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Mark Collett

Is the Electoral Route a Dead End?

Fri, May 10, 2024

[In this video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, says:

“An in-depth explanation of why UK electoral politics is so difficult for nationalists to conquer. From the system of voting to the media’s power – what is holding back change in the UK and how did successive nationalist parties fail?”

Contents:

1. Mark welcomes viewers to livestream to discuss if elections are a dead end for nationalists.

2. First-past-the-post system leads to two party domination and minority governments.

3. Tactical voting is common as voters fear their preferred party won’t win.

4. In 2015 UK election, Conservatives won majority with 36.9% while UKIP got 12.6% but only 1 seat.

5. Collett recalls campaigning and seeing promotion of tactical voting.

6. Two party system creates nearly identical “centrist” parties.

7. Voters flip between two main parties every 10-15 years.

8. Media only covers two main parties and controls debates.

9. Outsider candidates attacked, insiders given soft interviews.

10. System makes it very difficult for smaller parties like nationalists to win representation.

11. BNP initially succeeded in 2002 due to electoral quirk putting all seats up for election.

12. BNP went on to win by-elections with large activist efforts.

13. In 2004 BNP expected to do well in EU election but UKIP took many of its votes.

14. After this BNP went into decline.

15. Terrorist attacks and arrests of BNP leaders brought attention back to party in 2005-06.

16. BNP had peak success in 2006, becoming official opposition in Barking and Dagenham.

17. BNP started losing seats in 2007 as other parties focused on defeating it.

18. Richard Barnbrook elected to GLA in 2008 with 5.4% vote for BNP.

19. Nick Griffin and Andrew Brons elected as MEPs in 2009.

20. In 2010 general election, BNP councilors wiped out except Brian Parker.

21. Former BNP candidate Chris Beverley loses seat in 2010 despite tireless campaigning.

22. BNP goes into tailspin after 2010 election.

23. By 2014 only Nick Griffin and few councilors remain from BNP’s peak.

24. Reflections on BNP’s brief success of 57 councilors, 1 GLA member, 2 MEPs.

25. Tensions grew within BNP as it declined after peak.

26. Nick Griffin’s appearance on Question Time in 2009 was a turning point for the worse.

27. Collett believes Griffin was underprepared and ignored advice.

28. Griffin’s poor performance on Question Time scared away middle-class voters.

29. After Question Time and 2010 election, BNP rapidly disintegrated.

30. Collett doesn’t lament dedicating his youth to BNP despite only to see all progress lost.

– KATANA]

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Hello everybody. Good evening and welcome to tonight’s stream. We are live in all the usual places. That means we’re live on Dlive. That means we are live on Odysee. That means we are live on Rumble. That means we are live on Entropy, and we should also be live tonight on BitChute. They just started a streaming service, but I’m not sure whether that’s going to work. I’ve put all the stuff in correctly, but they might be having a few teething problems and I have a couple of struggles setting up the stream.

So it’s not live there. I apologise to anyone who wanted to watch it live there. I’m sure I can work out teething problems in the future. I can’t really do that on tonight’s stream live, though, because it’s just me, obviously.

So because of that, if you are hoping to watch live on BitChute for the first time ever, unfortunately that might not be able to be happening. And if it’s not, my apologies.

Anyway, we’re obviously live and tonight’s stream is about elections. Are elections a dead end for nationalists? Can we win via the electoral route?

Well, before we get into that, at the end of the stream, we are going to do a Q&A.

So if you want to ask questions, you can send Superchats. You can send Superchats via Entropy or Odysee. Anything that you donate is very, very gratefully received.

And remember, I don’t put any of my work behind a paywall. Nothing I do is paywalled.

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Now, before we get into it, I’ll ask one more small favour. If you can, if you’d like, please drop a like on the stream. Please give it a share. I think this is a very important topic, so I think it’s something that people will probably enjoy. Well, I hope they do because I’ve prepared this thoroughly.

[02:35]

Now, before we start the stream and we go into all the things I want to talk about tonight, I’m going to first talk about what the stream isn’t. This stream is not an opinion piece. It’s not my opinions on whether we can win via the ballot box or whether we can’t. That’s not what it’s about. I’m here to present facts or try to present facts and evidence that illustrate the way the system works and how the system is not conducive to smaller parties winning.

In fact, the system is not conducive to anything other than the two party sort of oligarchy that we see at the top. And I want to talk about that and present facts and evidence.

So I’m not here tonight to tell you what to do. This isn’t me firing up the stream and saying:

“I don’t want you guys doing this or you guys shouldn’t do this or you shouldn’t spend your time campaigning this way. You should spend your time campaigning this way!”

That’s up to you, really. I want to present facts and evidence and I want you guys to look at those facts and evidence and you can decide for yourself how you spend your time.

If you want to go out there pounding the streets, putting out leaflets, boom! That’s up to you and that is absolutely your prerogative.

If, however, you watch the stream and you say:

“Mark, that adequately explains exactly why we have this problem with the democracy and why it doesn’t work. And I want to do community building, I want to help purchasing land with a Woodlander. I want to go and maybe move to a village in Italy where we’re buying an entire village out and we’re going to live there as a group.”

Whatever you choose to do, that’s up to you. I’m just here to present the evidence. Obviously, I know what I’m going to do. People know what I’m in favour of, it’s not here to shill for what I’m in favour of, it’s here to help you make an informed decision.

Now, finally, something else.

This isn’t going to be. I don’t want to move into the sort of realm of conjecture.

Now, a lot of people, when we talk about the electoral system, they start immediately saying things like:

“Oh, you know, they steal the votes, they take the votes, they open the ballot papers, it’s all rigged! It’s all done behind, you know, closed doors when those ballot boxes leave the voting booth, it’s all tampered with and by the time they get to the count, everything’s changed, etc. Etc.”

Well, I actually can’t prove that now. I’m not saying that doesn’t happen, I’m not saying that that’s never happened. I’m not saying that voting isn’t rigged in that way. I’m certainly not saying there isn’t a criminal conspiracy against our people. But I can’t prove that. I can’t prove that. I have no real evidence for that.

And fundamentally, because I don’t have evidence for it, I’m not going to present that as something tonight.

[05:29]

So if you’re coming here hoping for me to tell you what to do or to tell you about some grand conspiracy where votes are being stolen or ballot boxes are being opened or votes are being poured out into a river or burnt or replaced, I’m not going to give you any of that I’m going to talk about things that we can all agree on or verify that are visually observable. This is about the visually observable reality around us.

So why am I doing this stream? Well, I’m doing this stream to explain to nationalists why nationalist parties perform badly. And this is a question that people keep asking. I get people asking me all the time, why? I’m going to talk about a guy now that I like. He emails me a bit and I remember last year he was emailing me saying:

“It’s the time. There’s a feeling in the air, this is the time. People are now going to vote. Things are going to change. Everyone’s going to go out there and vote. Things are different now. We need to get on the ballot papers. Nationalist candidates are going to be elected left, right and centre. The time is now!”

And I said to him, I think you’re overestimating what’s going to happen. I think you’re off the mark on it for a number of reasons. I’ve got my reasons for saying that. And this guy is a really great guy. He wrote back to me a few days ago saying:

“You know what? You were right. Nationalists weren’t elected left, right and centre.”

And people then ask, why. Why when everything is so bad? Why when there’s record numbers of migrants? Why when the economy’s, you know, at a low? Why when there’s record inflation? Why when the Tories are so unpopular? Why when the LGBT agenda is being pushed down everyone’s throat? Why when all these horrible things are happening, are people still voting for the parties that rubber stamp all of this? Why aren’t people voting in nationalists left, right and centre?

Well, I intend to answer that question in a way that you guys are going to understand, and that will maybe help you guys either point people towards this stream or maybe you could articulate these points that I’m about to make to your friends and family. So I’m hoping this will be educational, helpful, maybe fun as well. [chuckling] It’s going to go on maybe for an hour and a half, 2 hours. It’s just going to be me.

So I hope you’ve got your cup of tea, your can of Red Bull, whatever you like, your glass of water. I’ve got my Red Bull. It’s half done already, but I’ve got a nice cool drink at the side of me because it’s a warm evening.

[08:00]

So let’s get into this. Now if you saw my initial advert for this stream, I broke things down into a number of different categories, categories that hopefully will allow you to follow my train of thought and to explain things. And when I’ve explained everything, I want to put everything into a historical perspective as well.

So I’m not just going to give you my thoughts. I’m not just going to go through all this and present the evidence. After I’ve done all that, I’m hoping that we can put all of this into perspective.

So first I’m going to talk about the electoral system. I’m going to talk about the First Past the Post system, how it tends to produce a two party system. I’m going to talk about the media’s role, I’m going to talk about safety valve parties. I’m going to talk about turnout.

When we’ve discussed all those things, I’m going to do a breakdown of recent nationalist results. Then I’m going to talk about historical perspective, about the one party that did do well in elections and that was the British National Party. And when I’ve done that, I’m going to briefly touch on why things are different in Europe or why people suggest things are different in Europe and then we’ll do Q and A.

But first things first. Let’s talk about the electoral system itself.

And I’m going to start by talking about the First Past the Post electoral system and why the First Past the Post electoral system fundamentally is not a system of representative democracy. And I know what you’re saying:

“Well, Michael Gove said, if you say this, you’re an extremist!”

No, I’m a guy who’s giving you facts.

Now the First Past the Post system is what the vast majority of British elections have run on. First Past the Post applies to county councillors, city, district, borough councillors. They’re the vast majority of elected positions in this country.

And finally, it also applies to your general election candidates. They’re your big ones, they run Parliament. They ultimately have the say in how the country’s run. And First Past the Post is quite simple. Each area, whether it be a constituency, or a council ward, people go to vote and the candidate with the most votes wins. And immediately, that sounds fair. That sounds wonderful! And you might be thinking to yourself:

“What are you talking about here, Mark? How is this not fair? We go to the polls and people vote and the candidate who gets the most votes, he’s elected. That’s democracy!”

Well, let me explain why this is not a representative democracy. First and foremost, if you do not vote for the candidate who wins, your vote effectively becomes meaningless.

Now, let me illustrate with an example. Well, not an example. This is sort of an abstract of how this works.

[11:08]

So if you have ten candidates standing for election, and one of those candidates, just one of those candidates, gets 11% of the vote, and all other candidates get an equal share of the vote, an exactly equal share of the vote. The candidate with 11% is returned. He is the winner! Let’s say it’s a Parliamentary ward. He goes to Parliament, he is your Parliamentary representative. That means only 11% of the people who voted have representation in Parliament.

In fact, 89% of people who voted in that constituency are not represented, their views aren’t represented.

And in fact, they voted against. The vast majority voted against the guy who’s in power. That is a shocking indictment of this system!

But it gets worse. Let’s say the turnout was 50%. That means it wasn’t 11% of people who are being represented. It means 5.5% of people actually have representation in Parliament, and 94.5% of the people in that constituency didn’t vote for the person who’s representing them. And a huge number, the people who did, voted against him. That sounds pretty bad, but believe it or not, it gets even worse!

Because we’re talking here about people who are on the electoral register. They’re the only ones that appear in those statistics. And we don’t know how many people aren’t on the electoral register. There are plenty of people who aren’t even registered to vote. And if you’re not registered to vote, you still exist. You still have wants, needs, desires, you still require some form of representation.

So, in fact, you have a guy in this case, going to Parliament with 11% of the popular vote, 5.5% of the electorate voted for him, and that number is shrunk even further by an indeterminable factor, because not everyone is registered to vote. That is how the First Past the Post system works.

The First Past the Post system works in a way that fundamentally does not give representation.

Now, I know what you’re thinking:

“Look here, Mark, maybe that works like that in your abstract, but how does it work in the real world? You know, surely it’ll work like that in some cases.”

Yeah. People sometimes get elected with, you know, 30% of the vote, and sometimes people get elected with 40% of the vote:

“But surely when you take things on a national level, these things even out, and it works out.”

No, it doesn’t! It doesn’t work out at all!

So we’re going to take an actual real world case study now. And we’re going to take the 2015 general election, because the 2015 general election is a great example, and it’s one you will all remember. It’s in recent living memory, very recent memory. And you guys will remember it for a reason. Hopefully. Hopefully, you will remember this election for a reason.

So the Conservatives got to power with a majority. They won 330 seats. There’s 350 seats in Parliament. They had a five seat majority, they took 330 of the seats in Parliament, and they got there with a 36.9 percentage share of the vote. So if we’re rounding that up to 37%, that means 63% of people who voted, voted for other parties voted against the Conservatives, effectively. So here you see the effects of the First Past the Post system.

The First Past the Post system creates these minority governments, because although it was a majority, it didn’t have the majority of the support. This wasn’t a 50, 60% of people voted Conservatives. No.

[15:43]

Now, if you said to the public, well, the Conservatives won the general election with a majority in 2015. And I said:

“And if you said to them, what percentage did they take nationally?”

I think people would say:

“Oh, maybe 50%, maybe 60%.”

No! 36.9% of the vote, and they took 11, 300. Sorry, 11 million 334, 726 votes. Labour took 30.4% of the vote and they took 232 seats. And that worked out at 9, 347, 324 votes.

But let’s look a bit further down. The party that came fifth were Nigel Farage’s party at the time, which was UKIP at the time. He obviously left UKIP, but at the time, he was the leader of UKIP. UKIP took 12.6% of the vote. They took 3, 881,099 votes.

Now, to the people in the chat, do you know how many seats they won? One! They won one single seat! One single seat. How crazy is that? Nearly 4 million people voted for them. They got just over a third of the share of the vote that the Conservatives did. But the Conservatives took 330 seats! And UKIP took one. And it wasn’t really a UKIP seat, it was a conservative defector who basically got re-elected off the back of the fact that he was a longstanding MP in his area.

So that tells you a little bit about the way the system is stacked. That tells you a little bit about the way the First Past the Post system does not result in representative democracy, but in fact results in a government that has a minority share. It doesn’t have a majority. Not of the voters, anyway. And a party that takes a third of the vote that the winning party took, ends up with virtually no representation gets one seat. One seat compared to the Conservatives, 330 seats.

So this illustrates immediately that the First Past the Post system is broken. It’s not really representative. Not only is it not representative, it allows for minority representation. And I’m using the word “minority” because we’ll come back to that. I think you can guess where we’re going with that word.

So what does this lead to, then? Well, it leads to a situation where people vote tactically, and by voting tactically, people will look at the spread and say:

“I don’t want to waste my vote.”

And you must have heard this before. Anyone who’s been involved in politics, and I’ve been involved in politics politics pretty much more than anyone on the sort of quote, unquote, “dissident”. Right. And by that, when I say involved in politics, I mean I’ve been involved in campaign politics. I was involved in more council election victories and more electoral wins than probably anyone else in this country ever.

[19:21]

Because if I wasn’t directly involved in the campaign, which I was often, I was the guy who did the leaflets. I was the guy that did the leaflets for the MEPs who won. I was the guy that did leaflet for Richard Barnbrook. I was the one who designed all the propaganda for the Barking and Dagenham campaign, where we won twelve councillors and we won overnight. And I have canvassed in the West Midlands, I’ve canvassed in Yorkshire, I’ve canvassed in the northwest. I’ve been all over the country, so I’ve seen this!

But if you’ve spoken to anyone, you will have seen and heard these things, too. You will have heard exactly what I’m saying now.

“It’s a wasted vote! I didn’t vote for you because it’s a wasted vote!”

And I’ve heard that thousands and thousands of times:

“This is a wasted vote. I’m not wasting my vote. I’m not voting BNP because it’s a wasted vote!”

That’s what people used to say. And I’d say:

“What do you mean, a wasted vote?”

“So you’re only going to get 5%. So what’s the point in voting for you? You can’t win! I want Labour out. You can’t win. So if I vote for you, I’m helping Labour. So I’m going to vote for the Tories.”

And I heard that in other places, but the opposite way around:

“You can’t win, and I want the Tories out. So rather than giving you 5.1%, I’m going to throw my weight behind the next biggest party to try and unseat the party I don’t like.”

People are very aware of this. People are aware of not wasting their votes.

And I remember the first time I went to vote, I looked down the ballot paper, it was actually for a European election, and I saw Conservatives and I thought:

“Oh, should I vote for those? And I saw you. I think I’m going to vote for them instead!”

And I saw the BNP logo. I was like:

“I’m voting for them. I’m voting for the BNP!”

And I voted BNP.

And I was really happy.

And even though the BNP didn’t win, I thought:

“Well, I’ve put my tick in the right box and people are going to see if enough people vote BNP, that there are people out there who do want change, there are people who want an end to migration, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.”

But it doesn’t work like that. If you’re not voting for a winning candidate, your vote doesn’t count, as we just said. So people say:

“Don’t waste your vote. Don’t vote for a party that can’t win. You should only vote for a party that can win! Vote for the party that can get the party that you don’t like out of power!”

There’s this desire to be on the winning team, a desire to create change. And people understand. You see, the electorate, nationalists often say:

[21:50]

“Oh, the electorate is stupid! The electorate don’t know what they’re doing. They’re idiots!”

That’s not true. The electorate do understand that. If you’ve ever knocked on doors, they will throw this in your face:

“You’re a small party, you’re not going to win! Why would I waste my vote on you?”

And I’ve knocked on so many doors. I’ve heard that, I’ve tried to argue with these people. I’ve said to them:

“Well, if you don’t vote for change, at some point you’re going to end up with these same two parties.”

And they’re aware of that. But the wasted vote is a big, big issue. Tactical voting is a big issue.

And this leads to this horrible situation where people are voting for the lesser of two evils.

“Oh, I really don’t like Labour, so I’m going to vote Conservatives!”

“I really hate the Conservatives. I’m going to hold my nose and vote Labour because I just want to get Sunak out of there!”

This is a major problem. It’s the flaw, the fundamental flaw of the First Past the Post electoral system. And now you’re thinking to yourself, I said earlier that I wasn’t going to present just my opinions, I was going to present facts. And I have. Now, as I’ve just said, I’ve campaigned on the street all over the country and been involved in more electoral wins than probably any nationalist alive today.

So what’s that taught me? Well, it’s actually taught me that everything I’ve just said is not only true from a public perspective, but it’s actually true from a party political perspective.

So when we used to walk around leafleting, you would often find other parties leaflets sort of hanging out of mailboxes and certain cheeky BNP members would pull them out and pocket themselves:

“I’ll pull that out, keeping that!”

Sort of a a cheeky little way to put yourself ahead.

And I remember seeing Lib Dem leaflets. And Lib Dems, although Lib Dems were completely aware of everything I’ve just said, and not only were they completely aware of it, they played into it. The Liberal Democrats actually played on this fear of a wasted vote that I’ve just been talking about.

So the Liberal Democrats knew, or know what I’m saying is true and they play up to it. They actually put this on their leaflets. So I’ve had Lib Dem leaflets in my hands that have shown a little graphic and they always used to have things on it like:

“Lib Dem’s winning here! Lib Dems, we’re the only ones that can beat labour! If you want the Conservatives out, don’t waste your vote. Vote Lib Dem!”

And they’d always have these little graphics and the graphics would often be something like a horse race with little jockeys on the back of the horses. And there would be the Labour horse, and the Labour horse would be near the line, the Lib Dem horse would be just behind Labour, and the Conservatives would be way back in the distance and they would say:

“Only the Lib Dems can beat Labour in this ward. Don’t vote for the Tories! It’s a wasted vote!”

They would play up to this. And I’ve seen Labour leaflets that have said similar things on it. They sometimes have these little graphs on, you know:

“Lib Dems are on 42%, Labour on 41%, Tories are on … whatever! Sort of 10%, others negligible! Don’t waste your vote! If you want to get rid of the Lib Dems, if you want to swing this council, vote Labour. Because we’re the only ones that can stop Lib Dems!”

And Lib Dems and Labour, they did this in Leeds. They did this in Leeds. I used to see these leaflets all the time. I’ve had them push through my door. I’ve had activists give them to me. This is something that regularly happens. So it isn’t just my observation. These aren’t just my takes. This is something that the other parties play up to.

The other parties are keenly aware this. The other parties are keenly aware of the flaws in this system, and they play up to it to lock out smaller parties.

[25:49]

Now, I’m going to give you another example.

Now, I used to know a girl whose dad I used to talk to a little bit about politics, and he was very much our way of thinking. He was a nice guy, she was our way of thinking.

And I remember speaking to them before an election and they said to me:

“Who should we vote for?”

Now, I knew there wasn’t really any nationalist candidates going to be standing, so I said:

“Look, if I was you guys, I’d vote UKIP, I’d vote UKIP because it’s your way of sending a message, a protest, that you want things to change. It’s your way of saying ‘no’ to the two party system.”

And the girl was like:

“That’s a good point. We should do that. Actually, I’m going to tell my dad that that’s who we should vote for. He was asking what your opinion was.”

So she went and told him what I said. She came back to me and says:

“Oh, no, he’s not voting UKIP!”

I said:

“Why not?”

“Because he’s going to vote Labour.”

“Why would he vote Labour? Why would he vote Labour?”

And she said:

“Well, he says that if you don’t vote Labour, your vote automatically goes to the Conservatives.”

Now, at the time, I was like, this is complete nonsense! And I just put this down to Labour, spreading this lie to get more votes and going to people who are maybe a little bit gullible or would believe things like this to get more votes.

But over the years, this sort of stuck with me, and I ruminated on this for a while. Now I think this guy actually misinterpreted what he was told. I think he heard something and, like, Chinese whispers he regurgitated it in the wrong way to me. And what he was actually told was:

“If you don’t vote Labour, you’re effectively voting for the Conservatives.”

[27:28]

So if you vote UKIP, and you were a Labour voter, you’re actually – because UKIP aren’t going to win – you’re actually taking Labour down by one, which means their vote is dropping closer and closer to the Conservatives.

And this is what people actually think! And this wasn’t a super political guy. He wasn’t going to nationalist meetings, he wasn’t reading Julius Evola, he was a normal guy, like, going down the pub, talked a bit of politics, didn’t like immigration, and he was keenly aware that if he didn’t vote Labour, he was actually helping the other party get in. And he really hated the Tories! This was a guy that grew up in the Thatcher era and couldn’t stand Maggie Thatcher, and he would never vote conservative! And he was like:

“Look, I’m never, never supporting the Tory Party! And if I vote for somebody other than Labour, I’m helping those Tories get closer to power!”

And, yeah, that’s what normal people think.

So the First Past the Post system is inherently undemocratic! And it’s not only inherently undemocratic, but it’s actually something that locks smaller parties out. It makes it infinitely harder for smaller parties to get representation. And even when a smaller party like UKIP takes nearly 4 million votes, it results in a single seat. And a result like that reinforces in the minds of normal people why UKIP or any other smaller party is a wasted vote, when it shouldn’t.

So I hope that sort of circles that off.

The first point is we live under a First Past the Post electoral system for the vast majority of our elections. It’s not representative democracy, it’s not designed to be, and it results in minority governments, it results in tactical voting, it results in people worrying about wasting their votes.

And essentially, it leads to the next point on our list of things we want to discuss.

It naturally tends towards a two party system. The First Past the Post system of voting creates a two party system, and then it props up that two party system. We’ve seen it! People tend toward the two largest parties, they tend towards the lesser of two evils:

“I’m voting Labour because the Tories really suck! I’m voting Tory because Labour were really bad on immigration! I’m voting for Labour this time because Sunak messed up the economy! Well, didn’t you vote for the Tories because Brown and Blair messed up the economy? Wasn’t the credit crunch the reason you voted Tory? There was all the credit crunch stuff, but now you’re voting them out because you think Labour are going to do a great job at fixing the economy, which was the problem last time!”

And this is the big issue, people voting for the lesser of two evils and flip flopping between two main parties, because otherwise it’s a wasted vote!

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And this leads to those two large parties becoming more similar, to the point where they become what is known as “centrist parties”. So a centrist party is a party that sits a millimetre, …

So if you. This is a simplistic way of looking at things, and I know people are going to be saying:

“You can’t plot your political allegiances on a straight line from right to left.”

But that’s what we’re going to do for the sake of this.

So if you looked at a graph and you say, on this side, which is my left hand side, you’ve got your extreme Left. On this side, you’ve got your extreme Right. And right there, right down the middle, is your centre line. When you have a two party system, you end up with one party that is one millimetre to the left of the central line and one party that is one millimetre to the right of the central line. And you end up with two parties that say exactly the same thing, but are painted in different colours, and one attempts to appeal to everything to the left of that line and one attempts to appeal to everything to the right of that line.

And this leads to a situation where both parties push exactly the same agenda! And there is never change. And we’ve touched on something else here. People have short memories! So if people gave up on Labour 10, 15 years ago, they’re soon enough ready to give Labour another chance.

Now, again, this might just be anecdotal evidence, but I have campaigned all over Yorkshire.

Now, I went for dinner with an old friend the other day, it was a lovely dinner. Went out for lunch, talked about politics, talked about PA. He’s very enthusiastic about it. You know, he’s an old BNP man. And we were reminiscing about the old times, about knocking on doors in parts of Yorkshire. And he reminded me of a particular campaign.

And I remember I was very active in that campaign. I was there most nights of the week, and I was definitely there all weekend. And I was there in a suit, shirt and tie, knocking on doors, speaking to people. And it was a Labour area that the BNP ended up winning a council seat in.

And I remember that because I remember speaking to people in that campaign, and I remember people telling me:

“I will never vote Labour again! I’ve had enough! I’ve had enough. Nope! I’m never voting, … I’ll vote BNP, but I’ll never vote Labour again!”

This is what they said. And this would have been, I don’t know, maybe 2004, 2005, sometime in the two thousands, anyway. And these people were so sick of Labour politicians of Blair and Brown! They were sick of the Iraq war, they were sick of Britain’s foreign involvement in issues that didn’t concern them. They were sick of what was at the time massive numbers of migration, obviously dwarfed by migration now. They were never going to vote Labour again.

They’re now voting Labour again! They’re now the people that have just actually, by majority, voted in a Labour Mayor for West Yorkshire. That [chuckling] tells you everything they forgot. People are saying, this time, when the Tories go down, it’ll all be forgotten. It’ll never be forgotten. Rishi Sunak will sink them for good. Will he? Will he?

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People said when Thatcher got in in 79, that was the end of Labour. But Labour were back in 97. And when Labour got in 97. People said the Tories were so corrupt, they were so awkward, awful! The cash for questions, the scandals, the sleaze! Because that’s what sank them:

“No one will ever vote Tory again after everything they’ve done!”

Yet, in 2010, they voted the Tories in again. And when they voted the Tories in, people were like:

“This is what we need. We need a change. Get Blair and Brown out. They’ve ruined the economy. They flooded the country. We’ll never forget what Blair and Brown! Seeing all these young soldiers coming back in boxes. We don’t want this. These people destroyed the country!”

That’s what people were saying.

And now here we are, staring down the barrel of a general election in 2025. Where Labour looks set to win, what will be a Thatcherite, or what looks today to be a Thatcherite or Blairite majority. Who would have thought it? Who would have thought that 14 years after the Tories were elected, people would be forgiving the party of Blair and Brown? But they’re embracing Starmer in record numbers for more of the same. More of the same!

So don’t think this two party system is easy to break up. The two party system is created by the First Past the Post system. It’s then propped up by the First Past the Post system. It creates this centrism where you have two identical parties and then people, by design, flip flop between those parties who basically rubber stamp exactly the same policies. And these people have short memories, you know, 10, 15 years down the line, they are ready to kick out the people that they voted in, and re elect the party that 10, 15 years ago they kicked out and vowed never again! This is a problem! And this is a reality of our system. And it’s another reality, just like the First Past the Post system that locks smaller parties out.

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Now, the third thing I want to talk about is if it wasn’t bad enough that we lived under a First Past the Post system, if it wasn’t bad enough that this created this two party system which is unbreakable and hasn’t been broken post Second World War, you then look at the media’s role in elections. Because not only is the system terrible, not only are the main parties corrupt, best friends, and colluding to create this two party system where they scare people into not wasting their votes. The media makes all this so much worse by interfering and preventing any kind of freedom of information.

And what do I mean by “freedom of information”? Will the media work around this two party system to ensure that only the approved parties get airtime? And this is a massive problem! Is there a debate on TV? Yes, there will be. Between the approved parties. What will be their topics of discussion? Those issues will be decided on beforehand. Who decides upon those issues? Who decides who are the approved parties? Well, the media. The media who work with the approved parties, and love the first past opposed system and approve of all of the policies that the two approved parties agree to talk about. And this creates the absolute iron control over information!

Now, my dad was talking about this years ago and I remember him saying this at the time, and this was something that always struck me as so important.

And again, this is an observation of mine, but I think it’s pretty factual.

So I’m going to throw this out to you guys in the chat. How many times have you guys, just hit a one in the chat? How many times have you guys, if you guys ever watched one of these TV debates, have you guys ever watched an election debate on TV done by the BBC or ITV? Have you? I hope you have. You know, tell me if you have. What do they talk about in these debates? It’s always minutiae. It’s always minutiae! That would never make a damn bit of difference!

So one party is gonna spend an extra billion on the NHS, but is going to put tax up a penny on the pound for a certain tax bracket.

The other party, they’re not going to spend a billion on the NHS, but they are going to reduce the tax burden by a penny on every pound.

Does it make any difference? What are they actually talking about? Well, when you put this all into perspective, the NHS is billions and billions of pounds in the hole. It swallows billions and billions of pounds every year. 1 billion to the NHS would basically belittle more than a bandage over the festering wound. It doesn’t matter! And what’s your penny on your tax? Does the average worker notice this penny here, penny there?

And this is what they do with fags and booze. I don’t drink. I have the odd drink if it’s a particular occasion, but I don’t go down the pub. I certainly don’t smoke, nor do I recommend people should smoke.

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But one of the ways these parties will try to win people over, is one of these parties, one of these parties will say:

“You know what? We’re only going to increase. We’re only going to increase cigarette and alcohol duty by a penny!”

And the other party says:

“Well, we’re going to increase cigarette duty by a penny, but we’re going to freeze alcohol duty!”

What? What? They’re actually arguing over a penny on your pint. So if a pint’s three pounds, okay, you would have to, if you voted for the party, that’s saving you a penny on your pint, you’d have to drink 300 pints. [chuckling] 300 pints to get a free pint back! Does it matter? Are you ever going to notice?

But the way they talk about these things, it’s total theatre, it’s total nonsense!

But then the public are talking about:

“I’m voting for the red party because they’re going to give it to the NHS and my mum needs a hip replacement!”

And then the other guys:

“No, I’m voting for the blue party. They’re freezing duty on alcohol. I’m getting a penny off each pint I drink!”

And you’re like, aahhh! Am I actually hearing this? Am I actually hearing these grown men arguing over this tiny, inconsequential minutiae when there are so many huge problems? And am I actually seeing an audience of grown adults cheering, clapping, applauding and going along with it? And it’s terrible!

And what makes it even worse is that audience I just told you about, they were all vetted before they came in, so they know when to cheer, what to cheer for, what questions to ask, because they’re never going to let a normal person in front of a TV camera to say:

“Hey, you know, my daughter has to go to school and she gets harassed on the way in there by the migrants sleeping rough on the side of the street on her route to school. When are you going to do something about this?”

They don’t let that happen. They’ll never talk about these big issues.

And what’s more, the media never hold them to account.

So not only do the media only cover the approved parties, not only do they decide upon the issues beforehand, not only do they control the debates and control the studio audience around the debate and decide who actually gets to speak to the politicians, they airbrush out all the politicians failings, airbrush it all out! Covid didn’t happen! Tory. Immigration. Promises of getting immigration under 100,000 a year, didn’t happen! Forget that. What about promises? I don’t know. On anything else? On the economy, on the NHS? Every time one of these political parties fails to make good on their promises, the media covers for it.

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So you have the First Past the Post system of voting. You have this two party system that creates this centrist, immovable block that people are scared of voting outside of it, and then that’s all surrounded by the media who are telling people:

“This is normal, these are the approved things. This is what people want to hear. People don’t want to talk about immigration, people only want to talk about a penny on the pint. People want to ask, how long are you freezing fuel duty for? What? We need fuel duty to go down. We’re paying one pound 46 a litre at the pump. Why don’t you knock something off it? Oh, no, no! The Tories are going to freeze it for six months. Labour only for three months. Oh, better vote Tory, then!”

And it’s the same hogwash again and again and again! And then if the media do get someone on who is an outsider, if the media actually do get somebody on, all of a sudden this toothless, smiling simpleton who has interviewed the Labour and Tory candidates with smiles and softball questions that were so easy to answer that somebody with an IQ of 75 would have managed to knock them out the park. All of a sudden they show their teeth. The vampire teeth come out and they go in for the kill:

“Your candidate in Greenwich said this. You said this when you were 21. Didn’t your party have a member who once said this?”

And you’re thinking to yourself:

“What’s going on?”

They didn’t ask the Labour Party leader, Kier Starmer, why he let numerous high profile paedophile cases go unanswered and just wave them away. They’re not asking him that affected people’s lives. You’re talking about a candidate that we’ve got in Greenwich that posted an NG meme the other week. What are you doing? You know, Bill from Greenwich, he posted a meme about the British Royal Navy sinking a migrant boat. But you’re talking about that like it’s the end of the world. But you’re ignoring the fact that the Labour Party took us into the Iraq war on, you know, bogus information and lies, that their new leader basically let people like Jimmy Savile walk free. You’re ignoring the fact they covered up the grooming scandal. You’re asking them, how great will life in Britain be under you, Sir Kier. But to the nationalist guy, don’t you have a candidate that once posted the edgy meme? What? And it gets worse!

Because, as I said, I’ve got more experience than most. I remember standing in Leeds and the front page of the newspaper the day before the election was a big picture of me and it simply read:

“Don’t vote for this Nazi!”

So the media that are meant to be impartial, these are meant to be the people that impart the facts.

So the public can decide absolute BS!

They are completely corrupt! They feed everyone lies. They put on this pageantry that I’ve just spoken of and sometimes they literally tell people:

“Okay, we’ve got a two party system, but this guy here in Richmond Hill, in Leeds, we think he could win. We think he could win. So don’t vote for this Nazi!”

It’s completely corrupt! It’s absolutely corrupt to the highest level!

So that’s the first three points. First Past the Post system, the two party system and the media’s role. And I bet you’re thinking, it can’t get worse, can it, Mark? Whoo. It gets worse!

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So all of this is created to ensure that this two party system is created, held in place. There’s never any proper debate, there’s never any oversight. And you have your information, you know, filtered through the sewage pipe of the media. But just in case all of that doesn’t work, just in case all of that does not work, [chuckling] you’ve got the safety valve parties.

So they are nervous because they think:

“Well, maybe, maybe there’s a chance that some people will vote outside of the mainstream.”

So they create parties that say things that nationalist parties do, and then they give those parties huge amount of airtime, so nationalists vote for them rather than the nationalist alternative.

Now, I know UKIP got huge. I know UKIP got huge and I’m talking about UKIP, Brexit Party before, and I know UKIP got huge. But back around, 2004, before the Euro elections, no one was talking about UKIP. No one cared about UKIP. People cared about the BNP. The BNP had its first councillors elected in 2002. It got more in 2003. People were buzzing about the BNP’s potential! The BNP was huge news.

Then all of a sudden, it came to the Euro elections, where they won a rare election that was run on PR. Sadly, they’re gone now.

So that’s that Avenue’s closed to us. And what happened? All of a sudden, the media, total blackout on the BNP:

“UKIP are going to do well. If you want to vote against immigration, if you want to vote against Europe, vote UKIP. Forget the BNP!”

They didn’t even say forget the BNP. They just stopped talking about the BNP.

So this big threat that had been looming, the party that everyone was scared of, the party that all the scare stories had been written about, the party that was actually winning council seats, they stopped covering. And the safety valve is rolled out and everyone voted UKIP.

And at that point, the BNP didn’t get any candidates elected at the Euro election. The BNP was projected to, but the safety valve party comes out.

So this makes things even worse. And the media plays play this up.

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So it was always the same. Two or three months before a European election, all of a sudden, UKIP reappeared. Farage was on everything. He was invited on every single chat show, every discussion show. The Daily Mail would be running puff pieces for him, the Express would be running puff pieces for him. Nick Griffin’s face was airbrushed out of everything:

“No one talk about the BNP!”

And the public believe it. The public are like:

“What? What the media is saying there’s a chance we could maybe vote for somebody different here. Who is this? Who is this bold challenger? What? And they’re against immigration!”

And you’re the little guy in the BNP going:

“We’re against it too! You know, we’re the ones who’ve been telling you about this for the last five, six years. We’d be the ones knocking on your doors. We were the ones winning council seats. Vote for us!”

But people didn’t.

And I remember in 2004, we actually had a family, lovely family in Leeds, join he BNP.

And I remember going and visiting them when they joined to say, would you like to come to a meeting and introduce ourselves? And we said:

“Oh, did you vote for us locally? And this family were a family that lived in Richmond Hill, which was my ward. And they said:

“Yeah, of course we did, Mark, mate, we had a poster in the window for you. We told our friends to vote for you.”

I was like:

“Thank you so much! Thank you so much!”

And he goes:

“But we didn’t vote for you in the Euros.”

I was like:

“What? What? Why?”

And he was like:

“Well, UKIP had a better chance. Everyone was talking up UKIP. UKIP were the ones that seemed to be a shoe-in for that election.”

And I was like:

“Well, thank you for your vote.”

But if everybody who had voted BNP locally and was so enthusiastic about BNP at the local elections had voted BNP in the Euro elections, I think we’d have got a seat there. I think we’d have actually got a seat back in 2004. But we didn’t because the “safety valve” was rolled out, just like they’re rolling out Reform now, just like they rolled out the Brexit Party.

And people will say:

“Hey, Mark, but you keep calling a ‘safety valve’. How can you prove it’s not a legitimate party?”

Well, I can actually prove it’s not a legitimate party. How? Well, at the last general election, when, was it the Brexit Party at the time were challenging against Boris Johnson, they actually looked like they were going to swing marginal seats.

So there are marginal seats where there’s only a thousand or so votes between Labour and Tory. And the Brexit Party, if it had stood in those marginal seats, it would have split the Tory vote and it would have destroyed the Tory Party. Boris wouldn’t have got in. It would likely have been a hung Parliament, or even taken it close, maybe to Corbyn actually winning. So what did the Brexit Party do? As soon as the Brexit Party could actually have some kind of decisive effect on the election, Farage and the Brexit Party withdrew all their candidates! Well, if that’s not a safety valve. If that’s not proof of a safety valve party, if that’s not proof that it’s rigged in that sense with a safety valve, that when that safety valve looks like it might present a threat to the system, it withdraws.

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Now, the Brexit Party did stand. The Brexit Party did stand, but they withdrew all their candidates from marginal wards to ensure that the Conservative Party didn’t lose seats.

So people did vote Brexit Party, but only in seats where it would have no effect whatsoever!

Do you see where I’m coming with this? This is the system we live under. So we’ve got, First Past the Post, boom! Bad system, not representative! The two party system! The media propping it all up.

And then just in case anything looks like it might go wrong, you have the “safety valve” parties.

So that’s why the system is so difficult for nationalists to actually crack.

Now, I didn’t go in to anything here about vote rigging. I didn’t go into any sort of fanciful stories about stealing ballot boxes. I’ve stuck completely here to actual things that you guys can observe.

And I hope that this portion of what we’re saying has been interesting. And I hope it’s been informative.

But there’s a lot more to come.

I’m just going to have a little bit of my Red Bull and then we’re going to have some more. It’s a very hot day here. It’s a very hot day here.

So I’m going to talk about the turnout now.

Now, one of the copes that nationalists have is that turnout is low. Turnout’s low, people aren’t voting.

And one of the takes that I see rolled out every now and again, well, every now and again, quite regularly, whenever I talk about elections, one of the popular copes or takes is:

“The real winner is apathy! Apathy was the real winner of this election!”

Now this is basically what people say when they’re kidding themselves into thinking that there’s loads of people who want to vote but they’re not voting. And there’s this vanguard of people just waiting for the right party to come along and then all of a sudden turnout is going to go through the roof and nationalist parties are going to be elected. So usually it’s 50% turnout, but when the Right nationalist candidate stands, turnout is going to jump to 90%, he’s going to pick up all the votes and boom! Revolutionary voting patterns!

No, this is garbage. It doesn’t happen. People have been saying this for my entire time in nationalist politics.

So when I was first out leafleting, which is probably back at around, 2000, people were saying:

“We just need the people who aren’t voting to get out and vote.”

And here we are in 2024. And those people who weren’t voting in the year 2000, they ain’t voting now either. They ain’t voting now.

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And what’s more, turnout isn’t that low. I saw turnout in a lot of areas was usually around 30% to 40%. 30% to 40% was generally around the norm when I used to stand in Leeds. You’d see about 36%, 34%, sometimes high twenties now. Yeah, turnout is a bit lower in some areas, I’ll grant that, but turnout is low for council elections.

And a lot of people who say “Apathy’s the winner” don’t really understand electoral cycles.

Now, in the area where I live, there was no information about the elections. I think we got two leaflets through the door that the entire electoral run, we got our polling cards through the door and we didn’t see anything else. There was No campaigning on the day, no loudspeaker vans, no posters, no placards, nothing! No buzz, no razzmatazz, nothing! It was just there and then it wasn’t there. That causes low turnout.

But let me explain how turnout works, and I hope you understand this because I’m going to use an analogy.

Now, I hope you’re all familiar with the World Cup.

So the World Cup happens in different stages. You have the World Cup qualifiers where all the teams play in-groups to find out who’s actually going to get to the World Cup. Then when they get to the World Cup, teams get put into groups and they play the World Cup group stages. Usually two teams go through from each group and they enter the World Cup knockouts. Teams advance through the knockout stages until the semi-finals, and then finally you get the big day, the World Cup Final!

Now, why am I bringing up football? Because I don’t really like football. It’s okay, but it’s not my favourite thing. So why am I bringing it up? Well, the number of people who watch a World Cup final is absolutely humongous! So potentially billions of people. Somebody can Google it. Billions of people probably watch the World Cup final.

In fact, I’m going to Google it. “How many people watched last World Cup final?” Last World Cup final was watched by 1.5 billion people globally. That’s huge! That’s huge! And those people, you might say they’re football fans. But where were those people when the World Cup qualifiers were? Because they weren’t watching. And they weren’t watching, really, in the group stages. A few more watched in the knockout stages, a lot more watched in the semi-finals, but the big turnout was, for them, the big one, the World Cup final.

So, yeah, people who are football fans, they tend to have fewer people watching the qualifiers, few more watching the group stages, because the World Cup’s officially started. A lot more watching the knockouts, a lot more watching the semi-finals and then huge numbers watching the World Cup final. That’s how it works. Not everyone who watches the final watches every other game. Now there are hardcore people who turn out and watch every single game. They’ll watch from the qualifiers right through to the final. That’s rare. And it’s the same with elections.

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Now in this country the World Cup final is the general election. And you cannot miss a general election. It’s all the media talks about. It’s all the press talks about. It’s all over social media. There’s billboards, there’s posters, there’s loudspeaker vans. Your house is getting bombarded with leaflets that are delivered by Royal Mail on behalf of the main parties. There’s party political broadcasts, sometimes two a day. You cannot miss it! And turnout goes up massively! Turnout goes up massively! It goes through the roof. All of a sudden, your turnout is up to usually somewhere between 60 and 80%, depending on the constituency.

But when you have your councillor elections, or your European elections, or these smaller elections, turnout is much, much lower. These are sort of like your World Cup qualifiers, if you like. And you will see this again when it comes to the next general election and people get to go out and actually vote for a Parliamentary candidate, and it’s who’s going to run the country, not who’s going to decide where the dog poo bins go on the local council, who’s going to run the country? The stakes are higher, the buzz is more. This is the big one. People understand the importance of this. Turnout will go up, it always does.

So don’t look at the turnout of local elections and say:

“Normal people aren’t voting anymore because they’re just sat at home waiting for the Right candidate to come along.”

They’re not! And they won’t! You will see this happen in waves. It always happens this way. Council elections are often neglected and low turnout is often an indicator of the number of leaflets and the amount of publicity material that goes out around an election.

So these are relatively normal occasions.

And what’s more, you will find the same at Parliamentary by-elections. As a rule of thumb, Parliamentary by-elections have much lower turnouts than a general election. And because of that’s why you tend to have more upsets occur at Parliamentary by-elections than you do at general elections.

Now, bear in mind everything I’ve just said there, because we’re going to come back. We’re going to come back to that because this little thing about turnout comes back and bites us in the end, at the end of our story.

So now I’ve said all that I’m going to do a breakdown of our recent results and I’m going to talk about all the nationalist parties and I’m going to group Reform in that I’m going to ask, how did all the nationalist parties fare in the UK?

And I’m going to ruin the surprise. Reform got two candidates elected nationwide!

And as for ethno-nationalist parties, not a single ethno-nationalist party got a single candidate elected. And that leaves us with a total number of elected ethno-nationalist candidates in this country as a big fat round zero! There’s none! There isn’t a single councillor in this country who stood for an ethno-nationalist party. That is how it works. And that is the truth!

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So let’s go through them all. But look, I’m going to only mention two parties by name, the rest of the parties, because I’m not going to be accused of being bitchy. You can guess who the other parties are. I’m going to call them party 1, 2, 3, 4, etcetera.

So I’m not directly taking a dump on any party by name, except for Reform.

Now, reform got two people, candidates, elected nationally. That is appalling! Why is it appalling? Because that is the safety valve party. If the safety valve party, if the civic nationalist safety valve party can’t get elected, the ethno-nationalists aren’t either. That’s a rule of thumb, I’m telling you. And Reform should have knocked it out of the park. Reform have millions and millions of pounds. They’ve got Farage, they’ve got Katie Hopkins, they’ve had Conservative Party defectors, they’ve got Richard Tice on TV all the time. We’ve got the Daily Mail and the Daily Express bigging them up, and they’ve got GB News!

GB News is basically like Reform’s political, … You know how we have these streams. Well, that’s what GB News is for Reform. They’ve basically got a channel that’s on the air, I don’t know whether it’s 24/7 but they’ve got a full-time broadcasting channel shilling for them. They’ve got Farage on there, they’ve got Katie Hopkins shilling for them on Twitter, they’ve got defectors from the Conservative Party, and they’ve got a war chest that’s in the millions of pounds. And they got two people elected. That’s a disaster! It’s an absolute disaster! And if they flopped now, when it’s a low turnout, what are they going to do at the general election?

Well, I’ll tell you what, it’s going to be worse! The Reform Party did disastrously! And if the Reform Party, and I’ll tell you this now, people were talking about:

“Well, this time when people go out to vote, they’ll vote for anyone but the main parties!”

You know, we’re going to see a massive breakthrough here. And the same hurt the Left. Galloway’s party only got four elected. It wasn’t a good night for people on the Left or the Right outside of the mainstream. The big winners, Lib Dems, who jumped into second place, and Labour, who absolutely took the lion’s share, took over 1,000 candidates.

The fact of the matter is they did not do well.

Now, talk about the next party. We’ll call this party, party number one.

Now, this party had a good strategy and PA helped this party. They stood in police commissioner elections and they actually did all right. And you gotta guess this one. This one’s the English Democrats. So I say I’m gonna name two. I might as well name them. The English Democrats had a good strategy. They stood for police commissioner elections.

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Now, why is that a good strategy? Because there’s only two elected positions in the country which actually create change. What do I mean by that? Well, if you get elected as a sole councillor on the council, you make no change. Even an MP getting elected has a voice, but can’t actually make any form of legislative change.

So it was great when George Galloway got elected, but can he make any legislative change? No, he can’t. But a police commissioner can. If you were elected as police commissioner, you can actually sack the Chief Constable, you can decide whether budget spent, you get to employ your own team, and you actually get to ensure that the police in your area do as you’re telling them because you’re their boss. So that’s a position that is worth winning.

The other position that’s worth winning is a directly elected Mayor, because they have a similar power in that they can impose policy, they can impose all forms of local changes. So say an English Democrat got elected as a directly elected Mayor. They could say:

“Look, everyone gets a St George’s Day parade in the town.”

These are good positions to go for. But it wasn’t great.

You know, we helped Robin Tilbrook put out, in total, 45,000 leaflets were put out for the police commissioner election, for Robin Tilbrook. We put out between 30 and 35,000, and English Democrat activists put out another 10,000. I would say, in the chat, guess how many you think the Tories put out? Well, the Tories put out, I’m not going to make you guess. The Tories put out half a million! And yeah, you heard that right. And not only did they put out half a million, there was a section on every council candidate standing in that area saying:

“Don’t forget to vote for us for police commissioner elections as well!”

So they have half a million leaflets put out directly for the police commissioner, and they got a section on every single council election leaflet in that area as well.

So even though there was a Herculean effort of putting out this 45,000 leaflets, and that takes a lot of time, what did it result in? Well, Robin took a respectable result for such a large area and he took 45,000 votes. But unfortunately, it was a mile off. The Conservatives won. So that wasn’t a great result. It was hard fought, but it wasn’t a great result.

Now, the next party that I’m going to talk about, they got humiliated. The next party is a longstanding nationalist party. They’ve never in their whole history, and I think they were founded in about 2011. They’ve never had a councillor elected. I think they’ve had one councillor under their banner, but that was a councillor they inherited. It wasn’t a councillor that they directly got elected. So after over a decade of activity, they’ve never had anybody elected under their banner. And they stood two candidates. Neither of them got anywhere near winning sand they stood in the GLA as well.

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Now, I remember when Richard Barnbrook got elected to the GLA [Greater London Assembly], he took 5.4% and won a seat. And that was a massive thing! These guys took 0.8%.

Now, to get that 0.8% of the vote, they claim that they spent 35 grand.

Now, it cost ten grand just to go on the ballot paper. It cost another ten grand to go in the Mayoral booklet, so it’s probably factual they spent 35 grand to get around, 20,000 votes. And to get 0.8%. And they were beaten by a guy called Count Binface, who is the modern incarnation of the monster raving loony party. He’s a guy that turns up dressed in fancy dress with a bin for a head and like, a robot face cut into it. And he basically, the candidate I’m talking about, the nationalist, got beaten by this comedy candidate. And that’s terrible!

Now, I know it’s in London, and I know London’s only 36.8% White British, but to come away with 0.8% of the vote and get beaten by the comedy candidate, that’s grim! So Reform did terribly. The English Democrats big effort, but unfortunately didn’t do anything. And this party, 0.8%, beaten by Count Binface. And spent 35 grand to get humiliated.

The next party. This is another old party. This was a party that was formed when the BNP entered into decline in around, 20011. Again, they’ve been going well over a decade. Now they have had a couple of elected councillors and an MEP at one time. But they never got those councillors elected. These were just people who defected to them. Again, it’s another party that’s been going over a decade that has never, ever managed to actually get anybody elected under their own banner. They stood some candidates. Again, it didn’t go very well for them.

The next party is a newer party. It was a party that was formed by people who split away from PA. They did disastrously! They spent a year telling people that they’re going to be standing all over the country. They stood in one single seat! One! They said:

“We’re going to be standing everywhere. Local community politics is what we’re doing!”

Local community politics. They stood in one seat and they polled disastrously! They put a national campaign into one seat and polled disastrously! Their candidate got 569 votes and came second with, 23% when he stood as an independent. When they had a national mobilisation to get him elected under their banner, his vote dropped to 355 votes, his percentage share dropped to 13% and he was budged down into third place. That is a disaster!

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And these people were talking about local politics, local community policies, and that was a national effort. They had people travel over 200 miles to go campaigning for him. They had everything. They claimed they knocked on doors, they put out multiple leaflets, they put up placards all over the ward, and they got fewer votes when standing under their party banner and putting in a national effort than they did when the guy stood as an independent a year earlier. If that doesn’t tell you everything, what does?

Now, finally, there is another party again. People who used to be with PA, this party broke away. These guys didn’t even stand. These guys have said:

“No, we’re not going to be standing in council elections. Council elections are waste of time! We’re just going to stand in the big national elections, in the general election!”

Well, that’s ridiculous! To say that you’re not going to stand locally but you’re just going to leapfrog over everything and stand in the general election is absolutely ridiculous!

My prediction is these people who, again, have talked big about elections, I don’t believe they’ll even stand. And their leader himself has already said he ain’t going to stand. He’s not going to stand under his own party banner. I mean, why would he? This is the state of nationalism.

Every party I’ve just talked about there, and I haven’t named some of them because I don’t want to get involved in drama, but I have given you a genuine breakdown of their results, and all of them failed. And Reform got two people elected out of all of the candidates that stood.

And I’m going to give you a reality check here. I’m going to give you a reality check. Do, you know how many council candidates there are in Great Britain?

So basically, I’m going to break down what Great Britain is first. Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales. The United Kingdom is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. So this excludes Northern Ireland.

So we’re talking about Great Britain, the mainland.

Now, Great Britain has about 19,000 council seats. And there isn’t a single one in the hands of an ethno-nationalist party. Not a single one! And let’s say some of these small parties did win a council seat. Let’s say one of these parties that were putting in a huge national effort to win one council seat, won that council seat. One, would it make a difference? And two, this is even worse. What is the long term strategy?:

“Well, we’re going to win one council seat and keep going like that every year!”

Well, where does that get you in a thousand years? You’ve got a thousand candidates? It’s not a viable strategy, that’s all I’m going to say.

So this year’s results were the worst, or some of the worst I’ve ever seen! And nationally there are two Reform councillors and there are three people who stood for a strange offshoot of Reform called Reform Derby. They were elected last year.

So that’s maybe five people, part of some form of safety valve organisation, out of 19,000. It’s grim.

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So saying all that, we’ve got one thing left to discuss, or two things.

The first is a historical perspective. Let’s look at the history of the only party, the only party to ever succeed at the ballot box in any meaningful way under an ethno-nationalist banner. That’s the BNP. That’s the British National Party, who won at both local, regional and national elections!

So we’ve got to talk about these guys. We’ve got to talk about them. And look, I’m going to say this. I don’t like him, he doesn’t like me, he’s always sniping at me. But Nick Griffin was the leader of this party at the time. And when I first met him, I had nothing but admiration for him. And he had an electoral strategy. And that electoral strategy bore fruit for a short amount of time.

So I’m going to give you a brief history lesson.

The BNP did do well in the short term. It took 56 councillors, one county councillor, giving it a total of 57. It took a member on the GLA, Richard Barmbrook, and it returned two MEPs, two, to the European Parliament. That was massive! That was massive! And it seems really, really powerful, compared to what we’ve got now. And let’s talk about this. Let’s do a brief history. Let’s run through it really quickly.

Well, how did that happen? Well, Burnley in 2002 was where it all started, and there was three councils elected in Burnley.

And I’m not taking anything away from the Burnley guys. They put in a lot of hard effort. But do you know how that happened? Do, you know how that happened?

Well, I’m going to tell you. It wasn’t what people say. It wasn’t just a local revolution. In 2002, there was a quirk of the electoral system where every single ward in Burnley had its boundaries redrawn. So every single councillor was being elected. Usually councillors are elected for a four year period.

So there’s a year of elections, a year of elections, a year of elections, break, a year of elections, a year of elections, and it rolls around like that.

However, this particular year, the whole council was up for grabs. So instead of voting for one candidate, you voted for three. This quirk of the system meant that three BNP councillors got elected. Because the BNP ran a genius campaign that said:

“Vote for your usual party, but lend us one of your votes to create change.”

Now, that was an amazing win! And I’m not taking anything away from it. But it was a quirk of the system. It was a quirk of the system that helped us get in. Will there ever be a quirk of the system like that again? I don’t know.

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So the ball started rolling in Burnley, not just because of hard work, but because of luck and because of the quirk of the system. And you can’t ignore that it’s like saying:

“Well, we won the battle and our people fought hard, but, you know, it did happen to be raining that day and that really affected the other army, so they couldn’t mount their cavalry charge as they usually do.”

Well, yeah, you may have fought well and your troops do deserve all the credit that they are receiving, but you can’t overlook the fact there were other factors that led to that.

Now, following that, there were a number of by-elections that the BNP won. They won a by-election in Blackburn. I was on the ground and I designed many of the leaflets for that campaign, including a smear leaflet against the Lib Dems, which won’t worked absolutely fantastically!

There was also a by-election in [word unclear]. I was on the ground for that every single day. That was in Halifax and that was the coldest I’ve ever been in my life. I’ve spoken about that on stream before. And we won those. But what did we do to win those elections? Well, there was about 40, 50 activists from all over the country on the street almost every day. These efforts were massive! It wasn’t one or two people leafleting. These efforts were massive! And this took us through to 2004, and the European election.

Now, the European election was going to be big for us. This was where Nick Griffin was meant to be elected to the European Parliament, and he didn’t. It was a disaster and it knocked the wind out of our sails. The party was nearly destroyed then. Why? Safety valve! UKIP came out of nowhere, took a load of our votes. Nick Griffin missed out and the party went into this deep malaise, this deep depression.

There were a number of councillors elected that year, that softened the blow. But Richard Barnbrook narrowly missed out on the GLA as well. All of this was very, very difficult for our people. All of this made things a huge knock and the party did falter. I remember the aftermath of the 2004 European election. The party was on the brink of just going down the pan. It was absolutely terrible! And it did start to falter. And straightaway we went into the 2005 general election and that was not great either. The 2005 general election was not great either. But something saved the party. Two things.

Firstly, there was the there was a number of terrorist attacks committed by second generation migrants, migrants that were born here. And this had been something that the party had predicted and Nick Griffin himself had predicted in speeches. This caused people to start talking about the BNP.

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But then also myself and Nick Griffin were arrested. And that made absolutely huge national news and it caused outrage! The party was in the headlines again. People were talking about us being the ones that predicted these terror attacks. People were talking about the fact that we were being arrested for basically speaking the truth and we were never out of the press.

And that took us to 2006, Barking and Dagenham. And this was the BNP’s best ever year in terms of electoral results at local level. The party was flying high. Everyone was talking about Islamic migrant terrorism. Everybody was talking about Nick Griffin and Mark Collett and the free speech trial and this persecution. More people than ever were reading our website, wanting to know what we were doing. And Margaret Hodge went out campaigning and Barking and Dagenham. She was told by numerous people that were voting BNP. And she went into some rage fueled rant on TV saying:

“Eight out of ten people in this area considering voting BNP. I don’t know what’s gone wrong!”

I remember designing the leaflets for that campaign with Richard Barnbrook in a studio flat he used to live in Leeds. It was tiny. He slept on a fold out sofa, I slept on the bed. We were up from sort of like eight in the morning designing these leaflets. And they were massive, expensive, glossy, a four leaflets. And it was a real ethno-nationalist message on them.

The top picture was London on VE day. The parties at VE day, all White, then Barking and Dagenham, a market in the present day, just full of Muslims and other migrants. And it said:

“This is what London was, this is what it’s become. Is this what you voted for?”

And people voted BNP en masse. Overnight, we went from no councillors to being the official opposition on Barking council. I think we stood 13 seats, and twelve of those councillors got elected. If we’d have stood in every seat, well, it would have just been unbelievable! We were the official opposition, and Richard Barmbook and Bob Bailey, who were down there. One was in charge of Barking, Richard, and one was in charge of Dagenham, Bob. They were cock of the hoop! It was fantastic! It was absolutely a brilliant time!

Moving into 2007, though, our votes started to drop off a little bit. And this is where reality hit in. You know, you’d gone through 2002, you’d grown on that. In 2003, you’d have the by-electionsc also we built on it in Burnley. It gave people real confidence and we won more seats in Burnley in 2003. 2004, we won more councillors. But the European election was a disaster for us.

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But then there was this massive boost in publicity. There was Barking and Dagenham, there was councillors getting elected, it seemed, left, right and centre all over the country because of this publicity boost.

But 2007, things were different. Things started to slow down and the enemy had got a real measure of the BNP. So 2007 was the first year we actually started to see BNP candidates lose seats. So some got re-elected, but some start to lose their seats because the other parties ganged up on them. Hope Not Hate leafleted against them. And over time you could see this was a war of attrition. And we all thought that once we got councillors in an area, it would be constant growth. But it wasn’t. We started to see slightly lower votes. The free speech trial was still going on, but it was running it’s course. People weren’t buzzing about it anymore. Things were going a little bit downhill and we lost seats.

People like Jim Lewthwaite and Arthur Redfern, who’d been elected in 2004, lost their seats in 2007. And people were like:

“That’s really disappointing!”

We also saw a number of defections. We saw people throw in the towel when this happened. And things looked really a little bit less sure of itself. And this massive high that we saw Barking and what we thought was gonna be the beginning of the forever of just upward cycling, it wasn’t anymore. It just wasn’t.

And then we went into 2008.

Now, 2008 was a funny year because Richard Barnbrook did get elected to the GLA with 5.4%, which was massive news. But on the council seat side, the council growth had really slowed. And I told you we’d become a party of by-elections. We’re doing very well at these by-elections. We were bussing in 40, 50 activists to win these by-elections. And I used to go down, Nick Griffin would go down, other people would go down, we’d all be knocking on doors. It would be fantastic!

But those seats started to dry up. And the last ever by-election win came in 2008. And that was actually Paul Golding. He won a seat. I think it was in., … Was it Sevenoaks? Was it Sevenoaks? Was it Stevenage? I can’t, … It began with “S”.

But anyway, he won a seat then, but that was the last council by-election we ever won was in 2008. But people were still happy because Barnbrook got elected. It was 5.4%. I designed the Mayoral insert, and we used the same leaflet we used in 2006. So me and Richard Barmbert, we designed a sort of a take on this leaflet that done really well, that showed London on VE Day and London in the modern day. And we asked people all over London, you know:

“How’s it going?”

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And I remember we used to travel down and we would have, you know, 100 to 200 activists out on the streets over a single weekend. All the members of staff would travel down, Griffin would go down and activists from all over the country. Some would come on the Saturday, some would come on the Sunday. I remember my dad coming down with a Carload from the east Mids. So on the Sunday you’d have a different team than on the Saturday. It was absolutely massive! And we were putting out tens and tens of thousands of leaflets and Barnbrook snuck in. He needed 5%, he got 5.4%. It was fantastic!

And that kind of papered over these cracks. And these cracks were that the council election wins were getting fewer and further between, but now we were winning on this big stage, so that papered over the cracks.

And this continued into the 2009 Euro election. The 2009 Euro elections were massive because obviously Andrew Brons was actually the first to be elected. He won his seat slightly earlier than Nick Griffin. And I was there at the count and the elation to be at an election count where a BNP candidate wins an actual seat at the European Parliament was brilliant!

And I remember being really cocky and I remember that Andrew Brons took the seat from a Labour politician and as he was leaving, I can’t remember his name now. I remember shouting to him:

“Hey, mate, don’t forget your P45 on the way out!”

And all of our guys were roaring with laughter, we were so happy. And then Nick Griffin got elected a few hours afterwards when his count. We had two MEPs and this was national news, we finally had people elected on a national scale.

And this again papered over the cracks a little. We were winning these PR elections with quite low votes, sometimes with in margins, but we weren’t winning the council seats anymore. And it seemed a long time since Golding was elected and we were doing well, like we were in previous years. In previous years, you know, we won by-elections in Heckmondwike, in [word unclear]. Heckmondwike is near Huddersfield. It’s in Kirklees. We won in Heckmondwike. We won in Blackburn. You know, we won by-elections in Halifax. But they were getting few and far between now. We just weren’t doing the business. The days of by-election wins in London boroughs were gone. We just weren’t doing that. But the European seats seemed great!

But then 2010 came.

Now, remember what I said earlier about football matches and turnout and people watching? Just remember that. Because this happened. We had won all these low turnout elections, or when there were quirks of the system, like there were in Burnley, and we’d won at these PR elections where we only needed 5.4% or 4.5% to get someone in.

But when it came to the general election and there was this huge boost in turnout, remember I said earlier, remember this bit! Because it came to bite the BNP on the arse. Not only did we perform disastrously at the general election with the higher turnout, but every single councillor that was up for re election on that day was hit by the higher turnout, and they all lost. Bar one!

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There was a guy in Pendle called Brian Parker. He was the only person in the whole country to keep his seat. Everyone else lost theirs. And it was catastrophic! You know, those twelve seats embarking in Dagenham, all gone in one single day. We went from being the official opposition to not having a single seat.

Chris Beverley in Leeds. Boy, I’ve never met a guy that’s worked harder than him. Chris Beverley would do his work for the party in the morning. By early afternoon, he was out leafleting or selling papers. By late afternoon, and just after tea, he was knocking on doors. There were leafleting teams when it was bad weather, because no one wanted to knock on doors when it was bad weather. That guy literally worked every day of the week to get elected in Morley South.

And what happened? What happened? He lost his seat in 2010 because of the increased turnout. And it was a complete collapse. The BNP, which had once at its height, had these know 57 councillors, GLA member and two MEPs. The councillors were just absolutely swept away! It took the steam out of the party, and the party went into a complete tailspin.

And by the time it came round to the European elections in 2014, there was only Nick Griffin and maybe one or two councillors left. Everything had gone. Richard Barnbrook had defected, Andrew Brons had defected. The party had split several times and it was over! It was all gone. It was all ruined!

And I can tell you this now. I’m not going to sit here on the stream and cry or moan or weep, but it was gut wrenching to see everything that had been built and all those hard won victories just washed away, like that! Just gone, finished! It was over. It was a disaster! It was a disaster!

And I look back at it now and it seemed like we were on the cusp of power. As a young man, with my whole life ahead of me, I genuinely thought, we as a party, are on the cusp of victory! And we, as a party, are going to win, in that air, you know, we’re going to win! We’re going to take. We are going to take the whole thing! And we didn’t. It was over.

And, you know what? Do you want me to be really honest with you? Well, there’s no point being anything other than honest. I look back on it now. We had 57 counsellors out of 19,000. We had a member on the GLA and we had two MEPs. It was massive!

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But in the grand scheme of things, it was probably nothing more than sort of a large beetle climbing up an elephant’s leg and giving it a nip. That’s all it was.

And that makes me sad, because I worked for a decade of my life. I gave my best. Best years of your life are probably between your 20th birthday and your 30th. [chuckling] Trust me! If I look back and if I could go back in time and sort of relive bits of my life, I’m pretty sure the bits I relive are all in those ten years. [chuckling] They were good times. And I gave those years to the BNP. And I did my best. I played my part.

I’m still here playing my part. I’m not going anywhere unless they kill me or put me in jail. And if they put me in jail, I’ll come out and I’ll still be here.

But the point is, I gave my best and so did many people. But everything was washed away with one bad election.

And that’s how fragile it is if you were to draw an analogies, and you guys know, I love my analogies, it’s a bit like a sandcastle on the beach. You know, I’ve got to say this. It was like that. It was like those kids that spend all day and they build this multi tiered sandcastle and they put the shells on and the seaweed, and they’ve got a moat, and one big wave comes and it’s gone! That was it. And all that’s left is just this little sort of hump where you can say:

“Was there a sandcastle there a while ago?”

And there was. Brian Parker was still there, and that was it. That was it. The party was just gone!

And I wonder, could that be replicated today? Well, the reality check is this. Not only was it really not that considerable, when you look at the 19,000 counsellors, 70 something MEPs, the 20 GLA members and all the bodies, we didn’t get people elected to, Parliament, the Welsh assembly, the Scottish Parliament, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera! And now there’s the police commissioners and the directly elected Mayors and all the other places you didn’t get anyone elected to.

The reality check is, first, were we actually as big as we thought we were?

And secondly, can we be replicated? Are things different now? And, yeah, they are.

Back in the BNP days, you know, people weren’t losing their job for saying they voted BNP.

Back in the BNP days, there wasn’t the stigma that there is now.

Back in the BNP days, demographics were better. You know, London was over 50% White British. Now it’s 36.8%. You know, the BNP took 5.4%. The only ethno-nationalist candidate, the candidate that stood you, the ethno-nationalist candidate, that did stand for the GLA, his Mayoral insert looked pretty much the same as Barnbrook, very similar to Barnbrook’s all the way back in 2008. But he got 0.8%. He got maybe a 6th of what Richard’s vote was. This tells you things have changed.

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We’re never getting in some of these places. We’re never winning in Barking and Dagenham. I doubt we’d ever win now in seats in Bradford where we’ve won before, places like Keighley. What’s the situation today in Burnley? You know, as I said, London, it’s gone!

So could that small series of victories actually ever be replicated? I don’t know. I don’t know! And for it to be replicated, what would we need? Because, you know, never before has there been this ethnic mix. Never before has there been this sort of drive to weed nationalists out of everywhere to send Prevent* round to their houses for talking about demographics. There’s never been this much pressure. And there’s never been this few White Britons to vote for us. Can it be replicated? I don’t know! But set to everything I’ve said tonight, I think there’s a lot to be taken in here and you get to decide.

[* About Prevent: Prevent is a national programme that aims to stop people from becoming terrorists or supporting terrorism. It works to ensure that people who are susceptible to radicalisation are offered appropriate interventions, and communities are protected against radicalising influences. Radicalisation can happen when a person develops extreme views or beliefs that support terrorist groups or activities. There are different types of terrorism, and Prevent deals with all of them. The most common types of terrorism in the UK are Extreme Right-Wing terrorism and Islamist terrorism. Source: UK Gov]

Now, finally, I’ve got one last small point before I do the questions and answers. Things are different in Europe. And people keep saying this, well, why are things different in Europe? There’s a few reasons, and I’m going to run over them shortly.

In a lot of European countries, there’s proportional representation. You have regional bodies. You know, the MPD in Germany elected to regional bodies. You know, the AfD in Germany elected to regional bodies. You know, some people say:

“There’s less political stability in Europe because all of the countries in Europe have, one time or another, lost a war or been occupied.”

Britain hasn’t. Britain hasn’t been occupied in that way. That way it’s government, it’s political system, it’s establishment has never lost it’s legitimacy in the same way that the French have, in the same way that the Italians have. The Germans have. These huge world events have an effect on the national consciousness. There’s not a revolutionary mentality in England, Scotland and Wales. We did have an English Civil War, and then we reversed that and begged our king back.

You know, in France, it was a revolution sort of every five or six years at one point, and they’ve still got that in them. Just look at the Yellow Vests. You know, it’s the same with Germany. Germany has always been a loose sort of Confederacy of provincial powers, if you like. You know, Prussia is a perfect example of that you know, the Prussians never truly saw themselves as German.

And that’s why across Germany, you will tend to find that certain regional bodies vote completely differently and are represented completely differently to others. You’ve also got the fact that half of Germany within living memory fell under Soviet rule. And East Germany votes completely differently to West Germany. We know these things.

There’s been different factors that have affected the national consciousness of those people, but Britain has never had that. We’re an island nation. We have been largely unaffected by these things.

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And as such, we are stuck in this pattern, isolated on a little island, stuck within, so that the liberal Democratic milieu that I’ve discussed earlier. So we do not have in our country electoral system conducive to change. We’ve got the two party system. You know, we have these safety valves. Other countries, they’re different. They’re different. And we could spend all night explaining this.

I’m not going to go into this in detail, but things are different in Europe for different reasons.

Anyway, that’s really all I have to say, and I hope you really enjoyed the stream. I’m going to do the questions and answers now. We’re going to fly through them because obviously we’re coming up to 2 hours. I didn’t realise I’d been speaking too long, but I hope you’ve enjoyed this. It’s been a bit of a lecture. I do like doing these streams and I hope you feel that you’ve got value for watching tonight.

Anyway, we’ve got some very generous Superchats, so I’m going to start over on Odysee now. Beer Hall Pooch gave 1488. Thank you so much! And said:

“Hail Mark. I put my money where my mouth is. Me and Pete Rushton says leading nationalists need to meet privately to figure out a new way forward. Ideas, strategy, tactics on the table. We are now messing around with outdated positions. We’re not saving all Whites. Please discuss important.”

Look, I would happily meet at one of these things and happily discuss things, but solutions have to be multifaceted. You know, from my point of view, I’ve always said community building has to come first. I kept saying we live in a world of minority wins! Why do you think Muslims win at elections? Muslims aren’t the majority, but if there’s 10% of Muslims in an area where there’s a 50% turnout and all of them turn out all of a sudden, that’s a 20% block vote. That’s enough to swing an election.

So all the candidates have to go to that Muslim and offer him something, and whoever offers him the most wins the election. White people don’t organise like that.

And the first thing we have to do as White people, if we’re going to win elections like the Muslims do, like other minority groups do, is we have to build a community. I’ve been saying since the outset, at Patriotic Alternative, that we need to build communities! We need to build. And part of those building communities is owning land, owning buildings, you know, moving together, living together. There’s so many things that can be said, and this isn’t the stream for it, but we need to organise our people! And then we can win elections. We can’t win elections with atomized, isolated, lost individuals who don’t act as a group.

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The reasons Muslims win elections is because they’re not isolated, they’re not lost, they’re not atomized, they still stick together! We are lost as a people! We have to find ourselves first, guys. If you put elections before community, you’re putting the cart before the horse. Community has to come before elections. The times when Whites have stuck together, say, like the miner strikes, what was that built on? It was built on community.

Eddie gave $20. Thank you so much, my friend. He said:

“Thanks for the stream, Mark.”

Well, thank you, my friend. Albion Forever made a statement. He said:

“Hi, Mark. Would it be suspicious for a party to get registered when the Electoral Commission are aware that they have been breaking the law?”

I know what this is in reference to. Look, it’s emerged that one of these recent parties to get elected, there was a Freedom of Information request. One of the parties that recently got registered, it’s been revealed by a Left-wing source that did a Freedom of Information request that the Electoral Commission was aware that that party was breaking rules, laws and had members that had shared terrorist documents but still allowed them to be registered. It is suspicious.

Albion Forever also said:

“Hi, Mark. Did, you know, that the Fairchild A10 Thunderbolt two has a single 30 millimetre gatling cannon and two general electric turbines? When it fires it’s gun and puts it’s engines to full, it will actually accelerate backwards. That’s how powerful it is.”

Thank you. British Gammon gave $25.

Thank you so much for your generosity. Great to see you again here tonight, my friend. He said:

“In the absence of a nationalist candidate, would it be better to encourage people to turn up and spoil their ballot rather than vote tactically or not vote at all? And would the establishment even care if thousands of people voted, ‘None of the above’?”

Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! British Gammon is on the money! Look, if there’s no one in your area, spoil your ballot. And that might sound childish, but it’s not. It still counts!

Imagine if tomorrow we lived in an area where there was 10,000 people and there was a 50% turnout. So that’s 5,000 people voting and 6,000 of the 5,000 people voting. And 60% of those people, you know, 3,000 people went and just wrote “none of the above”. Okay, nobody gets elected off that. But the media would have to report that happened. That is a statistic that gets recorded. That would be something that causes waves. And look, when that has been tried, the media does report it. People talk about it. You know, if 60%, 3,000 people on that 50% turnout of that 10,000 voters did do something like that, that would create waves. Never ever just stay at home.

Because if you stay at home, you’re basically saying:

“I don’t have a voice!”

Use your voice in any way you can. I have always voted when I’ve had the chance and I’ve always done something, even if it is just spoil my ballot.

Getting very hot here tonight [having a drink].

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But yeah, British Gammon is 100% correct. And he’s knocked it out of the park! Do always do something, never do nothing, even if it’s something small. Antimatter gave $40.12. Thank you so much! And he said:

“Donation.”

Well thank you kindly, Stan one gave $14 and said:

“Donation again.”

Thank you kindly. Albion Forever said:

“Interestingly, in Ireland, which has a revolutionary oppressed mentality, we don’t see that translating into electoral changes, but instead into huge protests.”

Well, look, I’ll settle for huge protests at the moment! Would you not sell for huge protest? Huge protests would be a step forward forward! Albion Forever said:

“Do you agree that the Muslim vote swung the vote for George Galloway in Rochdale?”

Well, of course they did. One dollars from BaleBreach said:

“Stevenson said he would vote Galloway. So that’s me and him. Tollah and Arab Social Nationalists are sympathetic. Are we all nuts, mate?”

Look, vote for people who are against the establishment or people who are perceived to be against the establishment. You know, I’ve already said, I would vote for anybody who is against those establishment parties as long as they’re not pro-immigration. It’s as simple as that.

And if you can’t vote for anyone, spoil your ballot paper!

Oh, and by the way, the BitChute stream is working. There’s eight people watching us there. It’s a start. [chuckling] It’s a start.

So thank you, BitChute. That is nice to see.

Now we’re going to go over to the Entropy Superchats. We always do them in this order. VM gave $10. Thank you so much! And he said:

“With all the mixed results, I’d say it’s still important to stand candidates without breaking the bank. As election time is prime time to raise issues. It also applies pressure to establish parties to move the Overton Window our way, building accessible bridge to the nationalist future.”

That’s a good point. Look, I’m not saying we shouldn’t stand any candidates.

What I’m saying is we have to put community building first. We have to put community building first! And if we don’t put community building first, we’re in trouble. But if we move to the same areas, if we organised, if we bought property or land and we actually build community, we could stand in a limited number of seats, get people elected and govern our own affairs. There’s nothing to stop that. And if there are elections which are good for us, so say somebody say a Labour Party candidate got taken to court and sent to jail for being part of a grooming gang or something like that, where it’s expedient for us to use the electoral system. We should do. We shouldn’t cut off the electoral route altogether. I don’t believe that. But putting all our eggs in that basket, as you can tell, it’s difficult.

VM gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

“The great issue with tactical voting is that once Labour get in, the media will enforce the propaganda. The people of Great Britain voted against the racism of the Tories. Our electoral system is our voice box with a deliberate handicap.”

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Thank you so much! Britannia’s reckoning gave $3. Thank you so much! Said:

“Capitalism has been a far more powerful weapon for Zionists than communism. The sooner nationalists start bashing capitalism as much as they bash communism, we make progress.”

I’ll bash capitalism and communism all day. Throughout my entire political life, I’ve always said they are two sides of a same anti-White coin! Britannia’s reckoning gave $3 thank you so much! And said:

“The key to electoral victory is a party Left-wing on economics and Right-wing on immigration and culture. The closest at the moment is the SDP.”

Well, I agree with you again, but the SDP get disastrous results! VM gave $3 thank you so much! Said:

“Our biggest drawback is no unanimous, agreed local plan. Split the Nationalist Party’s independent safety valve, RVP and spoil vote. We must ensure clear issues from focus community direction on each seat.”

We do! But the fact is, nationalism is riven by splits! It’s riven by splits, it’s riven by infighting, it’s riven by egos!

You know, when I started PA, the wholeidea of PA was anyone could come on board and do activism their way. I say to people:

“It’s up to you. It’s up to you. How do you want to do your PA work?”

If you want to do.

If you want to do electoral work, do electoral work, I’ll support you.

If you want to do community politics, I’ll support you.

If you want to do fitness and health, I’ll support you.

If you want to do gaming nights, art nights, music nights, you know, beer and burger nights at the barbecue, do what you want, as long as you’re doing something nationalist. Litter picks, great! Camping and hiking, great! I said that to people and what happened? People got their knickers in a twist because I wasn’t doing exactly what they wanted me to do and they stormed off and formed their own little tiny groups and then failed.

Why? Why do that? They did that because they had to be in charge, and they believed that everything had to be done their way! I think we need PA and I think we need an umbrella group. Where people can do things.

So if you want to do a book club, come to PA and do PA Book Club. You want to do fitness, you want to do going out and getting fit and training with young lads, join PA Fitness. You know, you want to put out leaflets. We back independent candidates, we do this! It’s got to be a multifaceted approach where everyone can play their part in the way they want to. These petty squabbles over minor differences and ego driven micro parties are terrible! They’ve dogged nationalism for decades, and the people running them should be ashamed of themselves.

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You know, I’ve said to everyone:

“Come here, stand under this banner, do it the way you want to do it, and we can all stand together.”

People don’t want that they want to run their own little thing and it’s not working out. Britannia’s Reckoning gave $3. Thank you so much, said:

“Reform winning a London assembly seat is decent. Giving the demographics Reform may have a million or two, but the Lib Lab Con have a hundred times that!”

Thank you so much! Britannia’s Reckoning gave $3:

“The British Democrats say they received the most votes out of any nationalist party, but some of these parties need to merge. What’s your relationship like with them?”

I think they. When they say they won the worst votes, I think they got about 300 or something. And they discounted the English Democrats, who took 45,000 in Robin’s [Tilbrook] seat.

So, you know what’s that? They didn’t! They didn’t! And it amounts to a hill of beans. David Peterson gave $10. Thank you so much! He said:

“Tell us what you think about Griffin on Question Time. As someone who worked in a supportive capacity to him before such a humiliating experience, no offence, my friend, but you were head of publicity at time. Did he just ignore your advice? How did the pre-event prep play out?”

I’ll answer this question, although it’s going to create drama, because he’s not going to like my answer and he will be upset.

But the fact is, Nick Griffin’s Question Time performance was probably the worst, single worst thing to happen to the BNP. It was a turning point in the BNP’s history! It was basically the only time that the nationalist has ever been allowed on Question Time. And it was the greatest fumbling of the ball that I’ve ever seen!

And it was largely down to the fact that over time, Nick Griffin had become too complacent in his debating skills, in his ability to put himself over. He was too used to speaking to captive audiences, or to small time radio hosts and on smaller shows. It was basically like a boxer who had gone round and knocked everyone out in local gyms, in nightclubs, in county fairs, and then was given a shot at the title.

And although he thought he was great and thought he didn’t have to do much more, he had to do a lot more.

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And I remember clearly in the time running up to Nick Griffin going on Question Time, people urged a number of things. There was people who urged that he prepared, that we got him into better shape, both physically and mentally. I suggested that he started going to the gym more. He tidied himself up a little bit. He didn’t like that suggestion. He won’t like me talking about that. But I said:

“Look, you’re in the European Parliament. You got the access to probably the best gym in the whole of Europe. You should use it. You need to tidy yourself up, you need to go out there looking smarter than you’ve ever looked.”

He didn’t like that. He said:

“Didn’t have time for that.”

And I said to him, you know, personally, like I was his friend, I didn’t say this out of nastiness. I said:

“Look you need to have some mock runs at this. You know, you need to get 10, 12 people in a room with you and people to talk to you and throw your questions and go through everything so you’re ready.”

And other people were like:

“No, no, no! He’s the boss. He’s the boss! He doesn’t need that. He’s the best!”

And he listened to them. There were other people. I remember a guy called Lee Barnes, who was his legal adviser at the time. He told him not to go on to call in sick, sending Andrew Brons as a replacement at the last minute, because they’d have to put Brons on the TV. And they wouldn’t have the same dirt on Brons they had on Gryphon. I thought that was a bad idea.

And Gryphon basically went in there green. He went in there green. He went in there without the correct training, without looking as smart as he could, without being the man that he needed to be.

And I’ll draw, not an analogy, I’ll just put forward an example of somebody who did this. Apparently, when Tony Blair first went on Question time, before he became Prime Minister, the Labour Party the weekend before, took him to a hotel and they basically stayed in a hotel and they took him into a conference room and for the entire weekend, they broke him down, they abused him, they threw questions at him. They absolutely mauled him for a weekend! And when he came out, he could answer everything, every smear, every piece of crap thrown at him. He knew what to say if the Tories on there threw something at him, he was ready.

And when he went on Question Time, he knocked it out the park! And the rumours are that before he went on Question Time, he was so nervous because they’d been grilling him all weekend that he was actually sick in the green room in a bin before he went out there! And I’ll say this, I’m not saying you should go out for your big moment as a nervous wreck, because that’s not great! But a few nerves, a few butterflies in your tummy are better than overconfidence.

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And I believe that Nick Griffin was massively overconfident. He refused to prepare, he refused to improve himself physically or mentally before it. And he was listening to people who were blowing smoke up his arse, who were telling you he was the best of the best of the best of the best! And that no one could get the better of him, and that he knew his trade better than everyone, no one could do better.

And he went out there and he choked and it was a disaster! And he will now say in response this:

“It wasn’t. It was the best thing ever! The BNP were on 20% of the national vote after it, because it was so great!”

That’s not true. It’s nonsense! It shattered the BNP. And I’ll explain why it shattered the BNP at the time that happened.

At the time that happened, it was, how can I say this? Basically, there is one group of people. Towards the end of the 1970s and beginning of the 1980s, the traditional class divide of working class and middle class began to break down. And that happened and accelerated with the end of the miner’s strike, the destruction of the union. And we ended up moving to a country which has what is called “Middle England”. Middle England are the broad middle class. They’re not the upper class, they’re not the super rich. They’re people who own their own homes, have a stake in society. They want their kids to do better than they did. They usually work in good jobs or run their own businesses, and they’ve got something to fight for!

And that Middle England vote were the people who voted Thatcher in, who then rejected the Tories and voted Blair in, then booted Labour out. They have been the people that have always swung general elections. When Middle England move, when, and I’m not saying middle class, I’m saying Middle England. I’m saying these broad middle block of owner occupiers. You know, the White van man. The guy runs his own business. The guy’s got a bit of a stake in society. When they vote, when they vote, they’re the ones that swing elections. And that is a fact.

And those people have never been involved in nationalism, or have been involved in nationalism hesitantly. But the BNP got those people involved. They started to make inroads, they started to attract people that were friends with my parents. People who first were disgusted when they found out that I joined the BNP, were finally saying:

“Well, actually, Mark’s got a point, Carol, Morris, I think your lad might be right. I’ve just dropped around with a little donation. Please put it in the coffers. I’m definitely voting for you, Carol, if you stand in this area again.”

Those people were coming on board. They came on board and they opened the BNP up to a wider audience. And that’s when the BNP was rising. That was when it was in its ascendancy. And that’s what tipped the BNP over the edge, especially in the Euro elections, on these big regional lists, because Middle England were coming on board. We weren’t just the party of the estates anymore.

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And Chris Bev really saw that in Morley South. He was a guy who became the King of the new build estate, where there’s the self employed window cleaner, the guy who runs his own electrician’s business, the local plumber. They owned their own new build houses and they were voting for Chris. This was a big swing. This changed everything.

And I’ll tell you this now, those people swing general elections, and they were coming on board with the BNP. And that Question Time was the thing that scared them off. They were tentatively dipping their toe in our pond and saying:

“We like this. We want a bit of this.”

And I’ll tell you, this is just anecdotal, but I remember my dad saying to me that there was a guy that lived on his street that always used to, when he went past, because my dad used to be into biking and would always go cycling on Sunday morning, and he’d always stop by and they’d always give him a wave. And if he was walking down the street, he’d always, you know, talk to him:

“Oh, Morris, have you got the latest Voice of Freedom for me? How’s it going?”

And he walked past him. After that Question Time, my dad was like:

“Hi, mate, how you doing?”

And the guy just said:

“It wasn’t good, was it, Morris?”

And that was it.

That was it! The guy never took a Voice of Freedom again. He didn’t really want to know. That was it. And these people were turned off by that. And unfortunately, it was a body blow! The party didn’t collapse overnight. The sort of support, the traditional nationalist support, remained intact. But that Middle England vote that were coming on board, it scared them off.

And that was just before, obviously, the 2010 general election. And the 2010 general election, that Question Time appearance and the problems in the party at the time, the personal issues, the fractures, the issues over where large sums of money had disappeared from and the fact the party were in debt, all of that sort of came together and that was it. Post, 2010, it was over!

So I hope that was a good explanation.

David Peterson gave $5. Thank you so much! He said:

“I know we spoke before about this, but you’re on a good one tonight. How do you feel about Young Nazi and Proud? Also, do you think the stigma was different back then, hence Young Nazi and Proud?”

Stigma was totally different. Look, you couldn’t make a documentary like Young Nazi and Proud today.

So when I’ve been on Young Nazi and Proud, I’m not saying it was a good thing, because it wasn’t. And it dogs me to this day. And, look, I feel embarrassed about that. For me, it’s like water of a duck’s back. So I laugh it off now. I treat it like it’s all fun and games. And I get enough people. I’ve enough people over the years come up to me in bars, pubs, clubs in the street, ask to hug me, ask for a selfie. I’ve had girls come up to me and give me a kiss over it. It’s been great in, some respects.

It’s also been bad and it’s something that I’ve had to laugh off uncomfortably at times.

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So there’s been good and bad. But that documentary of a young lad who’s a bit of an edgy Nazi, was played some for laughs, some seriously, some tragedy. Some of it made me look like a bit of a fool! Some of it made me look like, very dedicated. Some of it made me look a bit weird, some of it probably made me look a bit brave, some of it I looked quite multifaceted. And yes, some of it was embarrassing.

But I’ll tell you this, that couldn’t be made today. You couldn’t call a lad Young Nazi and Proud on a documentary and play that like it was played. The guy would be getting his door kicked in! It’s a completely different situation now. The term “Nazi” that carries different connotations. You know, back when they did Young Nazi and Proud you could go to music gigs where there were certain fruity, [chuckling] you know, flags from a foreign regime that existed in the 1930s. People would sell CDs. All that’s been cracked down on. Things are different now. Things are very different!

But yeah, it has affected my life.

But I don’t think anyone could do a documentary like that now and play it the way it was the person who had that documentary made about them today wouldn’t be called a young radical, you know, political thinker who was played as maybe odd, a bit insecure at times, which obviously I was in my early twenties and I said some stuff that I’m not proud of but the fact is if you made that documentary today, it wouldn’t be Young Nazi and Proud. They would literally be saying:

“That young lad was a terrorist!”

That’s where the goalposts have moved

VM gave $3. Thank you so much! Said:

“With all the thoughts I made aside, this is exactly why the PA model works. It’s a dynamic vehicle that endures the ebbs and flows of elections on a community level. Great and informative stream. Thank you so much!”

David. Peace. And gave another $5. Thank you very much. Said:

“One’s in the chat to buy a house in the ethno-nationalist cul de sacs. Two for no. Everyone comes to the ethno-nationalist cul de sac!”

Look, people know where I live. I actually said to people:

“Come and live on the estate I live, there was houses up for sale.”

I even offered people small loans to help them buy houses in this area. People didn’t want it. People didn’t want it. That’s the problem. Nationalists don’t want to move to the same area. And every nationalist I’ve asked to come to this area and live near me have always said no, no, I won’t because my family live here and I’m not moving away from them.”

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And then other people said:

“Well, I want to go and live here because it’s my dream to go and live this other side of the country.”

Or:

“I don’t want to live in this kind of area. I want to go and buy a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere.”

That’s their prerogative. But getting nationalists to agree on something like an ethno cul de sac is virtually impossible! But I would love all of you guys to come and live on my street. Mainly because I’ve just perfected cooking chips in a variety of different animal fats. I’ve been trying with lard, and I really need friends in this area to come. Come to my house, eat my homemade burgers and eat my homemade, traditionally cooked hand cut chips! Because I need feedback, guys. I need feedback! Come and live on my estate and we’ll be barbecuing every weekend.

We’ve got two Superchats here from hedgehog 82. Gave $2 both times. Thank you so much! Said:

“People haven’t even got the brain cells to ask themselves why. Why does the government borrow money with interest when they can print interest free money? Like why the government is in two trillion’s worth of debt?”

Yeah, good point. So Much Need, another $2, and said:

“People are unaware most of the tax they pay is just paying down the interest on government borrowed money. A certain German man removed the central bankers and Germany became the most prosperous nation in Europe.”

Hedgehog, you may be spiky, but you’re not wrong. David Peterson gave $5. Thank you so much! He said:

“Are you still friends with the journalists from Young Nazi and Proud?”

This is really interesting, actually. No, I’m not. [chuckling] But he did contact me when I left the BNP and said:

“Would you like to do a follow up documentary?”

And basically what he wanted me to do is say that I was repudiating my past. And I was like, I would happily talk about where my life has gone wrong or where I think my life could have gone better or how could I have made better choices. But I’m never repudiating nationalism and I’m never standing up there and saying:

“That the things I said that were ideologically were all wrong!”

You know, people might say:

“Oh, well, what did you say that time in your car when you were depressed because your girlfriend was late?”

Whatever. You know, young lads say daft things, but I’m not going back on my political points. I’m never going back on those.

And he didn’t want that. He didn’t want Young Nazi and Proud Part II where I was sort of middle aged, you know., Still, still Nazi, and still Proud! [chuckling] he didn’t want that. He wanted a:

“This is how being sucked into a political organisation ruins a man’s life.”

And I don’t consider my life to be ruined. I don’t consider myself to be an unhappy person. I consider myself to be happier!

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One of the reasons why I spend such a huge portion of my time on the phone to people, helping people and talking to people about their problems and trying to boost people’s morale and do these community outreach things is because I want to spread happiness. I want other nationalists to live a good life.

And I’ve had a chequered past and yeah, I’ve had some mad times and maybe some bad times, but I’m still here. And generally speaking, I think I’m quite an upbeat and positive guy. That’s why I like doing these streams. That’s why I love holding the camps, that’s why I love going to the events, that’s why I love doing all these things with you people. That’s why I love this community. That’s why when I started PA, I wanted a movement like this. That’s why when we have one of these camps or when we have conference, I shake everyone’s hand coming in, I give everyone a hug before they go home, because I genuinely do love all you guys and I treat you like family.

Any guy, any of you who know me and have said, look, can I come to your house?”

You guys have all been invited to my house, out for dinner with me. And I’ve treated you all like brothers. I’ve treated you all like extended family. You know, my wife’s cooked for you, you’ve been welcome in your house, I’ve broken bread with you. That’s what I believe. I genuinely believe that it is community first. And I live that every day of my life.

And I suppose that’s the final message for this stream. I don’t think there’s any more Superchats. But oh, there is. There’s one more from Beer Hall Pooch. Thanks so much:

“BNP should have put Brons in at the last minute as a feint against the system. Lee Barnes, think what you will, suggested this.”

I said Lee Barnes suggested this and the [word unclear] agreed because we held Brons in high regard. He’s Third Position and has that cosy uncle demeanour that would’ve sold with the public.”

A lot of people said that at the time. My dad always maintains that.

But look, the takeaway from this is whatever you want to take away from this stream tonight. But my takeaway from this is always the same. If we’re going to win at the ballot box, which is very hard, it’s almost impossible, like I’ve just laid out. And even if you do win, just wait until one of those high turnout elections rolls around like a tsunami and washes away your sandcastle.

But before we do any of that, we need a community.

And that’s what I’ve spent the last five years of my life trying to do. I’ve put myself on the line, I put my family on to build this community because I believe in it.

And I’m not counting elections out.

But what I am saying is if you put all your eggs in that basket like nationalist parties have in the past, you’re not going to win! Because the system is designed so you don’t win! And the only small groups that do win are the ones that built a community first. And that’s what we must do.

So I just want to say thank you to everyone who tuned in. Thank you to everyone who’s with us. It’s been a long stream. I genuinely thank everyone who’s been here with me for 2 hours and ten minutes. It’s been a good one. I’ve really enjoyed it. I hope you’ve enjoyed it. I hope you’ve all learnt something. I hope you’ve got something out of it you want. I thank everyone who donated so generously as well, from the bottom of my heart, you guys have been extremely generous tonight. I couldn’t be more grateful.

And finally, I just want to say, if you are out doing activism this weekend, if you are out doing community outreach, if you’re out leaflet in for an election, whatever, you’re doing, good, good! But bear in mind, the foundation for victory is out there and we can see it. We can see it because other people have achieved victory. And that foundation is a solid one. It’s community, it’s coming together and it’s doing something that we can build upon. Don’t put the cart before the horse!

But do stay safe. Do have a good weekend, whatever you’re up to.

I’ll be back on Sunday with Warren Balogh for our film review. We’re reviewing The Long Good Friday. It’s his choice. Be there Sunday 07:00 pm If you want a light hearted stream. I hope you’ve enjoyed tonight. I really have. I love you all. Thank you for being part of this amazing community. I hope to see you all later in the year, at one of our community events. Thank you and good night, everyone. Love you all. See you soon.

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@katana17
1 day ago
Here’s the transcript of the video:

Mark Collett – Is the Electoral Route a Dead End? – May 10, 2024 – Transcript

@S.S.92
1 hour ago
Not in the US.

@takizakura123
22 hours ago
A non political council of Briton’s would have far more power politically than a fringe political party.

@NormanKing1066
1 day ago
Muslims have something that we don’t have, religious unity. Good luck getting that amongst white people who all think they know best.

@NormanKing1066
1 day ago
Need to take all the effort put into elections and put it into campaigning against democracy altogether. It doesn’t work, it will never work, people need to be told this truth whether they like it or not.
Until enough people accept the fact that voting will not remove the treasonous ruling class, nothing will ever change.

@NormanKing1066
1 day ago
Exact same issue here in Australia with the two party preferred system. A govt can take power with less than a third of the vote! Meanwhile millions of people vote for minor parties and get literally NO representation at all.
Worse, we are forced to give a “preference” so the govt can say “well people preferred us” but if someone says they’d prefer to drink piss than eat shit, that doesn’t mean they would ever willingly choose in 1000 years to drink piss!
You have to give parties a percentage of seats that represents the exact percentage of the vote that they get. Even then democracy doesn’t work, but at least people will actually have some semblance of representation!
We used to have the Senate (upper house) that tried to do this, but they even rigged that so it doesn’t happen anymore!
Democracy is a lie and a joke, it’s completely rigged, nuts to this system!

@NormanKing1066
1 day ago
Yes, it’s dead. /discussion
Seriously, people need to wake up. There is NO democratic/political solution, never was never will be.
If it was possible to vote out tyranny they wouldn’t let us vote.

@Aunt-Sally
1 day ago
Great stream. I had worked some of this out for myself but it’s great to hear you explain properly how it all works.

GusinLanzarote Alt Right
1 day ago(edited)
That was Brillante Mark- telling Griffin to work out before QT ‍He SHOULD have been in PEAK physical & mental form. Instead he came across as a greasy slimy dodgy incompetant fat little man THAT was the moment we lost initiative – like the Crusader states at Hattin in 1187, like Charles 1st at Marston moor in 1644 & like the Werhmacht outside Moscow in Dec 1941. From then on it was a defensive losing battle of attrition.Only ONE Nationalist has ever had the chance to address MILLIONS that man is Griffin. Worst of all he wont even apologize or admit he could have done better & let us all down that infamous night

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@Spectromancer
1 day ago
No, Willem de Oranje was your occupational government. Then came “Bank of England”. Parliament was bought and paid for ever since

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1 day ago
Ιf you are reading this Mark, please research what happened to the Golden Dawn in Greece.
The list of insults or violations of their supposed system is endless.
I can, with confidence say that voting is POINTLESS. You can’t vote yourself out of this regime, not possible.
It is all a charade

Earthling Carl
2 days ago
Unless they allow Patriotic Alternative or another true nationalist group to become a party I don’t see the point in voting. You’re just choosing a slower form of White genocide.

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Osric
1 day ago
You’re chosing to consent.

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@takizakura123
2 days ago(edited)
Obviously a dead end. If the natives started voting as a block the same as non natives the british ruling class would shut them down. What they fear most is community leading to organising which is why we need a representative council of Briton’s.

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@Spectromancer
2 days ago
I was actually living in Exeter when UKIP did the big distraction. Nick Griffin was portrayed as a knuckle dragging cave man. I’m not english so I didn’t really know any better. The propaganda won clearly.

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2 days ago
We here in the States LOVE you, Mark. May you NEVER give up the good fight. Deus vult.

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
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oceans
2 days ago
I don’t think it’s helpful to see “do community first” or “we must do X first” before electoral politics. the two aren’t mutually exclusive. why not emphasise community without knocking other kinds of outreach. maybe the two complement each other. when you say “we won’t find success until we first do X” you’re just giving people an excuse to not try on all fronts.

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2 days ago
God bless Mark, Thanks for the show

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2 days ago
cheerio

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
HAIL WARREN!

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
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Stan1
2 days ago
Really informative – have a great weekend all

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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Nice one, Mark. Tremenbdous honesty.

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2 days ago
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Speak your mind
2 days ago
Great stream Mark, thank you. wishing you all a good night.

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2 days ago
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Henry
2 days ago
thank you mark top man

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@BritishGammon
2 days ago
Great stream & chat. Night folks.

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Fearless sunshine
2 days ago
M :white_heart: C

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2 days ago
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2 days ago

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
He doesn’t hiug Pooch! Lol

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Eh
2 days ago
journo wanted a Jim.

Speak your mind
2 days ago
and you have become a good leader

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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Mark is always there for folk

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Henry
2 days ago
they love making those documentaries about people who have changed their views

danzimmons
2 days ago
he wanted to show a cuck

danzimmons
2 days ago
every western nation

Henry
2 days ago
usury is a sin

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@NormanKing1066
1 day ago
God says it’s a capital crime.

danzimmons
2 days ago
millions every day simply to house brown parasites

@noreplacement
2 days ago
beef dripping

danzimmons
2 days ago
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Henry
2 days ago
i need chips in tallow

danzimmons
2 days ago
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@WhiteLightKnight
2 days ago
Where is tbe area?

Henry
2 days ago
we now live in a country where men go to jail for stickers

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@noreplacement
2 days ago
Get swaziboob girl to get a photo with Keir Starmer

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
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@AlbionForever
2 days ago
If the BNP trial of 2006 happened today, they’d all be found guilty.

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1 day ago
IF ONLY the online Big Time 2015-19 had come along at the SAME time as the Real world BNP peak 2006-10 I have learnt SO MUCH from the online shows, debates etc had they been around in 2009 EVERY BNP soldier from Nick on QT to me in Biggin Hill with my leaflets on a sunday morning would have had 10× the arguments knowledge & powers of persuasión to break the Liberal spell most Normies are enslaved by

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@WhiteLightKnight
2 days ago
Zwaziboob is a legend

Henry
2 days ago
end stage liberalism

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Fascinating BNP history tonight. I was NF so didn’t know some of this

Eh
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
i disagree. foreigners pose a threat to all of us.

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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Yes, but the middle class are too comfortable

Eh
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
i dunno mate; nationalism is for everyone.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Mark has been impressive tonight

@WhiteLightKnight
2 days ago
This is a tremendous stream.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Spot on, Mark. I’ll say it’s the middle-class

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2 days ago

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People need to understand WW2. we fought the nationalist German’s for the jews and they have had an iron grip on us ever since. Hitler was for Germany for German’s. Churchill betrayed England fact

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@TimSeymour
2 days ago
Mark in QT would be something amazing!

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2 days ago

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People haven’t even got the brain cells to ask themselves why does the government borrow money with interest when they can print interest free money .like why are the government in 2 trillion debt.

Eh
2 days ago
killed off Chilton Enquiry on one day by doing all the interviews in one go.

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Griffin claims he deliberately went on QT to get beaten up and get sympathy support.

Stan1
2 days ago
QT nowadays is utter cows dung

Eh
2 days ago
Blair even knocked the Chilton Enquiry out of the park.

@TimSeymour
2 days ago
Such a shame

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
$1.00
BNP should have put in Brons at the last minute as a feint against the System. Lee barnes (think what you will) suggested this and the NF agreed cos we held Brons in high regard. He’s Third Position and has that cosy uncle demeanour that would have sold with public.

Eh
2 days ago
if it worked nice

@BritishGammon
2 days ago
Fascinating stream.

Stan1
2 days ago
And I utterly despise Blair

@noreplacement
2 days ago
NG failed due to his ego. Plus, he tried to appease instead of standing his ground and going on the offensive.

Eh
2 days ago
exactly!

Stan1
2 days ago
Best way

Henry
2 days ago
pepper him with negative questions

Eh
2 days ago
he sucked up to the black lady Bonnie something

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
He also threw you under the bus on QT. When he got challenged on something you said about Churchill, he said “he’s not our head of publicity”>

Speak your mind
2 days ago
Mark is brilliant.

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2 days ago
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Henry
2 days ago
even trump has those mock debate preps

Eh
2 days ago
mock runs is the best idea

Eh
2 days ago
mentally is the best

Eh
2 days ago
he was good on the BBC before then

oceans
2 days ago
Mark is right about Nick Griffin’s appearance. totally agree. Mark would have done much better.

Henry
2 days ago
i remember how that was hyped up so much

Eh
2 days ago
yes he flipped it all up

@AlbionForever
2 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
Oh yes lol

oceans
2 days ago
He didn’t do well in question time

@ReedJohnson
2 days ago

@Me
Indeed.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Good Q

Eh
2 days ago

@ReedJohnson
true. hard enough for us let along smaller parties.

Speak your mind
2 days ago
Brilliant stream tonight.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 days ago
well said

@MarkCollett

Henry
2 days ago
we’ve just got to get over minor disagreements the cause is too important

@ReedJohnson
2 days ago
The narcissism of small differences.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Even Mark says he’s “not in charge”. The membership are

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
The split was a good thing. Those people needed to leave.

Henry
2 days ago
petty squabbles over minor differences while our country is invaded

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Agreed. Too many cranks in Nationalism.

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
like libertarians moving to new hampshire

@NotBabyHitler88
2 days ago
its childish understanding of the world

@NotBabyHitler88
2 days ago
vooting is ridiculous

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2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Nice one, Mark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Henry
2 days ago
just dont vote labcondems

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
$1.00
Stevenson said he would vote Galloway, So that’s me and him. Tollah and Arab Soc Nat are sympathetic. Are with all nuts, mate?

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@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Let’s get Mark’s perspective on it.

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
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Do you agree that the Muslim vote block swung the vote for George Galloway in Rochdale?

Henry
2 days ago
do politicians care about spoiled ballots? i doubt it

Speak your mind
2 days ago
:joy: :joy:

Whyte
2 days ago

@ReedJohnson
2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
I would vote Galloway and Stevenson said he would too, Make of that what you will, mate.

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@AlbionForever
2 days ago
HAHAHAHAHA

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2 days ago
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2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
that can be enough to swing a vote, on a falling turnout amongst Whites.

@NotBabyHitler88
2 days ago
We do need to organize

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
IN a way, yes. But Muslims are only 20% in Rochdale so your theory doesn’t quite work

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@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
White people are divided politically

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2 days ago
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Speak your mind
2 days ago
100% agree

@NotBabyHitler88
2 days ago
Muslims aren’t banned from politics

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Muslims got George Galloway elected.

oceans
2 days ago
yo

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2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Nice one, Mark

@WhiteLightKnight
2 days ago
It’s a great stream.

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
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Interestingly in Ireland, which has a revolutionary/oppressed mentality, we don’t see that translating into electoral changes, but instead huge protests.

@NotBabyHitler88
2 days ago
Germany Nationalist party was outlawed. If we make political headway it will jist be outlawed

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2 days ago
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Henry
2 days ago
proportional rep is massive

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Interestingly in Ireland, which has a revolutionary/oppressed mentality, we don’t see that translating into electoral changes, but instead huge protests.

@CrankyCracker2
2 days ago
:fire:

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
East Germany is almost 1488

@BillAtheling
2 days ago

@TimSeymour
yes, articulate, sensible and honest

@TimSeymour
2 days ago
Superb presentation tonight Mark.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
We NEED a revolutionary mentality. The English are too fk weak.

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2 days ago
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Henry
2 days ago
there is a massive lack of courage in britain

@WhiteLightKnight
2 days ago

@baxter
It’s having impact now. Look at th3se Anti-Israel demonstrations

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Many of those countries have recent histories of revolutions and political upheavals as well.

oceans
2 days ago
there is plenty to be hopeful about too. not everything is doom and gloom. there is plenty we can do.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Tremendous honesty from Collett tonight

Speak your mind
2 days ago
Very well thought out Mark.

Henry
2 days ago
i wonder if the decline in mass media in next decade will have any impact

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago

@oceans
Fair point

oceans
2 days ago
I have no idea. Mark is just telling things as he sees it. I have always thought Mark was honest, even if I disagree with him. Doesnt mean his judgement and instincts are always right, though.

@noreplacement
2 days ago
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Fearless sunshine
2 days ago
Cucker Tarlson is a malicious Coward and very overpaid.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
I can imagine how BNp hardliners felt. So sad

Stan1
2 days ago
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2 days ago
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2 days ago
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2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
14s for Chris Bev!

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
BNP never won in “War-sest-er-shy-er” (Mmmuican). “Wust-er” (English) LOL

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2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Ace stream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
HAIL BRONS! Ex-NF

@noreplacement
2 days ago
What happened to Richard Barnbrook?

Chief Moody
2 days ago

@oceans
So, who do you think would be the ideal person other than Mark?

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Waste of time. Tories have Reform as back-up.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 days ago
Naive to think the establishment wouldn’t hit back. Now we know they will and have to plan for that and build capabilities to counter.

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
Thoughts on Dominic Cummings creating a new party

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago

@Stan1
I wish all you domnos would ask him a question. TY anyway, Stan, mate

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2 days ago

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oceans
2 days ago
well I like Mark, and he has many talents, but he’s just not the person to inspire and lead people and find creative solutions. Mark seems unhappy and like he lost his spark/fire.

Chief Moody
2 days ago

@oceans
Which party or group would you support?

Henry
2 days ago
BNP were the ultimate bogeyman

@AlbionForever
2 days ago

@oceans
you know Nick Griffin went on the same Muslim podcast as Mark did right?

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
MOst radical BNP member to win was Chris Bev.

@BritishGammon
2 days ago
Great stream – very interesting

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
BNP toward the end started promoting Churchill though. It became middle-class patriotard IMHO

Henry
2 days ago
nick griffin accusing you of hiring hit man yesterday, can’t believe that man

oceans
2 days ago
And now Mark Collett is talking about how nationalists should ally with brown Muslims.

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2 days ago
I was over the moon when Brons was MEP

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2 days ago

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Henry
2 days ago
what did BNP do with their power

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago

@AntiMattoid
TOP BOY. Well done

@noreplacement
2 days ago
We worked hard leafletting and going to hustings et cetera

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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Halifax is almost as cold as Oldham (high up)

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
Steve Smith was the man in Burnley

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
NF never had a prob with BNp only with Griffo

Stan1
2 days ago

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Good one

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2 days ago
I was with NF and me and my NF region STILL leafletted for BNP

@PaganBear
2 days ago
Nationalists need to have kids, not waste time in European politics, they would kill you if you got elected.

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2 days ago

@withey
Have a good night.

withey
2 days ago
i must go, goodnight all 14/88 28

@PaganBear
2 days ago
White people with brains in the EU and survival instinct need to leave Stalinist western EU. I think going to Hungary would be the best idea. The internet is global so you can try to reach people that way, I think the “normies” need to taste Stalinism before the snap out of it

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@AlbionForever
2 days ago
They left to join a party run by a doxxer and a fed who gets off committing terror offences.

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2 days ago
All the boomers on my tiktok channel spamming “vote reform” were infuriating

@AlbionForever
2 days ago

@oceans
or maybe, he isn’t lying to people and pulling the wool over their eyes.

Chief Moody
2 days ago
Oh, here comes the butthurt.

oceans
2 days ago
I can see why some of the young talent in PA left Mark. Mark is no longer inspiring.

@TimSeymour
2 days ago
We know who they are (ex PA) :sweat_smile:

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2 days ago

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@BritishGammon
2 days ago
$25.00
In the absence of a nationalist candidate would it be better to encourage people to turn up and spoil their ballot paper rather than vote tactically or not vote at all?
And would the establishment even care if thousands of people voted “none of the above”?

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2 days ago
I’ve read Siege, you can’t give me any reality checks at this point lol

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Mark even almost puts me to shame on ideology. Gonna have to have a word with that cheeky monkey! LOL

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2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
14s if Mark gets it

@WhiteLightKnight
2 days ago
I hate to say but I do question some of the link analysis being made here. I think we need to drill down a bit deeper into reasons people do come out to vote. In conjuction we need to look at social media opportunities.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Guy*

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Barnbrook was the 1st white-suit gut before Dickhead Spencer

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
i read that pcc can direct the policing, i would target certain demographics

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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Hail Galloway!

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
Fact of the day: Nat Soc existed before Uncle. He did not invent it. Strasser came before. Most Nats don’t like that fact. LOL

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
Muslim independents did well on the gaza ticket

withey
2 days ago
lib dems should be extinct

Stan1
2 days ago
People are tooooooooo comfortable

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Even Civ nat is redundant. Call them patriotards

withey
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
i prefer to be differentiated from civ nats

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
If the Austrian painter hadn’t been toppled, Germany would’ve been the most powerful nation on earth today, I believe.

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
Reform waiting for the general election

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
“Ethno-nationalist” is redundant term. Just say Nationalist.

withey
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
agreed

DOLO
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
I’d love that.

withey
2 days ago

@Pictoff
you are astute

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
A European power-block led by Germany would be basically unstoppable, once the demographic situation was righted.

withey
2 days ago

@Pictoff
you’re too kind

@Pictoff
2 days ago

@withey
Ey yo das racis, y u so racis wite boy

DOLO
2 days ago
Ngubu no. 13 score goal, the crowd goes ooga booga wild

withey
2 days ago

@DOLO
all football is, is just chimps chasing a ball about

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Those are the only two European nations (outside of Russia) that possess nuclear weapons.

@AlbionForever
2 days ago

@withey
yes. As an example, if all of Europe was to turn completely nationalist, the nuclear arsenals of Britain and France would be essential to ensuring that we don’t get the Serbia treatment from the US.

withey
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
union is united, bound governed whereas alliance is independent cooperation

DOLO
2 days ago
I watch white men beat the shit out of each other in bkb these days, fk homo sportball

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2 days ago
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@noreplacement
2 days ago
I watch and cheer on any team made up of white players

DOLO
2 days ago
I just played through Scarface on ps2, so good

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Small nations won’t survive, only Empires and Superpowers will.

withey
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
yeah alliance not union

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
You were buzzing for the world Cup during the Russell Brand interview!

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Fk football. Mario Golf on the NES for the win

@MarkCollett

@AlbionForever
2 days ago

@withey
some kind of Union where the different nations of Europe retain their individuality, but work together against bigger threats.

DOLO
2 days ago
I assume he get’s it from Yokey

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Wait, Galloway has PR in his manifesto? Rightoids be like reeee! 404, does not compute.

@AlbionForever
2 days ago

@DOLO
Spencer’s not the only one espousing that idea. It’s the only way Europe will survive in a modern, global world.

@Pictoff
2 days ago
We need the EU like we need a hole in our heads

withey
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
that would be an alliance not a ‘union’

DOLO
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
That’s the Spencer special

@WhiteLightKnight
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
Very good point.

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
To be honest, in the future we will need some kind of EU, but run in the interests of nationalists.

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2 days ago
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Stan1
2 days ago
They’ll never allow Proportional Representation

@Deanfranjek
2 days ago
nationalism is on the rise a good thing

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Euroscepticism is a waste of nationalist energy. It’s akin to obsessing over the WEF. They’re just branches on the much bigger globalist weed.

@Pictoff
2 days ago
Farage’s brexit victory was never leaving the EU, It was a wool over the eyes moment, We are still very much in the EU

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Nationalism is beyond Left/Right

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
From the horses mouth

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Tories and muh “Right” are scum

@AlbionForever
2 days ago

@withey
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3630847/More-black-people-allowed-Britain-leave-EU-immigration-non-issue-says-Nigel-Farage.html

Stan1
2 days ago
Reform, Remix, Recon, Reflex??? We need the Remove Party

DOLO
2 days ago
Yeah, they did, and then Farage backed down, for reasons

withey
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
no that is revenge by the state

@ReedJohnson
2 days ago

@BrotherB.
Hello and welcome.

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Hundreds of thousands of Indians coming to the UK every year. That’s Farage’s Brexit “victory”.

Fearless sunshine
2 days ago
Only malnourished Lice were gassed. Sadly many survived.

Eh
2 days ago
seems fair

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Nigel Farage’s little con was to get everyone angry about European immigration so he could replace it with Africans and Asians.

It’s me BrotherB.
2 days ago
South Florida in the house

DOLO
2 days ago

@withey
\o

withey
2 days ago

@DOLO
same here

withey
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
we all have different interests, but for our taxes we are provided with services, some of which we don’t need, which is why we must vote for the party we want

DOLO
2 days ago
I’m a NatSoc, i don’t want to pretend to be anything else.

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2 days ago
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DOLO
2 days ago
the BNP was not watered down like UKIP

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago

@withey
I would consent to tax is it was 10% and spent on NHS, women, children, elderly etc. But it’s not. It’s spent on foreign aid, war, politicians wages. I sympathise with anarchism. Think what you will, mate

Eh
2 days ago
“Don’t vote for this Nazi” flipping c wotsits

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
Jack Strawstein

@noreplacement
2 days ago
Never forget. Never forgive

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Look at Nick Griffin’s appearence on QT. All the big party representatives on the panel united together against the BNP.

withey
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
theft would be taken and left uncompensated

@BritishGammon
2 days ago

@ReedJohnson
Yes…hilarious lol

DOLO
2 days ago
lol

withey
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
it’s a service charge, the service must exist in the first place

@ReedJohnson
2 days ago

@BritishGammon
Funny how that happens.

@BritishGammon
2 days ago
After the election a promise becomes an “aspiration”

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago

@withey
Theft: taking without owner’s consent. Do we have the choice to consent? No. Pay or be locked up. If that’s not theft, I don’t know what is.

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
14

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
20 fags in Vietnam = £1. Pint of beer =£1.50. Fkn Commies, right? PMSL

@AlternativePatriot
2 days ago
Income tax is definitely theft, as well as council tax

withey
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
not so much theft, but definitely misappropriate those funds

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2 days ago
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@BritishGammon
2 days ago
1 (They agree on 95% and argue about the 5%-just for show)

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
14

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
1

withey
2 days ago
1

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
1

@noreplacement
2 days ago
1

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
The whole UK political system is clearly set up to prevent any kind of change, just like in the US. The whole thing is rigged.

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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
A tenner says it’s a hung parliament and Galloway wins more than 1? We on?

Stan1
2 days ago
it’s been carefully crafted by the master mathmeticians

@AlbionForever
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
no he won’t. Labour will win a landslide in 2025. And then in 2030 after Labour becomes hugely unpopular again, the public will turn back to the Tories again.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Galloway is going to huirt them big time, Albion, mate

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
I remember saying “give it a few years, they’ll be back on top”

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Remember in 2019 everyone was saying that Labour was finished after Corbyn lost that election.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Zombies, mark

withey
2 days ago

@Lemonaid22
but they give the appearance of left and right

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
mark knows his Nationalism. I won’t deny him that -much as we don’t se eye to eye. LOL. Best working Nat out there

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
Centrist? They’re both on the left

withey
2 days ago
every party should be on the ballot

Stan1
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
we were all young once

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2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Must confess I voted Tory in 1997 to stop Labour. I was young and a Tory Boy back then. I wince at how I used to be. But an education with the National Front soon crushed that stupidity.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Tax is theft. 14s if agree.

withey
2 days ago
absolute theatre, with talking over each other and making up figures

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
FK GDP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ReedJohnson
2 days ago
1

@noreplacement
2 days ago
bollox

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Last one I watched was before the GE in 2015.

@TimSeymour
2 days ago
1

I own a doghouse
2 days ago
1

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
1 torture

DOLO
2 days ago
Yes, but not for years

@AlternativePatriot
2 days ago
The only way a council tax boycott would work is if we lived in the same area in a small town or village

@ReedJohnson
2 days ago
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Stan1
2 days ago
Ben Eltonstein

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
Ben Elton was right about Thatcher

danzimmons
2 days ago
millions a day, just to house brownoids

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago

@withey
Migrants don’t pay Council Tax. print money = suicide. It can’t go on

danzimmons
2 days ago
vootin will definitely change something, different multi millionaire’s will make even more shekel’s

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
1000 boycotting Council Tax =700, 000- 100,000 lost revenue every month. Let’s see the System then treat us like shit

withey
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
they have all the answers, other people to replace us, printing money, etc

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2 days ago
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@noreplacement
2 days ago
What you write will be read. I’ve been to vounts

Eh
2 days ago
yep and then Nigel comes along

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago

@withey
Disagree. Poll Tax riots of 1990s -did folk starve then? It was a win for the folk.

withey
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
only answer is to change the mindset, just vote for who you want because things can’t get much worse

Eh
2 days ago
yep and the.

@noreplacement
2 days ago
Spoil your paper and write a racial nationalist slogan

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
Yeah, and the party is only small because they refuse to vote for them.

Eh
2 days ago
hello

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
No, go to the ballot box and spoil your vote. This is counted and declared

withey
2 days ago

@BeerHallPooch
we will starve before the establishment

danzimmons
2 days ago
Vootin is consenting.

@noreplacement
2 days ago
It’s not about backing the winning team

DOLO
2 days ago
When i voted BNP it was the only time i felt like my vote actually mattered

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Stop voting. Further delegitimise the System. Mass non-compliance; mass boycott of Council Tax

danzimmons
2 days ago

Fearless sunshine
2 days ago
Treason doesn’t even get a misdemeanor charge anymore.

DOLO
2 days ago
Voting for the uniparty is the definition of a wasted vote

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Hail Rick Barnbrook

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2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Statist Nats stuck in the 1800s: “Wait, UKIP got nearly 4 million votes and only 1 MP? 404. Does not compute. Land of hope and glory. Muh civic duty. Muh British way!”

danzimmons
2 days ago
nigel, it’s not easy being a mark’ destroying any chance of a populist win, but it sure does pay well.

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
And they only won that seat because it was a defector from the Tories.

Chief Moody
2 days ago

@ReedJohnson
That is true. I would imagine these are the same haters who claim to understand revolutionary voting patterns.

Reginald Collett
2 days ago
it’s over!

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2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
British (ZOG) democracy: rule by zombies. I have far more respect for those that stay at home than vote Lib-Lab-Con

@TimSeymour
2 days ago
Ironic the number was 14!

@ReedJohnson
2 days ago

@Chief_Moody
Haters gonna hate.

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
There was a referendum on this when lib dems were in coalition govt

Chief Moody
2 days ago
I wonder who are the 14 people who slimed the stream?

@ReedJohnson
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
Yes it is. Lol

@AlbionForever
2 days ago

@ReedJohnson
it’s my turn now…

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
FPtPS is a nice little earner for the System. The whole thing is illigitimate

danzimmons
2 days ago
lol

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
0.02
Hi Mark. DId you know that the Fairchild A10 Thunderbolt 2 has a single 30mm Gatling cannon and 2 General Electric turbines. When it fires it’s gun and puts it’s engines to full it will actually accelerate backwards, that is how powerful it is.

Mosschops
2 days ago

@Me
Evening

@ReedJohnson
2 days ago

@AlbionForever
Haha. Excellent new avatar.

Eh
2 days ago
just u

Eh
2 days ago
ffs

withey
2 days ago
good evening all 14/88 wpww 28

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2 days ago
plus they couldn’t help but boast how they rigged the election against Drumph in Time

@AlbionForever
2 days ago
0.05
Hi Mark. Would it be suspicious for a party to get registered when the Electoral Commission are aware that they have been breaking the law?

Eh
2 days ago
hi sweetie pies

danzimmons
2 days ago
Hillary Clinton literally scolded Biden for not “fixing” the election in the Middle East

billybrown
2 days ago
probably happens in big cities but not everywhere. they can definitely add some here and there

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
Tower hamlets Muslim mayor was convicted of vote tampering

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2 days ago
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Nice 1, Eddy

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
Take local seats as an independent and don’t reveal power level

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2 days ago
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billybrown
2 days ago
know why other people might be doing things a certain way

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Cos we won’t recant on Nat principles

billybrown
2 days ago
help make the best choice

Speak your mind
2 days ago
agree@LukeThHermit

@Lemonaid22
2 days ago
Why have PA not received approval from electoral commission, but other lesser nationalist parties have been approved?

@LukeTheHermit
2 days ago
General is dead until we take local

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
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2 days ago
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Speak your mind
2 days ago
hello everyone

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2 days ago
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2 days ago
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2 days ago
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2 days ago
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Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
All those questions you’ve ever wanted to pose on the Movement, get them in. Let’s get this Movement moving forward.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Circa 3-4 million UKIP voters. Say, Oceans, where are their MPs cos muh elections?

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Still wasting everyone’s time on electioneering? Have you learned nothing? Biden was a rigged election. Nevermind, let’s keep playing the System’s game.

oceans
2 days ago
so Mark Collett says to ally with brown Muslims and give up on trying to get our people elected?

oceans
2 days ago
M

Cecil
2 days ago
It’s not a dead end, it’s just a question of persuading Britons to vote in their own interests. More professionalism, better propaganda, and decisive leadership can make this happen. But we all need to invest time and money in the groups and people who can effect the change

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2 days ago
This will be a controversial one, this topic always causes a schism between us all sadly. I get both sides though. I think we should do whatever we can, try to shake things up in the local council seats but never stop the IRL and community building either.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
Hey, Nats: You know why the System does what it does to us? Cos it does not suffer the consequences. Like a child whose soft parents will not spank its arse, it carries on with bad conduct. Spoiled children are in office laughing at us.

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
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Hail Mark. I put my money where my mouth is. Me & Pete Rushton (his permission) say leading Nats need to meet privately to figure out a new way forward. Ideas, strategy, tactics on the table. We are now piss-arsing about with outdated positions. We’re not saving all Whites. Pls discuss. Important :thumbs_up:

Beer Hall Pooch
2 days ago
^^^

Henry
3 days ago
Our people only have ourselves to blame. Faced with people who hate us, we meekly give in. I don’t understand this mentality.

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Mark Collett – Muslims Don’t Control UK Politics – Zionists Do – Feb 16, 2024 – Transcript

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Mark Collett

Muslims Don’t Control UK Politics

Zionists Do

Fri, Feb 16, 2024

[In this video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, says:

“Britain’s rapidly growing Muslim population has increasingly dominated local politics up and down the country. However, despite both Labour and the Conservatives bending over backwards to prioritise Muslims ahead of White Britons, recent events have shone a light on who really controls power in the UK.”

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Azhar Ali: Parliamentary candidate here in Rochdale with the support of so many members. The battle now starts and we’re going to go out there and knock on every single door and make sure we get support for Labour and send Rishi Sunak a clear message. Enough is enough after 14 years of neglect!

[Interpreter repeating his statement in Urdu]

[00:43]

Mark Collett: What you have just seen is footage of Azhar Ali, a Parliamentary candidate for the forthcoming Rochdale by-election. Azhar Ali opened his campaign speaking through an interpreter, that’s because those living in Rochdale no longer speak English.

But maybe that’s not phrasing it correctly, as it’s not like the people of Rochdale forgot how to speak English or gave up speaking English in favour of a foreign language. What happened, is those people who did speak English, the people who built the town, were replaced by people who don’t speak English!

And before anyone asks, the answer is NO! The people who don’t speak English are NOT newly arrived migrants, they are registered voters who live or own property in the constituency. The people who need to be addressed through an interpreter are for the most part second or maybe even third generation migrants living in England who don’t speak English as a first language. That’s because they don’t need to, because Rochdale, like many other towns or areas within larger cities, have been so completely transformed by migration that they are now effectively foreign outposts on English soil.

But was there any outrage over this?

No! Not that I saw. I didn’t even see a story in the Daily Mail about it. It was just taken as par for the course, the new normal, if you will. And something that will no doubt be ever more common in the coming decades.

I did however find one hilarious article about this issue over on some absolutely awful “fact checking site” called “Full Fact”, which would be more accurately titled, “Full of Bullshit”.

Full Fact was quick to “debunk” any rumours that the candidate himself didn’t speak English; slow handclap for the dribbling liberal who missed the point. The candidate obviously speaks English, it’s the fact that such a significant number of voters within the Rochdale Parliamentary constituency don’t speak English that has created a stir on social media!

Anyway, I didn’t see any stories in the media about this, as it’s probably just taken for granted now, and maybe, to some, it is a sign of how wonderous and diverse modern Britain is.

And many would look at this situation and draw the conclusion that Muslims in places like Rochdale are now firmly in control. Muslims have come to Britain, grown in number, completely colonised certain towns, and as a result, they are now the ones running local politics to the point where elections aren’t even conducted in English anymore.

So, which party is Azhar Ali representing in this election? Well, of course, it’s the Labour Party. Or it was – he has in fact now been suspended from the party.

“What?”

I hear you excitedly say, the sound of expectation in your voice. Maybe a mainstream political party acted over this outrage and suspended a candidate for acting in a way that may exclude or disenfranchise White British voters.

But don’t be ridiculous! That would never happen. Labour would ever do such a thing – and neither would the Conservatives for that matter.

Labour suspended Azhar Ali and withdrawn their support for him, not because he was pandering to the Muslim vote or delivering his election pledges in Urdu. They withdrew their support for him because he said something critical of the state of Israel and about Jewish control of the media.

You see Azhar Ali crossed the line – the line that REALLY matters. I read this from the BBC, and I quote:

“Labour has withdrawn support for Rochdale by-election candidate Azhar Ali over comments he apparently made about Israel and Jewish people. Labour had stood by Mr Ali when he claimed Israel had allowed the 7 October attacks by Hamas as a pretext to invade Gaza. But it changed position after Mr Ali apparently also blamed Jewish media figures for fuelling criticism against a pro-Palestinian Labour MP.”

“Mr Ali has been contacted for comment. He will still be listed as the Labour candidate on the ballot paper as under electoral law it is too late to replace him. However, it is understood Mr Ali has been suspended from the party pending an investigation.”

End quote. You see, there’s one thing you simply can’t do in UK politics – and that’s criticise Israel or Jews! No matter who you are, no matter whether you are a Parliamentary candidate, or a sitting MP, whether you are black or Muslim.

If you criticise Israel in any way or make comments about Jews, you are for the chop! You will be suspended, expelled, sanctioned! And both the Tories and Labour will do anything they can to silence and punish you.

And since October of last year, we have seen several MPs on both sides of the illusory political divide pay the price for opening their mouths.

The Conservative Minister Paul Bristow was sacked from his position by the Conservatives for, wait for it, calling for a ceasefire in Gaza! This isn’t a joke. I read this from the BBC, and I quote:

“A ministerial aide has been sacked from his government role after calling for a ceasefire in Gaza. Downing Street said Paul Bristow had made comments which ‘were not consistent with the principles of collective responsibility’.”

“In a letter to the prime minister last week, Mr Bristow said ‘a permanent ceasefire would save lives and allow aid to reach those who needed it most.’ The government supports ‘humanitarian pauses’ but not a full ceasefire.”

End quote. And Labour is no different. Azhar Ali isn’t the only candidate who has been suspended whilst campaigning.

Graham Jones, a former MP and another Parliamentary candidate was also suspended just days after Azhar Ali. But what was his crime you may ask? Well, he had the temerity to suggest that British citizens travelling to Israel to take part in the Gaza genocide should be prosecuted – I read this from Sky News, and I quote:

“Mr Jones, the former Labour MP for Hyndburn who lost his seat in 2019 and is seeking to stand again, is alleged to have said that UK citizens who volunteer to fight for the Israeli Defence Forces ‘should be locked up’, and that it was ‘illegal’ for them to fight for Israel, according to the website Guido Fawkes.”

End quote. And Labour haven’t just suspended Parliamentary candidates, they have also suspended sitting MPs. In October of last year, they suspended Andy McDonald, MP for Middlesborough for daring to call for “peace”. I read this from the BBC, and I quote:

“Andy McDonald has been suspended as a Labour MP, after the party said he had made ‘deeply offensive’ comments relating to the Israel-Gaza war. In his speech at a demonstration on Saturday, Mr McDonald, a former shadow minister under Jeremy Corbyn, said: ‘We will not rest until we have justice. Until all people, Israelis and Palestinians, between the river and the sea, can live in peaceful liberty.’”.

End quote. And this is all really interesting.

Not least because Britain has a rapidly growing Islamic population – one that both parties have attempted to court to differing degrees. The Labour Party especially have bent over backwards to suck-up to and appease the Muslim community. Something that has led certain people to erroneously claim that Muslims run Britain.

But they don’t!

Muslims may have a grip on local politics in areas that have effectively been colonised. But those who hold real power, on a national level, over Parliamentary politics, over the seats of power where the real decisions are made, those people are Zionists! And those people wield their influence for the benefit of the state of Israel and for the Jewish community.

Muslims may well be higher up the pecking order than White Britons – that’s a given. And state’s cover up of the grooming scandal effectively proves that.

But Muslims aren’t top of the tree, they aren’t the ones in charge, they are just favoured above the indigenous people.

And if you want to figure who is really in charge, just find out who you aren’t allowed to criticise – just like Azhar Ali did!

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@BritishGammon
9 days ago
And just in case you forget who you’re not allowed to critise the regime is planning to build a memorial to the “holocaust” right outside the British parliament to remind you………forever.

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By Their Works
8 days ago
Until Whites hold the Shabbos Goy scum accountable, things will only get worse.

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@xero
8 days ago
if the holocaust happened we would be living in paradise right now

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A new age of reason
4 days ago
I often wonder what German leaders would have done differently starting in 1933 if they could have seen into the future. The myth of evil german aggression aside, it is difficult to theorize how they would handle themselves in defeating or defanging their enemies while maintaining a good reputation with neighbors and their clean conscience in perpetuity.

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Euroicus
9 days ago
The ultimate jewish objective is clear:
1. Establish a tyrannical one-world government ruled over by jews.
2. Make Jerusalem the capital city of planet Earth from where they will administer their Global Empire.
3. Establish a globalist two-tier religion with jews as the priestly class ruling over the noahides, all other religions will be assimilated as noahides or outlawed and destroyed.
4. Create a global two-tier class system with jews as the new aristocracy ruling over the brown, black and yellow slave races.
Whites do not fit into this equation because Whites will soon be extinct if all goes to plan (Kalergi Plan).

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TruthVidsDotNet
9 days ago
Yet that won’t be fulfilled since Whites are Biblical Israel / God’s Chosen People and a remnant will survive till the second coming of Jesus when He will destroy all His enemies according to the Holy Christian Scriptures

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All Govs are Zionist Occupied
9 days ago
Yet your bible fantasy wont happen because all abrahamic “religions” (christianity, judaism, islam) are just really old jewish lies used to propagandize and fool the ‘goys’. Whites will need to become as nepotistic as the jews who are currently exterminating Whites. No god is coming to save us and its infantile beliefs like these that jews instilled in your head that harm Whites.

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TruthVidsDotNet
7 days ago
Why so willingly ignorant? Why accept the lies of the Jews? Laziness or lack of cognitive abilities? Funny that the other critical beta blocked me, but then he thinks he won the “debate” I assume. Sadly the vast majority of Nationalists refuse to fo serious studies. Neither shit posting nor David Duke will save us

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By Their Works
8 days ago
and Christians will just keep waiting on that fairy tale like retards instead of doing what’s in our nature and actually fight back. Mil-spec psy-op.

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TruthVidsDotNet
7 days ago
You cannot seriously imagine that Europeans are in a better position today than pre WW2?
Also don’t conflate being a (true, racist) Christian with the effeminate, universalist soy-church.
Even David Duke knows the truth but earning shekels is apparently more important to him

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TruthVidsDotNet
7 days ago
https://christogenea.org/podcasts/dumbing-down-david-duke

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Euroicus
8 days ago
“We’re going extinct but don’t worry, jesus will float down on a magic cloud and save the last remnants of our race if we pray harder” …. LOL

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@MilosM.
9 days ago
I disagree about 4th point. Because what’s the point of exterminating one group if you can simply dominate them? And that’s all there is. Decimate, then conquer with ease.

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@Woden
9 days ago(edited)
Muslims control , lol, Muslims are the Jews Sweeping Brush .

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Cù Fhoirthe
9 days ago
One Rabbi says that. In the Middle East, jews use American Christian soldiers to brow beat Muslim regional rivals. They use both against the other.

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Open Borders for Israel
9 days ago
$5.00
they are both as bad as each other… the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend…

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DOLO
9 days ago
No they’re not. One controls media, banks, porn, NGO’s, and powerful political interest groups, and the other are muslims.

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TruthVidsDotNet
9 days ago
Indeed. Yet Muslims willingly act as their force of dominance on the streets while living off the backs of Whites

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@MilosM.
9 days ago
and the other are responsible for myriad of shocking crimes, like blacks. believing in sole jewish culpability is thoughtless.

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By Their Works
8 days ago
no one is saying muslims are our friends.

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Rodger James
9 days ago
You get what you allow. That is the problem with our White race. We are far too tolerant.

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MagicManintheSky
9 days ago(edited)
Welcome to the JUnited K*kedom.

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ThinRedLine
9 days ago
We have to bring down Z::O::G

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@Woden
9 days ago
….and who do you think will have to fight the civil war that is brewing between these 2 delightful communites? us, us White men as usual….

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MrWebster
8 days ago(edited)
Both muslims and jews are Foreign Subversive Enemies of the White Race. Don’t play one side against other see them as equally as Hostile Enemies.

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anti nwos , anti invasions
9 days ago
they already controll london , and are destroying a big part of the ul without the sionists jews which by the way imported them for that purpose

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@EverybodywakeUp
9 days ago
I live next to this shithole, the towns finished the Whites handed it over with out a struggle.

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By Their Works
8 days ago
well, they couldn’t be raciss in the false reality living in their head put there by The jew!

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FLUMEN
7 days ago
whites have no moral unity they abadoned the churches now the muslim replacments are in them all nodding together on their magic carpets

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@Santa401
9 days ago
The best way to control any opposition is to lead it yourself. Labour or Conserve nothings have been completed usurped by the small hats.

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All Govs are Zionist Occupied
9 days ago
Labour/Conservative, Dem/Rep, Left/Right – just old false dichotomies used by zionist occupied governments for controlling “goy” citizenry. Democracy ranks up there with money and media control as their greatest weapons.

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@Woden
9 days ago(edited)
Englishmen have become weak, and sloppy! Anyone that thinks the “Mu-Slum Community” arent awaiting the day they have outbred us , is a an IDIOT! They await that day, tbrn they will have their own political party

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@Woden
9 days ago
all the troubles in Gaza will do , is determine the Muslim folks to gather more tightly. They will turn their backs on Jewish money, because lets be honest , thats their greatest weapon, paper notes…

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TruthVidsDotNet
9 days ago
Jews will be in power until the return of Jesus.
Non-whites act as “biological warfare” imported to help dominate Whites.
Sadly the vast majority of Nationalists still trust in the Jewish narrative when it comes to ancient history and religion.

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FLUMEN
8 days ago
the traditional christian family culture in england came under organised attack during the 1800’s. today in london alone nearly 500 abandoned churches are now mosques the same thing can be seen across the uk

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TruthVidsDotNet
7 days ago
https://christogenea.org/podcasts/dumbing-down-david-duke

All Govs are Zionist Occupied
9 days ago
Whites all across this realm have been CONDITIONED into being weak by the ZOGs they live under. Generations of people clueless as to who their enemy is and what their enemy is doing. Until that changes the decline continues to genocide.

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@MilosM.
9 days ago
not me lol

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TruthVidsDotNet
9 days ago
Zionists haven’t controlled Britain for 400 years, Jews have.
Don’t fall for their trickery.

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All Govs are Zionist Occupied
9 days ago
Zionists are just jewish supremacists, its one and the same.

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@EihwazUllrman
9 days ago(edited)
Judaism is a supremacist ideology. Supremacy is the foundation of their religion regardless of any internal controversy regarding how best to achieve it.

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All Govs are Zionist Occupied
9 days ago
Yes for sure. Its part of their talmud

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@MilosM.
8 days ago
depends which book they follow.

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TruthVidsDotNet
7 days ago
They only follow the Talmud. When rabbis and other Jews speak of the “Torah” they are always referring to the Talmud

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@MilosM.
7 days ago
not necessarily Torah is still very much in Jews and to lesser extent, Old Testament, but that shouldnt be taken at face value.

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@PureNomad
9 days ago
Damien Egans early life :monocle:

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@Stan1
9 days ago
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MagicManintheSky
9 days ago
Labour’s Starmer has a Jewish wife and Jewish children.

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@EverybodywakeUp
7 days ago
Starmerstein

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AurigaBooks
9 days ago
“Zion’s Legacy: The Nakba Catastrophe and the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict”

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mikechi85
8 days ago
How did this happen.: how did this happen tot he west. This is just crazy man, I mean it’s too difficult to even wrap your mind around. It just doesn’t make sense, it’s not right. How does a tiny minority take total control of the WORLD.

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@CollidingArcs
8 days ago
They have plenty of protection from christians mainly because they wrote their bible and worship their superheroes, and muslims (oil rich) since it’s also the same religious sect. Their lives are fairly uneventful because all they deal with is money and the upper class, so there is no chance for them to get in an accident or k*led. Hence they live in gated communities, with other jews, going to torah schools and building up barriers like holocaust museums and (diversions) racism/feminism movements. They can simply transfer their wealth privately back to the cult, so even if one of them is gone, the cult still benefits. They save money and don’t spend it, which is probably the only admirable thing about them. The protocols of zion outline a lot of their tactics, it’s all opportunistic lying and being as arrogant as possible in every way. That is unless their lives are threatened, then they shrink back to the holocaust and move to an island, let the goyim print more propaganda to carry their favor.
There are plenty more reasons, but in general the only way for a minority to survive in a majority is to have lots of protection against all of the problems they cause and with essentially infinite money printing, no real work hours in nepotism, they can figure out how to do just that..

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FLUMEN
9 days ago
this muslim is a multi-millionare ferengi that promotes bame focused anti-white projects in a white christian country that he was born in so don’t be fooled

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By Their Works
8 days ago
these Whites standing with these muslims in the video or any White who thinks electing non-Whites in White nations need to be sent to rehab. They are too brainwashed to be roaming free.

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@Ba-Ba
8 days ago
Muslims are the obedient attack dogs of the Jews. They might nip your hand once in a while, but as long as they are savaging your enemies, its worth it.

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@wodanmystery
8 days ago
fantastic video.

@MilosM.
9 days ago
I guess this is how the pyramid of power goes. Jews, Muslims, blacks, Indians,whites and Asians. But I honestly love it though. They are all same and they all get sacked only to bring obedient minion and who will confirm more and more on whom you are not allowed to criticize.

Vettekid1488
9 days ago
so ridiculous….I wouldn’t emigrate to their country and get involved in their politics smh

Ⓟ𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵
9 days ago
Influence: King with authority over 37 million residents of Saudi Arabia and approximately 14 million pilgrims annually.

Salman bin Abdul-Aziz Al-Saud

Might find this interesting.

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HydraulicHydra
4 days ago
There is some poetic justice in this. Unlike Whites, moslems will not hesitate to riot and blow up government buildings if they do not get their way, and they certainly will not tolerate their taxes going toward Zion. Also, they don’t pay taxes anyway.

@angelcyn
8 days ago
You all need to watch this about Zionism. Want to know who is really running the show?

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[Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British movement, Patriotic Alternative, critiques a video on Patriotic Alternative at Simon Webb’s History Debunked Youtube channel.

Webb says:

“From time to time since the end of the Second World War, political parties have sprung up in Britain which are resolutely opposed to immigration. The first of these was Oswald Mosely’s Union Movement and the most recent, the Patriotic Alternative. All are doomed to failure.“

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Mark Collett: Hello everyone. This is a bit different this week. I am not doing my usual pre-recorded video. Instead I’m doing a little bit of a response video. And I don’t really think I’ve done a response video quite like this before. Because this is just a response to a short video that was released by a gentleman called Simon Webb, who runs a YouTube channel called History Debunked.

Now, I’ve been made aware of this channel for some time. I’ve watched a number of Simon’s videos. I hadn’t actually watched many recently. And quite a few people have messaged me saying that Simon made a video about Patriotic Alternative. And the video is titled, “Why the Patriotic Alternative is Destined to Fade into Oblivion”.

So a lot of people sent me this video. Some people were upset by it. Some people were annoyed by it. People said I should view it.

Now, first and foremost, I don’t really think this video is an attack on Patriotic Alternative. The title might lead you to believe that, but the video is more a critique of the electoral system here in the UK, of the two-party system. And might even be seen as a critique of voting habits. So a critique of the British public, a critique of people who keep voting for the same two parties regardless of what happens.

And by his logic Simon concludes that, because of this electoral system, and, because of voting patterns, and, because of people’s almost sheep-like nature, we will never have a chance of victory, or a nationalist party, or a nationalist organization, would never have a chance of electoral victory.

Now saying all of that, I am actually going to play Simon’s video. I’m going to stop it at different parts. And I will make commentary on Simon’s video. Because Simon’s piece is possibly an opinion piece, you could say it’s an opinion piece. But it also contains some facts and some evidence that Simon uses to back up his assertion.

However Simon’s evidence is in some cases completely wrong! It’s a complete misstatement, or it is misleading in some way, because Simon makes a number of factual errors during this video. And I intend to point out those factual errors.

And I also intend to point out where Simon’s analysis of this situation is wholly erroneous! And this leads him to forming disingenuous conclusions that could lead the average viewer into believing that there was no way a nationalist party would ever, ever, achieve victory in the UK! Or there’s no way that the indigenous Britons could ever take their destiny back into their own hands. And I think that’s a pretty big black pill!

And I think that’s the kind of analysis that leads people to believe that there is no hope, all hope is lost. And we have to basically roll over and die, and accept our fate as a hated minority. And I don’t believe that for a second. I believe there’s everything to fight for. And I believe there’s numerous ways to carry out this fight. The electoral route is one of them.

But there are also other means such as community building which we have Patriotic Alternative favour. And there’s also advocacy. Legal rights, there are home schooling groups, there are fitness groups. There are all kinds of pro-White groups that advocate for the Rights, or well-being of the indigenous people of these islands. And they don’t necessarily have to go down the electoral route.

So, let’s see what Simon has to say. And as we watch this, what we will do is stop the video from time to time when there are things that Simon said that are either incorrect, or that I have a different take on that I feel he needs pulling up on. So here goes let’s hear what Simon has to say:

Simon Webb: Hello again. Some comments on this channel have been urging us to support a political group called the Patriotic Alternative, which is determined firstly to draw attention to the fact that if current trends continue White people will be a minority in Britain within 40 years. And secondly to take firm action immediately to prevent this state of affairs from arising.

This is, of course not the first time that a political party in Britain has been dedicated to halting immigration. Oswald Mosley Union Movement fought for a seat in London on this issue in the 1959 general election. They gained eight percent of the vote, which is about the best that any anti-immigration candidate has managed to get since the end of the Second World War.

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Mark Collett: Now this is the first correction, or this is the first correction I have for Simon. This is wholly incorrect. The Union Movement did get about eight percent, post Second World War. But this was eclipsed quite comprehensively by the British National Party. Now I was part of the British National Party. I actually designed the leaflets that were used in this campaign. The candidate was Richard Barnbrook. The constituency was Barking. And the British National Party took 16.9 percent in that constituency. That’s more than double what Oswald Mosley’s Union Movement took post Second World War. And that is a big difference.

And you’ll see here that Simon makes a number of other factual errors about the history of nationalist politics in the UK. But we shall let him continue:

Simon Webb: It was just about matched by the National Front in the two elections, general relations held in 1974, when candidates got about eight percent. Both at Tottenham and Wood Green, in the London borough of Harrington. The National Front fought many seats that year on an explicitly anti-immigration platform. And overall they got about five percent of the vote. If we had proportional representation in this country at that time, this might have equated to 30 National Front MPs! There’s a thought!

Mark Collett: Now that is a good thought. And it’s a good point. And this leads into something we’re talking about later. The electoral system is designed to be a two-party system, which is dominated by two parties that are basically the same! So this is as much a critique of the electoral system itself. And I can see from Simon’s demeanor that his thought of maybe 30 National Front MPs would be a good thing!

So, as I said, this isn’t, you know, an attack on Simon. And I’m sure this video isn’t necessarily an attack on Patriotic Alternative. As I said earlier, I think we could all agree that had the National Front had 30 MPs elected in the late 1970s, Britain could be very different today. And it could be in a far better position when it comes to demographics:

Simon Webb: The British National Party did fairly well at times in local elections, getting a few councillors around in places like Epping Forest. But they didn’t last.

Mark Collett: Now he is 100% correct me said the British National Party didn’t last. But to write off the British National Party’s electoral success as just a few local councillors, is wholly erroneous, and very, very misleading. Now the British National Party at its peak had 56 elected councillors, one elected county councillor, one member of the greater London assembly, and also two elected members of the European Parliament. So it won elections at a local level, at regional level, and had two seats that were won in a major national European election. So to say the British National Party just had a smattering of local councillors, is completely incorrect.

What’s more in Burnley Stoke and Barking and Dagenham, the British National Party at one point was, in fact, the official opposition on that council. So if you looked at Burnley stoke, or Barking Dagenham, at one point, and you reduced things down to a two-party system, the British National Party had become one of those two parties. It was the official opposition. So I think Simon there is presenting evidence which is completely incorrect. And is, in fact, misleading his audience to a degree. Now, I’m not saying he misled his audience intentionally. But nevertheless that is a very misleading statement based on wholly incorrect evidence:

Simon Webb: Since then we’ve seen the English Defense League, and English Democrats. And now the Patriotic Alliance. The truth is people in Britain do not like maverick political parties, of any hue! Whether Left, or Right. They will not vote for communists or those who are vociferous in their opposition to immigration. What they prefer is a simple choice between two political parties, neither of whom offer radical differences in their policies from each.

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Mark Collett: Now again this is all a little misleading! Now what Simon is saying here is that people just prefer two main parties. Yet, in the last, 20 years we have seen a third party, the United Kingdom Independence Party actually outright win a major national election. They won a European election. They were the biggest party to walk away from that European election. We then saw following that, the Brexit Party do the same. And this tells you that people are willing to vote outside of the two-party system.

And we have also seen the two-party system completely collapse in certain parts of the United Kingdom. So, for example, in Scotland you have seen the rise of the Scottish National Party, which has completely taken over Scottish politics and smashed the old Labour-Conservative, you know, left-right dichotomy that existed there between those two parties. And we have also seen, not quite on the same level, but a similar, albeit lesser, rise to power in Wales of Plaid Cymru, which is obviously a supposed Welsh nationalist party.

Now I understand – now’s not the time for this debate – but I do understand the Scottish National Party and Plaid Cymru are not nationalists as we know it. But there has been a breakdown of the traditional two-party system in parts of the United Kingdom:

Simon Webb: I was looking lately at this book which, believe it, or not, when it was published, was a school book. It’s got masses of information inside it. Including the detailed results of every election held in Britain between 1832 and 1979. And this confirms what I’ve always thought. In the 19th century the British like to choose between the Tories and the Liberals. And today they only want either the Labour Party, or the Conservatives. In Scotland and Wales, of course, the position is a little different. But in England, we’ve never wanted any third party.

Mark Collett: Now here Simon admits that the situation in Wales and Scotland is a little different. And he goes on to say it’s different in England. But it kind of undermines his own point here, because what he says was originally the political divide was between the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party. Well the Liberal Party doesn’t really even exist today. The Liberal Democrats is a different party to the original Liberal Party. And this actually goes to show that there can be massive shifts in the political landscape in the UK, including in England. Because the Liberal Party at one point held vast amounts of power within the UK including in England, and now doesn’t even exist.

So this does go to show that parties that hold power, they can fracture, they can dissolve. And they can reform as other parties, changing the political landscape. And obviously if you look into the rise of the Labour Party, or the Labour movement here in the UK, that became the modern day Labour Party, and that eclipsed the liberals. So we’ll let Simon continue a little further:

Simon Webb: Only five communists have ever been elected in Britain in the course of the last century. And no fascist at all. It’s a long while since we’ve had a communist MP, by the way. 70 years or. So when the Social Democrats appeared in the early 1980s, everybody talked to breaking the mould of British politics. But that came to nothing. The Liberal revival in 2010 went the same way.

There is something very reassuring to most people about the present political setup! There are not going to be any unpleasant surprises, or dramatic changes, no matter who they vote for, or what.

Mark Collett: Now here I think Simon is going really off-piece. And this is where I think he obviously presented facts that were incorrect earlier. But this is where I think his opinions, his analysis, is completely wrong! He’s basically saying that the British people don’t want change, they want to be reassured by the same two parties, endlessly winning elections and passing the baton between the two of them.

But I would argue two things. I would actually argue first that evidence suggests Simon’s assertion is completely false. And secondly, I would actually argue that the reason people do bounce between the two major parties is because the people are being deliberately misinformed by the mainstream media. The mainstream media tell the British public that, in fact, these two parties are different, there are discernible differences between those parties. And if you vote for one you will get something different than if you voted for the other. When, in fact, they’re nearly identical.

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I’ll give you an example of this media manipulation. And I’ll give you some examples of the British public showing they actually do want change. Now the example of media manipulation can be seen quite clearly at the last general election. You had Jeremy Corbyn standing as leader of the Labour Party trying to win a Labour victory. And you had Boris Johnson, who obviously we know is the leader of the Conservative Party. He’s now the Prime Minister. And he won, by a landslide, a massive Conservative victory.

So let’s look at their discussion on mass immigration. Now Jeremy Corbyn, whether you like him, or whether you hate him – and I said this at the time – is an honest man. He said he wanted open borders. He wanted completely open borders. And he wanted to flood Britain with migrants. He wanted to open the doors. And welcome everybody in!

Now the British public didn’t like that. And he was painted by the media as this sort of crazy guy who had this egalitarian dream of inviting everyone in. It would swamp Britain and there would be these huge negative repercussions, because we would have record rates of immigration.

Now Boris Johnson, on the other hand, he said:

“He wanted a points based immigration system.”

He said he wanted to get tough on immigration. But he said:

“We don’t need an upper limit we don’t need to set this silly upper limit on immigration.”

We’ll come back to that. He said that he wanted a “points-based system”. Now he used the words “point-based system” for a reason. It’s, because he went to focus groups and he found out that normal people responded positively to those words. Because the average man, or woman on the street is anti-immigration. And this is called a “populist positioning strategy”. I made a video about this the other week when I discussed the refugees to Rwanda nonsense, which clearly isn’t going to happen, and it’s clearly just a smoke screen to make people believe that the Conservatives are, in fact, anti-immigration, which they’re not!

So you look at what Boris Johnson was saying and you analyze it. What he’s saying is there’s going to be a point-based system with no upper limit. So essentially what he’s saying is he’s going to invite everyone in, because he’s going to set a really, really, low bar, and everyone is going to get the points necessary and Britain is going to be completely swamped! That’s what he’s actually saying! But he said it in such a way that ticks all the boxes for the public to think he’s going to be tough on immigration. At the time I said:

“Johnson and Corbyn want the same thing when it comes to immigration. Whoever you vote for you’re going to be swamped by migrants!”

Now we are over a year down the road from Boris Johnson being elected with that stunning majority. And what have we seen? We’ve seen record immigration! We’ve seen millions of Hong Kong residents offered passports. We’ve seen tens of thousands of Afghans given passports. We’ve seen Boris Johnson visiting India, a week, or so, ago and offering several hundred thousand Indian tech workers visas and passports to come here and work.

We have seen hundreds of thousands of workers from abroad being offered visas since the end of the Covid restrictions, during the Covid restrictions. We saw tens of thousands of workers being offered visas for work on farms despite British workers being denied those jobs. And we’ve seen masses of migrants crossing the channel illegally! And this is all under Boris Johnson.

So that means essentially whether you voted Labour, or whether you voted Tory, you got exactly the same end! You got exactly the same number of migrants. You were swamped! But and we know this.

And I’ll give you another example of this, because you don’t need to take my word on it. Recently Robin Tilbrook, the chairman of the English Democrats, he raised an excellent blog post – which I’ll link in the description below – which is based on a piece by Theresa May’s former Chief of Staff, where he nakedly, and openly, admits that this is the case! He openly admits that Boris Johnson uses this populist positioning strategy. He uses focus groups testing words and phrases to con the public. But that article was only in the Daily Telegraph.

And this is how the media manipulates people. You see the media we’re telling people throughout this election that Boris Johnson was going to be tough on immigration. He was going to have a tough stance! He was going to reduce migration numbers, whereas Corbyn was going to be a complete madman. He was going to let them all in. There was going to be floods of migrants, it was going to be uncontrollable. The British people would be paying the price for his insane policies.

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But ultimately both Johnson and Corbyn have the same policy. It’s just Johnson is a very, very good liar. But he’s not just a good liar. You see the media is there to inform the public when politicians are lying. But the media are in on the game. So the media tell the public that Boris Johnson’s lies are, in fact, the truth! That, in fact, Boris Johnson is going to crack down on immigration. So they all vote Boris Johnson.

So it’s not a matter of the public necessarily favouring the two-party system. It’s a fact that the public are misinformed deliberately! They’re lied to by the media! And that keeps them in this two-party system.

Now Simon also asserted that the public don’t like change. Well this again is demonstratively untrue! The British public voted to leave the European Union by majority in the Brexit referendum. That was a vote for change.

When polled the British public repeatedly says that they want fewer immigrants coming to Britain. They want an end to mass immigration. But then they’re lied to you by people like Boris Johnson, so they vote for a party they think they’re going to change something. But nothing gets changed. Nothing ever [chuckling] gets changed! Because both parties are in on the immigration scam. They’re in on bringing millions of people here.

And if you look at the immigration statistics from migration watch UK what you’ll actually see is that mass immigration under the Conservatives is actually at an all-time high. So under this Conservative government, which was initially elected in 2010, which has repeatedly made pledges on cutting down on mass immigration, they have repeatedly raised the bar when it comes to mass immigration.

So you can actually see here this isn’t a case of the public voting for “comfortable parties” that make them feel more at ease. This is a case of the public voting for parties based on lies. Lies that are reinforced by a media that is in on the scam!

What’s more, you can actually see that when the public does get a chance to vote for big changes they will actually vote en mass for those big changes.

But let’s carry on with what Simon has to say:

Simon Webb: The outcome of a general election is both parties wanted to stay in Europe, both are committed to large-scale immigration, both are determined to keep taxes high, neither wants to reform the NHS. Both sang from the same song sheet during the Covid business, although both leaders knew it was nonsense. Which is why they attended social gatherings without any fear. Whichever way you vote at a general election things are going to carry on much as before!

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Mark Collett: Now I agree with everything Simon says there. Both parties are identical. Simon is on the money! They both supported the Covid madness, they both knew the Covid madness was garbage, because as Simon correctly said, both party leaders attended large social gatherings, or parties whether at Downing Street, or whether at political events in Durham. They knew it was rubbish! Simon is talking complete sense there.

But I think what Simon is missing here is the level of media misinformation that traps people within that two-party system. And I think Simon also has a misunderstanding over who controls the media. And what the aims, or what the primary aim of the media is!

Simon Webb: Which does rather seem to be the way that the British, and particularly the English, like it. Neither of the two main parties wants to see proportional representation, because that would upset the Apple cart. Which, of course, is why when there was a referendum a few years ago [chuckling] about ditching the first past the post voting system, the proposed alternative was made so complicated that most people couldn’t understand it. And so they voted to stick with what they did understand.

Mark Collett: This is another good point by Simon! People didn’t vote for proportional representation. But he makes the point again, and this dovetails with what I’m actually saying, is that the people are being lied to, or being conned in some way!

So when you see something like a referendum on proportional representation, what you actually have is a system proposed to the public which is so convoluted, sounds so crazy, that ultimately they won’t back it. However, going back to my point earlier, when they are given a simple and straight forward referendum, such as:

“Do you want to leave the European Union? Yes. Do you want to stay within the European Union?”

People vote accordingly. And people actually do vote for change. When it’s a simple yes-no referendum that people understand, they will vote for change.

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But you can put people off voting for change when the proposal, or the proposed change, is explained in such a strange way that the people think the new system will actually be less fair. And obviously the people draughting this referendum on proportional representation, or PR, they draughted it in that way to ensure they got the results that they wanted. But that wasn’t possible with the Brexit referendum, because David Cameron offered a simple yes no, in out, referendum.

And again it shows that when things aren’t passed through that filter, through that fog, that smoke screen, people will vote for change:

Simon Webb: I’m saying nothing about the possible merits of the Patriotic Alternative you understand. And neither am I criticizing it. Rather I’m explaining why it will not come to anything in the long run.

Mark Collett: Well, here again Simon isn’t attacking us as people. And I don’t want anyone who watches my videos to go over to Simon’s channel – and I’ll link Simon’s channel in the description beneath this video. I don’t want anyone going there and abusing Simon. I don’t want anyone throwing any shade on his work. He does some excellent videos. I’m not saying I agree with him on everything, or that he agrees with me on everything. But I’d say me and Simon would probably agree with each other on 90 to 95% of what we talk about.

However, I think what Simon is doing here is miss characterizing Patriotic Alternative. We do want to be a registered political party. Patriotic Alternative does want to fight local elections. And we do want to participate in the democratic process. Because we want to oppose demographic change through the democratic process.

However a Patriotic Alternative is fundamentally a community-based group that advocates for the rights of indigenous Britons, and attempts to raise awareness about demographic change. That’s why we spent the month of April putting out nearly 140,000 leaflets on demographic change, to raise awareness.

Now, I don’t think anyone should put all their eggs in the electoral basket. And I think Simon would agree with that. I think we have a lot of common ground on that point. We shouldn’t be putting all our eggs in that basket. There is far more that we can do with community building, advocacy, and standing up for the rights of indigenous Britons in a legal sense.

And, because of those things, I think we have more strings to our bow than the British National Party had. I think we have there’s more dimensions to Patriotic Alternative. And that’s why we continue to achieve such great rates of growth and such great success on such a limited budget:

Simon Webb: Ordinary people don’t want change! They just want society to muddle along in the same way that it has done all their lives. And they don’t want to see the boat rocked! This may, or may not, be a good thing. But it is certainly how the vast majority of people feel as they demonstrate each election.

Mark Collett: Okay. And that is the end of what Simon has to say. And he says:

“People don’t want change they want to muddle along.”

That’s his conclusion. But again. Now, I don’t have data from Britain for this. But I do have data from the recent French presidential election. I did a lengthy breakdown an analysis of the French presidential election results. And interestingly the demographic group that voted for change the least were those aged over 70. Those 70 plus voters, voted overwhelmingly for Macron. Those over the age of 70 rejected Marine Le Pen in the largest numbers.

Now you might think that’s odd. And I said this on the analysis. You might think that’s odd. You might think those people are the ones who would have seen all the changes in France and would be most willing to see everything be changed back, to be taken back to how things used to be.

But you tend to find that people of a certain age group are resistant to change. And I used to find this on the doors when I would speak to people when I was canvassing for the British National Party. And people of a certain age group will always vote for the establishment parties. Because that’s what their parents did, that’s what their grandparents did. And they view politics in a very different way to how younger people view politics.

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So you saw younger White French people in the presidential election embracing Marine Le Pen. Whereas you saw older White French people rejecting her, because she wasn’t a safe part of the establishment, because she was anti-establishment. And I think that might be something that Simon identifies with, because of his age. Simon’s a little bit older than me, that’s not a bad thing. But I think he might see things through a different lens, because of his age.

But what I do urge of Simon is that Simon should come and talk to me. I would invite Simon on a show with me. One-on-one. We could have a discussion one evening, live. We could field questions from our audience. And I would welcome dialogue. As I said, the last thing I want is people going over to Simon’s channel and saying anything untoward to him. As I said, most of Simon’s videos are really good. And I urge people to subscribe to him. He is one of the biggest surviving patriotic, or anti-immigration channels on YouTube. Channels that talk sense. Channels that I think would appeal to the vast majority of normal British people. So go and subscribe to him.

But I do urge him to come and talk to us. Because I think we would have a lot in common. And I think the things that I’ve said today are worthy of discussion. They’re worthy of discussion because we are not a minority yet! There is still time. There is still 40 years to change things. But it is still four decades to turn things around. And I’m certainly not losing hope.

I’m not losing hope because I think that when you give up on hope, you give up on a chance of victory. Only he is lost, who gives himself up for lost! And we as a people certainly aren’t lost yet. We have everything to fight for.

And we shouldn’t just write off our future based on the fact that our people are trapped in an illusory system of democracy. A fake system of democracy which has been fashioned to keep people voting for two parties that present exactly the same outcome.

Our people are trapped in a lie! And our goal should be to set our people free, so that they can take their destiny back, into their own hands.

Simon I hope you will come and speak to me.

Thank you so much. I hope you have a lovely weekend, and I’ll see you all again soon.

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@BritishGammon
18 hours ago
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This style of reaction video is very useful and informative. I hope you do more.
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@EarthlingCarl
17 hours ago
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– The public would probably be very interested in an explicit anti-immigration party if not for the 24/7 propaganda from the BBC/Sky News/ITV etc.
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@HennyPenny
15 hours ago
Exactly. It’s only the relentless propagandising of British people by the MSM that to object to their racial replacement means you’re evil, bad, and wicked which deters them from voting for and supporting political parties who would stop and reverse the racial eradication which is going on. The only response that Simon Webb deems acceptable or realistic is for the British to quiely grumble to themselves, whilst watching his bland YouTube videos, as they’re gradually ‘disappeared’.
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@RossdeB
13 hours ago
You bet that they would!!
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@LadyofShalott
16 hours ago
Immigration has been an unmitigated disaster for the British. Simon makes countless videos pointing this out but he offers no solutions. I do wonder about his motivations in commenting on PA in this way…
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@ImperialDissent
15 hours ago
Are you saying he is an emotional vampire who leads you to a dead-end while acknowledging your concerns?
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@HennyPenny
15 hours ago
He’s trying to demoralise those who might consider joining PA. “There is no hope”, he cries. “Just watch my YouTube videos complaining about these problems. Don’t actually organise and campaign to achieve something.”
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@togreiseren
13 hours ago
He did mention the constitutional party or something as an alternative to the two established ones
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@LostinThyme
18 hours ago
It was strange that out of the blue he’s talking about PA.
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@Guy-Fawkes
17 hours ago
Oy vey!
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@HennyPenny
15 hours ago
Not so strange. Simon Webb is just misery porn: he identifies symptoms and problems, but offers no solutions. He’s like The Daily Mail: cries about the the problems but denigrates and dismisses those who offer real solutions to those problems. He’s just tiresome and moribund.
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@Milu_the_black_dog
10 hours ago
Mate..although I agree with you…Do you realize that most of the people who call themselves dissident right can be judged for that? Starting from Sargoy and PJW…all the way down to the Golden One, RPG, AA (sometimes) and even the Jolly Heretic (sometimes)…In fact, there is only a handful of people who actually have the courage to call them out explicitly…much less look for solutions, as PA tries…But yeah…hopefully we can move the overton window because NOTHING will be fixed if we don’t address the Jew problem..
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@Stan1
15 hours ago
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Thanks Mark. Great vid.
I do hope Simon takes up your invitation, however somehow I think he will decline your offer.
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@BritishGammon
15 hours ago
I think so too. Strange how Laura’s comment mysteriously got deleted-but not by him.
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@oakwood
14 hours ago
The guy does nothing but complain about black people, yet somehow any criticism of the tribe is ‘preposterous’ and ‘stupid’.
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@NiceCat
13 hours ago
He often plays a guess the ethnicity game in his videos, but never when it come to his beloved Chosen People.
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@countrybumpkin
10 hours ago
This comment was slimed to death.
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@Milu_the_black_dog
10 hours ago
He looks like the kind of guy who thinks its okay to sacrifice millions of Europeans for the sake of fighting “evil nazis”, or fight against those “evil terrorists” in the middle East..and of course, the classic “help our greatest ally”…But when people notice the absurdities and call his bullshit, he just dismiss those criticism as “misinformation or conspiracies”…Fuck those guys..They are literal cancer for the movement..
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@GusinLanzarote
17 hours ago
The Boomers have let us down, cucked & sold out TIME & AGAIN. Look at the Tory Party; people who backed section 28 in the 80s like Theresa May now abasing themselves at the LGBT awards standing on stage & saying: “trannies are real women & a child can have 2 dads”; the evil witch only found the guts to be hostile speaking to the Police Federation. Its the same with immigration/ multiculturalism after some token resistance back in the day they have now cucked totally; wanting to hide in some 90s illusion that its a side issue & the only ethnic is your friendly corner shop owner or the Pretty women movie charming black chauffeur. Peregrine Worsthorne demonstrated this he did a TV show to “debate” the issue with Darkus Howe then cucked writing a Daily Mail article “the lesson Im proud to have learned”. Its the same with non famous boomers. This Derek I know, been here 15 years; seems to sit most days drinking vodka tonics staring vacantly at the sea, I raised the issue of Moroccans being responsible for most of the crime on the island & said perhaps they should stop immigration from there: “We were brought up to treat all races the same”, he said then changed the subject. We CANNOT RELY ON BOOMERS; they had benefits in terms of career opportunities, secure jobs, free University & home ownership we can only dream of which they FAILED to preserve for their children. WE now have to repair what THEY allowed to break.
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@Blankeon
15 hours ago
He sounds like one of those delusional “conservative” boomers that worship Winston Churchill and do their best to never sound racist. It is also a completely blackpilled argument that because it is difficult to achieve votes to support anti-immigration, we should not even try. We should always fight for what is right even if we do not succeed.
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@r.madden
14 hours ago
Reality catches up with them eventually. Look at the near wipeout of the Tories in London. They are now down to four or five councils out of 32. They tell themselves its rich leftists who are out of touch but really it’s non-Whites that have replaced the native White population. Non-White vote Labour with a 3-1 ratio.
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@Blankeon
13 hours ago
True. Mr. Webb used Sir Oswald Mosley as an example of someone who “failed” to achieve more votes, but I would argue it was Britain that failed him. If Mosley had been voted into power, Britain would have looked like a paradise compared to what the inner cities look like today. He never compromised on his ideals because his ideals were correct.
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@togreiseren
13 hours ago
He does worship Churchill, that is for sure
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@MilosM.
6 minutes ago
at least Churchill was genuine racist and not against white people. Love Churchill.
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@LadyofShalott
16 hours ago
Boomers – the most disgusting generation to have ever walked this earth.
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@Iagree
14 hours ago
Agreed. Either them or their parents.
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@Milu_the_black_dog
10 hours ago
I would normally agree..but I have to admit that those borne from pro-jabs parents will literally want to burn the whole world down for what their previous generations did…But yeah, fuck boomers!
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@Michael
10 minutes ago
I think Gen-X is actually worse
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@ChainReaction
16 hours ago
Simon is a typical jew with zero shame, our people will never reason with his kind.
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@NationalistContent
16 hours ago
He’s not a Jew:

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@Blankeon
14 hours ago
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Probably not, but he is acting like a Jew. Very nihilistic and offering no solutions.
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@NationalistContent
14 hours ago
Plenty of right wingers offer no solutions because outrage porn sells. We shouldn’t accuse people of being Jews when they are not because it makes us look dumb and it’s also demoralizing. Jews are only a tiny percent of the population but if you were to listen to the dissident right you’d think Jews are everywhere. I’ve heard people claim Lana Lokteff, Robert Sepehr, Adam Green are Jews when they are obviously not. It’s really dumb especially when people have released DNA tests and don’t have a Jewish surname.
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@Blankeon
13 hours ago
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The reason why the Jewish Question is important is because they are the the root cause of all the degeneracy and anti-whiteness we see in the West. That does not mean they are literally everywhere and that everyone pushing anti-whiteness is Jewish. I would use the example that Julius Evola uses, an Aryan/White man can also have a Jewish Spirit/Worldview and a Jew can also have an Aryan Spirit/Worldview.
Trump is a prime example of a shabbos goy, i.e. an Aryan with a Jewish spirit who does everything the Jews want.
Today all the degenerate anti-white worldviews, practices and ideas that are mainstream are Jewish in origin. For example: Marxism (Karl Marx, Trotsky & Lenin), Usury (Ancient Jewish Tradition from the Torah and Talmud), Federal Reserve (founded by Warburgs, Rothschilds, Schiffs etc.), Cultural Marxism/New Left (Frankfurt School Jews like Marcuse, Adorno & Horkheimer), Transgenderism (Magnus Hirschfeld & Arthur Kronfeldt), Race denialism (Richard Lewontin & Franz Boas), Nuclear weapons (Oppenheimer & Szilard), The sexual revolution/hippie movement (Richard Reich, Abbie Hoffman), modern Feminism (Judith Butler) … I can go on forever but I guess you see the point.
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@ChainReaction
11 hours ago
Yes, because I’ll believe a jew with a hebrew necklace over my decades of experience and instincts.
Even if not, shabbos-goys are an even worse cancer and the actual traitors, complaining about the rape of our women and children and murder of our men, while deflecting from the root cause.
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@NiceCat
13 hours ago
He did a DNA test video to show he is not Jewish, despite having the nose for it.
More to the point, he is very pro-Zionist.
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@Milu_the_black_dog
10 hours ago
Not all those pro-zionism are jews, mate…But that doesn’t change the fact that he should be punished together with some other nasty jews…
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@ChainReaction
4 hours ago
I addressed this in another reply in this thread.
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@MrVans
11 hours ago
whats interesting is that he just endorsed the english constitutional party. reminds me of a certain other someone saying in one breath “there is no electoral solution” and in the next endorses the british freedom party…
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@r.madden
14 hours ago
Yes Nick Griffin and Jim Dowson spring to mind.
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@mikey2363
15 hours ago
Excellent summarisation Mark. Always finish on a positive.
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@PatrickBurns
18 hours ago
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@JamesL
14 hours ago
A most appropriate, considered response,
@MarkCollett
and which leaves the door open for Mr Webb to take you up on your offer of a chat
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@Eichhe2
15 hours ago
Enjoyed this. Good breakdown.
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@Dumnonia
15 hours ago
This is the correct response. Mr Webb’s video was nowhere near as bad as I was led to believe. His views
are likely held in common with a lot of British people, so a dialogue could be worthwhile.
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@HennyPenny
15 hours ago
If Simon Webb were ever to enter a dialogue with real truth tellers, his YouTube channel would disappear faster than snow in the sun of the Sahara Desert at midday. He’s in it for the money. Solutions to the problems he highlights would remove that (as he’d have less to complain about).
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@Dumnonia
15 hours ago
Not everyone on YT is a grifter, even now. My impression is that he is genuine.
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@HennyPenny
15 hours ago
My impression is that he knows where he cannot tread (i.e. where it might make a difference) and so avoids those areas completely or denies that there is any validity to observations advanced by others. The JQ being a very obvious example (he completely denies any ‘patterns’ of behaviour by (((them))).
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@Lajnis
12 hours ago
Is he on the same Tier as ziocucks like pat condell, Nigel garage etc?

@r.madden
15 hours ago
((He)) knows what he can and can’t say.
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@r.madden
17 hours ago
Simon Webb is a retard and boomer cuck.
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@NATIONAL-SAXONIST
13 hours ago
Webbs point ultimately boils down to the classic detestable and cowardly conservative position of “it’s hard so don’t bother”.
The motto of every conservative minded person like this Simon Webb is put simply, “don’t try, just die”.
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@EscapeVelocity
17 hours ago
One of the biggest changes has been the emergence of Sinn Fein as the major nationalist party in NI (and more dramatically in their rapid growth from electoral inconsequence to becoming a major player in the 26 counties). Of course, they have completely betrayed their principles and have become effectively an advocacy group for geeks, freaks, quasimodos and whatever slop washes up on the beach.
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@Fugitive
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IRA/Sinn Fein are not nationlists they are fully on board with mass immigration globohomo agenda, IRA/Sinn Fein proclaim to be National Solicialists so people assume they are genuine Nationalists in reality they are Communist Marxists Scum, they believe anybody can be Irish and demographics don’t matter in fact they love mass immigration as a multiracial culture will make it easier to implement Communism
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@EscapeVelocity
6 hours ago
Yes, I’m quite well aware of that
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@MilosM.
5 minutes ago
they are civnat nationalists and socialists, nuff said.
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@Baxter_MacTavish
15 hours ago
who is this old man simon webb and why does anyone care about him?
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@HennyPenny
15 hours ago
Trouble is that he is another ‘gatekeeper’ with quite a large following on YouTube. He acknowledges what’s happening and that it’s bad, but diverts attention from the source of the problems and denigrates those who seek to provide real opposition. He is about achieving demoralisation of potential PA members whilst appearing to be ‘reasonable’ at the same time. He does it well.
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@oakwood
14 hours ago
a 100k subscriber youtube gatekeeper
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@Articulus
12 hours ago
No offense but what use are 100K boomers who I guess make up the majority of his audience? Especially boomers who are inactive and just want to moan. We need to get out of this faux popularity contest as we know the numbers are rigged anyway.
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@NationalistContent
12 hours ago
Dismissing the majority of his audience as “boomers” sounds like a cope and we should try to red pill as many as possible regardless of how old they are. PA has supporters who are boomers. If he makes a video about PA then of course we should respond and correct any mistakes rather than ignoring it and dismissing his audience.
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@Michael57DE
13 hours ago
I’m sure Simon means well but, he’s a deracinated (I don’t see or Color doesn’t matter) CivNat. That said, his conclusions lean Anti-White.
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@Mintberrycrunch
14 hours ago
Very cogent arguments as always, Mark. Well done. I do hope Simon corrects his factual inaccuracies and misinterpretations and gathers some courage to do something about the problem, but then that would jeopardise his channel, wouldn’t it.
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@PopcornPower
15 hours ago
Political parties have been replaced before. In the US it started out as Federalists vs the Democratic-Republicans. Then it became Whigs vs. Democrats. Then the Whigs were replaced making it Republicans vs. Democrats. That was back in 1870. Now you can try to argue that this isn’t possible in this day and age for various reasons. Of course I bet you can find many countries where one of the parties have been replaced in a 2 party system.
The only reason why a political party cannot be replaced is if people are convinced it can’t be done and don’t even try.
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@Argyrodes
11 hours ago
Simon is an autistic liberal that cares more about himself, and his holdings then his race, or nation.
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@RossdeB
13 hours ago
I think Simon is a member of the awkward squad; he has good intentions and has a healthy lack of trust in government, all power structures and committees.
He is a committed zionist, but seems to fail to see the distinct difference in Israel in the 60s, with ideas of the kibbutz, and the subsequent monstrosities of the Likud party, with the preaching of Begin, Shamir, Sharon and Netanyahu et al.
Need one say more?
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@SociallyAwareNationalism
13 hours ago
the only real thing Simon had to say is that it’s not going to succeed because mark can’t stop riding the grifting drug addict degenerate pretending to be “right wing” gunt
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@r.madden
16 hours ago
The Alternative Voting system isn’t proportional representation. It retains the current constituencies but voters get to rank the candidates in order of preference. A voter just wanting to vote for, say the Liberal Democrats but nobody else, would write a 1 alongside the Liberal Democrat candidate and leave all the other boxes blank.
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@Weltenesche
4 hours ago
The Boomers are, for the most part, a lost generation.
You cannot teach an old dog new tricks, and they’ve been completely blinded by WW2 and post-war propaganda.
They didn’t have access to the internet, where truths are finally starting to re-emerge, and now they’re too set in their ways.
The future lies with the youth.
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@WhiteRoan
5 hours ago
A great approach. Polite but robust.
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@elodiesheraton
6 hours ago
Excellent response. Do more of these please Mark. I’m looking forward to your response to CH4’s hit piece on PA !
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@GrahamOnGames
7 hours ago
I like Simon and I understand where he is coming from regarding the hopelessness it seems the established political system is. I think he is saying what you were essentially saying at the end of the video. I really hope PA can breakthrough and uproot this system.
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@303LeeMetford
8 hours ago
Good response Mark.
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@Ste
9 hours ago
A much welcome positive & mature response. I hope Simon accepts your invitation as he does create excellent videos and would make for interesting conversation.
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@JohnPalmer
11 hours ago
FANTASTIC video, Sir!
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@Dyingcockneys
13 hours ago
politics will not save us
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@Outtolive
11 hours ago
Agree. Our people think they are smart. Plain and simple; if your brainwashed by info from the system that glorifies hate of yourself then the credibility goes to the one who have resisted the hate the longest.
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@Iagree
14 hours ago
this is why it’s imperative to hammer home to people about the true conservative immigration policy.
it’s harder to do than with labour because people believe words of politicians despite their deeds.
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@ericmoss
18 hours ago
it’s not “designed” as a two-party system, that’s how electorates have always emerged throughout history. it’s because there are only two answers to every decision: yes or no. “designed” – hah!
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@MilosM.
38 seconds ago
great response. modest and eloquent. I don’t think Simon is bad guy or zionist here, but he is misguided.
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@James_Smith
5 hours ago
Two Party Jew Party.
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@Englishbullterrier
7 hours ago
Good vid. i hope his followers listen and find it helpful. i often lurk on Simons vids gotta try to give these people the final nudge! . im sure ive mentioned numerous times that his followers need to be listening to you, Mark Simon, churns out many vids, about this anti white narrative. However, unlike you, he offers no insight ,education or solutions.. i’ve seen him incorrectly pull someone on their use of the English language/ spelling which was also wrong. and total cringe. I hope his followers take the leap, listen to the likes of Mark and end up in the PA camp, where we all end up once educated . its where we all belong
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@Beavis-N-Butthurt
7 hours ago
Proportional representation will be bought in after whites become a minority and the reigns of power are handed over to non-whites and thus triggering the planned race wars.
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@whitewood
9 hours ago
I like the deliberate coughing in your video Mark. Really mimicking Simons video with that distinct cough haha.
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@Outtolive
11 hours ago
Simon has been influenced by anti white British propaganda all his life typically. Need to be free of brain washing hate of whites about 20 or 30 years to talk clearly and sane. PA members and nationalists typically have been resisting brainwashing to hating themselves decades. Our racial identity is more mature as it was from the 1990s and earlier. Being older is not always a measure to be a good racialist.
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@simplistic_irony
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Go on, Mark!
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[Brythonic Tea Time # 6 brings us several guests to discuss the ongoing genocide of Whites being carried out by Orgjew and its proxies, amid current events.

— KATANA]

Brythonic – Tea Time # 6

Mark Collett, Unwashed, Ronny Cameron,

Son of Allfather, Brizer

Mar 6, 2020

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Brythonic

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Livestreaming on Friday March 6th 2020 from 7:00pm UK time.

Joining the stream today from Great Britain is Mark Collett and Unwashed, from Canada is Ronny Cameron, from USA is Son of the Allfather, and from Ireland is Brizer.

Legal disclaimer: Nothing we say in this stream is intended or meant in a defamatory or hateful manner, nor to defame or incite hate. We will be discussing historical events through different perspectives which may contrast and/or give context to the official agreed-upon narrative which the general population is encouraged and/or forced to believe, or in short “history written by the victors”. We will try to keep this discussion within the bounds which YouTube and the ADL has set. Those boundaries are shifting day by day, but nevertheless, we are giving our perspective as we see it. We harbour no hatred towards any group of people; either national, ethnic, racial, or religious. We express this in good faith and kindly ask to remain uncensored on the wonderful public space that is YouTube. Thank you for this opportunity to engage in and enjoy the free exchange of ideas and perspectives.

Link of the day:
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Potential topics:

– Greece being invaded by Turkey, with Erdogan calling for ever more invaders to rush into Greece. Turkey has deployed special forces to fight the Greek border guards. Is this war?

– Amnesty International condemns Greece’s measures to block migrants at Turkish border as “inhumane” and “reckless”. Is this NGO intentionally part of the overall agenda to flood Europe with migrants, or are they unknowingly playing into the agenda that Turkey and much of the mainstream media have for Europe?

– Mark Collett’s video on the NGOs involved with importing migrants into Europe has disappeared on YouTube? Now on his BitChute channel.

– Grooming Gang Review petition, and how people with British blood who aren’t UK citizens are, in the eyes of the current UK government, lesser than people with a British passport without British blood. Why can’t people of British ancestry vote, but invaders can? Sign and share the petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petiti…

– Why are we having a points-based immigration system rather than adopting a family reward system / breeding program for native Britons?

– The rise of Unwashed’s channel, and him being booted off of youtube and subsequently having to rely on DLive.

– The Irish election (Brizer)

– Canadian secession (Ronny), and Ronny’s connection to Richard Spencer’s brand of secession. In terms of Fight or Flight, this is a hardline Flight stance, or ethno-separatism. How realistic is this in comparison to a “ Stand Your Ground ” stance? What is the end goal and methods for either path?

– Tommy Robinson, and his Hearts of Oak party. Can he be held accountable for the missing donation money, his broken promises of various documentaries etc, and his shattered credibility? What do we say to his hard-line followers and Israel supporters?

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Mark Collett
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Unwashed

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1MK…

https://dlive.tv/UNWAShED

Ronny Cameron / Proper Gander TV
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo32…

Son Of The Allfather
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheTimmae21
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Brizer
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Brythonic: And today is Friday March 6th. Welcome to the Tea Time # 6. Joining the stream today from Great Britain is Mark Collett and Unwashed. From Canada is Ronnie Cameron. From USA is Son of the All Father. And from Ireland is Brizer. Welcome everybody!

UNWAShED: Hello.

Brizer: Hello everyone. Good to be here.

Brythonic: Good. And before we start just wanted to ask all listeners to see the legal disclaimer in the video description. And now we can introduce each guest, starting with Mark.

Mark: Hello everybody. It’s great to be here tonight. It’s been a long time since I’ve worked with you Oliver, in fact, last time I think we did something together you had a stream called the Brexit party. So it’s good to be back and it’s good to see you back on YouTube.

Brythonic: Yes, indeed. That was a different time, seemingly.

Mark: It got pinched didn’t it? The name of your group got pinched by Nigel Farage and turned into something much larger!

Brythonic: Yeah, even the font and the logo seems to be very similar. So I wonder if they saw it and thought that’s a good idea.

Mark: Well it certainly worked out for them didn’t it?

Brythonic: Yeah sure. Okay is anything else you’d like to introduce yourself with, or can we move on to the next guest?

Mark: No I think most people know who I am, so I don’t want to hog the mic space. Let’s go around the introductions and get into the main chat.

Brythonic: All right next we have Unwashed.

UNWAShED: How’s it going everyone?

AllFather: It’s going fantastic my friend.

UNWAShED: Excellent! It’s good to connect with people. I’ve been booted off YouTube for a week today, so I do need to rely on other people for the next seven days!

Brythonic: How about you Ronny?

Ronnie: Well I don’t mind taking up some time here to describe my positions and promote myself a little bit. My name is Ronnie Cameron. I run a YouTube channel called Proper Gander TV. I’m based of Toronto here in Canada. I’ve been involved in politics for about like three, or four years now. I consider myself to be part of the pro-White rights, or the dissident Right.

Lately I’ve been very focused around the idea of secession particularly here in Canada, and the US. And I’m happy to be here tonight. I think Brythonic you have an excellent channel. That’s been growing, seems to be growing very fast I must say. And you’re bringing along some excellent guests. So thank you again for having me and I’m looking forward to getting into the topics here.

Brythonic: Fantastic and Son of the AllFather?

AllFather: Hi, good morning, or good evening, wherever you are. I go by the screen name “Son of the AllFather”. It’s just a little bit of a narcissistic joke that I used to use as just my profile before I had a channel. And I was commenting a lot on different YouTube channels, dissident Right channels and some people said:

“Hey why don’t you start making some videos?”

So I did. I have a small channel right now. I have about fourteen hundred subscribers I think, but some very loyal viewers and they’ve been nice enough to include me on some of these chats recently. So I’m a nationalist from the United States. Currently in the what we like to call the northwestern redoubt, up here in the Pacific Northwest. And I focus mainly on demographic replacements, indigenous right issues, and things of that nature.

Brythonic: And last but not least, Brizer.

Brizer: Yes, hi folks. This is Brizer. I was on with Brythonic’s show last week, which was great, with Paul English and Dennis Wise. I run a radio show every Monday between 10:00 and midnight. Which goes out on grissom dot blogspot.com. And we cover all sorts of issues such as mass invasion of our White nations, the JQ, geopolitics, health, all sorts of different issues. We’re doing very well at the moment.

Great to make the acquaintance of the other guys here. I know of Mark alright quite well. Watched a lot of your YouTube’s. The other guys I don’t know, but it’s good to make your acquaintance and it’s great to be here again. So thanks for inviting me.

Brythonic: Very good. And I wanted to jump within two seemingly the most pertinent issue right now is our situation in Greece. And seemingly it’s being invaded by Turkey, with Erdogan calling for ever more invaders to rush into Greece. And apparently Turkey has deployed special forces to fight the Greek border guards [05:00]. And wondering if this is start of a possible war. Anyone has a any comments?

UNWAShED: I’m urging Europeans to change the language on this one. And I think it’s working as well. Is to refer to them as “invaders”, because the footage of how they’re actually acting and what the crowds look like came out too quick.

So the BBC will still do its routine of getting as many women and children out that, yeah, getting the footage of women and children out. But I mean, Mark’s video today was all about how they’ve been caught red-handed.

We already discovered that they were training migrants, I don’t know what you’d rather, I call them, but these people they were training them how to act to garner the most sympathy. But this time around it’s like we’ve been too quick for it. And they all arrived at once and there was just no way to hide what they really are, which is invaders. That would be my two cents.

Ronnie: Yeah, if nobody else wants to right now. I think it’s pretty clear that Greece and the rest of Europe do not want this type of invasion. I think 80% of Greeks plus are opposed to the current levels, or raising it any further. It’s only like two percent of Greeks want more immigration. And this might not hold true across the entirety of Europe, but if you’re talking to dissident folks, if you’re talking to the right wing, I’m sure we would see similar numbers across Europe.

I think it’s also pretty clear that Turkey is pretty much dug their own grave, so to say. They make the excuse that’s the EU has not followed through on their end of the bargain. But basically what’s happening right now is they’ve just opened the floodgates, because of their involvement in Syria. And they’re worried that there’s going to be more Syrian refugees coming into the country. I think they’re already home to around like 3, or for million refugees, which is Syrian refugees. So they’re afraid that they’re going to basically have more than what they can handle. But this is directly a result of their own responsibility for backing the rebels in Syria, right? So they’re just trying to pass the buck on to Europe.

Europe sniffs it out. Europe understands what’s going on. And I think it’s great that Greece and Europe are standing together in solidarity on this one.

UNWAShED: The other issue, is that they’re not Syrian. Like the majority of these people are definitely not Syrian! You can tell just by looking at them.

AllFather: Right.

UNWAShED: And I think that bit of the narrative is falling apart as well. I think people aren’t falling for that.

AllFather: Right I mean, some of the people you saw on Marks channel, the earlier video, clearly African.

UNWAShED: Yeah.

AllFather: And what were they doing in Turkey in the first place? That’s my question.

I’m kind of surprised honestly I didn’t have a whole lot of faith in the, I don’t know what you’d want to call them. I mean, maybe a center-right party that took control there in Greece. But I guess, at this point, they really have no other no other choice given what happened back in 2015 and 2016, and the subsequent rise in popularism, as a result of that invasion. And they see that it’s happening again. They really have, the EU really has no other choice, at this point, at least to pretend, at least, that they are in solidarity with Greece, at this point.

UNWAShED: Yes, I suppose they have to keep up that pretense at the moment don’t they? Because yeah as we say, they’ve lost the optics battle. It happened too quickly. So they have to be like:

“Oh okay we defend Greece?

But that’s not what they want to do.

AllFather: And this is even worse, because they didn’t invite this invasion, so I mean, this was orchestrated and engineered by a foreign power, who has, you know, obviously had some tumultuous relationships with the EU up to this point. And has, you know, been questionable in the way that he’s dealt with his relations with the EU. Speaking of Erdogan, of course.

Mark: I think the thing with Erdogan is really, he’s playing a very powerful card here isn’t? He’s saying he wants more money. He wants recognition. He wants the EU to take Turkey seriously. And if they don’t, he’s going to unleash wave upon wave of immigrants on the West. And as someone so rightly pointed out, these aren’t just [10:01] Syrian refugees. These aren’t just refugees from the Middle East. These are people from all over the world. They’re clearly economic migrants. They clearly don’t want to go back to wherever they came from.

You’ve got to remember, and this should always be made very clear to any of these liberals who are talking about our obligations. Well our obligations to other countries end at France, Germany, Denmark! Countries that border us. Because refugees are meant to settle in the first peaceful nation they reach. Take aid in that nation. And then return home when their country is again stable.

Now Syria is for a large part now a stable country again. The war is all but over. President Assad is now back in control. He runs a secular government. And these people could be returning home en mass. But instead there’s 3.7 million Syrian refugees in Turkey still. And they all want to come to Europe.

So these aren’t really refugees, they’re economic migrants. And as I said, they’re not just Syrians, there are also people from all over Africa and all over the Middle East. And they want to come here, because when they get here, as I say it’s not the first peaceful nation they reach, but it is the nation, or group of nations that give out the most when it comes to benefits!

So this is all about coming here to milk our systems! And it’s also not about coming here to embrace our culture. Another great lie the Left love to say is:

“Oh well then they come here they’re gonna be just like us, because if they want you to be like Syrians, or if they wanted to be like Afghanistan, like people live in Afghanistan, or they want to be like Pakistanis, they would stay in Pakistan, or Afghanistan, or Syria. But they don’t! They come here, because when they come here they want to be British! They want to live a Western life!”

But they don’t! They want to live in Britain just as they lived in Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Syria but with British benefits. With a free house, with free electric, with free gas, with central heating, with travel allowances, with an interpreter, with generous handouts every week, with the NHS, with an education system that bends over backwards to provide everything for people who’ve just arrived!

So they’re just bringing in their own cultures, their own ways of life, setting up a little enclaves. And that enclave is funded and paid for by the British taxpayer!

And these things are all very, very important to point out, because they absolutely undermine, don’t just undermine they completely destroy the leftist argument on this subject! It is very right call them an invading force.

But I think the real scandal about this, and I covered this in my video today. It really is quite touching that you guys watched that. I’m just thankful that you do watch my videos. But the point is the media is on their side. The media are creating, choreographing, and staging photos to make us feel sorry for these people!

And when you look at these photos they’re all the same! They all a close crop, a still image, and it’s always a crying child, a wailing woman! But when you pan out and see the truth these children aren’t in danger! In fact, the parents are holding them over open fires, so they get smoke in their eyes and cry. So it’s a better picture for the camera.

And you can see that our media and the people who run our media, are absolutely complicit in this invasion! These people are committing acts of treason by trying to solicit sympathy from those of European descent for an invading army!

Ronnie: And the migration is absolutely 100% organized! I mean, they’re using buses, mini buses, cars, taxis, coming straight from Istanbul to essentially ferry these people across the border. And yeah absolutely it’s not just Syrian migrants as you guys pointed out. It’s this is a deliberate attempt to flood Europe with an Islamic invasion!

UNWAShED: I wonder whether when it comes as such a huge wave like this all at once, whether it’s actually really helpful for like nationalism, as compared to the drip, drip, approach? Because this has got everyone talking all of a sudden, because it’s an emergency. So in terms of sentiment for the kind of things that we believe, I believe this will help us.

Ronnie: Oh yes absolutely. I mean, the European Commission President, I forget her name at the moment, but she said that basically the Greece is acting like a shield for the entirety of Europe. They’re sending in helicopters, and boats, border guards, all sorts of reinforcements for Greece. So I think [15:01] this really is a symbolic of the unity that is starting to grow amongst Europeans.

UNWAShED: Yeah I mean, it’s super irony that Europe is gonna have to unite, at this point, against the European Union! It’s just a paradox in itself!

Ronnie: Yes.

Brizer: Yeah, I think that also reminds me about five, or six years ago we saw the dead baby on the beach and we had all the photographers were there waiting to see it. And it just smacks of that again. But I think people kind of fell for it the first time. They felt sorry for these poor Syrian refugees and everything and said:

“Oh yeah we should take them in?

UNWAShED: And now we look at the consequences of it five, or six years later. And I think people are going:

“No! No! Hold on a second!”

Turkey is an interesting country, because where it’s situated. It’s a gateway between east and west. And it’s a member of NATO. It also has aspirations I think to join EU. And it’s also quite closely aligned with Russia as well. So it’s interesting to know what Erdogan’s up to there, you know. I think he’s, you know, as Mark says, he’s playing kind of a clever card here. What can we do here, because he knows he’s got these millions of these refugees there and he can unleash them at any point.

So yeah, it’s interesting where this will go, you know. But I think it is definitely, look this is an invasion there at that border, ready to cross. And thousands and thousands of them. And yeah, we got to stop it, because if they come in, we’re gone! Within a few years we will be gone! Because there’s millions of them, ready to come over. And if Turkeys a landing point where they can come through, well there we go!

Ronnie: Well, I know the EU is typically an enemy of ours, right? So I don’t want to mitigate that aspect. We have to be honest with the facts. And they have condemned Turkey’s policies, right? The EU Council put a statement saying:

“It expresses solidarity with Greece and strongly rejects Turkeys use of migratory pressure for political purposes. This situation at EU’s external borders is not acceptable?

UNWAShED: So I mean, we do have to kind of appreciate that for what it is. But again, not to mitigate the fact that the EU is typically not our friend.

UNWAShED: Well, it’s a rejection of what Turkey’s doing right at the moment. And I’m sure they’re not even lying in that, but the end result is the same. And we know that the EU is absolutely fine with that end result. So it’s an empty, empty, gesture as far as I’m concerned!

Ronnie: Similar to what Trump issues in the States, I’m sure.

AllFather: Yeah definitely. This type of thing has been happening at our southern border for four decades, you know. It’s like you were saying that the EU at some times will reveal some kind of shred of truth.

And I remember, I think it was during the, I think it was 2016 if I remember correctly, but I can’t remember what his name was. He was a Dutch politician that was, I think that he was a vice President of the Commission, or something. But he admitted that more than half of the people that were coming into Europe, they were coming from countries where, you know, they could basically assume that they had no reason to ask for refugee status, whatsoever. I think he said it was half, or maybe even 60% of the people. So I mean, that got disseminated by mainstream, you know, globalist left-wing media outlets. I think the Independent actually had an article about that.

Brizer: And I’m wondering like Turkey obviously, that was the center of the Ottoman Empire, and I’m just wondering are they trying to rebuild another type of Empire? And are they working with another (((little country))) in the Middle East to achieve that? Because I don’t know why they’re going into Syria and causing these problems anyway in the first place. So I don’t know if any guys have thoughts on that?

UNWAShED: I like what you say about the Ottoman Empire, because what’s going on right now with these invasions, and then you get incidents like Cologne, New Year’s Eve. That’s what the Ottoman Empire has been doing for 1400 years! It’s just that people have essentially forgotten, or they’ve been brainwashed to not see it! Because they don’t see in terms of different ethnic groups anymore.

But yeah like, you know, Christendom was defending against exactly this! The whole time it’s been around, until now. We got to reawaken that spirit! [20:01]

Brythonic: Erdogan basically was referring to himself as the new Sultan, or something right?

UNWAShED: I don’t know. I didn’t see that, but I know that they think in this kind of time scale. Whilst we don’t.

Mark: Well, I’ll say about this and what it reawakens in people, is it does, this kind of flood, and this kind of scale, and this kind of immediate threat, does awaken people’s natural instincts. You’ve got to remember that. I’m not a fan of accelerationism, because accelerationism is a very, very dangerous thing! Especially when we’re not particularly well organized.

Now if we had a national structure that was all over the UK, and just ready for hundreds of thousands of new recruits, and then there was a rapid accelerationism, that might actually play into our hands. But until we’ve got the infrastructure to deal with that that sort of influx of recruits, accelerationism isn’t a great thing. But this is kind of the best of both worlds, because it’s a rapid accelerationism in terms of migrants of the border, in terms of the threat. But at the moment this threat isn’t actually a viable threat, because these people aren’t getting into Europe. They’re being turned away.

So I think this does show people a glimpse of the future. But at the moment, because these people are being repelled, it’s quite a safe level of accelerationism, because the Greeks just aren’t letting them in. And as long as the Greeks hold the line, and as long as the British people, and people all over Europe for that matter, see the size and scale of the threat, without it actually materializing, without these people actually getting through, and being redistributed all over Europe, I think this will spread a lot of red pills! I think there’s gonna be a lot of people over the last week, or so, and moving forward, saying to themselves:

“You know what? This is a massive problem! We’re talking about millions and millions of people! This is an invasion!”

And when you see specifically tens and tens of thousands of mainly men of fighting age, because there were many of these pictures that sneaked through. A lot of these pictures are meant to solicit sympathy, but some of them do show vast numbers of young men, stood the other side of barbed wire fences. These aren’t all women, children, elderly. A lot of these are guys that you would expect if their country was at war, they’d sign up. But they’re not signing up. They’re coming here to sign up for something different, which is obviously our benefits system!

So I do think this has been a big red pill for many people. And it’s the kind of event that if we were in a more organized state and we did have a national structure, we could have really benefited from. Because I bet, there’s been many, many families, up and down Britain, and in other countries for that matter, who around the dinner table, this has been a major topic of discussion. And people will be very, very sympathetic to our political stance on that topic.

Ronnie: Well said Mark. I completely agree with you. I think this is win-win for both the pragmatists, and the accelerationists, because obviously this does kind of accelerate things. But, because we’re handling it correctly, this allows us to kind of to keep our morale, this allows us to keep a positive mindset towards things, moving in the future. So this is very symbolic of our unity. But it also reveals the very serious nature of the problem at hand. So I think this is pretty much perfect press in terms of being able to galvanize our base and bring us together!

UNWAShED: Another element is that Greece, the people that like to bang on about privilege, they simply can’t do it with Greece, because Greece has been the downtrodden member of the European Union for years, and everyone knows it. So the idea that the Greeks can take on any more people, is absurd! Like their economics already crumbled! So, you know, that narrative that they’d normally like to play of the “privileged White man” and, you know, got to help the Africans, it’s not gonna work in Greece. Because then they’re not privileged at all.

Brizer: I would agree there. I mean, after 2008 the financial collapse, Greece was absolutely hammered by the banksters, you know. And unemployment is rife, particularly among young people. Young people have left. Tourism which is one of our main industries has been hugely affected by this. And so they’ve had 10 years, 10, or 12 years of absolute austerity and are fed up with it! And now [25:01] to see their borders being encroached like this, and all these people running through, they’re not having it.

And so yeah, you’re correct that that whole White privilege, you know, for Greece, well it just doesn’t apply to them. And so yeah, I think it will, it will wake people up big time! So interesting times. As long as, you know, this law of unintended consequences, like things like these happen out of the blue, and this is where we can find a jump in and take advantage of these. So it’s a good point.

Brythonic: Indeed. I just wanted to add in the second point we’ve got about Amnesty International condemning Greece’s measures to block migrants at the Turkish border, as quote:

“Inhumane and reckless?

Is this NGO intentionally part of the overall agenda to flood Europe with migrants, or are they unknowingly playing into the agenda that Turkey and much of the Western mainstream media have for Europe?

Brizer: I think Amnesty are very much part of the whole thing! Part of the whole NGO industrial complex! And you can see what like, for example, what they did here in Ireland with the abortion referendum. They were funding a lot of groups here. So they’re very much part of this. And I’m sure there’s Soros’ money behind it as well. So yeah, when I see Amnesty international supporting, thinking that what’s happening in Greece is terrible and we should do something about it, it’s the same old same, same old, isn’t it?

So we just, I think we just ignore these people! I mean, who the hell are they anyway? They’re just a bunch of overpaid, liberal, idiots, who have not a clue about what’s going on! It’s not at their front door! So yeah, we have to find a way of dealing with these people, these NGOs. Who the hell are they and where do they get their authority from?

UNWAShED: It’s a bit of a mask slip for Amnesty, because I saw that this week. And this is such a polarized issue with so few people on the side of the invaders, that Amnesty come out of it looking like, well, not just looking like idiots, but it’s kind of obvious that they’re in on it. When they condemn Greece, but pretty much none of the European people do, most of the European people are on the side of Greece, all that’s going to do is damage Amnesty’s standing in the eyes of normies, I would hope!

AllFather: Amnesty, you know, this is not obviously the first disgusting thing that they’ve done. They’re constantly reporting disproportionately on basically countries that are, well for lack, you know, more democratic, more open, whatever, more White basically is what it really boils down to.

And instead of kind of compiling reports on human rights abuses that kind of apply to everywhere in the world, they’re gonna focus on majority European countries. And they’ve always done this. I mentioned this briefly in a video I made a few I don’t know a few months ago I think. But it’s called “Demonstration Effect”. What they basically do is they just “guilt”, they overly report on European majority countries, what they like to call developed countries, but they don’t report on any non-White developed countries like China, obviously India, where there are serious human rights abuses occurring! You know, slavery, all kinds of human trafficking, and stuff like that.

Now they’re gonna more focus on something if it makes Europeans and the West look bad. So, that’s basically what they do. They do it with humans rights abuses, they do it with refugees, they do it with women’s rights. They do it with all sorts of things. It’s disgusting, hypocritical behavior that they take part in!

Brythonic: Yes indeed. In terms of things going on in Britain, with these invaders that are ever multiplying, and, you know, our native population ever decreasing, I think there’s the petition that came out. The Grooming Gang Review Petition. I’m wondering if any of you have signed it?

Mark: I do intend to sign that, but I’ve got to say, I don’t think those petitions really have much of a effect.

I think that the big problem here is the people have been really conned by the Conservatives. People think that Boris Johnson is this [30:02] great Patriot, he’s a man who’s going to bring about Brexit! He’s gonna get immigration under control! But really and I was saying this before the election, Boris Johnson was actually saying very similar things to Jeremy Corbyn on several issues. It’s just Boris Johnson says what he says with a lot better use of language. He’s a much better marketing man than Jeremy Corbyn. So Jeremy Corbyn will say:

“Well we want open borders, and we want people from all over the world to come here! And we want to let illegal immigrants vote!”

Well that sounds pretty horrendous, but Boris will say:

“But we don’t want any upper limit on immigration, we just want a points-based system. But we would like to open up the immigration debate to African nations. And speak to them and see who we could, how we could help them come here. Because let’s face it, if we take the best from Africa, what’s the problem?”

And then he says:

“And although we don’t want to let illegal immigrants vote, we do want to have an amnesty for illegal immigrants! Because, you know, if they’ve been here for five, ten years, it’d be unfair to send them anywhere else?

So essentially what’s he said, well the same as Jeremy Corbyn, but he said it in such a way that people are cheering, because he’s used words like “amnesty”. He’s used words like “point based immigration system”.

Well, a points-based immigration system doesn’t mean no immigration. In fact, he openly said he wanted no upper limit on immigration! He openly said he wanted an amnesty! He called for an amnesty for illegal immigrants when he was Mayor of London. He’s more, or less saying that an amnesty for illegal immigrants means giving them a passport, which means giving them the right to vote! That’s exactly the same!

However, I do think we should obviously sign this. I do think it’s a massive, massive, betrayal that the Conservatives yet again, you know, clothe themselves as patriots, but are denying people the truth. And the reason they are denying people the truth is quite obvious, on three levels.

Firstly, it will show, this report will show, that the problem is far more widespread than we thought.

Secondly, it will show that the people carrying out this abuse are overwhelmingly of one particular ethnicity, and our targetting overwhelmingly one particular ethnicity! And, you know, exactly what I mean, when I say that! No need to go into that any further.

And thirdly, it will also show that the complicity of the establishment in these crimes is also much greater than we previously thought. And I’m not just talking about the police, and social services, and local councils. I believe that there is sufficient evidence to suggest that these orders to ignore grooming gangs go right the way to Gordon Brown! To Gordon Brown’s office, and to Home Secretary’s who have worked under the previous Labor establishment before the Conservatives got into power in 2010.

And you have to remember, we [White nationalists] are quite unique, when it comes to politics, for many reasons. But one of the reasons that we are so unique is, because we actually do despise the other parties for what they’re doing. I don’t want to be friends with Conservatives! I don’t want to be friends with people from the Labour Party, or the Lib Dems, or from the SNP! I despise these people! They are disgusting traitors who are destroying our country, and selling us out!

But all these other parties, treat politics like it’s a football match, or, not a football match, because football actually gets quite heated sometimes. Sometimes you see players have a punch-up mid-match, or attack each other in the tunnel when they’re going off at the end of the match, because of a bad decision, or somebody doing something that’s been an illegal, and the referee missed it. So football does get quite passionate.

It’s more like cricket actually, because cricket never really gets passionate, as it’s quite boring.

And politicians treat politics like a game of cricket. And when they finish their little debates in the chamber. When they finish their elections, they’ll all sit around and have tea and cakes with each other. And sit in one of the numerous bars in the Palace of Westminster having a drink with each other! They don’t actually fall out! They don’t actually have disagreements.

And when one party betrays the people to a greater degree than the other and actually puts the British people in grave danger, the other party that comes in after that party, never exposes their predecessors! They never push for legislation to see their predecessors prosecuted.

It was like Tony Blair. Tony Blair admitted that he lied! He admitted that he took Britain to war on a lie! Yet he hasn’t been prosecuted! And no Prime Minister after him has called for an investigation, or a prosecution into his behavior.

Sure he admitted under [35:02] oath in Parliament that he gave false information, and that all came out in the Chilcote inquiry. But he’s not going to be prosecuted for that.

Yet thousands of British service personnel came home either in body bags, or with terrible, terrible, disfigurement, terrible disabilities, because of his lie! Yet, there he is, a millionaire, free to do as he pleases!

Because these people despite the fact they’re meant to be on opposite sides of this great political divide, to them it’s just a game of cricket! And afterwards they’ll be sat in the clubhouse eating little sandwiches, eating slices of cake, and drinking cups of tea, chatting like their best mates!

Whereas we are very different. And if we got in, we would absolutely tear up the current system and expose the crimes against the indigenous people! And wish to see prosecutions against people who authorized those crimes. And I think that’s fair. And I think that’s also something that makes us stand out as better people.

Ronnie: Absolutely! And I just want to touch on one thing that you said earlier there, but the point base immigration system. We have that here in Canada, and let me tell you it does not work! All it does is just shift the burden from the lower class, or the lower middle class, to the middle class, to the lower upper middle class. Because now you have high IQ, or skilled, immigrants coming into the country, and they’re after your job. They’re after the middle class jobs.

And to be honest, I think this is actually worse than what’s happening in the States with respect to the migration coming from Mexico and Central America. Because, yes, that does burden the lower class, but we have to be honest with ourselves. In the future many of these jobs are just going to become automated. But the middle to upper class jobs will not. And we need to preserve those jobs in terms of making sure that they belong to White people.

So the point-based immigration system, although it may lighten the burden in terms of crime and problems that come along with bringing in lower-class people, but again it does not serve the indigenous people of the UK, or White Canadians, or White Americans.

Another thing that I’d like to just ask you Mark. What are the similarities and the differences between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump? Because they seem remarkably similar on a lot of fronts. Can you just kind of briefly discuss the similarities and differences between those two?

Mark: Well the similarities obviously are quite clear. Both of those men clothed themselves in this veneer of patriotism. And they both appeal, they’re both people who appeal to a broad range of the political spectrum. And what I mean, by that, is Donald Trump appeals to both Republicans, but he also appeals to the form of working-class Democrat. The working-class man who was always voted Democrat, because the Democrats offered the working-class, at one time, offered the working class a better deal. More protection. More rights.

And Boris Johnson does the same. And you’d see this in the run-up to the last general election.

Where as Jeremy Corbyn was going around speaking at mosques and speaking it rallies where it was for LGBTQ, or transgender people, and he was talking about his pronouns, Boris Johnson was the first Conservative Party leader in a very, very long time, to visit places like, fish packing factories, or be seen with White van men. And they loved him and they embraced him. And he kind of bridged that gap between the traditional conservative voter, but also the traditional White working-class Labour voter.

So that’s where they’re very similar. They both appeal to the everyman, regardless of political affiliation, and bridge divides.

However, they are different in also in numerous ways. Boris Johnson is absolutely part of the political establishment! He’s part of the Eaton Club. He’s part of the Oxford Cambridge Club. I think he was part of the Bullingdon circle at university. He’s very much part of what you would say is the old-school British political establishment. Where all prime ministers and leading from bench ministers come from. He isn’t a radical. He isn’t an outsider.

And although he makes noises about the BBC licence fee, he’s very much on board with the mainstream media. Although he talks about Australian points based systems he would never talk [40:00] about building a wall, or talk about immigration bans on people from certain countries.

And in that sense Donald Trump is a far greater asset to us, because although he’s not perfect, you’ve got to remember Donald Trump has done three things that no other leader of a developed world nation, not a major developed world nation, has ever done.

Firstly, he has openly said that there needs to be absolute border controls, a wall, and travel bans! You don’t hear that from any other Western leader.

Secondly he said that:

“The media are categorically the enemies of the people, liars, and they oppose the well-being of the general population?

Again, no other Western political leader since, well not for a long time since there was a guy with a moustache in charge of Germany! [laughing].

And finally, the other thing that he’s done is talked about the “deep state”. Now that’s a major taboo! No other Western leader talked about soft-power! Talks about the infrastructure which our enemies have built up within the establishment, that prevents any political movement in the correct direction. It always keeps the movement going in a more, how can I say, quote-unquote “progressive direction”.

So Donald Trump talking about the deep state, talking about a grand conspiracy to control politics from behind the scenes, that is a watershed moment!

What’s more, people talk about “accelerationism”. Well, no one is more accelerationist than Donald Trump! People think, well if Bernie got in, there might be chaos on the streets. No there wouldn’t. If Donald Trump gets in, there will be chaos on the streets! Because if Donald Trump gets elected a second time, you will see such a wave of protests, such a wave of violence on the streets of America. And that really is accelerationism. But not from the Left, but from the Left being forced into these public tantrums, because they hate Donald Trump so much.

And I think those things make Trump’s stand out. Even though he’s a complete shill for Israel. Even though he’s absolutely let us down when it comes to our very, very, strong anti-war stance, and anti-interventionist stance, he still does more for our cause in legitimizing debate on immigration, delegitimizing the mainstream media, and discussing what was once a conspiracy theory, but now it’s just widely seen as an actual real world conspiracy.

So I think those are some very big differences between the two.

Ronnie: I think that’s a pretty fair assessment. I’m glad that you mentioned there too about him kind of cucking to Israel. Because, of course, there is a man with the mustache in the 1930s who would not approve of Trump in that regard. But I think you nailed a lot of things right on the head. And perhaps we overlook some of the accomplishments that Trump has made. He actually has lowered the overall amount of legal immigrants coming into the country.

And I think immigration right now is perhaps the biggest issue, if not the most central to at least the dissident Right. So that’s a pretty fair assessment there.

Before I pass it on to the rest of the panel, I just want to say I think it would be great to watch a debate between you and Richard Spencer on Donald Trump, and which direction America should go down in terms of secession, versus, you know, can we make America great again. I think viewers would just absolutely love that! And perhaps Byrthonic could host that?

Brythonic: Again, as we were saying the pre-stream, the whole notion of secession is kind of a fringe, I’m not really so keyed up on that whole raft of talking points. But I mean, if we jump into at some point in this stream, if you wanted, if people still wanted to talk about that, or what we’ve been talking about now, or shall we jump onto secession and everything?

UNWAShED: I mean, was the original question about the petition? Because I did have a little observation about that, or have we moved on from?

Ronnie: No, no.

Mark: Just make a quick point, right? When people invite me on these streams I often get a lot of things thrown in my direction. I can sometimes end up dominating the chats. If I’m doing that I apologize, now. I’m trying to give all you guys a bit more a bit more time. So my apologies if that was a lengthy answer.

UNWAShED: No, it was all good. But you said about the petition mark that you didn’t have much faith in the actual petition doing [45:00] anything. And neither do I. I think that even if you get it past a hundred thousand mark, the fact that it gets put to Parliament doesn’t mean anything.

But what is very interesting about this petition calling for, you know, the proper details to be released into what’s happened, is that the numbers have flown up so quickly! And as Mark knows, but I don’t know if the other guys know, my old friendship group, are very much lefties. So I’ve still got one foot that can look on Facebook and see how they’re dealing with this stuff.

And it really is only the far Left that don’t know about the full extent of this. Like it’s only the shrieking, shrieking, feminists, that are arguing against this. Anyone else is now aware that this is an issue. And I think the vast majority of the British public have been woken up to this, and want answers! Which is really good. I don’t know what’s gonna happen as a result of it, but the public are quite unified, from what I can tell.

AllFather: Now the petition only guarantees that they will address the issue, right not, or that doesn’t mean they’re going to release it, right? Just that they’re gonna give an answer, whether they will, or will not.

UNWAShED: The actual petition itself is meaningless, because a few years ago there were endless petitions like this. And I just watched them and so well nothing is happening as a result of these. But what is interesting is how many people have been sharing it, and how much sentiment there is for getting this sorted. It is now mainstream, rather than being a somehow fringe concern.

AllFather: Got you.

Brizer: Yeah I don’t buy into the whole petitions either. I think if you even look at the meaning of the word it means “to beg”! You beg the government to look at different things, and they’re not going to do anything, you know, if you go begging to them! No it’s up to us to change these things, I think.

And I suppose they can play a part in some way to at least get the public discourse going and all the rest of it, and get people aware. But begging the government to change things, you know, you’re going to be waiting a long time for that.

AllFather: Yeah, we do have FOIA, a Freedom of Information Act request, so we can, that’s how a lot of the people got the reports on the “dancing Israeli”, all of that type of thing after 9/11. But, you know, they can heavily, heavily, redact, basically all pertinent information. So it kind of makes the final product almost meaningless at the end, also! I don’t know if they have the same thing in the United Kingdom?

UNWAShED: I don’t know. I mean, as Mark said, this goes right the way to the top from what we can tell. So I don’t think that we’d expect, we wouldn’t expect truth, even if they did say:

“Right we’re releasing you the truth?

You know, this seems to affect every single level, from the local councils, right to Gordon Brown.

Mark: Yeah. And sometimes like I said, I wasn’t gonna jump in again. But sometimes you don’t do these things, because you’re actually going to win. You’re not doing them, because you actually believe that the petition will have an effect. But you’re doing it so the people, so that the general public look at this and say:

“Oh my god! Hundreds of thousands of us sign this damn petition, and these absolute pieces of work, are still not listening to us!”

And sometimes by making these demands, and by issuing a demand that is so publicly supported, it does the government a huge amount of damage, not to the very least answer the demand. And I think that’s what we’re really trying to do now.

I think the important thing from our perspective is to understand why we do certain things, and to understand that there is a tactical reason to do something, that might actually be futile, because it will be ignored, but the fact it is ignored, isn’t futile in the long run for other reasons! If you see what I’ve tried to get at! By them ignoring it, that is one of the most powerful things they can do to actually prove our point!

In fact, let’s say we sign this petition and the government said:

“Well we’ve listened to the people and we’re gonna release this petition, because the people have spoken?

Well that, to a degree, will actually get the government off the hook, because the people would turn around and say:

“Well the Conservatives at least they’re listening!”

Whereas if the government turns around says:

“350,000 people have signed this petition. We only need a 100,000 people to sign it in order to debate it in Parliament. But three times have signed it. And we’re going to debate this for two minutes. We’re gonna laugh at this suggestion! We’re going to absolutely ignore it!”

Well, I can tell you this, that sends a very powerful message to normal people about just how much contempt those people are held in by these overpaid politicians, who make a fat living off essentially legislating for our misery!

So when we do these things it isn’t always, because we are believing that the government is going to act in the way they we want. But sometimes we do these things to expose to the people just how corrupt, self-serving, and evil, this government truly is!

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AllFather: And media I’d add. I’d say that’s probably a pretty good tactic to bait the media into covering something like that and just showing just how out of touch they are with regular people’s concerns, as well. Especially left-wing outlets. But then also some kind of conservative outlets could cover, if theoretically, if the government did hear that and the Parliament basically swept it underneath the rug, all of these other more centrist to right-wing media outlets could expose that and bring attention to it as well. And bring more normal people kind of under our wing, if you will.

UNWAShED: Well I noticed that the Independent, which is a hard left newspaper, it’s about in line with the Guardian. Yeah, they’re the two furthest left ones, and that reported on this petition. And I’d a quick read through it. And there was no way for them to spin it. It’s like the message is out there and even these far left papers don’t really have a way to present this, with any sympathy for the other side.

You know, this is a one way thing. And they’ve sort of had to crumble. Because, you know, they’ve been calling anyone who discussed this issue far-right for years, and years, and years, and now they don’t get to! So there’s a definite change.

Brizer: There is one thing that I was doing for a while, I used to send letters into the top man into the Taoiseach we have our Lemire [sp] as Prime Minister and ask him just one question, you know, like:

“On whose authority did you open the borders?”

Okay. Simple questions like that. I send it in by registered mail. It’s not signed for, and they’ll always come back:

“Oh, this has been handed on to some other Minister to deal with?

Or whatever. And they’ll come back with some wishy-washy answer. Then you could write back in again you say:

“No, no. Can you please answer that one question?”

And they never do. And that’s, I think, it’s great, because you can hand us around to people and say:

“Look! I did this. Look at what they’re doing!”

Okay, they’re not even answering your questions. So these people don’t represent you. They don’t care about you. I’m just thinking if we got a huge letter-writing campaign going. I think that could make a big impact. I don’t know what your thoughts on that guys?

UNWAShED: I’m at a loss to what will make an impact, at this point! It looks to me like people have tried absolutely everything. But I don’t know, a petition taking the country by storm can’t be bad!

Ronnie: Well, I think Mark said it best. It’s really just a symbolic. We’ve had similar things here in Canada, where people of sign petitions. From everything to reduce immigration coming from Middle Eastern countries, to trying to boot Justin Trudeau, our Prime Minister, out of office.

And, of course, none of these things are actually going to pan out. But! It does send a message. And as long as we can be honest with ourselves, that, hey we’re probably not going to accomplish too much here that is tangible, as long as we can keep our morale up about it, then we really have nothing to lose, right? It just creates more buzz around it. But to go into it thinking:

“That yes, we’re actually going to be able to say, for instance, boot Justin Trudeau out of office if we sign enough petitions?

No, of course, not. But we have to take pride in the small victories, and raising attention, raising awareness to our cause is a small victory.

AllFather: One thing I’d like to say about Trump. I know Mark kind of talked about Trump and some of the things that he’s done.

The other thing about Trump is that he actually does listen to people and kind of tries to gauge the zeitgeist, if you will. I think, you know, in a lot of ways he is riding this kind of populist wave right now. Whether he’s truly genuine, or not, that still yet to be seen. Obviously, his ties to Israel and zionism are distressing.

But, the other thing that he did was that he actually referred to himself as a nationalist, which is just something that [55:01] almost, it’s almost like a dirty word, or something. It’s something that people just, what world leader has actually called themselves that in quite a long time? Well, especially in the West, I would say.

So he’s somebody who tries to gauge, to at least try to carry carry out the will of his people. Because he understands that he is kind of a part of this populist revolution, if you will. I wouldn’t necessarily call it a revolution yet, but then also just calling himself a nationalist. Gosh! That’s just something that I just, when I heard him say that, I had a smile from ear to ear! Whether it’s civic, or whatever, I mean, it’s still a step in the right direction, right?

UNWAShED: Yeah! In terms of normalizing the language that felt like a great step forward. I remember feeling like I was cheering for him when that happened.

AllFather: And going before the UN and telling them that globalism is dying. And I mean, that’s all, that’s the kind of language that people need to hear. And that’s the kind of language that I think when it’s becoming normalized it’s gonna help our movement, no matter what. Yeah.

UNWAShED: He genuinely moved the dial, whereas I don’t have any faith in Boris Johnson to actually do it. The way that Mark described it earlier, with, it’s just language trickery. He’s a long term politician. The difference with Trump was that he didn’t come from that world, and that’s why people plugged him and trusted him, despite the lies, you know. But with Boris Johnson he’s already been Mayor of London.

What is interesting though, is that he’s on borrowed votes, and everyone understands this, particularly the Conservative Party. They understand that the people that voted for them, only did it for Brexit. And they’re not conservative voters traditionally, the way that you’ve got the Republican base.

AllFather: Yeah, that makes sense. Though, that election was essentially a second referendum, for Brexit, right?

UNWAShED: Yeah yeah, it was. And the reason that the Conservative Party did so well was their slogan was simply “Get Brexit Done!”. And everyone was so fed up of it. And I think the majority of the country, … Well yeah, it was proven that the majority of the country is pro-leave now. Whereas they tried to hawk the line that it was 50/50, and it was split down the middle for the whole of the last four years. And actually it’s been shifting to very, very, pro-leave. But the media has implied that it’s been 50/50 the whole way along. So it changes the narrative, it’s really good.

Brythonic: I just wanted to bring it back to, well we touched upon this a bit before, about the points based immigration system. Wondering why are we having such a system, rather than adopting a family rewards system, or breeding program for native Britons? I wonder if that’s something that is a going to be possible at some point? I mean, if it’s really a non-issue?

UNWAShED: It’s certainly not a non-issue! Because we’re talking about becoming a minority in our own countries. So that matters. But the idea that we have to out-breed other people is also disgusting! I know that in Hungary, and places like this, they’ve given incentives for young families. And that’s great! And that’s what we should be doing. But it’s by no means a cure. And it’s not right to put the pressure on people to have to have more babies. It’s just such an odd situation to be in.

Ronnie: And it’s not like, just to cut in for a second, it’s not like those policies only apply to White people, right? They’re gonna benefit Muslims, they’re gonna benefit all sorts of immigrants. And there’s no real way to incentivize, you know, increasing birth rates specifically with Whites. Whatever we put into place is going to apply to everybody.

And if we try to implement policy that is only going to apply to Whites, well what are we going to be called? Obviously racist, White supremacist! So I don’t see how in the current political climate we’re ever going to be able to turn things around in that regard.

Brythonic: Well in terms of that, you were talking about Trump before, and then that very point is made Ronny, Israel, seemingly is the elephant in the room here. You know, they have the policy for their own people of family reward systems, to keep their native, well keep the jewish population up.

Ronnie: Oh, absolutely! And this works when you have a nation that is pretty much homogeneous, right? If Whites represented eighty percent of the London population, or in the major cities, and yes, absolutely this [60:00] could work! But things are so far gone now.

If you increase the birth rates for the overall population that will do nothing to raise our overall numbers. And that’s what this is about! It’s not really about, you know, specifically the White population of Canada, or America, or Britain. It’s the White population in comparison to the non-Whites.

So that’s really what we have to focus on, and that’s what we have to address. And the only real way that I see being able to address that is by deporting people. Specifically increasing the White birth rates, or secession. And, you know, which one I think is the most likely out of the three.

Brythonic: Mm-hmm.

Brizer: Yeah. I mean, I’d like to see a couple of million Irish Americans come back to Ireland, you know. They can do that straight away. I mean, if you look at the jewish Diaspora they have that right to return to Israel, and they come back and they’re all welcomed in. But not so much for Irish Americans want to come back. It’s quite difficult actually to get back in again, unless they have a grandmother, or something like that, where they have that connection. But if it goes beyond that, it’s very difficult.

And I’d like to see that, because that would help. There’s about 50, 60 million Irish-Americans in the US at the moment. And just a couple of million of them back here, would certainly help out a lot of things. So, I’d be on for that, definitely.

Ronnie: It’s very interesting, European nations want to see more White’s coming in from North America, and it’s the exact opposite here in North America. We want to see more Whites immigrating from Europe. But obviously that’s going to bleed one of them dry, so that’s not really a viable solution. We have to have a solution for the entirety of the White race, in my opinion.

UNWAShED: Isn’t the issue that you would never see the word “indigenous” in any legislation here. I mean, I suppose you’ve got it in Canada but it certainly doesn’t refer to the White population.

Ronnie: Absolutely!

UNWAShED: Yeah. But you’d see all sorts of minority buzzwords written into legislation. So that’s what our battle is at the moment. We’re in a civil rights battle for the indigenous rights of White people. I think it’s taken a while to come to that point where they’re articulated like that, but that’s what we’re in. And then it sounds less extreme, really.

Ronnie: Yeah, I just wanted to ask. Do you think that using that type of strategy, don’t you think that implies that Whites in North America essentially don’t have a right to our land? If we’re going to emphasize the term “indigenous”, as opposed to are you capable of taking over a territory and, you know, setting up shop in maintaining it?

Because that’s essentially what we did in North America. We took over territory. We proved that we could do more with the land. And that’s what entitles us to the land. It’s not based on the fact that we’re indigenous, because all humans are essentially this migrant type of species, right? We travel the world, we take over various territory. And then it’s up to us to whether, or not, we can hold it down.

So I think really hammering down the indigenous aspect of your identity works well for you. But at the same time you would kind of have to say that maybe Whites don’t have a claim to North America. And that puts me obviously and in a very compromised position.

Mark: No, no. Look, the claim of being “indigenous” is the most powerful claim we have. However, in America you are not indigenous. The White people aren’t indigenous there, but the indigenous people are the Native Americans. And you’re not being out-bred by Native Americans!

The fact is White people built America in its current form. And the indigenous people are actually on reservations, they are allowed to indulge in their culture, in their traditions, in their ways of life. And the debate at the moment isn’t whether the indigenous people of North America should take back North America, and the White people should be all shipped back to Europe. The debate is whether Africans, Latinos, and people from elsewhere in the world, should be allowed to flood in and completely take over America from either White people, or Native Americans!

Because, let’s face it, that is what’s happening! It isn’t a matter of White versus indigenous. And also there is the matter that what we’re seeing here, is the fact that people of European descent did completely civilize America and built a stunning civilization, which is now being dragged through the mud.

So I do think there are alternative arguments that can be used to why mass immigration is not preferable in North America. But the fact is, here in Europe, the most powerful argument we have, is that we are the indigenous people. That these are our lands, that our people do originate from [65:00] these lands. That we are the natural people to inherit these lands. And that everything here is actually built by us, as well.

So we do actually hold all the moral cards in Europe. And I don’t think we should discard any of those.

Ronnie: That’s a very good point. I do think that the key point is who built the nation, who created the politics, the culture, etc. And obviously White Europeans created Canada. I think the actual land comes second to the state, to the culture and the things that I laid out.

However, you can in addition to that I had to the fact that, yes you are an indigenous Englishman, where I’m not an indigenous Canadian. So that we do kind of lack that point to bring to the table. But I think we both agree that it’s not necessarily the land that makes a people, it’s the country, it’s the culture, it’s the ideas that those people put forward, and their ability to protect those ideas. So I think we’re pretty much on the same page.

UNWAShED: The question is, who’s being displaced, as well. Like, you know, which peoples are being displaced and that’s White people all over. So as you say, the indigenous claim it’s almost getting lost in the weeds. It’s like, yes it’s the kind of tactic a leftist would use against you saying, you know:

“You are not really indigenous!”

The point is people are being forced to move, because of these great swells of unfamiliar people.

AllFather: Yeah, the one thing that you’ll see is that Europeans, and Europeans only, whether they’re in the diaspora, or in Europe, are the ones who are essentially the hegemony, if you will, the global hegemony is attempting to undermine and subvert our identity. Whether it be in the diaspora, or Europe, it doesn’t really matter.

But obviously in the colonies, in the Diaspora, our claim to preserving a demographic majority more has to do like Ronny was saying with our culture and the politics. Basically saying that if you replace, or if you marginalize, if you will, the population of the founding stock of these nations, and have people from the Third World, whether it’s South America, or Africa, or the Middle East, wherever, coming in here, it will fundamentally change the nation culturally and politically.

We all see, you know, this is another point about the points-based immigration system is, even if you’re importing doctors from China, and tech workers from India and these people will still overwhelmingly vote for the Left, and for socialism. Which, you know, in a country like Ronnie and myself, our country has birthright citizenship. I’m actually not sure about Canada anymore, it is you have to have one parent who’s a Canadian citizen in order to claim right of soil?

Ronnie: I’m not actually sure what it is right now.

AllFather: Okay, so in my country basically you can be from anywhere, you don’t even have to be a citizen of this country if, you know, and your parents come here, they’re both illegal, or they’re just workers, temporary workers, they have a child, that child becomes a citizen. So it’s an insane policy! But it comes from the Fourteenth Amendment, which was intended to give freed African slaves citizenship. And what it became basically is birthright citizenship.

And so we have a situation here where if we allow people to come in here, these Chinese doctors, and Indian tech workers, like I said, they’ll have children who will in turn, you know, create more demographic replacement of Europeans. So yeah, it’s more about our founding stock, the culture, and the politics for us. But I don’t consider myself to be indigenous to the North American continent, obviously.

The peoples who are mostly out-breeding us are Hispanics. And in some part they are Meso-American. So they actually do have this idea that they are taking back their own land. Not only, because parts of the Western United States used to be a Spanish, and then subsequently a Mexican province, or colony, but they also have this part indigenous heritage. So they do think that they’re kind of taking back the land from us, if you will.

But yeah, so I really think that that it’s important for indigenous Europeans to not let anybody [70:00] try to subvert your indigenous status. Because you look at other groups around the world that are similar to the United Kingdom, as far as, you know, and they might even be the product of ethnic groups in other parts of the world, that might even be a product of an ethnogenesis.

Japan, you look at other countries especially that are like archipelagos, like Britain, Japan, Madagascar, New Zealand, some of these places, there’s nobody trying to subvert the indigenous identity of the Maori in New Zealand. There’s nobody trying to say that the Europeans there are indigenous, or that that anybody that comes to New Zealand is indigenous.

And the British ethnic groups in the British Isles, have been in Britain for far longer, not far longer, well the they’ve been homogeneous basically for the same amount of time after the Norman invasion, that the Maori have even been present on New Zealand. So the idea that the peoples, the White people the British Isles are not indigenous to the British Isles is insane! And it needs to just be stopped! I mean, we need to make these arguments in public.

The problem is that a lot of these mainstream conservative, and centrist, outlets won’t discuss demographics with us.

UNWAShED: I think we’re at an interesting point. In the UK at least, because the mainstream view, or at least a view from the mainstream media, is that there is no such thing as like an indigenous British person, or an ethnically English person. And everyone knows that’s not true! You just apply that double standard to any other country. You would never say that about the people. But that is the mainstream line.

And I just think it’s another point where we can wake people up to the scale of this problem. You know, any normal English person will self-identify as English. They won’t be like:

“Well, we’re a nation of immigrants!”

But, that’s the news that they’ll get from the mainstream. And as soon as they spot that there’s that disconnect, then hopefully they give up on the mainstream altogether.

Mark: Look, there’s really an easy answer to this, as well, right? In 2016 Teresa May let in 650,000 migrants into Britain. That’s how many she actually let in. And she estimates that around 200,000 illegal immigrants came into Britain in the same year. So that would make a total immigration of around 850,000. And this number isn’t completely an all-time high, because in 2019, the Tories let in 379 [thousand] non-EU migrants.

So considering EU immigration was always higher than non-EU immigration in the years we were members of the European Union. But let’s say it’s on a par, for sake of this argument. That would mean that in 2019 around 758,000 migrants came to Britain legally.

Now let’s add into the mix, 200,000 illegal immigrants, keeping it on par with 2016 figures. That means you’ve got around 960,000 people coming into Britain in 2019. So a 110,000 more than came in 2016. I don’t have the numbers for seventeen, and eighteen, sorry, but I’m sure any stati people out there would dig them out. And if you want stats, go to Laura Towler! She’s the Queen of Statistics!

But I’ve given you too numbers there. 850,000 for 2016, and 960,000, or thereabout for 2019. And they’re all under Conservative governments.

Why are those numbers important? Well, in either of those years, as individual years, and we’ll take the lesser number 2016. In 2016 alone, more people entered Britain than came into Britain between 1066, the last time we were successfully invaded, and 1939, the outbreak of the Second World War.

So what you’ve got there, is almost a millenniums worth of immigration being completely eclipsed in a single year of modern Conservative party rule! So when people say we’re a nation of immigrants, not only is that a complete and utter BS claim! But the level of immigration we are seeing now is so unprecedented, it is so off he scale that comparing modern-day, yearly immigration statistics, or numbers, to hundreds and hundreds of years of [75:02] immigration, is actually incomparable!

And that just shows what level of migration was seeing now. And it also shows that when we say things like “White genocide”, or the “Great Replacement”, or “swamping levels” of immigration, we are not, we are not, making things up! We are not over playing things! We’re being honest.

And I’ll read you this:

“Hello Mark! I’m working on a story for Vice about Groyping coming to the UK. In the story we will be reporting that you are, ..”

And then some allegations are made about me. And one of those allegations is spreading racist conspiracy theories related to get demographic trends. What conspiracy theory? You’ve got pushing a million people coming into Britain every year. We are now running at a level where White Britons are already a minority in London, will be a minority in Britain by the 2060s as a whole.

And we are already seeing a situation where White Britons only make up 66 percent of primary school children. And births from White Britons only make up 59 percent of overall births in Britain. When are they going to stop using terms like “conspiracy theory”? Because if it is actually happening, how is it a conspiracy theory? It might be a conspiracy, but it isn’t just a theory, it’s the truth!

AllFather: Well for something to be a “conspiracy” it has to be secret, right? I mean, you know, a theory is also just an uncertain belief, so basically like a supposition, you know, a supposition a set of uncertain beliefs. So, it by definition, it can’t be a conspiracy theory. Especially considering you see some mainstream media outlets and just openly gloating and celebrating the fact that Europeans will be a minority.

But that’s kind of the whole, I think the conspiracy theory that they speak of is that it’s engineered by somebody. That it’s something that’s being done purposefully by elitists or, you know, which I think most of us in this chat would agree that’s the case.

Mark: Look at all these immigrants trying to get across the Greek border. That is a conspiracy! That is something that has been engineered. President Erdogan of Turkey has engineered the latest invasion! This isn’t something that is a nonsense that we’ve dreamt up.

And one thing we have to do, is we have to use laughter to defeat these clowns. If I’m ever invited on a show to debate these people I’m just gonna laugh in their faces, because this is actually happening! The government is saying it’s happening! Leading demographers are saying it’s happening! Other foreign governments are facilitating this knowingly.

This is all playing out as we’ve said. And people using terms like “conspiracy theory” about this, when it can be obviously proven, should be shamed, should be mocked, should be torn down!

If they want to talk about Groyping, well why don’t we Groyp them? Why don’t we go on to their YouTube channels and just keep spamming the demographic nightmare is real! The great replacement is real! Because it is!

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Ronnie: Could I just jump in for a second. I think what Son of the AllFather is saying is that it comes down to whether, or not White erasure is a byproduct of the globalist agenda, or if it is the primary goal of the globalist agenda? And I think in the dissident Right we realize that it probably is the primary goal. If not it’s at the top. Where the Left projects it as, you know, this is just simply happening as a result of the need for more migration to stimulate the economy. And as a result Whites are going to be erased! So that’s really what the debate kind of comes down to. Am I correct to say that Son of the AllFather?

AllFather: Yeah. Precisely. That’s I mean, I obviously like I’m in that camp, in the camp that it is being done purposefully. But, you know, it’s just important to kind of address the language they’re using in order to defeat their arguments. And basically what I’ve seen is that they will deny it and they’ll try to gaslight you until they kind of can’t, and then they’re defeated on that on that front. And then what they’ll do is they’ll just move to trivializing it, or trying to rationalize it in some way. And, you know, with by saying:

“Oh well we’ve been colonizing different places all around the world.”

And then basically what you have where you have them at that point is, you know, they’re saying:

“Well, you’ve colonized other places therefore Europe deserves to be colonized.”

And it’s like, okay, well [80:01] Europeans are the indigenous people of Europe so are you saying that two wrongs make a right here? Are you saying that essentially that it’s an eye for an eye kind of a mentality? Which, you know, is considered barbaric, pretty much in any developed part of the world. So at that point you basically have proven that they are just as evil today, as they claim our ancestors were hundreds of years ago!

Brizer: Yes. It comes back to this whole Whiteness versus ethnicity debate again, doesn’t it? Which for us in Europe obviously ethnicity is the thing, because we were born and bred in these lands, and we have our own language and cultures and whatever. And there are certain differences between us. But there’s something else that runs deeper than that, where we have that connection.

And I can understand you guys in North America, because you’re trying to figure out whether you are American? Are you Canadian? Because, you know, you had the indigenous people there before that. Who are you? And, of course, your European ancestors came over three two, or three hundred years ago and they settle a land and they built a country up, so they feel a kind of an identity with that land.

And then when I look at the situation in South Africa with the Afrikaner as the White people in South Africa. They feel African, even though they’re White! And for me, like which is it? Which is most important? Is it your ethnicity? Even though the Afrikaners did come from Dutch, German, backgrounds, is that more important to them, or is it being a South African is more important to them?

Ronnie: I think racial identity has to matter more, right? Like even with respect to the British identity, right? Like you are a mix of Celts and Germanic people. I don’t want to take away from the fact that you are indigenous to England, but your genes haven’t really been molded by the geography in the same way that the native people in Canada have right? You pretty much are either Celtic, or German, in origins.

And so I kind of look at it is that the primary colors of European, or a White identity, we have the Greeks and the Romans, we have the Celts, we have the Germans, we have the Norseman. And that’s kind of how I would categorize it. But we all are the same people, at the end of the day. The differences between us in comparisons to the differences between us and the other races they’re pretty much negligible.

I think national identity is something we can have fun with. Like I can make fun of you guys and say, you know, soccer sucks in comparison to real football, and we can have a good laugh about that! But it doesn’t really mean anything. Where racial identity actually does mean something.

UNWAShED: This is where I had asked, I’d like to ask about Shin Fien and what’s going on there? Because they would be badged as a nationalist party, wouldn’t they? Or historically, I don’t really know. They would sort of brand themselves as all about the Irish, but they’re anything but! Is that right?

Brizer: Yes, at this point, they are. But when they started off initially back in 1919, they were a true Nationalist Party. It goes back to the old days of fighting against the Brits and all that type of stuff, right? We’ve gone through all of that, and we’ve been there, done that. There was a lot of pain and hardship went along with that, but Shin Fien were totally infiltrated back in the 60s by Marxists. And they are anything but nationalists now, or even Republican.

They are kind of always were the protests kind of political party, where people go to protest against the two main parties, which are Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil. And we had that in a recent election here there. The Shin Fien vote surged. And they were never that popular really. I mean, they had grassroots support, they’d always get one, or two, people elected.

But they got a huge vote this time around. And the moments there’s a difficulty in forming a new government, because the two main parties don’t anything to do with Shin Fien. And Shin Fien doesn’t particularly want anything to do with them. And Shin Fien are trying to get a coalition between the other kind of leftist parties. And I sometimes I think it might be a good thing if they did get into power with a lot of lefties, because they would really fuck this country big time! And really red pill a lot of people, to say:

“Look! Look what they’re about!”

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And then there’s another thing saying:

“Well, they could really destroy this country too, and there’s going to be a lot of hardship.”

It’s hard to see where this will go. There are some new nationalist parties setting up. The National Party is was kind of the main one at the moment. They’re still quite small but they’re gaining ground, which is good, and their policies are very sensible. And they’ve got a good leader by the name Justin Barrett, who speaks very well, and he knows his stuff.

But I’m just wondering do we have enough time, because if another government is formed and they get another four, or five years in, the gates are still gonna be wide open! And we’re gonna have probably an extra half a million, million, people in this country. Which is gonna make things worse! But I do actually honestly believe that things are gonna have to get a lot worse before they get better! It’s gonna have to come to people’s door, to see it.

And we are beginning to see that now. I mean, just earlier today I was in my small town, I was coming back just doing a bit of shopping. And I went past a school, all the school kids are coming out, and I was quite shocked to see, you know, I really was, because every third, or fourth, child coming out there was, … Well they weren’t Irish, put it that way!

And these are all young kids like six, seven, years old. So they’re going to grow up here.

We have a big problem! We have a big problem! I don’t know how we’re going to sort it! Deportations? I don’t know how that can be done. I think we just have to try and protect what we have, whatever we have.

And I think making more White babies is one way of doing it, but then, is that feasible? It’s more and more difficult to have families these days, because it’s very expensive to raise kids these days.

When I look back even though, in the fifties, and sixties, you know, Irish families had seven, eight, nine, ten, kids! And the dad just went out to work, somehow they afforded it. But they’re just making it more and more difficult now for families to settle down, buy a house, and, you know, raise the family. It’s just getting more and more difficult!

So something is gonna have to give at some point. And I don’t know when. And I think it’s just going to be very painful when it does. And we’ve got to be ready for it. That’s unfortunate.

Ronnie: Before, you know, the family would help out with the family business, be it a farm, or what have you. Nowadays it’s not the case, right? It takes an individual to reach their 20s before they can actually start earning a significant income, right?

So typically the kids are just a financial burden, where in the past you’d have them working on the farm, you’d have them working in various areas. And as well the infant mortality rate was much higher. So to ensure that you had a lot of offsprings, you know, kids that would survive you would have a lot of children.

So I do think it would be great if we could add a little bit more nepotism and family values to the White identity, so that we can start working again with family members and friends. Because I think for multiple reasons that’s much more desirable than working for some large corporation.

Brizer: Yeah well they did a number on this country in the last seven, or eight, years. There was three referendums. First one I think was in 2012, which was about children’s rights. And this was basically, in our Constitution, children were protected under the Constitution. And then the state decided to come in and say:

“Well, we’re gonna take more control here.”

And that, sadly, passed, because most people didn’t think it was important at the time. And it passed quite easily.

Then we other gay marriage referendum. And then we had the abortion referendum. I think we all saw the scenes with all these crazy young Millennials were cheering and shouting for the death of babies!

I mean, it was quite disgusting to be quite honest to see that.

And I was just like those three referendums were an attack on the family unit. And there is an article in our Constitution which just states the family, article 40, which is all about the family, and how the family is the foundation of society and cannot be touched! And that’s just being gradually eroded away. And now we’re just we’re seeing the effects of that.

At the moment I’m hearing that a thousand babies are being aborted every month in this country! White babies! Gay marriage is on the increase. But they’re not going to produce any kids.

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And then we have a state coming in and stealing children from good parents, because they disagree with different things, or whatever, for whatever reason they feel is necessary to abduct children. And it’s going on in the UK. They’re coming at us from all angles, without a doubt! Without a doubt!

And I think that’s what’s taking people by surprise, because if you just got one problem, you can maybe deal with it, but when you got five, or six, coming at you at the same time it’s extremely difficult to deal with, because people are confused.

We have to take a good step back here and look what’s going on, and realize that our governments are not with us whatsoever! Do not represent us whatsoever! They are in bed with the global, corporate, elite. Who are want to bring in all these migrants as economic consumer units to replace us. And to see the death basically of what we call the White race. Which is going to be, we’re top of the line here!

I think there is a depopulation agenda on the whole, for all races. But I think for the White people we’re number one to go! And they have to destroy the foundations of society, which number one, is the family. And they’re doing a great job here at the moment.

So sad to see but people are beginning to wake up now a bit, and push back. But well, you know, it’s getting people motivated, getting them out on the streets, and doing things, and talking to each other, getting them away from the TVs, and their phones, and stuff and sports, and concentrate! Like we’re at risk here of becoming extinct!

Ronnie: It’s very true. And it this creates a flight-or-fight kind of response that we briefly talked about before the stream. And unfortunately there just really isn’t a fight, a tangible fight, and in many cases a political fight for one to even involve themselves with, right? Like many people in America are frustrated with Donald Trump in the Republican Party. You guys are frustrated with that with what’s happening in the so-called Conservative parties and in the UK.

So there is this sense of, you know, I want to fight, but there’s really no army to join! And so then that creates the flight response. And I guess we could say secession fits along with that. And I don’t want to say that I’m running away from a fight. I don’t want to say that I’m giving up! I’m simply advocating for what I believe is our best chance.

And if there was a fight, if this was um medieval Europe, or whatever, and there was a crusade to join, absolutely I would be there, sword and shield, with my fellow man. But that’s not the way things are right now. And if you try to go down those lines, you’re just gonna wind up in jail!

And they, you know, I really could never advocate for somebody to do the dirty work for me. So, you know, civil war, or a physical revolt, I think that’s very slimy for somebody to preach on the internet when they’re not willing to do the same thing themselves.

So really I think hoping for any sort of physical war, you’re basically just stuck there crossing your fingers, praying that something happens, because chances are you’re not going to be the one to lead it, right? And, nor should you!

So it does seem kind of bad to suggest that we give up a piece of land in order to salvage another, but the Viking mentality is to not engage in a fight in which you can’t win, or which you can’t even form a formidable army. The best thing to do is to collectivise, regather, and then fight once you’re unified, and you can actually win the battle.

So I think secession, although it may seem like we’re giving up right now, we’re just collectivizing to win a future battle that we can actually win.

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Morgoth’s Review – Against The Controlled Warmongers of The Right – Jan 3, 2020 — Transcript

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[Morgoth discusses the recent drone strike killing of the Iranian Al Quds military commander Soleimani in Iraq by the US, and how elements of the Right, especially in the USA are cheering this on despite the fact that this act is just another neocon expression of their globalist warmongering agenda.

NOTE: When orgjew carried out 9/11 in order to launch the War OF Terror, General Wesley Clarke described their plan to take out 7 countries in the Middle East, ending with Iran. This latest event could well be setting the stage for creating that war.

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Morgoth’s Review

Against the Controlled

Warmongers of the Right

Jan 3, 2020

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[00:01]

[Intro music and imagery by Theberton.]

[00:18]

Hello again there folks.

I’ve been working on another video and I just thought I’d do a quick take of what’s been going on in Iran. So the Americans, Trump’s all had the missile strike on what appears to be the number two guy in Iran, head of the Al Quds military, an all-round top dude in Iran. And they have blown him to bits.

[Image] Ben Shapiro:
“Trump’s Soleimani airstrike is utterly righteous. Soleimani was on of the worst human beings on the planet. America had to re-establish deterrence after Obama’s appeasement. This will not be the end of the story — Iran will continue to lash out. But they’re certainly on notice.“

What has kind of got me triggered is the reaction of the sort of Alt-Lite Right wing populists on Twitter, on social media, and even in political parties. Jared Batten of UKIP has come out and said:

“It’s all great stuff! All wonderful. Go on Mr. Trump.”

What’s been happening in Britain over the last six months, or so, is this large rejection of the “Counter Jihad”. In this case it was Tommy Robinson. There’s been a lot of things said and I’ve never really got very involved in that. But what I did like about it was that it was also a rejection of having our people, our populist nationalist movement dragged around by the (((noses))).

What you can see is that when you don’t stand against this infiltration and these false narratives — which the Counter Jihad types promote — then you end up where you have to come out on the side of Neocon policies in Iraq. So I was quite happy to see the dwindling influence of that and for them to come over to a more authentic nationalist movement.

So when the Neocons get to work on this, and they start blowing people up in the Middle East — and how this plays out we don’t know, it’s too early to say. But when that begins to happen, like what I have seen today is just that all of this huge section of what we would think of as being populist Right coming out in support of it. And this isn’t even that controversial, because the foreign policy, the foreign wars, Trump was voted in to stop that.

So this isn’t talking about some deep zionist conspiracy stuff, this is just what Trump was elected for. They supported him when he got in on that ticket. And in terms of sort of red-pilling people and waking people up to certain questions, the foreign policy was the easiest one to swallow because being against foreign intervention, being against sending your soldiers to wars in the Middle East, is a very easy and uncontroversial position to hold.

So I at least thought well this will be an easy sell for a wider populist movement, because they don’t have to say anything particularly controversial, they can get on board with it. And after the 2016 election when Trump won, I thought by and large they have, and to one degree or another, they may not like some of the edgier talk which goes on in, say, the Alt-Right or whatever. But in terms of foreign policy and wars in the Middle East they at least get that much, they at least think:

“Yeah, there is a little bit too much Israeli influence here and it’s not in our benefit, so that I can at least come out against this.”

And yet, here we are and they have done absolutely nothing of the sort! They’re cheering it on! They think it’s great stuff that it happens. And these are the people who frame themselves as being against globalism! But what do they think this is? What power do they think is now tooling up the bombs to invade the Middle East? That is globalist power! They have got this knee-jerk reaction:

“Oh well, it’s Muslims!”

We’ve kind of fed this drip-feed, where we think:

“Oh well, it’s all bad and the more we bomb them it’s better, because we don’t like them. We don’t like what they do in our countries.”

And it’s just completely moronic!

What the neocons are, is really — and Trump at this point — is really just an extension, this is just a globalist foreign policy with bombs. And this is just the flip-side of say the transgender, mass immigration, White-privilege, all that rubbish that drives everybody day nuts in the West!

This isn’t something separate. This is the exact same thing, it’s just that it’s being exported to toughen us to crack with missiles, but the end result will be the same. And the same people will be sitting on top of the rubble.

And the way they try and tell themselves that this is something worth getting on board with is that they then turn to liberals, to people like Jeremy Corbyn, or Bernie Sanders, people on the Left who are in principle against foreign intervention, especially in the Middle East. And to one degree or another have quite a good understanding of it. George Galloway would be another one. And then what they are going to say is that somebody like George Galloway, is just a “snowflake”. And especially the Americans, the American boomer contingent of this is absolutely rotten! These patriotards!

I mean, on the one one hand at least in Britain we’ve made a dent in that, or at least I thought we had. I think we have by and large. In America it’s absolutely toxic! And you can see under everyone of Trump’s tweets. They are cheering it on:

“Go for it! At least we have a President that is going to stand up for us! This is why we elected you to keep America safe.”

But what they are cheering on is just the globalist’s foreign policy. And like I say what they are going to then do is say, if somebody, on the liberal left say, if they say:

“We’re not on board with this, Trump’s a lunatic, we don’t want anymore problems, we don’t want anymore wars.”

Then they are going to say that these are just “triggered snowflakes”. And they don’t like it, and we finally have a President who has some balls. And they have come out with some of the cringiest bad-take memes I’ve ever seen on the internet! They are absolutely appalling!

But you will notice that the only people who actively are also coming out in the media is awash with the Ben Shapiro types. And these populist Right wing figures like Jared Batten, and what not. David Vance on Twitter, all the rest of them. They have been bombarded for years, they have been bombarded for years about what this is all about. About who benefits from it in the Middle East.

I’m going to have to watch what I say because I’m on YouTube. They’ll start and censor YouTube in terms of who doesn’t like going to war on Iran. That is coming next as well. Because they already do it for the social policies, so then you are a Far-right extremist, an Alt-Right incel. And they are just going to do it for the other side of the paradigm, which is foreign policy. That will probably end up being censored as well.

And these lunatics who think of themselves as being Right-wing and against this agenda are coming out cheering it from the heavens! It’s just so, so stupid, that I can barely believe it!

They have been told all of this stuff a million times, they have been called zionist shills a million times! And then when it comes down to it and they know that there is a huge base of support who can see straight through the bullshit, they then going to do it anyway! They are then going to go around with the neocon line anyway! Despite it all! And these, they call them now, “influencers”, these social media “influencers” who spend all day on Twitter, tweeting this stuff out.

And it’s depressing, it’s really quite depressing! And I did me own tweet, where we’ve had this crap Star Wars film came out, and there’s a bit where on the trailer, where the Emperor like clicks his fingers and all of these Star Destroyers break through the ground and come up. And all of a sudden there’s this huge space navy in the space.

And I thought this is the same kind of thing. They have broke cover! And revealed themselves for what they really are! And I think that is the take-away from this. I don’t know how this is going to play out. It be that it settles down, this new trouble in the Middle East with Iran. It could settle down.

But in the days and weeks ahead, however it goes, you’re now going to see the real shills reveal themselves! That is what going to happen here.

And sometimes you are going to find people who be principled, these American pundits, I don’t know much about. There’s one called Cassandra Fairbanks, or something. They’re coming out against this, and you think, okay that is fair enough.

And then you have other people like Jared Batten, who really surprised me, I didn’t think he would come out in favour of this. And so, the real shills, or if you don’t like that term, people who are just wrong and a bit stupid and going along with a false narrative, are now going to reveal themselves. The “wheat” is going to separate itself from the “chaff”!

But it’s a pretty depressing state of affairs, folks, I’ve got to say that. I thought we had reached them. I thought this was done with. And it feels like the last five, or six, years have just been for nothing! But let’s see how it turns out. Let’s see just how many of these people will reveal themselves.

And just wanted to make a video, sort of saying, this is the situation, and we can keep an eye on it.

So thanks for listening folks. And I’ll catch you later.

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Morgoth’s Review – My General Election Dilemma – Nov 26, 2019 — Transcript

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[Morgoth discusses whether you should vote or not in the upcoming elections, given that the choice between the main parties is like being offered the choice between a bowl of puke and a turd sandwich!

— KATANA]

Morgoth’s Review

My General Election

Dilemma

Nov 26, 2019

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[00:16]

Hello again there folks. So I’ve been thinking for the last couple of days, that I should say something about the General election which is on the way. But the problem is, I mean, you may have noticed if you watch my stuff, that I don’t really get into party politics at all. I’ve been burned out with it! I’m one of these people that wandered off the plantation, after the Brexit fiasco and after watching three and a half years of being ripped off and ignored! It kind of broke the camel’s back and I realized that there is a clear agenda of (((cabal))) and their will, will not be defied!

And so if you vote for a party and they promise to reduce immigration, let’s say, it’s just not going to happen. They’ll just ignore it! They’ll just ignore you!

And in the case of Brexit, well it was an “in” or “out”, and I thought they would show their hand. And I was interested in how they would deal with it, how they were gonna carry that through without flouting the basic rules of a liberal democracy. And with this, that’s actually the story of the last three and a half years.

So all I did was confirm in my mind that democracy is a bit of a farce! You can vote on a policy about NHS beds, or something, and yeah, if that’s your big thing, then whooppee-do! You will be able to use your “power of the vote” to change how many beds exist in an NHS ward, or something like that.

But if it’s for something more fundamental to the current state of Britain, in this case, then you’re not! Then you’ll just be bullshitted and lied to, and your vote will be crushed! And the last three and a half years since Brexit has been, that’s been the story of it.

And I’ve came to the conclusion that I didn’t really want to play a ball with this farce anymore. Because it gets to the point where if you’re gonna carry on believing in the theater, you feel like a bit of a moron! You feel like a mug! Because you are then actively participating in this system, which is just a sham! Which is just rubbish! And so you feel like a bit of a muppet for going along with the lies!

And I decided that the moral position was to opt out and say:

“I don’t believe the system works, and I’m not gonna endorse it anymore! I’m just gonna opt out and we’ll see how all of this plays out.”

So now we look at the current situation where we’ve got yet another General election and we see that the parties lining up and all of that patter is coming out. And I watched a couple of days ago, I watched Academics Agent’s video on Jeremy Corbyn — the Labour Party’s manifesto — just out of interest. And I was actually quite horrified by how far they’re going. I expected heavy taxes. I expect a Corbyn to go after the CEOs and all of that. But what left me quite mortified was the social policy.

Let me just take a couple of steps back here, because some of my friends on the hard Right will back Corbyn, because they know there’s a certain clique who can’t stand him. And then there’s also that they see him as a wrecking ball against the neoliberal, global capital, let’s say. And with his overt, like communistic, socialist policies. He’s gonna lend 850 billion pounds, or something like that. And so it’s a fair argument.

My problem is if he’s gonna blow up the banking system, or whatever the hell it is, then all right fair play. But the problem that I have is the social policy. And as for taxing all of these CEOs and what not, to death, well they’re just gonna take their money! They’re just gonna leave Britain and the wider system will still be intact. All that’s gonna happen is that the so-called “White van man” is gonna be crucified by these taxes! And so you see where there was somebody on [05:01] “Question Time” talking, and he earns 80 grand a year. He was obviously lower middle class, or working class. He probably owned a factory somewhere, probably works about 70 hours a week. And then he was quite shocked to discover that he was actually in the 5%. And that they were gonna absolutely nail him on taxes! And so that’s this huge chunk of middle England, that are gonna have to pay for Corbyn’s socialism.

But then, the problem is the money. It’s not gonna work in the way that some people on the Right think, because the money is not gonna trickle down to a cohesive group. So you can’t think of it in terms of pushing socialism, or the Swedish model of the 1970s where you’ve got to have a very high trust society, and everybody’s watching each other’s backs. It’s a very comfortable, safe, society and people don’t mind paying a huge chunk of taxes.

And the reason you’re not gonna get that is, because the neoliberal social policy is mass immigration and what the centrists would call “identity politics”, pitting one group against another. And everybody’s against each other. Everybody’s aggrieved. Everybody is out for themselves! And this has resulted in the native demographic of atomization and everybody being out for themselves.

And so, I can actually understand it in that context why they’re gonna go and vote Tory. And on this the point here is that Corbyn’s regime is going to be absolutely savage! And so to get back to my original point of not voting, is it then the moral position to remain aloof from the system when you can see these lunatics coming in? Because I just don’t buy this argument that it will upset the, …. It will open up a gap for dissident politics. The dissident politics is going to be extreme neoliberal, socialist, policies! And Corbyn’s out there now saying there’s gonna be much more “White guilt” dripped into the classrooms!

And on top of all of that, it’s the equivalent to having Antifa run your country! That’s what we’re looking at here. And I don’t see how there’s gonna be any kind of opening for a dissident politics of the Right, whatsoever! In fact, when you look at who’s gonna be prominent within the party, those of us in Britain will be lucky not to be in jail by the time we get through it all! Because it will be like having the Unite Against Fascism, or Antifa running the country.

And so to get back to my original point then. Can you still be noble while you see these lunatics taking over the society? They’re in the running to come out on top. Is it a moral position to still do nothing? Even though — and this is what I have to stress, this point — even though the Tories are scumbags themselves? Even though the Tories are just again these neoliberal shills, but then purely in economics. But as far as something like immigration is going, it doesn’t make blind bit of difference! You’re gonna get 300,000, or 400,000 regardless of who comes in, even Corbyn, I think.

And the reason for that, is that I think we are running at maximum capacity for what we can actually handle. I think the system, because we take in the equivalent of a Normandy landing, like every six months, or something. It’s insane! And in terms of just housing and infrastructure, there’s only a certain amount of people can be processed. And I mean, they talk about capping mass immigration, in actual fact, the system works flat-out to facilitate them coming in by the hundreds of thousands! It’s streamlined to perfection! What people call “The Replacement”. And yeah, that’s gonna happen regardless. Corbyn and the Labour Party may want more, they may want to increase the numbers, but I don’t think it’s physically possible, because there’s just nowhere for people to live. And you’re gonna get the same under the Tories! So that’s actually a moot point.

But in terms of nailing our people to the floor and having what Jeremy Corbyn calls, “Social Justice Commissions” operating up and down the land, and then attaching [10:00] themselves to people’s businesses, controlling everything that people think and do. You are beginning to see something quite horrific coming into view here! So then this tests my original idea of saying:

“Well politics is a big scam! It’s a big joke!”

Like the neoliberals, the money lenders, the top brass, will just move themselves and their assets, their money, and probably their businesses, away from Britain. But we’re still gonna get the transgender issues, we’re still gonna end with all of these racial and ethnic issues. And we’re still gonna have the kids taught “White privilege theory”. It’s just going to be much, much, worse! You’re still gonna get the neoliberal social policy, just the money will have gone.

And so then, you look at the devastation that all of this is going to cause, is it right to say:

“Well, I’m not gonna vote?”

Even though — and this is where they get you again — even though, you know, that the party you’re gonna have to vote for — whether it’s Farage’s crew, or whether it’s the Tories with Boris Johnson — you know they’re a bunch of scumbags who hate you as well! It’s just that they don’t hate you too extent that the the Labour party does.

So this then is the culmination of the great idea of “democracy”, is that out of blind panic you have to vote for the scumbags who hate you least! And this is where we are now.

And so the problem that I have is that you’re then validating the system! You know, that it’s theater, you know, that nothing positive is gonna come out of this for you! And what you want! You, all right there, if you’re watching this video the world that you’d like to see is neigh on illegal. And anybody who holds your opinions will be purged before they get anywhere near political power! So what you have to do was vote for the scumbags who hate you least! And this is where we are. This is the “Great experiment”.

So you can say:

“Well, I’m just not gonna partake in it anymore, and watch the world burn, or wait for the Antifa government to come after you.”

Which in my case they’ll probably do. But as far having some sort of positive ideal is complete, complete, tosh! It’s not gonna happen. And so you’re dragged back in! You’re like Al Pacino in “The Godfather Three”. Just when I thought I was out of this madness, just when I thought:

“Well, you know what it is? I’m giving up on it. I don’t believe in democracy anymore! And I don’t want a validate the system by voting in it!”

Then all of a sudden you find that if you don’t, you’re gonna be having the Social Justice Commission come after you for “hate thought”. And so, you’re forced back into the mold of voting in this complete farce! Because it’s beginning to take a bit of a sinister turn. You’ll never get anything positive. What you’ll get is maybe to stave off the most destructive elements of social justice and cultural Marxism, for a little bit longer. Five years down the road, it doesn’t matter, because the Tories probably have those policies anyway. That’s just what happens, with cuckservatism. So, you’re treading water, or you bite the bullet and say:

“Let’s go for it! Let’s do this the “accelerationist” take, which people will say.”

So that’s another argument which you see on the Right. Where, yeah:

“We know it’s gonna be a madhouse, let’s just get it done and maybe everybody will wake up.”

Well the problem with having Antifa in government is that they’re not going to allow any kind of grassroots movement to form. They’re gonna hunt us down with a vengeance, if they get in! And maybe all of the native population will go through hell, and after five years there’s so much dissent in the country of five years of Corbyn, or whatever, that they’re all desperate to vote for the extreme far Right!

You’ll probably see that somebody like UKIP, or For Britain, will see this bump in popularity, if they don’t get banned. But by and large, it will be people who are desperately running back to the Tories, because they’ve got to try and pay off a mortgage. That’s where this is going to go.

And so we’re forced back into this, this theatre! This illusion of democracy! It’s the choice [15:01] between a bowl of puke and a turd sandwich!

And I think, with a very, very, heavy heart I’m gonna have to go and take a slurp on the bowl of puke! Because the consequences of the Corbyn government getting in is something quite quite awful and shocking!

So, that’s my thoughts on the election there, folks. And it’s not particularly happy, or uplifting, but I can’t, I don’t really see any other way out of it.

Well, alright, let’s try and look at the bright side! [chuckling] Well maybe we will get Brexit, again? Like a carrot dangling before a donkey! That is what it is. A farce! Just a big circus! And if you don’t take part in it you’ll get destroyed, if you do the decline we’ll just take a bit longer.

Thanks for listening folks, and I’ll catch you later.

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