Mark Collett: Hello everybody, and welcome to Book Club.

 

Now, it’s been a little while since the last book club, and that’s because we had Easter Sunday, and obviously we didn’t want to be streaming on Easter Sunday because everyone’s spending time with their family, etc. And it was a nice night off, but it delayed this particular episode. But we’re finally here, and we are live tonight on Odysee, DLive, Rumble and Entropy.

 

So you can find us in all of those good places. And tonight we are reviewing The Myth of German Villainy.

 

Now, this is the second edition, so I could only find this edition available in one place, and that’s directly from Money Tree Publishing. And we have Dave Gahary from Money Tree Publishing tonight to talk about the book, because the author has sadly passed away, so he’s going to be the representative discussing the book and discussing the things that have been added to it and why it’s an important book. So he’s taking the place of the author.

 

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And I think this is a really important stream, and it’s a really good book!

 

And I’m going to throw it over to Dave in a minute because I want him to give sort of the intro. We’re still waiting on Aunt Sally. She’s having a few computer problems, so she might be with us tonight. She might not be, but her computer’s running really slow, so we’ll see if she arrives.

 

But before we get into the book, I want to say something about this.

 

Now, we’ve reviewed, or this is the 31st book we’ve reviewed on Book Club. So we’ve reviewed, you know, 30 books up until this day. And we have reviewed other books that have dealt with the realities, the truths of the Second World War. And you might be thinking to yourself:

 

“Well, Mark, we’ve had a few reviews like this. We’ve covered a few books like this. Why would I want to read this book?”

 

And I’m going to start by saying, I read this book, and there were things in this book I didn’t know.

 

Now, I’m not saying that I am the best read or the most educated when it comes to the historical facts of the First and Second World War. But there were some pretty major things that cropped up in this book that I actually hadn’t heard about. And there was things that I had heard about. And this book allowed me to build on my knowledge and my sort of historical grasp of these events. So I found the book very interesting.

 

[03:07]

 

So if you’re coming into this thinking maybe:

 

“Well, this sounds really great, Mark. This is the kind of book I’d like to read. But what makes this book different from other books like this that you’ve reviewed in the past?”

 

I want to just get that out the way straight away that I enjoyed the book and I always knew I was going to like it. But I didn’t realise what an education it would be for someone like myself who’s been doing this, been in dissident politics for 24 years, who has had, you know, been at numerous meetings where people have talked about things such as revisionism, the Second World War, where there’s been multiple books on sale about the topics that are broached in this book, yet this book still brought new things to the table.

 

So I’m going to start by throwing it over to Dave. Dave is obviously the commander in chief over at Money Tree Publishing, and we always love having Dave on because he’s a very entertaining guy and he does his own show.

 

So basically, Dave, why don’t you plug your own show for a start and where we can find you? Tell us a bit about why the second edition was published, how you got the rights to doing the second edition, and a little bit about the author who sadly passed away. And then we’ll go around the group and we’ll give out our impressions.

 

Dave Gahary: Sure. Sure. Am I coming through loud and clear?

 

Mark Collett: As loud and as clear as a blackbird song in the morning. Absolutely perfect!

 

Dave Gahary: Lovely. We’ve got the mockingbirds down here in the Florida panhandle, and they sing throughout the day and night. So you could hear them at, you know, two, three in the morning, going wild. It’s lovely.

 

Yes, the book.

 

Now, when I was at American Free Press writing for them and the Barnes Review for about ten years, I remember hearing about the book when it first came out, and it just really struck a nerve with a lot of folks and struck a chord. And it was lauded. And I heard that. I had never read the first edition, but it was brought to my attention at a later date by Jim Rizzoli and Diane King, who, as you may be familiar with, they do the Hoaxbusters show over on our network Speak Free Radio, which you can access by going to speakfreeradio.com. And it’s a 24/7 Internet radio network.

 

And I guess it would probably make sense if it’s okay to read the quick note from the publisher that I put in there. Mark, if I could read that.

 

Mark Collett: Of course, my friend, you’ve got the floor, so please feel free to.

 

[06:02]

 

Dave Gahary: Thank you. It says:

 

“This book would not exist if not for the enthusiastic encouragement of Jim Rizzoli and Diane King, two true American patriots. Here’s the backstory after Jim heard a radio show with Benton Bradbury, and he’s the author, of course, on as a guest, Diane was able to get a hold of Ben’s contact information to set up an interview with Jim, which was done in January 2016. After the interview, Diane stayed in touch with Ben, and anytime a hurricane would sweep through the Jacksonville, Florida area, she would call to check on him. The last time she did, Ben informed her, probably in his characteristically matter of fact, no nonsense way, he had esophageal cancer and had about three months to live.”

 

“Seeking to preserve Benton Bradbury’s legacy after his unfortunate passing in 2019, and to give the book a larger audience, Jim and Diane suggested we contact Mister Bradbury’s family to speak with them about the future of the book. They were enthusiastic to keep the book in print, and this second edition, with some corrections and amplifications, is the final result.”

 

“Thank you to the heirs of this book and to Jim and Diane for entrusting us with this task to keep this most important work alive. We hope it meets with your approval.”

 

 

“And that’s it.

 

Mark Collett: Superb.

 

So how did you go about putting together the second edition, then?

 

And I think this fits very well in your library because obviously, we’ve had you on here before. We reviewed Hell Storm, and that was a, I mean, the package you put together for Hellstorm was some interesting, truly special.

 

I think it was one of the first book reviews we did with you, and that package was incredible! Because you guys really, really went out there with not only the fantastic printed edition, but also with the audiobooks and the documentary as well. I think this fits in well with the rest of your library.

 

Dave Gahary: Yes, absolutely! And we’re not going to be adding too many more parts to the library, for the simple reason that we just wanted to focus on what we consider to be the best examples of the particular topics that are being addressed.

 

So this book took, as most books take, a long time to copy edit. And Ben was a former US Navy pilot. He had served in the military for, I think about 30 years. It’s in the actual, About the Author.

 

Let me just quickly get that. Yeah. So he served from 55 to 77. Yeah, 32 years. I’m sorry, I can’t even add! 22 years in the US Navy. And he was born in 1937.

 

Of course, as I said, he passed in 2019.

 

So Ben wasn’t an historian. He was somebody who had visited Germany and was perturbed about what he witnessed up close and personal with the beautiful German people and what the poisonous media was spewing about the beautiful German people and their wonderful history.

 

And so that’s what spurred him on to write a book about this.

 

[10:13]

 

And as you mentioned in the intro, sadly, he has passed. And I, of course, am quite saddened by that because I know we would have hit it off, both being navy guys and both having an interest in this topic. So Ben, again, I wish I would have known the actual steps he went through, but he went through a process of reading a lot of books, as you could see in the bibliography. And he put together a manuscript and self published the book. And it was through another company that self published it wasn’t like money tree or even more traditional publishers. It was a publisher that said:

 

“Well, just give us your manuscript, and we’ll just make it into a book.”

 

So when I dig into a manuscript, or a book, I dig in like a copy editor and a proofreader. So I look at not just every page or every paragraph, every sentence or every word, but every character. And it takes quite a bit of time. Some would say that “analysis is paralysis”, but I can’t do it any other way. Just like if I’m reading a book, I always have a highlighter with me because I instinctively highlight stuff that I’m interested in or highlight errors. And then later, many times contact the author or the publisher and let them know, which they’re very much appreciative of.

 

So I was born with this attention to detail, and I put that to work in Ben’s book, The Myth of German Villainy, the first edition.

 

I think, because, you know, Ben wasn’t trained as an historian, or a writer there were some things that slipped through, some facts that weren’t facts, some quotes that were spurious, some material that needed, as I mentioned earlier, some amplification.

 

And so I went through the entire manuscript along those lines. And the structure of what he wrote is there. That’s not changed. But the errors, maybe the wrong dates or the wrong names, the wrong facts, they’ve all been removed. And some parts of the book that I felt needed to be expanded upon were expanded upon. And photographs and images were added. Whereas the first edition had just black and white photos, some of them not very clear. This edition has a lot of colour photos, and when the actual photo itself or image itself was not in colour, black and white.

 

Amazingly, and of course, I never would have thought it would have turned out this way. But the first edition and the second edition are almost the exact same number of pages! And for all the work that was done on it, that was surprising to me when I discovered that at the end.

 

But this has 171 images. So we offer, let me see if that’s offered in this book. It is.

 

So this book is offered in black and white and colour. And the black and white version has 171 black and white images. And the colour version, out of those 171 images, 123 are black and white, and 48 are a colour.

 

[14:21]

 

So I was very happy with how it turned out. It’s a project like this that goes on for three years. It’s kind of like birthing something, and you really don’t know until the end, at least I don’t, how it’s going to turn out. But I was very happy with the way that it turned out. And I’ve heard from a lot of folks stuff similar to what you said, Mark, that they knew a lot about this topic, but they learnt a lot from reading the book.

 

Mark Collett: Fantastic! Thank you, my friend.

 

Well, let’s go around the group.

 

We’ll start with you, Natty. Obviously, you’ve been here with the book club since the very beginning. What did you think of this book? Did you enjoy it? Give a bit of an overview, please.

 

Natty: Well, like you, in fact, I was looking at Hellstorm as you were giving your preface to the stream here. And this is a topic we do seem to cover a lot, but it’s evergreen, and there’s so much that feeds into us, and there’s a lot of stuff that’s going on in the world at the moment that makes this relevant.

 

And I would argue that World War One and then the lead into World War Two and everything that’s happened since the Second World War is one of the most pivotal moments in the civilisation of Europe and probably the world. And I know it’s easy to say that given that we’re living in a time that is controlled and has echoes of the decisions made then and the events that happen then, because we’re living through it now, but it really does feel monumental.

 

And the Second World War and the lead up to it and the aftermath of it, the immediate aftermath of it, without understanding it, you simply cannot have any logical or coherent narrative of the way the world is today. So revisiting this period in history, to me, is always interesting. And I echo what you said, and I’ve got it in my notes. There’s things in here that I didn’t know. And I’m less well read on this subject than you, to be honest, Mark.

 

But even then, it was a pleasure. Might be the wrong word, but it was a pleasure to read just for that simple reason.

 

Before we get into the heavy stuff, and I know we do this a lot on book club, and we’ve been chastised for it before, but the cover is just so fantastic! Because, …

 

[17:02]

 

Mark Collett: You know what, mate? I’m going to cut across you there. Not only is the cover fantastic, but it has loads of pictures in. And this book, it really commands your attention.

 

And I’m not saying that everything should be a picture book, but that cover made me want to read it. And what kept me going through a lot of it was when I was seeing actual illustrative proof of everything that the book was stating.

 

Natty: Yes, it makes it a much easier read.

 

And in fact, the cover which you can see in the thumbnail to the video, has this kind of long nosed, like, big chinned, be-monicled Nazi officer on it, right? And he’s standing in front of the famous train tracks that lead to Auschwitz.

 

And recently me and my fiance have taken, well, not her so much, me have taken great pleasure in watching films about the Nazis in the Second World War. You know, most of its trash. Some of its slightly more high class, like The Boy in the Striped Pajamas. Schindler’s List is obviously, is the most famous one, but there are tropes [chuckling] that come up in these films over and over again! And you could drink yourself silly playing drinking games, you know, jews raking the sand, barking dogs, Nazi officers screaming about:

 

“Show me your papers!”

 

You know, it’s the same thing in every film!

 

And as soon as I saw this, the cover for the book and this kind of be-monicled demonic old Nazi officer, I was like:

 

“Yeah, it’s very fitting.”

 

So I know there’s heavy stuff in here, but I thought I’d make a comment on that because I think it’s definitely relevant. And like you said, the pictures go along with everything that’s written here. Makes it very easy to get through.

 

Mark Collett: It certainly does.

 

Well, now we’re going to introduce Bill. Sadly tonight it’s Bill’s last Book Club. I thought I’d mention this now. We were going to mention at the end, but now’s as good a time as any. Bill is basically simply just doesn’t have time to do this anymore. And we’ve really enjoyed Bill’s input, and if everyone would like to say a big thank you to him, that would be wonderful!

 

But, Bill, this is your last Book Club. But what a Book Club to go out on, my friend. First, I’d like to thank you for all your hard work, and it has been a pleasure working with you over the years on this particular project. But what did you think of this book? And do you want to give a bit of an overview like Natty did?

 

[19:27]

 

Bill Atheling: Well, thank you, Mark, for your kind words. Yes, this book, when I read through it the last few weeks, it reminded me of my own period going through the so-called “red pill”, because mine feel like I come from – my sins – from an academic background and teaching. And I began close on to 20 years ago, starting to look at and ask questions effectively, and I became interested in different aspects of this particular period. I’d really like to echo what Natty, yourself said, Mark.

 

That period in time is the crux upon which the hammer of the future was hammered out. So it’s absolutely important! And I think for anybody who’s listening who’s not particularly interested or enamored with historical introspection, well, this is a good place to start to actually wake you up a little bit about it.

 

The thing about this period, of course, is that it’s the time when truth really died! And a complete revision, if you want to use that word, is made of historical facts and occurrences. What this book does, of course, is it lays it out in a very clear, concise, readable, accessible way. It’s not written in highfalutin academic style. It’s not written in a low brow style. It’s written in a way that you can read it, you can enjoy it, and you can engage with it presents a lot of facts, a lot of facts which have been erased or are pushed under the carpet.

 

So, yeah, it’s a very impressive piece of work. I agree about the aesthetics of it. The cover is very nice. I love the fact there were photographs and illustrations throughout, backing up everything that was being discussed as well. Very impressive piece of work! Yeah, that’s my initial summary, at least.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you, Bill. We’ve got Sally in tonight. I don’t know whether Sally can hear us. She’s been having computer problems. This will definitely be sorted for next time because she’s got a new computer, but she haven’t had time to set it up. So, Sally, if you can hear us, obviously, if you can’t, we’ll just continue on without you.

 

But if you can hear us, give us a brief overview of what you thought of the book.

 

Aunt Sally: Well, I can hear you, so please just say yes or no.

 

Mark Collett: We can hear you now. But yeah.

 

Aunt Sally: Can you hear me?

 

Mark Collett: Just about, yeah. There’s a little bit of a delay, I think.

 

Aunt Sally: Just quickly, in case I have to leave. Because of [words unclear] this is one of those books that’s up there with the greats that we’ve had. It’s a book I wish I’d had in my childhood in the sixties, because much of what I was being told didn’t make sense. It just didn’t make sense even to a child. You just didn’t ask. You didn’t ask because of everyone was war weary. My parents were war weary, even though my mum was a child during the war, but my dad just about got [words unclear]. Yeah, it’s one of the great books. I read it again with my mouth wide open at some of the things I didn’t [word unclear]. It’s a fantastic book and every boomer should read it, really. They should read it. Yeah, that’s it for now.

 

[23:22]

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you, Sally. I think it’s a really, really good book.

 

And one thing I want to say about this, and this is where I’m going to kick things off, I think this is important when you see, and I do like the cover I do like the cover. I think the cover is a good cover and we have bashed bad covers. But the cover gives kind of this misconception about the book, that it’s all going to be based around World War Two.

 

Now, the first thing I want to say about this book is its not all about World War Two. This actually goes into a huge amount of detail about other topics, about World War One and sort of the origins of these anti-German myths. And some of the information within it, as I said, is stuff that I didn’t actually know.

 

And I’ll read something from the beginning of chapter three, because this really jumped out to me. I’ve actually got the book here in my hands and I’m just flying through this.

 

So this isn’t all just about National Socialist Germany. It isn’t all about the Second World War. It isn’t just sort of a rehashing of Germans did bad things and rounded up jews. There’s a lot of things here that I didn’t know and that give a greater context. Because obviously I know quite a bit about the Second World War. I know a little bit about the First World War, but I didn’t know this. And I’m reading directly from the book, and I quote:

 

“On December 12, 1916, two and a half years into the war, Germany made a peace offer to the Allies to end the war on a status quo ante basis. That is, no one wins and no one loses, no one pays reparations. Everyone just stops fighting and goes back home.”

 

“Germany had never wanted war in the first place. By that time, in the course of the war, Germany seemed on the verge of victory. Her submarine force had effectively stopped the supply convoys coming from America to Britain, creating critical shortages of all war material in Britain. France had already lost some 600,000 men in the battles of Verdun and the Somme, and the French soldiers were beginning to mutiny. The Italian army had collapsed completely, and Russian soldiers were deserting in droves and returning home. Germany appeared to be winning on both fronts, but the slaughter had been too great, and the British and French were unwilling to stop fighting short of victory.”

 

“The only way to justify the carnage and horrific loss of life was to fight on until victory could be obtained.”

 

“Moreover, as explained in the previous chapter, Britain had entered the war to destroy Germany as an industrial and commercial rival, and that remained her goal. British leaders were determined to find a way to break the stalemate and win the war. And they knew one sure-fire way of doing so was to bring America in on their side. A relentless effort was already underway to bring that about, but so far without success.”

 

[26:30]

 

And this goes into basically the jewish role in the First World War, which is very, very interesting indeed! But I didn’t know that when Germany were on top in the First World War that they had actually said:

 

“Look, we can win this, but there’s a huge loss of life here and we want peace, and we don’t want any more of our young men being slaughtered.”

 

And that, to me, was this sort of nugget of information that completely changed my perspective on the First World War and I’m sure would change the perspectives of many other people. And I hope those listening tonight will hear stuff like this and be like:

 

“Wow! That’s really interesting!”

 

Because I said I didn’t know that. And that’s something I drew from the book.

 

Now I’m going to throw this over to Dave first, and we’ll go around the group and talk about this. But Dave, when you put this together, have you had any similar feedback to that? Because this is a lot more of a broad topic than the usual sort of post Second World War, you know, revisionary material, which is all based around, really a couple of the larger concentration camps and based on whether they were actually concentration camps or death camps, and then disputing figures based on facts.

 

But this is a lot deeper than that, isn’t it?

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah, it is. And let me say that I too, of course, learnt tons from this book.

 

So it’s not like I went in and knew it all and said:

 

“Oh, let me find the errors and the misspellings and fix them all and make it better!”

 

No, I learnt a lot as well, and that was one of the parts that I really was not strong on, and I’m still not strong on it. I’m not, like you said, I’m not someone who knows everything about one topic. It’s virtually impossible to know that. But we can learn as much as we can, of course.

 

So, yeah, that was an important part of understanding the whole story about, or what we think might be the whole story about how Germany felt, the government of Germany felt at that time and what was happening, how they did appear to be on top.

 

And of course, that’s where the whole “stab in the back” comes in. Because how could it be that the Germans lost when they were winning on all fronts? Until, of course, the machinations that were occurring behind the scenes with that wildcard of what I call “organised international jewry”.

 

[29:16]

 

Mark Collett: Thank you.

 

Now, throwing this over to Bill. Bill is a very modest man, and he’s actually had a very high profile academic past. He’s a man who is very well read, and he’s a man who certainly knows his stuff. I’m going to throw this over to you, Bill. This book was Illuminating to me, and I’m not for one minute going to suggest I am as well read as you are.

 

But was there anything amongst this that sort of stood out and taught you something? And what did you think of the structure of the book? Because I think there is a misconception about these books, that they are just going to be sort of going over the well trodden ground.

 

And as I said this, for me, a lot of it was absolutely new ground. That was fascinating!

 

Bill Atheling: Yes, absolutely!

 

And I think the way that the book builds up to the main thesis, the discussion at its centre, is by, as you say, laying the groundwork and touching upon areas which are outside of the central part of the 20th century, the late 1930s, 20th century build-up, and absolutely pertinently relate to that culmination that occurred.

 

It’s a bizarre thing, you know, that you mentioned there about, and Dave mentions about the Germans were on the top of their game at certain points. And actually, both times, both the First and Second World War, Hitler did the same thing when he conquered France. He turned back to Britain and said:

 

“Look, I don’t want a war on this front. This isn’t what I’m about.”

 

Offered generous peace terms, even proposed defending the British Empire, and, you know, he was spurned.

 

So these are things which, when I first encountered them, I thought:

 

“Well, you know, this can’t be right.”

 

And when you start looking at the actual facts of it, it’s there in black and white. It’s there and it’s evidence. You know, I refer to someone like David Irving, who’s someone who have read quite, quite deeply. And he did this, you know, “heinous” thing amongst historians. Instead of going to other historians and quoting and referring to what they were saying, he actually went and looked at source documents and looked at the facts of the original from the period and presented those things. And it tells, it paints a completely different picture.

 

So I think that’s one of the significant things about this book and some of the books that are out there. But why this book particularly should be widely read, because it lays those grounds, those facts out.

 

And as I said earlier, these are some of the things which, when I first began to be reckoned were really important to me, was if there’s a fiction that’s being perpetuated here and that’s being blown out of the water, as is evidenced by this information, what else am I being told that isn’t true?

 

So it begins the whole process, and it’s like a flower opening and you see all the petals. Yeah. So just again, I mean, I don’t think there was anything specifically in this book that I thought:

 

“Oh, I didn’t know that!”

 

Only because I’ve had my nose in this topic for such a long time. But this book brings it all together in a very succinct and clear and concise way and presents it in a structured and deliberate ladder of information that you can follow to reach some kind of understanding of the events and truth.

 

[33:01]

 

 

Mark Collett: Thank you. Sally, if you’re still with us and you’re still able to hear us, you summed it up perfectly earlier, saying, if every boomer read this, it would have sort of changed the world. How much of this was new to you?

 

Aunt Sally: How much of it was new to me? Yeah, I’m here. A lot of [word unclear] was the propaganda that the war generation grew up. Sunday afternoon, there’d be a film on TV, a black and white film. And it was all about the concentration camps and the war and how noble the British were and how evil the Germans were. [words unclear] That’s actually what I would call the book, it’s the other side. The book is the title, because I wouldn’t buy that book if I saw it in the shop. [words unclear] It is the other side of the story, not just the other side to it. It’s why it happened, how things happened, and also the propaganda and deceit, which those [words unclear] what it was and what was going on. Although there were clues, and I would ask questions that they [words unclear] even by my own parents, because they needed to believe the lie, because they suffered.

 

So everybody was invested in perpetuating the myth of lies. They wanted to perpetuate that. So as a child, you were silenced. I hope you heard all that?

 

Mark Collett: We did. We did. Natty, again, you’re somebody who’s very well read. How much of this was sort of new to you? And which bits did you feel were the most Illuminating? Because for me, as I said, it was the sort of First World War was the bits which I didn’t really have full knowledge of, …

 

Natty: Yeah, well, the First World War, again, is this like massive conflagration, that had world changing impacts in the aftermath of it.

 

But again, it pales, given what happened in the Second World War, it’s become less important, especially given the direction of Western countries, Europe, the United States, Australia, South Africa. So less is said about it. But given what actually happened and the aftermath of the First World War, it’s certainly something that when you start saying to people:

 

“Well, if you really want to understand the modern world, you need to look at the Second World War.”

 

And for people in the know, they’ll say:

 

“Well, it’s earlier than that you know, it’s the First World War.”

 

And then, you know, someone will come along and say:

 

“No, no, no! It started with “X”, the expulsion of these people from this, …”

 

Yeah, whatever.

 

[36:29]

 

But the First World War certainly is pivotal. I’m going to read a part of the book here. That talks about the aftermath of the First World War. And Benton says this:

 

“The generalised belief was replaced by a feeling of pessimism and cynicism. There was a feeling that Europe had been profoundly and permanently damaged, a feeling that turned out to be highly pertinent. In retrospect, ancient empires, the Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman, Russian, and German, crumbled as a result of the war.”

 

And I’ll just add, myself, that I think the British Empire suffered because of the First World War:

 

“These empires had been a source of political and social stability, and now chaos reigned throughout Europe. The Paris Peace Conference, after the war, did a very imperfect job of putting it back together again.”

 

“It is clear from the perspective of today that World War One precipitated an irreversible decline in Western civilisation.”

 

So these great empires and great nations of Europe and the control of parts of the world were stable.

 

And then all of a sudden, this kind of mass hysteria, mass propaganda, happens, and we end up killing each other in the millions on what’s known as an industrial scale slaughter, artillery shells and machine guns and gas and all the rest of it. And in the wake of that, the continent is devastated! And what follows from it is all these social changes and all this chaos.

 

I mean, there’s a chapter in here about the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, which is a story into itself. But all of this leads into the Second World War, which probably cements the changes that were on the cards during the First World War. And obviously, this book goes into post Second World War, which is also covered in Hellstorm.

 

And, I mean, there are other books that cover other areas of, you know, expand on things that are chaptered in this book. Like I said, the Bolshevik Revolution. You could read the Gulag Archipelago, maybe, for that. Hellstorm covers the retreat of the Germans from Russia in the east and what happened to the Germans after the war in a little bit more detail. And a lot of, like Bill said, David Irving covers a lot of Hitler and what the Nazi high command was doing at the time.

 

But this book is fantastic! It gives a great overview of things that led up to the First World War all the way through and things that were happening and decisions that were being made that fed into everything that resulted from that conflict.

 

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Mark Collett: Now, looking over this book and having enjoyed it so much, I think the book essentially stitches together a lot of pieces of history, because people often talk about the First World War, the Second World War, but this stitches it all together and also includes information about the Russian Revolution, the Red Terror, the founding or the beginning of the founding of the state of Israel, as well. It covers information about the Balfour Declaration.

 

Now, when I was looking through this and we touched on this earlier, I really, really enjoyed the pictures. And I really, really enjoyed the sort of these annotated. Well, there’s just so many sort of, so many pictures, drawings, pieces of propaganda.

 

And you can see when you look over this book that it draws all these different pieces together, and it allows the reader to see this not as a series of sort of isolated one offs, but as a concerted effort to demonise the German people, and specifically to also demonise nationalism. So Germans became the sort of avatars of, you know, nationalists in Europe, and they were demonised for that to a great degree.

 

And I think people have, you know, seen snippets of this. But to see it all pulled together in one place and to see the people behind it and to see those people named, and often to see pictures of those people sat together, because it’s very easy to give people lists of names. And if you’re new to this, to just be given a list of names of people who are involved is one thing, but to be given an image showing all those people sitting together at a conference arranging these very things, I think, is also incredibly important!

 

And then to juxtapose the information that we’ve been fed about German villainy and place it next to a genuine information about the Red Terror, about the Gulags, I think that places a lot of things in context as well. And this book does a brilliant job of placing everything that people may have been taught or may have heard as separate individual pieces and putting them into a larger context.

 

Now, obviously, when you were editing this, Dave, and putting this together, was that your intention, to bring all this into one place, contextualise it, and ensure that people saw this bigger picture?

 

Dave Gahary: No, I went into the project not knowing what to expect.

 

And like I said, it took about three years. I was interrupted by, of course, my hospitalisation from what is known as Covid for four months. But I jumped right back in it after I addressed another book that we had put out that I had begun before the hospitalisation. But no, I went into it without knowing what to expect. And it just evolved the way that it did.

 

Of course, a lot of time was spent on selecting these photographs and finding the ones that I thought might best represent the text on that particular page. So many hours are spent going through photographs. And Ben did have a lot of photographs of Hitler with children and all of his adoring fans to show how the Germans thought about him.

 

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Of course, we’re pretty much all familiar with that, and it’s a fantastic thing to look at. But I didn’t want to place an inordinate number of those type of photos in there. I just wanted to, as you all have mentioned, select photographs that were applicable to what was being discussed and perhaps some that we might not be that familiar with.

 

Mark Collett: Bill, obviously people talk about the Second World War as being a critical turning point in the history of Europe, and that’s something we all know. And I often say, I mean, I was at the Awakening Conference in Finland this weekend, and when we talk to anyone about modern Britain and about what is known as liberal democracy, that is something that has essentially grown post Second World War. We look back and we say the Second World War cemented all this, and in many ways it did.

 

But I think this book puts into context that the plans for this liberal democracy and the sort of taking away of the power of indigenous Europeans, those wheels were set in motion a long, long time before the Second World War even broke out. And this book really placed that in context for me. How would you approach that?

 

Bill Atheling: Yeah. Yes, I agree. Does that sound better now? I’m not clicking or making strange noises.

 

Mark Collett: No, no, the clicking is gone.

 

Bill Atheling: Yeah. It’s just because I’m an old bugger. Okay. That’s what it is. And I had the cable wrapped around my headphone.

 

You’re absolutely right, Mark. It’s so important that these things are laid out as, rather than being event X happened at this date, event Y happened at this date, and event Z happened at this date. It demonstrates the kind of interlinked and the causality of different events and how they culminated in certain events. And that’s what this book is very good at painting, that picture. But there’s something else, which I think is why it succeeds so well in terms of presenting that kind of mosaic of information. It’s the tone of the writer, and I’m sure Dave had a hand in that, in terms of developing the way that texts work together.

 

But, you know, he says things about, for example, when he talks about communism, for example, he says:

 

“The obvious flaw in communist ideology was that it defied human nature, moreover, it defied common sense.”

 

You know, he says these things in very clear, very concise and demonstrably true manner.

 

And then in the chapter, when he’s talking about Nuremberg, he concludes about the way that the trial was prosecuted:

 

“If these standards had been applied at Nuremberg, all sides would have been guilty of war crimes.”

 

Very straightforward, simple sentence, and underlines everything that’s come before. So he has this ability to say things in a very clear, direct, straightforward way.

 

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And I think that’s one of the most attractive things about this book, is the prose of the writer himself. I did mention this earlier, but this idea that it is presented in a way which is immediately digestible. And these facts are kind of woven together so that we don’t just see the picking over the carcass of a particular event at a particular specific time, but rather the kind of tsunami that rolled into town in the early 20th century and whose fatal flooding has continued to affect our civilisation ever since.

 

Mark Collett: Sally, how does this place things into context for you? Because, I mean, you and I have known each other for some time now, and it’s one of those things where you do believe that the Second World War was this pivotal moment.

 

But I don’t think people really realise how long these changes were building and how long this plan stretched back even before the First World War.

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah, really, the book was a revelation for me. We grew up with so much of it and how righteous we were and how wicked the Germans were. And I felt so guilty already just reading the book. Like when I was a child you looked down your noses on them and you very rarely saw any. But I just so happened to have a [word unclear] as a child, and she was a wicked cow! Real wicked cow! And now I understand why. Yeah, we look down on noses at them, even as early twenties, and if you met a German kraut, we called them “krauts”. And, yeah, I feel guilty. Guilty [word unclear] because I’ve been so deceived. I’ve bought into everything that I’m taught and grown up with, and the book, [words unclear] it’s a fantastic book!

 

When I read these books for the book club and I write down any questions I have or something to make sense, but when I did write down [words unclear] and the question within two or three, it answers everything that you ever wanted to know. If I just answered your question mark. But the yeah, the book is a revelation. Other people, other boomers should read it. Well if you could convince someone to read it, but then the title would put a lot of the boomers off. It is such a such a good book. I’m still flabbergasted by it!

 

And I read it a couple of months ago. It really is. And, yeah, I’ll pass now.

 

Mark Collett: Natty, what’s your thoughts about the way this pulls everything together? And then we’re going to move on to a slightly different topic that I think is very important.

 

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Natty: Yeah, it’s a well presented narrative.

 

I mean, I’m happy to move on. You guys have covered everything that’s you’ve said about the way this book’s presented.

 

I will say this. It’s one thing to hear about propaganda against Germans in the First World War and the early in the outbreak of the Second World War and the times in between. And propaganda today looks a bit different and is more sophisticated.

 

But there are pictures in here of and they’re drawings. They’re not photographs, obviously, this is back in the First World War, where photographs would have been prohibitively expensive. But pictures of German soldiers bayoneting babies or crucifying allied soldiers to trees in the First World War, or dragging women off when they’re marching through Belgium to whip up this frenzy of hate against German people. Whereas that just hadn’t existed before on the outbreak of the First World War.

 

It’s almost like a switch is flipped, and all of this stuff gets produced, and all of a sudden, without any., … You know, you’ve got to remember this is a time without Internet. No counter narrative was available. All of a sudden, people., … And, it’s hard to know how suckered in by this people were or how much control there was and whether people were resistant to this or not. I’m sure a lot of people would have been, but simply there was no voice for that kind of dissent. Although maybe I’m wrong about that. And you could look into archives and newspaper cuttings and find journalists and newspapers who were sceptical of these claims of the evil of Germany. But just all prevailing, all pervasive and totally.

 

I don’t know, it’s crazy to think about how effective but crude that propaganda was and how different it is to propaganda from today. But I’m happy to move on. And I know I haven’t really answered your question, but to see it in the illustrations in this book is something else, really impressive.

 

Mark Collett: Well, you’ve kind of taken me on to the topic I wanted to speak about next, because we’re coming up to the hour and we’ve got some Superchats. If people do want a Superchat, please do consider sending a small donation. If you want to say something about the book or ask any questions to the panel.

 

But I will say this, reading this book in the current context of the modern geopolitical struggles going on in this very moment was very, very interesting. And it was very, very interesting because at the moment, there are two conflicts. There is the conflict in the Ukraine, and there is the conflict in occupied Palestine.

 

And as you flick through this book, you see some, well, images and words and phrases and propaganda that alludes to a certain picture of Germans, and the Germans were obviously the enemies at this time.

 

So you see pictures of Germans pretending to be normal soldiers as they stand over the bodies of women that they’ve just mutilated. You see pictures of German nurses who apparently would rather pour water on the floor than give it to a wounded allied soldier. There are pictures of Germans bayoneting children or walking or marching with children impaled on their bayonets. There are pictures of Germans crucifying allied soldiers or dragging away girls set to the background of villages or towns on fire.

 

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So the Germans are all always portrayed as these murderous brutes who not only are almost sort of like Orcish, if you were to put it into sort of a the writings of Tolkien, these are sort of Orcs, and Orcs in Tolkien’s writings are absolutely inhuman! You know, they don’t think like us. They’re not like us, and they should never be treated like us. They’re a different breed, a different creature. And that’s what Germans were sort of written up like.

 

But if you take all of that and you look at the propaganda surrounding both the conflict in the Ukraine and the conflict in occupied Palestine, it’s almost amazing, because, you know, from the First World War, we’re now over 100 years on from the end of that war. But the propaganda used to make Britons and the other allied nations hate the Germans is almost identical to the propaganda we see today around the war in the Ukraine and Israel’s wholesale genocide of the Palestinian people, which is incredible!

 

So you hear today about Palestinians butchering babies, you know, roasting them in ovens, and every day, the number of babies that were apparently either beheaded or carried off, you know, grows. But that’s exactly what the same people were saying about the Germans.

 

Natty: And we’re supposed to believe that Russian soldiers today, who are fighting on the front lines in Ukraine, if given the opportunity, would storm across Europe and kill us all in our beds and subjugate us to the most terrible tyranny and also believe that Palestinians hate us for some ridiculous reasons that were never solidified.

 

And like I said, sometimes the propaganda is crude, and sometimes it’s sophisticated. But you see this whole network of today, these supposedly Right-wing influencers and stuff like this, trying to reinforce these narratives as in some cases, more heavily favouring Israel, and in some cases, on the Left or progressive side, more favouring the Ukrainians [Palestinians].

 

But in both cases, we’re supposed to believe that people who have nothing to do with us and don’t know us from Adam, are kind of eternal enemies and are ontologically evil and would do terrible things to us, given the opportunity. And it’s simply not true! And it wasn’t true of the Germans, either.

 

But it’s the same propaganda machine, the same people telling us these things, and it’s ridiculous! As soon as you start to scratch beneath the surface and look at the realities of conflict and land and control and governments and policies, it’s just absurd on its face. Palestinians don’t hate me. Why would they? They probably hate my government. Russians don’t hate me and don’t want to take over my country. They’re engaged in a kind of empire expansion, or a quest to take back natural resources.

 

These are questions that are answerable, and there’s questions, and there’s policies like that that revolve around the First World War and the Second World War. But to expand it into people being evil enough to do something that is kind of almost religiously bad, is just insane! And it’s insane to anyone who’s capable of making their brain cells fire more than you need just to watch the new Netflix, you know, series or whatever.

 

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Bill Atheling: You’re right, Natty. And, it’s absolutely what you’ve said there is spot on! It’s an absolute case of “Plus Les choses changent, plus elles restent Les mêmes”. The more things change, the more they stay the same. And there is that historical echo. The same fallacies are trotted out, and the same number of people believe them, unfortunately. These things are., …

 

There’s an example of the power of this propaganda is, if I can just deviate very slightly, but there’s a Welshman, a writer called Arthur Machen*, who wrote a story called The Bowman, in 1914. And it’s a fictional story about how, during an attack at Mons, Agincourt bowman arrive and shoots spectral arrows into the air and stops the German advance and so on.

 

[* Arthur Machen (3 March 1863 – 15 December 1947) was the pen-name of Arthur Llewellyn Jones, a Welsh author and mystic of the 1890s and early 20th century. He is best known for his influential supernatural, fantasy, and horror fiction. His novella The Great God Pan (1890; 1894) has Garnered a reputation as a classic of horror, with Stephen King describing it as “Maybe the best [horror story] in the English language.” [2] He is also well known for “The Bowmen”, a short story that was widely read as fact, creating the legend of the Angels of Mons. Source: Wikipedia]

 

And people believed this story, that it was published in the press, and it was published as a piece of fiction, but people implicitly believed it.

 

And in fact, Machen would receive letters saying:

 

“What was your source? What happened? How did you find this information?”

 

He got a letter from a clergyman about this, and he had to say to the clergyman:

 

“Well, no, it’s a piece of fiction.”

 

And to the point where the clergyman wrote back to him and said:

 

“No, you’re mistaken. It’s real. It must be real! What’s your source?”

 

So this is the problem you have with propaganda.

 

Mark Collett: Does Dave, or well, Sally’s not commented yet. Sally, would you like to say anything about this? Because I’m going to ask Dave a few questions in a second. Sally, what are your thoughts on this?

 

Aunt Sally: About?

 

Mark Collett: Yes, about propaganda.

 

Aunt Sally: Well, as far as propaganda is concerned, I think I realised that what the telly told you was a lie, and I cancelled my TV licence and actually haven’t watched TV since. And I stopped consuming mainstream [word unclear] or buying and reading their news. Sometimes I keep an eye on what’s going on, or what they are, but I know now, and I’ve known for a few years, and probably that’s the difference, that are still people believing it.

 

Yet the power of propaganda is, it’s deceit, isn’t it? It’s just all about deceiving you into going with what they want you to believe. And the war generations they were invested in it. And that they invested their lives, [words unclear]. Would have been awful for them to realise the truth! It really would. So they had to invest in the propaganda, and [words unclear] Russians, and it was a righteous war, and the Germans are evil. They needed that. Otherwise, if they realised what they’d really done., … And they’re all dead now, aren’t they? It goes to the next generations, if they ever find out.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you. Dave?

 

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Dave Gahary: Yes.

 

Mark Collett: I mean, obviously, you do your own show and you publish many books. Do you think this book, at this point in history, is something that carries a more pressing message because of this? I mean, I think we were discussing this briefly before the show and whether we were going to go into this.

 

And obviously we have got here, and I was thinking about it as we were talking about generally what the book was about.

 

But I do think the issues in this book today are as relevant as they ever were. And how do you view this? Because, I mean, ultimately, they’ve been telling exactly the same lies now for almost a century. Well, for over a century.

 

Dave Gahary: Right. Yes. And that actually is., … Well, before I say that, just let me say that I’m floored by all of your comments about how much you love the book, because, as I mentioned, I poured a lot of work into it, and it’s great to hear that, especially from this group, that you all loved it! So thank you. Means a lot to me.

 

And Tom Goodrich of Hellstorm, he wrote the foreword. As you know, I wanted to mention that earlier, and the cover was done by a close colleague of mine, Paul Angel from the Barnes Review, an American Free Press, we have worked together for going on about 20 years, and he’s a terrific guy. And it took us a while to come up with this cover. It was one of those covers that we really weren’t quite sure about which direction we would go in. And this was what we settled on, and I think it came out very well.

 

But as far as this topic and how it relates to today and what you and I, Mark, had touched upon briefly was that with all of the stuff happening since we first talked about doing this book review, it’s almost like the discussion of a book like this, a historical book like this, would be viewed as something pedestrian or staid.

 

[1:05:34]

 

Maybe the main attraction that I have to history is what you had touched upon earlier is that everything’s the same. And the reason that everything’s the same, I think, is that people don’t change. One could read The Iliad and The Odysee, written thousands and thousands of years ago, and it’s almost as if you’re hearing about something that occurred in your life in the current day, because human nature doesn’t change!

 

And I think a book like this is very important, as are many other history books, because they reveal that what happened over 100 years ago, the people who were manipulating and deceiving with their propaganda are doing the same exact thing today at a different target.

 

So I think that if someone picks up this book and if it gives them just that, the understanding that there really is nothing new under the sun, that all of this was done before, not just in the 19th and, 200th century centuries, but thousands of years ago, because human nature doesn’t change.

 

So besides giving one the knowledge that I feel is necessary to understanding this particular topic, it also gives the reader the ability to get a greater grasp on human nature and how that stays constant throughout the ages. So, yes, I think that although we are confronted with currently much, much different challenges than you might read about in The Myth of German Villainy, they are all tied together and they can’t be separated.

 

In fact, it might be that someone gaining the knowledge of the propaganda and manipulation that took place during the First World War and the Second World War and continues to take place via the you know, there’s plenty of terms for the media, but, you know, one of one of my recent favourites is the “lying legacy media”. The lying legacy media, I think, is really the biggest culprit for the dumbing down and kept in the dark propaganda for the public. And that ties into people like us who are looking for answers outside of what the lying legacy media is spewing.

 

People like us are in the stark minority. You know, I refer to people like us as mutants because we are not afraid to entertain any thought or idea, whereas the masses, who can’t. If you told them that:

 

“I’ve been looking into the history of this and of World War Two, and I just I don’t think that Hitler was as bad of a guy as they tell us he is.”

 

You know, most people would recoil in horror because of how they’ve been programmed.

 

So these are the people. And I mean, like, 99.999% of humanity cannot entertain an original thought, an original idea. If it goes off course from what they’ve been programmed, they are going to have a violent reaction to it.

 

So I don’t think we can wait. And I’m going a little off topic here, but I think it ties into it.

 

But I don’t think we could wait for them to catch up to us. I think we just have to steam ahead and try to get the important information, like we’re talking about today, to as many open minds as possible.

 

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Natty: I just want to push back on that a little bit, Dave, because I think that after October 7 [2023, Hamas attacking the Israelis] and for Americans, maybe a little bit more so, the amount of money that’s being sent to Ukraine, I think that people are becoming more receptive to jewish power or jewish over representation and nepotism in a way that I haven’t seen before.

 

And I’m not sure. Maybe you’re going to tell me:

 

“No, this is a cycle. And people go back to, …”

 

Dave Gahary: No, I agree with you 100%. Absolutely! Yeah, 100%. As a matter of fact, I predicted what would happen in 2022. I thought it was going to happen in 2020, but then they rolled out that Covid thing.

 

But in 2022, I predicted that 2023 would be our best year and, 20024 would be even better than that. And the reason I did was because I saw things happening. And at the time I said that in 2022, none of my colleagues agreed with me, none saw it.

 

And I’m not saying that I’m some kind of a seer and that I have great, you know, predictive abilities, but I did see it. And it was obvious to me because of what was happening, how people were responding, the comments that were, in posts.

 

And I’m not an “anti-social media” guy or social media guy, which I call “anti-social media” because that’s what it is. I’m not a social media guy. But I did see a post that somebody brought to my attention on X. And it was this vampire like character from the ADL, Greenblatt, who, you know, had spewed some filth about Leo Frank and saying he was exonerated. And this was the first time I actually read comments on a post.

 

And this was last year, and the post was made in March of last year. And I read every comment. There were about two to 300. And there was only one that said:

 

“My God, I’m jewish! You have to tell these people off!”

 

Something like that. All the rest were saying:

 

“What are you talking about? You guys framed that black guy!”

 

And going on and on. When those sort of opinions are allowed in the public square, which they were and are now, it was very clear to me that there was a huge seismic shift in the understanding of organised international jewry and, of course, that imaginary jewish power. And we are in the middle of a great awakening that has never before happened!

 

And I remember I was talking about it on the show, I do that Mark mentioned with David Duke on Sunday nights, a call in show which allows anybody from anywhere to call in and talk to the good doctor. And I brought that up about this mass awakening.

 

[1:13:39]

 

And, of course, as I mentioned, nobody thought that that was happening, but now everybody sees that it’s happening.

 

And I said to David that:

 

“You must be feeling pretty good, because what you’ve been talking about for nearly six decades is finally people are seeing what’s going on.”

 

But I’ll temper that with saying that the people who are seeing what’s going on are the “mutants”.

 

So these are the ones who are already susceptible to accepting pretty much anything. It’s just that now it’s so obvious that they were like, wow, I can’t ignore this anymore. So I still think that those, the 99.999%, because we’re a very tiny number, our group of mutants, that 99.99% is still bubbled into their lying legacy media programming.

 

But I do think we are in a great awakening.

 

Natty: Sure. Yeah. I do agree with that, and there are a few things to watch out for. I know you say we’re a tiny amount of people, but we for the most part, have remained laser focused on this issue.

 

And I think it really does help. You know, if you could think about motes of dust surrounding us being pulled in and pulled into that laser as well. And there are a lot of distractions. You know, aliens are now apparently a thing, and the Illuminati and, you know whatever else, whatever else can be a distraction.

 

But I think for the most part, people like us in larger ways, like you and your publishing house, and sometimes in tiny, small ways, like us doing this podcast and this book review, and millions and millions, which is small in the grand scheme of things. People on places like Twitter and on social media sharing memes and ideas and talking and being dissidents, is forcing people who are trying to hold the tiller into swinging very slowly in this direction.

 

And to make another point, there are so many inroads into this now. Like I said, the liberal progressive people are suddenly finding out that Israel and the jewish power structure has carved out an exception to, if not genocide, ethnic cleansing at the very least. And they don’t like it. And now they have this inroad into:

 

“Well, why is there this exception?”

 

And they start asking questions like that. And it’s only going to lead to one place. And for the American Right, for the kind of the much lauded and shat upon boomers, their money, their tax money is being sent to Israel like never before, and the Ukraine, which for those people is a country on the other side of the world, but shouldn’t be receiving their money.

 

So all of these otherwise disparate groups are being forced to look into this issue and confront it and start asking questions if they have any desire to enact some sort of political change. Which I know is extremely hard, and we all know that here.

 

But I don’t think it’s not nothing. I’ll say that.

 

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Dave Gahary: No, no, it’s not. It’s something.

 

But I think we’re at a point now, and I’ve mentioned this several times on shows in private and publicly, that we can literally kick back a little bit because now the unhinged Left is doing our job for us. And we see that happening.

 

So it’s a great time to be alive because all of the stuff that we focused on, in our group, if I can call it that, is the most educated group out there, because again, it goes back to not being afraid to entertain any idea or thought. So we are interested in learning. We want to dig into things. And yes, there are a lot of distractions. Flat earth, aliens, the Illuminati, Hitler was a Rothschild, all that stuff.

 

One of the things that keeps me going is that I feel like I do have that. And I’ll borrow your term “laser focus” on what I’m trying to do. And I don’t let this stuff distract me. And I don’t., As Sally was saying, I don’t watch television. I haven’t watched it since 1991, when my first son was born. I have no interest in it. I have no interest in the jew’s media, or whatever you want to call it. I tangentially look at it, but I know what they’re going to say, of course.

 

So the good news is that media is dying! But you’ve got people like Joe Rogan and his ilk who refuse to, or are unaware of what is really happening, and they don’t go to that next step.

 

So I really think that people like us, it is an incredibly small, minuscule group, but it’s those small groups who have changed history.

 

I mean, I’ll use, you know what you all created, your ancestors created this nation here. And it was only about 8,000 Patriots with a capital “P” who were organising the rebellion against their British overlords. Because of what we mentioned earlier, taxation without representation, nothing has changed. They went against all the odds to defeat the greatest empire in history. So I’m certainly not saying that we cannot win. If I woke up every day and sat down at my desk and thought that I wouldn’t wake up, I just give up.

 

So I have high hopes. I think that in America, we’re taught that, or at least we were when I grew up – I was born in 1960 – that anybody could be the president.

 

Unfortunately, we’ve seen that happen. Anybody could do anything that they want to do. I’m a firm believer in that. I’ve experienced that. I’ve done things that I still can’t believe I’ve done them. I don’t think it was myself doing. I think I had help, but I think that we can do anything. And if we don’t think that way, we sell ourselves and those around us short!

 

And I think we should all believe that we can achieve victory.

 

And I believe that we can!

 

[1:21:20]

 

Mark Collett: Thank you. Some inspiring words there, Dave.

 

So this is the part of the show where I really want to throw it open to Bill, Sally and Natty. I’ve done a lot of speaking. Are there anything, is there anything in the book that you guys would like to particularly focus on or bring up or anything about the book that you think I’ve missed or maybe something in the book that was missed? So, Bill, is there anything you’d like to bring up?

 

Bill Atheling: Well, I don’t know whether it’s something that you might have missed, but there’s a particular quote in chapter 13, which is by an English Daily Express reporter, and it’s quite a lengthy quote. But it’s very interesting as an insight into how Germany was perceived in the thirties before things swung around.

 

So, for example, this is six months after Germany’s militarisation and the incursions of the Rhineland and a month after the Olympics. And he writes things like this:

 

“There is, for the first time since the war, a general sense of security.”

 

Speaking, obviously, about Germany:

 

“The people are more cheerful. There is a greater sense of general gaiety of spirits throughout the land. It is a happier Germany. I saw it everywhere. An Englishman I met during my trip and who knew Germany well, were very impressed with the changes.”

 

And he goes on to say:

 

“It impressed me more than anything I witnessed during my short visit to New Germany, a powerful revivalist atmosphere, an extraordinary effect in unifying the nation.”

 

And then he goes on to say about all the different types of Germans who have brought together, Bavarians and northerners and so on.

 

Natty: Wait, Bill, can you imagine anybody walking around England today and asking any Englishman and getting that impression? I don’t think so.

 

Bill Atheling: Absolutely! Absolutely! And there’s this sense that we have this lens that has been calcified in the years since 1945, and that was still fluid and it was still moving before that period. And but we still have documentation like this to look at and to access and say:

 

“Well, actually, there was this idea that there was this, you know, we’re showing all the television dramas and films and movies, and there’s the coming storm and all this kind of thing, and everybody’s gloomy, and everyone thinks that there’s a terrible evil rising in the east.”

 

And it’s just not the case. There isn’t this kind of Sauron like monster rising in the east. You know, people didn’t see it in that sense. This is a post-war painting. And just looking at things like that, just looking at that, just very simple series of quotes from that particular period really underlines that.

 

[1:24:16]

 

One of the things which when I was teaching, I used to say to students before lectures was “question received wisdom”. That sounds in some ways to be a negative thing. You say:

 

“Well, you don’t question tradition and so on.”

 

But actually, we were getting students, kids who had done A levels and so on.

 

Their minds had been so constricted and narrowed that all of a sudden I was saying to them:

 

“Well, actually, no, you can question this. You’re allowed to question this. There’s these narratives.”

 

And I would try and red pill them and show them things and talk about things, and to a degree, got across to them that, it’s okay to actually question these narratives that we’ve been fed because I mean, the classic one thing I said was:

 

“When we’re looking at history, we are allowed to question all kind of interpretations of was Henry VIII the good king? Was Henry the bad king? And so on. But there’s one period in history we’re not allowed to question, and why do you think that is?”

 

You know, so I just pose questions to them and leave them to think about, to cogitate a little bit on that. And that’s what this book does in the sense it kind of breaks through that calcification and allows that kind of marinade in information which wouldn’t normally be denied to them.

 

And I think coming back to what Dave and Natty were saying about the propaganda war and in terms of the shift, we have this thing, the Internet, and as constricted and as restricting as it has become, in some ways, we’re streaming on Odysee and not YouTube, for example.

 

At the same time, it’s a barrel with too many holes in it, and they can’t plug all the leaks.

 

And so I think what this book does is it provides buckshot to knock through some of those barrels and let some of the water out.

 

Mark Collett: Sally, is there anything about the book that you think I’ve missed or anything that you’d like to bring up?

 

Aunt Sally: Right. My dog might bark because there’s a fox outside.

 

There is. I mean, for me, the thing, I just keep thinking about mine [words unclear] and I think I’ve covered it already. I don’t want to repeat myself, but we weren’t taught about the war. We were given films on [words unclear] no one talked. The parents didn’t talk about it. The school didn’t talk about it. And I grew up why the war happened? And I used to ask my father:

 

“Did you go to war to save jews?”

 

That’s what I thought they went to. He didn’t really answer me, but I presumed it. So I thought it was about saving the jews. I had no idea, even till.

 

And this book, it’s just all there and I can’t recommend it enough. It’s such an eye opener. It explains every little thing. I wish I’d had it, you know, when I was a child. It would have. [words unclear] Yeah, well, I’ve just written down, we were brought up in total ignorance, that generation. And to go forth, and my father used to say:

 

“Go! We had to suffer. Enjoy it. Enjoy your life!”

 

And I think that was the case for all the boomers:

 

“Go forth, because we never had any [words unclear] go forth and enjoy the world.”

 

Because our parents and our grandparents, … So that’s me making excuses for the boomers, although I know that they’re kind of irredeemable, but they don’t know what I know. Yeah, I’ll stop now, Mark.

 

[1:28:45]

 

Bill Atheling: Well, you’re quite right, Sally.

 

And I think and I speak to my dear old mum, who’s in her eighties, and then she’s got a very fixed eye idea of that period in history and, you know, won’t move on it in many ways. But that generation is the old generation, and that’s very different amongst Zoomers and so on.

 

I think there’s a very different attitude that’s growing now.

 

Mark Collett: So, Natty, is there anything in the book that you think was missed out or anything you want to add to what we’ve said tonight? And then we’ll do the Superchats.

 

Natty: Well, there’s loads in here that I don’t think we’re going to get round to, namely the Katyn Forest massacre, which I think you’ve done a podcast, or a standalone video yourself, Mark, and I think was covered in Hellstorm. It’s not famous, normie wise, but it’s fairly well known on the Right, so maybe it’s not worth going into. But I will just note that initially the allies blamed the Germans for the Katyn Forest massacre, in which something like 26,000 of the Polish, the elite, the kind of cream of Polish society, a cream of Polish men, officers and educators and teachers and stuff, were executed, turned out to be the Bolsheviks.

 

The second thing, this book also goes into Dresden, which we’ve covered before. I know we’ve covered before, which is probably one of the worst war crimes, minus, if you set aside Hiroshima and Nagasaki, one of the worst war crimes, I think, to come out of the Second World War.

 

But one of the things I wasn’t aware of which I’m not sure if this was covered in Hellstorm, if I’ve read it somewhere else. I don’t think I have. Was the jewish Brigade. And, Dave, you probably know about this. Mark, I’m not sure if this was something you’re aware of but essentially the book says this:

 

“There was a jewish infantry brigade group, more commonly known as the jewish Brigade, that not many had been aware of a military formation of the British army. It was formed in late 1994 [1944].”

 

It goes on:

 

“Using their British army credentials and uniforms, they travelled around Germany (this is after the war) and Austria, hunting down and killing high ranking German officers. They had unlimited logistical support from the British army, could requisition anything they needed and travelled anywhere in Germany or Austria. They had all of Germany’s official records, which the allies had given them, obviously.”

 

[1:31:36]

 

And these guys were, like, hell bent on executing people just for being in charge of groups of soldiers. There’s a quote here:

 

“One of the jewish executioners, Israel Kami, explained in Beckman’s book how they dealt with their selected targets. When we arrived at the home of our suspects, we were put on British military police helmets, wore white bands and police armlets. Then we would enter the home and take the suspect with us, saying that we wanted them for interrogation. Usually they came without struggle. Once in the car, we told the prisoner who we were and why we took him. Some admitted guilt. (He doesn’t say guilt of what) Others kept silent. We did the job. We were burning with hatred. We knew that our people would never forgive us if we did not exploit this opportunity to kill nazis.”

 

What he really means is kill Germans. I wasn’t aware of that you know, that’s a British, supposedly a British brigade, a British army unit operating after the Second World War, going around and executing soldiers who had surrendered. There’s so many things like that about the Second World War that just fill you with revulsion and sickness of what your own government was up to!

 

Bill Atheling: It’s as if the dreadful Tarantino., …

 

Natty: Yes, exactly. In reverse!

 

Bill Atheling: Yeah, absolutely!

 

Natty: Yeah. There’s so many things like that.

 

I mean, this is going off on a tangent a little bit, but there’s a lot of instances in the media doing that kind of thing, switching up the sides. So Inglourious Basterds [2009] has this, you know, group of jews going around and killing people during the war. Well, it wasn’t, they weren’t taking prisoners in some partisan raid and carrying out daring things. They just got records and were going around extra judicially taking revenge on Germans.

 

And to get slightly off topic here, the same thing happened with, I’m going to forget the name of the film now, but it’s about a court case in which, oh it’s Our Time to Kill, it’s called. And it’s about a black father who kills two White kind of supremacists in the deep south after they rape his daughter. And the court case is all about the lawyer trying to get this black father off because you probably aren’t going to be judged too harshly for killing those two men.

 

But it turns out that the case was entirely reversed, and it was actually two black guys who had raped a young White girl. And that was the case that John Grisham had based the book off, which was the film was based off. That’s just an aside, but it just goes to show you the power of propaganda and what media can do.

 

[1:34:31]

 

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah. A pure jewish piece of propaganda! Screenplay by Akiva Goldsman, produced by Arnon Milchan.*

 

[* A Time to Kill is a 1996 American legal drama film based on John Grisham’s 1989 novel of the same name. Sandra Bullock, Samuel L. Jackson, Matthew McConaughey, and Kevin Spacey star with Donald and Kiefer Sutherland appearing in supporting roles and Octavia Spencer in her film debut. The film received mixed reviews but was a commercial success, making $152 million world-wide. Source: Wikipedia]

 

And of course, that’s that jewish Israeli spy who up until now has gotten off the hook with all the spying he did for Israel here in the United States.

 

Natty: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you. Let’s do some of these Superchats. We will go through these and then we’ll give our final thoughts on the book. Open borders for Israel gave $5. Thank you so much, my friend. And thank you so much for your continued support. He says:

 

“Hey, Mark, would you consider doing a review of any Lothrop Stoddard’s books?”

 

I’m not sure what they are:

 

“I recommend The Rising Tide of Colour Against White World Supremacy*. It was written in the 1920s and predicted a massive number of non-Whites coming to the West.”

 

I haven’t actually heard of that, but thank you for the suggestion. I will look into it.

 

[* The Rising Tide of Color: The Threat Against White World-Supremacy (1920), by Lothrop Stoddard, is a book about racialism and geopolitics, which describes the collapse of White supremacy and colonialism because of the population growth among people of colour, rising nationalism in colonised nations, and industrialisation in China and Japan. To counter the perceived geopolitical threat, Stoddard advocated Nordicism, racial segregation, and general racism, restricting non-white immigration into white-majority countries, restricting immigration of non-members of the “Nordic race” to countries primarily containing members of the “Nordic race”; restricting Asian migration to Africa; and slowly giving independence to European colonies in Asia (including the Middle East). A noted eugenicist, Stoddard supported a separation of the “primary races” of the world and warned against miscegenation, the mixing of the races. Source: Wikipedia]

 

Natty: I had it. I had a quick look at that, Mark. And Wikipedia is probably not a good source, but it seems that Stoddard had some other ideas, like we talked about earlier, that went off the rails slightly, but it might be worth looking into.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, I’ll have a look into that. And thank you for the Superchat. D salon seven gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Here in America, German villainy did not exist before 1916.”

 

Now, this is a really good point. I don’t know if Dave wants to comment on this briefly. He says:

 

“We had German language schools, newspapers, social clubs, and strong ties to Germany all long gone now. A rich cultural legacy eradicated, leaving only faint traces behind. In any of the context, this would be called a mass atrocity.”

 

Would you like to comment on that, Dave?

 

The fact that America was once a lot of German representation and that was basically stamped out.

 

[1:36:28]

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah, a lot of this stuff, personally, I get angry about it. But yes, there was, there still is a huge German population here in America. And unfortunately, because of the propaganda and who spews it, yeah, the Germans were wholesale looked upon as the enemy. And the people who control the media have had it out for these poor folks for a long time. And they still do, obviously.

 

So that’s why it’s incumbent on us in our positions, in our individual and group positions, to make sure that we do whatever we can to get the proper information out to as many people as possible, not knowing who we’re going to impact, but knowing that we are, in fact, having a great impact, especially now.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much, Andy Great Story. Good to see you tonight, my friend. Again, $10. He said:

 

“The award section of Money Tree Publishing is fantastic! Exemplary awards!”

 

Well, thank you, my friend. And obviously, if you want this book, please do go to Money Tree Publishing. The link is in the description below. It takes you to where you can purchase this second edition of the book.

 

And I believe that’s exclusive to Money Tree Publishing. I couldn’t find it anywhere else.

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah, it is, Mark, I just want to say first two things. One is the awards section. I named it “Awards” because that was if you go to Money Tree publisher and you look on the menu, you’ll see it says Awards. And what that is that was the award I was given by the Anti-Defamation League. So thank you again, ADL and Jonathan Greenblatt!

 

Now in the United States, and yes, it is exclusive just to us, and we carry a lot of banned books and exclusive products. But the way that the US postal system works, the United States, Postal Service, is that currently the US government is subsidizing China.

 

And of course, this is at the expense of countries like the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, pretty much everywhere else.

 

So China is getting great rates because of, obviously, economics, and they’re making everybody else pay through the nose. So if somebody from the UK went to Money Tree Publishing and, let’s say, selected the colour version of the book, the cost of the colour version is $35. The cost of the black and white is 25. The shipping to the United Kingdom is $32.58.

 

So if you got the black and white version, the shipping would cost more than the actual book, which is really horrible, but we have no control over that.

 

But what I will say is that if anyone from the UK wants to get the book, just go to moneytreepublishing.com and click on the contact tab and send an email to me. I’ll get it. And just have the subject line Villainy or MGV, capital M, capital G, capital V for Myth German Villainy. And just let me know you’re from the UK and I can arrange it so the shipping cost will be reduced to maybe five or six pounds sterling versus almost US$33.

 

[1:40:32]

 

So I can do that because we can get this printed in the UK at a facility in the UK and shipped to the UK. So that would probably help out with anyone who doesn’t., … And I can’t blame you. I wouldn’t want to pay those prices. But these books are available only from Money Tree Publishing. And when we first started in January 2017 with one book, we have never raised our prices and we don’t plan on raising the prices because the goal is just to disseminate the information. This isn’t like a typical “for profit business”. It’s to get this information into as many hands as possible.

 

So we’re not focused on making money, we’re focused on educating with this material.

 

So please go to moneytreepublishing.com, click on the contact tab, fill out that information and let us know you’re from the UK, and we’ll save you close to probably $30.

 

Mark Collett: Superb. Thank you so much! It Was Made Up gave $5. Thanks so much:

 

“Just a small donation to keep the lights on. Thank you and farewell to Bill, and thank you for making me aware of Money Tree Publishing.”

 

Thank you so much! Robbie Herbert gave $5. Thanks so much. Said:

 

“My maternal grandmother went over the top. Sorry, maternal grandfather went over the top on the first day of the Somme in 1916 with nearly 800 men while serving in the 8th Battalion, King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. He was wounded himself, but returned with less than 200 men on that fateful day. Something that he would never talk about.”

 

Thank you so much! And Robbie Herbert gave another $3.

 

Natty: Can I break in on that Superchat? Because, …

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, sure.

 

Natty: Someone mentioned this in the chat. There’s a brilliant YouTube channel [https://www.youtube.com/@ZoomerHistorian] at the moment called Zoomer Historian, or I think it’s Historian Zoomer. I’m not sure it’s even which way around, but he has just produced, I think it’s almost an hour long video saying:

 

“What would the war veterans think today? Would they have fought?”

 

It’s a really good channel and I don’t think it’s going to last long. So I’ll give it a plug here and if anyone wants to check it out, you can, because that Superchat, I think it was Rory Herbert, is very relevant to that topic, which is his latest video. So give Zoomer historian a chance if you’re on YouTube, guys.

 

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Mark Collett: Thank you. Good plug there. And Rory Herbert gave another $3. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Just over a year ago, I was invited to a St. George’s Day dinner at my old regiment. One of the guest speakers was the Ukrainian ambassador. Needless to say I decided not to attend. But it just goes to show how the British army, the Ministry of Defence and our government are in cahoots with one another.”

 

Thank you so much! Zach gave an Aussie token, said:

 

“Mark, please review Joe Haldeman’s Forever War.* And did you ever hear from Jeremy from Kentucky, Patrick Satter is co-host about doing a show about PA on RBN?”

 

No, but it is something I would like to do, so if Jeremy’s listening, I would do that.

 

[* The Forever War, a 1974 novel by Joe Haldeman. The Forever War is a military science fiction novel by American author Joe Haldeman, telling the contemplative story about human soldiers fighting an interstellar war against an alien civilisation known as the Taurans. It won the Nebula Award in 1975 and the Hugo and Locus awards in 1976. Forever Free and Forever Peace are, respectively, direct and thematic sequel novels. Wikipedia]

 

Skip Meister, 68, gave $15. Thank you so much for the kind donation, and Space Can gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“What is a world of peace if it is made from the blood of innocents? Our ancestors demand an accounting for the World Wars inflicted upon us!”

 

I agree. That is a very, very good Superchat! And we have one more Superchat that was over on, … Let me just bring it up. Where’s the where’s the other tab? It was over on Rumble and it’s for $20 from Red Pill. Thank you so much!:

 

“Thank you, Mark, for all you do. I own this book. Will watch the replay. Wanted to throw you some funds, though. You’re a living legend!”

 

Well, thank you for so much, my friend. Thank you for the kind words.

 

So that is the Superchats wrapped up. We’ve got about ten minutes left, so let’s everyone give their summations of the book going around the group. Bill, Aunt Sally, Natty, then me, and then we’ll give Dave the last word. Starting with you, Bill. Go ahead, my friend.

 

Bill Atheling: Thank you, Mark.

 

And I must say that I’ve been very fortunate. Every book that I’ve been involved in reviewing on the book club has been really good, and this is no exception. My grandfather was a Dunkirk veteran. He was very badly wounded at Dunkirk and invalided out for the rest of the war. Very patriotic man. Believed he was doing the right thing. Lied about his age to join up. After the war. And what he saw, the way the country was going, he was incredibly disillusioned in it. And I think, just going back to what Natty was saying about with these ex-servicemen, he certainly would have had second thoughts if he had the chance again.

 

I think this is an excellent book! It challenges the orthodox historical interpretation of events throughout recent history. The last 150 years. It does so in a very concise, direct and convincing way, and in a way that is actually very accessible. It’s very well written. It’s written in a very clear style of prose. It’s well backed up, it’s well referenced and it’s well worth buying.

 

[1:46:14]

 

Aunt Sally: First of all, I want to apologise for the sound quality of me tonight. It will be fixed for the next one.

 

And also, I want to say thank you, Bill, for being part of the book club. It’s been great having you. This book, out of all the books we’ve done, I think this is the most important book! If I could only keep one, it would be this one, alongside Hellstorm. It’s not my favourite book, but it’s the most important. When I saw it was a book about politics, I don’t like reading about politics in particular, really bore me.

 

But it was just one of those I couldn’t put it down. In fact, when I did put it down, I was then thinking, it’s a fantastic book and I can’t recommend it highly enough. Thank you.

 

Mark Collett: Natty.

 

Natty: Yeah, fantastic! Highly recommended! And, like I said, there are many books that cover various aspects, but this book is a great overview.

 

So if you are looking as someone who isn’t well read on this subject, this would be a really good place to start, and then you could branch off and dive into other topics.

 

Just as a final note, there’s loads in this book we didn’t cover, and I’ve got quite a lot in my notes, but Dolo on Odysee says:

 

“Big A, (and he’s talking about Adolf Hitler) let the Dunkirk lads go.”

 

That’s correct. And there’s a there’s a section in this book that covers Dunkirk, what happened and how the Brits were amazed when they found out that Hitler essentially let the entire British force go. And didn’t wipe them out and didn’t take them captive, because he was hoping that, … He had a lot of admiration for the British and was hoping that they wouldn’t pester him anymore. Unfortunately, I didn’t pan out for him.

 

But there’s just so many nuggets of information like that in this book, and there’s a quotation by German admiral on that subject. So, like I said, there’s loads of stuff like this in this book.

 

So if you want to find out about this pivotal period in history, this book is a very good place to start.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, well, I’m going to give my thoughts on it. I obviously really enjoyed the book. I thought it was excellent, and it went well beyond the scope of what I was expecting it to go over. It’s much bigger, much more in depth.

 

And I think I went through a few of the chapter headings earlier, but here’s that again. The myth of Germany is an evil nation. The Bolshevik Revolution spreads throughout Europe, the nation of Israel, life in Germany under Hitler creating the case for war, Germany as the victim. There’s plenty in there, and it covers a real lengthy period of a tumultuous period of European history and puts it all into context.

 

So I really recommend it. But the thing I really like about this book is its very illustrative as well. I think these books can be very heavy, especially when they’re trying to explain things. But this book stops short. It doesn’t actually explain things. It shows you them with great pictures, illustrations. All these things are annotated, and it let’s, you know exactly the kind of propaganda that the people at the time were being fed.

 

[1:50:08]

 

And I think this book is so important at the moment because it let’s everybody know that this isn’t something new, that what we’re living through now is not unique. Our time is not something out of the ordinary. This sort of manure has been fed to our people for decades. For centuries, in fact, now. The weaponisation of propaganda to force people to go to war, to make people hate other people. This is an age old tactic. And the tactic hasn’t really changed or evolved. It’s still the same today as it was 100 years ago. Babies being beheaded, people dragging women off as they burn their homes down. And in today’s world, these things are being used every day to make British people want to go to war with Russia, to want to stand by and let Israel carpet bomb Palestinian civilians.

 

So I think this book is not only important from a historical perspective, but it helps people today place what we’re seeing within wider perspective.

 

So, yeah, a fantastic book! Dave, is there any last words you would like to say before we shut things down?

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah. Thank you, of course, for having me on and headlining the book, and great to take part in this discussion, and thank you all for your kind words about the book. Like I said, it shows me that I did my job, and I’m very appreciative of that. I want to just thank you, Mark and the panelists here and your organisation for everything you are doing, because we’re all noticing what’s happening, of course, over here on this side of the pond. And we’re very sad about the direction that things are going with the stifling of freedom of speech.

 

Of course, we have those protections enshrined here in our constitution, thanks to, as I mentioned, your ancestors. We have the Constitution. We have the so-called Bill of Rights with the speech protections and other protections.

 

And so we’re in a much different position, again, thanks to your country.

 

So we’re able to say the things that, sadly, you can’t. But we are very appreciative of what your organisation is doing, and we’re very saddened by some of the recent development with Sam and seeing the child born and him not being able to take part in that, it’s very disheartening the direction of things.

 

But again, I’ll say that for me, as long as I’m alive and breathing, I’m going to do whatever I can to make sure that we do have free speech.

 

And that’s really what keeps me going. It’s not that I have anything against a particular race or ethnic group. It’s that being an American and being raised with the protections that we were raised with, if you don’t use it, you’re going to lose it. And I don’t want anyone telling me what I can say, when I can say it.

 

And again, I can’t obviously equate this country with yours, but I can say that we’ll do whatever we can here on our side to help you guys out and make sure that you can get what we have. Thankfully, again, thanks to your great country.

 

[1:54:26]

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much! I think it’s been a great show tonight. I am extremely tired because I’ve been up since 03:00 am, traveling back from Finland. So I hope it’s still been a high energy show and that I’ve been coherent throughout. There’ll be more updates through the week, hopefully when pictures and speeches emerge from the event in Finland, which I hope you all enjoy.

 

Anyway, we’ll be back next month. I’ve got to just firm up who the, whether the author of the book that we’re having on next month, so I don’t want to announce it, is free on that particular Sunday. So going forward from there. I’ll be making an announcement very shortly on that, and if it is the book we think it’s going to be, there will also be a free PDF of that, which I’ll share with everyone so people can actually read the book before, for free. So that’ll be quite exciting.

 

Anyway, I just like to say a huge thank you to Dave for coming on tonight. Massive thanks to Aunt Sally and Natty, but a special thanks to Bill. It’s his last episode tonight.

 

I’d like to thank him for all his hard work with the book club over the years. It’s been really great hosting with him, and I look forward to seeing him at future events. And if he ever wants to come back for a one off, he is more than welcome.

 

So, would everyone like to say goodnight? And let’s give the last word tonight to Bill. So Sally, Natty, if you’d like to say goodnight, and then we’ll throw it over to Bill and close things down.

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah, I just want to say good night Dave, and thank you very much for actually doing the book in the first place, because I think it’s a valuable resource for future generations.

 

And as Natty said, it’s a brief overview. It’s almost, I say, an idiot’s guide to what happened, but it’s an easy read guide to what happened.

 

So I just want to thank you, really, from the bottom of my heart, for bringing it all about. Thank you for being on the show as well. Thank you.

 

Dave Gahary: Thank you, Sally.

 

Natty: Yeah, good night, guys. Bill, you’re going to be missed! And to echo what a lot of people are saying in the chat, we miss Sam as well. And Dave, thank you for your kind words on that.

 

I mean, I didn’t have loads of interaction with Sam, but I miss him. You know, he was always present and I look forward to the day he’s back.

 

So thank you Chat, everyone who’s been interacting tonight, it’s been good and look forward to it next time.

 

[1:56:51]

 

Dave Gahary: Thanks, Natty.

 

Bill Atheling: Oh, thank you, everybody. And Mark, thank you so much! I totally enjoyed doing this. It’s just one of those things, circumstances beyond my control unfortunately, at the moment. It’s been a great privilege and a great pleasure to be here with this group of eloquent and interesting people. And thank you, Dave, for your book. It’s excellent!

 

As I said, it’s a high recommendation from me. And, yeah, Mark if things. Circumstances change, who knows? Maybe I’ll be allowed to come back on at some point in the future. But we’ll see what happens. But thank you, everyone. Keep supporting our guys. You know, I’m off to see Sam again next month. I write to him each week. You know, I write to Sam as well. Keep supporting them. You know, they, they’re doing well, but they need to hear from everyone and I’m sure many people are doing that anyway. Yeah. Thank you, everyone. And I shall bow out.

 

Dave Gahary: Thanks, Bill.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you so much to everyone.

 

I will be back in the week for Patriotic Weekly Review with Blair Cottrell.

 

I will also be gracing your screens when the footage from the Awakening Conference comes out. I did a speech all about Sam Melia and about the heroes of the future, so look forward to that.

 

I will also be back with Natty next weekend for the Nationalist A-Team. He will have all the maps installed or else he will face my wrath! And we will have a special guest for that stream as well, No Chance!

 

So we will be doing plenty through the week.

 

And if you haven’t checked it out, I’ve got a video out this week. It’s a bit of a light hearted one. I was in a bit of a rush this week, so I’ve got a light hearted video.

 

So if you’ve got ten minutes to kill and you want to laugh, that’s up as well. It’s about Lauren Southern. So I look forward to seeing you same time next month and hopefully before then.

 

And as I said, I’ll be back on Wednesday. Thank you to everyone. Thank you to Dave, thank you to Bill, thank you, Sally, thank you to Natty, and thank you to everyone who tuned in, everyone who donated so generously. Thank you so much! Have a great weekend, have a great evening. Good night, everyone. I’ll see you all again soon.

 

Dave Gahary: Thanks, Mark.

 

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MagicManintheSky
45 seconds ago
I have a copy of this absolutely brilliant book. It is easy to read and full of surprises to those who have been spoon-fed the Jewish propaganda narrative of WW2 all their lives.

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@MilosM.
1 hour ago
oh great No Chance will be on the next gaming stream

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@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
Mark Collett video | Shut up Lauren, you Daft Bint!

@dsallen7
1 hour ago
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All political expressiveness is flatulence; censor a fart and it will come back as thunder.
1 hour ago
thank you

@cheflad
1 hour ago
14 Deus Vult

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1 hour ago
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@MilosM.
1 hour ago
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@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
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@MilosM.
1 hour ago

@ReedJohnson
oh great.

@Aunt-Sally
1 hour ago
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Nordic Warrior
1 hour ago
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@CampsLindburgh
1 hour ago
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@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
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DOLO
1 hour ago
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@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
14s for Bill

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
Thanks folks. Till next time.

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
later o/

danzimmons
1 hour ago
thx

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@MilosM.
Mark’s speech on Awakening:

Awakening III 27.4.2024 https://t.co/EThZ8q7y84

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1 hour ago
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DOLO
1 hour ago
Thank you gentlemen.

@MilosM.
1 hour ago
The Death of the West by Pat Buchanan idk if it is any good.

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DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
np brother

@MilosM.
1 hour ago
oh, Mark was in Finland! Cannot wait to hear his impressions.

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DOLO
1 hour ago
Very good all things considered, i would be miserable lol.

@cheflad
1 hour ago
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@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
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danzimmons
1 hour ago
1⃣4⃣8⃣8⃣

Natty
1 hour ago

@DOLO
thanks Dolo, i havnt read that one

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
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@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
Freedom of speech is a precious thing. It should have been part of European nations’ legal constitution. When bad actors are not allowed to monopolize the media, good actors have nothing to fear from allowing (((bad actors))) to spew their lies. You just answer them.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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Nordic Warrior
1 hour ago
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DOLO
1 hour ago
He personally had over 17 hand to hand fights lol

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
by Leon Degrelle

@Zach
1 hour ago
even if Politicians don’t listen to Petitions to release political prisoners they are still helpful.

@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
Jews don’t care about honor. They care about the collective power of the Jewish global nation-in-dispersion. The shame belongs to Churchill for allowing himself to be used against Britain, Germany and the entire White West.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@Zach
That’s greatly appreciated. Thank you for doing so. No worries. We all do what we can, when we can.

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
Campaign In Russia: The Waffen SS on the Eastern Front

@Zach
1 hour ago
but even if you can’t afford to donate theirs other ways to help I’ve also petitioned for Sam Melia and Sven longshanks immediate release.

Natty
1 hour ago

@DOLO
what is the book called? is it burning souls?

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@BillAtheling

danzimmons
1 hour ago
jews who compromised Churchill have zero honor.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@Natty
Indeed. We all do.

@MilosM.
1 hour ago
14 for Sam.

Natty
1 hour ago
i miss sam

@cheflad
1 hour ago
Free Big Sam.

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
Free Sam Melia

DOLO
1 hour ago
Great book sir, thank you.

@cheflad
1 hour ago
Deus Vult.

DOLO
1 hour ago
All his unit seems to do is go in hand to hand combat, it’s crazy.

@ArcadeOutpost
1 hour ago
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@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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@tuer
1 hour ago
interestingly many british vets became catholics

@Zach
1 hour ago

@ReedJohnson
I’m always boosting the stream whenever I can. I’d give money if I could but I don’t have a lot of money. if I had the money I’d be donating but I don’t though I do what I can to help. including boosting the stream and advertising on platforms for mark like YouTube.

@BillAtheling
1 hour ago

@ReedJohnson
cheers mate

DOLO
1 hour ago
Should read Degrelle’s campaign on the western front, it’s incredible.

@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
Britain should have fought on the side of Germany against the USSR. If only alcoholic traitor Churchill had died of cirrhosis of the liver in the 1930s.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@RoryHerbert
You’re welcome.

mb14
1 hour ago
My great grandfather was in Verdun on the right side. he got shot thru the arm.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@BillAtheling
Thank you for all your contributions on Book Club. Always a pleasure. Best of luck.

DOLO
1 hour ago
Big A let the Dunkirk lads go.

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
Thanks for the above link

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jm
1 hour ago
Yes, Zoomer Historian is great !!!

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1 hour ago
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1 hour ago
zoomer historian looks fantastic

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
Zoomer Historian | Do British Veterans Regret Fighting World War 2?

DOLO
1 hour ago
I had a Great Grandad die at the somme as well.

Reginald Collett
1 hour ago

@mb14
6’1

@Zach
1 hour ago
moneys tight for everyone RN.

DOLO
1 hour ago
Bulk buy them mark

danzimmons
1 hour ago

danzimmons
1 hour ago
lol nice Dave

mb14
1 hour ago
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How tall is mrs Mark?

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Patria
https://odysee.com/@DigitalAlexandria:5/Gilgamesh:9

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1 hour ago
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1 hour ago
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mark please Review Joe Haldemans Forever war. and did you ever hear from Jeremy from Kentucky Patrick slattery Co Host about doing a show on PA or RBN.

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1 hour ago

@DOLO
Which audio of Gilgamesh?

mb14
1 hour ago
Hey Mark.

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@tuer
1 hour ago
there was a hate crime in the mall of america, black man throwing a white baby three stories down, that was used race reversed in Wonder Woman 1984 – it’s just what a miss IDF does

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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DOLO
1 hour ago
Typical

@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
No one hates more fervently and maniacally than Jewish supremacists.

DOLO
1 hour ago
Yeah

@UltimateTruth
1 hour ago
They love a false flag!

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago

@Aunt-Sally
Just asking, I had a fox that broke into my chicken pen and killed all of them. My young children were upset for months.

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
NKVD wore SS uniforms when doing the massacre

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
Hellstorm | PA Book Review:

@Aunt-Sally
1 hour ago
no Rory … I usually feed it

Long Knife
1 hour ago

@Natty
… I’m just want to examine the lampshade a little; that’s all … don’t tell me it mysteriously disappeared ?

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
Is the fox after your chickens, Aunt Sally?

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
If you criticize the Shoes you hate the Jews!

Natty
1 hour ago

@LongKnife1934
a black and white photo of a pile of shoes isnt enough for you??? OY GEVALT

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
$3.00
Just over a year ago I was invited to a St. George’s Day dinner at my old regiment. One of the guest speakers was the Ukrainian Ambassador. Needless to say I didn’t attend but it just goes to show how the British Army, the Ministry of Defence and our government are in cahoots with one another.

Long Knife
1 hour ago
it’s ok to demand evidence

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@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
The vanguard

Natty
2 hours ago

@SublimeBraid
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

SublimeBraid
2 hours ago
they’ve dug 666 rabbi holes around the one truth, Jewish Supremacy.

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago

@DOLO
It saddens me that so many are taken in by him

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DOLO
2 hours ago

@UltimateTruth
He was in London on St George day with Isreal flag lmao

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago

@DOLO
I liked how he praised the American Freedom Party, didn’t like what he just said about Patriot Front

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
If it wasn’t for the rigid & sophisticated censorship algorithms Jew elites have set on YouTube, millions more would be wake right now. Their shills & controlled opposition assets (Robinson, Murray, Hopkins, etc) don’t help matters

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
ancient Persia allowed Neahmiah to rebuild their temple. israel likes Idea of Persia. Its why you see the Paivlvo royal line consulted in the news. Today, the blood soaked temple sacrifice probably going thru.

DOLO
2 hours ago
Mark Dice was calling Patriot Front feds today, they are hopeless.

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
well said

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DOLO
2 hours ago
lol

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
(((Nosferatu)))

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
ancient Persia allowed Neahmia rebuild their temple be rebuilt. Today, the blood soaked temple sacrifice probably goung thru

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@Elledee77
2 hours ago
you will all live to see concerning iran, it return to the name PERSIA. SEE trump cyrus coin. israel states they can wirk with Persia.

DOLO
2 hours ago
In the book the, monsters of babylon, he really tries to state how our ancestors have been made to look stupid, and that they were really just as smart as we are, but they just didn’t have access to the updated knowledge that we have in modern times, with modern science.

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
They are expert liars. They always invert the truth. Just look at how they’ve continually gas-lit & lied throughout the period of the Gaza genocide

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
jews and moslems. same thing

Natty
2 hours ago

@LongKnife1934
yeah just like in kuwait, testified to in front of congress……and was exposed as complete horse shit

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
… human nature hasn’t change

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
so real

DOLO
2 hours ago
I actually listened to Gilgamesh the other day, fantastic story.

@tuer
2 hours ago
some people seem to enjoy to hate on germans, ever watched sargoy of akkads video on the Suebi?

Long Knife
2 hours ago

@WhiteLightKnight
… did they take the babies out of incubators before throwing them ? :hyper_troll:

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2 hours ago
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DOLO
2 hours ago
The book was excellent in my opinion, highly recommended.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
The level of brainwashing is astonishing

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
When this book is REQUIRED READING in high schools, youll know America is healed.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
A junior colleague told me of a hospital in Poland he visited. There was a plaque telling of how German soldiers threw babies off the roof. I told him to wake up and think about the German people of today. They are no different and Germans in 1940s were human and would not throw babies off roofs.

@Zach
2 hours ago

@karuppusuriyan
they were Jewish Bolsheviks the ones on top at least.

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
Jewish control of western mass media has been their greatest weapon in terms of conditioning the masses

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
uh, source

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
or stormtroopers from star wars

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
For sure! Tikkun olam. looks great. whoever thought putting talmudic mandates in charge of fixing the world, was a good idea.

@CampsLindburgh
2 hours ago
ordered. look forward to reading

DOLO
2 hours ago

@Darth_Joker
\o

@Zach
2 hours ago
it’s so Ridiculous it should be easy to perceive as blatant propaganda. but many of the Teachers who taught it in school believed it was actually true. my area has a lot of Christian Zionists so I think they were just regurgitating propaganda that they were fed.

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
o/ guys

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2 hours ago
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@tuer
2 hours ago
had I to describe the English in one German word it would be “vermessen”

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@Zach
2 hours ago
being a Former liberal I used to think similar to Aunt Sally obviously not her real name. but similar propaganda here in America the German’s and Japanese Roasting Jewish babies on Bayonet’s. similar to the 40 beheaded babies the same people are claiming what a Cohencidence.

danzimmons
2 hours ago
the intelligence agencies have given billions to the true traitorous scum the reporter’s ie activists sellout pukes

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2 hours ago
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@tuer
2 hours ago
just think about how much more dehumanizing it is to call others cattle/goy by default and compare that to barbarian, infidel or even a rat (which is at least free)

danzimmons
2 hours ago
so clear to even the most gullible fecking normie, or should be

@SkipMeister
2 hours ago
Truth is, this Ukraine war started in similar fashion to German/Poland.

SURIYAN
2 hours ago

@Zach
id rather call them soviets rather than russians

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
moslems and jews. same thing.

@Zach
2 hours ago
oh there was plenty of pillaging and merrymaking of women to put it in a PG way. but it wasn’t the German’s dragging women and underage girls to the barns. it was the so called heroes the Russians and to some degree the Americans.

@tuer
2 hours ago
with the printing press, fertilizers and that car thingie that we shared with the world, it’s kinda stunning what propaganda can achieve

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
…lol

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
it answered all my questions for sure. Diane King and Rizolis recomends if the book sold me

@Elledee77
2 hours ago

@RoryHerbert

The Awakened Saxon
2 hours ago
‘Find a reason to go to war with Germany.’ Letter from King George V to Sir Edward Grey, Foreign Secretary. However when the Foreign Secretary Sir Edward said that the cabinet hadn’t found a justifiable reason to enter the conflict, the King replied: ‘You have got to find a reason, Grey.’

@RoryHerbert
2 hours ago
The bombing of Dresden was clearly a war crime.

DOLO
2 hours ago

@Zach
My mistake. You could always pull a Bowden and whip out the magnifying glass lol

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2 hours ago
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2 hours ago

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2 hours ago

@DOLO
I’m aware this is available on Audio but apparently the fall of Western man isn’t.

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
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@SerenaJB
2 hours ago
Good evening.

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago

@Zach
Indeed. That would be a good idea.

Natty
2 hours ago

@WhiteLightKnight
i cant see it lasting long

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago

@Natty
Nice one. I am hooked to his stuff.

DOLO
2 hours ago

@Zach
https://odysee.com/@DigitalAlexandria:5/MythOfGermanVillany:8

@Zach
2 hours ago

@ReedJohnson
I’m sure it’s a good read but unfortunately because of my eyesight I won’t be able to enjoy it. hopefully someone can make it available in a Audio Format for people with Vision problems.

Natty
2 hours ago

@WhiteLightKnight
was going to plug him at the end of the stream

@tuer
2 hours ago
ZH’s video on british vets is dope

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2 hours ago
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@Elledee77
2 hours ago
heres the cazm of America and Europe ww 2. When my Dad met my mother here in America, 50s, he told her he was a nazi. her ww2 info from America, caused that news to scare her.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
On youtube there is a mind-blowing content creator callled Zoomer Historian. His playlist of AH is absolutely incredible.

@Zach
2 hours ago
what I find aggravating is how the Jewish plot to kill millions of German’s by Jews. by poisoning the water is covered up by the media and on the rare occasions it’s talked about the Jews are portrayed as the Victims acting in self defense. a blatant lie but stupid people believe it.

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@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
This book is fantastic. It’s such a great gateway to give to the Vagues.

@RoryHerbert
2 hours ago
$5.00
My maternal grandfather went ‘over the top’ on the First day of the Somme in 1916 with nearly 800 men whilst serving in the 8th Battalion, King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. He was wounded himself but returned with less than 200 men on that fateful day. Something that he would never talk about.

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago

@Zach
I’m sorry. No, unfortunately.

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
im German Hungarian. my dad was a child in ww 2

@Zach
2 hours ago
I enjoy reading but it’s very hard on my eyes so I’m forced to use audio formats.

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
YES!!!

@Zach
2 hours ago

@ReedJohnson
is marks book available on Audio due to my bad eyesight it’s how I learn from books.

@Elledee77
2 hours ago

@Zach
2 hours ago
the forever wars is available on Audio it’s not an expensive book either although I prefer Audiobooks over reading due to my bad eyesight.

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2 hours ago
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@Elledee77
2 hours ago
and things my dad said. he was a child in Europe during ww 2

Avid Fan
2 hours ago
Sort your mic out Bill, ffs.

danzimmons
2 hours ago
“concentrate” jews

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
let me say, Diane made reference to a vid for zio deprograming. THAT IS A FACT. Deprogramming from what has been puked into the mind if the west makes PERFECT SENSE TO ME. ive dealt with these. My self also. thanks to the Rizoli infos, i made it out.

@BillAtheling
2 hours ago
it’s because I talk like an Italian, even on my own, waving my arms about

@Zach
2 hours ago
but I think Haldeman had unintentionally stumbled onto their plans for the military in the Future and it spooked them to some degree. but then again I can’t see the Future just making an educated guess.

@Zach
2 hours ago
Joe Haldeman that was his name I’ve only read the first book of the series. but I consider the gay parts to be a Warning of the Future of America rather than LGBT Propaganda. especially considering how his book was attacked by the media not to the extent of a WN book would be.

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
“big tiddy goth girls needed, stat”

danzimmons
2 hours ago
steady your mic cord Bill

@tuer
2 hours ago
so basically our hope should rest on the chinese avenging the opium shame

@EndJewishPrivilege
2 hours ago
I can hear what sounds like a stapler

danzimmons
2 hours ago
lol

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
the code is “send more beer”

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
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@WingITprod
2 hours ago
Morse code

Long Knife
2 hours ago
Finally, England, through the Balfour Declaration, took over the safeguarding of Jewish interests in all states. The Frankfurter Zeitung knew exactly at the time what it was saying when it declared that the Balfour Declaration had been the yeast of English victory.” ~ Alfred Rosenberg

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
yep! their walk and talks are awesome.

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
microphone is clicking

Long Knife
2 hours ago
It had allowed the opium trade to fall increasingly into Jewish hands. The Jew Lord Reading, whose real name was Isaacs, took care of important loan negotiations with the United States of America.

Long Knife
2 hours ago
It had handed over control of all financial transactions to Jewish bankers such as Rothschild, Montague, Cassell, Lazards, and the rest.

Long Knife
2 hours ago
“Before and during the World War, Jewish high finance had declared that its policy coincided with the policy of Great Britain. England had conquered South Africa for the Jewish diamond dealers such as Lewis, Beith, Lewisohn, and the rest.

@Zach
2 hours ago

@Natty
he was attacked by the Media back in the day as being anti gay. I’m familiar with the Future soldiers being gay and Lesbian but back in the 70s when he wrote the book. his critics said that will never happen mate now look at the state of the military.

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
Rizoli walk and talk are great

danzimmons
2 hours ago
Bill hold your mic cord please

@Thor’sHammer
2 hours ago
It was not for nothing that the German Emperor was known as the Emperor of Peace in World War 1

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2 hours ago
ive followed the Rizolis since 2014-2015. It was amazing to see Diane King and Rizolis contributions in credits! too.

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always been the bad guys …

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2 hours ago
YES!! THATS what i lived about it. it goes back to Germany becoming a nation, ww 1. And it provided photo DOCUMENTS

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Sir

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I wish there was a way to get it in Canada without the crazy shipping. It will cost over 65 USD dollars in Canada, I really want it though

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2 hours ago
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The Myth of German Villainy | Ben Bradberry:

The Myth of German Villainy

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3 hours ago
Good evening ‘Bill the Academic’ ! :laughing:

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3 hours ago
Brilliant book a must read for all.

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Early 20th century, Germans were the USA’s largest ethnic group

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3 hours ago

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Evening mate. Unfortunately, couldn’t make it.

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3 hours ago
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@Natty
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Natty
3 hours ago
i read it before i was redpilled

@Zach
, i thought it was just a boring version of starship troopers but its been a long time so i might re-visit it, dont they end up in a future where everyone is gay and brown??

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3 hours ago
the Forever wars is a good read it’s a 3 part series I believe. even though it’s Fiction the writer was a Veteran of the Vietnam War. and is a great anti war book discussing how wars only benefit the Rich. of course he doesn’t talk about who the Rich benefiting from wars are but it’s a good read.

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Here in America, German “villainy” did not exist before 1916. We had German language schools, newspapers, social clubs, and strong ties to Germany, all long gone now. A rich cultural legacy eradicated, leaving only faint traces behind. In any other context this would be called a mass atrocity.

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Hellstorm | PA Book Review:

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3 hours ago
Great topic. More should be known about what really happened

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3 hours ago
Tremendous book!

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3 hours ago
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The Myth of German Villainy

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All political expressiveness is flatulence; censor a fart and it will come back as thunder.
3 hours ago
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3 hours ago
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3 hours ago
there is an audio version on Bitchute and here it is:

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3 hours ago
Nice, thank you.

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3 hours ago
I think its on archive.org

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3 hours ago
This sounds like a book I would be interested in, looking forward to the stream!

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@random
5 hours ago
the racist German stereotype its created by Jews from the propaganda machine Hollywood

Open Borders for Israel
7 hours ago
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hey Mark, would you consider doing a review of any of lorthrop stoddard’s books? i recommend the rising tide of colour against white world supremacy… it was written in the 1920s and predicted the massive number of non whites coming to the West

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Part 01 — Cover text; About the Author; Preface; Chapter 1: The Myth of Germany as an Evil Nation

Part 02 — Chapter 2: Aftermath of the War in Germany

Part 03 — Chapter 3: The Jewish Factor in the War

Part 04 — Chapter 4: The Russian Revolution of 1917

Part 05 — Chapter 5: The Red Terror

Part 06 — Chapter 6: The Bolshevik Revolution Spreads Throughout Europe

Part 07 — Chapter 7: The Nation of Israel

Part 08 — Chapter 8: Jews in Weimar Germany

Part 09 — Chapter 9: Hitler and National Socialists Rise to Power

 

 

Part 10 — Chapter 10: National Socialism vs Communism

Part 11 — Chapter 11: Jews Declare War on Nazi Germany

Part 12 — Chapter 12: The Nazis and the Zionists Actually Work Together for Jewish Emigration out of Germany

Part 13 — Chapter 13: Life in Germany Under Hitler

Part 14 — Chapter 14 & 15: Hitler Begins Reclamation of German Territory; The 1936 Olympics

Part 15 — Chapter 16: “Anschluss” The Unification of Austria and Germany

Part 16 – Chapter 17: Germany Annexes the Sudetenland

Part 17 – Chapter 18: War with Poland

Part 18 – Chapter 19: The Phony War

 

 

Part 19 – Chapter 20: Germany invades France – The Phony War Ends

Part 20 – Chapter 21: The Allied Goal? Destruction of Germany!

Part 21 – Chapter 22: Germany as Victim

Part 22 (last) – Chapter 23: Winners and Losers

 

 

 

See also:

 

The Myth of German Villainy: Author Ben Bradberry Interview — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

 

 

 

The World’s First Anti-Holocaust Convention — Instauration Dec, 1979

An Open Letter to New Jersey’s Governor

Historians or Hoaxers?

House of Orwell

Misha: Surviving with Wolves or …

Bradley Smith’s Smith Report # 1

The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies

The Plum Cake

 

 

 

Auschwitz: Myths and Facts

Powers and Principalities XI – Ewen Cameron, MK-Ultra, Holocaust Revisionism — TRANSCRIPT

Tales of the Holohoax – A Historian’s Assessment – Part 1

The Holocaust Lie — Made in America

Probing the Holocaust: The Horror Explained — TRANSCRIPT

Jim Rizoli Interviews Prof Robert Faurisson, Oct 2015 — TRANSCRIPT

Holocaust Eyewitnesses: Is the Testimony Reliable?

Alain Soral – My Homage to Robert Faurisson, Oct 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Inside Auschwitz – You’ve never seen THIS before! — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

Amazion Bans 100s of Holocaust Revisionist Books!

AUSCHWITZ – A Personal Account by Thies Christophersen

Jim Rizoli Interviews Bradley Smith — TRANSCRIPT

London Forum – Alfred Schaefer – Psychological Warfare – TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report Interviews Eric Hunt — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio – Germar Rudolf – Persecution of Revisionists & Demographic Disaster – Part 1— TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio: Nicholas Kollerstrom — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice TV – Ingrid Carlqvist – Scandal in Sweden When Ingrid Questions the Unquestionable — TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report with Carolyn Yeager on Johnson vs Anglin debate — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

 

 

911 – The Jews Had Me Fooled: A Jewish Engineered Pearl Harbor

Organized jewry Did 9/11

Organized jewry Did 9/11 — The 16th Anniversary, 2017

Know More News — Christopher Bollyn, The Man Who Solved 9/11 — TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report with Christopher Bollyn – Sep 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Guns and Butter interviews Christopher Bollyn — The War on Terror – Dec 18, 2019 — Transcript

AE911Truth – Exposing Those Who Covered up the Crime of the Century – May 28, 2023 – Transcript

 

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Dangerfield’s Introduction

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Dangerfield: Well right there. Oh, yeah, you are correct to see a silk cravat! And that is not an exotic sex move. It’s a silk cravat. I do wear whistles. I’ve got a few fully bespoke whistles. I thought I’d come in early, because Mark’s a bit late. Here we go. Look, hang on look here. Look, he says:

 

“I’ve just been for a walk with the family and I rushed back for this.”

 

Well, Mr Collett, you know, the only one who’s made an effort! That’s proper pure cotton T-shirt [laughing]. So this should be good. I’m looking to ask him Mark some difficult questions, some interesting questions. Getting to know him a little bit more, maybe?

 

We’ve just had another stream and we had nearly 500 people! Let me just get my comb. I mean no expense! No expense spared! Oh yeah, you enjoying that ladies? [combing his beard]. Just gently combing the beard. Gently combing the beard [laughing] Where’s he gone? Oh, it’s all too fast.

 

 

Well, he’s been replaced. I mean, talk about replacement. By the look of the amount of, … Yes, I have sent him the link Dionne! Come on! I’ve been doing this a while. I am gonna have to tell Mark about Ronnie aren’t I? Or he’s going to make absolutely no sense of “Ronnie did nothing wrong” and “Ronnie was never asked”. So maybe I’ll have to fill him in on that. There you go. Look!:

 

“Oi! Danger, what with the cravat? We don’t do that sort of thing around here!”

 

It was such a pleasure yesterday! Wasn’t it! What a thing to find. Good vid Johnny boy! Good vid! I Did though, it did though, no? I have Mark on Twitter! Yeah, I have! Oh no, I haven’t! [laughing] And I even said to Dionne, I mean, I’ve been doing this a while! Here you go Mark. Sorry. I apologize Dionne. I apologize to you Mark too [laughing]. Yeah, she nailed. It’s okay to be Ronnie! Sorry Mark. That’s all that time putting a cravat on! Yes, me’lad. Me man says Ronnie’s a wrong’n.

 

There will be no Church people tonight. [laughing] Come on, exactly Clarke! You know, I can’t go changing. Yes, it is crisis. You look, you know what you’re gonna get with me! No, no, I’m making myself look good. Yeah, he’ll be here in a minute. Well, exactly. Look who’s Ronnie. This is the problem.

 

Lovely to see you all here. We had 500 on my stream an hour ago, and we’re approaching 500 now. Hit the Like [button] while you’re waiting. Yeah. Yeah, it’s all strapped up at the back! It’s got buckles all the way down the back! Yes and Johnson. A cravat, no less! Too hot for a shirt. Thank you Angus, he’s another lad who’ve been around this channel for a while. Been here for a while.

 

It’s in your Twitter, I just sent it to you, hundred percent Mark! I’ll send it one more time. I can see it in your Twitter! In your Twitter. You got it twice now? [laughing] Mark, if you’re still watching this, it’s in your Twitter messages, can you not see it? I can see it there, twice, ticked! Both of them ticked.

 

Only the top half. [his clothing] Let’s not go mad here.

 

 

Connection Issues

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If you can’t see it now, we’re being, we’re being interfered with by forces outside of my control. That link is two times! Look I’m going to show you. So you people don’t think I’m nuts, … There he is! He’s here! Oh, he’s gone again! He came and went.

 

Everyone says hurry up. He appeared and then he went! This is annoying. So Crusader, this isn’t me. This isn’t me! Look he came and then he went again. Look I’ll show you once more. Share screen. Oh is he? Share screen. There look, see them? They’re the link. That’s mine and Mark’s private chat. I don’t know! Get involved with amateurs. Look what happens! [laughing]. Honestly:

 

“You haven’t sent me the link.”

 

Okay Mark, I’m going to put it in this chat here. It’s in this, it’s in here. It’s in this chat here. So you can come in here. It shows me on Twitter that it’s here. It’s in this chat here. [laughing]

 

You know, this is the first time I’ve done an interview, I thought I’ll go on first and have a little chat with them. And of course, typically, it’s the first one where it absolutely goes Fox Trot Umbrella! That was a slight change on it. Yeah, I had sent him it, though. Maybe Twitter’s messing us around, but you will not communicate.:

 

“Maybe he’s expecting it somewhere else?”

 

Daughter of Albion just sent me a message saying [laughter]:

 

“LOL, you trying to sort this out?”

 

Thank you Madam, Sarah. God knows what’s happening. I don’t know why, but the link is not going through. Right Mark, how else can I send it to you? It’s twice on your Twitter messages. Did you not see in this chat? How else can I get it to you? We had a personal chat on Streamyard. Don’t worry people, we can sort this. Don’t think we have, …

 

Hmm, Mark can you not click on it? Can you not click on it, the one in the chat?

 

He’s here people! He’s here! What a palaver!

 

[07:49]

 

 

Mark Gets Connected

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Mark Collett: I don’t know why that wasn’t showing up mate. I genuinely apologize. The last thing I want is to mess anyone around. And I can see my messages going to you, but I can’t see your Messages coming to me. So, my apologies! I thought genuinely you were joking until you put it up on the screen. I thought this was some elaborate prank!

 

Dangerfield: Imagine. I’ll make him look bad! [laughing] No quite the opposite. I’ve just done an hour stream and it was so busy and I was degenerating into nervousness by the end of it. Have you noticed I’ve made an effort there?

 

 

Mark Collett: No. No, you look great, my friend. I do feel really bad, because I’ve sent you a couple, saying I’m not getting it. I’m not getting it. And they’re just not getting, … Unless my Twitter’s just literally about to be banned, or go down! I don’t know. I mean, I’ve sent a tweet, but you know,

 

Dangerfield: Look, I’ll show you, just, …

 

Mark Collett:  No No! No, I believe you I’m not doubting you. Because I’m sure they will ping through eventually. In fact, I just sent you two messages and every message I’ve sent you has been redacted.

 

Dangerfield: Well, what on Twitter, or here?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, on Twitter. Every message I’ve sent you on Twitter hasn’t gone through. I’m just sending a message to Dionne, to see if it’s the same, or if she can see them. Because I sent you several message saying:

 

“I’m here waiting. I’m here waiting!”

 

And then every time I refresh my box, the messages are gone.

 

Dangerfield: No I haven’t got them. Strange. Okay. Well Dionne let Mark know. My paranoia alarms, …

 

Mark Collett: Either way, I’m sorry about that. That seems to be a bizarre mix up, unless it’s just a bug, or a glitch, or Twitter’s having problems. I know that certain servers in certain parts of the world are experiencing serious problems, because of all this coronavirus. And everyone sat in playing games online and messing about on the internet, and watching YouTube, rather than being out and about. So maybe that is something. But again my apologies. It’s a genuine mix-up, but, …

 

Dangerfield: No problem at all.

 

Mark Collett: I do feel bad as well because you’ve made such an effort! You came on nice and early and the for the first time in Dangerfield’s life he’s on time! He’s dressed up, and it all goes wrong! And I feel very bad about that.

 

Dangerfield: It’s fine. It’s fine! I was even combing my beard to kill time, but we’re here. We’re here. Thank you for coming on Mark. I asked you very politely and you said:

 

“Oh, I thought you’d never ask.”

 

And I thought you wouldn’t come on, that’s why, so, …

 

 

Dangerfield’s Reputation Vs Mark’s Reputation

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Mark Collett: Why wouldn’t you think I would come on? You’d be on my show.

 

Dangerfield: This channel has a certain amount of schizophrenia, you know, I have certainly got a past. And I haven’t been very shy about telling stories about that. And there’s a lot of people who we could suggest, you know, overlap in certain ideas, … Excuse me, who don’t like me. They take much offense to me. And so, I understand that you’ve got a reputation you’ve got a maintain. And so yeah, I didn’t want to get a blow out. But time came that I needed to talk to you and you agreed and here we are. Amazing!

 

[10:51]

 

Mark Collett: And I have literally just checked. Twitter are having problems. They’ve done a few minutes ago. They’ve admitted they’re having server problems. So yes. Twitter is down. Last updated thirty three seconds ago. Problems detected at Twitter.

 

 

On Getting Banned from Youtube, Twitter, Etc.

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Dangerfield: It’s good because, you know, when you’re people who talk about stuff like us, and things like that happen, your first thought is your channels gone, or your Twitter’s gone! That is always my first thought! [laughing]

 

Mark Collett: It is! I’m sure that both you and I were thinking, which one of us, or is it both of us? [laughing] Well, that’s good to know, that’s good to know. We can move forward now. It’s all cleared up. And yes, we can move forward with this very interesting show.

 

Because I’ve been looking forward to coming on, because you actually want to talk to me about something that people haven’t talked to me about, or challenged me on.

 

And it’s actually a very interesting topic that I do want to talk about, and do want to put to bed. And it’s also nice to come on other people’s channels, because when it’s your channel, you’re watching the Superchats, you’re watching the Entropy, you’re typing to people in the comment sections. You’re seeing the private messages. You’re looking at the Likes, the views. Whereas when you want somebody else’s channel. It’s so much better. Hosting one of these streams is like hosting a house party when your parents are away! When it’s in your parents’ house, it’s the most stressful thing ever! But when it’s at someone else’s house and it’s someone else’s parents who will be coming back to the nightmare, it’s so much fun!

 

Dangerfield: It’s funny actually. Someone said to me the other day:

 

“Why you always ignore my messages?”

 

And they’re not even Superchats. And I have an average of about 500 people a stream. And if you look at my chat in YouTube, it’s just zzzz! Oh, I’m sorry that I missed your message. I have left a pin in YouTube. If you want to ask Mark any questions they’re gonna have to be a Superchat, or an Entropy. And I will put them to Mark at the end, because they would all collate in Entropy. So I’ll just quickly pop the Entropy. Entropy is a preferable actually, because then you don’t give YouTube any money, which is always nice. But I’ll pop that in the link now. That’s in the chat now, so you can do that, and I’ll put them to Mark at the end. Well, I’ll have a look at them, because I know a lot of people just think:

 

“Oh, I’ll give you a pound and say something stupid!”

 

So Mark before, … That’s interesting, you said:

 

“I want to ask you something that needs to be discussed?”

 

How do you know what I want to ask you? Did I give you any information?

 

 

Topics of Discussion

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Mark Collett: Yes. You told me what you’re going to talk about before we here before the show. I bet you’ve had a beer, or something since, haven’t you? [laughing]

 

Dangerfield: I haven’t had a beer! But I didn’t think that I gave you anything. I’m gonna have a quick look now. I mean, I know that there’s a few things I want to ask you, but I don’t want to miss something that you’ve already prepared for. No, I didn’t tell! I just said it’s gonna be a bit “devil’s advocate”.

 

Mark Collett: Yes, but I know the nature of what you were talking about, because you told me the person you’d had on before. The topic of that conversation and you wanted to ask me about that sort of conversation and my take on it.

 

Dangerfield: Okay. Well, I’m a bit lost here, but this is exciting. Oh, I’m like, this is all tense! Basically, I just want to press you a bit, because I understand that sometimes people get you on to talk to you and find out what you think, but I feel like in, certainly in this sort of internet group, I’ve heard that a few times now. And I want to go somewhere else with it.

 

But first before we go that, I want to find out a little bit about you. Now obviously if you don’t want to talk about personal, … Don’t do that little smile, to try and win people over in advance. [laughing] what was life like for little toddler Mark Collett?

 

[14:50]

 

 

Mark’s Childhood

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Mark Collett: Little toddler Mark? Life was good! I really really liked Transformers, Lego and He-man! They were my favorite. Little toddler Mark liked those. And my favorite show was the A-Team. They were my big influences as a toddler.

 

Dangerfield: So you’re really an 80s kid?

 

Mark Collett: I was born in 1980.

 

Dangerfield: Wow! Wow, I mean, I was a little bit older by then. I was more of a 70s kid. Terrible times! When did you first start — I mean, obviously we’ve all got your fantastic performance with Russell [Brand], as a weird milestone — but when did you first start engaging politically?

 

 

The Ongoing Racial Replacement of the Indigenous People of Britain

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Mark Collett: Well, I was brought up — most people we know this story — but I was brought up in a small village called Rothley [pop of 3,897 in 2011] and, because I was brought up in that village where it was mainly, overwhelmingly, homogeneous, and White. And Rothley nearest large city is Leicester. And Leicester is the first city in the whole of the UK where Whites actually became a minority. You saw this big difference between a place where people were part of a homogeneous White community and a place where it wasn’t like that, where Whites were a minority.

 

 

 

How “Diversity” is a Failure

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And when you see that, you quickly wake up to the fact that multiculturalism isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. And it doesn’t produce some enriched, wonderful, diverse, place. It actually produces the kind of place where White people are pushed out and don’t want to live. And the quality of life in these multicultural cities isn’t improved. In fact, it’s vastly reduced! And then you see statistics that show that the whole of Britain is going to become like that, and you’re saying:

 

“Well, it didn’t work in Leicester, it’s not worked in London, it hasn’t worked in Birmingham. It’s not working in other cities like Bradford and Nottingham. Why would we want this for the whole of the UK?”

 

And being brought up in that kind of environment makes you question everything that the government’s saying, because you’re seeing the real effects of multiculturalism. You’re seeing the problems created by mass immigration. Yet the government, the media, and the establishment, are constantly telling you:

 

“No, no, no, everyone loves this! It’s a utopia.”

 

But you’re living in this utopia, and it’s anything but a utopia.

 

 

Patriotic Alternative and Its Activities, Aims, Becoming a Political Party

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Dangerfield: [laughing] Okay, so we propel forward. You’re a mature adult. And now it’s all about solutions. That’s where you are. You put together an organisation. I’d like to ask you a bit about that, because I can’t work out whether PA [Patriotic Alternative] is a political organisation, is it a community organisation. How would you define it? Is it a party?

 

 

Mark Collett: Well, it’s a political movement, but we would like to be registered as a political party as well. I think to pigeonhole Patriotic Alternative as any one thing would be very, very, naive.

 

It’s a lot of things. I mean, the fact is our first meetings were actually camping trips, just getting people together. We hold conferences, we hold dinners and lunches at nice wine bars. We hold Christmas events. We go hiking, we go camping, we have the conferences. And yes we would like to at some point stand in elections, if it is to our benefit. The fact is we can’t be pigeonholed as one thing, because we’re many things. And there seems to be a lot of people who try to pigeonhole us, and try to say:

 

“Oh no! No! You shouldn’t be doing this! Politics isn’t a solution! You need to be doing something different!”

 

 

The Struggle for the Survival of Western Civilization

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Well, at this point, we are locked in a struggle for the survival of Western civilization! And there are many, many different routes to power. And many, many different routes to getting more people involved in our community. And my message is, why close off any of those roads to our movement, to our organisation? We need to be fluid. We need to take advantage of the situation. And that doesn’t mean we throw everything into elections. That doesn’t mean we pour millions of pounds into the electoral route, only to get 2.5 percent.

 

But if tomorrow it turns out that say a Muslim MP was part of a grooming gang, why wouldn’t we stand in that constituency and put out the Patriotic Alternative message to thousands of voters and use the electoral system to have tens of thousands of leaflets delivered for free by the Royal Mail? We have to be careful with what we do. And we have to keep all avenues open.

 

And the recent conference showed, we’re not just a political party. The camping trip has shown we’re not just a political party. The Christmas meetings show we’re not just a political party. The fact is we haven’t even stood in an election yet, and people are throwing around terms like:

 

“Oh, this is just another political party.”

 

Well it clearly isn’t.

 

 

Application to the Electoral Commission

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Dangerfield: And that’s actually the one thing you’re not yet [laughing]. Amazing! So the application for the Electoral Commission, is it, that’s so that you can establish yourself as a political entity, is it?

 

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Mark Collett: Yes, because we want to be able to stand in elections when it is to our benefit. Now this has got to be very clear. In the past, nationalist parties have had these suicidal sort of “Charge of the Light Brigade” electoral campaigns, where they stand hundreds, … They say they’re gonna stand 100 seats, then they say we’re going to stand 200, and before they know where they are, they’re standing 300! They end up losing half of their deposits — that’s 500 quid a pop — and they manage to scrape at best 6, or 7 percent here and there. And at the end of it, the party comes out of that absolutely demoralized! Absolutely beaten down! Many people leave. That isn’t what I see is a successful route to victory.

 

 

How and When PA Would Contest Elections

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If we are going to contest elections, the elections we would contest would be in seats that we felt we could do well in. Seats where we could recruit many people from. And that’s the main game plan, is to use the electoral system when it is of benefit to us in order to recruit people. And eventually, if we can win by the ballot box, then fantastic! Why not?

 

 

The “Can’t Win by the Ballot Box!” Argument

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You see, there’s a lot of people who keep saying:

 

“You can’t win by the ballot box!”

 

But what’s the alternative? Are these people really suggesting some kind of violent revolution? Are they actually suggesting some kind of armed struggle against the government? Because if people want me to spend the next two, or three, hours discussing why that’s a complete nonsense, I am happy to do so. Because violent revolution is not only a foolish thing to go round and promote, because it will get you locked up, but it is also a complete non-starter in the current world!

 

 

Historical Examples of Approach

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Dangerfield: Okay. We’ll get on to that I’m sure. So, are there any historical examples of movements of taking this multi sort of faceted approach with the party side of it at the beginning being quite minor?

 

Mark Collett: Well you’ve got both Loyalist and Republican movements in Northern Ireland. The SNP spent years and years and years in Scotland building up a community base, before it swept to power! I mean, if you look at Scotland, Scotland was always completely red. Labor Party always said:

 

“It’s Scotland that see us take power!”

 

Labour always relied on Scotland to take power. Now the SNP win in Scotland every time! Labor don’t come anywhere near a majority in parliament. But the SNP and Plaid Cymru [Centre-left, Nationalist, Democratic socialist, Welsh independence party] in Wales both built a large community basis before they took power. And that’s exactly what we’re talking about doing.

 

We’re not talking about standing as many seats as we can and asking people to throw in thousands and thousands of pound. In fact, there’s not even a donate button on our website. [laughing] So, we’re not asking for that. What we’re saying is let’s build a community, let’s use all avenues open to us. And when it benefits us, we will stand candidates.

 

 

Advantages of Being a Party for Spreading Our Message

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And as I said, there were plenty of times that parliamentary by-elections come up and those parliamentary by-elections are in seats that are very, very, fertile ground for us! And for a 500 pound deposit, and for a thousand pounds on leaflets, you could have well 70, 80, 90, thousand people reading a leaflet by Patriotic Alternative, that is delivered for us by the Royal Mail, all funded by the government! [laughing] And why not? Why not do that?

 

I mean, at one point the European elections were always seen as a nationalist parties chance to bloom! Because if a nationalist party stood a candidate in every single region, they could guarantee that every house in Britain, or every delivery point — and there’s about 30 million delivery points in Britain — would get a leaflet from that party. It was a huge advertising drive! Those elections weren’t just fought to get people elected to Brussels, they were fought to advertise your party! And when it is to our benefit, we would do something similar.

 

 

The More Radical Followers Online Vs the Pa Meetings

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Dangerfield: Yeah, that makes sense. Mark, when you talk about the meet-ups, and the conferences, you frequently talk about people’s appearance. And it seems to make you happy that people are turning up suited and booted, well presented, the men and the women. And I know you have a “history” and you’ve seen all their bomber jackets and all that before.

 

But when I look at a lot of the support PA gets online, and, you know, people in the chat in some of your videos, and especially on videos on BitChute, I see a lot of imagery that is kind of dodgy. I don’t think the general public are gonna respond to, … You know, the kind of thing I mean, like proto-Germanic insignia, iron crosses [laughing], and I think it’s really bad optics! And it’s okay in real life turning up in a suit.

 

But, I think if someone comes to PA online — which has an effect, you know, you’ve built a community up online — they come to see you and No White Guilt and some Slattery, [Patrick Slattery] or someone on chat, because they’re interested. And they’re going to see some of those avatars, and some of the stuff that said, and I think it’s repellent!

 

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Mark Collett: Look, some people may be put off by that, but the fact is, our movement is built on ethno-nationalism. Our movement is built on people who seek the truth. And it is also built upon people who are absolutely anti-establishment!

 

See video on BitChute: Brexitday & The Limitations Of Bulldog Patriotism

 

 

Pretending to Be Civic Nationalists Vs Being Ethno-Nationalists

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Now a major error that nationalists have made in the past is trying to deny those things! A major error that nationalists have made in the past is to try and clothe themselves in what is really Civic nationalist iconography! So they have a bust of Churchill in the background, they have their little bulldog, they have Spitfires flying overhead. But secretly all of their members don’t actually believe in those things. And that’s what happened to the BNP.

 

Then, the BNP would be routinely exposed as being full of people who are essentially lying! Because they’d have Churchill on their leaflet, they’d have Spitfires, they’d have a bulldog. Then a journalist would come to a branch meeting and somebody would be talking about a certain period of history in Germany, or revisionist history about a certain alleged occurrence. Or somebody would be talking about racial nationalism.

 

And we are ethno-nationalists! We do believe race is an issue.

 

 

Bulldog and Spitfire Nationalism

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Now, quite fundamentally, Churchill, the bulldog nationalists, those who keep championing the British Empire are obviously not racial nationalists! The British Empire wasn’t something built on race, it something built on capitalism. And that’s very important to note. And the idea of Britain, and being British, is largely tied to colonialism, and to four nations being tied together. Now I’m not so bothered about the Union Jack. I’m not so bothered about the idea of Britain. I’m more bothered about the people who built Britain, which is the English, the Irish, the Scots, and the Welsh — the indigenous people.

 

Because I believe that if tomorrow you got rid of the flag, you got rid of the notion of being British, but all you were left with was the indigenous English, Irish, Scots, and Welsh, we would build something magnificent again.

 

Whereas, on the other hand, if the indigenous people were dispensed with, and you were left with the flag, the iconography, little bulldog statues, but our ancestral homeland was filled with other people’s — Somalians, Nigerians — who all said they were British, I don’t think anything good would come from that! I think you would have a very different outcome.

 

 

The Need for Honesty in Presenting What We Stand For

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And what I’m saying is, the people are what makes it. And this is going to be hard for people to accept, but I think the public would be more amenable to an honest person who speaks their mind, even if what they say is difficult to swallow, than they would be to somebody who clothes themselves in iconography, and certain symbolry, that isn’t really what they stand for!

 

What I’m saying is, you’re better saying something honestly and openly, and having people say “Oh, I’m not too sure about that!” then you are trying to get in with those people by telling lies, and trying to be something you’re not. And when you see past exposés of the British National Party, you would always see the media take the angle that ultimately the British National Party are saying that this, but really they’re this! And then they’d play the secret footage.

 

Now I’m not saying we should be going out there and trying to be provocative, or using imagery from 1930s Germany, but what I am saying is, we are ethno-nationalists and that isn’t exactly what the British Empire was. So if we try to clothe ourselves in a garb that isn’t really fitting, sooner, or later we will come unstuck, because of that.

 

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Are You and PA, National Socialists?

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Dangerfield: Okay. Understood. Mark, is Patriotic Alternative, are you National Socialists?

 

Mark Collett: Well that’s a very interesting question! You see I am a nationalist! I am somebody who believes that the indigenous people should always be put first. I’m somebody who believes that the indigenous people should remain a majority in their own country. I am somebody who believes in closed borders, managed immigration. And I’m somebody who pushes for a policy of voluntary repatriation. And I believe that people who come to this country, or have come to this country, who are not indigenous to this country should have to speak English, do their best to fit in. And if they can’t, they should leave. I am a nationalist!

 

However I also have a social conscience! I believe in looking after one another. I believe in community. I believe in collectivism before individualism. I believe in the NHS. I believe in a benefit system that should protect the elderly, and the vulnerable, and people who fall on hard times. A benefit system that is there as a safety net, not as a hammock for the lazy, or for migrants from all over the world! I believe in community spirit. And if that makes me a “socialist”, well, so be it! And if you think that I’m a nationalist, and if you believe my policies also have a flavour of socialism, you can call me what you want, but I simply define myself as a nationalist.

 

Dangerfield: So if you were asked in public, like you are now, if you’re a “National Socialist” you would say, …

 

Mark Collett: I would say I’ve never been a member of the NSDAP! [laughing] that was abolished in 1945! And I might talk like an old man, but I’m not quite that old!

 

 

 

The Feasibility of a “Kai Murros” Style Violent Uprising

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Dangerfield: [laughing] Great answer! Okay, let’s get on to your friend and mine, Kai Murros. I spent a bit of time talking to Kai offline. I saw a speech he’s done — you’ve probably seen it — and I find him quite interesting, …

 

Mark Collett: Can I just say something before we move on? There’s someone in the chat, and I’ve just noticed this. She said:

 

“I don’t believe in collective division — unsmiley face.”

 

 

Collectivism Vs Individualism

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And I just want to address this lady. Collectivism is what keeps you alive! Collectivism is why we as a racial group are losing! You look at the Muslims, they stick together! You look at the jews, they stick together! You look at blacks, they refer to each other as “brother”. Whereas Whites act as individuals! We think of ourselves — we used to think of our community. And if you look at the way Whites have behaved in many cases during this Corona virus pandemic, and you see the bulk buying, the greediness, the fact people are willing to fight each other over loo rolls, do you want a society of individuals who are atomized, isolated, and broken up? Or do you want a family? Do you want to walk onto your street and say:

 

“This is my community! And we’re gonna work together and get through the hard times!”

 

Because I’ll tell you now, if you believe in “individualism” you believe in the death of your people!

 

 

The Need for Community

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Because I can tell you this now, we are having our daughters abused, because we are “individuals”! Our young lads are getting attacked by gangs from other communities, because we act as “individuals”! If we acted as a community, and we work together as one, we would be like a shield wall and we would look after each other. When you think of yourself first, your community dies!

 

And if we are to survive the coming storm we need to think “tribally”! And everyone else does! And there was this great lie out there, this great lie out there, that somehow “community thinking” is a leftist idea. And I’ll tell you this, I am NOT a conservative! I am also NOT a Labour Party supporter. But I take the best bits from everything. And I certainly don’t say:

 

“Just, because the Muslims are a collective, we can’t be a collective!”

 

I’m not playing opposites with anyone. You know, if somebody who is from a different political group to me, or a different racial or ethnic group, has a good idea, or has something that’s working for them, why wouldn’t I adopt that? Obviously people who survive, people who work together, people who stick together, come out on top!

 

We were once great, because we had a powerful community where we looked after each other. We are now the bottom of the barrel! And we are being picked on! We are being attacked! And we are being abused by all these other groups, because we act as individuals. And when you’re an individual, you are easy prey for those that want to hunt you!

 

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Back to the Feasibility of a “Kai Murros” Style Violent Uprising

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Dangerfield: Yeah. I agree with all of that.

 

So going back to this. When I wrote to you to ask your opinion on Kai Murros, and I said:

 

“What do you make of this business about storm troopers piling into universities, dragging the professors out, and hanging signs around their neck, much like they did in Mao’s China?”

 

Which, I have to admit, having spent seven years at university and it kind of ruined my life, it can appeal to me on one level. And you just flicked it away, like it was less than nonsense! So can you talk to me about Kai Murros, his ideas, and why you think they’re not going to happen. Because there are historical examples where they have. I think you’ve got Cambodia, you’ve got China, you’ve got former Yugoslavia, when these ticking time bombs did kick off! And people did just take to it — don’t laugh at me! [laughing] I know Cambodia wasn’t the best example! [laughing]

 

See: Kai Murros ‘National Revolution in England’ — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

“The English Man Has Nowhere to Run!”

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But Kai seems to think that the problem, … Let me put this to you what he said to me the other day was:

 

“The English man has nowhere to run!”

 

In America they have the luxury of White flight, but you can only run so far out of London before you’re in Birmingham, and we’re going to become like trapped animals. Now I agree with you. I don’t want that. I don’t glamorize that. I think when people find out what that kind of event is actually like, it won’t be the glamour they possibly think.

 

However, if there isn’t a political solution, if that doesn’t occur for whatever reasons, I do think that when we’ve got nowhere left to run — and again I want to stress if there hasn’t been a political intervention before then — I think there’s a very good chance it would kick off like that. Because there will be no option! Do you not think at least that? If there isn’t a another option that is working, … When we’re being chased out of our homes, which is almost inevitable, and you know this, the way we’re treated today, how are we going to be treated in 50 years?

 

Mark Collett: Well I’m going to ask you a question then. Because this is going to set the scene for my answer. You’re talking about “popular revolution” aren’t you? Popular?

 

Dangerfield: Yes.

 

Mark Collett: And I’m talking about the “popular vote”, or a community, okay? Now the key word is “popular”, because no revolution succeeds if it isn’t popular. And no one wins at the ballot box unless they are popular. So the key is “popularity”. And I hear a lot of people talking about a popular revolution, about storming the police stations, pulling out the cultural Marxist from universities. I hear people talk, fanciful stuff, about dragging their MPs out of Parliament and stringing them up from the lampposts!

 

But I tell you this. That is NOT going to happen unless you have a community! That isn’t gonna happen overnight. These things don’t just ferment. You don’t just get thousands of people on the street and it all breaks down and people say:

 

“Right! Down with the cultural Marxists!”

 

Dangerfield: Didn’t that happen in the Philippines?

 

Mark Collett: The revolutions you’re talking about were fermented and there was leadership, there was a structure, there was people behind that. Every revolution that you’re talking about, hasn’t just exploded. There has been networks of people that have coordinated that.

 

So what I’m saying to people like Kai Murros, or to other people talking about revolution saying we shouldn’t get involved in anything, because the revolution is going to come, well are you helping to organize the revolution? Are you building a community to make sure the revolution happens? And the answer is always no! Because in my time in nationalism I have seen so many people say the following, to this question:

 

“Hey mate! Do you mind coming out and helping me leaflet? Because I’m standing in East Leeds for council election.”

“No mate. No! Don’t put me down for elections mate, that’s not for me!”

“Oh, okay. Well is there anything you can do to help me?”

“Look mate. When the term comes, when the revolution comes, I’ll be there! That’s when I’ll be the first over the trench! I’ll be the one at the front leading the charge. But if it comes to putting out leaflets, count me out mate! I’m getting me lager.”

 

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[Laughing] I have seen these calls for revolution this talk of this giant collapse, and this big, you know, almost holy battle that will take place, during or after the collapse and bring us victory. I’ve heard about this so many times. And this big collapse, this big battle, has never happened. And I’ve seen so many nationalist leaders say:

 

“This is the last chance! This is the last chance! If we don’t win this time, it’s all gonna burn!”

 

And yet we’re still here! It hasn’t all burnt. There hasn’t been a big collapse. And all of these people who didn’t help me leaflet are still at home, slightly older, slightly less hair on their head, slightly fatter, drinking another can of lager, and they’re slightly less fit to fight this revolution that has never come! There is no date for it, and he doesn’t look likely to be coming anytime soon.

 

 

The Futility of Talking About Violence — Two Reasons

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So what I’m saying is, get on board and build a community. And if we’ve got a community and we don’t win via the ballot box, and push comes to shove, the community we have built will stand together and at least give us a chance of success in a more hostile environment. But more so, people who talk about violence now, are absolute idiots!

 

For two reasons.

 

Firstly, there is nothing worse than talking about violence, because you will get people locked up! You will get put on terror watch lists! You will end up like people from a banned organization in the UK, who are now all going to jail for staying in touch and advocating for things that they shouldn’t have.

 

But secondly, it’s absolutely unfeasible! I see this in America all of the time. People saying:

 

“We’ve had a revolution before! We kicked out the Brits! We’ll do it again!”

 

 

Military Technology and the Surveillance State

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The time of single-shot muskets is gone l [laughing] Even if you have, you know, AR14s, semi-automatic Armalite rifles, you are no match for the military and a militarized police force. The fact is now you’re not going up against soldiers with muskets, who can be overpowered. You’re not going up against people you have the same level of arms as you have. You’re going up against a militarized police force, and an army that would crush you in seconds! And we’re talking as well about a time where the surveillance state is so powerful that you are tracked everywhere you go.

 

Football hooliganism in the UK was largely shut down because hooligans had their mobile phones triangulated. So when they sent a text it showed the police which mast, which mobile phone masts they were closest to. So mobile phone masts are notoriously short range, and they’re attached to buildings all over the place. You see them hidden behind chimneys, you see them on petrol garages, they’re hidden in the big totems that give you the price on the forecourt. And that’s why you don’t get a phone signal when you’re on an aeroplane, because these masts are only very local. So football hooligans who are sending texts to organise fights, the police could see which receiver, which mobile phone masts the texts pinged off. So they could see where they were close to, and they shut them down.

 

And the CCTV is everywhere, literally everywhere. And private homes are covered in CCTV, and the police can listen to you through your phone through your computer. Everyone’s got an IP address which is traced. Everyone’s phone is registered to a person. They can see when you’re logging onto Facebook, because it tracks all of your data. People who have committed violent acts have been caught, because when their phones and sat-navs are collected, the sat-nav, or the phone, tracked exactly where they went. And the police have proved their whereabouts.

 

We are living in a time where not only are we massively outgunned to the point where people are now being killed thousands and thousands of miles away by an operator who sat by a desk watching a screen with an Xbox 360 style pad in his hands, dropping incredibly powerful precise payloads from a drone! We are so outgunned it’s unbelievable! And we are also so heavily surveyed that is also unbelievable!

 

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And those two things mean that anyone who is actually stupid enough to try and enact violence against the system, will find very quickly that they are shut down, destroyed, thrown in jail, or killed when they tried to do it! And we will be the ones who bear the brunt when those people are locked up, or dead, because it’ll be our organization’s they shut down. And people like myself, people like you, say they’ve been watching our streams, it doesn’t matter that we’ve said we’re not violent, they will use that as evidence against us! The road the road of violence is closed off to us.

 

 

How the Police and Army Are Not on Our Side

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And what’s more another thing that I hear which is absolutely nonsense, is people say:

 

“Nah Mark! British Army! British Army? They’d never turn their guns on lads on the council estate!”

 

Of course, they would! There’s this bizarre cult around, specifically the British Army, where people believe that by joining the army you are automatically some kind of hero that would never turn their weapons upon the British people. I’m sorry to break this to everyone, but that’s not the case. And I’m gonna illustrate why that’s not the case.

 

If I sent twenty, or thirty years ago to people in Britain, the British police will actively cover up and assist hundreds of thousands of cases of rape, grooming, sexual abuse, and hundreds of thousands of White British girls will be abused by men of migrant descent, and the police will cover it up, help the migrants do it, and arrest White people who try to stop it, people would have given me this response:

 

“Nah mate! That is an insane conspiracy theory!”

 

Yet it happened!

 

The British police helped to shut us down. They helped to allow migrants to abuse our young girls. And the British Army are being filtered in just the same way that the police were filtered. They are being multiculturalized, they are being politicized. And if push came to shove, those people would shut us down with a level of brutality and force that we have never seen before!

 

And when you look at places like Vietnam, places Cambodia, or historical revolutions, the difference in the way people were armed, and the way the government was armed, wasn’t massively different. Okay, the government were better armed, they might have had a professional army, but their weapons weren’t an Armalite rifle and then a militarized police vehicle with three, or four inch titanium armor. The difference is night and day! And again it’s very foolish for Americans to believe.

 

And as I’ve seen recently Americans have seen this in places like Charlottesville. They’ve seen it at these pro-gun rallies. They went to these places expecting the police, the National Guard, and people who they had at one time, or another, looked up to, they expected those people to be on their side. They weren’t! The state is against us! The people the state employ are against us! They have a vast militarized network. They have a vast, vast, surveillance network.

 

 

Anyone who is talking about violence is either absolutely insane and hasn’t really thought it through, or he’s using that as an excuse not to get off the bench and do something political.

 

Dangerfield: Yeah, fantastic! I’m glad you addressed that, because it’s really relevant. Because when I had Kai on, when I spoke about him before, chat goes mad for him! People love it! People love it! And that’s I think this is important that’s addressed. Because people will gravitate to those kinds of ideas. Perhaps, because of what you said, because they don’t actually have to get off their arse! They can just wait for this revolution to come and sit on their lap.

 

All right, I was part of the RCP in Great Britain, years ago. And I remember going around to one of our meetings and the bloke running it wanted us to read George Lucas’s “History and Class Consciousness”, which was a treatise on collectivism, basically. And we started reading and it’s heavy stuff, you know, it’s heavy Marxist dialectics, and it’s heavy! And this one bloke got up, and he went:

 

“I ain’t got time for this shit! You get back to me when the AK-47s have arrived!” [laughing]

 

And as much the same as what you said, you know, you need to learn! It’s the same as leaflets, it’s actually work! Work is involved in this! Very boring, potentially dull ground work. But I think that was a fantastic answer. And also anyone who’s watching it who’s still holding out for the Romantic revolution, because it’s glamorous and you’ve seen your movies, as Mark said, at the same point, without organisation at the bottom it’s nothing! It’s gonna be people stealing your petrol, and that’s pretty much it. Nice one Mark! That was a fantastic answer.

 

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State Monopoly over Information?

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So, the next thing I wanted to ask though and it’s on the back of that, … Aren’t we outgunned in terms of technology, in much the same way you just explained we’re outgunned, literally. Because if you’re going to be building up communities with leaflets and the little stuff we can do on the internet, your position, they were all over us! They’re in our front rooms, you know, information is also a weapon!

 

Can’t these people actually crush you the minute you actually stick your head above the parapet? Say say Patriotic Alternative sets up very successfully, twenty local movements, the numbers are growing, you get your thing with the Electoral Commission. You might even get someone in Parliament, or someone’s standing somewhere and it’s looking good. If they wanted to, isn’t it the same in those terms? Isn’t their information capabilities, their propagandizing abilities, way out outstripping you?

 

 

Mainstream Media No Longer as Dominate as in the Past

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Mark Collett: Yes and no. We have now a huge advantage that we never had. In fact, several. Back in the BNP [British National Party] days, the media was actually more powerful than it is today. Because we only had five channels in the UK, except for people who had Sky. And a lot of people read the newspapers.

 

Newspapers are now dying! Newsprint industry is literally being destroyed! And these papers are downsizing, downsizing, many are going out of business. And we are also seeing people turn away from the mainstream media. There isn’t just five channels. There is Sky, there’s cable, and there’s also a wealth of alternative media all over the Internet.

 

So, in fact, we have actually leveled the field against the mainstream media, more than we’ve ever done before. But also another thing has changed which has been a very, very dramatic change. And largely, or a lot of this is down to Donald Trump, who did us several massive, massive, favors. And one of those was undermining faith in the mainstream media.

 

When I was first involved in the British National Party around the year 2000, we used to face a public who did believe a lot more in what the media had to say. We were facing a public that had trust in the BBC. That had trust in ITV. And believed what was written in the newspapers, and generally speaking almost every home that I knew of, took a daily paper. That isn’t the case now. I other than my parents I don’t really know anyone who takes a daily paper now. And I also don’t really know anyone who watches the mainstream media.

 

 

The Influence of the Alternative Media

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In fact, more and more people are not paying their TV licence. There is now a huge movement not to pay the TV licence. And we have a President who is saying that the media is the enemy of the people! Even the media admit but trust in the mainstream media is it an all-time low. And they’re constantly complaining that’s, because of Donald Trump, and other people.

 

We even now have a prime minister in Britain who is talking about abolishing the TV licence and giving people the right to choose. The media has less power than it ever did. And the media’s power is also becoming more and more decentralized due to the internet.

 

Now this is not a joke, this is actually a very, very good statistic, but David Duke, somebody who was once painted as the world’s biggest bad guy — and he’s an amazing man, by the way, and a good friend of mine — he’s produced documentaries that have been seen more times than shows aired on prime-time BBC! BBC One and BBC Two have shows that get less viewers, or fewer viewers, than some of his documentaries have had on YouTube.

 

And you have people like big content producers, people like Stefan Molynuex that have produced regular content for years, that gets watched more than shows on cable and Sky.

 

I’ve had YouTube videos that — now disappeared down the memory hole — that have been seen by more than a million people. I did a video about anti-White policies in universities in American and what they led to. That had been seen by over 1.1 million people. And when you look at how many people are watching cable and Sky on an average evening, that dwarfs their viewing figures! And that’s just me producing something using a Blue Yeti mic, Audacity, Corel Draw to make the graphics, and stitching it together in Windows Movie Maker in my spare time!

 

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Dangerfield: Okay, but that’s the propagandizing side, I get that.

 

But I mean, in terms of them knowing what you’re doing, following us wherever, what’s happening. And if they do want to, you know, if they see you as actual opposition, they can hear where we are, they can work out what’s going, they can dig stuff up. Not the propaganda angle, which you just answered eloquently, and convincingly. But in terms of their abilities to listen to us. You know, it’s like weaponizing their own abilities to listen to us. Information!

 

In much the same way you talked about guns, we’ve got YouTube, we can communicate on Telegram, they’ve got listening centres at GCHQ*. They can put together, … I think, I just want to put to you, if they actually considered you a threat, could they not stamp you out in the same way they could with a physical military, using the information they’ve got and the technology they’ve got?

[* Government Communications Headquarters, commonly known as GCHQ, is an intelligence and security organisation responsible for providing signals intelligence and information assurance to the government and armed forces of the United Kingdom.]

 

Mark Collett: The media? No! The media are losing their power, …

 

Dangerfield: No! Sorry. Not the media! Government!

 

 

Brexit and Donald Trump

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Mark Collett: The government have repeatedly shown how inept they are at preventing political movements in this country! The entire government of both parties united against Brexit. The conservatives, other than a few notable MPs, were against for Brexit. Labour Party were against Brexit. The Lib Dems were against Brexit. The SNP were against Brexit. The people weren’t! Won Brexit! Brexit showed that in this information age, … And the mainstream media were largely against Brexit! But Brexit showed in this information age that we cannot simply be crushed.

 

At one point if the BBC which was vehemently anti-Brexit, anti the Leave campaign. If at one point the BBC had been so anti-something, it would have never been passed, because people trusted the BBC. And the BBC is an arm of the government, essentially. It is a state broadcaster. Yet the BBC was anti-Brexit, and Brexit won. That showed that there is not the same trust in the media, there is not the same trust in politicians, and people are willing to think outside the box.

 

 

“We Were Never Asked” Campaign

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And when we went and spoke to people with the “We Were Never Asked” campaign we found that about 2/ 3 of people in Britain — of White people in Britain — do not want to become a minority! And demographics is going to become a bigger, and bigger, issue! And the fact of the matter is that we, as people on the street, are going to be confronted with that more, and more, and more! Because they can’t hide that!

 

See: Laura Towler – We Were Never Asked – Oct 24, 2019 — Transcript

 

At one point they said that White genocide, the “Great Replacement”, it was a conspiracy theory. And they laughed at us! Now, they’re talking about how great it is and that we need to accept it! And that’s what I’m talking about, about the way that information can no longer be withheld. And the fact is you can say to somebody, you could say to a White family in Bradford:

 

“You’re not being replaced! It’s not like they’re coming here and creating their own little ghettos, and excluding you, and attacking your children!”

 

But they live in Bradford. They know exactly what’s happening! And I think the days of this big media power and this information war against us are over! And also the days of simply saying:

 

“You’re Nazis! You’re racists!”

 

Well, you called Donald Trump a Nazi and a racist, so what am I? Am I the British Donald Trump? Is everyone now who doesn’t hate themselves for being White and Nazi and a racist? Well, according to the media, yes! These terms lose their power. The media is losing it’s power. And our way, or one of our ways of winning is using the Internet, but also using leaflets, and using community activism, to bring people together.

 

Because so many normal people out there in the real world are talking about the same sort of things that we’re talking about, but they just haven’t connected with us yet. And when they do connect with us, that’s when you’re going to start to see a popular, community-based movement that brings together the indigenous people for our own good!

 

 

Repatriation of Non-Whites

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Dangerfield: Yep. Fantastic! One of the things with liberalism, it always comes up short when compared to the reality it proposes to talk about.

 

So you mentioned it briefly, I wanted to get on to reparations quickly, because I don’t want to keep it too long. You got your family and it’s the weekend.

 

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Up one of the problems I’ve got when I hear you and Laura and other people talking about reparations, is there tends to be a lack of specific, …

 

Mark Collett: Repatriation!

 

Dangerfield: What has someone had a go at me that you can’t pronounce Patriot right, [laughing] so if you want to go down that road, …

 

Mark Collett: “Reparations” are when you give blacks money, because they feel they have been hard done to! [laughing] repatriation is when you send blacks away, … Very different things there Dangerfield!

 

Dangerfield: Repatriation! Sorry. I get people asking me very specific questions. I think my channel, because of people know where I come from, I am a little bit of an outlier, although I do want England to be ethnic English majority. I want Europeans to maintain their only ancestral homeland, I think people see me as a sort of an entry point that’s a little bit softer perhaps. And a little bit more forgiving, perhaps. I’m going on what is said to me. But a lot of people ask me some very specific questions, and I can’t answer them. So I want to ask you, so that I can, perhaps, answer them.

 

So, what happens, tell me about your “Re-pat-ri-ation Plan”. I really had to say that slowly [laughing], there are too many lols in the chat to make that mistake again! Hang on chat! It was only a minute ago Mark asked if he was the next Donald Trump! [laughing]

 

 

No Reparations!

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Mark Collett: And I’m just gonna reassure people, we don’t have a reparation policy! Patriotic Alternative will NOT be giving billions of taxpayers money to angry migrants, who think they’ve been hard done to, because we’ve given them lots of benefits, nice houses, and free health care!

 

Dangerfield: Damn! Damn! Okay. So you’ve talked before about prisoners. Prisoners will be offered money. People are in prison, immigrants who are in prison, you’ve talked about that. But what are these numbers like? You know, do you know what the numbers are here?

 

Mark Collett: Repatriation is very, very, simple. They’re two types of repatriation; forced repatriation; and voluntary repatriation. Forced repatriation is something that will happen to illegal immigrants, or people living here who have dual citizenship and have broken the law in a very egregious manner. Who have committed serious, serious, offenses! And I think we can all agree that getting rid of criminals and illegal migrants is a good thing!

 

Now British citizens who are not White British and have a claim to other places in the world, have other ancestral homelands, will be given financial benefits to leave. And prisoners, who are British citizens, will be given financial benefits to leave and have sentence is commuted, if they and their families leave. And the figure that we have floated is 15,000 pounds per passport, that we would buy back.

 

And I know what people are going to say, …

 

Dangerfield: No Mark! I know what you’re gonna say, because I’m familiar with this point. And it’s actually cheaper to give a family of six, fifteen grand apiece to go, rather than to pay for them to stay with NHS, and welfare, etc. But how many, … What are the numbers? Let’s say that we got rid of all the people in prison, all the people that broke the law, how many people is that? Because it seems to me, and I don’t know, but, … I

 

Mark Collett: There is over a million illegal immigrants in Britain today.

 

Dangerfield: Okay.

 

Mark Collett: So that’s a large figure.

 

Dangerfield: So there’s the million already. Is that not including prisoners?

 

Mark Collett: Some of those would be in prison, but they would be immediately deported.

 

Dangerfield: So okay, around a million.

 

 

Carrots and Sticks

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Mark Collett: If you look at the prison population, I’m so sure somebody, … Look we don’t know how many people would take the fifteen thousand pounds. But one thing I will say, is it isn’t just 15,000 pounds, because not only wouldn’t we be offering them 15,000 pounds, that’s the “carrot”. But there will also be the “stick”! And the stick is that people who cannot speak English would not be entitled to state benefits, they would not be entitled to free housing, Social care, they wouldn’t be entitled to treatment on the NHS, or education for their children. And as soon as you start to say to people:

 

“You are having these generous benefits rolled back, but we will give you 15,000 pounds to leave. And you can take all your savings with you, and other items. We will assist you.”

 

You know, we wouldn’t just give them 15 grand and make them book their own flight. We would charter flights for them all. We would help them leave with their possessions, and with their money. These people would leave en mass.

 

 

No Halal or Kosher Slaughter

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And they would also be other policies which would help this too. For example, we would ban all halal and kosher slaughter! We are a nation of animal lovers! Jewish kosher slaughter and Islamic halal slaughter are absolutely brutal, cruel, and completely unjustified in a developed nation of animal lovers! These people would not be able to eat their meat in our country! So, if they want to eat that kind of meat they would leave.

 

 

And anyone illegally selling that kind of meat, or preparing that kind of meat, would be punished to the full extent of the law!

 

We would also prevent people who worship in mosques, screaming out of the minarets at 5:00 a.m. In the morning! There would be no calls to prayer! These people would have to obey the letter of our law. There would be no Sharia Courts.

 

We would be starting to investigate people who carry out brutal acts of female genital mutilation. And people who were carrying out those acts, doctors who are carrying out those brutal mutilations would be, again, they would face the same punishments.

 

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And the fact of the matter is, we have not only made this financially very profitable for these people to come here, but we have also bent over backwards, allow them to abuse our better nature, bent our laws to their benefit! And once all of that was rolled back, once this was no longer a cushy little number for these people, fifteen thousand pounds would be very, very, alluring! And somebody said — just now in the chat —:

 

“But they hate their own countries, that’s why they come here.”

 

No they don’t hate their own countries! Because many of these people who come here, many of these so-called asylum seekers, and “refugees”, choose to holiday in the country they fled! There have been cases of asylum seekers, and “refugees” flying back to the war zone they fled from, to visit their family, or to get married and bring a wife over with them, once they’ve secured a passport!

 

In fact, there’s a huge amount of emigration into Britain is done via forced marriage. And people go to places like Pakistan and India, they take part in a forced marriage, they bring their bride over. And then they breed! Then they go back and get a second wife and bring her over and they breed more, and more, and more! And this is a major problem!

 

And that’s something else we would be cracking down on, honor killings, forced marriages! All of these things are not our values! Our values have always been opposed to that! It’s against the law to have more than one wife, yet the government turns a blind eye to Muslim men with multiple wives, who have mouthed these wives in Sharia Courts. This is not our way of life, and we shouldn’t be tolerating it!

 

And by the time all of that’s finished with, you we’ll have a small amount of migrants left in the UK. And those people will be the best of the migrant population. They will be people who have fitted in. They will be people who speak the language, whose children go to our schools, do very well. They will be people who hold good jobs.

 

But all of the people who are creating the problems, all of the people who are part of these grooming gangs, all of the people who riot, mug, carry out machete attacks, they will be leaving, because life in Britain will no longer be a gravy train for them. And we won’t be tolerating their criminality and anti-British bile!

 

Dangerfield: Yeah, fantastic! Again, very convincing, very white-pilling! I was saying to someone the other day, at the moment it’s a very welcoming place. They know that we bend over backwards to accommodate them. They know how our laws work. They know how our media allow them to get away with almost anything. Once a country is known to be hostile to such acts, and hostile to such behaviors, on a cultural level. Doesn’t even have to be legal yet, just on a cultural level, well I think, very quickly England, England would be a less attractive place to go to.

 

 

Media and the Promotion of Race-Mixing

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Alright let’s get on to the very sticky subject of “mixed-race” people. I’m an English national. Let’s assume I have some mixed-race English-Cambodian babies, can I come back to England and live there?

 

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Mark Collett: Yes, look, I’m not gonna start saying to people that you can’t date who you want to date. My problem with race-mixing, is the vast majority of people wouldn’t do it. A few people would do it. And that’s their choice. I believe racial race-mixing is largely unnatural, because most people want to be with their own. There are a few outliers who don’t want to be with their own.

 

But the fact of the matter is there is an aggressive policy by the media, by the establishment, and by our government, to promote racially mixed relationships, as an ideal! And that is being done on a genocidal level! And it is vastly reducing, again, the indigenous population. And it is serving to breed us out in our own homeland.

 

I don’t have any problem with what you get up to with the woman you love! But I don’t want to see the “idea”, or the “lifestyle”, of the racially mixed couple being pushed as the “ideal” for everybody in society! Because I want a homogeneous, ethnic, community.

 

And you only have to walk, … My largest, my nearest, really large city is Leeds. Now when you go around Leeds, you can walk around Primark, you can walk around Topshop, you can walk around H&M, walk around any of those big stores and the models are always paired up as a White woman and a non-White male! Now it’s not 1 in 10, it’s not 3 in 10, it’s not half-and-half, but it’s nearly a hundred percent of these adverts!

 

See: Mark Collett — Christmas Adverts – Multicultural Propaganda — TRANSCRIPT

 

We saw Christmas adverts a few years ago, where every single, major, grocery retailer in Britain ran an advert with mixed-race couples, front and center! That is not just a coincidence! That is a premeditated plot to push a political agenda!

 

And we’re in the middle of this coronavirus pandemic, and the other day I saw a poster about washing your hands. And if you showed me washing my hands, my hands are both White, yet on this poster one hand was White and one hand was black, and they were washing each other!

 

They even put this in public information documents! Now if one set of hands was a White set of hands, one set of hands was sort of a obviously a set of hands belonging to somebody from the Indian subcontinent, and one set of hands belonging to somebody from Africa, I would understand that. But to have a White hand washing a black hand, they pushing the agenda everywhere you go! And you see it on the TV! You see it in adverts! And now adverts spend more money trying to push this political agenda than they actually do advertising the products they’re meant to want you to buy! It’s so absurd!

 

And if you are of mixed race origin and you live here in Britain, you obviously have claim to Britain, and you have claim to somewhere else. However if you are a productive member of society as I said earlier, fifteen thousand pounds means very, very little to you.

 

However if you are falling on the other side of that divide, and you identify more with your African heritage, you are part of some street gang, you are in prison, you might well choose to have your sentence commuted, take fifteen thousand pounds and go somewhere else in the world. It’s as simple as that!

 

 

Working with Non-Whites

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But if you came to our conference the other day, which nearly 200 people did, that was the biggest gathering of its kind in over a decade, right? It was fantastic! But there were people there who weren’t of indigenous descent. There were people there from the Indian subcontinent, there were people there who were mixed-race, there were people from all over Europe. There were people who came from as far as America.

 

So not everyone who was there was White British. But everyone there was committed to the idea that the indigenous people of these islands should remain the overwhelming majority! And also should not become second-class citizens! And I work with people who aren’t of European descent, and I happily work with them. I regularly speak to Ralph [Masilamani] from — who does the channel Right Reaction — the guy who speaks of Speakers Corner. He’s an incredible guy!

 

I regularly speak to him and work with Shazia Hobbs, a lovely woman! And I’m not gonna name drop all of the people who just came to the conference as individuals.

 

I was on a chat the other day with “Wake Up UK”, and there was a lovely mixed-race gentleman on there. And I invited him to the next conference. And he said he’d love to come. And I said get your suit shirt, get down, you know, and come and enjoy what we’re building. And yeah, put your cravat on! [laughing].

 

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We are not haters! We just love our own, and don’t want to be reduced to a minority on our ancestral homeland. And for too long ethno-nationalism has allowed itself to be defined by its enemies! And have played up to this idea but we should be these big, scary, boot boys who want to bring about our ideal vision via violence. And what we are doing is we are professionalizing ethno-nationalism, and showing people that this is not about hate for anyone else. This is about love for our own.

 

 

For Britain Party Supporting Middle East Wars

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And actually we are less violent than the Civic nationalists, because the civic nationalists at the moment, or very recently, we’re talking about blowing Iran to smithereens! I saw people from “For Britain” who are civic nationalists talking about flattening Iran! I’m there saying:

 

“No! Do! Not flatten Iran! Iran is a sovereign nation full of men, women, and children, who deserve to be left alone. The people of Iran are no threat to the people of Britain, when they’re in Iran!”

 

What I want to stop is millions of people from the Middle East coming here colonizing Britain, and threatening our people! This world is big enough for everyone. But, everyone doesn’t have to live in Britain. You know, let the Middle East be for Muslims. Let Africa be for the Africans. Let the Orient be for the Orientals. But let Europe be for the Europeans! That’s not a message of hate, it’s a message of love!

 

Dangerfield: Yeah.

 

 

Ethno-Nationalism for All Peoples the World Over

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Mark Collett: We are branding ethno-nationalism, and everyone the world over, who is an ethno-nationalism should be preaching this same positive message!

 

And I am very, very, happy to have people from different racial groups attend our meetings, if they agree with us. But what we don’t want, is we don’t want people who are going to pick somebody from another ethnic group and put them up as guest speaker to make a point to own the Left.

 

The guest speakers will be people have earned their position as guest speaker. We don’t want people at our meeting like these Civic nationalists, who want to fight wars for Israel in the Middle East, and see our soldiers be blown to smithereens, and then see millions more migrants have to come here as refugees. We want a world that is peaceful, where everyone has their place, but everyone’s place isn’t in these islands!

 

Dangerfield: Yeah. I always say, as a nationalist, I’ll defend any nation to have what it has as it’s own. And it’s kind of weird, because nationalists end up actually supporting diversity. If you start getting rid of national borders, give it under 200 years there’s one world type of person!

 

And going back to what you said about the promotion of race-mixing. I mean, I always say this to people. I say I’m an outlier, and most people don’t want to breed outside their own. And I agree with you there. But in all the marketing I see almost always, almost always, White woman black man! Very rarely, the other way round. They can’t breed with our women, you’ll be alright! And it’s shocking! You know, my in real life job is in e-commerce, and the other day I counted nine separate platforms that was black man White woman.

 

And yeah I’m absolutely with you! The promotion of it, … Someone asked me in my stream earlier what I think about the gays. And it’s the same point. I don’t think about the gays! We’ve always gonna have them, they’ve always been about. But I don’t want it promoted! And I think that was your argument there.

 

Oi, get your head out the chat Collett! You said this wasn’t like having a party at your own house! And I can tell, when your nose is at that 45 degree angle south-southwest [laughing]

 

Mark Collett: Sorry!

 

Dangerfield: Sometimes watching your stream I can see you reading the chat, No White Guilt reading the chat! I’m like any of these people listening to the guest?

 

Mark Collett: I get roasted! I get roasted for not reading the chat! I get angry emails from people, …

 

Dangerfield: Yeah, but not in my stream! You are meant to be relaxing!

 

Mark Collett: Well, I’m really getting into this, so sorry. I am really enjoying myself though, and the chat is being extremely kind.

 

 

Anne Marie Waters, for Britain — a Zio Shill Outfit

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Dangerfield: Good stuff here. Okay, last point. Where did I want to go, … Oh yeah, you hinted, you touched on it. Anne Marie Waters, For Britain! A lot of people come to me — don’t smile just yet — a lot of people come to me and they think that it’s a vote splitter, … Is it a “pay-triot” or is it “pat-triot”? I keep getting pulled up on it.

 

Mark Collett: Whatever you want to call it.

 

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Dangerfield: “Repatriation” I’ll call it! People keep coming up to me and they’re saying it’s gonna split the patriot movement. I want to know what you think about Anne Marie Waters [born 1977, Dublin] , not her as a person — sorry that was badly put — but what do you think about For Britain? Where are they going wrong? Where are they going right? Let me know what you think about them.

 

 

Mark Collett: Well, For Britain do have some very good members. And numerous of their members were actually at our conference a couple of weeks ago. In fact, several people who were very key to their organization, are writing to me, coming to our events, and they’re very interested in what we are doing. In fact, I’m not gonna name him, but everyone knows who was at our conference, and he’s a very, very, key member of For Britain! In fact, he’s possibly, other than Anne-Marie Waters, their most famous member! And he was actually at our conference.

 

 

Counter Jihad Movement is a Puppet for the Zionist Lobby

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These people, or many of them, understand the increasing problem is demographics. And Anne Marie Waters, she talks some very, very, common-sense things about grooming, about Islam. But, she is part of the Counter Jihad movement. And we know, that the Counter Jihad movement is a puppet for the zionist lobby. And I find it very interesting that they call themselves “For Britain” when really there for Israel!

 

And I think she really showed herself up, let herself down, when she advocated for “regime change” in Iran.

 

Now I’ve been involved — everyone knows — for about two decades in this cause, and we as nationalists have always been the anti-war movement. We were the anti-war movement before the Second World War. We were the anti-war movement when we went to war with Afghanistan, when we went to war with Iraq! And with the anti-war movement now! And we are the anti-war movement, because, like you said, we actually do stand for diversity. We want a diverse world! A world where everybody, everybody has their place! And I can’t get on board with people who are taking half measures.

 

 

“Legal” Immigration of Non-Whites is the Problem

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Anne-Marie Waters says there will be a stop on immigration for five years. Okay, so what, we’re gonna be a minority in 2071 now, not 2066? Slow hand clap! You know, they’re not talking about the people living here. They keep talking about “legal migration”.

 

Well fact-check guys! Every one, or the vast majority, of these Muslim gangs in places like Telford, Rotherham, South Manchester, that have done these terrible things to our girls, are British citizens! Well that was legal migration. And where has it got us! It’s not got us anywhere! Legal migration hasn’t been good for us.

 

Look at the young people of African descent, the “youths” in places like London, running around stabbing people, carrying out machete attacks, off the back of mopeds! Look at the acid attacks!

 

A lot of the people, the vast majority of the people, committing these crimes are again “British citizens”. How is this “legal” migration working out for us? It isn’t!

 

And the narrow, foolish, and very naive notion, that somebody can come here from another part of the world, where the average IQ is some three, four, five standard deviations lower, from a culture where people settle their differences with a machete, and then put on an Adidas tracksuit, a pair of Nike trainers, and live on a council estate, but, because they’ve got a little maroon booklet [passport] that says British citizen, they’ll immediately be like us, that’s insanity! It doesn’t work like that! And it’s not working!

 

And all I’m saying is, as demographics becomes a bigger issue, this silly Counter Jihad movement, is going to be exposed for exactly what it is! This Counter Jihad movement is going to be shown up for the morally bankrupt, zio shilling organisation that it really is! Because, …

 

Dangerfield: So what you’re saying, oh sorry, go on, …

 

Mark Collett: I was just going to say, and everything they talk about is downstream from what I’m talking about. These Islamic problems in our nation, … Because Muslims aren’t a problem in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, they’re not a problem in Iran, or Saudi Arabia, they’re a problem when they get here!

 

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When they’re herding goats with an AK-47 slung over their shoulder in Afghanistan, that isn’t something that he’s gonna bother young girls in Rotherham! When they’re owning kebab shops, or driving taxis in Rotherham that is a threat to girls in Rotherham!

 

The fact of the matter is, this Islamic problem that people like Anne-Marie Waters loves to talk about, and hang her hat on, is only a problem, because of the demographic change! It’s only a problem, because of the things that we’re exposing!

 

The fact is, if it wasn’t for this demographic change, we wouldn’t have this Islamic problem. And that basically, solving our problems, starts and really ends, with solving the demographic issue.

 

Dangerfield: So, stay with me, stay with me! [laughing] So to summarize if people think that Anne-Marie Waters, For Britain is splitting the patriot votec for lack of a better word, is because they don’t fully understand the differences between the two organizations?

 

 

Patriotic Alternative is the Natural Home for Patriots

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Mark Collett: Yeah, and there’s plenty of good people in For Britain, but their natural home is with Patriotic Alternative. Their natural home is at our conferences, our meetings, in our community. If you love the indigenous people of these islands, and if you want to preserve the indigenous people of these islands, if you want a future for White children in these islands, you have to be on board with the ethno-nationalist cause!

 

And when it comes to the ethno-nationalist cause Patriotic Alternative is the way forward! It has united all of the biggest content creators in this country! They’re all on board! You see them in the chat, you see them about conferences. We are building that big tent. And it is filled with people, and positivity.

 

 

Superchats: Stefan Molyneux, British Army, Halal Slaughter, Way of the World

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Dangerfield: Yep! Agreed. Okay, we’ve been going for an hour and a half. It’s flown by! This has been fantastic. I will put the Superchat questions to now. Someone who’s done this enough times, yourself, I might have to edit a couple. But we will have a look at them.

 

Okay, how do I get these in order? Don’t let me down now Entropy. Oh yay, yay. Okay, here we go from G White:

 

“Mark what do you make of Stefan Molyneux?”

 

I think Stefan Molyneux is an interesting character, because he’s obviously on a bit of a red pill journey, and sometimes he let’s on just how much he knows, and goes into a little bit of a meltdown naming a certain tribe of people on Twitter! But then he feels he may have gone a step too far, and tries to dial it back. And it’s quite interesting he takes two steps forward and one step back. But he’s getting there. And he does do some good work. And I’d love to chat with him, or debate with him.

 

Okay. In terms of ethnic minorities joining Patriot Alternative?

 

Mark Collett: I’ve already talked about that. They’re welcome!

 

Dangerfield: Okay. Brilliant. Okay, there’s a lot of compliments for you, but they don’t make great questions. And in Entropy. Letting me down a little bit. Okay. People really liking you here.:

 

“How we talk about this and not be called racist?”

 

I think you’ve already covered that as well.

 

 

Demographics is Everything

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Mark Collett: Yeah, you’ve just got to shoulder it. And you’ve got to speak, … Look if you’re talking to somebody, talk to them on their level. If they’re concerned about the fact the number of hedgehogs in Britain is declining rapidly, well the reason the number of hedgehogs in Britain is declining so rapidly, the reason the hedgehog population has been decimated, is, because we’re building on every little patch of green space, because of mass immigration, and the immigrant birthrate. Everything ties back to demographics!

 

See: Malleate – Bullet Free Genocide – Weaponized Migration – Nov 22, 2019 — Transcript

 

The problems with the NHS! The problems with the education system! The problem with the benefit system! The problem with criminality, with grooming! It’s all downstream from demographics. Tie everything back and speak to people about the things they are interested in.

 

Dangerfield: JT Smith just wants me to give a big hello to you! There you go JT.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you very much. He’s always in the chat. Fantastic chap.

 

Dangerfield: Yeah, he’s a great lad. Ian Hay, who was a soldier, says:

 

“Mark you’re wrong about our soldiers. We would never turn our guns on our own people.”

 

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Mark Collett: Well, with all due respect, as I said, earlier, at one point the British public believed that the police would always protect and serve. The British public looked up to the police, local police officers were very much heroes and pillars of the community. And now the British police protect the men, and in some cases women, who are abusing our children. And they also arrest, harass, and jail, people who try to stop that abuse.

 

And when you look at what’s happened to the police force, the same will happen to the military. I believe that years ago the police are upstanding people. I believe that the majority of people who join the British Army do so for the right reasons, because they are patriots, and because they love their country. However, what has happened to the police is now happening with the army.

 

And I know people who have been in the army. I know people who left the Army due to the political correctness! And I know people who are forced out, because of the political correctness! And what has happened to every facet of the state and the establishment, will also happen to the military.

 

And I believe the guy who left this Superchat is obviously a good man, he’s here, he’s listening. And I believe that him and his friends when they served the military was probably very different to what it is now. But please, please, any arm of the state will orientate itself in a way that is not to our best interests!

 

Dangerfield: Okay. This is a bit of a strangely made point from Pinhead Luke, but he says:

 

“There’s no difference with Halal. It’s still stunned before death.

 

Mark Collett: No, no! Halal meat is not stunned! The animals have their throats slit, and they are hung up by their back legs, and that un-stunned form of halal [Arabic word meaning “permissible or lawful”] is what would be illegal. And if you look into this you will find that there is also a major issue in different parts of the world with the profits from un-stunned halal going toward terrorism and the kind of Islamic community building which has left so many scars up and down this country.

 

Dangerfield: Okay. All right. Not too many more. I’ve had you a while, hang on. Mavis just said:

 

“Tell Mark he’s doing great work, and she has thanks for the future. Lucy Bostock.”

“Mark are you going to use the census in 2021 as an opportunity? And what is the safest way of meeting like-minded people?”

 

Mark Collett: Well firstly, I’ll give you the answer, the easy part of that answer. And the safest way to meet like-minded people is to sign up to Patriotic Alternative. At the moment we are having a few problems with the website, because we are just putting up the brand-new website today. And there’s always a few technical glitches. So don’t be alarmed if it doesn’t come up straight away.

 

But the best place to meet people is at our events and gatherings. Get on board! If it wasn’t for this coronavirus we would be holding local meetings now, and setting up more regional organizers. We already have three, and we want an organizer in every region by the end of the year. Now, on to the other question, which was, …

 

Dangerfield: One second Mark. Can I also just suggest she has a look at “Way of the World’s” video, and “Nat Connect”, that is also a good way of meeting like-minded people. Way of the World’s Nat Connect.

 

See: Way of the World – How Nationalism WINS – Mar 22, 2020 — Transcript

 

Mark Collett: Way of the World is amazing, by the way, I think he’s in the chat tonight. He’s a very good friend of mine. The guy is really a hero to our people. And his content is superb.

 

But the other part of a question was about the census. And yes we will be using the census data. But at the moment you can look at the birth data, I think it’s either in England, or in England and Wales and it’s from the Office of National Statistics. Now this is very, very, important, because the Office of National Statistics reports on live births.

 

And when you look at live births it’s either in England, or in England and Wales. And live births in that area, make up the majority of live births in the British Isles. And if you look at the data it says that 59% — this was in 2018 — 59% of live births in either England, or England and Wales, are White British. That means 41% of the births are not of people who are indigenous to these islands! When you look at that, and when you look at the immigration statistics. And again in the last year we have statistics for 379,000 people came to Britain legally, from non EU countries!

 

Okay? This is very, very worrying. And I think the census will be very important for us. However if you look at, as I say, the recordings of live births and the immigration figures, we can already see a pattern emerging. And that pattern is very, very worrying!

 

[95:01]

 

 

Can We Win?

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Dangerfield: Fantastic! Couple more I think. Oh what if you’re right, … Sorry I just lost someones and they’re gonna go mad. Okay I’ve come to the end of those. Mark, before I let you go, is this gonna happen? I am involved in this, I make content every day. I spend most of my free time reading material, investing in this, looking at historical examples. That’s the area I struggle with. There’s not a lot of historical examples to fill me with hope.

 

But, you know, I’ve changed over the last four years of making content to get to where I am. I’ve seen the numbers expand colossally! I’ve listened to you, who’s been around for decades doing this. And people like Jared Taylor talked about this growth. And sometimes I am very positive. But sometimes I’m not! Is this gonna happen? Can we achieve this? I know you’re coming, …

 

Mark Collett: Can we win?

 

Dangerfield: Yeah, but I want you to tell me why.

 

Mark Collett: Well, of course, we can win, of course, we can win! We can win! There’s always a chance of winning! You can win the lottery. You can go out and buy a lottery ticket and win. There is always a percentage chance, no matter how small of victory.

 

However, am I going to promise you victory? I am NOT going to promise you victory! Because I can’t make that guarantee. And the several things I’m not going to do. Now I have been sort of thrust into this position, of a leader of sorts. I hate to call myself a leader, because this isn’t about me. This is about community. And I’ve said that from day one! And my book says that. All my shows say that. I said that at Patriotic Alternative conference.

 

Mark Collett’s book: www.thefallofwesternman.com

 

But as people look to me, as some sort of leader, I will say this. There’s two things I’m not going to do. The first, well there’s lots of things I’m not going to do. But two major things that I want to discuss now, that I’m not gonna do.

 

The first is I am NOT gonna promise people something that I am NOT a hundred percent sure that I can deliver on.

 

And secondly I am NOT gonna hit people with dates! How many nationalist leaders have said:

 

“I will take you to victory, but we must achieve it by the next election, or all is lost!”

 

That is such total BS! And I’ve seen leaders of the nationalist movement in this country do this time, and time, and time, again!:

 

“I will bring your victory! But to do it, it must be done by 2004! By 2009! By 2014!”

 

And all these dates past. The apocalypse doesn’t happen, victory hasn’t been achieved, but we still got a chance!

 

However I will promise you something from the bottom of my heart, that I can guarantee will happen! And I hope it’ll be good enough for you all. I promise you that I will give everyone who puts their trust in me, the best that I can give them! I promise I will never give up! I promise I will always do my best to represent you. I promise I will always put my best foot forward. I promise I’ll always be here to listen to you and take on board your criticisms, your hopes, your fears. I will keep answering your emails. I will work hard.

 

And above all else I promise you that we as a community will give it our best shot! And I also promise you something even better! That if come, some dark day, we do become a minority, I promise you that we will stand together as a community, and weather that storm together!

 

And I can’t promise you anything more. But I can also say this. If you want to win, if you want to achieve victory, if you want the indigenous people to remain a majority, you have to meet me halfway and get on board! You have to be part of the resistance! You have to be part of the community! And that is the best I can offer.

 

And I know that so many of you have been so kind, you’ve been so gracious towards me, people have given me so much of their time and energy. And I will keep serving you as best I can, until either I am no longer here, or somebody better comes along to replace me.

 

And there aren’t many people who have ever been in a position like I am today that would be that honest! And I hope that honesty means something. Because as I say, I do from the bottom of my heart, thank you all! And I do ultimately believe that we can win! If we stand together we can win!

 

Because our people, people of European descent, what haven’t we won? We’ve weathered the greatest storms, we built the greatest civilization the world has ever seen. Why is it that we have to be defeated? This isn’t all written. This isn’t all ready decided. We have more than a fighting chance, as we’ve always done!

 

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Dangerfield: Amazing! Brilliant! And what a very convincing performance you’ve put on tonight! Thank you very much Mark for speaking to me.

 

Before I let you go, just a quick one. What can people do, apart from signing up to Patriotic Alternative, what can people do in their daily lives to help the cause?

 

Mark Collett: In your daily life be the best person you can be. Love yourself. Love people within this community. And improve yourself. Remember, in your blood, the blood that runs in your veins, is the same blood, as the blood that ran in the veins of the people that built this civilization.

 

Your blood is the same as the blood of the people that put a man on the moon, that painted the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, that built the Eiffel Tower, the Leaning Tower of Pisa, that built St Paul’s Cathedral. We have in us the blood of heroes! The blood of the people that defined everything that makes the world so great! Because the European spirit civilized not just Europe, but everywhere! And we exported our genius and our brilliant nature to every corner of the earth!

 

And when you realize you’re that special, when you realize you have that much potential, hidden inside you, why should you just sit there playing Xbox? Why should you just waste away and be a second-class citizen?

 

You can be anybody you want to be! You can get that job! You can date that beautiful woman! You can go out there and achieve amazing feats! And enemy’s want you to give up hope. And a great man, a great pilot, called Hans Rudel, once said:

 

“Only he is lost, who gives himself up for lost. Believe in yourself, because victory is inside you!”

 

And if we all believe that, we all stood together, we would win this hands down without a problem. Just go out there and be who you want to be, and make a change. Because the most important change you can make initially, is within you. And when you become the best version of you, and you start achieving great things, people will notice. And people will gather around you. People will flock to you. And they’ll say:

 

“How did you do that?”

 

And you can say:

 

“I did it, because I’m a nationalist, because I love my people, and because I believe in the European spirit!”

 

And that positivity is the best way to win other people over to our cause. That is how you can make a change for yourself, for your loved ones, for your community, and for our people.

 

Dangerfield: Mark, thank you very much for speaking with me tonight.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you so much. It’s been a real pleasure. We’ve had you on my show before, and I hope one day you will actually honor the pledge you made to me and come running with me in the snow Jew [laughing]

 

Dangerfield: When I get back to England maybe. King Athelstan, I’ll deal with that offline, because it’s a weird one to end on, but I’ll talk to you later.

 

Mark, thank you very much! I hope you enjoyed it people, had over a thousand people in here for the duration. I think Mark was fantastic tonight!

 

I will talk to you all soon. Hang on a couple of seconds Mark. I just have a little chat with you afterwards. Take care of yourselves, and enjoy your weekend. Goodbye!

 

[104:40]

 

 

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See Also

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See Also — Mark Collett Transcripts

 

 

Mark Collett — It’s Okay To Be White — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett — Christmas Adverts – Multicultural Propaganda — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett — What We Must Do To Win — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett — Assad Didn’t Do It – Faked Syrian Gas Attack — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett — The Plot to Flood Europe with 200 Million Africans — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett — The jewish Question Explained in Four Minutes — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett at The Scandza Forum, Copenhagen – Oct 12, 2019 — Transcript

Patriotic Weekly Review – with Blair Cottrell – Dec 4, 2019 — TRANSCRIPT

Dangerfield – Talking Tough with Mark Collett – Mar 28, 2020 — Transcript

 

 

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