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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Patriotic Weekly Review</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">with Tim Murdoch</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Thu, Jun 15, 2023</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this video (Episode 214 of Patriotic Weekly Review) Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, is with special guest Tim Murdoch.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The main topic was on the existence, or not, of UFOs and how certain figures like Tucker Carlson, The New York Times, military people and other establishment mouthpieces, could be using it for some propaganda purpose.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">CONTENTS</span></h3>
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<p><a href="#MC20230615-1">Upcoming Events</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-2">Superchats and Donations</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-3">Introducing the Guest, Tim Murdoch</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-4">Producing Content</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-5">Mark’s Videos – No Jump Cuts and Scripted for Legal Reasons</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-6">Being on Twitter</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-7">Keith Woods on Twitter</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-8">The Pros and Cons of Twitter</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-9">There’s “Civil War” in America Now</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-10">Child Murder by Immigrant in France and Its Chilling Effects</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-11">Tim’s View on Killings by Migrants</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-12">Being Banned from Talking About Anti-White Events</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-13">Anti-White Violence Becoming Less ‘Shocking”</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-14">American Empire and Instability</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-15">The Collapse of America</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-16">China and the Shift in Global Power</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-17">The American Empire Setting Fires Around the World</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-18">Indictments Against Trump?</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-19">The Empire Knows Only One Language</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-20">Mark on the Witch-Hunt Against Trump</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-21">4d Chess Move – Israel and UFOs!</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-22">Trump Accused of Having Top Secret Documents</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-23">Religion, Israel, 4D Chess, Secret Documents</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-24">Tucker Carlson Talking About UFOs</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-25">Psychological Operations</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-26">Mark on Aliens</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-27">Tucker Carlson Wants to Make Money So Talks About Safe Crap</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-28">Not Suggesting There’s Going to Be Aliens</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-29">Mark – No, I’m Not Following Any of This</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-30">They Are Going to Use This UFO Stuff Somehow</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-31">Mark Disagrees – It’s Going to Be More White Genocide</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-32">When is This UFO Thing Happening?</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-33">Tucker Has the Voice, Millions of Ears</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-34">Donald Trump as a Saviour?</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-35">Information is Not Produced for No Reason</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-36">They’re out to Get Trump Because He Gives People Hope</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-37">Crushing Trump Won’t Scare Genuine Nationalists</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-38">Making a Conspiracy Documentary for Bitchute</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-39">Superchats — The Death Penalty</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-40">Superchats – Cantwell</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-41">Superchats – Jazzhands McFeels</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-42">Superchats – Immigration Reform in Japan</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-43">Superchats – Islam vs Anti-Whiteism</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-44">Superchats – Lauren Southern’s Marriage Break-Up</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-45">Superchats – Tucker is a Fed</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-46">Outline of Spoof Video</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-47">A 24 Hour Stream</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-48">Superchats – Nottingham Killings</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-49">Superchats – Mike Graham and Nigel Farage</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-50">Superchats — The Invaders Won’t Stop Coming</a></p>
<p><a href="#MC20230615-51">What We Need to Do to Succeed</a></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Hello everybody, and welcome to Patriotic Weekly Review episode number 214! And we are here tonight live on Odysee and DLive.</p>
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<p>Now, before we get into the show, and before we introduce our special guest, who will be with us for the next couple of hours, I just want to say I’ve got a few things planned for the rest of the week.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-1"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Upcoming Events</span></h3>
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<p>The first thing I’ve got planned is I have a pre-recorded video coming out next this Friday and it is about the woman, Carla Foster, who murdered her 34 week old baby and the one that all the politicians are obviously supporting and saying that she shouldn’t have been sent to prison. I’ve got a video coming out on that on Friday. A lot of people have asked me bits and pieces about that. I’ve been emailed about it several times, so I thought I’d make a video on it a bit different. You can’t make a video on the same thing every week and I think this is a really important topic.</p>
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<p>I will also be back with Dr. David Duke on Friday at 04:00 p.m., UK time. And I might do some kind of stream on Sunday night, but I’m not sure what that will be yet. Maybe somebody would like to give me some ideas.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-2"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Superchats and Donations</span></h3>
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<p>Now, if you’re watching tonight, and if you want to contribute to my work, that would be super and I would be very, very grateful of that. Remember, it is your Superchats that allow me to work full-time for this movement. So any Superchats are very welcome. If you can Superchat, you can do it through Entropy or Odysee. You can send a financial donation and any message attached to that financial donation will be read out live on tonight’s stream and it’ll be answered by myself and Tim here. Now, you can also donate via crypto-currencies. All my crypto links are in the description beneath this video, whether you’re watching on Odysee or if you’re watching on replay on BitChute. That’s where the two replays will be.</p>
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<p>So if you have to duck out during the stream, you can catch the rest of them either here on Odysee, if that’s where you’re watching it, or on BitChute. And you can also, as I said, send donations via a mixture of crypto-currencies.</p>
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<p>And if you want to write to me, you can write to me at mark@thefallofwesternman.com.</p>
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<p>So that’s how you can get in touch with me. You can also send donations via other means and if you want to send them sort of via cash or any other means, you can write to me there at mark@thefallofwesternman.com. And that also goes for any crypto-currencies you can’t see because I do have other wallets, but you might not be able to see the particular wallet that you want.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-3"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Introducing the Guest, Tim Murdoch</span></h3>
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<p>Now, we are very lucky to have this special guest with us here tonight. It is Tim Murdoch. Now, Tim Murdoch is a legend in the nationalist sphere. He obviously came up with the incredible Anti-racist Hitler <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[animation]</strong></span>, and I think he’s being deplatformed from almost every mainstream website and every mainstream payment processor the world over. And they don’t do that to people who aren’t a threat. They only do that to the best of us. So he certainly got into that club.</p>
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<p>Now he’s got an amazing show which is here on Odysee, and he is one of the content creators, like myself, that’s pushing this particular platform. And I’ve been lucky enough to be with him on his show, which is called White Rabbit Radio.</p>
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<p>So please, if you haven’t already, make sure you are subscribed to this chat because he is an absolutely top fella. I love being on his show when I get an invite and I love it when he comes on this show. He’s always got a lot of good things to say. So, Tim, how are you doing this evening? What have you been up to and do you have anything you want to tell us?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I am just booking out shows, which is what I do. I’m trying to find interesting new people to interview. You guys are always free to send me guest ideals. Obviously, I got to get a hold of you to have you on next month, just talk about some things. But I’m going to have on some people that I haven’t had on or I haven’t talked to in quite a while. I know someone contacted me to have on Woodlander. I don’t know Woodlander, but I saw something in the chat, some people in the chat knows them.</p>
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<p>So I would like to have on some interesting new guests. Laura Tower, I’ve never had on Laura Tower. And I know she has stuff she sells, so she would be a good guest to have on people like coming on my show if they have things to sell, because you usually sell some things. We do have tea drinkers and coffee drinkers and that type of thing. I’m pretty sure she’s still selling that, isn’t she?</p>
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<p>But anyways, that’s what we’re doing. I’m busy booking guests and booking guests is actually a full-time job. Very few, I don’t know anyone that has someone booking guests for a show in our sector these days. It’s like a full-time job that you could use the secretary for!</p>
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<p>So that’s basically what I do. I do shows and I book shows and in between taking care of everything.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Nobody gets the secretary, mate! You’re just dreaming now!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Randbot does! Randbot actually has an assistant, Comrade Pond, and she books all kinds of stuff for him.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Really?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I don’t know how.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Is he that big?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> He’s a legend <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>! Without her I don’t think he could do a show!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Is he the guy that used to be on Ethan Ralph’s show, that used to be, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> He was on there for a short period of time until they blew up. But I had him on for a guest with Jim Goad just recently, and it was a pretty big show. He came on with Jim Goad. And no, Randbot has an assistant. He’s the only one. And your response was Jim Goad’s response:</p>
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<p>He has an assistant more competent than him, which is what you got to have. She actually gets him up for work. His work is streaming, of course, like, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> She’s more competent than him? That’s a pretty low watermark to reason.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> That’s true. He would say that.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> So you’re looking for an assistant?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> No, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I don’t know.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, you’re going for the attractive female assistant, or the less attractive, but more efficient?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> That might cause some problems. We’ll go for the competent assistant. The competent e assistant that can book shows by the zillion. No, but so far I just do everything myself. I don’t know anything other than in this business. That’s why I didn’t do the animations for a while, because I couldn’t do everything by myself. And they were dependent on massive amounts of money. If you had to hire people for any little bit of art, it’s just very difficult.</p>
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<p>If you cannot do everything on your own in this business, you’re going to have problems very quickly. I found out. It’s very difficult to keep small teams together, even. It’s just difficult.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-4"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Producing Content</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I’ve always done my own shows, my own show graphics, my own sort of promotional stuff. And I found it easier that way because you’re not really relying on anyone. And you do it at your own pace and, you know, where you are. And unless you pay somebody I found that people can sometimes be a little unreliable.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah. So I quite like doing it myself. Same with all my videos. I write the scripts, I record them myself.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> You actually do script? You don’t just wing those.</p>
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<p>I mean, they do look very professional, but I just always thought you had something because you’ve always done the same kind of video, and they’re always very good, they’re very informative. They don’t go over the line, they don’t go under the line. They’re just like spot on! I mean, you could run those on Fox News, you could run those anywhere and they would be fine.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s the type of thing we have to have.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, it’s kind of difficult because those sort of videos that I do, they were big news on YouTube, so you put them on YouTube and you could end up with hundreds of thousands, even millions of views, which wasn’t uncommon for me. I had videos that did a million. And I regularly hit that six figure number, and videos that didn’t hit the six figure number often crept up there over time, because a lot of my videos were evergreen.</p>
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<p>But what I will say is it is harder moving to platforms like BitChute and Odysee and doing videos which are more normie friendly, because if you go on to BitChute, the kind of regular fodder there is. How can I say it? It’s more targeted as a specific type of person.</p>
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<p>Whereas I always felt my videos went down better with sort of the normies on YouTube than they do with BitChute.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-5"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Mark’s Videos – No Jump Cuts and Scripted for Legal Reasons</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I think your videos are I always thought they were like a real kind of like a bona fide pro-White version of Paul Joseph Watson, you know what I mean? I think they’re higher quality than Paul Joseph Watson videos.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah. No jump cuts, mate. No jump cuts. I can do 15 minutes, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Jump cuts can be good. I think you could do some stuff like that.</p>
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<p>But anyways, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No, I hate jump cuts! Any man that can’t speak for 15 minutes into a camera without a jump cut shouldn’t be making those videos. There’s nothing more annoying than people who record everything shouting for 10 seconds and then jump cut, jump cut, jump cut! You should be able to reel this stuff off. That’s an important thing. And I find it really engaging when I listen to somebody who can just talk and can articulate themselves clearly for sort of 5, 10 minutes on the topic.</p>
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<p>Now, I do script my videos. That’s for legal reasons, because you got to have them checked beforehand. And I do think it’s really important that we always tread that line. And the thing with scripting a video is you make sure you don’t miss out on anything. But with most of those videos, I pretty much know what I’m going to say and if I’m doing it live on camera, I can just do it from sort of five or six bullet points.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Yeah, I think that, &#8230; What’s funny about jump cutting, most people don’t know this, but I’ve never seen an interview with our side from a mainstream media outlet that doesn’t jump cut something, doesn’t cut things selectively. And it’s kind of like a nasty jump cut. It’s not even a jump cut for effect. Sometimes it is. It’s just kind of like, well, let’s edit this out. Let’s make it look like he said this. And they’re always using these selective editing techniques like the jump cut.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah. I don’t know, it sort of throws me off. I do like well scripted videos as well. My favourite content creator was always Way of the World.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Yeah</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I thought his videos were fantastic, beautifully scripted, well put together, subtle sort of soundtrack, if you like, or sort of etheral sounds in the background. And always really great graphics and statistics up on screen. I don’t know whether he had a team putting those together or if he did them all himself, but they were by far my favourite of any content creator.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-6"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Being on Twitter</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> He’s still on Twitter and he’s doing very well. I follow him on Telegram I’ve offered him, and anytime he wants to come on my show, I really respect his work.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> He doesn’t do live stuff.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I know</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I used to love being on Twitter. And me and him were sort of like, I remember when I had more bloody Twitter followers than him! And now he’s probably on about like 80,000 or something and I’m gutted I’m not there. That was my playground. I love that place.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-7"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Keith Woods on Twitter</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Yeah, Twitter is a good place. No one knows what they can say on there. The good news is that none of the elites do either. Bill Maher was commiserating to Elon Musk that he doesn’t know what he can say. And no one really does, and that’s the way they want it. The banning is totally random and can happen anytime. I’ve been banned maybe three or four times. I always got the count back, but I don’t say anything, I just announce shows on there.</p>
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<p>If you say anything, it seems like, or if you do anything, like over the top, you really have got to do what Keith Woods has done, and that is really toe the line, cross your T’s, dot your I’s, and kind of go down this accessible angle. I kind of think of Keith and I got him coming on, I think, July 7, as almost like a big brain Vdare, where he provides a ladder for people to climb up on, a more down an intellectual theme. The stuff he’s doing on Twitter is very, very good, like the threads informing people various different things. He’s not saying too much, he’s not saying too little.</p>
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<p>But at the same time, he’s got the followers where he’s not going to get banned easily now, and he’s doing something without spurging out. He’s doing what has to be done to get the attention of a Joe Rogan or Elon Musk or anyone.</p>
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<p>Now, obviously, he could say, you can always second guess it and you can always say he should be doing this or that, but that’s something we’ve got to have people doing. If they have that skill set, it’s just very few have the skill set, media wise, to get away with it and to so consistently do it down that particular theme.</p>
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<p>Also, I think he’s new. Had he been around ten years, he couldn’t get away with it.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-8"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Pros and Cons of Twitter</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think the thing with Twitter is, and this is going to take us onto the first topic we’re going to talk about tonight. It’s a place where you can get those huge amounts of views, and I was getting huge amounts of views there.</p>
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<p>And when things happen, it is the best place to have your take instantly out there in the marketplace of ideas. And when something happens, as we saw a few days ago, when a Syrian migrant went berserk in a park in France and started stabbing children and their parents, that’s where you want to be to give your view on that particular issue out to the public.</p>
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<p>But the problem is, with Twitter, you are in that situation where if you make a mistake, if you put your toe over the line or if somebody important, for that matter, just doesn’t like what you’ve said, you can end up getting ratioed and having your account taken down. And I’ve had that obviously now twice. I’ve never been told what I’ve done wrong. I’ve had the account back once. I doubt I’ll be getting it back again.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> You’ll get it back someday. You’ll get it back. I expect everyone to eventually be on Twitter. I don’t know what it’s going to take. That’s just my guess.</p>
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<p>James Edwards, they took down his account, which I couldn’t believe that because his pictures of his family on there, that’s about his most controversial thing is something about Confederacy or something. But it is totally random. No one knows, not even like a section of the elites know.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-9"><span style="color: #ff0000;">There’s “Civil War” in America Now</span></h3>
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<p>And in my opinion, when it comes to America, the North American, there’s basically a civil war. This is just what I’ve concluded. There’s a civil war. And if any given day these two parties are fighting over you, you may or may not be taken down. It depends on who’s at the board that day. Is it someone that’s kind of ignoring your content? Or is it someone that says, okay, these guys want this one taken down, let’s take it down, and we’re just like casualties in a civil war.</p>
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<p>It doesn’t even necessarily even make sense to anybody, whether it be the Bill Mars or whoever else. But it is a civil war of some type. It just hasn’t went like street by street yet. It’s just on media, whether it be Tucker Carlson who is going down that particular road.</p>
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<p>So I do think you’ll get it back. I would stay persistent on trying to get it back. Why they take people down? No one knows.</p>
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<p>I mean, if Bill Myers got to say that, he’s got to really censor himself, he doesn’t know what it takes to and I believe he’s being sincere. I just think it’s like a random thing that the parties at the ADL and places like that depends on who they have at the switch and what faction they represent. That’s my take on it.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-10"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Child Murder by Immigrant in France and Its Chilling Effects</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think it’s an important site to be on and it’s great what Keith Woods has been doing. And when things happen, like, as I said, the incident in France, which is very, very harrowing, and as a parent, I’ve got to say it does change your perception of the world.</p>
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<p>So when I see things like what happened in France, it’s absolutely chilling!</p>
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<p>Because I’ve got a three year old daughter, we regularly go to parks or soft plays or we’re regularly out and about, and sometimes we just go for a walk in the countryside.</p>
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<p>But the idea that you could just be out in a park enjoying the nice hot weather, or you could be just pushing your daughter on the swings and the next minute some migrant comes out of nowhere with a knife and starts stabbing children.</p>
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<p>And obviously he’ll be conveniently “<em>mentally ill</em>” or something like that. It is absolutely terrifying!</p>
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<p>And although that is scary, the fact that now if you talk about that and you articulate in an opinion about that, that can actually lead to its own problems. And that’s the issue with Twitter, you see, because if I was on Twitter, I’d have had to have talked about that. And this isn’t the first time this kind of horrific thing has happened. It certainly won’t be the last.</p>
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<p>I mean, this week alone, we’ve seen similar incidents in both France and here in the UK, in Nottingham, where a man from West Africa stabbed three people to death and then gone into his van and ploughed into other people, causing multiple roads to be locked down. The press have sort of initially said they didn’t have a clue who it was. Now they’ve admitted he’s a West African migrant, but they’ve made big pains to make it known that he was here “<em>legally</em>”, as if that makes a difference.</p>
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<p>I mean, I’m not sure you’d be any happier about having a member of your family stabbed to death if you knew the guy was here legally or illegally, it wouldn’t really matter. The member of your family has been stabbed to death.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-11"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Tim’s View on Killings by Migrants</span></h3>
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<p>But on Twitter you would want to talk about those things. What’s your take on this, Tim? I mean, we do have periods of time where things seem to cool down with incidents with migrants, but then all of a sudden it seems to sort of go pop. And it’s gone pop over the last couple of days. How do you feel about all these things?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I think everything on Twitter at any given moment, everything’s going rip shit. It kind of reminds me of 2015, 2016, to be honest with you.</p>
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<p>The challenge that I have is that there’s parties that need to be on there.</p>
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<p>I mean, I don’t know what I can say, so I just try to keep the account up. And if you’re just retweeting stuff that you find interesting or putting up showtimes, it seems like that has got me by since the last banning.</p>
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<p>But at the same time, we’ve got elements those takes her as hot as the sun that need to be on there. They’re not on there. The Laura Towers and you and Mike Penovich, Warren Balogh.</p>
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<p>I mean, there’s just a lot of people, well, even Kevin MacDonald, Dr. Kevin MacDonald. And it is quite random, but it is the place to be! And after that knife attack, things were going crazy on Twitter.</p>
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<p>This is what’s interesting. It’s typically not so much a high profile account that is delving into controversies these days because everyone thinks they can get banned really easily, right? So no one wants to lose an account with 50k, 60k. I was watching Anthony Akumia, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span> who’s interesting, he follows me. He’s got a giant account on Twitter and typically he over tweets something with a comment but the comment isn’t going to get him banned, right?</p>
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<p>And so that was happening a lot with the knife attacks. And that’s one of the reasons, I think that things are getting so radicalised in America, is that you don’t have really honest discussions. It’s just kind of like all these side discussions and you see this horrible shit all the time, pardon my French.</p>
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<p>And so you’ve got these big names over tweeting something with a pithy comment, but you really can’t have any, like Mark Collett comes out and you could paste your videos up on Twitter now. Mark Collett comes out with a video discussing the knife attack. And Collett’s video is right up on Twitter. And that would be something that would really help us, you know what I mean? With the counternarrative. They’re not allowing a really complete counternarrative. So you just watch these horrific crimes after horrific crimes and then you’ll have these smaller accounts that will just be pillaring things.</p>
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<p>I mean, they will just be going all in, but there’s a lot of spurgery there.</p>
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<p>So it is kind of an interesting place.</p>
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<p>But if you’re not there, you can’t really have the interactions of Elon Musk retweeting you, or chiming in or Joe Rogan. And not that those guys are a big deal other than the type of eyes you’re going to get, you know what I mean, on those particular messages, which is important for us.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-12"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Being Banned from Talking About Anti-White Events</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You see, it bothers me, obviously a great deal that we’re seeing all of this anti-White violence from these migrants.</p>
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<p>But I think what bothers me more is two things. The first is that we are absolutely banned from talking about these things, which makes it hard to discuss them in an open way.</p>
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<p>Now, obviously, we’re on Telegram, we’re on Gab, and those sites are great, especially Gab. I think what they’re doing with Gab is absolutely brilliant! What Andrew Torbis has done there is really good. I think Gab is the closest thing to being Twitter with free speech, far closer than Telegram, which unfortunately there’s so many Fed posters and anonymous accounts and it’s so easy to sign up. It can often be a cesspit full of just trouble causers, whereas Gab just seems to be more genuine and decent people. But largely we are banned about talking about these issues. And that’s the first worrying thing.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-13"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Anti-White Violence Becoming Less ‘Shocking”</span></h3>
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<p>And the second worrying thing is over a period of time, I feel that these knife attacks and these outbursts of anti-White violence by these migrants have become almost so expected that I don’t think people are even shocked about them anymore.</p>
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<p>And obviously there seems to be this almost people have become oversaturated with these stories and I find that amazing. A few years ago when Sadiq Khan was quoted in the press as saying sort of:</p>
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<p>And essentially deal with it. Everyone has to just put it to one side, put it out of their mind. It happens. But that’s a big city thing. He was attacked pretty heavily for saying that and rightfully. So saying that you should just accept that terrorism is part of our lives if we’re going to live in big cities. But what do you think about people becoming oversaturated with these stories and it’s just not having an effect on normies anymore. That these things have happened so often that people are now just taking them as part and parcel of life?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Well, what’s happening in America as the saturation has occurred because you really don’t have a saturation of a counternarrative other than Dems are the real racist, or we can’t talk about racists, playing in the hands of the enemy. We don’t have really someone out there just blasting the anti-White narrative at a big level.</p>
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<p>We have the words out there, we have the phrases out there, but no one’s really taking it up at a very big visible level. I’m sure that’ll happen one morning because where there’s demand, there’s going to be supply.</p>
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<p>But in America what you have is just everyone is kind of looking either leaving or moving to different states or they’re starting to move at the local level or collectively getting together. And I do not know where the powers that be are heading with these various different themes and things like that. But people don’t want to lose their job and they’re trying to think of what can we do? So they’re asking the Right questions. There’s not anyone to take up the counter narrative at a very big level to mobilise to get that type of action that you’re looking for.</p>
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<p>My guess is that’ll happen. Probably unexpectedly and it’ll be pretty crazy when it does. The longer it goes, the more extreme that’ll be. But I have a feeling that’s coming there’s just too much opportunity in it, especially in like unifying some elements of America.</p>
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<p>And you cannot operate an empire. And America is an empire from the top of Canada. North America is an empire from the top of Canada to the bottom of Mexico, right? Depending on where you say it’s a continent, North America. If anyone messes around there Washington and New York and they’re going to be freaking out.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-14"><span style="color: #ff0000;">American Empire and Instability</span></h3>
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<p>And so that is their empire. And their empire is a financial empire, right?</p>
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<p>And so you cannot operate a financial empire indefinitely. You can in the short term, but you cannot operate it indefinitely with these type of instability because you see, it isn’t just Americans and it isn’t just British people watching these knife attacks. These things are like gigantic on Twitter. They’re like millions and millions of views for every single one, nearly. Hundreds of thousands of views from even bullshit accounts putting up these migrant attacks or black on White crime in America, or black on black crime.</p>
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<p>I mean, this stuff is no longer a Western phenomenon. It is a global phenomenon. And let’s face it, a lot of people on the planet are sick of this stuff!</p>
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<p>Look at the reaction of China over Little Mermaid. Now, that reaction is somewhat because just the Chinese, the Han Chinese, and they’re no bullshit. They don’t like seeing, &#8230; People from a high culture and civilisation, do not want to see other cultures and civilisations destroyed, especially if they get the feeling that it’s being done by third parties, need outside elements not playing fair. It’s not like you’re in some war where someone gets beaten, in some stand up war. You’re in some slippery game where someone takes over the media and starts doing some crazy shit. Because they envision that coming to their country too.</p>
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<p>And so when you look at the reactions, really in total, it comes back to the fact that most of these Chinese are watching this crazy stuff on Twitter. They are.</p>
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<p>I mean, they’re not blind. The whole entire world is seeing these crazy crimes over and over again, which creates a great deal of instability and faith in an empire that is all financial services.</p>
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<p>When my grandfather was a boy, financial services in America might have been 4%. Now it’s 40. That’s not reality! That’s insane! Now they’re trying to bring manufacturing back and stuff like that, but the empire has problems and that type of thing. And I don’t know if it’s just a force of nature based on the fact that this stuff is happening with such a prevalent rate because of open borders, because of the anti-White narrative, because of institutional anti-Whiteism, hashtag White genocide, whatever you want to say.</p>
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<p>But the fact of the matter is we’re reaching a cumulative point where it’s just out of control. The catalyst is that a lot of people are noticing it and it is affecting how people view America, which means it’s going to affect how people view the financial oligarchy that runs America and their ability to move long term. You can’t be holding bonds in the empire right now and not asking at behind the doors meetings, what are you going to do about this?</p>
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<p>Because what we see on the streets of America is not exactly a First World Triple A Bond rating. These are questions that are coming up, and they’re coming up aggressively now. Doesn’t matter whether it be from allies like Japan or even the whole entire, quote, unquote:</p>
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<p>So what’s the catalyst to change it? It’ll come. Everything’s in place for the catalyst. We just have to stay on our particular messages, which is what’s got us so much so far. We’ve got the answers. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> We just need to be able to talk to the audiences in a way that, for instance, like Keith Woods is doing now. That’s why we’re kind of dependent on people that don’t have, that haven’t been banned off 100 different processors or something. You know what I mean?</p>
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<p>You got to lay the groundwork and we have to have the mark Collett’s affecting people that are going to go on to affect people because that’s how we get the chain reaction. You can’t ban everybody. And we have a lot more people out there, a lot more talented young guys and ladies than we ever have. And we just have to run our ground game over and over again and let that particular talent express itself down the way that that particular activist, White advocate, whatever you want to call them, deems it appropriate, and then let it shine. And it will happen.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-15"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Collapse of America</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think for me, the idea of the collapse of America or this giant empire, I think we’re seeing that already. Now the thing is though, when people say collapse yeah, I think everyone expects a collapse to be something that’s very sudden, sort of it happens, boom! But this is very slow. And I would say it’s sort of the difference between an earthquake and a lava flow. Everyone thinks it’s going to be like an earthquake. Boom! It happens. There’s massive carnage and everything changes instantly, but a lava flow changes everything. But it takes a huge amount of time for that lava flow to cover a significant portion of the land and to bring that change.</p>
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<p>And I think this big global change has been happening for some time and I think it’s been accelerated significantly. As, you know what my opinions are on the war in the Ukraine. But I do believe that that significantly changed things. And it’s changed the balance of power because the first time in history we’ve had countries break with America and say:</p>
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<p>Now that would have been unthinkable in the 1990s, it would have been unthinkable in the early 2000s, but now it’s happening. And I think that is a real marker of the shift in global power.</p>
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<p>But I also think we’re seeing a shift in global power, and people always have a go at me because I speak highly of the Chinese. But the Chinese do seem to be embracing a form of racial nationalism and they also seem to be embracing a form of traditionalism and a value system that nationalists would potentially envy here in the West.</p>
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<p>Because when it comes down to it, we do want people to be rewarded for doing the right thing. I know their system is a system of Social Credit, but we want some form of Social Credit for kids that study hard and visit their grandparents and help old people across the street. We want to return to moral values. And I think what we’re seeing now for the first time since the end of the Second World War is a genuine, &#8230; Well, really, since the fall of the Berlin War, we’re seeing a new global counterbalance to the judeo-American State. But this global counterbalance is basically a traditionalist global counterbalance, as it would have been had another side won the Second World War. So rather than it being a Marxist counterbalance, it’s a traditionalist counterbalance. I think that’s very, very important.</p>
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<p>And I think this will definitely aid in America’s sort of slow decline.</p>
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<p>And when America’s decline comes, I don’t know what you feel about this, but I feel when it comes, I feel the more homogeneous White states will be the ones that survive the economic and social turmoil.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-17"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The American Empire Setting Fires Around the World</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Well, the Empire, it goes back to, I think, the Patriot Act in my mind, where they backed into North America and they’ve been on what I would say as a long term strategic retreat into their base of North America. And into this strategic retreat what they’ve been doing is trying to burn down various different systems, burn down various different competitors, various different competitor systems all around the planet.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s what they’re trying to do around the Eastern bloc. They’re trying to set a fire between Europe, what they call the dirtball countries, Zbigniew Brzezinski, the Eastern block. They’re trying to set the biggest fire they can between Europe and Russia, and hopefully they can take down Russia, whatever. And what they’ll try to do is set a gigantic fire, and the Taiwanese may fight as much as the Ukrainians. I don’t know what’s going to happen there. And they might yet set a giant fire in the Middle East. I wouldn’t be surprised on those three fronts because you got Iran, of course, you got China, you got Russia, the axis that is leading this particular planet against the Empire.</p>
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<p>And so the Empire has backed into a strategic base.</p>
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<p>And as it’s backed into the strategic base, post Trump well, with the election of Donald J. Trump, the gloves came off. They’re no longer pretending anything! Everyone’s getting the White nationalist treatment, including the former president.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> How do you feel about the latest indictments?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I am somewhat conspiratorial about it. He is hated by various different factions that have colluded against him, all the various different reasons he is hated. What was most unique is Tucker Carlson’s show last night, because Tucker Carlson, who I have differences with, obviously was not wrong last night in talking about one of the reasons they hate him, about speaking the truth on various different issues regarding war. The war with Iran, the war with Iraq and the Weapons Of Mass Destruction. That wasn’t inaccurate. He could have went further, but he’s Tucker Carlson. So I am curious to see who’s coming on his side. What other things they’re talking about besides Donald J. Trump in these particular times? Because I think big moves are afoot. Obviously. It’s unprecedented, so the outcome will also be unprecedented.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-19"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Empire Knows Only One Language</span></h3>
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<p>They’re pretty much destroying, the North American elite are actually destroying their very system in front of their eyes. I mean, all the pretences are gone. All the pretences are gone. Everyone knows the score that’s smart enough to know the score on planet Earth. It’s just where are the catalysts going to come from? They seem to only understand one thing, and that’s what scares me as we come into maybe a potential flashpoint with, God forbid, Russia, China, or whatever is going to happen in the Middle East.</p>
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<p>And as we come into this flashpoint, the powers that be are articulating over and over again that they only understand one thing, there’s only one language they speak, and sooner or later, there’s going to be a coalition that speaks it very clearly against them.</p>
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<p>What that means for me as American, that’s kind of where I’m at right now, because it could become very I would imagine it’ll be. I always say America will be the scariest, craziest, dangerous place on planet Earth one morning. Because sooner or later, the shit comes home to roost, or the chickens come home to roost. Let’s talk PG. And the plans have been cooked up. Vladimir Putin, I mean, I know that he could be gone tomorrow, but I’ve been hearing about this ever since I started podcasting. I’ve been here since 2009. So I’ve heard this:</p>
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<p>Now, of course, the Chinese Empire is, &#8230; I don’t know, I believe when I see it, but sooner or later, these are very sophisticated, long term patient thinkers. Vladimir Putin, I do believe, I have my differences with obviously, I don’t like how pro-Whites are treated in Russia, so on and so forth, et cetera. But I do believe he’s a sincere orthodox Christian. And we think in terms in Western Christianity of turning the other cheek. Well, actually what they believe is patience. Be patient with your enemy.</p>
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<p>And if you really look at China, Russia, or even Iran and Israel, these people have been incredibly patient, so much so that no one’s expecting them to do anything.</p>
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<p>Now, I would imagine when they go to do something over whatever catalyst they’re waiting for, it’s going to be, stand up and take notice. Let’s hope we survive it.</p>
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<p>And so that’s what scares me. They only speak one language and everyone knows it, and sooner or later, a lot of other people are going to be speaking the language back.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-20"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Mark on the Witch-Hunt Against Trump</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You see, that’s a really interesting take, the idea of this slow game and the patience. And I do agree with that. Now with the Trump thing, and this is going to enrage the viewers, because there’s always people who absolutely hate Trump, and I’m not his biggest fan. But I will say this with Donald Trump. Whenever you see something like this happen, I always have this gut reaction of who is in the right and who’s wrong, you just get that gut reaction.</p>
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<p>And although Trump doesn’t deserve our respect and support, I do think this is just a complete witch hunt and I don’t believe that he’s actually done anything wrong. I think the things that they’re going after him for are basically things they just invented. And if they are things that you can go after someone for, they’re probably really obscure laws that more or less every president breaks or every president tiptoes over the line with, but no one else would ever, ever get indicted over.</p>
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<p>So I do think this is fundamentally unfair.</p>
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<p>But I will say this unless this is some kind of giant sort of 4D chess where they’re trying to basically build Trump up and make him look like the radical and outsider so that everyone loves him again. This does actually paint him as somewhat of a radical and outsider because they’re not doing this to him because he’s their puppet or because he’s no threat. They’re doing this to him because they want to destroy him and grind him into the dust. Because for some reason, like you said, they hate him or appear to hate him as much as they’d hate any White nationalist. They are giving him the full on White nationalist treatment at the moment.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Yeah, I mean, this is what they do to us! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> This is what they did to you, try to do to you in the UK. This is what they do! They manufacture stuff, they split statements, they bring you up on some type of technicality or something. These laws that they’re applying to Donald have never been applied to Hillary Rodham Clinton. They’ve never been applied to anyone, George W. They’ve never been applied to anyone really in American history, or at least not in a long, long time.</p>
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<p>But when it comes to the RFK Juniors or the Kennedys and the Trumps, for some reason the establishment does not like them! And that establishment again, is multi-ethnic by and large under their control, meaning jew and gentile alike. You’ll see this.</p>
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<p>And I think that the 4D chess move, if it’s being played, will be played out of Israel. If there is a 4D chess play.</p>
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<p>And you want me to get crazy? Want me to get conspiratorial? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> And it’ll have a connection to UFOs! If there’s a 4D chess move, it’ll involve Israel and UFOs.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Explain yourself, explain yourself! You’re going to be able to justify this madness! We’re 40 minutes into the show and we’re talking about UFOs and Israel!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Well, you might have seen some UFO propaganda of late? Tucker Carlson’s first show hit on UFOs and everyone’s panning it! On one end of the equation, you have every smart person I know that doesn’t believe in UFOs saying:</p>
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<p>On the other end of the question every single heavy hitting commentator, political pundit on this planet is talking about UFOs. I don’t give a shit if they’re in China, Russia, Israel, Russian, Israeli generals! All the way to Tucker Carlson. And say what you want to, but these are Grade A propagandists.</p>
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<p>So information can’t be produced for no reason. Images are not embedded in people’s minds for no reason. Sooner or later, someone’s going to pull the trigger on something.</p>
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<p>Donald J. Trump is being accused of having top secret government documents and keeping those government documents for a particular reason. We don’t know what all he had, and we don’t know how all that can be spun. Could it be spun toward, quote, unquote, “<em>ET</em>”? Why not? Why wouldn’t you?</p>
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<p>Anytime you have something weaponised in the public space, I don’t care whether it’s White genocide, antiracism is a code word for anti-White, the reason you have it in the public space is so someone can step up one morning and do what needs to be done with it, whatever that means. And those are power plays in the social space, okay?</p>
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<p>So if I say the word aliens and this is a fact, and this fact is not disputable, there’s a whole percentage of people on the planet immediately thinking of little grey dudes. There’s no evidence that there’s little grey dudes. There’s no evidence at all. But that’s quite an image that someone put into your head. That’s a power play, all right?</p>
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<p>And so you have this in this split social space where you have all the smart people that don’t believe anything other than it’s a false flag, and you have all the people in charge <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> coming back to the message, well, that’s going to end up colliding one day.</p>
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<p>And so the question would be, what would it take to make Mark Collett shit his pants and be a believer or really freak out one morning? And that’s really the discussion here. What are they talking about doing, and what are their timelines? Their timelines are now! Because they’re coming back to the meme full blast. And that’s what you do you seed the message. You come back to it. You seed the message. I don’t own the mainstream media. If I did, that’s what I would do. Right?</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-23"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Religion, Israel, 4D Chess, Secret Documents</span></h3>
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<p>And then you hit it full on, no breaks on the train! Message 24-7! Because there’s a percentage of the people, 10%, whatever, that are going to be true believers. Now, are they going down a religious angle? Absolutely! That also involves Israel. There’s probably a dozen different sideshows they’re going down. What they’re willing to do, I don’t know.</p>
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<p>But my guess is if there’s any 4D chess, anything conspiratorial, Israelis, UFOs, the whole gamut. And it has to do with those damn documents, or they’ll say it has to do with them. Now, again, this is why people tune into me for this type of thing. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Because when it comes to this type of propaganda.</p>
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<p>If you want to learn propaganda, you learn it by looking at the UFO stuff.</p>
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<p>Because if you can put images in people’s heads that’s power, it’s real power! And sooner or later, someone’s going to make a power play off of it. And the Zionists are pretty much up to bat, if you haven’t noticed. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, that’s an interesting take. I’m not following. No, I’m not following. I don’t think there’s going to be anything to do with UFOs. I think Tucker Carlson is talking about UFOs, but I think it’s a safe thing to talk about. I think it’s a, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Think about this. Let’s say Tucker Carlson did a five minute segment talking about the biggest deal in the world. And the biggest deal in the world is some guy that worked for the CIA.</p>
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<p>And this is what he basically, in a nutshell, some guy that worked for the CIA. Some third party said that he knows that they had crashed UFOs and alien bodies. That is a big deal, if that’s true! It’s the biggest breach in national security in the history of the world! UFOs landed with aliens several decades ago. Okay?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[44:32]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But the fact of the matter is, someone made it safe for Tucker to say that. That takes a lot of energy, because this isn’t the rag of your local, I know in Britain you have these local rags that say all kinds of crazy stuff! In America, we had something called the National Enquirer, or they might still have that they talk about Bigfoot and aliens, all kinds of crazy stuff! But this is Tucker Carlson saying, this is Tucker Carlson running down an episode of the National Enquirer. Like, I’m standing in the grocery line with my mom and a kid, right? Think about the energy that takes right?</p>
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<p>Now, we would much rather him do that segment on White genocide. He’s not doing that, but he’s doing it on aliens. Why is that information being produced? And what type of energy would you have to have to make something that outrageous, more outrageous than White genocide? Which is the worst run conspiracy ever being talked about on a national show by a character like that, When he first came on Twitter? The first things he talks about in that episode, ten minutes long, but he talks about UFOs.</p>
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<p>Well, I mean, a lot of people are saying he’s an asset or this or that. But the question is, why is that information being produced? And you’re saying it’s just safe for them to talk about stuff like that.</p>
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<p>Propaganda. And this is an important point. People ask me:</p>
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<p>And I say there’s two things, two things we know in the English speaking world. What is the definition of psychological operations? The definition is simply this. It’s a phenomenon that we can all see! Can we see open borders? Is it objective? Can we notice it? Yes! Is it in White countries and only White countries, seemingly? Well, yeah, for some reason. Every time there’s an Eastern Bloc country open up, let’s say Hungary:</p>
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<p>And they’re not talking about White immigrants from America, not talking about Britons, English people, they’re talking about Africans. Right?</p>
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<p>So you have this phenomenon that we can all see backed by propaganda that we can all watch. Correct? Multiracial propaganda, immigrant pro-immigrant propaganda. Great Replacement, the pedal to the metal!</p>
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<p>So if we have propaganda that we can all see, backed by phenomenon that we can all see, that is the definition of psychological operations. That’s not random. That’s not possible. They don’t do random! There is no random at the top of the planet! If it’s random, maybe at a local level, you could have something random, but nothing that broad is random.</p>
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<p>Now, with UFOs, you got a big problem, because we got global, we got, like, Covid, right? Covid was confusing for us, Mark, because it was global! And you’ve got some heavy hitters putting in their card, let’s say, okay, Vladimir Putin. And me, and you agreed on this point. This is the mysterious part of Covid. We have definitely propaganda. You have a phenomenon, we have something going on, and you’ve got the Chinese and the Russians developing vaccines. And we’re like:</p>
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<p>Because the ideal that Qi Jinping is going to try to kill all the five year olds in China, I’m just not buying it. Are they giving them saline? I don’t know. But with the UFOs, you do have the propaganda that we can all see. We’re trying to understand the importance.</p>
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<p>Now, the phenomenon. I don’t know anyone that’s met “<em>aliens</em>” other than illegal aliens. I don’t have credible people, other than we got Tucker Carlson now talking about CIA guys that are talking about knowing that they had crashed UFOs and alien bodies. But that’s a big deal. If that’s true.</p>
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<p>And so that’s what we have. We don’t have the phenomena. We don’t have Independence Day where they show up at the door. And this is the funny thing. You could hover over top of capitals of a lot of countries on this planet and blow up, totally wipe out their political class, and most of the planet would probably celebrate! That’s the danger for Washington. If there’s anything out there, and I doubt there is in any conventional way.</p>
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<p>So, anyways, if you have a propaganda, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Look, there is stuff out there. Look, there is stuff out there! The universe is infinitely vast.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> There you go!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You’re just going to work on the law of probabilities. The law of probabilities says that we live in the Milky Way galaxy. In the Milky Way galaxy. There are millions of stars. In the universe there are billions and billions of stars.</p>
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<p>Now, obviously, for a planet to support life, it has to be in that Goldilock Zone, that area where it’s not too hot, but it’s not too cold. Planet can support an atmosphere. Planet can support water. And usually one would expect the planet to have to have a rotation so it wouldn’t be tidally locked.</p>
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<p>Now, other planets like Earth that conform to that will exist elsewhere in the universe. And we do believe that there might be life within our solar system, microbial life on Titan and other moons of Jupiter and Saturn that may have water on them.</p>
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<p>However, the idea that that life would develop like we did and then manage to develop some form of interstellar travel that would be able to get them from their planet to our planet is basically infinitesimally small! And that’s because to do that you would need to travel faster than the speed of light, which is impossible. And light years are basically not a time. They’re a distance. A light year is the distance a Beam of light travels in a year.</p>
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<p>So when somebody says, this planet here is 250 light years away from Earth, that means even if you were traveling at the speed of light it would take you 250 years to go from here to there. So that would be several generations. And some of these planets are thousands and thousands of light years away from Earth.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> You sound very rational. The problem is, that what I understand from propaganda, and there’s one thing that if you learn. I mean, if you have a phenomenon or this type of pervasive propaganda with so many powerful parties involved, they’re obviously going to go somewhere with it. And it really doesn’t matter how rational we are that particular morning. Our side will probably be fine. We just have to survive it and we have to see what they do. But they’re going to do some damage if they go down this particular road.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-27"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Tucker Carlson Wants to Make Money So Talks About Safe Crap</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No, look, Tucker Carlson’s talking about aliens because it’s a safe bet. And he wants to talk crap and make money, okay? He’s not doing it because aliens have visited us.</p>
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<p>There’s been all this stuff about Area 51 and aliens. And when anyone comes up with a conspiracy theory, or when anyone comes up with a hot take I like to go and read both sides of the story. And basic knowledge of physics suggests that if an alien race did come to this planet they wouldn’t be idiots who would then crash into the planet like bumbling fools. They would have to have a system of interstellar travel which was faster than light. And once you’ve broken one of the fundamental laws of physics you’re so advanced that these creatures could essentially alter laws of time and space.</p>
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<p>What’s more, for anyone that’s looked into interstellar travel, or funding interstellar travel, or successfully using the resources in a solar system, they would know what the term “<em>Dyson Sphere</em>” is. To successfully utilise all of the energy in your solar system and to raise yourself off your planet in that way, you need to be able to build a Dyson Sphere. And a Dyson Sphere is basically encasing your own sun in a giant series of plates which would essentially absorb it’s energy and transfer it directly to your planetary use. That is something that’s very, very technically, &#8230;</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-28"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Not Suggesting There’s Going to Be Aliens</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I’m not suggesting there’s going to be aliens. If there is anything alive, Mark, it’s simply basic physics. 99% of all matter in the universe is plasma. We humans occupy only 1%. And our 1% is based in solid, liquid and gas. Only 1% of the universe is solid, liquid and gas.</p>
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<p>So what you’re suggesting is there’s no other life form in the 1%. If there’s anything bigger in nature, it would obviously come from the plasma. That’s just common sense. And it wouldn’t look anything like we expected. Right?</p>
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<p>So when we’re dealing with Galileo, when we’re dealing with Einstein, you’re dealing with the physics of the 1%. When you’re dealing with Nicola Tesla, you’re dealing with the physics potentially of the 99%, plasma physics, which operates totally different, there’s, totally different.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> If life, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Let me finish. I have no idea. This cat’s calling for us to meet in the middle. All I’m asking is one question. Why is that information being produced? You’re saying it’s being produced just because it’s being produced. But it’s no longer produced as a National Enquirer.</p>
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<p>You’re not really laughing when you have very serious people. And it’s not just Tucker Carlson. I’m just using that as an example. You can use dozens of other examples, like Israeli generals and shit like that. Or people in the EU. They’re not doing this for no reason. They plan on doing something. I’m not saying it has anything to do with aliens being real! I don’t know. I’ve seen nothing to conclude they are. I’m more on your point on that.</p>
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<p>But information is not produced for no reason. They’re not putting this type of money and power behind it for no reason. It isn’t just a distraction per se, other than maybe a power play distraction, sure. But they’re going to ultimately have to have some phenomenon that’s going to get noticed. And the question is, what would I have to do to turn Mark Collett on his head that morning? And that’s the uncomfortable question. And I don’t know what they could do. Or to turn Tim Murdoch. What would they have to do to make me really think hard <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> about what’s going on so they can save their banking empire?</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-29"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Mark – No, I’m Not Following Any of This</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No, I’m not following any of this. You see, I think the simplest explanation is usually the one that is true.</p>
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<p>So when you see a huge number of a certain ethnic group running the banking sector, and the banking sector has never been good for our people, there is a conclusion that something is going on. And there is a very simple conclusion to that.</p>
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<p>Equally with the UFO stuff. And Tucker Carlson. There is a very simple conclusion to this. Tucker Carlson was flying too close to the sun, talking about the things that he was talking about. That was actually bothering a certain section of America’s elite and the judeo-American state. He got booted from Fox News. Now he’s basically doing the easy thing. And what’s better for his audience? What’s better for us? What’s better for him and what’s better for us? What’s better for us if he was talking about illegal aliens? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> What would be better for us if, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> He was talking about both the whole time! Tucker Carlson led. The reason he’s the key guy is because he led the way. He was the big one that blasted when the New York Times came on the alien message. It’s almost like someone at the top of America gave the alien message an official stamp. It’s no longer, for instance, if you’re in the navy or the air force and you see something weird 15 years ago, if you reported that, you could get blacklisted, like:</p>
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<p>Now, of course, they’re taking that stuff seriously. Officially! If you get reported, you’re not getting blacklisted anymore, you’re getting brought into senate and Congressional hearings. There has definitely been a change in bringing this out into the public. I don’t know the reasoning for that. Maybe late games to keep bread and circuses, as you say. But Tucker Carlson has been a key component of that, and there’s a lot of conspiracy theories on potentially why his dad, CIA. I don’t know if any of that’s true, but the fact of the matter is, he’s always been coming back to this particular message the last so many years on Fox, and that was the first thing he talked about on Twitter as well.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> It’s more likely that Tucker Carlson is trying to reduce all of his other talking points to the dust bin by talking about something that ridicules, that would bring ridicule to his other talking points. If you’re saying to the American public:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, you’ve got to take this issue seriously. You’ve got demographic change. You’ve got anti-White policies, you’ve got White people being discriminated against, and the aliens are here!”</span></h3>
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<p>One of those things may well bring ridicule upon.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-30"><span style="color: #ff0000;">They Are Going to Use This UFO Stuff Somehow</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Well, he didn’t actually say:</p>
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<p>It’s nothing that corny. He’s coming back to a message, but he’s using official sources, meaning he’s using sources that the average viewer has to consider legitimate unless they’re in our camp, maybe, or unless they’re very skeptical. Right now, everyone’s so skeptical that you have all these mainstream figures coming back to this particular message, and you have everyone so skeptical, and I don’t know where it’s going. I’m simply making a point.</p>
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<p>But I don’t know how it’s going to go. I’m just making you aware of this, that you’re going to be surprised one morning with what they do. And they’re going there very quickly. I don’t know how they’re going to do it. I don’t know what they’re going to do, but they’re going to do something!</p>
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<p>I know enough about propaganda that when these type of messages are out there, when people in all these different areas of power in various different countries are coming back to this, especially in America, coming back to this particular message that has so much money behind it! And they’re coming back to it from rags that typically have credibility, at least to the establishment. Well, they’re not doing it for no reason.</p>
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<p>Now, you can say that’s a very interesting theory about Tucker Carlson. He puts this in there to discredit all his other stuff. That could be. But I don’t think all these other people, I don’t think the New York Times is talking about this stuff just to discredit their whole entire, all their liberal shit. But they’re not doing it for no reason. Information is not produced for no reason. It’s too expensive. People either have agendas, political agendas, or whatnot. But go on.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-31"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Mark Disagrees – It’s Going to Be More White Genocide</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> See, I disagree. Do you know what I think is going to happen? I don’t think I am going to wake up and be surprised. I think things are going to keep getting worse and worse!</p>
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<p>And as things get worse and worse, the government is going to take away more and more of our rights and freedom.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Well, that is true</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah. Until we’re all living in 15 minutes cities without cars, on some kind of social benefit that the government pays us and is contingent on us saying the right things and being good boys. And at the same time, migrants will pour in both legally and illegally. And you’re going to see more of what happened in France, and you’re going to see more of what happened in Nottingham. You’re going to see more of what happened in Skegness, where a White girl was, you know, raped in the same park that, you know, Patriotic Alternative activists and speakers, you know, held a rally a few months ago. You know, all of these things are the real issue.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Not literally.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And I feel that for me, when I hear somebody like Tucker talking about aliens and UFOs, it makes me want to put my fist through my bloody monitor! Because I’m looking here at the complete eradication of not just our people, but of our civilisation and everything that we’ve built. And at the same time that’s happening, we’re not going quietly into the night. This isn’t us peacefully slipping away as people. We are being raped! We’re being brutalised! We are being dispossessed.</p>
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<p>And as all that’s happening, we are being humiliated as well. They’re not just doing horrendous things to us. They’re spitting in our faces as they’re doing them! And I look at all of that happening, I look at everything that we are facing as a people, and then I hear Tucker Carlson talking about UFOs, and I apply sort of basic science and basic physics to what he’s saying, and I wonder to myself, what is his game? And I don’t particularly trust Tucker Carlson.</p>
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<p>And one thing that made me very, very angry with him is when he was on a roll and when he seemed to be doing the right thing and people were pinning their hopes on him being the next Great White Hope. He had his little rant about how he would vehemently oppose and object to any politician coming up to him and saying that they stood for White people. And any guy who says he’ll give the middle finger to a man who says that they’re going to stand up for White rights, but at the same time is there using his new show to talk about UFOs, my spider sense is tingling. And I look at this man, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> He’s used his show the whole time. Someone was greenlighted to bring this stuff that was normally an Enquirer and an outlier sort of propaganda piece from Hollywood that was overwhelming across the planet. But someone greenlit it to bring it mainstream, if you will. Maybe another form of bread and circuses. I don’t know. They’re going somewhere with it. That’s my only point. I’ll either be right or wrong. And you can, &#8230;</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-32"><span style="color: #ff0000;">When is This UFO Thing Happening?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> What’s the time limit? We need a time limit for this argument so we can revisit it.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> It’s 36 months at the max.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> 36 months! I might be dead in 36 months! That’s too long!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Yeah, I mean, well, they’ve been at this how long? When’s the first time you heard about aliens in your life?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I know, but look, I think aliens is something that we would naturally talk about. And I think we would naturally talk about that because as we became a space faring race, we would look and think, well, are there other space faring races out there?</p>
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<p>And as I said, the laws, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> They are legitimate discussions. You were having one a minute ago. I’m looking at it from a pure propaganda standpoint.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No, I think there are legitimate discussions, but I think when I see people like Tucker using that, I see him sort of straying into the Alex Jones kind of area where he’s talking about things which are safe.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> He friends with Alex Jones. He admitted in his book his job is to keep the peasants from grabbing the pitchforks and the torches! So, to your point.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-33"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Tucker Has the Voice, Millions of Ears</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> So why are you giving this guy any credibility, then?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Because he has the voice. He has the ear of millions. What does his video have on, like 100 million views or something like that?</p>
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<p>And so I think the reason I would look at mainstream media and what messages they’re producing, especially if it’s some type of outlier and this is an outlier, something got greenlit. You can go back to his first show when he started talking about this particular subject. He didn’t just start talking about it 20 years ago or ten years ago. He just started talking about it, maybe in the past six years, this particular UFO stuff, and he talked about it again using mainstream, &#8230;</p>
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<p>I mean, if you’re dealing with New York Times, you’re dealing with what people consider mainstream, right? We don’t consider them credible, but a lot of people do.</p>
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<p>And so you’re looking at a particular phenomenon that’s coming to head.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m not up to date on everyone in the UK involved, all the different Ministers of Defense, and I know there was one that you would consider credible, the average British person. But you’re just not dealing with cranks and people online. You’re dealing with mainstream elements coming out with this stuff. Just be aware!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Just because somebody’s in the mainstream doesn’t mean they’re not a crank. Do, you know what I’ve got in my hand here, Tim?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> What</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Shall I show you?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Go ahead.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Do, you know what this is?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Cell phone?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah. Do, you know what model?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> No</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> It’s the Samsung Galaxy S10?</p>
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<p>So it’s quite old now. It’s got, I think, about a 13 megapixel camera. But the new ones, the really good ones, they’ve got like, I think what is it on the Samsung Galaxy 23? I could look it up. I think they’ve got like, about a 200 megapixel sensor. Do, you know how sharp the images are from those cameras?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> They’re good.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> They are. And it always amazes me that you’ve got all these UFO fans and all these people have seen these incredibly weird things, and all these people have seen ghosts and Bigfoot, and they’ve seen the alien invasion with their own eyes, but they’ve never even got a Samsung Galaxy S Ten, let alone like, the new one. They’re always walking around with, like, a Nokia 3210! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Like a half a mega pixel camera!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> They had some good cameras in Las Vegas just recently. We’ll see where it goes. I’m just making you aware of the phenomenon</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Smear some grease on it dropped some sand on it, and then they’re taking it through the Turing Shroud. The picture through the Shroud. So you kind of get the picture that there might be a bit of a light in the distance. Just a thought there.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-34"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Donald Trump as a Saviour?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> The chance blowing up on Project Bluebeam, and what I would say about Project Bluebeam is that if you’re going to go down this angle and we’re going to play a game, let’s say we’re going to try to fool people, let’s say we’re going to make Donald Trump a saviour, which you suggested. Make him a saviour, right?</p>
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<p>I mean, Tucker Carlson’s on that tip, that’s what he’s saying. Donald Trump’s being and he’s being persecuted in a way that we’ve seen others be persecuted. It’s not fair, right? We can agree that it’s fundamentally not fair.</p>
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<p>So what would you have to do you’re not going to be able to do with just Project Blue Beam. Even if it’s real in the way people think it’s real, you’re not going to be able to do that with just holograms. You’re going to have to do a lot more crazy stuff than that. I don’t know if they have the technology for it. That’s what I would say, and I don’t know if they could do it, not fall flat on their faces. It may just be a laugh.</p>
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<p>But you don’t have this type of propaganda for no reason. And that’ll be my final point. It’s not just for shits and giggles and circuses and stuff like that! No, they’re going somewhere with this one.</p>
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<p>I actually hope I’m wrong too.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> In a very friendly and cordial way, I disagree. I find discussion of UFOs and aliens fascinating. I think I’ve looked into it. Well, I’ve spent far too much time looking into it. I tend to look into everything. Like when the flat Earth bubble sort of grew, I spent a lot of time looking into that as well, because people said:</p>
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<p>And I tend to look into things with a very open mind. And I do look at these things and I do my own sort of mathematical calculations. I look at what both sides say and I do come up with what I think is a rounded consensus.</p>
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<p>It’s quite funny because I do believe that there is something really up with these Covid jabs. And then some people are like, oh, they think that <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I’m a conspiracy theorist for that.</p>
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<p>But then there’s other things that I reject. So I certainly do reject either flat earth or the idea that aliens, &#8230;</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-35"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Information is Not Produced for No Reason</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I would be concerned with flat earth if I saw it to be like a mainstream narrative carried by the likes of the New York Times and Tucker Carlson’s, and Defense Ministers from the UK and Israeli Generals all talking about this, then I would think they’re going somewhere with flat earth. Not that it’s true, but from a propaganda standpoint, information is not produced for no reason. But we haven’t really seen that with flat Earth. Flat Earth is kind of like an outlier. You have people online going at it over. It’s not like something, &#8230;</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-36"><span style="color: #ff0000;">They’re out to Get Trump Because He Gives People Hope</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’ll say this, I think they’re out to get Trump. And they’re out to get Trump because Trump gives people hope. He doesn’t give us hope, but he gives lots of normies hope. And he gives normies hope because he talks about things like migration and borders and he signals that anti-Whiteism. And he does all these things and he gives people hope and they want to crush our hope and they want to crush anyone who gives us hope. And they want to have us living in fear.</p>
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<p>And I think they want to send us a message that they can crush anyone, whether it be former President Trump, down to Ricky Vaughan. I want to say down to Ricky Vaughan. That’s not meant to be a knock at Ricky Vaughan, but he is a lot smaller fry than former President Trump.</p>
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<p>And I think they want to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Whether you’re a January 6 protester or whether you’re the man that the January 6 protesters were protesting on behalf of we’ll crush you all, and we’ll crush you mercilessly for anything, so watch your backs!”</span></h3>
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<p>And that scares a lot of normal people.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Trump is an avatar. Someone called him in the chat that is appropriate avatar of White populism. That is what he is and that’s what they’re looking to crush. I would agree with that. I don’t know what is going to happen.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-37"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Crushing Trump Won’t Scare Genuine Nationalists</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think this. The only people that the crushing of Donald Trump isn’t going to scare is genuine nationalists, because they’ve been trying to crush us with that level of force for forever, for decades!</p>
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<p>If you look at what they subjected Germany to at the end of the Second World War, that is the level of ferocity that they will use to stamp out any nationalist alternative! If they have to, they will fire bomb cities and melt women and babies in the street as they boil in molten asphalt and tarmac. They will do that if they have to. They will starve us, they will beat us, they will brutalise us. But they don’t have to do that for most normal people! For most normal people, the public destruction of Donald Trump will be enough to put most people back in their place.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Well, we’ll see. I don’t know exactly what type of protest and what games are going to be played. Most people saw Jay Six, which was called Civnat Seville, Civnat Charlottesville. And most people saw these events, and they don’t want to go to another one. So we’ll have to see if they actually do put him in prison.</p>
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<p>The one conservative headline I found amusing was that Hitler was put in prison. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> As if Donald Trump would be Hitler, but Hitler was put in prison. Putting him in prison may actually help him, but <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I don’t think there’s no one on his side that we can see, at least, in the establishment, at the levels of power. It would have to be some type of wild, renegade, regular American folks that busted him out of prison, is what I would say. But what’s he going down for like 1000 years, and I think he will go on trial.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think it’s 400, but by the time you go over 400, it might as well be 1000!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Exactly! It’s like infinity. So we’ll have to see where they do they might put them in prison. Sure, we’re going to see. Israel is going to save him <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>!</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-38"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Making a Conspiracy Documentary for Bitchute</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Do you know what? I might call it a day doing these shows, and I just might start inventing my own conspiracy theories. I’ll just upload to BitChute for millions of views.</p>
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<p>This week is going to be:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Trump to flee America, go to Russia, team up with Putin, be armed by aliens, and then retake the USA, bringing back traditional Christianity with him, which was all developed by aliens because Jesus was an alien!”</span></h3>
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<p>That would be the entirety of it.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> That would be Discovery Channel, though. That’s Discovery Channel right now.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think that’s a good conspiracy. One’s in the chat, if you’d watch a documentary made by me on that.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:12:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> The thing about those conspiracy sites, though, that I’ve always admired is they make a lot more money than us. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> That’s the funny thing about it. They get more views and they make more money. Unfortunately, we’ve got to talk about the heart. I am only looking at it from a propaganda angle. I don’t really examine what’s true and what’s false that I can’t really prove, because, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> People in the chat are lighting it up with their happiness at me making that documentary!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Make the spoof with cutouts of Tucker Carlson and make your point, because you made some good points. They need to be heard.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Maybe. So <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Have you uploaded to Rumble yet?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, some of my videos are on Rumble.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> But you need to upload that to Rumble.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-39"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Superchats — The Death Penalty</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> People would love it. Rumble, where videos have apparently got 2 million views, but only 100 likes. I’m not convinced that site isn’t a psyop either.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, let’s do some of these Superchats. VM gave $3. Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’ve always been fascinated by what life is like out there in space, but when I wanted to hunt for the truth behind every conspiracy about them, I ended up here.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, well, exactly. And, you know what? I would recommend this. There are a lot of really good documentaries made by sort of just regular people who have done some research on YouTube about the universe, about other solar systems of the planet. I watched one the other day. I think it was the top ten most terrifying planets to live on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And obviously you couldn’t live on them because they are absolutely unlivable. But it does make for interesting learning. And I do like to learn about the universe. What’s out there has always fascinated me. And just to reiterate, I am absolutely convinced that 100% there is life out there. 100% there is intelligent life. I just am very doubtful it would get here.</p>
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<p>Flying Dutchman gave $20. Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“In 1977, convicted murderer Hamida, &#8230;”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I can’t pronounce the last name:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“A Tunisian was the last person to be guillotined in France. They should think about sharpening their national razor for future use.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, and, you know what? I agree with that. I think if you’re a child killer, if you go out there stabbing children, you deserve the death penalty. And what do you think to this going back to reality here, Tim?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I’m surprised he even made it to the police station. In America, there was a time when someone was running around with a knife trying to stab children, you wouldn’t make it to a police station. They wouldn’t be tazzing you. They would just shoot you dead! And you’re probably still that way in a lot of neighbourhoods. Right? That’s kind of what normal people do when someone has a knife and they’re trying to stab children. You take that threat out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I guess if he’s laying on the ground with his hands behind him, he’s surrendering or whatever, they might arrest him and take him to the police and figure out, why is this lunatic doing that? But he was in an area that was incredibly safe and unarmed, right?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:16:46]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I would say one of the things that bothers me about this, and I do appreciate the Superchat, but one of the things that really bothers me about this is I agree with the Superchat. I agree that people who go and stab children deserve to face the death penalty. But I wonder how long it will be legal in this country to say that you believe that the death penalty should be brought back?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Well, there is death penalty in various different states in America. You’re talking about in Europe? Europe wise?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, I’m talking about in the UK. How long it will still be legal for me to say something like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I believe that he deserves to face the death penalty for that.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because I think, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> That’s a good question. Is that free speech? The speech codes are so Orwellian, I couldn’t even begin to navigate them. Is that hate speech against him saying he should have the death penalty? It’s a good question.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> It might be seen as hate speech. And it might also be seen as threats to violence. I remember one of the few times I actually got a notification on Twitter about a tweet being deleted, was to do, and this is insane! It was actually to do with me saying that a convicted paedophile deserved the death sentence. And they said that I was threatening his well being and that I should and asked me to remove the tweet.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Wow, that’s crazy! I think the UK is probably one of the craziest, maybe outside of Germany. You might get something crazy in Germany for that, maybe France, but the UK is absolutely nuts! Scotland, we’ve seen crazy stuff in Scotland. Ireland is going that direction, I guess. But when was the last time you had the death penalty in the UK? Who was the last person put to death? Do you know?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think it was after the Second World War, and I know the actual case, but I don’t know the year. It was two men who had carried out some kind of burglary and one of them had a gun and the guy with the gun was mentally subnormal and the other guy, the policeman, said:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hand over the gun.”</span></h3>
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<p>And the other guy shouted to the mentally subnormal guy:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let him have it.”</span></h3>
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<p>And the mentally subnormal guy opened fire and killed the police officer.</p>
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<p>Now, that resulted in a very long drawn out case where the man who gave the order was, I believe it was, hanged. And there has always been a debate over that particular issue because the defense stated, he said:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let him have it.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In the way of give him the gun. The police officer said:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Calm down, just give me the gun.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the other guy goes, let him have it. And the defense said he was saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let him have it. Give him the gun. It’s over, we’ve got a surrender.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the prosecution successfully argued that when he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let him have it.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He was telling his accomplice to execute the officer.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:18:55]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Crazy stuff!</p>
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<p>So it’s been that long. I thought it was the 70s myself.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think that was it anyway, I think that was it was in 1965, the death penalty for murder in Britain was suspended for five years. In 1969, it was made permanent. But it wasn’t until 1998 until it was abolished for all crimes. And it was still treason in 1998. On August the 13th, 50 years ago, this article, why does it say 50 years ago? Why doesn’t it just say the bloody date? That’s annoying, isn’t it? I’m trying to look for the, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was in 1964 was the last time anyone was actually executed. At 08:00 am on the 13th August 1964, two men convicted a few weeks earlier of murder were led to the gallows at separate prisons in Manchester and Liverpool. No one involved knew it at the time, but Gwen Evans and Peter Allen were the last executions before capital punishment was abolished. And I do believe that that is the case where one of them told the other, “<em>Let him have it</em>”.</p>
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<p>So, yeah, I think that was it. I might be wrong, though. The case I’m talking about definitely happened and it created a lot of debate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, yeah, so that is that. We’ve got some more Superchats then. Alec Yard Stick gave $5. Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You should watch the 1985, Day of the Dead film for your next film review. Mark. Best zombie film. In my eyes, it’s an absolute <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span>. Also slightly based.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, sorry, my friend, I can’t do that because Beerhall Pooch already gave us $50 to review The Machinist, which was very generous.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’ll move over to Odysee now and do the Superchats on Odysee. Remember, look, there is still time to Superchat if you want. And remember all these Superchats, if you’re watching tonight, please do consider giving something, whether it’s just three $5, a little bit more if you can afford it. It’s very important that people do donate. Because if they donate it allows me to carry on doing this full-time for a living.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And obviously I do work full-time for the cause. I’m always working hard for this cause.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-40"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Superchats – Cantwell</span></h3>
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<p>So if you can afford to donate, it’d be very appreciated. Beerhall Pooch gave 14.88. Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hail Tim! Ace personal chat with Cantwell! Not heard you speak like that before on all the history. Can you get Full Moon Ancestry back on for a catch up? Not heard for moon ages. Hope the whiskeys not got hold of him. And he’s writing his novel. I’m well, by the way, this tourist is always a purist.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, he did something with Cantwell. Did you get on well with him?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:21:58]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Yeah, I brought him on for an interview and he wanted me on and it was probably one of the better interviews anyone’s done of me. Maybe ever. Maybe ever. So he’s really professional guy when it comes to doing interviews. I was really impressed. Really impressed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>A lot of stuff he’s working on is very interesting as far as behind the scenes stuff that can help us out, long term. Systems and various different ways to get out shows and stuff I don’t want to go into details with, but he’s definitely an impressive guy. But no, I was really surprised with the questions and how much research he had done and the quality of questions. It was one of the better interviews. I’ve got it up on Odysee and I reposted it because it’s such a fantastic interview. Just like I repost when I’m on Patriotic Weekly Alternative, Weekly Review. I always get the two messed up.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-41"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Superchats – Jazzhands McFeels</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay. We got a fraction of a penny from What Too? And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Will Jazz Hands McFeels be doing more shows with you Tim? His Fash the Nation podcast got shoahed <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[as in Holocausted]</strong></span>.</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> It didn’t get shoahed. It didn’t get shoahed. He put things on the back burner for the time being over something that had happened. He was supposed to come on my show Monday and he missed it.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> What do you mean? I never hear about any of this gossip.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Neither do I. I didn’t hear about it until he was coming on my show and didn’t show up. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I was asking Warren Balogh like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, I can’t get a hold of Jazz Hands!”</span></h3>
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<p>I did a message out to Jazz Hands and Warren said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, he’s gonna be there, because I was just with I was just talking to him the other day and he was talking about coming on your show Monday.”</span></h3>
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<p>So I’m like, okay. I’m not really worried about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then he never got back with me and he just, like, disappeared off the radar.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I don’t know what’s going on. But he’s out there. He’s taking a break for a while. And he’s doing various different projects. He’s taking a break from Fash the Nation. I don’t think he killed it permanently. He’s taking a break.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I hope not. But Fash the Nation is sort of like, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Yeah, he’s a genius.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Fash the Nation is sort of the premiere, sort of weekly nationalist show, unless you can, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:24:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Yeah, well, it’s going to take a new form now, but I don’t know. I wanted to have him on my show and had him booked, but he didn’t show up, so I had to wing it. Which happens time to time.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-42"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Superchats – Immigration Reform in Japan</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> That is unfortunate. Well, good luck to him because he’s a great friend of this show. Glenn 19, gave $2. Thank you so much!:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Did you hear about the brawl in the Japanese Parliament started by a Leftist politician, Taro Yamamoto, over immigration reform? Legal immigration is exploding in Japan. It’s just to placate the public by going after illegal immigration.”</span></h3>
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<p>I have not heard about that, but that is very interesting.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Yeah. They started opening up Japan over the past so many years, and now they’re trying to put the pressure on them. I think it’s going to be intriguing to watch and to see how effective it is. I know that there’s a video that I’m going to be playing. I’ll be live at 04:00 pm, and I’ll have to jump off a couple of minutes early with Mark, before I give him advice on his new documentary or his next video he’s doing, which is going to be a blockbuster. I’m going to volunteer some stuff for him.</p>
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<p>But there’s a video where the Japanese police, &#8230; And they’ve got all these people coming into Japan right now, and they’ve got people with video phones, Somalis and everything else messing with Japanese citizens, and they’ve roughed up Johnny Somali, there’s no doubt about that.</p>
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<p>And so I’m going to play a video and talk about Japan, and it’s one to watch. There’s only so much some of these races are going to take before there’s somewhat of a backlash.</p>
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<p>Now, what the Japanese authorities do with the backlash is you’re going to have the (((usual suspects))) that are in cahoots with Washington and that are pushing gay rights and the global homo and open borders and multiracial everything, and they’re going to try to crack down on any type of Japanese backlash. But I’m curious to see what forms the backlash take and how coordinated that is within the Japanese establishment.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay. Glenn 19, also said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Taro’s party Reiwa Shin Shagumi is pro-minority rights and pro-refugee. Times are changing fast and occupied Japan.”</span></h3>
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<p>Yeah, I agree with that. America’s control over Japan will obviously lead to horrible things for the Japanese people. I mean, it’s already led to horrible things for the Japanese people, but it’ll lead to more horrible things.</p>
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<p>And I certainly wouldn’t want America, well, America does control Britain, and I don’t want it to!</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-43"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Superchats – Islam vs Anti-Whiteism</span></h3>
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<p>D Seven, gave $10. Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“None of the recent anti-White knife attacks in Britain and Europe seem to be motivated by Islam. It seems to be all anti-White hatred.”</span></h3>
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<p>Yeah, we didn’t end up talking as much about this, but I wanted to because we ended up talking about bloody UFOs! He says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Proves that race always trumps religion or any other category. Whites need to learn this lesson before we can win.”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:26:49]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Now, I’m going to have a take on this before I give this to Tim, because I want to say this. I’ve spent my entire life talking about two things, really. One is jewish power, and the other is obviously demographic change, mass immigration, whatever you want to call it.</p>
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<p>And I’ve always talked about that in terms of the transition from White British to White British minority.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s important to say that over the last few years, what I’ve talked about has attempted to be subverted by other groups that have wanted to make it all about Islam. So:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s great if black people come here. It’s great if Christians come here from other parts of the world. It’s great if these sorts of people come here. We need all the Japanese brain surgeons and Chinese industrialists. We need all these people, but just not the Muslims!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>And these last two attacks that you’ve seen, the Syrian in France was apparently a Christian, and this black guy from West Africa, well, I don’t think he was a Muslim. He had dreadlocks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s important for me to say very clearly, this is why I’ve always railed against demographic change as a whole! Not because I’m not zeroing in on the real problem, but because the real problem is far bigger than just Islam. And people who want to talk about just Islam are people who want to live in usually a safe, Zionist dominated space where certain special interest groups try to buy this movement, try to buy the nationalist movement, and direct it into being just an anti-Islam movement, rather than dealing with the big issue, which is demographics. I don’t know if you want to add anything to that, Tim.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> No, I don’t have anything to add.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay. Serena J. B gave $8. Thank you so much, my dear. And she said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Antiracist Hitler is brilliant! Keep up the good work.”</span></h3>
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<p>You are brilliant, Tim. I want to tell you that as well.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Let’s just look at each other uncomfortably now for a few seconds so it can be clipped out. Oh great! Back to Juan Anderson gave $5. Thank you so much!</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“And so there seems to be more unity among the Right now. Even Nigel Farage is calling for unity. Tim, is something similar happening in the US.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> No. Well, you have the people that are coming out, let’s see, against the establishment prosecution of Trump, and people that are silent on that. And that’s probably something to watch in the Republican Party and people that are taking one side or the other. And like, even the Senate Republican leader, he hasn’t taken a position on Trump yet publicly, I don’t think. If he did, he did it in the last, 24 hours.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:29:43]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-44"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Superchats – Lauren Southern’s Marriage Break-Up</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay, Carlotto asks me a question for one Odysee token. Thank you for your penny, my friend. A penny from my thoughts. He says:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Mark, will you address the Lauren Southern situation? She recently admitted that she married a Fed and that she’s broken up with him.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’ll address it briefly. Look, I called her out before anyone else did. I was the guy that made, I think it was an hour and a half long documentary on her about how she was working with Hope Not Hate. She admitted that she was working with Hope Not Hate, how she was going to crap on everybody. She crapped on everybody about how she was going to sell out. She sold out!</p>
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<p>And then she ran off, married a Fed, and apparently had a child, which is at least partly non European, despite the fact she has millions of European simpy men paying her way. Now the marriage has gone wrong. She’s rubbishing her husband on social media. Ex-husband. Husband. I don’t know if they’re still married.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I didn’t know she had ADHD. Did you?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No. She claimed he had ADHD, didn’t she? Or does she have ADHD?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I read it like she did. Maybe I read it wrong. I don’t know a lot about her. I just glanced over it. The only thing I know about Laura Southern is she made a documentary about South Africa and White genocide, which our side has made, all kinds of stuff like that. But I remember that. That’s the only thing I remember that I thought was even decent.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, here’s my hot take. She’s blabbing all over Twitter about her failed marriage, as if she’s on an episode of The Jerry Springer Show. And she’s doing that for two reasons.</p>
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<p>The first reason is quite obvious. She wants your money. If you’re a single White male, or maybe if you’re a White male who’s with somebody but you fancy her, she wants your money. She doesn’t have a guy paying her way anymore. She wants you to pay her way. She is selling you a sob story because she wants you to donate. She now is single and you can be her e-husband. You can pay her way. Don’t do that, guys. It’s pathetic!</p>
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<p>And secondly, she’s playing this all out on Twitter because obviously the breakdown of the marriage was her fault. When the breakdown of the marriage isn’t your fault, you don’t need to get your story in first. You just walk away with dignity. You hold your head up high, you tell your friends, your family, and you say:</p>
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<p>And you walk away. When it’s your fault you have to get your story in first and blab everywhere and give your twisted version of events and make out you were really the victim, which is what she’s doing.</p>
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<p>And I guarantee you she’s doing that. Because she isn’t really the victim! She’s manipulating her fan base, who will now all be hoping that they can take on her and her child and they can be her new baby daddy! It’s pathetic! She’s pathetic! The people paying her are pathetic! And reducing your life to an episode of The Jerry Springer Show on Twitter for donations is just the icing on the cake for that woman. It’s the icing on the cake. Absolutely terrible shameless! And I can guarantee if you track down that fella and ask him for his version of events, they’d be very different to hers. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Trust me on that!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> That’s coming. And there was a take on Twitter that I’ll be talking about in about an hour that I thought was a fascinating take. And it was a take about what was unforgivable is the fact that her choice in husband <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> was the Twitter take was this is something she did. She made a choice in husbands that was like the worst choice you could make to come back into nationalism and stuff like that. It was kind of an interesting take because it was worded in a way that gets around a lot of rules. But I don’t know. I can’t remember exactly. I was unprepared for this.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> When you have a woman who is basically the darling of the dissident Right, that every content creator and White man, donor content, consumer producer, in the movement would want to date, marry, and breed with, and she runs off and marries a man who isn’t completely of European descent and works for the Feds, that’s a wrongun! And that’s not a good woman! That’s not a good woman! If you could have the pick of every White man in the dissident movement you want, and you end up married to a non-White Fed, that’s an odd choice.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> An Asian, too, which is kind of like jumped out, Asian. All right, okay. Asian fellow, Chinese.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Tucker’s father was a spook and so is. He when you get a job in the BBC in the past and post, 2001 spooks, check you. Tucker is not a saviour. Remember that. He keeps the line aliens is just Alex Jones space. He’s trying to make Internet mainstream, and captured.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You did! That’s what you told me before the show when you were showing me your Tucker Carlson branded underwear. I wasn’t, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Interesting fun fact. You want to know who worked for Tucker Carlson’s father?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Go on.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> In the anti-communist, in the Cold War? No less than Robert Whitaker.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Very good!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Interesting connection.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Indeed. Olivia gave $14. Thank you so much, my dear. You’re always very generous. And she says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Evening gentlemen. Excellent show. Has a date for the RAF Scampton demo being announced yet?”</span></h3>
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<p>12th of August. All of the good nationalist groups in the UK are coming together for that. Look out for more details. I was on the phone with the wonderful Anglo Joe today. We were talking about this. It is definitely on. Set that date in your diary. We’ll be advertising it heavily. Archie gave $4. Thank you so much! And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Tim and Mark are both wrong. The light that landed in Las Vegas this week produced hominid like aliens that breathe oxygen. Obviously, ET life likely is carbon based, breathes oxygen and travels faster than light using hot wormholes without any craft. They also travel nude!”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Thank you!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Bigfoot’s coming through wormholes!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Maybe next time gave $3. Thank you so much!:</p>
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<p>I don’t know who we can blame. If aliens turn up, obviously, I’m going to be proved greatly wrong.</p>
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<p>So, yeah. 24 hours gave $5. Thank you so much!:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Fun show tonight.”</span></h3>
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<p>Thank you. He says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“PA, I was pleased to receive my Patriotic Alternative membership pack through the post today. Thank you.”</span></h3>
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<p>Yeah. You can now join Patriotic Alternative for just three pounds a month. You will get a proper membership pack through the post, invitations to all meetings and priority bookings for conferences, et cetera. You get a lovely membership card with our new mascot and logo, which is our Red Squirrel. So look forward to that.</p>
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<p>Anonymouse. I love your name, by the way. Gave 14.88 and he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I believe I found the woman that I’m going to marry and I’ll soon have three children from her. She’s half Scottish and 100% European. I will buy a house for our family soon, too. We’re in our mid twenties, but we’re moving to South Africa so we can afford the life we want.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, good luck and hopefully you’re moving to Orania and not, &#8230; When you say you’re moving to South Africa. Please, that’s a really nice story. Please say you’re moving to the White bit. Thank you.</p>
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<p>RMA gave $5 and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Donation.”</span></h3>
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<p>Much appreciated, my friend. Remember, guys, there is still time to donate tonight if you want, and all donations go to a good cause. The Resident Baker gave $5. Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Superb show, as usual. Tim is a great guest and his takes are excellent.”</span></h3>
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<p>Yeah, it’s been quite a fun and different show, I thought. We’re going to be all doom and gloom about the stabbings, we’ve ended up having, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I gave you the overview of your largest video you’re ever going to do, and it’s the time when you need to do it. You need to do the spoof video. You’ve got the outline, but there’s a couple of things missing between Trump, aliens and the Russians. You’ve got to work in his documents and you’ve got to work in the Israelis, and him in a jail cell. An AI picture of him in a jail cell looking buff, by the way. We want buff Trump! Maybe even riding T-Rex. He could ride T-Rex to the rescue. An actual T-Rex. I don’t know. You could do a fun video, Mark. You can do a fun video.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> If T-Rex was to come into it, it would have been engineered and grown in a lab in Wuhan.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> You’re going to do that and so many donations are going to come in. You’re going to be, why didn’t I do this?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Do, you know what? This is why I’m not going to do this video. Because if I did this video, I would make more donations off that one video than I have for all of the videos I’ve done.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> It would be demoralizing, wouldn’t it?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And I would just kill myself. That would be it. You’d hear the donations, like the cash register going, and as it was going wildly, you’d see me sort of sobbing and then you just hear a click, boom. And that would be it. Lights out! Couldn’t cope anymore with the reality that’s a really good place. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> It’s obviously a joke.</p>
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<p>By the way, I don’t endorse suicide. Stan One gave 500 Odysee tokens. Thank you for the beans, my friend.</p>
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<p>By the way, all the crypto is going low again, so you might as well give me all your magic beans and I’ll look after them for you. Stanwom said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Heard JP. Morgan paid $290 <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[million]</strong></span> as a settlement to the victims of Epstein. Looks like possibly hush money with lots of Covid ups.”</span></h3>
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<p>Indeed. And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Great show, great guests as well.”</span></h3>
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<p>Thank you so much! Michael 57D is always a long term supporter of the show. Thank you so much! Said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hail Mark. Hail the gods. Hail Tim. Mark, do you have a second Telegram account where you promote digital currency, or is that an impersonation?”</span></h3>
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<p>Look, if anyone asks you for digital currency and it’s not me on this show tonight or any other show, so you can see my face if anyone messages you pretending to me asking for crypto-currency donations, I have never done that. I’ve never, ever sent out emails, private messages, asking people money. I never would. If you send me donations, I make it all public here what people send. You know what I get. I would never harass people or harangue people like that. It’d be cringe. And you’ll never get stuff like that off me.</p>
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<p>So if you are getting stuff like that off me, it is an impersonator. Do not give them money! Scaredy Cat. The lovely Scaredy Cat. Thank you, my dear. She said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hi, White rabbit. When you used to wear a cap, there was a band of shadow across your eyes. I also saw a photograph of American soldier awkwardly lining up elderly villager against his hut. I thought of a project to get his iris scan of all Afghanis during the 20 year attack on them by the US government. Why don’t you wear your cap anymore?”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I typically don’t have my cap on for interviews on this system. It just depends. I’ll have it on for a few minutes. Just in a few minutes at 04:00 p.m if you tune in on my other machine, I’ll have on a cap. It’s just hats. Sometimes I sell hats, so if you sell hats, you got to wear them.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I was bitterly disappointed when I saw him without his hat on because I thought, Tim had Val Kilmer’s hair from Heat, this beautiful, flowing Viking.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Been on your show before with my, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’m joking! I know. I was just making a joke about you with sort of long, flowing hair, which obviously isn’t going to be.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> This is a fake. It’s a fake bald cap.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Imagine that, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> though. Imagine if after the show, you just sort of peel back a ball cap, val Kilmer’s viking locks, and you were just like:</p>
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<p>That would be fantastic. Obviously, I’m not suggesting anyone does go and turn over security trucks. I’m just mentioning that because we reviewed Heat the other day. I could work that into my Trump documentary.</p>
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<p>Alex the Nemesis. Thank you so much! He gave $5. He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Keep up the cross promotion of dissident content creators. Should organise a 24 hours super show with a slate of guests.”</span></h3>
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<p>Look, if I’m going to do a 24 hours super show, I would need to be paid. I would need the Superchats to be fat for that! Can you imagine how bad I would be after 24 hours of constant streaming, just living off Red Bull and not eating?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I couldn’t do that. I couldn’t do it.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I could do it, but it would nearly kill me. I think the only way I could do a 24 hours stream is it was like a 24 hours gaming stream, and I had loads of Red Bull, and that way I would be pepped up with the adrenaline of doing the gaming as well as the Red Bull. But if it was just interviews, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I’d have to have my hat on backwards. It would be a tough show.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> It would be tough. But if people want me to do a 24 hours gaming stream just for fundraising, I suppose I could. But it’d have to be something where I was properly locked in. And it has to be on like a Saturday starting at maybe 07:00 pm on the Friday night and going to 07:00 pm on the Saturday evening. And that way I could go to sleep at like 7:30, and by 7:30 on Sunday, I’d have recovered. It have to be carefully planned. It has to be carefully planned.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> Mark. And I want to thank you for coming on, for inviting me on the show. It’s always a good show. There’s a little bit out of the box show, but we got a lot of out of the box things happening.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Have you got to go now?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I do have to run now. I got to be live at 04:00 pm. And we all got to make a living. But you guys keep giving to Mark Collett here, and when you’re done, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Jennifer Lopez says:</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> There you go! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> And keep giving to Mark Collett here. Support Mark Collett. He’s a stand up guy. And I do appreciate you guys supporting the show and coming on. I’ll be live at some time after four here in a few minutes.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Brilliant! Well, I’m going to do the rest of these very generous Superchats. Thank you so much, my friend. We’ve got to bat on. 36 months, if the aliens haven’t landed, you owe me a <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I don’t know if they’ll land. It could be interdimensional, it could be underneath the ocean. It might be something.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Listen to this absolute shilling! Do you know what?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> No, I’m going Hollywood. Hollywood had aliens coming out of the Pacific, so I’m going with Hollywood.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You know what? He’s moving the goalpost because he fears losing the bet. I’ve given him the 36 months, but now it’s not, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> I talked to UFOs. I didn’t say anything about aliens. I said UFOs. They may or may not involve something conventional. I don’t know.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, look, I’ve got 15 minutes.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> They might be AI from another world. What if they’re AI from another world? That’s technically not alien.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> He’s moving the goalpost. I’m not having this, Tim. I’m not having this. Look, you have a good night, my friend.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Aliens controlled by Israel?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I thought it was Trump controlling the aliens.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdock:</strong> No, he’s controlled too. Maybe he’s a hologram, who knows?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’ve got to answer these Superchats. Right, I’ll see you later, my friend. Do you have a good show? It’s been good.</p>
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<p>Right, we’re going to do the last of these Superchats with just me. It won’t be as entertaining because it is just me. Max One Anderson gave $1 and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Help. I drunk a Bud Light and started to fill like a woman. What should I do?”</span></h3>
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<p>Counter your Bud Light by drinking a pint of Peroni. That is what I would do. VM gave $3 thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hi. Mark, please get Woodlander back on sometime. He’s launched a new land buying initiative that would be good to talk about. By the way, happy 14th, on the 14th!”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, thank you so much! I will get him on. David Peterson gave $15. Thank you so much! And he said:</p>
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<p>Well, David Peterson, thank you so much for that Superchat. I will be doing an entire video for you on Friday.</p>
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<p>In fact, I have got one of my trademark 12 to 15 minutes videos teed up that I am doing as we speak. It’s all scripted and ready to go, so I’ll answer that for you on Friday.</p>
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<p>But as for the Nottingham killings, I spoke about this earlier. This is exactly why the big issue is immigration. It isn’t just Islam. These murders in Nottingham tell you that the multicultural society is fundamentally unstable. And it’s not just unstable because of Islam. It’s not a happy utopia plus Islam, which makes it rubbish. It is bad, not because of Islam, but because, by nature, multicultural societies don’t work with or without Islam. Anywhere you look in the world where you see a multicultural society, you find even naturally occurring multicultural societies can end in genocide and warfare.</p>
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<p>If you look at the British Isles themselves, how many times have the English, the Scots and the Welsh gone to war against each other? It’s actually worrying.</p>
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<p>But when you import people from all over the world, from vast distances away from one another, who have huge cultural, racial, ethnic and religious differences, you’re going to have these clashes. Now, this guy is obviously not a Muslim, he’s a West African. And I know that they’re going to say it’s mental health issues. I know that they’re going to say, this is a guy who was serious history of not being cared for in the community correctly, all that crap.</p>
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<p>But again, it’s a migrant.</p>
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<p>And I’ve got to say, he’s here legally. This is one of David Cameron or Boris Johnson’s guys, isn’t he? He came here legally. We were told legal migration will sort out all these problems. Well, it hasn’t. It’s just brought more problems.</p>
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<p>As I said many times before, illegal immigration is the tip of the iceberg. Legal immigration is the huge mass underneath the water that poses the real threat. Last year, if we’re taking government figures, 52,000 illegal immigrants came here. 1.2 million legal immigrants came here! How many legal immigrants are like this West African man in Nottingham? Who knows? It’s basically a crapshoot. How many of these people pose this threat? Well, I would say, how many is a significant amount. I was going to say a significant amount, but a significant amount. Who knows? Who knows?</p>
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<p>But what I’ll say is this. These people come from a part of the world where things like this are much more common than they are in the UK. By importing them here, we increase the likelihood of things like this happening in the UK. The safe path is not letting them in. Closed borders save lives. Open borders destroy lives.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:48:07]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-49"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Superchats – Mike Graham and Nigel Farage</span></h3>
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<p>Now, I’ve had a Superchat which came in offline. It’s from a good friend of ours called Marcus Reinsbury Mellish, whose Twitter handle is at Mellish. Marcus on Twitter and he asks:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Should we be encouraged by the likes of Mike Graham on Talk TV, opening his show last Friday with a monologue that mass immigration has wrecked this country? I’ve had a three year running debate with Mike on Twitter Reimigration, but he seems to have changed course. The whole show then took the theme, and caller after caller was saying the thought of things nationalists would say, I’ve noticed a real change in the Overton window lately. How encouraged should we be by this? PS. I’ve challenged him to invite Patriotic Alternative on the show.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, thank you so much for that, Marcus Reinsby Mellish at Mellish Marcus on Twitter. I’ll say I’m encouraged by people talking and about this more and more.</p>
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<p>However, and there is a big caveat to this, there is a big “<em>however</em>”. And the however is this. Fundamentally, we have to treat people like Mike Graham talking about our issues with cautious optimism. Mike Graham is always someone who historically said that race doesn’t matter, that he wanted more immigration, as long as it was legal, that people who talked about demographic change were either conspiracy theorists.</p>
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<p>Now, if he is genuinely changed, I am happy about this.</p>
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<p>And the other day when somebody sent me a video of Nigel Farage saying all this stuff about demographics and how it was very worrying, how big cities were changing and how he had a little rant about the changing. Demographics of cities like Birmingham and Manchester. All of that filled my heart with joy only for a few days ago, Nigel Farage To released a short video saying how his greatest fear was not of mass immigration, but was. That this mass immigration would lead to another British National Party emerging and would see genuine scary far-Right politicians coming to prominence in Britain.</p>
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<p>And that is something that I look at and it enrages me! Because people out there are getting so damn excited because Nigel Farage paid a little bit of lip service to our talking points. And as soon as he pays lip service to our talking points, he then dials it back. He dials it back by saying the big threat isn’t the migrants, the big threat is in fact the issue that the migrants might cause a genuine nationalist alternative to rise up, a group like Patriotic Alternative.</p>
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<p>Because what he wants is for people to settle for a Tory Party Mark II. And Tory Party Mark II is obviously either the Reform Party, which used to be called the Brexit Party that he used to head up, or it’s a new party that he’s going to form to talk about immigration.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:51:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So he takes millions and millions of pounds more in donations and leads people and another merry dance for him to cuck out. And you’ve got to remember, Nigel Farage did cuck out. When the Brexit Party took on Boris Johnson, Nigel Faraj said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“He would stand Brexit Party candidates in Conservative marginal seats to ensure that the Conservative Party were given a bloody nose over their bungling of Brexit.”</span></h3>
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<p>And what did he do? At the last minute he withdrew all of those candidates in those marginal seats.</p>
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<p>Why did he do that? Well, he did that because he’s always playing to the establishment, he’s always playing to their agenda, he’s always wanting to be part of that little crew, the people who make good money writing for newspapers. He secretly wishes that the Brexit vote had resulted in him becoming a Lord. And that tells you a lot about him. That’s why his biggest issue, that’s why his biggest issue is not immigration, it’s that immigration might lead to somebody like me gaining a foothold or having some real power in the UK.</p>
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<p>And that’s why I don’t trust him and that’s why I don’t trust Mark Graham, Mike Graham. Sorry.</p>
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<p>And I think that we should still be happy that Mike Graham is being forced to talk about what we’re talking about. But don’t get so excited about this! Please don’t get so excited about it! And not only should we get excited about this, but we need to hold this guy’s feet to the flames. If he’s starting to talk about it now, we should keep him talking about it. And we should force him to keep talking about it, because this is the biggest issue of our time. And it can’t be allowed to be just a flash in the pan.</p>
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<p>I’ve seen this all before. Remember the summer of BLM when thousands of new people came to watch us on Odysee and DLive? And then it trickled away. We don’t want this to be something people talk about and then move on to the next big thing, as if this is no longer an issue. This is now normal. It’s something that’s just happening. This has to be something we talk about relentlessly. I know it’s boring sometimes because how many times can you make a video on somebody being stabbed? How many times can you make a video on migrants pouring across the border or small boats or double dealing politicians letting more immigrants in? But we have to keep hammering this away! Because they’re saying 2066 is the figure that we get.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:53:43]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But it’s not going to be 2066, is it? It’s going to be something like 2055 at the rate we’re going. Maybe even late 2040s. We need to keep getting people like Mike Graham to talk about this.</p>
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<p>And well done! From the bottom of my heart. Thank you so much to everyone who’s put pressure on that guy. Keep it up! Cautious optimism. But let’s hope he’s not a Farage who ends up dialing it all back, only to say that he thinks the greatest threat isn’t the immigrants, it’s the far-Right that might benefit from those immigrants.</p>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-50"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Superchats — The Invaders Won’t Stop Coming</span></h3>
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<p>David Peterson gave another $5. Thank you so much, my friend. Very generous. Right. He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The invaders won’t stop coming and our government, whatever the party, won’t stop them. The number of the invaders in one day is greater than the number of protesters we have out against one migrant hotel. How can we realistically stop this?”</span></h3>
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<h3 id="MC20230615-51"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What We Need to Do to Succeed</span></h3>
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<p>Well, thank you for that rather sobering chat. We can stop this! We can stop this! But to stop this, we have to be sensible. We have to do this the right way. We can’t keep doing things in the tried and failed ways that we’ve done things in the past. We have to build a genuine community. We have to motivate the people within that community. And this has to be clean. It has to be accepting. Nationalism has to be something that is acceptable and that normal people can buy into!</p>
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<p>It can’t be an excuse for people to wander through the streets of our. Cities, having a few tinnies, throwing a couple of Romans and then going down to WeatherSpoons for a couple of beers, before getting a kebab on the way home. This has to be something that is smart, professional, and that women, children and families can come on board with if you look at the successful parties on the continent, they are well dressed, well disciplined, they are professional. They present a face that people can get on board with, that normal people can get on board with a great guy, a great friend of mine, he’s a really lovely chap. He rang me the other day and he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why do you think there has been a total lack of women on board the nationalist scene in the UK? But you go to Eastern Europe or you go to continental Europe and there’s loads of women on board?”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, the answer is quite simple. Look at the nature of their marches and the way they present themselves and look at the nature of our marches and the way we present ourselves. It’s important that we are the best we can be so that we’re a beacon of hope for people.</p>
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<p>When I went to that first Skegness demo, when there’s 400 people there, I met the most wonderful and lovely woman. She came there with her two daughters and her husband. And her and her two daughters had sat up the night before making homemade placards so that they could hold them up at that demo. I took her address and I actually sent her a gift in the post to say thank you to her and her family, for being there, because that’s the kind of people we need on board.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:56:48]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And I urge everyone, please be with us in Scampton on the 12 August. Look out for the dates, look out for where we’re meeting. Be there! But be there without the tinnies, without the cans, without the bottles of wine. Be there smartly dressed, well turned out. Bring your wife, bring your children, and let’s make this like Skegness one. Like Cannock one. Where it’s smart, decent people that the public will turn out and join and get involved with. That’s what we need to be!</p>
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<p>I’ve had a message here saying that I’ve missed a Superchat, but I haven’t. I’ve got some Superchats here. I can’t see any Superchats, I can refresh my page, I can’t see any other Superchats. I’ve got some on Odysee from Scaredycat. She gave $18. Thank you much, she said.”</p>
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<p>Hi again, Mark. Your lovely chat with Serena JB’s question last week was answered by New York City’s black Mayor Eric Adams, who wants to use the public budget to fund incoming migrants to live in private residences. This can be read on Mr Lee Rogers website, InfoStormer.com. President Trump opposes this.”</p>
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<p>Well, thank you so much for letting us know that. And Michael 57D said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Mark, if this isn’t you, you may want to contact Telegram and let them know he’s using your image and name.”</span></h3>
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<p>Yes, he is. Thank you for pointing that out. But I don’t see any other Superchats and we are at the end of the show, but if you have Superchatted, please if I have missed a Superchat let me know. But there are no more on Odysee or Entropy, so I have read out everything we have had tonight, so please, if you have Superchatted, it doesn’t appear to have gone through. I can refresh both pages again and see and there is nothing fresh on Entropy and I’m refreshing Odysee again and there is nothing fresh on Odysee and if somebody has tipped something, like a tiny amount, like a fraction of a Superchat, I’ve missed that. Then again, I apologise, but I can’t actually see anything that I’ve missed.</p>
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<p>actually see anything that I’ve missed.</p>
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<p>So yeah, I’ve gone through them all. There is nothing else there.</p>
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<p>So if you have Superchatted, your card will not have been charged because it hasn’t shown up.</p>
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<p>Anyway, that brings us to the end of the show and I just want to give a quick shout out to everybody who is part of the protest movement in the UK. Please be with our protest in Lincolnshire against the housing of migrants at RAF Scampton on the 12 August. I will be there as a guest speaker and we have guest speakers from other movements and other parties, including the English Democrats, including the Independent Nationalist Network. And David Clews from Unity News Network says he is going to be there as well. So there’s going to be some big names. This is a big cross party promotion, so please be there. It’s being organised by the Nationalist Unity Group, which I was kindly invited to be a part of and I attended a meeting with them last month.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:00:05]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So if you can be there, please do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that just brings me to the end of the show. Massive thanks to Tim for being here. Massive thanks to everyone who donated on the show.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you want to donate to me outside of the show, please write to me at mark@fullerwesterman.com or consider giving some crypto-currency. All is very, very gratefully accepted because remember, these donations are what I use to basically pay my cost of living, which allows me to work full-time for this movement. But thank you so much to those who did donate tonight.</p>
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<p>Finally, I would like to say I am back on Friday with my prerecorded video. I am also back on Friday with Dr. David Duke. If you guys would like me to do some kind of fun stream on Sunday night, I am more than happy to. I can pull something together. If you would like me to do a bit of sort of retro gaming with a friend, or if you’d like me to discuss something that’s a little bit irregular, we tend to do those streams. They’re a lot of fun. Message me if you want me to do something like that.</p>
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<p>And as always, the biggest thanks for this show goes to this amazing audience. Thank you for joining me tonight. At peak, we had over 400 concurrent viewers across Odysee and Dlive.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Obviously, we have lost those Radio Albion viewers tonight. If you can like the stream and if you can share it after the show, that would be very much appreciated and I will get the replay up on Odysee and BitChute ASAP. I will see you next week, same place, same time. And our special guest next week is Nathan Demigo. Really looking forward to that because I haven’t spoken to him before, so that should be something really special. Thank you so much! Have a great evening. Stay strong, keep fighting and I’ll see you all again soon. Thank you and good night.</p>
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<p>Mark Collett<br />
1 day ago<br />
Pinned by @MarkCollett<br />
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Beer Hall Pooch<br />
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<p>@MarkCollett<br />
Missed comment from Reed Johnson for $5: &#8220;Mark Collett Is the decline of the death penalty a symbol of civilisational decline? Why has the death penalty been canceled? And what&#8217;s it going to take to bring it back?&#8221;</p>
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_GRITCULT<br />
23 hours ago<br />
I respect you for standing up to Mr. Murdock on the ufo alien topic. You stood your ground and kept bringing the conversation back to whats really affecting whites. Mass immigration. You gained alot of respect from that interaction. I immensely respect Tim, but thank you for keeping the conversation somewhat on the rails. Hail Mark, Hail Tim, Hail Victory.</p>
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MasterOfStf<br />
1 day ago<br />
Toddlers being stabbed is an extremely small price to pay for juicy kebabs on every street corner!</p>
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<p>@SCrusader<br />
18 hours ago<br />
The normies would agree.</p>
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Neqis<br />
1 day ago<br />
I&#8217;ve never heard Mark say &#8220;bloody&#8221; so many times. This was the most bri&#8217;ish he ever sounded lol.</p>
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Sir<br />
1 day ago<br />
ffs &#8211; hes not saying he believes in aliens hes saying the establishment is thinking of using the idea to aid their cause</p>
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<p>@MaDaZi<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Mark can be somewhat dense and simple-minded&#8230;</p>
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The Last Gatepost on the Left<br />
11 hours ago<br />
I do agree. With all that he has said, all the good done, Mark was not quick on the ball with Covid being used in the exact same way, I.e aiding the establishments goal. He has said he was, but compared to say James Corbett, Dave Cullen, Thomas Sheridan, Morgoth… he was months behind. Huge respect to Tim Murdoch here. I’m in total agreement.</p>
<p>@SPWKarlsson<br />
1 day ago<br />
[ <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f47d.png" alt="👽" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />ALIEN LIVES MATTER<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> ]</p>
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<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
Ana Kasparian even admitted she herself has been guilty of antiwhite racism.</p>
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<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
Jews are definitely great at turning vices into profits for themselves</p>
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Mr<br />
21 hours ago<br />
What a treat to listen to a stream with two of my very favorite gents. Never stop your respective work, guys. Deus vult.</p>
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Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Sleep tight ALL</p>
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thanks folks. Have a great night.</p>
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Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
They didn&#8217;t invent porn, but certainly mainstreamed it.</p>
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<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
Jefferson Lee would be a great guest.</p>
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<p>@MaDaZi<br />
20 hours ago<br />
I cringed watching Mark not able to understand what Tim was saying about the UFO agenda&#8230;</p>
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<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
thats what happened in canada with the truckers. it just fizzled out after they had the whole of canada&#8217;s balls in their hands</p>
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<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
Sargon seems to have shifted on this.</p>
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1ec-1f1e7.png" alt="🇬🇧" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> The official Patriotic Alternative website:<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
Is the decline of the death penalty a symbol of civilisational decline? Why has the death penalty been canceled? And what&#8217;s it going to take to bring it back?</p>
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Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
14s for Mark as the hardest-working Nat in the Movement.</p>
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
You missed my superchat: &#8220;Is the decline of the death penalty a symbol of civilisational decline? Why has the death penalty been canceled? And what&#8217;s it going to take to bring it back?</p>
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Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
SPOT ON, MARK! Revolution, not reaction</p>
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<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
yea he&#8217;s trying to take the wind out of the sails of LEGITIMATE criticism</p>
<p>@MarkCollett</p>
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<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
its the ethnicity. the religion is the BACKDOOR</p>
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<p>@spudgunsandcandyfloss<br />
9 hours ago<br />
In the early 1990&#8217;s the Alcubierre drive was theoretically engineered. This &#8220;engine&#8221; is a faster than light device on paper. Now, if this devise was engineered on paper in 1990, how long do you think it will be before it will be constructed IRL? 100 years? 1000 years? How about 10,000 years? [how many civilisations in our galaxy are 10,000 years or more ahead of us?] Funny thing is, the theoretical energy signature hypothesised to be generated by this device has been detected many times in our own galaxy.</p>
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Sir<br />
1 day ago<br />
sorry mark that was an insult to my intelligrnce &#8211; please dont talk as if you are the only person that knows things</p>
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<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great stream. That alien rant went a bit over the rails, but it was tolerable. G&#8217;bye white folks. Now I am off to watch werewolf flick The Howling (nothing can beat American Werewolf in London btw)</p>
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<p>@What2<br />
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<p>@Lampshade_Denier<br />
Exactly, the backdoors existed, jews used it to its fullest</p>
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0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
Fare well and Hail the Gods</p>
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<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@What2<br />
because I don&#8217;t think that Jews are the root of all problems. Because to me it&#8217;s a little bit more complex than that. Like pornography. Jew didn&#8217;t invent one. It existed long before a first Jew stepped on US soil. They realized they could make a huge profit on it and they legalized it.</p>
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Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
sounds like farage is classic example of controlled opposition</p>
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<p>@Fascist-Freddy<br />
17 hours ago<br />
How many of you trust Tucker Carlson?</p>
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<p>@Fascist-Freddy<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Tim might be right. There is a reason they&#8217;re using this aliens narrative. And it is not because aliens and UFOs exist. Tim was not saying that aliens exist. He is saying that they&#8217;re going to use it for something down the road. And he does not know what that is.</p>
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<p>@signmeupfam<br />
20 hours ago<br />
TIm is the best, always on the money. UFO shit is propaganda, exactly like he is saying.</p>
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Link to White Rabbit Radio&#8217;s show live now!<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
goodnight all</p>
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Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
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<p>@Michael57DE<br />
1 day ago<br />
$1.00<br />
Mark, if this isn&#8217;t you, then you may want to contact Telegram and let them know. He&#8217;s using your image and name.</p>
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Aaron Kasparov<br />
1 day ago<br />
Most people in the mainstream are what they&#8217;re paid to be. They know how to get their bread buttered and who&#8217;s doing the buttering.</p>
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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Dissident Echoes<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Tim Murdock is always a great guest.</p>
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<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
not really. pornography existed in Europe before Jews had any even remotely to do with it. And I don;t think a Jew was in US in the 17th century at least.</p>
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Sir<br />
1 day ago<br />
this is confirmation of your narcisim&#8230; dont you ever examine your own behaviour?</p>
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Sir<br />
1 day ago<br />
youre missing the point mark,,, maybe youre not as smaRT AS you think &#8211; oh btw, the earth is flat</p>
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Sir<br />
1 day ago<br />
the earth is flat,,, youve swallowed the establishments globe earth propaganda</p>
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<p>@GermanHonkler81<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Murdock strikes me as confused and slightly unhinged.</p>
<p>The Last Gatepost on the Left<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Like Tim Murdoch, I am not sure how the UFO conspiracy will end, but there is clearly an agenda rolling out with the MSM continuing this narrative, that should be plain to see, therefore it must be questioned. After the last three years, and to simply dismiss it as a &#8220;nothing burger&#8221; is dangerous. Just ask the millions of vaccinated now who regret having believed the lies and took the experimental shot to their arm. If this UFO debate has a possibility here to divide conclusions between two very like minded people who share common ideologies on immigration, perhaps its being seen as fracturing effect coming from within, the Globalists attempt at divide and conquer?</p>
<p>Awake since 1997<br />
12 hours ago<br />
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<p>King Tut<br />
16 hours ago<br />
I too followed the Counter-Jihad movement, before realizing it was mostly financed by Jews, who unironically all support muslims coming to white countries. all these Jew funded anti-Jihad people and groups are all clueless on what is happening to whites. whenever you try to bring the Jew behind the immigration on these sort of sites, you get warned, and eventually banned.</p>
<p>MTaylor<br />
21 hours ago<br />
1:12:00<br />
Do the conspiracy stuff for April Fool&#8217;s or even make a second channel just for the lols</p>
<p>@ИванКожедуб<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Interesting conversation! Everyone is either into nationalism, or UFOs/conspiracies etc., and I&#8217;ve been waiting years for the two to merge.</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago<br />
Bye chaps</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damigo is ace</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
Nice</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
100 percent true.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
THX I&#8217;m in the NL. I just thought it would be helpful to have a link to the demo in the chat.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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1 day ago<br />
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Read up on spengler</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
contact your organiser</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ I’ll have to check when the first Jew came to the U S but I believe it was in the late 1600’s. I don’t know the history of pornography in europe but I do the U S somewhat. no expert</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
Thanks mate. Much appreciated.</p>
<p>Aaron Kasparov<br />
1 day ago<br />
Depends on who&#8217;s being penalized. The thing itself isn&#8217;t a sign one way or another. It can be used for good or bad, imo.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
Link for the demo?</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
I&#8217;ll tell him. He&#8217;ll address it next week</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@What2<br />
It would seem so</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
I think it is. Its a decline of morality, rather than civilization as a whole</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
the Iron curtain seemed to have protected them from anti white propaganda for awhile</p>
<p>@Stan1<br />
1 day ago<br />
Cheers Mark, have a good rest of the week folks &#8211; 14</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
until next time frens</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>Aaron Kasparov<br />
1 day ago<br />
Another difference is the UK has been saturated in Anti-White propaganda for the past 70 years or so. Eastern Europe, not as much.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
We gave them the back door, thats on us. They used it, thats on them.</p>
<p>Speak your mind<br />
1 day ago<br />
Have a good night everyone. 14.</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
1 day ago<br />
well put Mark 14</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
Jews have been on U S soil almost from the beginning. Jews were always behind porn going back to the previous centuries</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Of course, 100%</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@What2<br />
do you at least agree that we also are responsible for this mess? Because we allowed it?</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Except for PA!!!</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Yea, you&#8217;re just trying to go down the path of least resistance. It be what it be.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@NightNationReview<br />
Great Minds \o</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
sick of it honestly</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
agree 100%. Sort it with him</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
lolberts seizing the modes of nationalist rhetoric when the system requires them, a tale as old as time</p>
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1 day ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
o7</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Family &gt; larping</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
He says similar things.</p>
<p>𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐇𝐓 𝐍𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍 𝐑𝐄𝐕𝐈𝐄𝐖<br />
1 day ago<br />
can&#8217;t be a LARP</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
nice slip</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
farage says our biggest threat is china this is his weakness</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
lol motorboat</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Or entropy has a jackpot function</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8220;The greatest threat are the little green men.&#8221;</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Perhaps</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Jews bring them to european nations, they dont have the agency to navigate/save/plan to cross the globe and land in a completely different climate. U dont want to focus on jews because its where all the risk comes from.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
our side doesn’t like to repeat ourselves nonstop. mark is right. repeating our talking points consistently works</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
TY</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
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<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Every Person woken up to what is happening is a plus for all the efforts</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Oh Oh stuck button on the keyboard</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ScaredyCat<br />
Thanks again for donating! Wow!</p>
<p>ScaredyCat<br />
1 day ago<br />
$3.00<br />
HiAgain,Mark:Your LovelyChatter SerenaJB’s question LastWeek was answered by NewYorkCity’s black mayor Eric Adams, who wants to use the public budget to fund incoming migrants to live in private residences !! This can be read on Mr. Lee Roger’s website “info stormer (dot) com. Pres.TrumpOpposesThis.</p>
<p>ScaredyCat<br />
1 day ago<br />
$3.00<br />
HiAgain,Mark:Your LovelyChatter SerenaJB’s question LastWeek was answered by NewYorkCity’s black mayor Eric Adams, who wants to use the public budget to fund incoming migrants to live in private residences !! This can be read on Mr. Lee Roger’s website “info stormer (dot) com. Pres.TrumpOpposesThis.</p>
<p>ScaredyCat<br />
1 day ago<br />
$3.00<br />
HiAgain,Mark:Your LovelyChatter SerenaJB’s question LastWeek was answered by NewYorkCity’s black mayor Eric Adams, who wants to use the public budget to fund incoming migrants to live in private residences !! This can be read on Mr. Lee Roger’s website “info stormer (dot) com. Pres.TrumpOpposesThis.</p>
<p>ScaredyCat<br />
1 day ago<br />
$3.00<br />
HiAgain,Mark:Your LovelyChatter SerenaJB’s question LastWeek was answered by NewYorkCity’s black mayor Eric Adams, who wants to use the public budget to fund incoming migrants to live in private residences !! This can be read on Mr. Lee Roger’s website “info stormer (dot) com. Pres.TrumpOpposesThis.</p>
<p>ScaredyCat<br />
1 day ago<br />
$3.00<br />
HiAgain,Mark:Your LovelyChatter SerenaJB’s question LastWeek was answered by NewYorkCity’s black mayor Eric Adams, who wants to use the public budget to fund incoming migrants to live in private residences !! This can be read on Mr. Lee Roger’s website “info stormer (dot) com. Pres.TrumpOpposesThis.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Lampshade_Denier<br />
Haha</p>
<p>ScaredyCat<br />
1 day ago<br />
$3.00<br />
HiAgain,Mark:Your LovelyChatter SerenaJB’s question LastWeek was answered by NewYorkCity’s black mayor Eric Adams, who wants to use the public budget to fund incoming migrants to live in private residences !! This can be read on Mr. Lee Roger’s website “info stormer (dot) com. Pres.TrumpOpposesThis.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
%^</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
k</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
Thanks again for donating.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
Please quit the huge block text</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mike Graham was a great worker in 80&#8217;s Florida championship wrestling</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
Acta non verba</p>
<p>Better Based Than Erased<br />
1 day ago<br />
and now they&#8217;ve placed the foreigner in charge..</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@What2<br />
i kinda see that as double way track. on one track yo have Jews, who even if you expel them, you&#8217;d still have the other track and those are these migrants. Because they think they have to come here, believing that life is easier here than in their countries.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
shalom</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
6 times?</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
She&#8217;s an ignorant shitlib</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
xD</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
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<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
Ah, she is Armenian and not a very based person. (are Armenians white?)</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
I&#8217;ve seen sex changed men with better boob jobs</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
reform and farage are household names and are seen as safe hands</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Yes, because they realize Europe is more relaxed on punishments especially against outsiders because jews are facilitating the whole thing. In iran jews dont have power, so they hang people from cranes if they commit heinous crimes</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
farage wants to be with bojo</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
The loud mouth kinda hot chick from The Young Turks.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@italix<br />
IQ is a social construct designed to hinder me becoming a 1980&#8217;s supermodel in a high cut bikini</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
Conservatives across the West have shifted to talking about Antiwhiteism.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@HarryHoller<br />
Well said. they&#8217;re basically this</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@What2<br />
that&#8217;s why they escape to Europe.</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
1 day ago<br />
They are sleeper cell soldiers not migrants.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
OPEN BORDERS FOR ISRAEL!!!!!</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
in iran for example</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
but 80 percent of crimes committed are from people from Middle East Africa or even India.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
disagree mark. they hang people for murder and pedophilia</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
no non-whites, kick them out</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Ana Kasparian<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Kasparian</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
o/ :mouse: :flag_israel:</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
Who is she?</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
Please quit the block text</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
:clinking_beer_mugs:</p>
<p>Harry Holler<br />
1 day ago<br />
yep. Just waiting on the day the race riots begin and they are called into action by their masters.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
https://www.patrioticalternative.org.uk/glass_in_the_eye_smashing_the_overton_window</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
EVEN ANA KASPARIAN IS TALKING ABOUT ANTIWHITE RACISM</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
England for the English. My grandmother was from England and when she went back in the early 90’s , she was terribly dismayed by how her former neighborhood was now Pakistanis</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>italix<br />
1 day ago<br />
Rocket scientists and brain surgeons</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago<br />
No immigration of any kind.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
dont u think all abrahamic faiths are problematic or part of the problem?</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
havent watched him in couple of years, but back in the day ufo&#8217;s were involved nearly every show</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
It is islam, it is different culture, it is different ethnicity, it is language.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Dude no. his take on this show is on how they would use it for propaganda</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
No. He works on propaganda and psy-ops</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
no Wotan he talks about pro white issues but delves into various conspiracy theories at times</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
Not even Scrabble?</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
I am happy for woodlander. I&#8217;ll probably join it.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
LIVE after this show</p>
<p>@whiterabbitradio</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> DEBUTS TODAY: The Woodlander&#8217;s new website:<br />
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<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8220;The movement was shattered in 2023 by the Alien Question &#8221;</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
:alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien:</p>
<p>GhostNote<br />
1 day ago<br />
ty tim and crew</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
Lol. Exactly what you were doing.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
aliens from beyond the ice wall</p>
<p>@Stan1<br />
1 day ago<br />
:confused_1: :illuminati_1:</p>
<p>Norman<br />
1 day ago<br />
Terror from the deep.</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
HE SAW IT ON THE TELLY MARK, SO IT&#8217;S TRUE</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
lmao</p>
<p>@Stan1<br />
1 day ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
I dont play games</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f600.png" alt="😀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>GhostNote<br />
1 day ago<br />
Dimensional Portal&#8217;s</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
hail tim 14</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Haha They&#8217;re already here !</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@karvakake<br />
Kamala from the block</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
good show Mark</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thank you guys \o</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
aliens COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMING</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
mark is an inspiration to American pro whites</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
loreal, youre worth it tim lol</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
1 day ago<br />
Farewell Tim 14</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Nice one, Tim. I&#8217;ll stay up for your show</p>
<p>@dsallen7<br />
1 day ago<br />
\o to Tim</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
You&#8217;re very transparent.</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
jenny from the block</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Aliens coming!!!!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
learn to read</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@revoltagainstmodernworld<br />
What was her job or profession? Because she had a lot of money to fly all over the world.</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Churchill is a common gentile name too.</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago<br />
Westons 24 hr streams are fire o/</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
24 hours gaming stream would require alcohol</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
i tried redbull, makes me pee too much</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
tim do wig shows sometimes as a joke hahaha</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Imagine someone like Elon hiding that beautiful dome</p>
<p>@revoltagainstmodernworld<br />
1 day ago<br />
Simonsen is a very common Danish gentile surname. It’s occurrence (at least in that spelling/pronunciation &amp; other standard variations) is very rarely found in Jewish communities or in Israel (except when having been changed from a previously existing surname).<br />
https://forebears.io/surnames/Simonsen</p>
<p>The Resident Baker<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SamMYorks<br />
I got one from you only this morniing.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
PA Film Club: FILM REVIEW &#8211; Heat<br />
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<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
lmao</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Kilmer is not doing well.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
i NEED to see him with a wig</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
Hey, scroll up and look what you wrote. Stop changing things after you said them.</p>
<p>GhostNote<br />
1 day ago<br />
Bald extension&#8217;s</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
lmfao</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
lol <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f44f-1f3fb.png" alt="👏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
I didn&#8217;t know this about Tim.</p>
<p>@LordAragorn<br />
1 day ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@max1anderson<br />
Drink a six pack immediately. Crash or crash through&#8230;</p>
<p>GhostNote<br />
1 day ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
l&#8217;oreal</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
youre lying</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@max1anderson<br />
Lol</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
LMAO</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Pooch has a White rabbit hat BOOM!</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Drink a real beer next?</p>
<p>@lostnation<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mikayla Petersonstein screwed Tate</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@max1anderson<br />
Thanks again for donating.</p>
<p>GhostNote<br />
1 day ago<br />
I want one of his hat&#8217;s</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
hail</p>
<p>@SamMYorks</p>
<p>@max1anderson<br />
1 day ago<br />
$1.00<br />
Help! i drunk a bud light. i am starting to feel like a women. what should i do?</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Southern sets off my J-dar. Maybe a hybrid.</p>
<p>Sam Melia<br />
1 day ago<br />
I still don’t understand how people are considering if these accounts are real, is it your first day on the Internet?</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Subroyal<br />
k</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
you said her Rabbi</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Did Peterson shower with his daughter too?</p>
<p>@Subroyal<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
might not be true.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
shes not jewish i think. i dont think you know what youre talking about. i presume</p>
<p>GhostNote<br />
1 day ago<br />
Talking Donkey</p>
<p>@lostnation<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Subroyal<br />
it was Jordan Petersonsteins daughter who screwed tate</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
Ride the T-rex? IRON SKY 2? xD</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
I want a demon pig like in the bible.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AlephTheNemesis<br />
Thanks for your support.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1fad6.png" alt="🫖" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Tea Time with Sam &amp; Laura on Odysee:</p>
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<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SamMYorks<br />
hahah, good one.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
I would like a pet T -Rex</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Subroyal<br />
that thought is disgusting</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
lol maybe get F U money and then come back to the movement</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
Bit mormon like with the sundee getups</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SamMYorks<br />
Sam the Man with the Masterplan</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
So do you really believe she turned her back on her own Jewish people?</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
recent sepentza video tells you all about sa</p>
<p>@AlephTheNemesis<br />
1 day ago<br />
$5.00<br />
Keep up the cross-promotion of dissident content creators. Should organize a 24 hour super show with a slate of guests and panels.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>@Subroyal<br />
1 day ago<br />
didn’t Lauren Southern have sex with Andrew Tate?</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
LMAO</p>
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<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
what do you think. she worked for rabbi media previously</p>
<p>Sam Melia<br />
1 day ago<br />
we could do a full-time channel parodying the mainstream right</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mel Gibson needs to direct that movie</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
T-Rex: good band</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Duh-tch Reform is kooky.</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
but what side was she on, before she changed, like you said?</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
dont move to sa anyone</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
very</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
pro white yes</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Speilberg is Duh-tch/Jewish.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
why would anyone move to sa&#8230;</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
its in the name yeh</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Orania (Afrikaner town in South Africa):<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orania</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WolfBarney<br />
Loomer is j</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
flippin eck</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
yes</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
moving to SA?</p>
<p>GhostNote<br />
1 day ago<br />
mildly</p>
<p>@JackRoberts28<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@iHypocrite<br />
did a show on Laura Southern. I believe Rollo Tomassi spoke to Southern husband</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
I can&#8217;t deal with tattoos or plastic surgery. F that.</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
Changed to our side from what?</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
Haha, speaking of plastic surgery, Faith used to hang with Laura Loomer</p>
<p>GhostNote<br />
1 day ago<br />
The Good alien&#8217;s or the bad Alien&#8217;s ?</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
I haven&#8217;t had my pack yet, looking forward to it.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
faith Goldy got married to a pro white and had kids and got away from the movement which is fine. She seemed better than most</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ScaredyCat<br />
Thanks for your dedicated support.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
faith goldy genuinely came across like she changed sides to our end last time i saw. but it was a long time ago. a year or two again</p>
<p>ScaredyCat<br />
1 day ago<br />
$3.00<br />
Hi,WhiteRabbit: When U used to wear a cap, there was band of shadow acrossYourEyes. I also saw photograph of American soldier awkwardly lining up elderly villager against his hut,I thought as a project to get iris scan of allAfghanis during the 20-year attack on them by U.S.A.gov’t. Why’d U dropCap?</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Theres no one to blame, they will forcefully unite everyone under one regime</p>
<p>The Resident Baker<br />
1 day ago<br />
At least E.T. wanted to go home.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
aliens did 9/11. Q told me</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
I have cash on the hip. £1.50 for the Lauren smash. I can handle that</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
Do you think people could be saying things to get you to follow them?</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
I saw Laurens fat ass hanging out of her slut shorts on that documentary and just went JFC what have we come to?</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
not even for 0.01.</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
Whittaker <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
are you confusing lauren southern with faith goldy but i think faith goldy is 100% white (greek ancestry)</p>
<p>billybrown<br />
1 day ago<br />
some people can come back</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
never heard of Simonson is really a Jewish surname or not. people said it was and some said it isn’t</p>
<p>@AlbionForever<br />
1 day ago<br />
I got attacked by numerous of her simps for calling her out back in the day</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
hmmm</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WolfBarney<br />
Goldy</p>
<p>billybrown<br />
1 day ago<br />
dam</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
Oh ok, thanks</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
AAAAAAH</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WolfBarney<br />
last time i saw a video of her, she was competely pro white</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
this gon be guud</p>
<p>𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐇𝐓 𝐍𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍 𝐑𝐄𝐕𝐈𝐄𝐖<br />
1 day ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Faith Plastic Surgery? Yuk.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AlbionForever<br />
I think she is Canadian.</p>
<p>@AlbionForever<br />
1 day ago<br />
Faith Goldy was just as bad, she posed with members of the JDL during her mayoral campaign</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Malaysia 63.5% Sunni Islam</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
Thanks for your continued support.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
You pay more for a movie about a fitter and turner ?</p>
<p>Qbeck<br />
1 day ago<br />
Remember when Laruan said Milo was a conservative leader&#8230;that was funny.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
yes</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
Lauren Southern makes me think whatever happened to her friend Faith Goldy?</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Lauren Southernwitz is disgusting.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
This is why I am allergic to simping to right wing content women. pathetic utterly pathetic.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Diogenes<br />
1 day ago<br />
tell Laura, I hate her (parody of old song)</p>
<p>A new channel, man!<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@NightNationReview<br />
yes it is</p>
<p>@AlbionForever<br />
1 day ago<br />
She&#8217;s not jewish, she&#8217;s Danish</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hard to argue that but watch as you get beaten down/antagonized for your concerned</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
More than obvious she isn&#8217;t on your side</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Ok, make it £1.50 for the Lauren smash. Final offer</p>
<p>The Resident Baker<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@NightNationReview<br />
Yes</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
id believe that judging by the way she talked to him</p>
<p>𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐇𝐓 𝐍𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍 𝐑𝐄𝐕𝐈𝐄𝐖<br />
1 day ago<br />
isn&#8217;t her real name (((Simonson)))?</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
no mark doesn’t have an account pushing digital currency to my knowledge. most definitely a scam</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago<br />
I would have bred her if she wasn&#8217;t a mudshark.</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
How was she the darling of the Right, when she&#8217;s not really white</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
She is equivalent of Katie Hopkins</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
For sure</p>
<p>The Resident Baker<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
LMAO</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
the whole internet told her not to race mix. shes the worst</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
ah</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
she has a made up name. Don&#8217;t know why you guys follow people like her and Milo.</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
I think she&#8217;s Danish</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
I bet Stefan molyneux banged her out along with many others in the alt lite and Alt Right at the time</p>
<p>@AlbionForever<br />
1 day ago<br />
Pettibone was far more fit anyway</p>
<p>@Michael57DE<br />
1 day ago<br />
$5.00<br />
Hail Mark. Hail Tim. Hail the Gods. Mark, do you have a second Telegram account where you promote digital currency? Or is that an impersonation?</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ourresidentbaker<br />
Well, her allegiance is quite clear. She defends jews and attacks WNs who name the jew.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
Huh?</p>
<p>Norman<br />
1 day ago<br />
Isn&#8217;t she Jewish? Real surname Simonsen?</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
what is her relevance? she a nationalist?</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
I&#8217;ll give Lauren £1 to smash her LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
made up name</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
agreed.</p>
<p>White-Plague<br />
1 day ago<br />
Listen to Murdoch Murdoch to learn about Lauren Southern.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@What2<br />
Lauren Southern</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
Laura Southern</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
Politicians and Christians worry so much about the ones at the border. But they don&#8217;t care about us.</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark is on fire <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f600.png" alt="😀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
who is he talking about?</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
simping is gay but simping for a older race mixer with a kid is so pathetic</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Help this channel by hitting the <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> icon for a like!</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
shes revolting</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ourresidentbaker<br />
and how did she have so much money to be flying all over the world? Did she even have a real job?</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Lampshade_Denier<br />
Have You unblocked me ? Yay !</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
She can celebrate brown fatherless day now.</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago<br />
Based Mark</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
e-hubby, living the dream</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
ya and the other documentary she made about open borders was focusing on non white victims of open borders</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
i cant even put a face to who mark is talking about.</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
she have an onlyfans?</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
She married Asian (non white husband). F her.</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
one decent film from one messed up woman</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark Collet documentary | The Truth About Lauren Southern:<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" class="wp-embedded-content" sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" title="The TRUTH About Hope Not Hate, Lauren Southern &amp; Caolan Robertson" width="459" height="344" src="https://www.bitchute.com/embed/BXj7IS2s59Y/?feature=oembed#?secret=pKSO71mmKj" data-secret="pKSO71mmKj" frameborder="0"></iframe></p>
<p>Zoidberg<br />
1 day ago<br />
that France stabbing glows</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago<br />
she’s a skank</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
jerry (((springer))) haaha</p>
<p>The Resident Baker<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
I&#8217;ve seen some posts claiming that she is Jewish, or at least part Jewish.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
well they should stop cucking out to Turkey. Albeit I give them they are not that overly religious as other muslims. and some actually identify as Serbs&#8230;(to my chagrin).</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
Isn’t Lauren’s husband a Hapa?</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8220;She&#8217;s the victim&#8221; again</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@What2<br />
agree, all designed to worship the chosen</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Dude, its all three of them. ABRAHAMIC faiths. Its called ABRAHAMIC for a reason.</p>
<p>Zoidberg<br />
1 day ago<br />
wtf is wrong with this gd app rn</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
Lauren Southern, Drama Queen</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
And she is a race mixer. And boos who name the jew&#8230;</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
lauren is a whore</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
Jewishness and Islam and reflection of each other.</p>
<p>Zoidberg<br />
1 day ago<br />
that france stabbing glows</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
AntiRacist Hitler | White Rabbit Radio video:<br />
<iframe class="wp-embedded-content" sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" title="AntiRacist Hitler" src="https://odysee.com/%24/embed/%40whiterabbitradio%3A9%2FAntiRacist-Hitler%3A3#?secret=9RD6mxGw8S" data-secret="9RD6mxGw8S"></iframe></p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
lmao</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
and that syrian christian is spiritually muslim.</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
I think the case Mark was talking about with the mentally subnormal guy was Derek Bentley. The &#8220;let him have it&#8221; was said BY the mentally subnormal guy and the other guy shot the police officer.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
*Tony Robinson</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Stan1<br />
Thanks for your dedicated support.</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
people like tommy robinson</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
But Mark majority of these crimes are still committed by the Muslim.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ourresidentbaker<br />
:thumbs_up:</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
all the abrahamic faiths are back doors into civilizations</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
Wikipedia page on the UFO thing is pretty good at presenting the claims as essentially BS<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Grusch_UFO_claims_and_whistleblower_complaints#Reporting_and_commentary_on_Grusch&#8217;s_claims</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Stan1<br />
Thanks again for donating!</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
There was a film about the case with Christopher Eccleston.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
ah&#8230;they have their own delusions.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
BOOM, correct. Its got to do with the ethnics</p>
<p>@Stan1<br />
1 day ago<br />
100<br />
Great show, and guest as well</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
It&#8217;s still unknown wether the guy meant &#8220;let him have the gun&#8221; or &#8220;shoot him&#8221;.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>@Diogenes<br />
1 day ago<br />
handsome too</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Stan1<br />
:fire_up:</p>
<p>The Resident Baker<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
My pleasure Reed.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
Yes, and the rise of the industrial bourgeoisie and the banking class</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
(((abrahamic))) faiths</p>
<p>The Resident Baker<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
Hello mate. Hope you&#8217;re well</p>
<p>@Stan1<br />
1 day ago<br />
400<br />
Heard JP Morgan paid $290M as settlement to the victims of Epstein. Looks like possibly hush money, with lots of cover ups</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
same thing&#8230;</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
they still get whites. It&#8217;s the nonwhites being allowed to go free</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
:ok_hand:</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ourresidentbaker<br />
Thanks for your ongoing support.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
probably it is. given how many bleeding heart libfucks bitch about human rights.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
Thanks for the insight</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ourresidentbaker<br />
BRO</p>
<p>Zoidberg<br />
1 day ago<br />
nah Jazz is done</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
gay reichs</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
lol</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
the decline of the death penalty seems to be correlated to the rise in power of the shitlib</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
My pleasure :thumbs_up:</p>
<p>The Resident Baker<br />
1 day ago<br />
$5.00<br />
Superb show as usual. Tim is a great guest, and his takes are excellent.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
he was british.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
Dead penalty was full revoked (even for treason) in 1998 by Labour who knew they were committing treason.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
Thank you for your donation! :heart: :heart: :heart:</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
I don&#8217;t understand why anybody would want to support mass immigration, it doesn&#8217;t make sense to me.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
Like I said, I am not afraid for Asians. They are hardcore when it comes to traditionalism.</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
that video was empowering <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f600.png" alt="😀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>White-Plague<br />
1 day ago<br />
I hope he goes to China</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WolfBarney<br />
Likewise. I have nothing sensible that relates to the real world to listen to while at work.</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
churchill wasnt one of us</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Johnny Somali</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
My Sunday ritual has changed now that there&#8217;s no FTN</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
$5.00<br />
Is the decline of the death penalty a symbol of civilisational decline? Why has the death penalty been canceled? And what&#8217;s it going to take to bring it back?</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Everybody did 100 years ago, especially Sweden and the US</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@RMA<br />
Thanks for your contribution.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Ok so no shoah, my bad</p>
<p>@MarkCollett</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
even churchill advocated for euthanasis of bad genes dysgenic britons.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
^</p>
<p>@RMA<br />
1 day ago<br />
$5.00<br />
donation</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
You will like Silmido as well. if you like military films.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime</p>
<p>White-Plague<br />
1 day ago<br />
Old Japanime are good anti American prop.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
White Rabbit Radio | May 22, 2023 | Chris Cantwell<br />
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<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
the jays did effective propaganda on Cantwell</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
better is Return of the Living Dead. Hilarious over the top.</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
https://christophercantwell.net/2023/06/10/radical-agenda-s06e018-follow-the-white-rabbit/</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Was a great show. \o Chris Cantwell</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
I used to listen to Chris Cantwell a lot.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
cantwell was surprisingly well spoken and a great guest</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
today is Donald Trumps birthday, just noticed it on imdb dot com</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
The Machinist (2004 film)<br />
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361862/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_2_tt_8_nm_0_q_the%2520machinst</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
TY I will watch this. Korea has made many good films</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Day of the Dead (1985)<br />
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088993/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
The last woman who was executed in the UK<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Ellis</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@withey<br />
probably he did it to save his bacon.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
Yes, they were brutal and they lost their edge</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Yes, it was still valid till recently</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
Best Zombie Film is Train to Busan</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
England use to great at punishing criminals. got rid of a lot of bad genes from the group</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
1998 abolish capital punishment for all offences including treason, blair came in 1997, blair is a traitor</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
Was national treason once considered enough for death penalty in UK?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AlbionForever<br />
Silverman was born in poverty to a migrant Jewish parents from Jassy, Romania</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AlbionForever<br />
KEK it&#8217;s a coincidence.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
Was it Ruth Ellis?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8216;The last people to be sentenced to death in Britain were Peter Anthony Allen and Gwynne Owen Evans – real name John Robson Walby – in 1964.&#8221;<br />
https://tinyurl.com/mry54pau</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
The last woman who was executed in the UK was a woman who killed her lover who beat her so severely that she miscarried.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
This is the issue. But in some cases it is clear</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Yes, exactly. All of that written down by devout Catholics to preserve traditional stories</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AlbionForever<br />
should i check is he member of the tribe?</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
I know all about the Eddas, and I see you constantly agitate both here and on youtube, youre a jew</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
yeah, I remember that Turkey was threatened if they don&#8217;t withdraw that policy they will forever remain EU candidate than EU member.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
it seems that Europeans don’t really grasp the situation in the U S and Vice versa</p>
<p>@AlbionForever<br />
1 day ago<br />
This is the man who abolished capital punishment in the UK. EST<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Silverman</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
Britain got rid of death penalty because they executed a man for killing his wife, and after, they found out it wasnt him, so they said they could never execute someone again, because they could never truly be sure.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
The Sun | ULTIMATE SANCTION When was the death penalty abolished in the UK?<br />
https://tinyurl.com/mry54pau</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
1 day ago<br />
0KT0BER<br />
Watch Jonathan Pageau&#8217;s utube channel. He has a video on the Edda</p>
<p>Better Based Than Erased<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8217;66 i think</p>
<p>italix<br />
1 day ago<br />
I guess TIm has never been to Europe</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
1955?????</p>
<p>@AlbionForever<br />
1 day ago<br />
Belarus is the only country in Europe with capital punishment</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
ah yes, but edda basically is pagan prose. I mean, dedicated to pagan practices of vikings (like blood eagle ritual that may or may not have happened).</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
youre a subversive probably jew</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Is that the reason ?I didn&#8217;t know that</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Euronews | France&#8217;s final guillotine: 40 years since the end of the death penalty<br />
https://tinyurl.com/8ru75s4z</p>
<p>@IPF89<br />
1 day ago<br />
he should be decently treated and decently shot</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
look at Turkey, they won&#8217;t let Turkey join t oEU because of death penalty.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
In the US if a child ran around with a black ice cream he wouldn&#8217;t get near to a police station.</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
Snorri Sturluson is not the originator of the Eddas you utter plum XD</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
most criminals deserve the death penalty</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
Messiahs and superheroes.</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
there are no flat earth movies or tv-shows</p>
<p>White-Plague<br />
1 day ago<br />
I know i can see that</p>
<p>@Diogenes<br />
1 day ago<br />
Brave Cuchulain is the only messiah I need</p>
<p>White-Plague<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
yep</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
1 day ago<br />
The Edda were written by Catholic Christians</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
&#8220;Conspiracy&#8221; theories is not believing the TV</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AdrienArcand<br />
more philosophical and thought provoking for sure.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@KalusSaxon<br />
Please refrain from suggesting acts of violence on this channel. Thanks.</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Yes Catholics wrote them. Also Tolkien was a devote Catholic.</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
figures</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tunisian immigrant, Hamida Djandoubi</p>
<p>White-Plague<br />
1 day ago<br />
But he put Crhistian stuf in it</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
didn’t the men in the park just stand there and watch</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@karvakake<br />
There are no &#8216;Smurfs and Unicorns built the Pyramids&#8217; shows on TV either</p>
<p>@WhiteBull<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AdrienArcand<br />
Aryan Eddas jewish bible</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
ah&#8230;not quite. it was made by pagans, but christians collected it and published it.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark&#8217;s video suggestion: 10 Most TERRIFYING Planets in the Universe<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="10 Most TERRIFYING Planets in the Universe" width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/I8gZMwbdL6k?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
1 day ago<br />
1 lol</p>
<p>White-Plague<br />
1 day ago<br />
The Edda&#8217;s are better than the bible to my taste</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
no life in south africa</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
The Q-trust the plan videos are popular, such as Dave at X22 Report</p>
<p>@JackRoberts28<br />
1 day ago<br />
Q=anon will make a MARK statue</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ww2_epicbattles<br />
don&#8217;t listen to BBC.</p>
<p>CelticPerspective<br />
1 day ago<br />
1</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
Q runs Trump and they&#8217;re from Omicron Persei 8.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Same Tim, propaganda angle. Thats what im interested in also</p>
<p>@Subroyal<br />
1 day ago<br />
1</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
Best of luck to you mate.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Inter-dimensional (((elves)))</p>
<p>@Subroyal<br />
1 day ago<br />
this is the best PWR yet</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
not yet</p>
<p>@What2</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
conspiracy guys said Fauci was behind Covid outbreak and it turned out to be true</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
Yep</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
Look for Biden video 2022-11-09</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
I am not sure about that</p>
<p>@Diogenes<br />
1 day ago<br />
1</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
Fortean Times is my Bible</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
1 day ago<br />
Flat Earth is an establishment psyop designed to discredit Holocaust Truth via association</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
LMAO</p>
<p>@JackRoberts28<br />
1 day ago<br />
1</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
True</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
1</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
1</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
Jesus was Jew.</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
1</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
Thanks for your contribution.</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago<br />
1</p>
<p>Better Based Than Erased<br />
1 day ago<br />
But Herr Hitler entered prison when the &#8216;people in charge&#8217; of Germany weren&#8217;t actually &#8216;the enemy within- the enemy of the people&#8217;.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Ostriches with their heads in the sand</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@karvakake<br />
u dont get put in prison in europe if u say the earth is a globe. false equivocation fallacy. sorry.</p>
<p>@alpha007org<br />
1 day ago<br />
You forgot Q</p>
<p>World War II &#8211; Epic Battles<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark pretends to be angry that Whites get murdered by migrants while celebrating Russia&#8217;s genocidal campaign in Ukraine and the murder of hundreds of Ukrainian babies.</p>
<p>@alpha007org<br />
1 day ago<br />
Q</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2615.png" alt="☕" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Purchase Grandma Towler&#8217;s tea and coffee:<br />
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<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago<br />
14.88<br />
I believe I found the woman that I am going to marry and soon I will have 3+ children from her. She is half Scottish and 100% European. I will buy a house for our family soon too. We are in our mid 20s but we will be moving to South Africa so that we can afford the life we want.</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hitler should be given a year per Holocaust victim. 250,000 years!</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
idk&#8230;I am not sure about that. They definitely very slowly wake up.</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
holocaust deniers and flat earthers get same kind of aggressive reactions</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
jignat jews want trump in power. optics jews want him out. jignats got netanyahu back in, they want the dynamic duo once more, zion don is the shot</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WolfBarney<br />
This is news. Normies will wake up</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WolfBarney<br />
Yeah, I thought that was already happening</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
and the destruction of Kanye West</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
Collett seems particularly blackpilled today. Must have played a lot of COD with PatriArt last week.</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
The FBI already goes after parents who complain at school board meetings</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
Also, on the political side you have Golden Dawn&#8230;.</p>
<p>Mike7666<br />
1 day ago<br />
well put Mark</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
so have I and I have know of him for on er 10 years and he has been very influential in our movement. check out anti racist Hitler for example</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
Ruby Ridge &amp; Waco</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
The Blue Jays made their pitcher walk back his comments recently on gay pride or trannies or whatever</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
its not crush, its fake opposition. same as the abrahamic faiths. they set up an opposition, people flock to it and now they have something to point to as justification to go even harder</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@karvakake<br />
They deserve mockery and contempt</p>
<p>@IPF89<br />
1 day ago<br />
politicians are bought and sold</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
and a lot of Trump supporters are non white.</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
people are weirdly aggressive towards flat earthers</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
November 2022 video of Biden admitting they will use the federal gov&#8217;t to prevent Trump from running again.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
What? Baseball? Haha</p>
<p>Archie<br />
1 day ago<br />
So how about them Blue Jays?</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
he has been an outspoken pro white advocate for 14 years. how about you look into someone before criticizing them like that</p>
<p>Archie<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
Africans taught us everything. I know how to wipe my but</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
Both sides are playing roles in this</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
That&#8217;s for sure lol</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
Flat Earth is used to make conspiracy theorists seem wacky</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
TRump is just playing a role</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
Opinions and arseholes kek</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
Flat Earth is just to make chat groups look tinfoil.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
good take tim&#8230;&#8230;well said. my same stance as me on ufos or anything dumb</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
Have been into this for decades, but have not heard of him.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
TIM&#8217;s links:<br />
https://whiterabbitradio.net<br />
https://t.me/s/whiterabbitradio</p>
<p>@whiterabbitradio<br />
https://www.whitakeronline.org</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
It shines from my &#8230;</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
no, they&#8217;re persecuting trump so people can rally around him more and the jignat jews can get him in power again and do their third temple yahweh sperg stuff</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WolfBarney<br />
Yep</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
those movies are uber propaganda.</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
the earth revolves around me.</p>
<p>White-Plague<br />
1 day ago<br />
Orange man bad</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
Christians are calling Trump the Messiah, lol</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
Yup. Trump is an avatar of White Populism.</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
it&#8217;s noise to distract</p>
<p>Archie<br />
1 day ago<br />
UFOs sure make the chat busy!!</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
Tim</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
Fair. Wakanda makes me feel terrible about all the tech Whitey stole from Blacks that was shown to exist in Black Panther movies.</p>
<p>Matt Hammond<br />
1 day ago<br />
far out chat today</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@IPF89<br />
Just to muddy the waters. Obama and Cass Sunstein. Look it up</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
flat earth and planet X/nibiru are trotted out every time theres a crisis</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
who are you talking about? mark &amp; Tim?</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
the earth is clown shaped</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
pls get back to politics and nationalism talk, pleaseeeee&#8230;</p>
<p>@IPF89<br />
1 day ago<br />
flat earth is just a troll</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
Hahaha!</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@What2<br />
they already are now</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
why is the U S government having hearings on UFOs? they don’t do that without a motive</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
they wont need the tech, all they have to do is make people extremely stupid</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AdrienArcand<br />
lol</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@0KT0BER<br />
LOL</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
who pays these guys for their opinions</p>
<p>White-Plague<br />
1 day ago<br />
unidentied fat object</p>
<p>Archie<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
The UFOs come from Africa and so the Africans don&#8217;t talk about it. Don&#8217;t you know about Wakanda?</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
I studied maths. Flat Earthers didn&#8217;t</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
aliens flying over africa just see it as a wilderness</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
unidentified flying orange</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
who pays him</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
Trump is a UFO</p>
<p>Archie<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
flat earthers know how to turn a sphere into a plane. Using the maths called Complex Analysis makes the transformation simple.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SamMYorks<br />
have you got a dictahone and ecto projector and emf meter? if not, ditch that off.</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
They don&#8217;t find a lot of UFOs in Africa for some reason.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Mike7666<br />
Yeah a lot is white noise but I still believe, I just want to touch the flying saucer first</p>
<p>Sam Melia<br />
1 day ago<br />
the best we got recently was those meta columns in the desert which was just a troll</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
Well, there&#8217;s that grainy film footage of Bigfoot from the 60s or 70s in NorCal</p>
<p>White-Plague<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker is keeping them in the Paddock.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
American media analyst and content creator</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
back to nationalism please</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim is white rabbit radio</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
Never heard of that</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
oh ok didnt know, sry. my bad</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Proud feet!!!</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Mike7666<br />
I agree. A distraction.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim knows all about project blue beam</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
who is this Tim Murdoch guy?</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
HAHAHAH well said mark</p>
<p>Mike7666<br />
1 day ago<br />
I think the alien crap is to muddy the waters of legit conspiracies</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
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<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
Flat Earthers will be able to explain it</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
if ufos turn up the blame lays squarely at Kadyrovs feet obvs</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
Maybe talking about Trump&#8217;s situation is no different at this point than talking about UFOs. Look, they stole the election. Trump, whatever it means, has already been neutralized. So Tucker can go on about it.</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
UFO just means unidentified flying object</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim Murdock look up project bluebeam. Its cook crap BUT it would give sanity to what tucker is doing, remember tucker is CIA/FED.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
Thanks for your continued support.</p>
<p>billybrown<br />
1 day ago<br />
we do have to be ready to counter their moves. we did better than ever with covid. they would have done much worse, kept the lockdowns, and already would have had their excuse for war with china</p>
<p>Archie<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
That was a nephilim in the Afghanistan cave</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
funny how he switched into the kooky/esoteric realm after charlottesville</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
most people believe in UFOs. check the surveys</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
Race is what matters</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
I have actually seen UFO, but I still don&#8217;t believe in aliens</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8220;UFO stuff&#8221;</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
1 day ago<br />
$5.00<br />
Fun show tonight, thanks. PS I was pleased to have received my PA membership pack through the post today, thank you <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
$3.00<br />
Can we blame someone in a cave in Afghanistan if the Aliens turn up ?</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago<br />
NNR o/</p>
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1 day ago</p>
<p>@NightNationReview<br />
o/</p>
<p>Sam Melia<br />
1 day ago<br />
same as ghosts, if we had ufos here why have spottings disappeared as soon as everyone had hi-res cameras in their pockets 24/7</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WhiteBull<br />
Yes, they always control the opposition</p>
<p>𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐇𝐓 𝐍𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍 𝐑𝐄𝐕𝐈𝐄𝐖<br />
1 day ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
ok, I think this chat dedicated too much time on Tucker.</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
1 day ago<br />
The Zionist supremacist global agenda is the key issue, not aliens</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
starting to actually doubt whole &#8220;speed of light&#8221; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f600.png" alt="😀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
nobody is arguing about if aliens are real. Tim isn’t talking about that. the u s government is pushing aliens for a reason. no one is sure why</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
Imagine if aliens came here and saw what was going on</p>
<p>@WhiteBull<br />
1 day ago<br />
tUCKER FAVORITE SON OF hebrew heights</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
Fox Channel was/is about bipartisan politics. Dems against Repubs. It&#8217;s like a football game with teams.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WolfBarney<br />
he is in a way correct. but there is much more than that ofcourse.</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
well said, race first</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Feminism, UFOs, Abrahamic Religions, Anti Semetism&#8230;on and on</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8230;talking about movies or other BS while things are burning. What kind of leaders do that???</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Archie<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@karvakake<br />
I also can not believe in FTL travel but I also can not completely rule it out.</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
people were talking about the regime rolling out the ufo bs for months beforehand</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
One of the worst thing about Tucker is his &#8220;race is just skin color&#8221; crap</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Its multifaceted. They have all these operations running at any given time and pivot to which ever one is giving the results they want at the time.</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
Honestly I felt the same listening to TDS</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@DebDemos<br />
Me too</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker doesn’t care about white genocide. Tucker has always been one of them. we got some of tucker’s writers on our side and some of our talking points out there</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
immigration, humilaition of white people, rape of our children, transgender propaganda are all comnspiracies&#8230;average Joe Normie.</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
thank you mark</p>
<p>Speak your mind<br />
1 day ago<br />
Absolutely have to agree with Mark on this&#8230;</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
I know! I&#8217;m told I&#8217;m being special all the time!</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WhiteBull<br />
Thats the shot, project bluebeam type operation</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
I have exactly the same reaction as mark to aliens</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
Wow, you&#8217;re so smart</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
Haha. Cheers.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
I gotta say, I blame all these conspiracies on Americans, who seem to dwell on it and then trickle them into the outside world. Who killed JFK? What was on the tapes of Watergate scandal? I am more interested into that than aliens.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@WhiteBull<br />
1 day ago<br />
ONLY JEWS CAN SAVE YOU FROM ALIENS</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8220;aliens&#8221;</p>
<p>Archie<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
I couldn&#8217;t resist the topic</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Official sources(MILITARY, INTELLIGENCE) cannot tell the public things without clearing it first within their branch else they&#8217;ll get arrested. When u see establish/official sources mouthing off suppressed information, its because they got the go ahead, and therefore it serves a purpose.</p>
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1 day ago</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
Hah, Saturnshines! We found the Saturnian alien trying to derail the conversation about Saturnian power!</p>
<p>italix<br />
1 day ago<br />
Peopel, that is, total idiots will adopt the alien agenda and pretend to be related</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Archie.Bunker<br />
Thanks for your contribution.</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
who is this guy</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
1 day ago<br />
I hope Tim&#8217;s right, it would make our job of destroying &#8216;conservatives&#8217; so much easier.</p>
<p>Archie<br />
1 day ago<br />
$4.00<br />
Tim and Mark are both wrong. The light that landed in Las Vegas this week produced hominid-like aliens that breath oxygen. Obviously E.T. life likely is carbon-based, breaths O2 &amp; travels faster than light using hot wormholes without any craft. They travel nude! Mleh!!</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
I&#8217;ll believe in alien tech as soon as NATO uses it against Ukraine.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim is seasoned in propaganda and psy-ops</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim knows propaganda, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
<p>@WhiteBull<br />
1 day ago<br />
15</p>
<p>@Saturnshines<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8220;Aliens&#8221; are a distraction, so you don&#8217;t focus on what the politicians are doing.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
It&#8217;s a &#8216;news&#8217; channel</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
heh</p>
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<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
https://christophercantwell.net/2023/06/10/radical-agenda-s06e018-follow-the-white-rabbit/</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@karvakake<br />
and rhymes with f***er.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f937.png" alt="🤷" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
argh! Now I can&#8217;t get that image out of my head. Whatever that image is.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker is getting sued by Fox right now</p>
<p>italix<br />
1 day ago<br />
TC is pretending to be Bill Cooper</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
well it heads look like&#8230;men&#8217;s&#8230;part, you know which. They snucked in raping men message in.</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
we have about 250 sites on our genome that are able to evolve so yeah it probably would change us beyond a natural state</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker has been talking about aliens off and on for a long time</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark, You do not know what Aliens are or what they can do</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
14s if agree with time. 15s for agree with Mark on this</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
He has an ulterior motive.</p>
<p>@alpha007org<br />
1 day ago<br />
We have LARGEST NATO operation in the EU (Germany), and Tucker is talking about ALIENS ??? WAKE UP</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Germans had a great banking system.</p>
<p>@IPF89<br />
1 day ago<br />
people think aliens will save us &#8211; no chance</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Its multifaceted</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
Thats why i said meet in the middle. UFO&#8217;s is a distraction AND also a foot in the door for project blue beam type operation</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Ah, ok. Thanks for the insight.</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker could&#8217;ve focused on demographic replacement or any other pressing issue other than Alien crap. Insulting to say the least</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim is spot on.</p>
<p>@KalusSaxon<br />
1 day ago<br />
fear the covid… fear the aliens… don’t fear the Bame</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Olivia<br />
Thanks for your continued support.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
it is solidly crafted. But you won&#8217;t like the subtle message within, because you know&#8230;aliens are sentient beings too. If you get me in which direction it went,. Plus, remembmer that it&#8217;s South African film.</p>
<p>Olivia<br />
1 day ago<br />
$14.00<br />
Evening gentlemen. Excellent show. Has a date for the RAF Scampton demo been announced yet ?</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
I actually muted both Tucker and word Tucker on twitter because of that fake and gay alien stuff</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
but no one to verify the existence of area 51</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
you are American, what do you think about area 51?</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Its a foot in the door Tim. The reasoning is multifaceted</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
Aliens is a GayOp because Flat Earth doesn&#8217;t taint right wing chat groups as tinfoil sufficiently anymore.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
I’m sure Tucker segments about aliens over recent years are on YouTube</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
What did the ADL come after Tucker hardest for? Replacement of Whites (I think Tucker called it replacement of American citizens or something like that) &#8220;you know when you&#8217;re over the target.&#8221;</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
15</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
1 day ago<br />
If the regime tries to run with a UFO/alien narrative, that would not work out well for them. I think even the most bovine normie would reject it.</p>
<p>Carney Corner<br />
1 day ago<br />
Aliens are fake and gay. but the Psyopp is real.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark cannot analyze conspiracy theories properly. he thinks it&#8217;s too illogical. his brain just proceeds to change his perceptions dramatically. not said as an insult</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
The UFOs are a distraction. Tucker said don’t talk about race it is a distraction. focus on UFOs instead</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
fine. I gotta do something else now anyways</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
YES, tim&#8217;s take is on point.</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
99.999%+ of the universe is empty space. No reason to suggest that&#8217;s where intelligence will come from.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Well said, Tim. Holograms when?</p>
<p>italix<br />
1 day ago<br />
People only believe in aliens because the television tells them about it. The average person wouldn&#8217;t have thought about it otherwise.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
xenomorph LITERALY MEANS JEW (caps) Greek xeno: strange morph: shape</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
I know. Why is it even being discussed here?</p>
<p>@IPF89<br />
1 day ago<br />
people see what they want to see, some folks love aliens</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago<br />
:alien:</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
Understood. But please refrain from using slurs on this channel. Thanks.</p>
<p>Carney Corner<br />
1 day ago<br />
it doesn’t matter what is logical. the masses are mentally retarded and will believe the spin like they are trusting the science.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
1 day ago<br />
Who cares about aliens from outer space? We need to protect white/European culture.</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
i think we&#8217;re all lost</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
I firmly believe that if a man spends considerable time in space, traveling by ultra high speed, he will become alien.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Project blue beam* not blue book sorry.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Murderbaycasual</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
Not common sense. You need a substrate capable of producing complexity. Not plasma.</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
Einstein was a fraud</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago<br />
White Unity at every opportunity o/</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
Wasn’t Einstein a fraud?</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
MARK is applying human physics to space</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
change topic pls</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
1 day ago<br />
Project Blue Beam type psyop</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
Was that a good film?</p>
<p>Welsh Nationalist<br />
1 day ago<br />
They are going to fake an alien invasion so they can form a world government. Itll be nothing to do with aliens.</p>
<p>@alpha007org<br />
1 day ago<br />
I think Tim isn&#8217;t saying Aliens are here and Tucker is confirming it.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
I think that District 9 was way over its time.</p>
<p>Carney Corner<br />
1 day ago<br />
marks autism</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
Chill! We&#8217;re all Brothers here</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@14Reasons<br />
I think you tagged the wrong person</p>
<p>@IPF89<br />
1 day ago<br />
in centuries past they were called demons, now it&#8217;s aliens</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
No Mark, you and Tim have to meet in the middle. There wont be actual aliens, it will be an operation to fake a landing/invasion in an attempt to force everyone under one regime, Ie project bluebook type stuff.</p>
<p>@MarkCollett</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Miles Dyson? Oh snap!</p>
<p>Rodger James<br />
1 day ago<br />
Aliens are flooding our borders. We don&#8217;t have to look into space to see weird life forms.</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker isn&#8217;t talking about aliens to make money. He is worth half a billion dollars. There is an ulterior motive for the alien nonsense talk.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
fck you. youre lying</p>
<p>italix<br />
1 day ago<br />
Don&#8217;t worry, when the aliens invade, we will kick their asses</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
immigration is exploding in Japan. things changed a lot during Shinzo Abe. you don’t know what you are talking about.</p>
<p>@MilosM.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim isn’t making an argument for aliens being true like Mark thinks</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
okay now we know who created alien xenomorph</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
:spiral_eyes: :spiral_eyes: :spiral_eyes:</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
what a low iq take</p>
<p>@14Reasons</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
I believe in Aliens but I want to touch the flying saucer</p>
<p>@dsallen7<br />
1 day ago<br />
There&#8217;s actually a simple equation that repesents the probability of intelligent life in the visible universe.<br />
https://www.seti.org/drake-equation-index</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
then you are completely fine. I see these East Asian countries as hugely xenophobic (with odd obsession on white people tho).</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
that’s Tim’s point</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
14 for mark</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
And Weyland-Yutani will own most of those planets, especially when they&#8217;re bought up by BlackRock &#8211; GAME OVER MAN!!!!</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
the u s government is talking about aliens all the time now. in the past they would never discuss it</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
laws of human physics being applied to space??????????? Yeah, ok</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
And Weyland-Yutani will own most of those planets, especially when they&#8217;re bought up by BlackRock</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
most Americans believe in aliens in UFOs from what I’ve seen of surveys</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
teleport? Time travel?</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark&#8217;s take, sharp like a razor blade, well said.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Heavier than air flight was considered impossible up until the Wright Brothers</p>
<p>italix<br />
1 day ago<br />
Dr. Zarkov would have figured it out already if it were possible</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Either we are alone or there are Aliens. Either way it is a terrifying prospect</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
It took a lot of very extraordinary coincidences for complex life to arise on Earth.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@karvakake<br />
he said if youre going to take it to not get fired</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
with a memory of a goldfish you should not accuse other people as liars</p>
<p>@14Reasons</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
hail mark collett, level headed and puts this ufo crap into perspective</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
1 day ago<br />
The goldilocks planet</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Not necessarily. The laws of physics do not apply in space. Whole new ball game</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@JackRoberts28<br />
Only thing I care about Tucker is that he made white replacement main stream. That&#8217;s huge!</p>
<p>@alpha007org<br />
1 day ago<br />
Goldilock zone is fake. Really!</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Marco<br />
his head definitely looks close to Coneheads (if you watched the film :))</p>
<p>Archipelago Woes<br />
1 day ago<br />
We can go faster than light!~!!!</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
faster than the speed of light or live a very very long time</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
I think everything should be questioned at this point. not taken to 100% true because jays say so</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
You can&#8217;t go faster than light. You can&#8217;t evolve if you don&#8217;t die. If we meet aliens they&#8217;ll be robots.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@karvakake<br />
youre a weasel piece of shit</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
PARSECS!!!!</p>
<p>Rodger James<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark that theory has been explored. The Fermi paradox. You should watch Issac Arthur&#8217;s channel on Youtube. It doesn&#8217;t matter how many planets there are.</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago<br />
If a life form so superior to make their way to Earth, sure wouldn&#8217;t be on an examination table in DC. NO chance.</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
If there were no sort of movies or stories written about aliens nobody would believe in such stuff or at the very least be indifferent to it.</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
I live in Japan mate. this isn’t true.</p>
<p>@MilosM.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
This stream begs for David Icke presence.</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
I am sure he has those episodes on his website.</p>
<p>@Marco<br />
1 day ago<br />
This guy has ears like Dr Spock &#8211; is he an alien?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Infinitely vast :exploding_head: :exploding_head: :exploding_head:</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
I don&#8217;t think that China or Japan or N. Korea (I don&#8217;t count S. Korea) will ever accept multicultural, multiethnical bs (despite the fact that many foreigners live there -except N. Korea)</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
Alien anecdotes are, as T777 would say, &#8216;ghost stories&#8217;. The first 500 light years are less technical than the last few miles I guess.</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@karvakake<br />
yes you are. not what he said</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
1 day ago<br />
Project Blue Beam</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Well said, imagine believing white and believing in ufo stuff, but then again that makes sense for someone who believes other jewish contrivances.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
o7</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
what point? You should know better than to buy into this shit</p>
<p>@JackRoberts28<br />
1 day ago<br />
0.26<br />
Tuckers Father was a spook and so is he. When you get a job in the BBC in the past and post 2001 &#8211; spooks check you. Tucker is not a saviour. Remember that he keeps the line. Aliens is just ALEX JONES space &#8211; he is trying to make internet MAINSTREAM and captured.</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
no I am not.</p>
<p>@14Reasons</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim is a fool. this is just silly</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
lol. OK</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim is NO fool. He has a point here</p>
<p>14Reasons<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@karvakake<br />
youre lying</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
His daughter made the bracelet apparently. Don&#8217;t be too quick to judge. I felt the same way until I heard that</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
Well don&#8217;t start fights here. I have a barstuhl at arms length next to me.</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
I don’t think so. Not from what I see. it’s just higher on the priority list</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@withey<br />
hey mate</p>
<p>Karvakake<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim also told us that we have to &#8220;take something&#8221; for covid-19</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
It&#8217;s not sticking though.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
hahahah yes, love that conspiracy stuff</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker&#8217;s controlled oppostion (see the bracelet he wears), that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s associating the right with aliens &amp; UFOs.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
They want to hit only white countries.</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
Aliens, chinese spy balloons, agenda 2020, WEF. All manufactured garbage for loons</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
White genocide is right in front of us. You have to wear tinfoil not to see it.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
I could listen to Tim on this stuff all night</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
I am both. Therefore take offense at any judgemental remarks about either</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
Well, they get what they deserve&#8230; a ban&#8230;.</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
it&#8217;s being produced because it&#8217;s a distraction and a fluff piece</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
well her husband is Asian, so that already discredits her</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
That skank needs to go away.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
on the same side or against?</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
area 51 does not exists</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
It is what it is</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim needs to lay off the drugs</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
I do but so many false stories</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
hosts were gung ho on the alien narrative in the 90&#8217;s. Tucker&#8217;s a clown</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8220;Documents&#8221; are easily faked</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
What upsets me is that not all of those people are jews. but most are&#8230;.</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
1 day ago<br />
1<br />
Mark, will you address the Lauren Southern situation? She recently admitted that she married a fed.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
I am Pagan/Christian. I fight with everyone !</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark doesn&#8217;t like &#8220;woo woo&#8221;, TIM!!!!!!!!!!! LOL</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago<br />
Redacted is a good alt news source. He&#8217;s big on UFO stuff though. His audience rips him on it.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
Unfortunately certain folks try that all the time.</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
Trump was going to use it to sell to Israelis to bail him out</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
someone was doing the same thing. Trying to start a fight between Christians and non religious WN.</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
No the documents had to do with Iran, and other foreign policy stuff lol</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
Interesting</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
welcome</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
I can&#8217;t keep up. I believe but all the teasing just upsets me.</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago<br />
They want us to stop talking about illegal aliens, so they talk about ET aliens.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 day ago<br />
evening everyone</p>
<p>@alpha007org<br />
1 day ago<br />
When Geopolitical tensions are high &#8211;&gt; UFO follows. 1990, 2001, 2008-2011, 2022-23 (my take: Drones)</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WolfBarney<br />
Agreed</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim loves this deep stuff. Knows a hell of a lot about Nat Soc and their interest in the occult.</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim&#8217;s an outstanding analyst of current events</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
I thought they were green when I was growing up.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
I don&#8217;t recall. I don&#8217;t believe so.</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
he is</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim sounds like a conspiracy theorist lol</p>
<p>Norman<br />
1 day ago<br />
There&#8217;s little black ones.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
Didn&#8217;t he got banned a couple of weeks ago for the SAME thing?</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Are they grey or green ?</p>
<p>Lampshade Denier<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@withey<br />
Yes.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim*</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Time on with Cantwell recently. What a show!<br />
https://christophercantwell.net/2023/06/10/radical-agenda-s06e018-follow-the-white-rabbit/</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
what does a UFO matter when you&#8217;re watching your people be destroyed?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
:thumbs_up:</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
ufos&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..distraction</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
Good move</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Jews like to analprobe gentiles.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
let trump suffer he is a race traitor</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
For stealing millions and leading his supporters into a trap, he deserves nothing but contempt</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch</p>
<p>@What2<br />
is on a timeout. Next up ban if they continue</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
(((establishment)))</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
We don&#8217;t need to support Trump</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
Trump&#8217;s enemies are our enemies, so for THIS issue, we need to support him. (not saying Trump is on our side)</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
A Trupin Hood</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@What2<br />
Go argue shit somewhere else. Listen to the show or f off</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
I don&#8217;t start them, I finish them</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
No it isnt. Christianity is</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
go read a book, specifically the one you claim to follow/know about</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
1 day ago<br />
Beer Hall Pooch those accounts are enemy trolls</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
quit</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
^</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Let&#8217;s quite the religous spats, people. TY</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@What2<br />
That sentence is a jewish construct</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
christianity is a jewish construct</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@WolfBarney<br />
Haha. That&#8217;s the correct attitude.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
TIM&#8217;s links:<br />
https://whiterabbitradio.net<br />
https://t.me/s/whiterabbitradio</p>
<p>@whiterabbitradio<br />
https://www.whitakeronline.org</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
There are 262 currently watching, there should be 260 &#8220;likes.&#8221;</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
There&#8217;s America, then there&#8217;s the Government of the USA</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Let&#8217;s get to :hundred_points: . Hit that :fire: :fire: :fire:</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Rodger James<br />
1 day ago<br />
Very true. They aren&#8217;t even trying to hide it now. They have no need to hide because they have complete power.</p>
<p>Wolf Barney<br />
1 day ago<br />
It&#8217;ll be interesting to see if Tucker gets, uh&#8230;.let&#8217;s say, a little more bold in what he says going forward&#8230;.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker Carlson latest Twitter episode:</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-width="550" data-dnt="true">
<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ep. 3  America&#39;s principles are at stake <a href="https://t.co/eJNSUVvvqY">pic.twitter.com/eJNSUVvvqY</a></p>
<p>&mdash; Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) <a href="https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1668747661028081664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2023</a></p></blockquote>
<p><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script></p>
<p>Rodger James<br />
1 day ago<br />
Actually they were working to destroy the US in the 1920s. Of course when I say they I mean (((They)))</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
OPEC countries are uniting to the detriment of the &#8216;West&#8217;</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago<br />
Trump is the grandfather of baby jews i.e. Ivanka&#8217;s children.</p>
<p>Rodger James<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
You are absolutely correct. That is what lead me out of Christian Zionism. I read the book &#8220;Witness&#8221; by Whitaker Chambers and simply couldn&#8217;t overlook the names.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Patriot Act (2001 US anti-terrorism act)<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@JackRoberts28<br />
A superpower flying a &#8216;progress&#8217; flag in pride of place is like a Super Hero wearing a rainbow cape</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@JackRoberts28<br />
For sure. KSA selling oil in other currencies is a blow against the Petrodollar. May still take years of course.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
The Reds fled to the West in the Cold War and infested us.</p>
<p>Rodger James<br />
1 day ago<br />
I think we can reach people. It is difficult. I am an old man, and I was a Christian Zionist. I came out of it completely. It can happen to others.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
as long as negativity inspires fighting back then that’s okay but wallowing in misery does no good for anyone</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
To hell with the West now. These fkrs need to fail and the (((controllers))) need to be exposed and underdone.</p>
<p>@JackRoberts28<br />
1 day ago<br />
The worse thing is Saudi Arabia, the client state is now threatening Biden.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f1ec-1f1e7.png" alt="🇬🇧" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> The official Patriotic Alternative website:<br />
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
blacks can’t hear smoke alarm low battery warnings or don’t care. I have seen this first hand.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
Stock up on iodine tablets</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Rodger_James<br />
so true</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
a lot of normies know what’s up but fear the repercussions for saying something. more people are on our side than we realize</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
1 day ago<br />
racial blindness is getting Whites yeeted every day <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f614.png" alt="😔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Rodger James<br />
1 day ago<br />
I grew up in Alabama I have been around blacks all my life. I know we are not the same. Our basic concept of Justice isn&#8217;t the same.</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago<br />
Buy silver coins! Buy gold coins!</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
1 day ago<br />
Duck and Cover!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f3b6.png" alt="🎶" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
Accepting the negative aspects can inspire a renewal in building for the future</p>
<p>Rodger James<br />
1 day ago<br />
I am around a lot of normies of various age groups. THey are conservative, but their racial blindness especially today stuns me.</p>
<p>@TobyRadley<br />
1 day ago<br />
let&#8217;s go champ</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
negativity can be a self fulfilling prophecy in many instances</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
1 day ago<br />
&amp; Hail Horus</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ChainReaction<br />
?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago<br />
Heil Mark!</p>
<p>@KCS<br />
1 day ago<br />
Welcome to Brazil. But Brazil hasn&#8217;t had a revolution.</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
they&#8217;re far more resilient than you think</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim reducing everything down to economics is not the whole picture</p>
<p>Rodger James<br />
1 day ago<br />
They continue to believe as the conservative says, &#8220;If we just teach them to accept Western values, then they will be like us.&#8221;</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Rodger_James<br />
Kicking the can down the road until the children hit a dead end</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
1 day ago<br />
it’s indirect terrorism by our elvish mainstream media owner’s</p>
<p>Rodger James<br />
1 day ago<br />
Most Whites don&#8217;t want to see the racial problem because that is to admit there is little that can be done other than separation.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
most whites do not know about these attacks and the racial component to them</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
The GAE and the Globohomo are mocked and despised by the majority of the World. The chickens will be roosting soon</p>
<p>@TwentyFourHours<br />
1 day ago<br />
It is truly sickening what is being done to our people. I hope at least this motivates more folks to seek us out and find a solution.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
these anti white crimes were covered up forever. That’s why Colin Flaherty blew up and then was banned</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@max1anderson<br />
Thanks for your dedicated support.</p>
<p>@max1anderson<br />
1 day ago<br />
$5.00<br />
There seems to be more unity among right now even nigel farage is calling for unity. Tim, is something similar happening in the US?</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
is this Tim???<br />
https://gab.com/White__Rabbit</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago<br />
^</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
A head of a Religious community that &#8216;tweets&#8217; is one that should be replaced</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
TIM&#8217;s links:<br />
https://whiterabbitradio.net<br />
https://t.me/s/whiterabbitradio</p>
<p>@whiterabbitradio<br />
https://www.whitakeronline.org</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
the tweet about the head of Church of England proposing sainthood for Floyd has been deleted</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
we&#8217;d call on our community to rally, we&#8217;d welcome the far right to that area&#8230;I said if but it&#8217;s more like when</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
As far as i know none of us right-wingers have ever been the victims or even caught up in these kind of events if we are we&#8217;d never call for peace nor &#8216;understanding&#8217; nor forgiveness etc, but the Liberals always do e.g Manchester arena, no we&#8217;d call on the authorities to step down</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
Thanks for your continued support.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
There needs to be a &#8216;protestant&#8217; break away from the &#8216;Protestant&#8221; C O E</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
AntiRacist Hitler | White Rabbit Radio video:<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark Collett Telegram posts regarding Nottingham:<br />
https://t.me/markacollett/9064<br />
https://t.me/markacollett/9054</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Why did he Claim he was a Christian? When he wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
it seemed for a long time, that if you did pro white IRL activism, then you would be banned. like Mark</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@dsallen7<br />
Thanks for your ongoing contribution.</p>
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>@dsallen7<br />
1 day ago<br />
$10.00<br />
None of the recent anti-White knife attacks in Britain and Europe seem to be motivated by Islam, it seems to be all anti-White hatred. Proves that race always trumps religion or any other category. Whites need to learn this lesson before we can win.</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Are You pledging Allegiance to the US Flag or to the &#8216;Progress Flag&#8217; ?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
PA website | Patriotic Alternative BANNED on Twitter:<br />
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1 day ago<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>danzimmons<br />
1 day ago<br />
glad im not a crease chin <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/271d.png" alt="✝" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> still luv y’all tho <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/2764-fe0f-200d-1fa79.png" alt="❤️‍🩹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
$8.00<br />
&#8216;Anti-racist Hitler&#8217; is brilliant. Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Head of Church of England call for George Floyd to be ordained a saint. I kid you not. The absolute state of Christianity now</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
1 day ago<br />
Fecking Osysee kicked me again</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
wish it wasn’t happening to them too</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Legal Stabbing Lives Matter</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8220;got into his van&#8221;&#8230; Na mate, he stabbed someone and stole HIS van.</p>
<p>@Horatius<br />
1 day ago<br />
now Europeans are understanding what American whites have been dealing with, with blacks for decades</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
The spin doctors are furiously trying to make the stabbings an act of &#8216;White Supremacy Extremism&#8217;</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
WotW made good videos, but they were too depressing for me.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Way of the World on Odysee</p>
<p>@wayoftheworld</p>
<p>@AnonyMouse<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hello Timothy, do you watch Murdoch Murdoch?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Bad editing is jarring and unpleasant.</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
He won&#8217;t do his health any good, when he was sober he was fine though.</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
ha, no he still gets drunk all the time, but he streams 5 days/week so you&#8217;ll find a lot of sober content.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Newest video from Mark Collett | Turning a Generation of Girls into Sluts:<br />
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<p>Better Based Than Erased<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8216;Diversity&#8217; has been showing it&#8217;s British benefits again this week then..</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
Thanks again for donating.</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MightyMouse<br />
Great to see you brother o/</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>MightyMouse<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
o/</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
Good evening</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
Evening</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
I never liked Randbot, he used to get drunk all the time. He must&#8217;ve changed.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Randbot hates beer more than Mark</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow The Woodlander:<br />
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<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
$2.00<br />
Taro’s party, Reiwa Shinsengumi, is Pro-Minority rights, &amp; Pro-Refugee. Times are changing fast in Occupied Japan.</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago<br />
Woodlander channel is great content for living off grid</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
Thanks for your dedicated support.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@Glen19<br />
1 day ago<br />
$2.00<br />
Did you hear about the brawl in the Japanese parliament started by leftist politician, Taro Yamamoto over an immigration reform bill? (Legal immigration is exploding in Japan. It is just to placate the public by going after illegal immigration)</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Laura Towler:<br />
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<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
o/ Hello again Sir!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> DEBUTS TODAY: The Woodlander&#8217;s new website:<br />
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<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
o/</p>
<p>Hefeweizen<br />
1 day ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Hefeweizen<br />
o/</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
Is the white rabbit the same as on Gab?</p>
<p>@What2<br />
1 day ago<br />
0.35</p>
<p>@whiterabbitradio<br />
Will Jazzhands McFeels be doing more shows with you? His FTN podcast got shoaed.</p>
<p>Hefeweizen<br />
1 day ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
AntiRacist Hitler | White Rabbit Radio video:<br />
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<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
TIM&#8217;s links:<br />
https://whiterabbitradio.net<br />
https://t.me/s/whiterabbitradio</p>
<p>@whiterabbitradio<br />
https://www.whitakeronline.org</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Gammonsandwich<br />
1 day ago<br />
No hat!</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Email Mark Collett: mark@thefallofwesternman.com</p>
<p>@FreeSpeechBro<br />
1 day ago<br />
GE all</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago<br />
This stream wasn&#8217;t showing up on the Odysee homepage. Please share!</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
o7 all!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
Livestream from the flying circus!</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
1 day ago<br />
That was not abortion, it was murder. The unborn child was viable.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Membership now OPEN to ALL across the world. £3 a month.<br />
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<p>Katja88<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great guest today o/</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hit that :fire: :fire: :fire:</p>
<p>@SteveOfWessex<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
lol</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
mark and jaap stam</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
here we go!</p>
<p>@EnglishRose<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hello<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f33c.png" alt="🌼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
You got it :thumbs_up:</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
Thanks Reed :slight_smile:</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Mark is late? NO WAY</p>
<p>@mikeenochcat<br />
1 day ago<br />
good morning</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow British Gammon:<br />
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<p>@BritishGammon<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
1 day ago<br />
Good evening.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
14s for Tim. Old school AF. Been going yours</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Haha I saw that ! *and gnomes</p>
<p>Katja88<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
I sure do!</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
1 day ago<br />
Evening all</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Katja88<br />
\o . Everybody loves kittens</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Follow Katja88 on Gab:<br />
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<p>Katja88<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hello Mark and Tim o/</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Miss_Dissident<br />
Indeed. God willing.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
TIM&#8217;s links:<br />
https://whiterabbitradio.net<br />
https://t.me/s/whiterabbitradio</p>
<p>@whiterabbitradio<br />
https://www.whitakeronline.org</p>
<p>Miss_Dissident<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
Yer this and France back to back. Of course we have seen worse but there does appear to be a shift in public opinion</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
whiterabbitradio.net<br />
Twitter.com/eurorabbit<br />
dlive.tv/WhiteRabbitRadio<br />
https://www.youtube.com/user/WhiteRabbitRadioTV</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Miss_Dissident<br />
Yeah, if it&#8217;s the event I think you&#8217;re talking about, if that doesn&#8217;t wake them up, nothing will!</p>
<p>Miss_Dissident<br />
1 day ago<br />
This time last week the guest asked what it would take for normies to wake up. A week later&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim&#8217;s mentor, Bob Whitaker:<br />
https://www.whitakeronline.org</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Help this channel by hitting the <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> icon for a like!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
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<p>withey<br />
1 day ago<br />
good eveing all 14/88 28 wpww</p>
<p>Katja88<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
Oh I&#8217;m sorry</p>
<p>Miss_Dissident<br />
1 day ago<br />
worse*</p>
<p>Miss_Dissident<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Carlota<br />
seen was in England</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Katja88<br />
I am triggered by kittens. Please have a warning</p>
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1 day ago<br />
Help this channel by hitting the <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> icon for a like!</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Membership now OPEN to ALL across the world. £3 a month.<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@Katja88<br />
You&#8217;re welcome \o</p>
<p>Katja88<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
Thank you! o/</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f449.png" alt="👉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> DEBUTS TODAY: The Woodlander&#8217;s new website!<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tim Murdock (White Rabbit Radio) | May 22, 2023 | Chris Cantwell<br />
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<p>@ArcadeOutpost<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hail</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
1 day ago<br />
$14.88<br />
Hail Tim. Ace personal chat with Cantwell. Not heard you speak like that before on all the history. Can you get Full Moon Ancestry back on for a catch-up? Not heard from him in ages. Hope the whiskey&#8217;s not got hold of him and he&#8217;s writing his novel. I&#8217;m well BTW: this tourist is always purist! ;o)</p>
<p>@MaybeNextTime<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 days ago<br />
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2 days ago<br />
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<p>@MilosM.<br />
2 days ago<br />
oh goodie! I haven&#8217;t heard from Tim Murdoch in a while.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> [Millennial Woes continues his tradition of a yearly (now 8th) Millenniyule series of interviews that started in Dec, 2015.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Here, in his 63rd, and last, Millenniyule interview for 2022, Woes chats &#8220;briefly&#8221; (420 mins) on many topics with Morgoth, of Morgoth&#8217;s Review.</span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Millenniyule 2022 &#8211; 63</span></span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #333333;">Dec 30, 2022</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;">UPDATE (Jan 2, 2023): An audio file of this interview is now available here (100 MB) to listen or download:</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://archive.org/details/millenniyule-2022-morgoth-20221230-48kbps">https://archive.org/details/millenniyule-2022-morgoth-20221230-48kbps</a></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;">(7:00:58/420:58 mins)</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[00:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Hello and welcome back to Millennial Eight. This is the final interview stream this year, and the penultimate stream. And it’s with the much venerated Morgoth, of Morgoth’s Review. I don’t think he needs any introduction. He has been a heavy hitter on Millenniyule in previous years. One of the main figures in the movement. Morgoth. Welcome back to Millenniyule.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Hello again. Thanks for having us on. The pressure is always on, I guess the first year that I’m really feeling the pressure of the last stream, the big hype stream and everything. Maybe next year just kind of plop me in the middle of the schedule or something, because I do feel it. I’m just a bloke with an opinion at the end of the day.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I’m sorry. Maybe I laid it on a bit. I remember sending you a thing last night:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Morgoth descends on Millenniyule tomorrow!”</span></h3>
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<p>Like the original over Arda, Descended Upon Arda. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Yeah, it was just a comment I saw from someone. Don’t worry about it.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Especially because you’ve got people on who are publishing books and everything. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I’m just a bloke from the Northeast, so I’m acutely aware. Hopefully I can say something of interest which hasn’t been covered because what I’ve managed to gather is being great this year.</p>
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<p>I mean, I have to say that I’ve been taking a bit of a bit of a break from the Internet for the last ten days or so. I’ve hardly been online at all. I’ve done like two Telegram posts in a week or something. I think it helps. I like to do that each Christmas. Just a sort of social media Internet detox. And I’m out and about and I’m seeing people and whatnot. It’s really nice. So you really feel your brain as well.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yes, well, that’s what I’ll be doing in the new year once Millenniyule is over, because I really do feel it becomes like a pressure cooker with all the stuff that’s going on, all the opinions being thrown around.</p>
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<p>And of course, the disputes of various natures. So there is a lot to process. Yeah, I think it does overwhelm. So I’ll be taking a break for a few weeks, probably in January.</p>
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<p>Well, I guess we can get to the actual meat of things. The last two years, and this has obviously been analyzed on Millenniyule this year. I don’t know how much of it you’ve watched, but people have reviewed the end of Covid as a pandemic and as a current ongoing news story. And then it’s evolution into something that for some people is historical, and for others it’s the harbinger of things to come. But then it’s supplanted in the news cycle by the Ukraine war.</p>
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<p>So in general, before we get to what we’re going to talk about, and I should say we’re going to go through some of Morgoth’s articles on his Substack throughout this stream. That’s what we’re going to use as the sort of backbone of the stream.</p>
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<p>But before we get to that. Would you have any overall summary thoughts about 2022, as compared to the previous two years?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, yeah, I think things are just worse. I don’t want to be like black pilling straight away on the stream, there’s plenty of time for that. But I just get the feeling that the system has just gone out of control. It’s as if there isn’t even the pretence anymore. That what the public want, it won’t matter, whatever the issue is, whether it’s the immigration, which is higher than what it’s ever been before, all this kind of Agenda 2030 stuff coming in, and how it all connects together. The billions that gets funneled to Ukraine, which we’ve never had a say in.</p>
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<p>And we’ve got no control over what the elite are doing, and what they want to do with us!</p>
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<p>I mean, on the quick switcheroo that happened, where Covert just died, straight away, they just kind of put it away as AA <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Academic Agent]</strong></span> was saying, and then they got the Ukraine out. And it’s interesting because AA was saying, yeah, don’t make out your only thing.</p>
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<p>And I was kind of on the front lines of the Covid discussion, which is unusual for me. I’m very rarely dragged into drama. But in the Covid one, I was kind of like in a prominent position on a certain side.</p>
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<p>And I was adamant that when the Ukraine thing happened, I wasn’t going to get involved in it. My sort of geopolitics, I’m not a geopolitics bloke. And my sort of take on that is kind of a boring, petty English nationalism. I’m an isolationist.</p>
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<p>So my general sort of view is that England, Britain, the UK, should just stay alone. It’s just stay out! Like we’ve been messing around in people’s affairs, over the world for hundreds of years now. And I’m just, enough is enough! Can we not just sort of dedicate ourselves to our own country, and sorting out the shit that we’re in here, before we go off on another adventure with the Americans as their little lap dog? I just get sick and tired of it!</p>
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<p>I mean, part of the reason people hate the Anglos is because of this. It’s because of this endless sort of drive to cause trouble, and to stir a bother around the world, and meddle in people’s affairs. I just hate it!</p>
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<p>And you can see that our London is up to their necks in it. The politicians are up to their necks in it again. So my general take on foreign affairs is that as close to being an isolationist as you can possibly be. In the way that Ireland used to be, where they would just be looking after their own country, their own borders, and whatever happens on the outside, do your best. It’s difficult. I get that, in a world of great powers. It’s difficult to remain aloof. That requires it’s own form of diplomacy. But at least have a go on it, instead of just being a bunch of shits! Who are constantly stoking up trouble around the world, which we’ve been doing for way too long!</p>
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<p>So that’s my general view on foreign affairs. And the thing where Covid ended, and I was like:</p>
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<p>But that’s always the content that I do, which always gets sidelined for more serious things. So there’s people who send me a message or send me an email about this or that movie or something. And I’m like, I haven’t even watched it because there’s all this stuff going on!</p>
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<p>And so when the Ukraine war kind of started, I was like:</p>
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<p>And you can actually see it on the Substack. I went back and <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I was talking about movies, and books, and things, and then did a few videos on them as well. The classic movie streams with Endeavour. And everything. And I was kind of thinking, like:</p>
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<p>Maybe at the end of the day, because the other side of the argument towards the sort of the technocratic thing. And I don’t want to get hung up on this because I know AA has covered it well, and I agree with all of what he was saying last night.</p>
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<p>I did a video in 2021 called, The Elephant and the Whale, which is similar to what he was saying last night. Where you’ve got this technocratic power and then you’ve got the power which is rooted to a geographical location. When the Ukraine war started, it was kind of like the elephants, as I call it, they kicked back. I know what the Third Positionists were saying all along, which was like, there’s a conflict if you’re talking about having One World Government, One World system, there’s going to be a conflict with regional powers because they do have their own interests.</p>
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<p>The American Deep State has its own interests around the world and especially in the Middle East. And this is going to run counter to an actual sort of One World system. So you get that tension there which isn’t new, which has been around for a long time.</p>
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<p>So I was thinking, well, okay, maybe we got a bit carried away and there’s a bit more life in the elephants than we thought, and all of that. And I was like, well, whatever the case, we’ll see how it pans out.</p>
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<p>And then as the conflict deepened, I was thinking maybe the sort of the technology stuff, maybe it isn’t as much of a danger as we thought. We didn’t get the digital IDs.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Not yet!</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Not yet. Well, yeah, and then all of these other things and then as the conflict eaten I was thinking all of a sudden it was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh, no! The fertilizers supplies have been cut and there’s going to be like, food shortages and we’re going to have to eat the bugs!”</span></h3>
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<p>And then it was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh, no! We’re not going to be able to import all of this cheap energy anymore from Russia. We’re going to have to go full sustainability and especially following the Agenda 2030!”</span></h3>
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<p>And then there was all these different things began to come out of it. You’ve got to be kidding me! I thought this was done with! I felt like Sarah Connor on The Terminator, when the Terminator blows up in that tanker?</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>!</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> She’s given Kyle Reese, like, a kiss and a cuddle:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“It’s all over!”</span></h3>
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<p>And you see the wreckage, and the background begins to move and you think:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh, Christ almighty! It’s still there, it’s still coming after us!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that was my general kind of thing on all of that. But I deliberately didn’t involve myself with the drama around which side to take on Russia and Ukraine. As an Englishman, I can only speak for England. My view is we should just keep out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. Well, I think it’s not as much of a contradiction as some people are saying. We’re between Covid and the Ukraine. I think it’s alarming how quickly this occurred in time together. But the Ukraine, War doesn’t mean that Covid didn’t happen and wasn’t significant, or vice versa. I think it’s just two different factions at the elite level who to some extent are vying for power and to some extent are cooperating.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as you just said, it’s strange, and this is the point made by the <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> among others, it’s strange that a lot of the goals of Agenda 2030 are accelerated by the Ukraine, War. So these aren’t even in contradiction, really.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re in contradiction, I guess you could say, in terms of mentality or attitude, but not in terms of end results, really. I mean, the end result is still going to be that a lot of Europe, let’s say life in Europe is going to be markedly different from how it was in 2019, just as they said in 2020:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re never going back to 2019.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And now the energy shortage, the synthetic food, and all that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Why aren’t we planting food right now? Why aren’t we planting vegetables? And I said this in I think it was, whenever it was, April or something. Why are they encouraging British farmers to stop farming? That’s insane! At a time when exports from Russia and Ukraine are completely disrupted. And then again in the Netherlands, the same thing. Why are they trying to shut down 30% of the farming sector, at a time like this? It’s completely insane!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>During the war, people were and it was encouraged by the State. I don’t know to what extent it was organized by the State, but people were plant using grassland anything, any land that was available, to plant vegetables to stave off the shortages. But no one’s doing that now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I did a video for it. They called them Victory Gardens. They would grow potatoes on the roundabouts, and sports fields were turned into cabbage patches, and all of this kind of thing:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Dig for victory!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And all of this. So you had this big sort of national effort to use all of the ground that was in the country to turn it into producing food.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we were not doing anything of the sort, despite the fact we could easily in lots of different ways. The reason they’re not doing that is because their bosses have invested their billions in all of these fake foods. And that’s what they want to feed us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> There’s a thread by Andrew Anglin on Twitter. He’s now up to 12K, by the way. And he’s saying that well, it’s looking very bad, especially for Germany. But then that has repercussions all across Europe. They want regime change in Russia, they might well want regime change in China as well. Germany is going to have to deindustrialize. It’s going to be massive, the repercussions of all this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He thinks that it will dominate the entire century. And he may be wrong. I don’t really see why he would be, but it seems quite obvious. If you don’t have cheap energy, you cannot have an industrial powerhouse. I don’t really know what else to say about that. Maybe we’ll get back to it later. Unless there’s anything else you’d like to say in summary about the year?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Not really. I mean, I think it feels as if we’re in free fall. Maybe I said that last year, but it feels worse this time. There’s some of the things that I’ve covered and all of it traces back to this kind of technocratic thing. In one of the videos that I did this year, it was quite late in the year, I think it was September or something, was a deep dive into Serco and how that connects with the migrant crisis and all of this kind of thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And over the course of the year I began with rounding up on the Covid stuff, I was doing cultural stuff. And then as things went on in the year, I began to sort of think of it in terms, &#8230; You have to conceptualize this, all the people who rule us, &#8230; I did a video on this which got a lot of views. It was just a quickie one with my phone as well when I was out for a walk.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But basically it seems like the people who rule us are at war with us! I don’t know how you can put it in a different way. Now you can say that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, we’ve got these plans that they want to implement. All of the Green Agenda.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’ll have reasons for that which I can come on to later. I don’t want to go too much on Spengler because I know like, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> and <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> we’re talking quite a bit about it. But I think there is a sort of logic behind what they’re trying to do, but it’s purely indifferent to the wishes of the people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think it gets to a point where you ignore the wishes and the well being of the people to such a degree that it actually does become like malicious and malevolent, and something really sinister! What you just said about not growing vegetables, not growing food, is part of that you think, well, okay, a responsible government would think:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, okay, let’s get on board with this. Let’s use all of these nudge departments and applied psychology NGOs for something which is actually useful, instead of just manipulating them and cattle prodding the public and going along with stuff which is which is destroying them!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because that’s all they do. I mean, like, why do these nudge departments exist in the first place? All of this clever, as Brian Garrison always says on UK Column like this applied psychology, we’re just swimming in it in Britain, much more than what people realize.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Everything which comes out of the government or which is in the adverts, it all connects. Even the story lines on soap operas now are like a sort of memo which has come out of an NGO and extremism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> So prolefeed at this point in 1984, it’s made by machine, it’s just bullshit. Except at least prolefeed sort of left you alone to live whatever degenerate life you wanted as a proletarian. The nudge stuff is actually reprogramming you all the time!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> All the time. And you can see it. UK Column do this where they dig into the sort of the internal papers of the government and the language that they are using. And it’s always this kind of abstract language, it’s always like changing perceptions, perception management, so that something which is destructive or something which is wrong is then sort of presented in a way which is like positive, or at least neutral. And they do it on everything. And I think the people kind of sense that there’s something not right, but cannot quite explain it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so as the year went on, the term, I picked it up from Andy Nuigi <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span> where he was calling it “<em>High Strangeness</em>”. And I really liked the term and I liked the way he was using it. Where you suspect that something isn’t quite right, but you can’t really explain it. And you can’t prove it either. And part of this is where I think it’s across the West, but obviously in Britain, and it’s because we basically live in land which we don’t know what the truth is of anything.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, there’s so much sort of discussion around things with Covid, around with the vaccines and everything. But the truth is we don’t know because we’re not being told the truth! And whatever comes out of the government will be filtered through various sort of NGOs and nudge and applied psychology departments. So that what you actually are presented with is the most positive outcome for the government itself. And it doesn’t make any sense. And you’re just supposed to go along with it. And you see this over and over again!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[21:48]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I might just interrupt. I think maybe the most egregious, crass, example of this is that they are clearly replacing the population. They’re pumping Africans into Europe, and into Britain at alarming, unbelievable numbers! And meantime, they’re saying to you, the “<em>Great Replacement</em>” is a conspiracy theory! So you’ve got obviously contradictory things going on there by the same people, the government. And you’ve got to somehow reconcile that. While your town changes around you, your government are telling you that it’s not happening! That’s just a crazy thing to think. Oh fuck!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Even the way that they’ll do that. When they had this thing was at that little town in Yorkshire where they were going to just destroy it with asylum seekers. What was that called again? I forgot the name.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Linton-on-Ouse.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, even there. So you got locals and some people going along and they’re putting a fight or protesting. But even there you got this kind of fake opposition, NGO, Hope Not Hate connected thing which went in. And when they go in, it’s all of the language they add as well, like outreach programs, challenging perceptions, and challenging preconceptions, and local community, presenting a positive outcome. And all of this technocratic language, which just means population management. Really, it just means bamboozling the population with horseshit so they don’t know if they’re coming or going anymore.:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, we just like our village the way it is. Yes, but why is that? Why do you hate these people?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because the question that you always get is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, okay, what do we do about it instead of moan?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think the question that we need to have is on sovereignty. Because we tend to forget that the government is supposed to represent us, and they don’t.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>None of this stuff has been voted for! None of this is the will of the people! All of the climate change stuff that they’re bringing in. And once again, you’ll see that on the back end in the Deep State, there’s all of these White papers being published about how to get people along, how to kind of create incentive structures, how to change people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you’re going to have like, fake meat or something, it’ll be where what they’ve discovered is that the kids, like, young people will more than likely go along with fake meat burger, like a “<em>beyond meat burger</em>” or whatever, than their father. So what they’re doing is finding ways for the young people to shame older people and frame it in a way where:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You’re just sort out of touch and you just don’t get it. You’re stuck in the past! Look at this, this is healthier, this is cheaper, this is more sustainable!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, it’s all of this psychological manipulation. And people half the time don’t even understand what it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the problem is we’re supposed to be living in a liberal democracy. The government is supposed to represent us in Parliament, and our interests. And it just doesn’t happen. What you’ve got instead is top down technocratic control. It’s just that it calls itself a liberal democracy. They just didn’t change the name.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I was thinking today, if you go back, if you got on a time machine and you went back to 1980 and, you know how on Millenniyule you’ve had people kind of going through all the events of the year? And if you went back to somebody, you went into a pub in 1980 and you said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Hello, I’m from 2022.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh God, what’s its like? Flying cars, spaceships and all of this?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You’ll be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, no, there’s none of that. The government forcibly vaccinated the entire population with something experimental. They are letting in a million immigrants a year. And then you’ll be surveilled and you’ll be deplatformed, you’ll be persecuted if you complain about it too much. People now get arrested for praying silently in their own heads against abortion clinics. We are going to outlaw the car!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you could just go on on! They would think:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Jesus Christ! What happened! Was a revolution? Is it some kind of crazy communist dictatorship which somehow took over?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you’d say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“No. It’s liberal democracy. We call it the same thing. It’s just that the actual substance of it is radically different!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you can say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, maybe the population never really did have a say, even in 1980.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I think they had a bit more of a say than now. At least it wasn’t like this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I think they were taken more seriously by the government, because even if the government was even by then controlled by globalist institutions, and I think it probably was. Even if democracy was always a sham, and I think it probably was, I think they still were scared of the public in a way that they simply aren’t now. Well, I don’t know about that. Maybe not quite the right thing because they are scared of the public. But it’s more like contempt, like you would despise a wild animal that could attack you at any moment, that kind of thing. This notion of the public as a fickle, aggressive, mass of just unthinking apes, that seems to be the general perception.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, again, I come back to the White House and I’m sorry to go over to America for this, but I think it’s largely transferable to here. The White House when Biden first got in, and the army were all outside the big fence, all of that. That seems to be an administration that does fear the public, but not in a good way, not in the way that the government is supposed to fear the public, in a democracy. In a the democracy the government is supposed to fear the public insofar as it doesn’t want to let them down, doesn’t want to fear them voting them out at the next election. Respects them, takes them seriously.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s not like that it’s more like that wild dog could bite us at any moment unless we keep it under strict control. That seems to be the attitude that the government now has towards the public.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that’s basically what’s changed here. I think in the past, up until I don’t know, it would be difficult to set a date on this gradual continuum, really, rather than a hard change. In the past, I think the government felt:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’ve got to at least pretend to take them seriously. We’ve got to at least pretend to care about them. We’re going to at least pretend to care about what’s good for them.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas at this point, it’s just:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You’ll do what you’re told or you’ll be deplatformed, demonetised, discredited, demonized, hounded down, your house raided, knock on the door in the middle of the night, or whatever. Your bank account closed down, newspaper articles about, you lose your job. It’s kind of totalitarian.</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:08]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s funny because I mentioned before that I’ve kind of been quiet for the last week, or ten years even, I don’t know, at least since the 21st when I went on Christmas. But I just wanted a Christmas break, basically. But what that does is give me time to sort of catch up on what nerds on YouTube are talking about, what new movies are, the slagging off, and all of this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’m coming to this because I’ve been writing a script all day for a video essay, which I’m hoping to get out soon. And what happened. What I discovered, of course, just taking a break from the politics and dabbling a little bit of nerd culture, is that Disney released a Star Wars series called Andor, which wasn’t shit! And it wasn’t even that woke, but it was really gritty and kind of sinister. And the usual kind of Molar <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span>, Critical Drinker, and all that crowd, was saying it was great.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I thought okay, fair enough. And what it does is depict – I don’t want to give too much away because this will be a video essay – but what it does, Andor, is kind of a realistic portrayal of what life was like living under the Empire. So there’s no light sabres in it. There’s no Sith. There’s no Jedis, and all of this. It’s just these bureaucrats. And they’re also highly effective. They’re also very intelligent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what I thought was interesting when I was looking, and I watched it all over the last few days. And I’ve actually quite enjoyed it because it is like this meditation on totalitarianism. But what I thought was interesting about it and what I’m going to get into in the upcoming video is that a lot of people on the Left, like the Left sort of video essayists on YouTube with massive channels, like 650,000 channels and stuff. And they were also celebrating it. One of them called Just Right. They were saying like it was Antifascist art. So what it was, was a meditation on life under fascism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My response to all of this is like, it’s funny that they have to always look back at fascism, as their “<em>go-to</em>”. When you dig into it, it turns out it is like Marxism. It is about fomenting rebellion against totalitarianism. The script writer admitted it. And the main character is supposed to be modeled on a young Joseph Stalin.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I thought it was kind of weird because when you look at it, it’s got a Brutalist architecture and everything, what they’ve done, I thought it’s kind of weird because they’re saying they are sympathizing with the rebels who are to the point where people are literally having their bank accounts closed down. The Empire have got new legislation to trace, like which funds are going where and whatnot. Give me a second. It’s all about these rebels. And some of them are idealists, some of them are anarchists, some of them just want to go off-grid. Some of them are saying, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Like very familiar!</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> That’s exactly what I put in the essay! Amongst the kind of the rebels, because they’re not yet organized or anything. All they are is they’re kind of collectively pissed off and sick of the empire, but they haven’t got a clue what to do about it. So this kind of new series traces that process.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what I thought was interesting about the big sort of Lefty channels was that they were saying this is Antifascism, which it was. But what they’re doing is assuming that they are like the rebels, they are the revolutionaries. But can’t they see that they are actually the empire? Like a fucking tyranny! Because that’s the truth! But they can’t own up to that, they can’t admit that they’ve got too much power, and that they’re vindictive.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, all you’ve got to do is look at Oxford Street. That could be the utter domination of the rainbow flag, with all the triangles in it. I don’t even know what you call that one. But that’s that was an imperial form of domination! Jesus Christ, man! They’ve got people kneeling to black men! Like literally kneeling to their icons. But they are, what the rebels? No! They need to understand what it is they have become and what it is they actually do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:19]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Because I don’t believe we are living under a Marxist system, I think we’re living under a sort of hypercapitalist oligarchy, and they just use Left-wing types as useful morons, useful idiots, as the kind of the bureaucratic core.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because as I say, you don’t need this. When they talk about the “<em>banality of evil</em>”, and that will chaff at people in the chat, I think, because it’s Hannah Arendt when she’s talking about Adolf Eichman, I think it was. But the main point to that was that she’s saying when you actually look at evil straight in the face, it isn’t anything metaphysical, it isn’t anything mysterious, or esoteric. It is like a kind of boring bureaucrat.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In our time and the system that we’re living with, that’s absolutely the case. There’s nothing mysterious or deep about these people who do it. They are just like automatons. If you look at somebody like Jeremy Hunt, or Tony Blair, or Rishi Sunak, or Matt Hancock, they are all nothing but managers and bureaucrats! There’s nothing more to them than that. And yet these are the kind of the petty bureaucrats. And that’s not the top, for God’s sake! Like the ones in the local councils who cover up atrocities in Rotherham and all of this, they’re even worse. They’re just completely brain dead!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is how the system functions. And there’s a conspiracy theory that goes around by that John O’Looney, or something, he always comes out with it. And it’s that the migrants who are coming over the English Channel, like they are actually secretly UN soldiers. And that at some point in the future, there’s a signal going to go, there’ll be a new lockdown or something. And all of these, like, migrants are going to, like, don their uniforms and be like boots on the ground, occupying force.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I just think it’s so wrong, because it doesn’t understand the nature of the tyranny that we’re living under. It isn’t hard power. We’re in a Panopticon, where everybody, &#8230; If you go to the pub, this is something that I did post on Substack. I got kicked out of a pub by a barmaid at the end of June, at the end of summer, because of my politics. It’s a funny story that I could go into, but, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> It wasn’t even your politics, insofar as nationalism, or whatever, was it? Was it not about the, &#8230; You tell the story.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> So I went into a pub. I was in an area in Tynmouth. And they’ve got these pretentious little sort of pubs there. And I popped in because I don’t like the vibe there, but I do like the real ale. It’s kind of like I know it’s hipster and all of that, but nevertheless, there are some lovely stouts. I like a nice pint.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I went in and I was having a few pints. I stood at the bar talking to the blokes, and these places are very small, so you’ve got, like one barmaid.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I just looked at her and she had, like, bright red hair, she had the piercings, she was fat. I knew that this was a product of the university. I knew that she was going to be Left-wing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I got talking, I had about three or four pints, but I got talking to a couple of fellows at the bar, just general chat. And it got on to the Ukraine kind of thing. And my general point was that the West had provoked Putin. Because they had this kind of standard bulldog nationalist take where it was kind of like toy boy Twitter, where this is now the great sort of patriotic struggle, and we’re going to stick it to the Ivans. And it’s like this sort of post modern replica of World War II, over and over again. It got a little bit of a heated discussion, but it was just blokes at the bar, you know what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the barmaid was just throwing me daggers! And what I thought was interesting about it was that she kind of watches over the atmosphere of the bar. And she has her own politics embedded within her, which she’s picked up. She’s from university or whatnot. But the thing is, she is politicized. But most of the blokes, most of the normies in the pub, like, they wouldn’t be they were just a herd. But when she heard me going to talk and coming out with certain opinions, nothing controversial. But there was something in her which detected that I was an enemy. And it was like she had to protect the flock.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:58]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> It’s interesting. I wonder what it was. Was it your body language, facial expressions, things you said? How did you give yourself away here?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Because I was saying that the West provoked Putin. And I was mentioning about how it’s the “<em>next thing</em>”, what do you call it? The “<em>current thing</em>”? And I was talking about how everybody had Ukraine flags and they had replaced their mask avatars with Ukraine flags. And I was mainly focusing on how easily brainwashed everybody was and that it was mainly just the money power, and this is it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she came around behind the bar. So it was me, and by this time one of the fellows left. And I was talking to this blog and I was saying, I mentioned offhandedly, the Chinese came into it. And I said that our leaders don’t look out for us, because at this time I was saying we’re going to sit in the cold in winter. And for some reason or another, I can’t remember exactly, but I said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“The Chinese aren’t ruled by retards, and we are.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she screamed from behind the bar:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You will not use that word in here!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“What word? Chinese?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“No! The other one beginning with R!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Do not use that kind of word in here.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Why? Is ‘retard’ politically incorrect now?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she went:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Yes, it is in here!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Look, at the end of the day, you’re a barmaid. Are you not supposed to pour the pints, and just sort of shut up?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You not just supposed, &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like I’ve been drinking in bars in the Northeast since the mid 90s. Like, I’ve never known anything like this! I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“I’m being thought policed by the barmaid in the bar here?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“It’s in my contract that I have to keep, &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What was it again? It was some kind of bureaucratic language about keeping it civil and all of this kind of thing. And I was like, all right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what she was really doing was a “<em>flex</em>”. She was letting me know that she’s in a position of authority, and that she having to sort of reel me in, if, you know what I mean. She was thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“He’s an enemy! He has ideas and a way of expressing himself that I’m not comfortable with. He’s not a normie. He’s in the game! He is politicized!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what happened next was that obviously by this, I went off on a long speech about how the Deep State and capital and how easy it was for them to Hoodwink the Left into being useful idiots. And I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You remember when you had all the Left against war. And look at them now, they’re all like, ‘oh, let’s nuke Russia’!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I went into how easily manipulated they were. And all you had to do was give them a sense of authority and a sense of power. And of course, she sat behind the bar like just soaking all of this up. And she was fucking seething, she was! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Woes bursts out laughing]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I was saying, they were the most pathetic bastards on earth! I was saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“All you need to do is let them feel great, let them see it nice, and they will literally support Big Pharma. They will literally support the Deep State! And all we have to do was promise to plant Rainbow Flags in Kiev. Oh, sorry, “<em>Keeth</em>”, because that’s the new thing. We just changed our minds like this.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she was just going, honestly, she was just like staring straight into the back of the head.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the conversation went on. It got a little bit more controversial because I began talking about immigration, and stuff, as well. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Woes bursts out laughing]</strong></span> There was two blokes there, and I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You do know that you’re going to be, or your kids are going to be, minorities in Britain?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And these are sort of, for a start, like, this is two middle aged White blokes in a bar in North Tynside.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And one of them turned around, just laughed, and he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“So what! Who cares?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she put her hand on her hip and she was kind of like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Yes, so what have you got to see it as that?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, okay, can you name me a single other ethnic group in all of history who have willingly and rapidly allowed themselves to become a minority in their own country? Has it ever happened, or did they not fight tooth and claw for that territory? You can’t claim that this is a normal state of affairs, when you are the outlier in all of human history!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then she said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh, well, so you’re a racist now on top of everything else?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I went:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Here we go again.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You’re just regurgitating things that you’ve heard on the television.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You’re like a robot. It’s just like these little attack words again and again.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“I think you’re just going to have to leave. I’m not putting up with this!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That was it. And I was like, I’ll finish my pint. That’s it. And as I walked out, like, three or four people cheered! As if:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“He’s gone! Finally, he’s gone!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, you know, it was like Al Pacino in Scarface leaving the restaurant:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Say goodbye to the bad guy.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I just thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“There’s no way ever, you’re going to reach these people. Never!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> This thing about the English pub is very important. It’s possible that non-Brits who are listening to this perhaps won’t get the significance of the situation you’re describing. Because the English pub, and the Scottish pub, were places where I mean, it would have been unthinkable, even in our adolescence, it would have been unthinkable that something like this would happen. That a mere conversation, would lead you to get thrown out of a pub!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because the pub is a place where traditional sort of rowdy atmosphere, it’s not family friendly, it’s definitely not politically correct, it’s the place where men discuss everything! Everything! And there are no holds barred.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s kind of almost the point of the pub, in a way. You could say it has a weird sort of Internet blood sports thing. And I hate to say that, but it’s got this weird sort of egalitarianism about it where men of all classes, and it’s men. It’s specifically, men, who would go to pubs on their own.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Men of all classes would go to the pub and get into quite heated discussions with each other about everything! Whether it’s football, current events, religion, politics, whatever, everything! And probably also very sort of autistic niche subjects as well, everything.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the idea that debate would be circumscribed in a pub is just laughable! Up until this era, up until now! Like the last ten years. Prior to that, it’s just unthinkable.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[49:06]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I did say it was sort of pretentious, really. There was a certain type of people in there. So if you go to a kind of more chavy pub, you can actually just say whatever you want. The price that you pay is that you’ve only got, like <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> Back Label and Guinness.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when I was leaving and there was people cheering, the bad guy was leaving and all of this, I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“At the end of the day, fuck you people, I’m going to go to the social club. I’m going to go and have a watery, pint of <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> Black Label and be among my own kind, who are still in their way, like free!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They may have pitbulls under the table and all of that <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>. Everybody’s wearing a football top, but it’s a bit like the proles, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I was going to say the pub you were in was more like “<em>Outer Party</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> But it was just the fellow who says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Nobody’s replacing me! I haven’t got any trouble!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What he was trying to do, was be a kind of a bit of a macho, hard man, but in terms of justifying being ethnically cleansed in his own country! I mean, what a tit <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Well, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> this is it! And that leads back to things like the 90s “<em>Lad</em>” culture, but especially the more contemporary hipster thing, where you’ve got a guy with a big thick beard, but he’s advocating for his own replacement! Or he’s advocating for LGBT rights, or something. Just something completely the opposite of traditional masculinity. It’s very strange, it’s very perverse.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I said basically like, well, okay, so he was saying that nobody is attacking him, he doesn’t feel that he’s in danger. Bearing in mind, by the way, like North Tynside is still one of the Whitest parts in England. I’ll just slip that in there. But nevertheless I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, okay, it’s a shame that the girls in Rotherham and all of these in Burnley, and all of these places where they got mass raped off immigrants, it’s a shame that they weren’t as secure as you, isn’t it?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then it fell back on the sort of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, White men do that as well!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“No, they don’t! No they don’t. They do not do it in that ethnic way! Mainly because they’re all cucks like you!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Well, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> yeah, that’s part of it. But also when people say this, that White men would do it too. The reason the Pakistanis do it, and I’ve got to be very careful what I say here. But people will say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The reason the Pakistanis do it is that they get away with it. If White men knew that they would get away with it, they’d be doing it too. They’d be gang raping twelve year old girls!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I simply don’t believe that they would!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> No, I mean, it didn’t sound right the way I put that, just there, that they are all cucks. This isn’t to say that you should be doing terrible things or anything like that. But it’s more like the mentality of him where he doesn’t even see an “<em>us and them</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I think everyone understood what you meant. It’s an imperialistic aggressive, you could say hyper masculine thing that they are doing there. It’s not feminine, what they’re doing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> The outgroup will definitely see him as “<em>the other</em>”. It’s just that he doesn’t see any “<em>other</em>”. But I don’t even believe that fully. I think he was just going along with what people wanted to hear in the pub in the here and now. He probably hasn’t thought about that. He certainly didn’t know what he was talking about, because he’d never heard of even the fact there was grooming gangs.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> It’s alarming! Some people really don’t. I mean, I remember just a few months after the Rotherham scandal. I was in a debate, I got into several debates on Facebook. Back in those days, I was always on Facebook, before the channel really took off. And this was what I did online, was getting to very, very involved debates on Facebook.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And time and again I found English men, British men were just insufferable! They were just absolutely awful to get into debates with! Because their priority was to be fashionable, and to show that they had fashionable views. And this was kind of a cross-class as well. It wasn’t just sort of middle class hipsters or whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I remember just a few months after the Rotherham thing that there was a guy who had never heard of it! He didn’t know! And I don’t know, I was utterly perplexed! I didn’t understand how can you not have heard about this. But I guess this is it. He probably had heard about it and he’d just forgotten, he just deleleted it. It wasn’t something that was useful to him in proving his social acceptability. It wasn’t of utilitarian value to him, so he just simply forgot it. Whenever it came up in a Facebook debate, he was lost.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Behind the scenes. I’ve been doing a lot of writing on a bigger project, which isn’t ready yet. But I actually touch on this a lot from a sort of <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> perspective of power. And I think one of the problems is that because these immigrant groups, they are clients of power. I know, like people like to sort of pin it on like Sharia Law or whatever it is, but I think you really have to take it back to power, and the power structure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the fact is they are protected by power, and White people aren’t. And somebody who’s pissed off about all of this, when he looks at the immigrant group in question, he knows that there’s a power behind him, there’s a power behind that, which is the power of the State.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> It’s like the barmaid behind him, staring at him, as you experienced. The same sort of thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:43]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah. It’s not so much the immigrants themselves, it’s the fact that they know that what you’re looking at really is a friend of power, and that he isn’t. And that’s quite an intimidating thing. Because, you know, that when if anything happens and anything kicks off, power is going to back them and not you. And that’s exactly what’s happened, time and time again!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. I think this is an area where the ordinary guy is just screwed, really! Because you have to think your way into a position where you win the approval of the powerful. And at this point that means a very unnatural position. It means forgetting all sorts of things, contradicting all sorts of things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I guess the alarming thing about the last few years and it wasn’t just Covid, it was there before then, is how amenable people, how pliable people are, how able to believe contradictory stuff they actually are. There’s not that much rationality in the ordinary person. I think this does relate to class in a way. The middle class is just the worst for this. They’re just absolutely awful for this!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think the working class, still the Midwit meme, similar sort of thing. It’s the middle class who are just the upholders of delusion, pretension, lies, fashionable lies! It’s a Ukraine avatar. But of course, you also do get the working class who are aspiring to be middle class. And they know that the way to do it is to ape that behaviour, to have the fashionable view on everything. Because there now is a “<em>fashionable view</em>” on every given topic!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, this is part of why she detected me as some sort of heretic straight away, because in all of the “<em>current thing</em>” avatars, I was going through them one by one and kind of critiquing them and knocking them down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I did think it was interesting to think of it what we’re engaged in, because we are politicized. And then you’ve got all of these sort of normies that aren’t. And then you’ve got some chubby cow who’s like a Leftist. She’s had her own kind of political awakening in the universities and whatnot, and in all of the social circles that she moves in.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s a bit like in the Matrix where you’ve got like people who are awake, and then you’ve got the Agents, and everybody else is just like these holograms, just like this dead herd. That’s actually what it’s like.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>When she was aware straight away that there was something wrong with me, I was an enemy, even though I wasn’t using racial slurs, or anything like that. It was just there! It was just sort of detected, the alarms went off. And then her task was to sort of make sure are that I was contained and controlled.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> To cut you off from the others present, so that your influence couldn’t spread.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> In real life in the pub!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Just for the sake of my mental image of this girl. Was she middle class? About 25?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[59:23]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s hard to tell because they dress like shite. It’s like this deliberate dressing down. To be fair, the accent that she had wasn’t from the northeast either. It was from further south. It was more like a nondescript sort of middle England sort of accent, rather than regional.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So in a place, lake Tynemouth or Newcastle itself, there is the heavy presence of hipsters, and irritating university types. They like it for some reason. There’s a big university presence. There’s just something about Newcastle which seems to attract them. I don’t know why that is, but it’s as if they go to a place like Newcastle because it’s perceived, or once was, as being a bit earthy, and a bit kind of authentic.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So then they’ll go along and just dominate it and turn it into a hive of shit liberally! Which was even in my own drinking career, I used to go to the bars in the Big Market and it was wild! And you weren’t under control.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I used to meet up on a Saturday afternoon with all me mates. There’d be about twelve of us, and we’d go drinking. And we’d begin in a little pub in the back alley on the Big Market called Printer’s Pie. And nobody was watching what they were saying in any way at all! Even the idea of it would have just seemed incomprehensible! Nobody would have been able to believe it. And there’d be a barmaid there as well. But the barmaid’s task was to just bring your beer, and look cute.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, not tone police, for fuck’s sake!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Just on the word “<em>retard</em>”. When you were talking when you were telling the story, I remembered that the word “<em>retard</em>” gets you an instance reprimand on Twitter. It’s a word that some people, quite a lot of people have fallen foul of this. There is no context, I don’t think there is any context in which that word is allowed on Twitter. Maybe if you’re quoting someone else, you might get away with it. But it’s like a red flag word. I don’t think it would result in an immediate ban outright, but it would get picked up by the algorithm and you’d be screwed just for using that word.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In the same way as she was saying that word is not allowed in here. That is a bad word. That’s like a hate word. It’s like the N word, or whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I mean, I thought retard was just a nicer way of saying spastic, or spaca!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> It is! But it’s kind of like “<em>coloured</em>” as opposed to something stronger. It’s less bad than the very strong word, but it’s still really bad.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> So what do you get if you call somebody a spaca?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Oh, I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> The thing is that’s kind of archaic, isn’t it? A lot of people <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> wouldn’t even know what that was these days, who’ve been so softened, you know what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I don’t know. This is just a horrible thing about the pub. When you first started telling the story, I had the image of her, &#8230; I didn’t catch you saying that it was a hipster place. So I was thinking it’s a stereotypical English pub.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> But it’s difficult to actually say what that is anymore, because the pubs where I used to be able to say whatever you want, I think there’s always, &#8230; It takes you to class, because I was always in working men’s clubs when I used to go out, the Big Market was all working class.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Back in the 90s you would have places in Newcastle which were a little bit more up market, but they tended not to be pubs at all. They would be like restaurants or something. It was like if you’ve got money, if you’re well to do, you’ll go to a restaurant, and it’ll be all kind of lovey dovey, and gentle, and swanky.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But for the rest of us, sort of factory jobbers who are let out for a day to spend our wages <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> on a Saturday, in one go. It was just all of the pubs, all the pubs were yours.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what began to happen, I went away in the early 2000s and I would come back and I could see like, it used to be, where the the Quay side was like a total dump! It was really dilapidated. It hadn’t changed at all since the Get Carter movie, and all of this. But then when Blair got in because Newcastle and the Northeast in general were really big on Labour, to be fair, when Blair got in, there was just hundreds of millions got funneled into Newcastle especially. And all along the Quay side, you had all of this development coming in.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Kee? Kee? Sorry. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Are you not familiar with that meme?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> No.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt. Go on.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:05:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> You had all of this development going along and the stuff that they brought in, it seemed to be like targeting, and it didn’t want people like me and my mates going in anymore, though we still did, when I came back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it was a much more genteel kind of thing they were bringing in. It looked different as well. The carpets and the sort of rough and tumble of the old pubs, that all went, and you got this much more sparse and everything was glass. You got more and more people from down south popping in and appearing. And it was just different.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So then you ended up where this kind of the actual Geordies would just hang out in the Big Market and then on the hay market. And it just sort of kept creeping in, until everything just, &#8230; So I don’t know. I would never go there now anyway. But it was changing, and you got all of this money coming in and it kind of changed into something more middle class than what it was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because I remember the Big Market was wild. It was famous for it. I’m not saying it was great, I mean, it really was just fat slags rolling around with their knickers hanging down. It deserved a bad reputation that it had. I’ve got to be careful about being too kind of romantic about it, because it was kind of grotty and seedy. And it was tough and there was people getting glassed. I’m not going to be too kind of bleary eyed and nostalgic about it all. It was a bit of a dump, if I’m honest.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> The thing is, though, this process applies not only to places like that. It also applies to the kind of places that I went to in my younger days. Gothy places, grungy places, all of that has now been, I don’t know how you, blandified, streamlined, consumerized.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you look at a place like Camden Market, for example. When I was an art student, it was 20 years ago. And it was kind of grimy, it was kind of dilapidated. And it was where middle class students, art students, and whatever would go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it was kind of cool. And it felt quite, I’m not going to say countercultural, because I don’t think it really was, but it was countercultural in a harmless way. But it had a nice atmosphere.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And if you go there now, it’s been New Labourized, it’s been Blairified. There’re glass and steel, the Victorian buildings have been they’ve been given contemporary extensions and add ons. And it’s big names are there now. Everything is commercialized in a way that it just wasn’t 20 years ago.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And other people will say, that’s rose tinted. Of course, there was all this commerce. Of course I know that. But there’s this fileting of culture, this streamlining, of flattening of culture, down to something that is very bland and efficient, and anyone can dabble in it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It is a process that I think has been almost universal. I mean, I think only the most, maybe the highest echelons have been immune to this process over the last, 200 years. It’s a depressing thing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But again, it makes me think of the World Economic Forum with their graphs and pie charts and their diagrams about how everything is going to be very streamlined in the future. It’s the same kind of process of just simplifying and just ripping the soul out of everything, whether it’s a working class pub, or some grungy place, whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:09:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I remember I came back and I went for a drink with me mates, and he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“It’s changing around here now, isn’t it?”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“They should do it on the Quay side.”</span></h3>
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<p>And this is before all of the multicultural language was seeping in. And I remember distinctly the first ever time I heard the word “<em>multicultural</em>”. I lived abroad and I was watching television. Oh, no, I was reading. I used to get the Sunday Times and I’ll have to get it on Monday. But it was a big, thick book, and I’d read it all the way through, everything that was in it. And that was like me catching up for the week on things back home.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I remember reading an article, and I’d already seen the problems with immigration in places like France and Holland. And I remember it was sort of dawning on me that they were doing it properly now to Britain, as well.</p>
<p>And I remember Gordon Brown using the word “<em>multiculturalism</em>”. And that was the first time. It was in an article about something and it was the first time I’d ever seen that word like that. I’d never heard the word “<em>multicultural</em>” before! I don’t know what it was, maybe 2006 or something. And it was just sort of expected that I knew what it meant and I thought it was a good thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it was strange for me because I’d been away, I hadn’t been home that much, so I was out of touch with all of these subtle changes to the language that was being used. But I knew that I hated the term straight away! Because I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“We’re not multicultural! It’s our culture! And who decided this?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Instantly, I knew that I hated it! But I went back anyway, and I went for a drink with me mate, and he was talking about some of the changes that were happening down on the Quay side. And he said he hasn’t been down there in a while.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“I like it down there these days. It’s very diverse!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Oh my God!</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And remember, this is somebody who’s just like me! And I thought, and I said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Diverse? What does that mean?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You’ve got the kebabs in there?”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he’s saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“All those people from all over, they’ve got food stalls. It’s an amazing array of, &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What do you call it?</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> An <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> incredible range of restaurants!</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s an incredible range of food stalls along the Quay side! It was just the way that he sort of absorbed this kind of language, which had been worked out, like I say, in the government, in the NGOs. This kind of positive sounding language.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, it didn’t take him long before he changed his mind, but it was just without thinking, he’d come up with this new term. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Back in the day <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>!</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> There was multiculturalism, and now he has me mate coming up with this word like “<em>diverse</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because we’d never used language like that. We’d never used it. You would just call them foreigners. It was right there. When people say Britain’s always been multicultural. I’m not that old, but I remember a time I was an adult before I’d even heard that word.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, well, I’ve been ranting and raving of a Telegram channel called Forgotten History UK. I’ll just shill it one more time. It just started on Telegram two weeks ago or something. They’ve already got more than 1,000 followers, and it’s fantastic! And it shows mostly, mainly London, mainly in the first half of the 20th century and the end of the 19th. And it’s entirely White.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There is no way, &#8230; Even the capital was vastly, vastly White! I’m not going to go on about it because I’ve mentioned this enough times before.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this whole idea that Britain has always been diverse or multicultural is just utter nonsense! And that’s the capital. If you then talk about a regional place like Newcastle or Edinburgh! At my primary school, there were three non-White kids. Two of them were a couple of Chinese sisters, and then there was a half black girl. That was it. I guess there were several hundred pupils, that was all. And then at my high school, there was again something like five of them out of over 1,000.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> In all the years of me going to school, there was one black girl who was about five years older than me. And then there was another one, but she half black and she was a few years younger than me. That’s out of all of the classes and all of the years at school, that was it. That was it!</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> It’s just such an obvious lie. And the scary thing about this, and this relates to what we were saying earlier, is how people go along with this, who are the same age as you and me, so they know damn well! They could remember if they wanted to. They could remember their own schooling, their own childhood. And they would know that it wasn’t always diverse.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then people older than us, people in their their fifties and sixties and seventies, who parrot this bullshit. They can remember 20, 30 years further behind, further back than you and I can. And yet even they are coming out with this bullshit. This is something I find amazing! Sorry, go on.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:15:17]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I remember, this is true. People are surprised at this, but I swear on my life it’s true. When I was a boy, I used to stay at me grandmothers, when I was little, ten years old or something like that, and I used to take the homework over. My granddad was a very knowledgeable man. He used to help us with the homework.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And one of the projects that I had it was something to do with religious symbols. And my grandfather took a look at it and he saw that there was actually, I had this book and I opened it up and there was like all of these Sikh symbols, and there was the Hindu stuff. So it was there in the education curriculum, even that far back. But what he said, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“What’s the name of the teacher who’s giving you this?”</span></h3>
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<p>I won’t mention it because I might give too much away, but I mentioned the name of the teacher. And me granddad went:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“I bet she’s jewish.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>And I was like qy where? Why?”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> kind of saw this I was looking at all of these, from his perspective, all of these kind of foreign religions that he would think I had no business learning about. I should learn about Christianity. But I was being taught these other religions. That came to haunt me years later. And I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“That’s really weird that he should say that, actually!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Very based granddad there! That’s amazing! It is amazing because, without wanting to get onto too controversial topics. It’s funny how people, &#8230; Because we think we’ve sort of alighted on some quite arcane knowledge on that matter, on the internet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But people a long, long time before us, who certainly didn’t have the Internet, somehow knew about it. And I don’t know how they did. I really don’t know how they, &#8230; I mean, if they got into nationalist politics, organizations, or whatever, obviously I can see how they would find out about it then. But otherwise how did that enter their lives? It’s difficult enough now for it to enter people’s lives. It’s something you’ve really got to seek out. Amazing!</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I think before the war, for that generation, basically everybody was anti-semitic. Maybe not in the way which has emerged on the internet in more recent years, but there was a certain stereotype around that group. And they all knew it as well.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> But it’s not the sort of miserly, money grubbing, type that we’re talking about here, is it? With your granddad</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> He’s talking about this woman pushing multiculturalism, but obviously wouldn’t use that term.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, you got to be careful what you’re saying because by ascribing stereotypes to a group and everything. So, yeah, that’s just an interesting</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I certainly never want to do that. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[lol]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> That’s just a little interesting personal anecdote, take it or leave it from me.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Well, I mean, I can remember, to show the other side of it. Middle class boomer woman, teacher. A school teacher. And in many ways, she was a really good, kind, lovely person. But she imbibed the politics of that time, that era. And I think this is around about the year 2005, maybe 2010. And I said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I think it’s right that school kids in Britain are taught about Christianity, and I don’t think it’s necessarily right that they’re taught about the other religions.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And her answer was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“They should be taught about all religions equally.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>Because from her perspective – she was an atheist. So from her perspective, it’s just a matter of curiosity. It doesn’t matter! There is no religion that is a part of our culture, that’s a part of our identity. It’s just a matter of academic interest. So therefore all religions are of equal interest, equally large, equally small, whatever. And no particular religion should have any prominence over any others.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, I mean, that’s a truly sort of multicultural notion there. Well, it’s a boomer multicultural notion <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>! Because it’s all detached, it’s distant, it’s something remote, it’s a matter that doesn’t concern us, it’s not our problem. It’s just something that’s of intellectual interest. Whereas a more contemporary multicultural treatment of it is this is a core part of everyone people’s identity.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:20:35]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, it’s pure relativism, because then not one of them is more important than another. So you end up with nothing of your own, because, well, it’s got no place. There’s no special place for yours.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Exactly! And that was the point I was making, that Christianity should have prominence over the others because this is a Christian country. That was what I was arguing at the time. Bear in mind, this was 2005, 2010. And what I would now see is Christianity and Paganism should be taught about. And we’re not saying that religious instruction, as in:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Here is the truth, children.”</span></h3>
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<p>I mean, it just learning about the religion.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I would now say, yeah, Christianity, but also Paganism. Back then, it was just, I only knew about Christianity, and I just didn’t like this idea that Sikhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, that these would be given equal place in the curriculum. I learnt about those religions at high school because I took that subject. Religious studies. Fine.!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But to say that why you should do away with Christian hymns at school, and I’m sure they have by now, I’m sure that’s just been completely eradicated. And I think that’s crazy, because this is all about identity. It’s not even about the religion itself. This is giving the children, it’s inducting them into a tradition, and if you take that away, they’re going to be inducted into no tradition! And so, of course, the only thing available to them will be to crap, popular, culture. This precious little of that as well, oddly enough. Go on.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, what they’ll be indoctrinated into is like, Left-wing value sets and political correctness, like inequality, and all of these things. That’s what replaced religion. I mean, again, I remember coming back. My youngest brother was still at school. And I remember coming back, and throughout all of my sort of childhood, I had one medal and two certificates or something. And the medal I got was for doing the great, some fun run thing that they had through <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> Park. Basically, I had almost nothing <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> like achievement.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I came home. My brother’s bedroom was because he was still at school until the mid 2000s, and his bedroom was just completely plastered in certificates! And it used to piss me dad off because he said:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You get certificates for nothing!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>He said he came home, he came last in a race because he got drunk with his mates the night before he went into school. He was about 14 or 15, and he couldn’t run, he could hardly finish it. And they still gave him a certificate! What kind of loser attitude is that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this was the whole thing when New Labor came in, you saw that all of a sudden, everybody’s “<em>special</em>”, everybody gets a prize, even if you’re completely useless! So what you do then is abolish hierarchy. The person who’s actually really fast in a race doesn’t really matter because you’re going to get the same thing at the end of it anyway. So you’re destroying the incentive to strive towards greatness.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, you’ve devalued excellence. It reminds me of, and I’ve mentioned it before, although not on this Millenniyule, a documentary, and it’s a fascinating thing! It’s called the Loony Left. It’s from 1985, or 86. It was an American reporter who came over to Britain, to London, and because at that time, the London had a reputation for being full of, you know, loony lefties, especially the education sector and social work and whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this journalist interviews various people and it’s remarkable! Absolutely remarkable, how the stuff that was going on in London in 1985 is the stuff that we tend to associate with the Blair era, 15 years later. We tend to think that the doctrine of multiculturalism, for example, that actually predates even this, the doctrine of multiculturalism was first sort of announced as the policy in Britain, I think, in 1981, with the Scarman Report. And, you know, it obviously floated around academia and Lefty teacher training colleges for a few years before that. But it was official as from 1981, which is just amazing to think of now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, this documentary is full, and I would absolutely recommend that people watch it. It’s one of the most interesting things, because it shows how long a lot of this stuff has been going on. It’s not just today, it’s not just, 20 years ago, like the Blair era. It’s been going on since at least the mid-eighties. And enough that by the time that crew came over to do this documentary it was very prevalent throughout London.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And one of the things that they found was, &#8230; And I dare say it was a bit skewed, a bit selective, whatever, I don’t really care, because at this point, you know, that it is that prevalent. I mean, it’s just obvious.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So one of the things they found was right, I think I found it. Yeah, that took a while. Okay, sorry about that. Apparently it’s 16 minutes long, but I thought there was a longer version. But anyway, here it is. I’ll paste into the live chat.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One of the things they found was in this school in London where the competitive sports had been abolished. So everyone was a “<em>winner</em>”. And of course they did, &#8230; Oh Read Johnson has already linked to it. Thank you very much. Let me just check if that is, &#8230; Yeah, that is the version. Thanks very much.</p>
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<p>So competitive sports have been abolished. There were no real rules. There was no way to win, and no way to lose! So therefore everyone was a “<em>winner</em>”! Of course, that completely gets rid of hierarchy! I have no idea how that maps onto the mind of an adolescent boy, a teenage boy. I mean, you’re built to be very competitive at that age. So I don’t know what that does to them other than neuter them.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:27:51]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I came last in one marathon one year and me dad just tossed a fit. It was horrible. He was saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“It’s an absolute disgrace that you’ve come last! There’s not a single other person, &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>Because it was mixed. But he wasn’t even counting the girls. It was just like you have a list of the girls names and then the boys names and I was at last, because I’ve always been shite at running. And my name was at the bottom. And he was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“There’s not a single other lad that you can point to say, ‘I was at least faster than him’. At least then you would have that. You’ve got nothing! You’re last! It’s the worst! Look, you’re literally at the bottom. It’s pathetic!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I thought:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Christ almighty! This is a bit much, isn’t it?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But that was the way it was.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. I had similar your dad would be embarrassed if you didn’t do well. If you didn’t do as well as he thought you could do. There was a sense of shame and that you’d let him down and you fucking had! I mean, let’s be honest, if that happens, your dad is probably right. Mothers can be a bit delusional about their children’s abilities, but fathers tend to be much more realistic. And if your dad thinks that you could have fucking done better, you probably could.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> That shame you feel is, I think, healthy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was absolutely about at least you could point to one other person that could have been last. It’s quite a ruthless kind of mindset when you think of it like that. But it didn’t happen again. So, that’s that.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. Well, I guess we are an hour and a half into this. Do you want to talk about some of the articles that you wrote this year <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>!</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> It’s been a nice chat, but let’s, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Let’s get one of the ones that I did early in the year, which in January this is so early in the year, I might have actually spoiled it on Millenniyule last year. But it was called Cthulhu’s Big Data Hall. And it gets back to the whole Covid thing. And the idea that it wasn’t just about virus. There were so many more things came in with it.</p>
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<p>And the article that I wrote plays around with the idea that what the system, what the government and the Deep State have actually unearthed about the population. And the way I approached it was that if you imagine, say, the vaccination status is the people, and if you imagine somewhere in the British government, you’ve got somebody with a giant map of, let’s just say the UK. It would be England and Wales, I think, and Scotland as a seperate thing.</p>
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<p>But let’s just say a giant map of England and Wales. And on there, what you’ve got, this is the way I can describe it. On there you’ve got just a huge blue blob for all of the people who’ve had, let’s say, just say, two vaccines, because I’m still getting them. But two vaccines there, and it’s a massive swathe of blue, but you can kind of Zoom in, because we all got the letters to our doors from the NHS. It was a personal invite. You get text messages so they know who you are.</p>
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<p>And what I thought was interesting was that they could Zoom all the way in on one single blue pixel, and it would be Jeff D from Burnley, and it would have his thing. But then you can kind of make that go away. And then you could have, say, orange. And what you would then have would be that all of the people who just had one vaccine and there’d be fewer of them, but there’d still be a lot. And the same thing applies. You could still scroll in and you could still Zoom in on one single orange dot.</p>
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<p>And then you could do it again and there would be red dots, but it would be a much smaller group and they’d be spread out. And then you could still do that and you could still scroll all the way in onto somebody, on one single red dot, and that would be the unvaccinated. Now, on the face of it, that doesn’t matter, because the way people talk about it, well, this is just all about the Medicine. This is all just about vaccinating against the virus. That’s all rubbish!</p>
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<p>Because if you think of it, like the way I’m describing it here. And you Zoom all the way in, all the way in on the one little red dot of an unvaccinated person. You’re seeing a lot more actually. What the data reveals there altogether is something a lot more than just people who didn’t get the vaccine.</p>
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<p>Because what you’re also revealing there is the red dots that have shown up and you can see their addresses. You know who they are. They are also the people who are completely immune to the most intense propaganda campaign that there’s ever been. On top of that, they are by extension distrustful of the system. They don’t trust the government, they don’t trust the experts, they don’t trust the scientists. They are critical thinking.</p>
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<p>In other words, what that reveals to the system all of those little red dots because of the vaccine campaign, all of them, all of a sudden, they’ve got all of the dissidents in the country standing there, sitting there on a map presenting themselves to you with their addresses and their telephone numbers. You know exactly who they are!</p>
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<p>Now, people will say:</p>
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<p>But that’s not true. Now they will, I’m sure that me and Woes like, you know, we’ve popped up on the radar. But if you imagine, for example, a single millennial woman, single woman, 35, she works full-time in an office. Now, she is according to the usual sort of data sets, she is extremely compliant with what the system wants. She’ll tend to just go along with it. But not all of them will. And not all of them are in the live chat. Now, not all of them are subbed to people on Substack, or all of this. But all of a sudden, that person there’s a red dot there. And it will be, perhaps, a 35 year old woman who consumes this kind of content and who thinks like a dissident. But until that moment has been utterly grey and unknown to the system.</p>
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<p>But now all of a sudden because of a vaccine rollout, she’s there revealed! And I’m just using that as an example. So what this allowed the system to do, &#8230; And they will think like this because I’ve read how these things work in the Nudge Departments applied psychology. What they are looking at then are people who they’d never known, weren’t actually triggering the alarms on the system. They weren’t doing content, they weren’t leaving comments anywhere.</p>
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<p>But all of a sudden they can now see them. They can now see that benign, boring, 35 year old woman, who works full-time, pays her taxes, she’s a good citizen. But secretly she too is distrustful of the government, and she too is distrustful of the experts. And quietly she is a dissident. And now it would never be known before, but now it is known! So going forward they’ve got a complete read out of who is distrustful of the regime in this country thanks to the vaccine rollout. And that was what that article was about, which I was quite proud of, called Cthulhu’s Big Data Hall.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. Years ago there was an advertising campaign, I think it was for either the TV licence fee, or driving, car tax, or something, and it said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You can’t escape the computer.”</span></h3>
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<p>That was the slogan that was on. I remember seeing it on huge billboards. It was quite a long time ago, actually. And it was this sort of openly flirting with totalitarianism, deliberately, knowingly saying to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You can’t escape the computer.”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s a really shitty thing to say to the general public, because they haven’t done anything wrong, or at least not yet. And you’re basically saying to them:</p>
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<p>It’s very rude! It lacks any finesse at all.</p>
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<p>And that’s the thing. It was the first time when I saw the state not even trying to have finesse, not even trying to soften the blow. It was just being completely aggressive towards the public and trying to make them feel intimidated and scared.</p>
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<p>And that was to do with, I don’t know what it was some computerized system by which they would track who had and hadn’t paid some tax or other, whether it was a licence fee for the TV, or whatever it was. And that’s a version, an early version of what you’re talking about. But I guess that would be down to the individual address. But even then it was not exact because some people didn’t even have a TV. And certainly a lot more people nowadays don’t have a TV.</p>
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<p>With the Covid vaccine it’s much more precise. It’s every individual within the address. And it’s definite. And it’s not just about:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I want to dodge paying a bill. I want to see if I can get away with not paying that 20 quid.”</span></h3>
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<p>Or whatever it is, or 100 quid. It’s got nothing to do with money, because you didn’t have to pay for the vaccine.</p>
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<p>So in other words, it’s a direct reflection of how susceptible you are to government programming. It’s got nothing to do with you trying to save some money. It’s are you on board or not?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:39:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s behaviour. They’re tracking the behaviour of the population by this so the big blue blob, which is like 80% or something. People don’t seem sure. But what they’ve got there, it goes back to what I was saying earlier, the girl and the bar. Where all of a sudden, it’s like she’s monitoring the conversation in the bar to make sure that it doesn’t take directions. Another version of her somewhere in the bureaucracy is doing that for the whole population.</p>
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<p>And what you can see is that this is the sort of the framework of a Social Credit System. Because they’ve already got all of your information. People could say that I’m just paranoid, but I actually do think they’ve absolutely got something like this where they can see all of who hasn’t been vaccinated and their revealed preferences.</p>
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<p>It also means they’re critical thinking. They’re not susceptible as the propaganda. They don’t trust the state. That’s handy to have on people in your population, because what they’re looking at is a purely sort of Schmidtian way is their enemies! Right there! They popped up on the screen.</p>
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<p>So when you go forward and it’ll come in in a different direction through the iPhone or tracking your carbon stuff and all of this, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> With the CBID</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah. So when people say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh, well, it’s over now.”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s not now. All along, the people who were going on were saying all along its about much more than a vaccine. And you can see that it’s been this giant data gathering, along with a lot of other things. But it’s been this giant sort of exercise and gathering data on the general population.</p>
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<p>There’s no way to hide anymore. They know who you are. You’re right there. They know you don’t like them, they know you don’t trust them. And you thought:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh, well, I’ll just keep my head down, and go and <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> my job. I’ll watch a bit of Odyssey on the side, but I won’t have an account, so I’m not logged in anything.”</span></h3>
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<p>You’re still there! You’re still on the grid now.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Absolutely! And if they did want to implement something, some social programme in a town, let’s say. Let’s say Oxfordshire, for example <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>, they would now know exactly which residents in that area they might want to, who knows, put in prison just to get them out of the way, whatever. It doesn’t matter! Or just keep an eye on them. They would know exactly which ones are likely to cause trouble.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, do you remember when Justin Trudeau said all of these people who won’t get the vaccine, and was with the truckers and everything, he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“They’re extremists and they’re racists? !”</span></h3>
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<p>Now, if you go back and you think of that data gathering thing, I would say that this sort of the dissident right community or whatever you want to call it, and the nationalist scene, would have the highest percentage of people who didn’t get the vaccine in the whole country.</p>
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<p>Now, if he’s got access to that data, he is actually correct. I know that it sounds ridiculous, but if he’s had, his policy wonks get in touch with him and give him data on who is actually refusing it, it may well turn up that they’ve just kind of filtered it through algorithms and you can begin to build up a picture of an average person who is refusing to get it. And it may well be that their politics swing sharply to the Right. But they are usually distrustful of the government.</p>
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<p>I know everybody laughs when Trudeau says the people who are refusing it, they’re racist, they’re sexist or whatever. He may have a point there, he may have access to information which you didn’t realize.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Absolutely! I would say a similar thing about Brexit. I think your average sort of Brexciteer, UKIP, voter and so on, would bulk at the idea that they were racist. And the Left would constantly say, Brexit is a racist thing, Brexciteers are racists, and so on.</p>
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<p>But I think there was a certain truth to that. It was a sort of unconscious and really genuinely unconscious feeling about homeland and your own people and so on. And you wanted them to be sovereign, you wanted them to matter again. So the Left, I often think that the Left know the Right better than the Right know themselves.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yes!</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> But now they really do <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>! Because of the technology.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Now they’ve got you! We’re living in a panopticon. You’ve got to assume that you’re being watched all of the time, which is why I don’t do the edgy stuff anymore, because it just seems like suicide. And the cost, is just, isn’t worth it anymore. And you can kind of get your point across just by being careful and thinking carefully about what you’re saying, how you’re putting things.</p>
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<p>I mean, I kind of dropped the ball earlier in the stream when I was telling the story about the bar. Calling him a cuck within that context, is a little bit dodgy. I would like to take that back. But this is kind of where we are now. You’ve always got to watch what you’re saying. You’ve always got to be on the alert. How could that come across? Could that be reframed? Should I get the knock on the door, or my bank account gets closed?</p>
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<p>This is the reality of how we live now. It isn’t coming. It’s here! And you have to be realistic about it. And a lot of the content this year has kind of reflected that. This kind of disorientating thing that you’ve got where you never know what’s true and what isn’t.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, well, that was all the way through Covid that was the case where you just didn’t know what was true and what wasn’t. We don’t need to go into that now. Let’s move on to the next article that you want to talk about.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, there’s a lot of them. Another one that I did, which is a complete shift in gear, I called America’s Toxic Rebrand.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:45:53]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I remember this one. I really liked this one! I thought you made a very good point in it about how well you can tell yourself.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, yeah, so it gives me a chance to indulge one of the sort of me favourite loves, which is like, 80s movies, and why you had that sort of positive vibe around at the time. If you look at the woke stuff now, it’s just completely rancid. And you had that Qatar football tournament, and it causes trouble because they’re trying to export the transsexual stuff, Black Lives Matter stuff, Rainbow Flag. Nobody wants it, everybody hates it.</p>
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<p>And I thought the stuff that I grew up with, during the Christmas, I just watched all of the Indiana Jones movies again, which are problematic for different reasons. We could probably touch on that if you want. But still, it’s so much fun.</p>
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<p>Just generally in the 80s it began to petrol a bit. In the 90s, America had a way of selling itself to the world. If you look I mean, there’s Indiana Jones, but then you’ve got, say, Marty McFly, Back to the Future, or Goonies, or Ghostbusters or all of these things. And if I was a dictator somewhere in the Middle East, I would be more worried about like Rocky than what I am about woke Star Wars, because your population are going to be immunized against just how blatant and disgusting the agenda is.</p>
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<p>Whereas what something like Rocky does is give you a slice of the American dream. It’s saying to you, obviously it came out before Reagan came in, but it was kind of foreshadowing what was to come. And then throughout the 80s, you just got Rocky film after Rocky film. But what you’re getting is a little slice of the American dream. It’s where if you work hard, if you stick in there, stand on your own two feet literally pull yourself up by your bootstraps and all of that, then America is the land of plenty. It’s a land of freedom. The world, like in Scarface, the world can literally be yours!</p>
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<p>So that’s a positive thing to sell. You will be free. There’s not going to be any crazy ideologues tormenting you can get comfortable. All you got to do is work hard. That’s actually a very good sell. And I’d be worried about that message creeping in.</p>
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<p>I mean, it’s no surprise that it was at its peak in the 1980s during the Cold War. So the image that the people in Russia, or Poland standing outside of shops in lines waiting for bread, and then you get this little glimpse of America, this whole positive thing where if you just work hard, it will all be yours, and you’d be free. Nobody’s going to tell you what to do. That’s one hell of a message. But when you get to the woke stuff, it’s just rancid! Absolutely rancid!</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> And depressing, and lifeless, and sour, and not life affirming at all. It’s doctrinaire! It’s shrill, it’s nasty, it’s not upbeat.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, so nobody wants that. And you just think, why, just from a purely strategic perspective, you think, what a fuck up that is. Why would you want to present Lizzie <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span> and all of the transsexuals to the world? Knowing that they just don’t like it! There isn’t a positive vision. It just makes America look like a lunatic asylum! And I can never understand just from that perspective. Or, unless they are just so hell bent on annihilating traditional America that they don’t even care!</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I’ll show a clip from our comedy program. I got this. Let me just see when I saved this file, because it will indicate when I saw this for the first time. But it was about, it was June last year, and the programme is called Shrill, ironically. And it’s supposed to be a comedy. So I’m going to show this clip. It’s 1 minute and twenty seconds long. And bear in mind that this is supposed to be a comedy. Here we go.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:50:52]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Black female:</strong> So, yeah, with first-time clients, I like to talk through the kind of thing you’re thinking, where you want to go with your hair.</p>
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<p><strong>White female:</strong> I brought some inspiration. This is what I’m thinking.</p>
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<p><strong>Black female:</strong> Okay. Well, I mean, this is Bob Marley.</p>
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<p><strong>White female:</strong> Didn’t know who he was.</p>
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<p><strong>Black female:</strong> Okay, but you wanted dreadlocks like Bob Marley?</p>
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<p><strong>White female:</strong> Yeah, I think I could really pull that off. Don’t you think I can pull it off?</p>
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<p><strong>Black female:</strong> I don’t, but it’s not really about that. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of the term “<em>cultural appropriation</em>” before?</p>
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<p><strong>White female:</strong> Oh, I love culture! I went to Berlin once, and all my friends there had dreadlocks.</p>
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<p><strong>Black female:</strong> Yeah, I’m sure they did. Okay, if I were to wear my hair in dreadlocks and I went into work, say, in an office, I would get told to wear my hair straight, to look more professional.</p>
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<p><strong>White female:</strong> That would be really cute.</p>
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<p><strong>Black female:</strong> Okay. Yeah. You’re not getting it. Let’s just not do this. I’m going to ask you to leave.</p>
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<p><strong>White female:</strong> Wait. What? Why?</p>
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<p><strong>Black female:</strong> I tried to explain, but you weren’t listening. So let’s end this now.</p>
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<p><strong>White female:</strong> What is happening?</p>
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<p><strong>White female assistant:</strong> It’s nothing personal. It’s just that we hate you here. Bye Siena. Come on. Thanks so much for coming.</p>
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<p><strong>White female:</strong> Are you serious?</p>
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<p><strong>White female assistant::</strong> I just made food and you’re keeping me from eating it. Let’s go. You should just leave.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[White female enters carrying food for assistant.]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>White female:</strong> She’s not going to do your hair.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Isn’t that just absolutely fucking dreadful!</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> That looks like a parody. That looks like somebody taking the piss out of them!</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> It’s not.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> What’s the message they’re trying to send of that? If a young White woman isn’t, like, well versed in Critical Race Theory stuff, they just have to be thrown out of her hairdressers?</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Christ.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I mean, that she’s a loser. And bear in mind that she’s clearly middle class, a bit naive. She’s been to Berlin, so she’s travelled a bit. But she’s not aware of racial issues because she’s got White privilege. And she carelessly talks about appropriating black people’s culture with their dreadlocks. So she’s an idiot. She’s a privileged idiot! And so she’s just to be degraded and humiliated until she gets the idea, until she gets in line. In the meantime, we should all hate her.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> You see, that the problem, it’s the hairdresser and that other lesbian thing. They are the ones in positions of power. They’re in the position of power both in the hairdressers, but then they’re also in a position of power in society at large, relative to that White girl. There’s not a single institution which would take the side of the White girl! The idea that it’s sort of institutional racism and that she has privilege, it just doesn’t exist. It doesn’t exist anywhere.</p>
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<p>I was thinking about this recently because of the White privilege thing, where there’s the race, what’s the Act that Enoch Powell? The Race Relations Act, was it?</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I think so, yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And then you also in 2010, you get the the Equalities Act. And like the Equalities Act, literally sort of sections out minorities. They literally call it “<em>protected groups</em>”, protected groups of people. And White people aren’t in there, but all of the blacks are. And gays. White people can be in there, if you’ve got one of those things, if you are gay, or trans, or whatever.</p>
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<p>But that legislation, it seems to me, is incompatible with White Privilege Theory. Because what the you can’t privilege two different things at the same time. So people who get into these arguments about trying to say that White Privilege Theory doesn’t exist because I’ve got to work full-time and everything. There’s nowhere in law can you see it, can you point not a single piece of legislation or any acts, or any policies which are there to the benefit of White people. But the Equalities Act. It’s right there. It’s right there. And it privileges, protects, special groups.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I think the idea is that we need to have this special protection for minorities in law, because Whites are privileged in the culture just sort of by default. And so they don’t need to be protected in law, because they racistly protect each other in practice, in the culture.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> But they can’t actually prove that. So if you say, well, the default position of the society is White, well, they’ve got policies in place to do away with that, to prevent that from happening. But there’s no policies anywhere to actually say, well, this is a White society, and we deserve representation.</p>
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<p>There’s a good channel that I watch sometimes called Truth Stream Media. It’s a couple from Texas. They have done good stuff on the Technocracy and all of that, and they’ve started to release, it’s an hour and 40 minutes long video deep dive into Stanley Kubrick’s The Shining. And in this first episode, I understand what they’re trying to do.</p>
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<p>What they’re doing is saying that they’re digging into the dispossession of the Native American Indians and then saying, this is in The Shining. It’s a prominent theme. And the idea is that there is an unsettled past. There’s something on the land and the mountains, and sort of the ghosts of this injustice that was done to the Native American Indians. And this is what you see.</p>
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<p>And if you actually have a look in the Overlook Hotel, it’s called the Overlook Hotel, of course, because something is being overlooked. Something has not been addressed.</p>
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<p>In actual fact. I was talking about this to Endeavour the other day. In actual fact if you’re White in America, you’re getting bombarded with what happened to the American Indians all the time. And Endeavour pointed out that actually it’s mainly with the blacks in Canada. They get bombarded with guilt about what happened to the natives.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, but this is 1980 though. One point to make here is that the Overlook Hotel is called that in the novel, which was written by Stephen King. And there’s really not any racial, &#8230; I mean, the stuff that people talk about in the film. This is my favourite film, so I know a fair bit about this stuff, and the theory and all that.</p>
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<p>And I actually think that it’s probably true about Kubrick working this theme into it. And I don’t even think he did it maliciously. I don’t think he did it in the stereotypical jewish way, undermining. I think it was a genuine thing. And it is a genuine thing that we’re injustices done with the Native Americans.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m not saying that that means America should be cancelled, or that it’s evil, or whatever. I’m just saying I think it’s true and I think that White people are very aware of unfairness, whatever. I don’t really care to justify this. I think it’s what he was going for there. But Kubrick, I don’t believe was the sort of stereotype anti-White filmmaker in the way that we think of today. Sorry, go on.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:59:06]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> In their video about it, they dig up all of these posters. And I know, again, I don’t want to sort of just rehash what other people have said, but when you’re with <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> and you’re talking about the Faustian and spirit, you do actually get all of these pioneer sort of posters, where it is about just going off into the Wilderness and taming the untamed.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> This is what I mean this is what I mean. Right? Eventually that’s going to come back at you.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I think this is what Kubrick was reflecting in the Shining. You can be the pioneer, you can be the imperialist, you can be the adventurer, you can be the conqueror. Fine! That’s one thing.</p>
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<p>But eventually all the stuff that you’ve conquered, and all the stuff you’ve dominated, and all the stuff literally you built the hotel over the Indian burial ground, all of that is eventually going to come back in some way. And I think even White people, I don’t think this is something that comes from jewish malevolence, or whatever.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, when you get the Faustian spirit, when it comes to actually going around the world, and claiming ownership over land and all of this, then what you look at with a lot of the Left the critical race stuff, it is a sort of demonization of that spirit.</p>
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<p>So what they are talking about with Whiteness, a lot of the time they will then tie it to capitalism, stealing resources from places, and whatnot. What they’re actually doing is demonizing the Faustian spirit. They’re actually looking critically at it. And the reason why I was saying it’s like an intangible thing and it seems like mumbo jumbo, it’s because it doesn’t exist as a kind of policy, or a constitutional statement somewhere. This is why the Whiteness stuff is kind of amorphous. But I think that’s what they’re getting at. I think they’re looking at this kind of expansive nature of Western civilization, and then kind of saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“It’s time to atone for all of this stuff.”</span></h3>
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<p>Which leaves you thinking:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, okay, we either double down, or we grovel on the ground in guilt!”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s a funny one.</p>
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<p>But what I was going to get at was that what they were touching on was that the National Parks were established, and the National Parks, in their view, were a sneaky way to get policies passed which dispossessed to the Native Americans because they didn’t have sort of formal legislation which tied them to the land. It was just taken for granted that they belonged there, and that was their spiritually, their place in the world. So the National Parks were established and they had in the small print it was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“The land will now be protected in this pristine way. It will not be touched by man anymore.”</span></h3>
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<p>And with that they could then begin to clear the Indians because all of a sudden the land belonged to the American government, seemingly for benign reasons. And you know, they did actually establish all of these amazing parks and whatnot.</p>
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<p>But there was a downside to it as well. And before everybody starts voting this down and tying this arc back to something which matters to us. And it’s that the native people of Britain don’t have a piece of legislation which binds them to the land like this.</p>
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<p>And so you end up in a similar situation to the Indians, because all of a sudden it’s just a matter of the government making policies and you just happen to be on this land, which you’ve always been here, you’ve got a spiritual connection to it. Your ancestors have been here for thousands and thousands of years. But all of a sudden, when our people are trying to defend their right to this homeland, it’s like they’re overpowered by all of this policy and all of this legislation.</p>
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<p>You can see here why civic nationalism is so toxic as well, because that’s what that is. It’s just like a formal sort of treaty. It’s an appeal to legislation. And we need to find a way to say, well, actually, we’ve got something which is beyond the government, and beyond constitutions, and beyond man made written laws. And this is the problem that the Indians had and it’s a similar problem to what we have as well.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, that is an interesting way to look at it. To get back to that clip from Shrill because I think it ties in with the article that you wrote. You said that they are in charge and the White girl doesn’t have a single institution that would back her up. I think you’re right, but I think that they know they’re in charge. I think that they know they can abuse her, they can humiliate her because they wouldn’t be doing it otherwise. I mean, the whole thing is an exercise in, well, exercising power. It’s an exercise in humiliating the person who is under your control.</p>
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<p>So I think they know that they’re in charge at this point. I think that stuff like that, where it’s not attempting to see her point of view, invalidating her point of view, invalidating the idea that she could have a valid point of view <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> that is the behaviour of a tyrant, oppressing someone, oppressing a group. So it’s kind of there. I don’t think in this context, they’re not even pretending to be underdogs anymore. The gloves are off.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:05:08]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Have you noticed this year? You can see this slipping in now because what they’ve done with <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span>, there’s a new phrase coming out and they’re calling it the “<em>global majority</em>”. So it used to be, because it’s tied with the climate stuff and having one system to rule the world. If it comes out that people in Africa and Asia are going to be facing droughts or whatnot because of the climate change, then they are suddenly being reframed as the “<em>global majority</em>”. And what this does is put like the industrial White nations automatically into a minority sort position, which it’s implying, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Minority in a bad way as well. Minority here isn’t a good thing. It’s not exotic and special in these protections. It’s a “<em>selfish</em>” minority.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s a complete inversion. So we all of our lives we’ve been told in the West that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, you are the majority in your country, we’ve got to have the Equalities Act. We’ve got to protect all of these little groups. This is just the way it is. It’s a moral thing to have all of this stuff to protect and fawn over these special minority groups.”</span></h3>
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<p>Just like what you were saying before. It is because you are the dominant culture that we have to protect all of these people and give them special dispensations.</p>
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<p>Now all of a sudden they’re pulling the rug from Europeans, from the West, and they’re now going to turn around and say, :</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, we need all of these climate change policies brought in to protect the global majority. And at the end of the day, you’re just a minority. You’re going to have to get on board! You’re going to have to go along for the greater good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>There it is again. For the greater good of the planet, for the greater good of humanity. I mean, since why does the “<em>greater good</em>” mentality not apply to what’s happening in our countries? Why can’t you say that? Let’s say, that black people just have to shut up and stop complaining for the greater good of society! For the greater good of society you’re just going to have to stop complaining all of the time, all right? Slavery and all of this? You’re just going to have to deal with it for the greater good. That’s just the way it is.</p>
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<p>And yet when it comes to a larger technocratic, holy cow, they’re going to do a switcheroo! And they’re going to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, you’re just a minority, so you’re just going to have to get on board. You’re just going to have to deal with it!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah! White people have been subdued. I don’t know if that’s quite the right word, but they’ve been browbeaten on the basis that they are the majority. They are the bullying, tough, powerful, greedy, strong, unfragile, majority. But then you can switch the lens. And so from a global perspective, they’re actually the minority! But they’re still selfish and greedy. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> The fact that they’re selfishness and greediness and so on was established on the basis of them being the majority in their countries. It doesn’t matter because from a global perspective, they’re a minority. But those negative attributes that you’ve ascribed to them and that they’ve internalized still persist in their thinking. They still think, :</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, I’m White, therefore, I’m privileged, therefore, I’m powerful, therefore, &#8230; But actually there are so many other people in the world, much more than White people, who are oppressed, who are fragile, who are vulnerable. And so I’m a selfish minority, I’m a destructive minority, who is ruining it for everyone else!”</span></h3>
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<p>So this is the switcheroo that has happened.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s to do with living standards. If you want to have the same living standards in the West that we had in the 1990s, 1880s, or whatever, then you’re just a minority. You can’t expect that just to continue on in that degree of luxury forever. You’re just a minority. Think about the global majority. Think about the greater good, the greater good of the planet! If we can then divide up your give out your wealth as to other people! People will say it’s cringe to call it “<em>communism</em>”. It kind of is. It kind of is.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I don’t think that we should be self conscious about this. In a sense that there are communistic elements to what is going on. And I don’t think that we should shy away from that for the sake of being called cringe or whatever.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:10:20]</strong></span></p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Communism was also purely technocratic. And they developed a solution to a problem, but the solution was corrupt. Chernobyl is a perfect example. I remember I was attacked because I said the rollout of the vaccine could be our version of Chernobyl. But I love that HBO series that came out about three years ago. And it’s just beautifully done. A lot of those actors pop up in that <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span>..</p>
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<p>But when you actually have a look at what happened with Chernobyl, when you get to the end of it, it’s a disaster. And within the Soviet Union, they have this court, they actually say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, okay, what went wrong, really?”</h3>
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<p>And what caused it, was that they were using rods, &#8230; It’s been a few years. There’s a special kind of rod that they put in which helps cool the reactor. And further down the bureaucracy, they realized that these rods were really, really expensive. So there was a few of them got the proper rods, decent ones, but then they began cutting corners and they ordered cheaper ones in, because they were themselves under like a sort of incentive structure to get costs down on everything.</p>
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<p>And so they ended up getting these cheapy rods. But the actual sort of performance of the reactor wasn’t changed to calm it down a little bit because now the coolant system wasn’t as efficient as it was on paper.</p>
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<p>And so what you have is a kind of technocratic fuck up. But where in the system does the problem lie? And you end up with a complete catastrophe through institutional corruption, cutting corners. And sort of not wanting to rock the boat, being scared to speak out and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Hang on a minute, this could be a disaster!”</h3>
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<p>Because that would be your career on the line. All of this, all of this kind of stuff. And the vaccine thing was kind of similar. It’s a similar system. I don’t know, I have went on a bit of a tangent their, but that’s kind of like how we got there.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. Well, this is the thing about if you’re going to place the faith in technocracy, that this is the danger, that eventually and you hear about this happening in the Soviet Union as well, where they would come up with some system and again, it was all for the greater good. They’d come up with some system, they’d think it was perfect, and then it would backfire in some way, and the bureaucracy would not be able to respond in time. Or there would be an imperative not to respond because that would be raising the alarm, putting your head about the parapet, contradicting your superior, and thus screwing things up. So you would get the blame for it or you would get punished for ruining it for everyone else.</p>
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<p>So in other words, the bureaucracy, or the technocracy was primed to not respond to reality, but to really dwell in a fictitious version that was optimal for it’s desires. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I mean, it’s just awful. So if you submit to a technocracy, this is what you’re potentially submitting to. There has to be this commitment to reality.</p>
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<p>And what we’ve seen so far with the technocracy that we’re living under and this is why everyone should be very skeptical about it, is that it is not married to reality. I mean, whether it’s about men and women, race, Covid, the vaccine, climate change.</p>
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<p>I remember in 2006, 7, people sounding the alarm on the climate change thing. And it’s been going on for a very long time. Now whatever is going on with the climate, and I actually don’t see anything happening with the climate, except for the fact that winters, I think, were colder when I was a child. Big deal! Whatever is going on with the climate, I don’t believe what they are saying! I don’t believe what they’re claiming!</p>
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<p>Because they were wrong about everything else. They were wrong about LGBT! They were wrong about race, they were wrong about men and women. They’ve been wrong about everything, virtually, everything! I mean, the only thing I could probably agree with them on is pollution. We don’t want pollution. We don’t want to be pissing up the environment. That’s only sane. But really on everything else.</p>
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<p>They are not only dishonest, they’re nuts! And I don’t say that to let them off the hook in any way. They’re deranged. They’re completely ideological. And so it just seems like we’re primed here for disaster, because they don’t care about reality.</p>
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<p>A good example of this coming up just before you intervene, the electric car thing. Well, the batteries are expensive to produce. And also there’s now the energy shortage. So I mean, what are you going to do? People aren’t going to be able to fucking drive! So anyway, go on.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I mean the thing this is what people say with the cars. And they’re saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, you can’t do that. There’s not enough power in the grid to charge!”</h3>
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<p>Like I don’t know how many cars are in this country, like 15 or 20 million cars. There’s no way you can charge that many cars each night. So each night the the grid would have to charge 20 million, like super sized lithium car batteries. And people say this is why it can’t happen. It just can’t happen because the power grid just couldn’t handle the load.</p>
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<p>But the thing is but yeah, you just won’t drive! You just won’t be driving a car. That’s what that tells you. Don’t think they’re going to step back from that and think:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh, no! We’re going to have to get all the diesel, we’re going to have to get all of the gas pipelines in. We’re going to have to we’re going to have to get normal car engines back again, because we just got, &#8230;”</h3>
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<p>No, that’s not what’s on the cards. What’s on the cards is that you’ve got two cars per street, and everybody just gets a bus and everybody shares.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Woes:</strong> It’s interesting here because this is where the two agendas seem to match up with Ukraine, and the neocon agenda there, but also the technocratic agenda with Nord Stream. And I realized that Nord Stream there are also neocon reasons for doing that. But it really also speeds things up for the technocrats.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, I think what caught me off guard was at first thinking, like I mentioned at the start, at first thinking, well, maybe our side of this did kind of overreact. And at the end of the day, countries have got geopolitical interests and they need sometimes, &#8230; Bill Gates doesn’t have tanks. The technocrats don’t have a standing army. At the end of the day, if you can put an army in the field and you can fire missiles, it does matter. It does really matter.</p>
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<p>And so yeah, there was a bit of a kind of moment there. It was away only, yeah, okay, so maybe there is two different forces. But then it didn’t take long and actually we’re just heading in the same direction that we were anyway. In fact, now we’re heading there faster.</p>
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<p>And it was almost like in my case, sort of underestimating just how determined they were to bring in this surveillance grid. The big mystery is like how convenient all this was. I tend to agree with AA here. I think you’re talking about two different kind of clubs which overlap but it still gets confusing, when you go all the way up to the top of the money power. But yeah, I kind of agree with AA on all that.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, it is confusing. But either way we’re still heading for the same place and we’re not heading for it faster, as you said. So that kind of, &#8230; Again, I think that people should be very careful about claiming that the Social Credit Score isn’t coming, the CBDCs aren’t coming and so on, because it really seems like they are. I mean, it’s going to happen in dribs and drabs. Fits and starts, or whatever the phrase is, but I don’t see them backing down on this.</p>
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<p>Why would they? I mean, as an elite, CBDCs are in their interests. It doesn’t matter what kind of elite they are! The Social Credit Score is absolutely in their interest. If you’re a totalitarian elite, if you want control over the population, then that’s useful to you don’t need to be ideologically persuaded of it. It just is self evidently useful to you.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:20:13]</strong></span></p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It matters as well because people say that this is a distraction from demographics, from racial politics, from the JQ, from the usual sort of nationalist talking points. And I understand why as well. Because I get it.</p>
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<p>But the problem is this system really does appear to be coming. If it comes in, and remember when I was talking about the map with all of the dots on it before? If it comes in, then your ideology, and your aims, and your political, that doesn’t matter. That’s never ever going to be allowed! It will be neutralized before it even gets off the ground.</p>
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<p>So it’s saying whatever you want, whatever your vision is, whatever your ideal society is, will never get anywhere! I mean, if you look at the state of things now before it even comes in, if you look at what’s been revealed, the collusion between the American Deep State and Twitter, where they’re just outright flouting and they don’t care. The mainstream media just doesn’t care. The idea that, I don’t know, the plan is to sort of red-pill normies and have this mass awakening with so many people able to vote, they’ll vote in like some kind of Neo-National Socialist party or something like that.</p>
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<p>This assumes that you’re living in a liberal system which will allow you to do that, whereas they’re just not, they don’t care! As I said earlier, we’re not living in a liberal democracy of any of the terms, we’re not living in a liberal democracy, we’re already in a technocracy! And they will break their own rules to shut you down. People don’t like hearing this. They will just drag you off in the middle of the night at the end of the day. And I don’t see this heroism of just willingly throwing yourself into the meat grinder.</p>
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<p>But the problem is that people say, well when you talk about this, you talk about Social Credit system coming in, you talk about being monitored and all of that, then this is a distraction from the kind of the populist revolution which is coming. We shouldn’t be talking about this. We should be focusing on winning the political election, getting people and all of this. But you can’t do it under the system they’re bringing in, whatever it is, even if you’re a far Leftist or whatever, there will be a certain set of guide lines and a certain set of protocols written into the grid, written into the system, which will be monitoring everybody all of the time.</p>
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<p>And if you are planning on running a Right-wing party, far-Right party, nationalist party, which has all of these from the position of the centre, all of these really edgy ideas, they’re just going to cut you off! It’ll just be like pulling a plug. There’s no way around this problem, this fundamental problem. Whatever it is that you want to see happen, it depends whether or not this system is going to let you do it.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. I think it’s important to say, I understand why people don’t like hearing this because it’s kind of like a meditation on despair and defeatism. It’s very negative. It’s depressing. I get it! I’m fucking depressed about it as well. But we’re trying to face the reality so that it doesn’t trip us up later on.</p>
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<p>The reason people don’t like hearing this stuff is, well, they think, well, what is the solution then? What should we do? And the answer is, I don’t know. And this is why I keep coming back, to just try to better your own position, as an individual and as a family, and so on. That’s the best advice that I can give. And I know it’s not great, but I’m sorry, right now there’s nothing else I can think to say.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:24:45]</strong></span></p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, first of all, you have to acknowledge the problem. Once you’ve actually acknowledged the problem and what we’re facing, then you can say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Okay, I need to make sure that I’m somewhat independent.”</h3>
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<p>Even a little thing like having a big stash of cash, because the machines can go out at any time, having basic things. They’re already talking about having blackouts and stuff. It’s related, but if you look at in Europe, they’re all about just rolling blackouts for a long time. Have you got gas canisters, like a little camping stove with five or six tins of gas? Because it’s going to help.</p>
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<p>So you begin with the most basic things. But this is where we’re going. And in, in the the long term, it’s grim. It’s grim. I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I’ve been screaming out this thing for years.</p>
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<p>And the reason they’re doing that is because they can’t afford the infrastructure. They can’t afford to have 5G towers everywhere. They can’t afford all of the solar panels, and all of the infrastructure for what is coming. They can’t afford that. And it’s kind of like they want them to have it.</p>
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<p>They want it to be everywhere because it gets back to the sort of purely technocratic, sort of obsessive mindset where it has to be everywhere. African countries, places in Asia, they can’t really afford that stuff. So they can’t have a sort of black part on the grid. They can’t have something which isn’t properly connected. So we’re going to have to pay for that. They’ve got like 140 trillion war chest for this, and that’s like the richest people on earth. They’ve gone all in on this.</p>
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<p>As you said in America then, the idea was that if you work hard, you can make a life and you have a family easily, you have a house in suburbia, all the rest of it. And all of that is seemingly now being taken away, or evaporating. This is depressing.</p>
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<p>But that brings me back to the Shrill thing, because while that’s happening, they’re implementing this new way, this new ideology. In the Shrill clip. I don’t know if it’s clear, but as far as I know, the manly woman, the masculine woman, the actress is transgender, at least she says she is! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> And probably a lesbian!</p>
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<p>So I think that is an interracial lesbian relationship between those two people. Then the White girl comes in and sort of upsets all of that with her heteronormative White privilege. And they reject it and ejects the foreign element, as it were, which is traditional. Which is traditional White society. That’s what’s going on there.</p>
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<p>And just to finish off the point, it’s joyless. This is the point that we’re making in the article. There is no happiness to this. This ideology is not one that brings happiness, or fulfillment. It has its own momentum. It sort of justifies itself. But it doesn’t make the people who follow it any happier or more fulfilled. That’s the big difference.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s interesting as well when you see something like that andor that I was talking about it’s like a cringe sort of Star Wars thing. It is politically correct. Some of the positions that black men are in are kind of absurd, but whatever, it isn’t the kind of Last Jedi big sort of global hormone fest. And it’s almost as if there’s a latest transition has happened where you’ve gone from the kind of big gear walk kind of bullshit which is poorly written and just kind of pisses everybody off to this kind of Superrealist hard, gritty, just raw representation of totalitarianism. That’s an interesting thing, the way that’s happened, because I think it’s something similar. It’s kind of like what we’re looking at in the West. One of the video that I never got made this year for one reason or another was Ten Little Signals in Blair Runner 2049 of the Great Reset. If you look at Blade Runner 2049, which is a kind of favourite in distance rate circles, it’s surprising how much is in that. I mean, you open the scene and you’ve got the book Farm. He also lives in a pod and his girlfriend is a hologram and he is himself like a replicant. That’s not a robot, it’s just a genetically modified human. In the law as well, it’s mentioned that they had this kind of great sort of cyber crash where all of their documents, all of their knowledge, was lost. So when they go through the archives, they have gone back to having physical copies of everything because when you store everything in digital space, there’s a chance that everything will just get wiped out in one goal. Even just that is an interesting thing as they head toward I bought a new computer recently and the laptop just sort of it cost me an arm leg, but I need it for what I do. And I kind of put discs into anything. There’s no disks. I mean, up here I’ve got a nice computer, I’ve got a little laptop, there’s a backup and I actually can’t just put a disk into anything anymore. Which is to say you can’t own anything in the real world because what they want you to do is just download everything. It’ll never exist in physical space. I mean, thankfully, I’ve got a kind of nice DVD collection which I’ve had for ages. It would be a good time to just buy a DVD player because the time will come when you just can’t play them anymore and everything will be online, everything will be digital. And literally it’s a cliche, but you just own nothing. And it’s funny, like your new computer. You’ll spend a lot of money on a new computer and you can’t put a physical disk into it anymore. That’s done. What you have to do instead is get a subscription on some streaming service or whatever. If you play games and then you just download it, but you’ll not own anything physical.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, you can actually get a USB disk drive and connect it to the computer. It’s a separate thing that runs off the computer. And that’s what I was using. But with my old computer, I got two of these things and they stopped working after six months, each of them. So I just got a new one and it stopped.z Working after six months. It was fucking ridiculous. I have no idea what was wrong. I’ll try it with the new computer after millenniyule over because it’s my only way to watch all the programs that I love. They’re not available on streaming. It’s not going to happen.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. Again, it’s a very depressing topic because there’s no way to sugarcoat it. I mean, it just is bad, it’s really bad. And I think this is becoming a tangible thing for people now in a way that it wasn’t five years ago. They’re now showing up in villages, towns, and that is predictable result not only of the quantities of people coming into the country, but also of the policies of distributing them. And I know that just recently the Tories announced this as a formal intention to forgotten how they voiced it, but it was to distribute them away from the inner city because stereotypically, historically they’ve been in the inner cities and that’s why people have fled the inner cities. So now the government wants to put them in small villages I’ve got to be really careful not to Fed post, but I don’t like this at all. I just find this absolutely outrageous. Because you’ll have an effect, it will have a very tangible effect on a village that it simply wouldn’t have on some fucking slum inner city that’s already been completely demographically replaced anyway.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, what you’d get would be that one ethnic group would have this particular territory if they would even bother, but they would do this on that particular territory and then there will be another it goes on. Maybe the Indians and the Muslims would have Lentils or whatever. You can imagine how it would go. And eventually they’re going to start and think, well, I want what they’ve got because the there exists. So instead of having in the glory days as of World War II, I can imagine you’d get thieves. But what you’re talking about, there would be individuals, or a criminal network within your own group who could be found and persecuted and that’s one thing. It’s totally different if you try and do that and you’re talking about groups who are just fundamentally different groups from the off, because then you’re not even talking about if you try to shame somebody from down the road, was caught stealing Barry’s turnips, then you can at least shame him as a thief. Because the context that that can happen in is that he still belongs to that group. He has betrayed the collective effort. He’s betrayed the one group and the morality and the well being of everybody by his fevery. You can’t do that if you’ve got multiple different groups because there’s no universalizing morality or ethic to bind everybody together in the first place. So all you’re doing is taking from the outgroup and this is multiculturalism defined and they call it a strength.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I mean, what would happen at first is that the flights would definitely be trying to live out the dream of, oh, this will be great, this will bind us all together. This will bind the different groups together because we’re now in a collective effort. And they’d quickly find that actually no, it’s you are sharing your resources, you are organizing, you are helping whatever the Chinese community and you’re giving them your seeds to help grow potatoes or whatever and they’re giving nothing back because why would they? And I think Whites will quickly learn this lesson. I remember seeing the height of the migrant crisis. There was a clip going around of some White guy, the well meaning young White guy, trying to distribute stuff to a crowd of refugees and they just started stealing. They just started taking tearing out of his hand. I think he had a bag and he was trying to give the bag one thing to each person and they basically just ripped the bag apart. And it wasn’t even something like they’re starving. How can you judge them for doing them? They’re starving people. It was entirely their behaviour. It was not cohesive, it was not unified, it was not civic engagement or whatever it was, just take the fight. He’s here with some resources. Let’s get them and that’s it. And then the infamous thing about the clip is that the young White guy eventually gives up and he actually puts his hands up in the air and just walks away. It’s like that moment of realizing, oh, these people are just not like my people.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> You can’t if you go and sit with Gary and he’s in Pitbull, you can say whatever you want there. I’m happy with that. The people that I go to normally is it is kind of half and half. You can see it quite a bit. And it’s the difference is if you got out of hand, they would say, watch what you’re doing. What’s what? You’re seeing me getting into trouble. But fundamentally, they’re on your side. The difference with Fat Lefty Trope was that she was just from the off. It was a political and ideological thing. The other is like, oh, steady on me. We don’t want to get into trouble, you know what I mean? And then you’d have to be pretty explicit, you know what I mean? Everybody knows everybody’s kind of you find ways, like the way we live, where everybody’s going to police their language and everybody even and this is the real world as well, everybody kind of gets it. And, you know, when people came to get it and you don’t purely spiral in the real world, you kind of accept the speech codes. You kind of accept that we can look at somebody and you kind of know that you’re on board with each other and you get it. And that the fellow who worked at that pub where that Lefty cow was. So I’ve been there before. About a year ago I was in there and there was a fellow working there at that time and he was about 40 and he was a bit of a wide boy. He was from the south, but he’d been all over the place, and he was like a total conspiracy theorist. You could say anything to him. He was all in for it. He was great. I don’t know, he was like low key racist. He got it. No Jwink. Wink. And he was kind of probably watching, I don’t know, like Alex Jones maybe, but he definitely wasn’t on the plantation. And you’ve got a lot to go with there. You’re not going to get, like, ideological purity that just exists on Telegram. The only place you get that is Telegram and a couple of podcasts. It doesn’t exist in the real world. And people are just thinking, I’m mad.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> All right. I can’t think of anything to say in response to that. So let’s go to another article. Are you there?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, I was just muted. I’ve gotten the other one up, and it’s called the Digital Identity Game Show you are the Star, which it kind of sunk without trace, but I can’t really remember anymore. I didn’t read it beforehand, but what I was getting into is what I’ve touched on before, because we’ve been speaking about the kind of surveillance grid and everything and the way that it functions. And what I think is interesting when you see it in real world, you’re interfacing with technology so much these days, and it’s its just how much everything has been gamified, we call it. If you think of the Social Credit system, what in the end is a Social Credit system, and a Social Credit system which is emerging before us. What it is, is an incentive structure. And there’s something about the digital realm in all aspects of it, even from a primitive computer game up to the YouTube algorithm, to Twitter, to everything, it has these built in incentives to keep you invested. Now, that might be I mean, I don’t play video games anymore. The last video game that I played was Skyrim. And so what happens is you set off on a quest, and the incentive is you get through the cave and you get this new sword or this new axe, or you get this new shout, this new special power. So you’ll go through all of that in order, and what it’s about is unlocking something, unlocking a new thing, a new zone, and a new area, which you then go into, which eventually there’ll be something at the end of it, and you can unlock that as well. Even on an iPhone, it’s all about unlocking. It’s all about gaining access. This seems to me to be a sort of metaphysic which pervades everything about the digital world. Whether it’s gaining access to your iPhone, whether it’s about playing a video game, whether it’s about the YouTube or Twitter or whatever. All of it is about sort of its all about gaining access and then going on to the next level. All it takes for to turn that into a Social Credit system is to bring it into the way you actually behave. And so then it’s a matter of what is your politics. And it gets me back to the grid before with the sort of vaccinated people and whatnot we literally had it in the Corvette. You can see the imprint of the digital kind of logic, the ghost of the digital, just in this idea. Well, if you’re vaccinated, you can go out and you can do these things. If you’re not, then you can’t you stay in. So it’s like at a primordial level in the digital what would you call it? The digital landscape is this idea of locking and unlocking and then moving on and proceeding to what in a video game would be the next level. And so it’s in everything. It’s with your iPhone. It’s an inner Social Credit system. It needs to have rules to make it function. And it’s funny to me that you have all of these kind of incentive structures. Then when you look at the global carbon reduction thing, it’s as if it’s been tailormade. You know how people say covert was invented for the vaccine or not? The other way around, it seems to be that the climate change sort of emergency was invented for the Social Credit system. The Social Credit system wasn’t invented for then forever. You can have gain access to your fridge and you will be monitored. Your behaviour will be monitored, everything will be monitored. And it just interests me that it’s the logic of the Gamify system, which it begins with a video game, but eventually it’s like it’s imposing itself on the real world. Have you ever seen Tron Legacy? The second Tron movie.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s actually good. The Daft Punk soundtrack is great, but when you look at the story and the law and it was another video that I never got made last year. And you can trace it all the way back to BlackRock. BlackRock’s sort of supercomputer was a way of gaming the market because it would gather so much data and so much information that it was kind of able to predict the future. Every event everywhere would be processed. And so what they were doing was reducing the risk on investments. Maybe have been an avalanche. It was called Aladdin. Maybe that being like an avalanche somewhere. And then that was going to affect the weather, or the weather would affect the crops in this particular place, or the water supply was poisoned here and that would affect it just went on and on. They were all able to compute that. And in Toronto, it’s kind of interesting. We’re talking all about the technocracy and everything. And Jeff Bridges in Tron one, he’s like this idealistic boomer and he creates a digital world. At first I thought it was kind of ridiculous because it was before the internet, it really was just a video game, but it doesn’t really. Matter. The point of it is that he’s created a digital world. And by the time you get a tron too, he’s been stuck on the grid for I think it’s like 25 years or something. And he’s an old man. He’s a recluse. But what he’s done what he did was create a digital version of himself, which he called Clue. Looks pretty bad on the CGI now, but whatever. So the idea would be that Clue, he was programmed to create the perfect system, and the actual, real Jeff Bridges gave him access to all philosophy, all books and all of this thing. And what you’ve got is this juxtaposition where Jeff Bridges is like the quintessential boomer is there, and he has this glorious vision of the future. We’re going to unlock all of the knowledge. We’re going to all read Dostoyevsky, and we’re going to then study how Picasso, like, what made his painting so great. It’s going to be great, man. There’s not going to be any more work. We’re going to book a system. We’ll create our own system, and it’s going to be perfect. And I’m going to create an algorithm called Clue, and it will be perfect. He will create the perfect system. And what actually happens is that Clue creates an absolute dystopia, absolute nightmare of a place. And the reason he does it Klaus Schwab. Yeah, it’s Klaus Schwab. What happens is that organically, there’s these what do they call them? There’s a kind of race appears organically. They’re all White and blonde as well, and they’re kind of like elves, and they’re more sort of mystical and religious. I forgot what they’re called now, but basically there’s a girl in it. She was in this beautiful Eastern European woman, but I forgot what they’re called. Now, I’m sure somebody in the Chat has them, but this particular group of people are there, but they are an anomaly they’re not predicted for. And the problem that you’ve got is, how do you define perfect? Because in a Right-wing, where if you think of somebody like CS Lewis or Tolkien or these kinds of people, they would see that as being a thing of wonder, because they were a higher being, which were within the technological grid, but they were spiritual. And so organically, the grid had created spiritual beings. But the problem is that Clue couldn’t actually comprehend that that was to him just something gone wrong, and he genocided them all, and there was only the pretty girl left. So again, you get this conflict between idealism and utilitarianism. Clue was just a purely utilitarian algorithm. It’s kind of like the tragedy of the entire arc of Jeff Bridges boomer. Idealism is that he created this program. He created this computerized digital way of creating utopia, but it turned into hell and wiped out everything of value. And it’s interesting to me when you look at something that’s sort of a PR bullshit of the World Economic Forum, where you’ve got all of these kind of xylophone is playing, and it’s like it’s Happy ever after tomorrow. And everybody thinks it looks horrific, everybody scares shitless of it. But you know, that that is a vision of utopia. It is a vision of utopia. The problem is, it’s a vision of utopia from late 1972.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> This is a concept that interests me. I remember reading this, or I heard you saying it. I think it was on the it was it was on one of the interviews he did this year. And I heard you saying this, and I wanted to ask you about this. I’m glad it’s come up. Why the Great Reset? When I first heard about it, and you were Clyde, and he’s a very old man, but the Great Reset seemed new to me. My first thought wasn’t, oh, that sounds old hat, or that sounds obsolete. So I’m interested in why you think it is. Why does it belong to the 70s, not the earlier?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Because what it hawks back to is, well, basically it’s retro futurism. So if you go back, there was a promise inherent within technology. If you look at the does actually die away a little bit in the 70s, but from an earlier era, there was a promise of technology, that technology would be a liberating thing. Technology would mean you wouldn’t have and I don’t just mean sort of doing the job at work more efficiently. I mean what the people like Arun Bastani and Ashaqar, what they call what is it, like future communists something or other fully automated space communism. And it’s where man will be liberated from labour. And in the future, what you see if you go back and you look at these graphics from the everything is taken care of, everything. Technology is solving all of the issues. Technology is going to bring about this great utopia. In the future, things will be better. It’s a quintessential, progressive, Left-wing vision of the world. Technology will make things better, and you shouldn’t be scared of it. And in fact, nobody it’s pure idealism of that era. And you can see what happened long ago, actually, in the kind of changed, and you begin to get a cynicism set in with technology. You begin to see movies like RoboCop or Blade Runner or Terminator. You begin to see pictures of technology gone wrong and all of this kind of thing. When we get to the digital age, you get a different problem again, because the technology has had a certain effect, but it’s an atomizing one, and it’s one where people are lonely. The social conditions have changed. So the way you can think of it is that nobody now thinks of themselves as living inside of some kind of giant sort of skyscraper with a helipod and with like, where you walk in. Now, if you imagine you walk into your house and you say, okay, lights on, television on. I want to have this thing made in the microwave. People in the 60s, they thought that was a good thing. They thought that was something positive. They thought that was a great vision of the future, mainly through a reduction of labour. You can see it’s a proper Left-wing, kind of Marxist even way of thinking where happiness is, when you just reduce the amount of labour involved in something. And in actual fact, where we are now, when you see the World Economic Forum and they come out with these things about how well, you’ll just talk to your fridge, and your fridge will monitor how many calories you’ve had today and how far your phone will monitor how far you’ve walked. And it will be optimized for your health. And everybody will think it’s wonderful. And it’s kind of like this vision that they had decades ago and never come to pass. And it’s just now, it’s like the revenge of it. It’s like, well, we’re going to do it. We’re still going to do this. All vision, this old idealism of the techno utopia from the 1960s, the 1950s even, we’re still going to fall now. We’re going to force it onto everybody. Even though in reality, if you talk to people, what, like in the here and now and in the 2020s, they’re not interested in it. They don’t want to know. What do they want? They want to have organic. They want to have families. They want to have log burning fires in their sitting room. They want to have gardens. They want to have meaning in their lives. And so what’s happened is that since that time, the wishes and the will of people has changed. They want to have something which gives them meaning in an organic real life again, which has been taken away from them by this sort of saturation of technology, and they want to go back. Nobody thinks of themselves as a 75 year old sitting in a pod, like watching YouTube videos or TikTok and then getting their latest vaccine update. People want to think of themselves as living in a comfortable home with the grandkids running through the door as they sit by a log fire. This is something too deeply ingrained in humans, and it runs direct. So this is what people want. And then you’ve got what the elites want and the technocrats want, and the two things are diametrically opposed to each other. They can’t function together. So what they’re going to do instead is just invent this colossal pyramid of lies to justify this archaic 50 year old vision and then Polish it up and tell you that this is their vision of the future.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yes, I think that people are excited by the idea of having everything self sufficient, like your solar panels, the replicator from Star Trek and that kind of thing. Growing your own but more realistically, growing your own food, a farmhouse, the kids. That is an eternal thing. And I think that you’re right that there was a mid century obsession with technology, the white heat, the atomic age and yeah, I guess you could say that peaked in the probably the 60s, actually, and thereafter was people were ever more skeptical about technology. But the elites held on to that notion because it would empower them, it would put them at this absolute centre of people’s lives. I think centralization is a concept that is very appealing to technocrats, to control freaks, totalitarians, but is really annoying to everyone else. I mean, one of the things that’s said now about the postwar Britain, the welfare seed, is that it was too centralized and it was too bureaucratic, it was too distant from ordinary people. I don’t know, the Blair and all that in New Labor, they tried to reduce that somewhat by introducing consumer choice. I don’t know how much that was ever actually a legal thing. I don’t know how much they actually managed it. I doubt it, to be honest. The NHS now just seems to be a disaster. But either way, it is something that people have had to pay lip service to, like Tony Blair and the BBC has also I remember they introduced something called Producer Choice in the late 80s because they didn’t like the idea of doing everything in house anymore. It seems to be a general thing. As technology has advanced, it has become more portable, more modular, so you don’t need a huge system anymore to plug the device into so that it will work at all. It can work independently. But of course the thing where this changes is the smartphone. Because the smartphone is necessarily a very centralized device. It cannot work without calling the mothership for everything, absolutely everything, and it’s different motherships. It’s like the Uber mainframe, the Google server, whatever, the BBC website and whatever it is. But it’s a multitude of central point that it’s consulting the smartphone on its own is almost useless. I guess on its own it could do calculator stuff, or a calendar. Even the calendar now could be centralized. And then this also ties into the whole idea of the internet, the Wild West Democratization in the early 2000s, well, throughout the then it all stops around about 2010, 2015, and we go in this sharp turn towards centralisation and power consolidation and streamlining. So technology for a long time was heading in the direction that I think a lot of people find very amenable and pleasing. But it but it then ironically, long after they’d fallen out of their love with it in the 80s, but 20 years, 25 years after all of that, or 30 years after all that, it then did go in that evil direction. So you then did get Skynet, or obviously equivalents of Skynet. Yeah, but for a while it was actually something it was heading in a direction I think people liked.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s like you always end up running into the Clue problem. So whether it’s Skynet or Clue or in something like RoboCop, it’s like the oligarchy who are going to control it and privatize it and use it for their own ends and lie about the science and all of these things. It’s not new. The problems that we’re facing and which is coming down are not really new at all. But it’s just they’ve been predicted.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> But now you’ve got evil people in real life making it real.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> They’re actually doing it, actually implementing all of this stuff. And there’s a thing to address here which I think is interesting and I picked up on this as well. And in people in our circles, they want to push the gaq because it’s like this is the forbidden fruit. And they are right. You just look at the Kanye West thing and the Elon Musk thing and everything that’s been going on just recently. But the post war Meta narrative was based on the sort of demonization of White interests, of White people stepping off the plantation. And all of this comes back down to the nexus of the Holocaust, the Spectre of it hanging over like White people, European people, and everything has been built, morally speaking, the entire thing has been built on that. So they get the jewish people designist sort of Deep State America. They get a special dispensation which they absolutely abuse at every turn. So they will constantly attack White people on the basis of race. But then when somebody, the telescope is pointed back in their direction, they completely freak out and everybody sees the hypocrisy. It pisses everybody off. And to be honest, at this stage of the internet, like most people know as well, it isn’t the forbidden fruit that it was seven years ago, just through the mnematic nature of the internet. But nevertheless, still there’s kind of something cringe and boomerang about the obsession with Bill Gates or Klaus Schwab because I get it that certain sort of sections of our thing will say, well, it’s okay to talk about that because it won’t be banned. And they’re right about that. By the way, when I did the video about the Circle kind of thing, everybody was describing that to being some kind of Klaus Schwab scheme or conspiracy. I don’t know if that is. It is interesting that immigration has actually gone up in this particular time past when I thought it was even possible. But I do get it. It’s easy to just ascribe everything which is going wrong to that group because they don’t have the magical protective shield that the other group does. But what you’ll notice is that they actually don’t care. They don’t care what you say about them. They don’t care. You can say that Bill Gates is a psychotic maniac all day long on Twitter and he’s still going to buy up more land. He’s still going to subvert some other NGO about vaccine safety. He’s still going to keep pushing this stuff. And this is what I’ve said all along about the technocrates, that they really don’t care what you think of them. And this is different because in the past, even in the migrant crisis, there was kind of lip service, that there was a hidden hand. If we just kind of call that out, if we just pull the curtain down, then everybody will kind of get it and it all makes sense to the norms. But what happens when you’re dealing with an elite, which is increasingly becoming the case that they say, we are doing this? We know, you know, we are doing this, but we’re still going to do it. We’re not hiding what we’re doing. We create these cringe PR videos to tell you what we’re doing. We’re not hiding it. This is the agenda and we’re saving the world from climate change. We’re doing it in the interests of public health. We’re not hiding behind the curtain. We are absolutely open about it.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I think this is partly why people who are into the JQ think that this stuff is fake, because it is so open, there’s almost nothing to discover. It’s almost amazing that normes don’t see it, or they just don’t. I think they see it, they just don’t see the gravity of it. But then, as I say, there are people who are into the JQ who I think covers it because it’s kind of jealously, because it’s something they’ve discovered, it’s something they have worked out. So it doesn’t make sense to them that the technocrats are just being completely out in the open about it, about what they’re doing. It doesn’t really map on it. It’s a very different thing with the JQ. The crime is noticing. It’s not like that with the Technocrats. It’s completely different. They want you to notice. They say it themselves, black and white. They’re proud of it, they’re completely blasphemy about it. They feel that they’re changing the world and it’s righteous that they feel that they are completely justified in doing this. I mean, there are other reasons why.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> There’s no great secrets to uncover. You can’t proselytize, you can’t sort of run around with your revealed truth, which will shatter the epistemology of the average centre rate guy, because they’re just right over there telling you what they’re doing. But at the same time, that other group, it still has a hell of a lot of power and influence. It’s arguably still the most dominant group. Yet we do have this other thing that’s happening.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, exactly. I guess that would be a good segue to talk about the Kanye West thing and your perspective on Elon Musk and the ADL hop take on that.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Can I just dip in the toilet?</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, good idea. I’ll play the NST thing that I meant to play at the beginning. Here we go. It’s a difficult thing to do, actually, to make people aware of all of the information that they could be aware of to do with millennial. For example, the NFT people might not know that there is NFT this year. There was an NFT last year, and I thought, okay, this could become a regular thing, because at that time, NFT stood just the kind of thing, and they were selling for a lot of money. So I thought it’s worth putting in all that’s worked into trying to make it something pleasant and nice, because I do like the idea that there’s this commemoration. There’s this thing that somebody can own, and it is the NFC of millennial that year, and there’s only one of them. This sort of undulating stained glass animation similar to last year, and it works the same way. You can hover the mouse over it, react. I just think there’s something special about it. The NFC is unique. Only one person can own it, and I think that’s nice, so that’s why I do it. All right. Hello.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Okay. Over three and a half hours. Then I don’t know how long you want to go on for.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Half hour or so. the Kanye West thing was one of those things where I kind of sit it out because I’m not in touch with American zuma. I don’t know how they think. I’m in my 40s, I’m from the northeast of England. I’m just completely disconnected from their culture. I was like, well, I’m not going to say something one way or the other one okay, let me get on with it. We’ll see what happens. There’s a virtue that you kind of learn when you get older. There’s a virtue in saying, like, I don’t know, I don’t have the answer to everything, this thing that you’ve just asked me and my answer is, I don’t know. I guess we’ll see how it goes. But one of the things one of the things that I noticed the problem because I keep an eye on pop culture and stuff. Like I was saying earlier, it’s not so much the message. And I know people will say, like, the GIMP mask and the net and it just looks ridiculous. But for all I know, that could be a big hit with American Zuma. I don’t know. But what I do know about is a little bit about something just sort of studying pop culture and whatnot is the nature of celebrity. And I think the mistakes which have been made are actually centreed around not knowing what a celebrity is or what they’re supposed to do. If you think who is because Kanye West is the biggest pop star in the world or whatever, I know he came in. I don’t know, I’ll just go with it. Let’s just assume he is the biggest or at least one of the biggest pop stars in the world, but he isn’t an ideologue, and he isn’t a great speaker. He isn’t going to give like some huge, powerful speech. Whatever the attraction, the draw, the power, there is the celebrity status itself, not what he’s saying. And what I see is that that’s been just systematically pissed away. I’ll tell you an example of if you think, okay, the celebrities of today, it’s one of those things where you don’t really get stars anymore like we did in the early years. You go back a few decades, it was easy to say, Clint Eastwood is still a star, but then he was a big star back in the day. Madonna was a big star. She was a superstar. And to dear, I’d say Tom Cruise is a quintessential star. He has that aura. So then you have to think, okay, what is a star? What is it that we think of as a star? And it’s somebody who is higher than you and is out of touch that you don’t have access to and you don’t really know what their thinking is on certain things. You don’t really know what their takes are, and whenever they kind of descend into that, they lose a bit of that star aura. Perfect example of this is Robert De Niro. So Robert De Niro. I love his movies. I’m a movie fan. I can and have with endeavour and classic movies. They spoke for hours on end about how great something like The Deer Hunter is, or you think of Good Fellas or The Godfather Part two. But one of the things about that is that when Robert De Niro began to go on Saturday Night Live, and he began to do the rules of Jimmy Conway from Good Fellows, but this time he was flagging off. Donald Trump, and this time.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> He was.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah. So what you end up with is, like, live streams on altright channels.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I thought that’s what I said. But I mean, how could you better have done it? The first sort of wave where he was just, like, stripped of all of his money, like billions of dollars just gone because the ADL clicked their fingers. That was that was a fucking outrage. That’s disgusting that they have that amount of power to be able to do that. I totally get it. So the problem is actually, how do you capitalize on that? And my approach to doing that would be not to be to piss away, like, a Twitter account of 30 million followers by kind of deliberately getting on Elon Musk deliberately putting Elon Musk in a in a horrible situation. Where he’s like, okay, you’re gone, so you you keep the Twitter account so you don’t have to rely on people’s fucking Gavin McKenna’s livestream. But it’s gone now. Okay, so he still has a lot of following. You can still do some Enigmatic sort of promote videos where you leave it hanging in the air. The fact that all of this stuff has happened, who did it, why has it done it? Why can’t he talk about these things? Why is it that you say this group has power and then they react by using that power to destroy you, but you’re not allowed to say that we’ve got the power in the first place? It’s a completely ridiculous situation. It’s an open goal. It was flunked, in my point of view. I’m not even sure what’s going on with it now.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Well, unfortunately, he’s got them to prove his point. He’s got them to prove him correct. But in order to do that, he had to lose everything. That’s the price of it. I think he’s still got 200 million. So he hasn’t lost everything, but he has lost, I believe, 800 million of his fortune. It’s a difficult thing to know. I mean, I think you’re right that he should have been more subtle about this instead of just going all and certainly saying that he admires Hitler for Fox’s sake. But some people have said he’s mentally ill. I think he actually might be. I think he this might be a guy who’s hit some kind of impasse in his life and is just destroying it, just tearing his whole life down. I don’t know, but it seems kind of like that to me. There are ways to if you’re really pissed off, if you’re really angry, there are ways to get revenge. There are ways to set the record straight. There are ways to get your perspective across without destroying everything that you’ve built.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, I’ve seen people say that this is a sort of an artistic statement. In other words, the controversy itself is a kind of art form, which I kind of get, which I don’t buy it, to be honest, but okay, I’ll take the argument on. I understand it, but I still just don’t see how going on a live stream with government guests in particular, but even then, Alex Jones is kind of the well is poisoned. I actually like Alex Jones. I can actually enjoy Alex Jones show, but I’m well aware of what that says to the normal person. Now, here again, I’ve got to be careful, because I don’t know how that goes down in middle America or with kind of sort of disaffected people under 25 in America. I’ve got no idea. I’m not in that scene. I’ve got no connection to that. So maybe they’re all just loving this and it’s this kind of big, radicalization thing that’s going on. For all I know, that could be happening right now. But what I do know is that when all you have is celebrity status and then you piss away, that the aura of celebrity itself, then you’re just another bloke running on the Internet, and that’s exactly what you need to avoid. You never need to do that. And as I explained, you can see with all of these other celebrities when they engage in politics, some of the mystique is lost forever. Now I’ve got to deal with the fact that Neil McCauley in Heat, one of my top three movies of all time, is just this tedious shit lib when he’s doing the bank heist and the sound of the rifles. And the shootout coming out or when he’s we do call Leone and he’s young and he’s looking after his family and he realizes he has to kill the local mafiat on for the great to survive and get ahead, and he contemplates killing him and he switches through it and all this great performance. Amazing. It’s like, yeah. And then all of a sudden, he’s just like this pathetic rumour crying about Donald Trump or something. It’s all shattered. And it isn’t just the politics. It’s something more than that it’s the accessibility of it. It’s the same way that to be honest, Madonna never really recovered after revealing her tits and snatch the celebrities. What is the aura of a mystique then? And it’s the same if you’re going to wear a black mask and you’re going to talk to Annette or Alex Jones. The magic and the mystique of the celebrity status is the only power you’ve got. And so what you’ve done is just destroy it because it’s just like everybody else on the internet. You’re just another online shit poster.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I agree. And I do think that it would have been better if Kanye West still had his Twitter account, for sure. 30 million people. That’s a fucking lot of people that’s your average European country I would get.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> They could have been releasing just a set of Enigmatic videos to get the message across, which didn’t just go crazy, just enough to get everybody pointed in the right direction. All of those promote videos could have ended with a question about what happened to him and his fortune and about who you can or can’t talk about. He’s got 30 million followers. Imagine what that would have been on Twitter. This is why I’m saying it’s not the message, it’s the way that they’ve gone about it. I think it’s just completely spastic. So right now there could be videos floating around deliberately provoking in millions upon millions and millions of people. The question, why is it that happened? Why is it that with a screenshot of Jonathan Greenblatt, why does he have this power? Who are these people who elected the ADL to be the monitors of free speech in America? These kinds of things all there on little two minute promote videos from a Twitter account with 30 million followers? Absolutely.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I mean, that could have had a real effect on the culture. It could have changed society. It certainly would have been something that couldn’t be ignored. It would have to be addressed somehow. And then, of course, you can respond to that and it keeps going. In theory at least, he could have stayed on Twitter, especially Musk’s Twitter. I think Musk actually wanted to start I think Musk was kind of enjoying it and it was helping him to get one ADL and so on.</p>
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<p>So I think he could have stayed on Musk’s sweater if he played it a certain way, but instead he insists on going the whole hog and then posting the Swastika and the Star Dave, whatever it was, and that’s it. And then that brings us actually to Elon Musk, because his comment on that he screenshots of a DM that he sent to Kanye West saying this is not love, about the swastika in the star of David, and Musk’s comment on it was, this is not love. That is fucking cringe.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, I think he’s trying to hold Kanye West to his own standards. At the end of the day, mosque is just a sort of Gen X kind of libertarian type and he will feel for all the reasons all of the other ones did. But nevertheless, the idea of that is like, I can’t defend this is what he’s saying. I can’t stand in your corner. But this is the problem. One of the problems is ideology, because ideology blinds people to reality. A lot of the pain we all know what we want. We all know what our goals are and what our first principles are. But when you kind of get locked in to solve on the tracks of ideological purity, then you just end up in the fuck up. Tame and tame and tame again. And it’s interesting to me that well, it’s interesting that people fuck up on one thing and then they stumble in onto the next thing and fuck that up as well in this scene. And here we are where it’s like everybody jumped on board the year train, which could have been so much better. It could have been fun. Like I said, I’m not colour signaling the signal. I know the trap there. I’m not colour signaling what it is that he’s actually saying. I’m saying the way that they’ve gone about this is kind of retarded. What are we up to now? We switched Twitter account from 30 million followers to a Telegram chat with 10,000 or something like, who gives a folk? And then what is he going to do next? He’s going to go on somebody’s stream. Next week on Odyssey. It’s the biggest pop star in the world. You kidding me. This is the positive outcome for what could have been in the good books of Elon Musk, leaning in to what at that time, Musk himself was doing, which was winding up the ADL, but doing it in a way where he wouldn’t be caught, where he couldn’t be held accountable. What you were doing was drawing out the ridiculous amount of power this obviously Zionist organization is, but not doing it in a way where the canons could fire back on you. Because at the end of the day, in Moscow’s case, it’s like, I’m just a liberal, I’m just a sensible centrist. I just believe in free speech. It’s the ADL who are calling for censorship. It’s the ADL who are getting people just fleets for billions of dollars. I’m just a liberal guy, I just want to have free speech. That’s fine. But in a realistic scenario, there is limits to it. Funny enough. It actually brings me to another article that I wrote called Centrist Caesarism, which you may actually see.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yes, this is a very interesting concept because it immediately predated something happening on Twitter, which was just after, I think you wrote it, just after Musk took over. Then Sargon of Akkad got reinstated on Twitter after you wrote this article. And then the sensible centrism emerged. Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And that’s strange, isn’t it? That’s how that worked out.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, it really is. It was uncanny. Now, Academic Agent was on Millennial last night, and he talked about sensible centrism. I think from his perspective, it is basically and I might be twisting it here, I hope not. It’s basically don’t be an Edge Lord for the sake of it. Don’t drive people away for the sake of being the most controversial person in the room. Don’t have cartoonishly extreme opinions. It’s just sort of silly. And it is. It’s juvenile. And I’ve said the same thing for years. The issue I have with sensible centrism, and I said this to Academic Agent last night, is the word centrism. I think we should be sensible, but I think that the centre is where people don’t really believe in anything. Like Elon Musk doesn’t really believe in anything. I think in order to really defend something, you have to be an extremist in a certain way, because the people who are dead against that thing and want to destroy it, they’re extreme in their own way. Again, I’ve got to be careful how I phrase this, but I think in order to save a thing that is under attack, that takes extreme measures, or it could do at any rate, the ideas are going to be radical relative to the time in which they are appearing. In other words, I think that my ideas are completely sensible. I think that my great-grandparents would have agreed with me on virtually everything and everyone everyone in Britain would have agreed with me on virtually everything four generations ago, but relative to the norm today, my ideas are radical. That’s just a fact. And I wish it weren’t true, but I think it is true. So if I try to rebrand myself as a well, I’m actually a centrist and my enemies are the extremists. The reason I think that will fail is they have the power. They have the power to rebrand and reauthor things. I don’t the term, all right, at one point, it meant one thing, and then the mainstream media took it out of our hands and changed the definition, and there was literally nothing that we could do they just owned it. They just took it and altered what it meant. And they can do that because they have the power. So if I tried to say, I’m actually not this bad guy you might have heard about I’m actually a sensible centrist, the issue with that is that I’m kind of pissing into the wind, even if it’s technically true that my ideas aren’t that extreme or whatever.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, I have to point out there’s a difference between my article on centrist Caesarism and the sensible centre thing, because my article, my essay, which, yes, it’s funny enough, it did predate by about five days the explosion under the scene of the sensible centres, which is funny. It’s a funny thing, that. But nevertheless, my article is not about, let’s say, the far-Right, because we have to be explicit if we’re talking about the centres position, you’ve got the far Left, you’ve got the far-Right and you’ve got the centre. My concept here is not that the far-Right will somehow disguise themselves as centrists and get in under good optics and being kind of moderate and claiming the normal position. Rather what I was getting at was that actual centrists, actual people who are centrists, will actually step up the bat and then defend their own position. Now, there’s a few things to touch on. Here what I got into. I kicked the article off. It was quite a long article. Obviously, it has sort of connotations of Oswald Spengler’s Caesarism. So if you go back to actual Caesar himself, Julius Caesar, he wasn’t an extremist, he was also a pragmatic centrist. And this is clue. Again, I’m not coming at this from the perspective of the dissident of far-Right sphere subverting the centre or claiming the centre. It is the centre itself which is actually realizing itself.</p>
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<p>So that’s important. And so if you look at sort of Caesarism in general, they would be populist, but they were first and foremost pragmatic and not idealists. And I kicked the article off by there’s Brett Weinstein and his wife, who do a podcast, which I’ll dip into now and then for the Cuva type thing. I watched. Obviously he’s jewish, but I think she’s a gentile. But the sentiment, what they expressed was that we are upper middle class, where professionals are highly educated, where we are liberals in a genuine, classic liberal sense, and there is nobody anywhere in the American political sphere who represents us. Nowhere. So an example of this would be the rule versus weird sort of discussion in America about abortion. And the way they framed it was that on the one hand, you’ve got where people want to ban abortion completely, and then on the other hand, it’s like the other side of the argument is that basically it’s just killing babies. As soon as they’re born, it gets insane. And they were saying, where is the middle ground on this? Where is the nuanced centrist middle ground position on this? Where was it on the vaccines? Where was it on covert? Where is it on immigration? There is no middle ground. It’s a very American thing. And so it got me thinking, because the potential resources that this position has are quite large, but they’ve got a problem and they’ve got the same problem that classic liberalism always has had, and it’s that it’s easily cooked and subverted. So, yeah, we bring Elon Musk into the equation, who is himself a classic liberal with a massive amount of resources, as we’ve seen. And we’ve also seen what he’s trying to do with Twitter. And what interested me was when he said that both the far-Right and the far Left would be equally pissed off with the way he was going to handle Twitter.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> So I remember a Remnant poster talked about this. He made a post and he said, this shows you how vaped his thinking is. No, well, go on.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I completely disagree with that, because basically it isn’t vaped if he’s just going to shut down the extremes of both sides. Because what this amounts to is power without ideology. It is arbitrary. In Elon Musk’s case, it is purely sort of defending the centre against the extremes. So what you’re talking about is something which is purely pragmatic and made up on the fly. And if you detect something which is a danger, let’s say Kanye West with a swastika and the Star of David or whatever, but at the same time, over on the Left side of that is just outright child abuse and paedophilia both get banned. So the sort of the ontology here is what you have to draw on the question, is it vehicleed or can it stand sore? Well, it will need a kind of ideal to draw itself on. So what will that idea be? Well, it will be, and this is the long standing criticism of Han Alvarez and a sort of 1980s idealism, which we spoke about, which when America was a good thing, when you look at all of the movie critic, YouTube and Sauron or Elon Musk, they’re not real classic liberals. They’re not classic liberals in the sense of like, Francis Galton or John Locke or all of this. What they really are is nostalgic for the 1980s. So they can actually draw on the 1980s as a kind of epistemology, as a kind of ideal and a vision to strive towards. And then they can say, okay, this is our ideal and we’re going to enforce it. And unlike in the past, let’s say, when it was like, we will platform our enemies, we will platform the far Left, they never really platform the far-Right, but we’re here, they seem to be learning. So then what the idea is, well, no, we’re going to ban them. We need just to be purely pragmatic, because in a sense, where we are in the civilization is beyond ideology. And the essence of Caesarism is pragmatic power, not ideology. Caesarism doesn’t in Spangler’s terms, it’s the end of politics. And what you end up with is just pure pragmatism again, for the greater good.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Well, when the world is as messed up as it is, can you get back to sanity? Can you restore no things from a centrist mindset?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> No, you can’t. What you do is initiate, for example, from the centrist classic liberal point of view, censorship. You don’t do that, you don’t censor people. Otherwise it’s a kind of betrayal of your core principles. Well, it turns out that actually you will just sense of people in the name of the greater good, in the name of stability, in the name of order. And so this is when you bring in a word like aura, you begin to see the sort of Caesarism in the background. Vladimir Putin is in this. Way, just a centrist who is pragmatic when you see people crying because he jails White nationalists or whatever. Look, it’s an objective analysis. I’m not applying a value here. You’ve got to be a realist about these things. And the fact is, it’s just going to lead to instability within Russia to allow these certain ideas to percolate and spray. So you shut it down. Simple as that. And I don’t see why this isn’t going to be the thing that happens in the West where you get somebody who’s like, okay, call me. I don’t care. I’m going to shoot you down. I’m going to shut down Drag Queen Story Hour, and I don’t give a flying fuck about your First Amendment rights. That’s just wrong. You do not get to be sort of a Neo Nazi either. This is not me speaking. This is the central Caesarist. Son of speaking is the way that I framed it. And I think there’s a big base for that. And the reason why it leans into Caesarism is because people are just exhausted with politics. They’re just tired of it. On the one hand, the Caesar is a populist figure, but again, the populists aren’t far-Right or far Left. They just want to have a quiet life, and they will support who gives them that. It may well be that you begin to see people sort of centrist type standing up against the technocracy. We don’t want to live in this surveillance grid. I’m not like an extremist. I just don’t want to live in a kind of panopticon prison. Can somebody come and solve this problem? Can somebody come and get these fucking technocrats out of my life? Where my phone isn’t going to pass judgment on how many times I’ve gone for a piston here? Can somebody please just close the fucking border? I’m not like a White supremacist. Can somebody just do some normal shit here? Because this is getting insane. And it literally begs for a centrist to come up and say, yeah, I’ll do that. I’ll shut down the extremists. And this is the thing. It won’t make sense. Such a worldview is riddled with paradoxes because it’s power deciding in Schmidt. It’s the shift decisionism. You make the decision, and then you justify it afterwards. But the point is that they are the power, and then they will arbitrarily decide who gets to do what and who gets to speak and who doesn’t. This is life beyond politics. So when you say, oh, well, Leon must cook, he isn’t far-Right. He isn’t far Left. He’s a pragmatic centrist. So the essence of centrist Caesarism is different from his sensible centre because it isn’t a bunch of, like, far-Rightists wearing the camouflage of being more benign than what they are. They actually are that, but they have learnt to live with the sins of the past, if you like, when they were just travelled all over and cooked. Now you see it with Musk and Twitter as an example. Potentially, Donald Trump could have been lake this. So you see more and more of these figures popping up where it’s like, I’m not really ideological. I don’t have an ideological vision to implement on the world. I don’t have this perfect utopian system that I’m shilling, but I’ll just do what I can in the moment and make things best and shilling down. Extremists is point number one. And, yeah, it’s shit because that’s going to include us.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Well, yeah, I understand what you’re saying. It’s a pragmatic, sort of, okay, let’s just all calm down, and if the people who won’t calm down will keep them out of the room. But in the end, that doesn’t actually solve the real problems, does it? I mean, it’s a temporary solution. It’s like a sticking plaster, but it’s not actually solving the problems of society.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, no, there’s no vision. It’s stagnation and cultification. It’s just trying to hold it all together. That’s what Caesarism is.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> To be fair, it does offer the degree of stability, but there’s no Catholics here. There is no happy ever after in the claim. This is why it’s important to get back to the issue that Caesarism is what happens when you went over the winter. Another mistake that I think people make is that when they talk of Caesar and not so much like Caesarism, it’s an age of turbulence. It is an age of sort of larger than life characters arriving on the scene and placing themselves in the centre of power and being at odds and at war with bureaucratic systems.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> So would you say that this is a temporary thing, then? A temporary state?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I think it’ll just go on and on. It’s the tension that’s there. The tension and the turmoil is baked into the cake.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I mean, I remember when a certain figure, prominent figure in this movement was on YouTube would have been about 2018, 2019, and he said, do we actually care about free speech or do we believe in freedom of speech? We’ll not say that outlight. And it was sort of joking. I’ve just said it out like kind of thing. But he was admitting that he would censor his opponents, he would imprison his enemies and whatever the trouble is, he’s doing that on a platform that shortly after that banned him because of course it did, but he’s just given them the rationale to ban him. He’s just said, well, freedom of speech isn’t that important. I mean, it is retarded. It is all through the branch that you’re relying on, it’s absolutely retarded.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And I ran into trouble on Telegram a year or two back with somebody from Australia because I pointed out that these kind of the national action tape fellas and what they were doing was deliberately antagonizing the liberalism. In the end, it comes down to power, whether you like it or not. Power will grant privileges to people. It will leave people alone if they don’t threaten it. This kind of thing, if you’re literally standing on a street corner saying, I’m going to take look, the people who occupy positions of power are being told by people who are powerless that they will face sort of Gulags, that they will be put on trial for our lives. If their group gains power, then the group who are now dominant will be hung or worse. If you want to go into some of the auggie chats, well, what does that say to them? What does that say to the people in power? What it says to the people in power is that we’ll crush you like ants because if we don’t, you’re going to kill us.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> This is the essence of politics and you’ve got these people who think they’re clued up. And again, the problem is ideology. It’s like, wow, I don’t care. I’ve got this revealed truth. I’ve got this truth to spread my ideology, my book, my bullet points, my perfect utopia is imminent. And it’s like, well, okay, can we get it off Telegram? Where’s it going to go? Because at the end of the day, the realist perspective on this is that power are just going to crush you like an ant.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I think this is a huge problem and you can talk all you like if you don’t have power, that’s it. And I think this is something become very clear to people over the last few years. There were already foreshadowings off it before Covid but it definitely became clear then that if you have power, and I’ve said this a hundred times, I’m sorry to repeat it, but if you have power, you can offer the narrative, if you don’t, you can’t. It’s as simple as that. So having ideology, and I understand what you’ll know as well as I do, that there are young people in our movement who are obsessed with ideology and getting the ideology right. Because once you’ve got the ideology, then you can capture the public or you can capture, movers and shakers. You can persuade them with the idea. Either way, the ideology will recommend you to other people and it will help you, enable you to persuade other people and I just don’t think that’s true.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And by the way, just a minor point. The ideology itself isn’t that great. There’s a certain, let’s say, Nativist who would even deny property rights. So that like, my dad worked all his life, he owns his own house, he paid off a mortgage. But that would make him a kind of property owning, individualist Anglo, and he needs to kind of subordinate himself to the new socialist kind of Third World Hegelian Dialectic superstate. And my dad will just say, here, Pump, fuck off, will you take your fucking book of bullshit and shove it up your fucking hoop. I’ve worked all my life for this house and I’m going to hand it over because you’re a fucking ideologue on the internet. You look it. Fuck you.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yes, well, in the end, it comes back to these tangible things. If you can’t appeal to people’s desire for certain things, a family, freedom, self sufficiency, autonomy, or something more like the nation, the religion that they believe in, et cetera. And this is something that AA said last night, that people are not really animated by values and principles. And I agreed and I said, yeah, I think they’re animated by something tangible that they can protect and defend or pursue, like a goal. And if you can’t do that, then I don’t think it’s going to get off the ground. Now, we hope that people will care about their ethnic group. They obviously shoot, I mean, everyone else does. And the animal kingdom, it goes without saying, but for some reason why people don’t seem to care about their group. They’ll fight flight to their group, but when their group is under political and cultural attack, they will suddenly believe that they don’t have a group, that their group doesn’t exist. And this is a huge problem because it leaves us very vulnerable and naked to what other groups want to do to us. That’s, again, just a fact, as we were saying earlier about wartime vegetable growing and so on. And I think this is a problem for the ideologues because well, you go.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> People are asking, if this is all true, then what’s the point of even talking about this stuff? Which is a bit of a disgruntled point to make, but it’s valid. What is the point of talking? If basically we are stuck in the stasis now with Caesarism, a stupid dysfunction, as I said earlier, and radical ideas are going to be rejected outright, then what is the point of analyzing it anymore?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, I’m not saying what I did was post a hypothetical. So in the case of the central season, maybe it won’t happen. What I did was write an article about it, which is analyzing trends and drawing on some sort of influences from the past and saying this is where it could go. I’m not saying that it’s absolutely certain. Maybe it would. Maybe it will just be the outright technocracy. The purpose in talking about all of this is because we’re trying to get a grip of what’s going on in the world around us.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I agree. And that’s going to be the case. No matter what turns up, it’s still going to be that we are living in this world and we’re trying to come to grips with it, trying to understand it.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, there’s people who know about this because you’re talking about the basics. I mean, the Woodlanders in the chart, he’s watches stuff. He’s more clued up on this. The sort of the basic how to survive offgrid get together network. I mean, I’m doing that in my own life. That’s what we should be doing. And it isn’t to say that there is absolutely no political situation. Maybe there is, but I just don’t see it. But the political situation will be something which is new and kind of doesn’t trigger the alarms or it will be an elite within the current system who goes wrong. And that’s not as outlandish as what you might think. Actually there’s already signs of that happening in recent years. You can see that there is this problem that they’ve got. You’ve got Donald Trump, you got Elon Musk, even to a certain degree, I would say of Vladimir Putin. They don’t have everything locked down, but in terms of sort of dishing out some kind of straightforward advice or there’s parties out there. There are organizations out there already. They do exist. They are there. My own take is to not whack the horn, it’s nest and kind of stay out of touch, don’t trigger the alarm systems and prepare yourself for what’s to come. And somebody like Woodlander does a great job of that. There is also organizations out there who are doing things in the real world. If you think that’s a viable solution, these things are there. My personal view is that things are going to get really bad. And what we already have is this kind of network. And at the end of the day, what me and Melaniel Wood are doing here we are just two blocks talking on the internet. There’s a sizable audience and everything. I can give my take on what’s happening in the world right now and where I think things could go or what this new piece of culture was, what that means in the current side case and whatnot. But at the end of the day, I can’t chop firewood for you or make sure that you’ve got gold when the system collapses. There’s so much of this kind of I watch some of the big conspiracy channels like Max Egan on BitChute sometimes. The stuff he comes up with is much more outlandish than what we’ve discussed here. But he says this again and again. At the end of the day, I can’t do this for you. I’m literally a normal bloke sitting in a flat and bloody North Daims aid. The organizations exist. There’s people out there left, right and centre offering advice. I don’t really understand it.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It can relate to that sort of the painful question which just came up before, which I understand, look, don’t get as well I understand it, but I don’t have all the answers either. I’m just an all blue, but I remember that sort of Catherine Austin Fitz. She’s in with the sort of anti grade reset. She’s a specialist in economics and her take on this was pretty good. And she said, if you don’t believe in conspiracy theories, you better start believing and you better start getting yourself inside of a conspiracy theory as fast as possible. The way you get through this is to be within a circle of conspiracy. Because the point that she’s making is that if you’re just kind of a mass of atomized individuals, as EA would say, the organized minority will just rule over you time and time again. So get within a circle of conspiracy as fast as possible, or a network is more politely put.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s possible. I mean, I always wonder what happened to all of that gear in Afghanistan. The American military just seemed to leave, like, $150,000,000,000 worth of the best gear ever you can imagine in Afghanistan, really for nothing. I understand that there’s some cost thing, and I was like, well, this kind of era is over and done with, and we were going to just sort of allow the Taliban to take over. Yeah, I get it. It’s going to destabilize that part of the world. Yeah, okay, I get it. But still, just the sheer amount of equipment that they seem to leave behind, that seems weird. I don’t get that. I wonder if I found it with the Ukraine. I don’t know. I’m not really a geopolitics kind of guy. The long term consequences, I think, are by the looks of it, we are all very close to 2023, and we’re going to be coming onto a year for this war. I don’t think the Russians wanted that. I think the Russians are its not going according to what they wanted. Sooner or later, there’s going to be some kind of peace talks and we’ll see what happens. It’s a problem because either way, you’re going to end up with a need or kind of global home with Ukraine, or which is against what Russia wanted in the first place, or it just grains on and on and on. But my personal thoughts on this, regardless of the politics, is that both Russia and Ukraine, like everywhere else in the White world, have shit birth rates. When you look at World War II, the European nations had, like, high birth rates. We had birth rates which were the equivalent of, like, Afghanistan or something. You’re talking like, three or four children, at least half of them. So each woman may be producing two boys, which will become men who could fight in a war. We don’t have that now. And so when you’re looking at sending the youth of Russia and Ukraine, both of them and hundreds of thousands of prime sort of young men are just being wiped out. This is catastrophically bad for the demographics of those country and the long term health of those countries. Because when you went into this kind of modernity, this particular era of modernity where we are and everybody’s got fucking macro plastic in their ball sacks, everybody’s eating shit all of the time, the fucking women are lesbians, everybody’s determined of a tranny, it’s already bad enough. The last thing that you need is to send in your prime fucking stock to wipe each other out in a war like this because there’s no coming back from it. And the worst of it is that America is such a nihilistic empire that they don’t even give two shits about their own stock. You can at least say that. I don’t believe for a second that Zelensky cares about the Ukrainian people, but at least in theory, I can understand the Russian motivation here, even if it is quite cool in regards to Russian manpower. But, yeah, they’re sacrificing an entire generation of men, which we can’t afford anymore.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. And even more horrifying is that the solution to that will be mass immigration from Africa and the Middle East.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> There is a country murdering itself here. It’s just absolutely fucking dreadful. We didn’t even go into that. The whole stuff about Ukraine being a proxy for America, the Ukrainians themselves having their own interests, their own history or whatever, but it doesn’t matter because they’re basically owned and controlled by America. There’s that whole aspect. It’s been gone into another episode of Millennial. But do you have anything to say about that?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> You can make that argument in principle, but it dies as soon as the sovereignty of the nation states of Western Europe are done away with. They were done away with after World War II, but now it’s explicit because now it’s like, well, what we’re expecting just freeze and cook and pay £3 for a loaf of bread, but in solidarity for the people of Ukraine. Even though we never had a say in any of this, I don’t see that argument stacking up at all.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. And even though the people of Ukraine were basically that this war was imposed upon them by America, by continually goading Russia, so they didn’t do this either. So the whole thing has been orchestrated and I agree with you completely, the whole thing about Nord Stream. I did an entire episode of my weekly show The Gram about Nord Stream because it just seemed incredible at the time. It seemed so significant. And it’s still that America fucked one of its own allies in such a way that it’s going to have repercussions long, even if there’s war ended tomorrow. Well, Nordstrom still isn’t there. Germany is fucked, I guess you could say. Well, once the war is over, they’ll just repair the pipeline because it won’t be a problem anymore, Germany trading with Russia. But that’s not really the point. It will still be a problem for America if Germany does that because that strengthens the relationship between Germany and Russia and it also strengthens Germany, which again, America doesn’t want. It wants people buying stuff from America. So this whole thing is disastrous for Europe. And again, it’s not just about the war. The war is the excuse for America to bomb that pipeline. But the offensive of that will go far beyond the war.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah. You reach this kind of precipice, you reach this uncomfortable position where if we are going to kind of take the idea of national sovereignty and nationalism seriously, what’s in the best interest for the people of Europe, we have to turn around of the Americans and say, it’s not you are the problem here, because Germany and Russia were doing fine. So it’s a complicated situation. But we reached the point where nationalists in Europe and I know this has been kind of a bit of a running thing without being insulting to the American people or how it all came about. You can blame this entirely on the Deep State and on the State Department and everything, but we’ve reached a place here where we are better off being allies with powers on the Eurasian landmass than you. And in my own opinion, especially when we bring in the toxic rebrand and the trannies and the gay flag and the fucking blacks and worshipping all of this fucking bullshit that America just pisses all over the world, which everybody hates. So it’s like Lenny. America has become like Lenny of Mason men, this kind of giant retard thing which just threatens to break everybody’s skulls. And it’s like, oh, can we do something about this problem? Can we do something about the retard problem, which America has become here?</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I don’t think there’s anything to say to that. Really. The whole thing about national sovereignty is very interesting. I remember you got into an argument with someone on Telegram who was talking about Ukraine and national sovereignty. It’s important that we defend Ukraine because they are national sovereignty. And you made this point about Nord Stream. Well, what about German national sovereignty? And, of course, what about British national sovereignty and all these countries in Western Europe that are under the thumb of America? The whole thing is and then you ended up with people having to say, well, it probably wasn’t America that bombed the pipe lane, because that rubber sees their whole thing about defending the American line here.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, that was a nice one that we didn’t get a touch on because I’ve been a bit serious tonight. I’m not sure what people want me to get into. I said earlier, the stuff that I like to do the most, heartfelt stuff, it isn’t the kind of if I’m honest, I don’t really give a shit about Kanye West, but it’s kind of like, well, people want to hear my view on it and so I’ll give it. And yet the video and the essay The Band Played On was like something which I was really like, maybe the top three kind of things that I did this year in terms of content the Band Played On would be right up there. Hardly anybody mentions it, nobody cares. They want to know, like, oh, well, if the excess deaths are actually going down and, oh, well, the vaccine wasn’t this bad. I’m kind of dragged into the kind of the hot take culture. But if you actually look like my actual content is a little bit different, it’s a little bit more personal, and the band played on, the whole thing behind it. What I said in the video was all true. I was out in Northumberland walking my dog and I came across this little sort of ceremony memorial thing. And I heard the brass band playing. I heard the vicar giving a sermon about the miners that had died. And I tried to do one of my quick take telephone style videos, but the weather was awful. It was windy and it just wouldn’t work. So I put it away. I thought, I’m going to come back to this. This is a subject I’m going to come back to. And what it was about was just the relationship between the history of the north, especially in England, but the military and the brass band. What really matters about it is that it’s a part of our culture and our heritage which hasn’t been territorialized. The brass band has a certain effect on English people and people say, well, it’s nostalgic. It always was nostalgic. Even in the 1960s, 1980s, the brass band was actually a thing to come out of the Industrial Revolution. And the factory bosses, they didn’t want their workers engaging in politics. So what they did was set up these brass bands, which were instruments which were quite cheap and that would occupy their free time of the night time. And so what happened was that this kind of dripped into British culture especially, and it has a kind of militaristic feel. The military itself adopted it, obviously. Marching the brass band, it was a thing in the unions and the mines and all these things, and I just happened to come across this beautiful little spectacle with a brass band playing, the vicar giving a sermon, and it was all about just the history of this village in Northumberland. What I try to do is try to find little gaps in the way we live now and it’s little gaps of authenticity and ways of thinking and feeling which are just for us and don’t belong to anybody else.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, it is a thing that sometimes, and I had this quite a few times on YouTube where you would make a video that you really cared about, but it wouldn’t make much of a splash. And then, conversely, you could do something very off the cuff that you didn’t think was really anything special and loads of people would like it and it’s nice when that happens, but it’s damn disappointing when the first thing happens. It’s a shame, but it’s just the plight of the content creator, really. You can’t predict what is going to matter to people. Okay, grief gave smiley face and thank you for that. Oliver said, do you guys think that a form of direct democracy, like the one Switzerland has, using referendums might be a way to stop the walk abuse of power that we experience here in the UK? I can answer that, yes, and I would like it. I think that I have a lot more time for referendums. I have a lot more respect for referendums and again, I can’t remember if it’s referenda, but anyway, than I do for party politics. Party politics is just so corruptible and in our age, so corrupt, it’s just absolutely fucking useless at this point. But I think referendums are a bit harder to twist. I mean, the establishment definitely didn’t want the result from the Brexit referendum that it got.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, imagine we’ve got all of these little parties to the right of the Tory Party, and imagine if there was a little party in embryonic form, behind the scenes, and their pitch was, in a way, going to be localism. And what I mean is, they would have a system using, ironically, digital technology being up to date, and what their sort of plan would be, would be where each PM MP, sorry, would be held accountable by what they pledged and what they did in Parliament. And what you would have would be a form of localism where let’s just say in somewhere like Brighton on the south coast, they would always vote for shitlibs. And if I’m coughing a bit here, I’m struggling because I’ve been talking for so much, but give us a second.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> If you’ve got a party of shitlibs, you got Brighton on the south coast, they will vote for more work, more immigration, more whatever, more White privilege, more Judge Floyd statues, all of this shite. But you may have, in another part of the country, their local MP will deliver on that and he’ll be held accountable by them to do that. Because, remember, this is supposed to be the system that we actually live under representative democracy. So if you imagine, then you’ve got somewhere typically in British politics, Yorkshire is like reactionary. Yorkshire tends to veer to the Right a lot of the time. And so you may well find that there’s somewhere in Yorkshire who wants to have no more asylum centres, no more immigrants. They don’t want to see any more of the war crop. They don’t want to see any more rainbow flags and all of this shite. So their PM, their MP, is then held accountable by this. And imagine if you could have.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yes. I think our system is okay. America is a special case. Our voters and I’ve seen them counting in our case, and it is like Jenny and Paul from down the road. They’re not political. They’re just putting it in the box. I don’t have a problem with our electoral system. The Americans. That’s their problem. Just in terms of how votes are counted here, it seems okay, except for the rotten boroughs in certain parts of London and whatnot, by and large, we’re okay with that. But this doesn’t account for the population itself being brainwashed. But the system that I was outlined before, of course, wouldn’t be ideological. The ideology would just be the consensus of the local area. So this is happening. It’s not all doom and gloom. All right, I’m going to leave you with a little bit of hope. But what I will say is beggars can’t be choosers. So we’ll bear that in mind as we go forward. But let’s just move on.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Because we always have to place themselves in the rule of the pluto rebels fighting against the evil empire, even when literally Disney produced this. Disney, a multibillion dollar corporation of brainwashing and narrative control, produced a series about Marxist rebellion and living under a tyrannical regime, which was realist and decent enough and the Lefties are like, oh, God. This is literally life under fascism. And I’m thinking, no, fuck you. This is life under you are the empire. You are the bureaucrats that make people’s lives hell. You’re not these idealistic rebels. You are these dead, souled, horrible managerial civil servants who everybody dreads.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> There would have definitely been somebody sitting there who thought, he’s right and these other people are scum. But the authority favoured the scum in that particular instance.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I think another cause might be culture, that it rewards low that behaviour. It even rewards low that attitudes. So I don’t know. But I suspect that there’s something in that. I suspect that does have a physiological effect eventually. Basically, masculinity is just not rewarded. Then also, things that would increase their social competition, for example. Well, nowadays you compete to be the most to be less masculine, if anything. But I think boys in school especially are discouraged from things that probably would have increased their testosterone in generations past. I just wouldn’t be surprised if there are cultural factors in this that eventually have a physiological effect. That’s all I’ll say about that. And I’m certainly not an expert. I just find it plausible. Okay. Tulther says, best millennial ever. Some great guests. Thank you very much. There could have been room for some more and old and new guests. Leather Apron Club, the German Pointer, American Crogan Endeavor. Some of them have already appeared previously. Keep asking for the support. These podcasts are entertaining and important. Well, thank you very much. People can find the link to donate it’s in the description and the video description. We’d appreciate that very much. Super chats. I should have said this at the start of every stream, but I didn’t want to waste people’s time. They can be sent by entropy or the Orthodoxy hyperchats or my own Telegram bot, but anyway, it’s a bit late in the day for that now, so I will get through these others. Empty Vessel says double think is a real thing. That was when we were at the start. We’re talking about that baron of Darth Sonian. Does Woze read this chat or do people send money via entropy? Both. Thank you. Judy says Happy New Year. Thank you. Happy New Year, Judy. Charlie says have this. Thank you, orthodoxy. We’ve done that one. That one. Okay. I think we’ve got through most of these. Oh, Darcinian says I’m going to sit back now, sipping my cozy Johnny Walker. I’ve been waiting for this stream for weeks. Mary yule tide. And Happy New Year to Colin and Morgue. Well, thank you very much and that’s a very generous donation you’ve made there, so that’s much appreciated and I hope you’ve enjoyed the stream. Lady of shalot says many modern men are the products of feminism, bad parenting and government schooling. I got involved in helping a victim of the rape gangs when I lived in Yorkshire. I was horrified to find those with the least empathy were often White English men. They have no in group preference whatsoever. Well, this is a depressing point, but I think it again, I find this plausible. Morgoth, what would you say about this?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, I remember there was somebody that became a bit of a meme, but what was he called? Joe. Joe something. Joe Owens? Yes. And on YouTube. And he was a good guy. He was one of us. But he was warning his point on the grooming gang issue. And he said this repeatedly across videos. And I know that people have like a kind of he became a meme and people like him and whatnot, but he did say repeatedly that at the end of the day, these girls are just White trash and nobody cares about them. And I just don’t accept that at all. I feel that I don’t get to pick and choose which of my people I want to speak out for and which that I don’t is a girl in Rotherham. Because I think that’s what really who I know she’s a lovely person. That’s where that’s coming from. It’s this idea that the English girls it’s also not actually true entirely, but I get it. It’s like they are underclass, they are from broken homes, but look, they are still even the broken homes, even the idea that their families fell apart and they are just wandering the streets to be picked up and prayed upon.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And even even the fact that their families have been dissolved. There’s all of these problems. Maybe it’s a single mother household. They can’t keep ahold of them. They can’t control them. They’re wandering that, you know, you’ve got 15 year old girls wandering these gloomy streets of post industrial England, and they’re being picked up and they’re being abused horribly. I don’t accept that they says, well, certain group of people we can write a fuck that. No, it doesn’t work like that it’s the same sort of thing with the vaccine. The vaccine thing as well. No, the lib Todd took the facts. These are all our group. And what you have to do is stand above it and judge the entire system and all of the little cogs and all the constituent parts which brought this shit show upon us. I absolutely don’t accept that we can conveniently say because the rationale behind it was that this isn’t a vote winner. You won’t win votes because, well, people see them as just being trashy young girls.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Well, see, that the only reason that’s not a vote winner is 50 years of indoctrination. You know, if you’d said to the British public in 1920, these foreigners are raping our women, our girls, what should we do? I mean, do you want to vote in a party that would that would deport these foreigners who are there is no question that the British public would say, absolutely, you’ve got my vote. Do it. The only reason there’s not a fucking vote winner now is that we’ve been so thoroughly subverted, it should be a fucking vote winner.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Well, there are worse ways that could be remembered. All right, let’s see. God almighty, there have been so many. Okay, here’s one. I think I’ve found the place. Lady of shallot asked, has Morgoth ever thought of reviewing the classic 90s drama series our Friends in the north? I remember that it has recently been made available again on the BBC iplayer as part of their anniversary. I watched it back in the rewatched it again recently. I’d love Morgoth taking the series. Many thanks.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> What happens is if you’re a content creator, I produce a lot of content, but there’s a kind of, say, a thousand word article and I’ll turn it into a video or whatnot. But if you’re actually going to sort of get into something which is really massive, you’re really busy on the back end, but let’s say on the front end, which is, say, what people want to see the audience, it looks as if you’ve just disappeared for, like, three weeks and say, well, what’s he doing? What’s going on here? Is there any content coming? And there’s a fine line. It’s that difficult. It’s a very fine line to get that right. So if I was to embark on our friends in the north, it would probably have to be I would do video. I’ve already tested that. The actual footage I can get away with using on YouTube, like I did with the likely large video. I can use actual footage and it doesn’t get picked up for copyright. I’ve done my test, but just the scale of the project would be massive, and it would mean that I’ve kind of been quiet for a while. For one project, one thing that you.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah. Okay. Defiant Irishman says Morgoth is the man with the two of you ever consider doing a Collins show in the future? I’ve never done that. Well, I did the Hangouts back in the day. They can be very chaotic, and there’s no way to well, as far as I know, there’s no way to vet someone before they come on. You could get someone who just comes on and splatters fucking nuts, insane stuff. I don’t know. It’s a risky thing to venture into. Morgoth, what do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I’m not a big live streamer, so if that kind of thing was to happen, I would kind of just let wars deal with all of this. Kind of its weird because when you look at my content, this is obviously a giant extra super sized live stream tonight. But in the course of my normal content, I don’t do very many live streams. I’m not a big live streamer. I pop up here and there on other people’s. But I do my classic movies with Endeavor. But by and large, it’s not my thing. I tend not to like it. I tend not like spontaneity. Even my YouTube videos are scripted and thought out. And even if it’s an off the cuff thing, they’ll tend to be like some bullet points of what I want to say. That’s my preferred kind of content. It’s not that often that I actually just freewheel it. So if that kind of thing was to happen, I would pass over the managerialism entirely. The wars.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I tend to just like the fish and chips, to be honest. I mentioned earlier when I was talking about the Lefty, I do have a weakness for Leo and I’m very well aware of the pretentiousness to it. But I do like it. It does taste nice. This is the problem. You can laugh at hipster. They’ve got these ridiculous real ales, but they are nice. They are really nice to drink.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I’ve said this myself about hipster stuff like hipster food, for example. It’s bloody good food. I’m sorry, it just is. And I also like the decor in a lot of places. I remember when I was doing a lot of traveling in Europe, 20, 17, 18, you’d go to these platelet bars and cafes. It was really nice in Amsterdam and that kind of thing. And they really put a lot of effort in. Yes, as much as you can say it’s middle class, pretentiousness and indulgence and whatever. And they’re stupid liberals. Well, of course they are, but they’re doing what White people always do and they’re being innovative and they’re caring about things, especially the women. They put a lot of effort into making a place nice and it’s like, well, why not enjoy that? To some extent, hipsters get a bad rap because, yes, they’re a bunch of wankers and yes, they’re liberals, but in a sense I just see them doing what White people do and doing it really well.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Some of its ridiculous where you get stouts and there’s like marshmallow in because it has special head on items. You’ve got like a basic kind of nutty real ill ruby, real ill. Which you drink it and you just think, my God, that’s a good beer. That’s one hell of a good beer. But yeah, the problem is you get all the wank that comes along with it.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> What occurs to me is that if we do enter a period of economic stagnation and people are struggling and all that, the hipster is going to be a thing of the past. I mean, you’re just not going to be able to sustain that it’s a culture that’s very much built upon luxury. There is not going to be the hipster. There’s no place for the hipster in grim, dark nationalism, as you once said.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> You’d be surprised that a lot of the real that you see in these kind of pretentious places, they come from micro breweries, and there’s really not much difference between a micro brewery and real brewing it at home. I’ve made batch after batch at home, not with the actual raw ingredients. I use the tin, but I brewed it in a bin and they all got into it from doing that. It isn’t that much of a leap. The only difference is that they use the wrong gradients. And then what they did was to kind of funny about a bit with what goes with what even. I made the Tom Claxton basic relief and I put in ana seed. I also made keg after keg of stout, and I would put in licorice just so it offset the bitterness a little bit. And that’s all they’ve done, really. It’s a bit more sophisticated. But let’s get on because this is a booking six hour stream here.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Okay, universal sent in this one. Merry Christmas. WOZN, Morgoth. You are the two comfortable content creators on Earth, in my opinion. And I loved the epic Christmas Carol in your latest video. Morgoth, my question for you both is why do you think New York, London and Israel had the most extreme lockdowns and vaccine mandates, given who lives there? New York, London and Israel. And that in New York and Melbourne, the globalist community was directly named and targeted for not following the Covid measures? On a lighter note, would you rather give up paint or rewatching first blood for the rest of your life? Happy yell tie to you all and a good night. Well, thank you very much, Universal. So, first of all, would you rather give up paints or rewatching first blood? Crystal, maybe?</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I mean their own ideology or their own creed has swallowed them up at that point. They’re involved in it as well. There’s no way for them to get out. This is the thing. It also relates to their rates of marrying out as well because they have been preaching a lot of their leading voices have been preaching that everyone should marry out and race mix and whatever. Then how can they stop that happening to the Romeo? I mean, eventually it will become quite difficult. All right, let’s move on. This is orthodoxy. Does Morgoth endorse? Pox populized thought that nationalists should get behind religional and marginal nations Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, Catalonia, et cetera, in the hope that they could become base holdouts against global homo.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Exactly. Global home gets there first. That’s the thing. It gets there first, takes them over because they’re easy. I mean, look at Ireland. It’s fucked in the space of 1020 years.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> So in theory, yes, I absolutely do in practice from some of the realist perspective is that when you are a small power, a larger power in this case in regards to Scotland or Ireland, it will be the European Union and then behind that you go back to American Deep State. But in theory, yes, absolutely, that is just localism. Absolutely. But in practice what it means is that you will go cap in hand to the next big power and you also run into problems just in terms of logistics and where your food is coming from and this kind of thing. So once again, the localist argument is valid and it’s sound, but you have to accept that there will be costs, that you will no longer get all of the goodies anymore, which Neoliberalism has to provide. If you look at Northern Ireland, how many lambs, how much actual produce, does Northern Ireland can itself sustain itself? Now in that particular case, quite well, actually. Whether these provinces and the Catalan can and these little breakaway places may well be that all you end up with is wine in this situation if you’re going to go all the way on this. But what I’m saying is that’s actually okay, especially when you’ve got sea, you’ve got seafood and yeah, I’m for that, but I’m very conscious of the fact that so many of these tiny little statelets will just end up being like little pincers, like little kind of claws of global humour. All of power, basically.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> No, I haven’t. I’ve been spooked a few times, but no, basically I’ve never seen anything supernatural. I could kind of go off on a tangent of about as I can on pretty much everything, but it’s like 6 hours into the stream and I’m.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Just okay, all right. Pebble in the pond. Generous the nation. Thank you very much. Wonderful millennial lineup. I am so happy I was able to catch Morgoth’s appearance live. Happy you and New Year to you both. Well, thank you very much. Pebble in the pond. That’s much appreciated. Okay. Kulu says, do you think the recent economic collapse in Europe will be helpful in slowing these nefarious plans, as they may need more support even from us, to keep it all together? Well, this is kind of related to the idea that they’re importing the Africans in order to be a police force. I think they’ve already got the infrastructure they need. I don’t think they need support from the Africans. I don’t think they need support from us. I think at least they feel that they can sustain this indefinitely, especially with the surveillance technology that we were talking about earlier. Morgoth, do you want to comment on that?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> No, I don’t because they’ve already got the opening call of the grey reset. So the idea is that we transition. And this is a word that you hear a lot these days. Another one of the words, those words is transition. We transition into just a different kind of society. So whether or not it’s because Putin invades Ukraine, or whether or not it’s because climate change agenda and all of the rest of it, the future has already been marked out. They know where we are going. It’s not like they are uncertain and it’s not like the division of the future is kind of a surprise. Oh no, look at this. The civilization has hit these hard rocks and now we’re going to have to like rejig everything. No, that’s already being mapped out. That’s solid. They know what’s coming. They’ve already built in. It’s already baked into the cake what things will be like in the future. The question is a fundamental one, and it’s that we reject the entire premise of this vision. The difficult part is that when you go back because what it is is the utilitarianism, this technocracy, and it’s what is the alternative vision to that? And the alternative vision to that has to be something which is again, you have to go back to sort of localism because at the end of the day, you have to say, well, we want to live an authentic life. We want you away from us. It’s a reactionary frame. But beyond that you get help from people like C. S. Lewis, who instead of the mathematical spreadsheet calculation had on the world. And this actually leads you back to a more religious view, metaphysical view of the world is that the world and the people in it have value in and of themselves and that there’s an intrinsic beauty of things which we don’t have to explain, we can’t experience. It is what it is. And to be fair, it is also universalist. But it is absolutely not this kind of dry utilitarianism what they haven’t made.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, okay. Lady of Shallot, the online harms Bill will further extend the reach of the state as it will force yet more self censorship. The Bill is being pushed by the dad of Molly Russell, a girl who killed herself after online abuse. Her father is deflecting his own guilt. He gave a child a smartphone, a recipe for disaster. Well, the online harmsville has been brought in under the pretence of protecting children from online abuse, but that’s the least of it. I mean, it’s clearly another instrument by which they will reduce the freedom of speech of the general public. Protecting children I think is I don’t think they really give a shit. I mean, look at again, just look at Rotherham for fuck’s sake.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, I don’t believe that for a second. I think what happened to that girl seems to be horrible. I don’t want to take that away from the family but they are being used by the system in the same way. Just oil or what’s the other one? Extinction, revolution or rebellion? All of these what’s happened is a legitimate problem has been astrotiffed in order to push through what power wants. And what power wants is the ability to sense for things like this stream. And what they’re going to do in reality is fear that Odyssey is a problem because it hosts conversations like this and this is sort of against this and that and that and the other protocol of the online harmless bill. What we have spoken about tonight is an online harm and so honestly has to stump up and give I think it’s a 10% of its revenue for the year to the British government. Or it censors like this conversation. That’s what it’s about.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, there’s fucking grotesque. Anyway, you can imagine what we would both say about that if we were to continue the rant. So I’ll just move forward to the next one. Henchwood says to all the people asking but what can we do if you can’t cancel your TV licence, you’re part of the problem. That’s a definite. Well, I don’t want to encourage any illegal behaviour certainly, but if you don’t have a TV and if they can’t prove you whatever, then you don’t need to pay your TV licence. I mean it’s very again, I’m certainly not encouraging anyone to break the law, but the TV licensing vans, the detector vans and all that, it’s all bullshit.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, that’s all shit. I got took the court years ago at my worst possible time when I was already living in absolute poverty. I’ve still never paid it. I’ve still never ever paid the licence fee. Well, when I was living with a certain lady and we did then because we were settling down and we wanted everything to be neat and tidy, but since then, I just don’t pay it. And I get letters. I just immediately throw them in the bin. The only thing you’ve got to take care of is that well, to be fair, they don’t even knock on the door anymore. But they did used to. Yeah. I’ve had Or Lanes with it, but for God’s sake, don’t pay the licence fee.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yes, I do, but it’s definitely not the answer that I was expecting. Just a bizarre place to end up after asking you about Andrew Tate. But, yeah, I understand what you’re saying, and it’s a very good answer. All right, Harry asks, I’m a climate refugee. Can I get a free hotel room? It’s fucking raining all the time. Slight introduction of levity there. Thank you for that, Harry Darby. I wish more young men my age were watching Morgoth’s review instead of shit like Andrew Tate. Hope you guys had a Merry Christmas. Thanks for everything you do well, thank you very much, Darby, and I think that Morgoth will agree with you. Irish Rose gives a smiley face. And thank you very much. Very kind. Orthodoxy given Morgoth has spoken about the increasing mask of totalitarianism of our elites. Will democracy be decommissioned at some point or will it remain given that it provides a convenient facade?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, this is the problem. This is a good question. This is why I talk a lot about self at me, because I want what we have is just power. This is a good question and it’s a shame that it’s too late. But basically they’re going to try and wear that mask for as long as possible because it’s convenient, because they’re never held to account, because they have no ideology. There is not a specific set of ideals. What you have is just oligarchic power, wearing the mask of liberal democracy, but in doing anything they want. I mean, I touched on this earlier. If you got a time machine, you go back 1980, they wouldn’t have a clue what we were living in now, and yet the name is the same. If you think of Putin’s Russia and say Communist Russia, that is a bigger change than what we’ve gone through since 1980. It’s absolutely a completely different system. It’s a completely different way of life. But we call it the same thing. And they won’t own up to it because they don’t have to. Because when you lay your cards on the table and you say, well, actually okay, so this is what it’s about. We are implementing this sort of panopticon utilitarian system of race blindness where you White British just happen to be the natives on this now sort of zone of land that we want to Tara form. You’re just kind of in the way because that’s what they’re doing. Then it becomes difficult because they’ve come out and said it and so they just won’t. And so everybody just thinks we’re still living under a liberal democracy. I mean, if you look at like man of Steel when General Zod brings in the terraforming machines because they want to turn Earth into the planet Krypton, I think there’s like three of them, these giant claw kind of machines, and they just land. They just come down from the orbit and they just plough the Earth and all of a sudden they just start pummeling the Earth. They just bashing it to bits and the gravity gets shot at pieces. The ecology, everything is just being annihilated because they’re terraforming it. They’re turning into something else. That’s where we are now. That’s why it feels weird and disorienting.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Certainly is. All right, as Whitneyard says, as always, Morgoth is the finest end of level boss for this year’s millennial. Thank you to Woes for all your hard work and the guest whom you have hosted this year. Thanks also to Morgoth for doing what he does best for closing the year. Let’s hope 2023 is less gay. Well, thank you very much. Whityard. Okay. Golden AGEman LibGen rs is the best source for books. Can find almost everything on there. I also download and save locally and have paper copies of important ones. Well, this is to do with preserving things in the age when online material can simply get deleted. So, as good advice, there noticer in chief says, you’ve both been extremely helpful to all of us. Thank you. Especially given the added pressures we’ve faced in recent times. Thank you both. That’s a nice comment. Then Irish nationalist media says, thank you both for everything you have done. Our movement has grown and matured so much in the past eight years. We have had bad moments, like the beginning of censorship and Hate Speech laws, but this was a desperate response to our rise, and it is desperation and will not stop us. We will not be replaced. I fucking dearly hope that you’re right, and thank you for the encouraging comments there. Irish nationalist media. All right. Defiant Irishman. Listening to me and my boss talk about the Roma gypsies who moved into our town must be like listening to an episode of TDs. I can believe you. The Irish are surprisingly open and forthright about immigration, but diversity, but especially about the Roma gypsies. It’s a weird thing where the Roman gypsies seem to be the one group that everyone is openly allowed to hate. It’s a strange thing. I don’t really I’m guessing that will be clamped down on, but at the same time, it doesn’t really matter, does it? Because they’re not part of the program, really. All right, Dharma initiate question for Morgoth and Woes. Is there anything you’re looking forward to seeing in the new year? I’m looking forward to summer. I never used to like summer, but I do know I really like the second half of the year from the height of summer. I don’t like spring, but I like the other seasons from the height of the summer to Autumn and then to the darkness of winter. I really like that. So I’m looking forward to that. In the meantime, I’m looking forward to returning to creative writing because I find that very rewarding and a lease of new life for me this year. When I started that, I’ve not done it at all for the last six months. First because I was working on the Gram, then because I was working on Millennial for the last three months. So I’m really looking forward to returning to that. Margolf, is there anything you’re looking forward to in 2023?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, it’s quite a bit. I mean, I’ve got some personal things which I won’t get into, which I’m happy about and the way things are going, but even just more basic. You said, I’m looking for a summer. That’s nice. Yeah, I’m looking for a spring we already passed. It was on the 22nd. The nights are already getting later again, like right now. So when you think about it.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Actually a good thing. We used to be disconnected entirely. Alistad used to be completely oblivious to these kinds of things, but I do notice them now. And it’s another thing that I write about quite a bit on the substac. I did sort of a recent article about just winter, about the symbolism of winter from the civilizational perspective, but how that kind of intersects with winter itself, where time freezes you’re at the end of a cycle. And when you are at the end of a cycle, it’s related to what we were talking about earlier of the centrist Caesarism where politics has died. There’s no new roots being born anymore. You are in this kind of frost covered, cultivated landscape. It’s funny because I wrote that when it was like literally snow on the ground and frozen, and it didn’t take long until we just went back to being dumped and cooled again. But whatever, the point is well made and it’s already getting late again and I’m looking forward to go fishing, which is what I want to do. I just enjoy being outdoors and I’ve got some projects which I’m working on behind the scenes, which I really want to get finished this year. So, yeah, there’s lots of good stuff. And for the Diehard sort of Morga fans, henry Cavill is going to be in a War Hummer movie.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yes, we certainly do. Okay. Privileged lord asks have was or Margot read the aura. Linda book. Well, no, I haven’t, Morgoth.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> No, I don’t know what it is.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I am aware of the tortill, Mike. I’ve spoken to him in private and I’ve read some of his essays as well. So maybe I have, I don’t know.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Okay. Sorry. Privilege. Shit. Lord, we can’t give a more decisive answer. Orthodoxy. What did Woznborglas think of the film Silent Green, given it was a 70s film which reflects the disillusionment of 60s fetish for technology? Well, I actually haven’t seen it unbelievably enough.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, I have seen it, and if you go on my own device channel you will discover that we spoke about it for a few hours for a classic movie stream. So I’ve already uncovered Soylent Green in depth on a live stream. I think it’s on endeavours channel. But, yeah, we were very invested in it. The most amazing thing is, of course, that with the new laws in Canada, the idea of giving you a pretty picture as they euthanize you is now here, they’re now doing it again. It is a purely technocratic mindset behind it. Check it out. It’s either on Morgoth endeavours, classic movies. Soy and Green. It’s right there. It’s there.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Thank you. All right. Abel’s candor. Says Dad’s birthday tonight. Can’t make the stream. He’s 82 today. Born 1940. 99% of what we hate in our country has come in since then, all in one lifetime. Morgoth versus Woes is the conversation of the year. You two are the absolute champs. Thank you to both of you for what you do for all of us. Thank you very much. That’s a very kind comment, and it’s nice to know that one’s work is valued. And as you say, it’s an amazing thing to think that if you could go back to 1940, I mean, everything would be radically different in ways that you can’t even guess at, things that you wouldn’t even think of the ways that people talk to each other, the ways that they dress, the rules, the conventions that govern everyday life. It would be incredible. And I dare say that we would struggle to fit in, but that’s a sign of decline. The fact that we would struggle when I think of how the British people were betrayed, when I look at these old photos of London, I just think these crowds of people, I think of the betrayal that was just down the line, just about to happen. It fills me with sadness, not even rage. It fills me with sadness to think of these good people being just utterly screwed over, utterly in the most evil, mendacious way. Horrible. So, yeah, I agree, it’s quite amazing how much change has happened in a single person’s lifetime. But happy birthday to your father nonetheless. Okay. Irish nationalist media, they do not kill us because there are too many of us. There are a lot more of us than you think. If they tried to kill our thought and political leaders, it would be civil war, and they know it. So they try to suppress us without backing us into a corner. Only people with information from within the elite get whacked. Morgoth.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, I agree. It’s a matter of how to get there. I agree. All right. Doggerland Joe. A kind donation. Thank you. I’d like to apologize for repeating this point so often recently, but we absolutely must support each other to the highest of our abilities. To do so, we need not be the saviour or the enemy of all, but we must be the strength of our own. Thank you, gentlemen, for everything you do. Well, I certainly agree with you on that. I think that we should stick together. We should support each other. We should encourage each other. There shouldn’t be infighting or bitching or back biting. It doesn’t help anyone but our enemies. This is a very common refrain in my work. I’ve been trying to encourage that attitude for years. There are people, unfortunately, who aren’t amenable to that attitude, but they are a minority. I think that most people want a successful cohesive community. So I would just echo what Dogland Joe has said there. Margot, do you have anything to say there?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> No. Really? That seems reasonable.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Okay. Vingul, shout out to the old Morgoth video and old to Laura Trott. I remember that one very well.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Interesting. All right. That’s nice to know. And thank you, Van Gogh, for that generous Superchat. Siemer, thanks for your work. To the both of you. Thank you very much. You’re welcome. Fredera Del chair. I really think about that gremlin in Gremlins too, that drinks the brain enhancement portion. When I listen to Morgoth, at times he’s a working class man, but he has the words to articulate what he’s feeling, unlike most of us. Well, that’s an interesting analogy, Morgoth. I don’t think this person meant any offence by that. I think they meant quite the opposite.</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I was going to say the Laura Trott video was actually originally then you can still go back on the original Morgoth Review blog. Blog, blog, which people forget these days, but there’s 500 articles in the early years. The thing is, this year I went back to substance and people came saying, oh, we missed the videos and everything and yeah, I get it. But originally I was a blogger. I have just gone back to blogging like I always did. Even the Lore Trod video was like one of the first that I did with help from Ferbaton, who was a bit more kind of savvy with video making. But the theme of the Laura Chart video, which is caste, was originally a blog post, was just this idea that you watch your own kin sort of emerge from the nondescript biomass of what the Olympic Games, that kind of recognition that there’s a person there that belongs to you, that you have a connection there. What globalism does and what globalism wants is to kind of destroy that. So if you look at the globalist, the Olympic Games is a perfect example of it. But now it’s much worse than what I originally wrote. That video, the script and whatnot because it’s based on the assumption that you don’t have that kind of connection. So if you look at the Olympic Games and it’s just people from everywhere at all times. And then in the case of Laura Trott, I recognized immediately that she is from my group. She is my people, genetically, spiritually, culturally, religiously, historically, of my kin. When I watched the Olympics, this is a good bit back, I think it was like 2015 or something. But still, just to see her emerging through this kind of swamp of otherness and I was like, she just looked so beautiful. It wasn’t just in the kind of something because she is very pretty. It was more than that. It was more like on a deep level, this is my home here. This is the female of my if you want to be purely kind of Darwinian and materialistic mode, this is the female version of my group. This is the female of my genetic phenotype. If you want or if you want to be an idealist about it, this is the form that I recognize, which is just purely perfect, which I view as the form of female, which fits me best amongst all of these people from the Third World and everywhere else. So it was on multiple different levels. There was something happening there. But in every scenario you can imagine, globalism was the enemy because it is incontrovertible. But Laura Trophies kind of a connection there as to somebody watching the TV.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Yeah, of course I understood that. There was a phrase in the article which I can’t remember now, but it says what you’ve just said that you recognize someone of your own kind, someone of the same ingredients. It was a lovely article. Okay, noticer in chief says here’s nearly 8 hours of insightful chat for millennial. Eight. Thank you gentlemen. Well, it’s nearly 7 hours. I doubt very much that we’ll go for 8 hours. I think we’re both beginning to get a bit worse for where but nonetheless, thank you very much for that. There’s something I want to mention earlier when you were talking about Andrew Tate is that while we’ve been talking he has been arrested for human trafficking or something that’s happened. Defiant Irishman Morgoth. Do you do any winter could fishing living in the northeast? Winter could fishing?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I keep telling you where they are and they don’t get it. I went up for a paint last week when we made and I don’t know if it’s a kind of cool because right now it’s actually seven degrees in the northeast. I’m just looking at my computer there and that’s actually not that cool at all. And he was saying like, these people from he always tells a story where all these Canadians came over and they’re used to, like-15, degrees, but they came to the northeast of England and they couldn’t cope because it was like this dampness that just crept into their bruins and it’s worse, even though it’s like five degrees or whatever. It’s worse than having like minus ten in Canada or-15 in Canada. It sounds like a bit of a call, but if I’m honest, I actually do prefer just to have snow or frost than the damp, kind of drizzly kind of shit that we get in north of England and Scotland, where it’s just all purveyors of not freezing, but cold dampness that just seems to crawl at the very marrow of your bones. It’s kind of weird. I get that it’s not name it’s 15, I get that it’s not always I see outside, but there’s something about it where you think, I wish it would just freeze instead of this kind of insipid cooled wetness, which kind of sinks into everything. It’s fucking awful.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Another upbeat monologue from Morgoth. There. Okay. Defiant Irishman responds in a dismissive tone to you saying that you’re too soft to go cold. Winter could fishing. All right. Barther says hello to both of you. Great show. I work in the grains market. I mainly deal with wheat, soybeans and corn. I expect the prices of grains to go a lot higher in 2023. Higher grain prices will lead to higher meat prices. Beef, pork, chicken. I hope you’re preparing for this. God bless you all. Well, this is why the ideal would be to have one’s own farmstead, so that you could be independent from this bullshit to at least a great extent. Yeah, I think that this is good advice. I hope that a good number of my viewers are able to follow this advice. We all need to prepare however we can. It does seem like tough times are ahead. Again, I would refer people to the Andrew Anglin thread that I linked earlier. I’ll link again now. Hold on a second. If he’s correct, then it’s going to be pretty bloody bad. Hold on a second. I’ve got to open the video. All right, here we go. Hold on a second. There that thread. Okay, so, Halenzian, this is the last one. Hellenzian says, what do you think is the idea of moving large numbers of dissidents into one village or town to take it over and show people a different way? The trouble with that idea is that you’re talking about dissidents. So it would be like herding cats, and there are a lot of dissidents that I fucking wouldn’t want to live anywhere near. People who hate me, people who attack me, all the rest of it. So I would pity any sane person who was stuck in the same place with them. Honestly. I’m sorry to say that, but it’s a thing people who are attracted to radical politics, French are often disagreeable people and like herding cats. That’s all I’ll say about that. The other thing is, I tend to think that it’s better to mix with apolitical people because, yes, they’ve got their heads full of a lot of bollocks, but on the other hand, it’s sort of milk toasted. They’re less spiky, they’re less aggressive, they’re less antisocial than a lot of people with fervent political convictions. And that’s more persuadable, perhaps. Morgoth?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, yeah, you’re going to run into the problem where it depends on how you classify distance. Let’s just take a sole take on this, which would be you always play down your power level, you always act sensibly. You are just normal people and you just happen to be moving into, let’s just say, scunthorpe. So on the surface, nothing is actually happening. You’re just a bunch of people who enjoy scunthorpe and you want to just be normal and you want to be centrists. And by centrist it means this beNAME language of protect, because I know where he’s coming from. Let’s just adopt the full glare kind of methodology here, where it’s like, okay, well, it’s not that we’re opposed to immigration per se. We just want to protect the flavour of the town. And what do the actual people say? Oh, it just turns out the people, they support us as well. It’s got nothing to do with immigration. It’s just not protecting the flavour of the town. And hey, look at this. The majority of the town want to protect the flavour of the town and because they all secretly get it as well. And so the local politics is kind of skewered and walked in a certain direction even though it’s underhanded. And then you get the other and it’s like, well, we’re going to march in and we’re going to call this the Ethanol state of scunthorpe. And we’re going to seize all of the private property, and then we’re going to put it to use and we’re going to turn women where women are now not allowed to work anymore. And we’re going to say, well, if you don’t, we’re going to adopt the Social Credit system because China is based and we’re going to do this all within our little scoop for Socialist Republic of Ethno Purity, which is also based on National Socialist principles. And we’re going to be proud about this. We’re going to have banners and everybody’s going to be based and it’s going to just not happen.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Is it? Yeah. Well, you have to be realistic. As I’ve said before, the kinds of people who make things happen in the real world are currently doing things in the real world, making things happen. They’re not involved in dissident politics, more’s the pity. I wish they were. And this is actually something that Academic Agent mentioned last night as one of the reasons for him pushing sensible centrism, because he wants to attract people exactly the types of people who aren’t attracted to fringe politics. He wants to get people who are accomplished, well balanced, sane, sensible, reasonable, so that we can actually start getting things done in the real world. Now, I think that’s a laudable aim. I voiced some concerns about that approach earlier. I don’t really care. I don’t want to piss on it at all. I think he is correct that we have to if this movement, if you want to call it that, if this community is going to achieve things in the real world, then it has to become less deranged. All this fucking nonsense that goes on on Twitter and Telegram looking for fights, this crabs in the bucket mentality, all of that has to end. And anyone who’s pushing that stuff and engineering it needs to be ejected. So we do need more functional, more reasonable, more worldly people on site before we’ll have practical results. But I also think that that’s probably going to happen because the world is going to get pretty shit and I think people will be looking the worst things get, and I’m not saying, oh, there’s going to reach a certain threshold, critical mass and then ideas will be mainstream. That could happen. But what I’m thinking is more likely is that the worse things get, the more people there will be from the mainstream who are looking for something else, something different that they can get involved with. Because right now it’s still at the stage where they can have their nice job, live in their nice village and just pretend that nothing is really wrong with the world and say that if it is wrong, if there is something wrong with the world, it only happens to the Chad girls and Robin anyway. So it’s not my problem. Well, I think as things spread, as dysfunction spreads, as it surely will, given the way that the government is behaving, I think you’ll get more of those types who simply can’t run away anymore. And when that does happen, I think it’s important that we don’t hold it against them that they took a long time to come around. There are some people now who attack people for not getting covered right at the start. That kind of a mentality is just fucking stupid. Again, it’s another dysfunctional attitude that doesn’t fucking help anyone. So all of this stuff we need to get over. Morgoth. Are you falling asleep?</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> I didn’t think it would go on for 7 hours. I thought maybe similar to last year, four and a half, maybe 5 hours. But we’ve completely destroyed that record, haven’t we?</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah. It’s not going to happen next year when I’m in the middle of the schedule and it’s like a two hour little kind of normal kind of in and out. Is there any more questions? Because this is like a seven hour stream. It’s enough.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> No, there aren’t any other questions. And if I’ve missed any, it will let me know. Now, I don’t think I have. I think I’ve gone through them all quite carefully. Oh, my God.</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> Defiant Irishman with a follow up to his fishing question says I remember once top fishing in a 36 foot boat about 5 miles off the North Angle Sea coast in 30 miles per hour wind and being absolutely frozen solid and wet through. This was in June. We caught fish, though bad weather isn’t so bad when you’re catching fish? Well, it’s something I have no experience of, but I can believe you, and I take your word for it, Morgoth. Is bad weather so bad when you’re catching fish?</p>
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<p><strong>Woes:</strong> All right. Okay. We’re 1 minute away from 7 hours. Okay. Well, this has been a fucking blockbuster stream, I think this is apart from that quino casino one that I did a couple of months ago, this is the longest stream that I’ve done in years.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>John Friend</strong> from &#8220;<strong><em>The Realist Report</em></strong>&#8221; interviews (Sept, 2018) <strong>Christopher Bollyn,</strong> the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;<em><strong>Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World</strong></em>&#8221; and his latest book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Also, how Israel, and its agents, and shabbos goys, were able to carry out 9-11 with such audacity, due to their assured control over six crucial elements, namely: <strong>law enforcement</strong>, <strong>mass media</strong>, <strong>litigation</strong>, <strong>security</strong>, <strong>government</strong>, and the <strong>military</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Christopher Bollyn&#8217;s work proves beyond any doubt that 9-11 was carried out by organized jewry through Israel and zionists within the US, to create their &#8220;<em>War on Terror</em>&#8220;, aka, &#8220;<strong><em>War OF Terror</em></strong>&#8220;, in order to justify the smashing of Arab countries, and others, as part of a scheme to create a &#8220;<em>Greater Israel</em>&#8221; domination over the Middle East, as well as their larger New World Order agenda involving the further subjugation of all White countries.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined by <a class="external" href="http://bollyn.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><strong>Christopher Bollyn</strong></a>, an investigative journalist, author, and long-time 9/11 researcher. Chris and I focus on his recently published book <a class="external" href="https://www.amazon.com/War-Terror-Plot-Rule-Middle/dp/0985322543" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><strong><em>The War on Terror: The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong></a> and the origins of the Jewish-concocted “Global War on Terror”. We also discuss the 9/11 Truth movement, Bollyn’s <a class="external" href="http://bollyn.com/#article_16085" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><strong>Memo to President Trump</strong></a>, and other matters relating to 9/11 and the “Global War on Terror”.</p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> All right folks, welcome back to another edition of <strong>The Realist Report</strong>. This is your host <strong>John Friend</strong>. The website is The Realist Report dot com, where you will find an extensive archive of these podcasts, as well as other programs I’ve appeared on as a guest over the years. You will also find all of my blog posts and articles. A contact page, my Twitter feed, which is embedded in the right hand sidebar of the website, and many other useful and important links. I am a regular reporter for American Free Press, America’s last real newspaper. And I also contribute to the Barnes Review, the bi-monthly history magazine affiliated with <em><strong>American Free Press</strong></em>. I encourage listeners to subscribe to these fine print publications. Check out American Free Press dot net, and Barnes Review dot org for more details.</p>
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<p>Okay, with that said, let me introduce my special guest this evening. Tonight we are joined by <strong>Christopher Bollyn!</strong> An investigative journalist, author, and long time 9/11 researcher. Chris and I will be focusing on 9/11 primarily and his recently published book “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”, which is available from Amazon dot com..</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Thank you John. It’s nice to be with you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. Yes, this is good. I’m glad that we could talk. I’ve been wanting to interview you for a number of years. Your work has been very influential on my thinking, especially about 9/11 and the Global War on Terrorism, and American foreign policy. And really what’s kind of going on in the world, especially in the Middle East.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <strong><a style="color: #008000;" href="http://therealistreport.com/christopher-bollyn-explains-who-really-did-911/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Christopher Bollyn explains who really did 9/11 at the San Diegans for 9/11 Truth meet up group on Sunday, September 9, 2018.</a></strong></span></p>
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<p>So on that, it’s great to actually sit down and talk. I went down to San Diego a couple weekends ago and heard you give a very fine presentation about your book. You focused primarily on your book. So it was great. And I wanted you to maybe kind of comment on your speaking tour. I know you’re on a mini one right now, from what I understand. And you’ve spoken at the 9/11 Truth group in the past as well. So could you kind of talk about your current speaking tour?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes, I’m on a really short tour as you said. I was invited to speak in Texas, in San Antonio, and then I came to, I was invited also to speak at the San Diego<span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [9/11]</strong></span> Truth group. Which is one of the best truth groups in the United States. A very active group with a lot of outreach and regular events. And that was on the ninth of September. And now I have two events left in Seattle, on the twentieth, and the twenty-second of the month, in northern Seattle at libraries. And that’ll be it for this tour.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s based, as you said, on my book “<em><strong>Solving 9/11 — The Deception That Changed the World</strong></em>”, … not that one, but the “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”, the shorter book, that came out in 2017. Because it’s very urgent at the commemoration of the September eleventh, every year.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But now, it’s very important for Americans to understand what the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is all about! And why we are engaged in this, now seventeen year old war, and why we have spent something like seven trillion dollars, as President Trump said a little while ago, in seventeen years and got nothing for it! And so, Americans need to understand that we are in a deceitful and fraudulent war! And that’s what my speaking tour is all about.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes, absolutely! And you mentioned the <strong>San Diegans for 9/11 Truth</strong> group, and I did want to briefly talk about them, because that was really how I kind of got into all of this! I went to one of their meet ups and you’re right they have got to be, … I’ve never really dealt with other 9/11 Truth groups around the country, but I’d be willing to bet everything that I have, that they are definitely one of the most organized, motivated, you know, dedicated, and professional 9/11 Truth groups out there! And you can probably attest to this. I’m sure you’ve dealt with some other 9/11 Truth groups.</p>
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<p>So I really want to kind of just tip my hat to them. They always put on a monthly meet up. They usually have a speaker to come in and present, and screen a documentary, and then have a Q &amp; A afterwards. So they really do a really good job!</p>
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<p>And I was talking to <strong>Adam Green</strong>, a mutual friend, just last night, and he’s kind of involved in the <strong>San Diegans for 9/11 Truth</strong> group. And it’s really just refreshing knowing that there are other people out there that really do care about this topic, and are doing something, you know, proactive and productive, to kind of get the word out there. So, I kind of want to just say that, as we start here.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah! They were actually the first group to invite me to speak, and I went there in the fall of 2014. And I’ve been back several times since. And yeah, they’re great! They have outreach. They have an outreach once a month, or so, in downtown San Diego, right across from the USS Midway, where it’s berthed. And they reach out to the public and try to educate the public, which is what this is all about! Educating the public about 9/11 and the war on terror.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. And you’ve been covering 9/11 really from the day that it happened. And I want to kind of talk about your research over the years, and have your main conclusions changed, or sort of evolved over the years? Or did you kind of, because almost like, right off the bat, you were talking about the Israeli connections. You know, the individuals that were arrested in New York City on the day that 9/11 happened. So, I guess, what are your main conclusions, and how they kind of evolved over the years?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. That’s a good question. Well, I was fortunate, if you will, to have been on the East Coast when 9/11 happened. I was actually in New York City early on the day. I was a writer, like you, for <strong>American Free Press</strong>, at the time. And so that was my job. And when 9/11 happened, I was on my way back to Washington DC, after a weekend up in Vermont. And the Pentagon was struck, I couldn’t go there, so I called the office and said I’m heading back for Chicago with my family. You know, I couldn’t go to Washington, I couldn’t stay in the East Coast.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I, you know, my specialty, I’d worked for American Free Press for over a year when this started, so I had, you know, I started writing journalistic articles. And the first thing that struck me was that there were important aspects of 9/11 that were being blocked, or were omitted from the official government, or the media narrative.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And those were, most conspicuously, the reports of explosions that people saw and heard. And then there was this story, which was my first story actually, about these five dancing Israelis, we call them, who were Israeli citizens, who were seen, observing, and photographing, and celebrating the attack on the World Trade Center, from across the Hudson River. The Hudson at East River there, on the Jersey side, just a stone throw from the World Trade Center. And that became my first article..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as a writer for American Free Press, I was allowed and able to, I was encouraged to, to continue my research and to write about this. And with the evidence of Israeli prior knowledge of 9/11 attacks, I began with the hypothesis that this could be a false flag attack. An Israeli operation, that was meant to be blamed on Muslims! And blamed on Arabs! In order to increase US, American hostility in the Middle East against these foes of Israel, the Arabs, and Muslims..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And with that hypothesis I started doing research and articles, and weeks became months, became years. But the hypothesis remained and was validated by what I discovered, as time went by. And so, after a couple of years, it became not my hypothesis anymore, but really my thesis!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then finally, in 2012, I published the book “<strong><em>Solving 9/11 — The Deception That Changed the World</em></strong>”, and it’s companion volume “<strong><em>Solving 9/11 — The Original Articles</em></strong>”, which contains my articles that were published originally in the American Free Press, in chronological order. So people can see how this how this hypothesis developed into a thesis and developed into my book..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, just last year, 2017 in August, I published a little book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. I wrote this as a very small, concise, volume that can be shared with people. Because this is very important that Americans understand how 9/11 fits into the “<em>War on Terror</em>” logic! Because really, that’s what happened, is that the “<em>War on Terror</em>” was a preexisting construct that needed a “<em>spark plug</em>” to make it operational! And that “<em>spark plug</em>” was 9/11!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes, exactly! And as you kind of explained there, right off the bat, there were all these Israeli connections that you were highlighting and writing about, but they weren’t getting a lot of coverage in the mainstream certainly. And it’s interesting how you were sort of thinking:</p>
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<p>And ironically enough, these guys ever arrested in New York — you can find the police reports from the East Rutherford Police Department, publicly available online. This is no secret. This is no, you know, crazy, outlandish conspiracy theory, or something! This is very well documented, very easy to demonstrate, and easy to verify for yourself. You know, they were arrested by these local police officers. And they’re sitting there telling them:</p>
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<p>So right off the bat, you know, they’re almost trying to frame this entire thing on Arabs, on Muslims in general. So I mean, that should be a red flag right away to anybody that sat down and read that document. And secondly, why are these Israelis being arrested? They’re obviously tied into what was going on. Why was this not given more coverage? And interestingly, it actually was covered in the mainstream media at the time, but it was quickly downplayed, and kind of swept under the rug, as you well know.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes! Yes, there was, it was written about in New Jersey, in a paper called “<strong><em>The Bergen Record</em></strong>” by a journalist named Paulo Lima. And I contacted Mr Lima after 9/11, a day, or two afterwards, and talked to him about the article. Because it came out, I believe, September twelfth, in this New Jersey paper. But oddly enough, as you said, the story did not cross the river and get published in the New York papers. Because when Ted Koppel on September eleventh, he came on the air, I believe it was Ted Koppel, and he said that, about noon, or twelve thirty, he said that:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when it was discovered that these five men were Middle Eastern, but were also “<em>Israelis</em>”, then there was no interest in the media to repeat this story. So it remained in the “<strong><em>Bergen Record</em></strong>” for one day, or so, and then got pushed under the under the carpet, so to speak. But it became the essence of my first article that was printed that week after 9/11, in American Free Press.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Interesting. Yeah, that’s incredible! That you were right there to start talking about this, and covering it. And it wasn’t only the <em><strong>Bergen Record</strong></em>. I mean, I don’t know the exact time frame, but I know in the months, and maybe a year, or so, after 9/11, there were a number of mainstream articles that were written about this massive Israeli espionage operation, that had been unraveled and uncovered leading up to 9/11.</p>
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<p>And even on 9/11 itself! If I’m not mistaken, there was well over one hundred Israeli agents that were involved in this. And many of them were, in fact, arrested and deported back to Israel. What do you know about this broader network of Israeli spies that were operating all across the country? There are indications that they may have been tracking, or monitoring some of the alleged hijackers. Could you kind of demystify this a little bit?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well that’s the DEA investigation. The Drug Enforcement Agency investigation that was done, in which they found these so-called Israeli “<em>art students</em>” who were, you know, snooping around and trying to gain access to DEA offices, and even going to the homes of the DEA agents. And the DEA did a report that was leaked, that gave the names and talked about these people, these Israelis. As you said, it was over a hundred..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But also, there was, shortly after 9/11, there were reports in the New York media, and other media, about Israelis that were picked up here, and here, and here, and here! And so there were numerous reports of various Israeli gangs, or cells, being arrested with trucks that were exploding, bombs, and various things by the Holland Tunnel.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21084" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1.png" alt="" width="960" height="1139" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1.png 960w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1-253x300.png 253w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1-768x911.png 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1-863x1024.png 863w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Click image to enlarge]</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, I called the Israeli Embassy in that week after 9/11, and asked them. I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“By my calculations, this is like ten, twenty, thirty, you know, thirty Israelis involved in this, have been arrested.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Is that true?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they said, I think I gave a number like sixty, or something. They said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“At least! At least that number have been arrested.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So there’s, when you calculate in all these various “<em>art students</em>” and things, yes it was hundreds of Israelis who were involved in this operation! Many of whom, who had been arrested on, shortly after 9/11, or on 9/11 itself.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes! And there is a very well produced Fox News investigative series into all of this, that was published and ran by Fox News. It was quickly taken off their website, I know. You can still find it on YouTube. It’s the infamous Carl Cameron investigative series* into all of these Israeli spies that were again, basically uncovered and arrested by our own government, by the federal government, by the DEA, the FBI!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[* <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k43_NKYs50">Four Part Series Carl Cameron Israeli Spies in US</a>]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, it’s really quite astonishing that we have all of this very legitimate, valid information, tying all of these Israelis into what was going on, on 9/11. And again, it’s just kind of swept down the memory hole, essentially..</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I did have a question, just to kind of get some clarification. The Israeli spies that were investigated, and in many cases arrested, by the DEA and by the FBI, were a lot of these spies tied in to the people in New York City, involved with Urban Moving Systems? Which was another Mossad front, essentially.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:50]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. As you said, the five dancing Israelis, and others who were arrested in New York, were nominally, or were employees of this Urban Moving Systems, in Weehawken, in New Jersey. Which, as Carl Cameron, or Fox News, you know, they went to investigate this a little bit too. This was a front! And it was a front for the Mossad. And that revelation came from an FBI person, to “<strong><em>Forward</em></strong>” newspaper, which is the jewish newspaper in New York, which printed that, I think, in March of 2002, or something like that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-Dominik-Suter-Urban-Moving-Systems.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21074" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-Dominik-Suter-Urban-Moving-Systems.jpg" alt="" width="1152" height="963" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that, this group of Israelis, all these Israelis who were caught in connection to 9/11, were employees of <strong>Dominik Suter’s</strong>, <strong>Urban Moving Systems</strong>, in Weehawken, New Jersey. Which was an Israeli intelligence front, which was not really a valid moving company at all, but was actually a front!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And there were American employees who worked there, who noticed that on 9/11, the Israelis who worked at Urban Moving Systems, were jubilant! And were very happy with the attacks of 9/11! Like those five dancing Israelis. And the Americans couldn’t understand it. That they were in tears, they were crying, and these Israelis were like celebrating! Which was for them, really, you know, they’re celebrating a job well done! They had they succeeded in their criminal plot!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! It’s really amazing knowing that there is all this proof tying Israel, &#8230; That’s what’s so incredible to me! It’s like, when I was first getting into 9/11 truth, rather than even trying to get involved with all the kind of more complicated information relating to 9/11, why aren’t we just out telling people:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Look! Our own government investigated what was going on, and they arrested the people that were tied into what took place on 9/11. And they weren’t Muslims from the Middle East! They were Israeli spies! And we can easily prove this!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Yeah, that is the whole point, you see. And so you say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“How did the Israelis go ahead forward with this operation in New York City, and get caught with so many of these people with their involvement in 9/11? How did they have the audacity? How did they have, … why did they go forward with this plot?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the answer to that is, because they knew that they had protection within the law enforcement of the United States of America! Because the person who was responsible for the investigation of 9/11, was himself an Israeli spy! That was Michael Chertoff, who was the Assistant Attorney General under John Ashcroft. And he was the Attorney General responsible for the criminal division of the Department of Justice. And beneath him, the FBI serves as the agency that provides the evidence and the information that he needs to prosecute the case.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And under Michael Chertoff there was, in fact, no real investigation, because the evidence was being destroyed from day one! And there was no prosecution! And he’s the one who oversaw the release of these Israelis who were arrested, sent back to Israel, on visa violations, within two months after 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[18:56]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! Nothing to see here, guys! We’re just going to deport these prime suspects in what took place on 9/11, back to Israel! Nothing to see here! Yep, it’s pretty incredible when you stop and think about it..</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I want to talk more about, like you have an article on your website, “<a href="http://www.bollyn.com/#article_16099"><em>The Key zionist Control Points of 9/11</em></a>” <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>. </strong></span>I kind of want to focus on that for just a minute. Before we do that, I want to ask you, could you maybe just like summarize your overall views of 9/11? If you had to, like explain it like an average American, you how would you go about explaining 9/11 to them?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21076" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg" alt="" width="719" height="574" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg 719w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin-300x239.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 719px) 100vw, 719px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well, that 9/11 was a hoax, a false flag operation, that was done by Israeli intelligence, military intelligence primarily, I believe. And the purpose was to was to start the “<em>War on Terror</em>”!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the “<em>War on Terror</em>” itself, is really a construct that goes back to, about 1979, July, when <strong>Menachem Begin</strong> then the Prime Minister of Israel, organized a conference in Jerusalem. Some conference about international terrorism under the auspices of Netanyahu family, Benjamin, and his father, Benzion. And they had this propaganda offensive, where they rolled out “<em>international terrorism</em>” as the new global bogeyman.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this “<em>War on Terror</em>” that&#8217;s been promoted for decades until — and it was like a bonfire he was trying to light, but it wouldn’t light without the proper fuel. And the fuel that was necessary to ignite and make, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> And that’s what brought the United States militarily into the Middle East, waging war against Israel’s enemies! </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21071" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military.jpg" alt="" width="834" height="625" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military.jpg 834w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military-300x225.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 834px) 100vw, 834px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this is all, you know, the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is based on a strategy that Israel has, called, the “<em>Yinon Plan</em>” to basically fragment, to conquer, to destroy the militaries of the strong Arab nations, like Iraq, and Syria, and then to balkanize, or break up those countries into ethnic statelets! Which is what’s currently being done. And all of this is, you know, now the “<em>War on Terror</em>” has become America’s longest war, longest foreign war, and most expensive in US history!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21033" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg" alt="" width="738" height="924" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg 738w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force-240x300.jpg 240w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px" /></a></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[21:23]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh yeah! It’s incredible how much money we’ve spent! I just put it together, an article yesterday, a blog post over on the Realist Report dot com. And even like mainstream reports put the price tag at like, four trillion dollars, I think it is! And some estimates are even higher! It’s just incredible how much money we spent since 9/11, prosecuting this fraudulent global war on terrorism, that’s totally against America’s national interests! And, of course, totally for the interests of Israel, and the wider international jewish community. Certainly in the Middle East it’s just such a big scam, it’s truly outrageous!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I wanted to talk about the key control points of 9/11. And you outlined this very well, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yup.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> In an article on your website. And really this is, what all of your books are really all about, is kind of explaining how they were able to do 9/11. Because that was what was so kind of just baffling to me! Once I realized the official narrative, the official conspiracy theory, and that is what it is, the official story of 9/11, is itself a conspiracy theory. But the official narrative was just full of holes, it didn’t make sense. It was obviously fraudulent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I was just dumbfounded how it could actually be carried out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21081" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="680" height="971" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg 680w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> And I think once you realize that all their key players were in positions of influence to facilitate it, and to make it happen, and to cover it up, it really starts making more sense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the key points you have here, are:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>The control of law enforcement.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21068" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement.jpg" alt="" width="834" height="626" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement.jpg 834w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 834px) 100vw, 834px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>The control of the criminal investigation.</strong> You mentioned Michael Chertoff. He was the number two in the Justice Department, I believe you said. So, they were responsible for covering it up basically, and not doing an authentic genuine investigation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21069" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation.jpg" alt="" width="833" height="625" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation.jpg 833w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And really their goal was to avoid prosecuting the culprits, many of whom, again we arrested that day, and in the weeks afterwards, a lot of these Israeli spies. So they controlled the law enforcement aspect. And that the criminal investigation into it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Of course, they control the mass media.</strong> And you have a point here, you mentioned Philip Zelikow who was responsible for the, was it the 9/11 Commission report he was in charge of?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21070" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media.jpg" alt="" width="833" height="624" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media.jpg 833w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media-300x225.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> And this is like the official “<em>myth of 9/11</em>”, the way the public understands 9/11. The way it’s officially, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Interpreted.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Interpreted! Yeah! Exactly by the government, by the mass media. And here’s Philip Zelikow, this hard-line zionist. I don’t know if he’s a dual citizen, but he’s definitely jewish, and definitely has ties to the international jewish community. So of course, you know, they control the mass media.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>They control the litigation</strong>, after the fact, with US Judge Alvin Hellerstein.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21072" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security.jpg" alt="" width="833" height="625" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security.jpg 833w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>They controlled the security at the World Trade Center, and at the various airports.</strong> And, in fact, the buildings themselves, the World Trade Center complex, was basically sold to Larry Silverstein, who is obviously a jewish individual, who has ties to Israel and the broader international jewish community. In the way, that even the way that the World Trade Center complex was privatized was like this zionist criminal conspiracy, essentially, right? I mean, yeah, the way they went about selling it to Silverstein, it was clearly like this insight deal, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[24:42]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. It was very much so. And it’s important to note that <strong>Larry Silverstein</strong> had a very close relationship with Mr Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel. They would speak every Sunday afternoon on the phone, for years prior to 9/11, all the way through. And so, what we’re talking about? This was part of the setting up of the operation.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, as you said, then in the summer of 2001, the World Trade Center, which was basically publicly owned property — belonging to the Port Authority of New York, New Jersey — it was sold. It was negotiated and sold to <strong>Larry Silverstein</strong>. This was a very convoluted process.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20732" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office.jpg" alt="" width="696" height="985" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office.jpg 696w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office-212x300.jpg 212w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But Larry Silverstein and the head of the Port Authority at that time, Louis Eisenberg, were themselves both directors of the zionist fundraising out organization called, “<em>The UJA Federation of New York</em>”, the United jewish Appeal Federation of New York. Larry Silverstein was the Honorary National Chairman, he had been the National Chairman, in that position, and Louis Eisenberg was on the planning board of the UJA Federation.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, these two men, the ones who oversaw the transfer of the property of the World Trade Center to Larry Silverstein, they were both brothers in arms on the UJA, which is the biggest fund-raising organization for the state of Israel, in the United States.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> So these individuals were like, heavily involved, key players, not only in like American-jewish affairs, but really on an international scale, right? I mean, they had ties to Israel, they had ties to their cousins over in Europe, ex cetera. So, I mean, these guys were major players. And just that the way that it was transferred to Silverstein’s control, just right before 9/11! I mean, how obvious could they make it, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah it’s really just, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> In your face like, suspicious!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. He got the property I think, on July 24th.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! It was just a few months before 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> It was five weeks!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh okay! Jeez! Well yeah, I guess it was. Yes, I mean, it was like, right before 9/11! And then, of course, he takes out these insurance policies, protecting him against “<em>acts of terrorism</em>”. And, of course, that’s exactly what 9/11 was! So he’s, I don’t know exactly what the numbers are, I’ve written about it a few times over the years for <em><strong>American Free Press</strong></em>, in fact. And I think the guy’s got, I mean, I don’t know what it is, but he’s made a ton of money off of this scam!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> He should <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[unclear]</strong></span> for the insurance fraud!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. He put down a hundred million dollars of borrowed money, and got back something like five billion dollars! Five thousand million dollars in awards. And yeah, Larry Silverstein is clearly one of the people that is tied into this terrible operation. And he’s the guy that owned all three buildings that fell that day. He’s the person who told public television that he ordered building “<em>to pull it</em>”, regarding building seven</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[WTC 7]</strong></span>. <span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“And I watched the building come down.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as the owner and the beneficiary of this insurance policy, in which, this was the first time in history, that this clause pertaining to terrorist attacks, was ever used in insurance history! So I mean, yeah this guy deserves to be thoroughly investigated!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[28:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh yeah! Exactly. <strong>Well, moving on, you also point out here that government, the zionist control of really the Bush administration, but key positions in the Bush administration.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20716" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government.jpg" alt="" width="835" height="627" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government.jpg 835w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government-768x577.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 835px) 100vw, 835px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All of the neo-cons, like in the Pentagon, for example. Could you elaborate on this a little bit? Key positions that these zionists, and a lot of them were dual citizens, had in the Bush administration that, kind of facilitated 9/11?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. Well, the thing is that every person in the Bush administration, like Cheney, and Bush himself, Condoleezza Rice, and what have you. These people all had advisors, high level advisors. You know, the second person chief of staff, what have you, who were zionist neo-cons! Like Philip Zelikow, the person who wrote the executive Commission, who was the director, executive director, and the person who actually wrote this fraudulent White Paper, that covered 9/11. He was Condoleezza Rice’s senior counsel! He was her adviser. And then there was Libby, was the advisor to Cheney. Rumsfeld had a deputy called Paul Wolfowitz. And Bush had an advisor.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, all of the Bush administration was supported by these zionist neo-cons, who were basically “<em>Israel Firsters</em>” and this organization also.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">These zionist neo-cons, they were the people who were at the Defense Policy Board. And the Defense Policy Board is this group of appointed people who craft the policy for the Pentagon. And as I said, the Deputy Secretary of Defense was Paul Wolfowitz. And there was Rabbi Zakkai, who was the comptroller at the Pentagon, when something like two point one trillion dollars went missing, it was announced the day before 9/11. And Douglas Feith, and people like that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And these are the people who created the policy calling for the United States to overthrow seven countries in five years! And this was the memo that was discovered, you know, it was revealed in the Pentagon by <strong>General Wesley Clark</strong>. He discovered this memo circulating in the Pentagon, just a few days after 9/11. So it called for the United States to go to the Middle East and overthrow seven countries in five years! And that is exactly what we have been doing for the past seventeen years!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20726" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg" alt="" width="887" height="672" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg 887w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years-300x227.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years-768x582.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 887px) 100vw, 887px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. Exactly! Well and to make it even worse, we had Ehud Barak, who is a long time, top Israeli political, and I think he was also a general, if I’m not mistaken. But he this big time Israeli politician. Was the prime minister, defense minister. And on the day of 9/11 he is on the BBC being interviewed. And he basically explains the whole, what’s going to happen. You know, this is an attack by al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, he says. And now is the time for America and the wider Western world see to unite and engage in this struggle to defeat radical Islamic terrorism! And he names a number of countries, many of which General Wesley Clark exposed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it was very clear that they had this preconceived agenda, and 9/11 was just used to justify it. Into, really not only justify it, but like institutionalize it as our official US foreign policy! And that’s exactly what has happened in the aftermath, and still carries on to this very day!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right and <strong>Ehud Barak</strong> was, at the time, Israel’s most decorated soldier, they say. He had been chief of staff, he had been, as you said, Minister of Defense, he had been Prime Minister. And he just happened to be in London on September eleventh, in the studio of the BBC World Television, ready to give his interpretation of 9/11!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now this is called the “<em>primacy effect</em>”. When they, when something terrible like this happens, the first plausible explanation given to the public is the one that will stick in the minds of people. And that’s what he was all about. He was giving this plausible explanation. He said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The world will never be the same from today on.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said is that BBC World, which is the largest English-speaking television network in the world. It spans the globe. And he said that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We know who’s behind this.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s Osama bin Laden, and we know where he is.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Now is the time for America to start an operational, concrete, ‘War on Terror’!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as I said, this, he had also been the commander of the covert commando force on the Sayeret Matkal, where Bibi Netanyahu had been his one of his soldiers. And there was some other Sayeret Matkal players involved. I think Daniel Levin on Flight eleven was a Sayeret Matkal member. And this is a covert commando force that serves directly under the Israeli chief of staff.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, all of these connections, it shows that a Ehud Barak was primed and ready to give that interpretation. It’s so important! Because in order for such a deception to succeed, as I said, you have to get your explanation out there, and you have to spread throughout the world, as soon as possible! And that’s what he was doing in London.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[33:20]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then he went from the BBC, he went straight Sky News, Sky Television, which is owned by Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch, and told the same story. So, there were other agents around the world, in San Diego, and other places, who said exactly what Ehud Barak had been saying. So yeah, they got it out, they got the story out there.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah, they had their script ready to go. And, you know what 9/11, was really a very traumatizing, and just intense event for people to experience. And people were in fear, people were scared, and in a scenario like that, right after it happens, everyone’s traumatized, no one’s really thinking critically. They’re just looking for an explanation, looking for answers. And here these guys are on television, ready to explain exactly what America’s going to do in the aftermath. It’s really astonishing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Adam Green asked me this last night. He asked me what, you know, just my general observations of your speech the other night, down in San Diego. And just my, I guess my views on your work in general. And what really strikes me, is just how really transparent all of this is! It’s like, so obvious that they were behind this, and they’ve benefited from it! They really don’t make it a secret you. And find numerous quotes from people like Netanyahu, and others, where they’re basically boasting about how 9/11 has benefited Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there’s one quote where one Israeli, counter counter-terrorism analyst, or whatever, is talking about how 9/11 was the “<em>greatest public relations event ever carried out, in the jews favor.</em>” I mean, it’s really incredible some of the things that you can find online and verify for yourself. Just how really, truly, how obvious all of this is! How transparent their whole agenda is!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah! On September eleventh, James Bennett, <strong><em>The New York Times</em></strong>, interviewed Bibi Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu. And asked him:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“How will this affect Israeli-American relations?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Netanyahu said right away without, you know, skipping a beat, he said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s very good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then he checked himself:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, it’s not very good, but it’ll generate immediate sympathy!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as he said, a few years later, he spoke to an Israeli audience and told them that:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Israel is benefiting from one thing” he said. “And that is the attack on the World Trade Center, and the Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so how does Israel benefit? Well, Israel is benefiting, because the Israeli strategic plan, the <strong>Yinon Plan</strong> is calling for the destruction of Iraq, and Syria, and host of other Arab countries, was being fulfilled, is being fulfilled by the American struggle in Iraq! And now the American struggle in Iraq, and Syria.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[36:06]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Americans need to understand this “<em>War on Terror</em>” is really an Israeli war of aggression and conquest, being disguised in the pretext of fighting terrorism!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Right! And yeah and that’s really what your book, your latest book anyways, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. That’s really what it’s all about! Like kind of the origins of this idea of a global war on terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I wanted to spend some time and talk about this, a little bit. Because I found this so fascinating, researching 9/11. How this whole narrative, this whole paradigm of international relations — that’s really what it is — it not only goes back to the 1970s, but it was literally, like concocted and manufactured by people like Benjamin Netanyahu, and other hardline zionists in Israel. Like geo-political and military strategists, who were working in cahoots, working hand in hand, with the neo-cons in America. They were kind of formulating this idea, this narrative of a global war on terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they had been talking about, for years, how they needed a “<em>catalyzing event</em>”, a new “<em>Pearl Harbor</em>” to kind of kick-start it, and get it going. And they again, they openly wrote about this in some of their public policy papers. The PNAC document, that everybody knows about, “<strong><em>Rebuilding America’s Defenses</em></strong>”. It explicitly says this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> You know:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“We need a new Pearl Harbor to kick-start this, otherwise the American people are not going to go along with it.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And again, of course, that’s obviously what 9/11 was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So can you kind of address this, the origins of the global war on terrorism? I know Benjamin Netanyahu organized a conference in 1979, if I’m not mistaken.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Which was kind of, you know what kick started all of this yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes. That conference, the <strong>Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism</strong>, was July second, third, fourth, I think, 1979. As I said, it was held at the Netanyahu Institute. It was organized and arranged by the Prime Minister, <strong>Menachem Begin</strong>, who was the arch terrorist of the Irgun, of Israeli history, zionist history. And this was the plan that they put into effect, and rolled out in 1979. And the thing is, is that at the same time that they rolled out this plan, the Israeli chief of the Mossad, Isser Harel, predicted to an American, that Arabs would attack the tallest building in York City. And that happened, you know, with 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21022" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg" alt="" width="666" height="863" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg 666w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-232x300.jpg 232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 666px) 100vw, 666px" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Another Israeli filmmaker named Arnon Milchan, a senior Israeli intelligence agent, made a film called “<strong><em>The Medusa Touch</em></strong>”, in which he depicted a Boeing 747 crash into the Pan Am building. And at the same time they began calling for this “<em>War on Terror</em>” in 1979. So all of this activity, calling for a “<em>War on Terror</em>” and a terrible terrorist atrocity to befall the United States, this came out in the late 1970s. And this is the time when the terrorist parties, as I said, the Irgun and the Stern gang, when the leaders of these terror parties, organizations, came to power in Israel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they came to power in 1977, and they began their agenda! There’s an interesting note, that in 1979 the Israelis were occupying Lebanon. They began a terrorist operation of putting bombs, car bombs, and truck bombs, throughout Lebanon, to stir up problems, and foment war. And this is documented in the one of the books called, “<strong><em>Rise and Kill First</em></strong>”, written by an Israeli, <strong>Ronen Bergman</strong>.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:48]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it’s interesting that this, the fact that Israel was running this terror operation for four years from 1979 to 1983, in Lebanon, killing thousands of people! It’s documented in the book. It’s not discussed in the US media, because if the American jew, and the American public, understands Israel’s history of terrorism, they would understand that Israel is behind 9/11! Behind the bombing of the Marine barracks in 1983, most likely! And scores of other bomb attacks, and fomenting war in the Middle East! And that, would let the cat out of the bag!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! Yeah, and this, what you are about here, the Israelis running, like, this terror ring, or whatever, in Lebanon. They were basically setting up, it was like false-flag terrorism, essentially. They were setting up attacks and trying to get the different factions in Lebanon, fighting against each other. Is that basically what was going on?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes. Exactly!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Well, I think you’re right! I mean, that is their MO. I mean, they have a long history of staging false flag attacks, which is why it should surprise no one that they were really behind 9/11. This is just, you know how they’ve always operated, going back to the very founding of the jewish state of Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> I tend to think that a lot of what we have seen over the years in Iraq, especially, certainly, what we see in Syria right now. We see these various radical terrorist groups, that are in many cases funded and directed by Western intelligence. And they’re used to just totally destabilize the sovereign governments of these countries.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Again, I mean, this is very clearly on display with what’s going on in Syria, where all of these rebel groups are in cahoots with the CIA, and British intelligence. They’re getting funding from, in some cases, like these international organizations, like George Soros, for example. There’s even reports in mainstream media, where Israel is providing medical aid to these people, as they are wounded in battle! It’s really incredible! Even what’s admitted in the mainstream press.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> But this to me is really kind of what the whole, … this is, how the global “<em>War on Terror</em>” is perpetuated, is that it is all entirely manufactured. And I’m frankly not really convinced that there is this threat of radical Islamic terrorism. I mean, I don’t think that people from Middle East, Muslims from the Middle East should be coming over to Europe. I certainly don’t think we should be over there, and they shouldn’t be in our countries. But this idea that they pose this huge threat to us, is just totally nonsense! And it’s clear that this is entirely manufactured by these intelligence agencies, to foment this strife, and to perpetuate the “<em>Global War on Terrorism</em>”!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right! That’s right! And the people that became all Qaeda were trained in Pakistan in the early eighty’s, by Israeli military intelligence, under the command of Ehud Barak. You know, this is a little known fact, that when “<em>Charlie Wilson’s War</em>” began, with US funding, and Saudi, funding, the people who were training, and arming, and training these Arabs who became all-Qaeda, was Israeli Military Intelligence, under Ehud Barak!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. The same person who was on TV on 9/11 telling Americans, and the rest of the world, what was going to happen in the aftermath! It’s gosh, again, it’s just so very transparent and obvious what is going on!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I want to ask a little bit more about the whole “<em>Global War on Terrorism</em>”. We go back to this conference. There were terrorist events leading up to 9/11, but 9/11 is really like the main catalyst, that kind of totally changed American foreign policy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Could you maybe talk a little bit about, like the history of some of this false like terrorism, and really kind of the strategy that these Israeli military strategists have pursued? And what their agenda is?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. Yeah, the Israeli use of false flag terrorism against the United States, is something I talk about in my latest presentation. Because it goes back to the foundation of the state of Israel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Even before the state of Israel, Israel was bombing British embassies in Rome, and other places, Egypt. In the 1950s Shimon Peres <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Szymon Persky]</strong></span>with Moshe Dayan, they were bombing, using nitroglycerin bombs and Egyptian terror cells, to bomb British and American facilities in Cairo, in Egypt, in order to drive a wedge between the United States and Nasser, not just Egypt.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then there was, the Israelis with massacre, they would murder anybody who got in their way, whether it’s the British official for the Middle East, Lord Moyne, or the Count Folke Bernadotte, who was the United Nations mediator to Palestine in the aftermath of the partition plan of 1947.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then they would attack Americans directly! Like with the <strong>USS Liberty</strong>, in 1967, when they attacked this American ship in international waters, murdering thirty-four Americans in one fell swoop! And causing casualties to two-thirds of the ship’s crew. And this was another false flag operation, to drive the American policy against the Arabs!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>See:</strong><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/06/18/andrew-hitchcock-erasing-the-liberty-the-50th-anniversary-of-israels-attack-on-america-transcript/" rel="next">Andrew Hitchcock – Erasing the Liberty – The 50th Anniversary Of Israel’s Attack On America — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that’s what they’re always trying to do. There was a bombing in Lebanon in 1983, against the Marine barracks at the Beirut Airport. Time, and time again, you know, we find Israeli operations against American military, American targets, designed to create hatred, or ill will, on the part of the American public, or the American government against the Arabs.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And 9/11 was simply their masterstroke, if you will!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That was the event that really panned out for them! And it’s been very successful, you have to say. But it’s only successful, because the media in our country, the United States, does not investigate the crime itself. And as I said, the actual person who was supposed to investigate the crime, did not investigate the crime! It was declared an “<em>act of war</em>” and United States went promptly to war. And there we’ve been ever since! For seventeen years now!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes, it’s truly outrageous!</p>
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<p>Well, you know, there has been a lot of anti-Arab, anti-Muslim propaganda put out by the media, also by Hollywood. There is a documentary I remember watching a few years ago. I think it’s called “<em>Real Bad Arabs</em>”, or something like that. Where it kind of goes through and shows all of the anti-Muslim, anti-Arab propaganda that have been in Hollywood movies, and TV shows, and stuff like that. So, on the one hand Muslims and Arabs are highly demonized, and we’re made to think that they pose this grave threat to us. Where, on the other hand, they’re now being encouraged to resettle as refugees in Europe, and also in America. It’s so backwards! It’s like we’re supposed to hate them, and yet welcome them at the same time! Have you noticed this phenomenon? It’s insane!</p>
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<p>And, of course, it’s the, frankly, the organized jewish community that is largely pushing this idea that we need to accept more refugees. Groups like the ADL, and the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, and many other jewish, you know, organized jewish groups, they’re largely behind this push So it’s really, talk about Orwellian! I mean, we’re supposed to hate them, and be fighting and killing them over in their own countries, and yet welcoming them into ours, as refugees! It’s really insane! Have you studied this at all?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh yeah! Well what’s being done, is that they’re trying to depopulate regions of the Middle East, that the, … They’re trying to, as I said, this is a plot to redraw the map of Middle East. And so, like last summer the United States was involved militarily with the Kurdish allies, so-called allies, attacking Mosul, the second largest city in Iraq, and Rocca in Syria.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And we basically, with our “<em>Kurdish allies</em>”, laid waste to these cities, and caused a great deal of migration from the cities. Because they want to depopulate these areas! They want to depopulate and move, transfer, populations around, like they did back in 47, 48. In order to create space for this “<em>Greater Israel</em>” project. They want to expand Israel, make it a larger state. And in order to do so, they need to depopulate certain regions. And at the same time, by sending these people to Europe, they’re trying to cause ill will against the Muslims, you know, as a reaction. So we’re getting, of course, this resurgence of Right wing elements in Europe, because they’re responding, they’re reacting to this forced migration that is being imposed on them.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. It’s a destabilization template that has worked very, very well! I mean, they’re destabilizing the Middle East. That’s really what the whole “<em>Global War on Terrorism</em>” is! It’s destabilizing the Middle East, overthrowing the sovereign governments to advance Israeli hegemony in the region, and using American military and financial might.</p>
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<p>I mean, it’s not even as if the Israelis are themselves doing this, they’re getting us to fight their battles for them! And it’s also destabilizing our countries by flooding Europe, especially. It seems like it is really kind of bearing the brunt of this, where, every day, a boatload of “<em>refugees</em>” from Africa and the Middle East show up. And they’re all presented as “<em>refugees</em>” that are fleeing persecution. When in reality most of them are young men of fighting age, that are probably criminals. And yet, you know, Europe is supposed to welcome these people with open arms! It’s a total destabilization template, working perfectly.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Absolutely! And Gadhafi warned of this! He warned the West, that:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That bottle being, Africa. And that’s exactly what’s happened. These boatloads of refugees are coming from Libya, which is now a fractured, failed state, where the oil is being produced, but the state doesn’t work. And these African, and other refugees, are flooding into Italy, through Sicily, and the islands, which is very close to Libya. Gadhafi was absolutely right!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, the West certainly knew, the Europeans and the Americans, certainly knew, that if they removed Gadhafi, this migration, this increased migration from Africa, would result as a direct consequence. And it has!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah. And in my view, I think it is actually a part of their agenda. A key part of their agenda. Not only destabilizing Europe and America, and traditional Western countries, but basically, you know, displacing the traditional people that founded and built these countries, and replacing them with migrants from the Third World. I think that’s a key aspect of what’s going on as well. And the global war on terrorism has facilitated this.</p>
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<p>And I wanted to ask you, I kind of want to wrap up here, we’ve got about ten more minutes, or so. When is the global war on terrorism ever going to actually end? From what I can tell it’s this, like Orwellian, never-ending nightmare! Again, I just wrote a piece about this where, there’s reports coming out about how “<em>extreme</em>” quote, unquote, “<em>extremism</em>” is a greater threat today than it was on 9/11! And we’ve got to double down in Afghanistan! And keep fighting in Iraq! And carry on what we’re doing in Syria, and maybe invade Iran next! It’s like they’re just perpetuating this.</p>
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<p>So I mean, when is this nightmare ever going to end?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Exactly! That’s the point! When is the nightmare going to end? And again, that’s why I wrote the book, because until the American people realize the fraud of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and 9/11, until they realize that, they will be unable to resist the war! Because as long as Americans believe that we’re actually fighting terrorism, which would be a good thing. If they, as long as they believe the cover story, they will not resist the war.! And they haven’t! They haven’t! And that’s the problem! The war is destroying us! Destroying our societies, as you said. And yet there’s no virtually no resistance, politically, or from the public, about this “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And God forbid, if these people continue with their agenda, they will take this country to war with Iran, and perhaps with Russia, because this is like this “<em>War on Terror</em>” goes on, and on, and on!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Very much like another Arnon Milchan film, called “<strong><em>Brazil</em></strong>”, which he made in 1986, in which a futuristic film, in which, the nation was constantly involved in this war, this distant war against terrorists. And that’s where we are!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The American media, the US media never talks, or shows us images of what’s going on in Syria, or Iraq. It’s just like it’s happening there on the fringe, far from our consciousness. Something we don’t see, out of sight, out of mind! And as long as it remains out of sight, out of mind, it will go on! As long as we give our tacit approval by not protesting. We have to come around and understand that we’ve been lied to! We’ve been cheated! We’re being plundered! And we have to resist the war!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> I completely agree with you! And that’s why I’ve continued to talk about 9/11. And I mean, really if you think about it, 9/11 is the main pillar of our foreign policy. It’s the main paradigm that has a profound influence on our understanding of the world, certainly what’s going on in the Middle East.</p>
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<p>But it transcends Middle East. Look at what’s happened with our airports, for example, in this whole Orwellian concept of Homeland Security, which comes directly from Israel. Once again! Israeli police advisors, they’re training our FBI, training our local law enforcement, basically propagandizing our own law enforcement into their own narratives, where everyone is a suspect. Everyone’s a potential terrorist! So it impacts not only our foreign policy, but also what’s going on domestically.</p>
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<p>This war is never going to end! Nothing is ever going to get solved unless we get to the bottom of 9/11, and start arresting the people responsible! And that leads me to one of the most important questions I want to ask you.</p>
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<p>If you were in charge of an official investigation into 9/11, and you had the ability to arrest and interrogate, who would you choose, who are the top 9/11 suspects, in your mind?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I would start by a purge, arresting the people who are clearly involved in the cover up, and the non-investigation. So, you know, it would involve arresting George Bush, the President, Cheney, Michael Chertoff, Larry Silverstein. All the people that you can see are involved in the crime itself, or the cover up, or the deception. And it would also involve a lot of the heads of media. Because the media is who interprets reality for us politically, and the media has for seventeen years, covered up 9/11, knowing full well that they were omitting important facts from the public narrative!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, you would have to arrest these people, and give them the treatment that they dished out to people, like in Guantanamo! Whereby, you know, enhanced interrogation, to find out what they know. But, <strong>Rahm Emanuel</strong> would be one of them, as well. The mayor of Chicago, because he was involved in the setting up of the crime scene during the Clinton administration.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh wow! Yeah! I didn’t even think about Rahm Emanuel. But that would not surprise me, if he was tied in with what was going on a 9/11.</p>
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<p>I don’t for sure, for me, it would definitely be Larry Silverstein, and it would be definitely be Michael Chertoff! I mean, in my mind, those are the top suspects right there!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Absolutely!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> If we arrested those individuals, I think we could really unravel what actually happened on 9/11. Because in my view, I mean, I’m not really sure what exactly happened, how they were able to do this. There’s a lot of debate online, and over the years, that’s been a huge focus of the 9/11 truth movement, is how it was actually done. You know, was it mini nukes, or thermite? There’s all these different theories and ideas. In my view they’re interesting and worth pursuing. But, at the end of the day, this is the most important aspect, is we got to understand who is responsible for it? Who benefited from it? And what agenda it served?</p>
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<p>And that’s what your work is all about. And that’s what people need to understand. Because, again, it’s very clear, it’s very obvious, it’s very easy to demonstrate all this stuff that we’re saying! Again, it’s not some ridiculous theory that we’re making up, or inferring! It’s not conjecture. I mean, this is easily prove. You could verify everything we’ve said in this entire discussion for yourself! Very easily, just using, Google, for example.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right! That’s right. And that’s why, again, that’s why I wrote the book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. And I made it very small and concise, so people can share it with other people. It’s affordable, the book cost fifteen dollars online. And you can give it to your neighbor, and share it. Because, we have to inform our fellow citizens of the dire straits we’re in! Because, as you say, if we don’t end this war, it will end us! I mean, it really will! It will! It will destroy the country!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh my gosh! It’s practically destroyed the country! It’s certainly bankrupted the country. I mean, we spent, I don’t know how much, we talked about this previously. Some reports are four trillion! Trump, you have a quote here from Trump on your website.</p>
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<p>I wanted to wrap up actually with this. You wrote a memo to President Trump. And right at the very beginning you quote. You have a quote here from him, where he says:</p>
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<h3>“We have spent seven trillion dollars! Trillion with a that! Seven trillion dollars in the Middle East. And, you know what we have for it? Nothing! We have nothing for it!”</h3>
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<p>I’ve been on the “<em>Trump Train</em>”, I’m not going to lie! I was very inspired by his candidacy. And I think he’s saying a lot of important things. And he’s been critical of the wars in the Middle East, although he’s not really doing much to stop them, at this point. He also hasn’t done a whole lot to build the wall, and all that other stuff he said. But, I think he has a much different political actor than anybody I’ve ever seen, anyways.</p>
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<p>So, do you want to maybe wrap up on this? What are your thoughts on Trump? Do you think he’s actually ever going to do anything about 9/11? And I guess, what is the state of the 9/11 Truth Movement? See, in my view, in my personal experience, people are more receptive to this information, than it any other time I’ve been involved in this. I can say that for sure.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well I mean, if you explain to people how this war is detrimental to our nation, and to our prestige, and to our moral fiber. It distorts everything about us, it distorts the public, it brutalizes our society. If you start from that, and explain how 9/11 was done to make this war happen, people be more receptive.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t know what Trump’s going to do, and I’ve sent him open letters, and sent in my books. And I hope that he would understand the need to end this war. Because, as you said, he said “<em>seven trillion dollars</em>”. And people will argue about this figure, but in that figure, he’s including interest on the payments on the debt, and future costs that have been already incurred that would be paid out in the future. So he’s not exaggerating. It has cost that much money!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">As I said, as long as the most expensive war history, and we have to really lean on our politicians, including Donald Trump, to end this war! Because this war is so destructive of our nation, and the world! And it has to end! We can’t allow this Israeli nightmare to distort our lives, going forward! We have to come out of this Israeli nightmare! This is, you know, “<em>Milchan movie</em>”, and reclaim our history, reclaim our integrity, and end the war!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! Reclaim our reality! Our reality! We’ve been living in this “<em>artificial reality</em>” for so long. You use that term in the book. And it’s one I’ve heard, you know, John Kaminski, for example. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with him, I’ve been following his work for a number of years, and he uses that phrase, “<em>artificial reality</em>”. That’s exactly what 9/11 has done! It has created this “<em>artificial reality</em>”, that our entire foreign policy is revolving around. It’s very easy to demonstrate this, and it’s totally unacceptable, and outrageous! Everybody should be speaking out against this.</p>
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<p>And I think reading a book like yours, and in following your work, and following your website, will really give people some clarity on these subjects. And allow them to come to these conclusions, and really kind of figure out 9/11, basically.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes, I hope so! Because, as you say, this artificial reality, they’re trying to make our country, the United States of America, the “<em>Greater Israel</em>”! So that we are like Israelis, that we’re constantly at war. We’re fighting, fighting, fighting, and terrorizing the world!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We don’t want that reality! Thank you very much! We want America back the way it should be! And we want to throw off these Israeli spectacles, and this artificial reality that they have imposed on us, and get back to our reality! You know, thank you very much. You said it very well.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes sir! Yeah, thanks man! Chris we’ll go ahead and wrap up now. I want to kind of plug your Web site real quick. Because you can pretty much find all of your information, your contact, all of the books that you have for sale. Just right out, Bollyn dot com, correct?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. And I have a special deal that I offer, the entire set, three books. The two “<strong><em>Solving 9/11</em></strong>” books, and the “<strong><em>War on Terror</em></strong>” book for fifty dollars donation. And that you can do through Bollyn dot com, or through Pay Pal.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And all I ask is that people give me a mailing address, and a phone number, and a fifty dollars donation, and I’ll send a set of books. And that’s like twenty-five dollars cheaper than they would get it from Amazon dot com. So, and that includes shipping.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh! There you go!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> So it’s a good deal.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> That’s a hell of a deal! Yeah. Do you do sign those books that you send out?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No, I can’t sign books, if I’m not at an event, because the books and I, are in different places. The books are produced, … so when I do an event then I can sign books. And if you get the book now, or the book in the future, I can send them a bookmark, you know, signed bookmark. But that’s best I can do, about signing them.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Very good! Well, I certainly encourage all of our listeners to support your work and to purchase your books. I have all of your books. I picked up the most recent book, down there to say the San Diego for 9/11 Truth event. So, I think you’re doing great work! I’m glad that you’re still out there talking about 9/11, going to events, speaking to public audiences, and really engaging people! I think you do a great job!</p>
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<p>You put on a great presentation every time I’ve ever seen you, whether it’s on YouTube, or in real person. And you’ve been a big influence, and you’re just really an inspirational figure in my development, in my thinking, in my writing! So I want to thank you very much for taking the time, Chris. I really appreciate it!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Thank you John. It’s been a pleasure talking to you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> All right. Well, I will talk to you again, real soon.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Okay, thank you very much.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Okay, thanks.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Adam Green from &#8220;Know More News&#8221; interviews (Sept, 2017) Christopher Bollyn the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World&#8221; and his newest book, &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/09/11/know-more-news-christopher-bollyn-the-man-who-solved-9-11-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>Adam Green</strong> from &#8220;<strong><em>Know More News</em></strong>&#8221; interviews (Sept, 2017) <strong>Christopher Bollyn</strong> the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;<em><strong>Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World</strong></em>&#8221; and his newest book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Christopher Bollyn&#8217;s work proves beyond any doubt that 9-11 was carried out by organized jewry through Israel and zionists within the US, to create their &#8220;<em>War on Terror</em>&#8220;, aka, &#8220;<strong><em>War OF Terror</em></strong>&#8220;, in order to justify the smashing of Arab countries, and others, to pieces, as part of  a larger New World Order agenda.</span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Man Who Solved 9-11</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Christopher Bollyn: The Man Who Solved 9/11</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Investigative journalist, 9/11 researcher, and author Christopher Bollyn sits down with Adam Green and Know More News for an exclusive interview.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">We discuss:<br />
His Books and Tour<br />
Israeli Role in 9/11<br />
Predictive Programming<br />
Alex Jones controlled opposiiton<br />
and much more!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Buy Christopher Bollyns Books!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a class="yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSolving-9-11-Deception-Changed-World%2Fdp%2F0985322586&amp;redir_token=Xn7gDcsNj2xAYzYFhRODGWKuMgN8MTUzNDU5MjcwMEAxNTM0NTA2MzAw&amp;v=pLWIV0TTcbI&amp;event=video_description">https://www.amazon.com/Solving-9-11-D&#8230;</a></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">CONTENTS</span></h3>
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<p><a href="#bollynkmn-00">INTRODUCTION</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-01">Current Tour</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-02">About the People Who Attend Your Talks</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-03">ADL and the SPLC Attempts to Disrupt</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-04">Netanyahu and Terrorism</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-05">Rupert Murdoch, Jewish Ownership of the Media</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-06">The Current State of the 9/11 Movement?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-07">What We Want!</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-08">The Oded Yinon Plan to Fragment Arab Countries</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-09">Bollyn’s Views on Trump and 9/11</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-10">Do You Ever Think of Giving Up?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-11">When Do You Debate People on 9/11?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-12">What are the Demographics of the 9/11 Truth Movement?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-13">The 2006 CNN Hit Job on You</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-14">How Many Americans Question the Official Conspiracy?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-15">What About the Muslim World?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-16">What’s the Evidence that Jews did 9/11?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-17">Give Us a List of the Evidence of Israeli Involvemnet</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-18">The 1979 Netanyahu “Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism”</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-19">Michael Chertoff and other Top Connections</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-20">The Cover-up and Destruction of Evidence</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-21">Philip Zelikow and the “9/11 Commission Report”</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-22">The Need for a Real Investigation of 9/11 and Cover-up</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-23">The 4,000 Israelis Who Didn’t Show Up on 9/11?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-24">CNN with Michael Gross Saying Jews are being Scapegoated</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-25">Criticism of Israel and Jews involved in 9/11 is “Anti-semitic”!</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-26">Solving a Crime Means Going where the Evidence Leads</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-27">Did You Ever Think You Might Be Wrong?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-28">9/11 And the &#8220;War on terror&#8221; an Israeli, Zionist Operation</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-29">What About Jesuits, Rothschilds, Rockerfellers?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-30">Predictive Programming, Arnon Milchan, and Rupert Murdoch</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-31">Alternative Media, Controlled Opposition, and Alex Jones</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-32">What About the Bible, and the “Synagogue of Satan”?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-33">Your Letter to the Pope, Did He Respond?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-34">What is Hindering People from Speaking Out?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-35">Shimon Perez Wanting to Frighten the West into Supporting Israel&#8217;s Aims</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-36">Who Were the Top Three People Involved in Planning 9/11?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-37">Menachem Begin, the Father of Terrorism</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-38">Your Place in History When the Truth of 9/11 is Known?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-39">Do You Ever Fear for Your Life for Exposing the People Behind 9/11?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-40">Everyone Needs to Read Bollyn&#8217;s Books!</a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> I’m Adam Green with No More News. Today I’m joined by author and 9/11 researcher, <strong>Christopher Bollyn</strong>. Christopher Bollyn dot com. He’s got two books. His new book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”, and his previous book, from, &#8230;  What year did “<strong><em>Solving 9/11</em></strong>”, come out?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> 2012.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> 2012. “<strong><em>Solving 9/11 — The Deception that Changed the World</em></strong>”. Two books that are the best books on 9/11, in my opinion. They point out the who, why, and how!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-Holding-books.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20987" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-Holding-books.jpg" alt="" width="1010" height="663" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-Holding-books.jpg 1010w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-Holding-books-300x197.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-Holding-books-768x504.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1010px) 100vw, 1010px" /></a></p>
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<p>So Chris, thanks for coming in and talking with me today.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> You’re welcome!</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-01"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Current Tour</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So, tell me about the tour. How many stops have you made so far, and how many more do you have?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well the tour just started in the first week of September. I’ve been, about, to half a dozen places, and I’ve got about, a dozen, or so, more.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> And this isn’t your first tour. You did two tours for “<strong><em>Solving 9-11</em></strong>”?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No. This is the sixth tour. First tour was in the fall of 2014, and there’s been five since then.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Five. And these are mostly in the US, or you’ve gone around the world as well?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> These are the US tours, I’m talking about. I’ve also done some tours in Europe.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah, and how are you received in America, compared to other countries?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I’m received everywhere pretty well, with the exception of places where there’s a kind of orchestrated protest, like in Brooklyn, or Tucson. But generally, you know, if somebody invites me to a place, like a public library, then usually the event goes ahead with no problem. Public libraries are in fact, you know, a bastion of free speech in this country.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-02"><span style="color: #ff0000;">About the People Who Attend Your Talks</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> On your book tour you give the your presentations, and they’re available online. There’s several of them on YouTube. Really good, lots of information. What are the type of people that come out to protest the events? Talk to me about the protesters.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[02:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, there was a small protest in Tucson, and they were an organized group. But there was a bigger protest in Brooklyn.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5702-Daily-Beast-Protesters-copy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21039" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5702-Daily-Beast-Protesters-copy.jpg" alt="" width="641" height="594" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5702-Daily-Beast-Protesters-copy.jpg 641w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5702-Daily-Beast-Protesters-copy-300x278.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 641px) 100vw, 641px" /></a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5703-Forward-anti-semite.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20989" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5703-Forward-anti-semite.jpg" alt="" width="681" height="557" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5703-Forward-anti-semite.jpg 681w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5703-Forward-anti-semite-300x245.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 681px) 100vw, 681px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that was done by a group, a jewish group, for “<strong><em>Racial and Economic Equality</em></strong>”, something of that nature. And when you go to their website and look at who funds them, you see that <strong>Larry Silverstein</strong> and <strong>Clara Silverstein</strong> are two of the main funders, and their organizations.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21045" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg" alt="" width="729" height="378" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg 729w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy-300x156.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 729px) 100vw, 729px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Well, there’s no conflict of interest there!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[smiling]</strong></span><br />
</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So well, how other protesters behave when they’re there? Are they violent?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well! In Brooklyn they were quite out of line. They would come into the event, they would start shouting. They did everything they could to disrupt it, to intimidate people. It was really quite obnoxious!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They were shouting and they had some burly guy, who was pushing people around. And they were just being really obnoxious. And so, the Brooklyn police had to come out to, you know, escort me out from the premises safely.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[03:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Good. I’m glad that they were there to protect you.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> They were very good.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-03"><span style="color: #ff0000;">ADL and the SPLC Attempts to Disrupt</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So, I read a few of the articles on the ADL and SPLC. You’re like one of their enemy number ones. And they had like a organized campaign to try to have people cancel your events. And they try to pressure the venues.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. I don’t know who’s behind that, but there’s a fellow in Canada and some other people, who take it upon themselves to contact venues and to threaten them, threaten the venue’s in order that they will pull the event. And that has happened, that’s happened before in Massachusetts and New York.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> How does that make you feel when they cancel your event and stop your free speech? Even though it’s so fact-based. Like they can’t even stop and have a dialogue and a discourse, and listen to you.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, yeah! It’s like what I tell the protesters. I tell the protesters, you know:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8220;<em>Come inside and listen to the presentation, and you can ask your questions afterwards. We can talk about this.</em>&#8220;</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But they’re not willing to do that. They’re not wanting to have a discussion.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s the same thing with these other detractors. They don’t want to discuss the evidence! They don’t want to discuss 9/11 facts. They simply want to attack me, calling me an &#8220;<em>anti-semite</em>&#8220;, or a &#8220;<em>Nazi</em>&#8220;, or something like that. It&#8217;s the end of the discussion.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> There’s a picture of you online on one of these sites and it says, I think the headline was like:</p>
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<h3>&#8220;Oh! You didn’t know the Nazi speaking at your event?&#8221;</h3>
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<p>And they have a picture of you, like behind some like German lettering. Have you seen that picture?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh, they have a picture of me, and I think you’re talking about the picture from, in Germany? I was at the train station and Mannsee. And it has the old gothic text, &#8220;<em>Mannsee Station</em>&#8220;. I lived in Mannsee. What’s the big deal?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah! It’s not like you’re wearing a swastika or anything.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes, right. Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Anybody that’s been to Germany is apparently a Nazi! So, how about the people that are in support, that come out to the event? Are there other people that like are on the fence, or is everybody mostly supporters?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5706-being-interviewed.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20992" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5706-being-interviewed.jpg" alt="" width="723" height="620" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5706-being-interviewed.jpg 723w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5706-being-interviewed-300x257.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[05:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, that’s hard to say, It depends where I’m speaking. I’ve spoken in places like Spokane, Washington, where when I asked the people about their feelings on Israel, about half the audience was Christian zionists.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, it depends where I’m speaking.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But most people are interested, obviously. And I would say most of them are actually supportive of my position. There they’re familiar with it, because it’s a group of people who are quite awake. And they’re very much aware of 9/11 research, that come to my presentations, generally.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s not people that don’t know anything about it. The average person who doesn’t know anything about 9/11, is not interested in 9/11 for a reason. They’re in denial, they don’t want to talk about. It scares them!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So the people come to my event, I often say, are some of the most extraordinary people in America. Because they have moral courage and they have the intelligence to understand that they’ve been lied to!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[06:03]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-04"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Netanyahu and Terrorism</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Speaking of moral courage, that’s a good segue to go to one of the quotes in your book, which is from Netanyahu in his book, &#8230; What is his book called?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> &#8220;<strong><em>Fighting Terrorism</em></strong>&#8220;, I think.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Benjamin-Netanyahu-Books.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21046" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Benjamin-Netanyahu-Books.jpg" alt="" width="626" height="883" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Benjamin-Netanyahu-Books.jpg 626w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Benjamin-Netanyahu-Books-213x300.jpg 213w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 626px) 100vw, 626px" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5707-Fighting-Terrorism-book.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20993" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5707-Fighting-Terrorism-book.jpg" alt="" width="897" height="651" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5707-Fighting-Terrorism-book.jpg 897w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5707-Fighting-Terrorism-book-300x218.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5707-Fighting-Terrorism-book-768x557.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 897px) 100vw, 897px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> &#8220;<strong><em>Fighting Terrorism</em></strong>&#8220;. And the quote is on page 50.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>&#8220;But in many cases, of course, it is perfectly possible to determine who the terrorists are and who stands behind them. If governments have failed to do this it is more often not for lack of knowledge but for lack of courage and moral clarity.&#8221;</h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>So, and that’s Netanyahu in &#8220;<strong><em>How the West Can Win</em></strong>&#8220;, 1986</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5708-Fighting-Terrorism-quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20994" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5708-Fighting-Terrorism-quote.jpg" alt="" width="637" height="598" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5708-Fighting-Terrorism-quote.jpg 637w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5708-Fighting-Terrorism-quote-300x282.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 637px) 100vw, 637px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> &#8220;<em><strong>Terrorism — How the West Can Win</strong></em>&#8220;. Yeah, right.<br />
</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah. So he’s presumably talking about, like Western governments, and then the terrorists being al-Qaeda, in this quote, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. He said it in nineteen, it&#8217;s from 1986, and so he’s talking about, yeah, you know, he’s probably referring generally to Palestinian, and what he called &#8220;<em>Arab terrorism</em>&#8220;, or &#8220;<em>Islamic terrorism</em>&#8220;.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[07:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> But you think that like the underlying read between the lines here, is he’s really talking about that they’re the ones that are behind the terrorism?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well, he’s not saying that, but the quotes of Netanyahu, are good for this purpose, because they’re applicable to any terrorist operation. Any terrorist thing. And so, you know, whether it’s a false flag terror operation that’s been done by the Israelis, perhaps, or something that’s a genuine act of terrorism. It goes both ways. It’s true! </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so it’s like Netanyahu has had this, Netanyahu Institute’s been working on terrorism since like 1979. So there’s a lot of Israeli analysis and study of terrorism that goes into his comments. It’s the same thing he said about the media. He said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8220;That the terrorists need to control the mass media!&#8221;</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, that works just as well for the Israelis, that they need to control the mass media, to get their way.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[08:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Read us that quote, too. Talk about that.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, yeah. But this is Netanyahu from the same book &#8220;<strong><em>Terrorism — How the West Can Win</em></strong>&#8220;. </span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20995" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg" alt="" width="618" height="604" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg 618w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote-300x293.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 618px) 100vw, 618px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He says:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8220;But how do we form our opinions of the present? The West depends in large measure on its media. This is why terrorists, in their war against the West, devote so much of their strategy, and their effort, to capturing the Western press, and using it for their own purposes.&#8221;</span></h3>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-05"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Rupert Murdoch, Jewish Ownership of the Media</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Well if you look at the Western press and who owns, it’s a primarily owned by companies, or individuals, who are strongly zionist. Like in the case of CBS News. The President and CEO of CBS News, is a man named <strong>Leslie Moonves</strong>, who is the grand nephew of the founding Prime Minister of the state of Israel, Ben-Gurion. So it’s like, it’s not like, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Rupert Murdoch?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Rupert Murdoch, is, yeah, &#8230;<br />
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Sumner Redstone?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[09:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. There’s many. It’s been the case all along.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in a case of people like Mr Murdoch, he was created to be the media mogul he is, with deep pocket funding from the Rothschilds. You don’t become the owner of 160 newspapers across the United States and Britain with chump change.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Isn’t he involved with investments in drilling with the Kushner’s in the Golan Heights, too? Have you heard of that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes.Murdoch is a partner with the Rothschilds in the drilling on the Golan Heights, which is illegal. And the Rothschilds are also primary owners of the oil of Kurdistan, in the north of Iraq. Which will be voting for independence within a fortnight.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-06"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Current State of the 9/11 Movement?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay. All right, back to the tour. What would you say, you traveled all around the US, and all over the world. What is the state of the 9/11 truth movement? And how has it evolved over the years?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>[10:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well! How has it evolved? it’s gotten more, at this point, sixteen years later, it’s gotten more real. I mean, that people now understand more about 9/11, who did it and why they did it, because we’re sixteen years into the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. And my current tour is primarily focused on the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, because this is the ongoing crime! 9/11 was the atrocity that happened 16 years ago. 3,000 people were killed in broad daylight.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But ever since then, more and more people have been killed every day, because of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. And the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and 9/11 are like two sides of a counterfeit coin. It’s a fraud! And once people understand the 9/11 fraud, they will understand the fraud of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. But in actual reality the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is older, much older!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah. And your book gets into that via the origins, 1979, “<em>The Jerusalem Conference</em>”.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right</span>.</p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> What do you think the new 9/11 movement needs to like really get over hump, and like reach a critical mass?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[11:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, that’s a good question, because the mainstream media is not ever going to address 9/11 truth, because they’re complicit in the crime. So, what needs to happen is that we’re having a revolution of awareness in this country. People are waking up and realizing that they’ve been lied to by the media and the government, for the last 16 years, and longer.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in the case, you know, it’s still a situation that the John F Kennedy murder is still covered up by the mainstream media and the government. So this is a, … What we hope to achieve, is that we hope that people of people of well-known reputations and means, you know, deal with 9/11 truth, come to terms with it, and embrace it! And when more and more people understand that the deception of 9/11, we hope that we can end the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5712-Being-Interviewed.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20998" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5712-Being-Interviewed.jpg" alt="" width="751" height="642" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5712-Being-Interviewed.jpg 751w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5712-Being-Interviewed-300x256.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 751px) 100vw, 751px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[12:00]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-07"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What We Want!</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what we really want to do is, you know, we want a proper investigation of 9/11, because it’s never been investigated at all, as a crime. The evidence was destroyed. We want to bring the guilty to account, the people who were involved in the crime and the deception, and the covering up of the crime. And we want to end the war.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We want to end the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and again prosecute those people who have been part of the war crimes that have been committed. Because the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is primarily a war of conquest and aggression that’s being waged under the pretext of fighting terrorism. But it’s not! it’s a crime!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so the war in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, these are wars of aggression! And that’s what the British inquiry the “<strong><em>Chilcott Inquiry</em></strong>” made very clear. But we haven’t had anything like the “<em>Chilcott Inquiry</em>” in this country. But we need to do that! We need to clean house! Because we can’t go forward into a into a future of peace and prosperity based on the lies that we’ve accepted for the last 16 years is true!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[13:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Do you think we need to like, mobilize around a political candidate that talks about 9/11 truth? Like somebody needs to break into politics, like maybe Tulsi Gabbard? She talks about ISIS, and funding ISIS. Have you spoken to her.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I haven’t spoken to her, but I know she had the bill to stop funding terrorists, ISIS, and what have you, in Syria.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I think that for us to, you know, put all our chips into a political candidate, would be a mistake, because the political landscape is so tilted against us. We don’t have any Congress person calling for 9/11 truth, yet, after 16 years! Some people are calling, like Barbara Lee and Tulsi Gabbard, are calling for an end to certain aspects of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. Or, you know, renegotiating the authority to use military force, which is the funding and the authorization for the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21033" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg" alt="" width="738" height="924" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg 738w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force-240x300.jpg 240w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But we need a popular resistance to this. We need, &#8230; You know, it’s like , I grew up during the Vietnam time, and there was a popular resistance to the war in Vietnam. We don’t see anything like that in this country today. 16 years! You have to remember that the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is the longest war in US history at this point! The oldest war in US history! And also the most expensive war in US history!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it like this doesn’t make any sense. You know, originally it started out to go after the terrorists who committed 9/11, you know, many of whom supposedly died on 9/11. So going after a ragtag group of students and Taliban in Afghanistan, that shouldn’t take more than a couple weeks!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, from the very beginning they said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This is going to take decades!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, why? Because they knew that the real underlying strategy for the “<em>War on Terror</em>” was to redraw the map of the Middle East, to conquer territories, and to cut the Arab countries into pieces. And that would take some time.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:02]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-08"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Oded Yinon Plan to Fragment Arab Countries</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So yeah, you talk about “<em>sectarian enclaves</em>”. They want to have a Kurdistan. How does that benefit Israel, to break up their surrounding Muslim countries into smaller sectarian groups? Is it just, because they’re fighting with one another and that if there are smaller countries, that Israel is more powerful?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, yeah. First of all, if they can break up, … The “<strong><em>Yinon Plan</em></strong>”, the “<strong><em>Oded Yinon Plan</em></strong>” of 1982, made very clear that on the eastern front, Israel’s primary targets were Iraq, and Syria, in that order. And the first thing they wanted to do was to destroy the military of Iraq, and Syria. And then to fragment the country along it’s ethnic lines, or religious lines. It’s called “<em>balkanization</em>”, because it’s exactly what was done to Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was a large country, a socialist country. They broke it up into six, or seven statelets.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[16:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And for Israel that would mean that the other countries in the neighborhood would be similar ethnic States. And Israel is just another ethnic state. So they would have some moral justification in a neighborhood where everybody is similar, you know, ethnic States.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then also, they obviously weakened the big Bath states, the big Arab states, like Iraq, and Syria. Saudi Arabia is on the chopping block too. So it’s like nobody, &#8230; It’s happened to Libya, it’s happened to Lebanon, and Yemen, and Sudan. It’s the game plan.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Do you think that Saudi Arabia is going to give up some of their land to Israel? Because if you look at the “<em>Greater Israel</em>” project, the “<em>Eratz promised land</em>”, that goes into Saudi Arabia.</p>
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<p>Because it seems like they’re working together with ISIS, and they’re not exposing them for 9/11. They worked together on 9/11, and arming the Mujahideen. So is there a deal worked out, where they’re gonna give them the promised land at one point?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[17:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> I don’t know. I mean, I don’t know how it’s gonna shake out. But I have seen that the maps of this balkanization of the Middle East, do affect Saudi Arabia.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They’re trying to achieve this plan. And in Syria, right now, they’re breaking the country up into three pieces, or four pieces. And Iraq has already been broken up into three pieces. As I said, on the 25th of September, there’ll be a referendum in Kurdistan to become independent of Iraq. That’s what they want to do, but, you know, there are obstacles along the way. In the case of Syria there’s been some obstacles in the form of, you know, Iran and the Russian military.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-09"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Bollyn’s Views on Trump and 9/11</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> In the foreword to your book, <strong>Alan Sabrosky</strong> writes that you’re optimistic that Trump might disclose 9/11 truth. I’m not sure when he wrote that, if he had already bombed Syria and revamped the war in Afghanistan. But do you still have that sentiment about Trump?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[18:04]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I mean, I hope that Trump will do something about 9/11 truth, and ending the war. You know, he spoke about these things when he was, &#8230; He didn’t speak about 9/11 truth specifically, but he did talk about having better relations with Russia, ending the conflict in Syria.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he has done some good things. He’s pulled out from the CIA funding of the Syrian rebels. The war in Syria is now coming to a conclusion, largely, because the United States has pulled back support. So that’s a good thing! The sooner the war in Syria is over, the sooner we get some balance, the better. I would have, of course, preferred that Donald Trump, from the very beginning, took a more muscular policy on ending the wars in Iraq, and Syria, and Afghanistan. But, he didn’t do that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[19:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> What do you think about his relationship with Silverstein, and Netanyahu, and the Kushner’s? Do you really think that’s possible, that there’s any chance that he will do that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, he has had very close relations with Israelis, and Americans zionists for a long time. That doesn’t mean that he’s in cahoots with the 9/11 cover-up. I would hope that as a New Yorker, and as American, he would not cover up the truth of 9/11! Which is, you know, the fundamental thing that I’m talking about here. And as a political leader, and when he ran for office, he told his policy guy that he wants to be the most pro-Israeli candidate out there. He was saying that, because he wanted to win the election.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, I would hope that even though he has these relations with these zionists, that he is not party to the 9/11 crime, or the cover-up.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> I think he’s a part of the cover-up, because on 9/11, he said the buildings were so strong, and he thought there was more than planes, and bombs. And then a few days later he changed his tune completely, and said that:</p>
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<h3>“Oh! It’s kamikazes, and they’re terrorists, and there’s nothing that would have stopped the buildings from coming down!”</h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. That’s right! He said on 11th of September, he said that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“There had been, most likely, bombs that went off simultaneously with the plane impacts.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Which is pretty true, pretty correct! I mean, a good observation. And as you said, two days later he changed his tune. So, whether somebody called him up and told him to change his tune, is most likely the case.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But that’s happened all across the US! You know, I saw a professor from New Mexico Tech, he did the same thing. On day one, he spoke truth about 9/11, ten days later he changed his tune.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[21:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, you know, this is the politic thing to do, for these people. They want to either keep their position, they want to keep their funding, they want to stay on the right side of the tracks. And so, they go along with the cover-up.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-10"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Do You Ever Think of Giving Up?</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>Green:</strong> Can you talk about your frustration, or do you ever think about giving up the fight for 9/11?</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5716-Thought-of-Giving-up.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21002" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5716-Thought-of-Giving-up.jpg" alt="" width="771" height="650" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5716-Thought-of-Giving-up.jpg 771w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5716-Thought-of-Giving-up-300x253.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5716-Thought-of-Giving-up-768x647.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 771px) 100vw, 771px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s a good question, because, no I haven’t. I’ve never thought about giving up! And I can tell you that it’s been very difficult! It’s been very difficult at times. But, you know, it would be worse to give up, especially knowing what I know. And having done the research that I’ve done over a period of years, it would be just stupid to give up!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But more than that, it’s like, to give up and to let the lie go on, for even one more day, it would be a sin! It’s wrong! You know, this whole thing is so wrong the way these people have hijacked our reality!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21048" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg" alt="" width="659" height="942" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg 659w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 659px) 100vw, 659px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The first chapter of this book “<strong><em>The War on Terror</em></strong>”, it’s like living with, &#8230; Here it is, “<em>coping with artificial reality</em>”, because in the 16 years since 9/11 that’s where this country has been! The United States has been in this artificial reality!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5717-Living-in-an-artificial-reality.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21003" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5717-Living-in-an-artificial-reality.jpg" alt="" width="763" height="642" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5717-Living-in-an-artificial-reality.jpg 763w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5717-Living-in-an-artificial-reality-300x252.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 763px) 100vw, 763px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We’ve been given a lie about what happened on a 9/11, and based on that live we have gone to war! We’re waged war against, you know, half a dozen Islamic nations. We’ve done terrible devastation to places like Syria, and Iraq, and Afghanistan!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And we’ve done great damage to this country! The cost of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is at least two and a half trillion dollars, right now! That’s not counting future costs down the road, which will double that. I mean, this is suicidal!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5795-Cost-of-the-War-on-Terror.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21032" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5795-Cost-of-the-War-on-Terror.jpg" alt="" width="953" height="735" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5795-Cost-of-the-War-on-Terror.jpg 953w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5795-Cost-of-the-War-on-Terror-300x231.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5795-Cost-of-the-War-on-Terror-768x592.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 953px) 100vw, 953px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[22:58]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I love this country, and I want to see this country restore some of it’s integrity, and get back on track! It’s like the country’s been hijacked! There’s no better way to say it, the country’s been hijacked! And, you know, when the country’s been hijacked, you can’t just sit back in your first-class seat, drinking champagne, and not worry where the plane’s going! You got to turn it around! And that’s what I think, that’s my obligation, and that’s the obligation of people in the country who understand 9/11 truth!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-11"><span style="color: #ff0000;">When Do You Debate People on 9/11?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Do you ever debate people on 9/11, like academics, or people in media? Like, does anybody step up and actually want to debate with you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[24:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No. No, not like that. But occasionally I will take on somebody who’s critical. People who are quite critical. For example, I don’t usually get into debate with other people, or journalists, pundits, scholars, what-have-you, unless they attack 9/11 truth. I mean, one example was, I think, a man named “<em>Greg Palast</em>”. He turned against Stephen Jones. And in an interview on TV, he said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Come at me Jones! Come at me! You’re a fraud!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I thought:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Gee this is outrageous! Why is the attacking Professor Jones?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Professor Jones did great research on finding the nano-thermite in the destruction of towers. And with a little investigation I found that Mr Palast has connections to Israeli intelligence. One of his uncle’s, or great uncle’s, or something like that, was no less than David Kimche, the man who was the Israeli Mossad architect of Iran-contra.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I mean, you see, that’s kind of like where my debate goes. When people attack 9/11 truth, when they attack me as an individual, when they attack Professor Jones, or other 9/11 truth people, quite unjustly! Then I will debate them, or look into what they’re saying.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because I want to find out why they’re doing it. Because there’s no logical, or moral, justification for attacking 9/11 truth. Anyone who attacks 9/11 truth, or 9/11 truthers, is basically working for the other side.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-12"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What are the Demographics of the 9/11 Truth Movement?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5718-Working-for-the-other-side.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21004" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5718-Working-for-the-other-side.jpg" alt="" width="652" height="670" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5718-Working-for-the-other-side.jpg 652w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5718-Working-for-the-other-side-292x300.jpg 292w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 652px) 100vw, 652px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> What would you say the demographics of 9/11 movement are? You’ve been around the country, what is the 9/11, &#8230; How could you summarize and describe the 9/11 movement?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I can’t speak for the whole movement, but the people that come to my events, generally tend to be older people, and people who understand the betrayal that 9/11 represents to America.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Why do you think it’s older people that come to your events?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I think there’s a couple reasons. Older people know, they know very well what we’ve lost there. And 9/11 happened when they were mature, when they were able to grasp it. And they know what’s being lost in this country!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[26:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Whereas young people who were, you know, just a couple years old when 9/11 happened, the “<em>War on Terror</em>” has been like the wallpaper in the room for them. It’s been, it is accepted. And they don’t realize what this country has lost, and what this country is losing! So, it tends to be older people.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-13"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The 2006 CNN Hit Job on You</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Now we’re gonna get into your famous CNN appearance! And do, you know what year this was?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> This was done in 2006.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And you had to know you’re going, you’re being interviewed by CNN, and this is gonna be a total hit piece!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> They play you like 10 seconds, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5719-Adam-Green-in-shot.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21005" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5719-Adam-Green-in-shot.jpg" alt="" width="758" height="639" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5719-Adam-Green-in-shot.jpg 758w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5719-Adam-Green-in-shot-300x253.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 758px) 100vw, 758px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah it was done before the trial. It aired on TV the night before my trial was supposed to begin.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Wow! So it was totally, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, it was a hit piece!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay, so we’re gonna start it, and let me know when you want to, whenever you want to interject, and I’ll pause it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[27:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5720-CNN-Interview.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21006" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5720-CNN-Interview.jpg" alt="" width="923" height="643" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5720-CNN-Interview.jpg 923w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5720-CNN-Interview-300x209.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5720-CNN-Interview-768x535.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 923px) 100vw, 923px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>CNN:</strong> We’ve all heard some absolutely incredible 9/11 conspiracy theories. The web, of course, is full of them! But tonight, we’re bringing one out, that feeds on racism, out in the open. We were, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So the introduction, what do you feel about that? They’re introducing it as “<em>this is racism</em>” right away! Not like:</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3>“This is what some people think.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s just:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Racist! Let us introduce you to the racist!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Right. Well, at the time this lady Paula Zahn. She was married to a man named Cohen, and that marriage ended a few years later. But she was put up to this. She was told that you’re gonna make this piece and we’re gonna do a piece about 9/11 and racism.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> When you talked to her and you were interviewed, how long did she actually talk to you, for?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> I didn’t talk to Paula Zahn. She’s the hostess of the show. I spoke to Deborah Feyerick, who was the person that came out to Chicago.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And how long did they talk to you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[27:58]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well they talked for several hours. They came to the public library. We met them there. They filmed the whole thing. And we took the precaution of recording the entire audio for ourselves. Because they, as you see, they tried to make a hit piece out of it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Media (CNN):</strong> We’re absolutely shocked by one recent poll that found out that one in every three Americans believed the terror attacks were not the work of America’s enemies, but some sort of inside job! And <strong>Deborah Feyerick</strong> found a smaller percentage who believed in an even uglier theory.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5721-CNN-Interview-Anti-semitism-911.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21007" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5721-CNN-Interview-Anti-semitism-911.jpg" alt="" width="510" height="644" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5721-CNN-Interview-Anti-semitism-911.jpg 510w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5721-CNN-Interview-Anti-semitism-911-238x300.jpg 238w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 510px) 100vw, 510px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-14"><span style="color: #ff0000;">How Many Americans Question the Official Conspiracy?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> One-in-three! I’ve seen stats that low, but also like 50%. So it’s like, I feel like so many people question it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5722-Half-of-Americans-Believe-911-conspiracy-theories.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21008" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5722-Half-of-Americans-Believe-911-conspiracy-theories.jpg" alt="" width="957" height="651" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5722-Half-of-Americans-Believe-911-conspiracy-theories.jpg 957w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5722-Half-of-Americans-Believe-911-conspiracy-theories-300x204.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5722-Half-of-Americans-Believe-911-conspiracy-theories-768x522.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 957px) 100vw, 957px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I go out and do interviews, people everywhere question 9/11, but I feel like the “<em>conspiracy stigma</em>” makes everybody not want to speak out about it, and not talk about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Hmm, well the year this video was made, 2006, was the last poll that the CBS, New York Times, did on 9/11 truth. And they asked the public, they did a poll and they found that only 18 <strong>[16]</strong> percent of the American people believed the government was being honest about 9/11. Eighty-four percent of the public thought that the government was either hiding something, or outright lying about 9/11! Eighty-four percent! So that’s the year that video was made.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-15"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What About the Muslim World?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And the majority of the Muslim world, and you’ve gone and spoke to Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam. The majority the Muslim world, what do they think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I don’t know. You know, the Muslim world is a very big place.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> From your experience.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, the Nation of Islam is special, because they have a very intelligent leader, and a brave man, in <strong>Minister Farrakhan</strong>, who is not afraid to address 9/11 truth. He’s the only religious leader that I know of that has national stature that takes on 9/11 truth.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5723-Minister-Farrakhan-on-911.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21009" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5723-Minister-Farrakhan-on-911.jpg" alt="" width="764" height="626" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5723-Minister-Farrakhan-on-911.jpg 764w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5723-Minister-Farrakhan-on-911-300x246.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 764px) 100vw, 764px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Farrakhan:</strong> This is something that took tremendous sophistication to do! And that sophistication was not with Osama bin Laden, or his followers! But if it was not Muslims, then who? Thanks to the exemplary work of scholars, like <strong>Victor Thorn</strong>, and <strong>Christopher Bollyn,</strong> it is now becoming apparent that there were many Israelis and zionist jews in key roles in the 9/11 attack! Now look, if they can prove me wrong, like I said, I’ll pay with my life, since they want to kill me anyway. Prove me wrong!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5724-Minister-Farrakhan-911-building-new.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21053" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5724-Minister-Farrakhan-911-building-new.jpg" alt="" width="847" height="620" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5724-Minister-Farrakhan-911-building-new.jpg 847w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5724-Minister-Farrakhan-911-building-new-300x220.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 847px) 100vw, 847px" /></a></p>
<div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> And in the Muslim world, you know, outside the United States, I really don’t know what their opinion is, but I do know that in the very beginning, in a global poll that was done, seven percent of the people believed that the Israelis were behind 9/11.<span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Note the qualifier &#8220;<em>at the very beginning</em>&#8221; — k]</strong></span><br />
</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Seven percent?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[31:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes.<br />
</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Cass Sunstein writes in his paper that the majority of countries, Muslim countries, believe it, and that’s why it’s so dangerous.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5725-Cass-Sunstein-poll.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21011" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5725-Cass-Sunstein-poll.jpg" alt="" width="962" height="647" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5725-Cass-Sunstein-poll.jpg 962w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5725-Cass-Sunstein-poll-300x202.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5725-Cass-Sunstein-poll-768x517.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 962px) 100vw, 962px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> They believe?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> That 9/11 is a conspiracy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And most of them think, believe, it was the jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5751-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21014" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5751-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg" alt="" width="658" height="926" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5751-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg 658w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5751-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn-213x300.jpg 213w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 658px) 100vw, 658px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (male):</strong> This 9/11 attack was not by 19 Arabs! It was not by Muslims!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (female):</strong> They talk about a jewish plot!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (male):</strong> Everywhere here you look you find a zionist agent.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (female):</strong> A conspiracy by Israeli intelligence.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (male):</strong> In those exact moments, a group of Mossad agents, …</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (female):</strong> Where there were zionist moles in the Bush administration allegedly calling the shots in the Middle East. Websites, magazines, documentaries, radio programs, dozens of them disputing the facts that al-Qaeda was behind the 9/11 attacks.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (male):</strong> It was done by a group of zionists.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5752-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21015" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5752-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg" alt="" width="650" height="927" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5752-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg 650w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5752-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> Are you suggesting that al-Qaeda had nothing to do with it? That this was all part of a large conspiracy, zionist, or otherwise?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[32:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5753-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21016" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5753-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg" alt="" width="643" height="913" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5753-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg 643w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5753-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn-211x300.jpg 211w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 643px) 100vw, 643px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Al-Qaeda, is in my opinion, has been exploited. I question whether such a group even exists!</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> Chicago writer, Christopher Bollyn, is one of the conspiracy theorists.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> I believe that there are Israeli elements, that are connected to the Mossad, that are involved in this attack.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> There’s no physical evidence to support claims that jews were behind 9/11, but the, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Some of that, “<em>no physical evidence</em>”!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Hmm.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-16"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What’s the Evidence that Jews did 9/11?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> It’s funny that they just say, this is what they believe. They don’t say any of our arguments and just claim there’s no evidence!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[32:57]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Hmm hmm. Well, she says no “<em>physical evidence</em>”. You know, there is abundant evidence that the Israeli military intelligence was involved in the creation of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You see, when you understand that the “<em>War on Terror</em>” construct, is a construct of Israeli military intelligence, then the Israeli involvement in 9/11 makes a lot more sense.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because what you find in my 9/11 research, in “<em>Solving 9/11</em>” books, shows that at every critical point, there’s an Israeli agent involved! Or an American zionist who’s working with them.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21054" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg" alt="" width="660" height="941" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg 660w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 660px) 100vw, 660px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Indisputable! Everywhere you look! You documented in your books, like, in a second, I’m gonna have you bullet point, go through all the evidence of Israeli involvement. We’ll see how many you can get in. I’ll time you for like two minutes. Can you get 50, you think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5755-Green-with-Bollyn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21018" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5755-Green-with-Bollyn.jpg" alt="" width="1004" height="638" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5755-Green-with-Bollyn.jpg 1004w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5755-Green-with-Bollyn-300x191.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5755-Green-with-Bollyn-768x488.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1004px) 100vw, 1004px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> I don’t know.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> I bet you can!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (female):</strong> Speculation and rumors mostly discounted here in the US, had gained momentum in Muslim countries, where they’re discussed and believed.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Iman:</strong> These are zionist hands, …</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (female):</strong> Deborah Lauter is with the jewish-run Anti-Defamation League.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5763-Deborah-Lauter-interview.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21019" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5763-Deborah-Lauter-interview.jpg" alt="" width="657" height="859" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5763-Deborah-Lauter-interview.jpg 657w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5763-Deborah-Lauter-interview-229x300.jpg 229w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 657px) 100vw, 657px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Deborah Lauter:</strong> What’s most troubling is when it reaches the internet and goes into the Muslim Arab world. We have this cross-fertilization of hate. And this is something we’ve never seen before.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> A whole web of, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Doesn’t it seem like that the ADL is trying to associate 9/11 truthers with the terrorists, like we’re terrorist sympathizers?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[34:05]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> We’re like, we’re terrorists too, essentially, is what they’re trying to say.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well she’s saying that 9/11 truth that looks at Israeli involvement in 9/11 is hateful!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Ahh hmm.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> And the thing is, first of all, we’re not talking about jews as a group, or Israelis as a nationality. We’re talking about a very small subset! </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Obviously this was a cell that was created back in the 1970s, that took the 9/11 operation further through time. And it was a very compartmentalized group of people, and we know who some of these people are. They are all primarily, at the highest level, zionists that are part of the Likud party, military intelligence people, and people that belong to this Israeli criminal network.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5764-Paula-Zahn-interviewing-panel.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21020" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5764-Paula-Zahn-interviewing-panel.jpg" alt="" width="1008" height="990" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5764-Paula-Zahn-interviewing-panel.jpg 1008w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5764-Paula-Zahn-interviewing-panel-300x295.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5764-Paula-Zahn-interviewing-panel-768x754.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1008px) 100vw, 1008px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> You hear this stuff, and it just makes you sick to your stomach! There is absolutely no evidence! That anybody other than al-Qaeda was involved with this attack!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Absolutely no evidence!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So your challenge now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5765-Bollyns-challenge.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21021" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5765-Bollyns-challenge.jpg" alt="" width="835" height="572" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5765-Bollyns-challenge.jpg 835w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5765-Bollyns-challenge-300x206.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 835px) 100vw, 835px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-17"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Give Us a List of the Evidence of Israeli Involvement</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Israeli involvement in 9/11. Give me, let’s just do the top ten. You don’t have to get into all the details. People can watch your presentations and read your books, which they absolutely should! They should know, everybody should know this information. But, let’s go, ten bullet points of undisputed evidence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21022" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg" alt="" width="666" height="863" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg 666w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-232x300.jpg 232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 666px) 100vw, 666px" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Okay. Well, let’s go chronologically, then. In 1978 the senior Israeli intelligence agent in Hollywood, <strong>Arnon Milchan</strong> made a film, his first film. He made it in Europe, in which a Boeing 747 crashes into a high-rise building, like the Pan Am building in New York. So that’s like “<em>ideation</em>”. Putting the idea out there.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21037" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg" alt="" width="641" height="861" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg 641w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy-223x300.jpg 223w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 641px) 100vw, 641px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Was that movie, … did they already have the idea to put the plane into the tower?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Was it predictive programming, they put it out?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Or did they get the idea of 9/11 from the movie?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No. They, that’s a good question. Because what you see is in the late 1970s, Menachem Begin from the Likud, created the Likud Party in 73. Came to power in 77. And that’s when the ball started rolling. The dual ball of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that in 1978, for example, one year after Menachem Begin becomes prime minister, Arnon Milchan makes his film, “<strong><em>The Medusa Touch</em></strong>”, in which a Boeing, a large Boeing, crashes into a big building. The same year, one year later, the former head of the Mossad, Isser Harel, the founding father of the Mossad, predicts to an American zionist, that Arabs will attack the tallest buildings in New York City. And 20 years later it happens.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[37:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay, so there’s two.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> We’re doing the <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[unclear]</strong></span> prediction to the zionists.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-18"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The 1979 Netanyahu “Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism”</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Then in 1979, the Netanyahu Institute in Jerusalem, hosts a conference called “<strong><em>The Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism</em></strong>”, in which they roll out this new doctrine that the United States and the Western democracies have to come and fight Islamic terrorism in the Middle East. Basically to protect Israel. It’s not put that way, it’s described a little bit differently. They say that terrorists attack Israel, because it’s a Western state, therefore the West has an obligation to come and protect it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> I remember hearing that on 9/11.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> That an attack on them, is really an attack on us but just closer.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Exactly!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay. So that was three, then. The conference where they rolled out the propaganda for the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. And then Isser Harel, a couple years later, two of his senior lieutenants, you know, Zvi Malkin </span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Malkin, Peter “<em>Zvi</em>”]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">and Shalom Bendor</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Bendor, Avraham (a.k.a. Avram Shalom) ]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;">, or Avraham Shalom Bendor. These names are a little bit dodgy. But these two men are senior lieutenants under Isser Harel in the Mossad. They were involved in the kidnapping of Adolf Eichmann, for example, from Argentina. They were involved in the smuggling of plutonium from Pennsylvania to Israel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So these are very high-level Mossad agents. And they come to the United States like in their 50s, or 60s, I could guess, in early 1980s, and they try to get the security contract for the World Trade Center. They get a contract in 1987 for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey for the World Trade Center, in some sort of anti-terrorism protection, for the World Trade Center.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when it’s discovered that Avram Shalom Bendor is using a fake name, and that he’s been convicted of murder, as the head of Shin Bet in Israel, the contract is torn up. So you see, it went from being a fantasy, or a prediction of Isser Harel, to two of his main men coming to the United States and getting the contract for the World Trade Center. So, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:04]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So, 9/11 would have happened back in the late 80s, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, yes!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> If he wouldn’t have got the contract cancelled?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes! If they had, … if that contract had gone through, then they would have been prepared for the operation in the late 80s.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So that’s four things. Three, or four things. She said there’s no evidence, but those are all undisputed, very hard, compelling evidence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Ahh-hmm.</span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-19"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Michael Chertoff and other Top Connections</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> What would you say is some more top connections?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, then you have the role of Michael Chertoff. In 1993 there was the first bombing of the World Trade Center, where a car bomb went off, in which the FBI was very much involved in the operation. That was like a sting operation. The FBI paid this Egyptian Colonel, Salem, a million dollars to testify against the, you know, motley crew he had collected around him, including the “<em>blind Sheikh</em>”. These people went to jail for like, five thousand years!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:04]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Michael Chertoff was a key person in the prosecution, from New Jersey. And, because the case had it’s roots, &#8230; The conspiracy apparently had it’s roots in New Jersey, according to the operation. Michael Chertoff, then, fast forward few years, is then the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, responsible for, … he was given the portfolio for investigating 9/11, the 9/11 crime. But rather than investigate it, he allowed the evidence to be destroyed!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now Michael Chertoff, you have to understand, is a son of the Mossad. He’s an Israeli-American. His mother was an Israeli citizen, which makes him an Israeli citizen. His mother was one of the first Mossad agents in Israel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> You write about that in your book. She worked for the airlines that brought all the people from, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! From Yemen. “<em>Operation Magic Carpet</em>”, I think it was called. So, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And isn’t his dad a Talmudic scholar?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[41:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Was. Yes, yes, that’s right. Rabbi Chertoff. And so, Michael Chertoff plays a key role in the prosecution that didn’t happen! The investigation that was a non-investigation! That’s really important to understand, because if 9/11 had been investigated by any competent law enforcement in this country, the game would have been up!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they had to make sure that there was no proper investigation! So what did they do? Instead of calling it a “<em>crime</em>”, they called it an “<em>act of war</em>”, already on September 11th! By calling it an act of war, it meant that the military would be the instrument used to deliver justice. So that there would be no investigation. So then, Michael Chertoff basically facilitated the cover-up by confiscating evidence in the form of video tapes, and steel, and engine parts, whatever.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Detainees. Israeli spies, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[42:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> All that! And then facilitating the cover-up. So, and he’s a key person. The operation could not have gone ahead had they not made sure that they had absolute 100% security in the form of control of US law enforcement.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And Michael Chertoff’s cousin was at “<em>Popular Mechanics</em>” working on “<em>debunking</em>” 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And you were the one that called his mom and found that they were related, and she said, “<em>Yes</em>”. And it’s so funny, because you go to the debunking articles and they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Well, Michael Chertoff wasn’t even at the Homeland Security until several years after that!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So yeah, he wasn’t the head of Homeland Security, but what position was he on 9/11? Number two at the FBI?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Michael Chertoff?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> He was Assistant Attorney General, and he was in charge of the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice. And he was the one that was given — John Ashcroft, who was Attorney General, gave the portfolio to Chertoff. Chertoff had the final say in all decisions regarding 9/11 investigation.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then later, he became head of Homeland Security. The second one I think, and in that position he maintained his control over the evidence of 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[43:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-20"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Cover-up and Destruction of Evidence</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s very important, because the 9/11 crime, you have to look at the cover-up and the destruction of evidence. And there again you find that the network that destroyed the evidence, and the junkyards that were responsible for the destruction of evidence are, were, under control of Israeli zionists.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay, so Michael Chertoff, all his connections, the junkyards, also Ptech, who’s Ptech?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Ptech was the little enterprise software company in Quincy, Massachusetts, who had their software running on all of the Federal computers on 9/11, military computers. And they had spent two years in the basement of the FAA with Mitre corporation. Checking to see the interoperability between the FAA and military, in the event of a catastrophe, just like this one. And the computer network and the computer system failed on 9/11, obviously.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And the security company at the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center and at the airports.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. There’s two different security companies. At the airports it was Huntley USA, which is an Israeli owned company, owned by ICTS in Holland. And that’s a Mossad LL security company from the beginning. And they controlled airport security, and passenger screening operations, at the airports involved in 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5777-Green-interviewing-Bollyn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21024" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5777-Green-interviewing-Bollyn.jpg" alt="" width="998" height="637" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5777-Green-interviewing-Bollyn.jpg 998w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5777-Green-interviewing-Bollyn-300x191.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5777-Green-interviewing-Bollyn-768x490.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 998px) 100vw, 998px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then at the World Trade Center, the company that was responsible for security procedures was a company called “<em>Kroll Associates</em>”. Which is, again, owned by Jules Kroll, and involved Maurice Greenberg. These are again, high-level zionists. And the Israeli guys that tried to get the security contract for the World Trade Center, Avram Shalom Bendor, had gone to work for Kroll associates after 1993.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So they still got it, even though they had it cancelled in ‘87?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, they got it through using an American trojan horse.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And they finally got it and then pulled it off, shortly after.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-21"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Philip Zelikow and the “9/11 Commission Report”</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> It looks that way. Philip Zelikow is a very zionist guy, he had a lot of power in creating George Bush in the beginning, creating George Bush’s Presidency. But when they wanted to do 9/11, … you know, a year later, more than a year later, when they wanted to set up as 9/11 Commission to basically write the myth, they first went to Kissinger. But Kissinger didn’t want to reveal his client list, so then the second choice was Philip Zelikow.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so Philip Zelikow became the executive director of the 9/11 Commission Report. And he came to the table, with a fully detailed outline of what the Commission report would say in the end, before the Commission even began meeting!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Mr Philip Zelikow, he’s a jewish fellow from Texas, or from Southern California — both places he’s lived and studied. When he got his degree, I think his PhD. His PhD was on the “<em>creation and maintenance of the public myth</em>”. And that’s what he created with the 9/11 Commission Report.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s like, when I wrapped up, when I concluded my “<em>Solving 9/11</em>” book, finally in 2011, I wanted to investigate the, how the deception was contained by the destruction of evidence, and the cover-up. And that’s really important. Like Nixon said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s not the crime you catch, it’s the cover-up!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because in the cover-up you see all of the key players. They have to reveal themselves. It’s the same thing with the media in this country. You know, the media has been complicit in the 9/11 cover-up! They can never come back, they can never redeem themselves to the American people! They have been part of the betrayal!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>Green:</strong> That’s how I know 9/11 is a conspiracy, because you do the research, like we’re talking about zionists fingerprints all over it! Everywhere you look, from top to bottom, going back thirty years. And then you hear the media at CNN say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #000000;">“There’s absolutely no evidence!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">They’re obviously lying and not even being objective, even 1% objective!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[47:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So you’re right. The cover-up is the biggest evidence of 9/11. Even more in your face than the buildings blowing up and coming down free fall, I believe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes. Because you see, it’ll take some real investigation to find out who put the nano-thermite in the World Trade Center, where the nano-thermite was made, etc. You know, finding the fingerprints of the actual criminals involved in the crime, that’s harder to do! But the people who are involved in the cover-up, in the deception, and taking the country to war, based on the lie, that’s all very clear!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-22"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Need for a Real Investigation of 9/11 and Cover-up</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So what we really need is a huge investigation in this country, in which all of the people who are involved in the 9/11 crime and cover-up, are arrested, and charged, and investigated thoroughly!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[48:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Like Chertoff! To find out who was calling the shots, and connecting the network. And that requires something no less than a political revolution in this country. Because it would stand the entire power structure on it’s head!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s why I’m saying that, you know, we don’t have a lot of hope that within, … it’s like, we live in an occupied government right now, we live in a government that’s occupied! Our nation’s occupied! And trying to work within this occupied government for 9/11 truth, when the whole deck is stacked against you, is very difficult!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s why it’s going to take a real revolution of awareness, a popular revolution!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> When you Google 9/11 conspiracies, one of the first things that’s gonna come up is “<em>Snopes</em>”. And it’s gonna be an article saying that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-23"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The 4,000 Israelis Who Didn’t Show Up on 9/11?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“It’s debunked. That conspiracy theorists believe that 4,000 Israelis didn’t show up to work that day.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’m sure you’ve heard about this. Where did that originate? Do you know?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, the story about the 4,000 Israelis who were thought to be at the World Trade Center, or at the Pentagon on 9/11, came from the Israeli Foreign Ministry itself. And it was reported by “<strong><em>Jerusalem Post</em></strong>” online. And the editor of the newspaper said later, that this has been, they were completely accurate in the reporting.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So 4,000 families in Israel contacted the foreign ministry asking about their loved ones, and that’s the source of that. It’s nothing Arabic about it! It comes straight from the Israeli government itself. And combine that with the Odigo instant messaging service, that had a warning that went out several hours before 9/11, that warned of an attack at the World Trade Center, and was precise to the minute! Those two facts together indicate that, that warning went out, was received, and many people escaped injury that day.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So there is some truth to the 4,000 claim, or was that purposely put out to be disinfo, a red herring?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No! That’s completely true about the 4,000. I mean, as reported in the “<em>Jerusalem Post</em>”. It came from the, … the source is the Israeli Foreign Ministry itself.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay. And it came from family members in Israel calling, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And finding out that:</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3>“Oh! They didn’t go that day!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like they’re all like Silverstein?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[50:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, they were wondering, they were calling the Foreign Ministry to find out what was the status, if they had information about that person, one of those 4,000 people. And the instant messaging seems to have worked, in that many Israelis seem to have gotten a message to stay away from the World Trade Center that day.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Only two people came forward as reported and, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Two people in Israel got the message. The vice-president of the company said the warning was precise, to the minute. This was only reported in a few, <strong><em>Haaretz</em></strong> newspaper, and maybe in the <strong><em>New York Times</em></strong> once, or <strong><em>The Washington Pos</em></strong>t once, and never reported again. The whole story about the prior warning from Odigo, and the indication, the evidence, that Israelis were warned ahead of time, was never discussed again.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> But there’s no evidence!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[51:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No evidence, yeah!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[being sarcastic]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-24"><span style="color: #ff0000;">CNN with Michael Gross Saying Jews are being Scapegoated</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> How upsetting is this to you?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5781-Michael-Gross-interview.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21025" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5781-Michael-Gross-interview.jpg" alt="" width="617" height="854" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5781-Michael-Gross-interview.jpg 617w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5781-Michael-Gross-interview-217x300.jpg 217w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 617px) 100vw, 617px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Michael Gross:</strong> Look, we’ve been kicked around for 2,000 years! The face you’re looking at, it’s got a lot of anger in it, because of that! That’s not a way to live, wandering around the globe, never having a home! It’s pretty difficult, because every time there’s trouble, we’re scapegoated! We’re not the only ones that are scapegoated, but we’re scapegoated!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">By people who are frightened! They don’t care! They are paranoid! You cannot debunk this theory! It is madness, as well as idiocy, to think that the jews brought down the World Trade Center on 9/11! But you cannot argue logic to someone who is mentally ill! What frightens me is that the whole nation is frightened, and that fear is being fueled by this administration, and by the media, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Who is this guy?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Michael Gross, a constitutional lawyer, it says.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> I’ve never seen him any other time, besides this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No, I haven’t either.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[52:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> But it’s weird that he comes on and just, … first of all they’re on a panel with CNN. Everybody is against the conspiracy. Why don’t they have you in the studio to actually have a rebuttal to his arguments?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. Well if you look at this CNN piece, you see how they try to set me up. They asked me if I was anti-semitic. I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“No. This is what they say when you criticize Israeli policy.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then they cut and go to that woman from the ADL, who says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“That’s what they all say!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> When you imply that somehow Israelis were involved in the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, people are gonna look at you, critics will say:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">“<em>You are an anti-semite!</em>”</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">Are you?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5787-Bollyn-Zahn-CNN-interview.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21026" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5787-Bollyn-Zahn-CNN-interview.jpg" alt="" width="633" height="941" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5787-Bollyn-Zahn-CNN-interview.jpg 633w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5787-Bollyn-Zahn-CNN-interview-202x300.jpg 202w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 633px) 100vw, 633px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No, I’m not an anti-semite! This is the main charge that’s leveled against me, and has been for years, even before 9/11, because I am a critic of zionist policies.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Deborah Lauter:</strong> That’s a very common technique among anti-semites, they will twist things.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">“<em>I’m not an anti-semite, I just believe XYZ!</em>”</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[53:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> So it’s with video editing, that’s been done by CNN, this is a hit piece! And this piece aired on TV the night before I was supposed to go on trial.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-25"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Criticism of Israel and Jews involved in 9/11 is “Anti-semitic”!</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Elaborating on the whole “<em>anti-semitic</em>” thing. It’s like literally any criticism of Israel to them, or criticism of people behind 9/11, is anti-semitic. So according to them, they can’t do anything wrong, and there’s nothing, no legitimate criticisms. That’s literally what they, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s not quite what they’re saying. What they’re saying though, is that you cannot criticize Israel, you cannot criticize Israeli crimes. You cannot criticize jewish crimes, or you cannot identify them as being Israeli, or jewish crimes. They’re protected! That’s what they’re saying.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They’re not saying that jews, or Israel doesn’t commit crimes. In my “<em>Solving 9/11</em>” book I have a quote from the former chief of staff of the Israeli military, who says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“That if the truth ever comes out, …” <em>he says</em> “… you will see that Israel has been involved in crimes a thousand times worse than anything going on in Colombia!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[54:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He’s talking about the Colombia drug trade. So it’s not like Israel doesn’t commit crimes. It’s that they want to make it so that it’s a crime to report them! It’s a crime to identify them as Israeli crimes. You know, I don’t write anything about jewish crimes, I’m writing about a crime that was committed by very evil people, who may happen to be Israeli nationals, like Netanyahu, or Michael Chertoff, but that’s as far as it goes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-26"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Solving a Crime Means Going where the Evidence Leads</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, when you investigate a crime, … the reason why I call my book “<em>Solving 9/11</em>”, is, because 9/11, I could see from the very beginning, was not going to be solved! There was no interest in solving 9/11 at all! They gave us a prepared false narrative to go to war, and that’s what we’re supposed to live with.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So when I approach this as an investigative journalist, I looked at it as we’re trying to solve this thing. We’re trying to solve it as a crime. And you look, when you’re solving the crime, you go where the evidence takes you.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-27"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Did You Ever Think You Might Be Wrong?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Did you think that you might be wrong?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5788-Christopher-Bollyn-copy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21036" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5788-Christopher-Bollyn-copy.jpg" alt="" width="854" height="631" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5788-Christopher-Bollyn-copy.jpg 854w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5788-Christopher-Bollyn-copy-300x222.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 854px) 100vw, 854px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> In the beginning, when I first started, I approached it very cautiously. So for the first couple years I was very, very, cautious about what I said, and how I said it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But as I, as my investigation went on, you know, year after year, and I found that at every single point in the matrix, in every single point where a decision had to be made to protect the 9/11 story, to advance the war agenda, and to cover up the truth, I found either an Israeli national, you know, tied to the Israeli government, or an American who was working as a zionist agent.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">People like Larry Silverstein, for example, who was the former national chairman of the “<em>United jewish Appeal</em>”. Michael Chertoff.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Ehud Barak.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. Or, you know,</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Weekly phone calls.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Weekly phone calls, yes. Silverstein had weekly phone calls with Netanyahu. So, then the consistency was a hundred percent! So the question was:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Okay, so are these Israelis all involved in the crime, covering up the crime, promoting the deception to protect some third party, like the Saudis, or the &#8216;German Death Cult&#8217;, or Jesuits?”</span></h3>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-28"><span style="color: #ff0000;">9/11 And the &#8220;War on terror&#8221; an Israeli, Zionist Operation</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Unlikely! So that consistency is compelling. That the nature of the crime we’re dealing with here in 9/11, and the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, is that it’s an Israeli slash zionist operation!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now “<em>zionist</em>”, of course, means much more than the State of Israel. When you talk about the “<em>zionist establishment</em>” you’re talking about the Rothschilds as well, you’re talking about the zionist international, that is located around the world.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> You mentioned the Jesuits. I hear a lot that the Jesuits control the zionists, or the zionists created the Jesuits to take out the Catholic Church. Where do the Jesuits fit into the whole zionist 9/11 scenario, if at all?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[57:02]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-29"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What About Jesuits, Rothschilds, Rockerfellers?</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> I don’t know. I don’t see any hallmarks of a Jesuit operation here. It’s an Israeli thing. But there are other players, you know, like Mr Mueller from the FBI. He came on the scene seven days before, but he was the junior man on the totem pole. Above him, he had Michael Chertoff telling him what to do. Or Rudy Giuliani, or, you know, Governor Pataki.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But in every case you find that these people were not the masterminds, but there was a another person who had very clear ties to Israel who was the person making the decisions.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> How about the Rothschilds, and the Rockefellers? I’ve got a friend who’s a big-time 9/11 guy. He thinks that Rockefellers planned 9/11 when they built the towers in the 50s, I believe, it was. What part do you believe the Rockefellers played?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[58:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I don’t think that they planned to destroy the towers as they did, because the towers were destroyed using a form of nano-thermite that was only invented in the 1990s. Whether they had this idea down the road that they would destroy these towers, I don’t know.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-30"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Predictive Programming, Arnon Milchan, and Rupert Murdoch</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> What do you think about all the predictive programming? Are they coincidences, or is it the Israeli controlled media putting it out there in the public consciousness? Like, they did with the “<em>Medusa Touch</em>”. If the “<em>Medusa Touch</em>” is predictive programming, then you have to think “<em>Lone Gunmen</em>” and all these other things that we’ve seen.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, I don’t know why they do that. But like you said, the “<strong><em>Lone Gunmen</em></strong>” episode that was done by, again, Arnon Milchan’s business partner, Rupert Murdoch, made that film. It aired on Fox TV six months before 9/11. It depicted a passenger aircraft being remotely hijacked and flown into the World Trade Center. You know, this is pretty uncanny prediction.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[59:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s like, why they did that? Why do they do things like that? I don’t know. Some people say that it’s, because they want to lower their “<em>karmic debt</em>”. I don’t know how that lowers your karmic debt, but, …</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Like black magic, or something?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> A law that they have to, …. You write in your book, you speculate that the filming of “<em>The Lone Gunman</em>” may have been part of the final planning for 9/11.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well, I mean, in the sense that they used helicopters and they flew at night across Manhattan, across in the flight path. When they filmed the plane coming into the World Trade Center, that footage they needed, they did it at night, they flew a helicopter. And that, you know, they’re flying the path that the planes took that hit the World Trade Center so, you know, why was that done? I don’t know. But what they’re doing is that they were visualizing, they were manifesting, filming an attack very similar to what happened six months later, or a year later.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[60:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, you can see that there’s certainly the potential for getting some information that they would need for the actual attack.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-31"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Alternative Media, Controlled Opposition, and Alex Jones</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So we know that mainstream media is zionist controlled, or zionist sympathizers, and they’re not going to cover 9/11. How about the alternative media and controlled opposition in the alternative media? In particular Alex Jones — tell me about Alex Jones.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I don’t know Alex Jones that well. I don’t watch him, but I’ve been on his show years ago, and I’ve been in touch with him by phone. I think the last time was about 2006, or 2005. And he, I guess, he doesn’t go to 9/11 truth regarding the Israelis. But I’ve seen some things, you know, some of the videos you’ve brought out, where he talks about being visited by the Mossad. And he says something like:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Israel wasn’t the only country behind 9/11.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, that’s interesting that he says that. But, …</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[61:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> He’s spreading the blame and pointing fingers elsewhere. All he talks about is 28 pages, Saudia Arabia, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> But he admits in that video where he talked about the Mossad visiting, that Israel had a role. He does say that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the alternative media can be just as controlled as the mainstream media, because media requires money. Alex Jones has quite an operation. I don’t know how his operation is funded, but I can tell you that 9/11 truth, like I do, it’s not a lucrative thing at all! You pay a big price for it. And when the mainstream media requires funding to produce their product, the people who fund the operation will call the tune.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> A few years ago you were on your book tour and you stopped in Austin Texas and you reached out to, I think you said four people that worked for Infowars, so for sure they got the message, you were there.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[62:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p>You’re the leading 9/11 researcher, you’ve broken the whole story, travel around the world. You’re essentially like the leader of the 9/11 truth movement! I don’t want to put that on you, but you essentially are. You’ve got the best books, you pointed out who did it, you’re traveling the country. And Alex Jones made his name on 9/11, but he won’t even have you on as a guest anymore!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Even when people call in and say you got to read this book, you got to, &#8230; How serious can he be about 9/11, if he ignores you?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, yeah that’s very good point. You know, it seems that he’s been created to be this voice of the opposition, but only goes so far. That he doesn’t want to, you know, he doesn’t want to give me any air time to discuss 9/11 truth as it is.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Have you thought about calling in the show?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I’ve been to Austin twice. No, I never thought about calling in. I’ve been to Austin twice. He’s been invited both times, and he has never responded.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> He’s completely abandoned 9/11 truth. He doesn’t talk about it anymore at all!</p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-32"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What About the Bible, and the “Synagogue of Satan”?</span></h3>
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<p>What do you think about, like the Bible, and talking about the “<em>Synagogue of Satan</em>”?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[63:04]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh well, that’s from book of Revelation. Yeah they talk about these imposters in the jewish faith who, you know, are not jews, but are the “<em>Synagogue of Satan</em>”. And, you know, Christ said the same thing when he talked about the Pharisees, and the Scribes, and said they were the “<em>spawn of Satan</em>”. You know, it’s very, very harsh words, but there’s a lot of truth in that. Because when you understand that the Talmud, the Rabbinical interpretation of the Torah, stands the Torah on it’s head, and negates the teachings of the Moses, Mosaic law, you know, that you’re dealing with the corruption of the religion! The corruption of the scripture!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21056" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible.jpg" alt="" width="453" height="640" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible.jpg 453w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible-212x300.jpg 212w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 453px) 100vw, 453px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">As we see with the<strong> Scofield Bible</strong> for Christians. It’s like, when people change the scripture to suit their agenda, that’s pretty, it can be very evil.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when they say that in the end times — I hope we’re not in the end times! But there are times of great deception and there will be false prophets, etc. We see this around us all the time, this is reality today. We live in a very, a very strange and uncomfortable reality where this is primarily, this is a religious, this is a spiritual war! But any war between truth and falsehood, and light and dark, is a spiritual battle. And when your country and your fellow citizens are so deceived, when your nation is deceived, that is a very evil thing!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[65:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when you consider the evilness of 9/11, then the evilness of the deception, is just as bad as the crime of mass murder. So it’s a spiritual battle.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-33"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Your Letter to the Pope, Did He Respond?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Speaking of spiritual battle, you wrote a letter to the Pope about 9/11 truth, and did they respond to that at all?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No! No, I wrote an open letter to the Pope and I sent him a hard copy of the letter. And I thought that the head of the Catholic Church should speak out about the deception that we’ve been under about 9/11! Because this deception has been used to take the nation, and the world, to war against another religion, against another faith, against Islam!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so this is a very, very big thing! And it requires leadership from our religious leaders to quell the fire! To explain to people, to the faithful, that we’ve been deceived, and that these wars are not justified! That’s not a hard thing to do, but apparently there’s no interest in the religious community, in the academic community, or in our political establishment, to do any of that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That gives you an idea of how deeply entrenched this deception is!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[66:02]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-34"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What is Hindering People from Speaking Out?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> It’s so easy for you and me, and so many people we know, to see the deception and want to be passionate and speak out about it. What do you think is hindering so many other people, blocking them from doing it?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, it’s a hard thing to do! I mean, just intellectually grappling with 9/11 truth and embracing it, means that you have to come to the conclusion that your government has been lying to you for 16 years! In the greatest democracy in the world? And that our media is hardly free, but our media is complicit in the 9/11 cover-up! These are very hard pills to swallow for an American. We grew up thinking that we live in a free country, and that we have a free media, and that the truth prevails!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[67:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And to see that none of that is true, and that we’re living in a very strange place where the government, the media, the institutions, that we believe in, can no longer be trusted. That shows that we’re on the verge of something new! We’re on the cusp of a new beginning! But it also means that it’s very hard for the average person to cope with, to accept!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> I hear the debunkers all the time say that:</p>
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<h3>“It’s more comforting for 9/11 conspiracy theorists to think that there’s a conspiracy behind everything, and that world view is more comforting to us.”</h3>
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<p>What do you say to that? Are you more comforted to know that 9/11 was it was an inside job, or would you wish, would it be better if you believed the official story?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, the official story is a conspiracy theory as well! So let’s put that to rest. It’s like what the government has said has never been proven, regarding Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I’m a investigator, an investigative journalist who has found, you know, leads and conclusions as to who’s behind the 9/11 crime.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[68:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s not a theory! It’s an investigation!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s my attempt to solve the crime that changed our country.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But there’s nothing comfortable about, &#8230; There can be no comfort at all in believing a false narrative which we’ve been given. I think that it’s much more comforting to know the truth! To understand who is really behind 9/11! To understand who’s behind the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, because then you’ll realize that things aren’t nearly as bad as they make them out to be.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, we are not on the verge of a religious war with Islam. Islam is not trying to break down the doors and to destroy us as a civilization, or a nation. This has all been, this is all fear that’s been imposed on us.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[69:02]</strong></span>.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, to be in deception, to be in fear, to be deceived, is a much worse place to be, than to have some truth. The truth is, like it says in the Bible:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The truth will set you free!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But to be deceived and to accept the deception, knowing that it’s a deception, is a very unenviable place to be.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> I got three more questions. Two of them are, … I’m just gonna kind of lead you into two of the things. These are two of the things from your book that were new to me, that I thought were very powerful pieces of information.</p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-35"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Shimon Perez Wanting to Frighten the West into Supporting Israel&#8217;s Aims</span></h3>
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<p>Number one is Shimon Perez and Moshe Shalit. There’s a quote in there about that Perez wants to frighten the West into supporting Israel’s aims! That is so incriminating! And to follow your whole thesis of what happened in the 70s, and right in the 80s, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Can you, …?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah that was a quote by the Prime Minister of Israel at the time, Moshe Sharett. And Shimon Peres had had been one of the masterminds of a terrorist operation in Egypt against American and British targets, libraries, cultural institutions, in which they had put nitroglycerin bombs into these places. You know, in order to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, and to drive a wedge between the United States, and Britain, and the Egyptian government at the time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Shimon Peres was one of the masterminds, along with Pinhas Lavon and Moshe Dayan. And when the Prime Minister discovered this, he wrote in his journal what he said about about Shimon Peres wanting to frighten the West, just like Pinhas Lavon.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So this is in the early 1950s. So Israel was carrying out false flag terror operations in Egypt, in the early 1950s, in order to drive a wedge between the United States and the leading Arab country, Egypt. They haven’t changed that, you know, and Shimon Peres was the President and a high-ranking Israeli politician when 9/11 happened.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[71:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think when 9/11 happened he was actually Foreign Minister. But in any case, that is his <em>modus operandi</em>, that’s how he has always functioned. That’s been the Israeli method ever since the creation of the State of Israel, to scare the West into supporting Israel’s aims. And that’s where we are today!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s where all this terrorism, fear of terrorism, fear of Islam, comes at us from the media, and the zionists. Because they want us to be afraid, and paralyzed, so that we will be willing to wage war against the Islamic world, and the Arab states, that they target.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21057" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg" alt="" width="614" height="902" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg 614w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents-204x300.jpg 204w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 614px) 100vw, 614px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah. Watch any clip of Netanyahu at the United Nations, or addressing Congress, and that’s all he talks about, is the fear of Iran, and the fear of al-Qaeda, the fear of Iraq, and how we need to act, because they’re all building bombs to kill us!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[72:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Because the whole “<em>War on Terror</em>” construct only works if the public is afraid. And it’s like, that’s the point of my work, is to undeceive people, and to show them that this terrible monster that’s in the darkness, isn’t really there at all! It’s all an artificial construct! And when people realize that it’s like a <strong><em>Wizard of Oz</em></strong> play, it’s like somebody, you know, trying to scare you by waving something scary in front of your face. It’s not real! The reality is much less scary than the deception!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s why my book “<em>Solving 9/11</em>”, I have the light coming over, because in the darkness, when people are in the darkness, you know, their fears manifest and scare them out of their wits! But when you’re dealing with reality, you know, it’s something that’s much easier for a person to cope with.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-36"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Who Were the Top Three People Involved in Planning 9/11?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Can you name me like the top three people you think we’re involved with planning 9/11?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[73:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, the people at the top who planned 9/11, these would be people in Israeli military intelligence, whose names would not mean much to anybody. But at a political level, I would say that it would be Shimon Peres. I would think Benjamin Netanyahu, because he’s been the promoter of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” agenda since 1979. I would think Shaul Eisenberg, Mr. Big in China for the Israeli Mossad. I think Ehud Barak, not a Likudnik, but I think Ehud Barak played a key role. And I would say also Areil Sharon.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5794-Both-911-and-War-on-Terror-planned-by-Israeli-Military-Intelligence-in-the-70s.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21031" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5794-Both-911-and-War-on-Terror-planned-by-Israeli-Military-Intelligence-in-the-70s.jpg" alt="" width="974" height="732" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5794-Both-911-and-War-on-Terror-planned-by-Israeli-Military-Intelligence-in-the-70s.jpg 974w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5794-Both-911-and-War-on-Terror-planned-by-Israeli-Military-Intelligence-in-the-70s-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5794-Both-911-and-War-on-Terror-planned-by-Israeli-Military-Intelligence-in-the-70s-768x577.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 974px) 100vw, 974px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then going back one generation, men who were still alive when 9/11 happened, or just recently deceased. Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir. These would be the political players that, you know, except for Shaul Eisenberg, he’s not very well known, but the rest of them are people who Americans understand who these people were.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, these people were terrorists, absolute terrorists! They always use terrorism!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir, they murdered the UN envoy to Palestine, Folke Bernadotte in 1948! They bombed the King David hotel in 1946! They massacred Palestinians in Deir Yassin and other villages. I mean, these are bonafide real terrorist leaders! In fact, Menachem Begin took the mantle of being the father of terrorism in the whole world!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, when terrorism then happens, when their agenda goes through and their people commit terrorism, what’s the problem? Yeah! Why is it anti-semitic?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I lived in Israel when Menachem Begin came to power. And it was a very sad day for people from the Labour Party, because they realized that the terrorists had taken power!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[75:00]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-37"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Menachem Begin, the Father of Terrorism</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> There’s a quote in your book about, I think, it’s Ben Gurion, they say he’s the “<em>king of terrorism</em>”! And he goes “<em>the king of terrorism in the world!</em>” He corrected him, like they brag about their terrorism! It’s no secret, right?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Of the history of terrorism, of the Mossad and the Irgun.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. That was Menachem Begin who said that, when he was asked. And he said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“What is it like to be the father of terrorism in Middle East?”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“In the Middle East?”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“In all the world!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, that’s the reason why zionist history is not taught in American schools! Because if American universities taught the history of zionism, you would know! You would understand the evilness, and the terrorist nature, of the zionist project! Because it, the State of Israel, was born in terrorism, and has survived with terrorism ever since!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> You touch in your book, the last chapter, a Muslim guy was writing it, right? Who wrote the last chapter?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> It was the Nation of Islam research group.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-38"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Your Place in History When the Truth of 9/11 is Known?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Research group. They talked about the significance of your work in history. And I’d like to ask you how often do you think about your place in history, and what will people write about you hundreds of years from now, if the truth is known about 9/11?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[76:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I don’t know. I don’t think about that, that often. It’s been 16 years I’ve been working on this, and it’s been a very, a very big effort, you know, it took a lot of time, and a lot of energy. And it’s cost, it’s had a lot of costs for me and my family.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, I just hope that people will waken up and realize what’s happened to this country. And if my work contributes to that, to that awakening, if my work contributes to shortening the “<em>War on Terror</em>” by one day, if my work contributes to the prosecution and indictment of the people who carried out 9/11, that will be the best reward!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[77:01]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-39"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Do You Ever Fear for Your Life for Exposing the People Behind 9/11?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> A Pulitzer for a hundred years! So, there’s very bad guys who you’re exposing here. You’ve literally solved, you’ve uncovered the motive, the people behind it. Do you fear for your life when you go out in public and people are protesting? There very well could be somebody violent that wants to shut you up for exposing these crimes.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. Well I’m cautious and everything like that. I try to be as careful as possible. But to think that this, that the criminal network behind 9/11 is all powerful and able to reach anywhere, … yeah, they are criminal network, but they’re men like you and I, and their life goes on. Many of them have died. Many of them have moved on to other things. They have accomplished, they have gotten what they wanted!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[77:57]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They got the “<em>War on Terror</em>”! They got it all! The “<em>War on Terror</em>” in spades! They’ve got terrorism going on in Europe, and America! They’ve got the wars going on in half a dozen countries! They’ve destroyed Syria! They’ve destroyed Iraq! They’ve destroyed Afghanistan! They’ve destroyed Libya! They got what they wanted!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, for me to be explaining, my side of this and explaining what the war on terrorism is all about, I guess they have nothing, no problem, with that. It’s like they’ve achieved their goal. They’ve achieved billions and billions of dollars. They’ve disrupted the Middle East! They’re redrawing the map of the Middle East! You know, nothing has stopped them!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they’re destroying this country! That’s really important!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And anybody who has any patriotic feeling for the United States of America, should engage in 9/11 truth and demand an end of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”! And demand accountability from the people in the media and the government who have covered up this crime for 16 years. It’s just outrageous!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[79:02]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-40"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Everyone Needs to Read Bollyn&#8217;s Books!</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> It is outrageous! I agree. Every 9/11 truther needs to read these books. If you haven’t you’re completely uninformed! These are the best books about 9/11. I’ve read both of them several times. “<strong><em>Solving 9/11 the Deception that Changed the World</em></strong>” and the “<strong><em>War on Terror — the Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. The “<em>War on Terror</em>” and “<em>9/11</em>” go hand in hand. They’re essentially the same crime.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Chris has sacrificed a lot for this information. He’s a man of courage and integrity! I appreciate you so much for sitting down and taking the time with me.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Thank you very much.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Thank you. And everybody needs to read these books and share the information with everybody you know. Any last words Chris?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well thank you very much, and I couldn’t agree more on the need to understand that we’ve been deceived about 9/11. And we’ve been deceived for a reason. And the reason is to take us into this long open-ended criminal war in the Middle East, and elsewhere. And in order to end the deception, we need to increase awareness. And the more people who become aware of 9/11, and the lies of 9/11, will understand the lies of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. That we’ve been deceived into war.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The war agenda will destroy this nation! It will impoverish this nation! It will destroy this nation! And it’s incumbent, it’s imperative that any patriotic American do their utmost to expose the deception and end the war!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Thank you very much.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Thank you.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[80:05]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this YouTube Hangout,<strong> Morgoth</strong>, who runs the blog,<strong> <em>Morgoth&#8217;s Review</em></strong>,  talks with <strong>Based British</strong>, who discusses his Orwellian like experience with &#8220;Prevent&#8221;, an anti-extremist government agency, following some tweets he&#8217;d made earlier this year.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Hello there everybody. I’m joined with Based British who recently had an encounter with the anti-extremism division of the British government which is called “<em>Prevent</em>”. And there was a live stream that went up on his Twitter account, which I thought was really interesting, because then you actually got to hear what these agents, like, where they were coming from, and what they were trying to do. So, how we doing Based British, alright?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> I’m doing very well, thank you very much. Just came back from a little day out with my family, so yeah I’m having a good day. It’s supposed to be nice weather today, so I’m in a good mood, yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I’ve had a good day, as well.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> I’m in a good mood, that’s why I accepted this live stream, to come on.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> All right.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> If you catch me any other day I would have been very, very hesitant.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> All right. What I thought was interesting about, let’s, &#8230; How many times have Prevent been to your home?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> To my home? Let me think, they’ve been about, to the house I live in, about, let me think, twice. They’ve came in the house twice, at least. And I’ve seen them about three, or four times. So they came into the house twice and I’ve seen him three, or four times. And well, the first time they came was, I think it was early April. And they pretty much, you know, they knocked on the door, I opened it, I was like, I was very puzzled as to who these people were.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But at the same time I was kind of expecting something like this to happen, one day, and it finally happened, you know, that pretty much the “<em>thought police</em>” arrived on my door! So once again …</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Was this, you know, posting on Twitter?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Oh, what was that?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> There they took an interest in you, because, like what you were posting on Twitter?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yes, from my Twitter post.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And what, so what was the nature of the twitter, because I think we have to get, we have to kind of get into this, because were you talking about burning down mosques, or race war, or anything like that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Well nothing like that! No, because I’m not stupid! I’m not gonna be saying things like that! Once again I, yeah, I mean, there’s no where wit, or, you know, there’s nothing more to it other than just like, you know, let’s take a violent action right now. I mean, look, nothing good can come out of that, you know, burning down mosques and all that. There’s nothing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> At this time, nothing good can come from that! So look, all I posted it was for the most part ninety percent of the time, it was facts and the other ten percent was, … well like everyone else I get angry sometimes I guess, especially after Charlottesville, … During Charlottesville. And I think I posted some very, yeah, angry comments during that day, and a couple of days afterwards. Oh my goodness I was so angry with how that day went. And yeah so I think most people were at the time were, so I’m not the only one.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Nope!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I want to know if they had genuine cause to think you were gonna go off the deep end, or if it was more that they just didn’t like the historical, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> No! No! Not at all! It’s absolutely, it’s ludicrous to consider that I could possibly ever become violence, like a violent terrorist. I mean, that’s just ridiculous! Saying it is ridiculous! You know, anyone that knows me, knows that well, of course, I’m not a violent person! Not a violent person in the least bit, I’m actually, it’s just, it’s ludicrous! It really is! But then again this is obvious to most people.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> It’s just, I know too much. I mean, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, I took a browse of your twitter. A few weeks ago I did a blog post when you did the periscope thing.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And it was sort of like the history of banking and, you know, (((who’s))) being involved in British history and stuff like.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah, I mean, the bottom line is that they just don’t want me to offend certain groups of people. Now, of course, people can be racist to Whites all day, every day, 24/7. And no one really bats an eye, you know, these people don’t bat an eye. They don’t give a rat’s ass about White racism, anti-White racism I should say. It’s just certain groups of people, namely black people, and jewish people, that you really cannot criticize, without, … oh well, also some Muslims I guess, without fearing any sort of backlash to go with it, so, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Do you think the Prevent people who arrived, these agents, actually thought that you were in danger of doing something violent, or extreme, or anything like that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> At the end the day these people, these two men, are just doing the job, right? And I don’t hold any personal contempt for these people. But I think the question to ask is that do they genuinely believe that I am capable of becoming violent and acting on my impulses? You know, am I capable of becoming a right-wing extremist, or terrorist? That thing, we have to ask ourselves. Do these people genuinely believe?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Or are they just doing their job, right? I don’t think at all that these two guys think I am capable of going up there and committing some kind of heinous crime! I genuinely don’t believe it. Because, once again I’ve got completely clean record, completely clean record! I have no prior involvement in any crimes, whatsoever. I’ve never even talked to like, you know, I’ve never had to go down to a police station! I’ve never had anyone visit the police station.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But once again, it’s just I have a completely clean record, and I’m obviously a very civil person. I mean, a good person, a civil person. So, yeah I genuinely don’t believe that these people believe in their heart I’m capable of becoming a terrorist! I don’t believe it. It’s just a job.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It was purely ideological, I think.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> What?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It was ideological, why they were there. I mean, what interests me is that whether they’re just using this, these sort of anti-terrorism thing, as a way to clamp down on people who are ideologically problematic?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah, I think it’s just to — let me just say, I mean, once again, I ought to speak about, and I could go back to the very first meeting, which I touched upon earlier.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But a very interesting thing was said during the first time they arrived, they came, our first interactions. Very interesting thing was said. One of them, which he seemed to be, there definitely was a good cop, bad cop routine that was being played. One was the good cop, one was a bad cop. And the “<em>bad cop</em>” that’s just, quote, unquote. The bad cop practically admitted that they both were there that day to intimidate me! That is what he said, in his own words.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, I might be paraphrasing but that is what he said! They were both there that day to intimidate me, as well as obviously to, you know, pretending, you know, trying to stop me from posting anything more!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Just stop right there people! Stop speaking the truth! Stop knowing what you do! You know, stop speaking about this particular group of people!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So yeah, I’ll always remember that. That is what they said and I’m being totally honest about that. They said they were there that day to intimidate me! And I admit it worked. I mean, what do you expect? These two officers appear, out the blue, on my doorstep. And they request that I go with them in their car, for a little chat! I mean, Jeez, who wouldn’t be? Who wouldn’t be intimidated by the, … who wouldn’t be afraid, either? It’s just very ominous! Very, very strange, you know, it’s just, yeah, it’s just weird! It’s just very creepy.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> I mean, that is the “<em>Thought Police</em>” there! That is 1984, Orwellian Thought Police, right there!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, it is. And did they ask you if you have any violent thoughts, or anything like that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Oh they asked a bunch of questions like that, and obviously I always responded with “<em>No, of course not!</em>”, because it’s the truth! I never, I never wish harm on anyone else at all. I wish, I wish, I just won’t change through educating people. I don’t want change by harming anyone! Obviously, I don’t want the harm anymore.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I see change through educating the masses, you know. And in doing that, change becomes inevitable! But, I said that last time on Big Kayla’s stream, that if you advocate for violence on the right, then I don’t want anything to do with you! I think most of us would agree with that. We don’t want anything to do with anyone calling for violence!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> No.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> At all! And anyone that does commit violence in our name is shunned from the right-wing. Is shunned from our movement. From the, you know, nationalist groups and all this. We don’t tolerate it, we don’t stand for it, at all! Because we are not these types of people, you know what I mean?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yup! So really they were able to find out who you were and then they didn’t like basically this sort of JQ being discussed on social media?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Exactly! We’re not like the Left, you see. We don’t have groups like antifa. You know, that openly call for the punching quote/unquote “<em>Nazis</em>”! Which, of course, means anyone that’s pro-White, anyone who cares about White people, is just a Nazi! That’s just what it is. Just a proud White man, a proud my person, just a White person that is not self-loathing, that is a Nazi in today’s age.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yes!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> So what they’re pretty much saying, these antifa goons and all these, you know, extreme leftists, they’re pretty much saying to punch any pro-White individual! Once again, regardless of whether, or not you’re White. Because, you know, there are non-White’s out there that are pro-White.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I’m gonna share a little, … once again, this is just a little, one of my experiences I had. You see, I went to London for a month in May. And what an experience it was! But let me just say, I met with a lot of great people during that time. And I met a lot of members of Generation Identity. And we went to a bar, after the <em><strong>March of Freedom</strong></em>, I think it was called?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> <em><strong>The Day of Freedom</strong></em>.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Sorry it wasn’t a march. <em><strong>The Day of Freedom</strong></em>, that’s it. That’s what I went to, that’s what I went for, to experience that, and to meet other people there. So we went to a pub, all of us after that event, with many Generation Identity members. And one of them was outside, let the others go for a few seconds, and got bottled! He got bottled by these absolutely sadistic, these violent thugs, these antifa thugs! He got bottled by one of these goons, and yeah, he was bleeding profusely, as you can imagine, for quite a while.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the thing, the very interesting thing, Morgoth, was, that he was not White! He was not White! He wasn’t a White man. He was, from what I recall, he was actually like a Muslim.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He was actually like a Middle Eastern type of man. And I will never forget that! So once again you gotta keep in mind that the Left doesn’t care about these people! If any of these individuals, these, you know, there’s Muslims, Middle Eastern people, black people, if any of these people are in any way pro-White, or on the right, then they are just like the rest of us, “<em>Nazis</em>”! Anyway, I’m finished with that story.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yes. So then they turned up for the second time and that’s the one that you recorded. So can you go through that? Because I found that absolutely fascinating, because they didn’t care, … it’s my impression of that was that they didn’t think for a second that you were going to do anything violent. They just wanted to shut you up! That was what it was about.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And what they kept, I mean, I did a blog post on it, just sort of breaking down the bullet points, what was going on there. And their tactics were to sort of say to you:</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah. That’s what’s they said. They just wanted me to fall in line, become a regular, you know, individual. Just leave behind the right-wing and all that. But once again, we all know that once you are “<em>red-pilled</em>” you can never really go back to becoming a normal person. It’s just constantly on your mind, what’s going on. And you can never not be thinking about it really. You just can not go back to the normal regular life, without knowing of our impending doom if we do not act!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> If we don’t spread the information and make changes through educating the masses, as I’ve mentioned earlier. So once again, it’s just like I mentioned in that video, I’m not actually sure if it is in the livestream that I uploaded, because for some strange reason I was locked out by Twitter, during the livestream. So, I’m not sure. The entire meeting lasted for about an hour, I think. But I got a lot of good content in the first, I think like 26 minutes. So I’m pleased about that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But what was said after that was some more small talk about employment opportunities and stuff. But what was said towards the end was, … the bad cop, I mentioned earlier, was, he’s the one that brought up prison and stuff like this.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[17:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He pretty much said that I would not survive in there! You know, they were looking out for me, and they don’t want me to end up in there. And:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>I won’t survive in prison</em>” right?</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And before he went he said to my mother, who was there beside me, that I’m not the biggest criminal he’s ever met, you know, he said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh! He’s not the biggest criminal I’ve ever met, you know, there are worse.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I was like, yeah a “<em>thought criminal</em>”! Yes, it’s just ridiculous.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And they actually said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em>Look, we’re not the ‘Thought Police’.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He actually said that to you in the video.</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em>Don’t worry, we’re not the ‘Thought Police’.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it was like:</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em>We’re just here to give you a little bit of advice, …</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was really weird! I mean, let’s just reiterate here. What we’re talking about if somebody who’s posting stuff on Twitter about central banking and mass immigration! For Christ sake!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[18:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah. I have a National Socialist Germany tweet which documents, … sorry it’s a thread. A Nazi Germany thread and it documents the real hidden history of Nazi Germany, the one you are not supposed to know. And they actually showed this, the first one, the first post, the initial post. They gave that as an example of one of my offending tweets. And I simply said to them, it’s revision, it’s revisionism, you know. What’s wrong with that? There’s nothing, it’s just revisionism! And he replied with.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh, you know, it could offend someone, you know!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s, I think that’s when I said that I get offended sometimes when I’m on Twitter. Just today actually I see some guy, probably jewish, in New Zealand, saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>That there’s two things that New Zealand does not stand for! It’s racism and White South Africans!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[19:10]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I was actually posted a tweet before that’s pretty much just says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Okay, so this guy’s against racism, but he also is extremely racist towards White people!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because in one of his other tweets, he pretty much just said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>He will not debate White people!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He will not debate White people! Because he thinks that we’re ignorant of our colonial past and our White privilege, you know, all of this clichéd bullshit! Yeah, it’s once again, that kind of offends me, you know what I mean?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> But, you don’t see me go to the police station and demanding that this guy be like, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Saying he’s a terrorist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> You know, for hate speech and all this crap! Yeah, he’s in New Zealand, so they could do nothing anyway, of course. But that doesn’t really make a difference. I mean, this guy could be located in London. It wouldn’t matter where he was located, in Scotland, it wouldn’t matter, because they wouldn’t, they’d just probably laugh me off.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[20:09]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because they probably have the mindset that reverse racism isn’t real. You can’t be racist towards Whites, etc., etc, you know. So, even if I wanted to do that, I would know that it would be fruitless. So the thing is, if you are on the Internet you have to learn to be offended and actually just deal with it! That’s the whole point of the internet! You have to deal with criticism, you have to deal with being offended, and if you can’t, well, look! We all know that these people, you can’t criticize the same group of people, because these people are in control! So it comes as no surprise at all.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/The-Kalergi-Plan-Decoded-3719-Flowchart-Is-Someone-a-Racist.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24174" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/The-Kalergi-Plan-Decoded-3719-Flowchart-Is-Someone-a-Racist.jpg" alt="" width="759" height="796" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/The-Kalergi-Plan-Decoded-3719-Flowchart-Is-Someone-a-Racist.jpg 759w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/The-Kalergi-Plan-Decoded-3719-Flowchart-Is-Someone-a-Racist-600x629.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 759px) 100vw, 759px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[21:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> So what was that, what was actually in the tweet that they showed you? Because what I want to get back to here is that these weren’t the “<em>Hate Speech Department</em>”. Prevent is there to “<em>prevent</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All from becoming terrorists. And before I saw your video, I thought, well they’ve got the “<em>Hate Speech Department</em>” over there which is pure “<em>Thought Crime</em>”, and then they’ve got on the Prevent thing, which is usually for Muslims, let’s be honest about it. And it’s as if they are merging the two together. So that if you’re now sort of “<em>politically incorrect</em>”, you’re a potential terrorist! That’s what fascinates me about your story.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Hmm.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> So what was the actual Nazi tweet?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[22:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> The tweet the they showed me, the only one they showed me that day, an example of an offensive tweet they showed me, was as I said, the initial post, my Nazi Germany thread. And it just pretty much states that in this thread we will be exploring the truth about Nazi Germany, in the pre-war years.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We’re gonna be looking at like, Hitler’s rise to power, and why he rose to power, and everything that happened during the thirties which led up to World War Two. I don’t actually go into World War Two itself, because that’s a completely other topic. That would take an entirely new thread. It’s just everything that led up to it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Life-in-the-Third-Reich-—-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21732" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Life-in-the-Third-Reich-—-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="638" height="973" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Life-in-the-Third-Reich-—-COVER.jpg 638w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Life-in-the-Third-Reich-—-COVER-600x915.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 638px) 100vw, 638px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2014/09/09/life-in-the-third-reich/">Life in the Third Reich</a></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> And I just ended by saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>You will not learn this in school.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now once again, obviously, there’s nothing wrong with that, whatsoever! But that’s what they actually showed me. So what they’re saying is that revisionism, this kind of revisionism regarding World War Two, might offend certain people!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah. They’re saying you’re a terrorist for posting it! You&#8217;re a potential terrorist for posting it, is what they’re getting at.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[23:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah. I guess you can look at it that way, yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well it’s Prevent that showed up, not the hate speech police. But that’s the scary thing about all this. So they’re saying it’s one thing if the hate speech police came along, whatever department that is. That will be the normal police and they will talk to you about it for offending people. But it was the anti-terrorist agents which turned up! And they made it clear to you that they didn’t think you were a terrorist, or a potential terrorist, they just wanted to shut you up! They just wanted to scare you, and intimidate you. It’s fucking unbelievable! It really is!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> It is, yeah. It certainly is. I was in contact with a friend today, from London actually, Hugh, he’s familiar with Prevent. And he knows the 16-year-old boy, right? This young boy, this young Gen Z nationalist.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[24:08]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he actually, apparently he showed up to a <strong>Speakers Corner</strong> event. Now, somehow, Prevent became aware of this. I’m not really sure how, but once again, they have their ways. They found the lad, and what I was told, was that they went to his house and they said to him:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Do not go back to Speakers Corner, otherwise you could be put in prison.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I know it sounds unbelievable Morgoth. It sounds like I’m actually lying, but it’s not. This comes more a good friend of mine that actually helped me during my, you know, the last meet up with the Thought Police. Because he knows people, he can give me legal advice and legal aid if need be. But, that’s what he said. A 16-year-old lad showed up at <strong>Speakers Corner</strong> and apparently he was told not to go back by Prevent, otherwise he could land himself in jail one of these days.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Day-of-Freedom-Speakers-Corner-London.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24165" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Day-of-Freedom-Speakers-Corner-London.jpg" alt="" width="1108" height="736" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Day-of-Freedom-Speakers-Corner-London.jpg 1108w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Day-of-Freedom-Speakers-Corner-London-600x399.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Day-of-Freedom-Speakers-Corner-London-1024x680.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Day-of-Freedom-Speakers-Corner-London-768x510.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1108px) 100vw, 1108px" /></a></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And once again, I didn’t really go into much detail. I didn’t badger on about this one story, but that’s what I was told. And apparently he was very, he was obviously, he was upset about this. He was actually quite freaking traumatized about this! As you can expect.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, I asked if he’s on social media? He said that he is, but he’s not that active. I encouraged, I told him to, you know, encourage the boy to be more active. Because the thing is, if he fails to speak up, if he has no voice in real life, or online, they have won. They have successfully intimidated him into being silent. And that’s exactly what they want! They want us people — they want to intimidate us young nationalists into complete silence, through intimidation tactics!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:58]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yes, it’s unbelievable, and I mean, we knew that it was the sort of, the crazy hate, … because I think a lot of people when they think of Britain, they think of the police who are dancing around at pride parades, but ignoring all things, you know, grooming gangs, and things like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the Prevent thing, that’s anti-terrorism! I cannot say it often enough! That’s an anti-terrorist, Special Forces kind of division, and they have sort of co-opted it into being a sort of PC police. And with a lot more power. And that’s why when they started chatting, I really wanted to be kind of, … we have to be clear here you didn’t see anything which could be construed as advocating any kind of violence! Because if that was the case, you could kind of understand why Prevent turned up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Well, I’ll just say this. I have never said anything on Twitter, or online, which I have never seen any non-White say. I mean, once again I’ve seen non-Whites say much worse than I, and many others on our side have ever have. And, of course, they get to keep their accounts, they don’t get doxed, they don’t get fired, they don’t get, you know, they don’t suffer any repercussions! I mean, you’ve obviously heard Morgoth of this recent controversy with this <strong>Jeong</strong>, this anti-White bitch.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Sarah-Jeong-Racist-Tweets.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24171" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Sarah-Jeong-Racist-Tweets.jpg" alt="" width="785" height="911" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Sarah-Jeong-Racist-Tweets.jpg 785w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Sarah-Jeong-Racist-Tweets-600x696.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Sarah-Jeong-Racist-Tweets-768x891.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 785px) 100vw, 785px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> This did this woman who’s recently landed them a job with the <em><strong>New York Times</strong></em>. The anti-White jewish supremacist publication known as the <em><strong>anti New York Times</strong></em>, sorry, <em><strong>The New York Times</strong></em>. And yeah once again, she gets to keep a job! There’s nothing wrong with their calling for the genocide and the extinction of White people, whatsoever!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And you point out, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> And I have obviously never called for the genocide, or extinction of any people! Because obviously, I believe every people should have a right to exist. And every people should have a right to their own homelands. And every people should have control of their own countries and governments. It’s just common sense. So yeah, I see much worse on Twitter, daily. Simply as that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[28:16]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah. One other thing about, just to get back to the Prevent interview that you had, was they wanted to expose you to what they call a different perspective. And they wanted you to meet a jewish man somewhere, and so this jewish man was gonna, you were gonna have a chat with him for an hour or so, and a cup of tea, or whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they were kind of getting into this, … the implication was that you lived in this sort of echo chamber, where you are seeing all of this extremist material, and that if you exposed yourself to counter arguments, then you might come back down the earth. You might stop having these opinions. But the problem with that, I mean, we’re bombarded with a counter-narrative right round-the-clock, day and night!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[29:07]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Uh-huh.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> So did you ever go to meet the jewish man?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">No!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Morgoth starts laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">When he first suggested that, of course, as you can see in the stream, I was like:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>No, I don’t want to meet this person, not interested. I’m only interested in ways you can ‘help me’, quote, unquote! But um, yeah I don’t intend gonna on any of your, sort of brainwashing trips, whatever you wanna call them, anymore meet ups with any people, that you set up, or recommend, or whatnot. I have no interest in that.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Of course, I didn’t. But ultimately I did agree to it. I just did. I just agreed, because once again, what he said in the video was correct. I judge people on an individual basis, of course. I don’t judge every individual as a collective, because there are always outliers in the group.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:08]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But! It became clear that this Jack, this jewish Jack, obviously had preconceived notions about, … I mean, once again I assume that he’s seen my tweets, and he is one of these people that were offended!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">And yeah, he just wants to meet me too, I don’t really know, to discuss his jewish faith — to just correct me — to correct my views on the jewish people, as a whole. I don’t even know what would have been said, to be honest.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> So, Jack was the one that sort of reported you? Or was Jack somebody that Prevent, like a sort of specialist working for Prevent? I’ve got the impression he was some kind of, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> That is a good question actually. Yeah, I personally think he might’ve been like a volunteer, something like that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[31:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> But, it’s possible he took offense to my posts and complained. It’s possible. But, to be honest Morgoth, I know how I came to be. I know the series, the chain of events that led to the Thought Police being my doorstep. I know that!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You see, because I was doxed back in October of last year. Which in I still use my full name. And I still had my Facebook profile out there. Even at the time, even last October, I was very, very, inactive on Facebook. But, they were able to track me down on Facebook.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">This extremely left-wing “<em>historian</em>” found my posts, didn’t like them very much, and told his followers to report me, you know. Obviously they tried to get me fired from my work.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[32:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They found my details through Facebook, and the funny thing is, I never updated my Facebook details, so they actually contacted one of my old places of employment. And they were like:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>He doesn’t work here, what are you talking about?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s quite funny! Kind of like a fail for them. It was quite funny for me. But, if I was that work, I have no doubt that I would be fired. But regardless of which, they found who I was through Facebook. And yeah, ever since then I was pretty much doxed. So that is what led up to the Thought Police appearing on my doorstep in April, I’m certain. And yeah, that’s pretty much a little history of how I had these two gentlemen visiting me, early on this year.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[33:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah. Potential terrorist for posting politically incorrect tweets! It’s beggars belief! And that’s why I just wanted, … I did a blog post on this and I just wanted to get you on me channel for a bit of a banter about it. I mean, do you think they’re gonna come back?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> It’s a good question. Let me just say this. Normally I will be very, obviously, I will be very scared about coming in contact with these people, very scared. Because they rely on intimidation tactics, and the fact that, you know, I just don’t want anything to do with these people! I shouldn’t be having visits from these people, at all!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And of course, I’m a right-wing dissident who got doxed. They may contact me again. The thing is, two days after they visited, I was meant to be meeting this jew on Friday — this is like three weeks ago now — on a Friday. They contacted me on Thursday, they wanted me to phone him to arrange the next day. I never contacted them back! I never met Jack on the Friday! And I actually haven’t heard back from them since.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[34:20]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, whether, or not, they have resorted to contacting my mother again to get to me, which they done last time, you see. I was not contacting them back. I just ceased all communications completely. So they got to me through my mother. They kept on harassing my mother every week:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>We want to meet your son, you know, just a friendly chat! Do you mind if we can arrange it sometimes?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That kind of thing. So they were in intact with my mom. And yeah, I suppose I made a mistake in giving them my mother’s phone number. I made a mistake and I regret that! Because I didn’t have to, but at the time I was you trying to be cooperative, you know.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So yeah, I am not sure, I don’t think they have phoned her up, because I’m sure she would have mentioned it again. But for the time being, they haven’t been in touch since, Morgoth. So, I don’t know. Maybe because, they do monitor my Twitter feed, I do know that. Maybe they’ve caught wind of this live stream, and they want to kind of, I don’t know, maybe, I’m not really sure what to say. Maybe they’re seeing it and they just see kind of, … I’m not really sure how to word it really, but they’re just hesitant in contacting me again, because they knew I could do something like this again, and further expose these people? Perhaps?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, I mean, it really does beggar belief, because it’s so many layers of sort of wrong! Where you can get all the way back to a sort of shit tier, basic sort of liberal argument. Where they say:</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em>Look if somebody doesn’t like what you’re posting on Twitter, you’re not inciting violence.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Let’s take the tweet about the Nazis, and revising what happened in <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[before]</strong></span> World War Two. Well, the standard practice is to argue the point and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Well, no, you’re wrong on this and here’s some counter evidence. Here’s a counter-argument.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s supposed to be how this goes on. Now the second layer of that, where the political correctness comes in, is to say well:</p>
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<p>“<em>You can’t say that, because it’s all lies and it’s probably anti-semitic and, you’re excusing the Nazis and things.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that will be the next layer about it. And we’ve now, in Britain, gone on to yet another tier, where “<em>anti-terrorist</em>” agents come knocking on your door for a chat, and call your mother — again, only because you posted some things on social media about National Socialism, which may, or may not be wrong. But they don’t give a shit! It’s the fact that people are viewing the world this way.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[37:20]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Based:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> It’s mind boggling!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> They couldn’t care less about the truth. They’re simply just there to enforce a liberal ideology. It’s very simple.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> And the really scary thing about this is that the anti-terror agencies in Britain have got much more — as far as I understand, I could be wrong — but my understanding is they’ve got much more power. And I think they did it with <strong>Lauren Southern</strong>, or somebody, a while ago. Where, if you haven’t done anything wrong, but when they send the anti-terror people in for you they can do a lot more to you. They can detain you longer, they can do a lot more than what the police can do. Let alone some lefty goon, who doesn’t have any real power except to call you names.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[38:19]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, that’s the idea, but they’ve got the entire infrastructure of the fuckin state behind them now, including some of the most powerful, sinister, organizations in the country! And it’s absolutely outrageous! Absolutely! It beggars belief!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah, it certainly does. I mean, what you said in your article, which I read, and it’s very good, so thank you for writing that article. It certainly spread the information to other people. And yeah, what you said is that <strong>National Action</strong> sort of gave the government that extra, you know, gave them a reason, gave them their reason to pursue people they deem far-right extremists. And lump them in with being possible, you know, possibly violent individuals. So yeah, does that also, National Action travesty wasn’t beneficial to us at all.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Radicals-The-Proud-Racist-COVER-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24176" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Radicals-The-Proud-Racist-COVER-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="618" height="991" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Radicals-The-Proud-Racist-COVER-Ver-2.jpg 618w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Radicals-The-Proud-Racist-COVER-Ver-2-600x962.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 618px) 100vw, 618px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/09/08/radicals-the-proud-racist-bbc-news-transcript/">Radicals: The Proud Racist — BBC News — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:22]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, they’ve been such a complete clusterfuck! But you do have to think, well it’s as if they handed the government everything they wanted on a plate?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Almost like controlled opposition, eh?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, it does make you wonder, and I’m somebody that gets into trouble, you know, with people who comment on the blog and things like that. That I’m not really, I’m very, very reluctant to get sort of going into conspiracy theories. You know, this or that person is controlling opposition. But I mean, National Action has been such a complete disaster!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I don’t know what really went on there. It’s just like every time I go on <strong><em>The Guardian</em></strong> or <em><strong>The Independent</strong></em>, there’s more of them being locked up! They were gonna murder politicians, … I mean, I’m not familiar with any of that. I’m more just like you, I just like looking at the politics and these, sort of the philosophical sides of things. And exploring it from that angle. And so I’m not an expert on the street groups, or political parties, or anything like that. I don’t really know much about it at all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, National Action have handed them a sort of precedent, of a sort of a nationalistic group. Which, it seems that they were planning to murder people, for Christ sake! So they have got that precedent. They can now say, well they did it. I mean, that the same time, you’ve got the problem where it’s the “<em>not all Muslims</em>” trope as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you just, yeah I mean, you can see their hypocrisy, lining up even if National Action was for real, and they were just a bunch of nutters, or whatever happened there. And you can say “<em>well we’re not all like that</em>”. Well they’re not gonna buy that for a second.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[41:18]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I thought what was interesting as well, which I touched on before, was the way — and I got into this on a stream with Millennials the other day — I mean, if they’re gonna go, … Because Prevent are usually, and the bulk of their activity is going to be talking to Muslims. It even say that on the Wikipedia page.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I wonder if they’re gonna try and sell liberalism to the Muslims, because that’s basically what they were saying to you. It was like, well it was a sort of appeal to popularity. An appeal to popular opinion, where you do have these kind of kooky, fringe ideas, and they’re not gonna do you much good, getting a job, and all of that kind of thing. That’s basically what they were trying to do then. And I don’t know why it’s their job to do that, but there you go. And I wonder if they use the same tactics with Muslims?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[42:27]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah I’m thinking they have different tactics when dealing with Muslims.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah, so do I.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> I think there’s an echo right now. I think it’s gone now. That’s good, because I hate (((echoes))), it you puts me off completely</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, I’m sure they have different tactics when dealing with Muslims, because they know that they’re sort of like a different “<em>breed</em>” of hate if you get what I’m saying. They’re just different people, pretty much in what they think and, you know, their ideology and stuff.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[43:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lauren-Southern-at-Lakemba-with-Police.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24169" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lauren-Southern-at-Lakemba-with-Police.jpg" alt="" width="1199" height="714" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lauren-Southern-at-Lakemba-with-Police.jpg 1199w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lauren-Southern-at-Lakemba-with-Police-600x357.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lauren-Southern-at-Lakemba-with-Police-1024x610.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lauren-Southern-at-Lakemba-with-Police-768x457.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1199px) 100vw, 1199px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But yeah, Lauren Southern is pretty much established recently that Sharia law has indeed taken many areas of Australia now. I’m not sure, I forget the place that she went to</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Lakemba, a Muslim suburb of Sydney]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> It was a particular area in which she was not permitted to film. One of the police officers told her that if she went there and filmed, these Muslims in this mosque, she will probably be attacked, you know, physically harmed.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lakemba-Mosque-Sydney.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24168" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lakemba-Mosque-Sydney.jpg" alt="" width="695" height="567" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lakemba-Mosque-Sydney.jpg 695w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lakemba-Mosque-Sydney-600x489.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 695px) 100vw, 695px" /></a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lakemba-Mosque-Sydney-Inside.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24167" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lakemba-Mosque-Sydney-Inside.jpg" alt="" width="940" height="627" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lakemba-Mosque-Sydney-Inside.jpg 940w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lakemba-Mosque-Sydney-Inside-600x400.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-Lakemba-Mosque-Sydney-Inside-768x512.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Lakemba Mosque, Sydney, outside and inside.</span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So once again, Sharia law is now in many areas of Australia and, in many parts of Britain, of course, in many parts of France. I mean, this is just a trademark of Sharia law really, isn’t it? Just a lack of free speech. Free speech does not, and cannot exist under Sharia law!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[44:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Hmm. Well I mean, if they were, let’s see it was a young Muslim’s house and they turned up, I think the general attitude would have been much less about the threats and intimidation that you got. And it would be much more, it will be much more carrot than stick, I think. They’d be trying to tempt them with all of these great things the West, liberalism, has to offer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Look what you’re gonna lose! Look what we have look at all these nice things we can give! You just don’t go off the deep end.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas with your case, it was sort of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>For your own good you better get back on the liberal plantation and just keep your mouth shut!</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> That’s pretty much it, yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I think that’s the difference there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah, I mean, it will be interesting to see how they handle the Islamic extremists, wouldn’t it. We both know, as well as many others now, how they deal with “<em>right-wing extremists</em>” quote-unquote! It gives you a little glimpse into how they deal with White people! Let’s just say how they deal with White indigenous people.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:22]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah. I mean, it’s a terrifying thing! I’d like to just wind it down soon. I mean, have you got anything else, or you want to get into about this, or something touching on it? I mean, would they come back? I mean, do you think about what you’re posting on Twitter now, since that the anti-terrorist squad have been to your door?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> I certainly have toned it down, but that’s actually mostly to, … it’s like a measure to prevent getting banned again for the umpteenth time from Twitter. But I have definitely toned it down now. I just usually deal with, you know, the threads that I make and I usually just like to point things out with a witty, or humorous little take to it.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[46:07]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I very rarely express any anger through it. Sometimes to do obviously, but I don’t really use anything that could be classed as being hateful, or anything like that. It’s very difficult though. It’s very difficult to be a right-wing on Twitter! It’s so difficult now. Candace Owens recently actually posted a tweet in which it was one of, was it Jeong’s tweet? One of her tweets? This new New York Times employee.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-CandaceOwens.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24163" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-CandaceOwens.jpg" alt="" width="682" height="859" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-CandaceOwens.jpg 682w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Discussing-Prevent-With-Based-British-CandaceOwens-600x756.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 682px) 100vw, 682px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> She posted “<em>????</em>” right, one of her tweets, “<em>??????</em>” but switched White people to jewish people, and she was locked out. It was deleted. She was locked out for 12 hours! How elucidating is that?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[47:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I mean, their hypocrisy is so obvious, that everybody can see it and the response to that is not change the culture, or do anything about it, but just give White people the knuckle duster, if they start to speak too loudly about it, or look too much into it. And you’ll just get people kicking your door down and saying your potential terrorist!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because in theory, if they can say you’re a potential terrorist and then they can say, and I mean, they can say almost everybody’s a potential terrorist! It’s just this sort of net they can cast out on everybody with extra harsh measures and power behind it. And they only exist in the first place, because of the mass immigration which the system wanted!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[48:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I mean, I’m sure there’s these political strategies of, … what do they call it now? Anarcho-tyranny, where they have imported the problem, and then their reaction to the problem, is to come down harder on us! But the problem created the need for that agency in the first place. It’s unbelievable! It’s bizarro world!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> It is! I mean, honestly some of the things I see in Twitter and other websites, news articles and stuff, I’m just like:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>We’re truly living in a crazy, you know, just a truly insane world right now!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s just insane! Liberalism has made this world insane! People are losing the minds! People are losing their minds! I just can’t believe some of this stuff I see! It’s just unbelievable! It really is. It’s just unbelievable what kind of a world we are living in currently, it really is.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[49:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And once again, I mean, I want children! I never, before I was red-pilled, I mean, I wanted children, I guess. But now I want a big family, I want as many children as I can! And I, of course, do not, this is the thing right, I do what I do online, and what I hope, you know, I want to do more things in real life, of course. That’s what I hope to do in the future, to become more active in real life activism.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I do what I do online, and I say what I say, because I care about the future of our country, our people, our ancestors, and my children, and our children! And I just don’t want to be bringing them up in a world in which were currently heading! I don’t want to bring them up in a completely liberalized world, in a country which is a complete shell of it’s former self. And not just that, but it’s an embarrassment! It’s a cultural Marxist Britain, Marxist Britain! So, I don’t want to be bringing them up in a country like that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The only reassurance I would have is that there is a big right-wing populist revolution, and revolt. That will at least give me some incentive for the children, so they can participate in this future right-wing revolution!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Well, we’ll working on that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> If there wasn’t this major right-wing revival that we’re seeing in the West, in the Americas right now, particularly America, of course, then I will be, … to be honest Morgoth, I don’t even know, I mean, I’ll just be so depressed! I just be so, so depressed man! Because knowing this information and having to be silent, and not having anyone to really speak about it with, you know, without alienating yourself from these people.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[51:09]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yup!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> It’s just a very lonely existence, and it would drive me insane! It really would. Knowing about what’s going on, knowing about what has gone on, or is going on, what will go on, if I don’t act, if we don’t act. And seeing no major change in our countries, no indication that there’s any change in the foreseeable future, that could be possible, I would be extremely depressed young man, I can tell you that! I really would. I say this as often as possible, it’s people like you that make me happy. That keep me going, keep me sane.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> I mean, the contradictions are just too much! You can say with all honesty you can have a society based on these sort of, what they call “<em>liberal values</em>” but, it’s why I think your story’s so important to get out there on whatever little platform I have, is because you can show the contradiction. And you can say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“Well, you can have this liberal society if you want, but you do need a police state to keep it all together!”</em></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[52:20]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the fact that anti-terrorist police turn up at people’s doors, because of things they’ve said about World War Two, is very, very, close to a police state! And they don’t want that! They don’t want this <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[garbled]</strong></span>. We aren’t the extremists, at the end of the day! The people running the fucking country are the extremists!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Yeah, we are the extremists in the eyes of the people who currently control our governments, because they know that ultimately, if anyone is going usurp their power, it’s gonna be us! It’s gonna be our influence that it’s gonna contribute to that, and they’re gonna, they’re trying to silence the best of us, well any of us really. But especially those with a lot of subscribers, a lot of followers, with a wide reach, with a wide audience.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[53:08]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And yes they’re gonna go after them ones, really hard! Especially when I made it as easy as I did there, last year to dox myself. So it’s just something we have to deal with.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> All right, I think we’ll wind it done and enjoy the rest of my Sunday night. You got any parting shots there?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Have I got what?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Have you got any final words?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Final words, final thoughts?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Not in particular, no. I just hope, well I’m certain now that my decision to actually record it, was very beneficial, very beneficial indeed. A lot of people reached out to me, came in support and I really appreciate that. So once again to everyone that did that, thank you very much, I appreciate that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[54:09]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> We’ll get you on another hangout in the future. And if anything else happens, just get in touch and be sure to record it. We’ll get somebody who is a bit more savvy with YouTube, to get the whole thing on it, video or something.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Uh-hmm. Once again, I’ll definitely keep you up to date on my interactions with them and if they contact me and whatnot. I’ll keep you posted.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Morgoth:</strong> All right! Cheers! Well, I think that’s a wrap really. Thanks for listening everybody. And we’ll see you later. Thanks a lot Based British!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Based:</strong> Thank you Morgoth, thank you!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/07/02/millennium-woes-with-morgoth-on-brexit-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Millennium Woes with Morgoth on Brexit — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/12/30/millennial-woes-millenniyule-2017-no-66-morgoth-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Millennial Woes’ Millenniyule 2017 No. 66 – Morgoth — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/01/20/morgoths-review-youtube-hangout-01-skeptics-and-cucks-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Morgoth’s Review – YouTube Hangout 01 – Skeptics and Cucks — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/01/30/morgoths-review-youtube-hangout-02-merry-holocaustmas-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Morgoth’s Review – YouTube Hangout 02 – Merry Holocaustmas — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/08/06/morgoths-review-discussing-the-governments-anti-extremism-agency-prevent-with-based-british-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Morgoth’s Review — Discussing the Government’s Anti-Extremism Agency ”Prevent” With Based British — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2019/01/07/morgoths-review-hate-reading-the-guardian-hirsch-critical-theory-nihilism-jan-2019-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Morgoth’s Review — Hate-Reading The Guardian – Hirsch, Critical Theory &amp; Nihilism, Jan 2019 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2019/02/08/morgoths-review-the-psychotic-left-feb-2019-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Morgoth’s Review — The Psychotic Left, Feb 2019 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2019/02/16/morgoths-review-fishing-for-white-pills-feb-2019-transcript/">Morgoth’s Review – Fishing For White Pills, Feb 2019 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2019/02/25/morgoths-review-hope-not-hate-and-the-state-of-play-feb-2019-transcript/">Morgoth’s Review – Hope Not Hate and the State of Play, Feb 2019 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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