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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>John Friend</strong> talks with <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong> on a proposed law by ZOG Canada that would make &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; denial a criminal offence. Making it a crime to expose a diabolical lie.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The only reason such a law is being pushed, nearly 80 years after WWII is that Orgjew fears their hoax of the 20th century – the “<em>Holocaust</em>” of six million jews being mass murdered – will be exposed to more and more thinking people, which in turn will cause exposure to their actual White genocide agenda now in progress.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Orgjew’s strategy is to make any form of White resistance to Orgjew’s genocide agenda of Whites as being genocidal to jews, using the “<em>Holocaust</em>” hoax as “<em>proof</em>”. As in the Polish saying, &#8220;<em>The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you</em>!&#8221;<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Published on May 31, 2022</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">The Realist Report – Monika Schaefer: Canadian “Holocaust Denial” Bills</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">May 31, 2022 Realist Report</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined once again by Monika Schaefer, a German-Canadian activist and revisionist. Monika is back to discuss some recent news items, including a controversial bill introduced in Canada that would criminalize “Holocaust” denial, and to give some updates on her brother Alfred. Alfred is currently imprisoned in Germany due to his publicly expressed views</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> All right folks. Welcome back to another edition of The Realist Report. This is your host John Friend. Today is Tuesday, May 31st, 20022.</p>
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<p>Of course, my website is therealistreport.com where you will find an extensive archive of these podcasts. You will also find all of my blog posts and articles, a contact page, my Twitter feed, which is embedded in the right-hand sidebar of the website, and many other useful and important links.</p>
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<p>For those who are interested in subscribing to the audio feed for all of the podcasts appearing on therealistreport.com. I am a regular reporter for American Free Press – America’s last real newspaper. And I also contribute to the Barnes Review, the bi-monthly revisionist history magazine. Please do subscribe to these fine print publications if you do not already. Check out Americanfreepress.net and Barnesreview.org for all the details.</p>
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<p>All right, with that said, let me introduce our special guest. Monika Shaefer is joining us once again. Monika is a German-Canadian activist and revisionist and her website is freespeechmonika.com. All right. Monika Schaefer. Welcome back to the program. How are you today? It’s great to have you.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I’m doing very well thanks John! I’m just so looking forward to this interview and talking with you again. Yeah thanks.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, you’ve been a guest a number of times on the program. And you’re one of my favorite people to talk to. And, of course, there’s no shortage of topics to cover. And I want to kind of jump right into it. Your website is freespeechmonika.com and I will, of course, have a link to your website when I post this podcast program. I’ve also got your website linked on the right-hand sidebar of my website under the recommended sites. So people can find it that way as well, or just go to freespeechmonika.com.</p>
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<p>And I know you’re also involved in the Truth and Justice for Germans Society which is truthandjusticeforGermans.com. And I recently read an article that just came out just a couple days ago. And it was a sort of like a Q&amp;A written conversation that you had with NS-Kampf ruf. Am I pronouncing that correctly?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes it was also in the New Order this is NS, National Socialism. But it’s a fellow in the United States, who has also been persecuted and jailed for his views on, you know, National Socialist Germany. And he did this interview with me back in during the winter. This came out in the January and the February issue. And I had it on my own website. But I just recently put it on to the Truth and Justice for Germans website as well.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Okay. Very good. Yeah, it’s great. Yeah. I know it’s great. It kind of gives your background and your sort of wake up to Revisionism. And I want to remind everybody we actually did a what it turned out to be a really good Q&amp;A as well. Sort of similar to this. We covered a few different topics but we actually published it in the Barnes Review, as sort of like a written Q&amp;A interview with Monika Schaefer, persecuted Canadian thinker. And we talked about your situation in Germany, and your views on the “<em>Holocaust</em>”.</p>
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<p>And kind of got into some of the information relating to Alfred, your brother, which we’ll talk about as we wrap up this podcast.</p>
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<p>But I just wanted to remind everybody that was in the November, December 2020 issue of the Barnes Review. And, of course, I would highly recommend everybody to go out and subscribe to the Barnes Review. It’s really the last like Revisionist print publication. One of the top ones in America. I know this other one that you mentioned, the New Order. Do they actually print physical, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And they get translated into many languages as well, online. Now their website got taken down recently, but the fellow who is doing this he is working hard at getting a few like a series of websites back up. It’s incredible actually. It’s Gerhard Lauck. And you may have heard that name, or perhaps, yes?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> He’s an incredibly hard worker. And he’s been out this for decades really. I mean, he was born into activism, I think! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Very good. Well, that’s cool. I’m glad to hear that. There’s not enough printed material anymore. It’s always a challenge to do that. There’s costs involved with it. But I think it is important. I mean, as you said, we can get censored so easily online.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, and his publication it’s like four pages each time. And it’s just pages that are stapled together. So it’s not like the Barnes Review magazine, which I will do a shout out, to add to what you just said, to highly recommend that people subscribe to. It really is excellent that publication. And I was just so honored that you did that interview with me! Thanks, John! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, of course, no problem. Yeah, I think it turned out really good. Very sort of unique and the Barnes Review is always covering a lot of very unique aspects of history. So again everybody check it out. It’s Barnes Review.org, or you could go to Barnes Review dot com it basically takes you to the same place. And you can check out some of the articles, some of the interviews. And, of course, subscribe to the print publication.</p>
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<p>There’s also a huge list of books for sale including pretty much all of the major “<em>Holocaust</em>” revisionist books. So check it out!</p>
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<p>Anyways, Monika I want to talk first about this recently introduced. Well, I guess it was back in February, there was a government budget that was introduced in Canada. Basically criminalizing “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, I don’t want to interrupt you.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> But, oh no, just real briefly. Just some quick background. It was a basically from my understanding – you can correct me if I’m wrong – it was a new Criminal Code offense for denying the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. And this was inserted into a recently proposed Budget Bill.</p>
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<p>And then there was also from what I understand a near identical piece of legislation that was proposed in the House of Commons by a Conservative MP named Kevin Waugh, W-A-U-G-H. I’m not sure if I’m pronouncing that correctly.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I think you are.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> It was basically introduced as an actual piece of legislation. And then also it was introduced as part of the Criminal Code in the Budget Bill. And it, from what I understand, both of the legislation and the actual budget are still in the process of being ratified. So it hasn’t officially been adopted from what I understand.</p>
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<p>But anyways, why don’t you comment on that. What do you know, about the situation? Carolyn Yeager wrote a really good article on May first, that I’ll have linked when I post this podcast, kind of outlining everything and discussing it. And, of course, talking about the jewish organizations that were central in promoting this legislation. So go ahead.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I’m going to read that article. I haven’t read that article yet. But here’s what I know. It seems to be that the Criminal Code amendment, &#8230; See the Criminal Code of Canada already has this Hate Speech law in it, Section 319 of the Criminal Code of Canada. And they want to add this other part, to that specifically makes “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial a criminal offense.</p>
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<p>Here’s the thing John, why did they embed this in the Budget Bill? Now, what does legislating how history went down. First of all that shouldn’t be legislated in the at all! I mean, isn’t it a ridiculous thing to legislate our history? Isn’t that something that historians should be dealing with, not the law?</p>
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<p>But even if it was something that was appropriate for the lawmakers, what are they doing putting it into the Budget Bill? It kind of reminds me of I used to hear a lot about your Omnibus Bills in the States, where they would put, you know, maybe 300 different things within an Omnibus Bill, so that half the people, the representatives that are voting yay, or nay, they don’t even know what’s in it! They just go along with what they’re supposed to do. Like the party Whip tells them how to vote.</p>
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<p>So a Budget Bill, that’s an annual thing that happens every year. And the NDP in Canada that’s the New Democratic Party. There are, I’ve already said, they’re supporting the Liberal Party which has a minority. So they basically are constituting the government. And it’s already must have gone through the third reading, because it’s in front of the Senate right now.</p>
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<p>I read an article, just a few days ago, what the B’nai Brith Canada, they are making recommendations of course, you know. That’s how it works. These jewish organizations, and B’nai Brith is 100% jewish organization, they make recommendations to the Senate on this new “<em>Holocaust</em>” Denial Bill.</p>
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<p>So some of the things they’re saying is, well they want this word “<em>distortion</em>” in it, rather than “<em>downplaying</em>”. So anybody who distorts the so-called facts about the so-called “<em>Holocaust</em>”, that instead of this word, “<em>downplaying</em>”. I’m not sure what their reasoning on that is. But here’s the big one that we need to take note of they specifically say that they want to remove the ability for anyone to use “<em>defense of truth</em>” against the charges.</p>
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<p>So if you’ve been charged with this “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial Criminal Code offense, then you cannot say in my defense “<em>I have truth</em>” in my defense. You cannot use that since, quote:</p>
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<p>This is what they’re saying. I mean, isn’t that the mantra? Yeah go ahead.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well isn’t that a common tactic in some of these “<em>Holocaust</em>” trials where the judge will take, I believe they refer to it as “<em>judicial notice</em>”?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Where they basically affirm the standard “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative. And they basically say it’s common knowledge. And it’s not really up for dispute, or questioning, therefore you can’t even present your perspective. Yeah, it’s really, talk about like Orwellian, tyrannical like in your face!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> They brought up Ernest Zundel’s case, B’nai Brith did in their recommendations to the Senate. So they were saying, because Ernst Zundel, the retrial in his case, the court there took judicial notice that the “<em>Holocaust</em>” existed, and allowing a defense of truth would be a step backwards. This is what they say. This would be a step backwards.</p>
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<p>Yeah, they want this, because otherwise this “<em>defense of truth</em>” can be used to repeatedly litigate whether the “<em>Holocaust</em>” happened. You see, they really don’t like it when the “<em>Holocaust</em>” goes on trial, because they don’t have any facts on their side.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> And they get exposed big time. Yeah, they don’t want any sort of discussion, or honest debate, or questioning, or just open dialogue on this subject.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And the history of this judicial notice goes right back to the Nuremberg Trials in which Articles 19 and, 201, so people can look this up. We don’t just make this stuff up.</p>
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<p>Those two articles in the Nuremberg Trials basically – just to paraphrase it because I don’t have them in front of me. But they said that evidence is not required, because it is something that is common knowledge. And something that is common knowledge does not require evidence. So if it is self-evident, it does not require evidence.</p>
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<p>So they basically just declared the “<em>Holocaust</em>” happened. And there was not going to be any room for defense, or facts about what actually happened, or didn’t. Well, in particular, any facts that were telling the truth about what didn’t happen.</p>
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<p>You see here they allege something happened. And then they put the onus on the people who are saying it didn’t happen, to prove it didn’t happen, which I really think that the onus is on the wrong people here. Like in all the cases since then, where they took judicial notice thereof.</p>
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<p>And the Ernst Zundel trials in the 1980s, in Toronto, that was a big exception, where evidence and facts actually did make it into the court. And it was historical! It was absolutely phenomenal! And if I had taken the time and the care at that time – I was in my 20s – to read the fine print of the newspaper articles that reported on this, I would have learned a lot. Because the newspaper articles if you read the fine print, they actually did report a lot of what was said.</p>
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<p>However, the headlines were still even portraying Ernst Zundel as kind of a madman, a bad man, maybe a crazy man. All those things, right. And also the radio. I mean, day after day. I remember my father liked to listen to the CBC radio news. And so it was kind of background noise. Actually, it wasn’t. I was out gone from the home. But I guess I listened to this stuff. It was background noise for me. I didn’t really pay too much attention to it. But all I knew was:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Sounds like this guy is kind of a nut case!”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s how they portrayed him. However, if you had read the fine print <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>, you would have learned a lot! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:37]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. And realize:</p>
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<h3>“Oh, this guy actually makes a lot of sense!”</h3>
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<p>And is presenting a very legitimate and rational perspective. And he’s not at all this evil monster, or this irrational, jew hater, or something like that. I mean, he was a very knowledgeable, bright, funny, compassionate, very affable man. I mean, that’s how Ernst Zundel was. And that’s the way he came across if you just sat down and listened to him.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> All of the above is true! It’s so true! I mean, I’ve listened to quite a few of his interviews, and I’m telling you cannot help but like the man. And he is highly intelligent. And yeah, I mean, he’s a pacifist. He’s a self-proclaimed pacifist.</p>
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<p>He came to Canada, I think he was 19, or 20 years old. He was a war baby he was born in 1939. So his childhood was kind of shaped by war-torn Germany. And then he wanted to go to a country where there was no draft, because of his pacifism, and this kind of thing.</p>
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<p>And then it was sometime after he arrived in Canada that he started to learn about the truth about Germany. And he wanted to restore the honor of Germany and Germans. Like he wanted to restore the honor, because really Germany and Germans have been vilified and demonized, not just during and after World War II, but decades before that. And ever since! Don’t you think John? I think that the vilification of the Germans hasn’t really abated.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> No, you’re absolutely right! And I think it’s actually only expanded to incorporate the entire Western world.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Actually, yeah, you’re right. It’s expanded to incorporate all White people!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> All White people, exactly.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> All White people.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well Ernest Zundel’s struggles to restore Germany’s honor are definitely carried on by people like you, and the Truth and Justice for Germans website, that society. I think that’s some very, very, very important work.</p>
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<p>And really anybody talking openly and honestly about World War II, about the alleged jewish “<em>Holocaust</em>”, and engaging in historical revisionism sort of carries on this legacy, and I think it’s one of the most important endeavors. Certainly from a scholarly, or historical perspective.</p>
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<p>Because this is one of the most weaponized narratives of history, that is constantly rammed down our throat! It almost seems like every month there’s some sort of like “<em>Holocaust</em>” Remembrance Day, whether it’s in America, or Israel, or any country around the world. There’s these “<em>Holocaust</em>” Museums everywhere! All across the world!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> They’re certainly ramping it up, aren’t they?</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, it’s insane! One thing I was curious, do you think that this is gonna backfire? I mean, won’t it sort of wake more people up to the concept of “<em>Holocaust</em>” revisionism, and get people to start to question, why can’t we openly discuss this one event in history? What is so special about this?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. I think you’re right. Although they just carry on, they carry on. However, I think what has woken people up, or caused people to maybe look twice at all of these things, more than anything else, is this last couple of years of this Covid scam! And all the things they’ve been doing to us with that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I know a lot of people have gone along with it. But they do skew the numbers on that, too. I mean, I know we see masked people. And so a lot of people have fallen for it. And they’re very, very afraid of that very, very bad, bad, bad, virus! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> And now it’s going to be the Monkeypox!</p>
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<p>But so many people have actually woken up. That is a really good thing. And so then it’s really important, it’s up to us to connect the dots for people that when we do talk about World War II history, the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, all these new laws and, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Okay Monika. I’m sorry about that. I’m not sure what happened.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, it just suddenly lost.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. But look we could just pick up right where we left off. You were saying something about how these new laws were gonna start sort of waking people up, I believe is where you’re going.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, basically connecting the dots with what they’re doing right now with the Covid scam, what they’ve been doing in the last two two and a half years, with all of that. So many people know there’s something not quite right with that. And so this is the time when we really need to connect all these dots for people. That these things are not separate from each other. They’re not in little boxes, and categories, separate from each other. I think that is really important right now.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. I know. I tend to agree with you. And that’s also what some Civil Liberties groups in Canada are saying. I’m looking at an article here from the National Post, which I believe is one of the top newspapers in Canada, correct?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Like one of the more mainstream.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, it’s definitely mainstream.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> This is an article from May 19th. So just a couple weeks ago. And the title is “<em>Government Bill on “<em>Holocaust</em>” Denial Ineffective and Likely Unconstitutional</em>”. Civil Liberties group. So the Civil Liberties group is basically saying that this is not even going to work. And it’s probably illegal! Let me just read a couple excerpts here from this article:</p>
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<h3>“Civil Liberties groups say a proposed law that would make “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial a criminal offense is likely unconstitutional and unlikely to be effective in dealing with anti-semitism. The Liberals have included a proposed change to the criminal law in their budget that would make, quote ‘condoning, denying, or downplaying, the “<em>Holocaust</em>” a criminal offense’. Cara Zwibble, director of the Fundamental Freedoms Program at the Civil Liberties Association said the Bill is more about politics, than actually addressing anti-semitism. Quote ‘we are opposed to this. But that’s not, because we don’t think “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial is egregious, and terrible. And it’s not, because we don’t think it’s harmful. It’s because we don’t think that the criminal law is the way to approach it.’ she said ‘We’re talking about putting people in prison for things that they said.’”</h3>
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<p>Yeah, it’s so crazy! Like we have to say that out loud. Like that’s literally what they’re saying. Like, we’re gonna throw you in jail for something that you said!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s right. I did see that article. And I think that that Civil Liberties group is a controlled opposition group. Well, you can see that just from what they say that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh. It’s not that we don’t think that “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial is egregious.”</span></h3>
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<p>And basically terrible and evil. But that we should just have freedom of speech. So yeah. What do you think? I think it’s controlled opposition. However it’s hopeful that they said this law wouldn’t even work. But I don’t know what to make of that. It could be just, &#8230; They kind of create the frame for what we’re allowed to talk about:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“But oh, “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial is still really bad!”</span></h3>
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<p>And so pretending that we have true opposition to it. I don’t know. What do you think about that?</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> It’s interesting. I think you’re probably right. It probably is some sort of limited hangout, controlled opposition type group. Just like the ACLU <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[American Civil Liberties Union]</strong></span> is in America.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> And if they were genuine defenders of Civil Liberties and free speech, they would be suing the government to prevent this Bill from even being passed, because it’s a total violation of freedom of speech. Which I believe is actually enshrined in the Canadian Charter, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. I mean, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Maybe not to the extent it is in the First Amendment.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It’s not like what you have in the States. And actually, I can’t really address that right now. I’m not fresh! I’m not sure exactly what’s in there. But it’s not like what you guys have. Like we always look to the Americans for any remnants of hope for maintaining that freedom of speech, even! You guys don’t really have it either, because they find other ways to go after you, right?</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Oh, absolutely! Well, one of the big concerns that this lady has with the Civil Liberties group is that she actually cites in this article the case of Zundel, that we talked about previously. And she basically wants to prevent a trial like that from taking place, which would give somebody like Zundel, or somebody like you, or I, a platform to make the arguments against the official “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative. And so that’s one of her big concerns.</p>
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<p>She also talks about how there’s already basically laws on the books that criminalize promoting hatred, which is tied into questioning the “<em>Holocaust</em>”.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, that’s Section 319. And I mean, people like Arthur Topham. He was chased, and criminalized, and dragged through the courts for more than a dozen years. And they used that Section 319, this Hate Speech law. So really that would be my answer to what we just talked about a moment ago about do we have free speech in Canada. No! They say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We do. Oh! But hate speech is different!”</span></h3>
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<p>Right. So all these countries and, you know, where lawmakers, where they say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh yeah! We have freedom of speech. But this is different. Like hate speech is different!”</span></h3>
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<p>In Germany, when I was in jail. And I would tell fellow prisoners what I was there for and I said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Yeah, just for words spoken.”</span></h3>
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<p>And they say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, no. That’s not possible. We have total freedom of speech in Germany! It’s in the gungazettes <strong>[sp]</strong>!”</span></h3>
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<p>Which is the foundational law. And then I would tell them but it was about the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. And they’d say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh yeah! That’s different!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, that’s different! Yeah. You can’t question, the “<em>Holocaust</em>”! You can’t criticize, or say mean things about jews. I mean, if we really do have free speech, then we should be able to question, the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. We should be able to question any aspect of history, no matter what it is. No matter whose feelings it hurts. No matter who gets upset by it. We should be able to openly discuss, and talk about, and criticize specific groups of people, whether they’re jews, or blacks, or Whites, or whatever.</p>
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<p>I mean, certainly we can openly criticize and condemn White people!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[26:30]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh. That’s the only people you can openly criticize and condemn these days. That’s the only group of people you can do that to! And like that’s just fine, White people.</p>
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<p>But here in Canada right now it’s getting to the point where you can’t even point out anything about what the native people are doing, factual, or otherwise. It doesn’t matter. That’s like your “<em>Black Lives Matter</em>”. We’ve got the equivalent going on with the native people here. And we had those supposed mass graves found. Not a single bone has been found, or dug out.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> It’s basically another atrocity propaganda hoax.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, it is.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, it is. It absolutely is. I’ve followed it. In fact, I wrote an article for American Free Press. It’s probably been about a year ago. But I remember Lauren Southern did the documentary about it. That was really well done.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> So yeah, people don’t want to talk about it. Because they know that it’s to their advantage to kind of just conceal the fact. Like they didn’t want to talk to Lauren Southern when she tried. And no, no! They don’t want to do that, because she would expose that, gee there might be some problems with these graves that they supposedly “<em>discovered</em>”. And so the native people it’s in their interest to keep it hush-hush. They’re going along with the mainstream agenda that is basically to elevate them into some higher status.</p>
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<p>And it’s to get Whitey off the land here. I mean, the bills that they have passed, Bill C-15, it’s one that basically is out to dispossess us of our lands. I was recently visiting a friend in Powell River, BC, and the natives there are trying hard, or it’s a handful of people are trying hard, to change the name of that city. And I mean, it just goes on and on. It’s basically dispossess Whitey.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> It’s White genocide.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It is.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> I mean, it’s part of the broader, global, White genocide agenda.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It is.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Taking place in every formerly Western country, including Canada, including the United States. Including basically every country in Europe. It’s obvious. It’s on display on a daily basis. And yet it’s never presented in these terms. It’s never pointed out this way.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, and why is it that it’s happening all over the world in White countries, all at the same time? And the same things get reported in the press, like almost word for word for word. Some people sometimes put together these little sound bite collages, where reporters in Australia, reporters in New Zealand, Canada, United States, and UK, everywhere they’re saying virtually using the same words when there’s some new idea, or new event, or new something.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> It’s like they all have the same talking points as if they’re somehow like internationally coordinated through some sort of like jewish secret society.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh yeah!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. And, of course, we’re referring to the Kahilla, which is a word. And it’s something I was sort of familiar with that I come across in doing research over the years. But you actually sent me an interesting article that we’ll talk about here in just a moment. There’s just a couple things I want to mention more in this article from the National Post. And then we can move on and discuss that topic.</p>
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<p>Let me just pick back up here. There’s just a couple of last excerpts that I wanted to read here and get your take on. The article continues. It says:</p>
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<h3>“The new Criminal Code offense was included in the Budget Bill, but a near identical piece of legislation was also moving through the House of Commons, as a private member’s Bill, which was introduced by Conservative MP Kevin Waugh.”</h3>
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<p>Again, I’m not sure if I’m pronouncing that correctly. And I sort of alluded to that previously. It says here:</p>
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<h3>“The Budget Bill is currently working through the House of Commons. It also includes funding for education programs around racism and anti-semitism, as well as 20 million dollars toward a “<em>Holocaust</em>” Museum in Montreal.”</h3>
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<p>And then it quotes the Simon Wiesenthal Center President and CEO, Michael Levitt. And he’s basically advocating in favor of this new Criminal Code, saying that:</p>
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<h3>“Anti-semitism is on the rise. “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial is on the rise.”</h3>
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<p>Which, I don’t know. Is that true? I mean, you live in Canada. Are there people out there like denying the “<em>Holocaust</em>” and condemning jews left and right? Is that going on? It’s like the jewish community, you read the jewish press, you read like the ADL, you follow groups like the ADL. And every single day there’s a report about how anti-semitism is rising in Canada, in Germany, and Brazil, in Argentina, in Australia! Everywhere around the world! It’s like this constantly reinforced meme and persecution!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[31:29]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah! Who does that? Who is it that sets up events that make it look like oh anti-semitism is on the rise? And which high-ranking rabbi was it, maybe you remember, who said that anti-semitism is their best friend! They create these things, like when there’s gravestones that have been painted with swastikas, or whatever.</p>
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<p>It’s always jews who do that, because they need to have this idea, this meme out there, that anti-semitism is on the rise! It’s not like there’s people out in the streets standing on their pulpits saying.:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Yeah. The “<em>Holocaust</em>” didn’t happen!”</span></h3>
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<p>I mean, yeah. I think a lot of people are waking up to the truth about that the jews lie about history. And they’ve been lying about events. And that they’re behind the Covid thing. And I mean, a lot of people are waking up to what the jews are actually doing. But when they call this:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Anti-semitism is on the rise!”</span></h3>
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<p>You know, maybe they’re really scared and worried, because people are starting to wake up to their game. And what they’re really doing.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. It’s like those memes of like the rabbi on the telephone:</p>
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<h3>“The goyim know! Shut it down!”</h3>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> And that’s what it is. It’s the organized jewish community, they simply cannot have anybody knowing and looking into what they’re up to! They can openly do these things, and talk about how they want to fight anti-semitism, and lobby the government for more money for “<em>Holocaust</em>” Museums, for Israel, for jewish organizations.<br />
I mean they run like one big extortion racket. It’s like one big international criminal conspiracy that they openly, &#8230; You follow them and read what they have to say, or hear what they have to say, in their press conferences and stuff, and this is how they operate. Yet, if you notice it, and if you’re opposed to it, or criticize it, then you’re some irrational hater! It’s totally ridiculous!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> You just have to point it out, right, John. You just have to point out what they’re doing in real time. We don’t even have to talk about history, we could talk about what they’re doing in real time, reporting things from their own press. But they see that you are noticing. And then they call you “<em>anti-semitic</em>”. They call you the “<em>hater</em>”.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> And all of their puppet politicians line up and say the same thing and back this stuff up. And pledge their unwavering support for Israel and the jewish community, and how they have to continue to fight anti-semitism and bigotry, and all this other nonsense! They’re all totally controlled, at least almost every single one of them.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And back to that Civil Liberties organization and that article that you were quoting from. That’s why it bothers me when groups like that, just the fact that they’re such controlled opposition. The fact that they had to put that in there:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, it’s not that we don’t think that ‘Holocaust’ denial is egregious.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because really what they’re doing is they are propping up and supporting – by making that statement – they’re supporting this money being spent on these “<em>Holocaust</em>” Museums. Like this huge budget amount that goes towards the “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial prevention, or whatever they want to call it.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong>20 million for a museum in Montreal! Why does Montreal need a “<em>Holocaust</em>” Museum? And if they do, why can’t the jews themselves organize money to fund it?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[34:58]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. And then there’s that Kotler, Irvin Kotler, I think is his name. He’s the minister in charge of whatever it’s called. I don’t know what the ministry is called. But somehow this anti-semitism ministry, or whatever!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> He’s like the anti-semite, or anti-semitism envoy. Like the US government has a position it’s a ambassador level position in the State Department. The Envoy to Combat Anti-semitism. And it’s that hideous jewish witch, Deborah Lipstadt!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, my!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, she was recently nominated and was actually just sworn in recently. I put up an article, it’s actually on American Free Press’s website and on my website right now. It addresses it and talks about her position. And I think we’ve actually talked about it previously.</p>
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<p>It’s a position that was basically created by the federal by the US federal government to basically advance jewish interests around the world. And there’s positions like this in almost every Western country. You could look at Canada, you could look at the UK, you could look at all these European countries. And almost all of them have some sort of like anti-semitism envoy.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> That’s there to sort of prevent the goyim from knowing, right.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Why don’t they have a minister for preventing the hate that’s being told and spread about White people? Why don’t they have a minister that’s in charge of teaching people about our own history, and about our own heritage, and about our own culture, and all that stuff? No! Like they don’t teach that!</p>
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<p>And in high school curriculum in Canada, my friend showed the high school curriculum to me, the Social Studies curriculum. And I just was astonished! I thought:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Wow! If all the White children don’t commit suicide before the end of the school year, I’d be astonished!”</span></h3>
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<p>Like it was nothing but guilt! Guilt! Guilt! Guilt! Not one stitch in there about anything about their own European heritage! Where they came from, their culture, their traditions. Nothing! It was all guilt!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> It’s psychological warfare.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It is!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> That’s what it is. It’s weaponized narratives designed to target us at a very deep emotional and psychological level. The way Western history is presented all over the Western world, it’s presented as if White people are the oppressors, like the evil people that have been responsible for all of the world’s problems.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> When in reality, like an objective assessment of Western history, would be 100% the opposite. And this is what was so astonishing reading Mein Kampf, and hearing Hitler present it this way.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Who goes to Africa to build schools, or to volunteer to dig wells and whatnot? It’s always White people who do these kind of things!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. Who’s cleaning up the parks on the weekends? Who’s cleaning up the harbor? Who’s cleaning up the streams and the rivers and the lakes? Who’s taking care of the environment? Who’s taking care of the homeless?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah! Who takes care of the beached whales! Like who does all that?</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Who takes who takes care of these refugees, in their little dinghies washing up on shore in Italy, or Greece, or California? I just saw a video the other day of a bunch of Mexicans – I’m assuming they were Mexicans – well, you know, Central Americans, Mexicans, washing up and just scattering as soon as they got on the beach. Just running for the hills basically!</p>
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<p>Who’s taking care of the unwashed masses of the world? Well it’s White people! It’s White money. It’s White societies. And, of course, it’s all part of this broader jewish plan. But yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It’s this guilt thing John. There’s just one thing that just popped into my head. When I was in Powell River and I attended a meeting where the public could talk about this name change, pro and contra. And there were these young White women, you know, blonde, blue eyed, young women. Those were the ones who were the most fanatical about that we must change the name. And they were saying things like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, I’m fifth generation colonialist!”</span></h3>
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<p>And this one in particular, still the image’s in my mind, like she was just about in tears. She’s feeling so guilty for her forefathers fifth generation colonialist! She’s absolutely just dripping with guilt! And I’m thinking:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, you poor girl!”</span></h3>
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<p>She’s been traumatized.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes, she has had her mind poisoned!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> By anti-White, jewish propaganda! That’s it. I mean, that’s what it is. And it’s totally unacceptable!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> So it shows how effective this propaganda is. And we have got to take control back of our destiny, and think for ourselves, and stop listening to these people. Because this is how they present everything. It’s always the White, you know, devil’s fault for everything.</p>
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<p>And it’s just totally not even true, first of all time objectively. We ought to be proud of founding America, and founding Canada, and founding all of the great civilizations in the world, all throughout history.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes indeed. That’s why it’s so important to tell the truth about our history. That’s what it comes down to. Because we have to, like you say, take pride in our people, love our people. And also if we are so ashamed of our ancestors it means that we don’t want to take on their traditions, or keep their traditions alive. Which means that there’s a vacuum.</p>
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<p>And what does that vacuum get filled with? Smut and degeneracy that the jews are pushing on us!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Every time! All throughout history.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, get this. There’s one last thing here I want to quote from the article. And then we’ll move on. They quote a guy, a David Taylor, who’s a spokesperson for justice minister David lametty. And he’s basically saying he’s representing the government. He’s basically, again advocating for this law. And he says:</p>
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<h3>“Our government takes the fight against anti-semitism and all hate crimes very seriously. No jewish Canadian should be subjected to racism and hateful rhetoric. That has no place in our country.”</h3>
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<p>And this sort of rhetoric is exactly what you hear from US officials, and British officials, and German officials, and any government spokesman, the whole world over, essentially. And this guy Taylor, the spokesperson for the justice minister, said that:</p>
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<h3>“They are confident that the Bill will stand up to any judicial scrutiny.”</h3>
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<p>And he says, &#8230; Get this. Okay. This is the hypocrisy and the double think you have to engage in to actually take what these people say seriously. He says:</p>
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<h3>“Freedom of expression is a fundamental freedom protected under the Charter. Like all rights and freedoms it is not absolute, and maybe subject to reasonable limits under the Charter. This Bill was reviewed for consistency with the Charter. It is our government’s position that the offense is consistent with the Charter. And this proposed new offense mirrors existing hate crime provisions.”</h3>
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<p>So I mean, again, think about it. The total hypocrisy of our elected officials, who say they support free speech and freedom of expression, yet they back bills criminalizing using free speech and free expression, and freedom of intellectual inquiry to basically criminalize anybody that is voicing criticism, or skepticism of various aspects of history, especially the alleged jewish “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative.</p>
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<p>So I mean, it’s just a total, in your face, blatant hypocrisy, that is just insulting!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. The Charter, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, that has that “<em>not withstanding</em>” clause in it. And while that excerpt from the article didn’t exactly say those words, the “<em>not withstanding</em>” clause, you did refer to it though, where reasonable limits like “<em>subject to these reasonable limits</em>”. So yeah, we have all these rights except for there need to be these reasonable limits. That comes from this “<em>not withstanding</em>” clause. Which is like basically okay you have this Charter. And then you just shred it! It’s just well, worthless!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Well, you have free speech unless it offends jews. And then you don’t. And then you don’t have free speech <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>! Either jews, or they’re like puppets, you know, minority groups that they’re manipulating and using to advance their anti-White agenda. That’s basically what they’re saying. So we’ll see. It’s pretty outrageous.</p>
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<p>I wouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing calls for legislation similar to this in the United States. Shortly after the alleged shooting in Buffalo, which took place a couple weeks ago. And that’s a shooting that I have a lot of questions about. An alleged shooting, I should say, because I’m not even sure that anything like that even really took place there. It looks extremely suspect.</p>
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<p>But anyways, immediately after that there were calls for more domestic terrorism laws. And they passed a resolution in the Congress that was approved by everybody except for one representative Thomas Massey, a Republican from Kentucky. And it was an anti-semitism resolution that condemned “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial, and condemned anti-semitism, and condemned unquote “<em>conspiracy theories</em>”, like the Great Replacement, which they say is this delusional conspiracy theory.</p>
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<p>Meanwhile you look at any demographic statistics from any city, any state, any Western country, and it clearly shows that there is, in fact, a great replacement happening. And the White European demographic continues to decline. And we’re going to be replaced in the countries that our ancestors founded!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. And I think it’s kind of interesting that they can call this “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”, and they call it bunk when those same politicians, or their colleagues, can talk quite openly about how:</p>
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<h3>“Oh by the year such and such, Whites will be in the minority in this region, that region. And the other regions.”</h3>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> They celebrate it! And they brag, and they boast, and they celebrate it. Yeah, exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> They celebrate it. And then on the other hand they’re saying.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh. This is just a bogus conspiracy theory! Where’d you get that idea?”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, that’s the psychological warfare. That’s the gas lighting! The in your face abuse that you’re supposed to sit there and put up with.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Thank you. “<em>Gas lighting</em>” is a good term for that. It really is! It makes you crazy have isn’t it? I mean, it just makes you crazy. That’s what they’re trying to do. That’s what they do with that kind of stuff.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, exactly. It’s enough to drive you crazy! It makes me crazy just sitting here thinking about it. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Yeah, it’s outrageous. And yeah, we’ve been talking about this sort of stuff for a long, long, time, over 10 years. And you start scratching your head. It’s like:</p>
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<h3>“Is anybody paying attention? Are we going to actually do anything about this?”</h3>
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<p>I think we’re making some progress. But it still feels still feels very, &#8230; I don’t want to say hopeless. But I think the political solutions are very, very limited at this point.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, definitely! The political solutions like in terms of voting and getting representatives, &#8230; I mean, like Ezra Pound’s words on democracy. He says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Democracy is jews speak for country run by jews.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes. Absolutely! Well, Hitler said the same thing about democracy. One of the best books I’ve ever read is For My Legionaries by Cornelius Codrianu. A Romanian, basically like National Socialist type revolutionary figure. Are you familiar with that book?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> No, I’m not.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Oh you’d love it. Yeah you got to read it. It’s great! I can’t remember off the top my head. But I want to say he was active right around the time that Hitler was as well. But anyways, the book is outstanding. And he basically makes the same points that basically in a democracy whoever controls information, whoever controls the media, basically controls the government. And that’s exactly what we have in every Western country. And it’s been this way for a very, very long time!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It has.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> And that kind of leads us into the next topic. This Kahilla sort of organization that you actually brought to my attention shortly before we started the podcast. And I’m going to have a link over to an article that was actually published at the Renegade Tribune, renegadetribune.com. A really good website. I used to sort of be affiliated with the Renegade Tribune. But they still do a lot of good work. And it’s an excerpt from a chapter in Ben Klassen’s book, Nature’s Eternal Religion. And you can actually download that book online for free as a PDF. I’ll have a link to do that in this podcast post, when I post it. And this chapter talks specifically about the Kahilla. Am I pronouncing that correctly, by the way?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s what I think. I might be wrong on that. But I just have Kahilla. I’ve heard that word for a long time. But I didn’t really know what it was all about until I read this article. It blew my mind! Right. Well it’s basically like an organized secret society of jews based on a very strict hierarchy. And this would explain how they’re able to instill and reinforce these narratives and talking points in public policy all across the world. Right?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes. This principle of sevens, did you want to talk about that, or would you like me to talk about that briefly?</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, go ahead. And then there’s a really good excerpt that I’ll read from the chapter. But yeah, go ahead. I want you kind of explain it to us.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[49:45]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> So over the entire world they’ve got a leader in the Eastern hemisphere, and a leader in the Western hemisphere. And the Eastern hemisphere is based out of London. The Western hemisphere based out of New York City. That’s where the headquarters are. It’s on the “<em>sevens principle</em>”. So there’s seven layers of seven so okay they make decisions. And there’s a board of directors. That’s 300 people. They have to be over 60 years old. And they are full bearded jews, okay.</p>
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<p>So there’s board of directors. They’ll discuss things and make decisions. And then this leader in the Western and the Eastern hemisphere, they each call seven people that are under them, and tell them do this, or do that. Then those seven call each of them call seven under them. So you got 49. Then each of them calls seven under them. Now, I don’t have the numbers in front of me. Then there’s seven layers like that. By the seventh layer you’ve got almost a million people in the Eastern hemisphere. And in the Western hemisphere, each.</p>
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<p>So you’ve got like over one and a half million worldwide. And it’s very secretive. The people who are being called, they’re all jews, of course. They don’t even know who each other are. And they carry out this agenda. And that’s why really any one of them only has to make seven calls. And then there’s the seven layers of this. And that’s how you can get this huge number of people.</p>
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<p>And these jews have insinuated themselves everywhere, like into organizations, into government, into media, into everywhere. And that’s how they can so quickly have their agenda unfold and be in lock step with one another world wide! I mean, it is amazingly fast and efficient method to communicate.</p>
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<p>And in 2017 Alfred was on a speaking tour in Canada. And he talked about internet stuff. And he talked about this jewish internet before the internet existed. And I don’t think he named the Kahilla, or named this specific method of organization. But he said that they long before we had heard about any of these things, they had their methods of communicating really quickly all over the world. And I guess this is the method. This is how they’ve been doing it I don’t know how long this specific, the Kahilla, has been in existence. But this is just incredible!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. You’re right. You make a lot of good points. And it’s an interesting way of looking at the situation. I don’t know if there’s too much concrete, hard proof, of the existence of this sort of organization. Maybe it existed at some point in history. And I’m not even denying that it exists today. I wouldn’t be surprised if it does. But you can just look at the way jewish organizations network with each other. And the way they coordinate. And they’re all on the same page, always!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> And most of these organizations have connections to the media. They have connections to the government. They have connections to synagogues, local synagogues, international. So they’re all very, very, well networked and organized.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Church organizations, not just synagogues, right. But there’re all the other churches, they’ve been all infiltrated. And then teachers organizations.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> In Masonry, unions, exactly.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Absolutely.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, let me just read briefly an excerpt here. It says here:</p>
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<h3>“With a secret, dedicated, fanatically loyal organization, with this kind of structure it is easy to see how orders can be communicated and carried out with the minimum of delay, or red tape. When the hemispheric head of the Kahilla gives orders to his seven, from there on there are only six steps down the line of command in order to have every one of the one million Kahilla members notified in short order. All that is necessary to make seven sets of phone calls down the chain of command. Remember each man only has to make seven calls to the seven men below him, and in a matter of minutes the whole network of one million members has been given their marching orders. This is how the jews manage to set in motion strikes, agitations, student riots, or whatever is the order of the day, all over the world at the same time. This is the leadership principle at work. Among other things the Kahilla members are taught to infiltrate the management of our schools, colleges, and universities, in order to indoctrinate our younger and rising leaders with their false philosophies.”</h3>
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<p>And it goes on to discuss how they’ve also infiltrated media organizations, and other secret societies, like Freemasonry, and the Catholic Church, and the Jesuits, and things of this nature. So this actually makes a lot of sense. And even today I don’t know if necessarily it’s this sort of a hierarchical. Because there are so many jewish organizations that are so well networked and connected. That it’s almost this is just how they operate.</p>
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<p>I mean look at how like the Black Lives Matters protest got off the ground, back in 2020. Nationwide in a matter of one night, virtually every major city in the country had a major, basically violent revolution at on their hands! That’s how these people operate.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:37]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s right.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> We see that same thing going on recently with the Supreme Court leak. I don’t know if you followed that, but somebody within the Supreme Court. It had to be one of the clerks working for one of the Supreme Court justices, leaked a draft opinion that would have basically overturned Roe vs Wade. And it was leaked to the media.</p>
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<p>And almost overnight there were massive protests. And all these radical crazy abortionists, and feminists, and Antifa. And all these very crazy like Left-wing radicals were out in the streets. They were protesting in front of Supreme Court justices private homes. They were surrounding the Supreme Court in Washington DC. I mean, like literally like an insurrection organized instantly. That’s how these people work. That’s how these people operate. None of that happened organically <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> No! Absolutely not!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. No, it’s quite something isn’t it?</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. Anyways, very interesting. I’m glad that you brought that to my attention. Like I said, I was sort of familiar with the concept. But that article is very interesting. And if anybody’s interested definitely check out the article. And you can even download the full book and read it. I’ve actually never read Nature’s Eternal Religion. I am familiar with Ben Klassen. I know he’s like very anti-Christian which has always kind of turned me off to his writings, and his work, and stuff. I haven’t really investigated it all that closely. But for anybody interested it’s there. You can find a link to it when I post this program. Was there anything else you wanted to mention about this topic?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> No. We could move on.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Okay. I gotta ask you really quickly. And we don’t have to spend a lot of time on this. I’m just curious if you have any opinion on these alleged mass shootings that have recently taken place. I talked extensively about the alleged shooting in Buffalo with Russ Winter on a recent podcast. So I’d encourage everybody to check that out if they haven’t heard it already. But between then there was also another alleged shooting in Texas, which was very, very bizarre. It almost looks like, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> You’re talking about this Uvaldi <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span>, or whatever it’s called? It just smacks of false flag, and lots of problems with that.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I’m not somebody who has looked into and researched all the details there, but right away a lot of red flags went up. So I think that there’s a lot of problems with their story, with the authenticity of it.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Absolutely. It’s one of the most bizarre official shooting stories that I’ve ever heard. It very much reminds me of like a Mexican version of Sandy Hook! Like Sandy Hook was extremely bizarre. And the interviews with the alleged parents, and none of it added up. The official story didn’t make any sort of sense. And it’s the same exact thing in this case.</p>
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<p>I actually just read an article that was published by the New York Post – so not some like random blog on the internet – talking about how there was a drill, a mass shooting drill, that took place in the same town at the high school. But this was back in March. And so it seems like there’s always like some sort of drill involved leading up to an alleged mass shooting. I don’t know what to make of that. But it is very interesting.</p>
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<p>And if you just read the official story. I mean, it’s literally like the most asinine, ludicrous story! This kid shoots his grandma in the face with the weapon that he only recently purchased. He apparently bought two of these high powered assault rifles. Which, I mean, they’re like thousands of dollars. Where is this kid getting the money to purchase these weapons, to purchase all this ammunition? He had tons of ammunition. How was he carrying it on himself and like running around and shooting everybody.</p>
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<p>He apparently got in a truck and drove his truck into a ditch. If you drive your truck into a ditch how are you not injured? I mean, he like instantly like jumped out of his truck and was like running around and like shooting people, shooting at people. And then he entered the school, and the door was opened by a teacher. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I mean, it’s just like the most ridiculous story!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And then the part that I thought was really weird makes no sense, is that the police didn’t go in for an hour!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> What’s that all about? I couldn’t even make sense of what they’re trying to achieve with that part of the story.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> It’s almost like they’re trying to like discredit the police. And they’ve been trying to do that for a long time with these Black Lives Matters sort of protests, and police brutality, and yeah all this other nonsense. And the police do make mistakes. Obviously, they’re not perfect.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> But it’s part of that drive I think to defund the police. And then you have total mayhem right.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes. Exactly! And to make them look totally incompetent. And in many cases. I think they probably are incompetent.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. No doubt. But still there’s an agenda here. Because then they’ll, you know, accompany that with the violent sort of BLM which I call, Burn Loot and Murder <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>! It’s what it stands for.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Absolutely. So anyways, we don’t got to spend a lot of time on it. I don’t know how closely you’ve looked into it. But it is a very, very weird bizarre situation that makes absolutely no sense!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I put that into the false flag, you know, staged event category. And we can move on.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, okay, all right, good. So we’re on the same page there then.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> I kind of figured we would be. We’ll go ahead and wrap up with our last topic. And that is I wanted you to provide some updates on Alfred. You have a letter, it’s like excerpts from letters.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Excepts from four different letters that he wrote recently to me. And I just thought he really has a knack for thinking of comparisons, metaphors, analogies. He has a wonderful way of being able to formulate our problem that we have, and make comparisons to nature. I just think there’s some real words of wisdom in his writings, and I was inspired to put this article up. I hadn’t done one in a while where I’ve just put Alfred’s letters and stuff.</p>
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<p>So yeah, you had put a little excerpt there in your message to me. Do you still have that in front of you. It was just very, very short. Why don’t you start with that. That would be good.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes I do. He was talking about free speech. Let me see.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh yeah!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah I have it. And, by the way, let me mention this. I’ll have a link to this post on your website. But again your website is freespeechmonika.com. And it’s the most current post right now anyways, as we’re speaking. It was published may 28th. So just a couple days ago. And he says:</p>
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<h3>“We do have free speech, that has been granted to us by god almighty at the time of our birth. That is our birthright. And by that we shall live, and also die as free men and women.”</h3>
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<p>And boy, that totally resonates with me! Certainly!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes. It’s really important. It also kind of reminds me of when I was in jail and I wrote this in some letters. And I really felt it. I genuinely meant this when I said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I feel a thousand times freer than the jail boss.”</span></h3>
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<p>So that is related to what Alfred said there with the freedom of speech. That we have freedom of speech, it’s a god-given right. I mean, they can pretend that they’re taking it away. Those are just blots of toner on paper. He talks about when their laws, their so-called laws against, that we can’t say this. And we can’t say that. He just calls it “<em>blots of toner on paper</em>”. Well they mean nothing! We have these rights, they exist! They can’t take these away.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. And what’s so incredible about America is that the founding fathers recognized these as specifically god-given rights that could not be taken by any man. These were rights that were given to us by our creator. And they were in enshrined in the US constitution in the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights. And Canada and other Western countries have sort of a version of this, although it may not be as explicitly stated as it is in the First Amendment to the US constitution.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> No. We really don’t, we really don’t. Then there’s that Hate Speech law that just nullifies and voids anything that we might think is freedom of speech.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> But nevertheless this is a bedrock principle of Western civilization!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It is.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> And it’s something that our societies and our civilization has been based on, and founded upon. And it’s something that we all ought to take very, very seriously. This is what our society is all about. And what made us the greatest civilization in the history of the world!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s right. And I think that White people in general have this very strong spirit. It’s an individualistic spirit. It’s a spirit of that we have this innately in our blood. You could say that we feel that we have the freedom to speak, to be, and not to have somebody lord it over us. Now, we have been rendered quite ill right now. And I say collectively, we have become ill, because we have been subjected to decades and decades of lies, and deceptions, and demoralization, and degeneration.</p>
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<p>But genetically we do have this free spirit. And it still courses through our blood. And we have to get back up on our feet. Which is what we are, you and I with this. And all the work you do, and the work that I’m doing, the work that Alfred’s doing.</p>
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<p>This is what we’re trying to do, is it is get our people back up on their feet again. So that we reclaim these natural, god-given rights and blessings and abilities. And just our natural selves, who we are.</p>
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<p>But I guess all those reasons, all those qualities that we that I just talked about, is why the jews hate us so!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Is why they hate us. So we are the biggest obstacle to their being, their agenda, all through history. But they also love to be in the parasitic relationship with us. Because we create, we have this creative spirit. We create stuff, and create civilizations.</p>
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<p>And they, you know what better host than somebody who’s creative for the parasite to be latching on to. But you see it’s this love-hate thing they have for us. And right now, they’re hell-bent on destroying us. And yeah, it’s not going to work out very well for them, is it now <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>?</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. I pray. And Alfred, yeah you’re right, he’ll have some extremely profound statements in a lot of these letters that you come across. Some little gems that you frankly won’t really hear, or see anywhere else. He goes on with this quote. He says here:</p>
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<h3>“If someone thinks they stand above god almighty, let them step forward. But we shall never abandon, or relinquish, or abdicate, this god-given right, especially not if the psychopaths asking us to do so, are known mass murderers, and child rapers, &#8230;”</h3>
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<p>That second part. I mean, yeah, that’s a little bit more controversial. But absolutely these people that would basically legislate our right to free speech, to freedom of expression, to freedom of inquiry, of intellectual, or historical inquiry, these people are the scum of the earth! They are mass murderers. Many of them no doubt are sexual predators, and sexual deviants. There’s no doubt about that. And they have no right to rule over us, or to take away our rights!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. That’s right. There’s another very short quote here I’d like to read. And it was in response to, &#8230; I had recently been in touch with Kai Muros. I don’t know if you are familiar with him. But he has made some excellent speeches! Very, very inspirational. Anyway, when I sent his greetings to Alfred in a letter. Then Alfred writes back. He says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, of course, I know Kai Muros! His quotation is so wonderful! His words have never left my inner compass. It has been people like Kai Muros who have left an indelible mark on me and gave me the total confidence that we will reach our mark. He speaks from the very core of our DNA. The tiny message from you about Kai is like a turbo boost of energy for me, because I know the power of words in this dark and stormy sea! They are the lighthouses that guide the ships to the safety of the harbor of truth!”</span></h3>
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<p>Isn’t that beautiful?</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes, absolutely!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> :</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I know the power of words in this dark and stormy sea, they are the lighthouses that guide the ships to the safety of the harbor of truth!”</span></h3>
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<p>I just love that statement there! Oh, it’s actually giving me, you know, tingly feeling up and down my arms and my back! It’s beautiful.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, absolutely! Well I gotta ask you one last thing I guess, unless there’s any other topics you wanted to get to. But at the very beginning of the excerpts that you have in your recent post, he talks about the criminality that we see today is beyond imaginable. And he was actually talking about how you can’t even leave Canada without taking the jab. I know he’s been very, very suspicious of this whole fake pandemic, right? From the beginning.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. And he refuses to wear the mask. He refuses to get tested, and get, of course, get the jab. Can you not leave Canada without taking the jab, like without presenting proof that you took the vaccine? Is that true?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, I think it is. I mean, I’ve been talking to quite a few people about it, and from all indications I think it is true, although some people say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh well, if you drive you can’t go. And if you fly you can. Then you go to quarantine for 14 days.”</span></h3>
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<p>But it’s very confusing. Like, I myself, am not going to go buy an airplane ticket and then get stopped, because it sounds like we cannot leave. That’s from all accounts.</p>
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<p>Now if somebody can tell me otherwise that’s great, if there’s a way. I think that maybe there’s a way to go and just, I don’t know.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Gosh, it’s so unbelievable, we’ve gotten to this point!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> We’re behind the Iron Curtain here at the purebloods. The purebloods were behind the Iron Curtain. And I have kind of heard rumblings about this Monkeypox thing that they’re rolling out. It’s going to be very different from the Covid roll out. They’re going to be putting intense pressure.</p>
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<p>And they’ll start with certain segments of the population, perhaps the gay population. Because the gay population is very, very Leftist, bought into the agenda already. So they’re going to be easy to kind of get high compliance on getting the jab for the Monkeypox, now. Even though this Monkeypox supposedly is very mild. And I think it really is just the effects of the first jabs series, right? So people are going to have lesions on their skin, and this and that. So then they just call it this new virus. And they’re going to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Okay, we need another vaccine jab.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then they start with some segments of the population and then really come down hard on those who are going to resist. And all the way up to putting them in camps. I don’t know it’s just something some rumblings I’ve been reading and hearing about how they’re going to perhaps roll this out very, very differently than what they did with the Covid, with general lockdowns. It could be that it’s quite different.</p>
<p>And also when they do these things by incremental, then people just kind of carry on, just keep going, and just go along to get along. And:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Okay, it’s not happening to me. So I can just carry on.”</span></h3>
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<p>Like it’s kind of a dangerous situation. We need to really be alert to that. So I’m just putting that out there just to, I guess, just to have people be alert to what methods they are gonna roll out here.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Well I think the biggest thing is just people have got to stand their ground and have a backbone, and just say no! I mean this whole time that’s been my approach is like:</p>
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<h3>“Look. No, I’m sorry, I’m not taking a vaccine. I’m not doing this.”</h3>
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<p>Yeah. I mean, in certain situations especially with like the face mask it was almost impossible. Like, if you’re taking a flight, for example. But I mean, I think much of this medical tyranny that we’ve seen over the past couple years has really just been the public caving in, and just giving in, and not even fighting back.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Absolutely!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> That’s the biggest part of it. Including people that like will tell you that they don’t want to take the vaccine. They’re skeptical of it. They don’t trust the science. They don’t even buy into the whole narrative. And yet they will still go out and take it, because they think they have to, or whatever.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, they want to travel, or to keep their job, or to do this, or to that, which is really this disastrous situation. Because what they don’t fully understand where this is taking us. And also what that jab may, or may not do to them. I mean, depending maybe they got the placebo. But if they are against it, but they take it anyway, I guess they don’t really understand it. Like if it’s just to:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh I want to travel.”</span></h3>
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<p>Or:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I want to have my job.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, you’re not going to have any of those things if you keel over!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> If you have a heart attack for taking it. Yeah, I just saw an article. There was a marathon in Brooklyn recently. And it was like, I can’t even remember off the top of my head. It was like 10 people. Like, I don’t know if they died, I can’t remember. I should have pulled it up before. I didn’t even realize we’d be talking about this.</p>
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<p>But this is happening all over. Professional athletes, and just all sorts of people, are having very, very serious negative health consequences, and other consequences, after taking the vaccine. And I don’t know exactly what is going on. You mentioned there may be like some sort of placebo. And other doses may be actually the real deal. And it’s really impacting people.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> I don’t know. I think vaccines in general tend to impact everybody differently, depending on your, I don’t know, your genetics. I mean, everything, your diet, your overall health in general. I think everybody’s impacted by these things differently. And some people may not, you know, face any sort of negative health repercussions. Other people may be severely debilitated.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Absolutely, or keel right over. Right?</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. And that that appears to be definitely happening from all indications. And it’s so evil. And so wrong yeah. And it breaks my heart that people have just caved in like this, when simply all you to do is say:</p>
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<h3>“No!”</h3>
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<p>Look you ought to be a free person to make your own choices and not be bullied into taking, basically like a forced medical intervention. I mean, it’s insane!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, it is. If everybody had just said “<em>no</em>” right from the get-go about the masks, we could have really stopped it in its tracks. I think right from the get-go if everybody had just said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“No! Sorry.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> I don’t think I could wear a mask again, at this point. I think if they wanted to kick me out:</p>
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<h3>“Okay. Sorry, I guess I just won’t shop here.”</h3>
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<p>Whatever. I mean, I haven’t even been forced into that sort of situation for a long time now. But for a very long time, you know, especially when this the whole thing first rolled out in like 2020, it was like you couldn’t even step foot anywhere without somebody asking you to put a mask on, or threatening to kick you out, or whatever. So it’s tough! It’s tough. But I think, at this point, no. I do not comply! I will not take the vaccine! I’m not putting a face mask over my mouth. I’m not going along with this.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And there’s a lot of us John! Like they skew the numbers on purpose to make it sound like everybody’s taking it. But no. There’s a lot of us who just will not comply. And that’s great! And we need to really reinforce that message for people that there are many of us. So yeah,</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Including your brother.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. That’s the whole reason he’s in solitary confinement since December 3rd, 2020! He has been in solitary confinement. And then they upped the level of solitary, in a quarantined solitary confinement, when he refused to even take the test. So he’s standing on principle, because he insisted on breathing freely. Like this is why they put him in solitary since then. It’s absolutely unbelievable that this could happen in a so-called Western, free, democratic country!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Well, anyway he’s getting out! He’s getting out of jail! He’s got his get out of jail card for July 4th, independence day for you guys.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> How appropriate!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, he likes that. He likes the symbolism of that, that’s for sure. But it’s just amazing to me, because when it was starting to get close, because it was always like this forever thing. Like it seemed like he was in jail forever. For me it just seemed like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh this is just forever!”</span></h3>
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<p>And then about two months ago I just realized:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh my goodness! This is coming right up. And it’s gonna go so fast!”</span></h3>
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<p>And it is indeed. Like now it’s just a matter of weeks. And he’s going to be out. And we’re going to be able to talk in real time via Skype, or whatever. I would love to fly over there John to meet him at the gate. Oh my goodness! I would just like that so much. But I can’t!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It’s not possible. But he’ll want to do interviews, I know that. So I know he’ll want to talk with you. You were one of the very first people that interviewed him when, I think it was after he did his first major video. And you had contacted him. I think you, or maybe one other, was the first to reach out to him for one of these kinds of interviews. So there you go John. He will be happy to talk to you again, that’s for sure.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Oh yeah! I know. I very much look forward to doing just that.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Great!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, well okay Monika. Thank you so much for joining me once again. This has been a great conversation, as I knew it would be.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I’ve enjoyed it immensely! Thank you so much for having me on again.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> No problem.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And I look forward to doing it again.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Okay, sounds good. Yeah. We’ll stay in touch, and we’ll have to coordinate something as we approach Alfred’s release date. Which is, as you said, in about a month, a little over a month.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Just over a month, yes.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> No problem. Thank you very much. Bye.</p>
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<p><strong>Realist Report</strong> May 31, 2022 5:06 pm<br />
Here is a link to the Q&amp;A I mentioned at the beginning of the podcast:<br />
https://truthandjusticeforgermans.com/ns-kampfruf-frontline-report-monika-schaefer-on-the-holocaust-politics-national-socialist-germany-and-adolf-hitler/<br />
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<p><strong>Freya</strong> June 1, 2022 3:56 am<br />
(banner) HONK IF YOU KNOW THE (6 MIILLION) HOLOCAUST IS FAKE<br />
Exposing the crime is not a crime! It is the right thing to do, right?<br />
Exposing the Jewish crimes against humanity is not a crime! It is the right thing to do, right?<br />
Telling the truth is not a crime! It is the right thing to do, right?<br />
EXPOSING the crimes (of Jews or non-Jews) is not the crime! COMMITTING the crime is the crime, right?<br />
What “Semites” are the Jewish criminals talking about? It is not about “Semites” – It is about the Jewish criminals hiding behind self-invented illogical WORDS … in order to evade criticism and legal prosecution for their most heinous crimes!<br />
Most of those who call themselves ‘Jews’ are not even Semites! Ergo: Critisizing them for their crimes CANNOT be “anti-Semitic”… right?<br />
https://therealistreport.com/is-anti-semitism-a-crime/#comments<br />
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<p><strong>Stephen Yuill</strong> June 1, 2022 8:00 am<br />
Thank you John for bringing on Monika once again. I always look forward to the interview. Monika is a heroine for those of us in the know in this sad country of Canada. Can’t wait for your interview after Alfred’s release.<br />
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<p><strong>Karin Joy Passmore</strong> June 2, 2022 2:23 pm<br />
Not enough said about atrocities against Christians. I’m learning that our clergy have been mercilessly targeted and genocided in countries taken by the communists, and yet people do not point that out nor educate each other about such things. Let us change our focus from the “holocaust” and teach our children what has been done to our own ancestors. That will cause the needed bond, and free our children from guilt before any man, though not before the Lord.<br />
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<p><strong>Kate</strong> June 3, 2022 5:40 pm<br />
Love Monika! What a heroine! Like Joan of Arc!<br />
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<p><strong>Victor Paul Fletcher</strong> June 5, 2022 5:48 pm<br />
Met Monika briefly in Toronto when she was released from German jail where a support meeting group took place to welcome here now that she is back in Canada.<br />
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Mike Peinovich (Enoch), of The Right Stuff, gives a rousing speech, to loud applause and cheering, announcing the founding of the National Justice Party in the United States. Mike pulls no punches in naming organized jewry as the enemy &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2020/08/24/tyler-dunn-national-justice-party-founding-speech-mike-peinovich-aug-15-2020-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Mike Peinovich (Enoch), of The Right Stuff, gives a rousing speech, to loud applause and cheering, announcing the founding of the <strong>National Justice Party</strong> in the United States.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Mike pulls no punches in naming organized jewry as the enemy of the American people, and Whites the world over, and that the Republican Party, and Trump, just like the Democrat Party are tools of orgjew and are anti-White.<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">National Justice Party Founding Speech</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Aug 15, 2020</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;">National Justice Party Founding Speech August 15, 2020<br />
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<p><strong>Audience:</strong> Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike!</p>
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<p><strong>Mike:</strong> All right! So after that video I’m sure you’re all pretty pissed off! I’m sure everybody’s feeling it in their heart the way I am seeing the humiliation, the degradation, the humiliation, the violence, the attacks, are not just White people, but everything we stand for, and every moral value that we hold [are] under attack, right now! This is a unprecedented political emergency that is going on in the United States today! And not just America. Europe and the world.</p>
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<p>The White race is under attack and it’s unambiguous! It’s not hidden! They tell us every day! Every single day, elite plutocrats, media figures — we know who runs the media. Every one of them, Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL is out there telling you who he wants suppressed, what he wants suppressed, whose statue he wants coming down! And we all know who it is that’s under attack, and it’s us! It’s us! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud applause]</strong></span>.</p>
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<p>So what are we going to do about it? We have to answer this! It cannot go unanswered! We are here with a response.</p>
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<p>So what we are here for tonight? We are announcing the formation of a new political party! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[very loud applause and cheering]</strong></span> A new political vehicle! That is going to fight for you! For White rights for our people in America and the world! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[very loud applause]</strong></span>.</p>
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<p>So we are told every day by pundits, by intellectuals, by people on TV, people in universities, we’re told every day:</p>
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<h3>“Our nation is about ideas! It’s about ideas, concepts, freedom, equality, and liberty.”</h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No! A nation is its people!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> Yes! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[very loud applause]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> A nation is built by its people. You cannot have those moral, philosophical foundations, without the people who spawned those ideas in the first place. And the ideas of freedom, liberty, justice, those come out of the European intellectual tradition, the European philosophical tradition, the White philosophical tradition! Those are our ideas! Our concepts! Our nations are built on!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you think that there are any other nations built on those concepts anywhere in the world? That is our heritage! Our legacy! You cannot have a nation of rights, a nation of justice, a nation of liberty, without a White majority, forever! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[very loud cheering]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yet today, our country, our country, founded by White men with the intention of protecting the sovereign rights of the people, refuses to protect our rights! Specifically refuses to protect our rights on racial grounds! Meanwhile, the rights of anarchists, of criminals, and of wealthy plutocrats, are totally protected! Yet where are we? We have no protection!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How many times have we seen the familiar scene a “<em>Black Lives Matter</em>” riot is going on, anarchists are flooding the streets, buildings are burning, statues are toppling, and an unfortunate motorists makes a wrong turn.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What happens next? We’ve all seen it. There’s an altercation, anarchists attack the car, maybe somebody gets a bump on the head. Maybe they get a bruise on the knee. They get a hangnail. What now?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>&#8220;That driver he’s a terrorist! White supremacist terrorist! Lock him up! Lock him up!&#8221;</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Fuck that! Excuse me. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheering and strong reaction]</strong></span> Those men are innocent! Innocent people! Innocent people are getting framed, and called terrorists, merely for driving in — as is their right to drive on a public street — for driving in and noticing that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Wow! Okay the government has now allowed these streets to be taken over by black and anarchist rioters. And they apparently just have the right to ambush, and attack innocent pedestrians and motorists! That’s just their right now! They’re just given that! The government’s just decided, we’re just going to give that to them!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> No! No!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> No! Is that just? Is the right? Is that justice? No! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[with crowd]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> James Fields!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> James Fields, exactly was the template for this! A young man —unless we win — this man will spend the rest of his life in jail! Are we going to let that happen?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> No! No!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> No! Absolutely not! So how did we get to this point?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Barack Obama was elected 2008. A lot of Leftists had a lot of hope in this:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Hope and change! Hope and change! We’re going to have fair economic policy. We’re going to have a peaceful Middle East!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Did any of that happen?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> No!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> No! What happened? Too big to fail banks got TARP bailouts. Billions of, trillions of dollars! Trillions of dollars in bailouts! The assassination program, the drone program, ISIS. And after the creation of ISIS — as we know sponsored by Tel Aviv — ISIS created, what happened? Bombings! The Bataclan! Other terrorist bombings! Massacres! The Christmas truck attack! The truck attack in Nice! This is the result of the Obama foreign policy in Europe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hundreds of Europeans dead in brutal terrorist attacks! That was directly, because of Obama’s foreign policy. Despite all of his claims about being peaceful, he wins a Nobel Peace Prize. And this is what we get!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On top of that, every corporation and bank, gets bigger and more powerful, as our people are losing jobs, getting addicted to opiates, increasing White death from hopelessness and despair! All of this as the most fair, and just, and hopeful, President in the generation comes along.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what happens in 2016? It’s time for Donald Trump. Now, just like a lot of you in this room, I was pro-Trump, at first. He promised us a lot. He seemed to break every rule:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“We’re going to build a wall! We’re going to deport illegals! We’re gonna bring back jobs from China, and elsewhere! We’re gonna get out of the Middle East! We’re gonna stop with the needless wars in the Middle East! No war on Syria!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And all such things like that. What’s the reality of the Donald Trump presidency?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> Lies! Lies!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> We have the most jewish President in American history! By their own statements! The Golan Heights are now the Dolan Heights, the Donald Trump Heights! We have gotten more involved in the Middle East. Two bombings of the sovereign nation, Syria, that we are not at war with. The repudiation of a peace treaty with a sovereign nation, Iran. And other provocations meant to lead to a war in the Middle East. That’s the intention of this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On top of that, what happened to the anti-immigration platform? What happened to the deportation of illegal immigrants? Well figures like Jeff Sessions, Kris Kobach, not only are they frozen out, they’ve been insulted and humiliated by the White House. They have no room for anybody like that in the GOP of today.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Nobody even wants to talk about immigration. They’re now talking about increasing H1B workers! What happens with that? Well, White men that work in a high-tech industry, train their replacements, and then, guess what happens next week?:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Well I’m sorry, we don’t need you anymore. Please pack your things. By the way, we have a security guard that escort you out of the building.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud booing]</strong></span> No!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> Is that fair? Is that fair! Is that what we want?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud booing]</strong></span> No!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> Trump was there to take care of the demographic problem, and instead it’s only escalated! It’s only escalated. We have Amazon.com, a virtual monopoly over the retail space, paying zero taxes. And Jeff Bezos, the CEO, owns the Washington Post. An ostensible enemy of Donald Trump. Yet he still won’t do anything to retaliate against him! Proving once and for all, this idea that his hands are tied, or he can’t do this, or that, it’s all fake! It’s all an act! He doesn’t want to do anything for us!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If he did, he could! And he doesn’t want to, because he’s in the pocket of Jared Kushner, and zionist jews!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> Yeah! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud booing and applause]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> Political censorship! Political censorship, is out of control in America! And they don’t want to do with the government:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Oh we got the first amendment. So we can’t intervene in this! But corporations, huge, massive public corporations, they have the same right to free speech as the rest of us!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s a garbage concept! What really happens is that an unelected jewish lobby group, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, sets the agenda, for what, 300 million, non-jewish, Americans, can and cannot say! And every corporation falls in line, either, because they are just right in line with the ADL’s agenda, or they are too afraid to go against them, because they’ve bought every politician, they’ve bought every company! They have somebody on the board of every company!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[10:00]</strong> </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Either that, or maybe they’ve got something else on some of these people. I don’t think I need to go further in elaborating what that might be! After the Jeffrey Epstein and the Ghislaine Maxwell scandal, we have to wonder, how many people in public life do these people have a file on? How many of them do they have a file on! How many! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud jeering]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That is what we have, it’s not an exaggeration. We’ve had Pizzagate! We’ve had things like this, but in the end these kinds of ideas are getting at some kind of a truth. The elite are hopelessly corrupt! They’re in the pocket of a corrupt cabal! And they have no ability to represent us, or any desire to represent us, because as soon as they try:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Ah, that folder that we’ve got on you!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That gets opened up:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“And boy, we don’t want to even see what’s inside that!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, as you can guess, you’ll probably notice the date of this speech is not accidental. The anniversary of Charlottesville was just a couple of days ago. And I want to talk about that for a second.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now Charlottesville was, in fact, one of the most important political events of the last several years, if not the last several decades. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[very loud, long, applause and cheering]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Charlottesville was important, because it laid bare every issue that we are dealing with now! We foresaw it. We saw what was coming. We tried to warn America. We raised the red flag — or maybe some other flags. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud laughter]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But we told America what was going to happen. And, in fact, it’s come true. Three years later the same groups, the same groups that some of us in this room had to face off against, are now running the streets! Terrorizing Americans, burning things down, vandalizing statues, vandalizing our heritage, and attacking people, and killing people, indeed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s important, because, until that day it was unprecedented how many men came out for this cause, for the cause of White people, White Americans, and in fact, White people around the world. The elite was not expecting that. That is why they have not been able to give it up. It’s why we see media narratives that are just insanely malicious, and deceptive, promoted day after day, year after year!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“The deadly Charlottesville rally! All the people are down under siege! My god is so terrible!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bullshit! Bullshit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We went down there as American White men, to exercise our god-given, and constitutional right, to speak on our own behalf! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud applause and cheering]</strong></span> And we were attacked! We were attacked by the same people that are burning America today! It was about the Robert E Lee statue, but that’s not all it was about, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> It was the joos!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> Because we understand, that if they’re allowed to tear down that statue, it doesn’t stop there! And we were right, it doesn’t stop there. Now they’re doing Christopher Columbus, Thomas Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt. And whatever we think about any of those figures, it doesn’t matter, because to them, and to us, they are White men of note in history!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they have to be torn down, as a precursor to tearing us down! That is the ultimate result of all of this! When you tear down a people’s symbols, it is a precursor to tearing them down! Something that they will warn you about. As long as the so-called victims of this are not White.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But White people in the minds of the elite, in the minds of the people in the media, in the minds of the intellectuals, and what they want you to think, cannot possibly be victims, because as soon as you start to assert a right as a White man, what happens?:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Well you don’t even really exist! You don’t, even, really, exist!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s obviously not true! I mean, I’m seeing all of you here today! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheering and stomping on the floor]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So after Charlottesville we get an explosion, an explosion, of political censorship, corporate censorship!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“It’s not done by the government, so it’s okay, right? It’s all right! It’s just private companies. They’ve got a right to do it!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud booing and jeering]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Why should a private corporation worth billions of dollars, have more rights, than an individual American citizen? That’s not the intention of this document. That’s not the intention of the constitution, or the founders! That’s not morally, or philosophically correct! It doesn’t make any sense!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Free speech is our right! And it’s our right, because free speech, as White men to engage in political discourse in the public square, is our right! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheering and applause]</strong></span> We have a god-given, a moral and philosophical right, to do that. And if you deny that to us, on the basis of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Well, it’s a private company. Well, we can’t do anything about that!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well then, you’re the bad person! You’re the bad person! You are denying our right to engage on our own behalf in the public square! At the same time you grant it to every other group, no matter how tiny, or how alien they are to our country! Even child molesters and pedophiles, apparently, are allowed to make their case in the public square in America. But not White men! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud jeering and booing]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, after that protest, anarchist rioters were seriously empowered. They were empowered to dox people, to snitch on people, harass people, get your life ruined, get your income ruined, intimidate your family, call your mom, tell on you, call your boss, get you fired, destroy your livelihood, destroy your reputation! And you couldn’t say anything about these people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what’s the result? What’s the result? They’re not burning down cities in America! They got apparently got the message. You can do whatever you want, and they’re doing what they want! They’re doing what they want! And we see what they want to do, what they’ve always wanted to do. They want to destroy White people! It’s that simple! People try to intellectualize it:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Oh, it’s anarcho communism, it’s this, or that.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> It&#8217;s anti-White!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p>No! It’s racial! It’s primarily racial! It’s anti-White! That’s where they see the primary threat coming from. That’s why we are the only political tendency that is attacked like this! You can be a conservative, you can talk about low taxes, you can talk about the free market, you can talk about whatever the hell it is they talk about! No one gives a shit! Nobody cares! It’s not a threat to anybody and, in fact, it’s useful to them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the Charlottesville event was not actually in vain! Which is another reason it caused so much panic amongst the elite. Sixty two percent of Americans agreed with our stance that the Robert E Lee statue should not come down! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheers applause]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Despite all the lies and the media distortions about the events of that day, 82 percent of Republican voters agreed it was the antifa, the anarchists, and the “<em>Black Lives Matter</em>” protesters, that caused the trouble. So even after all the media programming, in fact, it was so bad, that the conservative media made a decision, they’re not even going to try to oppose Charlottesville, philosophically, because they can’t do it! Won’t sell with their people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they’re going to tell their people it was just fake! It was a false flag! It didn’t happen! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughter]</strong></span> That’s how they had to defuse it, because they cannot argue against it. And if they argue for it, then they get ushered out of the halls of power.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this kind of repression, it grants us validity. It shows that we are a true, valid, political tendency. And we are relevant! Why would you fight so hard, if you’re in power? Do you really fight so hard against kooks, and weirdos, that believe in things that don’t exist? Have fantasies, some strange religion, some weird off the wall culti thing? You don’t fight against it! Why? Because it doesn’t bother you. It doesn’t matter. Who cares?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well this matters! This matters! And they fear this, because they understand, they can characterize us extremists, they can characterize us as fringe, they can characterize us as terrorists. None of that is true, in fact, we have a common sense viewpoint! The average man would agree with everything we think and say, if not for the massive political repression, and social repression that they visit upon us! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud applause and cheering]</strong></span> We have the normal common sense view! And they know it! They know it as well as we do! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud applause and cheering]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We don’t have to be ashamed of what we think! We all know that the average man agrees with us. The average man agrees that there’s nothing wrong with being White! There’s nothing wrong with being heterosexual! Pedophiles are sick and need to go to jail! Races don’t necessarily need to mix together all the time. And we have a right as White people, fundamentally, and morally, to stand up for our political rights! It is our right we cannot be denied it. And denying it is the immoral thing! And this is not a fringe view! They just really try to appoint it as such.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>[20:16]</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Jonathan Greenblatt is up there telling you he wants an Act of Congress to prevent us from saying this basic truth online! Because he knows, that if we’re allowed to speak freely, we win over the country! He knows that! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[very loud cheering and applause, and foot stomping]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So a lot of people have said we need to work with the GOP <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[jeering and booing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Mike laughing]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, we tried! We tried! We tried! What happened? We learned that the GOP, &#8230; Actually there’s a lot of theories on what the GOP exists for. There’s a lot of theories. What some people think they’re just openly, they’re just the gay party. I mean, I understand why you guys think that. I think that I can get that, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what I learned about the GOP, over the last several years, they actually only have one job! Systematically eliminating us from the public discourse! Convincing us that we can have a place in their organization, behind the scenes, inviting us in, and then pretending to smoke us out, ruin us, fire us, and you’re gone! That’s it! That’s why they’re there! And that’s the only thing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you know what that organization is about, because it’s the only thing they’re effective at. The only thing that the GOP is effective at, is excluding White Nationalism! It’s the only thing they do well. And it’s the only thing they really seem morally motivated to do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They don’t care about abortion! They don’t care about homosexual parades in every city! They don’t care about protecting your children from this sick stuff that they want to teach in school! They don’t care about racial attacks on White people! They don’t care about White people, period! And 90 percent of the voters for that party, are White! Yet they feel no desire. How many times have we heard:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Oh, criminal justice reform.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What is criminal justice reform? First of all, everybody knows what he’s talking about! He’s not talking about White people. That’s an appeal to blacks! That’s a direct appeal to blacks.:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Oh we’re not going to put you in jail when you commit crimes anymore.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Who do you think that’s an appeal to? White men? No! And it shows you that they are more comfortable making a moral appeal to black people on the basis that they will not punish them for crimes that they commit, than they are appealing to White men on the basis of their existence! Think about that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The GOP would rather appeal to black criminals, than to you! Is that an organization you want to work with!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> Nooo! Noo! No!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> There’s one other huge problem. There’s one other huge problem with the GOP.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> Joos? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughter]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> You beat me to it! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughter]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Ideologically, and structurally, the GOP has always been the party of big business. They’ve always been in the pocket, all the way back to Abraham Lincoln, and before. They’re the big business party. Always been so! And now they’re the party of zionism! The party of big zionism! Donald Trump, as we saw, he’s not the first one, he’s just the most obvious. You know, he’s the lapdog of the Likud Party in Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Every single thing they want they get! This seems to be his real agenda. His biggest donors, Sheldon Adelson, Paul Singer. Jared Kushner, controls him. This is where Donald Trump is. This is what the GOP is! The GOP, arguably more controlled by the jews, than the Democrats, arguably.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in reality it doesn’t matter, because while the Democrats are openly anti-White, what does the GOP tell us?:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“We must be individuals. Let’s be individuals, as conservatives. Let’s talk about business, and taxes.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No! Who does that benefit? That doesn’t benefit the average White man!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Audience:</strong> No!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mike:</strong> It doesn’t protect the average White working man. That’s not what any of this is about. Ideologically, structurally, the GOP representative of big business. He’s more interested in helping Jeff Bezos — who runs articles every day in his Washington Post, about how much White people suck! And how much Donald Trump sucks — than he is in protecting the people that actually vote for him. He would rather lose! They would rather lose!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we’ve known this forever about the GOP. They would rather lose than represent us! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[booing]</strong></span> So we cannot work with them. We need to replace them! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheering and applause]</strong></span> Their destruction is the best thing for us! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheering and applause, foot stomping]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:12]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Where was the GOP when it came to Julian Wurstenberg and her husband? Maybe some of you saw this a few weeks ago, we have a pregnant woman and her husband are at the supermarket. They are attacked, accosted by a group of angry black women, demanding apologies for no reason, trapping them in their car! And not letting them leave. And after a few minutes of this assault, Julian Wurstenberg pulls out her gun in order to stop the aggression against her. What happens? She is now in jail on felonious assault!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yet we have Garrett Foster, who pulled his AK-47 on an innocent motorist, &#8230; Now he ended up in the grave for that! But the whole media apparatus came to his defense, came to his defense, that he was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“A wonderful human being, just protecting his second amendment rights!”</h3>
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<p>Which shows you, it’s not about your second amendment rights, surely that is something. But they only care about that if you want to use your second amendment right in defense of yourself and your race. You can use it in defense of every gay, and non-White, thing that they protect, all day. You can be some kind of Left, libertarian crazy, and anarcho communist, and you can point guns at people, as we know from Charlottesville.</p>
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<p>So that’s not just what it’s about. The second amendment is very important. But it’s not purely about that. It’s about our rights as sovereign White people to control our own political destinies! And the Wurstenbergs deserved a moral, and a legal defense, and there was no one there to give it to them.</p>
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<p>And they are not the only White people that this has happened to, over the last several months. Increasingly this is happening every day to motorists, to pedestrians, to people that run up against these protesters, to anybody that feels like they actually still have rights. And we knew it was coming, and we tried to warn everybody at Charlottesville.</p>
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<p>But what’s the solution to all of this? Well, there’s only one solution. That’s to struggle! That’s to fight! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheering and applause]</strong></span>. And in order to fight, we need to understand what the enemy is. The enemy is capitalism! Zionism! The international jewish oligarchy! These are the people that are oppressing us.</p>
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<p>And these are the people that will see, and use, every ounce of their power! They will lose money, they will spend political capital, just to oppress us! Why would they do things like the Charlottesville lawsuit? Why would they spin such absurd narratives? That are so obviously counter to the truth? That cost them credibility, if this wasn’t the most important thing.</p>
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<p>Do they fight as hard against other “<em>crazy tendencies</em>” out there, as they do against us? No!</p>
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<p>The one thing that really activates the ADL, and the Washington consensus, is our politics! That alone should flatter us! We should feel good about that! We’re the only thing that really threatens these people! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheering and applause]</strong></span></p>
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<p>This unjust financial and political oligarchy that rules, not just America, but Europe — and is coming out of Washington, New York, and Jerusalem — we are the only thing that this thing really fears! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheering and applause]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So, because of that, because of that, we need to found a new party, a new party, based on new ideals! Based on the overturning of the neoliberal consensus. Getting rid of the idea the old Left, Right, divide. The “<em><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> think</em>”, that they use to divide Whites. That they use to separate us, and get us fighting on different teams. Looking at things like:</p>
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<p>Who cares! Who cares! We need to unify as a race, and as a people, and fight for our posterity and our rights, and our right to this country, which we founded! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheering and applause]</strong></span></p>
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<p>What are our issues? What are our issues?</p>
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<p>Our issues are; workers rights; a just and peaceful foreign policy; we will work with other nations, but we will bow to none! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[cheering]</strong></span> A clean environment <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[applause]</strong></span>; defense of the family <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[applause]</strong></span>; pro-natal policies! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[applause]</strong></span> We need to be having children again! Freedom of speech, and freedom of religion. And when I say that I don’t mean religions masquerading as a supremacy strategy! I mean, real religion! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud cheering and applause]</strong></span> True immigration reform, and a legal designation of the United States as a European majority country! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[very loud cheering and applause]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So now, I’m not going to lie to anybody here. This is going to be very difficult. In fact, it’s probably the most difficult thing, any of us, or really anyone in this current society, could do. It’s more than just physical courage, it’s moral courage! Because they are going to throw everything at us!</p>
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<p>But without struggle, what is life worth? What is our life for, if we don’t struggle over adversity, life becomes soft, empty, meaningless! We are here to struggle, because we want the challenge! We want to fight! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[very loud cheering and applause]</strong></span>.</p>
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<p>So we’re here, we are here, we are here for the Wurstenbergs, we’re here for <strong>Kate Steinle</strong>, who was killed by an illegal immigrant in cold blood! We’re here for <strong>Cannon Hinnant</strong>, the young boy who was shot brutally in the head by a black criminal, for no reason other than his race! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[very loud cheering and applause]</strong></span> For no reason other than his race! They don’t want to tell you that’s what it’s about! But everybody knows! That’s what it was about!</p>
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<p>For <strong>Daniel Shaver</strong> killed in cold blood by the police! For Jeremy Martin, likewise killed in cold blood by the police! White men killed by the police! Not, you know, &#8230; <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughter]</strong></span>.</p>
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<p>So based on this! Based on this, we are introducing a new Party. And I want to introduce you to them right now!</p>
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<p>I introduce you, ladies and gentlemen, to the <a href="https://nationaljusticeparty.com/"><strong>National Justice Party</strong></a>!</p>
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<p><strong>Audience:</strong> Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-Immigration-Invasion-Posts-01.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22174" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-Immigration-Invasion-Posts-01.jpg" sizes="auto, (max-width: 667px) 100vw, 667px" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-Immigration-Invasion-Posts-01.jpg 667w, https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-Immigration-Invasion-Posts-01-600x837.jpg 600w" alt="" width="667" height="930" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/10/24/edda-budahazy-interviewed-on-mass-immigration-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Edda Budahazy Interviewed on Mass-Immigration — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/08/10/london-forum-tony-oneill-world-war-iii-has-already-begun-transcript/" rel="bookmark">London Forum: Tony O’Neill, “World War III Has Already Begun” — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/08/19/paul-weston-how-to-destroy-a-country/" rel="bookmark">Paul Weston: How to Destroy a Country — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/10/13/kai-murros-national-revolution-in-england-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Kai Murros ‘National Revolution in England’ — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/05/21/jews-behind-race-mixing/" rel="bookmark">Jews Behind Race Mixing</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/05/29/red-ice-lana-lokteff-interviews-arthur-kemp-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Red Ice: Lana Lokteff Interviews Arthur Kemp — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/01/30/murdoch-murdoch-fatherland-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Murdoch Murdoch — Fatherland — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/09/20/ursula-haverbeck-the-hooton-plan-and-the-migrant-crisis-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Ursula Haverbeck – The Hooton Plan and the Migrant Crisis — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/09/23/red-ice-radio-interview-invasion-of-europe-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Red Ice Radio Interview: Invasion of Europe — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-Immigration-Invasion-Posts-02.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22175" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-Immigration-Invasion-Posts-02.jpg" sizes="auto, (max-width: 663px) 100vw, 663px" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-Immigration-Invasion-Posts-02.jpg 663w, https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-Immigration-Invasion-Posts-02-600x841.jpg 600w" alt="" width="663" height="929" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/07/way-of-the-world-how-the-globalists-stole-our-home-dec-2018-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Way of the World — How the Globalists Stole Our Home, Dec 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/10/06/kalergi-plan-graffiti-appears-in-rathmines-dublin-liveline-with-joe-duffy-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Kalergi Plan Graffiti Appears in Rathmines, Dublin – Liveline with Joe Duffy — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/07/01/mark-collett-the-plot-to-flood-europe-with-200-million-africans-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Mark Collett — The Plot to Flood Europe with 200 Million Africans — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/07/17/andrew-hitchcock-rosette-delacroix-the-kalergi-plan-decoded-white-genocide-jul-2018-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Andrew Hitchcock – Rosette Delacroix – The Kalergi Plan Decoded – White Genocide – Jul 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/11/24/red-ice-tv-why-they-want-to-replace-white-people-nov-2018-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Red Ice TV — Why They Want To Replace White People, Nov, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/10/01/poseidon-replacement-migration-agenda-united-nations-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Poseidon — Replacement Migration Agenda – United Nations — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2019/01/31/resurrection-europa-jordan-peterson-is-an-anti-white-globalist-nov-2018-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Resurrection Europa — Jordan Peterson Is An Anti-White Globalist, Nov 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/27/salim-mansur-globalism-and-the-un-compact-for-migration-dec-2018-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Salim Mansur – Globalism and the UN Compact for Migration, Dec 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2019/02/21/vertigopolitix-the-tactics-of-immigration-jul-2018-transcript/" rel="bookmark">VertigoPolitix – The Tactics of Immigration, Jul 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<strong>Brian Ruhe</strong> from &#8220;<strong><em>The Brian Ruhe Show</em></strong>&#8221; interviews (Nov 15, 2018) <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong> in her first appearance since being released from a German prison, after serving 10 months for a five-minute YouTube video, in which she gave a belated apology to her German mother for berating her for not doing something about the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8220;, that Monika has since realized, factually never happened.<br />
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<div id="description" class="style-scope ytd-video-secondary-info-renderer"><strong>Monika Schaefer</strong> tells her story for the first time of what it was like being imprisoned in Germany since Jan. 3, 2018 for the &#8220;<em>hate crime</em>&#8221; of Holocaust denial. She has been on <strong>The Brian Ruhe Show</strong> about ten times before.</div>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Welcome to the Brian Ruhe Show. It’s August. Sorry it’s November the 15th 2018. My guest is Monika Schaefer! This is her first public appearance after leaving prison in Germany so it’s a huge honor to have you on the show Monika! We want to hear your experience. Welcome to the show!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika</strong>: Thank you Brian. Oh my goodness! This is hard to believe, and it’s amazing that I’m talking to the world now!</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah we should tell the audience in case they don’t know, in January the 3rd of this year you’re visiting Germany and you’re imprisoned. But where do you want to begin? Tell us the story Monika. Welcome home! Welcome home to Canada on behalf of everyone, welcome home!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you! I guess where I want to start is to thank all the people who wrote to me and were active on my behalf, and actually on behalf of all free men and women, really. Because, as somebody has wisely has said:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So it wasn’t just about me being in prison, because really why was I in prison for telling the truth? Political prisoner! So it’s not about me, it’s about all of us. But I really want to say thank you to all the people who wrote. I tried my best to write back. I don’t think I kept up all the time. And it also could very well be that some letters did not make it to their destination. I know that is the case from some specific people who, you know, told me certain letters didn’t get through. But anyway, I just wanted to first start with that appreciation. It was my lifeline while I was in prison. It really was!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, the first few weeks I had absolutely no contact with anybody via a phone call, by a visitor, nothing! It’s like I went into a deep, dark, hole and I just had no idea, you know, when and how I was gonna get out of this deep, dark, hole! And so, actually my very first contact was from the Canadian Consulate in Munich, or I’ll say Munich for the English-speaking world, but that’s where I was, in prison for the last ten months. So they came, and I didn’t know who was coming. The guards just said:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I didn’t think it was anybody in my family. I thought it might be a lawyer, but it wasn’t. It was the Consulate.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah I’ll just fast-forward to today.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Because I finally got my phone hooked up today. It took a long time, and</span> <span style="color:#008000;">[getting the]</span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Internet, and that’s why we’re able to talk right now. I was still cut off even after I got home. I went to the library and used Wi-Fi there, and that kind of thing. But I felt very much cut off still.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But anyway, by total coincidence, this morning, the phone rang and I looked at this thing like it was, you know, a thing from outer space, because it was disconnected, and I didn’t even know it was connected yet., because they said a technician would come to my home today to connect it. Nobody had come yet. Suddenly the phone rings, fully expecting it was the phone company. No! It was Ottawa! It was the Global Affairs like the people who are connected with the embassies. In other words, the Canadian representative.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> He called you today? Well, what were they calling you for?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, he called, he was the one who dealt with my “<em>file</em>” here in Canada, while the people in Munich were dealing with my “<em>file</em>” there. And they had tried a few times — obviously not gotten through, because my phone hadn’t been hooked up yet — but to close the file basically. To see if I’m home, safe and sound. And I thought that rather ironic and interesting that they were checking to see that I was safe and sound! , because Ottawa — in other words, the government, or somebody — forbade the German Consulate in Munich to attend trial. They would have liked to attend the trial. They were forbidden to attend the trial!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> I know! Canada wasn’t helping you at all in Germany.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> No.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Now they called to see if you’re okay!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well not just were they not helping my case, they were obstructing! People who might go to see that I was getting a fair hearing. And, of course, I understand —they told me early on that they do not interfere in the laws of the land — I understand that. That’s not the job of the consulate<strong>.</strong> However, their job is to see that, first of all, I’m being treated well, and also to see that I’m getting a fair hearing. So anyway, that was kind of full circle. That all, you know, came today, to close the file on me.</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">they couldn’t wash their hands like a</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Wow! They did a lot of work for you, didn’t they!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah! Yeah, so I guess on that note of this being a very political trial, a political case, a political incarceration, and I just talked about Ottawa forbidding the consulate to attend. So, having been released just three weeks ago tomorrow, I thought it would be nice to spend a few weeks, or at least a few days, in Germany, after I was released, to visit with relatives.</span> <span style="color:#008000;">[adjusting her camera]</span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">it’s the other way? No like this?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah I’m just saying. Yeah, a bit too much head-space.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Okay I went the other way. I understood the opposite there Brian, from your gestures.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah. You still have a bit too much head-space.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> No problem. Yeah I just understood the opposite, so I gave it more. Anyway, what happened is I had to flee. So I went from prisoner to fugitive! And it’s, because I got indications and signals from several directions. This was not just one person telling me:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee Monika, we think it’s dangerous for you to stay in Germany.</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">This was several sources, giving me the indication that it’s, time to get out. I had to flee. So I went from being ten months in a prison cell, where basically I have no power over decision-making for day-to-day life. Right? I mean, it’s not like I left my brain behind. Like I didn’t put my brain to sleep, I used all my faculties, and I worked hard, and I was very disciplined at staying active, mentally and physically, and every which way. I was really trying to stay alert and active. However when it comes to the day-to-day decision-making, you have no power, nothing! You know, they set the schedule and you’re basically at their disposal. They’ve got the key and they turn it when they feel like turning it. And you’re on a very, very strict tight schedule.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So I went from that for 10 months <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling] </strong></span>to suddenly having to flee! And being basically thrown out into the world and having to make my way home. And I’m telling you, it was a little bit more excitement than I cared for!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, “<em>excitement</em>” doesn’t sound like the word. It must have been quite disturbing. Were you isolated emotionally? , or how did it feel?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> I would say that for several days, hour after hour, after hour, and through the night, I was travelling by trains to get out of Germany and not fly from Germany. That was the advice also. I was just on a really high level of tension. And I don’t know what you could call it. I guess probably there was adrenaline coursing through my body. But I don’t know adrenaline is just a really fast thing, you know, fight-or-flight. But it felt like I was in the flight mode for hour, after hour, after hour! It was, yeah, it was extreme, I have to say!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Was anybody with you, supporting you? Or were you alone traveling?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> I was alone traveling. I started out with a family member, the very first leg. Then basically eight trains later I was at an airport in another country. And then I could buy a ticket like walking up to a bus ticket counter, except that this was to get on an airplane. And so I flew back to Canada.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So, I was very fortunate in that I had support, in terms of, I had money in my pocket. I mean, I had to have money in my pocket. I didn’t have any of, &#8230; The money stayed in a prison. Right now it’s still there, because I got released on a Friday night some they said they were sending you money to buy stamps and things like that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Did you ever get that?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh yes! And I also want to say thank you so much to all the people who did send donations. All those 5, and 10, and 20 Euro donations. So they would put that into the account there. But there’s now still money there. Hopefully my lawyer will be able to get it out. I did send him a, you know, like a power of attorney thing, just to be able to do that. And there were foreign currencies amounts, as well. And checks which they would have just handed to me if I had been able to pick those up. But I had to flee! I did go back to the jail on the Saturday. That was kind of even, that was risky. My lawyer didn’t really want me to do that. I was released on Friday.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> It sounds terrible! Like why is it risky? They released you from prison legally, what, why is it so risky? Or can’t you tell us?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Very good question! This brings us to the core of the German court system. The German so-called “<em>justice</em>” system. You cannot defend yourself in a German court of law, because if you defend yourself, by speaking about the very things that you are in prison for, well then you are doing a “<em>new</em>” crime! Like the thing that they call a “<em>crime</em>”, the politically incorrect speech, whatever it is that they threw you in there for like what they threw me in for, was just for speaking, peaceful expression. Never did violence. Never promoted violence. Never did anything like that! Just peacefully talking about how I see the events of World War Two. And they are very different from what we have been taught. So if we defend ourselves in court by talking about those things we do “<em>new</em>” crime in their eyes! Like do you see the, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Wow! It’s Orwellian!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It’s bizarre! It is completely bizarre! So in the last word, so the prisoner, the defendant gets the last word, “<em>das letzte Wort</em>”. So I gave a quite a long speech, almost four hours. And I studiously actually avoided the taboo “<em>H</em>” subject</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Holocaust/Holohoax]</strong></span><span style="color:#0000ff;">, you know,</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">this taboo subject! But, the context — and we all know what happened to Sylvia Stolz — and she has been, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> You can tell the audience though, tell the audience what happened to <strong>Sylvia Stolz</strong>.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes. Well, she did spend time in jail. She was the attorney for Ernst Zundel, years ago in Germany. And did her job “<em>too well</em>”, and she was thrown into jail for almost three and a half years. So she spent three and a half years in jail and then barred from carrying on her profession, as a lawyer. And then sometime later, she was in Switzerland, gave a talk there. And it was on the subject of “<em>freedom of speech</em>”. And she didn’t say the “<em>H</em>” word, and I’m talking about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” word. She didn’t say it once in her whole speech, and yet when she came back to Germany she was charged for that speech!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/sylvia-stolz-037.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1659" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/sylvia-stolz-037.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="404" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>See post:</strong><a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2014/08/10/sylvia-stolz-lawyer-who-was-jailed-for-presenting-evidence-in-the-zundel-trial/" rel="next">Sylvia Stolz – Lawyer Who Was Jailed for Presenting Evidence in the Zundel Trial</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Again, this 130, the law, or the statute 130, paragraph 130, is the law that says — it doesn’t actually say the word “<em>Holocaust</em>” — and it’s very, very vague. You can hardly, you can’t really put your fingers on what that law says. It’s very vague, but it has to be. If you’re defending lies with laws, you have to be vague, so that you can interpret these things however they want to interpret these things. So you don’t really know what you’re allowed to say, or not allowed to say.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But anyway, so she was charged with, again this thing called the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, denying it, but really like it’s not even in the law, but just in the context of her speech, they’re saying. And sentenced to a year and a half prison time. She’s not in prison, it’s going through appeals process and that kind of thing.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Nevertheless, so this is how they have obviously interpreted my final speech, because the prosecutor was taking copious notes while I was talking. And she would have no reason to take copious notes while I was making my “<em>last word</em>”, if she didn’t have a reason for taking copious notes, and recharging me.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> That sounds scary!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> So it is bizarre! I mean, it’s like you go down this strange hole. I don’t know, people compare it to Alice in Wonderland, or something like that. But it is completely Kafkaesque, or Orwellian. I mean, the verdict comes first, then they do the trial. The sentence really comes first then they, &#8230; You know, the whole thing is just upside down! It’s inverted! The whole thing is inverted. So going back to, &#8230; Okay I went from prisoner to fugitive — I had to flee. And I did get indications from several sources. One was my lawyer. He was the first one to say:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I did have to go back to get my violin. And I wasn’t going to leave without my violin. And that was still in the prison. So we did go back to the prison the next morning, on the Saturday, and all went well and smoothly there. I got the things out, but couldn’t get the money out, as I said. We’ll try to do that. But anyway, that’s not a big important thing right now. I had to leave, that was much more important. And I did get my violin, and that was really important! I was not going to go without that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#333333;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yes people are wondering, what would have happened if like, &#8230; Frida was Alfred’s wife, I guess you were staying at your brother’s wife’s place. What would have happened if you stayed?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, we could have had a knock on the door, any time. They could have come on a Sunday afternoon, that doesn’t matter to them. So, I had to leave. And yeah, that was that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anyway, just speaking of everything being upside down and inverted, I have to say that after every single trial day, so the next day after trial days, when I would see my fellow prisoners, I would be jubilantly telling them how every day in court they are proving to us over and over again how the truth lies on our side! The truth and everything that is right, really. Like they are proving it over and over again to us how they are just defending lies! Because they’re behaving in bizarre ways in the court. And I can talk a little bit more about that in a moment.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But, what I found striking, was that at the very end, when the verdict was being given, &#8230; And there wasn’t all that much time after the my last word, though we had a recess for about 40 minutes, then were called back up into the into the courtroom to receive the verdict. And the verdict was 10 months for me, which I had already served, and 3 years to months for Alfred. So he’s going to be in there for a long time, plus he has more charges pending. So there’s a, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, that’s so sad. That’s really heavy on our hearts, Alfred.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> So, of course, it was mixed for me, you know, I’m being released right away, but, there’s my brother, he’s going in for a long run. So, of course, it was mixed for me. It was just extremely sad! But anyway, what the judge then said for the next 45 minutes, or so, he’s giving as his talk. I think it was maybe close to an hour. And he basically says that:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Every single day we proved, over and over again, what haters we are!</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh! I’m sure he probably knows you’re telling the truth! Oh! It’s his job.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, I’d like to compare this judge, with the judge at the end of the Ernst Zündel trial in Germany. There was the Canadian, different court cases, but the one that happened in Germany which then subsequently landed him five more years in jail, after he had spent two years in solitary confinement in a Canadian jail.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But the judge at the end of that trial said something very interesting. And in this case, I would say that, yes, he knew exactly what the truth is. And the judge took a big chance saying this, really. I think it was quite a courageous thing to say, but he still did the wrong thing! But the judge said at that time said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>You know, it doesn’t matter if the </em><em>Holocaust</em><em> happened, or not! It’s against the law in Germany to say it didn’t happen. And you broke the law!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And five years in jail for breaking it, them, by the way.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-drawings-of-his-cell-ernst-zundel.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19598" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-drawings-of-his-cell-ernst-zundel.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="716" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Wow!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Ernst Zundel got the maximum, and he did not get let out, not even one day early, as my understanding of it. He sat to the very last day. And that’s very unusual. People get out usually on two-thirds, or whatever, especially if they’re well behaved. And my understanding of it was that Ernst Zündel was exemplary in his behavior in prison. The guards liked him. So anyway, that judge was quite different than this judge. This judge in our case basically just told us that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>We proved every single day, what ‘haters’ we are!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Which was the most bizarre thing I’ve ever heard!</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">And like I said, I was jubilantly telling my fellow prisoners, how:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Every single day they’re proving how they’re just defending lies!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">They’re doing bizarre things. They’re not allowing evidence into court. They’re not allowing anything! Any of the request for proof, request for evidence, that we were submitting, that Alfred was submitting, or that I was submitting through my lawyer, or through his lawyer, or himself. They were just denying it! Just denying it, denying it!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>No! We don’t need that! We don’t need that!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And they were also misinterpreting what was being requested, over and over, and over again. So it really was quite bizarre in that regard.</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[20:29]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> These German courts they don’t actually keep notes. Like in the Canadian courts there would be a stenographer writing everything down, but they don’t do that in German courts, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That was something that I absolutely, &#8230; It just took my breath away! I found that out on the first day. I’m looking around and I’m trying to figure out where’s the recording device. And I’m also looking around, where’s the stenographer? Where’s the person who’s busily typing away?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Because I’ve been in a Canadian courtroom and there’s an audio, they have a clock running when court is running, and you can see that there’s a recording being made. And they also have somebody typing away, typing away, typing away the whole time. And then they can compare the audio with the typed version. And then in that way afterwards, if you’re going in for an appeal, or whatever, you can get a transcript, or it’s just on the record! It’s on the record.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">In the German court of law, it is not on the record! Nothing is being recorded! There’s no stenographer. It is very much like you’re going into a secret trial.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Also, I’ll tell you about that first day. You may, some of you, or some of the listeners, may have heard about this, because it was written about. There was a beautiful microphone system, so every everybody, like all the defendants lawyers, the prosecutors, the judges, everybody has a microphone in front of them. But you couldn’t turn them on! And people in the public gallery they were saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>We can’t hear it.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well the judge didn’t care about that. The judge would say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>I don’t care!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Just shut up out there! We don’t want an interference from the public gallery.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And this is going on, and I was protesting. I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Why can’t we have the microphones? They’re here. Why can’t we have the system be turned on?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Finally, I just stood up out of my chair and spoke. And this was kind of stepping out of line, because you kind of, you know, I just stood up and I just said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Look, is this a public, &#8230; Is this open to the public, or is it not open to the public? Is this trial a public thing, or not? , or is it a secret trial, behind closed doors? , because if nobody in the public can hear, then what my brother has been commenting about it being an ‘Inquisition’, or a ‘Muppet Show’, then he’s right! If they are there just for decoration, all the people in the public gallery, they can’t hear, and the judge does not care if they can hear, then it really is just for show! And this is just a show!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And double that with the fact that nothing’s being recorded, nothing’s being written down, nothing’s being audio recorded, where are we? Like what is this? This is the darkest, darkest age that we’re in! This is in Germany, the country where Angela Merkel says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>This is the freest country ever on German soil!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">We have the freest, you know, the best, whatever she has said, I don’t know the exact words. But that is what she says.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Well, free for migrants from Africa, I guess? Maybe that’s what she meant?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah! I guess so. And then, just on this subject of sort of pseudo secret trial really, because all these things that I’m telling you about, makes you feel like it’s a secret trial. So on that subject, sometime later — it was a number of days later a different trial date — somebody stood up from the gallery — actually it was Sylvia Stolz — and said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>You know, they have taken away our pens and paper.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so the judge said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Yeah. You can’t write along.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">You cannot, sort of write along with, taking notes, this would be okay, but you can’t write like, if people can do shorthand, or whatever. You can’t be doing that here. She says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well they’ve taken away all of our pens and papers, so we can’t even take notes even on the breaks. We can’t even take notes from our memory on the breaks. What’s going on here?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the judge was just gonna go with that, but my lawyer stood up and made a complaint about this. And there’s a law to back him up, that you cannot do this. Finally, after a short recess, the judges — and there’s four judges, by the way, two of them are career judges, and two of them are lay judges, like here you would have jury, but there it’s not a jury. You call them “<em>Schöffen</em>”, and it’s lay judges. Just people from the public.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[25:11]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So anyway, these four judges they go and do their recess and they talk about these things, and then they come back and said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Okay, yep! You can have your paper and pen, but you cannot be, &#8230;</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I don’t know how you would say that. In German you say “<em>mitschreiben</em>”. So to write word-for-word, what’s going on. Well people can’t really keep up with that anyway. But yeah, so, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> I was getting notes from <strong>Lady Michele Renouf</strong>. She wasn’t there herself, but someone would come and relate the events and she would write it and have it published on the Barnes Review. So she was giving us a good sense of the pulse of the court, so we were really relying on her reports.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-lady-michele-renouf.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19610" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-lady-michele-renouf.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="719" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, that’s great., because after that, people could write and take notes again. But you see, that just shows you another element of how bizarre it was. You know, you’ve got the judges if they had their way, nobody could write, except for the press gallery. Now who’s in the front row of the public gallery, it’s the press people, and they ‘re taking notes. But are those our friends? Are they going to be reporting this with no bias? They’re with the mainstream media, so we kind of know what the mainstream media, how they report, it’s not exactly with no bias, right? <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s how things were going, but in the end, okay people were able to take notes and that’s what we, the world, had to count on that. But I know I had people write to me and say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee, it’s all gone quiet out there. We’re not hearing anything. What’s going on?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And, I don’t know how easy it was for people to find these reports.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah. I guess it was more of an email exchange to people that I know. I know that the <strong><em>National Post</em></strong> in Canada did a story. And the <strong>Ontario Civil Liberties Union</strong> spoke up for you and that was quoted in the <strong><em>National Post </em></strong>in Canada, but not much media coverage. Certainly not what it deserved.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-jasper-welcome-home-monika-ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19703" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-jasper-welcome-home-monika-ver-2.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="703" /></a><span style="color:#008000;">Welcome home Monika! [Click image to enlarge]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, so anyway I’ll just check. I took some notes for myself to see what else I wanted to talk about. The fact that it was such a political case and the last word. So, you know, I had this notion that while I was in prison I was thinking, okay the local people in Jasper, how are they gonna respond to this? Surely, they must be thinking to themselves:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee! I might not agree with what she’s saying, maybe she’s crazy, or whatever. I don’t agree with her, but put her in jail, just for that?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I was thinking that this is how people would, you know, their thought process:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Put her in jail just for speaking? Wow, maybe we should look into this?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like this is me thinking, <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling] </strong></span>maybe we should look into this and that they would discover alternative sources of information. And that they would discover that hey, you know:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee! Maybe Monika is talking about some truth after all!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But, when I first came back into this town, I’m telling you, I did not get that impression, not right off the bat, anyway. It was just like the hostility from a lot of the people here is such that I felt like:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Hey! It’s gotten worse!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">They feel vindicated in their treatment, you know, the ritual defamation I was experiencing for a year and a half, before I went to Germany for this little visit — which got unceremoniously extended by the German government — it was meant to be just a visit over Christmas. And anyway, it’s like they were vindicated:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Yeah look! She was thrown in jail! She must be a really bad person! We were right!</em>” <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Wasn’t ten months enough? You did 10 months, can’t they be nice to you now? They weren’t nice before.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, it’s funny. Some people talk about this thing of “<em>forgiveness</em>”, but I’m saying “<em>forgiving</em>” what? Like that notion itself, that’s still assuming that I did something wrong! I mean, some friends and acquaintances have said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee, why can’t people forgive you?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Forgive me for what? You know, there’s still something wrong with that notion that I’m the one to be forgiven, when all I did is follow, &#8230; I reached different conclusions after I did some research about events, starting with 9/11, right? Waking up about what happened on 9/11. And these days, I think a lot of people are awake about what happened on 9/11. They might not know all the details of who did it, but they certainly are understanding that the official story is just a load of bunk!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/the-realist-report-with-chris-bollyn-911-5862-the-six-control-points-ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19156" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/the-realist-report-with-chris-bollyn-911-5862-the-six-control-points-ver-2.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="714" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>See post:</strong><a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/09/11/know-more-news-christopher-bollyn-the-man-who-solved-9-11-transcript/" rel="next">Know More News — Christopher Bollyn, The Man Who Solved 9/11 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[30:09]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And okay, so then I went further back and discovered that lying was not invented in 2001, right? Lying has been going on for a long time, and you kind of go down the rabbit hole. And many, many, many people have done that as well! Like, there is just so much good available research that has been done, that is available for us all to go down that road and learn for ourselves. The trouble is that we have this indoctrination that’s just been happening for so long, all our lives really, like it’s just a demoralization. People have become demoralized, and it’s very difficult for a lot of people to get out of that and to go down that road, and to open their eyes. And to admit that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee, all these things we’ve learned are wrong!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like that’s a really hard thing to go through. But once you go through it you never turn back. The truth will set you free! I really, truly believe that, and know it. Know it to be true, and I was saying that from prison, and I was writing it in some of the letters that I was writing. The truth will set you free! And I was saying that from behind bars. So I’m physically incarcerated, but I felt very, very free in all other aspects.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#333333;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah I was impressed with your letters. You sent me seven, and sometimes you’re so cheerful in your letters, you’re talking about you playing violin on Sunday, and everyone loved you, that I’m more miserable about you being in jail, than you were in jail! So you’re spirit is so strong Monika! You’re an inspiration to us all! And your letters, I really appreciated it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you Brian! I have to say, I mean, after the initial shock — and it really was a shock — but I felt like I was getting stronger with time, and getting more uplifted in my spirits as well. I did a lot of “<em>spiritual</em>” work, and, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah you wrote about that. We wrote back and forth about our sort of spiritual interpretation of life in that situation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes. And also like, I didn’t waste my time in there. I used it well, I got into a — basically they give your daily structure with their schedule — but then I got into a good routine. The morning coffee water, the hot water would be delivered and I would always look forward to that, even though that was at six a.m. I was already up, usually by five. Maybe I’d already written a letter, so it felt good, then make myself a cup of coffee. I had a knitting project going at all times, so usually I’d relax and knit a bit. Then maybe write some more letters.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">By 10 o’clock which is when “Hofgang” happened, the courtyard hour, I was really ready to get outside, do that. And I always went. And you would think that everybody would go, but that’s not the case, a lot of people didn’t always go outside, especially if there was inclement weather.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Tell us about that, like how big is the outside? What the prison looks like? I’m sure everyone’s wondering, like what was it&#8217;s like in jail? What’s it like in prison? How was the first week, and the first day, the second week? People want to know! What’s it like in prison, because most of us haven’t been there, you know? <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Monika bursts out laughing]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-6068-stadelheim-womans-prison-aerial-view.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19707" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-6068-stadelheim-womans-prison-aerial-view.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="697" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah well, the Women’s Prison at Städelheim, well they don’t actually call it the “<em>Women’s Prison</em>”, Städelheim, but everybody knows where Städelheim is. That’s the big “<em>Men’s Prison</em>”. It’s very, very old. But the Women’s prison is newer, so it is more modern. We had hot and cold running water in the cell, and that’s not the case for the men’s prison, like where Alfred is. There’s just cold water in a tiny sink. And, of course, Alfred, he at the beginning, only had access to the showers three times a week. But now it’s different, because he’s working, so he got moved into a different wing. And he’s working in the laundry, and then he does have daily access to the shower room, which is down the hall.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-stadelheim-womens-prison-inside.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19622" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-stadelheim-womens-prison-inside.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="727" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> So what’s Alfred’s job in the laundry? I didn’t realize he’d be working in prison.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, so the laundry, all the prisoners clothes, like I wasn’t wearing my own clothing in prison. Sorry I wasn’t wearing my own clothing, so there are prison clothes. So you dabbed these laundry exchanges, you know, you go like certain days of the week you’d exchange your laundry for fresh laundry. And so it was being washed. And then you, I wore a skirt. You could either have jeans, or a skirt in the women’s, anyway.</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I preferred the skirt, because it always fit. The first eight weeks, or so, I would always have the pants and never could get a fitting pair. They’d either be too tight, or too loose, or too baggy, or the zipper was broken and I mean, it was just a &#8220;<em>Gong Show</em>&#8221; with the pants. So I went with the skirt, that was much better and more comfortable, and then, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> You are saying in defense of Alfred. He’s retired from IBM, he could do a better job than laundry, <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> for them. <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[35:31]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, in prison, I mean, there’s various jobs. I mean, maybe he’ll change his job over time, but he’s really happy to be working, because it gets him out of the cell more and in contact with people. Really that’s the main thing, otherwise he’s locked in his cell for most hours a day. And they had pretty severe conditions over at the men’s <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[prison]</strong></span>. In the woman’s also. I mean, we had a lot of hours of being locked in ourselves, basically 21 hours a day. So there’s the one hour that’s the courtyard hour, and then there’s an hour and a half in the afternoon where the cell doors were opened, just to the hallway.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">You’d have access to the hallway. And down the hall there would be the shower room, there’d be a small kitchen. There was a small group like a room, you know, where you could hang out with others. But you didn’t have a lot of time, because there was always a lot to do in that hour and a half. Also at the beginning of that hour and a half they would come around with the food and you had to wait until that trolley came around, and sometimes they’d be 20 minutes late. So that cuts into your hour and a half. And so you get the food that would last you till the next day at lunch again. And the hot meal came just after the courtyard hour at eleven, or eleven fifteen. So, you know, that sounds early for the main meal a day, but for me, who was getting up at five in the morning that was perfect. The hot meal at midday, basically.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> So your social time is out in the courtyard, where you’d meet and hang out with people. In the courtyard did you’d exercise? Was that a social time as well? What sort of exercise would you do?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. Well I definitely was trying to get as much exercise as I could. So when I first arrived it was winter, not a lot of people were going outside. And it’s basically people who do go outside, go round and round. And I don’t know if you ever heard about the dream that I had before my last night in freedom. I had a quite a profound dream. Which I didn’t realize until three days later what it was that I saw in my dream. But what I saw in my dream was the courtyard.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Wow! Tell the audience about that! Precognitive dream before any of this happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. It just completely floored me! I bolted upright! After my first full day in prison, the next morning, I was sort of in that half awake half asleep state, and I bolted upright in bed and realized what that dream had been representing., because in that dream, which I had had on the night of January 2nd to the 3rd, which was, you know, three days earlier, I was just walking in a circle, round and round, round and round, very, very slowly. All these people with their heads kind of slightly bowed. And there wasn’t anything around, no buildings. It was sort of like a desert. But I just thought it was very strange dream. In fact, it was so vivid that I talked about it at the breakfast table, and then, like I say, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So my first day I got arrested I wasn’t in that jail yet, I was in a police cell. And the next day I go before a judge for a hearing, to see if they can keep me. I’ve read that in some emails that they thought, okay, well you’re only allowed to be kept for 24 hours. This is true, but then they can determine that they can keep you. So that’s when they determined, oh I’m a flight risk! And so they kept me.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’m a flight risk, because I’m a Canadian, and I could just go home, right? Even though, well anyway, I’ll talk about that later. There were other hearings later on in March, and May again, to see if I could go and stay at my brother’s place. Give up my passport and make a daily trip to the police station. Say:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Hi! I’m Monika. Here I am, and I’m not running away. I want to attend this trial.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But that never worked out for me, either. And in both of those cases they predetermined the outcome too, it was just a formality to have these hearings. Just, because they have to do it. They have to go through these actions, or go through the motions. But they had reasons for keeping me which were absolutely bizarre. And I can tell you about that in a moment.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But I did want to just kind of finish. You had asked me about the courtyard hour. So in winter that’s how it was. Not very many people went out. I always went out and I tried to get exercise. I also exercised regularly in my cell and I kind of figured out a lot of exercises that you could do on the spot, because it’s a very small cell. In the beginning I was with people in a cell, and then, after about five weeks, I had a single, like my own cell. Anyway, so that’s how the days went.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[40:33]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> But I was gonna, just to finish the dream. That’s amazing. So you didn’t realize the meaning of the dream until you actually saw the courtyard, and then you wake up the next morning and bang you realize:</p>
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<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#333333;">“<em>Oh the dream!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">And you put it all together?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Tell us about the dream, because that’s that shows psychic precognition on your point. And that in itself is pretty interesting, pretty significant.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, it was like how does one explain that other than God? How does one explain that? It’s like, I had a dream in which I’m seeing something that’s gonna happen. It hasn’t happened yet. I don’t know how one explains that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Well, it’s called “<em>precognition</em>”, that’s like your psychic. Your psychic! You know, precognition, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It’s a mystery. And I mean, I think that’s wonderful that there are mysteries in life. There was more to the dream, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Tell us all about the dream. I want to get all, because this is really psychic! Talk about the dream and any other details.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> In the dream,</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span><span style="color:#0000ff;"> so the size of the loop that people were walking was exactly the same size as the courtyard. You know, in sort of this image, it wasn’t tiny, it wasn’t huge, it was exactly the size of the courtyard. And half of the people were black and half of the people were White, in this dream. So again this is just a very strange dream that I told about at the breakfast table. Oh yeah, and then I was saying that the first night that I was arrested I was in a police cell. Then the second night I was in the jail. So that would have been the Thursday. Friday was my very first full day.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s my first day that I experienced the “Hofgang”, the courtyard hour. And quite a few people who were outside that day — I didn’t realize that, but comparing it to what came later I realized that for some reason quite a few people were outside that day — but everybody’s just kind of walking in that circle.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">That changed in the summer when the weather was nice. Everybody went out and hung out and just sat around in sunny spots and would socialize. But in the winter, if you went out you had to move otherwise you’d get cold. So people were just walking round and round. And I still didn’t clue into it. But Friday night, go to bed. Saturday would, just bolt upright in my bed and realize, that’s the dream! I saw the dream!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But this thing about half black, half White, that represents something different. When I got it got into the jail cell, we were half black, half White. So there were two that were from Africa that we couldn’t communicate, couldn’t speak the same language. And then myself and another European woman. And so that’s how I would interpret the half-black, half-white. It was how it was in the cell.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And on that note that how it was in the cells. Like you would think that when you go to jail in a particular country, and if you can speak the language of that country, well then you can communicate with everybody in the jail. Well not so in a German jail. Most people in the jail were foreign language speakers!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh! Sounds pretty lonely then?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Most, I would say, more than half. Like I didn’t do a formal study,</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span><span style="color:#0000ff;"> but first of all there were lots of other European languages, but there were many people from Africa, as well. Some of them spoke English so I was fortunate and that I can speak English so I could communicate with quite a few of the people. If they didn’t speak German they might speak English. I could communicate in French, too, if need be, but there weren’t very many French-speaking people in the jail. So Spanish, and I used to speak Spanish.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s very, very rusty now. But I could do a little bit of communicating in Spanish. So, with these different languages that I have some degree of skill in, at least. German fluent, English fluent, French semi fluent, Spanish a little bit</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">I could communicate with a lot of people. But, you know, if you’re in a cell and there’s people nattering away, nattering, nattering, nattering in another language, and you’re not understanding them, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh, yeah.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[44:52]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Absolutely exhausting! It is emotionally draining and exhausting! Because it would be much better just to have complete quiet than to have this nattering going on in language that you cannot understand. It makes it very, very difficult, actually. And this is a problem for many, many, many people in the prison cells.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now, there were single cells, and there were these group cells. The group cells are for four. In that prison four, sometimes we were five. They put an extra cot in, because they were very crowded. Once I got into my own cell, that was better. It was also shocking, because I went from being like over stimulated, we had “<em>television wars</em>”! I wanted peace and quiet, but they had the television on all the time, and it was most of the time in another language.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh man!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> And it was very exhausting too. So I chose, when I did get into my single cell, not to have the television. Like there’s a screen in every cell, but it only gets turned on if you pay for it. Well, I never did that. I didn’t want it. So, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> You have to pay for it? These prisoners, some of them probably not a lot of money, have to pay to watch TV?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh my goodness, it was expensive too! It was 20 euros per month. That’s like $30 a month for it. And everybody, just about everybody, had it. Like just about everybody paid for it. And there’s so much absolute garbage on TV, and it’s just such a mind, I don’t know what you would call it. Just an indoctrination tool! So yeah, that’s the reality. But yeah, it was very expensive and a lot of people, you’re right, they don’t have money. Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But I wanted to talk, I just touched on these hearings that I went to in March and then again in May to see if I could get out of jail, to await the trial. Like not to go home. Like I realized, okay they want to put me through a trial. They’re charging me, &#8230; They haven’t even charged me at this point. At the next hearing in March. I didn’t know about it till the day before I went there. I wasn’t psyching up for getting out, at all. But all my friends there were psyching me up!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh! You’ll get out for sure! Like if you go for this hearing in front of the judge, usually you get out!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then the judge herself — and this particular hearing took place over in the Men’s prison, it’s a large prison, so they’ve got facilities there and sometimes a judge comes there — so this woman judge, she was very, very friendly and listening to my lawyer, very attentively. And the guard who accompanied me was witnessing all this, and my lawyer was saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>She can go every day to the police station.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the judge was saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well, she wouldn’t even have to go every day. She could go every third day, or three times a week would be good enough.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">This kind of thing. So she was talking in a way that all indications were I would get out, with my passport being taken, and all that stuff, so that I couldn’t escape from Germany. And the guard also thought I was getting out. She witnessed all this, and on the way back, &#8230; But we weren’t gonna get the answer till the next day. The judge said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Okay, just the only thing I have to do is I have to talk with the prosecutor, and that’s it. But tomorrow you’ll get the fact, and, see you later.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">The guard on the way back, she said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh Monika, you can spend one more one more night in jail with us. It’ll be okay!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like, she was very friendly, very warm, and figured for sure I was leaving the next day. She said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>You know, it’s not so bad. You can spend one more night with us.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Sort of like that. Like a friend almost. Well, the next day I didn’t hear anything. And I had gotten so psyched from everybody giving me this encouragement, and I started to dream about, walking through the forest, and having beautiful conversations, and maybe a glass of wine. And being with my relatives, with my brother. And just I just started to psych myself up for that. But I didn’t hear anything the next day. And then second day after that, I just knew in my gut, I knew this isn’t gonna work out. I’m not getting out. And that was probably my hardest day in the whole time.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh, yeah! I remember you wrote that in your letter, how they would do this. It almost seemed like they’re deliberately doing this as a psychological game.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[49:38]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> So, and by Saturday — like that took place on Wednesday, Thursday, I was supposed to get the answer Friday was that really rough day for me. I kind of knew in my gut — still didn’t get the official answer though. Didn’t hear anything. Saturday, I started putting my pictures back on my pin board, you know, like I had packed everything up — just in case I get out. Because you can’t go back in your cell if you get out. If they release you, they pack up your stuff. So I thought, I’ll pack up the pictures and stuff off of my wall and get everything organized, really organized! Like everything was in bags just ready to go.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anyway, Saturday I put the pictures back on the wall. Sunday it’s a weekend, you don’t, you know, nothing happens. I think I got the answer on the Monday, or the Tuesday. And, of course, it was that I stay in jail.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Ohhh, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Let me tell you, well I already knew that! So by that time I wasn’t surprised and I’d already gotten over it, right? But Friday was that really rough day. Probably the hardest day in the whole time. But one of the reasons they gave — and this is why I said, they make their decision first and then they go through the motions, whatever they have to do, go through the motions — but one of their reasons for keeping me in jail was that the “<em>active letter exchanges</em>” that I had with <strong>Gerhard Ittner</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/a-dissident-speaking-out-gerhard-ittner-cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-11263" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/a-dissident-speaking-out-gerhard-ittner-cover.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="793" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;">See post: <a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/08/18/alfred-schaefer-a-dissident-speaking-out-gerhard-ittner-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Alfred Schaefer – A Dissident Speaking Out – Gerhard Ittner — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Gerhard Ittner, he was a political prisoner as well. At that time he was not, he was free. And I had not had a single letter from him, nor had I written him. I didn’t have an address for him. There was not one letter going back and forth between him and me at that point! And this was written into the reasons for keeping me in jail! And for some reason this would, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Maybe, because he wrote to you? You didn’t write him, he wrote to you?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Brian! Not a single letter exchanged from him to me, nor from me to him!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh, he didn’t even write to you, then?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> No! They made it up! They made it up out of thin air! And him being a political type, that they don’t like, and they didn’t want this communication going on, &#8230; I guess what they’re doing is they’re being pre-emptive! They don’t want me to start a dialogue with him, which is what I might do, if I get out. I don’t know! They just made it up out of thin air! That I had this, like “<em>aktiver Briefwechsel</em>” which means, “<em>active letter exchange</em>”. So that’s more than one letter, that’s two, or three, or five, or ten letters, back and forth!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But there was not one! Not one! It was zero!</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">So, that was among “<em>other reasons</em>”. There you go, you get the verdict first. Isn’t that how it was in Alice in Wonderland? I don’t know, I don’t really remember that story, but that’s what, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> They just lie to you, accuse you of these letters. There were no letters. They just lie.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> They just made it up! Made it out of thin air! And it’s written in black and White.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Okay, the next time that I went before a judge — this time I had to go right into the downtown Munich, to the courthouse to see the judge there — happens to be the same judge I believe that was then presiding over our whole trial. And again, another hearing to see if I could get out to await the trial and just be at my brother’s place. And at that time my brother was not in jail, either. I mean, this would have been really nice for me to just be able to hang out there with them. Go swimming in the lake, and <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> go for a walk in the forest. These were things that I was craving!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anyway, in that case the hearing went by quite quickly, asked a few questions and I answered as best could. A few days later I get the answer. And it was — this time I knew anyway that I wasn’t getting out. It was, I knew this time, I didn’t get myself psyched up to get out at all! I knew that they’ve already made their mind up that I’m staying in, but they have to go through the motions, because a certain amount of time goes by, they have to stay within their deadlines of how much time you can hold a prisoner, just hold the prisoner while nothing is going on.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And by this time charges had been laid, finally. That took about four months, actually. Didn’t get the charges till late April. So this was May I believe, this hearing. And in this case the reasons were almost longer than the whole hearing took. I would guess the hearing took ten minutes, and it took me way longer than ten minutes to read page after page of reasons! And in these reasons, there were things that, okay, it’s “<em>unknown</em>”, this is “<em>unknown</em>”, that is “<em>unknown</em>”, that is “<em>unknown</em>”. I thought:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh! They could have asked me that! Why didn’t they ask me that?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">They just didn’t ask me! For example:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>It is unknown if the Schaefer siblings grew up together, or not.</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing loudly]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> That’s nuts! You grew up in Alberta together, right?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[54:54]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> No. In hindsight, I could see why they might question it, because Alfred currently lives in Germany, and I currently live in Canada, so maybe they didn’t even grow up together. Also, by coincidence, Alfred happens to have been born in Germany. Now my parents had already emigrated to Canada, there was an older brother who was born first, then they went back for six months to Germany. And during that time, Alfred was born there. But they were already landed immigrants and applying for citizenship and soon became Canadian citizens. Then they went back to Canada and had a few more children, and I was the fourth of five.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So okay, so they see that Alfred was born in Germany and they see Monika’s born in Canada, Alfred lives in Germany, Monika lives in Canada. I can see in hindsight that, okay maybe they have these doubts.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> They could have asked you!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> They could have asked. For me, it wouldn’t have occurred to me to volunteer this information, because it never occurred to me to doubt it, because that’s how it was! We grew up as a family together. Why would it occur to me to have to volunteer that information to the judge if he didn’t ask!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Of course!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> So that’s just one example. And I can’t recall right now what all the other reasons were, but that one just stands out and, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> That’s infuriating! It’s insulting! Gee, I wonder if they don’t even ask! Just insulting to not ask that. And then to write that down as a reason.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> But again, it just proves that they have their verdict before they go through the process. And that was with these hearings. That was only to decide if I stay in jail, or not, while we’re waiting for the trial. But the same thing in the trial. The whole trial, and like I said at the very beginning of this chat were having, everything’s inverted! So my perception of it was that they are proving every day, and maybe for another talk, another day, we could talk about what am I talking about, how they are proving every day that truth lies on our side and not on their side.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, we can do a series of videos on this. It’s such a big experience. This is the first video and I’d love to have you back, you know,</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. But then at the end the judge portrays it exactly the opposite! And says:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>How we proved, over and over, every single day in court, what haters we were!</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Like, what a concept! What a concept!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> It’s turned upside down! It’s an American occupied government of Germany. Just turns reality on its head!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. An American occupied, but we all know who controls America! I mean, I think was it Netanyahu who said: “<em>who controls America, &#8230;</em>”, or was it Sharon, I can’t remember which.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, I think it’s Sharon says:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It was Sharon, exactly! Yeah that’s right. So, I don’t know how long we’ve been talking Brian?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yes, almost an hour. Maybe we should wind down you must be getting tired here? I mean, but it’s a real honor for me to give me your first public appearance on my Brian Ruhe Show, about your experience. Because we’ve all been waiting for your story. So I really appreciate you being on the show Monika!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you so much! I was just gonna check my notes to see if there was something else urgent for today. But I don’t really think so, and I mean, then we can do more talks, right? And I’m happy to talk to other people as well and <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[get]</strong></span> connected back in the world of internet and phone now. I lost you. I lost you Brian?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yes, sorry I had my mic turned off for background noise. You’re gonna be more in demand now. You were doing a lot of videos before you’re arrested. Now that you’ve had the experience you’re gonna be quite popular, now. I just want to thank people in the chat here. There’s hundreds of comments here in the chat. People are really happy to have you back! Sorry, I didn’t have a chance to read the chat, we’re talking so much. But yeah, hundreds of comments here.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Maybe I can read them afterwards, or something.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh yeah, it’ll still be here on YouTube, right there on the Brian Ruhe channel. And you can read them all.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well again, I just want to say with how much I appreciate all the letters that I received, and correspondence. And also all the actions that people took to try to highlight what was going on, because again like I said at the very beginning it’s about all of us. It’s about our freedom! It’s about understanding the truth! This is a call for, basically if we don’t understand the truth of what’s going on, then we are becoming enslaved!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Becoming destroyed! This is like an emergency call to people, to wake up.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">The people listening here, probably most of them are, but that we have to carry on this work for all of us to remain free! And one could talk about that, how we already very much enslaved. But the fact that we’re talking right now, right here, &#8230; I always still retain hope, and actually I’d like to just make this one more comment about what does give me hope.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/sorry-mom-cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-10726" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/sorry-mom-cover.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="785" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;">See post: <a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/06/18/sorry-mom-i-was-wrong-about-the-holocaust-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Sorry Mom, I was wrong about the Holocaust — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s the fact that they are so scared of somebody like me! Oh my goodness! Like why are they so worried about something that I said in a video apologizing to my deceased mother, to my deceased parents, for having been wrong about how I used to think about these events of World War Two? And I had blamed them for not stopping all those horrors, and then I apologized later in life, just two years ago, and why are they so worried about that? Shows me that we do still have the ability to turn this around! We have to for our survival! Right? But if they had it all sewn up, and if they already got this all, they wouldn’t care about me, or you. They wouldn’t care!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah! And now your voice is even more out there. I remember when you were released I was surprised. I thought they’re gonna to keep you for like a year. I was crying out of the phone, she’s released! I’d thought you would be in for a year!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, I’m very happy to be back home that’s for sure. I’m very sad that my brother’s in jail. But he himself, I can assure you, he maintains his positive and good spirits, I know that. One of the things about court, all the court days, it was just so nice to see him. That was really when I could see him. And we had a little bit of opportunity to talk as we were wandering up and down the stairways, and whatnot, to get to the courtroom and back. Anyway, we should probably wrap it up.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Well, I have to say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you so much for doing this Brian. And I know we worked hard to get this connection. It took us over an hour to get this Google hangout connected. We did finally succeed!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Good. Talk again soon, thanks!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you Brian. Bye-bye.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/11/17/brian-ruhe-monika-schaefers-first-public-appearance-since-imprisonment-in-germany-nov-2018-transcript/">Brian Ruhe<span style="color:#0000ff;"> — Monika Schaefer’s First Public Appearance Since Imprisonment in Germany! Nov 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/01/brian-ruhe-show-monika-schaefer-one-month-in-the-free-world-nov-26-2018-transcript/">Brian Ruhe Show — Monika Schaefer – One Month in the “Free World”, Nov 26, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/19/the-graham-hart-show-brizer-with-monika-schaefer-dec-2018-transcript/">The Graham Hart Show — Brizer with Monika Schaefer, Dec 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; [Henrik of Red Ice Radio interviews Canadian-German activist Alfred Schaefer on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust&#8220;. &#160; &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/02/08/red-ice-tv-thought-criminal-monika-schaefer-arrested-and-imprisoned-in-germany-part-2-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<strong>Henrik</strong> of <strong>Red Ice Radio</strong> interviews Canadian-German activist <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong> on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>&#8220;. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Part of the subversion of Whites has been achieved through the diabolical lie known as the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; that is used by organized jewry as a &#8220;<em>shield and sword</em>&#8221; to draw attention away from its massive crimes against humanity, such as the instigation of the World Wars, 9/11, etc., while also instilling guilt and shame in Whites for their very existence.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred is a tireless and impassioned &#8220;<em>man on a mission</em>&#8221; to alert all to the reality of our dire situation and the forces behind our looming racial and cultural destruction, if we fail to act! I would urge all readers to support Alfred in his work and to help him in exposing the Orwellian situation that his sister, Monika, finds herself in as a &#8220;<em>thought criminal</em>&#8220;, now locked up in a maximum security prison in Germany.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">In <strong>Part 2</strong> here (<a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/02/04/red-ice-tv-thought-criminal-monika-schaefer-arrested-and-imprisoned-in-germany-part-1-transcript/">Part 1 is here</a>), Henrik explains his thinking on how Red Ice should present such taboo topics as Revisionist material, and the role of organized jewry in our racial and cultural destruction, that Alfred discusses. Since Red Ice has a large and growing audience on YouTube, Henrik rightly concludes that despite wanting to get the truth out, they must avoid getting banned by YouTube by publishing certain material discussed here in the members section.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred then talks about the use of &#8220;<em>control words</em>&#8220;, such as &#8220;<em>extreme right wing</em>&#8220;, &#8220;<em>racist</em>&#8220;, &#8220;<em>anti-semitism</em>&#8220;, etc., by our enemies to frame the debate in their favour. Organized jewry through its media domination have been relentless lying to us for the purpose of effectively genociding the White race through mass invasion of non-Whites, miscegenation and other means to drive the Whites into minority status.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">He then talks about how the advert of digital technology has enable us to reclaim history and expose the lies that we have been feed. Despite the availability of the true history it is a traumatic process for most people to go through as they rid themselves of the lies that they have been brainwashed with all their lives. Alfred talks about how he overcame his fears to eventually come to conclude that Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest leaders that we have ever produced.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Henrik talks about how he has become &#8220;<em>skeptical</em>&#8221; about the so-called &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8220;, because of the many things that simply don&#8217;t add up, and as such is very interested to hear about what &#8220;<em>Holocaust deniers</em>&#8221; have to say. He goes on to say how the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; is always talked about in an emotional way by the main stream media, leading him to conclude there is something &#8220;<em>fishy</em>&#8221; with the story.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred goes on to explain how the people of the West have been, through psychological manipulation, reduced to the level of spiritual, emotional cripples, that have prevented them from resisting, so far, from being flooded with millions of the Third Word.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Henrik tells how that Red Ice has put everything on the line in talking about migration, the JQ, White genocide, etc., wherever the truth leads them. How jews like <strong>Barbara Spectre</strong>, <strong>Noel Ignatiev</strong>, <strong>Gregor Gysi</strong>, talk about the desirability of White population replacement.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred describes how technological development has been used by jews to further their plans, for example with their control of Hollywood, the media, etc. The World Wars and what is happening now is the final phase of the “<em>War of the jew</em>” to dominate the world. And how our empathy, our jew induced feelings of guilt, pathological altruism, and so forth, is being used against us.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Much more is discussed, with Alfred and Henrik ending by urging listeners to write letters of support to Monika.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">I would add that Monika’s imprisonment is a real expression of the war being waged against us and our freedom to exist. Her situation is symbolic of the repression that will only get far worst unless we stand up and fight back in any way we can, however small or large. So start sending cards and letters to Monika, and anything else towards helping her and our cause.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Write to Monika now, at:</span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;">PART 2</h1>
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<p style="text-align:center;"> Alfred Schaefer is a German producer whose videos are aimed at exposing the propagandistic nature of the mainstream media. His videos outline how the hostile elite that are in control of much of Western Civilization have managed to subjugate entire populations and their political leadership through psychological conditioning.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Alfred Schaefer joins Henrik for a discussion about the consequences of challenging the accepted view of the Holocaust. The program begins with Alfred describing what it was like to grow up in Canada with German ancestry amid an accusatory climate of Holocaust remembrance. He describes his sister Monika’s newly found skepticism of the prevailing historical view of the Second World War and her subsequent video productions. Alfred recounts how Monika was arrested in Munich because of her videos that challenged the prevailing mainstream consensus concerning the Holocaust while attending the trial of Sylvia Stolz, a lawyer on trial for so-called Holocaust denial. Henrik and Alfred discuss with incredulity how pursuing historical inquiry can lead to criminal charges and imprisonment.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">In the <strong>members’ hour</strong>, Henrik and Alfred talk about the fractured nature of facts surrounding the nature of the Holocaust itself and the need for further research. The conversation then addresses the migrant crisis and how it constitutes a threat to Western civilization and how it can be viewed as a destructive companion phenomenon to Holocaust guilt and other Leftist propaganda. The conversation turns to the free fall of the mainstream media, how people crave alternative media sources, and the importance of outlets like Red Ice. Henrik speaks to the risk involved with pursing the truth about the migrant crisis, its origins, and underlying motivators. The discussion then turns to the seeming contradictions of population replacement.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> All right ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us here in the second segment at <strong>Red Ice Members dot com</strong>. We’re talking with <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong>.</p>
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<p>And I just want to take a moment and kind of explain a few things, not only about the topic, but kind of about the way that we have to think about how we address these kinds of topics now, as well. The first thing is, of course, that we were mentioned, Red Ice TV was mentioned by name in the British Parliament. It was a couple of weeks ago now, by a lady who brought us up, we’re in the record of the UK parliament right now in reference to, I think there had a discussion about hate and violence and how people turn to terrorism and stuff like that. And we came up as a horrible right-wing example of a channel that should be censored! And this lady <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Yvette Cooper]</strong></span>, I forget her name, now even. She was literally calling, she was sitting there with a representative from Google and talking about us specifically how, you know:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em><i>What do we need to do to make you censor these kinds of channels? </i></em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And not only since that point, but around that point, we realized that okay, what we have here with the YouTube channel, I think we just broke 170,000 subscribers recently. So it’s a good, you know, it’s a good platform. It’s a good way to get the message out. And just to be frank with everyone, I also feel at the same time that I know that certain topics are just a “<em><i>third rail</i></em>”! I know that they would lead to censorship. Part of me feels, I don’t want to hand their reasoning to them, or the way that they just can basically say, “<em><i>Okay, let’s censor it! </i></em>” Because they’re talking about these “<em><i>nonsense</i></em>” topics.</p>
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<p>We don’t have to, you know, we know that they’re not. We personally and I personally, as we heard tonight, we’re open to everything. We consider that our audience should have an open mind. And even if it’s a topic that you don’t agree with, if you’re a newcomer, if you don’t know what we’ve talked about in the past on the show. Whatever it might be, we hope that you’re in a position where you. Where you hear our guests out and you hear us out and give us the benefit of the doubt. And even if you think differently, you know, there’s no reason why you should hate all the other material that we do. You would just come to a point where we disagree. So that’s fine, but, what I’m getting at is, that I feel this urge, I want to talk about certain things, I especially want to talk about the things that you’re not supposed to talk about! Like this topic we’re addressing here with Alfred today.</p>
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<p>At the same time that’s why I feel reprehensible these days, to full on go on a path especially in the first hour, because that will go up on our YouTube channel. It will be available for free and that’s where kind of feel, I think we should have an approach where we basically save some of the more controversial material, shall we say, for the second segment., because that’s our platform, we control that. There we can discuss whatever we want to. And that’s also kind of partially why I don’t want to just go fully overboard in the first segment., because YouTube will censor us and if we can limit that ability, I think that’s a smart strategy.</p>
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<p>I think it’s better to reach out with, I don’t know twenty-five, or fifty percent of the material that we have, then not reaching anyone at all., because we’re going to be at censored. So that’s one of the reasons why I didn’t pick up on certain things that Alfred mentioned in the first segment when he talks about historical events and things like this. I kind of, I just feel, you know, let’s leave it a bit later and we will go into the details. And if people really want to get into the knowledge of this, they can check our archives. They can listen to the second hour and they’ll get kind of the full spectrum of the things that we discuss.</p>
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<p>And again, just briefly on this, there are some people, when it comes to this topic, that are more effectual than others. There are some that are better when it comes to the history and stuff like that. I have a very open mind about this topic and I frankly don’t know all the intricacies, and the ins and outs, of this historical event. There’s many many, you know, revisionists or, historical truth seekers that are far more pertinent on this topic than me.</p>
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<p>But I love listening to these guys, no matter how out of left field it may seem. I want to get to the truth and I’m willing to give the people a platform, that talk about this, that DARE talk about this! And that also ends up in trouble for talking about this. I think it’s a incredibly important and if we can offer, you know, something we here at Red Ice that is completely, &#8230; We’re not original I know that there’s other people talking about it, but I’m saying, you know, in the size that we have of the YouTube platform and stuff like that, if we can offer people, or be a vehicle to help to get some of that message out, I want to! I want to be there as a free speech kind of platform, that actually focuses on these kinds of things that you’re not supposed to talk about.</p>
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<p>There’s many parts to this, and it’s a very dynamic situation. So on one hand you have to be careful of how you cover it. You have to be smart, how you cover it. And you don’t have to be reckless. And I know that some people out there they want me to go full force and talk about these issues all the time, and this, and that. And I just don’t think it’s smart to do that. I think we just shoot ourselves in the foot.</p>
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<p>So, you know, I’m all aboard of speaking about these issues, but I want people out there to understand that we have to be, you know, kind of smart about this too. So, I think that’s kind of encapsulates what I want to say about this. I could go on for a long time.</p>
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<p>But Alfred, let’s focus back on you here now and talk more about this., because I want to hear about this. I want you to be in a position to be able to share what you think our audience should know about this historical event. What components of this is important and I also want to again urge people that you might not agree with Alfred.</p>
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<p>You might be a newcomer, you don’t know about this topic, or never really maybe cared about it that much, or your convinced of one way, or another. But just hear Alfred. Hear our other guests out that talk about this and see what conclusions you come to. See if there’s anything to it, because I think this is a vastly important topic, for the reasons that we mentioned Alfred. That, you know, they’ve hinged so many other components on this, in terms of the guilt and like, this is the reason why we must become multi-cultural. This is the reason why we have to accept all these people into our countries. That’s why we can’t have a country which is comprised of our own people as a majority, and stuff like this.</p>
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<p>So it is a focal point, a node point, in their kind of matrix, if you will, of how they managed to keep us trapped and encapsulated. But how would you, &#8230; Assume that we’re talking with someone who is new to the topic and who might even be upset with you, at this point at the things that you have mentioned? What would you like to say to them, and how do you think is the best way to get them into the mindset of how the should relate to this.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well let’s just start with what you said before. That you are mentioned in the UK parliament there. And they said, “<em><i>extreme right-wing</i></em>”. Well I tell you what, I’d rather be extreme “<em><i>right wing</i></em>” then extreme “<em><i>wrong wing</i></em>”! And in our language, and so much of what they’ve done to us is with the words. They use the words and make us associate certain emotions with words, and thereby controlling us, until we are actually upside down in our thinking.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now they have made us believe that to be “<em><i>right</i></em>” is very bad, but I’d rather be right than wrong. And in German, in fact, they use the word “<em><i>left</i></em>”, also means, if you got “<em><i>left</i></em>”, it means you got cheated. And all these jews, these communists, basically are turning everything “<em><i>left</i></em>”! Which means they’re cheating, they’re inverting it. You can turn a shirt “<em><i>inside out</i></em>”, in German you say, “<em><i>Links abbiegen</i></em>” which means “<em><i>turned left</i></em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I want to use that word, because that’s just one example of how they do it with all the words, all the words. They define people as “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” deniers! They define everything they don’t want to hear as “<em><i>hate speech</i></em>”. Now, as long as we bow and bend to these kinds of intimidations then there is no stopping. They will keep driving us further down the road they want to drive us down. And that’s why my position on this is, I guess some people would call it reckless, but I say I will not adhere to any of these thought laws!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And also, if you ever deal with a psychopath, you will know that the psychopath will have a hysterical reaction whether you do a tiny little deviation from what he wants you to do, or if you just, you know, destroy the whole thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s why I say, I notice it too, the people that go to prison here in Germany. Some people go to prison, because they gave three pieces of paper to two people. Well I say if you go to prison for giving three pieces of paper to two people, you might as well go to jail for giving a million pieces of paper to a million people! You see, because you might as well, the punishment is going to be the same. It’s arbitrary.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s one thing, we have to understand what we’re up against and regain our independence in thought and spirit, and we do not have to bow to anybody! Especially not somebody who we know is lying to us on a scale that is beyond most people’s comprehension. And that’s what it is with the jews, as a collective. They have amassed so many lies, that they know that when these lies collapse, that they will be chased out of town and there will not be a jew left alive! , because the people, they don’t have to worry about us, you know, you, or me, we have had time to incrementally come to terms with the frustration and the anger. So we’ve got control of ourselves.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But what about all those people, when they understand just what’s been done to them? Especially now that the big picture, the big plan is, in fact, the extermination of the White race by mass miscegenation and by genocide. And that’s a reality that will catch up to us, no matter how we try to put her head in the sand, or cover our eyes and not look at it. When your house is being invaded by the hordes on the street, then there is no more hiding! They will kill you!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the Germans, the heart of Europe, they went through so much horrible, unspeakable suffering, and now the very descendants of these people that survived that genocide, are on their knees paying the perpetrator for some “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” which never ever happened! In fact, the jews themselves came out of that conflict, that we call the Second World War better than any other race.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">See they did it, just like 9/11, they got the “<em><i>jew call</i></em>”. The jews, they always set the stage. Once they know the fighting is going to begin they get the hell out of there. And all those jews left and got the hell out of there, those are the ones that later claimed “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” restitution, because they are survivors. Now if you took, how many jews there were even though they were the enemy of the Germans, they still fared better than the Germans! If you look at how many were there, how they, you know, percent wise got out of that, made it through, they did very well! Just like 9/11.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">9/11, I think three jews that died, although there was hundreds of jews that worked in those complexes, but they all stayed home that day. Just like they all stayed home, or they all went on vacation and left those cities that were then fire bombed in Germany. And so many jews, they left and then afterwards they claimed “<em><i>Holocaust survivor</i></em>”!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s reality. I mean, they’ve been so, so, so, successful I think it’s even blown their own minds how successful they’ve been. And this success however, has deluded their minds to think it can continue going on that way forever. And now, of course, comes the day of reckoning. Digital technology and our ability to think, and our ability, as people from everywhere figure out what happened in our history, putting all the stuff together out of that what was supposed to be forgotten and erased.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well, digital technology has enabled us to actually bring the stuff back to the surface, put the pieces together. And now we’re putting the big picture together. And the jew, there is no escape. The jew will not, the jews dream is to have a thousand years of, you know, world domination. Well it’s coming to it’s end, probably this year. And that’s why I say that the sooner everybody comes on board and understands this, the better it is., because it is traumatizing, and you cannot erase the emotions of the programs out of your head.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Even if, you know, okay, it’s a lie, you know, this is what the truth is. Until you really have your mind back under your control with the truth and the proper emotions, it’s a traumatic process that can take a long time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I know, even myself, not just a couple of years ago, I still had to really overcome fears of looking at things like, “<em><i>The Greatest Story Never Told</i></em>” by Dennis Wise, for example. I remember the emotions, we had to pull down the blinds before we look at that, somebody might see us. And to go from understanding that Adolf Hitler was not a villain, but probably one of the greatest Europeans, one of the greatest people the Europeans have ever brought forth! On the same scale as the greatest heroes that we’ve ever had in the past. Whether it’s Caesar, or whether it’s, you know, Napoleon, whoever these people are. Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest leaders that we have ever produced!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> So let me pick up on something you mentioned earlier. Again in terms of the labels and this kind of stuff, “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier, for example. I think the articles out there about, you know, me, Red Ice, whatever. I think that’s usually one thing that’s kind of mentioned right away. As a way to immediately discredit! Like here is a untrustworthy, stupid, moronic organization! You know, they once talked about the “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>”, or that it didn’t happen, or whatever.</p>
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<p>So that is kind of bandied around a lot, you know, Henrik is a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier! <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong> </span>Because I’ve had people on the show that don’t believe in the story, in the mainstream story. And it’s also, because I’ve had them on the show and I don’t treat them the way that let’s say, you know, because Fox, or CNN, as media outlets, they can talk about the subject, but you have to have the right relationship to the guest. You have to clearly demonstrate that you’re an opposition to them! And you’re resentful, and almost hateful towards them. Then it’s okay. Then you can touch on it.</p>
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<p>You can’t invite people on the show that you, and again, it doesn’t matter if I agree, or disagree, it’s a crime that I can’t invite people to the show, and ask them questions about what they believe, and give them a platform to share their opinions. That is a crime in itself, right?</p>
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<p>So now, I become a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier. I haven’t even, I don’t have all the facts about the event. I frankly I don’t know who does. I think there’s enough information to know that something is kind of weird with the bits and pieces that we have been given. And something is, I think there’s enough information to demonstrate that it’s not as they claim that it was.</p>
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<p>That’s kind of, and frankly in the most honest way I can explain, what I think about the event., because I know that there’s an incredibly muddy, the waters is so muddy around it historically. And the few bits and pieces we managed to extract, Alfred, we’ve been able to see that it’s like, well, how the hell do you piece the math together here?</p>
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<p>One thing I really like about many of the videos out there that talk about this subject, and the mechanics, if you will, of the event itself, it’s a very, you know, for those that are not familiar with it, it’s a very gruesome way that it’s done., because it’s done in a very cold and scientific way. And that’s also a give away, I feel., because we never get to that level of inquiry in the mainstream. It’s always emotions first, right!</p>
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<p>Every time you talk about this, it’s about, you know, a little girl’s experience, and they get you in that mindset right away, where were you not allowed to just, well wait a moment, let’s not talk about the emotions first! Let’s just zoom out and let’s talk about what actually happened. How did it come together? What do they say that it is, right? In these videos that look at the, for example, the number of bodies that have been taken into the chambers where they were undressed, and so forth. And then, you know, the gas was disseminated and then they transported the bodies up and out through this little kind of small elevator, up to where the crematories are, and stuff like that.</p>
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<p>You know, what I’m talking about. Those kinds of videos that really going to the nitty-gritty detail. That’s were I think the key is, because it shows scientifically and mathematically that this is a very different. It would have been very different to, what should we say, dispose of that many bodies that they claim, for example.</p>
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<p>So from my point of view I think it’s a numbers game. I look at it, and it seems mathematically and scientifically, that what they say to us, that’s an impossibility! And the fact that we’re not allowed to talk about that, or the fact that they have to kind of show this emotional thing first, and avoid the science of it. That’s a dead giveaway to me! So, just from the point of view, I just like, you know, I don’t know what the hell happened!<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong></span> And I don’t have all the details. But something is fishy with the story. That’s where I’m at. What do you feel about this?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[17:55]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well like you said, it’s all emotions and no science. And when you said before, that if you are one of these main stream media, or jew stream media, they can only get on there if you bend to their nonsense. And yet they will scream at, they will denounce someone as being a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier with such hysterical emotion. And people have no self self-esteem anymore, because they are demoralized, there are people who don’t even know which gender they are, don’t have any self-esteem.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And they will scream from one corner to the next, like a little dog, or like a little rat with emotional hysteria. Not even turning their brain on to just think, well what is actually the reality? They are so incapable. See, the danger that we have right now is that a population, when our entire population, has been reduced to this level as spiritual, emotional cripples. Total cripples! We in no way, shape, or form, be ready for the reality that we have to deal with, which is survival in an environment that is going to radically become more hostile to us. When we are being flooded by basically, well, millions of Third World, they call them migrants, hey these is the very worst thing that we could possibly allow to happen.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Because here we are, our children that are now confused about their gender, that have nothing, but their feelings as their main focal point, are now going to have to live, survive, in a world that is being flooded by millions of hostile young men, primarily, from Third World countries. This is a recipe for total, absolute disaster! And for people to bow to emotional tyranny, “<em><i>Holocaust denier</i></em>”! If anybody called me a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier I’d say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Well, I’m just glad you didn’t insult me as being a “<em><i>Holocaust believer! </i></em>”</i></em></span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When everybody knows that it’s a lie. Another thing you have to remember, Henrik, is that the mainstream media is falling at free fall speed!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yep, yep.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">About as fast as those three towers on 9/11 fell! Nobody looks at them anymore, nobody takes it seriously. And people are going to Red Ice and similar stations, you probably have one of the best sources around. That’s why they attacked you. That’s why they took you down and destroyed you in a very professional way. And I’m just so glad you guys came back up again. And don’t underestimate the importance of your work, and the responsibility that you carry to help to understand the reality that’s out there., because people are revolted by the mainstream media! They are revolted by our politicians. And they are craving for someone like your platform. Lana, what you guys are doing is just superb!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[21:14]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">I just want to say that now. And I cannot say enough how much I appreciate that. And I’ll tell you, there’s a lot of people out there, that have the same sentiments I do, that I’m expressing to you now. But they don’t tell you. But it’s out there. So don’t underestimate the importance of what you’re doing and, you know, stay strong! Stay safe!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Thank you. Yeah, and I mean, exactly. And we could have been in a situation where we just didn’t talk about these issues, or didn’t go in this direction, but as many people know, who’s been with us for a long time, I’ve always just been a “<em><i>Truth Seeker</i></em>”. That’s what it’s been about! And, of course, about philosophy, philosophical topics, and kind of getting to the nature of reality and these kinds of things as well.</p>
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<p>But when I started waking up to, you know, specifically the migrant invasion and what happened to Sweden, to my own country, back in, for a serious way, back in 2013, 14, something like that. I knew about it before hand, I had done some shows on like <strong>Barbara Spectre</strong>, you know, on these kinds of issues that have had risen up at that point. But it wasn’t the only thing after that point, when I researched some of the history and got really just engaged in the ancient culture of my country, that I felt for the first time that something is being lost! Something incredibly unique and important to me, and my identity, is being lost. And I realized that I had to fight for that!</p>
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<p>And I put everything that Red Ice does, really on the line, because we ventured into an area where even most truth seekers never tread, right? They don’t dare! They don’t want to! They disagree politically and all these kinds of things and it’s just too much. We took an immense risk by going into that area. Talking about migration, talking about the JQ <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Jewish Question]</strong></span>. And, you know, who is behind things, and why they’re doing it to us. What their ultimate goal is. Talking about White genocide, population replacement, and these kinds of issues.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[23:10]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But again, my stance has always been we have to go where the truth leads us. It’s an observable reality of what is happening in Europe and America right now. And that’s what I want to talk about. And we have to go in that direction. So I appreciate, you know, you mentioning that, because we could have, I would never have done it, but I’m saying for the sake of it, we could have just kind of avoided that and continue on the path as usual. But I feel that wouldn’t have been the responsible thing to do. Wouldn’t have been the right thing to do, and I would have been lying to myself. And I just I couldn’t do that. So thanks for mentioning that.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Another very important thing that anybody working in trying to understand the truth has to have the strength, the character strength to also admit that we believed in lies!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> You see I admit I believed a lot of nonsense and made bad decisions based on the nonsense. I was myself was demoralized and allowed myself to be distracted, because I was so demoralized. And I’m just so grateful that I was able to come to the point where we find ourselves today, and to come out of that condition., because once you come out and once you understand the truthful things, you know, you look at people that choose to remain in the comfortable way, or that they think is comfortable. Sit on the couch and watch TV and believe the lies. They become insignificant. There’s no content in their lives, they’re just nothing!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When this system collapses and those people who understand the truth will be obliged to be leaders of the hundreds, or thousands, of other people, because these zombies will need leadership! They are not even capable of anything anymore. And that’s why it’s important that we just articulate the findings, the conclusions that we come to based on evidence, and so forth, in a way that other people find motivation and interest in understanding it. To come to our side, because the zombies, as long as they believe these lies, and as long as they still emotionally react to these control trigger words, they are not really functioning human beings! Our ancestors would be abhorred, if they saw how people today allow themselves to be driven basically with words! Simple words, that are hysterically projected on them in an emotional way.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, you see the pictures you’re showing right now, I mean, these people coming in they’re filled in their minds with completely different programs than we have been filled with.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">We have been filled with programs that make us submissive and “<em><i>tolerant</i></em>” and we have no self-confidence, no nothing. They <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[invaders]</strong> </span>come in here with a sense of entitlement! And they want something, they were promised all kinds of things. And a lot of these people coming in, they paid their family savings to some smuggler of people, to come to get the house, and the woman, and the car, that was promised! And when they don’t get it, they get angry, and they’ll just go and get it!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That’s what they do. The Talmudic jews, they program people and bring them together and then they make them go at each others throats. And then they try to come and say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Oh, we’ll be the referee and we’ll get this all sorted out again! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And it is a turmoil! It is a disaster! We have to regain our independence, our territorial independence, our spiritual independence, our souls, our history! We have to find our identity and it is our obligation.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Tell us why you think it’s done in this way., because that would seem as a contradiction. We’ve been over this many times on the show, but again we’re talking about this from the from a point of view of having the newcomer in mind, and that’s why it’s important to go over things, over, and over again.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[27:07]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And so, you would think, &#8230; Let’s take the city of Malmo, for example, in Sweden. Where many of the jews in Malmo have been willing, or they’ve been kind of driven out, actually, to a certain extent. They’ve left, because there are so many Muslims that are coming in and controlling large sections of those areas, that they are no longer safe. They can’t walk around with their yamakas <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[yarmulkes (pronounced “<em><i>yamakas</i></em>”, a Yiddish word taken from the Polish word for skullcap)]</strong>,</span> or kippa, whatever it is, in the street. They can’t be visible about who they are. And then you have people like Barbara Spectre. It’s a perfect reference, because it shows someone for the first time, someone<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[a jew]</strong> r</span>eally openly talking about it.</p>
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<p>There’s many others too that we’ve referenced like <strong>Annahecker Harnee</strong><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span>, <strong>Noel Ignatiev</strong>, there is people in Germany, like <strong>Gregor Gysi</strong> that’s talking about this. Many politicians too, in Germany talking about the replacement, basically. And that Europe has to become multi-cultural.</p>
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<p>But tell us about that seeming contradiction that if they bring in lots of Muslims into Europe, then those jewish populations that are in Europe, are going to be targeted themselves. At least those on the street level, maybe not the elite ones, you know, that are owning banks and media corporations and stuff like this. But why is it beneficial for them to do that, when you think, initially, that would be something that hurts their own people?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">If you see this all in the context of the big picture. I’m talking about from the biological point of view. And when I say a biological perspective, I say that looking at us as the White race, the European peoples, and the onslaught of the jew, as a parasite, on the White race to eradicate, or weaken the White race, to the point of not being a hindrance to the jews quest for world domination.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now the jew, as a parasite, will never be able to dominate a functioning planet, but these invaders are an instrument used to destroy us! To breed us down, and basically destroy us. But that is the mind of the psychopathic parasite. This strategy may have worked as long as the jew was going from one European tribe to the next, when one was destroyed it could just sort of slither out the back door before it completely collapsed and go to the next host and start all over there. And this was so successful.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[29:45]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Then the technological revolution was somehow very conducive to this behavior. Let’s look at it in the United States and the film industry, and Hollywood, and so forth. Now the jews never invented anything at all. They just took everything over after we invented it. Look at Thomas Edison. Well, he might have invented the movie cameras and stuff like that, but the jews seemed to have taken over Hollywood and got total control of it. As well as all the media, and everything else. They don’t invent, or create! They just infiltrate and take over, and then use it for their devious purposes. Their business model basically is, now that we have kvetched and sucked as much out of these European peoples as we can, we are so close to world domination, now we have to get rid of them, before they figure it out and retaliate with the retribution that’s coming coming down their way. And that’s the situation we have.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So it’s really the final showdown — them, or us! And everything they have done so far, has brought us to this point — them, or us!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now they want to exterminate us, well if we reverse that one hundred eighty degrees, then we have to exterminate them! And they’re trying to prevent that with “<em><i>thought laws</i></em>”! That we cannot even express this natural biological response that is necessary for us to survive. They’re trying to make it illegal! And that’s not going to work, you see, because this is a biological thing, and the jew knows it. And the more draconian that they come with their pathetic thought laws, people don’t let themselves be driven by that anymore, except the zombies.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But the zombies, they all have to be put down. I mean, I know it sounds really cruel for a moment. But if you have a dog at home and you have conditioned this dog to just bite any blonde person that comes along, for whatever reason. Now you decide that wasn’t a good idea, I want to deprogram the dog. Well if you cannot, if you’re not able to deprogram the dog what are you going to do? You will put it down as a sick dog.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now, I don’t want to talk about our people as being sick dogs, but if we have people that prefer to keep the programs that they have been programmed with, through the psychological warfare that they have been indoctrinated with. If they choose to continue running on these programs, they are not a functioning human being. They are, in fact, standing in the way, serving as our enemies! And the jews even gloat about the fact that they will get the “<em><i>goyim</i></em>” to be instruments of their own destruction!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And these people, these lefties, these communists, our people who throw us in jail, who come and steal my computers, for example, these are our people! And they have been conditioned to do that, and they have to understand — that’s what I told them when they were here just yesterday morning. I said:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>You guys will all be held to account, and I hope you guys have some pretty good reasons figured out, because it’s not far away. We know your names, we have your faces. Lists are being compiled. And you need to understand what treason is, and you need to understand what theft is! So you figure it out. You’ve got to live with it! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’d rather go to jail. I told them I would rather be dead than doing what you are doing now, stealing my computers!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">This is a final battle between the lie, and deceit, and deception, and our survival! And by God we’ve got to get this right! And we are going to get this right. I know we’re going to get it, right!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[33:23]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> All right, a couple of couple of things there, Alfred. Okay, so the first one I feel it’s important to touch on is, of course, the severity of the situation, and explaining that there is a conflict. It’s very difficult to explain to someone who doesn’t see the on-goings of the world as an existential battle. It’s very easy, I think, for people to be at a point where, &#8230; I don’t know what to call it. Like we made it, right? There’s no war, no major wars, no world wars anymore at least. You know, largely in the West, where we’re safe, it’s fine with it’s prosperity somewhat. I know things are bring degraded slowly. But overall, if you just kind of go along to get along, watch the TV, you have access to your cheap calories, as it were. It would seemingly be, “<em><i>everything’s okay</i></em>” right?</p>
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<p>But what people don’t understand, is that underneath all this, including what the globalists are up to, and stuff like that, there is an intense battle going on for the future of this planet! Of both ownership and control, and who’s going to run things, and stuff like that. And we have to try to explain to people that it’s like no! There are people out there that see you as an existential threat, and they want to control you, or manage you, or replace you, or whatever the situation might be for that individual group.</p>
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<p>But there’s people meddling. And it’s at a such a point now when we look at the migrant invasion, and stuff like that. And some of the comments we have from people themselves, that are openly talking about population replacement, and that this is about swamping Europe. We have to get to a point where we realize that it is existential. It is a battle for survival!</p>
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<p>Most Europeans are not at that position yet, because we don’t see it that clearly. It’s still somewhat behind closed doors. It’s only the people there really are looking at the stuff, that are finding the quotes, they’re keeping up with the news and stuff like that. And that’s frankly too much for most normies out there! They go along to get along. They don’t understand that this is a battle.</p>
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<p>So what you’re talking about, when you talk about this intense struggle that’s going on between these different groups, I think is very difficult for them to wrap their heads around it. And I also think, that they think, that it is dangerous — and partially I would agree with them — to, for example, group everyone together as a unit in certain situations. There’s always people who are going to break that mold. There’s other people from the group that will talk against what the group is doing and stuff like that.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[36:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So I see the danger in that. But I believe, and correct me if I’m wrong, but when you were talking about the jewish group, you’re talking about primarily the “<em><i>organized</i></em>”, those who have organized efforts? I mean, there are people like <strong>Gilad Atzmon</strong>, who is jewish, but he talks about the kind of things that we talk about. I certainly have no need to go after him, or some of the people that are on our side, who don’t have a problem with us, right?<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong></span> So there is some clarification that I think could be made for the newcomer there. That is not only about grouping people together, but you’re talking about those who are actively, as an interest group, engaged in replacing us, or bringing in migrants, or openly talking about the kind of things that are, frankly, should be a crime against humanity. But how do you see this, and how do we explain it to people?</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Good. First of all, those people who think everything is fine, there’s no war. No! There’s a war going on right now. We are now in the final phase of the “<em><i>War of the jew</i></em>” to dominate this world. And you have to see what we call “<em><i>World War One</i></em>” and “<em><i>World War Two</i></em>” in this context. And they needed this period of time to get us in the position that we’re in right now. And see, a lot of the jews themselves are also victims of this insanity. But they are acting as a group. And that’s why I say that jews need to understand that they are being coerced, or led, acting as a group. And as such, they will be dealt with as a group, when this healing process begins.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">They are, I’ve often said, those at the top, those top jews actually hate their own people more than they hate us. They are so extremely self-centered and selfish, that they will risk using their own people as a human shield for when the inevitable retribution comes. And they don’t care! And those jews that haven’t personally done anything wrong, they’re just living their lives, they haven’t lied and cheated, like most jews do.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’m sure there’s some out there that are innocent. Now these jews, &#8230; This is a time for them to come out and start to, for example, help get Monika out of prison, okay? This is something they can really put themselves on record as having done, which they will benefit from, when this lie goes over. They can say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Look! Here’s my accountable evidence that I tried to fight for the truth.</i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Any jew that attacks us for being “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” deniers is guilty! And see, this is where even Gilad Aztmon, unfortunately, very recently, he used to claim he’s an “<em><i>ex-jew</i></em>”, but he still had so much jewishness in him, that he actually talked about the “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” as if it were real!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[38:57]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Any mention of the “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” without qualifying it, for the fraud and lie that it is, is making a person guilty! The “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” and anybody who tries to hold that up, is guilty! That’s as simple as I can put it. I mean, I’m not going to be the judge where this thing goes down. The people in the world are going to be judging it. And I’m just saying, I’m doing everything I can. We are trying to resolve this peacefully! And peacefully means we have to face the facts, no matter what they are! We need to, don’t ignore 9/11, because jews did 9/11, and we don’t want to talk about it!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">You know, I notice they’re talking more, a lot about USS Liberty now. But we need to talk about 9/11! We need to talk about Israel! We need to talk about the entire agenda that is being played out against us! Okay? , because the biological response is coming! And that’s what we are witnessing now. If you outlaw bad weather, and I’m the weatherman, and I predict bad weather, what are you going to do? Shoot me, because I’m predicting a storm?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">We’ve got the set up for a perfect storm. We are facing the perfect storm! And we have to prepare ourselves for that. So those people who are sitting on the couch thinking it’s all nice and quiet, &#8230; I crossed the Atlantic on a sailboat a number of times, and before a bad storm, it can be really nice on deck. But if you don’t get ready for it, with your sails, with just everything you have to do it, you will not survive the storm!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We are coming into a storm and when we have masses of people that do not belong to us in our cities, and our infrastructure breaks down, we will have to deal with these people! And dealing with them will not be pretty! , because them going around taking what they want, is not the solution. It’s going to be, too many people on limited territory, with even more limited resources, and this used to be our territory! It used to be our civilisation!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now we have our young people, they don’t even know which gender they are! Now do you understand what I’m getting at?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Now they’re not confused about their gender, because that’s natural, that did not come, you know, as a natural organic kind of development. That came, because they were indoctrinated that way, by the jews! Not by us! By the jews! And that’s something that is a fact. And nobody can dispute that fact. So that’s what we’re facing so, you know, that’s what I think.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah, I think what you said there too is an important point. And I’ve heard others, frame it in that way too. And I believe that there’s something to that. That basically the conditions that have been created, this powder keg condition really, that has been created, is something that people need to be aware of that it’s going to blow up! I’m with you on that page too. I think that if things can be solved peacefully, they should be. They should be addressed and tackled before it gets to that point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But that’s where most people decide to look away. And they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>No, it’s too difficult, it is too painful</i></em>”, or “<em><i>I don’t want to be called a racist for opposing migration.</i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or whatever, despite the fact that they can see with their own eyes and experience in the real world, that things are getting worse in their own country. They’re being sidelined by their own government. Other people are being favored, before them, etc. Like, it’s their duty to save others and take care of others before their own people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[42:31]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, what you’re saying, and what I’ve heard other people say too, is that there’s an awful lot of anger and resentment, because of that. That’s building up, right? That eventually, down the line, if it gets that far, we don’t know where this is going to go. We don’t know if, let’s say the Europeans start fighting back, right? And all of a sudden it turns into, all of Europe turns into a Bosnia, or Kosovo, or something like that, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Let’s assume the rest of the world descends on Europe, and like, cleans it, cleans it out! , because we dared to fight back, against people that are trying to invade our lands. And once they’ve turned really hostile in an open level towards us, or something like that, who knows where this is going to go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But my point is, it should be resolved at this point. It should be addressed at this point, before it gets too far., because when people are realizing what has happened, they are probably going to ask questions:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>Well, how did this happen? And who did this? </i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And these kinds of things, right? So that’s an important step, Alfred, in the process of just recognizing that isn’t it better to try to tackle and address these things now? And to try to prevent just the reaction of anger, and violence, and resentment, to bloom in the world! , because that’s when it really is going to start getting ugly, and you’re not going to be able to straighten anything out at that point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You are not going to be able to make, you know, up, or down of anything, at that point. It’s just the going to be utter chaos! And I don’t want to see that! I know my lot of people don’t want to see that, either! So that’s why we have to address it. We have to be honest about what is going on. Why it’s happening. Who’s doing it<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong></span> and try to straighten it out politically! And with political will, because I still think there is time to do that. We’re not a minority yet, in most of our countries. It’s heading that way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Wait another five, ten years in some countries, and it’s going to start heading in that way. But there’s still time. But it’s an incredibly difficult situation, because when these things have happened historically, if we’re honest about this and look at, you know, World Wars and conflicts on this level, and this scale, there’s always people who don’t deserve something, that have been squeezed in this situation. And they have taken the brunt end of what other people have done. And it’s kind of a messy situation, if, you know, what I mean.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[44:48]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Absolutely! And going back to what you were saying before. Our empathy, or our bad feelings, or our guilt, and so forth, our pathological altruism is being used so against us. And part of the solution is overcoming these words that are triggering unhealthy responses, for example, “<em><i>racist</i></em>”, or “<em><i>anti-semitism</i></em>”. These are weaponized words that should be called out, as “<em><i>marked cards</i></em>” in a card game that we’re playing.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anytime this word comes, stop it in it’s tracks and do never, ever, apologize! , because these are marked cards. If you’re playing a card game, and it’s about life and death, it’s about your future and your existence, and then sometime deep into the game, you realize you are being dealt marked cards, what do you do? I would call these cards out on the spot! And say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>That is a marked card! And explain that one to me! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So when somebody says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Oh! If you do that, you’re a racist! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Pardon me. What are you talking about? What do you mean? Are you telling me that there is no difference between a race horse and a plow horse? Are you telling me, I am a race conservationist? </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I want to conserve the races for what they are. They’re very different and that’s good. I am for multi-culturalism, and if we just sort of mix them all together, it’s a little bit like if I took your body, Henrik. Your bones are too White and hard, your brain is too gray and gooey, your liver is too brown and gooey, so I’m going to put you through the blender. Now I’ve got you multi-culturalized, but you’re very dead! That’s what this multiculturalism is with these people coming in, these hordes is going to do to us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And remember, it was the Europeans that are responsible for well over ninety percent of all technological inventions, that make our life what we know it today. And I’m not talking just about these inventions, I’m talking about music, and all these other things. And if we don’t keep this continent exclusively European, all that will be gone!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, our ancestors would never have achieved what they achieved, because they allowed the hordes out of Africa, or Asia to overwhelm them, because it was a good place to have a free lunch. You see, all these people coming and now, they’re coming here, because it’s a free lunch! They are actually people that are turning their backs on their own people, for a free lunch, at the cost of the Europeans!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now when you see a city like Malmo, or something, and there’s no Swedes left in there anymore, but all kinds of, there’s Muslims all over the place wearing hijabs, and so forth. Hey! That’s a colonization! They have colonized you! Now when your forefathers, the Vikings, I mean, they would roll over it disgust and shame, when they see what’s happened to their offspring! Their little boys are not even sure that they’re boys anymore! That, you know, that they think that this is a joke, or something! It’s not a joke, this is survival!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah, and it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[47:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">And we do not have to, we are not obliged to feel sorry for any of these people. They have their homes! Ask them, why do you turn your back on your own people!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">You’ve something here? Then go back home! You’ve got your place. This is ours! And if you don’t understand what that means? Well see what happens to you if you stick around., because I’ll tell you, if you think the mood is getting bad now, just look around and see where it’s going. It’s not going to get prettier!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> No. That’s just it, and it’s horrendous, you know, that it’s that’s in the direction where it goes to. I still think, you know, I still think that the level of compassion that we have seen in the Indo-European mind, if you will, that we’re the ones who pushed the Human Rights. We’re the ones who came with the aspect of equality and egalitarianism. And although there’s follies in those proposals, those philosophical ideas, or errors in those ideas, I still think that appealing to compassion among our own people is still the successful recipe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I know that there’s a lot of people out there, they’re way beyond that, they’re like, they’re ready to go to war, that kind of thing. They’re pissed off! They’re upset about this. They truly hate in that regard. And that isn’t their fault, they have been pushed in that direction.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But just from a strategy kind of point of view, if that’s the right word to use, I think it was Frank Salter who talked about that. He said, and I think it was a good point, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>You’re not going to initially get the majority of European people to drop the aspect of equality and compassion. But those are elements that you have to work with.</i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You have to steer the conversation, not by coercion, because I think it’s just the truthful past, but you have to show that the long-term picture. That well, due to the compassion and the equality, and all those things that you’re enforcing right now. It is going to turn into a hellish scenario later on! We have to see the long-term picture, not just the short-term gratification that these people feel good, you know, internally, or emotionally. That:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>Oh I did something good today! </i></em>”, or, “<em><i>I help people</i></em>”, or “<em><i>I don’t say no! </i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>I’m pro open borders, and therefore I’m a better person than you! </i></em>” and “<em><i>I’m open hearted and loving.</i></em>” and all that stuff.</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My point is, no! If you truly were open-minded, open hearted and warm, and have compassion in your heart, and thinking about people’s welfare in the future, you would see the big picture and say:</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em><i>No! Wait a minute. This is leading to disaster, and so let’s try to prevent that.</i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I’m what I’m saying, Alfred, is just I think that there’s still an unused, untapped territory within this debate in this topic, where we can try to show to our people that what you’re advocating for, if you’re a liberal, and if you’re open hearted like this. That, that path is going to lead to misery and conflict at the end of it. And if we can show that, there is some hope to turn more people over to our side if, you know, what I mean., because I’m certainly, I don’t come from a perspective of hate, although I understand why some people have become hateful, but I think it’s a very important to still appeal to compassion. Still appeal to the traits within us that are unique, to a certain extent, and that are much more open really, than many other groups around the world. What do you think about?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[51:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah. Since my own awakening and really understanding the absolute lies that have been foisted on us, I have, and you’re talking about love and compassion, I have a love and a compassion, and an understanding, for our ancestors, my parents, their grandparents, and so forth. That I never had before.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And before, when I was still mentally ill, because of the indoctrination. I was a zombie okay, I confess, I was a zombie! There’s nothing shameful about that. We are all zombies at some time. There’s very few people that weren’t. And I did not have that respect, I sort of saw my ancestors as they were sort of anonymous, kind of far away. And now since understanding what they have gone through, as Germans, you know, and the expelling out of the east, the genocide, and so forth. And Dresden, and all these things, I have a compassion and an understanding and respect for them I never knew I had.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And it’s like, I think it was Plato had said, that “<em><i>people without roots have no direction</i></em>”. And you have to understand your forefathers to have roots. These are our roots! And somebody who thinks they’re a good person, because everybody is equal, they’re just believing just total nonsense!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, look at the birds. Are all the birds the same? No. There’s sparrows, there’s seagulls, there’s hawks. There’s all kinds of different birds. They’re not all the same! And neither are we! Have you ever seen a pygmy excel at high jumping? And I haven’t. So they’re not equally see. Now, if Europeans and Africans are the same, why is it that the Africans didn’t even invent so much as the wheel, and we invented all kinds of fancy things? Everything!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When you see Africans walking around now in our cities with the latest iPhone, well good for them. But they didn’t invent those things. They got them given to them by people like George Soros. So, we are not equal! So anybody who says, you know:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Oh, if you think everyone is equal, you’re a better person.</i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I say these people are mentally retarded. They’re mentally crippled. They’re victims of the psychological warfare. They have been contaminated with these lies!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> It’s what is used against us to make sure that we agree with the agenda. They’ve found a kind of code, a mechanism in us, by using our compassion against us, right? They’ve used, to certain extent, our strength against us, and said — it’s not our only strong ability obviously, but it’s a big part of it — and they’ve unlocked that, and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>You know what, let’s twist and turn the situation like this, and say you’re compassionate if you allow XYZ, and that’s kind of, &#8230; It’s like a code that they’ve broken, right?</i></em></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[54:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Yes. They use our strong characteristics and turn them around so elegantly, slowly over a period of time, and then, until we use it against us. Our women are standing some place with “<em><i>Refugees Welcome</i></em>” <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[signs]</strong></span>. That is absolute suicide! In past generations, had any women done that, they would have been flogged! They would have been thrown out of society. They would have been the most disgusting pieces a crap, pardon my language, but that’s what it is.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And here they are being, by the jewish media, they are being held up in high esteem, as the most honorable people! They are doing something treasonous, that is suicidal. And that is our demise! We are not equal! No. Get that idea out of your mind.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We are very different, and that’s good that we’re different. We grew up in different geographies, at different rates, at different times. That’s good, we’re all different, there’s nothing wrong with that, you know. And that’s the reality.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And like I said, when things get tight, and things get scarce, and we understand that we are defending the homeland, and the invaders are defending a free lunch, we have a different motivation to get back what is rightfully ours. And that’s what I’m confident that we’re going to do this right!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right. The last final point on this Alfred, before we start rounding up here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Obviously the migration, the refugee waves, and all that kind of stuff that we’ve seen, it’s a very kind of, “<em><i>in your face</i></em>” and direct assault, an attack. At these for those who are paying attention. Again <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong> </span>many others see this as, “<em><i>oh! I’m helping! </i></em>” you know, it’s like Ralph Wiggum.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But here’s other ways, there’s a cold, if that’s the hot war, so to speak, or a warm war, and there’s a cold war as well. And we just briefly talked about this in the break. For example, what happened in the wake of Charlottesville, stuff like that. A lot of things unfolded after that point. We don’t have to get into all that, it’s a big story. But what triggered that is, of course, that people were basically, they wanted to protest against the removal of statues in the South, for example, in the States. And this is something that happens in many parts of Europe now, as well. The UK have started, I believe Germany is on that path to. Where basically if it’s an old the dead White guy, right, then that needs to be torn down and attacked and stuff like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, just for a moment, maybe we can talk about what an act of, not only violence, but as you say, it’s colonialism. It’s just full on takeover where, you know, the people who built our countries that have given everyone in that country the fruits of what they have, included those newcomers, that have just come in. The utter disrespect and the utter, I just, it’s disgusting! I don’t know what else to call it. The way that they are tearing down these statues, they’re renaming schools, they’re removing our history. They’re just rewriting it as if these men never existed at all! That’s what I feel it’s about. It’s almost like it is sleight of hand of saying, you know, this never existed! There’s no such thing as a White country! It’s like a Jeddi mind trick, or something.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[57:09]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> This is one of the symptoms of the genocide that is being perpetrated against us! See, if we don’t even respect those people who our ancestors knew were real true heroes, like Robert E. Lee was a real true hero! Now when they take any of these statues down we should be out there by the thousands, or the hundreds of thousands, and keep that statue up! And if you take one down, we put at one that’s twice as big, in it’s place! How can anybody respect us if we have such low self-respect, that we allow anybody — the jews are the ringleaders of those people taking these things down — that is our identity. Those are our ancestors! We are all we are all obliged to be even just only half as heroic, and keep that statue up there!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And like I said, they take one down, we to put one twice as big back up, and another one on top! Like we cannot let that happen. That is our genocide!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right! Showing some of the pictures here, this is from Dallas. It’s amazing this has happened, in so many places, around the US, right now. They just take these statues down. Here’s a Robert E. Lee Park in Arlington, in Dallas. It’s just absolutely amazing that these boys here, the cops, the suits, they just line up to defend this action. I don’t think they know truly what they’re doing. But I hope that they’re angry. I hope that some know. I hope that some realize.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Because this is the jew!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>The goyim will be agents, instruments of their own destruction!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When our security people are making sure they can remove these statues, yeah, it’s like saying:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Let me stick this knife into my heart. Let me just kill myself! And let’s have everybody help me kill myself!</em>”</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">This is our suicide! These are real points, this is a real actionable item if you want to say. Taking down a statue like that should not happen! That should be put back in there, no matter how we do it, we have to get the statues back to where they were.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">What are they going to put there in it’s place? A statue of Martin Luther King, you know, this drinking, partying, sex pervert that they stylized up to be our hero and make a national holiday! Taking our ancestors, our heroes that built the country, down, and putting these perverts in their place? Putting some fagot their place? No, no, no! That can’t be it. If we are that weak and cannot prevent that from happening, then we will deserve the demise that we will be facing.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> All right. Interesting conversation. Lot to chew on here, of course. Let’s see what people think. Lots of interesting points, Alfred. I want to thank you for your time today. It was very interesting having you back and, of course, I want to wish you and your sister the best, in the whatever now, is going to happen. The legal battles.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[60:07]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, it’s a is an extraordinary situation, and I urge and I hope, no matter if people agree, or not, with the kind of things that Monika and yourself talk about, that they recognize that this is a clear violation of all the things that they claim that they’re fighting for, for other people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it should be a huge free speech issue! There should be number of people just rallying to this cause, getting vocal and loud about it, making sure that they help Monika out of prison and then that she gets not only fair treatment, but that they explain to her, why they’re holding her, and that she actually can reach out to you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, is there anything, last words you like to say about, if you guys have a strategy, legally, to get her out, or what?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">The strategy is there’s no way to get her out legally! We’re going to get her out with pure pressure! People writing letters. Write her letters make sure that, you know, you see through their lies. The address, it’s in multiple blogs. Go to the “<strong><em>We are Monika</em></strong>” blog and the address is there. Write, the political prisoner <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong>, and so forth. You don’t have to write much. Just say, we’re thinking of you, and thanks for your struggle.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/how-you-can-help-monika-schaefer-cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16919" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/how-you-can-help-monika-schaefer-cover.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="774" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">See: <a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/01/14/andrew-hitchcock-with-alfred-schaefer-how-you-can-help-monika-schaefer-transcript/">Andrew Hitchcock with Alfred Schaefer – How YOU Can Help Monika Schaefer! — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And we are at war with insanity! Okay? This is a war against thinking, working, people. And if we don’t win, then this earth is going to become a hell hole! So we are trying to basically save civilization, we’re going to do this as peacefully as possible as possible in a civilized way as possible. And jews have the opportunity now to prove that they are actually not guilty, by making an effort to get Monika out! Write a letter, you know, say and write that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>I’m a jew and I will I think it’s not right and the “</em><em><i>Holocaust</i></em>”, I’m sorry that we’re part of this monstrous lie.”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That would be a good start and can be very good in your defence when this lie goes over.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I would not want to be a jew at this point in time, if I didn’t do something to help bring the truth out! And that’s about all I can say at this point. Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Sure, you got it! So there’s the address anyway right there on the screen, but it’s a video right there on the link to the website, that will leave down below, as well. So check that out folks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you so much Alfred for coming on. Keep us posted on in terms of what’s going on. I’m really interested in following the case, and I wish you and your sister all the best. And thank you for daring to speak your truth and following through on it. I know that there’s tremendous pressure involved in that. I know it’s incredibly difficult but, you know, for you guys to dare to walk your own path, that’s an extraordinary thing to do in these times of conformity. So thank you Alfred.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Thank you Henrik. Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Well guys, that concludes our show. A big “<em>Thank You</em>” to all our members. We are really picking up the frequency of shows and videos, and <em><strong>Weekend Warrior</strong></em> shows.</p>
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<p>Once again, we’re really excited about this year. A lot of good things are in the works and a lot of exciting things are going to happen. We have a lot of plans. So thank you for being part of Red Ice for supporting us for helping us to grow. Take care folks and we’ll be back before you know it! See you soon.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Henrik of Red Ice Radio interviews Canadian-German activist Alfred Schaefer on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust&#8220;. In Part &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/02/04/red-ice-tv-thought-criminal-monika-schaefer-arrested-and-imprisoned-in-germany-part-1-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<strong>Henrik</strong> of <strong>Red Ice Radio</strong> interviews Canadian-German activist <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong> on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>&#8220;. In Part 1 here, Alfred explains the intellectual journey that both of them took to arrive at the position that Western Civilization is being destroyed by organized jewry through a long term strategy of psychological </span><span style="color:#008000;">and physical subversion, with them, for example, being the power behind the invasion of Western countries by non-Whites.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Part of the subversion of Whites has been achieved through the diabolical lie known as the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; that is used by organized jewry as a &#8220;<em>shield and sword</em>&#8221; to draw attention away from its massive crimes against humanity, such as the instigation of the World Wars, 9/11, etc., while also instilling guilt and shame in Whites for their very existence.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred is a tireless and impassioned &#8220;<em>man on a mission</em>&#8221; to alert all to the reality of our dire situation and the forces behind our looming racial and cultural destruction, if we fail to act! I would urge all readers to support Alfred in his work and to help him in exposing the Orwellian situation that his sister, Monika, finds herself in as a &#8220;<em>thought criminal</em>&#8220;, now locked up in a maximum security prison in Germany —<strong> KATANA</strong>.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"> Alfred Schaefer is a German producer whose videos are aimed at exposing the propagandistic nature of the mainstream media. His videos outline how the hostile elite that are in control of much of Western Civilization have managed to subjugate entire populations and their political leadership through psychological conditioning.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Alfred Schaefer joins Henrik for a discussion about the consequences of challenging the accepted view of the Holocaust. The program begins with Alfred describing what it was like to grow up in Canada with German ancestry amid an accusatory climate of Holocaust remembrance. He describes his sister Monika’s newly found skepticism of the prevailing historical view of the Second World War and her subsequent video productions. Alfred recounts how Monika was arrested in Munich because of her videos that challenged the prevailing mainstream consensus concerning the Holocaust while attending the trial of Sylvia Stolz, a lawyer on trial for so-called Holocaust denial. Henrik and Alfred discuss with incredulity how pursuing historical inquiry can lead to criminal charges and imprisonment.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">In the members’ hour, Henrik and Alfred talk about the fractured nature of facts surrounding the nature of the Holocaust itself and the need for further research. The conversation then addresses the migrant crisis and how it constitutes a threat to Western civilization and how it can be viewed as a destructive companion phenomenon to Holocaust guilt and other Leftist propaganda. The conversation turns to the freefall of the mainstream media, how people crave alternative media sources, and the importance of outlets like Red Ice. Henrik speaks to the risk involved with pursing the truth about the migrant crisis, its origins, and underlying motivators. The discussion then turns to the seeming contradictions of population replacement.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Henrik and Alfred go on to discuss the severity of the current geopolitical situation as an existential crisis; the importance of pursuing moderate solutions to avoid widespread conflict; and much more.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Welcome ladies and gentlemen. Henrik here with Red Ice TV. Thank you so much for tuning in. It’s always a pleasure having you with us. Today we have a issue of free speech coming to you a little bit over a year ago we had a gentleman called Alfred Schaefer on the show. I think we had him on twice actually, and his sister as well, Monika. We did a show with her. She had actually done a five-minute video that was called, “<em><strong>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the “<em>Holocaust</em></strong>”. </em>Which was a very good video. It was an honest, very down-to-earth video about her own kind of personal and emotional experiences growing up in Germany <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Canada]</strong></span>, all the things that she was taught, etc. And<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[01:01]</strong> </span>her basically waking up to a kind of a different story, if you will.</p>
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<p>And this has, in hindsight, caused a ruckus not only, of course, in Canada where she and Alfred was living, but now they’ve gone back to Germany. And they’re it’s, you know, this has intensified, if you will. So we have Alfred back with us on the show here today. And I shall go through some of this and talk a bit more in detail about what actually happened. And I want to Alfred. Welcome first of all, but I want everyone, kind of don’t assume that people know the case. Let’s talk about it from the beginning and what actually happened Alfred.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Good. I’ll just go back to the summer of 2016. Monika was here with Professor Tony Anthony Hall and we did a number of video productions. And what really rocked the boat here was a five, or six minute video that Monika did, one in German, one in English. It’s called “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em>”. And in this video, a very heartfelt video, she explained how she<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[02:02]</strong></span> growing up in Canada as a German. And how the propaganda, when we started being indoctrinated with the propaganda, the people in school like back at that time, the Germans were vilified, really vilified, to the max!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That was like twenty years after, well that was in the 60s so that was 20 years after the end of hostilities, of what we call World War Two. And Monika described how she experienced that as a youngster in school, when she wore her traditional German dress and how the people mocked her. And then she started reproaching, to she eventually reproached our parents, particularly her our mom, for what the evil Nazis did., because when you are told as a little child these kinds of stories you just assume that you’re being told the truth, you just would not imagine that you would be lied to by those people who you trust who you look up to.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anything they tell you believe it. I mean, that’s our nature. If you’re growing up and your parents tell you to this, or that you have to believe it, because if you don’t you wouldn’t survive. If your parents tell you don’t go jumping in that pond, because there’s alligators there and you don’t listen, well you get eaten by the alligators. So it’s our nature, our inherent nature to believe what we are told.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And this has been used against us to inculcate us and indoctrinate us with these stories which vilify our own ancestry, our own heritage. So Monika went to her mom and she says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Mom why didn’t you do something to stop these evil Nazis?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so forth. And then later on, not that long ago, she figured out, “<em>well geez this is all lies</em>”. And she told me that once and I says:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So we did that. She wrote a beautiful text. She was here on a visit and she gets in front of the <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[04:01]</strong></span> camera and we made this video, “<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And it got it really took off well. And then the Israeli, the jews got wind of it. And it was all over the Israeli press it in multiple languages. They were just really:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And what really shook them, rattled their cage, was there had not been a video of this kind before, where you’re really basically undoing so much of the psychological warfare they have done against us. And this was basically undoing it in one big swoop.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So they were very nervous about that. And they tore her to pieces! And vilified her! And then when Monika went back to Jasper <strong>[Alberta, Canada]</strong>, she had to endure the most extreme ritual defamation you could possibly imagine. And thank God that Monika has <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[05:00]</strong> </span>the spirit that she does, because not many people would have survived that. I mean, she basically lost pretty much all her violin students, and people were strongly:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>No! You’re not welcome here!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">It was just like the witch trials 300 to 400 years ago. Just amazing.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah! Exactly! That’s absolutely true and it’s amazing that of course, you know, we don’t even have to get into the mechanics of what it is that Monika actually believes. It’s the audacity that she has come to a different conclusion that other people, than the masses, than the majority. I mean, I we know, of course, that this is punishable a crime in many countries now to think differently about a historical event.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Which is amazing and it amazing that so few free speech activists come out in support of these people who have come to a different conclusion. And in it’s in this case I think they want to make an example, not only out of her, but we know other scenarios in Germany, like <strong>Sylvia Stolz</strong>, of course. And I forget the older lady’s name now, obviously you, you know.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: <span style="color:#0000ff;">Ursula Haverbeck</span></strong>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[06:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly. Haverbeck. Thank you. Yes absolutely. So they’ve gone after older women on this now in Germany! I mean, it’s absolutely fascinating., but tell us first, how did, &#8230; Was in Canada did you guys decide to go back to Germany what happened there?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> Y<span style="color:#0000ff;">eah she came she was wondering, she wanted us to, you know, we wanted to connect up again and she has a lot to do in Canada, so she figured sort of on the spur of the moment, she’s gonna go visit Alfred in Germany now at Christmastime. So she gets on the plane, you know, hops over here, and we have just a wonderful time. And I told my comrades here, you know, Monika’s coming and so forth. And then Henry Hoffenmayer says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Hey, we can go visit the trial of Sylvia Stolz, which is a Munich on the 3rd of January, if your sister’s here. We’ll just have a look at that.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So it’s real spur-of-the-moment decision. We went there, we go there as quiet observers. And watching these proceedings was beyond bizarre. It really is an inquisition! They would refer we<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[07:02]</strong> </span>were sitting in the back there, then in comes Sylvia Stolz and her attorney. And at the front are this decrepit snake of a state prosecutor, and the other people that are in there, which are, you know </span><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Alfred laughs]</strong>.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then if Sylvia Stolz and her attorney would be, you’re talking about like explaining things, you know, this and that. And no matter how logically and precise they would explain something, the state prosecutor would brush it aside with just a simple, you know, “<em>jibber-jabber</em>” that didn’t even make sense. So this is the nature of an inquisition. An inquisition is like in the old days. They would put you in a sack, throw you out in the water, and if you sank you were innocent. And if you stayed on top, you are guilty and will be tortured. You cannot win in an inquisition. And these trials are an inquisition. There is no hope in hell and they try to bind these people<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[08:00]</strong> </span>in this legal process here. To drain them of all their resources, tie them up.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, if you see these people, how much money they are being paid by the taxpayer and by the poor victim! And it goes days and days and they just, it’s a jibber-jabber nonsense. It’s utter destructive nonsense!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anyway, we were in that courtroom there and somebody behind us, or beside her, somewhere, said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh that must be Monika Schaefer! I mean, that’s her, we recognize her.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so they called for a surprise break about 45 minutes into the hearings there. And so we says okay, we stretch our legs, go outside. We step outside the room and then this different state prosecutor comes, accompanied by three very heavily, well armed thugs, kind of thing. And they asked her:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Are you Monika Schaefer? Okay, come over here.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">They took her to the side and they were talking with her, slapped her<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[09:01]</strong> </span>in handcuffs and dragged her off.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik:</strong> Right there?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Right there and then! Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik:</strong> Absolutely! Did you get, I mean, did you guys have any suspicions about this, or like?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">No, no! It was a total surprise.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik:</strong> Not paranoid to show up in public like, after that?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> And the funny thing is, I thought okay they must have, they probably arrested her for things that we had done while she was here., because we had a guy come from France, another, you know, a guy who was, well I hate using the word “<em>revisionist</em>”, a person exposing historical truth. And he came here, because he felt so alone there in Paris.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And when he was here, and he played the accordion, a really good accordion a player. And so Monika and him were making music every day. We were just doing cultural things. And one day we went to Andechs</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[a hilltop Benedictine monastery, church &amp; medieval pilgrimage center with a brewery &amp; a beer garden]</strong></span><span style="color:#0000ff;">, which is a monastery nearby here with a beautiful beer garden and so forth. And we’re in this beer hall and then the brass band came in and it’s pretty filled up with people.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And Monika was</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[10:01]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">just so elated with energy, she stood up and gave the Roman salute!</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[both laughing]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">And, you know, what happened? Well somebody else behind her gave the Roman salute! And nobody came and, you know, and says, “<em>Hey you Nazis!</em>”, or anything. And people were chuckling and sort of, “<em>Oh, what’s going on here?</em>” But people were giving us a thumbs up and so forth.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then, when she was arrested then a few days later at the court, at the &#8220;<em>inquisition</em>&#8221; of <strong>Sylvia Stolz</strong>, I was sure it was for this incident! , but it wasn’t. It was actually for “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the “</em><em>Holocaust</em>”. So with this, I say this is the most spectacular “<em>own goal</em>” that I have ever seen anybody make! I mean, Sylvia Stolz, they were trying to basically put her, flush her down the memory hole. And they’d love it if Monika would just disappear., but now they have elevated both of these courageous women, right onto center stage on the world stage. And that’s where we need them.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now this might be some discomfort for Monika for a while., but</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[11:02]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">the week that we had here before this happened, she had her batteries charged up to the max with wonderful dialogues we had. The conversations we had. With the cultural events with the Roman salute at <strong>Andechs</strong> there. And the positive feedback she got from that. So it’s good.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now she knows, she’s very well aware of the importance of the role that she is in right now. And there’s no resolving this in their “<em>jewdicial</em>” system. We to resolve this on the political level. So we are going to amplify this and make it make it as embarrassing as possible for the powers that be. They need to know it is time to come out with a White flag and apologize for all these lies, because they cannot possibly stop it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">There’s trying to stop it with extreme censorship here. Oh, let me just say one thing. When Monika came here and before her arrest, and she’s doing her her mail, or emails</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[12:00]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">and we’re looking a lot on the internet, and she says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Geez, I feel like I’m in prison already everything! Is censored!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">All the stuff that she could still see in Canada, like videos and so forth, it’s all blocked here. It’s extreme censorship right now. And it’s accelerating. It’s intensifying. So they think, in their hubris, that they can keep the lies covered by censoring., but I always say, if you have a small child at home and you say, “<em>do not look in this drawer here!</em>” And then you go out of the room, where’s the first drawer that the person’s got the child’s going to look in? Precisely that drawer they’re not supposed to look. This is human nature and this our curiosity. And I mean, it’s our nature. We want to know what’s going on around us.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly. Well I mean, the important thing to remember too is, of course, that this is not hurting anyone. This is a victimless crime and it’s a personal investigation, if you will, that someone is doing into a historical event. It’s their choice, it’s not<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[13:01]</strong></span>, you know, hurting anyone else.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the fact is that I mean, we know that in Germany this has been made a crime. And I believe that, if I recall the statutes correctly, was basically it has been established by law what the history is. And if you do come with a different conclusion then you’re breaking that law of the established history. And so what has she found out consequently? Are you in communication with her every day, every other day, and what’s the charges and stuff like this? Tell us about that?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Okay, first of all, we are trying to communicate with her. It is not possible. She is completely isolated from the outside world now. She’s not isolated from the other inmates, but she is completely isolated from us and the outside world. We had the Canadian Consulate go there and that was a not easy to get that arranged. But the Canadian Consulate did go there. Actually, as a woman and a man, a consul and the Consul General, or something like that.</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[14:00]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then they said afterwards:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well now, we were there and now we cannot visit her again for six months.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That’s the rules they have. And they cannot get involved in the legalities. So it’s basically, well this is a dark time in our history, right now, that this is happening.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> And will Canada fight for it? I mean, if she’s not been extradited, &#8230; But how can she end up under the jurisdiction of German law? They haven’t explained this, I would reckon? They just snatched her, and that’s it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">They snatched her! This is a completely illegal thing! This is outside of law and order as we know it. And, you know, I’ll tell you how obscene this whole thing has become. I was just raided a couple days ago, again, and it is, because of the shitstorm that we’re stirring up with Monika’s arrest. So they’re really unhappy now. But it shows that we’re on the right track, because even uncle Adolf, or Adolf Hitler, he used to say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>If the jews are not attacking you, it’s, because your work is mediocre. It’s not really doing much.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[15:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Once they notice you and they start attacking you, it’s, because they are afraid that you are making inroads into their construct of lies. So yeah, that’s where we are now.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> What about Canada? Have they as you said, okay they visited the consulate there, but have they not tried to say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#333333;">“<em>Hey this is a Canadian citizen! You can’t just take him!</em>” right?</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> No! If you look at the Canadian government, they are even more repulsive and they are even lower down than the German government. All of our governments in the Western world right now are about as low as they can get! And that’s a problem now, because they have all been maneuvered into the positions that they find themselves in, because of their corrupt morals. They can be manipulated and they will do as their jewish masters expect them to! And no Canadian government, no German government, no government is going to help her!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[16:01]</strong><br />
</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">This is something that we have to resolve basically from the bottom. From just a massive awareness. And right now, Monika is one of the most valuable fulcrums that we have to leverage this message out there. Because even those who think that life consists of sitting on a couch watching TV, even some of these zombies will start to understand that when they take somebody, throw her in jail, just arrest her on the spot, throw her in jail, because of a heartfelt apology to her mother!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">At the same time that these hordes and hordes of military-age black and brown men, like a tsunami of them, are flowing into our countries, and they get a free pass to do anything they want! They even get helpers to show them how to get this and get that from our society! They get benefits and somebody who comes to the logical conclusion, because they’ve looked at the evidence they get thrown in jail</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[17:00]</strong></span>. <span style="color:#0000ff;">That is something that needs to be addressed. And this is something that will affect each and every one of us. Nobody is going to escape this imbalance that we have in our system right now.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah definitely. There’s a legal inconsistency for sure here. I mean, there are actually victims of rape, etc., that are not getting the aid of the law. The full reach of the law, if you will. There are many people that actually walk free. I’ve heard cases, Lana <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Henrik’s co-host and wife]</strong></span> did a video just a couple of weeks ago about a few of these cases, where they walk free. And I think some of the judges have said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Well they, it’s a cultural, they don’t understand the culture. They just need to be educated, basically.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they there let go! But the point is, that’s a clear crime with a victim. In this case, there’s no victim. No one is being hurt. But maybe someone is “<em>offended</em>” by it, right? Because these are awful opinions to have, or whatever. But there’s no victim here! And so the imbalance is just completely out of whack. And it’s clear to me that<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[18:00]</strong> they’re making examples out of these women to make sure that people are scared away from not only looking at this stuff, but basically they should be afraid of thinking for themselves. That’s ultimately what this is about I feel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’ve picked off on this issue because, of course, it’s very important to them for people to be guilt-ridden, and basically have this new theology of guilt and victimhood. And this is the choice, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Absolutely! Now there’s so many facets to this “<em>Holocaust</em>” lie. And right now I think it’s important that I focus all my work now on trying to articulate the big picture. I know Monika, when she was here, we came to the same conclusions. That once you understand the big picture, that the components of this big picture are much easier to understand. And they all make sense! It all falls into place!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s a little bit like if you’re standing really close to a huge picture, like a billboard, and you can only just see the big pixels, or something that</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[19:00]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">are this big and you cannot make any sense out of each of these pixels. But when you stand back and see the whole picture, it all makes sense. And this “<em>Holocaust</em>” thing, you know, some people think it’s just a scam for money. No, no, that’s just gravy that they sort of managed to harvest at this point in time.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But the real, or original purpose of the “<em>Holocaust</em>” was to divert attention away from the massive genocides that took place behind what was, what we used to call the Iron Curtain, under the name of communism. Now for us growing up in the West back then and when that Iron Curtain was still in place. What was behind the Iron Curtain separated us, we were the good people and the democrats, from the evil people. And those were the communists!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now that’s the way that situation was interpreted for us. And it’s only now, in recent times, actually, quite recently for myself and like my sister Monika, and many other people, that we are beginning to</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[20:01]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">understand that both sides of this Iron Curtain were run by Talmudic jews, right from the start.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And as so if we want to understand the jewish problem, we have to actually go back, you know, for today’s world, basically to the French Revolution. But the jewish problem actually goes back thousands and thousands of years. And these people have honed their skills in manipulating people, having them at each other’s throats, that they start killing each other off. And the jew is there, controlling both sides, cleaning up and then penetrating ever deeper into the fabric of these peoples that have been at each other’s throats. And that’s what we see now.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Under communism there were genocides on the other side that killed tens of millions, possibly over a hundred million people, of the best people. And most of these were our brothers and sisters, our European kinfolk! They were just like us!</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[21:01]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">And they were butchered, massacred most brutally and — what better way to divert attention away from that, than this crazy “<em>Holocaust</em>” story? Plus, they had to have a way to justify — what they called the Allies, our European people that they manipulated — to bomb the hell out of the heart of Europe, which was Germany. To make sure that they could understand why they did it when they saw the mayhem, by vilifying those people that now lay traumatized and genocided and on the ground.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Just start making making up fantastic crimes and they are too traumatized to be able to defend themselves. And that’s, in a nutshell, what this “<em>Holocaust</em>”, the purpose that it has been.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now it’s used to keep us — to destroy our ability to defend ourselves, plus it gives the jew a shield behind which he can perpetrate and commit any crime he wants to. And that’s where we find ourselves.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[22:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Now there might be people watching, listening, that don’t kind of know the arguments that you’ve made. They don’t, or agree, or whatever. I’m sure there’s some that are as well. But what I want them to understand is basically, I want them to put it into context, into other events, other similar, as you say, genocides throughout history.</p>
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<p>I believe that there’s no other genocide that has occurred that you could be prosecuted for claiming that it didn’t happen. This is, it’s a very unique case, if you will, historically speaking. About what you’re allowed and not allowed to do. And as we know, as I’ve said many times, it’s, of course, worse in Germany, but I just I don’t understand why many of the free speech activists are not coming out in support of people like <strong>Monika</strong>, and <strong>Sylvia</strong>, and <strong>Haverbeck</strong>, and all these other women, and men too, for that matter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s many men as we know, <strong>Ernst Zündel</strong> passed away not too long ago, of course, he was a big hero, also a Canadian<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[23:01]</strong> </span>citizen. He was, I believe, he was also extradited to Germany and was put in prison there. So this Canada-German relationship is kind of historically there as well in this case. But there should be much more uproar about this. I mean, what about Monika’s civil rights? What about her abusers? What about her her right to think differently? And I mean, and that’s what I want people primarily to focus on. And if they disagree with you Alfred on the historical issue, put that to the side for now, and just think of the case itself, and what it represents.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because as you say, this is a witch trial! It is that these people have been demeaned and dehumanized, right? And wasn’t that a crime that they’ve said the Nazis did? They dehumanized people and all that kind of stuff? So in a way they’re doing exactly the same thing in depriving people’s right and freedom, because they think differently. And this should be a free speech issue. And why isn’t it? Why is it that no one dares to <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[24:01]</strong> </span>touch this, or what is it, do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">I’ll tell you why people are not speaking up. It’s, because this indoctrination that we have all been victims of, has the same effect on our ability to think as does a lobotomy. Now a lobotomy is when they used to separate the two halves of your brain physically. And they would make out of what they would call violent criminals in the prison system, or something, they’d make them into docile zombies. Because they’d separate the two brain halves.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now this psychological warfare that we have all become victims of to some degree, or the other, has the same effect on us as does this lobotomy. It compartmentalizes your thinking, so that you are not able to think anymore and you have been conditioned to behave like a dog, like Pavlov’s dog.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, that’s where this whole psychological science basically comes from. They wanted to know how we can condition people to behave, to obey in lockstep altogether. And these people are experts at <strong>[25:00]</strong> that. And that’s what they’ve done! We have been conditioned. Actually, our fellow human beings have been conditioned to have an allergic reaction, an aggressive, allergic reaction against those people who reveal the truth. Because as soon as you talk about the facts, the evidence that this “<em>Holocaust</em>” is all bunk, then you are immediately labeled as a “<em>Nazi</em>”, or a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And we have been taught, through conditioning, that these things are “<em>evil</em>”! So people have been reduced really to, like little children that you can tell them there’s a some kind of a monster, or something, or don’t look under your bed, there’s a golem, or something there. They have reduced us to a very, very low state.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">At the same time, they are telling us about tolerance, and if you want to be a little girl and you’re actually a boy, you can do that and nobody can tell you otherwise. So they’re getting the people confused, full</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[26:02]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">of fear, confused, and reduced to the most basic animalistic level. And they say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well, if they’re throwing old women in jail for years and years for “</em><em>Holocaust</em>” denial, then obviously, they must be really bad!”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like, this is how simple their thinking is.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> But now, as they see the reality of our world in free fall, in collapse, imploding, there’s more and more people that are beginning to understand that life does actually consist of much more than “<em>fun and games</em>”. And these fun and games that we have been indulging in, were the distraction to keep us away from seeing what has been going on behind the scenes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now taking us into these times right now. Look at 9/11! They don’t even talk about 9/11 at all anymore! In any way, good, or bad, or anything! Because they know that everybody’s figured that one out. So they figure, if we just don’t talk about it at all, it’ll disappear out of our memory</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[27:01]</strong></span>. <span style="color:#0000ff;">Because if it’s not covered on TV and radio, or in the magazines, people won’t see it. And they just think it’s not important, because it’s not talked about.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But they do talk about all the time about:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh how wonderful when these black men can mate with the White women!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And all the advertising is reflecting that. So yeah, we have to wake up to the biological aspect of the situation in which we find ourselves. And that is basically, in a nutshell, the jew has declared war on the White race! And we are now at five minutes before 12!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We have to wake up! Understand what’s happening, and come into the healing mode.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And when I see what’s going on in the world today, we are now in that initial phase of the healing. And no organism can heal, until it understands that it’s under attack, identifies the problem and</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[28:01]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">only then can it kick into gear and do something about it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s why I am optimistic. And I see that, what they’ve done to Monika, they served us that on a silver platter! And I can only say, “<em>thanks jews!</em>” You did a fine job! If the doctor had to prescribe something for us that would have been perfect for helping our cause, then this would have been it! We would have had to pay millions of dollars in advertising to get this kind of exposure to this problem. And they’ve given it to us at the trial of <strong>Silvia Stolz</strong>, and I want to say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Thanks jews! You did a good job!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> I wonder what, normal, so to speak, “<em>normies</em>” think about the case if and when they hear about it. And, as we can see obviously in some of the headlines, she’s already a convicted “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier. Although there hasn’t been a trial, the issue hasn’t been, you know, stated. It hasn’t been sorted out. What does she actually believe historically? It is <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[29:00]</strong> </span>like this, literally like she has some kind of, you know, virus, or parasite! That she’s become smitten with this thing, which they need to keep it at a distance, kind of thing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s how they treat people these days. Just as you said, despite the preachment of the times is really, you know, accept those who think differently and you shouldn’t be afraid of the things you don’t understand, and all this kind of stuff. And I’m just so sick and fed up with the hypocrisy of what they’re trying to push in our faces! To get us to accept the kind of things that we don’t like! Of course, we have to be tolerant, we have to, &#8230; But they don’t have to be tolerant at all! See, they don’t have to back down and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Okay, it’s fine. She’s not hurting anyone. Let her believe what she wants to.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Right? No! Instead they want to make a case out of her! They want to jail her and stuff.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what do you think is gonna happen next? I know this is very difficult for you to predict, if you will, or kind of project, but you have<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[30:00]</strong></span> been raided. There’s been people coming into your home. Tell us a little bit about that, and if there’s been any information shared with you at that point, about what actually is going on, and what they’re seeking to do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> They are in a panic, because they see their work, they’ve worked like, how many long, 2,000 years, or something, for world domination? They feel they’re so close to it, they can finally, it’s within a reach. But the closer they get, the closer they have this, the more insane they go!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s what we’re witnessing now. And there is no stopping the truth anymore! And you’re just talking about before, you know, there’s a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier. People have to understand that anybody who still believes in this utter bullshit nonsense, will not be taken seriously. And in only a very, very short time from now, not one person in our civilization will admit that they ever believed this “<em>Holocaust</em>” nonsense!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And yet, like I was in Canada in the summer on a speaking tour, and I just saw the hysteria! Everything seems to revolve around if someone’s a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier, or not, or</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[31:00]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">if there are a White supremacist, or a racist. And that’s all that counts! Nothing else seems to matter.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">You know, people are living in a fantasy world that is a bubble, that’s going to burst! And they have to start to understand the reality of what’s going on around them, because that’s all we’ve got! Now, if we have hordes and absolute hordes of Third World criminals out of the prison systems, of the Third World, coming into our countries, we have to deal with them when everything breaks down. And that’s coming.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the jew World Order that they’re trying to impose on us is this ridiculous “<em>Holocaust</em>” religion, and you’re supposed to go down on your knees and pray to that every day. And at the same time you are going to be disenfranchised. You are going to be running in your little hamster wheel. And then you’re so exhausted at the end of the day, you lay down, sit in front of the TV, eat poisonous food, drink poisonous water, and then get back in your hamster wheel, and the jew World Order’s controlling everything.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s what the whole thing is with</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[32:00]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">the EU and everything. They try to make more and more laws that are making it ever more difficult for the small, you know, the bakeries, the small shop owners, the small farmers, to make it to make it so they cannot operate anymore, because they got a million rules! Always more rules making it ever more difficult for them to operate, so that eventually everything is just huge, great big, collectivized, you know, food productions, factories. And everybody will find their place somewhere as an insignificant little little grain of sand in this huge apparatus. And as soon as you step out of line, you will simply be shut off! You say the wrong word, they’ll just shut off your digital code and that’s it, you can die.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now the jews actually think they can replace us, who created the civilization, and have these lower IQ people flooding in. Get rid of us, so they’re not threatened anymore. And it’s just a complete total insanity. If we don’t deal with it, then we will actually find ourselves exterminated!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[33:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But, I always say the Europeans have always excelled best when they have been forced to survive, because of harsh conditions. And when this breaks down, we will find ourselves in extremely harsh conditions that today would seem unimaginable, but that will be the test of fire. We survive, or we die! We swim, or we sink! And that’s what we’re facing. And I believe that when these times come, that’s when we will find our true purpose and meaning in life and we will deal with the parasites and the invaders.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Interesting. I want to return to that a little bit later, maybe in the second part of the show., but let let’s deal with this issue here. This article, The Times of Israel, states the following:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Authorities say Monika Schaefer is suspected of spreading hate material on the Internet.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Right? And in the beginning I played the video and, of course, I saw, Alfred. It’s on your<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[34:01]</strong> </span>channel. I’m surprised it hasn’t been taken down, but it has obviously been put in a limited state so people can’t see, or quarantine, as they call it, right? There’s no comments, you can’t see how many views there are, and all this kind of stuff. Has Monika actually, I mean, is this the only video they’re referring to? Or does she have a website herself and released other material, or is it just this video, do you think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> This video is the one that really rattled their cage. And I’m glad they are sort of focusing on this video, because it is the best shortest piece of material that undoes so much of their psychological warfare, that we have been victimized with. You have to understand the psychological warfare, how it’s a very incremental process and it’s a trans-generational incremental process.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I’ll go a little bit off-topic here, just to illustrate what I’m talking about.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Now if you took any one of our grandparents, or<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[35:01]</strong> </span>great-grandparents, and if they have to see how their ten-year-old boys are being taught in school. That they can cut off their penis and become a girl, they can be anything they want, our great-grandparents would have gone to that school with their pitchforks, or something! Would have speared that teacher, dragged him outside, strung them up in a tree! And no other teacher would ever dare to do that again! , because they still had healthy morals. And nobody with healthy morals would tolerate ten-year-olds, the most vulnerable of our people, the children being taught anal sex in school, and they can be any gender they want.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s what they have brought us down to! Now the only reason that the parents are not doing that now is, because these parents have been completely demoralized. And their parents were already partially demoralized. So it goes little step by step, incrementally. And Monika’s videos, “<em>Sorry Mom I was wrong about the Holocaust</em>” basically reverse engineers this<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[36:01]</strong> </span>psychological warfare. Because she confesses that she actually reproached our mother for not doing something against those “<em>evil Nazis</em>”! And my mom says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well, we couldn’t! We never heard anything about that! We just didn’t know. We never saw that.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So here we have, our mom was honest, Monika was honest, and this was the heartfelt apology to her spirit, since she was already deceased. Our mother was deceased. Now the jews have gotten a little bit too greedy. If they would have done this all over a longer period of time, maybe they would have gotten away with it., but they just got too greedy! And that’s what the jews always do.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like now, I mean, look at what they’re doing now. They’re going crazy with the censorship! , but every time I see censorship happen, it always seems to come back, those indestructible weeds of historical truth come up stronger and more robust than ever before! And that’s what I say is going to happen now. YouTube wants to go into censorship? Well YouTube’s assigning it’s own death warrant! YouTube is just gonna go out of <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[37:00]</strong> </span>business. Who’ll go to YouTube, who’ll go to Facebook if they’re gonna start playing nonsense like that?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We’re not stupid! Don’t take us for fools! The “<em>Holocaust</em>” is over! If I was a jew, I’d be coming out with a White flag, right today. I wouldn’t waste another day. And if I was a jew, I’d help to get Monika out of prison., because if you jews are going to stonewall and pretend you don’t know, or, you know, a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier is evil, you guys are signing your very own death warrant! The noose is around your neck. And every every day of resistance, going forwards the noose tightening around your neck! So just get over it. Come out with your White flag.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Now, I think you told us earlier that you were the one who was talking with Monika, showing her a different side of the story, and kind of awakening her to, you know, to some of the stuff that she talked about. Have you, and it’s more of a personal question, but do you regret doing that, considering the situation she’s in?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Oh no! No!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> And I don’t mean that in a bad way. I’m just saying, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah, I understand completely. I’ll tell you, when people, at the beginning, they would say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Monika! How could you let these bad people influence you like that!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Monika would say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>No, no! Nobody ‘influenced’ me.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I was waking up, and it started about 10 years after <strong>9/11</strong>, I started waking up to what actually happened on 9/11. And I sent these this information to all my family members. And Monika was the only one who always came up with the right question. She’ll say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh! Where did you get that? How do you know? Prove it! Like how do you know? Where’d you get that?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the other ones would kind of like, do like most zombies do, they kind of click it away. They just delete it, or something. They don’t want to look there. I mean, you know, when people delete that and put it away, it reminds me of a small child that covers it’s eyes and says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Now you can’t see me!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">They’re fooling themselves! We are all, we all have to confront the reality and truth! And Monika always came with the <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[39:00]</strong> </span>right question. She was basically getting up to speed parallel with me, and she’s helped me with stuff, I’ve helped her with stuff. I might have, you know, kick-started her with the 9/11 stuff at the beginning, but she did not resist and she came right up to speed. And we’ve been a team, we’ve been partners in this struggle ever since.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Hmm. Yeah, that’s good. And, of course, as one of the other articles, I think was from “<em>Vice</em>”, of course, they detailed that she was a former Green Party member. She had, I guess she had a lot of people on the Left. And she might have even come from a leftist perspective herself. In the beginning, kind of initially. So I can imagine how difficult it must have been for her when it started, when she started losing her classes <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[violin]</strong> </span>and things like that in the school in Jasper, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And all the people, did they come after her, or did they just kind of drop her as a hot potato? How were her relationships at that point when it started coming out?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Okay. You started saying about she was a <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[40:00]</strong> </span>leftist. You know, I, we were all leftists! I was a leftist. Most people were leftist. We were basically indoctrinated that way, and that’s perfectly natural. There’s nothing wrong with that., but it’s just now when we see the reality that we understand, you know, that this leftist stuff is bad news for us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And Monika’s ritual defamation which she had to endure in Jasper was, it was vile! I mean, she used to play music once a week, or something like that in the Jasper Legion, it’s called. And there was a guy there <strong>Ken Kominski</strong> is his name, but he’s all over the internet now, in a very bad way. He just did everything to get her thrown out of there.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But you see, Monika had been a <strong>Green Party</strong> member. She and run for the Green Party in Canada, but had quit that party already a year before making that video, because it was her disgust at the fact that the Party would not deal with the issue of 9/11, and a few other things. So she <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[41:01]</strong> </span>was disillusioned by the hypocrisy of that Party. And, of course, now in hindsight we can see that Green Party, that’s one of the very worst. Here in Germany the Greens are the absolute worst!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> I used to vote for those people. And that’s how blindsided I was! How hoodwinked I was! These are the very worst of the worst., but people in Jasper, they liked the way she dealt with their ritual defamation, since she wasn’t allowed to busk officially and in the streets. Which is, you know, putting your hat down there and playing music and so forth. She just went out with her fiddle and played, just for free, kind of thing. And people loved it! So she had a lot of people who were very happy with what she was doing. And even people that didn’t understand the six million lie, and were believers of that sick religion., but even they would still come to her and say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>I might not agree with you what you’re saying, but I don’t think what they’re doing to you is right!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So they see the injustice of what’s <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[42:01] </strong></span>actually happening to her. And I’ve always told Monika that each and every one of those people that are now making your life difficult, are in the future, at some point in time, when you go down the street they will run and hide, or they will come and ask you for forgiveness, for their despicable, disgraceful behavior!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s something that we all have to understand. That us being attacked, I would much rather go to prison, Same with Monika. I mean, that’s why I’m not worried about her. She’s a very strong person and she’ll she knows the role she’s playing. And myself too. If I go to prison, so what? I’ll go to jail! And is going so fast now, that I won’t be in jail for very long before the mob will get me out of jail, or they’ll kill me.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But this lie is over! It truly is! No self-respecting European person can crawl on his knees with this utter nonsense of 6 million dead jews, shrunken heads, soap and lampshades! It is so bizarre!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’m looking into in turn to how <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[43:02]</strong> </span>they play this game, you know, depending how much time we have., because with the fall of the Iron Curtain, like Auschwitz, we are always told Auschwitz, Auschwitz! The people living in Auschwitz had never heard of anything about a “<em>Holocaust</em>” until after the Iron Curtain came down and then they had a problem!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Let’s get into that in the second segment, Alfred.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Sure.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> We’re going to take a little break in a little bit, so I think this is a good time should promote the website before we’re going to that. I want to hear more about that., but obviously one of the ones that were set up was “<em>wir sind Monika</em>” <strong>[wir-sind-monika.com]</strong> “<em>We are Monika</em>”. Tell us about that site and is there any way people can support her now? What can people do that are concerned with this and her future?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> I recommend everybody become familiar with the site “<strong><em>wir sind Monika</em></strong>”, or “<span style="color:#008000;"><em>We are Monika</em></span>”. That should get you there also. And this is sort of a go — to place to see what’s happening with Monika. All the latest updates. Plus we have a lot of links to other websites that have a massive amount of good information about the true history of what we call World War One, and World War Two.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[44:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s all in there. That’s the go — to place to find out what’s happening with Monika. And that is actually what had got them so upset, and that is the reason why they sent a team of ten heavily armed thugs into my home to steal everything they could find just yesterday morning.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> What happened with that? Tell us more about that. I mean, they just, what, did they just the break open the door? Did you open it? What happened?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> No this is interesting, because it’s always the same sort of woman with her team of thugs there. She comes from <strong>Fürstenfeldbruck</strong>, which isn’t that far. And this time in the summer, last summer of 2017, they came and they basically stormed in here at 6:00 in the morning like, you know, just about broke down the doorbell! And then they stormed in.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But this time they rang at seven o’clock and were very polite. The whole team of them. They surrounded the house first and then they came in. The whole house was full of these people, like ten of them at least, I couldn’t even count them all. And they didn’t take as long as the last time. It only took about, just over an hour. And they stole everything they could find, but I was <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[45:00]</strong></span> preemptively cautious. That’s why I’m talking to you now, I’ve still got my equipment.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I told them the whole time saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>You need to understand, lists are being compiled of all those people who are now being helpers of the system. And you will all find yourself having to explain your behavior when this lie goes over. And it’s just coming down now. It’s in free fall, and this is theft. And this is treason, what you are doing!</em>”</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>And what do you do when you go home at night? What do you tell your kids what you did? You chased a “</em><em>Holocaust</em>”<em> denier and stole all his equipment? I mean, that’s gonna be an embarrassing thing to explain, because your children are all going to know that this was all a lie. And nobody’s going to admit that they ever believed that stuff!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But that’s another thing. They don’t even talk about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” in these charges anymore. They actually charge us now, that we are “<em>undermining the trust that people have in our legal system</em>”! Now try to digest that one.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Is that what they told you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[46:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">That’s what’s written on the papers. That’s what’s written on the justifications for stealing all of our equipment, is that we are “<em>undermining that people’s trust in the legal system</em>”! Now if that isn’t an inversion of reality, I don’t know what is! And that’s what they do with everything. The “<em>Holocaust</em>”, and everything else that they’re feeding us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">You have to understand this process of “<em>inverting and projecting</em>”. They invert their own behavior, put it on the victim and they project that out there. And they just propagandize that message into our brains. And if we’re dumb enough to believe it, you know, we deserve to get exterminated! , but we are waking up, because we are not really that dumb!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Alright. Let’s take a little break here then., but yeah, I want to send pple over to “<em>wir sind Monika</em>”. We’ll have a link down the description for that. There is, of course, tell us about your personal sites, as well Alfred.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[46:58]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> I don’t have any personal sites. I have my videos. I made them all, I basically finished my video career. Now I’m doing a lot of writing and doing talk shows like this one right now., because that is right now, the most effective way that we could the message out there. If I had invested in new equipment after they stole all of my equipment, my cameras, everything! They took everything you could find! Thousands of euros worth! If I had reinvested, it would all be gone now again. That’s why I don’t bother.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I just have learned to operate mobile. I can work here, I can work there. All that I need is a little laptop with an internet connection. That’s all I need now, and that’s all I’m going to be working with in the future.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Okay. Yeah, you have the YouTube channel. We will link to that, of course. People can check out your older videos. A lot of good videos there, a lot of material on, you know, bigger picture, like 9/11, and how the entrainment, how the mind control process works. And stuff like that. Very interesting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you, just the last point before we take a break here. Would you want to, if you could, leave Germany and go back to Canada? Are you happy where you are, at the moment?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[48:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">I couldn’t go to Canada! Canada! They are such zombies these people! There are more indoctrinated to be zombies than in Germany. I mean, Germany is pretty bad, but Canada’s even worse! I mean, they are completely brain-dead there! I hate to say it, but I would cry if I have to look at that every single day.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now there’s good people, don’t get me wrong, but the general population is completely and totally, they’ve had their brains rotted out! And that’s a very alarming condition to be in, because they will not survive the coming reality. That is what I’m most concerned about, what used to be my home country. No. I want to stay in Germany right here, even if I go to jail, I’ll still stay here.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yep, I understand that. Alright folks let’s just take a short break here. We’ll be back more with Alfred Schaefer. All the links down below. Stay tuned everyone, we’ll be right back.</p>
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<p>Thank you for watching, or listing guys. We’re doing a second part with Alfred Schaefer at Red Ice members dot com, right now. Yes really! A second members exclusive hour. It’s been a long time since we did that last. This is kind of the reboot, the reboot premiere of the members hour for our interview shows. This is, of course, something that we’ve started up now again. Since the “<em>hack</em>” we’ve not done a second hour. So this is great getting back into this doing these once more.</p>
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<p>And what’s more troubling and difficult is that despite the fact that we do not condone, you know, the promotion of violence, and such things. We, you know, these deluded people who want to silence people with different views are claiming that when we speak about our views, about how we see the world, then that is violence and hate! , but it’s not! This is lies! They can’t handle that we are a growing channel, a growing community. People are tuning in, people are liking our content, that’s the problem, right?</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Brian Ruhe talks with Canadian-German brother and sister, Alfred and Monika Schaefer about the latest police raid of Alfred&#8217;s home in Germany, where the police &#8220;stole&#8221; material and equipment from him. This is all due because he has been &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2017/07/27/brian-ruhe-with-alfred-and-monika-schaefer-jul-2017-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>Brian Ruhe</strong> talks with Canadian-German brother and sister, <strong>Alfred</strong> and <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong> about the latest police raid of Alfred&#8217;s home in Germany, where the police &#8220;<em>stole</em>&#8221; material and equipment from him. This is all due because he has been spreading truth about the greatest hoax in modern history, the so-called jewish &#8220;<strong><em>Holocau$t</em></strong>&#8221; of WWII and also the jewish false flag event of <strong>9/11</strong> and their subsequent <strong>War OF Terror.</strong> Also discussed is the need for everyone to fight back against the ever-growing restrictions being instigated world-wide by organized jewry on our ability to speak freely — KATANA.]<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Alfred Schaefer</span></strong> is a Canadian videographer living in Germany. On July 6, 2017 at 6:00 am his door bell rang ferociously, as if some berserk madman was about to kick in the door. Seven armed thugs appeared with guns, bullet-proof vests and handcuffs and one &#8220;witness&#8221; from the town administration. Please support Alfred Schaefer as he tells the truth and exposes the lies about the Holocaust.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Please email Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to act to protect this Canadian citizen who has had his property stolen, at: pm@pm.gc.ca .</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Alfred Schaefer&#8217;s website is: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/Allwesable">https://www.youtube.com/user/Allwesable</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #800000;">Monika Schaefer&#8217;s website is: <a href="https://freespeechmonika.wordpress.com/">freespeechmonika.wordpress.com</a></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Welcome to the <strong>Brian Ruhe Show</strong>. Today’s July 8th 2017. My guest is <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong></span> in Germany and his sister <strong><span style="color: #800000;">Monika Schaefer</span></strong>, in Jasper Canada. They both are videographers, and they have released videos telling the truth about the “<em>Holocau$t</em>”. They have both suffered quite a lot for this. Monika has had some isolation in her town. But Alfred, just two days ago, was “<em>swatted</em>” by the German authorities. Alfred, tell us what happened?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes it was a surprise attack. I wasn’t even really expecting it. At six o’clock the doorbell just suddenly went crazy — ding, ding, ding, ding! They were just hammering on it. And so I, you know, I jumped out of bed. Like okay, I said to Frieda:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I scrambled around to get a few things sorted out. And within about, a very few seconds, suddenly there was a whole team of these guys with their guns and bulletproof vests. And they just came in and that was it! They pinned us down basically. And okay:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they were there and they said that they had an order to steal, well they say “<em>confiscate</em>”, steal all my video equipment and so forth, and computers, everything. Storage devices and not only storage devices this time, but also the video equipment.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so they went about doing that. And the whole time I was telling them, you know, how do you, what do you guys tell your children when you go home? Do you go home and tell them:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh you got a “</em><em>Holocau$t</em>” denier and stole all his equipment.”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Come on! The whole world is waking up! The whole world is laughing at Germany for being so stupid, that there are still some people that believe it. That’s what told him the whole time and says, you know:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>This is treason what you’re doing! And that’s how you will be judged and, you know, that this is theft what you’re doing!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I never stopped driving it into their conscience. But the head, or the leader of that crew, these gangsters, was a woman. And she was there, she actually did the raid last summer, and I was hoping, or I thought, that she had learned something. Because I used to send her my newest productions and so forth. And, you know, here you guys are all suffering from this induced mental illness and so forth.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I think she has chosen to betray her people and the human beings on this planet and work for a few shekels, take the shekels from the parasite and do their dirty work! And she knows that she’s doing this dirty work, so she’s the one that has really disappointed me. Now the other ones, the cops kind of thing, the big guys, a lot of them probably don’t really know and they seem to be quite actually keenly interested in, like, for example, we had the book, “<strong><em>Mein Kampf</em></strong>” from Adolf Hitler on the coffee table. And my wife, Frieda, she says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh that’s mine, you know, I’m just reading that.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And also they were looking at the other stuff, and some of the guys were just like guarding us, but he’s looking and reading through the stuff and very keenly interested in reading it, and actually left some of the stuff there, like the newest &#8220;<strong><em>Zundel Brief&#8221;</em></strong>, you know, like from <strong>Ingrid Zundel.</strong> She sends it to us all the time. He’s reading that. But what they did also, not only steal all the stuff, but they photographed all the books that are in our bookshelves! I want to know what kind of stuff we are reading.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">So listen people, if you think religion in a free society, the state authorities come and they photograph what we are reading!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Wow!</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">They are keenly interested! And they steal our equipment! Because now they say in Germany, for example, they want to make huge fines for anybody who puts out, “<em>fake news</em>”! I mean, in other words, they have their lies and anybody who disagree with their lies and puts something out that contradicts these lies, will be charged with putting out, “<em>fake news</em>”!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That how bad it’s got. It’s double speak! But, like I said, the more insane it gets, the easier it is even for the zombies to see through it, that something isn’t right! So all these people that are now actually that stupid, or pretending to be stupid — because they think that they don’t have to change their life that way — it’s getting harder and harder for them to continue with that position. So that’s good for us.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Henry-Ford-quote-on-the-Protocols.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24922" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Henry-Ford-quote-on-the-Protocols.jpg" alt="" width="706" height="344" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Henry-Ford-quote-on-the-Protocols.jpg 706w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Henry-Ford-quote-on-the-Protocols-600x292.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 706px) 100vw, 706px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">I’ll make a comment about this is censorship. They’re privatizing the censorship, aren’t they? By charging fines, or making fines on those companies who don’t block certain sites. So that’s in effect, privatizing the censorship of what we’re allowed to see and read! And about the books, I mean, maybe this is a precursor to what went on in Russia, what became the Soviet Union. There at some point they would just shoot people with certain books. You know, it was an instant death penalty if you had the &#8220;<strong><em>Protocols of Zion</em></strong>&#8220;, for instance. That was instant death penalty. I mean, it’s not there yet here, but this is the direction that it’s going. It is really out of control with what they’re censoring and how they’re censoring!</span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[05:24]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Also in Russia if you were labeled “<em>anti-semitic</em>” that was also the death penalty. So, if that’s what we want, then we just continue to keep our heads in buried in the sand and do nothing. But that’s why we’re fighting, and we’re fighting to win, because we are going to drive this until they do one of two things; they either shoot us and kill us, or we get enough people to come out so that they know they can’t do that and we’re going to win!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-In-Bolshevik-Russia-Antisemitism-punshible-by-Death-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24911" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-In-Bolshevik-Russia-Antisemitism-punshible-by-Death-2.jpg" alt="" width="757" height="713" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-In-Bolshevik-Russia-Antisemitism-punshible-by-Death-2.jpg 757w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-In-Bolshevik-Russia-Antisemitism-punshible-by-Death-2-600x565.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 757px) 100vw, 757px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’m convinced we have to make it so that all those people who are their willing helpers now, they are being exposed, we are pulling their masks off, and they are will have no choice other than to basically come out and hope, and plead, for forgiveness and mercy. Because they cannot possibly kill, you know, exterminate the entire White race as the whole White race is finding out what they have done to us!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, their incredible success of the past, the entire history of the World Wars, the entire history of communism, and now that we have figured out who it actually was, namely the jewish plot to dominate us and control us. That is now coming out and they cannot get that genie back in the bottle. It’s a little bit like if you’re a serial killer and finally you get cockier, and cockier, you’re just killing, raping, and so forth, them finally you get caught somewhere along the line. And then all the other crimes you committed over a long period of time are all exposed! And that is a bad time to say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>No, I didn’t do it!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">No! We know you did it! And now you’re guilty. And then to try to maybe kill those people who are finding out, only makes it worse! And that’s the situation we’re in right now.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The parasite, or the jew, or whatever you want to call it, or him, whatever it is, is at the end of the road! And this time it has bitten off more than it can chew, because to basically breed down the White race, &#8230; Basically applying the same business model as was applied to Germany, in what we call the Second World War. Having the people who have been duped into destroying Germany, partake in the spoils and then to create all kinds of evil propaganda about the Germans to justify it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24923" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing.jpg" alt="" width="1047" height="1014" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing.jpg 1047w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing-600x581.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing-1024x992.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Dresden-ruins-after-bombing-768x744.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1047px) 100vw, 1047px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now they’re applying that very same, very successful business model, to the entire White race! That’s why all the invaders are partaking in the loot. They’re taking our homes, our land, our everything, and they’re not going to complain. And we are being vilified to justify what’s happening. And then we are so gullible, because of our nature, our human nature. Specifically the White race has this huge degree of empathy and goodwill, that we have been psychologically brought down to the level of committing “<em>suicide</em>”, basically!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s the whole reason for all this propaganda, is to destroy our natural defenses! But now that we are recovering from that, the people who are waking up are recovering, that’s why it’s so important to just educate! Educate! Educate nonstop!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because, we are very close now to having that critical mass where it will be a done deal. And nobody will want to admit in a very short time from now, that they EVER believed any of those lies!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So those people who think they can just sort of think it’s going to go away, or pretend they don’t understand, they are risking the rest of their life being seen as a complete and total idiot, or treasonous, or mentally retarded something! You will not be part of the, you know, respected community, or something, because you have to justify why you remained silent! Not to me, not to Monika, or to Brian, but to your own children! And that’s a a pretty tough one. I mean, your kids will know!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Also, another thing I found out, the “<em>JQ</em>” is now amongst the young people in North America, you know, the White ones, especially. You don’t have to explain it anymore, “<em>JQ</em>”, the jewish Question. Now that’s progress! Now how are they going to get that one out of their minds? I mean, the young people, they are waking up! So the older people from our generations, who think that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh, we have a good life! Why should I bother, why should I burden myself with this problem now, when so old and ready for retirement?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Or whatever. Anyway, no you have got to do enough so that you can justify to your children what you did, or did not do! That is all. Now once you understand some of this, then you’ll really start kicking into gear!</span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #00ccff;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[10:15]</span><br />
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s what’s happening now, is that people are understanding. They find a new purpose in life. And also, a very interesting thing I hear this more and more now, people that are beginning to understand this, they are stopping consumption of alcohol. They’re getting themselves fit, because they suddenly find they have a purpose in life!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s another thing, that we as Europeans, it doesn’t do us good to have to go too long without any real challenges! <span style="color: #008000;">[Brian start to laugh in agreement]</span> So this challenge is actually good for us! It’s good for our spirit, it’s good to get us back into what we have always been. That’s why I’m absolutely certain that we’re going to win this battle! I don’t think, &#8230; It’s a no contest really!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s even like <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT1AzrKuEtM">Alan Sabrosky</a> had said, that when the American people really understand and that was only about 9/11. He says when they really understand what happened, who brought us 9/11, he said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>They will scrub Israel off the face of this earth! And they will not give a rat’s ass what the cost is! They will do it!</em>”</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alan-Sabrosky-911-israel-quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23366" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alan-Sabrosky-911-israel-quote.jpg" alt="" width="721" height="339" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alan-Sabrosky-911-israel-quote.jpg 721w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alan-Sabrosky-911-israel-quote-600x282.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 721px) 100vw, 721px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It will be a “<em>no contest</em>”! And now we know that 9/11 is only one link in a long chain that goes in very far and very deep! So it’s already a whole lot worse than, &#8230; If people are afraid to deal with 9/11, well, when you get the whole picture, then you’ll get your blood going! And then you have the right spirit to do something about it. So that’s we’re faced with now. It’s a good time to be alive!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> You know, I think that yes, they’re on the run! With the internet more people are waking up. So it seems like they are on the run. It’s kind of like the elephant is afraid of the mouse! We’re the elephant, we’re the ninety-nine percent.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh yeah!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">Yeah, I would like to add to what Alfred has talked about. It really is an existential threat that we face right now! And it is every bit as critical, as we are, you know, projecting to people out there that we absolutely have to do everything that we can to fight this existential, or to overcome this existential threat! And really the most lethal weapon that has been used against us is the psychological warfare. The lies, the deceptions, and the indoctrination, the programming of our brains, the programming of the young people’s brains.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">I mean, Alfred talks about young people waking up and coming out, and I think that is true. But at the same time I’ve been shocked to see that the younger generation, they are highly affected by some of the poisoning that they are encountering in the schools with some of the things are being taught in what we call, &#8230; You know, they might call it “<em>health studies</em>”, or “<em>family studies</em>”, or “<em>sex education</em>”, but I have renamed it as “<em>porno pushing</em>”, porno and perversion pushing.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Dees-Transgender-Bathrooms.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23948" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Dees-Transgender-Bathrooms.jpg" alt="" width="1051" height="794" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Dees-Transgender-Bathrooms.jpg 1051w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Dees-Transgender-Bathrooms-600x453.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Dees-Transgender-Bathrooms-1024x774.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Dees-Transgender-Bathrooms-768x580.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1051px) 100vw, 1051px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #800000;">It softens up their minds, it changes their brains the things they’re being taught at a very young age, so they can’t get past that first base. They can’t get to second base which would be to understand a very, very basic facts about 9/11, which if you just take a very small amount of time to look into that, you will see that the official story is completely wrong!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">And then when you discover we’ve been lied to about that, you realize that lying was not invented on September 11th, 2001. And that the lies are so much deeper!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">And<span style="color: #008000;"> [if]</span> you go back into World War Two history and the “<em>hollow-co$t</em>” the so-called jewish “<em>Holocau$t</em>” and when you realize that is a BIG lie! It’s really at the core of the structure of deception that is structuring our very world! Like, you talked about Israel and 9/11 and what Alan Sabrosky said. Well Israel is actually structured on the “<em>hollow-cost</em>” or the “<em>holohoax</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">And the whole persecution of the jewish people, that is their identity, but when you figure out that the “<em>Holocau$t</em>” is a lie and then you can go back into history and you could ask, well why were they kicked out of country after country, region after region? Is it just, because we’re born with some gene called “<em>anti-semitic</em>”? Like, how much sense does that make? It makes no sense at all!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Jews-Must-Live-Part-10-image.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24924" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Jews-Must-Live-Part-10-image.jpg" alt="" width="589" height="866" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">It’s when you realize that what they do, is they come in, they become a chameleon, they become like us in their appearance, in their language, how they talk how, they speak, how they look, how they dress, and we don’t realize that they’re infiltrating all the power structure of the government, the media! That’s a really important one. The media basically tells us how to think, the movies, the books, the publishing, you know, which books get promoted, which films get all the awards. They kind of pat themselves on the back for the films that they want to promote. All these things, so they form how we think, and then subvert from within. It’s the enemy within that is so much more dangerous than enemy at the gate with the guns and the canons, right?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [15:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #800000;">So, this is how it goes. And I want to also address this thing about the White race and White guilt. So part of the<strong> <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/07/23/london-forum-alfred-schaefer-psychological-warfare-transcript/">psychological warfare</a></strong> against us is to teach us from, you know, from the day we’re going into kindergarten, basically, how bad we’ve been! We’ve been so bad, we have to, you know, make up for all our bad!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23935" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="646" height="1029" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER.jpg 646w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER-600x956.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER-643x1024.jpg 643w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 646px) 100vw, 646px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #800000;">And in Germany it’s particularly bad. And we experienced that very personally with some relatives of ours, who really, just basically went crazy when they found out about my video! And they were responding in an uncontrolled manner, it was like they were triggered! They really were programmed to respond in a triggered way, that they basically never want to contact with us again. You know:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>Get out of the house!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">All these things, because we’re going to make Germany BAD again! And this was how they were talking to us:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>You are going to make Germany bad again!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">So they are carrying the guilt, this false, phony guilt, the collective guilt, that the German people are supposed to have forever, and ever, and ever. And crawling on their knees, … to what?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">And when you find out it’s a lie! I mean, this does create some anger, and this is where the “<em>Spirit</em>” is going to come back, and that yes, the European people have to regain their spirit, and their sense of responsibility to our people! And no, we are not guilty of all the bad things that happened on earth. I’m sure that there are many bad things that we have done, but we are not collectively guilty for all the bad things! We’ve been lied to about a lot of our history.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">And, … so that… we do have the “<em>empathy gene</em>”, and we also have a high-trust society. That is how we’ve evolved, in the harsh winters, the seasons that, &#8230; It has to do with where our people spent thousands and thousands of years. And that this was actually<span style="color: #008000;"> [what]</span> helped us survive. Helped us to survive in the harsh elements of the seasons. And we had to have a high-trust society, and that’s now being<span style="color: #008000;"> [used]</span> against us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">So we trust that we’re being told the truth when we’re being told things by our teachers, and by our parents, who have been also misled. Then we have this “<em>empathy gene</em>”, and this has been used against us, been turned against us, and that’s why we, our people, are destroying us, … ourselves.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">Like it’s written right into the “<strong><em>Protocols of the Elders of Zion</em></strong>”:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>The goy will become agents of their own destruction</em>”.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">This is what we have to understand, and then we can get over this, &#8230; This terrible psychological indoctrination that we’ve faced.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. See, like a lot of this, the psychological warfare that they do, is they actually project their own characteristics onto their next intended victim. That’s why they firstly did it very successfully with the Germans, their projecting all this evil, all these evil, evil characteristics onto them. Which is actually their own characteristics. And then the jews themselves, who had holocausted of the Germans, &#8230; Then afterwards, held out their hand and said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>‘Holocau$t’ … give me money, give me money!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And now they’re doing the same thing, and they’ve expanded that business model to the entire White race! And it seems to be working very well, so far. But that is now coming to an end as people are waking up.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the big downfall now for the jews, I guess, is that it has worked so well, because now it’s like a serial murderer, eventually you trip over one of your crimes and all the other ones get exposed and then you will be held accountable for all the other ones.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the problem now with the jews, is that since they work as a collective, they will most likely be punished as a collective! And that is actually why it’s most important now for those jews who consider themselves innocent, and they probably are innocent, because they’ve been duped, just like we were duped, to waste no more time and come out, raise the white flag, ask for forgiveness; and I’m sure that we’ll be very forgiving.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But any jew, or any non-jew who still now supports the lies, is putting themselves in a very, very, precarious situation, because they cannot, &#8230; These lies are coming down faster than you can possibly imagine! And that’s the situation we’re in right now.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #00ccff;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[19:57]</span><br />
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, I think it’s important for people to speak to others. Because others might be feeling the same way to get more people to talk, &#8230; Like, get this avalanche going!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">Yeah, on that issue of jewish non-participation, they’ve been duped, they’re brainwashed right from the day they’re born. However, when they say to us:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>Oh, you can’t talk about those things!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">Like, for example in my hometown, before I was talking about the “<em>Holocau$t</em>”, when I was only talking about 9/11 and making some connections with Israel and Zionism, and this kind of thing with 9/11. The crime of 9/11. There were people who I had no idea that they were jewish, they had been friends of mine, or acquaintances of mine, with whom I was very friendly over the years that I’ve lived here, and suddenly they were shunning me and not talking to me!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Garrison-911.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24926" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Garrison-911.jpg" alt="" width="1754" height="1240" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Garrison-911.jpg 1754w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Garrison-911-600x424.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Garrison-911-1024x724.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Garrison-911-768x543.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Garrison-911-1536x1086.jpg 1536w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1754px) 100vw, 1754px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Wow!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">… and I couldn’t understand that. And then when I confronted them at some point — at first I just thought, maybe they’re going through a depression or something, really that’s how, it didn’t even occur to me that it was because of the things I was saying — but then when I confronted this one fellow in particular, he just lashed out at me and said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>You’re going too far! You’re going to far! Talking about 9/11, and you’re just going too far!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">And then at that point I ask myself, well, wait a minute. Okay, maybe he’s been fooled by what the mainstream media has been telling us. However, if he’s telling me I cannot talk about these things, does that not make him complicit? Does that not make him complicit?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Maybe, &#8230; You didn’t know he was jewish? That’s an important thing, you didn’t know he was jewish.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">And then afterwards, then I learned that he was jewish, and so that is the reason why he’s upset that I’m talking about 9/11! Now how much sense does that make?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">… that, you know, that’s the problem.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">That I think, that puts him on the opposite side of humanity! That puts him on the side of the parasites!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because when the hammer comes down, who’s guilty and who’s not guilty, these people, &#8230;you’d better hope that we’ve forgotten about these incidents, but if we remember these incidents. And I mean, because they’re doing this to, &#8230; Because they want to enslave us all! And, in fact, they want to actually get rid of the White Race!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s a case of them, or us! Then we will do what is necessary, so that it won’t be us that’s going down! So remember that! Keep that in mind.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so you say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>You can’t go there!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>I am going there and if you want to stop me you’re in big trouble, because we are many and you are few, and we are all waking up!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I want to go back to the police raid that was done against me.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, let’s do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24912" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs.jpg" alt="" width="785" height="1035" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs.jpg 785w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs-600x791.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs-777x1024.jpg 777w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs-768x1013.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 785px) 100vw, 785px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">They stole all my video equipment, because they say that is, &#8230; I’m producing, I’m inciting, I’m doing it, using it to incite racial hatred. They also stole all my “<a href="http://www.ae911truth.org/"><strong><em>Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth</em></strong></a>” DVDs that I had here. You know, a whole drawer full! They say that’s also illegal now, to have. Because that’s also incitement to racial hatred! So you see how they’re expanding the spectrum of what you’re not allowed to talk about? You see, now the forensic evidence, or just description of the forensic evidence of 9/11 is coming in as the same category as “<em>Holocau$t denial</em>”! So obviously… actually that helps us, because it makes it even just easier for even the zombies to understand that this is not right!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/911-The-Jews-Had-Me-Fooled-527-wtc-7-didnt-blow-itself-up.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21580" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/911-The-Jews-Had-Me-Fooled-527-wtc-7-didnt-blow-itself-up.jpg" alt="" width="636" height="389" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/911-The-Jews-Had-Me-Fooled-527-wtc-7-didnt-blow-itself-up.jpg 636w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/911-The-Jews-Had-Me-Fooled-527-wtc-7-didnt-blow-itself-up-300x183.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 636px) 100vw, 636px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">Right! I’m really glad you brought up Alfred. That they also stole those things from you, the 9/11 information. I want to point out to the listeners in case they are not familiar with “<em>AE 9/11 Truth</em>”. That’s, “<strong><a href="http://www.ae911truth.org/"><em>Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth</em></a>”</strong>.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/911-The-Jews-Had-Me-Fooled-528-AE-for-911-truth-protester-banner.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21581" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/911-The-Jews-Had-Me-Fooled-528-AE-for-911-truth-protester-banner.jpg" alt="" width="635" height="385" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/911-The-Jews-Had-Me-Fooled-528-AE-for-911-truth-protester-banner.jpg 635w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/911-The-Jews-Had-Me-Fooled-528-AE-for-911-truth-protester-banner-300x182.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 635px) 100vw, 635px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">One of their hallmarks, I guess you could say, and they’ve been criticized for it, but I do want to point out that they never, ever, point a finger at “<em>who did it</em>”! They just put all the physical evidence of why these towers came down, due to controlled demolition, and not because of two planes hitting two buildings, and then three buildings came down<span style="color: #008000;"> [WTC 1, WTC2 and WTC7]</span>. They talk about physical forensic evidence and they’ve stayed away from pointing a finger at who did it. They’ve always said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>Look that’s for you to figure out, but here’s the forensic evidence.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">So really that does just expose them<span style="color: #008000;"> [the police and their controllers]</span>!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Of course.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">… and it is now illegal!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Like when I say, when something like this raid happens, like against me, I say we have to deal with these things just like the Asian sports, the defence sports, like judo or something, where you take the energy that your opponent is coming at you with, and reverse it, and turn it against him. And that’s what this a raid has done, now for me.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">First it’s a shock, you know:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh shit, they stole all my stuff!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But then I said okay, well now, .. That’s why I wrote that email then, and sent it out there to say the duplicity here.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They have been filling the minds, … they are raping the minds, of not only us, but our children now, with so many perversions and lies, and they make good money at it, like Schindler’s List and all these holohoax and stuff.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/MOGV-chapter-01-2442-Schindlers-List-sniper-scene.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24085" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/MOGV-chapter-01-2442-Schindlers-List-sniper-scene.jpg" alt="" width="839" height="518" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/MOGV-chapter-01-2442-Schindlers-List-sniper-scene.jpg 839w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/MOGV-chapter-01-2442-Schindlers-List-sniper-scene-600x370.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/MOGV-chapter-01-2442-Schindlers-List-sniper-scene-768x474.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 839px) 100vw, 839px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, now they want to impose huge fines on people in Germany, for what they claim is fake news or something. And at the same time anybody who is exposing what is actually happening, they steal their video equipment, like me. Or they steal the DVDs from <em><strong>Architects and Engineers</strong></em>, &#8230; They are so blatantly insane at this point in time, that there are fewer and fewer people who are going along with it. And this also brings a new strategy, that everyone here is trying to follow, is that anybody who is involved in these prosecutions against us, for revealing the truth, we want to expose these people.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs-Experts-Speak-Out.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24913" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs-Experts-Speak-Out.jpg" alt="" width="823" height="1004" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs-Experts-Speak-Out.jpg 823w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs-Experts-Speak-Out-600x732.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-911-DVDs-Experts-Speak-Out-768x937.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 823px) 100vw, 823px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">No more anonymous prosecutors: Find out their name, full name, picture if possible. We’re going to put these things out on the Internet, and we are finding now that the courts are having a great deal of trouble to actually continue to do these prosecutions. You know, like this, when they did this raid now against me, it was <strong>B’nai Brith Canada</strong> that basically triggered it. And why are a bunch of jews in Canada getting the police here to come and raid, steal my stuff?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Bnai-Brith-Canada.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23370" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Bnai-Brith-Canada.jpg" alt="" width="634" height="559" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Bnai-Brith-Canada.jpg 634w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Bnai-Brith-Canada-600x529.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then the courts have a problem! Then there will be some judge’s name or something on the paper, and that’s where they’re having a hard time finding people to still do that, because they know that we are now exposing them. No more, you know, just a court-house number, so and so. There will be a name of the judge who makes a decision and we are pushing that out on the Internet saying that is treason, and they will be accountable for that! And they know it!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they’re all backing down, they’re running scared! And we’re also… like how blatant of a treason do you want to commit? Because it’s over, their lies truly are over!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the censorship in Germany, you wouldn’t believe it! They’re censoring everything, it’s just, you know, … I mean, it’s insane!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> That’s a great idea to name the judge’s name, and to put it on the Internet, make everything public. Public information. Yeah, great idea!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Absolutely! So that’s the thing, yeah, yeah, anything else you want to add?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">I’d like to just give encouragement to people that, you know, when they say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>Well, even if you’re right, Monika, what can one person do about it really? Let’s just live our life and enjoy.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">And what not. But yes! You can make a difference! And the proof is: Why would they go after somebody like Alfred, and me, and after you Brian, as well? I know you suffered consequences. Why do they go after us so ferociously? It’s because we are making a difference! I mean the proof is right there, otherwise they wouldn’t care! You see, so that gives me some hope and encouragement, and I would give others the encouragement to please just, you know, you can figure these things out, you can educate yourself, you can educate others, you can do what you can.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">And everybody has different ideas of what they can do. And I don’t want to try to, you know, tell people what they should do. We have our own imaginations and we can all contribute in different ways.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Germany-Going-Down-2570-mass-of-invaders.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24927" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Germany-Going-Down-2570-mass-of-invaders.jpg" alt="" width="727" height="452" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Germany-Going-Down-2570-mass-of-invaders.jpg 727w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Germany-Going-Down-2570-mass-of-invaders-600x373.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 727px) 100vw, 727px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">But to do nothing is not an option! Because we are facing an existential crisis! And yes, it is just absolutely so important. And also I would just say to those people who still don’t get it, and we do have people in our own family that really don’t get it. I would say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>Well, how do you reconcile this violence of putting people in jail, or raiding their homes, or this total ostracization and shunning? How do you reconcile that with a free and democratic society? When what are we being punished for? —Words! Words! . Simple words!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">We have not gone out and clobbered somebody on the head with a sledgehammer! We have not committed murder, or robbed people, or broken in, or vandalized! No! We’re speaking words! And then they do these harsh things against us? —Well! How does …how do you reconcile that with a free and democratic society, so-called?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> I know. And in Germany I just want to point out, if a man commits rape he might go to jail for one year, or maybe two. But if they deny the “<em>Holocau$t</em>” they can go to jail for five years, just for words!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s insane, it’s insane!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">Yes!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">And that is another reason why it’s important that you do something, is because the young people are all figuring it out now. In fact, you don’t now have to explain to young people anymore what “<em>JQ</em>” means. It means the “<em>Jewish Question“</em><em>. </em>And so if you think that you can just sort of cruise along with your head in the sand, where it’s been so far, and it’ll be all okay, you’ll have to explain that to your children when they figured out and they say Mom, or Dad:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Why didn’t you even TRY to do something!?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because us letting this continue without any resistance, is absolute, guaranteed, pure hell for all of us! Because we are in the cross-hairs to become exterminated!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:32]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Unless you’re one of the African invaders, and then it’s great for you, because you get to.. You’re the one who takes our houses and everything else! But we as the European founder settlers of the European countries and North America, are slated for destruction! So, if you are of White skin color, remember you’re in the cross-hairs! So do start doing something.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">And we’re not just guessing that. They’ve been telling us that through all kinds of writings, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> The <a href="http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/10/04/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-white-genocide-by-design-part-1/"><strong>Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan</strong></a>, since the twenties [1920s].</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Duke-interviews-Andrew-Joyce-2208-Kalergi-young-Poster.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23216" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Duke-interviews-Andrew-Joyce-2208-Kalergi-young-Poster.jpg" alt="" width="824" height="856" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Duke-interviews-Andrew-Joyce-2208-Kalergi-young-Poster.jpg 824w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Duke-interviews-Andrew-Joyce-2208-Kalergi-young-Poster-600x623.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Duke-interviews-Andrew-Joyce-2208-Kalergi-young-Poster-768x798.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 824px) 100vw, 824px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, there’s this quote.. Let’s just quote Susan Sontag, for example, a jew and she said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>The White race is the cancer of humanity!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, how about <strong>Noel Ignatiev</strong>. He said the same thing:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>The White race is the cancer of this earth</em>” and “<em>How can anybody think it’s not desirable to get rid of it?</em>”</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-Noel-Ignatiev-quote-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24916" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-Noel-Ignatiev-quote-.jpg" alt="" width="622" height="361" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-Noel-Ignatiev-quote-.jpg 622w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brian-Ruhe-Afred-and-Monika-Schaefer-Noel-Ignatiev-quote--600x348.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 622px) 100vw, 622px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s what these people have said! Openly! Openly! When they do it openly and we just sit there and let it happen, and welcome in the invaders and give them our land, and our, you know, everything else, everything we have! Well that’s called suicide! That’s suicide!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yep!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">Calling it diversity when really they’re getting rid of DIVERSITY! — It is a fraud!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yep!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s a fraud!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yes. Diversity is a code word for White genocide.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yes, the sooner we speak up the better, the time to speak up is NOW! So our virtue burns the brightest! The fact that we’re doing this means the three of us have virtue to keep doing this, to keep going, to keep marching forward!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">Thank you very much Brian.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah okay. Just one last thing I want to say.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, please do.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">The people who are coming out and understanding this, they find they suddenly have a new purpose in life, and feel energized, and they drop the bad habits they had. For example, alcohol and so forth and they started making themselves fit for the struggle and the fight that’s coming up!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that is positive, because we Europeans are not used to having such an easy soft life, it’s not our nature. We have become what we are, because we’ve usually had to struggle, and this struggle that’s coming up is actually good for our spirit. I see people everywhere are, who understanding that, are coming to the same conclusion that we all three are — because what a wonderful time to be alive with this challenge to deal with!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> And I really resonate with that! Because this is my first, the start of the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/BrianRuhe"><em><strong>Brian Ruhe Show</strong></em></a> in 2015, because this is my new purpose.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> <span style="color: #800000;">Okay, Thank you!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Thank you!</span></p>
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