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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Britain Abandons the Falklands</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">to Protect Israel</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Fri, Mar 15, 2024</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, says:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>The British navy used to be the envy of the world, it is now a laughing stock – underfunded, lacking manpower and burdened with equipment not fit for purpose. But what is left of the Royal Navy is now being re-assigned away from protecting British interests and is instead being used for the benefit of a foreign nation.</em>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><a style="color: #ff0000;" href="https://odysee.com/@MarkCollett:6/20240315---Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-to-Protect-Israel:6">https://odysee.com/@MarkCollett:6/20240315&#8212;Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-to-Protect-Israel:6</a></span></h3>
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The British navy used to be the envy of the world, it is now a laughing stock – underfunded, lacking manpower and burdened with equipment not fit for purpose. But what is left of the Royal Navy is now being re-assigned away from protecting British interests and is instead being used for the benefit of a foreign nation.<br />
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<p>On April 2nd 1982, Argentinian forces invaded and occupied the Falkland Islands – a British territory situated in the South Atlantic Ocean. This sparked a war that lasted 74 days and left 255 British service personnel dead and another 775 wounded.</p>
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<p>Since then, it has been government policy to for Royal Navy vessels to patrol the South Atlantic and for the Falkland Islands to be reinforced by both the Royal Navy and the Royal Airforce.</p>
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<p>However, on the 2nd of February of this year, the Telegraph reported the following, and I quote:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Royal Navy has abandoned major warship patrols of the Falkland Islands because of ship shortages.”</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Royal-Navy-scraps4574.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35231" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Royal-Navy-scraps4574.jpg" alt="" width="654" height="649" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Royal-Navy-scraps4574.jpg 654w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Royal-Navy-scraps4574-600x595.jpg 600w" sizes="(max-width: 654px) 100vw, 654px" /></a></p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Despite an official policy to patrol the South Atlantic, a major British warship has not visited the area for almost seven years, leaving the islands’ defence to a small patrol vessel and four RAF Typhoons, the Telegraph understands.”</span></h3>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Rishi Sunak is facing calls to review the Falklands’ security after the new Argentinian government announced plans to buy fighter jets, submarines and warships, raising fears that Argentina could launch a fresh invasion in a ‘repeat of 1982’.”</span></h3>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The area around the Falklands was previously patrolled by a frigate or destroyer with anti-ship and air defence missiles, but Navy bosses have downgraded the islands’ naval protection to HMS Forth, an offshore patrol vessel with one 30 mm cannon. Four Typhoon fighter jets remain on the island, but one is not operational.”</span></h3>
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<p>End quote. The thrust of the article is that Britain’s armed forces – particularly the Royal Navy – are now in such a state of disarray and shambles thanks to years of poor policy making, a lack of funding and terrible choices when it comes to the procurement of hardware, that they are no longer fit for purpose.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Royal-Navy-sub-4575.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35232" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Royal-Navy-sub-4575.jpg" alt="" width="785" height="489" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Royal-Navy-sub-4575.jpg 785w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Royal-Navy-sub-4575-600x374.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Royal-Navy-sub-4575-768x478.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 785px) 100vw, 785px" /></a></p>
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<p>This has apparently placed Britain in the position where it can no longer secure or protect its overseas territories, and certain territories such as the Falkland Islands are now effectively at the mercy of Britain’s enemies.</p>
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<p>But surely Argentina wouldn’t dare to invade again, would they?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Argentiina-4576.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35225" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Argentiina-4576.jpg" alt="" width="632" height="597" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Argentiina-4576.jpg 632w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Argentiina-4576-600x567.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 632px) 100vw, 632px" /></a></p>
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<p>Well, Argentina’s new President, Javier Milei, might be thinking that now is a good time for Argentina to have another attempt at a military incursion. The Telegraph goes on, and I quote:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Javier Milei, the new Argentinian president, has said that his country has non-negotiable sovereignty over the Falklands and pledged to force the British Government to release its claim through diplomatic channels. The Foreign Office has rebuffed his efforts.”</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Argentina-F16-sale-4577.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35226" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Argentina-F16-sale-4577.jpg" alt="" width="555" height="544" /></a></p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Since taking office last month, Mr Milei has reportedly approved a US-backed deal to acquire 24 F-16 fighter jets from Denmark, and has launched a review into plans to buy three submarines and a stock of warships from France or Germany.”</span></h3>
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<p>End quote. It appears that Argentina under their new President is vastly increasing their military budget and investing substantially in new military hardware. And all this comes at a time when it has been widely reported that Argentina has issued a statement asking for the UK to reopen negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falklands.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Cameron-trip-Milei-4578.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35227" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Cameron-trip-Milei-4578.jpg" alt="" width="630" height="547" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Cameron-trip-Milei-4578.jpg 630w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Cameron-trip-Milei-4578-600x521.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[03:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And just for the record, Javier Milei is being touted as Argentina’s “<em>first jewish president</em>” – as he is a recent covert. I read this from Bloomberg, and I quote:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Javier Milei’s incoming administration is shaping up to be one of the most pro-Israel governments in Argentina’s history, at a time other Latin American nations have spoken out against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s strategy to eradicate Hamas.”</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Melei-convert-to-jew-4579.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35229" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Melei-convert-to-jew-4579.jpg" alt="" width="523" height="547" /></a></p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“A week after winning the Nov. 19 runoff election, Milei arrived in New York on Monday morning for his first trip abroad as president-elect and headed straight to the tomb of a orthodox jewish rabbi in Queens. Dawning a kippah and all black outfit, he visited Menachem Mendel Schneerson’s grave to pay respects.”</span></h3>
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<p>End quote. But what can our government do about this? After all, if we don’t have a serviceable Navy, what could be done?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-UK-Navy-few-sailors-4580.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35235" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-UK-Navy-few-sailors-4580.jpg" alt="" width="655" height="613" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-UK-Navy-few-sailors-4580.jpg 655w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-UK-Navy-few-sailors-4580-600x562.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 655px) 100vw, 655px" /></a></p>
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<p>But wait a second, what’s this? I read from iNews, and I quote:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The UK has sent a third Royal Navy warship to the Red Sea to bolster the international defence against attacks on commercial shipping by Houthi rebels.”</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Red-Sea-Houthi-attacks-4581.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35230" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Red-Sea-Houthi-attacks-4581.jpg" alt="" width="645" height="615" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Red-Sea-Houthi-attacks-4581.jpg 645w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Red-Sea-Houthi-attacks-4581-600x572.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 645px) 100vw, 645px" /></a></p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“In an escalation of the UK’s military presence in the region, HMS Richmond left Plymouth on Friday to join HMS Diamond, a destroyer, and the frigate HMS Lancaster.”</span></h3>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Defence Secretary Grant Shapps announced the move in the Commons as he warned the Iranian-backed Houthi fighters they will face ‘consequences’ if they continue to disrupt waterways, and that planning is under way for a range of scenarios.”</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Red-Sea-HMAS-Diamond-4582.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35224" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Red-Sea-HMAS-Diamond-4582.jpg" alt="" width="672" height="610" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Red-Sea-HMAS-Diamond-4582.jpg 672w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-Red-Sea-HMAS-Diamond-4582-600x545.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 672px) 100vw, 672px" /></a></p>
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<p>End quote. Britain DOES still have a serviceable navy, but currently, Defence Secretary Grant Schapps is busy reassigning every available vessel to the Middle East in order to support the state of Israel. So, whilst the Falkland Islands lay unprotected and whilst our southern border is constantly being crossed by a veritable army of illegal migrants, our Defence Secretary is prioritising the needs of a foreign nation – how curious!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-UK-aircraft-carrier-to-Red-Sea-4583.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35234" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-UK-aircraft-carrier-to-Red-Sea-4583.jpg" alt="" width="669" height="640" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-UK-aircraft-carrier-to-Red-Sea-4583.jpg 669w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Mark-Collett-Britain-Abandons-the-Falklands-UK-aircraft-carrier-to-Red-Sea-4583-600x574.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 669px) 100vw, 669px" /></a></p>
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<p>But believe it or not, it actually gets worse. Earlier this year it was revealed that Grant Schapps was engaged in discussions to send one of Britain’s two aircraft carriers to the region as well. However, the only reason that this has not yet happened is because the HMS Queen Elizabeth is a floating pile of scrap that has rusted so badly since it entered active service in 2020 that it currently undergoing repairs. And whilst undergoing repairs it also happened to burst into flames!</p>
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<p>So, the reality of the matter is that YES, the Royal Navy is no longer fit for purpose, but what is left of our Navy is no longer being used for British interests.</p>
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<p>Now let’s have a quick look at Britain’s Defence Secretary – and you probably guessed by now, Schapps is jewish!</p>
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<p>Here we have another seemingly clear-cut case of a jewish politician in the UK doing what is best for Israel, rather than doing what is best for Britain. But there is a further plot twist to this, as Schapps might also be doing a favour for Argentina’s first jewish President, as it appears he is handing the Falkland Islands to him on a plate.</p>
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<p>At a time when the mainstream media regularly runs stories about Russian and Chinese interference in Western politics, it seems there is one nation that constantly interferes in Western affairs – yet talking about that nation, and the power it wields over the west, is the greatest taboo of our time!</p>
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<p>@jWisdom37<br />
6 days ago<br />
Every single time comes to mind</p>
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<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
6 days ago(edited)<br />
Zionists run the UK and the entire Western World, whatever they decide is what will happen. The actual politicians are just a puppet show to distract from this.</p>
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ThinRedLine<br />
6 days ago<br />
well said</p>
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silverbullet<br />
4 days ago<br />
Yep.<br />
https://www.thejc.com/news/politics/rishi-reshuffle-the-jewish-movers-and-shakers-in-sunaks-new-government-fr5fzhht</p>
<p>@random<br />
6 days ago(edited)<br />
how did the two 4chan sayings go when it comes down to the jews?<br />
with Jews you lose<br />
Hitler did nothing wrong<br />
god those post where way ahead of their time and clearly facts at this point</p>
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Zakjansen<br />
6 days ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2721.png" alt="✡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f47f.png" alt="👿" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2721.png" alt="✡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@random<br />
6 days ago<br />
jews are evil but there no satanist.<br />
they are rats who learn how to play mind games with fools.<br />
and they love to backstab everyone even their own supporters.<br />
most jews in power are scum bags.</p>
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Peak Aussieman<br />
6 days ago<br />
The British ruling class may not view Israel as a hostile power, but that doesn&#8217;t mean Israel&#8217;s ruling class doesn&#8217;t view the UK as a hostile power.</p>
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ThinRedLine<br />
6 days ago<br />
so true</p>
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<p>@AlbionForever<br />
6 days ago<br />
Don&#8217;t forget, during the Falklands war, Israel sold French manufactured missiles to the Argentines that were used to sink British warships.</p>
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<p>@ShapiroShekelberg<br />
6 days ago<br />
Exocet</p>
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fLoPpA<br />
4 days ago(edited)<br />
I have a feeling the Israelis played on both sides of that conflict. Britain was leaving it&#8217;s people to the wolves in Africa (Rhodesian, South Africa, Kenya, etc.) and they only then pursue a war when it was against another mostly White country (at the time)? Something to me doesn&#8217;t seem right.<br />
Jews now run the now majority non-white Argentina and U.K, therefore it&#8217;s okay to move ships to do bullshit in the Red Sea.</p>
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<p>@Carlota<br />
6 days ago<br />
Britain has been controlled by the international bankers for the last 100 years. Literally a puppet state, that now is jailing innocent dissidents for legal stickers&#8230; #FreeSamMelia</p>
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
4 days ago<br />
More like 350 years I think but especially after (((Victoria))).</p>
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<p>@Carlota<br />
4 days ago<br />
Thank you for the correction. I knew it was longer than 100 years but didn&#8217;t know when it started. I didn&#8217;t want to say anything untrue so I was intentionally very conservative in my estimation.</p>
<p>@Grumpole<br />
6 days ago<br />
The puppets have to protect their owners interests.</p>
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MichaelB<br />
6 days ago<br />
PA is the best of Britain! I wish we had a PA in the USA.</p>
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<p>@SammichLubber<br />
6 days ago<br />
Pennsylvania?</p>
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ThinRedLine<br />
6 days ago<br />
very cheeky <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f609.png" alt="😉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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All Govs are Zionist Occupied<br />
6 days ago<br />
jews control White governments.</p>
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<p>@random<br />
6 days ago<br />
jews want to run every country.<br />
and then bankrupt theme or start racial wars.<br />
they already run the media and the banks.</p>
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Captain Myles Keogh<br />
6 days ago(edited)<br />
This is a non story. A Zionist Jew now runs Argentina and so the Falklands are safe and that is why ZOG UK is not worried.</p>
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<p>@random<br />
6 days ago<br />
well, Britten and France did create Israel so i Gussie the day has come how Israel has no use for there useful idiots they put in power.</p>
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anti nwos , anti invasions<br />
6 days ago<br />
looks like the waterloo scam by teh jews in the fiance ,really took them hard and deep .. they are completely enslaved by them , king is only a facade now, sure an hig ranking freemasons , but the real king is the sionism</p>
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ThinRedLine<br />
6 days ago<br />
greatest ally</p>
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Alan B&#8217;stard M P<br />
6 days ago<br />
Schapps is a Jew</p>
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<p>@ShapiroShekelberg<br />
6 days ago<br />
Brit warships will end up getting knocked around be Houthi hypersonic missiles.</p>
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ExposeFlyers.com<br />
6 days ago<br />
NO ONE SURPRISED BY UK BEING A BIG CUCKOLD LIKE USA.</p>
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AurigaBooks<br />
6 days ago<br />
Stop the JEWnocide<br />
<iframe class="wp-embedded-content" sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" title="(((Jewnocidal Maniacs)))" src="https://odysee.com/%24/embed/%40AurigaBooks%3Ae%2Fgenocide%3A53#?secret=z5HsnIvERU" data-secret="z5HsnIvERU"></iframe></p>
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<p>@NetandYoohoo<br />
6 days ago<br />
Ey professor, what Falkland islands are we talking about here?</p>
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<p>@swarogrodperun<br />
6 days ago<br />
don&#8217;t worry, Milei is a good goy so he won&#8217;t move on the Falklands while the Falklands garrison is helping The Middle East&#8217;s Only Democracy (TM)</p>
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Soothsayer<br />
6 days ago(edited)<br />
Good one Mark :thumbs_up:</p>
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You can&#8217;t fix stupid&#8230;<br />
3 days ago<br />
Grant Schapps is a member of the tribe &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;what a surprise &#8230;..NOT</p>
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Cubit<br />
5 days ago<br />
All geopolitical theater, Argentina has been conquered hence why the British don&#8217;t have to worry about the contested Falkland for the time being and they&#8217;re shifting resources to the middle east for a future conflict with Iran</p>
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<p>@SPWKarlsson<br />
6 days ago<br />
[ PROTECTIONISM IS A CRIME<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> &#8211; Dutch Election Winner Geert Wilders Gets BLOCKED, &#8220;Not being Prime Minister is Unfair, Undemocratic&#8221; ]</p>
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Captain Myles Keogh<br />
6 days ago<br />
He is another controlled Zionist asset</p>
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
4 days ago<br />
Even Cuck Wilders is too much for them.</p>
<p>@JackHandy<br />
12 hours ago<br />
That navy doesn&#8217;t defend you, White man. It&#8217;s a tool of White genocide.<br />
Shut it down.</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
4 days ago<br />
Well Argentina is now part of ZioNato anyway with their new cuck president that came out of nowhere.</p>
<p>silverbullet<br />
4 days ago<br />
https://www.thejc.com/news/politics/rishi-reshuffle-the-jewish-movers-and-shakers-in-sunaks-new-government-fr5fzhht</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Elon Musk, head of Tesla, SpaceX, X (formerly Twitter), etc., is at the Texas border interviewing a local member of Congress, a sheriff and others on the insane lack of border control allowing millions of illegals to enter America, with zero being deported.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The West is being deliberately flooded with so-called “<em>asylum</em>” seekers with the intent to destroy it and it is very encouraging, dare say, incredible, that someone of Musk’s importance is doing his part in drawing attention to it.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> There are law enforcement officers that want to be enforcing our laws, and they’re not able to.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. They’re just not allowed to enforce laws.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> No, this is their new normal. Thousands of people every day!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Thousands of people every day. Yeah. All right. Well, I can’t really switch around.</p>
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<p>So anyway, that’s like, I don’t know if you can sort of see that group, but that’s a group there.</p>
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<p>Obviously Elon here. I’m at Eagle Pass, just arrived. And we’re just going to go around and talk to the major officials and law enforcement and whatnot that are here and just kind of eyeball the situation, get a sense for what’s going on, so you can get the kind of, like, the real story.</p>
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<p>This is real time, unfiltered. There’s no preconditions, no nothing. This is what you see is what I see.</p>
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<p>So it could be, like, a little bit herky jerky at times, because this is not like a piece that’s being filmed and then subsequently edited. And whatnot. This is live. This is the raw feed you’re seeing right here.</p>
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<p>All right. With that I should actually, let me preface this by also saying that as an immigrant to the United States, I’m extremely pro-immigrant. And I believe that we need a greatly expanded legal immigration system. And that we should let anyone in the country who is hardworking and honest and will be a contributor to the United States. We should have expedited legal approval for anyone who sort of falls in that category.</p>
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<p>But then, by the same token, we should also not be allowing people in the country if they’re breaking the law! That doesn’t make sense. The law is there for a reason.</p>
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<p>So I think we want to do both things. Smooth out legal immigration and then stop sort of a flow of people that is of such a magnitude that is actually leading to a collapse of social services. Where even America’s largest city, New York, is buckling under the pressure of just how many illegal immigrants are going to New York. If New York can’t handle it, well, pretty much no part of the country can.</p>
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<p>So if we don’t do something soon, we’re just going to have, like I said, a collapse in social services, as we’re already seeing in New York.</p>
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<p>So with that, let me move to introducing some of the people here. Just basically introduce yourself.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yeah. I’m Tony Gonzales. I’m the local Member of Congress here. I represent 823 miles of the southern border, 42% of the southern border, two thirds of the Texas-Mexico border. I really appreciate Elon coming down and giving an unfiltered depiction of what’s happening on the border.</p>
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<p>We feel us along the border, we feel very abandoned. And there’s some solutions, some real solutions! A big part of this is being able to share stories that no one hears about.</p>
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<p>So you’re going to hear from sheriffs, you’re going to hear from judges, ranchers and just see some other folks.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Let’s just see if this <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[camera]</strong></span> is still working. Let’s see. Still working. I was a bit worried that so many people might go on it that it crashes.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> We’re back live. So I uploaded like a 15 minutes video, but I think the cell connection here is not super good. It’d be helpful to have some Starlink maps.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yeah. There you go.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> I’ll be uploading the 15 minutes video as soon as I get a good connection. And hopefully this live stream is working reasonably well.</p>
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<p>All right, well, let’s just continue. Sorry for the delay.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzalez:</strong> Yeah, no, that’s okay.</p>
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<p>Let’s continue over here at the Border Patrol. Border Patrol. And you’ll see it, I mean, right here under the bridge, you’re seeing hundreds of people getting processed. And this is every single day!</p>
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<p>And they’ll go to another soft sided facility that has thousands of people. Right now it’s over 5,000 people. Over here to the Right, literally under a bridge. A lot of trade happens here in the city.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay, so it’s just sort of like that’s a bridge. And there’s like people getting processed and then they come across on the trains over there.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yeah, exactly! It’s like an initial intake spot and then they’ll send them through, but it’s nonstop all day long.</p>
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<p>Have you noticed all the Border Patrol agents? The number one thing that Border Patrol agents ask of me is to get back out in the field. They don’t want to be here processing people. They want to be catching bad actors. And they’re not. And you’ve got dozens of them here.</p>
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<p>And this is probably the biggest issue. If we can do that, then we keep America safe from Fentanyl and opioids and some of these things that are killing all Americans.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay, just go over some of the numbers that we talked about in the video that I’ll upload later. There’s, roughly, correct me if I’m wrong, about two and a half million processed legals per year. And then it’s somewhat debatable how many are sort of unprocessed, but maybe it’s like in total close, maybe four or 5 million immigrants per year. This number has reached all time highs.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> All time highs!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> All time highs. And it’s continuing to increase?</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> And nothing as far as you know, has been done about it at the federal level?</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Nothing! Simple things, common sense things that we can enact can make a difference today.</p>
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<p>Simple things like raising the level of credible fear many people are seeking asylum are not going to qualify for asylum.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Let’s move to where you can get a better, I don’t know, maybe like this way? I don’t know. Sure. Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yeah. So right now, last month, there was over 200,000 people that came over illegally.</p>
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<p>So that’s in the millions. You multiply that times twelve. Here you are, two and a half million people coming over. Most of the people that are seeking asylum are not going to qualify for asylum. Nine out of ten actually are not.</p>
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<p>So one of the things that we can do is we can raise the asylum criteria.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Now, an important point is that although, as you’re saying, basically 90% do not qualify for asylum, of the 90 percent that do not qualify for asylum, how many are sent back to the country of origin?</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Zero! I mean, here in this, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay that is a real point.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> In Del Rio sector alone, you have 2,500 people coming over illegally a day and zero sending back!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Zero!</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Zero!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Not even like ten? Not even, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Nothing! So what kind of signal does that send the rest of the world?</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Is this is where you need to come, and you’re not going to be sent back?</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay, so there’s basically no repercussions.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> No repercussions! That’s the number one thing that this administration has to do. Is there has to be some repercussions.</p>
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<p>Now, it’s due process.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Make sure that people get their day in court. That I’ve been advocating that one person that does qualify for asylum, we need to make sure that they don’t get sent back to certain death or anything like that. But the nine out of ten that don’t? I mean, there has to be repercussions.</p>
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<p>And once you do that, Elon, this goes away!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> It went away for Trump, it went away for Obama, it went away for Bush, it went away for Clinton. And they’re not willing to do that. And I don’t understand why.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Well, when you reached out to the White House, what’s their response?</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Their response is:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“It is a political problem.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> What does that mean, “<em>political</em>”?</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> They think it’s, &#8230;, you know, the Republicans are blaming the Democrats. Democrats are blaming the Republicans.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> They think it’s not real?</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> It’s not real. It’s a “<em>political problem</em>”.</p>
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<p>Honestly, what’s working the most is these Mayors from these cities, they’re all many times Democrat, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Mayor of New York, in fact!</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Mayor of New York, very, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> The governor of New York!</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> The governor of New York! Exactly! The Mayor of El Paso, these places, anywhere, anything that, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> This is not a partisan issue.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> It’s not. It’s a policy issue! It’s a policy issue! And we can be humane. And we can be all these things, and we can protect those that qualify for asylum, but we also need to have repercussions for people that don’t do!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Sure. Exactly! I mean, we’re in this absurd situation where the vast majority of people are not, in fact, asylum seekers. You can actually read on Google in any language you want, what are the magic words you need to say.</p>
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<p>And then you’re automatically in the asylum sort of queue, which takes several years before you actually see anyone. And then even if you do see one, even if you are denied, you are not deported.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p>And once you do that, all that does is attract more people to come over illegally. And ultimately it undermines those that are trying to do it legally!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah. To be clear, we’re both very much in favor of expanded legal immigration.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> I think anyone who is hardworking and honest should be, and it’s really going to add to, to be a net addition to the economy. I think we should let them in.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> But I mean, what we’re seeing here are, in some cases, some pretty extreme individuals coming through.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Obviously not suggesting everyone is like this, but you’re talking about a guy who came through who had face tatoos, including tears.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Had tattooed on his face.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> When somebody tattoos a tear, it means that they have murdered someone, and they are so proud of having murdered someone that they tattoo one tear on their face for every person that they kill. Is that correct?</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> That’s exactly right.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> And this person just claimed asylum?</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Claimed asylum.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> And we just let them in?</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> We let them in.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Again, a serial murderer!</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Who is proud of their murders!</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> This is insane!</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> The other piece of it, too, is many of these people are coming from Central and South America, where culturally, it is not acceptable to have tattoos at all. Period!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Right, so it’s a big deal.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> It’s a big deal to have a tattoo. It’s an even bigger deal to have a neck tattoo and a face tatoo! That means it’s almost certain that you are culturally unacceptable wherever you came from.</p>
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<p>So there’s a lot of red flag issues that are glaring. These are people that nobody should want in their communities.</p>
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<p>I mean, I’m talking bad actors. I’m talking, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah. It’s safe to say that if somebody is a multiple murderer and proud of it, tattooing it on the face, they’re unrepentant, to say the least.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> It’s not like they try to get the tattoo removed.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> And most likely, if they were murdering people somewhere else and proud of it, they will continue in that tradition.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> That’s exactly right.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> I was in West Texas, 300 miles from the border in my district, and there was a sheriff that told me a story where two folks had come over illegally from Cuba, and they were working in the oil and gas industry. They’re making money, and they were going to go buy a truck and basically start a company in their own.</p>
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<p>And the plan was both of you put $30,000 to go buy this truck. They’re friends. They come together. The one friend shows his $30,000, and the other friend murders him. Murders him! Takes his money, dismembers his body, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Spreads it everywhere. And that’s a friend! I mean, what I’m getting at, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> I would say that’s not much of a friend.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> That’s not much of a friend. If you’re willing to do that to somebody, like, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Full on, like Breaking Bad situation.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Exactly! You just don’t know. And that’s what people are scared! People in American, citizens are scared! They just don’t feel safe. They don’t know who these people are. They don’t want to assume. But they also don’t want to not assume. They have children. It’s a safety issue.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. And not only is there no end of sight, but this issue is accelerating rapidly.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes! Yes! And it’s getting worse! Many people that are coming over now, before, they would have someone in the United States to go to, or they would have money. The folks that are coming over now are impoverished. They have no money, and they have nowhere to go.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> So they’re trying to scrape together some money to take a bus trip to the next destination, if you will. It’s a bad situation all the way around sand a large part of it is because the administration is attracting these folks to come knowing full well they’re not going to have any of the, &#8230; It’s a dead end road that they’re going down.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> This sounds like complete madness.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> It is!</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Imagine if you have to live it every day! Not only is it getting mad, it’s becoming normal! That is what I worry about.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Normalizing insanity!</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> That is why.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> You’re living in a clown world here!</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Ha, ha! You coming down was so important! Does this look normal to you? Does any of this look normal?</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Well, and the train that’s coming across, that’s basically where people hop on top of the train and.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Hop on top of the train.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Let’s see. I think the sheriff was, &#8230; I don’t know if the Sheriff’s still here? But you’re telling us about how they’re really pretty expert at sort of turning the brakes on the train.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> So it’s dialed, basically.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> It is. You’ve got real commerce mixed in with illegal traffic, and so it muddies the situation for everybody.</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> How about, what can we do about it?</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah, what can we do about it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> What can we do about, how does this end? We have a government.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah, we have a crisis. What’s the recommendation?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[13:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> We have a government that’s about to shut down, and it’s going to shut down. I think there’s an opportunity if we can reopen the government and there be real solutions attached with some border security measures in there, that are non-partisan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’m not talking really crazy stuff one way or another. I’m talking something everybody can agree on. This could be a win-win for America. We just need the Right package to be crafted with some sensible things. You raise the level of credible fear. You turn on the repatriation flights. So at least some people that are coming over, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Above zero.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Above zero would be a good start!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the immigration judges are so critical to it. You surge immigration judges, and that way when somebody comes in, they get their case heard immediately, not seven years from now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You do that for a month, and all of a sudden the words out:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Hey, the border is closed! Go through another route.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay, let’s see. Hey, guys! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[media people]</strong></span> How’s it going?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Sheriff’s been obviously busy, so I don’t know if they’re still here or anything or they have to go. Yeah, they have to take off. Okay, well, I think I got them on recording.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> All right. What else do you think we should do?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> How about some Border Patrol agents?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay, sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> These are Federal because that was from the county standpoint.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Hey, guys, are you cool being on camera at all?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Federal guy:</strong> We’re not, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. Don’t worry about it. Sure. The camera is pointed at me, so don’t worry about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Federal guy:</strong> Thank you. Thank you man.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> This is the part where a lot of folks are frustrated because they want to be working.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> I mean, they’re law enforcement officers that want to be enforcing our laws, and they’re not able to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. They’re just not allowed to enforce laws?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> No. This is their new normal, and that is not a long term winning strategy for a positive part of the Border Patrol, Customs and Border Protection.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. Well, anyone else we think we can talk to?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> I think we’ve, &#8230; Let’s walk a little bit further down this way. I think the part that, &#8230; This is a golf course.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> So to the Left, you have a golf course, an actual functioning golf course.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzalez:</strong> And to the Right, you have a processing center, a mobile processing center.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> The other piece of it, too, is the transportation. Like, how does this all work? Well, you got to have water. You got to have food. You got to have vehicles, buses. None of that is free. Somebody has to pay for that. And who’s paying for it is oftentimes the Mayor, or the county, or Border Patrol agents or Customs and Border Protection is paying for buses instead of something else.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:54]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. These people are all waiting to get processed, right? Sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hey, guys. How’s it going?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> This is the shot right here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> These people you see how orderly it is?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah. It’s very orderly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> It’s like an orderly, chaotic, unruly event that’s happening.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> And it’s wrong! It’s wrong for everybody involved.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> We’re not talking one or two people. We’re talking thousands of people every day!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Thousands of people every day. Yeah. All right. Okay. I’m going to end the live stream now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[And now here’s the 15 min video Elon mentioned.]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> The first person I’d like to hear from is Randy Brown, who is the sheriff of Medina County. It’s about an hour away from, about 100 miles away from here, and Randy’s behind us now. You want to come over here, Randy? And just the question I have is, what’s happening in your county?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> And just imagine, like, you’re just talking to America here, and people just want to understand exactly what’s going on, but assume that people do not know what’s going on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Randy:</strong> Well, you got to go back sometime. And whenever the open border policies from the White House kind of got thrown out there, we’ve been overrun.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> How long ago was that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Randy:</strong> What year was that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Two years ago.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Randy:</strong> Two years ago. We’ve been battling it for two years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. So you’re saying there’s been an open border policy essentially for the past two years?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Randy:</strong> It was an invitation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> An invitation?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Randy:</strong> That’s how I read it! That’s how it was told from the White House.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Randy:</strong> They don’t have a clue what’s going on here, I don’t think. Because if they did, maybe they would care. Maybe they wouldn’t. I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> How does the train impact you? Because the trains have been a big story lately. Just over here. This is kind of where it starts, Elon, where you see all these thousands of people on a train. This is where they’re coming through. But it doesn’t end here. It just starts here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Medina county is where they’re going to make it to the big cities like Pen,&#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Randy:</strong> Two major rail lines come through my county and on those illegals rides. They actually control the trains because they know how to crank down the brake on the car. So when it passes a heat sensor, the conductor has to stop the train. Then the illegals get off, the people come to get them. And all the stolen vehicles are stealing from all over the country. Nearly every one of them is in a stolen vehicle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Randy:</strong> So then we get involved. And then they’re trespassing on private property.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[18:21]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Randy:</strong> And when you do get behind one of them, they run through fences, they run over equipment. Irrigation stuff is important to the farmers. They run over their equipment. They tear it up. We tear up vehicles trying to hold a line. We’re trying to hold the line 100 miles away. Because the line is not getting held here!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s not that complicated to close the border! Really isn’t! And that’s the aggravating part. I think any sheriff will tell you the same thing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> All right. Well, again, just assume that this is really just for the general public.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so we want to just frame the situation because not everyone knows magnitude. And is this normal, or is it like, &#8230; So just if you could just frame the situation for the general public that would be helpful.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> What terrifies me the most is we’re seeing historic numbers. Historic! 11,000 people coming over daily for the past week! Here in Eagle Pass alone, 2,500 people. Over 5,000 people in detention.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what worries me the most is this in many cases feels normal. The part that doesn’t make it out on some of the news stuff is there is a golf course. We’re literally standing in front of a golf course, and you have people playing golf as if it is normal. To the Right you have people that are coming over illegally. It is upside down!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And like Elon said earlier, I believe in legal immigration. I think legal immigration is important.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what happens is when you grant people that have come over illegally these different opportunities, you completely undermine,</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Like the stuff we were talking about in the car, the magnitude of the situation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Magnitude of it! Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> The fact that we are seeing all time highs in illegal processing, and that ramp is increasing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> So these are really important points. Because the public isn’t, &#8230; I think it’s not necessarily clear to the public. Is this normal? Or are we seeing an accelerating crisis?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> It’s not getting better. It’s getting worse! Last Friday, a week ago was a historic number! 11,000 people that came over.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> And then on Monday that number increased. Today is Thursday and that number increased! We’re only going in the wrong direction. This is a week. What happens two weeks from now, it’s the wrong way!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So basically we’re seeing unprecedented all time highs, and increasing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> And spreading. It’s not in just one area. Like it’s not just one city or one town and not even one state anymore. We’re talking about New York today, but Chicago, you’re hearing it there. LA, Denver, there’s all these other places where it’s just spreading, just continues to get bubbling up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> And just to quantify it, I think you said 2,000 a day or something. Just in this location?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yeah, just here!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[21:12]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> That’s like over 700,000 a year?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Just in this one location! Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. 700,000 illegal immigrants a year, just in this one location?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Just in this one location!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> El Paso right now. In El Paso.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah. That’s higher than the population of Wyoming by far.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. And that’s just one location. What is the total number from all locations, roughly, per year?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> In the millions. I mean, it’s literally millions!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Millions?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Millions! And those are just for the folks that we know have engaged. What about all the others?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> That’s just who was actually processed?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes! The gotaways are the ones, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah. So meaning that the actual number is much higher.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Much higher!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. That’s very important people to know that the actual number is much higher. Is the official number something like 2 million or something, or where is it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> It varies and it depends on who you ask. But I’ve seen it as high as 2.6 million. And that number just every year for the past three years has almost doubled. It was like 1.1.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Doubling year after year.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Doubling year after year. It’s compounding year after year because it’s not just one part of the world either. It’s all parts of the world that are coming! In El Paso, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> I think that’s actually important point to make because sometimes people think, well, people are coming from Mexico, but this is not the case.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzalez:</strong> No. Not the case at all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> The reality is that this is an open border for all of Earth!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> All of Earth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> So there’s roughly 350,000,000 people in the US. But there’s 8 billion people on Earth!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> This is an open border to 8 billion people!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> In fact, I believe a small minority, it’s a small percentage that are actually coming from Mexico?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> That are Mexican?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes. That’s true.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Sheriff Duche, how close are you the border? 60 miles?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Sheriff Duche:</strong> 68 miles from the border.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> 68 miles from the border.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Sheriff Duche:</strong> That’s right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> What type of nationalities are coming through your county?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Sheriff Duche:</strong> We’re seeing anywhere from Honduras, El Salvador. I believe, Ecuador and stuff like that even, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> That’s pretty much every country, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Sheriff Duche:</strong> Pretty much every country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Sheriff Duche:</strong> It’s very rare that we see anybody just from Mexico.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Oh, it’s actually rare to see anyone from Mexico?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[23:25]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Sheriff Duche:</strong> And I’m 68 miles from the border. I’m 80 miles south of here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> How big is your workforce? How big is the sheriff’s office?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Sheriff Duche:</strong> My patrol staff is only 16 strong, 16 total.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Okay, so how many do you have on call at one time?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Sheriff Duche:</strong> Maybe two at the most.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Two law enforcement officers to tackle, &#8230; I mean, some of these counties that I represent, there’s size of states and they’ve got two or three people trying to tackle it all. This is where the local community just feel completely overwhelmed because Border Patrol agents used to be the front line and now they’re here, they’re under the bridge, they’re processing folks. So they’re completely out of the game. So these law enforcement, the local law enforcement officers are carrying all the weight.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Sheriff Duche:</strong> My county alone is 1500 sq miles.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s not possible really.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Sheriff Duche:</strong> Very difficult to handle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah. Okay. It’s worth going over a bunch of things that you mentioned to me, which is like there’s almost no repatriation. This is another thing that I found surprising.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So basically once somebody gets in, they’re in! Essentially there’s in theory, repatriation, in theory flying back. And I believe he talked to the President of Guatemala and asked him, will they take people back? And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Of course.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“I’ll take every single one of them.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah, no problem.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> No problem. All you got to do is ask. Just call.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> The White House just needs to call.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Seems like that’s like not a difficult thing. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Elon. Every White House has done that. Whether it was Trump, whether it was Obama, whether it was Clinton, whether it was Bush. Every single White House has had a border issue and every single one has had to handle it the same way. By essentially going:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“We can’t let everybody in because it’s going to overwhelm us. You’re going to abide by the laws and if you don’t qualify for asylum, we’re going to send you back.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as soon as you start doing that, it alleviates the stress. This administration hasn’t done that yet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. Of the sort of roughly two and a half million that processed illegals and then it’s maybe as much as twice double that or something. I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Double that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Call it like fourish million, maybe 5 million total processed and non-processed. How many of the four or 5 million illegal immigrants are sent back to their countries every year?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> I’ll give you an example. Here in Del Rio. Del Rio sector is one of nine sectors, okay. We’re getting over about 2,500 people coming over illegally a day and we are repatriating or sending zero back! Zero!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Zero?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Zero!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Zero is quite a small number!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Exactly! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. Just literally zero!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzalez:</strong> Zero!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> So basically there’s no repatriation?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> What is happening is, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> This is insane!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> What is happening is at best they will send people to other parts of the border. That’s back to where the country of origin. That’s de Laredo or El Paso in worst case scenario, and I want to bring in the Mayor here. The worst case scenario is where they’re at. You bubble to a point where there’s nowhere else to send them. So what you end up doing is you release them into the street.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Imagine what that does to your local community. This is the Mayor of Eagle Pass.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Hi, how you doing?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Tolando Salina:</strong> Tolando Salina, the Mayor of the city of Eagle Pass. And it’s been a rough, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[26:50]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Nice town.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Tolando Salina:</strong> Thank you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah, just FYI, in case people are wondering whether Eagle Pass is like a rundown town, it’s actually really clean and nice. Just FYI.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Tolando Salina:</strong> Thank you so much!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We’re a city of 28,000 people, and we’ve had 19,000, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Sorry, maybe turn the camera, I suppose.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Tolando Salina:</strong> A city of 28,000 people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We’ve had over 19,000 people in the last about ten days come in. So we don’t have the resources.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Wait, more people are coming in by far, it’s exceeding the population of the town on a regular basis?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Tolando Salina:</strong> Absolutely! We don’t have the resources.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Will you talk about the hospital?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Tolando Salina:</strong> Absolutely!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> I think that’s a piece that a lot of people are missing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Tolando Salina:</strong> Eagle Pass has one hospital, so you have thousands of people visiting this hospital. People are getting frustrated. The safety is taking a toll. People can’t get medical care, our local constituents, because they’re treating people that are coming in from other countries.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah, there’s only so many doctors.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Tolando Salina:</strong> There’s only so many doctors. Only so much we can do. The thing is, they’re coming in without consequence, and the word gets out back to their countries:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: purple;">“Hey, come to the US! Come to Eagle Pass!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Come one, come all kind of situation. And it’s disappointing that we don’t have a reform or we can solve this issue.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> The other thing about this too Elon, is it should not be a partisan issue. I get it. The politics in it,</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yeah, there’s certainly a temptation to make it a partisan issue.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> 100%!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this is across the board. I don’t care if you’re a D, an R, if you vote, don’t vote, urban America, rural America, everybody’s impacted the same way. When the crisis hits your town, it’s like a hurricane. When a hurricane hits you, everybody gets washed out, and it’s no different.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think there’s an opportunity here if we can message it in a manner, &#8230; This is about solutions. Hey, I get the finger pointing. It’s easy to say why we got here. It’s like, how do we just get out of here? And I think there are some real tangible solutions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay, so I guess the first part of this video, and I’ll take a minute to upload it once it’s done sure. Is just to frame the problem so American people understand the magnitude of the problem, how quickly it is growing, and that there is basically no solution currently being implemented.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[28:57]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay. And just to understand. You were telling me sometimes people coming through, they have gang tattoos, and they have the tear tattoo on the part. I’m not sure. Maybe everyone knows what tattooing a tear on your face means.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> It’s not good!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> It’s not good!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> I visited the facility here in Eagle Pass on Monday, and there was a guy that had face and neck tattoos, hand tattoos, and he had teardrops.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> A teardrop is when you kill someone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> When you kill someone, and then you wear it as like a, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> As a badge of pride! You’re actually happy that you’ve killed someone, and you want people to know it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Right!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> And when someone like that comes through and they say they’re an asylum seeker, what do we do?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> So I’m in there, and I asked the Border Patrol chief, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> We’re talking about, basically a serial murderer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes. Because he has multiple, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> A serial murderer and proud of it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yes. This is not somebody you want baby-sitting, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Not subtle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> No, not at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so when I asked the Border Patrol chief, I go:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Hey, what’s up with this guy?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he asked him in Spanish, he goes:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Hey, have you ever been arrested before?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He goes:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh, of course not.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“No, no! I’ve never been arrested.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so what the Border Patrol chief said, he goes, we do not have records from people from Venezuela.</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p>So we can’t track. Unless they were arrested in the United States we really don’t know who some of these actors are. Many people you’ll see are fleeing poverty. I get that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> But there are others that are fleeing incarceration.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Yes, we are basically, it seems like the place where you can go to get away from the law.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tony Gonzales:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Okay, well, I think with that, I see kind of a group over there that’s coming in. So I don’t know if you could really see it. I’ll try to switch it around.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, I can’t really switch around.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So anyway, that’s like, I don’t know if you can sort of see that group, but that’s a group there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Elon’s recording just ends here.]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[31:28]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="TT3-07"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> Youtube Comments</span></h3>
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<p>(Comments as of 9/30/2023 = 244)</p>
<p>@wenyulian9584<br />
21 hours ago<br />
It got to be stopped! 100% agree with Elon.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@rogerstarkey5390<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Got to be CHANGED.<br />
1</p>
<p>@user-vv4om8cd6r<br />
21 hours ago<br />
So Elon is doing what our President and Vice President won&#8217;t do &#8211; seeing the border for himself and asking intelligent questions.<br />
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<p>16 replies</p>
<p>@rampz826<br />
21 hours ago (edited)<br />
Not a good idea when he owns Tesla and we are depending on it for our future. I want people who have a high following to speak on certain topics and if I wasn’t investing in Tesla I would be supporting him for this but he’s gonna get himself canceled<br />
2</p>
<p>@plantstho6599<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Vote Musk<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ULTRAPRAGMATIST-gd2se<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Too bad his hats on backwards <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f920.png" alt="🤠" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@mathijs9365<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Sorry. Elon is not the Messiah.</p>
<p>@stacywalker<br />
15 hours ago (edited)<br />
@rampz826 he can’t get canceled when he owns his own social media, space company, tech/car company, digging company, brain chip company, and now new Ai company. Too many ways for him to stay relevant and important to be canceled<br />
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<p>@yehimstone5492<br />
14 hours ago<br />
​ @rampz826 Elon is gaining 76 million conservative fans<br />
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<p>@ken-mb5cp<br />
8 hours ago<br />
@mathijs9365 No one said he was.</p>
<p>@rayarias7127<br />
8 hours ago<br />
@rampz826 do you really think that Elon has to be in the Factories 24/7 for business continue? Since you are an investor, be patience, or you just want result now, now? If you are, better get off investing in the stock market.</p>
<p>@rampz826<br />
8 hours ago<br />
@rayarias7127 I’m not saying he has to be in the factory 24/7 im saying him getting Involved in politics will get him canceled .. learn to read before you speak</p>
<p>@rampz826<br />
8 hours ago<br />
@stacywalker yes he can <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> people would just stop using his companies and they will go bust</p>
<p>@rampz826<br />
6 hours ago<br />
@rayarias7127 someone called mehdi Hassan is literally trying to get Elon musk canceled over offensive tweets as we speak <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I’ve just saw it then so you were wrong</p>
<p>@sarahsalter530<br />
6 hours ago<br />
@ULTRAPRAGMATIST-gd2se maybe he prefers that way<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@stacywalker<br />
6 hours ago (edited)<br />
@rampz826 do you think people think like social media In Real life? You can’t simply stop using his satellite <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4e1.png" alt="📡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> internet Starlink in rural areas, or his rockets <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f680.png" alt="🚀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> for payload to NASA, or his cars (because they are still the best EVs) the world doesn’t just revolve around “social outrage” people have a need for products even if they don’t like the CEO <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@CC-yr2nx<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Elon is fantastic. The courage it takes to do this is incredible! Bravo!!!<br />
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<p>5 replies</p>
<p>@54woodsgirl<br />
9 hours ago<br />
He cares. About usa. About people. Everything</p>
<p>@ken-mb5cp<br />
9 hours ago (edited)<br />
@54woodsgirl He should go talk to the immigrants as well. Most are probably good people. With bodyguards of course.</p>
<p>@54woodsgirl<br />
9 hours ago<br />
We’re a nation of laws and we need to be following our laws, so yes, I’m sure Elaine would be happy to talk to the immigrants, but the law still needs to be followed and it’s not</p>
<p>@ken-mb5cp<br />
8 hours ago<br />
@54woodsgirl Sure we need to weed out the bad ones.</p>
<p>@bobbyvu9083<br />
19 hours ago<br />
I can&#8217;t believe that any ordinary people could hate Elon.<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@engr_e<br />
3 hours ago<br />
You said the key word….Ordinary. The haters are npcs.</p>
<p>@user-fg7kq8gk9e<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Matt, thanks for showing this important video. It&#8217;s good that Elon showed this and asked questions and clarified his understanding for the audience watching. This is not and should not be a partisan issue and needs to be resolved in a non-partisan way. The sooner the better!<br />
24</p>
<p>@mikegagnon1<br />
20 hours ago<br />
I cannot believe how amazing Elon is.<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@ibberman<br />
19 hours ago (edited)<br />
He&#8217;s way too gentle on the numbers. Talk to Victor Davis Hanson.<br />
1</p>
<p>@ULTRAPRAGMATIST-gd2se<br />
17 hours ago<br />
VDH rules<br />
1</p>
<p>@clydedeloach9066<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Matt, Thanks for distributing this investigative inquiry by Elon Musk. It is both disturbing and informative at the same time.<br />
9</p>
<p>@rodneypayne9516<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Raw, live truth, so refreshing to see first hand, no agenda, no editing, no narrative.<br />
40</p>
<p>@mikef888au1<br />
18 hours ago<br />
BRAVO! Telling the truth and 100% transparency.<br />
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<p>@ThailandTerry2024<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Too bad Elon is foreign born. He’s a multi-corporation CEO and he could easily run this country. Musk love for America is well documented as well as professed. Musk believes in democracy and in America’s positive future …<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@cherylnagy126<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Elon for Governor of New York <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ken-mb5cp<br />
8 hours ago<br />
When someone asked him if he could be president he said “not officially”.</p>
<p>@cherylnagy126<br />
8 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@leonardsensui7835<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Thank you Matt for your great effort to provide valuable information tp your viewers!<br />
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<p>@tomdarling8358<br />
20 hours ago<br />
I love Elon! Recognize the problem and apply first principles. Unfortunately, I see this as just the beginning of the migration issues. The storms are becoming bigger they show up more often. Earthquakes destroying places that have survived for thousands of years Gone of flat&#8230; Fires ripping rapid like never seen before. Hurricanes tsunami&#8217;s, it&#8217;s all coming. Bigger, stronger, more frequent than ever before.. For every degree of temperature increase.<br />
How much more does it multiply the odds of a major storm? Parts of the florida keys at 101 degrees. What fish. Pesticides and chemicals in our water. Wonder why so many people have cancer. I don&#8217;t mean to be the preacher of doom and gloom, but I have a feeling it&#8217;s going to get worse. Millions and millions of people are going to try and make their way here. They see us as some sort of sanctuary in a world of chaos. Good or bad actors, everyone should have to check in. Does anybody remember what it says at the bottom of the statue of liberty? Army corps of engineers better get their shit together. There are waves of people coming. Hundreds of millions&#8230; So far, it&#8217;s just been a trickle.. .. . Thank you, Elon, for taking us along for the ride.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f5fd.png" alt="🗽" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f5fd.png" alt="🗽" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f5fd.png" alt="🗽" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jamesmarshall3311<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Europe is being deluged in the same way. Any advanced Western country is feeling the same heat.<br />
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<p>@ken-mb5cp<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Chill out. Take a walk.</p>
<p>@daninspires<br />
20 hours ago<br />
What will work&#8230; is to help make the economy better for the countries where immigrants are coming from!<br />
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<p>@vincentdeleonjr1039<br />
18 hours ago<br />
thank you Elon for being you<br />
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<p>@williamschaefer4462<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Go Elon!!!<br />
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<p>@teslanewstonight<br />
14 hours ago<br />
This is absolutely incredible. The change is happening. Elon is leading the charge. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f916.png" alt="🤖" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f9e1.png" alt="🧡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ken-mb5cp<br />
8 hours ago (edited)<br />
Change to what? This is because of economic inequality. These people are desperate and have nothing to lose. Just try to weed out the bad ones. Good for Elon to go there.</p>
<p>@mikeford3859<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Elon has done some pretty incredible things. Hope he can make a difference with this situation.<br />
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<p>@olegprytula2881<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Elon will come and put things in order<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2705.png" alt="✅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@tedmoss<br />
21 hours ago<br />
No, he will draw attention to the problem, it is up to the voters to solve the problem.<br />
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<p>@AztecAryan<br />
19 hours ago<br />
​ @tedmoss as if we have the power to do that</p>
<p>@olegprytula2881<br />
18 hours ago (edited)<br />
@tedmoss The voters has choice:<br />
Who is first<br />
Creator Entrepreneur or politician parasite<br />
1</p>
<p>@vincentcorreia5714<br />
19 hours ago<br />
I would emigrate legally if the USA would make it easier. I would contribute and currently work hard<br />
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<p>@stacywalker<br />
15 hours ago<br />
That’s part of the problem. Yes, it should be easier. 5 years tops for first time people (some people wait 20 years)<br />
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<p>@Vagabond-Sanctuary<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Many Americans feel the same about the opposite.<br />
Every country has requirements.<br />
1</p>
<p>@ken-mb5cp<br />
8 hours ago<br />
@Vagabond-Sanctuary The grass is always greener…</p>
<p>@michaelDsherman<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Guy wasn&#8217;t even elected to office and has done way more for this country than most politicians <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@rayarias7127<br />
9 hours ago<br />
Thank 6OU Matt, this is a great eye opening video that SHOULD BE WATCHED by everyone in America. And we still have another year of this crap to follow trill the hopefully a better administration that will address the problem and looks for solutions.<br />
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<p>@ken-mb5cp<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Let’s get a moderate sane candidate. Not Trump or Biden.</p>
<p>@goodbooks5134<br />
12 hours ago<br />
It took me over 10 years to go through the process to come to America&#8230; I thank God for that and love this land of opportunity! I noticed some of those (not all) who came to America without going through the process say how bad America is&#8230; which doesn&#8217;t make any sense.<br />
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<p>@davemilke3110<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Clarity about the US/MEX where I would have least expected it. WOW!<br />
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<p>@Betrue875<br />
11 hours ago (edited)<br />
I don&#8217;t want to turn MP&#8217;s youtube channel into a political discussion, but I applaud Elon for wanting to visit the border and give a unadulterated description of the truth of how bad things are under this administration. Crime in communities that never had crime before is on the rise at an alarming rate. It is an undeclared war agains America!<br />
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<p>@jimfischman-xg4qw<br />
19 hours ago<br />
VOTE: Only way to solve these issues, do it in person.<br />
2</p>
<p>@poker4400<br />
14 hours ago<br />
I&#8217;ve always said it&#8217;s illegal to hire Illegals. Yet farmers, hotel chains, construction companies, etc. Hire them every day. Why do they not get in trouble for this??? They would not be here if the money wasn&#8217;t available.<br />
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<p>@tom19482001<br />
3 hours ago<br />
This is the most informative coverage I have ever seen about the crisis at the southern border. I hope the government will change its policies right away so that we can stop the flow of illegal immigration and start allowing legal immigrants into our country. Thank you Matt, for posting this video.</p>
<p>@bobbygilstrap9221<br />
21 hours ago<br />
That’s awesome, watching <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@brianreinicke9490<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Great video! I searched and everyone else only has tiny, tiny fraction of Elon&#8217;s live stream.<br />
1</p>
<p>@user-mi3pv7ql4g<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Fine the people that pay illegals.Make the fine very high for anyone &#8211; any company that pays them. No job, no money, no come here. But who is used the cheap labor?<br />
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<p>@takenoshortcuts<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Put on their shoes</p>
<p>@54woodsgirl<br />
9 hours ago<br />
Elon. Awesome of you to do this<br />
1</p>
<p>@0n1r0t<br />
18 hours ago<br />
That&#8217;s complete madness. How is the local community/county feeding them? That&#8217;s a lot of mouth to feed. Best temporary solution is to set them up in an open land and make them cultivate the land and plant food and raise chickens.<br />
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<p>@larropowell3658<br />
8 hours ago<br />
And Elon talks about a population decreasing problem. Across the planet.</p>
<p>@danbelainsky1650<br />
20 hours ago<br />
WTF did i just watch &#8230; LOVE IT!<br />
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<p>@luluh1154<br />
12 hours ago<br />
He is so generous, he will let in that ONE</p>
<p>@MrAlanfalk73<br />
15 hours ago<br />
This is how a civilisation collapses !<br />
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<p>@juanabosch7827<br />
10 hours ago<br />
ELON LUCHA POR IMIGRANTE HACIA UN FUTURO MEJOR&#8230;<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@JG-fi8sq<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Savage said it years ago, &#8220;Borders, Laungage, Culture&#8221;. Im concerned for my grandchildrens future.</p>
<p>@svenderikelgaard4727<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Hi Elon. Great topic. try landscape video next time. you have a big head covering what you want to show <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f609.png" alt="😉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@michelangelobuonarroti916<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Why didn&#8217;t he bring someone who knows how to take video.<br />
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<p>@teslanewstonight<br />
14 hours ago<br />
He didn&#8217;t ask me. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f916.png" alt="🤖" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f9e1.png" alt="🧡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@davdin2<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Elon should know landscape. He also needs an i phome 15.<br />
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<p>@Cybertruck1000<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Can we club together and get him a selfie stick?<br />
2</p>
<p>@jeffharrison6059<br />
20 hours ago<br />
I think Periscope is only portrait.</p>
<p>@zdme4864<br />
20 hours ago<br />
yes turn the phone to landscape elon!</p>
<p>@ULTRAPRAGMATIST-gd2se<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Too bad his hats on backwards <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f920.png" alt="🤠" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@juanabosch7827<br />
10 hours ago<br />
ELONGACIÓN HACÍA UN FUTURO MEJOR <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@chraismew<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Please fly over to Europe as well while you’re at it<br />
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<p>@cherylnagy126<br />
13 hours ago (edited)<br />
rather than antifa black, I prefer Royal Purple, Burgundy Red, Midnight Blue <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> (rock that hat in one of those colors, would be amazing)</p>
<p>@SportsbookAssassin15<br />
7 hours ago<br />
ALL HAIL MEGA MUSK.</p>
<p>@georgelewis8831<br />
18 hours ago<br />
They should limit residency to certain states so no state has too many. They should fingerprint so we know if certain states are sending them to other states and charge those states for the costs<br />
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<p>@lasvegasbound6167<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Help, please, Elon. Tell them that THEIR jobs are in MEXICO. Some place called &#8216;Nuevo Laredo&#8217; or something.<br />
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<p>@rampz826<br />
21 hours ago<br />
I like how someone of his social status speaks on certain subjects however he could get himself canceled so I think he needs to stay out of politics because he could ruin our future retirements<br />
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<p>@yehimstone5492<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Elon is gaining 76 million conservative Americans</p>
<p>@janewoodhouse9688<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Lyrics<br />
I wake from a fever dream<br />
The room is just a little darker<br />
Than it seemed before<br />
I lived a lifetime in between<br />
But everything I&#8217;d seen was just a dream<br />
They say it happens for a reason<br />
But consider the source<br />
Consider the source<br />
Evil prevails<br />
Good men do nothing<br />
Evil prevails<br />
Good men do nothing<br />
The train derails<br />
Good men do nothing<br />
The system fails<br />
Good men do nothing<br />
We live in the trees<br />
We live on our knees<br />
We live in the shadows<br />
You live in denial<br />
We live in the trees<br />
We live on our knees<br />
We live in the shadows<br />
You live in denial<br />
Evil prevails<br />
Good men do nothing<br />
Evil prevails<br />
Good men do nothing<br />
The train derails<br />
Good men do nothing<br />
The system fails</p>
<p>@f1al373<br />
12 hours ago<br />
I’m sure the politician’s will edit this video and depending on where they are red or blue portray what they want to portray.</p>
<p>@takenoshortcuts<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Thanks for sharing. Otherwise I may not have seen it<br />
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<p>@leahc5224<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Why do they need anyone at the border if everyone is just let in anyway? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@michaelm.a.9806<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Without finding the root cause of this it will continue.</p>
<p>@terryvanderhoeven2148<br />
18 hours ago<br />
Dam, I thought we had problems in New Zealand.<br />
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<p>@Ajinomoto619<br />
10 hours ago<br />
The navy gave me opportunity to become a legal american citizen, I did my 20 years in the military but these prople just walk accross the border and they are set with medical/shelter/food.</p>
<p>@wonton120<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Don&#8217;t you think this is a joke, for this simple problem, why we couldn&#8217;t solve it for so long?<br />
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<p>@lillysgrandmaable<br />
18 hours ago<br />
ELON !! WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN ? SO MANY WERE FOUND ALONE.<br />
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<p>@yehimstone5492<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Arrest the traffickers</p>
<p>@cohenkevinloriqueen818<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Elon is the Bomb&#8230;.</p>
<p>@MrAlanfalk73<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Independent journalism doing what mainstream wont (unless the president is named Trump!).<br />
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<p>@GregoryHelberg<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Their job is to protect the country, just act on your own accord.. who will come make you let them in.. just start turning them around, shut down the train.</p>
<p>@pitech4446<br />
20 hours ago<br />
ELon needs to lose some weight man, his guts is coming out. We need him to be healthy for real<br />
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<p>@johnarchbold2262<br />
20 hours ago<br />
make mexico a state,,,, then a much smaller border!!!<br />
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<p>@davemilke3110<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Never heard that before, worth consideration for its worth.<br />
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<p>@lasvegasbound6167<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Just the &#8216;Mecheladora region, at most.<br />
1</p>
<p>@THEKFX700KID<br />
12 hours ago (edited)<br />
Come on Elon…. Your a billionaire and you can’t find a person with a camera to film this with you? Lol or at least hold you phone sideways so we get a full screen picture…. Anyway thanks for trying and doing what you do…<br />
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<p>@ericdelevinquiere9902<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Elon for president!</p>
<p>@nunung-ew3ip<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Will you work as a freelance reporter<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />?</p>
<p>@acs2777<br />
16 hours ago (edited)<br />
Optimus activated . T9 intercept the organic life forms . Ps Elon for president of humanoids and humans !<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@omqbrown9041<br />
13 hours ago<br />
<i></i> 32</p>
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<p>@Cody-hx1uq<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Starlink&#8230; deal! Deal!</p>
<p>@zdme4864<br />
20 hours ago<br />
CONSEQUENCES!<br />
2</p>
<p>@nunung-ew3ip<br />
15 hours ago<br />
People born outside Amerika cannot be officials?????</p>
<p>@ffyy88<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Elon becoming journalist?<br />
1</p>
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<p>@davemilke3110<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Real journalist.<br />
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<p>@davidking417<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Elon please help</p>
<p>@nilukadilrukshi6684<br />
8 hours ago<br />
මම එනවා elo Mus ලගදිම එනවා</p>
<p>@RoschetzkyPhotography<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Elon should just be president &#8211;</p>
<p>@Shin-z<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Elon for president !!<br />
1</p>
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<p>@mwolrich<br />
17 hours ago<br />
If he wasn’t CEO of 6 companies, he could be, but he wasn’t born here, so doesn’t qualify<br />
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<p>@yehimstone5492<br />
13 hours ago<br />
​@mwolrich that didn&#8217;t prevent Kenyan born obummer</p>
<p>@juantroncoso1<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Dont you be suppost to be working on my Tesla stock ?<br />
1</p>
<p>@user-rx9rh1mq4o<br />
19 hours ago<br />
No elon should stay out of politics&#8230;but if this is a ploy to get conservative on your side ..i see your point&#8230;cybertruck is coming out and you need to get some of those ford f150 conservative on your side<br />
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<p>@yehimstone5492<br />
13 hours ago (edited)<br />
I&#8217;ve voted republican since I voted for Reagan in 1980. I voted president Trump twice and will vote president Trump 2024. Yes I do have a cybertruck reservation. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f973.png" alt="🥳" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-rx9rh1mq4o<br />
11 hours ago (edited)<br />
@yehimstone5492 yes its working..I do think elon is playing a 3d chess..Elon knows he needs to get more conservative to just give his product a try and some will like it..I have stock in tesla,,&#8230;I suggest you buy some</p>
<p>@fix-hb1561<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Wow! Completely Wrong,<br />
Gov Broken.<br />
1</p>
<p>@philipmartin3075<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Bobby Kennedy Jr. for president!!!!<br />
3</p>
<p>@majerovi<br />
21 hours ago<br />
america need a working visa<br />
1</p>
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<p>@RandomTask-hf6ek<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Why bus them&#8230;. when you can shoot them to the Moon??<br />
Anyone for Moon street tacos ??<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Keyprinciples9<br />
18 hours ago<br />
Migrant warfare.<br />
1</p>
<p>@mack3354<br />
1 hour ago<br />
scary stuff</p>
<p>@rwhirsch<br />
16 hours ago<br />
oh my my&#8230;the liberal media&#8217;s not going to like this&#8230;i hope elon is prepared for the backlash (humor).<br />
1</p>
<p>@tenpattt777<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Elon kick out all man’s Keep the ladies</p>
<p>@garnettsand7418<br />
6 hours ago<br />
go wide angle</p>
<p>@cleanitup_pls7893<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Oversimplification of the problem by Elon is not going to help. However, best to start somewhere</p>
<p>@lilfairycupcake<br />
15 hours ago<br />
it just seem odd that musk would go out of his way for such a thing?</p>
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<p>@kazs.7403<br />
8 hours ago (edited)<br />
other immigrant has to pay to come over here USA <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> each immigrants peoples should paying while working under provisions and checking background crime history medical records. all immigrants philippines citizens folks <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1f5-1f1ed.png" alt="🇵🇭" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> paid to come here with my parents.. yay right we all paying their stay here without paying wow i’ll be broke in years or maybe less you only care Mexican peoples, you got free food stamps good jobs.<br />
hon careful <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f618.png" alt="😘" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@hedwegg<br />
20 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />To the Point: <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />(a) You&#8217;re paid to follow the law! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />(b) You took an Oath!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />(c) You&#8217;re not following the Law! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />Lawlessness &#8220;rules&#8221;!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> We follow the Rules.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />It&#8217;s Orders! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />Otherwise, No paycheck! No job!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />&#8221;Diminished Capacity&#8221;<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />&#8221;Emotionally &amp; Mentally&#8221;!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jeffhidalgo8457<br />
9 hours ago<br />
Why is Elon there? He is a bit insulated from the river crossing immigrants experience.</p>
<p>@willinguyen1<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Cheap to just rip off another video onto your channel. Big turn off.<br />
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<p>@hedwegg<br />
20 hours ago (edited)<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />[Diminished Capacity]<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />from the [Top]<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />to the [Bottom].<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Foot Soldiers!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f9.png" alt="🏹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f42c.png" alt="🐬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />What remains?<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f42c.png" alt="🐬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />[Starlink &amp; Drones]!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f42c.png" alt="🐬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />All for [American Values &amp; Technology]!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f426.png" alt="🐦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f42c.png" alt="🐬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />To Dilute<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f42c.png" alt="🐬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />To Diminish<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f42c.png" alt="🐬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />are not <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f42c.png" alt="🐬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />[Values]!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f426.png" alt="🐦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />&#8221;In God we Trust&#8221;!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@mb90821<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Vivek or Trump. I would prefer Vivek but Trump can solve the problem.<br />
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<p>@roxter299roxter7<br />
21 hours ago<br />
You must be kidding!<br />
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<p>@rogerstarkey5390<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Vivek &#8220;climate hoax&#8221; Ramaswamy?<br />
Or<br />
Donny &#8220;EVs bad&#8221; Trump?<br />
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<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@sonnynim1212<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Good effort Elon, but this is not your fight. Now get the hell out of there and get back to work at Telsa. I&#8217;m still waiting for my Cybertruck.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@mwolrich<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Then whose fight is it? Elon will bring a large amount of attention to the issue, that the politicians, in an election year will find very difficult to ignore<br />
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<p>@RichardPeterShon<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Id suggest that you dampen this vid. There are things we need to help Elon by temp stopping some news that he posts that are too political<br />
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<p>5 replies</p>
<p>@tedmoss<br />
21 hours ago<br />
So you are afraid of being a person? You are going to tell me or anybody what they can think or say?<br />
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<p>@willinguyen1<br />
20 hours ago<br />
How is that helping him? It&#8217;s his video</p>
<p>@MrGchernetz<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Elon should stick to what he does best build the industries to make America lead. If he wants to stick his nose in the Immigration issue then run for office otherwise BUD OUT. If he wants to fix the problem he could pay for increased sites where these poor human Beings can be processed to be able to work in the USA especially at Elon&#8217;s factories.<br />
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<p>@truefreedom9308<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Love you Elon.<br />
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; [In this very informative interview, Nick Spero talks with Rainer from Aryan Skynet, and discusses the jewish meddling in Latin America, from the training of death squads, drug running and general subversion. Later they discuss Trump’s unsavory close associations &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2016/05/15/circus-maximus-interviews-aryan-skynets-rainer-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">[In this very informative interview, Nick Spero talks with Rainer from Aryan Skynet, and discusses the jewish meddling in Latin America, from the training of death squads, drug running and general subversion. Later they discuss Trump’s unsavory close associations with various shady jews in his business affairs and in politics, coming to the unpopular conclusion that Trump is working for the jews, a view that I think is unfortunately correct<span class="Apple-style-span"> — KATANA.]</span></span></p>
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<h1 class="yt watch-title-container" style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Aryan Skynet’s Rainer</span></h1>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;">http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/circus-maximus-rainer-chlodwig-von-kook-aryan-skynet-5-6-16/</span></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"> https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/05/07/circus-maximus-interviews-aryan-skynets-rainer-chlodwig-von-kook-5616/</span></h3>
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<p>Renegade Broadcasting’s Nick Spero spoke with guest Rainer Chlodwig von Kook of Aryan Skynet on Friday night’s episode of Circus Maximus. Discussion covers Hollywood propaganda, brainwashing, talk radio, corporate media conglomerates, William Cooper, conspiracy culture, Salvador Allende, the Alt Right, Donald Trump, Zionism, child prostitution, and more.</p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Welcome everybody! I’m your host, Nick Spero. And this is Circus Maximus on the <a href="http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/"><strong>Renegade Broadcasting Network</strong></a>.</p>
<p>Tonight is May 5th or May 6th, 2016. And welcome to the Friday night show.</p>
<p>And I have been doing a series for the past few weeks related to the New Right. A lot of the secret right members related to the Council for National Policy the CIA’s involvement. Even people that are, you know, both on in the CFR as well as the CMP, the Knights of Malta, a lot of different think tanks related to the New Right, jewish involvement, Christian Identity, Evangelicals, Mormons, Scientology, a lot of different groups, bunch of different factions, all part of the conspiracy for world domination.</p>
<p>The Latin America region has been the template for privatizing industries around the world. That’s where the CIA and all these different groups have dipped and dabbed and put their own rulers into power when other leaders have been democratically elected. All under the guise of:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>These people are communists! We have to end communism!</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>And that has been the bogeyman for the past sixty years, plus.</p>
<p>So, I was covering <strong>Roy Cohen</strong> last week, relating to him being Roger Stone’s and Donald Trump’s mentor. Donald Trump learning a lot of his tricks and a lot of the different methods to the madness and where he got where he’s at today.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Circa 1980s, Roy Cohen (left), journalist Ed Kosner and Donald Trump.</span></p>
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<p>So, we’re going to take a little break from Roy Cohen tonight. And I do have a guest. The guest that I’m having on, I do follow him on twitter and his articles have been related to what I’m covering on my shows, related to the Latin America death squads and the CIA and Mossad involvement with what I just mentioned, with the privatizing of industries and whatnot.</p>
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<p>So my guest is <strong>Rainer</strong>. And he has a website. It is, “<i>I care views</i>” on wordpress dot com. And his twitter handle is actually, “<i>I care views</i>”. And he also is a major contributor for <strong>Aryan Skynet</strong>. That is where the articles that I usually have partaken, because they’re more related to what I research. And the other website “<i>I care views</i>”, Rainer could you explain what that pertains to? Mostly, isn’t it more about movie reviews and whatnot, could you explain that?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, “<i>i-c-a-reviews</i>”.  [ <a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://icareviews.wordpress.com/">icareviews.wordpress.com</a>]</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> “<i>i-c-a-reviews</i>”. Sorry about that, “<i>i-c-a-reviews</i>”.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>i-c-a-reviews</i>” for <strong>Ideological Content Analysis</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Okay.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s basically a deconstruction of the content that you get in the Hollywood garbage. It’s about analysis of this, some of the subliminal content or the Cultural Marxism, those kinds that you get in major Hollywood films. And sometimes I look at more obscure independent films and pop culture generally. And the Skynet is more, that’s more your geopolitics and your, “<i>Deep State</i>” stuff.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[05:17]</strong></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right, absolutely and I noticed that you do have Shaun’s “<i>TCTA Unleashed</i>” as one of your blogs that you follow, so that’s pretty cool that you guys have already been connected in that way and you did state that that was one of your favorite shows on renegade. So that’s cool. Shaun is on the line and he’s actually administering this call for us, so maybe he’ll jump in later and say hello.</p>
<p>As far as some of your articles, actually you had one that was published on the Renegade Tribune at one point. Which one was that again? That was the Freud vs, &#8230;.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: <span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8220;</span></b><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://www.renegadetribune.com/freud-and-jung-as-representative-jew-and-gentile/"><strong><em>Freud and Jung as Representative Jew and Gentile</em></strong></a>&#8220;.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Sigmund Fraud and Carl Jung.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Perfect! Yeah, that was a good article, by the way.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Thanks!</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> You’re welcome. And how did you come to this information, what got are motivated to become active. And share your insights with the rest of the world?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, not that many years ago I was blue pilled and clueless as about anybody. Certainly all through the Bush years, like a lot of people. Circa 2009, when a lot of us were trying to figure out what was wrong, something was wrong and a lot of us didn’t really have the information at their disposal. Started looking around. I went through a libertarian phase, being a good goy. Very self-absorbed, preoccupied with what was going on in my life and the pop culture, all that stuff. I was a movie guy, movie buff. And I really have <strong>Don Logan</strong>, to thank my fellow Skynet mate, who’s on twitter also downloading Netflex.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He’s really the guy who got me away from some of the more middle of the road or, you know, what you might call and “<i>basic bitch libertarian ideology</i>”, you know, the Tom Wolfe and all that kind of stuff and he turned me on to <strong>American Free Press</strong> and <strong>Michael Collins Piper</strong>. I started reading Victor Thorn, their articles. That was really the turning point. I radicalized pretty rapidly after being exposed to the right information.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> That all it takes.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Yeah. And so and, you know, when you write about film and you have this this other information at your disposal. It’s really inevitable that you begin to view it in an altogether different way. And that ideological content analysis began almost as a joke. But, I was talking about the political content in movies in a kind of a kidding way but, you know, the more I got into it, it really is pretty devious and poisonous stuff that gets dumped into people’s heads. And, you know, just on mass scale.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Oh, yeah!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">People tend to mis-define mind control by dwelling on MK-Ultra and things like that, you know, electromagnetic this and that. But really, mind control is completely open. <strong>Michael Hofmann</strong>, the guy who publishes revisionist history did a, he delivered a good lecture called “<a href="http://www.revisionisthistory.org/matrix.html"><i>The Columbine Matrix</i></a>”. And he documented about how the CIA does not need to take you into a little room and brainwash you, or give you a, you know, a special dose of this or that to turn you into one of their agents. I mean, it’s out in the open. You take the drugs voluntarily, you watch the brainwashing serials. They don’t need to clip your eyelids open, like Alex in<b><i> A Clockwork Orange</i></b>. Your sitting there watching of your own volition.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yes!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s what that blog is all about. That’s what that project is about.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah. And your testimonials are kind of the opposite of what you would normally expect. Your <a href="https://icareviews.wordpress.com/testimonials/">testimonial page</a>. [laughter] Normal people would put a lot of the positive feedback that you would get about your blog and whatnot! But you put the ridiculous comments that people were talking about, like, “<i>Good god, you’re insane!</i>” and:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>I have zero interest in reading the lunatic notions of a White supremacist apologist and things of that nature!</i>” [laughing]</p></blockquote>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, well I’m a little bit disappointed that they don’t get more negativity! I enjoy it! And that tells me I’m doing something right, if people of that, if it gets a rise out of those types of people. I mean I tire out those tired insults and lesser things. I’d be happier to get more hate mail.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah. [laughing] I haven’t read any of your movie reviews yet, but, would you say that a lot of them are satirical to where that’s what’s pissing people off? Or are you pretty much getting into the nitty gritty and that’s what’s pissing people off?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> A little of both, a little both.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I see, I see.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I give a little synopsis of what the movie’s about, maybe, you know, whether I give it thumbs up or down on the entertainment front. But, then I go, &#8230; The reviews are formatted as a list. I basically bullet point the different ideological currents that are present in the film.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Any films that you’ve analyzed recently that were worthwhile? Anything Hollywood has put out there that was actually worthwhile? [laughing]</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, my take on it is going to be different from somebody else’s.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Sure.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s almost impossible for me anymore to watch a movie and just sit back and enjoy it. Because, now I’ve got it, i’ve trained myself to the point where, I’m really watching movies in a much more clinical way. So I’m not, I’m not as preoccupied with the lighting or the acting, so much as what’s being perpetrated against us.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I’m the same way. I’m the same way. I even do that with older films now to. I go back and check them out.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">In a way, you do lose something there. You kind of miss, in the sense of just being able to enjoy a movie as a piece of entertainment and relax. But it’s precisely when you let down your defenses and you give yourself up to a movie, that you become susceptible. I mean you allow it to access your mind on a subconscious level. I can’t really allow myself to do that anymore.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">[As an aside Rainer’s last point reminds me of the scene in <b><i>Dr Strangelove</i></b>:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Ripper:</b> I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women&#8230; Women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake, but I do deny them my essence.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Mandrake</b>: Heh heh&#8230; Yes. — KATANA]</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> And Hollywood is connected with the CIA and Pentagon and DOD and what not with a lot of what’s been put out anyway. It’s kind of like a high priest system that’s conjuring the spell that they’re ready to cast out to it’s audience.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Definitely! Definitely! And they, I mean the CIA, doesn’t make a secret of the fact that they have an entertainment industry liaison, you know, on this or that film. I mean, they don’t tell you everything, but that’s, I mean, that’s that’s an open secret, if they even maintain any pretense of, you know, plausible deniability there. Everybody knows that they have CIA agents contributing to the end product of a movie like <b><i>Zero Dark Thirty</i></b>, for instance.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah. What is your thoughts on that whole thing with the navy, Seal Team Six? With, I understand, all of the members are dead now? After the alleged capture or death of Osama bin Laden. Have you looked into that?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. They all went down. I believe it was nineteen guys in one chopper.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] SEAL Team Six: On August 6, 2011 Afghan insurgents shot down a U.S. Chinook helicopter. &#8220;<em>Thirty Americans were aboard, including 22 Navy SEALs. Most of the SEALs were from <b>SEAL Team 6</b>, the unit that had killed bin Laden three months earlier. All aboard the Chinook were killed. However, <b>none were from the squadron that participated in the Abbottabad raid</b>.</em>&#8220;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bin-laden-raid-year/story?id=16219260#7</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Michael Savage, of all people, made a big deal of that. And he of course, had his own spin on it. He kind of tried to hijack the conspiracy theory before it became inconvenient. And he tried to turn it into this Zionist narrative. He said that he tried to make it out like the Muslims had an inside man with the, I don’t know, the Department of Defense or Obama administration or something, and had gotten revenge for the killing of bin Laden. But, no I think these would have been and privy to the reality that something other than what was advertised happened in that bin Laden compound.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Michael Savage</strong> being interviewed on RT: “<i>Michael Savage: SEAL Team Six was set up, murdered in Afghanistan.</i>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Note:</b> When asked whether it was clear that any of the Team Six members killed where the same ones who took park in the [alleged] killing of Bin Laden, he answers, “<i>No, but they were part of the same unit</i>”.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Source: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnr5T7knvU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnr5T7knvU</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Been privy to the fact that nothing happened or, you know, anyway, were in a position to debunk the, the, “<i>Obama the hero</i>” story. And I think they’re probably swept under the rug.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> With these Right wing talk show hosts that are like your Alex Jones and Michael Savages, it seems like they’re privy to information a lot of times before it happens. Where they have the opportunity to predict, you know, the predictive programming to unleash on it’s, their audience. Plus, right away they’re all over an incident and they’re are able to gate-keep and steer the information into the direction that they want their audience to believe.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I haven’t noticed so much the prediction. Now when you mention it what came to my mind was William Cooper. William Cooper famously predicted 9/11, basically.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[15:04]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Correct. That’s what red-pilled me, by the way, for the most part.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, William Cooper is an interesting guy because he spent most of his career peddling the most preposterous conspiracy theories. But then, I mean he, 9/11 is what made him a legend in my view. Because he called, he called bullshit on the whole bin Laden myth before it was, you know, even mainstream.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> One month before Alex Jones did.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. But yeah, Cooper, he’s a difficult figured to sum up. Because he does seem to have been largely concerned with disseminating disinformation. He was into all of that extra terrestrial stuff.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> And what he did, he did say later on that he kind of rebukes doing that. That he felt that he was being fed lies. That he no longer, pretty much, believes what he had been disseminating in his past broadcasts and books and whatnot.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, it’s really 9/11. 9/11 was that guy’s finest hour. I listen to his 9/11 broadcast in it’s entirety. It’s pretty amazing, you know. And he basically nailed it from day, before day one.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Oh yeah.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, that was pretty remarkable!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now these other types of guys, I consider most of them pretty low level cogs in the machine. I don’t think that Sean Hannity or Rush or any of these guys have a great deal of inside information as far as the black ops. And I think they just they seem pretty clueless to me. I’m sure they act. I’m sure a lot of it’s an act. But, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I would say it’s an act, because they’re paid millions of dollars to put out disinformation or whatever. And they belong to these think tanks that a lot of these other people who are the movers and shakers, belong to. So there’s probably a hierarchy of what’s being, you know, shared with these lower level Talk Radio hosts. But at the same time they are still rubbing elbows with these same people that are doing a lot of what they’re talking about on air.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Now a guy like Bill Kristol, who was, if I’m remembering rightly, was actually a PNAC signatory, Project for a New American Century. And that guy probably had some inside information that he was a member of that tribe and everything.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Jews behind the Iraq War, with most of them being members of<strong> PNAC</strong> (Project for a New American Century).</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> And then Irving Kristol, his father.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean some of these real doofuses, you know, Glenn Beck and Hannity. It’s hard for me to believe that they would be privy to much, in the way of inside information. I think they just, they just, &#8230; Beck is, &#8230; He does put on a show, I mean he does do a schtick. I think he is pretty genuinely dopey in a lot of ways.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Glenn-Beck-and-Sean-Hannity.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23314 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Glenn-Beck-and-Sean-Hannity.gif" alt="" width="761" height="484" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, I think so to. But as far as collaborating on events that take place, do you think that they’re just handed a script and they are just told to repeat it, or do you think they’re all collaborating on a inside level whenever there’s one of these mass shootings or terrorist, so-called terrorist events that occur? Like 9/11.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t know how coordinated they are at the level of a script or talking points, but there is definitely, &#8230; I wrote a post called, “<i>Airwolf Command</i>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Airwolf-Command.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23311 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Airwolf-Command.gif" alt="" width="690" height="918" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b><i>Airwolf Command</i></b>.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2015/03/23/airwolf-command/</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it was about the ownership of these companies. The ownership of Cumulus, which distributes a lot of these conservative shows. If you go to nasdaq dot com, and if you look up pretty much any major media corporation. They’re owned at the highest level by these investment firms. Three of the big ones are, State Street, Vanguard Group and Blackrock.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And these investment firms own millions of shares in, basically everything. Your fast food chains, your TV networks. People think, you know, they’re turning on Fox News. Again the conservative news. People then turn on NSBC they’re getting the liberal perspective. But the ownership is, at the highest level, in common. These companies are held in common. And they’re held in common with military industrial interests.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Absolutely.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[20:08]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Companies like general dynamics and Rathyon and Lockheed Martin. And what you also have are interlocks at the level of boards of directors, between banks, defense contractors, media corporations, oil companies. And so, yeah, I mean at some level there is some orchestration going on. At the level of the actual host who slobbers the jibberish on the microphone, I don’t know, you know, how much they know, how aware they are. I’m sure they all know which topics to avoid. In order not to get themselves in hot water, they all know which issues to sidestep and which boogie men to blame, so yes, to some extent it’s an act. I mean, whether they really know what happened with the bin Laden raid hoax, I don’t know.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, I even did a timeline just on the acquisitions, mergers and acquisitions just from the Black Mann Stone and Kelly, the BMSK lobbying group, and then how they merged with a different group of then, boom, boom. And then over the years there was, you know, gobbled up by a advertising firm that owns different news networks and whatnot. So, yeah. I completely agree with what you’re saying and how this whole conglomeration is tied in with the military industrial complex, with news networks and how they disseminate information.</p>
<p>Did you ever look into how Roy Cohn and Rupert Murdoch came together with [Ronald] Reagan and pretty much helped Murdoch, &#8230; Well, actually Murdoch helped Reagan with his Latin America incidences going on during his presidency to disseminate information in favor of Reagan throughout the whole time?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1640-Ronald-Reagan-with-Rupert-Murdoch-and-Roy-Cohn.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23294 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1640-Ronald-Reagan-with-Rupert-Murdoch-and-Roy-Cohn.gif" alt="" width="1049" height="693" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Ronald Reagan with Rupert Murdoch and Roy Cohn (standing), Jan 18, 1983.</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I believe, I remember reading something about when Murdoch was first introduced to Reagan and his entree to Zionist power circles. And was that Cohen that made the introduction?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah. Tom Bolan and Roy Cohn where they were in the same law firm together. Tom Bolan being a knight of malta. And Cohn being the guy, you know, of many connections, set that meeting up with Murdoch and Reagan, to make that happen. So, it’s pretty interesting. I’m going to get into that when I start getting into more of the Roy Cohn information.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1642-Tom-Bolan-Rupert-Murdoch-and-Roy-Cohn.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23295 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1642-Tom-Bolan-Rupert-Murdoch-and-Roy-Cohn.gif" alt="" width="503" height="567" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] From left: Tom Bolan, Rupert Murdoch and Roy Cohn at a party during Ronald Reagan’s inauguration, Washington, D.C. (January 21, 1985)</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Have you investigated Murdoch’s family tree?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Not in depth, no. I’m not sure. A lot of people saying he’s Catholic, but I think he’s one of those conversos where he’s actually jewish, myself.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1643-David-Irving-on-Murdoch’s-possible-jewish-background.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23296 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1643-David-Irving-on-Murdoch’s-possible-jewish-background.gif" alt="" width="608" height="987" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">[Image] David Irving’s thoughts on Murdoch’s possible jewish background.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><b>Source:</b> <a href="http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertainment-news-monopoly-murdoch-jew-part1.html">http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertainment-news-monopoly-murdoch-jew-part1.html</a></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I know there’s one of the names in his family tree which is “<i>Green</i>”. Which could be a red flag. I’ve never found really conclusive commentary on it.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> But he’s usually awarded different Zionist type of awards, so.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. He’s just, it’s hard to believe that he’s not, you know?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Exactly! Exactly! And then Shaun might know a little bit more about that guy since he is from Australia, Murdoch.</p>
<p>So I wanted to get into your articles related to, &#8230; Let’s cover the Pinochet angle, because a lot of the New Right, the Alt Right of today are praising this guy, as far as, doing what he did in Chile with the death squads.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1646-President-Allende-and-General-Pinochet.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23297 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1646-President-Allende-and-General-Pinochet.gif" alt="" width="627" height="449" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] File photo showing then-Chilean President Allende and General Pinochet at the presidential palace La Moneda in Santiago. Then-Chilean President Salvador Allende (R) and General Augusto Pinochet are seen at the presidential palace La Moneda in Santiago in this undated file photo. September 11, marks the anniversary of the coup d&#8217;etat in Chile that ushered in a 17-year dictatorship under Pinochet. More than 3,000 people died or disappeared because of political violence during Pinochet&#8217;s 1973-1990 military rule. </span></p>
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<p>And they brag about the helicopter incidences of, you know, destroying a lot of people’s lives. Assassinations, imprisonment, torture, rape, all the above with Pinochet’s regime. And they praise this guy, because he was eliminating communism in Chile. So, you did write an article related to that. As far as Allende, as well. Democratically elected president for Chile, who was assassinated. So if you want to get a little bit more into that, I would like to hear your analysis of that.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[24:50]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Sure. Allende was a rising figure in Chilean politics during the sixties. And the US, even under Kennedy, was attempting to undermine his rise to prominence. And they were already trying to torpedo his election chances, as far back as 63, I think. One of the sources for this period is the man who was the US ambassador to Chile. His name is Edward Korry. He was also the ambassador to Ethiopia. He served under Kennedy, Johnson and also Nixon.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1648-John-F.-Kennedy-meets-Edward-M.-Korry.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23298 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1648-John-F.-Kennedy-meets-Edward-M.-Korry.gif" alt="" width="998" height="749" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] President John F. Kennedy meets with newly-appointed United States Ambassador to Ethiopia, Edward M. Korry (right). Oval Office, White House, Washington D.C., 13 March 1963. Korry was the United States Ambassador to Chile from 1967 to 1971.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Korry has been alleged to have been complicit, to have been a participant in the coup, the seventy three coup. So some of his account you might take with a grain of salt, because he’s obviously tried to distance himself from that allegation. But he’s been pretty open about the fact that, in his words, the CIA was basically serving as a collection agency for various US. Corporate interests. ITT Corporation, the Telephone Telegraph company, Pepsi Co, and Richard Nixon had that one time been the attorney for Pepsi Co. Anaconda Copper was another one.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Allende, it’s true, identified as a communist. But he was politically a much more eclectic sort of guy. He had a lot of influences and I argue in my article he was really more of a nationalist, or a Socialist Nationalist, or if you must, National Socialist. Because what he was interested in doing was in taking back Chile’s resources and putting these to use for the Chilean people.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because what had been going on in a was basically a run on it’s mineral wealth and it’s resources, similar to what happened in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. The place was being taken over by these multi-nationals.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> The Chicago Boys were over in Russia too? Or, I know thy were definitely in Chile.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Chicago Boys were, as I understand, definitely an influence in shaping Russia’s economy after the fall of the Soviet union.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> They did the same for China as well.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. These were disciples of Milton Friedman at the university of Chicago.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Oh, yes.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, what happened when Allende, you know, spoiling the CIA’s intentions. You know, the CIA had expended all this money trying to prevent Allende from being elected in the seventies.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1649-Salvador-Guillermo-Allende-Gossens.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23299 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1649-Salvador-Guillermo-Allende-Gossens.gif" alt="" width="555" height="725" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens (26 June 1908 – 11 September 1973), more commonly known as Salvador Allende, was a Chilean physician and politician, known as the first Marxist to become president of a Latin American country through open elections in Nov, 1970.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">On 11 September 1973, the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d&#8217;état sponsored by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).As troops surrounded La Moneda Palace, he gave his last speech vowing not to resign. Later that day, Allende shot himself dead with an assault rifle, according to an investigation conducted by a Chilean court with the assistance of international experts in 2011.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source: </b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He did win over the people, he did get elected and so it was, again, it was ITT, International Telephone Telegraph and Anaconda Copper, were two of the big ones that wanted this guy taken out because they were losing their concessions, all their privileges that they’d been granted under previous governments.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1650-Henry-Kissinger-“Shut-it-down”.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23300 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1650-Henry-Kissinger-“Shut-it-down”.gif" alt="" width="598" height="394" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Henry Kissinger: “<i>Shut it down!</i>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Henry Kissinger, under Nixon, was basically at the beck and call of these people. And they basically said, “<i>Hey, this Allende character is giving us trouble down here</i>” and they’re going to nationalize the copper for instance, the copper mines. That was one of the first things the Allende wanted to do.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1651-Pinochet-and-Kissinger-in-a-death-grip.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23301 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1651-Pinochet-and-Kissinger-in-a-death-grip.gif" alt="" width="717" height="475" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Pinochet and Kissinger in a death grip.</span></p>
<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, the US just basically did to Chile what they’ve done in more recent years to Ukraine. They didn’t like the government so they Overthrew it, with astroturf and by any means necessary essentially. Mr Korry was even quoted at the time, as saying that the intention of the US was to make the Chilean economy, “<i>Scream</i>”. That was the word that he used. And so they blockaded the country, cut necessary materials for industry, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[29:20]</b></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>BREAK</b></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>RENEGADE AD</strong>: I think we’re seeing a resurgence of anti-gentilism. Because at this time israel has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we’re going to be part of the throes of that transformation. Israel is not going to be a monolithic society it once was and gentiles are going to be in the center of that. Israel is now going into multicultural mode. But without this change and without this transformation Israel will not survive.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[31:41]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Welcome back everybody I’m your host Nick Spero and this is Circus Maximus. I am on with Rainer from icareviews and Aryan Skynet. We were discovering that Chilean coup de’tat, with Pinochet being the CIA plant. So, where were we? Where did we leave off with the, “<i>screaming economy</i>” I believe, right Rainer?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Sure. Yeah, that was the situation. So, Allende was attempting to recalibrate the country’s economy so it was serving the interests of the people. He was famously concerned with just making sure people had food and making sure children had milk and so forth. He was not some, foaming at the mouth Bolshevik, hanging priests and bulldozing churches. And he was not, that’s not what was happening in the country. He was trying to reorient the economy so it was serving the people. And these multinationals were not having it, so that’s where the ‘73 coup comes in.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Pinochet was the general, that the CIA backed in overthrowing Allende. And Michel Chossudovsky, who was teaching economics in Chile at the time, says it was basically a neoliberal coup.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Michel Chossudovsky</b> (born 1946) is a Canadian economist and author. He is a professor of economics at the University of Ottawa and the president and director of the Centre for Research on Globalization.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">He was a visiting professor at the Pontifical Catholic University of Chile during the 1970–1973 government of Salvador Allende. It was the effects of General Augusto Pinochet&#8217;s post-coup policies which sparked his interest in what he termed &#8220;economic repression&#8221;. Among other measures, Pinochet&#8217;s government quadrupled the price of bread, and Chossudovsky set out to examine the social effects, concluding that the government was engaging in more than just conventional political repression. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Chossudovsky is the son of a Russian Jewish émigré, the career United Nations diplomat and academic Evgeny Chossudovsky, and an Irish Protestant, Rachel Sullivan</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It wasn’t a Fascist coup and not necessarily a right wing coup. It was a neo-liberal coup. It was it was like, Korry says, the CIA was acting as the collection agency for these multinationals. It was strictly a grab. It was a grab for the resources of the country.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Oh yes. Absolutely! But this is a TRS’ just take on this. They said something along, &#8230; Well the article is titled, “<i>Dear Conservatives, you will not win the Latino vote</i>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1653-TRS-You-Will-Not-Win-the-Latino-Vote.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23303 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1653-TRS-You-Will-Not-Win-the-Latino-Vote.gif" alt="" width="750" height="530" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://therightstuff.biz/2015/07/29/dear-cuckservatives-you-wont-win-the-latino-vote/">http://therightstuff.biz/2015/07/29/dear-cuckservatives-you-wont-win-the-latino-vote/</a></span></p>
<p>And for Chile, they describe Chile as famous for Augusto Pinochet and his coup against the communist government of Salvodor Allende.</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>The lesson you need to take from Chile is that Chileans elected communism of their own violation [volition] and what they had to literally be coerced into free market capitalism.</i></p>
<p><i>Thanks to Pinochet’s deep institutional reforms the country’s free market system was able to survive despite Chileans repeatedly voting for socialists. Those socialists trying to change the constitution to suit them. Having communist students protesting for free stuff. And electing said communist students to parliament. Chile will obviously not remain the free market capitalist country it has been for decades. Chileans don’t want it to.</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, it’s unfortunate, but even in our neighborhood on the internet. In this movement, if you want to characterize it is a movement, you still get these people talking, “<i>free market</i>” this and that. And, I went through that phase, I mean, I had to go through my libertarian phase to get where I am.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You even hear Jared Taylor, I’ve heard him pay lip service to the free market, and you hear this from some of the the neo reactionaries, they love capitalism and it’s just, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[35:15]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Moldbug!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s just Republican residue. I grew up in a blue collar Republican home and so I grew up thinking Ronald Reagan was, I mean that was as good as you could get, you know, I mean. And these this free market stuff and this capitalism mentality, it’s just a kind of this pseudo ethnicity, I mean, it’s the closest thing to an identity that they allow Europeans to have now. You have to be for Capitalism or you’re a communist. It’s just so bankrupt.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s really not just that it’s empty it’s that it’s actually destructive of us. We, there’s really going to have to be some kind of socialist component to any healthy society that’s interested in preserving it’s identity.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Well even America in itself, by having a police force and fire department and public education, that is all socialist anyway, regardless.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I think, you know, during my transitional period when I was weaning myself off, of some of that, I was a big fan of Brad Trun who has the Libertarian Realist YouTube channel. I still like Brad and I admire his work, he’s a really sharp guy. But I just had to abandon that whole mentality. The two things are really not compatible, identitarianism and the free market stuff. It doesn’t work.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1656-Brad-Trun-being-interviewed-on-Red-Ice-Radio.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23304 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1656-Brad-Trun-being-interviewed-on-Red-Ice-Radio.gif" alt="" width="875" height="765" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Brad Trun being interviewed on Red Ice Radio.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXgS2_UJegk</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> So, I understand there was a huge propaganda campaign going on, even when Allende was elected, to destroy the economy. To make him look bad, to get people all restless.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Definitely! The country was wracked with strikes. And I will read you exactly what. Mr Korry said. Now Korry today, Edward Korry, the man who was then ambassador to Chile, attempts to distance himself from all of these, you know, deep political plays against Chile. But he was mixed up in it and he said that. OK, he said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Not a nut or bolt shall reach Chile once Allende comes to power. We shall do all within our power to condemn Chile. And all Chileans to utmost deprivation and poverty.</i>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s straight out of the mouth of the US ambassador to the country. I mean, it’s what they’ve done, it’s what they’re doing now to Iran, it’s what they’ve been doing to Cuba, for so many decades now.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yes, and even with Iran when they had the BP situation where, forget his name, he wanted to nationalize the oil because BP was only giving them, like twenty three cents on the dollar at the time, and that wasn’t fair to Iran or the people of Iran. And with Libya, Gaddafi was pretty much a National Socialist, in my opinion.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Muammar al-Gaddafi</strong> (June 1942 – 20 October 2011) in earlier and better days. In 2011, he warned Europe that if he went down, they would be flooded with millions of negroes. “There are millions of blacks who could come out of the Mediterranean to cross to France and Italy, and Libya plays a role in the security of the Mediterranean.” Jews were behind the invasion of Libya and his death, and wanted this to happen.</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh, definitely.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> With all the different ways that he was taking care of his people. With the education and money towards a home when they got married, and additional funds for having children, and giving them benefits from the oil production. Where they got a check for just the oil production in Libya. And you hear these GOP members, they still demonize him as being evil, or even Hillary, you know, supporters or Obama. They support what happened in Libya as well, just going off of the narrative that he was an evil dictator and mistreating his people when it was actually the quite the opposite.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1659-Hillary-Hag-Clinton-on-Gaddafis-death.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23306 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1659-Hillary-Hag-Clinton-on-Gaddafis-death.gif" alt="" width="704" height="758" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Hillary Hag Clinton</strong> on Gaddafi&#8217;s death: “<i>We came, we saw, he died!</i>”</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. And with a lot of these Third World governments during the middle to late twentieth century, all of these regimes did identify ostensibly with Marxism and with communism. But it was almost a protest vote. It was almost a way of saying, “<i>We’re not with you</i>” you know, the US was the aggressor, the US was the imperial neo-colonial power. And it identified as strongly capitalist.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So these nationalist, or National Socialist regimes were identifying as communist, wasn’t necessarily an indication that they were doctrinaire zealots, you know, Marxist Leninism, or whatever. But it was, there was a strong current of nationalism that ran through so many of these powers.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> There were mostly just anti-globalists for the mosts part.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> They weren’t the Soviet Union type of communism that, like you said, they weren’t burning churches or anything like that, you know, and just throwing their own people into gulag’s and starving them to death or anything like that. So what else would you like to touch upon about the coup over in Chile? I know that after the Chicago Boys came in, they pretty much screwed up the economy.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Milton Friedman</b> (middle, front), the guru of the monetarist school of economists based at the University of Chicago, taught and groomed quite a few of Pinochet’s top Chilean economic advisors known as the “<b><i>The Chicago Boys</i></b>”.</span></p>
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<p>They didn’t do what TRS claims they did as far as helping out their people. And I also understand that the IMF. Ended up coming around to rescue them!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, if you listen to Milton Friedman or any of the advocates of Chicago style economics, it was a great success! They take a basket case that it’s been ruined by socialism and they gave it a shot in the arm. That’s always what you’re going to get from those people. I mean, the same thing happened in Russia. And it was basically, they they just exploited and got in the country. And that’s what happened. The standard of living of the average Chilean, plummeted almost immediately. I mean, people were expending more of their income just on the basic necessities of life immediately after the coup.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right. Plus a lot of what, I think the numbers range from forty thousand to over a hundred thousand of people who were offed or disappeared, put into prison camps and tortured. So there’s a fluctuation in numbers there. A lot of people stick with the three to four thousand range for people who were actually murdered and, not to mention all the other people that were tortured.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. There’s a parallel situation in Argentina. What’s called the southern cone of South America, was one big experiment really. The CIA was involved in Argentina. I wrote a post about Pope Francis’ activity in Argentina during those years. He was mixed up with the CIA, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Sure.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And their coup in that country.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I’m sure. Can you talk a little bit about that? Because that’s pretty interesting. Real quick though. I understand that Allende was half jewish, though, and that he was also calling out the Jews at the same time, saying that Hebrews are well known committers of certain types of crimes, including fraud, deceit, defamation, but most notably, usury. So that’s kind of a weird conflict, was he a self hating jew or what? [laughing]</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’m sure that’s what Mr Foxman of the ADL would suggest! But it’s interesting. I don’t know. Now if you read mainstream articles about that, they will, &#8230; If you read articles by liberally inclined people who are seen to defend Allende, they they will suggest that he drifted away from those views, those sorts of HBD oriented beliefs that he held were an infatuation of his youth. And that, well he, once he became a good Marxist he abandoned all of that. But we don’t really know, I don’t think. There’s one man and, I believe his name is Petras [sp] , who wrote a book alleging that Allende was a crypto Nazi or something. It was never published in English.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, he certainly is not a classical Marxist, and certainly not all of his life. And he’s certainly not the progressive choir boy that a lot of his champions today would like to believe that he is. There’s a lot more complexity to him and that’s why he’s an interesting figure.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Now, with Allende, a lot of Jews fled, when he was elected, to Israel because they were fearful of losing their property and assets to the socialist regime. And then in this article that I found related to your article, it was a different author, says furthermore:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>When Pinochet took over three years later many of those who had fled returned to Chile! However other Jews fled the country too</i>”.</p></blockquote>
<p>So it seems as if Pinochet was actually good for the Jews in a lot of ways?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh, definitely. He was he was their man on the scene. And the fact that they brought in these these Chicago Boys, I mean, that tells you all you need to know.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Exactly.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, the situation in Argentina I think is a little blurrier. Now, jewish writers act like Argentina, under the dictatorship there, was some kind of neo-Nazi hell hole again and that they were imprisoning them and all of that. The country actually enjoyed pretty friendly relations with Israel also. So Argentina is more complicated, but in Chile, I think you can make that case more easily that it was good for them.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Now we were going to touch on Argentina just now and you’re going to tie in ISIS to the CIA. So let’s hear about that.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh yeah. <strong>Pope Francis</strong>, his real name is <strong>Bergoglio</strong>. Ethnically, he is an Italian, even know a lot of people would like to make him out to be the first Latino pope, he’s an Italian.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Jorge Mario Bergoglio</b>, the given name of <b>Pope Francis</b>, was born in Flores, a barrio in Buenos Aires, on December 17th, 1936, the eldest of 5 siblings.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Bergoglio, who was head of the Jesuit order in Buenos Aires during Argentina’s grim “<i>dirty war,</i>” mostly tended to his bureaucratic rise within the Church as Argentine security forces “<i>disappeared</i>” some 30,000 people for torture and murder from 1976 to 1983, including 150 Catholic priests suspected of believing in “<i>liberation theology.</i>”</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Is he one of those are conversoes, one of those Italians that, were actually not really Italian, but actually jewish converting over to Catholicism from Italy.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I wouldn’t know. I haven’t done, I haven’t dug that deep. But he was definitely in league with, and in cahoots with, the CIA in their agenda in Argentina. He was involved with identifying dissenters, who were abducted and executed. A good site for learning about this period of history in this region is Global Research, which Michel Chossudovsky maintains. He takes an interest in that, because he was teaching economics in both those countries actually. He was teaching an Chile and he was also in Argentina. So he takes a personal interest in that. And that’s a good site that I would recommend generally. Now, he comes out from more of the leftist perspective and some of the terminology, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1663-orge-Mario-Bergoglio-and-General-Jorge-Videla.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23309 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1663-orge-Mario-Bergoglio-and-General-Jorge-Videla.gif" alt="" width="446" height="471" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Jorge Mario Bergoglio</strong> and <strong>General Jorge Videla</strong>.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<i>Jorge Mario Bergoglio not only supported the US sponsored dictatorship, he also played a direct and complicit role in the “Dirty War” (la guerra sucia”) in liaison with the military Junta headed by General Jorge Videla, leading to the arrest, imprisonment, torture and disappearance of progressive Catholic priests and laymen who were opposed to Argentina’s military rule.</i>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source: </b>http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-pope-who-is-francis-i-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-and-argentinas-dirty-war/5326675</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Most of that site is more of what you would call leftist per se, but sometimes you’re going to get a lot of exposure of these right wing death squads, from the left. [chuckling]</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, yeah. Now that’s why I mentioned the terminology. Though, some of the sites like Chossudovsky’s site will call people racists, or they’ll call them fascists, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> The Nazis and whatnot.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">If you just, in some cases, if you just replace the words, I mean if you just change the wording, you’re getting some truth there.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yes.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, I encourage people to get outside, kind of the echo chamber of the sense that, you know, they feel or refer reflecting, &#8230; A lot of people get stuck in the left right thing and, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I agree.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And you’re not getting the whole picture there. There is, what I’m interested in seeing is a synthesis of positions. Because I don’t see many people who are really getting the big picture.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> They’re not.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And certainly in terms of geopolitics in terms of the economic forces shaping the world. I feel like I get a lot were truth out of a lot of these, you know, quote unquote, left wing sites.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I get some, even from my Daily Kos, which is completely leftist. Another one is “<i>watch dot pair dot com</i>” that covers a lot of what I’m covering on my New Right series. And they will use those Nazi terms and racist terms and whatnot. But at the same time they are still exposing Israel and the judaic conspiracy and the Mossad and CIA, and Knights of Malta. They’re covering all different angles while they are still using those buzzwords of racist and whatnot.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh, yeah. Another good guy is <strong>James Petras</strong> [petras.lahaine.org].</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>James Petras</strong> (born c. 1930s) is a retired Bartle Professor (Emeritus) of Sociology at Binghamton University in Binghamton, New York and adjunct professor at Saint Mary&#8217;s University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada who has published on Latin American and Middle Eastern political issues. He is the author of more than 62 books published in 29 languages, and over 600 articles in professional journals.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And you’ll see him published sometimes at sites like, Global Research or Axis of Logic. Some of these social sites. But, I mean, the guy is pretty blunt in telling, you know, what’s going on. The guy even wrote about, he called out the jewish lobby and he didn’t even call it “<i>Israel lobby</i>” he called it the “<i>Jewish lobby</i>”. The Israel lobby got us into Iraq, so, some of these people, I mean, they speak in truth.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I even interviewed a guy that writes for <b>CounterPunch</b> [counterpunch.org] . And I mean that’s another leftist site, per se.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">CounterPunch is, I visit it once in a while and it’s got some some good content, sometimes it’s just intolerable. I mean, it depends on what they’re covering. If you want, you know, reasonable coverage of something like the Trayvon Martin case or something, this is going to be, you will throw up just trying to read it!</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah [laughing]</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, they&#8217;re good on the foreign policy stuff.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, this guy that I interviewed, he was covering the Smithfield Food buyout from a Chinese company, you know, the pork industry and how a chinese company became the world’s largest port processing company in the world and how Goldman Sachs was behind that merger and acquisition, so it was pretty interesting. So you’re going to get some good stuff from these lefty guys.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I even wrote a post called, “<i>When Lefties are Right</i>” because I encourage people to read a broad array of material.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1995-Matt-Forney-When-Lefties-are-right.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23243 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1995-Matt-Forney-When-Lefties-are-right.jpg" alt="" width="578" height="660" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/01/23/when-lefties-are-right/">https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/01/23/when-lefties-are-right/</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">One thing I try to do with my articles is write about things that I don’t see other people writing about. So I mean the HBD stuff is covered, there are enough people singing the praises of Donald Trump and, you know, if I see some area that’s being neglected I take an interest in that.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, all you have to do is go to twitter, go to the hash tag alternative right or HBD or NRx and you’ll get all those talking points <em>ad nauseum</em> and you’re not going to see much of anything else. It’s just going to be that angle, it’s not a broad picture, it’s pretty one dimensional.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. And I don’t see that I’m accomplishing much by just joining the amen corner.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, I am trying to bring something different to the table. Ideally I’m doing something unique that is fascinating</span>.</p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> You know, we’ve got about five minutes to our next break. Let’s cover more about the Latin America situation, as far as, how that was kind of the testing grounds for privatizing other areas around the world. Was there anymore that you wanted to touch upon for Argentina?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Argentina. The post I did about that one is titled, “<i>Neo-liberalisation Theology</i>”. And again that was dealing with Pope Francis’ involvement there. And I carry into Pope Francis’s role at present in Europe, because he says he’s still doing the globalists work, as see it. Michel Chossudovsky published an article at Global Research, the title of which I think pretty much sums up what the Vatican is about. He published an article titled, “<i>Washington’s Pope</i>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1997-Washingtons-Pope-article.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23244 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1997-Washingtons-Pope-article.jpg" alt="" width="739" height="621" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1997-Washingtons-Pope-article.jpg 739w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1997-Washingtons-Pope-article-600x504.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 739px) 100vw, 739px" /></a> </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-pope-who-is-francis-i-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-and-argentinas-dirty-war/5326675">http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-pope-who-is-francis-i-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-and-argentinas-dirty-war/5326675</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And some people like to make out like that there’s a Vatican hand controlling and secretly moving or puppeteering a lot of the events of the world. But as I see it, they’re basically just playing along with the the US foreign policy aims and globalist aims. They just kind of an, “<i>also ran</i>”, a kind of jackal that is tagging along, picking at the bones of the animals that others have killed.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I think of the Jesuits order, the Society of Jesus. You know, when they were the globalist arm at the time, where they would go into these Third World nations and subvert their their culture and get them to convert to Catholicism and pretty much become part of the globalist empire, per se. I think they’ve laid the groundwork a long time ago. Where now, these Jesuits are the learning institutions were your high public officials and your movers and shakers are learning their theology, their methods.</p>
<p>Whereas, I agree they’re not really the movers and shakers per se, anymore, there are more of the propagandists and the teachers of these people, like your Georgetown university’s and whatnot. Where these people are learning the methods of what the Jesuit order had done over the years. So, yeah they’re not really pulling the strings so much. So, yeah, go ahead. I’m sorry.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, I mean, when was the last time that the Vatican called Washington on anything of any importance? They basically play along with the game. I mean, the Vatican has nothing to say about 9/11 or anything. They’re not out there telling the truth. They’re obviously cowed and they’re obviously a subsidiary arm and subjugated party in the world. And I think they’re just happy to be thrown a bone and they’re kind of benefiting from Globalism as it’s being implemented in the US right now, with all the importation of these Third Worlders, because they’re, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Filling the churches!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Whites are abandoning the Catholic Church and and so they’re just kind of profiteers off all of this. And I think, again, I don’t see them as being all that powerful, really. They’re just a contributing factor to to the the general myth.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I do think that Cardinal Spellman did pull out of strings when he was the Cardinal of New York, back when Kennedy, JFK. Was around. They do say that Vietnam was Cardinal Spellman’s war. I don’t know if you’ve heard that term before?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23245 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam.jpg" alt="" width="1106" height="982" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam.jpg 1106w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam-600x533.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam-1024x909.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam-768x682.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1106px) 100vw, 1106px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Cardinal Spellman in Vietnam, Dec 25, 1965.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Cardinal Spellman getting his ring kissed, along with Bob Hope and other members of a USO Vietnam Show. At 07:48 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMYvhfjuEmU#t=470</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I have not heard that particular formulation.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Roy Cohn was also Cardinal Spellman’s lawyer. [chuckling]</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, if you look into who got rich off of that war, was it the Catholic Church or was it some of these defense interests?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Oh, not only the defense interests, but a lot of the heroin was coming back again to the US and whatnot, because of that situation.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, they were shipping it back in the caskets.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2001The-Crime-of-Patriots-drugs-in-GI-bodies-from-Vietnam.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23248 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2001The-Crime-of-Patriots-drugs-in-GI-bodies-from-Vietnam.jpg" alt="" width="682" height="548" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2001The-Crime-of-Patriots-drugs-in-GI-bodies-from-Vietnam.jpg 682w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2001The-Crime-of-Patriots-drugs-in-GI-bodies-from-Vietnam-600x482.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 682px) 100vw, 682px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Source: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.wanttoknow.info/militarysmuggledheroin">http://www.wanttoknow.info/militarysmuggledheroin</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yes, yes. That was another version of the French Connection.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> So God, gold, oil and drugs. Right.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. That’s the title of the book, actually. Yeah that’s that’s a whole other thing, a whole other can of worms.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> All right guys we will be right back after a longer break.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[57:40]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Welcome back everybody. I’m your host, Nick Spiro and I’ve got Rainer on with me and he can be found at icareviews.wordpress.com and aryanskynet.wordpress.com. And we were covering a lot of the Latin American implementation of privatizing their industries via the CIA and Israel and what not. And also I notice that Israel was supplying a lot of the arms over to Chile during that coup-d’etat, as well. With the other article that you have “<strong><i>Israeli War Industry Clashes with US Foreign Policy</i></strong>” the cases of El Salvador, Guatemala. Could you get into that article?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2002-Israeli-War-industry-in-Central-America.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23249 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2002-Israeli-War-industry-in-Central-America.jpg" alt="" width="584" height="970" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/04/16/israeli-war-industry-clashes-with-u-s-foreign-policy-the-cases-of-el-salvador-nicaragua-and-guatemala/</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh sure. Foreign policy of the United States has not necessarily been consistent in that region and there was a marked difference under President Carter. Now I’m not a Jimmy Carter fanboy, by any means. But, there was a change in policy there, because the US for decades has had a policy, as most people know, of supporting dictators that are agreeable to US corporate interests and there’s not usually a lot of attention paid to the human rights record of those dictators, as long as they have, as long as they go along with the game. And Carter was willing to change some of that. And the US had been supplying arms to some of the Central American countries, <strong>El Salvador</strong> and <strong>Guatemala</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2003-Map-of-Central-America.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23250 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2003-Map-of-Central-America.jpg" alt="" width="714" height="620" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2003-Map-of-Central-America.jpg 714w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2003-Map-of-Central-America-600x521.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 714px) 100vw, 714px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Map of Central America.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when Carter became aware of some of the atrocities going on these countries, he wanted to pull US support away. And he thought that he would be able to bring some stability and some peace to that region. He didn’t end up working in a way.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the reason was Israel. You know, Israel as everybody knows it’s supposed to be America’s number one ally in the Middle East and globally, it’s our best buddy, it’s the fifty first state and so forth. But, Israel wasn’t showing as much loyalty, in these cases, as soon as the Carter administration withdrew support from some of these dictators in Central America, by not providing any more arms and anymore aircraft, the Israelis would just move in.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They have a huge weapons industry and they would move in and supply the arms to these dictatorships and also training the death squads. The Israelis have a huge arms industry from the beginning, because in the beginning of the Zionist project they weren’t necessarily able to get all the arms they wanted. So they developed their own industry.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> They were getting a lot in the beginning. When they first established themselves in ‘48, from, I believe the Czech republic were shipping a lot over to them. I don’t know if you’ve gone into that part.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">No, but they definitely became self-sufficient in the production of arms. And their most famous export is probably that is the Uzi machine gun, that was invented by Uziel Gal. But they branched out into all all sorts of paramilitary training. And a lot of the aircraft that they’re provided by Western governments, they would in turn sell to some of these Third World countries.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Uziel Gal holding his wooden-stocked Uzi (left) and a German MP40. Designed just after the 1948 Arab-Israeli war the, CZ Model 25 inspired, Uzi was adopted by the Israeli Defence Forces in 1951 when the first shipments were issued to Special forces and paratroops. Gal was a German born Jew who had moved to Palestine before the beginning of the Second World War when the state of Israel was incorporated he joined the fledgling IDF, eventually retiring as a major in the 1970s. </span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> They also are the largest drone manufacturer and distributor now, from what I understand.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Basically anything that kills people they will make a buck off of it. So yeah, Central America is really a tragedy and Carter was not effective in that case. I think he deserves to have his good intentions noted at least in that case. Now, the US was still middling overseas under <strong>Carter</strong>. And <strong>Brzezinski</strong>, in Afghanistan for instance, Brzezinski has even admitted in more recent years, that the CIA instigated that trouble in Afghanistan that provoked the Soviet Union into invading it. That was sort of an engineered situation.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23252 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance.jpg" alt="" width="1155" height="784" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance.jpg 1155w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance-600x407.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance-1024x695.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance-768x521.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1155px) 100vw, 1155px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] &#8220;<i>In this photo image from 1977, National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski is seen with US President Jimmy Carter and US Secretary of State Cyrus Vance. President Carter had reversed the policy of Dr. Henry Kissinger and had issued US visa to His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama during 1979.</i>&#8221; <b>Source:</b> <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://wholedude.com/tag/us-president-jimmy-carter/">https://wholedude.com/tag/us-president-jimmy-carter/</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, Carter was not the the warmongering Zionist that our more recent Commanders in Chief who are. And as soon as Reagan came in, in 1980, that was really the death knell for any kind of effective resistance to these Zionist plots in America. That was when he brought in all the neo-cons and and so the US support for all of these horrible murderers and dictators and death squads was resumed.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> So you talk a little bit about El Salvador with <strong>Colonel [Sigifredo] Ochoa</strong>. Could you talk a little bit about him.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ochoa was a guy who had received training from the Israelis and that’s their specialty, the search and destroy technicians. <strong>Ochoa</strong>, he was basically, just a monster, he was just massacring people. And he expressed his admiration of the Israelis.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2006-Salvadoran-warlord-Sigifredo-Ochoa.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23253 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2006-Salvadoran-warlord-Sigifredo-Ochoa.jpg" alt="" width="544" height="331" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Salvadoran warlord Sigifredo Ochoa: apt pupil of Israeli extermination tactics</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Another guy in Central America who was a big admirer of the Israelis was Manuel Noriega. And Noriega, when he was taken down by Bush one, the guy who was basically second in command, became the eminence griese of the Noriega administration, a man named Michael Harari who was an Israeli Mossad agent. So that that’s really a chapter of the history of the Americas that doesn’t get a lot of attention is how Israel had it’s fingers in all of this. All of the dictatorships, of these dirty wars and so forth.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> So we’re tying two different articles together now, the “<i>Michael Harari, Yair Klein, and the Zio-Colombian Cocaine-Carnage Connection</i>”. That’s another article that we’re kind of touching upon now. Could you go back towards the Israeli war industry clashes with US policy a little bit more, just to paint a bigger picture.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">OK. Well, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Could you talk about the AFL the CIOs, the unions in this article. And how the aid was terminated from US?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. The Israelis were involved in a lot more than and just supplying arms. They were also involved in undermining the labor movements in these countries and they were involved in some pretty, for the times, sophisticated domestic surveillance technology implementations. They were selling these computer systems to more than one of these Central American governments and these were, in a way, sort of the testing ground for the <strong>Patriot Act</strong> and some of these 1984 style domestic spying operations. I mean, at the time they were testing all of this, these systems in these Central America countries and nobody cared because it was a Third World. So in the end, that’s not our problem, right?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it was a bad situation and the Israelis were basically complicit in the rounding up and murder and imprisonment of any sort of dissidents. And these people, of course, would be characterized as radicals or communists and they were just people who opposed the the governments that they were living under, which were kowtowing to the Globalist interests.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I covered a little bit about the computer systems for spying devices and keeping track of all the people who could potentially be enemies of the plots controlling these different. Third World countries. Now, have you gone into any of the School of the Americas where a lot of these Latin American militants are trained in America, I think in, what, Georgia? I think that’s where it’s located. But they changed the name of it recently, but still, the same system in place.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">No I didn’t write about that specifically in one of my articles. What I was writing about in the <strong>Michael Harari</strong>, <strong>Yair Klein</strong> piece was about how the Israelis specifically were providing training to Colombian drug lords.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2010-Yair-Klein.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23256 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2010-Yair-Klein.jpg" alt="" width="616" height="354" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2010-Yair-Klein.jpg 616w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2010-Yair-Klein-600x345.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 616px) 100vw, 616px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] &#8220;<i>Yair Klein is a former lieutenant colonel in the Israeli army, who established a private mercenary company called Spearhead Ltd. Through Spearhead Ltd, Klein provided arms and training to armed forces in South America, Lebanon, and Sierra Leone. Klein and his company have been accused of training the death-squads of drug traffickers and right-wing militias in Colombia in the 1980s. Klein was convicted by judicial authorities in Colombia for training several members of Colombian paramilitary groups and the militias of drug traffickers such as Gonzalo Rodríguez Gacha and Pablo Escobar Gaviria in 1987. Klein was convicted in 2001 by a Colombian court, and the Colombian government made unsuccessful attempts to obtain his extradition from Israel</i>.&#8221; Source: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://america.pink/yair-klein_4859480.html">http://america.pink/yair-klein_4859480.html</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2008-Noriegas-Hitler-portait.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23254 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2008-Noriegas-Hitler-portait.jpg" alt="" width="580" height="737" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/03/26/michael-harari-yair-klein-and-the-zio-colombian-cocaine-carnage-connection/</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s that’s the theme of some of the these articles, is that they don’t care who they do business with. They will do business with anybody even, even the ostensible enemies of their putative best, you know, greatest ally in the world. They’ll, you know, as soon as the US turns it’s back, there’s no loyalty there whatsoever. There’s no reciprocity of fellow feeling at all with these people.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2009-Mike-Harari.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23255 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2009-Mike-Harari.jpg" alt="" width="614" height="479" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2009-Mike-Harari.jpg 614w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2009-Mike-Harari-600x468.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 614px) 100vw, 614px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Mike Harari, a former Israeli Mossad agent on Israeli TV in 1990.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so the US had this supposed war on drugs going on, and I’m not going to get into that to the extent to which, &#8230; It was not exactly with they advertised it as being. But, the Israelis were, if you believe the Washington report on Middle East affairs. They published an article in which they argued that this Mossad agent, Michael Harari who is second in charge in Panama under <strong>Manuel Noriega</strong>, that he was actually involved in shipping drugs from Colombia into the US. So, I mean there’s clearly a conflict of interest. That’s the theme of all of these Israeli involvements in Latin America. There’s a consistency to their opposition to and their profiteering from the failure of US policies in these countries.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] General Manuel Noriega with then Vice President (and former CIA Director) George H. W. Bush. As a CIA asset and drug-runner he was military dictator of Panama from 1983 to 1989, until he was removed from power by the United States during the invasion of Panama.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> And then in your article it says that <strong>Noriega</strong> had undergone military and intelligence training in Israel, jumping five times with Israeli troopers. And like uganda’s disposed dictator, Idi Amin, probably wore his Israeli paratrooper wings on his uniform for many years afterwards.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Noriega was a great admirer of the Israelis. He liked the Israeli style and even the name that he gave to his army was modeled after the Israeli Defense Forces. He called them the Panamanian Defense Forces [PDF] . So there was a conscious effort on his part to emulate what the Israelis had done, and I’m sure that <strong>Michael Harari</strong> had a lot to do with it. He’s described in in newspaper articles, you’ll see him described as an advisor to Noriega. But I’m not convinced that he wasn’t the one running the country.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1945-Idi-Amin-Noriega-Israeli-paratropper-wings.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23236 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1945-Idi-Amin-Noriega-Israeli-paratropper-wings.jpg" alt="" width="644" height="689" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1945-Idi-Amin-Noriega-Israeli-paratropper-wings.jpg 644w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1945-Idi-Amin-Noriega-Israeli-paratropper-wings-600x642.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 644px) 100vw, 644px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Both Noriega and Idi Amin wearing their Israeli paratrooper wings.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right. And then Noriega even sent his kids to a Jewish community’s prestigious Alberto Einstein day school and to an Israeli kibbutz one summer. Noriega also employed other Israeli security experts in the Harari organized PDF, which in effect became the Noriega administration.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, and what’s so absurd about this, is that in the run up to the takedown of the Noriega government, there were these columnists in American newspapers talking about the horrible anti-semitism in Panama. And the most hilarious episode was when the US invaded and they took Noriega’s compound and there was supposedly this big portrait of Adolf Hitler, that they found in this office.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the idea, of course, was that the US had stopped another Hitler and there was a new Hitler on the rise! And that’s always the justification for these interventions abroad. It’s always a new holocaust looming on the horizon or something. If you go to Google newspapers, “<i>news dot Google dot com</i>” I believe, you can find these old articles. And there’s one where some columnist is talking, comparing it to Germany in the ‘30s and so forth, and it was such a perilous situation for them there. It was just a total fraud.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> So, another key role, Harari may have played in smuggling Colombian drugs into the United States. There are other Israeli connections to Colombia and to the Medellin cartel in particular. 1989 NBC aired a videotape that showed Israeli mercenaries training Colombian drug cartel assassins. It’s crazy!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. And you can find some snippets about that on YouTube, and you can find a little bit about <strong>Yair Klein</strong>. I’m not good with these Israeli names. Yes that guy, again he’s just another one of these in numerable Israeli low-lifes and monsters who just pop up throughout the Third World and in Latin American particular. He was training armies for these Medellin drug cartels. These were hit squads that would go out and kill people and it’s all they were doing. Again, you get the absurd excuses in the mainstream media and newspaper articles at the time, were quoting Mr Klein and some of his associates as saying that:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Well all we were really doing in Colombia was training these farmers to defend themselves against cattle rustlers</i>” or something.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They couldn’t even come up with a better story than that. And I mean, it was still obvious what they were up to down there.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> This is a really in-depth article that everybody should read. I’m going to share these links and the show description. I usually have, I haven’t done that yet but these articles are well researched with a lot of sourced information with even videos that cover some of the things we’re talking about, in more depth. So, please, people read these articles. It’s worthwhile. I know it’s history, you know, already happened, that doesn’t pertain today, but at the same time it just paints a picture of what’s going on today. It’s pretty much the footprint of, this blueprint, that they go off of and they just keep repeating it, over and over again in other areas.</p>
<p>We were going to cover Trumps connections with a lot of these different groups, as well. Let’s get into Trump, since he is the Republican nominee.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2020-Thank-You-Lord-Jesus-for-President-Trump.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23258 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2020-Thank-You-Lord-Jesus-for-President-Trump.jpg" alt="" width="1008" height="669" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2020-Thank-You-Lord-Jesus-for-President-Trump.jpg 1008w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2020-Thank-You-Lord-Jesus-for-President-Trump-600x398.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2020-Thank-You-Lord-Jesus-for-President-Trump-768x510.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1008px) 100vw, 1008px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] “<i>Thank You Lord Jesus for President Trump</i>”</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, sure. I’ve written a number of articles about Trump and I have taken a little bit of heat for that.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Of course.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> [laughing] But, it’s difficult to see how anybody can turn a blind eye to it. I mean, this guy’s jewish connections, zionist connections, make <strong>George W Bush</strong> look like <strong>Father Coughlin</strong> and, you know. I mean, I don’t even know where to start. I mean <strong>Roy Cohn</strong> isn’t even the only person allegedly connected with child prostitution rings to be connected with Trump.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23259 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire.jpg" alt="" width="933" height="1223" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire.jpg 933w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire-600x786.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire-781x1024.jpg 781w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire-768x1007.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 933px) 100vw, 933px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Roy Cohn, the “<i>Legal Executioner</i>” on the cover of Esquire magazine, Dec 5, 1978.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Other figures, trafficking in underage sex slaves who’d been tied to Trump is <strong>Ghislaine Maxwell</strong>, who is the daughter of a British publisher and Mossad spy named <strong>Robert Maxwell</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2022-Jewess-Ghislaine-Maxwell-with-Donald-Trump.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23260 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2022-Jewess-Ghislaine-Maxwell-with-Donald-Trump.jpg" alt="" width="664" height="677" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2022-Jewess-Ghislaine-Maxwell-with-Donald-Trump.jpg 664w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2022-Jewess-Ghislaine-Maxwell-with-Donald-Trump-600x612.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 664px) 100vw, 664px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Jewess Ghislaine Maxwell with Donald Trump</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> He’s also been involved in real estate deals with a man named <strong>Felix Sater</strong>. Felix Slater is a really interesting figure. At one time he had an office in a Trump building and he had a business card that listed him as a member of the Trump organization and as an advisor to Trump.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2023-A-montage-image-of-Trump-and-Felix-Sater.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23261 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2023-A-montage-image-of-Trump-and-Felix-Sater.jpg" alt="" width="819" height="460" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2023-A-montage-image-of-Trump-and-Felix-Sater.jpg 819w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2023-A-montage-image-of-Trump-and-Felix-Sater-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2023-A-montage-image-of-Trump-and-Felix-Sater-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 819px) 100vw, 819px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] A montage image of Trump and Felix Sater.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this guy is tied into “<i>Deep State</i>” activities as well. This man Felix Sater, he’s weird and he’s gotten himself into some legal trouble. But at the same time he seems to have a, “<i>get out of the jail free card</i>”. He’s one of these shady characters who is a made man of sorts. He apparently has been involved in work for the CIA.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s a video on YouTube of a ceremony which he was named by Chabad of Port Washington’s “<i>Man of the Year</i>”. I think it was for 2014. In this, it’s a bizarre video, because it’s this rabbi, it’s Felix Sater’s rabbi going on about how Felix Sater is some kind of secret agent, and he’s apparently done work for the CIA in all these countries and he’s some kind of kosher James Bond, apparently. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2024-Sater’s-rabbi-Chabad-of-Port-Washington’s-“Man-of-the-Year”.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23262 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2024-Sater’s-rabbi-Chabad-of-Port-Washington’s-“Man-of-the-Year”.jpg" alt="" width="661" height="660" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2024-Sater’s-rabbi-Chabad-of-Port-Washington’s-“Man-of-the-Year”.jpg 661w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2024-Sater’s-rabbi-Chabad-of-Port-Washington’s-“Man-of-the-Year”-600x599.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 661px) 100vw, 661px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Sater’s rabbi talking about Chabad of Port Washington’s “<i>Man of the Year</i>”. <b>Link</b>: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSpFtCmoD5o</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, Trump, even Trump has tried to distance himself from this Sater character. And there was a lawsuit, I believe a class action lawsuit filed against Sater, his company. And it was from investors in a building that was ostensibly going to be a Trump Tower and Trump, …</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If you don’t know this, if your listeners don’t know this they should. </span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Trump is basically a front for other people’s money. That’s what he does professionally. Fronts for other people’s money. He’s a money launderer and Trump’s involvement with the Sater deal was basically nominal.</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> It was minimal and these investors had been led to believe that Trump was the mover behind it and it was going to be some glamorous respectable deal and these people found out that Sater was really the guy behind it. He was involved in all of this unsavory business. And one of the allegations they make against him in their filing, is that he was apparently mixed up with child prostitution even, and this may have been some kind of blackmail.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Roy Cohn was pretty much involved with that too.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. So this is a pattern in Donald Trump’s life. He’s mixed up with these people. And if you mention this on Twitter, if you bring some of this up and some of these these Trump supporters, they just, they don’t want to hear it and then their response I get sometimes is:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Oh well, Trump’s his own man. He’s independent, he’s a billionaire! How are these people going to control Trump?</i>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well even if you believe that, well, what does it say about him, in that he consistently associates with these types of individuals?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Well, you can’t use that guilty by association card!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Right, but Donald Trump is one of the the biggest rabbit holes I’ve ever come across in that the connections with this guy is just endless.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right. Exactly. Just with the casinos alone. Just skimming that takes place, money off the top that’s unreported that can be done, you know, he can do anything with investments and like what you’re saying, the money launderers as well.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah I think you brought up the <strong>Michael Collins Piper</strong> article, “<strong><i>Who Towers Behind Trump?</i></strong>” in which he talks about somewhat, some of his beginnings with, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23263 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg" alt="" width="623" height="824" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg 623w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper-600x794.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 623px) 100vw, 623px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] http://americanfreepress.net/who-towers-behind-trump/</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Resorts International.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Resorts International, which was a mob, CIA., &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b><strong>Meyer Lansky</strong>, <strong>Rothschild</strong>, <strong>Rockefeller</strong>, all the above.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. But the myth of course is that he’s this self-made man and he’s so good at business and making deals. It’s almost a magical ability here, his deal making, it’s just kind of, it’s this superficial mystique. That’s been cultivated. People swallow it.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> All you really have to do, I mean, you don’t really have to just do that, but there are so many other angles to look at with Trump. But a lot of different avenues will open up if you look into the lobby group, the BMSK lobby group., you know, the <strong>Roger Stone</strong> and <strong>Charlie Black</strong> and <strong>Paul Manafort</strong>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2026-Felix-Sater-with-Nixon-tatto.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23264 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2026-Felix-Sater-with-Nixon-tatto.jpg" alt="" width="594" height="839" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Roger Stone’s Nixon tattoo. “<i>Not long ago, Stone went to the Ink Monkey tattoo shop in Venice Beach and had a portrait of Nix- on’s face applied to his back, right below the neck. “Women love it,” Stone said.</i>” <b><i>New Yorker</i></b> magazine, June 2, 2008.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Link</b>: http://stonezone.com/docs/NewYorker-Toobin-Stone.pdf</span></p>
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<p>Their lobby group pretty much was involved in a lot of the different overthrows of governments and replacement of dictators and the drugs, the oil, the gold, all that. Even in the Ukraine, that you mentioned earlier, Paul Manafort pretty much put in a pro-Putin President at one point where. Where, he was being outed and overthrown he was loading up gold bullion and headed over to Russia. Its crazy.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I don’t remember where I read it, but I remember there was some article I read. I think it was on a jewish website or maybe an Israeli site. There was this article with the title something to this effect, “<i>Why Trump is the the Most Israeli US Presidential Candidate</i>”. He was the most jewish or the most Israeli.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2028-American-jews-who-support-Trump.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23265 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2028-American-jews-who-support-Trump.jpg" alt="" width="762" height="838" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2028-American-jews-who-support-Trump.jpg 762w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2028-American-jews-who-support-Trump-600x660.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 762px) 100vw, 762px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.jta.org/2016/03/08/news-opinion/politics/to-understand-the-american-jews-who-support-trump-read-this">http://www.jta.org/2016/03/08/news-opinion/politics/to-understand-the-american-jews-who-support-trump-read-this</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The article points out how he had all this chutzpah and he had this brash style that was quintessentially Israeli. And the great irony is, that’s what appeals to all these the these 14/88ers or these, you know, NRxers on Twitter. What they don’t realize is it’s these kind of sleazy Israeli qualities to him that are appealing to them. And they see it is some kind of, you know, “<i>manoferian</i>”, some kind of macho thing that recalls, you know, “<i>Aryan greatness</i>”. Some kind quintessential European sensibility he expresses, that&#8217;s not. It’s just kind of this tacky showbiz persona.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> He’s kind of, I said this earlier in a tweet with another guy, Robert Revolt, that Trump is the <strong>John Gotti</strong> 2.0</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2032-John-Gotti-mugshot.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23268 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2032-John-Gotti-mugshot.jpg" alt="" width="575" height="574" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>John Joseph Gotti, Jr.</b> (October 27, 1940 – June 10, 2002) aka “<i>The Teflon Don</i>” and  “<i>The Dapper Don</i>” was the former boss of the Gambino Crime Family. He is well known for taking control of the family by having his boss, Paul Castellano, and underboss killed. In 1991, Gotti&#8217;s underboss, Sammy Gravano, would become a government informant and help the FBI bring Gotti to justice.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Link</b>: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/John_Gotti">http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/John_Gotti</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh, definitely.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Roy Cohn actually represented John Gotti too, by the way.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, the mafia connections are not, I haven’t written about those. But, yeah, that stuff is there and that’s why I said he’s just the biggest rabbit hole. I mean, you look into one of these affiliations of his, it opens up another one. And the guy is so saturated with filth by association. I mean there’s just, I don’t see how people can continue to convince themselves that:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Oh, he’s just tricking them. He’s going to sneak up on them and, you know, turn the tables and then he’s going to really show them, and he’s going to build that wall and Israel’s finished and, &#8230;</i>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Well, a lot of these people who like Trump, who support him, they might realize that he’s got these connections and they know, well, if you’re this rich and famous you are going to have those connections. But so what! He’s going to build the wall! He’s going to kick the beaners out!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I’ve heard those arguments they say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Well he’s in showbiz, so you have to understand he’s going to have those connections</i>” or, “<i>He’s in casinos, so that’s the kind of people you have to deal with, when you’re working in casinos, or in real estate, you have to work with gangsters and and so</i>”.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, why do we need a casino magnate to be president, then? Maybe we should look in some other field, you know, where we don’t have to have a candidate who’s connected with a child sex slave trafficker and gangsters and Zionist prime ministers?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah. I don’t know if you saw that video were Trump purchased the yacht from <strong>Adnan Khashoggi</strong>? One of the largest arms dealers in the world at one point.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23270 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht.jpg" alt="" width="1196" height="795" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht.jpg 1196w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht-600x399.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht-768x511.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1196px) 100vw, 1196px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Adnan Kashoggi&#8217;s daughter, Nabila, is next to her father&#8217;s yacht, 86 m (282 ft) in length.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2033-video-on-Trump-buying-arms-dealers-yacht.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23269 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2033-video-on-Trump-buying-arms-dealers-yacht.jpg" alt="" width="636" height="638" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2033-video-on-Trump-buying-arms-dealers-yacht.jpg 636w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2033-video-on-Trump-buying-arms-dealers-yacht-600x602.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 636px) 100vw, 636px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Link</b>: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM3dcaVZh3k</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, a lot of people have seen the commercial that Trump did for <strong>Benjamin Netanyahu</strong>. That’s not even the extent of it and it just goes on. And one of the connections that I found most ridiculous and laughable was his friendship with <b>Stewart Rahr</b>, the pharmaceuticals magnate.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2035-Donald-Trump-Stewart-Rahr-and-Russell-Simmons.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23271 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2035-Donald-Trump-Stewart-Rahr-and-Russell-Simmons.jpg" alt="" width="743" height="543" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2035-Donald-Trump-Stewart-Rahr-and-Russell-Simmons.jpg 743w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2035-Donald-Trump-Stewart-Rahr-and-Russell-Simmons-600x438.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 743px) 100vw, 743px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Donald Trump, <b>Stewart Rahr</b> and Russell Simmons at the <b>25th Annual Great Sports Legends Dinner</b> benefitting <b>The Buoniconti Fund</b> held at New York&#8217;s Waldorf Astoria, Sep 27, 2010.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Stewart Rahr, if your listeners don’t know, he’s a billionaire. He’s the guy who made a bundle off of <em><strong>Cipro</strong></em> when there was the anthrax scare in 2001. Cipro was administered allegedly to the White House and to the President, Vice President. And obviously everybody had to have it, you know, when the anthrax story, you know, “<i>Death to America</i>”, “<i>Death to Israel</i>” anthrax letters were in the news. Stewart Rahr made a bundle off that. Cipro’s been criticized, it’s gotten some bad press in the last few months. It’s apparently is not as effective as it was previously claimed and some people said it’s even caused paralysis in them.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2037-Rainer’s-article-“Trump-and-the-Number-One-King-of-Fun.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23272 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2037-Rainer’s-article-“Trump-and-the-Number-One-King-of-Fun.jpg" alt="" width="578" height="794" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] icareviews/Rainer’s article, “<b><i>Trump and the Number One King of Fun</i></b>”. <b>Link</b>: <a style="color: #008000; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/trump-and-the-number-one-king-of-all-fun/">https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/trump-and-the-number-one-king-of-all-fun/</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Wow!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And other problems. Stewart Rahr, he’s probably the most grotesque of the Trump associations, with the possible exception of Cohn. This guy Stewart Rahn is a huge IDF booster. He’s a big sponsor of them. And he’s also, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> All right, we’ll be right back with the last half hour, everybody.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>BREAK</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Welcome back everybody and if you want to call in the number is 747 222 8807. We have a half an hour for your phone calls. So we’re covering Trump just now and his unsavory connections, if that’s the best way to say it. So, Rainer If you want to continue on the pharmaceutical billionaire.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. <strong>Stewart Rahr</strong>, his nickname for himself is the, “<i>Number one king of all fun</i>”. He also calls himself, “<i>Stewy Rahr Rahr</i>”. He’s like the most stereotypical tacky, sleazy, shekel rubbing semite you can imagine. And it’s not just that he’s an Israel booster and it’s not just he’s a billionaire. The guy is really a complete sleaze bag.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He divorced his wife a few years ago. And he made his own porno film in a limousine with a couple of girls. And he sent it to all his friends, all these important New York people. He sent this porno, starring himself, to all these people. And just guy, this guy hobnobs with B<strong>ill Clinton</strong>. He has access to all these figures of prominence.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2038-Tennis-legend-Jimmy-Connors-Stewart-Rahr-President-Bill-Clinton-and-Mike-Miken-in-New-York.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23273 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2038-Tennis-legend-Jimmy-Connors-Stewart-Rahr-President-Bill-Clinton-and-Mike-Miken-in-New-York.jpg" alt="" width="718" height="424" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2038-Tennis-legend-Jimmy-Connors-Stewart-Rahr-President-Bill-Clinton-and-Mike-Miken-in-New-York.jpg 718w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2038-Tennis-legend-Jimmy-Connors-Stewart-Rahr-President-Bill-Clinton-and-Mike-Miken-in-New-York-600x354.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 718px) 100vw, 718px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Tennis legend Jimmy Connors, Stewart Rahr, President Bill Clinton and Mike Miken in New York.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The man’s business card is a fake unit of currency, it’s like a fake dollar, hundred or thousand dollar bill, or something. It’s got a picture of him, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump playing golf together.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2039-Stewart-Rahr’s-business-card-featuring-Donald-Trump-and-Bill-Clinton.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23274 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2039-Stewart-Rahr’s-business-card-featuring-Donald-Trump-and-Bill-Clinton.jpg" alt="" width="571" height="779" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Stewart Rahr’s business card, featuring Donald Trump and Bill Clinton. <b>Link</b>: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2009/08/introducing_stewie_rah_rah_bea.html#">http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2009/08/introducing_stewie_rah_rah_bea.html#</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Nice!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he has replaced the name, “<i>God</i>” with his name on it. It says, “<i>In Stewart We Trust</i>”. [laughter] It tells you a lot about how he views himself and his place in the world. And what’s especially sinister about this man’s, Stewart Rahr, connection with Trump. Is that Stewart Rahr was one of the figures behind the, “<i>Should Trump Run dot com</i>” web site back in 2011. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2040-May-2011-screenshot-from-waybackmachine.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23275 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2040-May-2011-screenshot-from-waybackmachine.jpg" alt="" width="983" height="957" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2040-May-2011-screenshot-from-waybackmachine.jpg 983w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2040-May-2011-screenshot-from-waybackmachine-600x584.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2040-May-2011-screenshot-from-waybackmachine-768x748.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 983px) 100vw, 983px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] May, 2011 screenshot from waybackmachine., re “<b><i>Should Donald Trum Run for President</i></b>” <b>Link</b>: https://web.archive.org/web/20110720042057/http://shouldtrumprun.com/welcome/</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You may recall there were some a little bit of noise back in 2012, whether or not Trump would run. And there had been this web site started, “<i>Should Trump Run dot com</i>” and he was testing the waters, gauging public interest in possible Trump candidacy. And Stewart Rahr was behind it. He was involved with a couple of New York lawyers. I believe their names were, <strong>David Schwartz</strong> and <strong>Bradley Gerstmann</strong>. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"> <a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2041-Trump-with-attorneys-David-Schwartz-left-and-Bradley-Gerstman.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23276 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2041-Trump-with-attorneys-David-Schwartz-left-and-Bradley-Gerstman.jpg" alt="" width="555" height="331" /></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Trump with attorneys David Schwartz (left) and Bradley Gerstman.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">These guys are in a practice together, and what’s interesting about these two lawyers, is that they’re not just involved with Rahr. They advertise on the web site for their firm, for the practice, that they they’ve been involved with both Clintons and they’ve also been involved with George Bush.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean you can find photo ops on the web site with these guys hanging out with Hillary Clinton. And that would, I mean, that would, &#8230; If you happen to be partial to the theory that Trump is in there as a kind of decoy way to get Hillary elected, that’s something you can point to. I have not committed to a theory of what exactly Trump’s game is. I’m open to different theories.</span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">I know Hipster Racist [a commenter on Ayran Skynet] is convinced that Trump is strictly a Zionist agent, in that he intends to get elected and he intends to implement a hardcore Zionist administration.</span></strong></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I agree with that!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’m open to that interpretation. I have not necessarily relinquished the possibility that he’s just going to take a dive for Hillary. I think it could still happen.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> There’s still the notion that this dominion [?] theology. The, you know, the Old Testament rule of law would become the rule of law of America. I think that’s still a plan to be implemented with the evangelical right. You know, how the Noahide Laws were passed under poppy Bush under a different act or bills. So, and with the Latin America region, I forgot to point out, while all these replacement of leaders were taken place, a lot of the evangelicals were involved. Also, they produced a bible, similar to your <strong>Scofield</strong> [bible] I would imagine, the <strong>White Cliffs</strong> bible translators that started teaching these Latin Americans to be pro Israel., you know, started teaching them that Jews are the God’s chosen, just like the evangelicals over in America. So, that’s part of the agenda down there as well, to be pro Israel.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23277 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible.jpg" alt="" width="453" height="640" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] &#8220;The <b>Scofield Reference Bible</b> is a widely circulated study Bible edited and annotated by the American Bible student <b>Cyrus I. Scofield</b>, which popularized dispensationalism at the beginning of the 20th century. Published by Oxford University Press and containing the entire text of the traditional, Protestant King James Version, it first appeared in 1909 and was revised by the author in 1917.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The Scofield Bible had several innovative features. Most important, it printed what amounted to a commentary on the biblical text alongside the Bible instead of in a separate volume, the first to do so since the Geneva Bible (1560). It also contained a cross-referencing system that tied together related verses of Scripture and allowed a reader to follow biblical themes from one chapter and book to another. &#8220;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source</b>: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Reference_Bible">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Reference_Bible</a>.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;The <b>Scofield Reference Bible</b> was not to be just another translation, subverting minor passages a little at a time. No, Scofield produced a revolutionary book that radically changed the context of the <b>King James Version</b>. It was designed to create a subculture around a new worship icon, the modern State of Israel, a state that did not yet exist, but which was already on the drawing boards of the committed, well-funded authors of <b>World Zionism</b>.&#8221;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> http://www.rense.com/general60/zcre.htm</span></p>
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<p>I talked to somebody how they were surprised at how many of these Brazilians were pro Israel and it’s because of this bible translation that took place, for these people to be pro Israel like that.</p>
<p>So more on Trump, more connections. What do you know, about Jeffrey Epstien?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Jeffrey Epstein his has been connected with Trump, both in Florida and New York. They’ve been known to dine together and there have been calls between them. And most notoriously, Trump’s name was found in Epstein’s little black book, his book of contacts. And these are presumably people who would have been clients, of one sort or another. And the inference people have made is that Trump, you know, may have partaken of the, little &#8220;<strong><i>Lolita Express</i></strong>” on one or more occasions. And Trump, of course, will distance himself from that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23278 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane.jpg" alt="" width="1192" height="709" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane.jpg 1192w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane-600x357.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane-1024x609.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane-768x457.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1192px) 100vw, 1192px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Jeffrey Epstein&#8217;s &#8220;<b><i>Lolita Express</i></b>&#8221; plane, a Boeing 727 jet, was reportedly set up with a bed where guests had sex with young girls.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<b>7 Things You Need To Know About Trump And Sex Slave Island</b></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Here are seven connections between Trump and Epstein&#8217;s sex slave endeavors that you need to know about:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">1.Trump himself has said that Epstein is “<em>a lot of fun to be with,</em>” adding that he admired the sex offender&#8217;s affinity for beautiful women “<em>on the younger side.</em>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">2. Trump was named in Epstein’s “<em>little black book.</em>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Epstein’s “<em>little black book</em>” was stolen by a former employee in 2004. The book, nicknamed &#8220;<em>The Holy Grail</em>&#8221; by the employee, revealed the name of Donald Trump and listed “<em>14 phone numbers including emergency numbers, car numbers, and numbers to Trump&#8217;s security guard and houseman.</em>” </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">3. Trump has allegedly flown on Epstein’s private plane — a hot spot for under-age sex orgies.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">4. Both Trump and Epstein are named as sex abusers in a case with an under-aged girl.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">5. Epstein admitted to knowing Trump under oath, and curiously pled the fifth to Trump attending sex parties with underage girls.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">6. At least one of Epstein’s underage sex victims was recruited from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago — which he frequented often.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">7. Trump was subpoenaed in 2009 for his connection to Epstein’s under-age sex slave rings. Trump has denied ever being served.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source</b>: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo">http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But again, it’s just it’s one in a number of episodes in connections that establish a pattern. There’s just too big a bit of a pattern with this guy to ignore any of this. And that I don’t think it’s something you can just laugh off. And it’s disturbing that so many people are willing to take this in stride.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2046-Trump-Epstein-and-the-Clintons.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23279 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2046-Trump-Epstein-and-the-Clintons.jpg" alt="" width="698" height="443" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2046-Trump-Epstein-and-the-Clintons.jpg 698w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2046-Trump-Epstein-and-the-Clintons-600x381.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 698px) 100vw, 698px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Trump</b>, <b>Epstein</b> and the <b>Clintons</b>.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<b>Jeffrey Edward Epstein</b> (born January 20, 1953) is an American financier. He worked at Bear Stearns early in his career and subsequently formed his own firm, J. Epstein &amp; Co. In 2008 Epstein was convicted of, and served eighteen months in prison for, soliciting an underage girl for prostitution. He is a registered sex offender.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b><i>New Yorker </i></b>magazine: Epstein likes to tell people that he&#8217;s a loner, a man who&#8217;s never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to <b>Donald Trump</b>, a different Epstein emerges. &#8220;<i>I&#8217;ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,&#8217;</i>&#8216; Trump booms from a speakerphone. &#8220;<i>He&#8217;s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it &#8212; Jeffrey enjoys his social life.&#8221;</i>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> http://www.chartword.com/2015/07/donald-trump-clintons-and-jeffrey.html</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Here’s an article:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>Roy Cohn two man he mentored in the art of manipulation, Roger Stone and Donald Trump. When Trump was still in his twenty’s, he hired Cohn and began to move in the same circles. Both were members Le Club, a private hot spot where the rich and famous and social climbers can meet without suffering the presence of ordinary people. Later when Studio 54 served the glitter and cocaine crowd, &#8230;</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>Where did the cocaine come from, ha? With everything that the Israelis were doing in Latin America, I would imagine.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Cohn and Trump were there to. Cohn modeled the style for Trump that was, one part, ‘</i><b><i>friendly gossip</i></b><i>’ and one part, ‘</i><b><i>menace</i></b><i>’. Cohn looked and sounded like someone who could hurt you if you crossed him. Trump kept the photo of the glowering Cohn, so he could show it to those who might be chilled by the idea that this man was his lawyer. </i></p>
<p><i>It was Cohn who introduced Trump to a young political operator named Roger Stone in 1979. Stone had cut his teeth in the Nixon campaign of ‘72 where he posed as a student socialist who donated to an opponent and then made the contribution public. The fake scandal help scuttle anti-war congressman Pete McCloskey’s presidential bid and ensured that Nixon was around to give America three more years of a disastrous war and Watergate.</i></p>
<p><i>Brilliant and perpetually aggressive, ‘</i><b><i>Attack, attack, attack!</i></b><i>’ is his motto. Stone teamed up with Trump to create a xxx, a presidential bid in 1987. And the two have been political partners ever since. Like Cohn, Stone is a risk taker. He and Trump got caught breaking campaign rules as they fought the development of Indian casinos. And State officials levied a hefty fine. Stone counsels clients to, ‘</i><b><i>Admit nothing, deny everything, launch counterattacks!</i></b><i>’</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2030-Trumps-Mobbed-up-Mentor-Roy-Cohn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23267 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2030-Trumps-Mobbed-up-Mentor-Roy-Cohn.jpg" alt="" width="745" height="768" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2030-Trumps-Mobbed-up-Mentor-Roy-Cohn.jpg 745w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2030-Trumps-Mobbed-up-Mentor-Roy-Cohn-600x619.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 745px) 100vw, 745px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Article, “<b><i>Trump’s Mobbed Up, McCarthyite Mentor Roy Cohn</i></b>”. <b>Link:</b>  <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/23/trump-s-mobbed-up-mccarthyite-mentor.html">http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/23/trump-s-mobbed-up-mccarthyite-mentor.html</a></span></p>
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<p>Hmm, sounds familiar.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>He once told a reporter that it was his practice to always get even. When somebody screws you he added, ‘</i><b><i>When someone screws you, screw them back, but a lot harder</i></b><i>’. Trump’s version of the Stone credo, as he told me, is to hit back ten times harder whenever he feels attacked.</i></p>
<p><i>Like McCarthy and Cohn and Stone, Trump loves to gossip and trade in information. He to, cultivates an air of menace to keep his opponents off guard, and he hates to apologize or back down. And like Cohn, he insists that the kind of talk his critics consider offensive is really just the truth expressed without the social amenities. This is an ingenuous tactic for someone who wants to be free to say almost anything, even if it’s insulting, and get away with it.</i></p>
<p><i>Much of what Trump says and does come straight out of the Cohn, Stone playbook, concluding his eagerness to make people uncomfortable and confused. As a campaign consultant Stone advises candidates to open multiple battlefronts. And as a source for reporters he often mystifies anyone who seeks to understand what he’s up to.</i></p>
<p><i>For his part, Trump is a man prone to outrageous statements that defy fact checking. And our fascination with them stems, at least in part, from the delightful challenge of trying to figure out when he’s serious and when he’s putting us on.</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds like Trump did learn a lot from Cohn.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2029-Roy-Cohn-with-US-flag-1986-the-year-of-his-death.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23266 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2029-Roy-Cohn-with-US-flag-1986-the-year-of-his-death.jpg" alt="" width="944" height="938" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2029-Roy-Cohn-with-US-flag-1986-the-year-of-his-death.jpg 944w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2029-Roy-Cohn-with-US-flag-1986-the-year-of-his-death-600x596.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2029-Roy-Cohn-with-US-flag-1986-the-year-of-his-death-768x763.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 944px) 100vw, 944px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Roy Cohn, 1986 (the year of his death).</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> And again, it’s the fascination with him, and what people like about him, is really just kind of it, an, it’s an internalized Jewishness in his character.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s kind of expressing this big brash, unapologetic Israeli sensibility.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Another suspicious zionist connection that he has that we haven’t talked about yet is, Bill Diamond, William J Diamond. Are you familiar with him?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, I’ve heard of Diamond. Wasn’t he part of JP Morgan at one point, or IMF, or something once? I’ve heard that Diamond name before.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23263 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg" alt="" width="623" height="824" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg 623w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper-600x794.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 623px) 100vw, 623px" /></a> <a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2047-icareviews-rainer’s-article-“Trump-Diamond-Sater-Maxwell-the-Mossad-and-the-Florida-Overloards”-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23320 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2047-icareviews-rainer’s-article-“Trump-Diamond-Sater-Maxwell-the-Mossad-and-the-Florida-Overloards”-1.jpg" alt="" width="575" height="605" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] icareviews/rainer’s article, “<b><i>Trump, Diamond, Sater, Maxwell, the Mossad and the Florida Overloards</i></b>”. <b>Link</b>: https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/03/18/trump-diamond-sater-maxwell-the-mossad-and-the-florida-overlords/</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">OK, the Diamond that I’m talking about, Bill Diamond was was a Giuliani guy, OK. He was the Commissioner of Administrative Services under Rudy Giuliani from ‘94 to 2001. And he was another guy who, a few years ago, was was putting himself behind a possible Trump run in 2011, which is the same year that Stuart Rahr had this web site put up, “<i>Should Trump Run?</i>”, at the same time this guy Bill Diamond, who is a big Zionist operator. He operates out of Palm Beach, now. He was a New York guy, he’s operating at Palm Beach.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2048-Rudy-Giuliani-and-Bill-Diamond-outside-Palm-Beach-Town-Hall.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23281 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2048-Rudy-Giuliani-and-Bill-Diamond-outside-Palm-Beach-Town-Hall.jpg" alt="" width="701" height="627" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2048-Rudy-Giuliani-and-Bill-Diamond-outside-Palm-Beach-Town-Hall.jpg 701w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2048-Rudy-Giuliani-and-Bill-Diamond-outside-Palm-Beach-Town-Hall-600x537.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 701px) 100vw, 701px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Rudy Giulian</b>i and <b>Bill Diamond</b> outside Palm Beach Town Hall.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he had some position in local government down there. But he’s the guy who was pushing for Giuliani’s notorious bunker in the years leading up to 9/11. Jerome Hauer was allegedly the mastermind behind that. Hauer has denied it. Hauer was the manager of Emergency Services in New York. But they had this costly, extravagant, bulletproof, catastrophe proof headquarters for Emergency Services installed on the 23rd floor of Tower 7 of the <strong>World Trade Center</strong> complex.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2052-WTC-Building-7-with-emergency-command-center-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23282 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2052-WTC-Building-7-with-emergency-command-center-.jpg" alt="" width="610" height="767" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2052-WTC-Building-7-with-emergency-command-center-.jpg 610w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2052-WTC-Building-7-with-emergency-command-center--600x754.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 610px) 100vw, 610px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>WTC Building 7</b> was the dark flat-topped 47-story skyscraper immediately north of the World Trade Center super-block, across Vesey Street. Its designation as 7 World Trade Center is somewhat misleading: whereas WTC 1 through 6 surrounded the WTC plaza and were completed in the 1970s, Building 7 was 300 feet from the plaza and its construction did not begun until 1985. It was of an entirely different architectural style than the other six buildings. It was completely destroyed late in the afternoon on September 11th.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Building 7 was privately owned from the beginning, in contrast to the other six buildings, which were publicly owned until the summer of 2001. Building 7 was formerly the headquarters of the junk-bond firm Drexel Burnham Lambert, which contributed to the savings and loans collapse and $500 billion bailout of the latter 1980s.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Emergency Command Center</b></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The 23rd floor of Building 7 had received 15 million dollars&#8217; worth of renovations to create an emergency command center for then-Mayor Rudolf Giuliani. The features of the command center include:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">* Bullet and bomb-resistant windows</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">* An independent, secure air and water supply</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">* The ability to withstand winds of 200 mph</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">These renovations were applied only to the 23rd floor. The command-center bunker was the the subject of much ridicule when it was created.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/wtc7.html#ref2">http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/wtc7.html#ref2</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span">Was WTC 7 used as the &#8220;<em>control center</em>&#8221; to oversee the “<i>controlled demolition</i>” of buildings WTC 1 and 2, and therefore, needed to be destroyed in turn, to remove all the evidence? — </span></b>KATANA.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Diamond, this man who’s now a Trump backer, and who is a crony of Rudy Giuliani’s. He was next up in lobbying for that. So again, there are not only these Zionist connections, but Zionist 9/11 connections to Trump.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2053-The-World-Trade-Center-complex-with-WTC-7-pointed-out.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23283 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2053-The-World-Trade-Center-complex-with-WTC-7-pointed-out.jpg" alt="" width="673" height="968" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2053-The-World-Trade-Center-complex-with-WTC-7-pointed-out.jpg 673w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2053-The-World-Trade-Center-complex-with-WTC-7-pointed-out-600x863.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 673px) 100vw, 673px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] The <b>World Trade Center</b> complex before it was destroyed by <b>Organized jewry</b> as part of their plan to launch their “<b><i>War of Terro</i></b>r” on the world.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Was <b>WTC 7</b> used as the &#8220;<em>control center</em>&#8221; to oversee the “<i>controlled demolition</i>” of buildings <b>WTC 1</b> and <b>2</b>, and therefore, needed to be destroyed in turn, to remove all the evidence? — KATANA.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Absolutely! Did you see that article, I think, “<a href="http://thezog.info/"><strong><i>The Zog</i></strong></a>” I think is a commenter on your Ayran Skynet website? You recognize, “<i>The Zog</i>”?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I’m familiar with him.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> OK. He put together, “<i><a href="http://thezog.info/who-controls-donald-trump/"><strong>Who controls Donald Trump</strong></a>?</i>”. He put a small list together [all Ashkenazi Jews unless indicated] , <strong>Michael Cohen</strong>, <strong>Gil Dezer,</strong><strong>Michael Dezer</strong>, <strong>Alan Fishman</strong>, <strong>Alan Garten</strong>, <strong>Michael Glassner</strong>, <strong>Jason Greenblatt</strong>, <strong>Carl Icahn</strong>. That’s somebody involved with 9/11 to, right? <strong>Charles Kushner</strong>, <strong>Jared Kushner</strong>, <strong>Yael Kushner</strong> [née <strong>Ivanka Trump</strong> — Orthodox Jewish convert] , <strong>Richard LeFrak</strong>, <strong>Corey Lewandowski</strong>, some question whether or not he’s jewish or not. <strong>Stephen Miller</strong>, <strong>Steven Mnuchin</strong>, <strong>Sam Nunberg</strong>, <strong>Stewart Rahr</strong>, you mentioned. <strong>George Ross</strong>, <strong>Phil Ruffin</strong>, <strong>Felix Sater</strong>, you mentioned. <strong>Allen Weisselberg</strong>, <strong>Steve Wynn</strong>, casino magnate, mafia. <strong>Lara Yunaska</strong>, and that’s it!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image &#8211; click to enlarge] Who Controls Donald Trump? [Ver 2]</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. Of those names that you mention, the most interesting, that I found in connection with Trump with 9/11 is <strong>Michael Glassner</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2056-Article-“From-AIPAC-to-Trump-Michael-Glassners-Journey”.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23284 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2056-Article-“From-AIPAC-to-Trump-Michael-Glassners-Journey”.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="791" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2056-Article-“From-AIPAC-to-Trump-Michael-Glassners-Journey”.jpg 640w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2056-Article-“From-AIPAC-to-Trump-Michael-Glassners-Journey”-600x742.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Article, “<b><i>From AIPAC to Trump: Michael Glassner&#8217;s Journey</i></b>”. Link: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/from_aipac_to_trump_michael_glassners_journey">http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/from_aipac_to_trump_michael_glassners_journey</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Michael Glassner is Trump’s National Campaign Director, and interestingly, he was also working for the New York and New Jersey Port Authority, in the years leading up to 9/11. And he was involved specifically in the privatisation of the World Trade Center complex, which placed it in the hands of <strong>Larry Silverstein</strong> and <strong>Frank Lowry</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23285 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg" alt="" width="729" height="378" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg 729w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy-600x311.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 729px) 100vw, 729px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Larry Silverstein, super-Zionist UJA board member and Frank Lowy, ex-Haganah terrorist, both multi-billionaires with very close ties to the state of Israel, acquired the lease for the WTC in late July of 2001, hardly 6 weeks before the attack. <b>Link</b>: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.lostscribemedia.com/news/911-israels-masterpiece/">http://www.lostscribemedia.com/news/911-israels-masterpiece/</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Lucky Larry!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. So there’s a connection there. And Michael Glassner was a Southwest Regional Director for AIPAC, previously. And he was also involved in the campaigns of <strong>Bob Dole</strong> and <strong>Sarah Palin</strong> and, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I see that. He was a political aid for Sarah Palin. And, by the way, the Council for National Policy, who vetted Sarah Palin to be the Vice President for John McCain where a lot of these people meet up two or three times a year with the Council for National Policy. And that’s a lot of what takes place behind the scenes on who’s going to be vetted and what not.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Corey Lewandowski, left, Dan Scavino, center, and Michael Glassner are among the highest-paid senior staffers on Donald Trump’s campaign.</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Glassner has given a few interviews, he’s given a couple of interviews, but he remains a fairly enigmatic character. He’s possible more disturbing than Rahr, just because he, &#8230; Rahr puts himself out there. Rahr’s somewhat clownish. Glassner is a serious, more formidable personality and he’s, more reserved. And we don’t know as much about him. In one of these interviews he gave, he did mention, or it did come out in this profile of him, that he still keeps in touch with his former superior at the Port Authority, whose name was <strong>Ronald Shiftan</strong>. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Ronald H. Shiftan, then acting executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so he maintains his ties with these people who were involved with the privatization of the [World] Trade Center and basically placed it in Israel’s hands. And he’s apparently tight with this guy Shiftan.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Shiftan is interesting because his family has long standing ties to the <strong>Eisenbergs</strong>. <strong>Lou Eisenberg</strong> is a name that may be familiar to some of you listeners who’ve looked into the Zionist connections to 9/11.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> OK, and recently <strong>Sheldon Adelson</strong> pretty much endorsed Trump, as well. Saying,</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Jewish casino operator Sheldon Adelson.</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. One of his papers, his Israeli papers endorsed Trump.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, that was the recent one, I think, over the one that he purchased recently over in Las Vegas, right? Where he’s pretty much telling people:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>You’re going to be fired unless you play ball and pretty much disseminate information the way that I tell you to</i>”.</p></blockquote>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, so, to sum up on Trump, I mean, I understand the initial enthusiasm. I can understand some of the joy that people show in this kind of implicit White Nationalism that he represents. But, I mean, it’s so obviously fake and insincere that, I mean, all of these, &#8230; Even if you didn’t know about all these suspicious connections and even if you were only following the race at a kind of a superficial surface level. Even the statements he makes, and the inconsistency of his positions, totally counterbalances and basically negates any of his good points.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Trump having a bad hair day.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Basically all he’s done is dog whistling. He’s made a few throwaway politically incorrect statements that have gotten all these people, you know, excited. It’s just a sign of desperation to me that people will allow themselves to be so enthralled by such pittances. He’s just throwing scraps to people and they are lapping it up.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, the theory that I have always, not always, but, what I have been repeating lately, is that the right wing is the sucker punch, the uppercut that you’re not expecting. You know, you’re going to expect that left hook, coming from the left, you know, side of things, because they’re obviously anti-White and promote cultural Marxism and degeneracy, openly. Whereas, the GOP, they try to keep their degeneracy in secret with their pedophilia and male escorts, and all the other things that they are tied into. But a lot of the major wars that have taken place, have taken place under the right wing, where they’ll soften it up. Pretty much say the things that the voters want to hear, you know, the rhetoric, and then there’s that sucker punch when you least expect it. It’s like a steam release valve for them.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, well <strong>George W Bush</strong>, when he was running in 2000, he was really running as more of a foreign policy moderate. If you go back and look at his debates with <strong>Al Gore</strong>, he was saying things like:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Well I don’t see why we ought to be telling the rest of the world how to run their affairs</i>” and, you know, “<i>I don’t see that we ought to be in the business of nation building</i>”.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he was saying these pretty reasonable sounding things about foreign policy. And then it’s a total flip flop. And a lot of people defend Trump as some kind of foreign policy realist, but he has no consistency there whatsoever. In 2011 he endorsed the toppling of <strong>Gaddafi</strong>. Now he pretends to be opposed to it. He was on the record in 2003 voicing some misgivings about the Iraq adventure, but he also made, kind of ambiguous statement on the Howard Stern Show, I think in 2002, that he might have thought it was a good idea.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as late as 2015, he, I think it was at a CPAC conference. He was being interviewed by Sean Hannity. And I think <strong>Sean Hannity</strong> was asking him about the proper response to ISIS. And Trump even said, in this interview, that we, “<i>Might need some boots on the ground</i>”. And yet you have all these people, you know, Ricky Vaughn, I like Ricky Vaughn, but I mean, ever since the Trump thing, I don’t even want to look at the account any more. It’s just twenty four seventh’s GOP politics and, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I stop following, because, &#8230;</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b> I<span style="color: #0000ff;">t is just Trump, all Trump. I cannot get excited about endless, like, “<i>Ted Cruz sucks!</i>” Tweets.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> He gets thousands of retweets for stuff that is low information, just the hype, kind of like the rhetoric that Trump puts out. He’s kind of like a repeater for Trump and spokesperson for him.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2064-An-August-2015-tweet-by-Ricky-Vaughin.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23290 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2064-An-August-2015-tweet-by-Ricky-Vaughin.jpg" alt="" width="516" height="577" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] An August 2015 tweet by Ricky Vaughin</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> And, you know, Ricky Vaughn, he can be a winning guy when he wants to. I mean, I like the guy, basically, but I mean I can’t do all his Trump stuff.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I agree.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ricky Vaughn, I mean Ricky Vaughn tweeted that we need Trump to fix our foreign policy. I mean, he actually tweeted it. And here is Trump saying he might need, saying as recently as last year, that we might need some boots on the ground. More of these wars, you know, send more of our boys over there to die. That might fix things.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Exactly, and with his speech that he did, related to military policies, foreign policies, not too long ago, I think it was last week. The Alt Right is grabbing the one ounce of words that he said, as far as being, “<i>America First</i>”. Whereas the rest of the speech was quite the opposite with [laughing] some, &#8230;</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I didn’t pay attention to that speech. I really feel like I’ve said, all I need to say about Trump in my posts. I’m kind of burnt out.t information is all out there. There’s enough grime on Trump that anybody who who is interested in the truth, it’s there for them to see.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> It sure is.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> I just can’t keep hitting him them over the head with this stuff, if they’re impervious to it.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I did the same thing for the Ron Paul. Different campaign in 2008 and 2012 and people were calling me a hater, and cointelpro, and all these different ad hominems, because I wasn’t supporting their guy, while I was trying to share all the different links the guy has, and all his information, all the hype is all rhetoric, it’s a steam release valve. And it’s kind of like a repeat of this election cycle. People latch on to their cult of personality figures and they don’t want to hear anything else. They just want to have their blinders on and follow the line for their glorious leader.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, I will say this for <strong>Ron Paul</strong>. I was still Ron Paul guy in 2012, as late as that. And I, you know, I’m not now. But compared to Trump, Ron Paul is the real deal in that I think Ron Paul, even though I don’t really subscribe to his theories. I mean compared to Trump he was comparatively a good man.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> An angel!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think. Ron Paul is genuinely interested in world peace. I don’t think he knows how to go about it. And he has something of a half truther when it comes to some of the terrorism.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Ron Paul and his “<i>blowback</i>” mantra.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He sticks to the “<i>blowback</i>”. He’ll be talking, “<i>blowback</i>” to the day he dies. On his deathbed he’ll be talking about, you know:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Osama bin Laden wouldn’t have attacked us, you know, if we had a peaceful foreign policy</i>”.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He writes one or two columns every week, it’s either the “<i>blowback column</i>” or the we need, “<i>sound currency</i>”. I used to read that guy’s columns, I don’t anymore, it’s boring.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yes. Other than that, we’ve got only a couple more minutes. What would you like to close with? And I would like everybody to visit your website. So I’m going to share these links on the show tonight. Wat would you like to share with the rest of the world tonight?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, you might follow my blogmates on twitter. There’s <strong>Hipster Racist</strong> @hipsterracist. And then there’s, <strong>Don Logan</strong>. @DonLoganFOS, is his Twitter handle. And then I’m on there at <strong>icareviews</strong>. And then <a href="https://icareviews.wordpress.com/">icareviews.wordpress.com</a>, <a href="https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/">aryanskynet.wordpress.com</a>.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> All right everybody this is the end.d we will see you next week. Thank you very much Rainer for joining me.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s been a pleasure.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> All right. Have a good night.</p>
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