[Here’s the transcript of an audio interview by John Friend with Eric Hunt about his revisionist video making, and his latest video, “Questioning the Holocaust, Why We Believed — Part One”.
Both Friend and Hunt don’t mince their words about calling out the “Holocaust” for what it is, a gigantic pack of evil lies being foisted upon the world by the only victor, and instigator, of WW II, namely organized jewry — KATANA.]
The Realist Report
Interviews Eric Hunt
by John Friend
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Published on May 3, 2016
by John Friend
On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined by Eric Hunt, one the top revisionists in the world today. Eric has made numerous documentary films thoroughly debunking the fake “Holocaust” narrative of WWII, one of the greatest deceptions ever foisted upon humanity. In this podcast, Eric and I discuss his latest documentary project Question “The Holocaust,” including the recently released film Questioning “The Holocaust” – Why We Believed. We also address a number of other topics related to the fake “Holocaust” narrative, and how his weaponized version of history has been effectively used against the White Western world.
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Intro: You’re listening to the Realist Report. Here’s your host, John Friend.
John Friend: All right folks welcome back to another edition of the Realist Report. This is your host, John Friend. Joining me on the line today is Eric Hunt, one of the top revisionists in the world today. Eric, welcome to the program. How are you today, sir?
Eric Hunt: Hi John, I’m great. I’m happy to talk to you again.
John Friend: Yes! Excellent! I’m glad you could be here. It’s been a while since we since we last spoke. I’ve had you on the program, it’s probably been a couple, you know, at least two years. So, I guess, just to get started how are things going, how have you been?
Eric Hunt: I’ve been well. I’ve been able to do some traveling and sort of research for this video that’s been released. I was able to go to Auschwitz last summer, which was, you know, basically the highlight so far of someone who’s been researching this for, in-depth, for over a decade. So it’s been an interesting time since I’ve last spoken to you.
John Friend: Right, yeah and you’ve done a lot, you know, you’ve produced a lot of documentaries dealing with the holocaust. And I think the last time I had you on we talked specifically about the, “Treblinka Archaeology Hoax” which was a documentary you produced. And I guess just get started could you talk about some of your previous documentaries. I know you’ve made, “The Last Days of the Big Lie”. Which was the first documentary that I saw, that you produced, and that’s really a must see for anybody out there that’s interested in the subject. But you’ve also produced, you know, a couple other documentaries. So, could you maybe just sort of, you know, summarize your previous work?
Eric Hunt: Sure. The first one, first major thing I’ve done was called, “The Last Days of the Big Lie”. It was, you know, it’s sort of tough to, to be held to this high standard as if these are films and, you know, real documentaries. It’s really, these things are made on shoestring budgets. It’s just one guy. And we’re doing, I’m doing the best I can to sort of debunk a lot of these false histories. Some of these really terrible liars that are promoted to the forefront of this “Holocaust” story, if you will. So, I felt the best way to debunk this, this video, well, this film, it’s actually an Oscar award winning documentary called, “The Last Days” produced by Steven Spielberg, was to sort of make a video, documentary itself, sort of debunking the documentary.
So, since then I’ve been sort of releasing things in this sort of feature-length documentary format. Mostly to just, … I think it’s interesting for people, they sort of think they’re movies, but really with what I’m working with, I view them more as just presentations of, sort of, what I’ve discovered so far.
“The Last Days of the Big Lie” debunks, like I said, the academy award-winning documentary, “The Last Days” which features Irene Zisblatt. Who, if you’ve heard of her, you might of you might have gotten the message through that video, this is the woman who claims she repeatedly defecated and swallowed diamonds for a year and a half while in Auschwitz and on death marches. She claims Dr Mengele removed her Auschwitz tattoo.
[Image] Dr. Joseph Mengele (middle).
She claims she was selected to have her skin turned into a lampshade. She claimed she escaped from inside of a gas chamber and was thrown over an electrified barbed wire fence, over one hundred fifty feet, onto a train.
So, not only that, there’s many many other lies that this woman tells that are debunked in that film. And it’s just sort of incredible to, to realize how no major film critics, even Pulitzer Prize winning film critics like Roger Ebert, ever question that this woman was not telling the truth. And it, it’s about, just brainwashing in the public. So that’s “The Last Days of the Big Lie”.
I was just recently told it’s five year anniversary, it was apparently released on May 1st, five years ago, so that’s five years old. It’s a bit rough, but the facts are pretty interesting, pretty exciting. So if people haven’t checked that out, check that out.
Some of the other movies I’m proud of are the, “Treblinka Archaeology Hoax”. This is sort of another debugging of another documentary. This was British produced program, I believe it was called, “Treblinka, Inside Hitler’s Secret Death Camp”.
It’s about an archaeologist, Caroline Sturdy Colls, who went to Treblinka. And they filmed it like a Reality TV show, where she’s going to prove that the Holocaust deniers are wrong. That these revisionists are wrong and that there is evidence at Treblinka that 900,000 Jews were gassed, buried, dug back up and re-buried.
But, when you examine this documentary, in particular, the case is just not acceptable! For instance, if you’re on a jury and you’re you’re told to convict based on the evidence shown in this film, there’s very little, … I wouldn’t be able to convict. You know, the chief rabbi of Poland explicitly forbids this, archaeologists from digging near the alleged mass graves. So what evidence do they present? It’s a lot of smoke and mirrors. Almost literally, you could see in the presentation that they use a lot of color correction, and of course the violins to really trick people into believing in the story.
And after, that was the, “Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth”. Majdanek is a bit of a microcosm of the larger holocaust story. Originally the Soviets claimed over two million were gassed in this factory of death. But, thanks in large part to revisionists, especially Carlo Mattogno and Jürgen Graf — Graf, who published a book about Majdanek — the official death toll has been revised to 78,000 including both Jews, Poles and others. Although or some revisionist claim that is also an exaggeration. And the number of alleged gas chambers there have, has been reduced from seven down to two. So, the Majdanek gas chamber myth is sort of showing you how the story’s been revised. How they originally claimed that drying facilities for the laundry were homicidal gas chambers. And interesting, I’m pretty happy about that, but it’s, I think more people need to see that, so check it out.
And most recently “Questioning the Holocaust, Why We Believed — Part One” is out. Now, this sort of an introduction to “Holocaust” revisionism. Why there are revisionists and how the masses were tricked into believing this story of gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. As well as showing how some of this imagery of corpses, taken after camp liberations, doesn’t prove what we’re told it does.
John Friend: Exactly. Yeah, and I think that’s so important, because I think, you know, most people simply accept the official holocaust narrative, because all of the propaganda that’s associated with it, is so traumatizing and emotional. And they don’t really stop and think about, you know, the information they’re consuming. And this, your latest video kind of does a good job of explaining this all and kind of breaking this all down.
And I just wanted to mention, if you just do a Google search for any of your previous documentaries you should be able to find him on YouTube and watch them. And each one of them as you mentioned kind of deals with a different aspect of the holocaust. “The Last Days of the Big Lie” kind of, you know, exposes a lot of these alleged holocaust survivors for the total liars and just frauds that they really are. And then of course, “The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax” deals with that specific, you know, alleged death camp, and the same thing with “Majdanek”.
And this latest documentary, … So this is, just to be clear, and by the way that the web site is, questioningtheholocaust.com. And I will have a link when I post this program over to your site where you can check out your, you know, your latest documentary. Which is part one of two. And you can also send in a donation, which I encourage people do, as well to support your work. So really, you’re main goal, if I understand you correctly, with this latest project, is kind of, you know, just breaking this all down and explaining to people, how it, how it is been that we’ve been deceived. And, you know, some of the, some of the tricks that have been used against us?
Eric Hunt: Well, yeah. There’s, you know, a lot of revisionists are pretty high level advanced scholars at this point. Carlo Mattogno and Jürgen Graf, Germar Rudolf, they’ve been at this for twenty-five, thirty years or more, some of them.
[Image] Jürgen Graf, Carlo Mattogno and Germar Rudolf
So it goes, a lot of the stuff they publish goes over the heads of those who are just new to this and skeptical, sort of want to hear our story. And also, some of the people that come to this knowledge, they get a lot of the facts, a little bit wrong at the beginning. I’m guilty of this it myself. And I sort of want to put out a case that people new to this, or are sort of excited to learn about this truth, can have a pretty good case, about what we’ve discovered and stand by the facts. It’s for the beginner, but, there is stuff in there that even people who have some advanced knowledge about revisionism, will be surprised to learn, I think.
John Friend: Right. Now this is, so this, your most recently released documentary, this is Part One, there’s going to be a second part. Do you have a release date for the second part?
Eric Hunt: You know, I don’t. I’ve been at this particular thing for about a year and a half now and I sort of want to let people know I’m still here and I want to improve production values. And yes, in the past, I’ve been a little bit embarrassed to ask for donations and things like this, but this is the only way we can really continue to focus all this time, energy and money of my own, onto these productions.
For this last video I was able to travel both to Auschwitz and to the Washington DC Holocaust Memorial Museum and filmed at both places. So, if you appreciate this first part of the video, I would really appreciate some donations to help me really continue work on this, and release Part Two, hopefully before fall of this year.
[Image] The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum located in Washington DC.
John Friend: Excellent. Yeah, and I think it is very important work. I mean look at this, look at the whole holocaust industry. These jews have literally billions and billions of dollars going into this industry, promoting it, perpetuating it. You know, they’re making Hollywood films left and right, you know, to re-instill this idea of the holocaust into our minds. And it’s a gigantic, I mean it’s a gigantic scam, it’s a big financial swindle. But it’s a huge, it’s a huge industry. I mean it literally is in as an industry at this point.
Eric Hunt: Yeah, and we need an industry of our own to compete with this. A real major reason why people believe is just the power of the production values that, that they’ve been bombarded with. You know, these million dollars, Steven Spielberg directed films, you know, they have soundtracks with these violins, and the color correction that makes it look like a horror movie. And I have aimed to improve production values of my videos. They’re still pretty crude, but I am making an appeal, I think I’ve stuck by my claims that I’m trying to improve my production values, and I hope people see this and realize that we can have an industry of our own.
I was talking to Kyle Hunt, who had his film, “Hellstorm” recently screened at a film festival in a movie theater. Could you imagine if some of our films were actually, openly screened in movie theaters? What if we had control of an industry? Not necessarily the entire film industry but, we know gays have their own film industry, we know Christians have a Christian film industry. How about people who don’t think Germans are pure evil, how about that?
John Friend: Exactly, yes. And that was huge. I was really glad to see that [Kyle] Hunt was able to get his documentary, “Hellstorm” into that film festival. My goodness, that was quite an accomplishment. And frankly I’m surprised that they let him screen it. That’s kind of, … Oh I mean, I’m glad that he did but, you know, it’s kind of surprising to me. Considering how much control influence the organized jewish community has. And this really is their bread and butter. This is their whole entire power really, I would argue. At least now in a modern context is sort of centered around this fake story.
Eric Hunt: Yeah, and it’s not only that. I mean, for many years I wondered if, what I was doing was a waste of time, and I think last year, with this outright invasion of Germany, it became obvious that I was doing the right thing. These people, the German people have been abused and manipulated to hate themselves and embrace their own extermination, if you will, for over seventy years now. And by debunking a lot of the false claims about them, we are the good guys, we are doing the right thing. We need to oppose this other industry that is perpetuating this genocidal lie at this point.
John Friend: I completely agree with you, and it’s, I mean really this is, it’s such a big issue for me. I talk about this all the time, I try to highlight it as much as I can. Because it’s always in the news, you can always find a story about the fake holocaust. And I wanted to ask you, really, sort of the best way to explain all of the different issues relating to the holocaust, to kind of break it down and, you know, for an average person.
And one thing that I’ve kind of came to the conclusion is, you know, when you look at the holocaust, it really is just an extension of, you know, anti-German propaganda, going all the way back to World War One and even before World War One, right? And really it’s this this horror story that these Jews have told us, that’s become institutionalized and almost no part of the story is true.
[Image] April, 1945, the British Army approaches Belsen Concentration Camp. Vehicles pass a warning sign reading “Danger Typhus” on the outskirts of the neutral exclusion zone set in place to prevent spread of disease.
Eric Hunt: While it’s hard, because it goes back to when you were a child. When I was a child I remember, and I’m sure you also probably remember, we were shown these pictures of emaciated, skeletal human bodies being thrown into mass graves. I remember seeing the Bergen-Belsen bulldozer footage projected on a big screen at a local firehouse.
[Image] April, 1945, a partially excavated mass grave in the camp. In the background, tents provide emergency accommodation while a British Army bulldozer waits to recommence work.
[Image] April, 1945, a British Army bulldozer pushes bodies into a mass grave at Belsen. The driver of the bulldozer wears a protective handkerchief over his mouth and nose.
It was apparently the, I believe it was the History Channel, or something like this. So you were traumatized at an early age. Trauma based mind control. To believe that the Germans, that, especially that footage was essentially of the Germans meeting their quota of gassed Jews for the day. That was a job well done, right? Rather than it being a total disaster, which came about as a result of a collapse of hygiene measures and the Germans losing the war.
So, I think a large part of this new video focuses on the footage of these bodies at Bergen-Belsen, as well as the, quote Dachau death trains and Nordhaus, where the bodies we see were actually literally bombed and strafed by British airplanes, before the American filmmakers got there. So it comes down to, as a child we were all shown these horrible images. I think as David Duke points out, this is probably the first naked body we’ve seen of the other sex, and this is jarring for someone to see. You know, these dysentery and typhus victims being thrown into a grave, with a bulldozer. But it has nothing to do with gas chambers disguised as shower rooms.
It’s not even that surprising when you look at the history of warfare and typhus, which is called camp fever, prison fever, and just the history of Europe as far as typhus epidemics. So that, as well as the various books we were forced to read as children, from the diary of Anne Frank, which has recently been approved, been admitted to have been co-written by her father, to Elie Wiesel’s “Night”, which includes a total fiction about dump trucks full of babies being dumped into flaming pits of fire at the entrance of Birkenau. Which is total nonsense.
John Friend: See and that’s what I mean by, it’s literally a horror story that these jews have created and you know, it’s a fictional story, but they’ve just institutionalized it. And people actually believe this crap!
Eric Hunt: Yeah. It’s literal hell imagery, of demonization of Germans as if they have horns. We’ve seen the movie, “Hellboy”. He was made by the Nazis. He’s the literal walking demon and of course it’s down to video games now. You’ve got the “Castle Wolfenstein” games where you’re supposed to kill a German demon, demonic Germans and all this. So it’s your entire life you’ve been bombarded to hate Germans and essentially worship jews, in various ways.
John Friend: That’s right. Well, and I think you’re spot on. I mean, you know, most people, and, you know, I’ve, I have pretty extensive experience trying to talk to people, you know, just average people about the subject, because it’s, you know, sort of what I do, you know. I interview people and talk about the holocaust and jewish power. And, you know, other issues. And, you know, most people really don’t know anything about the holocaust or even World War Two. I mean they just know that Hitler was evil, they know that the Germans were evil. And they know that millions of Jews died. But they couldn’t really tell you how, I mean, you know, beside for maybe, you know, mentioning the gas chambers or whatever.
But they don’t know any of the details, and really they’ve been, as you said, traumatized by this imagery and by this emotional testimony. But they don’t know any of the details. None of these photographs are ever put in context. None of this information, you know, the nature of the camps has never explained, what was going on at the time, you know, the circumstances leading up to the allies taking over some of these camps. None of this is ever explained and these people have no idea about any of it.
Eric Hunt: Yeah they probably can’t name, you know, many camps other than Auschwitz, maybe Dachau. They just assume that all these experts that they’ve seen on the television wouldn’t lie to them, I mean, Steven Spielberg. In many ways they just are suckers, they are impressed by the production values and they trust these professional experts to do their research for them. But, in many ways this video I put out recently is for them. I show Oprah Winfrey, who had Elie Wiesel on, and of course at the beginning of the video they got to show this is footage of these bodies. And I debunk them almost frame by frame. So, basically these people saw the bodies, like I said, as children, and that’s all! That’s it! That’s all they need to see is these horrible images of bodies, and that’s it.
[Image] Oprah Winfrey and Elie Wiesel.
John Friend: That’s right.
Eric Hunt: You know, it’s, a lot of revisionists you could say they, over, and it’s sort of like I said they’ve been in this many years so they were more interested in more advanced aspects of this thing. But it needs to be simplified as much as possible to try to get people to understand. That’s why I have, sort of focused on this, gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. And that does, in itself, doesn’t make much sense that, because sometimes we were told the gas came out of the shower heads, or all this other stuff. It just doesn’t sound like something the Germans would do, these brilliant engineers.
John Friend: It really is a ludicrous story, when you stop and think about it. It’s just so ridiculous that people would just blindly accept this.
Eric Hunt: It sounds like a three little pigs, story of the big bad wolf, or like a Looney Tunes episode with the Wiley Coyote tricking them into going into a shower room and then dropping insecticide on them, it doesn’t add up. The Germans had specially designed equipment, as I point out in this video. The manufacture of Zyklon B, Dagesh, had specially designed equipment.
[Image] A can of Zyklon B pellets.
When you look at it today I’m still sort of surprised how, how complicated and brilliant it was. It was able to open an entire, in the clothing fumigation rooms, the clothing fumigation squads would put an entire can of Zyklon B into the holder, which had a can opener. Which would open the can and drop the pellets in. Hot air would be blown through a wire basket, which the pellets dropped into and circulated throughout the entire chamber.
[Image] A Dagesh fumigation machine. A can of Zyklon B would be inserted at the top (indicated by arrow).
But, you know, wow that sounds like a great design to use if you’re trying to gas roomfuls of people, but, we’re told that didn’t happen. We’re told that they just threw these Zyklon B pellets through holes in the wall or through the ceiling and just waited. Doesn’t make a lot of sense.
John Friend: Right. Well, one of the things that I try to do is, when I’m talking to just average people, is really break down the three main premises of the official holocaust narrative.
And I think the three main ones are that: Number one, Hitler and the Nazis designed a systematic plan to murder European jewry. Number two they did so largely utilizing homicidal gas chambers. And then number three, six million Jews were eventually murdered, during the course of the so-called “holocaust“.
And if you break these three basic premises down, you can easily refute each one, if you sort of just have a general understanding of what was going on at the time.
Eric Hunt: Yeah, yeah, I do that. Yeah, I repeat those three major things. It’s sort of the mantra of revisionists. It’s been used for many years to try, you know, because a lot of people did, you know, because of these liars like, Wiesel and Lipstadt, they want to claim that, quote holocaust deniers, deny that camps even existed. Which is absolutely absurd, because they still exist today, of course. So, people who have been turned against revisionism have been told total lies about what we believe which do sound absolutely crazy, you know. They are told that, …
[Image] Deborah Lipstadt and Elie Wiesel
John Friend: Yeah. Well, I mean we would just dispute the nature of the camps and the purpose of the camps, right? That’s really what a boils down to.
Eric Hunt: Well, yeah. I mean, it’s just so, … So that’s why these people need to know those three main things, that no we don’t deny that there were these camps. As a matter of fact America had concentration camps for the Japanese. This is sort of how warfare was conducted at this time. I mean if you want to bring up a modern example of this, a lot of what Trump is saying was known, as far as, you know, not letting in Muslims who want to commit terrorism against Americans. This was common sense what leaders did back in the thirty’s and forty’s and etc.
So, the victims of the Boston Marathon [bombing] would still be alive today, if they practiced essentially what was known before the, quote holocaust. Which is, you know, you gotta sort of contain people that might want to act as partisans and kill your own people. But that might be a diversion.
[Image] Boston Marathon “victim” being wheeled away. The chances of him still being alive after having both legs blown off is slim, due to massive blood loss. The fact that he’s still conscious while sitting up in a wheelchair, is not credible (besides the negligent treatment he’s receiving here). This looks staged, but that’s another story for another day.
John Friend: Right.
Eric Hunt: But a, …
John Friend: Probably a good idea to isolate the people who are openly declaring war against you, right? I mean the Jews did that, the Jews openly declared war, an economic war against the Germans back in 1933.
Eric Hunt: Well, not only that, they were involved in partisan activity. Obviously funding Marxist groups that were committing violent acts against German soldiers at the time. They were blowing up train tracks, killing Germans. They were involved, far more than Japanese Americans, in aiding the murder of Germans.
John Friend: They were murdering German diplomatic officials as well. That was a huge thing going on at the time.
Eric Hunt: Yes. So you don’t have to really say this, you don’t have to necessarily justify any of this. It’s just putting into historical context that both sides of the war put people into concentration camps that may have possibly helped killing citizens of their own country. Which they, the leaders usually put them first, back in the day, but after the holocaust everything, everything changes, after this, quote holocaust, you know.
So now, Germans have to be invaded by millions of Syrians, even though, they could just walk into Israel, if they if they are in such danger, right? Rather than go across the sea all the way to Germany.
[Image – click to enlarge] Map of the camps under Western Allies versus Soviet Union control.
John Friend: See, and that’s why I think debunking and exposing the fake holocaust is so important, because we still see it being used as a weapon, against not only Germany, but the entire idea to our Western world, anyways.
Eric Hunt: Absolutely! You know, there was a recent article I saw that, this really rabid Zionist is writing that The New York Times suppressed the holocaust story and now there’s a there’s an effort underway to find out why local American newspapers didn’t write anything about the holocaust. And essentially this is a way to blame Americans for not doing enough, soon enough, to stop the holocaust. So, …
John Friend: Yeah, I saw that Alan Dershowitz was out there making basically the same argument. You might even be referring to him.
Eric Hunt: Yeah.
John Friend: Yeah. And again, they literally, the jews, literally blame the entire White race for the holocaust. I mean there’re quotes to that effect from multiple jewish leaders.
Eric Hunt: Absolutely! And, you know, when I was young and I’m in school, my grandfather was a mechanic in the American, U.S. Army’s paratrooper division and, you know, shouldn’t I be thanked? But, I mean, my family’s sacrifice, my father, my grandfather could’ve died somehow, quote, you know, liberating France and further. Shouldn’t I be thanked? I had nothing to do with this, my family had nothing to do with this. We tried to fight the good fight, right? But instead we are guilted with this as if we had something to do with it if we had blue eyes. Which is, it goes to another level.
John Friend: Exactly. Well I wanted to ask you, what are some of the best sources, regarding the holocaust? What are some of the best books that you could maybe point to?
Eric Hunt: Well, check out “holocausthandbooks.com”. I actually have a new, I wrote an article that’s going to be featured in a book that just got released. It’s called, “Curated Lies” and it’s Carlo Mattogno’s book, and it’s really great. For instance, so the, the curators of the Auschwitz museum recently put out a book claiming to find these original German documents, which, you know, they read the tea leaves and they claim this is proof of the extermination program using gas chambers, right? But Carlo Mattogno and, you know, just breaks it down and makes fools of these people.
[Image] “Curated Lies — The Auschwitz Museum’s Misrepresentations, Distortions and Deceptions”
For instance they mis-translate a German word, I believe it’s, “Brennstellen”. And they claim this means there were nineteen burning pits at Auschwitz, that is referenced in this document. Well, Mattogno points out that they deliberately mis-translated this word, and it refers to nineteen “electrical sockets” at the power plant. So, this is just absolutely, when you consider people calling this a hoax, can it really be that simple that there’s deliberate mistranslations of words like this? And, well, yeah it is.
So, I would like people to check out that book, it’s called, “Curated Lies”. You can get it on Amazon and also holocausthandbooks.com. They’ve got a lot of free books you could download there in PDF, in Kindle form. You know, there’s a lot of good books. I think everyone should should read, “The Hoax of the Twentieth Century” by Dr Arthur Butz. Also, “Dissecting the Holocaust” by Germar Rudolph. These are good books if you’re first getting into this to check out for some good summer beach reading!
John Friend: Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly! Well, you see that’s the thing that’s so amazing to me, is that there really are dozens and dozens of books that have been written by very serious and scholarly individuals who have thoroughly debunked virtually every single aspect of the official holocaust narrative. It really has been conclusively demonstrated at this point that this story just is not true at all!
Eric Hunt: You know, it’s, you know, sometimes, as has been said before, sometimes revisionist, even including myself, sometimes we doubt and waver, you know, whether what we’re doing is right. Maybe we’re wrong, but there needs to be some people holding the other side accountable, otherwise they can just quote total lies, like this, that nineteen electrical sockets somehow become nineteen burning pits of fire, where cremations of gassed Jews were going on.
So, why should we apologize for holding these people accountable and why, especially when we could point out what we’re doing is right and true?
John Friend: Exactly yeah. Well and it’s not only that, it’s really a matter of free speech, and free expression, and freedom of historical inquiry, right? We should be able to investigate any aspect of our history, without any consequences, right? This is one of the most taboo subjects in the Western world today, and it’s just wrong we’re not allowed to question it or do serious research into it.
Eric Hunt: Yeah. I think, you know, was one of the, you know, when I was young I read “1984”, a few times. So, when we’re told, “Who controls the past, controls the future” and all this other propaganda, it really, you have to really be looking at this Holocaust story as an Orwellian tool against the world.
John Friend: It certainly is. Yes, that’s exactly what it is. And I mean people, this is got to be the most taboo subject. That the holocaust and Hitler and some of these racial issues, they’re all kind of tied together, right?
Eric Hunt: Yeah.
John Friend: You know, it’s like the most, I mean, you bring it up to people and they’re like, “Whoa this guy’s crazy! He’s a Nazi!” And that’s why I think it’s important to debunk all this stuff because it’s just not true. And it’s really holding the entire world back at this point.
Eric Hunt: Well, yeah. I mean, I think, you talk about progress and things like this. There is, I think there’s been a real stagnation in just intellectual progress since the, quote holocaust. I think, one second I’m trying to, …
John Friend: It’s all good. I think you’re right! I mean, I think it really has retarded historical inquiry and scholarship and everything else. It’s degraded everything.
Eric Hunt: Well, I know you mentioned race, which is a real controversial subject. So, essentially the people in control have enacted, “race denial”. They are forcing others to become race deniers. Deny that the most obvious thing to anyone, the difference between black and White, is not true. And certainly that’s one of the things that got my attention when I was first becoming aware of revisionism and things like this. It was obvious there were racial differences, but we were told we were evil if we ever even think of that! And of course that’s connected to the holocaust and supposed theories that the Nazis had. So since, since the holocaust we can’t show that race is the real thing and not a social concept, construct.
John Friend: Right. Well, and that’s what I mean. I mean the fake holocaust story is tied into so many other aspects of what’s going on today. That this war against the White race – and I think that is exactly what’s going on – is fundamentally tied into this fake story.
And one question I had for you. After researching the holocaust so extensively, what are your views of Hitler now and National Socialist Germany, generally? I mean if you come to look at him. Have you come to look at Hitler and Germany in a totally different light now? Because most people just assume they were these evil monsters, basically.
Eric Hunt: You know. I don’t think I’ve really changed much over the years. I really can’t support a lot of the militarism of Hitler. Of course, I think the anti-Slavic stuff was, seems nonsensical just when you consider the threats that are faced by Europeans today. That there would be hatred against Poles, for instance, which you can hardly distinguish them from Germans.
So I am not really the biggest Hitler promoter, but I do view him as an important figure and philosopher and I’m not afraid to quote him, for instance, about what he says about the “big lie”. And a lot of people thought the “big lie technique” was something that Hitler and Geobbels used to trick the German masses. But in reality, he’s pointing out that Jews are the masters of the “big lie”. And Dr Arthur Butz pointed out that in this he basically prophesied the Holocaust. This big lie that we know of today.
John Friend: Exactly! Yeah. It’s amazing reading that quote and that’s in Mein Kampf. I’ve read that quote many times on various radio programs and I’ve quoted it in different writings and blog posts that I’ve done. And I mean, it really is prophetic, the way it’s really a precise analysis of how the jews use the “big lie technique” to deceive the masses and to advance their agenda. He absolutely nailed it!
Eric Hunt: Well, I think he even pointed out that he wasn’t even the first to point this out! Martin Luther and Schopenhauer have pointed this out before him.
John Friend: Right. Well, I’m wondering, do you consider yourself a, sort of like, a White nationalist nowadays, or just like a racial realist? How would you describe your racial views?
Eric Hunt: You know, when I was in high school I was in this club called the International Society and we learned about different people’s cultures. Actually as part of this club we went to the Holocaust Museum in DC. But anyway, I think all people, … I prefer culturalism to multiculturalism. Multiculturalism, it’s pretty obvious at this point, it’s used as the first step in a genocide against Europeans. So, I believe European people have a right to their own culture and heritage and genetics.
John Friend: Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with you. I mean, I respect other cultures and want to learn about other cultures and visit other cultures, you know. I don’t see a problem with that, but you can see the agenda behind multiculturalism. And massive immigration, for example, these are all agendas that have always been promoted by the organized jewish community, in their efforts to undermine and pervert and ultimately destroy traditional Western countries. And that’s exactly what’s going on today.
Eric Hunt: While in Israel they build a wall around the entire country and claim it’s the jewish homeland and they apparently even sterilized African immigrants! It’s a, quote some people say it’s a double standard but, it’s not at all. It’s their strategy to dominate.
John Friend: Right, it is. It’s the hypocrisy is so incredible, so amazing. And really so blatantly in your face, anymore. I don’t understand how people can’t see it, you know.
Eric Hunt: Yeah it’s been, I have, I’ve known this, I’ve known something was wrong, very, very, for many, very many years. So it’s sort of surprising that there’s still people who haven’t figured what’s up. But I think there’s signs that people are waking up and I think in many ways 2015, especially with these terrorist attacks and the rise of these, quote, far right parties, will be known as a turning point, if European people are able to regain control of their own destiny.
John Friend: Yes I agree. And that kind of leads into another question I had for you. Do you view, revisionism, holocaust revisionism, and just telling the truth about World War Two and Hitler and National Socialism, as key to White liberation, and to this struggle to maintain the White race?
Eric Hunt: You know there’s, there’s people within this, with two different strategies. One of them thinks we can sidestep the “Holocaust” issue and forge ahead. I’m not necessarily a promoter of that idea, but I wish them luck.
But, I think it is key that we certainly don’t allow, whatever did happen during this time period, to allow us to essentially go extinct, to be exterminated, through the, the social engineering in motion to make us hated minorities in the countries as we founded. And eventually we see the other populations being turned against us and incited against us to commit violence by these jewish media owners.
John Friend: That’s right, yeah. And I don’t think that it can be avoided. I think we have to tell the truth about this subject! Not only just for the integrity of our society, but also because it is used as a weapon against the White race and against White interests.
And see, if you think about it, the holocaust – and there’s public opinion polls that have been done – the strongest aspect of jewish identity is this fake holocaust story. That this is how Jews identify. This is what resonates with them.
And so the holocaust narrative is used to advance jewish interests. It’s used as a way to strengthen jewish identity. And of course we talked about the whole industry that surrounds it, the financial benefits that come with it, the sympathy racket. So it’s used to strengthen jewish identity and to strengthen jewish interests, while demonizing, and ultimately rendering illegitimate White interests and White identity itself.
Eric Hunt: Yet not only that, just even the concept of people continuing to be White at all. You know, we see blond hair and blue eyes demonized, everywhere. And the concept of, you know, as we see the progression from, you know, gay marriage to, now it’s Transgender bathrooms.
There’s talk about pedophilia normalisation. The same sort of progression is happening against Whites and White interests. Now, you’ll be considered racist if you don’t want to, if you want to have White children, for instance.
John Friend: I know, it’s so absurd. And the media will portray anybody who’s pro-White as somehow a Nazi who wants to murder Jews! I mean, that’s how ridiculous it is. And that’s how truly weaponized this narrative has been.
Eric Hunt: You know, I think, going back to some of these last few questions. It’s important to understand the origins of why these Nazis supposedly, not supposedly, but why they hated jews. You know, at the United States Holocaust Museum, which I was there this last March filming for a new video, they have a kid’s exhibit.
[Image] Remember the Children: Daniel’s Story is the Museum’s primary exhibition program for young people ages 8 and older. The exhibition tells the story of one family’s experiences during the “Holocaust” from the perspective of a boy growing up in National Socialist Germany between 1933 and 1945.
And of course, they’re told in this kid’s exhibit that they were hated just because they look different. But, that’s not true at all! It’s their behavior, it’s their actions and it’s their subversion, demoralization and theft. It’s various actions that causes people all over the world to have expelled them. What is it over one hundred twenty times now, from their countries?
John Friend: Yeah, it’s at least at one hundred and nine, that I know of. Or that’s often cited, yeah. I mean it’s literally over one hundred times these people have been in expelled because of their actions, right!
And that’s interesting that you brought up your experience at the Holocaust Memorial Museum. I actually went there last fall and I took a bunch of photographs and walked around, and would you believe man, I walked in there, I walked up there to get in line, and of course there’s all these school kids out there lined up, hundreds of school kids.
And the line was so long that they took a group of us to the back of the building to get in. And right when we walked in there’s this, quote unquote, “holocaust survivor” sitting at this table. And it’s got a sign on the table that says, “Donations”. You had to pay this guy to talk to him! [laughter from Eric] I mean, it’s such a racket. It’s so disgusting and people fall for this crap!
Eric Hunt: You know, the weirdest thing, was one of those survivors, supposedly, that’s what they’re called, when I got there I was joking. I went with Germar Rudolf, he’s going to be hosting the video, and I was joking to him because I went as a school kid myself, twice with two different clubs, and I think, … No I went with the boy scouts one time and then, like I said, the International Society. So, I had a vague remembrance, so I was joking with him that I think it’s pretty vague and in the museum, you know, they keep it dark and sort of spooky, they don’t get into really, … I don’t think, I don’t know if we’ll have anything to really debunk, you know. I said, “I don’t think they have any gas elevators” or anything ridiculous like that. But sure enough, when you enter there, this survivor gives you cards, fake identification cards of literally fictional people that you’re supposed to assume the identity of.
[Image – click to enlarge] Identification Card, United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Washington DC.
From the “Education” Section of the USHMM website: “Designed as small booklets to be carried through the exhibition, the cards help visitors to personalize the historical events of the time. (…) The Museum has developed nearly 600 identification cards. Approximately half of them are about Holocaust survivors. These cards describe the experiences of those who hid or were rescued, as well as those who survived internment in ghettos and camps. The other half represent the experiences of people who died. (…) To create the identification cards, a team of five Museum staff members interviewed 130 survivors of the Holocaust. The survivors described their own experiences as well as those of relatives who died during the Holocaust. The identification cards were developed from those interviews and from other oral histories and written memoirs. Each identification card has four sections. The first section provides a biographical sketch of the person. The second describes the individual’s experiences from 1933 to 1939, while the third describes events during the war years. The final section describes the fate of the individual and explains the circumstances – to the extent that they are known – in which the individual either died or survived”.
And they put you on this elevator. Now this elevator looks literally like something from Disney World, Tower of Terror! It’s deliberately made to look like it’s decaying and rusted and falling apart. It looks like Hollywood special effect. So you’re put on this bizarre, decrepit elevator, it’s like a Holocaust elevator. And they bring you up to the top floor and they’re showing you, like I said these bodies of the liberation. So, yeah, we went into a gas elevator essentially.
John Friend: Yeah, I know exactly what you’re talking about. What was your general thoughts on the museum?
Eric Hunt: Well, it was, … I went there when I was sort of in post production, you could say, on this latest video so, I was somewhat happy to see a lot of the issues and points I brought up, to to be reflected in the museum itself. Because, I vaguely sort of know that, … Why do Americans believe? We believe because we saw these terrible images of bodies. So, that’s the first thing you see when you get off the elevator. There is, you know, the camps, Western liberated camps, which today are not even claimed to have had homicidal gas chambers. In fact, a lot of these camps are overcrowded because, a lot of these people who were in Auschwitz, tens of thousands of them, who weren’t gassed, were crammed into these Western liberated camps as they were fleeing the Soviets. So, …
John Friend: They were fleeing the Soviets, not the Germans! That’s the amazing part.
Eric Hunt: A lot of them chose to, …
John Friend: A lot of them chose to, … Exactly, yeah. That throws a major wrench in this whole idea that the Germans wanted to murder all these people. And I mean, of course, just the fact that they had hospitals and they were providing sanitary living conditions, and food, and whatnot, to these people. I mean, that totally debunks the idea that they wanted to murder them all.
Eric Hunt: Yeah, just like how did any survive? how did they even get to this the last stage where they’re there in these camps at the, after, like I said, after going through Auschwitz? It doesn’t add up.
John Friend: Right. Well, one thing that I really noticed about the museum was, of course, it’s very emotional. And it all plays on our emotions, the whole, almost every single exhibit in the entire thing. It’s all a big “Feel sorry for the jews”. That the poor innocent Jews, they didn’t do anything! They’ve sort of taught all these blacks and all these Mexicans that of course they didn’t do anything either. They are always innocent, and it’s always the evil White man at fault.
But that’s really how the whole museum sort of operates. It’s feel sorry for the jews. They they are persecuted by these evil Germans. And there’s no objectivity or critical thought put in any of it.
Eric Hunt: You know, something interesting that, right after we got off the elevator, Germar pointed out, there’s a picture of some Germans, I think they looked like they might have been Brown Shirts. But they had signs that said, “Stop Jewish Atrocity Propaganda”. And I think this is, this is well before any of the, quote holocaust. There are these stories that the Germans were doing these bizarre things. So, … Wow! That’s a story in itself.
And of course there’s nothing about the fire bombing of German civilians, totally innocent. But, you know, it was really surprising to me, I mean what Germar said, is that it’s basically a totally one-sided view of the entire war. It’s obviously jewish supremacists, as if only their lives matter.
But, what really surprised me was that I thought when I went there as a kid that there would be something like, “Rah, rah! America, you saved us! Thank you! We’re so appreciative!” but, I didn’t see any of that. There’s no, there’s no thanks for the Americans who risked their lives to liberate these camps of jews. It’s really like you said, it’s against the entire European people. All blame is on them.
John Friend: It is, yeah. Well there’s not only no thanks to us, there’s:
“You didn’t do enough, you didn’t, you guys didn’t intervene fast enough!” you know.
Eric Hunt: Yup.
John Friend: These people have a lot of nerve, man! That’s for sure.
Eric Hunt: Chutzpah!
John Friend: Well, yeah, exactly! You know, I wanted to bring up a couple recent news items that I came across just earlier this morning and over the course of the past couple days. Just to demonstrate that literally this holocaust narrative is on display every single day. It’s being used to advance jewish interests and to demonize White people and to exploit White people.
Here’s an article from the Jewish Daily Forward. And many people know about this, they’re still prosecuting and arresting Germans who worked at Auschwitz, or some of these other camps. Here’s the headline:
“Ninety four year old Auschwitz guard apologizes to victims in court”.
This poor guy was brought before court and charged with accessory to murder. I think it was 170,000 people. He worked at Auschwitz for a little bit. And they’re arresting this guy and he’s ninety four years old! I mean it’s just ridiculous!
Eric Hunt: Well, it’s sick. It’s really sick. I think Ursula Haverbeck protested, maybe at that man’s [trial] but they already sentenced her to ten months in jail, but she’s appealing. She still has the courage to protest.
[Image] Ursula Haverbeck has been sentenced (Nov 11, 2015) to 10 month’s imprisonment by the Hamburg District Court “for doubting that people were ‘exterminated’ by ‘gassing’ in the Nazi concentration camp in Auschwitz.” More accurately, she is being punished for expressing this view in public.
She’s eighty seven years old, I believe. And she’s protesting this. And apparently, I believe, that ninety three or four year old man was a doctor in the Auschwitz I main camp. So he didn’t even see anything that was supposedly happening in Birkenau, which is where all the massive amount of gassing was [allegedly] happening. So, this is a doctor, that probably was used to save the lives of Germans [jews], had nothing to do with what is claimed, whatsoever, and probably wouldn’t have known about it, if it were happening.
John Friend: Exactly, yeah. Well, and that’s also what’s really ironic about the whole Zyklon B narrative. Because, correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t that used to actually fumigate the clothing and the bedding of these inmates and to prevent typhus and other diseases from spreading. So in essence, it was used to save jewish lives, not kill them.
Eric Hunt: Yes. It was used to kill deadly typhus carrying lice which during wartime especially it’s a particularly dangerous, especially in camps and prisons. Lot of filthy refugees can easily spread, cause an epidemic, which has occurred during World War I and throughout European history. So, Germans had this insecticide which is aiming to stem the scenes that we actually have seen of Bergen-Belsen. The use of Zyklon B was actually to save, save the lives of, not only the Jews, but also their guards. They didn’t want these deadly typhus carrying lice to be all throughout these camps system. So it was used also on barracks. It was life saving.
John Friend: Right, exactly. And also there were orders from the German government that if anybody, if any German official mistreated any of the inmates they would be punished. You know, they had very strict rules and regulations in place to make sure that these people were treated properly and humanely.
Eric Hunt: Well, you know, there were reprisals and things like this, especially on the Eastern Front, but, I think you’re referring to, I believe it’s an order by Himmler himself.
John Friend: Right.
Eric Hunt: Because he had heard of some of the wrong doings, I believe in the Buchenwald camp, Judge Konrad Morgan prosecuted Commandant Koch for some of the wrong doings, I believe murder of prisoners. So there was a system in the camps to prevent this wanton bloodshed that we’re told happened at these camps.
[Image] Karl-Otto Koch was commander of a succession of concentration camps; Ilse entered the system when she became a guard/secretary at Sachsenhausen Camp in 1936. Otto commanded the camp at the time.
Otto and Ilse were subsequently investigated for embezzlement and murder conducted while Otto was Commandant of Buchenwald Concentration Camp. Otto had, apparently, drawn attention to himself by murdering SS medical personnel (who had examined him for suspected venereal disease). Ilse was discharged due to lack of evidence, but Otto was convicted in trial before SS judge Konrad Morgen. Koch was executed by firing squad on 5 April 1945, one week before American allied troops arrived to liberate the camp.
John Friend: I know man. It’s incredible how literally it is totally opposite the official narrative is from reality. I mean, like it’s exactly one hundred percent opposite of what we’ve been told. It’s just amazing!
I have two other articles I just want to mention here, really briefly. And these deal with these alleged holocaust survivors, which again I saw at the Holocaust Memorial Museum out in DC. And I’ve seen some of these people in classrooms actually. They come in and they literally traumatize these young kids. And junior high, for example, and even in high school. And this is an article that appeared in The Times of Israel, just the other day, just yesterday. And it says here:
“When teacher Mary Beth Donovan prepared her students to read Anne Frank’s diary, ten years ago, she screened a selection of the famous newsreel clips shot during the liberation of Nazi camps in 1945.”
And again those newsreel clips were very traumatizing and they showed all these horrific images. And article goes on to say here:
“Astoundingly, after watching the films, some of Donovan’s students began referring to the genocide and Anne Frank as fake events, that had not occurred. To fight the denial in her classroom, Donovan investigated local survivors who could speak with students about the genocide. She found several articles about Boston area survivor, Israel Izzy Arbiter, the former head of New England’s dwindling Survivor Association. The ninety one year old activist has addressed hundreds of groups through the years, from Boston to Berlin, and seemed a strong choice to convince Donovan students of the Shoah’s veracity.”
[Image] The New England Holocaust Memorial on May 1, 2016
So again, these people are trotted into these classrooms, and they’re literally brainwashing these kids with this ridiculous propaganda.
Eric Hunt: Well, it’s just an oxymoron, you know, what you’re saying that, these people weren’t killed, here’s someone who wasn’t killed, to tell you about it.
John Friend: Exactly! I know. Yeah. The Germans wanted to murder all the jews, but here’s someone who miraculously survived. And one thing I notice is if you listen to these people, they always say, it’s always like the same story, right? They always the only survivor of their entire family, or more maybe like one of their brothers survives or something, but they always say that their whole family was murdered. They were all wiped out and they have all these very vague descriptions of what happened. There’s no concrete details. It’s just amazing.
Eric Hunt: Yeah. And going back to that previous thing about the newsreels. It’s pretty surprising, there was a point I wanted to make in the movie, I just didn’t have time to but, there’s some footage of children at Bergen-Belsen liberated in. One of the children looks very much like Anne Frank and the real message is that the difference between this child, this young girl and Anne Frank, is that Anne Frank succumbed to typhus just days before. Bergen-Belsen was liberated. That’s all! Anne Frank was transited through Auschwitz, was never gassed, was fed, she was sent to Bergen-Belsen where she succumbed to the typhus epidemic. So, it’s when you look at the Anne Frank’s story in particular and some of the newsreel footage, yeah it doesn’t add up.
John Friend: Yeah. It certainly doesn’t. Well there’s one final article and this is coming from the Jewish Federation of San Diego county. I live in San Diego county.
Eric Hunt: All right.
John Friend: And as you know, most major cities they have Jewish Federations and jewish groups. And a major part of the Jewish Federation is promoting the holocaust story and inviting survivors to come speak. And getting money from local governments, from the county government, from the federal government to, …
Eric Hunt: In San Diego you had that creepy looking Mayor, what was his name, Filner?
John Friend: Bob Filner, yeah. Such a disgusting pervert. Yeah, he was a jew. He was in Congress for a while too, and he was the mayor and he was just a total disaster. I think he ended up getting recalled. I know he ended up getting thrown out of office and he’s no longer the mayor. But it was a huge scandal and of course the city paid for all of his legal fees. And paid for everything basically. So he didn’t even really get in all that much trouble besides from being embarrassed and being exposed as a major sexual deviant and pervert.
Eric Hunt: Well, I mean you’re talking about local government, it’s like. I’m sure he was involved with funneling money to these Holocaust organizations, things like this.
John Friend: Oh, no doubt! Yeah, exactly. Well this lady that they do like a highlight of this alleged holocaust survivor named Marsha. And this is a quote from her, she says, “I only live for the holocaust”. [laughter from Eric] This is what she’s saying, “I only live for the holocaust”. She wakes up every day and goes out and tells her fake story to traumatize people and to advance jewish interests.
“Wanting as much as possible and as many children as possible to hear her life story.”
I mean, this is what these people do man, they live and die for this fake holocaust story.
Eric Hunt: Yeah, I mean, it’s the top promoters they know they’re spinning fiction and they enjoy it, they get a kick out of it. They, … A lot of them actually have a sort of artistic, they had an artistic bent already, some of them. Might have been interested in writing. And being poets, or some of them are painters, some of the actors, literally such as Dario Gabbai, the supposed sonderkommando. So, the top ones that are promoted to the forefront they, think it’s as interesting as being on the Broadway stage and they revel in it.
John Friend: They certainly do. And I mean, of course, there’s all sorts of financial benefits associated with it. It’s a very lucrative sort of business to be involved in.
Eric Hunt: Well, you know, what they say:
“There’s no business like Shoah business!”
John Friend: Absolutely. Well, Eric I think we’re going to go ahead and wrap up. This is a good discussion. I’m glad to touch base with you again. I think you’re doing great work. And I really encourage people to go check out your documentaries, and to support your work if possible. Do you want to give out your website, one more time?
Eric Hunt: Yeah. It’s “questioningtheolocaust.com”. And like I said, I’m trying to improve these production values. We can do a lot with a little. And hopefully have people appreciate it they can donate. And also think about John here, you know, I heard about you and how you lost your job because of jewish pressure groups, essentially. And you sacrifice a lot, so. To some people this is entertainment that you and I are doing. But, I know you have felt the real boot coming down on you and, you know, what it’s difficult. I mean I know I’m banned from PayPal and I don’t know if you are.
John Friend: Yeah. I got banned from PayPal.
Eric Hunt: So, hey guys, like, it’s embarrassing sometimes to ask for money but, we need it to continue to keep doing this and to improve what we’re doing. So, if you like what John’s doing, send him some money. If you like what I’m doing send me money [laughing]! You got to, we want to keep growing. I think I’m holding my end of the bargain, I’m trying to improve these production values. John’s doing what he’s doing. So, yeah, I hope some people step forward. We have a lot of talent in this movement, it’s just a matter of funding it at this point.
John Friend: That’s right. Well, I really appreciate your words man. That means a lot to me and I think you’re doing great work and this is very important. I mean we got to set the record straight and debunk this fake story in our lifetimes. That’s my goal! I want people to be openly denying the holocaust in the next twenty years!
Eric Hunt: Yeah. Add me on Twitter, @holocaustdenier.
John Friend: Oh nice. OK, very good, you are on twitter?
Eric Hunt: Yeah.
John Friend: OK, perfect. All right. Well Eric, thanks a lot man, I appreciate it. It’s always nice chatting with you. Will have to do this again in the future.
And yeah, I just want to thank everybody for tuning in today. We will talk to everybody very soon.
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