians are basically now prisoners (so to speak) here. This is because unless you have a Vaccine Passport, you cannot get on a plane (national or international), train, bus or ship to leave the country….unless you’re wealthy, have your own private jet or can hire one to take you to a country where the VP isn’t required. As a result of this another note so widely known fact is that these “rules” have made it unconstitutional under the Cdn. Charter of Rights and Freedoms and a lawsuit against the Federal Gov. has recently been filed. I’m vaccinated but find the treatment of the unvaccinated by our politicians and others to be extremely disturbing. I believe Justin Trudeau referred to them as being similar to racists and misogynists as just a couple of examples!
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David Deubelbeiss
2 days ago
Tim rulz. Mucho respect. A real hero. We’ll get you to Mexico for a good one, when this all ends!!!! thank you.
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Brent Atkins & Chrys Silvestre
2 days ago
Thanks for reporting. I’m in Ottawa and went to the protest. Legacy media has abandoned journalism and taken up the role of propaganda and smear. Independent news outlets have taken up the essential role.
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Bliss Behar
2 days ago
Unherd should interview Viva Frei! He is a lawyer doing livestream’s everyday of the convoy
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Nicole Salter
1 day ago
The best interview with a trucker I’ve heard and more articulate and transparent than 99% of the government experts. The Health Canada website is written so a 7 year old can understand it: Get the jab. Get 2 more. Not for you but to protect others. Otherwise, you can’t work or be part of society.
Thank you truckers and all who stand with them against the tyranny and lies of our government
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Ngahere Hedlund
6 hours ago
As a member of the younger generation I am immensely grateful for the men and women putting their lives and livelihoods on the line for freedom. Stand strong.
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Mark Persad
2 days ago
Thank you for a very interesting set of interviews that, for me, seem very sincere and honest.
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northrockboy
2 days ago (edited)
most trucks have smaller diesel heaters that keep the engine and cab warm without running the big engine. way less fuel used and emissions. Espar Heaters
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Bruno L
1 day ago
All support to the Truckers!!! It is more then time to end all the mandates!!! It is clear that out freedom is being taken away!!! Tks for fighting for freedom!!!
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asturianaenmuros
2 days ago
I would recommend Viva Frei on YouTube, he’s been covering this from the start. It’s astounding how many people recognise him as he walks around. He’s been a YouTuber I’ve watched for a while.
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LAWRENCE Winterburn
1 day ago
It’s a shame we Canadians have to get our news from the UK. Thank you.
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CHUN HAN CHIANG
2 days ago
There are megaphones, French horns, and all other kinds loud instruments! Show them your talents my fellow Canadian brothers and sisters! True North Strong and Free!
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Teresa Weston
1 day ago
Fantastic interview and coverage! Massive Respect to the Canadian Truckers!
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nycjordi
1 day ago
Thank you for this heartfelt interview with the trucker. Truly truly grassroots. Beautiful & inspiring!
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Kasandra H
2 days ago
When did govt get so big it’s unrecognizable or unthinkable it’s for us? WE THE PEOPLE! Thank you for covering this. X
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J
1 day ago
That 81 year old man who honked in support of the truckers was not only arrested but was kind of roughed-up by the cops. Saw the video on the Ron Paul Liberty Report. Disgusting behavior by those who should know better.
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VeganLyn Cat
2 days ago
Thank you for covering this!
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Cindy Brown
2 days ago
Ottawa is the Capitol of Canada it is the home of all Canadians not just those who live there. Guess they are just realizing that now Eh!
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lorna belkin
2 days ago
Fabulous Freddie nails it again! Watching here from just south of the Canadian border in Wa State and hoping our Governor is taking note!!!! Go Truckers, Go Canada, Go Brandon!!
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Helena Karlsson
2 days ago
Thank you to all the truckers!
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Charles Vincett
2 days ago
I am Canadain and I approve this message.
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chokoladni
2 days ago
Thank you, Truckers! You are true heros!!
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Life By Design One Day At A Time
1 day ago
Great job everyone! Thank you for the ground reporting! Much love to Mr. Tim! History in the making , let’s never forget the hard fought freedoms they are trying to take from us now! Thank you! Thank you for your courage. God bless!
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Gobaba Wonan
1 day ago
I’m Canadian and I can honestly say I’ve never seen anything like this in our country. People are pissed off. Many got vaccinated (like myself) and restrictions remained. We were locked down after being told it wouldn’t happen again post-vaccination. The Quebec government ordered people to stay in their homes after 10pm or else they’d be fined. A lot of horrible abuses of government power have taken place in Canada. I truly hope some of the politicians and officials responsible come up on charges of human rights abuse. I’m not sure the world really knows what has happened here, but they know more now
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Tracy Lydiatt
1 day ago
Thank you for highlighting with real reports / observations from on the ground. I live in BC, Canada and am grateful you’re using your platform to share what’s really going on. Thank you!
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STAND BY ME
2 days ago
The older gentlemen was abused…
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Mary Flemming
1 day ago
Thanks Freddie, from Alberta. Hoping to head to Ottawa on the weekend to join the patriotic troops for a week of peaceful resistance to all mandates, now and in the future. Never again!!
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NileQueen
1 day ago
Fantastic interview. Thank you so much for news from the ground, and what an excellent interview with Tim. Yes we want people in government who tell the truth.
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The Religion of Rationality
2 days ago
Love from France! Go Canucks!
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Nancy Baumgartner
1 day ago
Everyone needs truckers – no one needs bureaucrats, politicians, or “journalists “.
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Karen Erickson
1 day ago
Thank you for covering this Freddie, you have an uncanny ability to cover the right thing at the right time! If it weren’t for honest journalism we would all be in the dark! Thank you.

mushy
2 days ago
Has anyone heard a thing about cold or flu season the past 2-3 years? Is covid just a catch all for the common cold now
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Stockholm Syndrome
2 days ago
Yep
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Nadiah Savorn
1 day ago
I second that. yep

sukhmanicambridge
2 days ago
Love this trucker, he’s got it nailed.
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wigspike Jethern
2 days ago
Thanks for giving them a platform!!
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Don V
1 day ago
Way to go, Freddie. Thank you bringing to the table a perspective, we Canadian do not see on our legacy TV or radio networks.

Jenni Slaven
2 days ago
Thank you for covering this. I was there for the first day (in the frigid cold), it was completely peaceful and respectful. As an unvaccinated Quebecoise (in excellent health as I am an athlete), I can no longer go anywhere or do anything. Cannot take my dog to the vet, no shopping no outings no nothing. The worst are the headlines like “What should we do about The Unvaccinated? How long can we tolerate The Unvaccinated? “Claiming we are stupid selfish people who want the freedom to harm others, or are overunning the hospitals. The vibe is, frankly, terrifying. Our government and media have caused this. It’s breaking apart families and friends, causing more damage to mental health and economic problems on top of all the damage from the past 2 years. Trudeau must resign, and all restrictions must be lifted. Now. The truckers are brave courageous heroes fighting for what is right.
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Gary Smith
2 days ago (edited)
Interesting point about average age of forty and also many grandparents protesting, as that is exactly what you will see with the age of protesters in my country, Australia.
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Travis Sowden
2 days ago
Thank you for showing the truth! Mandate Freedom
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D N
2 days ago
Thank you God Bless!!
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Owen Crassweller
2 days ago
Freddy, thanks for covering this story.
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Linda C Welter
20 hours ago
Thank you, Freddie, for giving airtime to this matter; your interesting and fair reporting is much appreciated!

Mondegreen2020
2 days ago
Great video. Inspiring. Aussies need to wake up, especially those around me in Perth (where I can’t attend a cafe, pub etc, or get in or out of my own state’s hard border). We’re on the right side of history right now.
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Tracey Lockhart
1 day ago
Well done! Got me right in the heart when Tim spoke about the kids coming around to his truck with letters of thanks, cookies and sandwiches. So beautiful! Wish I could be there.
I am certainly there in spirit! Thank you from the bottom of my heart
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Mina Ariel
2 days ago
You are AWESOME Freddie covering this , always in the most wonderful way . BIG THANK YOU !!!
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Jez Burns
2 days ago
Thank you for the interesting in-depth content. It reminds me of UK channel 4 news before they all went mad.
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Non-clinging Awareness
2 days ago
Thank goodness for this movement.
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plAythemAnnoTthEpuCk _
2 days ago
Steady Freddie.
That thumbs-up at the end though. Man knows how to handle all-comers.
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777nydia1
2 days ago
Good interview. Keep it going Freddie! We need platforms like Unherd more than ever to hear the truth and protect our democracies all round this troubled world.

Dwayne Casey
1 day ago
The governments have overplayed their hand it seems. Long live the truckers!
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Amanda Williams
2 days ago
Heart warming, great video
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dana g
1 day ago
Thank you for, as always, covering the news in an accurate manner! Go truckers!!!

A N
32 minutes ago
Thank you, truckers, for standing in the gap for all the rest of us, fighting for our collective freedoms!!!!!

N Kal
2 days ago
Thank you for giving this true Canadian hero a voice. You’ve done more than our Prime Minister has done.

cobswin
2 days ago
Awesome Freddie!! Thank you kindly for continuing to be a voice of reason throughout an insane two years
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Johanna Barry
1 day ago
Excellent. I have tears in my eyes. What have come to when decent hard working people are being bullied by their government to obey or else? How is this remotely acceptable for any decent human being. And yet this appalling brutality is going on throughout most of the apparently liberal democratic west.
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SeriousSamwich
1 day ago
Thanks Freddie and Layla for some great reporting and stories.
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Aspen
2 days ago
Thank you, Canada for standing against these tyrants and showing the way to the world. After 2 years of working together to orchestrating a horrible distortion of life for the people, the world governments need to be held accountable. Every nation is standing up.

Epi
1 day ago
Bless Tim the trucker – what a wonderful person with so much common sense, who has suffered these senseless restrictions. No being allowed to attend your grandkids hockey games or go to a restaurant to celebrate with your family is criminal

Craig Farnsworth
1 day ago
Thanks for covering. The trucker nailed it- thanks to them all for protecting our charter rights

Cathy Burkart
2 days ago
Thank you & please keep covering the Truckers. Mainstream media’s barely eludes to it.
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Arthur H
8 hours ago
I really like the trucker gentleman. So refreshingly honest and straightforward. No politician in Ottawa speaks as eloquently.

robotluvr12
1 day ago
Thanks for the coverage. I was there last weekend and it was exactly the great vibe that Tim described. The other thing I kept hearing is that people are no longer going to stand by as the government divides people and pits them against each other. There was a big call for unity.

David Baron Stevens
13 hours ago
Stay strong truckers! You are carrying the torch for every one of us around the world who wants to say “ENOUGH”

PreciousStone
1 day ago (edited)
Power to the people. Amazing movement! May God bless and be with them every step of the way. Sending you all love and hugs from

Archie M
1 day ago
Freddie, thank you for covering this in a honest and unbiased manner

Lisa Lightner
2 days ago
Thank you. I was so glad to see Unheard on this story. The lies have been rampant after the networks finally deigned to cover it.
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The Generalist
2 days ago
WE WON! The PM walked out of parliament.
England has dropped all COVID precautions, why would Canada maintain ours?
Declare victory. Ignore the tyrants.
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Moni Kins
2 days ago
The PM is following orders but not from the Canadian people. JT is young global leader for WEF.
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Stockholm Syndrome
2 days ago
Klaus anal schwab’s little puppet
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Rachel
2 days ago
How wonderful to hear from Tim the Trucker! I would definitely vote for him.
Trudeau has emerged from under his bed to say mean lies – What a dumpster fire he is!
Go truckers! Love and support from North Carolina USA!!
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Chantelya Bubbles
1 day ago
Thank you for all the truckers and supporters. We are not the threat, we are united in our attempts to get thru and heal from this fuckery. Choice, choice, choices. We are in this together or divided! Much love to you all peaceful protesters
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Thai Thai
1 day ago
Trucker Tim! Strongly agree with his legitimate ethical concerns. I too would want to see the vaccines tests through time at least 5-10 years to know it’s safety profile/severe side effects
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Chris Wodke
1 day ago
Love and prayers from America! We stand with you!!!! You are an example of the world to fight our oppressive governments!

Marion
2 days ago
Thanks, Freddie! Great interview, informative, coherent.
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Peter Mathieson
1 day ago
Oh how I miss the Canada I knew as a child growing up. The true north, strong and free. Still strong, as the truckers have demonstrated, but now fighting to regain freedoms lost to our collectivist overlords.
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Slobodan Paunovic
1 day ago
God bless truckers and Canadian protesters.
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Follow Christ
2 days ago
Thank you, I wasn’t sure what was happening to the truckers and can’t rely on U.S. news so Thank you for the interview,
100% with Tim!

Nikk
6 hours ago
That was brilliant, thank you Freddie. Not seen anything like that covetage anywhere!

sustainf
2 days ago
Thank you truckers! You are heroes!
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Gustav Skans
2 days ago
Well done. Thanks for bringing this to us. Lovely report from Tim there. They are doing us all a favour. Much appreciated.

Ruth Longridge
2 days ago
A tiny fringe minority of well informed intellect
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Chris Medland
1 day ago
This is one of the best interviews representing the truckers.

Judy Gilbreath
2 days ago
Excellent coverage and interviews. The REAL story! Thank you Freddie
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Jean Ellis
2 days ago
Total respect for the truckers willing to stand for liberty and freedom. It takes guts to put your livelihood on the line. But better stand today when the government is weaponizing words rather than wait for conventional weapons.
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Christian Morency
2 days ago
Tim is awesome! Much Love for the truckers and so glad to hear they bring him food and coffee all the time!

Martine Bouillir
1 day ago
Its exactly the same in NZ – draconian tyranny here! we ae with the truckers adn have started our own smaller convoy here! Power to the people – stand up rise up!!!
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Jay Xavier
14 hours ago
Subtitles are badly needed for the (wo)man on the street interviews — these voices, literally, deserve to be heard.
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Catherine
1 day ago
I agree 100% with the trucker, well said.
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Carlita Ticconi
1 day ago
Thank you Truckers! You are giving us back the hope that we were losing.

Baa Baa Bathsheba
2 days ago
What a sensible chap (the trucker). Thank you for everything you’re doing. Solidarity from Cornwall UK

ray
2 days ago
Come to Ottawa. Support the Truckers. Solidarity!
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Dragon Bear
1 day ago
Keep going truckers!!!! You are fighting the good fight!
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ScooterNoMore
2 days ago
Thank you Freddie and crew….All the best from CANADA!
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W L
2 days ago
Bless those people out there protesting ! We love you.

AA OO
2 days ago
Excelent interview, as always.
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K16
2 days ago
End the mandates! End the restrictions! Reclaim your freedoms and fundamental human rights.
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Tony Spear
2 days ago
Huge respect to the truckers and all the fine Canadian people joining the cause . On Pfizer’s ridiculous delaying tactics releasing vaccine clinical data ,Tim’s comment ‘..’.I’ll get the vaccine in 55 years then,how about that?’ Brilliant !
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Stephen Bender
4 hours ago
What a pleasure it was to listen to this truck driver speaking more common sense in 10 minutes than I would hear is in two years coming from MSM or any political party. Much respect from Pennsylvania.

Diane Oliveira
23 hours ago
Great interview! This trucker said it all!!

Dc7
2 days ago
Shame others don’t demonstrate peacefully like these heroes
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Serena Pimentel
2 days ago
They’ve set a new standard!

Edward
2 days ago
Man of Complete Integrity! Wow! Stand Firm!
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Peter Mathieson
1 day ago (edited)
I’m vaccinated (reluctantly, or else I would have lost my job) and I’m from Ottawa, and I stand with the truckers. This is a battle between individual freedom and government overreach. Our world will be a very different place if freedom does not prevail.
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sandramA heynemana
1 day ago
Pray that you don’t get cancer or heart disease from the jab down the road

Harmony
23 hours ago
@sandramA heynemana what a literally disgusting comment to make to someone

Harmony
23 hours ago
@peter. Sorry you were coerced. This fight is about freedom of choice. Go truckers, love and peace to all in Canada

sandramA heynemana
16 hours ago
Well it’s true and he should be aware of the consequences. He’s a big boy.

Forbearance MP
2 days ago
These truckers are the salt of the Earth. God Bless them!
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Vivien L
2 days ago
Thank you truckers! And thank you for reporting the truth
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Infinite curiosity
1 day ago
Alberta has dropped all mandates, Saskatchewan has dropped all mandates. So 2 provinces now.
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Bobbie Veltri
2 days ago
Great interview with Tim
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TameThing
1 day ago
Keep it up, truckers! You’re awesome!
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Jassey Jefferr
2 days ago
Peaceful protest!
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Lionel P
1 day ago
This was the best interview I’ve seen anywhere on news or YouTube of the protest and the reason they’re there

Rockin’ Mama
21 hours ago
He speaks for soooo many of us

Plint Dillion
1 day ago
What a poignant remark concerning the children. The callousness of Trudeau’s government is so clearly exposed.
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Heather Feather
2 days ago
He’s right, they can stop the blockade but they can’t force the truckers to work. Not having goods moving for a week would literally leave millions starving.
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ute miller
1 day ago
Thank you for reporting on this Freddie.
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ApolloOverDionysus
2 days ago
The journalistic coverage we need.
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Christopher Charles
2 days ago
Canadians live such sheltered lives that they wouldn’t know when their rights are being violated or removed altogether. 2 weeks to flatten the curve has turned into 2 years with no end in sight until the Freedom Convoy showed up.
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Smities
1 day ago
Right, so ur logic is that Canadians are naive and clueless about their rights but they have also created the biggest backlash in the world. Yeah, that makes sense.

Christopher Charles
1 day ago
@Smities Anyone with any sense would know I’m talking about those that support mandates.

Bethany Wood
1 day ago
Maybe I’ll take it in 55 years genius, I love it!!
Go Canada, you guys are amazing! – xx-
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F Saleeh
2 days ago
Well done Canadians ,
Australia should be next
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Deborah Hebblethwaite
2 days ago
My favourite guy Freddie doing this. Thanks so much Ottawa.
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T S
2 days ago
As much as I support all these protests and demonstrations globally, I wish all these people would have understood the exact same, and stood up against this happening towards melanated people globally, the past 600+ years of european domination, oppression, colonialism, exploitation and racism. What’s happening globally now, has already been happening globally, so I find it hypocritical how so many speak of rights, freedoms and human rights being violated only now, when that’s been the case for over 600+ years for a majority of the world’s people.
See something, say something. For all.
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Alyshakulta
2 days ago
Hang on! You are very very important! Love & support from Finland!
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Hels Onwheels
1 day ago
Freddie, you are a trucking hero! Thank you.

Maria Rosano
2 days ago
Thank you so much for covering this. I love your videos. They are so informative and truthful.

Jackie Casey
2 days ago
Heaven forbid mothers take care of their own children.
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Israeldiegorivera Genius2 The real Genius
1 day ago
We have a moral duty not to comply. No to discriminatory vaccine passports and mandates, it is an utter disgrace. This must not happen England. Will never vote Labour or Tory again
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Plushie Bug
1 day ago
@UnHerd Excellent coverage! I’m an ordinary person living in Ottawa, and that trucker is describing EXACTLY what I’ve seen, and exactly my view of the situation. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION – most of Ottawa has been in no way disrupted by the protest. Life is proceeding exactly as usual, people everywhere I travel have been carrying on, not even bothered enough to talk about it. No fear, no inconvenience. My gratitude for all who have made this protest possible!
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Kelly Wicker
2 days ago
Great report! Thanks for sharing the truth as it is happening!
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John Buchman
2 days ago
If the Freedom Truckers can’t use their horns, we should send them a calliope (or maybe a complete carousel ). Also, they ought to play bagpipe music .
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dahkneelah
2 days ago
Honest reporting, thank you. CBC and CTV needs to take a course from you.

D Gomes
2 days ago (edited)
This protest has grown organically and has achieved the main objective of a voice against the mandates for most Canadians.
The provinces are listening and making adjustments to their release plans.
Please take a victory lap but please keep the Boarders open or the public support will quickly evaporate.
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Jane Rawluk
2 days ago
“As announced in November and as we’ve communicated with the industry recently, starting January 15, unvaccinated Canadian truck drivers entering Canada will need to meet requirements for pre-entry, arrival and Day 8 testing, as well as quarantine requirements.”

Dwayne Casey
1 day ago
Always remember these guys are fighting for your freedom and mine too. Love them for it

daelimefive
1 day ago
Freddie, what a journalist you are, even speaking with “a fringe minority”. While the “international left” is framing then badly or state media hardly reporting of it in Europe.
Thumbs up.

Zeeshan Khan
1 day ago
Freddie, thank you for giving these hardworking people a voice. It is much appreciated and keep up independent journalism alive. Perhaps at some point you can bring on Alex B_e_r_e_n_s_o_n. We the people really need to hear proper debate.

Brave Counsel
21 hours ago
The real heroes
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Chris Medland
1 day ago
This movement is positive. Local businesses and Shopping Mall could be open and making money if they would just let the movement in..

Donna Thompson
2 days ago
Thank you. Please keep up the great reporting.
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Irena B
2 days ago
Such brave and honest people, true patriots of their country. Shining example to all the world. Stay strong and God bless

Amelia M
1 day ago
We need to make a collection of these sweet (& heartbreaking) notes from the kids

BrenB
2 days ago
I think what the Truckers are doing is fantastic. Such a disgrace how the MSM are still not reporting the truth. Heros one and all.
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Susan Hillier
2 days ago
Thank you fellow Albertan. We are praying for you.
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Jason Dashney
1 day ago
7:00 I cannot emphasize this point enough. I’ve been blown away that probably the single biggest demographic is 45–60 year old women who look middle-class and well-kept. This is not a protest of angry young kids looking for a direction to vent their young people angst.

playonwords55
1 day ago
It’s now or never. This is a fight that will change the course of Canada’s future.

Jay Xavier
14 hours ago
Great work — and I’ve just subscribed to Leila’s Newsletter… One more reason to tune out of the mainstream media.
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Kevin Diaz-Lane
2 days ago
“Those [truckers] who aren’t vaccinated were forced to take a vacation and maybe just came to Ottawa” = unemployed by the tyrannical mandates.

Kate Lane
2 hours ago
Hi Freddie, Love all you do. Suggest you interview Viva Frei, real name David, a former lawyer, who does 4 hours live filming often, and captures every aspect of why Cdns are here. I watch his live streams and they give me hope that the Covidiocy will actually end.

Sara Sweetman
17 hours ago
God bless the truckers. Thanks UnHerd.

Herr M
2 days ago
Keep on trucking for the free World
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Kevin Diaz-Lane
2 days ago
Words of encouragement to our Canadian brothers and sisters:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. – US Declaration of Independence
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Stephanie D
2 days ago
As a Canadian thank you
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Tuca GG
2 days ago
RESPECT!
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Nina L
17 hours ago
Hold the line, Truckers. Thank you !

Lorraine Liberti
2 days ago
My northern neighbors have given me hope. The dominoes are starting to fall.
Thank you, Freddy, for letting us see what is really happening.

lovesees
2 days ago (edited)
Good Job UNHERD!!
Continuing to Live Up to Your Name
Give People Space & platform to say they’re stuff
& then People can decide what they think!
The Power has always been in the Hands of the Working Class
Go CANADIAN TRUCKERS
Go Planet EARTHEART

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Kim Klim
2 days ago
Thank you Canadians truckers!
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Yana Y.
1 day ago
Wow, what an awesome interview.
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Dave Walter
2 days ago
If you find the corporate media coverage of the truckers confusing and dishonest, try Rebel News on Rumble. They have had extensive coverage from the streets.
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Bumble Bee
2 days ago
Fantastic Interview. Thank you Tim from Canada. Australia.
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Rilla
1 day ago
Total respect to these truckers

abba del cielo
1 day ago
Tim the Trucker is awesome Extremely intelligent
Thank you Leila
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Paula Samec
20 hours ago
Stay firm, dear truckers! The free minded world has your back!

Dionne’s DIY Adventures
2 days ago
I am so excited you reporting on this, can’t wait to sit back and watch.

4himsanctified
2 days ago (edited)
Strains of Robert the Bruce. Hmmm, honking should be considered a form of free speech
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Pero Juric
21 hours ago
FULL support from fellow EUropean! Enough of this covid fascism!

Rui Martins
2 days ago
This is certainly a movement – protest in NZ at parliament.
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Bobby Josson
17 hours ago
This channel is like the BBC of old, the Reithen one before it was dismantled in the ’90s. Fair, clear, unbiased and trying to understand.

Ida Greenwood
1 day ago
What a great interview! Thank you

Robert Beaulieu
2 days ago
Thank you for covering this. Go truckers, farmers, blue collars & supporters. Check footage ———————————–> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxD89BpARa4
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ANGELA
2 days ago
The mainstream media has been despicable. We can’t even watch it anymore because it is so biased. We stand behind the truckers all the way as they are fighting for all Canadians’ freedom.
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#WALLSTREETCOBRA
2 days ago
Great content.
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mrleekel
2 days ago
The ‘interview’ with the trucker was/is right on the subject ! he nails the problem right on the head. ‘i’m living in B.C. drove a city bus for 34 years, ( not an easy job!) a person/driver ( even a bus driver) is basically on their own in their cab/bus and there are not real ‘problems’ with interactions with other people !,,

Maria sin filtros
1 day ago (edited)
Great stuff! love Unheard, really lives up to its name and mission! this is real journalisim

mowen0yuriko
1 day ago
Excellent interview with the truck driver
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Athena Parusudis
2 days ago
Be strong Canadians. Be united. You are the ray of hope

the salty sweet podcast
23 hours ago
6:25 excellent point. my Romanian neighbours escaped communism, and they are very unhappy with the path our govt is walking.

Lana B
1 day ago
God bless them one and all
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The Mike Rose Intuitive iQ Podcast
2 days ago (edited)
Great interview with trucker Tim!

Algernon Calydon
1 day ago
Not at all like being forced to sit in the back of the bus, or not allowed in white restaurants, or not allowed to participate in the main part of society, not at all.
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The unvaccinated Canadian
2 days ago
Awesome interview
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The Mike Rose Intuitive iQ Podcast
2 days ago (edited)
Next time please tell Leila to hand the mic to people so that we can actually hear what they are saying. How to interview someone 101.
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Rui Martins
2 days ago
What you said Freddie – is this the begging of something else. I would like to see that explored.
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simclardy1
2 days ago
all the parties jiving for that paycheck. They don’t really care. Tim nailed it
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Birdie B
2 days ago
Great interview.
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Manjit U
1 day ago
What a beautiful interview.

Jp Rox
16 hours ago
That’s the only way that the Will of the People will be taken Seriously to fight for Human Rights & Freedom

Sue Thody
2 days ago
good man Tim and Freddie.
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Pascal Soucy
2 days ago
I am from Ottawa so I can confirm, they are effectively blocking off two small city blocks….. no joke, that’s it. Once you get 200 meters from the Hill there are no trucks, everything is as usual.

Phyllis Booth
1 day ago
Thank you, Ottawa Trucker. You are a super smart integrity filled person. I wish you were prime minister.

Activated Oxygen
1 day ago (edited)
EPIC!! This is an amazing good reporting video.. Thank you so much!!!!! Post it on Rumble, Bitchute, etc. so that when YouTube takes it down it has spread to so many freedom loving people through the right channels.

Tara Choufi
2 days ago
Proud of my fellow Albertan
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Juliette Autumn
2 days ago
I love hearing our Canadian accent from every corner of the globe
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Smities
1 day ago
That’s an accent. It’s not “our” fuking accent. I don’t talk like that. U don’t speak like me or for me.

K Nielson
2 days ago
THANK you truckers– Love from the US!

Freedom Convoy 2022!
2 days ago
Thank you truckers!!!!
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Ms Bramble
1 day ago
All the government needed to do is lift the mandates as soon as it became obvious they were not significantly preventing transmission.

Rockin’ Mama
21 hours ago
Continue to fight for freedom
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Khalid Safir
1 day ago
Real journalism, thank you.

Suzie Brouillet
2 days ago
Great coverage !!! From Quebec going this saturday with a mega convoy from the east!

dave evans
23 hours ago
Good for you guys!!

bluebellbee幌
16 hours ago
HeroesThank you for sharing this great interview!! much love from Sapporo♡

Richard MOORER
2 days ago
Mandates are nothing but coersive tactics or suggestions.. They are Not law..
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Jan Jackson
1 day ago
The Canadians as do most intelligent people know that if we allow our freedoms to be taken, it won’t stop there.

All Seeing Eye
1 day ago
I literally hadn’t bothered to look at this story in the msm until yday…. I was SHOCKED! The united NEGATIVITY was astounding! The Guardian of all outlets was the most vociferous (and to think they hold out a begging bowl every time you read one of their crappy articles!).
Every single msm outlet is singing from the exact same song sheet – something you NEVER see on any other contentious issue. Anyway, seeing that just clarified everything even more for me…….
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K Wood
2 days ago
They should get help from other patriots people should fly from all over the world & help out.
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Julian Weekes
2 days ago
Great conversation …. thank you
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Robert Beaulieu
2 days ago
Thank you for covering this. Go truckers, farmers, blue collars & supporters. Check footage ———————————–> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxD89BpARa4
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Ged of Gont
2 days ago (edited)
I like truckers and I like trucking.
Has anyone offered to send them a consignment (or maybe a truckload) of Yorkee bars?
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Castle of Music
8 hours ago
GOD BLESS ALL THOSE WONDERFUL TRUE CANADIANS ARE STANDING FOR FREEDOM

xenon2
2 days ago
I’ve shared this video on my FB wall, this is so important… and of course corporate owned “public channel” pushed “COVID VACCINE INFORMATION” below the link.
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Night Owl
2 days ago
Wow! Great interview!

Friendly One
2 days ago
Peasants with pitch forks, torches and trucks taking on the lord of the castle. Proud to be a Peasant.
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boohacker
1 day ago
100% support for the truckers

lobsterboy2020
1 day ago
Love the inclusion of “Fuck Trudeau” in three foot tall lettering on the side of that truck. Fabulous.
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Amanita Woodrose
1 day ago
What a dude! Thank you Tim!

weName
2 days ago
God Bless the truckers!!!!

N Bach
1 day ago
Truckers in Canada were dropped off “essential workers list , therefore many were left without work. Many are vacancinated ,many opted out. The point Truckers are trying to get across no mandates all together, they want choice for themselves and everyone else.

M
2 days ago
Outstanding Canadian.
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Pat D
1 day ago
Stop with asking “is this anti vax?” Antivax label is so tired. Get at the real issues.
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Harmony
23 hours ago
Well said. It’s not anti vax. It’s PRO human rights and freedom of choice.
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medianmack
16 hours ago
Love the format of walking around live.

sidDkid87
2 days ago (edited)
SOLIDARITY!!!
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K. Dickie
1 day ago
Tim the trucker is a critical thinker and has more ‘Common Sense” than most of those that have university degrees who live in the big cities and are so busy with their lives that they catch a little MSM and believe everything they hear. Thanks Freddie and Leila for bringing common sense to the rest of the world at least those willing to hear both sides. Thank you Tim, you and the truckers are freedom fighters, right up there with the wonderful Canadians who served their country, in WWI, WWII, Korea, all our peace keeping campaigns and our first responders, healthcare workers and the police who have served to keep us secure, not so much those who have blindly enforced the demands of the tyrants.
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St. Veronica
1 day ago
I am so relieved that the Truckers have “Taking the Reigns” for The Global Silence on Communism.. We need to take back our “God Given Freedom”. So grateful to the Truckers, God Bless all of you!!!

Axel Neve
1 day ago
I hope that they will be successful and spread all over the world!
Greetings from Germany which becomes the GDR 2.0.

April Sim
2 days ago
Tim worry not about losing your truck. Crowd funding can be a solution.
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Hugh Kwan
1 day ago
tq for showing us this true and fair picture which is smeared by corporate media.

Brian Desjardins
2 days ago
Well done!
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Joel Dumont
2 days ago
Much love to my alberta brother
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The Skeptic
1 day ago
Canberra , Australia huge rallies there for over a week now . It’s where our Parliament House is
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Lucy Rane
1 day ago
Stay strong! Stay peaceful. Be like Jedi. They want you to become ‘a riot’.

Niveditha Christina
2 days ago
Why honest working class is battered with senseless rules is always beyond me . Mr JT can’t pick and choose what he wants to discuss when he got elected he got the responsibility of the whole country . So much sham in the name of science

Bucko Haram
13 hours ago
Wholesome and cosy, well done Unherd.

Cristina H Melo
2 days ago
You are very much balanced and that is very good!!! Thanks
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Hilding
1 day ago
Lovely guy and interview, thanks
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The Mike Rose Intuitive iQ Podcast
2 days ago
Hold the line!

Andrew K
2 days ago
Amazing people!

Fade masterfade
2 days ago
Good reporting but please use better equipment I know this is grassroots and no funding but this channel is great and has the potential to be big.

ajaxfilms
2 days ago
Well done!

Paul D’Attilio
2 days ago
Go Truckers, Go Canada
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hussar 63 – EU under Socialist Germany – hmm!!!
15 hours ago
TRUDEAU’S SAYING TO CANADIANS”you need to go home’, SOMEONE TELL HIM, wherever a Canadian stands in the country, they ….ARE home! It’s HE who now needs to go home.

Delta 67
2 days ago
Truckers need to be in Parliament.
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E Lipsis
2 days ago
Tim…thank you for your sacrifice.
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Grace Clermont
2 days ago
There was an incidence at the shepherds of Good Hope,and because of that Thay received donation up to 750 thousands dollars it show on the news

David Harrington
4 hours ago
It takes a lot to piss off Canadians but when you do, stand back…

Kilikina
2 days ago
Thanx Freddie for coverage!

Lynn Ayers
2 days ago
Great report!!!
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Will A
1 day ago
This new series of ice road truckers is brilliant!

D C
2 days ago
Truckers around the world are behind our Canadian Brothers

alan robinson
2 days ago
The Canadian parliament building looks like Bradford town hall,but not as nice.
Canadian truckers are world heroes(iam vaccinated). Vaccination makes no sense now with Omicron.
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Jen Teale
2 days ago
Thank you, Canadian truckers.!!! No more mandates, no more emergency measures !!! I am double `vaccinated`, but will not be getting any more shots now that omicron has cancelled out the delta variant. Yes, the parliament building looks like the Bradford, and the Bolton Town Hall buildings
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OneLine
1 day ago
Good interview. I like that you just found some unofficial guy.

Steve B
1 day ago
No mandates now, or ever again
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abba del cielo
1 day ago
Bravo Unherd
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Gary Smith
2 days ago
Freedom over fear. No mandates. Go Canadian truckers and famers and all supporters!

Brigitte Beltran
8 hours ago
HEROS!!! ⚘⚘⚘⚘

Vivienne G
1 day ago
Thank you Truckers!!

mekg
2 days ago
Vancouver bc has the main shipping port in canada….things come from far away…..goods arrive from trudeau’s favorite country…….a real important port…..have a nice day.
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Potos potos
2 days ago
The Indian farmers protests have greatly influenced these protests world over

Simon Virus
19 hours ago
Great stuff, from AUSTRALIA

Geode
2 days ago
EXCUSE ME, COMING THROUGH
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Nancy Hurren
1 day ago
Great coverage

Billywheeling
2 days ago
Absolutely Tim!!!
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Mina Ariel
2 days ago
Tim Is wonderful Guy !
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Julia S
2 days ago (edited)
We need to listen to the concerns of all Canadians and respect each other’s feelings and opinions. Unfortunately our politicians have not done enough of that, but instead have politicized the pandemic and too many have been partisan and self serving in their actions and messaging. Of course this has further fuelled frustration and anger in a population already suffering so much. I personally do not agree with the actions of the “truckers” (there are not only truckers involved.) though I respect every citizen’s right to protest. I think it would have been only fair to interview some truckers (most are vaccinated and working btw) and others who have different views
and experiences to Tim’s, no? Does this have to be so polarized? For a more moderate; thoughtful and reasoned view from a Liberal no less (I’m not a Liberal) listen to Liberal MP Joel Lightbound’s press conference in which he raises his concerns with how his party has been handling the pandemic. He has been applauded from across the political spectrum for showing some badly needed compassion and thoughtfulness on these issues. Not surprisingly his comments have been subject to appropriation so it’s important to go to the source. The full press conference can be found on CPAC (Cable Public Affairs Channel).
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The Generalist
2 days ago
No. You either stand for freedom to choose or you stand against freedom. There is not much grey area in between. How much more evidence do you need that the vaccine is more dangerous than the COVID virus and the lockdowns? You cannot fight a Mass Formation with logic or evidence. You have to change peoples beliefs, and only individual people can change their personal beliefs. You are free to believe whatever you want. You have no right to infringe on my my freedom of belief.
Lol! If COVID was really that deadly and painful don’t you think people would be lining up to get vaccinated?
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Bruno Zanotti Schneider
2 days ago
Thank you, UnHerd.

Richard Elly
2 days ago (edited)
Great interview it’s give me tears to my eyes
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Cassandra Bond
2 days ago
Thank you for your BRAVERY.
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Suzy i am
18 hours ago
Respect guys stay strong and true

Dan
1 day ago
Unheard doing some REAL journalism

Matrose27
1 day ago
This won’t change anything long-term
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sidDkid87
2 days ago
“the cracked bells and washed out horns / blow into my face with scorn” ~ dylan

Melissa Buhler
2 days ago
HEROES
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Matthew K
14 hours ago
The official U.S government website ‘Clinical Trials.Gov’ states that the ‘phase 3’ clinical trial completion dates for each vaccine are as below.
Moderna: October 27, 2022
Janssen (Johnson & Johnson): January 2, 2023
AstraZeneca: February 14, 2023
Pfizer: May 2, 2023
The ‘phase 4’ clinical trial which is the final study regarding the long term side effects will be completed in December 31, 2024
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MM
2 days ago
These protests are being held in large numbers in various cities across Canada. Every Saturday people gather in different cities in support of the truckers. we will continue to do so until these mandates, passports and jobs terminations due to unvaccinated status ends.

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dahkneelah
1 day ago
More bouncy castles;)

Leszek Nagooglach
1 day ago
Poland’s first national strike was crushed by the communists with people locked in prison or out of work and a dozen or so killed by the riot police. A decade later we had another national strike and we abolished communism. Greets and supporet from Poland!
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EricLV2020
1 day ago
if Trudeau had any understanding of where his true power comes from, he’d go out into the street and talk to the truckers. His failure to listen to them will cost him dearly.

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Harmony
23 hours ago
Agree but he doesn’t believe they have the power, he believes it comes from higher up the chain as it always has before ….

inbox0000
1 day ago
“Mostly peaceful” and respectful I guess

Christine Tan
4 hours ago
Isaiah 63:4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
Jeremiah 50:36 A sword is upon the liars; and they shall dote: a sword is upon her mighty men; and they shall be dismayed.
Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
Romans 8:14-16Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Proverbs 11:4 Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death. Proverbs 11:28 He that trusteth in his riches shall fall: but the righteous shall flourish as a branch.
Matthew 19:23-24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Man is a spirit and he can only be satisfied by GodIsaiah 55:1-2 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
Philippians 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst John 11:25-26 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Matthew 16:24-26 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
(God is not indebted to us but we are indebted to God.)
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. (All souls belonged to God but the soul that sinneth it shall die).Psalms 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3.23. Hebrews 9:27-28 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation
The wages of sin is death ( physical and spiritual death) but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Revelation 21:7-8 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.(1st death-physical death 2nd death-eternal death). Eternal death means eternal tortures in hell.
Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:5-6 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Romans 8:14-16 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shall believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved. Romans 10.9
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3.16.
Romans 5:8-10 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast. Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
(Just open your heart by faith by accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. Today, if you hear his voice do not harden your as in the days of provocation. The time of grace is soon closing. Please do not waste your opportunity to repent because whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 20.15. Please don’t die till you make your decision to follow Christ.)
John 6:53-54 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath ETERNAL LIFE; and I will raise him up at the LAST day.
1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, …
James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.)
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Hans Wienhold
2 days ago
Canadian truckers are true heroes.

Jassey Jefferr
2 days ago
Thanks TIM!!!!!!!
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PB in SB
1 day ago
Covid cases have been going down dramatically in Canada so the restrictions would probably be lifted soon, even without protests
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alex
2 days ago
Actual reporting!

Andrea Ward
1 day ago
Tim for President of the world!

lee cee
2 days ago
“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
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San Autin
1 day ago
Go Canada, Go!

Karl Gerhard Roth
1 day ago
I live in Ottawa and I have a much different opinion on the trucker occupation than your interviewer. While the majority of the truckers are reasonable there is an extremist fringe that the organizers could not control. They parked dozens of trucks not just on empty government streets but on local residential streets, blocked driveways, and started honking horns all night. The families living there could not sleep, and the police did nothing about it. I heard it was so bad that some people had to move out temporarily to hotels and friends to be able to sleep. Your interviewer says she lives three kilometers away and heard no honking, but I live about ten kilometers away from downtown and heard the truckers in the morning through my closed window. To their credit the demonstration organizers did try to stop the honking at night, but they could not. Only about a week later when a local resident, not the city of Ottawa, convinced a judge to grant an injunction against the all-night noise did it stop.
The truckers also harassed workers at a downtown homeless shelter, dozens of them forced their way into a local plaza without masks leading to the closure of the plaza, the 911 system in Ottawa was flooded with many bogus calls (probably by US supporters), and finally they blocked traffic for a few hours at the local airport. Each of these claims are not just publicity statements as this interviewer claimed, they are verifiable facts that people are willing to swear to under oath in a court of law. The truckers’ actions in Ottawa are mostly for the world-wide publicity they gain for their cause. The real economic damage is being done at the closed border crossings.
Most people in Canada do not care if the vaccine mandates are not enforced on the remaining ten percent unvaccinated, like the truckers. But even in Alberta which has lifted almost all restrictions, the truckers will not stop their border blockade in that province. The truckers say they will leave Ottawa only when all Covid restrictions in all of Canada are lifted. However, most such restrictions are provincial, not federal (Ottawa) and what they do here has no influence on the provinces outside of western Canada. They have structured their demands knowing that they will not be met.
The incompetence of the Ottawa police chief led to this situation. In no other Canadian city did the police allow hundreds of trucks into their downtown core, and in no other city did a trucker demonstration turn into a multi-week occupation. The truckers are slowly spinning out of control, and when our vacillating police force or the army finally take action a horde of international web sites like yours will cry foul without really having any idea of why this is happening.
Yes, many people in Canada are frustrated by Covid restrictions and all level of governments should present a clear plan on removing their Covid restrictions. But there are some special things about Canadian law enforcement that make such actions as the trucker occupations easier. The primary goal of all the police forces in Canada is not to enforce the law. Instead, it is about enforcing the law only if this does not lead to a violent confrontation with people who are demonstrating for a cause. The police bend over backwards to avoid any violent confrontation with demonstrators of more than a few dozen people. It was the same situation in the native inspired blockades a few years ago. In Ottawa the police are especially tolerant because of the many demonstrations that take place in the capital.
Yes, Trudeau has made this situation worse by refusing to meet with the truckers, when by contrast he did meet with the natives when they made similar blockades a few years ago. Yesterday the leader of the Conservative opposition who has supported the truckers in the past said for the first time that they should leave Ottawa. When their friends say this then the truckers should listen.
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Melissa Leeson
1 day ago
Go work at a local farm, grow your own food, just get the hell away from these big corporations!

Robbie Parker
1 day ago
Is there an East v West street hockey game this weekend ? Best of 3, 1-0 West

Marina kiblitsky
1 day ago (edited)
If you get seriously sick with COVID you go to Canadian hospital for life saving treatment , right? Take a look at how many people are dying in Russia from covid/omicron where only 40% of population is vaccinated. Our government is far from perfect but they did the best they could under terrible situation.

John Flavin
2 days ago
Part of of a politician’s job description is to be a Professional Liar.
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Harmony
23 hours ago
And they get so well groomed

Me Gronk
1 day ago
How dare health care professionals try to keep everyone safe while these “freedom fighting truckers” fight for the right to spread a potential deadly disease…

Fuzzy Logics
2 days ago
Thank you
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Terry Hall
2 days ago
Just to keep things in perspective: Close to 70% of Canadians interviewed in an Abacus Data nationwide poll feel they have “very little in common with how the protestors in Ottawa see things.” A clear majority of Ottawa residents oppose the convoy and their demonstrations in the city.

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Moni Kins
2 days ago
Well that makes sense because most of that 70% are government employees and haven’t missed a paycheque.
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dahkneelah
1 day ago (edited)
Yeah, too bad they all watch legacy media. These truckers are nothing but racist and misogynist, they had a national and confederate flag, they beat up homeless people and raided a shelter, they prevented an old lady from sleeping, they’re preventing us from getting our amazon packages, they’re terrorizing the city….pathetic. Or…don’t they know that they’re going to kill everyone with their hate speech, we’re almost out of this ever expanding tunnel, now we’re all going to die again…
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Enat P
2 days ago
Oh that’s really interesting… So the trucker who is smoking doesn’t like paying taxes and is worried about the health impacts of a vaccine?? Who do you think is going to be paying for his health care as the impact of his smoking and perhaps other lifestyle factors catches up to him??

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Shelley Philcox
2 days ago
@Enat P How much tax do Canadians pay on a pack of cigarettes?

Enat P
2 days ago
@Shelley Philcox that information is available on the internet. And I’m guessing that’s a rhetorical question. So if this protestor is against paying taxes, as he says he is, I’m not sure he understands what will actually be funding his health care costs when he needs them. I’m not a smoker but I understand and accept that some of my taxes will go to health care costs in Canada for this very reason.
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Linda Klotz
2 days ago
the dried leaves and flowering tops of the pistillate hemp plant yield THC and are smoked in cigarettes for their intoxicating effect, government loves the tax from this, guess they are not worried about lifestyle

dahkneelah
1 day ago
Maybe we should have discussed health back in March of 2020 when we knew that metabolic syndrome and vitamin d levels were corelated with poor outcomes. This has never been about health, so give us back what you stole from us, our humanity.

Shelley Philcox
1 day ago
@Enat P And he will be paying for people right now who drink to much, or indulge in frivolous and dangerous high risk sports, or drive recklessly and cause accidents etc. The tax on his cigarette purchases will no doubt also contribute considerably to Canadas tax revenue.

Starseed
1 day ago
Go truckers go!!
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Angela Wood
2 days ago
Hold the line Truckers
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rattylol
2 days ago
Fantastic thank you.
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Twinx Pasco
1 day ago
Truckers are heroes

Keith Blond
2 days ago
Stand firm truckers
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Bob Rengaw
1 day ago
A few good Men…bless you!

vincent sparkes
2 days ago
Great stuff!
yes!Leave us alone!

Richard MOORER
2 days ago
Smart people havent taken the Jim Jones Juice Toxic Jab..
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Hans van den Berg
1 day ago
this is a world without God, without respect for authority, wether it is God or government. Point is made for sure, harm is done to local people also but these truckers dont care anymore and just think about themselves. that s called egoism, selfishness, rebellion. fire them

F S
2 days ago
Has anyone seen the data that proves the safety and efficacy of the vax? Anyone?
Any doctor out there who can share that data? Or should we take your word for it?

Ama S
2 days ago
HOLD THE LINE
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Gavrin Mahaffey
17 hours ago
Excellent!

Steve Edmunds
2 days ago
Was chatting to my barber today, he’s originally from Iraq so has first hand experience living under a dictatorship so takes a keen interest in current affairs. I couldn’t believe it today when I mentioned the truckers and he had no clue. MSM doing their work…
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Greg Grimer
Greg Grimer
2 days ago
People are very lazy. They don’t care until it affects them.

Laura Griffiths
2 days ago
Mass psychosis

T. Marinelic
2 days ago
We should make a Trucker 2022. stamp illustrated
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Stuart Smith
1 day ago
Governments we don’t want regulation we want transparency.

KirkpatrickFamilyParty
2 days ago
Truckers Savin the free world

Richard Needham
2 days ago
I Truckers
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F Saleeh
2 days ago
Come one they are Canadian , they can’t be but friendly

hansiharjunharja
2 days ago
Thank you <3
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raffaele serusi
2 days ago
God bless CANADIAN truckers

CA M
2 days ago
Great report.

Lukasz Zi
2 days ago
this is how media should look like
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Bartlomiej Nowak
1 day ago
What’ s the lies in tv what’s not in reality?,Overwhelmed hospitals( in reality empty, but full of singing and dancing idiots) .Bidens success ( unemployment, criminality rised to the sky, supply chain broken, energy and gasoils prices jumped to the space).Could nominate i endless , so. Thanks for another great video
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Paul M
2 days ago
Best wishes from uk

Em Taranto
21 minutes ago
Dont give up people!!!!

J
20 hours ago
Ottawa is a “relatively small city” of 1+ million people LOL

ray
2 days ago
Many Doctors are not permitted to speak. Early treatment was FORBIDDEN. That is why many died.
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dahkneelah
1 day ago
This is the time to speak out.

andreacostanza
2 days ago
Aas Always Thank You Freddie

ANDY RAEBER
1 day ago (edited)
Well reported. Thanks

Mathieu
2 days ago
@Unheard PLEASE stop using the Antivax word. This is disrespectful and incorrect.
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Good luck everyone
1 day ago
Don’t trust anyone that wants to force wonderful things upon you!

Catarina SM
1 day ago
F R E E D O M
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Ion E
1 day ago
Held acountable your piliticans…otherwise this will be repeated in the near future
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Will B
2 days ago
Awesome!!¡!!!
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Lee Arnold
2 days ago
Real life Heroes Free Canada of Trudeau

GrainFarming
1 day ago
Unbelievable that the elite fine people for honking

Lucia Fiero
2 days ago
When I saw the preview with the sound down, I thought, “What is Jon Stewart doing in a truck talking to Freddie Sayers?”
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mike
2 days ago
2.4 million just in Ottawa, only
A small fringe manority
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z
2 days ago
Robert the Bruce’s strains
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Dan Howard
2 days ago
Check Viva Frei for the best coverage on this in Canada
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Son Quatsch
1 day ago
freddie sayers just saying the word trucker !!! LOL….it’s like i imagine freddie saying to himself, oh god i cannot believe i have to use this word trucker. and making so a vomit/gagging face. we know freddie, truckers are the epitome of not posh. it’s o.k.
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ellie
2 days ago
Best Wishes from London town!

Shaggy Randy
2 days ago
Address the governments right to shut down peoples human rights
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Jeremy C
2 days ago
Thanks from Australia !
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Bennett Guinn
1 day ago
It’s about MANDATES not vaccination.

ub2bn
2 days ago
Are you listening, Justin? Are you listening???
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dahkneelah
1 day ago
No time, gotta look in the mirror just a little more.

Michelle Bistrup
1 day ago
They need sirens

Purple Flame
2 days ago
Thank you
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Adam H
2 days ago
Jon Stewart has a Canadian truck driving relative that he does not know about

WELL BEHAVED DOGS
2 days ago
And $9million stolen from the truckers GoFundMe account!
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rirhandzu mathebula
1 day ago
Truckers, the new military coup

christianpnorris
2 days ago
Get that man to Cabo!!

chicken liver
2 days ago
Great format but give the girl a mic
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Theis Palm
2 days ago
<3 <3 <3 people power <3 <3 <3
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Chris T
2 days ago
Too bad you didn’t get to interview one of the leaders who seem to be a bit more articulate and/or circumspect.

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11antun
11antun
2 days ago
Thank you
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Purple Soul
1 day ago
Freedom anyway !!

Nathan Rhodes
2 days ago
Can we mandate the prohibition of bluetooth?

Flywood Lab
2 days ago
heroes

bruce wayne
2 days ago
Anybody know how we can still get money to these guys?
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Harmony
23 hours ago
No, not after hearing millions stolen from their go fund me account

ray
2 days ago
National strike time!
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i is
1 day ago

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Giuseppe RSA
2 days ago
Here in South Africa not a single mention in any of our media..not a single mention!
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dahkneelah
1 day ago
Gotta spread the love yourself.

Michelle Ippel
2 days ago
There are bouncy castles and speakers and a big party.
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Ann Gray
2 days ago
Don’t move till the mandates end and the Canadian leadership is dissolved.

Castle of Music
8 hours ago
NO TYRANNY

umustbbornagain acts 2:38
2 days ago
Freddie you need an account on gettr and post some vids on rumble!

kojche
1 day ago

Roy Maitland
2 days ago
Bells and Whistles
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Friendly One
2 days ago
100% comments supportive
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Gretchen K.
2 days ago
Salt of the earth
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wonderland78
1 day ago
Jon Stewart’s let himself go.

2121gul
2 days ago

irutinka
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Brayden Kosar
19 hours ago
Go home or to jail .

Safeway
2 days ago
FYI 2.5 million people arrived in Ottawa on the first weekend – according to police estimates
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derosa1989
2 days ago
You need better sources, that number has been debunked as physically impossible.

Safeway
2 days ago
@derosa1989 I did not say D/T

Safeway
2 days ago (edited)
@derosa1989 my supportive link where the stage speaker said this got eliminated within 5 secs of posting. Speaker Chris Sky – use search term : chris sky ottawa 2022 trucker convoy speech on rumble in case link disappears

Safeway
2 days ago
@derosa1989 wow that’s a pretty quick copy/paste… need time to analyze … who benefits from small crowd…. 1st question.

derosa1989
2 days ago
@Safeway feel free to research, and find good sources. I’m not here to minimize their cause, I just want the truth. If the protesters are upset at mainstream media sources, governments, and hospitals are giving misleading covid statistics, and using bad data, we should want real numbers, for everything right?
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Safeway
2 days ago
@derosa1989 truth in all spheres is the highest of worthy pursuits. Berean at heart.

Son Quatsch
1 day ago
freddie !!! LOL should we maybe stop and talk to some of these people. u are so posh..

Grace Clermont
2 days ago
We all so taier of the luckdonws ,but wat Canadians are apset is that 50″%of the money raze cames from the shouth of the border and have amaricans involve on this is not expected let them take car of there on problems and stay out of are problems Canada is an endepent country and see wat Thay are doing and the coments from Trump descusting
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Defyanse
2 days ago
Not anti-vax! Vaccine hesitant.
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Harmony
23 hours ago
Not anti vax. PRO human rights and PRO freedom of choice.

j delaplaya
2 days ago
How to be posh and unheard. Watch the northern monkeys unravel,

Safeway
2 days ago
Stop emphasizing Truckers, its grandma’s children…. vast from all Canada came to Ottawa.
Its the People ( which of course includes Truckers – the tip of the spear)
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Larry E
2 days ago
This video is being shadow banned

j delaplaya
2 days ago
Describe the scene Muggle

Eitan Straisfeld
1 day ago
“What’s your impression of the protest?”, “Very friendly and festive”. Meanwhile over her shoulder there’s an 18 wheeler that says “Fuck Trudeau” on the whole length of the Trailer. I wonder if you could see that clearly from the bouncy castles they set up for the kids.

Castle of Music
8 hours ago
WE ARE NOT A LABORATORY RATS

Marks World
2 days ago (edited)
Your vaccine status is private…unless YOU share it

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dahkneelah
1 day ago
Tried that one…
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dahkneelah
1 day ago
Lost me job anyways
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Harmony
23 hours ago
Fighting for freedom. For all. Not specifically vaxed or unvaxed.

Lairdini
2 days ago
Oh Canada!
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Neil Aspinall
2 days ago
I think the College Boy is scared.
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Geode
2 days ago
hoooooooooooooooonk
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Son Quatsch
1 day ago
this was so funny. omg.

Gavin Noonan
1 day ago
Kind of strangely? Talk about framing it a certain way.

Chantelya Bubbles
1 day ago
Honest

Roy Maitland
2 days ago
Sponsor Truck Wash for cause.?

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dahkneelah
1 day ago
Frozen bubbles

Maraton Legendele Nemirei
1 day ago
Who is delivering the food to the supermarkets now?
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ADC20032996
2 days ago
They didn’t lie about numbers according to his own story and you should’ve called him out.

J G
2 days ago
WHERE WILL YOU GO , HELL OR HEAVEN ? There is only one God, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. One God, three parts. Humans have a soul, spirit and body. One person, three parts.
The Bible says that we are all sinners.
As it is written: There is none righteous no not one. Romans 3:10
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23
But we are all as an unclean thing and all our righteousness are as filthy rags. Isaiah 64:6
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23(the word “death” in this verse means eternal separation, from God in hell).
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow.Isaiah 1:18
Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and that He was buried and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures.1CORINTHIANS 15:3-8
In whom we have redemption through His blood, even the forgiveness of sins. Colossians 1:14
For by grace ye are saved, through faith; and not of yourselves
it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vein. Galatians 2:21
If you would like to receive Jesus as your Savior. Realize that you are a hopeless sinner and trust in Jesus and only Jesus to save you.
You can say a prayer expression your gratitude, sorrow for sins etc. but remember your prayer doesn’t save you.
Your trust in Jesus and what He did for you on the cross, is what saves you.
The moment you trust in Jesus and only Jesus, you are saved.
After people get saved they get baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
It is for believers only and has nothing to do with your salvation.
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Tanja R.
Tanja R.
1 day ago
Jon Stewart drives a truck?!

Roy Maitland
2 days ago
Any churches near by. Ring Ring Ring.
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Jean Dixon
1 day ago
Please tell the Canadian reporter to put the mic near the person speaking. Very poor audio.
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Harmony
23 hours ago
It’s too late now

Jean Dixon
23 hours ago
@Harmony For next time, that is

j delaplaya
2 days ago
Privaliged oik talks to rabble

Mirella Colalillo
2 days ago (edited)
He hauls cattles for a living, a 3 day drive…. He has no problem with exploiting the poor cattle famished, and frozen on the roads of Canada? When they reach the slaughterhouses many are dead and others can barely stand so they are hit heavily to unload them.
If we don’t protect the most vulnerable, we’ll never be a decent society.
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Charles Vincett
2 days ago
Really…go away…
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dahkneelah
1 day ago
Yeas, all in for regenerative agriculture!!!!

hoonosewut4
2 days ago
Okay, before you say most of the truckers are unvaccinated, maybe you should at least take a poll, because i think the majority ARE.

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Susie Greaves
2 days ago
I think she was talking the about the truckers on this demonstration, where by a process of self selection, most are likely to be unvaccinated. She was not talking about all the Canadian truckers.

Galahad
2 days ago (edited)
The trucker’s wife wants to visit her elderly mom in a nursing home but be unvaxxed?! Do they want traffic rules to be voluntary to follow, too?
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dahkneelah
1 day ago
It doesn’t really make a difference with omicron now does it. You could argue that with delta, but not now when oh so many vaccinated people have caught Covid.

Harmony
23 hours ago
As it’s the vaxed now spreading it, she wants to keep her mom safe

X-Morones
1 day ago
The truckers don’t really know what they are protesting anymore.

Mr. Anything
2 days ago
Who cares

Ggrik
2 days ago
Leila is a babe

 

 

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See Also

 

J-IDEA – Professor Neil Ferguson on the current 2019-nCoV coronavirus outbreak – Feb 6, 2020 — Transcript

UnHerd – Malcolm Turnbull – Don’t Count Trump Out – Jun 12, 2020 — Transcript

UnHerd – Why Lockdowns are the Wrong Policy – Swedish Expert Prof Johan Giesecke – Apr 17, 2020 — Transcript

UnHerd – Scott Atlas – I’m Disgusted and Dismayed – Oct 20, 2020 — Transcript

Ivor Cummins – Amazing Debate on Lockdown Ideology Versus Scientific Approach – Unmissable! – Oct 23, 2020 — Transcript

UnHerd – Prof Tim Spector – Hopes of a Vaccine Will Lead to More Lockdowns – Nov 11, 2020 — Transcript

 

 

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Dr. Camilla Moller: We have been really working hard on flattening the curve, that was really what we did for a long time. And with Omicron, we simply don’t need anymore to flatten the curve as much as we used to. And that’s the reason we can have these more open societies.

 

Freddie Sayers: Hello. And welcome to UnHerd, I’m Freddie Sayers.

 

So a couple of days ago, on the 26th of January, England dropped most of its Covid regulations! Facemasks are no longer legally mandated anywhere. Vaccine passports are not legally mandated anywhere – some people still use them. But they’re not legally required. And stay at home advice, i.e., the idea that you need to work from home not go into the office, has also been dropped by the government.

 

Well, we thought we were the most liberated country in Europe, but Denmark has just overtaken us! As of February the first, they will have no Covid regulations whatsoever!

 

Well, here to discuss this with us and explain why Denmark felt confident enough to make that decision is Camilla Holten Moller. Who is an infectious disease epidemiologist working at the state public health agency in Denmark.

 

She’s also the head of the Expert Group on Mathematical Modelling over there in Denmark, which is the group that produces the predictions that helps the government make their decisions as to what they should do next about Covid.

 

Camilla, welcome!

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Thank you.

 

Freddie Sayers: What is actually happening on February first? Is it true that there will be no Covid regulations whatsoever, over in Denmark?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, to a large degree, yes. That is. So so what they also decided in the government is that Covid should no longer be considered critical to public health. And that also means that the legislation is also changing. So many of these interventions can no longer be supported by legal legislation.

 

So many things will simply be ruled out. For instance, the Corona pass will go away, and also, these restrictions on closing down of nightlife and cultural institutions is also ending by the first of February.

 

Freddie Sayers: If you get Covid, and you take a test. What do you do on the second of February in Denmark?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, we still recommend people to stay in isolation, for a minimum of three days. But then we also look at whether you have symptoms. If you don’t have any symptoms, you can actually go back out of isolation after three days. If you continue to have symptoms, you should stay in isolation until you’re symptom free.

 

Freddie Sayers: And so I noticed the verb there was “recommend”. So it’s no longer a legal requirement. It’s just a suggestion?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: It’s a suggestion, yeah.

 

Freddie Sayers: And what’s interesting is that Denmark is doing this big step of dropping all of the regulations at the exact moment that case numbers are higher than they’ve ever been. In the last few days, you’ve had the highest case numbers that Denmark has ever recorded of Covid-19 in the history of this pandemic.

 

Tell us about that. Why do high case numbers not make the government panic about dropping the restrictions?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, of course, it’s caused by the Omicron variant that we also saw taking over in Denmark. It started early December. And then it actually totally replaced Delta within a month.

 

And what we also saw is now that we actually have a sub variant of the Omicron, called BA.2. Which also seems to be a little bit more infectious, but still have the same – it’s simply less severe also, compared to the first Omicron variant. And that is why we see these really high case numbers each day. But we don’t really see it in the severity, or in hospitals. So patients going to hospital – of course, a lot of people with Covid. But they’re not necessarily ill from their Covid..

 

So, it’s basically, because we have this Omicron variant that we now are confident that we can actually start opening up again.

 

Freddie Sayers: So is it fair to say that you’re no longer worried about case numbers, especially? You no longer think that’s a useful metric?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, more, or less. Of course, the case number still indicates also that you could have a wave also in hospitalizations. So what we’re especially concerned about is, of course, our risk groups – old people and people with comorbidities – that they could still have a smaller wave with Omicron as well. But we really do see very few people in intensive care unit. And those people going into hospital are there for shorter stay. So for now, it isn’t really worrying to that extent.

 

Freddie Sayers: And what you mentioned earlier, are you saying that some of those hospitalizations, or numbers that count as people with Covid in hospital, were just in hospital for something else?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Yes.

 

Freddie Sayers: And now they have you happen to have Covid, so you’re not worried about them for that reason?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, still, of course, you need to take precautions in hospitals, when you have all these people showing up at hospital and still need treatment, but also have a positive test.

 

So it’s not like, you can rule them out. You still need to take care of these patients in a certain manner. But it’s not in the same way that we saw with the Delta wave, where we actually saw people got really ill – even vaccinated patients could have severe illness – we don’t see that to the same degree with the Omicron. And that’s also the reason we have based these decisions upon.

 

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Freddie Sayers: So this is a huge moment, isn’t it? Not only for Denmark. But in the way that we understand this pandemic that has dominated all of our lives for two years.

 

Historically, for months, and months, and months, it’s been when cases rise, we know that there’s going to be a delayed, but coming, effect on hospitalizations and ultimately deaths. And that’s why all of the modelling people, such as yourself, have had this huge power, because they’ve been predicting what that relationship will be. Are we to now conclude then that this is basically the end of this pandemic?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, we have been really working hard on flattening the curve, that was really what we did for a long time. And with Omicron, we simply don’t need anymore to flatten the curve as much as we used to. And that’s the reason we can have these more open societies.

 

I definitely believe that SARS-Cov-2 will continue circulating during the summer period as well. And we also expect that in winter, we will start to see case counts going up again, simply, because we have the waning immunity of the vaccine. So the population immunity will start decreasing. We are also considering, of course, that we could end up seeing new variants that will have a play.

 

But for now, I think with the Omicron, we’re in a good place. And we definitely think that after we have peaked, which we also consider that we will be peaking in a short time, we expect the springtime and summertime will be pretty quiet, I think.

 

Freddie Sayers: I mean, you talk about the potential for new variants. Something that’s been said a lot is that the normal progress of a virus like this is to become more transmissible, but milder, because ultimately, that’s good for the virus in some way. That seems to be what’s happened with Covid-19. Does that not mean though, that it’s less likely that suddenly the next variant will be much more severe?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: I don’t think we can say that. I think it’s too soon, really. And of course, what we observed with the Delta variant was that it was actually both more transmissible and more severe. And it’s really kind of a lottery with these mutations. So I don’t think we can say with any certainty that it will be a less severe variant the next time. At least, I’m not confident in that.

 

But of course, what we do see now is that the immunity, the population immunity, is really high right now, both from vaccines, and hybrid vaccine, and recovered infections. So we’re in a different place, I think, with the Omicron that actually boosted our immunity, population immunity. And that’s a good thing from my chair.

 

Freddie Sayers: Because this is another really important question that you’ve just come upon, which is this whole idea of natural immunity. Previously, that was very controversial, because it was considered dangerous to either allow people to be exposed, or deliberately encourage people to be exposed, because they could get very sick.

 

If Omicron is as mild as it appears to be, is there some argument for actually saying, it’s a good time to be exposed to Covid-19?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well. You can also always argue whether that’s a good idea, or not. You never can foresee who is actually ending up with severe illness. So it’s a bit of a chance, I would say to do that. I wouldn’t advise people to get exposed deliberately. I still think that it’s part of the reason that we are actually opening our society now and annulling all of these restrictions is that we can see that it probably will still have good protection from the vaccines and that we can see that people get less severe illness in case you get infected.

 

So we’re not that worried anymore of people getting infected. But I wouldn’t say it’s part of our strategy to have people infected.

 

Freddie Sayers: But, it’s okay to observe that immunity from infection is powerful, at least as powerful, can we say as immunity from vaccination? What’s your professional view on that?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: You need to discuss that with an expert in looking into immunity. I think you could say that you have some protection from the Omicron. But how does it protect against former variants and new variants? That is the question. Just as we know that the vaccines don’t actually cover all variants equally, well, we will probably see the same that different variants that we had during the past will also protect against new variants in different terms.

 

So one person that had the Delta variant might be more protected against an upcoming new variant than if you have had Omicron. We don’t know that, simply.

 

Freddie Sayers: If you compare some of the continental European countries with a country like the United Kingdom, the UK opened up earlier, back in July. And there was a higher level of infection. And some people observed that we were less badly hit in the winter than some of those European countries, and suggest that might be partly why. Do you think that’s a reasonable way to think?

 

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Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, I think it definitely is something you need to consider. Simply the state of the population, or the “population immunity”, as we call it. How well is it built up? And what does it mean for next waves? In Denmark, we saw that the immunity is primarily by vaccination. We actually have had very low prevalences in Denmark. We didn’t have that large wave. And probably that is also why the Omicron have an advantage right now is simply, because it’s an immune evasive variant.

 

So in other countries where you used to have high waves, or high peaks of other variants, you might do better, or see less Omicron, simply because it doesn’t have an advantage as it does in high vaccinated countries like Denmark.

 

So definitely there are something about the population immunity and to what extent there’s population immunity from vaccines and recovering waves.

 

Freddie Sayers: What’s going on in terms of Denmark versus Sweden? Because this is something we’ve paid quite a lot of attention to – I’m partly Swedish. Earlier on in the pandemic, Denmark was very stringent. They were one of the first countries to close their borders. Even, they closed the border with Sweden controversially, while Sweden had a much more liberal attitude. And now it seems to have swapped around to some extent. Sweden is now discovering lockdown style measures, although not a full lockdown, but limits on parties and curfews, and those kinds of things, whilst Denmark is opening up. Have they swapped? What’s going on there do you think?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well not deliberately, I think. But what we do see in Denmark is we try to do precision epidemiology, so to say. So we try to really have good information. We’ve been testing quite a lot during the epidemic, and doing a lot of sequencing and variant detection. And a lot more than Sweden have done. And it’s always difficult to compare countries. But I think in the current situation, we might just be a little bit ahead of Sweden simply, because we’re looking at it in a different manner, so to say. We have these detailed information on the BA.2 variant, which is difficult if you don’t have a large testing system, or variant detection.

 

Freddie Sayers: Do you think we’re able to say which country of those two had a better policy, looking back on the last year and a half?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: I think that’s really difficult to judge! And historically, we’ll have to sit down and take a look into how did we handle this differently. And what was actually working well, and worked less well, or where did we overdo something. So there will be definitely a need to evaluate the strategies that we chose and how it actually went on from that, and looking at mortality, etc.

 

Freddie Sayers: Very diplomatic answer, if I may. Say.

 

So so let’s talk about politics for one minute, because your country, as far as I understand, all of the political parties support this opening up. Is that true?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Yes, that’s correct. Which is an unrecognisable world from here in the UK, or I think the United States, or many, many countries where it’s become such a political argument. And if the government says one thing, the opposition says the opposite thing. How did it come about that everybody agrees now, even though these cases are going through the roof, that it’s time to call an end to restrictions? What’s different about Denmark?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, I think there’s first of all, high trust to health authorities, and also for the epidemic commission, who is actually advising the government, and advising our politicians in Denmark, has a high trust. I think that it’s the correct, so to say, that they trust that these are the correct solutions. And this was actually by the Epidemic Commission that proposed that these restrictions were lifted. And the whole government and all of the politicians actually agreed to that. So yeah, in general. I think it’s related to high trust in health authorities.

 

Freddie Sayers: Let’s talk about your specific work here. Because a big part of the evidence for the government being able to release those restrictions was your reporting – you’re in charge of the mathematical modelling group.

 

And just before Christmas, you produced a report that looked at what the effect of the Omicron wave might be over in Denmark. And I think it’s worth actually spending a little time on the specific conclusions you reached, because they’re quite different to what the modelling groups concluded here in the UK.

 

 

So I think we’ve got a chart that we can put up on the screen of your predictions versus what actually happened. So first, there’s the question of cases – how many cases there would be.

 

So talk us through what we’re looking at here?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Yeah, so just before Christmas, we did this model, where we try to look at Omicron and Delta and how would the case counts develop until March, if we projected the epidemic, so to say.

 

Here, the black dots are the case counts and the grey bars are the total case count here, projected total case counts. And then you see in orange, the Delta, actually being totally replaced.

 

The red dot is simply, because we didn’t have a full case count from that day. But what you see here is that we’re actually hitting the roof of our projections here, and quite within, so to say, the span of the projected case counts. So the predictions turned out to be pretty well.

 

But we also see that something was growing a bit more than we actually anticipated. And that’s because we had the BA.2 taking over in week two. So underneath. You also see sort of two strains growing at the same time.

 

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Freddie Sayers: Let’s look at the next one, which is similar, but shows hospitalisation. So these are new people being put into hospital with Covid each day.

 

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Yes. So these new to hospital is similarly also, we projected that we would have a peak here in the beginning of February. Simply, because you have kind of a delay from the case count peaking until you see the peak in hospitalisations. So what we see here is also that we are well within the projected span.

 

Actually, now we do expect that the peak might be postponed a little bit, because of the BA.2 having a little bit more growth than the BA.1. So it might be actually that we expecting to peak a little bit later, and maybe a little bit higher. But but we’re well within the span.

 

Freddie Sayers: I mean, we are not used to seeing this kind of thing over here in the UK. This looks like a pretty accurate model. The dots are mainly within the cone! [chuckling] This is what should happen, right, with a mathematical model? Both of the things you’ve shown us where the actual data falls roughly in the range that you expected it to. So I’m guessing you’re feeling quite pleased with your modelling?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, yes, definitely. I think we have fulfilled our task, which is to inform our decision makers of what to expect what to come.

 

Freddie Sayers: So the million dollar question is, how could it be that prior to Christmas, and in the early part of January, you remained confident that there wouldn’t be a huge dangerous surge in hospitalisations and deaths, that required very draconian lockdowns, whilst other modelling groups, such as some of the groups here in the UK that were advising our government, came to a different conclusion? What’s your understanding of that difference?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: I should say that it is really a difficult task. But also early in December, we also had some models where we actually projected those higher peaks in hospitalisations, which was mainly owed to the many uncertainties of the Omicron. At first, we simply didn’t know how severe that variant could be. But as soon as we had new data, we have put that into our models and informed the models. And that’s why we came up with this model that you just saw showed on the screen.

 

So knowledge is key, and really to follow this really closely. And that is, yeah, coming back to the detailed data we have in Denmark, that’s really what we owe it to.

 

Freddie Sayers: So I’m going to put another chart on the screen, if I may, which is one of the most famous modelling groups here in the UK, which, … Well there were two, there was one from Warwick University, one from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. They both came up with similar kind of conclusions. But I think this is the Warwick chart we have. And you’ll be able to see the difference between what was projected and what has actually happened.

 

 

So, [chuckling] it’s kind of a different story. This was, and I should say, this is actually with a severity of 50% of Delta. They also produced one with 100% of Delta, which was even more extreme.

 

And what’s happened in reality is just so far beneath what they were expecting. Do you have any insight into the technicality of that?

 

 

Because I looked in detail at your report here, which is your model. And. It seems to me that you were also factoring 50% of severity of Delta as the sort of mid-case scenario, which was the same as those UK groups. So, how could it be that your results were so different?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: It actually depends on what type of model you have here. And I don’t know the details of the Warwick model, but the type of model, whether it’s a population model, or an agent based model, but also the detail of the information that you put in.

 

We also have big issues related to the vaccine effectiveness for the Omicron, and also transmissibility when you are infected. Those are other parameters that are equally important to have a correct model estimate. And what we did in our model was simply to sample within a span saying that this is what we’re looking at that could be most feasible for the Omicron variant. So some of these – looking at these projections, what we know today is that it’s probably even less than 50%, maybe it’s 20% less severe the Omicron variant. But it could be some of the other parameters that you use in a model that are simply not correct, or didn’t get spot on.

 

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Freddie Sayers: Do you think it’s fair to be worried that there is a kind of bias towards negativity in making these models?

 

For example, if we take this question of severity, in those days before Christmas, there was a lot of discussion of how confident we could be that Omicron was less severe than Delta. And to most common sense observers, the real world data we got from South Africa, made that pretty clear! Because had it been as severe as Delta, they would be having overflowing hospitals, and they weren’t.

 

And yet, there were these incredibly sophisticated reasons given why we couldn’t be certain, that it could still technically just be to do with differences in age profile, or prior immunity, or whatever, from South Africa.

 

So that data set was kind of ignored. And Professor Neil Ferguson produced a report at Imperial, on the 17th of December, I think, the same day that your model came out, saying that there is no evidence, no firm evidence, that Omicron is less severe than Delta.

 

And so that was the presumption that went into advising the government. And I suppose similar things with those other variables you talk about, with vaccine effectiveness. And those kinds of things.

 

Do you feel like it’s possible that in Denmark, when you’re doing these models, you’re looking at a kind of central scenario and just trying to estimate, whilst in some other countries, perhaps including England, we are training our modellers to be erring on the side of caution?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, of course, that’s a difficult question to answer. I would say that we also did this, the same approach, simply modelling different scenarios, also the severe scenario and the less severe scenario. So that would be a typical model approach, that you need to actually showcase your uncertainties. Because that’s truly, really important to the decision makers, that it could be A, but it could also B.

 

And then of course, you need to narrow in as soon as you have the information, you would need to reproduce your models and see now that we’re more certain. We can see that it’s actually going this direction.

 

So in the beginning, when we did our models, we also had a lot of uncertainty on the estimates. And we had been trying to narrow it down as fast as we could with the information we thought we had.

 

Freddie Sayers: So you haven’t been looking at other countries’ models and analysing why they were so different? You don’t have a theory as to what variable it was they chose wrong?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: No, not exactly. I can’t pinpoint that. And it is really a lot of work to get into other models. It’s not just a quick look you can do that. You’d really need to spend some time and understand the parameters you had chosen to put in your models to say why they’re so different.

 

What you also see sometimes is that you use a panel of models to inform your decision makers, because it can be quite different from the choice of model that you have, and the details in the model you have.

 

Freddie Sayers: One more question on this, because I’ve done some back of the envelope calculations here. Actually, if your numbers – Denmark is a population of 5.8 million – you were forecasting 25,000 to 55,000, roughly, cases as a peak. And 150 to 360 hospitalisations per day, as a peak. And as we’ve just seen roughly that is what happened.

 

 

England is almost exactly 10 times the size of Denmark, 56 million, as opposed to 5.8 million. And had our modellers been like you and forecasts 250 to 550 cases a day, and 1,500 to 3,000 hospitalizations a day, they would also have been roughly correct. We had slightly under that, our peak it looks like was 205,000 cases and hospitalizations, 2,300. So your model times 10, was a pretty good forecast of what happened in England!

 

What we got from Sage, the government committee, was actually 600,000 to two million cases a day, as the maximum. And 3,000 to 10,000 hospitalizations a day, which is five times plus what actually happened.

 

I know that you can’t be responsible for anyone else’s modelling. But I just want to ask one more time. Can you understand how groups in other universities came up with such wildly different numbers? And it leads people to feel conspiratorial, feel distrusting of the whole process of mathematical modelling, that different groups of experts can come up with such divergent things! What should we think about that difference, to try and understand it?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: I know that uncertainty and insecurity intervals that you have in these models, they’re really a difficult thing to communicate. We also had some issues to even communicate the span in our models. Because that’s also equally a wide span. And it is actually quite difficult to communicate, because when you do handle an epidemic, you want to be quite certain. And you can’t always have these certainties in models.

 

So basically, it comes back to what can you use a model for? And how do you interpret these uncertainties, into how to handle the epidemic? So there can be a number of reasons why they actually projected this, and why the span was so large. I think we saw it in other models trying to estimate, or project the Omicron wave, we also saw it in some of the Norwegian models that also had a quite a large span. And as I just said before, we also saw that in the Danish models in the beginning, where we have a lot of uncertainties.

 

But it is really a continuous work to inform your models and try to understand what is going on exactly in your country.

 

For instance, in our models, we have put in some assumptions about people also changing their behaviour underneath. So when cases go up, you actually see a population behaviour change. And that has been one of the key figures in our model, that we actually can see that people change behaviour, whenever cases go up. So that’s actually putting a lid on the top of our model, so to say.

 

Freddie Sayers: That’s very interesting. Because that’s explicitly something that the models that fed into the British government were not asked to consider.

 

So I’ve read within the Warwick model, for example, they say it is beyond the scope of this model to estimate endogenous, or natural behaviour changes that aren’t mandated. That’s a pretty significant difference! It could explain most of the difference even, couldn’t it?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, at least we saw, it was really important in Denmark. And we have been working quite a lot with our models for the last two years, and seeing that it was really an important thing to put in the model, these behaviour changes.

 

The other thing is about susceptible depletion, simply having no people anymore being susceptible of being infected. So you can have small groups, for instance, age groups, or specific geographical areas, where you start to see that there’s simply no longer any people susceptible to the infection. And then it starts to burn out more, or less. And that is also related to how you build up your model, if you actually can detect these susceptible depletions.

 

So there can be some small details in each model that actually defines whether you have these peak shaving, as we call it.

 

Freddie Sayers: Because that, what you’ve just mentioned, is another thing that has been so talked about, and so important in the last two years. Which is when a new wave is just getting going and everyone is talking about the doubling rate, it’s going to double every two days, or double every one day, or three days. And everyone then just extrapolates that for as long as they need until it gets into the millions. And everyone gets very frightened.

 

And then what seems to happen in the real world is that pace of exponential growth doesn’t last. And we get to a slowing down for other reasons, that are not to do with government intervention. Is that fair? Do you observe that, is that what you mean by this susceptible depletion?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: It’s more, or less, what I mean. Well, the susceptible depletion is, for instance, if you had a really high peak in schoolchildren, at some point, you wouldn’t have any more pupils that you could have infected, simply because the reproduction number in that specific group would be below one. So there wouldn’t be enough people to infect to actually keep it going in that group.

 

And that means that you would take out some of the growth of the epidemic. That’s what we call “susceptible depletion”. And you can have that in the whole population. You can also have it in areas, or small pockets of your population.

 

And the other thing is that behavioural changes. And that’s sort of a different matter. That is more so whenever you see, for instance, in Denmark, we had the municipalities sending links out on Facebook, or in your social media feeds. So now, case counts are really high in your area, it could be in your Parish, or in your municipality. And we would need to do something if case counts don’t go down.

 

So people would try to actually go and have a test, or they would actually annul a party, cancel a party, or do something differently than what they had actually planned. That we actually saw, that people try to change their behaviour simply to have the case count going down in that area.

 

Freddie Sayers: In other words, it doesn’t need to be a law.

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: No.

 

Freddie Sayers: People actually have common sense. And they have a brain. And they can observe what’s happening and adjust their behaviour anyway.

 

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Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, they do to some extent. And, of course, that also has a limitation. I mean, to some extent, you don’t really regulate yourself that much. You still need to go to work, you still need to send your children to school. So it also has a limitation of course. But we did see that it is a factor that actually plays a role.

 

And that is also to a high degree what you saw in Sweden. So even though we didn’t have the government mandating lockdowns, you actually saw that people would actually change the behaviour accordingly. So when you do try to measure the restriction level, it was kind of similar actually in Sweden, because people simply self regulated their behaviour.

 

Freddie Sayers: Are you worried about the role that your discipline and expertise has had in this pandemic? It’s become very controversial. At least here in the UK. Lots of people are happy to bash the modellers, because they always seem to be getting everything wrong. And there’s this presumption that they are fear mongers, or they’re trying to always look to the worst case scenario. How does your discipline emerge from this period, do you think? Is it’s reputation damaged?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: I know that there has been quite an, so to say, an issue that you really need to communicate these spans and uncertainties. But I still think that mathematical modelling has a place in how we inform our decision makers to know what’s lying ahead.

 

Freddie Sayers: When you’re building that model, when you’re instructing your team, and you’re sitting there, and there’s big pressure because the health of the nation depends on it. Do you feel pressure to err on the side of caution, ever? When you’re choosing what presumptions to make, or what inputs to put, or ranges, do you feel the sense that it might be safer to presume the worst? Or have you never felt that?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: No. [chuckling] We don’t do it like that! It’s really a large team and we try to use all our best knowledge in epidemiology, our best knowledge of vaccine effectiveness, all the estimates that we need to put in the model, we always strive to be updated, and to have the newest figures and newest information to inform our models.

 

So it is really a huge job to update these models and make sure that we understand what is going on in the model and that we can actually have the correct parameters in it.

 

And that is a quite a big task to keep up to speed all the time. And especially when you change variants all the time. And you don’t have that information, you need to choose really carefully, …

 

Freddie Sayers: So you block out any sense of whether it might be politically more welcome to veer one way, or the other. And you just try to make the best estimate?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Yeah. So in Denmark, we are a small country. So we don’t have that many model groups as you do in UK. But it is actually a combination of experts from different universities that are sitting together and doing these models. And it’s completely an external expert group. We only have a few modellers that are actually situated in the Statens Serum Institut. So they are detached from the political situation.

 

So they sit and simply do these models the same as you do in UK, basically. But they’re not really affected by the political level. So we always strive to use the information we have in hand.

 

Freddie Sayers: Camilla, what do we need to persuade you to come over here to the UK? Because there may be some vacancies in the modelling community coming up, I believe?

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: Well, [chuckling] I think the modelling community need to get together and look into each other’s successes and failures. We also have failures. I guess we can share the knowledge and build a stronger model community, ahead.

 

Freddie Sayers: Dr. Camilla Holten Moller, thank you so much for talking to us.

 

Dr. Camilla Moller: You’re welcome.

 

Freddie Sayers: That was Dr. Camilla Holten Moller from the Danish Public Health Institute. She is in charge of the mathematical modelling for Covid over in Denmark.

 

And it is on her advice that the Danish government has decided to do a bonfire of the Covid restrictions and reopen society from the first of February!

 

Interesting there to meet one of these modellers. There’s a lot of talk about how flawed, or complex mathematical models related to Covid have been. She seems like a very common sense and intelligent person. And sometimes I was wishing that maybe she would come over here to the UK and replace some of the Sage modellers that have made our lives so complicated for the past year and a half.

 

Thank you to her, and thanks for tuning in! This was UnHerd.

 

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UnHerd
3 days ago
Has Denmark made the right call by dumping all its covid restrictions?
If you found this video interesting, please do suggest other topics we should investigate in the comments below and don’t forget to subscribe, like and share this video – it helps other people find it!
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Raireva
3 days ago
Compare other coronaviruses dynamics in relationship to CoV2…also the corresponding fluctuation of immunity over the seasons
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Gary RunForSteFun
3 days ago
Yes
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David Tomkinson
3 days ago
Indeed!
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Tan Tan
3 days ago
Yes
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chechay nidup
3 days ago
out of topic- has anyone ever told you that you look/handsome version of Prince William?
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WitSystem
3 days ago
Absolutely- now we must deal with the far greater burgeoning problem of a myocarditis, cancer and blood clot epidemic.
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CARPO719
3 days ago
Yes they have absolutely done the right thing, knowing that Omicron is dominant, the vaccines don’t completely block it, and how contagious it is we will all get it. time to get back to our lives
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Red Baron
3 days ago (edited)
Unfortunately my comments are getting erased. Don‘t know why though because I have made a topic suggestion which is about Technocracy and Techno Feudalism (as coined by Yanis Varoufakis). Not sure what is triggering youtube but this kind of algorithm censorship is also a good topic.
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apan gurra
3 days ago
Yes! Well done!
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Madelaine Morch
3 days ago
There is severe illness from the vaccine as well!
Denmark has a very high level of vaccinated, the ever highest level of cases and the excess mortality significant highest in 2021.
Natural immunity is the key to stop this circus in my opinion and I don’t understand why Denmark chose the risk to vaccinate the children.
I am though very happy that they choose to stop all covid laws because many countries still have Denmark as role model and hopefully this will make the example trustful to copy the sooner the better!
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Megan McConaghy
3 days ago
Yes absolutely I believe they have made the right call! Now lets focus on strengthening people’s physical and mental health with encouraging healthy foods, exercise, and most importantly, allowing personal freedom and choice
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Deborah Hebblethwaite
3 days ago
Yes. Canada should follow suit
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Marleen Codougan
3 days ago
Yes, it has made the right choices.
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Luann Rouff
3 days ago
Of course. The plandemic would have been over a long time ago had it been able to move through the population. That’s what the immune system is for. If it isn’t up to the task, then fix that. Don’t expect any government agency to protect you. They’re all compromised, with a revolving door to industry.
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Christian e.g.
3 days ago
YES!!! Denkark is leading the way out of this manmade debacle! But dropping all the draconian measures is not enough! Those responsible for perpetrating this whole scam upon the world need to be held accountable in a Nuremberg 2.0 trial! Starting with Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates and the virus’ creator Anthony Fauci! And we need to revisit the publicly hang the perpetrators just as we hung their predecessors in the first Nuremberg trial
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H H
3 days ago
Denmark has made the right call. The government is deadlier than ANY virus
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Bea Klu
3 days ago
What next? „You own nothing and you Happy”.
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Bea Klu
3 days ago
WHO New Constitution coming new rules for all countries, more control over health.
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Christian e.g.
3 days ago
@Bea Klu there are more of us than there are of klaus schwab’s minions. If his impish minions start returning to him with their property-confiscation orders stuffed sideways up their anal cavities, klaus schwab might think twice about confiscating the world’s personal property
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KLRJUNE
3 days ago
I’ve often heard Denmark is the most medicated country in the world (antidepressants). I have no idea if it is true but someone started saying that for a reason.
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N Sudatta-Roy
3 days ago
@CARPO719 Vacks are completely ineffective against omicron. It would be interesting to learn what the percent of difference between this and delta.
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Corina
3 days ago
Your interviews are always brilliant Freddy. Thank you. I’m interested to know when I can visit family in the USA without proof of vaccine.
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Chee Yong Pek
3 days ago
how about a topic on what could be done to facilitate the change that we hope to see? perhaps to fight the misinformation put out in the MSM.
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Drew Dam
3 days ago
Yes.
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Karen Barry
3 days ago
As Jonny cash says. You have to know when to fold them know when to hold them know when to walk away know when to run !
It’s time to run again and get back to our lives and change our horrible policies n stop polluting our world with filthy masks n over use of testing kits !
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Gypsy Anna
3 days ago
@Karen Barry LOL! Hahaha. You meant Kenny Rogers. That was not a song by Johnny Cash.
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donepearce
3 days ago
Yes, this is the correct response. Vaccination has done its job keeping people alive during the early, intense form of the disease. Now Covid is dropping into the background as just another virus we have to live with – it is not going away. Of course, if in the future a more virulent strain emerges, restrictions can always be re-applied.
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ann harding
3 days ago
This is correct information. One has to work hard to find it!! That is corruption.
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Toto
3 days ago
We have enough data to conclude mRNA technology is not viable. Keep on financing it and more importantly keeping alive the very heavy logistics chain it requires makes no sense at all. Some countries like France and the US or Canada because they have woke government still hope (or pretend to hope) the HIV vaccine will be here in 2023 (Moderna said so) and they want to keep on pouring money in the logistics chain. But it makes no economical sense
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donepearce
3 days ago
@Toto Restrictions have certainly had an effect. With isolation and masks I have not had a single illness – even a cold – for two years. I quite like that, and I intend to continue wearing a mask in enclosed public spaces. I don’t need instructions from a government to make sensible decisions.
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James Smith
3 days ago
Stop chasing echo chambers! There are plenty of unheard people who disagree with your core audience. Try challenging yourself and them. The closest you got to that recently was the Israeli doctor. How about engaging with someone with an opinion on China different to the Global North like Daniel Dumbrill or Carl Zha or countless others? Otherwise, you’re just another edgy YouTube channel inviting the same traveling circus that all the other edgy channels do.
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Drew Dam
3 days ago
Excellent review, thank you and thank you Camilla.
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Drew Dam
3 days ago
@Karen Barry yes, exactly. I like your quotes, too. Have you, by chance, read the disclaimers on the packaging for the ‘masks’, where it says that the masks allow particles to pass through the things!
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Drew Dam
3 days ago (edited)
@donepearce 17,371 is the number of deaths in the UK from Covid-19 since the ‘pandemic’ began. And, you ‘believe’ that the vaccines have saved a lot of lives? If you would like to have the source for this information, please ask…
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donepearce
3 days ago
@Drew Dam I understand neither your “data” nor your point

Drew Dam
3 days ago
Yes, I do have a very specific topic, current and very much in vogue, that I would like to pass onto you via a secure link. It is more than controversial so how can we communicate?
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Revolution Underground
3 days ago
All covid restrictions are out of date anyway
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donepearce
3 days ago
@Drew Dam I’m really not interested. But thank you

BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
Look into the killing off the worlds best mink production – illegally – costing every dane ca 500 dollars + los of export and taxes for years – maybe for ever.. And Mette Frederiksen’s lies and deleting sms’s “so” the Mink comission can’t read her comunication in the days, where they were deciding to do it.. And the cops calling the mink owners and pushing them haard to kill their mink, before it had been legaized..
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
@Red Baron Happens for me too – vree speeech my ace..

Drew Dam
3 days ago
@Revolution Underground Quite so, from day one! Sadly, it didn’t stop the economies of the world from crashing with overspending on needless pharmaceutical resources. Those over-educated, over-paid doctors struck yet again…
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Drew Dam
3 days ago
@BØRGE ODK With the current bout of disinformation regarding Earth ‘changes’, there is going to be a great deal more culls of worthwhile livestock, and minks are truly undervalued considering the coming ‘changes’…
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Drew Dam
3 days ago
@donepearce if you are so disinterested, why did you bother to comment? Fear of the truth has shyed you away…
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Toto
3 days ago
@donepearce as a result your immune system is probably weaker. Your choice.
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donepearce
3 days ago
@Drew Dam I comment on what I want, and I need no gratuitous judgement from you. Kindly fuck off. Oh, and look up the meaning of disinterested; you got the wrong word.

A#123
3 days ago
Heard that the government are quietly planning on changing the human rights policy?? Good you look into that?

BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
@Drew Dam Unless enough stop going full Stockholm syndrome”..

Drew Dam
3 days ago
@A#123 Oh, yes. No human rights is on the way. Earth’s catastrophe cycle in an over populated world, with no food, means hard times ahead. Who needs human rights, thinks the Governments of the world?
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Madasin Paine
3 days ago
@Red Baron avoid urls except for YouTube’s.
Cite references the old fashioned way, but even then, on channels under duress by the censoring algorithm and turned up higher, even citing names of other media, like one of the big three US newspapers can get automatic or instant deletion of the comment.
Apparently typing out too many trigger words or phrases amy get instant deletion.
Try breaking up your comment and avoid trending vocabulary, especially proper nouns and meme words, particularly if any of this makes the US Chamber of Commerce or Gov or oligarchs look bad or phrasing qualifies the overly vague broad seemingly arbitrary and capricious Y T violation rules or more accurately highly tilted “guidelines”.
But what do I know‽
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Drew Dam
3 days ago (edited)
@A#123 I apologise, very few people have awareness of the Earth’s catastrophe cycle so it is a little unfair of me to spring it on an unsuspecting person. It is the sort of subject, along with pre-deluvian civilisations, that should have been taught to us when we were children at school. Instead, academia prefered that we remain dumb, so they could earn money by selling us false details in their ‘history’ books and they decided to conceal our real history. If you require more information, please ask…
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Madasin Paine
3 days ago
@Christian e.g.
Pop quiz. If typically a viral pandemic pitters out within 3 years, we should see what’s happening in Denmark London or South Africa or most elsewhere, regardless if the overbearing science lacking protocols of the wealthy West were employed or not.
Billions of humans will not be “fully vaccinated” and yet cases per hundred thousand are amongst the highest in places like Denmark London or many other extremely wealthy metropolitan corridors of the heavily inoculated Ivy like league anchored cities in blue states.
Let’s see which major or popular media or social media channel is the first to repeatedly hammer that answer home breathlessly over and over day after day, first thing out of their mouth
Don’t hold your breath.
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Madasin Paine
3 days ago (edited)
@KLRJUNE
About 9 million relatively speaking extremely well cared for people on a big sparsely populated isolated northern country, island qualities, nit entirely mind you, and they are well educated, have excellent services, tech penetration, communication, relatively homogeneous, and most importantly they have more control over and faith in their government.
If you want to die with CV, be very old, obese, have syndrome X, live in the southern US, be poor, in a crowded poor community, and or live as such in NYC estranged and isolated from “loved ones” and get forced into a nursing home full of similarly vulnerable victims.
Now compare that to how children old folks and fools are handled in Denmark.
Something is rotten in the U$.
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Edgar Karam
3 days ago
I have a question in regards to comparing the severity of covid variants. The question, which I feel should be obvious, is “how can anyone seriously compare effects of variants on a shifting population sample?”. I believe that the hyper vulnerable percentage of the population have been significantly reduced by previous variants. We are now looking at a different population sample and comparing the effects of new variants unfairly.
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Russell Brown
3 days ago
Sweden had it correctly judged and so did the the good doctor that was lampooned very early into the plandemic whose message about virology and immunology has been proven to be correct all along (I’m sure I would butcher the good doctor’s name). The “narrative” had people to ignore him because his expertise was in veterinary medicine. What about the US Naval vessel whose crew was 100% vaccinated, yet suffered a COVID outbreak. There are many other examples of this and contradicts what Dr. Holten-Moller claims about Denmark’s vaccine effectiveness. “Our response to the virus has caused more death and misery than the virus” – Jordan Petersen. “The Omicron variant is the vaccine we never made” – Dr. Machacha, Ugandan doctor.
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Shakti Kumar Kurup
3 days ago
Investigate Canadian Freedom Convoy and their MSM media. There are lots of misinformation coming out of there
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Drew Dam
3 days ago
@Edgar Karam If only the Governments of the day thought as sinscintly as you do, then the whole pharmaceutical mess that they have created may have been a lot less complex. Only 17,371 deaths occured in the UK as a direct result of Corvid-19 (source provided upon request), not exactly close to the 137,133 number quoted by the NHS. The real ‘problem’ is elsewhere, but I like the construction of you query.
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BG
3 days ago
Document everything you get… And make the ultimate truth documentary so the responsibles are truly held responsible for this nightmare of humanity. The periode we are living in is a disgrace for humanity.
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Doctors’ Bury Their Mistakes
3 days ago
Freddie what a great interview mate, such a big eye-opener. Sadly from the very beginning Australia clumsily got all the Covid 19 modelling wrong, so called “experts” with big egos, seem to be agenda driven by control freak, dictatorial politicians. Their police attacking good people, knocking them to the ground, putting them in gaol with massive $$$fines. Police barging into homes, loud police helicopters hovering around 24/7 like a war zone, politicians encouraging violence against the citizens. Australian universities have become corrupt, pay to play universities for millions of questionable? Chinese and Indian students, they all pass regardless and get citizenship?? Fair dinkum Aussies should be sending their children to a University in Denmark, the universities in Australia are bad, the degrees are worthless, almost a joke.
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Madasin Paine
3 days ago
@Doctors’ Bury Their Mistakes
It must be a tremendous wake up call and a demoralizing engaging one at that, especially those that initially were gung ho law and order oriented.
Do you feel like you have a lot of company amongst peers or on the “fringe”.
Its very troubling to me to take in your countries increasingly dire authoritarian turns of event. But I believe the roots and seeds are not so new foe this happening.
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Shan Rafnezden
3 days ago
YES!!!

Madasin Paine
3 days ago
Hold the course and stay on it. People will be astounded when they find decent work in the media to view. They’ll always be critics who take pop shots mostly through logical fallacies and ad hominem attacks —don’t let them get you down because you’ll never please everybody.
Be patient but persistent and not too greedy and your audience will eventually find you.
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Kylie Jones
3 days ago
Yes!!
Great interview.

Kylie Jones
3 days ago
@Owlish Art ok, whatever.

American Exile
3 days ago
Yes. The right call.

Corrina
3 days ago
@chechay nidup I’d save he looks related to Henry Cavill :]
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Corrina
3 days ago
Yes, Cyprus needs to do the same – they rely heavily on tourism, and nobody will want to go on holiday to a place with unnecessarily strict measures !

chechay nidup
3 days ago
@Corrina Ah..Yes, I see the resemblence:)

so dumb that i think for myself
2 days ago
this pandemic has been nothing but political one, this was clear after about 3 months had passed, n first lockdowns obviously made no much difference to “cases” yet affected esp young ppl’s mental health a lot, started to kill businesses, jobs etc. but i assume that restrictions will come back, either soon with next “variant” or with next “pandemic”. the pushers of this bs won’t give up so easily, esp now that moderna got fully authorized.
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Simon Brownbridge
2 days ago
@Madasin Paine Now you are getting closer to the truth of how ill health and sickness works. Additionally, where have the lockdowns created the most social pain? In poor confined lower class communities, more vulnerable to overcrowding, social and family difficulties, less access to services….and certainly not able to have organic food box deliveries, access to exercise, spending freely on Amazon , working from home and so on.
I am disgusted by the smugness and self righteousness of the wealthier members of my community who are vaxxed up to the eyeballs and shuffling around in muzzles. Their concern is only to self safety. They should coughup a tithe to help those who have suffered loss these past 2 years, starting with the po.itical and public servant classes.
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nadogrl
2 days ago
Absolutely!

John Buchman
2 days ago
@WitSystem Also autoimmune and neurological disorders as well as strokes…
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John Buchman
2 days ago
@Christian e.g. I completely agree!
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John Buchman
2 days ago
@Bea Klu That will be the circumstances of those found guilty of Crimes Against Humanity in the upcoming Nuremberg Code of 1947 trials.

John Buchman
2 days ago
@donepearce The early treatments which were suppressed by the governments and big pharma (e.g., FLCCC) always were more effective and safer than the Experimental Gene Therapy shots!
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donepearce
2 days ago
@John Buchman will every conspiracy theorist just leave me alone? I have no interest in your paranoia

Barbara Osimani
2 days ago
Could you please post the link to the study? I searched around in the SSI website, but I am not sure about which is exaxtly the one that Dr. Holten-Møller is talking about. I would need this for a Letter we are writing to the Italian Ministry of Research and other policy makers in Italy.

Rich Thompson
2 days ago
I would love to hear an unbiased investigation into the Canadian truckers story. There appears to be a media push to smear the protestors as simultaneously swastika bearing, while also opposing what they perceive to be fascist policies, which is a bizarre angle and like Christians protesting against Christmas!! Whether mandatory vaccination is justifiable for Omicron is clearly a perfectly reasonable debate to be had. The fact that many journalists are keen to just focus their reporting on a handful of bad actors in this protest and not state the views
of the peaceful majority in good faith, is a concerning trend that has been seen in Europe and Australia too. Clearly, the situation is not akin to the worse moments of authoritarianism but the passive normalization of state coercion, scapegoating, segregation, surveillance and suppression are not things that those educated and believe in liberal democracy should blindly ignore.
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donepearce
2 days ago
@Rich Thompson An unbiased investigation? How would that work. Everybody has an opinion. The moment you decide to talk to this person before that person you have thrown in a bias. The cameraman who chooses exactly where to point his camera has already edited the picture in line with his views
. Bias is unavoidable.
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Rich Thompson
2 days ago
@donepearce I completely agree that an element of bias is unavoidable and we are all human. I do trust good journalists like Freddie to ask the right questions and represent the key issues in a more balanced and nuanced manner than others. That is why we love Unherd, we are tired of biased soundbites, we like people who take the care to delve into an issue responsibly, so we can make an informed opinion.
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P Mustart
2 days ago
Thank you for this brilliant discussion by both interviewer and interviewee.
As a south African I am aghast that the UK and some other countries did not take seriously the early evidence of low omicron severity that we shouted out to the rest of the world
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donepearce
2 days ago
@Rich Thompson When I see someone describe a journalist as unbiased I translate that internally as meaning they broadly agree with that person’s viewpoint, but are not too blatant about it.

Rich Thompson
2 days ago
@donepearce I see where you are coming from. I do value the Unherd style of long form good faith journalism with some tough questioning too. I feel this a better method to get to the facts and make an informed opinion vs the sensationalist opinionated journalism that likes to polarize with one side of the story for clicks and comments. We are all prone to biases of course but I try to hear from a variety of sources to escape the echo chamber, as much as possible.
I have repeatedly heard these type of protests are full of far right hooligans. Out of curiosity, I attended one last year and found it to be full of peaceful, educated, concerned citizens with reasonable questions about Gov over reach. Some of whom were former political prisoners, who warned of the dangers of segregation, censorship and divided societies we have seen during this pandemic and cautioned these were fertile ground for the further centralization of power, Are they hyper sensitive in these concerns because of their trauma or are they greater attuned to early warning signs having lived through it? It’s an important conversation we should have.
I saw a picture of one of the truckers, who lived under Ceausescu and drew parralels with Trudeau. I find it interesting why he thinks that. Is he crazy and being dramatic or is he seeing something that those who have not had that experience do not?
Whenever those with different views
are painted as pariahs, I want to know whether that is really an accurate portrayal or just political smears. After all, they are just advocating for policies similar to those that the UK and Denmark have. I trust Freddie to do a good interview here.
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Rich Thompson
2 days ago
@P Mustart Well said!

RememberAllah
2 days ago
Idk bro, but I have the omicron right now and I’m very sick! The pain in my upper back is extreme too. Not mild in my case….

Amanda Thurston
2 days ago
We should of done it last week!

Amanda Thurston
2 days ago
@KLRJUNE lol, probably from the studies that say Danes are the happiest country of people ,and someone twisted it and said it’s because of drugs, my husband NEEDS some chill pills but his doctor won’t write for them.

Amanda Thurston
2 days ago
@BØRGE ODK I SECOND THAT, the handling, and bullying was a Total disgrace ! And the zombie returning to the surface, what an amateur move! It’s really tainted my belief that the gov is capable of handling the most basic simple tasks, even I could of told them burying a billion bodies in a shallow grave, near water would make it toxic and end very badly. A little common since, Incinerate on site, would of solved the slu of horror stories before it began, We wouldn’t of had mink on playgrounds, we wouldn’t have had truckloads of mink stolen for example, I do believe it was a disgusting political stunt to handle it so badly, so the industry could never recover, handling it all to China on a silver platter, because EVERYONE knows that the animals have rights there (insert major sarcasm)
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Amanda Thurston
2 days ago
@Drew Dam Denmark had 60% on the industry, and guess who had 40% ? CHI-ñAh guess who has a monopoly now?

René Borg
2 days ago
yes. given all the assumptions underlying the current ‘health crisis’ are demonstrable false and there is no clear justification for any measures, they should never have been employed in the first place
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Joe
2 days ago
That’s a resounding yes from me.

Jens Angelsgaard
2 days ago
Camilla is a paid government talking head. Pure Puke!
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GC
2 days ago
Are those responsible for the pandemic ever going to be exposed ?
Are they releasing new variants…e.g. ” NeoCoV ” ??
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tfbbm
2 days ago
yes.
suggestion: how the “pandemic” coincided with when the aerodynamically shaped 2 dimensional printed metal aerosol fumigation making sea-ground level 2020. Everywhere on Earth at this time is breathing the contents of the insides of a hologram screen.
“H.A.A.R.P.” is a big part of it. The jets spraying the fumigation and the trails of are getting edited out of the open air sky. It has already begun.
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Elaine Steers
2 days ago
Yes

vadane vadas
2 days ago
Still, a lot of deliberate damage has been done to the society! We can’t forget about it. If we do, we’ll have similar story gain in the future.
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P.A. Arsenault
2 days ago
You need to change the focus of the conversation. I am worried these vaccine mandating governments are going to call victory for their strategies and they will never admit Ivermectin strategy in India was more succesful.
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Richard Smith
2 days ago
If I was a young grad student and I wanted to study epidemiological modelling I would certainly rather study with this lady and learn how do to create proper models rather than learn from either Ferguson or Medley!

Cinderella De Vil
2 days ago
@donepearce that is not a sensible decision. We as a species got to this point by exercising our immunity. A cold will not kill you. It will keep your natural immunity fit, and will keep it from turning against yourself.
Much of the autoimmune diseases which are on the increase in the west is the result of too much hygene.
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Cinderella De Vil
2 days ago
@Drew Dam I am a doctor, and I am opposed to mass vaccination. I believe the West has gone mad. This is a narcissistic madness. Only people at risk should be vaccinated. And we should spend the savings from fewer jabs in tailoring individual immunization for the vulnerable.
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tattooair inc
2 days ago
Probably because someone in the Danish government has finally watched a recording of NBC Nightly News on January 24, 2021. Then they finally understood the reality. https://youtu.be/BTQAAZ-7OqQ

LadyWatchingBird
2 days ago
Yes they have.

Jenn Roberts
2 days ago
@Christian e.g. there would be back to back hangings. So many perpetrators….. worldwide
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Jenny Eyles
2 days ago
Gain of Function Experiments:- Whether the Sars-Cov2 virus escaped from a high security bio lab or not, why is there no public discussion on banning the Gain of Function experiments?
The GoF lab leaks are clearly very dangerous, but no one mentions it.
Are we all self censoring on that topic?
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Jan van der Zanden
2 days ago
@Madelaine Morch Yes, that’s the only point in Camilla’s exposé that is imo fundamentally wrong. But: that’s not her discipline/expert area.

tattooair inc
2 days ago
@Jenny Eyles https://youtu.be/ihjNDf32_Ac

Veda Vyasa
1 day ago
sorry, Danmark is not the first. Bosnia and Herzegovina was the first country free from V-pass and mandatory vaccination, because of lawyer Mirnes Ajanovic, who successfuly protected human rights on the basis of the the constitutional law. Please Ask him how he managed this 2 month ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVWIDJM4u4I&t=3437s Here is also italian interview with him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za6Nu18qO3o&t=2825s
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La Mel
1 day ago
Please, interview Dr. Tess Lawrie about ivermectin saga and let her play the recorded conversation with Dr. David Hill revealing he was coerced by Unitaid to change his conclusions about the benefit of ivermectin in C19 in 2020.

Sander Bauwens
1 day ago
Yes!

Moe No
1 day ago
ABSOLUTELY YES

Moe No
1 day ago
RememberAllah do you wear a necklace? If so what type of metal?

Jethro Bodine
1 day ago
Yes, but I think she was evasive about modelling per se, and the implication that the restrictions were right in the first place bothers me.

Angeline Briscoe-Sperling
1 day ago
I find the video very good. Just to add, Ireland has been free for many weeks.
Two important topics are; the adverse effects of vaccines and how injured people are not getting help or even recognition.
Another important topic is the surpression of medication and treatments that have cost many lives.
These topics are important because if ” it” happens again, the power will be in knowledge and may prevent it happening again.
These two topics have not been researched enough and not been made public.
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Andrew Messer
1 day ago
Yes they have done the right thing. May all countries follow swiftly

Murilo Borges
19 hours ago
Yes…everyone shoud have fallowed Sweden since beginning

Annkristin Barnes
15 hours ago (edited)
@Madelaine Morch There was also the threat of a draconian pandemic law earlier in Denmark, which stated that foreign military personel could be used to forcibly va**inate the public in case of an “emergency”. As I recall, it was altered after massive protests, but not abolished entirely? We are concerned in Sweden that our government is planning to override our constitution with something similar.
The remaining threat of these un-lawful laws should be discussed widely!
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antropologue
10 hours ago
Topic: the lack of constitutional citizenship (only found in constitutions) is killing the European societies.

mickeyh1961
10 hours ago
Yes and yes

Susan Winchcombe
7 hours ago
Good, about time countries started to get back to normal, but I’m afraid she lost me when she said the vaccine covers all Corona viruses, if that’s the case why are people Co tracing for a second time, one own immune system copes far better with variants!

Md. Ahsun Raju
7 hours ago
An investigation should be done about Denmark. It has fucked enough by importing & marketing China Lock down. It has surely got from the evil gates NWO, WEF

Joshua
5 hours ago
I was intrigued about all the intense media focus on the so called “Vaccine Inequity” in Sub-Saharan Africa. Since when does the media give a rats ass about those folks? I did some research: Most of these countries have a vax rate<3% and also have the lowest infection rates in the World. Conversely those countries with a vax rate>65% have the highest infection rates. Aside from being dangerous on other levels, it looks to me like the vax increases the infection rate drastically. This Sub Saharan “control group” for the “experiment” cannot be allowed to reveal the truth, that is why there is a push to jab them all and eliminate the control group, IMHO. I was stunned by the range of numbers, nothing close that could be attributed to “noise”. This is certainly a smoking gun!
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H L
2 hours ago
Its not covid laws, they’re all measures! Shldve asked her why they use incorrect terms.

Number 7
2 days ago
I love Fred’s style of interviews.
Appears to not have an agenda. Or if he does, he keeps it to himself.
Old fashioned journalism. Tough fair questions. And letting the person speak, but not unchallenged.
Breath of fresh air.
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WithMetta
6 hours ago
He always has an agenda which he never good at concealing. He repeatedly asked this interview subject leading questions to support his views
, and she consistently pushed back. I’m old enough to remember “old fashioned journalism” where reporters were expected to come from a place of neutrality. It’s a very difficult thing to do, and it’s absolutely not what you are watching here. It’s alarming, really, that this can pass for reportage without agenda. Seems the consumer no longer understands what neutral reporting looks like. This ain’t it, and he knows it.
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devonmackify
3 days ago
I am happy to hear this and I hope that this translates into others paying attention. Thanks from Canada !
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
Not even close… Politics – the “brain dead” guvment(al) went against the experts in the start, and have lyed and lyed and.. Look into the killing off the worlds best mink production – illegally – costing every dane ca 500 dollars + los of export and taxes for years – maybe for ever.. And Mette Frederiksen’s lies and deleting sms’s “so” the Mink comission can’t read her comunication in the days, where they were deciding to do it.. And the cops calling the mink owners and pushing them haard to kill their mink, before it had been legaized..
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sunflower
2 days ago
Have you notice mainstream media, such as CBC is not talking about it. They want us to be fearful , so that we keep on watching the news on CBC …I am so done with them.
Dr John Campbell from the UK was right all along he has his own channel, watch it if you can….over one million of subscribers…. That should count for something.
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codorin
2 days ago
Trudeau is not know for his smarts. he is more famous for his socks. hace fun in his ability to understand anything truthful.
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Andrew JS
2 days ago
Denmark and England have now both made the right decision on this in my opinion.
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Browneyez
1 day ago
Canada is waiting. Go truckers.
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DDS Rdds
1 day ago
BØRGE ODK only good this production are gone ,

Jens Angelsgaard
1 day ago
Unherd = UN-herd

Jens Angelsgaard
1 day ago (edited)
@BØRGE ODK YES – Germans and Scandinavians can easily see through UNherds tricky spin. The danish government is scared of its own earlier Covid lies
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Jens Angelsgaard
1 day ago
@Andrew JS – Is it the right decision to recently put legislation in place that can declare a new lockdown within the hour?
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Jens Angelsgaard
1 day ago (edited)
@ DDS – The danish government, police and army broke the danish constitution GRUNDLOVEN. This is the issue.
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Friendly One
5 hours ago
I’m praying Canadian Truckers can drive an 18-wheeler size hole through Trudeau’s tyranny.

Jesmond Mifsud
1 day ago
A country actually following the real science. Well done Denmark. Let’s hope that more countries follow this trend. It’s time to end this madness.
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Tosja Kaj
14 hours ago
Рlus the echo of the Canadian protests..

Jonson Javier
12 hours ago
Denmark is one top happiest country in the world having less working hours per week, very high minimum wage rate with free university and medical and child care.
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Klaus Larsen
3 days ago
One of the unsong hero researchers of the pandemic. I am Danish but I did not know of her until today
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tule fogger
1 day ago
her IQ must be waaaayyyyyy up there, high up there (so awesome)

Paul Whetstone
3 days ago
Fantastic interview, Freddie! We desperately need more Danish-style culture in the US.
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Kate-o
Kate-o
3 days ago
They have a unified culture and respect life aka never happening in the US.
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FuskerFisker
3 days ago
I’m from denmark …and i’ll tell you it has not been easy to be in the group of 19 % not vaxx’ed. There has been a lot of out-shaming from the vaxx’ed people, but i guees it has been the same all over the world. Anyway peace and love to all the pure blooded, greetings from John in Denmark
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fck munch
3 days ago
@FuskerFisker exactly that mate. The shaming and segregation all over the world of the unvxd, by gov, media and vaxd people is utterly disgusting and appears to be just washed over when a person from the establishment appears to be reasonable all of a sudden. I see it as Stockholm syndrome. This isn’t over,, not by a long shot. Something stinks.
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FuskerFisker
3 days ago
@fck munch agree
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James Smith
3 days ago
Will never happen. The US is highly polarized, aided and abetted by the winner-takes-all political system. In Denmark, no single party has had majority rule since around 100 years!
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
Not even close… Politics – the “brain dead” guvment(al) went against the experts in the start, and have lyed and lyed and.. Look into the killing off the worlds best mink production – illegally – costing every dane ca 500 dollars + los of export and taxes for years – maybe for ever.. And Mette Frederiksen’s lies and deleting sms’s “so” the Mink comission can’t read her comunication in the days, where they were deciding to do it.. And the cops calling the mink owners and pushing them haard to kill their mink, before it had been legaized..
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
@FuskerFisker Knæk og bræk – hvis du er stangfisker..

FuskerFisker
3 days ago
@BØRGE ODK hehe Børge det er jeg …og nu varer det ikke længe inden vi skal igang med sæsonens sild i limfjorden ….glæder mig som et lille barn ;-D og dig ?
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
@FuskerFisker Deep shit. Bor 10 km fra nærmeste vand, og 30 fra “min” Gudenå, hvor jeg plejede at to-håndsflue “konstant”, hvis jeg havde tid/råd. Og jeg “kan ikke” nøjes med af og til – får laksefeber, når sæsonen starter, og abstinenser i dagevis efter en tur – som jeg reelt ikke kan, fordi kun MC og ingen steder at sikre tøj osv mens jeg fisker 1 km væk.. Surt show.. :/
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FuskerFisker
3 days ago (edited)
@BØRGE ODK du må have fat i en bil hvor grejet altid ligger klar …anyway, sådan gør jeg året rundt alternativt er en 30 eller 45 scooter ikke dum til at klare opgaven, hvis det handler om økonomi.
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
@FuskerFisker Det er om penge. Har haft bil, og gjort som du siger – men det er bil eller nyt tag eller nye vinduer eller tandlæge osv.. Førtidspension – fedt nok at det er DK, men stadig surt in the middle of nowhere, hvor jeg fx ik ku få internet eller havde mobildækningen, så jeg måtte opgive firmaet – og knækkede psykisk.. Og jeg her ikke rigtig tillid til to hjul mere, efter jeg smadrede et korsbånd 3-4 år siden, foruden at jeg som sagt skal parkere langt fra vandet lige op af en cykel og gangsti, hvor læderjakke, hjelm stangrør osv er lige til at tage med.. Nogle gange er oddsene bare imod en.. ;P
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Madasin Paine
3 days ago
@FuskerFisker
Thank you for telling US. We really need to learn of the success failures and challenges of countries like yours.
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Night Lily
2 days ago (edited)
yes, and in Canada! Canada’s handling of the pandemic has been pathetic.
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Allan Frost
2 days ago
And pay 50% tax?
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Eye of Horus
2 days ago
@FuskerFisker I find that horrible to hear. Too bad Freddie didn’t question her about that.

Craig Walters
2 days ago
It’s too late for us unfortunately. As soon as Trump uttered the words, “Democratic Party hoax”, we were doomed to lose this battle

Susan Drakenviller
2 days ago
@fck munch Well, I happen to be vaccinated and I never tried to convince others unless they ask my advice. However so many times I have been pressured by people not to get vaccinated, they call me a sheep, they bother me with their unfounded conspiracy theories and so on. All I hear is ‘elites’, ‘establishment!’ and no actual solid arguments. You know what stinks? Five former friends of mine dead of covid, all unvaccinated and members of their family too that they convinced not to protect themselves. Congratulations.
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fck munch
2 days ago
@Susan Drakenviller wow. Well, unfounded conspiracy theories? How about the fact that in 8 months, these new technologies have killed more people than in 30 years of all others combined. That’s official. Shame that when we try to share this information in a link it gets deleted by shittube or other guilty parties. Nothing to see here…just a coincidence i suppose. Not that we’re duty bound to provide this info. People have issues accepting it, on the whole, plus the colossal amount of other glaringly obvious social engineering and gaslighting tactics that have been used and officially admited. Try SAGE for one. And, as your story is so easily told, so is mine: everyone i know who’s had the poke is ill. Many people i know were refused treatment for other illnesses that could be easily treated but refusals of hospital admission made them drastically worse. Some are now dead. But of course, this is, i suppose, just a story to push my narrative. Not the “establishment elites” using utterly ridiculous policies which do the opposite of good, like refusing early treatmemts that have been proved to work time and time again. Oh no, not them. They never make billions by way of economic cronyism. No, never them. Enjoy your CBDC’s. The BIS and blackrock runs your info. You were warned. And I don’t give a monkeys.
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Susan Drakenviller
2 days ago
@fck munch Well if you don’t give a monkeys and don’t care, you are certainly not any better than the blackrocks, elites etc… and you are not worth talking to either.
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FuskerFisker
2 days ago
@Madasin Paine you’re velcome madasin, have a nice day

Milton Conde
2 days ago
@fck munch get a life
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Paul Whetstone
2 days ago
@Allan Frost …and get free health care, free education, free job training. Besides, if billionaires would just pony up, the average American wouldn’t be tax burdened.
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Allan Frost
2 days ago
@Paul Whetstone It is a long time since you have been in Denmark and don’t trust everything you read. Healthcare is the worst it has ever been, education is limited and you pay for books and so on, job training – maybe if you want to drive a bus. Many things have changed here over the last 25 years and not to the better!
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fck munch
2 days ago
@Milton Conde i have one thanks. And i intend to keep it.

fck munch
2 days ago
@Susan Drakenviller and you addressed no points in my original comment, which i addressed to someone else, which you used to reply to me. The segeragation is utterly disgusting. And you are no better than blackrock and the BIS if you just wash over that. Which i feel was your origin intent anyways. You just wanted a dig. Well done. Keep digging.
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Susan Drakenviller
2 days ago
@fck munch You haven’t heard me defending ‘segregation’ so what is your problem, what’s the dig?
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Paul Whetstone
2 days ago
@Allan Frost I’ve visited Denmark several times in the last 10 years because my wife’s side of the family lives there. I believe them when they tell me the US is about the last place they would ever want to live.
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Allan Frost
2 days ago
@Paul Whetstone I am not saying USA is a better place. But Denmark is getting more and more like the US.
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db
2 days ago
thats impossible, it’s an oxymoron basically

Rock On
2 days ago
Nope. Utterly corrupt society!
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fck munch
2 days ago
@Susan Drakenviller the shaming and segregation was the main point of my comment – to someone else. You washed over that and had a ramble about something different. You didn’t even address the main point. Instead you decided to talk about conspiracy theorists. Wtf! All of what i responded to you originally is easily verifiable facts and you didnt address any of it. Whether you like it or not, the “establishment” has it’s grip into just about everything, including CBDC’s which are a priority with regard to economic surveillance. You failed to address that also.
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Rock On
2 days ago
@FuskerFisker no shame in Africa for not taking white man’s poison. Locals know the poison is in the injection. Tanzania discovered this when sterilizing agents were in vaccines.
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Rock On
2 days ago
@fck munch no shame in Africa over not being vaccinated!
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fck munch
2 days ago
@Rock On Tanzania’s team didn’t fair so well with that rebellion. Shame, the president was very funny with his testing labelling, foiling their rigged tests. I would’ve liked to have seen more of him and his team. But they seen it a mile away. They weren’t daft.

Susan Drakenviller
2 days ago
@fck munch Did I? My point was that as much as people complain about shaming and ‘segregations’, they never consider the other side being harassed by them for having a completely valid different opinion. And again I am for free choice not mandates, however I never heard any convincing argument not too.
You are just stating that your facts are easily verifiable but sorry they are not. You can believe that but you are wrong.The only thing that supports it is your idea that the ‘establishment’ or what not is corrupt. People aren’t dying or ill because of the vaccine.
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Faz A
2 days ago
“High Trust in health authority” as rare as humanity in humans.
“SAGE, UK: people were “too relaxed about the pandemic.”
It then urged the government to increase ‘the perceived level of personal threat…”
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FuskerFisker
2 days ago
@Rock On so nice to hear …maybe i should go and live there …only 2,3 % vaxxed in tanzania sounds good in my ears
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D JSV
1 day ago
Here in Sweden no one wears masks indoors nor outdoors. Not in shops, not in restaurants, not in schools, not on buses. And no one is fighting, screaming or building their identity on this issue. Not only are masks not required, the health authorities don’t even recommend wearing them (with a handful of exceptions).
We stuoidly and recently introduced a very limited Covid passport (for some venues with 100+ people)
We are, rather famously, not a ‘right wing’ country. Nor are we anti-science. Watching the hysteria in America and the absolute hate is very depressing. Swedes are a very strange and paradoxical bunch. They can both be incredibly independent (going its own way policywise during the entire pandemic) but also cringe-inducing copycats. So far we have largely succeeded in holding the morons who want to copy the US culture war and hatred of unmasked/unvaxed at bay. I hope it stays that way.
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D JSV
1 day ago
@FuskerFisker I’m in Sweden. Unvaxed and doing fine. Not been exposed to too much shaming and none in person (though I’m independent so that helps).
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FuskerFisker
1 day ago
@D JSV the outshaming starts when they find out i was unwaxxed …i standed up to my rights and showed what freedom is about, so i was never scared of telling who i am. i’m glad to hear you not had been exposed to such thing. hav det godt kære svenske nabo
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FuskerFisker
1 day ago
@D JSV i loved the way tegnell managed sweden right from the start ….you did it well in sweden …no doubt.

Paul Whetstone
22 hours ago
@D JSV Unfortunately, the collective IQ and EQ in the US has dropped significantly over the pandemic….of course it’s been in decline for decades. Thanks for your comment.

Fraser Bailey
3 days ago
It’s good to see the Danes Lego of all the stupid rules. The rest of the world needs to do the same.
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Ulrich Enevoldsen
3 days ago
Lego? Was that a pun?
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TheLenskjold
3 days ago
They have only eased restrictions as they did last year and will shut us down again for the winter!
The epidemic law has not been removed
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Kekistani Help Desk
3 days ago
Can’t decide if joke… Or spelling mistake

thundercity311
2 days ago
“Lego”. Nailed it.
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Sheerluck Holmes
2 days ago
It’s good to see the Danes Lego of all the stupid rules
I daned to laugh at that.
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Scott D
2 days ago
Well done!

Herman Seabird
2 days ago
So funny you say Lego! Brilliant pun
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Conor White
2 days ago (edited)
Seems Ireland and Uk did this earlier.. unfortunately as you move further east and south in Europe, it’s vaccine mandates, booster mandates and fines if you don’t comply – Austria
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Drew Dam
2 days ago (edited)
The ‘stupid rules’ were set in place to see how ‘believed’ are the stupid rules. A test of the populas’ psychotic belief-system. There are, however, great changes afoot, not ‘Global Warming’, which is a short transitory phenomenon only, but far more sinister ‘Global Cooling’ that is also transitory, 100 year approximately, and that is how long the current Grand Solar Minimum will last. The BBC did two programmes on 17 January 2014, https://youtu.be/DueVWamHmYs, about the cyclical fact but at the time the scientists failed to understand exactly what is a Grand Solar Minimum! Nevertheless, the ‘paid-for’ scientists were more than happy to take the cash and the BBC changed their tune to comply with the narrative of ‘Climate Change’ with us all boiling in an overheated world. Now that the truth can be felt in a cold northern hemisphere with abundant snow and ice everywhere (except in the UK which for the moment continues to bathe in the comfortably warm North Atlantic Drift), the ‘Climate Warmers’ will not only appear silly, they will also be freezing cold. Wise up, do the research and buy some woolly undies…
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Clinton Boucheix
2 days ago
The rest of the world have no Ikea
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Miguel Planas
3 days ago
Brilliant. It’s wonderful to see what happens when modelling is done and used correctly.
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martifingers
2 days ago
I can’t help feeling that this is a bit like the old adage about spending on advertising . Half of it is ineffective and wasted – the trouble is you don’t know which half.
My point is that it’s not sensible to just praise a model because you agree with its policy implications when it is accurate. The rational thing is to look in detail at the models and learn how to improve them – and this is clearly only possible if you are have expertise in this field.
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BobWidlefish
2 days ago
Nope, lockdowns never worked it was just theater. Modeling hasn’t helped at all, it’s done immense harm by making politicians think lockdowns would help.
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Sharon Combs
8 hours ago
Oh, bullshit! The only reason any of these countries is “relaxing” authoritarian over-reach are the massive protests occurring worldwide. But apparently Australia has gone full Nazi!
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Richard K
27 minutes ago
What about the flawed modelling of the last two years? Nothing brilliant about it.

Evolution Through Awareness
3 days ago
I imagine Denmark didn’t apply ‘nudge unit’ suggestions to their modelling. We have seen how certain countries were keen to apply the fear model of influence which has been destructive in many ways.
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L Palm
16 hours ago
Yes I agree.
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Israeldiegorivera Genius2 The real Genius
3 days ago
We have a moral duty not to comply. No to discriminatory vaccine passports and mandates, it is an utter disgrace. This must not happen England. Will never vote Labour or Tory again.
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Jean Dixon
3 days ago
These issues have nothing to do with parties, who are all under orders from their puppet masters. Not enough people understand that.
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Liz Eggar
3 days ago
No. Vote REFORM UK. Great policies that make sense. Check them out.
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Anonosaurus
3 days ago
Same in the US. No compliance, no bended knee. Grew up Republican – now, not a registered voter, and complete contempt for both parties. I pray that they repent for what they’ve done, but they will never get my forgiving vote ever again.
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J OTowner
3 days ago
Same here in Florida. We’ve been done with it for over a year. I’ll never vote Dem or Republican. Independents or third party only!
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J OTowner
3 days ago
@Anonosaurus agreed. I was a lifelong Dem, but left that party in 2016 and joined the Greens. Now they’re corrupted too. I have nothing but contempt for these corporate/ bank owned parties. We need to get big money out of politics and decentralize everything!
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J OTowner
3 days ago
@Jean Dixon the Fed and world central banks are the true government.
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Teresa Steele
3 days ago
A sole independent, and I will be voting as will my family and their families, we need rid of the party system world wide. INDEPENDENT.
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Ja Ozzie
3 days ago
@Jean Dixon so true! People are too naive and gullible about what is really happening and who’s running the country
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Anonosaurus
3 days ago
@J OTowner Glad to hear I’m not the only one. We need to live like the free people we are, forgetting about the rotten political process in this country.
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Jean Dixon
3 days ago (edited)
@J OTowner And those above them.
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fuzfire
3 days ago
At this point Republicans are still far better than Democrats but yes still Repbs aren’t very godly anymore. They have this big tent mentality that pulls in groups bent on sin and selfish and Godless people. Not Good long term!
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fuzfire
3 days ago
Then you are going to allow the worst elements to rule over you. If you exercise your vote for the least corrupt, I.E. Republicans you can still foe a while remain free and prosperous.
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Stanbridge Scientific
3 days ago
common sense in DK, same in Sweden who refused to follow the rest of the world 2 years ago. What are other countries going to do now? How can they still justify their policies?
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Eduardo Viajero
3 days ago
With all these news, Philippines will now be more strict with the No Vax, No Ride policy. The unvaxed cant ride public transport. Even those with cars are also being checked.
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Garry Holmes
3 days ago
Stay awake everyone
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Justin MacCurdy
2 days ago
Meanwhile in Canada the Liberal party is wreaking havoc on it’s citizens through draconian measures.
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The fat Controller
2 days ago
There are no political solutions.
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Clara Wal
2 days ago
We clearly have the same views
! And watch the same channels!

Keep Keepers
2 days ago
@Jean Dixon deep state/elites are in control & they have no mercy upon us the general public
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Mia Ash
2 days ago
Absolutely!
No Mandatory drugs of any kind, EVER!
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Stanbridge Scientific
3 days ago
Common sense in DK, same in Sweden who refused to follow the rest of the world 2 years ago. What are other countries going to do now? How can they still justify their policies? Thank you DK and Unherd for making this video.
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
Not even close… Politics – the “brain dead” guvment(al) went against the experts in the start, and have lyed and lyed and.. Look into the killing off the worlds best mink production – illegally – costing every dane ca 500 dollars + los of export and taxes for years – maybe for ever.. And Mette Frederiksen’s lies and deleting sms’s “so” the Mink comission can’t read her comunication in the days, where they were deciding to do it.. And the cops calling the mink owners and pushing them haard to kill their mink, before it had been legaized..
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John S
3 days ago
The government and public health officials around the world have not demonstrated an ounce of emotional intelligence or common sense in the past two years. At least UK and Denmark are heading in right direction.
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Doctors’ Bury Their Mistakes
3 days ago
@Stanbridge Scientific you got it mate, it has all been a sham/scam, done by shambolic politicians and their “experts”, who must be put on trial in court.
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mar gota
2 days ago
sad to say we have a stupid govt here in the PH by not letting the unvax go out of their house these past month, only the vax can go out freely, they think the unvax spread the disease
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HotBot
2 days ago
But Sweden did follow the rest of the world after a while?

Susanna Nielsen
2 days ago
@BØRGE ODK Jeg vil bare lige sige hej til dig. Er det ikke til at brække sig over, hvis det er det indtryk, udlandet får af Danmark – klassens duks. Opgaven er sandsynligvis at optræde som lokkeduer for at få tvivlerne i andre lande til at tage imod vaccinen Og nu kastes der så lidt smuler ud til folk. Se hvor godt det går her! Ja lad os nu se, hvad de ellers har i ærmet. For de stopper ikke med dette. De er beordret til at lyve for befolkningen. For god betaling sikkert og for visse privilegier.
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Veda Vyasa
1 day ago
It is worthy to hear Mirnes Ajanovic , lawyer and leader of BOSS party in Bosnia and Herzegovina what methos he used to make people in this country free from cov pass and mandatory vaccination, which was against the constitutional law of human rights. Someone sjhould make interview with him in English så that many people can hear!
here was italian interview, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za6Nu18qO3o&t=2825s. There are more interviews but not translated to english.
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D JSV
1 day ago
@BØRGE ODK They say that “the first casualty of war is truth.” I think that applies to pandemics as well. Everything became “push the official narrative” for better or worse
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BØRGE ODK
1 day ago
@D JSV Yep.!!!
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BØRGE ODK
1 day ago
@D JSV Claws Slob “Cowboy 19 – The nue Rezet” or something like that – a book..

Long _one
14 hours ago
It could be that Sweden already has digital I.D, that many countries are aiming to roll out under the guise of covid defense.. Just an idea Glad this woman is speaking sense though. It’s the common sense that should’ve been out there all along. A shame it’s not on mainstream media!

Lars Johansson
3 days ago
I’m aGP in Sweden. This is impressive. Danmark is a few steps ahead of some, and miles ahead of others. They’re showing the way.
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Greg Grimer
Greg Grimer
3 days ago
Belarus showed the way
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Joe B
3 days ago
Why give them any credit? It’s like you are thanking the hostage taker for finally letting you go. They were wrong for 2 years and have ruined so many lives. Now they are trying to wash their hands. And it’s not over yet – there is always the possibility of introducing restrictings and lockdowns again.
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
Ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa – watch Dark Horse Podcast – you don’t have a clue… Not even close… Politics – the “brain dead” guvment(al) went against the experts in the start, and have lyed and lyed and.. Look into the killing off the worlds best mink production – illegally – costing every dane ca 500 dollars + los of export and taxes for years – maybe for ever.. And Mette Frederiksen’s lies and deleting sms’s “so” the Mink comission can’t read her comunication in the days, where they were deciding to do it.. And the cops calling the mink owners and pushing them haard to kill their mink, before it had been legaized..
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Asp Tuber
2 days ago
Normal person in Finland here: Agree totally.
I (re-)discovered SSI:s website in the beginning of December (early Omicron days). Their predictions, and especially their discussions of previous predictions (the prediction talked about here, dated 17/18th Dec, references their prediction from early December, and it was quite nice already around new year to compare the earlier one to reality), made the wait for the “Omicron-tsunami” much less stressful.
The Danish SSI also writes really clearly: not dumbed down (yeah, they do do those press-release things too), but lots of data and very easy to follow conclusions and arguments. (I usually read them in Danish, but they some things, like the models discussed here, they do publish in English too.)
From reading the tea-leaves of our experts it does seem that at least some of them were looking closely at the Danish models (a few oblique references here and there). Journalists and (some) politicians, not so much. Around Christmas we got the situation that our testing capacity (not to mention tracing) just couldn’t deal with it, and it can’t have been a surprise to those looking at Denmark. I’m not usually prone to conspiracy thinking, but I wonder if this (not working to extend testing capability) was a deliberate way to force our politicians out of a case-count mindset…
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Luis Crawford
2 days ago
I did a DNA test I had 3% Denmark and Sweden . Very proud of my Nordic brothers and sisters haha
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Mia Ash
2 days ago
Denmark is the most civilized country!
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meg JA
2 days ago
I’m in NZ we go under a traffic light system, whilst are boarders are closed we are living normally apart from can’t have gathering over 100 whilst we allow omicron to move through slowly. Our boarders are booked until April with thousands of people trying to get in however they are I think going to open the boarders.
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Luis Crawford
2 days ago
@meg JA I don’t think denying freedoms to people who are unvaxed normal. Unfortunately New Zealand, Canada and Australia turned into authoritarian hell holls. Definitely not the liberal and free counties people thought they were.
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MrSmokinDragon
2 days ago
@BØRGE ODK Rant a bit more and continue to use wrong words – that will surely convince everyone you are not a raving lunatic
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BØRGE ODK
2 days ago
@MrSmokinDragon Thank you – for showing your weakness. IF you had had anything to push back with, you would have started with that, and then gone to namecalling (like all good little lefty puppies do, when they can’t defend their claims or beliefs). And – sumtimz u haf 2 be a butt creative, to avoid getting vanished – besides the fact, that english isn’t my first language, and I sometimes hit the wrong key, and often let he mistake be (if I notice it) so weak fukz like you can expose their lack of arguments, by “going after the man instead of the ball”. Try going for some balls next time – I’m convinced you don’t have any.. Bye bye – feel free to use the scene to flash your weak lack of insight, and need to deminnish someone – I won’t use any more time on you – not even read that “answer”, that your narcissist ace can’t resist throwing up, even though yu know, I won’t read it… ;*
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Veda Vyasa
1 day ago
Sorry, Bosnia and Herzegovina was free from cov-passports and mandatory vaccination already from 20. Dec 2021. If you could hear lawyer Mirnes Ajanovic who managed to protect people using the basic laws about human rights , and sued the government of BiH for violating basic laws
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DDS Rdds
1 day ago
Joe B cut Down on your drug, not good for you

DDS Rdds
1 day ago
BØRGE ODK only good this part are closed

Shalini Varma
1 day ago (edited)
@Joe B yes the whole scam has been decades in the making. The narrative collapsing I feel is part of the plan. People need to be really on guard. This is NOT OVER. Remember the goal is Agenda 2030, one world govt, currency, freedom and rights gone, chinese social credit score, tracking, digital id. Please dont fall into the trap of thinking this is done folks
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akyhne
1 day ago
@Shalini Varma Get a life… And a job.

Normally Norma
3 days ago
Beautiful words, Hoping we get this in Canada and the whole world! Inspiring and nice to see someone in a healthcare position that gives us faith in the shambled system!
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Jennifer Neumann
3 days ago
I never thought I’d be scared living in Canada but I am. I feel like they are killing the patient to cure the disease.
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Phil Kubik
3 days ago
Hi Norma.! Greetings from Britsh Columbia. I like your comment, unfortunatley I think our system is set up so as to make it very easy for the goverments to impose rules( whether they make sence or not) on the general public. It’s very concerning and from here in BC there is no end in sight. They keep moving the light at the end of the tunnel. Cheers…!
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oldmoviemusic
3 days ago
@Phil Kubik at least now with the truckers convoy we have brought visibility to just how many people disagree with govt overreach!
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tjampman
3 days ago
@Phil Kubik It is called laws!
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Brent Atkins & Chrys Silvestre
3 days ago
@tjampman mandates are not laws. Canadian leaders went too far in my opinion and many others feel the same way.
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Garry Holmes
3 days ago
Don’t fall a sleep again.
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Normally Norma
3 days ago
@Jennifer Neumann I totally understand what you are saying.. I am starting to fee more hope! Take care
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Normally Norma
3 days ago
@Phil Kubik I am also in BC, on the Van Island and I have sure had enough.. I think we need to get our voices heard more here. Just coming home on the news I heard them being all negative about what is happening in Ottawa.. We must stay positive and stand our ground!!
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sunflower
2 days ago
We need to let Canada know about this , even though they have high number of omicron. They confirmed that omicron is not that severe, no matter what some politicians want to claim! They love to keep us fearful. Enough already.
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Cornel Popa
16 hours ago
Good on you lady
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Npc I’m knot
6 hours ago
this has to end/. its mo longer about covid.. it’s about gov control

Npc I’m knot
6 hours ago
are. they are. if omi is more deadly than cancer/…. people have lost their minds.
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MediaFilter
3 days ago
I’m so glad that voices of REASON are winning out over voices of HYSTERIA.
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VerySeriousUser
3 days ago
Many thanks to you, Unherd, and Camilla Holten-Möller for talking to you.
I think an important thing to bring up would have been the cost and damage caused by these measures.
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Sherry Bonnett
Sherry Bonnett
3 days ago
Yes , we need to talk about how much harm these measure have created.
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J Weir
2 days ago (edited)
The governments do not care. All they want is to bleed you dry and regulate your life. Stupid people out number people with brains, governments will see no need to address this.
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Andy Evangel
3 days ago
I have to first commend you Sayers for your ability to ask the most intelligent questions-it speaks to you doing alot of background research about the chosen subject matter.
Second, my take away from this is that modelling isn’t and cannot be an exact science but it can be done more cleverly with a healthy dose of common sense thinking for it to produce reliably accurate results.
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Madasin Paine
3 days ago
Iteration!

TheKitty1952
3 days ago
Excellent interview. Dr. Camilla Holten-Moller showed the uncertainties of predictions and didn’t cast blame on those whose models didn’t reflect the current reality. Traditionally, epidemiology has been a science of hindsight/detective work for diseases. The rapid worldwide pandemic spread of a disease calling for genetic sequencing and population modeling is relatively new. The predictive models are a function of the parameters placed in their models.
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
Not even close… Politics – the “brain dead” guvment(al) went against the experts in the start, and have lyed and lyed and.. Look into the killing off the worlds best mink production – illegally – costing every dane ca 500 dollars + los of export and taxes for years – maybe for ever.. And Mette Frederiksen’s lies and deleting sms’s “so” the Mink comission can’t read her comunication in the days, where they were deciding to do it.. And the cops calling the mink owners and pushing them haard to kill their mink, before it had been legaized..
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Ioan Charnley-Parry
3 days ago
Sense, logic, rationality and honesty. A recipe for freedom.
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Spider
Spider
3 days ago
Don’t worry, USA will come liberate them from that
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Bob Gillis
3 days ago
I would have more confidence in this pronouncement if they didn’t continue to lie about the faked “case numbers”. And her response to “Are all covid laws being dropped ?”. was “Largely” That’s another way of saying “No”
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Ioan Charnley-Parry
3 days ago
@Bob Gillis I agree. Why experts at the very least are still either unable or unwilling to state clearly why ‘cases’ are a misleading and flawed metric for the severity of the situation is beyond me, unless they’re clearly associated with governmental or pharmaceutical actors. MANY of us realised this extremely early on, it wasn’t a complicated distinction or point of necessary nuance. It does immediately throw up a question mark in your mind regarding their angle/agenda/intended message when they can’t or don’t immediately address the term.
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Bob Gillis
3 days ago
@Ioan Charnley-Parry
Well put. And until they address it and the felonies involved, they could easily use it to justify further renewals downstream.
And, if the UK, is any example, they eventually will, given enough faked numbers.
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Ioan Charnley-Parry
3 days ago
@Bob Gillis unfortunately I suspect you’re right. Baffling how they still persist to insist that we’re coming off the back of 150-160,000 ‘covid deaths’, when recently revealed details – distinctions we should have focused on the entire time – show the true, FAR lower extent of true CV19-related mortality. If only truly independent, honest public inquiries existed….
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
Not even close… Politics – the “brain dead” guvment(al) went against the experts in the start, and have lyed and lyed and.. Look into the killing off the worlds best mink production – illegally – costing every dane ca 500 dollars + los of export and taxes for years – maybe for ever.. And Mette Frederiksen’s lies and deleting sms’s “so” the Mink comission can’t read her comunication in the days, where they were deciding to do it.. And the cops calling the mink owners and pushing them haard to kill their mink, before it had been legaized..
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Ioan Charnley-Parry
3 days ago
@BØRGE ODK I agree that the government have somewhat done their own thing and lied continuously, but sorry you lost me after that. I’ll read it again and attempt to understand the mink story…
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
@Ioan Charnley-Parry They decided that “safety” required killing off all mink – which was not legal. I believe, they have wanted to do that (there “backing parties” have wanted it for ever) and just used this as a tool, to keep the backing group backing them up.. Glow ball izt fluffers…
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Eye of Horus
3 days ago
@Ioan Charnley-Parry Dr Vinay Prasad addresses this in one of his videos. He refers to most experts being interviewed as weather vanes. They shift with the wind and give middle of the road, safe answers.
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Garry Holmes
3 days ago
Now people will fall a sleep again.
Wake up.
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Madasin Paine
3 days ago
@Bob Gillis In general public health officials especially out front are guilty of massive unprecedented injustice and unprofessional oath breaking messups. So they act so “careful” now in phraseology and denialism.
Little countries tend to be more diplomatic and now doubt the UK is lucrative market and trade “partner”.
Not like some of the reactionary loud mouths in certain hegemons who could care less what another smaller country thinks with a few noteworthy exceptions, albeit conditionally so and subject to sudden extreme change.
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rov li
3 days ago
@Spider as long as there is Fauci and Walensky, i doubt

Lea Nielsen
2 days ago
@BØRGE ODK I agree with you 100% – and the reason why “slette mette” is calling off the restrictions right now is because we have the parliamentary election coming up within a year and she wants us to forget that she ordered injections, mask wearing, isolation aso. before we are supposed to vote again!! It is all political…
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BØRGE ODK
2 days ago
@Lea Nielsen spot on.!!!

Mia Ash
2 days ago
Danes are the most civilized people, EVER!
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db
2 days ago
yes, and these Scandinavian countries with their socialist democracies are always portrayed as “illiberal” by American. things are not so simple, or black/white

bzdtemp
2 days ago
@Bob Gillis What fake case numbers?
As for the answer, then “largely” covers it very well since it is exactly that way. The few measures that is left aren’t very different from what you expect people to otherwise if they are sick, as in stay home and don’t go around infecting others.
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bzdtemp
2 days ago
@Ioan Charnley-Parry You seem to have amazing abilities, only those abilities are normally called hindsight so they aren’t really amazing at all.
There is such a thing as caution, just as there is different COVID19 variants which is seems your hindsight is blind to.

bzdtemp
2 days ago
@BØRGE ODK COVID19 was spreading like crazy among those working with the animals – and there was a clear risk that with COVID19 infecting the animals them self they could have become of one or more new variants.
We can’t go back and see what would have happened, but while clumsy handled legality wise the safe thing to do was remove the problem.
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Bob Gillis
2 days ago
@bzdtemp
Provide a real name and I am happy to address your questions.
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BØRGE ODK
2 days ago
@bzdtemp I’m an inventor – I solve problems, when they apear – I don’t just blow up the business.. There are – it seems – no creative minds in the danish goverment. And I’m realistic about the size of the dangers, there were – pretty fuckin’ small.. I was !shamed” from the start, for asking, how “our” people could NOT have a lot od msks aso, when “eveybody” knew, that it was a matter of time, before something would happen, where we would need them. I also wrote to an “official” start up compaby, and suggested, that we got off our aces, and started to make masks and face shields, and filled our needs, and earned money by selling to other countries (it takes 2-3 days to make a mould for casting,. I was “shot down” – shorty after some private cmpanies bought a bunc of cloth in ””8i belive9 Beligium, and made masks. I don’t give a flying turd for “our” goverments (globalizt fluffers) “brains”.
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Ioan Charnley-Parry
2 days ago
@bzdtemp thank you very much indeed for your thoroughly strange comment. I’ve felt this way from the very beginning, no hindsight required. But thanks for saying I have ‘amazing abilities’, compliments are always welcomed

Sir Scofferoff
3 days ago
Other countries need to forget flattening the curve, and flatten their governments overreach.
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Garry Holmes
3 days ago
Thank you for this comment.
People will fall a sleep again
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Fuhgeddaboudit
2 days ago
The only thing that’s been flattened is our morale!
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Chandra Star
2 days ago
Well govts could extend their reach over big pharma, tech, etc and corruption.
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Zeta Reticuli
2 days ago
BRAVO!! Well said.
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Fuhgeddaboudit
2 days ago
@Chandra Star
Those things are government!
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Chandra Star
2 days ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit govt has become PR & spin doctors for those things. Not that they’re not shifty themselves. The Panama papers exposed a lot of these ppl.
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Mia Ash
2 days ago
So well stated!
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Don Tonno Con Fagioli
2 days ago
Yes, that ‘curve flattening’ comment from the modeller caught my ear – because NONE of these measures was ever required, at any time – and they were ALWAYS contrary to people’s inalienable freedoms.
This talking head never had ANY right to impose the measures that she and her sidekicks did.
Seriously, Freddie – are we supposed to feel grateful?
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TIME IS UP
2 days ago
haha well said !!!!!!!
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Nora S
2 days ago
As Dan says on the Pandemic Podcast, flatten the mandates!
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Careful Consumer
1 day ago
Fizzer and/or Bill Gates should be the ones funding the modeling and research.

Kim Berman
1 day ago
@Chandra Star
That’s what they’ve already been doing!

J Ttt
1 day ago
Meanwhile blackrock. Vanguard, Amazon etc have sucked up all the wealth and assets and plan to take it all so we’ll own nothing. It must be seized and the perps published.

L Palm
16 hours ago
Right on.
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Neo Dyne Loaders
2 days ago
Good to see Denmark keeping up basic freedom and human rights compared to other countries
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Janko G
3 hours ago
Especially Austria, just approved a law for every adult to be vaccinated by law or face a fine of 3600 euros every 3 months.

SuzyStohrYoung
3 days ago
So grateful for UnHerd. Thank you for covering and the journalism you provide.
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debbiedogs1
debbiedogs1
3 days ago
He is still too biased in several ways, but does some decent work. Not impressive, jist decent for the most part.
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tshekedi walker
3 days ago
@debbiedogs1 i agree. overtime you can see some of his biases come out however, we are all bias. main stream media is extremely bias to the left or right, which ever they support.
With freddie though he’s a bit of fresh air and he’s very close to balanced as you’ll get.
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Kylie Jones
3 days ago
@debbiedogs1 Where do you think his biases lie?

hansiharjunharja
3 days ago
They should legally ban the passports, too. I know they aren’t mandated but it can still be used. It is a documents of segregation. It should not be allowed in a free democracy.
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lionel azulay
3 days ago
What an eye opener… brilliant interview, both of you. Informative, enlightening, and exposing!
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Angie at Work
3 days ago (edited)
It’s wonderful that they relaxed their regulation, but it is still scary that simple modeling from some governmental “experts” can have such an impact on normal citizens lives. Many of us have done mathematical models. Garbagge in, Garbagge out. Modeling assumes the model design is correct, the assumptions are correct and there is uniformity of all data points. We humans are not all identical, so the government policies should never be made just based upon some mechanical computer models!
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BØRGE ODK
3 days ago
Politics – the “brain dead” guvment(al) went against the experts in the start, and have lyed and lyed and.. Look into the killing off the worlds best mink production – illegally – costing every dane ca 500 dollars + los of export and taxes for years – maybe for ever.. And Mette Frederiksen’s lies and deleting sms’s “so” the Mink comission can’t read her comunication in the days, where they were deciding to do it.. And the cops calling the mink owners and pushing them haard to kill their mink, before it had been legaized..
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MrSmokinDragon
2 days ago
LOL – how would you EVER make policies for an entire nation WITHOUT using modelling?

MrSmokinDragon
2 days ago
@BØRGE ODK Are you still ranting? LOL

Angie at Work
2 days ago
@MrSmokinDragon Don’t make policies for the sake of making! Keep the government small please

BØRGE ODK
2 days ago
@MrSmokinDragon Why do you call it ranting mMr Bad Breath?

Veda Vyasa
1 day ago
You should hear Mirnes Ajanovic who exposed government as criminals acting against the basic laws of human rights..and not following even instructions of producers of vaccine. there are some contraindications which should be considered , so everybody cannot take vaccine-. Here he is talking for italians lawyers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za6Nu18qO3o&t=2825s and there are many interviews (not in english ) where is explained how he was legally fighting for freedom in BiH and it should be done in all other countries.
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Pascal Lefrancq
3 days ago
She sounds like she also studied international relations. How careful not to judge the decisions of any other country. Great job and nice interview. Thanks for all the insight.
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RockManLP_Radio
3 days ago
nothing wrong with judging agianst the insane nazi madnates

Classy Compositions
3 days ago (edited)
It seems to me that we could use a little less modelling and a bit more rational philosophical debate about what is actually important in life and in what direction we want to go to as a society.
But most people prefer not to think about such difficult matters, and just want to here “the Truth” from a person in a white coat who has done some untransparent number-wizardry.
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LTVoyager
3 days ago
I have to laugh when restoring basic freedom and human rights is considered a “radical” policy. How far the world has fallen in the last two years.
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Ulrich Enevoldsen
Ulrich Enevoldsen
3 days ago
Agreed
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Luann Rouff
3 days ago
If you don’t laugh you will cry.
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Amelia Mulder
3 days ago
How right you are.
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Joakim Pettersson
3 days ago (edited)
It has taken 100 years to build up our phobophobia, political squabble, drug lobby and the resulting lack of self-agency – within all areas of society – to the levels they all peaked at during this pandemic!
If we only could be more adult, remember how we did know how to manage multiple interconnected risks, rather than panic about every click-bait presented to us.
We can deal with the multiple crisis our last decades of utter unreason expose us to. If we just could remember how. But there is no time for that now. We are playing out all crises at once. We forgot how to handle them.
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Andreas Grubhofer
3 days ago
fncking fauci, daszak n all the other corrupt scientists etc… fncking who, chinese government n msm.. n fncking gain of function in wuhan… they couldve warned the whole world way earlier n probably even stopped this pandemic (or at least wed have way less deaths, suffering…)
we need better systems… power to the people n not a few hundred people in parliament…
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TONY COLLYWESTON
3 days ago
@Andreas Grubhofer sounds like your brain is overheating because you don`t understand.
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TONY COLLYWESTON
3 days ago
Society can try and get back to normal because the majority got vaccinated.

Garry Holmes
3 days ago
Stay awake everyone
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69birdboy
3 days ago
@TONY COLLYWESTON ridiculous comment…so you know what the death rate is even for unvaccinated people under 50? 0.08 per 100,000. The death rate in car accident s is far higher.
The collateral damage will be huge and last a lifetime for many people.
We also have no idea what will happen long term with vaccine injuey
One thing that has become clear is that the vaccines have never affected transmission….only protection to the individual, so it should’ve always been an individual choice. You got played
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Susanna Nielsen
3 days ago
You are right. I have made a comment at the top at this side. I am from Denmark and my impression of what is going on is quite different. Now the Danes go to bars to get drunk. Hope they wake up one day with a hangover.
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DJ
3 days ago
This is just so wonderful to hear. Such a calm and measured conversation. Comparatively here in Australia, we have hysteria, fear and unhinged public servants and medical ‘experts’ driving division, kids with masks at schools, consideration of 4th boosters and that covid control will never end.
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Fauzia Choudhry
Fauzia Choudhry
3 days ago
That’s because there is no shortage of useful idiots and corporate sellout pollies, bureaucrats, public health officials, and media in Oz.
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David Fedele
3 days ago
I’m from Australia, I couldn’t agree with you more.
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Michael Mears
2 days ago
Pretty much nailed it, DJ. Federal Election coming up soon. Let’s see if enough people have had enough.
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Hayden E
22 hours ago
@Michael Mears probably lots of votes will go to labour and we’ll be just as bad off
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Tulsi Vana
20 hours ago
@Hayden E but what’s the alternative? I could never vote for an unctious selfish prat like Clive Palmer
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Michael Mears
20 hours ago
@Hayden E Yeah, that can happen, if people just vote out of spite. I keep in mind we have two votes: one for the House of Reps and one for the Senate. There are plenty of minor parties people can put high on their list, well before the majors. It’s all a matter finding parties with policies that align as much as possible with your own. Plus, any party you vote “1” for who also reach the required minimum 4% of first preference votes will receive electoral funding. It currently is $2.91 per “1” vote, and last time is was about $68M all up for those who received it. Well over $50M went to the two major parties, so by not voting “1” for them we rob them of that funding.
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Hayden E
18 hours ago
@Michael Mears very well put. I do vote independent with the party that closest resembles my beliefs and am concious of who their vote goes to at the end of the day. Glad to have more independents in parliament makes for a better system.
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Aline de Leandro
16 hours ago
@Hayden E Labour/Liberal are just 2 sides of the same coin. They are controlled by the same entity!

Aline de Leandro
16 hours ago
@Hayden E Independentd give their preference to a major part like Liberals. Greens are scary.

Hayden E
15 hours ago
@Aline de Leandro yes no greens for me, I prefer liberal over labour but you’re right. Labour and liberals same as the criminals

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K R
3 days ago
I might have missed it, but was there any mention of metabolic health and vitamin D levels. Wouldn’t it be amazing to see that figured into the modeling, meaning, what would the hospitalization rates be if everyone exercised and got sun or took the relevant supplements, and did not eat seed oils and other foods that cause inflammation.
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Gregory Cickavage
3 days ago
This pandemic has never dominated my life. Thats the problem, people over exaggerating the facts!
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fixfaxerify
3 days ago
On the same day that Austria is introducing mandatory vaccination, Denmark is doing the opposite. Looking at the numbers (daily deaths, new cases, etc) nothing is particularly more alarming in Austria as compared to Denmark as far as I can tell. Oh, there is a difference in vaccination uptake however
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David Paz
David Paz
3 days ago
Well done, Denmark. The Zero Covid strategy has proven to be untenable.
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Joe
3 days ago
Sanity in Denmark. Seriously well done!
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Project Dorcas
Project Dorcas
3 days ago
Thank you for this intellectual and balanced conversation. If only Australian modellers have a tiny fraction of Dr.Holten-Møller’s integrity & intelligence.
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metalfox28
metalfox28
3 days ago
This science needs to be shared with the leaders in Canada
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Oneva Lewa
Oneva Lewa
3 days ago
If you are sick, stay home…. Common sense. 2 years too late… But finally.
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Deborah Hebblethwaite
3 days ago
Well done as always. You should win the best host award
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Buddy
Buddy
3 days ago
I seriously hope you don’t get Rogan-ed for having an open dialogue. Keep up the great work, we support you!
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Brandon
Brandon
3 days ago
Congrats Denmark! This is wonderful News a government that actually follows real science. Peace and love from Canada! Go truckers!
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Michael Neuroth
Michael Neuroth
3 days ago
Finally! Science backed , logical decisions .
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Pensky File
Pensky File
2 days ago
Freddie, just ask her straight out: “how the hell did we get it so wrong?”!!
We need the Dane approach adopted globally.
Thanks for the interview
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CA
3 days ago
We desperately need professionals like Dr Holten-Møller in New Zealand help our govt act accordingly
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Tangle
Tangle
3 days ago
All this rhetoric about “being careful and seeing how things progress” only ever goes one way. They weren’t being careful with the unseen damage done to millions.
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BIGMAN TINGZ Network
3 days ago
The fact is the models haven’t proven reliable. Lives have been destroyed around the world following these “measures “and these models are to blame. These establishments need to be held responsible.
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Mister Fixie
3 days ago (edited)
Do the unaccountable US modelers who have caused so much harm ever go back and see where they have erred and build that new data into the model? Will they apologize for the damage? How have Denmark’s models differed from those of other countries, and why?
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Tom Loewen
3 days ago
Brilliant example of leadership. quote, “we have to communicate uncertanties” loved that line! Instills confidence
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steveevans946
3 days ago
We must end state emergency powers. It’s far too tempting for governments to be able to change laws and create new ones, without democratic scrutiny. These powers have been the only dangerous thing about the last two years.
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Andrei Aroutiounov
3 days ago
You amuse me Freddy. The UK models were wrong because they were produced by incompetent people. In a normal system you would fire incompetent and hire a new team (or better three teams). But, for that, the government itself needs to be competent.
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Bill C
3 days ago
Omicron is going through our house right now. I’ve been fighting it for a week. I have had worse colds. In our house, the one person that had gene therapy, had the worst symptoms.
Secondly, the recent study out of China showed people that had SARS had a huge immune response to SARS2. Much higher than the vaccines.
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Epi
3 days ago
Well done Denmark ! Great common sense policies !
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ranter7100
3 days ago
Finally some sort of sanity from the politicians in a country can this spread to NZ now please
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RC
7 hours ago (edited)
We’re into the 3rd year of the pandemic which began worldwide in 2019. We’re way past 18-month mark. Excellent interview!
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linda be
3 days ago
Could it have anything to do with the complaints filed in the ICC? I think so.Crimes against humanity.
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T G
3 days ago
This is very balanced. Keep up the good work!
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Lora M
3 days ago
excellent! Bravo, Denmark, putting the people first, as always!
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Privacy Matters
1 day ago
Please have her replace everyone’s modeling. She needs to win some sort of award.
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Renita
3 days ago
I’ve worked in patient based forecast modeling for Oncology for over ten years. She’s a very experienced and knowledgeable modeler who takes pride in the accuracy and quality of her work. Congratulations on your team in Denmark! Great job. Doing sensitivity analysis around each input variable into the model helps you understand which variables are the most important. These inputs have to be as accurate as possible with your estimates. Learning, validating and refining the input assumptions is key to success. She understands this process very well. Please share your successes and key learnings with your fellow modelers in Canada and around the world.
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Paul Taintor
2 days ago
This is the most surprising video about modeling. I had lost ALL faith in it the field. Glad to hear it can be useful if done by honest scientists. It’s sad how corrupt or incompetent our modelers have become.
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Pumpjack Piddlewick
3 days ago
As said below, brilliant interview. Particularly as you let the interviewee answer your questions fully, and don’t try to interrupt with your own agenda. Brilliant.
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Claude Studer
3 days ago (edited)
I’m so grateful to South Africa for keeping us ” up to date”, due to their impeccable statics information and sharing there of, pointing us, as it were, towards the direction this omicron virus could take us and subsequently leading us to undertake the actions we are currently seeing taking place today. God bless.
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DJ
3 days ago
This is just so wonderful to hear. Such a calm and measured conversation. Comparatively here in Australia, we have hysteria, fear and unhinged public servants and medical ‘experts’ driving division, kids with masks at schools, consideration of 4th boosters and that covid control will never end.
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Alien in drift
3 days ago (edited)
It’s scary that uncertain mathematical modellings caused the chaos at the beginning of covid19 and will keep causing the chaos again.
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Learn Media
Learn Media
3 days ago (edited)
Denmark has Dr Camilla Holten-Møller who speaks knowledgeably and intelligently on a highly technical subject in a second language and the Uk has Professor Neil Ferguson who, ostensibly, does the same job and struggles to talk to anyone knowledgeably or intelligently in any language. Another high quality interview full of useful information. Excellent, thank you.
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Zeeshan Khan
3 days ago
Freddie, great thoughtful content. Grown-ups having real discussions which seems to be now absent from normal society. I am not sure if you have already done this but I’d recommend talking with the founders of the Great Barr1ngton Declarat1on as well as captains of the Canadian Truckers Convoy.
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Lucinda Brown
3 days ago
Well done Denmark! Let’s hope the rest of Europe follow suit.
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Sharon Pfeiffer
3 days ago
Go Denmark. The rest of the world will be watching and seeing if this will work so they can ease restrictions
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Flossy Park
3 days ago
Brilliant interview! So sensible and professional!
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Badabing
3 days ago (edited)
A VERY fitting question for Camilla would be why recommendation for the government (prior to January) always seems to be according to the worst case Mathematical Modeling? What “justified” the Draconian lockdowns used during the last two years.
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Raymond Ager
3 days ago
As ever, the best interviews, the best questions and so informative listening to such experts. Great job.
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Luis Crawford
2 days ago
Wow the interviewer is actually on point with all his questions. So clear and punctual absolutely brilliant interview and then you have great guests I really think this channel is a great source of information especially for UK audiences, something which has definitely been missing for us. Thank you sir!
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jpdp
3 days ago
Common sense from a public health official.
Can we get someone like her here in Australia?
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OnlyOneStarWarsFan
3 days ago
While I’m glad they’re returning to a semblance of sanity, I worry that too many rubicons have been crossed to think that this totalitarianism is remotely over. Hopefully the Danish populace is less NPC than the American populace.
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Marc H
2 days ago
In the USA there is almost no logic behind Covid restrictions. This is the most sensible approach that I have yet seen! It should be adopted world wide!
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Susan Smyth
3 days ago
Hoping Canada follows very soon!
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Making Sense With Robbie
3 days ago (edited)
I’d suspect that a lot of the ideas and news coming out from the government isn’t about telling people the truth, but about getting the public to act in an advantageous way to the government/party spreading the information. So rather than there being a fear of the predicted numbers being true, the idea is that over selling the fear results in an appropriate response from the people. tldr, we are told what we need to hear in order to take the actions we are supposed to take.
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SA_bluemonday
3 days ago
This woman is an absolute Rock Star! Thank you to her and whole of Denmark for BEING SANE!
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DJ
3 days ago
This is just so wonderful to hear. Such a calm and measured conversation. Comparatively here in Australia, we have hysteria, fear and unhinged public servants and medical ‘experts’ driving division, kids with masks at schools, consideration of 4th boosters and that covid control will never end.
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Don Camua
Don Camua
1 day ago
Australia should learn from this. We are still under paranoid stage in the pandemic although most Aussies are experiencing covid fatigue. plus the government lost my trust especially that most premier failed to follow a national model and the PM allowed state leaders to manipulate their citizens thru evil mandates
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Jason Shoulders
3 days ago
I’m so sick of covid. I don’t care anymore. If your scared don’t go outside. This really isn’t that deadly unless you’re old. You lived your life, life has risks, who cares if it just 1 percent more risky
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AnAverageHuman
AnAverageHuman
2 days ago
I wish we could have gotten such clear headedness earlier in this whole mess. If our government had been more open and transparent about the realities there probably wouldn’t have been nearly as much fear and distrust. Tragic but hopefully we will learn.
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Steli P M
2 days ago
Incredible how difficult it is to admit that natural immunity is potent.
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Maeyane Moeng
Maeyane Moeng
1 day ago
How I wish more of the so-called scientists could listen to this and try and bring back objectivity and common science back! We have being emotionally charged and clouded for too long
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Bobby Dread
2 days ago
Congrats to Denmark for pragmatic policies, based on real-world info and sound modeling. The UK needs to rethink its reliance on SAGE and fear-mongering professors such as N. Ferguson! Great interview. Thanks.
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Jean Ellis
3 days ago
Wow I hope someone tells Biden and Trudeau that they are no longer in the “In Group”.
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F. Hugh Eveleigh
F. Hugh Eveleigh
2 days ago
Excellent work. Penetrative questions and clear, balanced and informative answers. Fascinating. Thank you.
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MIO
3 days ago
Trying to seem like we have been resonable in two years. The hyppocracy runs so deep here in Denmark!
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Leszek Nagooglach
Leszek Nagooglach
3 days ago
Greets from Poland! We haven’t had any covid passports at all. And no lockdowns since last winter.
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Paul D’Attilio
Paul D’Attilio
1 day ago
This was incredibly informative. I wish I had more faith in government to tell the truth but unfortunately that is not the case. Great interview and a great format.
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LTVoyager
3 days ago
All countries should have opened up in the summer of 2020 when respiratory viruses tend to be much less severe. Letting the virus spread when the risk was relatively low would have made the winter of 2020 much less severe and might have made covid nearly nonexistent by this winter had things been open again in the summer of 2021.
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Richard Lyon
Richard Lyon
3 days ago
It’s fascinating to compare the head of the expert group on mathematical modelling in Denmark with the likes of “Independent” SAGE modeller tremulous Christina Pagel, who appears to live tweet her morbid fears and anxieties from a fainting couch
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butterflybeatles
3 days ago
Same in Cuenca, Ecuador:
The Cuenca Emergency Operations Committee voted Sunday to allow the reopening of bars, discos, entertainment centers and brothels and to increase the capacity for restaurants and public offices. The COE said that improving Covid-19 pandemic conditions dictated the changes.
Cuenca’s Social Security hospital reports a “modest” increase in Covid-19 admissions and says it is adding beds. (El Mercurio)
Previously under a 30 percent capacity limit, restaurants are now allowed to operate at 50 percent indoor and 75 percent outdoor capacity. In addition, public offices, theaters, gyms, spas, markets and shopping centers are allowed to open to 50 percent capacity.
“As a result of the declining number of Covid-19 infections, we are able to make these changes and hope to make more in the future as circumstances allow,” the COE said in a statement. “We continue to urge the public to observe all health protocols.”
The COE said it continues to urge private businesses, including restaurants, stores and shopping centers, to request vaccination certificates for entry, but said it is no longer mandated.
In a report to the COE, Cuenca’s Health Ministry office said that Covid-19 cases have peaked in the city and should drop rapidly in coming weeks. The Ministry said there is still pressure on hospitals since admissions lag behind new cases by an average of two weeks.
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Anja Oguegbu
3 days ago
Wish we would have that common sense in Germany…but our politicians are a joke…a pretty bad one.
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Andrea Re
3 days ago
Still to watch it. I hope she will say why they had done away with all restrictions before (only to reintroduce them again, so they could do it AGAIN tomorrow) and why they had, among other things, vaccine passports.
Will she show contrition?
Now let’s see…
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LTVoyager
3 days ago
No country has been ahead of Sweden as Sweden followed the science from the start and has always had the most rational policy of any country.
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Willa Frith
Willa Frith
2 days ago
Refreshing. Wow! People really don’t need to be force fed with unverified information because it came from an expert. Really enjoyed listening to this lady. I’m glad they got it right for Denmark. What a relief.
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Ping Pong
18 hours ago
As an eit engineer, my take away from 2 years of hysteria is: dont hire mathematical modellers. They suck.
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Martin Ruth Mohr
2 days ago
Maybe someone should model the past predictions of Neil Ferguson’s modelling. Using the data of his previous modelling, from BSE through Swine flu to Covid (all massive failures…) so that we can get an idea of how massive his next failure will be.
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elektron2kim
3 days ago
“Omicron” is a substance from hating the government and experts who are insanely taking everything away from you in your life. The anger and sadness gets stuck and your remaining life force try to squeeze it out.
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Helen Murray
3 days ago
Great common sense coming from Denmark. Sick of UK’s politicised fear mongering.
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L Palm
16 hours ago
Good on you Denmark, may your non-political stand get through to our bought lot.
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A Simpleton
2 days ago
Yeah, yeah, I like the science, and I enjoy her competence and rationality. BUT these are secondary matters on the issue of restrictions. The problem is whether she is okay with the inhumane government policies, and what line does she think is too far to cross?
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Kevin Hill
3 days ago
Great interview listening to people who know what their doing for a change.
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Catarina SM
3 days ago
Trust comes with truth, expertise and good communication. All that we couldn’t have in Europe and USA, Canada, Australia. etc.
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Greg B
2 days ago
Brilliant! Perhaps the Danish politicians feared a few large trucks parking on their doorstep? All kidding aside, I salute you from Canada.
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Just a Bird
22 hours ago
In the Netherlands we’d also love to have her. So much so that members of our parliament requested our government to please ask her to peer review the models we use.
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TheMasonator777
1 day ago
You should have brought up the fact that the models were very inaccurate, to say the least, in many countries.
I would really like to see a simple graph with modelled predictions vs actual events. I personally think that computer modelling is about as accurate (and ethical) as lie detection. Which means we shouldn’t base public policy on it, or at least take it with a whole bag of salt.
All that has to happen is have incomplete data or bad data and it’s worse than useless.
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Eidolon#
3 days ago (edited)
Nowadays being a specialist is a precocity, almost all are young people with “40 years of age” or less and with a lot of “experience”.
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Thai Thai
18 hours ago
It’s like watching Henry Cavill from the Witcher doing a really good interview! It is surreal to know almost all basic rights taken away in two years returned on Feb 1st. Good thing it was not on April 1st. Denmark is awesome. Danka for the brave modelling!
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Nicola Mackenzie Dodds
2 days ago
This video was more than interesting, it was extremely useful! I live in France, currently suffering from Covid-19 as are my teenage children, and this video was enlightening! Thanks so much for this clear and down to earth sensible journalism.
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HIM1984
3 days ago
Great interview.
Shows what could be accomplished when we remove politics from a medical/public health issue and allow those trained in the relevant fields to genuinely follow science.
People aren’t as daft needing to be cowed to as the politicians, some talking heads in media and others that aim to manipulate seem to think.
Kudos to this good Dr, her team and the nation of Denmark on showing the way forward.
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Jo Voorhees Collins, MPH, BS, NBCHWC
1 day ago
Great discussion, thank you both!
I wish Denmark could impart their wisdom to officials in the US because we are majorly failing here.
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Miroslaw Turski
3 days ago
That lady is scarily impressive. No wonder Danish models have been so effective, when they have such caliber of experts working on them.
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Caroline D
3 days ago
Watch for the boost in tourism, well done Denmark for having common sense.
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Jill Fabing
3 days ago
Dr Muller surely made a lot of intelligent sense. She provided valuable insight and cleared many questions on the variants. Impressive indeed.
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Sweetness
3 days ago
I find it odd that several countries simultaneously reverse their tyrannical “laws”.
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Passion For Art
Passion For Art
2 days ago (edited)
999999+ for Denmark!
Yes everybody wants their own country to follow Denmarks example!
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Michael Ullman
3 days ago
Denmark has had a very low overall rate especially during Delta – I would like to hear her thoughts on that.
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J Spanyer
3 days ago (edited)
Excellent interview, thank you. And I think I can answer your question that you asked many times, but first I’ll give my background. I worked as an electrical engineer for years, then did a computer science degree and became a computer engineer for years, then at 40 my wife had terminal cancer so I went back and did a master’s in microbiology and Immunology to learn to boost her immune system, and she’s doing great 23 years later!
In the Masters program I passed the md/phd biostatistics class and was amazed and appalled at how imprecise the math and science was in statistics. I realized that public health programs are strongly based on statistics and are more of a practice than a science. It’s kind of like cancer medicine, there’s definitely some science but a whole lot of practice (educated guessing) too. So the answer to your question is believe the public health modelers and professionals just like you would believe a medical doctor: if he or she has been right most of the time in the past then they can probably be trusted and if not then they can’t. And if they don’t have a track record, just like a brand new doctor, then take what they say with a grain of salt until their models and advice prove accurate.
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wogfro
wogfro
2 days ago
I won’t hold my breath. The covid passport still exists in some areas. Until every single item related to this is scrapped, they’ll bring it back on a whim.
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Blaise Allen
2 days ago
Another great interview. It’s so refreshing to see a competent Public Health expert openly and honestly discuss modeling and pandemic policies. If only the FollowTheScience experts actually did what Norway has done, we would all be better off.

Glenn Mitchell
3 days ago
Regardless of the accuracy of the models, did the government of Denmark (or the medical professionals advising them) have an algorithm that told them when to adjust their COVID restrictions, or were those decisions simply political, with no direct mathematical link between the model and the decision?
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Dave Tus
Dave Tus
3 days ago
Sensationalizing of events and reality leads millions or billions of people into misery. Thanks Freddie for your great work and you proved that. Let us unherd ourselves in such insanity.

kristina
2 days ago
Dropping the restrictions is simply not enough. Someone has to answer for all the damages. It’s like you’ve been kidnapped and released and the kidnapper simply walked away unpunished.
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Sheena.mary.g
16 hours ago
Brilliant! Denmark is the happiest country in the world…not hard to see why.
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Jongwe Rachembera
2 days ago
Great interview Freddie! Very smart, no BS lady….just real “science” and facts.
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J D
3 days ago
natural immunity is still discussed as a dirty word … this must stop.
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Eli Bo
Eli Bo
3 days ago
I hope it happens in Canada !!! The truckers in Ottawa now are heroes now standing for our freedoms !!!
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KM
KM
22 hours ago
The difference between the UK and Denmark modeling is UK political interference with an intention to twist outcomes to suit the desired narrative. UK modelers have admitted that they modeled to the extreme worst case “on order” so to speak.
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Velvetanne Madro
2 days ago
When will these modelling “experts” start focusing on modelling and predicting the damage lockdowns do due to economy and mental health, and not just COVID “cases”.
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Eidolon#
3 days ago (edited)
Nowadays being a specialist is a precocity, almost all are young people with “40 years of age” or less and with a lot of “experience”.
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Morten Billcliff
2 days ago
Good interview. I’d like to know if any modellers have been asked to look at the other side of restrictions – to model the effects of social immobility, increased anxiety, domestic violence, etc.

Faith Mary Moore
3 days ago
Her defense of the thing that they put in people’s arms 2 or 3 times says it all.
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nextlvlng
3 days ago
The epidemiologists usually make this a matter of math…
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STEPHAN OBERHOFF
2 days ago
Interesting that this obviously intelligent and articulate person would declare Delta as having been more infectious (which is the behavior of progressive variants – AND more severe. That is unfounded. Delta was not as severe in it’s MR (mortality rate) than Alpha or Beta. I would be currently on the watchout for NeoCov to see if it mutates enough to jump from bats to humans which requires significant mutations on multiple levels of that virus.
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Margaret Dertesi
3 days ago
I think some governments are recognizing public sentiment and are getting in early so it looks as though their reduction in restrictions was their own idea and not forced.
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GJW
3 days ago
Awesome Interview. Dr Camilla’s approach shows what can be done when the modelling is not politicised.

Cath
3 days ago
Sensible decision. And yet, in Italy, Austria and Germany there are the new mandates and draconian rules. Fascism hasn’t faded much over the intervening years, apparently.
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V G
3 days ago
There has been much damage to economies, individual livelihoods as a result of this so called modelling. In Australia we continue with vaccine passport mandates and a division in our society as a result of all the mandates. The promotion of fear as a result of the modelling by our governments and MSM has been overwhelming and continues to this day. Some of the modelling numbers of infections and deaths that has been reported has been absolutely in ridiculous, yet our government has based the restrictions on this modelling. This has been so very damaging.
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Corina
3 days ago (edited)
This is wonderful news. Does it mean we can now visit Denmark without vax certificate and tests?
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Amazing Philippines
Amazing Philippines
2 days ago
Great discussion and interview. Thanks. Here in the Philippines, I believe almost everyone I know, their families and coworkers have had the Omicron symptoms for a week or so, cold/mild flu type. No medical treatments that I know of. People recover and go on with life.
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anonjan82
3 days ago (edited)
One thing I noticed that she said they worked with a large group of different experts from different universities. This is a big difference from the Netherlands were a small group of similar experts from a government agency who got it dead and dead wrong all the time uptill now.
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WeiWuWei
8 hours ago (edited)
In the UK the modellers were asked by the politicians to fit their models to their policies.
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Andrew Smith
3 days ago
Another good one Freddie!
If only you were in charge of BBC news and this lady replaced Imperial’s professor pants-down Neil Ferguson we would all have had a much better pandemic!
Please keep up the great work.
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Dean Thompson
3 days ago
Thank you, Ms. Moller and Mr. Sayers, for an excellent interview. It was very well explained and very rational. I would agree to have Ms. Moller and the group come to the US, and help the CDC, NIH. Mr. Sayers, this is one of an excellent series of interviews. My best to the UnHerd team. Take Care. Stay Safe.
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staninjapan07
2 days ago
Well done, Mr. Sayers.
A very nicely put together interview.
Neither sensational nor downplayed.
And how the Danish put we British to shame in terms of interviews in a 2nd language.

109PokerFace
1 day ago (edited)
Great guest! We desperately need people with her level of intelligence here in Canada!
All we have here are totalitarian psychopaths that have no understanding of science or statistics.

Beertus
3 days ago
Wow! Looks like Denmark has good data and competent researchers, unlike the Netherlands
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Lynn Geek
3 days ago (edited)
After hearing the difference between England’s and Denmark’s models, is AI being used in either model?
England’s failure to correctly model the course of its Covid pandemic may be due to the continued influence of Professor Neil Ferguson and his wildly incorrect initial model. Just because he resigned in disgrace doesn’t mean that he didn’t continue to influence the modelers.
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Becky Bolding
2 days ago
Great news! I recently had a positive test but I’ve had colds much worse than that virus. Chills, fatigue, and nasal stuffiness and that was it!

winstonsmasterplan
3 days ago
The question is if it’s ethical to use these models to install fear into people to change behaviour
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Marion
3 days ago
Wonderful presentation! Thank you, Freddie! Keep up the great work.
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Gulnar Kulybekova
3 days ago
Thanks. Good to learn by other countries.Would be great to ask from modeling groups about the reason of higher infections in highly vaccinated countries versus less vaccinated countries with early treatment were advised? Why these modeling group can not offer other modeling based on other options?
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Madelaine Morch
3 days ago
There is severe illness from the vaccine as well! Denmark has a very high level of vaccinated, the ever highest level of cases and the excess mortality ( raw numbers of death from all causes compared to projection based on previous years)significant highest in 2021. Natural immunity remains the important difference in my opinion and I don’t understand why Denmark chose to vaccinated the children.
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Alina Ishmurzina
Alina Ishmurzina
2 days ago
Wow! so good to hear some common sense finally appearing through the covid fog. Thank you, Freddie!

parallelworldsguy
3 days ago
This is the first expert statement I’ve heard that the latest Omicron variant, while more contagious, is actually less pathogenic than the first Omicron variant. Great news, the pandemic is on the ropes!
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A word from the wise
A word from the wise
2 days ago
Our EU country said: “Now Austria has mandatory vaccination, we will have to follow”. But now Denmark has ended all covid laws, our country has not yet said “we will have to follow Denmark”…
Kudos to all the wise people!
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Mark Lopez
3 days ago
You are a great interviewer! And thank you for having a common sense approach!
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Bart Vanraes
2 days ago
We can only hope they are right.
I’m lucky to live in Belgium and our wave is a little bit behind on Denmark, so we can learn from them.
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Peter Azlac
3 days ago
You should have asked whether any funding from Bill Gates or Pfizer was involved with any members of the Danish modeling group like there is with Imperial College
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Greg Abbott
3 days ago
Great interview. Very good insights into the world of epidemiology modelling!

Jo Watts
3 days ago
And yet more restrictions are being introduced here in Italy from Feb 1! I don’t understand how they can continue to justify them?!
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conny lake
1 day ago
A breath of fresh air in this atmosphere of asphyxiating paranoia and fear.
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Tom
21 hours ago
One can only hope the common sense shown by Denmark comes to crazy places like Canada, New Zealand and Western Australia!
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Mar kor
11 hours ago
High case numbers are not an issue if people don’t end up in hospital or seriously ill. Governments need to release their citizens and stop dictating. Let people get on with their lives
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Stephanie Olsen
2 days ago
She’s brilliant. I think she was doing what her highest sense of right was guiding her to do.

Karl w
1 day ago
If only more modelers were like this. I have a feeling that in most of the western world the general starting point with these people is “covid bad”.

Bruno
3 days ago
Well Freddie, good interview as usual. I admire your diplomatic touch because when I talk to my danish friends and seen from Sweden at the time, all wasn’t well in the danish kingdom.
For one thing, Mette Fredriksen the PM, lied a hell of a lot. Borders didn’t have to be closed and she was advised not to. It was an entire political and populist decision along the Norwegian lines.
Now…..are the Danes right to lift all measures ? You bet !! And for one reason. As much as the Danes might good obedient citizens, there would be a time where no one would follow any kind of restrictions.
The Swedes, who do not turn this pandemic into a political show, understood it from day one.
Time will tell if they were right or wrong. I wish them to be right because, if not, the lockdown Krampus in France will have a field day trying to lock us down.
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Circus 11
2 days ago (edited)
This is a very interesting interview , thank you very much. I am writing from Germany, where many people are becoming more and more desperate because the government does not dream of ending the strict rules. Instead, people continue to be frightened and it is claimed – despite insufficient data – that we are not sufficiently vaccinated. Children have to wear masks even in the schoolyard and, depending on how hysterical their parents are, are hardly allowed to meet other children. People in Germany have not been allowed to sing for 2 years. We have students who have not sung a single song in school since they started school.
We have a health minister whose fear (before SARS-Cov-2 came into our lives) of eating salt was great enough to talk about it in several interviews. It is sick.
The scientists who did the modeling for us were regularly off the mark in much the same way as GB.
The population no longer has confidence in its government – on both sides: those in favor of strict measures and those who feel locked in.
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B.E. Lewis
3 days ago
Freddie is being very diplomatic asking how “Different groups of modelers can come up with such divergent things.” But at some point the obvious has to be addressed, which is that it’s irresponsible to come up with drastically inaccurate “things” in your modeling. You don’t get an A for effort in science. Only for correct results.
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Boomdiada.
3 days ago
Thank you for a rational discussion based on Science and facts. Much appreciated.
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Mofenyi Choma
3 days ago
I think Denmark made the right choice. For the next video I would like to suggest that you speak about mandatory policies being implemented in many South African Universities. I would also like to hear more about what African countries are doing now.
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FrühbisSpät TV
10 minutes ago
Mr. Sayers, you do an incredible job as an interviewer.
And you had a great guest today.

z
3 days ago
It’s nearly two years late.
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Barun Mitra
2 days ago
A very good discussion bringing out the significance of Transparency and Trust as the key elements in any public policy discourse, such as the pandemic. Both Denmark and Sweden illustrated it. Unfortunately, many governments chose to sacrificed transparency and people responded by mistrusting the government agencies.

Naoko1875
3 days ago
I really appreciate your work on this channel. It’s always refreshing to listen to people who argue just based on common sense.

Alistair Clark
1 day ago (edited)
This is great! I just hope China doesn’t continue to release more variants. We need to seriously consider this is intentional biowarfare and is far from over. I wish our Canadian government would speak honestly and sensibly without predicting with bias.

Jan Hemmer
2 days ago
As for the evolution of a virus, it was Pasteur in the 19th century noticing that the virulence of a virus also depended of the route it takes through different species.
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gerafina li
1 day ago
The inaccurate modelling of many countries could be based on the inaccuracies of the data collected. Especially when many countries can not differentiate people in hospital because of Covid and people in hospital with Covid.

Ken Van de Burgt
3 days ago
Modeling of COVID has the same problem as the climate change claptrap. The climate model projections are profoundly wrong when compared to empirical data yet the government policies continue to be made on the basis of the models. GIGO models are not helpful.
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Shawn Eavis
1 day ago
God bless Denmark! Hopefully Canada and other countries will follow suit!

S Verhulst
3 days ago
This is what ethical and independent journalism should look like.
Something that the MSM has miserably failed to do so, the last 2 years !
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Lolita Tudayan
3 days ago
Leaders around the world pushing for vaccine mandates should follow Denmark’s good example!

Barb A
3 days ago
Unheard, you are a light in the window for the weary. Thank you for the hope offered through such thorough journalism and interviews.
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Tudor Arter
4 hours ago
Excellent interview.Questions polite but pointed. Critique of UK modellers and their predictions discreet and yet quite damning!

Lance Lickfold
2 days ago
In April of 2020, Professor Michael levitt ( who won a Nobel prize for his modeling) came out with weekly reports showing how wrong the modeling of Professor Ferguson was, he was censored, ridiculed and told to “two the line”.
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MyThoughts
2 days ago
Thank you Freddie. She really is not committing herself one way or the other. Does not want to say natural immunity is stronger than vaccine immunity (although data shows that). She does not want to say anything really outright… So yes, for a country that is much colder for much longer than US for instance, I think Denmark is either brave or reckless. Time will tell.
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adventure_photo
3 days ago
None of the variants have been serious enough to justify anything that has occurred over the last two years.
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John Awakening
10 hours ago
Thanks again Freddy. Not many of the commentators from the UK appeal to me from the point of view of; content, level of discussion and level of clarity of thought. There only really seems to be you and Peter Whittle who can produce this quality of balanced and intelligent discussions.
This is another super job, I look forward to your future presentations.
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Annafaith
3 days ago (edited)
A lovely Doctor, its heart warming to hear some one of her position speak common sense, and refreshing to learn the team she works with are objective in their data modeling without bias and without bringing politics into it. Please can we change Governments with the UK for Denmark. If only. (sigh)

A. Leeman
2 days ago (edited)
Thanks Freddie Sayers for a really good interview!
It shows, beyond doubt, how modelers in other European countries are strongly (negatively) biased by political contexts, instead of aiming for pragmatic data evaluation. Maybe we can even call those other modelers fraudulent, as they apparently serve a political purpose instead of a scientific one..
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Nathalie Veilleux
2 days ago
Bravo to the Denmark country! Everybody should follow your lead! Here in Canada with the “Freedom Convoy 2022” things are starting to turn around. Hoping that other countries will follow the Denmark and the Canada will follow as well. God bless you all who are trying to end this nonsense.

greenbank
2 hours ago
Brilliant interview, brilliant Dr Holten-Moller. Great questions Freddie.

Stefan Schuepfer
3 days ago
Cases cannot be compared, because the actual numbers are a multiple of the tested one, especially with Omicron
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Lisa Knudson LCSW
Lisa Knudson LCSW
1 day ago
Sensible policy from a trustworthy govt. Sigh…if only the U.S., Australia, Israel and others countries would follow suit.

Tlb
2 days ago
This is heartwarming, thank you Denmark love from Australia
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James Smith
3 days ago (edited)
Asking one modeler to assess another person’s model and to keep laboring this is crass.
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Sara Σοφία
3 days ago
This woman seems like a great scientist! Thank you for your service!

Mark Harding
1 day ago
Modelling has limited usefulness, in that models can only use the existing understanding of the phenomena. Any errors in the model, including inputs, but also the intrinsic mechanisms that the model uses to generate the output, can cause the output to be erroneous and these errors can often be non-linear. The perfect model is impossible to produce and if it could would likely involve creating a duplicate of the universe and running that simulation in real time, which is not particularly practical.
That given, the modelers who create more accurate models, as defined by being a better fit to the actual observed data, should be applauded and rewarded and the modelers who produced wildly inaccurate models should be stood aside. A natural evolution of models would then occur whereby the erroneous models would be pushed out by better models. The better models should be made available to the modeling community such that they can be “improved” by a wide range of modelers, and the evolutionary process repeated where the improved models survive and the lesser are discarded. As it stands, the modelers in the UK and Australia (who largely use the UK model as I understand it) should discard their models completely as they are clearly unfit for use. They would do well to learn from the Danish approach.
This would, however, be a very difficult task, in that it would require modelers to abandon their models (if they are found lacking). Some of these models have been worked on for many years and have huge investments of time and effort and ego. Such a radical approach may be too much to accomplish. But, if any area could do it, epidemiological modeling surely would be a good one as there is a large upside to cooperation and limited pressures against cooperation (there aren’t, or at least shouldn’t be, particularly large financial or political forces preventing it).
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sosaysthecaptain
3 days ago (edited)
So glad she had a change of heart, but permission from the government to live your life isn’t good enough. These tyrants need to be stripped of power, and measures must be put in place so that nothing like this can ever happen again.
This lady and her bosses belong in prison.
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Diane Bode
Diane Bode
2 days ago
Yea, Denmark. Heart to heart, mind to mind, we can reach out and help each other creatively.
Reach out to help Canada. What the Canadian Truckers and all the Canadians supporting them deserve all of our support worldwide. THANK YOU!
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drum2be I Markus Gerlach
3 days ago
Great Interview! Don’t forget, live is risky and ends: smoking, drinking, driving, sports, household,… And don’t understimate your natural immune system,-). In the meantime we should focus on a daily human, peaceful and joyful life here and now. Because that’s all there ever is.
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mowen0yuriko
3 days ago
Denmark uses models to inform health authorities whereas UK models are designed to increase fear among the general public
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Karl Juhnke
1 day ago
Slowly, ever slowly common sense makes a comeback. Let us hope this continues.

mark hughes
14 hours ago
Requoting Dr. Lynn Flynn
‘For the first time in history we can transmit a disease that we don’t have to a person who is immunised.’
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Josh Eastwold
3 days ago
Freddie is a freaking star, and Dr. Holten-Møller is an amazing guest; a perfect model for others in public health communication.
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Henk V
2 days ago
Thank you, I think much less of modelers these days, considering. I am glad to see some modelers still have integrity. The standard should be to see who hits the mark consistently and continue to use these academics compared to the “let’s do (use) the same thing hoping for a different result.”

Jackie Wakeham
3 days ago
We must talk about natural immunity as normal and better than vaccine
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Frederick Swartzendruber
2 days ago
Accurate modeling and forecasting = less panic and more reasonable recommendations by health authorities. In the US, models have to take into account that over half the population is diabetic or prediabetic.
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James Laver
1 day ago
Could it be Denmark’s ability to perform accurate modelling has something to do with the fact as a small country they weren’t given a seat at the pandemic “lockstep” planning that preceded the actual pandemic and therefore their modelling was not subject to the prescribed erroneous methodologies? Call me cynical but that’s how I interpret it.
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bzdtemp
2 days ago
It is almost to see those that suggest that Denmark ending corona restrictions, shows that restrictions have been unnecessary and even oppressive ie. abuse of power. Those people totally ignore that had Denmark not had restrictions and also population following medical experts, then many many more Danish lives would have been lost and likely many thousands Danes would suffering from long term or permanent health damages due to COVID.
That things have not been so bad in Denmark is a clear demonstration that restrictions have been necessary and effective, any one suggesting otherwise need look no further than to countries that did not get restrictive from day one and that have not run effective testing including requiring test/vaccine/immunity passports.
In Denmark we have had 647 Covid fatalities per million people, the number for Sweden is 1,562, for the UK it is 2,275 and for the US it is 2,724 deaths per million.
The numbers show restrictions work, the numbers are obvious and should be so even for those that do not wanna admit it is so.
The US number of deaths is btw. shocking because they had the chance to do much better than any European nation, COVID spread here sooner than in the US and also the US had a head starts with the vaccines only they messed up and are keeping to do so in many states. The US is far behind when it comes to being vaccinated, but even more importantly there is to many not following science and they are paying for it – the US is on the way to a million COVID deaths.
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John Wilhelm
3 days ago
Freddie, your program is always so refreshingly intelligent. We could also use that Professor from Denmark in the USA…..
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Joris Bolhuis
1 day ago
Very nice insights into the specifics of how she and her colleagues took into account individual behavior and the depletion effect. Also the very localized informing and advising is really insightful. Unfortunately, Dutch media only portray Denmark as: “the Danes did listen to their government, our people never do”. Instead, people in power should focus more on individuals being able to think for themselves and give good unbiased information to let them make choices.
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Jean Dixon
3 days ago
Next up – climate change mandates.
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Laura Dimama
Laura Dimama
2 days ago
Interesting how nervous “experts” get about natural immunity and yet are so confident in a new technology injection that we are seeing has waning immune protection per the data. And with more injections the immunity is shorter duration and increase risk of negative efficacy.
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MyLil Ramey
3 days ago
I applaud Denmark for having people external to the politics of the country involved in the modeling.
It is tragic that there are too many perverse incentives in some countries, especially the US where I live, to keep this pandemic alive. The degree of fear-mongering and mandatory actions that are unwarranted based on the data combined with the silence of the medical community is like nothing I’ve ever seen in 30 years as a healthcare professional.
I can only pray that Denmark will lead the way for other countries and our attention will turn to where this virus came from. And so many respects I believe the hysteria of the numbers is a convenient destruction to investigation of the truths.
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CaitoKal
2 days ago
I am looking forward to the day where Australia gets to this point. We are going the other way….
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M. Bouanane
3 days ago (edited)
SAGE’ modellers have recognised they were making models the government asked for. No other argument could explane why so enormous difference between UK & DK models, two close countries and cultures. And many other EU countries – at least FR – have believed in UK’s models and were prepared for the worst scenario thru imposing more restrictions…
In one case it was a political model, while in the other case, it was a mathematical model.
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Steve Smith
2 days ago
Instead of treating us like adults we were treated like idiots and had to have the scariest numbers to make us comply. And yet many people are still wearing masks in supermarkets while you can go into a crowded pub without one and that was the case throughout December and January!

David Barry
3 days ago
Not a UK citizen, but there still seems to be a lot of conflation of responsibility between modelers’ model results, and how the govt and media (BBC etc.) pick and choose the most alarmist version to present to the public. Modelers always present a range of possible forecasts, given that they are dealing with huge unknowns. Government response has to take into account the possibility that the worst cases MAY occur. Media reporting though – they’re just in it for the most sensational option possible; i.e. whatever will get the greatest number of readers/viewers – and they tend to de-emphasize (or fully ignore) the nuances.
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Mary Hudson
3 days ago
As ever, a first-class conversation!
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Vela Vilina
2 days ago (edited)
All i can say is that she was “very diplomatic” all the way! The other thing: “vaccines are great” when all true scientists talking about something totally different! We will see in time how great this gene therapy was actually.
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Clifford Cobsilen
2 days ago
It’s elating to know about this. Hope other countries follow.

SapphireStone
2 days ago
It’s interesting cause in my area it actually appeared to be the vaccinated that were infected first with omicron and in much larger quantity of infection, and then the non-vacccinated seemed to be infected by vaccinated people. Regardless though we certainly have herd immunity now, the vast amount of the population have had it.

Joe Shmoe
2 hours ago
Our ‘modeling’ in Canada was SOOOOOOOOOO far off as to be a total joke. Provincial numbers never reached the entire country’s numbers. The focus should have been on the truly vulnerable. Destroying my small business did not save 1 single life…..

Stan Weaver
1 day ago
It’s good to have some logical discussion being aired.
But it really just makes it so glaringly apparent how deficient logic has been ever since we had enough information to know roughly what the situation was.
In my country they are vigorously pushing the present ineffective shots for groups who have never become ill.?
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Lesley Hobbs
2 days ago
Congratulations Freddie – brilliant and refreshing interview.

Iga 27
3 days ago
better late than never
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Jen
3 days ago
all governments SHOULD LEARN from DENMARK
grateful to unherd for covering this

Dan L
2 days ago
Now its time to make sure that those that pushed this whole insanity do not get away without answering for their actions

santy asanuma
2 days ago
This one of the smartest move in way forward in dealing with Covid19. Kudos to Denmark

Kate
1 day ago
Way to go. Let’s hope Canada follows this
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Nadine Tasmania
2 days ago
Brilliant interview, good reporting and sensible information. Thank you!

dabrupro
3 days ago
A prescription is the end of a process that involves describing, which is continual.
Narcissistic prescriptionism seems to be the prevailing thought pattern
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Herman Seabird
2 days ago
Oh my Gawd! There is hope in this world! This is history in the making by logically thinking leaders and a Humane government.
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Sooraj Subramaniam
2 days ago
At the risk of being unpopular, could the probability of higher degree of ‘common sense’ and societal compliance be because the population of Denmark is far more culturally and politically homogenous than say places like the USA and the UK? They also enjoy a greater standard of living, I assume, so people feel less boxed in by their governments?
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Believe URHappy
2 days ago
Excellent work from Denmark. Hopefully Australia will catch on soon and follow suit.

Alistair Williams
2 days ago
You need to remember its a smaller country with less immigration and congestion. The PPM (parts per million) would be a factor as the UK has more cities of larger scale so a coefficient factor has a bigger impact on a larger society in totally. Nice report, John Campbell is doing some good work on following the epidemic too.

Rael Sackey
2 days ago
Denmark was the colonial “master” of the islands from which I hail(US Virgin Islands). The USA bought the islands in 1917. Most people thought that was great. As a Progressive, I think we would be better off today. Most natives never enjoyed the individual economic wealth of the US, and experienced debilitating immigration and subsequent overpopulation from people wanting to live in a US territory. The most important thing is, we do not have a Progressive government.
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Ray Greenwood
3 days ago (edited)
no, there are still restrictions for unjabbed. we require a negative test yet the jabbed dont, we can all see the data that the jabbed are getting greater number/%of omicon infections than unjabbed. its not over
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Bobbie Jay
3 days ago
Australia here … so different from our experience here. The quality of our advisors is on notice by the public. Very conservative thinking here. Healthy society, bravo Denmark. Our Princess Mary made the right move

marian lynch
3 days ago
Thank you to England…you started the ball rolling in these islands….and here in Ireland we followed you. You were the leader..
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Z
2 days ago
Good for you! Hope our morons in Canadian government and Ontario can see it the way you do and give us back our freedom. I am sick of living in a prison.

Nkosi K
2 days ago
wonderfully informative interview, very insightful, wish SA would go the same route as Denmark

Bisbo Nian
1 day ago
Denmark is not pushing an agenda, but rather giving the public a realistic view of the situation.

dumb dumber
3 days ago
This was a very interesting interview. Thanks for posting. ALL political parties agreeing. Unherd of in modern times.
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David price
2 days ago
My wife and I live in Nicaragua. Nicaragua was one of the last to close its borders. And that was because there was absolutely no way to get in. Nicaragua never closed schools and never closed business. The hospitals here are free so the hospitals are always full. Nicaragua had a higher amount of deaths in April,May and June. Things slowed down in July of 2020 and the hospitals or clinics never had the excess deaths again. I truly believe we got herd immunity. The public transportation never stopped and they pack them in. Some schools the kids wear masks and some doesn’t. I think the only reason this Administration changed some things is pressure from the world bank. The bank was paying all of the countries in Central America. The only thing hurting Nicaragua is no tourist. It has devastated business.
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Linda Zerr
3 days ago
Denmark is also mobilizing a Freedom 2022 convoy, like Canada.
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Abhi Anand
Abhi Anand
2 days ago
Denmark is opening up because they are humble enough to silently admit all their restrictions FAILED. They have the highest case rates; even compared to rates in Africa or SE Asia, mRNA countries have high rates of infections. Needs to be looked into

Egil Bru Overaa
3 days ago
Did Danmark go into lockDown in march 2020 after receiving a analysis report from Norway? How was the quality of the analysis assessed?
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Brian O’Flynn
3 days ago
Excellent interview, both well prepared , Dr Camilla very well informed

Nana Browne
3 days ago
So proud of UK and Denmark, hope the Netherlands is next!

batcryalok
3 days ago
Lots of people want to be taken care of and don’t want to think for themselves. Government can easily control them via care and scare.
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Glenn Mitchell
3 days ago (edited)
It would be interesting to see a similar analysis and explanation of leading (and/or competing) climate change models.
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Marc Turmel
Marc Turmel
2 days ago
Great interview, good to see common sense slowly coming back…

d2
2 days ago
Humble, knowledgable and fine. Denmark knows how to make statisticians.

Roeland L.C. Heijting
3 days ago
Modelling is very difficult. As my final work was about simulation of chemical processes in industrial systems I know what I’m talking about, I know that one of the most important issues is to adapt your model continuously to make it fit to the old data. Only like this you can predict, with new influences like a new variant of a virus, the future in a useable way. That is what is missing in many countries.
A last question is the influence of certain measurements and vaccination on reality and how they inputted this in the Danish model, as we see quite some statistical analysis which show the marginal to none effect on the epidemic flow. I would love to go through this with the Danish modelling group.
Thanks for this positive video.
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Margareta Laine
13 hours ago
Congratulations to Denmark, Camilla ,for Teamworking, Seqvenserat, Small
Country
You won over Sweden Deathrates is Facit!

Flick Schmitt
2 days ago
Pleease send this educated and sensible lady to Australia for our all our sakes!
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Simon Edge
3 days ago
I’m not form the UK, but I’m curious…
Can the UK make these progressive policy decisions RE COVID now because they are not tethered to the EU anymore?
(I mean it looks like countries like France, Germany & Austria are going into full-on “1984” mode whereas UK is a bit of a ray of light…)
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Tanya Edwards
Tanya Edwards
3 days ago
According to travel restrictions, it seems that people still need to show passports, unvaccinated people need to quarantine for up to 10 days? Or have the restrictions not been updated with this latest brilliant news?
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Dark Knight
3 days ago
I was with her until she started advocating for the jabs
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Miriam Tuazon
2 days ago
So at the end of the broadcast, the lovely Danish expert very diplomatically stated that Danish people’s common sense indeed was common enough that people willingly changed their behaviours before further restrictions had to be instituted by the government. Much respect to the Danish people!
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Janine de Villiers
2 days ago
Yes, I believe they made the right decision. It does not sound like Denmark would make rash decisions. And I’m sure they will closely monitor anything of concern that may arise, and adjust. South Africa was ignored.
It would be great if she would have been in Germany too! Thank you both for the interview.
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Dutch Super Empath
3 days ago
Yes. Indeed. I wouldn’t go partying when people are dying on the streets.
Let people think for themselves. It makes us better people.
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Kilikina
3 days ago (edited)
Great news! Denmark leading the World in intelligence and sanity. Thank you!

The Spitfirer
1 day ago
Happy for the Danes but such heartbreaking to watch as here in Italy restrictions are being tightened again…

didanz100
3 days ago
I would like to know what cycle threshold they are using for the PCR test
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Ajmal khan Achakzai
Ajmal khan Achakzai
3 days ago
Seems like Denmark has no politics involved in corona virus management. Very sensible and knowledgeable doctor
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Crystal Marie
Crystal Marie
3 days ago
Kudos to ! May all countries follow suit. Keep up the good fight! Freedom over fear!

Johanna Barry
3 days ago
Gosh if I was a member of the SAGE modeling group I would be feeling very embarrassed. Can we sack the lot and get some of the money paid to them back. They are either charlatans or utterly incompetent.
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Nick L
2 days ago
A sad indictment on the modelling community in the UK who have blatantly been manipulating fear mongering to out compete each other.

John Birman
2 days ago
Covid Restrictions “Death Nell” basically Ended when the Supreme Court of the USA said: “No!”
The Decision “herd” (Heh Heh) around the world.
It was similar to that little boy crying out: “Look! The Emperor has no clothes on!”
Once again, for all Her faults the United States Of America has proven Herself.
Well done Denmark – the Viking Blood still flows!
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Amber Lee Sealey
2 days ago
They keep the door open for new variants though, don’t they! Let’s keep the fear happening
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Bernadette LaFave
3 days ago
Great discussion !! Thank you for this informative interview …. Wonderful news about the lifting of restrictions in Denmark !!

loloqueen87
3 days ago
I’m so impressed with the type of Journalism unHerd represents.

James Fitzgerald
3 days ago
Great podcast … as always. UnHerd is one of my faves.

Marie C
1 day ago
Can Dr Camilla come to the Philippines, too? We have gorgeous beaches and unlimited fresh coconuts! Thank you, Freddie Sayers for featuring her and for your thoughtful questions.

boxsterbenz
3 days ago
love the way that you ask your questions. greatly informative. have followed you channel since mid-2020. thank you.

Alfred Reithermann
3 days ago (edited)
Bit Bloody late…And why the Jab the Kids…. disgraceful…Next time, let the Virologists, NOT the bloody “Modellers”, run things..
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KMY
2 days ago
Every journalist in America should watch and listen this guy 23 hours a day and then do their reporting for 1 hr.

recent football nirvana
3 days ago
Freedom is at stake California woke should be taken as a comedy
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DJ
3 days ago
This is just so wonderful to hear. Such a calm and measured conversation. Comparatively here in Australia, we have hysteria, fear and unhinged public servants and medical ‘experts’ driving division, kids with masks at schools, consideration of 4th boosters and that covid control will never end.

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Ken Shackleton
1 day ago
So happy to see this. They make recommendations now, not dictates.

Makumbo Lindo
1 day ago (edited)
I´m a 66 years old person, my wife 67. We never been vaccinated for influenza and corona, we are still alive without any symptoms at all. Motion/exercise, eat good, don´t stress, drink much water, some cup of wine sometimes, that´s all. “be positive and not negative” Good luck.

B McD
3 days ago
Such great questions from Freddie.
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Rose Navan
1 day ago
Yes! very good for such right decision. I hope many countries will be awaken to reality.

jspyrogram
3 days ago
I have not experienced any restrictions where I live. Missouri, USA
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iPhilGood
3 days ago
“The closer the collapse of an Empire, the crazier its laws.”
– Cicero
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Eidolon#
3 days ago (edited)
Maths computer modeling: Building<->studying<->testing ->USE.
Moddeling goal is changing behaviors: “…actually we saw that people try to change their behavior…”, Dr Camilla Holten-Møller.
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Waitaki Orchards
3 days ago
Here in New Zealand I now find myself living in the middle of a red light district surrounded by people scared of spreading disease.

Richard Mulligan
16 hours ago
Fantastic interview – thank you both. I think a major factor with Denmark and other Scandinavian countries is their transparency with how they arrive at their decisions and the governments are less inclined to bash people with a big stick to do what they want them to do. This results in much more trust in the public health system and what they are saying – i mean how often do advisors in other countries admit they have made mistakes…
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Michelle Bistrup
1 day ago
This needs to happen worldwide

AjitB07
3 days ago
They did not end them all, some still need testing
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J
3 days ago
Bravo! Done with demonstration. Proud of you Denmark.
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Angela Bobanna
Angela Bobanna
2 days ago
New variants can change this in a heartbeat. And to quote a world renowned virologist “name a virus that has become LESS virulent?”
The vaccine has made this infection less severe for most not the virus.

Baby Tho.
2 days ago
Only one mandate to enforce “those who are symptomatic like cough, sneeze, runny nose etc. must use masks”

Adrian Ryan
2 days ago
It isn’t true that Delta was more severe. Wave 2 (Northern Hemisphere winter) took the highest toll of deaths in the UK. Delta did not appear until the Summer of 2021 and in total has a much smaller death toll.

Sue Edwards
2 days ago
If only other governments would see the logic of this. If they can do this, why can’t everywhere else.

VerySeriousUser
3 days ago
After a quick glance on the mortality with covid numbers for Denmark it seems weird that they suddenly did the opposite to what they thought was so important 2 years ago. Deaths now are more than during the initial wave. I have to rewatch it because I did not really understand her argument for just getting rid of all the measures, when looking at the numbers.
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Zeb Mason
Zeb Mason
2 days ago
Epidemics don’t grow exponentially otherwise they would break the laws of Mathematics. I don’t think any modeller would assume exponential growth as none of their models would reproduce it.

JC
3 days ago
Denmark and UK are doing the right actions. Here in Australia, God help us. @Dan andrews …..
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Dennis Enkurs
Dennis Enkurs
3 days ago
You guys are using common sense with this. God bless you with wisdom and understanding

Dave Walter
3 days ago
As the British statistician George Box is alleged to have said: “All models are wrong, but some are useful.” Seems like Denmark ended up with the useful models and the UK with the same garbage modelling they have been getting since at least Mad Cow days.

Casa del Agua Gerald Webb
1 day ago
What’s interesting..is, she refers always to an epidemic rather than a pandemic!

Nina L
2 days ago
Unherd do have many high quality interviews, Freddie is great.

GlobalRoamer
3 days ago
We need this lady here in Australia
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Tom Karnes
3 days ago
Let me get this straight we can have an open society only after we flatten the curve, I want a debate with Deloris Cahill, she will flatten your head
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Gary Rockliff
3 days ago
The healthcare system runs more effectively than other developed countries, such as the U.S. and other European countries. For instance, experts attribute low mortality in Denmark to its healthcare success. Health expenditure is high in Denmark, as the country spends 10.3% of its GDP on healthcare services.9 July 2020

Lee Court
3 days ago
Always such great questions Freddie
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earthflute
21 hours ago
Case numbers should NEVER have been used to determine policy. So what, people get sick all the time from flu, pneumonia, etc.. don’t care. Treat the symptoms.
You should be interested in the impact on medical systems and of course deaths.
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Rommel Lagera
3 days ago (edited)
I always ask in comments if there are any model that say, at least with high probability, that this pandemic will end using current vaccines with given current rate of mutations. If none, why do majority of countries continue with policies that support such non existant model. Denying unvaccinated access to public transportation or restaurant are only expensive to implement but with unclear objectives and plausible results.
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daryl foster
3 days ago
Wow, if you’re sick, stay home. How profound. Seems like that was known as common sense, pre-Covid.
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ToonLinksDair
3 days ago
What information is there about Omicron and long covid? There are 1.3 million people in the UK with long covid. Just because deaths and hospitalisations are low does not mean that you can’t end up being unwell for months on end.
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HALLELUJAH PG
HALLELUJAH PG
3 days ago
I AM VERY VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THIS GOOD NEWS:GOD BLESS DENMARK
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Kurt Groat
3 days ago
Denmark and the rest of the Western world is opening up (slowly sometimes). Meanwhile in Zero COVID China the nightmare continues.
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Scott Watrous
3 days ago
This presentation would be more than sufficient to cause a grand jury to indict the relevant British authorities. That is also the case for the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. These nations are known as the English speaking world or variously the 5 eyes nations. Saying the latter reminds me that Bibi Netanyahu in a public forum stated Israel is the 6th eye and strongly implied that Israel ranked second in terms of intelligence capabilities. And we know how Israel has proceeded. Thank you Freddy and thank you to the Danish woman. If she contacted Danish ministries for permission to be so candid thank you to those officials as well.
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tudomerda
1 day ago
I’d like to ask that Expert why there wasn’t a lockdown nor any travel restrictions for countries with Ebola ?, not once was there a international embargo on any of those countries, Ebola has a 100% mortality rate.

Ruth Longridge
3 days ago
So now it appears that the whole thing was a way to stamp authority on the situation, in readiness for next time….
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C Forester
2 days ago
Great interview. Thumbs up to both interviewer and interviewee.

Kaj Jensen
2 days ago (edited)
As a danish citizen, i just have to say, that the statistical models that has been used for political decision making in Denmark has previously been HIGHLY overshooting the consequences of dropping restrictions, -e.g. this spring when masks were put down, the models suggested a “disaster”, which did not happen. So I believe, that with the most conservative models, -we are now on the safe side. The models have also in Denmark been outrageously wrong (to the preventive side), but as also said in the interview, there are so many parameters to be entered as input to such models that they have so far been quite un-useful (but used anyways by the politicians !!!!), and one should probably rather base future political decisions based on something else, -at least until a couple of years has passed, and the models are tuned into reality.
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Tony Conrad
10 hours ago
I am glad we were exposed to Omicron in our house over Christmas. I think the immunity will be better than from a vaccine personally.
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Gustav Skans
2 days ago
Finally. They are becoming more like Sweden as we have never had lockdown or face mask mandates.

Renier du Plessis
1 day ago
Policies on Public health can not be dictated to by a single disease. Legislation for one disease will impact the outcome of other health factors.

Mel BBB
2 days ago
thank you for speaking truth! In Canada we are still being lied to, i don’t understand it
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Patricia Delaney
3 days ago
Impeccable interview, as always
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N. David Miller
3 days ago (edited)
Is it conspiratorial to recognize that more alarming predictions profit all of those who are connected to pharmaceutical companies or benefit from their money? Come now, let’s not be coy.
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HighOnHill
1 day ago
One possible explanation for Denmark getting it so right when the UK got it so wrong is CHANCE. Maybe they just got lucky.

Gail
3 days ago
I wish she would come over the vast Atlantic Ocean ( via the internet of course) to the USA and tell them that they are wrong with what they are doing to its citizens and that they need to use their common sense from this day forward to end this pandemic!

Richard S
3 days ago
That’s a smart human there, absolutely measured responses, won’t speak about things they aren’t informed about, doesn’t pretend there are any simple soundbite responses.
Freddy sure fished for some moments but she absolutely stayed on target.
The question Freddy should have asked is ‘How can we in England learn from you and the way your politicians and science data modellers understand epistemic humility?’
Or something like that
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Paul Badics
3 days ago
Govts in canada & other countries would never acknowledge that population could modify behaviour without laws & mandates

lis t
2 days ago
What fantastic news. Flu, people stay at home, respect your fellow companion if you sneeze or cough use your elbow or tissue. If Denmark can do this please God other countries will follow. People respect your health, exercise, diet love your body it does everything for you, time to heal

David Wensbo Posaric
3 days ago
@29:50 “There doesn’t have to be a law… people have brains…”. We would all benifit from some politicians paying greater attention to this statement.
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Dave Andrews
3 days ago
CDC, NIH, Mayo and the MSM needs to wake up and listen to this! We should be following suit.
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Norman Lorrain
21 hours ago
Are these models open source? I’m interested in how modeling works.

Cinderella De Vil
3 days ago
The CDC published a big data paper supporting natural immunity.
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John Kooy
3 days ago
Another brilliant interview done by Freddie Sayers.
My two Favourite people for today are Camilla and Freddie for sure.
I hope that everything you said today you were allowed to say for you were being very honest there about you British goon squad of modellers.

Pat Nelson
2 days ago
I believe tourists will be flocking to Denmark when the weather warms up.
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Truformable
3 days ago
I am so sceptical about this voluntarily step by Denmark ‘officials’. The statistics says taht 80% of Danish people `took the jab`, so NGO decided to give puppet reward for being good and doing all the commands.
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Studebaker
Studebaker
2 days ago
The Danish government treats its population as intelligent beings, unlike the UK Establishment which treats people as serfs.

Jonnipon
3 days ago
Freddie is the one trying to politice the issue in this interview.
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Birds Aloud
2 days ago
It is great that Denmark scrapped the legal framework which had given the government emergency/dictatorship powers. They are the first European country todo so.

Leigh Cecil
1 day ago (edited)
Wow a government that listens to sound medical advice…! Not like the scaredemic in Australia..! Thankyou for the post

Adam Marr
3 days ago
Meanwhile here in Australia we still walk around like masked zombies towards a vaccine passport cliff.
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Andrew Sheehy
3 days ago
Thank goodness for this – common sense prevails at last.
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Larry Smith
1 day ago
To flatten the curve, flatten corporate-government overreach, something that is not ever going to happen.

Reald
3 days ago
FREEDOM !
Never Comply !
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Sarah Lloyd
Sarah Lloyd
2 days ago
Denmark leaders obviously are sane. Thank You, Denmark!

Charisma Hornum-Fries
3 days ago
So it’s probably fine to get rid of all restrictions. Some of the Danish experts wants the mask to stay around as every case of covid is equal to sick days and that might damage places of work. But we will see after tomorrow.

Shan Rafnezden
3 days ago
How can she still say, ‘you never know who could get severe illness.’ We do know who can get severe illness…

Donna Collingridge
2 days ago (edited)
Yes very good news now Canada should also end all these ridiculous mandates.Over 90% of Canadians have had these shots.Congratulations.
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Ray’s Dad
3 days ago
Yes, the British modelers are fearmongers, and Neil Ferguson is the worst of the worst.
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Anthony Lemkendorf
3 days ago
Congratulations;A blind Squirrel can occasionally run into a nut .
It’s doubtful we’ll ever be able to trust ( in Western Countries)”Government sponsored science”in quiet the same way .
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Andrew Tannenbaum
2 days ago (edited)
10:29 She contradicts her premise that omicron cases are extremely high, but mild. There is a very strong case that they are in fact what will ‘vaccinate’ the population from all variants, going forward. She claims ignorance of this topic, while pushing vaccines.

C St
3 days ago
Dr Camila and Freddie thank you great news Denmark sounds like the place to be

Daniel Hartwig
3 days ago
Good on Denmark lead the world away from lies and mandates ! All governments who took freedom away from citizens need prosecution. Soldiers die for freedom so must politicians and public servants face death for taking freedom from citizens.
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Sunny Jo
19 hours ago
Austria desperately needs to listen to this rational sensible lady!!

Patrick VB
2 days ago
Fabulous guest, great questions also, thank you!!!
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cleve barnes
3 days ago
How many of the hospitalizations in that chart are vaccinated? We need to know because in the US we are being told no vaccinated are in the hospital.
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Commenter
3 days ago
In terms of modeling, not sure if anybody is doing better than Japan, but nice what Denmark has done. What about the travel restrictions?

Spkay
3 days ago (edited)
If only our public servants in the UK could talk to the facts like this!
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Rony Zmiri
2 days ago
Simply an amazing interview with an amazing lady!

Jackie Wakeham
3 days ago
Well done Denmark, sanity at last
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Kennedy San
2 days ago
Interesting, some businesses continuing with vax passport requirements despite no legal mandate….i think these companies would want to be careful.
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Rowena McMahon
14 hours ago
Well Denmark is the place to visit now. Beautiful country!
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Anup Kumar
3 days ago
It is interesting case rising but Denmark is ending restrictions. Why? Although the source is leery to say that. Most likely explanation is the because Omicron is almost like a vaccine at the population level. Sure some may get severe infection but largely it seems Omicron infection at population level is the path to COVID becoming endemic.
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peachmelba1000
3 days ago (edited)
This woman seems nice enough, but honestly I have lost all trust in scientists and doctors at this point. They must never again be granted such sweeping powers as they have been these last two years.
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Mark Cox
Mark Cox
3 days ago
I have only one disagreement with Camilla. I don’t think we need fear future variants. A virus has only one purpose: its own reproduction. Omicron is so successful we probably won’t see a more harmful variant. The great tragedy is that lockdowns probably slowed the progress of the virus towards this mostly harmless form. I would have thought epidemiologists knew this. Camilla’s modelling was accurate nonetheless. And now sanity returns to Denmark. (Why was SAGE so wrong? They had a different agenda.)
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Paulina Pi
2 days ago
This interview was a pleasure to watch! Thanks!

Theo Risoe
1 day ago
Excellent interview but should have asked if she received funding from the Gates Foundation.
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Steve Brown
3 days ago
It would appear that Denmark’s modelers were not under political pressure regarding maintaining a specific narrative.

Jenaya_Laila
2 days ago
Well well..the next more severe variant could, possibly lerk around the corner, but not this summer. Interesting to see if this lady is a fortune teller like so many of these presumed “experts ” are..
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Toto
3 days ago
Does it mean Danemark will be expelled from all social media except Spotify?
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Mia Ash
2 days ago
Well Done to Wonderful/Civilized Denmark!

Larry Go
3 days ago
Excellent interview and presentation. Thank you!

Lisa Fiel
2 days ago
So level headed. Italy Germany France Austria yes come to the same conclusions we are cheering you on

mats trommler
2 days ago
Wonderful that Denmark ends all covid laws. But thats not because of vaccination. We will still will see what the sideeffects will be on the long term.

Paul Badics
3 days ago
Clearly listening to this woman the biggest difference in modelling & policy is ATTITUDE ..UK has history of hysterical models & in Canada every “expert” on the govt science council always predict 10 times worse & always press govt to keep lockdowns & mandates harsher & longer even when case & hospitalizations are down

Nick the bubble
3 days ago
Anyone told the Australian prime minister?
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MARILOU LOO
3 days ago
Highly intelligent and really humanly caring Denmark, your the best.

JuliusSP1
3 days ago (edited)
Hi. i want to tell you all something. the vaccines have set the stage for the NEXT pandemic. I think the damage has been done b/c so many have been administered them and will continue to be administered them freely or by mandate.
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MIJ Greco
1 day ago
Deep down inside she really full of pride at what she has modelled and really wants to say ” look and learn bitches”.

Points HealthCoaching
3 days ago
Thank God that some countries are using their brains and science

Jenaya_Laila
2 days ago
“Open Society “. I can’t believe there are people out there who decide whether we have open societies or not…

Ingrid M.
2 days ago
Thank you very much for this awesome interview.

bruce wayne
1 day ago
“Flatten the curve”? Denmark currently has the U.S. equivalent of 2.2 million cases per day. They are currently averaging the U.S. equivalent of 1000 deaths per day. And just now they decide to end the restrictions? What the hell was the past two years for??????

multitablez
3 days ago
two years too late. so now shes like “oh we model this, so we go back to normal now” she talks like a politician. says a lot without saying anything. Something is not adding up. So today to say no restrictions, but in two months will you model something else and bring back lockdowns etc.
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Hugo Hernandez
3 days ago
Thank you Denmark! Much love and respect from México

Temper Hollow
2 days ago
With our Prime Minister hiding in a bunker (from the Freedom Convoy participants), it is unlikely that Canadians will see these welcome freedoms anytime soon. Good for Denmark.

gx toast
2 days ago
Still no mention of early treatment or even just plain old vitamin D, Zinc, etc. It is mind boggling.
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Leigh Kelly
3 days ago
Hooray A sensible, logical country at last

Patricia Lauria
3 days ago
Yes. There is now hope for other countries.

Yav
3 days ago
That’s basically Sweden since day one of this nonsense…
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Sebastian Gärtner
Sebastian Gärtner
12 hours ago
Well done Denmark!
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Chris T
2 days ago
140 studies agree – natural immunity is both more robust (broader) and longer lasting.
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Catarina SM
3 days ago
There are effective treatments that can help to overcome the surges and be free from further vaccination.

Gilbert Tessier
1 day ago
Great interview! Great interviewer and sensational interviewee! Many thanks!

Candice W Millones
3 days ago
Meanwhile in my state (U.S.A.) kindergarteners are still required to wear masks.
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Darko
3 days ago
Lockdown in Sweden? Where have you got this information from?
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Jennifer Smith
2 days ago
freddie you need to do one on canadian truckers, the true unheard

Lea Nielsen
2 days ago
As a Danish citizen I must say that this whole Corona-situation from inside of Denmark looks very political. We have a parliamentary election coming up within the next year and if the Primeminister’s polling numbers were up, she would have let the restrictions continue without a blink of the eye…. It is all dirty politics!
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Tom Leander
3 days ago
Over 11,000 people in the UK have died of Covid in the last 3 months, still around 1000 deaths per week. Which is considerably more than die on the roads each year.
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Tanne B
1 day ago
Must admit , I am proud of my small country

John
3 days ago
Definitely correct decision every country should do the same let’s get back to living again.

Ze Tristan
3 days ago
What a beautiful person and scientist!
(And Freddie Sayers top level as usual)
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Raph Ael
3 days ago
Incredible.
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Cotictimmy
2 days ago (edited)
What is the view of Stephen Kinnock’s Danish politician wife on this? Labour appears generally to favoured an authoritarian approach lockdown.
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DDUS4
2 days ago
As from the 31st of Jan, a new European law became applicable regarding clinical trials. Informed consent is required and all the restrictions are no longer applicable.
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Bruno Paredes
Bruno Paredes
2 days ago
it points out that modeling without approaching reality is a matter of luck.

Rhonda McKnight
2 days ago
Denmark has universal Healthcare which means healthier population than the USA to start with. Higher vaccine than USA too.

Bing X
3 days ago
So today, in Quebec. We are applying more freaking rules….
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a.l._819
3 days ago
Seriously help Italian Gov become sane again…
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Elaine Brown
Elaine Brown
2 days ago
Oh this was very interesting Freddy. Yes I wish this modeller would be in charge of Sage…
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BC
2 days ago
The UK government is committed to updating the Human Rights Act 1998. I have only heard of this on one YT channel but was able to confirm this through google. They want to “update” it to be able to over ride our rights if we’re naughty and don’t do what we’re told.

F Roy
4 hours ago
Yes it’s all coming down. You made the right decisions.

Sandra Walker
3 days ago
Integrity and honesty will go a long way!
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Nona
Nona
8 hours ago
The last third of the interview is really interesting in terms of the specifics.
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Beverley Saxophone
3 days ago
One thing you didn’t touch was the huge resistance to government policies led by Mads Palsvig who forced their hand in a number of important decisions. It would be interesting to see you interviewing him to hear another side of the story.
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StandAloneState
StandAloneState
3 days ago
Denmark… please openly advocate for other countries to drop their mandates. We desperately need more support
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Edward McLaughlin
Edward McLaughlin
3 days ago
Flatten the curve my fuckin arse.
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wetchickenproduction
2 days ago
That’s what good leadership looks like!
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Lynda Gordon
3 days ago
Excellent news for Dr James and all health care workers. NZ

Guyzer
1 day ago
Detached from political modelling committee…..amazing, mathematical modelling!!

David Ligon
1 day ago
Thank you. Another excellent interview.

wonderland78
2 days ago
Will this affect the vaccine makers’ profits?
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Ralph Reilly
2 days ago
Lol. There was no curve to flatten.
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Candice
3 days ago
Denmark and Mexico: two countries with common sense.

shantibel
3 days ago
Thanks for this marvelous news. Great interview.

Cristiano Holtz
2 hours ago
Great ! Hopefully other European countries will follow ! Our bodies belong to us, it’s no government property ! We decide what to take …or not…

Andrea Lindsay
2 days ago
Time for good common sense. People don’t need mandates, they have a God given rights.

Kika Nika
2 days ago
Dear people, what can I do and how to stop this horror. My 11-year-old daughter wants to get vaccinated, her father persuades her, society forces her, and she almost died of anaphylactic shock because she is allergic to some medications. What a world this is! I no longer see the meaning of life.

Harriet brown
3 days ago
thank you, beautiful people of good will, for this massage
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Martin Clausen
3 days ago
The kind words are appreciated, and while we are happy to flood the Premier League with Danish players, Mrs. Holten-Møller is not for sale.

Gill Gimberg
3 days ago
Ah Freddie that made me laugh. Old Fergie is bonkers, I reckon. And being South African, I have a lot of experience with those who are bonkers.
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Iain Benson
2 days ago
Australia needs to wake up! Western. Australia needs Commonwealth laws to override its Premier’s power grabs…

Thomas Schinkel
3 days ago
Freddie, you’re the best,
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Dragon’s Red
3 days ago
Still late. None of this should have taken place after the first 2 months in 2020. We knew it was low risk for the majority by then.
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Cosas de Tesla
3 days ago
Best news ever
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Killian potworoska
Killian potworoska
2 days ago
Top interview Freddie that’s journalism!

David Rogers
2 days ago (edited)
Since she keeps pushing the nonsense that the injections are safe and effective she obviously hasn’t got around yet to modelling the damage caused already by the injections.
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Martin Stewart
Martin Stewart
2 days ago
Great sensible move by Danés, great to be liberated

DJ NV
3 days ago
Sad that in the US the modelers are so influenced by political pressure. They wouldn’t even be selected or heard by the CDC or current administration if they shared data antithetical to their political ideologies.
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Nina L
2 days ago (edited)
This Danish woman still think that the result of not hospitalization is because of the vaccine, not because of the nature evolution of the virus, then how do you explain the situation in South Africa. during the Delta wave, there were a lot of hospitalization, but during the Omicron wave, not many hospitalization any more, and they have very low vaccination rate in South Africa.
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Lydia Malinovic
2 days ago
it would be interesting to investigate freedom convoy in Canada and USA

OneLine
2 days ago (edited)
Give her the upstanding Unherd medal.

J G
3 days ago
THE SACRIFICE OF GOD: There is only one God, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. One God, three parts. Humans have a soul, spirit and body. One person, three parts.
The Bible says that we are all sinners.
As it is written: There is none righteous no not one. Romans 3:10
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23
But we are all as an unclean thing and all our righteousness are as filthy rags. Isaiah 64:6
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23(the word “death” in this verse means eternal separation, from God in hell).
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow.Isaiah 1:18
Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and that He was buried and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures.1CORINTHIANS 15:3-8
In whom we have redemption through His blood, even the forgiveness of sins. Colossians 1:14
For by grace ye are saved, through faith; and not of yourselves
it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vein. Galatians 2:21
If you would like to receive Jesus as your Savior. Realize that you are a hopeless sinner and trust in Jesus and only Jesus to save you.
You can say a prayer expression your gratitude, sorrow for sins etc. but remember your prayer doesn’t save you.
Your trust in Jesus and what He did for you on the cross, is what saves you.
The moment you trust in Jesus and only Jesus, you are saved.
After people get saved they get baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
It is for believers only and has nothing to do with your salvation.
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Martin Lund
3 days ago
US/UK Modeler produces a result. Politician demands that it be changed/altered to fit his/her narrative. There is the variable that went wrong.

Rita Antonio
3 days ago
perhaps Geert Von Bossche was right and that’s why ended up with delta. modellers throughout the pandemic have been off by several orders of magnitude on more than one occasion proving that more data doesn’t mean better decisions.

Paul Badics
3 days ago
Also in canada unlike Uk & denmark & others that just ended most or all restrictions when they do decide to loosen restrictions they spread it out over 2 months “abundance of caution”

Silvia Spampinato
2 days ago (edited)
I envy the people of Denmark. Having a government and scientists that can be trusted must be beautiful. In Italy, thank to our government, scientists and especially Media, it’s complete hysteria.

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Melusine
Melusine
3 days ago
Hmmm. So letting it rip in Australia is causing massive pressure on our health system, they’ve had to stop most elective surgery …

Marielle Ladt
2 days ago
Why did we start using models to organize the regulations about Covid. ? When that modelling started. ?
So if I understand correctly the covid crisis has been dictated with those models? This is frightening when we see the disastrous
results around the world. This information is essential to understand what happen. Besides the conflict of interest and the
political connection with labs etc we can add the influence of the mathematical model. This is fascinating to observe the
functioning of our political, + lobbying+ those models in question.
Thank you for helping us to understand.
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John James
2 days ago
Thank God for Sanity and true Science. God bless UK, Denmark , Japan and South Africa.

Careful Consumer
1 day ago
I hope the host has Dr Moller on again in 1-2 months for more follow up. Thanks.
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Hameerudin Zawawi
2 days ago
This video made me subscribe. Thank you Unherd and Dr Camilla!
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Paulina Pi
2 days ago (edited)
Models need to be detailed to age and risk groups, vaccinated and unvaccinated vs (the tight not broad) age groups. Denmark has system info on who how many for example have diabetes or prediabetes, other conditions etc. . UK seems not to follow or provide the numbers correctly. Or even collect the health data. For example most UK people with clear pre-diabetes I’ve met had no clue they had insulin resistance.
If a country has the entire healthcare in a social system (private and public) it’s easier for the gov to access the correct statistics/data.
Without correct and critically narrowed down data even the most perfect model won’t work.
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Artkido Lee
2 days ago
She’s firm n collected, won’t let anyone put words in her mouth

Haridas991
3 days ago
Well done Denmark. May God protect the Danish people for their guts to stand up to the virus. May the rest of the world follow suit. Amen

Mark McLetchie
1 day ago
The difference is that Denmark used the data of South African scientists. UK thought they knew better than “the colonies”.

Alida van Eeden
18 hours ago
Well done hope SouthAfrica will follow soon watching from SouthAfrica
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Leonard Checchio
3 days ago
Wonderful news Bravo Denmark putting freedom and reason ahead of fear.

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Bitcoin FightClub
1 day ago
All of these worldwide Call kyle experts need to apologize for getting it wrong

Erast Van Doren
2 days ago
So, in summary: they got hospitalization right despite the facts that the uncertainties are at least 5 times larger, and the fact that they used omicron severity 5 times the real value. So in fact, they just got lucky. And this should be a good modelling?

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Gulnar Kulybekova
3 days ago
What I hear here that modeling group were focused only and exclusively on vaccines.
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Fai BigHeart
2 days ago
Well, I am not an scientist but I like a way they think heading, that makes them special from us non scientist. For this lady, she is In a group of realistic scientist not influenced by politics, funder and definitely they aren’t a vaccine salesman

eslinc
2 hours ago
Greetings, Mr Sayers. I subscribed to your channel after watching this episode.

praisebewibble
2 days ago
About time, now the rest of the sane world should follow.
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Darwin Maisner
3 days ago
It’s a bit silly to compare the two countries. You can predict what’s going to happen in Denmark because it’s predictable. The UK isn’t. Our mathematicians forgot to take into account that a million twats would be marching in the middle of a pandemic over racist cheese on toast regulations.

Not So Obscure
1 day ago
This makes no sense! Isn’t asymptomatic people still able to expose another person these people take away all confidence in their reasoning

Ami Kailua
2 days ago
Take a bow Denmark … you deserve kudos!

Tyra Masters-Heinrichs
2 days ago
Thank you, excellent interview. Take care from Manitoba, Canada

joop trumesant
3 days ago (edited)
Can this Chief Modelling please be lent to the Netherlands, they have a bunch of clowns called RIVM who just can’t count and the lockdown won’t stop, help!

笔名
2 days ago
If your govt values and champions transparency and avoid politicizing “science”, then your administrators will not consider the extra work of having to present with a negative bias. Fix your govt before your think of getting better modellers. If the top is crooked, the bottom will be slanted.

iMay
1 day ago
No to covid vaccine mandate
So help us God
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benjamin franzuela
1 day ago
Great interview. Well discussed. Thank you from the Philippines.

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SUBSTEREO
3 days ago
This is absolutely wonderful. So peoud to be Danish. Feeling very red and white right now

Rui Martins
2 days ago
The New Zealand government needs to watch this video!

Paul Veðrafjǫrðr
2 days ago
Impressive woman with a good head on her shoulders Love you Denmark!

james lynch
2 days ago
THANK YOU , AT LAST SOME ONE WITH COMMON SENSE.

Inana
3 days ago
Great work, Freddie
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Celestial Teapot
3 days ago
The words “liberated” and “panicked” are ideologically loaded in this context.

Nic Andela
2 days ago
I think you need to look for NEW modellers in the UK, how long are you going to rely on the same faulty department, it’s been dismal.
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Carol Leota
3 days ago
WELL DONE. WOW. HERE IN NZ adern JUST GIVE THE WHOLE COUTRY A RED LIGHT. ENJOY YOUR FREEDOM. DENMARK YOU SHOULD HAVE A MEMORIAL DAY FOR THIS. I’M HAPPY FOR U.LOVE U ALL.
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raspberry treacle
3 days ago
Their institutions seem to be politically neutral how refreshing.

mtebor
2 days ago
And in the USA some states still have mask mandates and vax mandates if you want to work. Some entertainment venues and bars require to show your papers.

Diana Paloma
20 hours ago
Great interview. Thank you.

Scott Silburn
6 hours ago
WELL DONE DENMARK!!!
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Flight Simulator Lessons
1 day ago
Hoping the New Zealand government can come to its senses and follow Denmark’s example as we are still living under such restrictive mandates, masks, vaccination passes!

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Hani Serhan
Hani Serhan
2 days ago
I suggest you bring on someone who’s extremely pro mandates and challenge their opinions and views
. They are after all opinions and not facts.

Lovely Linda
2 days ago
Thanks god for country’s like these leading the way!!!! Here in America we aren’t going to be so lucky with good old BRANDON at the controls!!!
Good for you!!!!

Gabriele Gaven
2 days ago
Common Sense prevails! also Democracy is there and also Honesty and more….meaning Respect etc.

Fuhgeddaboudit
2 days ago
Anyone that miss useless COVID mandates is welcome to swap places with me and exist in Australia while I live i Denmark!

Kathy Connolly
1 day ago
Wonderful. She is fully transparent.

Karina Bloom
4 hours ago
We need to keep the politics out if the science in every country

Luh Ariyadi Wangga Seruni
3 days ago
I’m whitnessing danish’s common sense, nice and deligent people.

DayDreamer
2 days ago
I’m overwhelmed by logic & common sense. Lol.. feels like magic

funkdoubt1
1 day ago
Denmark is not part of the International community in the way that the UK, is. Its geographic location, population control, Role in Finance, stock markets placement, historical racial make up and or role in empire. The uK and US have used this Covid opportunity and period surely, to secure new terms for mass migration and labor conditions for both industry and on a societal level. The African continent has designed plans for its own trade deals and partnerships, at the same time as NAFtA and T TIP.
This is the reason for the focus on ‘ multi culturalism ‘, the legal ability to mobilise large scale economic migration (an already fading but once popular sociological-media term)
and the way in which it is and has been handled, at gov level.
Im second gen foreigner in London and can plainly see that intention and implementation. The gay rights and LgBtQ communities have been given upward thrust in their plight at the same time as the rest of the facade. Creating yet more feigned corporate empathy, gov level intervention and legal will thrown in its direction. yet another division and crack in society whilst manoeuvring everyone closer to the noose and money making guillotine.
The little guy, girl or other identifier stand little to no chance. This Johnson govt have stuck to ideas of punishing us in the uk. Opted to hit us over talking to us. Shun us and remove our anity, literally in law, to make us , their enemy. Then encouraged and torched our chances of coming together, using the division to climb down further in to the cracks.
Never ever forget what side the politicians took when your basic human rights were up for sake and grabs. What they sold and took uo against you, the electorate. And held on to until the bitter end because your health and freedoms were merely chips, negotiated at the casinos of their choice.
Had new light not forced its way in, these guys were voting against your freedoms being upheld
Never, ever trust governmemt.
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Freedom Always
3 days ago
WAY TO GO DENMARK
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H H
3 days ago
I’m moving. I can’t handle the tyranny in my country, it’s unfortunate
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tropolite
tropolite
2 days ago (edited)
Because we know Ferguson has historically been x10 fold on ALL his modelling. His models are really off big time.
Look at ALL of the previous models he’s constructed. A total loss. Bad, and total pessimistic view. Models must also reflect real world information. Omicron in Denmark is regarded totally different to that which Ferguson shunned as far less threatening but just infectious.
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Jack steiner
2 days ago
Perhaps, you should ask her whether the Gates Foundation paid for her statistical modelling, as they paid for the English ones…

Old Seer
3 days ago
It could be—could be, that Denmark has no tyrants.

Emily Williams
2 days ago
Perhaps the PR system helps create less of an attacking type of politics without so much tribalism instead looking at the data?

Jimothy Araian
3 days ago
Here in NZ it will be illegal for me to continue working in 2 weeks without a booster despite my last shot only 4 months ago
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Stephen Morrell
2 days ago
It’s not a matter of modeller training. It’s more a matter of Anglo-academic public health ‘culture’: a long ‘tradition’ of elevating uncertainties around RCTs and Cochrane meta-analytic ‘evidence’, etc, to the extent of erecting elaborate arguments and scenarios, without any evidence in themselves, to negate actual evidence that’s not absolutely ‘perfect’. This has neutered the most ‘learned’ public health academics’ ability to see the forest for the trees, all the more so as they seek to earn academic kudos for perceiving or inventing new plausibly ‘fatal’ flaws and biases in studies they review. Very rarely to these ‘glass-half-empty’ purists attempt to quantify the biases and flaws they have supposedly detected.
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gerafina li
1 day ago
Maybe we should look into the relationship between governments and pharmaceutical companies to be able to predict accurately which country will have panicked based models and drastic measures, and which ones won’t.

Guy Pierce
3 days ago
They were never “laws” but none the less great news.

Hilltron eye
3 days ago
Greetings from Poland! To everyone, but special greetings for Canada. Get your freedom get your life in your hands!!!! Greetings and God bless all

J C
2 days ago
what about the changes happening for human rights? will they drop that? and drop all restrictions brought in for the common cold? Also NHSx…. what is that about, not health
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Brad Stokes
3 days ago
Hope BC in Canada makes this move soon as well

First name Last name
3 days ago
Immunity is all that’s here as now
Thanks for this

How the world works
3 days ago
Just admit that you don’t know everything and you can be wrong about plenty of things. This is what ALL scientists should do and stop forcing people to do something detrimental to them on the long run based on your obsession with thinking that you are right all the time or at least most of the time. That is simply not true. No one is right all the time so stop acting like it.
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Tracey Google Serviced
3 days ago
Brilliant News! Brilliant work Freddie!

Richard K
39 minutes ago
Are the people supposed to be thankful for getting their freedoms back? They should never have taken them away in the first instance. A lot of people are coming out trying to cover their asses but we remember what you did.

G Hersh
2 days ago
Love this video. Excellent information. Love from USA.

Nic Andela
2 days ago
love it, normality, could not have come fast enough

quantumac
45 minutes ago
Justin Trudeau would do himself a favor if he paid attention to this. Instead, I expect he will double-down on his country’s mandates, but I would like to be wrong.

Lola Saint
3 days ago
Logical reporting, thank you !1

Jack steiner
2 days ago
Countries spent hundreds of billions of dollars on this pandemic. Can we trace and independently account for these funds? Is it possible, that among other things, this pandemic was used to funnel money to a WEF or UN account?

Mac Franks
2 days ago
When people quit getting boosters, if that happens, there may be another wave of infection with Omicron.

Rick Knight
3 days ago
Well done Freddie

All Seeing Eye
1 day ago
And to think here in the UK they have the temerity to bang on about our need to ‘listen to the experts’. By the look of it, our ‘experts’ are not very expert……

northrockboy
3 days ago
what happened to all the pandemic preparation manuals developed over many years to deal with future pandemics ?

Garry Holmes
3 days ago
Don’t just think THEIR plan has gone away. Keep your head on a swivel & stay awake.
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anne marie
2 days ago
EXCELLENT !!!! LOVE YOUR SHOW

Selina F
2 days ago
Great conversation, thank you

Thu Vu
3 days ago
We’ve been suffered for 2 years enough is enough
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Chris T
2 days ago
As always…. GO FREDDY!

Orgone Warrior
3 days ago
look at the reuters statistics, denmark has 112 percent vaccinated, sweden only has 93 percent, estimated +10 percent in 33 days…
they want everyone modified
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Carlito Molina
2 days ago
Praise the Lord…
Denmark is waking up from reality…

sukhmanicambridge
3 days ago (edited)
love this dr UPDATING THE MODELS seems also to have been something UK missed out on, feedback loop from REAL WORLD local data.

MsChitterchat
1 day ago
While this is good news, I still don’t like the level of control these people have.

Becky Winchester
2 days ago
Way ta go you guys !love from Canada

Harry Delmar
3 days ago
Denmark flattened fuckall! The “pandemic” went away because it has now for the first time in 2 years the old normal/sanity has been allowed to resume.
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Aunty Linda
2 days ago
It’s about time! Omicron and its descendants are not as serious as Delta. It’s only common sense to now protect the most vulnerable.

Åke Johansson
3 days ago
Love you guys of Demark keep fighting folks

Datahound
2 days ago (edited)
Praying it’s just not a interim decision on the way to another new normal .

Emma Batan
2 days ago
Excellent video!!!! Thanks so much ! CONTINUE!!!!
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jack dempsey
3 days ago
Goddamn right they did make the right call.
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Stephen A
3 days ago
DW just said all this is misinformation!! Love it!!!

M Harper
3 days ago
Excellent questions! No kidding we all want to fire our modellers!

Tricia Jones
2 days ago
He said people actually have common sense without a law lol.
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金志誠
1 day ago
Let’s wait and see how Denmark’s plan works in two months.

Matthew Mentz
2 days ago
It seems to me you never never address vaccine injury with any of your interviews, do you think this is something irrelevant?
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Tristan Solero
3 days ago
Tyllykke Camilla. Thank you Danes. Great interview Freddie. Well done

Paola Amato Sabatelli
2 days ago
This is a true democracy!! Denmark

Blittle Ing
3 days ago
Fantastic interview!
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Elfreda Wright
3 days ago
Well done, Denmark!

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Dutch Frisian mud digger.
Dutch Frisian mud digger.
2 days ago
Still a litle lockdown and 3G in the Netherlands…….. there are new rules to come
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Black Knight
3 days ago (edited)
As Australia call for 3rd and 4th boosters!
Worlds gone mad
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Marleen Codougan
3 days ago
Soon the World will regain normalcy again. I hope that America will follow these very smart Countries.
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dinola 326
dinola 326
1 day ago
Denmark: Freedom day. Germany: All in prison!

Rhodian Deetlefs
2 days ago
Great interview!

colly beans
1 day ago
Ended all Covid laws? Then why are Denmark still going ahead with the Vaccine Passports??

Tikhon Osipov
3 days ago
Thank you for this one!

Peteyz Zed
3 days ago (edited)
Domino effect will happen and other countries will follow. Thanks for whoever released it
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Leunis van de Wege
3 days ago
The more dramatic the model, the more important the virologist. That’s the weak spot of modelling.
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Juby To
Juby To
2 days ago
Brilliant work!

Eemes1000
2 days ago
Nothing is rotten in the state of Denmark!

Paul Verheyden
1 day ago
for the same projection at 18:35 we in the netherlands were in lockdown from just before kristmas

Andrea Re
3 days ago (edited)
Freddie, where do you see in the UK the government saying one thing and the opposition another. They talk in unison here (unless you talk about the REAL opposition, which is the Tory party itself).
12:48
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F S
2 days ago
great interview, cheers!
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Alison Borchers
3 days ago
They’re all just caving to unrelenting pressure from business – greedily desperate to try to crank up their economies. I hope the people see through it and look after themselves. The thing with covid is that, though it might be mild for most people, it might kill you… Good luck Danes!
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Carmen Ionescu
2 days ago (edited)
Are you complaining in UK? Look what happens in France
Thank you UnHerd , excellent.
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Murilo Borges
19 hours ago
Just missed she talk a little more about natural imunity…i know Denamrk is a highly vaccinated country, but we are seeing that with omicron they do not protect that much…She always keeps praising vaccines, but we should praise the natural imunity that this variant, wich is milder than others,is bringing to people.
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andreacostanza
andreacostanza
1 day ago
Great Freddie, thankYou!!

Susan Creed
3 days ago
How can anyone say “flatten the curve” with a straight face?
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four tails
3 days ago
Common sense prevails in Denmark ..let’s hope more countries will follow suite

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Vilma Cordero
1 day ago
Silly question if it is a good time to get exposed. She is saying people are now expected to act responsibly to protect themselves.
People die everyday. It is a part if life.

r ar
3 days ago (edited)
Re exponential growth — this is only a reasonable approximation for the early phases of growth when the environment is open & unrestrained. After some time there is environmental response & push-back, or the growth fuel diminishes.
(E.g. an exponential growth of locusts leads to environmental push-back in the form of predators responding to the increased food supply and reducing the locusts; or in an explosion the early exponential expansion ends when the explosive fuel runs out or gets blown away.)
For a more realistic model of growth start with the
“Logistic_function” on Wikipedia (can’t post link)
— can’t expect policy-makers or ideological narratives to understand mathematics, but they could be better informed and then maybe “Follow the Science”.
Be careful who you trust!
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d8ta scientist
2 days ago
Excellent questions!

Environmental Coffeehouse
2 days ago
Interview Vincent Racaniello- Virologist in NYC. He can definitely fill you in on the virus, vaccines & mitigation. Microbe TV

La Fleur Productions
2 days ago
So tactful all round!

Y K
3 days ago
Is it open for both vaccinated and unvaccinated?
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Nelly Delcheva
3 days ago
Freddie is the best
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Emma Batan
2 days ago
Excellent video!!!! Thanks so much ! CONTINUE!!!!

Joe Bueno
1 day ago
That is what you can call a smart government

ab bbb
3 days ago
It all goes down to probability: the less CoViD regulation and restriction, the more the probability of contamination, the more contaminated individual the higher the risk of mutation and the higher the risk of mutation, the higher the probabilty of a highly infectious fatal mutation killing most of the population. But this is maybe the underlying plan the lesser the population, the lesser the number of contact, and therefore the virus will naturally die lacking hosts.
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Iain Benson
2 days ago
SAGE needs to be shelved. It has demonstrated incompetence…..

Jip Meijer
2 days ago
Finally a real scientist! Where are the other ones?

Kaze Jah
3 days ago
What an intelligent, pleasant woman!!!

Idea Window
2 days ago
The map is not the terrain, models are not reality and data is not truth.
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Bushveld Kid
2 days ago
Fantastic to hear!

N Bach
1 day ago
Did everyone read “The real Anthony Fauci ” by Robert F. Kennedy Jr?
Must read
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Spencer Brown
1 day ago
Fricken LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Creanga
1 day ago
Denmark be blessed!

venividi credi
2 days ago (edited)
How much compensation did they give that poor footballer whose career they nearly destroyed with their nonsense.. and how much is being proposed for us lesser types in a not dissimilar boat

Ward Bray
1 day ago
An impressive person.

Teri Nunes
2 days ago
Denmark the only country that will be keeping the same government

Pat Hacker
2 days ago
Ferguson is still given credence? He is always far off the mark.

Mare S
3 days ago
Truth prevails!

Ged of Gont
3 days ago
It wasn’t the entire world that went mad then.
I bet Prof Ferguson has a wax figurine of this lady – and a very large supply of needles.
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codica666
2 days ago
There’s one word missing in this discussion: luck. Models are called models because they are not reality. Denmark is only ahead of the curve until their model screws up. Then the whole discussion starts over: how could this happen? Whoever expects there to be the one “correct model” or “the right policies” just ignores the nature of reality.
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ThomasSherrod
3 days ago
Discrepancies in the numbers…? How can this be?!
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Jessica
3 days ago
Brilliant work

TS L
3 days ago
Why is it Florida has stayed open the whole time? Or stayed open for a longer time?

Jenaya_Laila
2 days ago
She is completely misinformed regarding natural immunity and unvaxxed people!

First name Last name
3 days ago
It’s a new day for the whole

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Dirtpatcheaven
3 days ago
WOW!!!

Lil Crafty Nook
3 days ago
Germ vs terrain. If you aren’t healthy you tend to catch everything.

D K
3 days ago
British modellers are too academic. University staff are experts but not experts in how the world really works.
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Trevelina Delmar
Trevelina Delmar
13 hours ago
So can we travel there without having to show “the Great Reset”/aka VAx Pass?

stepmback
3 days ago
One critical thing. 80% of the Denmark population is fully vaccinated. If 80% of US was fully vaccinated it would be a miracle…. instead we are 40%. So when someone gets sick in Denmark they are more than likely vaccinated and are much less likely to go to hospital. Not the case in the US.
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The Artificial Society
The Artificial Society
2 days ago
Flattening the curve, what BS. None of the half baked measures they did accomplished anything.

Angeline Briscoe-Sperling
1 day ago
Ireland is free and has been for weeks.

Nick Ush
3 days ago
Beautiful mind, beautiful responses …… beautiful eyes….

Miss Cameroon
1 day ago
Bravo Denmark!

Jarmila Xymena Gorna
2 days ago
Thank you Freddie and Kamila

Slavica X
2 days ago
Have you seen the truck and car convoys in Canada..Australia and many more countries. It’s huge!

Daniel Shaw
3 days ago
Why don’t you get John Campbell on? The two of you could take down the whole house of cards. Cheers from the Colonies.

Gitte Bruun
3 days ago
Very good Work Finally

David Flusin
2 days ago
How many times does Pr. Fergusson need to be dramatically wrong before he becomes irrelevant?

aztlanplay
3 days ago
What a rational reasonable society.

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Thien
Thien
3 days ago (edited)
Why isn’t Denmark following the science (gasp)? How dare they!

JonJonBoi
2 days ago
Its not just Denmark that is the only country that got rid of all covid laws or most covid laws. Most countries around the world are honestly mostly back to normal. Countries like Poland, Sweden, Russia, Hungary, Turkey, Czech Republic and Greece for example mostly got rid of their covid laws including mask mandates and have no vaccine mandates as well. Its mostly America and some countries especially in the Anglosphere and the Philippines that have extreme covid laws
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Wayne Bateman
1 day ago
Only isolate if you have symptoms like you should do with the flu, but of course you should be vaccinated against both.

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mark hughes
16 hours ago (edited)
5:28
‘This pandemic’? Do not published state statistics for Britain say that over the last two years general mortality has decreased by 0.2%? A bit difficult to stuff a ‘pandemic’ in there? ‘World modelling’ – aye there’s the rub! Check out Russell Brand ‘Here we go again’ – a telling story of high finance!
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iozsa tabita
3 days ago
AMAZING!

Mr. Mcgoo
2 days ago (edited)
Sane thinking in what is becoming an insane world. Surprised Bernie doesn’t come around
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Jennifer Neumann
3 days ago
God Bless Denmark. Stay free.

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Ruzhyn, Ukraine: in the middle of nowhere
Ruzhyn, Ukraine: in the middle of nowhere
2 days ago
Why don’t they start hunting ghosts or flattening shadows?

GC
2 days ago (edited)
If we end up with a One World Government ….. can we have the Danes in charge of health…Brits run the footie ?

italo Souza
3 days ago
Excelente

Beatrice Lutchmiah
2 days ago
Denmark us doing what’s right

Happy
3 days ago
Brilliant

Daniel James
3 days ago
You’re a beautiful man Freddie

Vestland
2 days ago
I live in a city in Norway. I never ever wear a mask. I never got any of the wax. Yet I never got Covid! Care to explain?

Rise of the Infinite
1 day ago

Npc I’m knot
7 hours ago
denmark.. please please shame canada and america and australia.. it’s time to end this..
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ClassifiE.D.
3 days ago
Yesss beautiful

Misti Colon
2 days ago
Premature action. New variants which could be more severe may come and people will not want to go from freedoms to restrictions again. We all hope Omicron antibodies in the majority of the population can help with herd immunity. Still too soon.

David De Ridder
3 days ago
True scientist, if you ask me!
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Chris Knight
22 hours ago (edited)
Weird. Danish death rate the same as the peak of their first wave and rising, their infection rate not yet definitely peaked. Midwinter. I hope they know what they are doing! Population size is not everything, population density and localized population densities in conurbations makes huge differences in rates of infection of communicable diseases.
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mark hughes
16 hours ago
10:30
Well meaning but a technocrat? – what exactly is the balance between those who – in any particular State – have died of the virus (as opposed to those with the virus) – and those who have died shortly after vaccination?

NileQueen
3 days ago
I would LOVE to have an Unherd bumper sticker. How can I get one? Thanks, Joanne

vaccinefraud
1 day ago
We don’t need anyone to ‘explain’ any of this, let alone with Math.
The true FACT CHECKERS exposed ALL of the lies so there is no ability for them to hide behind their lies and the lawsuits to follow. Will all of the mink get a letter of apology? Oh, wait… they’re all ded.

unclejake154
3 days ago
Tak Danemark! Well done!

Betsy Ulbrich
2 days ago
Variants, variants, variants….no test exists for these variants….did any of them ever exist?

raspel1960
23 hours ago
the very truth is that every free will human being
has to defend and clear the own territory …
free of foreign intruders, overcomers, mandatorists,
set zero’ers, robbers, inflaters, rapers, blackmailers,
kings of the road, squatters.
Do organize that free’s to help and support each other
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Benjamin de Leeuw
1 day ago
So this is what an honest expert sounds like. Guess she didn’t get the memo from Klaus Schwab. Must have landed in the Spam folder. Doh!

happy joyjoy
3 days ago
the wheels are falling off the scandemic quicker than the titan sinking.
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vehbi emre kesim
3 days ago (edited)
Congratulations Denmark. we are still living with fascism in Germany.
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Karl D. Marx
2 days ago
Freddie … Don’t be a selfish bastard … This lady should go to Germany … No that I expect Karl Lauterbach to really understand what Camilla Holten-Møller is saying … but we should give it a shot.
Thanks for another great interview!!!

Robert Hart
3 days ago
Now it’s time to bring mandate tyrants to task
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Monti Tate
2 days ago
A good interview, and we’ll done.

hoonosewut4
3 days ago
A country with people in charge who have COMMON SENSE??????????Please come and run Canada!!
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Christi P
Christi P
2 days ago
So they’re NOT offering ANY TREATMENT of ANY KIND……THATS WHY!

will liam
2 days ago
Natural immunity still shunned by authorities
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soredem
2 days ago
There’s always the push for vaccines

Sue Williams
19 hours ago
What does Denmark think of the PM here in the UK ?

w ss
2 days ago
Actually the Swedes were first to freedom through science and logic.

soredem
3 days ago
I wish that was the case in California, they have a new variant ….

Don Tonno Con Fagioli
2 days ago
Even her ‘reasonable’ comments are still all bollocks.
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K L
6 hours ago
What about Mandatory Vaccinations? Please let us know what the Vaccination and passport issue is like. From Canada where we are fighting for FREEDOM.
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sorsocksfake
sorsocksfake
2 days ago
Basing your plans on facts and math? Strange concept. Everyone (at least in politics) knows you have to do it the other way around.
Clearly more evidence that Denmark is not a real country

jir1969
3 days ago
Professor Neil Ferguson and SAGE should take note.
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dablackangel
3 days ago
I guess I’m going to Denmark then

DDUS4
2 days ago
BA2 is growing fast in the UK too.

Ubiquitary
3 days ago
Does she deserve credit because she came to her senses twenty months after us non-experts? Sorry, she was clearly part of the authoritarian gang for too long.
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Mari A
Mari A
1 day ago
I’m off to Denmark!

Ivan Baric
3 days ago
HOW REFRESHING . I AM NOT ALONE . GROWN UP AT WORK , back in the cupboard
with the snowflakes . Respect …. Sydney AUST.

Anita Berendsen
2 days ago
It’s not ended.
You still can’t go there without a damnd useless test!!!!
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Peteyz Zed
3 days ago
I wish I could be a UK modeller, be crap and keep getting paid

Paul Badics
3 days ago
I canada they have said have to follow “worst cass models”
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Trish Abbott
3 days ago
Love to Denmark.

Fish Mud
3 days ago
Love this channel but the amount of ads drive me crazy! Especially when I’m cooking

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Stephen A
3 days ago
Monoclonal vaccines are to blame of the failure of the vaccines. Polyclonal natural immunity or that from sinovac is better at protecting from more variants. Will it for all future one? UNKNOWN

Karen Young
2 days ago
An actual expert. Not Sage. How refreshing.

tule fogger
1 day ago
excellent interview

Sergi Yavorski
2 days ago
We need Camilla to replace Fauci here in the US

Patrick Bateman
3 days ago
Please come to Australia. Our modelers are broken…

Dysjoint
2 days ago
Send her and her team to New Zealand please!

marco polo
2 days ago
Go Denmark !!! We love u!
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Yin Yang
2 days ago
amazing….at last some common sense!!
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Antonio Da Rosa Martínez
1 day ago
Esta señora dice que los ciudadanos daneses tienen toda la confianza en sus políticos y autoridades sanitarias y todos los partidos han apoyado al gobierno. : . Nosotros también.

cchione
3 days ago
What is going on with the US??? Cases, not mild? Deaths

Arnold Attard
1 day ago
SPEAKS BETTER ENGLISH THAN MANY NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS.

Booniedog Chamorru
3 days ago (edited)
This is how to conduct
interview.
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Suzanne Harry
2 days ago
yes good, But they are enforcing the Digital ID hard for total control.

Dan AWC
2 days ago
No questions about ivermectin?
What would happen if the higher susceptible people in the population would taken ivermectin daily?
Mmmm I wonder. Japanese dr’s started prescribing April 15, 12 days later cases were so so low and they still are very low.
Mmmmm???
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james duncan
2 days ago
Came to there senses at last
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Neil Fitzsimmons
3 days ago
Funny how you don’t hear about this on msm.
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Nadia Darwish
3 days ago
I admire this channel

K H
3 days ago
FFS just give sick people the cheap therapeutic drugs that work.
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keto3883
2 days ago (edited)
2mio cases a day in a 56mio country. how the fuck would that even possible ? there would be some insane interactions needed to make that realistic. looks like math theory vs real world case. ignore people interact in circles and just make it random etc. just guessing but thats a frequent problem.

in
3 days ago
Data beyond opinons doesn’t that get politics out of the way, but can data be corrupted, overall am trusting 1st commandment.
Thank you

Backspin66
2 days ago
That’s my type of woman. Congrats Denmark.

tonyjajou
2 days ago
I agree with you I hope she can come to NewZealand

Vilma Cordero
1 day ago
No longer living in fear..
Congratulations

michael bradley
2 days ago
Why is he asking medical questions from a modeller?
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James Coffey
3 days ago
Denmark didn’t make a model, they just looked at South Africa, model don’t work for complex systems, observation does
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Olga Curita
Olga Curita
3 days ago
Finally they see the truth

Eddy mmm
2 days ago
Models weren’t just wrong, they were horrible
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Dawn Webb
15 hours ago
I’m going to Denmark!
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chris tophe
3 days ago
She should come here to France… help !

Kimberley down under
3 days ago
Dam I want to move to Denmark
Except I can’t , I’m under strict draconian rules from the muppets in charge .

Wirmish
3 days ago
What was the “curve” for the 0 to 65 years old ?

Algorithm, Inc.
1 day ago (edited)
Great stuff … wonderful lady …

Lo-boy69
1 day ago
Its going to get much worse, this is just the first phase. Wake up…

TheGudsdotter
2 days ago
Good work Denmark

WIT NESS PRO T E C T I O N
2 days ago
how do you claim these reports as fact and believe you based on what exactly? Clearly pushed from a standpoint view
for accomplishing … ??? Part of the script..imo

Richard Mulligan
3 days ago
Please can you get your Prime Minister to talk some sense into her good friend Jacinda Ardern!! She’s lost the plot!
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RobertSmith0008
3 days ago
can you please make an interview with Geert Vanden Bossche?

ScooterNoMore
3 days ago
Love her, Love the Danes!

Koyaan Isqatsi
3 days ago
Painful… modelling is not an exact science… there is your answer. It is just a guess (best, professional but still guessing).
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fly 202
fly 202
3 days ago
I guess they figured tourist season is coming up.

Tony Rule
2 days ago
Meanwhile, in NZ… Jabcinda is doubling down.
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oneski io
3 days ago
Imagine climate change modelling!!!

cutpricetech
1 day ago
THANK THE LORD FOR THOSE STABLE DANISH GOV ‘CRITICAL THINKERS’; COME ON REST OF THE WORLD GOVS; WAKEY, WAKEY

Suzanne Lee
1 day ago
Excellent!!!

audience2
22 hours ago
Great questions
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Adventures in Health and Wellbeing
3 days ago
Can someone please send this information to the Prime Minster of Canada… are lives are being dictated by last year’s information.
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George Mavrides
George Mavrides
2 days ago
Apha, Beta…Delta, Omicron…blah blah blah. Was telling friends last year that they will come up with variants till the greek alphabet letters run out. Nothing beats natural, real immunity in healthy individuals.

Khurram Malik
3 days ago
In the end rationalist end up swallowing their owl tail.
My be Ouroboros was a bored ,mostly irrelevant “modeler” of the day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

jg5555
2 days ago
I want to go to there.

The Dialogue
3 days ago
Wow honest government. Now that’s strange.

Les Nash
3 days ago
How do you say PANDEMIC without laughing?
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NanoRussian Bot
NanoRussian Bot
2 days ago
Less corruption in Denmark then perhaps?
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A free man
3 days ago
Smart woman, I would love her hand in marriage.

Npc I’m knot
7 hours ago
agreee but not the stuff she talked about vaccines.

Denver Hornsby Jr.
2 days ago
Smart Denmark!!

Austin Jdn
2 days ago
Good on Denmark, but this lady is extremely difficult to get a straight answer out of. Always trying to be diplomatic rather than just stating a firm opinion.
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mickeyh1961
10 hours ago
Oops sounds like Denmark is going to have a Regime change if this continues

Laura Kyplain
2 days ago
Omercon replaced Delta, we love Denmark!

ᛞᚫᚾᛖᚱ
2 days ago
Next topic. The world leaders (the elite) “Russia attacking Europa!” Run for the hills

Shazia Asif
2 days ago
Let’s go to Denmark to breathe freely…
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Browneyez
1 day ago
Excellent! Let go and let God.

Peppy The Miniature Schnauzer
1 day ago
Their hospitals probably still function ok

Holly Kostera
3 days ago
Beware. This may not be what it seems.

effigy
12 hours ago
Nothing to do with the submission to the International Criminal Court

Dean Vorbach
23 hours ago
Hey Brett Bed wetter Sutton give this Lady a call, she seems to have some common sense.

raspel1960
1 day ago (edited)
good and only acceptable serious decision

mommyromey
3 days ago
Kudos!!!!!!

halfgroverathome
15 hours ago (edited)
High trust because of low corruption
SAGE = bought?
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Kyle
2 days ago
Common sense has arrived just in time.

Dizon Lacia
1 day ago
Please Pres. Duterte! Tanggalin mo na ang vaccine mandate! It’s very discriminating, unscientific, unlawful and unconstitutional!!!!!

Xav911
1 day ago
that they don’t received the memo in many other european countries.

Revolution Underground
3 days ago
IT’S ABOUT TIME!

Harry R Soul
3 days ago
We had no opposition too anything in the uk. More of the same.

Wunderin Wynd Feather aka Skjeren
1 day ago
Great News!

Saed Uluso
3 days ago
Countries learning from Sweden after 3 years

Beth Mark
3 days ago
Maybe Israel will follow. That’s where I’m from.
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Leon Mailfert
2 days ago
It’s Denmark taking refugees from Australia?
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ladi jada
3 days ago
Why is anyone still listening to Neil Ferguson, given his inaccurate modelling?

Douglas McIntyre
3 days ago
Brilliant.

Talking Furkids
2 days ago
Sharing this got my shadow banned on facebook
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Jay Watt
3 days ago
Flatten the curve, Now your Seaing Level, also the earth is a Flat Elevated In Areas Plane We Live, GoOD On Denmark !!!

Ali59
2 days ago
Too bad Canada doesn’t have any qualified experts…..

sacred
3 days ago
Great!
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Martin Kopera
2 days ago
How come nobody talks about Sweden?
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ahmed dakkak
3 days ago
Common Sense Prevails.

lord skidmarks
3 days ago
societal break down when the living dead find out their the living dead

Pips Osborn
2 days ago
South Africa drops isolation as well from Feb 1 2o22

D S
3 days ago
Let’s all visit Denmark!!!!!
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C Jackson
C Jackson
2 days ago
At last the Penny has dropped

David Crawford
3 days ago
Good for you Camilla

Inconsolable
3 days ago
A state modeller who looks like a model!

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shutteredimage1
shutteredimage1
2 days ago
Jab goal was reached , haven’t heard end of passport I bet.

jelly lizar
2 days ago
The model is misleading. Cause more harm than benefit

alan bell
3 days ago
too many modelers become muddelers.
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Patrick Stewart
2 days ago
“This is the way.”

Manuela Stangier
2 days ago
Great!!!

Mimimac
1 day ago
Moving to Denmark anyone in nz or Australia?

Naiane
1 day ago
I’m soo happy!!!

Dee Jay Hand job Charnel House Crew
3 days ago
Great News.

rOsE TrEvInO
5 hours ago

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CARPO719
3 days ago
At least some nations are coming out of their cocoon
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Jennifer Owen
Jennifer Owen
1 day ago
Love Unherd!

Linda Zerr
3 days ago
What vaccines are being used in Denmark?
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DO NOT BUG ME.
DO NOT BUG ME.
2 days ago
Because they want to be re elected!

Mister Camworks
2 days ago (edited)
please come and work in holland……they cant put a model together here,to safe ther life !! Two years of wrong scarry models !!! monkys throwing darts !!

Baby Yoda
2 days ago
Artist on spotify tries to cancel both denmark and spain!!

UpTheSaints 2021
2 days ago
I had no idea England is a country

forcedair 92gt
3 days ago
Is Denmark taking new citizens? haha

Catarina SM
3 days ago

Andi P.
3 days ago

seeking the truth
3 days ago
Time to move to Denmark

Peter Vogwill
1 day ago
Once WARFARE FUNDED BIO LABS ARE CONSIDERED IN THIS CONTINUUM… ACTS OF DESIRED GAIN OF FUNCTION OFFER GOAL POSTS FOR BETTING POOLS

MAMIE
2 days ago
Science not politics!

Jacob Rolfe
3 days ago
might have to learn Danish

Lena yeret
2 days ago
Bravo

Grooverman
3 days ago
Why would anyone be listening to modeling forecast by Neil Ferguson at this point?

Dan Buckley
3 days ago
Awesome
Go truckers !!
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scher more
3 days ago
Listen up Canada!

Paul Worthington
2 days ago
I wish the interviewer would not do that stupid flapping around of his hands with fingers sticking out like twigs on a dead branch thing ( the “Look at me, I’m using body language”) that has become an institutional embarassment. It is nerdy. A total turnoff. That David Cameron numpty was addicted to it.

hugh helmrich
3 days ago
Bullshit from start to finish. A better title would be. Denmark’s state modeller: Please don’t throw me on the bonfire.

Breath of Home
3 days ago
Still won’t admit natural immunity is best.

Bulasha
1 day ago
Omicron boosted our immuniy.

Purple Soul
3 days ago
Hope Freedom in Italy now … No more pass
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CJA Mwankana
2 days ago

Jason Holmes
18 hours ago
Freddie’s got a crush on Camilla.

TortoiseJohnny
2 days ago
Unheard is the perfect name

Enigma
3 days ago
Can I move to Denmark?
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DMV Thrifty Nurse SDI
2 days ago
…and then you have the U.S.
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Paul Hancock
5 hours ago
Is the bonkers Spanish government watching?

Graham Stevens
3 days ago
Thank you

Mantra Life Products LLC
3 days ago
Natural immunity

denise odaniels
7 hours ago
smart. john hopkins hospital did some research. they said the isolation was basically for nothing. doesnt make that much of a matter .
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carebear09 White
carebear09 White
3 days ago
Please bring that common sense to USA

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LadyWatchingBird
2 days ago
Gooooo Denmaaaaaark!!!

Coool_Breeze_
3 days ago
My birthday is 1st Feb. Thanks Denmark.

MidwestRibeye
3 days ago
Al go rithm

Harold Roberts
2 days ago
Just say no!
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Opa Perner
2 days ago
Do you allow Ivemectin treatment

Damian Walsh
3 days ago
like they can distinguish Omicron from Delta……..

Guyzer
1 day ago
Doomsayers….on their faces!

Max preA
2 days ago
YES!
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Pablo Limo
7 minutes ago
That a dr or a politician?

Plint Dillion
3 days ago
People please, open up!

Paul Verheyden
2 days ago
why is anybody listening to neil ferguson after al of his mistakes

Lauretta Scalzo
3 days ago
Great.

Dr Scott
2 days ago

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MRJTUK
3 days ago
Soooooooo, can I get in without being injected?
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Npc I’m knot
7 hours ago
well she is still not thinking of natural immunity
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John Michael
John Michael
3 days ago
You pronounce all of your O’s like OY’s, and that’s not proper English.

Noumenon4Idolatry
3 days ago
Subscribed

Richard Lamer
3 days ago
Canada, PAY ATTENTION.
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swites
swites
2 days ago
As for the models… garbage in, garbage out.

Shokugeki chef
3 days ago
When neocov arrives, burials return

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Lucie Dagesse
Lucie Dagesse
3 days ago
I you do not have symptoms then why take a test?
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No I’m Spartacus
No I’m Spartacus
3 days ago
I’m moving to Denmark

724tito83
2 days ago

aleks 430
8 hours ago
Freddies vaccinated:(

Son Quatsch
3 days ago
Germany does not want to see this video.
1

A Bee
1 day ago
Truth from Ottawa

sam sam
2 days ago
I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Vicchi Oleski | embodied spirit work
3 days ago
smart Governing
1

Richard Smith
2 days ago
Can we swap her for Ferguson?

grizzuh
3 days ago
Stop the Madness!

Let’s Go Brandon
1 day ago
You need to get new dogs for your ‘new cheap tricks’…we are not dogs we know all your tricks!!!!!

Nebojsa Jurik
3 days ago
it’s not over until Bill says it’s over

Gregory Cickavage
3 days ago
Why so many different models?

Colin Riordan
2 days ago
something smells wonderful in denmark.
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Natural-HI
3 days ago

Philip Steeves
3 days ago
Thanks for sanity,

Michael Bo Hansen
2 days ago
OMG!! Cancel Denmark .. yesterday!

JetSurfing Nation jet boards & efoils
3 days ago
Finally
1

Alfie
3 days ago
Two years too late
1

klaaibaby
3 days ago
Seriously need to move
1

Katarzyna Olczyk
2 days ago
hi there, did any other country followed suit as denmark?

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PAUL FRANKLIN
PAUL FRANKLIN
3 days ago
Sense at last …
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Nareshkumar Patel
Nareshkumar Patel
11 hours ago
Money is root of all evil. Follow the money trail and you will find reason why UK modellers got it wrong .I wonder how much donation uk universities involved got from external sources. It will be interesting.

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Peter Vogwill
1 day ago
Fear not..the FLOOD THE ZONE CHOIR IS GOING AWAY…? Naaaah next Salvo will flip the relaxed on their heads…hmmmm

Fred Schwentafsky
2 days ago
Mexico did it long ago….wakey wakey.

Amanda Thurston
2 days ago
What about the mink?
1

Russ Monte
3 days ago
True vikings
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Josh Kidd
3 days ago
Meanwhile in Australia..

Vinni Jones
3 days ago

FuskerFisker
3 days ago
okay let’s try it out again …is it the word ‘propaganda’ which youtube don’t like ??? since i got deleted my posts 3 times

Lori Ann
3 days ago

Pumpkin Lashes
3 days ago
Tanzania led the way

Elisabetta Bronzi
1 day ago
help us in Italy
1

Kimberly Sanchez
2 days ago
#FREEDOM

L D
3 days ago
Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior.

Gospel Bearer
3 days ago
In Silico has entered the chat

apan gurra
3 days ago

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Adam Page
3 days ago
open discussion thats illegal
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Richard de la Sota
3 days ago
Why is anyone still listening to Neil Ferguson?
1

diane doody
1 day ago
Sense…

Matthew Edward Snyder
3 days ago

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michael jensen
3 days ago
I HATE this STUPID Telephone Change what i write all the time with danish words AI, Elon Musk, Robots is a sick plan The Youth you destroy with stupid toy machines

Dizon Lacia
1 day ago
Sana all!

Maria Garcia
2 days ago
Still promoting vetsin

woolengrappler
3 days ago
Please get on Rumble

J is the new Q
1 day ago
Old people with 4 plus underlying conditions .

Jürg Schüpbach
2 days ago
Belarus is still alive…….
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lawrence Hoffman
lawrence Hoffman
3 days ago
Garage in Garage out XD

Alex Fong
2 days ago
Yay!!!!

Tulips ontheorgan
1 day ago
“Baaa baaaa baaaa”

3Kiwiana
7 hours ago
Funny that she doesn’t admit natural immunity is better than vaxed
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Censored by Google
Censored by Google
2 days ago
21:47

David S. Tavadian
3 days ago
Probably, maybe, hope, not too confident, think….. it’s useless to listen to this woman…

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Paul Aoki
Paul Aoki
2 days ago
Flatten what?

Jeff F
3 days ago
cdc that’s a joke
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yeo
3 days ago
Cuz they smart?

Gino
1 day ago
Dr Camilla Holten-Møller very attractive girl

lolizorz
2 days ago
Ugh

Lana
2 days ago
B.s

Gordon Smith
2 days ago
Fauci!!’nnnn

 

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See Also

 

 

J-IDEA – Professor Neil Ferguson on the current 2019-nCoV coronavirus outbreak – Feb 6, 2020 — Transcript

UnHerd – Malcolm Turnbull – Don’t Count Trump Out – Jun 12, 2020 — Transcript

UnHerd – Why Lockdowns are the Wrong Policy – Swedish Expert Prof Johan Giesecke – Apr 17, 2020 — Transcript

UnHerd – Scott Atlas – I’m Disgusted and Dismayed – Oct 20, 2020 — Transcript

Ivor Cummins – Amazing Debate on Lockdown Ideology Versus Scientific Approach – Unmissable! – Oct 23, 2020 — Transcript

UnHerd – Prof Tim Spector – Hopes of a Vaccine Will Lead to More Lockdowns – Nov 11, 2020 — Transcript

 

 

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