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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Debate – &#8220;Is It Too Late to Save White America?&#8221;</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Jared Taylor &amp; Greg Johnson</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Sun, Jun 9, 2024</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this livestream episode Frodi Midjord host a debate/discussion with Jared Taylor and Greg Johnson on “Is it too late to save White America?”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Key points:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">1. Host introduces Jared Taylor and Greg Johnson who will discuss if it&#8217;s too late to save white America.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">2. Jared argues white demographic decline from 90% to minority status shows America can&#8217;t be home for whites given immigration and birth rates.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">3. Greg disagrees America is unsalvageable but agrees it will be very difficult.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">4. Greg questions if Jared&#8217;s views have changed over time, becoming less optimistic.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">5. Jared acknowledges he&#8217;s less optimistic about fully saving America but politics can still slow declines.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">6. They discuss how their ideas have become more mainstream in recent years.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">7. Greg argues they should keep trying to change minds rather than abandon hope.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">8. Jared agrees their argument for legitimate white interests remains important to spread.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">9. They debate if restoring 1950s White supermajority is realistic given current demographics.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">10. Both agree advancing their views remains vital for White survival even if full restoration unlikely.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">11. Jared says Europeans face similar issues maintaining White majorities as Americans.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">12. Greg responds Europe more hopeful since non-White immigration more recent and reversible.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">13. They discuss how small immigrant numbers concern Europeans more than Americans.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">14. Jared notes 2011 data showed minorities majority of under age one Americans.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">15. They consider younger generations in diverse America struggling to envision all-White society.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">16. Greg argues diversity often increases rebellion against it.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">17. Jared adds racially conscious families want children for the right reasons today.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">18. Audience member asks about African population growth impact on Europe.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">19. Jared and Greg say Europeans have same right to homelands as Americans.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">20. Greg notes Eastern Europe more sensible on these issues.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">21. They take audience questions including on incentives for higher White birth rates.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">22. Greg proposes policies could influence White fertility rates.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">23. Jared stresses need for Whites to have racial identity and continuity.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">24. They agree Republican party unlikely to truly represent White interests.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">25. Greg suggests White advocacy group to pressure politicians like ADL.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">26. Jared concerned about transgender issues as societal rot.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">27. Greg agrees transgender medical procedures should be banned for children.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">28. Jared says homosexuality should remain legal but not celebrated.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">29. They discuss roles of Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">30. Greg says replacing Christianity with ethnocentrism and eugenics may not be realistic.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">31. They discuss America&#8217;s declining global influence and failures observed by Europeans.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">32. After Jared leaves, Greg takes more audience questions.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">33. Questions include boosting White birth rates.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">34. And potential for economic downturns to reverse immigration.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">35. Also the role of billionaires concerned about Israel.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">36. Greg continues discussion with audience.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> All right, so we are streaming. But okay, I’ll just wait a few seconds just to let the audience gather in the chat.</p>
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<p>Before we get started with our conversation, I made an attempt to do the live stream on Telegram. As well, it seems like that didn’t work. So you’re going to have to watch on Odysee or on DLive. So two options, Odysee and DLive.</p>
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<p>I can see that we already have hundreds of people in the chat watching, so I think this is going to be a good show. Let’s just wait a few more seconds before we get started. This is going to be a very good conversation.</p>
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<p>A lot of people are excited. As usual, of course, you can send questions and Superchats.</p>
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<p>If you’re watching on Odysee, you can send Superchats directly through Odysee and they show up in the chat. And if you’re watching on DLive, or you can also, even if you’re watching on Odysee, you can also send through Entropy. That’s Entropy stream dot live/GTK.</p>
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<p>And so I think that we now have a bunch of people in the chat watching already so we can get started. There is a slight delay between my video and my audio. I know the problem is on my end. There was nothing I could do about it.</p>
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<p>But the other participants in this stream, they have a better setup than I do right now. I have sort of, I’m traveling at the moment, so I have a different setup, and this is how it turned out.</p>
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<p>But let’s get started. So welcome to the debate. Is it too late to save White America? I just want to say a few words about the background for this conversation and why I decided to invite Greg Johnson and Jared Taylor to have this conversation. Is it too late to save White America? Or another formulation could be, is it too late to go back to White America? Was actually a viewer who suggested this debate. And this is related to all countries in the West. This is not really just about America, but of course, we’re going to talk about America today.</p>
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<p>But I think this is relevant, highly relevant for the rest of the countries in the West.</p>
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<p>And I think that for many years after mass immigration started, for decades, really, those of us who rejected mass immigration, those who wanted to keep our nation states, people who objected to mass immigration and the transformation of our countries, they worked on the assumption that it would be possible to get back, to go back to normal and to sort of undo the damage and go back to our countries with the ethnic proportions back to normal again.</p>
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<p>In America perhaps that would be racial or ethnic composition in the 1950s or sixties, before White people started declining there. In Sweden, for example, that would be much later. Even in the 1980s, or even as late as 1990, just 30, 35 years ago, Sweden was essentially, for all practical purposes, 100% ethnically homogeneous, with just a few people from neighboring countries and very few people from distant countries. And London, of course, is now one third White British, two thirds not White British.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[04:05]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And so I think that the idea has not always been expressed explicitly, but the tacit assumption has been that we need to go back.</p>
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<p>So I think it came as a shock to many people when Jared Taylor published a video a few weeks ago where he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“That it’s over. America will never again become a home for White people. We can’t take the country back, so we have to settle for something less.”</span></h3>
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<p>And many people were shocked by that statement by Jared Taylor because it made them think about this issue. And many people objected to what Jared Taylor said. And Greg Johnson was one of the people who wrote an article objecting or commenting on some of the things that Jared said.</p>
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<p>So that is what we’re going to talk about tonight. We’re going to talk about, is it too late to save White America?</p>
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<p>Before we start, and before I bring the two participants on, I want to say something about the format. Usually when I organize and when I host debates like this, it is more of a strict academic debate format with strict time frames where one person after another gets to speak uninterrupted in that way. That’s the typical sort of academic format that I use. I think tonight we’re going to have a slightly more relaxed format.</p>
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<p>The way I want to do this is I want to start by first allowing Jared Taylor to make his opening statement, explaining what motivated him to do the video and present his position. Then I’m going to let Greg Johnson reply and state his position. And then we’re going to have more of a natural back and forth. And I will act as host and as interviewer, or shall we say, moderator, where I will ask questions and try to sort of tease out the positions more clearly. And the two participants will also get into a more natural back and forth, relaxed conversation.</p>
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<p>And we’ll also have an opportunity for the audience to ask questions, which you do through Odysee and Entropy. I’ll just repeat that one more time. On Odysee. You can send Superchats through Odysee, and they show up in the chat, and I have the moderators, as usual, helping me out in the chat, because we have a lot of people tonight.</p>
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<p>So you can send through Odysee, and you can send through Entropy. That’s Entropy stream dot live, forward slash, GTK. And I will circle these links on the screen as well as we continue.</p>
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<p>But now I want to bring on, of course, the two panelists or the two participants. Greg Johnson. Welcome. You’re muted, Greg.</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Thanks for having me back. I always enjoy these conversations that we have.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Very good.</p>
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<p>And, of course, Jared Taylor. Welcome.</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Thank you very much.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much for inviting me on. I look forward to this conversation with two men whom I have greatly admired for so many years.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Thank you so much!</p>
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<p>And also, I want to thank the, my viewer who suggested this debate. I think there was an excellent idea, and I’m very much looking forward to hearing this conversation. I hope we can reach some interesting conclusions. And I know the audience has been looking forward to it for days now.</p>
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<p>So I want to start by giving the microphone over to you, Jared, would you please make your statement, explain what your position is, and then we’ll go over to Greg after that. So over to Jared Taylor.</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> All right. You hadn’t specified a time limit on this opening statement of mine, and I was thinking perhaps 5, 10 minutes, something along those lines, if that’ll be acceptable.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> That’s absolutely fine!</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> If I jabber on for too long, you just let me know.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Absolutely!</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Well, first of all, it is the demographic decline of Whites.</p>
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<p>So this is a phenomenon with which most of your viewers are probably very, very familiar. But I’ll just go over briefly. As you suggested, in the 1950s, certainly Whites were 90% of the population. They expected to be the overwhelming majority forever. They thought of the United States as an outpost of Europe, certainly an outpost of White civilization, and they saw absolutely no sign on the horizon that that would ever change.</p>
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<p>And it’s been a very, very gradual process. As you know, until 1965, the United States had an immigration policy that was designed to keep the country White, and it was abolished under false pretenses, I believe, the promise that this would not change the demographic mix of the United States.</p>
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<p>Of course, I’m convinced that if the Congress in 1965 had been told:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well in 60 years, there will be such a change in the United States population that every child under 18 will be, every White child will be outnumbered by non-White children. And that in 60 years and in 80 years, Whites across the board of all ages will be a minority.”</span></h3>
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<p>They would have recoiled in horror! They would never have passed such a thing. No one ever asked White people did they want to become minority.</p>
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<p>The fact is, we are well on our way to becoming a minority, and I don’t believe that it is at all possible to change it. Even if immigration were to stop tomorrow, the number of deaths of Whites are greater than one million more, they outnumber the number of births by a million, and that figure will only increase. The average White median age, I believe, is about 48. In the case of Hispanics, it’s 30 or so.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[09:46]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So they are much younger. Every other race in the United States is younger than Whites. They have more children.</p>
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<p>So again, even if it were possible to seal the borders, our numbers would dwindle. This is the fundamental fact that will make it impossible, I believe, to salvage the United States within its current borders according to its current political system, in a way to make it a home for White people, the way, for example, Japan is a home for the Japanese, or Turkey or Vietnam are homes for the Turks, for the Vietnamese. This is just not something that we can retrieve.</p>
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<p>The numbers are against us. And if someone has or can imagine an economic, or a political process whereby the United States can then become a majority White nation, I’d like to hear what it is.</p>
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<p>Now any multiracial nation is going to be one full of tension.</p>
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<p>The idea that “<em>Diversity is Our Strength</em>” is one of the most fabulously incorrect ideas that I believe has ever taken hold of any nation, aside from some fabulously incorrect religious ideas. But we’ll set those aside. In terms of politics, nothing could be farther from the truth!</p>
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<p>However, in the United States, Whites are not simply just one of a number of different races that are jostling to get ahead. We are the official cause of everything that has ever gone wrong for all the other people, all the other races. We are the whipping boys! We are the villains! All of the people we thought in our past were heroes. The founders, the people who conquered the West, all of these people that we thought of as heroes, so long as they’re White, are now villains. We are the people who, according to Critical Race Theory, are inherent oppressors! By our very nature we are wicked in ways that poison the air practically for people of every other race.</p>
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<p>And so we are not just one of these contending groups. We are the people who made everything go bad for everyone else.</p>
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<p>At the same time, not only are we the official villains, we are the only ones who have no organized means of expressing our interests. This is so obvious in the United States, Congress, where you have a Congressional black caucus. It has just one job. It’s to look at all legislation and say:</p>
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<p>There is a Hispanic caucus. It does the same thing. A Asian Pacific Islander caucus, it does the same thing. And if what’s good for Hispanics or Asians or blacks is bad for Whites, too bad, too bad. Whitey Whites do not have any organized groups that push their interests in a public and recognized way.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[12:37]</strong></span></p>
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<p>In fact, although there are still many powerful Whites, there are many wealthy Whites. There are many Whites in government and decision making, both public and private.</p>
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<p>But I don’t believe there is a single one whom we can count on to speak in the name of Whites, in the interests of Whites. Is there an elected official anywhere? Is there a head of a publicly traded company, who will say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Yes, I’m White, and I speak in the name of Whites.”</span></h3>
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<p>And to say, for example:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Whites have the right to remain a majority or Whites have the right to associate with each other.”</span></h3>
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<p>There is not one person outside of our dissident circles who will speak openly in the name of Whites.</p>
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<p>At the same time, all of this oppression of Whites, telling them constantly that they are victims, this is something against those of us who are dissidents. We have a kind of psychological armor that we can build around ourselves. We can inhabit a psychology of pride in being White, of recognizing our achievements. But this is not something that most Whites are capable of doing. They have to drag themselves through life constantly being hectored, constantly being told that they are privileged, despite the fact that they are dis-privileged at every turn.</p>
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<p>At the same time, those of us who are dissidents and who have a certain amount of money, or even if we’re not dissidents, but we know how to play the Angles, we can shield ourselves from the worst effects of anti-Whiteness. This is not something that all White people can do they can’t all live in Whitopia.</p>
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<p>I’m fortunate. I can live in a suburban part of the United States that is majority White. I can live away from so many of the bad things, the crime, the schools, the terrible schools, the violence. All of these things that ordinary blue collar Whites have to contend with and it is not enough simply for us as dissidents with a certain amount of means to avoid the worst of multiracialism, to protect ourselves.</p>
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<p>I believe we have to think in terms of our White brothers and sisters, wherever they are. And all people of all races, wherever they live, they have the right to grow up in a country that does not tell them they’re dirt. I don’t believe that that is going to be possible across the board in the United States today.</p>
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<p>Not only are we the official designated permanent villains of American history because of Democratic change, because the changes I described, going from 90% to a minority and an increasingly dwindling minority, White Americans are already, in effect, a defeated people. We are refugees in our own country.</p>
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<p>People who grew up in what was clearly an outpost of Europe find themselves that they’re living in an outpost of Guatemala or Mexico or Vietnam or some other place. They are not comfortable there, and they move away. They become refugees, and they go back to parts of the United States which are White, if they can afford it. And some of them can’t.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:55]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And that’s why we have lower class Whites, blue collar Whites who are minorities, in their schools, in their neighborhoods. They, it seemed to me, are the people who are most badly treated!</p>
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<p>And I think it’s no coincidence that it is non-college educated Whites who, according to all of these studies, the ones who are overdosing, their fertility rates are down. They’re dying of alcoholism, suicide. How could it be otherwise, given the way their country is changing and given the way they themselves are being taught? And I will close with a fantasy conversation in my mind.</p>
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<p>I’ve never heard anyone describe this actually happening. But I can imagine a blue collar man. He’s White, he’s a married man. He has children. He works two jobs so that he can send his children to college. They may be the first generation in his family to go to college. And his daughter, his beloved daughter, comes back home after the first semester or the first year in college and says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Dad, don’t you realize that you are part of the White supremacist philocracy? You inherently are oppressing all the non-Whites who have ever lived in the United States!”</span></h3>
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<p>Here’s a guy who works two jobs. He loves his daughter, and he’s not psychologically prepared to answer this kind of accusation. He doesn’t even know the language to deal with this! This is not the kind of experience that a single White person in the United States should ever have to go through.</p>
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<p>And I do not believe, as currently constituted, the United States, either demographically or psychologically or even culturally, can be rebuilt, can be returned to a situation in which that conversation cannot happen, and where Whites are once again masters in their own house, those who are the final arbiters of every aspect, politically, economically, socially, psychologically, of the country in which they live.</p>
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<p>So for that reason, I do not believe the United States, certainly as currently constituted within its current borders, within its current political system, can ever again be genuinely a home for White people!</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Thank you for that, Jared. We’ll go over to Greg Johnson. I think you have to unmute yourself. So, Greg, when you heard Jared make his statement in the video a few weeks ago, and make the statement now, what are your thoughts? What is your position on this issue?</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Well, first of all, Jared’s been saying this sort of stuff for 35 years now. And it struck me, though, that his views about the possibility of fixing America have changed. And my big question is, and we can talk about this later, is what changed his thinking about this? Because my impression was that Jared believed that fundamentally, things could be turned around. If we persuade enough people that the current situation is intolerable and will only get worse, people with goodwill, once they’ve been sufficiently enlightened, can work together to convert more and more people, and eventually changing minds will change the political system, and we can move towards fixing this problem. That was the impression that I had.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[19:28]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And so I’m curious as to why, maybe I had a mistaken impression, or if my impression was correct, why is Jared’s thinking changed on this and changed recently?</p>
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<p>There’s certain bits of language in what you just said, Jared, that I underscored. You said:</p>
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<p>And I guess my question is, do you believe it’s not at all possible or simply extremely unlikely?</p>
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<p>Because if you think it’s extremely unlikely, then I’m with you 100%.</p>
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<p>But I don’t think that it would be impossible or inconceivable to turn America from sea to shining sea, 50 states, et cetera, into a White homeland. Again, a normatively White society, perhaps even a homogeneously, entirely White society. It’s merely very, very difficult and indeed extremely unlikely with each, increasingly unlikely with each passing day, as things get worse, as we become more and more outnumbered.</p>
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<p>Another thing that Jared said in his original video that I took issue with was the statement that it just doesn’t matter who’s elected president in 2024, as far as White interests are concerned. I made a strong case, I think, in my piece that it matters a great deal if Donald Trump gets elected. Because now there’s actual talk of deportation, not just building wall, but deporting some of the millions of non-Whites that have flooded into the country under the Biden administration. I think that that is probably the most needful thing right now, is to get control of the border and maybe start reversing this invasion that’s taken place under Biden.</p>
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<p>Why? Because we need time. Our job was never going to be easy. We have to basically challenge the whole cultural consensus. And if you want to summarize that consensus in a single line, it’s basically the idea that White Identity Politics, and only White Identity Politics, is per se immoral. Every other form of identity politics is fine. Indeed, it will be catered to and pandered to. But White Identity Politics, White people taking their own side in an ethnic conflict, is per se evil!</p>
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<p>And currently, the entire political establishment, the entire cultural establishment, is on the same page about that. Even the people that we look to for some relief on the border, people like Donald Trump. Donald Trump plays by those rules. Donald Trump, during his first administration, said a lot of things that appealed to White people, but the path of least resistance was basically to pander to non-White minorities.</p>
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<p>And so he ended up doing a lot of pandering to non-Whites. Ludicrous and expensive boondoggles like the Platinum Plan and things like that, pardoning rappers and things like that was because Trump wants to take out some insurance. He has this idea that if he can just bend forward and backwards enough to demonstrate that he’s not racist and he’s a really nice guy, people won’t accuse him of the worst possible thing in the world, which is being racist. As long as people think that Whites are not going to be able to win in the political system. Every other group has a trump card, the race card that they can play and we can’t play.</p>
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<p>And that means that with every hand that we play in this rigged game, we lose more and more. And if we keep playing the game with those rules, we’ll lose it all. And that’s been clear for 35 years. Through the entire time that Jared was publishing American Renaissance. It’s been true for the 14 years that I’ve been publishing Counter-Currents.</p>
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<p>We’ve got to change that game, and I think we’re having some success at that. It is possible to draw a lot of alarming lines. Big lines going down, White numbers going down, White futures being canceled. It’s possible to draw a lot of big lines going up, namely the non-White populations. But we have to recognize that, and all of these trends will only result in White dispossession if they’re not interrupted.</p>
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<p>And I think that we, our movement, broadly speaking, has been somewhat successful in interrupting them. We have been getting our memes, our talking points injected now into mainstream political debates.</p>
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<p>I remember in 2011, I watched the coinage of two terms with great excitement. One was the “<em>White Genocide</em>” meme, and the other was “<em>The Great Replacement</em>”. Both of those were birthed in 2011. And those are marginal within the White nationalist sphere for a good long time. Tim Murdoch, who was involved in the White Genocide meme project, told me that I was actually the first person in our sphere who interviewed him about that. I didn’t know that.</p>
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<p>So I was there at the beginning of that. Now people talk about White genocide, stealth White genocide, and the term the Great Replacement is mainstreamed as well. I remember before I started Counter-Currents that I was interested in the idea of secession.</p>
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<p>And at that time I thought Jared would be opposed to such things. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I was interested in secession, exploring the possibility of secession as a topic in political philosophy, as something that could be achieved on different jurisdictional levels. You know, cities breaking away from other cities, counties breaking away, and joining other states, and regions becoming their own countries.</p>
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<p>Those ideas were received with a great deal of frostiness within White nationalist circles. There was a bit of eye rolling about that. Now secession has moved from being marginal within White nationalism to being discussed as a mainstream Republican talking point. They talk about it in terms of national divorce. Interestingly enough, I remember the divorce metaphor for racial separation was born in our milieu, and that has traveled as well.</p>
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<p>Now, of course, what happens as soon. As soon as something gets close to the mainstream, that suck of that stupid idea that there’s nothing worse than White racism, they get in that vortex, and so they’re tempted to drop anything racial and talk about Red states versus Blue states and things like that. But still, well, we’re making progress there, too.</p>
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<p>So I think there’s some hope that we are overcoming the central dogma that stands in the way of White Identity Politics.</p>
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<p>And once Whites can unapologetically take our own sides in ethnic conflicts, reject the White guilt narrative. And most White people don’t believe the White guilt narrative. Ashley Jardina published data back in 2018. So that’s fairly old data.</p>
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<p>And even then, her data indicated that most White people reject the White guilt narrative. And a very substantial percentage of White people think it would be perfectly legitimate for Whites to organize in their ethnic self interest.</p>
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<p>Of course, these ideas are still terrifying to Republican politicians! But politics is downstream from culture. There is going to be a lag in getting political results, even if we’re changing minds.</p>
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<p>So I think there’s a lot to work with here, and I think that we just need to continue what we’re doing.</p>
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<p>The main practical objection that I have to saying that America’s over, in a flat sense, as opposed to saying, it looks bad, folks, unless we can turn this around, is something that Scott Greer brought up in his response to Jared, which is simply that saying stuff like that depresses people. They think:</p>
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<p>I do think that that is a problem. I do think that we have to engage with the political process because that’s where people’s attention is. And we have to use current political debates, both national things like national elections and also local politics, as opportunities to convince people that our worldview is correct. And slowly we will change enough people that perhaps we can fix this.</p>
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<p>My fear is there just not enough serious people in America to fix this problem.</p>
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<p>But I do think that we can try. And I do think that it is conceivable that it is possible, as opposed to not at all possible, that we could salvage America as a White homeland.</p>
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<p>Now everything perishes, and that means America will end, too. I’m quite agnostic about how the future is going to unfold, but I do think that it is at least conceivable that we can aim at fixing all of America as a White homeland.</p>
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<p>And I think that we should aim for that. I think we should aim for the highest possibilities, because the things that we need to communicate to people, whether we want to make America White homeland again, or if we want to partition the country and have a smaller section set aside for White Americans. Whatever our aim, we’re still going to have to say the same things about the fact that White Identity Politics is inevitable. It’s necessary. It’s completely moral!</p>
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<p>And so I think we should just keep making these arguments, making this case, and hoping for the best, but also recognizing that we might have to let America go and that American patriotism, if it’s uncritical, might be something that gets in our way. This is another thing that is astonishing to me about America.</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Yeah. This is my last point.</p>
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<p>One thing that astonishes me about American conservatives is they’re so unimaginative, they are so fixated on the superficial. So they think that as long as the flag is red, white, and blue, as long as we have the same seal and the same institutions and so forth, we can switch out the entire population. That’s an incredibly naive and foolish idea.</p>
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<p>But what that shows is that our enemies have been extremely clever. Instead of launching a frontal assault on the institutions and symbols of America, they’ve done an end run around them. They hollowed them out. They don’t matter! And they don’t matter to us in a certain way. But we shouldn’t, therefore, make a frontal assault on these things, either. Because the people who are happy to see their posterity replaced with Mexicans, with red, white and blue flags would fight like lions if you say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“America, it’s over! We need something new!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Thank you for that, Greg. I’d like to go back to Jared now, and I’d like you to comment on one thing or respond to one thing that Greg said. And that is, did you change your mind about this? And in that case, if you did, what made you change your mind? Because I think that a lot of people were surprised by your statement a few weeks ago when you said that you don’t think that it’s possible to save America.</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> I’d like to reply to a lot of things that Greg Johnson said, but let me dodge that first question. I will get back to it, I promise you. And say one thing, and that is that part of Mr Johnson’s reply has to do with an understandable misunderstanding of what I said.</p>
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<p>And in my original video, I said that it doesn’t make any difference who is elected in November or four years from now or 40 years from now. When I said that I was talking about the United States as being a nation which in its entirety could be a legitimate homeland for White people.</p>
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<p>I was not saying, but I understand why it was possible to understand my remarks in that way. I was not saying that those things don’t matter. They matter a great deal! And I should have made myself clear on that in a previous version of that video, which I gave as a talk. I had said at that point, it doesn’t make any difference who’s elected now, four years from now or 40 years from now.</p>
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<p>What I would say is elections can slow the rot. They can’t reverse the rot! And this upcoming election in a few months, I think is an extremely important one. And to the extent that, and I believe everyone who is following these questions would agree, the demographic circumstance of the United States make a huge difference. What percentage of the American population is White? This election is extremely important in terms of the demographic future of the United States. It may be the most important election ever. I mean, people love to think their election is a particularly important one, but we have a president who basically waves anybody in. And we have a contestant who is saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“No, no, we’re not going to wave everybody in and we’re going to deport millions.”</span></h3>
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<p>Those are stark differences! And they are stark differences on what is, to me, the fundamental political question in the United States today.</p>
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<p>So I’m not saying that politics makes no difference. And to the extent that wide awake White people wish to work, donate money, volunteer in order to help one candidate prevail over another candidate, that is their decision, and I have absolutely no objection to what they do. So politics matter.</p>
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<p>But again, whether it is Trump and the White House in November, or I guess it won’t be done in January, or it’s Joe Biden. In the long term, that won’t change the fact that the United States cannot be a homeland for Whites. And we cannot, I believe, realistically envision a return to a White America of the kind we had in the fifties and sixties given the millions and millions and tens of millions of non-Whites who live here. What are we going to do with them? It’s a practical matter.</p>
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<p>Have I changed my mind? Yes, some years ago, and Greg Johnson is aware of this. We had a debate in the pages of American Renaissance, and I don’t believe I contributed to that debate, but Sam Francis did. And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“It’s preposterous to think that we should settle for just a part of the United States!”</span></h3>
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<p>He thought we could get it back lock, stock, and barrel. It’s just a question of changing enough people’s minds, passing the right policies, persuading people to go back home, and the United States can be ours again. At that time, even at that time, I would have been prepared to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Okay, we’ll draw a line right down the middle of the United States, right down the middle! And we could say to the non-Whites, you pick your half, whichever half you like, and we’ll be satisfied with the other.”</span></h3>
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<p>That was my state of mind then. I’d be happy with just half the continent with a line drawn right down the middle. Because the idea of getting it all back seems to me to be not impossible in the sense that theoretically, anything is possible. But our goals should be realistic goals, and our policies should be ones that I think can lead to some kind of solution.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[36:40]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Now, Greg Johnson is 100% correct to say that the arguments we make about the morality of our position and the legitimacy of our goals, of the founding ideas about the United States as a European White nation, all of those arguments remain the same. I agree 100% that our job is to persuade enough White people to agree with us. If every White person in America agreed with us, then it might be possible to re-establish the United States of America as an all-White country. That might be possible. But at this point, we’re still only a small minority.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in terms of trying to persuade people to agree with us whether or not saving the United States as a whole, or saving a part of the United States, or secession at different levels, as Greg Johnson was talking about earlier, whatever the goal is, our arguments are all the same. We are a people with legitimate rights. We deserve to survive, and to seek to preserve our race and our culture is not only a legitimate and moral thing. We can describe it as, I think, one of the major and primary and most important callings that anyone could have at this period in history. He and I are 100% agree, agreed with that.</p>
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<p>Now, I also agree that our ideas are gaining ground, certainly in the Internet, certainly in the interest in websites like Counter-Currents or American Renaissance or Scanza forum. More and more White people are waking up. There is no question about that. I find it very, very encouraging! Compared to 34 years ago when I started this, the kind of people I meet and in the numbers in which I meet them, very impressive young people! By the time they’re 25, they know things that took me till I was 45 to figure out, and maybe not even then. Very impressive people who understand what’s at stake and are prepared to do something about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So there’s no question about it. Our ideas are gaining, but other sides numbers are gaining and will gain simply through natural increase, even if Donald Trump seals the border and expels 11, 12, 20 million illegal immigrants! The numbers are against us in terms of getting the whole thing back.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[38:57]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So this is a very long, long and roundabout way of explaining, yes, I have changed my mind. When I first started in 1990, I did think that because the case for White Identity Politics, if you will, had been made in a crude and overbearing and mean spirited way. I very naively thought that if our case were to be made reasonably on the basis of biological fact, of historical allusion, to an expression of reciprocal understanding and mutually agreed voluntary separation, at least locally, all of this could be achieved without decades and decades and decades of lack of progress.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, I was spectacularly naive. I had certainly thought that by now, ideas about racial consciousness would be very much in the mainstream. And Greg Johnson said earlier that the talk of secession is almost mainstream. Well, it is to a degree. People talk about Texas seceding. But not for the reasons we want it to secede. People talk about New Hampshire, the great, the Pacific Northwest seceding, but not for the right reasons. We have to convince them to openly state racial reasons for this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, and finally, on the question of preserving the symbols of America, I agree 100%, because we have the same flag, we have the same constitution. We have the same form of government. We have the same capital building. It’s been there since the 18 hundreds. We have the same three branches of government. It is easy for Conservatives. I mean, Greg Johnson said they had a lack of imagination. I think you could say that they have a sickly inspired imagination. To think that all of these things can work for an utterly different people. This runs so contrary to everything we know about history that to believe that if in fact they do, shows a kind of fevered imagination. But the idea, the conservative idea:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, we’re going to get back to the Constitution, and that will save us!”</span></h3>
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<p>Obvious folly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I remember at CPAC<span style="color: #008000;"> [Consevative Political Action Conference]</span>, I attended CPAC just this last time around. It is a spectacular show of a touching earnestness! These White people care deeply about their country, but they have either no idea or they deliberately suppress the idea that their country can be the country they want only if it is a country of White people. There is a deep sadness when I see these people cheering the flag and saying such things as:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, get Trump back in the office and we’ll restore Christian values!”</span></h3>
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<p>What kind of crazy goofiness is that? Some of the speakers actually say that, or they are talking, yammering about how the Constitution will save us. No, no! They have to be guided to a realistic understanding of the biology of community, not that it’s a piece of paper.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so in that sense, I’m in 100% agreement with Greg Johnson. Our job as educators continues.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’m also in agreement. I’m agnostic about the future, too. I don’t know how things will fall together. But if we do our job correctly, and if enough people do begin to agree with us, things will fall together in ways we can’t even imagine. But we’re not there yet. And I cannot realistically anticipate they’re falling together in a way that the entire United States once again becomes our home.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[42:41]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Thank you so much for that, Jared.</p>
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<p>I want to go back to Greg now and let him comment as well on some of the things that Jared Taylor said here. And I’d like to ask the direct question to you, Greg. Do you think that, I mean, putting aside the question of whether it’s moral and just and right that America should become a normatively White country and go back to that, do you think it’s realistic, do you think that it’s actually realistic that America can become something like it was in the fifties, six sixties? Again, if we’re talking only about racial composition of the country, of course, where White people are 90% or something like where it is a White country again. Do you think that that’s actually a realistic goal?</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Yes, practically, in this sense. It was possible for us to go from a 90% White country to a 60% White country in a little over 50 years. Why did that happen? Well, because certain demographic trends were Instituted by political policy. And if that’s the case, then it is just as possible, in the broad sense, metaphysically possible, that these trends could be reversed. That we would have net emigration of non-Whites rather than immigration. That demographic trends that are not favorable to Whites could be shifted, that we could increase White birth rates, and that we could go in another 50 years of slow ethnic transformation back to a country with 90% White majority.</p>
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<p>And I’ve actually proposed that. I have an essay in my book called White Identity Politics. It’s called the Uppity White Folks Manifesto. And I look at this as a sort of a more politically realistic proposal to put out than simply a completely ethnically homogeneous homeland, although that’s what I would want. And that is something that you could get people who are a little closer to the political mainstream on board with and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Okay, we are alarmed by the demographic decline of the White majority, and we want to keep America a country to be proud of, and that means that we have to halt and reverse the demographic line of the White majority.”</span></h3>
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<p>These policies could be put in place and we could give it 50 years. So you don’t have to be rushing people across the border. You just have the right incentives in place, and then you just allow time to work its magic, and it can be done in a way that’s almost invisible. And so 50 years down the road, people will wake up one morning and they’ll start noticing things. It’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Wait, where did all the crime and ugliness go?”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s been slowly removed from our cities. That is a possibility.</p>
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<p>I have an essay. It’s a chapter in my White Nationalist Manifesto called Restoring White Homelands, where I lay out a way of doing this in a gradual way that could be squared with the moral intuitions of most Americans.</p>
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<p>Now, will that happen? Well, we would need to build a huge political consensus on its behalf, and we would need to maintain that consensus in power for decades and put these policies into operation. It’s conceivable. Is it likely? Well, not bloody likely right now! But increasingly likely with each passing day that we communicate our ideas to more people and convince more people that we’re right.</p>
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<p>So I think it’s perfectly possible, it’s perfectly conceivable. If it was possible for them to come here, it’s possible for them to leave. That’s the basic intuition that I have. And the people who say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“We just can’t get rid of all these people!”</span></h3>
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<p>You have to say, you just have to say that as the mantra:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“If it was possible for them to come here, it’s possible for them to leave!”</span></h3>
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<p>What about the ones who were born here? If it’s possible for their parents to come here, it’s possible for them to go back with their parents. What about family reunification? Well, that can take place in Manila, Karachi and Lagos as well.</p>
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<p>All of these arguments, these arguments that posit some kind of false necessity for White demographic decline, well, they are false. There’s a false necessity that’s been being asserted here, a false inevitability, a false moral necessity. And we simply have to reject that and turn it around.</p>
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<p>So, yeah, if it’s just a question of what’s practical, the practicality question can be dismissed easily. There are all these airliners coming full of people. They have to go back! The airliners can go back. Why not have them go back full rather than empty? People walk across the border. They can walk across the border the other way. That’s the basic response.</p>
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<p>It’s not a question of what’s practicable. It’s a question of will! It’s a question of political will. And that has everything to do with our moral ideas about what’s desirable. And therefore, we have to work on people’s moral sensibilities. We have to soften them up, show them that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Yes, White people can have a future, and you can square it with your soft, post modern bourgeois sensibilities.”</span></h3>
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<p>People accept all the time that people move because of economic reasons. You graduate from college, you’re looking for a job. Well, you might have to move across the continent. You get a job in a big company, that company moves you across the continent. Again, we accept this. We accept that kind of stuff all the time. There’s no moral qualms whatsoever about people being moved around for economic reasons. So why can we not communicate to people that there should be no moral qualms about moving people around for far more important reasons, namely, to save the ethnic integrity of the culture of the country, to save our race, to make the world a better place? I think that’s possible. It’s a tall order.</p>
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<p>But again, which with each passing day, as we apply ourselves to this problem, it gets more and more possible.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[49:48]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Thank you for that, Greg. I want to ask you a question, pose a challenge to the both of you.</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> May I reply to a specific point there?</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Yes, go ahead, Jared.</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> The equivalence of people walking across the border one way and walking across the border the other way, failed due to one fundamental fact. They wanted to walk across the border one way, and you are proposing that they walk across the border in the other way despite the fact that they don’t want to! And to persuade them, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Make them want to!</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Well, you’re talking about enormous, enormous incentives or enormous incentives, either positive or negative, and that is the difference.</p>
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<p>Now, as I said before, if every White person in America agreed with you and me that we have a moral right to be us, only we can be us, and we have the right to be us, then all kinds of things would happen.</p>
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<p>But I don’t think we can count on persuading every single White person, and we won’t persuade many of the non-Whites at all! Many of them will say, American Indians and blacks will say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Look, we’ve been here as long as you have. We’re staying. You can’t make us leave unless it’s at bayonet point or in exchange for $5 million once they go away, and never promise to come back.”</span></h3>
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<p>So on a practical matter, and even in terms of a moral matter, getting these people to go, if they’ve been here generation after generation after generation, I think even White people who would agree with us that we deserve a future, many of them would balk at the idea of telling people whose ancestors came here, sometimes against their will, been here for generations, say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You got to clear out, fellas!”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s a very tough thing. That’s a very tough thing to sell.</p>
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<p>So even though the practicalities of secession are extremely daunting, I believe that they are more realistic than persuading hundreds of millions of people to bugger off!</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Well, it’s not hundreds of millions yet! But you raise a good point.</p>
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<p>First of all, I do think that the actual indigenous people in North America should retain their systems of reservations. They should go back to being citizens of their tribes, and they have a very generous settlement, and there should be no, we should not disturb a feather on their heads. Okay.</p>
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<p>As for the blacks, the descendants of black slaves, I favor finding them homeland somewhere of their own. I think that’s only fair. And it would be infinitely superior from our point of view, infinitely cheaper, even in the long term, to just find them a homeland and settle them there and give them every incentive.</p>
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<p>As for the people who come here, who come here recently and by recently, I mean the last 50 years. People who have, it’s getting on to 60 years now, isn’t it? The people who come here in the last six decades, mostly out of economic reasons, we can change the economic incentives.</p>
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<p>The people who come illegally, well, we can simply ship those out very quickly.</p>
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<p>The people who came here under false pretenses. And that might include millions when you start looking at all the paperwork and their families.</p>
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<p>Of course, we can’t deport somebody and break up families, so we’d have to send the whole family back to Manila. Just by sort of taking it in slices. First, all the illegals go, then all the people who are here under false pretenses go. Then there are significant numbers of people after that who have acquired citizenship or amnesty or whatever. Well, you find what incentives would keep them here and what incentives would make them go, and you start applying those incentives.</p>
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<p>It’s completely conceivable that you could do this. And conceivable in the metaphysical sense, I can imagine that we could get America back to a 90% White majority country with a minimum amount of upset and bloodshed and people could go about their lives in a normal way, and gradually things would get better and better. I think that that’s completely conceivable.</p>
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<p>And we owe it to our people, who are the most morally squeamish people on the planet, to an unhealthy degree, to square that with their consciences. I think we can do that.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[54:39]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So, yes, you may raise a very good point about the indigenous people. They have their homelands, their reservations. A very good point about the Afro-Americans. Yes, we should secure a homeland for them. Let’s call it Wakanda. But there are many millions of people who have arrived in the last nearly 60 years who, &#8230; And many of these people, there are many Chinese.</p>
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<p>I used to live in a neighborhood of San Francisco that used to be an Irish neighborhood, but when I lived there, it was majority Chinese. There were people working in banks and the post office in my neighborhood in San Francisco who were 6th generation Americans, Chinese Americans, and only spoke enough English to get by in their jobs.</p>
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<p>And if you ask them a question that was a little outside the ordinary, they’d be totally flustered!</p>
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<p>And I thought that was extraordinary! There are many of these groups, some of these Asian groups especially, who have been in America for a long time, but have never become of America. I think it’s perfectly conceivable that if the grass is greener elsewhere, that they might be inclined to uproot themselves and they’ve already maintained a huge amount of their language and cultural continuity.</p>
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<p>So if we apply our imaginations to these things, I think we could certainly get America back to status quo. 1965 in ethnic terms.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[56:07]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> I want to pose another challenge to the both of you, which I think adds to the problem, in addition to, of course, the logistics and so on that you mentioned. Of course, people can travel in both directions. But I do think that there is a, there’s a generational problem that I would like both of you to comment on. I’d like to share an article with you on the screen. We mentioned 2011 before, and this is an article from CNN from 2012. It says here, and I remember clearly the day when this news was published:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“That US minorities now represent more than half of America’s population under the age of one.”</span></h3>
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<p>This was in 2011. So this is now almost 15 years ago. The Census Bureau said the:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Defining the minority as anyone who is not single White race and not Hispanic released estimates that now a majority were minorities as of July 1, 2011.”</span></h3>
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<p>Like I said, this is an article. I remember when this news came out because it’s, of course, a tipping point when this happened, when the births are majority non-White in America. And this poses a question about the generations, because I think that if you grow up in a society, a White society, that you consider the normal society, and then you see something going wrong, you can conceive of the idea of going back to normal.</p>
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<p>And I think that, well, I definitely grew up in Scandinavia, when I grew up, when I was a child, was definitely overwhelmingly majority White. And still is majority White, but it was normatively, was just Scandinavian countries, were White countries.</p>
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<p>And I believe that when both of you grew up in America, it was normatively White. But if we look at the younger generations, and that’s why I brought up that article, the people who are now in their twenties, that was no longer the case.</p>
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<p>So my point here is that they’ve never even seen a White America, America as a White country. Don’t you think it’s more, even more difficult for them to even grasp the idea, understand what it means to go back to a society, type of society that they’ve never seen? Because for us, it’s going back to normal. For them, it’s going back to something that they’ve never, ever seen! And so as the generations go by, the younger generations will have an even more bigger problem with going back. Well, I’d like you to comment on that, Jared, first.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[58:47]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> I would say, not necessarily. There was a fellow by the name of Patterson, Robert Patterson. He was the founder of the White Citizens Councils, and he had, I think, an extreme, an intriguing expression. It was:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“The best cure for integration fever is a stiff dose of negroes!”</span></h3>
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<p>Now, he didn’t use the word “<em>negroes</em>”. I’m paraphrasing. The idea being if you think that multiracialism is a wonderful thing, well, just experience it and that will cure you. I’ve been dismayed that it has not cured people to the extent that I would hope that it would.</p>
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<p>But for many young people, the young people that I meet who are, as I say, extremely impressive, well informed, understand what’s at stake and are committed, they, I believe, have come to their dissident views, not necessarily because they read Greg Johnson’s website or mine, but because they’ve looked around them and they’ve seen just how awful everything is.</p>
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<p>Now, as soon as they begin to wonder, is this the way things should be, then there is no difficulty. With a few clicks of the Internet, they can find people who say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“No, that’s not the way it should be! And that’s not the way it always has been. And we have every right to wish to return to a White, homogeneous America.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I don’t think it’s necessarily an obstacle, as you’ve described it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Greg, what do you think about the generational issues? Is it more likely that Zoomers and even the younger generation, which I don’t even know what they’re called, the generation that’s younger than Zoomers, is it more likely that they will be able to reverse this than it is for us who grew up in a society that was normatively White?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> It’s a very good question. I do think Jared’s right, though.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The idea that exposing people to diversity makes them love it is false. The more you are exposed to it, the more people rebel against it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, some people, if they’re exposed to it too much, will, of course, just sort of give in. They’ll lose their identity and they’ll just go along with it. That’s clearly a possibility. And that’s sort of what I think our enemies are counting on. If we can simply be overwhelmed and demoralized to the point where we’re like White Rhodesians or White South Africans, then it’ll be game over.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I do think, however, that short of that demoralization point, increased diversity is causing a backlash. And yes, I agree with Jared. It’s not because Jared Taylor and I are silver tongue persuaders on the Internet that we are seeing these nationalist and populist shifts in voting. Okay, well, the real reason we’re seeing these shifts is because people are observing with their own eyes the heinous effects of globalization and multiculturalism. That’s the thing that’s waking people up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What happens then is they find us and we provide sort of a finishing school. We explain why this is the case, why it’s inevitable, and help them entertain thoughts about alternatives, which is why I write things like Restoring White Homelands. It might seem utopian to some people, but it’s worth exploring these possibilities, because so many people have falsely constrained sense of what’s possible. So we need to expand their imaginations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:02:29]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, diversity repulses a lot of people. It creates problems. The problems are covered up. People notice the cover-ups. That makes the system less and less credible, and they come searching for alternatives. And we are the alternative.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as long as we can stay on the Internet and people can find us, we will continue to convince people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And of course, they’ve done everything they can to make that more and more difficult. I did a search for one of my own articles using the search function on Counter-Currents, which is a duckduckgo plugin. And I found that Duckduckgo had censored certain articles of mine from results, so had Google.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I couldn’t even use this function to search my own website and find certain articles by me. Maybe it’s just the quickest way to get the link is just to plug it in the search bar. That’s extraordinary! I had a bunch of friends check in various countries to see if they could find this particular article. Most of them could not. And that’s how censored the system is. The. But still, people are finding their way to us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And of course, when we have relatively greater freedom, like on Twitter today, and of course, everybody should be campaigning who’s on Twitter to get Jared Taylor back. You know, when we have a little bit more freedom, it’s astonishing how much interesting stuff circulates around and how quickly people can red pill.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Jared said something that I observed as well. I meet people who are in their twenties, who know more about things than I knew when I was 40. And one of the things that I wanted to do ever since founding Counter-Currents and even before that, is try and reach people when they’re really young to save them time. That’s what education does. We don’t have to reinvent the wheel with each generation. We can take it from our ancestors, and that saves us time, and we can build new things on it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s another thing that’s a great success in our movement. We have made information available that has accelerated the racial education of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people, far beyond the rate at which Jared and I learned these things, because it was just harder to learn these things on our own or with the resources that were available in our time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Did you want to answer Jared before we take questions?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> I don’t want to exclude questions, but I do want to make a point.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:05:21]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> With regard to something that Greg Johnson said earlier about our moral squeamishness. I think that is a tremendous defect of White people. We are morally squeamish. For practically every other race all you need to do is tell them:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, this is in your interest.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And without any kind of mental deliberation, they’ll say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Great, we want it!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The idea that it might be not in someone else’s interest, the idea that it might hurt them, that doesn’t seem to hold them back at all, especially in the case of blacks. If it’s good for them, just to heck with everybody else! And not a shred of a thought, otherwise.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We are not that way. We are just not that way. And that has held us back in many important ways. And to me, this moral squeamishness will come into play the more you are telling White people:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Look, in order to get what we deserve and what we need, you’ve got to take these millions of people and kick them out of the country, or persuade them to get out of the country!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My suspicion is that aside from all the practicalities, the moral squeamishness problem would be in trying to re-establish an entirely White United States, rather than in, I think, what sounds like a more fair minded way, saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Okay, we made a mistake, but you’re here. At least you’re a citizen. Stripping people of citizenship, this sort of thing sounds pretty grim.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Okay, we’re going to make a fair division of the spoils the way things are, of course, the illegals have got to go.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think that is going to be less of a problem for our morally squeamish brothers and sisters than saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Okay, we’re going to take the whole thing back!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s just one point I wish to make.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Very good. Thank you for that. Okay, I want to read some questions from the audience, and then I’ll get back to letting you finish the debate by asking each other questions or adding whatever you want to add. But let’s take some questions from the audience. Open Borders for Israel sends $5. He says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m from Australia, so we’ll miss this. But it’s not just the US that is in trouble. According to demographics projections, there will be 4.5.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think he means billion:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Africans, by 2100, with Nigeria alone having more people than the entire EU by 2060. 75% of young Africans want to go to Europe. What do you think Europe’s future is?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I’d let both of you answer this. Do you have any thoughts about comparing America with Europe? Is it more difficult in one place or the other?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> After you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Let’s start with you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Oh, me again? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> All right. Well, I think our problems are exactly the same. It is mustering the will to do what every other race would do without compunction. And it’s mustering the will to say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Okay, sorry, this is for us! Our ancestors built it for us, and you can’t come!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is something that Whites, even if they know in their bones that they should be able to say this, are unable to say it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think you find that across the White world, only a few very small Eastern European countries seem to have that in them. So western Europe faces exactly the same problem that we do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:08:46]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Greg, do you want to comment on this?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I do think Europe is more hopeful, for two reasons. One, yes, Eastern Europe is a bit more sensible than western Europe. And two, the race replacement immigration into Europe is far more recent than what’s happened in America. And therefore, it’s far more conceivable that it can simply be reversed in its entirety.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think people would have far fewer moral qualms about reversing it in its entirety. It’s going to be a tough battle, even in Europe, but it is more conceivable that Europe could be restored to a Europe of different homelands for European peoples. And the recent interlopers will simply go back to where they came from.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> I agree. The rot has not gone as far in Europe. Well, I suppose, as Greg Johnson suggested, there is Zimbabwe and there’s South Africa. But really, the United States is the bellwether here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Yeah. I have spoken to people in Europe, our European comrades, and they’ll say things to me that are just amusing, but incredibly encouraging. I met a fellow in 2015 in Hungary, and he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Greg, we have a terrible race problem in Hungary!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“What?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“We have 500 Africans!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“What, like, in the neighborhood?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“No, in the whole country?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said to him:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“I’ve been on subway trains with 500 Africans.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Yes! But there was a time when your country only had 500 Africans too!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“This is true. I can’t argue with this.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the point is that Europeans are far more fussy about this, when the numbers are tiny, than Americans. Americans don’t react until, you know, unfortunately, it’s almost too late.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas Europeans are more ethnocentric, and even small numbers of immigrants seem intolerable to them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas in America they just seem like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Oh, that’s just normal life.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So when European countries will say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“We’ve got a serious problem, we have 5% non-White!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Americans roll their eyes and think:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“What I would give to live in a 5% non-White country.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the very fact that they’re more sensitive to these problems when they’re much smaller, makes it more likely that they’ll be able to fix them in their entirety.c Root and branch.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Thank you for that. Gadius Maximus sends $10, he says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“A challenge for Mr Taylor. Why not be optimistic for the future when the Spanish Reconquista is a historical precedent we can draw inspiration from? It seems to me that all of this is over as soon as we take our own side.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So how does the current situation compare to the Reconquista, Jared?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:12:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> The Spaniards never ever gave up taking their own side. We have given up taking our own side for decades. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[As a result of non-stop Orgjew brainwashing]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as I agreed already, if everyone in America agreed that we had the right to this continent, we would get it back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But that is just not realistic. I think we have to set our goals in realistic ways, and again in terms of overcoming our squeamish brethren. The idea of settling for a part of the country is more realistic.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Something else, though, that has occurred to me in that matter. Say there was a secession and a division of the spoils. I wouldn’t put it out of the realm of possibility that as the non-White part of the United States fell into economic difficulties and all sorts of problems, they might end up selling chunks of it back to us over the years. So we might end up with all of it! I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But historical parallels, mostly fail. And in this case I think they do fail, because again, the Spaniards never lost any sense that, it was hundred years later, but Christians recognized that they were not Muslims in a way that White Americans do not recognize that these interlopers are not themselves, and this is incompatible. I think that parallel is false.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Thank you for that. Greg, do you want to give a brief comment about the Reconquista comparison?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I do think that we should look at historical examples, because a lot of times people will say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“It’s not possible to send millions of Mexicans back!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then you point out, well, actually, no, in the 20th century, the United States government sent millions of Mexicans back twice! That sort of ends arguments like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yes, of course, at that time, we had a different consensus even in the leadership caste of the nation. We need to get back to that kind of thinking, just like we need to get back to the thinking of the Spanish, who never lost a sense that this was their land.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another nation that we should look to is the Irish. The Irish never gave up hope, and eventually they got most of their land back, and became an independent nation after centuries of occupation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it is possible, if you maintain your identity and your sense of a right to have your own homeland, to be a free people in your own land. Without that, you’ve got no hope. With that, basically, it’s just a matter of figuring out how! It’s not a matter of, &#8230; Your will is activated, and then it’s just a matter of solving the problem at hand.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:13:53]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> All right. Okay. Moving on to the next question. A real Ubermensch sends $20. He says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Jared, love you, man! But there is a particular group of people who unify effectively behind the principle of and policy of browning America. They are the most disproportionately over-represented group of the multicultural movement. And yet you never seem to criticize them regarding this.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, this is a question <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[of jewish power]</strong></span> we’ve heard many times, Jared, I’d leave it up to you if you want to answer it. Do you want to comment on that, Jared?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Oh, my opinions on this are well established. I think certainly in the aggregate, the jews have been very destructive in terms of undermining the moral legitimacy of any kind of White racial consciousness. But that does not mean, in my view, that every single jew is an enemy <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[A straw man point to make-K]</strong></span>. And that is where I part company with the many in our movement.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that there are some jews who are committed men of the West who can be our allies. And they are invariably people who recognize, as I do, the aggregate effect of jews. But I never criticize those who want to discuss the role of jews in gentile societies. I don’t consider that my primary focus, but there are plenty of other people who do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> All right. Very good.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>ThinRedLine sends $10. He says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Mr Jared Taylor, what do you think is the solution for White America?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if we can’t go back, Jared, what is the solution then? Is that secession, or what is the solution you propose?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Ironically, it was precisely what Greg Johnson said earlier in his opening statement. It would be disengagement at various levels, whether it’s at the community level, whether it’s county or state, some recognition that Whites can gather together and form communities.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, to me, perhaps it would be possible at the national level simply to recognize that it is a natural inclination of people of all races to prefer the company of people like themselves. That to me, is far more realistic than saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Okay, the country made a mistake. We need to be majority White again!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Reversing that process, I think, is much, much more difficult than saying at the national level even, or even at the state level, recognizing, okay, if Koreans want Korean churches, there’s nothing wrong with that. If blacks want black societies for this and that and the other, black associations of sociologists or black steam shovel drivers, whatever it is, that’s okay. And it’s okay for Whites to have White churches and Whites to have White communities and stop trying to force people together!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Government at every level is in the business of forcing people together! If government just got out of that business and let the natural ethnocentric nature of humans flourish, then that would be an important first step to local disengagement. But disengagement of one form or another, whether it is de jure, de facto, or even across state lines, or ultimately to establishing local sovereignties within the United States that were, if not 100% White, explicitly White. That is, to me, the only realistic solution at this point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, of course, we can all imagine going back to an all White or overwhelmingly White United States of America within its current boundaries. I just don’t think it’s possible.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:18:25]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> All right. Let’s move on to the next question. Potato Mutt. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> That’s $2. He says:</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’ve seen Greg on Decameron before, but never Uncle Jared. Is there any chance we could see him this year? Assuming he has plans for Decameron this year?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We’ve actually seen Jared on the first Decameron we were talking about. What was the film? Harakir?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> That’s correct. My favorite movie.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Very good.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the viewer can go back and look at that and hopefully we’ll have Jared on again to talk about some other film.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, Green Party sent $5. This is an interesting question:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How would Mr Taylor alter his strategy slash message if he could go back in time to 1990 and start American Renaissance all over again?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Would you change anything in your message, Jared, if you could go back and start over?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> You know, I don’t think I would. Does that mean I’ve learned nothing from, &#8230; Learned no lessons from 34 years of doing the same thing? Perhaps? No, I don’t think so. the importance of racial differences in IQ, the moral legitimacy of White racial consciousness, the rightness and just the necessity of White taking their own destinies in their hands and recognizing that they are a legitimate group. None of that message would change, I don’t believe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Very good. All right. Wrath of Arminius sends $25. Loyal, longtime supporter of the show. He says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I generally agree with Jared Taylor. Gregory Hood’s Amren article to the Ronin of the West is well worth the read.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you for that. I don’t think I read that article. Okay. The Woodlander sends $10. He says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thank you both, Jared and Greg. Some great points raised by both. And thank you to Frodi for organizing the debate. On reflection, I think Jared has it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you for that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, let me see if we also have some questions over on Entropy. Okay, a bunch of them. I’ll Take My Stance sent $50. Very generous! Says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Austrian activist Martin Sellner has excellent messaging and tactics, like a large portion of the American Right, albeit a more limited issue. Are either of you following Sellner, and if so, what is your opinion of what he’s doing in Europe?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Greg, let’s start with you. Do you have any comments on this?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I followed Sellner for years. I think he’s very brave, very intelligent, very articulate, and has great messaging. So I highly respect him and support him. Roger Devlin just reviewed Sellner’s most recent book, which is on remigration at Counter-Currents. That was just reviewed last week, I believe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you want to see what he’s been up to recently, and you don’t want to read a short book in German, you can read Roger Devlin’s summary. But I hold him in the highest esteem, and I don’t fear for the long term future of Austria or Germany, because there are enough serious people in those countries.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:21:45]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Jared, do you want to add a comment?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Oh, I share Greg Johnson’s very hard regard for Martin Sellner.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In fact, he’ll be putting in an appearance at the next American Renaissance conference, probably by video, because he’s unlikely to be able to get a visa for the United States. He’s going to do his best, but I suppose this could be my entree to make a plug for the American Renaissance Conference, November 15 through 17th. We’ve just started advertising it.</p>
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<p>But no, the idea of remigration this is a word that is now current in Europe, in a way that it’s not in the United States, and that simply underscores the greater willingness of Europeans to think in terms of saving their own civilization.</p>
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<p>Now, I certainly agree with Greg Johnson that because the rot is not so deep in Europe and because minorities have not been present in enormous numbers for nearly as long as in the United States, people are not as accustomed to it, and I believe their chances are greater.</p>
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<p>Now I must say I was shocked when Dries van Langenhoen, the Flemish activist who has been condemned to prison now for his opinions. It’s an absolutely outrageous treatment of another man in whom I hold the highest regard! A very, very talented, remarkable man! He told me that many people in Europe think that the United States as the one country with the largest number of Whites, we hold the key to success for White movements all around the world. I was dismayed to hear that! Because I believe that in many respects, we’re the farthest gone! We’re the ones who manufacture the poisons that we’re trying to get Europeans all around the world to drink.</p>
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<p>And I think it’s going to be much harder to save America in that sense than it is even Europe or Great Britain. Especially in the case of Great Britain, as far gone as it is, I think it would be easier to save Britain than the United States.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Interesting. Thank you for that. Here’s an interesting question. $5 from My Row House, says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“China, through Mao greatly increased their birth rates, then decreased with one child policy. No such policy could work for Europeans. Question mark. We are too free and not prone to authoritarianism.”</span></h3>
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<p>So is it less, are Europeans too individualistic and free? Is it less likely to be possible to socially engineer higher birth rates among Europeans or White people? I guess Europeans in the diaspora, in America, and so on.</p>
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<p>Let’s start with you, Greg. Do you have any comments on this?</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Oh, I think it would be relatively easy to socially engineer higher birth rates, especially if we control the media and academia. Because people respond to this. Most people are not independent thinkers. Most people respond to social cues. One could increase birth rates simply by having more romantic comedies where attractive couples have babies, and have more television ads where you have families, attractive couples with happy kids. You could change the image of the average family from a two child family, which represents slow demographic decline, to a three child family, which represents healthy growth. All of these things could be done, I think, relatively easily.</p>
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<p>Another thing a well organized society should do is simply close certain professions to women.</p>
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<p>I think that we should go back to the model of making it possible for a working man to own a house and support a wife and, 2.1 children on a single income.</p>
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<p>And one of the reasons why that is not possible, aside from immigration and globalization, is (((feminism))). Work force competition from women.</p>
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<p>So I do think that certain sectors of the economy should be closed off to female workers.</p>
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<p>The absurd idea that we need women in combat positions in the military, or women fire-fighters, or women police, those are the easiest places to do that if we simply make it more necessary for women to, and more possible for women to become housewives, and not fritter away their time with jobs and college, the better.</p>
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<p>Another incentive that we can do, and I believe this is something that a neoconservative writer, a jewish neocon, I believe Leon Cass proposed back in the nineties, is to encourage more women to have children when they’re fertile, intelligent women. What we should do is create incentives for women to start families before they go to college. And then give them college education incentives after their children start going to grade school. I think a lot of women would follow such incentives. And the best kind of women, the more intelligent ones, would follow those.</p>
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<p>So I think it’s perfectly possible to socially engineer higher birth rates, even in highly individualistic countries. Because even in highly individualistic countries, we’re not that independent minded. And we’re taking all kinds of cues from the culture around us, and we’re following rational economic incentives. That’s what individualists do. We can change those incentives.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Jared, do you want to comment on this?</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Yes, I think all the things, all those things can be done, but the most important would be to give White people a sense of being part of a race that deserves to continue. The sense of racial nationalism.</p>
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<p>I understand. I’ve never heard this verified, but I remember someone once telling me that there was a slogan in Victorian England, and it had to do with childbirth, or the mechanism that ultimately results in childbirth.</p>
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<p>On the assumption that women were not eager to participate in this act, they were urged to:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Grit your teeth and think of England!”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, these days, ladies don’t have to be told to grit their teeth, but they should be told to think of America, if it’s a White America, or think of Estonia.</p>
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<p>Giving people monetary incentives is one thing. Keeping them out of profession is another. Telling them to have children before they go to college, all of those things may do something. But you will find in the United States today, racially conscious families of, if you have a racially conscious husband and a wife, they want to have children for all the right reasons.</p>
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<p>And it is this mentality that I think could give birth to large numbers of White children if that were, again, part of the social atmosphere, the sort of social cues that Greg Johnson was talking about.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:29:09]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I would like to add one small thing. Also, the problem is not so much that there are too few of us, it’s that there are too many of them within our homelands. And it’s a very bad frame to think of this as a breeding war with the third world. Because we’ll never win that battle. What we need to do, first and foremost, is secure our own borders and our own living spaces. And at that point, we can sort out the demographic issues.</p>
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<p>People talk about declining populations. People talk about, with great alarm, countries like Japan. Its population is declining. But Japan was a great nation with half the population that it has today. I don’t see any reason why we always need to have a growing population. Part of that has to do with certain Ponzi scheme, social welfare and economic policies that have been put in place that could be changed.</p>
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<p>So I think the main thing is to regain control of our borders and our destiny, and then we can worry about the demographic thing.</p>
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<p>Of course, White people who are awake in the here and now, they should be doing what they can to have families. But we are not going to win if we just see this as a breeding war.</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> On the other hand, it’s more important ultimately, at some point, once things even up, to have at least a number of births, that equals the number of deaths. It’s all very well to say Japan was a great country with half its population. But if it is reduced to half, there’s got to be something that keeps it from being reduced to a quarter and a tenth, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Yeah. Very good. We have a bunch of questions, so we’ll continue. Green Party sends $3:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Great debate!”</span></h3>
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<p>Thank you so much!</p>
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<p>And then there’s one from Michael, which I think I’ll have to rephrase a little bit. He sends $14.88. He say, basically has a question about sexual values in society, about recriminalizing what he calls sexual degeneracies, and legal aspects about miscegenation, transgenderism and so on.</p>
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<p>Are those factors problem in boosting childbirths? So:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Legal issues connected with homosexuality, miscegenation and transgenderism and so on.”</span></h3>
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<p>Do you have any comments on that? Jared? Do you want to say anything about that?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:31:55]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Oh, boy! I think certainly it’s a sign of a very degenerate society, when we pretend that men can become women and women can be become men, and men who pretend to be women can compete in women’s sports. All of this is just utterly absurd! As far as homosexuality is concerned, I don’t like open, proud, in your face homosexuality, but my suspicion is that most people who are homosexuals. They’re born that way. And I consider it. I would make an analogy between that and say, deafness. We don’t persecute deaf people, but we don’t celebrate the idea of deafness.</p>
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<p>And I think homosexuality should certainly not be illegal. I think it is something that people have very little choice over. And I’ve known many homosexuals who have been smart and racially aware and who are wonderful contributors to our cause. But that, to me, what are the roots of this kind of the transgender problem, for example? I’m not sure that laws can really be brought to bear.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I suppose they could be, but this bespeaks a rot in our minds that goes beyond the legal. There is a kind of spiritual malaise, a moral malaise, a nihilism, celebration of this kind of women slicing off their breasts and trying to grow beards. This is anti-human. This is absurd and preposterous! And a society that thinks that these are somehow a persecuted group. This is a sign of a deeper, deeper malaise that goes perhaps beyond even the limits of this conversation.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Greg, do you want to comment on that?</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I do think the transgender phenomenon is horrific and nightmarish and dystopian. I do think that it can be stopped legally.</p>
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<p>First of all, it should not be done to children. I think that that is something that could be simply outlawed. I think that a lot of its driven by Munchausen, by proxy, crazed mothers. And the idea that these children are autonomously choosing to go down this path is ludicrous! If they’re not old enough to consent to sex, they’re not old enough to consent to sex change operations. And pills, that should be illegal. Doctors who should simply be prohibited from allowing that, from encouraging that at the cost of losing their license to practice medicine. I think these hormones should be as illegal as fentanyl. And fentanyl should be more illegal than it already is. As for treating this with surgery and hormones for adults, well, they’re consenting adults, but this is being packaged as a mental health issue.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:34:58]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And yet within the canons of mental health provision, I can’t think of a single example, aside from transsexualism, where a solution that still eventuates in 40% of the people who suffer it killing themselves is considered a legitimate treatment for a mental problem. It’s utterly ludicrous!</p>
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<p>So I think that packaging this as a treatment for mental illness is very foolish, because, honestly, it’s not a very good treatment at all! There might be other treatments.</p>
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<p>In fact, I remember years ago, I think this was 2015 now. Reading something about a trial study that was done in Australia, I believe, giving people with body dysmorphia a certain kind of antidepressant, and that this caused them to lose their mania to transform themselves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>A large number of the people who go in for this, especially women, are the rarest of birds, female autists. We need to explore all the psychological predispositions that allow people to be gaslighted into this hideous self mutilation and try and try and treat it at that level. Just as we don’t crucify everybody who thinks he’s Jesus and crown everybody who thinks he’s Napoleon, we should not basically surgically butcher and hormonally alter people who think they belong to the opposite sex.</p>
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<p>Now, as for the homosexuality thing, I think it should be kept legal. But I do think that, if anything. But let’s just be honest here. Homosexuality isn’t a significant contributor to low birth rates.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you want to look at laws that contribute to low White fertility and change them, why not make divorce more difficult to get? Why not get rid of “<em>no fault divorce</em>”?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another thing that I absolutely support is strengthening the bonds of marriage by criminalizing the “<em>alienation of affections</em>”, they call it. Basically trying to seduce a married partner away from a marriage and a family. That used to be criminal in most states in America, I think it’s still criminal in nine states, but I doubt it’s ever enforced. We should criminalize adultery and alienation of affections and strengthen the marriage bond.</p>
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<p>Those are laws that I think would help increase White birth rates and secure White families, because let’s be very honest here, it’s selfish, straight people who are not having the kids, and they’re the vast majority.</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> All right. Gentlemen, I’m sorry to say that the time that I had set aside for this conversation, which we hadn’t specified.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> We hadn’t specified. Yes. My fault.</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Has pretty much expired. I can stay on for perhaps another five minutes, but may I be permitted to leave at the end of this five minutes?</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Absolutely, Jared. I still have some questions left. I’m going to read them just because the people have sent donations, sent money, and sent these questions. But before you leave, would you please, if you have any final remarks, any final comments that you want to sort of wrap up a bowtie around your position, and then please plug the upcoming Amren, whatever else information you can give us about that.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:38:54]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Well, I would like once again to express my great admiration for both of you.</p>
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<p>And I think both of you are wonderful comrades in this struggle. And it is one of the great pleasures and honors of being an open dissident that we can call each other friends and comrades. This is one of the enormous rewards that most people don’t realize is in store for the them if they tear off a fig leaf, come out of the closet and become an open advocate for our people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So thank you very much for having me on this program, and thank you very much, Greg Johnson, for agreeing to take part and writing the essay that you did based on my video.</p>
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<p>As far as the final question of how we are to regain control of our destiny. That will take many forms in different countries.</p>
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<p>And again, I am more optimistic about Europe. I think the United States, we will have to settle for less than the whole country. But that does not for one moment mean that we should give up! I can understand people thinking that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“My gosh, this is a black pill. I might as well go out and sun myself!”</span></h3>
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<p>No, not by any means!</p>
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<p>And although we are still an underground movement, so to speak, or on the web movement, our ideas are circulating and percolating and influencing people like never before.</p>
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<p>So despite the dark tone of that video that I gave that started this discussion, I’ve never been more optimistic. And that is the honest truth. As I say, wherever I go, I meet so many people. So many people! The world doesn’t know about them. The press doesn’t know about them. Only the SPLC, in its feverish imagination, imagines them. But all of these people working together, I believe, will create something. We cannot yet define its contours, but we will create something worthy of our ancestors. I am firmly convinced of that.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Thank you for that. Jared, do you want to give us any information about the upcoming Amren Conference?</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Well, yes, it is being advertised now on our website, Amren.com.</p>
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<p>And in addition to Martin Sellner, we are going to have a number of very exciting guests. One is a guest from Africa. I think that will be, his identity must be kept secret for the time being. We will also have Guido Tayeti. I believe you all know him. That will be the first time that we’ve ever had a CasaPound spokesman at the conference, of course, Sam Dixon, our regular closer. I will speak. Gregory Hood will speak. There’ll be a number of others. And we’re still working on getting more exciting people.</p>
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<p>But so I will engage in shameless promotion of our conference and invite all of you to go to the website and register while you can still get a room at the Montgomery Bell State Park so that you can stay on site throughout the entire conference. But I really must get off. And I beg your pardon if I am leaving earlier than I should have. And thank you so much for organizing this.</p>
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<p>And again, please accept my admiration, both of you, for all the wonderful work you’ve done for so many years.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:42:10]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Thank you so much, Jared. No, it’s entirely my fault. I didn’t specify a timeframe. We just got so many questions.</p>
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<p>So I’ll just stay on at least, and Greg can join me. But thank you so much, Jared.</p>
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<p><strong>Jared Taylor:</strong> Thank you so much!</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Thank you so much, Jared.</p>
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<p>All right, very good. So, Greg, do you want to stay with me? And, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Yeah. I’d love to.</p>
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<p>And, folks, if you have questions, send them, wrap a Superchat around them, and I’m happy to stay here and until they’re all answered.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> All right, very good.</p>
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<p>So let’s continue. My Row House sends another for $5, says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Republican Party is hopeless. To both guests as White interest party., &#8230;”</span></h3>
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<p>Okay, there’s a question. So:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Is the Republican Party hopeless to both guests as a White interest party going forward? What are your views on Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh?”</span></h3>
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<p>Okay, we’ll just sort of abbreviate this question a little bit, but let’s just comment on the Republican Party. Greg, what are your thoughts, just briefly, about the Republican Party as a White interest party, or a proxy for a White interest party, I guess.</p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Well, the Republican Party is a very sinister institution because, of course, they grift off of White interests. They take White votes for granted. They are playing patty cake with White concerns about demographic decline. And yet we see what their real interests are. Certainly since October 7, they’ve been falling all over one another, competing to be the most slavish enablers of Israel’s genocide in Gaza! They’re willing to shred the Constitution. They’re willing to go to any length to serve foreign interests. That’s just the scum that has risen to the top of the Republican Party. And it’s sad.</p>
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<p>Can the Republican Party change? Yes, it’s changing for the better. It’s becoming more nationalist and populist.</p>
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<p>However, as long as this idiot dogma that White Identity Politics is per se immoral, stays in place, the Republican Party will not be very effective vehicle for White interests. It can help us, but only by accident, only kicking and screaming. Only after they’ve exhausted all the possible options for pandering to other groups will they do anything that helps White people.</p>
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<p>We shouldn’t have any faith in them doing the right thing for the right reasons. Sometimes they do the right thing for the wrong reasons, though, and they can be more relied upon to do that than the Democrats.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:45:09]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But we need to thoroughly debug and delouse the Republican Party and the mind of the average Republican voter, if they’re going to end up being White advocates. That’s not impossible. It’s simply improbable. It’s a huge amount of work, but we’re chipping away and making progress.</p>
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<p>And when we see people like Matt Walsh and Charlie Kirk saying things that are friendly to White interests, that’s a sign that we are effective, I think, in chipping away this dogma. And eventually it will break down. Eventually people will be comfortable saying, not just saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“That’s anti-White!”</span></h3>
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<p>But:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“We need to do some favors for our White voters!”</span></h3>
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<p>Eventually that’s going to happen. How that happens is an interesting question. I think the most important thing that racially conscious White people could do is form a kind of White N AA CP or ADL, specifically a kind of lobbying or pressure group. But to do that, we need to have data and money. We need to have money to organize anything, and we need to have the data to know where we can concentrate our efforts. We need to know what states and what Congressional districts have enough race conscious White people who would be willing to vote on that one issue to the extent that they would be willing, they could be able to tank any Republican career.</p>
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<p>And that’s the only way that we can discipline the current crop of Republicans. Like dogs, we have to roll up a newspaper and swat them occasionally, because they’ll never do the right thing for the right reasons. Not yet, but eventually, I hope they will.</p>
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<p>So, yeah, we need to become an organized, deadly, politically deadly, you know, “<em>curtains for their careers</em>”, pressure group, just like the jewish lobby and the black lobby and the Hispanic lobby are. We’re not there yet, but it’s conceivable.</p>
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<p>And one of the things that the Homeland Institute has been doing is taking steps to do that kind of empirical research on our own, asking our own questions to gain an understanding of the White electorate, the minds of White America.</p>
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<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> All right, Greg, let me see. What are some of the other questions that have come in. Joao Scudo sends $3:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I don’t see a future for Whites as long as Christianity is our religion. We need an ideology and matching religion of ethnocentrism, biological realism, eugenics, and natural order. Cosmotheist church.”</span></h3>
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<p>I don’t know if that’s a realistic way forward either. And I don’t know for a fact that Whites have a Christianity as their religion anymore either.</p>
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<p>So that’s sort of a different topic almost. So let’s move on from that question. But thank you so much!</p>
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<p>Unknown Californian sends $10. He says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Would Jared be open to having Joel Davis visit him? I think Joel’s youthful exuberance may lift his spirit.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, Jared is not here anymore. K. Max McDonald sends $100:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“In Jared Taylor’s view, the biggest flaw was not saying why White civilization flourished while many others did not. The Left filled in with racism, slavery, and colonization. Instead, foreigners will explain White societies have law and order, social trust, and freedom to think outside the box. Jared and Greg, did we fail to explain why Whites flourished?”</span></h3>
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<p>Greg, do you want to comment on that?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:49:04]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I don’t think we failed to explain why Whites have flourished. I think that there have been a number of very important studies that have come out of our movement. I’m looking across my office here. I’m looking at some books by Richard Lynn, IQ and Global Inequality, Race Differences, Intelligence, The Global Bell Curve. I’m looking at Philippe Rushton’s Race, Evolution and Behavior.</p>
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<p>There’s a wonderful book by Michael Levin, Why Race Matters. All of these books bring to bear the human biological diversity argument for showing why White people flourish.</p>
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<p>Now, there are other cultural elements to that as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But one of the things that I learned, and I learned this while proofreading Richard Lynn, actually for the National Policy Institute, Washington Summit Publishers. When it was being run by Louis Andrews, The Global Bell Curve was a book that I worked on. And what’s remarkable about it is that Lynn understood that obviously you can’t reduce all social outcomes to IQ. But IQ is so powerfully predictive that you can act as if it’s the only factor! Which I thought was remarkable. So IQ is very, very powerful, but other cultural things are powerful as well. We have certain highly functional cultural traditions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I also think that the last book that Kevin MacDonald published on Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition has a lot that explains why White societies are highly functional.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think we’ve done a good job at getting to the biological underpinnings of White success. I think we can talk more about White traditions and how those have been highly advantageous as well. So we haven’t, we haven’t fallen down on that. We just need to get the word out more. It’s always just a matter of getting the word out to more and more people.</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Yeah, I think there are many, many books or many studies, many advanced, even academic books written about this topic of why White society flourished. I think Kevin MacDonald’s book Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition is a fantastic book in that regard, which explains a lot of the qualities in White society, European society, that makes it very different from other societies. And it’s not just IQ, it’s many different., &#8230; A human being is a very complex being, many different facets which make us into the beings that we are. And it’s not just IQ.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All right. Friedrich sends $50:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Greetings, a small token of appreciation. All the best.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, thank you so much for that. Very generous. Archie sends $10. Says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Reddit says East Indians are complaining that Canada is too expensive to live in, so some are returning to India. If the US dollar loses status as the world reserve currency, do you think the US will have tough enough times so that many polyglot immigrants will return home for the cost of living?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you think the economy tanking, Greg, will cause people to actually start reversing these migration trends that we’ve seen over the last few decades?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:52:40]</strong></span></p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Yes, I think that that would definitely happen. If there are no jobs to be found and if people who are already on the ground are needing unemployment and insurance and welfare and other programs, the incentives sucking people into the country are going to disappear.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, I think that an economic downturn would be helpful, just like Covid was helpful, frankly, in slowing down immigration.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Of course, it’s gone into complete insane overdrive since then. Anything that basically stresses the system, economically speaking, is actually good for slowing down the Great Replacement, and therefore let the bad times roll.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Right, right, yeah, no, I think so, too. I think that there’s sort of less of an incentive to move to Western countries when it becomes increasingly difficult to survive there because of an extremely high cost of living in all Western countries these days, to be honest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, next question. K. Max McDonald says $25. Again, another very generous thank you. Says: </p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: Black;">“If rich jews get affected, does policy change? Billionaire Israel supporters see a non-White America as not nearly as supportive of Israel. Can these types be persuaded to Jared Taylor or Greg Johnson’s view? Does the billionaire and millionaire class see these changes? Could you gain their sympathy over Israel from them?”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is something that I’ve been stressing ever since, especially since the war in Israel started in October, that the demographic change throughout the West, but especially in America, of course, will change American attitudes towards Israel. Because as White people are no longer a majority, then, you know, jews and Israel will lose their friends in America because the black people, Asians, Hispanics, people all over the place, they have no interest in giving any special favors to jews. And they’re not guilt tripped by anything that happened to jews in history either.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I definitely think that, yeah, these demographic changes will change how Western societies to look upon Israel. What do you think about that, Greg?</p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I completely agree. It might reduce some of the jewish headwinds against White identitarianism. And that’s a good thing. Again, we win by having more people on our side and fewer people fighting against us. We win by having more intensity and activism on our side and less intensity and activism on the other side. And splitting the jewish community over issues like this splits the main block that stands in the way of rectifying our problems. And therefore, that’s a good thing.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:55:43]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And this is why I think that Jared’s approach to this is a valid strategy. It’s valid to want to split the enemy camp. And it’s good, therefore, that Jared is somebody within the White identitarian sphere who’s open to working with jews, because that allows that split to become a real thing. If everyone were like me, that split wouldn’t be taking place.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I do think that does reduce some of the resistance against us. I think the aftermath of October 7 is an enormous opportunity for us. It’s because primarily jewish behavior is so heinous right now and so overwrought. And their domination of our political system is so obvious that this is very educational. But there is also the fact that some jews are reducing their emphasis on pushing for White displacement. And I think that’s helpful.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t think they’re ever going to obviously want to put White Identity and interests first. I wouldn’t expect them to do that. I couldn’t ask them to do that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I think that if they realize that by putting their own interests first, they need to lay off White people a bit, that helps us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s a good thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Absolutely! All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then we have another one from K Max McDonald, $5. It says: </p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“What is Jared Taylor or Greg Johnson’s black or non-White equivalent? Neither of you are an Al Sharpton, so you have a non-White equivalent. Would you like to be more what the ADL is for jews?”</h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. So I guess there are differences for advocates for different peoples. I mean, of course, jews have one structure, and I guess Mexicans have another and so on in America. Blacks, of course, have another. Al Sharpton being an example of that. I guess this wasn’t really much of a question, so I don’t think there’s much too much to say about it. You want to comment on that, Greg, at all?</p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> No, I think you’ve adequately commented on it.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> All right. 617 Squadrons Dog $5 says: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“Greg is being more optimistic than realistic here. Even if the things he says come to pass, then it won’t be in a continent wide USA. In that sense, he fundamentally agrees with what Jared is saying. He just thinks it’s bad optics. Could he clarify?”</h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, Greg, let me rephrase with the question. How about I put it like this? Are you saying what you’re saying because you think it’s useful or because you think it’s true?</p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I’m saying what I’m saying because I think it’s. Well, the question is, what is the status of truth when you’re talking about the future?</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Right?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:59:03]</strong></span></p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Right. We’re talking about future contingencies. We can say with absolute certainty that certain things about the future, namely that someday America will come to an end, because everything comes to an end. Can we say with equal certainty that America will never be a homeland for White people before it comes to an end? I can’t! I don’t think so. I think that’s at least possible.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So my view is this. I think it’s true that we don’t know. Okay. I think it’s true that we don’t know. I think that from a practical point of view, and this is not optics we’re talking about, it’s pragmatics. From a practical point of view, what we need to do to get any outcome that’s favorable for White people in North America is to make the same arguments and to organize to create ourselves into a community that’s formidable and that can throw its weight into social change and actually change the world. And to convince more people that we’re right and bring more people on board. To convince other people that they shouldn’t oppose us, even if they can’t get enthusiastic about us. No matter what the outcome is, whether it’s one White state in North America or two or many, we have to make all the same arguments and do all the same things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think that we should just move forward. And we should recognize, though, that we don’t know, but that all options are on the table.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, if there’s another pragmatic argument that I think needs to be made, and that is that you should always shoot for the best, because reality being what it is, you’re going to end up settling for less anyway because there are other forces in this world. So why not shoot for a restored White America? Knowing that you’re probably going to have to settle for something less, it certainly doesn’t make any sense to just say: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Well, well, we’re going to settle for half the continent.”</h3>
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<p>Because then somebody will say: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Well, why not settle for a quarter of it, right?”</h3>
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<p>I remember years ago, Tom Metzger responded to the idea that California be given to the Mexicans by saying: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“No, actually, we should seize Baja California and ethnically cleanse it of Mexicans and settle it with White people. It’s got beautiful beaches, lovely weather.”</h3>
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<p>That’s like: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Oh, yeah, I see the point.”</h3>
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<p>You know, he’s basically saying: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“This is what we’d like to do, but we’ll settle for just California in the end.”</h3>
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<p>Right? You got to raise the stakes. You raise your sights because, you know, that you’re going to always fall short. It’s just basic archery. If you want to hit the target, you aim a little bit above the bullseye because, you know, that gravity is going to bring your arrow down anyway.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think that’s the way to go about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:02:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Another thing that I do think verges on an optics argument simply has to do with what I said about openly disdaining or rejecting America’s history and symbolism and stuff like that it’s foolish to do that because most people are superficial and they’ll fight for superficial things, but they won’t fight over deep things. We want deep things anyway. We want to restore America to being a White nation. We don’t have to declare war on the flag or anything like that, because the people who would fight us over the flag, there are more of those than there are people who would fight us over changing the population. How do I know this? Because it’s already that way today.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There are White Americans who are fiercely patriotic and accepting the Great Replacement because they’re so intimidated by political correctness, I think, and hope that maybe it’ll work out. But that’s an optics argument.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the position I hold is that I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I’m fairly confident that White people will have a future in North America. And whatever the outcome, we need to do the same things in the here and now to get there, and we might as well aim big, because we know that we’ll end up accepting less.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I remember years ago I had a conversation with Sam Francis. We were talking about this issue of partitioning the country or taking it all back. And there was a discussion of partition that sort of assumed that there’d be a cabal of people in a dark room with, you know, smoking cigars and looking at a map and drawing lines. And I said to him: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“You know, if we had the power to partition the country that way, we’d have the power to keep it all for ourselves.”</h3>
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<p>And he just got this wry smile on his face, because that’s exactly how he thought. If we had the power to partition, we would have the power to take it all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, maybe we wouldn’t avail ourselves of that power because of our “<em>squeamishness</em>”, but it would be a matter of will, not possibility.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, other ways that secession could happen that wouldn’t require the power to keep everything would be a collapse scenario, or a separatist war or something like that. But the way that some people envision partitioning the country, they’re envisioning plenary power. And if you’ve got the amount of power you need to partition the country, you’ve got the amount of power you need to just keep it all for yourself.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Right. Yeah, sort of like when you go into negotiation, you always want to ask for more than you expect to end up getting. And because that’s the nature of negotiations. You want to start from a point of strength. Okay, let’s move on to the next question. Unknown Californian sends $10. Thank you so much! He says: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“I like what Greg said about reaching our youth. Do you support propaganda like Murdoch Murdoch and Mr Bond, who seemed to have great appeal with the youth and break taboos about race. I always loved seeing Jared in Murdoch videos. As well as Doctor William Luther Pierce, who wasn’t afraid to flex.”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:05:54]</strong></span></p>
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<p>I guess there is a sense of, &#8230; I mean, I’ve talked a lot about the sort of the Jerry Springer Right, and like all these kinds of jokey things, but there is a sense in which even vulgar exaggeration appeals to the youth. And there’s some element of that and that kind of things, like Murdoch. Murdoch, although that’s not nearly as bad, quote, unquote, “<em>bad</em>” as many other thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, there is a sense in which you have to sort of be pretty radical in breaking taboos when you want to appeal to the youth. Do you want to say anything about this, Greg?</p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Years ago. It was in 2000. 2001, actually, September of 2001, not long after the Twin Towers came down. I was in Paris with Gordon Baum, who was the president of the Council of Conservative Citizens. And we were talking, and I was there with a number of other people, but Gordon was there. And Gordon said to me, he said: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Greg, you gotta get it down where the chickens can get at it!”</h3>
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<p>I always <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> thought that was hilarious! Meaning the chickens are down on the ground. You got to get the message down to the chickens.</p>
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<p>And I agree with that. I agree with that.</p>
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<p>And that means that we have to have propaganda for all. All types of people. I’m not especially hip or cool or tuned into the vibes of the youth, so I’m leaving that to people who are more plugged in and competent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, yeah, we got to get it down where the chickens can get at it and everybody else who’s White. Every White constituency needs a channel, or a platform broadcasting, tailor made, bespoke, White Identity messaging to them. Even bronies, if those still exist.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> All right, Hinchfoot sends $20:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“Tip for the lovely stream.”</h3>
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<p>Thank you so much for that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then we have a bunch of questions that have come in with these one or 0.1 Odysee tokens, which I left for last. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Just if we have time, I’m just going to look through them, see if there’s any interesting one that we should read. Okay. Not really: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“What does Greg, Jared, and Frodi make of the Auslander Raus phenomenon in Germany? Is it likely for such sentiments to go viral in the US, too?”</h3>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I love it.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Yeah, it’s a fun meme, and it obviously works. You know, people find it encouraging: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“What does Greg and Jared think of the role of Israel will be in the relation to both the 2024 election and the American demographic destiny going forward?”</h3>
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<p>Do you think the sympathies for Israel will influence the 2024 election? I expect that Trump is going to be more pro-Israel than Biden.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:09:08]</strong></span></p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Oh, well, no, I think Trump’s foreign policy has now been bought by pro-Israel donors!</p>
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<p>I mean, that’s obvious. But I don’t expect Trump to make any progress in that area. I only expect him to slow down the invasion on the southern border.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Right.</p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> And that’s enough.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Right, right: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“On balance, does Greg, Jared, and Frodi feel Europe is more important than America to preserve as a White space?”</h3>
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<p>Well, more important than more important. It’s not really about importance, but I think it’s much more likely in Europe, because I find that it’s impossible. It’s impossible to get Americans to., &#8230; It’s almost impossible to get Americans to abandon their sort of somewhat libertarian axioms in their thinking with this extremely sort of individualist and capitalist thinking. And I don’t think that works. Europeans think more naturally, just as a nation. That’s why I’m more enthusiastic or more optimistic about Europe and of course, because the mass immigration started much later and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But generally speaking, there’s a difference in mentality, which I think makes it more difficult to deal with these issues in America. Do you want to, what are your thoughts on that, Greg?</p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I completely agree.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Okay. Yeah, I think those were all the questions. Let me see just one last time, if there’s anything else. I think we answered all the real Superchats and then we had a bunch of other, these Odysee Superchats, but I think we answered everything. And we’ve been going now for 2 hours and 10, 15 minutes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So let’s just wrap it up here. Greg, thank you so much for doing this. I really appreciated it. If you have any final words, any final comments you want to say, you feel free to do. So but I very much appreciated you doing this conversation with Jared.</p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Well, thank you for having me on. I very much enjoyed it. As for calling it a debate, well, I think that was a clever way of getting people to tune in.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> But <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> discussion is better.</p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p>The truth is, Jared and I don’t really disagree on a lot of things, as became clear in the course of this discussion. So who won the debate? Well, we all won! Because it’s a good. It’s just a good opportunity to have an important conversation like this. And I think we all win by doing that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we win by showing the world what clever, sensible people we are and how we have a vision that’s better than the, than the absolute slop and nihilism that’s being sold by the establishment.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:12:08]</strong></span></p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> So I think this was a really good conversation. And I always enjoy talking, talking to you. Always enjoy talking to Jared.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do I have any other things to say? No, not really. I would just say, follow Counter-Currents. Go to Counter-Currents.com. On Tuesday, we are celebrating our 14th anniversary of going online. We’ve been around for 20 years less than Jared. He’s been around 34 years. We’ve been around years. And I’m very excited about the next 14 years. So there’s so much to read at Counter-Currents. There’s new material every week, multiple things every day.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And of course, our own live streams.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, tune into Counter-Currents if you’re not already following it, and we’ll just see how we’re going to see, &#8230; It’s not a question of will we win, it’s a question of how we’re going to win! And I hope to live to see it. I’m feeling more and more optimistic that there’s going to be an end to the current system within my lifetime.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Shamboliks actually sent a final Superchat here, which I want to read. $25. Thank you so much! He says: </p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: Black;">“How closely is Europe watching the American experiment? If multiculturalism succeeds in America, they will follow suit. If it fails, they may heed a lesson. Thoughts? Question mark?”</h3>
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<p>Yes, Europe is watching America closely. I think that there was a period when America had a greater gravitational pull. If we talk about the culture of America had a greater gravitational pull where people wanted to be like America. I think that gravitational pull is now weaker because when America is known for things like the BLM riots and so on, that becomes weaker. That’s less of a role model.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think that Europeans are probably less and less imitating America.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But now the differences also are weakened because of the global world and the Metaverse and the online world. So we all sort of live in one society now to a greater extent than we ever did before, because we consume the exact same things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, we have probably a good split between Europeans and Americans in the audience to this very stream that we’re talking on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I do think that Europeans are watching what’s happening in America. And are they heeding the lesson? I don’t really know, but I do think that the American cultural hegemony is possibly getting a little bit weaker. What are your thoughts thoughts, Greg? I think you may be muted or gone.</p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> I basically agree with everything you said on that. I do think. Yeah. Oh, can you not hear me?</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Frodi Midjord:</strong> Yes, yes, yes.</p>
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<div style="color:brown; "><strong>Greg Johnson:</strong> Okay. I basically agree with everything you said. I do think America’s cultural hegemony is very powerful, but it’s political credibility is severely declining. You cannot say that the country that went through the BLM riots is a model that European countries really want to emulate. And in Eastern, Central Europe, places like Hungary and Poland, they look at this and they say: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“This is not a model that we want to follow and we want out.”</h3>
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<p>Of course, the Western European elites are thoroughly Americanized and thoroughly corrupt. They just need to be circulated out. They need to be overthrown and replaced with better people. I think that’s more likely to happen in Europe than it is in the United States.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:16:06]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="TT3-07"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> Odysee Comments</span></h3>
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<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Night all, 14 <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Myst0r<br />
BLM wasn&#8217;t promoted by <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> or <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1e8-1f1f3.png" alt="🇨🇳" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />, it&#8217;s leadership are mostly all <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2721.png" alt="✡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>2<br />
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Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Night all. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f634.png" alt="😴" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4a4.png" alt="💤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Archie<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Don&#8217;t make perfection the enemy of the good. 再见，拜拜 o7</p>
<p>2<br />
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3 hours ago<br />
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3 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
o/</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
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<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago<br />
see you all soon folks</p>
<p>1<br />
0<br />
ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Mods o/</p>
<p>Archie<br />
3 hours ago<br />
When Lauren Chen is 65 years-old then how will she compare to Rae Dawn Chong?</p>
<p>Mystor<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
incredulity is not an argument</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Thanks folks. Till next time.</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Great show. Top level guests.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
blmtifa are state sanctioned, notice they all but disappeared after biden</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Thank you again Greg!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@gaddiusmaximus<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44c.png" alt="👌" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Gaddius Maximus<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f91d-1f3fb.png" alt="🤝🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Myst0r<br />
the chicoms! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1e8-1f1f3.png" alt="🇨🇳" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@pathoftotality<br />
same</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@gaddiusmaximus<br />
Business as usual lol.</p>
<p>Archie<br />
3 hours ago<br />
The world is watching the multi-racial experiment. Most of my friends in China want to keep out savages. Don&#8217;t forget about the art display in Wuhan about the different kinds of animals.</p>
<p>Mystor<br />
3 hours ago<br />
BLM is a psyop by Kremlin &amp; Beijing</p>
<p>Gaddius Maximus<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Good job chat. Except for a couple of weirdos <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
So long folks. I enjoyed this time that we spent together.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Europe as murrica get plenty of dieversity every day now <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2620.png" alt="☠" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> children being sliced up by kweenz <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f98d.png" alt="🦍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4<br />
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<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Hail Victory! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f64b-1f3fc-200d-2642-fe0f.png" alt="🙋🏼‍♂️" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Amren and Countercurrents are both awesome. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Hail Victory</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/23f0.png" alt="⏰" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Tuesday, June 11th: The Counter-Currents 14th Anniversary Telethon<br />
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<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog<br />
can you post mine</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Thanks for the great discussion, Greg!</p>
<p>Archie<br />
3 hours ago<br />
I see the current trend is bad but I see that reversing demographics is possible just one policy and generation at a time.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
1&#x20e3;4&#x20e3;8&#x20e3;8&#x20e3;</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
3 hours ago<br />
14 <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
We all get a white wellbeing happy participation trophy. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3c6.png" alt="🏆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Shambolix<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Happy 14</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
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<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago<br />
its a win for us&#8230; ill take that.</p>
<p>Lord Wah-Wah<br />
3 hours ago<br />
It just seems inconclusive.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Have a great Sunday everyone! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f64b-1f3fc-200d-2642-fe0f.png" alt="🙋🏼‍♂️" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
ThX Fródi Greg Mister Charisma Taylor</p>
<p>Archie<br />
3 hours ago<br />
My stance hasn&#8217;t changed.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
I enjoyed this talk. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f64b-1f3fc-200d-2642-fe0f.png" alt="🙋🏼‍♂️" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Unknown Californian<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Have a great day, Greg!</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
great talk gentleman!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Shambolix<br />
Thanks for your generous donation.</p>
<p>@DienekesGhost<br />
3 hours ago<br />
this was great! thank you guys!</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
he’s allowed to pander to us</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
the committee of 300</p>
<p>Shambolix<br />
3 hours ago<br />
$25.00<br />
How closely is Europe watching the American experiment? If multiculturalism succeeds in America, they will follow suit. If it fails, they may heed a lesson. Thoughts?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4<br />
:hundred_points:</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Trump wanting to close the border is 14, but he’s not 88.</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Once they don the kippah and face that wall they’re done. But Trump’s still by far the best option my opinion.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
it’s theater <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3ad.png" alt="🎭" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Trump is an actor. obviously</p>
<p>Mystor<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Anti-American = anti-White</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Trump is completely bought now</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4<br />
agreed, if you are pro white you are all right</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
israel will be was real soon</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
So much censorship. Even on a pro white show. We are soooo forced to be gelded. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Angelo Plume on the new song Ausländer raus | Rebel Yell | Counter-Currents:<br />
https://tinyurl.com/sr42ym5</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Rodrigue</p>
<p>@Torwell<br />
3 hours ago<br />
^</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago<br />
we should support all those pushing on our side&#8230;</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
The youth likes Olivia . can they be saved? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
the swastika is too</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago<br />
bronies ?</p>
<p>@Torwell<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Murdoch Murdoch is ageing like fine wine</p>
<p>Mystor<br />
3 hours ago<br />
The motivation behind antiwhitism is to weaken America to the point where it can be annihilated in a nuclear war. Wishing to break up the US is wishing for your own demise.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
i do the same with me grandchildren <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44c-1f3fb.png" alt="👌🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Unknown Californian<br />
3 hours ago<br />
You&#8217;re cool, Greg!</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Tim Murdoch does great work. Antiracist H* (mustache man) is hilarious too.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
revenge!</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
I try to slip in White Identity into my nieces and nephews Avery chance I get. but I have to walk a fine line with them.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
White people won’t go extinct , but we will compromise our place in the world. I don’t want this.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago<br />
I think Greg did quite well in this debate and it ended up 50/50</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
i have&#8230;lol</p>
<p>Archie<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Shoot for the stars&#8230;. Greg has read &#8220;Art of the Deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4<br />
. Agreed.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
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<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago<br />
shoot for the moon even if you miss, you end up in the stars&#8230;.</p>
<p>Unknown Californian<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Tom is right!</p>
<p>Question for Mark<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@The<br />
woodlander Yes but even situations that seem impossible can be overcome. Many battles in history are illustrative of this.</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Most of the US is still woods and wilderness. We could build more towns and cities with entirely new and better forms of technology buttressed with a new racial consciousness and caring for our collective wellbeing.</p>
<p>Unknown Californian<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Mr. Bond and Murdoch Murdoch kick ass</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4<br />
maybe so</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Murdoch Murdoch is great.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
it could happen in our lifetime <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f91e-1f3fb.png" alt="🤞🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>The Broiler House<br />
3 hours ago<br />
GJ is a dull plodder and a promoter of the experimental gene manipulation technology serum.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy:<br />
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<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
witnessing the end of orcish lgbtq <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3f3-fe0f-200d-1f308.png" alt="🏳️‍🌈" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> power is what keeps me going</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Greg&#8217;s point here seems quite valid.</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
both sides have a valid point, but jarod is being realistic.</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Most whites just need moral validation to admit they care about their collective wellbeing. Let’s give them that and the words and narratives to defend that.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Yes, always shoot for the best!</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
If you give a mouse a cookie&#8230;</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
for he best</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
3 hours ago<br />
unknown unknowns, Greg&#8217;s going Rumsfeld on us</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4<br />
Good frame.</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago<br />
greg is talking possibilities, jared was talking probabilities</p>
<p>Question for Mark<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Sharpton was stabbed by a negus while walking in a parade black in the day.</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Rules:<br />
1. Have social skills<br />
2. No spamming, shitposting, or random links<br />
3. No fedposting<br />
4. No gossip &amp; drama<br />
5. No promoting other channels/groups (forwarding on-topic posts is fine)</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Js are NOT our allies and never will be. They can&#8217;t even admit that Leo Frank was guilty&#8230;and today I mean.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Al Sharpton? lol He’s an idiot! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog<br />
very very true</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
…because most nonwhites see J’s as white.</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
As Antiwhiteism becomes more dominated by nonwhite antiwhites, Js will more and more become victims of their own Antiwhiteism.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago<br />
for sure</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago<br />
theyre here for an easy life, leaching off our system, shut off the tap.</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
That was a very good question.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1ec.png" alt="🇬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Guide to Kulchur (Fróði Midjord):<br />
https://bio.link/guidetokulchur</p>
<p>@Torwell<br />
3 hours ago<br />
The border was wide open throughout</p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
3 hours ago<br />
End The FED!</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
J’s are dedicated to destroying any loyalty that isn’t to them.</p>
<p>@ScottishRose<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@CampsLindburgh<br />
they hate us &#8217;cause they ain&#8217;t us</p>
<p>@CampsLindburgh<br />
3 hours ago<br />
we&#8217;re better looking than the other races which causes them to seethe instead of innovating</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
^</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog<br />
Js steal</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Hail Bob Whitaker</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
For the most part: Whites create, yellows copy and stagnate, everyone else degenerates. —Bob Whitaker</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4da.png" alt="📚" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Dr Kevin MacDonald | Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition | Amazon:<br />
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<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
luvs you too <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2764-fe0f-200d-1fa79.png" alt="❤️‍🩹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4<br />
:ok_hand: Bravo. Keep on it!</p>
<p>Miss<br />
3 hours ago<br />
so would Jared keep the js în any newly established white land?</p>
<p>Hinchfoot<br />
3 hours ago<br />
love you all</p>
<p>Gaddius Maximus<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Salute</p>
<p>@Hinchfoot</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
try living in a blat run nation <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f623.png" alt="😣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Hinchfoot<br />
Thanks for your loyal and consistent support.</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
ive attracted 1 or 2 and im not a Christian</p>
<p>Hinchfoot<br />
3 hours ago<br />
$20.00<br />
tip for the lovely stream</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
3 hours ago<br />
We succeeded because it’s what we do. We are who and what we are.</p>
<p>Lord Wah-Wah<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Plus James Leo Herlihy…</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
it could happen <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f92d.png" alt="🤭" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@AutumnChicken<br />
3 hours ago<br />
the Js will never be our allies.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
White civilization flourished because of the White Race, not because of anything else. !</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
but if he keeps going he should reach our position in about another year lol</p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
3 hours ago<br />
We won&#8217;t attract many women by shunning Christianity.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
im not saying Tucker is perfect.,., lol</p>
<p>@ScottishRose<br />
3 hours ago<br />
until they start assassinations like in mexico</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
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<p>Roger Brooke Taney<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Gatekeeper Cucker Tardson said on a podcast his plan is to wait for someone who speaks up for White interests and tell that person to &#8220;f** off&#8221; because that&#8217;s a &#8220;Nazi idea&#8221; and &#8220;we have nothing in common just because we have the same skin tone&#8221;</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>Dusanko<br />
3 hours ago<br />
LOL</p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@horseconsoler<br />
:laughing_1: :laughing_1: :laughing_1: :laughing_1:</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Join the woodlander initiative too <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f333.png" alt="🌳" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Lord Wah-Wah<br />
3 hours ago<br />
This kind of planning seems anachronistic.</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
3 hours ago<br />
a strong white advocacy organisation, and build white communities&#8230;</p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
3 hours ago<br />
United Caucasoids of Anerica!</p>
<p>Horse Consoler<br />
3 hours ago<br />
national association for the advancement of peckerwoods</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Greg Johnson at Counter-Currents:<br />
https://linktr.ee/countercurrents</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheGoyimAreNoticing<br />
Thanks for donating.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Tucker has came a long way since covaids</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@RowHouse<br />
Yeah, he keeps going back and forth.</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Elon Musk to a lesser extent</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@thedesperatevoid<br />
and the molestation of children</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Tucker Carlson too</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 hours ago<br />
De-louse indeed <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
and</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
Thank you for the kind words. Greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>@thedesperatevoid<br />
3 hours ago<br />
I respect GJ but he certainly has a blindspot when it comes to the mechanics of heterosexual relationships and having children</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
3 hours ago<br />
what are the parallels between the Republican Party, and the ruling parties during the decline of Ancient Rome?</p>
<p>Lord Wah-Wah<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Not really much of a debate to analyze. Just underlining of established perspectives.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
seconded <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
And thank you for joining us.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@millennialwoes<br />
I think it would be great if you jumped on</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Jim Goad and Zman and Greg did that post the Jared Taylor E Michael Jones debate</p>
<p>Millennial Woes<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@RowHouse<br />
Ah&#8230;</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
3 hours ago<br />
luv’s ya Woesy <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2764-fe0f-200d-1fa79.png" alt="❤️‍🩹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Roger Brooke Taney<br />
3 hours ago<br />
US Republican Party is controlled by Judeo-Christians who obsess over the Israeli race but not the White race who make up 90% of their voter base.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
Cheers. My pleasure to serve. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
is a BEAST of a Moderator. Few, if any that are better.</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@millennialwoes<br />
more if there was a post show or post debate analysis</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
smol face</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago<br />
yes thanks to the Mods</p>
<p>Millennial Woes<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@RowHouse<br />
I don&#8217;t think that would be appropriate. No need for me.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Charlie Cuck</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours agoAUSLÄNDER RAUS</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@RowHouse<br />
seconded <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@millennialwoes<br />
can you hop on the call?</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours agoAUSLÄNDER RAUS!! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1e9-1f1ea.png" alt="🇩🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
4 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy:<br />
https://entropystream.live/gtk</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Amren! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f918-1f3fb.png" alt="🤘🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@AutumnChicken<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Ozarkia is the only answer for a white ethnostate</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Hopefully Greg can stay</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
I wanna go to the Amren conference</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Thank you again, Jared!</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Take care Jared!</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
some say it’s not the j^w, i say every single one</p>
<p>@Barnstormer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Ozarkia!! Do or Die! o/</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@HarryHoller<br />
1 hour 40 minutes ago</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Jared makes me proud to be hwhite. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
1.5 hour’s</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
4 hours ago<br />
we win</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Blankeon<br />
Valid point.</p>
<p>Lord Wah-Wah<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Optimism is cowardice.</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
how long ago did this debate begin?</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Casa pound that is interesting</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@HarryHoller<br />
hour and 45 mins</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog<br />
hwheres the hwhite hwhale? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f40b.png" alt="🐋" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
damn. 90 minutes is too long, Frodi</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheGoyimAreNoticing<br />
&#8220;Good termite&#8221; ROFLMAO!!! That&#8217;s rich!</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@ScottishRose<br />
I agree</p>
<p>Indo-European<br />
4 hours ago<br />
if you’re going to encourage marriage you need to discourage fornication, whether natural or unnatural, as was the case in White societies until recently.</p>
<p>Mystor<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Being pro-White must not become associated with anti-Americanism. Because the death of America would mean the death of Whites having a future.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago<br />
I thought this was a good debate. I like it when members of our community can disagree, and still get along. I wasn’t swayed either way. I’m still thinking about both points of view. I salute both Jared and Greg, and like them I dream of a White homeland too. I hope everyone has a great Sunday, and Hail Victory to us all! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f64b-1f3fc-200d-2642-fe0f.png" alt="🙋🏼‍♂️" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
he just doesn’t constantly say )3w</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheGoyimAreNoticing<br />
he did address that earlier, he acknowledged it but still subscribes to the meme of &#8220;not all, not all<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />&#8221;</p>
<p>Blankeon<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
True, but race mixing is objectively worse because you are adding to the ranks of the enemy.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
surely Jarrod knows</p>
<p>Horse Consoler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
l&#8217;amour toujours (jared taylor remix)</p>
<p>PiedmontFugitive<br />
4 hours ago<br />
One day there will be a statute of Jared Taylor.</p>
<p>Roger Brooke Taney<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Never settle for less.</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Secession</p>
<p>@ScottishRose<br />
4 hours ago<br />
LGBTQ should be illegal. how much poison is okay in your water supply?</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Mister Charisma Taylor <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44c-1f3fb.png" alt="👌🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Blankeon<br />
Both are forms of Race treason. One for mixing out our genes, the other for not propagating our genes.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Jared Taylor video | (Regarding end of America) What is Our Goal?<br />
https://tinyurl.com/bdd6e266<br />
Greg Johnson response to Jared Taylor video | Is America Doomed?<br />
https://tinyurl.com/57drv8de<br />
NEW video by Jared Taylor | Can the USA Again Be Our Home? Part I<br />
https://tinyurl.com/2arsddrf</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Thank you Jared Taylor</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Kameraden</p>
<p>Question for Mark<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Thank you Frodi, Jared &amp; Greg!!!</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
70 years</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Thank you, Jared for this great debate/conversation.</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
then general or Greg ones, do those later</p>
<p>Horse Consoler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
#freejaredtaylor</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
How long has this debate been going?</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
first</p>
<p>@Barnstormer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
what are the statistics of homosexual males adopting daughters?</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Jared, Stay!</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
ask the questions that are specifically for Jared</p>
<p>Gaddius Maximus<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Salute to Uncle Jared. A great warrior and living legend.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago<br />
love you Taylor, you can do as you please</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
4 hours ago<br />
No you may not. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago<br />
No Jared, you will not be dismissed. lol</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
10 more minutes</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Thanks Jared, you are great!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
4 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Jared Taylor at American Renaissance:<br />
Website:<br />
https://www.amren.com<br />
Telegram:<br />
https://t.me/AmRenOfficial<br />
Gab:<br />
https://gab.com/AmRenaissance<br />
Rumble:<br />
https://rumble.com/user/AmRen<br />
Odysee:</p>
<p>@AmericanRenaissance<br />
Substack:<br />
https://radiorenaissance.substack.com/</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Barnstormer<br />
I&#8217;ve heard it said he is, but have never heard him admit it. I like what someone else in the thread said, a &#8220;Back in the closet&#8221; program. Don&#8217;t go &#8220;looking&#8221; for it in private bedrooms, but prosecute it (and the promotion of it) if it comes to light publically.</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
yeah Jared stay 10</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
No Mister Taylor</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
BS. It&#8217;s poor straight white people who aren&#8217;t having children</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
read the 100 dollar entropy</p>
<p>Unknown Californian<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Don&#8217;t leave Jared!</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
$5.00<br />
The Republican Party is hopeless to both guests as White interest Party going forward? Your view on how Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk, and Matt Walsh have been talking lately?</p>
<p>Blankeon<br />
4 hours ago<br />
All these delusional Christians think homsexuality is worse than race mixing. That is the problem.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
“id rather be a women than take this anti White treatment” ~ weak ass thirsty mediocre “men”</p>
<p>Dusanko<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Make houses cheaper. People cannot make families if they live with their parents until their parents die.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@HarryHoller<br />
Agreed</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Sodomy was criminal too</p>
<p>Carney Corner<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Homosexuality is a huge contributor to child sexual abuse.</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
criminalize circumscision</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
4 hours ago<br />
No, it has to be illegal</p>
<p>Carney Corner<br />
4 hours ago<br />
White People Do Not Breed In Captivity.</p>
<p>Tom &#8211; tszymk77<br />
4 hours ago<br />
You may be permitted to leave, Jared.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
to 10</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@RowHouse<br />
Thanks again for donating.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
homosexual men are having many</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
5 more minutes</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
shoot</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago<br />
sassy greg <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
It&#8217;s a contributor to all manner of other dgeneracy</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Homosexuality needs to get back into the shadows</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede<br />
im tired, i read that as antisemitic drugs&#8230;<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago<br />
we can’t legalize homosexuality out of the world</p>
<p>Tom &#8211; tszymk77<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Fake homosexuality contributes to lower birth rates.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago<br />
political orphans, homeless in their own nations</p>
<p>Lord Wah-Wah<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Cough</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
We circumcize our son&#8217;s still</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Don&#8217;t you think these &#8220;mental health issues&#8221; are a symptom of the society we have?</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago<br />
that</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@JusticeTaney<br />
I have never heard of them</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
i expected hanging or firing squad but no they used the guillotine</p>
<p>Tom &#8211; tszymk77<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Stone quarries have a therapeutic effect on transvestites.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
make public hangings daily &amp; public like in the gud ole day’s</p>
<p>Roger Brooke Taney<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Only good thing the Soviets did was persecute Russian Orthodox Christians who engaged in barbaric chopping off breasts/genitals to become eunuchs for Jesus well into 20th century, so-called «скопцы» “skoptsy”</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
yeah i was surprised too</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago<br />
gender dysnlrphia is a mental illness</p>
<p>@Barnstormer<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Sonofaclown<br />
isn&#8217;t Greg Johnson a homosexual? serious question. i have heard that</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@sneediumminer<br />
fair, I just associate it with Jacobins</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Secession.</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
look it up</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
a particular german government</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
germany</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago<br />
these operations should be illegal for adults as well</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@sneediumminer<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1e9-1f1ea.png" alt="🇩🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> or <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1eb-1f1f7.png" alt="🇫🇷" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
it’s literally called a full spectrum dominance attack by the “elite”</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
capital punishment is a white tradition</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
4 hours ago<br />
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<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Blankeon<br />
agreed</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
if we arent willing to even posit the idea of capital punishment we&#8217;re just fucked</p>
<p>Blankeon<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Sex change operations go against the Hippocratic oath</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
they guillotines tens of thousands of people for crimes like that</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Losing license? They should be tried and sentenced to capital punishment</p>
<p>Carney Corner<br />
4 hours ago<br />
No homosexual has ever been a net positive for the movement.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
homosexuality is currently a fad, billions being spent on pushing it &amp; race mixing, literally every tv show commercials adds <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f922.png" alt="🤢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Reddog<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
Exactly.</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
the germans would use the guillotine on these exact doctors</p>
<p>History&amp;Truth<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Its just allowed to take place in White countries.</p>
<p>@Barnstormer<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> its crazy people are hoping for other solutions. it hard to realize that some will not make it out. US military officers are wondering if there will even be an election. they are begging millionaires for funding to fix this. lol. it is done folks</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
it should be illegal</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
i dont care if someone is old enough to consent</p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Lampshade_Denier<br />
Sad. She needs educating.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
4 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> This stream is also on DLive:<br />
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<p>Mystor<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4<br />
sounds like &#8220;surrender political decision-making centers to our enemies&#8221; movement</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Lampshade_Denier<br />
100%</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Sonofaclown<br />
absolutely</p>
<p>History&amp;Truth<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Its antiwhite, not anti &#8211; human.</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
4 hours ago<br />
I believe most homosexuality is mental illness brought on by either brainwashing or molestation. Very few are natural born, I think.</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@pathoftotality<br />
Exactly. She&#8217;s a phony.</p>
<p>Carney Corner<br />
4 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f928.png" alt="🤨" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Homosexuality is a preference. There should be a &#8220;Back in the Closet&#8221; program.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago<br />
End the inversion, ausländer raus <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1e9-1f1ea.png" alt="🇩🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Bullying has purpose that benefits society</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Megyn Kelly is so pathetic. she pretends to be based, but she’s far from</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
lmao</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
man i cant even use jared exact words?</p>
<p>Tom &#8211; tszymk77<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Propaganda creates fake homosexuals.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog<br />
yes because the need for economic growth is a major driver behind emigration</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
propaganda creates homosexual prevelabce too</p>
<p>WrathofArminius684<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Well said as usual Mr Taylor.</p>
<p>the woodlander<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede<br />
its already started with the &#8220;return to the land&#8221; movement</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
And Megyn Kelly is fine with mudsharks.</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
deaf people cant make the choice to stop being deaf</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Homos are queer because they were sexually abused</p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Makes men happy :smile_2:</p>
<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
4 hours ago<br />
please how is it possible to bear one tenth of a white child</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
4 hours ago<br />
All public displays of degeneracy should be illegal, we can start there.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
in public ?’ not anywhere</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
birthrate needs to bounce back</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
That’s a very important point.</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Yes 2.2 birthrate would be replacement at least</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago<br />
woman shut up and listen to me ! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Megyn Kelly is telling women to give more sex to men</p>
<p>Tom &#8211; tszymk77<br />
4 hours ago<br />
No promotion of homosexuality in public.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
well the gud women do, the rest are lost so f^vk ‘em</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
hahahahahah</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
4 hours ago<br />
usury is a major driver behind the need for continuous growth</p>
<p>A<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Iit’s “Lie back and think of England Jared”<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f609.png" alt="😉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Japan is trying hard to increase their birth rates</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
4 hours ago<br />
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<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Make <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f2.png" alt="🇺🇲" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> 90% white again</p>
<p>Reddog<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Securing the hearts and minds of our people and getting them to see themselves as a collective that they should care about and want to protect is the very first task. Everything else will follow.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
because they know better than yeet their familial lineage</p>
<p>@Barnstormer<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede<br />
this is why they should be moving to ozarkia while that is possible</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Recite the 14 Greg</p>
<p>A<br />
4 hours ago<br />
It’s ‘Lie back and think of England” Jared….</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
yeah plenty of White women fell for the propaganda, unfortunately, they will have to go live with their precious blat mens</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
Thanks for your support.</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
4 hours ago<br />
$14.88<br />
Hail Frodi, Hail Jared and Greg. Hail our Volk and Hail our Gods. What do each you think about RE-Criminalizing Sexual degeneracies like Homosexuality, Miscegenation, and Transgenderism as a means of boosting birth rates?</p>
<p>Dusanko<br />
4 hours ago<br />
We just need hot 80s bitches and birthrates will skyrocket.</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
unless you&#8217;re explicitly running a party</p>
<p>sneediumminer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
i have no idea why european political commentators wouldnt exclusively be anonymous</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Women&#8217;s Suffrage was the death knell in Western Civilization and a calculated move by our enemy, the Small Hats</p>
<p>@Barnstormer<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@HarryHoller<br />
yes.. and i realize why also. that is why action and not ideas should be the order of the day</p>
<p>Lord Wah-Wah<br />
4 hours ago<br />
So JT wants to save American through Sex Magick…</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
It could be changed, in a breakaway Republic, but never with 80m POC&#8217;s</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
I definitely would be fine with 1 more hour or 2</p>
<p>Lord Wah-Wah<br />
4 hours ago<br />
This sounds like an address to the National Council on Hand-Waving…</p>
<p>@CountryMouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
exactly</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago<br />
populations do ebb and flow. Greg’s right about that.</p>
<p>@Barnstormer<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Dusanko<br />
publicly shame any racetraitor you meet</p>
<p>@WingITprod<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Dusanko<br />
big hair and shoulder pads? Dunno.</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
They go to prison for being White.</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Secession is the only path forward</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Euro streamers get locked up for using words that are quite benign in the US.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@RowHouse<br />
I was hoping for another 3 hours</p>
<p>The Fourteen Words Podcast<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@millennialwoes<br />
Click my name Woes. peep my channel plz. Would love to chat with you on a Milleniyule someday perhaps. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Roger Brooke Taney<br />
4 hours ago<br />
The birthrate thing has always been cyclical. Like there were baby booms after large losses of population after wars or famines or plagues, then natural fall in birthrates, then rise again, etc.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
4 hours ago<br />
that’s why so many White girls say “we don’t need White men”, because they’re brainwashed</p>
<p>@Barnstormer<br />
4 hours ago<br />
we still are lacking the revolutionary spirit.</p>
<p>My Rowhouse<br />
4 hours ago<br />
1 hour 25 minutes in, so 30 more minutes maybe 35 I hope</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Barnstormer<br />
it&#8217;s censored by the host, not Odysee</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
4 hours ago<br />
homeschooling is a must</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Does Frodi recommend Svalbard as a white &#8220;hold-out&#8221;? My Rowhouse 4 hours ago hopefully both of these guys can go the full 2 hours</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago Maybe work part-time while your kids are in school. Or better yet, homeschool. @Barnstormer 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@HarryHoller yes, and conditions will only become worse ThinRedLine 4 hours ago good point about college, Greg Harry Holler 4 hours ago This.chat is censored AF Inkstone 4 hours ago Thanks, guys. Take care. sneediumminer 4 hours ago 120 million Harry Holler 4 hours ago because Js control the media.and we have 90m POC&#8217;s</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago @millennialwoes not so much i think. this should not be a debate, but an instruction to all white nationalists: get up and get with your brothers in the Arkansas/Missouri region before it is too late.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago @inkstone Most likely, yes sneediumminer 4 hours ago you dont have to convince women to do anything just like you dont have to convince nons to leave danzimmons 4 hours ago i believe so Inkstone 4 hours ago Time to cook dinner. Will this interview be up for free on the channel?</p>
<p>@WingITprod 4 hours ago good luck with convincing WOMEN to give anything up :laughing_1: :laughing_1: :laughing_1: :laughing_1:</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk</p>
<p>@CountryMouse 4 hours ago 100% sneediumminer 4 hours ago or brazil Millennial Woes 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4 Hi. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> sneediumminer 4 hours ago best case scenario for post bankruptcy USA is like argentina danzimmons 4 hours ago Woesy!! sneediumminer 4 hours ago too many nons</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago Not having to pay for daycare and babysitters offsets not having a job sometimes sneediumminer 4 hours ago when the USA goes bankrupt its not coming back</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@millennialwoes Evening mate <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Path of Totality 4 hours ago women should work in more feminine vocations Millennial Woes 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@gaddiusmaximus Hey. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Mystor 4 hours ago @sneediumminer The US is what keeps Europe from turning into a little Soviet Union Chulip 4 hours ago Yep, females should not be prosecutors for example</p>
<p>@WingITprod 4 hours ago No women in the INFANTRY sneediumminer 4 hours ago also some european countries have ICBMs My Awesome Channel 4 hours ago real ThinRedLine 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Letwrong 100 % Millennial Woes 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Dusanko But three great people on the screen! Lampshade Denier 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Barnstormer Not Western Europe. sneediumminer 4 hours ago if europe had the will they could rearm Path of Totality 4 hours ago agree with Greg 100% on this ThinRedLine 4 hours ago Hail woes</p>
<p>@Letwrong 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine It&#8217;s a small, rootless, international clique that&#8217;s turning the people against each other the woodlander 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@millennialwoes evening woes The Fourteen Words Podcast 4 hours ago Yeah great guests today. Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago Everything works better and problems are solved much more readily in this World of the Imagination. Roger Brooke Taney 4 hours ago US government going bankrupt would be a disaster now since most of Europe has disarmed their own armed forces since the Cold War Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago Hey woes <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44b.png" alt="👋" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Millennial Woes: https://linktr.ee/millennialwoes Jamesh808 4 hours ago @NASA <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Dusanko 4 hours ago I see a VILE person in the chat!</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago Less porn, more families</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago europe has the heritage we lack&#8230;but we have the guns. they have a problem Millennial Woes 4 hours ago A good debate! sneediumminer 4 hours ago it is gigantic ThinRedLine 4 hours ago America is the centre of antiWhiteism sneediumminer 4 hours ago dont discount the role US intelligence and finance plays in suppressing european nationalist movements danzimmons 4 hours ago Bolshevik sneediumminer 4 hours ago because then US meddling and the threat of US military intervention in european politics would go away</p>
<p>@TheLastBoyScout 4 hours ago does Jared Taylor think the death camp stuff (for lack of proper terms) from WW2, real? sneediumminer 4 hours ago the best thing that could ever happen to europe is the US government finally going bankrupt</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@jamesh80 I could be wrong, but yeah I believe specifically Nigerians at a rate of 800k a year Roger Brooke Taney 4 hours ago Yeah Bolshevik Revolution started by seizing power by coups in the big power center cities (e.g. Moscow, Petrograd Soviets), then Red Army was sent out to the countryside to establish Soviet rule everywhere. Jamesh808 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled specifically Nigerians? I thought it was just foreign workers that can speak fluent Japanese. I know there was an article on a Nigerian website. but the govt notice just said they needed foreign laborers not specifying nationality. sneediumminer 4 hours ago and thats how its always been sneediumminer 4 hours ago so once you put them back in chains they will learn to like it because that is just their nature</p>
<p>@ScottishRose 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> sneediumminer 4 hours ago women are very uhhh moldable though</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1ef-1f1f5.png" alt="🇯🇵" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> was always a poster state for the alt right Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago I’m strongly considering going to AmRen this year Path of Totality 4 hours ago autocorrect is worthless ThinRedLine 4 hours ago Remigration</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@ScottishRose atrocious donations I know, but given his missionary upbringing I was intrigued as to his thoughts on the matter.</p>
<p>@Letwrong 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@sneediumminer unfortunately true</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago how did Greg Johnsons survey turn out regarding ethnostates?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago F. Roger Devlin | The Specifics of Reconquest, Martin Sellner&#8217;s Remigration | Counter-Currents: https://tinyurl.com/43y5a3du sneediumminer 4 hours ago they will always just vote themselves shit sneediumminer 4 hours ago women are gendercentric like blacks are ethnocentric Path of Totality 4 hours ago sell Ed is a great guy danzimmons 4 hours ago ask the millions of Russian farmers who thought they could survive by abandoning the city’s, never mind because they were all killed sneediumminer 4 hours ago but the state subsidies stem from women having political power</p>
<p>@Letwrong 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@sneediumminer :rofl:</p>
<p>@ScottishRose 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled this is going to be devastating for Japan! Path of Totality 4 hours ago well Ed is a great guy sneediumminer 4 hours ago the state subsidising them doesnt help Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Remigration is the answer. sneediumminer 4 hours ago women naturally want to be whores and will dodge having children if they can</p>
<p>@WingITprod 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp But THEY control the purse. Very precarious.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben Yeah, I took care of it. Thanks for head&#8217;s up. sneediumminer 4 hours ago but again thats a question of &#8220;moral squeamishness&#8221;</p>
<p>@ScottishRose 4 hours ago pro White communities pro White voting locally and force at some point is going to be necessary Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago Salue to Illtakemystand</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> agree sneediumminer 4 hours ago raising the birth rate is as simple as revoking all womens rights Roger Brooke Taney 4 hours ago Don&#8217;t Jared &amp; Greg basically agree? Jared just says White Americans won&#8217;t use the same US flag/national identity anymore?</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago 0.01 What are Jared&#8217;s thoughts on <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1ef-1f1f5.png" alt="🇯🇵" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> (Japan), I heard the government is permitting 800k <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1f3-1f1ec.png" alt="🇳🇬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> (Nigeria) into the country &#8211; why I am not sure.. Jamesh808 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@danzimmons <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@RowHouse Thanks for your donation. My Rowhouse 4 hours ago $5.00 China through Mao greatly increased their birthrates, then decreased with 1 child policy. No such policy could work for Europeans? We are too free, and not prone to authoritarianism? sneediumminer 4 hours ago just look at housing prices up there danzimmons 4 hours ago relinquishing power even more is not an option imo sneediumminer 4 hours ago its pretty fucked tbqh sneediumminer 4 hours ago PNW has been flooded with illegals and white liberals fleeing the collapse of liberal states</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk sneediumminer 4 hours ago and who knows if or when that will happen</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago too late to save the state sneediumminer 4 hours ago because they are basically all predicated on a shitload of white people pointing rifles Lampshade Denier 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede I completely agree. That&#8217;s why AmRen hasn&#8217;t moved the needle in its 30 years. danzimmons 4 hours ago just homestead, like the Russian’s did <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f62c.png" alt="😬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> how’d that go Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago The worst anti-Whites are the self chosen &#8211; they drive the whole thing. The others are just opportunists.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 4 hours ago Yes, freedom of association is all we need.</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago AH didnt believe that either&#8230;.he lost&#8230;we lost sneediumminer 4 hours ago there are no &#8220;serious ideas that will work&#8221;</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4 true, see your point here The Fourteen Words Podcast 4 hours ago Damn I messed an hour already. History&amp;Truth 4 hours ago Obsessing about J -ws is not going to help our people gain a Wellbeing. Jamesh808 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@sneediumminer <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f611.png" alt="😑" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> yea the woodlander 4 hours ago jared talking my points here, disengage and form communities</p>
<p>@WingITprod 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@NASA Yes NASA&#8230; See what I did there? :smile_1: Reddog 4 hours ago The problem is with ANTIWHITE J’s. And other antiwhites as well. But the white antiwhites are the very worst because they are enablers and traitors. sneediumminer 4 hours ago and they continue to do so whenever they possibly can sneediumminer 4 hours ago upper class whites already sold the country out decades ago</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago Most people don&#8217;t listen. They have to feel the hurt personally until they change what they do and how they think.</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago pnw is goid but harsh weather and high dollar. Ozarkia has a better growing season and is far more affordable Jamesh808 4 hours ago natural ethnocentrism won’t keep them away ThinRedLine 4 hours ago Harikiri is great movie Jamesh808 4 hours ago non whites tend to still be drawn to white nations. they must be deterred and physically stopped sneediumminer 4 hours ago if white people never get up and point rifles nothing will ever change</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago censoring comments on history is an abomination White Community 4 hours ago correct, White antiWhites are the worst traitors, and should be shamed and humiliated relentlessly Lampshade Denier 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede Jared has stated that Whites are envious of Js accomplishments. Sooooooooooooo pathetic. sneediumminer 4 hours ago its always going to be a lower class white movement</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@NASA yes</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago White strike nationwide sneediumminer 4 hours ago israel utterly controls all government from top to bottom and i cant see their power being broken any time soon Mike7666 4 hours ago No they can’t , sorry Jered</p>
<p>@WingITprod 4 hours ago A gentleman &amp; a scholar. sneediumminer 4 hours ago anything that happens positively has to be grassroots danzimmons 4 hours ago lol Greg</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@sneediumminer so succession can only be grassroots . that requires proximity Lampshade Denier 4 hours ago Not every black is an enemy. What is your point Jared? Reddog 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian Yes! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4aa-1f3fb.png" alt="💪🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> the woodlander 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled he was, but it was a different time Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago The so called self chosen tribe. sneediumminer 4 hours ago the governors all have israels hand up their ass Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@pathoftotality 100% Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago Send in them superchats folks!</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@sneediumminer i don&#8217;t believe so&#8230;we can even get the governors to form a state constitutional convention Path of Totality 4 hours ago Operation Free Gibs in Liberia Reddog 4 hours ago I’m rooting hard for the Irish and what they’re going through right now! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2618.png" alt="☘" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago Bowden was firmly against secession and/or Balkanisation. the woodlander 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine trees squirrel and deer.. chickens, dogs, no ethnics though Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Operation Wakanda Bridge Horse Consoler 4 hours ago you&#8217;ve got to clear them out Dr. Martin Luther 4 hours ago Operation Bye Bye Mexicans.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago Uganda expelled it&#8217;s Asians back in the 70s sneediumminer 4 hours ago so secession is definitely a path to reconquering the US</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@ScottishRose the real life ideas are action. pick up and move. abandon what you think is important&#8230;ie. your historical home state. ignore state lines. look for strong white regions Unknown Californian 4 hours ago Operation Wet Back <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4aa.png" alt="💪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4aa.png" alt="💪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Operation Wetback sneediumminer 4 hours ago and then inspire the remaining white people to conquer the definitely dysfunctional nonwhite neighbors Reddog 4 hours ago We establish an exclusive foothold then slowly expand outward like a glorious amoeba. Just like we originally did. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> sneediumminer 4 hours ago I think its possible that ultranationalist parties will take power in a 99% white state</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4 you&#8217;ve got all the <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f414.png" alt="🐔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> ThinRedLine 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4 mostly trees sneediumminer 4 hours ago if an ethnonationalist state seceded from the USA Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago They would do ok &#8211; at their level (Brazilian style).</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago I say let Animal Farm burn while Whites rebuild in the country the woodlander 4 hours ago i lived in a multicultural area, now i live in the ethno woods ThinRedLine 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@NASA two different &#8220;countries&#8221; Roger Brooke Taney 4 hours ago Hungary is a tiny country with fewer than 10 million people. Other European countries even smaller (geographically and numerically). So a much smaller number of Africans would become a much more noticeable problem much faster.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago 0.01 To what extent do you think Rhodesia and South Africa is the future for <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f2.png" alt="🇺🇲" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> (America)? Reddog 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Evalation True. Look at Paris now. White Community 4 hours ago Is he talking about London? Germany? What is Greg talking about</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago I grew up in a mostly black ghetto in FL. I now live in a mostly White town in north GA. The differences are HUGE.</p>
<p>@Evalation 4 hours ago I would Argue the French are just as hopeless on the race issue as Americans.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled If only</p>
<p>@ScottishRose 4 hours ago this is a weak covo. we need real life ideas for oir survival</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 4 hours ago Well look at the UK. Apparently not fussy enough</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp you could round them up in an afternoon Dr. Martin Luther 4 hours ago More whites are awake now than ever before. Reddog 4 hours ago So once nonwhites turn our homelands to dust then what?</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 4 hours ago They let 500 in? ThinRedLine 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@JohnTheConfederate they don´t want the channel to be nuked</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago free speech is dead i know. hope is a great thief Lampshade Denier 4 hours ago 1 African is too much. Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Keep it down to 5 token negroes. 0KT0BER 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled lol</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede No in real life! With living actors. the woodlander 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Letwrong 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@horseconsoler I got you bro Horse Consoler 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Letwrong thank Marcel V. Reagan 4 hours ago Homosexuals are compromised on nearly every sociopolitical question</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4 thanks for your donation Dr. Martin Luther 4 hours ago As long as there are men like Jared and Greg, I have hope.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Jared Taylor at American Renaissance: Website: https://www.amren.com Telegram: https://t.me/AmRenOfficial Gab: https://gab.com/AmRenaissance Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/AmRen Odysee:</p>
<p>@AmericanRenaissance Substack: https://radiorenaissance.substack.com/</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede We&#8217;re long overdue for a major movie on GLR the woodlander 4 hours ago $10.00 thank you to both Jared and greg some great points raised by both. and thank you to frodi for organising the debate. on reflection, i think jarod has it.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 4 hours ago I&#8217;ve been very impressed with Jared&#8217;s points so far.</p>
<p>@dinocini 4 hours ago On a moral level decolonization never happened. It moved into another framework</p>
<p>@Letwrong 4 hours ago Free Horse Consoler :raised_fist: Mystor 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede What do you think the &#8220;temporary pier&#8221; to Gaza is for? Reddog 4 hours ago So infinity negroids minus whites is the future of planet earth I guess. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Dr. Martin Luther 4 hours ago Jared Taylor is one of the greatest living Americans.</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago decent men will do indecent things in order to survive</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk Roger Brooke Taney 4 hours ago Can&#8217;t let women&#8217;s squeamish feelings crying over brown babies dictate our future. White men need to take charge.</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago &#8220;I&#8217;d be willing to give up Harlem and Miami if it meant blacks would stop killing Whites.&#8221; &#8211; GLR Lampshade Denier 4 hours ago Kick out the squeamish people. Reddog 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Polaris True. Mystor 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede We need to recapture Jerusalem&#8230; Legally. Wilhem Ivorsson 4 hours ago I agree with Jared here. This is what is in play.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@WrathofArminius684 Thanks for your generous support. Question for Mark 4 hours ago But our ancestors were NOT morally squeamish! Reddog 4 hours ago Our empathy and sense of fairness is great when practiced intraracially but a weapon used against us when used interracially. Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago A major obstacle to more strenuous hypotheses 20 years ago was the greater mass of middle-tier expectations. The Unthinkable is now Undeniable. WrathofArminius684 4 hours ago $25.00 I generally agree with Jared Taylor. Gregory Hood’s Amren article To The Ronin of the West is well worth the read. Progetto Razzia 4 hours ago But the recent case of Pakistan which deported 500,000 thousand Afghans in less than a year is also an interesting case&#8230;</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago like an albatross around our neck Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago That&#8217;s why you can&#8217;t apply the same standards to other races, if you do you&#8217;re retarded.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/25b6.png" alt="▶" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> This channel depends on your support. If you want to help, you can send a donation here: https://gtkradio.com/donate Progetto Razzia 4 hours ago The Fiji Islands and their &#8220;Rabuka coup&#8221; of 1987: where Fiji, now a country with an Indian majority, in a few years returns to being a country with an indigenous majority because the new government deports all foreigners of Indian origin. ThinRedLine 4 hours ago FreeJared Taylor Mystor 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@GoyimStampede You can name Israelis Foundations of The 21st Century 4 hours ago We are all Banned, censored&#8230;for a generation, now. It has always been word of mouth.</p>
<p>@synchro505 4 hours ago Geez, is there no search engine (other than Yandex) that&#8217;s not corrupted? Horse Consoler 4 hours ago #freejaredtaylor</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog Thanks man! Of course the future is never guaranteed, but we have certainly not given up. the woodlander 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@0KT0BER evening mate</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@0KT0BER nah, that&#8217;s</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Progetto Razzia 4 hours ago regarding the idea of ​​returning to being an ethnically homogeneous country, I think it is interesting to know that there are at least a couple of examples, one of which is quite complete, which show that it can be done.</p>
<p>@ScottishRose 4 hours ago we absolutely need to take it back or it will be too dangerous for our children Horse Consoler 4 hours ago we never used to be Reddog 4 hours ago Thank God for our own information technology. Now information can go viral.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 4 hours ago Type &#8216;Ausrian Painter&#8217; into Google. They show you every Austrian painter except the one that matters. Foundations of The 21st Century 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@synchro505 Precisely. Path of Totality 4 hours ago I like James Woods</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago and he is shocked by this?? lol</p>
<p>@synchro505 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@FrankLDeSilva Especially among those who are professional grade.</p>
<p>@WingITprod 4 hours ago The actor James Woods has awaken to many of OUR problems. Jamesh808 4 hours ago many thanks to Marcus (the golden one) for exposing me to counter currents</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled :ok_hand: 0KT0BER 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled Hmmm thinking_emoji Reddog 4 hours ago I use Bing. Don’t know if that’s any better. 0KT0BER 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4 evening fella Roger Brooke Taney 4 hours ago Remember how hard White Rhodies fought for Rhodesia even when Whites were only ever a tiny 7% minority of the total population! Even South Africa was no more than 20% White as a developed first world nation in the 1980s (now less than 10%). Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Duck duck is kosher like google. 0KT0BER 4 hours ago DDG is Google Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Use Russian Yandex. Carney Corner 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago Cultivating practical skills and networking are infinitely more important than these sorts of “Robinson Crusoe fantasies” (as Marx termed something similar). Path of Totality 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@bob Agreed. Dr. Martin Luther 4 hours ago I like Greg&#8217;s optimism and Jared&#8217;s experience. Reddog 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer I certainly hope you’re right. God bless you all. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f64f-1f3fb.png" alt="🙏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@synchro505 4 hours ago Who is covering it up? :thinking:</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@synchro505 You&#8217;re welcome. Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Someone could be watching on a Commodore 64 and only has all caps. Path of Totality 4 hours ago shoot for the stars, and you might land on the moon! Dr. Martin Luther 4 hours ago Realizing that I grew up in a majority, normatively white area reminds me of how old I am and the passage of time.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Sonofaclown Please refrain from posting in ALL CAPS. Thanks. Reddog 4 hours ago Some get battered into resignation. Especially if they don’t have a lexicon of terms or a moral framework to resist with. Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago Normie Whisperers.</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 4 hours ago It&#8217;s not over for us White South Africans. I personally guarantee that.</p>
<p>@synchro505 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson Thank you. Foundations of The 21st Century 4 hours ago The Moral impasse&#8230;has ALREADY been reached. Now what?</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago Diversity at all costs and its consequences have been a disaster</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago Great question Path of Totality 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@NASA Yeah, it’s a problem.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Greg Johnson at Counter-Currents: https://linktr.ee/countercurrents Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago It&#8217;s never over. Jamesh808 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@pathoftotality <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago 0.01 When does Greg &amp; Jared think Western governments policy of &#8220;managed decline&#8221; becomes impossible and breaks down under its own weight of failure?</p>
<p>@synchro505 4 hours ago Why do the blacks speak with the same &#8220;blackcent&#8221; no matter what part of the country they are from? :thinking: Reddog 4 hours ago Reality is indeed often the best teacher. It surely was for me back in the 70’s and 80’s.</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago Black music used to be jazz or blues or Motown. Now it&#8217;s all about sex and killing Whitey. Path of Totality 4 hours ago rock n’ was king. Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago Hard R brand hard cider is long overdue. ThinRedLine 4 hours ago Alpha Jamesh808 4 hours ago there was variety Jamesh808 4 hours ago I can remember when music wasn’t totally taken over by rap</p>
<p>@WingITprod 4 hours ago controlling media is religion is key Path of Totality 4 hours ago I see angry black people evrywhere in my area. They’re scary! Wilhem Ivorsson 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@inkstone Jared sounds fine on my end.</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago and no hard R&#8217;s I assume Inkstone 4 hours ago Unfortunate audio quality from Jared. Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago Rules: 1. Have social skills &#8211; No insulting the host or guests 2. No spamming, shitposting, or random links 3. No fedposting 4. No gossip &amp; drama 5. No promoting other channels/groups (forwarding on-topic posts is fine) ThinRedLine 4 hours ago lol</p>
<p>@ScottishRose 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Polaris this part</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago can&#8217;t afford babies, cant afford house, cant afford land? better to sell everything and get to the most affordable white areas Jamesh808 4 hours ago zoomers will be culture shocked ThinRedLine 4 hours ago show them old film stribs</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago Each generation grows up feeling more entitled Question for Mark 4 hours ago Can Jared &amp; Greg talk about the possibility of reconquest, revolution, force, violence in reaching our goals? Roger Brooke Taney 4 hours ago Nonwhite immigration is the main problem, not birthrates. 90% White America of 1960 had 135 million Whites out of 150 million total population. 60% White America of 2020 had 200 million Whites out of 330 million total population. Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago No, it&#8217;s easier for them.</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago these are really quite far fetched theories by greg.</p>
<p>@synchro505 4 hours ago Why do they refuse to assimilate? :thinking: Reddog 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@sneediumminer True. And even that isn’t really legitimate according to our constitution.</p>
<p>@ScottishRose 4 hours ago i want all or nothing</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog plus they&#8217;ve been kicked out of parts of NYC by <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2721.png" alt="✡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@WingITprod 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog Mestizos have lost my old neighborhood to the Muslims.</p>
<p>@Carlota 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled Yes, some years ago, they didn&#8217;t get along at all:)))</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago you wouldn&#8217;t believe how many Texans are leaving to move to Arkansas Path of Totality 4 hours ago Han Chinese are the largest demographic group in the world Hywel7 4 hours ago this guy is a dreamer sneediumminer 4 hours ago until 1965 birthright citizenship was the only loophole by which foreign nonwhites could be citizens at all Reddog 4 hours ago Blacks have already lost Compton, Harlem, etc., to the Hispanics.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota Has he appeared on Dutton&#8217;s channel? I&#8217;d like to see that <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> A Day Without Yesterday 4 hours ago The Chinese are the most ethnocentric group on the planet. sneediumminer 4 hours ago a chinese immigrant was granted birthright citizenship by the supreme court in the 1880s Path of Totality 4 hours ago we once passed laws against int Chinese. they were getting a white high on opium! sneediumminer 4 hours ago the chinese are the reason nonwhites are able to have citizenship at all Reddog 4 hours ago The nonwhites who have always been here can be persuaded to support our efforts by pointing out that our loss of majority will make them collateral damage as well. the woodlander 4 hours ago whats possible and what is going to happen, is a whole other ball game.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago Defund the Magical Negro Society<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> History&amp;Truth 4 hours ago And how are you going to get that done without any positions of power nor an organised powerbase? Jamesh808 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago lol&#8230;240k+ debt per person&#8230;and you want to pay them to leave??</p>
<p>@WingITprod 4 hours ago Wakanda Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago Send in your questions, challenges and remarks folks!</p>
<p>@WingITprod 4 hours ago Ohhhhoooooo!!!!! Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago 1 Obviously we did not get to this situation through the application of peaceful reason. This kind of yarn-spinning about clean and clear outcomes is counterproductive. sneediumminer 4 hours ago almost all nonwhite sneediumminer 4 hours ago there are 120 plus million people here who got here after 1965 Roger Brooke Taney 4 hours ago African countries like Ghana have been offering special return package deals for African-Americans to return to the motherland to escape American &#8220;racism&#8221; for years now. Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Might as well go for 99%. ThinRedLine 4 hours ago paid repatriations Hywel7 4 hours ago i used to work in voluntary return . i had people screaming at me to go back</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago almost none of the new arrivals have great grandparents here</p>
<p>@BlackpillOverdose 4 hours ago The discussion is not what you can imagine &#8220;metaphysically&#8221; its whats actually possible and doable Reddog 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44d-1f3fb.png" alt="👍🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> ThinRedLine 4 hours ago criminals MrNoseburg 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson evening bro <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Jamesh808 4 hours ago hart cellar ThinRedLine 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@sneediumminer for sure White Community 4 hours ago White people need a White AIPAC and a White ADL, and to get money. In order to be competitive with the antiWhites. Unknown Californian 4 hours ago remember Operation Wet Back? Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Force every employer to use e-verify. Jamesh808 4 hours ago there would have to be sensible management of a black country because they would just come back sneediumminer 4 hours ago amish outnumber the natives</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago better get to moving before the populace realizes money is completely fake. sneediumminer 4 hours ago native americans are an absolutely tiny minority that is no threat to us</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@NotMrNoseburg Greetings <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago This is Delusional Scholasticism. ThinRedLine 4 hours ago Liberia Unknown Californian 4 hours ago they all have to leave</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota I&#8217;ve heard the same arguments from Claire Khaw, admittedly EMJ is at least coherent if not naïve and a tad mad <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Path of Totality 4 hours ago every Native American I’ve met has a huge problem with White people. They don’t like us. MrNoseburg 4 hours ago they can go to liberia</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago Their homeland is Africa. The problem is, Africans don&#8217;t like African-Americans.</p>
<p>@synchro505 4 hours ago They are a conquered people. They have been given enough. Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago I heard Liberia is a paradise &#8211; they can go there. Archie 4 hours ago Send a lot of propaganda into White nations saying that Africa has more economic opportunity and will be a super-power in the future.</p>
<p>@BlackpillOverdose 4 hours ago Send them to Israel</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago this is monopoly money. it does grow on trees now Reddog 4 hours ago We have to reverse the incentives. This can be done. No public assistance of any kind. Can’t attend our schools. Arrest employers that hire them.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 4 hours ago Well, America was built FOR White people. sneediumminer 4 hours ago clueless sneediumminer 4 hours ago &#8220;its not hundreds of millions yet&#8221; Bogl 4 hours ago We cant even convince whites to believe non whites shouldnt be here A Day Without Yesterday 4 hours ago I love Jared&#8217;s term &#8216;reservoir of manpower&#8217; e.g. Nigeria has an enormous reservoir of manpower. There is no reason why a tiny ethnic global minority like the Irish should be looking after Nigerians. Roger Brooke Taney 4 hours ago As that far-right hardline extremist Mitt Romney once said on a debate stage: you just need to create the conditions that will incentivize SELF-deportation, so migrants will walk out on their own. Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Money talks. Many would leave.</p>
<p>@Carlota 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled Well, he thinks they&#8217;d do great with strict Catholic morality and no usury. Very naive and not conscious of avg IQ. but he&#8217;s absolutely against migration from non-whites to Europe. Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Jews_Genociding_Gentiles good point man Archie 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@WilhemIvorsson I common idea is that a lousy economy is needed to 1) get White people to get strong and 2) the Welfare tit that immigrants come for to end.</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago political will?? unanimous vote for israel&#8230;and they refuse to close the border. this government is absolutely not our government</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1ec.png" alt="🇬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Guide to Kulchur (Fróði Midjord): https://bio.link/guidetokulchur Jamesh808 4 hours ago break the silly taboos about restrictive immigration policy and closing borders</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago or lack of incentives to stay Wilhem Ivorsson 4 hours ago The problem is that now these people are fully integrated into the political and economic apparatus. They can actively thwart all the processes by which we could reverse this trajectory.</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago stop asking&#8230;.sounds like begging ThinRedLine 4 hours ago the invaders come for economic reasons Wooden Doors &amp; Electric Floors 4 hours ago will they upload a replay of this stream?</p>
<p>@BlackpillOverdose 4 hours ago All incentives are in the wrong direction&#8230; fantasy</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago see The Grapes Of Wrath</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago the irish seem to be the most active whites acting in their own interest. how many in this chat are literally taking action? the time is now. Reddog 4 hours ago Eliminate ALL artificial incentives to bring them and keep them here for starters. Jamesh808 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@pathoftotality <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> sneediumminer 4 hours ago doesnt he have better things to do</p>
<p>@thedesperatevoid 4 hours ago I don&#8217;t think immigrant families that are 2-3 generations deep and have businesses here and grandchildren with comfortable lives (and possibly economic and/or political power) are going to pack up and leave voluntarily. It will take an iron will from whites to make them Foundations of The 21st Century 4 hours ago Has either JT or J ever talked to a politician say, in the Northwest, about moving this plan forward? White Community 4 hours ago Greg is omitting the power of money. Morality is only party of the equation, money drives a huge proportion of behavior and political will.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago The economic incentive to leave just isn&#8217;t there Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago Tertiary Hegelianism Will Not Be Televised. Archie 4 hours ago I was a guilty of being an &#8220;Anywhere&#8221; person descried by David Goodhart, though it was due to anti-Whiteness in Canada.</p>
<p>@synchro505 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@FrankLDeSilva So true. Theoracia 4 hours ago Scandinavia already reversed the public opinion on remigration Foundations of The 21st Century 4 hours ago This is the same mantra&#8230;for the past 20yrs. Path of Totality 4 hours ago will is powerful when focused in th eright direction Archie 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@0KT0BER There was sentiment in India and Africa in wanting their &#8220;independence.&#8221; I imagine that there was more celebration than mourning in India and Africa when the Whites left. That it was time for them to &#8220;stand on their own&#8221; more likely was the Whites saying that to save face Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago Man… et tu Piedmont? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 4 hours ago Tribe and train. Reddog 4 hours ago If our 90+% majority wasn’t permanently “baked in the cake”. neither is anything else.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota Perhaps I&#8217;m wrong, I always thought EMJ was weak on <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f31a.png" alt="🌚" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> just as Jared is with <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2721.png" alt="✡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Jamesh808 4 hours ago liberal dishonesty and emotional appeals A Day Without Yesterday 4 hours ago Most of those groups already holiday in their ancestral homelands. PiedmontFugitive 4 hours ago It&#8217;s is over, but something else has definitely started.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 4 hours ago Greg Johnson | Restoring White Homelands: https://tinyurl.com/mrn7j292</p>
<p>@synchro505 4 hours ago 3 Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Make a million incentives for them to leave &#8211; that&#8217;s how the enemy works. Bogl 4 hours ago Whites have neither the stomach nor the spine to ensure their own existence. they&#8217;d rather believe in the supernatural, pretend its all going to be alright, and slowly watch their bloodline and legacy disintegrate PiedmontFugitive 4 hours ago 1</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4 Evening Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago 2 Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago 1’s in the chat for team It’s Over &#8211; 2’s for team We’re So Back &#8211; 3’s for team Nothing Ever Happens Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago Moral Suasion is not the prevailing dynamic. Mystor 4 hours ago make jobs outside the US (e.g. Mexico), they will follow the jobs Jamesh808 4 hours ago yea of course</p>
<p>@Carlota 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled Not really, he&#8217;s totally against migration from non-whites to Ireland and Poland. I&#8217;m very familiar with EMJ. He hopes they&#8217;ll do great in Africa, naive but well-intended</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 4 hours ago when whites conquered this country, we were far more united than now. and our ideas didn&#8217;t just remain as debate and theory, but took shape through deeds and action Roger Brooke Taney 4 hours ago Isn&#8217;t this splitting hairs? Obviously United States regime in current form is under control of antiwhite hostile alien elite. If Whites take back control, does it matter whether they call themselves USA or not? Constantinople kept a Roman identity in new form many years after fall of Classical Rome. Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled Whatever gets the job done. Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago A revolution is not Debate Club, to paraphrase Chairman Mao. the woodlander 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer evening mate</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago make <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1f2-1f1fd.png" alt="🇲🇽" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> pay for it</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson Essentially, yes. And they are very close to the de facto leaders of the Afrikaner community, Afriforum and Solidariteit, who have explicitly rejected White nationalism, are relatively philosemitic if anything.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@tszymk77 pay them nothing Archie 4 hours ago This discussion really should be flying out on Twitter! 0KT0BER 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker that isn&#8217;t so about India, the British decided it was time for India to stand on its own feet Path of Totality 4 hours ago hahahah Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago</p>
<p>@jamesh80 yup Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Bribe African leaders to take in blacks. Blankeon 4 hours ago Reversing White genocide only requires the political will to do so by our leaders. It only seems impossible because all our current leaders are anti-White scum. Lord Wah-Wah 4 hours ago This is pure imagination. Miss 4 hours ago it was actually 93% white</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 4 hours ago 0.1 On balance, does Greg, Jared and Frodi feel Europe is more important than America to preserve as a white space?</p>
<p>@NASA 4 hours ago I see the big cities falling and Whites rebuilding in the country Gaddius Maximus 4 hours ago https://counter-currents.com/2020/11/uppity-white-folks-manifesto-part-1/ Tom &#8211; tszymk77 4 hours ago Pay people to leave. A lot will take it up. Path of Totality 4 hours ago reversing entropy is difficult Based and Rempilled 4 hours ago white*</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4da.png" alt="📚" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Books by Greg Johnson: The White Nationalist Manifesto https://tinyurl.com/mru22bre White Identity Politics https://tinyurl.com/3d774s8r Based and Rempilled 5 hours ago white erasure is a better term than hire genocide Archie 5 hours ago Algeria reversed French invaders! India and Africa kicked out the White colonizers.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 5 hours ago I admire Greg&#8217;s optimisim, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possible as our &#8216;leaders&#8217; have sold us out. Based and Rempilled 5 hours ago real Reddog 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian Schoolofthewest.world is a great place to start. Check it out. Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago I’m an uppity White <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44c-1f3fb.png" alt="👌🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Barnstormer 5 hours ago lol&#8230;no way</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota I&#8217;ve heard Jones say it too, so long as they claimed some variation of Catholicism.</p>
<p>@NASA 5 hours ago Most invaders are lvl 1 zombies. They can&#8217;t last long without welfare.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk</p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago ((politcal policy)) My Rowhouse 5 hours ago why did it happen yes</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 5 hours ago it&#8217;s over if ideas cannot take the form of action Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago well, these are reasonable concerns</p>
<p>@Carlota 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled That was Dugin Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer yes, so they propagate these foolish ideas, or pay lip-service to them, everything short of open racial self-preservation, and they abandoned south africa before it had fallen, not the noblest path A Day Without Yesterday 5 hours ago Any chance of Jared getting back on Twitter? Or TikTok even? Though I don&#8217;t use it myself. Horse Consoler 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@pathoftotality we&#8217;re back Path of Totality 5 hours ago we’re so back! Tom &#8211; tszymk77 5 hours ago Nothing is over until the fat lady sings.</p>
<p>@NASA 5 hours ago Nothing is over! NOTHING! Path of Totality 5 hours ago it’s over! Blankeon 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@tszymk77 True. Blacks make up the majority of the worlds Christians.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago E Michael Jones &#8220;Let&#8217;s make the <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f31a.png" alt="🌚" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> become <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1f5-1f1f1.png" alt="🇵🇱" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />&#8221;</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson Now it would be a lot more difficult to criticize them if they were more explicit about their nationalism and the racial dimension to it that is obviously the elephant in the room. They would probably argue that this would put them at risk of being destroyed, and I don&#8217;t disagree Tom &#8211; tszymk77 5 hours ago 93% of Haiti is Christian :-).</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 5 hours ago america will balkanize. sooner rather than later. the areas that are predominantly white will be the best place to relocate to, but if that area is leftist, how long will it last? ThinRedLine 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@WhiteCapability that is true it is not numbers alone Path of Totality 5 hours ago CPAC has well-meaning, but hey are deluded Unknown Californian 5 hours ago Propaganda aimed at White youth is our only hope. We have to focus on the young. They&#8217;re the future. We need more propaganda like Murdoch Murdoch White Capability 5 hours ago Every White is worth a dozen (or more) of non-Whites though &#8211; we simply have more sense and capabilities on average. When we do take our own side we&#8217;ll succeed, and we&#8217;re waking up. Dr. Martin Luther 5 hours ago Greg and Jared should be the leaders of America.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f399.png" alt="🎙" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />Join us LIVE — WEDNESDAYS, GTK Radio&#8217;s KULCHUR LODGE RADIO featuring special guests and AMAs: 12 noon LA / 3 p.m. NY / 20:00 London / 21:00 Stockholm Path of Totality 5 hours ago the fact that Whites consider themselves evil colonizers is a testament about how powerful the brainwashing actually is ThinRedLine 5 hours ago evry year Reddog 5 hours ago Eliminate the incentives financially and otherwise for nonwhites to come and stay here. Incentivize the remigration out process instead. Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago and an ethnostate, of whatever origin, can&#8217;t achieve this ? ThinRedLine 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4 true, but how many million people go on holyday by plane every , physically it is possible</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson I don&#8217;t like a lot of conservative, non-racialist rhetoric and the fact that they sometimes insist they have more in common with coloureds in SA than with English Whites. There are many good people who live there with their hearts in the right place but I see it as a sideshow Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago and the israelis won&#8217;t flip their magic switch before we have patched the vulnerabilities ? you know, north korea has its own operating system, various gadgets produced domestically Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago uh 40 million just for starters</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@JohnTheConfederate I really hope <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f2.png" alt="🇺🇲" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> doesn&#8217;t replicate <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1ff-1f1e6.png" alt="🇿🇦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Bogl 5 hours ago We can&#8217;t succeed in anything with christianity dragging us down. Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Myst0r right, and we can resist this by &#8230; capturing america, with its institutions, and economic and technical power My Rowhouse 5 hours ago Is it too little too late? Roger Brooke Taney 5 hours ago Also if Whites try to hide out in one region&#8230;after nonwhites reduce the rest of the country to Mexico/Haiti, guess where they&#8217;ll be knocking next. the woodlander 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson 100 million is a very very large number of people Mystor 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson Israel has hard power as well, namely having backdoors into operating systems, chips and industrial controllers. They might be capable of shutting down a country&#8217;s critical infrastructure with the flick of a switch. For White Wellbeing 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@gaddiusmaximus Thank you Brother! For your service.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago 0.1 What does Greg &amp; Jared think the role of <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1ee-1f1f1.png" alt="🇮🇱" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> (Israel) will be in relation to both the 2024 election and <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f2.png" alt="🇺🇲" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> (America) demographic destiny going forward?</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson Essentially, the founders made a decision way before Apartheid fell that their little town was the way to go, rather than putting all their resources into keeping the entire country for Whites. I think that was a defeatist attitude and am skeptical of the founders&#8217; intentions.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Help this channel by hitting the <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> icon for a like! My Rowhouse 5 hours ago If 90 percent of White Americans agreed, man the woodlander 5 hours ago half for those who want a whites only homeland, and half for those who dont. Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago they CAME here in the first place &#8211; is it impossible to transport large numbers of people ? Green Party 5 hours ago Red state succession would certainly help. The resulting &#8220;red state&#8221; could be 90% white and allow freedom of association. Path of Totality 5 hours ago we’re too far gone in the Kali Yuga Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago it is certainly physically and economically possible Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago We’re getting it ALL back uncle Jared. Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4 maybe not politically possible, it depends on how the situation develops Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago Ask Jared where he thinks Js will go. Because I sure as heck don&#8217;t want them with Whites. Jared can live with the Js. Reddog 5 hours ago If our 90% + majority wasn’t “baked in the cake” then neither is anything else. For White Wellbeing 5 hours ago Not antiwhiteness. It&#8217;s antiwhitism. The antiwhite ideology. A sickness and terror on our people. A psychological war against Westernkind. Roger Brooke Taney 5 hours ago Fight for it all, then settle for what you get. Don&#8217;t pre-emptively surrender entire regions. the woodlander 5 hours ago the numbers are not in americas favour.. difficult to remove 100 million Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago Rules: 1. Have social skills &#8211; No insulting the host or guests 2. No spamming, shitposting, or random links 3. No fedposting 4. No gossip &amp; drama 5. No promoting other channels/groups (forwarding on-topic posts is fine) Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago yes, their culture, which excludes half of white south africans, and their variety of rabbi yeshua&#8217;s doctrine</p>
<p>@dinocini 5 hours ago Got the impression that many minorities will support repartition of illegals too.</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago *not any non-Whites</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago 0.01 What does Greg, Jared &amp; Frodi make of the ausländer raus phenomenon in <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1e9-1f1ea.png" alt="🇩🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> is it likely for such sentiments to go viral in <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f2.png" alt="🇺🇲" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> too? WrathofArminius684 5 hours ago Politics matter but what we need is a cultural revolution.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Jared Taylor at American Renaissance: Website: https://www.amren.com Telegram: https://t.me/AmRenOfficial Gab: https://gab.com/AmRenaissance Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/AmRen Odysee:</p>
<p>@AmericanRenaissance Substack: https://radiorenaissance.substack.com/</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 5 hours ago we are starting a new nation in Ozarkia. TexasVet nicknamed it Aryan Afghanistan. very apropos Foundations of The 21st Century 5 hours ago To Lead&#8230;one must see oneself AS part of the leading power structure. Populating this structure is a real life effort. Unknown Californian 5 hours ago I hope Mark Collette is tuned in</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 5 hours ago Liberal conservatives won&#8217;t wake up until the bread and circuses end.</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago I agree there are not any Whites in Orania that I know of. But they have given mixed messaging as to whether or not a Coloured person, for e.g. can theoretically live there Roger Brooke Taney 5 hours ago There are some nonwhites in Orania. Even official census data counts show it. And leaders of Orania are adamant they are not racialist, just care about Afrikaans language/culture. Path of Totality 5 hours ago white liberal girls are the worst they are the villains <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f621.png" alt="😡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Michael57DE 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@JohnTheConfederate Orania is but a very, very small portion of an entire but comparitively small Country of South Africa. This debate is about a continent sized nation. Question for Mark 5 hours ago Even if all Whites get on board with White Identity Politics, can we get a White homeland in US without using force or fomenting revolution? Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer i see, i see, you are a suuth efrican, i will listen with interest if you should care to expound on the topic</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Anonymous Thanks again for donating. Unknown Californian 5 hours ago Liberals are traitors Green Party 5 hours ago $5.00 How would Mr. Taylor alter his strategy/message if he could go back in time to 1990 and start American Renaissance all over again? Path of Totality 5 hours ago we need to wake up the liberals Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago Lmao</p>
<p>@PotatoMutt nice</p>
<p>@ Tom &#8211; tszymk77 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@aleluyeah Hello good Sir!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@PotatoMutt Thanks for donating.</p>
<p>@aleluyeah 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@tszymk77 Hello Sir</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson I respect a lot of what they do. I live in South Africa btw. But I have many criticisms too. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s THE solution for many reasons. Archie 5 hours ago :zipper_mouth_face: I&#8217;m all ears. PotatoMutt 5 hours ago $2.00 We’ve seen Greg on Decameron before, but never Uncle Jared. Is there any chance we could see him this year (assuming Frodi has plans for Decameron this year)? Tom &#8211; tszymk77 5 hours ago We need Orania on a grand scale. 100 million men and women White Orania. Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago We love Sam though</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 5 hours ago just curious who is running it. also, i know greg Johnson ran a survey recently. i wanted to know the results of questions 90- 95 . Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago He’s been hanging around with Sam Dickson too much lmao Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago they can hardly bear to fight their own wars, to defend the land which they say is so dear to them Reddog 5 hours ago Jared seemed hopeful for a little while. Unknown Californian 5 hours ago Harder to be optimistic when you&#8217;re older ThinRedLine 5 hours ago R E C O N Q U I S T A Foundations of The 21st Century 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@JohnTheConfederate Correct. My Rowhouse 5 hours ago Biden&#8217;s Presidency Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago israeli power is soft power, power exercised through lobbyists and their friends in the state security services Roger Brooke Taney 5 hours ago Yeah there are a handful of nonwhites in Orania even, it&#8217;s Afrikaans language/Calvinist religion community. There were even some votes from Orania for Julius Malema/EFF (Mr “Kill the Boer”)! Unknown Californian 5 hours ago Age changed his mind Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Myst0r absurd, they can&#8217;t subdue gaza</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 5 hours ago Greg seems to be saying we can save it in it&#8217;s current state, but then we have to partition it &#8211; which is it? Foundations of The 21st Century 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian Precisely. Which is WHY we will never give it up&#8230;or simply declare a Reconquista. PiedmontFugitive 5 hours ago We are on the threshhold of a new era, one way or another. Mystor 5 hours ago Breaking up the US would mean surrendering the control of world events to non-white powers, notably Israel. Whites in the US and elsewhere would subsequently be at those powers&#8217; mercy. Your &#8220;gains in self-rule&#8221; would be short-lived. ThinRedLine 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian a true paradise, but Reagan destroyed it Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer they do what they can, they&#8217;re subjects of black supremacist tyranny Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f985.png" alt="🦅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> egle Reddog 5 hours ago I can’t give up. I’ll go down swinging. Unknown Californian 5 hours ago California would be the perfect ethnostate. Naval ports and great agriculture Path of Totality 5 hours ago entropy is reversable Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago I’m in Greg’s way <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago Orania is not explicitly Whites only, for what it&#8217;s worth. Not hating on them but people often mislabel them. They don&#8217;t let in non-Afrikaners (not saying they necessarily should) and theoretically a non-White can get in as long as he is part of the culture. But they have mixed messaging on this. ThinRedLine 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@synchro505 yes, today I think with European election we have taken a small step in that direction My Rowhouse 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@JimGoad Hello Jim, do you think Jared is more correct here, or Greg is?</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago send them all back to Africa <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f6a2.png" alt="🚢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Reddog 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@JimGoad Heyo! Dusanko 5 hours ago biggest issue is the average age of whites which is almost 50 History&amp;Truth 5 hours ago This future analysis is rather misscalculated, I think. Even if you can&#8217;t really compare the United States with Europe, Dan Eriksson has had the most reasonable futuristic view that awaits us and how we should think and organise.</p>
<p>@JimGoad 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog Heyo!</p>
<p>@edmonddusa 5 hours ago transvaluation of all values is possible and our young people are waiting for this process to begin.</p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine Do you think it&#8217;s possible that they could be repealed someday? Horse Consoler 5 hours ago free ma n-word jared taylor (from twitter)</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@JusticeTaney <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />% ThinRedLine 5 hours ago hate speech laws in Europe are very strict My Rowhouse 5 hours ago Greg is right that they made White racism like it is worse than anything Roger Brooke Taney 5 hours ago Orania is not the model for America, it&#8217;s equivalent to retreating to an Indian reservation of 2k Afrikaners out of 62 million South Africans, whereas all White South Africans together are only 8% minority now (Boers even less 5%).</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 5 hours ago Euro-based streamers have to abide by stringent speech laws, sadly.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Barnstormer What&#8217;s your question? White Community 5 hours ago yeah basic words are censored here, stupid as fk Reddog 5 hours ago Big shoutout to Tim Murdoch and Jim Goad!! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f918-1f3fb.png" alt="🤘🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> ThinRedLine 5 hours ago Macron just declared election because of his party´s poor performance in the European parliament election</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 5 hours ago who is the admin of the chat? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Muh Fashy Bookshelf <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1ee-1f1f9.png" alt="🇮🇹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> 5 hours ago I&#8217;m not optimistic considering what I witness in my city. The levels of degeneracy, miscegenation, women walking dogs instead of changing diapers has proliferated considerably in the past few years. It&#8217;s only getting worse.</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Lampshade_Denier Not a regular viewer these days but I would think that on Odysee censoring basic words is absurd Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago share the link where you can Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago over 500 watching Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago Salute</p>
<p>@whiterabbitradio Unknown Californian 5 hours ago I hope TIm Murdoch and Jim Goad are in the chat Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer It shouldn&#8217;t surprise you at this point.</p>
<p>@SACPOP_spider 5 hours ago imagine the level of delusion required to be hopeful about another Trump term Reddog 5 hours ago Counter their words racism, racist, supremacist, etc. with antiwhite, antiwhite narrative, Antiwhiteism, our white wellbeing, etc. the woodlander 5 hours ago i think logistically deporting around 100 million non whites is going to be a tad difficult.</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 5 hours ago we should not chase extremely unlikely scenarios. do what is possible now. with all due respect, both of these men will have the financial means to go where they must when collapse occurs. who in the chat has that capability? Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@synchro505 certainly and far eclipses most counter-currents streams -while amren does not hold regular streams, and i don&#8217;t know about GTK</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago Greg Johnson | Irreconcilable Differences: The Case for Racial Divorce: https://tinyurl.com/34m5z3r6 PotatoMutt 5 hours ago Why has Uncle Jared</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@whiterabbitradio I remember your Pocahontas video, thanks <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@SACPOP_spider 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@JohnTheConfederate the drink you get when you squeeze oranges&#8230; can&#8217;t even talk about refreshing fruity beverages Reddog 5 hours ago Antiwhite and Antiwhiteism is being used a lot more too by Mark Dice, Trump Jr., even Trump in one speech, etc. White Community 5 hours ago Trump is a petty tactician, no strategy. The highest strategy is to race and creed. Without a racial and creedal strategy, &#8216;they&#8217; are laughing at you.</p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson That&#8217;s a lot for Odysee. Dr. Martin Luther 5 hours ago Great Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago I just made that rap name up btw</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson What do you mean? In other words, it&#8217;s at Frodi&#8217;s discretion? Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago Free lil yung CHOPPA, Trump!</p>
<p>@WingITprod 5 hours ago 4-D chess :laughing_1: :laughing_1: :laughing_1: :laughing_1: :laughing_1:</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker No problem. Tom &#8211; tszymk77 5 hours ago He will deport 5 antisemitic Mexicans. Path of Totality 5 hours ago what if Trump picks that black guy Scott for his VP? nooooo!</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago The only people he will deport are those that don&#8217;t like Js. Get real</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer It&#8217;s at the discretion of the channel. Just letting you know. Archie 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson thanks Kanketsu 5 hours ago I&#8217;m sure will deport illegals just like he built the wall</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk Reddog 5 hours ago There is a video series on YouTube called Equal Training: How to Reverse Antiwhite Indoctrination. This holds a major key to what we can actually do. Go watch it and spread it far and wide.</p>
<p>@Stereotype_Enjoyer 5 hours ago Why is the J word banned from chat wtf? Archie 5 hours ago How come the Entropy donation link isn&#8217;t pinned at the top? What is the Entropy link? Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@JohnTheConfederate He loves them. He has stated they are more successful than Whites and Whites are envious of them. Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago you describe a causal relationship Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Lampshade_Denier you wrote because</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago Who trusts Trump now? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2721.png" alt="✡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f2.png" alt="🇺🇲" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Path of Totality 5 hours ago the leftists will keep the deportation orders in the courts for years Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson No, it&#8217;s not his fault. However, AmRen hasn&#8217;t moved the needle. Your argument is childish. Foundations of The 21st Century 5 hours ago Debates are absurdly Passe&#8217;. History&amp;Truth 5 hours ago 1 So why hasn&#8217;t the psychological warfare waged against us tried to be mended within the sphere a long time ago? Roger Brooke Taney 5 hours ago White Americans 50-60% of US. Afrikaners only 8% of South Africa and aren&#8217;t giving up crying it&#8217;s over; Boers aren&#8217;t calling themselves a defeated people. In fact Whites ruled South Africa at 1970s-80s peak with a minority of less than 20% of ZA population. And only 7% White minority ruled Rhodesia!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago Jared Taylor video | (Regarding end of America) What is Our Goal? https://tinyurl.com/bdd6e266 Greg Johnson response to Jared Taylor video | Is America Doomed? https://tinyurl.com/57drv8de Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago Not extremely unlikely imo. Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago is this what you mean ? Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Lampshade_Denier yes, it&#8217;s all his fault, because he has given his adult life to our cause, and yet here we are &#8230;</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago 35 years ago Jared was talking about the wonders of Windows 98 <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2728.png" alt="✨" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine Thanks for your support. Tom &#8211; tszymk77 5 hours ago balkanize Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago Because AmRen didn&#8217;t move the needle. ThinRedLine 5 hours ago $10.00 Mr Jared Taylor, what do you think is the solutions for White America ?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Greg Johnson at Counter-Currents: https://linktr.ee/countercurrents</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 5 hours ago Agree with Jared so far, will be interesting to hear Greg&#8217;s stance. the woodlander 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled correct My Rowhouse 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog I meant more people with our point of view</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago change isn&#8217;t going to occur with prayers and teddy bears <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f9f8.png" alt="🧸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Horse Consoler 5 hours ago mr. taylor isn&#8217;t telling white people to &#8216;give up&#8217;, he&#8217;s giving a realistic analysis of the current situation PiedmontFugitive 5 hours ago We have to stop looking at ourselves as refugees in our own country, and need to start understanding ourselves as colonists in a new country, or many new countries. derekjamesx 5 hours ago Man, X is really missing Jared Taylor. Wilhem Ivorsson 5 hours ago Don&#8217;t forget to LIKE the stream! Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago Send in them superchats folks! hit the <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Path of Totality 5 hours ago most colleges are cultural Marxist indoctrination centers Reddog 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@RowHouse Fertility alone would not solve the problem. If we don’t win over their minds, our children will just become more antiwhite foot soldiers. History&amp;Truth 5 hours ago Hmm, so should White people give up then, Jared? :worried: Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago a genocide, maybe an oblique genocide, but a whole genocide</p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian Yes, people&#8217;s republic of Santa Monica.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago the deaths of despair, the deaths of unborn children Unknown Californian 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@synchro505 are you in California as well?</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Torwell <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> ThinRedLine 5 hours ago Don´t get Jamaicoed</p>
<p>@Torwell 5 hours ago Has Jared been listening to Devon Stack? Charles Gerety 5 hours ago We are absolutely not defeated Mr. Taylor My Rowhouse 5 hours ago Whites need to get to 3 children at least, White couples with 3 children more please!!! Dusanko 5 hours ago Becuase White Americans lost in 1945.</p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian Same. The grocery store has become a freak show lately. Two armed security at all times.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago brutal honestly from Jared Tom &#8211; tszymk77 5 hours ago Who designated us? The self chosen. Reddog 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Lampshade_Denier In due time with some. But first we must lead with OUR moral arguments. Wen you force terminology you force ideology and take over the narrative and the moral high ground. Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago Jared lives in Fairfax VA and NoVa has very, very few Whites left. It&#8217;s brown, brown, brown. Few blacks, but lots of everything else.</p>
<p>@Barnstormer 5 hours ago we start a white nation by immigrating into the same area and forming a voting block for local elections. This is easier done in an area that is already white, preferably more right wing, and affordable for those whom have been harmed by this economy. Texas and California are lost.</p>
<p>@Letwrong 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled Ausländer raus :microphone: ThinRedLine 5 hours ago ausländer raus</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine Sure thing.</p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Lampshade_Denier That is encouraging to hear. My Rowhouse 5 hours ago the younger people it is so bad being White Unknown Californian 5 hours ago I live in multicultural HELL danzimmons 5 hours ago every western government is anti White &amp; pro ass Kissin to israel &amp; the bankster class, but it’s not about who controls our currency <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f644.png" alt="🙄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled Always. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago ausländer raus <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1e9-1f1ea.png" alt="🇩🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> My Rowhouse 5 hours ago Most conservatives go bend over backwards for Israel instead of for Whites Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog It can be done. A Boomer family member of mine figured it out on his own during covid.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson Gtsy mate <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> ThinRedLine 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson thank you ThinRedLine 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson thx good to see you Brother</p>
<p>@Dorktron 5 hours ago Tucker famously refused Charles Gerety 5 hours ago Look at San. Francisco and tell me it&#8217;s not a lost cause Reddog 5 hours ago You know (((who))). But if you lead with the JQ, most whites will reject you and think you’re crazy even if you meticulously present all of the facts. Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine yes, opening statements, no time limit</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine Yes. Good evening brother. Reddog 5 hours ago We are the villains in the antiwhite narrative controlled by the antiwhites worldwide.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@synchro505 oh you (((know)))</p>
<p>@edmonddusa 5 hours ago If you prioritise economics then indeed nothing can be done.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Anonymous Thanks for your donation.</p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog Why are they allowing this? Who is forcing it upon them?</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog yeah, was going to ask Jared about that. 800k Nigerians apparently heading to <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1ef-1f1f5.png" alt="🇯🇵" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Green Party 5 hours ago $3.00 Great debate! Unknown Californian 5 hours ago Whites need to retake California Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Reddog Yup. By the usual suspects. Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian The 200 that are left? California is brown. ThinRedLine 5 hours ago Opening statements ?</p>
<p>@Letwrong 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@ARealUberMensch YES! Mystor 5 hours ago Israelis are often seen as running the US. Whites can likewise have critical influence on the US without being the majority.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@ARealUberMensch Thanks for your consistent and loyal support.</p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled Indeed! (loved your recent video, BTW)</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago NEW video from Jared Taylor | Can the USA Again Be Our Home? Part I https://tinyurl.com/2arsddrf ARealUberMensch 5 hours ago $20.00 jared, love you man, but there is a particular group of people who unify effectively behind the principal and policy of Browning america. they are the most disproportionately overrepresented group of the multicultural movement and yet you never seem to criticize them regarding this. Charles Gerety 5 hours ago All of USA isn&#8217;t salvageable however the white pill is an ethnostate which is absolutely in play Reddog 5 hours ago The Japanese are being targeted next already. Wilhem Ivorsson 5 hours ago Rules: 1. Have social skills 2. No spamming, shitposting, or random links 3. No fedposting 4. No gossip &amp; drama 5. No promoting other channels/groups (forwarding on-topic posts is fine)</p>
<p>@Dorktron 5 hours ago Shun all white traitors Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@johngoras73 indubitably Reddog 5 hours ago Withdraw their financial support and free GIBs.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp 5 hours ago I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s desirable to save in it&#8217;s current state. We need to collectivise Whites along racial grounds and protect ourselves as it collapses.</p>
<p>@johngoras73 5 hours ago Ear buds matching his eyes. Stylish Gentleman. Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago but go ahead and answer your own question Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@tszymk77 Absolutely! Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Lampshade_Denier because it&#8217;s -while relevant &#8211; tangential, and not conducive to building the more specific case against white replacement Reddog 5 hours ago And then the 1965 Hart Cellar Act happened</p>
<p>@SACPOP_spider 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@horseconsoler america being over is for the best. Whites will spend some time in &#8220;the wilderness&#8221; and when we re-take the world it will be better than ever before, even if that is many generations from today. Unknown Californian 5 hours ago By the Js!!</p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian Indeed!</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago Duke&#8217;s Unknown Californian 5 hours ago Elon needs to restore Greg and Jared&#8217;s accounts</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Help this channel by hitting the <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> icon for a like! Tom &#8211; tszymk77 5 hours ago Send them back. danzimmons 5 hours ago BPP <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />%</p>
<p>@edmonddusa 5 hours ago Reconquista 2049</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1e9-1f1ea.png" alt="🇩🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago :thumbs_up: Charles Gerety 5 hours ago Two legends today danzimmons 5 hours agoAUSLÄNDER RAUS!! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1e9-1f1ea.png" alt="🇩🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Unknown Californian 5 hours ago Gregor is the man!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Jared Taylor at American Renaissance: Website: https://www.amren.com Telegram: https://t.me/AmRenOfficial Gab: https://gab.com/AmRenaissance Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/AmRen Odysee:</p>
<p>@AmericanRenaissance Substack: https://radiorenaissance.substack.com/ Charles Gerety 5 hours ago Certain sectors are certainly possible in the Midwest</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Greg Johnson at Counter-Currents: https://linktr.ee/countercurrents</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Woodlader.4 evening mate <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f333.png" alt="🌳" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> danzimmons 5 hours ago Woodlandef <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@synchro505 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@FrankLDeSilva Good question!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f332.png" alt="🌲" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow The Woodlander&#8217;s website, The Woodlander Initiative: https://woodlanderinitiative.co.uk/ Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago but a few thousand should do it Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago we have to rule the world, or build an IMPERIUM and further homogenize white cultures, because a few hundred nukes won&#8217;t dissuade our irreconcilable enemies from their genocidal plots the woodlander 5 hours ago gents Horse Consoler 5 hours ago white enclaves are possible, white america is over Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Myst0r large numbers ? 300 nukes are not sufficient for the french &#8220;force de dissuasion&#8221; ??? Tom &#8211; tszymk77 5 hours ago Nothing can change without solving the JP. Soleks 5 hours ago hhhwhites Reddog 5 hours ago (((Hart))) (((Cellar))) Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian Because AmRen is funded by Js. Charles Gerety 5 hours ago Mistakes were made in 1965 and they never saw it coming Horse Consoler 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@SACPOP_spider you may well be right Reddog 5 hours ago That was absolutely the intention. Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago Js were behind it Jared. When will you be honest? Unknown Californian 5 hours ago That&#8217;s why I love Greg, he names the Js Lord Wah-Wah 5 hours ago 1 Abnormal is the New Normal.</p>
<p>@BlackPigeonPilled 5 hours ago Thanks Frodi <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Will O&#8217; The Wild 5 hours ago Chuded Taylor Path of Totality 5 hours ago back To The Future Supremacy <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@edmonddusa 5 hours ago It is always possible. If the will is there. Will O&#8217; The Wild 5 hours ago It&#8217;s so over</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago Jared Taylor video | (Regarding end of America) What is Our Goal? https://tinyurl.com/bdd6e266 Greg Johnson response to Jared Taylor video | Is America Doomed? https://tinyurl.com/57drv8de NEW video from Jared Taylor | Can the USA Again Be Our Home? Part I https://tinyurl.com/2arsddrf Dusanko 5 hours ago Jared clarified more with second video few days ago Gaddius Maximus 5 hours ago Heck I’ll take the 80’s at this point</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> This stream is also on DLive: https://dlive.tv/GTK_Radio Mystor 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson The only White state with a real deterrent is the US, you need advanced delivery systems and large numbers. All the other White countries, including UK &amp; France, are being protected by United States&#8217; nuclear umbrella.</p>
<p>@Gullaldr 5 hours ago It isn&#8217;t live on Rumble Lampshade Denier 5 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian And give Jared the bls to admit the js are behind the invasion. Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago yes quite jarringly out of sync</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk Dusanko 5 hours ago SHARE My Awesome Channel 5 hours ago Audio out of sync.</p>
<p>@edmonddusa 5 hours ago Greetings from Hungary, looking forward to the debate. Foundations of The 21st Century 5 hours ago Why are you NOT streaming on X? Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago the same can be said of christianity Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago the major chinese philosophes of confucianism and taoism, for example, emerged from civilizational collapse</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson 5 hours ago <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f387.png" alt="🎇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Superchats/questions through Odysee (here in this chat) and through Entropy: https://entropystream.live/gtk White Capability 5 hours ago America has to collapse in order to escape the financial system and all the global postioning we&#8217;re involved in&#8230; Unknown Californian 5 hours ago Gaddius is the man!</p>
<p>@thedesperatevoid 5 hours ago Happy Sunday everyone Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago the collapse of an empire invites radical new ideas, completely new moralities and social structures &#8211; because everyone understands after such a failure that drastic change is needed Will O&#8217; The Wild 5 hours ago LATE LATE LATE LATE LATE Dusanko 5 hours ago Share this everywhere ! Leroy Patterson 5 hours ago i&#8217;m not sure that this is true in every case &#8211; and so i generally agree with you, a weakened federal government, weakened economy, discredited information- and propaganda-structure are openings for us Will O&#8217; The Wild 5 hours ago Odysee gang &gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Question for Mark<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Looking forward to the debate</p>
<p>Dr. Martin Luther<br />
5 hours ago<br />
God bless Jared and Greg!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
5 hours ago<br />
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<p>Keribou<br />
5 hours ago<br />
hey all</p>
<p>@Letwrong<br />
5 hours ago</p>
<p>@UnknownCalifornian<br />
real</p>
<p>@BlackpillOverdose<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Stream started</p>
<p>Unknown Californian<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Jared needs to hangout with Joel Davis and allow his youthful exuberance to lift his spirit</p>
<p>@SACPOP_spider<br />
5 hours ago</p>
<p>@LeroyPatterson<br />
sure, it already has and it will likely get worse. We&#8217;re going to have to survive through that. More tyrannical but luckily less competent as white people are replaced in positions of power.</p>
<p>@BlackpillOverdose<br />
5 hours ago<br />
One can only look at Eastern Europe today. Poland for example rapidly succumbing too globohomo and foreign immigration which was unimaginable 10 years ago due to american influence. And ukraine for that matter is obvious</p>
<p>PiedmontFugitive<br />
5 hours ago<br />
There has never been just one America, it has always been fragmented. We are now entering a new area of an entirely different type of fragmentation.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
5 hours ago<br />
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<p>@BlackpillOverdose<br />
5 hours ago<br />
It all depends how question is presented. What is America? America as we know it now in its size, and government, that certainly cannot be saved anymore. Things are going to have to change majorly for us to &#8216;save it&#8217;</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
5 hours ago<br />
I&#8217;ve unbanned Carlota. He&#8217;s a longtime user I&#8217;m familiar with and I&#8217;m reminding everyone to avoid engaging in any gossip.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
5 hours ago<br />
I toggle between ‘We’re so back’ and ‘It’s over’ all the time.</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@gaddiusmaximus<br />
That is a worthy point of consideration that I hope today&#8217;s guests discuss.</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
6 hours ago<br />
I’m neutral on the topic, because I don’t know what the path forward is</p>
<p>Gaddius Maximus<br />
6 hours ago<br />
$10.00<br />
A challenge for Mr. Taylor: Why not be optimistic for the future when the Spanish Reconquista is a historical precedent we can draw inspiration from? It seems to me that all of this is over as soon as we take our own side.</p>
<p>@SACPOP_spider<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Death to America, the Great Satan</p>
<p>Weltschmerz<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Jared&#8217;s take has been spawning some ideas for white dystopian&lt;&gt;utopian fiction.</p>
<p>@Letwrong<br />
5 hours ago</p>
<p>@SACPOP_spider<br />
true</p>
<p>@BlackpillOverdose<br />
5 hours ago<br />
I agree with SACPOP. America as we know it must decline and/or fracture. So there is no saving it, only perhaps in a totally new form.</p>
<p>Will O&#8217; The Wild<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Two great minds on a very important question. I paused writing my master&#8217;s thesis for this. Can&#8217;t wait :fire:</p>
<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
5 hours ago</p>
<p>@SACPOP_spider<br />
johnson has written that when the power of an empire decreases overseas it becomes tyrannical at home</p>
<p>Gaddius Maximus<br />
5 hours ago<br />
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5 hours ago<br />
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<p>@i_sniff_glue<br />
5 hours ago<br />
been looking forward to this all day</p>
<p>@SACPOP_spider<br />
5 hours ago<br />
we are not going to regain control of america so it is best that its power decreases, a strong america in the hands of our enemies is what we&#8217;ve had since WW2 and look at the results for whites all over the world</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
5 hours ago<br />
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<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
5 hours ago<br />
if a white state can maintain a credible nuclear deterrent, we don&#8217;t have to rule the world</p>
<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
5 hours ago<br />
the princes and the children of the elites should be educated in the imperial capital, of course, it is the wish of all involved, a few of them cannot disturb our harmony</p>
<p>Mystor<br />
5 hours ago<br />
America was on the brink of getting nuked in the 80&#8217;s. If you can&#8217;t rule the world, you will be destroyed.</p>
<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
5 hours ago<br />
yes, because the conquered peoples must serve the empire, they must wish to serve the empire, they must be convinced of some universal ideal</p>
<p>@SACPOP_spider<br />
5 hours ago</p>
<p>@Myst0r<br />
america needs to decline so that whites globally can preserve themselves</p>
<p>PiedmontFugitive<br />
5 hours ago<br />
I would settle for just enforcing our borders. Globalism is a precursor of multiculturalism.</p>
<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
5 hours ago<br />
and what have we gained, racially speaking, from enforcing neoliberalism, free trade, and free movement on the world</p>
<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
5 hours ago<br />
the world&#8217;s enforcer ?</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
5 hours ago<br />
is there an app for Entropy? I still don’t have it</p>
<p>Mystor<br />
5 hours ago<br />
America is the world&#8217;s enforcer, Whites need to maintain strong influence on it in order to survive.</p>
<p>Weltschmerz<br />
5 hours ago<br />
I remember listening to Paul Kersey harping on his mantra &#8220;America is irredeemable&#8221; on Amren podcasts back in 2015, so I imagine this is not an entirely new angle of approach for Mr. Taylor.</p>
<p>Gaddius Maximus<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Let’s keep Greg, Jared and Frodi up all night by bombarding them with superchat questions.</p>
<p>Dr. Martin Luther<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Jesus Christ be praised!</p>
<p>@Letwrong<br />
6 hours ago<br />
RIP</p>
<p>@Carlota</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
6 hours ago<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@gaddiusmaximus<br />
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<p>Archie<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@Doooovid<br />
May Thor have victory!!</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
6 hours ago<br />
note: For some reason I can’t see my texts while typing into the chat, so please forgive typing and grammatical errors.</p>
<p>Weltschmerz<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
One comment says &#8220;Greg is a loser&#8221; while the next claims &#8220;Jared is a shill&#8221;. You are just here for subversion, eh?</p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Ed Odyssey checking in. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f64b-1f3fc-200d-2642-fe0f.png" alt="🙋🏼‍♂️" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Path of Totality<br />
6 hours ago<br />
test</p>
<p>@Letwrong<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@WilhemIvorsson<br />
my bad</p>
<p>Wilhem Ivorsson<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
and</p>
<p>@Letwrong<br />
This topic falls under gossip and drama. Consider yourselves warned.</p>
<p>@Letwrong<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
yeah</p>
<p>@Letwrong<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
Would explain some things. I watched a speech of him reading aloud a bunch of anti-white quotes by J&#8217;s but he never seemed to make the connection?</p>
<p>Gaddius Maximus<br />
6 hours ago<br />
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<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
6 hours ago<br />
i can&#8217;t write this word, this three-letter word, that refers to &#8216;them&#8217;</p>
<p>PiedmontFugitive<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Really looking forward to this one.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@FrankLDeSilva<br />
You&#8217;re welcome.</p>
<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
6 hours ago<br />
there&#8217;s some filter</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
6 hours ago<br />
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<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
6 hours ago<br />
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/05/04/setting-record-straight-longtime-partner-jared-taylor-addresses-white-nationalist-criticism</p>
<p>Foundations of The 21st Century<br />
6 hours ago</p>
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Thanks.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44d-1f3fb.png" alt="👍🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Leroy Patterson<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota</p>
<p>@Letwrong<br />
According to Evelyn Rich, Jared Taylor&#8217;s wife:</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@FrankLDeSilva<br />
We begin in 30 minutes.</p>
<p>Foundations of The 21st Century<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Is this Starting in 30m&#8230;or Longer?</p>
<p>@Letwrong<br />
6 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
ofc he is :roll_eyes:</p>
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6 hours ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
I haven&#8217;t watched JT too much but why does he never acknowledge (them)?</p>
<p>doooovid<br />
6 hours ago<br />
G-d bless, keep the spirit of debate alive!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
6 hours ago<br />
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6 hours ago<br />
This will be glorious. I deeply respect both men.</p>
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6 hours ago<br />
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6 hours ago<br />
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<p>Dr. Martin Luther<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Greetings</p>
<p>Unknown Californian<br />
6 hours ago<br />
I think Jared needs to hang out with Joel Davis. I think Joel&#8217;s youthful exuberance will lift Jared&#8217;s spirit</p>
<p>Archie<br />
7 hours ago<br />
I also think that Mr Taylor is correct however I think that Mr Johnson is right in that efforts must be made to slow, stop and reverse the trend. Algeria did it and many other countries. Whites colonizers have been kicked out hence non-Whites can be kicked out of White countries.</p>
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7 hours ago<br />
&#8230; because a person knows whether daylight savings time is in effect in their own time zone. Worrying if London or Prague are in daylight savings time adds too much confusion.</p>
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7 hours ago<br />
To make the start time simple for people I will say that the show begins at<br />
19:00<br />
UTC a.ka. good ole fashioned Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) a.k.a. zulu time. GMT never uses daylight savings time which makes converting to a person&#8217;s local time simple because&#8230;</p>
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8 hours ago<br />
We&#8217;re starting in 2.5 hours.</p>
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9 hours ago</p>
<p>@SomeRandomBloke<br />
Thanks for your contribution.</p>
<p>Open Borders for Israel<br />
9 hours ago<br />
$5.00<br />
I&#8217;m from Australia, so will miss this..but it&#8217;s not just the US that is in trouble, according to demographic projections, there will be 4.5 Africans by 2100 with Nigeria alone having more people than entire EU by 2060. 75% of young Africans want to go to Europe. What do you think Europe&#8217;s future is?</p>
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13 hours ago<br />
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17 hours ago<br />
I know I&#8217;m not going to catch this live, but I will def watch it.</p>
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21 hours ago<br />
I cant wait for this. Really will be thought provoking.</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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1 day ago<br />
Looking forward to this.</p>
<p>Gaddius Maximus<br />
1 day ago<br />
nice</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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1 day ago<br />
12pm eastern or?</p>
<p>@BMC1488<br />
3 days ago<br />
Looking forward to this discussion!</p>
<p>Just living in interesting times&#8230;<br />
4 days ago<br />
Go</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
I have to say; his points are thought provoking.</p>
<p>Just living in interesting times&#8230;<br />
4 days ago</p>
<p>@The_Black_Sun_Will_Rise_Again<br />
1.6 is negative growth. At 2.6 we might survive. But our IQ has fallen too low to recognize this.</p>
<p>Just living in interesting times&#8230;<br />
4 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s too late; we&#8217;re an &#8220;endangered&#8221; species that won&#8217;t breed and is voluntarily is castrating our &#8220;last&#8221; generation. At least we&#8217;ll exit as &#8220;equals&#8221;. The only solution is so draconian that none will agree to it. We&#8217;ve been genocided by our own leaders.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
4 days ago</p>
<p>@The_Black_Sun_Will_Rise_Again<br />
Please refrain from spamming the chat and give others a chance to reply or discuss. Thanks.</p>
<p>The Black Sun Will Rise Again<br />
4 days ago<br />
White Total Fertility Rate has now surpassed black TFR in America for the first time ever.<br />
-Total: 1.614<br />
-White: 1.525<br />
-Black: 1.479<br />
-Hispanic: 1.977<br />
-Asian: 1.339</p>
<p>The Black Sun Will Rise Again<br />
4 days ago<br />
Euro-Americans have a brighter future than most white groups in Europe. Free speach + High fertility sects</p>
<p>The Black Sun Will Rise Again<br />
4 days ago<br />
Simply by demographics they will reach tens then hundreds of millions rapidly, the 20% who leave their community will increase the ranks of whites in mainstream society.</p>
<p>The Black Sun Will Rise Again<br />
4 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m curious to hear Taylor&#8217;s opinion on the Amish, their population doubles every 20 years and their fertility rates don&#8217;t drop &#8211; unlike virtually every other group in the world, even black Africa.</p>
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6 days ago<br />
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6 days ago<br />
I forgot who asked for this, but Frodi has delivered. Or will deliver. Looking forward to it. :thumbs_up:</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>Luke Ford, </strong>an Australian living in the USA, who &#8220;<em>converted</em>&#8221; to Judaism in 1993, interviews <strong>Tanstaafl</strong> from the <strong>Age of Treason</strong> blog on the subject of the Jewish Question, aka, Jewish Problem.</span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">TRANSCRIPT</span></h1>
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<h3><span style="color: #008000;">CONTENTS</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford001"><strong>Introduction — Tanstaafl’s Journey on the JQ</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford002"><strong>A Personal Disclosure</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford003"><strong>The White Network</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford004"><strong>Consequences for Your Marriage?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford005"><strong>Growing Up in New York</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford006"><strong>The jewish Grandfather</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford007"><strong>Hitler’s Struggle and Yours</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford008"><strong>On Circumcision</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford009"><strong>Reading MacDonald</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford010"><strong>Jewish Crypsis and Parasitism</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford011"><strong>On Finding Support</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford012"><strong>How Your Work Differs from Others</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford013"><strong>An Existential Threat</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford014"><strong>Mein Kampf and National Socialism</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford015"><strong>Jewish Crypsis — Spain and Portugual</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford016"><strong>Jewish Crypsis — Today</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford017"><strong>“In Your Face” jews and “Down-low” jews</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford018"><strong>Ford’s Critique of Critics of jews</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford019"><strong>Tan’s Response</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford020"><strong>Complicating Things as jewish Camouflage</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford021"><strong>Jewish Gaslighting</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford022"><strong>Ad Hominem — Cofnas vs MacDonald</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford023"><strong>Jewish Deception and Coverups</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford024"><strong>Cofnas’ Critique and Your Respect for MacDonald</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford025"><strong>Cofnas — MacDonald’s Evidence is Counter-evidence</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford026"><strong>Any Factual Errors in Cofnas’ Work?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford027"><strong>Cofnas Call MacDonald a “Bad Person”</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford028"><strong>Jews “Didn’t Du Nuffin!”</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford029"><strong>Ford — So Criticism of Scholarship is a Personal Attack?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford030"><strong>Cofnas — Worried About MacDonald’s Work</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford031"><strong>Cofnas Doesn’t Prove His Case</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford032"><strong>Ford — Does Cofnas Screech “Anti-semitism”?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford033"><strong>I Always Write “Anti-semitism” with Sneer Quotes</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford034"><strong>Whites Have Not Taken Their Own Side Hard Enough</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford035"><strong>You are Arguing Like a jew, Luke!</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford036"><strong>Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford037"><strong>Jews Marrying Non-jews</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford038"><strong>Ford — So anything jews Do is Group Evolutionary Strategy?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford039"><strong>Jews Always Arguing About What’s Best for the jews!</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford040"><strong>“Jews are Not a Monolith” — A Silly Statement!</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford041"><strong>The Root of jewing is: “Is it Good for the jews?”</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford042"><strong>Culture of Critique’s Chapter 7 on Immigration</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford043"><strong>Open Borders for Israel is My Attitude</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford044"><strong>Jews Not Threatened in a Multi-ethnic Society</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford045"><strong>Jews and the Second World War</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford046"><strong>Being Evidence Based</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford047"><strong>School Shooting in Florida</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford048"><strong>Does MacDonald’s Model Have Predictive Value?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford049"><strong>Jewish Out-Marriage One Half of the Parasitism</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford050"><strong>Whatever jews Do is Bad Because They are the Enemy!</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford051"><strong>Do White People Have Agency?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford052"><strong>Luke, You’re Not Making Honest Valid Arguments</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford053"><strong>Would You Describe jews as Ethnocentric?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford054"><strong>Jews Moralize to Whites to Convince Them That What is Good for Whites is Bad</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford055"><strong>Fifteen jewish Intellectuals</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford056"><strong>Whites Don’t Recognise That jews are at War with Them!</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford057"><strong>Jews Behaving as “Nazis”</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford058"><strong>Intersectional jewing — Where One jew Agenda Conflicts with Another jew Agenda</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford059"><strong>Intersectional jewing — Promoting Reich, Pinker and Cofnas as Being Against “anti-racist” jewing</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford060"><strong>Why are Whites Unable to Overcome the jews?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford061"><strong>Super Chats — What Should White Guys Do to Spread Awareness of the JP?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford062"><strong>Ford — Are You a Leader?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford063"><strong>Comments — Are All jews In On It?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford064"><strong>Comments — Is Monomania on the JQ Better Than White Improvement?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford065"><strong>Do jews Control the Weather?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford066"><strong>Comments — How are Whites to Speak on jew Influence Without “anti-semite’ Being Shrieked</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford067"><strong>Jews are the Enemy Whatever They Do?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford068"><strong>Is Steve Miller Anti-White?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford069"><strong>Are You an Unhappy Guy?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford070"><strong>Things That Make You Happy?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford071"><strong>Reflections on This Interview</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford072"><strong>What Does It Mean To Be a jew?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford073"><strong>Ford’s Fundamental Misunderstanding of Judaism</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford074"><strong>Do You Believe in Universal Morality?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford075"><strong>Ford’s Journey To judaism</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford076"><strong>A jew Told Ford That you Can’t Convert To judaism</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford077"><strong>Ford Hasn’t Fooled jews</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford078"><strong>On Ford Being Rejected By his Peers at School</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford079"><strong>Ford As Cover Article in “The jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles”</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford080"><strong>Lawrence Auster Admitted That jews were Responsible for Open Borders</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford081"><strong>On Ford’s Hatred of jewish Organizations That are for Open Borders</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford082"><strong>Ford — Do You Thinks I’m Delusional?</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford083"><strong>How Ford Can Help Whites by Blowing the Whistle on Jews</strong></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford085"><strong>NOTES &amp; LINKS</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford086"><strong>PDF NOTES</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="#AOTford087"><strong>Version History</strong></a></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford001"></a>Introduction — Tanstaafl’s Journey on the JQ</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Hey, I’m<strong> Luke Ford</strong>. I’m here with the <strong>Age of Treason</strong> blogger, <strong>Tanstaafl.</strong> Tan, you’ve been blogging for quite a long time. Tell me about your evolution, in particular on the JQ.</p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> And here with <strong>Tanstaafl*</strong>, so we are going to get that microphone problem taken care of, and then we are going to discuss Nathan Cofnas’ critique<span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [of Kevin MacDonald’s book “<span style="color: #008000;"><em><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://archive.org/details/TheCultureOfCritiqueAnEvolutionaryAnalysisOf">The Culture of Critique</a></em>”</span>]</strong></span>.. So Tan, take it away! Tell me when you started blogging. Tell me about the evolution of your journey on the JQ.</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* A pseudonym using the acronym for “<em>There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch</em>&#8220;. The phrase and the acronym are central to Robert Heinlein&#8217;s 1966 science-fiction novel <strong><em>The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress</em></strong>.]</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Right. I started in 2005. I started blogging, and that was after I had spent about twenty years, maybe, of not paying attention, being fed up with politics, mainstream politics, and ignoring it, focusing on my career. But in 2005, I think, it was Hurricane Katrina that triggered me, the racialization of that. It was sort of a “<em>Trayvon Martin</em>” experience that many people experienced years later. I experienced during the Katrina thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so I started blogging. I had been talking to friends before that privately, and I just basically took it public. And moved through pretty quickly neo-conservative thought, which attracted me at first, because it seemed like a more serious approach to politics, than plain old conservative politics. And then I ran into someone named <strong>Lawrence Auster</strong>. You might be familiar with<span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>[him]</strong> </span>— that might have been where I came across you.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it was really Lawrence Auster, reading Lawrence Auster, that made me aware that there was something going on with the jews. Auster himself was a jew, was a convert to Christianity. But what I noticed over time with him was that he was hyper-sensitive to criticism of the Jews. He indulged in it himself, but it was always from the point of view of “<em>What’s good for the jews?</em>” He thought that the jews, in various ways, he criticized them for not doing what was best for themselves.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">From there — let’s see, trying to run through it — there was Steve Sailer. I became interested in Jared Taylor. And this is where I don’t recall exactly when I came across Kevin MacDonald’s work, but it was somewhere in there. Probably, it might have been Lawrence Auster who mentioned MacDonald.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">As I mentioned in my <strong><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://age-of-treason.com/2018/03/19/the-culture-of-critique-cries-out-in-pain-as-it-strikes-macdonald/">Cofnas piece</a></strong>, there were several other jews, later on, years later, that I noticed their allergic reaction to Kevin MacDonald. That they had a visceral negative reaction to MacDonald, that seemed irrational to me. But by that point, I was already aware of the jews, and aware of the harm they were causing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Back when I was first paying attention to Lawrence Auster, I wasn’t so aware. And so it probably came across to me as:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, it was probably years later before I really started, actually reading and listening to what Kevin MacDonald had to say. This is about, I think it was 2007, when I came across Lawrence Auster, and started, over time, becoming critical of him. It was probably around 2009 that I started becoming critical of the jews explicitly. I made a post called, I think, “<em>Committing the Most Mortal Sin</em>”*, or something like that.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[* “<a style="color: #008000;" href="http://age-of-treason.com/2007/09/28/committing-pcs-most-mortal-sin/"><em>Committing PC’s Most Mortal Sin</em></a>”, Sep 28</span>, 2007]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because I still understood things from a very “<em>politically correct</em>” point of view. But I understood that I was violating the primary rule of political correctness, which is really, “<em>semitical-correctness</em>” which is, you know, it’s a jew Sharia.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I didn’t realize that at the time, but I knew instinctively that any criticism of the jews was radioactive. Was going to make me a radioactive person.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford002"></a>A Personal Disclosure</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then it was 2010, I think, that I realized that my wife, whose father was jewish, that this was something that was important. That, I mean, I realized it was important as soon as I started questioning the jews. But I realized it was important for me to be straight about that with people who were reading and interacting with me online. And so I divulged it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I forget what I called that post. But, “<strong><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://age-of-treason.com/2010/01/14/a-personal-disclosure/"><em>A Personal Disclosure</em></a></strong>” I think is what I called it. And so, but I didn’t become less critical of the jews after that. I became more critical. I became more, I started to understand more about the history, and more about race.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[05:08]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford003"></a>The White Network</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">In 2012 through 2014, I partnered up with <strong>Carolyn Yeager</strong> and produced radio shows for <a href="http://thewhitenetwork-archive.com/">The White Network</a>. Which was a collaborative effort. And that ended in early 2014.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then since then I continued podcasting for another year, maybe two, or year and a half, and then ultimately I petered out even with podcasting. And today I continue blogging, but at a reduced rate. So that’s where we are.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Now, it seems like there was some dark nights of the soul there in your journey, you must, I mean, particularly the personal disclosure.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> That was one! That was hard to do. But I also felt better about doing it, because I had come clean about it. And from that point on I could talk honestly, basically. And it got darker later on when I realized just how deep this problem goes! I wouldn’t call it the “<strong><em>jewish Question</em></strong>”, it’s “<strong><em>the jewish Problem</em></strong>”! And it’s a big problem! And it’s been a big problem for a long, long, time. It’s an existential problem for White people.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as I realized that, I realized I’m doomed personally! I, you know, no matter what I do. I’m compromised! So I’m not going to, … if White people survive I won’t! My line won’t! And if the jews win, likewise! I’m not going to join them. So, either way I’m screwed!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But that just freed me to keep digging and keep talking.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford004"></a>Consequences for Your Marriage?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> What were the consequences for your marriage?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> None! My wife, I have I am very frank with her. I talk with her about what I’m thinking, and she is well aware of why I think what I think. And she agrees with what I think.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">She does not identify as a jew So she’s never had this visceral reaction as a jew that she’s just loses her cool about any criticism of jews. Her father was a full-blown jew, but married out. Married a woman who was not at all a jew. And was kind of the black sheep of his family for doing that. And died when my wife was only ten years old, so they never really gave her any indoctrination as a jew.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[07:55]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, she’s never felt defensive about my criticism of the jews. And she identifies herself, you know, as being part White. She has sympathy for White people as well.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> And have you had jewish friends?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> In the past I have. There were people in school, at university, and people at work. But I never got along with them. They always struck me as odd people. I mean, from the time I was in grade school, in New York City, the jewish kids always struck me as different. And it wasn’t something I could put my finger on. But they were not the same as the Italian kids, or the Irish kids. So anyway, that’s all I thought of them.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford005"></a>Growing Up in New York</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> You grew up in New York, so it is that we had abundant real life experience with jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Not abundant. No, because I went to a private Catholic high school. I was in public school through junior high school, through eighth grade. And then when I went to high school, I went to a private high school. And it was a college preparatory high school, that’s why. And then I went to college, studied mathematics, computer science, and didn’t meet too many of them there, either.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s strange, the guys I did get to know well and become friends with, none of them were jews, my close circle of friends. That wasn’t a conscious thing, but it was just what happened. And there were people who were jewish. My wife who I met at that time in college, had jewish girlfriends. And there was a circle of jews, that in retrospect, I see that they all knew who the jews were and who the non jews were. And they were hyper aware of it! And there were several comments that in retrospect, once I became aware of jews as distinct and as an enemy, I started to realize that some of these things that they had said, should have clued me in! If I had been more aware I would have recognized them as being shit tests, or what’s the other word for it, just probes, you know.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[10:29]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford006"></a>The jewish Grandfather</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I remember when I first met, I was well aware too that her father had been jewish, and when before we were going to get married, toward the end of school, I went and met her grandparents. It was funny, it was at a golf, country club that was jewish. I didn’t know that at the time, but in retrospect, again. And this old man, who was pleasant enough, nice guy to me, the grandfather. His friend came over, also an old man, an old jew. And he looked me head to toe, and he goes:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh boy! It doesn’t get much more goy than this!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[Ford laughs]</span></strong></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I just thought:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>‘Goy’, what’s the hell is that?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Even though I had been around them through grade school, and through college, I didn’t know the yiddish terms for things, including the word “<em>goy</em>”. So I just thought:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh! Whatever!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I took it as in stride, because, well, this is my future grandfather-in-law, and this is one of his friends. So, I’m not going to take offense at that, even though I don’t know what it means.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it was a test, basically. It was a probe! Is this kid, who I can see is a “<em>Nazi</em>”, basically, is he really a Nazi? Does he know he’s a Nazi? Does he know what jews are? How’s he going to react, if I poke him in the face, like this? And since I didn’t even know what he was talking about, I didn’t respond at all. Just sort of smiled stupidly, and went on with my life.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[11:56]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it wasn’t until many years later, like I said, with reading Lawrence Auster, that I became aware of just how active jews were in politics. And then, of course, after my eyes were opened. Then I was able, in retrospect, to realize all of these things that had happened in the past politically, that I had been dimly aware of, it involved jews.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Things like Henry Kissinger being in the White House. Being, you know, one of the primary advisors to Richard Nixon. And, not so much with the Reagan, but, although now I know the details and the shadows behind him, there was definitely a jewish, a strong jewish hand. And lots of other things like that, that I only realized in retrospect.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford007"></a>Hitler’s Struggle and Yours</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So Hitler struggled with his thinking about jews. He thought that most anti-semitism was primitive and stupid. He thought religious anti-semitism was stupid. He struggled for about ten years before he finally came down and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>The jews are not just a problem. But the problem!</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>How long did you struggle?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> About six months, maybe nine months. Once I had been exposed, &#8230; And something had set me up for that I feel, I didn’t mention, was that for a while as I think even before I became interested in what Lawrence Auster was saying. I was interested in what the counter jihad, or what I would call today the “<em>jewhadis</em>”. What they were saying critical of Islam, opened my eyes to criticizing non-Whites, criticizing non-Westerners. And seeing them do that, kind of laid out the steps that I was able to follow later, in saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well, why can’t the jews be criticized in the same way?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And today I would realize and say that jews can be criticized in virtually every way that Muslims are criticized, jews can be criticized, just as well.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> For the same things. I mean, for being outsiders, for having alien ways, for having negative attitudes toward their hosts. They go about it in different ways. There are different tactics that they use, the halal, the kosher. jew Sharia versus Muslim Sharia. Takkiya, the Muslims their code of being able to lie to infidels, and the jews basically have that dual morality, as well, that goes much deeper.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so a lot of that research and time that I had spent reading and thinking up my own critiques of Muslims. I was very easily able to map it into, okay, well now do the same thing to jews. So that’s why it was partly, it was almost like a rubber band snapping in my head, once I realized that race was important.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Which had to do with a Muslim protest, it was some nationalists in Belgium, or something, were getting beaten by the cops. These were White cops beating White politicians that were anti-Muslim. It snapped in my head that this is crazy! That White people are beating each other up over aliens! And I realized that I’m a White man and I’m against this. This is insanity! And I wanted to understand it more. And it was several months later that I realized this has to do with the jews. This is all about the jews!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:29]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford008"></a>On Circumcision</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Were you circumcised at birth?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I was. Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> How do you feel about that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I resent it. </span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Ford laughs]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I’m angry about it! And I’m angry that it happens to other kids. In fact, my boys are circumcised, because I was not aware what it was all about, when that came up. It was like:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh well, you know, you get circumcised</em>”.</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s just the thing that people do. I didn’t realize that there was a jewish aspect to it at all.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford009"></a>Reading MacDonald</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So what was your first Kevin MacDonald book that you ever read?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I’ve never read any of have MacDonald’s books, cover to cover. I have all three of his major trilogy. But, what I’ve read of Kevin MacDonald are pieces here and there. I have <em><strong>Mein Kampf</strong></em> too!<span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong> </span>But I’ve never read that cover to cover, either! I used to read voraciously. I have a bookshelf full of books that, by the time I became active on the internet I was doing almost all of my reading on the internet in electronic form. So I really had stopped reading books. And also I had lost interest in the kind of books I was reading. I used to read history of science, and science fiction type books.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-with-MacDonald-Vs-Cofnas-Culture-of-Critique-Book-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-28280" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-with-MacDonald-Vs-Cofnas-Culture-of-Critique-Book-1.jpg" alt="" width="633" height="897" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-with-MacDonald-Vs-Cofnas-Culture-of-Critique-Book-1.jpg 633w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-with-MacDonald-Vs-Cofnas-Culture-of-Critique-Book-1-600x850.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 633px) 100vw, 633px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I’ve never read those books all the way through. But I’ve read the whole chapter on immigration, the chapter on, I think it was the Frankfurt School, he goes into. And there’s another one, Freud.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">A lot of that I really dug into when I was doing the White Network podcasts. I was basically digging in-depth into every subject that was related to race and jews, for two, almost three years, I think. Every week, to put together a thirty minute summary of what I had learned.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford010"></a>Jewish Crypsis and Parasitism</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, you know, you were in one of those as well, probably around the middle of the body of podcasts that I did. I did a whole series on jewish crypsis. Which was inspired largely, &#8230; That’s one of the main things that I got from MacDonald, besides the jewish intellectual movements, was this idea of “<em>crypsis</em>”. Which I had never heard of before, but which fit into their behavior, and explained to me, &#8230; What I saw it was, was an element of what I later realized was “<em>parasitism</em>”. That it’s really the best way “<em>biologically</em>” to describe the relationship between jews and Whites is “<em>parasitism</em>”. They’re the parasites, and we’re the hosts.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[18:15]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford011"></a>On Finding Support</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> How did you find support during your journey into the JQ? Did you find it online, did you find it in real life?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I didn’t need any support. I didn’t feel the need for any support. I was basically curious about these things, curious enough to start blogging, and then, once I started blogging, I just kept following the bread crumbs back to where they led. I followed the dots. I connected the dots. And there were several places, I’ve already mentioned Auster, and Sailer, and there was a forum called “<em>Majority Rights</em>” that was important to me for a while. There were a group of people there that I thought were speaking the truth. They were, you know, arguing with each other, but that’s where a lot of Kevin MacDonald’s work and Lawrence Auster were criticized.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Think that’s pretty much it. Other than my own blog. And I had people coming to my blog criticizing me, and I would answer them. And I would, you know, do more research. I was a blogger for a long time, for several years, before I ever started podcasting, and now I’ve gone back to being more of a blogger than a podcaster.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[19:32]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford012"></a>How Your Work Differs from Others</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So there are a lot of Alt-Right blogs, and there are a lot of JQ writings on-line. Could you tell me about the things that distinguish your work?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I don’t know. I lot of people have complimented me and said that I really “<em>get it</em>”, and that they don’t know of anyone who does a deeper, better job of it. And I’m proud of that. I like, &#8230; I’m pretty thorough, and I also think I’m pretty reasonable, maybe too reasonable. In fact, my criticism, and I have criticism for other people who have worked on this problem, is and for my race as a whole, is that we’ve been too reasonable! We’ve been too fair-minded!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I try not to do that. I try not to be fair-minded. I try to be partisan. I take the side of White people, unashamedly, unabashedly, and unreservedly! Without any, you know, I’m not put off by people who call me names, or try to question my sanity, or call me stupid, or whatever.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The typical academic type, and I think of <strong>Kevin MacDonald</strong>, and <strong>Andrew Joyce</strong> as the two premier academic critics of jews. They seem, well,</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> I don’t to be too critical, because they have been very, very good! They are good. And their work is very, very, solid! But, at a certain point and intellect, somebody who puts stock in being seen, as somebody who’s, you know, smart, and intelligent, and makes well-reasoned arguments, I think puts too much stock in that. And so they are a little bit too affected by critics who try to get at them that way. That try to erode their confidence. And I think Andrew Joyce, in particular, has made great strides. He’s now much more of a “<em>shit-lord</em>”, at least on Twitter. And has taken more of a fighting attitude.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And MacDonald’s has moved along in the last few years and become more serious. Although even recently with this Cofnas thing, my criticism of him, is that he seemed a little too willing to — this has to do with his academic attitude and identity — of playing the game the way the jews want to play it.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford013"></a>An Existential Threat</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I’m not interested in playing the game. I’m interested in identifying the game that they’re playing! Calling it out, exposing it for what it is. And that it’s not really a game. To call it a game is wrong, because as I said, earlier on, it’s an existential threat! It’s a problem. It’s not a game, it’s not a question. And so, what I do, the work I do, the research I do, the summaries I provide of what I’ve learned, are aimed at White people to try and jump White people ahead of where I started. And to wake them up. To give them the information that they need.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And for that, I value what MacDonald did, even though I’m not an academic and I wouldn’t taken his approach, and I wouldn’t phrase certain things the way he does. His work is great, because of the way he did it. So I can respect it. But I can’t be that. I don’t think we necessarily need more academic work. Because it’s not a question, anymore. The question has pretty much been resolved. Every day you can go on Twitter and you can see the jewish journalists talking to each other in a way that we couldn’t see before, where they were able to talk privately. And now it’s in our face every day.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[23:54]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford014"></a>Mein Kampf and National Socialism</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Do you differ in any way from the ideological foundations of <em><strong>Mein Kampf</strong></em>?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Well, I can’t say that, because I don’t know what the full thing is. I don’t understand entirely, the entirety of National Socialism. But from what I understand of National Socialism, I think Hitler was right. I think the National Socialists were right. And although the situation has changed since then, so there may be some things on which, you know, they’ve been proven insufficient, or that they didn’t address, or whatever that might have to be addressed. But in every experience that I’ve had in reading what is available to read of them — and this is another problem is that some of it was destroyed deliberately. It was obscured. So we’ll never really know what they, what it was all about.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Hitler-A-Short-Sketch-557-Cover-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-26371 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Hitler-A-Short-Sketch-557-Cover-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="592" height="843" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/06/23/adolf-hitler-a-short-sketch-of-his-life-part-1/">A Short Sketch of His Life</a>.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But from what I’ve looked into about it, they were definitely doing the right thing, the right way. And I don’t fault them for anything. <strong>Hitler did nothing wrong!</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Ford bursts out laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I don’t mean that ironically. I mean, that utterly soberly.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford: </strong><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[happily amused]</strong></span> You know what is really cool about talking to you? You don’t use irony!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I hate sarcasm and irony.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah! Yeah. It just makes, just makes it so much easier, just to talk to you. I mean, you’re not playing any games.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No I’m not.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford015"></a>Jewish Crypsis — Spain and Portugal</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, talk to me about “<em>crypsis</em>” and why this is a problem for White people.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Well it’s very important.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Crypsis is an indication of bad faith. Crypsis is the, just to describe it for people might not have heard of it before. It’s a biological thing, where a predator, or a parasite, will use camouflage to disguise themselves, in order to give them an advantage they may not otherwise have, over an organism that’s bigger, stronger, or has some other advantage. So crypsis is a tactic of warfare, or of competition, of biological competition.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the jewish crypsis that MacDonald introduced me to was basically things like in Spain when there was the Reconquista* and the jews were compelled — I’m skipping a lot of history here — but they were compelled by the Spaniards who had reconquered their territory, to either convert to Christianity, or get out!</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* The Reconquista (Spanish and Portuguese for the “<em>reconquest</em>”) is a name used to describe the period in the history of the Iberian Peninsula of about 780 years between the Umayyad conquest of Hispania in 711 and the fall of the Nasrid kingdom of Granada to the expanding Christian kingdoms in 1492. The Reconquista was completed just before the Spanish discovery of the Americas—the “<em>New World</em>”—which ushered in the era of the Spanish and Portuguese colonial empires.<br />
<strong>Source</strong>:https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista]</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Probably equal numbers of them left, or converted to Christianity. But the conversion was insincere, as it had to be. Because, you know, jewishness is not what’s in your head so much, as it is what’s in your genes. It’s a biological, genetic trait. It’s not purely a religion. The religion comes into it, but it’s a amplifying effect. A reinforcing effect. It’s an adaptive, it’s a jewish “<em>survival strategy</em>” in Kevin MacDonald’s terms.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But in Spain — and what I found out is that this has happened many times, in many different places — those jews who had converted, they remained jews, they remained aware themselves as jews, they maintained their rituals, and they married within other <strong>[jews]</strong>. They were called “<em>Marrano</em>”*, those new Christians. Crypto jews. And this had a dramatic impact on how the New World unfolded. Especially south, in central and southern America.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Marranos, now considered an offensive term for which the academic term “<em>crypto-Jews</em>” substitutes, were jews living in Iberia who converted, or were forced to convert to Christianity yet continued to practice Judaism in secret. The term specifically refers to the accusation of Crypto-Judaism, whereas the term converso was used for the wider population of jewish converts to Catholicism whether, or not they secretly still practised jewish rites. Converts from both Judaism, or Islam were referred to by the even broader term “<em>New Christians</em>”.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">The term “<em>marrano</em>” came into later use in 1492 with the Castilian Alhambra Decree, which outlawed the practice of Judaism in Spain and required all remaining jews to convert, or leave. By then, the large majority of jews in Spain had converted to Catholicism and conversos numbered hundreds of thousands. They remained under the watchful eye of the Spanish Inquisition subject to suspicions of secret practice of Judaism by formal Catholics, also known as “<em>Marranism</em>”.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;"> Source: https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano]</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There were times when “<em>Portuguese</em>” was a sort of slang term for “<em>jew</em>”, because there were so many Portuguese jews who had converted to Christianity and tried — basically didn’t like having to pretend, so they wanted to go to the New World, where they wouldn’t have to pretend. But although even there, they were still compelled to a certain extent, to pretend that they were Christians. This insincerity was noticed by the Christians. And this is something when you read jewish sources about all of this history that I’m recounting, it’s entirely from a jewish sympathetic point of view. That the poor jews were compelled to either leave, or convert.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the fact is, that they could have left, if they really wanted to be honest about it. But they saw the advantage of sticking around, even to the point of having to pretend to be something that they weren’t. And that is really the crux of it! That this crypsis that jews do, it’s multifaceted, and it has to do with them not really wanting to change who they are, but wanting other people to think that they’re not jews!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford016"></a>Jewish Crypsis — Today</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So in modern-day times, it’s things like, changing their name to something that doesn’t sound jewish. Getting plastic surgery, so that they don’t have the identifiably jewish face. Things like that. Not telling people that they’re jewish. This is very important, because when you, well from a very simple point of view, if you have a competition, you have two teams. And one team has players on the other team! And the other team doesn’t know it! Who do you think is going to win the competition? Who’s going to win the game?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">This is very bad for Whites! And this is throughout history. I mean, when you’re talking in this debate between MacDonald and Cofnas about the harm that the jews have caused Whites, we don’t even know the half of it!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because, an unknown amount of it was done without even being attributable to the jews! We don’t even know! And that’s part of what MacDonald’s “<strong><em>Culture of Critique</em></strong>” the third volume in the series. He focuses on this very damaging, very recent, in the last century, these aggressive movements that were identifiably jewish. But they were kind of playing games with identity. They were trying not to be identifiably jewish. They weren’t wearing their jewishness on their sleeves.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford017"></a>“In Your Face” jews, and “Down-low” jews</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I distinguish between jews, two different branches of jews. I call them the “<em>in your face jews</em>” who openly identify themselves as jews. And then there’s the “<em>down-low jews</em>” that are basically engaging in crypsis, in one form, or another. They’re trying to pretend that they’re not jews. And there’s other facets, other ways you can see distinctions between jews, but that’s sort of one dimension of it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as an example you’ve got an organization like the ADL, which is “<em>in your face jews</em>”. Being jews, openly jews, and openly jewing! What they’re doing is openly pursuing jewish interests. But then you’ve got groups like the SPLC, that are supposedly not a jewish organization. They don’t identify themselves openly as jews. But they get a lot of their funding from jews. They get a lot of support from jews. They get support from the jewish media. And there are a lot of jews on the staff. So they follow basically the guide, or the line set down by the ADL.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s the other thing, to mention the ADL and the SPLC, is that jews organize as a group. And</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[have]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">many, many, organizations. Whereas Whites have been brow beaten into thinking that’s basically bad! That’s racist! That’s being a Nazi! To organize, to even think about your own group and what’s best for your group is wrong!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford018"></a>Ford’s Critique of Critics of jews</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Let me bounce off you my criticism of critics of jews, and you tell me if there’s any value in my critique.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Sure.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> My critique of “<strong><em>Mein Kampf</em></strong>”, and probably most of the Alt-Right’s reaction to jews, is that they simple mindedly want a “<em>magic key</em>” to unlock history! So Hitler wanted a magic key to unlocking history! He thought he found it in jewish perfidity*, so he attributed Germany’s loss in World War one to the jews! For which there’s very little in empirical evidence. And so, most criticism of jews is that kind of simple-minded, conspiracy mongering. You know, what’s the “<em>magic key</em>” to unlock history, which is a childish desire that we can do a shortcut on understanding how the world works.</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://en.rightpedia.info/w/Backstabbing_of_World_War_I">Backstabbing of World War I</a></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">The Backstabbing of World War I refers to the series of events which took place pertaining to Jewry and Germany during the First World War. It is commonly referred to in Jewish propaganda as the &#8220;Stab-in-the-back myth&#8221; (German: Dolchstoßlegende). Jews had encouraged and financed Prussian participation in the war, primarily as a means to destroy Russia which was then under Tsar Nicholas II and to insert Bolshevism in that country. Once the Russians had been defeated and signed the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, more Imperial German Army troops were freed up for the Western Front, with victory in sight, organised Jewry bribed the British Empire to turn the tide.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">Source: https://en.rightpedia.info/w/Backstabbing_of_World_War_I]</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> It isn’t childish at all!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford019"></a>Tan’s Response</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> There’s a principle called “<em>Ockham’s Razor</em>”. There’s a principle of science that sometimes critiqued, or criticised for being reductionist. That’s a term I’ve often heard applied to biology generally, or people who believe in science, or, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But there’s no nothing childish about wanting to understand what is really the most important thing about a complex world. It’s one thing to, … And I consider myself a realistic person. I look at reality as it really exists. I’m not running away from complexity, but I am trying to identify what is really the power structure here? What is really going on here? And is it possible for it to happen?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And a lot of times, I’m led to investigate something, or I was curious about something, because it seemed impossible! It seemed, the analogy that I often think of, is like a boulder just floating in mid-air! Which doesn’t comport with how I understand reality is supposed to work! And when you see a boulder floating mid-air, or rolling uphill, there must be some force. Maybe that you don’t see. Some string holding up the boulder, or pushing it up the hill! But my goal has always been to find those forces and identify them. And this goes hand in hand with the jews trying to disguise what they do. It’s not an oversimplification to say, “<em>It’s the jews!</em>” Most of the time it’s true! The jews have a role in what’s going on.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford020"></a>Complicating Things as jewish Camouflage</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, you know, Ken MacDonald uses the phrase, something like it’s a “<em>necessary condition</em>”. Which is kind of for mathematics. This distinction between “<em>necessary</em>” and “<em>sufficient</em>” conditions. But in plain English, sometimes things really are actually simple. And in the case of the jews they oftentimes try to make things more complicated than they are. They make things appear more complicated than they really are! They obfuscate. It’s part of the camouflage, it’s part of the crypsis to confuse the goyim.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford021"></a>Jewish Gaslighting</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then this is where “<a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://age-of-treason.com/2015/02/17/gaslighting/"><em>gaslighting</em></a>” * comes in. The psychological effect of basically telling people:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>You’re crazy! The jews don’t have anything to do with this!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It makes you question your own sanity. And that again is another, to me, it’s an indication of bad faith! They are not being honest!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* <b>Gaslighting</b> is a form of manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or members of a group, hoping to make targets question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, it attempts to destabilize the target and delegitimize the target’s belief.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">Instances may range from the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred up to the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim. The term owes its origin to a 1938 play <strong><i>Gas Light</i></strong> and its 1944 film adaptation. The term has been used in clinical and research literature, as well as in political commentary.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">The term originates in the systematic psychological manipulation of a victim by the main character in the 1938 stage play <strong><i>Gas Light</i></strong>, known as <strong><i>Angel Street</i></strong> in the United States, and the film adaptations released in 1940 and 1944.In the story, a husband attempts to convince his wife and others that she is insane by manipulating small elements of their environment and insisting that she is mistaken, remembering things incorrectly, or delusional when she points out these changes. The original title stems from the dimming of the gas lights in the house that happened when the husband was using the gas lights in the attic while searching for hidden treasure. The wife accurately notices the dimming lights and discusses the phenomenon, but the husband insists that she just imagined a change in the level of illumination.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">The term “<em>gaslighting</em>” has been used colloquially since the 1960s to describe efforts to manipulate someone’s perception of reality. In a 1980 book on child sexual abuse, Florence Rush summarized George Cukor’s <strong><i>Gaslight</i></strong> (1944) based on the play and wrote, “<em>even today the word [gaslighting] is used to describe an attempt to destroy another’s perception of reality.</em>“</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Source:</strong> <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Also see:</strong> <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://age-of-treason.com/?s=gaslighting">http://age-of-treason.com/?s=gaslighting</a></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford022"></a>Ad Hominem — Cofnas vs MacDonald</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">In this thing with Nathan Cofnas, for instance, they got into a bit of a back and forth on “<em>ad hominem</em>”. MacDonald said I’m not going to address Cofnas’ ad hominem. Cofnas then countered, and said:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh no! Kevin MacDonald is the one committing ad hominem! He called me, he said I’m doing what I’m doing, because I’m a jew!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s important, you know, the fact that he’s a jew is important! And he’s basically trying to obscure that fact, and make it about some technical details, as if Kevin MacDonald did something wrong “<em>technically</em>” with his paper. If Kevin MacDonald had written a paper and had it published in a sociological journal, or had these textbooks considered sociology rather than evolutionary biology, or evolutionary psychology, there would be a lot less grounds for this “<em>scientific criticism</em>” of them, because sociology is all bull shit! It’s all just people’s opinion about what they think about what’s going on.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s mostly jews criticising White people!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know when Whites criticize jews it’s called “<em>anti-semitism</em>”, and when jews criticize Whites it’s called “<em>sociology</em>”, or “<em>psychology</em>”. They’ve set things up such that, they’re the authorities, they’re the experts, and they spew off all kinds of nonsense, all kinds of alternative explanations to keep us confused! And it’s really not so difficult. They are the enemy! It’s that simple! They don’t have our interests in mind. They have their own identity. They play games with:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Who’s White?</em>” “<em>Who’s a jew?</em>” “<em>What does it mean anti-semitism?</em>” “<em>Everything is anti-semitism.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You talk about simplification. Anytime you’re critical of even a single jew, that has anything to do with their jewishness, the defense is:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh, that’s anti-semitism!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They immediately turn it into a group thing! And every criticism of anything, I mean, you criticize Soros, criticize globalists, the jewish organizations come out and call it anti-semitism! Because they realize it is simple! They’ve got to defend! They’ve got to circle the wagons and defend themselves.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So my critique was, I thought it was childish to think that there’s a “<em>magic key</em>” to unlock history. And my summary of your answer now is, it’s not childish, it’s reality.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes. Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> That’s excellent! Yeah I mean, we really just boiled it down right there!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes, sorry I went on so long.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> No, no! It was great! It was great! But I mean, that’s what it comes down to. I see you, not you personally, but your type of critique is childish. You know, there’s a magic key that unlocks history and that magic is jewish perfidity. And you say:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>No Luke! That jewish perfidity, that is real, and it is, if not, … “</em></p></blockquote>
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<p>You’d probably say it is the “<em>key</em>” to unlocking modern history in the Western world. Correct?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I mean, that’s awesome! Like we’ve like boiled it down!</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford023"></a>Jewish Deception and Coverups</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Look, another way of putting it is that you can’t really understand what’s happened for the last two, three thousand years without accounting for what the jews have been up to. And my other point, that I mentioned even before we got into this, is that you can’t account for what the jews are doing, because they try to hide what they’re doing!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s not just the act of hiding that they do, at the time they’re doing it. It’s the “<em>after the fact</em>” hiding. Sometimes they’ll come out and they’ll say:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh yeah! We had a role in this!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The secret jewish role in “<em>Peeps</em>”, was the latest article I saw on a <strong><em>Tablet</em></strong>, or <strong><em>Forward</em></strong>. And the secret jewish role in this, or that, is the kind of article they come up with on a regular basis! Revealing what their secret machinations were. Long after it’s safe to do that. But just as often they omit it from history. They blot it out, so that it’s never discussed. Their role in slavery, for instance, is one of those things that has been mostly blotted out.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford024"></a>Cofnas’ Critique and Your Respect for MacDonald</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I’m thinking for a second.</p>
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<p>Was your respect for Kevin MacDonald at all diminished by the Cofnas critique?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No! Not at all! It was raised! I thought his response was a bit wordy but then again he was trying to respond in academic fashion to a supposedly academic critique of his work, of his academic works. So he was staying in character. And he ultimately, I saw when he was talking to you, he realized that there was no substance to Cofnas’ critique. And so, he gets it. He knows.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I just wonder sometimes, some of the things he says, that whether he even understands the depth of what his own work implies? You know, I think have reduced it, or called it “<em>an indictment of the jews</em>” an “<em>indictment of jewing</em>”. He’s done a thorough job of documenting, quite enough. I mean, there’s plenty more that you could dig into in a similar fashion, and write book, after book, after book, about the things that they’ve been involved with — in the same fashion that a <strong>MacDonald</strong>, or <strong>Joyce</strong>  <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Andrew Joyce, a contributor to <span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;<a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/"><em>The Occidental Observer</em></a>&#8220;</span>]</strong> </span>would do. But at a certain point you don’t need to see any more of it! That’s why I never felt compelled that I had to read all three of his volumes, cover to cover. I read enough of it. Okay, I get it! I understand this.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford025"></a>Cofnas — MacDonald’s Evidence is Counter-evidence</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, it doesn’t bother you that Cofnas shows that the examples that MacDonald used to exemplify his Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy, were actually counter examples?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No. I didn’t think that they were counterexamples. I thought it was, first of all, he was trying to disprove something, a large number of examples that demonstrated basically a rule, by citing some exceptions to the rule. Rather than providing his own exhaustive list of counterexamples, which would have been a better way to go about it, if he was actually sincere in what he was trying to do.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I thought, basically, his critique was: Here are some jews that I think aren’t jewing as well as I think, or the way I think, that they should be jewing! And so therefore that counters what Kevin MacDonald thinks about jewing, what he documented about jewing. It was a very weak, lame argument, from my point of view.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’m biased, and unapologetically biased in favor of Whites! I think that, you know, MacDonald comes at it from a kind of “<em>above it all</em>” academic, you know, I’m going to be objective about this, I’m going to write a book. His first book about how the jews do their jewing. And I’m going to write a book about what the European reaction to that jewing was — “<em>anti-semitism</em>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[42:56]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I don’t like the fact that throughout that volume he uses the term “<em>anti-semitism</em>” un-ironically, without, apparently, any awareness of the built-in anti-White, anti-European meaning that it’s loaded with. And then he wrote a third book where he basically laid it out as — in what I think is closer to the real partisan point of view of — these jews are warring on us! And he gave examples of these jewish intellectual movements that have been doing this in the past century, and that it predates “<strong><em>Mein Kampf</em></strong>”, it predates the rise of National Socialists in Germany.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rethinking-Mein-Kampf-COVER-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-26043 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rethinking-Mein-Kampf-COVER-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="715" height="1058" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rethinking-Mein-Kampf-COVER-Ver-2.jpg 715w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rethinking-Mein-Kampf-COVER-Ver-2-600x888.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rethinking-Mein-Kampf-COVER-Ver-2-692x1024.jpg 692w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 715px) 100vw, 715px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/02/29/rethinking-mein-kampf-by-thomas-dalton/">Rethinking Mein Kampf by Thomas Dalton</a>.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So you could you find any factual errors in what Nathan Cofnas wrote?</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford026"></a>Any Factual Errors in Cofnas’ Work?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Factual errors? No, I didn’t have any factual errors that I found. Let me see, I wrote some notes here about the argument itself. You know, I went into lots of different points about his argument, my own critique of his critique.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Let’s see, I’ll just go through them here from the beginning.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, what I thought with the basic structure of Cofnas’ complaint was, that MacDonald is biased himself. And that he made mistakes, he made “<em>scientificky</em>” mistakes, and these logical mistakes, supposedly. The “<em>cherry picking</em>” and the, what was the other phrase that he used? I can’t recall now. I’ll get to it further down in the list here. “<em>cherry picking</em>” and “<em>misrepresentation</em>”. That he misrepresented sources.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Okay, but basically it all amounted to, he was trying to excuse the jews, Cofnas’ was. And he was trying to blame Kevin MacDonald for being biased and being a bad person, for even making these books critical of jews.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Can I stop you right there?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yeah, sure.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford027"></a>Cofnas Calls MacDonald a “Bad Person”?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Thank you. Okay you just said he tried to accuse Kevin MacDonald of being a bad person. Can you read to me, or reference me where Cofnas does that, because I believe that your accusation is completely false.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> It was more of an implication, than it was an outright, spelled out, accusation against MacDonald. It was in the way he phrased things. It was in the pieces that I snipped out and quoted in my blog post on it. I’m scrolling now to see it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The terms like “<em>cherry picking</em>”, “<em>misrepresenting sources</em>”. And that he said that was, … he used a modifier and said, … made it sound like that’s all Kevin MacDonald’s work was! That he cited a few things that he said were the those things. But then he basically used that as an excuse to say that the whole work was that. And it wasn’t just that his original critique it was the Quilette piece that he did, that published it about the same time. It was in some of his statements he need to you then, on the podcast.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, you said that Nathan Cofnas accused MacDonald of being a “<em>bad person</em>”, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I asked you for something to back that up, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yeah, let me read, …</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> … and you got to be honest, there is nothing in what Cofnas has written that says MacDonald’s a “<em>bad person</em>”. It says he does “<em>bad scholarship</em>”.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> That’s my interpretation of it. That’s my characterization of it.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Well no, you can’t, … you need to, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Sure I can!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Here’s a sentence toward the end of his conclusion. He says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>But misrepresenting sources and distorting history are not part of the methods of evolutionary psychology, or any other legitimate academic discipline.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He was implying with that, that Kevin MacDonald is not doing legitimate academic work. That he’s not a good evolutionary psychologist. And that his work is all about misrepresenting sources and distorting history! And that is, what I think Kevin MacDonald himself was referring to, when he said that was what he meant by Cofnas making ad hominem. And that was the part he was going to ignore in his own response to Cofnas.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. I’m just going to boil down, in my own words, a synthesis of what I think you just said in response to my challenge. My understanding of your synthesis is that if one person criticizes a scholar for doing bad scholarship, they’re saying that, that scholar is a bad person. And I just think that’s a completely absurd accusation!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No! I think between academics that actually respect each other, and that are actually trying to do good academic work, that they are a lot more circumspect than Cofnas was. That they don’t just provide a couple of examples, and then say things, sweeping things, like he said. That MacDonald was misrepresenting sources and distorting history. They leave it for the reader to come to that conclusion on their own. They might hint at it. They are more circumspect.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s partly why I’m not an academic, and I don’t take an academic approach, because I can’t control myself like that. I just want to say what I think about it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now MacDonald himself characterized it as “<em>ad hominem</em>”. That’s all I’m saying, is that it’s an attack against MacDonald. And I think it was an attack. MacDonald used the term properly, that it was basically an attempt to distract from the argument and focus it instead on the man. That the man himself did bad science, that was Cofnas’ basic claim!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Do you want to walk back your claim that Cofnas accused MacDonald of bing a bad person?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> He didn’t literally say MacDonald is a bad person! But that was the thrust of his critique! Yeah, I stand by that.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford: </strong><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[in a tone of disbelief]</strong></span> The thrust of the Nathan Cofnas’ critique is that Kevin MacDonald is a bad person!?</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford028"></a>Jews “Didn’t Du Nuffin!”</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes! And that the jews “<em>didn’t du nuffin</em>”! Yeah! That’s what I wrote in my blog post and I stand by that.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> From a twenty thousand foot level, that’s basically what was going on, from my point of view.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford029"></a>Ford — So Criticism of Scholarship is a Personal Attack?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, from your point of view you can never criticize a scholar for making mistakes in a scholarship, without “<em>that is a personal attack</em>”? There’s just no separation? You criticize someones scholarship, that’s a personal attack.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> It’s kind of interesting why you generalize it to any criticism of any scholar, any academic That’s not what I’m saying. I’m talking about this case of Cofnas versus MacDonald, That’s all I’m talking about. Not academics in general. And I think that’s what happened.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I think when you criticize jews, generally the response is “<em>Oh! That’s anti-semitism!</em>” and that’s the end of the discussion! There is no Cofnas thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now Cofnas is trying to follow the right channels, or at least put on the right appearance, that he’s making an academic critique of an academic work. And so he’s been very careful not to just screech “<em>anti-semitism</em>” about everything. And he’s been careful not to just say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well, Kevin MacDonald is a stupid, crazy, evil monster, who wants to gas six million jews!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He’s been careful not to do that. But it’s been a very careful thing that he’s done. And it shows. He is actually concerned about “<em>anti-semitism</em>”! He’s concerned about “<em>what’s best for the jews</em>”. And that’s what gets lost in this debate. The way I summarize it, from the twenty thousand foot level, is what’s really important about this. It’s a guy who says in his own paper. In the introduction. That he’s doing this, because he’s concerned about the negative consequences of not having been done yet!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford030"></a>Cofnas — Worried About MacDonald’s Work</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what are those negative consequences? It’s implied that there are negative consequences for jews! It’s resulting in, … MacDonald’s work appeals to “<em>anti-semites</em>”! What’s an “<em>anti-semite</em>”? Everybody just knows that it’s somebody that the jews don’t like! It’s painted as the opposite by the jews, that it’s somebody for irrational reasons, for childish reasons, hates the jews! And thinks that they will solve all the problems of the world if they just get rid of all the jews!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But that’s not exactly what’s going on. The main conflict, I thinks between the point of view! It’s not something you can just stand above and outside, and look at it objectively. White people, if they’ve done anything wrong the last two, three thousand years, it’s been to not take their side hard enough! And to allow the jews to take their own side to the detriment of Whites. And that’s something that, I’m not going to make that mistake!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford031"></a>Cofnas Doesn’t Prove His Case</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, so I read your blog post on Cofnas, and I asked you again tonight. You don’t have any factual errors in your critique.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes. Well here it is in the Quilette piece further on toward the bottom of my blog post. And to I get into more criticisms of Cofnas’ attack in the comments. But, just in the opening salvo, I said, I pointed out his conclusion toward the end of his “<em>What the Alt-Right gets wrong about the jews</em>” piece. He says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>We don’t think MacDonald will be able to rescue his hypothesis. Built as it is on misrepresented sources and distortions.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He didn’t prove that case. He didn’t even come close! And MacDonald got upset about this too, because he was just exasperated that the Cofnas had provided just a handful of examples and then declared, basically, all of his work “<em>null and void</em>”.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford032"></a>Ford — Does Cofnas Screech “Anti-semitism”?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, You said a couple minutes ago that Cofnas did not just “<em>screech anti-semitism</em>”. Okay, is there anywhere where Cofnas “<em>screeches anti-semitism</em>”?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I think it was in the original piece.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, in your original piece you’re saying he’s “<em>screeching anti-semitism</em>”</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No he doesn’t! I said he doesn’t “<em>screech anti-semitism</em>”!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> You said he doesn’t, … he could not just “<em>screech anti-semitism</em>”. So you’re saying he doesn’t “<em>screech</em>” at all?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> He does appeal to the term “<em>anti-semitism</em>”. He includes them in his papers.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> And does he accuse Kevin MacDonald of “<em>anti-semitism</em>”?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No, not directly.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No, he does it indirectly by saying that what Kevin MacDonald writes, appeals to “<em>anti-semites</em>”. That it’s popular with “<em>anti-semites</em>”. And it begs the question, you know, what the hell is an “<em>anti-semite</em>”? And why are “<em>anti-semites</em>” like inherently wrong? What’s wrong with that? What’s wrong with being critical of jews? What’s wrong with opposing the jews for wanting to kill your people?</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford033"></a>I Always Write “Anti-semitism” with Sneer Quotes</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, Cofnas doesn’t, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No he doesn’t. But that is all packed into the word “<em>anti-semitism</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I always write the word “<em>anti-semitism</em>” with sneer quotes around, because I don’t accept the jewish definition of that term! I don’t accept that term! It’s just another word for jewing! It’s their word for when people react negatively to their jewing! They go “<em>Oy Vey! Anti-semitism!</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they expect, … it’s a two-pronged thing. It’s like a calling out for their own tribe to come and target this person. And it’s also serves, and I don’t think they intended to do this, but it has served, as basically, as a Pavlovian signal to the people so targeted, they start shaking in their boots, because they know what it means! Once you’re called an “<em>anti-semite</em>” your career is over! Generally. And that’s why people like me don’t even come out. And use my real name, you know. I don’t want to lose my job. But I do want to oppose this!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So are there any logical errors in Cofnas’ critique? And if you’re were just to pick one, which one would you, …?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I said no. Well actually, you know, that’s not quite right. “<em>Logically</em>” I did accuse him of a lie further on, having to do with the ad hominem thing. Let me see if I can scroll down to that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah, Cofnas says:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>I never made any ad hominem attack.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And you say that’s a lie. So on what basis do you say that’s a lie? Well, I guess you’ve already answered that so people can decide for themselves.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> People can read, … I urge people to read my blog post and the many comments that I made afterwards. He is maybe a strong word, because it implies that he is consciously telling an untruth and knowing it is. But, I’m not going to be charitable with jews.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford034"></a>Whites Have Not Taken Their Own Side Hard Enough</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> You said a little earlier:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>White people, if they have done anything wrong, it’s they haven’t taken their own side hard enough.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Is that accurate?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes! Yes.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford035"></a>You are Arguing Like a jew, Luke!</span></strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So basically, you’re saying White people are the one people in the world who haven’t done anything wrong, beside from not taking their side hard enough?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Luke! I can’t understand how you can argue so well like a jew, since you’re not biologically a jew! That is how jews argue! If you argue that Whites are not one hundred percent responsible for what’s going on, it’s like, “<em>well you think the jews are one hundred percent responsible!</em>” It’s like, all, or nothing!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that serves them very well, actually. That they don’t take any shit whatsoever! No criticism, whatsoever, is tolerable to them! And good for them! That’s the way, that’s adaptive behavior, from a biological point of view, at least until the point they piss people off that won’t take that any more!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, no! You’re putting words in my mouth!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[56:33]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> No, no, wait! You didn’t say that White people, if they have done anything wrong, they haven’t sufficiently taken their own side?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> That’s my main criticism of Whites as a group. Yeah, historically speaking.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So I didn’t invent your words? I accurately quoted back your words.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No! You said that it implies somehow that I think that White people aren’t to blame for anything.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I don’t remember the exact words you said, but, ..</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> You don’t think White people are to blame for anything?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I don’t know how you can take a statement where I’m saying that I think White people have done something wrong, and say that I don’t blame White people for anything.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I said, “<em>aside from not taking their own side sufficiently</em>”.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes. Well there’s probably other things that they’ve done wrong too! , but that’s the main thing vis-a-vis jews. When it has to do with the jews, and the existential threat that the jews pose, yeah! Not recognizing that existential threat and doing something about it, yeah, that’s the big mistake! It’s going to be an existential mistake, the way things are shaping up.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[57:34]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The lie, by the way, just to go back, because I think it’s important. It has to do with this ad hominem thing, and the fact that when he came on with you Cofnas, what Cofnas described as an ad hominem, was the fact that MacDonald, toward the end of his response, had noted that Cofnas was basically behaving like a jew. That he was doing “<em>cognitive group, conscious cognitive thinking</em>”, or something. I forget what the term was exactly. But then Cofnas turned around, and said “<em>that’s ad hominem!</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">No! First of all that’s something he admitted himself! That his attitude about MacDonald, and his work, changed. He originally had an a positive attitude, and this is when he was talking to you, and then when he became more involved with Judaism and the jewish community, as he put it, that’s when his attitude changed. Because, according to him, he said, “<em>then he saw that it was different</em>”, or that it didn’t agree with the way MacDonald described things.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the second way it was a lie, I say, to call it “<em>ad hominem</em>” is that’s what MacDonald’s work is all about! Is understanding jew psychology, and understanding jew tactics, and strategy, and what they do! How they do it!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, you know, pointing to that and saying it’s “<em>ad hominem</em>”, as if MacDonald is trying to distract from the argument by calling attention to Cofnas’ jewishness, no! It’s Cofnas that’s trying to escape attention as a jew! That, what he’s doing as a jew fits the very thing that MacDonald has been writing about!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[59:05]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford036"></a>Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy</span></strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Is Judaism a “<em>group evolutionary strategy</em>”?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> What does that mean?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> It means it’s an adaptive thing that they do. That help them survive. Helps them thrive. And there’s many other examples.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford037"></a>Jews Marrying Non-jews</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, so in the United States, at least sixty percent of jews are marrying non-jews. Is that part of their “<em>group evolutionary strategy</em>”?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> In a way it is. First of all, I think I’ve actually blogged on this Pew poll that I think that number is based on. And that’s the jew spin on the poll, that “<em>Oh Vey</em>”, you know, jews are marrying out. The jews are going to disappear, it’s a second “<em>Holocaust</em>”!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what they gloss over is the fact that jews are not going to disappear, because there’s all these ultra orthodox jews that have lots and lots of kids. So for every jew that’s marrying out, there’s three jews that are Orthodox jews, that are the jewishy jews, the most conscious jews of their jewishness.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[60:11]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it also goes to this point I made earlier about there’s two kinds of jews. And they work together. They’re maybe not consciously, or directly linked to each other, but their actions reinforce each other. And that is, the jews that are marrying out tend to be these “<em>down-low jews</em>”. The jews who are in one way, or another, moving away from the core of the jewishy jews, of the ultra orthodox, Haradim jews.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Who are going the opposite direction which is, you know, basically insulating themselves from everyone else. But this is the basic mechanics of their form of parasitism. That the jews that marry out, they don’t forget that they’re jews, they don’t totally leave behind their jewishness. It informs their politics, and what they do in the world, and what they tend to do in the world. And White racialists have known, have recognized this for a long time. Is that somebody who’s part jewish tends to take the jew side in any sort of conflict. They side with the jews, they argue in favor of the jews, and they generally tend to undermine Whites who are trying to stay White and do things the White way.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s the effect of this marrying out that, you know, you’re deploring from a jewish point of view, that it means the jews are going to go extinct in time, when it’s not, because there’s plenty of jews who don’t marry out. And the second thing is the great harm that it causes. Every jew that marries out into the non jew world becomes an agent for jewry, and then redirects resources from the non jew world toward the jews, that are staying jews.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford038"></a>Ford — So Anything jews Do is Group Evolutionary Strategy?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So jews marry out as part of the group evolutionary strategy, and if jews marry in, it’s part of the group evolutionary strategy. So whatever the jews do, it’s just part of this group evolutionary strategy?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes, this is the kind of, … talk about simplistic childish arguments. The jews do it all! Yeah! And I’m criticizing both aspects of it and explaining how it works together in favor of the jews as a group.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And you’re saying, oh that somehow I’m being silly, because I’m basically, that I’m making a tautology out of it. No matter what the jews do it’s wrong! Well in a sense that’s actually right! Whatever the jews do, because they’re a distinct group of people and they see Whites as their enemy, they’re a parasitic group and that they harm my group. Yeah! Everything that the jews do is wrong! No matter what they do.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[62:50]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Ford starts laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">A jew can kill themselves and I’m going to say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Yeah they were just doing that to get sympathy, or something!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I could find some way to figure how it is best for the jews. Now I want you to admit something here! And this is one of the key things about the Cofnas thing that was lost in the scuffle between the two of them. Is this “<em>good for the jews thing</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Humor-Muh-Holocaust-jew-on-bike.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-26373 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Humor-Muh-Holocaust-jew-on-bike.jpg" alt="" width="304" height="433" /></a></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford039"></a>Jews Always Arguing About What’s Best for the Jews!</span></strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That underneath, … the way I put it, is I take these this these two jewish sayings that, you know, “<em>two jews, three opinions!</em>” and I say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Two jews, three opinions about what’s best for the jews!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s the key! They are arguing with each other and taking different routes to doing things, but it’s always with the underlying idea that it’s best for the jews. They’ll have knockdown, drag out, fights with each other about this, or that aspect, of how they should go about their jewing. But in the end, the premise that both sides, or all sides, of the jewish argument have, all the different facets of their jewing, is what’s best for the jews?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Zionist jews are saying;</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>This is what’s best for the jews!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The anti-Zionist jews are saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>No! No! This is what’s best for the jews!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The communist jews are saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>This is what’s best for the jews!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The anti-communist jews, the same thing! I mean, that’s what’s at the root, and that’s how you understand what the jews are doing! And to reduce that down to:</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[in a mocking whiny jew tone of voice]</strong></span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well you’re just criticizing the jews, no matter what they do! If they say black, or if they say White, whatever, …</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, it is that simple! But it’s not, because I’m crazy! It’s not, because I’m imagining things. I’m explaining to you that’s what’s going on. They explain it! They use this phrase, one of the <a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://jewishjournal.com/uncategorized/17450/">articles</a> about you is:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://jewishjournal.com/uncategorized/17450/"><em>Is Luke Ford Good for the jews?</em></a>” This is not some phrase that Hitler invented! This is not some phrase that “<em>anti-semites</em>” invented. This is the question that they ask themselves! This is the way they justify trying to pursue their interests. It’s a sort of key phrase, that when you see it, it means they’re trying to pursue their interests.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-The-Jewish-Journal-artical-on-him.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-26366" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-The-Jewish-Journal-artical-on-him.jpg" alt="" width="688" height="902" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-The-Jewish-Journal-artical-on-him.jpg 688w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-The-Jewish-Journal-artical-on-him-600x787.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[64:49]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford040"></a>“Jews are Not a Monolith” — A Silly Statement!</span></strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s another key phrase that comes up in this context is “<em>monolith</em>”. “<em>The jews are not a monolith!</em>” is what you constantly hear. And anybody who thinks the jews are a monolith is crazy! , because the jews:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Look! The jews are arguing with each other all the time! There are jews that do the complete opposite of what another group of jews are doing!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, well, but they’re still jews aren’t they? Even the statement “<em>The jews are not a monolith</em>” is a silly statement. Because it’s basically saying this category, this group, “<em>the jews</em>” which implicitly by calling them “<em>the jews</em>” are saying they’re a monolith, is categorically not a category! It’s ridiculous! It’s a ridiculous statement! But people don’t generally take things apart! They don’t look at it that way. I’m a computer programmer. I work on abstractions and solving problems, so I know how to take things, logical statements like that, and reduce them down to the essence of what they’re saying. And I point those things out. And it always surprises me. I say something like that, like:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Jews are not a monolith! Well yeah, the category is not categorically a category and that’s nonsense!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And people go:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Wow! Gee! I never even thought about that!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I sometimes think it’s too simple even to write!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford041"></a>The Root of jewing is: “Is it Good for the jews?”</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, you said a lot there. What was it that you wanted me to admit? I didn’t quite follow.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Admit that at the root of the jewing is: “<em>Is it good for the jews?</em>” This question that all the jews, of all the different stripes, ask each other. And that’s the root of all their debates, is they disagree on what’s best for the jews, which is a fundamental agreement.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> No.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> It appears that they’re not monolithic. It appears that they’re disagreeing with each other. But it’s really just all about, what’s best for themselves as a group.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[66:39]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford042"></a>Culture of Critique’s Chapter 7 on Immigration</span></strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> No. I think that’s ridiculous! And I tell you why. Many people find the most powerful chapter<span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [Chapter 7]</strong></span> in Kevin MacDonald’s “<strong><em>Culture of Critique</em></strong>” is the chapter on immigration.</p>
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<p>And Kevin MacDonald has absolutely no doubt that non-White immigration is a very important threat to, you know, Whites sovereignty in their own lands! As Kevin MacDonald writes in his response to Cofnas:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Ethnic displacement is like reducing an extended family, or other lineage. It’s a drastic loss of fitness! And really no different from displacement on one’s species, or subspecies, by another, in the natural world. This is natural selection in action as the gene frequency, genetic combinations, and bio-culture’s characteristics of other peoples increased relative to those of the indigenous peoples of Western European countries, as well as their descendants in North America, Australia, and New Zealand.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>So, in his response to Nathan Cofnas, Kevin MacDonald is very clear that ethnic displacement is just an absolute disaster for the people being displaced! So, when you have jews who are lobbying for and pushing the displacement of jews in the jew state of Israel, they are doing the very thing that Kevin MacDonald says is a disaster! So, you have all these jewish intellectuals who Kevin MacDonald sites as evidence of Judaism’s group evolutionary strategy, who are promoting Arab immigration to Israel! Who are promoting African immigration to Israel! Who are essentially promoting open borders for Israel! Who are promoting the end of Israel as a jewish state! But they are promoting ethnic displacement, and that is a widespread theme in the jewish left!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Are you saying that they’re doing it, because they want to destroy the jews?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I’m saying that your point doesn’t make any sense, because these left wing jews are pushing the very ethnic displacement that MacDonald says is an absolute disaster for the people being displaced. Jews are pushing the displacement of their own kind, obviously they’re not acting in Jewish interests!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In Kevin MacDonald’s own logic.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> It’s based on the premise that jews and Whites are very similar to each other. Which is wrong. The jews are a people that have lived as a minority amongst other peoples, their whole history. And so even if you were to flood Israel, and jews were to become a minority in Israel, it wouldn’t be a real existential threat to the jews. They’ve lived that way in diaspora forever!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford043"></a>Open Borders for Israel is My Attitude</span></strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they live that way in the United States. So let’s take the United States, which is what I really care about. I don’t give a shit about what happens in Israel! Open borders for Israel is my attitude!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But in the United States, what’s going to happen, is there’s going to be different outcomes. I know Steven Steinlight and his attitude is:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh my God! It’s going to be a disaster! We’re going to a whole bunch of people who are going to believe in the “</em><em>Holocaust</em>”” like the current White Americans do.</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, what’s actually going to happen, is it’s going to lead to the mixing out of the White population of America, in much the same way as happened in Brazil, or any of the former White countries, anywhere. Because Whites don’t have this strong and long history of identifying as a group, and fighting consciously against other groups.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, there was when the country was founded, Whites had a stronger identity when they were conquering the North American continent. But that’s been psychopathologised, and demonized in Whites. And Whites are cowed, whether it will kick in again when the existential threat becomes clear, is, … I think it will eventually, but whether it’s going to be too late, or not, I don’t know. Whites will already be reduced to a small minority by then. And they don’t do well.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford044"></a>Jews Not Threatened in a Multi-ethnic Society</span></strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We’re seeing what’s happening in South Africa with a small White minority. That will not happen to the jews! The jews already run the country. And they’ll continue to run the country, no matter how fractured it becomes ethnically. And, in fact, it’ll become easier for them to run, because they’ll have even more players that they can set at each other. The “<em>let you and him fight</em>” tactic that they use. The “<em>divide and conquer</em>” will become all the easier, because the people are already divided. They’ve imported all sorts of different types of people that they can create strife between.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they’re not threatened in the United States, and I don’t think that they’re threatened in Israel for the same reason. That they’ll still be able to maintain control. They have colonies all over the world, that they can always go to. They’re not threatened, and I don’t give a shit anyway, if they were threatened! But I’m pointing out to you that it’s simplistic, at the very least, you’re being naive to argue as if they are the same as Whites! As if the threat from immigration is the same to jews as it is to Whites. Because it isn’t!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[71:33]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford045"></a>Jews and the Second World War</span></strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, how did the jewish tactic of “<em>divide and conquer</em>” work for them in World War Two?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I think it worked very well! Millions and millions of Europeans killed each other.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> How many jews do you think died in World War Two?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Not enough! And not many. Certainly not the magical six million that they always quote.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> How many would you expect?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I don’t know. I have no idea. But it was nothing </span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[?]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">really.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So you think the jewish strategy really worked really well for them in World War Two?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Let me put it in jewish terms. One jewish life isn’t, or one European, one White life, is not worth a million, six million jewish lives! So I don’t care how many jews died in World War Two. I don’t care!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Awesome!</p>
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<p>I appreciate how open and honest you are. And so, I think you said earlier if jews kill themselves you see that as pursuing jewish interest. Was that sarcastic, was that ironic, or was the how you really feel?</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford046"></a>Being Evidence Based</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No. I think I could actually find literally a way to see how, … Well I would find the evidence. You know, that I’m evidence based. If you’ve ever read my blog, you know, I don’t just make shit up out of nowhere! I find people what people have actually written, I go to pains to quote it. I don’t just write about it, and misrepresent it. I snip it out with context. I give links to what I write, and then I explain, this is the way I see it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I think to the extent I appeal to any of my readers, it’s, because I do that. It’s, because I lay it out very clearly! I’m not just making stuff up.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">In that case I was speculating, that if a jew killed themselves, that I could probably, I would look for evidence that they were doing it for some advantage to the jews, or some way to harm Whites. Yes for sure.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford047"></a>School Shooting in Florida</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because that’s what I do in general with anything that happens. An example is the school shooting in Florida, you know, how the jews, … The first thing I heard about it was that some White supremacist shot up a school in Florida. And that’s all I heard. But when you dig into it you find out the kid is half jewish. At least. The jewish media didn’t report that, except sort of as a detail buried in some other story that portrayed him as a racist.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the other thing about it is that the school is something like forty percent jewish, which explains why the jews were so up in arms about it from the get go! Because they all knew that it was a heavily jewish County, and a heavily jewish school. And the funny thing about that is that less than forty percent of the victims were jewish, but they never talk about that. They just jump to the conclusion right away, there’s a shooting at a school in a jewish area, it’s got to be a White supremacist that did it! They found, some idiot gave them a tip, that turned out to be false. That it was a White supremacist and they ran with it! And for a day that was the what the narrative was in the cycle. They never corrected it. Never paid any price for it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. So that’s the kind of thing I do. I look at what’s going on in the world, what are people excited about, and what’s the jewish angle to it. And if I find a jewish angle I write about it, and I talk about it.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford048"></a>Does MacDonald’s Model Have Predictive Value?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So does the model of judaism as a group evolutionary strategy have predictive value?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Predictive? In a couple of ways, yeah. First of all I think when something happens it’s probably involves the jews. And there’s probably some hidden angle to it that involves the jews. So it’s predictive in that way. It’s predictive in the way I said about immigration. That we kind of know what’s going to happen when the country is flooded with that with non-Whites. It’s not going to harm the jews, they’re used to living that way.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So I just want to point out a couple of ways that you are significantly different from Kevin MacDonald. Kevin MacDonald says explicitly that Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy, does not have any predictive value. And he also says that once intermarriage rates start climbing north of sixty percent, that for those jews who are out-marrying, that’s no longer a model of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy. So, you and Kevin differ.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford049"></a>Jewish Out-Marriage One Half of the Parasitism</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yeah. He’s never made the point, … Yeah, about the out-marriage thing, I don’t know of anybody really who’s looked at it and talked about it the way I have. That it’s actually the other half of the parasitism. That it facilitates, … I reduce the parasitism to “<em>infiltration, manipulation, and exploitation</em>”. And it kind of goes in that sequence. That first the jews infiltrate your society as jews, or maybe in secret. But part of that infiltration is intermarrying with the host population. And they do that maybe not consciously, but it ends up working to their, in fact, and they go to pains to indoctrinate their children not to marry out.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The other remarkable thing about the out-marriage. The stink the jews make about all the out-marriage, is that it’s in spite of the fact that they consciously, explicitly, tell their kids that’s not what they want them to do! They want them to find a good jewish boy, or a good jewish girl, to marry. But despite that, some still marry out. But it still ends up working to their advantage. For the point that I’ve made. That it helps them to infiltrate. It helps them to further manipulate the host population, so that they can exploit the resources of the host population for the benefit of the jews who remain jews!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[77:22]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Right. So, when jews marry out, that’s part of that group evolutionary strategy, and when they marry in, that’s part of their group evolutionary strategy! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Tan starts laughing]</strong></span> When they promote immigration restriction that’s part of their group evolutionary strategy! When they promote immigration expansion, that’s part of their group evolutionary strategy! When they promote the Republican Party, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes! Whatever is good for the jews, Luke. We’ve already covered this. It’s situational. And I think that’s the point that MacDonald was making. I don’t think he said that, … I don’t remember him saying that it’s not “<em>predictive</em>”, his Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> You’ll find that on Twitter. He said that it doesn’t have any predictive value.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> What I remember him, … the point he emphasized a lot, is that the jews adapt their strategy. That it doesn’t stay constant over time. That they adapt to the changing environment around them. And that is a good indication that they are active, conscious, … What is it, … they have agency. And a lot of the arguments that you’re from jews, in defense of their jewing, is this pretense that the jews don’t have agency.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s another thing MacDonald has never talk about that, I don’t think. But that’s one of the ways that I analyze what’s going on. That, this idea of “<em>agency</em>”, about being in control. Being, first of all, conscious of yourself as a group, and then exerting what power you have over the reality around you, to change it. And that the jews, … I agree with MacDonald that the jews don’t just consistently follow one strategy, that they change. They morph, they sometimes go back and forth between the out-marriage in and the staying insular. It goes back and forth.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The genetic evidence, for instance, shows that the Ashkenazi jews, at some point in the past, took European wives. But then that stopped. And for many generations then, they just were endogamous. They married within their population. And that’s what’s remarkable about Ashkenazi jews. It’s not the fact that they lived in Europe, but the fact that they’ve stayed jews! That they’ve stayed an insular, identifiably different, distinct population. And they’ve resisted mixing with Europeans. They’ve mixed a little bit, but not as much as other groups of Europeans have mixed together and blend.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[79:48]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, so I want to respond to something you said.</p>
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<p>You said jewish strategy is situational, but the essence of the Cofnas critique, and what I’m saying, is that the examples of jewish disagreement that are given in the Cofnas critique and what I gave, are not comparing jews at different historical periods. They are comparing jews in the very same period, in the very same place.</p>
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<p>So I’m talking about in the United States of America. You are saying when jews marry out it’s &#8220;<em>group evolutionary strategy</em>&#8221; and when they marry in it’s &#8220;<em>group evolutionary strategy</em>&#8220;.</p>
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<p>United States of America, when they promote immigration restriction, that’s part of the jewish &#8220;<em>group evolutionary strategy</em>&#8220;. When they promote immigration expansion, it’s part of the &#8220;<em>group evolutionary strategy</em>&#8220;. If jews kill themselves as part of the jewish &#8220;<em>group evolutionary strategy</em>&#8220;. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Tan starts laughing]</strong></span> Like whatever jews do, … So your theory cannot, …</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford050"></a>Whatever jews Do is Bad, Because They are the Enemy!</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Luke, I’ve already commented to that! Yeah, whatever jews do is bad! Yeah! That’s, because they’re the enemy!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, from my point of view, … I didn’t start out with that point of view, but over time I’ve realized it’s pretty fruitless to argue with the jew, about what they’re doing wrong. Because they’re not going to stop it. They’re going to come up with arguments like what you’re coming up with. Which is that:</span></p>
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<p><em><span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8220;I’m the problem! That I’m imagining! That no matter what jews do, it’s a problem!&#8221;</span></em></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes! It is!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I think I’ve been reasonable. I’ve explained how it’s different. And you, you know, this, to different jews at the same time, are doing different things. Yeah, well, did it occur to you that maybe those two different jews disagree about what they think is best for the jews?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the point is that they’re both trying to pursue what they think is best for the jews, or at least they say that. At least that’s their act. I grant that some of them may do what they want to do and that their excuse is:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well it’s best for the jews!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I think Whites aren’t even doing that! So, we’d be a lot better off if we were pursuing a strategy like that, “<em>What’s best for the Whites</em>”. And even if some of them would were not sincere, if at least some of them were, we would have a better chance of thriving, than we are now, where basically, Whites are demoralized, disorganized, and dying.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[82:02]</span></strong></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford051"></a>Do White People Have Agency?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Though White people have agency?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes they do!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> They’re responsible for the societies that create?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So then the jewish question isn’t really that big?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes it is, actually. Because it has to do with control. Who actually has control at this moment? And it’s pretty obvious to me that the jews have control, maybe not absolute control. There are things that they can’t control. The Internet is one, for instance. The fact that I can publish my thoughts on the internet. But they’re working to change that! And they will eventually succeed. We know from history, in the Soviet Union they made “<em>anti-semitism</em>”, air quotes, a crime! They made it a capital crime. You paid with your life!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> How do you think someone who doesn’t know either of us, and doesn’t have a strong opinion either way on the JQ. When they hear you say anything jews do is for jewish interests. How do you think they hear that?</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford052"></a>Luke, You’re Not Making Honest, Valid Arguments</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I think the they’ll hear that you’re playing games! That you’re smart enough to realize that the arguments you’re making are not honest arguments, are not valid arguments. I’m upfront about my bias. I’m biased in favor of Whites. I see it jews as the enemy of Whites. And that’s where everything that I’m saying springs from. But that doesn’t mean I’m making stuff up, out of nowhere. It doesn’t mean that I’m being irrational! So, I trust that will come through to any White person who listens to this. And I don’t have any, … I wouldn’t be talking to a “<em>jew jew</em>” to begin with. I’m not interested at all in saying anything that appeals to them.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[83:59]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So you said the arguments I mentioned are dishonest. So could you restate in your own words what are my arguments, and why they’re dishonest, or just pick one.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No. I don’t have a photographic memory, and you would then pick nits with “<em>I got some word wrong</em>” about what you said. I’m confident that if somebody listens to this, if I listen to this afterward, I’ll be happy with the arguments that I made. And I’ll be happy, I think, that people whose opinions I care about, will hear the way that you’re arguing. It’s not like the first time I’ve heard these kinds of arguments made. The intermarriage argument, or the “<em>immigration is also bad for the jews</em>”. These are not important to me. I don’t care!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford053"></a>Would You Describe jews as Ethnocentric?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So would you describe jews as ethno-centric?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Absolutely! They are probably, the most ethnocentric people that there! The most a ethnocentric group, the most powerful group. They are the most hyper conscious of themselves as a group.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So jews are the most ethnocentric people there are, yet they marry out of a sixty percent, while there are plenty of other groups that rarely marry out. But somehow jews who are marrying out in the majority are more ethnocentric than groups that don’t marry out?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I’ve already explained how the marrying out actually ends up helping them as a group. And that the ones that don’t marry out, reproduce at very high rates. And so there’s no threat to their survival. And that I think I’ve made that case, repeatedly So, if you are to continue to characterize it as somehow wrong, I’m not going to repeat myself on that point.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I didn’t characterize it. Anyway, I just asked you a question.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Okay. Next question.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. So when we have jews who are over-represented among the leadership of violently opposing movements, this does not seem to fit in any obvious way with MacDonald’s theory which is, … the essence of at least one of MacDonald’s theories in “<em>Culture of Critique</em>”, is that jews push the opposite on non-jews, that they seek for themselves.</p>
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<p>So, on non-jews they push multiculturalism, multiracialism, while they seek to conserve the benefits of cohesion and exclusion for their own group.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford054"></a>Jews Moralize to Whites to Convince Them That What is Good for Whites is Bad</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I think that’s just normal behavior. I would term it and explain it in a different way, or describe it in a different way. It’s just what you do to your enemy.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If you have a rifle and your enemy has a rifle, you try to take your enemy’s rifle away. If you can do it by talking nonsense to him, getting him to think that holding a rifle is wrong, morally, well that’s great! That’s what the jews do, in fact!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">A lot of what they do is just moralizing! That’s what they’ve been doing the longest. They convince people that doing what’s good for the jews, is good! And doing what’s good for themselves is bad! It’s really that basic! And they’ve been doing that since Christ, and probably before, into the dim traces of history. We have a less complete understanding of, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So the examples that Kevin MacDonald uses to back up their assertion, actually turn out to be counterexamples, so, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I don’t agree with that. That’s Cofnas’ characterization of it. And I don’t agree with that.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. So I’ll just give one of his arguments and you can point out where it’s factually, or logically incorrect.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Sure.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So Kevin MacDonald notes that in a 1974 article of the top twenty one intellectuals in the United States, that fifteen with jews and MacDonald’s notes that eleven them were New York jews. All who were at one point, or another, this is MacDonald’s exact phrasing:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Significantly influenced by Freudian theory.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford055"></a>Fifteen jewish Intellectuals</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So! When you examine these fifteen jews, they are: Daniel Bell, Noam Chomsky, Irving Howard, Norman Mailer, Robert Silvers, Susan Sontag, Lionel Trilling, Hanna Arendt, Saul Bello, Paul Goodman, Richard Hofstadter, Irving Crystal, Herbert Marcuse, Norman Podhoretz, and David Reinsman.</p>
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<p>Only one of these intellectuals actually exemplifies his theory. That Norman Podhoretz, who pushed immigration restriction for Israel and, you know, immigration expansion for the United States. So the very example that MacDonald uses to try to make his case that judaism is a group evolutionary strategy, actually turns out to be a counterexample, because so many of these names were pushing the very same thing for Israel, as they were pushing for the United States. So, that seems to me, a substantial challenge to MacDonald scholarship. What do you think?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I think MacDonald has to defend himself on that point, if that’s the way he chooses to argue it. Then he’s got to defend his approach to arguing it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I would argue it as it’s not, … I would simply say the jews are the enemy. And so that’s, you know, jews, jewing freely like they were. Some of those names, Marcuse, and Sontag. I mean, these were virulently, in the true sense of the word &#8220;<em>virulence</em>&#8220;, virulent anti-White jews! They were enemies of White people! They were explicit about it! And that’s what’s important about those jews from my point of view. Not that they were part of a jewish intellectual movement that was intellectually consistent, or not.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[90:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">In the case of the Freudians they were just fraudulent! So, you know, the fact that some of them were, this list of jews was supposedly Freudians and that was supposed to prove something. The fact that they’re jews. And the fact that some of them, two of them, at least off the top of my head, if you read that list again I could probably name another one, or two, that I know for sure have been anti-White. Hofstadter is the other one I can remember. He was the one who wrote the about the conspiratorial mind of the right wing, or something stupid like that. He was a half jew too, Richard Hofstadter, if I’m correct.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford056"></a>Whites Don’t Recognise That jews are at War with Them!</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They were basically at war with the Whites in America! And the Whites in America didn’t recognise it as warfare!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The jews understood it as warfare! They saw themselves as a group — opposed to the Whites who still had control over some parts of the levers of power in America — and they worked as a team in different ways, doing different things. So you’re going to be able to find examples where this jew argued for this and this jews argued for the exact opposite, but they consciously saw themselves as being on a team, and as being opposed to those other people, the White people in America. And that they were in a struggle for control over America. And they won, in the end. They have control today. More control than they had, back when they were working!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So in 1948 when Hannah Arendt along with Sidney Hawk and twenty four other prominent jews signed a letter to the <em><strong>New York Times</strong></em> describing the political party of Menachem Begin as closely akin in it’s organization, methods, and political philosophy, to the Nazi Party, is out also part of the jewish group evolutionary strategy, where they call their own major political party in the jewish state, as akin to Nazi Parties?</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford057"></a>Jews Behaving as “Nazis”</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I could see how it could be. Just to make the point, the Nazis were reacting to jewing, and in some ways you could say that what they were doing was trying to meet the jews, using the same tactics. So it’s not a surprise when even jews recognize that Israelis are behaving like Nazis, or that jews are behaving like Nazis. The jews to the extent they can, have tried to forbid anyone from saying such a thing. That’s the most, that’s the strongest form, of quote, unquote, “<em>anti-semitism</em>” that there is, according to jews. To call jews a “<em>Nazi</em>”, because, you know, they would want Nazi to mean the exact opposite of jews. That “<em>jew</em>” means good, and right, and righteous! And “<em>Nazi</em>” is wrong and evil!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[92:56]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the fact is, if you look at it objectively, and I’m not even looking at it objectively, you can see the similarities.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s about being conscious of yourself as a group and being ruthless about pursuing your interests as a group. And I’m not surprised at all that there are some jews who say as a jew:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>I think it’s bad for the jews, if jews act like Nazis!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s pretty much how they put it! I wouldn’t be surprised at all if you could find that in this statement, whatever this document is that you’re citing, that you find what they’re arguing is that it would be bad for the jews, if people got the perception the jews were acting like Nazis! Because they are sensitive to the fact that White people don’t like hypocrisy!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They don’t like when people, like jews, say this is not good you shouldn’t do this! You shouldn’t organize! You shouldn’t be tribal! You know, this tribalism is bad! Some tribalist jew is, … I see this on a daily basis in the jewish media. Some jew, who is basically pretending not to be a jew, most of the time, or at least not openly identifying themselves as a jew, writing a an op-ed about how bad “<em>tribalism</em>” is for democracy.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s hypocrisy! Right? And so when a White person points out, or notices on their own, that this is a tribalist jew saying it’s bad, that tribalism is bad, a White person gets upset about that. A White person resents that!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford058"></a>Intersectional jewing — Where One jew Agenda Conflicts with Another jew Agenda</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So there are jews who are sensitive to that, and want to head that off before it happens. They want to get out in front of it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s something I wanted to bring up about this, you know, jews taking supposedly opposite positions.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">A good example with Cofnas, is Cofnas is part of the upstart reaction to the dominant jewing which is going on right now, having to do with race. The “<em>anti-racism jewing</em>”, I call it. The prevailing opinion about race, is that it’s just a “<em>social construct</em>”, there’s no biological founding to it. And jews like Cofnas which I identify as say, “<em>race realist</em>” jews, they’re pushing back against this. It’s something, it’s a phenomenon I call “<a href="http://age-of-treason.com/2017/06/29/intersectional-jewing/"><em>intersectional jewing</em></a>”. Where there’s some jewing that’s going on, and it goes on so hard, and so long, and so deep that it’s starting to, maybe impinge on other jews and their jewing! What they want to do! They maybe working in biology, there maybe working in DNA research, and there uncovering stuff that’s being somehow impinged on by this anti-racist jewing. So they start to push back, like Cofnas is part of this movement. <strong>Pinker</strong> and <strong>David Reich</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But then it’s not like those are the only two opinions. You’d think it, because those two jewish groups, they point at the other as the enemy, and they start fighting and it’s a big fake fight! They never identify the jewish core at the heart of both of the groups! And they’re pushing, they’re stealing the air from anyone else! The “<em>racists</em>”! I mean, this is something I need to write about still. This thing that’s going on with Pinker and Reich in the paper that Cofnas, is like a just a sideshow to. He’s part of it, but they don’t want MacDonald to be better known.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford059"></a>Intersectional jewing — Promoting Reich, Pinker and Cofnas as Being Against “anti-racist” jewing</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But they’re putting Reich and Pinker out front with their new books. All about this anti, this pushback against the “<em>anti-racist</em>” jewing that’s been going on since the end of World War Two. Because science, there’s evidence for race in science! They’ve never been able to destroy it. And it’s bubbling up again! It can’t be, the truth about that can’t be suppressed.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But they are basically, in their papers, Reich and Pinker both, what they share in common, is they’re both saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Look! We’ve got to confront this truth! We’ve got to confront this reality! Because otherwise my six million, the &#8216;</em><em>Holocaust</em>&#8216;, <em>these bad people, the racists, the Nazis, are going to be talking about it. And they’re going to be boosted by the fact that they’re actually talking about the truth, and we aren’t!&#8221;</em></span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So this is the phenomena. It’s not as simple as just the jews do, some jews walk on the Left, and some jews walk on the Right, and those are the only two ways. That’s a false dichotomy! The jews steal the air! They have both the dominant position, and the challenge to the false opposition to the dominant position. And they squeeze the air out of the room, so nobody else, so no true opposition can arise.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford060"></a>Why are Whites Unable to Overcome the jews?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Why are Whites unable to overcome that?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[97:30]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Well the first part of it. Millions of White people died in that war <strong>[WWII]</strong>, and why people are hesitant to go to war again over this kind of issue. So, I think, that at a very primal level it’s just bad “<em>juju</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s not a pun, it’s just bad! You know, at a subconscious level, I think White people just realize there’s, … first of all on an individual level, a White person thinks:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Hey, I don’t like what’s going on, and, you know, it seems to have something to do with the jews. I better shut my mouth. Just keep my mouth shut!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So White people tend to be kind of individualistic. They’re encouraged to be individualistic, either that, or humanistic. Definitely nothing having to do with race! And so it sort of squeezes out, this pressure from the media, pressure from the government, pressure from all the authority figures, that says:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Don’t think about race! Don’t think about your own kind! That’s evil!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so Whites tend to think individually:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>What do I have to do to survive on my own?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Or:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>How do I join some foreign legion, or some other larger group that seems to care about all of humanity?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s why it doesn’t happen. It wasn’t always like this! A hundred years ago, before the war, there was a vibrant and growing awareness. Maddison Grant is a good example. That came up in Cofnas’ paper. Maddison Grant’s “<strong><em>Passing of the Great Race</em></strong>” was a popular book. It was a bestseller! It was these ideas, were being presented to White people, and White people were beginning to understand, and beginning to accept them.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[99:15]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford061"></a>Super Chats — What Should White Guys Do to Spread Awareness of the JP?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Let me read some super chats and I’ll pause after each one. If you want to comment, just jump in and comment, or just say “<em>pass</em>”.</p>
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<p>Frank writes:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>Luke, thanks for having Tan on the show. Could you ask him what young White guys should do to spread awareness of the jewish problem?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Talk about it. Don’t let it slide!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And talk about it seriously! I mean, there’s a value to the memes. I understand the whole, you know, let’s joke about it. Let’s make it ironic and all that. And we can slide in under the radar that way.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, talk seriously about it, too, and think seriously about it. One of the things that I’d like people to do, is to not take away from the example I set. Is don’t think that anything that I’m doing, says, or implies that I think it’s okay, to get married to somebody who’s jewish, or somebody who’s half jewish. I don’t! Part of why I do what I do as unapologetically and as unrelenting as I do, is I don’t want other White kids, White boys to make the same mistake, or White girls for that matter.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t, you know, I chalk it up partly to my own bad instincts that it happened to me. But also I was in a society that didn’t teach about the jews. Didn’t, there was no, nothing bad could be said about the jews. It’s still true to a certain extent today, although we have on the Internet the freedom to start talking to each other. And that’s why there is hope now. And it’s better.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, you know, keep your head low, too! Don’t do anything stupid, I would advise young White guys. Keep your powder dry. The kind of silly way of putting it, that old men usually put it! But it’s coming! And they’ll be a time to act. And just wait for that time. Be a leader. We need leaders too! Not everybody needs to be a leader, but we’re still waiting for a good leader to come forth.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[101:25]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford062"></a>Ford — Are You a Leader?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Are you a leader?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I recused myself. First of all, it’s not in my personality, even if I wanted to be a leader, I wouldn’t be a good leader. I’m too, … I don’t know how to describe it. Basically I refuse to do it. And I’m not cut out for it. I’m damaged goods, I’m compromised. So, there’s no way I could be one.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, I’m going to read three comments by the same jew, and again you’re welcome to comment, or say “<em>pass</em>”. One:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>My father is a military officer and a NRA member. Strategy?</em></span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I don’t know what that means.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford063"></a>Comments — Are All jews In On It?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. Second comment:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>Ask this guy, if all jews are in on it?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No. I don’t think all jews understand things the way I understand it. But they certainly, and this goes along with the most ethnocentric group, they are the most aware. The largest percentage of their population is aware of themselves as jews, and unapologetically pursues the interest of the jews, what’s best for the jews. Ask him back, does he know the statement “<em>What’s good for the jews</em>”? Can he acknowledge that?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I’m sure he does.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> So he’s in on it! Yes!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> He’s in on it!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p>And then he also writes:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>Tell Tan that many jews are screwed over by jewish power. I am one of them.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Take it up with the jews!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong></p>
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<p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>They ruin society in general. I’m not elite, I am just as screwed.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I don’t care! He should take it up with the jews then, just like I am.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> That’s his business. It’s between him and his own people. Go move to Israel and vote for open borders.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford064"></a>Comments — Is Monomania on the JQ Better Than White Improvement?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> OK. Randolph write:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>Is monomania on JQ better than White improvement?&#8221;</em></span></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[104:31]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Yeah, well, I’ve already addressed that. But “<em>monomania</em>” is one of those things, that’s one of the psychopathologizing words, that if you talk too much about the jews — which is easy to do, because not many people talk about the jews — that it can be characterized that as “<em>monomania</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’ve been accused of “<em>monomania</em>” by other people who supposedly are not just White racialists, but are critical of jews themselves. They think I go too far! That I talk only about the jews! And they call it “<em>monomania</em>”. Which is basically just following the jewish pattern of criticizing people who are critical of jews. I dismiss it!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If anything, Whites are not critical enough of jews. Imagine jews criticizing other jews for being too monomaniacal about “<em>anti-semitism</em>”. I’m sure that there are some that do. I don’t really care that they do, but it’s not a problem that jews have. jews complain plenty about “<em>anti-semitism</em>”. That’s their number one concern, they’re obsessed with it. They’re obsessed with their own interests. And so I would see, I would say that this my concern about the jews, which is being characterized as “<em>monomania</em>”, is nothing but concern for my own people. I wouldn’t care at all about the jews, if they were living on the other side of the planet and had no impact on White people.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford065"></a>Do jews Control the Weather?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong></p>
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<p>“<em>Do jews control the weather?</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> You know what was interesting about that the black guy who said that, he said the Rothschilds. That was immediately interpreted by the jews media, as the jews! That’s the first thing about that. And the second thing about that, is the jews do control what that black guy says, because as they came down on him like a ton of bricks, and he immediately apologized, and explained that:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh no! I’m sorry, the jewish people are such, …</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t even know what he said, but it was just grovelling. It was grovelling. And so the jews do have power where it counts, which is making people who are critical of them, either shut up, or grovel, and, or both!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that’s what’s that’s the interesting thing about that “<em>jews control the weather</em>” thing.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[105:45]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford066"></a>Comments — How are Whites to Speak on jew Influence Without “anti-semite’ Being Shrieked?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. Fortress comments:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em><strong>Nathan Cofnas</strong> wrote: ‘there are outliers therefore Kevin MacDonald is now disproven’. <strong>Kevin</strong> responds: ‘I never said that at all’. So, how are Whites to speak on jewish influence without ‘anti-semite’ being shrieked?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> It won’t. It will be shrieked, and Whites just have to grow a thicker skin. I interpret it as bad faith, to put it mildly. Like hiding who they are, pretending not to be jews. That it’s the kind of action that an enemy makes. When they screech “<em>anti-semitism</em>”, because George Soros is being criticized, or, because the Rothschilds are being criticized, because globalists are being criticized, they’re basically announcing that they’re the enemy! So if anything, I think considerate helpful.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Your model that jews are the enemy, is there any way of falsifying that model?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> It’s not a model! It’s an attitude!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, is it way of falsifying that attitude?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No! I don’t think there is!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I’m not an academic. I’m not trying to prove some thesis.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, no!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford067"></a>Jews are the Enemy Whatever They Do?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, you believe jews are the enemy, no matter what they do?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I believe the jews are the enemy based on what they’ve done. And I believe it won’t change, no matter what I do. No matter what I say. So, that’s my answer to that.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, are some jews more of the enemy than other jews?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I think they’re active at different levels, and in different ways, yeah. You know, like the “<em>in your face jew</em>” versus the “<em>down-low jews</em>”, that I mentioned.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. I don’t think that answered the question Are all jews equally the enemy, or some jews more the enemy than others?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> All jews, equally? No. I’d say no, not “<em>equally enemies</em>”. It’s like some of them are generals, and some of them are privates, and some of them aren’t participating at all, actively.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, are a significant number of jews who are, in effect, not the enemy?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Not that I’m aware of. That’s the old “<em>good jew</em>”, the search for the “<em>good jew</em>”, that White people tend to fall into the trap of trying to name jews that they think are doing a good thing, and doing the right thing, and “<em>more jews should be like this jew</em>”. I don’t engage in that nonsense.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[108:34]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford068"></a>Is Steve Miller Anti-White?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, do you think Steven Miller is anti-White?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No, I think Stephen Miller is against immigration, because he thinks America is a good thing, much like Lawrence Auster. These are jews who basically, I know in Lawrence Auster’s case, he said explicitly, you know, basically “<em>America is good for the jews</em>”! America as it was. But all these Muslims coming in is going to be bad for the jews. And that’s why he was basically against immigration.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Steven Miller, I assume is similar. His particular thing was Mexicans in California, and then later I think he was critical of Muslims too. I’ve never really analyzed him too closely. I’ve watched a few of his things, his activism in high school and college.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, I don’t care! I mean, the jews, as a group, don’t get a pass, or don’t get any sort of credit from me, because of what Steven Miller has done.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Stephen Steinlight’s another example of a jew who is critical of immigration, and even the jewish role in immigration. But, it’s, because, he says, he thinks it’s bad for the jews. It’s not, because he feels sorry for White people. It’s not, because he gives a, he cares at all about White people! It’s only, because he cares about jews, that he’s against immigration.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I wouldn’t say that I know that about Steve Miller, but I would guess that’s the most likely explanation for Miller’s behavior, as well.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[110:04]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford069"></a>Are You an Unhappy Guy?</span></strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So there’s some people in chat who say Tan is just an unhappy guy. Are you an unhappy guy?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">No. Personally, I’m very happy! My family situation is great! I mean, other than the jew thing, which is as I said, “<em>dooms</em>” me.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Ford laughs]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That is looming always in the back of my mind, so maybe that does make me unhappy. But, in every other respect, I’m well off. I live in a nice place. Partly because I was racially conscious enough to pick a nice place. And my family situation is good. I have nothing to complain about. When people say, “<em>Hey! How you doing?</em>” I have nothing to complain about, except the jews! What’s going on in the world outside and long term is not good. That concerns me, yeah. But my personal situation is not bad at all.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[111:08]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford070"></a>Things That Make You Happy?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, obviously, as you picked up, some people think you have a “<em>monomania</em>”. I was wondering if you could expand and talk about the things that make you happy?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Makes me happy?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well for many years I poured my attention, and got happiness from my career, my profession as a computer programmer. And I still get that. When I get a little bit too angsty about the stuff that I’m dealing with, this sewage that I have to wade through. When I look into what the jews are up to, or have been up to in the past, I often retreat back into my work and I just program for a while. Solve abstract problems with things that have nothing to do with human beings.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that makes me feel good.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> What about music? Does music make you happy?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I’m not musically inclined at all. I’ll just leave it there. My kids are, but I attribute that to the jewish side of the family thing, more than me.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, So there are two critical super chats, I think I’d be more honorable if I read them, while you’re here rather than wait until the end of the show, so, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I don’t care about criticism. I do have a thick skin. I don’t care what people have to say about me, and I’ll answer it honestly, to the extent I can. Shoot.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Rondo says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>Too many White advocates fall into this monomania.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> And I say exactly the opposite, not enough do.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, and Jake the jew says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>The fundamental point is that being jewish is a crime.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> The fundamental point is that being a jew, means you’re the enemy. And I don’t give a shit, what you think anyway!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford071"></a>Reflections on This Interview</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, so I want to give you five, ten minutes, however much, or two minutes, whatever time you want to take, to just reflect on our dialogue, and at times, debate, and do you think I was fair to you? Do you think I was unfair? Do you think I was playing dirty pool?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Well at times, … yeah. No thanks for hosting this conversation.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s no technical obstacle to me doing podcasts, but it’s hard. The kind of podcast I like to do, are packed with information and insights, and it’s hard to sit down and discipline myself to do them. So, I enjoy these opportunities to just sort of, off the cuff, talk about issues.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I think for the most part you were fair, or at least you asked questions that got to the root of things, you know, prompted me to get to the important points I wanted to make. And I think I got to all of them. If I didn’t though, I’ll make notes and comments on my own blog post about this. Things I forgot to mention. But, in the middle there you got a little bit, you know, tedious with that childish argument about over simplifying things, to reduce it all to the jews, by continuing to go back to that. That was annoying. But otherwise, I thought that you’re fair when it comes to dealing with the jews. You’re biased in favor of them, because you have joined them!</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford072"></a>What Does It Mean To Be a jew?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, you basically, you’re a White guy who like what you saw and you decided to join their religion, because you thought it was just about a religion. And you even have shown some signs, I thought, some of the stuff I read years ago that you had written, that you realized that it’s not just a religion! That you realize that there is a racial aspect to it. So before I go I did want to get to you on that, you know, ask you, how do you feel about the relationship between genetics, race, and jews, and jewish identity? And what it means to be a jew?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[115:16]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Well, I’m glad you asked. I think genes are here <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[putting his hand up high]</strong></span> and I think everything else is downstream from genes. So I think religion is downstream from genetics. I think culture is downstream from genetics. I think politics is downstream from culture, religion. You know, genetics are up here and everything else flows from genetics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Is what you’re doing a personal survival strategy? That you think you join the jews, because you’re joining the winning team?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Not consciously. When I converted I did it, because I thought it was the best way to make a better world. I thought it, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> A better world for yourself? Or for a better world for somebody else?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Better world for everyone. I saw it judaism as a step, by step, detailed system for making a better world.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[116:02]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford073"></a>Ford’s Fundamental Misunderstanding of judaism</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Now that seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of judaism.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because they, I know that’s the rhetoric. But that’s not what jews really pursue. They pursue their own interests. And you can understand the double talk as:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well, to them, human, you know, jew is all they mean when they talk about humanity.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They’re talking about jewry! When they talk about God, they’re talking about jewry! When they talk about, in universalist terms, they’re talking about the universal group of jews, not everybody! But they also, they’re smart enough to realise that other people are misled by this kind of rhetoric, and think that they’re talking about everybody. So, now you’ve been in it for years, and you’ve stuck with it! So have you fallen for that? Or do you want to disagree with me and tell me that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh no! jews really do, … the jewishy jews, the Orthodox jews, really believe that they’re doing the best thing for all of humanity, including the goyim?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Ford pauses for a moment]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I’m thinking. I don’t have an immediate response. I would say that the primary focus of judaism, and of jews, is on the best interests of jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Not on preaching a moral message to the world. But it’s pragmatic, primarily. What’s in the best interests of jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yeah. The way I’ve put it, is it’s “<em>particularism</em>”. And that’s one of the hypocrisies that they preach “<em>universalism</em>”, or talk in “<em>universalist</em>” rhetoric to other people, and encourage other people to think in universalist terms, but they think in “<em>particularist</em>” terms themselves. That’s their morality, it’s about themselves. They define themselves, what’s good and bad, in terms of themselves.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That led me to a deeper understanding of what morality actually is. That you can have an individualist morality where good and bad are defined in you in terms of what’s good, or bad for you personally, or you can have a tribal morality, like the jews do, were good and better defined in terms of your limited group, or you can have a universalist, you know, closer to Christianity, Christianity is closer to that morality, where you think in terms of universal good and bad. That something is good, or bad based on some abstract understanding that involves, that applies equally to everyone.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[118:30]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford074"></a>Do You Believe in Universal Morality?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So do you believe in universal morality?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No! And I don’t believe in individual morality, either. I don’t really think in moral terms. I understand when people struggle and talk about morality though, I decode what they’re saying by understanding it in this way, I’ve just described. I try to understand, are they talking from a individual point of view, maybe even without being conscious of it themselves.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s what I’m getting at with you. Is when you decided to become an Orthodox jew, was it, because you had just been, you know, through hell in being involved with porn, and there were lots of jews involved in that. You, like Madonna style, thought:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh, I think I’ll just get into this thing that all these jews are talking about!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that you did it, because you saw it as a way of cleaning up your life. You describe it that way, don’t you? That at one point some rabbi advised you to like, scrub all the porn stuff off of your personal domain, and you did that. And so it seems to me like that’s probably subconsciously why you gravitated toward it. You saw it as a way of basically cleaning up your life.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah and I mean, that started many years before I had anything to do with the porn industry. I fell in love with jews and Judaism in the late 1980s.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Oh! And then you went to porn? I got it backwards?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Okay.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[120:00]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford075"></a>Ford’s Journey To judaism</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> And so for me I first consciously met openly identifying jews at UCLA in 1988. And I was blown away by how smart they were. How articulate they were. The supreme quality of their family life. And I was fascinated, and at the same time I was going through, what turned into six years of bedridden illness! And so my life it just completely fallen apart. I was sick every day, for six years on end!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-JQ-Debate-with-Age-of-Treason-—-UCLA-campus-late-1940s.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-26364" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-JQ-Debate-with-Age-of-Treason-—-UCLA-campus-late-1940s.jpg" alt="" width="736" height="572" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-JQ-Debate-with-Age-of-Treason-—-UCLA-campus-late-1940s.jpg 736w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-JQ-Debate-with-Age-of-Treason-—-UCLA-campus-late-1940s-600x466.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 736px) 100vw, 736px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] UCLA in the 1940s.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so I was desperately looking for something to inspire me, and to anchor me, and to, you know, just help me get up in the morning. I was just trying to survive! And it was my passion for judaism, and my passion passionate attachment to some individual jews, who I met, who I found just so impressive, that enabled me to overcome those six years of chronic illness. And I’m not sure that a Darwinian approach to life would have enabled me to survive that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> So, does it bother you at all, and this is something that when I was talking about and researching crypsis and half jews. It occurred to me that a lot of these jews, they complain, some of them complained about the fact that jews tend to push away half jews especially the ones whose, they’re only jewish to their father. But they don’t really seem to resent the jews for that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Not to the extent that, say Whites. When Whites try to be exclusive to the extent they are and it’s a lot less than jews. Whites seem to incite this deep hatred in people, you know, who aren’t pure White, because when Whites say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>You know, you’re not White, you’re half something else.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They get very upset about it. But they don’t seem to get upset with jews in the same way, even though jews are basically more so. They’re maybe more sneakier, quiet about it, the way they say it, but that never caused any resentment from you that you meet these jews who basically look down their nose and don’t accept you, because you’re not really a jew?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[122:27]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Sure. I have emotions. I was even emotionally affected by some of the things you said tonight. So, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I hope as a White man, not as a jew! This imaginary identity you’ve accepted, this identifying with a group that’s not your own. I hope it was because I said something that made you feel shame about your duty to your own people!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> It’s hard to disentangle emotions. So I won’t try, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> What did I say that upset you?</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford076"></a>A jew Told Ford That you Can’t Convert To judaism</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I’m not sure, but I’ll admit I noticed my voice cracked at one point. So, I’ll just admit that. You know, I really wish it hadn’t. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> I really wish that I’d be totally beyond that, but I got to be honest at one point my voice cracked! I just got to admit that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But as far as jews not regarding me is jewish. Only only one woman said that to me seriously. She said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>I don’t believe anyone can convert to Judaism.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It did take me aback. And also I kind of disliked it for it. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> And I still have a very clear picture of her face. I know who she is. She’s prominent in the jewish community, and I still remember her name. So I have a, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> She was the only one that was honest with you. Because that’s actually the predominant view amongst the Orthodox, and beyond, the ultra Orthodox.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. But if that is the predominant view, then why did they invite me to their homes? My perception, &#8230; But wait, let me finish.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, So obviously my perceptions, you know, may be somewhat removed from reality. But my experience of Orthodox judaism is that overall I have been welcomed, according to my merits. Now, I’m a pretty messed up guy in many, many ways. So whatever community I was going to join, I was going to have a lot of problems, because I’m very, I have a lot of problems. But jews bring me into their homes for meals. Jews set me up on dates with other jews. Jews have offered me jobs. Jews have steered me towards good doctors, or good psychotherapists, or a good psychiatrists, or, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They have they have trusted me to drive their children to school, to pick that children up from school. There is nothing, of which I’m aware, that the jews have not, you know, trusted me with. So I’m not saying every jew, but overall, if you look at my life, my participation in orthodox judaism, there’s no area of orthodox judaism where you’d say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Well, he clearly doesn’t belong.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>For example, one of the most clear signs that you’re a part of the community is that they set you up. It’s called a “<em>shidduch</em>”, a “<em>match</em>” and that’s happened to me repeatedly. So why would orthodox jews set me up on matches with women who are born jewish, if they don’t accept me? It wouldn’t make sense. Now I’m sure some of them do not accept me. And much of that has to do with my own problems as a human being, but I’m sure also some of them do except me, because I’m a convert.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I could be mis-reading reality. Like I might be completely delusional.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> And you might be. I’m surprised, frankly I’m surprised to hear that, but I’m glad I asked. And I’m not ashamed when I’m wrong about something, or wrong in assuming something so. But, there was something I noticed on Twitter, I don’t have an account on Twitter, an active account, I have a read only account on Twitter, which enables me to create lists.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I have various lists for different topics. I follow biologists, and scientists in one list. And one of my main lists, and one of the main reasons I rejoined Twitter just to do this, was so that I had a list of these, mostly Jews journalists. And I call it the “<em>echo chamber</em>”. And the funny thing about that, is whenever I find a new one that I haven’t followed yet, and haven’t added to the list, is it will list out, … I know I got a live one, because that’ll show me the ones that I’m already following, that follow that one. And</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> I noticed when I went to your Twitter, is you’ve got the &#8220;<em>(((echo parentheses)))</em>” and everything.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> But there’s no jews following you! None of the hundreds of jews that I’m following, all the jewishy jews, all the most toxic jews on Twitter.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford077"></a>Ford Hasn’t Fooled jews</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> You haven’t fooled any of them. There’s Nathan Cofnas us who I just followed recently, and added to my list.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, here’s, I think there might have been one other, but I was struck by that! There’s not a whole bunch of jews that think what you’re saying is, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t want to, that’s too harsh to put it, but they don’t seem to include you in their circle of other jews.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Like I see, it’s a very tight cluster. You find one jew journalist you immediately find a zillion others. And they’re all following each other on Twitter.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[127:51]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah. I don’t know if you’re what your experience of grade school was like, but I didn’t start school until second grade. And I quickly encountered that there was this like, “<em>cool circle</em>”, you know, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford078"></a>On Ford Being Rejected By his Peers at School</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Their parents were cool, they did cool things, they hung out with each other. And whenever. I tried to join that circle, sometimes they’d be forced by parents getting together, they always let me know that I was not welcome. And so that exclusion is like such a painful thread in my life, that my therapist said I should call my memoir “<strong><em>The Uninvited</em></strong>”. And so what you’re touching on there is something very real. I’ve always been excluded by the cool crowd!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-The-Univited-Memoirs-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-26367" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-The-Univited-Memoirs-Ver-2-1024x808.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="505" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-The-Univited-Memoirs-Ver-2-1024x808.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-The-Univited-Memoirs-Ver-2-600x474.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-The-Univited-Memoirs-Ver-2-768x606.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Luke-Ford-The-Univited-Memoirs-Ver-2.jpg 1092w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] &#8220;<em><strong>The Uninvited?</strong>&#8221; The Uncensored Memoirs of Luke C Ford </em><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f609.png" alt="😉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> click image to enlarge)</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Well maybe that’s why you fell in with the jews, ultimately. Because as a race, as a tribe, that would describe the jews. Although part of it is just part of the parasitism. They are so upset about exclusion, they get so, you know, angry about exclusion they psychopathologize it to anyone who tries to do it. Because it doesn’t serve their interests. Any group of people that excludes them, recognizes them as different and keeps them out, is basically a threat to their survival, because they need a host to feed on.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t get that sense from you, personally. And I never had that problem in grade school myself. I saw cool crowd sometimes I was part of them, sometimes I wasn’t. By the time I got to high school, I was doing my own thing. I had my own thoughts. I had a few close personal friends, but I wasn’t part of any cool circle, and I didn’t care.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford079"></a>Ford As Cover Article in “The jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles”</span></strong></h3>
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<p>In 2007 I was featured in a cover article of “<strong><em>The jewish Journal of <span style="color: #008000;">[Greater]</span> Los Angeles</em></strong>”. And the journalist who wrote it, just got so much abuse from fellow jewish journalists, who pretty much all had the attitude that this guy, Luke Ford is like “<em>dirt under my shoe</em>”! Like how could you put this creep on the cover of your publication!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Is that because of the exposé you had done about jews in porn?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I’m sure that didn’t help. It was just kind of part and parcel. Yeah I mean, that was unbelievably creepy to, you know, any normal Jews. And then I, mean, other exposes I did about Rabbi child molesters. Like “<strong><em>The jewish Journal of Los Angeles</em></strong>” was angry, because I keep breaking these stories of scandals in the jewish community. And then they’d be forced to go cover them. And they’d rather not do that, because that just creates division, and it loses advertising in it. And it just makes your life very uncomfortable to write negative things about your own community. But, because I kept breaking these stories on my blog, I was forcing them to do things that they didn’t want to do. And so they really hated me for it. And they made sure that I looked like an idiot in their, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> “<em>Most hated blogger!</em>” Yeah, I remember that phrase.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Ford laughs]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, well I attributed to the fact that you’re not really a jew.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> And that’s what did those things. And that’s why you didn’t get more of a devastating withering attack on you, from the jews, I don’t know. But then again, I don’t know exactly what they did, or didn’t do to you, anyway. But I would be interested to read about it. If you ever wrote your memoirs and told the truth.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lawrence Auster, you’re familiar with Lawrence Auster?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yes, of course.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford080"></a>Lawrence Auster Admitted That jews were Responsible for Open Borders</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Did, you know, that at the end of his life he had this unpublished work, that he published in the last months, or weeks, of his life. And it basically revealed that, yeah, he knew that the jews were responsible for the open borders in the US. And by that point I had already realized he was, you know, an ethnic partisan. And I didn’t like him. But I thought at least he came clean at the end with that book.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[131:47]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah, you’ll see, I mean, I don’t expect you to watch my streams, but pretty much every stream I rail that every single major American jewish organizations supports immigration amnesty! Which from my perspective is the equivalent of wanting to fill my bedroom with poisonous snakes! So the way that I react to the organized jewish community, these major jewish organizations, is the very same way I’d react to someone trying to fill my bedroom with poisonous snakes!</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford081"></a>On Ford’s Hatred of jewish Organizations That are for Open Borders</span></strong></h3>
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<p>I hate these organizations and these people! At least in this respect, with an absolute passion! Because they’re trying to pour poison into the bloodstream of my country! And so, I hate them!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yeah! Yeah, well it’s ethnic warfare. And it’s got a long history amongst the jews. I remember when I first started to become critical of the jews I was looking around for information and found out. I read, it was some jewish site where they talked about how the jews themselves had been subjected to this open borders treatment back in ancient history, when the Babylonians, or it was either the Assyrians, or the Babylonians.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Maybe both of them and had taken different approaches. And the one, I’m probably mis- remembering here, but the Assyrians had conquered the northern half of Israel at the time. And opened the borders and flooded them with non-jews. And they basically killed the jews in that part of their country. And in the other half they were taken into captivity.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And you know, I long ago realized that a lot of what the jews say about their history has to be interpreted, not just with big grains of salt but is the opposite of what they say. You know, that the Exodus story being a good example. Where, you know, according to the jews they were enslaved, and they escape the evil Pharaoh. It’s more likely based on what you see they’ve been doing within recorded history, that they were victimizing the Egyptians. And they were finally, for one reason, or another, they were expelled, or left, because they had sucked all the blood out of Egypt, worn out their welcome.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Great. So we’re coming to the two hour mark. I just want to throw it open to you. I’m sure you don’t trust me, but, on the other hand, you don’t completely dismiss everything I say. So is there anything that you’re curious about us up on who’s obviously a gentile in their genetics, obviously gentile in their mannerisms, obviously gentile in their looks, and yet is still to some degree and in the middle of orthodox Judaism. Have also been around the porn industry, which is heavily jewish. And I’ve also written a book on Hollywood. Is there anything that you’re curious about from secular jewish pornographers, to secular Hollywood movie producers, to the most fanatical the orthodox jews. My lived experience, I just want to throw it out to you to in case you anything you’re curious about?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> No. No. I asked the main question about your experiences.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Excellent.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I think I’ve said it all. I’m talked out.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Great! Great! So I just want to read the chats rather than have you leave and then read them, because they are critical so you can feel free to ignore them. But I’d rather do it while you’re here. They’re all from Jay the jew. He says:</p>
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<p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>The WASPs invented universalism, not jews.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>He says:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>I grew up orthodox. jews are convert according to jewish law are absolutely jews. Luke’s issues are issues with himself. He is accepted.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>And Jake says, presumably to me:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;">“<em>This guy’s trying to get into your head!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>So those are all the super-chats. Any final words?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yeah, I am trying to get into your head. I’m trying to understand your head. And, I am trying to get into it. But, you know, you invited me to come talk to you, so I’m talking to you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I wouldn’t of talk to “<em>Jake the jew</em>”. I’m not interested at all in what Jake the jew has to say about anything.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford082"></a>Ford — Do You Think I’m Delusional?</span></strong></h3>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, I’m just curious, … I am lying, because I know I got one more question! When I tried to describe the world as I see it, and as I experience it, you think I’m ten percent delusional, do you think I’m fifty percent delusion, or do you think that I’m making a sincere effort to describe the truth as I see it. What’s your read?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[136:25]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> I get the impression from you, that you’re a White guy. Just, because you are fairly straightforward and honest, in most respects. And I also see the effect though, that identifying with the jews has had on you. And that it’s not good. And I don’t like that part of it. But, yeah, that’s what I think about that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think you’re pretty, &#8230; you don’t have the same reaction to hearing this criticism of jews, that a jew does. “<em>Jake the jew</em>” is a good example, or the other jews, in my experience, that are confronted with the criticism that Kevin MacDonald has made.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They can’t control themselves! And they just have this irrational hatred of him! They haven’t read his work, but they know they don’t like him! And they really don’t, what they really don’t like, is that he appeals to White people. That White people read his stuff and go, “<em>yeah this guy has a point.</em>” that really really frightens them!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I think that is what’s going on with Cofnas. I think that’s his thing.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[137:34]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, great. You think, possibly, you might come back one day?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> If there’s something substantial to talk about, yeah. I don’t generally like these long rambling conversations, but hopefully some of the people listening to me will enjoy hearing what I have to say. And I think I’ve said some new things that I haven’t said before.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, this was good overall, I think.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I find when I talk to someone, it always helps me get clarity, or it always helps me come out with ideas that I would not of had, or at least the way I express them, if I hadn’t had the conversation.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> Yep. I just want to leave you with one more thought to get inside your head. Is, be more critical of jews! Blow the whistle on them some more!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If, for some reason White people are, and this is one thing that I didn’t like about MacDonald’s work when I first, not at first, but after I had come to understand the jews, I was like:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Can’t we make our own criticism of the jews? Why do we have to quote the jews to have some sort of sound, something that appeals to White people?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Do you understand what I’m saying?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah!</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford083"></a>How Ford Can Help Whites by Blowing the Whistle on jews</span></strong></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> We seem to have this need to hear from the jews themselves, these things. That we don’t believe other White people when they say it. And in that respect, you could help, because you have basically an insider’s knowledge about what’s going on. How they do what they do. And you could blow the whistle, like you did, to a certain extent, with porn and the child molestation. I wasn’t aware of that, that you had uncovered that too. Publicize that stuff more!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I think what you’re doing too in talking to jew critics, in the end, is good for White people as well. Even though, you’ve come at it from an adversarial point of view, you’ve joined with this alien tribe against us. You put the questions fairly enough, and you give us the time to talk about, explain how we think about things. And I think that it will come across to the White people who stumble across this, as, they’ll side with me. They’re not going to take your side.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. Excellent Tan! And your blog is <em><strong>Age of Treason</strong></em>. So Age of Treason, you’ll find it online: age dash of dash treason dot com. And it goes back for thirteen years. So thank you so much! And I’m going to say good night everybody. Take care man.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Tan:</strong> All right, good night.</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"><a id="AOTford085"></a>NOTES &amp; LINKS</span></strong></h3>
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<p class="entry-title"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2018/03/29/luke-ford-jq-debate-with-age-of-treason-mar-2018-transcript/">Luke Ford – JQ Debate with Age Of Treason – Mar 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/12/10/the-realist-report-interviews-tanstaafl-2016-transcript/"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Realist Report Interviews TANSTAAFL — 2016 — TRANSCRIPT</span></strong></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-26375 alignnone" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER-643x1024.jpg" alt="" width="305" height="486" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER-643x1024.jpg 643w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER-600x955.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER.jpg 651w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 305px) 100vw, 305px" /></a><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-26375 alignnone" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="303" height="482" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER.jpg 651w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER-600x955.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Realist-Report-Tanstaafl-2016-COVER-643x1024.jpg 643w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 303px) 100vw, 303px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;">After a year’s break from blogging and interviews TANSTAAFL returns with this interview with John Friend at his <strong>The Realist Report</strong> site. I consider TANSTAAFL to be one of the most insightful commentators on the jewish problem, and in this interview he doesn’t disappoint with his take on what’s being going on in our movement to expose and rid ourselves of the organized evil jewish cabal that dominates our societies.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;">Topics include; the ongoing jew war on Whites, the meaning of “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”, kikeservatives, Twitter, the jewsmedia, Trump, Bannon, (((the echo meme))), Alt-Right, Richard Spencer, Greg Johnson, Jared Taylor, Hitler and National Socialist Germany, and White racial consciousness — KATANA.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/12/08/the-realist-report-tanstaafl-the-jew-as-a-parasite-transcript/"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>The Realist Report – Tanstaafl: The Jew As A Parasite — TRANSCRIPT</strong></span></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-22205 alignnone" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3-669x1024.jpg" alt="" width="302" height="462" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3-669x1024.jpg 669w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3-600x919.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3.jpg 700w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 302px) 100vw, 302px" /></a><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-22205 alignnone" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3.jpg" alt="" width="302" height="462" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3.jpg 700w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3-600x919.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3-669x1024.jpg 669w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 302px) 100vw, 302px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #008000;">On this edition of <b>The Realist Report</b>, we’ll be joined by <b>Tanstaafl</b> of <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://age-of-treason.com/"><b>Age of Treason</b></a>. Tanstaafl is one of the most knowledgeable and insightful commentators in the alternative, independent media today. In this podcast, we discussed the jewish problem and Jewish parasitism, the root cause of so-called “<i>pathological altruism</i>” prevalent in the White race today, the 2016 president campaign, and related matters.</span></p>
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<p class="entry-title"><a href="http://age-of-treason.com/2018/03/27/talking-with-luke-ford/"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Talking with Luke Ford</span></strong></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;">Tanstaafl blog post on this interview with Luke Ford.</span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Luke Ford, an Australian living in the USA, who &#8220;converted&#8221; to Judaism in 1993, interviews Kevin MacDonald and his response to a recent critique of his highly ignored (by academia), yet important book, &#8220;The Culture of Critique&#8220;, by the &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/03/24/luke-ford-with-macdonald-vs-cofnas-on-culture-of-critique-mar-2018-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>Luke Ford, </strong>an Australian living in the USA, who &#8220;<em>converted</em>&#8221; to Judaism in 1993, interviews <strong>Kevin MacDonald</strong> and his response to a recent critique of his highly ignored (by academia), yet important book, &#8220;<strong><em>The Culture of Critique</em></strong>&#8220;, by the 30-year-old, academically unknown, New York jew, <strong>Nathan Cofnas</strong>. Cofnas was scheduled to come on with MacDonald, but was unable to, due to time zone differences, as he&#8217;s in England, studying at Oxford. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Ford plays somewhat of a devil&#8217;s advocate on behalf of Cofnas, quoting some of Cofnas&#8217;, yet to be released, responses to MacDonald&#8217;s 18,0000 word response to Cofnas&#8217;s critique.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">This transcript covers  the first 71 minute part of the Youtube video with MacDonald, and not the remaining part of the total 220 minute video, where Cofnas does appear in the last third of it.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Overall, my take is that, it&#8217;s all a storm in a teacup, with very weak tea being dished up by Cofnas.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Now, the most likely reason that until now there has been, apparently, no proper academic response to MacDonald&#8217;s work, is because its main ideas are true and significant. So what was the message that has been sent out by organized jewry to academics? For over 20 years, it&#8217;s been, &#8220;<em>Kill the message by totally ignoring it!</em>&#8220;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"> MacDonald&#8217;s main point in his book is that jews, just like other human groups, act as a group to advance their interests often at the expense of other groups. Since organized jewry has maneuvered itself into being the most powerful group in Western societies, it has, and is wrecking utter destruction upon us! Especially by engineering the flooding of White countries, from New Zealand to Norway, with non-Whites. And part of the jewish group evolutionary strategy, to use Kmac&#8217;s terminology, is to prevent Whites from waking up to what they are doing to us, and responding in kind.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">So, this interview is interesting, in that we get to see Kmac defend his book, his position, in his mild-mannered, yet strong way, against a young upstart jew making a name for himself. Cofnas fails, but rest assured, that another jew, defending their tribal war against Whites, will step into the breach and fire away.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Organized jewry is at total war with Whites</strong>, attempting to genocide us through whatever means. Kmac has helped us in exposing that, with his academic work, so we should all join together in supporting him, and others like him, in what ever way we can.</span></p>
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<p class="style-scope ytd-expander" style="text-align: center;">Kevin MacDonald joins me on my YouTube channel at 7pm tonight (Nathan Cofnas might come along to keep things lively) and Richard Spencer joins me at 5pm Wednesday (CA time). Nathan Cofnas joins the show here:</p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> And we’re back! Just trying to work out the technical difficulties and get Kevin MacDonald back in here. I hope the audio’s better. Sorry about these technical difficulties, but these things happen. And now maybe this time we’ll hear Kevin loudly and clearly. So I think that’s the important thing. So, sorry about that and we’re gonna get Kevin in here any second. So we’re talking about his response to the Nathan Cofnas critique of “<strong><em>The Culture of Critique</em></strong>”. And Kevin says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I have a particular complaint, because of Steven Pinker’s not <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[?]</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">anti</span></span><span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8211;</span>scientific approach to my work, in part responsible for my spending the last 20 years in the intellectual wilderness.”</span></h3>
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<p>Wow that is very honest! That’s kind of hot on the sleeve! That’s transparent honestly! It’s not like beating around the bush! That is just laying it down.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Nevertheless, Pinker has moved the scientific and popular reception of behavior genetics of evolutionary perspectives forward. See, for example, his withering criticism in the “<strong>Blank Slate</strong>” of three of the figures discussed in Chapter two of &#8220;<strong>Cultural of Critique</strong>&#8220;, Stephen Jay Gould, Lewontin, and Rose.</span></h3>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">And for all I know he is pursuing a tactical strategy of gradualism by supporting ideas that are still regarded with extreme hostility in large swaths of academia and the media, in the hope that things will eventually change. Though his recent work &#8220;<strong>Enlightenment Now</strong>&#8221; is not encouraging in that regard. The rest of Cofnas’ conclusion is simply name-calling — no need to respond.” says Kevin.</span></h3>
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<p>So I’m sure Kevin will be in here any minute, and even Nathan Cofnas will come by. So thank you for tuning in. Waiting to get Kevin MacDonald back in the chat and take care of those pesky audio problems that troubled us in our first attempt to get this discussion moving.</p>
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<p>And Dominque wants me to replace Bill Mayer.</p>
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<h3>“Luke needs to stop being a coward and investigate and address “Holocaust” truth! He knows it’s the critical piece to understanding contemporary jewish power!”</h3>
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<p>Well, how come none of the premier Alt-Right intellectuals,<span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [are with]</strong> </span>the “<em>Holocaust</em>” revisionists. Neither <strong>Kevin MacDonald</strong>, or even <strong>Andrew Joyce</strong>, <strong>Jared Taylor</strong>, <strong>Richard Spencer</strong>, <strong>F Roger Devlin</strong>. None of the smartest Alt-Right intellectuals, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Because speaking the truth about the hoax nature of the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; will bring down the sadistic wrath of organized jewry on their heads. It&#8217;s &#8220;<em>Fear of the jews</em>&#8221; and how they can ruin your life, especially if you are a public figure.]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Oh yeah, this is great! Wow! So much to talk about!</p>
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<p>Okay. What is your perspective on the default hypothesis and why your perspective on Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy is superior?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well the default hypothesis is just absolutely the most basic thing. I mean, it’s like jews are smart. I haven’t looked at it lately, but I guess it’s the idea that simply the jews are smarter, or something. And that explains everything. On the other hand, I mean, what I’m trying to do is more than that. Acknowledge that jews are smart, they are on average. But the default hypothesis is the simplest possible explanation that might account for it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’m trying to do something more ambitious. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just a matter of finding if it’s true, or not. I mean, I have to show it’s true, but if I do show, then I’ve shown something more than the default hypothesis. And that is, you know, in science you want the truth. You don’t want, simplicity is wonderful, but the default hypothesis is certainly is good. It’s something I guess. But it’s not going to be where you want to be ultimately. You want to find out were jewish motivations important? Were the sense of jewish interests important? Those are the kinds of things you want to do.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Now one thing that’s interesting about the Cofnas critique is that Cofnas is obviously a race realist, and so is Steven Pinker. And I think there were two other jews and a non jew on the peer review are signing off on a paper of race realism. Did you see any significance to that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well it’s interesting. I had heard that I guess. That he is a race realist, which is wonderful. And I think Pinker is also. I mean, I don’t know about Pinker. The only thing I’ve seen by Pinker that suggests that is he does believe that jews are smarter. And he does believe that there’s some kind of selective pressures within the jewish community to produce that. That’s certainly part way there. I don’t know if he believes in black White IQ differences, I really don’t, but it’s interesting. It’s part way. It’s shows he’s not completely, you know, got his head in the sand! And then yeah he’s a pretty smart guy. I’m not denying that either.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> If these if these professors are signing off on an academic paper, you know, based on race realism, saying that jews are smarter, they are implicitly signing off that other people are less intelligent.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> They are. And I think, you know, they would not want to talk about blacks being smarter than, … the Whites being smarter than blacks, or something like that. Although I’m not sure. But I’ve never seen anything by Pinker suggesting he believes that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I haven’t read really anything of Cofnas at all apparently. Apparently he did something about Samuel Morton, the 19th century anthropologist. I got some email about that. And it did suggest that he was more of a race realist, or something. But I, you know, I really don’t know anything about the man, except seeing this article he did about me.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So was this the first time in your memory that you heard the name Nathan Cofnas?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yeah! That was the only time, you know, and it sort of shocked me! It took me by surprise. It, what happened Saturday was it Saturday night?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Something like that and I didn’t get going on it. I sort of glanced at it on Sunday and then I started working on a reply on Monday. Pretty furiously, and I ended up with 18 thousand words for heaven’s sake, it in a rather short period of time. So it’s rather intense. I don’t like things hanging out there! You know, when someone posts saying, you know, there’s an automatic feeling:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I just don’t like the idea that it’s sitting out there. So, I mean, I could have taken more time, maybe done a little better job, but and I may revise it in the future. But I wanted to get it out there! I don’t like things sitting out there.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> One thing I loved about your rebuttal and about your writing in general, is the emotional honesty! Like you don’t mind <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[08:02]</strong> </span>putting yourself on the line and using your own life and the most painful parts of your life as examples of your theories.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong><span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>[chuckling]</strong> </span>well, you know, I’m used to it! I’ve been defending myself for 20 years! I mean, not like this quite. But if you go to my website I have a section on replies to my critics. And people have been all over me 20 years. At my university as I said, in the introduction, or footnote. I mean, I was subjected to intense hostility on faculty email lists, and people arguing against different things. They never really went after “<em>Culture of Critique</em>”, but they made points about different things.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I was for a while in the late 90s after the books came out I was on this history email discussion, saying, you know, about jewish history. Somebody got me on there. And boy, that was intense! , because they were really going after me! But,  I answered them as best I could, and I didn’t feel I was being nailed, you know. So I’m used to it! I’ve got a whole folder what I got. It’s called “<em>Defense</em>” where I’ve written all these defenses of my work. And it’s repetitive! So I’ve seen it all, basically.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I’ve been around the block on a lot of these things. And one thing that surprised me about Cofnas is he’d seem to think that having a counterexample, if you find a jew who criticized psychoanalysis, or criticizes Israel, or something, I mean, as if that can refute what I’m saying! I just didn’t understand how you could think that! Because I mean, I have seen it before and it’s remarkable that came up so often in his critique.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah. How much explanatory power does the default hypothesis have for jewish intellectual influence? Does it does it account for 90% of it, do you think?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well, I wouldn’t want to venture a guess on that. I mean, there are a lot of jews, as I say in there, that are do good work. And I think that’s not the issue. The issue, are these particular movements that have been very influential. And I do get into the little bit on the philosophy of science in the middle of it somewhere. I talk about being “<em>falsifiable</em>”, because at one point he said that I’ve never acknowledged any evidence that could refute the theory. And I’ve seen other people say that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it’s so obvious! The way to refute my theory is simply say that I’m wrong about my historical accounts! It’s like any historian. And, you know, what my books are basically, the basic approach is evolutionary psychology, but within that, quite often, history becomes important. In the culture of critique it’s intellectual history. Basically psychoanalysis, Frankfurt School, and so on.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So if you want to show I’m wrong. All you have to do is say well, you know, psychoanalysis is not a jewish movement! Well Cofnas never even tries to do that! He doesn’t even go there! He makes little, you know, forays here and there. And again, when it comes out, and I’ve always done those with my critics. I go through every last point that they make! I don’t leave anything out! And so that’s why they ended up being very long. I mean, I quoted him, and had to write on it, and sometimes, a lot of times I brought in stuff from the books. So it got very lengthy. But, I don’t like to think that:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If I’d written a five-page thing and pointed out a few things, that would be one thing. But I think then I’d be open to that kind of charge. But he made all these claims about “<em>cherry-picking</em>”, and what was the other thing, “<em>misrepresentation</em>”. Well, I went through every one where that was claimed. And I mean, I’d like to see him do the same, because in my reply I said that he’s misinterpreting, misrepresenting what I’m saying, in a number of places. And in one case I did say it was cherry-picking. So I mean, if he wants to repeat what I said, he’s got a job on his hands. But if he wants to do as thorough a job as I did. And we’ll see if he does that. I don’t know if he. I haven’t heard from him since it since I posted my thing.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Did Cofnas in any way make an intellectual contribution to this discussion?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well I didn’t feel it did in the end. He didn’t really engage any of the real thesis of the thing. I mean, one of the most heartening things on Saturday, or Sunday, I got an email from a professor I know. A very well-regarded guy, respected in evolutionary psychology. He said he just didn’t engage any of you main points. He didn’t! So even if he was right about all these things he said, it didn’t really threaten any of the major points. I mean, take psychoanalysis. Did he ever show, did he even try to show that these guys didn’t identify as Jews? No! Did he try to show that they didn’t have a sense of jewish interest? No! And that’s the fundamental thing! Did he try to show that they really didn’t have any influence? Well, that’s absurd in the case of psychoanalysis! Very absurd!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So in a way I was heartened by that, because, very heartened by that! And when I looked through this thing, I had to agree. I mean, I hadn’t even read it all yet. But it just doesn’t do anything. Take the chapter on the Left. Well, it doesn’t show that jewish identification, … he never even raises one example! I’ve got dozens of examples in there! He never gives one example where he says:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well he doesn’t do that! So again, I was feeling that he hadn’t really addressed the point. The points that he did make, were interesting, but they didn’t attack the central thesis, you know. So a lot of it did involve, well, you know, as a misrepresentation you didn’t, you ignored this, or something like that. Okay, I went through that and I think I rebutted it. We will see what happens now.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So how would one falsify your theory of judaism being a group evolutionary strategy?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well it’s like I said a minute ago. You would show that, … the basic idea of a group evolutionary strategy is simply a group that is an effective group in terms of natural selection and evolution. And what that would require, is you have to show that they are able to regulate the behavior of the members of the group. And in my first book “<strong><em>People That Shall Dwell Alone</em></strong>” is about that. It goes into traditional jewish societies. It doesn’t even get to 20th century, it’s almost all the ancient world and so on, and into the 19th and early 20th century, maybe. But if you look at those communities they were very tightly structured! Okay. So the behavior of jews towards each other were highly regulated!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">For example if once you had a business monopoly, a second Jews couldn’t go in there and try to challenge that monopoly. In other words, if it was a fellow jew, they couldn’t do that. So if, for example, a jew failed to pay his taxes, do other things required by the community, well they would punish him. And, you know, in the 19th century in Russia, they had jails in synagogues. And if somebody married a non-jew, well the whole family would be tarnished.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Those are the kinds of things, the kind of sanctions on individual jewish behavior within the community. That is what makes it a group evolutionary strategy, because you’re able to regulate the members of the in-group and prevent cheaters! The problem, you know, the theoretical problem has always been. And that’s how I started out. I do mention that in the rebuttal, in the first couple pages, about how I got to where I am.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Again, a lot of it’s, maybe, in footnotes. But what I say is, that I got the idea of a group evolutionary strategy, I started out I was interested in monogamy. Why is monogamy such a big thing in Western European history? And it’s not the case in so many other cultures. If you look at the Arab world, Africa, China, you don’t see monogamy. And so I ended up seeing that. I noticed that there are a lot of social controls, that people were regulating marriage. The church was regulating marriages.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, I wrote a book in 1988 on developmental psychology. But the last chapter I focused on the Spartans. The ancient Greek Spartans. And you see there’s a very engineered society. It was started by a guy named<strong> <a class="mw-redirect" title="Lycurgus (Sparta)" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycurgus_%28Sparta%29">Lycurgus</a> </strong>who had an idea. I mean, he had a program a blueprint for how this should work. And so Spartan kids were brought up to be soldiers. Their whole life was to be a soldier! They were taken away from their families.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They were, so this was all an engineered thing, in the same way jewish communities you have these religious studies. You teach them these things. And everything in child development is very much programmed. And so I went from the Spartans, and I didn’t really then, really focused on the idea this is a contribution to thinking about humans in evolutionary terms. It really hadn’t been done before. And that is to emphasize the group level., because again it was a heresy back in the 1980s. It was just, you know, everything was individual selection. Groups don’t matter. All groups can be analyzed as a bunch of individuals.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I said no! Human groups are different from animals. We can regulate ourselves in a way from external pressures, these<span style="color: #008000;">  </span>social controls and ideology. And if you look at the Spartans they would have an ideology that would rationalize the whole thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Of course, Judaism have had an ideology of how they rationalize what they did within their communities. But by what they did that within those communities made them effective groups from an evolutionary standpoint, evolutionary selection between groups.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> As jews are now marrying out, well above 50%, does that mean that jews are no longer employing a group evolutionary strategy? Or is it no longer effective? Or is this part of the group evolutionary strategy, marrying non-jews?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yeah well, I think that’s the thing. I mean, the phenomenon of intermarriage is certainly very common in the West now. You could be talking about America and other European based countries. And that’s, because these controls broke down really! I mean, hey, you know, I actually should write about that! Yeah, the point is, in traditional society you couldn’t marry anybody you wanted! That was, you know, if you did, your whole family would be screwed! You know, there was just no way to do that!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Those controls broke down in the 19th century. And the jews was, you know, this was called “<em>emancipation</em>”. They left they the jewish ghettos, they went to the universities, they, you know, did all these things. And when they got out in the real world, they started intermarrying. And they sort of lost those intense community ties.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But if you look in Israel you don’t see intermarriage, because they’re pretty much there with other jews. And it’s interesting that in the early 20th century that was the whole point of Zionism. A very major point of Zionism, as it developed in the early 20th century, was to prevent assimilation and to prevent intermarriage! They could see this happening already in Germany. And they they were thinking that this is the end of Judaism. And you still see that. A lot of jewish activists like, say Alan Dershowitz, they are very concerned that in the long run there won’t be any jews, or there won’t be any sort of ethnic jews. It’s going to change that dramatically.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Is there a certain rate of intermarriage that would invalidate your theory of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy? I mean, if it goes north of 60 percent, if it goes north of 70 percent?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yeah I think it’s interesting, the fact is that what I’ve done, you know. The first book was on traditional societies and most of the second book was really. The third book <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[“<em>The Culture of Critique</em>”]</strong></span> is on really, almost all of it is really on secular Jews, who are not that attached to the jewish community. But they do identify as Jews. And they have a sense of belonging to a jewish community. But it’s not like it was. And in a way what you have to hesitate to say is that Diaspora Judaism in America is a group evolutionary strategy.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I almost hesitate to call it that. I would call it that in traditional societies for sure! That’s the whole point of the first book. And you might even say that in Israel, because they, you know, it’s an ethno-state. But, and in America, certainly there are vestiges of that. But the point of “<em>The Culture of Critique</em>” is that it’s almost like I get out of that framework. And the most important thing is how do these jews, how are they influencing culture?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the fact is, even though they may be intermarried, and maybe they’re not like, Theodor Adorno was only half jewish, I think. And yeah he was very strongly identified as a jew. And so he participated his intellectual movements that I covered. So, was he part of a group evolutionary strategy? Well, I suppose he is. What I’d have to say is that the ones who are participating in the group evolutionary strategy are the strongly identified jews who are actively trying to promote jewish interests as they see them. Of course, there are going to be disputes among them as to what jewish interests are.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I would say that Freud was part of a group evolutionary strategy in the sense that, you know, and intellectuals today. If you look at, say the American, the ADL, say. Someone like Stephen Greenblatt, Abe Foxman. Those guys are strongly identified jews, they are doing what they see as advancing jewish interests. At some point  and another point I think I do make somewhere in the reply, is that if you look at the leadership of the Jewish community, it’s still ethnically jewish. I mean, you look at something like Greenblatt. He’s got two jewish parents, four jewish grandparents all the way back. Abe Foxman. I don’t know of any real leadership position here that’s held by people who are intermarried and so on.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, in any case, I mean, it’s certainly the case that there’s a lot of intermarriage. But even that, a lot of the children of these people do strong identify as Jews, and a lot don’t. And so a lot of them are going to fall by the wayside. They’re not going to be jewish anymore. So, you know, your mom’s jewish and your dad isn’t, then so then you marry a non jew, pretty soon, it’s not going to be there anymore. And your probably not even gonna be welcome in the jewish community.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But at some point it’s gonna dissipate and end really did you got a jewish great-great-great grandparent, so what?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So let’s just say for discussions sake, just to push you on this point. If jewish out marriage rates in the United States climb above 70%, it would be then fair to say that, most jews in the United States and not following a group evolutionary strategy?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yeah i’d probably say most of them are not, but you’d have to interview them and see what they’re up to. You know, I mean, part of it would just be, you know, how strongly do you identify as a Jews? You know, do you, are you active in jewish organizations? Do you like, …, because after all there are two elements of the whole thing. One is genetics, and one is culture. Now for centuries the culture and the genetics were sort of tied together completely! , but that’s not the case so much anymore. But you could have a person who’s a quarter jewish, or something like that, and he strongly identifies as a Jews. But I think most of those people will not, and they will their children will not marry a Jews. And so they’re sort of dropping out of the whole thing.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So, I mean, your theory of Judaism is a group evolutionary strategy does not have to apply it to every single jewish community, like, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Oh no! Not at all.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Much better than other jewish communities. For plenty of jewish communities it’s not going to be a useful tool of analysis. Like you said a jewish community with an 80% intermarriage rate, it’s not really a useful tool for that sort of community. Is that fair?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yeah I mean, 80 percent, yeah, even 60% you’ve got an awful lot of people who don’t identify much anymore. And they’re gonna fall out. And that’s a concern that jewish activists. I know that. I mean, when I wrote the book and it’s interesting, because in 1998 I wrote two books. And they both dealt with that issue that in the last chapter of each of those books.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And at that time there was a lot of writing within the jewish community, in the jewish press. Condemning intermarriage and trying to shore it up. And trying to prevent it., because all the studies started coming out, you know, 30, 40, or 50 percent, you know, at that time 50 percent was, I think, was what people were saying. And then people could hardly believe it. But there’s a real backlash against that attempt to shore it up. Well I guess it failed! It’s gotten worse.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. So there’s a guy in the chatroom who lives in Europe, I don’t believe he’s jewish, but his boss is jewish. And his boss just looks very askance at Zionism.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So in the modern world like after the “<em>Holocaust</em>” we’ve now had a jewish state for approximately 60 plus, 70 years. In this modern world if you have a jewish community where they are opposed to the existence of an ethno-jewish state, you know, currently known as Israel, and then, and that’s widespread, let’s say it’s like 60% of the community, just to use that figure from intermarriage. Does that then challenge the usefulness of the tool of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy, when you have a majority of a jewish community are opposed to the jewish state.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well in the reply I talked about there is a jewish Orthodox, jewish sect that does not accept Israel. Yet they strong identify as jews. It does exist! And there are certainly critics of Israel. One of the points I make in the reply, is that critics of Israel are getting more and more common among jews. I mean, one of the websites I read every day is Mondowiess. A great website! And they’re very critical of Zionism as it exists in Israel now. And these guys are strongly identified as Jews.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Phillip Wiess is the Editor and he’s talks about that. And I think he wants to feel part of the jewish community. But at the same time, he’s a sort of liberal lefty kind of guy. Who can’t stand with what he’s seeing over there. And so he’s very critical. And he probably thinks in the long run, this is not a good strategy for jews. To have a state that’s doing, you know, the ethnic cleansing, they’re taking over the West Bank, they’re seizing more and more land, and annexing, and so on.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And those are the things that are giving Israel a sort of pariah status in the world now! Well if you’re jewish, you gotta say, well either you’re gonna say, well that’s fine, you know. But a lot of jews I think are sort of clenching their teeth and they’re saying, you know:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But again, another point I make though, I think in Israel, within Israel, the fanatics are in charge! And I made that point in response to the review by the “<strong><em>Israel Lobby</em></strong>” the book by Mearsheimer and Walt., because their point, they wanted, they are very critical of Israel and how it’s influenced our foreign policy. And they’re very critical about what Israel’s done to the Palestinians. So what they say is for Israel’s own good they should shape up! And they should stop all this stuff! And, you know, become a sort of regular state. But I don’t see that happening.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what I see is that people like Natalie Bennett is talking about, you know, succeeding Netanyahu. Well, he’s a leader of the secular movement. I think that it’s just going to get more intense as time goes on. I mean, the people having the children over in Israel tend to be the more orthodox. This is the case in this country.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Where in Israel they are coming to a majority there if not already. I don’t think a sort of, you know, the people who started Israel, the so-called labor Zionist, they were very much liberal on the Left and all that and even though, they were aggressive and so on. It’s gotten more intense over the years, obviously, beginning with the Begin government back in 1970. So yeah, I think Israel is getting more extreme. I think it’s going to keep going that way.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> A jewish reader of yours, writes in the chat room:</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well yeah, it is a very good question. What I would hope is that we could have a period where we would sort of give up our individualism, re-establish ourselves, get back on our feet, and then reestablish individualism afterwards. We’re gonna need some cohesion here for a while. We’re going to need some sense of the mission that we have to right things in Europe, and America, Australia, New Zealand, and other places.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I think that’s gonna require more of a collective mentality. And, you know, I’m a northern European. I’m quite individualist, but at the same time I understand the need to sort of submerge myself in a movement! I realized I’m not going to necessarily approve of everything everybody does. I have to look at a lot of different alternatives. But the point is that I’m going to join a more collective society, submerge my individualism a little bit, in order for the greater good.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Right. So if jews are prominently represented on both the hereditarian race realist side, you’ve had a lot of jews speaking at American Renaissance, as well as being prominently represented on the opposite, the egalitarian side. What explanatory power does your theory of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy have, if you have prominent jews, and in numbers, on both sides of the debate such as the hereditarian versus the egalitarian perspective on racial IQ differences?</p>
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<p>Oh! What happened? I lost Kevin MacDonald! Doggone it! Let me throw in an invite back so. Sorry!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Sorry I looked at the thing and it said iI was off and now I realized it wasn’t. Anyway, the answer to your question is, and this came up, you know, in my reply. The question isn’t a matter of counting heads. The question is who’s been influential? And so in chapter two I talk about that, and the point is that the anti-hereditarian have in a very real sense won that day. And the reason they won it is, because of jewish activism.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the prime example is Stephen Jay Gould. I mean, and I give a lot of attention to him in that chapter. He’s been enormously influential. Harvard professor, you know, he also wrote a lot in the popular press. He had a column at Natural History. He became like a superstar, an academic superstar! I saw him talk once, and he was a brilliant speaker! You know, he gave a slide show, he had three screens going, he was very flamboyant and talked with absolute confidence! I’ll never forget it, I’ll never forget!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He said right towards the end, and he’s talking about the human brain, or something. He said:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I just, you know, I’m sitting there in the audience, and I’m saying:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But he said it was such a aplomb! You know, in a roomful of academics and they’re all cheering wildly! I mean, it was like this guy was very, very, effective! So again, it’s the same way with it with Israel! I mean, there are a lot of jews now who are criticizing Israel, but who’s important? AIPAC is important! The Sheldon Adelson is important! Haim Sabin is important! You know, there that’s where the money comes from. And if you should cross AIPAC, you know, if you cross AIPAC you’re gonna be in trouble if your politician. So even if you find a substantial percentage of jews are critical of Israel, or something like that, it may not mean a darn thing! You see what I mean?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You can have people like Nancy Siegel and Richard Herstein, the co-author of “<em>The Bell Curve</em>”. Great scientists! But what happened to “<em>The Bell Curve</em>”? Nothing! Yeah, I mean, aft 20 years, you know, that’s been around since 1994! And it was a huge blow up at the time, but has “<em>The Bell Curve</em>” influenced public policy at all? Has “<em>The Bell Curve</em>” influenced? Charles Murray would be the first to admit this! Herstein had a dialogue on this, a long time ago, around 1994.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So the point is, not how many jews are in which way, whatever movement, the question is who won and why! And so that’s what you have to look at in all these cases, really.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> A question from the chat:</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well I’m not sure. You know, in a way Ashkenazim are White. I mean, there’s a certain substantial European admixture there. Maybe 40 percent, overall. But, you know, if it goes up one 1% a year a generation, over forty generations you’re talking about that. And so there is a substantial admixture. An awful lot of Ashkenazi jews certainly look European. I think of someone like Jon Stewart. I mean, he doesn’t look jewish at all to me. So there are these genetic reasons why you might say that, but what I’ve always said is two things, two points I’d like to make.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">One point is, I think that Jared Taylor may see this is a tactical issue, more than anything else. He realizes that jews are powerful and I think he wants to have a movement trying to recruit White America basically and get ourselves back on our feet. And one way to do that, maybe, is to get jews on our side. And I don’t disagree with that. I think more power to him! If he wins, hey, I’d say:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the other thing is that besides genetics there’s also identity. And the fact is that most jews, you know, the jewish education is geared to seeing jews as a victimized group historically, as a persecuted group. Christianity as a persecuting force, and again I was thinking of Ford, because Ford came up in the reply and, you know, where he talked about the persecuting Catholic Church and seeing the Catholic churches as their enemy. Well, you’re seeing an essential Western institution as an enemy.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, of course, the reason for that is during the Middle Ages some of the Pope’s, not all popes, but some of the Popes were very anti-jewish. You had this in the Spanish Inquisition which had strong religious overtones. You had these Crusaders in the Middle Ages killing jews on the way the Holy Land. So into the present really.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So there is that, there. But what that means is a lot of jews do not identify with Western culture. Even if they are, you know, maybe if they are 60 percent European. Some of them probably are, some of them probably much less. But they psychologically they don’t identify with it. So it’s not just genetics, it’s identity. How you think of yourself.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the fact is, these jews who were involved in these jewish intellectual movements I talked about, were strongly identified as jews. And so that’s the critical thing is jewish identity for them. And that’s where I had to show it in each of those books.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Now, in your chapter on the Frankfurt School, you said that these jewish intellectuals strongly identified as jews. But I believed the only evidence you brought to support that was that they cared about the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. Now you don’t have to strongly identify as a jew to care about the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. So, on what basis do you say that the Frankfurt School intellectuals strongly identified as jews?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Why I have to look over my old chapter again <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>. It is more than that! Believe me. I mean, there was some examples of that.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> I mean, Horkheimer especially. Look at his writings, especially as he got older, very strongly. And you look at the book like “<em>Dialect of the xxx</em>”. I spend a lot of time on that in the reply. I mean, it is such, so obviously an apologetic. You know, it’s an attempt to say basically that, an attempt to account for anti-semitism, but in the most convoluted, weird way!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Where the actual behavior of jews in this historical time doesn’t matter. It’s not like they ever went into something that happened in the 16th century, or the Inquisition, or something, and tried to see what was going on the other side. Instead it was a psychoanalytic. It was just crazy! And that can only happen if you are strongly motivated to vindicate jewish history. And to exculpate any kind of blame for it.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah. It seems though that the Frankfurt School did push the same kind of multicultural agenda both on jews and non-jews. It’s not like they were pushing cohesion, unity, and exclusion for jews, and then the opposite for non-jews. They were, by and large, pushing the same recipe on both jews and non-jews. Would you agree with that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well! Were they pushing it on non-jews? I had sections, let me look at my reply, because they did come up in this whole discussion. Let me see if I can find it. Well at a basic level you had Frankfurt School funded by the American jewish Committee. It’s hard to believe that they had no jewish identification. It’s hard to believe they didn’t care about Jewish continuity. That’s certainly what the American jewish Committee was all about. I have a long section, I’d like to be able to see it, in order to really answer this here, in my reply.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> What chapter is that in “<em>The Culture of Critique?</em>”</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Chapter five, yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Chapter five, okay. Let’s scroll down to, because you do your rebuttal basically chapter by chapter, so that makes it a lot to, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well almost, he went out-of-order. He’d put three after five. Okay, let’s look at the Frankfurt School.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Here, just while you while you’re scanning that, to see what you want to highlight, I just want to bring to attention Nathan’s response to your rebuttal. So Nathan shared with me a draft of his response. He still needs to do more work on it, and he gave me permission to quote from it, but not to share it. So that’s, you know, those of the ground rules that I’m dealing with. And this is Nathan. He’s saying:</p>
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<h3>“That members of the Frankfurt School had a strong reaction to the “Holocaust”, which is hardly surprising, does not mean that they strongly identified as jews, or supported jewish ethnocentrism.”</h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Is this a reply to what I wrote now?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah, yeah he hasn’t published this as yet, so if you feel that I’m engaging in dirty pool, I won’t, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> No. Again, I would like to see what, … I’m scrolling through my own reply here now. Okay I said I do not assume they approve of this behavior simply, because they were jewish. The first part, a strong identification of the jewish principal figures and the group’s most influential work. “<strong><em>The Authoritarian Personality</em></strong>”. Max Horkheimer says “<em>the goal of philosophy is to vindicate jewish history.</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well<strong>,</strong> what do you think that means! I mean, that is strong Jewish identification! This is more than simply concern about the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, for heaven’s sake! Take Adorno, much of Adorno’s later work may be viewed as reaction to the “<em>Holocaust</em>”<span style="color: #008000;">.</span> But that’s Adorno, I suppose. But he seems to be obsessed with that. But again, he also participated in writing “<em>Dialectic of the Enlightenment</em>”. He’s working on a book funded by the American jewish committee, all about anti-Semitism. So I take that as evidence of a strong jewish identity, absolutely!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. Let me read two sentences from your rebuttal, and two sentences from Cofnas’ rebuttal of your rebuttal. And just go from there. So Kevin writes:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“There are really two possibilities here about the Frankfurt school. They realized it was a double standard, but didn’t want to publicize that, for the obvious reason that they would be seen as hypocrites. Or, they were deceiving themselves by simply focusing on White ethnocentrism as pathological, while blocking out any thought about how this presents an intellectual inconsistency i.e., self-deception.”</span></h3>
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<h3>“There is a third possibility. Members of the Frankfurt School opposed ethnocentrism for both jews and Gentiles alike. This third possibility seems especially plausible given that MacDonald has no positive evidence for the first two possibilities, besides the fact that the “Holocaust” loomed large for the Franklin School, which is irrelevant.”</h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> But that is a total gloss on what I’m saying! Good heavens! I mean, I just read you about Max Horkheimer, you know, and the fact that the whole thing is concerned, that the “<em>Authoritarian Personality</em>” is so obsessed with anti-semitism. So to me that’s obvious that they are strongly identified as jews. I just can’t even imagine that they aren’t.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah. When you said that they’re obsessed with anti-semitism, is it possible that they were equally obsessed with anti-racism?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well they certainly are concerned about racism, as they had the ethnocentrism scale, it doesn’t explicitly mention jews. And that is interesting. I think that in general jews have seen a strong correlation, which is the case. And I think it’s a basic idea of the “<em>Authoritarian Personality</em>” is that if you don’t like blacks tb you probably won’t like jews. And so they go together.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> But it’s also, is it also possible that they cared as much about blacks as they cared about Jews?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well, they might have, but, you know, again they’re doing this in my opinion, and I don’t see anything to rebut that, they’re doing this, because they see, because of their jewish identity. And they may well feel strongly about blacks, or something like that, but I do think that they, … and I do think that, some more stuff. The idea that they see a jewish future. They don’t think that the jews are going to stop. That jewish ethnocentrism, and really what it takes is jewish identity, to maintain a jewish future, I don’t think they‘re not opposed to that. And, you know, the group continuity. Well what else is it really? That’s really what it amounts to among jews.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> From an Orthodox perspective the Frankfurt School jews are a bunch of jewish goyim who eat bacon and, you know, we feel nothing in common with them. And, you know, we basically loathe them! How does how does Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy, you know, analyze the other repugnance that Orthodox jews feel for jews like the Frankfurt School?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well, yeah. I mean, there again there are divergences within the jewish community. There always had been, there always will be.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">What you have to do is look at were the influence lies. These Orthodox jews did not do anything about the Frankfurt School. The Frankfurt School were very influential. And so that’s all I’m trying to do in “<em>Culture of Critique</em>”.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">To show that these movements were created by strongly identified jews, and they were successful. Now the fact that some jews didn’t like that, or don’t like Frankfurt school, or people that eat bacon, or something like that, it’s irrelevant to that, really.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[51:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> So you mentioned in the paper that you’re not going to respond to Nathan’s ad hominem attacks. And I just want to read a few sentences here from Nathan. He says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3>“I never made any ad hominem attacks against Kevin MacDonald. My paper does not call him, or his theory anti-semitic, nor does it attribute nefarious motivations to him. However in this reply, it is MacDonald who makes an ad hominem attack against me. He suggests, …”</h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Where’s that?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay:</p>
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<h3>“He suggests that I am motivated to criticize him, because of my jewish ethnicity. As Kevin says, one suspects that Cofnas had a foregone conclusion about “Culture of Critique’s” value. What psychologists term “motivated cognition” which as I attempt to demonstrate was characteristic of the jewish intellectuals reviewing “Culture of Critique” like the hyper purist discussed in several places in “Culture of Critique” he was looking for ways to condemn research he didn’t like of deeper reason.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So were you were you arguing here in your rebuttal that Cofnas was motivated to criticize you and denounce you, because Cofnas is jewish?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well, yeah, I mean, I you want to call that “<em>ad hominem</em>”. What I’m saying is that I think it’s motivated, I think it’s strongly motivated. What I resented was him calling me incompetent. What I resented was saying I was full of misrepresentations. False! That I was cherry-picking right and left. False! I mean, he was saying all kind of things that we’re just really disrespectful! And just trying to make me out to be some kind of an idiot! And I just really resented the tone of this thing, to tell you the truth!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I had one sentence at the end where I where I suggested that he’s motivated by his ethnicity, which is the case. I suggested, I didn’t, you know, say<span style="color: #008000;">  </span>it was some kind of a knockdown argument, obviously. But he did not engage any of the basic ideas. Come on! What are you doing? And he thinks he’s refuted me? Come on, it’s ridiculous!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> You knew “<em>The Culture of Critique</em>” was incendiary, so what sort of reaction did you expect of the book?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well I didn’t know. I thought that maybe I would get condemned, or get bad reviews, or something. But what was interesting was, nothing happened. And so I think Cofnas mentioned Frank Salter’s review, and that was about it. And yeah, so obviously it was quite different with the first two books, especially the first book. It got positive reviews and everything. I mean, it was a surprise. I didn’t know quite what to expect but then it pretty obvious there was going to be silence.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Yeah. Now you write in your rebuttal:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I began to see myself as having a dog in this fight.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Once you worked on your immigration chapter of “<strong><em>The Culture of Critique</em></strong>”.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong></p>
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<h3>“and what was happening was from an evolutionary perspective, a disaster of the White people of the West! Ethnic displacement is like reducing an extended family, or other lineages. It is a drastic loss of fitness as Frank Salter has shown. Really no different from displacement of one subspecies, or species, …”</h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> That is just a typo there.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong></p>
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<h3>“… this is natural selection in action, though it’s hard to call the process natural, because it’s a consciously engineered process”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is Nathan’s response:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3>“Later in this reply MacDonald argues that some jews, such as Alan Dershowitz, support multiracial immigration to advance jewish interests as they understand them. But here he acknowledges the obvious point that multiracial immigration to a country which he equates with ethnic displacement, opposes the ethnic interest of the majority inhabitants of the country.”</h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So were you inconsistent here?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>[55:10]</strong></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> What do you mean? How my interests are what?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, so in your rebuttal you make the point that ethnic displacement is reducing, is like reducing an extended family.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. So when Alan Dershowitz supports multiracial immigration to Israel, to advance jewish interests, as he understands that. This multiracial immigration is the same sort of ethnic displacement that you would decrying in the West.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well, yeah absolutely! And the response to that is simply again, there are differences of opinion among jews! You have to look at where the power is! And Alan Dershowitz does not have any power over Israeli immigration policy, pretty obviously! Because right now Israel is expelling Africans right and left. And they are very strong, you know, restrictions on who can come into Israel. So, I don’t care.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, there are a lot of reasons why Alan Dershowitz might have those opinions. And I mentioned that in my reply. He may think that, well it’s good PR, you know, that Israel still depends on the West, we can’t have this image of being racist. We can’t have this image that Judaism is all about genetics. And he might even think that it’s, you know, crazy in the long run! All right, and the other thing he may well think, well 2% is no big deal! I mentioned that. So I don’t know what his motives are, but it doesn’t matter!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The point is that Israeli policy is to create and maintain and ethno-state and they are succeeding at that! Admitting 2% of Ethiopians, or something like that, it’s not going to change that. And as also said, the Ethiopians are on the fringes of society over there. They are not being integrated. A lot of Israelis hate that. And some religious authorities think they’re not even really jewish. Well it’s not exactly a warm welcome!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, you know, again what matters is where the power is! Not, you know, counting heads, like even famous heads like, Chomsky, or Dershowitz, or something like that, to see where the power is. It’s empirical, you know. It’s not like I <span style="color: #008000;"> </span>have a theory of what all jews do every time! You know, the theory is descriptive, to see where the power is. Whether it’s an influential intellectual movement like psychoanalysis, or the Frankfurt School, or Israeli immigration policy, or jewish influence on immigration policy in America. That’s all I’m trying to do! Yeah I don’t get that the thrust of that argument at all.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, so I believe that Nathan will publish his rebuttal later this week, but gave me an advance look at a draft,</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you Kevin write:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I see the jewish community as having important diversity of viewpoint.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> And Nathan says:</p>
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<h3>“Any reasonable interpretation of MacDonald would clearly put limits on the diversity of viewpoint that we would expect to find among jewish ethnic activists. When jews are over-represented among the leadership of violently opposing movement, for example, the pro-Israel lobby versus Boycott Divest Sanction movement, opponents versus advocates of free speech, this does not fit in any obvious way with MacDonald’s theory.</h3>
<h3></h3>
<h3>Should we expect Jews to cluster around those movements that actually advance their group interests? MacDonald claims that jews disagree about how to advance their common ethnic interests and this is why they are often the leaders both of movements and the movements opposition.</h3>
<h3></h3>
<h3>This implies that a large percentage of jews not only fail to determine what is in their best interests, but are actively working against those interests by opposing the movement that would actually advanced them. Isn’t jewish over-representation in opposing movements evidence in favor of the default hypothesis?”</h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> No! It’s not! Again, as I said, a minute ago, what we’re looking at is where the power is!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[60:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Jews have different opinions about where, what to do, and so on, and for all I know, you know, at some point the BDS movement may win. But the point is it’s a jewish, if you are correct. I mean, my impression is there may be jewish leadership, but a lot of it’s Palestinian and other people who are really sort of carrying the weight. But in any case, say it is a jewish movement, and you’ve got opposing jewish movements. Fine! And you’ve got opposing jewish religious movements in a sense, you know, their different views and things.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But if you’re looking at say something like American immigration policy, or our policy towards Israel. Does it matter that you’ve got a BDS movement? If the BDS movement can’t influence American foreign policy in the least? Not at all! Doesn’t matter! And they may succeed at some point, so this is gonna change.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[61:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s why I say, this is not a predictive theory. I can’t predict where this is going to go. The BDS movement may get powerful enough to sway American companies to change their attitude, and then you have these elites in the United States really pressuring the government to, you know, stop supporting Israel so much. We’ll see what happens! Who knows what will happen? It’s up in the air.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the point is that you have to look at these movements, see where the power is, and ask yourself is it a jewish movement? Are they advancing their version of jewish interests? Who’s winning and who’s losing? So it’s the same thing with immigration policy. You could, you can find jews who are opposed to immigration, open immigration, certainly.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I talk about Stephen Steinlight in my and my response. He’s a lone figure and it’s hard to fight any a significant jewish group. I can’t think of it. There there are none! But there are few jews who are opposed to open border kind of immigration. Larry Auster was very effective! And at the end of his life, you know, he talked about how jews were so central to the whole thing. To the movement for open borders.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Kevin-MacDonald-NPI-2016-2789-Lawrence-Auster.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-26369" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Kevin-MacDonald-NPI-2016-2789-Lawrence-Auster.jpg" alt="" width="621" height="604" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Kevin-MacDonald-NPI-2016-2789-Lawrence-Auster.jpg 621w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Kevin-MacDonald-NPI-2016-2789-Lawrence-Auster-600x584.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 621px) 100vw, 621px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So you have these individual jews and maybe even at some point, I guess FAIR the American, the organization called FAIR. It’s an acronym for immigration reform Federation for American Immigration Reform, or something. At the head of that is a guy named Stein. Okay, that’s nice. But FAIR is not a jewish intellectual movement! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong> </span>it’s headed by a jew and he’s not even typical of the jewish community by any means.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So we’ll see! At some point, you know, I know I also made a note of that. Jews had to make change on immigration. In the UK I can certainly understand why they would. You got someone like Pamela Geller, you know, she can’t stand Muslims! And, you know, the reason is because, you know, she’s very strong identified jew. She does not want Muslims in these European countries! She thinks it’s a disaster for Jews. And I think she’s probably right. And what you see in the UK is that Muslims are getting more and more power, you know, especially with the Labour Party. They have been called anti-semitic, and this and that and everything else. But the reason is, because Muslims are a significant force now for labor.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">What you see is sort of like in America where the Labor Party is losing the support of White Britons. They are going for the Conservative Party, and the Labour Party is getting more non-White. So Jeremy Corbyn is very anti-Israel, or at least very critical of Israel. I don’t know his exact position. But we’ll see what happens. We have to see who is good at winning and then is this a jewish movement and are they successful?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> I’m probably repeating myself here, but I’m gonna risk looking stupid. You said that your theory of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy does not have predictive power, or value then what is the value if it isn’t if it doesn’t help, you know, either predict the future, or to better understand patterns in the past?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well I think we better understand things, absolutely! I mean, you talk about the default hypothesis. Well it’s a vast improvement on the default hypothesis if you can show that these movements were fundamentally motivated by jewish interests and jewish identity. And that’s a fundamental advance over the default hypothesis.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[65:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it’s not predictive. How could it be? I mean, I talk about that explicitly in the article. I say so sort of like predicting the weather in Los Angeles in ten years on September 9th! You know, I mean, that’s ridiculous! They can’t do that, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a weather science. And so when you describe things and try to understand how they happen, that’s all historians ever try to do, I’m embedding mine ultimately in evolutionary psychology, of evolutionary biology.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s a little different from standard history. But historians don’t really try to predict the future. They try to explain the past. What causes what, and I’m happy to just say leave it at that. That’s enough of an accomplishment.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I can’t keep going for too much longer, because my wife, …</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay! Okay. So I’ll tell you what, I’ll just read a final point by Nathan.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ford:</strong> And you can say “<em>I’ve already answered that</em>”, whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you wrote:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Jewish support for any particular idea, or cause will be sensitive to each generations perceived interest, given changing circumstances. Cofnas has a static ahistorical conception of jewish interests.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Nathan responds:</p>
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<h3>“The examples of jewish disagreement that I give are not comparing jews in different historical periods, but comparing jews in the same periods. We cannot explain these disagreements by appealing to the fact that historical circumstances change and call for different strategies.”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Well there are several times in his review that he acts as if Zionism is sort of an essential. You know, that Jewish strategy is essential to being jewish. That’s ridiculous!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, his criticism on Freud, he says something like, what was it, he said Freud in 1929, there was a riot in Jerusalem, and Freud would not sign a petition, or something like that. They just sort of put it on the Arabs. And so that meant that Freud was not much of an ethnic activist, or you didn’t care about jewish interests.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">But again not all people, especially 1929, would have seen it that way. And even if you’re a Zionist, someone like Philip Weiss is a Zionist, in a way. He’s critical of Israel but he’s not like he’s he wants Israel to stop being Israel! He wants it to soften. And Freud may have been the same way.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">As I said, about Freud motives, well he may have thought that, you know, you talked about the fanaticism of our people. Well sometimes yeah you can blame your own people for getting out of control a little bit. It’s a bad strategy! You know, zionists have pursued a lot of different strategies in the early years, and still does.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">And you don’t have to agree with all of them. And maybe they thought that what happened there in Jerusalem was part of the jews fault, and that we shouldn’t do that. So he’s not going to sign this petition. Doesn’t mean he’s not a zionist. It certainly doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a strong jewish identity, a sense of jewish interest. But he’s got his own interpretation!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Again, you have to see where the power is! Where the influence is! Where, who’s running the show! I when it comes to influencing US foreign policy it’s AIPAC. It’s neocon! It’s sympathetic jews like Haim Sabin for the Democratic Party. They’re the ones that are pulling the weight, and they’re strong identified as jews. They have a strong sense of what Israeli interests are. And jewish interests are supporting Israel. They’re right now in the driver’s seat, aren’t they? Well, then that may change. And I can’t predict the future.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Ford:</strong> Well okay. Thank you Kevin! I hope you feel that I treated you fairly. I mean, we’ve done a lot, …</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Yeah I didn’t expect this, but it’s really good to get it out.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay, thank you so much for your time Kevin. I really appreciate it.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Thank you, I enjoyed it myself. Thank you.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Ford:</strong> Okay. Take care. Bye bye. So that was Kevin MacDonald the retired psychology professor and author of “<em>The Culture of Critique</em>” series, a jewish trilogy did and we’re dealing with the Nathan Cofnas critique of the Kevin MacDonald book, “<em>The Culture of Critique</em>”. And I invited Nathan Cofnas to come on the show, after checking with Kevin MacDonald. And Kevin MacDonald was absolutely fine with me inviting Nathan Cofnas on the show. But due to the time zone that Nathan Cofnas is in right now, this just did not work for him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">But Nathan did share with me a draft of his rebuttal to Kevin MacDonald’s rebuttal. And I’m not allowed to share this draft, but I am allowed to quote from it. So I’m gonna read a little of Kevin MacDonald and then I’m gonna read from Nathan Cofnas’ critique. And obviously I am a convert to Orthodox Judaism. I have a dog in this fight. I prefer positive explanations of jewish history and jewish behavior rather than negative ones.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[70:45]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Nathan Cofnas, who appeared later in the Hangout. <strong><br />
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<p><span style="color: #008000;">[Note: The hangout continued for another couple of hours with Cofnas appearing around the 138 minute mark.]</span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; &#160; [Quietly spoken YouTuber, Way of the World (WotW), gently puts the boot into the Left&#8217;s empty rhetoric that never challenges the actual  ideas of nationalists, but just name calls, while only offering more degeneracy and destruction of &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2017/10/14/way-of-the-world-why-the-alt-right-will-win-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><span class="Apple-style-span">[Quietly spoken YouTuber, <em><strong>Way of the World</strong></em> (WotW), gently puts the boot into the Left&#8217;s empty rhetoric that never challenges the actual  ideas of nationalists, but just name calls, while only offering more degeneracy and destruction of our societies as originally formulated by jewish &#8220;<em>intellectual</em>&#8221; movements like the <strong>Frankfurt School</strong>. That we have truth on our side leads WotW to the conclusion that we will win — KATANA.]</span></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>Published on October 3, 2017</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">WotW looks at the latest attempted hit-piece against the alt-right and why we mustn&#8217;t lose heart. Please support this channel at: <a class="yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=mhnfs2lg5CE&amp;redir_token=VLmt4vi1Vcag3Qj6q5r_hTav-mt8MTUwNzY5MDMxN0AxNTA3NjAzOTE3&amp;event=video_description&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fwayoftheworld">https://www.patreon.com/wayoftheworld</a> or by using the PayPal link on the channel homepage. <a class="yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=mhnfs2lg5CE&amp;redir_token=VLmt4vi1Vcag3Qj6q5r_hTav-mt8MTUwNzY5MDMxN0AxNTA3NjAzOTE3&amp;event=video_description&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fwayoftheworld%2F">https://www.facebook.com/wayoftheworld/</a> <a class="yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=mhnfs2lg5CE&amp;redir_token=VLmt4vi1Vcag3Qj6q5r_hTav-mt8MTUwNzY5MDMxN0AxNTA3NjAzOTE3&amp;event=video_description&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.minds.com%2FWayoftheWorld">https://www.minds.com/WayoftheWorld</a> <a class="yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=mhnfs2lg5CE&amp;redir_token=VLmt4vi1Vcag3Qj6q5r_hTav-mt8MTUwNzY5MDMxN0AxNTA3NjAzOTE3&amp;event=video_description&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitchute.com%2Fchannel%2Fwayoftheworld%2F">https://www.bitchute.com/channel/wayo&#8230;</a> <a class="yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=mhnfs2lg5CE&amp;redir_token=VLmt4vi1Vcag3Qj6q5r_hTav-mt8MTUwNzY5MDMxN0AxNTA3NjAzOTE3&amp;event=video_description&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fgab.ai%2FWayoftheWorld">https://gab.ai/WayoftheWorld</a> <a class="yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=mhnfs2lg5CE&amp;redir_token=VLmt4vi1Vcag3Qj6q5r_hTav-mt8MTUwNzY5MDMxN0AxNTA3NjAzOTE3&amp;event=video_description&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fvid.me%2FWay_of_the_World">https://vid.me/Way_of_the_World</a></p>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">TRANSCRIPT</span></h1>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4336-right-wing-watch.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16031" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4336-right-wing-watch.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="443" /></a></p>
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<p>So you probably saw the latest hit piece on the Alt-right from <strong>Right Wing Watch</strong>. It was the same old stuff we’ve seen before, profiling some of the leading voices of our movement, calling them extremists, and making compilations of quotations that frankly sounded, entirely reasonable. The piece also featured some other people who, whilst not in our movement, sometimes enter our orbit for various reasons, and who are laughingly called in the piece, “<em>Enable of Hate</em>”.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4337-white-extremists-become-youtube-famous.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16032" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4337-white-extremists-become-youtube-famous.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="697" /></a></p>
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<p>I’m afraid I couldn’t help, but belly laugh when I saw Sargon’s face staring back at me under that banner.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4339-people-who-enable-hate-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16033" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4339-people-who-enable-hate-1.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="644" /></a></p>
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<p>It’s just another day in “<em>clown world</em>”.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4340-people-who-enable-hate-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16034" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4340-people-who-enable-hate-2.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="657" /></a></p>
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<p>So this is just the latest piece of facile posturing, even against those who are simply willing to have a conversation with us and test the merits of our beliefs. I’ve said before that the left, at least those who are leading it and setting the agenda, know the threat we represent. The truth is pure poison to them. And they know we have it. And they know that once people are exposed to it, they will come our way. They are right to be scared and desperate.</p>
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<p>Take for example, <strong>Sargon’s</strong> latest interview with<strong> Jared Taylor</strong>. Anyone even slightly reasonable watching it would have absorbed solid information and argumentation about race realism. Sargon deserves credit for giving Jared his time. But the left is correct. Sargon got trounced, and indeed opened the door to the Alt-right for hundreds of thousands of new people. He enabled “<em>hate</em>”, or rather he enabled the free expression of the truth of the natural world that we espouse. You don’t win debates against Jared Taylor. You simply try to limit the damage.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4341-jared-taylor-and-sargon-of-akkad.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16035" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4341-jared-taylor-and-sargon-of-akkad.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="422" /></a></p>
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<p>So, it’s small wonder then, that the left, or anyone else so rarely opens the door to us. The truth that underpins our movement is something they need to keep contained at all costs. This is why they shout “<em>Nazi</em>” at everyone who is even remotely conservative, now. There is a reason so much time, effort, and money has been invested in making the word “<em>Nazi</em>” so powerful. And that is, because it was always intended to service as the justification for every leftist degradation of the West, since World War Two.</p>
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<p>The thing is, they’ve broken one of their cardinal rules, as laid out in <strong>Saul Alinsky’s</strong> book “<strong><em>Rules for Radicals</em></strong>”. Rule number seven:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Don’t become old news.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Screaming “<em>racist Nazi</em>”, ad nauseam, just doesn’t have the power it once did, at least outside the media, hence our movement. They have become “<em>old news</em>”.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4345-rules-for-radicals-saul-alinsky.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16037" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4345-rules-for-radicals-saul-alinsky.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="607" /></a></p>
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<p>The very troubling consequences of multiculturalism have now become so undeniable that more and more people are seeing our positions as perfectly rational. We are now the “<em>radical alternative</em>” for the West, not the tired old Left with it’s burgeoning degeneracy, it’s Zionist funding, and lies. What does it have to offer the West for it’s future?</p>
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<p>Well this:</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4347-black-invaders-on-boat.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16038" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4347-black-invaders-on-boat.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="548" /></a></p>
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<p>This;</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4349-i-am-a-slut.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16036" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4349-i-am-a-slut.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="543" /></a></p>
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<p>This;</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4351-nigger-jumping-on-police-car.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16039" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4351-nigger-jumping-on-police-car.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="632" /></a></p>
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<p>This;</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4353-gay-boy-at-parade.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16040" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4353-gay-boy-at-parade.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="719" /></a></p>
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<p>This;</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4355-muslims-praying-in-french-street.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16041" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4355-muslims-praying-in-french-street.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="627" /></a></p>
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<p>And this;</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4357-fat-black-woman-bitching.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16042" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4357-fat-black-woman-bitching.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="536" /></a></p>
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<p>This is what it has to offer! How’s that future going to work out for your children?</p>
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<p>So the reason why, ultimately the left will lose, and we will win, is, because it can’t have this conversation with us. To do so would be to simply sink it’s own ship! It’s still clinging to the hope that people will agree with it out of habit, or fear. But that’s no longer enough.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4365-earth-from-space.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16047" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4365-earth-from-space.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="366" /></a></p>
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<p>This hit piece by Right Wing Watch contains not even the briefest attempt to counter the logic of our narrative. Therefore, it’s not actually a “<em>hit piece</em>” against us at all, but rather a demonstration of the left’s inability to respond intelligently to the resurgent Right.</p>
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<p>The Left is fundamentally dishonest and confused. It’s hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness know no bounds. Have a look at this clip:</p>
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<p>Male presenter:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>But you understand that race and color is much more than skin-deep. It’s heritage, and pedigree, and tradition, and history, and struggle! It’s all of those things that you can’t hope to get anywhere near with three tanning injections!</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>So when we Whites say “<em>our race matters</em>” then they call us Nazis. When non-Whites say “<em>their race matters</em>” they are called heroes. Everyone’s race matters, except ours! The left cannot win on consistency, coherence, or facts. And as they say, “<em>the truth will out</em>”.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4366-herbert-marcuse-giving-speech-london-1967-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16049" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4366-herbert-marcuse-giving-speech-london-1967-1.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="557" /></a></p>
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<p>It was the work of the neo-Marxist <strong>Frankfurt School,</strong> which was composed overwhelmingly of jewish intellectuals, that laid the foundation for this apparent leftist insanity, around 60 to 70 years ago. It was <strong>Herbert Marcuse</strong> of the Frankfurt School that came up with the doctrine of “<em>repressive tolerance</em>”. In his essay of the same name, he wrote, and I quote:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Liberating tolerance then, would mean intolerance against movements from the Right, and toleration of movements from the Left. In past and different circumstances the speeches of the fascist and Nazi leaders were the immediate prologue to the massacre. The distance between the propaganda and the action, between the organization and it’s release on the people, had become too short. But the spreading of the word, could have been stopped before it was too late. If democratic tolerance had been withdrawn when the future leaders started their campaign, mankind would have had the chance of avoiding Auschwitz, and a World War.</em>” unquote.</p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4367-herbert-marcuse-giving-speech-london-1967-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16050" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4367-herbert-marcuse-giving-speech-london-1967-2.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="638" /></a></p>
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<p>“<em>Repressive tolerance</em>” then is the doctrine of tearing down the institutions that built and sustained the West, in order to advance some illusory vision of social justice. It is simply a wrecking ball, fueling racial and social conflict, with no vision of how to build anything credible in its place. It is ultimately a nihilistic philosophy, based on bitterness, and despair.</p>
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<p>I don’t know whether Marcuse really believed his own theory. I doubt it. My own feeling is that he was a master manipulator who hated the West and understood the destructive potential of youth. Either way, today’s leftist hysterics and treasonous anti-nationalism, are directly traceable back to Marcuse’s work.</p>
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<p>The Left believes, or at least pretends to believe, that society is only ever a hair’s breadth away from the outbreak of fascism, and this is what justifies their repressive tactics. The irony of that, is, by the way, it is behaving, it seems to be doing everything it can to bring that about. The left believes that it alone holds the key to the intellectual liberation of humanity, and that Western conservatism is the darkness that keeps people enslaved, particularly these so-called marginalized groups. The only way to liberate the human mind from the conditioning of Western civilization then, is to overtly favor these groups and rebel against anything and everything emanating from the Western tradition.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4368-why.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16051" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4368-why.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="644" /></a></p>
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<p>The Frankfurt School’s radical egalitarianism can only be achieved by making the “<em>oppressor</em>” the “<em>oppressed</em>” and vice versa. This is why the left tells us that blacks can never be racist. Why third-world migrants should be welcomed regardless of our ability to cope with them. Why affirmative action is the moral thing to do. Why Islam is a religion of peace, regardless of how many of our people Muslims rape and murder. Why deliberately infecting someone with HIV should no longer be a felony. Why national borders are inherently racist. Why being a stay-at-home mom is to be a failure as a woman. Why it’s okay for children to decide whether they are male, or female. And why White men are the last social group that can justifiably and openly be targeted.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4369-why.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16052" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4369-why.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="643" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4370-why.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16053" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4370-why.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="562" /></a></p>
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<p>Could it be any clearer that this is precisely the strategy the left is currently following?</p>
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<p>So don’t look for reason on the Left, because you won’t find it!</p>
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<p>But I believe, that some are not beyond help. So we should not stop reaching out to people like Sargon and his viewership, people on the moderate left, and civic nationalists. And we must continue to press home our natural advantage in debate whenever we can.</p>
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<p>If any leftists are watching this, I ask you to look at the contradictions and lunacy of your beliefs, and at the fevered irrationality of the way you and your colleagues behave. The Alt-right stands for the preservation of Western civilization, the envy of the world, and the irreplaceable White race that built it.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4371-antifa.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16054" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/why-the-alt-right-will-win-4371-antifa.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="592" /></a></p>
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<p>Don’t destroy it over some misguided notion of compassion, or justice! The damage you are doing is incalculable! If having an honest conversation with us means exposing truths that make you uncomfortable, then you should examine the truth of your own beliefs about the world and how it really is.</p>
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<p>Be on the right side of history!</p>
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<p>Until next time, be well.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Here, Canadian Prof. Phillipe J. Rushton at the Amren Conference 2000, reports on his travels to South Africa to find out for himself whether studies showing that Africans have an average IQ of 70, is true or not. &#160; &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2017/05/25/do-africans-really-have-an-iq-of-70-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Here, Canadian Prof. Phillipe J. Rushton at the Amren Conference 2000, reports on his travels to South Africa to find out for himself whether studies showing that Africans have an average IQ of 70, is true or not.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The very idea that there are differences in intelligence between the races has been made into a taboo topic by organized jewry, turning commonsense on its head and forcing people to believe nonsense about “<em>racial equality</em>”. One main purposes why organized jewry pushes this propaganda lie about the “<em>equality of races</em>” is to remove objections from White people to the flooding of their society with masses of low IQ blacks and browns. This is why rare academics, like Rushton, who tell the truth about racial differences are vilified in our jewish controlled media — KATANA.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Do-Africans-Really-Have-an-IQ-of-70-—-VIDEO.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21548" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Do-Africans-Really-Have-an-IQ-of-70-—-VIDEO.jpg" alt="" width="653" height="552" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Do-Africans-Really-Have-an-IQ-of-70-—-VIDEO.jpg 653w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Do-Africans-Really-Have-an-IQ-of-70-—-VIDEO-300x254.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 653px) 100vw, 653px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxAhwYoZQKU">Do Africans Really Have an IQ of 70?</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-6353-Video-removed-for-hate-Speech.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21553" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-6353-Video-removed-for-hate-Speech.jpg" alt="" width="848" height="473" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-6353-Video-removed-for-hate-Speech.jpg 848w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-6353-Video-removed-for-hate-Speech-300x167.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 848px) 100vw, 848px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[As of Sep 2019, video removed from YouTube for violating its policy on &#8220;<em>hate speech</em>&#8220;. To find an alternative upload do a search on YouTube or Bitchute for &#8220;<em>Do Africans Really Have an IQ of 70</em>&#8220;]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">An except from Prof. J. Philippe Rushton’s speech given at the <strong>Fourth American Renaissance Conferenc</strong>e in 2000.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Ranging from original IQ testing in the classrooms of South African universities to the study of anatomy, Rushton once more details racial differences and explains why they are important. His latest research supports the findings that the average African IQ is 70.</p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Do Africans Really<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Published on Apr 14, 2013</strong></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">TRANSCRIPT</span></h1>
<p style="text-align: center;">(12:25 mins)</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[00:00]</strong></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2656-Phillip-Rushton-at-Amren-2000.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21529" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2656-Phillip-Rushton-at-Amren-2000.jpg" alt="" width="865" height="715" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2656-Phillip-Rushton-at-Amren-2000.jpg 865w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2656-Phillip-Rushton-at-Amren-2000-300x248.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2656-Phillip-Rushton-at-Amren-2000-768x635.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 865px) 100vw, 865px" /></a></p>
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<p>Thank you very much. It’s a pleasure to be here again. The first slide is actually a postcard from South Africa, which I was very fortunate to be able to visit, about a year and a half ago. The New South Africa. It is a fascinating country. When you arrive in Johannesburg, as I did, you see a very modern skyline. In fact, it’s very undifferentiated from any American city, or Canadian city.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2657-slide-of-Johannesberg.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21530" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2657-slide-of-Johannesberg.jpg" alt="" width="856" height="709" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2657-slide-of-Johannesberg.jpg 856w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2657-slide-of-Johannesberg-300x248.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2657-slide-of-Johannesberg-768x636.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 856px) 100vw, 856px" /></a></p>
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<p>The roads are big super highways and the motor cars are modern. Even the people on the streets and driving the cars, for the most part are indistinguishable from North America.</p>
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<p>On the other hand, South Africa is a city of, a country of contrasts, and there’s a great deal of traditional society as well.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2658-traditional-Africans-at-a-market.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21531" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2658-traditional-Africans-at-a-market.jpg" alt="" width="958" height="714" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2658-traditional-Africans-at-a-market.jpg 958w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2658-traditional-Africans-at-a-market-300x224.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2658-traditional-Africans-at-a-market-768x572.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 958px) 100vw, 958px" /></a></p>
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<p>And the reason I was in South Africa, is, because of this particular chart which summarizes IQ scores that Professor Richard Lynn alluded to in his talk, based on his review, which was published in 1991.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2694-Bar-Chart-Averages-in-IQ-Scores-Asians-Whites-US-blacks-African.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21542" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2694-Bar-Chart-Averages-in-IQ-Scores-Asians-Whites-US-blacks-African.jpg" alt="" width="751" height="829" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2694-Bar-Chart-Averages-in-IQ-Scores-Asians-Whites-US-blacks-African.jpg 751w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2694-Bar-Chart-Averages-in-IQ-Scores-Asians-Whites-US-blacks-African-272x300.jpg 272w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 751px) 100vw, 751px" /></a></p>
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<p>East Asians, both here in the United States and Canada, as well as in their home continents, as Chinese, Japanese and Koreans, average a slightly higher IQ than do White people. Now the average I have there is 106. Sometimes you see the average a little bit lower, around 103. Whites average about 100. A few estimates may place it a little bit higher and say 103. Black Americans average about 85. And again blacks in Canada, or Britain, or in the Caribbean, average around 85, to maybe slightly higher, up as high as 90.</p>
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<p>But is the very far bar on that graph which has excited a lot of controversy, the IQ of 70. Because an IQ of 70 is the lowest IQ ever found in the world. And it’s based on twenty to thirty different studies from East, South, West and Central Africa.</p>
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<p>And it really doesn’t seem to change, even if you select the population to be studied from people in primary school, people who have got jobs, people in urban centers. In other words, samples that might be thought to have a slightly higher IQ. The average of 70 to maybe 75 consistently comes out.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2703-Book-The-Bell-Curve.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21543" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2703-Book-The-Bell-Curve.jpg" alt="" width="1173" height="746" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2703-Book-The-Bell-Curve.jpg 1173w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2703-Book-The-Bell-Curve-300x191.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2703-Book-The-Bell-Curve-768x488.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2703-Book-The-Bell-Curve-1024x651.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1173px) 100vw, 1173px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Add. Image] The Bell Curve and its authors, Murray and Herrnstein.</span></p>
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<p>When “<strong><em>The Bell Curve</em></strong>” was published in 1994 this really elevated Richard Lynn’s review to international appraisal. And a lot of people in the United States were outraged! And very, very critical!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2707-Black-and-White-IQ-Distribution-in-America.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21544" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2707-Black-and-White-IQ-Distribution-in-America.jpg" alt="" width="1032" height="815" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2707-Black-and-White-IQ-Distribution-in-America.jpg 1032w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2707-Black-and-White-IQ-Distribution-in-America-300x237.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2707-Black-and-White-IQ-Distribution-in-America-768x607.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2707-Black-and-White-IQ-Distribution-in-America-1024x809.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1032px) 100vw, 1032px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Add. Image] The Black and White IQ distributions in America in the NLSY study, as per The Bell Curve.</span></p>
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<p>In fact, they trashed “<strong><em>The Bell Curve</em></strong>” and my own book, partly, because we discussed as a serious piece of data, the average IQ of 70. Indeed, some members who of the academic community who were in favor of “<strong><em>The Bell Curve</em></strong>” decided that this was an embarrassment to their perspective. They actually argued something like:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“Look, perhaps within the academic and intelligentsia circles of America, with &#8216;<strong>The Bell Curve</strong>&#8216; behind us, we just might be able to convince people that IQ is a predictive variable. That it’s partly heritable, that there is a black White difference for whatever reason. But how on earth are we ever going to make headway when there are these extremists, like Richard Lynn and Phil Rushton, &#8230;”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And depending on which side they got out of the bed that morning:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“&#8230; Charles Murray and Arthur Jensen, who actually take this seriously, that the Africans have an IQ as low as 70 to 75?”</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2691-closeup-of-Bar-Chart-Averages-in-IQ-Scores.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21539" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2691-closeup-of-Bar-Chart-Averages-in-IQ-Scores.jpg" alt="" width="720" height="763" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2691-closeup-of-Bar-Chart-Averages-in-IQ-Scores.jpg 720w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2691-closeup-of-Bar-Chart-Averages-in-IQ-Scores-283x300.jpg 283w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px" /></a></p>
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<p>I should put it into context. If White people in Canada, or the United States have an IQ of 70, this is considered borderline mentally retarded. So, to label an entire continent as having an average IQ of 70, in which case fifty percent of the African population fall below an IQ of 70, fifty percent of the African continent by White standards is mentally retarded, is the sort of “<em>preposterous sounding</em>” rhetoric that academics have to face.</p>
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<p>So, what’s the cause of that IQ of 70? Can it be real, or is it somehow false?</p>
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<p>So I went to South Africa essentially in search of a high IQ African population. I decided I really needed for my own sake to at least satisfy myself, as to what the true, well, what the true African IQ score was. Had Richard Lynn underestimated the African IQ?</p>
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<p>So I searched for a top university within Johannesburg.*</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2661-Outside-Johannesberg-Unniversity.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21532" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2661-Outside-Johannesberg-Unniversity.jpg" alt="" width="886" height="713" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2661-Outside-Johannesberg-Unniversity.jpg 886w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2661-Outside-Johannesberg-Unniversity-300x241.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2661-Outside-Johannesberg-Unniversity-768x618.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 886px) 100vw, 886px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg, is a multi-campus South African public research university situated in the northern areas of central Johannesburg. It is more commonly known as Wits University. The university has its roots in the mining industry, as do Johannesburg and the Witwatersrand in general. Founded in 1896 as the South African School of Mines in Kimberley, it is the third oldest South African university in continuous operation, after the University of Cape Town (founded in 1829), and Stellenbosch University (founded in 1866).</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Source</strong>: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_the_Witwatersrand]</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-Uni-of-Witwatersrand-Johannesburg-Great-Hall-entrance-2.jpeg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21545" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-Uni-of-Witwatersrand-Johannesburg-Great-Hall-entrance-2.jpeg" alt="" width="1280" height="720" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-Uni-of-Witwatersrand-Johannesburg-Great-Hall-entrance-2.jpeg 1280w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-Uni-of-Witwatersrand-Johannesburg-Great-Hall-entrance-2-300x169.jpeg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-Uni-of-Witwatersrand-Johannesburg-Great-Hall-entrance-2-768x432.jpeg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-Uni-of-Witwatersrand-Johannesburg-Great-Hall-entrance-2-1024x576.jpeg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Add. Image] The Great Hall of the University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg.</span></p>
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<p>Some of my colleagues were arguing in saying:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“Look, we know there are many top African students at Harvard and Berkeley and Stanford, or Oxford and Cambridge in England, or even at top-notch universities in South Africa. Boy, if you could only test their IQ’s, you’d find that they were just as bright, or almost as bright as the genius level physicists in North America.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>So I went to South Africa to look for a high IQ group.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2664-Phillipe-Rushton-at-podium-at-Amrem-2000.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21535" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2664-Phillipe-Rushton-at-podium-at-Amrem-2000.jpg" alt="" width="843" height="712" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2664-Phillipe-Rushton-at-podium-at-Amrem-2000.jpg 843w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2664-Phillipe-Rushton-at-podium-at-Amrem-2000-300x253.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2664-Phillipe-Rushton-at-podium-at-Amrem-2000-768x649.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 843px) 100vw, 843px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I teamed up with a group of people who shall still remain anonymous until the article is actually published in about three months time. We had Africans and Cape coloreds as well as our assistants for those who actually do these tests, and so on. It’s sometimes considered that test takers need to be tested by members of their own race, and so on. We can have the next one [slide].</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2662-Assistants-for-IQ-test.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21533" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2662-Assistants-for-IQ-test.jpg" alt="" width="868" height="717" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2662-Assistants-for-IQ-test.jpg 868w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2662-Assistants-for-IQ-test-300x248.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2662-Assistants-for-IQ-test-768x634.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 868px) 100vw, 868px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I went to South Africa myself, rather than let my collaborators collect the data, because I was very concerned that perhaps all the other IQ tests that had been given, had being given under very poor conditions. And I wanted to absolutely standardize the conditions and satisfy for myself, as well as I possibly could, the integrity of the testing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2663-backs-of-students-taking-IQ-test.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21534" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2663-backs-of-students-taking-IQ-test.jpg" alt="" width="929" height="711" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2663-backs-of-students-taking-IQ-test.jpg 929w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2663-backs-of-students-taking-IQ-test-300x230.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2663-backs-of-students-taking-IQ-test-768x588.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 929px) 100vw, 929px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What we did, we had 300 first year undergraduate psychology students. Half of whom were black and half of whom were White. And we paid them 10 US dollars for taking part. And we had a huge exam hall, so they couldn’t possibly read each other’s answers. It was proctored, monitored by five of our assistants. I myself prowled up and down these rows looking and making sure that everybody did the test studiously. We gave clear instructions that this was a very, very simple test, which I’m going to describe in a minute.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2665-front-of-students-taking-IQ-test.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21536" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2665-front-of-students-taking-IQ-test.jpg" alt="" width="941" height="712" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2665-front-of-students-taking-IQ-test.jpg 941w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2665-front-of-students-taking-IQ-test-300x227.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2665-front-of-students-taking-IQ-test-768x581.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 941px) 100vw, 941px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But most people finish it within twenty minutes., but we said you could not leave your seat, in fact, for the first thirty minutes. We figured this would ensure that people didn’t just slapdash out their answers and collect their ten dollars and leave. They may as will stay there and do the answers. But, in fact, it wasn’t even timed. We said you could stay there for an hour and a half and finish the test if you wanted to double-check and quadruple check your answers. So it was a stress [free], it was a perfect testing condition that I can imagine.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Would you go to the next one<span style="color: #008000;"> [slide]</span>.</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2688-Simple-example-of-IQ-test.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21537" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2688-Simple-example-of-IQ-test.jpg" alt="" width="636" height="634" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2688-Simple-example-of-IQ-test.jpg 636w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2688-Simple-example-of-IQ-test-150x150.jpg 150w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2688-Simple-example-of-IQ-test-300x300.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 636px) 100vw, 636px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is one of the tests. It’s a very well-known <strong>Raven’s Progress of Matrices</strong>. It’s nonverbal, so you don’t even have to use language to explain it. And what you have to do essentially, is to pick from the array of answers at the bottom, the piece that is missing from the top. And if you examine the top there, you can see that there’s a circle with a couple of lines which goes into a circle with a full line, and there’s a square with a couple of lines and you’re looking for what does it turn into. And you look around the bottom then you’ll see that there is, in fact, a square with a full half bottom and that’s the correct answer. Which is number six I believe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What?<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> It is number six, is the correct answer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, the White university students get 90% of this particular item correct. The African students, 77% of them, get it correct. So there’s no question that it’s a very, very easy item for the vast majority of Africans. They know what is expected of them and they answer the question. It’s just that more of them fail this particular item than do the Whites.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Can I have the next one <span style="color: #008000;">[slide].</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now this is a much more complicated one. So avert your eyes if you didn’t do well in the last one <span style="color: #008000;">[laughter from the audience]</span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2689-Harder-example-of-IQ-test-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21549" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2689-Harder-example-of-IQ-test-1.jpg" alt="" width="635" height="634" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2689-Harder-example-of-IQ-test-1.jpg 635w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2689-Harder-example-of-IQ-test-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2689-Harder-example-of-IQ-test-1-300x300.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 635px) 100vw, 635px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You now have to choose from an array of eight at the bottom and the whole test is much more difficult., but if you examine, &#8230; If you go down the left hand column, for example, of answers, you’ll see that you’ve got three kinds of symbols. You’ve got a diagonal, you’ve got a vertical line, you’ve got a vertical and horizontal, and you got a horizontal line. And so in each of these columns you’re looking for a horizontal, a vertical and a cross. And so what’s missing in the bottom?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[10:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the clue you’re looking for is the background, you know, do you have a plain background, or do you have a lattice-work, or do you have crossed lattice-work, and so you combine them and eventually you figure it out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And don’t forget you have a whole minute and a half to do this single item.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway this is another one of the more complicated items and about 88% of Whites pass it, and just under 70% of blacks pass it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Maybe we will go to the next one<span style="color: #008000;"> [slide].</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">[Audience noise getting louder]</span> D8! Do you want to put it back on? I didn’t realize.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2689-Harder-example-of-IQ-test-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21549" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2689-Harder-example-of-IQ-test-1.jpg" alt="" width="635" height="634" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2689-Harder-example-of-IQ-test-1.jpg 635w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2689-Harder-example-of-IQ-test-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2689-Harder-example-of-IQ-test-1-300x300.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 635px) 100vw, 635px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Was it number one? Oh, it’s number one! D8 is the item number. <span style="color: #008000;">[laughter]</span> Number one is the correct answer, I’m informed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, these are the results.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There were 60 of those items all together. And they started off very, very easy. The two you saw were, medium to high, in difficulty. These are the answers. These are the bell-shaped curve that you often see. They’re not smoothed and so they don’t look quite like the bell curves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2692-African-and-White-University-Students-Scores-on-Matrices-Test.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21540" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2692-African-and-White-University-Students-Scores-on-Matrices-Test.jpg" alt="" width="734" height="1012" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2692-African-and-White-University-Students-Scores-on-Matrices-Test.jpg 734w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2692-African-and-White-University-Students-Scores-on-Matrices-Test-218x300.jpg 218w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 734px) 100vw, 734px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the African scores peaked considerably lower down, than do the White scores. In fact, the average Africans get 44 out of 60 correct. Whereas the Whites got 54 out of 60 correct.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, 44 out of 60 correct is roughly, according to the norms of the test, what a fourteen year old Junior High school student in America gets. And these<span style="color: #008000;"> [African students]</span> are first year university students.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Putting it into an IQ context, getting 44 out of 60 correct is an IQ of 84.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And IQ of 84 is substantially higher, it’s about a standard deviation higher than an IQ of 70, which is the <span style="color: #008000;">[average IQ for the]</span> African population. But it implies that since most university students are one standard deviation higher than the average, and the university students have 84, then the average for the South African population as a whole, must be about 70!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>And therefore this search for a high IQ population supported Richard Lynn’s review of all the previous literature, showing an IQ of 70.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[12:25]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>NOTES</strong></span></h3>
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<p>Below are the original slides that were not used above due to their poor quality.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2693-Rushtons-slides.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21541" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2693-Rushtons-slides.jpg" alt="" width="748" height="712" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2693-Rushtons-slides.jpg 748w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-2693-Rushtons-slides-300x286.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 748px) 100vw, 748px" /></a></p>
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<p>The average IQs of the world&#8217;s indigenous peoples (click image to enlarge):</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-The-IQ-of-the-Worlds-Indigenous-Peoples.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21551" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-The-IQ-of-the-Worlds-Indigenous-Peoples.jpg" alt="" width="1128" height="801" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-The-IQ-of-the-Worlds-Indigenous-Peoples.jpg 1128w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-The-IQ-of-the-Worlds-Indigenous-Peoples-300x213.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-The-IQ-of-the-Worlds-Indigenous-Peoples-768x545.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/African-IQ-of-70-The-IQ-of-the-Worlds-Indigenous-Peoples-1024x727.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1128px) 100vw, 1128px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[After a year&#8217;s break from blogging and interviews TANSTAAFL returns with this interview with John Friend at his <strong>The Realist Report</strong> site. I consider TANSTAAFL to be one of the most insightful commentators on the jewish problem, and in this interview he doesn&#8217;t disappoint with his take on what&#8217;s being going on in our movement to expose and rid ourselves of the organized evil jewish cabal that dominates our societies.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Topics include; the ongoing jew war on Whites, the meaning of “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”, kikeservatives, Twitter, the jewsmedia, Trump, Bannon, (((the echo meme))), Alt-Right, Richard Spencer, Greg Johnson, Jared Taylor, Hitler and National Socialist Germany, and White racial consciousness — KATANA.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span">On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined once again by Tanstaafl of <strong><a class="external" href="http://age-of-treason.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Age of Treason</a></strong>. To begin the program, Tanstaafl gives listeners an overview of what he’s been up to lately, including being banned from Twitter for making factual statements about Jews and their anti-White agenda. We move on to focus on the Jewish problem more generally, and the open and quite blatant war being waged on Whites by the organized Jewish community. We also discuss Trump’s election, the Alt Right, and related topics.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> All right folks. Welcome back to another edition of the Realist Report. This is your host John Friend.</p>
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<p>Joining me today is Tanstaafl, who maintains the excellent website <a href="http://age-of-treason.com">Age of Treason</a>. Tanstaafl is one of the most insightful and articulate commentators in the alternative independent media today, especially when it comes to the jewish problem. A topic that we will be discussing at length during this podcast.</p>
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<p>Tan, thanks for joining me. How are you today, sir?</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Good John. I’m just getting over a cold as you know. But feeling much better today.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, you sound fine and, you know, if you’ve got to sneeze, or cough, or anything, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> I may! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> &#8230; Just put yourself on mute and I’m sure we can deal with it.</p>
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<p>Thanks for coming on the program. Last time you were on was actually a year ago, exactly. I was just looking at my website, and one year ago, today. Well, I guess when I post this program, which will be technically tomorrow, December 7th. You were on. And I had been wanting to interview you for a long time because I followed your work for a number of years and listened to pretty much all of your podcasts. And you’ve been a big influence in my thinking, especially when it comes to racial issues and, of course, the jewish problem.</p>
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<p>So, just to get started, could you talk about what you’ve been up to lately? I know you were recently shoahed from Twitter. So you are no longer on Twitter, but I see you’ve been blogging a lot lately. So, why don’t you just tell us what you’ve been up to.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, yeah, I wouldn’t call it a lot. I’ve actually been pretty inactive for the last year. Actually, it started even before I talked to you last.</p>
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<p>But, I’ve been active mostly on Twitter. I had stopped blogging so much. Before I had been in the habit of posting about once a week, once every couple of weeks, and it really dropped off to almost nothing.</p>
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<p>But Twitter is, &#8230; It wasn’t because I was not paying attention to what was going on and didn’t have thoughts. It was just because I was expressing myself mainly through Twitter. Which is really a different form of media. It’s like, it’s been called a “<em>micro blog</em>”, and that is really a good description for it.</p>
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<p>So, instead of writing these long posts on a blog, you write little snippets of thoughts that fit in 140 characters. And you can whip them off pretty quickly, and in response to lots of different stories. So it’s becomes addictive! You know, you’re sitting there paying attention to what’s going on in the news, what everybody’s excited about and you have some insight into it, or you just want to bring it to other people’s attention and you comment on it.</p>
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<p>And the big problem with it, as I found out — I was well aware I was just wondering when it would happen — but I found out a couple of weeks ago right, you know, few weeks after the election. When Twitter decides that you’re too much of a problem, they can just delete your account and it’s as if you never existed.</p>
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<p>So, I don’t really plan on going back, as useful as I found it. Most of the value was, for me, besides sharing thoughts with other like minds, was, &#8230; What I found on Twitter was that basically the enemy is using it as a communication platform. Very similar to what was uncovered back several years ago. I think 2012 election cycle. The journalist email list that they used to use back then — it might have been even 2008 cycle? I can’t recall now. It was quite a while ago.</p>
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<p>But basically before Twitter existed, the jews and the jews media, and their fellow travellers, used to communicate with each other via a private email list, that was invite only. But it was a massive number of people. And when it was uncovered and the e-mails were shared by somebody, it was shocking to a lot of people. That these people were colluding and, you know, coming up with a shared narrative about how to deal with certain scandals that broke.</p>
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<p>And we’ve seen it again in this election cycle with the Wiki Leaks thing, I mean there was there was a bit of that.</p>
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<p>But every day on Twitter — and you don’t even have to have an account on Twitter — you can sign up. And the main reason to sign up is so you can make a list. But even if you don’t sign up for Twitter you can just go to these different accounts one by one and look at what they’re saying. It’s convenient when you make a list, because it basically mashes them all together. And that’s one of the first things I did after they kicked me off. I just created a dummy account so that I could create a list of all these jews media jews, so that I could see what they were chattering about, what they were screeching about today. And so basically it’s what they call that, “<em>opposition research</em>”? Sure, it’s very effective for that.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah and you can kind of see how they sort of collude to control the narrative in a way that advance specifically jewish interests. And it doesn’t matter if they’re on the Left, or the Right, you know, so-called Left and Right, you know, jews always operate and collude together to advance specifically jewish interests. And in many cases they’re very blatant and out in the open with it.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah. You can see a difference between the Left and Right jews — the Conservatives and liberals — and how they kind of pose and posture, as opponents. But then on Twitter, you know, they’re part of a team. They’ll argue with each other on Twitter as well.</p>
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<p>But, what I’ve noticed is this, and it was even before Twitter, of course, that I noticed this, but, on Twitter you can see it developing in real time. This cycle that they get into. This positive feedback cycle where one jew will start screeching about something that’s going on, &#8230; Steve Bannon is a good — the “<em>Bannocaust</em>” that I wrote about just recently — was a good example of what was happening just as I got kicked off of Twitter.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Steve Bannon, it’s incredible that he’s been appointed to this position of power. He’s a horrible anti-Semite!”</span></h3>
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<p>And then, other jews pick this up and they all start, you know, screeching in unison on Twitter! And this was all the day before it all came out in public stories that they wrote for their jews media corporations, and were actually published in papers and online zines, and so forth. That toned down that the jewish aspect of it for public consumption.</p>
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<p>They, instead of describing Bannon as a horrible anti-Semite, they emphasized and said that he was a:</p>
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<p>But you could see on Twitter, twenty four hours before that broke out in the mainstream media and took it to public attention, how they had colluded on this very jewish attitude about Bannon. And it was all about the jews from their point of view.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. And it always is. And I was following that story, you know, when it first broke. And, as you said, they were, there were literally hundreds of articles about how Bannon was this anti-Semite, and a racist, and a leader of the Alt-Right, etc.</p>
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<p>And I mean, even the ADL had to sort of come out and backtrack on all that and say:</p>
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<p>So I mean, it’s just amazing how they, &#8230; Truly, I mean they are very delusional! These people are just totally delusional.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, it was very much like the “<em>Hagelocaust</em>”, back when Chuck Hagel was nominated for Secretary of Defense. I forget the year, it was couple years ago. Obama nominated him. And he was, you know, a centrist Republican, but kind of anti-war. And he had made statements in the past. One in particular sticks out in my mind that he had said that:</p>
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<p>When he was pushed on some issue about protecting Israel, or something.</p>
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<p>And what happened when he was nominated, the same thing. The jews, basically in private, started making a stink about it and it rose and rose, the crescendo rose until it broke out into the mainstream media as these charges against Hagel. That he’s unfit for the job, he cannot do it!</p>
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<p>Now in the end, Hagel got appointed and passed, but he first had to go and on bended knee, apologize to the jews for ever saying anything negative about them and promised that he was going to be the best Secretary of Defense for Israel, that he could be.</p>
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<p>And that’s what I pointed out at the time was, you know, here are two groups of jews. There were jews for him and jews against him. But the basis for their argument was that he’s “<em>good for the jews</em>”. Both sides had a different opinion about it, but that was the basis, the common ground, that they were arguing on. It was totally jewish! And totally about what’s best for the jews, what’s best for Israel, not what’s best for United States. Even as a abstract idea.</p>
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<p>And I saw the same thing with the “<em>Bannonocaust</em>”. It was a bunch of jews arguing about whether he was good, or bad for the jews.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. And isn’t it amazing how, &#8230; I mean we see this all the time, you know, anytime anyone says anything even slightly critical of jews, or makes simple, basic, factual statements, about jews and their power and influence and their agenda, you know, that’s anti-Semitism to these people! That is paranoia and conspiracy theories.</p>
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<p>And really, they’ve been so effective at preventing people from openly discussing their power and influence, even when jews themselves, openly write about it and openly talk about it.</p>
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<p>I mean, this is something that you’ve been doing for quite a while, just, you know, quoting jews. And as you said, you go on Twitter and you see what they’re talking about. You see how they’re trying to frame issues, and how they’re colluding with other jews to frame things to advance specifically jewish interests.</p>
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<p>And yet, if you notice these things, if you scholarly document them and comment on them, you’re:</p>
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<p>It’s really amazing! I mean, to me, it’s so amazing that they’ve been able to do this for so long and to prevent any, you know, rational inquiry, any rational discussion of the jews and of their power and influence. It really blows my mind! I mean, to me it’s so ridiculous and just childish that we can’t even openly talk about these things.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well first of all, it is a conspiracy. They do conspire for their own interests, as a group. So, it’s kind of a bad joke that they have created this term “<em>conspiracy theory</em>” and associated it with people being insane, for basically, &#8230;.</p>
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<p>What it means, “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”, this is a term, if it wasn’t coined by Karl Popper it was popularized by him in a paper years ago. Karl Popper is a famous jew philosopher. He’s also the source of this “<em>Open Society</em>” thing that George Soros pushes today. But, Karl Popper talked about conspiracy theory and I think — he was speaking in pretty coded language — but basically it means:</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right!</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> You know, in contemporary terms.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Conspiracy theory is is the term that jews use and they use it every day. This is another term I see popping up on the jew Twitter, every day, multiple times. Any time they think that the goyim are becoming aware of something. They call that a “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”, right!</p>
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<p>Now, us “<em>goyim</em>” think of the term in more general terms. That it just means any kooky theory, any stupid, crazy, theory that, you know, maybe goes off into the weeds of the details of some obscure, you know, maybe even unimportant thing. That’s what the term means to us.</p>
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<p>But, it means that because the jews have imparted that meaning to it by implying that anyone talking about the jews specifically, but anything that even hints at it, or touches on the jews is a, quote, unquote, “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”..</p>
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<p>The word conspiracy, it’s a legal term, it actually has a legal meaning. But it has a more, you know, &#8230; The legal meaning is that you actually, like two, or more people are actually planning to do something illegal. Right. That’s a legal conspiracy.</p>
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<p>But, the term in common parlance just means doing something untoward, something, you know, negative, something bad. And it’s more loose. It doesn’t have to necessarily be illegal. And, in fact, the jews have so much power that basically what they do is legal! They’re able to do what they do, most of it, anyway, legally.</p>
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<p>And what they focus on today — they’ve got so much power — is making what we do, illegal! So that we can’t even speak about what they’re doing, without it being defined as “<em>hate speech</em>”, and criminalized.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right! Exactly! And I mean, you know, on Twitter, I’m sure you were banned, in part, because you were making factual statements and observations about jews, and their very openly anti-White agenda.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah it was the words, “<em>kikeservative</em>”, “<em>faggot</em>” <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> “<em>nigger</em>”. You know, I used a couple of different slurs that I probably could have got my message across, while avoiding them.</p>
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<p>Although “<em>kikeservative</em>” I think is, I would defend that term, because even though, you know, most people might recoil at it. It is actually very descriptive word of what’s what’s going on. It’s more descriptive than “<em>cuckservative</em>”, which I’m also happy to use. But it’s a little too broad.</p>
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<p>You know, a lot of people use the term “<em>cuckservative</em>” and they really, I don’t think that they appreciate the analogy that’s being implied there. That, you know, the cuckoo bird and parasitism, basically, that we talked about last time. And to call it “<em>kikeservative</em>” to call somebody who is basically serving the jews, a “<em>kikeservative</em>” really puts a fine point on, you know, on the word “<em>cuckservative</em>”. Instead of just calling them a cuck, which means that any nonwhite they might be serving, you know, it’s putting the focus more on the main non-White power that is actually puppeteering most of the other non-Whites. And sharing their playbook with them.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> So, basically it’s a more precise analysis, a more precise definition of other cuckservatives, of these Republicans. And I mean, even, I guess, Democrats to a certain extent, literally selling out their own people to advance jewish interests.</p>
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<p>And, of course, jews are behind all the other minority groups. They always organize them and, you know, fight for civil rights and all this other nonsense. That goes all the way back to the fifty’s and sixty’s they’ve been doing that. And we still see it today with illegal immigration, and transgenderism now, like homosexuality, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> “<em>Black Live Matter</em>” is a direct analogy. If you weren’t alive back during Civil Rights, you can see what’s happening with the Black Lives Matter thing. The kind of role that the jews play is to amplify and broadcast their message. And to put a positive spin on it. To put it out there, in front of people, in a sympathetic way.</p>
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<p>If they don’t like something, like say, the Alt-Right, neo-Nazism or, you know, even just White Identity, they put it out there with a negative spin on it, and with obviously anti-pathetic attitudes, and psycho-pathologizing it, too.</p>
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<p>You mentioned earlier, having to do with this, &#8230; Their tactics of how they deal with criticism. The main way they deal with criticism is to call it “<em>crazy</em>”! They call their enemies “<em>crazy</em>”! And they have specialized in this. I mean, Sigmund Freud is the first and most famous example, the most well known example that pops in the mind, but I’m sure it goes back further than Freud. And it’s certainly since Freud it has become the main tool.</p>
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<p>I mentioned already Karl Popper in the “<em>conspiracy theory</em>” thing, but there’s a long history just in this past century of, for instance, the “<em>Authoritarian Personality</em>” from the Cultural Marxist, the Frankfurt School, Adorno, and company.</p>
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<p>There’s the “<em>Paranoid Style in American Politics</em>” by Hofstetter who was half jew, a mischling. And then there’s the “<em>Conspiracy Theory of Society</em>” which was written by Popper.</p>
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<p>And then, Cass Sunstein, more recently, wrote sort of an updated version of this conspiracy theory paper. Long piece, basically reiterating Popper’s point that, you know, when people come up with these theories about how certain small groups have too much control, and run the media, and run finances, you know, that’s what they mean when they say, “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”. And that is bad for the jews.</p>
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<p>He doesn’t put it — neither one of them, Popper, or Sunstein — put it that plainly, but that’s what they’re talking about. And it really came to a point, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> That sort of what it amounts to, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> At the end of Trump’s campaign.</p>
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<p>When he had that infamous commercial. The jews really, drove them nuts! That last commercial he came out with, where he talks about the globalist elite and the globalist media and finance. And then put up at least three jews in the video. That’s why they were flipping out, because “<em>that’s a conspiracy theory!</em>” And you’re trafficking in anti-semitic tropes and conspiracy theories. It’s funny, they expose themselves, basically.</p>
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<p>When somebody like Trump, who love the jews, or is a willing servant of the jews, a kikeservative in the true sense of the word. When they suspect that he is actually a secret anti-semite, that’s where it does come across that they are crazy! That they themselves are paranoid and crazy. And what they’re doing is projecting it on to us, when they call us crazy!</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> It’s sick! It’s really sick!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> It is! And I mean, it’s so bad where now, and I mean, I guess this is been going on for a long time. I mean, literally they view any form of White racial consciousness as a delusional conspiracy. I don’t want to say “<em>conspiracy theory</em>”, but it’s “<em>delusional, it’s irrational, it’s illegitimate</em>”..</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> The jews are, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right! But they’d champion that in everyone else, especially themselves, right? I mean, jews are very ethnocentric and very aware of their jewish identity, and are very proud of it. Which, I mean, is fine by me, but when they turn around and say anybody who’s White who does the same thing is crazy, and is hateful, and is a bigot. I mean, again, it’s just completely ridiculous!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[19:53]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, it’s not ridiculous! It’s actually an attack. And that’s how it should be interpreted, as an offensive against Whites.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s kind of the main point that I’ve been harping on for years now, but especially in this past year. The jew war on Whites!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so many people kind of water it down, or see it in less extreme terms. But it isn’t really extreme, it’s just the honest, it’s the most honest way to describe what’s going on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The jews are at war with Whites! Are warring upon Whites! Are aggressing against Whites! Are hostile to Whites! Are landing all of these blows against Whites!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Whites are unwilling, unable, to respond!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The ones that do respond, respond violently. You know, a trickle of them. And then, what happens? You know, a lot of White people get up and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh that’s horrible! Violence isn’t the answer!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And something that, it really bugs me because the, &#8230; And I see it changing, so there’s hope that this is shifting now. Attitudes in the last two years, and partly because of Trump, and partly it was happening anyway, there is been a surge in “<em>White consciousness</em>”. Of White people waking up to the reality, as Richard Spencer puts it, that race is real, and race matters!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, I’ve been saying that stuff for years, but now a lot of people are starting to realize that that’s true! And that is the first step, is just having that basic, &#8230; When you say, you know, “<em>racial consciousness</em>”, there’s, I think of it, there’s two, they’re not separate, but they’re like different ends of the spectrum, &#8230; The first and most basic consciousness is just knowing that race is real, knowing that you have a race, a group, a larger group that you belong to. And there’s nothing you can really do about it, you’re part of that group, you’re born into it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And feeling, you know, aware of that, on a day to day basis.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, when you see people on television and they’re talking about something your first thought is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well what is that person? Are they part of my group, or are they not part of my group?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And jews – this is important – because, maybe we’ll get into this a bit later too, the way that jews posture and pretend to be White. And they feed us poison that way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s how you can stop that from happening is by paying attention to who is saying what. And recognizing that this person I think I can trust them, they look like a member of my own group. And, you know what they’re saying makes sense to me. Versus this Krauthammer asshole! You know, I don’t like what he’s saying and he’s telling us, talking about going to war in the Middle East., you know, that doesn’t make any sense to me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And when you start to understand who the jews are, and what’s been going on, and see it as a war, then you understand. Well, yeah, these jews are they are not us! And they see us as their main enemy!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. They’re not us, and they openly say this and they’re openly hostile to our interests. And this is been made clear almost every single day! I mean, it’s very clear if you’re just paying attention.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’m glad you brought that up, this jewish war on Whites, this jewish war on Western civilization, and this White genocide agenda. That is what the jews promote, is White genocide!</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> White genocide agenda.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> And yeah, I mean, that is ultimately what it’s all about.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I wanted to ask you, if you could maybe just summarize the “<em>jewish problem</em>” in a nutshell. And I mean, I guess that would probably be your answer <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span>. If it’s not really a “<em>jewish problem</em>”, it is a “<em>jewish war</em>” on White people! And needs to be understood, in those explicit terms. Because that is what it is!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes, the “<em>jewish problem</em>” from a White point of view, is the problem that jews cause for Whites. And in the past it didn’t seem like it was so serious. It was like discomfort. It was that the jews cause problems. Maybe they cause some wars.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well today, it’s pretty obvious that it’s an existential threat! That they are not going to be happy until Whites don’t exist anymore. They changed their attitudes round about the middle of last century, with the rise of the National Socialist regime. And they were fully exposed and that scared the shit out of them! And they changed tactics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And now the agenda is to get rid of us, entirely.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, you know, whereas before they were happy to just feed on us and they really maybe only had the power to feed on us in the past. But now, they’re they’ve actually got the upper hand with the media control that they have, the financial control they have. And all of these kikeservatives willing to do their bidding for them. That think they’re on the winning team.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[24:49]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We’re on our backs and they’ve got their feet on our throats and they don’t, &#8230; Unlike Whites who foolishly feel sympathy for defeated enemies and let them up and help them out, jews don’t do that. Jews like to brag about how they’ve exterminated all of the people that they’ve ever come up against in their history.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, they describe themselves as victims of these people. That’s how they see themselves, and that’s how they justify offing this long list of civilizations that they’ve parasitized in the past.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But we are just the most recent one to them and they won’t think twice about just offing us! It doesn’t bother them in the slightest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, I think, if you if you look back, you know, the past hundred years, or so, jews, especially organized jewish community, and groups like the ADL, for example, the World jewish Congress, they are driven fundamentally by a desire to prevent any sort of White revolution, any sort of national socialist, you know, takeover of society. They’re trying to prevent what happened in Germany from happening anywhere else. And obviously they’ve been very effective all over the Western world.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think, I mean, I think that is really what drives them because, you know, the jews always had a lot of power and influence in Western society, you know, going back, I mean, really all throughout time. But now, as you said, they’re at a point where they literally control our societies in virtually every respect.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Hitler’s Germany was a solution to that problem. I mean, they openly talked about these things. They were articulating them publicly. Your average German probably knew about these issues, and could explain it. And that’s what they fear!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes. Yeah, it was the first time that European man really, on a large scale, was aware of the jews, of the true nature of the jews. Saw them for what they are, and organized at a governmental scale against them! In self defense against the jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And ultimately it failed, because not enough other people outside of Germany were able to accept what the Germans had come to accept themselves, and were trying to make other people understand.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As you mention, the ADL and other jewish organizations, &#8230; The jews organize compulsively, and they communicate. They have meetings, you know, every day of the year! There is some jewish organization meeting, conspiring, to increase their control, increase their power. And not only in a positive way for themselves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What a big part of what they do, especially organizations like the SPLC, the ADL, is they focus on suppressing our communication. This thing that Twitter did, not just, you know, I wasn’t the only one deleted, there were a whole bunch of people and accounts shut down. And there were many before that, but there was a big spate of them right after the election.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That was, no doubt, due to the puppeteering of the ADL. The ADL had several months earlier, insinuated themselves into the process of defining what should and shouldn’t be allowed and they finally, you know, dropped the hammer on that day, most of that week, when a bunch of people were kicked off.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, you know, that’s the purpose of that particular organization is to sniff out anyone who is talking, any White people who are talking amongst themselves, and shut it down!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Yeah, exactly! And I’ve been following the Daily Stormer, they’ve been, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Andrew]</strong></span> Anglin has been covering this issue pretty well. And I mean, he’s been stripped from, what I understand, he’s pretty much banned as a person from even using Twitter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, this is out in the open. There are clearly organizing to shut it down, as you said.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you think, I mean, what are your thoughts, like long term? Do you think that this is something that, I mean, are they going to be able to shut everyone down, you know what I mean? There’s a lot of people using Twitter and getting this message out. I mean, how far are they going to take this, do you think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> It will go farther. It’s been called, “<em>the shuttening</em>” this, not just Twitter, but the general idea. I kind of like the term, “<em>the shuttening</em>”, because it refers to the jew tendency to shut it down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Facebook has always been like this. That’s why I didn’t, that is why I never bothered to even sign up for Facebook, because I knew that, Facebook doesn’t tolerate, doesn’t even, you know, maybe it makes some gestures about tolerating free speech and all that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But Twitter made sort of a name for itself, early on, by being the free speech platform and that’s why I thought – it was still a risk – to invest any time in posting anything there. But, after the first few months when I saw that they weren’t banning people Left and Right, I kind of, you know, got comfortable there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what we see is that, you know, that stuff can change. And that’s exactly what the jews agitate for and organizing and pressure people politically, behind the scenes, to shut these things down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s going to get worse! What, the next step, I mean, besides other social media stuff like Gab that’s cropping up, you know, they’ll eventually come under the gun of the ADL and other jewish organizations. And they’ll probably cave as well, if they aren’t already a jewish organization, you know, anyway. Basically providing the Jews with information on all the people using their service.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All of these services will eventually get shut down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the next step beyond that, that I can foresee happening too, is that they’ll just remove the DNS entries. They may not be able to, it’s not cost effective for them to try and go to every ISP and get sites like mine, or yours removed. They have done that in the past, but it’s expensive, and it’s time consuming. And there are certain services that won’t delete the stuff. They won’t give in to the threats. So, the way they’ll they’ll deal with that is just by convincing the government, or whoever is controlling that the DNS system, to delist those sites, so they won’t be convenient to get to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, you’ll have people sharing around the names and IP addresses of certain favorite sites and giving the technical details:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Here’s how you get there.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it will drop dramatically reduce the ease of which people can get to our ideas. That won’t be a totally a bad thing because, you know, the harder they try to shut us down, the more obvious they make it, the more they expose themselves, expose their power, and expose how illegitimate their power is. That they pretend to be victims and they’re going around, there’s that famous saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That is an eye-opening thing, when people who have been hearing about how criticism of jews is just crazy, for all their lives., actually, see jews behaving like wild animals, savaging people who are just mild mannered, and saying, you know, polite things, like Richard Spencer, they have something <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[that]</strong></span> snaps in their mind and they realize:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Hey, wait a minute! Maybe the people who have been saying these things aren’t crazy?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I know it happened for me, years ago. And over the last two years I’ve seen more and more testimonies from people in interviews, or just chatting online, where these are people who self professed a year ago:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I was a liberal, a shitlib.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or whatever:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I was just a normie!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in the course of being exposed basically to jewish shenanigans, they realize:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This isn’t a joke! This is real! The jews really are in power. And they really are nasty!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Exactly! Yeah. Well, that’s really the big story of this past election season. Is just how clear this is all becoming. And, I mean, we’re seeing the media become discredited on a mass scale, which is huge. I mean, that to me has been the number one weapon that the jews have used to wage war against us. It’s largely been psychological.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, they literally brainwash us with false history and pseudo science. You mentioned Freud and all these other con artists. And I mean, that’s really to me how they’ve been so successful, is controlling the narrative and weaponizing history and weaponizing our political discourse.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this is all coming out in the open now. And it’s all being made clear. You mentioned the Trump campaign video where he doesn’t even mention the word “<em>jew</em>”! In the speech he made down in West Palm Beach Florida, where he was railing against, you know, the global interests, &#8230; Again, you know, he could have named the jew and it would have been a lot more accurate. But he didn’t even have to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the very next day, or even that night, you know, all these jews on Twitter, the ADL, they’re condemning this speech as, you know, trafficking in, quote, unquote, “<em>anti-Semitic conspiracy theories</em>” and all this other nonsense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I mean, these people are outing themselves! And to me, I don’t know how people can notice this. I mean, people are obviously noticing it, but it’s just they just can’t help themselves! I mean, these jews are just so delusional. They just cannot help themselves!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[34:38]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah, to a certain extent they can’t help themselves. It’s their nature to screech when they sense that they are being attacked. And they are hyper sensitive!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s why it’s hard for me to accept that jews are just innocently going along with somebody else’s agenda, that this isn’t a jewish agenda that’s killing Whites as a race. It’s impossible to believe, because the jews are so hyper sensitive to race and to what is good for survival of a group and what is bad. And they make sure that for their own group they have policies that preserve their group and that they push the opposite for us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you mention the narrative. And the jews, &#8230; I’ve pointed out before, the jews are sort of born storytellers, you know, from the Bible, which I think I mentioned in, “<em>The Great Jewish Mask</em>”. That book from about a hundred years ago. The jews are have been storytellers, their whole history. To the point where, the very history that they tell is a big lie, all the way back!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And today’s Hollywood. And White people in America, and globally too, I think, you know, they kind of understand this. They don’t like Hollywood. I mean, they may go to those movies and they may be thrilled by those things, but they also are kind of put off by it. It’s sort of like chewing on a poisoned Twinkie! It’s like, it tastes good, but it also, you feel sick to your stomach afterwards!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s the kind of feeling that White people get when they look at the jewish media.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Trump didn’t create that distrust, he just sort of exposed it. And he tapped into it. He saw, he’s very perceptive in sensing what it is that, &#8230; Well, first of all, that White people weren’t being pandered to,  weren’t being served by previous candidates. And that’s the path, basically, that was the key to his electoral strategy, and the key to his victory ultimately was to tap into that by talking about White issues. What the Leftists call “<em>dog whistling</em>”. And it just means speaking in code. When politicians speak in code to get White votes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’ve made the point before, that if a politician has to speak in code, that’s kind of a disadvantage, you know, because Trump is a good example. He spoke explicitly to blacks about what he was going to do for blacks! And he said, you know, I’m going to basically poor lots of money and lots of attention on the inner city, you know, talking directly to blacks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And similarly to Hispanics, and Latinos, and to jews! He spoke explicitly about how well he was going to serve them and their interests!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he did not speak, at all, during the campaign, he never said the word, “<em>White</em>” that I’m aware of and never in a positive context like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I love White people! I’m a White person and I’m going to make sure that White people are well served by my administration.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But he did speak about jobs. I think in the past, it was called, “<em>Nixon’s Southern Strategy</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This time around they’re going to start to call it, I think, “<em>Trump’s Rustbelt Strategy</em>”, because he did, basically the same thing. He talked to Whites, indirectly, but still in a language that they understood. That:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Hey this guy gets it. He’s going to do things and have policies that address our concerns. This country is changing. We don’t like the new normal.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But my point is, my overall point is that, I think most White people just they don’t see the jews, they don’t understand the jews as a threat. They think that’s crazy! They, I mean, they’ve heard people say it, but they think that is discredited idea, it’s a conspiracy theory, it’s not true! And it’s largely, because that’s what the jews say! The jews have control over the media, they pump out that message twenty four seven, that it’s crazy to think anything bad about the jews:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Only stupid people do that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they present alternatives. They:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Here, blame these people instead! Blame White people! It’s really White privilege! It’s not that the jews are too privileged. It’s White privilege!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, it’s a mix of techniques that they use. But it’s also easy to understand, once the scales fall from your eyes and you stop thinking of the jews as these innocent, this innocent powerless minority, and start to see them for what they really are.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then it all makes sense! Things that in the past you might have thought that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s odd, like the poison Twinky thing, but I don’t really understand why? Why would Hollywood serve up poisoned Twinkies?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Why do they do that?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, once you realize Hollywood is controlled by jews, it was created by jews, and they manipulate your thoughts. They actually define what is good and what is bad, just as they have ever since the Bible, it all make sense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:53]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right! You know and isn’t it just so sad that Trump, you know how many times had it has he been called a racist and a bigot? And, you know, he’s promoting hatred and all this other nonsense. And yet as you said, he never, and to my knowledge as well, he never once, you know, said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“I’m White.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“I’m championing White interests!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He never once explicitly said that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Although, I agree, I think he did use some, you know, coded language that, you know, people kind of read between the lines. And yet he’s openly saying how he’s going to do this for the black community. He’s going to help the Mexicans. He’s going to help the immigrants. I mean, it’s just so sad!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is a country founded and built by White people! And we can’t even talk about that! We can’t even talk about White interests. Thanks to the jews! Thanks to the jews’ control of the narrative!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah. Well, they’re the ones who created this environment and, as I like to say, “<em>anti-racism</em>” is a jew construct! It serves their interests, and they were the ones who promoted the idea that race is just a “<em>social construct</em>”, and racists are the worst people on the planet! You know, blame the “<em>racists</em>” for all the problems!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, anyway, “<em>racist</em>” is really just a euphemism for “<em>Whites</em>” anyway. When you hear somebody call somebody a racist, the best way to understand that, is to call him a White person!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s similar during this election, the jews in the jews media were using the word, the term, “<em>Trump supporter</em>”, in that way. “<em>Trump supporter</em>” and with venom, you know, means White person!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> That’s why they hated Trump! And that’s why they hated Trump supporters, because they were White! Not, you know, they never talked about black, or non-White supporters of Trump, except maybe in terms of racial treason, you know, that they were betraying their own kind by siding with Trump and the evil racists!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, going back to, you know, we are talking about Hitler and National Socialist Germany, and how the jews just absolutely fear that sort of movement coming to power ever again. They viewed these rallies, with thousands of White people chanting and cheering for Donald Trump. This is what they saw! They saw National Socialism all over again!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Although they made a video, that was really good, early on, and intended it to discredit Trump by comparing, side by side, snippets of Trump speeches and then snippets of Hitler speeches. And they went back and forth between the two, drawing these parallels. This was maybe in January of last year, earlier this year. And it flopped!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because, what happened, the reaction was, for most of these Trump supporters, was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Hey! I agree with what Trump is saying. And I didn’t know that Hitler said these things too! Maybe this guy Hitler isn’t such bad guy?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[John laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> They yanked that commercial right away! And it’s true that there are parallels! It’s because you cannot oppose the jewish agenda, in any way, without upsetting the jews!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And whether you recognize it is a jewish agenda, or not, whether you call it a jewish agenda and are conscious of it, or not, the jews know it’s a jewish agenda! And that’s why they go berserk!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, I want to talk about Trump in the Alt-Right, and sort of what’s happened really over the course of the past year.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>To start off, I mean, do you think, &#8230; Trump has to be, he has to be aware of the Alt-Right? I mean, he obviously is, he gets asked about it all the time. But I mean, do you think that he’s following what’s going on? Do you think he’s wise to some of these issues at all?</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> In the sense that any politician is, I think, it was Joe Sobran said many years ago, that in order to even survive at the highest levels of government and media in this country, you have to be aware of the jews! Because you have to have some sense of what you’re allowed to say and what you’re not allowed to say.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, you know, every couple of months there is some celebrity, or another, I can’t remember his name now. Gary Oldman in Hollywood, who said something in a Playboy interview about how rotten the world is getting to be. And then he switched right immediately to how the jews control Hollywood and <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> making sort of the indirect connection, that the world is so terrible, because these jews are putting out a terrible vision of the world! And he got slapped down right away!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s basically how the jews make sure that everybody knows who controls, not just Hollywood, of course, and if you want to work in the media you’ve got to make sure you don’t ever say anything like that about jews. You don’t talk about jewish power.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But also in the government. Can’t think of a, &#8230; Well the “<em>Hagelocaust</em>”, and the “<em>Bannonocaust</em>”, are good examples of them doing something similar in government, where they actually trumpet the fact that there are jews there.:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We’re jews! And we’re upset about, ..! We’re offended by this, and this guy is disqualified! Because jews!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, they make it so explicit! It’s like it’s as if they have veto power! An unwritten line in the Constitution that says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The jews have actually the first veto over any nominee!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:27]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> They have effectively have though! They’ve basically been able to get away with whatever they want, for so long!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, in the end Hagel and Bannon are examples of where they screech very loudly and they didn’t get what they want in the end. But then again the guy that they were screeching about, they were totally exaggerating. You know, they were making it out like this was the next Hitler. Trump is another good example of this. Where, you know, he’s not.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>None of these guys are willing to stand up against the jews. Now maybe the jews suspect that they would be, if other people also stood up at the same time. And in a way it’s a sort of shit test. Besides, you know, the “<em>Saul Alinsky</em>” effect of, you know, focusing on one enemy at a time and vaporizing them. And letting that be a lesson to everybody else.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s a shit test! It’s to basically flush out any resistance:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Any other takers? Anybody else want some of this?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s the kind of attitude that, I don’t know if they have it consciously, but that’s what’s the challenge to everybody else around when they see somebody being savaged in public.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another one was that I wrote about was Tom Perkins, that billionaire. Who couple years ago made some comment about the one percent that the Occupy Wall Street rhetoric against the one percent. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[It]</strong></span> reminded him of the jews and Kristallnacht. And how the one percent might be genocided!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And a bunch of jews made it clear to him, that being rich is not anything to be worried about. You know, it’s really, you know, that’s a special jewish term of warfare, as you mentioned “<em>weaponized terms</em>”. You know, “<em>Kristallnacht</em>” is one of those proprietary jewish weaponized terms that only jews are allowed to use. And only for the purposes of advancing jewish interests.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, Tom Perkins is only a mere billionaire! And so, he was shut down right away.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, and we see this when, you know, people invoke the Holocaust, you know, for the wrong reasons and the jews get all upset and say:</p>
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<h3>“No you can’t do that! It’s only for us!”</h3>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> You know, I mean, there’s other examples as well. But again, I mean, it’s just their control, their power, their influence is largely, &#8230; And the way they’re able to frame things, the way they’re able to control the narrative, control the discourse. And I think that is, you know, sort of breaking down and being eroded slowly. And it’s been spent taking place over time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, I think this election and to what Trump has done, has really been a huge boost to that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you had sent me an e-mail with some links here and I want to go over one of them, in particular. The Real Clear Politics, where Kellyanne Conway, and I think it was Clinton’s campaign manager. They were having like a discussion after the election.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the Clinton campaign was saying, and they were saying this all throughout the campaign, that Trump is, you know, “<em>mainstreaming</em>”, quote, unquote, “<em>hatred</em>”! And we saw all sorts of jewish journalists talking about how Trump was, “<em>mainstreaming anti-Semitism</em>”..</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s a quite revealing article published by Yair Rosenberg, who is one of these jews on Twitter that was going nuts when they had the “<em>echo meme</em>” going on.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p style="color: black;"><strong>John Friend:</strong> And he was openly, you know, he had the (((brackets))) around his name and whatnot. And he wrote this article a couple months ago titled, I can’t remember the exact title, but is basically, “<em>A vote for Trump is a vote for mainstreaming anti-Semitism!</em>”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And his argument was that the Alt-Right has been so energizing, has gained so much traction, because of Trump and, because of the Trump campaign and what he’s done and how he’s criticizing the media. And how he’s criticizing the establishment and it’s stance on immigration. And political correctness and so many other important issues. And I think all of that is true, although I don’t know if Trump himself was attempting to do that.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> I think it was really the Alt-Right, who sort of seized the moment, seized the opportunity. Guys like, to his credit, Andrew Anglin, and the guys at “<em>The Right Stuff dot business</em>”. You know, other people on Twitter and whatnot. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[They]</strong></span> really just seized this opportunity and seized the moment, to get their voices out there, to get their message out there. And I think it’s been very effective!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, I mean, that’s what this whole argument was about! Was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Look, the Trump campaign is giving a platform to the Alt-Right. It’s giving a platform to, quote, unquote, ‘White supremacists’!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that is true to a certain extent, although I don’t think that is the goal of the Trump campaign, at least not obviously, not explicitly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[50:14]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> No. I think Trump, and I’ve said this before, it was my earlier assessment of him and it still holds. I think he just wanted to be president. He had that ambition for decades and he finally fulfilled it. And he basically promised to himself, I think mainly, that it would be no holds barred. That he would do whatever he needed to do to get it done.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there’s a story about that with Jared Kushner, and, you know, the Electoral College, and basically what I call the “<em>Rust Belt Strategy</em>”. Where, you know, in order to become President, he needed to say these things to White people, to appeal to White people and get their votes, and get the Electoral College votes that he would need to win. To overcome the non-White votes in other States.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Other people talked about that, but there hasn’t been much emphasis put on the fact that it was Jared Kushner that actually kind of organized that effort, or at least lead it, and headed it up. That was in that Forbes interview, or the Forbes article about him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Now, a question for you. So, I mean, obviously it was a very successful campaign strategy to play on these issues. But do you think that Trump was genuine? Because, to me he seems very genuine about all of these issues!</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> He genuinely wants to be President, to the point where he will put up with all the shit! He’s, as he said many times at his rallies:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You know, I didn’t have to do this! I could have lived a comfortable life!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It really was a grueling thing! You know, I watched, night after night of him doing these rallies, and I just thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“God! He’s much older than I am!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> He’s seventy, I think he seventy years old!</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> He’s a dynamo! I mean, you’ve got to give him credit for just being an incredible work horse!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he put up with all that stuff. I think he went into it knowing that it was going to be bad, but I don’t think he appreciated how bad it was going to be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He also basically called out the media early on, and especially toward the end, as the enemy and really played on that. Although that was part of his appealing to White people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What I wanted to say, was, that I’ve kind of left unsaid here all along, is that Whites are desperate for a leader to say positive things! To give them a positive vision for the future! To the point where even the kind of lukewarm stuff that Trump served up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, the jews painted it as the next holocaust, but it was really, it’s stuff that in Reagan times, in the 80’s, this was just what the norm was!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You have a country. You have borders. You have laws against people coming in your country illegally. And you have elected officials that are at least ostensibly supposed to be out for the best interests of that country, and it’s citizens.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That was the understanding in the 80’s. And before that, it was even better.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, National Socialist Germany, it was a racial understanding of nationhood.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But even in the 80’s we still had the tatters of a countryhood and a civic nationalism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, Trump is just, you know, basically resetting by about twenty years, the attitude about nationalism. And that is too much for the jews! But, White people have this instinct and this desire to have somebody speaking for them and that’s why they gravitated to Trump, that’s why they were attracted and put signs in the yards and went to all his rallies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s why it was so easy to see that Trump could win if he was going to continue to speak to Whites the way he was. And not give in to the jews media’s pressure to geld himself, to reign himself in, to stop saying these politically incorrect things, that he would win! And he did win!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And my fear, my greatest fear has always been, not whether Trump would win, or not, it’s been, you know what is he going to do once he’s in?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think the most likely thing – it’s kind of a black pill, or negative thing – but I think he’s going to go along with the shuttening that I was talking about earlier. I think he’s going to be, maybe even critical to, &#8230; He’ll be the proud signer of Bills illegalizing in hate speech, illegalizing criticism of jews and Israel. Because that’s kind of who he is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, he’s prided himself, and I think a lot of the reason he was able to take all this withering criticism, that he’s a horrible anti-Semite, a racist, a bigot, is he knows in his heart that he isn’t! At least that’s how he sees himself, that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“No! I don’t judge people on the color of their skin. I don’t do these things!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, you know, it rolls off his back when they say these things about him, because in his own mind, he’s comfortable with who he is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:09]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Yeah! Gosh! I really hope Trump, doesn’t go along with that whole agenda! I mean, it would be totally contrary to, you know, pretty much everything he said, especially as it relates to political correctness.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I mean, who knows? We’re just going to have to wait and see. I think that’s the main thing, is we really, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> I think we’ve seen already! He’s a lifelong kikeservative! He’s, for his whole life, and he brags about this, you know. He’s basically in bed with the jews! His family is intermarried with them, and, you know, there’s not much he can do about that at this point, except go along with them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, when they come to him at some point in his first term and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We’ve got to have this legislation against hate speech. It’s crazy out there for jews. And don’t you care about the jews?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s part of why the jews screech so much about things like Bannon, about how horrible an anti-Semite Trump is, in order to influence him to do the opposite. To prove that he’s not a racist! To prove that he’s not an anti-semite! And so that, he will do things, like sign legislation that favors them.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, &#8230; That would not be good! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> I guess we’ll have to wait and see what happens. But I mean, like, for example, with immigration. I mean, do you think he genuinely means everything he said?</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, that’s that is the thing! I think, to me he, I mean, you know, I’ve sort of explained this in previous podcast and what not, but I mean, &#8230; I think that everything that he said, all of his campaign promises all of the main issues that he ran on, I think that he really does mean these things, and he really does feel this way about immigration, for example. About trade. About, you know, political correctness run amuck, and all this other stuff. And he was basically, to me, it almost seems like he was surprised at how far he got, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, I don’t think he went into this thinking that he would be this successful. And I think at the very beginning when he announced that he was running and he gained all this traction and gained all this popularity. To me, it was almost as if he wasn’t expecting that, he wasn’t prepared for it.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> No! I don’t agree with that, I think that he was!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think he knew it would be a long slog. And he went into it just confident in his own ability to do it. And his willingness, basically like I said, to pull no punches and to do whatever he needed to do to get the job done.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that mainly, if he had any doubt about it, it was only, because that’s basically the effect of the media. The media was constantly saying, right up until the end, how he was losing in the polls, how, you know, it was like every week this:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“He just did this! And that’s a deadly gaffe! He can’t be president, now!”</span></h3>
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<p>And they did that for a year and a half! And every day they were constantly telling people in all the polls, &#8230; You know, they totally discredited themselves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, of course, right after the election happens, there was a little brief interlude of shock and silence. And then they immediately started going back to the polls.:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The polls say this! The polls say that!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, you know, it’s the same lying media quoting the same skewed polls.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That is also something even Hitler noticed, and wrote about in Mein Kampf. You know, how you can argue with a jew one day and just totally squash him, and then the next day he come back and the jew’s making the same arguments again, as if it never happened.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right. Well, you know, you had mentioned this about Trump. That the amazing thing is that really everything that he’s saying is, I mean, it’s really not even that controversial at all, right? I mean, he’s basically making just common sense arguments when it comes immigration, when it comes to trade. But our society has gone so far downhill that these things are very radical all of of sudden, especially to the elites running our society.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> When really nothing he’s saying is that, is really that revolutionary, or that radical, even at all.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, it’s radical in, &#8230; The main sense it’s radical is that he’s talking in terms that White people like. And even the jews media basically puts it that way:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You know, the KKK endorses him! KKK loves what Trump just said!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or, you know:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The Nazis loved, ….”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s their measurements of whether something is good, or bad, is if racially conscious White people like what they’re hearing from Trump, that’s bad! I mean, it goes back to basically to what I think is the core moral understanding of this current jew run regime.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[60:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p>It’s an anti-White, pro-jew regime, first of all, at heart! And the basic morality of it is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Whites are bad! Whites are evil! And non-Whites, with jews being the first and foremost of the non-Whites, are good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s the sort of skeleton key by which you understand everything else that is happening.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, when Trump ran on, you know, right from the get go, talking about immigration in a negative way, that was a no-no! That’s, you know, been banished! They thought they had basically done away with that! It was to the point, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The big surprise at this election, because Trump won the Electoral College the way he did by going after White voters in the middle of the country. It surprised them, because they thought they had basically sewn that up. They had made that illegal to talk about, if not technically illegal, they had made it politically incorrect, you know, “<em>semitically incorrect</em>” really, to even discuss anything that White voters wanted to hear.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And polling was used in the years between the elections to basically downplay any concern about immigration, or jobs, or anything like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they tried to do that through the election and basically, I think, Whites were just too fed up. They liked what they were hearing from Trump and so they voted for Trump, and now he’s in.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But there are some contradictions in what Trump says. I mean, listen to what he says about war, about ISIS and war. He’s against Iraq. He basically says things to different groups of people that can be heard in whatever way you want, that you like. And war is a good example of this where, you know, he was famously against the Iraq war and part of the way he defeated Jeb Bush during the primaries was by pointing out that the Iraq war was a disaster, and Jeb’s brother was responsible for that disaster.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, that’s one thing there is, of course, Trump didn’t mention the jews, who had basically organized and pushed for that war, and are the real people who are responsible for that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, you know, he also then makes these saber rattling comments about ISIS!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We’re going to destroy ISIS! And we’re going to build the biggest military! We’ve got to be a rich country!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He was just saying today:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We’re got to be a rich country again, because we’ve got to basically build up our military and pay for all these veterans!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s kind of at odds with, I guess it goes, it echoes Reagan again. You know, that’s the idea that you’ve got to be strong and warlike, ready to do war in order to prevent war.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that’s poppycock! It’s basically, you know, the history of war at least amongst Europeans, for the last two, three hundred years, what you could see as one giant European civil war, fighting amongst ourselves, has been at the behest of jews! And certainly profited by the jews, and the White race has lost!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I have said before that the White race lost World War Two and the jews won. But it’s bigger than World War Two. It’s every war before that, at least back to the French Revolution and probably beyond. And every war since World War Two has been for jewish, globalist, corporatist, interests, if not directly for Israel, and attacking Israel’s neighbors.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. I totally agree with you.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> In that respect <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[garbled]</strong></span>&#8230; For Trump. And he’s put now this Mad Dog Mattis and Pompeo …?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Oh yeah. I know who you are talking about. The guy, that’s the guy that’s going to be running the CIA? It’s like Pompeo, or something like that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah. Now these guys are “<em>tough guys</em>”, you know, they’re, &#8230; And oh, it’s Flynn, is the other one, that he’s going to make part of his administration, in some capacity.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, you know, the problem is that they’re strident. They think Muslims are the problem, and Muslims are a problem. But they wouldn’t be a problem if you kept them out of our country. And we don’t need to go and put boots on the ground all around the world to fight Muslims! The only reason we do that stuff is, because jews run our government. Jews are the targeting system for this highly capable, highly technical, highly expensive, military that the US has.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>White Americans often slip into this:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Our military, our government!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Way of speaking, of thinking about things. And it isn’t really true. It’s not ours! I mean, it’s us filling the ranks, it’s White people in the military giving their lives, doing the dirty work. But it’s really jews in the Pentagon and at the highest levels of government advising Presidents on these wars and instigating these wars.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[65:07]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. Advising them, formulating the policy, crafting the narrative. All explicitly to advance jewish interests and to advance Zionist interests in the Middle East! There’s no doubt about that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well I agree with you. I mean pretty much everything you just said I totally agree with.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean with Trump, I want to believe that he’s going to be this great President. And do all these great things and really get us back on the Right track. But I understand your concerns. I hope you’re wrong about the whole, you know, free speech thing I mean. Oh my gosh! I would that would just be devastating!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> I would really like to be pleasantly surprised. That’s why I’m kind of pessimistic about it. But I’m also, you know, there’s precedent for this. This is is not the uncharted territory that everybody seems to like to think it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Ronald Reagan is a pretty good precedent for what Trump has done and what Trump and what we can expect from Trump. This is something that White politicians, this dog whistling thing, is something that they’ve been doing for decades.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Ever since World War Two when White leaders basically abandon the field and stopped thinking and talking in terms of race, at least explicitly, they have realized that they can win White votes by just sort of talking code to Whites. Saying what Whites want to hear and that Whites are pretty desperate for because we have nobody since, maybe McGovern. And even George McGovern wasn’t, &#8230; Was it McGovern? I can’t recall it. But back in the sixty’s, you know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> George Wallace?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Right. And George Wallace wasn’t even sincere about it. He was just doing it. He was willing to say it out loud. Whereas other politicians around him weren’t even willing to say it out loud. But Wallace, afterwards – I forget where I read about this – basically admitted he wasn’t sincere.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I know Trump isn’t sincere. He’s not a sincere racist. He doesn’t think in racial terms. He just thinks in “<em>anti-racist</em>” term. So I don’t have much optimism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, what do you think about the Alt-Right and sort of what’s been happening on that front? I mean to me, ultimately until we’re talking about the jews and recognizing them as a racial enemy, until we’re thinking in racial terms, we’re really never going to truly solve any of these problems.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think the Alt-Right has been effective in at least getting that message out, and getting more people on board with these ideas.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think clearly that’s where the change is going to come. It’s not going to come from Trump, it’s going to come from people like us who are willing to talk about these things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah it’s bigger than the Alt-Right basically. The jews media before they were attacking the Alt-Right, they attacked White people generally. And I made the point early in Trump’s campaign that basically their rhetoric, their anti-White rhetoric would have been the same even if Jeb Bush had won the nomination and was the candidate for the Republicans.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’ve been doing it for at least the 2008, 2012 cycles. Jews writing editorials about how the Republican Party is the “<em>White party</em>”, and they should be ashamed of that. And they should do something to reach out to minorities. They’ve been doing it for a long time now. So that’s nothing new.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What’s new is the Alt-Right. And this basically self identification. It’s a label basically for this rising awareness that, &#8230;.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I made the analogy when I was talking to Kyle Hunt about this that it reminded me of the Tea Party. It’s basically the Tea Party 2.0. But it is an improved version. It’s a more aware version.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I saw the Tea Party when it was happening, when it rose up in 2008, 2009 in the wake of the election of Obama, as a step towards racial consciousness. Although it was still full of all of these people that were saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh no! I’m not a racist! Look at this black guy that I respect and want to hear speak. I’m just for constitutionalism and low taxes.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it was a rebellion of sorts. And it was triggered by the election of Obama. And throughout the last eight years it’s sort of been co-opted and defanged, and the energy has dissipated.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The Alt-Right was sort of a return. And this time with a more explicit understanding that the problem, the conflict is racial! And that at the heart of it are the jews!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the people that see that most clearly are even beyond Alt-Right. But, the people who self identify as Alt-Right at the best part of it, at least get that it’s race. And you can’t avoid the jewish question, the jewish problem. Beyond that is, you know, National Socialism and a true understanding that’s beyond Alt-Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[70:11]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then they have this Alt-Light phenomenon the other end of the spectrum, of people who are just ordinary White people who are basically realizing something’s wrong here:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This Trayvon Martin stuff, this Mike brown stuff, Black Lives Matter. Muslims blowing themselves up every now and then, killing lots of Europeans, or Americans. Something’s wrong! And oh, by the way, you know, all our jobs are gone. Our country, while is being hollowed out, none of our government officials seem to care about us! They care more about protecting immigrants and making safe spaces for them, and sanctuary cities for them!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they hear about this Alt-Right stuff. And so they’re basically flocking to the light, and they get exposed to basically the truth about what’s going on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s how I see the Alt-Right as fitting into this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The name Alt-Right, a lot of the people associated with that in the early days, and really when that was founded it, bug me, because they’re very weak on the jewish problem, and recognizing that the jews are at war with Whites. They kind of tend to be – I’m thinking now of Richard Spencer. But also his two partners originally at the Alternative Right Website that he started up, and who continue to be kind of associated with the Alt-Right, and critics of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re soft on the jews! You know, they talk about the symptoms. And Trump in a way is like this too. He’ll talk about the symptoms, but he won’t name the jews. And there’s a lot of Alt-Light type people, same thing! They’ll talk about what they see as wrong with society. But when it gets to:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“What’s causing it? What’s at the root of the problem?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They kind of dance around that issue. And that’s really what defines this spectrum of Alt-Light to Alt-Right to, on beyond, you know, National Socialism, and beyond.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, I agree with you! And I mean, I like Spencer. I like what he says. I think he makes a lot of good points. I do think you’re right though in that, at least from what I can tell, he hasn’t really been particularly as hard hitting on the jewish problem as say you, or I would. And I think it is key. I think it’s absolutely central to everything! But at the same time he doesn’t back down on it. He doesn’t deny it, or something like that. Which is fine&#8230; I mean, I like Spencer. I like what he’s doing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I wanted to get your take on the whole thing that happened at the recent NPI Conference, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Tan laughs]</strong></span> and how that’s kind of, &#8230; I don’t want to say “<em>divided the Alt-Right</em>”. But sort of made it very clear like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Look the Alt-Right is a racist, you know, anti-semitic movement!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And like this does need to be made clear and needs to be made explicit. And I think Spencer has handled it very, very, well actually.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes. Let me make myself clear on Spencer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>First of all, I don’t dislike him. And I don’t distrust him even. I think that he’s basically a White man standing up for White interests, and he’s doing it in public. He has all my respect. I was listening to him, watching him, at Texas A and M, earlier this evening.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And while there are some things that I thought he was weak about. In particular the way he was describing things it was sort of like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, we just sort of got here.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How did we get into this mess was never really something that he grappled with. And none of the questions that I saw anyway, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> He probably never explicitly said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Look, jews did this!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> mean like that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> I don’t think he thinks that, so, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> He does think that White White people are sort of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“All powerful and omnipotent. And if we just get our shit together then we can do anything we want!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I kind of agree with that. I think it’s the problem is in our heads. That we if we decide that we want to do something we organized to do it. We can kick ass! But it’s still going to be a battle! It’s not like there’s no opponent. And that’s what bothers me about the “<em>soft on the jews</em>” point of view, is it basically is ignorant of, or is ignoring this giant competitor that we have! That, at the moment, has us on the defensive and basically prostrate. It’s not the right way to actually go about fighting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But back to Spencer. He comes across as a very likable guy, you know, personable. He’s very articulate and he gets it. I think he’s aware of the jews, and he’s learning. I think I’ve seen basically a progression over the years in his attitudes and his recognition that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Yeah. This is serious!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Sometimes he’s a little bit too jocular about it, you know, sarcastic, or whatever. But basically he’s being a leader. He’s trying to get out there and get in people’s faces, and raise White consciousness. And he’s a he gets all my respect for doing that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But as far as the NPI conference, the “<em>Heil Gate</em>”, the “<em>Heil Trump</em>” and all that, and people giving the Roman salute. I think it says more about the people who freaked out about that and immediately surrendered <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> in reaction to that! Or basically thought that was some sort of like telling, self-defeating! Greg Johnson’s reaction was particularly hysterical.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> I missed his! Was he freaking out about it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah. It’s pathetic. It was like thirteen, fourteen, minutes of him basically just with a womanly attitude about the whole thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’ve made this point before, going back to the Dylan Roof thing. Is if people don’t like what’s happening you can always keep your mouth shut! If you think that the something is bad, instead of being basically negative and undermining. You could just be quiet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And people are going to say the same about me, that I could just keep my mouth shut about the stuff. And I even say it about myself. That I someone who’s involved with, married to a woman whose father was jewish. I have no moral standing, no right, to speak to White people about what they should, or shouldn’t do, or lead White people. But I’m sorry! Seeing people using the Roman salute, saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Heil Trump!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What bugs me about that mostly is the disrespect towards the actual National Socialists who are best known for that, and who deserve respect, not mocking, not a joking attitude, a sarcastic attitude about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I took it as though the guys, at least some of them who were doing it, were serious. They were excited! They liked what they were hearing. And it’s great when somebody can stir up a crowd like that. That’s of a positive thing! That’s exactly why the jews try to psychopathology that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“That only crazy, stupid, evil, haters do that kind of thing! And you shouldn’t do that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And to see people, long term people, who know better like. Greg Johnson, get so disturbed by it. It’s demoralizing <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> to see that happen!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He cited as evidence that, or maybe not as evidence, but it’s just sort of like the people who inspired him were people like Mike Cernovich, and Vox Day, and who’s the other the jew who does who’s the philosopher? Molyneux. All Alt-Light people who aren’t pro-White, who are part jews, or jews. Vox Day likes to brag about he’s tri-racial.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, if I got no standing to talk about things, then they certainly don’t. And why is Greg Johnson even concerned.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t even know what I’m talking about Greg Johnson! I wasn’t even going to write about it, or talk about it. It’s a sort of when you ask me my reaction about that Heil Gate thing, the reaction from White people, and especially White so-called leaders, or Alt-Right type people, is telling.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I agree with the people who have said this has exposed some cucks, and maybe will scare them off. And that’s a good thing! Go away!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Race is real! It’s about race. And the jews are at the heart of it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you’re not going to be able to just:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Step over the ‘Holocaust’!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>To be able to:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Step over the Nazis.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And call them the:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Old Right.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And say that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We don’t associate with those ideas.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because as that whole Trump campaign made clear, you can basically be a servant to the jews, and if you talk about things that the jews don’t like they’re going to call you a Nazi and Hitler anyway! Because in a sense you are! If you advocate anything that’s healthy for White people, in any way, even if at the same time you say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I hate Hitler! I hate the Nazis!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re still going to call you Hitler and Nazis!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what’s more important than what they call you is how they will treat you! Because what those labels mean is basically:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Sic ‘em! Get that guy! Kill him! Put him in prison!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s what they mean when they say those words. That’s what those words mean to them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[80:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> I completely agree with everything you’ve said.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is a point that I’ve been trying to make for, jeez, probably years now. Is if we are serious about this and we really want to set things right, we cannot avoid Revisionism, we can’t avoid confronting this fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative head on! And openly saying that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“This is not true! None of this is true!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s a weaponized narrative history that is entirely concocted by jews to advance jewish interests. It is a weapon being used against Whites. And we need to openly say that we have all of the evidence and proof on our side. It’s not as if this is in debate anymore. It’s been conclusively demonstrated that this story is not true!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Hitler was a good guy! Read the damn book! Read Mein Kampf! What is he wrong about? Listen to some of the speeches.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, that’s a thing. And I mean, we need to be openly saying this! I mean, what is so wrong with that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> That was something that Greg Johnson, that was one of the claims that he made is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Why would we want to attack the jews where they were strongest?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They aren’t strongest there! They defend the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. They make it literally illegal to question it, because it is their weakest point! Because they have harmed us so tremendously!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s that the war was caused by jews and jewing! It was a reaction! The National Socialists were reacting in self defense of the German people against the depredations that jews had done to them. The harm that they had caused with their parasitism! And the parasitism was not just the Germans. It’s just the Germans were the ones who stood up against it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> The parasitism happened for centuries, if not millennia before that, to other people. And it’s happened to other Europeans at the time when the Germans stood up against it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s happening now! It’s even clearer!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And once you realize that, once that’s something clicks in your head and you realize that you’ve been lied to your whole life about this fucking “<em>Holocaust</em>” thing! You realize Hitler was right! The National Socialists were right!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>White people have been basically fed upon by these jews for millennia now, and it’s coming to a head! They’re going to kill us! They are killing us!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. I totally agree.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> We are morally in the Right. We have nothing to run away from! We don’t need to “<em>step over the ‘Holocaust’</em>”! We need to refute it directly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes, I completely agree! And I mean there’s no avoiding this issue. There’s no stepping over this if issue if you care about White people. It is unavoidable.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> As I say, it’s been weaponized. And it’s a weapon that’s used against Whites! It’s harming Whites! Literally sucking, &#8230; I mean, you can measure it in dollars, or in pounds, or in marks, or now in Euros, the money that they take, they literally siphoned out of our countries and direct to Israel, because of the “<em>Holocaust</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, of course, that’s only a fraction of the overall harm that’s caused! There’s all of the crime. And all of the violence. And all of the murders, and the rapes, going on in Europe, because of this “<em>refugee</em>” invasion. And in the United States, because of our open borders.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That all happens, because we can’t have a country. Because that’s like Nazis and Hitler!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah! Exactly! Exactly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> If you want a a country you’ve got to deal with that issue head on!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes. I totally agree. One quick comment I want to make about the whole Heil Gate situation. I mean, based on some of the interviews I’ve heard, and it’s mostly Mike Enoch, one of the guys from The Right Stuff, he was on. And he was there and apparently he kind of initiated the salute there. It sounded like that they were very genuine. They weren’t trying to sort of, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Exuberant!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. I mean, I think there’s nothing wrong with doing a Roman salute. I mean, my God! Who cares? What struck me, and I mean, it doesn’t surprise me, but it’s just so incredible that the media was so focused on this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Meanwhile outside we have these radical antifa protesters attacking people, disrupting restaurants, barging in and assaulting people, and spraying people with, &#8230; I mean, literally they apparently had some container filled with human excrement. And they were like spraying it on Spencer and other people there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[85:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, this gets no coverage! And kids at school, young kids at school, young White kids at school who go on Facebook and say they voted for Trump, or say they like Trump, they’re getting beat up. No coverage! No coverage at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>A White reporter – I just heard a story about this – a White reporter down in Houston went on Facebook the very next day after the election saying she was thankful that Trump was elected and made a couple other comments. She’s fired from her job. No coverage!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, issues so insane that they’re freaking out about someone throwing up a Roman salute. A simple gesture, and meanwhile all these anti-Trump people are rampaging in the streets, burning down cities, attacking people. I mean, it’s just so insane! And so infuriating to see this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well it’s ironic, you know. They have this sort of two faced reaction. I made a little meme, an image meme about it. That the jews, they like out of one side of their face to mock us, that we’re so insignificant, we’re never going to win.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then at the very next moment at the other side of their face, you know, they’re fretting about what’s going to happen when we do win!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that you saw that with their reaction to the NPI thing. Which was such a blow up! The media blew that up way out of proportion, because it’s the jewish media.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t say “<em>media</em>”, I call it the “<em>jews media</em>” even though it takes more characters in Twitter. I always wrote “<em>jews media</em>”, because it’s good to emphasize what is behind it. Instead of calling it the “<em>mainstream media</em>”, or the “<em>liberal media</em>”, and the “<em>liberal bias</em>” of the media, it’s a jewish bias in the media! It’s a jewish agenda, it’s jewish narrative.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They say they disguise it just like they disguise themselves sometimes. And other times they make it crystal clear.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And when they freak out about some guys given the Roman salute and saying “<em>Heil</em>”, they are basically telling us, &#8230; It’s like with their reaction to Trump’s speech about globalist elite, and bankers and media, that they’re telling you that it’s all about the jews, and exposing themselves!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. Hey real quick. What do you think of Spencer’s speech down there at Texas A and M? Did you get a chance to watch it?</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> The initial coverage was pretty bad from Red Ice. I tuned in to a different link that was clearer for like I think the second half of the speech. And then the question &amp; A, I caught the first half of that before that link went bad.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My reaction is respect. That he’s out there speaking openly to – in hostile territory – these people. Basically trolling them in real life. And that must be what he’s doing. Because I mean, it’s part of, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One thing I don’t like really is why is he even talking to the enemy? Once I woke up to see race and my own feelings towards Whites, and myself as a White man, I had no interest in debating with blacks. And even as much as I now focus on jews, and trying to understand their arguments, and trying to understand their tactics and their techniques, I don’t have any interest in debating them about anything!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There is nothing to debate with our enemies! All we need to do is debate with ourselves to come to the conclusion that they are enemies! And that’s, I think, the most important thing, that they are enemies! And we need to fight them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, the thing is, and you can see this, &#8230; I didn’t really see much of his speech. I saw a few little video segments on Twitter before, you know, we started reporting this. So I really didn’t see hardly anything that happened there. But I did see some of the Q &amp; A, some the questions asked.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the thing is, and I’ve discovered this online, and comments, and whatnot, trying to engage and trying to have an honest discussion about these issues with jews, or with non-Whites, and you try and try, you try to be is honest and genuine as you can and explain your point of view as best you can, without being insulting, or condescending.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And these people are just dishonest! They don’t even want to try! They don’t even attempt to understand where you’re coming from. It’s that, or they’re so delusional, so brainwashed, by this anti-White narrative that you cannot have a discussion with these people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s one clip I put it up on my Twitter feed right now. It’s a brief video of this big fat black chick at the university. She gets up, and she asked Spencer this question. And she’s saying how blacks founded civilization, and how blacks taught White people philosophy, and architecture, and everything else. And it’s like this lady, this black woman really does genuinely believe this! And not a single word she said is true, or backed up by any historical evidence, any archaeological evidence. She’s just so gone!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s like, how do you even engage in a discussion with someone like that? And the answer is, you can’t! Yeah you can’t, you don’t! It’s a waste of time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I totally support what Spencer is doing. I think it’s good to have at least get up there and present our perspective. Something from a pro-White perspective. And I think he does a good job at that.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> He did it without apology.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. I think he’s good.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> George Lincoln Rockwell used to do something similar. He used to go to colleges and give speeches in front of large audiences, to hostile jews, and anti-White Whites. And they were very popular.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in fact, they were so popular that basically that was part of why this strategy of the jews to what they call “<em>No platforming</em>”. To basically stop debating!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, they understand this existential struggle. And the fact that we are enemies! And once they understand that, they have this attitude that I’m talking about, or that you see, they don’t debate honestly. There’s nothing to debate! You’re a Nazi! You’re a racist! We you’re supposed to be destroyed:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I’m surprised you’re still around. I thought we got rid of all you guys?”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That kind of attitude. And it’s a relentless and uncompromising attitude.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I learned that lesson early with this guy, Lawrence Auster online, who used to write in such “<em>intellectual</em>”, you know, nit picky. He would tear apart logically liberal arguments. And the minute you touched on the jews, he just lost his, &#8230; All the intellect went out the window! All that desire to argue and pick apart the little details, out the window!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You’re an anti-semite! Your basically a non-person, a non human being!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Wouldn’t even talk to you directly anymore. Just talked about you in the third person like you were non human. And that was a shock to me, because I was like, as you described, at that point I was still kind of like not clear on just how deep this went. And how the racial animus, I didn’t understand it as racial animus.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I understood that the jews were enemies. I said that, I think, in the first post I made about it. Is they are not only our enemies, but their enemies. Which is kind of like I think the right idea! I had it pretty early on, I guess, when things snapped in my head I got it right away.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it took me years then to basically fill in the pieces, the missing pieces, about how we got here. How did this happen, and the basic techniques that they used, the psychology of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. Very well said. And there’s been a good conversation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I have one final question and it relates to, &#8230; You had mentioned how the jews pursued a strategy back when Rockwell was giving all these speeches, of basically just not covering anything he was doing, at least for a certain period of time. They just deplatformed him, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Banning him!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. And banning him and shutting it down, of course.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But now it’s like they can’t give us enough ink, you know, they’re promoting the Alt-Right and all this, even though they’re doing it in many cases very dishonestly, and trying their best to demonize us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[93:39]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> What I hear from the hive mind is that they’re torn on this. It’s like with Trump too. They gave Trump what they thought was enough rope to hang himself with. And it didn’t turn out the way they thought.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They thought by covering him that they would basically expose what a nutcase he was and people wouldn’t vote for him. And it didn’t turn out that way. They don’t have the level of control that they thought they had.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s the sort of the positive message here. Is the jews are omnipotent. They’re not all powerful. They can be fought! And they can be defeated! Trump defeated them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Unfortunately for us, he’s not a racialist, he’s not pro-White, he’s not anti jewish. But he was able to defeat them in spite of them throwing almost everything they had at him, short of bullets in the head.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Well, what’s amazing to me is that they are giving us so much coverage. When they could just not be covering any of this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> It’s the rope thing. Like with the Heil Gate and the Bannon thing. It’s their concern and they’re airing it. And they’re putting their spin on it. And they’re basically building on decades of propaganda and billions of dollars invested in this negative associations with these things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so when they write a story about the NPI conference and these people giving Nazi salutes in Washington DC, There are basically trying to scare each other, and sort of warn each other:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Hey! It’s happening again! It’s happening! And we’ve got to do something squash this!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s why they do it. And I think they will switch to just silencing us. And it’s basically they can do both. I mean, they’ve got the ADL and other organizations lobbying constantly to get us shutdown. They try to shut down the NPI thing. They do both at the same time. They cover it with their spin on it, and <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> they try to shut it down same time! And there’s not a contradiction there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s a constant debate, as I was saying amongst the hive mind of the jews media. On Twitter you can see them having this debate every day about this whether they should do this, or that, or more of this, or less of that. That kind of thing:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Is it good, or bad for the jews?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Basically.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Constantly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> What do you think is the future of the Alt-Right? Do you see this as something that’s going to have a legitimate political impact in the years to come?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[96:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yes. I think like the Tea Party, it will go on. There’s been struggles for this past year and a half over the soul of it, and who gets to define it. And I know Andrew Anglin has fought very hard to make sure that people did not “<em>steal it</em>”. And that Alt-Light didn’t get away with it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Even Spencer himself has defended it from Alt-Light type people coming into it and trying to redefine it. The jews media tried early on to define it as Milo. Milo Yiannopoulos was the leader of it. And I forget who else. Several other like not just Alt-Light, but, you know, jew friendly type figures that they tried to nominate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And even recently Jared Taylor, up until this Heil Gate thing, jared Taylor was being touted as a leader of Alt-Right. And that’s kind of disgusting to me!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because, you know, Taylor, as much as I can credit him with waking people up to racial consciousness, he is a person that has spent far too much time thinking about what the problems are to not see the jews, to not see the jews role in this!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And every time he’s pressed on the issue, he cucks for the jews! He defends the jews! Says that they’re White basically, or at least some of them are, and that we sort of have to welcome some of them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because why? Well, he never really explains. Why do White people need to accept jews as White? There is no good reason that he offers for that. And he’s really pressed on it. And when he is pressed on that he disappoints as far as understanding that the jews are the enemy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think that his statement about the Heil Gate thing was basically he went right to the point of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I don’t think it’s a good idea to call jews enemies. The jews can be White.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said. And that’s exactly wrong! That’s worse than Alt-Light! That’s worse than normie White! That’s like you’re basically an enemy yourself!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> If you don’t recognize the enemy and call it “<em>the enemy</em>”, and, in fact, say the opposite, that they’re not our enemy, that they’re actually White people who maybe have lost their way, or whatever, and we should accept them. That’s actually like enemy activity!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Treason, yeah? It really is. And I mean, the guy’s very intelligent obviously. And he said a lot of very good things. But on this one issue. I mean, I’ve always felt this way about him. Because I remember the first time I discovered his work. It was him cucking on the jews. And I’m like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“What is this guy talking about!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Jews are not White. I mean, ask a jew yourself and they will tell you they’re not White. They hate White people <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>. They’ll tell you themselves!</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> They dance around it! This is something that has been coming out during this election cycle is this “<em>goy posing</em>”, where they pretend to be White. And there’s value to pretending to be White for them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s the only time they will pretend to be White is when there’s value in it for them. Either to shift the blame to White people. Like say when some jew gets caught doing something really bad, you know, they’re portrayed in the jewish media as a “<em>White</em>” person!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This is just another example of White privilege and White abuses!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’re not identified as jews. That’s one thing. But then they’ll also, and this is even smaller jews. And online, on Twitter, this really got exposed very badly. And the (((echo meme))) thing was a big part of this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That the jews will say something negative about White people, speaking for White people, speaking to White people, as a White person:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I think this, or that shitty thing about White people!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they would posture as if they were White.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And people started to basically call them on it and put parentheses around their (((name))), or mock them, and laugh at them. And say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You’re not White! You’re a jew!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the best was when they post some picture, a snapshot of some previous tweet, that they had made where they were saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“As a jew, I think this, or that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this isn’t just some new thing. It’s newly discovered, and it’s a new form of calling the jews on it. It’s actually a very positive sign that White people are calling the jews on this. For decades the jews have gotten away with this posturing as White, in order to tell us what to do, to basically posture as moral authorities about what White people should, or shouldn’t do, should, or shouldn’t say!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, sort of like that the double talk of it, is that then if they are pressed on the issue, it’ll be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, because I’m a jew, I really understand these issues best about hate and minorities being oppressed, and, because of the &#8216;Holocaust&#8217; and all!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s a real example of privilege where they can basically be White when they want to shit on White people, and shovel blame our way. And they can be jews when they want to be treated specially in a positive way and be protected, because they’re jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is something that they’ve done throughout history. This posing as their host. I mean, it has this biological analogy where a parasite will literally disguise itself. It’s called “<em>Crypsis</em>”. So that the host mistakes it as one of its own.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And understanding it at that level, it’s very explicative. It really explains what’s going on in a solid sense. But it’s also like the most stomach churning way of seeing it, that it makes so much sense, it’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“God, this is bad!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> This is for me, I’m a kind of embroiled in it. And Trump is too!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You see how it happens. The jews gravitate, at least some of them do, towards mixing with the most powerful in their host. And they use that infiltration then to enhance their ability to manipulate that host.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And by doing it amongst the most powerful people, of course, they get the most leverage that way. By intermixing with the aristocracy, or the leaders of a given society.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think of it as like claws, or fangs biting into the host, and it allows then the larger body of jews, the other half of the jews the jewry, the Orthodox, Hasidim, who basically are a closed gene pool, transfer the wealth and the energy that they suck out of their host to that sort of fruiting body to feed on! It’s disgusting! But that’s what’s happening right now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Jew York City especially, sort of like the epicenter of this, where you got these Orthodox jew communities springing up, colonies really, you could think of them as, all around the New York City area. Where basically they take over. And it’s like a little Israel in those places!</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah. It’s a real problem. The jewish problem! That is the best way to look at it. And as he said before it really is a jewish war on White people. That’s the way it should be understood. Because that’s exactly what’s going on. And the sooner Whites recognize that, the sooner we can finally deal with it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in order to deal with it we have to be clear about race. We have to be clear about what the jews are up to. And we have to be real about our history! And not accept these weaponized jewish narratives of World War Two especially, but many other aspects of our collective history.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we cannot let them manipulate us with these with these buzzwords, “<em>racist</em>”, “<em>anti-semite</em>”. I mean, we have to totally break free of all of their aspects of control. And I think we’re making steps in that direction.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[104:56]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Oh yes! Big progress! Lots of people, it’s incredible how many people and how quickly they’re waking up to it. I remember when I first woke up myself. It seemed like it was kind of depressing, because there were so few people that were actually discussing it. I mean, it was literally a handful of websites. And all credit to the generations of men and women who’ve gone before, that were aware of the problem and died for it! Died fighting!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But by the early 2000s it was like just a handful of people in the corners of the web where we’re discussing these things. And now it’s just a totally different environment. It’s like a giant websites with obviously hundreds, or thousands of people getting together and discussing these things. And discussing it, like I said, on Twitter, openly mocking the jews, as jews, for trying to pull their old tricks that used to work.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’re not working. So the reaction to that is to shut down. That’s why they ban people when you do confront them and expose them directly. Then that’s when they have to shut you down.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> That’s right. Well Tan, I don’t know if you had any other closing remarks?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you do please let us know. And if not, you go ahead and plug your website. And we will wrap up this program.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah. This just one last point. Which is that a theme I’ve hit on many times over the last couple of years, is this “<em>suicide meme</em>”, which is also “<em>pathological altruism</em>”, it’s sometimes called. Which I think of a “<em>suicide meme 2.0</em>”. It’s more a more sciency thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think it’s been discredited. And I think it wasn’t because of the arguments that I made – maybe a small part because of that. But it was mainly because the events going on around us discredited the idea that White people are doing this to ourselves! We see that it was the invasion of Europe when the so-called “<em>refugee</em>” thing got out of control in 2015. A lot of people, even people who previously had been silent, spoke up about it and could see for themselves that this is destruction! This is not self-inflicted.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is like a somebody inside the Gates has opened the Gates for the outside world to pour in. And our leaders, our supposedly leaders are welcoming it! And defending these aliens against us! And that was exactly the kind of thing that I realized back in 2007, or so, when I woke up, that it was a clear to me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But a lot of people, &#8230; Just like Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, and these things that the jewish media have had hyped out of control, “<em>Black Lives Matter</em>”, what it finally culminated in, it actually ends up a wakening people to what’s going on. And so I think that’s a good thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’m sick of hearing about the suicide meme! I thought in its original form it originated from jews who are basically just trying to make an excuse for the fact that it was a jew war on Whites. That’s what’s going on. It’s a genocide agenda! And it’s a jewish genocide agenda of Whites.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think a lot of people getting that. They’re not just getting that it’s about race and about jews. But they get that Whites are in big trouble. And yes, we’ve got all sorts of pathological behaviors and all sorts of sick things, degenerate things that we’re up to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this is not something that arose naturally within ourselves and would have happened without the jews. This is totally instigated by this alien people that see us as their enemy! And have basically inflicted this upon us. And it wouldn’t be happening without them. So it’s, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yes. I totally agree.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> We have to fight! I mean, that’s the main way. When people say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! But we have to improve ourselves! We have to do better and, &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah! Let’s do better! Let’s recognize our enemies as enemies! And let’s fight them! Instead of pretending that we’re the only thing that exists in the world. And we’re the only force to be reckoned with.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s not going to work. I mean, that’s like if you were, I don’t know, infected with some small parasite that makes you sick. And you just pretend:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“All I have to do is think positive thoughts, and have a strong identity, and then this wouldn’t happen to me!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No! It would happen! And you need to recognize what the real root of the problem is and deal with that problem!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s the last thought. My web site is <a href="http://age-of-treason.com">Age of Treason dot com</a>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[110:04]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s not much activity between say January, February of this year, and just this past month. And I don’t know how long have the energy to keep writing. As I said in the past, I don’t really like repeating myself. I see these themes over, and over, again.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Twitter kind of got me in the habit of, on a daily basis, posting at least short things. So people may notice compared to my older blog posts which were very long and detailed. And I don’t trouble with that anymore. I don’t make elaborate arguments anymore.</p>
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<p>Maybe I still have that in me at some point I will post that. But right now I’m more concerned to get important issues, and focus on them, make a blog post focusing on an issue that I think is actually crucial. And maybe say something pretty simple about it.</p>
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<p>And it’s a good way to get past writer’s block for me. Because after being away from it – blog posting for so long – actually, it was quite a struggle to write the first blog post <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>! I was instigated by the pent up energy of not being able to post on Twitter anymore. So it happened.</p>
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<p>And once it happened once that I was able to start writing more. But I don’t intend to go back to multi page long things. And I don’t even know about podcasting. I mean, it took a lot of energy to make the podcasts I’ve made. And I covered all the basics.</p>
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<p>At this point, I’d only be adding a few little details. So I don’t know what I’ll be doing in the future, is basically what I’m trying to say.</p>
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<p>If people are curious about these issues and they think that what I’m saying is exaggerated, go read some of the things I’ve written on my blog, and documented, and linked to. I make detailed arguments. For people who are truly curious, they’ll go and they can find the information.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, I completely agree. And I hope people do check out your website and check out your radio archives. And also check out the previous podcast that we did a year ago, that I mentioned at the very beginning of this program.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> I agree.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Yeah, I think that was very good. And, in fact, the title of that podcast was “<a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/12/08/the-realist-report-tanstaafl-the-jew-as-a-parasite-transcript/"><em>The jew as a Parasite</em></a>”! So we really get into the jewish problem in probably even greater detail than we did in this show.</p>
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<p>But yeah, man, you’re always welcome here. I mean, it’s always great talking to you. I think between you and MacDonald, I think you guys are really kind of done more than then, &#8230; I mean, I guess in a contemporary context I think Hitler’s had a huge impact on my understanding of the jewish problem.</p>
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<p>But you and MacDonald have added a lot to it. Help me come to the conclusions that I’ve come to. And I think they’re very well founded and unavoidable!</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> If you simply do the research.</p>
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<p><strong>Tanstaafl:</strong> Well, thank you John. And it makes me happy to hear that I’ve had an influence, a positive influence, on other White people. And I’ve heard that from a handful of people over the last couple of years. And it makes me happy!</p>
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<p>I mean, I’ve invested quite a few hours in trying not only to understand it myself, but then to try and explain it in terms that other people would maybe have an easier time then, if I laid it out, the work that I had invested. And I’m glad I did that. And I’ll continue to do it as long as I can find the time and energy to do it.</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Excellent! Well, thank you so much for joining me today. We will have to do another program in the future, maybe once Trump finally gets in and, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>John Friend:</strong> Once we see what he’s doing, exactly! Yeah that’s really what I’ve been&#8230; I mean, we can sit here and speculate all day long. But I really want to see what he’s going to do. I think some of his picks are kind of revealing. But ultimately will this kind of have to wait and see what happens. But hopefully we’ll still be able to communicate if, you know, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> at that point assuming he doesn’t sign some crazy legislation.</p>
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<p>So anyways, thanks a lot than! And I really do appreciate it. And please do keep up the great work. And I hope people check out your website. And we will talk again soon.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/12/10/the-realist-report-interviews-tanstaafl-2016-transcript/">The Realist Report Interviews TANSTAAFL — 2016 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Red Ice Radio&#8217;s host Henrik Pamlgren interviews Andrew Anglin the publisher of <em><strong>The Daily Stormer</strong></em> for the first time. — KATANA]</span></p>
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</span><span class="text2"><strong>Andrew Anglin</strong> is the founder of <strong>The Daily Stormer</strong> and has written countless articles on race realism, nationalism, Jewish influence, and social degeneracy.</span></span>We begin by discussing the recent terrorist attack at Ohio State University. Since Andrew hails from Ohio, he’s able to offer us a firsthand perspective on the – and growing – Somali community in his home state. We learn that the Somalian refugees are overwhelmingly unemployed; many, though, are involved in illegal activities, such as heroin trafficking. Unlike other immigrant groups, such as Mexicans or Indians, Somalians aren’t brought in by the elite as a cheap labor force. In light of this, we ponder why our ruling class is intent on importing large numbers of people who are, biologically and culturally, very different from us. This leads to a discussion on the issue of Muslim rape gangs in Europe, and how decades of Jewish control of newspapers have pushed a narrative that have convinced White people that it is moral to commit racial and cultural suicide.</p>
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<p>The members’ hour<span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong> [Part 2]</strong> </span>begins with a consideration of Jill Stein’s recent push for a vote recount in Michigan. We laugh at the absurdity of the situation, and Andrew reminds us that the recount will ultimately prove meaningless. Switching gears, we discuss the fact that some people still believe Trump is a Jewish puppet; Andrew <em>half-jokingly</em> suggests that the notion of Trump being part of a Jewish conspiracy is itself a conspiracy benefiting Jewish interests.</p>
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<p><b>Henrik Palmgren:</b> Welcome ladies and gentlemen, I’m Henrik Palmgren. This is <strong>Red Ice Radio</strong>. We are very glad to have you here today. <strong>redice.tv/live</strong> is the website. Please check it out for more radio shows, videos and our TV show and of course our busy news section, as well.</p>
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<p>Well today with us is <strong>Andrew Anglin</strong> from the <strong>Daily Stormer</strong>. I don’t think he needs an introduction, frankly. I think both friend and foe do know him by now. A very effective journalist that covers the kind of stuff that very few others do. At least in the humorous, in the way that he does it. And, of course, there is a lot that we have on the plate today in terms of discussions to go into, from Trump, to the Alt-Right, to the recent <strong>NPI</strong> controversy. But also, of course, the attack on Ohio State University, the people there. By the, I mean the feral Somalis population up there. And do believe me I know the situation. We have them in Sweden too. I think you guys recall the Australian, <strong><em>Sixty Minutes</em></strong> crew that were in the suburbs outside of Stockholm to cover how great immigration was. They were actually attacked primarily by Somalis. So it is, for sure, a problem. But Andrew, welcome to the show. Good to finally actually have a dedicated radio show with you. We have you, of course, on our TV show before, but we haven’t had a chance, I guess, to sit down and spend two segments together, so thank you for coming on.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew Anglin: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’m very happy to be here Henrik. I told you when you sent me an e-mail inviting me, I said I’ve been waiting years for this!<span style="color: #008000;"> [Henrik laughing]</span> So I’m very, very happy to be here!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Sure! Of course, you know, it’s great, of course! You were on Lana’s show before and we had you on the TV show and this seems like a perfect time, considering what happening, in Ohio. You know, your home state, to actually address this issue.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes</span>.</p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> I haven&#8217;t, &#8230; Frankly I haven’t, actually, embarrassingly have to say, I’ve been so busy both after NPI and all the things that we have upcoming, with live streams and live shows, that I have not actually been able to follow up on the Ohio situation. How, &#8230; Can you break this down for, I guess, the audience and me actually. Quickly in terms of what actually happened?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, it was an eighteen year old Somalian refugee and he was attending OSU and drove his car into a crowd and then got out and started stabbing people with a butcher knife, and then he was shot by a White police officer. No one died. So, a total of ten people were injured. I think most of them were stabbed. The car, the driving, people kind of moved out of the way, when he drove his car into them. So, most of people who were injured were stabbed. And he, yeah, I mean, this is what these people do. He had been, interesting enough, he had been profiled in a, in a OSU, I think it was Lantern, which is the official OSU student journal, student newspaper, talking about, you know, how he was a good refugee and he was integrating and he was, you know, cooperating with the system, assimilating. And he was complaining though, about that there weren’t enough prayer rooms, OK?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when I first saw this, I could, I’m around these Somalians, you know. This is my city and we have, they won’t tell you how many there are. But there are probably a 100,000. I mean they give you these different statistics. And, you know, a few years ago they came out and said there was like 50 something thousand, but I think there’s a lot more than that. I mean, these people breed like rats! And I think that, you know, they play these games with statistics, where it’s like well, some of them are not actually refugees anymore, because we gave them citizenship. Or, you know, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah, word play, stupid, &#8230;</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, you know, “<i>mathemagics</i>”. But they, these people are everywhere. So I’m aware of the, you know, the behavior patterns of these people. And they like an extremely low IQ. Like lower than even the new norms for mentally retarded. Like they have about a 60 to 65 average IQ. So, I mean these are the lowest IQ group in the world, besides, the Australian aboriginals. I mean these are not even like normal negroes. So when I saw this, &#8230; When I saw this attack, I said he probably just got the idea in his head and just did it right then! You know, just went and did it, because like, I’m just going to do this right now!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, it turns out he did post something on Facebook, but, before he did it. But, I mean, the way it’s written on Facebook, it looks like it was done on a phone. I think, probably he made the decision to do this without any, you know, prior, at least not more than an hour, or so, prior thought to it. You know, I mean it’s just like any of these people that can just blow at any time. And it’s surprising that it doesn’t happen more often.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah, it’s amazing. I think average IQ just looking at peripheral fast search here, Somalis 68! And I think, what is the retardations like, 50 to 55? It depends on what level, of course, but actually it goes up even up to 70, I believe, mild mental retardation. Couple that, of course, with, you know, some of these populations in northern United States, lots of Scandinavians there and stuff, it&#8217;s usually around, &#8230; I don’t know, 100 maybe, something like that, &#8230; Very difficult for these people to integrate into our kind of society.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">No and they don’t attempt to. I mean there’s like, &#8230; Of the first generation refugees, &#8230; they were like, &#8230; they came over as adults, like 7% of them had jobs. This is statistic from a couple of years ago. You know, I’ve studied this before, I was kind of looking into it recently. I was going to write a big article about Somalians in my city and, you know, just my experience with these people, but they’ve taken over entire areas and they just create Somalia inside of these ghettos that they create. and they&#8217;ve taken neighborhoods, you know, they first started coming in the mid 90s.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I was born in 1984 so, when I was, you know, pretty small boy they started coming, they allegedly had a civil war. I mean, you know, I say allegedly, it’s like that these people are always having these tribal wars and so on. But they used it as an excuse to just flood us with these people. The governor at the time was getting tax breaks for bringing these refugees in, Federal money rather, for bringing these refugees in and settling them in Ohio. Mainly in Columbus, which is my hometown and, &#8230; yeah, &#8230; So they took over entire — I mean you can just, now you can look at a map of the city and say well this is Somalian territory! Because nobody, nobody can live near them, even the local, &#8230; I don’t know what you’d call them, “<i>indigenous negroes</i>” cannot live with these people. And they’re the ones who have to live the closest to them and they can’t get along with them at all. They hate them.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t know if people, you know, I mean you do from Sweden, they go to Sweden, most people in the US probably are not aware — unless they are from Columbus, Ohio, or from some place in Minnesota — of what these Somalians are. They’re not like normal blacks, they have a bulb shaped head that looks like a gray alien. <span style="color: #008000;">[both laughing]</span> I mean it’s a really weird face they have, it&#8217;s like a triangle. And, you know, they have a completely different behavior pattern. I mean actually most of the people that come over from Africa, if they’re from Sierra Leone, or something, these people are not, &#8230; they don’t act like American blacks. They’re not, you know, super violent. I mean they’re stupid and they live on welfare and so on, but they’re not so bad as the American blacks.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But these Somalians are much worse! And they drive cars, &#8230; I mean, I don’t know how they are allowed to drive cars, but they just drive them and crash them. One time, you know, family members, there were two crashes where a Somalian was responsible, in my family, within like a month and a half period. You know, these Somalians will just slam straight into you! And then, I mean, &#8230; they don’t even try to drive correctly. And I mean, you have to run into them at gas stations, you know&#8230; And they’re just horrible these people. They make this noise. Their language is like some kind of, &#8230; I guess it’s a little bit influenced by Arabic, but it’s like a totally tribal language. I don’t think most of them can read it, but when you go to the BMV they have Somalian language. In all government buildings, I think now, in Columbus. They have Somalian language written on signs.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Hm! Amazing! I remember, actually just a quick anecdote about this. Actually, many years ago I was kind of interning at this kind of a government program to try to learn foreigners coming to Sweden, have them learn Swedish, right? So I actually, I handled the computer class for some of these people and I think those were the most difficult, &#8230; just to communicate, convey the idea, you know, about the how the computer operates. So, for example, when you move the mouse, you know, on the mouse pad, or whatever, that, that reflects the movement of the mouse <span style="color: #008000;">[cursor]</span> on the screen. And some of these Somalis were basically unable to communicate the methodology of how a computer works to them.</p>
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<p>Very fascinating! and it was like<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> causing tremendous amount of problems because these <span style="color: #008000;">[people]</span> comes to our societies. In a country like Sweden we have a very high education level. Actually in Sweden, you know, most of the young adults there they go to school the longest period of anyone in the world, almost. And so they have a ton of education behind them. And for us to integrate these people into that educational system and then get them into the workforce, is basically close to impossible. Which means that many of these people are just left outside of the workforce and are just ending up living on welfare. And I guess, I would assume, it’s the same in the States then?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, absolutely. I mean these people have been there for decades and there’s nothing going on. I mean I’ve never seen one behaving normally. I mean, you don’t see them like, you know, working at a normal job. Sometimes you see them like, &#8230; You don’t even see them, like, working at MacDonald’s, or Taco Bell or something like at a drive-thru. The only jobs they are going to be working are like sweeping floors. I mean, they are really just the epitome of the stupid non-white immigrant!<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It&#8217;s like, anybody who talks about that, “<em>race doesn’t exist</em>” you can look at two groups of people — you can look at Somalians and you can look at the Aborigines. The Aboriginals of Australia. These are like, &#8230; you can’t even really say that they’re, like, the same species.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t know why Somalians, you know, I mean there’s probably some kind of explanation for it — but I don&#8217;t think anybody has really researched it — why they&#8217;re so much different than the rest of the Africans. I guess it’s some kind of inbreeding, you know, I mean these tribes over there, wherever they are going on, they are probably obsessively inbreeding to create this weird look they have, and this behavior.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah, I mean a lot of tribal warfare there, as you said. That&#8217;s been, of course, one of the reasons why they’ve been exported to some, you know, many other countries. I’m just reading the fertility rates of the average Somali woman is about 6.56. That was measured in 2013. I mean that’s a lot compared to the Western world! And some of them I’ve even seen some families that have like 13, 14, 15 kids! And despite this, it says — I guess this goes back to the statistics I just mentioned — they claim there’s about 85,000 Somalis in the US. That can’t be right, it has to be more.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> No, I think there’s that many in Columbus. I mean probably. There’s, you know, they’re everywhere and, you know, but they gave us numbers like from 2012 that they said, close to that. Well not close to that, I think they said 50 something, or 60 <span style="color: #008000;">[thousand]</span>. I&#8217;m not looking at it in front of me right now, but I mean, it’s just, everybody says it’s a lie. Everybody knows that it’s a lie, and there’s like a 100,000 of these people in Columbus, Ohio. This is the number that everybody, that lives there, kind of is working with on the ground.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, the other thing about these Somalians, and it’s like, it’s, they’re totally useless! And the only, &#8230; when you look at it you’re like, the only reason you would bring these people into your country is if you were trying to destroy the society! So it’s like, you know, with the Mexicans, or with the Indians even. Well, I mean probably the Indians more than the Mexicans, &#8230; You know, they’re working these low jobs, these low paying jobs. The Indians come in take away tech jobs and working for lower wages. And the Mexicans do, whatever, I mean construction and working in restaurants and cleaning and so on. You know, these people actually, &#8230; you can say like as a capitalist, from that perspective of like, we need lower wages. That this make some kind of sense to bring these types of groups into the country.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But when it comes to the Somalians, all they do is live on welfare and commit crimes! They do nothing else! Like I say, I mean, the statistics is like one in ten, less than one in ten has ever had a job! They just all live on welfare. And you see them driving around in SUVs. I mean, I don’t know, a lot of them sell heroin. I didn&#8217;t say this before, a lot of them in Columbus, Ohio, are involved in this heroin trade, as well.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> I didn’t know that there was that many in Ohio. I mean, I&#8217;ve heard of Minnesota obviously and it seems that these globalists, like, love to push the Scandinavian, like Somali connection, for some reason.<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> It&#8217;s like ultimate disaster! But I didn’t know that there was that many in Ohio, &#8230; OK, so, I mean, this is the situation that has occurred, it’s fairly rare, but I’ve seen footage of these, like stampedes, in malls and stuff like that, which seems to be primarily driven by Somalis. Is this – are we going to see more of this kind of behavior now, do you think?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[14:53]</strong></span></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, probably. I mean, I don’t know how many more of them are going to be allowed in. Hopefully Donald Trump is going to remove these people. But, I mean, basically what they’ve done is create their own ghettos that they are expanding now. But they don’t, I mean you don’t see these people all that often, living in Columbus, because you avoid them. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, there’s intersectional places, where especially they can hit you with their cars. You know, in places where the neighborhoods cross and you’re going to be at an intersection and they’re going to run the light and just crash into the side of your car! Which happens all the time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, you know, I mean they created their own ghettos. So as far as like, you know, mall stampedes, if that happens probably nobody would even know about it, because it would be at their own mall where they’re the only people there and probably the shops are owned by Arabs and Turks, and nobody even would be aware that that happened. A couple of years ago there was a big thing where they rioted when they were trying to get Section 8 housing, and there were like a hundred positions open for Section 8 housing and like, over a thousand Somalians showed up and they start fighting and burning cars!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I mean this is the most primitive country in the world, basically. Somalia! They have no government. The libertarian dream, they are living it in Somalia!<span style="color: #008000;"> [both laughing]</span> But they, you know, the initiation of force that is going on. But yeah. This is a primitive, &#8230; I mean these people are living in dirt on the ground. <span style="color: #008000;">[more laughing]</span> You see pictures of Somalia, these people actually living on the ground!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> There is a tremendous problem obviously with Islam and some of these radical groups, I think it’s Al-Shabaab. We’ve actually had a lot of people, the infiltration of Al-Shabaab into, actually, certain Swedish institutions and stuff. And, you know, these, you know, naive Scandinavians seems to be utterly, just completely devoid of realizing what this is, or how dangerous this is, or what these people are all about. And I think, you know, we’ve heard about other kinds of stabbings at malls and attacks, and I think was one even in September, there were some Somalians that were attacking someone in a mall, or something like that. I think this is going to be a tremendous, you know, problem. Why do you think he was — has anything come out why he was like radicalized, or how this was done? Because it was was a Muslim thing, right?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, yeah. He left that Facebook post where he said — he started talking about Burma! What is that even, &#8230; it must have been something, &#8230; Burma! I mean who would even think of Burma?! And what has the United States have to do with Burma? They might have something to do with Burma, I actually have no idea. But, I mean it’s mostly a Buddhist thing going on in Burma, where they’re sick of the behavior of these Muslims. He started talking about Burma and I said he must have watched something in a class, I mean he is at OSU. He must of, because who even hears about Burma? I mean this Burma situation has been going on forever! It’s not something that people are sitting around thinking about Burma. So that’s what he wrote in his post. I don’t know. He probably watched ISIS videos, or something.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean they’re all obsessed with Islam because, you know, they’re very primitive people and this appeals to these people. And I mean, when you bring a foreign group to live among a population that is totally different than them, they’re going to bond together and hate everybody who’s around them. Unless they’re White people, because White people wouldn&#8217;t hate anybody. But, you know, maybe this is a problem, but actually, &#8230; they will bond together and, you know, that Islam kind of helps with that. And that’s one of the reasons they probably refuse to learn the language, you know, they just look at everybody else as an “<em>other</em>” and yeah, &#8230; I mean it’s surprising it does not happen more often. I mean it does happen. They shoot a lot of people, but it’s usually like drug related, or just some kind of thing in a parking lot where they shoot somebody and nobody knows why. I mean that stuff happens virtually every week in Columbus, Ohio.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But they’re horrible and they destroy neighborhoods. It&#8217;s like, as soon as — you know my family works in real estate, property and so on — you know, as soon as a Somalian moves in to a neighborhood, it’s like, well, that’s over! Yeah, literally everybody starts trying to sell and the property prices collapse. Because nobody wants to be around these people. And they bring them all — they can bring. I mean they can drive down the price of a property by moving into a neighborhood and then everybody wants to get out. So then, they can move in and the people who own these apartment complexes are forced to work with the government at that point to, you know, like government housing, Section 8 deals with the government. I mean this is a pattern of how they’ve just expanded and taken over the city.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[20:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah, it’s pretty amazing. Obviously they would be — as you said, just to hammer that point a little bit — they would feel by default as outsiders because of the fact that they won’t be, &#8230; they won’t be able to come into and integrate into society. So they will literally create like, a society within the society. Again, we have the same problem in Sweden and it&#8217;s not only Somalis, it&#8217;s many other groups. But the fact is, that this will make them feel alienated, it will make them feel as outsiders, which is very likely why some of these people are drawn even more to radical Islamic ideas. Because it was like they, they’re grappling and reaching for some kind of anchoring, really, some kind of root, something that ties them to their identity. And frankly I understand that. I mean, that’s a human drive, but the viciousness of this comes into the fact that there is someone lobbying to bring these people into Western countries and think that somehow this is going to turn out good. I mean it’s insanity!</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I don’t think that anybody actually thinks that. I mean, when you see the Somalians, anybody who is around these people, they are like the Zerg. It&#8217;s a good analogy there.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> What was that again?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> It&#8217;s from Starcraft.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Oh, really, OK. That was a long time since I played that, &#8230;</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, an insectoid alien race, &#8230; Nobody can say that they’re offering benefit to society and they just keep coming! I mean they just keep coming in! And they keep bringing more and more and more of them in and they’re reproducing. And, I mean, nobody can explain why you would bring people, because why? I mean, the only thing to say, is that it’s sad that they’re poor. So you have to bring them in your country and let them live on welfare? And this is like a nonsense type of argument! It&#8217;s sad that they&#8217;re poor, so we&#8217;re going to just destroy our city, our society, because it’s sad that they live in this poor country?</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Right.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">That&#8217;s insane! I mean there are poor people all over the world, so based on this logic you would have to bring everyone in the world into the US?</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> And they&#8217;re trying, aren&#8217;t they? And they&#8217;re trying, &#8230;</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">They are, they are trying, yeah! With these other groups, though, you can come up with some kind of argument. You can say, well the Mexicans, they’re doing the jobs Americans don’t want to do and — I mean, businesses at a certain high level, they are benefiting, at least in the short term, with driving down wages, or they have, you know, benefited in the short term with driving down wages by bringing all these Mexicans. So you can look at it and say, well this is why they’re doing it. I understand there’s a logic to that, that these big companies lobby the government, they want open borders because they benefit from this cheap labor. With Somalians the only possible reason you can do it is because you’re trying to destroy society.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Absolutely amazing! You know, this is not going to end well. And we’re just, I think just seeing the beginning of this now.</p>
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<p>What do you think — let’s get into Trump a bit here and let’s speculate a bit about what he can actually achieve in these kinds of situations, in these kinds of scenarios. I mean he was the one who actually addressed, you know, radical Islam. He actually, you know, brought it to the surface, he talked about it and thankfully people love the fact that he was addressing this kind of stuff and immigration and really trying to tackle some of these issues. Where do you think he’s going to go, when more and more of these kinds of attacks are going to occur and there’s going to be — I mean, it seems that the attitude of mainstream liberal America right now is basically, we can’t, by name, single them out. We can’t assume that they are going to, you know, be terrorists or commit any crimes, because if we do that, we alienate them. And at that point they will turn on us and they will bomb us, basically. So they think, like — just shut up about it, don’t say anything, don&#8217;t bring any attention to it and it’s going to go, it’s just going to go away. That seems to be kind of the mainline strategy right now of  how to deal with this issue.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I know. I mean, this is the thing they keep saying that if you say anything negative about Islam, then you’re helping terrorism and you&#8217;re encouraging terrorism! So if you hurt their feelings, they will kill you! And this is what they said, Donald Trump is helping ISIS, by saying he doesn’t want more Muslims in the United States. If you stop them from coming in then the ones that are already there will kill you! <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> It&#8217;s like, &#8230; Wow! I mean, that kind of logic, this was crazy to me! Because it was like, it wasn’t just one person who said that, which would be bad enough. It was like the whole media at the same time, was like, if you don’t let more of these people in, then the ones who are already here will kill you because of it.</span> <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> So, you see, they think they’re preventing terror — that’s the way that they’re going to deal with terrorism! Just bow down and do anything they want, try to bend over and they won’t kill us. No, problem solved, Right?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I know, yeah. That is the bottom line of the reasoning that they are presenting. And I mean, you know, if these people are so, &#8230; unhinged that if you do something that hurts their feelings they&#8217;re just all of a sudden start killing people randomly, these terrorist acts where there’s going randomly kill people, then probably you should not have any of those people in your country. I mean it’s the most obvious thing! You know, Muslims — what is the benefit of these people? What do they provide to society? Muslims, I mean we talk about Somalians — that’s, you know, the most extreme — but just generally Muslims — are they benefiting our society? Can anybody really make that argument seriously?</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Why do they need to be — it’s almost when you hear the rhetoric of mainstream media and these progressives — it’s like, they have to be in America, we have to continue to bring in more Muslims for some reason. I haven’t heard it being legitimized, or reasoning behind it, it&#8217;s just we can’t possibly keep them out. We have to bring them in. What’s the reasoning?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">There is no reasoning. Just that we will call you a racist, which is the worst thing anybody can be called, if you don’t accept it. So you have no choice to accept it, or we will — if you don’t accept it — we will call you names. And this is, I mean, with Donald Trump we finally broke through this because he was just like, &#8220;<em>What?!</em>&#8221; I mean we got to the point where we cannot talk about this and you can&#8217;t say openly, &#8220;<em>What are these people doing here?</em>&#8221; I mean this guy who drove his car and stabbed these people at OSU, he could have been — he could be sent home. I mean, he is not a given — I mean, they can all be sent home. This stupid thing that you can’t possibly remove them. Every single one of these people who is not White can be sent home from the United States. That is physically possible and it wouldn’t even really take that long. But this guy, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Don&#8217;t they want to leave already, now that Trump has gotten in? Is he somehow — they think he’s going to deport people already so they’re thinking about leaving — some of them, I guess? I don’t think they would though. They just talk, right, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I know, I mean it’s like Lena Dunham, she was going to leave. Yeah, I know. I mean, I think they’re trying to get all they can before they’re forced out. But like, OK, you know, some of these people, to get some of these people out, Donald Trump — I mean he would have to work with Congress and there has to be a process and so on, but the visa that this guy had, who stabbed up the kids, at OSU, he could just be sent home. I mean right, like immediately. Donald Trump could sign an executive order to strip that class of refugee visa and they could just say well, &#8220;<em>Hey buddy, you&#8217;ve got to go back to Somalia, you know?</em>&#8221; Maybe read up on some libertarian literature and you can start a private road business. <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> There is no government country.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So yeah, I mean that group of people can be sent home. He&#8217;s talked about sending home these — I mean he says, he&#8217;s promised he&#8217;s going to do it immediately. Round up two to three million illegal Mexican criminals and send them home. So there are things that he can do to get rid of these people immediately, that don’t require congressional approval, or any kind of government process, to just do it. And a lot of these Somalians — I mean they’ve given a bunch of citizenship now, so obviously that creates another level of technical details that you have to deal with to get rid of these people. But, a lot of the Muslims can just be sent home, a lot. You know, a huge percentage of all these people can be sent home.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> You know, I think Trump hopefully — he made a smart kind of a word play, I guess, when he did that – after he won the election — he did an interview with 60 minutes and, you know, they were like — that was one of the central questions that the interviewer, whatever her name is — Lesley Stahl, or whatever the hell her name is, &#8230;</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, a horrible woman, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> [laughing] Yeah, absolutely horrible. She was like pressing him on this issue of immigration and like, &#8220;<em>Oh my</em>&#8221; — or these illegal immigrants — &#8220;<em>What are you going to do? How are you going to deport these people?</em>&#8221; And then he started talking about, you know, &#8220;<em>Well the criminals, like those that are criminal</em>.&#8221; And my reasoning when I heard that it was well, by default a criminal would be an illegal immigrant, right?<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> The very aspect that they’re here in the US illegally that makes them a criminal. So by even his own definition that should mean — he should be able to send all of them home, because they’ve entered into the country under false premises. And all he has to do is basically create the legal incentive, willpower and direction of the government of saying, &#8220;<em>No, these people did it wrong, they have to go back!</em>&#8221; And then he can, you know — I think he said something like that – they can apply from the outside, or something like that, whatever. But the point is they&#8217;ve not followed the rules and hence they are criminals, right?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[30:25]</span></strong></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. No, I mean — what he&#8217;s talking about is ones who have committed crimes other than the immigration itself. That have committed crimes and are being held, you know, in sanctuary in the United States — just allowed, I mean they arrest these people and then just release them. They don&#8217;t deport them.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> I know, it&#8217;s amazing.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">So what he’s talking about is doing a roundup. Like a mass roundup — like kicking in doors, you know, at 3 a.m. pulling people out of bed in their underwear and throwing them in a black van, get them on a train back to — back across the Rio Grande. So I mean, I think he&#8217;s going to do that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">What you would do after that though, I mean in practical terms, is start giving serious fines to both businesses that hire them and people that rent to them. Because if they can’t get jobs, or can&#8217;t get places to live, they have to go back. And then, after you did that, second step — then you could go in and roundup any stragglers. But, I mean, if you don’t – if you require documents to work, I mean besides like, you know, maybe some guys at the Home Depot they’ll pick them up in the parking lot to help them with the dry wall, or the landscaping. But I mean, I would even send out, you know, arrest, fine the people who are picking them up in Home Depot. Just send cops out there in Home Depot. But I mean the ones who — I mean there are all these businesses, these major businesses that hire illegal immigrants. I mean they’re allowed to. I don’t know, I mean it’s illegal, but they’re allowed to do it. They don’t get punished for doing it. So, you know, if you stop that from happening, most of these people are going to actually self-deport.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean the Jewish media keeps attacking that term, &#8220;<em>self-deport</em>&#8220;, but this would absolutely happen. I mean, what are you going to do, if you can&#8217;t work and you don&#8217;t have a place to live? Unless you&#8217;re involved in drug trafficking. But most of these people would be shipped out in the first wave of two to three million.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah, exactly. I wonder if Trump starts addressing this and let’s assume that there will be — let’s assume the media’s correct and there will be more terrorist attacks. Obviously the media will blame Trump in that it’s his fault. He’s creating this with his rhetoric, or whatever, and obviously this would turn up the heat on this kind of conflict, which I think is kind of inevitable at some stage anyway. It seems like — but it would be, you know, it might be tougher in the short term, but in the long term this would be something which is much more beneficial — I mean I’ve always held the view that, you know, these multiculturalists and these progressives that are pushing this kind of society that we’re seeing developing now — that is the society that’s going to lead to bloodshed and terror and bombings and just horrible, you know, crimes and slaughters and terrors.</p>
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<p>And what we’re advocating is the separation of people, to have their own nations, which is going to, you know, be much more difficult for people to over ethnic and, you know, other levels find ways to fight with each other. I’ve always seen this as the &#8220;<em>peace solution</em>&#8220;, if you will, and theirs as the &#8220;<em>war solution</em>&#8220;. What you think?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I know, absolutely. I mean we see this already. You don’t have – in ethnically homogenous countries you don&#8217;t have these levels of violence. I mean you do in black countries and Arab countries because these people like killing each other. But you don’t have that in any White countries that are left, you don&#8217;t have people killing each other and blowing each other up. You know, why would they do that? What would be the point of doing it? Any kind of conflict is either over resources — I mean it’s pretty much is always going to be over resources, unless it&#8217;s some kind of nonsense thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I mean these ethnic warfare — these are competing genetic groups, competing for control of the society to inflict their will on the group that they’re occupying. So, I mean, that’s when you have these, like Pakistani — they call them grooming gangs in England, where they get these little girls and put them in sex slavery, and are trafficking them around, I mean this is a , &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Kebabgate!<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[34:50]</strong></span></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, yeah. This is a way of attacking the social order of the foreigners and humiliating the men. Humiliating the men in the society that, &#8220;<em>We’re going to take your daughters</em>&#8221; and, you know, &#8220;<em>pass them around</em>&#8221; and just, you know. I mean the stuff that they do to them. You can read at <strong>Counter Currents</strong> — there’s a few very good articles on there detailing what these Pakistanis were doing to these girls, you know, I don&#8217;t even want to say it, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah, sodomites. The worst sadists, worst fucking atrocities ever! Disgusting!</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And these little girls, you know, 11-12 years old, and they&#8217;re doing these gang bangs! It&#8217;s just horrible stuff! And this is a way to humiliate the men. And this is what, you know, Cologne, when they do this <em>taharush</em>, this is to humiliate the men. Like, &#8220;<em>We are assaulting your women in front of you and you are doing nothing!</em>&#8221; And on a biological level men should be able to understand that, like, these are our women. These women belong to us and they are violating our women in front of us. This is the most demeaning, degrading thing that any group can do to another group, just on a very basic primal level. And everybody should be able to recognise that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, you know, I mean with feminism and the emasculation of men and this brainwashing program that men have been through, they’re not seeing that. But, you know, whether they recognize this or not, we are in a hostile situation. We are in a race war situation all over the Western world, because we have flooded ourselves with these people that are intent on conquering us.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I, you know, I mean you always have to go back and blame the Jews. Because, it’s the Jews who created this social cultural paradigm that makes this OK. And in almost everywhere, it’s the Jews who are actually engaged in the process of bringing these people into our countries. </span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Red-Ice-Radio-Andrew-Anglin-2833-Somalis-in-Sweden.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-32166" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Red-Ice-Radio-Andrew-Anglin-2833-Somalis-in-Sweden.jpg" alt="" width="768" height="589" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Red-Ice-Radio-Andrew-Anglin-2833-Somalis-in-Sweden.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Red-Ice-Radio-Andrew-Anglin-2833-Somalis-in-Sweden-600x460.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But even if the — you know, the immigration groups and the laws that are being passed are not all run by Jews which – that the laws are passed by Jews — in the United States they all have been. But, you know, these people try to play a game with you, like, &#8220;<em>Oh well, there’s this country where there’s no Jews</em>&#8220;, but they running the government, but they still have a high level of — I mean, I think Sweden. I don’t know.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Well, you’re right about that. It&#8217;s the morality that has been pushed in the cultural dialogue. I mean, we had David Schwarz, for example, was one of the prominent Jews in Sweden that in the 70s started to put — I think maybe even 60s, I’m not sure now, I have to look that up again — but he was basically pushing this in the media and despite the fact that a country like Sweden only has like, I think only 20,000 Jews or something.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Red-Ice-TV-Ingrid-Carlqvist-Scandal-3300-David-Schwarz-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23994" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Red-Ice-TV-Ingrid-Carlqvist-Scandal-3300-David-Schwarz-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="828" height="823" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Red-Ice-TV-Ingrid-Carlqvist-Scandal-3300-David-Schwarz-Ver-2.jpg 828w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Red-Ice-TV-Ingrid-Carlqvist-Scandal-3300-David-Schwarz-Ver-2-600x596.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Red-Ice-TV-Ingrid-Carlqvist-Scandal-3300-David-Schwarz-Ver-2-768x763.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 828px) 100vw, 828px" /></a></p>
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<p>I mean, there’s a tremendous over-representation of Jews in the media. Bonnier family, of course, they hold, you know, owned the major publications and newspapers and printing and stuff like that, books, you know, publications. But even the small time — like small Podunk local town papers that was bought out by some of the biggest Jewish conglomerates and — you know, so you can read about what’s happened locally like in the little town here and there in the paper. But then, all of a sudden, there’s like every other week, there’s like a Holocaust story, or like when the Jews came to this little town… <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> Any of these people care about this? It’s like ridiculous… That&#8217;s my point – but they push immigration as like a moral virtue in the media, that&#8217;s my point.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">The whole new — you can call it liberal, I guess — the whole new social paradigm that the Western world, and cultural paradigm that the Western world is soaking in is entirely Jewish. So, you know, this is what they sold to the goyim — this new form of morality where the highest form of morality is actually commit a genocide against yourself — is ultimately what it is. I mean, you see this where it’s very clear in Germany. I mean, I just posted a video of this German, he&#8217;s a blond German guy in his 20s or maybe early 30s who’s teaching migrants how to seduce – migrants, Somalians, Afghanis, Pakistanis — how to seduce German women!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah, Mister Flirt, what&#8217;s his name again? I know whom you&#8217;re talking about – Horst Wenzel.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Horst Wenzel, yeah! And the government is funding him to do this class. And the government gives out – I think Lana made a  video — where the government gives out these documents showing immigrants how to impregnate White women! I mean, they have these pampflets that have the black penis going into the White vagina and impregnate — semen coming out and showing the baby inside! </span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Oh, god!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #333333;"><b>Andrew: </b></span>They’ve printed these documents and handed them out to the immigrants! What is going on here?! This is an actual attempt to genocide the German race!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:10]</strong></span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> And what he’s doing — and this is an excellent point that what he’s doing, Horst Wessel here, is basically — he’s trying to basically give them a code of how to get these women in bed. Meaning, you know, you have to adapt a little bit to our culture so that they will basically open up to you and open their legs. Right? So it’s like — it’s a very incredibly sly way of making sure that these women are immediately accepted as that that these guys are, for example, maybe not, you know, coming on strong, or something like that. I don’t know, but they would they’re probably like that anyway. Right? Because most of the Western men are emasculated at this point anyway, so they probably, &#8230; I mean some people even argued that, like, reasons why many of these feminists are pushing some of the stuff is because on some level, subconsciously, they want some of this. I don’t know if that’s true, but, you know, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised frankly by some of these feminists anyway.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, no, I absolutely believe that it is true, that they, &#8230; You know, &#8230; I mean feminism is a demand for men to become men and, you know, put them back in line, because, women have been put in a position where they can’t reproduce as they’re supposed to by the feminist, you know, system. Where they’re supposed to go to college and go get jobs and all this, when it’s just a basic biological fact that they should be producing children. I mean, they should be! I mean, you know, I mean — basically a woman in nature is going to be pregnant, you know, at 16, 17, maybe even earlier. <span class="Apple-style-span">And they have a drive to do that. It’s a biological drive to reproduce.</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, when you tell women, &#8220;<em>Well, maybe you can get married when you&#8217;re 30, maybe?</em>&#8221; I mean this is way after peak fertility and, you know, I think it drives women a little bit insane! And I think there is a subconscious drive to return to some kind of more natural setting. And I think that it’s very clear that they view these Arabs as — and blacks even — as representing something more close to the natural order. And I think that’s why you have all these women, &#8230; At least a part of why you have always women out there protesting for this mass, this invasion and saying, you know, &#8220;<em>I’m a feminist, but I also want Muslims, &#8230;</em>&#8221; because that doesn’t make any sense! That doesn’t make any logical sense on the face of it. You’re a feminist, but you also support Islam. That’s like an insane type statement!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yes, exactly. Andrew, I guess it’s also been one of the more controversial things, I guess, you’ve been talking about on the site. I know that some people have charged you that, you know, you don’t like women for this reason and I think, obviously, everyone who has their head screwed on right, can see that feminism is a problem, or whatever. But there’s been some back and forth, whether or not this is, you know, women’s fault, or whatever. We had, for example, that video by <strong>Black Pidgeons Speaks</strong> that kind of went into this a little bit. That video went all over the place and there was a lot of push-back on that kind of mentality as well.</p>
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<p>But, is it anything you like to say about that? Or is there a way that we can still, &#8230; Because I see that there is obviously a relationship that we need to start developing with our women, to have — be on equal footing — not equal footing, but we need to be understanding of the fact that we can work together to take care of this problem. Instead of, you know, basically having issues that drives the wedge deeper between us and creates an even more rift, that’s what I mean.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I know, I get accused of, quote, &#8220;<em>hating women</em>&#8220;, which I don’t even know — this is like a, I think, a type of nonsense statement. No, I do not hate women! I am very appreciative for women. I, you know, I like women. I have a girlfriend. I have a very good relationship with my mother. I don’t have any specific issue with women, which, &#8230; People suggest that I have some kind of personal problem here, but no!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">My view on women is that when we had the correct balance between the genders before feminism. So, you know, I mean, basically men have the same opinion of women. If you go back a hundred years, and then you go back to the beginning of recorded history, and then you go back to the caves before that, you’re going to have pretty much the same view of women! Which is not hatred for women. I mean, to say that there was thousands of years, or millions of years if you go back to, you know, the invention of language, a conspiracy against women is totally nonsensical.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">My view on women is that they have a specific role to play in society that is different than the role that men play in society. And I think that they should be, you know, in the home. They should be mothers. And so, when you get into the political realm and you have women involved in politics, I think, it can be, maybe, problematic on some level, because that’s not something that women are naturally interested in. So, I think that, you know, it can be something where people put too much focus on this idea that, &#8220;<em>Oh, we&#8217;ve got to get women into politics, &#8230;</em>&#8221; and I&#8217;ve said well, you know, I mean this is like a bunch of women saying, &#8220;<em>Well, we’ve got to get men interested in shoe shopping!</em>&#8220;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">[45:33]</span></strong></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think it’s probably not something we’re going to have a bunch of women interested in radical, you know, revolutionary politics, you know, that all the journalists, &#8230; So, obviously you&#8217;re going to have some women — we do have some women. But all the journalists at NPI – we should talk about the NPI later – all the journalists were saying, &#8220;<em>Where are the women? <span class="Apple-style-span">Where are the women?</span></em>&#8221; But the fact is, women are not especially interested in this type of thing and I think that’s fine! It’s natural for women not to be especially interested, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> And still there was quite a bit of women there, actually! It was like they were blind to me, these journalists, you know? Majority of men obviously, but, you know, they were there. Amazing!</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, you know, I don’t have any issue with women. There’s a lot of hyperbole and satire and so on on my website. And I think that people take that and say well this guy supports beating women!<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> No, I do not, I do not support beating women! I do not hate women! I think that women are much happier in a — I mean like a lot happier — in a traditional social order where they’re at home, they&#8217;re mothers, they&#8217;re having kids and taking care of the kids, and not trying to pretend to be men.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Basically what the Jews have said to women is that you’re defective men. You just need to become more like men, repair yourself from your femininity and become a man! and I don’t think this is — I mean this is insulting to women to say femininity is a negative thing, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #333333;"><b>Andrew:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> A</span></span>nd then, you know, they have to become masculine, they have to become, you know, men! They have to become like men, that everything is pushing them into this role and I don’t think that women are being asked whether or not this is what they want. And I think that what feminism has done is feminize the male space, by bringing all of these women into the male space, we feminize the male space and we feminize boys by making them have to conform to female standards. You’ve got this woman here it’s going to change the behavior of men. And when you have women in all-male spaces it changes the entire ability for men to function as men.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I mean women still have their own spaces that men don’t get involved in. But women have been shoved into all of places where men traditionally were able to have their own space and be dominant in their own environment. So, I think that shoving women into all these things has been, <span style="color: #008000;">[has]</span> had <span style="color: #008000;">[an]</span> overwhelmingly negative outcome and I think it’s something that needs to be reconsidered, because this has been shown not to be helpful for society. Just like we were talking about the women — the men have been so feminized that the women, they’re not even attracted to them anymore, because of — and this is what feminism has done — this gender reversal. I don’t think it’s been something good for anybody.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> I know, exactly. I mean, you’re right. Millions of years of evolutionary paths we’ve developed roles and functions which is, you know, biologically and genetically tied. And for women that means fulfilling the most important roles that there is — which is the continuation of our people, of our folk. It&#8217;s the most noble task that there is and it’s really unbelievable that, you know, the propaganda and the psyops has been so strong, so powerful that this very biological function they&#8217;ve managed to turn on its head, now they’re walking in the opposite direction. So yeah, absolutely extraordinary!</p>
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<p>But Andrew, we’re going to take a break here in just a little bit and, of course, we’re going to continue to talk more after that. We’re going to talk about Trump, what to do now, when he is in office. Where is this recount issue actually going anywhere. We’ll talk about the role of the Alt-Right, you know, post Trump, NPI and much more like that.</p>
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<p>But, tell people a bit more about your website. I don’t think there’s many that listens that are new to you, Andrew, but tell us a little bit about it anyway and if there’s a way that people can help you out and support to make sure that you can continue to do the work that you do.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[50:04]</strong></span></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah my website is <strong>dailystormer.com, </strong>and people can donate, but, &#8230; not really! <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> Pretty much have to mail me money, because all my stuff has been cut off. Bitcoin, people can send me bitcoin, but I don’t really have any way to fund the site, because I’ve been banned from everything, because of the jews.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Ouch! <span style="color: #008000;">[both laughing]</span> Yeah! Well, that shows we need ours own platforms. Well, actually, let’s talk a bit about censorship too in the next segment, here in terms of what’s happening right now with Twitter and where this is going to go. They&#8217;re even thinking about banning Trump, I guess? I mean this is retarded!<span style="color: #008000;"> [Andrew laughing]</span> This is going to crash their own, &#8230; this is going to go into the toilet for Jack there.</p>
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<p>We actually have — let me just mention that here too, right at the end — we have coming up here shortly a couple of live streams. We’ll have more information on <strong>redice.tv/live</strong> about that. From the Italian EU referendum, and then we’re going to turn to live stream the speech that <strong>Richard Spencer</strong> is going to do at <strong>Texas A&amp;M</strong>, as well. That might be interesting. but yeah, let’s take a short break here, folks. Stay with us, Andrew, we&#8217;ll be right back with the second segment.</p>
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<p><b>Henrik: </b>Welcome back ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us. We’re speaking with Andrew Anglin from <strong>Daily Stormer</strong>. We are talking about Trump, we’re talking about the situation in Ohio with the Somalis and the bigger questions of where we are going in terms of our our people and the survival of European man, the White man, and woman for that matter too.</p>
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<p>We’re going to talk a bit more now about Trump. I wanted to discuss a bit about him winning the election, basically and what, if any role, that the Alt-Right actually had in that. I know that they are doing, of course, Jill Stein, I think she’s definitely Jewish, I think. She’s doing, <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> she’s doing a recount effort right now. And I guess she was raising millions of dollars to try to trigger this and I believe Wisconsin that actually did it, or something like that. What do, you know, about this issue Andrew and do you think this is actually going to go anywhere? Is there any indication that the Electoral College would change their mind? Can they change their mind at this point?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">No! No! This is just a blatant Jew money grab by Jill Stein. That’s all it is. I’ve looked at it. And it’s not even possible, I mean Michigan has already counted twice. Are they going to count a third time because she sues? No! They’re going to be like, look we did this twice already. We’re not doing it another time. You know, Wisconsin, &#8230; It doesn’t matter. There’s no way! I mean, even if they did flip Wisconsin it doesn’t matter. So, they’re not going to do that. This jew woman, Jill Stein, is just saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We’re going to make it so that Donald trump is not the president. Just give me money and I’ll make the pain go away!”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">she is exploiting theses emotionally vulnerable crazies, who are, you know, flipping out about Donald trump. I think it’s now two times that the donations to her campaign recount, is I think, two times her total intake of donations for the presidential campaign.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Wow!</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And on the site it says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well we might not use all this money for a recount, but we will use it for something!”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> Like, we’ll use it for “<i>election integrity</i>” in the future.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik: </b>Right.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Which, what does that mean? I mean it means absolutely nothing!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik: </b>Because she was against Hillary! I mean she even warned against her and said like, horrible when it comes to the wars and stuff. And she must realize that this effort, &#8230; I mean I don’t think this is going to go anywhere, but if you did, what would happen would we get Hillary in office? I mean, that’s disastrous! Even she knew that!</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, no, but I mean this is not, this is not an honest thing that is she doing. This is just a money grab by a jew. I believe that 100%. There’s no, she doesn’t believe, there’s nobody believes that. I mean these computer programmers came out and said, “<em>Well, it’s possible,</em>” I mean the basic thing that they said was, “<em>Well if Russia would have hacked the election, then they would leave no evidence.</em>” And there’s no evidence! So maybe Russia hacked the election! <span style="color: #008000;">[Henrik laughing]</span> This is literally what these computer programmer said this. They came out and said this and she said, “<i>Aha! This is proof!</i>” That the proof is no proof. So, you know, I mean this is an extremely, it’s just a Jewish hoax situation.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then the media goes on at the same time that they’re talking about it. “<em>Oh yeah, we need this recount, Jill Stein. We’ve got to do this!</em>” They’re telling Donald Trump that there’s no possibility that there was any voter fraud. I mean that is that whole thing that was going on, where they’re talking about Russia’s going to hack the election, but Donald Trump says, you know, there could be fraud, but that’s a conspiracy theory. But somehow Russia is going to remotely hack, and that’s what the whole Jill Stein thing is, is that Russian did it. I mean, this whole Russian did it meme is nuts! I can’t believe really that they keep pushing it.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Extraordinary!</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because it’s like, it’s not, you know, the 80s, the Cold War’s over. And I mean, but, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> They used to love Russia! They used to love communism, right? Now they’re just like, they have flipped, like that! It’s amazing! <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, you know, people don’t even think about Russia! Like when you start, &#8230; Hillary was talking about Russia, Russia, Russia! People are like, “What? You mean that country from the 80s? What does that have to do with anything?” I mean, it’s like a normal person is like, “<em>What?</em>”</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik: </b>Yeah, you think so? They’re not buying the, &#8230; I mean we know that, of course, the media as credibility goes, have taken tremendous hits during the ascendancy of Trump and well done for him on that. I mean, you know, even that issue alone is worth celebrating him for. The fact that he managed to destroy the reputation of these major media companies. And they continue to lie through their teeth and they’re continuing to ruin doing their reputations and that’s that’s awesome!</p>
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<p>But the fact that, you know, you have a, &#8230; It seems at least that there is one of these liberal kind of following that still believe that somehow, you know, Russia is going to like, nuke America, or something. That they believe that they’re going to be like, trying to control the election, or, I guess control Donald Trump somehow, through donations, or something. I don’t know what they believe, but it’s amazing that this conspiracy theory keep lingering even in the mainstream media, isn’t it?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I don’t think many people actually believe it. I think it’s just something that the media is, &#8230; They don’t have anything else to say. It’s like there’s nothing else that they can come up with, so they just, I mean they would normally blame, like a right wing, like the Republicans. But the Republicans are all against Donald Trump as well. So, it’s like well, they dh to blame Russia. There was nobody left to blame! They weren’t going to blame themselves, so they just said, well, we’re just going to blame everything on Russia! And Russia said, what are you talking about? What is anything, what are you talking about?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, Russia, I don’t think, you know, did anything. I mean, it’s possible but there’s no evidence Russia did anything to do with this election. They definitely didn’t hack the voting machines. They came up with that it wasn’t even possible to do that. They kept talking about it and then they said we would have to actually be there, to do it. You couldn’t do it remotely. So, you know, I mean it’s a completely weird thing to come out and say that Russia is behind everything!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, Angela Merkel is coming out and saying that Russia is going to destroy their elections! That Russia is going to hack their elections and that Russia has an army of internet trolls and that they’re putting out propaganda against the EU! And, you know, they pass this resolution to shut down Russian Internet propaganda and, I mean, they’re trying to censor the Internet actual mainstream Western media is doing to Russia, &#8230; To talk about Russia is involved in a propaganda conspiracy with secret troll operations, they have troll factories! This is a term that they’re using. They say that Russia has troll factories where they have, I guess, just cubicles full of skinheads<span style="color: #008000;"> [Henrik laughing]</span> with<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> with Pepe shirts with MAGA hats on! You know, just trying to get SWJ feminists to kill themselves, on Twitter. I mean, I don’t know, they never really gone into details about this. But Hillary, in her speech, said that the whole Alt-Right was controlled by Vladimir Putin! That Alex Jones was working directly for Vladimir Putin.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, you know, this is just a really goofy type thing! I mean, it’s like, it’s like cartoony!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah. You know, people think that there’s going to be disaster under Trump and I think that things are just going, on a very mundane level, mundane, I mean, we talking about bringing back jobs and all these kinds of things. He was even making deals already with the Carrier play, and he’s not even in office yet, and it’s already happening. He’s great, you know, like he’s saving jobs and all this kind of stuff. And I think people are going to be, &#8230; Those people are so, you know, in opposition to Trump, they’re going to be in such a state of cognitive dissonance, that they’re not going to comprehend the fact that things are going to start improving. What do you think you’ll be able to actually pull off and is there any, is there any reasoning for us to be worried about, let’s say his, you know, Israel policies, or, you know, some of these prominent Jews that are around him and stuff like that? Is there a concern, is there a reason to become concerned about that?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, on the first thing, I think he’s going to make America great again. [laughing] Second to that question, no, I think that on the material level and on the very, the very basic level that we are going to get rid of these immigrants, we are going to make a bonding between people. People are going to feel stronger socially. And I think he’s going to do what he’s talking about with the economy and make it so people are making better wages and they can have, you know, a house and have a better life. I mean, if you start bringing, &#8230; I mean he’s talking about, I mean he’s literally in negotiations before he’s even president with Apple, to bring factories home to manufacture Apple products! I mean this is like, &#8230; I don’t think Apple products, not since the 80s have they’ve been made in the United States. So, I mean, this is like a revolution!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">As far as the jews, this is a very important question — the jews around him — because, you know, I mean there’s crazies on the Internet — I’m sick of even entertaining these people, they’re like Donald Trump worked for the jews all along.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Right.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think this is actually a jewish conspiracy — the jewish conspiracy is saying that Donald Trump is part of a jewish conspiracy — I mean I’m sure that some kind of — this is not a natural meme. That’s just a bunch of crazies on the Internet would come up with that, because he’s done so much already, that even if it stopped now — I mean we have come so far, that to say, “<i>Well, they wanted him instead of Hillary!”</i> is insane! So I mean, some people are just so hopeless! They think there’s literally no way, [we can] have any effect whatsoever on the system and that’s just where they are in their minds. And I think it’s basically, just literally, a mental illness.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But these jews around him — I mean, this is a real concern! You know. So when you start saying, “<i>Well, what about these jews?</i>” I mean, he just appointed a jew as Treasury Secretary, which I, you know, I obviously don’t like that, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Mnuchin, I think it was. Former Goldman Sach’s dude, yeah.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. So, you’ve got this guy in there and you’ve got his son-in-law in there, who was like trying to get security clearance. He did tell that jew, Kushner, he can’t have any security clearance. But, you know, he’s in there and he was trying to stack the place with neo-con jews, like Bolton. Like these total, &#8230; Bolton is actually, &#8230; I thought he was a jew and I read he is not jewish, he’s actually 1/8th jewish. But anyway, he’s a full neo-con! And we did not want him in there! That’s nonsense! Some Goldman Sachs jew to bring this thing back. This beast back.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, I think that on some level he has to do this, so he doesn’t get assassinated. I mean that would be my honest answer. That, you know, on some level, these jews have so much power that he has to work with them on some level to keep him from getting assassinated. It’s similar to what Putin did in Russia. And I mean, Putin did make from — if you look at what happened to Russia from the 1990s to right now — I mean, Putin has made Russia great again. Like literally! That has happened. He made it from, you know, this thing that was just collapsing, everything was breaking apart, girls were out, you know, just prostitutes on the street for five dollars to get some bread, or vodka, in the 90s when all hell was breaking loose — and taken that situation and made a pretty stable global superpower!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, there’s still a lot of poverty in Russia, but it’s still a lot better than it was so, you know. And he had to work with the jews — he still does have to, to a certain degree, but he put a bunch of them in prison and a bunch of them fled the country because of their crimes and he was going to arrest them and they fled. You know, so you had a kind of balance there, which is not — I mean, it’s not ideal. But, you know, these jews have an incredible amount of power and so, I mean, to say that through the voting process at least, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, you could have some kind of military coup and get rid of them, but, I mean, we’re actually working within the system like Donald Trump is doing. You can’t just totally push them out immediately. And I don’t even know if he wants to. But, basically, I will always come back to, every single jewish agenda Donald Trump is in direct opposition to — like up and down, up and down the line from, you know, immigration to the attacks on the society and Christianity. And just the attacks on the working class and then moving the globalist policies and the internationalism taking care of the world, all these wars in the Middle East. I mean it is just down the line of the whole jewish agenda, you have Donald Trump standing in opposition to.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The one thing he does say, as you mentioned, is that he supports Israel. Well, OK, what does that have to do with anything? Israel, the reason that Israel affects the United States, is one thing; we give them a lot of money! But that’s the small issue. The big issue is that we have to go fight these wars, because they’re controlling our government and running our foreign policy and telling us that it’s somehow in our interest to nuke Iran, or invade, you know, attack Libya and start a terrorist revolution in Libya, or Syria. You know, the invasion of Iraq — all these wars that jews who were, you know, — a lot of these people were Israeli jews! I mean, Richard Perle who drew up this plan, the original plan, that became the Iraq war manifesto, that was part of the Bush government with all these jews in there. I mean he was working for the Israeli government when he came up with this idea to topple all these dictators.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, the quote, unquote, “<em>dictators</em>”, I mean they’re basically what I see is that they’re just kings — I mean, Arabia has had this, for like, ever. They’ve had these monarchy systems and that’s — they just have to kind of change the names, that’s it, that’s what they want. It’s basically what, I mean, Gaddafi effectively was the king of Libya. And the same could be said for Saddam and Assad. I mean, this is what these people like. And it’s the only way to keep them from going full monkey crazy, where they just go running around the desert chopping people’s heads off and drowning people in cages, <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> throwing people off buildings! ISIS is just like, “<em>Wow!</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s why you need to have the “<em>strong man leader</em>”, because this is what they will revert to, like immediately!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, even if you look at the history, this is the kind of stuff they were doing when Muhammad originally, you know, showed up in Arabia and tried to unify these tribal groups — did unify these tribal groups and, I mean, it’s an interesting history. But these people are savages! That’s why they have to dress their women up in bags like that, because they’re just like — their women themselves are wanton. I mean, these people would just be — that’s why they’re so inbred — they don’t even know who they’re having sex with!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah, that is a problem. That is a huge problem. There is a Danish researcher that details some of that and apparently inbreeding was a tremendous problem because there’s so much, they’re so much more tribal, you know. And it comes from a kind of, the Bedouin tribes in the Arabian Peninsula that was just like, you know, lingering around and that’s kind of still — I guess a mentality that’s still there within the Arabs, you know.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, especially the — like Emirate type Arabs — I mean, these people are stupid and they have a lot of money, &#8230; You know, if you’re ever around them — most people are not around — you see them in New York, you see them in London, obviously in Dubai, but most people, probably listeners, have never been to either of those three cities. But, you know, you look at these people’s faces and they have something wrong with them. They look like monsters, like mutants! And they’re the worst of the Arabs.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I know a guy who actually worked as a personal trainer for one of the princes — well he actually said, — you know, there’s these royal families in Saudi Arabia and there’s a lot of them and he, you know, he knew some of these people. <span style="color: #008000;">[He]</span> was in there, and close to them in their operations and he said, “<i>These are the stupidest people that you will ever meet in your life!”</i> I mean, these people are like, really, really, stupid! Like they can’t really read and this is what the US Government set them — well, I mean, the Western, the West you could say, well ZOG, set them up as a proxy government there for this oil and, you know, I mean is it, the Saudi regime serves as a proxy jew government to keep the Arabs in line.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, the Saudi Arabian royal family and the jew Israel government agree on absolutely everything. I mean, they’re both pro-ISIS, they’re both pro-terrorism and pro this monkey insanity! So yeah, I mean, I’m going off on a bit of a tangent here, but the strongman system, the bottom line of that whole thing as you said — the strongman system is necessary to keep these people in line in Arabia. And the neo-cons knew that this madness would happen. Which is — it’s ultimately responsible for all this terrorism and, &#8230; Well, and the, quote, unquote “<em>refugee crisis</em>” but, you know, I mean sort of with the refugee gee crisis. Because you can just stop these people from coming in. It’s not like there’s like no way, you know, when they say that, like there is no way to stop them!<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> All you have to do is turn the boats around! You send them<span style="color: #008000;"> [back]</span> and if they land you say, “<em>OK, well, we’re taking you back.</em>” I mean, you don’t even have to kill them! You could just sink their boats — I mean, who cares?</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> You got to send a message, right? That’s the point. That’s what you’re saying with this idea of a strong dictatorial leader that like keeps these people in check. I mean look at the Saudi prince, right? I mean, he is jet-setting around, you know. He was in Beverly Hills, this is back in 2015. He was basically assaulting and raping at least, I think it was, at least three women — I think it might have been more, even five — when he was at a party in a Beverly Hills mansion. And he got off, scot free! He could just basically leave the US, no problem whatsoever. And he was like, keeping them captive and stuff like that and he had, like sex drugs fueled parties and shit like that. These are crazy people, you know, and they’re allowed to run free and do whatever the heck they want.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, in Western countries they have diplomatic immunity. This woman, this princess in Paris. She was in Paris and she kidnapped — I mean she had a decorator, interior decorator, in her apartment in Paris. I forget the district. I don’t know, I mean, they were in one of the really rich districts in Paris. And he was taken — he was doing interior decorating and he was taking pictures with his phone and these people are so stupid, she thought it was some kind of, like, intelligence conspiracy that he was taking pictures of, you know, her apartment. Like it was some kind of — like it was a conspiracy against her. And she had the security put a gun to his head and did like a femdom-type thing, where he had to lick her toes! I mean, this is like, weird! I mean, these people are savages and they’re wanton savages! I mean, what kind of pervert — this woman is 40ing something years old and is having this man lick her toes. And then she fled and, I don’t know, she had diplomatic immunity. They said they might prosecute the bodyguard, but this, I mean, these people are weird!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> It’s bizarre, absolutely bizarre! But this, you know, these are regions and people that have gotten rich off of the West. If it wasn’t for us and our, you know, oil need and everything else, they would be in a very different situation still, and…</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">They were living in caves! <span style="color: #008000;">[Henrik laughing]</span> I mean, they were literally living in caves! And we went in there and give them all this money and all that! I mean, look at Dubai, or Abu Dhabi, any of these places, and it’s all — I’ve actually been to both these cities and it’s all of German built, everything there is built by Germans.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> They love their Mercedes and, you know, gold and bling — and it’s amazing, you know, &#8230;<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">But they’re like children, these people! Yeah! This money is just given to them. There are always people saying, “<i>Oh yeah, I’m doing, you know, I’m doing trading, I’m doing, &#8230; We’ve got a business of trade and imports and exports, I got a company, IT, we’re, &#8230;</i>”<i> </i>You’re not doing anything! The government just gives out money to these people for the oil. And they’re just like children pretending to be adults in these buildings that are all built by Germans, with all these products that all come from White Western countries. And, you know… There is no reason to do this. If we needed oil, we should have set up colonies in these countries and taken the oil, which, you know, probably — that even, wasn’t even necessary.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> They weren’t doing anything with it. They were sitting on it, right? They weren’t using any of this and I think that’s one of the problems when you don’t develop, you don’t go through any of the development yourself. You just basically are handed billions and all they know how to do is to turn everything into Disneyland for them, you know?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah! It’s totally Disneyland, just all hookers and race cars and, <span style="color: #008000;">[Henrik laughing]</span> you know, like store — these malls.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, it’s a disgusting decadent thing! These Arabs are absolutely disgusting!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Aw, man! &#8230;<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> It’s amazing! Well, just switching back a little bit to what we were talking about earlier and hopefully, of course, Trump can he actually do something — I think he spoke about that. We should have taken it, you know, regarding Iraq — he said, we should have taken the oil and just have gotten out! And he’s right.<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> Hopefully he can follow suit and do some of that kind of stuff, but…</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Look, all you would have to do is occupy the oil production facilities and they are not going to do anything. I mean, you know, I mean we’re going to go and take it — you can you can leave a military force there and, you know, have a military occupation of the country and take the oil. I mean, you know, this is very easy to do and it would be profitable for the United States to do it. So that’s what he said, that after, we never should have went in, but after we went in we should have stayed and kept the oil and occupy the oil fields and ship the oil back to, you know, our country.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Of course. We have to pay for everything and now they don’t get anything. It’s amazing. It’s bankrupting the United States. <span style="color: #008000;">[Andrew laughing]</span> Billions… trillions! Isn’t that the war? &#8230; Ah, &#8230; God!<span style="color: #008000;"> [Andrew laughing]</span></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Trillions! [laughing] Four trillion dollars to bring freedom and democracy to Iraq!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> And look at how that work out! Look at that! And then we got ISIS, and then because of that we’ve gotten the migration crisis. I mean, I can’t help to see that’s not an accident any of this. I mean, when you have Israeli hospitals aiding these ISIS generals, or whatever they’re called, you know. Making sure that they’re up and back and at it again and fighting — and they never attack Israel. And, I mean, there’s like, there’s a whole lot of stuff going on behind the scenes here that most people are just not aware of at all, you know?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I know. Turkey got caught shipping ISIS oil to Israel. This stuff is known. Israel invited a film crew, to film them giving medical aid to, in Golan Heights, to ISIS terrorists. They invited the film crew there and, you know, it was on the <strong><em>Daily Mail</em></strong>. You know, so they’re not even, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:15]</strong></span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> They’re not even hiding it!</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">No! And they said it was for humanitarian reasons! We got to help them, they’re injured. Israel, these baby killers are like, “<em>Well, we got help these terrorists because it’s sad they got shot when they were fighting a terrorist war.</em>” No, they’ve been sort of coy about their desire to — I mean Netanyahu himself has been — Israel as a country hasn’t so much about their desire to overthrow Assad, but yeah, no. I mean, that operation — I mean, this is another Trump effect. Before he’s even in office, they’re — I mean, they’re going to take back Aleppo and it’s going to be the end of the Syrian, quote, unquote, “<em>civil war</em>”. Which is actually a terrorist proxy war by the West against Assad, who is a popular elected leader.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> A nationalist leader, yeah? That’s amazing. They had some speakers actually at the — was an “<b><i>Alliance for Peace and Freedom</i></b>”, the European co-nationalist umbrella branch in the European Union — they had a conference in Rome recently and they actually had a speaker there from Syria, kind of addressing some of these issues. And there are — some of them are very aware, very on the ball, they know kind of how the <strong>New<span style="color: #008000;"> [Jew]</span> World Order</strong>, how that operates and the fact that they turned Syria into one of their enemies. You know, to topple them and everything else. There are many there that are actually clued in. I just wish most of them didn’t have to come to Europe, of course, that is a problem. But, Andrew, just switching gears a little bit — and just kind of heading right into a different direction here for a little bit.</p>
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<p>Give us your opinion on the future of the Alt-Right, post NPI and everything that occurred during the week and ended in this so-called controversy after these salutes and everything. What was your take on this?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, this has been, I mean, there’s virtually no downside to it, in my view. I mean, this has been a fantastic thing all around! And I, you know, I salute, hail Richard Spencer for this, you know, this thing that he did — this was just beautiful.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, the first thing is we got all of this publicity, which, as Donald Trump himself said in <b><i>The Art of The Deal</i></b>, you know, “<i>Good publicity is better than bad publicity.</i>”<i> </i>But there’s — now he said, “<i>But bad publicity is better than no publicity.</i>”<i> </i>So, you know, and it wasn’t really even bad publicity, you know. People, young people who are our target audience, you know, people — teenagers. And that’s what I always say, that I’m basically targeting people under 30, even under 20! <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> You know! A lot of people, I see them on my forum, I’ve done polls on the ages. It’s kind of hard to gauge this, but there are a lot of kids in high school that read <b><i>The Daily Stormer</i></b>. And that’s sort of, you know, a lot of where it’s geared to, which is why some older people don’t necessarily understand it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I think that, you know, I mean it’s always about the kids, because that’s the future. If you’re thinking about any kind of long term political movement, which is what I’m thinking in terms of. I think everybody needs to be thinking in those terms. You want to be going for the youngest possible group, because they’re the ones with the energy and they’re the easiest ones to get their minds changed, you know, get them thinking. Once somebody solidified in some kind of stupid nonsense, once they locked their brain on that, it’s very hard to switch out of it. I mean people do, you know, I mean, this type of information was not available when I was a teenager — at least not openly, easy access available. So, you know, I had to switch my own thinking as an adult, but, I mean a lot of people aren’t going be able to do that. It’s going to be very difficult for them. So you always want to target the young and I think that we’re doing that and I think that display at NPI, that they flashed all over TV — this is not something that young people are going to be like, “<i>Oh, my god, it’s so evil because six million lampshades!”</i> You know, I mean, this is where young people’s heads are.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You see all throughout that the election there were kids, they were saying it was hate speech, they were saying, “<em>Build a wall!</em>” and, you know, when sports teams, like high-school football teams were playing each other, if one team was black, or minority Mexican, they’d start chanting, they’d go, White team would start chanting, “<i>Donald Trump!”</i> I mean the kids, they’ve grown up in this multicultural hell, where they’re just treated as not even second class! I mean, we’ve got all these different classes now. The White kids, especially the White male is like the fourth our fifth class citizen in the hierarchy of our society. So, you have people — young people are very open to this and I don’t think they have all the associations of, you know, the Holocaust, that, particularly baby boomers have, that this is like, “<i>Oh, my God! The poor jews!”</i></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:27]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So yeah, I don’t think that the salute was negative at all! I mean, it’s like, I mean, these people cucking and saying, “<i>Oh my God, it’s over!”</i> I said, all these people complaining, [laughing] I said they’re all like saying, “<em>This is the end of Trump’s campaign!</em>” You know, I mean, he’s already elected. But their whole argument is like the same thing. I mean, Donald Trump did the Sieg Heil salute at rallies. So, he said it was a pledge, but I mean everybody’s throwing up their straight arm, right arm, you know. He did this and they made a whole media thing of it and then it went away. And the same thing with this. So, you know, I don’t think that there’s anything negative about that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the other thing is this video — you did this great video showing these people cucking, from Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson and Mike Cernovich, cucking out on this and saying, “<em>Oh my God, this is, &#8230;!</em>” and calling people, FBI, which, I’m so sick of this — this is the stupidest thing — this is not like a little baby game where you can just call people Federal informants or Federal agents, based on nothing, because they something you disagree with. And bring up Hal Turner! There’s no proof! Hal Turner was posting — I mean, people can look this up, this is all, you can get the old news articles — Hal Turner was posting the home addresses of Federal judges and saying, “<em>Go assassinate these people!</em>” And he was doing it for four years before he was eventually arrested. And what I think was, he was hacked by <strong>4chan</strong>, actually. You know, the effect in history, will go down in history of 4chan and the amount of influence they have on our modern society is incredible. Sort of the hive mind of the Internet, 4chan.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">No, <strong>4chan</strong> hacked his e-mails and saw communications with Federal agents, that he was working as an informant sending them information. They did that in 2008 and he was arrested in 2009 for doing something that he’d been doing for years. Which is calling people, Federal judges and officials, to be assassinated. So, you know, I mean these people bring up Hal Turner and say, “<em>Well, anybody who talks about race is just like Hal Turner and, &#8230;</em>&#8220;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> It’s retarded, you know!</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, it’s just total nonsense. And it shows how non-serious these people are, because a serious person does not throw around the accusation that people are Federal agents. You know, I have suspicions about certain people on the internet and I’ll say to myself or, you know, privately I’ll say, you know, these people could be, you know, as could be some suspicious going on there. But I would never, ever, go out on the Internet and publicly say, “<i>Well, I know that these people are Federal agents</i>”, because they’re saying something that, you know, is suspicious to me. You know, this is not — these are not serious people. That was a little bit shocking to have Cernovich and Paul Joseph Watson come and just say, “<i>Well, this is FBI operation.</i>”</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Let me just comment on that quickly. He thought that, you know, basically Richard Spencer was involved in like, into some kind of sting operation, or even embezzlement, or something, to drag people into some violent acts, or something? Just for the sake of accuracy and truth, it was like, it was only very few people that did it. Richard just lifted a glass and even to have him held responsible for something like that, is in itself retarded. I mean, it was fun! I mean, as you said, we went over this in the video, we’ve kind of beaten that up to death, to be honest. But it’s like, you know, just for those who didn’t see it, or, you know, didn’t hear any of that — what they do is that they run with the mainstream media version of events and yet they’re sitting there being edgy and like talking down to the mainstream media. It’s pathetic! It’s useless!</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, it’s also like totally disingenuous bullshit! I don’t think that these people actually believe that Richard Spencer is an FBI agent. Cernovich went on and said like, “<i>These people, you’re all going to prison and you’re going to go to prison if you’re involved with these people because the media said they’re Nazis.</i>”<i> </i>I mean, he did this stream where he said this, “<i>You’re all going to prison.</i>”<i> </i>And this is to make people afraid, because the bottom line is they understand that this is what the direction that everything is going in.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And their audience will eventually, or quickly, probably, end up in our camp and they want to hold on to their audience. Because, you know, I mean, he’s got “<b><i>Guerrilla Mindset</i></b>” to sell [his book]. Watson’s got, “<b><i>Super-male Vitality</i></b>” and “<b><i>Brain Force</i></b>”, [to sell] you know, “<i>You need these products, goyim!”</i> So, this is business maneuvering, that they want to keep their audience and so they’re attacking him and making people afraid that if they even go to these websites you could be arrested! They will round you up because of Hal Turner! So I mean, it’s just bullshit and they don’t actually believe that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">When somebody says that, there’s almost no chance, unless they’re paranoid nutjobs, they actually believe that. Not that there aren’t, you know, presumably Feds out there — people just say it because like, “<i>He said something I don’t agree with, so he’s a Fed</i>.” It’s usually disingenuous.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah. Kind of retarded. One of the points he made, which I appreciate, which I like there is this idea to, about — about counterculture. About a true kind of rebellion against the mainstream system, right? And the fact that many young people, I would assume, I mean it’s difficult because many of the counterculture movements and, revolutionary movements and so on that we’ve had, have been very contrived. You know, very owned by various interests — it’s also a way, of course, our very own culture has been managed to be turned on it’s head, right? As you said, they went for the kids in the 60s and they turned their mind against their own parents, against their own tradition and culture and all that kind of stuff. So I understand that there’s reason to be wary of that. But at the same time, that culture was kind of — it was also — it became popularized — it was kind of pushed in a different way, it was a top down one primarily.</p>
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<p>In this case, I think we’re seeing something that truly the system itself is very afraid of. It is a true kind of expression of a counterculture, just, “<em>We don’t give a crap about any of this!</em>” And at that moment, I would figure that some of these hopefully rebellious young spirits out there and teenagers and, you know, even those that are a little bit older, they would kind of enjoy that to a certain extent. That they would be attracted to the very nature of the reaction of the mainstream, in a way. Right?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. No, absolutely. This is what I’ve said. I mean, they’re presenting this as the ultimate, you know, cool hip thing. It is what that whole media storm around the NPI salute is. That this is like, you know, it’s almost like you think they were doing it on purpose, to make it seem cool?</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Ah oh! Don’t spread that conspiracy now!<span style="color: #008000;"> [both laughing]</span></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I know, but they have no idea — they have no idea what’s going on and they think they can just keep talking about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” and that they’re victims and everybody is against them, that everybody wants to hurt them and they never did anything wrong to anybody. That they can just keep saying that, over and over again, the goyim will just keep going along with it. When what they’re actually doing is sowing the image of the Alt-Right as a revolutionary and cool, you know, hip. This is what, I mean it is! Really, I mean it is! There’s no fun in anything.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">This humorless march to oblivion that the Left has engaged in is just — I mean, you know, I mean who wants to be involved in something that has no humor, whatsoever? To have that, there’s no fun allowed? I mean, this whole thing with these “<em>safe spaces</em>” and these whining women and the blacks talking about, you know, they’re so oppressed and there’s all these people against them. I mean, it’s just — it never ends of the whining, this noise coming from these people.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t think, I mean, nobody is attracted to that, it’s just imploding in on itself. And this is the hip thing now! I mean, you know, this is where the cool kids are!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:33]</strong></span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> We’ve got to run with that, we’re going to kind of — I mean, I know it’s kind of, yes, you know, to some people who feel like going out on that, on an edge and risking something, or to the brim of whatever. But, I mean, to certain extent, what else is there at this point? I mean, our civilization, our world, our thinking is at this point so screwed up, that the only thing you can do is to push this as far as you can, in a way. Which is meant to just kind of blow the lid off the whole thing. Of basically trying to both go in an opposite direction to it, but also kind of just — ultimately we’re just making fun of it and not showing any respect, if you will, for the system, for the structure as it’s been set up. And to kind of halfway through, start to kind of back-peddle, or feel that, “<i>Oh my God, no! Maybe we went too far at this point!”</i></p>
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<p>I can understand, maybe, as you said, why some older people feel that way, or they feel like comfortable for them, or something. But in terms of the younger people that they are concerned. For them, this is, I hope that they perceive this as being just hilarious, on so many levels and something which truly is actually breaking those, the shackles of everything that’s politically correct! Everything that we’re not supposed to do, or talk about, or say, or think, or anything like that! And I think, just to kind of almost go over the top on that is something that will liberate people, in a way. It’s always about trailblazing, right? To push the boundaries so far that people feel that there is like a room behind them to a certain extent, like, “<i>Oh!”</i></p>
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<p>I mean, that’s how they changed our societies, right? They made things a little bit more extreme, a little bit more extreme, and eventually when they, you know, they were two steps forward, one step back, basically. So by the time they took one step back, “<i>Eh, it didn’t seem so bad</i>”, you know, now. First it was like shocking to have gay characters on TV, right? Now they’re like pushing what, pedophiles, or something? And so now trannies even doesn’t look that bad. I mean, there’s all these layers to it and we have to push back on that, that’s what I’m saying.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, the death spiral! But no, I mean, Naziism is really like, “<i>prepackaged revolutionary imagery</i>” because the jews that run the society have put so much — they’ve spent so much energy building this Naziism up as the ultimate opposite of everything that they’re promoting. Right? I mean, they put all of this energy [in it]. So if you decide you hate this system, then the automatic thing is like, “<i>What about these Nazis?”</i></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, so you have this revolutionary imagery already created, prepackaged, you know, ready made of the Nazis. And when you present that in like, a sort of a tongue-in-cheek way — that I think happened at NPI, and what I, you know, try to do by mixing, you know, pictures of Hitler with anime and so on —<span style="color: #008000;"> [both laughing]</span> you know, Pepe. I mean, you know, you’ve found something that’s very powerful, because they have put all this basically spiritual energy into this symbol of Hitler and the Nazis. So you can throw that back at them and it’s extremely powerful, and, you know, I mean we harness that.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> I wonder if they’ve thought about this, Andrew? I mean because it’s almost like, that the weapon itself that they’ve used against us is also going to be potentially a thing that we can use to liberate ourselves with.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">This is a judo maneuver! Yeah, and that’s what I’ve said with these cowards who want to talk about, “<i>Well, there can be no Nazi! The Nazis are not successful and there’s been no successful Nazi!”</i></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The situation we’re in — we have one example of people who dealt with this situation successfully! There’s only one guy who ever did it successfully! That’s the bottom line and everybody kind of knows that, on some kind of, you know, on a primitive, on a primal level everyone is sort of aware of that. You know, just even with the way the jews have framed the Nazis. You have that, you have that right there.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s no way to get around it. There’s no way to get around the Nazi issue, it’s stupid to try it! Because I mean there is this meme, which I think is basically true, that they’ll call you Nazis, no matter what. But at the same time, there’s the meme of whatever you’re saying is basically going to be in the same ballpark as Naziism. <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> Or you have to change your whole ideology, because, I mean, you have Naziism on one side and jewish international globalism on the other side, OK. So, whatever you’re saying it’s going to be a whole lot closer to Naziism that it’s going to be to jewish international globalism — unless you just want to be a cuck and change your beliefs, you know, like Jared Taylor. It disgusted me how he threw Richard Spencer under the bus for the jews!* </span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">*<span style="color: #008000;"> [Published on Nov 27, 2016</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">Jared Taylor on the 2016 NPI conference controversy: “<em>I was as shocked as anyone by all of that. I was very surprised. I was very saddened by it. I think it’s a terrible pity.</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">Jared Taylor, editor of <strong><em>American Renaissance</em></strong> (AMREN), speaks to Kristoffer Ronneberg from <strong><em>Aftenposten</em></strong> (Norway’s largest printed newspaper) and is asked about Richard Spencer and the recent NPI conference.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Original:</span></strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">https://soundcloud.com/ristofferonneberged jared-taylor</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">A transcript of his remarks at about the 50 minute mark into the interview on the NPI conference:</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>I was as shocked as anyone by all of that. The Alt-Right is a very broad movement, Apparently – well, I have always known that there were at least anonymous Twitter accounts that are openly Nazi and anti-Semitic. But I did not think that Richard Spencer was that sort of person. I was not there that evening. I think having some of this attitude of jews as an enemy – that’s not my position at all. <strong>I think jews can very much be white people – men of the West – and so I was shocked by these images that we’ve seen</strong>.</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Question: What is your relationship to Spencer?</span></strong></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>I have known him for some years but he has his organisation and I have mine. I’ve invited him to speak at some of my conferences. He has definitely moved over the years I think. And he has invited me to speak at some of his conferences but we have completely separate organisations. I was very surprised. I was very saddened by it. I think it’s a terrible, &#8230; A terrible pity. I don’t endorse any form of National Socialism. I think that’s a completely inappropriate and crazy model for the United States.</em>”]</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> I didn’t, I didn’t actually see that yet. If that was, I have to look into that. But it’s, of course, it’s sad. I mean, I think it’s always very detrimental when these things happen and there’s a lot of — there’s schisms and things like this and — in a way without getting into the details of it to kind of pour salt in the wounds further, I think also one of the reasons why some of this happens is that it’s birth pangs! That’s kind of how I see it. In a growth aspect, you have cell division and that’s kind of what we’re seeing. The Alt-Right has never been super, you know, centralized and organized, it’s all these different cells that are doing, in a way, kind of their own thing, but many push in the same direction, or similar direction. We agree on many things, but maybe not on everything all the time, 100% and they’re kind of, there’s been a benefit to that, to a certain extent and I just hope that, you know, people kind of, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:17]</strong></span></p>
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<p>I mean, let’s think about. I mean, in two weeks from now, I bet you, people, like, aren’t going to remember this, you know? The attention span is super short, people don’t care, it will be another controversy in — maybe just tomorrow, even, you know? And then that will be it. And as you said, the name has gotten out, the name recognition has increased and, you know, however, we view that there’s no such thing is as bad publicity. That’s what it boils down to, I think.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">No, and no, &#8230; I mean, &#8230; So, what I was going to say is that, it’s good! One of the consequences of this “<em>Hailgate</em>”, whatever they’re calling it, “<em>Salutegate</em>”, is that these people, these cucks! I read a comment and I’ve said this, actually on a couple of shows on my website on one side, but it’s the greatest comment — I saw somebody comment on YouTube, where somebody whining about Richard Spencer. Somebody said, “<em>Richard Spencer hit the gas and a bunch of cucks fell out of the back of the truck!</em>”<span style="color: #008000;"> [both laughing]</span></span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> That was funny! Yeah, it’s a good take, on it, yeah, yup.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">So yeah, I know… I mean, Richard Spencer, because I’m glad that, you know, Cernovich and Watson are gone now — because, you know, I was flipping out for so long about this Milo. I know, you know, Lana was making videos about Milo. And how he was trying, like, to usurp us, and steal our memes, and take our brand, and say that it was about cultural libertarianism, and he’s up there saying, “<em>Praise Kek!</em>” And, you know, all of our memes he’s trying to use and then say, “<i>Well, but it’s actually, it’s about defending Israel!”</i> I mean, he got up there and said this. And it’s not really about race, it’s about Western supremacy, Western culture and all races working together.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, so I mean, that’s gone! This guy disappeared! Probably, you know, whatever happened to him, he’s gone and now we have these other guys gone. I mean, Jared Taylor, whatever! I mean, he can go. This guy, I mean, you know, what is he, &#8230; He’s done good work. I don’t want to insult Jared Taylor, you know, he’s been around a long time, whatever, whatever. But he’s gone! OK. Fine. Bye!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">At the same time, I talked to Richard Spencer the other night on phone. You know, I hadn’t got along with him, but I said, you know, I’m standing in solid solidarity with you on this and I will, I think we need to, you know, I had a real good conversation with Richard Spencer the other night. I said we need to, you know, bring — come together here, because we’ve got — we’ve got, now, we need to move into the next stage of this thing and you’ve asked that, however long ago. I keep going with these rambling answers to your questions, but — damn, I’ve high energy tonight, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, so the next phase. I mean, I think there is no such thing as being too ambitious. We need to be ready and ‘20, &#8217;24 to elect an actual Hitler! <span style="color: #008000;">[Henrik laughing]</span> Like a literal Hitler! Like somebody who is talking aggressively and openly about the jews!</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Trump has warmed them up to this concept, hasn’t he? <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I mean, we are warmed up. We’re already at a concept where we are “<i>people</i>” and there is an “<i>other</i>”. There are all of these others! The Mexicans are an “<i>other</i>”, the blacks are an “<i>other</i>”, the Muslims are an “<i>other</i>”. And you just have to say, there’s on more, one more I know of! Right there! That guy with the hook nose! Who’s controlling all your media and your banks and telling your boys to cut their penises off!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I mean, it’s very easy once you have the idea of the “<i>in-group</i>” and “<i>out-group</i>” to point to the jews as an “<i>out-group</i>” that needs to be removed from society!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I believe, you know, we have eight years now. I mean, presume I don’t think there really any chance — I mean, unless he dies, or gets assassinated, or something, I don’t think that he’s going to have trouble getting reelected.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> So the four years he’s going to be given now is going to be enough for people go like, “<i>This is awesome! Let’s do it again!”</i></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. And I mean he’s going to clean up these illegal immigrants so they won’t be able to vote next time around. You’re going to have just — I mean, because what he’s going to be able to do in the next four years as far as just materially, and as far as, like, the amount of money people are making and that they can work and can pay for their house? &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> I’m excited about this, I have to say. I was thinking about it the other day and was just like — I was filled with a positive, positive emotion, you know, like something, &#8230; You know, even just for the sake of that is going to be be fun to see this happening and things changing. And, of course, I hope he follows through, I hope there’s no, you know, issues along the way, or whatever, but I’m looking forward to it. This is going to be fun, you know?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. It feels fun! Like there’s an excitement in the air, like, you know, and I totally, &#8230; It’s electric! You know, I mean every time, you know, I just think about, “<i>Wow! Donald Trump is the President of the United States!”</i>&#8230;<span style="color: #008000;"> [both laughing]</span></span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> It’s bizarre! &#8230; It’s kind of like, in a way it’s kind of like a joke, in a way — and that’s what makes it so great, you know, what I mean? <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span></p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t think anybody really thought this was going to happen! And, it’s really a whole new world has opened up and, you know, but as far as what we need to do, we need to keep pushing it and we need to make it so this becomes about jews. I mean, everything I am all about — is JEWS!<span style="color: #008000;"> [both laughing]</span> So, you know, that needs to be the central issue, is dealing with these people and figure out a way to get rid of them!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I mean, get them to go to Israel, where ever they want to go, just so they’re not in our country, and, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Every people, they deserve their own country and it will be much better and more peaceful that way. Right?</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">You can talk about this nationalism for everybody, but it’s like they already have their own country, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Of course! That’s what I’m saying, it’s like you have that, go there now!</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Right! This is what these people — it’s about self-determination and, you know, nationalism for everybody and it’s like, well, I’m at a point of saying that is, because every other race has their own nations. They all do. We’re the only ones that don’t. And I guess the Tibetan Buddhists…<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> they don’t, or the — you know, I guess there’s a few small, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah, the Kurds, even the Yazidis, whatever, &#8230; I mean, we know that there’s tribal conflict and there is a lot of fighting, but, I got your point. I got your point.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I mean, overall, in general, everybody has their own country.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, yeah, I mean. And the other thing, I do think that we played a major role in the election. I don’t think it would have happened if it wasn’t for us. Because, I mean, because the memes, they were everywhere! Because they weren’t just, you know, the ones that we were creating and all the stuff with — I mean, the cartoons and so on, but then those fake ads for? What was it, your daughters? “<i>Send your daughters to die for Hillary</i>” There was a hashtag, &#8230; “<i>Daughters for, ..</i>”<i> </i>Do it for her? “<i>Draft our daughters!”</i> was the, &#8230; <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There were so many of these things that were all over the Internet. And the whole thing, &#8230; But the most important thing that the Alt-Right did for Donald Trump was make him cool! I mean, he already was cool! I mean, he’s a very easy guy to make into a meme. And everything he said basically, became a meme. But you know, the energy that we created online of this guy is like, “<i>The best guy ever!”</i></span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Yeah, it was a unified force! I mean, this was so interesting too that even people that seemingly didn’t agree, everyone rallied behind him, which shows what a leader can do. Right? It’s amazing.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I know, absolutely. I mean, this is what a leader — I mean, this is what people want. They want a guy who is like, “<i>Well, yeah, that guy is in charge.</i>”</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Who knows some shit., you know, and get things done.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s figures who, you see them and say, “<i>Well yeah, that guy’s in charge we should do whatever he says.</i>”<i> </i>So I mean… <span style="color: #008000;">[both laughing]</span> It’s a basic, like tribal thing. The guy there who just radiates an ability to deal with situations and you say, “<i>We’re just following that guy.</i>”<i> </i>And it feels good to say that about somebody, to call somebody a leader and say, “<i>I’m following this person.</i>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now that he actually is a president we’ve probably got the back off that a little bit at least, you know, our movement, to a certain degree.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Well there’s a simplicity that I think we’re lacking in life. We have like this, you know, convoluted — like, cycles — logical, you know, kind of mumbo jumbo level to everything. And it’s like, you know, everything is subjective and there’s no real reality, or real truth. There’s no — we don’t know, we have to debate these issues, or whatever, and it’s just like, here is something which is just kind of straight forward finally, you know? I think people lack that.</p>
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<p>They just want that like base drive, as you said before — kind of the same issues with the fact that, you know, women have primordial drives that needs to be fulfilled, otherwise weird things happen with them. <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> Those issues I think are going to start coming back into the kind of the situation. But Andrew before we, you know, kind of wrap things up here for this time. What else do you think we should do in terms of — you said back off a little bit. Explain that a little bit more, what you mean by that.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well I mean, we’re going to have to be critical of Trump now that he’s in office, I think. You know, I mean we can’t — you know, it’s a hard thing for me, coming up with the narrative around him, but I think we do have to be just not 100% behind everything that he does and make sure that we can push him as far as we’re able to, to do all these things we want him to do. I think on a lot of these issues he’s pretty much lined up with us, anyway. So, you know, we’re not going to have to, like, outright attack him, but we do need to be aware and critical of decisions he’s making. You know, I’m not, I don’t have a problem calling out with this jew that he appointed to the Treasury Secretary. You know, I mean, it’s not surprising — to me especially — that he would appoint a jew to the Treasury Secretary. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Especially, you know, I think he does feel like he has to have some jews involved, just for his own safety.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But yeah, I mean, we can be critical of him, but I think we need to be critical of him in this, in the Alt-Right. I think we do, because we, &#8230; He’s not the end goal, we’re pushing for something that’s pretty far beyond what he’s offering. You know, I don’t know how far beyond if he’s really going to, like, deport all Muslims, you know.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I mean, our end goal is, you know, a White nation — White countries for White people. And we just got to keep pushing for that, and as much as he lines up with that agenda — which he does in a lot of ways as far as — especially as far as the early stages — building the wall, getting rid of the Mexican, getting rid of the Muslims and so on. You know, I mean this is going very much in the right direction. But we can’t forget that our goal is something beyond that.</span></p>
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<p><b>Henrik:</b> Very good! Well, <b>dailystormer.com</b> is the website. Support Andrew with bitcoin if you can. Thanks for coming up today, Andrew. A lot of fun having you here. Great to talk and spend some more time with you and sharing out some of these ideas. We should definitely do it again in the future. In the meantime, of course, keep up the good work and thanks once again for coming on the show with us.</p>
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<p><b>Andrew: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Thank you!</span></p>
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<p>So stay tuned for that and then on the following Tuesday 6th that we’re going to live stream the talk that Richard Spencer is doing at Texas A&amp;M. Lot of buzz around out there — that might be fun for you to see. So definitely stay tuned to the websites for that. We’ll have more at <strong>redice.tv/live</strong> and <strong>redicemembers.com/live</strong>.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much for listening. Ladies and gentlemen have a great rest of your day where ever you are. We will see you soon. Take care!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; [In these two latest videos Ramzpaul explains why he has dropped his support for the Alt-Right “label” after Richard Spencer failed to disavow the movement’s “Nazi” element following the NPI Conference, where some attendees gave “sieg heils” when &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2016/11/30/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-and-sieg-heils-transcripts/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[In these two latest videos Ramzpaul explains why he has dropped his support for the Alt-Right “<i>label</i>” after <b>Richard Spencer</b> failed to disavow the movement’s “<i>Nazi</i>” element following the <b>NPI Conference</b>, where some attendees gave “<i>sieg heils</i>” when Spencer raised his glass and declared loudly, “<i>Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail Victory!</i>”  </span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Although Ramzpaul makes many good points on some side issues I think he’s making a mountain out of a molehill out of this whole incident by declaring the Alt-Right’s “<i>brand</i>” toxic because of it.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">More seriously though, is Ramzpaul’s belief that the website, “<b><i>The Daily Stormer</i></b>” which has recently claimed to be Alt-Right, is in fact fake opposition, funded by the <b>ADL</b>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">But then in that case, what about <b><i>Amren</i></b>, which Ramzpaul does support, and its leader, <b>Jared Taylor</b>, who attended the conference and is <b>openly pro-jew</b>? The very people whose organizations are behind our on-going destruction! Is <b><i>Amren</i></b> also fake opposition, funded by the <b>ADL, </b>Ramzpaul? —  KATANA]</span></p>
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<p>Published on Nov 23, 2016</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Donald Trump disavows the Alt Right after Roman salutes are featured at the NPI conference.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">After NPI&#8217;s Roman Salutes,  President elect Trump was forced to disavow the Alt Right. Most normal people can support the Alt Right ideas of self-determination, protection of borders, good trade deals, America First, etc. But normal people can&#8217;t support anything that is associated with Nazism.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">In my discussions with Brietbart I explained the tension between the Alt Right versus the 14/88 crowd. In general, Breitbart was sympathetic to the ideas of the Alt Right as I described them.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">However, they obviously did not support the 14/88 notion of the Alt Right.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Eventually, the 14/88 crowd won this battle once Richard Spencer was associated with Nazism. Of course, I don&#8217;t think Richard is a Nazi. But it does not matter at this point. Whenever the Alt Right is discussed in the media, they will show the Roman Salute clip over and over. And as Richard is the self proclaimed leader of the Alt Right, the brand is now impossible to rehabilitate.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">But it really doesn&#8217;t matter at this point. The Alt Right was a phenomenon that helped launch Trump into the White House. Now that he has been elected, there is no need for the &#8220;<i>alternative</i>&#8221; label. We are now the Trump Right.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.returnofkings.com/76454/what-is-the-alternative-right">http://www.returnofkings.com/76454/what-is-the-alternative-right</a></p>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Alt-Right — RIP</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">TRANSCRIPT</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align:center;">[5:37]</p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#008000;"> </span></h3>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Hey guys. First of all I’m still in the process of moving back home. I don’t know my final location, but, so I don’t have my camera equipment. But I thought I had to discuss this whole thing that blew-up with Richard Spencer and the NPI and the Alt-Right. And, first of all what was reported was outrageous. Because supposedly Richard said that he asked the question, “<i>Are Jews even human?</i>” He didn’t ask that and in his speech he said, “<i>Are Republican strategists even human?</i>”. It was a joke! He wasn’t talking about Jews. So, CNN had lied there. And there’s supposedly the, you know, the Roman salute that happened. All Richard did was he had a glass and did a toast, “<i>Hail Trump!</i>” at the end. Big deal! We say “<i>Hail To the Chief</i>” for the president. It shouldn’t be that big of an issue. But unfortunately, we have some people that intentionally got up and did the Roman salute, a couple times, I guess there before and they did that and tweeted it.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2442-richard-spencer-raising-his-glass.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12583 aligncenter" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2442-richard-spencer-raising-his-glass.jpg?w=500" alt="ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2442-richard-spencer-raising-his-glass" width="500" height="337" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] Richard Spencer raising his glass while announcing, “<i>Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail Victory!</i>” at the NPI Conference 2016.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And yeah, at that point, Donald Trump had to disavow the Alt-Right. Because, you can’t hang on to something that’s Nazi. You just can’t! Because Naziism, it was seventy years ago. It’s just a brand that doesn’t translate well. It scares people. And if you’re going to do a <i>seig heil</i>, it’s over! It’s really over! And so, the truth, it doesn’t really matter what happened with NPI and with Richard Spencer. It’s a perception. And whenever they think about the Alt-Right now, people are going to think about the Romans salute! [laughing] And I won’t even do it now otherwise they’ll use my image.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#008000;"><a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2439-audience-members-giving-nazi-salute.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12581 aligncenter" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2439-audience-members-giving-nazi-salute.jpg?w=500" alt="ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2439-audience-members-giving-nazi-salute" width="500" height="281" /></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] “<i>Hands up</i>” at the NPI Conference 2016.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And yeah, that’s not fair, but politics is not fair. So now the Alt-Right brand is damaged. It’s associated with Naziism. And normal Americans aren’t going to support that. Which is a shame, but it’s really OK, you know. Why am I saying it’s OK? For a period of time before Trump got elected, the Alt-Right really grew. And part of the reason — I’m a little of the reason, just hang on — I did an interview with Milo and I spoke to him briefly. He’d use a lot of my quotes with Breitbart when they talk about, “<i>What is the Alt-Right?</i>” And I did some also some articles for “<i>Return of the Kings</i>”, some videos. And I try to explain what the Alt-Right is. It’s not traditional conservatism, which is about low taxes and open borders, but it’s also not 14/88, about neo-Nazis and all that shit! It’s about having an identity. That all people, jews, White people, Chinese — we all have an identity and we all have the right to live and of self-determination. That’s a core.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">There’s other issues too with trade and so forth, but that was basically the core. It’s not like this Nazi hate ideology! And, you know, what? Most people can really get on to that. Most people are like:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Yeah, I’m tired of political correctness. If other groups have identity, why can’t we? Why can’t we all have nationalism?</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And it really resonates with people.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And it did with Breitbart. And I know, because Milo published it and Steve Bannon saw that. And that’s why Steve Bannon, Trump’s Chief of Staff now, was on board with the Alt-Right. Because it’s something you can defend! But what happened is, immediately the enemy primarily and I’ll say it, I’ve said this before. I think Daily Stormer, to be honest, is a fake opposition. I think is funded by the ADL. And I’m not going to get into debates, why. I think that, I really do. And initially this Daily Stormer, they were opposed to the Alt-Right. But when they saw that it was getting on, they changed their strategy. And I said “<i>they</i>”, because I don’t think it’s just Andrew Anglin [laughing] that is in charge of it. I’ve heard his interviews. I think there’s a whole group that works on that website. And they decided to repurpose it, or try to co-opt the Alt-Right, to say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey! The Alt-Right is all about Naziism, of 14/88</i>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And they were so good at that, they were basically able to say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey! 14/88 and Naziism, that is the core of the Alt-Right, and the rest of you are trying to co-opt what we’re doing!</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Which was nonsense. But that was their strategy. And, but there was a lot of tension there between it. But still the ones that looked at the Alt-Right is not being Naziism, but being [about] identity, about being nationalism, were able to win the day initially up to the election. Then right after the election, &#8230; Yeah, finally because of the Richard Spencer thing that blew apart, now it is associated with Naziism!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">But it’s OK! It doesn’t matter. It would be kind of like you’re playing a basketball game and you’re winning by two points, at the last second the guy shoots it, and it’s a three point shot. And you go, “<i>Oh no! We lost!</i>” But no, the game ended before the three pointer went in! And that’s kind of what happened.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">We kind of won. We won, we got Trump in! So that’s fine.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So, I no longer identify as Alt-Right, just because, there’s no way of rehabilitating that whole image of what the Alt-Right is. It’s, I mean, good for Daily Stormer, I guess. They got it associated with Nazism and they’ve kind of quit that now. They’re trying to associate <b>Republicanism</b> with Nazism! [laughing] That’s their new strategy. Good luck with that!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2446-daily-stormer-banner.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-large wp-image-12585 aligncenter" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2446-daily-stormer-banner.jpg?w=500" alt="ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2446-daily-stormer-banner" width="500" height="174" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] <b><i>The Daily Stormer</i></b>, “<i>America’s #1 Most-Trusted Republican News Source</i>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">That’s OK, because I want to look at the Alt-Right now instead of it just being the Right. There’s no need to have the “<i>Alt</i>” label anymore.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">We have Donald Trump. People like me that support borders, that support immigration controls, that are opposed to globalism and free trade, we have our man in office now. We don’t need to call ourselves, “<i>Alt-Right</i>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">So, I’ve given up the label, but I still support self-determination and nationalism for all! I’ll talk to you guys later.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Published on Nov 29, 2016</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">A response to Richard Spencer&#8217;s video addressed to me:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://youtu.be/zbQhie3ApyE">https://youtu.be/zbQhie3ApyE</a></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Richard Spencer created a video (see link above) that addressed me concerning many topics concerning the Alt Right. This is my video response to cover some of the common questions that people have raised that include:</p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">1. What is Nazism</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">2. Punching to the Right</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">3. Disavowing</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">4. Cucking</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">5. Brand identity</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:left;">6. Boundaries needed for a movement</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">From the list above, #6 is key. The idea that you can have a movement that has NO boundaries is insane. Yet, because some people have been fooled with the mantra “<i>never punch to the right</i>” and “<i>never disavow</i>” we now have the Alt Right brand associated with Hollywood Nazis. And as the mainstream media looks at Richard Spencer as the leader of the Alt Right, the fact that he won&#8217;t explicitly disavow Nazism is fatal to the movement.  The serious thinkers have been replaced with Hal Turner and Andrew Anglin types.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">I think Richard is intelligent and quite eloquent. But I fear his message will be muted and he will become the new David Duke for his generation &#8211; pulled out every 4 years by the media to try to discredit the politician he endorses.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">I recommend that Spencer should explicitly disavow that the Alt Right has any connection with Nazism. If he refuses to do so, the Alt Right brand will remain toxic and attract only the kook element.</p>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">The Alt-Right and Boundaries</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><b> </b>[11:42 min]</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">All right. This is going to be my last video about the “<i>Richard Spencer, sieg heil</i>” case.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">But I want to do some clarification. And is going to be a little bit more in depth, because there’s a lot of questions about, you know, what is a Nazi, is it National Socialism, is it Hitler, is something new? What’s a Hollywood Nazi? And there’s a lot of ideas like:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey dude, you can never punch right! Never punch right!</i>” or, “<i>Never disavow, don’t disavow! The left doesn’t do that!</i>” or, “<i>They’re going to call you a Nazi anyway, so why do you fight it?</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">So, there’s all these things I just want to discuss a little bit.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Part of the problem whenever the word “<i>Nazi</i>” is thrown out, is like, “<i>What’s really meant by that term?</i>” Because it’s really so ill defined now. And, so I thought it was good to take a step back, you know, to understand there’s basically three categories that sort of fit the word “<i>Nazi</i>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">The first one is National Socialism. National Socialism is not a political party. It’s a ideology. It’s an economic system, sort of like Socialism is, or Marxism. You know, for example, you can have Marxists, but there’s a lot of different political parties that may adopt Marxism, the same way with National Socialism. And National Socialism is really not about concentration camps, the Holocaust, jews. No! It’s an economic policy. It’s, for example, if you believe in single payer health care. That was a National Socialist policy. Protecting the environment was very important to the National Socialists. Protecting the workers through good trade deals. That was National Socialist. That’s all it is, and that they don’t really have any symbols as an ideology, like Capitalism, or Communism.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Then, in the 30’s, 1933 to 1945, just twelve years, just twelve years! That’s all it was in Germany. You had a political party that advocated National Socialism. And they were called the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. What we now know as the Nazis. Adolf Hitler and all that. And as a political party, like the Republicans and the Democrats, you had the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. And the Republicans, they have the elephant as their kind of symbol, the Democrats has a donkey. Well, the National Socialist German Workers’ Party had the swastika. That was it! It didn’t have anything to do with the National Socialism ideology. It had to do with that specific political party. And they also used the Roman salute, which became the Nazis salute, and so forth. And it was headed by Adolf Hitler.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">That was in a sense the Nazi that ended in one 1945. And it was over! It was specifically German. So where is National Socialism, the economic policy, or the ideology, you could export to various countries — even Hitler thought that. But National Socialism German Workers Party, it makes absolutely no sense to export, because it’s just for Germans! So using a swastika elsewhere, especially like the Slavic areas, is stupid! It makes no sense! That party is dead. So the Nazis the real Nazis are all gone. They don’t exist anymore.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">But we have this thing called, “<i>neo-Nazis</i>”. And neo-Nazis, they’ve really started after WW II and almost all of them, like, I posted the link before, have been false flag, heavily Jewish funded, or government funded organizations. And you can ask, “<i>Why would they want to fund something like that?</i>” Well, it’s to discredit nationalist organizations. Because after the war the National Socialist German Workers Party, the Nazis, were really demonized and that’s part of the propaganda. And some of it was justified, some probably wasn’t. But that’s not up for debate. What happened is they were made out to be the devil and it’s got all the worse. So they’re looked at, like Satan now! The worst thing imaginable. So what happened, these groups, they fund these neo-Nazis and then the neo-Nazis — and then this happened through the 70’s and the Illinois Nazis, headed by a Jewish guy, in the 90’s there was a guy named David Wolf something, that was a famous Nazi, he was fake, a Jew.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Recently we had Hal Turner, the big Nazi, he turned out to be a Federal informant, and you have groups like Daily Stormer, that I believe are fake and they are doing the same thing. And what they’re, &#8230; The goal of the neo-Nazis are is to attach themselves — because they know they’re toxic and 99.9% of people are opposed to them — they attach themselves to a movement they want to discredit. And, for example, originally that the Daily Stormer they attach themselves to Donald Trump and it’s not because they like Donald Trump, it’s because they wanted to discredit him. So the mainstream media can say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Look at these evil Nazis are supporting Donald Trump! Do you want to support someone that’s supported by Nazis?</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">See, that was the psychology they were using. And it is pretty effective. And that happened with the Alt-Right too, the Daily Stormer was originally opposed to the Alt-Right, but when they saw it was gaining momentum, they decided to try to cut it off, by saying:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>No! No! The Alt-Right, it’s all about Nazis! If you’re not a Nazi you’re Alt-Right!</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">They started to push that. Now they’re trying to tie it to Republicanism.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">But the goal of neo-Nazis is just to discredit normal identity nationalist movements. And not to say, &#8230; I’m sure some people are very sincere. There are some sincere neo-Nazis, but in general Neo Naziism has nothing to do with the original National Socialism. I mean, if you go to sites like the Daily Stormer, they don’t really talk about the ideology of National Socialism, or the economic policies, they say the word “<i>kike</i>” over and over. But the original National Socialism wasn’t about saying, “<i>kike, kike, kike, kike, kike, kike!</i>” It had to do with something deeper. And it has nothing to do with the old Nazis of Adolf Hitler. They just use the same symbols, but it is really not related at all.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">So, you have the three different groups. You have national socialism, which is the ideology. You have the National Socialist German Workers’ Party that was in Germany and then you have these Hollywood neo-Nazis that are mostly fake!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">One of the things that just bugs me, it’s so frustrating! You hear this all the time is, like, “<i>Dude! Never punched to the right!</i>” Or, “<i>Never disavow!</i>” I mean, that is just retarded! It really is! <span style="color:#008000;">[laughing]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Because, just think about it logically, right! If you can never punch to the Right, which means never criticize someone to the supposed right of you. That is the most extreme positions are beyond criticism! Right, just think of a thought experiment, the most the extreme Right-wing stereotypical position. I don’t know, anyone that doesn’t have blue eyes or blonde hair should be put to death! ! That’s pretty extreme! And so, anyone trying to criticize it, you behave:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Dude! Dude! Don’t push to the right! Don’t push to the right!</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">You see how stupid that is? And the guy has a psycho position could say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>But why? You believe people with brown eyes should be able to live? What are you, a cuck? Cuck, cuck!</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">See, this is just insane!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">What you need to do as any organization is have a circle, a boundary. Yet, you can cuck, and what does cucky means, is you have your principles and you compromise your principles to try to appease the left. God knows, the mainstream Republicans have done that so much they have cucked on that. They’ve taken their principles, they betrayed them. That is wrong. That is cucking! But holding to your principles is not cucking! So you don’t have to support these neo-Nazi, Hollywood Nazi types, otherwise you’re a cuck. In effect if you don’t draw the boundary, you’re screwed. Because they’re going to taint your brand, which we saw with what happened in the Alt-Right.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">So you do need to punch right when needed.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Now, the Left, they will punch right, left, if they need to, if they’re pressed on it by the Press. But they usually aren’t. That’s why they usually don’t punch left. But if they were pushed on it, they would. You know they would! And, for example, the whole idea too, that:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey they’re going to call you Nazis, anyway, so you might as well just be a Nazi</i>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">That’s another argument, I hear. Well, again that is stupid! And I use an analogy. There’s the pick up artist community, of guys that try to seduce women, or whatever, into bed. I’m not saying that I agree with it or disagree with it, but the feminists always call them rapists! “Rapists! You’re a rapist!” Which is not, which is absurd! They are not rapists. They try to charge people. That’s not the same thing as rape. But should, by that logic, should they say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Well, hey, these feminists are going to call us rapists anyway, so we should self identify as a rapist!</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">That’s stupid! No you don’t want to do that! It is the same thing with this “<i>agree and amplify</i>”. That could be a good strategy at times, but not like someone accuses you of being a child molester of an eight year old girl. You don’t want to “<i>agree and amplify</i>” and say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>No! No! No! You’ve got that wrong! I rape four year olds!</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">So that’s just dumb! You’ve got to have some maturity with this. So, as an organization including the Alt-Right, or whatever organization you have, you got to exclude people on the left, or the right. If you don’t exclude anyone on the right, then you’re just going to be, you’re going to lose it! Because the clowns are going to take over and define your movement. That’s what has happened in the Alt-Right.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Now, the sad thing is, I don’t disavow Richard Spencer, because — I’ll find this interview and I’ll link to it. He did after the conference and — the man really is brilliant. He’s eloquent. He has really interesting things to say. But, what’s really sad, is that is not going to be heard anymore because of his refusal to disavow these Nazi types. And it’s not that hard to say, to disavow. And, you know, he, I think he said:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>It has bad optics, but I’m not going to disavow, or anything like that.</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Well, if you don’t do that, then you’re always going to be associated with Nazis. And you could say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Well, I don’t care they could all be associated with Nazis</i>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">But 99.9% of the populace does care, and they won’t take your message seriously. And every time you’re introduced, you’re going to be introduced as a Nazi sympathizer with the “<i>sieg heiling</i>”. And again this has nothing to do with Naziism back in the 30’s. I’m talking about this Hollywood neo-Nazi, <b><i>Daily Stormer</i></b> version. You’re always going to be tainted with that, and no one is going to take you seriously.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And it causes also problems for the people that attended the convention. I kind of feel sorry for them, because whenever you’re attending convention you assume there’s going to be certain protocols. I’ve spoken at <b><i>Amren</i></b>, American Renaissance, and one of the things I’m confident of, is <b>Jared Taylor</b> is never going to turn [it] into this “<i>sieg heil</i>” fest. Because it would be embarrassing, that would taint me. And the same thing with the people that spoke at this now, they’re all have this on their hands and they have to say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey! I didn’t have anything to do with this!</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">So, you’ve got to really think what you’re doing and look at the image of your brand, and you’ve got to have a brand that will appeal to people.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2440-3-npi-attendees-giving-nazi-salute-at-bar.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-12582" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2440-3-npi-attendees-giving-nazi-salute-at-bar.jpg?w=500" alt="ramzpaul-alt-right-rip-2440-3-npi-attendees-giving-nazi-salute-at-bar" width="500" height="260" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] “<i>Exuberant</i>” attendees going all Roman on us. Actually the guy on the left kind of looks like Ramzpaul!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Now, White identity, self-determination, really all those things are winning points. Trade, the whole idea of the Alt-Right really sells to people. But once you mix into it the “<i>sieg heiling</i>” you just lose it! You just lose it.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So, what Richard, I wish he would have said is:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Hey, I gave a speech, some people, four, or five people did this ‘sieg heil’. We can’t control what people do. I do not approve of this. We are not a Nazi organization. We disavow any Nazi influence, that’s not we’re what we’re about.</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">And if you just said that, it would have ended it. Because people, yeah the Leftist still would have been mad, but who who gives a shit about them, but normal people would have looked at it and said:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>Yeah, well that makes sense, you know, you can’t control what your audience does. He disavowed the people who did that sort of thing, that sort of behavior.</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">That’s the end of it. But if you don’t disavow it, you just try to play the game, like:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">“<i>It was just, they’re just trying to have fun, it’s bad optics</i>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">People are not going to buy it.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">So, I think that is the last thing I’m going to to say on the same subject.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Talk to you guys later.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [The following text, A Normie’s Guide to the Alt-Right  (available here as a PDF) was posted on The Daily Stormer website by its publisher Andrew Anglin on August 31, 2016. Its purpose is to give people new to the movement &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2016/09/04/the-daily-stormer-a-normies-guide-to-the-alt-right/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[The following text, <b><i>A Normie’s Guide to the Alt-Right</i></b> <span class="Apple-style-span"> (available here as a PDF) </span>was posted on <b>The Daily Stormer</b> website by its publisher <strong>Andrew Anglin</strong> on August 31, 2016. Its purpose is to give people new to the movement a brief overview, from the Stormer’s point of view, of what the <b>Alt-Right</b> is and isn’t, covering its history, the people involved, beliefs and terms commonly used.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">To quote Andrew Anglin:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<i>The core concept of the movement, upon which all else is based, is that Whites are undergoing an extermination, via mass immigration into White countries which was enabled by a corrosive liberal ideology of White self-hatred, and that the Jews are at the center of this agenda.</i>”</span></p>
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<h1 class="yt watch-title-container" style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Daily Stormer</span></h1>
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<h1 class="yt watch-title-container" style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"> the Alt-Right</span></h1>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.dailystormer.com/a-normies-guide-to-the-alt-right/"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;">http://www.dailystormer.com/a-normies-guide-to-the-alt-right/</span></a></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">CONTENTS</span></h3>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-1">Introduction</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-2">An Accurate History of the Alt-Right</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-3">Troll Culture</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-4">Conspiracy Theorism</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-5">Libertarianism/Paleoconservatism</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-6">The Manosphere</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-7">#Gamergate</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-8">The Old White Nationalist Movement</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-9">Identitarian Movements</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-10">A Reboot of the White Nationalist Movement</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-11">Creating a Counter Culture Which Eventually Becomes the Dominant Culture</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-13">The Ideology and Values of the Alt-Right</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-14">Anti-Semitism</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-15">White Countries for White People</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-16">Scientific Racism</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-17">Opposition to Feminism and “Gender Equality” Support for Traditional Families</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-18">Endorsement of White History</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-19">Cultural Normalization</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-20">Common Sense Economics</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-21">The White Struggle as a Global Battle</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-22">Our Memes</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-23">Pepe</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-24">Bane</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-25">Normie</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-26">Dindu Nuffin</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-27">Shitlord</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-28">Cuck</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-29">White Genocide</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-30">We wuz Kangz</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-31">Le Happy Merchant</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-32">1488</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-33">Holohoax</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-34">(((Echoes)))</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-12">KEK</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-35">Nirvana Fallacy</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-36">Sam Hyde</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-37">GTK-RWN</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-38">“Vibrant Diversity”</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-39">Anime</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-40">RetroWave</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-41">“It’s [Current Year]”</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-42">“Leaders” of the Alt-Right and the Media’s Fake Narrative</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-43">The Future of the Alt-Right</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-44">See Also</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-45">PDF Download</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="#Guide2AltRight-46">Version History</a></p>
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<h1 id="Guide2AltRight-1"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Introduction</span></h1>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Following condemnations by Hillary Clinton, everyone in the world is now trying to define exactly what the Alt-Right is. Most of them are getting it wrong.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The short story is that although the term could refer to a lot of different people saying a lot of different things, the people that it is being used to refer to by the media – Trump-supporting White racial advocates who engage in trolling an other activism on the internet – are the core of the movement, with any other groups and figures being peripheral.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The core concept of the movement, upon which all else is based, is that Whites are undergoing an extermination, via mass immigration into White countries which was enabled by a corrosive liberal ideology of White self-hatred, and that the Jews are at the center of this agenda.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The Alt-Right is a “<i>mass movement</i>” in the truest possible sense of the term, a type of mass-movement that could only exist on the internet, where everyone’s voice is as loud as they are able to make it. In the world of the internet, top-down hierarchy can only be based on the value, or perceived value, of someone’s ideas. The Alt-Right is an online mob of disinfranchised and mostly anonymous, mostly young White men.  This collective of dissidents argued with itself until it reached a consensus (consensus is yet to reach 100%, but it is damn close). We have now moved from arguments and debates and become a new political collective, a type of hive mind.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><i>The mob is the movement</i>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Some of the ways the movement presents itself can be confusing to the mainstream, given the level of irony involved. The amount of humor and vulgarity confuses people. The true nature of the movement, however, is serious and idealistic. We have in this new millennium an extremely nihilistic culture. From the point when I first became active in what has become the Alt-Right movement, it was my contention that in an age of nihilism, absolute idealism must be couched in irony in order to be taken seriously. This is because anyone who attempts to present himself as serious will immediately be viewed as the opposite through the jaded lens of our post-modern milieu.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Now, on to the long story.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I will first lay out what the movement actually is and where it came from, and then layout what it appears to be to the mainstream media, and why I believe these narratives differ so drastically, and conclude with some loose predictions of where I see all of this going in the future.</p>
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<h1 id="Guide2AltRight-2"><span style="color: #ff0000;">An Accurate History of the Alt-Right</span></h1>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Roughly four years ago, a new type of White nationalist movement began to form on the internet. This was mostly made-up of young people who were formulating ideas with minimal influence from prior White nationalist movements.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">It was a situation of different online subcultures (some of which were influenced by older offline movements) coming together. These groups collided, based on their having reached common conclusions, and the result is what is now called the Alt-Right.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I am going to layout here these various factions, and what ultimately led them toward this center-point where we have all met. The campaign of Donald Trump is effectively the nexus of that centerpoint.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Daily-Stormer-A-Normies-Guide-Alt-Right-2298-Pepe-Trump.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24649" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Daily-Stormer-A-Normies-Guide-Alt-Right-2298-Pepe-Trump.jpg" alt="" width="1348" height="906" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Daily-Stormer-A-Normies-Guide-Alt-Right-2298-Pepe-Trump.jpg 1348w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Daily-Stormer-A-Normies-Guide-Alt-Right-2298-Pepe-Trump-600x403.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Daily-Stormer-A-Normies-Guide-Alt-Right-2298-Pepe-Trump-1024x688.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Daily-Stormer-A-Normies-Guide-Alt-Right-2298-Pepe-Trump-768x516.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1348px) 100vw, 1348px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Note that there is quite a bit of overlap between these various communities, with many people – myself included – having traveled through more than one. Breaking them down into specific categories just makes it easier to grasp the overall development of the different threads of thought.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><b><i>Note:</i></b><i> I will list associated sites and people for each sub-group, though these sites will not necessarily be Alt-Right in nature. They are merely to let people know what is associated with the various factions.</i></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><b> </b></p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-3"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Troll Culture</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3305-pepe-heads.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24652" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3305-pepe-heads.jpg" alt="" width="710" height="378" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3305-pepe-heads.jpg 710w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3305-pepe-heads-600x319.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In my view, the core identity of the current Alt-Right originates from the highly intellectual meme and trolling culture which was birthed on 4chan in the 00’s.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The birth of the internet age marked the first time in history that unlimited amounts of information were available at people’s fingertips, and courageous men began to sort through it and discuss it wherever they were allowed to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">It was on 4chan’s /pol/ that most of the core concepts of what is now the Alt-Right were figured out. Many of the key “<em>anons</em>” (anonymous imageboard posters) from this group were people who had previously been involved in 4chan’s /b/, which is where modern internet trolling techniques originated.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The anonymous nature of 4chan allowed for all different sorts of people to get together and discuss all sorts of ideas, without having those ideas attached to an identity of any kind (not even an internet pseudonym). Anti-Semitic and racist jokes had been a key feature of/b/, but on /pol/ the sentiments behind the jokes slowly became serious, as people realized they were based on fact. /pol/ became a haven for virulent anti-Semites and aggressive racists, and tone of the Alt-Right is drawn directly from these roots on 4chan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">On 4chan, the Jewish problem was analyzed by news junkies and history buffs, feminism was deconstructed by sexually frustrated young men, and race was considered based on the actual data on the issue. The rehabilitation of Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP largely took place on 4chan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3306-Pollitically-Incorrect-Hitler.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24653" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3306-Pollitically-Incorrect-Hitler.jpg" alt="" width="669" height="623" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3306-Pollitically-Incorrect-Hitler.jpg 669w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3306-Pollitically-Incorrect-Hitler-600x559.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 669px) 100vw, 669px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div style="text-align: center;">
<p style="text-align: left;">This newly formulated Nazi ideology was then combined with the established troll culture, based on memes, hilarious images designed to transmit cultural concepts, and “<em>lulz,</em>” a term coined by the troll Jameth which defines the type of malicious humor associated with trolling.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Culture-jamming and various other forms of conscious social- engineering were first applied to online activism here. This made promoting the right-wing agenda not only meaningful, but also extremely fun. The Alt-Right carries with it that spirit of fun.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Sites and People:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1</strong> /pol/ – Effectively ground zero of the Alt-Right, in that this is where the aesthetic and basic ideology of the Alt-Right originated.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>2</strong> weev – Troll zero, weev was the key non-anon originator of what we now understand as troll culture.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>3</strong> Daily Stormer – A neo-Nazi website which rips-off memes from 4chan and refuses to give them credit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>4</strong> The Right Stuff – An edgy website for trolls, which features a wide array of podcasts, some of which are professionally produced. Originator of the echoes meme.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>5</strong> My Posting Career – It doesn’t really go in this category, but has to be put somewhere, as it has been an extremely influential site. Originator of the term “<em>cuckservative.</em>”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>6</strong> Ricky Vaughn – A Twitter personality.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>7</strong> Paul Town – Another Twitter personality.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>8</strong> GotNews.com – Another one that doesn’t exactly go here, but<br />
the site’s proprietor, Chuck Johnson, has been confirmed to have Internet Troll Personality Disorder (ITPD).</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Contributions:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1 Trolling<br />
2 Memes<br />
3 lulz<br />
4 Non-ironic Nazism masquerading as ironic Nazism<br />
5 Anime Nazism</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-4"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Conspiracy Theorism</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3307-Alex-Jones.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24654" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3307-Alex-Jones.jpg" alt="" width="714" height="419" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3307-Alex-Jones.jpg 714w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3307-Alex-Jones-600x352.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 714px) 100vw, 714px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Throughout the 00’s, conspiracy theorism was a key dissident movement on the internet. The movement was an extension of old anti-communist propaganda which had aired on shortwave radio, supercharged by the internet and a generally high level of confusion in society which led people to consider alternate explanations for events.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The movement gained traction initially with theories surrounding the 9/11 attacks having been orchestrated by intelligence agencies, rather than random Moslems. This was attached to anti-globalist concepts and the term “<em>New World Order,</em>” as well as more obscure theories regarding Freemasonry and global satanism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3308-Bohemian-Grove.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24655" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3308-Bohemian-Grove.jpg" alt="" width="707" height="540" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3308-Bohemian-Grove.jpg 707w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3308-Bohemian-Grove-600x458.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 707px) 100vw, 707px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">At the turn of the decade, however, the movement began to lose steam, as the conspiracy theories being promoted by the people who promote such theories had become increasingly bizarre/insane.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The people from the conspiracy scene then began becoming increasingly focused on the Jewish problem. Even those who currently do not focus on the Jewish issue have moved closer to Alt-Right type ideas regarding race and culture.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Sites and People:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1</strong> <strong>Infowars</strong> – The world’s foremost conspiracy website, run by a large man named Alex Jones. The site has, over the last year, become increasingly aligned with Alt-Right ideas, though without talking about the Jews. They have dumped a lot of the hardline kookery of the 00’s conspiracy movement.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>2</strong> <strong>Rense</strong> – The world’s second-most conspiracy website, run by Jeff Rense. It is just a link site, but it has influenced the narrative of the conspiracy movement in the way it chooses links. If you browse it now, a lot of the content is Alt-Rightish.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>3</strong> <strong>Red Ice</strong> – Heinrich Palmgren’s radio program started with a focus on conspiracies, but he has since moved into the Alt-Right. He has also expanded into other media.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>4</strong> <strong>Paul Joseph Watson</strong> – Lead agent of Infowars, Watson made a huge pivot from promoting chemtrails-tier kookery to anti-SJW materials last year. He has claimed that Jews do not control the media.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>5</strong> <strong>Veteran’s Today</strong> – The commentary website of Jewish conspiracy theorist Gordon Duff. The site is the last remaining bastion of hardline “<em>tinfoil hat</em>” type conspiracy theories. Duff has admitted to purposefully publishing disinformation.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>6</strong> <strong>David Icke</strong> – A British person who believes the world is controlled by lizard people from another dimension (all of whom happen to be Jewish).</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Contributions:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1 A willingness to look critically at mainstream narratives</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-5"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Libertarianism/Paleoconservatism</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><strong><span style="color: #993300;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3309-Rand-Paul.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24656" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3309-Rand-Paul.jpg" alt="" width="700" height="536" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3309-Rand-Paul.jpg 700w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3309-Rand-Paul-600x459.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" /></a></span></strong></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Though there is technically a difference between Libertarianism and paleoconservatism, the most notable figures could be identified using either of these terms. This was a counter-culture movement popular in the 00’s, fueled largely by Ron Paul’s ’08 and ’12 Presidential campaigns. Its roots went back to the campaigns of Pat Buchanan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In the early 2010’s, we saw many in the libertarian community becoming seriously disillusioned with their own movement. Ron Paul had failed miserably to gain traction in his 2012 Presidential bid, and much of the basic doctrine of the movement was beginning to look stale as other ways of looking at society were beginning to be presented – in particular, Fascism and National Socialism were introduced as competing alternatives to the current system of materialism, consumerism and corrupt crony capitalism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">At the same time, discussion of economics appeared to be becoming increasingly irrelevant, partially due to the immediate nature of social and cultural problems, and partially due to the development of technology making the old economic models obsolete.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Sites and People:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1</strong> TakiMag – A politically incorrect paleoconservative blog published by Taki Theodoracopulos.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>2</strong> Stefan Molyneux – A Libertarian YouTuber who has progressively moved away from hardline Libertarian cult doctrine and toward social criticism. He still doesn’t talk about the Jews.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>3</strong> Pat Buchanan – A former Presidential candidate and current columnist and commentator, he is one of the only modern mainstream politicians to criticize Jews.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>4</strong> Joe Sobran – Anti-Semitic Catholic columnist, now deceased.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>5</strong> Ron Paul – Failed presidential candidate.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>6</strong> Council of Conservative Citizens – An paleoconservative and pro-White organization founded in the 80’s. Recently accused of brainwashing Dylann Roof.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>7</strong> American Free Press – A newspaper and website which promotes Libertarian-conservative politics and anti-Semitism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Contributions:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1 Early anti-political correctness and criticism of Jewish influence</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-6"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Manosphere</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3310-three-men-drinking.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24657" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3310-three-men-drinking.jpg" alt="" width="706" height="497" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3310-three-men-drinking.jpg 706w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3310-three-men-drinking-600x422.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 706px) 100vw, 706px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">At the same time that 4chan was discovering Adolf Hitler, the pick-up artist community was in the process of transforming into what is now called the Manosphere. These are groups of men disillusioned with feminism in society.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Having used the starting point of feminism to look at the ills of our modern society, many of these men began to look at the Jews (who happened to have invented feminism) as playing a destructive role in the development of modern Western culture. Already outside of the bounds of what is socially acceptable, these guys did not have a problem entering into new realms of political incorrectness.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Sites and People:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1</strong> Return of Kings – The blog of Roosh V, originally a purely Manosphere-oriented site which now covers a variety of political and social issues.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>2</strong> Chateau Heartiste – A pick-up artist and anti-feminist blog which has moved progressively into politics.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>3</strong> Davis Aurini – A Manosphere figure who has become more political.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>4</strong> Matt Forney – A Manosphere blogger who now writes various right-wing materials.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Contributions:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1 Anti-Feminism<br />
2 Anti-Homosexuality<br />
3 Men’s Rights</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-7"><span style="color: #ff0000;">#Gamergate</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3311-gamergate.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24658" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3311-gamergate.jpg" alt="" width="709" height="420" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3311-gamergate.jpg 709w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3311-gamergate-600x355.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 709px) 100vw, 709px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The Gamergate provided a direct entry-point to what is now called the Alt-Right, as it was made-up of young White men who realized they were being disenfranchised by feminism and political correctness when aggressive SJWs began invading their space and making demands of them, and ended up digging into the “<em>dark corners of the internet</em>” to try and figure out what was happening.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Gamergate is notable in that they had some very serious successes in fighting off attempts to maintain their hobby as a White male affair (though Daily Stormer is the only site which has actually gotten a feminist fired from a video game company).</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">After Gamergate was banned from 4chan (a weird decision by moot, the site’s owner, when he was courting a Jewish girl who writes for Gawker), the movement transferred its base to 8chan, and was largely responsible for initially populating that site (it has also become popular among the Alt-Right, generally). Mingling there with Alt- Righters, many people involved became active in other aspects of the right-wing movement.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Sites and People:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1</strong> 8ch.net/v/ – The de facto home of the movement.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>2</strong> /r/KokatuInAction – The other de facto home of the movement.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>3</strong> Vox Day – A blogger, science fiction writer and various other<br />
things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Contributions:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1</strong> Drawing battlelines for the culture war<br />
<strong>2</strong> Making video games White and male again</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-8"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Old White Nationalist Movement</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3312-Rockwell.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24659" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3312-Rockwell.jpg" alt="" width="703" height="504" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3312-Rockwell.jpg 703w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3312-Rockwell-600x430.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 703px) 100vw, 703px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Finally, these various groups were combined, to various extents, with the older White Nationalist movements, which had existed since the fifties.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Some of those involved in the older movements dislike the Alt-Right because they don’t understand the humor involved, they think it is too hardcore, or because it rejects certain aspects of liberalism which they hold dear, such as feminism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Sites and People:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1</strong> Stormfront – The original WN spot on the internet.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>2</strong> David Duke – The grandfather of the White Nationalist<br />
movement.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>3</strong> VDARE – Edited and run by Peter Brimelow, VDARE is<br />
mainly focused on the immigration issue. They have some great<br />
writers, including James Kirkpatrick.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>4</strong> The Occidental Observer – Run by Dr. Kevin MacDonald, TOO<br />
publishes long essays on Jews, some of which are pretty good.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>5</strong> Traditionalist Youth Network – The home of Matt Heimbach’s<br />
Traditonalist Workers Party.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>6</strong> VNN – Alex Linder’s forum, VNN is a classic WN site.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>7</strong> American Renaissance – Jared Taylor’s organization, which is<br />
also the name of his news website.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>8</strong> Occidental Dissent – The blog of the League of the South’s<br />
Hunter Wallace.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Contributions:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1 IQ statistics<br />
2 Various ideas and concepts</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-9"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Identitarian Movements</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3313-Identitarian-Movements.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24660" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3313-Identitarian-Movements.jpg" alt="" width="710" height="489" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3313-Identitarian-Movements.jpg 710w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3313-Identitarian-Movements-600x413.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Like the standard WN movements, identitarian movements developed separate from the core of the Alt-Right and combined/mingled with it to an extent over the last couple of years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Identitarianism is an attempt at Americanizing certain themes of European nationalism which were seen to be lacking in the White Nationalist movement in America.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The exact differences between “<em>Identitarianism</em>” and “<em>White Nationalism</em>” have never been entirely clear to me, but those who fall under the former label tend to be more socially liberal than other factions of the Alt-Right, endorsing homosexuality and taking a softer stance on the need for pure White nations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Sites and people:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1</strong> Counter-Currents – Greg Johnson’s blog, publishes a lot of highly excellent essays. They also publish books.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>2</strong> Radix Journal – Richard Spencer’s blog.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Contributions:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1</strong> The term “<em>Alt-Right</em>”</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>2</strong> A bunch of books and essays</p>
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<h1 id="Guide2AltRight-10"><span style="color: #ff0000;">A Reboot of the White Nationalist Movement</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The movement is, at this point, entirely leaderless. The people involved in contributing to and/or consuming the content are on different Alt-Right sites and forums, many are on Twitter, reddit, 4chan, etc.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">There are minor “<em>leaders,</em>” people who others listen to, but because there is yet to be an officially codified doctrine, no actual leader exists. The mob is the movement.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">It is also important to understand that though older people are involved, this is fundamentally a youth movement, mainly made up of millennials. People in their thirties and beyond tend not to change their opinions very easily, so those older people who are involved mostly come from the older White Nationalist scene.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The reason that all of these various movements came together and developed the same basic values is not that they were built on something else. For the most part, it was people honestly searching for conclusions as to what was going on in the world in the information age. The reason these different groups ended up coming to the same conclusions about the Jews, race, feminism and the rest of it was that they had unlimited access to information, and open minds, so they all happened upon the objective truth.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">That is the probably most fitting definition of the Alt-Right from the perspective of those involved in the movement: a confluence of various groups of White men who reached the same objective truths through different avenues.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The Alt-Right can be viewed as a reboot of the White Nationalist movement. This is a simplification, but one which is basically accurate. People went out seeking the truth, found it, but instead of joining an existing movement which had a mostly similar ideology (the above mentioned old White Nationalist movement), they formulated a new movement.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Many of the memes of the old WN movement have been adopted by the Alt-Right, and are used with varying levels of irony.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">That said, there is nothing fundamentally different about the Alt-Right and the old White Nationalist movement. They have the same basic goals but simply use different methods in their attempts to achieve them.</p>
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<h1 id="Guide2AltRight-11"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Creating a Counter Culture Which Eventually Becomes the Dominant Culture</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The end goal of the Alt-Right is to first solidify a stable and self-sustaining counter-culture, and then eventually push this into becoming the dominant culture, in the same way that the Jewish-led revolutionary counter-culture of the 1960s has now become the dominant culture of the West.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I have personally been very conscious of this goal, and formulated strategies through which to accomplish it. I have studied in some detail the methodology used by the Jewish revolutionaries of the 1960’s, and done my best to adapt this methodology to the digital age.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3314-book-Rules-for-Radicals.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24661" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3314-book-Rules-for-Radicals.jpg" alt="" width="649" height="560" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3314-book-Rules-for-Radicals.jpg 649w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3314-book-Rules-for-Radicals-600x518.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 649px) 100vw, 649px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Of particular importance to me was the book “<em>Rules for Radicals</em>” by the Jew Saul Alinsky, given that he codified the strategy used by the Jews to tear down the entire ancient body of European traditions and social norms and replace it with something the Jews felt more comfortable with.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Given the all-encompassing nature of the current ruling system, our only real advantage is that we are outsiders. When the Jewish bandit- king David killed Goliath, he did so with a dirty trick, which bypassed the established rules, thus winning a battle he could never have won fairly. The Jews did the same thing in the 60’s. We are doing it now.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3315-Golianth-and-jew-David.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24662" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3315-Golianth-and-jew-David.jpg" alt="" width="697" height="535" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3315-Golianth-and-jew-David.jpg 697w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3315-Golianth-and-jew-David-600x461.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 697px) 100vw, 697px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">In the interest of understanding the relationship between the Alt-Right and the old White Nationalist movement, it is worth noting that most tension which exists between the two groups is based on the latter failing to grasp the methodology of the former. In a recent interview on the Grace and Steel podcast, American Renaissance Chairman</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Jared Taylor denounced the Alt-Right for its vulgarity, and I was left asking myself:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">“Is victory less important than upholding a social decorum?”</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Of course, in my opinion, it absolutely is not.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">This is about survival. We must win by any means necessary, or we will cease to exist.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Alt-Right Mission: Creating a Subculture Which Becomes the Dominant Culture</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Comments</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Originally published at: http://www.dailystormer.com/alt-right- mission-creating-a-subculture-which-becomes-the-dominant-culture/ Andrew Anglin Daily Stormer August 24, 2016 We constantly hear about how retarded Americans are about world events, and how Europeans are so much more clever, but here you have street interviews with Germans in Munich who know absolutely nothing about what is going on in The Ukraine. They vaguely believe Putin is to blame for whatever it is that is going on, but &#8230;</p>
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<h1 id="Guide2AltRight-13"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Ideology and Values of the Alt-Right</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The ideology and values of the Alt-Right are reactionary, formed in opposition to the modern Jewish norms. This effectively becomes a “<em>traditionalist</em>” perspective on society.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I will give a list of what I understand the mob to believe, on the whole. Of course, this will not necessarily include all of the people who currently identify as Alt-Right (and certainly will not include all of the websites I linked to above, many of which do not even identify as Alt-Right, though there is a lot of overlap).</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Note: I will not include “<em>opposition to political correctness,</em>” as Milo has done, and will instead break down all aspects of political correctness and why the Alt- Right opposes them.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-14"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Anti-Semitism</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The defining value of the movement and the foundation of its ideology is that the Jews are fundamentally opposed to the White race and Western civilization and so must be confronted and ultimately removed from White societies completely.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Jews are behind all of the things which we are against, the diametric opposite of everything that we stand for. In a very real sense, defeating and physically removing the Jews will solve every other problem. None of this would be happening if it were not for the Jews.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">It is now fully documented that Jews are behind mass-immigration, feminism, the news media and Hollywood, pornography, the global banking system, global communism, the homosexual political agenda, the wars in the Middle East and virtually everything else the Alt-Right is opposed to. This is, to a shocking extent, simply admitted by the Jews themselves.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3317-Hollywood-and-happy-merchant.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24664" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3317-Hollywood-and-happy-merchant.jpg" alt="" width="705" height="532" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3317-Hollywood-and-happy-merchant.jpg 705w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3317-Hollywood-and-happy-merchant-600x453.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 705px) 100vw, 705px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">As such, the only way to end these problems is to strike the root and remove the Jews from our societies.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-15"><span style="color: #ff0000;">White Countries for White People</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The end goal of the movement is to establish pure White racial states in all formerly White countries.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The current trend of non-White immigration into White countries will lead to a complete destruction of White culture, the White social order and ultimately an extermination of the White race.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">We believe in mass deportations of all non-White immigrants, regardless of whether or not they were born here. This would include, in America, a repatriation to Africa of the descendants of slaves (or an allocation of autonomous territory for them within our current borders).</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-16"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Scientific Racism</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The Alt-Right does not accept the pseudo-scientific claims that “<em>all races are equal,</em>” and instead looks to the real science of race which shows that they have vastly different abilities, drives and intelligence levels.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3318-races-of-the-world.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24665" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3318-races-of-the-world.jpg" alt="" width="707" height="557" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3318-races-of-the-world.jpg 707w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3318-races-of-the-world-600x473.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 707px) 100vw, 707px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Additionally, the Alt-Right views the Jews as a separate race, with biological drives and behavior patterns which come into direct conflict with the goals and values of the White race. Dr. Kevin MacDonald’s work examining the racial nature of Jews is considered crucial to understanding what the Alt-Right is about.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-17"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Opposition to Feminism and “Gender Equality” Support for Traditional Families</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">As with the claim that “<em>all races are equal,</em>” the claim that “<em>men and women are equal</em>” is looked at as entirely ridiculous by the Alt-Right. We believe in abolishing feminism and reestablishing traditional gender roles in society, a process which would involve sending women back to the home to produce and raise children, largely removing them from the workplace.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The Alt-Right is opposed to homosexuality, as well as the emasculation of men through denying them their traditional role in society.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-18"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Endorsement of White History</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The Alt-Right celebrates the greatness of our ancestors and the glory of our historical achievements. Rejecting revisionist arguments by modern social scientists which portray Whites as having wrought evil on the planet, we view Whites as the creators and maintainers of Western civilization.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3320-colleceum.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24667" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3320-colleceum.jpg" alt="" width="714" height="433" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3320-colleceum.jpg 714w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3320-colleceum-600x364.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 714px) 100vw, 714px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">We pride ourselves in doing the best we can to pick-up the ball that the baby boomers dropped when they sold-out the entire history of our people for feel-good nonsense.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-19"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Cultural Normalization</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Beyond simply restoring the family, the Alt-Right seeks to restore balance to society more broadly. This includes using authoritarian measures to deal with addictive drugs, pornography, crime and other degenerate social ills.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-20"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Common Sense Economics</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Though the focus of the Alt-Right is almost entirely on social and cultural issues, presumably due to the fact that technological developments have made economic issues much less relevant, we do believe that economics should follow basic common sense.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">If we were to physically remove Jews, however, this would probably fall into place naturally.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3321-jew-slogan.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24668" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3321-jew-slogan.jpg" alt="" width="508" height="506" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Right now, scarcity of resources is nigh entirely artificial, brought on by the crony capitalist system which has created the massive wealth gap, allowing a tiny minority to hoard wealth. Along with this, the trade deals which have allowed for our industry to be exported to the third world are opposed.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Most in the movement would support a type of free market socialism.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-21"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The White Struggle as a Global Battle</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The Alt-Right views the struggle for the continued existence of the White race as a global battle between Whites and the Jews. The internet has allowed for us to connect globally with as much ease as we can connect to someone down the street or in the next room, and this has fostered a sense of worldwide unity of cause for White people.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3322-world-IQ-map.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24669" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3322-world-IQ-map.jpg" alt="" width="703" height="414" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3322-world-IQ-map.jpg 703w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3322-world-IQ-map-600x353.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 703px) 100vw, 703px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Our problems are all nearly identical, the only difference being that we are dealing with different groups of non-Whites. There is a sense that either we are all going to win, or we’re all going to lose, and this creates a powerful sense of camaraderie across nations and continents.</p>
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<h1 id="Guide2AltRight-22"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Our Memes</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: left;">As has been clumsily discussed at some length by the media, memes are a big part of the Alt-Right culture. These images and slogans comprise not only an attempt, but a successful attempt, to formulate a new culture for ourselves, separate from the mainstream culture, which is largely the result of Jewish social imperialism.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">For the purpose of trying to give a better understanding of the nature of this new culture the movement has produced, I will give a list of examples of memes which, far from exhaustive, should allow those unfamiliar with the Alt-Right to get a basic idea of the headspace people in the movement inhabit. It is a place where irony and vulgarity meet conscious idealism, futurism and a deep reverence for objective, scientific data.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Many or most of these originated on 4chan, some of them having not been initially associated with anything necessarily political.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-23"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Pepe</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Pepe is by far the most covered meme in this media storm which has taken place around the Alt-Right. He is a cartoon frog, who has served as the movement’s mascot.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Pepe became the mascot (he wasn’t “<em>chosen</em>” by anyone, except the meme-mob, which is everyone) because he embodies the goal of couching idealism within irony. A movement which meets all of the SPLC’s definitions of Neo-Nazi White Supremacism using a cartoon frog to represent itself takes on a subversive power to bypass historical stereotypes of such movements, and thus present the ideas themselves in a fun way without the baggage of Schindler’s List and American History X.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-24"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Bane</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3324-bane.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24671" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3324-bane.jpg" alt="" width="701" height="542" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3324-bane.jpg 701w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3324-bane-600x464.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 701px) 100vw, 701px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Bane is the villain from the film The Dark Knight Rises, the final installment of Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The film, while aesthetically beautiful, was written by a Jew, with the villain Bane in many ways embodying the Jewish nightmare of fascism. The Alt-Right has adopted this character as a secondary mascot because of his character as a strongman, taking down an oppressive liberal-democratic system and attempting to establish an authoritarian-populist social order.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Other villains from popular Jewish-produced culture are also sometimes used within the Alt-Right meme culture for the same reason.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-25"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Normie</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3325-a-normie.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20571" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3325-a-normie.jpg" alt="" width="691" height="409" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3325-a-normie.jpg 691w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3325-a-normie-300x178.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 691px) 100vw, 691px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">“<em>Normie</em>” is a term used to refer to individuals who have not yet joined the Alt-Right, remaining trapped in the mental-prison of the Jewish system. These people are viewed as being incapable of objectively processing information, and will instead revert to programmed slogans whenever they are presented with ideas that conflict with their synthetic value system.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-26"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Dindu Nuffin</span></h3>
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<h3><strong><span style="color: #993300;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3326-nigger-Brown-assaulting-shop-owner.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24672" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3326-nigger-Brown-assaulting-shop-owner.jpg" alt="" width="721" height="423" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3326-nigger-Brown-assaulting-shop-owner.jpg 721w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3326-nigger-Brown-assaulting-shop-owner-600x352.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 721px) 100vw, 721px" /></a></span></strong></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">When arrested, Black people will often use the phrase, “<em>I didn’t do nothing</em>” when exclaiming their professed innocence. The term is used to mock the assertion by both Blacks themselves and the Jewish dominated media that Black people are not responsible for their own behavior, as well as the failure of Blacks to use standard English.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-27"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Shitlord</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3327-shitlord.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20581" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3327-shitlord.jpg" alt="" width="700" height="494" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3327-shitlord.jpg 700w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3327-shitlord-300x212.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The term “<em>shitlord</em>” was allegedly used initially by SJWs as an insult to racists and misogynists. I don’t personally remember it as an insult, however, given that it was so quickly taken on by the Alt-Right and used as a term of endearment and pride. This is an example of Alinsky’s instruction to own insults and thus remove their power (another example would be what happened when the Clinton campaign tried to popularize the #DangerousDonald meme).</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-28"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Cuck</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3328-Time-mag-cuck-Carl.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24674" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3328-Time-mag-cuck-Carl.jpg" alt="" width="485" height="633" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Another meme that the media has paid attention to, “<em>Cuck</em>” is short for “<em>cuckold,</em>” which is a man whose wife is cheating on him or a sexual fetish (and porn genre) involving a White man who enjoys seeing his wife have sex with Black men.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">“<em>Cuck</em>” (or “<em>Cuckservative,</em>” if one is referring to a cuck who identifies as “<em>conservative</em>”) is applied to Whites who relish in giving away the resources of their people to foreigners. The term applies to Whites who support mass immigration, support Black Lives Matter or support Israel.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-29"><span style="color: #ff0000;">White Genocide</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3329-at-least-I-still-have-the-constitution.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24675" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3329-at-least-I-still-have-the-constitution.jpg" alt="" width="713" height="644" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3329-at-least-I-still-have-the-constitution.jpg 713w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3329-at-least-I-still-have-the-constitution-600x542.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 713px) 100vw, 713px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">“<em>White Genocide</em>” refers to the idea, often supported by the UN’s Genocide Convention, that flooding White nations with non-Whites amounts to a form of calculated genocide against a racial group.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The Daily Stormer poster WhiteGenocideTM, who was cited in Hillary Clinton’s Alt-Right speech, was retweeted by Donald Trump, thus propelling the term into popular consciousness. Regrettably, there seems to be some confusion as to what the term means, with some (Clinton included, apparently) seemingly believing it is a call for Whites to commit a genocide(s), rather than drawing attention to the fact a genocide is being committed against us.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-30"><span style="color: #ff0000;">We wuz Kangz</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3330-￼we-wuz-kangz￼￼.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24676" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3330-￼we-wuz-kangz￼￼.jpg" alt="" width="703" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3330-￼we-wuz-kangz￼￼.jpg 703w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3330-￼we-wuz-kangz￼￼-600x462.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 703px) 100vw, 703px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">“<em>We wuz Kangz</em>” is a mockery of the Afrocentric anthropological claim that Blacks are the descendants ancient Egyptian kings. The phrase is used to mock the ineptitude of Blacks, and their continued claims that all of their endless failures are the result of White people oppressing them out of hatred for the color of their skin, rather than an innate biological incapacity to compete in White society.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-31"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Le Happy Merchant</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3331-le-happy-merchant.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24677" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3331-le-happy-merchant.jpg" alt="" width="498" height="663" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Le Happy Merchant is a Jewish caricature used to represent all Jews. It is used for the purpose of dehumanizing the Jew as a type of evil monster, rather than a human being, while also being very funny in its offensiveness. The character is used in a series of DIY comic strips as a diabolical villain tricking and abusing a good-natured but obese and dimwitted American (Le American Bear), as well as a whole lot of other memes. It has proven to be extremely effective in portraying Jews as an alien other, in the way the much more serious NSDAP anti-Semitic propaganda did in the 1930’s.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-32"><span style="color: #ff0000;">1488</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3332-1488-confessions.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24678" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3332-1488-confessions.jpg" alt="" width="702" height="372" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3332-1488-confessions.jpg 702w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3332-1488-confessions-600x318.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">“<em>1488</em>” is an old skinhead and White Nationalist battle-cry. “<em>14</em>” refers to the 14 words coined by David Lane:</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: left;">“We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">With 88 being an 88 word paragraph from Adolf Hitler’s <strong><em>Mein Kampf</em></strong>, volume 1, chapter 8:</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: left;">“What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. Every thought and every idea, every doctrine and all knowledge, must serve this purpose. And everything must be examined from this point of view and used or rejected according to its utility.”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">“<em>88</em>” can also mean “<em>Heil Hitler,</em>” as “<em>H</em>” is the 8th letter of the alphabet.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The Alt-Right certainly believes in these principles, but also uses the number ironically – it is a bit of self-depreciating humor, comparing ourselves to previous incarnations of the White Nationalist movement which are potentially viewed as low-brow.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-33"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Holohoax</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3333-holohoax.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20555" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3333-holohoax.jpg" alt="" width="654" height="650" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3333-holohoax.jpg 654w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3333-holohoax-150x150.jpg 150w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3333-holohoax-300x298.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 654px) 100vw, 654px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The Jewish Holocaust is viewed as the foundation upon which the modern system of White guilt was built, used by the Jewish-dominated establishment as a club to beat in the skulls of anyone who dares stand-up and claim that Whites have a right to their own countries.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The absurd assertion – either plainly stated or directly implied – is that whenever Whites organize for their own interests, they begin exterminating people. As such, the Jewish declaration of “<em>Never Again</em>” is taken to imply that there will never again be a White country.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The only way to subvert the Jewish obsession with bringing up the Holocaust whenever any White person claims they have a right to exist is to viciously mock the story, in large part by pointing out that they have yet to produce any physical evidence that it actually happened. Beyond laughing about the fact that Jews are such chronic liars that they invented a story about millions of people being gassed in fake shower rooms and made into furniture and cleaning products, the Alt-Right also asserts that if it had happened, it would have been justified due to the collective behavior of the Jews.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The mockery of the Holocaust fits into the theory that you cannot win by apologizing, as apologizing is the realm of losers.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-34"><span style="color: #ff0000;">(((Echoes)))</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3334-jew.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24679" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3334-jew.jpg" alt="" width="701" height="460" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3334-jew.jpg 701w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3334-jew-600x394.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 701px) 100vw, 701px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">A couple years ago, The Right Stuff began using a foot-pedal on their podcast to cause the names of Jews to echo. This was accompanied by the triple parentheses around the names of Jewish people or organizations. A Chrome app was created which would add the parentheses around the names of these Jewish people and organizations.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Earlier this year, the symbol was finally recognized by the Jews themselves, and they attempted to “<em>own it</em>” by voluntarily adding the parentheses to their names on Twitter. It was bizarre.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-12"><span style="color: #ff0000;">KEK</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3335-kek-and-Hitler.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24680" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3335-kek-and-Hitler.jpg" alt="" width="530" height="732" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Kek is the apotheosis* of Pepe, who at some point in the future will travel back in time to become an Egyptian god of trolling. I am not going to elaborate much on it here, as the subject is too complex and esoteric, but the Alt-Right is in the process of forming an actual religious doctrine around the god Kek, who is believed to be the spiritual root of meme magick.</p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #008000;">[*Apotheosis is the glorification of a subject to divine level and most commonly, the treatment of a human like a god. The term has meanings in theology, where it refers to a belief, and in art, where it refers to a genre.]</span></p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-35"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Nirvana Fallacy</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3336-Sargon-of-Akkad.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24681" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3336-Sargon-of-Akkad.jpg" alt="" width="697" height="457" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3336-Sargon-of-Akkad.jpg 697w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3336-Sargon-of-Akkad-600x393.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 697px) 100vw, 697px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">In February of 2015, this writer criticized the YouTuber Sargon of Akkad for blaming political correctness, rather than race, for the Pakistani rape gangs which operated for decades with impunity in Rotherham, England. Akkad responded to the criticism, with a video attacking me and defending Pakistani immigration to the UK. In it, he cited several fallacies found on Wikipedia, including the “<em>Nirvana Fallacy,</em>” saying that this particular fallacy meant that if these girls had not been drugged, gang-raped and trafficked by Pakistani men, “<em>White British men</em>” would have done it (it was implied that it would have happened in the exact same way, to the same girls, by Whites, making it appear as though he was presenting some type of metaphysical concept relating to divine predestination).</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Since then, this writer and others have jokingly reminded people whenever a terrorist attack, gang-rape, mass sex attack, or plain old brutal murder is committed by an immigrant or a Black that if they hadn’t done it, White British men would have.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">For example:</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: left;">“If a North African Moslem wouldn’t have run over those people in Nice for Allah, a White British man would have” or “if a gang of Blacks hadn’t kidnapped that 17-year-old White girl in Myrtle Beach and gang-raped her for days before shooting her and feeding her to alligators, White British men would have.”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The meme is designed to mock the ridiculousness of the liberal/ progressive/SJW/Jew assertion that all races are exactly the same.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-36"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Sam Hyde</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3337-Sam-Hyde.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24683" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3337-Sam-Hyde.jpg" alt="" width="712" height="667" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3337-Sam-Hyde.jpg 712w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3337-Sam-Hyde-600x562.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 712px) 100vw, 712px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Sam Hyde is a comedian, who has dedicated his life to viciously mocking the Alt-Right and other right-wing groups.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">At some point, someone on Twitter got the idea of posting the image of “<em>White Supremacist Sam Hyde</em>” as an announcement of a shooter’s identity during a mass shooting or terrorist event. The concept was to mock the Jewish media’s assumption that whenever a killing happens, the culprit is White, despite the fact that this is almost never true. The rule proved true, as repeatedly, the media would retweet and even publish reports based on the tweets.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3338-college-shooting-oregon.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24684" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3338-college-shooting-oregon.jpg" alt="" width="714" height="409" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3338-college-shooting-oregon.jpg 714w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3338-college-shooting-oregon-600x344.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 714px) 100vw, 714px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">During the Black Lives Matter protests at Mizzou, this writer managed to convince tens of thousands of Black people that Sam Hyde was a KKK leader on campus lynching Blacks. This writer was permanently banned from Twitter for this particular stunt.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-37"><span style="color: #ff0000;">GTK-RWN</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3339-Taylor-Swift-GTKRWN.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24685" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3339-Taylor-Swift-GTKRWN.jpg" alt="" width="708" height="426" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3339-Taylor-Swift-GTKRWN.jpg 708w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3339-Taylor-Swift-GTKRWN-600x361.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 708px) 100vw, 708px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">“<em>GTK-RWN</em>” stands for:</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: left;">“Gas The Kikes – Race War Now!”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">It is used ironically to mock the idea that anyone who supports White interests is a genocidal maniac.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-38"><span style="color: #ff0000;">“Vibrant Diversity”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">“<em>Vibrant diversity</em>” and “<em>cultural enrichment</em>” are terms which have been used with a straight-face by the Jewish establishment to refer to mass non-White immigration into White countries. The terms have been adopted by the Alt-Right to refer to rapes, mass-murders, terrorist attacks, etc. committed by non-Whites in White countries.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">This is a means to point out that there is literally no tangible benefit, whatsoever, to bringing primitive third-world people into White countries, as well as the utterly unfathomable levels of dishonesty used in the promotion of the immigration agenda.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-39"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Anime</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3340-Nazi-Anime.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24686" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3340-Nazi-Anime.jpg" alt="" width="703" height="416" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3340-Nazi-Anime.jpg 703w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3340-Nazi-Anime-600x355.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 703px) 100vw, 703px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Anime images are widely used as a part of the aesthetic of the Alt-Right. This is in part due to the fact that many people within the Alt-Right genuinely enjoy watching Anime, as it is viewed as a form of video entertainment which exists outside of the corrosive cultural norms created and promoted by the Jews who dominate the Western entertainment media.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">It is also used ironically by many who may not necessarily watch much Anime, because it is funny to associate hardcore racism and a love for Adolf Hitler with cute cartoons. This serves to take the edge off the portrayal of anyone who questions the ethnic cleansing of Whites as evil.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">It is also notable that Japan is generally viewed very positively as a nation and a people throughout the Alt-Right, due to their relatively high culture and their passion for defending it.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-40"><span style="color: #ff0000;">RetroWave</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3341-retro-wave.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24687" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3341-retro-wave.jpg" alt="" width="704" height="426" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3341-retro-wave.jpg 704w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3341-retro-wave-600x363.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 704px) 100vw, 704px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">RetroWave (also known as Synthwave) has become the preferred music choice of many members of the Alt-Right. It is electronic music with a 1980’s aesthetic, with influences mainly drawn from the soundtracks of films of that time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The 80’s is when most of the members of the Alt-Right were born, and we have a fondness for the optimism that embodied that era. It is often pointed out that the visions of the future given to the people through the media of that era have been abandoned in favor of a policy of third-worldizing the first world through mass third-world immigration.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This makes it impossible that the high-technology utopia we were promised by 80’s entertainment culture could ever be realized. RetroFuturism fits very well with the “<em>we want our future back</em>” theme of the Alt-Right.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The genre is small at present, mostly associated with the NewRetroWave YouTube channel. The Synthwave artist ~ C Y B E R N Δ Z I ~ is currently producing original White Identity-oriented music, and I predict that this will become more and more of a trend in the future, as this genre becomes to the Alt-Right what punk was to the skinhead movement.</p>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-41"><span style="color: #ff0000;">“It’s [Current Year]”</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3342-the-current-year.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24688" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3342-the-current-year.jpg" alt="" width="697" height="476" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3342-the-current-year.jpg 697w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3342-the-current-year-600x410.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 697px) 100vw, 697px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Another meme that the media has taken note of, “<em>it’s [current year]</em>” makes a mockery of the SJW catchphrase going something like:</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: left;">“I can’t believe that we still have [insert something] – it’s [current year].”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The idea behind these statements when made by SJWs is that certain ideas cannot be accepted due to the level of social development we’ve allegedly undergone over the past decades. They often use the statement, however, to promote policies which are viewed by the Alt-Right as the opposite of social progress, such as mass Islamic immigration or allowing Black people to attack cops.</p>
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<h1 id="Guide2AltRight-42"><span style="color: #ff0000;">“Leaders” of the Alt-Right and the Media’s Fake Narrative</span></h1>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The concept of the movement having “<em>leaders</em>” is a very recent invention of the media. In order to support this, they have invented an alternate history of the movement, which focuses on people who are only peripheral to the Alt-Right, and may in fact be opposed to its core narrative.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3343-leaders.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24689" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3343-leaders.jpg" alt="" width="699" height="395" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3343-leaders.jpg 699w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3343-leaders-600x339.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 699px) 100vw, 699px" /></a></p>
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<p><em>None of these men is the leader. And yes, that includes the guy in the middle.</em></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This presumably represents both a desire on the part of the establishment to define the movement on their own terms, as well as a fundamental incapacity to understand what is actually going on, believing that political movements must have leaders and a direct line of “<em>thinkers</em>” which can be traced back to various people influencing various other people who promoted various specific ideas.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Milo’s Breitbart piece, “<em>Establishment Conservative’s Guide to the Alt-Right</em>” (co-written with Allum Bokhari), being the first “<em>guide</em>” to the movement written, is serving as a basis for the narrative being presented by the media. This combines with the opinions of “<em>hate experts</em>” from the SPLC and the ADL to form a contrived and largely nonsensical forced “<em>history of the Alt-Right,</em>” complete with forced leaders who had little or nothing to do with the ideological and spiritual journeys of most people who make up the movement.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Much of this confusion is built on the term “<em>Alt-Right</em>” itself, which was allegedly coined by the Jew Paul Gottfried in 2008 and then used as the name of Richard Spencer’s new-defunct blog.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3344-paul-gottfried.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24690" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3344-paul-gottfried.jpg" alt="" width="698" height="409" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3344-paul-gottfried.jpg 698w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3344-paul-gottfried-600x352.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 698px) 100vw, 698px" /></a></p>
<p><em>Paul Gottfried, the Jew who supposedly coined the term “Alternative Right”</em></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The term “<em>Alt-Right</em>” came into wide, common use to describe the confluence of dissidents very recently, and has virtually nothing whatsoever to do with the Jew who allegedly coined the term, and much more to do with the way it sounds and the way the internet works. That is to say, people thought the term fit the movement, and when people began using the term on Twitter with the #altright hashtag, and then in blogs, it caught on, with people accepting that the term was being used to define what they believe. This happened less than a year ago, while the movement itself has been forming for several years.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The term “<em>Alt-Right</em>” itself is what the Jewish media is manipulating to use to redefine the movement along terms that it understands. They are tracing the origin of the term, and equating this to the origins of the movement. Which would mean that the movement was founded by a Jew, something which the media is probably comfortable with.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The media has been promoting Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer and Milo himself as the “<em>leaders</em>” of the movement.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3345-jared-taylor.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24691" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3345-jared-taylor.jpg" alt="" width="677" height="623" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3345-jared-taylor.jpg 677w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3345-jared-taylor-600x552.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 677px) 100vw, 677px" /></a></p>
<p><em>The Daily Caller recently labeled Jared Taylor “the intellectual godfather of the Alt-Right.”</em></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The first two individuals have both done great work contributing to the struggle of the White race, I just don’t personally see as though they’ve had overly much direct influence on the mob, which is the heart of the Alt-Right. That having been said, I am not opposed to having either of these men represent the Alt-Right in the media, necessarily, but I do fear that they will serve to remove focus from the Jewish problem. I absolutely believe that unrepentant anti-Semitism needs to remain at the core of the movement, just as it has been from the beginning.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">There is also the problem that neither of these men has attempted to assert leadership by forming an organization with a clear political platform. Jared Taylor has mainly focused on statistical data regarding race; I’m not familiar with any political material Taylor has written. I was also deeply concerned to see a recent interview with Taylor in the Jewish Daily Forward where he was presented as a leader of the Alt-Right and claiming that the movement is not against Jews and is actually reaching out to them and inviting them to join up. I believe virtually every single member of the movement would take very serious issue with.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Though I am not as familiar with the work of Richard Spencer, he doesn’t appear to have any specific political positions. Looking into him after he has received all of this media attention recently, I watched a 25 minute video he made entitled “<em>What is the Alt-Right?</em>” and I was left without any understanding whatsoever of how he defines the term, let alone any political positions he holds. I am also extremely uncomfortable with Spencer’s apparent support for radical homosexual movements – one of the few positions which I have heard him be very straightforward about – and do not see this as jiving at all with the basic culture and values of the Alt-Right.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3346-Jack-Donovan-top-man.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24692" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3346-Jack-Donovan-top-man.jpg" alt="" width="710" height="712" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3346-Jack-Donovan-top-man.jpg 710w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3346-Jack-Donovan-top-man-600x602.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px" /></a></p>
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<p><em>Richard Spencer has invited Jack Donovan to his conferences and publicly defended him. Donovan is a radical homosexual who has written on the internet about “fucking men like they were women” and specifically targeting men with “daddy issues.”</em></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">That having been said, both Taylor and Spencer are genuine people, and they may in the future present political positions in line with those of the mob and serve as a rallying point for the movement. However, until they do present political positions, declaring them leaders of a political movement is frankly ridiculous.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Milo, on the other hand, is a subversive and a disease. A homosexual Jew, he jumped on the movement a few months ago and was promoted by the entire media, propelled as the representative of the “<em>official movement.</em>” He has introduced a bizarre narrative where no one in the Alt-Right actually believes anything that they are saying, and simply say it as part of some obscure joke.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3347-Milo-with-jew-nose.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24693" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3347-Milo-with-jew-nose.jpg" alt="" width="705" height="484" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3347-Milo-with-jew-nose.jpg 705w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Normies-Guide-to-the-Alt-Right-3347-Milo-with-jew-nose-600x412.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 705px) 100vw, 705px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">In the past weeks, he has been promoted to celebrity status, apparently for the purpose of trying to cleanse the movement of anyone who actually believes anything. It is a bizarre situation, having someone claim to represent us, while presenting positions which are directly contrary to our core beliefs.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What he has done is adopt the tone of the movement, endorsing certain less important positions, while also serving as the tone-police, attempting to shut out the real heart of the movement by denouncing them as “<em>fringe.</em>” In his Breitbart piece, he claimed, among other things, that the Alt-Right has no problem with race-mixing or Jews, but simply mocks them because they oppose political correctness. In his piece, he dug-up people who actually are fringe members of the movement, and used them to attempt to redefine the movement.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">It is also noteworthy that he somehow forgot to mention the Daily Stormer, despite the fact that this site gets more traffic than all other Alt-Right websites combined.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">It is plain as anything that Milo is attempting to use the movement – which is hip, rebellious and edgy – in order to transform himself into a counter-culture icon.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">This all having been said, though I do find the situation outrageous, there is no real threat that Milo is going to take anything over. In fact, his newly-earned celebrity status has resulted in a huge backlash, with the mob enraged that he is openly and publicly lying about what the movement is, effectively defaming us, while shamelessly using our hard work and achievements for his own personal agenda.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Can&#8217;t Kike the Alt-Right (With Questions for Milo Yiannopoulos)</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Comments</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Originally published at: http://www.dailystormer.com/cant-kike-the- alt-right-with-questions-for-milo-yiannopoulos/ Andrew Anglin Daily Stormer April 7, 2016 [photo] I have already written a detailed response to the Breitbart article by Allum Bokhari and Milo Yiannopoulos, &#8220;<strong><em>An Establishment Conservative’s Guide To The Alt-Right.</em></strong>&#8221; But as this is the beginning of a massive assault on our burgeoning movement, I have spent a lot of time thinking about it, and would like to add further thoughts. &#8230;</p>
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<h1 id="Guide2AltRight-43"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Future of the Alt-Right</span></h1>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">To become a real and effective political force, the Alt-Right will need real leaders. Real leaders are not people that stand-up and claim to be leaders, but people that the masses naturally want to follow.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">We will need a platform which allows us to organize and collectively promote our agenda. This may be in the form of a political party, or it may be through an organization which acts to influence the existing Republican party. We need real organization, and it needs to be based on a platform which is approved by the mob.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">As far as I understand the mob, the points which I laid out in the “<em>ideology and values</em>” section of this piece would pretty much be universally agreed on by it, and should so serve as the basis for any organized political platform.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Besides, these are the positions that got us to where we are now, and there is no reason to believe they won’t continue to gain wider and wider acceptance among the people. In fact there is much reason to believe they will continue to spread, exponentially, just as they have been, until a large portion of the White demographic holds these positions. Toning down the message, however, serves absolutely no strategic purpose. It would cause the movement to lose momentum and it wouldn’t increase appeal.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">If Trump wins, we are going to have an opportunity to directly influence his administration, if we organize ourselves properly and develop a cohesive constituency (the latter we already have, I’d estimate numbering at 4-6 million people).</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">If Trump loses, we are going to have an opportunity to very vocally blame the Jews for his loss, which will serve our purposes nearly as much as a Trump win.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Either way, the future is very bright.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">As long as everyone involved keeps doing exactly what they’re doing right now, we can only continue to expand. There is no other option. Our ideas are winning.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The only threat of failure is if in trying to go mainstream we decide to compromise. However, because of the nature of this internet-based movement, where the mob has a very real voice and can say it loudly when they disagree with the direction something is going in, there is not any real chance anyone pushing a compromise could be successful.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">We already have a situation where anyone trying to go soft gets e-lynched for it, and that isn’t going away.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Whatever the end result of our great work is, I know this for certain:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><em>History will remember us.</em></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;">Hail Victory!</h1>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-44"><span style="color: #ff0000;">See Also</span></h3>
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<h3 id="Guide2AltRight-46"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Version History</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><b>Version 7</b>: Jul 31, 2020 — Added Table of Contents with links.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><b>Version 6</b>: Feb 23, 2020 — Re-uploaded images and PDF for <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>katana17.com/wp/</strong></span> version.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; [In this very informative interview, Nick Spero talks with Rainer from Aryan Skynet, and discusses the jewish meddling in Latin America, from the training of death squads, drug running and general subversion. Later they discuss Trump’s unsavory close associations &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2016/05/15/circus-maximus-interviews-aryan-skynets-rainer-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">[In this very informative interview, Nick Spero talks with Rainer from Aryan Skynet, and discusses the jewish meddling in Latin America, from the training of death squads, drug running and general subversion. Later they discuss Trump’s unsavory close associations with various shady jews in his business affairs and in politics, coming to the unpopular conclusion that Trump is working for the jews, a view that I think is unfortunately correct<span class="Apple-style-span"> — KATANA.]</span></span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;">http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/circus-maximus-rainer-chlodwig-von-kook-aryan-skynet-5-6-16/</span></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"> https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/05/07/circus-maximus-interviews-aryan-skynets-rainer-chlodwig-von-kook-5616/</span></h3>
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<p>Renegade Broadcasting’s Nick Spero spoke with guest Rainer Chlodwig von Kook of Aryan Skynet on Friday night’s episode of Circus Maximus. Discussion covers Hollywood propaganda, brainwashing, talk radio, corporate media conglomerates, William Cooper, conspiracy culture, Salvador Allende, the Alt Right, Donald Trump, Zionism, child prostitution, and more.</p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Welcome everybody! I’m your host, Nick Spero. And this is Circus Maximus on the <a href="http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/"><strong>Renegade Broadcasting Network</strong></a>.</p>
<p>Tonight is May 5th or May 6th, 2016. And welcome to the Friday night show.</p>
<p>And I have been doing a series for the past few weeks related to the New Right. A lot of the secret right members related to the Council for National Policy the CIA’s involvement. Even people that are, you know, both on in the CFR as well as the CMP, the Knights of Malta, a lot of different think tanks related to the New Right, jewish involvement, Christian Identity, Evangelicals, Mormons, Scientology, a lot of different groups, bunch of different factions, all part of the conspiracy for world domination.</p>
<p>The Latin America region has been the template for privatizing industries around the world. That’s where the CIA and all these different groups have dipped and dabbed and put their own rulers into power when other leaders have been democratically elected. All under the guise of:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>These people are communists! We have to end communism!</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>And that has been the bogeyman for the past sixty years, plus.</p>
<p>So, I was covering <strong>Roy Cohen</strong> last week, relating to him being Roger Stone’s and Donald Trump’s mentor. Donald Trump learning a lot of his tricks and a lot of the different methods to the madness and where he got where he’s at today.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1947-Roy-Cohen-journalist-Ed-Kosner-and-Donald-Trump.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23237 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1947-Roy-Cohen-journalist-Ed-Kosner-and-Donald-Trump.jpg" alt="" width="1120" height="670" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1947-Roy-Cohen-journalist-Ed-Kosner-and-Donald-Trump.jpg 1120w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1947-Roy-Cohen-journalist-Ed-Kosner-and-Donald-Trump-600x359.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1947-Roy-Cohen-journalist-Ed-Kosner-and-Donald-Trump-1024x613.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1947-Roy-Cohen-journalist-Ed-Kosner-and-Donald-Trump-768x459.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1120px) 100vw, 1120px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Circa 1980s, Roy Cohen (left), journalist Ed Kosner and Donald Trump.</span></p>
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<p>So, we’re going to take a little break from Roy Cohen tonight. And I do have a guest. The guest that I’m having on, I do follow him on twitter and his articles have been related to what I’m covering on my shows, related to the Latin America death squads and the CIA and Mossad involvement with what I just mentioned, with the privatizing of industries and whatnot.</p>
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<p>So my guest is <strong>Rainer</strong>. And he has a website. It is, “<i>I care views</i>” on wordpress dot com. And his twitter handle is actually, “<i>I care views</i>”. And he also is a major contributor for <strong>Aryan Skynet</strong>. That is where the articles that I usually have partaken, because they’re more related to what I research. And the other website “<i>I care views</i>”, Rainer could you explain what that pertains to? Mostly, isn’t it more about movie reviews and whatnot, could you explain that?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, “<i>i-c-a-reviews</i>”.  [ <a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://icareviews.wordpress.com/">icareviews.wordpress.com</a>]</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> “<i>i-c-a-reviews</i>”. Sorry about that, “<i>i-c-a-reviews</i>”.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>i-c-a-reviews</i>” for <strong>Ideological Content Analysis</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Okay.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s basically a deconstruction of the content that you get in the Hollywood garbage. It’s about analysis of this, some of the subliminal content or the Cultural Marxism, those kinds that you get in major Hollywood films. And sometimes I look at more obscure independent films and pop culture generally. And the Skynet is more, that’s more your geopolitics and your, “<i>Deep State</i>” stuff.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right, absolutely and I noticed that you do have Shaun’s “<i>TCTA Unleashed</i>” as one of your blogs that you follow, so that’s pretty cool that you guys have already been connected in that way and you did state that that was one of your favorite shows on renegade. So that’s cool. Shaun is on the line and he’s actually administering this call for us, so maybe he’ll jump in later and say hello.</p>
<p>As far as some of your articles, actually you had one that was published on the Renegade Tribune at one point. Which one was that again? That was the Freud vs, &#8230;.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: <span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8220;</span></b><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://www.renegadetribune.com/freud-and-jung-as-representative-jew-and-gentile/"><strong><em>Freud and Jung as Representative Jew and Gentile</em></strong></a>&#8220;.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Perfect! Yeah, that was a good article, by the way.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Thanks!</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> You’re welcome. And how did you come to this information, what got are motivated to become active. And share your insights with the rest of the world?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, not that many years ago I was blue pilled and clueless as about anybody. Certainly all through the Bush years, like a lot of people. Circa 2009, when a lot of us were trying to figure out what was wrong, something was wrong and a lot of us didn’t really have the information at their disposal. Started looking around. I went through a libertarian phase, being a good goy. Very self-absorbed, preoccupied with what was going on in my life and the pop culture, all that stuff. I was a movie guy, movie buff. And I really have <strong>Don Logan</strong>, to thank my fellow Skynet mate, who’s on twitter also downloading Netflex.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He’s really the guy who got me away from some of the more middle of the road or, you know, what you might call and “<i>basic bitch libertarian ideology</i>”, you know, the Tom Wolfe and all that kind of stuff and he turned me on to <strong>American Free Press</strong> and <strong>Michael Collins Piper</strong>. I started reading Victor Thorn, their articles. That was really the turning point. I radicalized pretty rapidly after being exposed to the right information.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> That all it takes.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Yeah. And so and, you know, when you write about film and you have this this other information at your disposal. It’s really inevitable that you begin to view it in an altogether different way. And that ideological content analysis began almost as a joke. But, I was talking about the political content in movies in a kind of a kidding way but, you know, the more I got into it, it really is pretty devious and poisonous stuff that gets dumped into people’s heads. And, you know, just on mass scale.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Oh, yeah!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">People tend to mis-define mind control by dwelling on MK-Ultra and things like that, you know, electromagnetic this and that. But really, mind control is completely open. <strong>Michael Hofmann</strong>, the guy who publishes revisionist history did a, he delivered a good lecture called “<a href="http://www.revisionisthistory.org/matrix.html"><i>The Columbine Matrix</i></a>”. And he documented about how the CIA does not need to take you into a little room and brainwash you, or give you a, you know, a special dose of this or that to turn you into one of their agents. I mean, it’s out in the open. You take the drugs voluntarily, you watch the brainwashing serials. They don’t need to clip your eyelids open, like Alex in<b><i> A Clockwork Orange</i></b>. Your sitting there watching of your own volition.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yes!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s what that blog is all about. That’s what that project is about.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah. And your testimonials are kind of the opposite of what you would normally expect. Your <a href="https://icareviews.wordpress.com/testimonials/">testimonial page</a>. [laughter] Normal people would put a lot of the positive feedback that you would get about your blog and whatnot! But you put the ridiculous comments that people were talking about, like, “<i>Good god, you’re insane!</i>” and:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>I have zero interest in reading the lunatic notions of a White supremacist apologist and things of that nature!</i>” [laughing]</p></blockquote>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, well I’m a little bit disappointed that they don’t get more negativity! I enjoy it! And that tells me I’m doing something right, if people of that, if it gets a rise out of those types of people. I mean I tire out those tired insults and lesser things. I’d be happier to get more hate mail.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah. [laughing] I haven’t read any of your movie reviews yet, but, would you say that a lot of them are satirical to where that’s what’s pissing people off? Or are you pretty much getting into the nitty gritty and that’s what’s pissing people off?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> A little of both, a little both.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I see, I see.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I give a little synopsis of what the movie’s about, maybe, you know, whether I give it thumbs up or down on the entertainment front. But, then I go, &#8230; The reviews are formatted as a list. I basically bullet point the different ideological currents that are present in the film.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Any films that you’ve analyzed recently that were worthwhile? Anything Hollywood has put out there that was actually worthwhile? [laughing]</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, my take on it is going to be different from somebody else’s.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Sure.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s almost impossible for me anymore to watch a movie and just sit back and enjoy it. Because, now I’ve got it, i’ve trained myself to the point where, I’m really watching movies in a much more clinical way. So I’m not, I’m not as preoccupied with the lighting or the acting, so much as what’s being perpetrated against us.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I’m the same way. I’m the same way. I even do that with older films now to. I go back and check them out.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">In a way, you do lose something there. You kind of miss, in the sense of just being able to enjoy a movie as a piece of entertainment and relax. But it’s precisely when you let down your defenses and you give yourself up to a movie, that you become susceptible. I mean you allow it to access your mind on a subconscious level. I can’t really allow myself to do that anymore.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;">[As an aside Rainer’s last point reminds me of the scene in <b><i>Dr Strangelove</i></b>:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Ripper:</b> I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women&#8230; Women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake, but I do deny them my essence.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Mandrake</b>: Heh heh&#8230; Yes. — KATANA]</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> And Hollywood is connected with the CIA and Pentagon and DOD and what not with a lot of what’s been put out anyway. It’s kind of like a high priest system that’s conjuring the spell that they’re ready to cast out to it’s audience.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Definitely! Definitely! And they, I mean the CIA, doesn’t make a secret of the fact that they have an entertainment industry liaison, you know, on this or that film. I mean, they don’t tell you everything, but that’s, I mean, that’s that’s an open secret, if they even maintain any pretense of, you know, plausible deniability there. Everybody knows that they have CIA agents contributing to the end product of a movie like <b><i>Zero Dark Thirty</i></b>, for instance.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah. What is your thoughts on that whole thing with the navy, Seal Team Six? With, I understand, all of the members are dead now? After the alleged capture or death of Osama bin Laden. Have you looked into that?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. They all went down. I believe it was nineteen guys in one chopper.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Seal-Team-Six-helicopter-crash.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23316 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Seal-Team-Six-helicopter-crash.gif" alt="" width="917" height="515" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] SEAL Team Six: On August 6, 2011 Afghan insurgents shot down a U.S. Chinook helicopter. &#8220;<em>Thirty Americans were aboard, including 22 Navy SEALs. Most of the SEALs were from <b>SEAL Team 6</b>, the unit that had killed bin Laden three months earlier. All aboard the Chinook were killed. However, <b>none were from the squadron that participated in the Abbottabad raid</b>.</em>&#8220;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bin-laden-raid-year/story?id=16219260#7</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Michael Savage, of all people, made a big deal of that. And he of course, had his own spin on it. He kind of tried to hijack the conspiracy theory before it became inconvenient. And he tried to turn it into this Zionist narrative. He said that he tried to make it out like the Muslims had an inside man with the, I don’t know, the Department of Defense or Obama administration or something, and had gotten revenge for the killing of bin Laden. But, no I think these would have been and privy to the reality that something other than what was advertised happened in that bin Laden compound.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1632-Michael-Savage-on-RT-re-Team-Seal-Six.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23292 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1632-Michael-Savage-on-RT-re-Team-Seal-Six.gif" alt="" width="630" height="419" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Michael Savage</strong> being interviewed on RT: “<i>Michael Savage: SEAL Team Six was set up, murdered in Afghanistan.</i>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Note:</b> When asked whether it was clear that any of the Team Six members killed where the same ones who took park in the [alleged] killing of Bin Laden, he answers, “<i>No, but they were part of the same unit</i>”.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Source: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnr5T7knvU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnr5T7knvU</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Been privy to the fact that nothing happened or, you know, anyway, were in a position to debunk the, the, “<i>Obama the hero</i>” story. And I think they’re probably swept under the rug.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> With these Right wing talk show hosts that are like your Alex Jones and Michael Savages, it seems like they’re privy to information a lot of times before it happens. Where they have the opportunity to predict, you know, the predictive programming to unleash on it’s, their audience. Plus, right away they’re all over an incident and they’re are able to gate-keep and steer the information into the direction that they want their audience to believe.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I haven’t noticed so much the prediction. Now when you mention it what came to my mind was William Cooper. William Cooper famously predicted 9/11, basically.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[15:04]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Correct. That’s what red-pilled me, by the way, for the most part.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, William Cooper is an interesting guy because he spent most of his career peddling the most preposterous conspiracy theories. But then, I mean he, 9/11 is what made him a legend in my view. Because he called, he called bullshit on the whole bin Laden myth before it was, you know, even mainstream.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> One month before Alex Jones did.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. But yeah, Cooper, he’s a difficult figured to sum up. Because he does seem to have been largely concerned with disseminating disinformation. He was into all of that extra terrestrial stuff.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> And what he did, he did say later on that he kind of rebukes doing that. That he felt that he was being fed lies. That he no longer, pretty much, believes what he had been disseminating in his past broadcasts and books and whatnot.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, it’s really 9/11. 9/11 was that guy’s finest hour. I listen to his 9/11 broadcast in it’s entirety. It’s pretty amazing, you know. And he basically nailed it from day, before day one.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1633-William-Cooper-Predicting-something-like-911.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23293 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1633-William-Cooper-Predicting-something-like-911.gif" alt="" width="478" height="554" /></a></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Oh yeah.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, that was pretty remarkable!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now these other types of guys, I consider most of them pretty low level cogs in the machine. I don’t think that Sean Hannity or Rush or any of these guys have a great deal of inside information as far as the black ops. And I think they just they seem pretty clueless to me. I’m sure they act. I’m sure a lot of it’s an act. But, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I would say it’s an act, because they’re paid millions of dollars to put out disinformation or whatever. And they belong to these think tanks that a lot of these other people who are the movers and shakers, belong to. So there’s probably a hierarchy of what’s being, you know, shared with these lower level Talk Radio hosts. But at the same time they are still rubbing elbows with these same people that are doing a lot of what they’re talking about on air.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Now a guy like Bill Kristol, who was, if I’m remembering rightly, was actually a PNAC signatory, Project for a New American Century. And that guy probably had some inside information that he was a member of that tribe and everything.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Jews-who-got-the-US-into-Iraq-war.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23315 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Jews-who-got-the-US-into-Iraq-war.gif" alt="" width="752" height="783" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Jews behind the Iraq War, with most of them being members of<strong> PNAC</strong> (Project for a New American Century).</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> And then Irving Kristol, his father.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean some of these real doofuses, you know, Glenn Beck and Hannity. It’s hard for me to believe that they would be privy to much, in the way of inside information. I think they just, they just, &#8230; Beck is, &#8230; He does put on a show, I mean he does do a schtick. I think he is pretty genuinely dopey in a lot of ways.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Glenn-Beck-and-Sean-Hannity.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23314 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Glenn-Beck-and-Sean-Hannity.gif" alt="" width="761" height="484" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, I think so to. But as far as collaborating on events that take place, do you think that they’re just handed a script and they are just told to repeat it, or do you think they’re all collaborating on a inside level whenever there’s one of these mass shootings or terrorist, so-called terrorist events that occur? Like 9/11.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t know how coordinated they are at the level of a script or talking points, but there is definitely, &#8230; I wrote a post called, “<i>Airwolf Command</i>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Airwolf-Command.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23311 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-Airwolf-Command.gif" alt="" width="690" height="918" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b><i>Airwolf Command</i></b>.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2015/03/23/airwolf-command/</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it was about the ownership of these companies. The ownership of Cumulus, which distributes a lot of these conservative shows. If you go to nasdaq dot com, and if you look up pretty much any major media corporation. They’re owned at the highest level by these investment firms. Three of the big ones are, State Street, Vanguard Group and Blackrock.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And these investment firms own millions of shares in, basically everything. Your fast food chains, your TV networks. People think, you know, they’re turning on Fox News. Again the conservative news. People then turn on NSBC they’re getting the liberal perspective. But the ownership is, at the highest level, in common. These companies are held in common. And they’re held in common with military industrial interests.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Absolutely.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[20:08]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Companies like general dynamics and Rathyon and Lockheed Martin. And what you also have are interlocks at the level of boards of directors, between banks, defense contractors, media corporations, oil companies. And so, yeah, I mean at some level there is some orchestration going on. At the level of the actual host who slobbers the jibberish on the microphone, I don’t know, you know, how much they know, how aware they are. I’m sure they all know which topics to avoid. In order not to get themselves in hot water, they all know which issues to sidestep and which boogie men to blame, so yes, to some extent it’s an act. I mean, whether they really know what happened with the bin Laden raid hoax, I don’t know.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, I even did a timeline just on the acquisitions, mergers and acquisitions just from the Black Mann Stone and Kelly, the BMSK lobbying group, and then how they merged with a different group of then, boom, boom. And then over the years there was, you know, gobbled up by a advertising firm that owns different news networks and whatnot. So, yeah. I completely agree with what you’re saying and how this whole conglomeration is tied in with the military industrial complex, with news networks and how they disseminate information.</p>
<p>Did you ever look into how Roy Cohn and Rupert Murdoch came together with [Ronald] Reagan and pretty much helped Murdoch, &#8230; Well, actually Murdoch helped Reagan with his Latin America incidences going on during his presidency to disseminate information in favor of Reagan throughout the whole time?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1640-Ronald-Reagan-with-Rupert-Murdoch-and-Roy-Cohn.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23294 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1640-Ronald-Reagan-with-Rupert-Murdoch-and-Roy-Cohn.gif" alt="" width="1049" height="693" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Ronald Reagan with Rupert Murdoch and Roy Cohn (standing), Jan 18, 1983.</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I believe, I remember reading something about when Murdoch was first introduced to Reagan and his entree to Zionist power circles. And was that Cohen that made the introduction?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah. Tom Bolan and Roy Cohn where they were in the same law firm together. Tom Bolan being a knight of malta. And Cohn being the guy, you know, of many connections, set that meeting up with Murdoch and Reagan, to make that happen. So, it’s pretty interesting. I’m going to get into that when I start getting into more of the Roy Cohn information.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1642-Tom-Bolan-Rupert-Murdoch-and-Roy-Cohn.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23295 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1642-Tom-Bolan-Rupert-Murdoch-and-Roy-Cohn.gif" alt="" width="503" height="567" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] From left: Tom Bolan, Rupert Murdoch and Roy Cohn at a party during Ronald Reagan’s inauguration, Washington, D.C. (January 21, 1985)</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Have you investigated Murdoch’s family tree?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Not in depth, no. I’m not sure. A lot of people saying he’s Catholic, but I think he’s one of those conversos where he’s actually jewish, myself.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1643-David-Irving-on-Murdoch’s-possible-jewish-background.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23296 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1643-David-Irving-on-Murdoch’s-possible-jewish-background.gif" alt="" width="608" height="987" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">[Image] David Irving’s thoughts on Murdoch’s possible jewish background.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><b>Source:</b> <a href="http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertainment-news-monopoly-murdoch-jew-part1.html">http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertainment-news-monopoly-murdoch-jew-part1.html</a></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I know there’s one of the names in his family tree which is “<i>Green</i>”. Which could be a red flag. I’ve never found really conclusive commentary on it.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> But he’s usually awarded different Zionist type of awards, so.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. He’s just, it’s hard to believe that he’s not, you know?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Exactly! Exactly! And then Shaun might know a little bit more about that guy since he is from Australia, Murdoch.</p>
<p>So I wanted to get into your articles related to, &#8230; Let’s cover the Pinochet angle, because a lot of the New Right, the Alt Right of today are praising this guy, as far as, doing what he did in Chile with the death squads.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1646-President-Allende-and-General-Pinochet.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23297 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1646-President-Allende-and-General-Pinochet.gif" alt="" width="627" height="449" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] File photo showing then-Chilean President Allende and General Pinochet at the presidential palace La Moneda in Santiago. Then-Chilean President Salvador Allende (R) and General Augusto Pinochet are seen at the presidential palace La Moneda in Santiago in this undated file photo. September 11, marks the anniversary of the coup d&#8217;etat in Chile that ushered in a 17-year dictatorship under Pinochet. More than 3,000 people died or disappeared because of political violence during Pinochet&#8217;s 1973-1990 military rule. </span></p>
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<p>And they brag about the helicopter incidences of, you know, destroying a lot of people’s lives. Assassinations, imprisonment, torture, rape, all the above with Pinochet’s regime. And they praise this guy, because he was eliminating communism in Chile. So, you did write an article related to that. As far as Allende, as well. Democratically elected president for Chile, who was assassinated. So if you want to get a little bit more into that, I would like to hear your analysis of that.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[24:50]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Sure. Allende was a rising figure in Chilean politics during the sixties. And the US, even under Kennedy, was attempting to undermine his rise to prominence. And they were already trying to torpedo his election chances, as far back as 63, I think. One of the sources for this period is the man who was the US ambassador to Chile. His name is Edward Korry. He was also the ambassador to Ethiopia. He served under Kennedy, Johnson and also Nixon.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1648-John-F.-Kennedy-meets-Edward-M.-Korry.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23298 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1648-John-F.-Kennedy-meets-Edward-M.-Korry.gif" alt="" width="998" height="749" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] President John F. Kennedy meets with newly-appointed United States Ambassador to Ethiopia, Edward M. Korry (right). Oval Office, White House, Washington D.C., 13 March 1963. Korry was the United States Ambassador to Chile from 1967 to 1971.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Korry has been alleged to have been complicit, to have been a participant in the coup, the seventy three coup. So some of his account you might take with a grain of salt, because he’s obviously tried to distance himself from that allegation. But he’s been pretty open about the fact that, in his words, the CIA was basically serving as a collection agency for various US. Corporate interests. ITT Corporation, the Telephone Telegraph company, Pepsi Co, and Richard Nixon had that one time been the attorney for Pepsi Co. Anaconda Copper was another one.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Allende, it’s true, identified as a communist. But he was politically a much more eclectic sort of guy. He had a lot of influences and I argue in my article he was really more of a nationalist, or a Socialist Nationalist, or if you must, National Socialist. Because what he was interested in doing was in taking back Chile’s resources and putting these to use for the Chilean people.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because what had been going on in a was basically a run on it’s mineral wealth and it’s resources, similar to what happened in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. The place was being taken over by these multi-nationals.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> The Chicago Boys were over in Russia too? Or, I know thy were definitely in Chile.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Chicago Boys were, as I understand, definitely an influence in shaping Russia’s economy after the fall of the Soviet union.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> They did the same for China as well.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. These were disciples of Milton Friedman at the university of Chicago.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Oh, yes.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, what happened when Allende, you know, spoiling the CIA’s intentions. You know, the CIA had expended all this money trying to prevent Allende from being elected in the seventies.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1649-Salvador-Guillermo-Allende-Gossens.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23299 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1649-Salvador-Guillermo-Allende-Gossens.gif" alt="" width="555" height="725" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens (26 June 1908 – 11 September 1973), more commonly known as Salvador Allende, was a Chilean physician and politician, known as the first Marxist to become president of a Latin American country through open elections in Nov, 1970.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">On 11 September 1973, the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d&#8217;état sponsored by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).As troops surrounded La Moneda Palace, he gave his last speech vowing not to resign. Later that day, Allende shot himself dead with an assault rifle, according to an investigation conducted by a Chilean court with the assistance of international experts in 2011.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source: </b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He did win over the people, he did get elected and so it was, again, it was ITT, International Telephone Telegraph and Anaconda Copper, were two of the big ones that wanted this guy taken out because they were losing their concessions, all their privileges that they’d been granted under previous governments.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1650-Henry-Kissinger-“Shut-it-down”.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23300 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1650-Henry-Kissinger-“Shut-it-down”.gif" alt="" width="598" height="394" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Henry Kissinger: “<i>Shut it down!</i>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Henry Kissinger, under Nixon, was basically at the beck and call of these people. And they basically said, “<i>Hey, this Allende character is giving us trouble down here</i>” and they’re going to nationalize the copper for instance, the copper mines. That was one of the first things the Allende wanted to do.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1651-Pinochet-and-Kissinger-in-a-death-grip.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23301 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1651-Pinochet-and-Kissinger-in-a-death-grip.gif" alt="" width="717" height="475" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Pinochet and Kissinger in a death grip.</span></p>
<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, the US just basically did to Chile what they’ve done in more recent years to Ukraine. They didn’t like the government so they Overthrew it, with astroturf and by any means necessary essentially. Mr Korry was even quoted at the time, as saying that the intention of the US was to make the Chilean economy, “<i>Scream</i>”. That was the word that he used. And so they blockaded the country, cut necessary materials for industry, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[29:20]</b></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>BREAK</b></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>RENEGADE AD</strong>: I think we’re seeing a resurgence of anti-gentilism. Because at this time israel has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we’re going to be part of the throes of that transformation. Israel is not going to be a monolithic society it once was and gentiles are going to be in the center of that. Israel is now going into multicultural mode. But without this change and without this transformation Israel will not survive.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[31:41]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Welcome back everybody I’m your host Nick Spero and this is Circus Maximus. I am on with Rainer from icareviews and Aryan Skynet. We were discovering that Chilean coup de’tat, with Pinochet being the CIA plant. So, where were we? Where did we leave off with the, “<i>screaming economy</i>” I believe, right Rainer?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Sure. Yeah, that was the situation. So, Allende was attempting to recalibrate the country’s economy so it was serving the interests of the people. He was famously concerned with just making sure people had food and making sure children had milk and so forth. He was not some, foaming at the mouth Bolshevik, hanging priests and bulldozing churches. And he was not, that’s not what was happening in the country. He was trying to reorient the economy so it was serving the people. And these multinationals were not having it, so that’s where the ‘73 coup comes in.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Pinochet was the general, that the CIA backed in overthrowing Allende. And Michel Chossudovsky, who was teaching economics in Chile at the time, says it was basically a neoliberal coup.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Michel Chossudovsky</b> (born 1946) is a Canadian economist and author. He is a professor of economics at the University of Ottawa and the president and director of the Centre for Research on Globalization.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">He was a visiting professor at the Pontifical Catholic University of Chile during the 1970–1973 government of Salvador Allende. It was the effects of General Augusto Pinochet&#8217;s post-coup policies which sparked his interest in what he termed &#8220;economic repression&#8221;. Among other measures, Pinochet&#8217;s government quadrupled the price of bread, and Chossudovsky set out to examine the social effects, concluding that the government was engaging in more than just conventional political repression. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Chossudovsky is the son of a Russian Jewish émigré, the career United Nations diplomat and academic Evgeny Chossudovsky, and an Irish Protestant, Rachel Sullivan</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It wasn’t a Fascist coup and not necessarily a right wing coup. It was a neo-liberal coup. It was it was like, Korry says, the CIA was acting as the collection agency for these multinationals. It was strictly a grab. It was a grab for the resources of the country.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Oh yes. Absolutely! But this is a TRS’ just take on this. They said something along, &#8230; Well the article is titled, “<i>Dear Conservatives, you will not win the Latino vote</i>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1653-TRS-You-Will-Not-Win-the-Latino-Vote.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23303 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1653-TRS-You-Will-Not-Win-the-Latino-Vote.gif" alt="" width="750" height="530" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://therightstuff.biz/2015/07/29/dear-cuckservatives-you-wont-win-the-latino-vote/">http://therightstuff.biz/2015/07/29/dear-cuckservatives-you-wont-win-the-latino-vote/</a></span></p>
<p>And for Chile, they describe Chile as famous for Augusto Pinochet and his coup against the communist government of Salvodor Allende.</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>The lesson you need to take from Chile is that Chileans elected communism of their own violation [volition] and what they had to literally be coerced into free market capitalism.</i></p>
<p><i>Thanks to Pinochet’s deep institutional reforms the country’s free market system was able to survive despite Chileans repeatedly voting for socialists. Those socialists trying to change the constitution to suit them. Having communist students protesting for free stuff. And electing said communist students to parliament. Chile will obviously not remain the free market capitalist country it has been for decades. Chileans don’t want it to.</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, it’s unfortunate, but even in our neighborhood on the internet. In this movement, if you want to characterize it is a movement, you still get these people talking, “<i>free market</i>” this and that. And, I went through that phase, I mean, I had to go through my libertarian phase to get where I am.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You even hear Jared Taylor, I’ve heard him pay lip service to the free market, and you hear this from some of the the neo reactionaries, they love capitalism and it’s just, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Moldbug!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s just Republican residue. I grew up in a blue collar Republican home and so I grew up thinking Ronald Reagan was, I mean that was as good as you could get, you know, I mean. And these this free market stuff and this capitalism mentality, it’s just a kind of this pseudo ethnicity, I mean, it’s the closest thing to an identity that they allow Europeans to have now. You have to be for Capitalism or you’re a communist. It’s just so bankrupt.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s really not just that it’s empty it’s that it’s actually destructive of us. We, there’s really going to have to be some kind of socialist component to any healthy society that’s interested in preserving it’s identity.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Well even America in itself, by having a police force and fire department and public education, that is all socialist anyway, regardless.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I think, you know, during my transitional period when I was weaning myself off, of some of that, I was a big fan of Brad Trun who has the Libertarian Realist YouTube channel. I still like Brad and I admire his work, he’s a really sharp guy. But I just had to abandon that whole mentality. The two things are really not compatible, identitarianism and the free market stuff. It doesn’t work.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1656-Brad-Trun-being-interviewed-on-Red-Ice-Radio.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23304 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1656-Brad-Trun-being-interviewed-on-Red-Ice-Radio.gif" alt="" width="875" height="765" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Brad Trun being interviewed on Red Ice Radio.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXgS2_UJegk</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> So, I understand there was a huge propaganda campaign going on, even when Allende was elected, to destroy the economy. To make him look bad, to get people all restless.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Definitely! The country was wracked with strikes. And I will read you exactly what. Mr Korry said. Now Korry today, Edward Korry, the man who was then ambassador to Chile, attempts to distance himself from all of these, you know, deep political plays against Chile. But he was mixed up in it and he said that. OK, he said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Not a nut or bolt shall reach Chile once Allende comes to power. We shall do all within our power to condemn Chile. And all Chileans to utmost deprivation and poverty.</i>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s straight out of the mouth of the US ambassador to the country. I mean, it’s what they’ve done, it’s what they’re doing now to Iran, it’s what they’ve been doing to Cuba, for so many decades now.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yes, and even with Iran when they had the BP situation where, forget his name, he wanted to nationalize the oil because BP was only giving them, like twenty three cents on the dollar at the time, and that wasn’t fair to Iran or the people of Iran. And with Libya, Gaddafi was pretty much a National Socialist, in my opinion.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Muammar al-Gaddafi</strong> (June 1942 – 20 October 2011) in earlier and better days. In 2011, he warned Europe that if he went down, they would be flooded with millions of negroes. “There are millions of blacks who could come out of the Mediterranean to cross to France and Italy, and Libya plays a role in the security of the Mediterranean.” Jews were behind the invasion of Libya and his death, and wanted this to happen.</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh, definitely.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> With all the different ways that he was taking care of his people. With the education and money towards a home when they got married, and additional funds for having children, and giving them benefits from the oil production. Where they got a check for just the oil production in Libya. And you hear these GOP members, they still demonize him as being evil, or even Hillary, you know, supporters or Obama. They support what happened in Libya as well, just going off of the narrative that he was an evil dictator and mistreating his people when it was actually the quite the opposite.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1659-Hillary-Hag-Clinton-on-Gaddafis-death.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23306 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1659-Hillary-Hag-Clinton-on-Gaddafis-death.gif" alt="" width="704" height="758" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Hillary Hag Clinton</strong> on Gaddafi&#8217;s death: “<i>We came, we saw, he died!</i>”</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. And with a lot of these Third World governments during the middle to late twentieth century, all of these regimes did identify ostensibly with Marxism and with communism. But it was almost a protest vote. It was almost a way of saying, “<i>We’re not with you</i>” you know, the US was the aggressor, the US was the imperial neo-colonial power. And it identified as strongly capitalist.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So these nationalist, or National Socialist regimes were identifying as communist, wasn’t necessarily an indication that they were doctrinaire zealots, you know, Marxist Leninism, or whatever. But it was, there was a strong current of nationalism that ran through so many of these powers.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[40:30]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> There were mostly just anti-globalists for the mosts part.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> They weren’t the Soviet Union type of communism that, like you said, they weren’t burning churches or anything like that, you know, and just throwing their own people into gulag’s and starving them to death or anything like that. So what else would you like to touch upon about the coup over in Chile? I know that after the Chicago Boys came in, they pretty much screwed up the economy.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1661-Milton-Friedman-with-Chicago-Boys.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23307 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1661-Milton-Friedman-with-Chicago-Boys.gif" alt="" width="634" height="365" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Milton Friedman</b> (middle, front), the guru of the monetarist school of economists based at the University of Chicago, taught and groomed quite a few of Pinochet’s top Chilean economic advisors known as the “<b><i>The Chicago Boys</i></b>”.</span></p>
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<p>They didn’t do what TRS claims they did as far as helping out their people. And I also understand that the IMF. Ended up coming around to rescue them!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, if you listen to Milton Friedman or any of the advocates of Chicago style economics, it was a great success! They take a basket case that it’s been ruined by socialism and they gave it a shot in the arm. That’s always what you’re going to get from those people. I mean, the same thing happened in Russia. And it was basically, they they just exploited and got in the country. And that’s what happened. The standard of living of the average Chilean, plummeted almost immediately. I mean, people were expending more of their income just on the basic necessities of life immediately after the coup.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right. Plus a lot of what, I think the numbers range from forty thousand to over a hundred thousand of people who were offed or disappeared, put into prison camps and tortured. So there’s a fluctuation in numbers there. A lot of people stick with the three to four thousand range for people who were actually murdered and, not to mention all the other people that were tortured.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. There’s a parallel situation in Argentina. What’s called the southern cone of South America, was one big experiment really. The CIA was involved in Argentina. I wrote a post about Pope Francis’ activity in Argentina during those years. He was mixed up with the CIA, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Sure.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And their coup in that country.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I’m sure. Can you talk a little bit about that? Because that’s pretty interesting. Real quick though. I understand that Allende was half jewish, though, and that he was also calling out the Jews at the same time, saying that Hebrews are well known committers of certain types of crimes, including fraud, deceit, defamation, but most notably, usury. So that’s kind of a weird conflict, was he a self hating jew or what? [laughing]</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’m sure that’s what Mr Foxman of the ADL would suggest! But it’s interesting. I don’t know. Now if you read mainstream articles about that, they will, &#8230; If you read articles by liberally inclined people who are seen to defend Allende, they they will suggest that he drifted away from those views, those sorts of HBD oriented beliefs that he held were an infatuation of his youth. And that, well he, once he became a good Marxist he abandoned all of that. But we don’t really know, I don’t think. There’s one man and, I believe his name is Petras [sp] , who wrote a book alleging that Allende was a crypto Nazi or something. It was never published in English.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, he certainly is not a classical Marxist, and certainly not all of his life. And he’s certainly not the progressive choir boy that a lot of his champions today would like to believe that he is. There’s a lot more complexity to him and that’s why he’s an interesting figure.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[45:00]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Now, with Allende, a lot of Jews fled, when he was elected, to Israel because they were fearful of losing their property and assets to the socialist regime. And then in this article that I found related to your article, it was a different author, says furthermore:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>When Pinochet took over three years later many of those who had fled returned to Chile! However other Jews fled the country too</i>”.</p></blockquote>
<p>So it seems as if Pinochet was actually good for the Jews in a lot of ways?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh, definitely. He was he was their man on the scene. And the fact that they brought in these these Chicago Boys, I mean, that tells you all you need to know.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Exactly.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, the situation in Argentina I think is a little blurrier. Now, jewish writers act like Argentina, under the dictatorship there, was some kind of neo-Nazi hell hole again and that they were imprisoning them and all of that. The country actually enjoyed pretty friendly relations with Israel also. So Argentina is more complicated, but in Chile, I think you can make that case more easily that it was good for them.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Now we were going to touch on Argentina just now and you’re going to tie in ISIS to the CIA. So let’s hear about that.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh yeah. <strong>Pope Francis</strong>, his real name is <strong>Bergoglio</strong>. Ethnically, he is an Italian, even know a lot of people would like to make him out to be the first Latino pope, he’s an Italian.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Jorge Mario Bergoglio</b>, the given name of <b>Pope Francis</b>, was born in Flores, a barrio in Buenos Aires, on December 17th, 1936, the eldest of 5 siblings.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Bergoglio, who was head of the Jesuit order in Buenos Aires during Argentina’s grim “<i>dirty war,</i>” mostly tended to his bureaucratic rise within the Church as Argentine security forces “<i>disappeared</i>” some 30,000 people for torture and murder from 1976 to 1983, including 150 Catholic priests suspected of believing in “<i>liberation theology.</i>”</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Is he one of those are conversoes, one of those Italians that, were actually not really Italian, but actually jewish converting over to Catholicism from Italy.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I wouldn’t know. I haven’t done, I haven’t dug that deep. But he was definitely in league with, and in cahoots with, the CIA in their agenda in Argentina. He was involved with identifying dissenters, who were abducted and executed. A good site for learning about this period of history in this region is Global Research, which Michel Chossudovsky maintains. He takes an interest in that, because he was teaching economics in both those countries actually. He was teaching an Chile and he was also in Argentina. So he takes a personal interest in that. And that’s a good site that I would recommend generally. Now, he comes out from more of the leftist perspective and some of the terminology, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1663-orge-Mario-Bergoglio-and-General-Jorge-Videla.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23309 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interviews-Ranier-1663-orge-Mario-Bergoglio-and-General-Jorge-Videla.gif" alt="" width="446" height="471" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Jorge Mario Bergoglio</strong> and <strong>General Jorge Videla</strong>.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<i>Jorge Mario Bergoglio not only supported the US sponsored dictatorship, he also played a direct and complicit role in the “Dirty War” (la guerra sucia”) in liaison with the military Junta headed by General Jorge Videla, leading to the arrest, imprisonment, torture and disappearance of progressive Catholic priests and laymen who were opposed to Argentina’s military rule.</i>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source: </b>http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-pope-who-is-francis-i-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-and-argentinas-dirty-war/5326675</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Most of that site is more of what you would call leftist per se, but sometimes you’re going to get a lot of exposure of these right wing death squads, from the left. [chuckling]</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, yeah. Now that’s why I mentioned the terminology. Though, some of the sites like Chossudovsky’s site will call people racists, or they’ll call them fascists, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> The Nazis and whatnot.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">If you just, in some cases, if you just replace the words, I mean if you just change the wording, you’re getting some truth there.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yes.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, I encourage people to get outside, kind of the echo chamber of the sense that, you know, they feel or refer reflecting, &#8230; A lot of people get stuck in the left right thing and, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I agree.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And you’re not getting the whole picture there. There is, what I’m interested in seeing is a synthesis of positions. Because I don’t see many people who are really getting the big picture.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> They’re not.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And certainly in terms of geopolitics in terms of the economic forces shaping the world. I feel like I get a lot were truth out of a lot of these, you know, quote unquote, left wing sites.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I get some, even from my Daily Kos, which is completely leftist. Another one is “<i>watch dot pair dot com</i>” that covers a lot of what I’m covering on my New Right series. And they will use those Nazi terms and racist terms and whatnot. But at the same time they are still exposing Israel and the judaic conspiracy and the Mossad and CIA, and Knights of Malta. They’re covering all different angles while they are still using those buzzwords of racist and whatnot.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh, yeah. Another good guy is <strong>James Petras</strong> [petras.lahaine.org].</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>James Petras</strong> (born c. 1930s) is a retired Bartle Professor (Emeritus) of Sociology at Binghamton University in Binghamton, New York and adjunct professor at Saint Mary&#8217;s University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada who has published on Latin American and Middle Eastern political issues. He is the author of more than 62 books published in 29 languages, and over 600 articles in professional journals.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And you’ll see him published sometimes at sites like, Global Research or Axis of Logic. Some of these social sites. But, I mean, the guy is pretty blunt in telling, you know, what’s going on. The guy even wrote about, he called out the jewish lobby and he didn’t even call it “<i>Israel lobby</i>” he called it the “<i>Jewish lobby</i>”. The Israel lobby got us into Iraq, so, some of these people, I mean, they speak in truth.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I even interviewed a guy that writes for <b>CounterPunch</b> [counterpunch.org] . And I mean that’s another leftist site, per se.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">CounterPunch is, I visit it once in a while and it’s got some some good content, sometimes it’s just intolerable. I mean, it depends on what they’re covering. If you want, you know, reasonable coverage of something like the Trayvon Martin case or something, this is going to be, you will throw up just trying to read it!</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah [laughing]</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, they&#8217;re good on the foreign policy stuff.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, this guy that I interviewed, he was covering the Smithfield Food buyout from a Chinese company, you know, the pork industry and how a chinese company became the world’s largest port processing company in the world and how Goldman Sachs was behind that merger and acquisition, so it was pretty interesting. So you’re going to get some good stuff from these lefty guys.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I even wrote a post called, “<i>When Lefties are Right</i>” because I encourage people to read a broad array of material.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/01/23/when-lefties-are-right/">https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/01/23/when-lefties-are-right/</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">One thing I try to do with my articles is write about things that I don’t see other people writing about. So I mean the HBD stuff is covered, there are enough people singing the praises of Donald Trump and, you know, if I see some area that’s being neglected I take an interest in that.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, all you have to do is go to twitter, go to the hash tag alternative right or HBD or NRx and you’ll get all those talking points <em>ad nauseum</em> and you’re not going to see much of anything else. It’s just going to be that angle, it’s not a broad picture, it’s pretty one dimensional.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. And I don’t see that I’m accomplishing much by just joining the amen corner.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, I am trying to bring something different to the table. Ideally I’m doing something unique that is fascinating</span>.</p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> You know, we’ve got about five minutes to our next break. Let’s cover more about the Latin America situation, as far as, how that was kind of the testing grounds for privatizing other areas around the world. Was there anymore that you wanted to touch upon for Argentina?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Argentina. The post I did about that one is titled, “<i>Neo-liberalisation Theology</i>”. And again that was dealing with Pope Francis’ involvement there. And I carry into Pope Francis’s role at present in Europe, because he says he’s still doing the globalists work, as see it. Michel Chossudovsky published an article at Global Research, the title of which I think pretty much sums up what the Vatican is about. He published an article titled, “<i>Washington’s Pope</i>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1997-Washingtons-Pope-article.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23244 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1997-Washingtons-Pope-article.jpg" alt="" width="739" height="621" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1997-Washingtons-Pope-article.jpg 739w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1997-Washingtons-Pope-article-600x504.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 739px) 100vw, 739px" /></a> </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-pope-who-is-francis-i-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-and-argentinas-dirty-war/5326675">http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-pope-who-is-francis-i-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-and-argentinas-dirty-war/5326675</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And some people like to make out like that there’s a Vatican hand controlling and secretly moving or puppeteering a lot of the events of the world. But as I see it, they’re basically just playing along with the the US foreign policy aims and globalist aims. They just kind of an, “<i>also ran</i>”, a kind of jackal that is tagging along, picking at the bones of the animals that others have killed.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I think of the Jesuits order, the Society of Jesus. You know, when they were the globalist arm at the time, where they would go into these Third World nations and subvert their their culture and get them to convert to Catholicism and pretty much become part of the globalist empire, per se. I think they’ve laid the groundwork a long time ago. Where now, these Jesuits are the learning institutions were your high public officials and your movers and shakers are learning their theology, their methods.</p>
<p>Whereas, I agree they’re not really the movers and shakers per se, anymore, there are more of the propagandists and the teachers of these people, like your Georgetown university’s and whatnot. Where these people are learning the methods of what the Jesuit order had done over the years. So, yeah they’re not really pulling the strings so much. So, yeah, go ahead. I’m sorry.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, I mean, when was the last time that the Vatican called Washington on anything of any importance? They basically play along with the game. I mean, the Vatican has nothing to say about 9/11 or anything. They’re not out there telling the truth. They’re obviously cowed and they’re obviously a subsidiary arm and subjugated party in the world. And I think they’re just happy to be thrown a bone and they’re kind of benefiting from Globalism as it’s being implemented in the US right now, with all the importation of these Third Worlders, because they’re, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Filling the churches!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Whites are abandoning the Catholic Church and and so they’re just kind of profiteers off all of this. And I think, again, I don’t see them as being all that powerful, really. They’re just a contributing factor to to the the general myth.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I do think that Cardinal Spellman did pull out of strings when he was the Cardinal of New York, back when Kennedy, JFK. Was around. They do say that Vietnam was Cardinal Spellman’s war. I don’t know if you’ve heard that term before?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23245 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam.jpg" alt="" width="1106" height="982" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam.jpg 1106w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam-600x533.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam-1024x909.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1998-Cardinal-Spellman-in-Vietnam-768x682.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1106px) 100vw, 1106px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Cardinal Spellman in Vietnam, Dec 25, 1965.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Cardinal Spellman getting his ring kissed, along with Bob Hope and other members of a USO Vietnam Show. At 07:48 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMYvhfjuEmU#t=470</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I have not heard that particular formulation.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Roy Cohn was also Cardinal Spellman’s lawyer. [chuckling]</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, if you look into who got rich off of that war, was it the Catholic Church or was it some of these defense interests?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Oh, not only the defense interests, but a lot of the heroin was coming back again to the US and whatnot, because of that situation.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, they were shipping it back in the caskets.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Source: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.wanttoknow.info/militarysmuggledheroin">http://www.wanttoknow.info/militarysmuggledheroin</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yes, yes. That was another version of the French Connection.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> So God, gold, oil and drugs. Right.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. That’s the title of the book, actually. Yeah that’s that’s a whole other thing, a whole other can of worms.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> All right guys we will be right back after a longer break.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[61:07]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Welcome back everybody. I’m your host, Nick Spiro and I’ve got Rainer on with me and he can be found at icareviews.wordpress.com and aryanskynet.wordpress.com. And we were covering a lot of the Latin American implementation of privatizing their industries via the CIA and Israel and what not. And also I notice that Israel was supplying a lot of the arms over to Chile during that coup-d’etat, as well. With the other article that you have “<strong><i>Israeli War Industry Clashes with US Foreign Policy</i></strong>” the cases of El Salvador, Guatemala. Could you get into that article?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/04/16/israeli-war-industry-clashes-with-u-s-foreign-policy-the-cases-of-el-salvador-nicaragua-and-guatemala/</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh sure. Foreign policy of the United States has not necessarily been consistent in that region and there was a marked difference under President Carter. Now I’m not a Jimmy Carter fanboy, by any means. But, there was a change in policy there, because the US for decades has had a policy, as most people know, of supporting dictators that are agreeable to US corporate interests and there’s not usually a lot of attention paid to the human rights record of those dictators, as long as they have, as long as they go along with the game. And Carter was willing to change some of that. And the US had been supplying arms to some of the Central American countries, <strong>El Salvador</strong> and <strong>Guatemala</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Map of Central America.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when Carter became aware of some of the atrocities going on these countries, he wanted to pull US support away. And he thought that he would be able to bring some stability and some peace to that region. He didn’t end up working in a way.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the reason was Israel. You know, Israel as everybody knows it’s supposed to be America’s number one ally in the Middle East and globally, it’s our best buddy, it’s the fifty first state and so forth. But, Israel wasn’t showing as much loyalty, in these cases, as soon as the Carter administration withdrew support from some of these dictators in Central America, by not providing any more arms and anymore aircraft, the Israelis would just move in.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They have a huge weapons industry and they would move in and supply the arms to these dictatorships and also training the death squads. The Israelis have a huge arms industry from the beginning, because in the beginning of the Zionist project they weren’t necessarily able to get all the arms they wanted. So they developed their own industry.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> They were getting a lot in the beginning. When they first established themselves in ‘48, from, I believe the Czech republic were shipping a lot over to them. I don’t know if you’ve gone into that part.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">No, but they definitely became self-sufficient in the production of arms. And their most famous export is probably that is the Uzi machine gun, that was invented by Uziel Gal. But they branched out into all all sorts of paramilitary training. And a lot of the aircraft that they’re provided by Western governments, they would in turn sell to some of these Third World countries.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Uziel Gal holding his wooden-stocked Uzi (left) and a German MP40. Designed just after the 1948 Arab-Israeli war the, CZ Model 25 inspired, Uzi was adopted by the Israeli Defence Forces in 1951 when the first shipments were issued to Special forces and paratroops. Gal was a German born Jew who had moved to Palestine before the beginning of the Second World War when the state of Israel was incorporated he joined the fledgling IDF, eventually retiring as a major in the 1970s. </span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> They also are the largest drone manufacturer and distributor now, from what I understand.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Basically anything that kills people they will make a buck off of it. So yeah, Central America is really a tragedy and Carter was not effective in that case. I think he deserves to have his good intentions noted at least in that case. Now, the US was still middling overseas under <strong>Carter</strong>. And <strong>Brzezinski</strong>, in Afghanistan for instance, Brzezinski has even admitted in more recent years, that the CIA instigated that trouble in Afghanistan that provoked the Soviet Union into invading it. That was sort of an engineered situation.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23252 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance.jpg" alt="" width="1155" height="784" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance.jpg 1155w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance-600x407.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance-1024x695.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2005-Brzezinski-Jimmy-Carter-and-Cyrus-Vance-768x521.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1155px) 100vw, 1155px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] &#8220;<i>In this photo image from 1977, National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski is seen with US President Jimmy Carter and US Secretary of State Cyrus Vance. President Carter had reversed the policy of Dr. Henry Kissinger and had issued US visa to His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama during 1979.</i>&#8221; <b>Source:</b> <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://wholedude.com/tag/us-president-jimmy-carter/">https://wholedude.com/tag/us-president-jimmy-carter/</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, Carter was not the the warmongering Zionist that our more recent Commanders in Chief who are. And as soon as Reagan came in, in 1980, that was really the death knell for any kind of effective resistance to these Zionist plots in America. That was when he brought in all the neo-cons and and so the US support for all of these horrible murderers and dictators and death squads was resumed.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> So you talk a little bit about El Salvador with <strong>Colonel [Sigifredo] Ochoa</strong>. Could you talk a little bit about him.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ochoa was a guy who had received training from the Israelis and that’s their specialty, the search and destroy technicians. <strong>Ochoa</strong>, he was basically, just a monster, he was just massacring people. And he expressed his admiration of the Israelis.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2006-Salvadoran-warlord-Sigifredo-Ochoa.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23253 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2006-Salvadoran-warlord-Sigifredo-Ochoa.jpg" alt="" width="544" height="331" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Salvadoran warlord Sigifredo Ochoa: apt pupil of Israeli extermination tactics</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Another guy in Central America who was a big admirer of the Israelis was Manuel Noriega. And Noriega, when he was taken down by Bush one, the guy who was basically second in command, became the eminence griese of the Noriega administration, a man named Michael Harari who was an Israeli Mossad agent. So that that’s really a chapter of the history of the Americas that doesn’t get a lot of attention is how Israel had it’s fingers in all of this. All of the dictatorships, of these dirty wars and so forth.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> So we’re tying two different articles together now, the “<i>Michael Harari, Yair Klein, and the Zio-Colombian Cocaine-Carnage Connection</i>”. That’s another article that we’re kind of touching upon now. Could you go back towards the Israeli war industry clashes with US policy a little bit more, just to paint a bigger picture.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">OK. Well, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Could you talk about the AFL the CIOs, the unions in this article. And how the aid was terminated from US?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. The Israelis were involved in a lot more than and just supplying arms. They were also involved in undermining the labor movements in these countries and they were involved in some pretty, for the times, sophisticated domestic surveillance technology implementations. They were selling these computer systems to more than one of these Central American governments and these were, in a way, sort of the testing ground for the <strong>Patriot Act</strong> and some of these 1984 style domestic spying operations. I mean, at the time they were testing all of this, these systems in these Central America countries and nobody cared because it was a Third World. So in the end, that’s not our problem, right?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it was a bad situation and the Israelis were basically complicit in the rounding up and murder and imprisonment of any sort of dissidents. And these people, of course, would be characterized as radicals or communists and they were just people who opposed the the governments that they were living under, which were kowtowing to the Globalist interests.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[70:10]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I covered a little bit about the computer systems for spying devices and keeping track of all the people who could potentially be enemies of the plots controlling these different. Third World countries. Now, have you gone into any of the School of the Americas where a lot of these Latin American militants are trained in America, I think in, what, Georgia? I think that’s where it’s located. But they changed the name of it recently, but still, the same system in place.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">No I didn’t write about that specifically in one of my articles. What I was writing about in the <strong>Michael Harari</strong>, <strong>Yair Klein</strong> piece was about how the Israelis specifically were providing training to Colombian drug lords.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2010-Yair-Klein.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23256 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2010-Yair-Klein.jpg" alt="" width="616" height="354" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2010-Yair-Klein.jpg 616w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2010-Yair-Klein-600x345.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 616px) 100vw, 616px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] &#8220;<i>Yair Klein is a former lieutenant colonel in the Israeli army, who established a private mercenary company called Spearhead Ltd. Through Spearhead Ltd, Klein provided arms and training to armed forces in South America, Lebanon, and Sierra Leone. Klein and his company have been accused of training the death-squads of drug traffickers and right-wing militias in Colombia in the 1980s. Klein was convicted by judicial authorities in Colombia for training several members of Colombian paramilitary groups and the militias of drug traffickers such as Gonzalo Rodríguez Gacha and Pablo Escobar Gaviria in 1987. Klein was convicted in 2001 by a Colombian court, and the Colombian government made unsuccessful attempts to obtain his extradition from Israel</i>.&#8221; Source: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://america.pink/yair-klein_4859480.html">http://america.pink/yair-klein_4859480.html</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2008-Noriegas-Hitler-portait.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23254 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2008-Noriegas-Hitler-portait.jpg" alt="" width="580" height="737" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/03/26/michael-harari-yair-klein-and-the-zio-colombian-cocaine-carnage-connection/</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s that’s the theme of some of the these articles, is that they don’t care who they do business with. They will do business with anybody even, even the ostensible enemies of their putative best, you know, greatest ally in the world. They’ll, you know, as soon as the US turns it’s back, there’s no loyalty there whatsoever. There’s no reciprocity of fellow feeling at all with these people.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2009-Mike-Harari.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23255 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2009-Mike-Harari.jpg" alt="" width="614" height="479" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2009-Mike-Harari.jpg 614w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2009-Mike-Harari-600x468.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 614px) 100vw, 614px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Mike Harari, a former Israeli Mossad agent on Israeli TV in 1990.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so the US had this supposed war on drugs going on, and I’m not going to get into that to the extent to which, &#8230; It was not exactly with they advertised it as being. But, the Israelis were, if you believe the Washington report on Middle East affairs. They published an article in which they argued that this Mossad agent, Michael Harari who is second in charge in Panama under <strong>Manuel Noriega</strong>, that he was actually involved in shipping drugs from Colombia into the US. So, I mean there’s clearly a conflict of interest. That’s the theme of all of these Israeli involvements in Latin America. There’s a consistency to their opposition to and their profiteering from the failure of US policies in these countries.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2012-George-H.-W.-Bush-with-Noriega.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23257 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2012-George-H.-W.-Bush-with-Noriega.jpg" alt="" width="793" height="377" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2012-George-H.-W.-Bush-with-Noriega.jpg 793w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2012-George-H.-W.-Bush-with-Noriega-600x285.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2012-George-H.-W.-Bush-with-Noriega-768x365.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 793px) 100vw, 793px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] General Manuel Noriega with then Vice President (and former CIA Director) George H. W. Bush. As a CIA asset and drug-runner he was military dictator of Panama from 1983 to 1989, until he was removed from power by the United States during the invasion of Panama.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> And then in your article it says that <strong>Noriega</strong> had undergone military and intelligence training in Israel, jumping five times with Israeli troopers. And like uganda’s disposed dictator, Idi Amin, probably wore his Israeli paratrooper wings on his uniform for many years afterwards.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Noriega was a great admirer of the Israelis. He liked the Israeli style and even the name that he gave to his army was modeled after the Israeli Defense Forces. He called them the Panamanian Defense Forces [PDF] . So there was a conscious effort on his part to emulate what the Israelis had done, and I’m sure that <strong>Michael Harari</strong> had a lot to do with it. He’s described in in newspaper articles, you’ll see him described as an advisor to Noriega. But I’m not convinced that he wasn’t the one running the country.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1945-Idi-Amin-Noriega-Israeli-paratropper-wings.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23236 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1945-Idi-Amin-Noriega-Israeli-paratropper-wings.jpg" alt="" width="644" height="689" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1945-Idi-Amin-Noriega-Israeli-paratropper-wings.jpg 644w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1945-Idi-Amin-Noriega-Israeli-paratropper-wings-600x642.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 644px) 100vw, 644px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Both Noriega and Idi Amin wearing their Israeli paratrooper wings.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right. And then Noriega even sent his kids to a Jewish community’s prestigious Alberto Einstein day school and to an Israeli kibbutz one summer. Noriega also employed other Israeli security experts in the Harari organized PDF, which in effect became the Noriega administration.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, and what’s so absurd about this, is that in the run up to the takedown of the Noriega government, there were these columnists in American newspapers talking about the horrible anti-semitism in Panama. And the most hilarious episode was when the US invaded and they took Noriega’s compound and there was supposedly this big portrait of Adolf Hitler, that they found in this office.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the idea, of course, was that the US had stopped another Hitler and there was a new Hitler on the rise! And that’s always the justification for these interventions abroad. It’s always a new holocaust looming on the horizon or something. If you go to Google newspapers, “<i>news dot Google dot com</i>” I believe, you can find these old articles. And there’s one where some columnist is talking, comparing it to Germany in the ‘30s and so forth, and it was such a perilous situation for them there. It was just a total fraud.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[75:15]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> So, another key role, Harari may have played in smuggling Colombian drugs into the United States. There are other Israeli connections to Colombia and to the Medellin cartel in particular. 1989 NBC aired a videotape that showed Israeli mercenaries training Colombian drug cartel assassins. It’s crazy!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. And you can find some snippets about that on YouTube, and you can find a little bit about <strong>Yair Klein</strong>. I’m not good with these Israeli names. Yes that guy, again he’s just another one of these in numerable Israeli low-lifes and monsters who just pop up throughout the Third World and in Latin American particular. He was training armies for these Medellin drug cartels. These were hit squads that would go out and kill people and it’s all they were doing. Again, you get the absurd excuses in the mainstream media and newspaper articles at the time, were quoting Mr Klein and some of his associates as saying that:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Well all we were really doing in Colombia was training these farmers to defend themselves against cattle rustlers</i>” or something.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They couldn’t even come up with a better story than that. And I mean, it was still obvious what they were up to down there.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> This is a really in-depth article that everybody should read. I’m going to share these links and the show description. I usually have, I haven’t done that yet but these articles are well researched with a lot of sourced information with even videos that cover some of the things we’re talking about, in more depth. So, please, people read these articles. It’s worthwhile. I know it’s history, you know, already happened, that doesn’t pertain today, but at the same time it just paints a picture of what’s going on today. It’s pretty much the footprint of, this blueprint, that they go off of and they just keep repeating it, over and over again in other areas.</p>
<p>We were going to cover Trumps connections with a lot of these different groups, as well. Let’s get into Trump, since he is the Republican nominee.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2020-Thank-You-Lord-Jesus-for-President-Trump.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23258 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2020-Thank-You-Lord-Jesus-for-President-Trump.jpg" alt="" width="1008" height="669" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2020-Thank-You-Lord-Jesus-for-President-Trump.jpg 1008w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2020-Thank-You-Lord-Jesus-for-President-Trump-600x398.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2020-Thank-You-Lord-Jesus-for-President-Trump-768x510.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1008px) 100vw, 1008px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] “<i>Thank You Lord Jesus for President Trump</i>”</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, sure. I’ve written a number of articles about Trump and I have taken a little bit of heat for that.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Of course.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> [laughing] But, it’s difficult to see how anybody can turn a blind eye to it. I mean, this guy’s jewish connections, zionist connections, make <strong>George W Bush</strong> look like <strong>Father Coughlin</strong> and, you know. I mean, I don’t even know where to start. I mean <strong>Roy Cohn</strong> isn’t even the only person allegedly connected with child prostitution rings to be connected with Trump.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23259 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire.jpg" alt="" width="933" height="1223" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire.jpg 933w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire-600x786.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire-781x1024.jpg 781w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2021-Roy-Cohn-“Legal-Executioner”-cover-of-Esquire-768x1007.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 933px) 100vw, 933px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Roy Cohn, the “<i>Legal Executioner</i>” on the cover of Esquire magazine, Dec 5, 1978.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Other figures, trafficking in underage sex slaves who’d been tied to Trump is <strong>Ghislaine Maxwell</strong>, who is the daughter of a British publisher and Mossad spy named <strong>Robert Maxwell</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2022-Jewess-Ghislaine-Maxwell-with-Donald-Trump.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23260 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2022-Jewess-Ghislaine-Maxwell-with-Donald-Trump.jpg" alt="" width="664" height="677" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2022-Jewess-Ghislaine-Maxwell-with-Donald-Trump.jpg 664w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2022-Jewess-Ghislaine-Maxwell-with-Donald-Trump-600x612.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 664px) 100vw, 664px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Jewess Ghislaine Maxwell with Donald Trump</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> He’s also been involved in real estate deals with a man named <strong>Felix Sater</strong>. Felix Slater is a really interesting figure. At one time he had an office in a Trump building and he had a business card that listed him as a member of the Trump organization and as an advisor to Trump.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2023-A-montage-image-of-Trump-and-Felix-Sater.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23261 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2023-A-montage-image-of-Trump-and-Felix-Sater.jpg" alt="" width="819" height="460" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2023-A-montage-image-of-Trump-and-Felix-Sater.jpg 819w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2023-A-montage-image-of-Trump-and-Felix-Sater-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2023-A-montage-image-of-Trump-and-Felix-Sater-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 819px) 100vw, 819px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] A montage image of Trump and Felix Sater.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this guy is tied into “<i>Deep State</i>” activities as well. This man Felix Sater, he’s weird and he’s gotten himself into some legal trouble. But at the same time he seems to have a, “<i>get out of the jail free card</i>”. He’s one of these shady characters who is a made man of sorts. He apparently has been involved in work for the CIA.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[80:00]</b></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s a video on YouTube of a ceremony which he was named by Chabad of Port Washington’s “<i>Man of the Year</i>”. I think it was for 2014. In this, it’s a bizarre video, because it’s this rabbi, it’s Felix Sater’s rabbi going on about how Felix Sater is some kind of secret agent, and he’s apparently done work for the CIA in all these countries and he’s some kind of kosher James Bond, apparently. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2024-Sater’s-rabbi-Chabad-of-Port-Washington’s-“Man-of-the-Year”.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23262 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2024-Sater’s-rabbi-Chabad-of-Port-Washington’s-“Man-of-the-Year”.jpg" alt="" width="661" height="660" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2024-Sater’s-rabbi-Chabad-of-Port-Washington’s-“Man-of-the-Year”.jpg 661w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2024-Sater’s-rabbi-Chabad-of-Port-Washington’s-“Man-of-the-Year”-600x599.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 661px) 100vw, 661px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Sater’s rabbi talking about Chabad of Port Washington’s “<i>Man of the Year</i>”. <b>Link</b>: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSpFtCmoD5o</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, Trump, even Trump has tried to distance himself from this Sater character. And there was a lawsuit, I believe a class action lawsuit filed against Sater, his company. And it was from investors in a building that was ostensibly going to be a Trump Tower and Trump, …</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If you don’t know this, if your listeners don’t know this they should. </span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Trump is basically a front for other people’s money. That’s what he does professionally. Fronts for other people’s money. He’s a money launderer and Trump’s involvement with the Sater deal was basically nominal.</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> It was minimal and these investors had been led to believe that Trump was the mover behind it and it was going to be some glamorous respectable deal and these people found out that Sater was really the guy behind it. He was involved in all of this unsavory business. And one of the allegations they make against him in their filing, is that he was apparently mixed up with child prostitution even, and this may have been some kind of blackmail.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Roy Cohn was pretty much involved with that too.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. So this is a pattern in Donald Trump’s life. He’s mixed up with these people. And if you mention this on Twitter, if you bring some of this up and some of these these Trump supporters, they just, they don’t want to hear it and then their response I get sometimes is:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Oh well, Trump’s his own man. He’s independent, he’s a billionaire! How are these people going to control Trump?</i>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well even if you believe that, well, what does it say about him, in that he consistently associates with these types of individuals?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Well, you can’t use that guilty by association card!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Right, but Donald Trump is one of the the biggest rabbit holes I’ve ever come across in that the connections with this guy is just endless.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Right. Exactly. Just with the casinos alone. Just skimming that takes place, money off the top that’s unreported that can be done, you know, he can do anything with investments and like what you’re saying, the money launderers as well.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah I think you brought up the <strong>Michael Collins Piper</strong> article, “<strong><i>Who Towers Behind Trump?</i></strong>” in which he talks about somewhat, some of his beginnings with, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23263 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg" alt="" width="623" height="824" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg 623w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper-600x794.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 623px) 100vw, 623px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] http://americanfreepress.net/who-towers-behind-trump/</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Resorts International.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Resorts International, which was a mob, CIA., &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b><strong>Meyer Lansky</strong>, <strong>Rothschild</strong>, <strong>Rockefeller</strong>, all the above.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. But the myth of course is that he’s this self-made man and he’s so good at business and making deals. It’s almost a magical ability here, his deal making, it’s just kind of, it’s this superficial mystique. That’s been cultivated. People swallow it.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> All you really have to do, I mean, you don’t really have to just do that, but there are so many other angles to look at with Trump. But a lot of different avenues will open up if you look into the lobby group, the BMSK lobby group., you know, the <strong>Roger Stone</strong> and <strong>Charlie Black</strong> and <strong>Paul Manafort</strong>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2026-Felix-Sater-with-Nixon-tatto.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23264 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2026-Felix-Sater-with-Nixon-tatto.jpg" alt="" width="594" height="839" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Roger Stone’s Nixon tattoo. “<i>Not long ago, Stone went to the Ink Monkey tattoo shop in Venice Beach and had a portrait of Nix- on’s face applied to his back, right below the neck. “Women love it,” Stone said.</i>” <b><i>New Yorker</i></b> magazine, June 2, 2008.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Link</b>: http://stonezone.com/docs/NewYorker-Toobin-Stone.pdf</span></p>
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<p>Their lobby group pretty much was involved in a lot of the different overthrows of governments and replacement of dictators and the drugs, the oil, the gold, all that. Even in the Ukraine, that you mentioned earlier, Paul Manafort pretty much put in a pro-Putin President at one point where. Where, he was being outed and overthrown he was loading up gold bullion and headed over to Russia. Its crazy.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I don’t remember where I read it, but I remember there was some article I read. I think it was on a jewish website or maybe an Israeli site. There was this article with the title something to this effect, “<i>Why Trump is the the Most Israeli US Presidential Candidate</i>”. He was the most jewish or the most Israeli.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2028-American-jews-who-support-Trump.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23265 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2028-American-jews-who-support-Trump.jpg" alt="" width="762" height="838" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2028-American-jews-who-support-Trump.jpg 762w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2028-American-jews-who-support-Trump-600x660.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 762px) 100vw, 762px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.jta.org/2016/03/08/news-opinion/politics/to-understand-the-american-jews-who-support-trump-read-this">http://www.jta.org/2016/03/08/news-opinion/politics/to-understand-the-american-jews-who-support-trump-read-this</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The article points out how he had all this chutzpah and he had this brash style that was quintessentially Israeli. And the great irony is, that’s what appeals to all these the these 14/88ers or these, you know, NRxers on Twitter. What they don’t realize is it’s these kind of sleazy Israeli qualities to him that are appealing to them. And they see it is some kind of, you know, “<i>manoferian</i>”, some kind of macho thing that recalls, you know, “<i>Aryan greatness</i>”. Some kind quintessential European sensibility he expresses, that&#8217;s not. It’s just kind of this tacky showbiz persona.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> He’s kind of, I said this earlier in a tweet with another guy, Robert Revolt, that Trump is the <strong>John Gotti</strong> 2.0</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2032-John-Gotti-mugshot.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23268 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2032-John-Gotti-mugshot.jpg" alt="" width="575" height="574" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>John Joseph Gotti, Jr.</b> (October 27, 1940 – June 10, 2002) aka “<i>The Teflon Don</i>” and  “<i>The Dapper Don</i>” was the former boss of the Gambino Crime Family. He is well known for taking control of the family by having his boss, Paul Castellano, and underboss killed. In 1991, Gotti&#8217;s underboss, Sammy Gravano, would become a government informant and help the FBI bring Gotti to justice.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Link</b>: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/John_Gotti">http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/John_Gotti</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh, definitely.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Roy Cohn actually represented John Gotti too, by the way.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, the mafia connections are not, I haven’t written about those. But, yeah, that stuff is there and that’s why I said he’s just the biggest rabbit hole. I mean, you look into one of these affiliations of his, it opens up another one. And the guy is so saturated with filth by association. I mean there’s just, I don’t see how people can continue to convince themselves that:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Oh, he’s just tricking them. He’s going to sneak up on them and, you know, turn the tables and then he’s going to really show them, and he’s going to build that wall and Israel’s finished and, &#8230;</i>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Well, a lot of these people who like Trump, who support him, they might realize that he’s got these connections and they know, well, if you’re this rich and famous you are going to have those connections. But so what! He’s going to build the wall! He’s going to kick the beaners out!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I’ve heard those arguments they say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Well he’s in showbiz, so you have to understand he’s going to have those connections</i>” or, “<i>He’s in casinos, so that’s the kind of people you have to deal with, when you’re working in casinos, or in real estate, you have to work with gangsters and and so</i>”.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, why do we need a casino magnate to be president, then? Maybe we should look in some other field, you know, where we don’t have to have a candidate who’s connected with a child sex slave trafficker and gangsters and Zionist prime ministers?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah. I don’t know if you saw that video were Trump purchased the yacht from <strong>Adnan Khashoggi</strong>? One of the largest arms dealers in the world at one point.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23270 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht.jpg" alt="" width="1196" height="795" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht.jpg 1196w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht-600x399.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2034-Adnan-Kashoggis-daughter-Nabila-is-next-to-her-fathers-yacht-768x511.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1196px) 100vw, 1196px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Adnan Kashoggi&#8217;s daughter, Nabila, is next to her father&#8217;s yacht, 86 m (282 ft) in length.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2033-video-on-Trump-buying-arms-dealers-yacht.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23269 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2033-video-on-Trump-buying-arms-dealers-yacht.jpg" alt="" width="636" height="638" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2033-video-on-Trump-buying-arms-dealers-yacht.jpg 636w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2033-video-on-Trump-buying-arms-dealers-yacht-600x602.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 636px) 100vw, 636px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Link</b>: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM3dcaVZh3k</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, a lot of people have seen the commercial that Trump did for <strong>Benjamin Netanyahu</strong>. That’s not even the extent of it and it just goes on. And one of the connections that I found most ridiculous and laughable was his friendship with <b>Stewart Rahr</b>, the pharmaceuticals magnate.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2035-Donald-Trump-Stewart-Rahr-and-Russell-Simmons.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23271 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2035-Donald-Trump-Stewart-Rahr-and-Russell-Simmons.jpg" alt="" width="743" height="543" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2035-Donald-Trump-Stewart-Rahr-and-Russell-Simmons.jpg 743w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2035-Donald-Trump-Stewart-Rahr-and-Russell-Simmons-600x438.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 743px) 100vw, 743px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Donald Trump, <b>Stewart Rahr</b> and Russell Simmons at the <b>25th Annual Great Sports Legends Dinner</b> benefitting <b>The Buoniconti Fund</b> held at New York&#8217;s Waldorf Astoria, Sep 27, 2010.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Stewart Rahr, if your listeners don’t know, he’s a billionaire. He’s the guy who made a bundle off of <em><strong>Cipro</strong></em> when there was the anthrax scare in 2001. Cipro was administered allegedly to the White House and to the President, Vice President. And obviously everybody had to have it, you know, when the anthrax story, you know, “<i>Death to America</i>”, “<i>Death to Israel</i>” anthrax letters were in the news. Stewart Rahr made a bundle off that. Cipro’s been criticized, it’s gotten some bad press in the last few months. It’s apparently is not as effective as it was previously claimed and some people said it’s even caused paralysis in them.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2037-Rainer’s-article-“Trump-and-the-Number-One-King-of-Fun.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23272 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2037-Rainer’s-article-“Trump-and-the-Number-One-King-of-Fun.jpg" alt="" width="578" height="794" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] icareviews/Rainer’s article, “<b><i>Trump and the Number One King of Fun</i></b>”. <b>Link</b>: <a style="color: #008000; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/trump-and-the-number-one-king-of-all-fun/">https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/trump-and-the-number-one-king-of-all-fun/</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Wow!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And other problems. Stewart Rahr, he’s probably the most grotesque of the Trump associations, with the possible exception of Cohn. This guy Stewart Rahn is a huge IDF booster. He’s a big sponsor of them. And he’s also, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> All right, we’ll be right back with the last half hour, everybody.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>BREAK</b></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[91:40]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Welcome back everybody and if you want to call in the number is 747 222 8807. We have a half an hour for your phone calls. So we’re covering Trump just now and his unsavory connections, if that’s the best way to say it. So, Rainer If you want to continue on the pharmaceutical billionaire.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. <strong>Stewart Rahr</strong>, his nickname for himself is the, “<i>Number one king of all fun</i>”. He also calls himself, “<i>Stewy Rahr Rahr</i>”. He’s like the most stereotypical tacky, sleazy, shekel rubbing semite you can imagine. And it’s not just that he’s an Israel booster and it’s not just he’s a billionaire. The guy is really a complete sleaze bag.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He divorced his wife a few years ago. And he made his own porno film in a limousine with a couple of girls. And he sent it to all his friends, all these important New York people. He sent this porno, starring himself, to all these people. And just guy, this guy hobnobs with B<strong>ill Clinton</strong>. He has access to all these figures of prominence.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2038-Tennis-legend-Jimmy-Connors-Stewart-Rahr-President-Bill-Clinton-and-Mike-Miken-in-New-York.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23273 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2038-Tennis-legend-Jimmy-Connors-Stewart-Rahr-President-Bill-Clinton-and-Mike-Miken-in-New-York.jpg" alt="" width="718" height="424" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2038-Tennis-legend-Jimmy-Connors-Stewart-Rahr-President-Bill-Clinton-and-Mike-Miken-in-New-York.jpg 718w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2038-Tennis-legend-Jimmy-Connors-Stewart-Rahr-President-Bill-Clinton-and-Mike-Miken-in-New-York-600x354.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 718px) 100vw, 718px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Tennis legend Jimmy Connors, Stewart Rahr, President Bill Clinton and Mike Miken in New York.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The man’s business card is a fake unit of currency, it’s like a fake dollar, hundred or thousand dollar bill, or something. It’s got a picture of him, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump playing golf together.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2039-Stewart-Rahr’s-business-card-featuring-Donald-Trump-and-Bill-Clinton.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23274 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2039-Stewart-Rahr’s-business-card-featuring-Donald-Trump-and-Bill-Clinton.jpg" alt="" width="571" height="779" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Stewart Rahr’s business card, featuring Donald Trump and Bill Clinton. <b>Link</b>: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2009/08/introducing_stewie_rah_rah_bea.html#">http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2009/08/introducing_stewie_rah_rah_bea.html#</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Nice!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he has replaced the name, “<i>God</i>” with his name on it. It says, “<i>In Stewart We Trust</i>”. [laughter] It tells you a lot about how he views himself and his place in the world. And what’s especially sinister about this man’s, Stewart Rahr, connection with Trump. Is that Stewart Rahr was one of the figures behind the, “<i>Should Trump Run dot com</i>” web site back in 2011. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2040-May-2011-screenshot-from-waybackmachine.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23275 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2040-May-2011-screenshot-from-waybackmachine.jpg" alt="" width="983" height="957" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2040-May-2011-screenshot-from-waybackmachine.jpg 983w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2040-May-2011-screenshot-from-waybackmachine-600x584.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2040-May-2011-screenshot-from-waybackmachine-768x748.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 983px) 100vw, 983px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] May, 2011 screenshot from waybackmachine., re “<b><i>Should Donald Trum Run for President</i></b>” <b>Link</b>: https://web.archive.org/web/20110720042057/http://shouldtrumprun.com/welcome/</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You may recall there were some a little bit of noise back in 2012, whether or not Trump would run. And there had been this web site started, “<i>Should Trump Run dot com</i>” and he was testing the waters, gauging public interest in possible Trump candidacy. And Stewart Rahr was behind it. He was involved with a couple of New York lawyers. I believe their names were, <strong>David Schwartz</strong> and <strong>Bradley Gerstmann</strong>. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"> <a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2041-Trump-with-attorneys-David-Schwartz-left-and-Bradley-Gerstman.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23276 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2041-Trump-with-attorneys-David-Schwartz-left-and-Bradley-Gerstman.jpg" alt="" width="555" height="331" /></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Trump with attorneys David Schwartz (left) and Bradley Gerstman.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">These guys are in a practice together, and what’s interesting about these two lawyers, is that they’re not just involved with Rahr. They advertise on the web site for their firm, for the practice, that they they’ve been involved with both Clintons and they’ve also been involved with George Bush.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean you can find photo ops on the web site with these guys hanging out with Hillary Clinton. And that would, I mean, that would, &#8230; If you happen to be partial to the theory that Trump is in there as a kind of decoy way to get Hillary elected, that’s something you can point to. I have not committed to a theory of what exactly Trump’s game is. I’m open to different theories.</span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">I know Hipster Racist [a commenter on Ayran Skynet] is convinced that Trump is strictly a Zionist agent, in that he intends to get elected and he intends to implement a hardcore Zionist administration.</span></strong></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I agree with that!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’m open to that interpretation. I have not necessarily relinquished the possibility that he’s just going to take a dive for Hillary. I think it could still happen.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> There’s still the notion that this dominion [?] theology. The, you know, the Old Testament rule of law would become the rule of law of America. I think that’s still a plan to be implemented with the evangelical right. You know, how the Noahide Laws were passed under poppy Bush under a different act or bills. So, and with the Latin America region, I forgot to point out, while all these replacement of leaders were taken place, a lot of the evangelicals were involved. Also, they produced a bible, similar to your <strong>Scofield</strong> [bible] I would imagine, the <strong>White Cliffs</strong> bible translators that started teaching these Latin Americans to be pro Israel., you know, started teaching them that Jews are the God’s chosen, just like the evangelicals over in America. So, that’s part of the agenda down there as well, to be pro Israel.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23277 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible.jpg" alt="" width="453" height="640" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] &#8220;The <b>Scofield Reference Bible</b> is a widely circulated study Bible edited and annotated by the American Bible student <b>Cyrus I. Scofield</b>, which popularized dispensationalism at the beginning of the 20th century. Published by Oxford University Press and containing the entire text of the traditional, Protestant King James Version, it first appeared in 1909 and was revised by the author in 1917.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The Scofield Bible had several innovative features. Most important, it printed what amounted to a commentary on the biblical text alongside the Bible instead of in a separate volume, the first to do so since the Geneva Bible (1560). It also contained a cross-referencing system that tied together related verses of Scripture and allowed a reader to follow biblical themes from one chapter and book to another. &#8220;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source</b>: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Reference_Bible">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Reference_Bible</a>.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;The <b>Scofield Reference Bible</b> was not to be just another translation, subverting minor passages a little at a time. No, Scofield produced a revolutionary book that radically changed the context of the <b>King James Version</b>. It was designed to create a subculture around a new worship icon, the modern State of Israel, a state that did not yet exist, but which was already on the drawing boards of the committed, well-funded authors of <b>World Zionism</b>.&#8221;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> http://www.rense.com/general60/zcre.htm</span></p>
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<p>I talked to somebody how they were surprised at how many of these Brazilians were pro Israel and it’s because of this bible translation that took place, for these people to be pro Israel like that.</p>
<p>So more on Trump, more connections. What do you know, about Jeffrey Epstien?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Jeffrey Epstein his has been connected with Trump, both in Florida and New York. They’ve been known to dine together and there have been calls between them. And most notoriously, Trump’s name was found in Epstein’s little black book, his book of contacts. And these are presumably people who would have been clients, of one sort or another. And the inference people have made is that Trump, you know, may have partaken of the, little &#8220;<strong><i>Lolita Express</i></strong>” on one or more occasions. And Trump, of course, will distance himself from that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23278 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane.jpg" alt="" width="1192" height="709" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane.jpg 1192w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane-600x357.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane-1024x609.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2045-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Lolita-Express-plane-768x457.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1192px) 100vw, 1192px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Jeffrey Epstein&#8217;s &#8220;<b><i>Lolita Express</i></b>&#8221; plane, a Boeing 727 jet, was reportedly set up with a bed where guests had sex with young girls.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<b>7 Things You Need To Know About Trump And Sex Slave Island</b></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Here are seven connections between Trump and Epstein&#8217;s sex slave endeavors that you need to know about:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">1.Trump himself has said that Epstein is “<em>a lot of fun to be with,</em>” adding that he admired the sex offender&#8217;s affinity for beautiful women “<em>on the younger side.</em>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">2. Trump was named in Epstein’s “<em>little black book.</em>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Epstein’s “<em>little black book</em>” was stolen by a former employee in 2004. The book, nicknamed &#8220;<em>The Holy Grail</em>&#8221; by the employee, revealed the name of Donald Trump and listed “<em>14 phone numbers including emergency numbers, car numbers, and numbers to Trump&#8217;s security guard and houseman.</em>” </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">3. Trump has allegedly flown on Epstein’s private plane — a hot spot for under-age sex orgies.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">4. Both Trump and Epstein are named as sex abusers in a case with an under-aged girl.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">5. Epstein admitted to knowing Trump under oath, and curiously pled the fifth to Trump attending sex parties with underage girls.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">6. At least one of Epstein’s underage sex victims was recruited from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago — which he frequented often.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">7. Trump was subpoenaed in 2009 for his connection to Epstein’s under-age sex slave rings. Trump has denied ever being served.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source</b>: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo">http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But again, it’s just it’s one in a number of episodes in connections that establish a pattern. There’s just too big a bit of a pattern with this guy to ignore any of this. And that I don’t think it’s something you can just laugh off. And it’s disturbing that so many people are willing to take this in stride.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2046-Trump-Epstein-and-the-Clintons.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23279 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2046-Trump-Epstein-and-the-Clintons.jpg" alt="" width="698" height="443" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2046-Trump-Epstein-and-the-Clintons.jpg 698w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2046-Trump-Epstein-and-the-Clintons-600x381.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 698px) 100vw, 698px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Trump</b>, <b>Epstein</b> and the <b>Clintons</b>.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<b>Jeffrey Edward Epstein</b> (born January 20, 1953) is an American financier. He worked at Bear Stearns early in his career and subsequently formed his own firm, J. Epstein &amp; Co. In 2008 Epstein was convicted of, and served eighteen months in prison for, soliciting an underage girl for prostitution. He is a registered sex offender.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b><i>New Yorker </i></b>magazine: Epstein likes to tell people that he&#8217;s a loner, a man who&#8217;s never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to <b>Donald Trump</b>, a different Epstein emerges. &#8220;<i>I&#8217;ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,&#8217;</i>&#8216; Trump booms from a speakerphone. &#8220;<i>He&#8217;s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it &#8212; Jeffrey enjoys his social life.&#8221;</i>”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> http://www.chartword.com/2015/07/donald-trump-clintons-and-jeffrey.html</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Here’s an article:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>Roy Cohn two man he mentored in the art of manipulation, Roger Stone and Donald Trump. When Trump was still in his twenty’s, he hired Cohn and began to move in the same circles. Both were members Le Club, a private hot spot where the rich and famous and social climbers can meet without suffering the presence of ordinary people. Later when Studio 54 served the glitter and cocaine crowd, &#8230;</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>Where did the cocaine come from, ha? With everything that the Israelis were doing in Latin America, I would imagine.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Cohn and Trump were there to. Cohn modeled the style for Trump that was, one part, ‘</i><b><i>friendly gossip</i></b><i>’ and one part, ‘</i><b><i>menace</i></b><i>’. Cohn looked and sounded like someone who could hurt you if you crossed him. Trump kept the photo of the glowering Cohn, so he could show it to those who might be chilled by the idea that this man was his lawyer. </i></p>
<p><i>It was Cohn who introduced Trump to a young political operator named Roger Stone in 1979. Stone had cut his teeth in the Nixon campaign of ‘72 where he posed as a student socialist who donated to an opponent and then made the contribution public. The fake scandal help scuttle anti-war congressman Pete McCloskey’s presidential bid and ensured that Nixon was around to give America three more years of a disastrous war and Watergate.</i></p>
<p><i>Brilliant and perpetually aggressive, ‘</i><b><i>Attack, attack, attack!</i></b><i>’ is his motto. Stone teamed up with Trump to create a xxx, a presidential bid in 1987. And the two have been political partners ever since. Like Cohn, Stone is a risk taker. He and Trump got caught breaking campaign rules as they fought the development of Indian casinos. And State officials levied a hefty fine. Stone counsels clients to, ‘</i><b><i>Admit nothing, deny everything, launch counterattacks!</i></b><i>’</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2030-Trumps-Mobbed-up-Mentor-Roy-Cohn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23267 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2030-Trumps-Mobbed-up-Mentor-Roy-Cohn.jpg" alt="" width="745" height="768" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2030-Trumps-Mobbed-up-Mentor-Roy-Cohn.jpg 745w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2030-Trumps-Mobbed-up-Mentor-Roy-Cohn-600x619.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 745px) 100vw, 745px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Article, “<b><i>Trump’s Mobbed Up, McCarthyite Mentor Roy Cohn</i></b>”. <b>Link:</b>  <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/23/trump-s-mobbed-up-mccarthyite-mentor.html">http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/23/trump-s-mobbed-up-mccarthyite-mentor.html</a></span></p>
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<p>Hmm, sounds familiar.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>He once told a reporter that it was his practice to always get even. When somebody screws you he added, ‘</i><b><i>When someone screws you, screw them back, but a lot harder</i></b><i>’. Trump’s version of the Stone credo, as he told me, is to hit back ten times harder whenever he feels attacked.</i></p>
<p><i>Like McCarthy and Cohn and Stone, Trump loves to gossip and trade in information. He to, cultivates an air of menace to keep his opponents off guard, and he hates to apologize or back down. And like Cohn, he insists that the kind of talk his critics consider offensive is really just the truth expressed without the social amenities. This is an ingenuous tactic for someone who wants to be free to say almost anything, even if it’s insulting, and get away with it.</i></p>
<p><i>Much of what Trump says and does come straight out of the Cohn, Stone playbook, concluding his eagerness to make people uncomfortable and confused. As a campaign consultant Stone advises candidates to open multiple battlefronts. And as a source for reporters he often mystifies anyone who seeks to understand what he’s up to.</i></p>
<p><i>For his part, Trump is a man prone to outrageous statements that defy fact checking. And our fascination with them stems, at least in part, from the delightful challenge of trying to figure out when he’s serious and when he’s putting us on.</i>”</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds like Trump did learn a lot from Cohn.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2029-Roy-Cohn-with-US-flag-1986-the-year-of-his-death.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23266 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2029-Roy-Cohn-with-US-flag-1986-the-year-of-his-death.jpg" alt="" width="944" height="938" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2029-Roy-Cohn-with-US-flag-1986-the-year-of-his-death.jpg 944w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2029-Roy-Cohn-with-US-flag-1986-the-year-of-his-death-600x596.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2029-Roy-Cohn-with-US-flag-1986-the-year-of-his-death-768x763.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 944px) 100vw, 944px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Roy Cohn, 1986 (the year of his death).</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> And again, it’s the fascination with him, and what people like about him, is really just kind of it, an, it’s an internalized Jewishness in his character.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s kind of expressing this big brash, unapologetic Israeli sensibility.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Another suspicious zionist connection that he has that we haven’t talked about yet is, Bill Diamond, William J Diamond. Are you familiar with him?</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, I’ve heard of Diamond. Wasn’t he part of JP Morgan at one point, or IMF, or something once? I’ve heard that Diamond name before.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23263 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg" alt="" width="623" height="824" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper.jpg 623w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2025-Who-Towers-Behind-Trump-by-Michael-Collins-Piper-600x794.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 623px) 100vw, 623px" /></a> <a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2047-icareviews-rainer’s-article-“Trump-Diamond-Sater-Maxwell-the-Mossad-and-the-Florida-Overloards”-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23320 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2047-icareviews-rainer’s-article-“Trump-Diamond-Sater-Maxwell-the-Mossad-and-the-Florida-Overloards”-1.jpg" alt="" width="575" height="605" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] icareviews/rainer’s article, “<b><i>Trump, Diamond, Sater, Maxwell, the Mossad and the Florida Overloards</i></b>”. <b>Link</b>: https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/03/18/trump-diamond-sater-maxwell-the-mossad-and-the-florida-overlords/</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">OK, the Diamond that I’m talking about, Bill Diamond was was a Giuliani guy, OK. He was the Commissioner of Administrative Services under Rudy Giuliani from ‘94 to 2001. And he was another guy who, a few years ago, was was putting himself behind a possible Trump run in 2011, which is the same year that Stuart Rahr had this web site put up, “<i>Should Trump Run?</i>”, at the same time this guy Bill Diamond, who is a big Zionist operator. He operates out of Palm Beach, now. He was a New York guy, he’s operating at Palm Beach.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2048-Rudy-Giuliani-and-Bill-Diamond-outside-Palm-Beach-Town-Hall.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23281 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2048-Rudy-Giuliani-and-Bill-Diamond-outside-Palm-Beach-Town-Hall.jpg" alt="" width="701" height="627" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2048-Rudy-Giuliani-and-Bill-Diamond-outside-Palm-Beach-Town-Hall.jpg 701w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2048-Rudy-Giuliani-and-Bill-Diamond-outside-Palm-Beach-Town-Hall-600x537.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 701px) 100vw, 701px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Rudy Giulian</b>i and <b>Bill Diamond</b> outside Palm Beach Town Hall.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he had some position in local government down there. But he’s the guy who was pushing for Giuliani’s notorious bunker in the years leading up to 9/11. Jerome Hauer was allegedly the mastermind behind that. Hauer has denied it. Hauer was the manager of Emergency Services in New York. But they had this costly, extravagant, bulletproof, catastrophe proof headquarters for Emergency Services installed on the 23rd floor of Tower 7 of the <strong>World Trade Center</strong> complex.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2052-WTC-Building-7-with-emergency-command-center-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23282 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2052-WTC-Building-7-with-emergency-command-center-.jpg" alt="" width="610" height="767" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2052-WTC-Building-7-with-emergency-command-center-.jpg 610w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2052-WTC-Building-7-with-emergency-command-center--600x754.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 610px) 100vw, 610px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>WTC Building 7</b> was the dark flat-topped 47-story skyscraper immediately north of the World Trade Center super-block, across Vesey Street. Its designation as 7 World Trade Center is somewhat misleading: whereas WTC 1 through 6 surrounded the WTC plaza and were completed in the 1970s, Building 7 was 300 feet from the plaza and its construction did not begun until 1985. It was of an entirely different architectural style than the other six buildings. It was completely destroyed late in the afternoon on September 11th.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Building 7 was privately owned from the beginning, in contrast to the other six buildings, which were publicly owned until the summer of 2001. Building 7 was formerly the headquarters of the junk-bond firm Drexel Burnham Lambert, which contributed to the savings and loans collapse and $500 billion bailout of the latter 1980s.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Emergency Command Center</b></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The 23rd floor of Building 7 had received 15 million dollars&#8217; worth of renovations to create an emergency command center for then-Mayor Rudolf Giuliani. The features of the command center include:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">* Bullet and bomb-resistant windows</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">* An independent, secure air and water supply</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">* The ability to withstand winds of 200 mph</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">These renovations were applied only to the 23rd floor. The command-center bunker was the the subject of much ridicule when it was created.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b>Source:</b> <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/wtc7.html#ref2">http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/wtc7.html#ref2</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span">Was WTC 7 used as the &#8220;<em>control center</em>&#8221; to oversee the “<i>controlled demolition</i>” of buildings WTC 1 and 2, and therefore, needed to be destroyed in turn, to remove all the evidence? — </span></b>KATANA.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Diamond, this man who’s now a Trump backer, and who is a crony of Rudy Giuliani’s. He was next up in lobbying for that. So again, there are not only these Zionist connections, but Zionist 9/11 connections to Trump.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2053-The-World-Trade-Center-complex-with-WTC-7-pointed-out.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23283 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2053-The-World-Trade-Center-complex-with-WTC-7-pointed-out.jpg" alt="" width="673" height="968" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2053-The-World-Trade-Center-complex-with-WTC-7-pointed-out.jpg 673w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2053-The-World-Trade-Center-complex-with-WTC-7-pointed-out-600x863.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 673px) 100vw, 673px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] The <b>World Trade Center</b> complex before it was destroyed by <b>Organized jewry</b> as part of their plan to launch their “<b><i>War of Terro</i></b>r” on the world.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Was <b>WTC 7</b> used as the &#8220;<em>control center</em>&#8221; to oversee the “<i>controlled demolition</i>” of buildings <b>WTC 1</b> and <b>2</b>, and therefore, needed to be destroyed in turn, to remove all the evidence? — KATANA.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Absolutely! Did you see that article, I think, “<a href="http://thezog.info/"><strong><i>The Zog</i></strong></a>” I think is a commenter on your Ayran Skynet website? You recognize, “<i>The Zog</i>”?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I’m familiar with him.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> OK. He put together, “<i><a href="http://thezog.info/who-controls-donald-trump/"><strong>Who controls Donald Trump</strong></a>?</i>”. He put a small list together [all Ashkenazi Jews unless indicated] , <strong>Michael Cohen</strong>, <strong>Gil Dezer,</strong><strong>Michael Dezer</strong>, <strong>Alan Fishman</strong>, <strong>Alan Garten</strong>, <strong>Michael Glassner</strong>, <strong>Jason Greenblatt</strong>, <strong>Carl Icahn</strong>. That’s somebody involved with 9/11 to, right? <strong>Charles Kushner</strong>, <strong>Jared Kushner</strong>, <strong>Yael Kushner</strong> [née <strong>Ivanka Trump</strong> — Orthodox Jewish convert] , <strong>Richard LeFrak</strong>, <strong>Corey Lewandowski</strong>, some question whether or not he’s jewish or not. <strong>Stephen Miller</strong>, <strong>Steven Mnuchin</strong>, <strong>Sam Nunberg</strong>, <strong>Stewart Rahr</strong>, you mentioned. <strong>George Ross</strong>, <strong>Phil Ruffin</strong>, <strong>Felix Sater</strong>, you mentioned. <strong>Allen Weisselberg</strong>, <strong>Steve Wynn</strong>, casino magnate, mafia. <strong>Lara Yunaska</strong>, and that’s it!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1990-Who-Controls-Trump-MONTAGE-Ver-2.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23241 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-1990-Who-Controls-Trump-MONTAGE-Ver-2.gif" alt="" width="813" height="1137" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image &#8211; click to enlarge] Who Controls Donald Trump? [Ver 2]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[105:15]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. Of those names that you mention, the most interesting, that I found in connection with Trump with 9/11 is <strong>Michael Glassner</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2056-Article-“From-AIPAC-to-Trump-Michael-Glassners-Journey”.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23284 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2056-Article-“From-AIPAC-to-Trump-Michael-Glassners-Journey”.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="791" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2056-Article-“From-AIPAC-to-Trump-Michael-Glassners-Journey”.jpg 640w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2056-Article-“From-AIPAC-to-Trump-Michael-Glassners-Journey”-600x742.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Article, “<b><i>From AIPAC to Trump: Michael Glassner&#8217;s Journey</i></b>”. Link: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/from_aipac_to_trump_michael_glassners_journey">http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/from_aipac_to_trump_michael_glassners_journey</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Michael Glassner is Trump’s National Campaign Director, and interestingly, he was also working for the New York and New Jersey Port Authority, in the years leading up to 9/11. And he was involved specifically in the privatisation of the World Trade Center complex, which placed it in the hands of <strong>Larry Silverstein</strong> and <strong>Frank Lowry</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23285 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg" alt="" width="729" height="378" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg 729w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy-600x311.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 729px) 100vw, 729px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Larry Silverstein, super-Zionist UJA board member and Frank Lowy, ex-Haganah terrorist, both multi-billionaires with very close ties to the state of Israel, acquired the lease for the WTC in late July of 2001, hardly 6 weeks before the attack. <b>Link</b>: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.lostscribemedia.com/news/911-israels-masterpiece/">http://www.lostscribemedia.com/news/911-israels-masterpiece/</a></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Lucky Larry!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. So there’s a connection there. And Michael Glassner was a Southwest Regional Director for AIPAC, previously. And he was also involved in the campaigns of <strong>Bob Dole</strong> and <strong>Sarah Palin</strong> and, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I see that. He was a political aid for Sarah Palin. And, by the way, the Council for National Policy, who vetted Sarah Palin to be the Vice President for John McCain where a lot of these people meet up two or three times a year with the Council for National Policy. And that’s a lot of what takes place behind the scenes on who’s going to be vetted and what not.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2060-Corey-Lewandowski-left-Dan-Scavino-center-and-Michael-Glassner.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23286 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2060-Corey-Lewandowski-left-Dan-Scavino-center-and-Michael-Glassner.jpg" alt="" width="630" height="418" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2060-Corey-Lewandowski-left-Dan-Scavino-center-and-Michael-Glassner.jpg 630w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2060-Corey-Lewandowski-left-Dan-Scavino-center-and-Michael-Glassner-600x398.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Corey Lewandowski, left, Dan Scavino, center, and Michael Glassner are among the highest-paid senior staffers on Donald Trump’s campaign.</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Glassner has given a few interviews, he’s given a couple of interviews, but he remains a fairly enigmatic character. He’s possible more disturbing than Rahr, just because he, &#8230; Rahr puts himself out there. Rahr’s somewhat clownish. Glassner is a serious, more formidable personality and he’s, more reserved. And we don’t know as much about him. In one of these interviews he gave, he did mention, or it did come out in this profile of him, that he still keeps in touch with his former superior at the Port Authority, whose name was <strong>Ronald Shiftan</strong>. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2061-Ronald-H.-Shiftan-then-acting-executive-director-of-the-Port-Authority.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23287 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2061-Ronald-H.-Shiftan-then-acting-executive-director-of-the-Port-Authority.jpg" alt="" width="677" height="265" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2061-Ronald-H.-Shiftan-then-acting-executive-director-of-the-Port-Authority.jpg 677w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2061-Ronald-H.-Shiftan-then-acting-executive-director-of-the-Port-Authority-600x235.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 677px) 100vw, 677px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Ronald H. Shiftan, then acting executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so he maintains his ties with these people who were involved with the privatization of the [World] Trade Center and basically placed it in Israel’s hands. And he’s apparently tight with this guy Shiftan.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Shiftan is interesting because his family has long standing ties to the <strong>Eisenbergs</strong>. <strong>Lou Eisenberg</strong> is a name that may be familiar to some of you listeners who’ve looked into the Zionist connections to 9/11.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> OK, and recently <strong>Sheldon Adelson</strong> pretty much endorsed Trump, as well. Saying,</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>Well he’s a republican, I’m going to support him</i>”.</p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2062-Jewish-casino-operator-Sheldon-Adelson.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23288 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2062-Jewish-casino-operator-Sheldon-Adelson.jpg" alt="" width="639" height="491" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2062-Jewish-casino-operator-Sheldon-Adelson.jpg 639w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2062-Jewish-casino-operator-Sheldon-Adelson-600x461.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 639px) 100vw, 639px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Jewish casino operator Sheldon Adelson.</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. One of his papers, his Israeli papers endorsed Trump.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, that was the recent one, I think, over the one that he purchased recently over in Las Vegas, right? Where he’s pretty much telling people:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>You’re going to be fired unless you play ball and pretty much disseminate information the way that I tell you to</i>”.</p></blockquote>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, so, to sum up on Trump, I mean, I understand the initial enthusiasm. I can understand some of the joy that people show in this kind of implicit White Nationalism that he represents. But, I mean, it’s so obviously fake and insincere that, I mean, all of these, &#8230; Even if you didn’t know about all these suspicious connections and even if you were only following the race at a kind of a superficial surface level. Even the statements he makes, and the inconsistency of his positions, totally counterbalances and basically negates any of his good points.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2063-Trump-having-a-bad-hair-day.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23289 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2063-Trump-having-a-bad-hair-day.jpg" alt="" width="472" height="447" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Trump having a bad hair day.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Basically all he’s done is dog whistling. He’s made a few throwaway politically incorrect statements that have gotten all these people, you know, excited. It’s just a sign of desperation to me that people will allow themselves to be so enthralled by such pittances. He’s just throwing scraps to people and they are lapping it up.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[110:16]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yeah, the theory that I have always, not always, but, what I have been repeating lately, is that the right wing is the sucker punch, the uppercut that you’re not expecting. You know, you’re going to expect that left hook, coming from the left, you know, side of things, because they’re obviously anti-White and promote cultural Marxism and degeneracy, openly. Whereas, the GOP, they try to keep their degeneracy in secret with their pedophilia and male escorts, and all the other things that they are tied into. But a lot of the major wars that have taken place, have taken place under the right wing, where they’ll soften it up. Pretty much say the things that the voters want to hear, you know, the rhetoric, and then there’s that sucker punch when you least expect it. It’s like a steam release valve for them.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, well <strong>George W Bush</strong>, when he was running in 2000, he was really running as more of a foreign policy moderate. If you go back and look at his debates with <strong>Al Gore</strong>, he was saying things like:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Well I don’t see why we ought to be telling the rest of the world how to run their affairs</i>” and, you know, “<i>I don’t see that we ought to be in the business of nation building</i>”.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he was saying these pretty reasonable sounding things about foreign policy. And then it’s a total flip flop. And a lot of people defend Trump as some kind of foreign policy realist, but he has no consistency there whatsoever. In 2011 he endorsed the toppling of <strong>Gaddafi</strong>. Now he pretends to be opposed to it. He was on the record in 2003 voicing some misgivings about the Iraq adventure, but he also made, kind of ambiguous statement on the Howard Stern Show, I think in 2002, that he might have thought it was a good idea.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as late as 2015, he, I think it was at a CPAC conference. He was being interviewed by Sean Hannity. And I think <strong>Sean Hannity</strong> was asking him about the proper response to ISIS. And Trump even said, in this interview, that we, “<i>Might need some boots on the ground</i>”. And yet you have all these people, you know, Ricky Vaughn, I like Ricky Vaughn, but I mean, ever since the Trump thing, I don’t even want to look at the account any more. It’s just twenty four seventh’s GOP politics and, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I stop following, because, &#8230;</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b> I<span style="color: #0000ff;">t is just Trump, all Trump. I cannot get excited about endless, like, “<i>Ted Cruz sucks!</i>” Tweets.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> He gets thousands of retweets for stuff that is low information, just the hype, kind of like the rhetoric that Trump puts out. He’s kind of like a repeater for Trump and spokesperson for him.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2064-An-August-2015-tweet-by-Ricky-Vaughin.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23290 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2064-An-August-2015-tweet-by-Ricky-Vaughin.jpg" alt="" width="516" height="577" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] An August 2015 tweet by Ricky Vaughin</span></p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> And, you know, Ricky Vaughn, he can be a winning guy when he wants to. I mean, I like the guy, basically, but I mean I can’t do all his Trump stuff.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I agree.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ricky Vaughn, I mean Ricky Vaughn tweeted that we need Trump to fix our foreign policy. I mean, he actually tweeted it. And here is Trump saying he might need, saying as recently as last year, that we might need some boots on the ground. More of these wars, you know, send more of our boys over there to die. That might fix things.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Exactly, and with his speech that he did, related to military policies, foreign policies, not too long ago, I think it was last week. The Alt Right is grabbing the one ounce of words that he said, as far as being, “<i>America First</i>”. Whereas the rest of the speech was quite the opposite with [laughing] some, &#8230;</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I didn’t pay attention to that speech. I really feel like I’ve said, all I need to say about Trump in my posts. I’m kind of burnt out.t information is all out there. There’s enough grime on Trump that anybody who who is interested in the truth, it’s there for them to see.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> It sure is.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer:</b><span style="color: #0000ff;"> I just can’t keep hitting him them over the head with this stuff, if they’re impervious to it.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[115:00]</b></span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> I did the same thing for the Ron Paul. Different campaign in 2008 and 2012 and people were calling me a hater, and cointelpro, and all these different ad hominems, because I wasn’t supporting their guy, while I was trying to share all the different links the guy has, and all his information, all the hype is all rhetoric, it’s a steam release valve. And it’s kind of like a repeat of this election cycle. People latch on to their cult of personality figures and they don’t want to hear anything else. They just want to have their blinders on and follow the line for their glorious leader.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, I will say this for <strong>Ron Paul</strong>. I was still Ron Paul guy in 2012, as late as that. And I, you know, I’m not now. But compared to Trump, Ron Paul is the real deal in that I think Ron Paul, even though I don’t really subscribe to his theories. I mean compared to Trump he was comparatively a good man.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> An angel!</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think. Ron Paul is genuinely interested in world peace. I don’t think he knows how to go about it. And he has something of a half truther when it comes to some of the terrorism.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2065-Ron-Paul-and-his-“blowback”-mantra.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23291 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2065-Ron-Paul-and-his-“blowback”-mantra.jpg" alt="" width="747" height="748" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2065-Ron-Paul-and-his-“blowback”-mantra.jpg 747w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2065-Ron-Paul-and-his-“blowback”-mantra-600x601.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 747px) 100vw, 747px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Ron Paul and his “<i>blowback</i>” mantra.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He sticks to the “<i>blowback</i>”. He’ll be talking, “<i>blowback</i>” to the day he dies. On his deathbed he’ll be talking about, you know:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Osama bin Laden wouldn’t have attacked us, you know, if we had a peaceful foreign policy</i>”.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He writes one or two columns every week, it’s either the “<i>blowback column</i>” or the we need, “<i>sound currency</i>”. I used to read that guy’s columns, I don’t anymore, it’s boring.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> Yes. Other than that, we’ve got only a couple more minutes. What would you like to close with? And I would like everybody to visit your website. So I’m going to share these links on the show tonight. Wat would you like to share with the rest of the world tonight?</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, you might follow my blogmates on twitter. There’s <strong>Hipster Racist</strong> @hipsterracist. And then there’s, <strong>Don Logan</strong>. @DonLoganFOS, is his Twitter handle. And then I’m on there at <strong>icareviews</strong>. And then <a href="https://icareviews.wordpress.com/">icareviews.wordpress.com</a>, <a href="https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/">aryanskynet.wordpress.com</a>.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> All right everybody this is the end.d we will see you next week. Thank you very much Rainer for joining me.</p>
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<p><b>Rainer: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s been a pleasure.</span></p>
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<p><b>Nick Spero:</b> All right. Have a good night.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>[117:47]</b></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #800080;">SONG: “<strong><i>The End</i></strong>” by The Doors.</span></p>
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