[Alain Soral, a leading French dissident, talks about his association with Robert Faurisson and the impact that his Revisionist work had on him, awakening him to the power of organized jewry and their persecution of anyone who doesn’t bow down and worship their “Shoah”.

NOTE: The English voice-over in the video is provided by the talented musician Alison Chabloz, another admirer of the late Faurisson, and who expresses her disbelief of those historical lies through stinging satirical songs!

— KATANA.]

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Alain Soral

My Homage to

Robert Faurisson

Oct 2018

Click the link below to view the video:

https://alisonchabloz.com/2018/10/29/alain-soral-my-homage-to-robert-faurisson/

Alison Chabloz’s Description

Published on October 29, 2018

Of the many moving tributes following the recent death of Robert Faurisson, the video below is one of the most pertinent I have seen so far. Using today’s technology — featuring a mise en scène and dresscode worthy of note and which would certainly have met with Robert Faurisson’s approval — Alain Soral regales viewers with his in-a-nutshell analysis of the crucial importance of historical revisionism and the inestimable contribution made by Robert Faurisson.

Alain Soral is the founder of Égalité et Réconciliation, the leading dissident publication in France with seven million monthly clicks. He is also head of the publishing house Kontre Kulture. Mr Soral kindly granted me permission to translate his incisive impromptu text and redistribute the video below with voiceover in English. You can find the original here.

Many thanks to all who continue to support the revisionist cause.

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TRANSCRIPT

(19:24)

[00:31]

Well, it brings great sadness, as well as the end of an era. I could talk about this in different ways, but I’d like to use the occasion to try and make others understand how one might come to the Revisionist’s school of thought. Because this sensibility, which eventually leads to asking questions and to looking into the professor’s work, needs to be explained. I wish to emphasis that I’m sad that he’s gone. At the same time I’ve been in his company fairly often recently.

And just to note that Égalité et Réconciliation supported him by way of my barrister, as well as ensuring his security. And he was surrounded by friendship and affection. Friends presented him with the “Quenelle d’or”, the “Golden Quenelle” awarded to him by Dieudonne. And he sent me a very kind voice mail.

Now that he’s gone, aside from the Revisionist’s combat, we can say we accompanied him, I think, with warm and tender affection right to the end. And that is really important. He was someone, how to put it, we simply can’t imagine what he had to suffer! Ten times worst than what I was subjected to. And admittedly I sometimes have trouble keeping my calm.

There’s a price to pay for the organism, physically and psychologically. And he was someone who needed to be surrounded by love and affection in order to bring some kind of balance. I insist that not withstanding his combat, which is non-debatable, because we do not have the right to debate it, let’s say it as it is.

Apart from his non-debatable combat, there was the whole human aspect that was extremely important. And here I must mention Dieudonne. Dieudonne did a lot, a lot for Robert Faurisson.

Perhaps I also did a lot in order that Dieudonne found out about Faurisson, which some people reproached me for. But how could I be ashamed of that? He’s someone we accompanied during his final years, which was very important because he succeeded in transferring his combat to another generation. Meaning there were people who were interested in him, from the 1970s onwards, and in the generations that followed, 20 or 20 years down the line. People do burn out, but thanks to Dieudonne the younger generation became interested in Professor Faurisson.

If we look at his trials which took place toward is the end of his life, he was surrounded by people in their 20s and 30s. And it was a fountain of youth which he found both very useful and agreeable. That is the first aspect.

[03:10]

Now, let’s talk about Revisionism in a more fundamental way. How does one arrive at the point of becoming interested in his work? From my part, it so happened that I came to Paris with no knowledge of any of these issues. And I believed that reality corresponded to what I saw on TV and at the cinema in war films broadcast in continuity on TV channels, since I was a child.

The Second World War, the Germans, the Allies, the Resistance, the Americans. What we were shown in the cinema, a world with goodies and baddies. Aged twenty I firmly believed in all that!

And then I arrived in the capital, Paris, where I immediately became part of society, that might be referred to as the “superstructure”. First of all fashion, then journalism, publishing, and cinema.

And there I met members of a powerful community, which, by way of its own psychological interactions, bore no resemblance to those people of that particular community as depicted in Hollywood films. And therefore at one point I told myself, either there are two different categories when it comes to this kind of people, or else I’ve been sold something which doesn’t really correspond to reality.

And at that moment, one of those times when things seem to happen for a reason, by chance, I think, in 1983 I discovered a certain professor, whose work was based on alternative theories relating to critical studies of historical events.

And who was trying to show that the history of the “good and evil”, this caricature of “goodies and baddies” wasn’t quite as clear cut as that. And I became interested.

Just as I was interested in lots of other things. For example, the question of the workers struggle according to Marx. Questions of nationalism, by way of nationalist thinkers. I’ve always looked at things from all sides.

And I became fascinated at that time with Revisionism. And back then it wasn’t on the internet! It was physical. I went foraging at Laveletor [sp]. And there, I discovered a place which needed iron bars on its shop front, because of attacks by militants. And it’s there I learned that there weren’t only jews who were victims.

There were cultural jews and artistic jews. But there were also aggressive and violent leagues, thuggish and vitriolic with no concern for the debate of ideas.

We are here, present. Proud, noble and cruel jews. We’re well trained, We’re well-equipped. We are utterly fearless. Our enemies are more afraid of us than we are of them.

So I discovered the other side of the story. I discovered other kinds of jews, than the ones portrayed by the American film industry. Ultra-violent zionist jews shunning all debate! And I also discovered people who studied history dispassionately, with far fewer ideological overtones. And that things were far more complicated than they appeared.

Professor Faurisson never spoke about “the truth”. And he was vigorous in his conviction that only God knows the truth. And that it always boiled down to a question of opinion.

Faurisson: I am not looking exactly for what people call “truth”. Because I think that “truth” is too vague and pretentious. What I am looking for is “exactitude”. And for me history is to try to be exact! To deliver, to try to find some little truths that I can verify.

On the other hand, he stood firmly by what he called “exactitude”. The violence that he was subjected to is proportional to the thoroughness of his work. If his work had been more approximative and ideological, rather than exemplifying exactitude, it would have been easier to counter him on the grounds of exactitude, meaning serious historiography.

But he was exact to such a point that it was necessary to quietly usher in a vote, in summer, when there was no Deputies around, and naturally under the usual pressure from special interest groups, which led to the adoption of the totally iniquitous law prohibiting the study of a certain period in history, covering the years 1933 to 1945 and establishing, once and for all “history and truth revealed”!

Conclusions of the Nuremberg tribunals, which was the victors tribunal in the context of the immediate after war with high stakes, tensions, sufferings and overwhelming emotion, which might well be understandable at that particular moment in time.

[08:00]

But it would have been more logical, from a historical point of view, that the longer we had waited after these events, then the stakes might not have been quite so high, and we could have moved from ideology towards historiography and allowed historians to work with more hindsight.

However we went from the ideology of the victors to the ideology of “remembrance”. From the political to the religious.

“The Shoah, the extermination of the jews, the genocide, must be sacralized, … Sacred.”

And therefore I became interested in the work of Professor Faurisson, and in Revisionism in general. And from then on, I would say that my life changed definitively! I realized that the world of good and evil was a bit more complicated than that. And that those who dominate us weren’t necessarily synonymous with good. I mean the we hadn’t been victorious simply because we were the kindest, or more honest. I realized that evil was everywhere and that relative good was everywhere too.

I also realized that talking about it was eminently dangerous. And that if you did talk about it, you were immediately doomed to integral marginalization. And my marginalization, whether in film, or in journalism, before I had even spoken a word in public, sprang from the fact that my Revisionist readings and my conversations at the dining table about Revisionism became common knowledge. I practiced the same naivety as many other people who are naive by way of their own innate honesty.

I talked about the work of Robert Faurisson at dinner with people from the fashion, media, and film industries, telling them they ought to interested. I remember once saying the same to Eric Zemmour.

“You should take a look and read what he says! It’s interesting. It’s much more interesting than people like to believe, and what people say.”

I was totally naive! That’s how I came to be interested in the work of the Professor. And at first I was interested in Revisionism itself, without any concern for the actual person. Once I discovered the extraordinary persecution he had been subjected to, which shocked me further still, because when we talk about political prisoners in distant lands, the torture, and the conviction of political dissidents, we are always ready to lend a hand with reporters without borders, to mobilize in the name of far-away suffering.

And yet no French intellectual, no French journalist have ever publicly condemned the unbelievable persecution!

Right up to attempted murder! Of which Professor Faurisson was victim, along with Revisionists in general, imprisoned whether in Germany, Canada, or the US, simply for having produced research results, including scientific research results! Right, we’ll change the subject because it’s prohibited by law to talk about these issues!

[10:43]

For all the free speech hypocrites I mentioned earlier, have the guts to talk about the persecution suffered by Robert Faurisson during his life! For having had the audacity to work according to the principles of exactitude, concerning a sequence in history, which we are no longer allowed to study. That has been mythologized, sacrialized, in order to create a religion. Because, let me remind you, that Revisionists are reproached for blasphemy! For daring to discuss “revealed truths”. And this proves that the “Shoah” has become a religion.

(November 2013 — Proces Faurisson/Arianne Chemin)

 

“F*ck you! You’re Nazis! You spit on the memory of millions of dead!”

Anti-revisionism has become the State religion. And we see the same violence and the same debate denial on the part of anti-revisionists, as we see from religious extremists, and notably from those fingered by Zemmour, radical Islamists. The same levels of violence, the same refusal and denial of others. And I think we should criticise anti-revisionism as much as we criticise Daesh’s Islam, which never happens! That would show intellectual steadfastness, moral standing, and coherence. Few people are brave enough to be coherent. Coherence means paying the highest price.

Eventually I did meet the Professor with Dieudonne. And there, I met a man who was completely devoid of violence, or hatred, despite everything that had happened to him. Which is quite extraordinary as we are talking about religion here. He was full of good companionship and humour. English humour, let’s say because he was of Scottish origin. Not shy of laughing out loud! And of such kindness and devoid of any hatred. That is what I found.

And I also sensed that he was stricken with excruciating pain, and that what he had suffered was absolutely horrid! And I say, that I will never forget the Professor’s work, his personality, the persecution he suffered, those who persecuted him — who still persecute him, even on the moment of his death.

And who will continue to persecute him, despite his death. And I believe this is the true task of remembrance.

Furthermore, I think that France as a nation, and as a people, will only be free once the unique and iniquitous Gayssot Law falls. As Vincent Reynouard puts it very well:

“There is no chance of a nationalist revival, or feeling of nationalist pride, as long as historical Revisionism is forbidden.”

All the rest is lies, smoke and mirrors! And if day France becomes France again, not only will the Gayssot Law will have fallen, but at that moment in France, there will be no streets named aft Eric Zemmour. But there will be streets, or boulevards, even avenues named after Robert Faurisson. And I hope there will be schools named after him too! Because Robert Faurisson was a master, a school master, a master of exactitude, a master of moral rectitude!

And most of all, he was master of what I would call “authentic virility”. He’s the bravest man I have ever met during my lifetime. And he was a slight man, far braver than any of the beefy, loud-mouthed, far-Right joke characters that I have met over the years.

Including, I might add, the man of the “mere detail”, who didn’t have the courage that day to say that this thing is everything but a “mere detail”, because in fact it’s their Golgotha!

It’s the atomic nucleus around which turns the entire system of Western domination, as Maurice Bardèche already understand and discussed in his “Nuremberg”. A book for which I, and I alone, and the editor and republisher.

[14:24]

What else can I say? Perhaps to note that Revisionism is not a topic the relates to the far-Right, contrary the Revisionism’s reduced status according to all the professional liars, whom I shall not describe here. Historical Revisionism began on the Left by Rassinier and his two books, “Crossing the Line” and “The Lies of Ulysses”.

He was a member of the socialist Resistance, who, after the War, simply described his own experiences in the camps, which was different from the stories being related by these same professionals, who were already deploying “Remembrance” ideology with precise political objectives. Basically, to render impossible any criticism of the State of Israel, and to render untouchable a certain population group that have become increasingly dominant.

Historical Revisionism is not a far-Right concept, it’s an ideology which comes from the Left! Revisionism was perpetuated by a certain hard Left. And at the end of the 1950s, by the Italian Communist Party.

It popped up by way of Cohn-Bendit’s own brother, Jean-Gabriel Cohn-Bendit, I think.

 

(Noam Chomsky)

 

“Coming to the rescue of freedom of expression. Because the French justice system is now attempting to ban historical Revisionism. Left leaning libertarians such as the American Noam Chomsky offer unexpected support for Faurisson. Among them is also Jean-Gabriel Cohn-Bendit. Elder brother of the famous leader of May ‘68. Libertarian and close associate of publishing house La Vielle Taupe.

 

 

 

 

(Jean-Gabriel Cohn-Bendit)

 

‘Pierre Guillame told me there’s a story concerning Faurisson, etc. They want to ban him. I had a look and I said: OK, I’m going to write something. I am against censorship. If I am not convinced of something then I have the right to harbour doubts. That is all. I have the right to say it! That I’m not convinced. That is all. I have the right to say it! That I’m not convinced, and that I’m shaken by it. Arguments exist. Voila’.”

In fact, Revisionism was gaining ground everywhere, on the Left, even the hard-Left. I remember Revisionism being satirized during the time of Charlie Hebdo, at the time of Professor Sharhon’s [sp], “Hitler = SS”.

If in fact the Fabius Gayssot Law came into being quietly, it was because Revisionism was growing thanks to its exactitude. It was making a bee-line towards all the moralists, and truth seekers, both on the Left and on the Right.

“Roger Garaudy, 84, former university professor, former communist Deputy and Senator, a convert to Islam, author of 53 books including the one that give grounds for his appearance today in the criminal court in Paris. He is accused of contesting crimes against humanity for speaking of the myth of the extermination of 6 million jews.”

 

 

“L’Abbe Pierre persists and insists in an interview with Liberation this morning he launched a controversy long thought to be dead and declared that he’s satisfied with the support for Roger Garaudy: ‘I’m sure that the French people are breathing a sigh of relief that the taboo is finally lifted’ — L’Abbe Pierre speaking about Revisionist theories.”

 

 

 

 

So I say again, that whilst we might use Faurisson’s death to relay certain important truths, Revisionism is not a far-Right ideology. It’s an ideology of people who are curious about the truth and exactitude. An ideology born on the Left and which then rebounded to the far-Left, and which has also been seen on the far-Right. And all those today who walk behind Zemmour are shameless closet Revisionists! And all those that read and validated Faurisson, and who validate him still.

I won’t even mention my former good friend Terrie Aldison, [sp] who prided himself in former times as a Revisionist, and on whose bookshelf, on the second floor of his home, reserved uniquely for his friends and not just for his collaborators, stood the complete library of Revisionists works.

And the way we see how all these persons have bowed down to those who dominate us, whereas at the beginning they were readers and admirers of the Professor.

We are able to measure the courage and the uphill battle of the Professor’s life. We can characterize his life as Christ-like. Professor Faurisson, you are a role model for us! Our teacher and your posterity is assured, and will be further amplified. And one day you will be recognized as one of the greats in French history!

Who deserves to be in the Pantheon, if we first manage to rid that place of all the votarians who fatally, in the end, only ever brought votarian lies and arrogance! Simone Vay [sp] and tomorrow maybe it will be the Klarfeld’s.

And why not Bennot Levi [sp], finishing off with Anoona [sp] and then Zemmour for good measure, before everything come crashing down in a grand finale!

Adieu, Professor! Thank you, and infinite respect.

Translation/Subtitles/Voiceover by Alison Chabloz.

[19:24]

END

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See Also:

The World’s First Anti-Holocaust Convention — Instauration Dec, 1979

An Open Letter to New Jersey’s Governor

Historians or Hoaxers?

House of Orwell

Misha: Surviving with Wolves or …

Bradley Smith’s Smith Report # 1

The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies

The Plum Cake

Auschwitz: Myths and Facts

Powers and Principalities XI – Ewen Cameron, MK-Ultra, Holocaust Revisionism — TRANSCRIPT

Tales of the Holohoax – A Historian’s Assessment – Part 1

The Holocaust Lie — Made in America

Probing the Holocaust: The Horror Explained — TRANSCRIPT

Jim Rizoli Interviews Prof Robert Faurisson, Oct 2015 — TRANSCRIPT

Holocaust Eyewitnesses: Is the Testimony Reliable?

Alain Soral – My Homage to Robert Faurisson, Oct 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Inside Auschwitz – You’ve never seen THIS before! — TRANSCRIPT

Amazion Bans 100s of Holocaust Revisionist Books!

AUSCHWITZ – A Personal Account by Thies Christophersen

Jim Rizoli Interviews Bradley Smith — TRANSCRIPT

London Forum – Alfred Schaefer – Psychological Warfare – TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report Interviews Eric Hunt — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio – Germar Rudolf – Persecution of Revisionists & Demographic Disaster – Part 1— TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio: Nicholas Kollerstrom — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice TV – Ingrid Carlqvist – Scandal in Sweden When Ingrid Questions the Unquestionable — TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report with Carolyn Yeager on Johnson vs Anglin debate — TRANSCRIPT

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[Patrick Little, a 33-year-old married White, a USMC veteran of Afghanistan, and an experienced IT engineer, is running for US Senate in California. He’s been censored off from social media after trying to start a discussion about the jewish supremacist control of many critical institutions of the United States and its government.

Here, Little is interviewed by Dennis Fetcho, an American living in Jordan, who hosts a long running live radio show “Inside the Eye — Live!”

Topics discussed include: {TO BE CONTINUED}

— KATANA]

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Patrick Little

Interview with Dennis Fetcho

May 31, 2018

Click the link below to listen to the audio:

https://ia801508.us.archive.org/31/items/ITELRadioFullShow5.31.18/ITEL%20Radio%20Full%20Show%20-%205.31.18.mp3

Show Description

Inside the Eye – Live! – Prime Time 2018.05.31

 

Dennis Fetcho, aka “The Fetch“, is an American ex-patriot living in Amman, Jordan.  He is the author of the Illuminatus Observor, a blog regarded by many as simply the finest Hermetic Qaballa blog in all of blogdom. The Fetch also has a second site called “Inside The Eye – Live!“ 

 

Hour 1 – Guest, Patrick Little, GOP Candidate for US Senate

 

Hour 2 – Free Speech Issues and Factually Correct Rant regarding “Anti-Semitism”

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TRANSCRIPT

(91 minutes)

[00:00]

Good afternoon everybody! It is Thursday afternoon, and it is time for Inside the Eye – Live! Prime Time!

[Intro section]

Mary: Hey Fetch! Hey Fetch!

Trump: Quiet. Quiet. Go ahead, she’s asking a question. Don’t be rude! Don’t be rude!

Mary: Hey Fetch! Fast, roaming, what do say? You say you have gone xx [?] like a freaking laser!

Fetcho: Mary you can’t be asking questions like that! This is Inside the Eye – Live! Prime Time.

Mary: Why not? Aren’t we broadcasting from the Middle East?

Fetcho: Well yeah, but we might be seen as politically incorrect!

Trump: You know, the problem is everybody dumps people for like when there’s a sign of political incorrectness.

Mary: At times your always politically correct.

Fetcho: Yeah, thanks! Does that mean we can talk about dumping the Israelis tomorrow?

Mary: Oh, I’m sure you will probably say quite a bit more than that! And now coming to you live from somewhere in the Middle East, this is Inside the Eye – Live! Prime Time, with your host; The Fetch!

[End of Intro]

Fetcho: All right everybody! From Amman, Jordan. This is the Fetch, and you are listening to Inside the Eye – Live! Prime Time! Today’s date is Thursday, … whoa! The computer’s acting up real quick for some reason, all of a sudden here. Hang tight everybody! Where the heck did that go and why did it just do that? Tell you, sometimes these computers! I got all this set, … Don’t worry everybody!

Amman, Jordan. (Click on image to enlarge)

Hold on one second. There it is. Okay, Today’s date is May 31st, 2018, and a good Thursday afternoon to early evening to all of you listening in the United States, and Canada. And a good late evening to, … wow that’s like, my thing has gotten hacked here. It’s just buzzing all over. Alright, let me turn this mouse off. Okay. Anyway, a good late evening to early Friday morning to all of you listening in European and Asian time zones! And, of course, wherever your listening out there on the worldwide web, or our FM and micro FM broadcasting outlets. May all be well with you and yours!

The weather here in Amman is absolutely fantastic! With daytime highs reaching only about eighty-one degrees. Actually it’s about seventy-six degrees. It wasn’t that hot. And daytime, .. Were hitting right about sixty degrees right now. We are actually going to be going up! To about sixty-one degrees over the next couple hours. And it really looks like somebody has taken over my laptop, because it is just bouncing all over the place. I’ll tell you, it’s strange! I bet you’ve had that over there, the guest standing there in the studio. Anyways, joining us here, I got to, … this is LIVE everybody, but somebody is like taking my laptop. So we’re going to try to just ad-lib this thing. It’s okay, hold on everybody.

[03:06]

Joining us from, I believe California, Patrick Little! Patrick Little is GOP candidate coming up in the June 5th primaries in the state of California. And Patrick, I had actually a lot of things set up for you, but unfortunately everything has gone haywire on my laptop over here. So welcome to Inside the Eye – Live!

Little: OK. Can you hear me now?

Fetcho: Well there you are my friend. I thought it was me, because my laptop is like, going crazy! I’ve got two laptops operating here. We don’t need your video, just so you know. It’s live radio. But now you sound great again.

Everybody this is Patrick Little, he’s got the Little Revolution. Again, it’s coming from the state of California, my home state, Patrick! So it’s kind of nice to hear some of your message. We’ve been saying, what you’ve been saying for probably over a decade now. Out there, doing live radio, here, across the world. So it’s really great to hear some of what you’re saying, because you’re mirroring what we’ve been saying for years, and years. So we’d like to welcome you to Inside the Eye – Live!

Little: Thank you. So you didn’t hear anything I said before?

Fetcho: Absolutely nothing! I bet you, … it was the best stuff you’ve delivered all week, and we missed it!

Little: While I was saying that I’m running for US Senate against Dianne Feinstein, a dual citizen of Israel, who voted for the Iraq war!

And I come from a long line of proud veterans. My father was a Marine Corps veteran of the Vietnam War, and he fought on Hill 881 during the Tet Offensive in 1967. In one 1968 he was in that Khe Sanh air base area, during this attack. He was a presidential card [?] for Johnson and Nixon.

I grew up in a house decorated with things that were honoring our troops, and different programs, like the space program, and such. My grandfather was a captain in the Navy. He ran the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. He was the commander of that shipyard. So we have a long history in national security in my family.

Portsmouth Naval Shipyard (Click image to enlarge).

And when I woke up to the Zionist lobby, and the terrorist attacks they’ve committed against this country, including the nuclear weapons grade uranium they stole from my country, polluting Pennsylvania with a new Superfund site, because they did it so sloppily. They obtained a nuclear rogue, weapons program for a state [Israel] that had repeatedly committed terrorist attacks against United States, both civilian, and military targets.

Israel stole weapon-grade uranium from US. (Click image to enlarge.)

And I don’t know about you, but it’s not the American tradition to give nuclear weapons to terrorist countries that have committed false flag terrorist attacks against this country! And so in the proud tradition of my ancestors, I’m standing up for America, and putting America first, and I’m running for Senate so that I can shame all of the other politicians, once I get there, into ditching their affiliations with the terrorist state of Israel.

Fetcho: Well Patrick, we’ve been, of course, I’m native Californian. I was born and raised in Los Angeles, long history there. I moved out of Los Angeles to the Middle East, about twelve years ago. Nineteen, what is it, 2016, or 17 [2006 or 2007], or so. As you know, there’s been a lot of White flight from California but a lot of us understand the politics there. It’s a very liberalized state. There’s still your conservative pockets in the middle part of the state, towards the northern parts of the state, really the eastern parts of the state also.

Basically with San Francisco and Los Angeles being highly liberal nowadays. How are you trying to reach out, I guess, to the people of California, to get this message out you have out? And really some of what your message is, is highly critical of jews. We support you on that. We are deeply offended by people calling you anti-semitic all the time. We are not bound by what jews feel all the time! We’re tired of listening to their crap, basically!

So, how are you reaching out to the state of California? And why did you pick California? That is a difficult state, it’s a huge state. So, you know, you’re from Maine, you’ve lived elsewhere out there in the States. Why did you pick California to run?

Little: Well, I was honorably discharged from the Marine Corps here, and I wanted to take my wife to a good climate. The Bay area is beautiful. I’m in the East Bay, near the University of Berkeley. And I decided to move up here, and use up my financial background I had built up in the Marine Corps. And I bought myself a nice sloop, a twelve ton sail boat. And we lived on that for a year and a half, while I earned a good salary at a start-up, as a network engineer.

Fetcho: Cool! I lived in Hayward, up there in the Bay for a summer. It’s kind of nice.

Little: The climate is wonderful, and so was the landscape.

Fetcho: It is.

Little: And, you know, a lot of Californians are conservative, most of them are liberal. But I tell you one thing, nobody that I know in California is okay with Israeli snipers shooting Christian, and Muslim, and indigenous people in Palestine, in the stomach while they’re pregnant.

And wearing a shirt while doing so, with a picture of a native woman in that region wearing, you know, wearing a sniper target over her belly. And in Hebrew the shirt says:

“One shot, two kills”

So I don’t know how many people in the state of California, are a fans of the slaughter of innocent women, civilians who are pregnant with unborn children. I do not know if that’s going to fly anymore with the conservatives, than it will with the people that consider themselves liberal.

And I can tell you one thing, California is an anti-war state! We are not supporting another war be expansion for Israel, so they can permanently annex the Golan Heights, by destabilizing the secular, popular, Assad government. Which won 88.7% of the vote in an internationally verified and monitored election in 2014!

Let me tell you something else, Assad won over ninety percent of the Christian vote, meaning the ethnic and religious minorities of Syria agree, that this is a good man, a good leader, who is running a very popular secular government where religious parties are outlawed! Now I’m not going to criticize any, or praise any of the governmental policies of a foreign state, when I don’t need to, but I am going to say, that he protects the religious and ethnic minorities of his country from Israeli backed terrorist groups like all-Qaeda, al-Nusra Which has been, … I can prove you with videos, in Hebrew, at the Israeli Knesset, their parliament, that Israel supports ISIS! Israel supports all-Qaeda, and al-Nusra!

The IDF, their military as well, not just their politicians, support these terrorist groups. That have been used to slaughter ancient religious, and ethnic, minorities, throughout the Middle East, including some of the oldest Christians in the Middle East, the Assyrians! They’ve been used to slaughter secular Muslims! They’ve been used to slaughter the troops in terrorist attacks that were defending these religious and ethnic minorities from these proxy terrorist groups of Israel!

And I’ll be darned if I let the zionists, jewish supremacists, drag my country and our precious troops into another zionist war of aggression! Where we’re being used as mercenaries for the terrorist state of Israel, which has a history of attacking us, and stealing nuclear weapons, and threatening us with terrorist acts.

Fetcho: Well, you know, when you went into the GOP, down in San Diego, you’ve come up really, out of nowhere, people have been saying:

“Fetch! You’ve got to get Patrick on your show!”

You got in. Of course, I didn’t know anything about you, so it’s good that you’re getting the word out. And we’re going to obviously try to magnify that as much as we can here. But you went into the GOP, one of the first things I heard is they kicked you out for this lame charge of you being something like an anti-semite, or something. What happened down in San Diego?

[10:40]

Little: So a poll had just come out the previous week showing me to be the leading challenger to Dianne Feinstein.

Fetcho: Okay.

Little: The thirty-two candidates in the race, the most recent poll of top candidates had shown me to be the leading candidate challenging Feinstein. I had eighteen percent of the vote. My closest rival, including the Republicans and Democrats, at eight percent. And I had a platform where I was utilizing 4chan’s poll, and 8chan, and a bunch of other imaging and message boards, because I had no money. I was a one man campaign, who pulled off all sorts of activism against Jewish supremacy.

I protested outside of AIPAC and the last Wednesday of it. I was the only person protesting there that day. I had done two pro-zionist rallies that were brainwashing young conservative Americans to support Israel. And I stood up and I talked about the USS Liberty, and caused the dual Israeli citizen that was on the talking panel there, at that event at U.C. Berkeley, to lose her mind! And then she was tweeting out that I was threatening her and stuff. I was challenging her to an online debate. I was trying to schedule with her. She ran away and said I was outside waiting to get her afterwards! Which is bullcrap. [laughing]

Yeah, they’re always trying to make us out, anyone who is critical of Israel.

Fetcho: We call it “whine” society, and we’re not talking about the Northern California wines.

Little: [Little laughs] There’s a some excellent wines, by the way, and I have a history of doing agriculture in the Mojave Desert with a drip irrigation system, if you’re a farmer out there.

See: Patrick Little — Twitter Protest, Dec 19, 2017 — TRANSCRIPT

I also went in front of the Twitter building when the zionist ADL was censoring anyone that said anything critical of Israel, or anything where you said that Whites were anything other than monsters, off from Twitter. And we now have a large community of Twitter exiles on Gab. And we are now a politically organized force on Gab! Get on Gab! Gab dot ai. I am Patrick underscore little. My website is “a little revolution dot us” if you like to donate make sure you’re a US citizen, or a legal permanent resident. Go to “Little Revolution dot us forward slash donate”.

And I’m using money to set up robo calls about the USS Liberty, including audiotape of the radio communications between the Israeli terrorist fighter jets that attack the Liberty, and the base where they confirm that the target was indeed American. I have the tapes in Hebrew! That I’m going to be sending out a robo call, as part of my campaign message.

I’ve raised less than four thousand dollars. DeLeone is lagging behind me in terms of online metrics of people searching for him, and looking for information of his insights. I’m the head of him! And he has spent over a million dollars in the last few weeks! I have spent less than three thousand dollars, so far. I’m about to spend the last of what I’ve got, so please send me money, so I can keep up this movement for liberation from the Zionists. And, I’m kicking his butt!

[13:29]

The zionists saw what I was doing, and how successful I was being with no budget, with my own time driving myself all over the place. I was a one man campaign. And so they decided to prop up a jewish woman, by the name of Cruz. And she said she was an online activist and podcaster, and that we, quote, unquote, “needed to wake people up to leftism” and stuff like that. Which is funny, because she was trying to use some of the terminology, and popular stuff, I was doing with the Internet and the terms I was saying, waking people up.

And what she did before she was running for Senate, was run a podcast that had two hundred subscribers! So this woman is nobody! But she’s pro-Israeli in she’s going around saying that Israel is for the chosen people and we need to send our troops off to die for Israel! And she’s getting flown around on a Lear jet! We’ve got pictures of her landing in Palm Springs in a Lear jet, even though she hasn’t shown up at more than, like one percent in any of the polls. And they’re parading her around like she’s God’s gift to the world!

And, you know, she’s trying to claim that she’s going to get the right-wing youth vote, when she’s an Israeli firster, and I’m the only American first candidate out there! Because I’m the only one will talk about the foreign terrorist influence that is dominant in Washington DC!

I’m doing this with virtually no budget. I’ve had death threats to myself and my family! They’re trying to destroy my personal life! They’re trying to drive my family away from me.

And I’ve had it full up, and God help them if my family gets hurt! God help them! Because I will only double down and re-dedicate my life to liberating this country, from this terrorist, Zionist, jewish supremacist influence!

Fetcho: Well, I mean, obviously it’s a good line. But as we all know, this is a very entrenched power base. They’ve been able to bring America to war, going back to World War one, World War Two, the Vietnam War, obviously the Iraq War. 9/11 was one of their operations, and nobody’s ever been held to account on that.

How are you going to go about really getting, … I mean, we support everything you’re saying, but how do you go about getting the allies you need, in a major type aircraft carrier like the United States, to get some of these things to happen? I mean, where do you start to chip away at the armor that jews have built up over the last century?

Little: I had a meeting a few nights ago with some secular Muslim leaders, in the Muslim community here. I’ve met with Greek Orthodox Palestinians is I’ve met with the Syrians. They support me, and they’re spreading the word at their churches, and at their mosques. They’ve made known that I am a friend to all people that seek liberation from Zionist influence.

in the Middle East for America. I’m going to put America first, which means stopping the fundamental ng of Israeli terrorism in the Middle East. And that is music to everyone’s ears, that has been a victim is of Israeli terrorism, including the Lebanese, the Syrian community here in California, the Armenian community here in California, and a lot of other ethnic and religious minorities! I’ve even got a lot of Asian supporters!

In that one poll, I got close to forty percent of the Asian vote, with thirty-two candidates in the running, mind you. Close to forty percent! Because I talk about jewish discrimination against Asians in university admissions. I’ve created one flyer that’s very popular in Asian communities. It’s having a big impact!

And one of my tactics is to just ask random, anonymous, people from the internet to print out my flyers, and go flyer areas where they think there are people that are fed up with this jewish supremacism! And the Asian community is responding! They are waking up! They launched a lawsuit against Harvard University for discriminating against Asians in 2016, 2017.

And I made it known to them, that according to Hillel, the jewish supremacy student organization, sixty-seven percent of the graduate student body at Harvard, is made up of ethnic jews! Now jews are one point seven, or one point eight percent of the population of the United States according to jewish organizations, and their less than three percent of top performing high school students. How can they possibly reserve sixty-seven percent of the seats at the Harvard Graduate School, an elite institution for people, based on racial membership? And the whole time after people started pointing this out, they tried to confuse the Asians by saying:

“Oh no! It’s White supremacism! That’s why there are not enough Asians getting into Harvard!“

They say it’s White supremacist! Because they lump in jews with Whites in response to these types of criticisms, and say:

 

“Oh yeah! Harvard grad school is eighty, or eighty something percent White!”

When really, it’s almost entirely jewish. And so they do the “fellow White people” thing any time someone brings out jewish over-representation, or nepotism, or discrimination against other races.

So, the Asian community here doesn’t have this White guilt, that the jewish-zionist media has programmed in a White Americans. And I’m waking them up in droves! They don’t [?] want to put America first, they want their children to have a good shot at a top quality education, if they put in the leg work and have the brains to do it. And I’m going to empower them to live up to their full potential, and stop this jewish supremacy. This discrimination in institutions, and exclusion of non jews from the halls of power, and from the halls of our elite institutions!

[18:36]

Fetcho: Okay, you look at the media, of course, now when we look at your, …
When we go basically do a web search on you, you’re going to find the top ten, twenty, thirty, forty, is nothing but “anti-semite”, “neo-Nazi”, all this crap that Jews use like to use. Obviously, we find it highly offensive that they would stoop to this level, but you and I both know that they do.

What do you have in mind for basically rolling back jewish domination, like with the FCC. Would you favor something like rolling back jewish control the media, splitting up, and breaking up, these media empires, so that we have much more diversity literally within basically our American country?

Little: Well, I can tell you, you’re addressing a symptom. The biased media is a result of jewish supremacist control of our government. So step one! We go ahead and take advantage of the fact that close to eighty percent of Americans, according to the Edelman report, which is what politicians go by when evaluating Americans faith in institutions. Eighty percent of Americans think that the media is full of crap! And, you know, what? When they print all this stuff about me, what were they calling Donald Trump when he was running?

What were they calling him?

Fetcho: I have no idea. I was not there.

Little: They were calling him a “neo-Nazi”, they were calling him a “White supremacist”, they were throwing all of these labels at him, they’re throwing at me. I can show you the organizational charts of these media companies. They are all completely controlled by Zionist-jews, be that the New York Times, Fox News, or, …

Who Controls Your Mind? 2013 Chart. (Click image to enlarge.)

Fetcho: Are they zionist jews or just jews, at the end of the day?

Little: Oh! You had better believe, Zucker who has said in the past, something equivalent to, “my allegiance is first to Israel!” And the Murdoch’s, … you try to find stuff critical of Israel on Murdoch’s news network, those are Zionist jews, the Murdoch children, that are now running Fox News. The Ochs Sulzberger family that runs the New York Times, they are openly Israeli firsters! These are jewish supremacists! And I can show you the organizational charts to prove this to you. People were kicked off Twitter for sharing these charts.

Now the way to defeat the lying, jewish, fake press media, is to take control of our government back! And at that point I will do what I can working with other candidates, that will be elected, to open up a Senate House Joint Committee on Un-American activity. I’m bringing back McCarthy’s tool.

McCarthy, behind closed doors, just like President Nixon, talked about jewish control of our media and how dangerous it was. Since nowadays, instead of only twenty percent of people disbelieving the media, we’re up to eighty percent of Americans, across all races, and all creeds. Think the media is nothing but lies! If you don’t believe me, go to the 2015 through 2017 Edelman reports. These are what the governmental officials look at. This is basically the report that the Zionist look at every year to say how well are we doing to control the institutions that can influence public opinion, and how much of those institutions are still believed by the public. And the answer is a giant goose egg! They’ve lost control!

That’s why they’re trying to shut down the Internet, because people go to the Internet for their news now. Which is where I am dominating! And we’re going to win this election, if we can have people up. If we can stop being so pessimistic, if we can stop being so black pilled. I mean, there’s no way that I went from eighteen percent support to, three weeks later, to being at zero percent support, like the media saying I am now. They’re trying to create an expectation.

Fetcho: Yeah, I think they gave Trump two percent equally, so, …

Little: One percent! I posted the article to my Gab account. There were some outlets saying one percent.

[22:27]

Fetcho: How many people, … obviously you seems fairly fresh at this message, you know, based on your language, and such. And it is refreshing for a lot of people who have been doing this a long time, to hear that it’s finally reaching into America’s body politic. How many other people, candidates, are there like you, even just say, to a lesser degree? How much is your style of message starting to reach out to other states?

Little: There are close to ten people that I know of running right now that believe what I know. Some of them are open about it, like Art Jones and Paul Nehlen. However, I’ve got close to three dozen people that have already agreed to run for their senate or congressional seat in their district in 2020. My goal is to get that number, including gubernatorial candidates, up to around six hundred, or seven hundred.

And I’d like every governor’s seat that’s open in 2020, every one of the Congressional Representative seats, and every one of the Senate seats that are open for reelection 2020, to have someone saying the things I’m saying, running. Because they’re spending millions of dollars and tons of man hours trying to shut down my message! And it’s not working! And can you imagine if there were six hundred of me? xxx Would be overwhelmed!

Fetcho: It would be good if we had six hundred people like you that actually understand the game, and can start to take this on, of course.

Little: They’re out there, they just need to be encouraged to run. And I’m dedicated to reaching out to these people who are supporting me. A lot of people just sent me fan mail. I wound up getting back to them, and doing a little research into their background and stuff, they volunteered. And I told them:

“You either run for Congress, or Senate, or governor seat, in 2020, or we’re done talking!”

And a lot of people are responding in the affirmative.

Fetcho: How about at the local level? Are you working at all on any local groups? Any local groups endorsed? Any endorsements at all?

Little: Most of my supporters are behind closed doors, and have instructed people to say undecided if they’re going to vote for me, or to say that they’re voting for Feinstein, so. I do not want people doing anything other than at the anonymous ballot booth, to vote for me.

Fetcho: OK. Going to a break everybody. Patrick Little of “a little revolution”. Against Dianne Feinstein in the GOP, are you in the GOP or, …?

[24:54]

Little: Jewish genocide being committed against the Palestinians. Some people might get onboard because they’re sick of the jews inciting all the other races against us, and the systems of culture making that they control in this country. Some might get on board, because they’re sick of Zionists being behind the holding of the borders open in Europe, by zionists. Some might get on board, because they don’t like the fact that Jews control the media and fill it with nothing but pornography, smut and violence!

See: Patrick Grimm – How the Jewish Supremacists Wrecked America

There are a million reasons for you to oppose jewish supremacism! And I think that you need to be open to supporters from every one of those camps! Because ultimately, if you want to have White communities, if you want to be pro-White, if you want to end the systematic anti-White discrimination, you’re not going to be able to do any of that, until Jewish supremacists are removed from power! So step one, remove these tyrants from power! Step two, all of your other goals!

Fetcho: And that everybody, is a voice of Patrick Little, and he is joining us here at Inside the Eye — Live! Prime Time. This Thursday again, May the 31st. He’s going to be running in the primaries coming up on June 5th. You know, a new interesting article came out on Newsweek:

“The California Republican Party has disavowed [oh my goodness!] it’s top polling candidate to take on Democratic Senator, Dianne Feinstein, this November, after it emerged that he has espoused a range of White nationalist views, including calling for a country free from jews!”

 

Now quite frankly, Patrick, I am for one, as an American, I’m pissed off at the way jewish media, and jewish organizations, and our institutions, seem to think the litmus test is “jews first”. And that seems to be your message isn’t it?

Little: Absolutely! And just a reminder here, I have massive support among many different races of men, and many different creeds, in this state. Now, I was speaking in that message to people that were saying:

“Well, you can’t support other Americans who aren’t White, if you’re running, and you’re pro-White!”

That’s absolutely false! This country was founded on the principle that all peoples have the right to seek out life, liberty, and prosperity, for themselves and their progeny! And that is not limited to just people from England, or just people from Germany, or whatever, that have come here.

Whites are a small minority in California now. We’re less than half of the state. I think we’re down to less than forty percent of the state now. And in terms of people under the age of thirty, we are a drop in the bucket!

You know, what? I’m getting people who wish to breathe free of jewish supremacist tyranny, across all races, across all creeds. And ultimately, we’re dealing with a global force for terrorism, the Zionist lobby! We’re dealing with a global network of people who control the news in almost every country! They control the banks in almost every country! People that drive students of all races and creeds into this debt slavery in order to pay for their own education. People, these supremacists, these Jewish supremacists cause foreign wars of aggression in the backyards of countless peoples around the world!

And you don’t have to be White to recognize the fact, that these jewish supremacists are running our countries into the ground, for the benefit of a group of small jews, not even all jews. A group of small jews benefiting from this at the expense of everybody else! And it’s not hard to wake people up to this message. As a matter of fact I did some AB testing, driving ride-share, just to have captive audiences — and if you go to my Gab, you can see some of the interesting feedback I got in my driver’s panel.

The easiest people to wake up are Asians. The hardest people to wake up are White Protestant Christians.

I went ahead and put in a few months of legwork before I decided to start doing “in real life” activism, and I can tell you one thing. The Whites are the most brainwashed in this country! And we’ve got to wake them up, but we’ve got to wake everyone up! And if you’re pro-White, or if you’re pro Asian, or you’re pro — whatever your group is — that’s a right guaranteed to you by the US Constitution. You have the right to advocate the interests of your children, of your community, and to put America first in your community interests, at heart, in the public forum.

[29:15]

And there’s nothing in the Constitution that stops us from doing this. And the Bill of Rights, right now, is so far under attack from these jewish supremacists, they are trying to take away our right to bear arms — which is not just for hunting — it’s for civil defense, and for keeping the government in check. The trying to take away our free speech! They have gotten rid of it on social media for the most part, unless you go to Gab.ai, or a platform like that!

They’ve taken away our right to privacy with the Patriot Act, which was written in Israel by people like Michael Chertoff, who were the most powerful men in the government. They were more powerful than Bush. Jr. Michael Chertoff, the head of the newly formed homeland security, at the time. We’re talking about people who rely on cloak and dagger tactics and terrorism!

See: Erasing the Liberty Movie website.

ABOUT:

The people making the USS Liberty movie now, have had two rather suspicious deaths among the top people that are helping to produce that movie, to get that off the ground. We are dealing with a group that deals by deception, and backroom deals, and bribery, and threats of violence! This is international terrorism!

See: Trailer for funding a full length feature film of the June 8 1967 Israeli attack of the USS Liberty

And I’m asking you, regardless of race, or creed, or even citizenship, to stand up with me against Jewish supremacy! In this country, in the United States, I’m asking United States citizens to stand up with a unified booming voice, and say:

“We will not capitulate to terrorism! We will not allow our government to be taken hostage by a foreign terrorist nation, that has a rogue nuclear program and commits terrorist attacks regularly against us and our NATO allies!”

Stand up in your country wherever you’re from, and join me in overthrowing these terrorists!

Fetcho: You know, Patrick this all very simple too, as a state of Israel, because it has not signed on to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, but one hundred percent of the aid that does go to Israel, is against American law. So we already have the laws in place to cut off this rogue nation, Israel. But as you can see, nothing is happening. So obviously a stronger voice in the Senate would certainly be helpful.

[31:13]

Are you, again, let’s go back to this issue, because we want to drive it home, not just for you and I, because we get it, and a lot of the audience here actually does get it. But, the way that the media frames everything, aren’t they really telling the audience, and the voters out there, that the litmus test is putting jews first? And it’s about time we stop that. Is that how you’re reading this equally?

Little: Absolutely! And I’m going to be that voice in the US Senate for you and other American citizens who wish to see this Israel first and jewish supremacists first policy, put to an end! They’ve had a stranglehold on our key institutions for about one hundred years now.

They’ve dragged us into foreign wars of aggression, and they make it so that everyone feels the stranglehold of jewish supremacism when they’re trying to get their children into institutions like the Harvard. You know, Whites, for example, are 70% of top performing high school students, but we were only twelve percent of the incoming class to Harvard in 2017!

This does not just affect Whites. And I’m will be a voice for all Americans that wish to have our sovereignty restored. To wish to clean these traitors out of the government. The people that want the Israel Firsters removed from the State Department, I’m going to help them. I’m going to set up that Joint Committee on Un-American Activities. And I will give you that voice that, …

Fetcho: Thank you Patrick. I’m an international guy, I work with a lot of people overseas at very senior levels. I can tell you the State Department has a lot of LGBT jewish influence, that is very harmful to US interests. And quite frankly, they’re imposing their agenda on multiple nations, just to advance their agenda, and it’s not helping the United States for one bit, as an American nation!

Another issue Patrick, that you might consider and would you support, and that would be, the end of all dual citizenship in government. The Israelis do not allow it. The Jordanians do not allow it. There’s no such thing of it here in Saudi, where I am at, often. Now the Chinese certainly do not allow it.

In fact, is not allowed virtually anywhere in the world, except where jews have power, as well as their own state of Israel. Would you back, and do you support, ending dual citizenship in the United States government, and key national security positions?

Little: I have repeatedly said exactly that, and more. So absolutely yes! I support the end to dual citizenship for anyone in this country, most especially government officials! There’s no way you can be a citizen of Israel, in which case you put the state of Israel first, and also a representative that gets to vote on whether, or not, we go to war for Israel, in the US Senate, or Congress! We have to end dual citizenship!

Fetcho: Would you cut the subsidies for the Israelis, or jews in America, to fight for the IDF and then come back and be a citizen of America, when it’s denied to every single ethnic group in the United States?

[34:02]

Little: I absolutely would! And I tell you one thing that violates a law that was passed in the twentieth century. I forget the name of the law. There’s a law that forbids you from going and fighting for a foreign nation. I will end these double standards!

Fetcho: Yeah, they’re so clever they gave themselves a waiver which I’m getting tired of reading about all the time. Jews get waiver on everything! Obviously jews did 9/11. Nobody’s been held accountable for it. Here we are, sixteen years later, seventeen years later, still nothing has happened. George Bush [Donald trump] is obviously a Lukudnick on his foreign policy side, so he’s never going to do anything about it. Even though he knows that there’s a problem there.

See: 911 – The Jews Had Me Fooled: A Jewish Engineered Pearl Harbor

What do you feel are some strategies American Patriots need to do, obviously get control of the government is a good one! But what do you think are some strategies that people need to do? Over half of Americans don’t believe the Jewish story. So what are some strategies you hold to get in this 9/11 really brought back into the fore, and the perpetrators brought to justice?

Little: Simple! You make light of the facts that are already publicly available, and then use your power in the Congress and the Senate to open up investigations, and the declassification of the information that proves that Israel played a key role in organizing and publicizing 9/11 in the way they wanted.

They had the Patriot Act on the table, ready to strip us of our Bill of Rights, before those planes even took off! So, this is easy stuff! What I’m doing right now, me and Paul Nehlen, and a few other candidates alone, are already overwhelming the systems. If we charge the trenches in 2020, with hundreds of candidates, we win! They cannot survive that!

They are depending on individuals with fan bases to stand up in limited numbers against this terrorist enemy. And that’s not the way forward. You want to be my fan, you go out and you run for office in 2020! I don’t want a fan club! I don’t want to be seen as some sort of visionary guy. I’m just an ordinary American Marine Corps veteran, enlisted, honorably discharged, rank of sergeant. I wasn’t even an officer. I’m just your average American that woke up to the truth and said:

 

“No more! I’ve had it up to here!”

This is nearly identical to 1775. We’ve got taxation without representation, we’re ruled over by a foreign tyrannical government, doing horrible things to US citizens and military personnel. And it’s time to stop it!

So don’t be a closet supporter! If you have a clean record, if you were honorably discharged from the military, if you’re a police officer, if you’re firefighter, if you serve your community already in some capacity, you need to step up! If there’s no one that talks about zionist control of our government running in your district for Congress, or for that Senate seat that’s open, if it’s open in 2020, you have to stand up and run!

You have to put yourself up to that crucible, and withstand the threats, and such, as I’m withstanding now! Because, ultimately if they can’t keep you out of the public eye, they respond with terrorism and threats! That’s their nature. You have to stop being a closet supporter of politicians like me, and stand up and run! I’m doing this with almost no money.

If you do want to donate it’s “little revolution dot us forward slash donate” [littlerevolution.us/donate]. But ultimately it’s, you, awakened American, who must stand up and run! If you’re running and someone you think is your better, who talks about these issues, running, then support them! But if you can’t convince that person you consider to be better, to run, then you have to run yourself! I myself, considered myself a stand in candidate, until a lot of the most vocal people who are anonymous in this state, refused to run! And I said:

 

“You know what? If you won’t do it, I will!”

And I considered myself a placeholder for people I thought might be my better, right up until the nomination process. And here I am!

[37:47]

Fetcho: Fill us in on the technicalities of this run, for all the listeners out there in California. How do they find you? Where you’re going to be on the ballot? And, you know, these types of issues to actually come out and vote for you. What how is it working for you? Are you GOP, independent? How is it going to work and how do they basically find you on the ballot?

Little: Look for me “Patrick Little”. My ballot designation is “civil rights activist”, because right now, we don’t have civil rights for anyone except for these jewish supremacists. So instead of civil rights for all, we have “privilege for jewish supremacists”! And so you can find me in the polls, on June fifth, go to your poll. If you are registered to vote in 2016 and you haven’t moved, you can go in on June fifth and find “Patrick Little for US Senate”. Be sure to vote for me!

And there might be doing, … I’ve been talking to Jim Corbett who’s talking about the Israelis controlling the three major companies that do the electronic voting machines here. So ask for a paper ballot! And take a picture of it, if that’s legal. Verify that it’s legal, and take a picture of your postal ballot, if you did a postal a ballot, or your paper ballot. Do not use electronic voting machines! Check to see your local district election laws if you’re allowed to request a paper ballot. If you can get, look up the laws and find out whether, or not, your district allows you to demand a paper ballot. If they do, demand that paper ballot! That’s a lot harder than just wiping the machines.

And you have to remember, these electronic voting machines, look at what happened to a woman named Presley, who won the congressional race around Houston. She was robbed! And they violated US federal election law by destroying the ballot images, that they pretty much could make printouts of the electronic images to make paper ballots to be counted up later. These images must be held by federal law for twenty-two months after an election. They, within six hours of her saying that she wanted to view these ballot images and challenge the results, they were at the Texas Supreme Court, fast tracked, and the judge approved against federal law, the destruction of these ballot images. So, demand that paper ballot!

[39:56]

I can prove to you, if you listen to me and Jim Corbett who is also a congressional candidate, that the voting machine companies which change their names once every two, or three years, including dominion, they are controlled by Israeli investors. And the different congressional districts and states do not have the ability to sign a contract where they’re not allowed to look at the software in these machines, which is written in Israel.

So this is not a “conspiracy theory”, this can be confirmed. This Jim Corbett gentleman exposed voter fraud against Patrick Buchanan, a little over a decade ago. And two other times he has exposed and won exposing voter fraud. They tried to steal a primary from some people. He exposed it. So that they’re going to try and make it look like I didn’t get any votes. You have to request a paper ballot. And you have to vote on June fifth in California.

If your employer says “no you can’t go vote”, so long as you give them prior warning that you are going to exercise your constitutional right to go vote on June fifth, they can be fined massively by the state and federal governments if they don’t let you go vote. So they have to let you go vote. Let your employer know that you are going to vote on June fifth in California, and there’s nothing they can do to stop you. This is an anonymous ballot, they have no way of proving that you voted for me. If you can, if it’s legal, take a picture of your completed ballot, and if you really want to drive the point home, don’t vote for anyone except for me, and vote against every ballot measure.

Fetcho: Just to make it clean?

Little: Just to make it clean. That’s what I did. The only thing I voted for was Trump in 2016, and against a lot of the ballot measures that would have been expanded the Trotskyite power they’ve got here over the state of California.

Fetcho: Yeah, how is California? I haven’t been there in twelve years, man. Still as loony as ever?

Little: Oh yeah! They keep on passing all these new restrictions on the Second Amendment, which are unconstitutional! And I’ll do what I can, in the Senate, to put the Supreme Court and the State Supreme Court in check! , because right now, the reason the zionists have gotten away with what they want to get away with, whether it be the dual citizenship being a Representative in our government, and having dual citizenship, or whether it has to do with taking away our First, Second, Fourth and Tenth Amendments. They’re doing it through the courts. Right now, the courts have almost all the power! And the way to stop this, is by standing up in the legislature and saying:

“This is not the original intent of the Constitution! Being just a Supreme Court justice, or a State justice in the State Supreme Court does not give you the right to violate the United States Constitution!”

So one of my talking points is Proposition Eight, which said that California defines marriage as between a man and a woman, as is traditional, and as according to all the different faiths here. They overturned that with the court, even though close to eighty percent of the state voted for that traditional marriage ballot! They use the courts to push their Trotskyite, Bolshevik, counter traditional, anti-man, legislation!

[42:58]

Fetcho: Marriage was to secure the well-being of children. That was the whole purpose to it. And obviously idiots, having two males getting together now, there’s aren’t going to be any children involved. So there’s no such thing as marriage! The whole thing is a linguistic fraud that they keep perpetrating, every step of the way!

Little: They all want to destroy all traditional structures in society to atomize people and make them easier to control.

Fetcho: That is so true. Another interesting point that I’ve heard you raise a lot and it’s something that we would support equally, and that is called “diversity”. But we mean it quite literally. And if you are two percent of the population you better not have more than two percent representation in any given business! And you kind of support that, limit Jews to no more than two percent in any given field, and that might even be too much, wouldn’t it?

Little: I agree absolutely! I can understand people seeking to have jews removed from power for a cool-off period, and from all offices in this country. I would understand that. However, what I’m pushing for, and it’s part of my platform, is to immediately dismiss all Supreme Court Justices that are jewish, and all judges and legislators that are jewish until arbitrarily selected jews are represented by no more than two percent of the population! Their percentage of the population is one point eight, I say cap it two percent, for all offices in the government.

Fetcho: Shouldn’t we also just extend that to across the board? We should make diversity the law of the land. Jews can have only two percent, pretty much everywhere, unless we find that there’s a national security imperative. At that point in time to keep it, until we can replace them?

[44:34]

Little: I’m looking into stuff like that right now. I’m looking to do it with the government first, and at that point my Joint Committee on Un-American Activity, will address those other issues, like Senator McCarthy tried to with dog whistles. Except I’m not just going to call them communists, I’m going to call them jews! As Senator McCarthy and President Nixon did privately.

Fetcho: Exactly. And Mr Ford, behind the Ford Motor Company, equally. Another issue is, and obviously we’ve got ninety million Americans out of work, essentially. Trump can talk a big game, but as you know, in California tent cities everywhere now.

Part of the problem I feel is that the income disparity has gotten out of hand., in other words, the CEOs and the chairman of the boards, making four hundred fifty, two thousand times see what the lowest person on the factory floor, in the janitors room, is making. Should we have something like a luxury tax, where we’re saying:

“Look, you can pay your guys up to one hundred eighty times at the lowest paid person, but after that you guys are going to be hit by a luxury tax and that money is going to go back into the federal government for redistribution.”

Would you support something like this idea?

Little: I’m curious about that. Right now, I deal with the primary issue, at which point, we can deal with all of these issues. What I can tell you, is this income disparity in this country is out of control, and it’s intentional. And you have to remember it’s not just income. I prefer to look at “income left over after expenses”. So your purchasing power, the purchasing power of the American household has gone down consistently for everyone, except for the top one percent, over the last hundred years. And that’s by design!

Jews control the regulatory agencies that eliminate new small businesses from entering into things like broadcasting, pharmaceuticals, you name it, there are jewish barriers to entry, were jews are running those regulatory agencies to prevent competition. And so then they’re allowed to set up these giant conglomerate corporate structures that are international in nature, not loyal to America, and at that point you have the equity holders making all the money.

And we know, over the past hundred years, there have been special tax holidays for jews to cash out their windfall profits and capital gains, at next to zero marginal tax rate. And this is designed to enrich the one percent, which is majority jewish. I believe most of the billionaires are ethnically jewish. And you better believe, if you’re not jewish, I believe Bezos [Jef Bezos — Amazon founder] is not jewish, you have to play ball. And do things like pour money into the failing New York Times, and Washington Post, if you want to be able to sit at the table, in terms of having out of monopoly, like online shopping.

Fetcho: Some quick issues, because we are running out of time here. I know you have to move on.

NGOs, call them nonprofits in America, but the reality is that the NGOs, the George Soros’, are completely out of whack. Jews raise probably, twenty to twenty-nine billion dollars a year from the American people, and send that over to Israel. All done under the guise of nonprofits, which essentially means the US taxpayer is footing the bill. Are these issues that you are looking to address, or that something that you haven’t quite addressed yet?

Little: Absolutely! Among my things, I would address powerful lobbies, and organizations like this, would be my campaign promise to outlaw lobbyists for foreign governments. And also lobbies for corporations. There’s no reason why corporations should be able to lobby and buy congressmen and senators. And that will help improve some of the legislation that would lead to a more equitable tax solution, where working class people and farmers wouldn’t be taxed to death.

Where people who make windfall profits from speculation, where they profit from insider information, would no longer be able to make this money, and pour this money that they make, these windfall, pretty much untaxed profits into these NGOs. You have to remember, the primary organizations behind the opening of America’s borders, and the circumvention of our immigration law, are funded by jewish supremacist, zionist donors!

You have to remember the caravan that arrived in San Diego, that was a bunch of jewish lawyers at the border handing them forms pointing out loopholes, how to get them in this country. “IsraAID”, a NGO that is allowed to do tax exempt stuff internationally, was behind a lot of the human smuggling of these invaders into Europe! Where people who were of military age, with the aid of this Israeli backed NGOs, were allowed to be smuggled into the European Union. Where they claimed that they were fourteen years old and were attending schools in northern Western Europe, claiming they were fourteen years old, while they were raping the schoolgirls on their way home!

Adopt a refugee Infant Today! (Click image to enlarge)

Fetcho: [invaders] in their thirtys.

Little: These are Israelis zionist, jewish supremacist, malicious intent organizations, and NGOs, such as IsraAID. I can post you a video showing Israid on the beaches, helping to signal and welcome the invaders that received three thousand dollars apiece in Israel, to move to Europe.

So the “asylum seekers”, if you want to call that, go to Israel, they’re rejected and they know, they’ll get a one time payout of three thousand dollars, which is about exactly how much it cost to go from the north coast of Africa to Europe. So the Israelis are funding this illegal invasion of the European Union! And ensuring that the governments they control in the European Union, put up no fight!

They control elections, not just in the United States, but in Austria, where Hoffer who is going to stop this massive wave of immigration, won his presidential race in May of 2016. However they flooded the postal ballots, with fake ballots, so that in Lower Austria one hundred forty seven percent was the amount of voter participation. Which there’s no such thing above one hundred percent voter participation.

These are Israeli NGOs, these are funded by the speculators, that have insider information about what central banks are going to do to make windfall profits off of military contractors, and from also currency speculation. George Soros uses this jewish Rothschild’s control the central banks and insider information to make his billions, upon billions. And he funnels these into anti-Western organizations, and NGOs, that ensures that the borders remain open. And he makes sure that our government supports Israeli wars of aggression, that ensures a regular flow of refugees into United States of America.

Fetcho: You know Patrick, that is a quick hour my friend! Thank you so much! Good luck again. Everybody get out there June the fifth, in California.

Patrick, get in the last word.

Little: Thank you for having me on. June fifth, remember to request that paper ballot. Vote for Patrick Little!

Fetcho: Thanks a lot Patrick! Good luck today. Thanks so much!

[51:22]

[End of Little Interview and transcript]

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NOTES

See also:

Patrick Little — Twitter Protest, Dec 19, 2017 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little — Speaks After Getting Kicked Out of GOP Convention, April 5, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little — Interview with Newsweek, Apr 30, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little — Interview with Yahoo News, May 1, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little — Interview with Radcapradio, May 13, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little Returns with Luke Ford, May 28, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little – Interview with Dennis Fetcho, May 31, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little – Duels with Nick Fuentes, Jun 9, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

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[Patrick Little, a 33-year-old married White, a USMC veteran of Afghanistan, and an experienced IT engineer, is running for US Senate in California. He’s been censored off from social media after trying to start a discussion about the jewish supremacist control of many critical institutions of the United States and its government.

Here, Little is interviewed by Luke Ford, an Australian living in the USA, who “converted” to Judaism in 1993, on his Senate run and how he came to hold his views, and his desire to liberate America from the Zionist Occupational Government!

Topics discussed include: {TO BE CONTINUED}

— KATANA]

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Patrick Little

Returns with Luke Ford

May 28, 2018

Click the link below to view the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Mc00WLJGA

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TRANSCRIPT

(77:00)

[00:00]

Ford: G’day mate! Luke Ford here. Patrick Little returns. He’s a candidate for the United States Senate from the state of California. He’ll be challenging Dianne Feinstein. And Patrick, tell me a little bit about your platform.

Little: Well, I’d like to address the issue of jewish supremacism*, and discrimination and prejudice in today’s America against all people that the jewish supremacists see as challengers to control of the culture making institutions, news media, pretty much the commanding heights of our society.

{* Jewish supremacism is the belief that the jews are religiously, morally, intellectually, and/or genetically superior and therefore should control or rule. The religion of Judaism itself claims that the Jews are a people “chosen” by God ahead of the rest of humanity.]

Ford: And this has not been a lifetime passion of yours, this is something you stumbled on to, relatively recently, about three years ago. Is that correct, when you started becoming jew-wise.

Little: No. I woke up a year and a half ago!

Ford: So tell me about your journey, from how did you get woke?

Little: Well, I had to be shamed into admitting that I was holding people to double standards. And if I wanted to be a virtuous man, if I wanted to be morally consistent man, I had to hold all groups to the same standards in terms of morals. And when I finally agreed to look into evidence that may cast jews, especially the ones in power, in a negative light, I overcame my programming.

And it’s like, it was like unplugging a dam, because at that point I was willing to look into all sorts of stuff. And I started to paint a very coherent picture of how Western countries are run. Whereas in the past, I had a bunch of symptoms I had addressed, without having any consistency in my explanations for how I could explain how these phenomena came into existence. So, understanding the disease, finally getting the microscope that I could look through to actually see the germs and confirm the existence of bacterium, so to say.

[02:00]

It would be the equivalent of our forefathers a few hundred years ago, finally being able to see what was causing these different symptoms, and diseases. The pathogen! It was really eye-opening! And now I think we can develop antibiotics such to the pathogen in such a way that jewish supremacist can stop poisoning the lifeblood of Western societies. Stop causing turmoil and symptoms of this disease all over the world.

See: The Realist Report – Tanstaafl: The Jew As A Parasite — TRANSCRIPT

Ford: So, prior to this, did you believe that there’s one group ruining the Western world, say the Freemasons, or the blacks, or the Chinese? Or did you have that kind of thinking before?

Little: Nope. The closest explanation I had come up with, I said:

“Okay there’s money coming from somewhere, and I know that the bankers are working with the oil money, and I know about this petrodollar, … “

And so I came up with a bunch of different ideas, but I didn’t push any of them, as who was behind it.

[03:00]

So, they were actually, when I joined the military, I stopped looking into this, because without allowing yourself to look behind the giant door, the JQ door, and only looking in little windows and maybe traps where you could put the coal down into the basement, you can only peek into the overall picture of the house, and just see little rooms that maybe, that show problems. Whereas, so to say, the thing at the middle of the house, I wouldn’t look into.

So it’s kind of like Tommy Robinson, where he’s very anti-Muslim, very, you know, hostile towards different types of groups, and makes fun of Social Justice Warriors, but really doesn’t understand that he is being incited against other people. And once I figured out who was inciting the different groups against each other, after trying to disprove several books.

First I started with “The Culture of Critique”. And I was not able to disprove any of the information there, and also his theories made a lot of sense on the evolutionary strategy. So the evolutionary strategy proposed by Dr. Kevin Donald is theory, just like even gravity is a theory.

[04:02]

No one’s been able to disprove it, given modern experimentation and the scientific method. So if you say the theory of Dr. Kevin MacDonald for jewish group evolutionary strategy is a theory, well so is gravity. [laughing] So I went on and then proceeded, … I went with a historical path, so I talked to a very intelligent, I want to say young man, but he must not smoke cigarettes, he’s a very healthy looking for a 39-year-old, Ryan Dawson. And he focuses more on the contemporary stuff, although he also has quite a breadth of knowledge for the historical problems where jewish supremacism has popped up.

The About page at Ryan Dawson’s site, ANC REPORT. (click image to enlarge)

And so, I went for the historical approach. And I went back, whether it was around the time of the Magna Carta, and Williams Longshanks [aka, King Edward the 1st. He expelled the jews from England in 1290, not to return until about 350 years later], or whether you jumped forward to some of the Pope’s of the medieval ages, or whether you were looking at certain excerpts from Muhammad and different Muslims, they all said the same thing about jews!

[05:01]

And the worst things were said in northern, and Western, and eastern Europe, and sometimes in southern Europe. And I couldn’t believe the anecdotes I read of people’s encounters with jews. And really identified some patterns there.

See: What World-Famous Men Said About the Jews

And so, at first I confirmed that these horrible things I was reading, these events that were driven by jews at the center, or by jews as a whole group. At first I tried to disprove the events, and then I tried to come up with theories on how they work. And I think I’ve got a pretty consistent understanding now of our contemporary world, at the center of which are jewish supremacists that control all of our key institutions.

And, at this point, I think my theories are good enough, to the point where I can predict behavior. And thusly I can predict externalities of government regulation, rulings, and courts, international affairs, and such, based on my understanding of jewish group evolutionary responses, through [?] perceived stimuli.

[06:00]

So you really have to, … if you have assumptions about jews, you have to use them to build a predictive pattern recognition.

And so moving forward here, I’m doing well in the polls, because of my ability to understand how to jews will respond to the things I do. So you can read some people that talk about jewish supremacism, and often, when they would speak, they would first include in their initial comments some of the perceived responses they were going to get from jews, or supporters of jews, and deconstruct them before they were able to use the talking point. So, predictive potential is really the key to measuring whether the value of any type of categorization, or theory, that lead you to expect certain outcomes, given certain behaviors.

[07:02]

Ford: So, when did you become an Alt-Right activist? I believe you were at Charlottesville, correct? The big Charlottesville.

Little: Well, I don’t subscribe to any labels. And I understand that Alt-Right means, people that are willing to speak about jewish power, and that will address jewish supremacism and the negative externalities on Whites, but that’s not what I do.

When you understand the historical role in world slavery that the jews have played, as a people. And I’m not going to do the disclaimer “not all jews”, because if we were talking about Chinese fighting the Japanese, we wouldn’t say some Chinese, or some Japanese, prior to World War Two. If we were talking about the North Vietnamese during the Vietnam War, we wouldn’t say “well not all North Vietnamese” every time, after every sentence.

So yeah, I understand how jewish supremacism hurts everyone, and I even have some jewish supporters, because I even admit how jewish supremacism in the long run, or perhaps in the near term, is also going to affect jews. [08:03] Even the ones that don’t participate in the elites that establish discriminatory practices and pathologizations of people who discuss jewish supremacism. Sorry, that’s a “pathologization”. I think that’s the way [to say it].

Ford: Yeah, makes sense to me. But, if it’s not “Alt-Right“, how about just, “White advocacy”? When did you start showing up at events, because, I followed the Alt-Right moderately closely, and it was only about six weeks ago that I first heard of you. So, I didn’t realize you were at Charlottesville II, when it became this national news story. So I doubt that was your first White advocacy event.

[09:00]

Little: Well, I have to remind you again, here, I’m a “civil rights advocate“! I advocate for the rights of all men, and all peoples. I’m standing up for the Asian-American community in California, and they’re grateful. They’re sick of the discrimination of against them in the universities.

End College Admissions Discrimination Against Asians and Whites! (Click image to enlarge)

I’m standing up for the Arabs of Americans that are sick of Hollywood casting Arabs since the 60s, as demonically possessed villains from Marvel Comics, or something like that! [laughing] I you remember that movie True Lies, that was the image I had of Arabs, until I met them. I didn’t even know there were Christian Arabs a few years back. Well I knew there were a few, but I didn’t realize how many there were.

And so, I am a White advocate, but I’m also an Asian advocate, and I’m also a black advocate. I’m an advocate for all groups that have historically and contemporarily suffer from jewish supremacism and the externalities of it. We can go into the historical role of jews in the African slave trade and the White slave trade.

[10:01]

When there’s an oppressor, a group of tyrants, these jewish supremacists, it isn’t that helpful for one segment of the population says, this is what these tyrants are doing, and, by the way, there’s another group I don’t like, because of X reason, my reason.

You know, how is that productive when you’re trying to restore Liberty to a country, and restore the rule of law, and constitutional law, and our Bill of Rights. Those things which are being taken from us, those inalienable rights, as our founding fathers understood.

So I’m a civil rights advocate! And I’m also someone who believes in the original intent of this country’s constitution in terms of the Bill of Rights. And I’m not going to allow myself to be typecast, to simply alt-right, or White advocate. I wouldn’t be getting the response from these various communities these disparate and desperate communities that are filled [fed] up with this jewish supremacism.

[11:00]

And so I was at Charlottesville protesting the taking down of a monument to a man who was one of the greatest generals, strategist, and tactician, in American history. Who opposed slavery, and prevented things like Sherman’s march from occurring in Virginia, which was actually the origin of the term “final solution”, according to Ryan Dawson. I’ll give credit where it’s due. This man is a buff!

Ford: Okay. So civil rights advocate. When did you become an activist for civil rights? Like what was the first events that you went to? Was it Charlottesville?

Little: Oh, let’s see. No, the first event I went to was an “Act for America” event which based on my understanding of “Act for America”, it is extremely pro-Israeli. So I figured if the name of the organization was Act for America, the rally should be advocating America and America first. So this was about seven months after I’d woken up to the jewish Question.

[12:01]

This was the week the 50th anniversary of the USS Liberty having been sunk.

So I thought, you know, people mentioned this event to me, and so I will go, and I will make a memorial to the USS Liberty and their crew, and in the crew of that ship. And so I built a float on a fold-out wagon. I assembled it at home once, and then without putting the nails and just holding it together with, what are those zip ties, and with that tape.

See: Andrew Hitchcock – Erasing the Liberty – The 50th Anniversary Of Israel’s Attack On America — TRANSCRIPT

And I said okay everything fits together, so I took it back apart like a mail-order Sears house 100 years ago. And then at four in the morning I arrived at the parking lot near the event. And I arrived before the security did. It took me about two hours to put the float together. On one side was a picture of the USS Liberty under attack by Israeli fighter bombers, portraying after they had deployed napalm.

[13:00]

Cannon fire rockets against the USS Liberty. I believe that the artwork also portrays the results of the torpedo attack too. And at the top of it I put “Israeli terror”. I called evil by it’s name. I said what it was, it was an Israeli false flag attack designed to frame the Egyptian Arabs.

That was not the first time they’ve done that, by the way, but this was the first time that succeeded in carrying out an attack. But they did not succeed in making a false flag, they just managed to cover it up. And then on the other side I portrayed how Israel is still tied in very much with terrorist groups. Part of it was a placard on the back side of this, also four feet by four feet, commemorating the USS Cole. The bombing that happened in the Middle East there, of one of our US naval vessels. And then people would say:

 

“Well why do you have that there, when you’re talking about Israeli terror attack?”

And then I would bring up the traditional alliance there has been between Israel and al-Qaeda, and al-Nusra, and ISIS. [14:00] And play people, for example, on my mobile device I had with me the clips of the Israelis in Parliament talking about how much they loved ISIS, and how they needed to support ISIS, so that they could topple the secular government of Bashar al-Assad

And so I arrived there with these supplies and built this around six in the morning I finished constructing it. I was very tired, hadn’t slept, but I powered right through that lack of sleep. And I talked to the security guards that arrived there for Act for America, there were like “Three Percenters”. I’m not sure if they were part of the “Three Percenters” group, but there were patriot types. And they said:

“Well, what you got there young man?”

And so I showed them and I pointed it out. I said look this up. This attack happened, they tried to cover it up, and I said two days ago was the 50th anniversary, or three days ago, I am not sure what day the event was on. It was within a week of the 50th anniversary of the USS Liberty false flag terrorist attack. And they said:

“Okay, story checks out!”

And I’m like, yeah I’m a Marine Corps vet. This is a memorial, 50th year anniversary of this terrorist attack, and two-thirds of the ship was casualties.

[15:00]

So they said:

“Good to go marine! Go ahead, and you can display that here.”

And, because it was a anti-Sharia in the West event and I was trying to show that radical Islamic groups were being backed by Israel, so to address Islamic terrorism you had to address the Israeli role in it. And I had woken up to the fact that most Muslims are very peaceful people, at this point. Which I didn’t understand that, until I understood the jewish Question.

And they also push the narrative in the news that you Muslims are just violent, terrible, people. Especially Fox News and conservative news. So, as the people began to arrive I was first in the conservative corner.

Patrick Little protesting at Roseville CA, 2017, against Israeli’s deliberate attack on the USS Liberty (click image to enlarge).

There were three corners, well there are four corners at the intersection. Antifa was on one, kind of like classical liberals and anti-war people, were on another. And then another corner there were like the “Act for American” people and the conservatives. So when the people started showing up, the liberal corner was growing bigger first, so I went across the street to them and towed my float around, and I got a lot of support from them. [16:01] And I said, you know, about the USS Liberty? And like, “of course, we do”. I said:

“That’s great! What do you think of Israel?”

It was:

“We hate Israel!”

I said:

“That’s great!”

So I talked with them for a bit. And so then I towed my float across the street, and someone for the SPLC [Southern Poverty Law Center] interviewed me when I was at the unoccupied corner of the intersection. But all they did was take pictures of my float and post that [to their] the website.

They didn’t actually put pictures of me. I gave them my full name and where I lived. I didn’t care, I was fearless at the time. And so then, after I did that brief interview on that unoccupied corner of the street, I went to the conservative side. And at first people said:

“Whoa! Whoa! I think you’re on the wrong side of the street with that!”

I said:

“No. I’m a Marine Corps veteran, and I believe in the original intent of the founding fathers, and I put America first! I don’t want to send a bunch of foreign aid overseas!”

And they said:

“Well, why do you have this leftist propaganda?”

And I said:

“This isn’t left, or right, this is a terrorist attack that happened. And there are a whole bunch of other terrorist attacks!”

[17:00]

So 15 minutes apiece, I would talk to baby boomer conservatives that came up that were curious. And one, after the other, they said:

“Wow! This really happened! This is amazing!”

And I gave them lists of books to read, including Dr. Kevin MacDonald’s “Culture of Critique”. I had them look into that the King David hotel bombing in 1947, and the Israeli terrorist attacks that have carried out by jewish supremacists against our NATO allies. Talked about the Lavon Affair. And I got interviewed a few more times by a few different people with cameras. None of them ever posted any of it! No one posted any pictures of me with the float. Just the float itself. Because I guess at that point they didn’t want me getting exposure.

It was around this time I decided that someone was going to have to challenge the jewish supremacist, Dianne Feinstein, who voted for things like the Iraq war, and continuously supports large weapons packages to Israel and Saudi Arabia which helps Israel supply the proxy terrorist groups, to help expand Israel.

And at that point I realized I was able to convince normal people on both the Left and the Right about the terrorist [18:01] state of Israel’s true nature! And there are also pro-White people there. I think some IE [Identity Evropa] guys. And some guys that read the Daily Stormer came by, and they said:

“Wow! Wow! This is great!”

And I said:

“Do, you know, about the US Liberty?”

They said:

“Are you crazy? Of course, we know!”

And I said:

“What about the Lavon Affair?”

They said:

“Yes.”

And some of them didn’t know about the King David hotel bombing, so I told them about that. And I told them, you know, they already know about Israel supporting ISIS, and Saudi Arabia working with Israel to support these radical groups that commit genocide against ethnic and religious minorities in the Middle East.

And yeah, at that point I realized that I was going to get involved in politics, whether I was going to help figure out who was going to run against Feinstein, and these other people that vote for the neoconservative wars aggression for Israel. Or, I was going to run myself. In October, a few months later, I announced my candidacy. And at that point, I said:

 

“Okay, I will run until I find someone better to take my place before the nomination process.”

[19:01]

Nobody, not even someone I would consider not to be my better, stepped up wanting to run. And I said:

“I’ll do it myself!”

And I had gone out Uber and Lyft driving, for some months. When I have spare time I’d be reading books on history, and philosophy, and historical jewish crimes. And I was able to test who was the most receptive to my message of human rights for all, as opposed to privilege for jewish supremacists.

And Asians were very receptive, Arabs were very receptive, the Assyrians there was nothing I couldn’t have already told them, for the most part! They knew all this stuff. And there were Maronites who were receptive, Greek Orthodox, Palestinians, Muslim Palestinians, Muslims who were Sunni and Shia, all around. It seemed the only people that didn’t agree with me were conservative Whites. And, at this point, I said:

“Well, if you love this country, and you believe in the original intent of the founding fathers, that includes foreign policy!”

So I said:

 

“The most dangerous threat we have in this world right now is the nation of Israel, which illegally possesses nuclear weapons, made from nuclear weapons grade uranium they stole from us. And in the process of stealing it created a Superfund site, that’s poisoning parts of Pennsylvania. Thanks Israel!”

[20:03]

And they’re now threatening the world with their nuclear weapons, which they don’t officially admit that they have! And, at this point, unless I’m able to win over the Republicans, who are the last holdout of brainwashed support for these jewish supremacists, we’re facing some very dire consequences for the world, if these jewish supremacists aren’t stripped of their illegal nuclear weapons program.

So if you vote for me on June 5th in California I will do what I can to have the nuclear facilities of the terrorist nation of Israel, occupied by US troops, hunt down and destroy any nuclear weapons capabilities that the Israelis have. Repossess our stolen nuclear uranium, even if it’s in the form of a warhead. [21:01] And make Israel sign a treaty stating that they’ll repay all of the aid they’ve ever received from us with interest.

In that package will be reparations for African-Americans who were taken captive by the jewish supremacist controlled slave markets in North, and South, America as ways as well as Arabia in North Africa. And yeah, at that point Israel will be a non-nuclear power, and they will no longer be able to threaten the world with terrorism, or nuclear “Holocaust”.

And I think at that point we can start cleaning the house of foreign agents that are active in this country for lobbies for foreign countries. And at that point we can put America first, and have a healthy foreign policy, and hopefully a whole lot less wars.

Ford: Who was the person who first introduced you to “Culture of Critique” and persuaded you to read it?

[22:00]

Little: It was a group of people that asked me to defend my ideas. And my ideas were some incoherent mess of leftover stuff from what I used to attend pro-Israeli churches in the South, Fox News, Mark Levin, Michael Savage. So I had a bunch of other people’s ideas, because I really didn’t want to address the jewish Question objectively, because I was afraid of just knee-jerk reaction. Anything anytime I heard anything negative about jews, they just looked away.

And so I finally got shamed into objectively analyzing a book about jewish supremacism by Dr. Kevin MacDonald, their group evolutionary strategy. And it was the book! So there was a group of people on WeSearchr, that said:

 

“Pat — or whatever my handle was at the time — if you really believe this stuff about Israel, if you really believe they are the democratic canary in the coal mine, our emissary of American democracy to the Middle East, even though I knew democracy was a farce over a republic, then read this book, and come back to us. We’ll have a discussion.”

And so I read the book trying to disprove it. Couldn’t disprove any of it. I’ve said this story like 20 times now. [23:02] And to and behold, I stopped holding jews to a higher double, second standard, treated them objectively. And the result of my understanding of this tyrannical group of people that have caused so much pain and destruction in this world, given their control over the commanding heights of our economy, and subculture making institutions, has led me to what I’m doing now. The only way to advocate for civil rights for all, is to address jewish supremacism! And that’s exactly what I’m doing.

Ford: And what were the most important books for you after “Cultural of Critique”, regarding the jewish Question?

Little: So, I would say, Henry Ford’s “The International jew”. That was very eye-opening, because they talked about, extensively, about different measures that the jewish lobbies were taking as early as the 19th century. Let’s see, “Hitler’s Revolution” was particularly interesting, and David Irving’s writings and videos, as well. Ernst Zundel. [24:02] Once you, … I wasn’t fully deprogrammed after “Cultural of Critique”. I still was a fervent believer in this “Holocaust” thing, the way it was portrayed in “Schindler’s List”. And at that point they said:

“Okay Pat, now go watch David Irving and try and disprove his stuff!”

And I realized the only evidence against David Irving, and Ernst Zundel, stuff were jews reciting other jews, who would cite ten times removed, originally just jews who gave testimonials after the Second World War, or forced confessions of German officers and members of the government that had been tortured! So I realized there, the proof is not on these guys to prove that the “Holocaust” happened, the proof is on people to prove that there is evidence that the “Holocaust” occurred.

[25:00]

And when you say “some jews died during World War Two”, that is not what we were taught in school. I was taught that there were a “roller coasters of death” on the way to ovens designed to achieve high G’s to snap jews’ necks before they were dumped into an oven, before their heart stopped beating! I mean, we’re talking about brainwashing and conditioning, and this is the reason why I wasn’t willing to look into the jewish Question. It’s emotional conditioning! And the only way to overcome it is with a strong moral commitment to the truth, and objectivity!

Ford: Where did you learn about roller coasters operating at such high G’s, that snapped jews’ necks?

Little: The same place I learned about pedal-powered brain-bashing machines, and electric swimming pools, and swimming pools full of acid, and gas chambers that gassed hundreds of jews at a time, that can be reloaded up with more jews once every few minutes! Elementary school! It’s elementary my dear Watson! Brainwashing camp where we all fell victim to this crap!

[26:00]

Ford: And you talk about WeSearchr, but I mean, there are quite a few jews there, quite a few Zionists there, so was there like a kulturkampf, that you noticed at WeSearchr, or what did you notice? I mean, surely they were warring camps? Some must have been quite pro-jewish, others more counter-jewish?

Little: So originally, Peter Bello was trying to wake me up to the jewish Question in a more controlled fashion. So, he had also encouraged me to read the “Culture of Critique”. He is the jew himself, he told me he was 100 percent ashkenazi [jew]. And so, he wanted me to look into Israel and see how evil Israel! But when I finally looked into this stuff he said:

“Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! You can’t throw out the baby with the bath water!”

Or something like that.

“You can’t go to war with all jews.”

And I said:

“Well, why do you always have to disqualify things, with “not all jews”, “not all jews”? You never say that about any other group of people that’s doing something in the main, or in the norm.”

So at that point a bunch more Zionist jews were invited onto the server to take the place of the goyim who were waking up. [27:02] And at that point it became “jews versus non-jews” in terms of the argument, whether, or not, jews were subversive outside of the Zionist lobby. And the answer was clearly yes! There were no debates to be had, they would mute people, those people would get fed up and leave.

And I did not know at the time, until a few months ago, when I talked to Paul Nehlen, he was one of those guys! [laughing] So yes, the same people who had tried to do like a controlled awakening with Paul Nehlen, and he also realized this is more than just Zionism, this is jewish supremacism! If we’re not willing to discuss things like Boaz’s role in destroying the biological group identity of ethnic Europeans.

They were not willing to discuss Freud’s destruction of White family units, intentionally. They said outside the Zionism stuff the rest of this is really, not real arguments. And there’s no such thing as a controlled awakening.

[28:00]

Once you lift the stigma, the wool from your eyes, in terms of looking objectively at a group, you’re not just going to look at what the people who took the wool off your eyes, or helped take it off, want you to look at. I mean, at that point you’re curious! You’re gonna prod around, because, at this point, it becomes new and exotic! I mean, there wasn’t any major field that I was interested in that I hadn’t looked into, since I was, you know, a young child.

This was like discovering biology, or, you know, some chapter of history for the first time. A very critical one that actually has been the force behind the last few hundred years of history, the course of events that have taken. So yeah, it’s fascinating!

And when you wake up to it’s a, you know, different people achieve different levels of anger and rage. Some people have to be talked out of being reciprocal of some of the treatment we’ve gotten! Because, of course, that would be used to make more jew protecting laws like they had in the Soviet Union, where you have the death penalty for criticizing jews. So, you know, yeah sorry, I’m going into something I would talk about later if we went down that path. No, go ahead.

[29:03]

Ford: Where was Chuck Johnson? Wasn’t he at least the head of WeSearchr, and what was his attitude towards this?

Little: When a lot of us started bringing up the JQ he entered on and said:

“Technically, I’m jewish, because my mother converted.”

We said:

“No! That doesn’t make you jewish! You can’t get citizenship in Israel with that.”

Just like you. Unless they wanted to pull some sort of publicity stunt with you to grant you Israeli citizenship as a convert. In the norm they’re going to reject almost every single person who’s a convert to Judaism, even if they’re orthodox, or Chabad. Well, I don’t think they’d let you in a Chabad temple a regular. [Ford bursts out laughing]

Ford: I’m sorry, so Chuck, did Chuck want to shut it down? Did Chuck encourage your research into the JQ?

[30:00]

Little: I had been a big fan of Chuck, because he, and his group WeSearchr had been spearheading the early analysis of WikiLeaks vault dumps when they came out. He had been spearheading a lot of the research with some of his researchers on there, into some of Trump’s political opponents. And we uncovered some great stuff, and we also had some great big Twitter accounts in there too that would then distribute this information to the public. And so, it was a very effective mechanism.

And I thought, you know, I was thinking I need to meet this man, this great American hero, Chuck. And it turns out if you started asking certain questions about the jews, he would politely ask you not to. But aside from that, he was like an absentee father for the group. He was barely there. It was a face, because of the publicity he had garnered taking down one particular mudslinging news organization that would go up to your window and take pictures of you while you’re in your home against the law.

Forget what it’s called, it’ll come back to me. I can’t remember. Look up the organization that Chuck Johnson helped to take down, around the time when Hulk Hogan was taken on xxx. News organization. I forget what it’s called.

Ford: Oh, Gawker!

Little: Yes! Yes! Yes. So Chuck Johnson had made his name with Gawker.

[31:02]

Ford: Funny, Chuck was in the news a few months ago, for going to Donald Trump’s State of the Union address with the Republican congressman, and the news media was calling Chuck Johnson a “Holocaust” denier! Does that accord with what, you know, about Chuck Johnson?

Little: From what I can recall, even the jews at WeSearchr admitted that the “Holocaust” was a lie.

Ford: Have you ever visited Dachau, or Auschwitz?

Little: I don’t need to, to know the facts of people who have, that are historians. I would like to! You want to buy me a plane ticket there, I’ll go! I’m not going to go pretend to cry in the shower that’s “labeled never used as a gas chamber”! I’m not gonna give you any crocodile tears, … if I win the Senate, I’m not gonna be like that congressman after Trump elected, that literally got on a plane to Auschwitz and started doing crocodile tears with Vicks Vapour-Rub in his eyes, or something like that!

[32:00]

“Oh my God! This room! Millions of jews were killed with gas!

Ford: Only vey!

Little: Oy vey! You remember that guy, that congressman? [laughing]

Ford: No I don’t, but, that is a pretty, pretty funny anecdote!

Little: Yeah.

Ford: Why were you working as a Uber driver, when, I mean, you’re a really smart guy were you going through a tough time, or were you discombobulated by the red pill, or what?

Little: Oh, the red pill wrecked me!

Ford: Yeah. [laughing]

Little: Even before I fully swallowed it, things stopped making sense, and I doubled down on the pro-Israeli propaganda, and stuff. And it got to a point where there was like, a crescendo, where I’m just like going back [and forth], this is true! It isn’t! It can’t be true! It’s true! I can’t just prove any of it! And at that point it was like, it was like a searing hot rage, that I really, I would never want to be that angry again in my life, ever again! [33:03] I had to actually consciously hold myself back from just going out on the street with a megaphone and yelling about jews! I wanted the world to know! I wanted to get on the mountain top, and tell everyone. And that would not have been the tactical way to do it. So I held myself back, mostly stayed on my boat, and said:

“I need to learn more! Because this is just the tip of the iceberg.”

Ford: And did you have any jewish friends, at this point?

Little: No. But I had in the past.

Ford: And upon reflection do you notice anything unusual about them?

Little: I was able to reflect back to my childhood and I called a buddy of mine from the same town and I said, you know, —, because we both read the book at the same time and we started listing off who we knew had been jewish. I only knew of one kid and then he pointed out like four other kids that had [were] jewish.

[34:00]

And I said:

“Oh my god!”

And started remembering the behavior, and stuff. One of the typical things as they weren’t good at losing games, they felt privileged. I recalled one event where one of them had said:

“Okay, I’ll play this video game with you.”

And it was a video game I had taken much pride in, a strategy game. And he was not able to beat me! He challenged me, four, or five times, and every time I demolished his ship within a few turns. And he just couldn’t accept it, because he hadn’t done anything wrong! And most of them we identified them as having an overwhelming sense of privilege, and an inability to accept defeat, or any type of adversity. So there were certain behaviors. Spoiled, so to say. And that might come from a socio-economic thing, but we do think it has something to do with the camps [summer] and stuff they probably attended as kids.

[35:02]

Ford: Are there any other behavioural giveaways that people could realize that they’re dealing with a jew, even though the guy’s name might be, you know, John Smith?

Little: Yeah. They appear on television! [both laughing]

Ford: And you had friends, you’re going through these radical changes. Were your friends trying to hold you back, were they encouraging you?

Little: Chip! Chip! Chip! Changes! [singing a song] God! Oh no! It was not a pleasant time. Mostly it was just me exercising self-control, and not seeking revenge. So there are going to be a lot of people who wake up, they’re going to be at risk for taking some sort of vengeance.

And let me tell you, if you’re listening to this and you’re waking up and you’re in that red-hot searing rage, if you’re a hard charger like I was, do what I did! [36:02] Just hunker down and read more about them and look at how they have used, … when they, in the absence of people attacking them, physically they false-flag themselves, like the young jewish man who was operating on a multi-million shekel budget over in Israel, calling in the false flag bomb threats, United States synagogues and stuff. We saw for three years:

“Oh my god! Another bomb threat against a synagogue! Another one against this one! White supremacist just threatening jews all over the place!”

 

And it turns out almost every one of these bomb threat hoaxes have been this jew, who was operating with all sorts of savvy gear over in Israel, most definitely as part of some sort of group. And then they tried to, the FBI did what they could to try and extradite him, but then they shut it down and said:

[37:00]

Oh no, he’s just an autistic kid, who was a troll in his room! He was doing it all by himself! And he’s autistic, and he’s mentally retarded! And so we can’t extradite him.”

And so, after some pressure from probably some politicians that receive money from certain people, “people”, “people”, you know, they backed down from trying to extradite him. And ya, so don’t give them an actual hate crime. Just keep on letting them do their own false flag hoaxes, and scream out in pain as they pretend to stab themselves. It’s much funnier that way. And that will remove them from power much quicker than if you actually act on your rage. It will pass. Be intelligent, be learned.

See: The Realist Report Interviews Paul Nehlen – Mar 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Do what I and some other goyim, like Paul Nehlen are doing, and “naming the jew” very publicly, very loudly. Normalize the conversation, until we wake up all the people from this sleep there in, where they won’t look behind the biggest door in the world. Where they won’t, where they keep their eyes averted from the elephant in the room. [chuckling]

[38:01]

Ford: When did you first encounter Paul Nehlen?

Little: I didn’t know I was encountering him, when I first did. He was a part of the [WeSearchr] team helping to uncover election fraud in Philadelphia. So the first time I remember talking to him is around the time of the election. But I didn’t know it was him until a few months ago.

Ford: And did you, a few months ago was when he tweeted a picture of “Culture of Critique”, and saying that he was reading it. Was that about the time that he came out to you?

Little: He didn’t come out to me! He’s a fervent Christian! [chuckling]

Ford: I mean, not in a gay way, but in a jew wise way?

Little: I don’t recall the first time I talked to him, knowing his real name. I think it was March, maybe February?

Ford: And what’s your read on Paul Nehlen?

Little: Well, we saw his red pilling in real-time, so he was very public. He was a public figure at the [39:01] time running for Ryan’s [Paul Ryan] seat, and he let the world see the, … There’s a poem in German:

“Es gibt oft, aber nicht immer, das Glühen der glühenden Glut eines Ofens.”

 

“There is often, but not always, the glow of the red hot embers of a furnace”

[both laughing] So you saw the red hot embers right there, just radiating out. So you can literally see the laser beams coming out of his eyes! This guy was waking up in real time, and you saw the rage that comes with that! Which, you know, like I said, like I advise, if you’re just now waking up and if you’re first allowing yourself to look at jews objectively, do it someplace privately!

So, he was not a position where he could do that, and we watched him in real time slowly become more and more awakened to the truth of our political reality. And you saw the rage that went with it!

[40:00]

And I gotta be honest, if I had done publicly the thoughts I was having, I would have made Paul Newman’s awakening look like a toddler throwing a softball! Yeah, I spent hours on the phone screaming at someone that had also read the book, it was a very, very, violent awakening! But luckily I did it privately.

Ford: Did you have friends saying, you know:

 

“Patrick, you shouldn’t talk about these things! You shouldn’t think about these things. You’re ruining your life, buddy!”

Little: I reached out to a comrade from the Marine Corp. And yes, I had plenty of those people. But there was one man who was very intelligent in the Marine Corps that would talk to you about anything. And I was like him, we were kind of kindred spirits. And we would both talk about anything in philosophy, in history, and such. And I reached out to him and I said:

“Dude, I’m going through a thing right now! Read this book and tell me I’m wrong!”

And he’s like:

“What are you talking about?”

And I said:

“You wouldn’t believe the stuff I believe now! Read this book and walk me back, because I don’t want to believe this stuff!”

[41:02]

See: Luke Ford with MacDonald Vs Cofnas On Culture Of Critique – Mar 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

And so, this gentleman went out, purchased a copy of “Cultural of Critique”. Within a few days he was on chapter two, or three. And just the conversations were like:

“Wow! This can’t be true! This is crazy!”

I said:

“Fact check it! Send me a list of the things you can disprove.”

And he said:

“Okay!”

And he got to the “Frankfurt School” [Chapter 5 — The Frankfurt School of Social Research and the Pathologization of Gentile Group Allegiances], which is where I just pulled down the whole wool for my eyes and said:

“This stuff’s true! I can’t disprove any of it. And this is insane how bad this is for Whites, and other races!”

And he got to the Frankfurt School. He called me and he said:

“If this stuff’s true, I don’t want to know! Don’t call me again!”

And he hasn’t answered the phone since.

Ford: Well!

Little: Yeah.

Ford: That’s kind of sad that someone can’t man up to face things like that.

[42:02]

Little: Well the guy had a great job and, you know, if you truly swallow the red pill, and that is just a metaphor for looking at jews objectively, there’s no way to keep cool! I mean, I could have put down Culture of Critique when I started to have the tremors go through my world, and the fault lines were opening.

What happened in the following four to six months was a complete inventory of all of my beliefs. I asked, you know, that this logic I’ve had, this conclusion I’ve reached about this group, or whatever, and this included reexamining my beliefs and perspective on Muslims, my beliefs and perspectives on African-Americans. I became far less critical of non-White groups, other than jews, after this awakening.

I re-examined my entire basket of beliefs, and perspectives, on different issues. And at that point, I had to throw a lot of stuff out and rethink a bunch of stuff. And, at this point, I said:

“Well, I can’t believe how incited I was against, as a proxy, as a Fox News viewer, against the traditional, or contemporary competitors for resources in the Middle East and other people that can challenge jewish supremacist power all over the world.”

And it involved looking back at history, my whole history. I had already known that there was bad on both sides of the Civil War, but I had already known about some of the slave trade under Roman times, and stuff.

And if you had told me two years ago that the slave trade all over the world was completely dominated by jews, going back thousands of years, I would have called you crazy! You know, there were brief spurts like when the Golden Horde was going around and stuff, where it wasn’t jewish controlled. But in terms of established markets for slavery that lasted more than a generation, were essentially all jewish.

[44:02]

And, you know, I became far less critical of Whites as I had done in the past. If you can find anyone from WeSearchr that remembers me, I would say things like:

“Oh! Hitler was just an asshole! If you want to be pro-White you can’t talk about jews, etc.,”

So I had to re-examine all of my beliefs and hold them up to the flame of truth and see whether, or not, they survived the fire of truth. It’s all-consuming and if you hold yourself up to the flames of truth, only the truth will survive! The slag, and that you were programming and all that, will melt away, like slag as the pig iron turns into pure iron, and then steel.

Ford: Have you read “Siege” by James Mason?

Little: Yes. I was concerned by a lot of the stuff I was seeing from younger guys that had woken up, much younger than me. And a lot of them were just going for something that was a very, very, … I mean, do you know, “Insane Clown Posse” and “Marilyn Manson”, and such.

[45:02]

Ford: Yeah, edgy!

Little: And so, while there were valid critiques of society, and stuff, contained in Marilyn Manson and groups like “Insane Clown Posse”, and stuff, the whole point of it was “shock value”, right? Now I did read James Mason’s “Siege” and there were some bits in there that were quite informative, because I was researching people who had stood up to jewish supremacism in the past. And this guy had come to, like an al-Qaeda version of how to operate, based on how quickly any group that challenges jewish supremacism would be destroyed.

So it’s interesting, because he proposes a leaderless reaction to jewish supremacism, which would be very difficult to stamp out. So, that I think that book will become very relevant, if we’re not able to remove the jewish supremacists from power. As they [46:01] have passed laws, like they have in South Carolina against University students, and staff, being able to criticize Israel, and question certain narratives about the “Holocaust”.

So yeah, what I would like is for that book not to become relevant. Although there are some things I learned from it, like “movementarianism”. It has helped me understand some people that have carved out niches talking about edgy stuff, without actually challenging jewish power in an effective way. So there are some people that have podcast and stuff, you know, the people that were, two years ago, doing shows about SJW’s, will now talk about jews, and stuff. But in an unproductive fashion. To come off as overly hateful, and stuff. And get subscribers, and stuff, the same way newsletters used to be subscribed through checks through the mail. And so they called those “movementarians”.

People that try to profit off from the suffering of those people who are aware of the jewish Question. And so there are some valuable things in that book, but, of course, you have to remember the stuff [47:02] about Satan, and with Marilyn, not Marilyn Manson, Charlie Manson. That stuff. You have to remember this is designed to attract kids the same way that Insane Clown Posse, or Marilyn Manson, or something, would have been the nineties.

Ford: What about the “Turner Diaries” by William Pierce? Did you have a look at that?

Little: Yes I did read that. Many, many people that were in the jewish press, read that. But to me, stuff like that is very nihilistic. It’s saying that no matter what you do, it’s always going to be “Emmanuel Goldstein controlled opposition” so you have to just go full whatever, lone wolf, or whatever. And that once again is a worst case scenario, if the jews are allowed to pass laws against criticizing jews in this country. I fear it would come to something like that, and it’s not something I advocate.

[48:00]

Ford: Now it’s interesting that the Alt-Right leadership has, by and large, maintained a wall of silence about you. From The Right Stuff podcasting network, to the Daily Stormer, to Alt-Right dot com. By, I think Counter-Currents. I think they all have maintained a complete wall of silence. I haven’t read every single, …

Little: That is changed. Some of these organizations have invited me to come speak at some of their events. So, that’s no longer the case. But I’ll engage with, … I’m not trying to be a someone who becomes like a figurehead, or has a fan base, or something. I’m trying to remove jewish supremacists from power in this country.

Now, some groups are kind of like “cult of personality”, “fanboy” stuff, and that’s not all of them. Some of them. I’ll figure out all the personality drama and stuff later. Right now I’m trying to win an election. And advocate for civil rights for all people, in such a way that jewish supremacism can no longer survive in this country, and hopefully, eventually globally!

[49:00]

Ford: Yeah, but it’s interesting that the most anti-jewish fo, pro-White websites were, at least until recently, maintaining a wall of silence against you. What do you think they were thinking? Let’s say they’ve changed their mind now. What do you think caused them to change their mind?

Little: I don’t know. I don’t pay attention to this stuff! I don’t even have time to watch the news most the time. I’m so busy coordinating a campaign. Although I would like to come back to these topics after the election.

Ford: Okay, great. So, how are the jews reacting to you? What are they doing?

Little: Oh, I’ll talk to them, if they want to talk to me. I sat down with the jewish reporter. And at the end, it was pretty much a plea for me, on his own behalf, saying:

 

“You have to realize, the longer that jewish supremacists try and hold on to power, more likely the worse their removal from power will be.”

So yeah, if you watched the end of that, … I would rather you just watch the end of that, and give a response to that, rather than me reproducing that here.

[50:00]

Ford: Okay. What was the name of the reporter, so I can find it on YouTube?

Little: I don’t remember, … YouTube deletes my stuff. So, if the view count gets above like a few hundred, they just delete it most of the time. So yeah, it’s on Bitchute. Go to my website. At the bottom is a link to the archive of my blogs. If you scroll down you’ll find it.

Ford: Okay, great.

Little: Sit down with a jewish reporter, or something like that. I taped it with video, not just audio, with his permission.

Ford: So there must be a variety of strategies that organized jewry is using to deal with you. Can you share with us any of the strategies that they’re trying on you?

Little: So, my family has asked me not to talk about them, but I can tell you, intimidating my family has been one of their tactics. You have to remember, when you’re dealing with jews, their leadership tends to be jewish supremacist, terrorists! It’s goes back to before World War Two with Meyer Lansky [a jewish gangster and head of organized crime at the time]. And I’m not just going to say jewish supremacist, but jews traditionally rely on terror.

[51:01]

And you can go back to before Christ — look at this too — you can look during the Bible, jews, as a group, their most favored method of dealing with resource competitors is terrorism, and cloak-and-dagger type stuff. So yeah, I’ve been dealing with the blowback from challenging the Zionist Occupied Government, and that’s something I’m going to deal with personally. But I hope that everything works out for me and all of my family. And God help the jews if they hurt any of my family! God help them!

Ford: You made a video about a month ago that you deleted, or YouTube deleted. And you made a series of pretty damning accusations against Mike Enoch, Weev, Andrew Anglin, Ricky Vaughn, and Pax Dickinson. Was it you who pulled the video down, or was YouTube that pulled the video down, or what’s the story on that video?

[52:02]

Little: So I tried to bait people from TRS and Daily Stormer, to have a public discussion with me, like some of them had had privately, and they wouldn’t do it. So after that, I didn’t get a response. And then people were focusing on that, instead of the campaign.

So YouTube did not allow me to delete the video and I have screenshots of that for like a month after I had planned out taking it down, during the week experiment, I did trying to draw out a public conversation about why they were marginalizing Cantwell, and ignoring him, and marginalizing and ignoring Nehlen.

I wasn’t able to have the discussion, and at that point, as soon as I was able to take down the video, I did. And that was like a week, or two ago. And I’ve been focused completely on the campaign ever since that week of me trying to draw out this public discussion.

Ford: There’s a question in the chat room:

“Ask Patrick about Elon Musk and the media?

I think Elon Musk wrote a tweet the other day saying “who owns the newspapers”. Do you have any thoughts?

Little: [chuckling] Why don’t you ask Elon Musk?

[53:00]

Ford: Okay. So you’re running a campaign. What does that mean? How do you divvy up your time, how do you campaign?

Little: So up until around the CA GOP event, at the beginning of May, it was just me, and an IT volunteer, and some other people, that were waiting for volunteers. And after the CA GOP event, they began showing up. As coastal ballots were going out and such.

And so I’ve spent most of the last three weeks coordinating the new volunteers, on boarding and assistant, with different types of assistance. But one primary, one secondary. And I’ve got now a writing team, I’ve got a social media team, I’ve got a team for outreach to other victim groups of jewish supremacism. I’ve got all sorts of different types of volunteers, with all sorts of different backgrounds. A web development team. I’ve got guys that take [54:00] care of servers, and preventing DDoS [Denial of Service] attacks, and all sorts of stuff.

So I’ve got a little army now of people that are willing to help me get the truth out! Because before, I was getting three, or four, hours of sleep at night trying to keep up with all my email, my social media schedule, and journalists. I was dropping the ball all over the place, like that first half of May. And now if I migrated my email to a secure platform. We’ve migrated all the stuff to where it’s safe from most of the low-hanging fruit, in terms of interference against my campaign.

Ford: What about in person? Are you knocking on doors, speaking at rallies?

Little: We’re saving that for after I come in the top two in the primary. Because my events will be attacked by antifa, other such groups. And the media will report on it, but only the camera angles and stuff that makes people defending themselves look like they’re acting aggressively.

So events will be held on private ground, and private locations, but they are coming.

Yeah I’m been looking into a primary vote-count-return-night party. We’re looking at some of that stuff.

But right now, the most cost-effective way is utilizing the stuff on the Internet. I’ve received something a little more than 2,000 dollars, and I’m spending that. First I had to buy some equipment to make sure my? ? ? and all that, was safe.

And now I’m buying robocalls. Which is my first robocall. [An automated telephone call which delivers a recorded message, typically on behalf of a political party or telemarketing company.] I was not affiliated with the first one, which got some coverage. I didn’t know that was coming out, or had come out, until the reporter contacted me for comment. And yeah, I’m gonna be printing out some posters and stuff. So yeah, the little bit of money I have received is getting put to good use! And booking a venue right now would wipe out my tiny little, I wouldn’t even call it a war chest.

So yeah, I don’t have money to pay for security, or large enough venue that would be protected from attacks by people that don’t want me talking about jewish supremacism. So yeah that we’re saving that for after the primary.

[56:01]

Ford: Two thousand dollars! Is that all the money you’ve raised? I mean, that’s surprisingly little!

Little: I’ve raised something like, … Well I stopped asking for donations for a bit, because I put links to the FEC website, and stuff. And said, send me checks, you know, make sure they’re FEC compliant, and stuff.

And one guy sent me a money order for a thousand bucks and I have to, tomorrow, I have to call somebody that knows something about the law and ask what do I do with this thousand dollar money order that has no return address? It seems like bait to me! You know, I cash this, I go to “pound me in the butt hole prison”!

So yeah, I’m being very cautious. I’ve received something a little over three thousand, but in terms of what I can actually deposit and use for the campaign that’s FEC compliant, it’s a little over two thousand, or maybe $2,500.

Ford: I could probably get you some jewish money! If you just like modify your platform a little bit?

Little: I don’t want jewish money! [laughing]

Ford: Come on! Money is money! You can have a nice headquarters, you can have robocalls, and you can have colored secretaries! [speaking facetiously].

Little: I got 18% [in the polls] at the end of April without any money. All I paid was the registration fee, and I self-funded that, so. At this point, I’m not making any money, I’ve spent a lot of my own money, and I have to tabulate that up, because now as I approach the five thousand dollars in donations mark. I’m going to have to report to the FEC [The Federal Election Commission is an independent regulatory agency whose purpose is to enforce campaign finance law in United States federal elections]. I have something like twelve days after I reached the five thousand dollar mark.

So yeah, I have to sit down and spend hours then with FEC compliance, which I already made the FEC compliant checking account. I’ve already sat down and printed out, and filed, the FEC forms, and the SS4 forms for the IRS. So now, I have to send in not just the initial form, that I had filled out electronically, but I also have to send in like the detailed list of my expenses and stuff. So I have to go through all my receipts, organize it. I’m not looking forward to it!

[58:03]

Ford: Let me get some of my jewish friends to fund you! They’ll get you a quality accountant, [Little’s laughing] they’ll pay you a salary, so that you don’t have to be poor, you’ll be able to rent, you know, rent a suite at the Four Seasons! Fly by private plane, …

Little: I’ll probably be the only candidate in the country, other than like a handful of others, other than a small handful of candidates, I’m one of the few that is not beholden to jewish money, and the strings that come with it. So thanks, but no thanks!

Ford: I’ve only got your best interests at heart, goy!

Little: Oh, absolutely! I’m sure they want to put America first, right?

Ford: Absolutely! Let me get you some jew lawyers, some jew accountants, some jew campaigners! I mean, we’ll do you up proud!

Little: I’m good, thanks! Now, I know you’re being facetious, but it’s still good anyway.

Ford: My god! You must feel like you’re living in the middle of a whirlwind!

Little: Yeah. Well, I hope I’m not. I hope I’m not, because, in the eye of a whirlwind, I think there’s a break in the storm and then the wall of the whirlwind comes at you, and you’ve got 400 mile per hour wind shredding you with shards of wooden and bits of stone, spikes! I certainly hope I’m not in a whirlwind!

But I’m getting more sleep. I got six and a half, or seven hours last night. So yeah. I, you know, the only whirlwind is what’s happening to my personal life, and the bastards behind that are going to be held accountable in a legal manner, if I can figure out how to do it.

Ford: You know, I could probably hook you up with some people in Hollywood, and we could get a reality TV show out of this. And you’ll be off to like “monetize” your political experience, to launch your own reality TV show! Would you like your own reality TV show?

[60:02]

Little: Yeah just point me towards Weinstein’s dick, and I’ll suck it, right?

Ford: I think it’d be glorious! [laughing] I mean, it would be edgy content! People would tune in, you’d be like Ken Kardashian!

Little: No, no, hang on.

Ford: Okay, Craig writes:

“Luke, can you ask Patrick to address the Morpheus article being spread about, around about him?”

Never heard of it, but do, you know, anything about this?

Little: Link it and I’ll take a look at it.

Ford: Okay. I’ve never heard of it, but, ..,

Little: Oh! I think I’ve heard of this. Is this the guy that’s like trying to dox everyone in my family? And that he’s trying to confirm that I’m actually counter-semitic, or against jewish supremacism, and not a jew plant? No, I’ve seen this. It’s clever. So they like, do what they believe is a dox of all of my relatives and stuff. And then say:

“Well, you know, we’re just making sure he’s legit. We think he’s a fraud, so here’s the information, we think that’s true on all of his family and stuff!”

[61:03]

Yeah, no. Look carefully at that. Not someone investigating to see if I’m the real deal in terms of challenging jewish power. That’s someone just saying:

“Oh, here’s a dox.”

By another name.

Ford: Okay. So, your facts, … You tossed around a lot of very arresting things, that kind of make a normie just snap their head back. It’s like, how on earth could jews be, for example, running ISIS, …

Little: Now come on. You’re talking, … That’s a reaction from White people. Non-Whites don’t have this reaction.

Ford: That’s interesting. Could you develop that point?

Little: Yeah. When I said I was cruising around doing Lyft and Uber, giving people long airport rides, to see who reacted, and in what ways to different types of red pills, this was a statistical observation I made. I took notes. I can actually share the [62:00] screenshots I got from Uber, saying:

“We received another complaint that you’re talking about jews, or something, … [laughing] Hateful talk in the car,”

Or something. I don’t know. I didn’t get kicked off Uber, but I can imagine if I tried to turn on the driver app now, it’s probably not working!

Ford: [laughing] How many complaints did you get?

Little: At least two.

Ford: How on earth are you gonna be able to monetize this? Like what kind of job you’re gonna be able to get, … Let’s say you don’t win as US senator. Is it going to be hard to have a prosperous life after this campaign?

Little: Dude! You think I’m in this for the money? I’m going to be lucky if I come out this in one piece, with some of the threats I’ve been getting. I, at this point, I’m at war! In war you’re not saying:

 

“Oh! How am I gonna make sure I can monetize this battle?”

Dude! Come on! Get your head out of your butt! Look at what I’m doing! You think I’m doing this for money?

Ford: Okay. You talk about ISIS being controlled by jews. Where would people read about that? Where would people get some factual information?

See: Putin: Who Created ISIS? — TRANSCRIPT

Little: Give Ryan Dawson a call.

Ford: Okay. And that would be the same for jews controlling al-Qaeda, and jews controlling Saudi Arabia?

Little: Yep! I hope nothing happens to him first, for being a too big of a mouthpiece for this! But yeah. There’s no better source than him, he knows ten times as much as me.

Ford: And what’s Ryan Dawson’s attitude towards you?

Little: I saw a 20 minute response to some of my recent videos he did. He wants me to continue the “calm down” phase of the red pilling, which I think, you know, so long as nothing happens to my family, it will continue to be the case. As my core temperature goes down from red-hot, to, you know, 98.6. But ya. Dawson’s good people. I talked to him, and he has some very constructive criticisms.

[64:03]

If I were you, I would have him on and asking the very questions you were asking me about where the good sources are. Because ultimately talking to me is like talking to an undergrad mathematician, compared to a PhD, when you’d be talking to Dawson!

Ford: Right. But you’re the one who’s willing to take the slings and arrows.

Little: Somebody has to! And I’m not the only one. There are people all over the country running. I will be making an article, once the website gets underway. The contributions are done to the website, in terms of writing that up. I will make a blog post about all of the people, that people around the country need to vote for.

Ford: And, are you getting support from other people running for political office?

Little: Yeah a lot! I’m currently holding the hand of some people that want to go public with the JQ, that are running for office. And they may not be in office, so.

[65:01]

Ford: And did, you know, that you had the stuff to do this when you signed up to run for the Senate?

Little: Anyone who makes it through Marine Corps boot camp could do what I’m doing.

Ford: There’s an interesting question that I got from a friend, and he said:

“Ask him if what his pushing is basically American nationalism. It seems that he just wants to incorporate Mexicans, and blacks, and Asians, and Muslims, and put all the focus on counter-semitism. But that implies his end games the world where we just make everyone submit their tribal identity to these United States. Is that what’s going on here? Are you at core, just an American Civic nationalist?”

[66:00]

Little: I’m a civil rights advocate. I define the way I’m going to run. I’m not buying someone’s basket of ideas.

If you are interested in preventing the destruction of homogeneous communities in this country, you can’t do that until jewish supremacists are removed from power. If you’re interested in the foreign affairs of this country no longer being dictated by Israel, you can’t do that until the jewish supremacists are out of power in this country. If you’re interested in stopping anti-Asian discrimination in this country you can’t do that until the jewish supremacists are out of power. If you’re interested about stopping anti-White discrimination in this country, at all levels, of all institutions, you can’t do that while the jewish supremacist are in power.

So my response to him is to say:

“How could he do any of the things that he may want to do, without removing these jewish supremacists from power?”

And good luck using the Tenth Amendment in any state to set up any type of community you might want to have, while these jewish supremacists are in power! So, I mean, anyone that has any of these concerns, where they say:

“Well we want this, or we want that!”

You can’t have anything, until these people are out of power! So that’s my response to him..

[67:01]

Ford: What is the Tenth Amendment?

Little: All power is not given to the federal government by the Constitution. In it’s original intent it’s the privilege of the states to decide. So, for example, if the state wants to outlaw two guys who would drill each other in the butt, calling themselves “husband and husband”, that’s up to the state.

The Tenth Amendment was violated by the Supreme Court when they made their ruling against States, saying they’re for traditional marriage. The “Defense of Marriage Acting prop 8” I think it was, here in California. Overwhelming support across all races, and the “JEWdiciary”, the judiciary violated the Tenth Amendment. And this whole “the Supreme Court can’t break any laws” thing, and that the “Supreme Court points out when other branches of government are broken the law” is bullshit!

We have checks and balances! We have three equal branches of government. So yeah, that’s my response.

Ford: What percentage of the world’s problems would you attribute to the jews?

[68:00]

Little: How many degrees of separation do you want me to go by?

Ford: It’s just like a ballpark. Like, I’ll just give you an example. When I asked Eric Striker at the Daily Stormer, he said ninety-nine percent for the West. So, how about if you just take the West. Would you be comfortable with that 99 percent figure?

Little: You would have to list out what someone sees is the world’s problems, and we could go through individually. But yeah, most of the major problem facing the different peoples around the world, are the result of jewish supremacist control, or incitement of people’s against each other, or attaching of carrots and sticks to different people’s behavior towards other groups.

Ford: So there are only about 14 million jews in the world, and if there, perhaps the primary cause of the world problems, is there anything to learn from how they operate?

Little: Do you mean, things to emulate?

Ford: Sure!

[69:00]

Little: The one thing I would emulate and seeing how jewish group behavior has been, is being concerned with who controls the flow of information. So understanding and doing your best to make sure your group is represented in the way that information is collected and shared with the public. The content, or distribution networks.

So I’m not saying that any group needs to dominate any of these things. What I’m saying that all groups should be concerned is whether, or not they’re getting fairly portrayed in the media, in schools, in history. And you can see, read “Culture of Critique” again, and look at the way that groups, that jews considered to be resource competitors, are handled in history. Handled in the news.

So yeah, learn from the jews so that you should care about how your people are portrayed in the media, and history, and culture making institutions.

Ford: I don’t see any difference in the Western world between, culture making institutions, media that is operated by jews and that’s operated by non-jews. If you see differences, where do you see them?

[70:01]

Little: Do you mean that honestly?

Ford: Yeah.

Little: Compare a Russian newspaper to, .. Well Russia is not a great example, because they’re still vast over representation of the jews in the media. That the head of RT [Russia Today], for example, is jewish. Yeah, compare a South Korean, or Japanese newspaper, to an American one. I mean, start there. Look, compare a jewish newspaper to an American one. Start there.

Ford: Okay. So, for instance, the editor of the New York Times is not jewish, he’s mulatto, but the editor of The Washington Post is jewish. The editor of the Los Angeles Times, …

Little: Hold! Hold on! Who has final say over what the editorials and stuff are going to be in the New York Times? New York Times is completely controlled by the class B shareholders, which completely [consists of] family members of the Ochs Sulzberger Trust.

So ya, no. CNN, Zucker. The jewish Murdochs. The children of Rupert Murdoch at Fox. Do I need to post the memes that we’re going around the election time of how jewish the news is? Come on dude! Don’t play coy! You know, that they control the news in Hollywood!

Ford: Well memes are sometimes factually accurate, and sometimes not factually accurate. For example, the Sulzberger family, …

Little: There’s an infographic showing that top level people of those different corporations and whether, or not they’re jewish, or married to jews. Come on! Don’t play dumb!

Jewish Media Control Infographic: Red = Jewish, Green = White, Blue = Non-White. (Click image to enlarge)

Ford: I’m not playing dumb. Those memes aren’t always accurate. So sometimes they’re accurate, sometimes they’re not.

Little: Okay. These memes we’re referring to are organizational charts of different news companies that identify whether the person in that position is jewish, or married to a jew, or not. And I don’t know, … show me a single person in those infographics where they’re claimed to be a jewish, or married to a jew, which is not the case?

[72:00]

And I don’t think you’ll be able to disprove any of them. And people, please post to Luke Ford’s social media, these CNN is jewish, and NBC is jewish, and New York Times is jewish memes, because they’re not just memes, their organizational charts showing jewish domination of these institutions.

Ford: Oh I have no doubt that jews are disproportionately influential in the news media. I just don’t see any difference between news media that is operated, or run by jews, and news media in the Western world. I’m not an expert on South Korea, or Japanese news media. But I, …

Little: You don’t need to be an expert to see that it’s not front-page that Israeli snipers are shooting Palestinian Arab women in the stomach, while they’re pregnant. That’s being kept out of the major newspapers. You don’t have to be an expert on Japan, or South Korea, to see that it’s intentional that they’ve kept out the fact that Bashar al-Assad was eighty-eight point seven percent of the vote in Syria, an internationally verified election of 2014. Luke, I think you’re playing dumb with me!

[73:03]

Ford: I’m just thinking about what you’re saying that’s why the pause. Well, one example on what you just talked about is that there’s a very different attitude in Europe towards Middle East coverage. By and large, European news media is more sympathetic to the Palestinians, than it is to Israel. While by and large, in the United States, Israel is portrayed as a plucky democracy.

Little: And I can show you the videos where I think it was in a synagogue, it was ADL, or some type of SPLC group, showing that it was critical that the jews maintained, that the jewish supremacists maintained control over the hearts and mind of the majority of Americans, so that they would continue to use our military.

[74:01]

Because, as they admit themselves in this video, I’ll link it to him, I think it’s two weeks, or three weeks old. They admit that Israel will not exist without the support, unconditional support, of America. I think he might have even said, … link him this video. I don’t have time to research all this stuff for him.

Ford: But I was kind of making your point. There is a significant difference in European news coverage, as I was thinking about what you had to say between European news coverage, …

Little: When I lived in Germany and I would read things like the Frankfurter Allgemeine*, and I’d read newspapers like that, yes! They were more critical of Israel than American newspapers. But at the same time they were also damming America for being so supportive of the more radical elements of the Israeli government.

[* The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, abbreviated FAZ, is a centre-right, liberal-conservative German newspaper, founded in 1949. It is published daily in Frankfurt am Main.]

So yeah, I can go back to find newspapers that I had read when I was 17, or 18 in Germany, Frankfurter Allgemeine that showed, yes, European media, for example, the Frankfurter Allgemeine, is more critical of Israel than the United States jewish supremacist controlled media.

[75:00]

But at the same time you have to admit who’s in charge of censorship in Germany? Who’s in charge of Internet censorship, and who gets arrested for what media posts? A jewish ex-Statsi agent by the name of “Khan”, the German derivative of “Cohen”! So, yeah, they very much, … you’re allowed to criticize Israeli foreign policy a little more in the press in Europe, but you go to jail if you criticize jews as a group, or point out the things I’m pointing out, or even present statistical, or scientific evidence that the narratives we got on thousands being gassed a day in shower rooms, is complete bullshit!

So I mean, they may have a little bit more leeway in one direction, talking about jewish supremacism, in terms of the jewish supremacist State of Israel, but they certainly are not allowed to talk about jewish revisionism of our history, or control of our culture making institutions, or pointing out certain truths about historical jewish roles in certain things, prior to and after World War Two.

[76:01]

Ford: So do White people have agency? Do they bear no responsibility for this situation?

Little: If you have a group of people they get most of their information from media where they don’t know the media is controlled by a certain group, pushing a certain agenda, and the referent others presented to them, where both the parents are working, where they come home at night and think they can trust the news and the newspapers, do you blame them if they’re fed that information?

Do you blame the average American for having been told by every outlet in the media that there were WMDs, and they were indeed, that Saddam Hussein was developing nuclear weapons? That he hadn’t destroyed his WMDs in the early 90s? You want to blame Americans for having them tricked, and gas-lit by the jewish controlled media in getting us in the Iraq war in Afghanistan?

Come on dude! I’ve gotta go! It’s been over an hour. But, if, I come back on here again, you better be arguing in good faith. Have a good night Luke.

Ford: Okay take care of it. Bye-bye.

[77:00]

END

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NOTES

See also:

Patrick Little — Twitter Protest, Dec 19, 2017 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little — Speaks After Getting Kicked Out of GOP Convention, April 5, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little — Interview with Newsweek, Apr 30, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little — Interview with Yahoo News, May 1, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little — Interview with Radcapradio, May 13, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little Returns with Luke Ford, May 28, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little – Interview with Dennis Fetcho, May 31, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Little – Duels with Nick Fuentes, Jun 9, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

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[In this video, “Probing the Holocaust — The Horror Explained Part 1” some of the most iconic propagandistic film footage used to convince the post-war public that the Germans had carried out an extermination policy against the jews (and others), is analysed in the context of those camps and their conditions that prevailed as the war came to an end. The truthful explanation reveals that the public has been deeply manipulated and deceived by the explanations given in that footage.

This video, although dealing with only one part of the “Holocaust” narrative, forms part of a larger analysis by Revisionists that proves beyond doubt that the “Holocaust” is in fact an ongoing hoax of world historic proportions.

For people new to this view, one question that usually comes forward is; how? How could something so massively accepted by the media, governments, churches, academia, and so on, be false, a hoax? The answer is that the alleged victims of the “Holocaust“, the jews, are in fact the very people, as in “organised jewry“, that run our governments behind the facade known as “democracy“. In other words the alleged victims are the very perpetrators of this ongoing hoax of world historic proportions. These people were the “behind the scenes” instigators of both World Wars, and many other wars and false flags, right up to now.

Another question is; why? Why would organised jewry need to create such a hoax, known as the “Holocaust“? The answer is that it:

1) Fulfils jewish religious prophecy of a “Holocaust” or “burnt offering” of six million jews. This will then apparently lead to the return of a jewish Messiah and the establishment of jewish rule over the world.

2) Provided a sympathy pretext for the establishment of the jewish State of  Israel despite it resulting in the Palestinians being dispossessed of their lands through terror.

3)  Demonizes any form of  White nationalism. At first only the “Nazis” were blamed for the “Holocaust“, but then all Germans were, and now the blame for the “Holocaust” is placed on all Whites. Any White group, political party, organisation, etc., that attempts to look after White racial interests by, for example, rejecting mass non-White immigration, is implicitly, or on a sliding scale, explicitly accused of being “Nazi“.

Organized jewry uses their hoax “Holocaust” as a shield against any criticism of their world-wide aggression, and also as a sword to attack and guilt-trip Whites into not defending their right to exist and reject the takeover of their countries by the Third World.

The “Holocaust” needs to be exposed for what it is, a diabolical lie of historic proportions. It also needs to be exposed because that lie is being used by organised jewry as a major part of their arsenal of psychological weapons to genocide Whites out of their homelands and out of existence in the long term — KATANA.]

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Probing the Holocaust

The Horror Explained

Part 1

By

Germar Rudolf, Eric Hunt

Dec, 2017

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The Horror Explained

Abstract

“The Holocaust” is widely known as the murder of six million Jews by Nazi Germany, many if not most of them in gas chambers deceptively disguised as shower rooms.

We have all seen the terrible imagery of dead prisoners taken after concentration camps were liberated. This documentary reviews some of the most memorable of these images, which were taken in camps such as Dachau, Nordhausen and Bergen-Belsen. A closer examination of this imagery we’ve all been exposed to reveals a very different story than what we were made to believe. Surprisingly, a large number of the bodies we were shown were the direct result of Allied bombing and strafing attacks, rather than victims of a systematically planned Nazi exterimnation policy.

Probing the Holocaust: The Horror Explained (Part 1) presents surprising information which shed a new light on the horrific imagery and enables many viewers for the first time to truly understand what transpired in Germany during and at the end of the war. Watching this presentation with an open mind will surprise you and leave you asking questions of your own.

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Note: This video replaces Eric Hunt’s Questioning the Holocaust: Why We Believed, Part 1, which had a number of quality issues.

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Probing the Holocaust: The Horror Explained 

Transcript

(96:40 mins)

It’s something we were told throughout our entire lives: Six million Jews, and large numbers of non-Jews, were murdered by the Nazis:

[Clips from various film footages:]

“Eleven million people died in Nazi Germany’s death camps. Six million were Jews.”

“An estimated six million Jews were killed during World War II.”

“Hitler murdered six million Jewish people”

“six million Jews”

“six million died”

“six million people crying from the grave…”

The term Holocaust commonly refers to the systematically planned and executed extermination of six million Jews by Nazi Germany during World War Two. Mainstream historians agree that, of these six million Jews, approximately three million were killed in gas chambers.

The vast majority of them, they say, were killed or died in six extermination centers in Polish territory. Here is a break-down of these three million alleged gas chamber victims by each of the six camps.

These numbers are an average of figures found on the websites of two of the most reputable Holocaust research institutions, the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., and the Yad Vashem Museum in Jerusalem.[1]

The Holocaust is so important that the United Nations even decided to create a dedicated memorial day for it. Every January 27th, the day when the infamous Auschwitz Camp was occupied by the Soviet Red Army in 1945, the whole world is reminded to commemorate the victims of the Holocaust.[2]

In 2017, on the occasion of this International Holocaust Remembrance Day, the White House under U.S. President Donald Trump released this statement:[3]

[“It is with a heavy heart and somber mind that we remember and honor the victims, survivors, heroes of the Holocaust. It is impossible to fully fathom the depravity and horror inflicted on innocent people by Nazi terror.

Yet, we know that in the darkest hours of humanity, light shines the brightest.‎ As we remember those who died, we are deeply grateful to those who risked their lives to save the innocent.

In the name of the perished, I pledge to do everything in my power throughout my Presidency, and my life, to ensure that the forces of evil never again defeat the powers of good. Together, we will make love and tolerance prevalent throughout the world.”]

Stop the video to read it, if you like. There is nothing unusual about the statement, except maybe the fact that Jews aren’t mentioned in it. That triggered quite some vitriolic reactions, for instance from Jonathan Greenblatt, the current head of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League. He tweeted on that same day that Trump did not even mention Jews,[4] which triggered a deluge of similar attacks on the U.S. President for not having expressly mentioned the six million Jewish victims of the Holocaust.[5]

The White House countered a day later that it wasn’t just Jews who died in the Holocaust, but that five million gentiles were killed, too,[6] who also deserve equal remembrance, referring to an article which had appeared two years earlier in the Huffington Post.[7]

That in turn unleashed a series of attacks on the president and that 2015 article, claiming that this “five-million-gentiles” victim figure is bogus and vastly over-inflated. Among those, I may quote here The Times of Israel’s take on this death toll:[8]

“It’s a statement that shows up regularly in declarations about the Nazi era. […] It is, however, a number without any scholarly basis. […] The ‘5 million’ [non-Jewish Holocaust victims] has driven Holocaust historians to distraction ever since Wiesenthal started to peddle it in the 1970s. […]

Yehuda Bauer, an Israeli Holocaust scholar […], said he warned his friend Wiesenthal […] about spreading the false notion that the Holocaust claimed 11 million victims – 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews.

‘I said to him, ‘Simon, you are telling a lie,’’ Bauer recalled in an interview Tuesday. ‘He said, ‘Sometimes you need to do that to get the results for things you think are essential.’’

[…] Wiesenthal […] told them that he chose the 5 million number carefully: He wanted a number large enough to attract the attention of non-Jews who might not otherwise care about Jewish suffering, but not larger than the actual number of Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust, 6 million.

It caught on: […]

Deborah Lipstadt, a professor of Holocaust studies at Emory University in Atlanta, wrote in 2011 […] ‘this number is simply inaccurate, in fact made up […].’”

Deborah Lipstadt went over the top, however, by accusing Trump of flirting with Holocaust denial.[9]

So, here we seem to have a case where a prominent Jew, the late Simon Wiesenthal, inflated the number of Holocaust victims for political purposes.

But did Wiesenthal really invent that number? And was he the only one exaggerating numbers?

During and right after the end of the Second World War, a number of war propaganda movies were filmed with the support or even under the control of the U.S. government. Throughout these propaganda movies, there are many references to the thousands and even millions of victims of National Socialist barbarism – yet none of these films ever single out Jews as the primary victims of a “Holocaust.”

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The most infamous among those propaganda movies was titled Die Todesmühlen,[10] which was designed for, and eventually shown to, German audiences as a tool for shock-and-awe re-education. It was later also released in an English edition: Death Mills.[11] Both movies mention as the death toll of National Socialist persecution 20 million without making any specific reference to Jews:[12]

“But these eleven hundred were a small fraction of the twenty million men, women and children murdered by the Nazis. 20 million human beings, equal to the population of 22 American states. 20 million corpses.”

In fact, the narrator insists that the victims were:

“of all the nations of Europe, of all religious faiths, of all political beliefs, condemned by Hitler because they were anti-Nazi.”[13]

This is only the most prominent example. There are more which highlight that death toll claims of National Socialist persecution have a history of exceeding the six million, and that Jews have been mentioned with regularity as only one among many victim groups.

This issue is also not just a matter of journalists and propagandists making up wild figures. In 2015, in a book about the forensic examination of mass-murder locations of the Holocaust, a British archaeologist who has been working with the leading scientists in the field for several years wrote, quote:[14]

“The exact number of people killed during the Holocaust remains unknown. Some scholars have suggested a figure of around 11 million. Of these, it is estimated that approximately six million Jews were killed but the number of Roma, Sinti, disabled people, political prisoners and others killed cannot be estimated with complete certain[t]y.”

She provides no source for that claim, though. So maybe she merely repeated what she had heard through Wiesenthal’s grapevine? But is it really Wiesenthal’s? Interestingly, the very same Washington Holocaust Museum that, according to just-quoted article in The Times of Israel, issued a statement on Trump’s text emphasizing the centrality of the annihilation of the Jews to the understanding of the Holocaust, had announced in 2013 in a press release that their research has revealed that:

“The Nazi Holocaust may have claimed up to 20 million lives,”

while leaving the 6-million Jewish death toll basically unchanged.[15] This would mean that as many as 14 million non-Jews died in the Holocaust, not just five.

I may also point out that 20 million is not the ceiling of death-toll estimates. For instance, an article of Sept. 21, 1992, from Germany’s most prestigious daily newspaper, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (p. 13), illustrates in a very useful manner the kind of topic we are dealing with and the problems that are related to it. The title of the article translates to “Traces of the Crime; Shoes, Shoes, even Children’s Shoes.” It is a report written by a student about his visit to the Stutthof concentration camp not far from Danzig, in postwar Poland, that has been turned into a museum. The author, in his fourth sentence, states that he cannot imagine what an extermination camp might look like and talks of, quote, “installations in which ‘6 million Jews and a total of 26 million detainees […] were killed,’” unquote. So here we have a combination of the general 20 million victims plus six million Jews.

At the end of his account the author writes that he found himself facing, quote;

“the remains of the most brutal genocide, the highly modern killing machines of the time, the cruelest crime of humanity,” unquote

By putting things that way, one of the most highly regarded newspapers in the world has given its definition of the Holocaust. The annihilation of a total of 26 million people by the National Socialists in ultra-modern killing machines is the cruelest crime in the history of humanity.

So, how many victims were there now? Six million Jews plus a few others, or eleven in total, or twenty, or even twenty-six million?

At most one of these figures can be correct, but with all this speculation going on, it may turn out that they are all wrong. But if that is so, what is the truth? Can you tell?

One thing is for sure: we obviously cannot believe everything we hear about the Holocaust, because the things we hear often contradict one another.

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Let’s start at the beginning, with the documentary “Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps” that the Americans introduced during the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg in 1945 as proof of Nazi atrocities. Psychologically speaking, it was one of the most powerful pieces of evidence submitted, because a picture tells more than a thousand words. Here are some scenes about the Dachau Camp. Dachau was one of the first major camps the Americans captured toward the end of the war:[16]

“Hanging in orderly rows were the clothes of prisoners who had been suffocated in a lethal gas chamber. They had been persuaded to remove their clothing under the pretext of taking a shower for which towels and soap were provided. This is the Brausebad, the shower bath. Inside the shower bath, the gas vents.”

Actually, what you are seeing here are not gas vents but recessed light fixtures.

“On the ceiling, the dummy showerheads. In the engineer’s room, the intake and outlet pipes. Push buttons to control inflow and outtake of gas. A hand valve to regulate pressure. Cyanide powder was used to generate the lethal smoke.”

Interestingly, on August 19, 1961, a letter to the editors by German mainstream historian Martin Broszat was published in Germany’s biggest weekly newspaper Die Zeit stating, among other things:

“Jews or other inmates were gassed neither in Dachau nor in Bergen-Belsen nor in Buchenwald. The gas chamber at Dachau was never fully completed and taken into ‘operation.’”

On January 24, 1993, the famous Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal wrote in a letter to the editors of the U.S. military magazine Stars and Stripes in the same vein:

“A gas chamber was in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed.”

Thus, between the 1960s and late 1990s, the Dachau Museum had a sign displayed inside the Dachau gas chamber stating:

“Gas Chamber, disguised as a shower room never used as a gas chamber.”

Today, however, this sign is no longer there. Instead, a less-visible text on a sign outside that room states:

“Gas chamber

This was the center of potential mass murder. The room was disguised as ‘showers’ and equipped with fake shower spouts to mislead the victims and prevent them from refusing to enter the room.”

Currently, the US Holocaust Museum itself admits, quote:[17]

“There is no credible evidence that the gas chamber in Barrack X was used to murder human beings.”

Barrack X was the official name for the crematorium building where that sinister room was located.

One of the leading books by mainstream historians on the gas chamber question, the 1993 collective tome Nazi Mass Murder, states on page 202:[18]

“It has not yet been conclusively proved that killings by poison gas took place at the Dachau concentration camp.”

And on page 203, we read:

“But during the trial there was only one witness, a Czech physician assigned to care for the prisoners, Dr. Frantisek Blaha, who declared that experimental gassings had taken place in the Dachau gas chamber.”

Blaha signed an affidavit on January 9, 1946, in which he described his experience with the Dachau gas chamber. It is in German, but an English translation was read into the record during the Nuremberg Tribunal as follows:[19]

“Many executions by gas or shooting or injections took place right in the camp. The gas chamber was completed in 1944, and I was called by Dr. Rascher to examine the first victims. Of the eight or nine persons in the chamber there were three still alive, and the remainder appeared to be dead. Their eyes were red, and their faces were swollen. Many prisoners were later killed in this way.”

And that’s it. If Blaha was the only witness on trial testifying about the gas chamber, and if he had no experience whatsoever about the gassing procedure, then how did the American documentary makers know that the victims;

“had been persuaded to remove their clothing under the pretext of taking a shower for which towels and soap were provided” ?

Only a few days after the liberation of the Dachau Camp, a number of U.S. Congressmen visited the camp. Here they are shown inside the gas chamber. And this is footage taken in 2016. As you can see, the ceiling of that room is rather low. In fact, the room is roughly 2.15 meters or seven feet high. Why do I mention this? Because an official U.S. commission investigated what had transpired at Dachau, and in a report to the U.S. Congress dated May 15, 1945, compiled by David Chavez, we read, among other things, that in this room “the ceiling was some 10 feet in height”[20]

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How can anyone confuse seven feet with ten feet? But that’s not all, because that report continues as follows:

“The supply of gas into the chamber was controlled by means of two valves on one of the outer walls, and beneath the valves was a small glass-covered peephole through which the operator could watch the victims die. The gas was let into the chamber through pipes terminating in perforated brass fixtures set into the ceiling.”

However, the ceiling did NOT have brass fixtures, but merely zinc-plated iron showerheads. Furthermore, as can be seen in this photo of a spot where a showerhead had been removed by the Americans as a piece of evidence, these were merely fake showerheads – or rather watering can rosettes such as this – that were not connected to anything. Already the documentary we watched earlier said that there was:

“A hand valve to regulate pressure.”

But there’s a problem. Zyklon B, which was allegedly used for the murder, was not a gas under pressure that could be fed into pipes. It consisted of gypsum pellets soaked with liquid hydrogen cyanide, the active ingredient in Zyklon B. When such a can was opened, its poison evaporated slowly.

In addition, from many cases of accidental poisoning with hydrogen cyanide, and from executions with that poison as they were carried out in several U.S. states during the 20th century, we know that the victims Blaha claimed to have examined cannot have succumbed to Zyklon B. Such victims do not have red eyes. They do not have swollen faces. Actually, if they show any symptoms, it is a pinkish-reddish discoloration of their skin as shown here.

It is clear that the Americans, when making their documentaries and congressional reports, were jumping to a lot of conclusions, contradicting each other and the material facts in the process. But what’s the truth here?

The tubing shown in the American documentary is really impressive. Such heavy tubing with cast-iron hand valves are commonly used for piping large amounts of chemical liquids or pressurized gas. The design of this tubing was investigated by the French officer Capitaine Fribourg a week after the camp’s liberation. Here is a sketch drawn by him showing how the piping worked. According to this, fresh air was sucked in through this intake vent, which protrudes through the roof. This intake pipe is subsequently led through a heat exchanger located over the gas chamber in the building’s attic. Here, the air is heated by the building’s hot-water heating system. After that, the now-insulated pipe is split into two and led out of the attic area into the room behind the gas chamber, where both pipes are led in a semi-circle, each of which equipped with the hand valves shown. Leading back into the attic area over the gas chamber, Fribourg shows the pipes being merged back into the outgoing pipe, but that would make no sense at all, because then the air would go nowhere. Therefore, that’s a mistake. In fact, a report compiled by German architect Axel Will in the early 2000s, a copy of which we received from the Dachau Museum, described in detail that the layout actually looks like this. Will wrote:

“Air is drawn in via a pipeline of 400 mm diameter extending over the roof, and is then led through a steam-operated heat exchanger. The pipeline is insulated behind the heat exchanger. It is split into two lines by means of a y-branch pipe, and leads with two pipes of 200 mm diameter into the room adjoining the gas chamber. There the airflow can be adjusted with a valve each. Both these and the other two valves of the ventilation system are made of massive cast iron and carry a $ sign in a circle. Such valves are common in gas pipelines but not in ventilation systems.

Behind the valves both pipelines are again led back into the attic area above the gas chamber and merged back together into one pipe. This pipe enters a sheet-metal shaft, which again goes through the adjoining room and leads the heated air to the air intake at the floor of the gas chamber.

This sheet-metal shaft is not insulated. This raises questions. Design logic suggests that this shaft would be the suitable location to add substances [such as Zyklon B] to the heated air prior to entering the gas chamber. The examination of the sheet-metal shaft has so far not revealed any opening for such a manipulation. Yet the missing insulation points to such a possibility.”

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So much from architect Will.

The air exhaust system starts with two openings in the ceiling. From there, the two non-insulated exhaust pipes merge into one, and are led toward the wall to the room behind the gas chamber, where the pipe splits up into two again. Then it is led outside in a semi-circle equipped with two hand valves, and led back into the attic area, where it is merged again into one pipe, as can be seen in this photo taken in the attic of that building. Then that merged pipe is fed into the electric blower that drives the whole operation, here visible in another attic photo, and from there out the exhaust chimney, which exits the roof here.

Now, if that gas chamber was meant to be operated with Zyklon B, it would have been smart, as architect Will correctly suggested, to equip the sheet-metal shaft running down the wall of the adjacent room with some trap door – hinted at here with blue lines – allowing for Zyklon B to be inserted into some kind of basket inside the shaft, hinted at here with the red meshwork. That way, the constant stream of warm air would have evaporated the poison gas quickly and would have spread it out inside the room rapidly. But, as architect Will correctly observed in his report, there is no trace of any provision to that effect.

So, the poison was neither administered using the false showerheads, as the congressional report claimed, nor using the ventilation system, as the U.S. documentary that was shown during the Nuremberg Tribunal suggested. But how else could it have been done? Here is the story as we are told today:

“they would pour Zyklon B down these slots right here, and onto the floor.”[21]

“Rocks with Zyklon B could be inserted from the outside”[22]

Here are some photos of these slots from the inside and from the outside. So, the entire sophisticated ventilation system did not serve any other purpose than moving air around. Why then was it so complicated? It makes no sense at all! It would have been much easier to simply feed the heated air directly into the shaft going into the chamber, as shown here, and to feed the exhaust pipes directly into the blower, using the blower’s speed to adjust for any needed change in air volume. For now, this entire ventilation system seems to be a nonsensical mystery.

But that’s not the only one. Fact is, that neither the congressional report nor the postwar documentary mentions these Zyklon B slots. In fact, David Chavez, the main author of the congressional report, had compiled an earlier version of this report that did not get submitted. It stated:[23]

“Gas Chamber. Gas tight doors. Wooden shed believed to contain pump or compressor.”

This wooden shed located just outside the alleged gas chamber can be seen in many photos and film footages shot right after the liberation. It was located where today the two Zyklon B slots are located. But according to Chavez, it did not contain any slots, but rather some not clearly identified equipment.

The French officer Capitaine Fribourg describing the facility on May 25, 1945 as he claims to have seen it on May 5, 1945, hence, a week after the camp’s capture by the Americans, also mentioned the wooden shed as follows:

“Right next to the shower room, adjacent to the building, is a palisade some 2 meters high fencing off a space of 2 m wide. It was not possible to get inside due to the presence of a pile of decomposing corpses stacked up against the palisade.”

and

“behind the palisade is said to have existed or exists a compressor group (?)”

He also described two slots in the wall obscured by this shed from the outside as follows:

“At about 75 cm from the ground, 2 hoppers connect the shower room with the outside (palisade side). Each hopper ends on the inside with a grate, and on the outside with a movable shutter system.”

That’s also what we see there today. Fribourg even included those hoppers in one of his sketches.

If we look at the outside of this wall in that location today, we can see these strange features. It may have been the electrical outlet for the device operated in that shed.

Looking closer at the Zyklon-B slots, we notice that the mortar around them is not original. The original mortar used to build Barrack X contains coarse gravel rather than sand, while any mortar used around the Zyklon-B slots, and on later repairs and patch-ups, as we can see them here, are made of mortar containing fine sand. Here we can even see how some of the new mortar flowed over the old mortar.

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On the inside, it is apparent that the tiles around those slots have been damaged. In fact, a simple test with the finger nail shows that these rough surfaces aren’t even tiles. They are plaster made to look similar to the tiles around them.

In other words, those slots are not part of the original building. They were added later on by hacking holes through the existing wall.

Who did that change, and when was it done? Chavez didn’t mention them, and neither did the U.S. documentary on Dachau of May 3rd. Fribourg saw them two days later, but he did not claim that they were used to throw in Zyklon B. That wouldn’t have been a good idea anyway, because a large amount of the gypsum pellets would have gotten stuck on the grill on the inside. But what were those slots used for? Or is it a post-war forgery?

And if that is so, what else is?

Here is one hint. This footage was recorded on October 25, 2017 from the website of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. When searching their video archive for the term “gas chamber” the first result is this video. It’s titled “Exhumation; inspection of gas chambers; Lt. Hodges.”

This is footage taken after the liberation of Paris of an alleged “Gestapo Torture Chamber” near the Eiffel Tower. In the description, we read:

“World War II interiors of gas chamber used by the Germans in the execution of prisoners. Demonstrating method of securing prisoners in gas chambers. Various Close-ups, pipes leading into room.”

And;

“hand prints and scratches dug into cement wall of gas chamber by the victims.”

Here are those ominous pipes. They are rather fancy, but not very functional. Most of all, they would have been within reach of the victims, and wouldn’t have survived very long, because they would have been demolished very quickly. Also notice all those windows illuminating this room. How long would those window panes have lasted if the victims inside trashed the place and tried to break out?

For that footage, they even pumped some innocuous, but dramatic-looking smoke through the pipes.

Here are the handprints in the cement, allegedly created by gassing victims during their death throes. Needless to say, handprints can only be made in fresh mortar, and only insane people would use a room as an execution chamber whose walls had just been plastered.

These gas pipes and handprints are not evidence of Nazi atrocities, they are evidence of a deliberate Allied psychological warfare campaign to demonize the defeated Germans. Because this hoax is so obvious, no mainstream historian has ever taken that claim seriously. That does not prevent the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum from presenting it to an unsuspecting audience, though. Unfortunately, most people just accept whatever the government, media, or religion tell them to believe.

So, what was necessary for the Americans, who had liberated Paris several months earlier, to create that footage? First of all, they must have had a plan. Then, they must have had at their disposal the necessary hardware to create the film set: pipes, smoke-generating devices, and some workers able to install that hardware and to create a cement wall with handprints.

In contrast to that utterly unknown Gestapo torture chamber in Paris, Dachau was one of the best-known German concentration camps. It was the first one to be opened right after the Nazis came to power. When the Americans finally moved in in April 1945, this camp had dominated the fantasy of Nazi opponents for more than a decade. So, did the American psychological warfare executives have a plan? You bet they did! And did they come with hardware and workers to put that plan into action? If they did it in Paris in January 1945, they surely were even more likely to pull it off at Dachau, which was a much more promising propaganda stage.

So, let me ask again: why are these fanciful pipes in Dachau so impressive and even intimidating, but at the same time so completely useless and pointless?

Before we jump to conclusions, let’s look at some wartime documents. First, there are the two photos shown earlier taken some time in 1944. On both, we can see the ventilation chimney that’s part of the gas chamber’s aeration system. So at least that exhaust chimney was built by the Germans prior to the end of the war. Next, among the few original documents available on that building, there are two blueprints of special interest. This one shows a cross section through the gas chamber. It shows that the ceiling is indeed only some 7 ft high, not 10 ft, as the rest of the building.[24] Next, a section enlargement of this document shows the floor plan of the gas chamber.[25]

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As we can see, both doors are 90 cm wide and consist either of two doors each, one opening inward, the other outward, or of a swinging door. Either way, such an arrangement would not have been suitable for a gas chamber, as swinging doors could neither be made gas tight nor panic-proof, and in case this layout consisted of two doors, the inner one opening inward could not have been opened if dead bodies were piled up against it inside the chamber. Such an arrangement is actually common for morgues. For instance, the blueprints of the morgue in the old crematorium at Auschwitz show the same type of door design.

Today, this room is equipped with two heavy steel doors of the type that were quite common for air-raid shelters. The doors are one meter wide and set in steel frames. The same doors are shown in the U.S. footage recorded on May 3, 1945, hence just five days after the camp was captured by the Americans. They were therefore most likely built in there long before the Americans arrived. Also, one of the walls actually consists of two layers with a hollow space in between, which is typically used as insulation, something also seen at the above-mentioned Auschwitz morgue.

Hence, it looks like this room was initially meant to serve as a morgue. In fact, the striking feature of this building is that, if we discard the idea that this alleged gas chamber served as a morgue, this building has no other room of a suitable size equipped with a ventilation system.

But if that is so, what about the weird, oversized piping? And what about those heavy doors? And what about the shafts on the outside, evidently added after the building was completed?

And what about the peephole in the rear wall which Capitaine Fribourg described in his report? He even drew a sketch of it. It slanted rather steeply downward, hence it wouldn’t have allowed anyone to see anything except for maybe the feet of a few people standing or lying close to that hole.

The hole inside that gas chamber that is said to have been the other end of that peephole can be seen to this day, although it is way higher than what Fribourg reported, who in his sketch placed the peephole below the second little port visible on that wall, close to the floor. Today, neither the peephole’s exit nor the switches are visible in the adjoining room. The switch panel and switch box are shown in the footage recorded on May 3, 1945 for the U.S. documentary. But that documentary neither shows nor mentions that peephole. There is, however, a photograph of that area from May 1945 showing not only the switch panel and switch box plus some of the insulated pipes and hand valves, but also a crude opening in the wall just beneath the switch panel. If we compare that image with a still of the footage just shown, we see:

a) that the lid of the switch box to the left has disappeared;

b) and more importantly, the upper, rugged edge of the hole in the photo should also be visible in the still, but it isn’t. Therefore, somebody must have hacked that hole in there after the documentary was shot.

Here is how that hole looks on the inside, seen from the gas chamber. It does indeed angle upward. In the background you see bricks and mortar used by the museum to close up that gaping hole in the adjoining room. Inside this tube runs an electric cable put in there when the room was prepared as a museum exhibit.

What we see here is the fact that, since the camp’s liberation on April 29, 1945, quite a few people seem to have tampered with the evidence of this suspected crime scene. It’s difficult to assess what this hole was really used for. A peephole, however, would have been installed in the doors, as was and is common for air-raid shelter doors, rather than hacked through a thick brick wall, and it most certainly would not have slanted downward.

So, is the Dachau gas chamber a post-war fraud? Considering that the camp was liberated on April 29 and that the gas chamber was inspected by four members of the U.S. Congress only 3 days later, on May 2nd, this seems to be not enough time for a major fraud.

In fact, there is evidence pointing in a different direction. Most importantly, there is a letter in the German Federal Archives by Dr. Sigmund Rascher to Heinrich Himmler dated August 9, 1942, which reads:[26]

“As you know, the same facility as at Linz is being built at the Dachau concentration camp. Since the ‘transports of invalids’ end up in certain chambers anyway, I ask whether the effect of our various combat gases can be tested on people who are destined for that anyway? So far, all we have are experiments with animals, or reports on accidents during the production of these gases. Because of this paragraph, I am sending my letter marked ‘Secret.’”

Dr. Rascher was the infamous doctor who conducted medical experiments on inmates at Dachau, which were among the crimes prosecuted by the American occupational powers after the war in the famous “Medical Case” of the Nuremberg Trials of War Criminals. While there was plenty of evidence for a variety of experiments on human guinea pigs such as exposure to low air pressure and extended submersion in cold water, tests of combat gases at Dachau were not among the charges. There was simply too little evidence to make that case.

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We may speculate that Dr. Rascher had indeed tried to re-rig the morgue of Barrack X for the potential testing of combat gases, with those shafts perhaps simply serving as air-intake shafts for a better ventilation, since the room had no windows. But since Dr. Rascher was arrested by the German police in April 1944 and eventually executed for a number of crimes, child abduction and murder among them, that project, if it ever existed, ended up being abandoned at that point at the latest. When the Americans arrived a year later, the room was nothing more than a morgue, filled with the victims of diseases and malnutrition, which could not be cremated due to the lack of fuel.

For the time being, any answer to the question what these strange objects were meant for remains speculation to a large degree, because almost the entire original paperwork regarding the planning and construction of that building – cost estimates, progress reports, blueprints, invoices etc. – have disappeared from the Dachau camp archives. Only a few, not very informative documents are left, such as the ones we just saw plus a few others. So, either the Nazis destroyed them because they had something to hide, or the Americans confiscated and/or destroyed them, because they wanted to prevent anyone from figuring out what that room really looked like and was used for.

At Dachau, imagery of a gas chamber disguised as a shower room was driven into our minds.

Dachau is where the world came to believe the rumors and saw what we believed to be evidence of well-engineered German machinery, capable of gassing with precision and efficiency.

So, if that gas chamber wasn’t what we are told, or at least wasn’t used at all for mass executions, why were there massive amounts of clothes hanging in its vicinity when the Americans arrived?

“Hanging in orderly rows were the clothes of prisoners, who had been suffocated in a lethal gas chamber. They have been persuaded to remove their clothing under the pretext of taking a shower for which towels and soap were provided.”

Actually, these are clothes airing outside the Dachau disinfestation chambers. The narrator merely claims that this is the clothing of homicidal gas chamber victims. Then they deceptively cut to the shower room door, making the viewer believe they are the same door; the one with the obvious written gas warnings on it and the supposed gas chamber, disguised as a shower room, designed to trick those entering.

The hoaxers showed film of these disinfestation gas chambers for fumigating clothing, located at the end of the building. They claimed these doors, clearly marked with warning signs and skull and crossbones, were used to gas prisoners.

This is where the disinfestation chambers are and the doors clearly marked with warnings. But the “shower room,” the alleged gas chamber, is located a few rooms away. The deception was to trick the average viewer into thinking, the clearly marked delousing chamber door with skull and crossbones located at the end of the building was the same as the shower room door. This dirty deception continues to this day.

For example, take this 2012 documentary on Dachau by filmmaker Levi Mierau. After showing the gas chamber and describing how it allegedly worked, he, too, deceptively cuts to the disinfestation chamber while continuing his narration about homicidal gassing. Watch it:[27]

“A door labeled shower bath went into a large room, which is meant to deceive, since the room was not actually a shower room but a gas chamber. The room consisted of outlets in the walls, floor and roof.”

Stoooop! Outlets in the floor and roof? These showerheads weren’t an outlet for anything, and those six drains in the floor are actually real drains, which indicates that the room was originally designed to handle a lot of water, not gas.

Fast forward a few seconds, we have this footage:[28]

“Rocks with poison gas pellets named Zyklon B could be inserted from the outside. Since the gas chambers were only built during the camp’s last months, only seven were killed in the gas chambers used as test subjects.”

So, while showing the disinfestation chambers, Levi deceptively talks about gas chambers, in the plural, used to kill seven people.

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The same kind of deception is committed by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum on its website (capitalization added):

“View of THE door of THE gas chamber in Dachau.”[29]

“An American soldier stands outside of THE gas chamber in Dachau” [30]

“View of THE door to THE gas chamber at Dachau next to a large pile of uniforms.”[31]

“THE door to THE gas chamber in Dachau. It is marked ‘showerbath.’”[32]

“View of THE door to THE gas chamber in the Dachau concentrations camp. A sign above it identifies it as a shower.”[33]

The US Holocaust Museum uses the singular “the” to imply, both of these doors were the same door of the same homicidal gas chamber, disguised as a shower room.

They show the outside of the clothing fumigation chamber doors, located at the end of the building, then show the inside of the shower room door, located all the way over here. There are four disinfestation chambers, not one.

But they chose photographs which show one door and used the singular “the” and mix it with images of the shower room. You can see the disinfestation chambers had warnings not to enter and marks designating when clothing fumigations started and when it was safe to open the doors again.

Here they refer to this as “a” gas chamber,[34] of course ignoring that it was one of the four used to delouse clothing.

The photograph’s caption reveals the early propaganda lies, still perpetrated today.

“Gas Room – People were hung up in here.”

These hooks were not used to hang people in gas chambers. They were just hooks for clothing, of course.

“View of the hooks outside the door to the gas chambers in Buchenwald.”[35]

First, this isn’t even Buchenwald. This is a photo of a Dachau delousing chamber.

The original caption reads:

“Buchenwald was the home of Ilse Koch, wife of the commandant. She was known as the ‘bitch of Buchenwald,’ an insult to every dog who ever lived. She had her inmates tattooed in various designs, then had them killed, then skinned and their hides tanned to make book bindings, lamp shades, and other articles. I saw these things! One story has it that she enjoyed sexual intercourse with her victims – this may be apocryphal. These ‘meat hooks’ were used on the bodies of humans!”

Just about every claim in this miscaptioned photo is false. This example illuminates the typical hysterical propaganda common at the time and still repeated today by a government-funded institution. In reality, these alleged “meat hooks” are just hangers for clothes to air out after passing through the fumigation chambers.

This complex machinery sure looked like it would be something we’d expect in German-designed death chambers. But because this equipment could NOT be used to introduce Zyklon-B fumes into the chamber, today we are told the Germans instead just dumped the pesticide pellets onto the room’s floor through these vents in the outside wall. This is quite odd, because the disinfestation chambers right down the hall actually did have advanced specially designed mechanisms to properly heat and circulate cyanide gas from the Zyklon B pesticide pellets.

This was called the DEGESCH circulatory device made by the manufacturer of Zyklon B.[36] A member of a clothing fumigation crew would put a can of Zyklon B into the holder. A built-in can opener operated from the outside with a crank would open the can. The pellets would drop down a chute into a basket where hot air would be blown through to speed the release of cyanide gas from the pellets. The pesticide would be spread throughout the clothing fumigation chamber, and when finished, the gas would be removed from the chamber and fresh air blown in.

One should be very skeptical upon learning that today the official story is that the Germans, rather than using something like this specially designed device used in the clothing delousing chambers right down the hall, simply poured Zyklon B pellets through holes in the wall. Such a procedure would have been very detrimental, because once those pellets were inside the room, they could not have been removed, unless the room had been cleared of all the corpses. Since Zyklon B releases its poison for an hour or more, depending on temperature and humidity,[37] this means that any effort to swiftly ventilate the room after an execution would have been in vain.

Hence, these shafts, if they were added during the war within the framework of Dr. Rascher’s testing frenzy, may simply have been designed to assist the ventilation of that room.

Anyway, this is not exactly the advanced German engineering we are constantly propagandized with, is it?

In the face of overwhelming evidence that this room was never used to gas anyone, mainstream historians now claim that the inmates employed to build this gas chamber managed to sabotage its completion by dawdling on the job for some three years, or so we read in the original French edition of Paul Berben’s “official history” of the camp, quote:[38]

“The Dachau gas chamber, however, never functioned because to a certain extent, it seems, of sabotage carried out by the team of prisoners given the job to build it.”

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So, the narration of the Nuremburg trial evidence film “Nazi Concentration Camps” was completely wrong. This clothing did not belong to inmates suffocated in the gas chamber. This was just clothing which passed through the real gas chambers for delousing clothes and was airing out.

This deceptive narration of the Dachau segment is an important part of the falsehoods in the Nuremberg trials film evidence center piece.

This bizarre practice of calling shower rooms gas chambers continues to this day. We can see on the website of Israel’s Holocaust Museum “Yad Vashem” a photograph of the actual inmate shower room at the Dachau Camp captioned:

“A gas chamber after the liberation.”[39]

This is just another real shower.

“Flossenbürg, Germany, Gas chambers, which were called showers.”[40]

This claim is repeated on the “HistoryWiz” web site “The Final Solution”. The photograph is captioned:[41]

“The final destination for those who could not work, the gas chamber – here, the gas chamber at Flossenburg.”

The hoaxers pulled the same old trick angle in the camera to block out the many windows of this real working shower room. The top official authorities today concede this room was a real shower, never used to gas anyone. Moreover, no mainstream historian has ever claimed that there was a homicidal gas chamber at the Flossenbürg Camp.

This doesn’t stop Israel’s Holocaust Museum and others from spreading gas shower nonsense. The “HistoryWiz” website presents an important quote:

“To be ignorant of history is to remain always a child. – Cicero”

That certainly holds true for those who childishly and ignorantly believe showers were gas chambers.

A major reason we believed in the stories of the showers of death is the terrible images of corpses taken at the end of the war. But those horrific images of emaciated and dead prisoners are not proof of an extermination program.

“This special presentation of the Oprah Winfrey Show is brought to you with limited commercial interruption. It is supported in part by the new AT&T, committed to education.

I am here in Poland at the Auschwitz death camp, where it is estimated that 1.1 to 1.5 million people perished here in the Holocaust.”

At an early age, you were probably already exposed to a program like this.[42] Documentaries such as this one are specifically aimed at young people. You can even see this copy was taken from a website called “School Tube”. Videos like this shock their audience by showing atrocious imagery which, if it were fiction, would be rated unsuitable for children.

“That evil has a name: The Holocaust. A systematic mass murder meticulously planned and executed by Nazi Germany that brutally wiped millions of people off the face of the earth. More than six million of those human beings were Jewish.”

But since this imagery is real, it is not rated unsuitable for children, although it is even more traumatizing exactly because it is real. However, hardly anyone, let alone a child, has the ability or experience to analyze the context of this imagery. This horrific film footage of emaciated corpses is presented with no context other than the claim that they are proof of a systematic extermination policy.

“The Holocaust. A systematic mass murder meticulously planned and executed…”

These images, however, were taken at the very end of the war. Mainstream historians claim, however, that any extermination activity had ceased in those camps in October of 1944 at the latest, based on an affidavit by German SS officer Kurt Becher, in which he quoted an order allegedly issued by Himmler in September of 1944 as follows:[43]

“I prohibit any annihilation of Jews with immediate effect, and on the contrary order the nursing of weak and sick persons. I hold you (with this, Kaltenbrunner and Pohl were meant) personally responsible for this, even if this order is not strictly followed by subordinate departments.”

Both Kaltenbrunner and Pohl were top officials of the concentration camp system. No trace of that Himmler order has ever been found, but that’s beside the point I want to make here. When we look at what was really going on in those camps, we are in for a surprise. Here is a chart showing the number of inmate deaths at Dachau as recorded first by the German authorities and then by the Americans. It clearly shows that mortality exploded at a time when Hitler’s extermination policy is said to have been abandoned. The same happened at the Bergen-Belsen Camp, where mortality exploded only in early 1945, as can be seen from this chart exhibited today at the Bergen-Belsen museum.

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The reason for that was severe overcrowding combined with the disastrous collapse of food and water supplies as well as medical care and hygienic measures, which taken together caused malnutrition, starvation, and fatal diseases such as typhus and dysentery to spread out of control.

In those months, the Allies bombed Germany’s entire infrastructure to smithereens, including the supply lines into the camps. Shipments of medicine, sanitation supplies and food into the camps, power plants and water treatment plants were systematically bombed, and in some cases, they even bombed the actual camps. Not only Jewish concentration camp prisoners struggled and perished during the final months of World War II. For months upon months, the German civilian population was the target of an unprecedented fire-bombing campaign by the western Allies. From Hamburg to Dresden, tens of thousands of innocent German civilians were deliberately targeted and murdered. Women and children were burned alive, and terrified families suffocated from poison gas in bomb shelters. They don’t ever show you these pictures, do they? You should ask why, though.

Anyway, many Germans who survived became refugees running for their lives, and also struggled to feed themselves.

In the east, German civilian populations were also fleeing the invading Soviet army which was torturing and murdering civilians en masse. The Red Army raped untold numbers of German women from young children to the elderly.

Using these horrific images, the catastrophic last days of a collapsing Germany surrounded on all sides and bombed to smithereens, as proof of deliberate extermination camps is the dirty trick that is the main reason people believe in the Holocaust.

It’s why many react strongly against those critically investigating mainstream Holocaust claims. After all, we all saw the bodies, right? These images were taken in camps liberated by the western Allies, primarily Dachau, liberated by the Americans, and Bergen-Belsen, liberated by the British – camps which are today admitted, even by mainstream historians, not to have served as extermination or death camps.

Today, all of the so-called death camps or extermination camps are claimed to have been in Polish territories conquered by the Soviet Union.

Early witnesses originally claimed these western-liberated camps also had homicidal gas chambers, disguised as shower rooms. However, British and American doctors performed thousands of autopsies on some of the corpses the Allies discovered in those camps.

Russell Barton, an English medical student who had spent a month in Belsen after the camp’s liberation and had investigated the reasons for the camp’s disastrous conditions toward the end of the war, stated, quote:[44]

“German medical officers told me that it had been increasingly difficult to transport food to the camp for some months. Anything that moved on the autobahns was likely to be bombed. […]

I was surprised to find records, going back for two or three years, of large quantities of food cooked daily for distribution. I became convinced, contrary to popular opinion, that there had never been a policy of deliberate starvation. This was confirmed by the large numbers of well-fed inmates. […] The major reasons for the state of Belsen were disease, gross overcrowding by central authority, lack of law and order within the huts, and inadequate supplies of food, water and drugs.”

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Here is an interview Dr. Barton gave to the late Ernst Zündel some ten years after this article had been published:[45]

“You were on the scene in Belsen as a young man.”

“Yes. I went with a group of medical students. We arrived in Belsen on May the second 1945, and I first went to the camp on May the third. Himmler ordered the camp to be ceded on April 11th in order to stop typhus, which was an epidemic spreading throughout Europe. The British came in; a tank division came in on April the fifteenth at three o’clock, and they did their best to segregate the typhus[-infected] and the dying from the other.”

“How many people were in the camp at the time when the British took over the camp?”

“I think there were about fifty-seven or sixty thousand. The British bombed everything, and the Americans, that moved on the roads. So getting food there was extremely difficult. The water supplies became contaminated with sewage, and the administration in the camp more or less broke down. The distribution of food in the individual huts was left to the inmates, and the inmates, we found out – we were fooled at first, but this was after May, after I got there. The inmates… one particular group was in control; they would take what they wanted and then leave whatever food there was left to the rest of the hut. So that meant, perhaps ten powerful people would gobble everything, and three hundred and fifty would have whatever was left. There were, I’d say, all nationalities, mainly Polish and Russian. Most of them were Jewish.”

“Were there men and women?”

“Yes, there were men and women, and children.”

“And were they segregated?”

“Segregated.”

“Segregated camps. And that was still segregated when you got there?”

“Yes.”

“Even, let’s say, if the German camp administration had made maximum effort, and had been given everything at hand, could they have prevented this?”

“There was no cure for typhus at that time. The British put DDT, which is an insecticide, over everything and everybody, and in that way, I think, the typhus was contained. But it was a great danger. People don’t realize it was typhus. It was… I supposed 50, 60 percent of the people died of typhus.”

“Why are these bodies naked? I mean, some of them are so emaciated. Why don’t they have their clothing on?”

“Well, they did. When they were pushed outside the huts, they had clothing on. But clothing was so scarce – everything was scarce – that the inmates would immediately rush out and take all the clothing off, because it was a pity to waste it. That’s why they were naked.”

“Did you see, when you got there two weeks after the British army took over, any evidence of gas chambers, the way propaganda has said that the Germans had in these camps? Or was there any claim made to that effect?”

“No. I don’t think it was ever thought there was a gas chamber in Belsen-Bergen. People were dying at 500 a day, by the way, a rate of 500 a day.”

“Even under British administration…”

“Under British administration, yes. And what was happening mostly, the English soldiers were giving people their food, people half starved, had very thin stomachs. The stomachs would burst, and they’d die. The inmates said that the conditions there, this is what inmates said, that conditions weren’t too bad until the end of ’44. And then this mass immigration… But by the time they put in another 50,000, fully 50,000, of course…”

“Were you there during the time when the bulldozers were actually putting these bodies in the graves, in these long trenches that we’ve seen?”

“The bulldozers… the bodies were being thrown in. They would put… a truck went around every day and picked up the bodies outside the hut, and then they would take them to where the bulldozer had dug the grave, and they would throw them into the grave.”

“You are a man born in England. You published this article, I believe, for an English publication. And the London Times picked up on what you have published here?”

“That’s right. This was published in November 1968. I was asked to write it. I was solicited. I had no intention of so doing.”

“Nobody ever interviewed you from any German magazines or papers?”

“Oh no. No, no.”

“To this day?”

“Not to this day.”

“Did anybody ever, officially from Germany, come and contact you for a kind of historical documentation, of the [???German Federal] archives in Koblenz and places like that?”

“No.”

“No. Never?”

“Never.”

Similar to this is the account given by Dr. Charles Larson, a U.S. forensic pathologist working for the U.S. Army’s Judge Advocate General. Right after the war, Dr. Larson performed autopsies on hundreds of victims in some twenty former concentration camps. In 1980, a newspaper article appeared reporting about his wartime experience. We read there:[46]

“Larson has talked little publicly about the war experience. One reason for his silence has been that his autopsy findings conflicted with the widely held belief that most Jews in Nazi camps were exterminated by gassing, shooting or poisoning.

‘What we’ve heard is that 6 million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax,’ Larson said. […]

Never was a case of poisoning uncovered, he said.”

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Larson’s biographer wrote the following about this episode, quote:[47]

“In one grave the bulldozers uncovered an estimated 2,000 bodies, many of which were subjected to autopsy examination by Major Larson. All of those autopsied had died of various conditions such as emaciation with starvation, tuberculosis, typhus or other infectious diseases.

For the next ten days, many nights with only an hour or two of restless sleep, Larson worked among the dead. He performed about 25 autopsies a day and superficially examined another 300 to 1,000 bodies. He autopsied only those bodies that appeared to have died questionably. ‘Many of them died of typhus,’ Dr. Larson told me recently.

At Dachau Larson’s work – the profile of the prisoner population that his autopsies projected – indicated that only a small percentage of the deaths were due to medical experimentation on humans. It indicated that most of the victims died from so-called ‘natural causes’ at the time; that is, of disease brought on by malnutrition and filth which are the handmaidens of war.”

Today, these particular camps are admitted not to have had homicidal gas chambers at all. So, none of the corpses seen in these images were gassed. What you see in these images are prisoners who died from disease, as well as a lack of appropiate food, water and medical supplies. A large part of their condition was due to the Allies bombing supply lines to the camps.

Allied fighter planes even bombed and strafed trainloads full of prisoners as they were being evacuated to different camps. Those prisoners who weren’t hit by bullets or bombs were without appropiate supplies for days until arriving at their destinantion.

The liberation of Dachau concentration camp is dramatized in the film Shutter Island. The Americans liberating Dachau came across what became known as “The Dachau Death Trains”. They saw bullet holes in the sides of the trains and dead prisoners inside in terrible condition, believing the Germans locked starved prisoners inside the trains, then machine gunned them, the Americans turned their fury to the capture of German guards.

“The guards surrendered, we took their guns, and we lined them up. It wasn’t warfare, it was, it was murder!”

Many of the German guards who surrendered the camp had only recently been transferred to the camp in the final days of the war. Some were just teenagers from surrounding towns. Ironically, this young German guard even looks like the young DiCaprio. This young German was not a deliberate holocauster of Jews or anyone else but a young man tragically swept into the final days of the most brutal war in the history of mankind. The German soldiers surrendered, and with their hands up, the Americans shot dozens of captured unarmed German guards. And it didn’t happen in the heat of the moment either, as this movie suggests. In fact, the Americans actually brought the guards to the camp’s coal yard, got a heavy machine gun from their vehicle and brought it into position, and they had their army photographers take pictures of the event, as this photo and others prove. It was a war crime. The Americans played judge, jury and executioner. They even dragged German soldiers from a nearby hospital and shot them, even though they had nothing to do with the camp at all, let alone the death trains. Here is the testimony of one of the Americans involved in this murder:[48]

“I was not prepared for what I saw in Dachau. Nothing could prepare you for that. Nothing could prepare you for that type of slaughter that was carried on in that camp. […]

I never liked to see people killed unnecessarily, no matter what their stripe is or what they have done. We did kill some people there that I consider unnecessarily. However, given the circumstances, while I am sorry about it, it was just one of those things that no one could control. Actually, the people that we killed died a much easier death than the people that they tortured and killed as we subsequently found out. Torture and hangings and executions in various manners was a daily occurrence. So, in a way, we were kinder to them than they were to the people that they murdered.”

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The only problem is that the people he helped to kill were not those who had run the camp for many years.

But evidence has come to light that the Germans did not lock prisoners inside the trains and machine gun them.

The bullets which tore through the trains full of prisoners were not German bullets but in fact the result of Allied war planes strafing the trains.

Here is a Jewish former prisoner talking about the Allies bombing and shooting his train, killing prisoners on the way to Dachau, explaining their condition:

“I was ordered to go march out to the railroad station back into the cattle cars, but this time they had open wagons and regular cattle cars. But the only difference it was that the railroad tracks, on one track, the Nazis were retreating with the heavy artillery, ammunition and all their hardware. In another track the concentration camp inmates in the train load. The Nazis were hoping maybe because we are there they will not be bombed.

It would have been a short trip, but it took us almost three days to get to Dachau. What had happened, we got hit by air raid. They bombed the both of the tracks, they machine gunned our train. And in the train were I was sitting – this time it wasn’t so loaded – we were all squatting down. Both of the fellows beside me got hit by machine gun fire. And I just, days… by then the guards were gone. We opened the railroad car and stumbled out of the car and walked into the woods in nearby, and hid there. Remember going out on the fields and dug off some potatoes for food. But they came back next morning or a day later with dogs, gathered us together and ordered us back to the railroad cars. They never removed the bodies. This is how we arrived to Dachau.”

This Jew’s train was bombed and shot by Allied planes. The prisoners the Allies killed were left inside the train. Prisoners who weren’t blown up or shot by the Allies suffered further malnutrition, in part due to the bombing of train tracks, delaying their journey.

The Allies were directly responsible for killing many on these death trains. Bullets from Allied air planes tore through the bodies of those prisoners shortly before the American infantry arrived at Dachau. American infantry, ignorant of the role of Allied bombing and strafing runs contributing to the deaths of the prisoners inside the death trains, put the blame on the Germans.

They lined the unarmed, surrendered German guards against a wall and executed them, committing a war crime, which has gone unpunished to this day. Misunderstandings, propaganda, falsehoods, blind patriotism, mistakes, rushing to judgement. How else could millions be driven to killing their own people, themselves essentially?

“It wasn’t warfare, it was murder.”

The Allies also directly bombed concentration camp prisoners, and today we are told this is proof of a German planned Holocaust.

This is another segment from the American propaganda film “Nazi Concentration Camps” which was shown at the Nuremberg Trials.

“The slave-labor camp at Nordhausen liberated by the Third Armored Division, First Army. At least three thousand political prisoners died here at the brutal hands of SS troops and hardened German criminals who were the camp guards. Nordhausen had been a depository for slaves found unfit for work in the underground V-bomb plants and in other German camps and factories.”

A deceptively captioned image of Nordhausen appears in Steven Spielberg’s The Last Days companion book. We see American solders walking past corpses strewn on the ground. The caption reads:

“The horrific scene of mass annihilation within the Nordhausen concentration camp.”

Let’s look closer at the photograph. We can see the buildings have been bombed. Testimony of former prisoners shows they were lucky to survive Allied bombing attacks.

This Jewish former prisoner and doctor describes prisoners laying in the camp hospital, sick of tuberculosis in the final days of the war.

“And there I had over 4 thousand prisoners laying on tuberculosis. Sick. What are you doing? It’s tuberculosis. No medications, nothing, hardly food, it was very meager already. The Germans didn’t have to eat.”

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This former prisoner and doctor described conditions in the camp in the final days of the war. Sick prisoners didn’t have enough supplies. However, he points out the Germans themselves also didn’t have enough even to eat. Clearly, the Germans could have killed the sick prisoners at any time, yet instead treated them in hospitals.

“And all of the sudden, it was April 3rd at 3 o’clock, alarm, and American air force over us, and dropped the bombs just on our camp. And the whole camp was entirely destroyed. And out of this four thousand people, we were 200 survived. Because they died there. They were in the camps, you know. Hanging in the ceiling, their bodies and… It was awful. It was burning days and days. We were still…, the nurses, the doctors, the administration people, the working administration… we ran away.

 

And the Americans made a mistake because they didn’t know this is a concentration camp. They knew it is a military camp. They emptied the military the month before and in January they put us in, you see. So, they didn’t know. So, they came back at 9 o’clock in the morning and hit the whole city. The whole city they flattened. We ran away in the wood, in the fields, and when they emptied the planes, they came and strafed us with machine guns. They didn’t know who it is. They are Germans, you know. And we went into the woods, and we remained about a week in the woods. And we ate only the raw potatoes.”

British Royal Air Force bombed the camp, full of sick prisoners. They turned around and shot survivors running for their lives. They flattened the nearby town, full of innocent German civilians.

The British are primarily responsible for the scene of, quote, “mass annihilation.” But images of Nordhausen recently bombed and strafed by British planes are still used today as proof of a deliberate German-planned Holocaust.

And it’s important to note that most of those seen in this photograph aren’t even Jews but primarily non-Jewish political prisoners, including Poles, Russians and Jehovah’s Witnesses. These majority non-Jewish victims of Allied bombing at a former labor camp are used to sell a supposed Jewish Holocaust.

The Oprah program deceptively used two shots of the aftermath of the British air raid at Nordhausen.

“More than six millions of those human beings were Jewish.”

This victim of the Allies blowing up and strafing sick prisoners at Nordhausen being carried over rubble was in fact likely not Jewish. So, we’re looking at someone who is both not killed by the Germans but by the British and who is likely not a Jew.

Here is another clip of Nordhausen. The prisoners of the camp for seriously ill prisoners were blown up and shot by the British, and were buried in this mass grave. The soldiers standing at the edge are Americans. But we are led to assume they are Germans, standing at attention after a job well done.

“[…] that brutally wiped millions of people off the face of the earth.”

Actually, the British brutally wiped these prisoners off the face of the earth. The Germans put them in a camp with doctors and nurses.

What’s incredible is that you were shown these images as proof of an organized, planned, systematic extermination program going according to plan.

“A systematic mass murder meticulously planned and executed …”

…when in reality, this was the result of the total disorganization and utter chaos of a collapsing Germany which was still being bombed relentlessly into submission.

Rather than do the right thing and accept blame for what could be said is accidental collateral damage based on faulty intelligence, the Allies instead just blamed the Germans. Images of a camp full of sick prisoners bombed and strafed by British planes at Nordhausen are used as proof of a systematic, planned German extermination program. However, every single mostly non-Jewish prisoner in this imagery was killed due to a British bomb or bullet.

The editing of the film “Nazi Concentration Camps” was supervised by Budd Schulberg, born Seymour Schulberg, son of the head of Paramount Studios. Schulberg was Jewish and a member of the communist party USA until 1939.

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All of these dead were murdered with British bombs or bullets. Yet no mention is made of that. Schulberg claims they died at the brutal hands of Germans.

“At least 3 thousand political prisoners died here at the brutal hands of SS troops and hardened German criminals who were the camp guards.”

This is a total lie and inversion of history. The final shot of the “Nazi Concentration Camps” film shows footage of a prisoner at Nordhausen who had his head blown off.

A prisoner account describes exactly how this happened and who is responsible:[49]

“THE APRIL 3 BOMBING. The accounts refer first of all to the Tuesday, April 3 bombing: ‘Right from the first blast, I took shelter under the concrete staircase of the Revier. A bomb hit the Block and the staircase was demolished. I ran to the middle of the camp, to a shelter dug right into the ground, where there were already a dozen civilians, women, children, and also an SS man – as green from fear as his uniform – who could only stammer: ‘Schrecklich! Schrecklich!’ (Horrible! Horrible!) And indeed, it was not a pretty sight; corpses every five or six yards, headless or their innards ripped open.”

Today, images of Nordhausen are widely used as proof of a Jewish Holocaust. Why is this particular image so popular? The bodies of those blown up or shot by the British, then pulled out of craters or the rubble of buildings and lined up in ordered rows by the Americans are meant to imply an orderly German method of mass murder. Apparently, they want us to believe the Germans lined all these prisoners up here in neat rows and shot them where they stood. If these dead people were German soldiers, the Brits would pat themselves on the back for a job well done. Instead, the Allies just blamed their bombing and shooting screw up on the Germans. What a horrific scam, pulled right in front of our very eyes. Imagery of tragic deaths which were the direct result of the Allies’ actions are cynically exploited to sell a lie.

[Footage showing historian Stephen Ambrose:]

“Adolf Hitler was pure evil. And he was in command of the most advanced technology and the best-disciplined people and the best-educated people in the world.”

“In the wrong hands, technology helped turn Europe into a slaughter house. This was a war that was also a crime.”

“Eisenhower, when he first encountered concentration camps, was shocked and surprised. He hadn’t been told about it. His immediate reaction was, ‘This is so horrible that there will inevitably become a revisionist movement some day to say ‘this never happened; this is propaganda; this is a figment of wartime imagination,’ so he insisted that every GI who could be marched through those camps and he said ‘bring your cameras with you.’”

This is a classic quote used to attempt to refute revisionists. Eisenhower said, there would be deniers in the future, so he ordered witnesses march through camps and film them. No one denies these are real bodies. But the false analysis of their cause of death deflecting all blame onto Germans is the propaganda. Every single shot in this news segment was taken at Nordhausen. All of the footage of murdered prisoners in the sick camp at Nordhausen shows prisoners blown up or shot by the British.

This is another example of the propaganda formula: supposed expert, deceptive imagery, plus calling those who question it evil haters. It turns out this master historian was later accused of plagiarism throughout his entire career.[50] He even lied about spending hundreds of hours with Eisenhower and meeting with him daily. Official records show he spent five hours on the record with Eisenhower. This is the mentality of these master historians, promoted to the forefront of the monopoly media. There was no plan to turn these prisoners into this condition. This was the result of the catastrophic end to the war. Not everything going perfectly according to an evil plan.

Up until this time these images of a bulldozer dumping naked emaciated corpses into a mass grave at Bergen-Belsen were the most horrifying imagery in the history of film. This film footage was shown to our grandparents’ generation on a big screen. It has been shown to you at a young age. What are you to believe? Some programs such as the Oprah presentation lead one to assume this is a German driving this bulldozer, making his quota of gassed Jews for the day, rather than a British solder pushing epidemic typhus victims into a mass grave.

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Until the end of the war, Bergen-Belsen was not a death camp were Germans deliberately starved to death and murdered prisoners. In fact, it was originally designated as a recuperation camp, or Krankenlager, where sick prisoners were sent to improve their health. It wasn’t such a terrible place until the final days of the war, and there is evidence to prove it. Rose Kahn, a Hungarian Jew, was transported from Auschwitz to Bergen-Belsen in the summer of 1944. Before Auschwitz was abandoned, and Bergen-Belsen was severely overcrowded, she describes Bergen-Belsen as not such a terrible place.

“So, when we arrived to Bergen-Belsen, and they told us to get out, and the Nazis came with those big, big dogs, with their wolves, and they asked us who cannot walk, is sick, should tell ‘em, so they gonna put us on a bus. I was afraid to say it. I couldn’t walk, but I didn’t say it. And if I would say, would been good, because this was not a bad place. This was not at that time, at that time.”

“So in other words it wasn’t a trick?”

“No, no.”

“They really would have taken you by bus.”

“Yes, yes, yes.”

“I think you were right, though.”

“Yes, but I was so afraid, so my mother and my friends were holding me. We had to walk a few miles, quite a few miles to it. And we arrived there, and we lived in tents and straw, we slept on straw. And we weren’t treated badly. No, it wasn’t too bad over there. We were given nice meals. What happened? They wanted us strong to send out to work, so they didn’t want weak and sick people.”

Witnesses such as this help prove that Bergen-Belsen was not a specially designed death camp whatsoever. Before the catastrophic end of the war, prisoners were routinely fed and decently cared for.

The major trick of the Holocaust promotion industry is to show these horrible images of emaciated bodies and make you believe that prisoners were always like this. That the Germans immediately starved them to death, and this deliberate starvation had been going on for years as part of their plan of extermination. However, witnesses such as this and others prove that at times the concentration camps were not so terrible.

“This was not a bad place. This was not at that time.”

It was only as Germany was losing the war, surrounded on all sides by a terror bombing campaign from the west and marauding Soviets in the east, that conditions in camps such as Bergen-Belsen deteriorated disastrously.

“And then we stayed there until they started to build barracks for all the other Auschwitz people when Bergen-Belsen became hell.”

Bergen-Belsen became hellish at the very end of the war. The major cause of this was the Allied bombing campaign. As the Allies fire-bombed German civilian population centers, burning innocent men, women and children alive and shot at or bombed just about anything that moved on roads or train tracks, even the Germans themselves had trouble finding enough to eat at the time.

[Camp survivors interviewed:]

“…hardly food, it was very meager already. The Germans didn’t have to eat.”

“Food didn’t improve very much because, simple reason, they didn’t have very much themselves, so…”

“Did the civilians try to help you at all? Did they trade goods for things?”

“It’s as I say, we had almost everything what we wanted, from the soccer teams, from the civilians, from outside civilians.”

The spread of deadly diseases and severe overcrowding exacerbated the entire situation. Prisoners from areas in the east which were now being overrun by the Soviets were hastily evacuated west. After days or weeks journey, often on foot, they wound up in these overcrowded camps full of deadly diseases. And because the German infrastructure was being destroyed, this was catastrophic.

In early February 1945, a large transport of Hungarians were admitted to Bergen-Belsen while the disinfestation facility was out of order. As a result, typhus broke out and quickly spread beyond control. The hot-air delousing machine sometimes failed to work for several days. The worst killer was typhus. But typhoid fever and dysentery also claimed their lives.

There was a breakdown in order and communication throughout the German system as the Germans were losing the war and fighting for their survival. Trainloads of food were destroyed by Allied planes. At Bergen-Belsen, the final factor which guaranteed mass casualties was in the final weeks of the war: The Allies bombed the power plant which supplied electricity to the facilities that pumped water to the camp.

[85:12]

“Water too had been cut off. And so, the water cart was the most important thing to arrive. There had be no water supply for six days. The Germans pleaded it had been cut.”[51]

The electric plant which powered pumps supplying water to Bergen-Belsen was not cut by some unnamed force. It was blown up by the British. A destroyed system for providing clean water to the camp compounded already disastrous hygiene and medical conditions. Clean water, necessary to shower prisoners, wash clothing and treat dehydrated typhoid fever, dysentery and typhus patients was indeed cut off by British bombs.

“One might ask why all the inmates surviving were not removed out of the camp altogether to a large town, for example, where there would be feeding and housing facilities. The answer is simply the dread word – typhus.

A mobile bacteriological unit and all medical aid possible together with 90 medical students from London hospitals were rushed to the spot to deal with it.

Lack of soap and water brought lice to the inmates, and lice carry typhus. To get rid of typhus, one must first get rid of lice, so contaminated patients were removed from their huts and put through a laundry process.”

The British struggled to remedy disastrous conditions in Bergen-Belsen after liberation. Many thousands died after liberation. In the end, the British burned the wooden barracks, as they became infested with deadly epidemic-typhus-carrying body lice. Images of the disastrous situation at Bergen-Belsen are fraudulently used to portray a deliberate German extermination policy.

These post-liberation images of Bergen-Belsen as well as Dachau and Nordhausen have become symbols of German barbarism. But these people were victims of the larger war, not a deliberate German extermination plan. The Germans did what they could to keep people alive, and in some cases contacted the Red Cross for assistance and even turned over some camps to them. The shameful truth hidden amongst this Holocaust propaganda is that not only were none of these people gassed, but the Allies played a major role in their deaths.

As terrible as these images of emaciated prisoners are, images of union prisoners of the American confederate civil war camp Andersonville show liberated prisoners also appeared in a similar condition. What happened at Andersonville was a complete breakdown in hygiene measures due to inadequate sanitation facilities. Toilets in the overcrowded camp didn’t drain properly, exposing prisoners to filth and disease, in particular dysentery. Symptoms of dysentery include diarrhea and rapid weight loss. In extreme cases, patients may pass over a liter of fluid per hour. It’s easy to see how someone who is repeatedly defecating, vomiting and urinating would quickly lose body weight, especially if food supplies, medicine and water became scarce.

At Andersonville, as overcrowding increased, so did the death toll. The confederates also lost the war in a catastrophic way much like the Germans. So, there is a direct correlation between the images of Andersonville prisoners and the so-called Holocaust images.

Now, these people at Andersonville aren’t Jews, and never has anyone alleged the South aimed for a total genocide of Northerners. The photographs of Andersonville and for instance Bergen-Belsen are quite similar and correlate with the breakdown in hygiene, overcrowding, the spread of disease and one side of the war losing catastrophically. What you see in these images at Bergen-Belsen is primarily the result of typhus.

Typhus is a disease carried by the body louse which is similar to head lice. But body lice prefer to attach themselves not to the scalp but to the inner seams of clothing. Typhus was responsible for the deaths of millions throughout history. Typhus epidemics routinely occurred throughout Europe during war time. During World War I, more than three million people died from typhus.

What you see in these images are primarily typhus epidemic victims. The Germans did not intentionally starve them to death. We can see several people liberated from the camps. Although not in pristine condition, some appear well fed, some even fat. They simply didn’t have disease. The Germans in fact tried to stop the spread of disease. The insecticide Zyklon B was a pesticide used to kill these deadly typhus-carrying body lice.

[90:02]

There is nothing inherently murderous about Zyklon B. In fact, Zyklon B was used on the Mexican border to gas the clothing of Mexicans crossing the border. The delousing process went like this:

Prisoners entering a camp would strip their clothing and get a haircut to prevent any areas where deadly typhus-carrying body lice could thrive. Then they would take a hot shower. At the same time, their clothing would be put into specially designed fumigation chambers where fumigation crews would use the insecticide Zyklon B to kill deadly typhus-carrying body lice.

The prisoners would then be given clean, lice-free clothing, and enter the camp. It is easy to see how this life saving delousing process involving real fumigation chambers for clothing and real showers was misconstrued into wartime propaganda about showers of gas by prisoners spreading rumors as well as Soviet propaganda artists deliberately framing their enemies.

One of the final exhibits at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. sums up the importance of the information presented in this video.

Museum visitors are bombarded with film clips taken after the Allies captured concentration and labor camps. These films are meant to represent proof of a deliberate German extermination policy. But you have now seen many of these clips, explained and debunked.

Near the end of the museum’s main exhibit two banks of three video monitors flanking a fallen Nazi flag play film footage taken after camps were captured by the Allies.

Each of the three monitors is dedicated to one of the three major Allied powers: the Soviet Union, United States and Great Britain.

On this screen is US Army footage taken at Nordhausen, Dachau and Buchenwald. The caption reads:

“Local German civilians are ordered to tour Buchenwald Concentration Camp.”

This is an American army official gathering Germans around the supposed human-skin lamp shade and the table filled with propaganda props. Visitors are shown the Dachau death trains full of victims of Allied bombing and strafing attacks. Majdanek, the outside of a real shower facility, “Bath and Disinfection II,” and the inside of “Bath and Disinfection I” showing the real, working shower room. Again, the camera is angled away from the many windows. The caption reads:

“Soviet Army officers inspect chambers where prisoners were killed by poison gas.”

Today, every serious mainstream historian acknowledges this wasn’t a gas chamber with fake shower heads, it was a real working shower room designed to keep prisoners alive and free of disease.

Again, the bulldozer pushing epidemic typhus victims into a mass grave at Bergen-Belsen. A disaster, but not deliberate or planned.

On the last television screen, we’re shown footage of Nordhausen bombed to smithereens by 500 British warplanes over two days. Much like at the Nuremberg trials, the final shot we are shown before moving on to the exhibit on post-war trials is the victim of British war planes at Nordhausen with his exposed brains.

How sick to show gory imagery of Allied air attack victims as proof of the evilness of Germans.

Mothers rushing their children past this section never question the context of this imagery. This is powerful, trauma-based mind control used to brainwash, not by using logic and facts, but by searing these horror images into a captive audience’s mind, and manipulating emotions with mendacious narrations.

Real shower rooms, phony planted evidence like this lamp shade, and victims of Allied bombing are not proof of a genocide using gas chambers, disguised as shower rooms. We were manipulated, misled and lied to.

We were shown images taken during the final days of a destroyed and collapsed Germany as proof of a systematic, planned extermination program. Upon further investigation by the western Allies, these claims of extermination camps equipped with homicidal gas chambers in western-liberated camps have fallen by the wayside.

However, the powerful imagery of these western-liberated, overcrowded, disease-infested camps, devastated due to the Allied bombing campaign in the final months of the worst war in the history of mankind is still used to brainwash the public as proof of an extermination program of gas chambers disguised as shower rooms in camps captured by the Soviet Union.

In Part 2 of this documentary, we will explore some aspects of the most infamous of these camps: Auschwitz.

[94:55]

Disclaimer

This documentary is not meant to whitewash the National Socialist regime of Germany from any of its undisputed wrongdoings. Imprisoning people without proper due process is a crime. Any authority committing such a crime ultimately bears responsibility for those in its custody.

However, this crime was not only committed by the German authorities prior to and during World War II, but during the war also by the U.S. authorities who imprisoned many Japanese Americans as well as Italian and German immigrants. The biggest criminal in this regard, however, was the US’s most important ally of the Second World War, the Soviet Union, where millions were imprisoned and ultimately murdered prior to, during and after the war.

Unfortunately, this crime of unlawful incarceration is today again committed by U.S. authorities in Guantanamo Bay and other similar facilities.

[95:52]

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Notes

[1]

As of Oct. 2017, the following were found online (U = USHMM, Y = Yad Vashem): Auschwitz (U = “over 960,000” total, Y = “more than 1,100,000” total); Belzec (U = approximately 434,500, Y = 600,000); Sobibor (U = “at least 170,000”, Y = 250,000); Treblinka (U = “between 870,000 and 925,000”, Y = 870,000); Majdanek (U = “unknown”, “Between 89,000 and 110,000” “Most succumbed to starvation, disease, exposure, and the effects of physical torture or back-breaking labor performed under threat of violence”, Y = no number, total Jewish death toll “60,000” (Kranz), “200,000” (Łukaszkiewicz)); Chelmno (U = “at least 152,000”, Y = 320,000).

[2]

www.un.org/en/holocaustremembrance/docs/res607.shtml

[3]

Donald Trump, “Statement by the President on International Holocaust Remembrance Day,” Jan. 27, 2017; www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/27/statement-president-international-holocaust-remembrance-day (accessed on Oct. 4, 2017)

[4]

https://twitter.com/JGreenblattADL/status/825029350126936064 (accessed on Oct. 4, 2017).

[5]

The Guardian, Jan 27, 2017; www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/27/white-house-holocaust-remembrance-day-no-jews; Commentary, Jan 28, 2017; www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/the-white-house-holocaust-horror/;

[6]

Jake, “WH: No mention of Jews on Holocaust Remembrance Day because others were killed too,” CNN, Jan. 28, 2017; http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/white-house-holocaust-memorial-day

[7]

Louise Ridley, “The Holocaust’s Forgotten Victims: The 5 Million Non-Jewish People Killed By The Nazis,” The Huffington Post, Jan 27, 2015; www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/27/holocaust-non-jewish-victims_n_6555604.html; for more see Hadding Scott, “Anti-Gentiles Deny the 5 Million!,” Inconvenient History, Vol. 9, No. 2, spring 2017; www.codoh.comhttps://www.inconvenienthistory.com/9/2/4239/

[8]

Ron Kampeas, “‘Remember the 11 million’? Why an inflated victims tally irks Holocaust historians,” Jewish Telegraph Agency, Jan. 31, 2017; www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/; The Times of Israel, Feb. 1, 2017; www.timesofisrael.com/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/

[9]

Deborah Lipstadt, “The Trump Administration’s Flirtation With Holocaust Denial,” The Atlantic Monthly, Jan 30, 2017; www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/the-trump-administrations-softcore-holocaust-denial/514974/

[10]

https://youtu.be/OxJZBrtFD6Y

[11]

Best resolution in two parts: https://youtu.be/6wJDlh5ozEY & … https://youtu.be/BQ0m-0AZ-m0

[12]

Ibid. starting at 1 min 23 sec.

[13]

Ibid. starting at 1 min 59 sec.

[14]

Caroline Sturdy Colls, Holocaust Archaeologies: Approaches and Future Directions, Springer, Cham, 2015, p. 3, footnote.

[15]

Matthew Day, “Nazis may have killed up to 20m, claims ‘shocking’ new Holocaust study,” Daily Telegraph, March 4, 2013; www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/9906771/Nazis-may-have-killed-up-to-20m-claims-shocking-new-Holocaust-study.html

[16]

https://youtu.be/_pQJ42ONPDo; starting at 45:18; see the authentications and explanation: IMT Document PS-2430: Nazi Concentration and Prisoner-of-War Camps: A Documentary Motion Picture, film shown at the Nuremberg Trial, 29 November 1945, IMT, XXX, p. 470;

[17]

www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005214

[18]

E. Kogon, H. Langbein, A. Rückerl (eds.), Nazi Mass Murder, Yale Univ. Press, New Haven/London 1993.

[19]

Document PS-3249, IMT, Vol. 32, pp. 57-64, here p. 62, quoted in IMT, Vol. 5, pp. 172f.

[20]

Document 159-L, IMT, Vol 37, pp. 605-627, here p. 621.

[21]

“Dachau Concentration Camp”; https://youtu.be/pIxOQdeCWX0; 18:00-18:05

[22]

Levi Mierau, “Dachau Concentration Camp,” Documentary, Part 2; https://youtu.be/MQvB3sLER34; 6:55-7:01

[23]

U.S. National Archives, Dachau Trial (Trial of Martin Gottfried Weiss), M1174, Reel 1, microfilm page 000135.

[24]

Nuremberg Document NO-3886.

[25]

Nuremberg Document NO-3887.

[26]

NS 21/319.

[27]

Levi Mierau, “Dachau Concentration Camp,” Documentary, Part 2; https://youtu.be/MQvB3sLER34; 6:00-6:13.

[28]

Ibid., 6:54-7:23.

[29]

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa1154600

[30]

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa23334

[31]

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa1166433

[32]

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa1058759

[33]

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa1158576

[34]

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa1174716

[35]

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa1168298

[36]

Ludwig Gassner, “Verkehrshygiene und Schädlingsbekämpfung,” Gesundheits-Ingenieur, 66(15) (1943) pp. 174-176.

[37]

See Richard Irmscher, “Nochmals: ‘Die Einsatzfähigkeit der Blausäure bei tiefen Temperaturen,’” Zeitschrift für hygienische Zoologie und Schädlingsbekämpfung, 34 (1942), pp. 35f.

[38]

Paul Berben, Histoire du camp de concentration de Dachau, 1933-1945, Comité international de Dachau, Brussels 1968, p. 12.

[39]

Yad Vashem Archives, 1211/28, item ID 38051.

[40]

Yad Vashem Archives, 4029, item ID 57452.

[41]

http://www.historywiz.org/finalsolution.htm

[42]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IJ4mpCDVpE

[43]

3762-PS; IMT, Vol. 33, p. 68.

[44]

Russell Barton, “Belsen,” in: History of the Second World War, 109 (1975), pp. 3025-3029; cf. Barbara Kulaszka (ed.), Did Six Million Really Die?, Samisdat Publishers, Toronto 1992, pp. 175-180; www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres3/KULA.pdf (different pagination).

[45]

https://youtu.be/v8vGpqQBpNU

[46]

Jane Floerchinger, “Concentration Camp Conditions Killed Most Inmates, Doctor Says,” The Wichita Eagle, April 1, 1980, p. 4C.

[47]

John D. McCallum, Crime Doctor, The Writing Works, Mercer Island, Wash., 1978, pp. 57-60, 69.

[48]

Levi Mierau, “Dachau Concentration Camp,” Documentary, Part 1, 5:32-5 :49 (https://youtu.be/cCi_PLl-rJs); Part 3, 0-1:03 (https://youtu.be/Xpnl-YyafI).

[49]

André Sellier, A History of the Dora Camp: The Story of the Nazi Slave Labor Camp that Secretly Manufactured V-2 Rockets, Ivan R. Dee, Chicago, 2003, p. 291.

[50]

David Plotz, “The Plagiarist: Why Stephen Ambrose is a vampire,” Jan. 11, 2002; www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/assessment/2002/01/the_plagiarist.html.

[51]

“Memory of the Camps”, Alfred Hitchcock “documentary”; https://youtu.be/DY9y7cmmmFQ.

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[A fascinating discussion by Joe Atwill and Tim Kelly joining all the dots connecting the evil psychiatrist Ewen Cameron, CD Jackson, MK-Ultra, Fake News, Zionists, “Nazis“, Mind Control and Holocau$t Revisionism.

This discussion should be of great interest to “Holocaust” revisionists in that it places the “Holocaust” into a much broader context of a long term and on-going mind-manipulation program by the oligarchs, aka, organised jewry —  KATANA.]

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Our Interesting Times

Ewen Cameron, CD Jackson, MK-Ultra, Fake News, Zionists, Nazis, Mind Control and Holocaust Revisionism

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Powers & Principalities XI

Ewen Cameron, MK-Ultra &

Holocaust Revisionism

Published on Aug 5, 2017

TRANSCRIPT

[00:43]

Tim: Joe you’re back. How you doing?

Joe: I’m great Tim! How are you doing?

Tim: Very well. Doing very well. Thank you. Tonight you want to talk about, well an interesting character, Donald Ewen Cameron. Ewen Cameron, most people know him as. He was a psychiatrist, a very, I guess, theoretical, would you say, a “groundbreaking psychiatrist“, you could say? He was born in Scotland in 1901. He began his career as a resident surgeon at Glasgow Infirmary. In 1929 he moved to Canada to work in Brandon Mental Hospital. 1936 he became a director of research at Worcester State Hospital in Massachusetts, so he came to United States. In 1938 he was appointed professor of neurology and psychiatry at Albany State Medical School.

[Image] Donald Ewen Cameron.

Donald Ewen Cameron (24 December 1901 – 8 September 1967)  — known as D. Ewen Cameron or Ewen Cameron — was a Scottish-born psychiatrist who served as President of the American Psychiatric Association (1952–1953), Canadian Psychiatric Association (1958-1959),  American Psychopathological Association (1963), Society of Biological Psychiatry (1965)[4] and World Psychiatric Association (1961-1966). Notwithstanding his high professional reputation, he has been criticized for administering electroshock therapy and experimental drugs to patients without their informed consent. Some of this work took place in the context of the Project MK-Ultra mind control program. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron

So he has quite a resume! During the Second World War he began working for the Office of Strategic Services [OSS]. So here we have a member of the British, subject the British Empire working for the United States, working for the OSS. In 1943 he went to Canada and established a psychiatry department — that’s curious — during the war, at Montreal’s McGill University, director of the Alan Memorial Institute, which was later implicated in some infamous experiments on some patients, under the guise of MK-Ultra and also some other programs with the Canadian government.

Also a curious experience during the war. He apparently examined and interrogated Rudolf Hess, and worked for Allen Dulles in Europe. So he had that background.

And of course, under MK-Ultra, he tested his theories, I guess it was called “de-patterning” where he wiped, scrubbed people’s brains clear. He takes some patients that went in for some minor things like postpartum depression, anxiety, and destroyed their minds! And this was funded by the CIA through the Human Ecology Fund, I believe. And also through interest in some Department of Education grants, or Department of Health Education Welfare grants and some other government agencies, DOD [Department of Defense] of course.

Joe: Rockefeller, …

Tim: And the Rockefeller Foundation. So just it’s kind of a wide, … Also a lot of money from the Canadian government, as well. More money came from the Canadian government. And it’s said that he was operating in Canada because the CIA didn’t want to break the law in experiments on US citizens. Yeah, right! [laughing]

So anyway, that is Ewen Cameron. That’s his experience in MK-Ultra. He died in 1967, having a heart attack while on a skiing trip. So, where do you want to, how do you want to enter this discussion?

Joe: Well, he’s someone who really should be understood. I mean, just you couldn’t have an individual that’s more important, in my opinion. You have to get a good grip on.

Cameron is important, because he spans, and was integral to, two absolutely central narratives, basically. One of them was tangential, and that is the MK-Ultra stuff. And so basically, MK-Ultra even though, it has this concept of being, you know, studying basically individual psychological people. And the idea has come about that it was going to create, you know, a Manchurian Candidate, or mind control puppets.

[Image] Robert Gordon Wasson (September 22, 1898 – December 23, 1986) author and ethnomycologist. Photograph by Allan B. Richardson in 1955, Mexico. He was an American author, amateur ethnomycologist, and Vice President for Public Relations at J.P. Morgan & Co. In the course of independent research, Wasson made contributions to the fields of ethnobotany, botany, and anthropology. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Gordon_Wasson

It was also against culture in general. Right? I mean, it was basically, when you look at the work of Gordon Wasson and the MK-Ultra funding, you can see that the science was going to be applied on a vast scale! And we’ve talked about where this vast scale psychological operation has various strands. You know, you can trace it back. But, Cameron was very famous, because he got caught!

And it really led to a lot of the research that has become the new history that is emerging through the alternative media, which is, that the whole counterculture was a government or “secret society” operation, right? And the reason why Cameron was so central, is that he got caught!

[05:08]

You know, it’s a kind of a long story, and it’s not kind of what I want to get into, but basically people were able to bring testimony – and there was enough corroboration that it was just inescapable – that Cameron had done this “de-patterning”, which was basically using humans to see if he could erase their mind, their memory, and then recreate a new human being, basically a new mind. This was done without their consent, obviously. No one would consent to this. So it was experimentation with a very strong moral authority, in other words Cameron was taking the position that, you know, my science is more important than your existence. Right!

This is the same moral authority we see in the creation of the counterculture. I mean, who would create the Grateful Dead? Who would have the idea of doing that and have them give out millions of tabs of LSD to teenagers which would produce, you know, wasted lives and in many cases just shattered minds? But some group does have this authority and Cameron was part of it.

Now, in Cameron’s case he got caught. They brought all this evidence, meticulous scientific evidence, you know, showing that here these people were, here are the symptoms, here is a corroborating, … Sort of, there was some documentation on what they were like when they left by other psychiatrists would examine them. And they brought their [law] suits and the CIA fessed up, and it said OK, you know, we’re going to give you a bunch of money. And so they basically bought off the victims of Cameron’s experiments.

So Cameron led to then, you know, a lot of research into MK-Ultra. And this then kind of began to bring about the idea of that MK-Ultra was really not just individual science, ah, science that we can affect individuals, but science on a broad scale.

And so, this was really troubling to me. And I’ve mentioned this a couple of times, Tim, I’ve said, you know, I don’t understand how Ewen Cameron could have done the things that he did, because he is the one who brought to the world the idea of the Germans as a nation that was guilty of atrocity.

Cameron was of an amazingly high stature in the world of psychology. He had, basically, he was running the whole science at this time. He was the head of some world organisation. He was the head of the Canadian psychological departments. And so, he was called on to provide basically the science that would underline what became known as the Nuremberg Trial.

[Image] Aerial view of Nuremberg’s “Palace of Justice” in winter 1945-46

And so, he wrote two books about the Germans. And basically they began, with some other events that we’ll go into in a second, but they began the idea that there was a problem with the German race. So you had, …

Tim: Like a congenital defect, or something?

Joe: Like it was a congenital defect, right! So he wrote these books, one of which he wrote before he arrived in Nuremberg, and the other afterwards. And this is what created the basis for the idea of “German collective guilt”.

He said that, basically, that we had to be certain that we would restructure the German psychology. De-patterning, right. So that it would never arise as a military threat.

So, it was Cameron, then, who basically, … And he used expressions like:

“Germany needed to become the ward of the world!”

Now that’s pretty chilling, given that the wards [patients] of his psychological clinic, didn’t end up too well, right!

But it was just background in psychiatric practice that formed the basis, right, of how the world then, you know, had his narrative that Germany and the German race were guilty of atrocity, mental illness.

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Tim: Hey Joe?

Joe: Yeah? Yes sir?

Tim: I’ve got a connection issue. Can give you a call back?

Joe: Oh, sure.

Tim: Okay, thanks. We are back.

Okay, go ahead.

Joe: Okay. So I had this problem in that it was illogical. On one hand Cameron was saying he was one bringing us the understanding of the Germans as the nation committing atrocities and, on the other hand, he was committing the very atrocities he was accusing the Germans! It just made no sense!

And then I realized that it would be logical if what Cameron was doing was, in fact, part of the same operation that he was involved with when he was taking funding from MK-Ultra. Right? In other words, if he was creating basically psychological control for the organization, and he was creating the fake narratives! Just like you had the fake narratives in the counterculture.

You know you have the idea that Wasson was this individual who just was interested in mushrooms, who ends up in Mexico and, you know, find spiritual enlightenment with magic mushrooms, and then Henry Luce publishes his story. And the next thing, you know, here comes the counterculture!

You go into it a little bit and you can see the story is fake and the narrative is fake and it’s just being done to set us up! So that was the way that I thought, well if that’s the case with Cameron, who is part of this MK-Ultra system, then that would suddenly, … Then the fact that he boasts, was able to basically exterminate human beings. Because that’s it literally what he was doing!

And also accuse the German grounds of morality, would suddenly become logical. You see what I mean? In other words, now it makes sense that Cameron is simply creating a fictional narrative. His moral authority is such that he can lie, and he can exterminate human beings. And that would mean that Ewen Cameron was not a character from history that was deeply illogical, but rather he was just a lifetime actor. You know, we discussed this.

And so when I compared Cameron, I tried to look at sort of to the story that he brought up about the German atrocities. I looked for examples of the other aspects of the things that became the foundation of the German atrocity concept, right?

[Image] Charles Douglas Jackson.

Charles Douglas Jackson was born in New York City on 16th March 1902. After graduation from Princeton University in 1924, he joined the media industry. In 1931 he went to work with Henry Luce at Time Magazine. Influenced by the right-wing views of his employer, Jackson became President of the Council for Democracy.

During the Second World War Jackson served as special assistant to the Ambassador to Turkey before joining the OSS in 1943. The following year he was appointed Deputy Chief at the Psychological Warfare Division at Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force (SHAEF).

After the war, Jackson became Managing Director of Time-Life International. In 1948 Frank Wisner, who worked with Jackson in the OSS, was appointed as director of the Office of Special Projects. Soon afterwards it was renamed the Office of Policy Coordination (OPC). This became the espionage and counter-intelligence branch of the Central Intelligence Agency. See more here: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/13700-charles-douglas-jackson-and-the-zapruder-film/

You have the Nuremberg trials. You have the atrocities that were listed. And when I studied them I found an interesting thing, that this character CD Jackson [Charles Douglas Jackson] had been involved with, … He was from the OSS.

He was later, someone who worked with the CIA, and he had been the head of the OSS Psychological Warfare Department. I’m butchering the title, but he was basically very high up, and he had a relationship with Allen Dulles. And he was sort of Dulles’ eyes on the ground, in post-war Europe.

[Image] CD Jackson at Buchenwald? Source: https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t988597/

And there’s a picture which purports to be CD Jackson and he’s at Buchenwald [concentration camp]. And there you have two of the components of the narrative! Of the German atrocity narrative. And they are “shrunken heads”, two shrunken heads, and a lamp that has a human skin for the covering of the shade.

So, next to it, is this picture of CD. He’s there next to the table. People can look at those, they’re online and you can see the photograph.

Now I have seen shrunken heads Tim, because I’ve lived in South America and they are from time to time for sale in, you know, street bazaars and whatnot. And I can guarantee you that the shrunken heads that are on the table are not of prisoners from a German POW camp! They are basically, they are legitimate shrunken heads, but they’re from South America. And it’s easy to tell by the hair cut that these heads have. They are not, you know, from anyone who is inside a POW camp.

And the lamp shade has, it’s a video and you can actually see that the lampshade does not possess any tattoos, which is the claim that they were human skin which you could verify, because there were tattoos. However when the camera moves and you can see that the lampshade doesn’t seem to have any. Now, both of these things, which are well-known inside the narrative of German atrocities have disappeared!

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It’s amazing, because they would be probably, you know, some of the important historical artifacts in our history, but they have disappeared.

So the fact that Jackson was involved with them is very suspicious to me, because of who he was. He worked with Henry Luce he became the publisher of Time Life, where Gordon Wasson has the story of the magic mushrooms. CD Jackson is the individual who created the Bilderberg Society, the American branch of it, or the American participation in Bilderberg.

And then I think most importantly is he is the one who sequestered, who purchased and sequestered, the Zapruder’s JFK film, right?

So that line up is extremely curious! And it is made coherent by the fact that he was also part of Operation Mockingbird! Now this is where everything starts to clear up to my mind, because with Operation Mockingbird you are now deep into the kind of social control that the Secret Society was creating with the MK-Ultra science, right? Operation Mockingbird, pretty well vetted, you know, listeners can do their research, but it was basically taking control of the media by government intelligence for the purpose of propaganda. To creating fake narratives. And now when you look backwards and you see CD’s participation in the narrative of the atrocity, … For it to be logical it all has to be part of one system.

CD Jackson is another individual like Ewen Cameron that, you know, he had the moral authority to participate in Operation Mockingbird where the citizens are being fed false narratives for the purpose of propaganda.

He had the moral authority to, you know, basically sequester the Zapruder film when obviously, the population needed to see it. And so, when you see him involved with the beginning of the atrocities that become part of the Holocaust narrative, the way that this is logical to me Tim, is that you have, … It’s all part of the same process. That’s all just one narrative.

And then the last curious fact I’ll bring up, I’m sorry to be long-winded. But, you know we had another show we talked about Edward Bernays, and how he talked about propaganda. He talked about mind control, and we have examples of him setting up what becomes the counterculture. And incidentally he did work with Wasson, Gordon Wasson, for ten years — they were very close friends.

And so Edward Bernays, who is the weird double nephew of Sigmund Freud, he was clearly involved in what becomes the culturally debased, anti-family, anti-Catholic, anti-ethnic community. Pro-feminism, you know, feminism, or Gloria Steinem’s version of feminism, pro-drug use, and pro-single mom. I mean, in other words, and pro-pornography! Bernays particularly is important in the production of pornography. And so, you know, …

Tim: So that is the early twentieth century like with “Damaged Goods” [a play], …

[Image] The play “Damaged Goods” (click image to enlarge).

Joe: Exactly right. And he brings up Naginski [sp] who is miming masturbation on stage and he’s producing a play with Rockefeller money, mind you. At the very beginning of the twentieth century. And so, Bernays is clearly plugged into this whole process by which a narrative about, you know, what is good? Sex, drugs and rock’n’roll essentially, is being established. But now when you look for it, …

Tim: Back then, wasn’t it “drugs, sex and jazz”? [laughing]

Joe: Yeah! Exactly! Yes sir! [laughing]

Tim: Rock’n’roll hadn’t been invented yet. [laughing]

Joe: Yeah, rock’n’roll wasn’t, … Right, it was drugs, sex and, … But anyway, … Yeah that’s how far back goes. But anyway so, you know, Dave McGowan shows that there is a generational issue. And this is obvious, because we’re not looking at a, you know, a project that is, you know, MK-Ultra or the CIA. I mean, this is a vast project!

This goes back, certainly to Gyorgy Lukács, … wrecking the name!

Tim: Talked about, you know, Hungary.

Joe: At the end of World War One! Right? Where where he’s trying to, you know, produce a debased sexual education for the recently conquered Hungarian country, under the promotion of Bela Kuhn.

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And so that then becomes a Frankfurt School, which then becomes the American jewish Committee’s “Authoritarian Personality”, which then becomes the Macy Conference, which then becomes MK-Ultra. And we’ve done other shows, and we’ve shown all these connections.

So Bernays is just absolutely plugged into it, and now when you come forward one generation, what do you get? Well, you get this weird guy Murray Bernays! He’s the nephew, … Right? Again, like, one nephew from Freud, and now you have Edward’s nephew, Murray Bernays. And who is Murray Bernays?

Well, he creates the Nuremberg Trial.

The Nuremberg Trial was never really intended, … I mean, obviously to be a kind of, you know, “actual trial”! It was a “propaganda”. And Murray was in the Special Projects branch.

And so he basically designed the Nuremberg Trial. And with the idea that they would just have the impression of an actual trial, but that none of the people could really bring evidence in their defense, and then at the end of it they would be, you know, made guilty, and then you’d have this propaganda moment. So, this is, .. See, this is very clear, unfortunately.

And when you look at CD Jackson, … And incidentally one interesting thing about CD Jackson, that I found in doing research, is that Jackson’s not his real name, his real name was Jacobson, he was jewish. Now there’s some dispute about this, but the source is primary, someone who lived next to him at the Dakota Hotel. And in a book about the Dakota, that individual is questioned and he has absolutely no reason to lie about it, I mean, it’s going to be in a public document and he goes —“well, you know”, he’s talking about CD Jackson his next door neighbor and he said:

“Yeah, it’s really interesting. CD, you know, his name wasn’t Jackson, it was Jacobson, he was jewish. And his father owned something called Jacobson’s Marble”.

And now this has been scrubbed! Very mysterious. I’d like to have some citizen researchers help with this, to vet this idea, [it’s] very important to know this. Because if this is correct, and I think it is, because of how primary and clear the, you know, the documentation is. And also the fact that CD Jackson stated that his father was in the marble business. He doesn’t say he changed the name, but the fact that he was in the marble business, I’ve been able to verify. So this looks pretty clear. So that’s why when you get to basically, the Nuremberg Trial, you have a very clear picture of a narrative being created.

Now, you know, people will talk about “Holocaust denial”, which of course, is illegal in many countries. Which, you know, is sort of suspicious in and of itself. I mean, if their evidence was good why does it have to be illegal to discuss it? But it is.

But, this really isn’t something that I think, you know, it’s sort of like the historical individual that’s kind of, has been, there’s a mythology that develops around [it].

People will argue:

“Well was the individual historical or not?”

And to me, .. Just so as I can explain this clearly, it’s like, you know, the person who created the cartoon character Donald Duck had a duck that his neighbor owned, who’s name was Donald, right. Okay, now does that mean that Donald Duck the cartoon is a historical character? [Tim starts chuckling] Well, that’s a semantical issue, and you can’t answer it. And it’s like well, in some ways he you could, but the fact is that the historical Donald could not talk! He couldn’t speak English! So it’s fiction! But it’s not completely fiction. And so you have this like, with historical characters, you know, Buddha, Jesus, you know, people are always arguing:

“Well, you know, can you prove it?”

When you know, you can’t! It’s just impossible. But what you can do is understand the genre.and a cartoon is not history. Right?

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And so with the “Holocaust”, in terms of denying it, that seems to me like the position of negation of someone who’s saying, well the Buddha could not have existed, because we know that no one can live on one grain of rice, a day, for a year.

Right? Okay. Well, but wait, he could have existed, this could just be an embellishment. With the “Holocaust” you have these people try to attack those who want to understand what happened, to bring up the details, and facts that we know about these events, and try to see if they are, in fact, created in the right context.

And then they’re attacked on the grounds that:

“Well, this is ‘Holocaust denial’!”

And, so I think that is sophistry. I think that the people who want to revisit the “Holocaust”, because of what we have uncovered in terms of the government production of the counterculture, right? Are trying to determine not, whether or not, there were camps, or whether or not, there were jews in camps, or whether or not this was morally defensible. None of these things are even on the table.

The question to me is, were the events taken and placed into a fictional context, for the purpose of propaganda?

And that’s what I think, when you go through these three individuals that I’ve mentioned: Bernays, Cameron and CD Jackson.

I think that it is far more logical, I mean just clearly, you know, makes much more sense to look at these guys, and their activity, as part of a propaganda narrative. And not one that doesn’t end with the conclusion of the Nuremberg Trial, but never basically ends! One that just continues to go forward, until now we have, you know, even, and then, the last atrocity element, which is the gas chambers.

Which, when I try to do research into it, and I really have done the best I can, just makes no sense to me!

Tim: Yeah, yeah, this, it’s accepted as gospel, you know. I’m reading about MK-Ultra and they talk about the Nazis, “Paperclip Nazis” and it is treated as if MK-Ultra is some sort of virus that’s brought in, with the Nazis. As if, you know, … unable to xxx treachery, lest we bring in these Nazis to infect our, you know, our system.

And within this description they talk about the experiments, these things, which may, or may not, have happened, maybe they’re embellished as well, probably are, just like the other aspects of the so-called “Holocaust” are probably extreme of embellishments, to say the least. But they’re just, .. You’ll hear the thing about Zyklon-B, and IG Farben. And it’s almost as if people are forced to include that, lest they be accused of, you know, of being a denialist or, and having your reputation, or their careers ruined, because there really is no evidence once you look at it. Just to see, .. That IG Farben, that Zyklon-B was used, the gas chambers aren’t there. In fact, Dachau I think, CD Jackson and Hollywood directors actually constructed a fake gas-chamber, as a part of a post-war tour they’d give there, to dignitaries and senators.

Joe: Absolutely, the films ….

Tim: The films that were produced by Alfred Hitchcock and Billy Wilder, and just the footage we have of the bodies being bulldozed. A lot of those are air-raid victims, or typhus victims. And the reality is that all the film we have of the so-called “Holocaust” is from the Western camps, which even based on the official narrative, weren’t part of the “Final Solution”. That all occurred in the east, and we have no film evidence of that.

In fact the aerial photography from reconnaissance during the war, show no such activity going on. Nor are there any records, requisition records, fuel, you know, fuel requisitions, all this display??? Isn’t in the documentary, or physical evidence to support that narrative. So all we have are some horror stories, largely coming from the Russian side, which I would say isn’t a reliable source. So, there’s much there to be skeptical about this, to say the least.

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Joe: Yeah, exactly right! And, in fact, I think that we have to put it now into the context of, basically, the revelations concerning MK-Ultra, and the fact that we know that our government engages in the production of “narratives”.

I think that Gordon Wasson’s exposé, is probably the most important thing the citizens have been given, you know, I mean, … Since the Roman Empire! I mean, this is really, really important for citizens to know that!

Because there’s when you can really verify, it is both completely fake, and absolutely central to an enormous social program, you know, the counterculture! You know, …

Tim: Yes, so it reverberates today…

Joe: Yes it still reverberates today. And that of course, can now, you know, when you look at like, you know, the things that you’ve shown about the assault on the cities. How the ethnic communities, the Catholic communities in America’s cities, were then, … These communities were deliberately attacked.

Tim: Hmm, hmm.

Joe: To break them up, and to push them into the suburbs, to create the vast deracinated middle-class, right? That would then be susceptible to the now: Sex, drugs, and rock’n’roll, at this point.

Tim: Yeah, you create the vast wastelands of suburbia, where people are all going into debt, with their consumer goods. And yet they still can’t find happiness, and they find themselves on the anxiety medicine. Because kids no longer have their parishes, no longer have churches, or their ethnic lineage, they are deracinated. You’re right, they’re cut off, and now they have no roots, nothing to appeal to, nothing to refer to, and they wonder why they are unhappy.

Joe: Yeah! Well they have no … got no capacity to resist the mind control. You know, they can’t resist pornography. And pornography, I mean, like the Germans are, you know, claimed to be, sexually deranged, in doing these kinds of activities, but then when you go forward and look at what’s being promoted by the government and the counterculture.

How the government is promoting xxx in the sixties and seventies. Then you can see that the charges against the Germans, to this regard. The charges, are just like the charges that Cameron made, …

Tim: Yeah!

Joe: About them, you know, being in fact, a group that was capable of atrocities. For heaven’s sakes! When you are actually doing what you’re accusing the other individuals of being guilty of! You just don’t have the moral authority! And yet they do it time and time again!

Tim: Yes! He’s standing in the rubble of a bombed out German city, lecturing the Germans on their atrocities…

Joe: Yeah!

Tim: … And you’re asking, well who bombed the city?

Joe: Yeah! Well who fire bombed? Who deliberately targeted civilians? And then you, you know… So you see, this is the thing, and it gets back to my little story about Donald Duck. Is that at the end of the day, I think you’ll find, a basically a foundation of truth.

I am sure jews were in concentration camps.

Tim: Yeah, yeah.

Joe: I’m sure many of them were mistreated, because there would have been tremendous antagonism between German soldiers, and I don’t think that they would have been sought out for any special atrocities. I can’t find any evidence of that.

Tim: It kind of depends on where you are, because you’re mixing, … When you talk about the “Holocaust” they talk about the camps, the labor camps, which are industrial concerns, you know, IG Farben, IBM, General Motors, Standard Oil, — all involved. But then they mix in, like these police battalions on the Eastern Front, or near the front, where they’re fighting with these partisans. And you can’t mix the two, because they are two different environments. [You] can’t mix, the battlefield, you know, this raging battle, to what was going on maybe in Poland, or in parts of Germany, — [they’re] two different things. Not, .. I’m not justifying, what happened to, you know, because these Einsatzgruppen, who would go behind the lines, police battalions to clear out, under the guise of anti-partisan activity; killed a lot of jews! And they wrote about it. Now, also that was their job, this is the “anti-commissar order” that was written up. But the way the Germans saw it, the Germans saw a lot of jews as being Bolsheviks.

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So a lot of jews were going to be killed in that battle, in the carnage on the Eastern Front, that level of destruction, there was, ..

Joe: Exactly! Right, well said!

Tim: And not to mention he Soviet Union. They would carry out atrocities and blame them on the Germans! So it’s psychological warfare, it’s propaganda. Remember, the partisans would go out and they would kill German soldiers. So you’re going to have, … Germans aren’t going to be that sympathetic on the battlefield, or that discriminatory about who they kill. And if you want to know, if you want to single out the Germans for being particularly brutal in that factor, … Just look what happened in Vietnam with the Phoenix Program? The search and destroy missions and these things, …

Joe: Right!

Tim: … And multiply that by ten on the Eastern Front. Because it was a much larger war.

Joe: Yeah!

Tim: It is war! And the war itself was a crime, as you say, I mean, the war itself was a crime. And, you know, to pick out this here, as being somehow exceptional from some of the other atrocities, which is the war itself, to me, is well, it’s hypocritical! And you’re being highly selective in your, …

Joe: Well worse, it’s a fake narrative for the purpose of propaganda!

Tim: Yes! Because you’re singling out one side being particularly brutal, when just look at the, … Look at the landscape of Europe! It takes two to tango!

Joe: But, you know, Tim, what I’m seeing, is that the Germans are basically the sort of premier European people. And now you look at this false narrative that comes out of World War Two, and it starts long before any of the data, really, is coming in! I mean, the concept of the “German atrocity” were being developed in 1942 – 43! This is long before anyone, you know, has detailed information about what’s going on in the camps.

But the narrative is being established so, …

Tim: That is right! It’s being fed through, supplied through Harry Dexter White and Henry Morgenthau at the Treasury Department. Because they ran the War Refugee Board!

Joe: Right, and with Ben Hecht writing stories, you know, in Reader’s Digest, …

Tim: Yeah!

Joe: Where in 1943 he talks about six million jews at risk!

Tim: So you have a communist and a committed Zionist, creating the “Holocaust” narrative!

Joe: Right! And so, just like the gas chamber, and the shrunken heads, and the human head [skin] lampshades, the six million number is frankly demonstrably preposterous! It just is a metaphorical number, representing the jewish people.

I don’t know if you’ve ever seen any of the analysis of the use of the term, but “six-million” gets used, you know, thirty, forty times in the media, in the European media, before World War Two breaks out!

Tim: Yeah, exactly!

Joe: Representing the jewish people who are at risk from, …

Tim: They once blamed the Tsar for putting six-million at risk.

Joe: Right! Exactly! So, this is where, … But you see, you’re starting to develop a very clear understanding, because, you know, well the lampshades have disappeared, and they don’t appear in the movie to have any, you know, there’s no tattoos on them.

The human heads are just preposterous! I mean, the skin is black, and the idea that, that was, a POW from World War II, is just ridiculous!

The gas chambers make no sense! Just numerically, make no sense at all! I mean, … And also mechanically. I try to go through how they would kill all these people in these little gas chambers, and then get all the bodies out, and then have enough coal, or whatever it is, to burn them all. And then of course, then you have the question of habeas corpus! Where are all the bodies? Right?

Tim: That’s a whole lot of, a whole lot of bodies to bury, and lots of bodies to get rid of here.

Joe: Right! So, so again it’s you get to the idea, well they may have had gas chambers, people may have died in them, but they weren’t some kind of industrial genocidal machine! Right?

It’s just that, just isn’t any way that this can be true. And so you’ve got to the point where, you know, it’s like with the character Donald Duck, you now understand the genre of the story! We’re not being given history here. We are being given propaganda! And that’s my point Tim, is that we can be sure of that!

Tim: A good example is if you were a prisoner, an inmate, at one of these camps, labor camps, you probably saw a fair amount of brutality, people being treated harshly, even maybe summary executions. And that’s your perspective, you see that. All of a sudden you hear the story of the “Holocaust” and in your mind, you’ve witnessed the “Holocaust”! Although you saw something completely different. It wasn’t an attempt to annihilate an entire race, it was just the type of treatment you get in a labor camp, a slave labor camp, during a war.

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Joe: Yeah. And, you know, when I read like the Red Cross reports which are very meticulous. People can contest one way, or another, but they do exist. And they actually have a number of 270,000 for the total mortalities in the camps during World War Two. And they say that maybe forty percent of the population were jews. Then you have, you know, it is a tremendous tragedy, but it is not the unique atrocity that then becomes part of a very powerful narrative propaganda.

Tim: Well it’s like this, what if in the United States, if we had the reality of the internment camps the concentration camps for the Japanese on the West Coast in the United States. And that was a tremendous injustice, to take their property, and in fact, I think the Hyatt Hotel chain is based on stolen property. [laughing] “Friends” within the Treasury Department gave it to them. The whole jewish mobster thing. But that was an incredible injustice to those xxx hundred thousand Japanese. Now what if, on that basis, because that is what it is, okay, They were interned and they were released their civil rights were violated. They lost their property, these things. But what if from that reality this narrative was spun that three million of them were worked to death, or murdered in an attempt to annihilate the entire Japanese people. Would that be a fair, …?

Joe: Exactly!

Tim: No that wouldn’t, …

Joe: Yeah. And that’s a great analogy, because that’s what’s happened. And you see the idea of “Holocaust denier”, this is just an expression to try to dominate the debate. You know, it places the person who is trying to bring this information forward as denying that jews died in the camps.

Tim: Or bad things happened to jews.

Joe: Yeah, right! Or that there weren’t even, you know, atrocities. Right?

Tim: Or that you advocate bad things! Which is illogical. [laughing]

Joe: Yeah. What I’m suggesting is that the better approach is to try to not permit that concept to be something which defeats, you know, intellectual exploration. What I think is that really you try to put on the table, particularly for the public, … Because, you know, in the alternative media I think these ideas can be discussed pretty objectively right now.

And I think that there really is a revisionism to the “Holocaust” that just going on. Because they are somewhat bad data inside of it. Unfortunately I think people are pointing out perhaps accurately that some of this is coming from a bad place in the heart. There is, you know, legitimate anti-semitism. OK? But, that has nothing to do with the idea of, are these details capable of being analysed? I mean, we should be able to have some kind of process where we come to, do the human heads look like Europeans, you know, [laughing] shrunken head? So, that the thing is, …

Tim: It looks like it would be less exasperating, you know, we’re all adults here, can we talk about this? [laughing]

Joe: Can’t even talk about it!

So, it’s just it’s just that we’re trying to find what genre are we dealing with. Is this a legitimate history, right? Or, was this propaganda? If we are dealing with propaganda then we need to go back and look at the details and recreate the narrative. Because otherwise we are going to have a false history, and a false history leads to catastrophe, as you pointed out, you know, a number of times.

False history leads to catastrophe! We need, …

Tim: But this is why the narrator has being spun though. The narrative is being spun and promoted not only, because so much of the postwar international establishment depends upon it. Particularly the state of Israel, the reparations which are billions and billions of dollars, the power of the jewish lobby the United States. A sort of moral extortion of the entire Western world, because this collective guilt has now spread from Germans to the entire world. That’s why you have these museums everywhere.

Joe: Right, exactly!

[Image] Location of Holohoax museums in the USA (click image to enlarge).

Tim: Specifically the middle European phenomenon, we have museums all throughout the United States! You know, they expect to put a museum in Iran for some reason! [laughing]

Joe: Right. I recently gave an example where it does ill to the culture, … A false narrative is always bad! Propaganda is always evil! Right? You shouldn’t use mind control, you should be able to express what you want honestly and then people can make their own minds up.

[45:08]

It was when the Hays Code was disbanded. Now that was the Hollywood production code.

I think it was always intended to be something that would be destroyed. I think Hayes was a set up. I mean, this is another body of analysis, but the code was good as it presented itself to the public. These were great principles. But in the early sixty’s it basically was done away with.

And you have to remember that the Hays Code was put into effect as a way to combat the idea that Hollywood was a jewish debasement of European culture. Because this is really what spawned the Hays Code. Is that if you look at, … I did an interview about this and I was reading a quote of just blatant and, you know, just attacking Hollywood as a jewish plot against European culture. This was after the Fatty Arbuckle event, you know, and where you had all this pornography and there were different scandals, one scandal after another.

And so they brought out the Hays Code, and they brought the Catholics, very famously. They brought the Catholics and basically, you know, it’s people who had been involved in the production of the code, because they wanted to, … Pardon?

Tim: Joseph Brean?

Joe: Yeah. And I’m not sure he was Catholic, but the Catholic Legion of Decency was vetting it. And so the public was being said:

“Hey look! We don’t have to worry about basically jewish depravity against European culture, because you’ve got this code which the Catholics have been involved with.”

But then in the sixty’s it’s disbanded. Now why? Well, I suggested that it was an example of the power of Holocaust, because it just became politically impossible to bring up these concerns about one culture attacking another.

Tim: You couldn’t be critical of any jewish organizations, jewish dominated industries without being accused of being Adolf Hitler.

Joe: Exactly right!

Tim: Well it’s interesting, because the movie that broke the production code was Rod Steiger a so-called “Holocaust” survivor, allegedly, in the “Pawn Broker”. It was a “Holocaust” movie, and it showed the topless, …

Joe: Was that Otto Premeger?

Tim: I think it might have been, I’m not sure [about] that, I’m not sure. But I do know that [in] the movie, the “Pawn Broker“, he was a “Holocaust” survivor and basically it was a “Holocaust” movie. And dealing with it, so a rather artfully, you know, well done movie, but it had that scene that the topless prostitute from the front. And think it was Cardinal Krole, I think, of Philadelphia who was writing about it. And they were trying to explain, the director was trying to say:

“This is art, you want to see the effects.”

He says:

“No. No. Don’t give me that!”

He’s kind of a streetwise priest. Its the thin end of the wedge here. It’s ridiculous. First of all, from a standpoint of art and effect, it’s much more artful to see his face! Rod Steiger’s face, his reaction to the topless lady, not her breasts! [laughing] you just want to show bare breasts because you want pornography in movies! Don’t give me this “art” crap. Degenerates always try to pass themselves off as artists, you know, that’s an old ploy.

Joe: Right! Well that’s fascinating, because that I was unaware of that. I didn’t know that it was a “Holocaust”film. But, this makes perfect sense, very logical, because, the one that I was familiar with, you know, when the code, the code actually was assaulted a number of times. The first time I was aware of was Ottor Premeger’s film. But, immediately after that was the “Pawn Broker“.

And so the Pawn Broker really can be seen — I have some information in front of me — as the sex scene was really kind of the end of the production code.

Tim: Yeah?

Joe: And this is a very, very clear example of what happens when you have the false narrative, right?

Tim: Yeah. By the way, it’s four years later, almost four years later, network television! The one movie that’s allowed to show nudity on network television is, [pause] “Schindler’s List”! [laughing]

Joe: “Schindler’s List”! So you can see the pattern, is that you have a false narrative that basically sets up a kind of psychological structure. That, from which, the population is intellectually impotent! They can’t defend themselves, because, you know, if you want to go after the “Pawn Broker” you’re basically, now wait a second, this is promoting the horrors of the “Holocaust”.

How can you possibly say this? Even if you are ratcheting down your culture into pornography. The “Holocaust” is clearly being used as the bulwark to prevent the population from responding in the way they did in the thirties with the production of the Hays Code in the first place! So there you have it, and that’s why I think it’s so important that we try to move the debate from one of “Holocaust denial” into the question of just —“what genre is it? ”

You know:

 

“Is this propaganda, or is this history? ”

[50:47]

Because when we look at it from that, we just say:

“Okay, what was propaganda? ”

And then you go:

“Oh well, I guess the gas chambers are propaganda”.

I guess that at the end of World War Two, when you look at CD Jackson sitting there with his two shrunken heads, and his human lampshade lamp, which are fake! Right! And, you know, damn well, the guy is producing propaganda! Because this is the guy who founded the Bilderberg, who sequestered, you know, I mean, the Zapruder film, and was a member of Operation Mockingbird — I mean his whole life is just a fake! His production of fake narratives, right? That control the population.

So here he’s in just in perfect logical character, he’s doing exactly what he always does. And so, you know, that these things, you know, you can rest assured that these things are just part of this idea of producing the concept that the Germans were, en masse, engaging in atrocities.

And this is being done to create a psychological intimidation, so that the Europeans will not then resist, the coming secret society control, vis a vis, the political system.

Tim: Yeah, of course, and you alluded to it earlier, you may want to expand upon how they were specifically targeting the Germans, because they’re central to European identity.

Obviously the “war guilt” has completely, psychologically, decapitated Germans, as part of ethnic pride, or national pride for the German State, the German peoples. And you see it today, now, because it makes you unable to articulate, if you’re German, without coming across as a Nazi, any discomfort with the migration of foreigners into your country, for a good example, …

Joe: I didn’t mean, … You made such an important point. I’m sorry I interrupted.

Tim: You alluded to it earlier, …

Joe: Yeah, but, you were pointing out that with the Muslim immigration — which is completely irrational, and culturally destructive — that the Germans cannot resist it, because they will be beaten down by the people who say:

“Well this is multiculturalism and you’re promoting racism, and this is Nazism and therefore [it’ll] be like a second ‘Holocaust’!”

Back to your “Holocaust”.

Tim: I was talking to a German lady, last year about it. And she was talking about these right-wing political movements rising in Germany. And she’s a pleasant, older lady, but she’s completely, you know, the product of post-war Germany. She has no sense of, I mean, she thought it was just horrible that some people would treat immigrant people, emigrating into Germany, that way, or be opposed to it. But of course, she’s not living there, but it’s, …

Joe: Yeah, right.

Tim:… And part of that is because she somehow thinks, her people, her country, are uniquely guilty of a horrible crime. And for her to express, …

Joe: She is victimized by the false narrative. It’s like you said, that if you actually compare it to a xxx For us to even everything that is known about German atrocities in World War Two, was equaled by the Allies, and then exceeded by the Russians! Right?

So the idea that there was some kind of, you know, possibility that the Germans were uniquely deranged, you know, the stuff that Ewen Cameron accuses them of, is simply preposterous! And the poor woman, you know, to live a life victimized by that false narrative.

I mean, hopefully, we can get enough information out, that people will start standing up for themselves, and start demanding that they, … People go back and learn the real history, and learn to distinguish between the false narrative, and the propaganda. So that they can have a clear mind, you know.

[55:00]

Because, when you look at, why are they bringing the Muslims into Europe? Well, they’re doing it, this is “weaponized immigration”!

Tim: Yeah!

Joe: It’s not going on for the benefit of anyone, not even for the Muslims who are coming in, this is going to be a gladiatorial pit!

Tim: There’s a book written, [by] Kelly Greenhill, “Weapons of Mass Migration”, that talks about this as a part of statecraft, and geo-politics. I mean, .. It’s written rather coldly, like, this is what you do. [chuckling]

[Image] “Weapons of Mass Migration: Forced Displacement, Coercion, and Foreign Policy” (2016) by Kelly M. Greenhill

Joe: Well, yeah! And the thing is when you get… you have, you know, the concept of weaponization, where they want to shatter the culture, for the purpose of control! What is the purpose of control for? Well it’s to genocide! Right?

So, when you look at them promoting multiculturalism.. Well multiculturalism is terrific! Feminism, seems like, in a lot of ways, terrific! What’s wrong with this?

Well if it’s weaponized, to be used as an element that is stated to be good, but is being inserted into culture, in such a way as to produce impotent citizens that can be easily controlled, and destroyed, and attacked! Then it’s wrong!

Then the citizens have to respond against it, and this is what we’re looking at, and that’s why I think that the stuff we’ve been talking about. With reviewing the elements of the German atrocities, to see what was used as propaganda after World War Two, is really very liberating! It makes for much clearer minds.

I was looking at a video, and it showed a very emaciated POW, and they were highlighting his leg, which was just emaciated, like he hadn’t had any food and was about to die of starvation. And then it suddenly stopped, and into the scene appeared Billy Wilder!
[Tim chuckling]

And then everyone is sitting and talking and it gets re-shot. Now this is propaganda! You see. Billy Wilder was not there as a historian, he wasn’t brought there to create an accurate history. He was there, because he creates fiction! He’s a propagandist! He’s also a Free-mason, and just a bizarre character.

But this is why he is there, and that’s why, you know, when you look at, … It’s just by an amazing quirk of history, it is another Bernays, who is structuring the Nuremberg Trial! Right?

You can rest assured you’re not dealing with a process that’s attempting to find the truth; it’s a process to create propaganda! This is what the family [Bernays] does.

So we have been, you know, been basically led into a debased and a weakened condition, by a system of propaganda that it’s easy to trace all the way back to György Lukács after World War One, and even before that.

So, people just need to find the energy to do the research, to verify everything that we’ve been saying, so that they can do their own research, and get information that’s now available, and clear their minds up, Tim!

Tim: And you mention, of course, CD Jackson and his role in Mockingbird, which I think dates around 1949, which is pretty much right after the CIA was created. So that program was instituted immediately after the CIA was created. Of course, you also have Frank Wisner, who referred to his effort, his ability, to manipulate the American people, through the media, the “Mighty Wurlitzer”. You play the people like a Wurlizter organ. And this is done through the control of the media, through CIA, Mockingbird, and also through the Time Life empire, which goes back to Skull and Bones.

[Image] “The Mighty Wurlitzer: How the CIA Played America” by Hugh Wilford (2009) and Frank Wisner (right).

“In 1967 the magazine Ramparts ran an exposé revealing that the Central Intelligence Agency had been secretly funding and managing a wide range of citizen front groups intended to counter communist influence around the world. In addition to embarrassing prominent individuals caught up, wittingly or unwittingly, in the secret superpower struggle for hearts and minds, the revelations of 1967 were one of the worst operational disasters in the history of American intelligence and presaged a series of public scandals from which the CIA’s reputation has arguably never recovered.

CIA official Frank Wisner called the operation his “mighty Wurlitzer,” on which he could play any propaganda tune. In this illuminating book, Hugh Wilford provides the first comprehensive account of the clandestine relationship between the CIA and its front organizations. Using an unprecedented wealth of sources, he traces the rise and fall of America’s Cold War front network from its origins in the 1940s to its Third World expansion during the 1950s and ultimate collapse in the 1960s.”

See also: http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKwisner.htm

All goes back to the same secret society that created outfits, which created things like the CIA. Which is sort of this consummation of the sort of incestuous relationship, that these families, the financial interests, the banks, have with government, going way back in history. At least in American history at that time. Because you saw that with the Spanish-American War. National City Bank worked with the newspapers, the yellow journalists to foment that war, so they could seize the sugar fields in Cuba, and also go expand into Asia, and then work with the Japanese, … [chuckling]

Joe: Yeah!

Tim: … For a while, until they turned on the Japanese.

[60:04]

Joe: I mean you have like the first, you know, like heads of the CIA. You’ve got Donovan, Dulles, and Helms.

Well, what is their, … you know, like common theme? Well, they’re all investment banking attorneys!

Tim: Yeah.

Joe: You know, well wait a sec. This is supposed to be, you know, international intelligence organization, that we can’t, …you know, how come every single one of them, basically is a manager of money using legality. It just seems preposterous, and then, of course, Donovan is working with the head of the OSS in Europe, with setting up things like, you know, the Nuremberg trial.

And this is Mellon, right? I mean, this is like General whatever, you know. Colonel Mellon, who’s like the scion of the Mellon family! I mean, the influence of the banking families, inside of this mess, is self-evident! And just another, … Oh, it’s just another clear point, that the public needs to recognize, to understand that it is an organized society. The democracy we have is fake! Decisions were being made, based on the propaganda.

I mean, the women you talked about, who believed that the Germans had somehow uniquely committed crimes against humanity. You know, that’s an individual that can’t participate in democracy, reasonably. Because they have a false history.

Tim: Because she can’t even, … She’s so, … Her guilt is so pathological, and so internalized, that the assault on her own community, her own ethnicity, she can’t even articulate an argument, she can’t even feel it!

Joe: Yeah, that’s right! And that’s like when you see, like college kids, women, who are, you know, victims of cultural Marxism, that you want to basically, physically defend safe spaces, that, .. So they can have just these culturally destructive organizations. The whole history of how these ideas came into that person’s head, needs to be exposed to the individual. So that then they can go:

“Oh, my gosh! I have been controlled! I’m heading off a cliff, …”

Tim: Well, these are like foundational beliefs. It’s very hard when you come across something as defining as the “Holocaust” narrative, and you find that it starts to crumble under scrutiny. All of a sudden your worldview starts to crumble, and what happens is you’re not going…

Joe: What are you going to do? Well, that’s, …

Tim: Oh, I got to start, I got to get to work! Because I can’t trust these institutions that educated me, that informed me, the media! So you have two choices, you can say:

“Now this is insane, and I’m not going to hear it, and I’m just going to go back to where I think the world is, because I’ve already put so many, … I’ve invested so much time into it, and it would require me to go back and re-evaluate so much. And I don’t have time, nor have the inclination to do this. I’m not going to do this. I’d rather, … I’m much more comfortable with the moralistic fairy tale I’ve been given, and so I’m not going hear any more!”

Joe: Yeah.

Tim: So, you let your world crumble, and then you realise:

“Huh oh! Why, you can’t rely on the universities to educate you, and why am I paying for it? you can’t rely on the constitutional legal authorities to protect your Rights. You can’t rely on government. You can’t rely on the media. You can’t read the newspapers, or the, you know, the mainstream media to inform you. I have to start thinking.”

I’m all of a sudden, you’re kind of stuck in a sort of a befuddlement, because now, where do you get your information from? It becomes very confusing and bewildering. And if you’re, … like most people, you just want the media to kind of distill the news for you, provide it for you, put it in a little package, wrap it with a little bow, this is how the world works. Most people want that, because they have to go to work, and then the leisure time, either do something with their family, or they want to be entertained.

And who has the time, who has the time to hold these psychopaths accountable?

That’s the big problem, no one has the practical time to hold these psychopaths accountable!

And this is why self-government; the rule of law; democracy; is such a sham! Because no one puts the time in to hold these crooks, and psychopaths accountable!

Joe: They don’t have the time, and they don’t have the capacity and that’s why, of course, the Internet is so dangerous to the oligarchs, because:

One, the citizens can communicate with one another. As for example, us now with the people who are listening to the show. And moreover, you can get vast amounts of information very quickly. And if people start thinking clearly, then it becomes very dangerous because, you know, I think when you have someone, for example, like the individual you were talking about who is confused, [it’s] hard to reach them, even with facts, and clear analysis. But as people start to move down the path you describe, it starts out with a little bit of humility, and it’s very humbling.

[65:25]

Oh my gosh! I can’t believe this, I’ve been fooled! Very, very humbling!

I remember when I spent like a very bad couple months looking at the building seven [WTC7] collapse. And I had to do this kind of bizarre mental-shift thinking, that I’ve been dealing with the “Government” and “My Nation”, the way I have been told about it, and then suddenly I realize, wait a second, it’s completely fake!

Tim: Yeah.

Joe: And that was very difficult, and it’s gotten better though, because now there are, at that time there really wasn’t, you know, the media hadn’t really blossomed, but now, it’s just, basically it’s spreading everywhere. And so groups are becoming established, people are resisting, and the basic natural capacity of the human intellect is being unleashed!

Tim: Yeah, if you don’t believe that buildings can be hit by airplanes, and aviation fuel can cause them to collapse, free-fall, and symmetrical collapse, you may doubt, you may be skeptical, when the doctor says, your new-born baby should be given hepatitis-B shot! [laughing]

Joe: [laughs]

Tim: I find the same people who don’t doubt babies being given hepatitis-B shots, under the cover of vaccines, also don’t, … have no problem with watching these buildings collapse free-fall, and symmetrical collapse, suffering symmetrical damage.

Joe: What a great analysis! In your interview with April Bowden?

Tim: Yeah.

Joe: You cover that point, and it’s just so profound! It’s like:

“Look if they’re going to be giving new-born males vaccines against sexually transmitted disease, then the whole system is completely fake!”

Tim: Why would anyone to touch me? Get away from me! You’re a quack, a nut!

Joe: Yeah! Just get out of there! And so that’s the moment. It’s when the citizen just, … I don’t know how to bring it about, I wish I did, Tim. I wish I could find some way of expressing the research I’ve done, or the thinking that I’ve done, about these things, in a form that would help people get their light turned on! Everyone basically has to go their own path, I imagine.

Tim: Yeah, well a lot of, … I guess as I talk about these things in mixed company, if you raise questions, ask something, they act as if you think you have the answer. No, what I’m saying is, I don’t! [chuckling]

Joe: Right.

Tim: I’m just pointing out these inconsistencies, these problems. Explain this to me in the context of the official narrative we’ve been given. I’m pointing out that the narratives that we’ve been given, are false!

Joe: Right.

Tim: And half-truths are outright lies! And the best lies are actually have truths, or partial truths.

Joe: Yeah. We’re trying to investigate, to determine the “genre”. I mean, truth is something that in the absolute sense, is something that isn’t even possible, we’re just trying to determine what is the damn “genre”!

Is it propaganda? Is it mind control? Or is it history? If it’s history, there’s a very precise scrutiny that it can be placed under, and it can satisfy the criteria of analysis!

There should be no prohibition of analysis of what is history!

The fact that all these countries have created laws against, you know, questioning the “Holocaust” is an ABSOLUTE assertion that it is propaganda!

Because history never has a problem being scrutinised! Propaganda always does!

And all we’re trying to do, we say:

“Look! We’ve got all of these elements that are built into this German maniac atrocity, story-line about their behaviour in World War Two in the “Holocaust”. And all of these details seem to be ahistorical, but they all work in terms of propaganda.”

So the question is: What is the genre? And it just, .. To me it’s just self-evident! And particularly when you show all these connections, and just, I mean, CD Jackson is a “propagandist” – that’s what he does!

[69:56]

Tim: In the entire post war network news establishment…

Joe: Right!

Tim: He slithered out from Office of War Information, OSS, Walter Cronkite’s, Sarnoff, William Paley, …

Joe: Herbert Marcuse.

Tim: Herbert Marcuse, [laughing] media, entertainer… the whole thing on how we are supposed to understand the world, is seen through their lens, you know…

Joe: Yeah!

Tim:… And to take it as gospel, is ridiculous! I mean, it’s just, … Think about it for a couple seconds.

Joe: Well it’s sort of like saying:

“Well gee, I mean, Bernays created the Nuremberg Trial, so I guess I should really treat it as objective history, …”

Tim: Yeah! Well we now know that people were tortured and coerced and, …

Joe: Yeah and also, … Well wait! Doesn’t this family just create propaganda? Didn’t they invent the term?

Tim: Didn’t he write a book?

[“Propaganda”, an influential book written by Edward L. Bernays in 1928, incorporated the literature from social science and psychological manipulation into an examination of the techniques of public communication. Bernays wrote the book in response to the success of some of his earlier works such as “Crystallizing Public Opinion” (1923) and “A Public Relations Counsel” (1927). Propaganda explored the psychology behind manipulating masses and the ability to use symbolic action and propaganda to influence politics, effect social change, and lobby for gender and racial equality. Walter Lippman was Bernays’ unacknowledged American mentor and his work “The Phantom Public” greatly influenced the ideas expressed in “Propaganda” a year later. The work propelled Bernays into media historians’ view of him as the “father of public relations.”
Source: https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propagandation (book) ]

Joe: I mean, don’t they talk about how like a small group of people can control the ways that everyone understands history? Right?

So this in, and of itself, should just raise the red flag!

We’re dealing with propagandists! When they wanted to document, right, did they bring in a historian or a fictional filmmaker? I mean the people who created these videos, it’s Billy Wilder, folks!

I mean, this is the guy that created the scene with Marilyn Monroe on a street grill with her dress billowing up! This is what the guy does! He creates scenes for emotional effect, he’s not a historian!

[Image] Billy Wilder with Marilyn Monroe on the set of The Seven Year Itch.

“Marilyn Monroe mesmerized a crowd of lucky onlookers while her white dress blew suggestively above her knees—and sometimes over her head. It was 1954, and the director Billy Wilder was filming a scene of the film The Seven Year Itch on Lexington Avenue between 52nd and 53rd Street in New York City. In the script, Marilyn Monroe and co-star Tom Ewell exit a movie theater and a breeze from the subway passing below lifts Marilyn’s skirt. Instead of rushing to cover her legs, as any decent woman of that era would have, Marilyn exclaims, “Isn’t it delicious?”” Source: https://www.biography.com/news/marilyn-monroe-seven-year-itch-dress-photos

He’s not a historian! [laughing] It is not history!

Tim: It’s Steven Spielberg, he won the, … He brought us the movie about the “Holocaust”. Also brought us a movie about dinosaurs that are alive.

Joe: Yeah! That’s right! [laughing]

Tim: So, you know…

Joe: So it’s just, we have to flip the bit, you know, and just say:

“You know what? Too much propaganda! Too little history! We’re going to change direction here, and the citizens are going to, as a group, say: You know what! We want to revisit this whole thing!”

We want to go back and look at every single detail; and don’t hit us with the idea that, you know, we’re “Holocaust deniers”, we’re not! We just want to know the genre that we’re being subjected to.

Tim: Well that term wasn’t used until the seventy’s. I think Martin Gilbert wrote a book called, “The Holocaust”* and then there was the CBS mini-series “Holocaust”.

[*Sir Martin Gilbert (25 October 1936 – 3 February 2015) was a jewish-British historian and honorary Fellow of Merton College, University of Oxford. He was the author of eighty-eight books, including works on Winston Churchill, the 20th century, and Jewish history.

Author of “The Holocaust: A History of the Jews of Europe During the Second World War” (1987)]

[Image] Martin Gilbert and his 1987 book “The Holocaust“. Right — Gilbert being awarded an honorary doctorate at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Beersheba, Israel, 2011.

Joe: Yeah!

Tim: Prior to that wasn’t using the historiography of the Second World War. It wasn’t so, … centered around the “Holocaust”.

Now it is. Nazis, and jews, and the “Holocaust”. And you know, World War Two was a global conflagration and it meant different things to different people as they experienced it differently. Certainly it was different for the Americans on the Home Front than if you were in Europe, you know, than where it was being fought in Asia. It’s different if you were, … Your experience of the war was different if you were an air-raid victim in Dresden, or if you were an inmate at a concentration camp, or a labor camp, or if you’re on the, you know, a soldier at the Eastern Front. And your idea of who was good or bad differs!

I heard an account of some ethnic Georgians, I believe, during this, the 1942 campaign. The Germans, the Wehrmacht, liberated a train that was headed east to Siberia, to the gulag, and they liberated these people and saved their lives from the Russians. So their understanding of who was bad and who was good in that war is very different than maybe a jewish Pole, a Polish jew.

Joe: Yeah.

Tim: If you were an Indian, and starving to death, because of the British policies, when they were stealing all the food out of Bengal in 1943, to export it to England. And your family starved to death, because of the forced famine at the hands of the British. Your idea of who was good, and who was bad is different in that war. So it’s a very complex event, it isn’t simple.

And that should be obviously, that’s, …

Joe: Yes, that’s right. And what happens, … To me, it’s like, okay, so the question is how many of these elements have to go into dispute, or question marks. I mean the gas chambers. If you subtract that from the narrative? The lampshade? What about the human experimentation? Right? That seems to have been exactly the foundation of the MK-Ultra in experimentation, right?

And then the number of people killed in the camps, what about this the, like the Red Cross’ estimates for one hundred thousand jewish deaths?

In other words if the six-million goes away? If you start losing the details, if they start disappearing as historical elements, if they start being exposed as — well it’s just propaganda we’re trying, … How many of these things have to disappear before the “Holocaust” then, doesn’t have the psychological power, that the people who created the propaganda wanted it to have?

[75:04]

You know, how many of these elements, I mean, if we really… if people go:

“Well gee! Bernays created the Nuremberg trial. Is that something you can really trust?”

I mean, CD Jackson, the guy who set up Bilderberg; and who was, Henry Luce, Skull and Bones, who created the Gordon Wasson fake narrative to set up the “Counterculture”?

I mean, you can’t trust CD Jackson, right? And then Ewen Cameron, he’s writing these stories about the German people, as these atrocity creators, and there’s something deranged, — but wait a second, Ewen Cameron is MK-Ultra, human experimentations, that are so vicious, that it’s even hard to talk about them!

Tim: Right.

Joe: So I guess he’s gone too! Right?

Tim: Right.

Joe: Well then now, wait a second, what’s left of the propaganda?

You see, the propaganda power starts to disappear. You’re still left with the historical details, we’re not denying anything, we are simply going through, and trying to make sense of what has been asserted, and which can be, basically, put: As either false, or as a question mark.

And then looking at what’s left, to see, well how much “Political Power” does the propaganda – that tries to come from something that is closer to history – have?

Tim: Hmm, hmm.

Joe: And you see my point is that it has none!

And that’s really what people are afraid of and that’s why they’ve made these laws, you know, so people can’t study it.

Tim: Yeah.

Joe: And they try to, … they’re constantly trying to reinforce the power of the “Holocaust” with these films and stuff.

Because they know it can’t stand any real scrutiny. It’s simple! It’s clear as a bell, to me! It’s just they know it can’t, because they know that if one, or two of these details starts to collapse, and then people go:

“Well, I’m going to look at another detail.”

It doesn’t take many, for people to realize, it’s propaganda, it’s not history. And that’s why the shrunken heads, and the lampshade business, I mean, those are very valuable things, those are like the pay requisitions for MK-Ultra.

Tim: Yeah, yeah.

Joe: They are so obviously fake! And they show that there was an attempt to create propaganda, at the very day that the US arrove [arrived] at the so-called concentration camps, …

Tim: Yeah.

Joe: The very day! So they had this in mind, the propaganda has been going full-force since the very beginning!

Tim: Well to this day the camps are now, you know, the camps are now theme parks.

Joe: Yeah!

Tim: Auschwitz has a gift shop. [laughing]

Joe: It’s insane!

Tim: Merchandising! Merchandising, my boy!

But, I was talking about this very subject, “scepticism towards the official narrative of the “Holocaust”, and the problems with it”, and someone says:

“Well, I’ve been to the camps!”

Joe: [laughing]

Tim: I’ve been to a concentration camp, … Well there are camps in the United States, what does that mean? Well it doesn’t mean anything, …

Joe: Yeah!

Tim: … As it’s now established that they [the Americans at Dachau] did construct fake gas-chambers for people to tour, in the Western camps.

Joe: Sure! I mean, what we’re looking at now, is no more real than Schindler’s List!

Tim: Yeah, well it’s a movie. Well that’s how most people’s view of the world is and, …

Joe: Well, that’s what you get, … They get it from Hollywood, they get it, … Which is just based, … And now Hollywood can be exposed, as just an arm of the Secret Society. People should turn off that crap! You know, I have said over and over again on our show, that you know, just turn off the legacy media, as it’s called, “legacy media”. [chuckling]

You know, because it’s not, … It looks like a cesspool! You go:

“Gee! It’s pornographic, it’s stupid!”

It’s not a cesspool, it’s a weapon! There is clever intent, in back of it, and when you subject yourself to Schindler’s List, and to some debate about “Holocaust deniers” that’s being held on CNN, you’re just being in a kind of mental grinder, that’s just pushing you in a certain direction.

This isn’t how you’re going to get to a clear mind, you know?

You have to xxx your mind by realizing that the propaganda is in play here! And then trying to do your own research, to find out what, … which one of the elements is believable.

And how many of them have to become, either a question mark, or just patently fake, before you realize that — Gee! I’ve been suffering from the effects of propaganda, like that poor [German] lady you described.

Tim: Yeah, yeah. Well Joe, I think… anything else? I think you covered it, everything, Yeah. I think there, …

Joe: No, we’re pretty good, …we gave it a pretty good thumping! Yeah, I was happy to have this conversation. I’ve been wanting to talk about this for some time, and I’m glad I was able to talk about it, with you Tim. This is very interesting to me, and, we’ll see how people respond to this.

[80:12]

Tim: Yeah. So, so, I’ll probably be called a “Nazi”.

Joe: Me too! But we’ll try to point out well we’re not “Holocaust deniers”. [laughing]

Tim: No! I just …

Joe: Well, we’re just seekers of the truth! We do what we want to do. And I think that, you know, what, they’ll have a hard time because, it’s so easy to show how propaganda is being created through all of these different individuals, and all these different false elements that they’re putting. That the search for the question about what part of it is propaganda is so obvious and righteous!

No one, no one can stand up against that search for very long! It’s just, it’s time to happen, Tim!

Tim: Yes. So much of the propaganda, I think your analogy about Donald Duck, is valuable there, because there was a duck, named Donald, and I guess you could call him Donald Duck, but he wasn’t the Donald Duck of Disney that we’re all … not even close to that, and that’s history.

Joe: We can’t, .. We can’t, you know. They’ll say:

“Oh my God! You’re denying the camps existed! You’re denying that jews died in the camps, …

Tim: That no one died, no!

Joe: Yes, we are trying to find the genre!

Tim: Yeah.

Joe: What is the intent of the people who are bringing, … who are weaving all of these details into a story, that then becomes our narrative about history?

What was the intent of these people? What was the intent of CD Jackson? What’s the intent of Ewen Cameron? What’s the intent of Bernays?

Tim: And it could be that the use of Zyklon-B, an insecticide, was there to deal with lice, there for to knock down the typhus problem, as opposed to this idea, [laughing] it was applied to mass extermination of people!

Joe: Well you know, if you want to talk about that one aspect. Okay, fine. But I mean, well yeah…

Tim: Yeah. Where’s the evidence?

Joe: Well let’s go through the evidence. We can actually, … This is great, this is great, because this would be an empirical, … Well, is there enough, … Well first of all: Where are the bodies? Where are the bones? Where are the records of population reduction?

And why does the Red Cross have not seen any of this?

So the evidence becomes, the videos of the bodies being pushed into, I mean, is that IT?

What is that evidence of?

Tim: Yeah exactly! What is that?

Joe: It doesn’t show the violence, it doesn’t show what led to the event, it just shows a big pile of corpses. I’m sorry!

Tim: Skinny, emaciated, the sick jumble, you know. That doesn’t tell us anything! Germany is full of people like that! It’s called a “famine” — that’s one thing war creates is famine, especially when everything, … You’ve been bombed back to the Stone Age!

Joe: Yeah, and so you don’t need to have many of these elements. And that’s like with the gassing thing! And I hadn’t really done a lot of work on it, but I did some work this week trying to make some sense out of it. It’s completely absurd! I just, I just mean:

THE CASE THAT IT IS CLEAR HISTORY IS ABSURD!

Right! There just is not, CLEAR EVIDENCE, that well, we can absolutely be sure that six-million jews were put into gas, … Ah no! Sorry!

You know, where are the bones first of all? So, you know, well they were incinerated. Where? How? What rate?

Tim: With what fuel?

Joe: Yeah, and where is the fuel to do this? And so, the thing is that, like I say, what we’re dealing here is propaganda, not history!

Tim: Hmm, … Okay Joe, I’ll let you go.

Joe: Fine brother! Well thank you so much! We’ll get them next week, okay?

Tim: Next week! Take it easy. Enjoy your weekend. Bye, bye.

Joe: You too, bye!

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House of Orwell

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Bradley Smith’s Smith Report # 1

The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies

The Plum Cake