Mark Collett

Is the Electoral Route a Dead End?

Fri, May 10, 2024

[In this video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, says:

“An in-depth explanation of why UK electoral politics is so difficult for nationalists to conquer. From the system of voting to the media’s power – what is holding back change in the UK and how did successive nationalist parties fail?”

Contents:

1. Mark welcomes viewers to livestream to discuss if elections are a dead end for nationalists.

2. First-past-the-post system leads to two party domination and minority governments.

3. Tactical voting is common as voters fear their preferred party won’t win.

4. In 2015 UK election, Conservatives won majority with 36.9% while UKIP got 12.6% but only 1 seat.

5. Collett recalls campaigning and seeing promotion of tactical voting.

6. Two party system creates nearly identical “centrist” parties.

7. Voters flip between two main parties every 10-15 years.

8. Media only covers two main parties and controls debates.

9. Outsider candidates attacked, insiders given soft interviews.

10. System makes it very difficult for smaller parties like nationalists to win representation.

11. BNP initially succeeded in 2002 due to electoral quirk putting all seats up for election.

12. BNP went on to win by-elections with large activist efforts.

13. In 2004 BNP expected to do well in EU election but UKIP took many of its votes.

14. After this BNP went into decline.

15. Terrorist attacks and arrests of BNP leaders brought attention back to party in 2005-06.

16. BNP had peak success in 2006, becoming official opposition in Barking and Dagenham.

17. BNP started losing seats in 2007 as other parties focused on defeating it.

18. Richard Barnbrook elected to GLA in 2008 with 5.4% vote for BNP.

19. Nick Griffin and Andrew Brons elected as MEPs in 2009.

20. In 2010 general election, BNP councilors wiped out except Brian Parker.

21. Former BNP candidate Chris Beverley loses seat in 2010 despite tireless campaigning.

22. BNP goes into tailspin after 2010 election.

23. By 2014 only Nick Griffin and few councilors remain from BNP’s peak.

24. Reflections on BNP’s brief success of 57 councilors, 1 GLA member, 2 MEPs.

25. Tensions grew within BNP as it declined after peak.

26. Nick Griffin’s appearance on Question Time in 2009 was a turning point for the worse.

27. Collett believes Griffin was underprepared and ignored advice.

28. Griffin’s poor performance on Question Time scared away middle-class voters.

29. After Question Time and 2010 election, BNP rapidly disintegrated.

30. Collett doesn’t lament dedicating his youth to BNP despite only to see all progress lost.

– KATANA]

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Hello everybody. Good evening and welcome to tonight’s stream. We are live in all the usual places. That means we’re live on Dlive. That means we are live on Odysee. That means we are live on Rumble. That means we are live on Entropy, and we should also be live tonight on BitChute. They just started a streaming service, but I’m not sure whether that’s going to work. I’ve put all the stuff in correctly, but they might be having a few teething problems and I have a couple of struggles setting up the stream.

So it’s not live there. I apologise to anyone who wanted to watch it live there. I’m sure I can work out teething problems in the future. I can’t really do that on tonight’s stream live, though, because it’s just me, obviously.

So because of that, if you are hoping to watch live on BitChute for the first time ever, unfortunately that might not be able to be happening. And if it’s not, my apologies.

Anyway, we’re obviously live and tonight’s stream is about elections. Are elections a dead end for nationalists? Can we win via the electoral route?

Well, before we get into that, at the end of the stream, we are going to do a Q&A.

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Now, before we get into it, I’ll ask one more small favour. If you can, if you’d like, please drop a like on the stream. Please give it a share. I think this is a very important topic, so I think it’s something that people will probably enjoy. Well, I hope they do because I’ve prepared this thoroughly.

[02:35]

Now, before we start the stream and we go into all the things I want to talk about tonight, I’m going to first talk about what the stream isn’t. This stream is not an opinion piece. It’s not my opinions on whether we can win via the ballot box or whether we can’t. That’s not what it’s about. I’m here to present facts or try to present facts and evidence that illustrate the way the system works and how the system is not conducive to smaller parties winning.

In fact, the system is not conducive to anything other than the two party sort of oligarchy that we see at the top. And I want to talk about that and present facts and evidence.

So I’m not here tonight to tell you what to do. This isn’t me firing up the stream and saying:

“I don’t want you guys doing this or you guys shouldn’t do this or you shouldn’t spend your time campaigning this way. You should spend your time campaigning this way!”

That’s up to you, really. I want to present facts and evidence and I want you guys to look at those facts and evidence and you can decide for yourself how you spend your time.

If you want to go out there pounding the streets, putting out leaflets, boom! That’s up to you and that is absolutely your prerogative.

If, however, you watch the stream and you say:

“Mark, that adequately explains exactly why we have this problem with the democracy and why it doesn’t work. And I want to do community building, I want to help purchasing land with a Woodlander. I want to go and maybe move to a village in Italy where we’re buying an entire village out and we’re going to live there as a group.”

Whatever you choose to do, that’s up to you. I’m just here to present the evidence. Obviously, I know what I’m going to do. People know what I’m in favour of, it’s not here to shill for what I’m in favour of, it’s here to help you make an informed decision.

Now, finally, something else.

This isn’t going to be. I don’t want to move into the sort of realm of conjecture.

Now, a lot of people, when we talk about the electoral system, they start immediately saying things like:

“Oh, you know, they steal the votes, they take the votes, they open the ballot papers, it’s all rigged! It’s all done behind, you know, closed doors when those ballot boxes leave the voting booth, it’s all tampered with and by the time they get to the count, everything’s changed, etc. Etc.”

Well, I actually can’t prove that now. I’m not saying that doesn’t happen, I’m not saying that that’s never happened. I’m not saying that voting isn’t rigged in that way. I’m certainly not saying there isn’t a criminal conspiracy against our people. But I can’t prove that. I can’t prove that. I have no real evidence for that.

And fundamentally, because I don’t have evidence for it, I’m not going to present that as something tonight.

[05:29]

So if you’re coming here hoping for me to tell you what to do or to tell you about some grand conspiracy where votes are being stolen or ballot boxes are being opened or votes are being poured out into a river or burnt or replaced, I’m not going to give you any of that I’m going to talk about things that we can all agree on or verify that are visually observable. This is about the visually observable reality around us.

So why am I doing this stream? Well, I’m doing this stream to explain to nationalists why nationalist parties perform badly. And this is a question that people keep asking. I get people asking me all the time, why? I’m going to talk about a guy now that I like. He emails me a bit and I remember last year he was emailing me saying:

“It’s the time. There’s a feeling in the air, this is the time. People are now going to vote. Things are going to change. Everyone’s going to go out there and vote. Things are different now. We need to get on the ballot papers. Nationalist candidates are going to be elected left, right and centre. The time is now!”

And I said to him, I think you’re overestimating what’s going to happen. I think you’re off the mark on it for a number of reasons. I’ve got my reasons for saying that. And this guy is a really great guy. He wrote back to me a few days ago saying:

“You know what? You were right. Nationalists weren’t elected left, right and centre.”

And people then ask, why. Why when everything is so bad? Why when there’s record numbers of migrants? Why when the economy’s, you know, at a low? Why when there’s record inflation? Why when the Tories are so unpopular? Why when the LGBT agenda is being pushed down everyone’s throat? Why when all these horrible things are happening, are people still voting for the parties that rubber stamp all of this? Why aren’t people voting in nationalists left, right and centre?

Well, I intend to answer that question in a way that you guys are going to understand, and that will maybe help you guys either point people towards this stream or maybe you could articulate these points that I’m about to make to your friends and family. So I’m hoping this will be educational, helpful, maybe fun as well. [chuckling] It’s going to go on maybe for an hour and a half, 2 hours. It’s just going to be me.

So I hope you’ve got your cup of tea, your can of Red Bull, whatever you like, your glass of water. I’ve got my Red Bull. It’s half done already, but I’ve got a nice cool drink at the side of me because it’s a warm evening.

[08:00]

So let’s get into this. Now if you saw my initial advert for this stream, I broke things down into a number of different categories, categories that hopefully will allow you to follow my train of thought and to explain things. And when I’ve explained everything, I want to put everything into a historical perspective as well.

So I’m not just going to give you my thoughts. I’m not just going to go through all this and present the evidence. After I’ve done all that, I’m hoping that we can put all of this into perspective.

So first I’m going to talk about the electoral system. I’m going to talk about the First Past the Post system, how it tends to produce a two party system. I’m going to talk about the media’s role, I’m going to talk about safety valve parties. I’m going to talk about turnout.

When we’ve discussed all those things, I’m going to do a breakdown of recent nationalist results. Then I’m going to talk about historical perspective, about the one party that did do well in elections and that was the British National Party. And when I’ve done that, I’m going to briefly touch on why things are different in Europe or why people suggest things are different in Europe and then we’ll do Q and A.

But first things first. Let’s talk about the electoral system itself.

And I’m going to start by talking about the First Past the Post electoral system and why the First Past the Post electoral system fundamentally is not a system of representative democracy. And I know what you’re saying:

“Well, Michael Gove said, if you say this, you’re an extremist!”

No, I’m a guy who’s giving you facts.

Now the First Past the Post system is what the vast majority of British elections have run on. First Past the Post applies to county councillors, city, district, borough councillors. They’re the vast majority of elected positions in this country.

And finally, it also applies to your general election candidates. They’re your big ones, they run Parliament. They ultimately have the say in how the country’s run. And First Past the Post is quite simple. Each area, whether it be a constituency, or a council ward, people go to vote and the candidate with the most votes wins. And immediately, that sounds fair. That sounds wonderful! And you might be thinking to yourself:

“What are you talking about here, Mark? How is this not fair? We go to the polls and people vote and the candidate who gets the most votes, he’s elected. That’s democracy!”

Well, let me explain why this is not a representative democracy. First and foremost, if you do not vote for the candidate who wins, your vote effectively becomes meaningless.

Now, let me illustrate with an example. Well, not an example. This is sort of an abstract of how this works.

[11:08]

So if you have ten candidates standing for election, and one of those candidates, just one of those candidates, gets 11% of the vote, and all other candidates get an equal share of the vote, an exactly equal share of the vote. The candidate with 11% is returned. He is the winner! Let’s say it’s a Parliamentary ward. He goes to Parliament, he is your Parliamentary representative. That means only 11% of the people who voted have representation in Parliament.

In fact, 89% of people who voted in that constituency are not represented, their views aren’t represented.

And in fact, they voted against. The vast majority voted against the guy who’s in power. That is a shocking indictment of this system!

But it gets worse. Let’s say the turnout was 50%. That means it wasn’t 11% of people who are being represented. It means 5.5% of people actually have representation in Parliament, and 94.5% of the people in that constituency didn’t vote for the person who’s representing them. And a huge number, the people who did, voted against him. That sounds pretty bad, but believe it or not, it gets even worse!

Because we’re talking here about people who are on the electoral register. They’re the only ones that appear in those statistics. And we don’t know how many people aren’t on the electoral register. There are plenty of people who aren’t even registered to vote. And if you’re not registered to vote, you still exist. You still have wants, needs, desires, you still require some form of representation.

So, in fact, you have a guy in this case, going to Parliament with 11% of the popular vote, 5.5% of the electorate voted for him, and that number is shrunk even further by an indeterminable factor, because not everyone is registered to vote. That is how the First Past the Post system works.

The First Past the Post system works in a way that fundamentally does not give representation.

Now, I know what you’re thinking:

“Look here, Mark, maybe that works like that in your abstract, but how does it work in the real world? You know, surely it’ll work like that in some cases.”

Yeah. People sometimes get elected with, you know, 30% of the vote, and sometimes people get elected with 40% of the vote:

“But surely when you take things on a national level, these things even out, and it works out.”

No, it doesn’t! It doesn’t work out at all!

So we’re going to take an actual real world case study now. And we’re going to take the 2015 general election, because the 2015 general election is a great example, and it’s one you will all remember. It’s in recent living memory, very recent memory. And you guys will remember it for a reason. Hopefully. Hopefully, you will remember this election for a reason.

So the Conservatives got to power with a majority. They won 330 seats. There’s 350 seats in Parliament. They had a five seat majority, they took 330 of the seats in Parliament, and they got there with a 36.9 percentage share of the vote. So if we’re rounding that up to 37%, that means 63% of people who voted, voted for other parties voted against the Conservatives, effectively. So here you see the effects of the First Past the Post system.

The First Past the Post system creates these minority governments, because although it was a majority, it didn’t have the majority of the support. This wasn’t a 50, 60% of people voted Conservatives. No.

[15:43]

Now, if you said to the public, well, the Conservatives won the general election with a majority in 2015. And I said:

“And if you said to them, what percentage did they take nationally?”

I think people would say:

“Oh, maybe 50%, maybe 60%.”

No! 36.9% of the vote, and they took 11, 300. Sorry, 11 million 334, 726 votes. Labour took 30.4% of the vote and they took 232 seats. And that worked out at 9, 347, 324 votes.

But let’s look a bit further down. The party that came fifth were Nigel Farage’s party at the time, which was UKIP at the time. He obviously left UKIP, but at the time, he was the leader of UKIP. UKIP took 12.6% of the vote. They took 3, 881,099 votes.

Now, to the people in the chat, do you know how many seats they won? One! They won one single seat! One single seat. How crazy is that? Nearly 4 million people voted for them. They got just over a third of the share of the vote that the Conservatives did. But the Conservatives took 330 seats! And UKIP took one. And it wasn’t really a UKIP seat, it was a conservative defector who basically got re-elected off the back of the fact that he was a longstanding MP in his area.

So that tells you a little bit about the way the system is stacked. That tells you a little bit about the way the First Past the Post system does not result in representative democracy, but in fact results in a government that has a minority share. It doesn’t have a majority. Not of the voters, anyway. And a party that takes a third of the vote that the winning party took, ends up with virtually no representation gets one seat. One seat compared to the Conservatives, 330 seats.

So this illustrates immediately that the First Past the Post system is broken. It’s not really representative. Not only is it not representative, it allows for minority representation. And I’m using the word “minority” because we’ll come back to that. I think you can guess where we’re going with that word.

So what does this lead to, then? Well, it leads to a situation where people vote tactically, and by voting tactically, people will look at the spread and say:

“I don’t want to waste my vote.”

And you must have heard this before. Anyone who’s been involved in politics, and I’ve been involved in politics politics pretty much more than anyone on the sort of quote, unquote, “dissident”. Right. And by that, when I say involved in politics, I mean I’ve been involved in campaign politics. I was involved in more council election victories and more electoral wins than probably anyone else in this country ever.

[19:21]

Because if I wasn’t directly involved in the campaign, which I was often, I was the guy who did the leaflets. I was the guy that did the leaflets for the MEPs who won. I was the guy that did leaflet for Richard Barnbrook. I was the one who designed all the propaganda for the Barking and Dagenham campaign, where we won twelve councillors and we won overnight. And I have canvassed in the West Midlands, I’ve canvassed in Yorkshire, I’ve canvassed in the northwest. I’ve been all over the country, so I’ve seen this!

But if you’ve spoken to anyone, you will have seen and heard these things, too. You will have heard exactly what I’m saying now.

“It’s a wasted vote! I didn’t vote for you because it’s a wasted vote!”

And I’ve heard that thousands and thousands of times:

“This is a wasted vote. I’m not wasting my vote. I’m not voting BNP because it’s a wasted vote!”

That’s what people used to say. And I’d say:

“What do you mean, a wasted vote?”

“So you’re only going to get 5%. So what’s the point in voting for you? You can’t win! I want Labour out. You can’t win. So if I vote for you, I’m helping Labour. So I’m going to vote for the Tories.”

And I heard that in other places, but the opposite way around:

“You can’t win, and I want the Tories out. So rather than giving you 5.1%, I’m going to throw my weight behind the next biggest party to try and unseat the party I don’t like.”

People are very aware of this. People are aware of not wasting their votes.

And I remember the first time I went to vote, I looked down the ballot paper, it was actually for a European election, and I saw Conservatives and I thought:

“Oh, should I vote for those? And I saw you. I think I’m going to vote for them instead!”

And I saw the BNP logo. I was like:

“I’m voting for them. I’m voting for the BNP!”

And I voted BNP.

And I was really happy.

And even though the BNP didn’t win, I thought:

“Well, I’ve put my tick in the right box and people are going to see if enough people vote BNP, that there are people out there who do want change, there are people who want an end to migration, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.”

But it doesn’t work like that. If you’re not voting for a winning candidate, your vote doesn’t count, as we just said. So people say:

“Don’t waste your vote. Don’t vote for a party that can’t win. You should only vote for a party that can win! Vote for the party that can get the party that you don’t like out of power!”

There’s this desire to be on the winning team, a desire to create change. And people understand. You see, the electorate, nationalists often say:

[21:50]

“Oh, the electorate is stupid! The electorate don’t know what they’re doing. They’re idiots!”

That’s not true. The electorate do understand that. If you’ve ever knocked on doors, they will throw this in your face:

“You’re a small party, you’re not going to win! Why would I waste my vote on you?”

And I’ve knocked on so many doors. I’ve heard that, I’ve tried to argue with these people. I’ve said to them:

“Well, if you don’t vote for change, at some point you’re going to end up with these same two parties.”

And they’re aware of that. But the wasted vote is a big, big issue. Tactical voting is a big issue.

And this leads to this horrible situation where people are voting for the lesser of two evils.

“Oh, I really don’t like Labour, so I’m going to vote Conservatives!”

“I really hate the Conservatives. I’m going to hold my nose and vote Labour because I just want to get Sunak out of there!”

This is a major problem. It’s the flaw, the fundamental flaw of the First Past the Post electoral system. And now you’re thinking to yourself, I said earlier that I wasn’t going to present just my opinions, I was going to present facts. And I have. Now, as I’ve just said, I’ve campaigned on the street all over the country and been involved in more electoral wins than probably any nationalist alive today.

So what’s that taught me? Well, it’s actually taught me that everything I’ve just said is not only true from a public perspective, but it’s actually true from a party political perspective.

So when we used to walk around leafleting, you would often find other parties leaflets sort of hanging out of mailboxes and certain cheeky BNP members would pull them out and pocket themselves:

“I’ll pull that out, keeping that!”

Sort of a a cheeky little way to put yourself ahead.

And I remember seeing Lib Dem leaflets. And Lib Dems, although Lib Dems were completely aware of everything I’ve just said, and not only were they completely aware of it, they played into it. The Liberal Democrats actually played on this fear of a wasted vote that I’ve just been talking about.

So the Liberal Democrats knew, or know what I’m saying is true and they play up to it. They actually put this on their leaflets. So I’ve had Lib Dem leaflets in my hands that have shown a little graphic and they always used to have things on it like:

“Lib Dem’s winning here! Lib Dems, we’re the only ones that can beat labour! If you want the Conservatives out, don’t waste your vote. Vote Lib Dem!”

And they’d always have these little graphics and the graphics would often be something like a horse race with little jockeys on the back of the horses. And there would be the Labour horse, and the Labour horse would be near the line, the Lib Dem horse would be just behind Labour, and the Conservatives would be way back in the distance and they would say:

“Only the Lib Dems can beat Labour in this ward. Don’t vote for the Tories! It’s a wasted vote!”

They would play up to this. And I’ve seen Labour leaflets that have said similar things on it. They sometimes have these little graphs on, you know:

“Lib Dems are on 42%, Labour on 41%, Tories are on … whatever! Sort of 10%, others negligible! Don’t waste your vote! If you want to get rid of the Lib Dems, if you want to swing this council, vote Labour. Because we’re the only ones that can stop Lib Dems!”

And Lib Dems and Labour, they did this in Leeds. They did this in Leeds. I used to see these leaflets all the time. I’ve had them push through my door. I’ve had activists give them to me. This is something that regularly happens. So it isn’t just my observation. These aren’t just my takes. This is something that the other parties play up to.

The other parties are keenly aware this. The other parties are keenly aware of the flaws in this system, and they play up to it to lock out smaller parties.

[25:49]

Now, I’m going to give you another example.

Now, I used to know a girl whose dad I used to talk to a little bit about politics, and he was very much our way of thinking. He was a nice guy, she was our way of thinking.

And I remember speaking to them before an election and they said to me:

“Who should we vote for?”

Now, I knew there wasn’t really any nationalist candidates going to be standing, so I said:

“Look, if I was you guys, I’d vote UKIP, I’d vote UKIP because it’s your way of sending a message, a protest, that you want things to change. It’s your way of saying ‘no’ to the two party system.”

And the girl was like:

“That’s a good point. We should do that. Actually, I’m going to tell my dad that that’s who we should vote for. He was asking what your opinion was.”

So she went and told him what I said. She came back to me and says:

“Oh, no, he’s not voting UKIP!”

I said:

“Why not?”

“Because he’s going to vote Labour.”

“Why would he vote Labour? Why would he vote Labour?”

And she said:

“Well, he says that if you don’t vote Labour, your vote automatically goes to the Conservatives.”

Now, at the time, I was like, this is complete nonsense! And I just put this down to Labour, spreading this lie to get more votes and going to people who are maybe a little bit gullible or would believe things like this to get more votes.

But over the years, this sort of stuck with me, and I ruminated on this for a while. Now I think this guy actually misinterpreted what he was told. I think he heard something and, like, Chinese whispers he regurgitated it in the wrong way to me. And what he was actually told was:

“If you don’t vote Labour, you’re effectively voting for the Conservatives.”

[27:28]

So if you vote UKIP, and you were a Labour voter, you’re actually – because UKIP aren’t going to win – you’re actually taking Labour down by one, which means their vote is dropping closer and closer to the Conservatives.

And this is what people actually think! And this wasn’t a super political guy. He wasn’t going to nationalist meetings, he wasn’t reading Julius Evola, he was a normal guy, like, going down the pub, talked a bit of politics, didn’t like immigration, and he was keenly aware that if he didn’t vote Labour, he was actually helping the other party get in. And he really hated the Tories! This was a guy that grew up in the Thatcher era and couldn’t stand Maggie Thatcher, and he would never vote conservative! And he was like:

“Look, I’m never, never supporting the Tory Party! And if I vote for somebody other than Labour, I’m helping those Tories get closer to power!”

And, yeah, that’s what normal people think.

So the First Past the Post system is inherently undemocratic! And it’s not only inherently undemocratic, but it’s actually something that locks smaller parties out. It makes it infinitely harder for smaller parties to get representation. And even when a smaller party like UKIP takes nearly 4 million votes, it results in a single seat. And a result like that reinforces in the minds of normal people why UKIP or any other smaller party is a wasted vote, when it shouldn’t.

So I hope that sort of circles that off.

The first point is we live under a First Past the Post electoral system for the vast majority of our elections. It’s not representative democracy, it’s not designed to be, and it results in minority governments, it results in tactical voting, it results in people worrying about wasting their votes.

And essentially, it leads to the next point on our list of things we want to discuss.

It naturally tends towards a two party system. The First Past the Post system of voting creates a two party system, and then it props up that two party system. We’ve seen it! People tend toward the two largest parties, they tend towards the lesser of two evils:

“I’m voting Labour because the Tories really suck! I’m voting Tory because Labour were really bad on immigration! I’m voting for Labour this time because Sunak messed up the economy! Well, didn’t you vote for the Tories because Brown and Blair messed up the economy? Wasn’t the credit crunch the reason you voted Tory? There was all the credit crunch stuff, but now you’re voting them out because you think Labour are going to do a great job at fixing the economy, which was the problem last time!”

And this is the big issue, people voting for the lesser of two evils and flip flopping between two main parties, because otherwise it’s a wasted vote!

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And this leads to those two large parties becoming more similar, to the point where they become what is known as “centrist parties”. So a centrist party is a party that sits a millimetre, …

So if you. This is a simplistic way of looking at things, and I know people are going to be saying:

“You can’t plot your political allegiances on a straight line from right to left.”

But that’s what we’re going to do for the sake of this.

So if you looked at a graph and you say, on this side, which is my left hand side, you’ve got your extreme Left. On this side, you’ve got your extreme Right. And right there, right down the middle, is your centre line. When you have a two party system, you end up with one party that is one millimetre to the left of the central line and one party that is one millimetre to the right of the central line. And you end up with two parties that say exactly the same thing, but are painted in different colours, and one attempts to appeal to everything to the left of that line and one attempts to appeal to everything to the right of that line.

And this leads to a situation where both parties push exactly the same agenda! And there is never change. And we’ve touched on something else here. People have short memories! So if people gave up on Labour 10, 15 years ago, they’re soon enough ready to give Labour another chance.

Now, again, this might just be anecdotal evidence, but I have campaigned all over Yorkshire.

Now, I went for dinner with an old friend the other day, it was a lovely dinner. Went out for lunch, talked about politics, talked about PA. He’s very enthusiastic about it. You know, he’s an old BNP man. And we were reminiscing about the old times, about knocking on doors in parts of Yorkshire. And he reminded me of a particular campaign.

And I remember I was very active in that campaign. I was there most nights of the week, and I was definitely there all weekend. And I was there in a suit, shirt and tie, knocking on doors, speaking to people. And it was a Labour area that the BNP ended up winning a council seat in.

And I remember that because I remember speaking to people in that campaign, and I remember people telling me:

“I will never vote Labour again! I’ve had enough! I’ve had enough. Nope! I’m never voting, … I’ll vote BNP, but I’ll never vote Labour again!”

This is what they said. And this would have been, I don’t know, maybe 2004, 2005, sometime in the two thousands, anyway. And these people were so sick of Labour politicians of Blair and Brown! They were sick of the Iraq war, they were sick of Britain’s foreign involvement in issues that didn’t concern them. They were sick of what was at the time massive numbers of migration, obviously dwarfed by migration now. They were never going to vote Labour again.

They’re now voting Labour again! They’re now the people that have just actually, by majority, voted in a Labour Mayor for West Yorkshire. That [chuckling] tells you everything they forgot. People are saying, this time, when the Tories go down, it’ll all be forgotten. It’ll never be forgotten. Rishi Sunak will sink them for good. Will he? Will he?

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People said when Thatcher got in in 79, that was the end of Labour. But Labour were back in 97. And when Labour got in 97. People said the Tories were so corrupt, they were so awkward, awful! The cash for questions, the scandals, the sleaze! Because that’s what sank them:

“No one will ever vote Tory again after everything they’ve done!”

Yet, in 2010, they voted the Tories in again. And when they voted the Tories in, people were like:

“This is what we need. We need a change. Get Blair and Brown out. They’ve ruined the economy. They flooded the country. We’ll never forget what Blair and Brown! Seeing all these young soldiers coming back in boxes. We don’t want this. These people destroyed the country!”

That’s what people were saying.

And now here we are, staring down the barrel of a general election in 2025. Where Labour looks set to win, what will be a Thatcherite, or what looks today to be a Thatcherite or Blairite majority. Who would have thought it? Who would have thought that 14 years after the Tories were elected, people would be forgiving the party of Blair and Brown? But they’re embracing Starmer in record numbers for more of the same. More of the same!

So don’t think this two party system is easy to break up. The two party system is created by the First Past the Post system. It’s then propped up by the First Past the Post system. It creates this centrism where you have two identical parties and then people, by design, flip flop between those parties who basically rubber stamp exactly the same policies. And these people have short memories, you know, 10, 15 years down the line, they are ready to kick out the people that they voted in, and re elect the party that 10, 15 years ago they kicked out and vowed never again! This is a problem! And this is a reality of our system. And it’s another reality, just like the First Past the Post system that locks smaller parties out.

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Now, the third thing I want to talk about is if it wasn’t bad enough that we lived under a First Past the Post system, if it wasn’t bad enough that this created this two party system which is unbreakable and hasn’t been broken post Second World War, you then look at the media’s role in elections. Because not only is the system terrible, not only are the main parties corrupt, best friends, and colluding to create this two party system where they scare people into not wasting their votes. The media makes all this so much worse by interfering and preventing any kind of freedom of information.

And what do I mean by “freedom of information”? Will the media work around this two party system to ensure that only the approved parties get airtime? And this is a massive problem! Is there a debate on TV? Yes, there will be. Between the approved parties. What will be their topics of discussion? Those issues will be decided on beforehand. Who decides upon those issues? Who decides who are the approved parties? Well, the media. The media who work with the approved parties, and love the first past opposed system and approve of all of the policies that the two approved parties agree to talk about. And this creates the absolute iron control over information!

Now, my dad was talking about this years ago and I remember him saying this at the time, and this was something that always struck me as so important.

And again, this is an observation of mine, but I think it’s pretty factual.

So I’m going to throw this out to you guys in the chat. How many times have you guys, just hit a one in the chat? How many times have you guys, if you guys ever watched one of these TV debates, have you guys ever watched an election debate on TV done by the BBC or ITV? Have you? I hope you have. You know, tell me if you have. What do they talk about in these debates? It’s always minutiae. It’s always minutiae! That would never make a damn bit of difference!

So one party is gonna spend an extra billion on the NHS, but is going to put tax up a penny on the pound for a certain tax bracket.

The other party, they’re not going to spend a billion on the NHS, but they are going to reduce the tax burden by a penny on every pound.

Does it make any difference? What are they actually talking about? Well, when you put this all into perspective, the NHS is billions and billions of pounds in the hole. It swallows billions and billions of pounds every year. 1 billion to the NHS would basically belittle more than a bandage over the festering wound. It doesn’t matter! And what’s your penny on your tax? Does the average worker notice this penny here, penny there?

And this is what they do with fags and booze. I don’t drink. I have the odd drink if it’s a particular occasion, but I don’t go down the pub. I certainly don’t smoke, nor do I recommend people should smoke.

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But one of the ways these parties will try to win people over, is one of these parties, one of these parties will say:

“You know what? We’re only going to increase. We’re only going to increase cigarette and alcohol duty by a penny!”

And the other party says:

“Well, we’re going to increase cigarette duty by a penny, but we’re going to freeze alcohol duty!”

What? What? They’re actually arguing over a penny on your pint. So if a pint’s three pounds, okay, you would have to, if you voted for the party, that’s saving you a penny on your pint, you’d have to drink 300 pints. [chuckling] 300 pints to get a free pint back! Does it matter? Are you ever going to notice?

But the way they talk about these things, it’s total theatre, it’s total nonsense!

But then the public are talking about:

“I’m voting for the red party because they’re going to give it to the NHS and my mum needs a hip replacement!”

And then the other guys:

“No, I’m voting for the blue party. They’re freezing duty on alcohol. I’m getting a penny off each pint I drink!”

And you’re like, aahhh! Am I actually hearing this? Am I actually hearing these grown men arguing over this tiny, inconsequential minutiae when there are so many huge problems? And am I actually seeing an audience of grown adults cheering, clapping, applauding and going along with it? And it’s terrible!

And what makes it even worse is that audience I just told you about, they were all vetted before they came in, so they know when to cheer, what to cheer for, what questions to ask, because they’re never going to let a normal person in front of a TV camera to say:

“Hey, you know, my daughter has to go to school and she gets harassed on the way in there by the migrants sleeping rough on the side of the street on her route to school. When are you going to do something about this?”

They don’t let that happen. They’ll never talk about these big issues.

And what’s more, the media never hold them to account.

So not only do the media only cover the approved parties, not only do they decide upon the issues beforehand, not only do they control the debates and control the studio audience around the debate and decide who actually gets to speak to the politicians, they airbrush out all the politicians failings, airbrush it all out! Covid didn’t happen! Tory. Immigration. Promises of getting immigration under 100,000 a year, didn’t happen! Forget that. What about promises? I don’t know. On anything else? On the economy, on the NHS? Every time one of these political parties fails to make good on their promises, the media covers for it.

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So you have the First Past the Post system of voting. You have this two party system that creates this centrist, immovable block that people are scared of voting outside of it, and then that’s all surrounded by the media who are telling people:

“This is normal, these are the approved things. This is what people want to hear. People don’t want to talk about immigration, people only want to talk about a penny on the pint. People want to ask, how long are you freezing fuel duty for? What? We need fuel duty to go down. We’re paying one pound 46 a litre at the pump. Why don’t you knock something off it? Oh, no, no! The Tories are going to freeze it for six months. Labour only for three months. Oh, better vote Tory, then!”

And it’s the same hogwash again and again and again! And then if the media do get someone on who is an outsider, if the media actually do get somebody on, all of a sudden this toothless, smiling simpleton who has interviewed the Labour and Tory candidates with smiles and softball questions that were so easy to answer that somebody with an IQ of 75 would have managed to knock them out the park. All of a sudden they show their teeth. The vampire teeth come out and they go in for the kill:

“Your candidate in Greenwich said this. You said this when you were 21. Didn’t your party have a member who once said this?”

And you’re thinking to yourself:

“What’s going on?”

They didn’t ask the Labour Party leader, Kier Starmer, why he let numerous high profile paedophile cases go unanswered and just wave them away. They’re not asking him that affected people’s lives. You’re talking about a candidate that we’ve got in Greenwich that posted an NG meme the other week. What are you doing? You know, Bill from Greenwich, he posted a meme about the British Royal Navy sinking a migrant boat. But you’re talking about that like it’s the end of the world. But you’re ignoring the fact that the Labour Party took us into the Iraq war on, you know, bogus information and lies, that their new leader basically let people like Jimmy Savile walk free. You’re ignoring the fact they covered up the grooming scandal. You’re asking them, how great will life in Britain be under you, Sir Kier. But to the nationalist guy, don’t you have a candidate that once posted the edgy meme? What? And it gets worse!

Because, as I said, I’ve got more experience than most. I remember standing in Leeds and the front page of the newspaper the day before the election was a big picture of me and it simply read:

“Don’t vote for this Nazi!”

So the media that are meant to be impartial, these are meant to be the people that impart the facts.

So the public can decide absolute BS!

They are completely corrupt! They feed everyone lies. They put on this pageantry that I’ve just spoken of and sometimes they literally tell people:

“Okay, we’ve got a two party system, but this guy here in Richmond Hill, in Leeds, we think he could win. We think he could win. So don’t vote for this Nazi!”

It’s completely corrupt! It’s absolutely corrupt to the highest level!

So that’s the first three points. First Past the Post system, the two party system and the media’s role. And I bet you’re thinking, it can’t get worse, can it, Mark? Whoo. It gets worse!

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So all of this is created to ensure that this two party system is created, held in place. There’s never any proper debate, there’s never any oversight. And you have your information, you know, filtered through the sewage pipe of the media. But just in case all of that doesn’t work, just in case all of that does not work, [chuckling] you’ve got the safety valve parties.

So they are nervous because they think:

“Well, maybe, maybe there’s a chance that some people will vote outside of the mainstream.”

So they create parties that say things that nationalist parties do, and then they give those parties huge amount of airtime, so nationalists vote for them rather than the nationalist alternative.

Now, I know UKIP got huge. I know UKIP got huge and I’m talking about UKIP, Brexit Party before, and I know UKIP got huge. But back around, 2004, before the Euro elections, no one was talking about UKIP. No one cared about UKIP. People cared about the BNP. The BNP had its first councillors elected in 2002. It got more in 2003. People were buzzing about the BNP’s potential! The BNP was huge news.

Then all of a sudden, it came to the Euro elections, where they won a rare election that was run on PR. Sadly, they’re gone now.

So that’s that Avenue’s closed to us. And what happened? All of a sudden, the media, total blackout on the BNP:

“UKIP are going to do well. If you want to vote against immigration, if you want to vote against Europe, vote UKIP. Forget the BNP!”

They didn’t even say forget the BNP. They just stopped talking about the BNP.

So this big threat that had been looming, the party that everyone was scared of, the party that all the scare stories had been written about, the party that was actually winning council seats, they stopped covering. And the safety valve is rolled out and everyone voted UKIP.

And at that point, the BNP didn’t get any candidates elected at the Euro election. The BNP was projected to, but the safety valve party comes out.

So this makes things even worse. And the media plays play this up.

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So it was always the same. Two or three months before a European election, all of a sudden, UKIP reappeared. Farage was on everything. He was invited on every single chat show, every discussion show. The Daily Mail would be running puff pieces for him, the Express would be running puff pieces for him. Nick Griffin’s face was airbrushed out of everything:

“No one talk about the BNP!”

And the public believe it. The public are like:

“What? What the media is saying there’s a chance we could maybe vote for somebody different here. Who is this? Who is this bold challenger? What? And they’re against immigration!”

And you’re the little guy in the BNP going:

“We’re against it too! You know, we’re the ones who’ve been telling you about this for the last five, six years. We’d be the ones knocking on your doors. We were the ones winning council seats. Vote for us!”

But people didn’t.

And I remember in 2004, we actually had a family, lovely family in Leeds, join he BNP.

And I remember going and visiting them when they joined to say, would you like to come to a meeting and introduce ourselves? And we said:

“Oh, did you vote for us locally? And this family were a family that lived in Richmond Hill, which was my ward. And they said:

“Yeah, of course we did, Mark, mate, we had a poster in the window for you. We told our friends to vote for you.”

I was like:

“Thank you so much! Thank you so much!”

And he goes:

“But we didn’t vote for you in the Euros.”

I was like:

“What? What? Why?”

And he was like:

“Well, UKIP had a better chance. Everyone was talking up UKIP. UKIP were the ones that seemed to be a shoe-in for that election.”

And I was like:

“Well, thank you for your vote.”

But if everybody who had voted BNP locally and was so enthusiastic about BNP at the local elections had voted BNP in the Euro elections, I think we’d have got a seat there. I think we’d have actually got a seat back in 2004. But we didn’t because the “safety valve” was rolled out, just like they’re rolling out Reform now, just like they rolled out the Brexit Party.

And people will say:

“Hey, Mark, but you keep calling a ‘safety valve’. How can you prove it’s not a legitimate party?”

Well, I can actually prove it’s not a legitimate party. How? Well, at the last general election, when, was it the Brexit Party at the time were challenging against Boris Johnson, they actually looked like they were going to swing marginal seats.

So there are marginal seats where there’s only a thousand or so votes between Labour and Tory. And the Brexit Party, if it had stood in those marginal seats, it would have split the Tory vote and it would have destroyed the Tory Party. Boris wouldn’t have got in. It would likely have been a hung Parliament, or even taken it close, maybe to Corbyn actually winning. So what did the Brexit Party do? As soon as the Brexit Party could actually have some kind of decisive effect on the election, Farage and the Brexit Party withdrew all their candidates! Well, if that’s not a safety valve. If that’s not proof of a safety valve party, if that’s not proof that it’s rigged in that sense with a safety valve, that when that safety valve looks like it might present a threat to the system, it withdraws.

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Now, the Brexit Party did stand. The Brexit Party did stand, but they withdrew all their candidates from marginal wards to ensure that the Conservative Party didn’t lose seats.

So people did vote Brexit Party, but only in seats where it would have no effect whatsoever!

Do you see where I’m coming with this? This is the system we live under. So we’ve got, First Past the Post, boom! Bad system, not representative! The two party system! The media propping it all up.

And then just in case anything looks like it might go wrong, you have the “safety valve” parties.

So that’s why the system is so difficult for nationalists to actually crack.

Now, I didn’t go in to anything here about vote rigging. I didn’t go into any sort of fanciful stories about stealing ballot boxes. I’ve stuck completely here to actual things that you guys can observe.

And I hope that this portion of what we’re saying has been interesting. And I hope it’s been informative.

But there’s a lot more to come.

I’m just going to have a little bit of my Red Bull and then we’re going to have some more. It’s a very hot day here. It’s a very hot day here.

So I’m going to talk about the turnout now.

Now, one of the copes that nationalists have is that turnout is low. Turnout’s low, people aren’t voting.

And one of the takes that I see rolled out every now and again, well, every now and again, quite regularly, whenever I talk about elections, one of the popular copes or takes is:

“The real winner is apathy! Apathy was the real winner of this election!”

Now this is basically what people say when they’re kidding themselves into thinking that there’s loads of people who want to vote but they’re not voting. And there’s this vanguard of people just waiting for the right party to come along and then all of a sudden turnout is going to go through the roof and nationalist parties are going to be elected. So usually it’s 50% turnout, but when the Right nationalist candidate stands, turnout is going to jump to 90%, he’s going to pick up all the votes and boom! Revolutionary voting patterns!

No, this is garbage. It doesn’t happen. People have been saying this for my entire time in nationalist politics.

So when I was first out leafleting, which is probably back at around, 2000, people were saying:

“We just need the people who aren’t voting to get out and vote.”

And here we are in 2024. And those people who weren’t voting in the year 2000, they ain’t voting now either. They ain’t voting now.

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And what’s more, turnout isn’t that low. I saw turnout in a lot of areas was usually around 30% to 40%. 30% to 40% was generally around the norm when I used to stand in Leeds. You’d see about 36%, 34%, sometimes high twenties now. Yeah, turnout is a bit lower in some areas, I’ll grant that, but turnout is low for council elections.

And a lot of people who say “Apathy’s the winner” don’t really understand electoral cycles.

Now, in the area where I live, there was no information about the elections. I think we got two leaflets through the door that the entire electoral run, we got our polling cards through the door and we didn’t see anything else. There was No campaigning on the day, no loudspeaker vans, no posters, no placards, nothing! No buzz, no razzmatazz, nothing! It was just there and then it wasn’t there. That causes low turnout.

But let me explain how turnout works, and I hope you understand this because I’m going to use an analogy.

Now, I hope you’re all familiar with the World Cup.

So the World Cup happens in different stages. You have the World Cup qualifiers where all the teams play in-groups to find out who’s actually going to get to the World Cup. Then when they get to the World Cup, teams get put into groups and they play the World Cup group stages. Usually two teams go through from each group and they enter the World Cup knockouts. Teams advance through the knockout stages until the semi-finals, and then finally you get the big day, the World Cup Final!

Now, why am I bringing up football? Because I don’t really like football. It’s okay, but it’s not my favourite thing. So why am I bringing it up? Well, the number of people who watch a World Cup final is absolutely humongous! So potentially billions of people. Somebody can Google it. Billions of people probably watch the World Cup final.

In fact, I’m going to Google it. “How many people watched last World Cup final?” Last World Cup final was watched by 1.5 billion people globally. That’s huge! That’s huge! And those people, you might say they’re football fans. But where were those people when the World Cup qualifiers were? Because they weren’t watching. And they weren’t watching, really, in the group stages. A few more watched in the knockout stages, a lot more watched in the semi-finals, but the big turnout was, for them, the big one, the World Cup final.

So, yeah, people who are football fans, they tend to have fewer people watching the qualifiers, few more watching the group stages, because the World Cup’s officially started. A lot more watching the knockouts, a lot more watching the semi-finals and then huge numbers watching the World Cup final. That’s how it works. Not everyone who watches the final watches every other game. Now there are hardcore people who turn out and watch every single game. They’ll watch from the qualifiers right through to the final. That’s rare. And it’s the same with elections.

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Now in this country the World Cup final is the general election. And you cannot miss a general election. It’s all the media talks about. It’s all the press talks about. It’s all over social media. There’s billboards, there’s posters, there’s loudspeaker vans. Your house is getting bombarded with leaflets that are delivered by Royal Mail on behalf of the main parties. There’s party political broadcasts, sometimes two a day. You cannot miss it! And turnout goes up massively! Turnout goes up massively! It goes through the roof. All of a sudden, your turnout is up to usually somewhere between 60 and 80%, depending on the constituency.

But when you have your councillor elections, or your European elections, or these smaller elections, turnout is much, much lower. These are sort of like your World Cup qualifiers, if you like. And you will see this again when it comes to the next general election and people get to go out and actually vote for a Parliamentary candidate, and it’s who’s going to run the country, not who’s going to decide where the dog poo bins go on the local council, who’s going to run the country? The stakes are higher, the buzz is more. This is the big one. People understand the importance of this. Turnout will go up, it always does.

So don’t look at the turnout of local elections and say:

“Normal people aren’t voting anymore because they’re just sat at home waiting for the Right candidate to come along.”

They’re not! And they won’t! You will see this happen in waves. It always happens this way. Council elections are often neglected and low turnout is often an indicator of the number of leaflets and the amount of publicity material that goes out around an election.

So these are relatively normal occasions.

And what’s more, you will find the same at Parliamentary by-elections. As a rule of thumb, Parliamentary by-elections have much lower turnouts than a general election. And because of that’s why you tend to have more upsets occur at Parliamentary by-elections than you do at general elections.

Now, bear in mind everything I’ve just said there, because we’re going to come back. We’re going to come back to that because this little thing about turnout comes back and bites us in the end, at the end of our story.

So now I’ve said all that I’m going to do a breakdown of our recent results and I’m going to talk about all the nationalist parties and I’m going to group Reform in that I’m going to ask, how did all the nationalist parties fare in the UK?

And I’m going to ruin the surprise. Reform got two candidates elected nationwide!

And as for ethno-nationalist parties, not a single ethno-nationalist party got a single candidate elected. And that leaves us with a total number of elected ethno-nationalist candidates in this country as a big fat round zero! There’s none! There isn’t a single councillor in this country who stood for an ethno-nationalist party. That is how it works. And that is the truth!

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So let’s go through them all. But look, I’m going to only mention two parties by name, the rest of the parties, because I’m not going to be accused of being bitchy. You can guess who the other parties are. I’m going to call them party 1, 2, 3, 4, etcetera.

So I’m not directly taking a dump on any party by name, except for Reform.

Now, reform got two people, candidates, elected nationally. That is appalling! Why is it appalling? Because that is the safety valve party. If the safety valve party, if the civic nationalist safety valve party can’t get elected, the ethno-nationalists aren’t either. That’s a rule of thumb, I’m telling you. And Reform should have knocked it out of the park. Reform have millions and millions of pounds. They’ve got Farage, they’ve got Katie Hopkins, they’ve had Conservative Party defectors, they’ve got Richard Tice on TV all the time. We’ve got the Daily Mail and the Daily Express bigging them up, and they’ve got GB News!

GB News is basically like Reform’s political, … You know how we have these streams. Well, that’s what GB News is for Reform. They’ve basically got a channel that’s on the air, I don’t know whether it’s 24/7 but they’ve got a full-time broadcasting channel shilling for them. They’ve got Farage on there, they’ve got Katie Hopkins shilling for them on Twitter, they’ve got defectors from the Conservative Party, and they’ve got a war chest that’s in the millions of pounds. And they got two people elected. That’s a disaster! It’s an absolute disaster! And if they flopped now, when it’s a low turnout, what are they going to do at the general election?

Well, I’ll tell you what, it’s going to be worse! The Reform Party did disastrously! And if the Reform Party, and I’ll tell you this now, people were talking about:

“Well, this time when people go out to vote, they’ll vote for anyone but the main parties!”

You know, we’re going to see a massive breakthrough here. And the same hurt the Left. Galloway’s party only got four elected. It wasn’t a good night for people on the Left or the Right outside of the mainstream. The big winners, Lib Dems, who jumped into second place, and Labour, who absolutely took the lion’s share, took over 1,000 candidates.

The fact of the matter is they did not do well.

Now, talk about the next party. We’ll call this party, party number one.

Now, this party had a good strategy and PA helped this party. They stood in police commissioner elections and they actually did all right. And you gotta guess this one. This one’s the English Democrats. So I say I’m gonna name two. I might as well name them. The English Democrats had a good strategy. They stood for police commissioner elections.

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Now, why is that a good strategy? Because there’s only two elected positions in the country which actually create change. What do I mean by that? Well, if you get elected as a sole councillor on the council, you make no change. Even an MP getting elected has a voice, but can’t actually make any form of legislative change.

So it was great when George Galloway got elected, but can he make any legislative change? No, he can’t. But a police commissioner can. If you were elected as police commissioner, you can actually sack the Chief Constable, you can decide whether budget spent, you get to employ your own team, and you actually get to ensure that the police in your area do as you’re telling them because you’re their boss. So that’s a position that is worth winning.

The other position that’s worth winning is a directly elected Mayor, because they have a similar power in that they can impose policy, they can impose all forms of local changes. So say an English Democrat got elected as a directly elected Mayor. They could say:

“Look, everyone gets a St George’s Day parade in the town.”

These are good positions to go for. But it wasn’t great.

You know, we helped Robin Tilbrook put out, in total, 45,000 leaflets were put out for the police commissioner election, for Robin Tilbrook. We put out between 30 and 35,000, and English Democrat activists put out another 10,000. I would say, in the chat, guess how many you think the Tories put out? Well, the Tories put out, I’m not going to make you guess. The Tories put out half a million! And yeah, you heard that right. And not only did they put out half a million, there was a section on every council candidate standing in that area saying:

“Don’t forget to vote for us for police commissioner elections as well!”

So they have half a million leaflets put out directly for the police commissioner, and they got a section on every single council election leaflet in that area as well.

So even though there was a Herculean effort of putting out this 45,000 leaflets, and that takes a lot of time, what did it result in? Well, Robin took a respectable result for such a large area and he took 45,000 votes. But unfortunately, it was a mile off. The Conservatives won. So that wasn’t a great result. It was hard fought, but it wasn’t a great result.

Now, the next party that I’m going to talk about, they got humiliated. The next party is a longstanding nationalist party. They’ve never in their whole history, and I think they were founded in about 2011. They’ve never had a councillor elected. I think they’ve had one councillor under their banner, but that was a councillor they inherited. It wasn’t a councillor that they directly got elected. So after over a decade of activity, they’ve never had anybody elected under their banner. And they stood two candidates. Neither of them got anywhere near winning sand they stood in the GLA as well.

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Now, I remember when Richard Barnbrook got elected to the GLA [Greater London Assembly], he took 5.4% and won a seat. And that was a massive thing! These guys took 0.8%.

Now, to get that 0.8% of the vote, they claim that they spent 35 grand.

Now, it cost ten grand just to go on the ballot paper. It cost another ten grand to go in the Mayoral booklet, so it’s probably factual they spent 35 grand to get around, 20,000 votes. And to get 0.8%. And they were beaten by a guy called Count Binface, who is the modern incarnation of the monster raving loony party. He’s a guy that turns up dressed in fancy dress with a bin for a head and like, a robot face cut into it. And he basically, the candidate I’m talking about, the nationalist, got beaten by this comedy candidate. And that’s terrible!

Now, I know it’s in London, and I know London’s only 36.8% White British, but to come away with 0.8% of the vote and get beaten by the comedy candidate, that’s grim! So Reform did terribly. The English Democrats big effort, but unfortunately didn’t do anything. And this party, 0.8%, beaten by Count Binface. And spent 35 grand to get humiliated.

The next party. This is another old party. This was a party that was formed when the BNP entered into decline in around, 20011. Again, they’ve been going well over a decade. Now they have had a couple of elected councillors and an MEP at one time. But they never got those councillors elected. These were just people who defected to them. Again, it’s another party that’s been going over a decade that has never, ever managed to actually get anybody elected under their own banner. They stood some candidates. Again, it didn’t go very well for them.

The next party is a newer party. It was a party that was formed by people who split away from PA. They did disastrously! They spent a year telling people that they’re going to be standing all over the country. They stood in one single seat! One! They said:

“We’re going to be standing everywhere. Local community politics is what we’re doing!”

Local community politics. They stood in one seat and they polled disastrously! They put a national campaign into one seat and polled disastrously! Their candidate got 569 votes and came second with, 23% when he stood as an independent. When they had a national mobilisation to get him elected under their banner, his vote dropped to 355 votes, his percentage share dropped to 13% and he was budged down into third place. That is a disaster!

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And these people were talking about local politics, local community policies, and that was a national effort. They had people travel over 200 miles to go campaigning for him. They had everything. They claimed they knocked on doors, they put out multiple leaflets, they put up placards all over the ward, and they got fewer votes when standing under their party banner and putting in a national effort than they did when the guy stood as an independent a year earlier. If that doesn’t tell you everything, what does?

Now, finally, there is another party again. People who used to be with PA, this party broke away. These guys didn’t even stand. These guys have said:

“No, we’re not going to be standing in council elections. Council elections are waste of time! We’re just going to stand in the big national elections, in the general election!”

Well, that’s ridiculous! To say that you’re not going to stand locally but you’re just going to leapfrog over everything and stand in the general election is absolutely ridiculous!

My prediction is these people who, again, have talked big about elections, I don’t believe they’ll even stand. And their leader himself has already said he ain’t going to stand. He’s not going to stand under his own party banner. I mean, why would he? This is the state of nationalism.

Every party I’ve just talked about there, and I haven’t named some of them because I don’t want to get involved in drama, but I have given you a genuine breakdown of their results, and all of them failed. And Reform got two people elected out of all of the candidates that stood.

And I’m going to give you a reality check here. I’m going to give you a reality check. Do, you know how many council candidates there are in Great Britain?

So basically, I’m going to break down what Great Britain is first. Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales. The United Kingdom is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. So this excludes Northern Ireland.

So we’re talking about Great Britain, the mainland.

Now, Great Britain has about 19,000 council seats. And there isn’t a single one in the hands of an ethno-nationalist party. Not a single one! And let’s say some of these small parties did win a council seat. Let’s say one of these parties that were putting in a huge national effort to win one council seat, won that council seat. One, would it make a difference? And two, this is even worse. What is the long term strategy?:

“Well, we’re going to win one council seat and keep going like that every year!”

Well, where does that get you in a thousand years? You’ve got a thousand candidates? It’s not a viable strategy, that’s all I’m going to say.

So this year’s results were the worst, or some of the worst I’ve ever seen! And nationally there are two Reform councillors and there are three people who stood for a strange offshoot of Reform called Reform Derby. They were elected last year.

So that’s maybe five people, part of some form of safety valve organisation, out of 19,000. It’s grim.

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So saying all that, we’ve got one thing left to discuss, or two things.

The first is a historical perspective. Let’s look at the history of the only party, the only party to ever succeed at the ballot box in any meaningful way under an ethno-nationalist banner. That’s the BNP. That’s the British National Party, who won at both local, regional and national elections!

So we’ve got to talk about these guys. We’ve got to talk about them. And look, I’m going to say this. I don’t like him, he doesn’t like me, he’s always sniping at me. But Nick Griffin was the leader of this party at the time. And when I first met him, I had nothing but admiration for him. And he had an electoral strategy. And that electoral strategy bore fruit for a short amount of time.

So I’m going to give you a brief history lesson.

The BNP did do well in the short term. It took 56 councillors, one county councillor, giving it a total of 57. It took a member on the GLA, Richard Barmbrook, and it returned two MEPs, two, to the European Parliament. That was massive! That was massive! And it seems really, really powerful, compared to what we’ve got now. And let’s talk about this. Let’s do a brief history. Let’s run through it really quickly.

Well, how did that happen? Well, Burnley in 2002 was where it all started, and there was three councils elected in Burnley.

And I’m not taking anything away from the Burnley guys. They put in a lot of hard effort. But do you know how that happened? Do, you know how that happened?

Well, I’m going to tell you. It wasn’t what people say. It wasn’t just a local revolution. In 2002, there was a quirk of the electoral system where every single ward in Burnley had its boundaries redrawn. So every single councillor was being elected. Usually councillors are elected for a four year period.

So there’s a year of elections, a year of elections, a year of elections, break, a year of elections, a year of elections, and it rolls around like that.

However, this particular year, the whole council was up for grabs. So instead of voting for one candidate, you voted for three. This quirk of the system meant that three BNP councillors got elected. Because the BNP ran a genius campaign that said:

“Vote for your usual party, but lend us one of your votes to create change.”

Now, that was an amazing win! And I’m not taking anything away from it. But it was a quirk of the system. It was a quirk of the system that helped us get in. Will there ever be a quirk of the system like that again? I don’t know.

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So the ball started rolling in Burnley, not just because of hard work, but because of luck and because of the quirk of the system. And you can’t ignore that it’s like saying:

“Well, we won the battle and our people fought hard, but, you know, it did happen to be raining that day and that really affected the other army, so they couldn’t mount their cavalry charge as they usually do.”

Well, yeah, you may have fought well and your troops do deserve all the credit that they are receiving, but you can’t overlook the fact there were other factors that led to that.

Now, following that, there were a number of by-elections that the BNP won. They won a by-election in Blackburn. I was on the ground and I designed many of the leaflets for that campaign, including a smear leaflet against the Lib Dems, which won’t worked absolutely fantastically!

There was also a by-election in [word unclear]. I was on the ground for that every single day. That was in Halifax and that was the coldest I’ve ever been in my life. I’ve spoken about that on stream before. And we won those. But what did we do to win those elections? Well, there was about 40, 50 activists from all over the country on the street almost every day. These efforts were massive! It wasn’t one or two people leafleting. These efforts were massive! And this took us through to 2004, and the European election.

Now, the European election was going to be big for us. This was where Nick Griffin was meant to be elected to the European Parliament, and he didn’t. It was a disaster and it knocked the wind out of our sails. The party was nearly destroyed then. Why? Safety valve! UKIP came out of nowhere, took a load of our votes. Nick Griffin missed out and the party went into this deep malaise, this deep depression.

There were a number of councillors elected that year, that softened the blow. But Richard Barnbrook narrowly missed out on the GLA as well. All of this was very, very difficult for our people. All of this made things a huge knock and the party did falter. I remember the aftermath of the 2004 European election. The party was on the brink of just going down the pan. It was absolutely terrible! And it did start to falter. And straightaway we went into the 2005 general election and that was not great either. The 2005 general election was not great either. But something saved the party. Two things.

Firstly, there was the there was a number of terrorist attacks committed by second generation migrants, migrants that were born here. And this had been something that the party had predicted and Nick Griffin himself had predicted in speeches. This caused people to start talking about the BNP.

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But then also myself and Nick Griffin were arrested. And that made absolutely huge national news and it caused outrage! The party was in the headlines again. People were talking about us being the ones that predicted these terror attacks. People were talking about the fact that we were being arrested for basically speaking the truth and we were never out of the press.

And that took us to 2006, Barking and Dagenham. And this was the BNP’s best ever year in terms of electoral results at local level. The party was flying high. Everyone was talking about Islamic migrant terrorism. Everybody was talking about Nick Griffin and Mark Collett and the free speech trial and this persecution. More people than ever were reading our website, wanting to know what we were doing. And Margaret Hodge went out campaigning and Barking and Dagenham. She was told by numerous people that were voting BNP. And she went into some rage fueled rant on TV saying:

“Eight out of ten people in this area considering voting BNP. I don’t know what’s gone wrong!”

I remember designing the leaflets for that campaign with Richard Barnbrook in a studio flat he used to live in Leeds. It was tiny. He slept on a fold out sofa, I slept on the bed. We were up from sort of like eight in the morning designing these leaflets. And they were massive, expensive, glossy, a four leaflets. And it was a real ethno-nationalist message on them.

The top picture was London on VE day. The parties at VE day, all White, then Barking and Dagenham, a market in the present day, just full of Muslims and other migrants. And it said:

“This is what London was, this is what it’s become. Is this what you voted for?”

And people voted BNP en masse. Overnight, we went from no councillors to being the official opposition on Barking council. I think we stood 13 seats, and twelve of those councillors got elected. If we’d have stood in every seat, well, it would have just been unbelievable! We were the official opposition, and Richard Barmbook and Bob Bailey, who were down there. One was in charge of Barking, Richard, and one was in charge of Dagenham, Bob. They were cock of the hoop! It was fantastic! It was absolutely a brilliant time!

Moving into 2007, though, our votes started to drop off a little bit. And this is where reality hit in. You know, you’d gone through 2002, you’d grown on that. In 2003, you’d have the by-electionsc also we built on it in Burnley. It gave people real confidence and we won more seats in Burnley in 2003. 2004, we won more councillors. But the European election was a disaster for us.

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But then there was this massive boost in publicity. There was Barking and Dagenham, there was councillors getting elected, it seemed, left, right and centre all over the country because of this publicity boost.

But 2007, things were different. Things started to slow down and the enemy had got a real measure of the BNP. So 2007 was the first year we actually started to see BNP candidates lose seats. So some got re-elected, but some start to lose their seats because the other parties ganged up on them. Hope Not Hate leafleted against them. And over time you could see this was a war of attrition. And we all thought that once we got councillors in an area, it would be constant growth. But it wasn’t. We started to see slightly lower votes. The free speech trial was still going on, but it was running it’s course. People weren’t buzzing about it anymore. Things were going a little bit downhill and we lost seats.

People like Jim Lewthwaite and Arthur Redfern, who’d been elected in 2004, lost their seats in 2007. And people were like:

“That’s really disappointing!”

We also saw a number of defections. We saw people throw in the towel when this happened. And things looked really a little bit less sure of itself. And this massive high that we saw Barking and what we thought was gonna be the beginning of the forever of just upward cycling, it wasn’t anymore. It just wasn’t.

And then we went into 2008.

Now, 2008 was a funny year because Richard Barnbrook did get elected to the GLA with 5.4%, which was massive news. But on the council seat side, the council growth had really slowed. And I told you we’d become a party of by-elections. We’re doing very well at these by-elections. We were bussing in 40, 50 activists to win these by-elections. And I used to go down, Nick Griffin would go down, other people would go down, we’d all be knocking on doors. It would be fantastic!

But those seats started to dry up. And the last ever by-election win came in 2008. And that was actually Paul Golding. He won a seat. I think it was in., … Was it Sevenoaks? Was it Sevenoaks? Was it Stevenage? I can’t, … It began with “S”.

But anyway, he won a seat then, but that was the last council by-election we ever won was in 2008. But people were still happy because Barnbrook got elected. It was 5.4%. I designed the Mayoral insert, and we used the same leaflet we used in 2006. So me and Richard Barmbert, we designed a sort of a take on this leaflet that done really well, that showed London on VE Day and London in the modern day. And we asked people all over London, you know:

“How’s it going?”

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And I remember we used to travel down and we would have, you know, 100 to 200 activists out on the streets over a single weekend. All the members of staff would travel down, Griffin would go down and activists from all over the country. Some would come on the Saturday, some would come on the Sunday. I remember my dad coming down with a Carload from the east Mids. So on the Sunday you’d have a different team than on the Saturday. It was absolutely massive! And we were putting out tens and tens of thousands of leaflets and Barnbrook snuck in. He needed 5%, he got 5.4%. It was fantastic!

And that kind of papered over these cracks. And these cracks were that the council election wins were getting fewer and further between, but now we were winning on this big stage, so that papered over the cracks.

And this continued into the 2009 Euro election. The 2009 Euro elections were massive because obviously Andrew Brons was actually the first to be elected. He won his seat slightly earlier than Nick Griffin. And I was there at the count and the elation to be at an election count where a BNP candidate wins an actual seat at the European Parliament was brilliant!

And I remember being really cocky and I remember that Andrew Brons took the seat from a Labour politician and as he was leaving, I can’t remember his name now. I remember shouting to him:

“Hey, mate, don’t forget your P45 on the way out!”

And all of our guys were roaring with laughter, we were so happy. And then Nick Griffin got elected a few hours afterwards when his count. We had two MEPs and this was national news, we finally had people elected on a national scale.

And this again papered over the cracks a little. We were winning these PR elections with quite low votes, sometimes with in margins, but we weren’t winning the council seats anymore. And it seemed a long time since Golding was elected and we were doing well, like we were in previous years. In previous years, you know, we won by-elections in Heckmondwike, in [word unclear]. Heckmondwike is near Huddersfield. It’s in Kirklees. We won in Heckmondwike. We won in Blackburn. You know, we won by-elections in Halifax. But they were getting few and far between now. We just weren’t doing the business. The days of by-election wins in London boroughs were gone. We just weren’t doing that. But the European seats seemed great!

But then 2010 came.

Now, remember what I said earlier about football matches and turnout and people watching? Just remember that. Because this happened. We had won all these low turnout elections, or when there were quirks of the system, like there were in Burnley, and we’d won at these PR elections where we only needed 5.4% or 4.5% to get someone in.

But when it came to the general election and there was this huge boost in turnout, remember I said earlier, remember this bit! Because it came to bite the BNP on the arse. Not only did we perform disastrously at the general election with the higher turnout, but every single councillor that was up for re election on that day was hit by the higher turnout, and they all lost. Bar one!

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There was a guy in Pendle called Brian Parker. He was the only person in the whole country to keep his seat. Everyone else lost theirs. And it was catastrophic! You know, those twelve seats embarking in Dagenham, all gone in one single day. We went from being the official opposition to not having a single seat.

Chris Beverley in Leeds. Boy, I’ve never met a guy that’s worked harder than him. Chris Beverley would do his work for the party in the morning. By early afternoon, he was out leafleting or selling papers. By late afternoon, and just after tea, he was knocking on doors. There were leafleting teams when it was bad weather, because no one wanted to knock on doors when it was bad weather. That guy literally worked every day of the week to get elected in Morley South.

And what happened? What happened? He lost his seat in 2010 because of the increased turnout. And it was a complete collapse. The BNP, which had once at its height, had these know 57 councillors, GLA member and two MEPs. The councillors were just absolutely swept away! It took the steam out of the party, and the party went into a complete tailspin.

And by the time it came round to the European elections in 2014, there was only Nick Griffin and maybe one or two councillors left. Everything had gone. Richard Barnbrook had defected, Andrew Brons had defected. The party had split several times and it was over! It was all gone. It was all ruined!

And I can tell you this now. I’m not going to sit here on the stream and cry or moan or weep, but it was gut wrenching to see everything that had been built and all those hard won victories just washed away, like that! Just gone, finished! It was over. It was a disaster! It was a disaster!

And I look back at it now and it seemed like we were on the cusp of power. As a young man, with my whole life ahead of me, I genuinely thought, we as a party, are on the cusp of victory! And we, as a party, are going to win, in that air, you know, we’re going to win! We’re going to take. We are going to take the whole thing! And we didn’t. It was over.

And, you know what? Do you want me to be really honest with you? Well, there’s no point being anything other than honest. I look back on it now. We had 57 counsellors out of 19,000. We had a member on the GLA and we had two MEPs. It was massive!

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But in the grand scheme of things, it was probably nothing more than sort of a large beetle climbing up an elephant’s leg and giving it a nip. That’s all it was.

And that makes me sad, because I worked for a decade of my life. I gave my best. Best years of your life are probably between your 20th birthday and your 30th. [chuckling] Trust me! If I look back and if I could go back in time and sort of relive bits of my life, I’m pretty sure the bits I relive are all in those ten years. [chuckling] They were good times. And I gave those years to the BNP. And I did my best. I played my part.

I’m still here playing my part. I’m not going anywhere unless they kill me or put me in jail. And if they put me in jail, I’ll come out and I’ll still be here.

But the point is, I gave my best and so did many people. But everything was washed away with one bad election.

And that’s how fragile it is if you were to draw an analogies, and you guys know, I love my analogies, it’s a bit like a sandcastle on the beach. You know, I’ve got to say this. It was like that. It was like those kids that spend all day and they build this multi tiered sandcastle and they put the shells on and the seaweed, and they’ve got a moat, and one big wave comes and it’s gone! That was it. And all that’s left is just this little sort of hump where you can say:

“Was there a sandcastle there a while ago?”

And there was. Brian Parker was still there, and that was it. That was it. The party was just gone!

And I wonder, could that be replicated today? Well, the reality check is this. Not only was it really not that considerable, when you look at the 19,000 counsellors, 70 something MEPs, the 20 GLA members and all the bodies, we didn’t get people elected to, Parliament, the Welsh assembly, the Scottish Parliament, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera! And now there’s the police commissioners and the directly elected Mayors and all the other places you didn’t get anyone elected to.

The reality check is, first, were we actually as big as we thought we were?

And secondly, can we be replicated? Are things different now? And, yeah, they are.

Back in the BNP days, you know, people weren’t losing their job for saying they voted BNP.

Back in the BNP days, there wasn’t the stigma that there is now.

Back in the BNP days, demographics were better. You know, London was over 50% White British. Now it’s 36.8%. You know, the BNP took 5.4%. The only ethno-nationalist candidate, the candidate that stood you, the ethno-nationalist candidate, that did stand for the GLA, his Mayoral insert looked pretty much the same as Barnbrook, very similar to Barnbrook’s all the way back in 2008. But he got 0.8%. He got maybe a 6th of what Richard’s vote was. This tells you things have changed.

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We’re never getting in some of these places. We’re never winning in Barking and Dagenham. I doubt we’d ever win now in seats in Bradford where we’ve won before, places like Keighley. What’s the situation today in Burnley? You know, as I said, London, it’s gone!

So could that small series of victories actually ever be replicated? I don’t know. I don’t know! And for it to be replicated, what would we need? Because, you know, never before has there been this ethnic mix. Never before has there been this sort of drive to weed nationalists out of everywhere to send Prevent* round to their houses for talking about demographics. There’s never been this much pressure. And there’s never been this few White Britons to vote for us. Can it be replicated? I don’t know! But set to everything I’ve said tonight, I think there’s a lot to be taken in here and you get to decide.

[* About Prevent: Prevent is a national programme that aims to stop people from becoming terrorists or supporting terrorism. It works to ensure that people who are susceptible to radicalisation are offered appropriate interventions, and communities are protected against radicalising influences. Radicalisation can happen when a person develops extreme views or beliefs that support terrorist groups or activities. There are different types of terrorism, and Prevent deals with all of them. The most common types of terrorism in the UK are Extreme Right-Wing terrorism and Islamist terrorism. Source: UK Gov]

Now, finally, I’ve got one last small point before I do the questions and answers. Things are different in Europe. And people keep saying this, well, why are things different in Europe? There’s a few reasons, and I’m going to run over them shortly.

In a lot of European countries, there’s proportional representation. You have regional bodies. You know, the MPD in Germany elected to regional bodies. You know, the AfD in Germany elected to regional bodies. You know, some people say:

“There’s less political stability in Europe because all of the countries in Europe have, one time or another, lost a war or been occupied.”

Britain hasn’t. Britain hasn’t been occupied in that way. That way it’s government, it’s political system, it’s establishment has never lost it’s legitimacy in the same way that the French have, in the same way that the Italians have. The Germans have. These huge world events have an effect on the national consciousness. There’s not a revolutionary mentality in England, Scotland and Wales. We did have an English Civil War, and then we reversed that and begged our king back.

You know, in France, it was a revolution sort of every five or six years at one point, and they’ve still got that in them. Just look at the Yellow Vests. You know, it’s the same with Germany. Germany has always been a loose sort of Confederacy of provincial powers, if you like. You know, Prussia is a perfect example of that you know, the Prussians never truly saw themselves as German.

And that’s why across Germany, you will tend to find that certain regional bodies vote completely differently and are represented completely differently to others. You’ve also got the fact that half of Germany within living memory fell under Soviet rule. And East Germany votes completely differently to West Germany. We know these things.

There’s been different factors that have affected the national consciousness of those people, but Britain has never had that. We’re an island nation. We have been largely unaffected by these things.

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And as such, we are stuck in this pattern, isolated on a little island, stuck within, so that the liberal Democratic milieu that I’ve discussed earlier. So we do not have in our country electoral system conducive to change. We’ve got the two party system. You know, we have these safety valves. Other countries, they’re different. They’re different. And we could spend all night explaining this.

I’m not going to go into this in detail, but things are different in Europe for different reasons.

Anyway, that’s really all I have to say, and I hope you really enjoyed the stream. I’m going to do the questions and answers now. We’re going to fly through them because obviously we’re coming up to 2 hours. I didn’t realise I’d been speaking too long, but I hope you’ve enjoyed this. It’s been a bit of a lecture. I do like doing these streams and I hope you feel that you’ve got value for watching tonight.

Anyway, we’ve got some very generous Superchats, so I’m going to start over on Odysee now. Beer Hall Pooch gave 1488. Thank you so much! And said:

“Hail Mark. I put my money where my mouth is. Me and Pete Rushton says leading nationalists need to meet privately to figure out a new way forward. Ideas, strategy, tactics on the table. We are now messing around with outdated positions. We’re not saving all Whites. Please discuss important.”

Look, I would happily meet at one of these things and happily discuss things, but solutions have to be multifaceted. You know, from my point of view, I’ve always said community building has to come first. I kept saying we live in a world of minority wins! Why do you think Muslims win at elections? Muslims aren’t the majority, but if there’s 10% of Muslims in an area where there’s a 50% turnout and all of them turn out all of a sudden, that’s a 20% block vote. That’s enough to swing an election.

So all the candidates have to go to that Muslim and offer him something, and whoever offers him the most wins the election. White people don’t organise like that.

And the first thing we have to do as White people, if we’re going to win elections like the Muslims do, like other minority groups do, is we have to build a community. I’ve been saying since the outset, at Patriotic Alternative, that we need to build communities! We need to build. And part of those building communities is owning land, owning buildings, you know, moving together, living together. There’s so many things that can be said, and this isn’t the stream for it, but we need to organise our people! And then we can win elections. We can’t win elections with atomized, isolated, lost individuals who don’t act as a group.

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The reasons Muslims win elections is because they’re not isolated, they’re not lost, they’re not atomized, they still stick together! We are lost as a people! We have to find ourselves first, guys. If you put elections before community, you’re putting the cart before the horse. Community has to come before elections. The times when Whites have stuck together, say, like the miner strikes, what was that built on? It was built on community.

Eddie gave $20. Thank you so much, my friend. He said:

“Thanks for the stream, Mark.”

Well, thank you, my friend. Albion Forever made a statement. He said:

“Hi, Mark. Would it be suspicious for a party to get registered when the Electoral Commission are aware that they have been breaking the law?”

I know what this is in reference to. Look, it’s emerged that one of these recent parties to get elected, there was a Freedom of Information request. One of the parties that recently got registered, it’s been revealed by a Left-wing source that did a Freedom of Information request that the Electoral Commission was aware that that party was breaking rules, laws and had members that had shared terrorist documents but still allowed them to be registered. It is suspicious.

Albion Forever also said:

“Hi, Mark. Did, you know, that the Fairchild A10 Thunderbolt two has a single 30 millimetre gatling cannon and two general electric turbines? When it fires it’s gun and puts it’s engines to full, it will actually accelerate backwards. That’s how powerful it is.”

Thank you. British Gammon gave $25.

Thank you so much for your generosity. Great to see you again here tonight, my friend. He said:

“In the absence of a nationalist candidate, would it be better to encourage people to turn up and spoil their ballot rather than vote tactically or not vote at all? And would the establishment even care if thousands of people voted, ‘None of the above’?”

Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! British Gammon is on the money! Look, if there’s no one in your area, spoil your ballot. And that might sound childish, but it’s not. It still counts!

Imagine if tomorrow we lived in an area where there was 10,000 people and there was a 50% turnout. So that’s 5,000 people voting and 6,000 of the 5,000 people voting. And 60% of those people, you know, 3,000 people went and just wrote “none of the above”. Okay, nobody gets elected off that. But the media would have to report that happened. That is a statistic that gets recorded. That would be something that causes waves. And look, when that has been tried, the media does report it. People talk about it. You know, if 60%, 3,000 people on that 50% turnout of that 10,000 voters did do something like that, that would create waves. Never ever just stay at home.

Because if you stay at home, you’re basically saying:

“I don’t have a voice!”

Use your voice in any way you can. I have always voted when I’ve had the chance and I’ve always done something, even if it is just spoil my ballot.

Getting very hot here tonight [having a drink].

[1:45:01]

But yeah, British Gammon is 100% correct. And he’s knocked it out of the park! Do always do something, never do nothing, even if it’s something small. Antimatter gave $40.12. Thank you so much! And he said:

“Donation.”

Well thank you kindly, Stan one gave $14 and said:

“Donation again.”

Thank you kindly. Albion Forever said:

“Interestingly, in Ireland, which has a revolutionary oppressed mentality, we don’t see that translating into electoral changes, but instead into huge protests.”

Well, look, I’ll settle for huge protests at the moment! Would you not sell for huge protest? Huge protests would be a step forward forward! Albion Forever said:

“Do you agree that the Muslim vote swung the vote for George Galloway in Rochdale?”

Well, of course they did. One dollars from BaleBreach said:

“Stevenson said he would vote Galloway. So that’s me and him. Tollah and Arab Social Nationalists are sympathetic. Are we all nuts, mate?”

Look, vote for people who are against the establishment or people who are perceived to be against the establishment. You know, I’ve already said, I would vote for anybody who is against those establishment parties as long as they’re not pro-immigration. It’s as simple as that.

And if you can’t vote for anyone, spoil your ballot paper!

Oh, and by the way, the BitChute stream is working. There’s eight people watching us there. It’s a start. [chuckling] It’s a start.

So thank you, BitChute. That is nice to see.

Now we’re going to go over to the Entropy Superchats. We always do them in this order. VM gave $10. Thank you so much! And he said:

“With all the mixed results, I’d say it’s still important to stand candidates without breaking the bank. As election time is prime time to raise issues. It also applies pressure to establish parties to move the Overton Window our way, building accessible bridge to the nationalist future.”

That’s a good point. Look, I’m not saying we shouldn’t stand any candidates.

What I’m saying is we have to put community building first. We have to put community building first! And if we don’t put community building first, we’re in trouble. But if we move to the same areas, if we organised, if we bought property or land and we actually build community, we could stand in a limited number of seats, get people elected and govern our own affairs. There’s nothing to stop that. And if there are elections which are good for us, so say somebody say a Labour Party candidate got taken to court and sent to jail for being part of a grooming gang or something like that, where it’s expedient for us to use the electoral system. We should do. We shouldn’t cut off the electoral route altogether. I don’t believe that. But putting all our eggs in that basket, as you can tell, it’s difficult.

VM gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

“The great issue with tactical voting is that once Labour get in, the media will enforce the propaganda. The people of Great Britain voted against the racism of the Tories. Our electoral system is our voice box with a deliberate handicap.”

[1:48:03]

Thank you so much! Britannia’s reckoning gave $3. Thank you so much! Said:

“Capitalism has been a far more powerful weapon for Zionists than communism. The sooner nationalists start bashing capitalism as much as they bash communism, we make progress.”

I’ll bash capitalism and communism all day. Throughout my entire political life, I’ve always said they are two sides of a same anti-White coin! Britannia’s reckoning gave $3 thank you so much! And said:

“The key to electoral victory is a party Left-wing on economics and Right-wing on immigration and culture. The closest at the moment is the SDP.”

Well, I agree with you again, but the SDP get disastrous results! VM gave $3 thank you so much! Said:

“Our biggest drawback is no unanimous, agreed local plan. Split the Nationalist Party’s independent safety valve, RVP and spoil vote. We must ensure clear issues from focus community direction on each seat.”

We do! But the fact is, nationalism is riven by splits! It’s riven by splits, it’s riven by infighting, it’s riven by egos!

You know, when I started PA, the wholeidea of PA was anyone could come on board and do activism their way. I say to people:

“It’s up to you. It’s up to you. How do you want to do your PA work?”

If you want to do.

If you want to do electoral work, do electoral work, I’ll support you.

If you want to do community politics, I’ll support you.

If you want to do fitness and health, I’ll support you.

If you want to do gaming nights, art nights, music nights, you know, beer and burger nights at the barbecue, do what you want, as long as you’re doing something nationalist. Litter picks, great! Camping and hiking, great! I said that to people and what happened? People got their knickers in a twist because I wasn’t doing exactly what they wanted me to do and they stormed off and formed their own little tiny groups and then failed.

Why? Why do that? They did that because they had to be in charge, and they believed that everything had to be done their way! I think we need PA and I think we need an umbrella group. Where people can do things.

So if you want to do a book club, come to PA and do PA Book Club. You want to do fitness, you want to do going out and getting fit and training with young lads, join PA Fitness. You know, you want to put out leaflets. We back independent candidates, we do this! It’s got to be a multifaceted approach where everyone can play their part in the way they want to. These petty squabbles over minor differences and ego driven micro parties are terrible! They’ve dogged nationalism for decades, and the people running them should be ashamed of themselves.

[1:50:41]

You know, I’ve said to everyone:

“Come here, stand under this banner, do it the way you want to do it, and we can all stand together.”

People don’t want that they want to run their own little thing and it’s not working out. Britannia’s Reckoning gave $3. Thank you so much, said:

“Reform winning a London assembly seat is decent. Giving the demographics Reform may have a million or two, but the Lib Lab Con have a hundred times that!”

Thank you so much! Britannia’s Reckoning gave $3:

“The British Democrats say they received the most votes out of any nationalist party, but some of these parties need to merge. What’s your relationship like with them?”

I think they. When they say they won the worst votes, I think they got about 300 or something. And they discounted the English Democrats, who took 45,000 in Robin’s [Tilbrook] seat.

So, you know what’s that? They didn’t! They didn’t! And it amounts to a hill of beans. David Peterson gave $10. Thank you so much! He said:

“Tell us what you think about Griffin on Question Time. As someone who worked in a supportive capacity to him before such a humiliating experience, no offence, my friend, but you were head of publicity at time. Did he just ignore your advice? How did the pre-event prep play out?”

I’ll answer this question, although it’s going to create drama, because he’s not going to like my answer and he will be upset.

But the fact is, Nick Griffin’s Question Time performance was probably the worst, single worst thing to happen to the BNP. It was a turning point in the BNP’s history! It was basically the only time that the nationalist has ever been allowed on Question Time. And it was the greatest fumbling of the ball that I’ve ever seen!

And it was largely down to the fact that over time, Nick Griffin had become too complacent in his debating skills, in his ability to put himself over. He was too used to speaking to captive audiences, or to small time radio hosts and on smaller shows. It was basically like a boxer who had gone round and knocked everyone out in local gyms, in nightclubs, in county fairs, and then was given a shot at the title.

And although he thought he was great and thought he didn’t have to do much more, he had to do a lot more.

[1:53:04]

And I remember clearly in the time running up to Nick Griffin going on Question Time, people urged a number of things. There was people who urged that he prepared, that we got him into better shape, both physically and mentally. I suggested that he started going to the gym more. He tidied himself up a little bit. He didn’t like that suggestion. He won’t like me talking about that. But I said:

“Look, you’re in the European Parliament. You got the access to probably the best gym in the whole of Europe. You should use it. You need to tidy yourself up, you need to go out there looking smarter than you’ve ever looked.”

He didn’t like that. He said:

“Didn’t have time for that.”

And I said to him, you know, personally, like I was his friend, I didn’t say this out of nastiness. I said:

“Look you need to have some mock runs at this. You know, you need to get 10, 12 people in a room with you and people to talk to you and throw your questions and go through everything so you’re ready.”

And other people were like:

“No, no, no! He’s the boss. He’s the boss! He doesn’t need that. He’s the best!”

And he listened to them. There were other people. I remember a guy called Lee Barnes, who was his legal adviser at the time. He told him not to go on to call in sick, sending Andrew Brons as a replacement at the last minute, because they’d have to put Brons on the TV. And they wouldn’t have the same dirt on Brons they had on Gryphon. I thought that was a bad idea.

And Gryphon basically went in there green. He went in there green. He went in there without the correct training, without looking as smart as he could, without being the man that he needed to be.

And I’ll draw, not an analogy, I’ll just put forward an example of somebody who did this. Apparently, when Tony Blair first went on Question time, before he became Prime Minister, the Labour Party the weekend before, took him to a hotel and they basically stayed in a hotel and they took him into a conference room and for the entire weekend, they broke him down, they abused him, they threw questions at him. They absolutely mauled him for a weekend! And when he came out, he could answer everything, every smear, every piece of crap thrown at him. He knew what to say if the Tories on there threw something at him, he was ready.

And when he went on Question Time, he knocked it out the park! And the rumours are that before he went on Question Time, he was so nervous because they’d been grilling him all weekend that he was actually sick in the green room in a bin before he went out there! And I’ll say this, I’m not saying you should go out for your big moment as a nervous wreck, because that’s not great! But a few nerves, a few butterflies in your tummy are better than overconfidence.

[1:55:58]

And I believe that Nick Griffin was massively overconfident. He refused to prepare, he refused to improve himself physically or mentally before it. And he was listening to people who were blowing smoke up his arse, who were telling you he was the best of the best of the best of the best! And that no one could get the better of him, and that he knew his trade better than everyone, no one could do better.

And he went out there and he choked and it was a disaster! And he will now say in response this:

“It wasn’t. It was the best thing ever! The BNP were on 20% of the national vote after it, because it was so great!”

That’s not true. It’s nonsense! It shattered the BNP. And I’ll explain why it shattered the BNP at the time that happened.

At the time that happened, it was, how can I say this? Basically, there is one group of people. Towards the end of the 1970s and beginning of the 1980s, the traditional class divide of working class and middle class began to break down. And that happened and accelerated with the end of the miner’s strike, the destruction of the union. And we ended up moving to a country which has what is called “Middle England”. Middle England are the broad middle class. They’re not the upper class, they’re not the super rich. They’re people who own their own homes, have a stake in society. They want their kids to do better than they did. They usually work in good jobs or run their own businesses, and they’ve got something to fight for!

And that Middle England vote were the people who voted Thatcher in, who then rejected the Tories and voted Blair in, then booted Labour out. They have been the people that have always swung general elections. When Middle England move, when, and I’m not saying middle class, I’m saying Middle England. I’m saying these broad middle block of owner occupiers. You know, the White van man. The guy runs his own business. The guy’s got a bit of a stake in society. When they vote, when they vote, they’re the ones that swing elections. And that is a fact.

And those people have never been involved in nationalism, or have been involved in nationalism hesitantly. But the BNP got those people involved. They started to make inroads, they started to attract people that were friends with my parents. People who first were disgusted when they found out that I joined the BNP, were finally saying:

“Well, actually, Mark’s got a point, Carol, Morris, I think your lad might be right. I’ve just dropped around with a little donation. Please put it in the coffers. I’m definitely voting for you, Carol, if you stand in this area again.”

Those people were coming on board. They came on board and they opened the BNP up to a wider audience. And that’s when the BNP was rising. That was when it was in its ascendancy. And that’s what tipped the BNP over the edge, especially in the Euro elections, on these big regional lists, because Middle England were coming on board. We weren’t just the party of the estates anymore.

[1:59:26]

And Chris Bev really saw that in Morley South. He was a guy who became the King of the new build estate, where there’s the self employed window cleaner, the guy who runs his own electrician’s business, the local plumber. They owned their own new build houses and they were voting for Chris. This was a big swing. This changed everything.

And I’ll tell you this now, those people swing general elections, and they were coming on board with the BNP. And that Question Time was the thing that scared them off. They were tentatively dipping their toe in our pond and saying:

“We like this. We want a bit of this.”

And I’ll tell you, this is just anecdotal, but I remember my dad saying to me that there was a guy that lived on his street that always used to, when he went past, because my dad used to be into biking and would always go cycling on Sunday morning, and he’d always stop by and they’d always give him a wave. And if he was walking down the street, he’d always, you know, talk to him:

“Oh, Morris, have you got the latest Voice of Freedom for me? How’s it going?”

And he walked past him. After that Question Time, my dad was like:

“Hi, mate, how you doing?”

And the guy just said:

“It wasn’t good, was it, Morris?”

And that was it.

That was it! The guy never took a Voice of Freedom again. He didn’t really want to know. That was it. And these people were turned off by that. And unfortunately, it was a body blow! The party didn’t collapse overnight. The sort of support, the traditional nationalist support, remained intact. But that Middle England vote that were coming on board, it scared them off.

And that was just before, obviously, the 2010 general election. And the 2010 general election, that Question Time appearance and the problems in the party at the time, the personal issues, the fractures, the issues over where large sums of money had disappeared from and the fact the party were in debt, all of that sort of came together and that was it. Post, 2010, it was over!

So I hope that was a good explanation.

David Peterson gave $5. Thank you so much! He said:

“I know we spoke before about this, but you’re on a good one tonight. How do you feel about Young Nazi and Proud? Also, do you think the stigma was different back then, hence Young Nazi and Proud?”

Stigma was totally different. Look, you couldn’t make a documentary like Young Nazi and Proud today.

So when I’ve been on Young Nazi and Proud, I’m not saying it was a good thing, because it wasn’t. And it dogs me to this day. And, look, I feel embarrassed about that. For me, it’s like water of a duck’s back. So I laugh it off now. I treat it like it’s all fun and games. And I get enough people. I’ve enough people over the years come up to me in bars, pubs, clubs in the street, ask to hug me, ask for a selfie. I’ve had girls come up to me and give me a kiss over it. It’s been great in, some respects.

It’s also been bad and it’s something that I’ve had to laugh off uncomfortably at times.

[2:02:16]

So there’s been good and bad. But that documentary of a young lad who’s a bit of an edgy Nazi, was played some for laughs, some seriously, some tragedy. Some of it made me look like a bit of a fool! Some of it made me look like, very dedicated. Some of it made me look a bit weird, some of it probably made me look a bit brave, some of it I looked quite multifaceted. And yes, some of it was embarrassing.

But I’ll tell you this, that couldn’t be made today. You couldn’t call a lad Young Nazi and Proud on a documentary and play that like it was played. The guy would be getting his door kicked in! It’s a completely different situation now. The term “Nazi” that carries different connotations. You know, back when they did Young Nazi and Proud you could go to music gigs where there were certain fruity, [chuckling] you know, flags from a foreign regime that existed in the 1930s. People would sell CDs. All that’s been cracked down on. Things are different now. Things are very different!

But yeah, it has affected my life.

But I don’t think anyone could do a documentary like that now and play it the way it was the person who had that documentary made about them today wouldn’t be called a young radical, you know, political thinker who was played as maybe odd, a bit insecure at times, which obviously I was in my early twenties and I said some stuff that I’m not proud of but the fact is if you made that documentary today, it wouldn’t be Young Nazi and Proud. They would literally be saying:

“That young lad was a terrorist!”

That’s where the goalposts have moved

VM gave $3. Thank you so much! Said:

“With all the thoughts I made aside, this is exactly why the PA model works. It’s a dynamic vehicle that endures the ebbs and flows of elections on a community level. Great and informative stream. Thank you so much!”

David. Peace. And gave another $5. Thank you very much. Said:

“One’s in the chat to buy a house in the ethno-nationalist cul de sacs. Two for no. Everyone comes to the ethno-nationalist cul de sac!”

Look, people know where I live. I actually said to people:

“Come and live on the estate I live, there was houses up for sale.”

I even offered people small loans to help them buy houses in this area. People didn’t want it. People didn’t want it. That’s the problem. Nationalists don’t want to move to the same area. And every nationalist I’ve asked to come to this area and live near me have always said no, no, I won’t because my family live here and I’m not moving away from them.”

[2:04:43]

And then other people said:

“Well, I want to go and live here because it’s my dream to go and live this other side of the country.”

Or:

“I don’t want to live in this kind of area. I want to go and buy a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere.”

That’s their prerogative. But getting nationalists to agree on something like an ethno cul de sac is virtually impossible! But I would love all of you guys to come and live on my street. Mainly because I’ve just perfected cooking chips in a variety of different animal fats. I’ve been trying with lard, and I really need friends in this area to come. Come to my house, eat my homemade burgers and eat my homemade, traditionally cooked hand cut chips! Because I need feedback, guys. I need feedback! Come and live on my estate and we’ll be barbecuing every weekend.

We’ve got two Superchats here from hedgehog 82. Gave $2 both times. Thank you so much! Said:

“People haven’t even got the brain cells to ask themselves why. Why does the government borrow money with interest when they can print interest free money? Like why the government is in two trillion’s worth of debt?”

Yeah, good point. So Much Need, another $2, and said:

“People are unaware most of the tax they pay is just paying down the interest on government borrowed money. A certain German man removed the central bankers and Germany became the most prosperous nation in Europe.”

Hedgehog, you may be spiky, but you’re not wrong. David Peterson gave $5. Thank you so much! He said:

“Are you still friends with the journalists from Young Nazi and Proud?”

This is really interesting, actually. No, I’m not. [chuckling] But he did contact me when I left the BNP and said:

“Would you like to do a follow up documentary?”

And basically what he wanted me to do is say that I was repudiating my past. And I was like, I would happily talk about where my life has gone wrong or where I think my life could have gone better or how could I have made better choices. But I’m never repudiating nationalism and I’m never standing up there and saying:

“That the things I said that were ideologically were all wrong!”

You know, people might say:

“Oh, well, what did you say that time in your car when you were depressed because your girlfriend was late?”

Whatever. You know, young lads say daft things, but I’m not going back on my political points. I’m never going back on those.

And he didn’t want that. He didn’t want Young Nazi and Proud Part II where I was sort of middle aged, you know., Still, still Nazi, and still Proud! [chuckling] he didn’t want that. He wanted a:

“This is how being sucked into a political organisation ruins a man’s life.”

And I don’t consider my life to be ruined. I don’t consider myself to be an unhappy person. I consider myself to be happier!

[2:07:16]

One of the reasons why I spend such a huge portion of my time on the phone to people, helping people and talking to people about their problems and trying to boost people’s morale and do these community outreach things is because I want to spread happiness. I want other nationalists to live a good life.

And I’ve had a chequered past and yeah, I’ve had some mad times and maybe some bad times, but I’m still here. And generally speaking, I think I’m quite an upbeat and positive guy. That’s why I like doing these streams. That’s why I love holding the camps, that’s why I love going to the events, that’s why I love doing all these things with you people. That’s why I love this community. That’s why when I started PA, I wanted a movement like this. That’s why when we have one of these camps or when we have conference, I shake everyone’s hand coming in, I give everyone a hug before they go home, because I genuinely do love all you guys and I treat you like family.

Any guy, any of you who know me and have said, look, can I come to your house?”

You guys have all been invited to my house, out for dinner with me. And I’ve treated you all like brothers. I’ve treated you all like extended family. You know, my wife’s cooked for you, you’ve been welcome in your house, I’ve broken bread with you. That’s what I believe. I genuinely believe that it is community first. And I live that every day of my life.

And I suppose that’s the final message for this stream. I don’t think there’s any more Superchats. But oh, there is. There’s one more from Beer Hall Pooch. Thanks so much:

“BNP should have put Brons in at the last minute as a feint against the system. Lee Barnes, think what you will, suggested this.”

I said Lee Barnes suggested this and the [word unclear] agreed because we held Brons in high regard. He’s Third Position and has that cosy uncle demeanour that would’ve sold with the public.”

A lot of people said that at the time. My dad always maintains that.

But look, the takeaway from this is whatever you want to take away from this stream tonight. But my takeaway from this is always the same. If we’re going to win at the ballot box, which is very hard, it’s almost impossible, like I’ve just laid out. And even if you do win, just wait until one of those high turnout elections rolls around like a tsunami and washes away your sandcastle.

But before we do any of that, we need a community.

And that’s what I’ve spent the last five years of my life trying to do. I’ve put myself on the line, I put my family on to build this community because I believe in it.

And I’m not counting elections out.

But what I am saying is if you put all your eggs in that basket like nationalist parties have in the past, you’re not going to win! Because the system is designed so you don’t win! And the only small groups that do win are the ones that built a community first. And that’s what we must do.

So I just want to say thank you to everyone who tuned in. Thank you to everyone who’s with us. It’s been a long stream. I genuinely thank everyone who’s been here with me for 2 hours and ten minutes. It’s been a good one. I’ve really enjoyed it. I hope you’ve enjoyed it. I hope you’ve all learnt something. I hope you’ve got something out of it you want. I thank everyone who donated so generously as well, from the bottom of my heart, you guys have been extremely generous tonight. I couldn’t be more grateful.

And finally, I just want to say, if you are out doing activism this weekend, if you are out doing community outreach, if you’re out leaflet in for an election, whatever, you’re doing, good, good! But bear in mind, the foundation for victory is out there and we can see it. We can see it because other people have achieved victory. And that foundation is a solid one. It’s community, it’s coming together and it’s doing something that we can build upon. Don’t put the cart before the horse!

But do stay safe. Do have a good weekend, whatever you’re up to.

I’ll be back on Sunday with Warren Balogh for our film review. We’re reviewing The Long Good Friday. It’s his choice. Be there Sunday 07:00 pm If you want a light hearted stream. I hope you’ve enjoyed tonight. I really have. I love you all. Thank you for being part of this amazing community. I hope to see you all later in the year, at one of our community events. Thank you and good night, everyone. Love you all. See you soon.

[2:11:05]

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So by now, everyone knows about OnlyFans. The site that is primarily focused on enabling young women to charge their male “fans” a subscription in return for lewd home-made pictures and videos.

The site launched in 2016 and by last year, 2022, it’s annual revenue had managed to top over $2.5 billion – pretty impressive! And to put that into context, OnlyFans had a revenue of just $6 million in 2018.

The growth in the site’s revenue has been a result of the rapid growth in both it’s paying male user base and the number of largely female content creators who are featured on the platform.

And by the end of 2021, the number of OnlyFans users had reached 188 million – by now I imagine that number is a lot greater. Along with a rapid growth in users, the total number of content creators featured on the site has also risen sharply, and is now estimated to be around, 20.1 million.

But how did OnlyFans explode in popularity? And how did the site become such a beacon for young women trying to make their fortune?

Well, the short answer is: With the help of the mainstream media!

Since OnlyFans launched the mainstream media has regularly run stories of how normal girls going nowhere in life quickly, were now all of a sudden making tens of thousands of dollars a month and were living like celebrities! All off the back of sharing their X-rated images and videos with their sizeable and very generous fanbases. These stories of course caused both the number of users and the number of creators on OnlyFans to grow rapidly. And as I stated earlier, between 2018 and, 20022 this led to the site’s revenue increasing over 400-fold!

Now, I originally covered OnlyFans all the way back in 2020 when I made a video about a girl called Holly Jo-Ballad. The video is linked in the description. I ended that video with the following statement:

“The media promote sites like OnlyFans as get rich quick schemes to millions of young girls who have never seen large sums of money and often see no other way to attain that kind of wealth. The media are leading our people down a degenerate path in an attempt to destroy them!”

And I absolutely stand by that comment!

But now, in 2023, with the annual revenue generated by OnlyFans being considerably larger and the numbers using the site also increasing dramatically, it seems as good a time as any to revisit this particular topic. Not least because I appeared on a show a while back where I ended up discussing this, and shortly afterwards someone sent me some very disturbing facts about the financial breakdown of what content creators were actually making per month.

But before we get into the facts and figures and how appearing on the site affects it’s largely young and female creator base, let’s briefly discuss how the mainstream media have built OnlyFans and promoted the site to naïve, financially strapped and often desperate young women.

Here are some headlines that have appeared in various different publications, and I quote:

“Teacher Turned OnlyFans Model Says She Made $1 Million in 3 Years.”

 

 

“We spoke to a woman earning more than $100,000 a year selling explicit content on OnlyFans-this is exactly how she makes her money.”

 

“OnlyFans stars make 270 times more than the average worker.”

 

“Lancashire woman makes £2m on OnlyFans by pouring beans on herself and pretending to be a giant.”

“I bought a 4-bed house at 24 by selling sexy snaps online.”

“I make £220k a year after quitting my nanny job.”

End quotes. And let’s just focus on the last headline. It was from a UK newspaper called The Sun, and is about a girl from Leeds who goes by the name of Rhiannon Blue. I will read a little more from that article, and I quote:

“Just three years ago, Rhiannon Blue was crying to her mum about her money woes-knowing she’d never be able to afford a house on her £14,000-a-year nanny salary. But she’s now the proud owner of a four-bed house in Leeds, which she bought at 24 with no help from her parents or partner.”

End quote. The narrative is clear: If you are a young woman who is struggling financially, then there is an easy and swift route to financial stability, security and the kind of lifestyle any girl would dream of. And that route to success is of course, OnlyFans!

Sounds pretty good, doesn’t it? No getting up early, no going to work on cold dark mornings, no getting told what to do by your boss, no more living with the parents or eating pot noddle dinners in order to save up for the rent – it’s just the good life!

Own your home by the age of 24! Go from earning £14,000 a year to making £220,000 a year! And for what? A few sexy snaps? And I am sure that message is very alluring to cash strapped and often depressed young women who feel trapped in uninspiring dead-end jobs.

But as you probably guessed, there’s a catch!

Whilst those at the top of the tree like Rhiannon Blue do indeed make life changing sums of money, the average content creator does not.

In fact, the average OnlyFans content creator makes $180 a month – gross! And when I say gross, I am not talking about the nude selfies taken by some chubby young woman looking to make her fortune. I mean that when you subtract the 20 per cent cut that OnlyFans takes, the average girl on the site is taking home around $150 a month.

But wait a moment! I said “average”. And the problem with averages, is that they can be easily skewed by very high or very low outlying figures. And in the case of OnlyFans, this average is skewed by the very high figures earned by the top content creators, some of whom are making millions of dollars per month. But what does that mean for the average girl on the site, well, this Tweet sums up how grim the situation really is.

On January 31st of last year an OnlyFans content creator going by the name Insane Cat took to Twitter and wrote the following, and I quote:

“I’m top 37% this month on OnlyFans. I made about $100. That means 63% of creators made less than $100 this month. Do whatever you want with this information.”

 

End quote. In reality, around two thirds of the girls who are enticed onto OnlyFans by the media’s stories of riches beyond their wildest dreams are posting intimate photos and videos of themselves into the public domain for just $100 a month, or less.

This Tweet was then replied to by a user called TiredAnonDomme who wrote the following, and I quote:

“Adding on to this to remove the veil from OnlyFans earnings. I’m top 15% this month and made $550.”

End quote. This means that more than 85% of OnlyFans content creators make less than $550 a month – not even what they would earn for a poorly paid part time job.

Now, I don’t have all the facts and figures, but what is clear is that the wealth distribution on OnlyFans is heavily concentrated amongst the very highest earners.

Only 16,000 of the sites 2.1 million content creators make over $50,000 a year. And to put that into perspective, that’s the top 0.76 per cent. So to make a liveable income from the site, it’s likely that a creator has to be comfortably within the top 2 per cent of earners.

And where does that leave these average girls, the unfortunate ones who aren’t taking the cream that is enjoyed by the few at the top?

Well, it certainly doesn’t leave them buying their own house at the age of 24. It most likely leaves them with a tiny amount of money which is far outweighed by the social stigma and baggage of having their nude photos floating around the internet for the rest of their lives.

But what type of girls are attracted to OnlyFans?

And here’s the other interesting thing: The girls that the media write about and use as the poster girls for their tales of OnlyFans riches are usually very beautiful, and have indeed enjoyed a good degree of success.

These girls are striking to look at, they are in great physical shape, they are dressed immaculately, they know how to do their hair and make-up, and they can be usually seen on social media showing off numerous pictures of themselves eating at expensive restaurants and taking dream holidays abroad.

But what of the “average” girl, not the ones making tens of thousands a month, but the two thirds, the ones making less than $100 a month? Well, they are often a different creature altogether. And you can almost start playing OnlyFans bingo when you see one of these girls, who often take to Twitter and Instagram in a desperate bid to attract paid viewers.

So let’s take a look at social media, draw up our bingo cards, and see what comes up regularly:

Discussion of Daddy Issues

Large, usually poorly drawn and highly visible tattoos

Clearly noticeable self-harm scars

Large numbers of piercings, often in intimate places

And to top it all off, the average girl’s social media photos aren’t taken by the side of an infinity pool in Dubai, or in a top London restaurant, or in a lavish city centre apartment, the type usually frequented by Premier League footballers. Oh no! The average OnlyFans girl takes her pictures on a dirty bed in a badly lit box-room.

And at this point any humour one might have found in all of this evaporates rather quickly. And it all starts to become pretty heart-breaking. Young women, often from broken homes who clearly have serious personality disorders, whoring themselves out online for a monthly fee that wouldn’t even come close to paying for three healthy meals a day!

Now it would be easy to attack these girls or to demean them, and even easier to write them off as just a waste of space – inherently flawed individuals who have no moral compass and only have themselves to blame!

But I see things slightly differently. The mainstream media is a powerful entity, one that influences and twists the minds of millions of people. And in this case, the mainstream media has targeted these broken and easily influenced young women with tales of fame and riches beyond their wildest dreams! Only to entice them into becoming nothing more than cheap whores, who in their race to stand out in a crowded and oversaturated market place are forced to carry out ever more depraved acts in a desperate bid to scrape together a living.

Whilst the top level of content creators may post a few topless photos on a yacht Moored off the coast of Monaco, what those fighting to stand out from the pack post is a lot less – how can I say it – “tasteful”!

And when this grim reality is made clear, when the veil is lifted, you really start to see what the media don’t want you to see, you start to see what OnlyFans really is.

OnlyFans is a moral-less place, an online hell where people’s daughters and sisters carry out depraved acts for what works out in real terms as a wage that an in sweat shop worker would look down upon. But the real evil here is not just OnlyFans, the real evil is what lies behind the promotion and growth of this site; the mainstream media!

The mainstream media have painted this moral-less and vile website as a life line, as a place where desperate, lost and often broken young women can earn enough money to buy themselves a ticket out of their misery and poverty. But Onlyfans is anything but that, and the media know it!

OnlyFans, for the vast majority of its content creators, is anything but a golden ticket to freedom. In fact for the average girl, being an OnlyFans content creator will only bring more misery, more hurt and leave them worse off – mentally, financially and socially. For a measly hundred dollars a month – a sum that will be gone in the blink of an eye – those lewd pictures are around forever, and may well act as a barrier to real employment, hamper the ability to find a worthwhile partner and in a very real sense, may well become a further blockade to genuine peace and happiness.

The media aren’t promoting OnlyFans because it will help depressed and poverty-stricken young women to raise themselves up. The media promote OnlyFans because (((those who own the media))) hate us!

And fundamentally, those in the media get a sick and twisted kick out of young women prostituting themselves for pennies!

My take on this is clear: Don’t scorn these lost girls who end up on OnlyFans, save your scorn for those in the media who have led these young women to their ruin with promises of wealth that will never materialise.

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“In the wake of her death the Queen was attacked as a ‘coloniser’ by many ‘people of colour’ on social media. This is rather ironic, as when you look at her legacy, the colonisation she presided over was not the aggressive expansion of the British empire, but instead she oversaw the colonisation of Britain by an ever-growing migrant community.”

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Britain’s Racial Divide

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In the wake of her death the Queen was attacked as a ‘coloniser’ by many ‘people of colour’ on social media. This is rather ironic, as when you look at her legacy, the colonisation she presided over was not the aggressive expansion of the British empire, but instead she oversaw the colonisation of Britain by an ever-growing migrant community.

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Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral took place earlier this week on Monday. And I have to say the funeral effectively Showcased two things that Britain is known for. The first was a spectacular display of perfectly executed ceremony, steeped in centuries of tradition and culture.

And the second was queuing! Billions tuned in to see Britain’s longest serving monarch be laid to rest, making it the most viewed live broadcast in history. And here in Britain, over a quarter of a million people queued to see the Queen lying in state, before her funeral. At it’s peak, the queue was over 10 miles long and queuing times were up to 24 hours.

But here’s the interesting thing. Taking one look at those standing in that mammoth queue, or indeed taking a look at those who lined the route on the day of her funeral, they were overwhelmingly White.

And I mean overwhelmingly! From the footage I saw, it looked as if the crowds were 95% plus White, which really shouldn’t be a thing of note in a European nation.

But when you factor in that the queues were in London, a city where White Britons make up around 43% of the population, the ethnic makeup of these crowds was very interesting.

Where were all the migrants? Where was the diversity? It was a queue that at any other time, certain quarters of the media would have described as “pale and stale”!

Well, let’s be fair, there were some people from other ethnic groups in the queue.

There was Adio Adechein. He joined the queue for a short time before being removed by police after he exposed himself, and sexually assaulted two women.

Muhammad Khan was another man of migrant descent who queued dutifully to see the Queen lying in state. And he was pictured in the news as he charged at the Queen’s coffin, attempting to grab it. But instead, he was wrestled to the ground and arrested.

And looking at all of this, and looking at those who were mourning Britain’s longest serving monarch, I think the Queen’s death and her funeral was in some way like Brexit. It exposed a massive divide in British society. A divide along racial and political lines.

It seems as though those who were moved by the Queen’s passing, those who wanted to celebrate her life, and those who wish to pay their respects, were overwhelmingly White Britons.

And if I was to hazard a guess, I would say those White Britons were socially conservative, valued Britain’s culture and heritage, and have a strong yearning for a Britain lost to time. A better Britain! A place very different from today’s metropolitan, multicultural, and overcrowded, global nation.

And I am sure if you spoke to most of those people privately, they would agree with the vast majority of nationalist talking points. They would be highly skeptical of where Britain is headed, and would most likely be concerned over Britain’s current demographic and political trajectory.

Yet, strangely, those people queuing to see the Queen lying in state, and those people lining the route of her funeral procession are the very same people that the Queen was happy to see replaced. And this is the unfortunate, and sad truth! Queen Elizabeth II always went out of her way to not only welcome migrants coming to Britain, but she also told white Britons to accept and embrace multiculturalism. In essence, she wanted White people to either silently accept their own replacement or, better still, to cheer it on!

The Queen made a point of showing that she viewed all her subjects as equal, regardless of their background. But the clear reality is her love for migrants was not reciprocated. And her subjects did not love her equally. And as her body lay waiting to be carried to her final resting place, and as queues of overwhelmingly White Britons waited patiently to pay their respects, elsewhere in the country, violence was erupting between two migrant communities.

The footage of Hindus and Muslims clashing in Leicester has now been shared all over social media. However, you would be forgiven for missing this news if you didn’t look carefully, as the crafty manipulators in the mainstream media conveniently chose to bury this story under a never-ending stream of news articles about Elizabeth II’s funeral.

But as Britain’s longest serving monarch, laid in state, the results of the mass immigration and multiculturalism that she had endorsed were plain to see. Two groups of migrants who had not embraced British culture, or the British way of life, were drawing up battle lines on the streets of one of Britain’s largest cities. And the violence looked set to spread elsewhere.

What’s more, these were not recent arrivals who were fresh off the boats. Instead, they were second, third, or even fourth, generation migrants whose parents had imported their culture to this island, rejecting any form of integration, and instead creating a mini version of where they had come from, here on British soil.

But with the culture, language, and religion, that they had imported came age old rivalries with other ethnic groups, who had also come to British shores. And these rivalries would now explode on British soil.

And as White Britons queued patiently through the night to say goodbye to their monarch, the migrants she had welcomed covered their faces and engaged in a tense stand-off. The contrast could not have been greater.

But will any lessons be learnt from all of this? Absolutely not! I am 100% sure that the new monarch, King Charles III, will in fact double down on this praise for multiculturalism, and be even more aggressive in his support for White replacement than the Queen ever was. Rather than looking out on their truly loyal subjects, and seeking to protect those who love them, the Royal family will no doubt continue to spit in the faces of White Britons, and cheer on their replacement!

But as a final thought, as I watched the magnificent ceremony that took place for Elizabeth II’s funeral, I saw tradition, culture, and heritage, that was hundreds, if not thousands of years old. And it was a magnificent spectacle! And I have to admit that I was moved by it. The whole event stirred something deep within me. But the important thing to remember is that the culture, heritage, and traditions, that were on show that day were created and then refined by White Britons.

And just as importantly, it was white Britons who laid down their lives to defend that culture. And maybe that’s why it was White Britons who lined the route, who queued for up to 24 hours to see the Queen lying in state. Maybe this grand ceremony awoke something deep within many White Britons.

But the sad reality is, if the Royals get their way, there will be fewer and fewer of those White Britons. And those that do remain will be ever more outnumbered by migrants. The reality of the Royals misguided support for White genocide is that when White Britons disappear, so will British culture and British traditions. And that, whether the Royals, like it or not, spells the end for their dynasty and paves the way for the eventual abolition of the Monarchy.

It’s rather ironic that in the wake of her death, the Queen was attacked as a colonizer by many people of colour on social media. As when you look at her legacy, the colonization she presided over was not the aggressive expansion of the British Empire, but instead she oversaw the colonization of Britain by an ever-growing migrant community.

Ultimately, for all their power and wealth, maybe those around the throne aren’t that intelligent? They may believe they are being progressive, and forward thinking, but their support for White replacement is short-sighted.

And in a very real way, these Royals can be likened to turkeys wishing for Christmas, as I have a hunch that the more diverse that Britain becomes, the less Britain will desire a monarchy.

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@saltyforeskin
13 hours ago
Literally send them home to the 3rd world or its over and we have to do it the hard way and we will by any means necessary to rid ourselves of colonisers and those who promoted and made it happen from the halls of power
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@vettekid407
13 hours ago
they have to go back
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@eddiesdreaming
6 hours ago
that will only happen if europe starts to do the same , if they are able the uk will follow but i cant see the uk self starting
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@saltyforeskin
5 hours ago
Italy will do it first, there will be a concerted push from Britains rulers to prevent it happening in the UK. Germany will begin deportations before the UK. It has to get worse and its going to only then will the necessary reaction by our dormant docile kin emerge with hunger and danger.
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@Peak_Aussieman
13 hours ago
As an Australian nationalist, I cannot in good faith blame the lefts iconoclastic hatred of the Monarchy. I mean, what has this decrepit washed up fossil of a family ever actually done for us?
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@John_Altdorf
12 hours ago
It’s more about symbolism. You could ask the question, how have they hurt you? To be honest I see comments like this from nationalists and wonder why they bother being nationalists.
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@IAmFree
10 hours ago
Cattle follow the rancher right into the truck to the butcher. After all, what has the rancher done to harm them? You seem to be under the same misconception.
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@felixfedre
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@IamFree
You are following the left rancher, “right into the truck”, you have to be cleverer about your politics.
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@Ecchiception
7 hours ago
you are sheeple following a left rancher follower being followed into a truck, politics was always a farce.
freedom is all that matters.
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@saltyforeskin
5 hours ago
I wonder how much symbolism Andy saw on Epstein Island? Mixed race get your jabs you plebs.. symbolism.? . The symbolism of a cold pensioner in a council flat dying alone as the royals live in splendour lecturing us about climate change. And that’s your nationalism?
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@felixfedre
10 hours ago
If all they ever did was piss off the left, it would make their existence more than worthwhile. I love to wave my little flag in lefties faces.
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@runtsmeadow
9 hours ago
The left don’t even hate in good faith. They are simply destructive and evil.
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@Randomize
12 hours ago
monarchy is irrelevant and cringe
just like the multiculti diverse empire it represents
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@felixfedre
10 hours ago
The “woke” left would love your comment.
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@DOLO
11 hours ago
I believe the Empire literally had to create current day Pakistan because of the Hindus and Muslims, just to separate them because of violence.
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@BerenOfDorthonion
4 hours ago
And yet, in present day Britain there are literal race riots going on in the British Isles between those two demographics. Just shows you.
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@EarthlingCarl1
10 hours ago
I’m truly shocked to discover the reptillian elitist sided with our enemies over the native British people.
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@eddiesdreaming
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give me elizebeth the 1st any day
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@RoryHerbert
8 hours ago
Excellent video, Mark. You made some very important points.
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@franz.danzien
9 hours ago
I think Britain had no english king since 1066 … and it became infinitely worse when the bank of England took power a couple hundred years ago.
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@fox
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You’re right.
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@PureNomad
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So many normies I hang/work with even noticed how blatant the division between real English and our migrant hoards.
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@BerenOfDorthonion
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Everything said here couldn’t be truer. The British Monarchy is at an end, they just don’t know it yet. Pandering to racial diversity will only speed it along, not slow it.
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@eddiesdreaming
5 hours ago
we can only look to the past for inspiration.
mosley tyndall bowden powell chamberlain and many others
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@Peak_Aussieman
13 hours ago
It’s safe to say now that in Australia the British Civilizational Mission is well and truly dead.
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@BerenOfDorthonion
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People like yourself are still there, it is never over while we still live.
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@AwhiteLife
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I think many of those fools queuing only done so because of her supposed age, just as many who lived in the same street as old Gladys or old Jack would have done. If you think it was because of stirrings of patriotism /nationalism you are very wrong. Those very people will be queuing for their 4/5/6th jab this week and screaming for more immigrants. There is nothing to feel positive about the majority of them, they would cheer to have you locked up for not wearing a mask or other such nonsense.
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@Strawberry_Lynn
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I concur with the idea of throwing back terms such as “pale and stale” back at the Establishment that use those terms against us
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@Pure
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What is the monarchic breakfast on average. And how long can you have monarchic breakfast. Is example 12 minutes monarchic breakfast time too long ?
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Hello again there folks. Daily Telegraph recently revealed that in the preceding year the Conservative government had allowed just short of one million foreign national migrants to settle in the UK. That figure is four times as high as the immigration raid under the Tony Blair Labour regime of the late 90s and, 2000s.

In the 2019 election, the Conservatives famously took massive amounts of votes from Labour. Especially in the north, because of Brexit, and implicitly mass immigration. I decided to script this video, because I didn’t want to become an angry rant to risk triggering the YouTube censors. Standard practice on this subject is to point out the negative aspects of immigration and oftentimes falling into the trap of blaming various other groups and peoples.

The real heart of the issue though is not the secondary causes and after effects. But the fact that our government and political system is chronically dysfunctional, and isn’t doing what it is supposed to do. And it hasn’t done so for many years. Some would say it has never actually enacted the will of the people at all.

When I saw that the Tory government had allowed a million foreign nationals to settle in Britain against the express wishes, as those who had given them votes and support, I then went on social media to see what the response would be of the various pundits and influencers who litter the centre-Right of politics in our country.

As I expected their response was pathetic! Their main concern is voicing concern without having anyone call them racists. There’s talk of housing issues, suppressing wages, losing support among the native working class, of schools, and hospitals, and a simple fact we’re running out of space. All of these issues will then in turn be debated, and dissected, and watered down. Excuses will be made blame, will be shifted. And then there’s always the old:

“We have to keep Labour out.”

Sloganeering. The Labour Party have never allowed a million for nationals to settle in our country in a single year. The Labour Party have not ruled Britain since the beginning of Barack Obama’s first term in office.

This isn’t to say that things would be better under Labour. They wouldn’t. But if we live under a liberal democracy. And the people are sovereign. And the people voted consistently for the Tories on the pledge that they would reduce immigration, then we can quite rightly ask:

“Why the will of the people has been so completely ignored, and why people continue to vote for them?”

I’ve never, ever, voted Tory! I’m not responsible for them shipping in what amounts to a city the size of Liverpool in a single year. This is really a question for Conservative voters to answer. Why is it that people continue to show support for a party which lies in their face and betrays the core principles of democracy?

The rank and file of Right-wing punditry in Britain are fond of using weak and false arguments to muddy the waters. They will say:

“The government are weak, or incompetent.”

But this is clearly not true! The imputation of such vast numbers of people in our country requires entire governmental departments and bureaucracies, managerial expertise, and study groups. Hundreds of thousands of people have to be processed every year! Year after year! This isn’t a blunder. It’s active policy!

And yet if the people are sovereign and their will must be enacted, then why does this huge infrastructure even exist? If politicians are there to represent the public will, then why are there Nudge Units, and Perception Management departments, to confuse and mislead us all by concocting narratives helpful to the establishment? The discourse around racism and xenophobia is in many ways squid ink to confuse and demoralize people.

The real conversation we need to be having is on “power”. If liberal democracy is grounded on the principle that the people are sovereign, and the will of the people is completely brushed aside, then by definition we are not living in a democracy. We’re living in something else. It isn’t like we’re talking about a minor issue. It’s not like we were promised five thousand NHS beds, and only got four thousand. They have literally done the exact opposite of what people voted for, by a factor of four!

The most common question a content creator sees under an essay, or video, goes something like this:

“Okay. So what do we do about it? Moaning online doesn’t help! Voting doesn’t work! So what do we do?”

And in truth nobody really has an answer to it. The people who vote Tory and are happy to be betrayed and lied to, legitimize the lies in the process, because the Tories, or whichever party, can claim to be representing the will of the people, even while they’re obviously in the act of doing the complete opposite of what the people actually voted for.

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So then the more despondent among us will advise disconnecting from the system, and giving it up as a lost cause. Which is the camp I’ve found myself in for the last few years. The problem here though is that the policies you oppose do not stop existing and being implemented, because you didn’t bother voting.

And then there’s the option of voting for a renegade party which may offer something of a bee sting, before being banned, bankrupted, or falling apart, through lack of funds and constant vilification by the media.

I was recently reading Greg Johnson’s review of Academic’s new book, The Populist Delusion. His book describes well, using elite theory, that an organized minority of one sort, or another, will always rule over the disorganized mass. This is exactly what we have today. The ruling class treat with absolute contempt what the popular will actually is. They betray their voters, lie to our faces, and not only fail to deliver on pledges, but do the complete opposite! And it seems there’s nothing we can do to change anything about it, or influence policy at all!

Given that we’ve now had decades and decades of evils being inflicted on the British people by the ruling class, it’s safe to say that they don’t care about it, because they have not changed course whatsoever! They aren’t responsive in any serious way. And will even go so far as to outlaw certain language and opinions on a [word unclear] to drastically increase their ability to censor people online.

The contempt is palpable and obvious! But isn’t this the core of the problem? What we have is a system which calls itself a “liberal democracy”, while it ignores the wishes of the public, and outlaws opinions it dislikes.

The question then becomes not one of secondary issues, issues which have arisen because the public aren’t sovereign, but why it is the public aren’t sovereign? Why does this system pretend to be something that it isn’t?

Greg Johnson refers to the need for a populist ideal in place of the populist delusion. The delusion is believing that the people are sovereign and represented by the elected representatives, rather than an organized minority.

What I find interesting about what Johnson says on the populist ideal is that the discourse has re-centred on the issue of sovereignty, to quote him. But once we are wise to Machiavelli’s trick, the question again becomes about how men and society should be. We return in short to the questions of classical political philosophy. The delusion persists, because people are in denial that they are not actually living in a democracy. The ideal acknowledges what Johnson describes as “Machiavelli’s tricks”, but grounds discourse in the fact of this being the problem. The focus is on sovereign power, not secondary issues. Either we live in a liberal democracy, or we don’t.

See: Morgoth’s Review – Notes On Machiavelli – Aug 14, 2020 — Transcript

The aim of the populist ideal in my view should be to tear the mask off of Machiavellians and charlatans who run things, and expose their power as being illegitimate, because they are betraying the values they pretend to represent.

The secondary issues. And they are now legion come about, because of the primary issue of corrupt power and institutions of the will of the people being ignored.

As an aside, it’s interesting how the issues created by ignoring the public will – such as demographics and identity – have been booby-trapped, laced with moral arsenic, so that morally tinged language can be used against those who are not happy. A villager in a rapidly changing area will be placed in a situation where they have to explain why they don’t want the newcomers. Which will inevitably lead them into their minefield.

Yet if liberal democracy lived up to its promises they wouldn’t have to, because if the politicians are there to serve the people then they should just get on with it and enacting that will, rather than lecturing people, or as in the famous case of Gordon Brown episode, calling them bigots!

I began by touching briefly on the problem of the person who votes for the Conservative Party. We can look again and consider just how deluded these people actually are. In the act of voting for the fake populist Boris Johnson they’re actually participating in the lie. They’re gluing the mask onto the face of the Machiavellian establishment, and reaffirming the legitimacy of its power. Where we find ourselves now is the worst position of all.

What we have is an oligarchy wearing the skin suit of a liberal democracy, pretending it’s power is legitimate. It’s a sort of awful limbo where people wander about confused as to what is happening, because they vote. So they think they have power, when they don’t, of course. Even power at the national level is being sneakily wafted up into supernational institutions.

Our political class are like salesmen who keep us talking at the door, while their mates slip out the back with the family treasure.

And so what I’d like to see, first and foremost, is a populism which forces them to either bend to the will of the people, which they can’t do, or reveal themselves as a tentacle of global oligarchy.

Britain is in the advanced stages of being terraformed into something new. Both our regional and national identities are being abolished, like the ancient Woodlands blocking the path of a new high-speed rail link. Nothing which dominates the national conversation was ever voted on. Not the immigration, not the speech codes, not the new sexual agendas, not the climate change accords, not the subversive and insidious power of international bodies and NGOs!

If we lived under an outright dictatorship which didn’t apologize for itself, and didn’t pretend to care about what the people actually wanted, it would be clear and maybe even cathartic that we knew where we stood. In actuality what we have is a Politburo with a public face, so you can see the bloke you voted for and therefore continue in your delusion.

Once again if the people are sovereign then why are these things happening which they didn’t vote for? Which they explicitly voted against, in actual fact! If they are not sovereign, then why do we pretend that they are? Like Schrödinger’s cat, our so-called “liberal democracy” is either alive, or dead, depending on its usefulness to those in power. Nothing can ever change, or move forward while we’re trapped in this obfuscation and thick fog of deception.

I’m not asking for anything extreme. I’m not engaging in hate. I just want a little clarity. After all it seems nothing threatens our liberal democracy more than our ideals of liberal democracy itself.

I’ll catch you later folks.

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Here Joyce discusses the US elections between Trump and Biden and how the outcome is just more of the same in either case as both are entwined within the jewish power structure, aka, the Deep State, aka ZOG.

— KATANA]

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Hello everyone. And welcome back to Talmud and Taboo. I am your host Andrew Joyce. And I think it’s as good a time as any to return to podcasting given the drama, the recriminations and shenanigans that have accompanied the recent putative election of Joe Biden to the presidency of the United States.

I have very mixed feelings about the events of the last few days, very mixed feelings, indeed!

I think I should begin by saying that I was never “MAGA”, on the Trump Train. I always had my reservations and doubts about Donald Trump.

Way back in 2015, I wrote an article titled “Jewish Intermarriage with Native Elites”, in which I attempted to take the marriage of Ivanka Trump to Jared Kushner, to highlight as a warning and to contextualize it and provide some historical background for the way in which it seem to be an almost conscious strategy of Jews to marry the children of their elites with the children of native European elites.

And I dug into the history of this. In Prussia in the 1800s, especially the Junker families. And the way in which certain salons were established in which the young men from the Junger families would be encouraged to socialize, especially with these jewish daughters. And in which these marriages would be more or less set up, or a context laid, in which the pairing up of these individuals would be more or less inevitable.

And I made the argument that these marriages provided a kind of concrete biological entwining of interests. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out that when your daughter, when your family, or your grandchildren, are for all intents and purposes Jewish, that basically you are going to have an additional concern, or certain perspective, on things like zionism, or the State of Israel, or the history of the Jewish people, that will lend you certainly more amenable to jewish arguments, and I believe Jewish influence.

So, the Kushner influence was something that concerned me very, very, early on in the drive for a Trump Presidency. And I must say that my feelings are no different when it comes to Joe Biden, who has no less than three children who have married Jews. Everyone has been talking about the certain statistical unlikelihood of Joe Biden‘s recent election results. And I would simply say, well here is another statistical improbability. The improbability that all three of one’s children would end up marrying Jews! I think that’s something worth thinking about again.

And if you haven’t read my essay “Jewish Intermarriage with Native Elites”, then I think you certainly should do so in the next few days. I think it will help contextualize some of the things that surely will unfold over the next four years.

So there is an ambivalence there, a certain ambivalence, a certain trepidation about Trump. And I think over the four years of Trumpism that we have thus far witnessed that there were concerns more or less confirmed. Certainly I don’t feel any radical need to revise any of my initial concerns. I felt right at the outset that was what we would see would be more or less a continuation of the non-negotiables of what you might call “The Deep State” or ZOG, or whatever label you wish to place on the fact that this system, as we know it, would more or less continue.

So we have seen the ongoing expansion of GloboHomo, for example. We’ve seen the fixation on GDP, as the axis upon which global happiness is supposed to turn. We’ve seen the relentless and flamboyant “Village People” promotion by Donald Trump of homosexuality in remote African States.

And we’ve had this bizarre spectacle, this bizarre sight of evangelical Christians in the Red States cheering on a President who is actively pushing sodomy in African backwaters. So it takes on a kind of surreal perspective whenever you look at it in the cold light of day.

So there’s been a continuance of these things, and certainly there’s been a continuance of the American-Israel symbiotic relationship.

This habit of unquestionably donating to Israeli military ambitions, and providing Israel with all of the diplomatic and institutional support that it so desperately seeks from the United States. This has all continued unchallenged, unabated, and unscathed.

So when the first turn in the votes, shall I say, in favor of Joe Biden occurred, a quote came to mind from the book “Anarchy and Christianity” by the French philosopher Jacques Ellul.

Ellul will be familiar to some of you, because he wrote a book called “The Technological Society”, which I think he floats his disgust, on at least one occasion, and which is certainly complementary, or certainly supplementary, to Ted Kaczynski’s* writings. It’s basically decrying the influence of technique, and technology on society. And I believe that Jacques Ellul is a philosopher worth paying some attention to.

[*Theodore John Kaczynski, also known as the Unabomber, is an American domestic terrorist, anarchist, and former mathematics professor. He was a mathematics prodigy, but he abandoned his academic career in 1969 to pursue a more primitive lifestyle. Source: Wikipedia]

Now in “Anarchy and Christianity” Ellul basically makes the argument for Christian anarchism. He claims that anarchism is something that can never be genuinely politically fulfilled. But he makes a case that Christianity itself is an anarchist doctrine. Now I don’t agree with the central premise of the book. And overall, actually, it’s not that interesting of a book. But there are some interesting quotes and arguments made within it. And one of those quotes which stuck in my mind and which was resurgent in that initial turn of the votes towards the election of Joe Biden, was the following, quote:

“All our political forms are exhausted and practically nonexistent. Our parliamentary and electoral system, and political parties, are just as futile as dictatorships are intolerable. Nothing is left! And this this nothing is increasingly aggressive, totalitarian, and omnipresent. This nothing!”

When I sat back and I started thinking about the transition which is surely to play out between Trump and Biden, I listened to all of the media uproar and the discussion of how America is so partisan now, and all of the differences between Biden and Trump, and how this was going to change, and that was going to change.

And certainly on some level there are going to be some superficial, and I suppose not so superficial changes taking place. There are certainly going to be a radical change in the mood of American government.

There’s no question that even though we can doubt the sincerity of Donald Trump‘s political beliefs. And certainly have our suspicions about some of the influences coming to bear on him, that Trump was a force of an amorphous, reactionary, conservatism, which picked it’s battles and was kind of symbolically Republican, conservative.

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There’s no real coherence to Trumpism. So when I read recent news articles talking about how Trumpism may, or may not, or could, or should survive the downfall of Trump, whether it might be a resurgence, for example, in the young politician Cotton, the young senator, I have my misgivings about that. I’m not sure that we would want Trumpism to survive.

I’m not sure that it can survive without Trump because it’s so dependent on his own personality. I think that once you subtract Trump from Trumpism, what are you left with?

You are left with a kind of vague neoconservative, bland GDP worshiping, kind of a glorification of capitalism. That’s me thinking off the top of my head.

But what is Trumpism? Where does it go, beyond memes and owning the Libs with statements that don’t leave anywhere? What is Trumpism other than consecutively, and unceasingly, giving serious consideration to doing something. I’m not sure that we can encapsulate Trumpism in such a way that it can survive the downfall of Trump.

So anyway, with all of these debates and discussions about what might happen next and how things might change and all of this, I was focused on what will stay the same. I was focused on “the nothing” that Ellul was alluding to, and discussing there.

This “nothing”, this kind of inert, but slowly moving progress towards decline! This gradual slip into an abyss! An abyss dominated by the non-negotiables of the system global Globohomo, zionism, and the worship of GDP, and the subservience of the common man to the system, and his depressing inability to overcome it, or overturn it, in anyway.

I think it’s foolish of liberals, and leftists, of a sincere ideological bent, to celebrate the victory of Joe Biden. Joe Biden ultimately is as meaningless, and as incoherent, and as amorphous, as Trumpism was.

Biden will be nothing more, and has been elected as nothing more, than a symbol. He’s a symbol of being not Trump. Just as Trump was elected as a symbol of not establishment.

Both of these symbols are surface level. Both of these symbols are ultimately meaningless, and result in the ongoing frustration of an electorate that cannot seem to achieve anything, no matter how many times it votes. No matter how many times it goes to the polling booth. No matter how many shit posts they put on social media. No matter how much outrage they can manage to stoke over very superficial things. And I suppose some not so superficial things. That we just end up repeating the same pattern over, and over, and over again.

So I’m not mourning the downfall of Trump and Trumpism. And I’m not terrified of the rise of Joe Biden. I think that the challenge for people like us, is more or less the same. It is to challenge the non-negotiables of the system. It is to challenge Globohomo. To challenge the ceaseless worship of GDP the axis upon which our happiness is supposed to turn, but really under which our happiness is ruthlessly crushed and oppressed.

And above all we must, of course, work hard to bring down this emphasis on support for Israel as a kind of prerequisite to any meaningful and just participation in our political systems.

So the point I’m trying to make, I suppose, is that your task hasn’t changed, nothing has changed! There may be some differences, if anything though, in the tactical realm.

I see with the downfall of Trump, the end of the kind of meme wars, humor-based activism that marked the period, perhaps, 2015. But really it was dying by 2018. The meme wars, this idea of owning the Libs. You’re not owning the Libs! And to be fair the Libs aren’t really owning us. We are all just participating in this endless wheel, this endless cycle, which spirals ever downwards.

And we push them, they push us, in all of these superficial ways, and nothing gets achieved, nothing is accomplished, and we just simply decline.

I think that broader perspectives on the nature of the system are what are required today. And I view it as a positive that a lot of the activism in the movement in terms of producing content at the minute is system based. It’s looking at some of the philosophical, first principles, of the issues that we are facing. And it’s giving serious discussion and serious critique to things like GDP worship. And as always, criticism of Jewish influence at the highest levels.

If I want you to take away any message from this podcast, it’s that we need to challenge “the nothing”. We need to challenge “the nothing” which is increasingly aggressive, totalitarian, and omnipresent. And the best way of doing that is by creating something. We will have to create institutions that will perhaps at first be powerless. But they will be there. And they will be something that is not “the nothing”.

And I think that now is the time for us to refine ourselves ideologically, and to present a vision to well-meaning, well-intentioned people that is quite a part from Trumpism and Bidenism, which ultimately on the grand scale, are both indistinguishable from the other.

Thank you for listening. Goodbye.

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[Orel, a Polish guy, and founder of the “Polstrat Project” gives his opinion on Patriotic Alternative, using the recent Rikki Doolan vs Laura Towler debate. He says that in the eyes of most normal people Doolan won because he managed to project the image that PA was a movement obsessed with race, ethnic cleansing, and that it has favourable views of a past party founded by an artist.

Orel’s main point is that there is no political (or military) solution to defeat the (((globalists))), and therefore sees PA activities in that area as being doomed.

Although there’s partial truth to what he is saying, the purpose of PA at this point is community building, the gathering of supporters and expanding influence to create a base that is committed to changing the direction of Britain in favour of the White British people, however that change is brought about.

He puts forward the notion that your average person prefers “comforting lies” to “unpleasant truths“, and although generally true, I don’t think that will hold as more and more thinking people realize that ignoring the unpleasant truths will lead to disaster and the racial death of their people.

Orel ends by saying that although he supports PA, as it is better than nothing, he advises us to research his own project to salvation, the Polstrat Project. He doesn’t go into what that is, other than referring us to other videos and documents. But from what I can gather, it’s about funding various projects to become economically independent and ultimately free of the present (((system))).

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Why a Political Solution is Impossible in our Current World System:
https://youtu.be/GgtXWyRKN6k

There are many independent political movements across the West, who are trying to create political parties and enter national politics.
My opinion is that those political initiatives are a way to nowhere, might be beneficial and helpful if they support various alternatives in same time but when they feed rebellious people with promises, hope, and at the end bringing disappointment focusing people attention at political solution as ultimate solution only, then they do not only waste our time but also keeping people distracted from alternative options which might be actually a realistic solutions to oppose our destruction, and with every new disappointment the will to make united stand for our future is degrading.
The reasons why I think political solution is not possible anymore, I explained in my video called “Why a Political Solution is Impossible in our Current World System”
But the main reasons why I think it has no right to work, is lack of time, because we have less than 15 years before demographic shift in our countries will make political solution completely not possible anymore.
Another reason is that democracy is fraud, it’s an illusion, because realistically it does not exist anymore.
And obviously same as there are “economic hitmans”, there are also “political hitmans”, and there is no way to say “no” to them while you operate in politics.
Link to interview with such “economic hitman” is here:
Interview with Economic Hitman:
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If you want to learn about realistic solution to save our future – study our material with the plan, which is linked below.

Whatever you’re planning for your local area, for your community, or even your country, it will not save the future of the west or your state, your nation, if you plan to leave the rest of the world behind.

Those who control our system today understand this, they designed it that way, they control our countries internationally, and even through liberating one to be up against many is a lose-lose situation which will not change the final outcome, nor allow your country to remain independent and survive.
The only way to save and secure our future is international cooperation and organization which our plan offers, to save our future.
We will not leave aware people from other nations behind, we must work together, it’s the only way to move forward in this struggle for our future.

This operation is the only realistic peaceful solution, there is no alternative.

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[00:12]

And hello again. I am making this video to inform all those who still delude themselves with political solution for our miserable situation today.

Patriotic Alternative is growing the biggest and most successful political movement in our Western world today. Which is truly standing up for sanity and reason in Britain. And I am sure of this just, because I read their 20 points long plan, which is basically a list of general political ideas. Which could really start healing the country of United Kingdom from within, if Patriotic Alternative would obtain true political power in their country one day. But unfortunately it’s not going to happen! And I will explain why.

So, as I see it, all the efforts will die in vain, with time! Two days ago, I watched an interview between Laura Towler from Patriotic Alternative and Rikki dulan from British Lives Matter. And unfortunately it did not end well for Patriotic Alternative. Just, because Laura Towler had to be honest and speak the truth. And unfortunately speaking to truth while operating in politics, is a red flag for any movement on the Right.

Just, because it’s branded as a hateful, racist, and never forget eight quadrillion, I’m sorry, I mean, six million! So how did it work out exactly in British reality? Patriotic Alternative believes that with worsening social and economic situation, especially with British people waking up to being affected negatively by mass migration of non-Europeans to United Kingdom, will start supporting political movements which oppose the mass migration and demographic replacement of British people with European heritage.

They believe that this myth of people “waking up” will allow them to gain voters, and in the future, power in the politics. This is what in general their strategy is all about. To reach us many people with their agenda, and benefit from the problems created by migrant population. And yes, in a healthy, normal, democracy, it could actually work, assuming you don’t have mainstream media who oppose you, and the rest of the big players in social, economic, and political arena of your country, who manipulate the voters by addressing their emotions, not the reason behind.

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And, because contrary opposition to the establishment in Britain is already appearing, and we could witness example of that in the debate between Laura and Rikki. You see the British people who are waking up to the problems with migrant population, sure they will vote for groups which want to stop this madness, which is happening in the country, but in the same time, they are not awakened enough to understand that Laura is not an evil Right wing radical, who wants to who wants another situation with six quadrillion, I mean, million, to repeat itself.

And in the debate, it was clearly visible. All the attacks to brand Patriotic Alternative even more as evil “N” [Nazi] guys and “N” supporters. So the awakened normal person who has problems with migration, has an obvious choice here.

Option A, it will support Patriotic Alternative who wants to defend Britain, but at the same time they are evil radicals, who segregate people based on their ethnic group, like the evil “N” guys from World War Two.

Option B. to support a movement who wants to defend Britain, oppose migration, and is peaceful without being edgy, hateful, and intolerant, somehow.

The choice from the perspective of a barely aware person is obvious. They want [05:00] what looks as a reasonable compromise to stop migration. And they don’t want “N” sympathizers in power.

This is how it was presented by Rikki in the debate. And this is why Rikki won the debate!

Because normal people awoken on problems with migration are not awakened enough to the true history, and they also do not understand how this world works. So, they will support Rikki, not Laura! Just, because their fear of Laura being from a group of radical, heavy Right wingers, even if in reality, she’s obviously not.

Also, please notice that during the interview [debate] Rikki was constantly pushing Laura to talk about British ethnicity. Which is obviously in the mind of the regular indoctrinated person will link this to race, and events from World War Two.

[See: Rikki Doolan vs Laura Towler – British Lives Matter Live Debate – Aug 6, 2020 — Transcript]

Rikki hijacked the “half aware” voting people in Britain, and demonized the Patriotic Alternative in eyes of the normal people even more. And I am sorry, but the argument of eight quadrillion, six million, and Mark Collett, being in the past exposed as a Third Reich sympathizer, are crushing for the image of the movement!

And this is not even on a stage where mass media will strike at Patriotic Alternative with massive demonizing attacks! So wars might come in the future if Patriotic Alternative would be gaining any significant traction in the country. Because, for now, the mass media prefers to not give them any attention at all. Until [While] they remain an irrelevant, marginal movement.

Now Miss Towler, you were trying to reach reason, with unreasonable indoctrinated people! You were honest, sincere, in your political stance. And that’s why you lost this debate! Your target audience in the debate were the half-aware people, those who are the majority of the voters in your country. Because those full-aware people will support Patriotic Alternative, either way. Because they are aware. But they are also a minority in Britain, without sufficient voting power.

Once again, people like Rikki will use this debate to expose Patriotic Alternative as a movement obsessed about race, and the ethnic cleansing of Britain! Sir Mark Collett and Miss Laura Towler, if any of you are listening to this video, please also check my other video which is called “Why a Political Solution is Impossible in our Current World System”, and and which should be linked below in the video description.

Because if you both are a reasonable people, you will realize very fast that any political movement without solid backing from master manipulators, and their institutions, and tons of money, is sentenced to fail! We are not living in the 30s anymore! Democracy does not exist in the West! It’s only an illusion! So please research that video and prove me wrong if you can.

Try to disagree with my claims which I made in that video over there.

I will play the little prophet here. So what awaits Patriotic Alternative? The movement will remain on the margin of society and state politics, with some small symbolic victories from time to time. And none of you will ever reach political power in Britain. It’s impossible in this system! And even if by miracle they will allow you to operate in politics, it will always be an irrelevant, marginal position without any impact in the political arena, or any decision-making process in your country.

Some of you, will start rejecting my claims, saying that I am wrong, or what I say is not true. But the only way to convince those stubborn, and deaf, with the voice of reason, is to let them sacrifice the next 4, 8, 12, years, or longer, and learn the truth about our reality in a painful, hard way.

The problem, lady Laura, that you said yourself, in 2035 the demographic shift in your country will probably create irreversible damage in the political arena. So at that time, coming into politics, with what you propose in your 20 points long Plan, will become even more impossible, than it is now! Just because Britain will not be sufficiently British anymore.

But either way, I support what you do. I wish the best for the movement, because it’s better than doing nothing! And nobody sane should be giving up on the future of your country, same as with all our countries in the West.

But I do inform you all, or remind you, that there is a peaceful, realistic, solution to save our civilization and our future. It’s presented in our Plan video series. As well in the documents linked below, our Plan videos. And our Plan does not contradict with what you propose, or do, over there for your country.

Our Plan serves as well to support movements like yours across the globe, in all our Western countries. But, what we are trying to do, into saving our future, this is a war for civilization! People like you over there in Britain, they are struggling to save the future of Britain.

But it’s a war for civilization, and no war can be won without economics! You need backing up in economics to wage this war. And relying on people donations, it’s simply not a strategy for victory! Why? We oppose people with almost unlimited amount of money, enormous corporations, corrupted government, politicians! Appealing to people’s reason and relying on donations, on a minority of voters in your country, it’s a way to nowhere! This is not how it works!

We can reason only with reasonable people, open-minded people. Those are a minority in all our Western countries. Majority of people are just indoctrinated! They lack independent, critical, thinking.

I have seen an interesting experiment on the streets of Germany, and in Poland. A guy was asking, with a microphone, random people on the street a question:

“Which do they prefer more? To remove income tax, or to get about an extra 500 Euros, or 500 Zloty in Poland, every month?”

The overwhelming majority of people said they wanted free money. They want those 500 Euros instead. This is the type of people which are the voters, and to whom you are trying to appeal to with the reason. It doesn’t work this way!

So anyway, it would be wise to research what we have to offer and propose to do, because it’s really the only realistic solution which might be applied in our Western countries, in our miserable situation today, to save our future. This is my claim.

The only way to verify my words is to do the research yourself. We have nothing to hide! Just please act responsible, and reasonable, and research our material. And please inform your supporters, subscribers, to do this as well. Because if I am right in my claims, then all those who are concerned about our future in this world should be aware of the existence of this opportunity to save our civilization, and our European nations in this world.

And one dramatic fact at the end, related to any future elections in any Western country, is that in times of crisis the populace, the regular, ignorant people, vote for political parties and candidates who promise more free “gibs” to everybody! That’s how it works. And you, instead, are appealing with reason, and a responsible program, which simply does not work with ignorant masses, as free “gibs” does.

I hope my words will be taken for consideration. Thank you for listening.

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OREL -Polstrat Project
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
Why a Political Solution is Impossible in our Current World System: https://youtu.be/GgtXWyRKN6k
There are many independent political movements across the West, who are trying to create political parties and enter national politics.
My opinion is that those political initiatives are a way to nowhere, might be beneficial and helpful if they support various alternatives in same time but when they feed rebellious people with promises, hope, and at the end bringing disappointment focusing people attention at political solution as ultimate solution only, then they do not only waste our time but also keeping people distracted from alternative options which might be actually a realistic solutions to oppose our destruction, and with every new disappointment the will to make united stand for our future is degrading.
The reasons why I think political solution is not possible anymore, I explained in my video called “Why a Political Solution is Impossible in our Current World System”
But the main reasons why I think it has no right to work, is lack of time, because we have less than 15 years before demographic shift in our countries will make political solution completely not possible anymore.
Another reason is that democracy is fraud, it’s an illusion, because realistically it does not exist anymore.
And obviously same as there are “economic hitmans”, there are also “political hitmans”, and there is no way to say “no” to them while you operate in politics: https://youtu.be/aLc3ehhPIKA
If you want to learn about realistic solution to save our future – study our material with the plan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El7INoAP8y4&list=PLQMa33XLGvZvl9q-aSrnh3RgJw-zs0ZTE
Plan in text document version: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ED15_0fEnsg87lUVt_gCvW2DiOK4qxWgFe4a9-YBZsE/edit?usp=sharing
Whatever you’re planning for your local area, for your community, or even your country, it will not save the future of the west or your state, your nation, if you plan to leave the rest of the world behind.
Those who control our system today understand this, they designed it that way, they control our countries internationally, and even through liberating one to be up against many is a lose-lose situation which will not change the final outcome, nor allow your country to remain independent and survive.
The only way to save and secure our future is international cooperation and organization which our plan offers, to save our future.
We will not leave aware people from other nations behind, we must work together, it’s the only way to move forward in this struggle for our future.
This operation is the only realistic peaceful solution, there is no alternative.
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Close the World Open the Next
1 week ago
Close this World
Open the Next

Close the World Open the Next
1 week ago
Does the response you have received from our movement tell you what you need to know already OREL? Most people don’t want to accept how bad our situation is (neither do you, but your a lot less copepilled than they are) because they don’t want to fight and would rather live in a comfortable lie that they will form the fourth Reich than fight back, in all likelihood dying in the process in a desperate attempt to destroy the world to save our race.

OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
@Close the World Open the Next I will make proper video response, its not over yet, before I make any final judgment I need to be absolutely sure, there are some fighters, maybe it will be enough, time will show.
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Close the World Open the Next
1 week ago
​@OREL -Polstrat Project If we are honest about our situation both me and you know the truth, that our race is already probably (if not certainly) dead… Your plan, just like mine, relies on the government not using it’s much, much stronger resources to destroy your plans, and if you are honest with yourself, you know they will, you know that your plan not only relies on that but a collapse than won’t ever come… At least my plan understands that collapse isn’t coming, my plan, to save our race through the destruction of the world, is almost certain to fail.

OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago (edited)
​@Close the World Open the Next I made proper decisions, preparations time ago, if I will see this winter, January that we got stuck with not sufficient help from the supporters, I will start making video series presenting knowledge which will help you in realization of your plan…

Bear hn
4 days ago (edited)
The only people agreeing with you when you make videos like this and flocking towards you now are the tribe, their gov. cronies and the non whites who are saying ‘nationalists its white supremacy and scapegoating’. Every time you make a video like this the left and the sjws are rubbing their handswith glee on your side and you give them support…Dead end trolls

OREL -Polstrat Project
4 days ago
@Bear hn no, the international ruling elite from the tribe are rubbing their hands and laughing form us, when they see how divided, disorganized and blind we are trying to make a difference by repeating mistakes of those before us who been trying to oppose them.
Our ship is flooded because full of holes leaking water, but lets grab the buckets and continue throwing water out hoping for staying on the surface and saving the ship while the water flooding in
How irresponsible is that? and its what leaders from PA doing.
They picking a fight which they cannot win with their current strategy.
I provided the only possible one in form of this plan, but people just dont care enough to research it, or to acknowledge certain facts
The only way to come out with proper counter-measures to organized destabilization and destruction of our European nations across the globe; is awareness and full understanding of the situation.
The only way to fully understand the situation and to come up with constructive conclusions and ideas is to be open to listen and consider unpleasant truths instead of believing in comforting lies.
Majority of you, have been feed with comforting lies for years, while in same time being exposed on whole this madness in our countries, and hearing worsening news about our situation from all over the world.
Majority of you started believing in the comforting lies; about people waking up, or about us fighting back, just because the comforting lies were allowing you to feel a bit better, sometimes even entertained about the situation.
Naturally feeling better, entertained, distracted and believing in comforting lies will not save you, will not save our future, and will definitely not change our situation for better.
The time, resources, opportunities are being wasted; we remain doing nothing meaningfully sufficient to oppose our destruction.
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Bear hn
4 days ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project
And you are contributing to that division,disorganisation and blindeness by your methodology. Why do you think the sjws and the tribe are agreeing with you when you make such ridiculous videos.
The ironic thing is that this’
‘The only way to fully understand the situation and to come up with constructive conclusions and ideas is to be open to listen and consider unpleasant truths instead of believing in comforting lies.’
statement is where you need to TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE.

Bear hn
17 hours ago (edited)
@OREL -Polstrat Project
Most of these online spaces are for shills who play at being onside; its a safety valve. If you were genuine you would police your own comments section. You have a nihilist troll ctworld following you. You cannot be genuine when you allow that. You are a liability for even allowing it. Ive seen other nationalist people/channels (genuine ones) openly tell people (the trolls and enemies) they will delete their comments etc

OREL -Polstrat Project
12 hours ago
@Bear hn I have policy of 0 censorship in the comment section Sir
I don’t even remove comments where people dox me or talk “craap “about me.

Bear hn
11 hours ago (edited)
@OREL -Polstrat Project
Tolerance is not a virtue. Learn to distinguish between critical allies and enemies. Would movements in the past have got anywhere if they had ‘tolerated’ the enemy? Think about it and how the enemies you are informed of subvert.
You have some good ideas but your methods are flawed. You are putting your plan second to so called ‘free speech’ from clown trolls and you have become/are becoming one yourself.

13BRAVO REDLEG
1 week ago
Migrants don’t compromise, they want it all…
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
Consider checking this and subscribing as well: https://youtu.be/JSVf2KOvgkA

Commander Rockwell XII
1 week ago
She clearly won the debate … they resort to muh nahtzee when in trouble
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Close the World Open the Next
1 week ago
And their tactic of calling us all “nahtzee” works, she clearly “lost” the debate in the eyes of the British masses and that is what matters.
We aren’t waking people up, we never will, the modern virtualized world is far, far more controlled than the world the actual “nahtzees” lived in.
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Cat Phuckers
1 week ago
People clearly don’t care when you throw around that word anymore.
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Close the World Open the Next
1 week ago
​@Cat Phuckers Just because they don’t care when a deranged leftist calls Trump a Nazi doesn’t mean they don’t care when someone (actually) advocating for White rights is called a Nazi (which is the default belief for most of the npc masses)
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago (edited)
No Sir Rockwell, her target audience were people aware about problems with migration, but in same time scared of being branded/called as naaziiis or raacists, and that controlled OP Rick guy branded PA as evil hateful raacist and a group who wants to preform ethnnnnic cleansing in Britain, while in same time pictured himself as anti-illegal migration, right-wing leader, who is not a haaatteful raacist..
So those undecided barely aware people will fear of siding with PA, and will chose him instead.
She did not achieve her goals and was mocked down by the Rick guy who scared/divided anti-migrant supporters from PA…
She lost the debate Rockwell.

Bear hn
4 days ago
@Close the World Open the Next
Laura Towler didnt lose any debate. People like Rikki are just laughed at.

Close the World Open the Next
4 days ago (edited)
@Bear hn By who? Us? Who cares, we are fucking irrelevant.

Bear hn
4 days ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project
She won the debate. Rikki is a fool and everyone knows that. He has no support WHATSOEVER !
Stop countersignalling aganist nationalists — thats all you ever do. You are acting like a complete shill at this point.

OREL -Polstrat Project
4 days ago
@Bear hn “Rikki is a fool and everyone knows that.”
WE KNOW THAT, but for the ignorant masses Laura was tagged as evil naaaazi who wants to preform ethnic cleeeeansing in UK, while Rikki pictures himself as a guy who is not evil or raaaaacist.
Laura target audience in this debate were the people awake about problems with migrants but majority of them still fear of raccism or any naaaazi related movements
Ricki succeed in mocking PA which means Ricky won the debate.

Bear hn
4 days ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project
The MASSES dont watch that ! ffs its a youtube video. Look at the views for Gods sake. Its just a debate. One of many.
You should try to focus. There are things about your idea that have great potential — some really good ideas but the way you are going about thngs is not building alliances which can furher your own aims. You are getting distracted.

Bear hn
4 days ago (edited)
@OREL -Polstrat Project
You must be a fool if you either care about or are interested what the ignorant masses think. The press will always say what it wants because that is their agenda. That isnt going to change. Rikki didnt succeed in anything. Everyone was laughing at him. Watch all the videos that were made about it. see how Rikkis channel went into freefall. He even had to block comments. Even the national MsM have written mocking him and have written article about him. If you want to get an accurate picture watch Morgoths Review calling Rikki a Del boy.. You are woefully ill informed on this and you are basically attacking your own side — thats if it is your own side. Try spending your time commenting on the DW video ‘Refugees Face Hell’ to counter all the leftists — thats where you and your followers are really needed and where you can roll up your sleeves and fight them and gain more support for your own cause.

OREL -Polstrat Project
4 days ago
@Bear hn wasn’t this debate accepted by PA, because they aim into political solution? at least thats what they claim in the plan on their website…
All aware people understand that civic-nationalism is a cancer as well, so what was even the point of having this debate if it was clear from the start that R guy is an idiot?

Bear hn
4 days ago (edited)
@OREL -Polstrat Project
Stop being a hypocrite and a liar. You said yourself there was a ‘symbiosis’ — your words.between political action where possible and other ventures. They are not mutually exclusive. I am not advocating PA either. There are a lot of dodgy supporters who unfortunately openly lie, so for me the jury is still out on that one.
Not only that but you forget the fact that the curious will watch such debates, begin to think and change their minds and will be further confirmed that Rikki had no substance to his arguments. Watch the Morgoth video.. It helps clarify the argument and leads people further in their thinking. It does not necessarily = full support. People are galvanised — even those curious who are not members of PA. If you were not part of that process and doing the same thing you would not be making videos yourself.

Bear hn
4 days ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project
btw also your adherence to natsocs wont gain widespread support you will need either — so you are not doing much else different but you go ahead and see if it works, Aint working so far.

OREL -Polstrat Project
4 days ago
​@Bear hn “You said yourself there was a ‘symbiosis’ — your words.between political action where possible and other ventures. They are not mutually exclusive.”
You are right, and its all in the plan as well but you see the the problem is when we are trying to establish cooperation and help various communities or political movements out there who may greatly benefit from what we are trying to build here but they ignore our appeals and turning “exclusive”, promoting political solution or community building in the country as the ultimate solution, while realistically it is not, so they either by ignorance and incompetence or intentionally misleading aware people into nowhere and in same time covering up the fact that realistic solution in form of this plan exist.
PA is being exclusive here about what they propose, not us who are trying to reach them and cooperate to save our future.
Whatever you’re planning for your local area, for your community, or even your country, it will not save the future of the west or your state, your nation, if you plan to leave the rest of the world behind.
Those who control our system today understand this, they designed it that way, they control our countries internationally, and even through liberating one to be up against many is a lose-lose situation which will not change the final outcome, nor allow your country to remain independent and survive.
The only way to save and secure our future is international cooperation and organization which our plan offers, to save our future.
We will not leave aware people from other nations behind, we must work together, it’s the only way to move forward in this struggle for our future.
Also about being hypocritical, read my new script please; https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KVkJI1-LnypA0DEHkeCJzglRdaylor98ki9gtyOhZMI/edit?usp=sharing

Bear hn
4 days ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project Do you think that people living in the country, living in the towns are just going to go in there gardens and just be self sufficient? There are millions and millions of people. What are they going to do? Form alternative societies?

OREL -Polstrat Project
4 days ago
@Bear hn I think they will share fate of Ukrainians during Holoooodomor.
You get the idea… the point is to be prepared for worst case scenario, and this is what our plan offers.

Bear hn
3 days ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project
No they dont. Your are deluded and paranoid and you are living in a fantasy world. Holodomor could just well as be an example of what would happen with your idea of running off into small vulnerable easily targetted communities.

Bear hn
3 days ago (edited)
@OREL -Polstrat Project
Its not all in your plan. Your plan, so called has been studied and found lacking — other people than myself addressed the details in it and in fact they did it better. Your response ?You double down, didnnt answer the questions and critiques but merely insulted the person responding to you.. You responded not with describing actual concrete practicalities but went off into political speeches merely repeating your tired phrases. You have insufficient methodology ,no timetable ,its vague and has no structure; you have not achieved any funding because theres nothing of substance or practical there. Its been almost a year and you have nothing in place even though you and your handful of supporters said you were tirelessly at work. You are merely begging and attacking other groups on the nationalist right. You did not respond to Asha Logos or publish his response to you.
Its no use endlessly repeating yourself with the same old ‘those who control our system today…’ etc telling people what they know already while avoiding the details and slyly evading the practicalities so you can evade rolling up your sleeves and applying yourself to a course of action. You had your so called farm idea as I recall. What became of that? nothing. Instead you waste your time n youtube making videos. I am not a member of PA or a party of the left so I am not going to comment on them ; but at least they are out in the real world whether they are right or wrong.
As for your exclusivity claim. Its you who are being exclusive for proposing an idea where you have no logisticcs, no resources, no finance and where in some measure you do have those you have no will to apply yourself. As for scripts — no thanks Ive read plenty of your scripts already they are predictable at this stage and just repetitive. I only got here this time because someone replied to a comment of mine left six months ago now, You claim you have supporters but I note that those who were with you six months ago are no longer present and I note that a year later you still have nothing produced that one can see — no website,no photographs of what youve built; nothing.

OREL -Polstrat Project
3 days ago
@Bear hn “You double down, didnnt answer the questions and critiques but merely insulted the person responding to you..”
I dont know what you are talking about, share your concerns/points here or stop spreading disinfo.

“You responded not with describing actual concrete practicalities but went off into political speeches merely repeating your tired phrases.”
Still no idea what you are talking about

“You did not respond to Asha Logos or publish his response to you.”
I did, I even published the log of what he said and what I said to him…
Video is called “OREL — Operational Report 01 and Course of Action 02”
Log is linked in video description.

“Its been almost a year and you have nothing in place even though you and your handful of supporters said you were tirelessly at work.”
How about you join our work group or visit our website for all the updates instead of spreading disinfo?

“Its no use endlessly repeating yourself with the same old ‘those who control our system today…’ etc telling people what they know already while avoiding the details and slyly evading the practicalities so you can evide rolling up your sleeves and applying yourself to a course of action.”
What details? I cannot talk details about “them” or I will expose our channel on increased risk, about details related to our work , check website, join work group, or research operational reports or plan materials here on youtube.

“You had your so called farm idea as I recall. What became of that? nothing. Instead you waste your time n youtube making videoss.”
And how do you want me to build a single farmstadt without resources or sufficient number of people? In order to build farmstadt, you need few aware farmers in specific region/country + we need to be financially self-sufficient and thats what we are working on right now + we still trying to assemble people because without people there is no security.
We have few farmers but nothing to invest into them at this stage of the operation + they spread on 3 continents…

“I am not a member of PA or a party of the left so I am not going to comment on them ; but at least they are out in the real world whether they are right or wrong.”
IF we are to find and assemble people, we must do it via internet first, trying to do that in real world is like winning lottery ticket because most of people are indoctrinated blind sheep.

“As for your exclusivity claim. Its you who are being exclusive for proposing an idea where you have no logisticcs, no resources, no finance and where in some measure you do have those you have no will to apply yourself.”
We are following the plan Sir, first thing first…
1. Assemble People
2. Decentralization of organization/power structure for security reasons
3. Construction of first business company for Polstrat/Tradestrat development + maintenance.
We are working over those three objectives at once for now.

“You claim you have supporters but I note that those who were with you six months ago are no longer present and I note that a year later you still have nothing produced that one can see — no website,no photographs of what youve built; nothing.”
Maybe consider checking last operational report Sir… because at this point I am certain you have no idea what are you talking about.
polstrat.org

Bear hn
3 days ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project
How typical Orel. You claimed you already had a team woring on a project. A year later and yo still havent achieved stage one? You had team members in their accounts (if they are not sock pupert accounts) on your comments section expressed their support. What happened to them ? How many do you need 5? 50? 500? 5000? Maybe you wont begin until you reach 100,000 because it wouldnt be feasible to do otherwise for such a big project. You refuse to take a first step by starting on something modest but achievable. You are like a man dreaming of an empire who wants to build a city overnight but who ends up dreaming of castles in the air because no builders will help him. All the while you refuse to listen that you can start building not on your plan but on something it might be possible for you to achieve in the short term then build from there. Didnt sometime ago you also say you were going to start a crowdfunding campaugn? what happened to that?

OREL -Polstrat Project
3 days ago
@Bear hn yes, teammates work over various projects, mostly related to IT, TacMAPP prototype is ready for example.
+ YES I cannot accomplish stage 1 ( to assemble enough people) because we have no help from major youtubers on our side.
I told you same as I said that in the videos , we need 10 000- 20 000 people to accomplish stage 1.

“You refuse to take a first step by starting on something modest but achievable.”
No Im not refusing, that’s why we are working over those IT Projects, to create something what we may sell and start earning money on to establish the first company from the plan.

“Didnt sometime ago you also say you were going to start a crowdfunding campaugn? what happened to that?”
Two campaigns were shut down days after publication.
Third one is up, alive for now, will be over in a month if there wont be any troubles.
( check youtube community announcements or the website for updates, there are also videos about this campaign on our channel )
cheers.

Bear hn
2 days ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project
So obviously the way you are going about stage one ‘Assembling people’ isnt working.
‘Various project’ what does that even mean??? Why dont you get them to focus on one particular project?
Where is th evidence for these IT projects of yours ??? Its been a year….
If you had been starting up a business with your methods you’d be ‘in business’ a year without having produced anything and without having anything to sell. All youve done is made some youtube videos and say ‘the rest we are doing behind the scenes’.

OREL -Polstrat Project
2 days ago
@Bear hn 1. Well without people we have no security, so we must accomplish stage 1 somehow.
2. Various IT projects ( TACMAPP + Gamemodes, documentation is linked on website and in crowdfounder campaign description )
We started development of the TACMAPP 2-3 months ago, all updates “evidence” are on the website
3. Well we haven’t been starting up a business yet, we aiming for that now, but first we need to accomplish developing the product..
Nothing is done behind the scenes without informing the audience.

Bear hn
2 days ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project
1. You fail because you alienate those people you claim you want to win over and assemble. You either do it deliberately in which case you are a troll or you are just unable to listen to people and be flexible — even though you might have some worthwhile ideas (if you are genuine) You dont listen even when other people tell you to open a dialogue first instead of going autistic about your plan.
2. If you have anything new I will take a look.
3. Well so. You should just use the farmland and get started a cultural related project as a means of establishing step one. above (assembling people) Cheaper and easier and from there launch your other ideas. But whatever.

Commander Rockwell XII
1 week ago
They are trying to preserve the Aryan … which is what WE are
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
Many are trying, with various strategies, most of them have zero chances for success so it must be pointed out to prevent them from making strategic mistakes.

OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
Also and what you think we are trying to do? but opposite to them we actually may succeed and they do not stand a chance.
If you have a problem here, go reason with THEM, not me, its they who refuse/ignore to listen.

Chad Pandapneumonium
1 week ago
I agree politics will not work but we must keep up the appearance while preparing behind the scenes as we all know where this is heading. PA are not perfect but they are worth supporting.
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
I support them, trying to help them, but why wont they do same thing for us? where is solidarity and mutual support for initiatives to save our future?
I appealed to Mark in private, and even in official public video.
He never replayed.
Now I provided criticism for what he blindly stands for, to point out obvious problems with PA Plan … so maybe they will improve it or change strategy.
You said yourself, you agree politics will not work, so why nobody propose to him the plan presented on our channel? why is he ignoring the realistic solution to save our European nations which we bring to the table?
Sir Mark does not act reasonable, this must be pointed out because we are running out of time.
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Bear hn
4 days ago (edited)
@OREL -Polstrat Project
There you go again Orel always on the beg. Why not ask your Polski shop owners in the west? There are enough of them.

OREL -Polstrat Project
4 days ago
@Bear hn beg? + Regular “aware” pole is the one who blames Russia/Germany + puppet politicians for the situation… they do not understand the big picture so… no I cannot ask Poles for help until I will target Germany or Russia…

Bear hn
4 days ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project
Oh Orel — once again you are referring to the big picture over which we have little to no control. You are on the continent — ask for the help of groups there. Try to accomplish something small first ; show by example and then people will have more confidence in whatever bigger proposals you have otherwise thie way you are going about things will just help the sjws. If you spend 5mins looking at the comments section on other channels which unecessarily attack those who would sympathise and agree with you, you would know that your actions in making a video like this dont help you and are not being productive towards your own cause whatsoever.

OREL -Polstrat Project
4 days ago
@Bear hn And we will never regain control, if we wont be smart enough cooperate and work over realization of a plan which offers realistic solution.
Otherways we may continue wasting time while the West is dying.
I will continue repeating this as a fact, until our situation wont change.
At the end we will all face consequences of our stupidity, I’m losing faith, we cannot help people, who do not want to save themselves, and majority of the “Aware” people, dont really act as they care about what awaits us.
So we will remain weak, divided, until we finally all go extinct in few generations.

Bear hn
4 days ago (edited)
@OREL -Polstrat Project
If you are genuine then the way you are going about things is wrong and does not encourage co-operation. You might get people to listen were you to open a dialogue first and be less dogmatic instead of insiting in a loud voice ‘It HAS TO BE MY WAY!’
Even if you are correct in your assertions about other people to attack them in the way you do does not encourage fruitful alliances and possible co-operation. It didnt work with Asha and it isnt working now. Bitnow its the double act with the end of the word troll.

gozer
1 week ago
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Mark Collett has done infinitely more for the movement than you could ever imagine. Not to mention he would destroy you in a debate. Btw, you know what’s really bad for the movement? Constantly attacking others within it and punching right.
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red x17
1 week ago
I have to agree, orel this was a bad move. We shouldn’t attack potential allys or people who are the enemies of our enemies
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
I am not attacking Mark, I am exposing strategic critical error in strategy,
Did you want me to let Mark struggle for nothing? heading into nowhere?
Thanks to my criticism Mark may actually improve his ideas/strategy and chose a different approach.
I am helping him, not punching.
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gozer
1 week ago
@red x17 100%
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
@red x17 So you saying I’m not allowed to tell allies who are wrong, that they are wrong for sake of relations ignoring the fact that my allies picking a fight which they cannot win?
I cannot keep my mouth shut, while I see how we are losing everyday, and while we continue to repeat the same mistakes from the past.
Mark is doing what Mosley was already trying before, it does not work this way anymore… is it really that difficult to understand the big picture here? that democracy is a fraud, that majority of people lack of independent critical thinking and they vote or do as they told by those with authority in the gov/mass media and education which obviously act against interest of our nations?
Are you sure I did wrong and my logic is flawed?
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Close the World Open the Next
1 week ago
Mark Collet has done absolutely nothing for our movement and he would loose in a debate with OREL, both would loose horribly in a debate with me if I bothered to make videos, but I don’t because it’s pointless, you dotes will never fight back, all you ever do is “wait around for the revolution” and it’s all you have been doing since 1945.
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Anglus Patria
1 week ago
@Schlomo Moshe Shekelgoldbergstein
If I could be arsed to produce videos you would lose to me in a debate, and Mark Collett would be polishing my toenails and his wife making me brekky if we ever came face to face. But nonetheless I completely agree, Western Nationalism has been enthralled with Americanised wignat politico nonsense that’s yet to get us anywhere but further along the garden path and out the book door, ie time sink and become a minority.
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
gozer if you have a possibility, inform Mark that I will be more than happy of having a public talk with him about the situation and possible solutions
I’m totally up for a debate.
So if you have possibility, tell him that I was trying to reach him in the past, and I’m more than willing to have a public debate.
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Close the World Open the Next
1 week ago
​@Anglus Patria If me and you actually debated you wouldn’t stand a chance Britbong, hopefully I won’t be alive for that debate anyways, I have been running from the call of the void for far too long… I must close this world to open the next
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp5kUmni5Dk

Æthelred the Ready
1 week ago
@Anglus Patria Collett hasn’t even got a wife to make you brekky. The man who talks a lot about traditionalism and the erosion of family values, has a 1 year old kid, born out of wedlock and who’s father refers to the child’s mother as his girlfriend.
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Æthelred the Ready
1 week ago
@gozer Unless that glass house needs to be torn down as quickly as possible.

Anglus Patria
1 week ago
@Close the World Open the Next
Nice try Amerimut. If we debated you’d rage quit within 20 minutes. Unlike you though big guy, I’m a younglet and full of energy, rearing and chomping at the bit to bring down PA and restart the Ulster Defence Force

Anglus Patria
1 week ago
@Æthelred the Ready
Based. Mark Collett is the washed up degen Kang that British Nationalism needs, only God and a 2 minute BBC news smear segment will stop us now
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Close the World Open the Next
1 week ago
@Anglus Patria “I’m a younglet and full of energy, rearing and chomping at the bit to bring down PA and restart the Ulster Defence Force”
Hahaha you still think there is hope, probably fantasizing about some sort of peasant revolution in which your crowned King, you people will never learn.

My heart is a fedpost
1 week ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project Its called Division of Labor. All revolutions that succeed embrace this. Revolutions that fail often in fight. I realize you aren’t infighting but how else are we going to take this?

OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
@My heart is a fedpost 1. We are in miserable situation today and we are running out of time, we must be smart to unite on international level over an idea/solution (not a person) which actually can be done with our own hands without need of awakening ignorant masses
2. I am appealing to people reason not emotions, hoping that we — the “aware” people are reasonable enough and will act as independent critical thinkers who are capable of identifying what is good for us and our future, setting our priorities straight, applying pure reason and arguments for or against any solution proposed, because its the only way to come out with the best ideas to save our future.
3. As reasonable people we must be open to listen and consider various ideas, because really … if we will screw up or ignore some opportunities, then we may pay for that with our own head in the future, and future for our children will be taken away forever from our hands..
4. Time of revolutions is over, we are dealing with nations, which in overwhelming majority are a bunch of materialistic sheep, who are willing to give away their own freedom, rights, their own country for relatively peaceful life, a slave mentality at its finest… extremely shortsighted.
People today are weak, ignorant, selfish, not a warrior/revolutionist material, except those on the left or minority groups who are
indoctrinated for years to hate our culture, values, just us in general because of our skin color …
5. Mark must understand that we must cooperate, we cannot operate divided focusing over different goals, or we wont create this “force” capable of reshaping this world
6. We must strike at the system, subvert the system on international level, every fight for independence of a single country is sentenced to fail
7. We must be open to accept criticism and respond to it, its the only way to find the best ideas for a solution.
8. Our team offered a solution, a plan presented step by step how to make a stand for our future, we just need to spread the word, reach people and hope they will be smart enough to research and appreciate this opportunity, or we are all going to end up at the bottom with time..
So generally we must be open to cooperate and criticize eachother IDEAS, and work together over the best proposed ideas. expecting our “aware” guys to act responsible/resonable.
Does this answer to your question?
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red x17
1 week ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project how many friends do you have on the right? I understand you were trying to help them and the action came from a good place but I would recommend to build up friends in our political sphere before doing any type of criticising. I seen you did try to reach out to some other YouTubers but this is simply not enough
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
@red x17 “how many friends do you have on the right?”
Individuals? many, anyone who spares some time to do research, declares help and support, they join us in our work team and not only monitor our work but also help according to their possibilities.
But famous influential friends on the right with range etc? — none I afraid..
Everybody just minding their own business, ignoring my appeals.
I am always open to meet new friends; I want objective allies, who are able to act rational in our difficult times.
I’m open to cooperate with anyone who shares our concerns about future of our European nations around the world, and who understands how serious situation is and who wants to truly oppose our destruction.
A question here Sir, did you research what we propose? did you read the plan? it would help you to understand how important this is for our future.

My heart is a fedpost
1 week ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project Well now I feel like we are kinda saying the same thing. And maybe I shouldve went a little more in depth, im kinda busy, but I agree w you that if even that division of labor is not working in lockstep, it will be like trying to herd cats. Maybe I don’t understand your position well enough and need to dig into some of your position more. I think maybe im not grasping the whole picture. And by revolution i didn’t necessarily mean bombs and shootings, just a revolution in general.

red x17
1 week ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project i read most of it, the videos and your long Google doc file

OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
@red x17 Whole the plan is presented in that google doc, or in 9 parts long plan video series.
Its a instruction step by step, how we may liberate our countries from hands of international ruling elite.
The plan is universal, will allow us to restore rules of sanity and reason in this world either in this system, or after this system is going to collapse on its own.
But the essential element to make this all work are people, we need to inform people who share our concerns about future of our nations/countries/civilization in this world.
This plan is designed for North America, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and even for those unlucky one in Republic of South Africa.
MORE — this plan is an opportunity not only for European nations, but for non-European as well to oppose the international financial institutions which enslave and exploit their countries today.
This plan is everything we need to know, about what to do and how, in order to oppose our destruction/enslavement in this world.
Just do the research please, read only the document if videos are too long to watch.
And we must increase awareness about this plan existence, and for unknown reasons Mark even if addressed by me, refused to do that.
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Bear hn
4 days ago (edited)
@Close the World Open the Next
You use the word ‘Britbong’ then you beg for money and favours from them. Many Eastern European do the same. Time to stand on your own two feet.
You are totally insincere a nihilist parasite.

Bear hn
5 hours ago
@red x17
and…?

daniel black
1 week ago
Orel is right. Although we understand the critical situation the UK is in (well England really as mass immigration has barely touched the other nations) most people have been programmed to refute any white collectivism. Whilst of course accepting non white collectivism and white excluding organisations. The media quickly stamps on any political movement like this and makes them unelectable. I am not sure what the solution is.
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Gabby Mouse
1 week ago
Good video. An interesting, but rather dry, book is “Democracy: The God That Failed” by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. Hoppe is actually a libertarian who has come to the conclusion that the only system that actually works is a monarchy. Whether you agree or not, one thing that could be said about monarchical systems is that the average person didn’t have to waste mental space thinking about politics 24/7/365. What a waste of human mental activity, and ultimately pointless. I had pretty much come to the same conclusion as you as regards these small movements. They are often made up of good people, but they will always be minor players at best. They remind me somewhat of the incident in the Lord of the Rings when the Black Riders had attacked the Shire, looking for Frodo. The Shire was roused and the horns of Buckland were raised to give the alarm: “Fear! Fire! Foes!” As the Black Riders rode off, they said, “Let the little people blow.” Well, this is exactly the position of these groups, the controllers just ‘let the little people blow’. I’m going to have to listen to your whole series, I’ve saved them, but I was so busy working and then trying to get a website made that I just didn’t have a chance.
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Daniel Rúben
1 week ago
The problem is that you can get good monarchies, like the portuguese ones, that were generally benign to their people, or bad monarchies, like the french or the english

Gabby Mouse
1 week ago
@Daniel Rúben One of the benefits of even a bad monarchy is that it won’t last forever: either some noble or nobles will overthrow it, or the monarch will die from natural causes or in battle and there will be a completely new person in charge. With these ‘democracies’ and ‘republics’, the system goes on and on and on.

Daniel Rúben
1 week ago
@Gabby Mouse I haven’t read the book but does he make a case for the existence (or non existence) of a social ladder in a monarchial society?

Prometheus
10 hours ago
Gabby Mouse In monarchy you can have incompetent leaders in democracy every leader is incompetent
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Xell Dincht
1 week ago
A political party that represents the European people is a good thing but that is not enough: We need to win the meta-political war (Martin Sellner from the Identiterian Movement of Austria made great videos about it)
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
We need mutual support, cooperation, and people need to hear about what we have to offer when it comes to ideas for saving our future.
As it stands for today, we do hold the only realistic solution which might be applied in our miserable situation today, and people who share our concerns about our future in this world must hear about existence of this plan.
So why Mark ignores this opportunity? with his help we could get range very fast.

Xell Dincht
1 week ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project
i agree with you that right wingers of Europe should work together because its a global problem that affects the entire Western Europe

OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
@Xell Dincht Our enemies operate on international level, in this globalized system, if we are to oppose them we must operate united on same global level.
If you can tell this to Mark, and tell him to research our material about solution for our miserable situation today.

Prometheus
10 hours ago
OREL -Polstrat Project Exactly we must have a global narrative on the right.

Frogs Pepe
1 week ago
So we shouldn’t even try
Great
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Bob Bobbertson
1 week ago
This is literally what every contrarian says. It really makes me think. Especially when most of these people are outed as grifters.
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Frogs Pepe
1 week ago (edited)
Bob Bobbertson
What are you talking about
Please could you elaborate
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
Read the video description and my TOP pinned comment.
Should we be trying with political movements into politics? — YES, at least to show our existence..
But should we focus our all efforts and attention aiming into political solution? — NO.
We may do so if we have alternatives which we are working on, and until it does not cost us much resources etc.
BUT if we are told to trust them and do what we can while leaving other options closed or on the margin — then NO, its a strategic mistake.
Patriotic Alternative seems to believe that they are going to win, ignoring everything else while they heading into dead end.
We were trying to contact them, and offer cooperation, after all movements like PA will be benefiting from fruits of our operation/work here..
Unfortunately they decided to ignore our appeal.
Hopefully this video will drag their attention.
I made this video to warn them, and inform them how things should be done.
There is really no other way around.
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jeremy Lyons
1 week ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project why do you make the presumption that PA and its ilk are just opting for a political solution and leaving other options closed off?
This is a very big leap on your part, and it’s what your diagnosis of their heading into a dead end is based on.
Im sure — I hope — you mean well, but there are some big leaps here. It seems that their “ignoring your appeal” has motivated this.
I have seen you say things about others as well, as if you seem to believe that it is whether specifically collaborating with you is what determines whether someone is closed off and dead-ended or not.
Perhaps it is due to English not being your first language that something is lost in translation, but that is how you are coming across — to me, at least.
If this is mistaken, could you please make things more clear somehow?
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Bob Bobbertson
1 week ago
@Frogs Pepe A lot, not all, but many in the “reactionary community” if it can be called a community. Are so blackpilled, they are saying even with a Trump second term. It will be negotiated on the terms of the permanent state. Essentially their sentiment boils down to what OP said.
“It’s unironically already lost, everything is over. Thanksgiving is over, Christmas is abolished, the governors can single handedly legislate religion, the pastors are either complicit in this attack or apathetic, they canceled independence day, and now you will have to wash black feet on made up holidays like Juneteenth.”
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Bob Bobbertson
1 week ago
@jeremy Lyons I agree with your implications. The problem is, we are here. Where ever here is, and nothing has really been done by the so called silent majority. They have no power, and if they do have power they have demonstrated nothing is going to rouse them into organized action, or even disorganized action.
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
@jeremy Lyons
“why do you make the presumption that PA and its ilk are just opting for a political solution and leaving other options closed off?”
1. There’s nothing else they propose, did you read the “plan” on their website?
2. They seems not open for any other proposed solutions or cooperation on international level.
“This is a very big leap on your part, and it’s what your diagnosis of their heading into a dead end is based on.”
The facts are:
– we are running out of time to apply any solution to save our future, and the ideas which actually might have impact are being ignored or set on a side… while we focus on strategy which has no chance of success, check my video about political solution, I explain everything clearly over there, how it all works…
– any initiative which does not aim for international organization and international stand for our future is sentenced for defeat
I’m open to debate anyone on this, but if you do understand what groups of people we oppose and how they operate, then you must understand on your own, that to win, to preserve native ethnicity of our European nations and gain independence of our countries we must take control over the SYSTEM, not a single or few countries, we must strike at the SYSTEM level.
So any initiatives, plans which ignore this fact, will not save our future.
And I cant bare the fact that while we are all on the same boat, in the same situation, we still show ignorance and refuse to cooperate over higher goals/objectives..
It makes us divided, weak, opposite to our enemies who act as united community of sacrifice and solidarity, with mutual respect, being active while they support eachother..
Our side opposite.. we are individualistic, arrogant, we ignore whats important, we focus on our own selfish well being, ignoring the interest of the group, we are also cowardly and idle.
That’s how it looks like form my observation.
If you want me to clarify something specific, point it out to me.
Regards
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jeremy Lyons
1 week ago
​@OREL -Polstrat Project And is the website your sole reference?
There’s a glaring problem with how you’ve characterised things — you are taking one source, the public facing source, and inferring from there.
You describe the situation more broadly as it affects the Anglosphere and Europe correctly — this I contend in no way .But you are jumping the gun with regards to this organization, and while I would not generally encourage folks to make assumptions, do you really assume that Mark, with all his experience, isn’t aware of these things and isn’t just limiting himself to the same old shtick?
Why would they advertise all of what they’re doing behind the scenes, IRL, in terms of community organisation and otherwise, etc?
You correctly diagnose our shortcomings insofar as individualism and ego, etc — but in your eagerness to have others see sense as you see it, you are making presumptions that are quite unbecoming.
The way you appear to people in how you are going about this runs the risk of sowing the same kind of issues and tension you are decrying. I am sure it is not intended, and I am sure you simply have seen many well meaning but foolhardy people go about empty efforts and simply do not wish to see senseless repetition, but if you project that wrongly onto others who are not merely of the same here-today-gone-tomorrow cloth, you do not help matters.
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
@jeremy Lyons “And is the website your sole reference?”
Its their official website Sir, if you have some other official source, please provide.

“you are taking one source, the public facing source, and inferring from there.”
Could you provide to me some other source?

“You describe the situation more broadly as it affects the Anglosphere and Europe correctly “
– All Western countries, whole Europe, whole North America etc.
“do you really assume that Mark, with all his experience, isn’t aware of these things and isn’t just limiting himself to the same old shtick?”
I hope not, but whatever they planning on a side, don’t we have right to know about it? our future is at stake here… also once again — you cannot liberate your country while you leave rest of the world behind, because we live in globalized system.
So if there is something else, what almost nobody else knows about, then how it suposto work for us Sir?
If Mark has something else, then shouldn’t we be informed about it? we are on the same boat… I was appealing to Mark before, via fb, email, … no response..
So I decided that public appeal should drag his attention finally and respond, and I hope he will, because we are running out of time and the West is dying.
None plan to save our future may work in conspiracy, its impossible as well.
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Close the World Open the Next
1 week ago (edited)
Trying to wake the npc masses up for the (it’s been tried to many times to count) time is doing nothing.
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Chap
1 week ago

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Alex Alex
1 week ago
UwU
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Chap
1 week ago
@Alex Alex owo

JeSuisTadpole XIV
1 week ago
You’re so wrong, and must be delusional if you truly believe Doolen won that debate, but no, i believe you know EXACTLY what you’re doing
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
Target Audience were the people aware about migrant problem, who witnessed in past few years how England is changing into worse cause of the situation.
And the same people are sensitive about “racccism” and other subjects related to “hooolocaust” etc.
The Doolen was constantly cornering Laura, at subject of “ethnicity” or “British raaaaaace”, heading so far as accusing them of plans for some “eeethniiiic cleansing” ( he was mocking PA in eyes of barely-aware people )
Doolen got what he wanted from this Debate, those are:
– tagging PA as evil naaazzisi, raaacists and bigots.
– he offered to those barely aware viewers an alternative, in form of his movement,, which is about opposing illegal migration, to certain extend also the leftist madness BUT in same time not being an evil “raacist” ( he pictured himself as better option for those on the right who dont want to be branded “raaacist”
So yes… he got Laura where he needed to mock her image down in front of those “barely aware” possible voters/supporters.
PA could not lose this debate when it comes to people who are “more aware”, to an extend of understanding that “civic nationalism” is almost equally cancerous as the left on the long run, but it does not matter, because PA supporters are an minority in the country and on their own there is not enough of them to have any impact on political arena in the country…
Patriotic Alternative has no chance of reaching true political power as long majority of people will be indoctrinated and afraid of associating with anything related to ethnic identity.
And dont forget PA is opposing well established Gov, mass media, and more…
Doolen got what he wanted, he divided people who have problems with migrants in UK and because of this he won this debate. ( it does not matter he was wrong, what matters is that he tagged PA as evil hateful raaaacccist naaaazzzi movement )
Dare to disagree?
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
@wait wot “As long as the foundational lies remain, the indoctrination will remain intact”
You get it right, so we cannot expect that regular indoctrinated ignorant masses will wake up and allow us to have access to any political solution, its simply not possible anymore.
We may relay only on already “Aware”, and responsible people capable of independent critical thinking, so if we come out with plans for any solutions, the plans must be designed adequately to brutal facts from our reality..
Our plan was designed to work only with support of “aware” people, we do not need ignorant masses to wake up, I dont even believe its possible until it will be already too late to fix anything.
We must act now, so if you have possibility, encourage other “aware” people to research our plan and mobilize them to work together over the realization.
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Patty Crabby
1 week ago
Lots of butthurt PA people crawling out of the woodwork on this one.
But I’m with Orel on this. There is no political solution for us. Politics are a club. A club ruled by people with agendas that are diametrically opposed to Nasho values. That’s the simple truth of it. Thinking we can get somewhere with the political system THEY control is like a homeless person thinking they can get into a gated community on merit alone. We, and our views, our values ARE NOT WELCOME in THEIR system.
Build community. Not politically. Don’t fundraise for ads and banners. Get land. Segregate yourselves. DISCONNECT. Work beyond the existing system.
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Strontium Dog
1 week ago
Patty Crabby I’m under the impression that PA hopes to build communities and attract supporters as a priority above party politics. As far as fund-raising goes, I think that comment is best answered by Sticky Ricky.
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Abstractism
1 week ago
Disconnect would probably be the only true option when land will no longer exist as a private good.

Bear hn
4 days ago
There is no building a community outside of the political system. You will get used to that fact in time.

Patty Crabby
3 days ago
@Bear hn You obviously aren’t trying. The Amish and Menonites have existed “outside the system” for a looong time buddy. Despair and hopelessness is the real Achilles heel of the West

Bear hn
3 days ago (edited)
@rustygates
lol ‘Amish budddeeeee;.Orels Amish community who couldnt find two sticks to rub together.
Neither of those exist outside the system. You are a deluded troll. Little gated communities playing shangri la are an irrelevance when it comes to the millions living in the west. Youre trying to cope with the change. Its going to surround you. Isolate all you want. Your seige mentality wont help you one bit.

Jan K.
1 week ago
Even if you don’t believe in a political solution, don’t you need a movement for any other solution?
Patriotic Alternative is that movement either way
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Dr. Jellyfingers
1 week ago (edited)
We can’t organise anything while people are scared of a fake outbreak, all meetings and real life organising has been made unlawful, you think they’ll roll that back after the vax is mandated, I don’t.

Close the World Open the Next
1 week ago
It’s not a movement at all, it’s a complete joke, they will achieve absolutely nothing and the masses will never wake up, stop coping with fantasies of the masses rebelling against the Zionist controlled state, they never will. We only save our race through the destruction of this world, which will probably never happen.
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Gabby Mouse
1 week ago
@Close the World Open the Next I take it you’re some kind of commie troll here to spread despair. You really sound like an unstable moron.
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
We need to reach the “Aware” people about our miserable situation, with information about existence of the plan/the realistic solution which we present on our channel.
Speaking of which, did you research our proposed plan yet SIr?

Bear hn
4 days ago (edited)
@OREL -Polstrat Project
You were going on about your miserable situation a year ago, you are still going on about your miserable situation now and in a decades time you will still be complaing about your miserable situation.
You cant teach a miserable dog new tricks.

OREL -Polstrat Project
4 days ago
@Bear hn Well our situation did not change, its getting worse, and it wont change until the “aware” people wont take things a bit more seriously…

Bear hn
2 days ago (edited)
@OREL -Polstrat Project
Yeah and thats why you allow a commie troll like close the world to troll and latch on to you. You have made yourself the enemy of nationalism. That isnt a ‘serious’ position.

Prometheus
10 hours ago
This is based on the idea that we actually have political power or a means to get it. Democracy is a pharce, people have no actual power. Read Mencius Moldbug.

Bear hn
10 hours ago (edited)
@Prometheus
Moldbug is outdated now. Political power = the control of the ability to determine finance and use of resources. If you dont have that control someone else will. Cede ground and it is taken. You listen to kanyewest and rap already a wignat. Quit the pretence.

Prometheus
10 hours ago
Anyone interested in understanding this should research Mencius Moldbug and his idea of the cathedral he explains the situation and why political solutions are not possible.

OREL -Polstrat Project
8 hours ago
we also have video dedicated to this subject Sir

Barbara — wir uns kennenlernen
1 week ago
0:35 haha
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Dave Job
1 week ago
Last I heard, you were trying to fund raise to create a game(!?) to sell to people to raise money ….for a vague idea of investing in your very own supply chain…This plan is both naieve and misguided in my opinion. And you continually critisize all those who disaggree with you. Orel, you should be seeking to create ties with your community not sever them.
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
1. I suggest you check documentation of this “game”, because it might literary be saving lives in possible crisis situation.
This so called “game” has tactical value for emergency situations and possible training for difficult times to come.
2. We need to be financially independent, without relaying on charity or donations… choosing economic approach is not only reasonable but also honorable.
3. Criticism is necessary for improvements or for finding better ideas in general.
If something has no right to work in theory, then why even trying?
Whats the point of using strategy which has no right to work? whats the point of waging a battle which you cannot win?
We either will start acting smart, taking criticism as a man which we are, or should be at least,, or we will continue being MISGUIDED by noble sounding bad ideas, speeches and activity for a show, not for success..
Chose wisely what you want…. an illusion of a fight for a show and a defeat at the end, or the best ideas to be applied into saving our future?
Be reasonable Sir, and I wish others would be so open for honest criticism as I am, so our work would be much more productive and beneficial for securing our future.
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red x17
1 week ago
@OREL -Polstrat Project personally I would prefer to invest such money in a safer buissness then games that could flop quite easily especially from a small developer. But I am no expert in the market
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OREL -Polstrat Project
1 week ago
@red x17 We are investing those money into this IT/Gaming company for a purpose.. and this purpose is POLSTRAT and TRADESTRAT Platform development and maintenance.
If it would be only about making money, of course I would chose different idea, but we need this company as cover up business for Polstrat and Tradestrat Platform.
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jeremy Lyons
1 week ago
I actually think his game idea — as a biz and strategic concept — is good. It is in the very least the right kind of constructive thinking .
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