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Millennial Woes

 

A Gram of Woes No 45

 

 

Tue, Nov 7, 2023

 

[Woes does an interesting round up of current events and his take on things, especially Tommy Robinson and his plans for a counter protest against pro-Palestinian protesters in London on Sat, Nov 11.

It was also very good to see Woes get stuck into that stuck-up Douglas Murray and his usual self-righteous display of grovelling suck-up to zionist power, the very people causing the destruction of the West that he claims to bemoan!

– KATANA]

 

 

 

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2023, Week 45.

 

Hello, everyone, and welcome to A Gram of Woes, on regularly, Tuesday the 7th of November 2023.

 

So there’s a lot to talk about actually, I have a lot of things:

 

“Woes. With the news that pro-Palestine demonstrations are set to take place in London on Armistice Day and a Patriot counter-protest planned, how do you see the events playing out?”

 

“Most of us know it’s a trap, but it feels impossible sometimes to get through to the Patriot crowd, who care little for the realities of the situation and always reply with, ‘So we do nothing?’, when warned to stay away from London on Saturday. What adds more suspicion into the mix is that Tommy Robinson’s Twitter account has been reinstated at a terribly convenient time.”

 

Well, that gets us into a number of the things that I wanted to talk about.

 

So the Gaza thing continues. There are some awful pictures and footage that have come out recently. I try to avoid them, but it’s kind of difficult when you’re on social media. It continues, it gets worse. Tensions around the whole thing in terms of the conflict spreading, seem to have lessened somewhat since last week, I think because, well, I don’t know, I guess the time has sort of, sort of passed. There hadn’t been escalations, basically.

 

So Russia isn’t getting involved, China isn’t getting involved. Russia, I did see something that they were giving some sort of weaponry or defense system. I think it was a defense system to the Palestinians, but that’s all I’ve seen. And then Yemen did declare war, apparently declared war on Israel, but I’ve heard no more about that. So maybe that was fake?

 

So the point is that we don’t seem to be looking at World War Three, which is obviously a relief. But at the same time, that means more of this corrupt system will go on and on for the foreseeable future.

 

So that’s the general situation.

 

However, the split between Zionists and their supporters and their opponents has only deepened in the last week.

 

So you’ve got a real divide here! A huge divide now! Between what has been called the Left and the mainstream media and certainly the political establishment in every country. The mainstream media is actually being. I wouldn’t say fair, but it’s not being entirely pro-Zionist. Even the BBC is being fairly even handed.

 

So it’s an interesting thing where for the first time, you’ve got a sort of bifurcation in the mainstream for the first time in a long time. I mean, Covid, Ukraine, climate change, LGBT and the migrant crisis for the last ten years at least, the mainstream has very much been one unified entity. It’s kind of weird that it would take this issue to rupture that. Of course, they’ll still be united in all of those other issues, but this is different.

 

[04:023]

 

I also think that it has changed people’s view of Israel, and especially Zionism. I think that it suffered a huge amount of PR damage. And that is why it was interesting that several high profile Twitter accounts were reinstated over the last week because of the PR damage done to Israel and Zionism. It’s very interesting that Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins, and I think there was a third one, I’m forgetting now, got reinstated on Twitter. Which means unsuspended, got their accounts back with all their followers.

 

And I think that Tommy Robinson has about 300,000 followers, something like that. He’s big on there and he’s been on Telegram ever since, with, I think, 150,000 followers on there ever since. But upon being reinstated, he said:

 

“It’s nice to have a voice again.”

 

Which is interesting and rather depressing about how realistically Telegram fits into the ecosystem of social media. Because ultimately it is public, technically, but the general public aren’t there, whereas Twitter is much more open. I mean, you will see a tweet being shared and talked about in the media. You won’t see a Telegram post. They won’t be quoting a Telegram post in a Times article or something like that.

 

So anyway. And he was welcomed back. Tommy was welcomed back to Twitter by numerous people, including Sargon of Akad. There’s a screenshot doing the rounds of, you know, it just feels like we’re back in time! We’re so back in time, to coin a phrase. And it’s tedious and tiresome and fucking annoying! It could be 2015 again. And not in a good way, not in the optimism. Well, not 2015, 16, the optimism. No, this is 2015, 16, let’s moan about Muslims!

 

To get back to the whole thing, because there are numerous facets here.

 

So the tensions, the pro-Palestine demonstrations spreading all over the West, getting very large. And then it was announced that there would be a large, a really big one on Remembrance Day [Armistice Day] on the 11 November, which is obviously commemorating the war days, especially the two World wars, the Poppy and so on.

 

And it’s something that’s sort of intrinsic to British culture, certainly all of my lifetime, since the First World War, so over 100 years. It’s something that matters to us. It’s one of those traditions that binds us together, even those of us who certainly were not alive at that time or even the Second World War. This has been one of those staples of British culture which matters! Not that the remembrance itself about war obviously matters, but I think another way in which this matters is that it is a British tradition.

 

So it’s something for the British people especially, really only the indigenous British people. Because all the migrants, all the immigrants weren’t here. They were not here 100 years ago or even for the Second World War.

 

So this is not for them. It’s very much our heritage!

 

[08:01]

 

So when the pro-Palestine people say that they’re going to basically gate crash this, that’s not just uncouth, rude, it’s also perceived as anti-British. And there will be a contingent among them for whom it’s not anti-British like, they’re British Lefties who want to use Remembrance Sunday to bring awareness to their issue. But a great number of them, it will be anti-British because they won’t be British in any real sense.

 

And of course, this is a good example of how this whole issue is bringing to people’s minds the idea that these migrants are not really British, that they haven’t really integrated, that they don’t really care about the country or its culture or heritage. And so multiculturalism does not work! The real issue is that mass immigration does not work. But they’ll blame it on multiculturalism, which is the allowed euphemism here. They’ll say, well, if only they integrated, not multiculturalism:

 

“If they integrated into British culture, then everything would be okay. But in the meantime, we will be angry at them for not integrating.”

 

So this is the reaction that you’re now seeing from the other side. And cue Tommy. So he’s allowed back on Twitter! And apparently Elon Musk actually had a private meeting with Rishi Sunak just a few days before this happened.

 

So it’s going to kick off big time? Well, that’s what people are saying. That’s what the mainstream media are saying. They’re fears of a far-Right.

 

Of course, Tommy Robinson is called far-Right. So he’s associated with nationalism, with the dissident Right, the Alt-Right. Very annoying! Because the man is a dumpling. Worse than that, he’s not just thick. Well, he’s not just the class dunce. He’s the class clown as well.

 

In other words, he’s not just thick, he’s an attention seeker. He thrives on this. And he thrives on chaos and drama, which is why his crowd was always just absolutely rife with drama, like a soap opera. Because that’s the kind of person he is.

 

And he doesn’t really, I don’t think he really understands much, but he doesn’t need to. He does understand that some brown people aren’t like us. And that’s really it:

 

“Some brown people rape our daughters and sisters. Well, they should integrate. They should integrate more and then they wouldn’t rape our daughters and sisters!”

 

It’s fucking grug, grug stuff! And not even true! At least if it were accurate, you could say, well, it’s basic and stupid, but it’s true. It’s not true! And it is delusional about the reality of, well, different people’s identity, religion, race and so on.

 

The only way for them to really integrate is for us to be dissolved and them. So it’s a dreadful situation in which there is no other solution but for them to leave the country. That’s really the only solution here. Well, from my perspective. From their perspective, the solution is for me and all of us to dissolve into them.

 

[11:55]

 

But I don’t see that as a solution. I see that as a travesty!

 

So anyway, to get back to all this, I don’t think he understands much, but he does understand., … He is a natural leader, although he doesn’t have any strategy or brains or whatever, he does have charisma and he does love attention and he loves to be important. And people like him. For all his flaws, he is a likable character, on the surface. So he’s friendly, he’s outgoing, he’s loud, he likes a laugh, he’s a lad! So people warm to him.

 

So anyway, he is back on Twitter! And one of the first things he says is that literally, one of the first things he said, having got his Twitter back, was that he was going to “rally a nation” and specifically in the Remembrance Day event.

 

So it’s a counterprotest to the counterprotest, I’ll be specific. It’s like “patriotic” in inverted commas. Counterprotest to the pro-Palestine counterprotest to remembrance Sunday. So they’re saying that they’re going to protect our statues and all that.

 

Now, the word patriotic, we should be careful about this because in a low brow sense, these guys, these Tommy fans, are patriotic in the most basic sense. They do care about their country, their kin, their local town. They’re very sort of basic, simple people who don’t understand any of the abstractions that are going on! They just want the people they know to be safe. And increasingly the people they know will be multiracial and mixed race, but they just want them to be safe. And that’s really all the thinking that there is.

 

But that is a form of patriotism!

 

So when I say “patriotic” and inverted commas, it’s not exactly fair. They are actually enacting that instinct to protect homeland and kith and kin [one’s acquaintances and relatives]. That is the heart of patriotism. But unfortunately, the fact that it is grug and low brow matters, because it leaves them vulnerable to being manipulated and used like cannon fodder. And I think that’s what’s happening here.

 

Now, whether there will be violence at this. I mean, there will be some violence that’s just inevitable when you’ve got a bunch of drunk North FC types and a bunch of pro-Palestine [chuckling] Arabs facing off in central London. Yeah, there will be some violence for sure.

 

What I think is there might even be like a stabbing, something like that. But what I think is there won’t be major violence. I think this will turn out to be something where the mainstream media has got everyone worked up about it in expectation, and then actually it will pass largely without much bloodshed.

 

[15:27]

 

But the point is that the point will have been made, right? I don’t think they actually need much violence in order to make the point, which is:

 

“These brown people are bad because they don’t support the jews! They don’t support Zionism! I’ve got a jewish friend, he’s just like anyone else. He’s very upset about what these brown people are doing!”

 

Et cetera. That’s the point that will be made here. And that’s all that it’s supposed to make. That’s all that it’s supposed to do.

 

And that’s why Tommy Robinson has been reinstated on Twitter and why the mainstream media is crowing about this, about this whole thing, the counter-protest and the counter counter-protest.

 

I think it’s all orchestrated. And Morgoth put a good article out today when he talked about the Behavioural Insights Team, the Nudge Unit. And he made this very interesting observation that the Nudge Unit is used to pacify people. That’s basically what it’s done. The purposes to which it’s been put have all been to calm people down, get them to just do as they’re told, all that.

 

But what if it could also be used in the other direction to agitate people? And why wouldn’t it? You’re Garnering all this knowledge about what makes people tick and how to make people do what you want them to do. Well, you can put that to any use, can’t you?

 

And I agree with Morgoth and other people have made the same point over the last few days, that all of this is being orchestrated. The British state, not necessarily the British government as such. The politicians, I think they are largely dumplings. They don’t understand anything. But the British state is infested with civil servants and NGOs and so on, which are run by, I think, far smarter people and they know exactly what they’re doing here!

 

And basically it’s a fictitious patriotic drive where you get everyone worked up. And ultimately it’s about nothing! Because what if well, ultimately it leads to nothing. Because what would Tommy Robinson, his crowd, what kind of Britain do they want? They want the Britain of, well, 2010, 2015, [chuckling] I’m not sure. Maybe 2015, but without the Pakistani grooming gangs. So they just want everyone to integrate together. It’s the nihilism.

 

But that’s the best that this kind of patriotism could lead to, and it would be the dissolution of everything that we are culturally, genetically.

 

So that’s Tommy Robinson’s function, as well as just to distract people from real nationalism and real patriotism, like actual thinking patriotism, which is a huge part of it as well:

 

“This could be a golden opportunity to highlight the catastrophic failures of multiculturalism only for the football crowd to ruin everything and place all the focus on the emerging threat of the far-Right.”

 

Well, exactly!

 

So there are numerous things there. It will highlight the catastrophic failures of multiculturalism. Yes. But in a way that is useful to the establishment, because they can say:

 

“The test of multiculturalism is, do we all support Zionism or not?”

 

Which [chuckling] is fucking mental!

 

[19:17]

 

Anyway, the other aspect is that the football crowd, that’s Tommy Robinson’s crowd, will go in and be, … They will certainly be drunk. They will certainly, some of them be on drugs, and they are certainly looking for a fight! They are certainly looking for violence. So they’ll go in and cause mayhem!

 

And then the result is that the media, the government, the state, can then blame the far-Right and Tommy Robinson. But more importantly, the far-Right, for causing all this violence, which they have ginned up! Including by getting Tommy Robinson reinstated on Twitter.

 

I mean, I just don’t believe that that was spontaneous. I just simply don’t believe that he and Katie Hopkins, any more than I believe it was just a bizarre coincidence that Way of the World and I were banned from YouTube on the very same day! No! No, that doesn’t happen!

 

And similarly, Katie Hopkins and Tom Robinson being reinstated on Twitter on the same day, just a week before this all kicks off. No! It’s obviously orchestrated. They actually really should have staggered it. Like, have one of them reinstated one day and then another one, two weeks later or something, because that would have been more plausible.

 

The [chuckling] point is that they can do something like this right out in the open, obviously, and people won’t even notice! The grugs won’t even think it’s suspicious that Tommy and Katie were brought back onto Twitter on the same day. Won’t even fucking occur to them that that’s odd! Because they’re just thinking about the fight. They’re just thinking about:

 

“Eh, we’re going to stick it to those Arabs!”

 

Cukg.

 

And the thing is, they might. And then, as JR says, there will be a lot of violence then, and then a lot of grugs going to jail, but also the far-Right, that generally what is called the “far-Right”, I really reject that label. I don’t like it! I’m not comfortable with it.

 

But nonetheless, it is what we are called, and all of us will be demonised alongside that.

 

So then we are, I mean, they could even say it’s “terrorism”. The far-Right is the “terrorist threat”, because:

 

“Well, they stabbed some brown people on this protest!”

 

And I don’t even think it will be stabbing. It’ll be bottling, it’ll be fists, that kind of thing. Because Tommy’s crowd and the football crowd, they’re not a black street gang.

 

As far as I know, there hasn’t been anything like knives or guns or anything like that. I’m just trying to think what’s the worst that could possibly happen. It’s not going to be shootings, it would be stabbings. I think that’s as far as it could possibly go in terms of violence.

 

And I’m not saying that. I’m not trying to diminish that it’s obviously fucking awful! But I’m using that as the worst case scenario here, that there are stabbings at this.

 

It doesn’t really matter, though, because whatever happens, the media will use it, will create the impression that they desire about these events. As usual, they can work with almost anything.

 

[23:10]

 

“Also note that despite everything, there haven’t been any attacks that we might have expected as well. As do you mean terror attacks by Muslims serves to only further the idea that Tommy and co are just bullies.”

 

Yes, yes. Well, they can say that after the fact. They can say that:

 

“The Muslims, the pro-Palestine crowd, would disapprove of their point of view, but nonetheless, they were peaceful. But Tommy and his crowd went in there and beat them up, raised hell with these poor brown immigrants!”

 

And by the media, we mean the state, can manipulate and use this any way it likes in contradictory ways. They’ll gin up loathing for the Muslims, for being anti-semitic, anti-Zionist, but then gin up sympathy for the Muslims when they’re beaten up by the Tommy crowd. And they’ll gin up sympathy for the Tommy crowd for being patriotic, but then condemn them when there’s violence at this protest. Condemn them as animals! And even see Tommy going to prison again for what he organised:

 

“He organised violence that he meted out to those poor Muslims on Remembrance Sunday!”

 

And you can see the narratives, the storylines that they would construct for all of this.

 

Anyway, so let’s see. You could get lost in talking about all the different implications of this, the different facets of it. But I think I’ve covered the broad thing there.

 

So I’ll read this question again:

 

“With the news that pro-Palestine demonstrations are set to take place in London on Armistice Day, a patriotic counter-protest planned. How do you see the events playing out? Most of us know It’s a trap, but it feels impossible sometimes to get through to the patriot crowd who care little.”

 

Yes, it is impossible because they tend to be pretty thick! That’s just the fact of the matter:

 

“Who care little for the realities of the situation. And they always reply with, ‘So we do nothing?’, when warned to stay away from London.”

 

The truth is, we should do nothing, because we don’t have power. And so to do anything is to just lay yourself wide open to the predations of the powerful. That’s the truth! Yeah. We should do nothing. I don’t like it. I really don’t like it! I wish we could do something. I wish we could have our way. I wish we could get our ideas across in the public sphere and in the political sphere and transform Britain. I really do wish that!

 

But in this current situation, we have no power at all! And our enemies do have unlimited power!

 

[26:07]

 

So if you put yourself out there, you’re just a mix between puppet and cannon fodder. They will use you, however they like, to condemn all of your beliefs, to condemn your actions on the day, to condemn you as a person. They’ll dig up your past. They’ll paint you in whatever way they like and everything you believe in in whatever way they like! Because that’s what the powerful can do to the powerless, and we are basically the powerless. I’m sorry. It’s a depressing thing to say. But it’s true. And we have to face up to that because acting like we have power or we have the vicarious power of the state, like the state will back us up when we go and protest something, that’s unfortunately just bollocks!

 

The LGBT activist, he has the power of the state backing him up, so to speak, when he goes on a gay protest. [chuckling] But actual patriots and even fake patriots like Tommy don’t! Well, Tommy, this is weird. He does have the backing of the state, insofar as I’m certain they got his Twitter reinstated and I’m certain they are using him. I wouldn’t even be surprised if there is a spoken agreement between him and the state:

 

“Sometimes we’ll send you to prison. Don’t worry, it’ll be cushy, but otherwise we want you to cause trouble.”

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some sort of agreement between Tommy and the state.

 

But the point is, yeah, he is a fake patriot because of what his ideas lead to.

 

And ultimately, I don’t really, … I mean, I think he does care about Britain, but I think he cares more about having an argy-bargy:

 

“I’m getting lots of attention!”

 

Exactly!:

 

“It’s not going to change the demographics of London.”

 

Precisely.

 

Oh, Douglas Murray:

 

“Must admit, the Douglas Murray interview on Trigonometry got my blood pumping more than any intellectual discourse I’ve heard or have read in the last three years following Woes, AA and Morgoth, etc. Everyone on all sides is absolutely obsessed with the jews. Fuck off, man! And remember that to get a job done, you sometimes need to take all the allies you can get, get them all out.”

 

Well, look, if you’re talking about achieving mass deportation of Muslims, that would be terrific. Is that what this is going to lead to? But otherwise, these are not our allies. Douglas Murray is not our ally. Organised international jewry are not our allies.

 

And if you think they are, you’re a fucking fool! Just look at who started mass immigration! Look at who campaigned for Hate Speech laws relentlessly! Look who orchestrated the migrant crisis in 2015 onwards, and tell me that these are our fucking allies! Are you mad? I don’t know what you’re saying. I’m sorry if I’ve misunderstood something, but I just don’t understand.

 

 

Douglas Murray. His job is to prevent the general public from realizing what I’ve just said. And his appearance on Trigonometry, which I haven’t watched, … But those two as well. Trigonometry as well! Their job is to mislead people and prevent them from realizing the stuff I’ve just said.

 

Go and Google Andrew Joyce, Empire Windrush and you’ll find an essay on Occidental Observer that fucking lays it out for you! The stuff that Douglas Murray certainly wouldn’t want anyone to know! And really doesn’t want anyone to know!

 

 

He’s a piece of shit! The last few weeks it’s been disgusting! And his self righteousness, his dramatic way of speaking, his solemnness! This is all faux. It’s all fake! It’s all put on! It’s disgusting! It makes me sick, really!

 

 

[30:47]

 

For 15 years or more he has been a paid traitor to his people, riling them up about the Muslims pointlessly. Maybe there is a point to it. Maybe the British state realises that mass immigration has been a disaster:

 

“The Muslims aren’t integrating. So what we’ve got to do is gradually gin up loathing for them among the indigenous Brits and then that will justify us sending them all back!”

 

Do we believe that?

 

And then that’s the purpose of Douglas Murray and so on and Tommy Robinson, that the British state secretly wants to deport all these Muslims and reverse multiculturalism! Absolute bollocks! Because they continue bringing them in year after year, thousands upon thousands! Hundreds of thousands probably every year. So they would have stopped that years and years ago if they had any intention of mass deportation now. Or is it that the Muslims’reaction to the Gaza conflict has made them suddenly see:

 

“Oh, these Muslims aren’t integrating. We’ll have to deport them all! Quick, release, Tommy!”

 

Bollocks! Something is going on here that they’re not going to implement mass deportations, I don’t think. I mean, how can it just have occurred to them now that they’re not integrating?

 

So, no, I think there would be some token deportations. Red meat for the Tommytards and the Conservatards. But that’s it. The grander narrative here will be that the far-Right is evil. The far-Right is violent and stupid and low brow and so forth. But also that the Palestinians are awful for, … Well, that the Muslims are awful for being anti-semitic.

 

But they’ll also say that the far-Right, that Tommy crowd, is also anti-semitic. While he diligently rejects any form of awareness of the jewish question [JQ] and vehemently discourages it among his supporters, the state and the media will nonetheless call him an anti-semite, even though he’s funded by jews, in league with God knows how many jewish organisations, has jewish colleagues. Nonetheless, the likes of Hope not Hate will call him anti-semitic, and the BBC and so on.

 

Or they’ll say that his politics, his ideas, leads to anti-semitism. So he’ll be condemned for that. All the while the problems continue.

 

And that’s really what’s going on here. I think it’s just a containment mechanism. It’s just a red meat for the various concerned parties. But it won’t actually lead to any big social change, any policy change. Oh, yeah. So he wanted to fight for Israel. Yeah, there’s all that. There’s all that as well.

 

[34:12]

 

I mean, you could go into it. But I’m trying to keep it general! [chuckling] So that I don’t lose the thread. And he made the Shalom film, all that.

 

He actually has the same attitude as the British state, that multiculturalism is fine, it’s wonderful, until jews are harmed by it, then it’s terrible!

 

So we don’t really exist! And I bet you if you said to Tommy Robinson:

 

“What about the British people?”

 

He would probably say:

 

“Well, who do you mean? We don’t really exist. We’re all from Africa!”

 

Because he’ll have heard those slogans. I don’t think he’ll really understand anything. Maybe I’m underestimating the guy, but he just seems to get habitually used by Ezra Levant, jewish organisations, the mainstream media, the British state, especially the British state. Used and abused by them:

 

“Don’t know the details of what Tommy is trying to organise, but anyone who still thinks after Charlottesville on January 6, that IRL [In Real Life] protests are a smart idea is probably not going to make it.”

 

Yes, I agree. That’s exactly the point. These things are orchestrated beforehand, during, and especially afterwards! After the fact.

 

So, yeah, I guess that’s the takeaway. The summary is people should not go to this protest on Armistice Day, Remembrance Day, because it’s a trap. I think they want some amount of violence. As I say, I don’t think it’s going to be a bloodbath, but there will be fisticuffs, that kind of thing.

 

And I think they want it. They want to get a few photographs of some slob or hooligan punching a harmless brown guy. That would be ideal. That would be what they’d love to have at the end of this. But maybe also violence from the brown guys towards the hooligans.

 

And, of course, in the eyes of the middle class, this just looks like a fucking nightmare! It will look:

 

“Okay, so this is what patriotism is. Oh, dear! It’s having a tracksuit on and drinking a bottle of Newcastle Brown ale in public, and then getting into fisticuffs with a Muslim chap!”

 

And [chuckling] that’s not going to be attractive to the middle class! Which, of course, is exactly what they’ve always wanted to make nationalism, patriotism, repugnant to the middle class, to the educated. And Tommy has diligently served them well in that regard. Over and over again!

 

But then so have other elements of actual nationalism. To be fair, they’ve made it very easy for the state and the media to demonise this kind of stuff. But point is that as long as the middle class are on board with generally some diversity, multiculturalism, then nothing’s going to change. What Tommy and his grugs do is. Well, yeah, I’m just saying he is a leader, but he’s a leader of morons! And he’s certainly not going to change the culture or have any idea.

 

In fact, his only ideas for improving the culture and improving Britain would be, as I said earlier, that we all race mix. The guy’s in dumpling! I’m sorry, but he just does not seem to be very bright. He has that sociopathy that I think is very typical of political leaders and yeah, a cynical grifter. Yeah, I agree. Oh, yes:

 

“The brown men like Rishi Sunak will emerge as the voice of reason. Let’s not forget that Tommy’s cash till will be ringing louder than ever!”

 

Yeah, right.

 

[39:02]

 

So, yeah, what Tommy said on Twitter was:

 

“Saturday, eleven, eleven, eleven, London. Your country needs you!”

 

Echoing the famous poster with Lord Kitchener.

 

So that’s four days from now. So we’ll see what happened.

 

Unity News, they’re saying anyone who has still a functioning brain and cares about this country should stay well away from this obvious Fed op. Yes, I agree.

 

Nick Clews says:

 

“I don’t think it will be anything.”

 

Well, maybe nothing will come. Maybe it will just be a big sort of tension raising exercise in the media and then not much will actually happen.

 

But the point will have been established, nonetheless. Even though nothing happened. The point, it will have been inserted into people’s minds that the far-Right is a threat, which is really the goal with all of this, is to insert into the public’s mind certain ideas.

 

Oh, no, I didn’t see this interview with Hitchens and Alex O’Connor. Is that the one where he walked out of it after and he, … It took 17 minutes to, … Hold on a minute. Yes. Yes, I did! Yes, I did see this! I watched the whole thing. It’s a 17 minutes “walkout”, where he takes that long arguing with the guy. He’s standing up, he’s putting on his bicycling outfits and all that, and he’s still arguing with him for 17 minutes! And honestly, I’ve had three relatives who had dementia, and it manifests early on in different ways in each person. It’s different.

 

But one of the ways is a sort of frustration that they’re not keeping up with things, early on, in the progress of the disease. They realise that they’re not quite on the ball and they feel that other people are tricking them, moving too far ahead, confusing them.

 

And honestly, I’m a bit concerned. I am because for all his flaws, I like Peter Hitchens. And that was a strange thing, that 17 minutes walk out. I mean, it’s funny to watch. But during it I did start to think, was he just in a bad mood on this particular day? Or is there something more going on here?

 

Anyway, oh, I should have, … Right, okay, so Halloween happened and I was meant to do a stream with Lichtmesz with Martin Lichtmesz, about ghosts for Halloween, but unfortunately that didn’t happen. There was a technical screw up at his end that meant that we couldn’t do it.

 

And he also had to miss the Decameron the next day as well, which was very unfortunate. So we’ll see about rescheduling. It’s a shame. I really was looking forward to it, but unfortunately that couldn’t happen.

[42:35]

 

Also, Guy Fawkes Night happened. And on both of these occasions I scheduled loads of pictures throughout each of the Halloween and Guy Fawkes Day. Because I like both festivals, if you can call them a festival. I’m not sure what the word would be. But especially Guy Fawkes Night. I prefer that to Halloween just because it’s more dark and serious and rooted in British history. And I’ve got fond memories of the sights and sounds and smells of bonfire night. So it’s closer to me. And I was kind of disappointed that we couldn’t. Didn’t do a stream about it to commemorate it. But I thought:

 

“Well, there’s not actually that much to be said about. You’d say the same thing every year!”

 

Yeah, [chuckling] but it’s just a shame. It’d be nice to commemorate it in some way, to take part in it in some way.

 

And so my way was to post photos, mostly from yester, well, all from yesteryear, Guy Fawkes Night being celebrated by people, especially kids, throughout the decades. That was lovely. I liked that. So I hope people enjoyed those photos.

 

Halloween, I probably enjoyed it more when I was a child. I do like Halloween, … And this is the biggest cliche. So I’m sorry to say it, I don’t like how commercial it’s become. I don’t like that it all feels fake and plasticky. I think it should be local. I think you should keep it local. I think that things should be made by your mum or your friend’s mum, and by the wee shop, they should sell things. But I don’t like that. It feels very shallow.

 

And I can see Bonfire Night going the same way. Eventually the kids won’t make a Guy. I don’t even know if they still do that nowadays?

 

But I can imagine Amazon selling a Guy that you can burn. So that you don’t need to make your own, because it’s inconvenient! [chuckling] And I really hope that doesn’t happen.

 

But anyway, yeah, I liked Halloween as a child. Small, but as you get older, for the reasons I’ve just given, it starts to seem a bit shallow and American, sort of meaningless, which I don’t like saying because it does have roots. All Hallows Eve. It does have roots in European culture, but it’s all a bit shallow nowadays.

 

And I think that it’s salvageable, though. I mean, it’s perfectly salvageable. It just, you know, we should not. Well, we should have a better culture than we do, basically. Yeah. I mean, kids will always love Halloween, of course. Yeah. Probably the most internationally recognised day. It really is world-wide. And, yes, it’s very shallow. Yeah. It just feels like, as I say, plasticky. Silly.

 

I made the point last year about turnips, that it used to be turnips that we used in Britain, whereas it’s become pumpkins. And that’s just one sort of manifestation of this, where everything becomes Americanised over time. I don’t like it. Don’t like it at all!

 

[46:18]

 

And the Guardian and the BBC, there’s an article in MSN.com called “How the Guardian and BBC got swept up in a wave of anti-semitism”. And, I mean, this is amazing! So no matter how this is, you know, just to be fair and even handed about the conflict is in certain eyes to be “anti-semitic”.

 

And of course, to be anti-Zionist is to be anti-semitic in certain eyes. And no matter how craven your support for jews and the jewish people is, if you don’t support them carpet bombing Gaza and killing huge numbers of small children, then you’re an anti-semite! This is insane!

 

And that’s the thing. Look how craven, how absolutely committed to diversity and multiculturalism the Guardian and the BBC are! But if they say something critical of Israel’s conduct in this conflict, then they’re anti-semitic. So fucking tiresome! Oh, yes. So and this is an example of them ginning this up for Tommy and his crowd:

 

“Home Secretary Suella Braverman, who is not White and is married to a jew. Suella Braverman refers to the anti-war, pro-peace., …”

 

So this is the Palestine side:

 

“Refers to the anti-war, pro-peace protests as hate marches!”

 

Anti-war, pro-peace equals hate marches because it’s anti-semitic! So, in an article in Jewish Chronicle [chuckling] from March this year, long before this conflict started, Braverman wrote:

 

“My husband is a proud Zionist. We have close family members who serve in the IDF.”

 

[chuckling] There we go! She’s not compromised at all!

 

Oh, this is the thing I was trying to remember earlier. This is a letter from the Ministry of Foreign affairs in Saudi Arabia:

 

“The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia condemns, in the strongest terms possible, the extremist remarks by an Israeli occupation government minister regarding dropping a nuclear bomb on the besieged Gaza Strip, which show the pervasiveness of extremism and brutality among members of the Israeli government. Moreover, not dismissing the minister from the government immediately and only freezing his membership constitutes the utmost disregard for all human and religious moral values and legal norms by the Israeli government.”

 

There we go. That was another minor event that happened this week.

 

Oh, okay. One thing was Audrey Hale, the transsexual gunman who opened fire in a Christian school in Nashville last year. The manifesto has been leaked. And one page in the manifesto says:

 

“Kill those kids, those crackers! Going to private fancy schools with those fancy khakis and sports backpacks with their daddy’s Mustangs and convertibles. Fuck you little shits! I wish to shoot your weak arse dicks with your mop yellow hair! Want to kill all you little crackers. Bunch of little faggots with your White privileges. Fuck you, faggots!”

 

It’s interesting to hear a transgender using the word “faggots” I guess that’s like black people using a certain word [nigger]. They’re allowed to do it.

 

[50:35]

 

So this is the manifesto that the FBI would not release last year, when the shooting happened, they kept it under wraps. And you can see why. It was anti-White. It was expressly anti-White, the killing. Let me see this. Audrey Hale. And it’s weird, because as far as I can see, that is a White person, a White boy. I can’t even tell whether it was, … The jawline looks male, but it looks like, … No, I think it was originally a girl. And, yeah, that does look like her.

 

Anyway, the point is, Audrey Hale was White herself, but she seems to have been, well, pumped full of not only hormones, but also anti-White sentiment, anti-White beliefs. And that has formed part of her killing crusade. If what I’m saying is accurate, then that means that this is what they say about nationalism, that it leads to killing. To moan about Muslims or multiculturalism leads to murder!

 

Well, then this seems to be that exact thing, where you’re going on and on about how awful White people are, and then that leads to them being killed. Especially by black people, but even by this transgender. [chuckling] it’s all quite weird!

 

So, yeah, you can see why they wouldn’t release this manifesto at the time.

 

Whereas if it’s a racist White guy and he’s got a manifesto, they always release that it’s just so fucking annoying!

 

And a poppy seller in Edinburgh, Waverly station train station. He’s 78 years old and he was punched by pro-Palestine protesters, apparently. That was one thing that happened here. There are tensions, there are real tensions.

 

And I think on all sides, the tensions are being stoked by the mainstream media, by the British state, deliberately, knowingly. Because whatever the fallout is, they can control it. Or so they think.

 

Anyway, let’s, because I’ll get on to that later.

 

Another thing that happened was the AfD has been declared an extremist, Right-wing extremist organisation by the Federal Office for the Protection of the German Constitution. I’m guessing that’s the equivalent of our Home Office. But it’s the Saxony Anhalt office. It’s one division, as far as I know, not the general country. And in Saxony Anhalt, the AfD scored higher than the Christian Democrat Party, the CDU, for the first time, and that was just a few days ago.

 

And then this guy declares them Right-wing extremist organisation. This is how they do it. They are clearly very worried about the AfD. And you can moan about the AfD, a bunch of cucks or whatever, but it’s based enough for the establishment to be clearly very concerned about. Unless that too is a fiction that they’re manufacturing. But I just don’t get the feeling that is the case there in Germany.

 

Okay. Ross asks a question:

 

“In order to survive in a world of superpowers, do you think Europe might have to unite into a European superstate? It seems to me that nationalism in the traditional sense is dead and Imperium Europa is the way forward.”

 

[54:41]

 

Well, I’m with Mosley on this matter. He also believes in a European federation, but he clearly was devoted to Britain. I mean, you can do both. It’s not a contradiction. I mean, you could say it’s serving two masters, but not really, because Britain is part of Europe, so it makes sense. I mean, I don’t think that we should be opposed to France and Germany and Belgium and Sweden. I think that they are our allies, they’re our colleagues, our brothers. So we should put our interests first, but we should also put their interests second, and we should collaborate with them and help each other out.

 

I mean, there will always be brotherly sibling rivalry, but that’s just something for adults to deal with which they should fucking well be able to. It certainly doesn’t mean that we should be sabotaging each other or going to war with each other. And especially because we now know the full scope of the human species and just how different most of them are from us Europeans.

 

Regardless of the minor differences between us, the contrast between us and outside of Europe is much starker than any contrast within Europe. And that should be very clear to everyone at this point. If you can’t see the point of European identity and the salience of it at this point, then you’re just a retard!

 

So I do think that European identity clearly matters. There is such a thing as being European. There absolutely is! It’s part of being a civilisation. But that does not contradict love for one’s country, one’s own homeland, any more than love for one’s town precludes love for one’s country. Of course it doesn’t. My town is my favourite place and so on.

 

But that doesn’t mean, therefore I’m opposed to the rest of the country. Fucking, that’s ridiculous! No one would ever say that. I don’t think anyone has ever said that! [chuckling]

 

And yet we have this idea that to be pro-Britain is necessarily to be anti-Europe or opposed to other European countries. I just don’t see it. I don’t see it. I understand the logic of the thinking, but I just don’t think it’s actually true in the real world unless we make it true! Unless we decide to behave in that way. So we’ll moan about the French and the Germans and all this, like certain civic nationalists do, or the Spitfire Bulldog nationalists who are just a bunch of morons.

 

And as I say, historically, the time for that kind of small minded, petty nationalism is just absolutely over! It was over in 1945. It was over in 1918. We just should not be behaving like that towards each other or talking of each other like that.

 

[57:57]

 

I mean, I’ll make jokes about the French now and then, but it is a joke in the end. I absolutely want the best for the French. I don’t want the French to be Muslimified or blackified. Absolutely not!

 

People use the term “petty nationalism” in different ways. The way that I’m using it. What I mean by it here is that small minded nationalism, where you got this idea that you only care about your own country and are suspicious of other European countries. I think that’s silly!

 

The other way in which people use the term petty nationalism is, well, to simply care about your country. There are people who think that we should all be sort of cosmopolitan to some degree. And I disagree with that. I think it’s very natural and healthy to have attachment to your homeland, to what you have known, to the culture and people and history of your nation. I think that’s absolutely right! So to call that petty, I think, is ridiculous!

 

So anyway, that’s what I think about that.

 

And as for federation, yes, there should be some sort of federation, but it should be run by people. Well, it should be run by good people and formulated by good people, not managerialist husks, and certainly not nutters, [chuckling] technocrats and so on.

 

First and foremost there should be a love of, well, what we are. And if that were the guiding principle, if that were the heart of everything, then the EU would actually be a good thing. It would be a force for good.

 

So I don’t think that the EU entirely negates or discredits the idea of European Federation. I think it’s European Federation done in the worst possible way and with a retarded mentality. But that doesn’t mean that European Federation is always foolhardy by definition. I just don’t think that’s true at all. And I agree with what you’re saying in a world of superpowers, and that is the reality. Geopolitics is you can’t just put your head in the sand and just ignore what’s going on in the rest of the world. If you do that, the rest of the world will just rape you. That’s what the powerful do to the weak, unfortunately, in politics.

 

So, yeah, superpowers matter. Power matters. Geopolitics matters. And nationalism has to take place within that arena. You have to acknowledge the realities around it.

 

I mean, how else are you going to protect your country if you don’t acknowledge the realities of the power structures that you’re operating within?

 

So there we go.

 

And then Black Pigeon Pilled asked the question:

 

“Have we reached peak jewish power?”

 

Which is a very interesting matter.

 

And this is what I was saying, what I alluded to earlier, that the establishment think they can control the story after the fact, because they’ve got that power. Because historically, for a long time they’ve had that power, and now they’ve got the Nudge Unit to do it in a more slick know, inculcate ideas into the public and so on.

 

[1:01:47]

 

But there is a sense, and Counter-Currents did a podcast a few days ago with Morgoth and Pox Populi and Endeavour, which was a very interesting debate, and I shared it on Telegram, about this matter. Has jewish power peaked now?

 

I remember Richard Spencer once saying about 2018, sometime like that. He said that jewish power actually peaked in the mid 90s. Clinton, that sort of era. And the Iraq war and Afghanistan war actually helped to reduce it. And it’s been reducing ever since. It’s been diminishing ever since. Which would make sense because demographically it’s actually not looking good for the Ashkenazi in America. Their kids keep marrying out and not having enough children of their own. And in the establishment, especially the universities, there’s a lot of brown people now who don’t want to promote or enrol jews! [chuckling] Because they are anti-semitic, I mean, they actually are consciously anti-semitic.

 

So of course, those brown people have been aided in arriving in America, in the West by jewish organisations much of the time.

 

But nonetheless, once here in the West, they’re quite anti-jew. They’re quite anti-semitic because they don’t know who brought them here, who paved the way for them. So it doesn’t matter.

 

So the point is, to some extent, jews in America are being devoured by the things that they have helped create. And actually, well, I wrote a summary of this for someone else, but I don’t think I need to, … Things like Critical Theory and White Privilege because they get rolled into that, they get associated with being White by brown people at least.

 

And then imperialism, supremacy, all this kind of stuff, historical structures of systemic violence and oppression, all of that. They’ve been inculcating that in the curriculum all over the West. And now Israel is invading Gaza. And mean, it seems almost like a genocide. And certainly there are jews speaking genocidally about the Palestinians. So that looks a lot like supremacy and imperialism and racism and the powerful abusing the weak.

 

And there’s really not much that you can say in response to that except:

 

“Well, it’s the jews! So they’re an exception! So they can get away with doing stuff like this. It’s fine for them to do this!”

 

But that’s a ridiculous thing to say. Even with the Holocaust as a justifier!

 

“Well, yes, it might be supremacy and it might be racism and it might be mass murder and it might be an invasion, but it’s okay for the jews to do this because of the Holocaust, 80 years ago!”

 

That doesn’t really, I don’t think that convinces many people because they just think:

 

“Well, yeah, but two wrongs don’t make a right.”

 

[1:05:21]

 

I mean, just because you’ve been abused doesn’t mean that you should abuse other people. So even for people who fully believe the Holocaust narrative, it still doesn’t serve as sufficient justification for Israel to do what it’s doing. [chuckling] So there’s that.

 

And then generally about jewish influence, there is also that the mainstream media is falling apart slowly, and it’s happening much more slowly than we initially thought it would. But it is happening!

 

And the question is whether it can successfully transition to online., … I don’t know. But just now, the situation just now, it looks like once the Boomers die out, television is gone. The old media, I think it’s surviving because of the boomers still, because they’ve always got TV on in their living room all the fucking time! And it’s blaring the BBC or whatever. Once they’re gone, there won’t be a TV on in living rooms up and down the country, blaring the BBC. That will no longer be the case.

 

So that means that the mainstream media, as a persuasive propaganda tool, is losing it’s purchase on the population. And so if you’re using that tool to condition the population and enact your power, well, then you’re losing power! Because the tool just isn’t working anymore! [chuckling]

 

And I think that’s going to be ever more the case. As I say, unless they can successfully transition to online stuff. But I don’t know if they can! I don’t know. Maybe they can. Maybe for normies, the BBC YouTube channel will be what they look at on YouTube and they won’t go to any other website, perhaps.

 

So, yeah, the answer to the question, I think it is, and I think that jewish power is declining. And we talk about “jewish power”, that in itself is an anti-semitic concept. I believe it’s regarded as “anti-semitic”, which is kind of ridiculous because every group has power. So of course the jews are going to have power. There is going to be a thing called jewish power, just like there is a thing, British power and US power, and so forth.

 

But nonetheless, the very concept that jews collectively would have power and the desire to use it is often regarded as an anti-semitic trope. [chuckling] It’s just absurd! And why would any group not want to have power and to use it, and to have uses to put it to? Of course it will!

 

But, yeah, I think that it is declining.

 

And then another part of it is just the Holocaust, as I said last week, I think the Holocaust is just, I mean, there was already jewish power in America and Britain long before the Holocaust. But the Holocaust was something that really inaugurated and justified it. And the Holocaust is now a long time ago, and it just doesn’t mean to younger generations what it meant to the boomers and the silent generation.

 

[1:08:53]

 

So that’s that. And I don’t think there’s anything you can do to combat that you can have endless Holocaust stuff in the media and in education, but it still seems like something that happened a long time ago. And within a context that we can’t even recognise now, the context of national pride. To your average teenager today, it’s unrelatable! It’s unrelatable for the millennials in their thirties and forties. It’s just that we’ve never lived in a context where our countries were oriented towards our people.

 

So it’s a very difficult thing to get worked up about the possibility of something like the Third Reich happening, or something like the Holocaust happening in Britain today. No one thinks that! No one thinks it’s not going to be that.

 

If you’re going to put people in concentration camps, [chuckling] ironically, it’s going to be World Health Organisation bollocks! It’s going to be the UN, it’s going to be the World Economic Forum decreeing that this must be done for the good of the public. It’s not going to be the national government saying:

 

“We don’t like this minority, so we’re going to put them in camps!”

 

That is just completely unrelatable. I think.

 

So, yeah the Holocaust has lost it’s purchase, and that will only continue, especially as Western populations become more diverse, which really, these jewish NGOs are killing the goose that lays the golden egg there. But that seems to be something that they do.

 

And what we care about is what we care about what’s good for us. And that’s not the Holocaust, and it’s not the mass immigration either. It’s us! It’s our countries. The fact that our governments aren’t oriented towards our people, that is the problem!

 

In short, I think that the answer to the question is, yes.

 

But in the meantime, for now, jewish power very much remains a very real thing. And there will also be other reasons as well, within the jewish people that they’ll start believing their own propaganda. Their ethnocentrism, which is very strong, will nonetheless be negated by their beliefs. If they really do believe that race is a little rubbish and it’s just an illusion, and that we should be open minded and that we should learn from other types of people, then there’s no point getting into that marriage that your parents are trying to push you into with that rich but dull banker from the Rubenstein family. You’re interested in that exotic student you’ve met on your business studies degree at whatever university you’re at. So this, I think, is the situation for many young jewish people today.

 

And so again, the ethnocentrism that they’ve had in the past, I think, is being corroded by their own stated beliefs that they state for the Gentiles, but nonetheless, it weaken their own standing. It does weaken their own identity, which in turn weakens their political power as a group.

 

Now, as I say, it’s a slow process, and I’m not going to say it’s going to necessarily nullify jewish power throughout the West.

 

[1:12:55]

 

But I do think you’re not looking at the situation of 1995 anymore. I tend to agree with Richard Spencer on this. I think that it probably peaked in the mid nineties. And ever since then it has remained a thing. And even today, even now, it’s still very powerful! I think that they told Rishi Sunak:

 

“Get Tommy Robinson back on Twitter.”

 

He had a meeting with Musk and it happened. That’s what I basically think happened here.

 

So I don’t mean to say it’s over, that jewish power is just not a thing. It will always be a thing. As long as they exist. Of course they will have some amount of powers by definition. And I think they will remain an especially powerful group, probably forever or foreseeable future.

 

But I don’t think they’re going to have, I mean, well, to put it a different way, jewish power is not going to be the monolithic thing that it was in the past and without that transformation, et cetera, et cetera. [paraphrasing Babara Lerner Spectre]

 

Yeah, China replaces them. That’s the whole other thing. Yeah, China! It’s a whole other aspect of this. And Russia is a different thing as well. It’s obviously different from the West, but it’s also got these weird tendencies that you wouldn’t expect.

 

The point is that Russia is its own thing and it’s quite bizarre and in some ways it is beholden to some of the same ridiculous ideas that have done such damage in the West.

 

But yeah, China is clearly a rising power. And that also is going to weaken jewish influence in the world.

 

Oh, the Holocaust memorial in Victoria Tower Gardens. Yeah, that’s a whole thing. As I say, I do believe that their power is waning.

 

So actually, I think that’s probably why they kvetch so much to have these memorials, to try to bolster their declining power. And that’s regardless of what happens with Gaza, just now with this conflict, I think this is still the case.

 

As I said before, I think this is the last time that they could do something like this. But the long term consequences are still bad for the Israelis either way. Maybe they should move to somewhere else in the world. I don’t know. I’m not saying that is true. I’m just saying maybe something for them to look into. Because clearly it’s an endlessly precarious, nasty, situation in Israel for everyone. But that’s their problem. And it shouldn’t be ours, and it shouldn’t have anything to do with us. We shouldn’t need to know about it.

 

And part of the perversity of the age we live in is that it is our problem! And that we are talking about it! And that we are spending an hour and a half talking about the various ramifications of this march. What’s it got to do with any of our culture, any of our heritage or history?

 

You’ve got a bunch of brown people, the pro-Palestine crowd, and then you’ve got a bunch of faux patriots, largely organised by jews on the other side, fighting it out so as to be condemned by a media that is certainly compromised in multiple directions, and a British state that is completely corrupt.

 

So it’s a very shitty situation!

 

[1:16:46]

 

And I’m not going to black pill people. I’m just outlining the variety and degree of bullshit that’s going on here, and just how disconnected and it is from us and our interests.

 

So I would say, just to emphasise, in case anyone hasn’t gleaned this already, I expressly discourage anyone from attending this counter-protest with Tommy Robinson in London on Remembrance Day. I think it’s just an absolute trap! 100%! And nothing good can come of it.

 

All right, well, I guess that’s everything. I should have taken time to organise the notes better beforehand. That is a lesson. This has been an unnecessarily arduous talk because I didn’t organise the notes beforehand. For anyone doing similar things learn from my mistake. [chuckling] One with Thumbs. That’s a good one!

 

At this point, yes, I think the Western civilisation is a chimera. This is a system of systems, but it’s not a spiritual conquest. It’s become a bureaucratic fucking nightmare! Did I finish my fight with Sargon? The Sargon thing? [chuckling] challenged him to., … Oh, this is the whole thing with Gad Saad. Sargon I can’t see his Twitter, right? Because I’m blocked.

 

So I’m not really aware of what he’s., … Yeah, so Gad Saad has been kvetching on Twitter for the last few weeks, and Sargon seems to have decided that Gad Saad is an ally, a friend of the West, against Muslims against Islam. And yes, sure, he’s not as bad as some of them, of course he isn’t.

 

But the message is still the same. He’s not pro-White Identity or heritage or whatever what I would call Western civilisation. He’s a consumer looking for a safe place to consume, like many (((wanderers))) and many non-Whites. And what he wants is the West to be fit for that purpose. So he’s not an ally in any real sense.

 

And for Sargon to think that he is, I’m sorry, it’s typical of Sargon. I mean, he’s, sorry, he’s not the sharpest tool in the box! And he doesn’t have much excuse at this point. He has many people that he could be learning from. If he can’t fucking work it out himself, which he clearly can, he has many people he could be just [chuckling] asking:

 

“Can you just explain this to me or just tell me what is the situation here?”

 

But he never does.

 

He arduously argues against you for years, and then eventually quietly realises that you were right all along. And he adopts your talking points, but acts as if he came up with them himself. And you are still an idiot! That’s what he does. Because he doesn’t have much, well, any integrity. I’m sorry, but that’s basically the situation. He’s a man without much intelligence and without much integrity.

 

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And I’m sorry to say that because it sounds bitchy, and it is bitchy. But it’s the truth and it’s relevant. I wouldn’t say it just for the sake of it. I’m saying it because it’s relevant. And it matters, too, because he’s holding people back with this nonsense! And it’s what he’s always been doing. I mean, right back to 2015 when he said that:

 

“The alt-Right, the SJWs, Right-wing SJWs!”

 

Just a moron. It’s a fucking stupid thing to say!

 

And this is what he specialises in, these thought terminating cliches, these stupid gotchas! Horseshoe theory and so on, that prevent thought. [chuckling] That’s what he does.

 

So, no, he certainly won’t be on Millenniyule 23. I actually don’t think I would have him on Millenniyule. I would do a stream with him, but I wouldn’t want it to be part of Millenniyule, because it just feels like that would be sullying Millenniyule at this point. And I know that sounds like sour grapes and I’m lying, but honestly, I wouldn’t want to have them on Millenniyule! Because I want Millenniyule to be not combative. I want it to be good spirited and so on.

 

And with Sargon, I would want to be combative. So the Millenniyule wouldn’t be the venue for that.

 

Yeah, exactly! It should be cozy. And I also, frankly, more egotistically, I think that he would need to earn the right to appear on Millenniyule because he’s snubbed me for years now.

 

So, no, I’m not just going to take him back like that! No, he’d have to do some work.

 

Yes, he has been combative on Millenniyule. If you watch the 2017 one, for example, or the 2016 one, and definitely the 2015 one, when he appeared on it uninvited – but nobody was invited as such. It was an open hangout so anyone could join. And he joined. And he was certainly just, … He spent four or 5 hours misunderstanding and pretending to misunderstand, which is a combination. He does both of those.

 

On the one hand, he’s not bright enough to understand what you’re saying, but he is bright enough to pretend to misunderstand those bits that he does understand. [chuckling] Fucking hell!

 

So, yeah, just not the best.

 

I mean, the only reason we have to talk about this guy at all is that he is big, he’s powerful, he’s influential, and that’s an aspect of the perversity of the age we live in. A guy like him should not have influence. He should not be prominent. Unfortunately, because of the abundance of midwits in the world, there are many, many people who will follow a guy like him. There we are.

 

“I like the gay little thing about us adopting SJW language.”

 

I mean, what the fuck? He’s obviously trying to get us to look like morons. Oh, yes, that was some weird thing.

 

And that was another one where it took ages to explain the idea, as if he was talking to a fucking five year old. So you’d have to go very slowly so that I’ll understand. But all it actually had the opposite effect where I was thinking:

 

“Sargon, will you get the fucking point? What the fuck are you trying to say here? Taking ages!”

 

And eventually he did lay it out very simply, and I thought:

 

“Okay, well, that’s just a stupid idea!”

 

Once you can see it clearly, it’s just fucking stupid!

 

So, yeah, I agree.

 

Anyway:

 

“Is Woes really discussing Sargon?”

 

I’m afraid so. And you’re right, I shouldn’t be:

 

“You should have really bludgeoned him for that one!”

 

[chuckling] Well, I’ll be honest, if he did agree to our stream now, I would bludgeon him!

 

And I think he knows that. I think he knows that I wouldn’t be treating him with kid gloves now. So he’s not going to do it. But he wouldn’t do it anyway because he doesn’t want to be shown up. And he also doesn’t want to be associated with me, or any of us.

 

So, yeah, the days of him doing impromptu debates and discussions that is long over, he’s not going to do that. He’s playing it very safe. And I understand that for no one wants to lose their income and whatever. But then fucking check out of the discourse. Don’t keep polluting it with your low brow, low-T nonsense, obviously. But he does, and it’s exasperating!:

 

“I should gate crash an online event of his.”

 

Well, [chuckling] I’m pretty sure his mods would have me banned in short order, but I don’t think he even does events that you can gate crash, does he? I’m not sure. All right. Okay. That’s all.

 

I’m not going to go on about that guy anymore. It is bad when I’m talking about him. Because I know he won’t be talking about me, so I shouldn’t be talking about him:

 

“He was a valuable gateway.”

 

Yes, he was, for sure.

 

I mean, I certainly got lots of new followers from that four hour debate that I did with them for years afterward, so it was certainly good for me. Far better than it was for him. [chuckling] But he’s not going to make that mistake again.

 

“Neil deGrasse Tyson loses his mind.”

 

Oh, God. [chuckling] I mean, he is thick as fuck! He’s just a dumpling. And it’s embarrassing! It’s embarrassing because he’s like the Thomas Sowell of science. People think of him as very., … Oh, and Thomas Sowell! I saw a clip of him. Oh, fuck! Someone asked him:

 

“Where does anti-semitism come from?”

 

And he came out with the old canard that:

 

“It’s about jealousy of jewish success, because it’s always easier to hate someone else than to hate yourself for underachieving!”

 

Well, thanks for that, Thomas! I don’t rate Thomas well, I’m sorry.

 

I mean, yeah, he comes out with some good middle of the road observations that have been said by other people already, but in and of himself, no. If that’s the best that they can do, and let’s face it, it is the best they can do! Then I’m not impressed.

 

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As for Neil deGrasse Tyson, he’s the definition of a diversity hire. He’s only got his career at all because he is black. But he’s certainly not bright. Holy shit! And that clip of him talking about the vaccine, I mean, that really should condemn him forever. Dreadful!

 

Holy shit!

 

“King Charles has confirmed that Rishi Sunak will introduce a permanent smoking ban in Britain for everyone born in 2009 or after.”

 

So nobody born after January 2009 will ever legally be able to buy cigarettes. Holy fuck! So anyone under 14 now, or 14 or under. Will never be able to buy cigarettes. That’s something else. Yeah. I’m against this. I don’t approve of this.

 

I mean, I don’t approve of smoking, really. I know it’s bad for you and it be discouraged, but I don’t agree with banning it. And I still enjoy being in the presence of people smoking, even though I’ve not., … A cigarette has not touched my lips for three and a half years! And I’ve never been close to doing it, to smoking. You just make a decision and that’s it. You’re no longer a smoker, so why would you smoke? It’s easy!

 

But then I did have a sort of maybe divine intervention there to help me with it.

 

But anyway, if I can do it, anyone else could do it!

 

But then again, what about the other things that I’m addicted to, like Coca Cola? Whole other issue.

 

So the point is, I don’t agree with banning it, but at the same time, I’m not surprised that they’re doing this because it has been going this way for a long time in this direction.

 

So there we go.

 

And yes, PGM says:

 

“Meanwhile, we have weed at the liquor store.”

 

Well, that’s in Canada. Yeah. I do suspect that cannabis is just going to be decriminalised everywhere in time because ultimately it serves their ends, it serves their purposes. People are just stoned and listless, which they already largely are.

 

All right, I think that’s it.

 

All right, well, this has been a good one, I think. A bit disjointed, but nonetheless, I think it went fairly well. Yeah So thank you. Thank you for the comments. Thank you for the Superchats. I will see you again next week, hopefully on the correct night of the week.

 

And in the meantime, bye bye for now.

 

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Peak Aussieman
2 days ago
Don’t get swept up in the Counter-Jihad Movement. no good will come of it. It’s all a giant honey pot.

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@Aeneid88
2 days ago
100% its been done before, a lot of people have seen it first hand and won’t fall for it again but the younger guys or the newly red pilled probably will.

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@Goodkunt
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Useful idiots on both sides are only useful to the Jew.

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Hjorth
2 days ago
Sargon will cower. He has his safe space in The Lotus Eaters.

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@MoneyChangersOut
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Sargoy of Akukked

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@OscarMeyer
1 day ago
Sargoy of Mossad

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Darby
2 days ago
Sargon vs Woes? Tommy vs the muslims? wake up bro 2016 is back lol

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@M3t4phYzX
2 days ago
I wish..

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@boc_choy
2 days ago
Woes, they mentioned you on Lotus Eaters the other day. It wasn’t anything about you – rather they were showing a video of a street scene and I think Callum comment that someone in the video looked like you and asked ‘is that Woes?’ They all commented and laughed good heartedly except Sargon who said nothing.

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Millennial Woes
2 days ago
LOL

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@filled_soda
2 days ago
I am now convinced that Sargon’s ego is of truly biblical proportions.

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@Chabbor
2 days ago
No doubt he’d smugly chuckle at this.

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@Justsomeguy115
2 days ago
MUST CONSUUUME… ERRR INDIVIDUALISM

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purebloodheretic
2 days ago
Sargon has been a smug eurocunt since way back

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Just a guy trying to honor my ancestors, and understand the world.
2 days ago(edited)
I don’t believe that. I genuinely don’t think Sargon is smug. I think he’s nihilistic, calculated and comfortable. In the end, I don’t believe Carl is particularly political. He’s a guy who has carved out a very easy, comfortable life by convincing retards that he’s taking risks, is brave, etc. and he doesn’t have to work a real job or worry about money like most of us do. Being a fake-edgy centrist is a path to an easy life if you can string a few sentences together slightly better than most.

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2 days ago
Sargon’s praised & promoted every single controlled opposition figure going, & carries on doing so to this day, years after everyone else has spotted what was going on.
I’m talking about the likes of Farage, Tommy Robinson, Douglas Murray, Jordan Peterson etc..
He honestly hasn’t got 2 brain cells to rub together.

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@OscarMeyer
1 day ago
Old Dick Spencer had this clown, Sargoy, figured out years ago.

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BobMatthews
2 days ago
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if it’s not the bbc then its fox news in America for so many White boomer parents that are “conservative”. And yes they will mindlessly have tv blaring away in their dens puking out nonsense or watching something like gold rush which is likely alltogether a fake show that is obviously making more money from boomer viewership than any gold they are mining if they are even mining it at all…

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@Goodkunt
2 days ago
You just summed up dinner at my Parents house. Boomers are a lost cause.

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BobMatthews
1 day ago
it’s got to number in 5-8 hours per day that they watch crap like oak island (arguably one of the most vacant, nonsensical pieces of crap I have ever seen). And fox news has constant commercials of nothing but non-Whites in them and $upport jews, israel, and anti-semitism is on the rise types. You try to show boomers alternative sources of media and news and explain to them how all these guys speaking facts and showing evidence of black violence and jewish influence around 2019 whom were censored and cancelled which is vindication if any as to the degree of truth they speak, you explain these things to boomers and literally it’s more productive talking to a vrick wall.

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Oswald Jr.
2 days ago
Woes, did you see the Edinburgh Evening New report on the riot in Niddrie on Bonfire Night? They used an image from a riot in Kiev back in 2014 for the front page story. 😆

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Runt’s Meadow
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The 11th November is not ‘remembrance day’, it is Armistice Day, and specifically commemorates the end of fighting on the western front in WW1, which was seen in Britain as the effective end of the war. This year, Remembrance Sunday will be the next day.

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ChuckGerety
13 hours ago
I say we step aside and let leftist steer the ship. Watch them crash and burn. We will see how well it works out for them in 15-20 years but our hands will be clean. We will then begin to rebuild in a healthier society afterwards.

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@Goodkunt
2 days ago
“Oh ToMmY tOmMy ToMmY….”

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Loup-Garou
2 days ago
Whites are the easiest group to scapegoat so if the system feels it will have a problem with Muslims they’ll just insert a “bigger white problem.”

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@long_walk
1 day ago
Sargon (future conservative leader) is levelling up in Warhammer before he take you on.

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@MoneyChangersOut
1 day ago
I wonder if Tommy Bell end Robinson will get Israeli citizenship for all his lackeying for the Jews.

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@Aeneid88
1 day ago
When it comes to PJW and Sargon both they are very sus, their funding was always opaque. Sargon also is self claimed black ancestry and married a woman who already had a kid so you know, his quality and character are not aligned with us. His beliefs are not aligned, his world view is liberal left (again self admitted). He tells you all the time who he is.

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Just a guy trying to honor my ancestors, and understand the world.
2 days ago(edited)
The Israel versus Palestine issue in the DR has been very interesting to me. It’s probably the first meaningful issue where I have felt genuine alienation from many/most dissident right British brothers/cousins. The street violence that white Britain’s have suffered at the hands of perhaps the most low IQ gene pool of Muslims in existence has largely perverted the collective British ability to be politically coherent on the issue. It’s an understandable flaw.
The fact is, The only reason that Islam was ever conceivable as something that could exist in Western Civilization is because of Jewish influence. Many otherwise intelligent dissident Britain’s seems to lose sight of this, or otherwise convince themselves that Anglo cucks are the reason for it all. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of how power exchanged hands in the 20th century (again, a misunderstanding seemingly born out of personal annoyance with your local Muslim populations).
When you divorce yourself from these feelings and childish rhetoric (ie, “I don’t like either side!” OK, but that’s not how grown-ups interact with geopolitics) the ugly truth is that we, white gentiles, are not going to stand up to Jews. We just aren’t. I’m not dispensing black pills, I’m being a non-retard. The evidence for this is very clear. As such, siding firmly and publicly alongside the Palestinians is not an act of falling for noble savage myths. It is simply a cold, sober acceptance of our choices for the future- A) If Israel wins this conflict on all fronts (hearts, minds, etc) it will be a thousand years of Zionism. The memory of your- our- extinct people will be that of vile, usurious, hateful, imperialistic cowards. Or option B- we cheer on what is ultimately an irrelevant tribe of “others” with whom we share a mutual enemy.
this is to say nothing of the Counter Currents takes, which is just theorycell silliness born out of homosexual fear of Muslims. It’s not worth addressing.
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@Justsomeguy115
2 days ago
Double whammy!

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@Chabbor
2 days ago
I’d rather have Jews in my country than Muslims. Sure Jews sometimes facilitate Muslims coming in (F Visigoths) but they’re not the metastatic cancer that Muslims are, they’re more of a brain tumour that may stop being benign at any point.

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@Justsomeguy115
2 days ago
Thats like blaming the lungs for getting cancer when youve been smoking for 50 years. It doesnt make any logical sense.

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@Chabbor
2 days ago
Both are cancer but one is metastatic as in it spreads over the whole body and the other is a at times benign singular tumour that could go cancerous at any point.
It makes perfect sense when you think about population sizes.

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purebloodheretic
2 days ago
You can’t see the metastasized cancer the Jews produce already??

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@Chabbor
2 days ago
I’m talking in the abstract, not the current day situation.

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purebloodheretic
2 days ago
I don’t think you can really separate the abrahamic religions, it’s one psyop orchestrated by the Jews at the top and the Christian side being their mindless soldiers and the Muslims serving as shock troops for ZOG, all of whom constantly fight each other for their endless wars, it’s all cancerous that will metastasize no matter what.

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@Goodkunt
2 days ago
Muslims are only in your country because Jews put them there.

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@Chabbor
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Not true though is it? They couldn’t do anything without help.

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@Goodkunt
2 days ago
I remember being as naïve as you. However, you are here watching Woes so you’re on the right track. You will eventually figure it out for yourself.

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@Chabbor
2 days ago
I’m not remotely naive I just have a comprehensive understanding of history rather than just looking for the evil Jew behind everything like a schizo.

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@Goodkunt
2 days ago
I’m not looking for the evil Jew, it is just a fact that almost all evil globalists are Jews.

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@Chabbor
2 days ago
Even if that was a fact it would have nothing to do with Jews in the abstract, that would just be the current situation.
You can seperate ideologies from the current situation they find themselves by looking at world history.

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@Goodkunt
2 days ago
Sure.

@long_walk
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I don’t see it as J vs M. They’re both unwelcome

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Woes, I think you just gotta give Sargon the Expat treatment the next time he shows up.

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Book Review

 

The Culture of Critique

 

Mon, Nov 28, 2022

 

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1 – PA’s 21st Book Review – The Culture of Critique!

2 – Introducing Dr Kevin MacDonald, and How He Came to Write the Book

3 – First Wrote: People That Shall Dwell Alone – Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy

4 – Accumulated a Massive Amount of Material on Jews

5 – Jews Recruiting Non-Jews in Order to Be Viable, Yet Remain in Charge

6 – Jewish Movements Being Subversive, for Example Undermining the Family

7 – The Frankfurt School to Counter Whites Ethnocentrism

8 – A Healthy White Family was Seen as Bad

9 – The Rise of Jewish Media Elite in America in the 1960s

10 – The Huge Jewish Role in Making Pornography Legal

11 – New York Intellectuals, Very Jewish, Shunning Non-Jews

12 – Revising CoC on the Role of Jews on the Left, the Soviet Union, Immigration

13 – Jewish Activism to Change the Laws on Immigration to Let Anyone In

14 – The Removal of All National Origin Quotas by Jews in 1965

15 – Jews Fund All These NGOs Dedicated to Immigration

16 – The Book Answers the Question as to Why Jews Are Pushing Immigration

17 – What Else Influenced You to Write the Book?

18 – Came to the Conclusion That These People Are Not on Our Side

19 – Ken Burns Blaming America for the Holocaust

20 – A Lot of Anti-Jewish Sentiment in America as Jews Were Seen as Radicals

21 – 1924 Immigration Law and the “Holocaust”

22 – Jewish Alliances with Other Racial Groups Against Whites

23 – Anti-Semitism Among Blacks and Other Non-Whites

24 – Sam Bankman Fried — A Jewish Fraudster

25 – Are We Seeing a Sea Change in Regard to How Jews Operate?

26 – MacDonald Has High Hopes for Twitter with Elon Musk

27 – ADL and Twitter, Tesla

28 – The Vampire Myth and Jews

29 – Jews as Parasite and Predators

30 – Jewish Ethics in Regard to Non-Jews

31 – Tikkun Olam “You Help the World” Deception

32 – The (((Sam Bankman Fried))) Crypto Fraud

33 – Why Can’t Jews Live in Harmony with Others?

34 – Jews Want Total Authoritarian Control of Society, a Digital Gulag

35 – Superchats – MacDonald’s Relationship with David Sloan Wilson?

36 – Superchats – Could Other Ethnic Groups Oust Jews in Certain Parts of America?

37 – Super Achieving Asians

38 – Constant Non-Whites in Ads and Movies

39 – Jewish Strategy Backfiring?

40 – A Jewish Police State Like the Early Soviet Union

41 – Superchats – Can the Decline of the West Be Reversed?

42 – Superchats – Jewish IQ

43 – Superchats – Jews and Nobel Prizes

44 – Closing Thoughts on Culture of Critique

 

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Mark Collett: Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Patriotic Alternative Book Club. Yes, it is that time of the month. It is book review time. And boy, what a book we have for you tonight.

 

Now, this is the last book review of the year. And I thought, what a way to round out a fantastic year, but with possibly the best, arguably the best book written on jewish power. This book, you all know it. We’re doing The Culture of Critique. Everyone knows it, everyone loves it. But this is actually the 21st episode of Book Club. I can’t believe we’ve been going that long reviewing books.

And the fact we haven’t reviewed this book yet is a bit of a shame, really, isn’t it? Because I think this is one that everyone’s going to want to hear the review of, and luckily, tonight we’ve got two hours. We’ve got an hour of discussing the book, an hour of question answers if people want to Superchat. And we are lucky enough to have Kevin MacDonald with us tonight. And we’ll be introducing him shortly.

 

Now, first I’m going to say we are live in all the usual places. We’re live on Odysee, we’re live on DLive, and we’re live on Radio Albion. If you can, please share the stream, that would be really, really appreciated. If you’re one of our Odysee viewers, that is our preferred platform. If you can give us a like on the platform, that really helps us. The more likes we get, the more people get exposed to these streams.

 

And I think this is a really important stream to be shown to normal people or people getting involved in nationalism. Because this book, as I said, is one of those foundational books for anyone in our cause.

 

And also, if you want to contribute to the stream, you can do so through Entropy. The Entropy link will be placed in the chat throughout the night. Or if you wish, you can just hit that support button on Odysee. Now, any Superchats will be read out live on the show in the second hour. Any questions to Dr. Kevin MacDonald will be put straight to him. And you can have your say on this book or ask any questions that you wish to ask.

 

2 – Introducing Dr Kevin MacDonald, and How He Came to Write the Book

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Now, we’re going to get into it, and I think there’s no better place to start than with Dr. Kevin MacDonald himself. Now, Dr. Kevin MacDonald’s is an incredible man. I’m privileged enough to have met him in person. He’s a fantastic speaker. He’s a really nice guy. His writings are absolutely superb! And this book, to say it’s world famous, is kind of downplaying it. This book is the quintessential book on this topic.

 

So I’m going to start by introducing Kevin.

 

How are you doing tonight, Kevin? And can you please tell us how you came about writing this book?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah, I’m doing great.

 

By the way, you’re a great speaker. I did hear you talk a couple of times.

 

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Anyway, I’m an evolutionary psychologist type guy, and I was interested in-groups as a phenomenon, which was very unusual at the time. This was in the late eighties, and at that time everything was about the individual. You shouldn’t talk about groups. Groups are just concatenations of individuals and they don’t have any special importance or anything!

 

And so there was really no research like that. But I already read the book in 1988 and had a chapter on ancient Spartans where you’re a very cohesive group of the ancient Greeks and they were incredible military power at the time. Probably saved the West from the Persians, at one point. And I decided that really this is something I should pursue.

 

And so I thought, what group should I write about? What group is better documented than jews? If you go to the jewish section of the library, it’s just like vast!

 

3 – First Wrote: People That Shall Dwell Alone – Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy

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And so I got into it and I wrote a book called People that Shall Dwell Alone – Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, saying that they were strategizing elements of Judaism clearly spelled out in the Old Testament.

 

For example, the jews are supposed to say, apart from other peoples, that they are not supposed to intermarry with them, and they should really treat them really as enemies and something to be afraid of, but also to try to conquer really like many other groups. Only of course with jews it wasn’t a military conquering, it was a matter of other types of conquering.

 

Anyway, so I talk about resource competition, I talk about how jewish societies operated over historical times and so on.

 

But I accumulated a lot of other material on anti-semitism. So I wrote a book on anti-semitism, the history of it, going over the centuries of it, and basically arguing that anti-semitism was rational, that it was a rational response to things that were happening in the society.

 

And I actually submitted that manuscript in 1994, but they took a very long time to review it because I had one chapter in there about the 20th century, which eventually became Culture of Critique. And they were heming and hawing about publishing it. And I was getting all these really bad reviews, but they were like crazy reviews by fanatic jews who just hated it! And didn’t really have any substantial points, and so they kept it going. And then finally I got a good review and they published it.

 

4 – Accumulated a Massive Amount of Material on Jews

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But by then I already had massive amount of material. It would have been a book of over a thousand pages. So we split it into two books, and that became Cultural of Critique. And the Culture of Critique is essentially about what’s happened in the 20th century. I don’t really deal with prior that, but I talk about jewish intellectual and political movements. I talk about jews in the Left, for example, because over the whole 20th century jews have been the backbone of the Left and they still are in terms of funding and everything else. Not in terms of numbers, necessarily, but in terms of funding and propaganda and having high positions in the media, in the academic world, and that sort of thing. But especially funding.

 

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And talk about Boazian anthropology from Franz Boaz. The idea of the races don’t really exist. They’re not important, and that all humans and all cultures are basically equal. And that any human all have equal abilities to start with. There are no genetic differences in, say, intelligence or something like that.

 

So I talk about that. I talk about psychoanalysis as a jewish movement. At the beginning of psychoanalysis it was all jews. I mean, it was incredibly jewish!

 

5 – Jews Recruiting Non-Jews in Order to Be Viable, Yet Remain in Charge

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And then they started admitting non-jews, but they were all kind of window dressing. [chuckling] And you see the same thing in these Leftist movements that jews dominated. Jews dominated these movements, but oftentimes they wanted to appeal to non-jews, obviously.

 

And so they would recruit non-jews. Any minority group like jews, where they’re like 2% or 1% of the population, they have to recruit non-jews in order to be viable. They can’t just be entirely jewish.

 

And so you see reaching out to try to get non-jews to join and that was a phenomenon on the Left throughout the 20th century. It still is in a lot of ways. But also psychoanalysis, where you had they brought in non-jews.

 

But again, they weren’t in charge, really. And it remained a jewish movement. And really status within the movement was determined by how closely connected you were to Sigmund Freud.

 

And so it really wasn’t a science. They had no experiments, they had no data. It was just all really subversion of the West in terms of sexual behaviour, marriage, and so on.

 

6 – Jewish Movements Being Subversive, for Example Undermining the Family

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So it was a very subversive movement in the end. It really undermined the family. And in turn, you have now, ever since the rise, really, of jewish power around 1960, where jews really rose to power, you have the decline of the family. You have increases in divorce, increases in birth, out of wedlock. You have all this dysfunction.

 

And so that’s really the end product of all the sexual revolution. But it didn’t affect jews as much because jews have a higher IQ. They tend to be middle class and above. And these influences have really hit the sort of lower social classes much worse.

 

And that’s why it really destroyed the black family completely, much more than the White family.

 

So you have like 70, 80% of births out of wedlock in the black community. And that was not the case in 1960. It was always higher than the White rate. But it just went way up after 1960 when you had the sort of liberal Left domination and welfare and everything.

 

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7 – The Frankfurt School to Counter Whites Ethnocentrism

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So the fifth chapter is on the Frankfurt School, which started out as a bunch of Marxists and hardcore doctrinaire Marxists. They started out in Germany in the 1920s and they had their Institute. It was funded by a wealthy jewish millionaire. All the principal people were jews. Especially Eric Horkheimer, Theodore Adorno. The psychoanalyst Adler was a big part of it. And later on, people like Marcuse.

 

And again, they started out as standard Orthodox Marxists.

 

But what they really noticed was that in Germany you had the working class, which was supposed to be Marxist and advocate for this radical socialist revolution.

 

Instead, they ended up going for the National Socialists and Hitler. And that was like, shocking to them. And they had to sort of revise their theory. And what they came up with was really the problem was White ethnocentrism. And that’s where you really get the push now.

 

I think in a way, the Frankfurt School is the most important to be well, that in Boas, and this war against race and genetics is very important still. But the Frankfurt School developed this ideology that Whites ethnocentrism, that any sense of White cohesiveness is bad. And that, again, very strongly identified as jews. And they saw this really as something that would end anti-semitism. And they targeted the family as psychoanalysis had.

 

And in fact, quite a lot of their work actually rely on psychoanalysis. Because psychoanalysis, you can bend psychoanalysis to anything you want! Because it’s completely divorced from any actual data.

 

8 – A Healthy White Family was Seen as Bad

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And so the Frankfurt School is able to use psychological concepts of repression. So they would look at a healthy White family and say:

 

“Well, these people are ethnocentric, you know, that they are instilling traditional family values and patriotism and hard work and upward mobility in their children. And that’s completely pathological!”

 

And so that kind of family was seen as bad.

 

Whereas families that were these sort of what they called “non-Authoritarian families” were families that were, … Actually what I showed in that chapter is that these families are very dysfunctional, that the children hated their parents. And that was something that was seen as good from the Frankfurt School. They loved it back when they could see non-jewish, these White families going against their parents, being rebels against their parents.

 

So your parents that are sort of traditional, they’re religious, they’re patriotic and all that. The Frankfurt School is basically saying there’s something very wrong with these people, that they are messed up. And what we need is to get away from this traditional child rearing where you have parents who are instilling patriotism and religion and discipline in their children and that sort of thing. So that was extremely subversive!

 

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9 – The Rise of Jewish Media Elite in America in the 1960s

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And again, the big thing was the White ethnocentrism and that was very influential. There was another movement that Andrew Joyce wrote about that I wasn’t even aware, but they were also very connected to the Frankfurt School. And their whole point, their whole focus was to get influence in the media.

 

And so after World War II, you saw the rise of this jewish media elite in America.

 

Anyway, all the major broadcasting networks ABC, NBC and CBS were all owned by jews.

 

And so these people started out in academia and they gradually spread out. They infiltrated other things like the broadcasting system. They would be hired bycs there was a guy named Samuel Flower and he was very central to this. And that was a very important movement because they were propagandists. This is where you really saw a lot of Leftist, anti-White kind of shows on television. And especially that took off after 1960 when all the curbs on jews that had happened earlier were disappearing. Prior to that, jews dominated Hollywood. They owned all the studios and everything. But there were controls on what the studios put out.

 

There were these Legion of Decency and the various rating organisations that would rate these Hollywood movies and actually prevent them from having anything anti-family, anti-Christian, in them. But after 1960 that disappeared with a general rise of this new jewish elite in America.

 

And so you start to see a lot of films like that and then television shows. And so television and movies became much more propaganda against Whites, against the family really, sexual mores.

 

10 – The Huge Jewish Role in Making Pornography Legal

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There’s another big shift which happens really throughout the Western world. And again huge jewish role in making pornography legal, making homosexuality, gay marriage, all those things that have happened in recent decades can be traced to that.

 

I don’t cover that particular issue.

 

But we’ve had some stuff on Occidental Observer. And I’m actually putting together the winter issue of Occidental Quarterly where we talk about, … Where Jason Cannon, Australian writer, talks about the rise of pornography in Australia and also in the United States, especially with the book Portnoy’s Complaint. Which was by Philip Roth. Very jewish book, but extremely obscene. He prides himself, he talks about why he enjoys having sex with these “shiksas”, these non-jewish girls. And he says:

 

“Mainly I’m screwing their backgrounds. I’m having sex with their backgrounds and degrading their backgrounds!”

 

As this WASPy White, Anglo Saxon Protestant group that they detest, and want to dominate.

 

And so that became a huge issue not only in this country, in America, but also in Australia and elsewhere because it was just so over the top obscene.

 

So those are the trends that have happened.

 

11 – New York Intellectuals, Very Jewish, Shunning Non-Jews

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In chapter six I talk about the New York intellectuals. New York again, very jewish. All the major players were jews. Again there were some sort of non-jews that were brought in. Like White McDonald’s was one of them. Well known sort of Leftist writer, not jewish. But he was part of this jewish coterie.

 

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I mean, one of the lines in that chapter is when these guys would go to parties, they would socialise with each other and they would exclude everybody else. And that was true of all these movements, that they would exclude people, they would just boycott them shun them! Prevent them from having any influence. That was true in psychoanalysis and true with Boas and his movement. It’s true of certainly true the Frankfurt School, but also these intellectuals in New York were famous for that. But they also gradually became conservative.

 

As I said, the jews have dominated the Left.

 

But this was at the time, in the early 1950s, when jews started to lose power in the Soviet Union.

 

And so there started to be reports that jews were being pushed out of their very prominent positions in Soviet society. And the non-jewish Russians were taking much more power. And so by the 1960s, this became a big cause among jews generally.

 

And so these people became the progenitors of Neo-conservatism, where they championed jewish causes, particularly Israel. And at the same time, they’re more conservative because, for example, they’ve always wanted a strong military, because they see a strong military is in jewish interest because you can help Israel. And especially after the Soviet Union, America became essentially a sort of world hegemon where they had all the power. And that’s still sort of the case. I think that’s what’s being fought out in Ukraine right now. Is the United States going to stay the sole superpower of the world, or are there going to be a sort of multipolar world with China and Russia having a say? That’s sort of what the book is about.

 

And since then, the first paperback edition of the book came out, I think, in 2002. The first book, the original book came out in 1998. Prager published it in 1998. But they sort of disowned it because there was a lot of controversy. But they sold me the paperback, rights. So I bought that, and I wrote a preface to that, a long preface. And I did emphasise much more of the role of jews in the media, in Hollywood. I talk about the culture of the Holocaust. I don’t say whether the Holocaust happened or not. All I’m talking about is the influence of the Holocaust, on American culture and the culture of the West. And I talked about the jewish role in communism based on some more recent things that had happened between 1998 and, 20002. And I’ve expanded on that.

 

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12 – Revising CoC on the Role of Jews on the Left, the Soviet Union, Immigration

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Actually, I’m revising Culture of Critique now to add to it a bunch of new data on the role of jews in the Left, the role of jews in the Soviet Union, the role of jews in immigration.

 

I forgot to talk about chapter seven in Culture of Critique, which in some ways is the most important chapter because that’s the chapter on jewish activism on immigration. Jews from the beginning, from early in the 20th century, were championing the immigration of all groups. Not just jews, but anybody in the world should be able to come to America. But especially at that time, it was important for jews because jews they wanted to leave Europe, especially Eastern Europe, because economic conditions were not good in Eastern Europe.

 

Jews were hated in Eastern Europe. There was the restrictions on jews in Eastern Europe because jews had come to dominate a lot of the economies there.

 

And so the jews had it sort of bad there and they wanted to get out. Well, what better place to go to America? Also the UK and elsewhere in Western Europe. But I write mainly about the United States. I also have a little section on the UK which has been expanded on other things that have been written in our Occidental Observer, by Andrew Joyce and other people.

 

13 – Jewish Activism to Change the Laws on Immigration to Let Anyone In

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But in that chapter I talk about the long history of jewish activism in this regard. And in 1924 the United States enacted a law that restricted immigration to people really who it was biased towards people from northwestern Europe because they argued that’s where the country was founded, that’s where most of the people could trace their ancestry.

 

And so what they wanted to do was make a bias towards northwestern Europe. And they argued in terms of ethnic fairness. That the quotas should be based on the percentage of people in the country as of 1890. That was fair to all ethnic groups.

 

Of course jews didn’t like that, so they just fought mightily against it! But they lost that fight. In 1924 that law was enacted. Calvin Coolidge signed it. It was a huge majority in both houses of Congress. So it became law. But jews continued their activism.

 

14 – The Removal of All National Origin Quotas by Jews in 1965

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I have sections on what was going on between 1924 and the end of World War II, and then after that, between then and 65. Because in 1965 that law was finally overturned, and they got rid of all those national origin quotas and made it so that anybody could come in from anywhere in the world. And they claimed that it would not change the ethnic balance of the country. And that was the mantra that the advocates for this law were saying:

 

“It won’t change the ethnic balance.”

 

But it wouldn’t have changed the ethnic balance because the numbers at first were very low.

 

But what they did after that then was gradually increase the numbers.

 

And now America is admitting about a million immigrants per year legally, and since Biden got in, about two or three million illegal immigrants, legally. So we are imitated with immigrants!

 

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And of course, if you look at the children in America the majority are non-White. So it’s simply false that the ethnic balance wouldn’t change as a result of this law, because it did. And they knew that! Because I’ve seen writings from jews prior to 65 saying exactly that, that the ethnic balance of America is not something that they approve of they do not want the ethnic balance that was created by the 1924 immigration law and they eventually succeeded in that.

 

15 – Jews Fund All These NGOs Dedicated to Immigration

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And so jewish organisations are still big advocates of immigration. They fund all these non-governmental organisations [NGOs] dedicated to immigration. I’m assuming like George Soros now is funding an awful lot of pro-immigration things. And there are a lot of other jewish foundations now because jews are very wealthy, they’ve established all these foundations. And so they donate money to these Left-wing causes of various kinds, including immigration.

 

So that pretty much summarizes the book, I would say. Again, I’m revising it now to include some other things.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much for that comprehensive introduction.

 

Now, I think this book is really important, and I’ll tell you why. I met a woman a good few years ago, probably half a decade or more ago. And she was very, very interested in nationalist ideas. And we went through nationalism bit by bit. And eventually you get to the jewish question.

 

And I think this book is the perfect answer to why. Because a lot of people get to the jewish question and they say:

 

“Yes, I can see the facts as to these people are doing this, but why do they do this?”

 

16 – The Book Answers the Question as to Why Jews Are Pushing Immigration

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And I think that’s why this book is so important and the way you put the evolutionary biology of jews as a group and what caused them to have their in-group preference, but what also caused them to then try to break everyone else’s down, that answers the question in such a wonderful way.

 

But we’ve got two other reviewers here with us tonight, so let’s ask them their opinions on the books and they can then ask you questions.

 

We’ll start with you, Natty. How are you doing? I hope you’ve had a good weekend, my friend.

 

Obviously, we missed last month’s Book Review because of bits and pieces to do with the conference. But we are back. We are back this month. How are you doing, my friend? And what did you think of the book?

 

Natty: Hi, everyone. Hi, Mark. I’m very good, thank you. It’s a real pleasure to be here with Dr. Kevin MacDonald. I think it’s fair to say this is probably one of the most influential books the last, 20 years on the dissident Right on intellectual counter-semitism, you might call it, and the ideas that now percolate and are becoming more widespread. The book itself, just to have it in your collection, probably goes some way to explain where your political views might stand.

 

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And I think you may be doing a disservice to some of the other books we’ve read, Mark. That along with this book and the information you can gather from this book, we’ve reviewed a couple of other books that build up this very, very cohesive, very rational and very intellectual picture of the type of thing that Western civilisation is currently up against. You laid out a very cohesive structure of the book there, Kevin. Can I call you Kevin? Is that okay? Or do you prefer another name?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Certainly. I had my microphone off. Sorry.

 

Natty: So I don’t know. One of the last things you spoke about was the impact that the collectivised jewish society has had on the American immigration system. It’s kind of less big deal, I guess, for those of us in the UK. Obviously we’re coming at this from a United Kingdom perspective.

 

However, as I read it, it’s clear that so many of the outcomes and so many of the things we see today that happening and the results of mass immigration and all the rest of it just are perfectly mirrored by the American system. And in some ways we have it worse and in some ways we have it better.

 

17 – What Else Influenced You to Write the Book?

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But there’s a quote. Before I get to the quote, this book is incredibly well sourced and well indexed. The bibliography is absolutely huge! You’ve obviously put a lot of work into this. Can I just ask, you said your initial kind of push to start looking into this subject was this idea of group selection and the creation of the Spartan warriors. Were you aware of any writings before this? For instance, Ford’s [Henry Ford] books or Solzhenitsyn or anything like that? Did that come across your desk?

 

Kevin MacDonald: I’d heard of Solzhenitsyn, I’m sure. I hadn’t read him or anything. I’ve since become more familiar. Have read quite a bit of his book, Two Hundred Years Together. Solzhenitsyn is an important person to get into if you want to understand the Soviet Union. And he doesn’t have a theory, as it were, but he certainly talks about, … I think he bends over backwards not to be seen as too intensely anti-jewish or something. But I think that’s the message that one would get. But there are other writings.

 

18 – Came to the Conclusion That These People Are Not on Our Side

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When I started out this whole project, I really didn’t know much about jews! And I was having to read an awful lot. So I spent a lot of time in the library and reading and gradually came to the conclusion that these people are not on our side, that they really don’t like us! And they fear us on the one hand.

 

But if you just focus on fear, what they do is to try to subvert, or dominate, or whatever you want to say, that culture to protect themselves.

 

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In my chapter on immigration, I talk a lot about that, that after World War II, they were obsessed with fear of an anti-Jewish movement as happened in Germany in the 1930s. And they wanted to prevent that they didn’t just see it as Germans, they saw it as White people! And this has to be squashed! And they have to prevent it. They use their position in media and in the academic world because jews became very influential in the academic world, not just with Boas and anthropology, but throughout the whole social sciences and humanities. And they came to really staff these elite universities.

 

And the academic world is very top down. If you control Harvard and other Ivy League and the big campuses, well, if you’re very influential there, well, you’re going to be influential throughout the academic world, because that’s how it works. Somebody at a lower ranking college is not going to have the influence that someone at Harvard really does, or Yale does.

 

Natty: Yeah, I see. One of the things that’s happened really recently, which I’m not sure if you’re aware of when you wrote the preface, because obviously I think the preface was written recently or relatively recently. Is that right?

 

Kevin MacDonald: What is that?

 

Natty: The preface, or the introduction?

 

Kevin MacDonald: The preface was written in 2002.

 

19 – Ken Burns Blaming America for the Holocaust

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Natty: Right. Okay. The intro page talks about how, … I wasn’t aware of this before the last couple of years, and I’ve only really been aware of this question of this issue in the last eight or nine years. But it seems to me that there’s a shift now, and I don’t know if you’ve heard of him. There’s a gentleman called Ken Burns who’s made a documentary recently that seems to blame America or seems to be shifting in the direction of blaming America for the Holocaust. Have you heard about this?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yes.

 

Natty: Does this fit into the theory of the book?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Well, Burns is not jewish, but he has plenty of jewish support for it and some collaboration.

 

But, yeah, it blames America for the Holocaust in the sense that America, … And I watched part of a couple of episodes, and it’s extremely propagandistic! I mean, it really is.

 

For example, I talked about the 1924 immigration law. From the standpoint of Burns in that documentary, that film. That was just a horrible thing to do! Because they kept jews out. What’s really missing there is any understanding of American interests! They have no concern about America. During the 1930s, America was in a Great Depression. We didn’t really come out of the Great Depression until the middle of World War II. And they had all the ramping up of the industry and all the government spending on defense in the military. So we were in a depression. We didn’t want to admit anybody!

 

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20 – A Lot of Anti-Jewish Sentiment in America as Jews Were Seen as Radicals

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And by the way, there was a lot of anti-Jewish sentiment in America at that time, because jews were seen correctly, in my opinion, as radicals. So many of the jews that came over in the first part of the 20th century were Orthodox jews. They came from these shetls in Poland, they were Orthodox, and a lot of them were also radicals, political radicals. And so jews very quickly became part of the far-Left in America. And they were sympathetic to the rise to the Bolshevik Revolution, for example.

 

And so these jewish organisations that were part of the mainstream jewish community, that were communist affiliated. And that kind of thing.

 

So there was this lingering sentiment against jews because of their role in the Left. And that is never mentioned. It’s just that America kept them out, as if the only reason possibly it could be that it was anti-Jewish. Again, it was partly anti-Jewish, I think, to some extent, maybe. But it was also economic. We were undergoing a depression. And if you’re going to admit jews, why not admit anybody else who is suffering economically, like in Western Europe or places like that?

 

Anyway, the point is, this is very much a propaganda thing. I didn’t watch the whole thing, but it’s really all about blaming Americans for the Holocaust, that we didn’t do enough, and that our immigration law was a disaster for jews.

 

Natty: Right.

 

21 – 1924 Immigration Law and the “Holocaust”

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Kevin MacDonald: And that’s still the case. Any jew that’s had any jewish education, they know about the 1924 law, and they have a big hostility towards the White majority for enacting it.

 

And I think that’s a lot of the you know, we talked about the fear that they have of an uprising against jews, but there’s also loathing hatred against the American White majority because of what they have done in the past. Front and centre now is things like slavery. But from the jewish point of view, that’s what some writers have called is sort of remote control operation against anti-semitism. The real focus here of these people is to combat anti-semitism by championing a sort of anti-White narrative of American history. That America is evil to the core.

 

Natty: Yeah. So on the 1924 immigration law, there’s a quote here from Gould on page 34. You talk about this, and he says:

 

“The quotas slowed immigration from the Southern and Eastern Europe to a trickle. Throughout the 1930s, jewish refugees anticipating the Holocaust sought to emigrate, but were not admitted. Legal quotas and continuing eugenic propaganda barred them, even in the years when inflated quotas for Western and Northern European nations were not filled. Chase has estimated that the quotas barred up to 6 million – there’s that number – Southern, Central, and Eastern Europeans between 1924 and the outbreak of World War II. We know what happened to many who wished to leave but had nowhere to go. The path to destruction are often indirect, but ideas can be agents as sure as guns and bombs.”

 

That’s kind of libellous against people who, even before anything had happened in Germany at that time, is blaming America for it. Americans and American politicians for it.

 

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Kevin MacDonald: Exactly! Yeah, 1924, way before National Socialism, Hitler and everything.

 

And so the mindset at that time was they could see that the ethnic conflict was brewing in America because of all this immigration. And a lot of people, they wanted to have a sort of cooling off period where people could assimilate and sort of become Americans, because you really had a lot of ethnic enclaves at that time. And the Italians and Poles and so on, they assimilated, but jews never really did. They assimilated in the sense that they could speak English and became part of the American establishment and all that, but they never really identified with America, and they continued to really not identify as Americans.

 

And so more and more now, you see, even on jewish publications, you see, they don’t identify as White people. And because Whites are under so much criticism and hate now in America. Jews don’t want to identify with that. For a long time, jews did. If it’s beneficial to be White, they would say they’re White.

 

But now that it’s not beneficial, they are backing away from that.

 

Natty: Well, that phenomenon I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but that phenomenon itself has been fairly well documented in the last several years by people on the dissident Right. Where you can contrast opposing quotes. So maybe on Twitter or something. Yeah, I’m sure you’ve seen a massive infographics where you’ve got people saying:

 

“Oh, Whiteness should be destroyed. Whiteness is terrorism. And then on the opposite page, you’ll have, I’m not White, I’m jewish.”

 

Kevin MacDonald: Exactly! Or else they’ll pose as White people. They’ll say:

 

“My fellow Whites, we must, ..!”

 

Sort of meme.

 

Natty: Yeah, [chuckling] I saw a very funny meme recently where a wasp is flying up to a bumblebee, and he gives this great spiel about:

 

“Hello, my fellow bee!”

 

And the bee calls him out, and the wasp just says:

 

“Oy vey! I hope you get stung!”

 

On a serious note, though, that does raise the question of and I know you talk about this later in the book. I’m kind of jumping chapters here a little bit because I’m probably coming forward to the conclusion of the book. But that sets up a very dangerous situation for jews in the West. Right?

 

If they denigrate this group of people who they also need as hosts or need to blend in with in order to continue this kind of evolutionary survival, the strategy for survival that they have.

 

22 – Jewish Alliances with Other Racial Groups Against Whites

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Kevin MacDonald: Yeah, well, it’s dangerous, but at the same time, what jews have done to make it less dangerous is to promote the immigration of all these other groups. And all the big jewish organisations have made alliances with the non-White groups, with blacks. Beginning in the early 20th century, with the National Association for the Advancement of the Colored People, a pro-black organisation. Jews organised that, and all the attorneys and everything of that organisation were jews, at least until the 1930s. They originated in 1909. It was a totally jewish operation, but also certainly Hispanics, Latinos, and Asians. They’ve all tried their best to make alliances with those groups. They’ve been pretty successful. So they really see this non-White alliance, including jews, against White America, as a way of the future.

 

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And that’s why immigration has been so important to them. Right now. Our Secretary of Homeland Security is Alejandro Mayorkas. He’s jewish, and he has admitted they’re not enforcing any border laws anymore! They’re just walking over the border, and they get them to check in, in a while, we’ll hear your case. It’ll be a couple of years before they hear it. And they’ll never expel, these people.

 

Natty: You’re preaching to the choir on this one.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah, it’s the Great Replacement!

 

Natty: Yeah, I know you said a million people in the US.

 

Kevin MacDonald: So they think they can win this I think. They think they can win.

 

Natty: But it does raise a question, though. On these kind of alliances with other racial groups who they’ve helped expand in the United States and other countries in the West. They don’t seem to be, and I know this is a theory, not so much a fact, but they don’t seem so prone to the kind of what you might call or what you might call “pathological altruism”. That has been the reason why it’s been so easy for us as White Europeans to go along with this, or to be led down this path. Do you see that that could also happen to Hispanics and blacks?

 

I mean, there’s already been some pushback. I know you probably saw recently the Kanye West has come out and seemed to have ignited something. Maybe it might be a flash in the pan or otherwise. But do you think these other groups will be prone to the same problems that we’ve had over the last 100, 200, however long it is years?

 

23 – Anti-Semitism Among Blacks and Other Non-Whites

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Kevin MacDonald: They might. You mentioned Kanye West. And actually there’s a history of black anti-semitism going way back because jews in the black neighbourhoods, like in New York City and other big cities would own the apartment houses and they would own the pawn shops, they would own the little stores and all that. And they did not treat their black customers very well, exploited them really high interest rates and all that. And blacks aren’t very good at managing money.

 

And so you had this exploitation theme, and so they hated jews.

 

But certainly the jewish-Black Alliance was strong in the 1960s, and it still is, I think, among the leadership of the blacks. Because black leadership has been just a disaster for black people.

 

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For example, the black leadership hasn’t said anything about immigration, yet immigration impacts blacks most! Economically, because they’re taking the jobs that blacks would naturally be able to have. So there’s competition there. And now we see in LA, Los Angeles, we see a full-on conflict now between blacks and Latinos. I think Latinos are a majority of the city now. But recently, these Latino politicians and labour leaders, they came out saying these really anti-black things and sort of freaking people out.

 

So there’s a lot of conflict among these groups. But jews are betting, I think, that these groups ultimately can be persuaded to be anti-White.

 

And of course, the other part of the equation is these White liberals. You’d mentioned pathological altruism, and I think that it does become pathological at some point. But we Westerners are individualists at heart, and I wrote a book on that. And in that book individualists are much less prone to see other people as out-groups. They see other people as individuals.

 

24 – Sam Bankman Fried — A Jewish Fraudster

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And so when a jew does something terrible, like just now, we have this huge financial scandal with this guy Sam Bankman Fried. He’s not seen as a typical jew or having any connection with jews. He’s seen as someone who is a bad individual and not someone who is part of a long history of jewish fraud. Bernie Madoff, Andrew Joyce has written quite a bit on that, and I’ve written some, not in Culture of Critique. But yeah, I mean, it’s a common kind of thing.

 

And we have an article now, it’s gotten a lot of attention on the sort of family aspect of that, is that this guy’s parents are both prominent law Professors, but they were involved with Sam’s crypto adventure. And that has completely imploded and there’s a lot of suspicion that there’s a lot of fraud involved in that they made off with a lot of money here as need they’re talking about restoring all that money, but it really is not going to happen, I don’t think.

 

Natty: Well, increasingly it’s looking like he may not even get in trouble. That might be naive of me to say, but he hasn’t been pulled back, or there’s no high level talk about things that are going to happen to him.

 

But you’re right. I mean, certainly not by us, but certainly by the mainstream. He’s obviously not talked about as being jewish. He’s just this curly haired kind of freakish money guy who messed up somehow.

 

Kevin MacDonald: He “made a mistake”!

 

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Mark Collett: Yeah his mistake was obviously, … For people who don’t know what he actually did was he was selling people Bitcoin and people were cover what was in everybody’s wallet.

 

So if you went to FTX and you bought four Bitcoins and say 999 other people went and bought four Bitcoins, well, that’s a thousand people buying four Bitcoins. So you think, well, there’s 4,000 Bitcoins there, but there weren’t. There might have only been a thousand Bitcoins there.

 

So he was making huge amounts of money selling crypto-currency that didn’t actually even exist, hoping that basically the market would carry on inflating and inflating. As it inflated he could buy more to cover what he claimed he had. But it was all done on the basis of:

 

“Well, not everybody is going to withdraw their Bitcoin on the same day. And as long as they don’t, everything will be fine.”

 

And obviously this is what’s been done with gold in the past, where jewish bankers would take people’s gold, they’d say:

 

“We’ll hold your gold for you and we’ll give you slips, IOUs saying, I own this much gold.”

 

And eventually they issued more slips to people than there was gold. So they created this money supply on the back of something not being there.

 

Then eventually when people said:

 

“Well, actually, can we all have our gold back?”

 

There was nowhere near enough gold to cover the pieces of paper handed out on the back of that. And it’s a classic scheme! But the fact that this hasn’t been discussed in the light that it should have been tells you everything you need to know. And people are saying:

 

“Oh, well, we need to clamp down on crypto!”

 

And that’s an odd thing to say, isn’t it? That’s like a guy walking into a bank with a gun and saying:

 

“Right, hand over all your cash!”

 

And then the authorities at the end saying:

 

“Let’s not bother with the bank robber. Let’s clamp down on these banks!”

 

Ironically, it almost goes against another thing that jews push because it is classic victim blaming! So crypto holders and the crypto industry, which has been scammed by this jew, are actually the ones who are being blamed.

 

So it’s the entire industry and everyone who owns crypto who now has to be regulated due to the actions of this one guy.

 

Anyway, Aunt Sally is also here. I hope you sorted out your Mike now, Aunt Sally, you’ve been in and out so far tonight. I’ve seen you disappear and reappear a few times. Are we up and running?

 

Kevin MacDonald: What’s that?

 

Mark Collett: We’ve got another reviewer on the show, but she’s been having problems with her mike. So I don’t know if we can hear or not. And if not, I’m going to throw it back to Natty. We can hear you. It’s just we can’t hear her. Natty, carry on, my friend.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Oh, okay.

 

25 – Are We Seeing a Sea Change in Regard to How Jews Operate?

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Natty: She may not realise she’s muted, but I’ll carry on.

 

Do you think we’re seeing a sea change? I mean, the book is now 25 years old.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah.

 

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Natty: Just given your general thoughts on what’s happened since the books being published, are we moving into a different kind of era of this kind of the broad spectrum of the JQ? I’ve heard it said that they’re having to assume more direct control.

 

If you look at Biden’s cabinet, for instance, they’re simply not trusting goys to run things in the same way that they used to because there’s too many rogue elements, there’s too much information slippage, there’s too many people saying things they don’t like. Do you see that continuing or do you think it’s a change? Or is that me being optimistic, [chuckling] because I’m naive?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Certainly the ADL, the Anti-Defamation League in America is a big activist jewish organisation. And for them, it’s like, what do we call Whacka Mole! It’s constantly arising and they have to tamp it down. So they have a big campaign for censorship, for example. But it keeps coming up. I mean, recently, Kanye West and Kyrie Irving, the basketball player.

 

And just recently now, now Donald Trump invited Kanye West, or Kanye invited himself to Mar-a-Lago*, to Trump’s place. And he brought along Nick Fuentes! Who is a podcaster, and he said anti-Holocaust revisionist kind of things. And he’s pro-White and all that. And Trump claims he didn’t know that Fuentes was coming, but:

 

“Oh, is that a big deal? He invites Nazi to Mar-a-Lago!”

 

It’s constant, that they have to keep going after this.

 

[* Mar-a-Lago is a resort and national historic landmark in Palm Beach, Florida, owned by former U.S. President Donald Trump. Trump acquired Mar-a-Lago in 1985 and referred to it as his “Winter White House” and “Southern White House” during his presidential tenure.]

 

But I don’t see a big change.

 

If you look at the media, it could be that people are wising up. I think black people, mean you’ve got Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam. He’s very explicitly anti-Jewish!

 

So I do think that can spread in the black community. And they’re not going to take the ADL’s word for Kanye West. You’ll still see black leaders who want to maintain their position. They’re not going to be able to go against jewish power because they know what happened to Kanye West, he lost a billion and a half dollars or something.

 

So they understand jewish power, and basically don’t want to mess with it.

 

But I do think the popular attitudes, it’s seeping through a little bit. It’s becoming more mainstream.

 

26 – MacDonald Has High Hopes for Twitter with Elon Musk

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And the thing is, I have high hopes for Twitter now. I think Elon Musk is genuinely trying to change things. I’ve never gotten kicked off Twitter, and I certainly post some things that would be seen as anti-Jewish. The ADL hates me.

 

I mean, I’ve got a huge file there at the ADL website.

 

Natty: You should wear that as a badge of honour, probably.

 

Kevin MacDonald: But I’m just hoping that Twitter could really become a platform for honest discussion of jewish issues, which is the last thing the jewish community wants. What’s so ironic about the Kanye West thing is what Kanye West says is that jews have all this power in Hollywood that they can shut people down. And what happened when he said that? He got shut down! It’s pretty obvious that jews do have power and that they can make or break the careers of many, many, many people.

 

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And God knows they tried to get rid of me. The ADL was on campus, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is basically, it’s not explicitly a jewish organisation, but it’s jewish funded. And a lot of jews were on the staff at the time, and they wanted to get me fired. They couldn’t because of the rules about tenure at the university in America. So thank God for that.

 

But, yeah, they want to fire anybody that they have power over. And so many people can’t do what I did. People say I’m brave. Well, I wasn’t really brave because they couldn’t fire me. Kanye West is sort of brave for saying that. I think Kanye West, though, he’s a little impulsive and he’s not all there.

 

I can’t imagine someone going to Donald Trump and saying:

 

“Would you be my running mate?”

 

Like, Kanye West is going to be the presidential candidate vice president. That’s ridiculous! And it can only come from someone who’s a little bit deranged. [chuckling]

 

But it’s a constant battle for the ADL now, and we’ll see what happens.

 

27 – ADL and Twitter, Tesla

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Natty: Sure? Yeah, I agree. I do think it would be nice to see the ADL booted off Twitter by Elon Musk.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Oh, that’d be nice! They’ve already said all kinds of negative things about Musk on Twitter.

 

Natty: I’m pretty sure using the platform of a company to try and destroy that company, it’s insanely, … The chutzpah of it! It’s insane!

 

Kevin MacDonald: There’s talk of an investigation. I think they’re investigating Tesla now, which is Musk’s big operation where he makes an awful lot of his money, and they’re investigating, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the official government organisation. So we’ll see what happens.

 

I mean, they could come down against Tesla, and it would be a real test of jewish power. If they could ruin Elon Musk, and Tesla, that would be an amazing feat of jewish power. We’ll see. They certainly would love to see it.

 

Natty: Yeah, I think so. It would entirely depend on., … It seems to me like everything that happened with Elon’s takeover of Twitter has been a series of escalations by the jewish power structure. Where first of all, it’s Lawsuits against the acquisition of the company.

 

And then the ADL steps in and they start now they’re talking about he’s kind of broken this agreement, or possibly or they’ve broken the agreement. So now they’re talking about taking off the Google and Samsung Play stores or whatever it is, the Apple Play store.

 

So there’s a series of steps, these escalations and steps where each time they have to reveal more of their power, they have the power to take it off the A.

 

Stores from Apple and Google. It’s more confirmation how much, …

 

Kevin MacDonald: Go ahead.

 

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Natty: This incredible range of power they have. And then if they do that and it still doesn’t stop, then they had to go above and beyond and get the SEC involved in investigating Tesla and shutting down Tesla. And then if that doesn’t work, if he carries on running his mouth or using his money to do something else, then what are they going to do? Assassinate him? I mean, who knows?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Interesting, today, yesterday, he tweeted. He said:

 

“That if they removed those apps from the Apple and Google that he will start his own phone, he’ll develop his own smartphone.”

 

Natty: Yeah, I’m sure they’re already thinking about ways [chuckling] to counter that. Attacks on lithium mining or something like that. He would almost have to set up an entire, I mean, it comes down to just build your own country to escape these people!

 

Kevin MacDonald: It’d be interesting because a big push to the Left is going for electric cars and all that, but maybe they’ll start saying:

 

“Well, maybe we should go back to gas!”

 

Natty: Yeah, [chuckling]. Mark, I’ll throw it back to you if you want.

 

Mark Collett: No, I always like to give you a chance to talk on these things, Natty, because obviously I do so many shows, and I’ve had the pleasure of speaking to Kevin many times.

 

But we could do some of the Superchats. I can have a look and see if we’ve got some Superchats because we have just reached the hour, and we do have some Superchats.

 

Natty: Before you do, if you’re willing to let me, I’d go into a subject that may just be a minute long, or it may now, …

 

Mark Collett: No, go for it, mate. We’ve got another hour. We’ve got some Superchats on Entropy. Some on Odysee. We’ve lost Aunt Sally. So it’s all down to you, big man. You are now in charge of the show, Natty!

 

28 – The Vampire Myth and Jews

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Natty: Okay, well, I wanted to ask you something. As I was reading I can’t remember which chapter it was, but something came to my mind that was buried back there a little while ago and that is the vampire myth, that I’m guessing originated in Eastern Europe, I think. I may be wrong about that. Do you have any thoughts on that? Is this pertinent to jewish power of the way that the jews operated in Eastern Europe?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Well, I don’t know. I don’t know much about the origins of that myth, the vampire idea. But it certainly suggests the blood sucking and one of the big things that happened in 2008 with the financial crisis. This journalist, Matt Talibbi talking about Goldman Sachs, and he said* that:

 

“This is like a giant squid jamming it’s, in the neck of the other organism and sucking the blood out!”

 

[* Rolling Stone’s Matt Taibbi once famously described Goldman Sachs as: “A great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessy jamming it’s blood funnel into anything that smells like money.”]

 

29 – Jews as Parasite and Predators

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And that’s the thing. It’s like a parasitic sort of metaphor. And jews have often been described as parasites. Although I would describe them more as predators, actually. That you look at interest, the whole long history of money lending and all that, they’re preying on people who are, … Especially the economically not so well off. It’s always that way that they prey on the weak. And they’re still doing that today, of course.

 

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Natty: I think probably the reluctance to call them predators is that they’ve always been physically weaker [chuckling] than White European men. To call someone a predator implies muscle and speed and strength maybe. Might be part of the reason.

 

Mark Collett: No, not at all. Actually, Natty, I’m going to have to correct you there. If you actually look at several species of animals and sea creatures, there are a number of different predators who have an evolutionary advantage because they actually are, or play physically weak, but have a way of doing so which entices other animals towards them. So that this sort of creature plays weak. It plays as if it is really prey itself, only for the animals to venture near to get ensnared and get defeated, despite the fact that the animal that is getting ensnared appears physically stronger or appears as the more physically dominant creature.

 

So there are more ways to be a predator than just through brute force. Cunning and guile are certainly important.

 

Kevin MacDonald: That’s true. There are some interesting parasites in nature where they infect the brain of the host and make the host act on behalf of the parasite.

 

And so it’s like taking over the mind, the brain of the other animal. And that’s very apt metaphor. Because in a way the brains of our society now really are dominated by jewish brains, and the entire control. It’s like they have the controls of our society, where it’s headed, how you interpret the past and all that. So, both are interesting metaphors.

 

Natty: Can I give you an analogy of the week predator that Mark just outlined.

 

So you’re a rural farmer and you need money for a tractor and a small short disheveled, sniveling, hook nosed, greasy haired man turns up your door and says:

 

“I’ll lend you the money, I’ll give you a decent interest rate, you can borrow the money.”

 

And you think:

 

“Well sure I’ll borrow the money and if I can’t make repayments, well he’s tiny, I’ve got all my sons here and we can flatten him, no big deal!”

 

And then of course you make a late repayment, the interest rate balloons, skyrockets, and of course he doesn’t come back himself, he sends back a pack of massive thugs who work for him. They burn down your farm and take everything you’ve got! [chuckling]

 

30 – Jewish Ethics in Regard to Non-Jews

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Kevin MacDonald: Right. They’ve always preyed the weak. Famously in Eastern Europe, but also in the Middle Ages in Western Europe.

 

But in Eastern Europe they were the ones who ran the taverns that sold alcohol and really facilitated drunkenness. And they were also the usurers and all that, controlling the sort of middlemen and the economy and the merchants and everything.

 

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So yeah, I mean it’s a pervasive thing. And the thing about jews is they don’t attach any moral quality to non-jews. You can exploit them. They’re basically beasts that you can take advantage of because jews, the whole ethic of Judaism, this does not appear, there’s a section of Wikipedia on jewish ethics and it does not remotely resemble what I’m about to say!

 

That their jewish ethics is basically you can exploit other peoples. There are totally different rules for jews and non-jews, which you can see in the Old Testament. But it continues in the Talmud.

 

Slavery, for example, even slavery, you can slave jews, but you have to treat an awful lot better than non-jews.

 

But whatever, killing, robbing, whatever, you can do that with very different standards of morality for jews and non-jews.

 

Natty: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: Well interesting as well when you say this Kevin, because I remember when – I’m sure you’ve heard of him – a guy called Tommy Robinson became very popular in the UK and he used to speak extensively about things that were written in the Islamic holy book in the Quran. And he would go through the Quran and he would say, well this is Islamic terminology that means X, this Islamic terminology means Y.

 

And basically this grants people who are followers of Islam the ability to basically do what they wish to people who aren’t Islamic. And Tommy Robinson, I think he actually wrote a book he definitely published. I think it’s called Muhammad’s Koran. I think that’s what it’s actually called. And it’s basically him going through the Quran pointing these things out bit by bit.

 

And I always find this very, very interesting because if you say to these people, well actually if you look at the Talmud, the Talmud is far worse than the Koran or the Bible, when it comes to the things that it calls for on the heads of people who are from other religious backgrounds or other communities. These people will have none of that! They won’t entertain that one bit!

 

But some of the things written in the Talmud, you can tell this isn’t something that has come about, this anti-gentile sentiment, it’s not something that’s come about sort of post World War II, as some people naively think. But this anti-gentile sentiment has existed for, you know, centuries, thousands of years. And you can actually trace it right back even to biblical times.

 

31 – Tikkun Olam “You Help the World” Deception

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Kevin MacDonald: Absolutely! It’s in the Old Testament and it’s pervasive. And only in the 19th century when jews were trying to present themselves as just normal people and they were trying to tone down jewish religious services to make them look like more Christian and all that, only then did they develop this whole idea that “jews are a light unto the nations”.

 

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Actually, it appears, I guess in the Old Testament too, but it became the sort of ideology of jews in the modern world:

 

“We are the light unto the nations, we are the ethical paragons and we are the people who are the book, who are just ethically superior to you non-jews.”

 

That’s an absolute bedrock staple of the way jews see themselves now, as helping the world. Tikkun olam* is a Hebrew, “You help the world”.

 

[* Tikkun olam is a concept in Judaism, which refers to various forms of action intended to repair and improve the world. In classical rabbinic literature, the phrase referred to legal enactments intended to preserve the social order.]

 

So all their actions are geared to helping other people. And I have a whole chapter on self-deception in my book, Separation and Its Discontents on anti-semitism, because you see so much of that l How can anybody actually believe that, when you look at jewish actions throughout history?

 

But that’s what it is.

 

So I think there’s a lot of self-deception and of course there’s deception. They promote this. A lot of them probably don’t even believe it.

 

When we see Israel now. Israel is held up as this paragon of democracy and freedom! And here they are oppressing Palestinians, very racially apartheid and all that.

 

And yet American jewish organisations [chuckling] are gung-ho pro-Israel, and yet in America they are gung-ho anti-White. And any kind of discrimination by White people will be horrible, horrible racism! But they do it in Israel, routinely. In the American political establishment, absolutely on board with that! Absolute fealty to Israel!

 

32 – The (((Sam Bankman Fried))) Crypto Fraud

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Natty: This self-deception in regards to Tikkun olam or these paragons of moral virtue was revealed in the (((Sam Bankman Fried))) debacle, where even now there’s articles coming out saying:

 

“He was so altruistic! His whole raison d’être was to help people.”

 

And this philanthropic kind of investment strategies and all this other stuff.

 

Even now, when it was revealed that he was basically just a thief and he was running a Ponzi scheme, they’re still trying to claim that he was:

 

“Just a lovely guy who wanted to help people and invest all his money!”

 

There’s an aspect of self-deception, but also just a willingness to deceive and carry on this ridiculous lie that these people are good for humanity or stand above everyone else when it comes to ethics and morals.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah. The same time, he was paying off these regulators of the crypto industry to make sure that he would not get any kind of regulatory problems with the government. He’s not altruistic at all.

 

Mark Collett: We’ll do some Superchats in about three minutes.

 

But I want to say this. It almost looked to me when you see these Mafia scams on things like The Sopranos, it almost seemed like that to me. Because on one hand, he’s creating money that doesn’t exist and this is all backed up by nothing – but by something – but just insufficient amounts of Bitcoin to what he was selling. So he was selling thousands of Bitcoin and he didn’t have the thousands of Bitcoin to back up what he sold.

 

So eventually, when there was a run on the platform, everything collapsed. And some people have got their Bitcoin out because there was some on the exchanges, but a lot of people lost everything.

 

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But when you actually look at it, how did this come about? Well, it came about in absolute collusion with the Democrats! And the Democrats were accepting vast, vast sums of money from this guy!

 

So this wasn’t just an issue of the Democrats playing sort of taking things off him as like:

 

“Oh, thanks for the donation.”

 

The Democrats were taking so many, I think it might have even been millions, or was it even billions in donations from this guy. He was funding them, and as such, he was basically avoiding any form of regulation. So as long as he pumped money into the Democratic Party, as long as he pumped money their way, and as long as he kept that agenda going, which is obviously the open border agenda, that basically left him in a situation where he was untouchable by any form of regulation.

 

And the whole thing is just like the Mafia! And it involves the politicians, it involves the scammer, and who are, and I’m going to say this, but if you said to me:

 

“Who did I think the average person was who missed out on all this, or who lost out?”

 

The average person losing out will be your little White guy who thought:

 

“You know what? I’m going to put ten grand into Bitcoin because it’s booming!”

 

And they’re thinking to themselves:

 

“Whoa! You know, I put some money into Bitcoin when it was six grand a coin and it boomed and it’s still now at 16 grand, so I’ve made some money. And this is my little nest egg!”

 

And it’s that White guy who made a couple of investments with his life savings or the money he got when his mum passed away or his granddad passed away, who put everything into this just to make his life or the life of his family a little bit better. And they’re the ones that lost out. And the people that benefited are basically this jewish guy, this jewish guy’s family, and the politicians that he associates with who push most vehemently this open border, anti-White policies.

 

And again, the people that lose out on every level is your average White guy. And I just see this again and again and again with what they do! And I often find this funny. I’ve got to ask this question because we talked earlier about analogies in nature and we’re going to do the Superchats after this, so let’s just breeze through this. But there are animals in nature that form what are called symbiotic relationships with one another.

 

So one of these animals helps the other. There’s one of them with a shark, and there’s a little fish that swims around the sharks. And the sharks don’t eat that particular little fish. They never eat that little fish. Because that little fish actually spends it’s time cleaning parasites and other things off the shark.

 

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Another example is there is a fish which gets invaded by a bug. And the bug eats the fish’s tongue but then behaves as the fish’s tongue and eats the nasty things that might do harm to the fish if the fish ingested him.

 

So it’s a symbiotic relationship. These animals live sort of in pairs or in some form of symbiosis, whereby one actually helps the other, and then they both get something out of that relationship. They both get something good from their partnership.

 

33 – Why Can’t Jews Live in Harmony with Others?

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Now, Kevin, I’ve got to ask you this. Obviously, if jews lived in the West and they produced healthy moral media. And they produced good things and they didn’t do the negative things, I can see a situation where they could live in peaceful sort of symbiosis with Western populations. Why do you think they always choose not to take that route? Why do they never choose to live in peaceful symbiosis but always seem to follow a path that ultimately ends up with them, like today, in many ways, where today a lot of people are now saying:

 

“Hey, look! These guys are a bit of a negative on our society.”

 

Why do they always take that path? Why can they never just provide things that people want and live in harmony with others?

 

I think you muted, Kevin.

 

Kevin MacDonald: I’m sorry, maybe you can edit that out. I’m often asked what I advocate should be done to the jews, or that you should do, and I certainly say:

 

“Stop doing what you’re doing!”

 

And if they did that and started to help us reverse the process, there’d be no problem.

 

But I think that the jewish history, this hostile, this attitude that all the world’s against us, that we have to protect ourselves from the goyim and especially White goyim that may turn into “Nazis” at any moment, that attitude is pervasive.

 

And so they really do not trust non-jewish people and especially White people, in the long run. I don’t think it’s possible to have a sort of peace, some kind of status quo that we could all agree on for the jewish issues. Because there’s just a long history. The whole jewish mindset is this attitude that non-jews have no moral value!

 

And so you start out like that. You’re not going to be positive about these other people, and you’re going to do what you can to mess them up. And that seems to be what’s happening.

 

Natty: But the other thing that is laid out quite early on in the book, which kind of precludes what you’re saying, Mark, can never happen, is that the motivation, one of the driving motivations for this jewish ethnocentrism, this in-group preference, is anti-semitism. That’s what drives them. It’s not positive. It’s not a positive vision. This falsehood of Tikkun olam or whatever it is, the driving force of this behaviour is anti-semitism or this perception of anti-semitism. If we don’t do this to these people, they will pogrom us, or they will kick us out. They will do horrible things to us.

 

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34 – Jews Want Total Authoritarian Control of Society, a Digital Gulag

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Kevin MacDonald: I agree. That’s what it is so jews are totally in the idea of control!

 

And so I see now, I think the jewish elite, people elite positions are heading in the direction of really advocating authoritarian control of society, as you had in the Soviet Union, as you have in China, and as we see increasingly heading towards in America and throughout the West. That is censorship of ideas you don’t want. Putting dissidents in prison. That sort of thing, and basically having authoritarian control over all media.

 

That’s why Elon Musk is so angry at these people now. They see their control of the media slipping away. You’ve got Tucker Carlson on Fox News talking about the Great Replacement and going after the ADL. And in general, that’s the kind of thing we see now and then you got Kanye West, where you have celebrities. It’s one thing to have some guy that nobody has heard about being anti-Jewish. It’s another thing for a celebrity.

 

And so they really police that! And they want to prevent those kind of influential people from any kind of role in our society.

 

But what they want, they want communist control over thought, and action, and the media, and the Gulags. That’s what they want.

 

Natty: Well, Morgoth of Morgoth Review, it might not have been him, but someone has coined the term the Digital Gulag. It seems like that’s what they’re working towards. And this acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk is kind of breaking that slightly or putting cracks into that idea of a Digital Gulag.

 

35 – Superchats – MacDonald’s Relationship with David Sloan Wilson?

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Mark Collett: All right, let’s do some of these Superchats because we have had some and I appreciate them all greatly. So let us do this. We will start with the Entropy Superchats. And we’ve got the following a guy who calls himself, I Am a Stupid Moron, which is a strange name, has given a number of Superchats. And his Superchats are as follows. He says:

 

“Big fan of Kevin MacDonald. He helped me on my transition from socialist to centrist and neocon to paleo conservative. What is Kevin’s relationship with David Sloan Wilson?”

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah, David Sloan Wilson and I were collaborating in the late eighties and early nineties, and then it sort of fell apart when I wrote Culture of Critique in 1998. His politics are very liberal, typical academic.

 

But yeah, he’s a pioneer in-group selection theory. And for example, he organised a panel at one of the conferences in Human Behavior and Evolution Society. And I was on that. And we corresponded a lot and all that. But because of what I’ve done since then, … In my opinion, I just took the whole in-group selection idea and instantiated it, gave a great example of it. But he doesn’t want to go there.

 

So we don’t talk anymore.

 

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Mark Collett: I’m sorry to hear that. The same gentleman asked:

 

“Hey, Mark, can you give an update of CoC, Culture of Critique, to Jason? And asked Kevin how other successful minorities i.e., Chinese in Southeast Asia adopt a group evolutionary strategy that isn’t fundamentally antagonistic to the host populations. They are the cause of our problems.”

 

Yes, I will post a copy of the CoC to Jason. He also asked Kevin:

 

“I want to transition to becoming a full stack web developer as a career. Would love to make some dissident intellectual websites as taking my part and contributing to the cause. Can I make a website for you?”

 

Kevin MacDonald: For me? I don’t quite understand.

 

Mark Collett: I think he wants to design a new website for you.

 

Kevin MacDonald: A new website for me? Yeah, I could do that. I have a website. KevinMacDonald.net. Has a lot of my publications on it. I have to talk to the person, see what the ideas it has in mind.

 

Mark Collett: Basically, if you want to contact Kevin about private business matters like that, best you write to him. You can find him at The Occidental Observer. And he asked one last question. He said:

 

“Why can’t mainstream media pick up on the obvious double standards of jews when it comes to Israel? Israel is far-Right ethno-state. They ban pornography, abortion, practices apartheid against brown people, no refugees.”

 

36 – Superchats – Could Other Ethnic Groups Oust Jews in Certain Parts of America?

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But I think that question was answered earlier. The media don’t get this out because the media is owned by jews. Unknown Californian gave $3. Thank you so much! He said:

 

“This is the most excellent show. Definitely something that needs to be discussed and a great educational tool. Hail Kevin!”

 

I agree with that. He also gave $10. Thank you Unknown California, and he said:

 

“The name we do not speak of has a several trillion dollar war chest dominating academia, media, news and finance. Would Whites who built these institutions and were either pushed out or abandoned retake these industries? Or is there other groups who have organisational and financial resources?”

 

So could anyone else, what he’s saying is, could anyone else take over academia, media and news?

 

And obviously what Natty asked a very important question. After what we’ve seen in California recently, could you potentially see other people, say Hispanics who have in-group preference ousting jews in certain parts of America as the demographic change occurs?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Well, it could happen, I suppose. But it’s a long uphill fight to really take over. You have to occupy the elite positions and that means academic world, it means media, so much of which is owned by jews and contributors to the media are jews. It’s a long process.

 

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And the problem with, say, with Latinos in California, this is not a real high achieving group. A lot of what they have achieved now is because of affirmative action. Where they get promoted and admitted to various things with lower test scores and lower qualifications than Whites. Asians are an interesting example of that. And I do think Asians in the long run may really see themselves as allying with Whites, because they’re a high achieving group.

 

37 – Super Achieving Asians

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On the other hand, Whites are going to have some conflicts of interest with Asians. And Asians are super achieving and Whites are getting pushed out of elite institutions now by jews and Asians.

 

It’s interesting, Ron Unz, a recent piece, he studied admissions at Harvard and places like that. And what you see is a rise in Asian admissions and it really declined in White admissions that corresponds to that. But the jewish enrollment staying about the same. And that’s the reality. And this is despite the fact that jewish academic achievement in their test scores and stuff has been falling. They are not as achieving kind of minority as they used to be in terms of academic ability and so on.

 

They’re sort of relaxed, and upper middle class and they don’t strive as hard as their ancestors did. And I predicted this in the last chapter of Culture Critique. I said we’re going to see as an Asian-jewish elite, where jews run the media, verbal, law, jurisprudence and so on.

 

And Asians are the sort of technocrats. Technology and that sort of thing.

 

And I think we are sort of seeing that.

 

Natty: Well, increasingly as well they’re now using Indians from the subcontinent.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Indians too. They’re another high achieving group in this country. They’re very high average income, higher than Whites. This immigration thing is a disaster for White people! That we’re going to be pushed out by higher achieving groups from the rest of the world. And it’s probably happening in the UK as well, but certainly in this country with the Asians really dominating test scores in college admissions and so on.

 

So to the point where Harvard is explicitly discriminating against them, against Asians. And they are not being admitted according to your test score. So they make up some fuzzy category:

 

“Well, they don’t have the right personality or something.”

 

Natty: One of the spin-offs to the comments you were just making.

 

Now, I think this is a lesser point, but might feed into it is the acceptance of these Indians, for instance, and Pakistanis and probably in America, South Americans, Mexicans, to really eat up the slop that the media puts out these days in a way that I think increasingly White people are becoming really tired of! Adverts full of Africans, and really in your face obvious propaganda from producers such as Netflix and Amazon and the rest of it.

 

Whereas these kind of racial strangers who are relatively new to these lands just they love it! They can’t get enough of it.

 

Whereas we’re seemingly and maybe this is anecdotal becoming really tired of this crap that they’re feeding us.

 

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38 – Constant Non-Whites in Ads and Movies

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Kevin MacDonald: Yeah, we see in America. Just look at any TV commercials. It’s almost like they have a law that there have to be blacks in it. You think that blacks are majority in this country just by looking at TV commercials! So it’s constant propaganda. And I would think they could say good.

 

But we just had this midterm election and White people voted mostly for Republicans, but disappointingly. So and if you take out the Christian Evangelicals, the majority of Whites voted for the Democrats. And the Democrats are now really dominated by the radical Left. This whole gender ideology, transsexualism and all that. A lot of anti-White hostility coming from prominent Democrat liberal Left media figures like on MSNBC.

 

So I don’t know. White people just don’t seem to get it yet. And I wish we had more influence, you and I, in the media. And we don’t.

 

39 – Jewish Strategy Backfiring?

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Mark Collett: I will second that. Right, we’ll move on to the next Superchat. Max Anderson gave £5. Thanks so much. And said:

 

“I don’t understand. If the jews manage to replace Whites with non-Whites, then advanced civilisation will collapse. I don’t see how the jews benefit unless jews hate Whites so much they don’t care.”

 

Yeah, the long term strategy isn’t particularly good. Would you say that some of this is a matter of, say, greed, and the fact that some of these people are short termists? Or as the Superchatter put, could this be that just the anti-White hatred clouds their minds to any long term survival strategy?

 

Kevin MacDonald: I think it’s possible. I think that the jews make mistakes and it’s possible that this whole thing could backfire, if White people understand who’s really promoting this and has been promoting it for, …

 

Mark Collett: No, I’ll give you another example. I think this is what the guy was talking about. Sorry to cut in. Say, for example, in countries like Germany and France, you end up getting an awful lot of those that are coming to Germany and France as part of the sort of jewish backed mass immigration scheme. A lot of those people are actually Muslims. And a lot of them are actually hostile. Yes, they’re hostile to Whites often, but they’re also often very hostile to jews, often more so than they are to Whites. To the point where some of these people will actually view Whites as potential converts. And I have met in my life White converts to Islam, et cetera, but they won’t see jews as potential converts. They actually see them as sort of the “great enemy”, especially those who hold the Palestinian cause dear to their heart. And some of this mass immigration has actually caused serious problems on the continent for jewish communities.

 

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Kevin MacDonald: Yes, it’s true. I do think, though, that this sort of activist, elite jewish community, they believe that this can be managed. And you look in France, you do have a hostility towards jews carried out by Muslims. And some jews have left France to go to Israel or whatever. But jewish influence in France is still there, and these elite shoes aren’t moving and they still have huge amount of money and power in the media and they’re not going anywhere. People have written about this. Because ADL I had an article by Abe Foxman, worried that Latino immigrants are not going to have the same attitudes about the Holocaust as White Americans do. And they worry about that. And it’s so true, they probably don’t. And it’s hard to inculcate guilt in black people or Latinos about the Holocaust. That’s mainly directed at White people.

 

So I don’t know, it could happen.

 

But again, I think that jewish power does not rest on the average guy that runs a deli or something like that. It depends on the elite jews who are very wealthy and who have power in the media and the academic world. That’s where the jewish power is. And I just don’t see that being endangered at this point.

 

Natty: Well, to add to that and to echo what you’re saying, it seems like if you were to theory craft this out over the next 20 or 30 years, probably the idea they have, and it may not be a long term thing, is that while they have their hands on the levers of power, they can open and shut these things.

 

So they could cut immigration into France, or the UK, or America even, and then claim it as a victory, as a neocon victory, or in this country, Conservative victory, in which you kind of put the damper back on this kind of racial understanding that may be rising against Whites. You say:

 

“Well, we’ve won a victory. This neocon politician has come out and cut down immigration back down to 200,000 a year instead of a million or whatever else it was.”

 

The problem is, …

 

Mark Collett: You mean like Eric Zemmour in France?

 

Natty: Exactly! Jewish radio host propped up out of nowhere to split the vote, ostensibly from better or more Right-wing parties. Exactly!

 

The problem is for them, if you think about it, that requires an increasingly fragile balance of ethnicities who simply aren’t willing to shed their ethnocentrism. And you’ve seen this with the Asian community in the UK and the black community in the United States. They’re not like us. So you’d have to constantly be pulling these levers of who we can allow to speak now or who we should push to the fore now and who we should pull back now and stamp down on now, which just becomes like a balancing act that, as far as I can tell, would just be almost impossible to maintain without a horrendously, oppressive Police State, which may be in the works, unfortunately.

 

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40 – A Jewish Police State Like the Early Soviet Union

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Kevin MacDonald: So true!

 

And I think that’s what they want! I do think that jews want a state that they can control! And what that means ultimately is authoritarian control.

 

I mean, it’s interesting if you look at jews in the 1950s in America, they were all for free speech, because so many jews were being hauled up in front of investigative committees as being communists.

 

And so they were all for free speech, ACLU [American Civil Liberties Union], all civil liberties and all that.

 

But now this is a reverse. Jewish organisations and jewish law professors and everything else, they’re arguing now for censorship and control. And they have no problem at all with that!

 

And again, the best times for jews was in the early Soviet Union, when they had so much control and they just punished their enemies ruthlessly! Mass murder! We’re talking 20 million people being murdered.

 

This is the society of jews want where they are at the top and they can completely control what’s going on. That’s why this authoritarian streak is more and more prominent in the thinking of the Left.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, thank you. We’ve got another Superchat here. We got two from St. Harrison, both for $3. He says:

 

“Great show everyone, and a great way to end Mrs. Saint Harrison’s birthday weekend!”

 

I didn’t even know it was your birthday, Caribou! Happy birthday! And then she says:

 

“Can we all sing Happy Birthday to her?”

 

Natty?

 

Natty: I’m willing if you are.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Who’s birthday is it?

 

Mark Collett: It’s a lady called Caribou who’s a big supporter of yours. Is everyone willing to sing happy Birthday?

 

Natty: Yes. As long as you understand it’s going to be out of six.

 

Mark Collett: It’s going to be really bad. Three, two, one.

 

Natty: Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday to you!

 

Kevin MacDonald: Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday to you!

 

Mark Collett: Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday to you!

 

Right! And that’s it! We’ll never doing that again! Hope you had a great birthday. Serena JB gave £5. Thank you so much! She said:

 

“Great to hear Dr. MacDonald talk about his masterpiece. Used to love listening to his podcast with Andrew Joyce.”

 

Thank you so much!

 

41 – Superchats – Can the Decline of the West Be Reversed?

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As a Bee gave $5. Thank you very much. He said:

 

“Thank you, Kevin, for all your work. It is so unbelievably appreciated. May I ask what you think can be done to stop the decline of the West and even reverse it? Is it possible or are we gone too far?”

 

Natty: It’s illegal to answer that question, though.

 

Kevin MacDonald: That’s the hard question! If I knew that, … I just wrote an article after the election here a week ago or so, and basically I conclude that there are only a few options.

 

And the fact is we will be a non-White country in the very near future because of the children are already majority non-White. And what do we do? So one option is to go for secession. There are still parts of the country that are very White, that are unhappy with the way things are going. And both conservative.

 

And again, they’re not tuned into our ideas, but they would like to get away from Washington, DC. And we’ll see what happens with that.

 

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But again, the Left is already preparing for that. But they’ve purged the military of people who are considered conservative or certainly White nationalists, and they are arming themselves to the teeth. The present administration, again, Mayorkas said, the jewish head of the Department of Homeland Security, they’re establishing all these terrorist task forces! And they are geared towards Whites who are out of line in some way. And a lot of times it’s what we call “entrapment”, where they come and they suggest illegal activities and they promote them and then they arrest them when they try to do it.

 

So it’s a very scary situation! Because I think they would want to keep the Union together and just enforce this authoritarianism on the so-called red states. We’ll see.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, thank you so much! We’ve got some more Superchats over on Odysee. Steve of Wessex said:

 

“Evening all. 14.”

 

Thank you so much! $5 came from Archie. And he asked Kevin MacDonald:

 

“What do you think about the refutations against jewish IQ that say the samples are biased?”

 

Kevin MacDonald: Against the idea of jewish IQ?

 

42 – Superchats – Jewish IQ

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Mark Collett: Yeah, people like Dr. David Duke say the jewish IQ thing is a lie, and they make that up to make themselves feel better. I tend to believe they are very high IQ people, and that’s how they can pull off what they pull off. I don’t think they’re idiots. What do you think when people say that the IQ thing is not true?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah, I’ve written about that. I tend to rely on Richard Lynn’s study. He has a book called The Intelligence of the Chosen People or something. And he says their mean IQ is about 111.

 

But there’s an interesting thing about, … There may be very high over representation of really high IQs among jews compared even to the mean IQ. I’m not sure of that.

 

But it’s interesting, the article we have on the FTX scandal right now, it talks about these the parents of Bankman Fried, are law Professors at Stanford. They’re very elite, very smart people. And these are the people that are running, really the influential jews.

 

And so they’re different cut.

 

But in fact, even for any given, … I made this argument in my recent article on replying to Nathan Cofnas, the guy who criticised me, which was retracted from an Israeli journal.

 

Anyway, my argument is that you take any cut-off point, like, IQ 140, there are more non-jews in America, White, non-jews in America, than there are jews at that level of IQ.

 

So you can take for any level 160 whatever.

 

But the fact is its more than IQ. It has to do with I think, networking, cooperating, promoting other jews and that sort of thing. It’s not just IQ. They’re not stupid, though. Yeah, you’re right. Absolutely right!

 

Mark Collett: I think as well, and I’ve put this out many times. It’s one of the things I actually address very differently to the way Dr. David Duke addresses this. Because I recently heard David Duke debating Dr. Edward Dutton. And the reason I heard it because it was on my channel, that’s where they wanted to do the debate!

 

And they had their chat and Dr. David Duke tried to sort of refute the jewish IQ thing. And my answer to the jewish IQ thing and sorry if you have heard this before or somebody else has said this, but I’m not sure the issue is whether they’re higher IQ than us or lower IQ. I think it’s what people do with their IQ that counts.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Absolutely!

 

Mark Collett: If you’ve got a guy who is super high IQ and they use that super high IQ to put a man on the moon, develop neurosurgery that helps people recover from some terrible car crashes and accidents, or they develop a satellite system that connects the world, there are a guy like Elon Musk who develops these electric cars. That’s a drive for positive!

 

But if you’re super high IQ and you use that high IQ to indoctrinate people, or to push pornography upon people, or to build a media empire that essentially pushes what I believe to be moral syphilis on people!

 

Or if you use your super high IQ to come up with this great Ponzi scheme where you’re selling people Bitcoin that doesn’t exist and you make billions from it, but then loads of people lose out, that’s a bad thing!

 

And I think IQ in that sense, I see it as a tool. And if you’ve got a very, very fine tool, you can do either very, very good things with your fine tool or very bad things! And on balance, obviously people know my opinion as to how jews have historically used their IQ upon host nations, which is something obviously I stand against.

 

So that’s my take anyway. And I know that wouldn’t please Dr. David Duke, but that’s my opinion.

 

43 – Superchats – Jews and Nobel Prizes

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Archie gave another $5. Thank you so much! She said:

 

“What’s your thoughts on the idea of jewish over-representation in Nobel Prizes as a virtue signaling effort to remove negative feelings and convince people that jews contribute to society. Similar to the increased visibility of LGBT, South Asians and blacks in positions of power and status?”

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah, I think Nobel Prizes are like anything else where it’s hard to know exactly what’s going on. That it’s likely that there is some collusion there promoting certain jews.

 

But, yeah, there’s no question jews are over represented in all this. The question is how much? And the jews do regard that, these Nobel Prize is something worth, … They love it when the announcements come out and they’ll say:

 

“Which ones are jews?”

 

And they worship Albert Einstein. This is the prototypical.

 

If you want to talk to somebody who’s a genius, it’s Albert Einstein. So it’s constantly the idea of jewish genius.

 

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Natty: I’m not sure if everyone is aware, he was staunchly against the First World War. When it came to the Second World War, when it was jews who were seemingly in trouble he was all for destroying Germany and setting the world up in flames.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, he’s a vile little man, Albert Einstein. Vile little man! I’ve seen those pictures of him when they’re developing the atom bomb and he’s cycling around with his tongue hanging out like an idiot, thinking it’s all fun and games. When you think about those poor families obliterated in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, absolutely despicable little demon! How you could help create a weapon that could cause that much suffering and be thinking it’s fun and games?

 

I mean, if you created something like that, you would be sort of like:

 

“Should I even be doing this?”

 

If you have the power to create something like that, you would actually be yes, I would be looking at it and thinking:

 

“Should I even be doing this?”

 

But no, he was loving every minute.

 

And something I want to add about the Nobel Peace Prize. And this is something I think about these things. There are two kinds of prizes in life. The first kind of prize is something that you win in a quantitative manner. So if myself and Nathan were to stand on a starting block and somebody was to fire a starter’s pistol and we were to run as fast as we could for 400 meters, one of us would quantitatively defeat the other. It would be absolutely, you’d be able to quantitatively say one was faster, one completed the challenge before the other. And for the record, I’m pretty sure Natty would beat me at that because it’s in top shape at the moment.

 

And that’s something that when you get a prize for, it really means something.

 

Now, on the other hand, you have prizes which are highly subjective and based totally on opinion. So if somebody said to myself and Natty, I want you both to draw a picture of the last Queen of England and me, and that he drew that picture, people may well be very split, and depending on who’s handing out the price, that would be more indicative of who won, because it’s down to taste.

 

And with things like the Nobel Peace Prize or any of the Nobel Prizes, they’re not actually apportioned on quantitative things that can be measured and can be applied fairly across a bracket. It’s just somebody’s opinion.

 

It’s the same with these film awards. For years, Martin Scorsese was the White man ignored at the Oscars. Well, I would say his films, The Goodfellas, Casino were absolute masterpieces, but he never got Oscars for those films. And it’s amazing, but that’s just somebody’s decision.

 

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So I think with things like Nobel Prizes, it’s far, far too open to abuse for it actually to be meaningful. And I’m pretty sure that lots of people, such as Obama, won the Peace Prize. Well, how he won the Peace Prize when he dropped all those bombs from drones all over the Middle East and was killing thousands of people.

 

Yet he accepted a Peace Prize. It was obscene!

 

But again, I think that was done because he was the first black president. And a lot of these things are just totemic. They’re there to make a point.

 

So, yeah, that’s my issue on that.

 

And I think we have one or two last Superchats., you know, who said:

 

“Are you and Woes mates again? Any plans to do Millenniyules? UK needs Right-wing solidarity more than ever.”

 

If he invites me on, I’ll go. If he doesn’t, I won’t lose sleep about it. I have no axe to grind with him. Me and him have spoken since. And yeah, wish him all the best in whatever he chooses to do. I have no problem with the guy at all.

 

Stan One gave 300 Odysee beans and he said:

 

“Library and Odysee have been totally shafted by (((them))) in parentheses. Here’s 300 tokens for what it’s worth.”

 

I appreciate the Odysee beans, my friend. And that about brings us to the end of the show.

 

So, Natty, as you are the last surviving guest because Aunt Sally has had problems, do you want to give your thoughts on the book then? I’ll give my thoughts on the book, then Kevin can give his final thoughts, and we’ll bring it to a close.

 

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Natty: Yeah, obviously, I highly recommend the book. This is a foundational work for anyone on the dissident Right who wants to understand why we are where we are.

 

I know I’ve said that about a few books we’ve talked about, but this is absolutely true of Culture of Critique! I fully intend to read the other two books in the trilogy. Certainly book number two was highly recommended to me when I let one of my friends know that I was reading Culture of Critique. So I’ll be reading that.

 

What a pleasure to talk to Kevin MacDonald as well. A great guy!

 

I want to read, since Sally couldn’t make it, I’m just going to read her comments here and she won’t mind. She said:

 

“Such a shame I can’t come on. I really wanted to do this book club stream more than any of the others. I think this book was the most important of all the books we’ve read, and I recommend everyone read it. It really opened my eyes and answered a lot of questions I’ve always had in my mind about what’s been going on my whole life.”

 

So apologies to Sally and we miss her being on here, but those were her thoughts on the book. Very abbreviated instead of a two hour chat.

 

But what a pleasure. Thank you for coming on, Kevin, and thanks everyone for listening.

 

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Mark Collett: Well, I’m going to give my thoughts on the book before Kevin has the final word.

 

And this is what I’ve got to say.

 

I obviously have so much love for Kevin MacDonald. I hold him in the highest regard! I always love working with him whenever I can. He’s one of the most erudite, most thoughtful, just all around greatest living nationalist! He’s a treasure to our cause. And this book is so very important. And it answers questions that I think everyone has, but anyone else would find difficult to answer.

 

I know I’ve been asked these questions before. How, why, why has this come about? And Kevin MacDonald answers those questions in this book. It’s a foundational text! And we say foundational texts about many books, but this really, really is! Possibly more so than anything else we’ve had on book club.

 

And I think the work that Dr. Kevin MacDonald has done on this book and has done for our cause is almost unrivaled! And his legacy as a man who has exposed what is happening to people of European descent at the hands of this other ethnic group is just phenomenal!

 

So I just want to say, I completely recommend this book. There are plenty of places you can get it online. I’ve got a link to where you can buy it from in the description of this video, but there’s plenty of places you can get it. Unfortunately not still Amazon.

 

But if you are in America or can directly buy it from Kevin, please do, so that he benefits from that, because he certainly does deserve to get something back from his seminal work.

 

So thank you for being with us, Kevin. If you’d like to have the final word and then we’ll close things.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Well, thank you for your kind words. I did enjoy it, brought up a lot of topics, pretty much covered everything in a very intelligent way and I appreciate the opportunity, actually. Thank you very much.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much! Thank you to everyone who listened. Thank you to Kevin, thank you to Natty, thank you to Aunt Sally, despite the fact you can get things working. I’m absolutely gutted you couldn’t. But hopefully we’ll sort that out for the next book club.

 

The next book club will be in January, because obviously it’s Christmas next month. And Christmas means we have a well-earned, break from this, because the week when we do book club kind of conflicts with the Christmas break, so don’t want to sort of clutter up Christmas too much.

 

Now, one other thing I’ll say is. Sam and Laura will be back tomorrow night for Tea Time with Sam and Laura.

 

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And I’ll be back on Wednesday for the new style Patriotic Weekly Review. And the first guest on this new Style show is going to be the one, the only, the wonderful Blair Cottrell from Australia! It’s been a while since we’ve had him on. And I’m sure many people are going to want to ask him how things are in Australia with the Covid restrictions. Because obviously many of you will know that the Covid restrictions in Australia were particularly harsh. And that’s one of the places where they are going to be potentially trialing this new digital ID system. So, very important show coming up. Hope to see you all there on Wednesday.

 

And just a final thank you to everyone, everyone who donated, everyone who watched, and of course, to Kevin and Natty. Thank you so much, guys. Have a great weekend, what’s left of it, and I’ll see you all again soon.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Thank you.

 

Natty: Cheers.

 

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Mark Collett
3 months ago
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Prussian Blue
3 months ago
a 3 minute intro. record time.

Motus Populus
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
You will never create a state for white people if you don’t name the Jews. You cannot solve the problem if you do not name the problem. That simple.

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@PaganBear
3 months ago
I think we have to stop acting like suckers, they are not that smart at all, Dr Duke broke that down well.

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@HansLanser
3 months ago
It’s not that they are smarter, its that they are hyper ethno centric, Jewishness means more to them than anything. They are consciously ethno centric, which puts them at a clear advantage at all rivals who are not.

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@Forgotten.Patriot
3 months ago
Exactly! They are only master manipulators. Thats why we call them parasites.

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IJustWannaComment
3 months ago
No book has ever done so much to change my view of the world.

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
Einstein wasn’t even a genius, he was a plagiarist.

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@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
And if they can’t control something, they want to destroy it (especially the white race)

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Yogus!
3 months ago
I feel that’s the common thread of all evil peoples. Not to take away from your point.

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@Roxy_Stellar
12 days ago
so… they envy our self-deprecative-destructive blue-eyed empathy thread or just enjoy exploiting that anyhow

JamesL
3 months ago
excellent discussion, thanks all

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Earthling Carl 1
3 months ago
40:00
– Blackpilled has a great set of streams analysing the “Americans caused the Holocaust” documentary.

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@Degenatron
3 months ago
K Mac is a masterclass! Thanks for getting him on!

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@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
Yes Home schooling is necessary

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@PaganBear
3 months ago
Yet white people keep getting expensive cable packages, have nothing but basic and if you can afford it just have phone and internet. Stop giving them so much money, don’t participate in the ratings..etc.

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King Tut
3 months ago
why the fuk r u paying for cable at all? youre paying them to socially engineer you.

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Earthling Carl 1
3 months ago
Only read it one time myself, won’t again as the endless smug quotes from (((them))) are too infuriating. Congrats to MacDonald for writing a masterpiece though.

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@mikey2363
3 months ago
In regards to the Jewish issue of flooding Western countries with lower IQ peoples whereby it might bite them in the arse in a few decades because of lack of development etc – why do you think there’s a massive push for Artificial Intelligence. That’s the key to ridding the White race forever for the Jews.

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@Nelis
3 months ago
Nobel prizes are rife with jewish nepotism

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@PaganBear
3 months ago
We also have 10’s of millions of people who worship Jews as if they were Jesus himself. This is a huge problem.

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0KT0BER
3 months ago
They used cherry picked data to fabricate the IQ disparity

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
Child care was always a jew scheme. They ripped children away from their mothers to be raised be a shabbos goy, or even a jew

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HarambeTheWhite
3 months ago
the US, UK, and Israel spy on everyone over the internet so the term “digital gulag” is actually accurate

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@PaganBear
3 months ago
We have to work toward 1850’s homesteading life but with solar for powering pumps, lights and internet. If we did this there would be a collapse in the parasites power.

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
They are human farmers, and seek to cull the difficult livestock. This is one of the reasons (there are others) that they attack the european people as they do

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tszymk77
3 months ago
jews

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Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
STOP COMPLYING

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Callaghan
3 months ago
WPWW

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@Vivec
3 months ago
Interesting stream thank you

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thoughts
3 months ago
Appreciate shows like this. These men are brave to talk and even give their thoughts publicly. Hosts love the truth.

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Archie
3 months ago
Yes, Obama was given the prize to make us feel that he did good.

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Archie
3 months ago
Prizes can be subjective like rating the value of modern art. A can of sheite has sold for $300,000.

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@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@PaganBear
The Irony of what the Churches have become is nauseating

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Goði Lane
3 months ago
They became what they were always meant to be. Institutions for the enslavement of the gentile. Polydoros of Sparta said it best…
“If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy’s religion, you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy, you are destroyed.”

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@Vivec
3 months ago
Its the only way i see, balkanisation and insulating our political system to make sure subversive elements arent injected in the area chosen.

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@Horatius
3 months ago
vast majority of whites want to be murdered by non whites and enslaved it seems. truly bizarre

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@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Can you really negotiate with a people like that?

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@Horatius
3 months ago
vast majority of whites deny they are victims at all. some sort of false delusional pride. been being victimized for decades

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thoughts
3 months ago
good point

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Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
screaming out in pain whilst striking us…

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@david_smith
3 months ago
Islam and Judaism are supremacist religions, they should never have been welcomed by any out group.

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Unconventional Wisdom
3 months ago
i basically saw the high iq myth busted. they sampled from private school and put forth their highest as if it was a random selection. they are no higher than 105 on average.

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Archie
3 months ago
@Yuno_Hu
They wont want to leave the West. China is much more tactical at getting foreigners to leave China.

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thoughts
3 months ago
Oh its hell in the work place Highly. the corporate enemy. Not being associated with the ADL agenda makes it hard to eat out, work, travel, buy gas, be with a lady ect… Happy people in countries where the white population in high do not experience this..

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@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Google Archipelago: The Digital Gulag and the Simulation of Freedom
https://tinyurl.com/uwecybhu

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Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
racism is one thing GENOCIDE is another

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@GaelicNord
3 months ago
jews have unfortunately been successful in imposing their particular definition of morality upon White people. Their definition of morality is simply defined as follows : What is good for jews, is whats morally good. Whats good for non-jews is whats immoral.
If White people had this racially centered sense of morality then we’d be in a much better place imo.
Theres nothing wrong with putting our own race first and foremost and also excluding racial strangers from the circumference / diameter of our moral compass totally.

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@GaelicNord
3 months ago
It is Not possible for the jew to live in any kind of harmony with other races because they are Literally the antithesis, antithetical to what a race of people are.
Theyre not a race, theyre all mixed race, theyve mixed with every group of people thats ever made the mistake to have hosted them over the millennia.
The jew is the anti-race.
Ergo why they hate all racially homogonous groups of people like the White European race.

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gurugeorge
3 months ago
One of the most important books written in recent decades. It crystallized and clarified thoughts and suspicions I’d been having myself up to that point, and tied in with a lot of the evolutionary biology/psychology stuff I’d been investigating just prior to reading it.
When people talk about Jewish over-representation, one common response is, “OK, but why does it matter?” This book explores why it matters.

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@JohnConnor
3 months ago
This is the problem with Nationalists, they don’t have the stomach to solve problems completely and there is only one way in nature to do that permanently.

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@PaganBear
3 months ago
o/

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@Nelis
3 months ago
@Archie.Bunker
Yes it’s the same with oscars and the music industry

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@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
the same guilt tricks don’t work with non-whites

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Callaghan
3 months ago
#WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE#

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thoughts
3 months ago
The show is bringing up tough subjects.. Good community leadership. Doing right when it hurts. Thanks PWR

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@PaganBear
3 months ago
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@W_Poe_White
3 months ago
That’s Jonathan Greenblatt’s great-great-great-grandfather Nosferatu Greenblatt looking over his shoulder to see if there were any Goyim around to see what he was about to do.

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Archie
3 months ago
Flesh eating plants are predators

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3 months ago
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ThinRedLine
3 months ago
Damn I missed this one

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@two-fifty
3 months ago
hows my bros in the white positive sphere doin? lol

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@Nelis
3 months ago
Bankman Fraud

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@PaganBear
3 months ago
It can’t be just brainwashing, I think we have so many spiteful mutants they are ripe for culling. They have no survival instinct.

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@Horatius
3 months ago
whites are the ones being victimized. whites have to stop allowing it

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@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Immigration Act of 1924
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

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@bananen
3 months ago
SBFs grandad was Jewsih Freemason, member of B’nai B’rith masonic order

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@bananen
3 months ago
The Jews and Modern Capitalism (1913) by Werner Sombart
Freemasonry and Judaism: Secret Powers Behind Revolution (1929) by Vicomte Leon De Poncins
International Jew By Henry Ford

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@bananen
3 months ago
Jews owned media in US long before WW2, Henry Ford talks about it his book.

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3 months ago
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Redpill Rundown
3 months ago
I don’t normally shill but I have a video summarizing the book here if anyone’s interested:

Though I highly recommend purchasing your own copy and supporting both Mark and Dr. MacDonald.

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King Tut
3 months ago
can listen to Kevin talk for hours, never get bored once.

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Soul of the Lost
3 months ago
Jason Canon? does anyone have a link to his stuff Dr. MacDonald is talking about? This is said at
17:00

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@HansLanser
3 months ago
Paradoxically, Jews NEED anti semitism for reasons various. First it provides a great victim narrative. Secondly, it’s a means to shut down any critique or examination of Jewish power. Third, its intended as a way to demonise non-Jews. Lastly, anti semitism ensures that Jews never truly assimilated, because had they truly assimilated, the fear was they would breed themselves out of existence, and the whole Jewish narrative, customs etc, it would have no future meaning.

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ThinRedLine
3 months ago
I think it is not just that the jews don’t trust other peoples or even of their feeling of superiority towards other groups of peoples.
I think the main reason is survival The Rabbis found out, maybe a few hundred years after the expulsion from Israel and there were scattered Jewish communities all over the Mediterranean area that those communities who had good relations with their host populations mixed into these host populations and soon disappeared and those who came in to conflict with the host population and became persecuted became more Jewish and so the Rabbis learned that in order for the Jewish people to survive they have to be in conflict with the host population at least from time to time and so the big Jews behave in such a way in order for this conflict to happen. In this way the Jews have constructed an antifragile system where if you don´t oppose them they will grow in wealth and power and if you do oppose them their ethnocentrism and sense of identity will grow. The ordinary Jew is not aware of this though and I think it could be very beneficial to us (and the Jews ) if we could make them aware of this

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@Monad
3 months ago
looks like kevin is moving to alaska? i made the move a couple years ago. it’s a terrible place full of the most humorless people i’ve met in my life.

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@Monad
3 months ago
i will watch this because i forsee no women yapping in my ear.

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@Monad
3 months ago
damn aunt sally joined. really kills the vibe. all-star guest, though.

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@HerrNordstorm
3 months ago
Thx Mark, Kevin and Natty for a awesome pod. Kevins book The Culture of Critique is a must in every nationalists bookshelf. (I have 2).

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@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
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@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Separation and Its Discontents, Dr Kevin MacDonald
https://tinyurl.com/2mtzhhw6

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3 months ago
A People That Shall Dwell Alone, Dr Kevin MacDonald
https://tinyurl.com/3ta9p5mb

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3 months ago
👉 Today’s book, The Culture of Critique, by Dr Kevin MacDonald
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@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@Nelis
“Bob Dylan” bought, I mean won the Nobel Literature Prize.

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@Vivec
3 months ago
Its never enough for them, they even had to create their own nobel prize award just for jews.

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thoughts
3 months ago
@Yuno_Hu
it sure will be less expensive

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@Yuno_Hu
3 months ago
only solution that avoids violence

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Archie
3 months ago
I know of a Jewess that worked in an international high school in Shanghai. She was the head of mathematics. She had a black b/f in Shanghai & a poster of the Black Panthers on her classroom wall. She said that IQ tests are designed by White supremacists.

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@PaganBear
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
All this is being done to us with our funding, but when you try to explain this to nationalists many of them don’t want to hear it. There is no voting our way out of this, taking the money and production away is the only hope.

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@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
It’s to program the children into the intended demographic change and ‘normalise” it

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@AlbionForever
3 months ago
it’s an ethnic imperative.

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Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
we are to be micromanaged hahaha

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@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
Nature is gross. I am so glad I am not part of it

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@mikeenochcat
3 months ago
he donated millions to republicans too

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@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
Yep

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@nistanista
2 months ago
Surprisingly naive views
around 1 hour 20 minutes from beginning (topic/question – why are Jews unwilling to forge more symbiotic relationship with Gentiles).
The supposed fear of antisemitism or Nazis/White Nationalism is just another “Shtick” (gimmick/scheme … part of the Group Evolutionary strategy).
Resentment and hostility they feel toward Europeans is primarily based on what Winston Churchill (accurately imo) referred to as “envious malevolence ” ( in his 1920 Article). A very dangerous and destructive motivation / driving force indeed.

Asadafa
3 months ago
Kevin should try selling all of his books through Antelope Hill Publishing.

@HansLanser
3 months ago
@MarkCollett
I’d like to address your v good question about Jews importing lots of Muslims to Europe, and how this also harms them. This isn’ some error on their part. Jews are prepared to sacrifice some Jews for a bigger gain in the long term. Moreover, the ultimate goal of Jews is to have ALL Jews gathered together in (an extended) Israel.
If that means having to literally terrorise all the ‘little Jews’ into doing it, so be it as far as they’re concerned.
In fact, there used to be a large number of Jews in Iraq until Mossad conceived terrorist attacks spooked them into moving to Israel. They want ALL Jews to ultimately live in a 100% Jewish ethno state, and they want that in an Israel that’ many times larger than right now.
Jewish ‘elites’ consider all land between the Nile and the Euphrates to belong to the Jews. Thats what they have ultimately earmarked as their Jewish paradise, on which all Jews would live, and Jews would control a de facto World Gov from Jerusalem.
Besides, Jews NEED anti semitism in any form, even if it means inventing it or importing it. They thrive on it. So, if some Arab and Muslim immigrants happen to target some Jews in Europe, then Jews still get to kvetch about anti semitism, then they can scoop up extra grants and funds, all to protect them.
The idea to populate Europe with non-whites didn’t start in the 60’s. It’ a centuries old plan.
They specifically want a large influx of Muslims and Arabs, and they then wish to encourage casual and normative, such that in time, the ‘new European’ will be a mongrelised race, rootless and without a clear culture.
At the same time, the move will temper the IQ of all majority white lands, ensuring that we are impaired. Jewish leaders, Rabbinical leaders etc, they absolutely hate ALL Europeans, and they will not stop until cultural genocide has been fully conducted upon Europe. They see it as their mission.
They have the motive, the means, and the will
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Natty
3 months ago
Foundational text for any person who began to learn about the machinations of ZOG around 2014-16, almost every meme, every infographic and every right wing intellectual has been educated in some way by what is written in these pages

@HansLanser
3 months ago
It’s a good book and I like KM. While it is partly an evolved strategy, it’s also very much a case of them following clear instructions set out by their scribes and philosophers, esp those in the Talmud. In it, Jews are instructed to keep many of their views
to themselves, and at least fake civility to the host people, why? Because doing so, at that time, was good for the Jews. Jewish scribes knew that if Jews openly practiced their norms in front of the gentiles, that they would be driven out. Secrecy was key as was deception. Of course, Jews being Jews, they often ended up creating antipathy anyway and would be driven out. However, the Talmud is very clear that Jews should endeavour to indulge in secrecy and fake civility, until when? Until Israel was restored and was ‘made mighty’. At that exact point, all pretence no longer applied, and Jews could then openly and brazenly engage in their practices, without fear of real retribution.

dr. rosenpenis
3 months ago
jews do not have creative intelligence. they have only language and symbolic intelligence. they produce nothing. invent nothing. they only hypersymbolize and fuck with symbols. stop saying jews are smart. they aren’t. only an oppressed people says “they are smart therefore they deserve to oppress me”. nah. jews are smart in language games, but can’t produce shit.

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@bananen
3 months ago
They invented stock market

Soul of the Lost
3 months ago
Is Dr. MacDonald not wanting to dox himself ? lol

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@AlbionForever
3 months ago
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3 months ago
It was mostly in Melbourne, not Australia

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3 months ago
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@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
o/

@dh
3 months ago
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3 months ago
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3 months ago
Thank you

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3 months ago
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3 months ago
Where do I get a hardcover copy of this book?

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
o7

@david_smith
3 months ago
high*

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@Meep
Even his refrigeration patent, it was an adaption of patents that others had submitted to the patent office he worked at. Oh how Jewish of him.

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@david_smith
3 months ago
@Carlota
If they were not IQ they wouldn’t be dangerous.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
List of Jewish Nobel laureates
https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates

@Meep
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
true

@Vivec
3 months ago
@UnconventionalWisdom
@LeatherApronClub
had a good video on that subject.

thoughts
3 months ago
Life is tough so our people just mentally hide from reality, Sad people do not value sprite of truth. Praise to brave men

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
He was a massive Zionist as well.

Archie
3 months ago
@Nelis
My point was that we nominate the Jews to get the prizes just to get society to feel good about them. It is like that horribly ugly, black man that just won Miss America.

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3 months ago
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Archie
3 months ago
Yes. Mark’s point that intelligent and powerful people send their children to learn history, politics and other fields that keep them in power b/c going into science & engineering just turns the smart child into a slave.

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
^

@david_smith
3 months ago
@Carlota
They are easier to see and don’t have high IQ compared to Jews or whites (when you are looking at high IQ, not average).

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
exactly, and then add to that replacement migration (literally modern day slave trading) how can one not conclude the jews are anything other at war with us, bar being pure. fucking. evil.

@PaganBear
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
Sadly today they are centers of multiracialism and philo-semitism.

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@PajotheCelt
Hey ! I trademarked ‘God” !

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
*worked

Unconventional Wisdom
3 months ago
it’s a focused effort.

@PaganBear
3 months ago
if you brain an average IQ person to be deceptive their whole lives they will be much better than the average person at screwing people over.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Mark Collett, Dr Edward Dutton interviews Dr David Duke

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@PaganBear
The Christian Churches work fine up until 150 years ago.

thoughts
3 months ago
I like imaginary white flighting into a better world. Education is a real mind f####

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
Yes and the subsequent degradation of economics and lifestyles neuters any easy return.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Kevin MacDonald, Sam Bankman-Fried and the FTX Collapse

Sam Bankman-Fried and the FTX Collapse: A Family Affair

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
What coincidences with the Bankman frieds !

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Richard Lynn, The Chosen People: A Study of Jewish Intelligence and Achievement
https://tinyurl.com/mr4yt7xs

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
To add to the childcare scam, they ripped mothers from the home and chained them to a desk and told them they are free

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
^

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Greg Johnson & Kevin MacDonald Discuss the Midterm Elections

Greg Johnson & Kevin MacDonald Discuss the Midterm Elections on The Political Cesspool

@PaganBear
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
We are not going to get those things back, they will never allow it, we can’t even have a fair election. Homeschool is what we have to do, there are associations.

HarambeTheWhite
3 months ago
way to torture her on her birthday

thoughts
3 months ago
Being scared and not knowing why. or no work or peace anywhere on earth

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
Acca pela

MajesticCasual
3 months ago
That was fun and brilliant they were willing to do it

@SerenaJB
3 months ago
That’s the worst version I’ve ever heard 🙂

HarambeTheWhite
3 months ago
stop aaaaa

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@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@PaganBear
I believe the ‘Education’ institutions from Academia down to child care have been ruined. Gaining back these to a sane position is the major need from my analysis.

@DienekesGhost
3 months ago
Happy Birthday!! to you!!

@Vivec
3 months ago
@PaganBear
Not to seem to pessimistic ofc just wondering what you had in mind.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Ugh

thoughts
3 months ago
pay pay and pay more.. All we want as working class white men is to just pay our bills and life in peace. We do not care who is in charge of the world or how much money they have

@PaganBear
3 months ago
@Vivec
yes but a lot less, that is the idea.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
oh god

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@Vivec
3 months ago
Its only a matter of time before they get to the rural areas and tax the living hell out of them isnt it ?

@Vivec
3 months ago
@PaganBear
You’ll still have to pay taxes though.

@PaganBear
3 months ago
@Vivec
We have no choice, if it doesn’t happen be ready for the gulag.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
They’re all for free speech until they ascend to the top and then they kick out the ladder behind them.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
vicious knids an oompa loompas never the twain shall meet

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@PaganBear
That would only work if we stop the Jew farming us and importing millions/billions of new livestock into our countries.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
even mr wonka had seperate rooms

@Vivec
3 months ago
@PaganBear
Its understood , its just not really feasible. For anyone who owns anything, you cant just stop paying (outside of some areas in the US where you can). Living in poverty and stop paying into the system would work in a way, unless you have something else in mind.

@Yuno_Hu
3 months ago
pay them to leave

@dh
3 months ago
Even if they stopped the immigration though, the birth rates would carry on the replacement

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3 months ago
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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
I should have included modern atheism in my last comment

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
Islam and Christianity are Jew created religions used to divide and conquer the goyim.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
they want us to attack them so they can have a final excuse for what they have planned

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
a lot of the Zionists support that because it encourages more Jews to move to Israel.

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Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
thats why the acceleration with white destruction

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
I saw footage of Muslim migrants in Berlin throwing up romans

Archie
3 months ago
Some lefty Jews really believe that IQ tests are false and that there is no difference between intelligence among races

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
its says that when we nearly destroy israel, their god will come and save them.

Unknown Californian
3 months ago
@MarkCollett
They are playing the LONG game. They know civilizations rise and fall. They were there when Rome fell and when the Spanish lost their empire. They know another will replace it

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@Stan1
How have they shafted LBRY/Odysee? Just asking.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
they’ve made lots of mistakes over the past few years lol

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3 months ago
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@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@PaganBear
It’s disappointing. I have tried to explain they are funding this shit

@Stan1
3 months ago
LBRY/Odyssey have been totally shafted by (((them))) but here’s 300 tokens for what it’s worth.

Archie
3 months ago
I believe that it was on a Jewish website like Tablet that has an article that askes “Are the Chinese the new Jew?” in reference to their over-representation in universities thus replacing the Jew that seems to be less ambitious these days. Jews have lost their hunger for success.

wayha
3 months ago
1B. V 60M maybe a little reason!!!!

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
adverts full of “Black man, blonde woman”

Archie
3 months ago
@MarkCollett
I hope that you caught that I used “PWR” to mean “power.” Sorry for any confusion.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Ron Unz, The Myth of American Meritocracy
https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

Archie
3 months ago
Northern latitude people compete against southern latitude people b/c we like their weather and bananas and they like our high civilizaion.

Unknown Californian
3 months ago
Or deprived to say it more nicely

Unknown Californian
3 months ago
@MarkCollett
I meant to say if they were robbed of their war chest… would White retake them

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
We’e outliers that’s for sure, and I wouldn’t have it any other way

@Nelis
3 months ago
Clear them out

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
Most people seek comfort over conflict. The people here are not most people.

HarambeTheWhite
3 months ago
name the poooo

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
We shall see, I am not optimistic as the vast vast vat majority of people are programmed by the electric Jew (TV), but yes things are getting better and why they are in a panic to control the internet.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
David Sloan Wilson (American evolutionary biologist)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sloan_Wilson

The Wandering Shrew
3 months ago
Socrates said, “Make a woman a man’s equal she then become his superior”. Same with J’s…

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
proverbs 1-11

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
It’s Bullying behaviour. And when good people start to realise and act things will (and are) change

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HarambeTheWhite
3 months ago
digital gulag

HarambeTheWhite
3 months ago
I believe it was max kaiser who coined the phrase

Archie
3 months ago
I think that what scares Jews isn’t another holocaust but the loss of power over the West that insures the preservation of Israel.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
Yeah, as master and slave, farmer and livestock, Jew and Goyim. Fuck that. and when we have these crazy ideas of fairness and freedom, yeah they don’t want livestock like that.

@PaganBear
3 months ago
and real gulags, they put anti vaxxers in camps

@Nelis
3 months ago
We’re in it right now lol

Archie
3 months ago
CNN did interviewed the comedian named Judy Gold about Chappelle’s SNL skit. She said some things that Chappelle said made her unconfortable. She didn’t say what they were but it probably is that the Jews do have the power and influence to destroy people.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
Musk standing up to Greenblatt was a real eye opener.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
firing squad a bit worrying

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3 months ago
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@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
“CoExist”

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
prison lol

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
oh dear its gonna get messy lol

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
yes when you tell them NO

@david_smith
3 months ago
Candiru vs. cleaner wrasse

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
the goyim know

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3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
indeed

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
*apt

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
World domination

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
100%

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
The tongue being removed is an apy analogy

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
It’s arguably a genetic compulsion too

Unknown Californian
3 months ago
aggressive mimicry, a form of similarity in which a predator or parasite gains an advantage by its resemblance to a third party. This model may be the prey (or host) species itself, or it may be a species that the prey does not regard as threatening.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Peaceful symbiosis? Haha :rofl:

Archie
3 months ago
Jews suppress the White collective immune system

Unknown Californian
3 months ago
Let’s not forget Aggressive Mimicry
https://www.britannica.com/science/aggressive-mimicry

@Nelis
3 months ago
The fish might have something to say about that

Unknown Californian
3 months ago
Let’s not forget Aggresive Mimicry

@david_smith
3 months ago
cleaner wrasse \

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
“When it’s Italians it’s the mafia. When it’s black it’s called a gang. But when it’s Jews, it’s called a coincidence.” ~ Dave Chappelle

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@Horatius
Yes and then scapegoated them through Hollywood propaganda.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
crypto is a test for cdc lol goys

@Horatius
3 months ago
Jews created the American Italian mafia and helped them greatly over their reign

Archie
3 months ago
@mikeenochcat
Donating to Republicans besides DemonRats is a form of “double insurance” so that he isn’t persecuted and also can influence changing government policy on crypto.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
^

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
cohencidence

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
“Just like a mafia” – a coincidence and you should never mention it.

Archie
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
True. That is because the victimhood strategy is used by people and groups that really can’t contribute without extortion and blackmale.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@MarkCollett
Bankman-Fried was the number 2 donor of the Democrat Party behind George Soros
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-team-among-top-political-donors-before-bankruptcy-11669031663161.html

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@JohanFredrickson1290
Some people are happiest when they are complaining they are suffering and a victim

Archie
3 months ago
Jewish altruism serves their own needs just like Bill Gate’s altruism.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
hobby*

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
misery seems like a hobbie

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@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
“Racism for me, but not for thee”

Archie
3 months ago
What Dr MacDonald is saying right now is the annoying propoganda I hear from the late, soft spoken Jonathan Sacks. He makes me ill to my stomach.

@Vivec
3 months ago
oppressing / getting rid of.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Separation and Its Discontents, Dr Kevin MacDonald
https://tinyurl.com/2mtzhhw6

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
whiskey and blankets, for the goy

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Tikkun olam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
No mention of the Pyramids in The ‘Bible’ ? What else is missing ?

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Tommy Robinson and Peter Mcloughlin, Mohammed’s Koran: Why Muslims Kill For Islam
https://tinyurl.com/h2cuvc84

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
Goes back to Ancient Egypt !

Archie
3 months ago
@MarkCollett
In my Odysee tip I used PWR to mean “power”

@Diogenes
3 months ago
@Archie.Bunker
just give them a bottle of whiskey and a blanket

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
jihad handbook for jews

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
=zohar

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
haddith

Archie
3 months ago
Answer: Hide his welfare cheque in his workboots.

Motus Populus
3 months ago
@WanderingTheRuins
I just thought of the metaphor but it has been used in various ways to describe Jews.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
torah

Archie
3 months ago
How do you starve a red Indian?

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
talmud

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
zohar

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Today’s book, The Culture of Critique, by Dr Kevin MacDonald
https://tinyurl.com/fzu29dps

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
noice

Scattershell
3 months ago
tax collectors

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
bacteria is the killer

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@Archie.Bunker
Thank you for the head’s up

@Yuno_Hu
3 months ago
$10.00
Are you and Woes mates again? Any plans to do Milleniyule this year? UK needs RW solidarity now more than ever methinks.

Archie
3 months ago
Bartonella, borellia and many other micro-organism parasites can suppress the hosts immune system thus allowing normally weak infections become active. The jab allows dormant parasites and viruses to become active.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
v-matt gene destruction

Motus Populus
3 months ago
Imagine I had mould spreading across my house. I invite a friend to the house to discuss possible ways to clean the house. “You need to get rid of the mould” the friend says. “Did you just blame the mould? Are you saying you want to attack all mould regardless of where it comes from? How dare you!”.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
“Let us do the thinking goy”

@david_smith
3 months ago
Toxoplasmosis and aids

Archie
3 months ago
Toxoplsma gondi, bartonella (cat scratch fever), borellia bergdorferi (Lyme Disease(, etc.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@JohanFredrickson1290
He’s the Rothchilds bitch. that’s for sure

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
king charles is of draculas bloodline apparently …..

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Classic Stonetoss comic on the “Build your own” mentality
https://stonetoss.com/comic/build-big/

@Meep
3 months ago
@MotusPopulus
100% true

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
Ask about witches too – they wear a 12 century judenhut, ugly and have hooked noses.

@Vivec
3 months ago
^

@Nelis
3 months ago
Nosferatu in the old movie is certainly a stereotypical jew

Archie
3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
I use BitSlide. It is very convenient and fast. I only use Brave to watch postings on Odysee and it is much less convenient so I don’t watch much that is posted on Odysee. A compact and fast phone app that has a good UI makes a big difference.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@Scattershell
they already did, to get rid of that Morales guy, who was anti-banksters.

@Vivec
3 months ago
They certainly look the part of the vampire

Scattershell
3 months ago
They’d be more likely to instigate some “revolution”.
@AlbionForever

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@Carlota
yeah, his tirade on white women was bizarre. all of that vitriol against half of our people, yet he goes mad over people “naming them”. total wrongun.

@PaganBear
3 months ago
@Archie.Bunker
Considering the situation we are in I would rather have Kanye.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
no one elected anyone , they were put in place by the WEF

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
“Start your own bank” – Worked out well for Gaddafi

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
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@AlbionForever
3 months ago
for it’s lithium reserves?

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
Will ZOG invade Bolivia?

0KT0BER
3 months ago
Starlink buying him some breathing room perhaps

Archie
3 months ago
@PaganBear
Electing inexperienced, low IQ celebraties is a major embarrassment for the West. Electing a celerity has happened in the Philippines. A celebrity in Russia also is becoming a popular, political face.

Scattershell
3 months ago
Musk should tweet the story of Leo Frank

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
create the problem, then solve the problem hahaha red star blue star

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
App store blockading

@Diogenes
3 months ago
ye definitely not all there as the great Mr. McDonald has pointed, like the reference to poor impulse control too. Mr. McDonald is one of the tallest trees in our forest.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
The ADL threatened Elon publicly on twitter, I couldn’t believe it.
Nice business you have there
Be a real shame if it were to go bankrupt

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
haha, donating to ADL and SPLC? :rofl:

Motus Populus
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
People like Fuentes and Jason Kohne are cut from the same cloth. They are grifters who complain about potential rivals whenever they think their cult-like status is threatened which tends to be good faith anti-semitic political organisations that actually want to create a NS state.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
They complain about Musk, but still drive his cars LMAO

@PaganBear
3 months ago
If Kanye won we would be close to becoming just like Idiocracy.
More

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
I already gave a donation but thank You

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
adl dont need twitter pmsfl they got fbi and most goverments lol silly goys

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
The left want to protest outside Tesla car showrooms now lmao

Archie
3 months ago
Musk will eventually reinstate Alex Jones. Musk just has too much on his hands right now.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Anti-Defamation League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League
Southern Poverty Law Center
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
I was referring to bringing along an uninvited guest to Mara Lago but yes
@Archie.Bunker

Archie
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
Social etiquette was changed by anonymity on the Internet. Even before the Internet the left did like to poop in their own bed and get violent.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
twitter release valve sponsored by who i wonder

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
Mark Potok at the SPLC has a chart counting down the days until whites are a minority.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
The ADL hates us all, couldn’t believe it when they attacks someone like myself, a mere heckler in the cheap seats

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
Nice lol

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
Got retweeted by Kevin twice back in the day, was an honour.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@MotusPopulus
fascinating how he seems to hold more criticism for white women then Js, isn’t it?

Archie
3 months ago
Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro met with Netanyahu. The left (and some on the right) hate Netanyahu. Nobody will vote for Schapiro now.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Louis Farrakhan (U.S. Nation of Islam)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan

@Yuno_Hu
3 months ago
NF > DJT

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
Social etiquette isn’t what it used to be

Motus Populus
3 months ago
Nick Fuentes is a bad actor, an incel who praises rap music and is an anti-social element. Avoid.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
Neither kanye or west spoke of Jews running the salve trade, I have speculations as to why that is…..

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@0KT0BER
I should expect no less

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
^^^^

0KT0BER
3 months ago
Theyre going to plough ahead no matter the damage Reed

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
nope

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Have we passed Peak Jew? Or the period of peak Jewish power?

@Yuno_Hu
3 months ago
cant JO for 8rs at a stretch

@Yuno_Hu
3 months ago
gaming by far

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
bankmans mr’s looks greasier than a bag of eels in baby oil…

Archie
3 months ago
@PaganBear
What takes up more energy: porn consumption or on-line gaming?

Motus Populus
3 months ago
@Carlota
If he wanted to simply “save his channel” or “avoid being fired from his job” he did not need to embark on a 20-minute rant attacking somebody for asking him about Jewish topic avoidance. He’s a bad actor. Hail NJP and hail PA.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Today’s book, The Culture of Critique, by Dr Kevin MacDonald
https://tinyurl.com/fzu29dps

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
If only they would clamp down on the banks…

@PaganBear
3 months ago
I hate how they attack how much power crypto mining takes when gaming is like 15 times as much or more.

Archie
3 months ago
I saw an interview of Bankman and his girlfriend. They both were very ignorant, incompetent and in way over their head. They are low, human capital.

@Vivec
3 months ago
So he could steal money without alerting the investors.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
sam the one man reset

@Vivec
3 months ago
He also built in a backdoor in his system to siphon money out of the main company. It was all planned from the start.

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
aah its an l lol

@Merk
3 months ago
test/

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3 months ago
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@Merk
3 months ago
test

Non Generic Nationalist
3 months ago
109 over 1030 times carlotta

Motus Populus
3 months ago
Conte, for his part, spent most of that time trying to hold back laughter at Jason’s Dunning-Kruger.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Bankman-Fried’s cypto adventure is called the FTX exchange

Link Roland
3 months ago
The bankman has been fried.

Motus Populus
3 months ago
@Carlota
The last vitriol I saw was his stream with Greg Conte in-which he spent the entire segment on Pelosi’s visit to China whining about white women with utterly irrelevant non-sequiturs.

Archie
3 months ago
Bankman-Fried obviously is benefiting from nepotism. His donations to the Republicans and DemonRats is a form of “double insurance.”

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Sam Bankman-Fried
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Bankman-Fried

@PaganBear
3 months ago
@WanderingTheRuins
They need people to fix those robots, Chinese infrastructure is garbage and their country is a shithole..india too. Imagine a world wide china/India? What a hole, they won’t pay for blacks either.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
👉 Kevin MacDonald’s latest book, Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition
https://tinyurl.com/yj3ewc7a

@PaganBear
3 months ago
Without white people Jews will be in serious trouble in a brown world. Most of the world will be third world and starving.

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3 months ago
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3 months ago
@Archie.Bunker
My pleasure.

Archie
3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
Thanks for the Burns shockumentary propaganda review. I’ve been meaning to watch the shockumentary. I still have not watched Shindler’s List and really don’t want to.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
haha, fully weaponised autism

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
Very good Point Natty

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
the only thing still being checked at the US borders is your vaxx status it seems.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Alejandro Mayorkas, United States Secretary of Homeland Security
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Mayorkas

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
we are no longer a nation of laws

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
Yeah his autism is worse than mine

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@Chuck_Sneedly
Exactly, well put.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
Black Pilled did a 4-part series! Lol

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
just like BLM is

Archie
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
don’t forget that the surrounding weather climate & surrounding nations and geography also effect genetics and culture. It really sucks being landlocked & surrounded by nations of arseholes.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
Devon does some bloody good work.

@Carlota
3 months ago
Motus Populus So many times… recently on PWR but the one you can easily find is his “review” of Meloni’s election victory. He doesn’t miss a chance to denigrate white women while never ever criticize the people who really harm us…

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Black Pilled’s review of Ken Burns documentary U.S. and the Holocaust

Nordic Warrior
3 months ago
lol

@Vivec
3 months ago
lol

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
haha

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
“back when I rapped in high school…”

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
“tactical whiteness”

Archie
3 months ago
Shape shifting

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
Assimulate? What are they the fucking borg? Furthermore, such a concept is nonsense. Genetics defines culture, behaviour etc.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
They consider assimilation a personal affront.

Archie
3 months ago
Canada’s immigration policy refused to admit the MS St. Louis, a German ocean liner carrying refugees. Early in 1939 an unidentified immigration agent was asked how many Jews would be allowed in Canada after the war. He replied, “None is too many”.

Motus Populus
3 months ago
@Carlota
Could you refer me to one of the videos/streams in-which Jason attacks white women? I want something to directly reference and I am also morbidly curious. I hate these creepy incel types.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@MotusPopulus
Good evening

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
The Jewish sense of entitlement is quite remarkable.

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
ugh, the biggest boomer shabbos goy ever, Ken Burns

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Ken Burns film, The U.S. and the Holocaust
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20863280/?ref_=nm_flmg_t_1_prd

Motus Populus
3 months ago
Good evening all.

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
another great eye opening book on the JQ is EMJ’s The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and Its Impact on World History

Archie
3 months ago
@Chuck_Sneedly
they hate and fear loosing control over us for many reasons: one is needing the West to protect Isreal.

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
Yes the Humanities have been corrupted.

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3 months ago
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Archie
3 months ago
@Chuck_Sneedly
Sven Longshank’s recent interview of Steve Laws was interesting because Laws said that the police and courts no longer harass him and that MSM now consults with him to verify information about illegal aliens.

@Stan1
3 months ago
If you read the Old Testament, they do feature a fair bit.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
the Boasian model got forced through because his co-ethnics dominated academia.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Two Hundred Years Together
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Hundred_Years_Together

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
“anthropology” is taboo and enforced at the same time

Archie
3 months ago
How much Jewish power is caused by us putting them into positions of power to prove that we don’t discriminate?

@Penswin84
3 months ago
nice shot of Kevin’s hands

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
Oh lol, I kept thinking you may have been refering to baked alaska for some reason.

@Vivec
3 months ago
6m again, they do love their numbers

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
jews are pot stirrers. they cannot leave anything alone. they must meddle and subvert and eff up everything Whites stand for or create

@natehill2020
3 months ago
just joined. why is kmac filming his desk?

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
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@Vivec
3 months ago
Ungrateful muts

Motus Populus
3 months ago
Jews killed Huey Long.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
For certain Jews, the phrase “When in Rome” is not something they choose to follow

@Stan1
3 months ago
@Chuck_Sneedly
yes, I get that sense to.

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
the America First movement was hugely popular in the 1930s up until the day after the Pearl Harbor false flag. the FBI raided the America First offices on 12-8-41 and toòk their mailing lists

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Today’s book, The Culture of Critique, by Dr Kevin MacDonald
https://tinyurl.com/fzu29dps

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
The chapter on Boasian anthropology is a real eye opener. it laid the grounds for mass immigration, but also modern civic nationalism.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
:thumbs_up:

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
Thanks so much!! I really appreciate it. 🙂👍🏻

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
It is printed in blue on the note pad in camera shot

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@0KT0BER
Good evening

Scattershell
3 months ago
\o

0KT0BER
3 months ago
evening all

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
nah, McNabb is a good egg. working as an ambulance worker is VERY different from being involved in law enforcement.

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3 months ago
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Archie
3 months ago
$5.00
What’s your thoughts on the idea of Jewish over-representation in Nobel Prizes as a virtue signaling effort to remove negative feelings & convince ppl that Jews contribute to society similar to the increased visibility of the LGBT, South Asians (Rishi Sunak) & blacks in positions of PWR & status?

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
Sorry I don’t get the reference “alaska”

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
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@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
The article is on Unz as well

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
Oh, Alex McNabb? maybe but Idk. i thought Jason was one too. but cop seems more likely

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Andrew Joyce, Bad Medicine: The Sickening Truth About Britain’s Foreign ‘Doctors’
https://www.unz.com/article/bad-medicine-the-sickening-truth-about-britains-foreign-doctors/?highlight=medical+malpractice

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
“Alaska” looks good for me

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
here’s part 1

Bad Medicine I: The Sickening Truth About Britain’s Foreign ‘Doctors’

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
Indeed and I do not wish to deny the possibility. Unfortunately I tend to stick to the facts we know.

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
I’d like to read that series by Joyce. Where can I find it?

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
EMT? as in an ambulance worker? I think you’re getting confused with that bloke from TDS.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
And we’ve just hit record migration levels in the UK…

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
He seems like a cop. i heard he was an EMT. Cop makes sense bc he was at J6 in DC and never got in any trouble. seems fed-ish

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
sure, but between the high salary, and the constant attacks on real, on the ground nationalists like the NJP and PF, it’s makes you wonder…

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
That’s speculation. Occam’s razor, a Prison Master is a management role, therefore receives management pay.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
another good shout, Joyce’s article on medical malpractice (it’s a series)

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
A fabulous podcast for us is also Tim Kelly’s Our Interesting Times and Powers & Principalities

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
or undercover copper, divisionary agent, who knows… that’s a very high salary…

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
the link for the book says it’s unavailable in the USA 🙁

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
Occidental Observer is THE best pro-White website, in terms of research, hands down.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
Prison master.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Portnoy’s Complaint, by Philip Roth
(book)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portnoy%27s_Complaint
(film)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069112/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

Zogberg
3 months ago
Exactly Carlota. He’s toxic.

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
Right that’s what turned me off. plus all the grifting and the marathon live streams. also his pretentious habit of always trying to use obscure vocabulary. it was cringe

Scattershell
3 months ago
Pushed out, you say? Well, let the re-pushing commence.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@Carlota
there’s also the stuff about him being a cop with a $70-80K salary…

Archie
3 months ago
$5.00
What do you think about the refutations against Jewish IQ that say the samples are biased?

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@dinolegovich1964
haha, pretty much

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
:ok_hand:

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
“Intellectuals” can mean Neurosis Pox Carriers ?
@ReedJohnson

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
yes, legend.

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
all of the going free stuff become incredibly televangelist-like from 2020 onwards, and he then started attacking other nationalists. wrongun.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
New York Intellectuals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Intellectuals

Scattershell
3 months ago
One day, Kevin MacDonald will have schools named after him. Statues will be in order.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Andrew Joyce, The SS Empire Windrush: The Jewish Origins of Multicultural Britain

The SS Empire Windrush: The Jewish Origins of Multicultural Britain

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
@AlbionForever
Interesting. I’m not familiar with that. i stopped following him over a year ago

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@ReedJohnson
get the link for Andrew Joyce’s article on the Windrush, if you can.

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
Is Noticing considered an ‘extreme’ sport ?

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Today’s book, The Culture of Critique, by Dr Kevin MacDonald
https://tinyurl.com/fzu29dps

Scattershell
3 months ago
All of a sudden, the air seems a lot fresher over here at PWR. Finally. \o

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
to be honest, it was the self-help cult stuff that I most took issue with.

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
anyway, enough on that topic

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3 months ago
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Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
imagine ranting about anti-whites and their policies and not admitting who’s behind it 🙄😅

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
I first “read” (listened to the audiobook) of Culture of Critique in 2018.

@mikeenochcat
3 months ago
learned this stuff years ago. nice to have a refresher

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
it’s just an attack on whites

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
2006? bloody hell, you’ve been on the ball a long time…

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
Lol exactly. no wonder his Yt channel is still going strong

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
The Frankfurt School were “Freudo-Marxists,” combining Freudian psychology with Marxism

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
yeah, he went on a huge rant slandering huge numbers of nationalists. but I think people were becoming disillusioned with him long before that.

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Frankfurt School
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
@jd81
Wow, weird. That’s not sus at all… 😆

@AlbionForever
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
yes, he has left PWR

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Diversity is basic divide and conquer strategy against the white majority.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 months ago
The topic of this book wouldn’t have suited his style of content anyway

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
Okay, thank you. I think that was a good, smart move.

@jd81
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
yes, he had a giant explosive meltdown about people talking about jews and had to leave

Nordic Warrior
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
YES

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
@VerukAssault
Correct. Wednesday on PWR was his final show.

Veruka Sault’s Goyishe Kopf
3 months ago
i heard NWG is no longer a “regular contributor.” is this true?

@jd81
3 months ago
I love this is the first show after Köhens removal. He is somewhere seething behind that reptilian, Mama JF kidnapping smile.

Nordic Warrior
3 months ago
Evening to all \o

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
Franz Boas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Boas

Steven’s War
3 months ago
“Culture of Critique book review with regular contributor No White Guilt” Something you would never see lol

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
A People That Shall Dwell Alone, Dr Kevin MacDonald
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/182135.A_People_That_Shall_Dwell_Alone?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=wKsX701Hya&rank=5

@dh
3 months ago
alright everyonee

SteveOfWessex
3 months ago
0.1
Evening all 14 o/

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3 months ago
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Link Roland
3 months ago
Does Kevin know we can’t see him, lol?

@SerenaJB
3 months ago
Has Dr MacDonald’s camera slipped?

Chief Moody
3 months ago
Evening troops

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3 months ago
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3 months ago
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Anglo-Saxon Celtic Volk Island
3 months ago
Purchased hardcopy from Chapters back in 2017. It’s a 10/10.

@mikeenochcat
3 months ago
why is this book banned?

Rill
3 months ago
o/

@ReedJohnson
3 months ago
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@Stan1
3 months ago
Kevin MacDonald is a great man

@dinolegovich1964
3 months ago
6.02am Sydney Australia. Good Morning All.

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3 months ago
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Hefeweizen
3 months ago
o7

Digital Dagda
3 months ago
Kanye’s fave book after the Bible

@Stan1
3 months ago
Good Evening all

SPLASH
3 months ago
Mark is about to go Death Con 3 on Jewish people

Digital Dagda
3 months ago
Hello all. The Culture of Critique ay? this will be an interesting one…

@WhiteLightKnight
3 months ago
Good evening everyone.

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3 months ago
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[The Occidental Observer (TOO) founder and scholar Dr Kevin MacDonald on the “jewish problem/question“, has a discussion with Red Ice TV’s Henrik Palmgren, on MacDonald’s ongoing debate saga with Cofnas and his rebuttal of MacDonald’s book, “The Culture of Critique”; and how Organized jewry has taken control of the West and is subverting it for its own interests. Later, the Ukraine-Russia War is discussed and who benefits.

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Kevin MacDonald from The Occidental Observer joins Henrik to discuss his latest paper “The Default Hypothesis Fails to Explain Jewish Influence.” The paper was first published in the Israeli-based academic journal “Philosophia” and was heavily demonized and attacked for being ‘anti-semitic.’ Despite the slander the paper seeks to address the very real and provable role of Jewish activism in regards to the transformative changes that have occurred in the West in recent decades. Later in the show we discuss the deeper implications of the war in Ukraine and who really benefits from it. We discuss Putin, Zelensky, NATO, Western corruption and ask how much influence the oligarchs have in Russia and in Ukraine.

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[00:00]

 

Henrik Palmgren: Welcome ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for tuning into Red Ice TV. I’m Henrik. Always a pleasure seeing you. Thank you for spending some of your time with us today.

 

Our guest today is Kevin MacDonald. We are going to talk about, well at least initially, about a recent paper that was published back in January, actually. But it was by an Israeli-based academic journal called Philosophia, if I pronounce that correct. And the title of the paper was The Default Hypothesis Fails to Explain jewish Influence.

 

And, of course, if you’re not familiar with Kevin’s work. I think most of you are. But if you’re not, he’s behind The Occidental Observer, author of “Culture of Critique”, and many other titles as well.

 

Kevin. Welcome back to the show. Good to see you.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Hey. It’s great to be here Henrik.

 

 

Henrik Palmgren: Always a pleasure Kevin. Thank you for taking some time. So let’s begin with this then. We talked about this offline a little bit. And just the kind of absurd nature to this. And you know this as well as anybody, when it comes to this topic, that the problem is to actually manage to address something both in a serious, but also like in an academic way that people take seriously.

 

Because otherwise it just goes down the name calling route. It goes off into tangents which is irrelevant to the academic study that you’ve made of this topic. And, of course, it is taboo, right? We recognize that. And that is for a specific reason.

 

But let me begin with this Kevin. Let me read the abstract to the paper here real quick:

 

“The role of jewish activism in the transformative changes that have occurred in the West in recent decades continue to be controversial. Here I respond to several issues putatively related to jewish influence, particularly the default hypothesis, the jewish IQ and urban residency explained jewish influence and the role of the jewish community in enacting the 1965 immigration law in the United States. Other issues include jewish ethnocentrism, and intermarriage, and whether diaspora jews are hypocritical in their attitudes on immigration to Israel versus the United States.”

 

And it continues:

 

“The post-World War II era saw the emergence of a new, substantially jewish, elite in America that exerted influence on a wide range of issues that formed a virtual consensus among jewish activists and the organized jewish community, including immigration, civil rights, and the secularization of American culture. Jewish activism in the pro-immigration movement involved intellectual movements, denying the importance of race in human affairs, establishing staffing and funding anti-restrictionist organizations, recruiting prominent non-jews to anti-restrictionist organizations, rejecting the ethnic status quo as a goal, because of fear of a relatively homogeneous White majority and leadership in Congress and the executive branch.”

 

So take us through this a little bit Kevin here. The paper came about, of course, as a reply to Cofnas, right? I know you guys have been going back and forth on Twitter. And there’s been debates there.

 

But he published a paper called The Anti-jewish Narrative. And then you did this as a reply to that. And it did end up published, as I said, by this Israeli-based academic journal, Philosophia.

 

So tell us how that came about and do you know, why they accepted it, at least at first, righ? And then it was some back and forth.

 

[Added Image] Nanthan Cofnas.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah, Cofnas’ paper came out in like about a year ago. Maybe a little more than a year ago. And yeah my first thought was, … Because the first time this happened, when he published an article in 2018. And I made these long replies. But I couldn’t get them published anywhere. The journal that published his article wouldn’t consider any reply for me. He had an article in Colette saying the same stuff. This was in 2018. And again they wouldn’t accept a reply from me. There was another one like that.

 

[Added images] See: Luke Ford with MacDonald Vs Cofnas On Culture Of Critique – Mar 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

 

But this time I just decided. Well, I’ll just ask. And so I sent an email to Philosophia, or however you pronounce it. And they said:

 

“Okay, yeah. Submit a reply.”

 

So I worked on this thing have and it went through two rounds of review. And it’s an academic paper. And the common thing for academic papers to send them out to the so-called peer review, or they send them out to other professors and they give their opinions on it. And it was nice. So I went through that. They had some criticisms. And I answered them.

 

And lo and behold, the editor accepted it. And so then it got published on January 1st, of this year.

 

And immediately there was a big controversy that came out. And they were going after the editor saying:

 

“How could anybody ever publish this thing?”

 

And they said they went crazy about it. And so right now on the website there’s this sort of warning label saying that:

 

“This paper has gotten very controversial. And so we’re going to send it out for further review.”

 

So they did send that out. And I got the reviews about two weeks ago. And they were extremely hostile! [laughter] All three of them. There were three reviews.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Big surprise, eh?

 

Kevin MacDonald: And they gave me one week to reply. And I begged for one more week. So I get a little time on this. And so I sent in my reply last week, about a week ago. And I haven’t heard back from them on that.

 

But they were extremely hostile. I mean, just calling me all kinds of names. And I didn’t think they have substantive criticism.

 

I mean, the problem with the second round of reviews was they basically didn’t have any substantive objections. What they would do is simply rephrase my ideas in a very invidious, you know, negative, crazy sounding, way:

 

“A conspiracy theory!”

 

You know.

 

[6:10]

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah, I saw how they rephrased it. Like:

 

“This is what Kevin means, or what he talks about.”

 

Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: And so that, I don’t know. We’ll see what they do with it.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: But the jury is out on that.

 

But anyway, they have the paper itself.

 

Cofnas has this idea that IQ jews are smarter than the average. And so you expect them to be more common among intellectuals. And that explains why jews are so influential.

 

And I deny that. First of all, as I say there, that if you look at the activism in, … The main issue really, in the paper, is the 1965 immigration law showing, … Because that’s the only issue that really would, you know, defeat “The Culture of Critique”. It would really be a problem for me if they could get over that.

 

But the other thing is just looking at IQ, isn’t enough, because jews are smart. So I have a little section on it, beginning, … Where is it? Yeah, it’s like the section, the first section I guess, where I talk about the default hypothesis. And point out that jewish IQ is simply not enough. That for any level of IQ there are going to be more White non-jews than jews. So you take 120. Even though they’re more jews percentage-wise at that, jews are only two and a half, three percent of the population. So for any given level of IQ, there’re going to be more White people at that level of IQ. Or you take 130, 140, whatever it is. And there’re going to be more White people at that level.

 

So you can’t explain jewish influences by simply saying the jews are smart. Because they’re not really. There’re more White European Americans who have equally high IQ for any level you want to take, for IQ. So that just doesn’t explain it.

 

And yeah, I’ve got another other points there that oftentimes that, … This really angered a lot of the reviewers. Especially in the second round there. That I would say that these jewish movements will recruit non-jews as a sort of “window dressing”. I used the term “window dressing” actually in “Cultural of Critique”, in Chapter Three. And I had specific examples of that.

 

And I was actually an example of that back when I was a student at a big anti-war rally. I was on the Left. I knew all these jewish guys and roommates in the whole thing. And they asked me to give a talk on how this guy from a small town in Wisconsin came to be involved in the anti-war movement. And I was there to be the sort of the “goy” [Henrik laughs] who had his head screwed on, right? Had become a Leftist. So anyway, …

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah, because usually I hear this Kevin, that it’s like:

 

“Well, if jews were influential and stuff, they would be the President.”

 

Or kind of topical things like that.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah.

 

Henrik Palmgren: But as an example you just break down, because in our day and age we’re super obsessed, not us, but like the culture in general, unfortunately, about percentages. And like, how many people are represented based on the numbers and stuff like that. I mean, now we’re getting in overdrive, because we’re living in an anti-White age.

 

So, for example, despite the fact that blacks are only about twelve percent of the US population, in TV media, advertisements, and stuff, they’re like way over a percentage right.

 

But look at something like Biden’s cabinet, for example. Jews are severely over-represented in Biden’s cabinet. One percent of the population, but about fifty percent of the cabinet! I think one or two have quit. But there’s some new ones that come coming and stuff right.

 

Like okay, well why is there such an over-representation then, if everything is supposed to be according to how the number parses out, the percentages [chuckling]. How do you explain, just because you don’t have a President doesn’t mean you don’t have influential and powerful people in positions of power that can advocate. Whether that be for themselves as a group, or whether there’s for a specific, you know, political objective.

 

Kevin MacDonald: That’s right. Yeah. The fact is the jews are wildly over-represented in pretty much any position of real power in this country.

 

If you look at the media, massive over-representation!

 

You look at the academic world. I have another paper on that, which I actually reference in this paper. And what I argue there is that jews are, especially in the 1960s, came to the fore in the academic world. And they were much to the Left of the average professor at that time. But that’s exactly the time with the rise of the jews in the academic world. Especially in the most elite colleges, like the Ivy League universities. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, all of them.

 

The academic world’s a top-down institution. The professors at Harvard had much more influence than Professors down the line. In fact, the Professors at Harvard and other Ivy League schools, they train graduate students in these other areas. Their Phd students go to Berkeley, or University of Wisconsin, or University of Michigan, or something like that. And then at the University of Wisconsin, those graduate students go down to the lower level. The Wisconsin State University, or California State, or whatever. And so it go trickles down like that.

 

And so academic schools are very hierarchical. And so you when you take over the top level you sort of got it under control!

 

And, of course, during the 1960 was a time when you established all these ethnic studies departments. When sociology became, it was liberal. But then it became radical! And it started being really influenced by Marx.

 

I was in philosophy, you could see that the transition at the time. I was an undergraduate in philosophy. And I went to graduate school in philosophy. And I actually talked about, … Well I talked about that in an article. I wrote that you could see the transformation of the department. That almost all the hires, the young professors that were hired, were jews. And the chairman of the department was jewish.

 

It was really an interesting sociological thing. And then I’ll just never forget watching one of these older, you know, non-jewish guys who just retired. He’s at the medical center, and probably not in good health and everything. And I just sort of felt sorry. But what they did was like the changing of the guard.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Right. Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: And now you had these young jews. And they were all on the Left. And they were radical! And they came from the best institutions. Just like I was saying. If you’re a Oxford Phd, you go to University of Wisconsin, you could be a professor. So Harvard and that kind of thing.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah, exactly. So if you can summarize for us how does that work. What happened there? [chuckling] If you can you boil that down for newcomers to your work and stuff like that. I guess get to the essence both of your paper, of course, but also the main study that you’ve done over the years. So, how do we explain it Kevin?

 

[14:01]

 

Kevin MacDonald: How do you explain, sorry?

 

Henrik Palmgren: Basically how do we explain that so many jews ended up in the position that they did? It’s obviously down to the thing of ethnic interest, right? That they have a group interest here, which is about advancing their own group, and their own interest of the group.

 

Kevin MacDonald: That’s right. I mean, and the whole thesis of “Culture of Critique” is that IQ is important. And they are smarter on average. But only on average. And again, if you look at the numbers, there’re more, far more non-jews than jews. And an IQ, say about over 140, I came up like seven to one. So you can’t explain this by IQ. But you can certainly start to explain it with ethnic networking.

 

And what that means is that you promote other jews. And you cite them. You view them as leaders, and gurus! So one of my ideas in “A Culture of Critique” is what I call the “guru phenomena”. Where you have a guru like Freud, or Franz Boaz, or Horkheimer, or the Frankfurt School. These people were central figures that were looked up to and idolized. Trotsky’s a good example.

 

And they were then seen as by other jewish intellectuals, or political activists as, they would sort of gather around and soak up his wisdom. And so there was all this mutual reinforcement, mutual ethnic networking, mutual patting on the back. [chuckling]

 

Henrik Palmgren: Right. Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: And initial hiring! So you could see that in Wisconsin. Once the jews got in they started hiring their own people. And pretty soon the whole department’s transformed. And that is sort of written large is what happened I think to the American academic establishment.

 

But then when it comes to media, it’s a little different. Because there, so much of it involves ownership. But even in the 1930s jews had a very disproportionate ownership of media. The New York Times, NBC Broadcasting. And CBS then became jewish. And all the big networks. So the ABC.

 

So that by the 1950s – I mentioned this in the paper – by the 1950s, all the television networks when I grew up were three networks exactly. We didn’t have cable, or any stuff. All three were owned by jews!

 

And there was a big push after World War II by Frankfurt School people. There’s a great paper by Andrew Joyce about this. I mean, something I overlooked pretty much, but he got into how these jewish activists that were associated with the Frankfurt School. You definitely recognize their names. But what they got into, which was really influencing the media! And the basic message was:

 

“Race does not exist.”

 

It was the whole Boasian anthropology, that race does not exist. That the worst thing in the world is White people, who are ethnocentric. And if you are ethnocentric it’s a sign of some kind of pathology. You had bad parent-child relationships. You are inadequate personality wise. You’re envious of other people. They’re all kinds of explanations that these people came up with. And they’re all nonsense! They’re not based on any kind of data, really. But they satisfy jewish interests.

 

And the entire jewish community was much to the Left. And even, whatever occupation, jewish businessmen tend not to be as radical as jewish sociology Professors, or something. [chuckling] But they are to the Left of non-jewish business people.

 

And there’s a big push now for your sort of social responsibility in business. And these people like the guy, I guess named Larry Fink, from Blackstone, …

 

Henrik Palmgren: Blackrock. Yeah, Blackrock.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah, and Mark Benioff, Salesforce. They’re like big push for social responsibility in business. And so the the fact is now, … I mean, when I was growing up businesses tended to be conservative, to the Right of the people as a whole. But business has really been another area that’s been taken over by the Left. And so your big corporations, Coca-Cola, all those, all sorts of big internet companies, social media, all on the Left.

 

Walt Disney. When I was growing up was run by Walt Disney. And he was very conservative. He was probably an anti-semite. [Henrik laughs] Because the jews tried to take away his company many times.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Right. Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: But after he died, guess what? They ended up with it. And it’s been run by jews for a long time. And it’s very liberal. And now you look at the movies and stuff that Disney puts out. They have some for children and some for adults and all that. But even the movies, the cartoons, directed at children are very much on the Left, when it comes to race, and White privilege, and centering black people and all that kind of stuff.

 

So yeah, our world’s been transformed. And we have to understand that. And what really gets me is like someone like Cofnas comes along and:

 

“Oh! It’s always like jews!”

 

And that sort of explains it. I heard other people say:

 

“Oh, it’s modernism!”

 

Oh yeah! Right! I mean, the world’s been into a modernist state where we have industrial cars, pretty advanced technology, even by say 1940, when you had fascism in Europe. And you had a very different culture in America, very different attitudes.

 

You have to remember America did pass the 1924 Immigration Law, that was very much biased towards northwestern Europe. Was supposed to reflect the population, the percentage of the population as they existed in 1921, and then went down to 1890. So when you think about the population of the United States in 1890, it was overwhelmingly northern European!

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: They did not want, you know, they certainly, … There was some concern about Italian immigrants. Because they were different. They tended to come from the south of Italy. And that’s where you see the Mafia, and all this sort of familism that really is not good. And it’s very different from northern Europe. That’s a big thesis in my book on Western family structure and everything.

 

[21:18]

 

But the big problem really was Eastern European jews. They came from Poland, and other areas in Eastern Europe. And they were radicals! They were either especially, you know, Marxists.

 

When the Soviet Union was established in 1917, they were entirely on board! I mean, almost the entire American jewish community was entirely on board with the Bolshevik revolution. And it’s no surprise that the atrocities are horrible! The mass murders, and torture, and everything else that happened in the first decades of the Soviet Union, was completely covered up in the American media. These people had never heard about it. It was covered up. And the far Left continued with the jewish community.

 

If you look at the 1950s, … You know, I grew up in the 1950s. [chuckling] And you think of it as this sort of golden age. And it sort of was for me growing up. Because it was really nice, peaceful it seemed.

 

But under the surface there was this massive cultural battle going on! And Joe McCarthy famously holding these hearings in Washington. He was a Senator from Wisconsin, 20 miles down the road from where I lived. And he had these hearings to expose the communists in the State Department, and other areas of government. And a high percentage of the people he brought before his committee were jews! And the American jewish community was very uptight about it, because they were so overrepresented.

 

And so at that time the American jewish community was all in favor of free speech. Well things have changed since then. And now the American jewish community is entirely on the board with censorship. Anything they don’t like. Which means anything like the sorts of things that we would love.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah, it’s completely changed the attitudes in the environment. And again it was just free speech and all. It was just used as long as they could take control and dominate! Then it’s like:

 

“Ah! Democracy is not so great anymore! We have to do all these things!”

 

Kevin MacDonald: Exactly! , you know, they have got no principles here!

 

Henrik Palmgren: No!

 

Kevin MacDonald: It’s just jewish interests!

 

Henrik Palmgren: It’s because it’s about winning! It’s not about being principled!

 

Kevin MacDonald: It’s about their interest and nothing more! And people don’t get that! I think a lot of White people really are principled. And you see these conservatives, they’re principled to a fault.

 

Henrik Palmgren: To a fault, yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: They have principles for democracy, freedom, for you all these things that they mouth all the time. And they don’t seem to care about the consequences in the real world! Like immigration! They don’t seem to care, or be aware that this is going to submerge the Republican Party.

 

So there could be no hope for real conservatism in the future, anything like it was 50 years ago, with this immigration. But they don’t care! They just like the principle. Or else it’s just profits.

 

But yeah, these jewish organizations have no principles. And it’s really, if you look at jewish ethics, it’s the same sort of thing. It’s whatever is good for jews.

 

There are no general principles that apply both to jews and non-jews, despite what you read on Wikipedia. By the way, [scoffing] they have a page on jewish ethics! And it’s like fantasyland! [Henrik chuckles]

 

If you look at actual jewish writing on ethics over the centuries, there’s a great big difference if a jew killed a goy, or a non-jew, versus killing a jew, or stole from a non-jew, versus a jew, and a slave who is a jew, versus, … Anything like that.

 

[25:15]

 

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah. So Kevin, before we continue there I want to sneak in this real quick, because it’s actually the perfect timing. The fact that you brought up Blackrock. And I want to play a clip actually with Larry Fink here now too.

 

But you talked basically about the neoliberal capitalist world, right. How they’ve joined forces with all this, what do you call it? Against “Social Justice”. That’s the boiled down term they use for it. Social Justice. We could call it anti-White. We know what’s going on.

 

But it’s Blackrock. It’s literally they’re passing the mark. Now, they’re the first company in the history of the world that’s going to oversee, or manage, I think, about 10 trillion dollars! They’re like an asset management company they’re a holding company to handle other people’s.

 

But I saw an interesting clip the other day too, by the way, apparently the government hires them for regulation. They have insight into specific information that other banks, and financial services don’t have. They came out of nowhere. And it used to be Goldman Sachs. But Blackrock just kind of surpassed him all of a sudden. Like they came out of nowhere, at least as far as I’m concerned, right.

 

But showing his screenshot here. Blackrock 10 million dollars to support the “Black Lives Matter” movement. Of course, Amazon did the same. Goldman Sachs, right? And you have much more of some of the other companies, as well. But so this is not strange. Here’s even a screenshot from what Blackrock had on their website, I believe. Social impact is just what you mentioned here:

 

“In February we established the Blackrock Foundation to augment our efforts to promote a more inclusive and sustainable economy. Through our focus on financial security for vulnerable communities we aim to bring visibility and increased resources to support the upward mobility of black and Latinx communities. Our 10 million dollar plan included, …”

 

And then they went on from there right. But isn’t this fascinating how this capitalist corporation all of a sudden joins forces with the likes of not only the World Economic Forum, but the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals, right. Some people call this Agenda 2030. But there’s a number of names.

 

But have you heard of “ESG”, equity social, no sorry, Environment Social and Governance? It’s this new kind of stakeholder capitalist system. And it looks like Kevin, that it doesn’t matter what big company you go to they’re all on board on this.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah.

 

Henrik Palmgren: And it seems even at some points they’re perfectly willing to put the aspect of profit to the side to start inflicting change in a direction,. Which I think a lot of people wouldn’t agree to. But again, keep in mind these are unelected people, right? They’re taking their massive wealth, and power, and influence, and just steamrolling over, if you will, the democratic process. Right.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah. And you’re besides donating money they can punish companies that don’t go along. You can imagine a company holds out, pretty soon, you know, Blackrock divests from some of their, … They got all these investment funds. And they might have a harder time on Wall Street getting loans, and stock offerings, and all kinds of things. The supply lines, people might stop using them.

 

Because I think that’s what’s happened here is that you’ve had a critical mass. And now it’s moving fast forward. That putting incredible amounts of money. And so much corruption! I mean, they’ve exposed a number of these “Black Lives Matter” people taking money, and just nobody knows where the money went. It’s like millions and millions of dollars have been given.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Four, or five houses, right! In White neighborhoods, of course! [chuckling] They’re buying houses, just squandering the money, or running with it, or whatever. But listen to this clip. Here’s Larry Fink:

 

“Behaviors are going to have to change. And this is one thing we’re asking companies. You have to force behaviors. And at Blackrock we are forcing behaviors.”

 

There you go!:

 

“We have to force behavior.”

 

Wonder what that means? And I mean, they’re buying, they’re gobbling up everything. If you look at basically any major corporation today there’s two, I think they’re just called holding companies, right? Blackrock is usually number one on that list. And it doesn’t matter if it’s Pepsi, or Coca-Cola, or whether it’s Pfizer, or Moderna right, they’re up there. And then it’s Vanguard, number two. And then usually number three might be State Street, or you get, what’s his name again, is it Warren Buffett’s? I’ll forget what his firm is called now.

 

But it’s usually those four. My point is here they just have massive influence over the whole business sector, and the whole capitalist neoliberal system!

 

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Kevin MacDonald: What they do is they buy up large blocks of stock in a particular company. Then they have voting rights. And then they can go to the shareholders meeting. And they can put pressure. Any activist investor that has a significant stake in a company can be heard. I mean, you don’t have to have 50%. Even a few percent is enough to make you heard.

 

I mean, Carl Icahn, for example, famously as activist investor. He’ll buy a whole lot of stock and then he’ll say like:

 

“We got to get rid of this management team.”

 

You have a lot of power! And Blackrock has huge resources! They can do this. And so if a company is not on board with this stuff, they better get on board! And as Fink was saying, they don’t have any problems with coercion.

 

It’s almost like their real ideal model is a Chinese model, where you have top-down total government control, surveillance everywhere. But you do have a wealthy oligarchic elite. And I really think that’s what they’re aiming for. An oligarchic globalist elite that is able to establish a surveillance state and just radically curtail the freedoms of ordinary people.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yes, absolutely! It’s the ESG thing. And again, it’s kind of interchangeable. You have the Bank of International Settlements to a certain degree pushing this. You have the World Economic Forum. And then, of course, you have other, you know, United Nations as I mentioned, the Sustainable Development Goals, or Agenda 2030. But it’s like a Social Credit Score for the business world.

 

And, you know what I think the root of this is? I think the root of it, is that as they previously chose the democratic method, or whatever you want to call that strategy, right. Because to a certain extent they had control of information, they could manipulate. I mean, what does it matter if you have a democracy if everyone is just led around the nose by television, or whatever? [chuckling] It doesn’t matter, right!

 

But I think the reality is they kind of lost this control at some point, and things started moving and happening. And Trump was a big indicator of this. But you had Salvini in Italy, you had Orban in Hungary, there’s a couple of parties like this in Germany, in Holland, in the Netherlands, in Sweden, of course, right? And I think they slowly began to realize:

 

“We can’t count on these people to do our bidding! We have to start going to the business world. We have to start getting these massive CEOs aboard. And we have to build, …”

 

Like again, the Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum, he talks about “stakeholder capitalism”. And it’s this kind of integrated system, where basically every company is interdependent on each other. And they’re signed up to this, through the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals, or the ESGs under the same kind of globalist institution. They’re saying:

 

“If you don’t have enough non-White people working for you, you’re gonna get a lower score! And you’re not gonna be part of that grid work of all the other corporations. You can go to them. And yeah, for services, or from materials.”

 

So it’s like they’re freezing out those who are refusing to comply [chuckling]! That’s what I think they’re doing!

 

Kevin MacDonald: Right. That’s what it’s going to be.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Absolutely!

 

Henrik Palmgren: ESG, Environmental Social and Governance.

 

Under “Environment”, we know where that’s going. Climate change strategy, biodiversity, carbon intensity, which, of course, carbon has become an enemy now, all of a sudden. They’re going to use that as a kind of a value point, or a currency, it seems like in the future. And then on the “Social”, it says:

 

“Equal opportunities, freedom of association.”

 

Yeah, I wish!:

 

“Health and safety, human rights, customers production, blah, blah, child labor.”

 

But under that banner is also like:

 

“Diversity, equity. What are you doing to make sure that there’s not too many White people in your corporation?”

 

And things like that. So it’s like a whole neoliberal have capitalist, way of enforcing these very, very radical Left-wing ideas that you’ve been talking about for such a long time. But utilizing this in the business world. It’s a completely new strategy in a way, isn’t it?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah. And I certainly resonated with what you said before that Trump, and the populist parties, like in Hungary, just scared the hell out of these people! That was a total wake-up call! Because Trump was very popular.

 

I mean, Trump screwed up a lot of ways. But he was also under attack in his entire presidency. Like no other President has ever been. And there’s never been such a incredible, wall-to-wall, full-court press assault on a President, as they did. They tried to impeach him repeatedly! And one scandal, a hoax actually, after another! It was an amazing phenomenon!

 

So yeah, they are scared. They want to seal the deal! And I think [word unclear] are the best thing ever happened to them, because they managed to change all the voting laws and everything else, and get fear into the hearts of everyone. And now the war in Ukraine is one crisis after another. We’ll see.

 

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Henrik Palmgren: Yeah, exactly! I guess we can segue over to that a little bit. It’s pretty crazy. But it’s like Putin has actually given these people everything they want, in a way.

 

I mean, NATO has a new purpose now. They’re kind of like for 70 years what were they, sure they were expanding. But it’s like what do you need them for? What are they doing? Even Trump, didn’t he say:

 

“We need not to pay as much money to NATO.”

 

And I guess force other countries to pay, you know, unfortunately European ones, which is whatever. But, the point stands. What are we doing here?

 

And even here’s a globalist from Sweden here, Carl Built [sp]. You might remember him, who was the head of the Moderate Party, our conservatives. For a while he’s been hanging around on the Bilderberg meetings. He’s going to all these big globalist meetings and stuff. And he said this on Twitter yesterday, actually this earlier today then.:

 

“It’s going to be a unique Summit of Summits in Brussels today!”

 

And that’s where Biden is currently right now. He’s speaking there, and many other people. It says:

 

“It’s a NATO Summit, an EU Summit, and a G7 Summit. I think that’s a first when it comes to these things. President Putin, …”

 

Here’s the kicker, right:

 

“Has managed to bring the democratic world together in a unique way with his aggression.”

 

In other words, Putin is giving them exactly what they want Kevin! Isn’t that fascinating? Now, Putin has justified their existence, all these groups in a way, right? [chuckling]

 

Kevin MacDonald: The fact is that the NATO was an anachronism after 1991. They really didn’t need it anymore. And I just tweeted as saying there’s an article that Putin gave interviews in 2000, the end of 2000, 2001, saying that he would like to join NATO. And he said:

 

“That Russia’s part of the West.”

 

And all that. Well, that was rebuffed. And you could see that this American foreign policy establishment never gave up that hostility! And when Putin came in and got rid of those oligarchs, and he took over real control. Whereas Yeltsin was completely under the thumb of these oligarchs who ran the media, and really ran Russia. And just stole all the wealth, and became billionaires and all that. It was horrible!

 

And then they invited Ukraine to be part of that they kept expanding and expanding! Every time it happened Russia would object. And then they said that Ukraine could be part of it. Right on the border, big country. And 2014 with the Maidan Uprising, totally CIA operation, neocons, the National Endowment for Democracy, which is a neocon organization, Victoria Nuland, famously. And, of course, they’re freaked out by that!

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Changed the government! You had a government that was de facto neutral. It wasn’t hostile to the West, wasn’t hostile to Russia. And they were doing the right thing. But then this! So it’s just horrible what’s happening here!

 

Henrik Palmgren: They’re giving him, this fits perfectly into the bigger picture. And we’ll talk more a little bit later here, because what some of the consequences is here. And, of course, now again so-called the conspiracy theorists, we’re going to say, talked about this a while ago. Even as a result of the Covid measures, right?

 

But now the upper elites are beginning to address these issues openly, as well. Even Biden today, in fact, talked about food shortages as a consequence of the Ukraine-Russia war. It’s, of course, very convenient, as I said. Because the ball on this has been rolling for a long time. But there is an exacerbated problem as something I think will come down the pipes.

 

But before we get in there, you tweeted out an article as well. And I want to try to get to this. Because a lot of people are going back and forth. And I’m not sure what’s going on in Russia, I’m not sure what’s going on with Putin. Is he controlled by some of the oligarchs that wasn’t kicked out? Is he critical overall of these oligarchs of jewish influence? I’m reading both things at the same time. We can show a couple of things that shows it.

 

But you tweeted out this one from Tablet Magazine, “The fate of Putin’s jewish oligarchs”. Because as you said, when he initially took control there was a number of them. And they were kicked out, right.

 

We were talking about Boris Berezovsky. He ended up dying in London. But he was like going between Tel Aviv and London. And basically spent most of his fortune, and the rest of his life trying to undermine Putin. He, together with people like Alex Goldfarb, they sponsored the Orange Revolution in Ukraine. Coup attempt after coup attempt! All these things.

 

You had other people too, Abrahamovic. You had, what is it Kordorovsky? I think he was in jail for some time, right? Are there some others, Kevin, as well, that you’re aware of that are still there now?

 

Kevin MacDonald: There are others. Mikhail Fridman, for one. He’s jewish. But I think what happened here is that when Putin came in he wanted to consolidate power. He didn’t want to be controlled by these oligarchs. And there’s a big difference there. So he got rid of Kordorovsky, because he was big time involved in politics. Got rid of Gosinski who had a big position in Russian media, and was very pro Yeltsin and all that.

 

And these billionaires were not apolitical, they were totally involved in Russian politics. It was very much like what we have in this country, where the media is on one side and pushing certain things. And we can call it a democracy. But they’re giving us some messages and filtering it and everything.

 

And I really do believe that Putin consolidated power. And that the Tablet article is quite right. And it fits right well.

 

Also with an article we posted on Occidental Observer, simultaneously, almost, by this guy Rolo Slavskiy, who lives in Eastern Europe, and is a new writer for us. But he said the same thing. That Putin is in control in Russia.

 

And it’s quite the opposite of what’s going on in Ukraine. Where Zelenskyy is bought and paid for by this jewish oligarch Kolomoisky. And Zelenskyy’s got millions of dollars from this guy. Zelenskyy was a TV actor, he was a comedian. And he was nothing!

 

And so then all of a sudden this Kolomoisky guy, and there he is. He puts him in a TV show where he’s a President. And so, …

 

Henrik Palmgren: That’s Servant of the People. That was the title of the show.

 

[Added Image] Servant of the People – TV Series with Zelenskyy as President.

 

 

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Kevin MacDonald: Yeah. And he runs for President, on an anti-corruption campaign, if you can believe it. Kolomoisky is so corrupt it’s unreal! He was involved in the same gas company that Hunter Biden got all his money from. He’s got operations in Miami, and all this stuff. Offshore accounts. Complete sleazeball! And, of course, he’s jewish. So President Zelenskyy is just bought and paid for! He’s his boy!

 

You could never say that about Putin. Putin runs Russia! And anybody, including an oligarch who gets on the wrong side of him, better watch out! He runs the place. And you can say:

 

“Well, it’s not a democracy.”

 

Yeah, it’s not. But neither is Ukraine really. It’s an oligarchy. And it’s run by these oligarchs. And Ukraine has a reputation as being the most corrupt country in Europe.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: And it still is.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Thanks to the people meddling in it too. Right [chuckling]?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah. And democracy? Zelenskyy has just abolished all political parties that are opposed to him. Consolidated the media into one big media, that they have one message.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yep!

 

Kevin MacDonald: That’s democracy?

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yep! Freedom!

 

Kevin MacDonald: That is what we’re fighting for over there?

 

Henrik Palmgren: They’re fighting for their freedom, right! And then they’ve had like some of the most, I think even now, these are kind of maybe not side issues.

 

But I just saw in passing that it’s like the Covid thing have been crazy too in Ukraine. It’s almost like the US is using Ukraine as a playground, as a testing ground! The whole thing with the bio labs. There is an in-depth research on that alone. But those are mostly Pentagon funded at least. Some of them were even operated, they were operated by US diplomats and stuff.

 

They did the same thing in Georgia, right. All this crazy stuff! But it’s been so corrupt there! And there’s so many American that that have nestled their way in there and they’re using it as kind of like a slush fund, I guess, for the lack of a better term.

 

Look at Hunter Biden. He gets in there, he gets on the board of Barisma [sp]. He’s like $85,000 a month, or whatever the hell [chuckling] it was for literally doing nothing! And it gets worse! All these companies are in there and they’re meddling, and they’re ensuring kind of that Ukraine never really gets up on its feet and sorts things out. Do you see what I’m saying?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah. But then Joe Biden goes over to Ukraine and says that if they don’t stop this prosecution, this investigation, this criminal investigation of this gas company, he’ll withhold a billion dollars in aid!

 

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Henrik Palmgren: Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: So Biden is up to his eyeballs in this corruption! And there’s a possibility that the fact that the New York Times finally publicized those emails, and that stuff on that laptop are is authentic, you wonder what’s going on here. Maybe they understand that the Biden isn’t working. He’s very unpopular. But I don’t know what we’re going to do about Kamala Harris [chuckling]! Who’s the weakest Vice President in history! And everybody said she’s doing a horrible job.

 

But there was an article we had on Occidental Observer, right around the same time that article from Tablet, by Rolo Slavskiy. And he points out this recent Bloomberg article which is:

 

“Jewish oligarch, Mikhail Fridman, lamenting the fact that sanctions were imposed on him and his friends.”

 

With the Biden sanctions. That’s one of the recent things they did:

 

“And amounted to him, pleading for Washington to relent. Arguing that neither he, nor his friends, had any real pull or power over Putin. Without information indicating anything to the contrary, we may as well take his words at face value.”

 

I believe that!

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Putin’s position is strong and consolidated. And nobody can get really get in his way. And if you do you’re going to be in trouble! And he’ll probably confiscate your assets, … He doesn’t mind jews being rich, being pretty wealthy. But he doesn’t want them to be messing with politics, unless they agree with him.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah, that’s what I’ve heard too, right. And again that’s why I’m getting like conflicting information. And again, maybe we’re looking at this from a different view than he does. Obviously he’s a politician. He knows how to play politics to a certain extent he’s, at times, despite the West would deny, of course. But he’s diplomatic to a certain extent. And as you said, it’s not that he’s like:

 

“Out to get jews!”

 

Or something like that. I mean, obviously not. I mean, there’s people in there, and again let’s show a couple of headlines as a way to kind of get that point of view, of like contradiction. He said things like this. This article a while ago:

 

“Putin’s first Soviet government was mostly jewish!”

 

Kind of whoops! What is that, right? There’s other articles like this. And, of course, the West would say:

 

“Well look at how anti-semitic Putin is. He’s literally Hitler! Putin jokes about jews and money during visit to Crimea.”

 

He said:

 

“He cracked a joke about jews and money while visiting Crimea. He said ‘Oh! So the jews have fun problems with finances?’ he answered to laughter. Such a thing could only happen in Crimea.”

 

There’s things like that [chuckling] which is kind of more funny. But the West takes this very seriously. And this is a kind of a big problem, a big issue. But then at the same time people are like maybe looking to Putin, or something for like:

 

“Oh, he’s ensuring that there’s no jewish ethnic interest in the country.”

 

That’s obviously not correct either. Here is another compilation of some headlines that people had right. How he’s targetting nationalist groups. He’s going after the so-called far-Right in Russia. They’re a very multicultural country. I mean, they have a lot of different ethnic groups. They’re a federation, they’re very proud of that fact. Here’s Al Jazeera:

 

“The death of the Russian far-Right.”

 

The Jerusalem Post:

 

“Putin not remotely anti-semitic says Russia’s chief rabbi.”

 

The jewish Daily Forward:

 

“That Holocaust deniers in Russia now face five years in prison.”

 

Jerusalem Post:

 

“At Putin’s side an army of jewish billionaires!”

 

And that’s from 2012. So not that long ago. 10 years ago. And then Lauder, of course:

 

“Russia’s fight against anti-semitism isn’t just good for jews, it’s good for Russia as well.”

 

And then World Net Daily says:

 

“The day Putin prayed for rebuilding the temple.”

 

So it’s not as squared away and as easily like just say:

 

“Oh! It’s this, or that.”

 

As you said. But it seems to be, and I guess I’m trying to be as just charitable and genuine as, accurate I guess that’s the best term, as possible. And it’s like he’s, as I said, he seems to be very proud of his multicultural, you know, Federation of sorts. I’ve heard he mentioned that many times in talks.

 

And he thinks he’s fighting Nazism in Ukraine. And, of course, you have Azov there, so I’m not trying to look down on that. But it’s obviously not the biggest problem if you have Washington sponsoring everything, right? The liberal world order of the West sponsoring you. Your problem is not Nazis, they hunt Nazis in the West. So there’re not Nazis taking over everything and running the show in Ukraine.

 

But my point is he genuinely seems like, as long as you don’t like are engaging in like criminal behavior that undermines the Russian Federation, he seems to be somewhat okay. He doesn’t care what ethnic group it is. That’s what I’m getting to. What do you think of this Kevin?

 

Kevin MacDonald: Well again. I think it’s hard to really get an inside view of all that. Again this writer Rolo Slavskly has written out, … Well I posted already six articles of his. He’s got one called The State of Opposition in Nationalist Politics in Russia.

 

And basically what he says is that things have been changing recently. And that really the nationalist right doesn’t really have much of a conflict now with Putin. That Putin is changing their direction enough to molify them.

 

So I thought that’s very interesting. I can’t really vouch that this is absolute truth. But this guy really seems to understand what’s going on the ground in Russia. I understand that in the past these Russian nationalists had big problem with Putin. But that is not so much the case anymore, if at all.

 

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Henrik Palmgren: No. Exactly. I’m trying to find that article as well. But it’s a very interesting dynamic. And, of course, there’s big fights in the West over this:

 

“Do you take the Ukrainian side? You take the Russian side?”

 

And some people say:

 

“Oh, Putin is great! Russia is going to fix everything!”

 

And I don’t believe in that. And then at the same time it’s like I don’t want anything bad to happen to Ukraine, or Ukrainians. Obviously not.

 

But it’s clear to me, at this point, that they’re being used as a as cannon fodder in this battle. And I mean, even Liam Panetta the other day – the former, I think he’s exCIA – he just literally said:

 

“Whatever people say, this is a proxy war!”

 

You have massive amounts of funds. Biden gave them 15 billion the other. Day one billion on that was arms, weapons, all kinds of things. You have foreign mercenaries coming to the country encouraged to come to the country, and just this massive hypnosis campaign, essentially mind control campaign in the West, to just, … No matter what, like Ukraine number one! That’s it!

 

Like every liberal and Left-wing lunatic in the West now is like super gung-ho about like:

 

“Our people in Ukraine! The people in Ukraine! And their borders, and their freedom, and their nationalism!”

 

It’s quite something isn’t it?

 

Kevin MacDonald: It’s pathetic! Yeah, I really do. That’s why I really hope Russia wins this. At least gets a good settlement, where they are able to insist that Ukraine not be part of NATO. And at least get to Donbas and Crimea formalized.

 

Because I really do think that this is the globalist elites on one side pushing for Ukraine and against really Russia and China together now. I mean, China’s been backing Russia. And I think it’s an interesting sign that they don’t want to see this Western hegemony that has been going on since World War II. And really long before that.

 

But I think that they have decided that they want a bipolar world here, at least. Where you have other sort of centers of power. And I think that’s why the West is putting up such a strong fight. They see this as Armageddon here. They don’t want to lose this. Because if they do its going to be a huge setback for globalism. Some people already said that is a huge setback for globalism, anyway.

 

But I think if Putin really comes out of this looking good, and he may well, if he gets what he wants, I do think that globalism would take a huge hit! That this is an expression of Russian nationalism. It’s a rejection of the West. And it’s really a wake-up call. That this is not going to be a unipolar world anymore.

 

I mean that’s what happened in 1991 when the Soviet Union died basically. Immediately these neocons in the United States said:

 

“Look! Unipolar world! We are the boss! We can run things.”

 

So what you have? War after war! In the Middle East and everywhere else.

 

The Russian embassies in the UK and Ukraine, everywhere else, they were tweeting this stuff today where you had the pictures of American presidents like Clinton the Bush senior, Bush Jr, and all that. Not Trump, [chuckling] by the way! But Obama was in there. And they’re saying:

 

“Five wars and six million dead! And all in the name of ‘democracy and non-interventionism’.”

 

It’s a joke! So that’s the Russian point of view, that America has been intervening all over the place.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Wrecking havoc, and death, and destruction! Think what happened to Iraq! I mean, forget about the American causalities. Those who were, you know, large thousands. But Iraqis lost hundreds of thousands, in fact millions of people here!

 

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Henrik Palmgren: Well yeah! Madeleine Albright who just passed away, the former US Secretary of State said, remember that clip from 60 minutes?:

 

“Was worth it? 500,000 Iraqi kids!”

 

And look at the waves of migration that’s come in the wake of these conflicts in the Middle East, and North Africa, too!

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah a good example is Gaddafi with Libya. Hillary Clinton is cackling about how wonderful that was!:

 

“We came, he died!”

 

That kind of thing. When the result is total political chaos in Libya! You have these warring factions. I don’t think they’ve solved it yet. And then you’ve got migration coming up from Africa that Libya used to stop. They don’t do it anymore.

 

So they got slave markets and the whole crazy thing! Gaddafi was good in a lot of ways. And it was crazy for NATO, at the behest of Hillary Clinton, was really the prime mover of that. But that’s it. These liberals are, … You think of liberals:

 

“Oh, anti-war people!”

 

They’re not anti-war people!

 

Henrik Palmgren: No. No!

 

Kevin MacDonald: They want wars that serve their interests.

 

Henrik Palmgren: Exactly! And again. I mean, it’s like Biden said, this is in his speech there, is that after the Second World War there was a formulation of a liberal world order. And all these countries are beginning to kind of homogenize under this banner and stuff. And now, they’re saying, they’re kind of losing control of this.

 

And look, I’m not saying, and I personally don’t think that it will be anywhere better for White people if Russia teams up with China, and India, and a bunch of Asian countries, and exerts more dominance than the, … Look, it’s been bad enough under US control.

 

But we have no idea what’s going to happen if we truly go into like the abyss in terms of economic collapse. And let’s assume that they make it somehow over there, right. Russian alliance with the Belt and Road Initiative, of course, with Israel trying to kind of, … Now Israel is trying to play this little in-between game. They haven’t been quite outspoken about being pro-Ukraine, or pro-Russia. They’ve been asked to mediate many, many, many times, right.

 

But the point is, it’s like a new alignment, or I guess, a new Cold War, I guess. That’s the best term, a “new Cold War” of sorts is opening up.

 

Kevin MacDonald: That’s right. And I think if the West, … I just can’t want the West to win, because what we’re about is multiculturalism, massive immigration, anti-White politics. I just can’t get behind it! And I know the nationals in Ukraine, I love them. And I see why they do what they do. But I see it from our point of view, and someone who lives in the West. And if the West wins this, they’re just going to clamp down all the harder. And the whole anti-White revolution is going to go faster and faster.!

 

Henrik Palmgren: Yeah, I cannot say, … We need to take, rational, normal, sensible, people need to take control of the West again.

 

Kevin MacDonald: Yeah, right!

 

Henrik Palmgren: And we need to be in a position where we’re still influential, but on good terms! We should trade with Russia!

 

Kevin MacDonald: Absolutely!

 

Henrik Palmgren: We’ll get into this in the second part, we’re gonna take a break. But again like this absolute lunacy from Biden and from these European leaders who are like shooting themselves in the foot! You’re cutting yourself off from oil, and gas, and hydrocarbons. What are you going to do? Fertilizer now, all the grains. Like this will be a disaster! And again, I think it’s by design. [chuckling] But we’ll talk more about that in a second, Kevin. I’m going to take just a quick break here.

 

You can follow Kevin MacDonald on Twitter, The Occidental Observer edit, for editor. And that’s, of course, The Occidental Observer. Check that out. That’s a great publication. And then, of course, you have the Occidental Quarterly, as well. Still printing that Kevin? Is there a digital version of that, or is it just a hard hard copy version?

 

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We do not know how these things are going to be resolved! We don’t know if we have the means, in capability in many Western nations to kind of make up for the things that might be lost as a consequence of the poor decision-making that led to this schism between, well essentially Russia and the West.

 

But in the continuation you have a increasing side on the east being formed, with India, and China, of course, kind of aligning with Russia, Iran, you know, some of these other countries. A new alliance, kind of a new Cold War of sorts is rising up out of this.

 

And again consequence of this, high gas prices, food shortages, fertilizer shortage. And again these could have massive consequences in a span of very short time.

 

We’re going to talk more about that with Kevin MacDonald. We have some other topics lined up, as well. We’ll talk a little bit more some about the crazy anti-Whiteness that’s still, as all of this is ongoing in the West, and as we’re collapsing, the anti-White nonsense is still continuing to this day! There’s rising crime, of course. These things are never going away.

 

And we’re seeing a West in decline. And we kind of ask the question:

 

“Well, is this what they want?”

 

Isn’t that one of the goals of the Frankfurt School is to make the West so corrupt that it stinks? So the question is, people are rooting for the West’s collapse, or are they just abiding by this old agenda, essentially, as opposed to advocating maybe for a change in the West? I’m not saying solely political, but at some point sane, rational, sensible, people will have to step up and take responsibility and try to restore our nations to some kind of balance again. Or, that will be it! At least in the current configuration.

 

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@katana17
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I’ve made a transcript of this discussion here:

Red Ice TV – How Jewish Activism Transformed the West, Who Benefits from Ukraine-Russia War? – Kevin MacDonald – Mar 27, 2022 – Transcript


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@Bolly
6 days ago
I think the time for politeness has passed and the proper price for destroying our society and culture should be handed out instead. No gloves needed..
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@unknown
6 days ago
There is no democracy in a country at war. If USA was at war with Mexico or Canada, the federal govt would declare martial law and force all media companies to sing the same tune. Anyone caught doing anything the feds deemed demoralizing for the contry’s morale would be severly punished and talking shit about the enemy would be encouraged if not sponsored. This is not a new tactic. You also forget that Ukraine has been at war since 2014 when the first Russian invasion occured. In 1994 Ukraine received guarantees from USA, other western powers and Russia that they will not be invaded if they allow Russia to remove the Soviet nukes off Ukrainain territory. Until Ukraine gave up its Soviet nuclear arsenal it was the third largest nuclear power on the planet. In the “Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances” USA was one of the signatories. The bio labs in Ukraine, the Soviet Union had quite a few of them predating any possible American involvment. And about the corruption there, what did you expect was gonna happen in a place where paying bribes was the only way to get anything done?! This shit will not be eliminated overnight or even 30 years, it needs a few generations to change minds and hearts.
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@oghaki
6 days ago
https://doi.org/10.1007/s11406-021-00439-y
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@Tinaparadela1
7 days ago
Zilinski’s series ‘ Servant of the People is on Netflix lol
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@JimB
7 days ago
36:09
Even though “Putin is giving them exactly what they want”, which is (in my mind) undeniably the case, I believe that things have been orchestrated in such a way that Putin had little choice in the matter, if any. That seems to be the way things have worked for a long time. It was the same recipe that lead to ww2. Hitler and the axis powers literally had no choice but to REACT to what these mostly Jewish globalists had orchestrated after the 1st world war. The whole recipe has been described as a thesis-antithesis-synthesis phenomenon. I believe that there ARE very, very powerful people who manipulate opposites into direct conflict, often giving said opposites no choice in the matter, in order to profit in a number of ways from the conflicts and aftermath. This doesn’t require these opposing forces (the manipulated) to even be conscious of the overarching Master Plan. There truly IS an art to warfare, in bringing opposites into conflict and then initiating a synthesis after. I believe that warfare is even a religion to these movers-and-shakers at the highest level. I’ve studied these people and their little clubs for many a year… was even in the Rosicrucian Brotherhood myself for several… and, at least from my experiences with their common ideologies, am thoroughly convinced that, at the very top, these Kabalists and their goy dupes actually worship “the god of war”…
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@Baxter_MacTavish
7 days ago
Notice Free Speech is not under Social in ESG.
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@JimB
8 days ago
Awesome interview, Henrik. I caught the 2nd hour over at the Red Ice Members site as well. I really like the fact that you seem to place much importance in Mr. MacDonald’s assessments and opinions. That shows a high intelligence in yourself. Kevin is very wise, like a red-pilled grandfather. And you find that conversing him is like talking to an older version of yourself, don’t you? I just love the guy. Hail to you and your awesome wife. 🤜💥🤛
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@Runa
8 days ago
Is kinda hard to get behind your country when it’s being run by your mortal enemies.
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@Veles
8 days ago
That Finck (doesn’t that mean rat?) Jew looks White. I’ve been around, and seen Jews all around the world. Most are White. Yet, they claim to be the master race from the Levant. Fake. Look at the top Jew, Rothschild. Obviously a European. Something is seriously amiss with these Jews.
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@karvakake
8 days ago
Literally EVERYONE should watch this
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@Appalachian-American
8 days ago
It’s a great feeleing when you leave a comment a year ago and wake up to find that Kevin MacDonald made a paper on it!
Thank you Henrik and Kevin.
Hail Our People!
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@bcor29
8 days ago
KMac’s great. One of my favorite based boomers.
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@DoucheWorldOrder
8 days ago
Is Joe Biden a Nefilim Giant? (Yes, he is!)

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@DoucheWorldOrder
8 days ago
the “red ice” staff are a fed psy op. they are both jews and masons that worship satan.
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@Xepheon
6 days ago
Aaaand you’re a fag. You don’t even understand what “Satanism” is in the sense we use the word. When we refer to Satanism, we mean what Satan represents in the Bible. He represents the worldly tangible things vs Christ which represents more of a spiritual essence.
Jews don’t believe in heaven, hell or Jesus. Therefore, they don’t believe in satan. They don’t believe any of it. So to say they worship Satan is moronic.
So how can anyone take what you say seriously when you don’t even know the fundamentals of what’s going on here?
You provide no anecdotal or direct evidence to suggest they are a psy OP. That means you’re either a Marxist shill yourself trying to sew confusion wherever you can, or, you’re just an idiot who doesn’t realize you sound dumb and you’re just taking what little wind we have out of our sails.
I notice you fucks never provide alternative sources of info which aren’t feds… You just accuse everyone of being feds. You don’t say why you think or “know” that of course…
It’s all so tiresome.
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@DoucheWorldOrder
4 days ago
You are an idiot. The word Satan is of Semitic origin. You have no idea what you are talking about. You know nothing about Freemasonry nor do you know anything about religion. You are an idiot. You are sitting here watching videos produced by a CIA Psy-Op. Both these people are Jews. Both of them are Masons. They both worship Azazel and Cain. You are a moron.
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@aeonmouse
9 days ago
Don’t they attack Trump just to cause the effect of stronger support? We saw how he ushered in this new tyranny, telling us to all get this poison, while actually “shushing” and dismissing his supporters and fans who were booing him….just like he did when confronted with the issue of charging Hillary Clinton. Trump has been “Israel First Baby!” the entire way. He’s owned by Wilbur Ross, as you must know. The main thing about Trump is his ability to unite people. The trouble is that we see how Trump will ultimately throw his support under the bus, in order to cater to the “people(sic)” who run him.
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@brentholt68
9 days ago
If IQ and racial population is going to be mentioned as a reason for jews not dominating power structures then the book the Bell Curve is my reference. Jews are one stardard deviation above whites in IQ and that is with 1994 data. The problem Charles Murray identified in the book was IQ stratification which has definately(guessing) affected the white races much more then the jewish races. So saying that the white races have more persons at higher IQs because of a larger population then the jewish races may not be true as the white races may have a very different looking bell curve because of IQ stratification. And when looking at jewish culture, hi IQ people usually had large families where as white high IQ family typically have less children then average IQ white families. If Kevin MacDanald is going to make the statement that Whites have more High IQ individuals then Jews he is going to have to produce evidence. The correlation between IQ and outcomes seems to be the best that I have seen demonstrated so far.
There are other personnel characteristics that were mentioned in The Bell Curve but their correlation to outcome was not as good as IQ. Maybe this guy could do a study looking at nepotism on a racial level that is as good as the studies done by the authers of the bell curve and put it in a book. I would read it.
I am not saying this guy is wrong but I am leaning that way without some proof. Anecdotal eveidence does not count.
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@RabbitonRollerskates
9 days ago
The whole thing is about getting as many White men as possible to kill one another and to get as many White women as possible impregnated by non-Whites. In other words: the Kalergi/Hooton/Morgenthau/Kaufman/Zionist plan.
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@Heister
9 days ago
How nice, a shareholder ecconomy for the plebs, where 1 jewish family owns 99% of the shares…
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@Xepheon
6 days ago
I roll my eyes in disgust every time I hear people say Elon musk is the richest man on earth. What a joke. Its incredible, nobody even knows about the Rothschilds.
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@EarthlingCarl
9 days ago
They must always be NAMED!!
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@Epsteins_Island_Paradise
9 days ago
Kevin McDonald the legend!
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@kuvalauta
9 days ago
Kevin should have submitted the paper Sokal Hoax style using an Israeli sounding name. They’re fine with this type of writing so long as the author is Jewish, eg, Yuri Slezkine’s ‘The Jewish Century’.
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@Epsteins_Island_Paradise
9 days ago
Let’s go!!!
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@MasterOfStef
9 days ago
vased kevin mike donal?
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@1BasedGringo
9 days ago
It’s kind of Amazing that intelligent people like Dr. MacDonald still have a hard time separating Trump the actor from President Trump, the control op character concocted by the powers that be from the very beginning. They did this so that when a genuine nationalist ever ran for president on American values he would automatically be compared to Trump optics-wise, therefore, disqualified in the eyes of the masses who find his mannerisms grotesque and who aren’t part of the left or right. Not to mention having a control op like Trump in office is an excellent stress test to see what laws need to be tweaked or added to prevent someone like him who isn’t controlled to be elected organically. It’s actually quite genius if you ask me.
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@GaelicNord
9 days ago
jews do NOT have higher iq’s than Whites. Theres 3 to 4 times more MENSA tier high iq White people in America alone than there is all the jews in the whole world.
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@W_Poe_White
9 days ago
At
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Kevin says “That’s why the West [i.e. Western Neoliberal Progressive Globalist ruling elite] is putting up such a strong fight. They see this as armageddon…. If they lose this it will be a huge setback for Globalism.” I’m skeptical about that. There are plenty of indications that the Western Globalist elites are deliberately destroying the US-centered global economy as part of the Great Reset. Building up the Eurasian economy will fit in with the Great Reset agenda very nicely. An authoritarian regime in Russia, like the one in China, can implement Great Reset Technocratic reforms while Larry Fink and his ilk continue to revolutionize the West from the top down using their control over business, political parties, the media and government.
I rather think that the over-reaction to the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a calculated move to further dismantle the American-led global economic order. The Western Globalist ruling elite would do just fine in a multipolar world.
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@GaelicNord
9 days ago
All jews are AntiWhite by default of them being jews. There is no argument that can prove the contrary.
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@RabbitonRollerskates
9 days ago
Including Mischlinge, Jews probably account for about 0,5% of the world’s population, but are behind a good 70-80% of the world’s ills and evils.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
they attacked Trump simply so that you would defend him. the guy told us the enemy of the people was the media then he signed a resolution making it illegal to criticize them in any capacity. the same people that you are so carefully examining in the beginning of this show. the guy is shabos AF.
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@W_Poe_White
9 days ago
42:59
“Putin runs Russia.” It is questionable how far this is true. Chabad is extremely powerful in the Russian economy. The Russian Jewish mafia is alive and well. There are still Jewish oligarchs but they are more socially conservative and are grateful for Putin who has been very good for the Jews of Russia according to one Chabad rabbi quoted in the following video from Know More News:
“Rabbi Reveals Shocking History of Putin, KGB, Chabad, & Mossad”

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@Truth-Addict
9 days ago
Jews control everything…or are “influential”, because they are scheming, lying, dirty little devil cunts. They will do anything and everything to fullfull their prophetic fantasies of ruling the world. They have no morality when it comes to how they treat non Jews.
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@RebelliousGoy
9 days ago
▌│█║▌║▌║ Ǫᑌι???!! ║▌║▌║█│▌
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@W_Poe_White
9 days ago
25:17
Henrik talks about the economic hegemony exercised by asset management companies like BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street and Berkshire Hathaway. Jonas Nilsson recently made a great documentary on this subject and was interviewed by Henrik about this documentary. Here is the link:
“The Power Brokers You Never Elected” –

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@dZone
9 days ago
‘Ethnic Networking’… perfect term.
Memo from Larry Fink – to all those corporations subsumed into Blackrock: Putin bad! Leave Russia.
Instantly orchestrated. A miracle in communications.
This is much what I see the deep state to be, little jew nodes on the jew ethnet, propped up by shabbat goys.
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@GaryCook
9 days ago
Putin is controlled too. They all are. Just some are in different personal situations. For example, Trump has more money than Hillary but when it comes down to it they all work for the same agenda whether they realise it or not.
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@rarebooks
9 days ago
This comment was slimed to death.
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@Xepheon
6 days ago
I think the key to what you said is “whether they know it or not”. I think you’re 100% right, and that’s the hard part.. Figuring out who is knowingly doing us harm vs who is being manipulated/forced into certain avenues without wanting /knowing.
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@W_Poe_White
9 days ago
The paper by Andrew Joyce that Kevin mentions at
16:51
is very illuminating about how Jewish influence was disseminated in America from the 1950s onward. It is called “Modify the Standards of the In-Group: On Jews and Mass Communications”

“Modify the standards of the in-group”: On Jews and Mass Communications


Henrik should have Andrew Joyce on his show to discuss this paper.
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@Smirking
9 days ago
It’s so funny how Nathan Cofnas is allowed to publish institutionally accredited papers explaining jewish over-representation as a matter of genetic IQ – but his peers and co-ethnics will make it their explicit business to destroy any white gentile that makes the exact same argument to explain White over-representation compared to Africans. I swear, everything these people do proves Kevin’s thesis correct.
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@Milu_the_black_dog
22 hours ago
It gets even funnier…Nathan Cofnas literally wrote papers about academic censorship on topics such as IQ and genetics…but apparently, if you barely touch upon Israel or the “chosen people”, you are antisemitic AND wrong by default…without further examination of the evidence….But what do you expect from then?….Just assuming they have the same morals as us has been the error of our kind for hundreds/thousands of years…and no further civilization could even blossom ever again…unless they seriously addresses the J question
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@TicToc
9 days ago
it just seems that with so many very wealthy Jews investing in China, that this war is a smoke screen.
it’s an excuse to force the monetary system to exchange hands from US to China, which seems to be happening with this SWIFT stuff and countries not using the dollar.
the war is fake political theater 🎭 for people to pretend THAT is the reason it was a war.
but on reality the US is on the chopping block and it’s being handed to China.. the war is just filler, dressing.. an excuse for American elites and politicians to point to and pretend they weren’t in bed with the whole thing.
to many politicians in bed with China and Ukrainian and even Russia for us to pretend ANY of this is anymore that a joke. this is the war to provide cover for what they ALWAYS planned to do.. I just wish I knew how to prepare..
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@W_Poe_White
9 days ago
The war is real enough. What is fake is the Western hostile elite outrage. The war is indeed being used as an excuse to further sabotage the Western economies and build up the economic power and geopolitical power of China, Russia, India and other Eurasian nations. Israel, in particular will benefit from the rise of Eurasian economic dominance.
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@TicToc
9 days ago
well yes. I didn’t mean to belittle the loss of life or harm to people; I apologize if that’s how it sounded
I guess it just seems like when some low moral woman has a husband and so she sets it up so the relationship is over because the guy, even tho she always was on her way out. and she doesn’t want the ex to ACTUALLY move on so she sets him up with the next girl, or is trying to. idk.
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@ZionistReport
9 days ago
Great talk with Kevin MacDonald – reposted.
Everyone, please check our channel and sub – you’ll appreciate it.
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@hkfgfldkgkfd
9 days ago
I love this guy. He needs to be on more often.
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@Robert
9 days ago
Kevin MacDonald has been a frequent guest on Redice, check out
https://redicemembers.com/
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@CastizoCoalition
9 days ago
God bless the Aryan race! 0/
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@Hakage
9 days ago
ja!
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@Rover
8 days ago
They will soon nuke each other out of existence
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@CastizoCoalition
8 days ago
Shut up, filthy kike.
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@Rover
3 days ago
Hey man take it easy, the fact is the West and Russia both have Nukes and will surely eliminate each other, I’m just stating a fact that will happen in the coming era; surely they will use those weapons. Also, don’t assume everyone you disagree with is Jewish.

@cybertec69
8 days ago
You are a fucking moron. This is why Henrik has disabled the chat feature in bitchute.
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@CastizoCoalition
8 days ago
What’s wrong with saying “God bless the Aryan race”???
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@cybertec69
8 days ago
Which man made fictitious sky daddy are you talking about exactly. The gullible mindless dumbed down masses with their idiocracy, no wonder the rulers have been having such an easy time pillaging them for thousands of years. Rinse and repeat.

@Robert
9 days ago
K’mac <3
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@JustAnotherODCer
9 days ago
Two good & important men. A privilege to listen this discussion; t/y.
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@JustAnotherODCer
9 days ago
And hehe … was Like #14. Based.
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@disruptivecow
9 days ago
Just letting you guys know you can turn comments back on for Bitchute. They have upgraded the comments section to allow blocking/muting and comment notifications now.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
let’s see…. two Jewish leaders, dead white people in between. it’s obvious who’s benefiting. took me way less than an hour.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
aww. someone who loves the mainstream narrative slimed me.
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@1BasedGringo
9 days ago
If you think Putin is Jewish then you’re just as retarded as the group that thinks Hitler was one.
btw enjoy your second slime since you care so much.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
you’re the one reacting emotionally. in Putin’s own biography you can find his nationality card. on it his mother is listed as Jewish. those are the facts. you can believe what you want. some people believe in ghosts. I’m going to use evidence for my conclusions. and using his official biography is a lot more reputable than some random sperge in a comment section.
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@NationalistContent
9 days ago
Press X to doubt.
“His mother was a devoted Christian believer who attended the Russian Orthodox Church, while his father was an atheist.[670] Though his mother kept no icons at home, she attended church regularly, despite government persecution of her religion at that time. His mother secretly baptized him as a baby, and she regularly took him to services.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
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@Vicious
9 days ago
you’re retarded huh? it’s in his biography. on his nationality card it is listed. I already posted it. I guess you don’t know about the Russian Orthodox Church. do some research. it’s the only thing that survived communism for a reason… derf. it only takes 10 minutes to figure out how highly corrupted it was and still is. press the trigger, to doubt, next time. and stop thinking some ghost from the sky is going to save you.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
Wikipedia is literally edited by jews.
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@NationalistContent
9 days ago
You call me retarded but you make comments like this. I can’t take you seriously. You’re an 85 IQ wignat troll.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
that is not an argument. what I said is the truth. it’s not hard to find Israel’s higher ups training other Jews to edit wikipedia. lol wignat… I’d rather be that than a retard because apparently they can accept the truth even when it puts their world viewing question. unlike you, child. you have no place in politics.
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@NationalistContent
9 days ago
You haven’t provided proof. Documents can be faked easily you imbecile. If you had an IQ higher than 85 you would know this. She was a Christian.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
You’re in denial because your Christian, right? You’re giving this Jew a pass becasue you think he was a christian, like you. LOL Thanks for showing further the weaknesses that come along with your desert religion.
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@NationalistContent
9 days ago
Name me some good Pagans in the white nationalist and dissident right movement apart from Lana and Henrik. You have Greg Johnson who is a homosexual and vaccine pusher. You have Varg who is a Nordicist sperg who hates almost everyone who isn’t Nordic ane he’s an arsonist and convicted murderer. And you have Augustus Sol Invictus who is a race mixer and a total freak. And you have other Anti-Christians like Richard Spencer who shill for Biden, NATO, Macron and the vaccine. But, yeah, Paganism and racist athisem will totally save us.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
You are still stuck on the mainstream plantation. Oh, you don’t like A… Well then tell me why you like b…. I never said anything about paganism. Nice try. Spencer is a faggot, but he didn’t shill for nato. He said shilling for Russia is anti american. You’re literally the guy who gets caught up on all finkle think. Oh Biden hates something…. That means I love it…. Derp. AGain, you have no place in politics. You can’t even approach a topic without your retarded religious lense on it. Grow up, little boy. You’re still years behind.
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@NationalistContent
9 days ago
Can you not read? I covered both Paganism, racist atheism and Spencer who has his own religion. Ok, let’s say you’re right about Spencer and he didn’t shill for Nato. He has the EU flag in his Twitter bio and Nato and The EU are partners. And what about all the other points I made and what about Azov? They are Pagan, are being used by Nato/The West (whether they like it or not) and are in another brothers war? Plus there’s evidence they are funded by a Jew. But, yeah, only Christians are the problem.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
LOL You’re talking about twitter bio pics while complaining about burdens of proof. You didn’t make other talking points. Azov are their own thing. Zelensky, in the west, puts his henchmen in their uniforms. Because people are so easily decieved… How many more associated press talking points are you going to regurgitate? You live for the lies. Quora, wiki, Ap. Do you also repeat Wapo, ny and tyt? lol I never said ONLY Christians were the problem. It’s just easy to see where your blindspot is. You want to say there is evidence azov is funded by Jews…… Meanwhile the whole reason you wrote me was to say Putin is not a Jew…. THERE IS FAR MORE EVIDENCE THAT PUTIN IS GETTING MONEY FROM JEWS. But hey… Let’s ignore that for now so your talking points sound stronger. You lack the ability to be willing to see if your own worldview will burn. All you’re doing is repeating the mainstream narratives on why this brother war is acceptable. It’s not.
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@NationalistContent
9 days ago
You’re such a moron. Are you really trying to argue that Richard Spencer is not pro the European Union? Is that the hill you are willing to die on? Not only does he have the EU flag on his Twitter, he has long argued that Brexit was a bad idea. I would reply to your other stupid points but I just cannot take you seriously.
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@Vicious
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You’re the one who can’t be taken seriously. Like I said, Richard Spencer is a faggot. Damn Richard spencer and his TWITTER FUCKING PIC. Then you ignore everything Putin has done for the Jews and how they control him. But let’s ignore that, WHICH IS THE TOPIC, and focus on Faggot Richard Spencer’s twitter pic. You dont’know the first thing about burdens of proof. You know what you want to believe. Keep repeating the associated press, I am sure they aren’t leading you down a primrose path.
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@NationalistContent
9 days ago
You are the one who attacked Christians. The anti-Christians I listed are degenerates, murderers, race mixers and supporters of liberalism or globalism. Keep attacking Christians though because all those based Pagans, athiests and Apollonians will save us. And for some reason, you keep trying to assert that I am “mainstream” even though I am a long time Red Ice listener and I very rarely read or watch the MSM. Kevin MacDonald at 43 minutes during the interview says “Putin runs Russia and anybody, including a Russian oligarch, who gets on the wrong side of him better watch out.” So is KMac mainstream now, by your absurd standards?
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@Vicious
9 days ago
Yet, red ice has been repeating the mainstream narrative, and hey check it out, now they got you repeating the mainstream narrative. I called out your Chirtianity because it was the obvious blinders that were keeping you from being able to accept easily proveable facts. Like Putin is a Jew. Out of the HANDFUL of people you named, no they won’t save us, but neither will any one of these tlaking heads. And neither will a ghost in the sky. There is no predetermined armageddon. Christians are willing to accept that there is, it is there fate and there is no use fighting it. Christians give more money to Israel than anybody. They help bring illegals into the country. They advocate to WAIT for child birth. Yea, theres a good idea, when we are being demographically replaced. And yes, Kevin or Henrik aren’t telling the whole truth or they are ignorant of it. Both of these leaders are communist Jews. They both want the same thing. Yet we have to hear how these talking heads are ágainst brother wars’BUT….. followed by excuses as to why it’s ok this time. Ignoring Putin’s Jewish ties, communist ties and KGB history. You consider it an attack when I can call a spade a spade? You nver told me you were Christian, yet I was easily able to see that you were by you inability to question certain ideas. Sorry pal, Putin is a Jew. Christainity was created by Jews to make you subservient to them and keep you sitting on your hands waiting for your saviour instead of acting. It has created blinders on you, making you accept brother wars. Race first. Fuck your religion.
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@NationalistContent
9 days ago
It wasn’t Red Ice who made that point though. It was Kevin who is much more of an expert in Jewish influence than you. And I suppose you know more than the man who wrote this article on Kevin’s website? This is a mainstream source too, I suppose?

The Great Russian Restoration IV: The State of Opposition Nationalist Politics in Russia


It’s also hilarious that you attack Christians for birth rates when it’s the Mormons and the Amish who are keeping the white birth rate high. And although I like Lana she waited a long time before having 2 kids. You’re just embarassing yourself at this point.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
HA. Just becuase you can point to a tumor that isn’t cancerous doesn’t mean tumors are good. And guess what. I have the ability to be more honest than Kevin. He needs to remain professional so he can’t touch certain topics. They both literally sit here defending and wishing for a return ro ‘democracy’…. So yea, they aren’t correct about all of their positions. I like facts. You like talking heads. You think facts change based on the credentials of the person saying the fact, they don’t. You can’t understand simple concepts. I didn’t attack Christians ‘birth rates’. I talked about how DEEPLY ENTRENCHED beliefs within Christianity are easy to identify weakness. Want to point to other denominations strong points? The fact that there are denominiations are a WEAKNESS. How many denominations are there now? Talk about a divisive minset. You’re just a fucking pussy. You’re just a retard. You’re just low Iq sperg. These are not arguments. They must be added to actual arguments to have any weighht. All you do is straw man. Hey faggot, PUTIN IS A JEW and I proved it. Keeping the white birth rate high??? LOL Look how you word shit. It isn’t high. They have high birth rates in their small groups but not enough to make a difference. You are cherry picking people as representatives of ideas. I cab point to just as many Christians if not more, who sin, give/take jewish money, promote brother wars and so on…. and they have FAR more influence on the masses than the people you call pagans. I live in the real world. Where people effect outcomes. Not gods, not ghosts and not prayers. Unfortunately, the rest of us have to be vicitimized by the wars those retarded religions justofy in the minds of the elite.
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@NationalistContent
9 days ago
You wrote a lot without saying much. You accused me of being stuck in the “mainstream.” I listed sources that weren’t mainstream and now you dismiss them because they are pro-democracy or something? It’s funny that they are fairly pro-Putin and Russia in this interview but you also accuse them of being pro-democracy as if Russia is a great example of a demoracy? As for birth rates, yeah, the birth rates are not high now but it will rebound because eventually most of the athiests who don’t have kids will be removed from the gene pool. Eventually it will be mostly Christian conservatives who will be left and they will keep the birth right high. Conservative and Christian birth rates are signigicantly higher than liberals and athiests. Obviously not as high as Africa but more or less above replacement which is good enough. And it will improve. You say you live in the real world but there are almost no Pagans in the real world and atheists are dying out. You say that you like facts. Those are the pesky facts.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
Because you have devolved the conversatoin down to having to explain every minute detail, because simple concepts are easily lost on you. I didn’t dismiss them. I said THEY ARE REPEATING THE AP. And why? I discussed this as well, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO. He has to stay on the óffical narrative’, propped up by ófficial’s sources’. Putin is a Jew. End of story. Christianity was put together by the Nicaean council from the letters from SAUL. It’s Jewish. Get fucking real. Oh yea, Europeans got their spitiual beliefs from the desert, from which the hordes came from. You are an idiot. You wanted citations, you got them. So then you had to try and nit pick about personalities…. Facts are facts regardless of who says them. You were so easy to manipulate, all they had to do was have the people you hate say they support something and you do the polar oppositte automatically. Becasue you lack agency and critical thinking skills. You can respond, but I AM lowering myself, responding to your every retarded thought and defense of your thoughts, I will not be responding any further. You are literally afraid to research beyond what you currently believe. Why even argue people on the internet? Jesus will surely be making things right soon enough, without our exchange, no?
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@Vicious
9 days ago
I already posted his nationality card, that comes from his own biography. Not very hard to find. So yes, I did provide proof. Your WANT to disbelieve is your cross to bear. Yes, I know things can be faked. ESPECIALLY WIKI. If you had higher than an 80 IQ you would know this. If you ever did any research you would know exactly why the roc survived throughout communism. Because it was communistic, aka judaic. Here is fucking NAFATALI BENNET admitting that they edit wikipedia to benefit zionism.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zOpsenFzxYha/
I aklready posted his nationlaity card. You can find his biography easy enough. Do your own research, faggot. But you won’t. Because you are a coward afraid to question your already held incorrect worldviews. Fuck off child. You have no place in politics for that reason. For your very obvious character flaws.
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@NationalistContent
9 days ago
I already did some research. Of course Quora and Wikipedia are not the best sources but the burden of proof is on you to prove she is Jewish and you have not provided enough evidence to satisfy me.
“The authenticity of the data indicated in the document has not been confirmed.”
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-Russian-President-Putin-s-mother-was-a-Jew
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@Vicious
9 days ago
GO READ THE BIOGRAPHY. I provided proof. YOU are the one who wants to hold a ridiculous burden of proof on it because YOU DON’T WANT TO BELIEVE IT. Again, that is your cross to bear. Why don’t you post me some Jerusalem post next. derf. Next time don’t stop researching until your done. Don’t give up when your current beliefs are satisfied.
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@Nikitaras
2 days ago
Even in the Jerusalem of West,USA,they don’t have own president and they don’t need him.The same goes for Russia.Yeltsin was in good terms with them more than Putin,yet he wasn’t one of them.
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@Vicious
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Putin is a Jew. I already proved it.
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@Nikitaras
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A random image doesn’t prove nothing,i can photoshop it too to make him be from Bali.Given that he likes them and goes along with them nicely,he would be happy to claim that he is Yid,if would.He would gain sympathy points.
Everything you don’t like isn’t sometimes of Yid.
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@Vicious
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Go read the biography yourself. It’s an ID card. Sorry, but yes, ID cards do prove information. Your comment is retarded. How many times has he thrown on the yamika and touched the wall? How much money has he given and taken? How long has Russia been the hideout for Communism? How long has the KGB pushed communism through the back door? I understand that you have been supporting a brother war and now must defend your support. And you will deny all information that highlights your incorrect ideas. Putin will not save you. Just like Trump wasn’t going to save you.
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@Nikitaras
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Whoah,whoah!Noboby denied that he is Yiddiphile,but Yiddipile was Trump despite not being Yid.I would believe that card if there was a sufficient citation from reliable biography books.Also,i fucking not care about Putin,i am tired of this war,i only wantmy fellow nationals(Hellenes)get back and be safe.What i say,i say that because in this corner of internet there’s the general retardation that everything we don’t like is Jewish.No their upbringing is effective to lead a generation of servant gentiles.
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@Vicious
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Except in our corners of the internet they have been celebrating him. Even red ice is making excuses for brother wars. They report everything about zelensky, excusing Russia’s aggression. When it’s two Jews with dead white people standing in between them. Who would’ve thought it would be so simple to deceive these people just by putting some bad guys in good guys uniforms.
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@Nikitaras
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Oh gawd!I don’t fucking care about both sides,yet you accuse me as a Russophile.Even when i consoomed Eric Striker,i wasn’t vehenmently pro-Russian.Saying that he isn’t Yid,it’s just sanity,it’s not like joining on Wagner.Of course i know that Putin won’t save me,but only we will save ourselves.He fights for his country and that’s it.
Yids aren’t your only reason to our general deteriotation,that’s the hyperbole of this Internet corner.Yes they are subversive,but no way they are responsible for everything bad regarding huwhites.
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@Vicious
9 days ago
never saw Hitler put on a yamica and touch the wailing Wall. you’re comparing apples and oranges.
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@Vicious
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@Vicious
9 days ago
I was hoping someone like you would respond just so I can post the picture of his nationality card. f*** your beliefs. get some real information and make some solid conclusions. instead of calling people retards on the internet. you’re getting nowhere..
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@RabbitonRollerskates
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Putin’s mother’s maiden name was Shalomov.
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Hitler’s father last name was something like Shekelgrabber before he changed it
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[This is the 9th video in the Talmud & Taboo series from The Occidental Observer (TOO) contributor and scholar Andrew Joyce on the “jewish problem/question“, available at his BitChute channel.

Here Joyce discusses the US elections between Trump and Biden and how the outcome is just more of the same in either case as both are entwined within the jewish power structure, aka, the Deep State, aka ZOG.

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Andrew Joyce

 

Trumpism, Bidenism,

 

and the System

 

Nov 9, 2020

 

 

 

 

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Hello everyone. And welcome back to Talmud and Taboo. I am your host Andrew Joyce. And I think it’s as good a time as any to return to podcasting given the drama, the recriminations and shenanigans that have accompanied the recent putative election of Joe Biden to the presidency of the United States.

 

I have very mixed feelings about the events of the last few days, very mixed feelings, indeed!

 

I think I should begin by saying that I was never “MAGA”, on the Trump Train. I always had my reservations and doubts about Donald Trump.

 

 

Way back in 2015, I wrote an article titled “Jewish Intermarriage with Native Elites”, in which I attempted to take the marriage of Ivanka Trump to Jared Kushner, to highlight as a warning and to contextualize it and provide some historical background for the way in which it seem to be an almost conscious strategy of Jews to marry the children of their elites with the children of native European elites.

 

 

And I dug into the history of this. In Prussia in the 1800s, especially the Junker families. And the way in which certain salons were established in which the young men from the Junger families would be encouraged to socialize, especially with these jewish daughters. And in which these marriages would be more or less set up, or a context laid, in which the pairing up of these individuals would be more or less inevitable.

And I made the argument that these marriages provided a kind of concrete biological entwining of interests. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out that when your daughter, when your family, or your grandchildren, are for all intents and purposes Jewish, that basically you are going to have an additional concern, or certain perspective, on things like zionism, or the State of Israel, or the history of the Jewish people, that will lend you certainly more amenable to jewish arguments, and I believe Jewish influence.

 

So, the Kushner influence was something that concerned me very, very, early on in the drive for a Trump Presidency. And I must say that my feelings are no different when it comes to Joe Biden, who has no less than three children who have married Jews. Everyone has been talking about the certain statistical unlikelihood of Joe Biden‘s recent election results. And I would simply say, well here is another statistical improbability. The improbability that all three of one’s children would end up marrying Jews! I think that’s something worth thinking about again.

 

 

And if you haven’t read my essay “Jewish Intermarriage with Native Elites”, then I think you certainly should do so in the next few days. I think it will help contextualize some of the things that surely will unfold over the next four years.

 

So there is an ambivalence there, a certain ambivalence, a certain trepidation about Trump. And I think over the four years of Trumpism that we have thus far witnessed that there were concerns more or less confirmed. Certainly I don’t feel any radical need to revise any of my initial concerns. I felt right at the outset that was what we would see would be more or less a continuation of the non-negotiables of what you might call “The Deep State” or ZOG, or whatever label you wish to place on the fact that this system, as we know it, would more or less continue.

 

 

So we have seen the ongoing expansion of GloboHomo, for example. We’ve seen the fixation on GDP, as the axis upon which global happiness is supposed to turn. We’ve seen the relentless and flamboyant “Village People” promotion by Donald Trump of homosexuality in remote African States.

 

 

And we’ve had this bizarre spectacle, this bizarre sight of evangelical Christians in the Red States cheering on a President who is actively pushing sodomy in African backwaters. So it takes on a kind of surreal perspective whenever you look at it in the cold light of day.

 

 

So there’s been a continuance of these things, and certainly there’s been a continuance of the American-Israel symbiotic relationship.

 

 

This habit of unquestionably donating to Israeli military ambitions, and providing Israel with all of the diplomatic and institutional support that it so desperately seeks from the United States. This has all continued unchallenged, unabated, and unscathed.

 

 

So when the first turn in the votes, shall I say, in favor of Joe Biden occurred, a quote came to mind from the book “Anarchy and Christianity” by the French philosopher Jacques Ellul.

 

 

Ellul will be familiar to some of you, because he wrote a book called “The Technological Society”, which I think he floats his disgust, on at least one occasion, and which is certainly complementary, or certainly supplementary, to Ted Kaczynski’s* writings. It’s basically decrying the influence of technique, and technology on society. And I believe that Jacques Ellul is a philosopher worth paying some attention to.

 

[*Theodore John Kaczynski, also known as the Unabomber, is an American domestic terrorist, anarchist, and former mathematics professor. He was a mathematics prodigy, but he abandoned his academic career in 1969 to pursue a more primitive lifestyle. Source: Wikipedia]

 

Now in “Anarchy and Christianity” Ellul basically makes the argument for Christian anarchism. He claims that anarchism is something that can never be genuinely politically fulfilled. But he makes a case that Christianity itself is an anarchist doctrine. Now I don’t agree with the central premise of the book. And overall, actually, it’s not that interesting of a book. But there are some interesting quotes and arguments made within it. And one of those quotes which stuck in my mind and which was resurgent in that initial turn of the votes towards the election of Joe Biden, was the following, quote:

 

“All our political forms are exhausted and practically nonexistent. Our parliamentary and electoral system, and political parties, are just as futile as dictatorships are intolerable. Nothing is left! And this this nothing is increasingly aggressive, totalitarian, and omnipresent. This nothing!”

 

When I sat back and I started thinking about the transition which is surely to play out between Trump and Biden, I listened to all of the media uproar and the discussion of how America is so partisan now, and all of the differences between Biden and Trump, and how this was going to change, and that was going to change.

 

 

And certainly on some level there are going to be some superficial, and I suppose not so superficial changes taking place. There are certainly going to be a radical change in the mood of American government.

 

There’s no question that even though we can doubt the sincerity of Donald Trump‘s political beliefs. And certainly have our suspicions about some of the influences coming to bear on him, that Trump was a force of an amorphous, reactionary, conservatism, which picked it’s battles and was kind of symbolically Republican, conservative.

 

 

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There’s no real coherence to Trumpism. So when I read recent news articles talking about how Trumpism may, or may not, or could, or should survive the downfall of Trump, whether it might be a resurgence, for example, in the young politician Cotton, the young senator, I have my misgivings about that. I’m not sure that we would want Trumpism to survive.

 

 

I’m not sure that it can survive without Trump because it’s so dependent on his own personality. I think that once you subtract Trump from Trumpism, what are you left with?

 

 

You are left with a kind of vague neoconservative, bland GDP worshiping, kind of a glorification of capitalism. That’s me thinking off the top of my head.

 

 

But what is Trumpism? Where does it go, beyond memes and owning the Libs with statements that don’t leave anywhere? What is Trumpism other than consecutively, and unceasingly, giving serious consideration to doing something. I’m not sure that we can encapsulate Trumpism in such a way that it can survive the downfall of Trump.

 

 

 

So anyway, with all of these debates and discussions about what might happen next and how things might change and all of this, I was focused on what will stay the same. I was focused on “the nothing” that Ellul was alluding to, and discussing there.

 

 

This “nothing”, this kind of inert, but slowly moving progress towards decline! This gradual slip into an abyss! An abyss dominated by the non-negotiables of the system global Globohomo, zionism, and the worship of GDP, and the subservience of the common man to the system, and his depressing inability to overcome it, or overturn it, in anyway.

 

 

 

I think it’s foolish of liberals, and leftists, of a sincere ideological bent, to celebrate the victory of Joe Biden. Joe Biden ultimately is as meaningless, and as incoherent, and as amorphous, as Trumpism was.

 

 

Biden will be nothing more, and has been elected as nothing more, than a symbol. He’s a symbol of being not Trump. Just as Trump was elected as a symbol of not establishment.

 

 

Both of these symbols are surface level. Both of these symbols are ultimately meaningless, and result in the ongoing frustration of an electorate that cannot seem to achieve anything, no matter how many times it votes. No matter how many times it goes to the polling booth. No matter how many shit posts they put on social media. No matter how much outrage they can manage to stoke over very superficial things. And I suppose some not so superficial things. That we just end up repeating the same pattern over, and over, and over again.

 

 

So I’m not mourning the downfall of Trump and Trumpism. And I’m not terrified of the rise of Joe Biden. I think that the challenge for people like us, is more or less the same. It is to challenge the non-negotiables of the system. It is to challenge Globohomo. To challenge the ceaseless worship of GDP the axis upon which our happiness is supposed to turn, but really under which our happiness is ruthlessly crushed and oppressed.

 

And above all we must, of course, work hard to bring down this emphasis on support for Israel as a kind of prerequisite to any meaningful and just participation in our political systems.

 

So the point I’m trying to make, I suppose, is that your task hasn’t changed, nothing has changed! There may be some differences, if anything though, in the tactical realm.

 

 

I see with the downfall of Trump, the end of the kind of meme wars, humor-based activism that marked the period, perhaps, 2015. But really it was dying by 2018. The meme wars, this idea of owning the Libs. You’re not owning the Libs! And to be fair the Libs aren’t really owning us. We are all just participating in this endless wheel, this endless cycle, which spirals ever downwards.

 

 

And we push them, they push us, in all of these superficial ways, and nothing gets achieved, nothing is accomplished, and we just simply decline.

 

 

I think that broader perspectives on the nature of the system are what are required today. And I view it as a positive that a lot of the activism in the movement in terms of producing content at the minute is system based. It’s looking at some of the philosophical, first principles, of the issues that we are facing. And it’s giving serious discussion and serious critique to things like GDP worship. And as always, criticism of Jewish influence at the highest levels.

 

 

If I want you to take away any message from this podcast, it’s that we need to challenge “the nothing”. We need to challenge “the nothing” which is increasingly aggressive, totalitarian, and omnipresent. And the best way of doing that is by creating something. We will have to create institutions that will perhaps at first be powerless. But they will be there. And they will be something that is not “the nothing”.

 

And I think that now is the time for us to refine ourselves ideologically, and to present a vision to well-meaning, well-intentioned people that is quite a part from Trumpism and Bidenism, which ultimately on the grand scale, are both indistinguishable from the other.

 

Thank you for listening. Goodbye.

 

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NOTE: Andrew Joyce has subsequently posted an article at The Occidental Observer expanding on this podcast topic:

Four More Years Of …

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Luke Ford – Andrew Joyce On The Jewish Question — Apr 17, 2017 — Transcript

David Duke Interviews Dr Andrew Joyce — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio: Dr Andrew Joyce – The History of Jewish Influence — TRANSCRIPT (Part 1)

Red Ice Radio: Dr Andrew Joyce – The History of Jewish Influence — TRANSCRIPT (Part 2)

 

 

TOO – Andrew Joyce’s Podcast – Talmud and Taboo — Part 01 – Jun 30, 2020 — Transcript

Andrew Joyce’s Podcast – T & T No. 1 – The Skype Directory — Jul 15, 2020 — Transcript

Andrew Joyce – T&T No 2 – And then one day… – Jul 20, 2020 — Transcript

Andrew Joyce – T&T No 3 – Kicking Over the Bucket – Jul 27, 2020 — Transcript

Andrew Joyce – T&T 8 – SEMITISM – Aug 28, 2020 — Transcript

Andrew Joyce – Trumpism, Bidenism, and the System – Nov 9, 2020 — Transcript

Guide to Kulchur – The Protocols of the Elders of Zion – Andrew Joyce – Nov 22, 2020 — Transcript

 

 

Andrew Joyce – BLM – Irish Edition – Dec 31, 2020 – Transcript

Horus – Discussing the ‘Russian Pogroms’ with Andrew Joyce – Jan 20, 2021 — Transcript

Guide to Kulchur – The Merchant of Venice – Abusive Victim-Identity Syndrome – Andrew Joyce – Jan 20, 2021 — Transcript

 

 

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[This is the 7th video in the T&T series from The Occidental Observer (TOO)contributor and scholar Andrew Joyce on the “jewish problem/question“, available at his newly created BitChute channel.

Here Joyce discusses the recent and ongoing take-down of The Occidental Observer website jew to a Website Firewall provider (Sucuri) no longer willing to provide security against DoS [Denial of Service] attack.

 

UPDATE:  TOO is back (as of Aug 15) with a new firewall provider.

— KATANA]

 

 

Andrew Joyce’s

 

T & T No 7:

 

The TOO Takedown

 

Aug 14, 2020

 

 

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TRANSCRIPT

(22:55)

 

[00:00]

 

[Intro music and imagery]

 

[00:31]

 

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Talmud and Taboo.

 

I’d like to begin by saying a very special thank you to those who donated via Bitcoin and Dinero after the last episode. Certainly very encouraging and it makes me want to keep going in producing these podcast episodes.

 

This week I’d like to talk about something very serious and actually very personal.

 

Just a few days ago I was as part of my daily reading routine going online to take a look at The Occidental Observer, which I enjoy reading as much as the rest of you. And I found I couldn’t access the website. So I tried a couple of different browsers and nothing was working and I checked my WiFi, and it was fine. And then a message popped up on my phone from a friend, and the message said that he couldn’t access the website either.

So I went on Kevin MacDonald’s Twitter, and sure enough Kevin had a msing posted on his Twitter basically saying that the protection service, the firewall protection service The Occidental Observer had used had decided to revoke their service from us due to violation of Terms of Service. This is the terminology that they use.

 

Now we need that firewall protection because around four years ago The Occidental Observer came under very sustained DDOS attack from a lot of Israeli IP addresses. So for those of you who don’t know it a DDOS attack, a denial of service attack is where basically there are so many requests are made on the website that it basically freezing the website and crashes it and makes it unusable.

 

 

So whenever you employ one of these firewall services, … Cloudflare is another one of them for example, then it can filter out, and it can interpret the requests to ensure that only those which are genuine, and not part of some automated program or whatever, are allowed to actually access the website. So it slows down the demand so the website does not itself crash.

 

Now, whenever you remove this kind of firewall protection it not only makes the website vulnerable to such attacks again, but it makes it vulnerable to also to things l hacking, and retrieval of certain data and information as well.

 

So in this day and age, especially for controversial websites service providers like this which offer firewall protection are absolutely essential to the functioning of a website. And if you can knock that out then basically you are bringing the website to its knees. And that is what has happened here with The Occidental Observer.

 

Someone and I think we can all guess, we can make a reasonable estimate as to who exactly this was. Jewish groups have contacted the providers. The service provider for The Occidental Observer and whether certain threats have been made, or whether certain propagandistic arguments have been made, either way, pressure has been brought to bear on that service provider to cease providing a service to The Occidental Observer.

 

So for the time being The Occidental Observer, as I say, has been brought to its knees and it requires someone to step in and offer that same level of service, and that type of service. If the website is to continue.

 

This is kind of a personal thing because over 200 of my essays are on that website. They are on The Occidental Observer. Now some of my essays, maybe 20, 30, have been reposted over the years elsewhere. But The Occidental Observer contains the bulk of my work. Over eight years of work, spanning many thousands of words. I actually tallied up the number of words that I have written, what the average book would be, and really on The Occidental Observer there is the equivalent of eight books that I’ve written on Jewish matters, Jewish history, contemporary Jewish activism, etc, etc.

 

So this is a personal blow for me, it’s a personal blow for Kevin MacDonald, who has many thousands of blog posts there. It’s a personal blow for all of the writers, who have over the years contributed to the website. I mean as of right now none of that content is available for anyone to read, anyone to share, anyone to benefit from, or learn from. There are also many, many comments. Some of the listeners to this podcast are frequent commenters at The Occidental Observer, and I’m sure you will be disappointed also that your own interactions with that material and with other readers has, for the time being, completely vanished!

 

 

[05:15]

 

 

It’s interesting to me as well as alarming because it reinforces the fact jewish activism today is very much focused on censorship. In fact, they are going for broke on the censorship tactic.

 

Since the Second World War there has been an emphasis in jewish groups on censorship. Before the Second World War, actually beginning in the 1880s, in response to the rise of the anti-semitic political parties, the rise of the anti-semitic political movements in the 1880s, which were themselves a reaction to the intrusion of jews into European culture after emancipation, which occurred really beginning with the French Revolution. And it kind of more or less finished in Europe by around 1840, 1850.

 

Then you get about three decades of discontent which results in the 1880s emergence of anti-semitic political groups designed to remove the cultural and political, economic rights of jews which in the firm of citizenship. And the jews then responded to this effort with their so-called “jewish defense” bodies. They begin really in Germany, but are quickly replicated in Britain, and then in the United States and France, and so on, and so forth.

 

So between 1880 and 1930s, so we shall say, that fifty year period jews did not initially go for censorship exclusively. They focused very much on counter-propaganda. So if someone made the argument that jews were dominate in culture, jews would produce texts and books, and pamphlets which argued the opposite. Which argued that jews were powerless in culture, or which attacked in some way or another the anti-semitic parties and their credibility, and tried to undermine the information that they were putting out.

 

 

The problem with this tactic was that it was always going to fail! I mean one of the quotes which stand out to me from Hilaire Belloc’s 1922 book “The Jews” is where Belloc says that:

 

“One of the great strengths of the anti-semites was their ability to collect factual information.”

 

And really build a factual case that is almost indestructible!

 

 

And for Belloc, the jews were never quite able to combat this thing. They never really had the argument on their side, and never had truth on their side! And therefore they were always, in some sense, weak in their attempt to engage with them with this kind of material put out by the anti-semites.

 

 

And jewish counter-propaganda material was always weak and it never had the desired effect because when you are looking at two pieces side by side, it is actually quite easy to tell that the jewish argument is bogus! And actually jews, in many cases, found that their counter-propaganda not only didn’t work, but actually made things worse, because it was so obviously a piece of contrivance, it was so obviously an artificial piece of material.

 

So obviously the production of such material had failed catastrophically by the 1930s, because it didn’t prevent the rise of the National Socialists, and it didn’t prevent the rise of anti-semitic political parties elsewhere in Europe. It didn’t prevent widespread anti-jewish hostility in countries like Romania, or Hungary, or even in France, when you look at the Dreyfus case, for example.

 

[08:49]

 

So this strategy always failed for jews because they never had truth on their side. The other response, then, was that they simply relied on trying to get as much control over the narrative as possible, and tried to smother, rather than argue with the arguments of the anti-semites.

 

In the post-war period, this has resulted in widespread jewish lobbying throughout the West for group libel laws, for speech laws, for definitions of things like “anti-semitism”, which we’ve seen in recent times, and those definitions are, by nature, designed to quell speech. They are necessarily broad in their definitions and necessarily open to very generous interpretations by judges seeking to curtail speech.

 

 

I would say that in the last ten years, the newest front in the war has been to take on tech – to get a real grasp on the internet, and to get a choke-hold on all of the big platforms, and to figure out strategies to work their way through – whether it’s with propaganda, or legal pressure, or advertising boycotts – the smaller service providers, which together make up the internet and what it means to have a functioning website and to be able to disseminate information.

 

[10:25]

 

So, whether you are a web host – say, something like GoDaddy – or whether you’re providing an ancillary service like Cloudflare, who offer DDOS protection and so on, all of those necessary components, … if these jewish bodies and censorship activists can manage to get their hooks into at least one part of this necessary puzzle, then they basically bring down the whole house of cards, and the targeted website, the source of information which is particularly grievous to them, can be brought to its knees by simply attacking that one component.

 

And this is what we’re seeing. And it’s becoming more and more brazen. Arguments in favour of free speech seem to be disappearing. You find fewer and fewer individuals willing to stand up and say:

 

“Where’s free speech in all this?”

 

Because, actually, I think a turning point has already been reached at the highest levels. On the level of theory and the philosophy of speech underpinning a lot of this activism, the tide of opinion has already shifted away from defending our ideas. It’s already shifted in a direction which says;

 

“Our ideas are beyond the pale! They’re not protected by free speech. They’re not protected as legitimate speech, and therefore they can be banned.”

 

And therefore, we’re going to see a lot more falling back on things like:

 

“Terms of service, terms of service, terms of service!”

 

And in those terms of service for all these organisations, service providers, and companies, we will increasingly see not only arguments for protection against discrimination on the grounds of race, or sex, or gender identification, or whatever it’s going to be, we will start see in “terms of service” things like definitions of “anti-semitism”, which benefit organised jewry.

 

So already, just a couple of days ago — it’s funny how so much of this is starting to happen all at once — Facebook have more or less declared that they are adopting the definition of “anti-semitism” developed by these jewish bodies. That means they will now start censoring any material which portrays jews, or represents jews, or reflects jews as “powerful”, as having influence in the media, in politics, et cetera, et cetera …

 

So, a tidal wave — a tsunami of censorship — is building! And I feel like we haven’t even seen the worst of it yet. I feel like the worst is definitely yet to come. And I think that that will actually take the form of legal measures, eventually.

 

I think the censorship of speech is a prelude to “legal censorship”. They will start by saying that this kind of speech is “in breach of terms of service”. I think that the end point here is that this kind of speech is “in breach of the law”. This is the long game that’s going to come. We need to always keep that in mind.

 

Now, the argument that they’re making is that when we talk about things like jewish influence, that this is a very hostile and very insidious “conspiracy theory”, [a claim] which is unsustainable in any reasonable intellectual sense. The example that I always fall back on when I’m trying to explain these things to friends, is to say:

 

“If I told you that Ethiopians were exerting too much influence in the media, what would you say?”

 

They would laugh and say it’s nonsensical. I would then ask them:

 

“Then why is it nonsensical?”

 

They would say:

 

“There’s no evidence for it. Point out for me the Ethiopians that are in very influential positions within the media, or banking, or whatever it might be, or in politics, or the Ethiopian lobby; just point to the individuals and the supposed methodologies that might underpin such a conspiracy.”

 

I would say:

 

“That’s a fair point. Excellent! Right! We’ve now got the argument underway. We’re moving in the right direction.”

 

They would say:

 

“How so?”

 

And I would reply:

 

“Now consider that I said that jews have the same influence in those spheres [that was previously ascribed to Ethiopians]. Would you now say it’s ridiculous, or nonsensical?”

 

They wouldn’t go that far. If they’re pro-Jewish, or they have no identified position on the matter yet, they will normally kind of wriggle for a little while. They will reach for caricature, like,

 

“They don’t all meet together and come up with some sort of grand plan, or whatever it might be.”

 

[15:23]

 

But the reason they don’t say it’s “nonsensical”, or that it’s a “load of garbage”, or what have you, is because it’s quite obvious, and it’s quite provable that jews, as individuals, or as a group, actually do occupy very significant positions in all of these influential spheres.

 

It’s nonsensical to say that somebody who runs a media company does not have influence!

 

And it’s equally nonsensical to say that an individual running such a company does not have influence because he’s jewish. No! The jewishness in some ways doesn’t matter, because the position is influential. And if you have a jew – a strongly identified jew – in such a position, then that strongly identified jew is influential! And I think it’s interesting and worthy of enquiry as to whether his “Jewishness” features, to any extent, in his exertion of influence! Because that then taints the influence and it becomes a jewish influence.

 

So all of these things are actually empirically testable and observable, and we can track these things. We can look at how many jews are in pro-immigration groups. We can look at who these individuals are who are producing pro-migrant propaganda. Or, we can look at who these individuals are who are putting pressure on internet service providers and ancillary services to try and limit the ability of certain websites to operate and to disseminate the information that they have.

 

So, the question of jewish influence is always testable! And, in theory, should always be debatable. It should always be an arguable point, if you have the information which you feel will prove your case.

 

Unfortunately, jews appear on the one hand to have completely capitulated to the fact that we are telling the truth! Simply because they have “exited the argument”, shall we say.

 

The sole strategy that they now appear to be pursuing is that of completely crushing our ability to speak! And to completely censor our arguments! And to completely eliminate any possibility that people who are, as yet, undecided, or who are unread in these matters, or who are in a position where they’re simply asking questions, or noticing that things aren’t adding up, or, as in the case there of they’re looking at things like the potential Ethiopian conspiracy, versus the jewish conspiracy, and they’re noticing that there might be something there!

 

They’re at that very early stage, which I think most, so-called “anti-semites”, who might self-describe, or not now, were once at that stage themselves. It’s that first initial feeling that:

 

“Wait a second! There might actually be something going on here! Because I can see that there are certain coincidences in the demographics behind some of the issues that I’m looking at.”

 

And it’s very useful to jews to be able to snuff out such patterns of thought at a very early stage.

 

And for those generations which have not been indoctrinated as young children, and all the way through their education system, [that indoctrination] which now seems to be happening. Lots of pre-schoolers are being educated on “tolerance”, and so on and so forth.

 

But for the older generations, in particular those who are perhaps in their 30s, 40s or 50s, and are only now perhaps waking up to certain realities about the world they live in, it’s very useful to be able to prevent the spread of information to those people.

 

Of course, the other argument being made by jewish groups when they’re putting pressure on all these service providers, the infrastructure of the internet, these social media companies, peer-to-peer video platforms, and everything else, is they make the case there is a moral argument here.

 

“You’re hosting immoral and dangerous content!”

 

This has always “triggered” me, to employ the SJW language! It “triggers” me because these people are part of the same, so-called “liberal superstructure”, which thinks that it’s moral to take unborn children and execute them, and dismember them in the womb!

 

[20:05]

 

These are the “moral values” of those lecturing us about posting heavily-footnoted articles about verifiable history on The Occidental Observer. These are the “moral paragons” who are dictating to us what our moral parameters should be. These are the same people who very enthusiastically support a state, wherein it’s a social function to pull out an armchair, grab some popcorn and some soft drinks, and watch bombs get dropped on women and children a little while over a heavily fortified wall! This is what passes for our “moral superiors”!

 

 

And I’ve always thought, what if we ask someday that jews adhere to their own “terms of service”? The terms of service apparently laid down in their own holy books, especially the Old Testament? What if we ask them to adhere to some of those moral principles, rather than pay them lip service, and lecture the rest of us about a supposed “Judeo-Christian civilisation”?

 

The truth of the matter, of course, is that our civilisation learnt absolutely nothing from the jews, when it comes to morals! Absolutely nothing!

 

The only thing Christians ever learnt from jews, was:

 

“Don’t take out loans without knowing the full extent of the interest you might be charged, and to always be wary of jewish ‘terms of service’, because they’re liable to change at a moment’s notice!”

 

When you look at jewish emancipation, and jewish citizenship, we ask them to adhere to certain “terms of service”: That they behave like other citizens; that we give to them as jews, everything, but as a group, nothing.

 

But unfortunately, that early ambition of the Enlightenment has been frustrated many, many times, and in some respects, utterly betrayed! To the extent where our freedoms are being eroded, and we are being told that we are not adhering to “our terms of service”.

 

So perhaps it’s time for new “terms of service”.

 

Perhaps it’s time for a revisiting of how jews live in European society and among Europeans.

 

Perhaps it’s time that, in terms of the jewish-European relationship, we revised and re-examined those “terms of service”.

 

Thank you for listening.

 

 

[22:55]

 

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[This is the 6th video in the T&T series from The Occidental Observer contributor and scholar Andrew Joyce on the “jewish problem/question“, available at his newly created BitChute channel.

Here Joyce discusses Theodor Emil Fritsch (October 28, 1852 near Leipzig – September 8, 1933), his life and his writings. He goes through each of Fritsch’s “ten commandments” contained in “The Antisemite’s Handbook” evaluating their reasoning and their relevance in today’s world.

Joyce concludes by recommending people to read Fritsch’s,  “The Riddle of the Jew’s Success“, which I have serialized here (see link at end) and is also available to download at archive,org.

Fritsch was a German anti-semite whose views did much to influence popular opposition to Jewish supremacism in Germany during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, right up to his death in 1933, soon after the rise of National Socialism to power.

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T & T No 6:

The Antisemite’s Handbook

 

Aug 11, 2020

 

 

 

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[00:00]

 

 

Jew: Welcome to this call. We have rabbis all across the country committed to passing comprehensive immigration reform, …

 

Jew: Hi! I’m Josh Goldstein. I’m an immigration lawyer in Los Angeles. And I help people and families across the country and around the world get work visas, Green Cards and citizenship.

 

 

Jews: I’m just, … I’m just, … I’m just, … I’m just jewish! I’m just jewish! And these lies about me are nothing but classic hateful, anti-semitism!

 

 

[00:34]

 

[Intro music and imagery]

 

[01:00]

 

Andrew Joyce: Hello and welcome to another episode of Talmud and Taboo!

 

As usual I’d like to begun by saying a very special thank you to those of you that donated via BitCoin after I posted the last episode. It’s much much appreciated. Now I’ve noticed that there are at least, one or two donors who have been consistently donating. And they have really been quite generous indeed. And I want to say a very special thanks to them, because their generosity is the reason why I have been able to a little bit more time and effort to this weeks podcast. It going to be a little bit more in depth. It’s certainly going to be longer than usual. And the reason for that is them. So I hope all of you are grateful for those who are donating.

 

 

I don’t want everyone to donate. I’m not selling a product. I don’t want to get into a position, and I never will get into a position, where this thing gets behind a pay wall, or I ask for subscriptions, or subscribers. It’s not a vision I have for myself. It’s not a vision I have for this podcast. It’s simply never going to happen. But for those of you who do donate I want to say a very special thank you and express my gratitude. And I will always open this podcast that way.

 

 

I was recently contacted by a number of people who are alert to the fact that BitChute looks like it is making baby steps towards maybe falling into line with the “masters of the media”, shall we say. And I also I’m aware that Twitter has already banned the sharing of links from BitChute. It’s kind of weird that all this happened a couple of weeks after I started my podcasts. I’m not getting paranoid about it. But I know that BitChute was in the sights of these influential figures for quite sometime even before I came on the scene. But it is kind of disheartening and depressing, I suppose, because I normally tend to be among are first who are removed from a platform once it goes into this phase.

 

I was one of the first who was banned and then repeatedly banned by Twitter to the point where the platform was just unsustainable for me to just keep trying to get on.

 

 

YouTube as early as 2016 was removing my Red Ice video that had accumulated 60,000 views. And en with really kind of niche very same scale podcasts that attempted to do interviews for, after that it wasn’t long before they were getting banned in Germany and half of Europe and banned completely to the point where it’s very difficult to actual find any of my material on YouTube anymore.

 

So I have my feeling of apprehension about what’s going to happen. I’m trying to not let that distract me right now. If I get removed from BitChute, I will simply find somewhere else and will keep going from there.

 

 

Another little piece of contact I had recently concerned a North Carolinia jew called Michael Brown. Now Brown is a kind of phone-in Christian pastor. I mean, he presents as a Christian, although he admits that he was born jewish. Brown is a fascinating character in that he just kind of a “blast from the past”. He’s a full-blown crypto jew, of the converso type. He literally like, is the type of person that brought about the Inquisition! In that you get this jew who comes into Christian and he makes it his whole life’s work to inculcate White guilt.

 

 

I mean look at some of the titles of some of Brown’s books; “Our Hands are Stained with Blood”! And he has written three, or four, books on Christian anti-semitism. He never shuts up about it. He does a lot of podcasts on it. And he can’t let go of his jewish interests!

 

And he apparently said that he is willing to debate any anti-semite. I actually emailed him, I messaged him via his website a few days ago now, and I haven’t received a response.

 

So, Michael if you are listening to this I am willing to debate you absolutely! I feel like I have credentials that are at least equal to yours and actually probably superior, I would vouch. I would bet that I have read many more texts on jewish history than you have, and certainly have a better and more honest grasp on them. So, I’m just throwing down the gauntlet. If you want to do this thing, if you are serious about debating with an anti-semite, let’s go! Let’s do it!

 

Anyway that is it for introductions.

 

[05:39]

 

Right! Let’s begin!

 

 

It really quite appropriate at this early stage in the podcast series that we turn to the life and work of Theodore Fritsch, who was born in 1852, he dies in September 1933, just months after he witnessed many of his political and cultural theories come to fruition in the ascent to power of the National Socialists.

 

It’s appropriate that we are doing Fritsch, because he essentially picks up where Louis-Mathieu Molé, who we discussed in Episode 4, leaves off. Molé’s failure to conclusively end jewish citizenship during the Grande Sanhedrin, entrenches so-called “jewish emancipation” in European society. The French example, partly, because of political influence, partly cultural, really out across the continent. And we see successive, gradual, mirror image, jewish emancipation across Europe.

 

This is important and, in fact, world changing, because it represents a fundamental transformation of the nature of jewish European relations. Prior to the era of emancipation jews are a powerful financial middleman minority that boasts intensive elite connections but which also have limited cultural control, or influence. There are exceptions to this when we look at the activity of crypto jews, or con-versos who created their own spheres of influence after insincere conversions to Christianity.

 

But really these are exceptions to a rule. After emancipation, to quote Yeats:

 

“Things are changed, changed utterly!”

 

Emancipation opened up European society to jews. Jews are for the first time free to enter into journalism, to become academics, to move through every level of the political system. Their economic activities cease to be seen as those perpetrated by an alien group, and are instead cloaked by citizenship.

 

What is culture? You could offer any number of answers. But one of the most straightforward is that it is a way a people speaks to itself, about itself, about its history, about its dreams, its goals.

 

What happens when you take a foreign people and insert them uncritically into a given culture, is that that culture becomes distorted, it becomes confused. Because essentially you have to conversations going on at the same time. The society becomes schizophrenic.

 

We today are quite used to living in a schizophrenic society, because we live under multiculturalism, where there aren’t just to in conversations going on but multiple. There is a constant clash of interests, there is no common agreement on history, no common dreams. We have no shared goals anymore!

 

The entry of the jews into European culture is novel for two reasons. The first is the simple fact that it interrupts European cultures significantly for the first time. The second is that the entry is total! Europeans whether they are French, or they are German, accept that a jews can become a Frenchman, or a German. And what they have to say, or do, counts for the speech and activity of one of their own.

 

Today we have the meme:

 

“Fellow Whites.”

 

But really it begins right here, here in the early 19th century.

 

A kind of myth emerged in the aftermath of the Second World War that jews had been fully integrated into European society between 1840 and the rise of Hitler. But this isn’t really backed by any significant research.

 

In fact when you look at books like Alfred Low’s, “Jews in the Eyes of the Germans” the central thesis is that jews and Europeans, despite superficialities of emancipation, remain a people apart.

 

 

It wasn’t long after emancipation that problems began to emerge. Some of the more astute members of European society started to notice that when jews enter the national conversation it’s with a radically different orientation and direction.

 

Jewish historians and journalists, like Henrich Grets, looked at the European past, or contemporary politics and denigrated things like tradition and patriotism. Not as jews, of course, but as “Fellow Europeans”! It’s the start of a disharmony in the national conversation. Jews appear to follow a separate trajectory altogether. One that weakens the concept of nationhood in the host population, and helps advance the position of the jews.

 

 

By way of response, Europeans started organizing themselves into anti-semitic political parties and movements with the sole aim of attempting to finish what Molé and started.

 

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Édouard Drumont in France, Wilhelm Marr in Germany, who of course coined the term “anti-semitism”, were at the forefront of the European reaction, with very strong representation also in Hungary.

 

But the electoral performance of these movements was universally mediocre. Even if its propaganda and ethos was quite widespread.

 

 

At this point at the stage where it looks like anti-semitic politics is total we see the fateful entry of Theodore Fritsch into German political life. Fritsch is born into a farming family in 1852. He’s the sixth of seven children and he progresses through the educational system eventually becoming a minor technician, or petty engineer.

 

Fritsch’s origins were relatively humble, but even early on were a source of pride for him. For Fritsch the class of small farmers and craftsmen, and artisans, were the real backbone of Germany, whereas the aristocracy was tainted by corruption and intermarriage with jews, whereas the working class had been tainted by Marxism, whereas the middle class were succumbing to jewish consumerism, Fritsch’s class were, more or less, pure in their spiritual and national orientation. If the folk had a heart, Fritsch was sure it lay in the people that he emerged from.

 

Fritsch progressed rapidly in his career. He moved from someone who worked on printing machines, to someone who ran a company employing such people, to someone who owned many printing machines himself. He eventually moved to Berlin, starts a publishing company, and he becomes a figure of some importance in Berlin’s small business network.

 

This guy wasn’t a nobody! By 1880s he had published both Richard Wagner and Friedrich Nietzsche. At the age of 29 he wrote his first anti-semitic pamphlet. And by 1885 he was the publisher of anti-semitic correspondence, something like the Occidental Observer, or the Occidental Quarterly, which would go on to become one of the longest running anti-semitic journals in history.

 

 

Fritsch disagreed somewhat with of his contemporaries in the anti-semitic political movement, in that he viewed electoral politics as more or less useless if the cultural groundwork hadn’t been laid first. Today, we are all very familiar with Antonio Gramsci and his novel method of cutting Marxism from the roots and setting it free to pervade culture. This is where we get Cultural Marxism from.

 

But I view Fritsch as arguably, as his tactical predecessor as Fritsch believed that the most important political activity was to undermine the jews. And for him that meant creating a kind of “cultural anti-semitism”. Fritsch divorced anti-semitism from traditional religion and the political spectrum, and he designed propaganda that could saturate society. Saturation was key for Fritsch.

 

He had numerous [word unclear] and he wrote propaganda that would appeal to professors and plumbers, farmers and pharmacists. The jewish historian Jacob Katz wrote that:

 

“Fritsch possessed an outstanding talent for propaganda.”

 

He could be articulate on different intellectual levels, adapting his fluent and always striking style to his audience. More clear-sighted than his colleagues, he did not believe that an anti-semitic party would amass significant political power to realize its objectives. He relied rather on the slow but methodical indoctrination of anti-semitic ideas, which he believe and could be absorbed by the adherents of any political party.

 

Basically, if Fritsch was alive today there’s a strong likelihood that he would be “shit-posting” on Twitter, writing for the Occidental Quarterly, sending letters to high society, and even possibly even writing things clandestinely for leftists, anti-zionists and black nationalist groups. He was really that prolific!

 

Unlike many other leaders of the anti-semitic movement, Fritsch claimed that he had no ideology or worldview what-so-ever, other than anti-semitism. It was his sole intellectual concern. And he was prepared to work with anyone, if it advanced his cause of undermining the social, political and economic status of the jews.

 

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Fritsch’s basic argument was that the jews were a destructive element within European culture and that reducing this negative influence was a moral imperative. In his first pamphlet, basically a rhyming poem, he depicted jews as deceitful parasitical creatures that were incapable of reform. In later publications, those aimed at a better educated reading public, he underpinned his thesis with the theory of races.

 

One of his books “Handbook on the Jewish Question” which also had the title “Handbook of Anti-semitism” was essentially a compilation of anti-jewish observations from great thinkers, right down through the ages. Published in 1896, by 1914 it has already run to 36 editions. Thirty six! How many editions do you think it would manage today?

 

In his publications Fritsch expounded on the finer points of his political theories. In particular he felt because jews dominated capital and essentially controlled the media it was more or less futile to fight these forces directly. His primary approach therefore to attack what he called the “Talmudic moral”. Jewish double standards and hypocrisy rooted in the Talmud are what Fritsch perceived to be the Achilles heel of the jews. And he assaulted them repeatedly with his considerable rhetorical skills.

 

Fritsch once wrote:

 

“Yet, Judaism has an enormous weakness, the Talmudic moral. Rabbinism is the Achilles heel of the jewish world dominion, and is only here that the foe can be mortally wounded. Only here can he be ceased at his core and his essence, at the roots of his demonic power.”

 

Despite his appeal to the imagery of demons, Fritsch himself wasn’t especially religious. He was happy for Christianity to continue to play a role in the life of Germans, but a minimal role. And he was very critical of organized religion and the church. Fritsch’s anti-semitism was also expressed in terms of the Old Testament which brought him into conflict with others in the movement who believed that disrespect towards any part of the Bible would weaken their propaganda in the eyes of less sophisticated believers, and especially the rural clergy.

 

But Fritsch also showed some reverence for Christianity, declared it to be non-semitic Ayran character. He once wrote:

 

“Surely Christian teaching arose as a protest of the Ayran spirit against the inhumane jew spirit.”

 

This relatively simple statement paved the way for a broader shift to racial thinking among traditional Christians in Germany. And it was particularly influential on Huston Stewart Chamberlain, whose “Foundations of the 19th Century” was one of the most important anti-semitic texts of the early 20th century.

 

An especially interesting relationship to observe at this time was that between Fritsch and Nietzsche. Today Nietzsche remains for reasons that are never entirely clear to me, in vogue on the far Right, especially with Richard Spencer and his circle. I have quite different views on Nietzsche, especially in him personally as a man. And I differ from this group quite strongly. Spencer and I have had brief conversations about this.

 

Nietzsche’s sister Elizabeth, was of course, married to Bernhard Forster, who was one of the key players in the anti-semitic political movement, and a close friend and associate of Theodore Fritsch. Forster was also a semi-regular contributor to anti-semitic correspondence. Fritsch’s journal. At some point a connection is made and it is hinted that Fritsch should send Nietzsche some copies of anti-semitic correspondence and invite him to join the movement.

 

So Fritsch sends a letter — which is since lost to history — and a few copies of the journal. What Fritsch doesn’t expect is that even though Nietzsche creates this big philosophy of the transcendent superman Nietzsche himself is extraordinarily motivated by the need for fame and fortune!

 

Quite early in his career Nietzsche was alarmed by the way allegations of anti-semitism could taint or damage someone’s career. And he saw this firsthand in his friendship with Richard Wagner, which would later turn sour predominately on the issue of jews. Nietzsche had jewish fan clubs, he had jewish patrons and in a lot of respects I believe jewish sympathies. So when Fritsch approaches him with his journal Nietzsche responds quite bitterly and sarcastically. Essentially saying, and I’m not even paraphrasing much here:

 

“Thanks for sending this stuff because now I know just how much of a muddled mass of thinking it all is. I think your list of so-called great anti-semitic figures are just a bunch of cranks! And don’t send it to me again or I’ll be forced to get even angrier than I’m currently am!”

 

My sympathies in this exchange have always been with Fritsch. Who responds to Nietzsche’s insolence by writing a lengthy review, a negative one, of “Beyond good and Evil” in his journal of anti-semitic correspondence, where he mercilessly ridicules Nietzsche’s philosophy and attacks his intellect.

 

Fritsch argued that Nietzsche had no clue about the nature of the real world and has repudiated moral values which were in fact essential to highlighting jewish hypocrisy and overthrowing jewish influence. After reading the review Nietzsche wrote to a friend that the anti-semitic movement had declared war on him.

 

But rather than go on the attack again, Nietzsche the superman, simple resorts to bullying his sister for marrying one of its members. Fritsch is really disturbed by this episode. In fact his influence is much greater than Nietzsche’s at this stage anyway. While the latter’s philosophy is still struggling for mainstream traction, Fritsch is in the middle of selling his 36th edition of the Handbook of Antisemitism, and he has developed a very popular propaganda technique, something he calls the “Anti-semitic Ten Commandments”.

 

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These ten commandments were essentially the basic rules for living in a world in which jewish influence was strong and a way in which jewish influence could itself be weakened. I think it’s worth going through these ten commandments and try to see if they have any relevance today.

 

So I’ll read them first and then we can discuss.

 

Okay first commandment:

 

“Be proud of being a German and strive earnestly and steadily to practice the inherited virtues of our people. Courage, faithfulness and veracity. And to inspire and develop these in thy children.”

 

2nd commandment:

 

“They shall know that tho with all thy fellow Germans, regardless of faith or creed, have a common and implacable foe. His name is the jew.”

 

3rd commandment:

 

“Tho shall keep though blood pure. Consider it a crime to soil the noble Aryan breed of thy people by mingling with the jewish breed. For thy must know that the jewish blood is everlasting, putting jewish stamp on body and soul lasting until the furthest generations.”

 

4th commandment:

 

“Tho shall be helpful to thy fellow German and further him in all matters, not counter to the German conscience. The more so if he be pressed by the Jew. Though shall at once take into court any offence or crime committed by the jew in deed, word or letter that come to thine knowledge less the jew abuse the laws of our country with impunity.”

 

5th commandment:

 

“Tho shall have no social intercourse with the jew. Avoid all contact and community with the jew. And keep him away from thyself and thy family, especially thy daughters, less they suffer injury of body and soul.”

 

6th commandment:

 

“Tho shall have no business relations with the jews. Never choose a jew as a business partner, nor borrow, nor buy from him. And keep your wife to, from doing. So though shall sell nothing to him or use him as an agent in transaction, that they may remain free, and not become a slave onto the jew, nor help to increase his money which is the power in which he enslaves our people.”

 

Next [7th] commandment:

 

“Tho shall drive the jew from though own breath and take no example from jewish tricks and jewish wiles, for though shall never match the jew in trickery, but forfeit thine honour and earn the contempt of thy fellow German and the punishment of the courts.”

 

Next [8th] commandment:

 

“Tho shall not entrust thy rights to a jewish lawyer, nor thy body to a jewish physician, nor thine children to a jewish teacher, less thine honour, body and soul suffer harm.”

 

9th commandment:

 

“Tho shall not listen nor give credence to the jew. Keep all jewish writings away from thine Germany home and hearth, less their lingering poison may unnerve and corrupt thy self and thy family.”

 

And the 10th commandment:

 

“Tho shall not use violence against the jews because it is unworthy of thy and against the law. But if a jew attacks thy ward off his semitic insolence with German wrath.”

 

Basically of course all these commandments are about creating distance or breathing space between German life and jewish life. It is interesting that Fritsch begins with a call for pride, almost as if the White guilt that we associate with a very modern, especially post-war phenomenon, was in existence in some form even then. And of course it was, in the writings of jews like Heinna [sp] and Grets [sp] who denigrated, satirized the national traditions, or even if it was something queasy into national pride in general.

 

The point that I think is worth making here is that when it comes to anti-semitism there really is nothing new under the sun. Most of what we feel to be ultra modern, post modern, cutting edge, in terms of how jews influence, and how jewish influence is expressed, and challenged, it isn’t new at all, but has actually been rehashed over and over again for every generation. Of all Fritsch’s commandments this is probably my favorite. It asks for a pride rooted in the past and projected into the future. It’s an acknowledgment that we are no isolated beings who happen to be alive solely for ourselves for a set period of time, before we die, but instead a link in a chain, or part of a thread that should lead onwards to some kind of greater destiny. This is beyond a petty pride. This is a transcendent form of knowing on a deep, deep, level who you truly are.

 

The second commandment is essentially a call for racial unity. I don’t know if Fritsch truly felt that the only problem in German life was the jews, although something tells me that he genuinely did believe this. I think it is here that we might start to differ somewhat from Fritsch.

 

There’s little doubt that jewish influence is highly problematic, sometimes devastatingly so. But a century on Fritsch’s writings, we are perhaps a little more cynical and ironic in how we perceive our nationalism, even on the far-Right. I think that many, even in our own circles, would scoff at the idea that if we could just come up with some kind of useful resolutions to the issue of jewish influence then all our problems would magically disappear.

 

Of course, Fritsch didn’t have to contend with the rampant spread of ideologies in his society that we see today. His society was for the most part, apart from jewish cynicism and some elements of degradation, traditional, patriotic, and in possession of some sort of vision of national destiny.

 

Today semitism isn’t invested solely in the jewish population — this is my opinion — but it is probably mainstream, both in commercialism and consumerism, in fashions of all descriptions in political ideologies, from the radical Left, right the way through to what we see today that calls itself “conservatism“.

 

Exactly how to approach a cultural rot as widespread as with see today is something that Fritsch didn’t have to consider. And I think it’s doubtful if his approach and solutions would work today, in as a clear cut a manner as he envisaged for his own time.

 

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The 3rd commandment relating to purity of blood is also dated in a nuanced way. Here Fritsch refers to miscegenation only from the perspective of Jews. I actually sympathize with his point here, because of my own personal experience with some of the most virulent semitism that I have seen that has come from half Jews, or those with partial Jewish ancestry.

 

About four years ago I interviewed two Jews for a Radix piece titled “The Jewish Question and some Answers” one of people I interviewed called himself “Reactionary jew” on Twitter and was a full Jew from a very orthodox background. The other guy who called himself “The Rebbe” was a half Jew. And of the two it was actually the Rebbe who was the most aggressive both in asserting his jewish identity, and in terms of any personal interaction that he had with me, he was unblinkingly hostile, or at least I got that impression.

 

Reactionary jew was more relaxed in his identity and considerably more honest about the nature of Jewish influence, Jewish history. He had previously had been in communication with Kevin MacDonald. And I could see that there was potential for a civil discussion of nothing else.

 

Reactionary jew later got spooked by a third party who discovered his identity and scared of being doxxed to his community would destroy him completely and ruin a marriage that was in the pipeline. He disappeared less than a year later. He didn’t know it at the time but he actually left his micro data including his name, his real name, in the answers he submitted to me for the Radix piece. So I could have doxxed him myself. But that is not how I want to play the game. So I deleted the doc and waited for time to basically to wipe his real name from my memory, and now I really can’t remember it!

 

But the point of me telling uts is that sometimes the nature of the Jewish blood will suprise you. And sometimes it is in fact in the mixing of peoples that produces the most troublesome results.

 

Ashkenazi Jews of course have a not insignificant percent of European matrilineal DNA, meaning most of them are some sort of ethnic mix to begin with. How this exactly effects this affects the mentality of jews is something which would require study in itself. But I think that the basic premise of Fritsch that these races should remain apart I’d healthy and rational. Where it becomes somewhat dated is of course in the fact that we now live in multicultural societies where miscegenation is not only the norm, but is actively preached as part of globalist dogma.

 

Who though could argue with the material and spiritual benifits and “keep thy blood pure”?

 

The 4th commandment about helping ones kinsmen in pursuing Jewish wrongs through the courts is also very interesting. Really the crafty Fritsch is trying to squeeze two commandments into one here.

 

Who could argue with helping ones kinsmen? I often wonder of we help each other enough in this movement. In some ways of course we are prevented from doing so with real world activity limited, it’s not so easy to offer material or emotional support to our comrades. We are limited in a lot of ways to the rhetorical. And in the broader racial picture I think there’s little question that in-group philanthropy in non-Whites [Whites?] has declined. Wasn’t it Ed Dutton who argued that as multiculturalism takes hold in a society suspicion of potential traitors increases. Why help someone who could be helping an outsider?

 

So Fritsch’s call for universal aid to one another is much more complicated today. We are an infinitely more fractured people and so many have thrown themselves on to the multicultural band wagon, the separating the wheat from the chaff seems almost impossible.

 

Taking the Jews through the courts is an interesting proposal. Fritsch himself was jailed twice for a contemporary version of “hate speech”. And I suspect courts held a special, and not particularly pleasant, place in his psyche. Even in Fritsch’s day though this aspect of the commandment didn’t really mean much. Yes, Jewish criminals were prosecuted, but isn’t it in the nature of jewish influence that so much of what has been harmful has occurred in the blurred lines between the legal and illegal?

 

Has George Soros, or Sheldon Adelson, or Mosche Kantor committed any crimes? No! We can argue until we are blue in the face that they have committed crimes against our people, but the truth is that they have engaged in a harm without breaking existing laws!

 

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Now there may have been financial conduct by this or by that elite jew or jewish group, but the misconduct itself not what gives jewish influence culturally significant harmful aspect we often describe. And you are probably thinking:

 

“What are you trying to say here Joyce?”

 

Well I’m saying that without reversion of the law taking individual jews through the courts won’t accomplish anything. Much more significant would be laws that break up bodies like the ADL and then disrupt the culturally harmful activities that we are all familiar with. Only then will the courts be able to provide anything like a helpful function.

 

The next commandment:

 

“Have no social intercourse with jews and keep your family away from them, especially your daughters.”

 

Should really also undergo a slight revision today. How many Europeans interact with jews on a daily basis? Relatively few. Certainly far fewer than in Fritschs day. This could probably today be considered an American issue, since the United States is where most jews maintain their largest social presence outside Israel. Do I think that most people are likely to be harmed by their personal interactions with jews? When you see what happened to those that came into the circle of Jeffery Epstein and Ghilaine Maxwell, it’s hard to disagree.

 

But I don’t think that personal interactions contain as much as life or death quality that Fritsch implied. Perhaps he’s right and I’m wrong. All I can say is that in my own personal interactions with jews which have been relatively brief but quite large in number I haven’t felt personally harmed.

 

The harm I’ve always felt occurs predominately on the cultural, political and economic, rather than the social. You can have a perfectly civilized conversation with a used car salesman who won’t harm you personally, but might economically pick your pocket. Does this mean I should all go out and befriend a jew or two? No! Of course not! But it does mean that I think the personal fear implied in Fritsch’s commandment is for the most part a hindrance, rather than a help to clear thinking.

 

We should move on then to the commandment about having no business dealings with jews. Here again we have to confront the inarguable core of the commandment while providing with some contemporary nuance. Fritsch was writing before the days of Amazon like corporations. Jewish finance and banking was quite extensive and jewish consumerism in the form of department stores was beginning to take off. But it was possible to live economically separate from jews if you set your mind to it. It was possible as we know from the National Socialist period to boycott jewish businesses.

 

Look! Such interactions had the potential to be harmful and still do. A friend of mine established a business several years ago in fishing supplies, which included the manufacture of flys. In order to make one particular set of flys he required a particular fur. And one of his contacts was a jewish fur merchant in England. My friend who is aware of my position on the jews, but does not himself share all my conclusions nevertheless would regularly inform me about how his trading was going with this particular English jew. I was always entertained but these stories because it was the stereotypical story of over charging, interest, poor quality goods in general, bad faith. Apparently a sucker for punishment my friend continues to trade with his favorite son of Moses.

 

But how practical or profitable to avoid jewish business in the age of global capital today? How many of you haven’t heard of Calvin Klein , Levi Strauss, Ralph Lauren, Michael Cores, Kenneth Corrs, Max Factor, Estée Lauder, Marc Jacobs, Starbucks, [word unclear], The Gap, American Apparel, Costco, Staples, Home Depo, Ben & Jerry’s, Snapple, Häagen-Dazs, Dunkin Donnuts, Monster Beverages, Mattel, Toys R Us, … Or how about Facebook, Craig’s List, I could go on and on and on!

 

Waste collection in many Irish towns and cities is now carried out by jewish hedge fund. Paul Singer’s hedge fund is trying to acquire Twitter. Britain’s biggest book stores are owned by a jewish hedge fund. It’s in the nature of modern international global capital that jewish businesses are everywhere here, and is unavoidable without reducing yourself to a homeless peasant, where you will be free but totally unable to change anything about the society you have left behind.

 

All of this goes to show that when it comes to the jews, nothing is new under the sun. But these things can become worse, and they have worsened, and will therefore acquire more sophisticated solutions.

 

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Equally interesting is Fritsch’s admonition not to imitate Jewish tactics. He argues that Whites can never imitate Jews in what he calls “trickery”. I think it’s sensible advice in one sense because methodologies that aren’t instinctive to us probably become liabilities fairly quick.

 

On the other hand if you read Kevin MacDonald’s “Separation and Its Discontents” mirror image strategies tend to work very well against jewish ethnocentrism. MacDonald devotes a lot of the book to placing National Socialism in this light. And if you haven’t read it, I urge you to do. So the simple fact that high levels of ethnocentrism and certain methodologies for obtaining influences are part of that, tend to be very effective.

 

This is something reinforced in Ed Dutton’s “Race Differences and Ethnocentrism” where Dutton makes the argument that ethnocentric groups will always win in the end against groups in which ethnocentrism is low. There isn’t really any way to improve our situation that involves Whites continuing along with individualism and social atomization.

 

So while I understand and sympathize with Fritsch’s demand that we don’t compromise our moral identity and ethical standards, I think that circumstance will force us to adapt new ways that we don’t want to, and to undertake efforts that we would rather not. The question is simple. How much do you want to win?

 

Fritsch’s commandment on not using jewish lawyers, doctors, or teachers arise from his general hostility to the entry of jews into the professions in the wake of emancipation. Fritsch believed that Jewish entry into the professions marked the beginning jewish cultural interference. And he felt that a boycott of jewish professionals would starve them of their influence inherent in these positions. I think that there are different levels and textures of influence.

 

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I think that there are different levels and textures of influence in each of the positions. Fritsch describes jewish entry into the law in one of his books as bringing about a fundamental change in the way the law works and the purpose for which it worked.

 

Certainly there were many jewish and folkish thinkers who argued that the law must always embody the spirit of the people you need it and it should serve the community. They argued that jewish lawyers and judges on the other hand were perceived the whole legal structure as simply involving contests where the only objective was to win. For jews there was simple no importance to the wider nation.

 

And on top of this jewish influence in criminal law had resulted in the introduction of jewish psychological theories, from Freud and Adler into the legal discourse. Something that was felt again to represent a perversion of the once natural state of German law.

 

Fritsch’s ideas on teachers and physicians followed more or less the same logic. That these positions were vital to the national conversation and the national spirit and quite apart from the specific texture of the jews themselves it was unwise to have any outsider participation. It’s this basic and essential ethos that I find quite resonant.

 

Today our professional life is essentially multicultural. Our laws are increasingly losing perspective and logic and are used against us instead of in order to help us. Our teachers are filling our children’s heads with harmful ideologies, our doctors are indulging the fantasy of transgenderism and the terrible stain of mass abortion. Our professional class has departed from the natural order.

 

And Fritsch’s commandment here is essentially a call for the natural order. That a people should direct its own conversation and perform its own essential functions. Sharing these functions with outsiders is always going to be a recipe for disaster and confusion.

 

The same theme is repeated I suppose in the 9th commandment, “Keep from jewish writings”. We again come back to this issue of jewish participation in what should be a racial, national conversation. It’s about reclaiming direction and destiny without outsiders pretending to be insiders.

 

One of the greater challenges we face compared with the situation presented to Fritsch is that jewish writings aren’t so nearly so neatly packaged and contained anymore. Fritsch might have had to deal with a few jewish newspapers and some hostile journalists. He might have had beef with Heinna or Grets, with their caustic writings on German patriotism. But he didn’t really have to contend with a society in which these writings had gone absolutely mainstream! Getting replicated over and over again by Whites, by blacks, by Pakistanis, or Hispanics.

 

In a Googleist world saturated by propaganda from all angles shot through with mass migrations from all over the world, and where the dissolution of the national community is simply everywhere! Where do jewish writings begun and end? Is banning or boycotting books going to save us in the age of big Tech and Globohomo? I really don’t know, although I have my doubts.

 

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Much like Fritsch’s warning about personal contact with individual jews I think he invests too much fear in the smaller picture and not enough awareness of the need for action on a grander scale. The age of global politics and economics will surely require global solutions.

 

Fritsch’s final commandment is measured in [word unclear]. Fritsch was all to aware that jews ultimately benefit from a historical narrative in which they are victims. Even before World War Two jews derived a lot of political sympathy and capital for the Russian pogroms! Which were themselves in large part according to the work of the Oxford scholar, John Klier, utterly fictional!

 

So violence throughout time, whether it’s been real or imagined, has served to reinforce jewish ethnocentrism and it provides it with a rationale, and it enables in many respects many of judaisms most pathological behaviors.

 

And Fritsch is right to discourage the violence. And he is equally right to defend the right to self defense. If you are politically harmed you have the right to retaliate politically, and so on with economics. And then the other sphere in which your rights and personal integrity are being infringed upon.

 

So where does that leave us in terms of Theodore Fritsch, in terms of his legacy today? I personally have an affinity for Fritsch. I see him as a tough guy. I see him as a guy that faced overwhelming odds and backed down from a fight. I see him, his exchange with Nietzsche and as I say, I have his back on that. I think that he wasn’t fazed by the pretentiousness of intellectuals. I think he was single minded. I think that even faced with overwhelming odds he was always willing to rise to a challenge and really give it everything that he has got!

 

I think that Fritsch was also an incredibly talented man who was responsible for energizing people around him, who was constantly innovating techniques. Who was completely tireless in terms of how he pursued his goal. I mean I think even his enemies at the time, and certainly his enemies in modern times, now, in our own day and age. I quoted from the historian Katz there. You can’t help but look at what he’s doing and say:

 

“He was almost a force of nature!”

 

And in his prolific writings, and his networking I just think there is a lot there that we should to emulate, even if we don’t try to emulate exactly his work, just that drive I think is something that we should all look at and learn from. I think that someone like Fritsch deserves a place in our popular memory.

 

I think it’s a shame that most of you who are probably listening to this podcast right now will not have heard of from before in your life! And yet he is absolutely crucial! I mean I remember coming through high school and college and being told in lectures and in textbooks that the National Socialists derived a lot of their ideologies and so forth from Nietzsche. And that Nietzsche’s vision of the uberman and everything was the template upon which they built their self image. I have a very different view on that. I mean as I say I think that you can subtract Nietzsche from the equation and you still get the National Socialists, but if you subtracted Fritsch from history I’m not so sure that you would get the National Socialists, or indeed any of the kind of resurgent anti-semitism that comes from the late 19th century or the 20th century. I just don’t see that happening.

 

I think that he was that much of a force of nature. He was that innovative in his propaganda. He was that good at networking and creating a kind of drive even among those that he worked with. It’s interesting that in his first kind of revival not to long after he died actually, the National Socialists came up with the idea that they would put up statues commemorating really famous anti-semites from the past.

 

And of all the people within Germany history the first person they choose to build a statue for was Theodore Fritsch! One of the kind of quirks of history is that in 1943, I think it was, the armament shortage in Germany was so ferocious that they had to melt down really any metals that they can get their hands on. So poor old Fritsch was taken off his plinth. He was taken off to be smelted down and reworked into firearms, … They probably got a few rifles out of old Fritsch, which were then sent off to the Eastern Front! I don’t think Fritsch would have minded. I think that if someone told him:

 

“We’re going to melt down your statue to make rifles to go and shoot down judeo-bolsheviks!”

 

He probably would have been quite cheerful about that! That was the nature of the man.

 

But that was his first real ha-rah, and really since the end of the Second World War Fritsch has more or less dropped down the memory hole, much like our friend Louis-Mathieu Molé that we discussed in episode four.

 

So one of the things with this podcast series was to start to bring back some of the history, some of the ideological or intellectual fore bearers of some of the things that we are doing today.

 

I mean a lot of people I meet would think that anti-semitism was invented by Kevin MacDonald! The reading just doesn’t go back that far into history. But I think it’s worth digging into the history. I think it’s worth revisiting these things and taking out what is useful. Well you might say:

 

“What is useful then, Joyce, about Fritsch’s work?”

 

Well I think it is the basic drive, it’s the basic philosophy, it’s the basic gut instinct, the basic feeling that underpins all of Fritsch’s writings. I’ve included a link below to a free copy, it’s available in archive dot org, to “The Riddle of the jews Success” which is a 1927 English translation of one of Fritsch’s full length books, and I think it’s worth reading.

 

 

In some respects as you have probably guessed from this podcast, there will be elements of it which are dated and which don’t marry up completely with our contemporary experience. But I think there will be so much that you can learn from it. So much that you can, that will flesh out your broader understanding of this thing over a broader historical time.

 

And I think it’s always worth just revisiting the past, and you can take comfort from that as well, knowing that others, at other times, have faced overwhelming odds and in their own way have achieved small or large victories.

 

So I will leave you with Theodore Fritsch, and down load his book. Go and sit on the subway, bring it up on your tablet, make sure someone besides you see what you are reading, and be controversial!

 

And I will catch you next time! Thanks for listening.

 

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COMMENTS

 

Pierre_de_Craon • 3 days ago

The comment threads from all earlier episodes have disappeared within the past two hours. If this was deliberate, I hope that it was Andrew Joyce, not the Masters of the Narrative, who deleted them.

JannikT • 4 days ago

This was a brilliant and thought provoking episode.

katana17 • 5 days ago

Andrew Joyce – T&T 6 – The Antisemite’s Handbook – Aug 11, 2020 — Transcript

https://katana17.com/wp/202…

Here Joyce discusses Theodor Emil Fritsch (October 28, 1852 near Leipzig – September 8, 1933), his life and his books including, “The Riddle of the Jew’s Success”.

[NOTE: This transcript is in progress. Please help out by volunteering to do a few minutes. Thanks]

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soulog • 6 days ago

Haha the Dr Brown Inquisition shout👌

Raziel • 6 days ago

So i seen in Easons bookstore recently a book called .. Frenzy and Betrayal : The Anatomy of a Political Assassination. By Alan Shatter. Im curious to know if you have read it Dr.Joyce ?

Raziel • 6 days ago

Hail to you Dr. Joyce for speaking truth. I hope you have discussions with others, maybe Adam Green from Know more news ? He talks alot about the J’ish problem in the USA. Would like to see you on Mark Colletts show aswell (He has moved away from Youtube and onto DLive now), Perhaps you would speak with Jason Khöne/No white guilt on his and Jared George’s show called Tap. I feel more and more people Need to hear, read, see your work Dr.Joyce. May your good work continue and be spread out and hopefully educate European people to what is really going on, to what has been happening to and continues to happen to European people by this certain.. tribe

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Holocost Survivor • 6 days ago

The esteemed Dr. Andrew Joyce has taken Brown up on this call for debate in his podcast, yet he has have failed to respond.
https://www.bitchute.com/vi…
It is truly cringe that this man would dodge this worthy representative of what he would call an “anti-semitic” ideology

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KeepTheChange • 6 days ago

Great video … I really appreciate your thoughtful and learned approach to these matters. I’m currently reading “The Riddle of Jew Success” and I have to wonder that since that book was written about 100 years ago, how much further along have we traveled on this timeline toward a total Jewish control of our society? I had this same thought when I was browsing a book written by Henry Ford, who was critical of the Jews. My fear is that we’ve long since crossed the Rubicon and we have no idea how complete the societal control is, i.e., we’re like a frog being boiled and we don’t realize that we’re at 98 degrees celsius. Thanks again for your hard work.

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Prussian Blue • 6 days ago

11:30 “If the folk had a heart, Fritz was sure it lay in the people he emerged from.”
Thats very eerily similar to Orwell/Winston’s line that the hope lies in the proles.

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Prussian Blue • 6 days ago

I’ve seen Brown before I was keen to the JQ. Definite crypto jew.

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Prussian Blue • 6 days ago

Fuckin love the intro.

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Dr.Shekelstein • 7 days ago • edited

Is that a ballymena accent Dr Joyce hey!

elstein • 7 days ago

“And then one day for absolutely no reason, an Austrian painter began to hate them”.

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theboiler • 7 days ago

Don’t worry we don’t think you are a Paul Joseph Watson…

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Otternal theboiler • 6 days ago • edited

Beaver: ‘I must build dams’.
New born turtle: ‘I must find an ocean’.
Migratory bird: ‘I must fly south for winter’.
Small hat wearer: ‘I must subvert my host people’.
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Earthenware • 7 days ago

“Global solutions”

I disagree with your point here. You’re the expert of course, but it sounds to me as though Fritsch was trying to create a set of general guidelines which should inform daily decisions. A sort of ethnic US Constitution, if you will.

Fritsch would have been aware of the need for global solutions (which was just as great then as now – Jews were internationally pervasive), so I don’t think it’s accurate to suggest that his emphasis on the individual rather than the global is inappropriate for the modern world.

It’s a bit like saying “your individual actions will always have a minor impact, so concentrate only on the global”. It confuses the micro with the macro, when each is actually equally valid.

Sorry to be picky, I’m a bit autistic 🙂

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nopinkcreations • 7 days ago

There is but one solution…

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Not_A_Piano_Key • 7 days ago • edited

As a person who loves studying history and has only fairly recently become “woke” to the JQ (“Counter-Kosher,” as I have amusingly heard it called), I really enjoy these historical and biographical streams you do. This is totally (and unsurprisingly) new stuff for me to learn about.

In speaking of history, what are your thoughts on Martin Luther and his book “On the Jews and their Lies?” As a Catholic, I’m sure most of what I have heard and read on Luther is extremely skewed and biased. Many people say he only became anti-Semitic when German Jews refused to become Protestant. I have also heard that, as he was translating the Bible to German, he researched the Talmud and was horrified by what he read. Are they both somewhat true?
Anyway, thanks again for the great content, Dr. Joyce. I sincerely hope Dr. Brown takes you up on that debate. It would be quite entertaining!

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Pierre_de_Craon Not_A_Piano_Key • 3 days ago

“As a Catholic, I’m sure most of what I have heard and read on Luther is extremely skewed and biased.”

How Catholic are you, really? I ask because if you had read any formal theology written in the past fifty years or even read any of the hundreds of pseudo- or quasi-academic articles in the soi-disant mainstream Catholic journals over the same period, you would be aware that post-Vatican II, the conciliar establishment’s attitude toward Luther has gone so far from being censorious that at the ceremony marking the 500th anniversary of the posting of the 95 theses on the church door in Wittenberg, Pope Francis declared Luther a great reformer. He described him as an intelligent man who was protesting corruption, worldliness, greed, and lust for power in the church.

The problem within the governing hierarchy of the Catholic Church is not biased hostility to a great reformer but scandalous apostasy from the Faith that they are charged by God with proclaiming and defending.
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OccidentalJoyce Not_A_Piano_Key • 6 days ago

I’m very ambivalent about Luther who often turned personal issues into theological or political ones. What you’ve said about him here is accurate. There’s a phenomenon of something I call “insincere antisemitism.” I think it emerges in Luther. I’m going to podcast on the subject at some stage so stay tuned!
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Brundlepodfly • 7 days ago • edited

Jews own 50% of Premier League Clubs.

https://postimg.cc/YhQnyz1f

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Neal_Kiggers • 7 days ago

6ft of semitic distancing.

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Prussian Blue Neal_Kiggers • 6 days ago

666cm.
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Neal_Kiggers • 7 days ago

michael brown is a lying, disgusting scumbag. even some christians call him the Apostle of Obfuscation. i would love to hear that debate if you can make it happen. he thinks being nice to his opponents covers over a multitude of sins and he’ll do his best to avoid addressing the points of contention straight on.

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Obtinuit • 7 days ago

Big respect to folk who donated to this highly intelligent man willing to speak truth to power.

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hearts-horses • 7 days ago

I found this article about Nietzsche and after listening to this I think that it holds a lot of truth. https://highexistence.com/a… This is the first time I have listened to you and I must say I am very interested in listening to the rest of your work.I have heard of Fritsch but that is because I have been studying the history of the National Socialists and Hitler and this has added to my knowledge base.Thanx

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JMasefield • 7 days ago

You are quite right about multicultural society being schizophrenic. Decades ago the feeling was one of ease and rightness and even desiring and then gradually appreciating that feeling of ease was denigrated. It is that feeling of ease when you are amongst your family members compared to with strangers. We are told it is wrong of us not to feel ease amongst strangers, that no one is a stranger and so on. We are definitely psychologically unhealthy.

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2020deusvult • 7 days ago

thanks as always for another great episode of talmud and taboo.
I was just wondering if you had seen the bitchute video , “the history of blood libel” and if so what were your thoughts on it..
the work you are doing is incredibly important , I hope that when we are finally free of the curse that lives among us you will be rightfully honoured for your efforts.

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OccidentalJoyce 2020deusvult • 7 days ago

I haven’t watched it, but will try to do so later. I’ll let you know what I think.
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2020deusvult OccidentalJoyce • 7 days ago

great , thanks for the reply.
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katana17 • 7 days ago

I’ve serialized the book in 17 parts beginning here:

THE RIDDLE OF THE JEW’S SUCCESS
https://katana17.com/wp/201…

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OccidentalJoyce katana17 • 7 days ago

Well done. It’s fairly rare online. I don’t think it’s as good as Belloc’s 1922 book but it’s up there.
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katana OccidentalJoyce • 6 days ago

Thanks. I liked Fritsch’s Riddle book for how he systematically goes through all the areas of life that jews have a baneful effect on for the typical German. I also have Belloc’s book, so I’ll give that a try.

Off the top of your head, what would be the best books that you would recommend to get a good grasp of the “problem”. It could also make a good topic for a podcast.
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OccidentalJoyce katana • 6 days ago

I actually wrote a three part essay for the Occidental Observer a few years ago on this. I think it’s titled “The Jewish Question: Suggested Readings with Commentary.” Hope that helps! For me, Belloc is a personal favorite. I wrote a three part review for Too so maybe read that first as a primer?
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DieSchwarzeSonne • 7 days ago

One of the people I was following on Bitchute had his comments Shoahed (Disqus, I assume) and so he moved to LBRY.TV You’re one of those people who I’ll follow wherever they go. Do you have a GAB.AI account?

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OccidentalJoyce DieSchwarzeSonne • 7 days ago

I did try Gab when I was first banned from Twitter, but found its interface to be very poor quality. Maybe they’ve improved since then. Unfortunately, one of the problems with Alt Tech is an issue of quality and usability. Everything tends to be slower, clunkier, and less attractive overall. I still think we are waiting for that big alternative to Twitter/Facebook that won’t put us in an echo chamber.
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[This is the 2nd podcast (although labelled as No. 1) in a series from The Occidental Observer contributor and scholar Andrew Joyce on the “jewish problem/question“, with the series re-titled as “T & T” (“Talmud and Taboo“), and available at his newly created BitChute channel.

In this podcast he discusses his Twitter based “Skype Directory” project that catalogued jewish activists with brief bios and descriptions of their work. This was eventually taken down by jews as it shone a light on their negative activities as jews and as a group.

He then goes on to discuss the long-term efforts of leading jewish activists, such as billionaire Moshe Kantor, to criminalize worldwide of all and any criticism of jews and their agenda  of multiculturalism, under the pretext of “tolerance“.  A jewish tyranny, imposing total censorship as their goal, in other words.

 

— KATANA]

 

Andrew Joyce’s Podcast

 

T & T No: 1

The Skype Directory

 

July 15, 2020

 

 

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Well, well well! I had predicted 24 hours on Spreaker, we actually managed 48! Which I’m going to chalk up as a small victory!

 

 

And in any case here we are now at BitChute. This is I hope going to the permanent home for the podcasts, which I’m going to rename “T & T”, an abbreviation of “Talmud and Taboo”. And hopefully this will be dynamite!

 

So here we go.

 

With all the recent internet censorship and different things going on around that, it took me back to a little project of mine from late 2015, early 2016, on Twitter. Some of you might have heard about it. It was the “Skype Directory”. Now at the time, late 2015, early 2016 this was the heyday of the alt-Right. Every thing was high energy, every thing was funny! It was a great time to be alive. It was a great time to be part of the whole alt-Right scene. It looked like every thing that we touched turned to gold. It was fantastic!

 

And one of the humorous memes that took off at that time was this business of “Skype” and “Google”. For some context, while the banning of people and groups had not yet started there were some censorship of words, what was perceived as coded words. So some big-brained person on 4chan, or something like that, decided that it would be a good idea if we started using Skype and Google as code words for jews and blacks. And if they wanted to censor this references, “Google” and “Skype” and so on, would basically be censoring references to themselves.

 

So I don’t think that tactic actually worked in the end but it was funny for a while to start referring to jews as “Skypes” and blacks as “Googles”.

 

So the “Skype Directory” was basically a list of Skypes! It was a list of jews, jewish activists who at some point in their careers had tweeted, written, or otherwise broadcast a view that was absolutely anti-White. So it was promoting mass immigration, pornography, something along those lines. Censorship, whatever it would be.

 

And the idea was really simple. I would post an image of the Jewish person. I would post a screenshot of whatever they had written, or a reference to whatever they had written. And in the little text section that Twitter allows I would just write their name and the briefest of bios. So if they were affiliated to a university I would write which university they were attached to. And that was it! There were no pejoratives, no racial slurs, no additional commentary. Nothing inciteful, nothing that could be construed as hate, … Just nothing, absolutely no additional commentary what so ever. People were left to make up their own minds.

 

And at the top of the account I had a header image which said:

 

“Jews Rock.”

 

It was a screencap from the “Million Dollar Extreme” music video, “Jews Rock”, if you remember that. Also the whole page was non-offensive. It was just a collection of jews who had undertaken activities which they themselves had been promoting as positives. So you could have construed as a catalogue of jewish achievements on behalf of Western Civilization. Or at least this is how they have been portraying their activities.

 

But very very quickly it was flagged up as anti-semitic! Why was it flagged up as anti-semitic? It was flagged up as anti-semitic because although there’s not really a guilty conscience at play in Jewish activism, there is an awareness, there’s a keen self-awareness of the fact that what they are doing is wrong! Is that it definitely carries negative implications for Whites.

 

So while jews are very, very comfortable when they are diffuse through the culture. For example acting simply as an academic at a particular university, or as a journalist at this newspaper, or as a politician with this party. When their activism is diffuse and they don’t have to bear the burden of their ethnic affiliations, they are absolutely rabid in the promotion of this stuff. And they are really gung-ho, and they are really, this is what Western Civilization needs, this is absolutely positive, this is progress, and so on, and so on.

 

But when someone like me comes along, and I see what is going on and what I chose to do is I want to distill all this activism and concentrate it and bring in under one umbrella and look at it for what it is, that sends alarm bells going! Because, then you’re pulling back the curtain of the fierce nature of this activity. And you are looking at it for what it actually is, ethnic activism. And that scares the life out of jews who crave anonymity, or semi-anonymity.

 

You know, I think he’s dead now, but there was a Polish sociologist called Zygmunt Bauman, a Polish jew, who was an academic, I think, at Leeds university in England. And he coined the term “allosemitism”.

 

 

What’s allosemitism? Allosemitism is any view that jews are special. Bauman was quite suspicious of Christian Zionism, for example. He was suspicious of any perception, even if they are positive perceptions, really overtly, ridiculously exaggerated perceptions of jews, even in a positive light, because he viewed any perception of jews as being out of the ordinary, as being something worthy of jewish concern.

 

So allosemitism is the view that jews somehow stand apart in any way. And the importance of allosemitism as a concept is that it is deeply ingrained in terms of a fear response within jews. And it’s the fear of being seen as a jew, and for ones actions as being seen as jewish actions.

 

Jews, of course, the one exception to this rule is when jews can appeal to a certain concept of jewish victim-hood. But that concept even in itself has to be really extreme.

 

And one finds that jews rarely claim to be sort of moderate victims of society, in any way. It is to go to the extreme!

 

So when you, this jewish privilege hash tag which recently trended on Twitter, where initially it was from our movement, and it was a provocation to examine the reality of jewish privilege. When jews co-opted the hash tag and started to use it to promote victim-hood narratives, it wasn’t:

 

“Oh we have suffered in the past.”

 

It wasn’t anodyne bland stuff. People were talking about relatives being tortured, or castrated by Joseph Mengele, and so on, at Auschwitz. They went for the most extreme anecdotes! And it always has to be the most extreme, in order to justify any departure from the concept of allosemitism, in order to make Jews feel comfortable in that sense.

 

[Image] Joseph Mengele (center) in happier times.

 

 

So the instinct is always to dissolve to the background. To act with the greatest ferocity and intensity, but always where possible to fade into the background and hope not to be noticed.

 

So that is the tipping point here, that is the axis upon which much of the Jewish Question pivots. And Skype Directory disrupted all of this, and it concentrated Jewish bios in one place. And while there was no additional commentary to these profiles there was no need for additional commentary. It spoke for itself. Which again, was extremely terrifying to jews.

 

So the account was shutdown with very little fanfare and it was hoped that I would disappear. A few days after the account was deactivated, or whatever it was, suspended. Whenever that happened, unbeknownst to me, but a follower of the account had actually been extracting all of the profiles and he created a website, just a basic WordPress website called “Jews in Western Society” or something or other. “Jews in 20th Century Western Society”. And he just re-posted screenshots of all of the profiles.

 

 

Well, The Forward, about two days after that tried to find out who had created this account — I don’t think they were successful — but they were successful in having WordPress [Yola, actually] remove the website altogether. And they published an article in The Forward which, the headline was something like “Neo-Nazis Create Hitler-List of Jews”!

 

 

And it wasn’t a hit-list. It was never intended as a hit-list. It clearly wasn’t a hit-list. But the fact it was perceived as such by jews in shear terror at the simple fact the someone had just collected all of these supposedly beneficial pieces of activism and writings, and different things, brought all into one place, that was terrifying to them! Absolutely terrifying!

 

 

And to this day I’m really glad that I operated that project, because I learned a lot. And I think a lot of people who were involved in following the account and seeing how it came to an end and afterwards. And I hope this applies to some normies at the time also. That if there were any doubt how jews actually view their activism, this should have removed all doubt.

 

 

It should have revealed, as I said, that while there isn’t necessarily a guilty conscience here, there is most definitely a self awareness that what they are doing is negative. That it can be perceived as negative because it is negative!

 

And when Jews engage in this kind of stuff, they don’t care that it’s negative! All they care about is the it’s effective, and that they don’t get noticed for doing it.

 

So, with all the banning and every thing going on at the minute, it stirred up a lot of that stuff in my mind. And of course my most recent articles at The Occidental Observer concerns the process that is ongoing, and has been ongoing in immediate terms since 2011, to get control over the internet. Which is the only thing really at the minute within culture that has the potential to bring widespread attention to the ethnic nature of this activism.

 

[Image] “Secure Tolerance”: The Jewish Plan to Permanently Silence the West, Part 1 

 

And to disrupt the hidden nature of all of this diffuse activism which is here, and it’s there, it’s in journalism, and it’s in politics, it’s in academia, it’s in the media! And it’s everywhere, yet somehow it’s nowhere because it can’t be seen, because it’s not being dragged kicking and screaming into the light.

 

And when you have Twitter accounts like the guy Cursed Salad [@cursedsalad], or you’ve got Twitter accounts like Keith Woods, or others, who are posting regularly on this topic and are posting information, again without much additional commentary, without pejoratives and racial slurs, this stuff has to be shut down!

 

Any excess of allosemitism, of looking at jews as jews, needs to be shut off! It needs to be closed down. It’s too dangerous! We don’t want attention to be drawn to these wonderful things supposedly that are being done by Jews.

 

This is where we are in the culture right now. And this process that really started in 2011 with Moshe Kantor’s “Manifesto for Secure Tolerance”, this process of step by step, incremental steps towards what really is total censorship! Because this doesn’t end, as I explore in the article, it doesn’t end with just being kicked off a social media platform.

 

It’s not going to end when your internet service provider, or your web host, shuts down your website, that is not where this ends! That isn’t the end goal here! The end goal is the kind of opinions and views that you have will be declared illegal! The end goal is that when you want to point out:

 

“Hey wait a minute! I’ve noticed that this group of people who are protesting and pushing for all of these different measures to be introduced, which are harming my ethnic interests, and those of my children, and their children, I’ve noticed that all these people are jews!”

 

Well, under the current process of incremental steps toward is total censorship the goal there is that you are going to prison for saying that!

 

The end goal here is that you are going to do serious prison time!

 

Because it’s going to be treated as an aggravated offense! It’s going to be treated as a matter of the grossest criminal conduct, along with molesting children, or terrorism!

 

Those opinions that you have, that ability that you have to actually look behind the curtain and see these things, that is going to be criminalized!

 

And if you think that because you are in the United States and you have got your Constitution, and you have got your Bill of Rights, that your freedom of speech is going to be there forever, you need to wake up! You need to wake up because it’s there in black and white that these proposals are meant to go throughout the West. There will be no exceptions! They will be imposed throughout the West!

 

It’s going to start in the EU for obvious reasons. There are what, 27 countries in the EU? 27 countries. They start at the top with the EU bureaucracy, with these measures. And they are at an advanced stage. Once they are imposed that is 27 countries in one go! That will have signed up for this legislation to be imposed.

 

What is the legislation? Criminalization of denial of the “Holocaust”. The legal protection of multiculturalism, and the compulsory promotion of “tolerance” and “diversity”.

 

So your country’s schools will have to teach “tolerance”, so-called and “diversity”, “multiculturalism”. And if they don’t they will be fined, and their governments will be fined.

 

And if you refuse to send your kids for tolerance education you are going to be arrested and you are going to do prison time!

 

That is where all of this ends! That is where “secure tolerance” is going to end up.

 

So the Skype Directory was a kind of canary in the coal mine. It showed which way the wind was blowing. And I can tell you now a storm is coming.

 

Tune in next time, we will talk a little bit more about this subject. Thanks.

 

 

 

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[Luke Ford, an Australian living in the USA, who “converted” to Judaism in 1993, interviews Kevin MacDonald and his response to a recent critique of his highly ignored (by academia), yet important book, “The Culture of Critique“, by the 30-year-old, academically unknown, New York jew, Nathan Cofnas. Cofnas was scheduled to come on with MacDonald, but was unable to, due to time zone differences, as he’s in England, studying at Oxford. 

 

Ford plays somewhat of a devil’s advocate on behalf of Cofnas, quoting some of Cofnas’, yet to be released, responses to MacDonald’s 18,0000 word response to Cofnas’s critique.

 

This transcript covers  the first 71 minute part of the Youtube video with MacDonald, and not the remaining part of the total 220 minute video, where Cofnas does appear in the last third of it.

 

Overall, my take is that, it’s all a storm in a teacup, with very weak tea being dished up by Cofnas.

 

Now, the most likely reason that until now there has been, apparently, no proper academic response to MacDonald’s work, is because its main ideas are true and significant. So what was the message that has been sent out by organized jewry to academics? For over 20 years, it’s been, “Kill the message by totally ignoring it!“

 

MacDonald’s main point in his book is that jews, just like other human groups, act as a group to advance their interests often at the expense of other groups. Since organized jewry has maneuvered itself into being the most powerful group in Western societies, it has, and is wrecking utter destruction upon us! Especially by engineering the flooding of White countries, from New Zealand to Norway, with non-Whites. And part of the jewish group evolutionary strategy, to use Kmac’s terminology, is to prevent Whites from waking up to what they are doing to us, and responding in kind.

 

So, this interview is interesting, in that we get to see Kmac defend his book, his position, in his mild-mannered, yet strong way, against a young upstart jew making a name for himself. Cofnas fails, but rest assured, that another jew, defending their tribal war against Whites, will step into the breach and fire away.

 

Organized jewry is at total war with Whites, attempting to genocide us through whatever means. Kmac has helped us in exposing that, with his academic work, so we should all join together in supporting him, and others like him, in what ever way we can.

 

— KATANA]

 

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Watch the video here:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARhqt38bMZA&t=8271s

 

 

 

Luke Ford

 

Streamed live on Mar 20, 2018

 

http://lukeford.net/blog/?p=121020

 

Kevin MacDonald joins me on my YouTube channel at 7pm tonight (Nathan Cofnas might come along to keep things lively) and Richard Spencer joins me at 5pm Wednesday (CA time). Nathan Cofnas joins the show here:

 

 

 

Nathan Cofnas responds: “Just read it. Pretty much what I expected. He repeats his arguments in more or less the same style, doesn’t address my arguments head on and in some key cases just ignores them. Probably I will publish an annotated version of the PDF.”

 

https://link.springer.com/article/10….

 

http://quillette.com/2018/03/15/alt-r…

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publicat…

 

 

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Published on Mar 20, 2018

 

TRANSCRIPT

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[00:00]

 

 

Ford: And we’re back! Just trying to work out the technical difficulties and get Kevin MacDonald back in here. I hope the audio’s better. Sorry about these technical difficulties, but these things happen. And now maybe this time we’ll hear Kevin loudly and clearly. So I think that’s the important thing. So, sorry about that and we’re gonna get Kevin in here any second. So we’re talking about his response to the Nathan Cofnas critique of “The Culture of Critique”. And Kevin says:

 

“I have a particular complaint, because of Steven Pinker’s not [?] anti–scientific approach to my work, in part responsible for my spending the last 20 years in the intellectual wilderness.”

 

Wow that is very honest! That’s kind of hot on the sleeve! That’s transparent honestly! It’s not like beating around the bush! That is just laying it down.

 

“Nevertheless, Pinker has moved the scientific and popular reception of behavior genetics of evolutionary perspectives forward. See, for example, his withering criticism in the “Blank Slate” of three of the figures discussed in Chapter two of “Cultural of Critique“, Stephen Jay Gould, Lewontin, and Rose.

And for all I know he is pursuing a tactical strategy of gradualism by supporting ideas that are still regarded with extreme hostility in large swaths of academia and the media, in the hope that things will eventually change. Though his recent work “Enlightenment Now” is not encouraging in that regard. The rest of Cofnas’ conclusion is simply name-calling — no need to respond.” says Kevin.

 

 

So I’m sure Kevin will be in here any minute, and even Nathan Cofnas will come by. So thank you for tuning in. Waiting to get Kevin MacDonald back in the chat and take care of those pesky audio problems that troubled us in our first attempt to get this discussion moving.

 

And Dominque wants me to replace Bill Mayer.

 

“Luke needs to stop being a coward and investigate and address “Holocaust” truth! He knows it’s the critical piece to understanding contemporary jewish power!”

 

Well, how come none of the premier Alt-Right intellectuals, [are with] the “Holocaust” revisionists. Neither Kevin MacDonald, or even Andrew Joyce, Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer, F Roger Devlin. None of the smartest Alt-Right intellectuals, …

 

[Because speaking the truth about the hoax nature of the “Holocaust” will bring down the sadistic wrath of organized jewry on their heads. It’s “Fear of the jews” and how they can ruin your life, especially if you are a public figure.]

 

 

 

MacDonald: Okay.

 

Ford: Hey that sounds much better! Thank you sir.

 

MacDonald: Okay, good.

 

Ford: Oh yeah, this is great! Wow! So much to talk about!

 

Okay. What is your perspective on the default hypothesis and why your perspective on Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy is superior?

 

MacDonald: Well the default hypothesis is just absolutely the most basic thing. I mean, it’s like jews are smart. I haven’t looked at it lately, but I guess it’s the idea that simply the jews are smarter, or something. And that explains everything. On the other hand, I mean, what I’m trying to do is more than that. Acknowledge that jews are smart, they are on average. But the default hypothesis is the simplest possible explanation that might account for it.

 

I’m trying to do something more ambitious. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just a matter of finding if it’s true, or not. I mean, I have to show it’s true, but if I do show, then I’ve shown something more than the default hypothesis. And that is, you know, in science you want the truth. You don’t want, simplicity is wonderful, but the default hypothesis is certainly is good. It’s something I guess. But it’s not going to be where you want to be ultimately. You want to find out were jewish motivations important? Were the sense of jewish interests important? Those are the kinds of things you want to do.

 

Ford: Now one thing that’s interesting about the Cofnas critique is that Cofnas is obviously a race realist, and so is Steven Pinker. And I think there were two other jews and a non jew on the peer review are signing off on a paper of race realism. Did you see any significance to that?

 

[05:02]

 

MacDonald: Well it’s interesting. I had heard that I guess. That he is a race realist, which is wonderful. And I think Pinker is also. I mean, I don’t know about Pinker. The only thing I’ve seen by Pinker that suggests that is he does believe that jews are smarter. And he does believe that there’s some kind of selective pressures within the jewish community to produce that. That’s certainly part way there. I don’t know if he believes in black White IQ differences, I really don’t, but it’s interesting. It’s part way. It’s shows he’s not completely, you know, got his head in the sand! And then yeah he’s a pretty smart guy. I’m not denying that either.

 

Ford: If these if these professors are signing off on an academic paper, you know, based on race realism, saying that jews are smarter, they are implicitly signing off that other people are less intelligent.

 

MacDonald: They are. And I think, you know, they would not want to talk about blacks being smarter than, … the Whites being smarter than blacks, or something like that. Although I’m not sure. But I’ve never seen anything by Pinker suggesting he believes that.

 

And I haven’t read really anything of Cofnas at all apparently. Apparently he did something about Samuel Morton, the 19th century anthropologist. I got some email about that. And it did suggest that he was more of a race realist, or something. But I, you know, I really don’t know anything about the man, except seeing this article he did about me.

 

Ford: So was this the first time in your memory that you heard the name Nathan Cofnas?

 

MacDonald: Yeah! That was the only time, you know, and it sort of shocked me! It took me by surprise. It, what happened Saturday was it Saturday night?

 

Ford: Yeah.

 

MacDonald: Something like that and I didn’t get going on it. I sort of glanced at it on Sunday and then I started working on a reply on Monday. Pretty furiously, and I ended up with 18 thousand words for heaven’s sake, it in a rather short period of time. So it’s rather intense. I don’t like things hanging out there! You know, when someone posts saying, you know, there’s an automatic feeling:

 

“Wow! This guy knows what he’s doing! You know, and he’s really nailed MacDonald and everything!”

 

I just don’t like the idea that it’s sitting out there. So, I mean, I could have taken more time, maybe done a little better job, but and I may revise it in the future. But I wanted to get it out there! I don’t like things sitting out there.

 

Ford: One thing I loved about your rebuttal and about your writing in general, is the emotional honesty! Like you don’t mind [08:02] putting yourself on the line and using your own life and the most painful parts of your life as examples of your theories.

 

MacDonald: [chuckling] well, you know, I’m used to it! I’ve been defending myself for 20 years! I mean, not like this quite. But if you go to my website I have a section on replies to my critics. And people have been all over me 20 years. At my university as I said, in the introduction, or footnote. I mean, I was subjected to intense hostility on faculty email lists, and people arguing against different things. They never really went after “Culture of Critique”, but they made points about different things.

 

 

And I was for a while in the late 90s after the books came out I was on this history email discussion, saying, you know, about jewish history. Somebody got me on there. And boy, that was intense! , because they were really going after me! But,  I answered them as best I could, and I didn’t feel I was being nailed, you know. So I’m used to it! I’ve got a whole folder what I got. It’s called “Defense” where I’ve written all these defenses of my work. And it’s repetitive! So I’ve seen it all, basically.

 

And I’ve been around the block on a lot of these things. And one thing that surprised me about Cofnas is he’d seem to think that having a counterexample, if you find a jew who criticized psychoanalysis, or criticizes Israel, or something, I mean, as if that can refute what I’m saying! I just didn’t understand how you could think that! Because I mean, I have seen it before and it’s remarkable that came up so often in his critique.

 

[10:00]

 

Ford: Yeah. How much explanatory power does the default hypothesis have for jewish intellectual influence? Does it does it account for 90% of it, do you think?

 

MacDonald: Well, I wouldn’t want to venture a guess on that. I mean, there are a lot of jews, as I say in there, that are do good work. And I think that’s not the issue. The issue, are these particular movements that have been very influential. And I do get into the little bit on the philosophy of science in the middle of it somewhere. I talk about being “falsifiable”, because at one point he said that I’ve never acknowledged any evidence that could refute the theory. And I’ve seen other people say that.

 

But it’s so obvious! The way to refute my theory is simply say that I’m wrong about my historical accounts! It’s like any historian. And, you know, what my books are basically, the basic approach is evolutionary psychology, but within that, quite often, history becomes important. In the culture of critique it’s intellectual history. Basically psychoanalysis, Frankfurt School, and so on.

 

So if you want to show I’m wrong. All you have to do is say well, you know, psychoanalysis is not a jewish movement! Well Cofnas never even tries to do that! He doesn’t even go there! He makes little, you know, forays here and there. And again, when it comes out, and I’ve always done those with my critics. I go through every last point that they make! I don’t leave anything out! And so that’s why they ended up being very long. I mean, I quoted him, and had to write on it, and sometimes, a lot of times I brought in stuff from the books. So it got very lengthy. But, I don’t like to think that:

 

“Well he didn’t answer this he didn’t answer that, you know, he debated this and so on so.”

 

If I’d written a five-page thing and pointed out a few things, that would be one thing. But I think then I’d be open to that kind of charge. But he made all these claims about “cherry-picking”, and what was the other thing, “misrepresentation”. Well, I went through every one where that was claimed. And I mean, I’d like to see him do the same, because in my reply I said that he’s misinterpreting, misrepresenting what I’m saying, in a number of places. And in one case I did say it was cherry-picking. So I mean, if he wants to repeat what I said, he’s got a job on his hands. But if he wants to do as thorough a job as I did. And we’ll see if he does that. I don’t know if he. I haven’t heard from him since it since I posted my thing.

 

Ford: Did Cofnas in any way make an intellectual contribution to this discussion?

 

MacDonald: Well I didn’t feel it did in the end. He didn’t really engage any of the real thesis of the thing. I mean, one of the most heartening things on Saturday, or Sunday, I got an email from a professor I know. A very well-regarded guy, respected in evolutionary psychology. He said he just didn’t engage any of you main points. He didn’t! So even if he was right about all these things he said, it didn’t really threaten any of the major points. I mean, take psychoanalysis. Did he ever show, did he even try to show that these guys didn’t identify as Jews? No! Did he try to show that they didn’t have a sense of jewish interest? No! And that’s the fundamental thing! Did he try to show that they really didn’t have any influence? Well, that’s absurd in the case of psychoanalysis! Very absurd!

 

So in a way I was heartened by that, because, very heartened by that! And when I looked through this thing, I had to agree. I mean, I hadn’t even read it all yet. But it just doesn’t do anything. Take the chapter on the Left. Well, it doesn’t show that jewish identification, … he never even raises one example! I’ve got dozens of examples in there! He never gives one example where he says:

 

“Well these guys didn’t really identify as Jews because, you know, X Y & Z.”

 

Well he doesn’t do that! So again, I was feeling that he hadn’t really addressed the point. The points that he did make, were interesting, but they didn’t attack the central thesis, you know. So a lot of it did involve, well, you know, as a misrepresentation you didn’t, you ignored this, or something like that. Okay, I went through that and I think I rebutted it. We will see what happens now.

 

Ford: So how would one falsify your theory of judaism being a group evolutionary strategy?

 

 

MacDonald: Well it’s like I said a minute ago. You would show that, … the basic idea of a group evolutionary strategy is simply a group that is an effective group in terms of natural selection and evolution. And what that would require, is you have to show that they are able to regulate the behavior of the members of the group. And in my first book “People That Shall Dwell Alone” is about that. It goes into traditional jewish societies. It doesn’t even get to 20th century, it’s almost all the ancient world and so on, and into the 19th and early 20th century, maybe. But if you look at those communities they were very tightly structured! Okay. So the behavior of jews towards each other were highly regulated!

 

For example if once you had a business monopoly, a second Jews couldn’t go in there and try to challenge that monopoly. In other words, if it was a fellow jew, they couldn’t do that. So if, for example, a jew failed to pay his taxes, do other things required by the community, well they would punish him. And, you know, in the 19th century in Russia, they had jails in synagogues. And if somebody married a non-jew, well the whole family would be tarnished.

 

Those are the kinds of things, the kind of sanctions on individual jewish behavior within the community. That is what makes it a group evolutionary strategy, because you’re able to regulate the members of the in-group and prevent cheaters! The problem, you know, the theoretical problem has always been. And that’s how I started out. I do mention that in the rebuttal, in the first couple pages, about how I got to where I am.

 

Again, a lot of it’s, maybe, in footnotes. But what I say is, that I got the idea of a group evolutionary strategy, I started out I was interested in monogamy. Why is monogamy such a big thing in Western European history? And it’s not the case in so many other cultures. If you look at the Arab world, Africa, China, you don’t see monogamy. And so I ended up seeing that. I noticed that there are a lot of social controls, that people were regulating marriage. The church was regulating marriages.

 

And then, I wrote a book in 1988 on developmental psychology. But the last chapter I focused on the Spartans. The ancient Greek Spartans. And you see there’s a very engineered society. It was started by a guy named Lycurgus who had an idea. I mean, he had a program a blueprint for how this should work. And so Spartan kids were brought up to be soldiers. Their whole life was to be a soldier! They were taken away from their families.

 

 

They were, so this was all an engineered thing, in the same way jewish communities you have these religious studies. You teach them these things. And everything in child development is very much programmed. And so I went from the Spartans, and I didn’t really then, really focused on the idea this is a contribution to thinking about humans in evolutionary terms. It really hadn’t been done before. And that is to emphasize the group level., because again it was a heresy back in the 1980s. It was just, you know, everything was individual selection. Groups don’t matter. All groups can be analyzed as a bunch of individuals.

 

I said no! Human groups are different from animals. We can regulate ourselves in a way from external pressures, these  social controls and ideology. And if you look at the Spartans they would have an ideology that would rationalize the whole thing.

 

Of course, Judaism have had an ideology of how they rationalize what they did within their communities. But by what they did that within those communities made them effective groups from an evolutionary standpoint, evolutionary selection between groups.

 

Ford: As jews are now marrying out, well above 50%, does that mean that jews are no longer employing a group evolutionary strategy? Or is it no longer effective? Or is this part of the group evolutionary strategy, marrying non-jews?

 

[19:55]

 

MacDonald: Yeah well, I think that’s the thing. I mean, the phenomenon of intermarriage is certainly very common in the West now. You could be talking about America and other European based countries. And that’s, because these controls broke down really! I mean, hey, you know, I actually should write about that! Yeah, the point is, in traditional society you couldn’t marry anybody you wanted! That was, you know, if you did, your whole family would be screwed! You know, there was just no way to do that!

 

Those controls broke down in the 19th century. And the jews was, you know, this was called “emancipation”. They left they the jewish ghettos, they went to the universities, they, you know, did all these things. And when they got out in the real world, they started intermarrying. And they sort of lost those intense community ties.

 

But if you look in Israel you don’t see intermarriage, because they’re pretty much there with other jews. And it’s interesting that in the early 20th century that was the whole point of Zionism. A very major point of Zionism, as it developed in the early 20th century, was to prevent assimilation and to prevent intermarriage! They could see this happening already in Germany. And they they were thinking that this is the end of Judaism. And you still see that. A lot of jewish activists like, say Alan Dershowitz, they are very concerned that in the long run there won’t be any jews, or there won’t be any sort of ethnic jews. It’s going to change that dramatically.

 

Ford: Is there a certain rate of intermarriage that would invalidate your theory of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy? I mean, if it goes north of 60 percent, if it goes north of 70 percent?

 

MacDonald: Yeah I think it’s interesting, the fact is that what I’ve done, you know. The first book was on traditional societies and most of the second book was really. The third book [“The Culture of Critique”] is on really, almost all of it is really on secular Jews, who are not that attached to the jewish community. But they do identify as Jews. And they have a sense of belonging to a jewish community. But it’s not like it was. And in a way what you have to hesitate to say is that Diaspora Judaism in America is a group evolutionary strategy.

 

I almost hesitate to call it that. I would call it that in traditional societies for sure! That’s the whole point of the first book. And you might even say that in Israel, because they, you know, it’s an ethno-state. But, and in America, certainly there are vestiges of that. But the point of “The Culture of Critique” is that it’s almost like I get out of that framework. And the most important thing is how do these jews, how are they influencing culture?

 

And the fact is, even though they may be intermarried, and maybe they’re not like, Theodor Adorno was only half jewish, I think. And yeah he was very strongly identified as a jew. And so he participated his intellectual movements that I covered. So, was he part of a group evolutionary strategy? Well, I suppose he is. What I’d have to say is that the ones who are participating in the group evolutionary strategy are the strongly identified jews who are actively trying to promote jewish interests as they see them. Of course, there are going to be disputes among them as to what jewish interests are.

 

So I would say that Freud was part of a group evolutionary strategy in the sense that, you know, and intellectuals today. If you look at, say the American, the ADL, say. Someone like Stephen Greenblatt, Abe Foxman. Those guys are strongly identified jews, they are doing what they see as advancing jewish interests. At some point  and another point I think I do make somewhere in the reply, is that if you look at the leadership of the Jewish community, it’s still ethnically jewish. I mean, you look at something like Greenblatt. He’s got two jewish parents, four jewish grandparents all the way back. Abe Foxman. I don’t know of any real leadership position here that’s held by people who are intermarried and so on.

 

But, in any case, I mean, it’s certainly the case that there’s a lot of intermarriage. But even that, a lot of the children of these people do strong identify as Jews, and a lot don’t. And so a lot of them are going to fall by the wayside. They’re not going to be jewish anymore. So, you know, your mom’s jewish and your dad isn’t, then so then you marry a non jew, pretty soon, it’s not going to be there anymore. And your probably not even gonna be welcome in the jewish community.

 

But at some point it’s gonna dissipate and end really did you got a jewish great-great-great grandparent, so what?

 

[25:02]

 

Ford: So let’s just say for discussions sake, just to push you on this point. If jewish out marriage rates in the United States climb above 70%, it would be then fair to say that, most jews in the United States and not following a group evolutionary strategy?

 

MacDonald: Yeah i’d probably say most of them are not, but you’d have to interview them and see what they’re up to. You know, I mean, part of it would just be, you know, how strongly do you identify as a Jews? You know, do you, are you active in jewish organizations? Do you like, …, because after all there are two elements of the whole thing. One is genetics, and one is culture. Now for centuries the culture and the genetics were sort of tied together completely! , but that’s not the case so much anymore. But you could have a person who’s a quarter jewish, or something like that, and he strongly identifies as a Jews. But I think most of those people will not, and they will their children will not marry a Jews. And so they’re sort of dropping out of the whole thing.

 

Ford: So, I mean, your theory of Judaism is a group evolutionary strategy does not have to apply it to every single jewish community, like, …

 

MacDonald: Oh no! Not at all.

 

Ford: Much better than other jewish communities. For plenty of jewish communities it’s not going to be a useful tool of analysis. Like you said a jewish community with an 80% intermarriage rate, it’s not really a useful tool for that sort of community. Is that fair?

 

MacDonald: Yeah I mean, 80 percent, yeah, even 60% you’ve got an awful lot of people who don’t identify much anymore. And they’re gonna fall out. And that’s a concern that jewish activists. I know that. I mean, when I wrote the book and it’s interesting, because in 1998 I wrote two books. And they both dealt with that issue that in the last chapter of each of those books.

 

And at that time there was a lot of writing within the jewish community, in the jewish press. Condemning intermarriage and trying to shore it up. And trying to prevent it., because all the studies started coming out, you know, 30, 40, or 50 percent, you know, at that time 50 percent was, I think, was what people were saying. And then people could hardly believe it. But there’s a real backlash against that attempt to shore it up. Well I guess it failed! It’s gotten worse.

 

Ford: Okay. So there’s a guy in the chatroom who lives in Europe, I don’t believe he’s jewish, but his boss is jewish. And his boss just looks very askance at Zionism.

 

MacDonald: Yeah.

 

Ford: So in the modern world like after the “Holocaust” we’ve now had a jewish state for approximately 60 plus, 70 years. In this modern world if you have a jewish community where they are opposed to the existence of an ethno-jewish state, you know, currently known as Israel, and then, and that’s widespread, let’s say it’s like 60% of the community, just to use that figure from intermarriage. Does that then challenge the usefulness of the tool of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy, when you have a majority of a jewish community are opposed to the jewish state.

 

 

MacDonald: Well in the reply I talked about there is a jewish Orthodox, jewish sect that does not accept Israel. Yet they strong identify as jews. It does exist! And there are certainly critics of Israel. One of the points I make in the reply, is that critics of Israel are getting more and more common among jews. I mean, one of the websites I read every day is Mondowiess. A great website! And they’re very critical of Zionism as it exists in Israel now. And these guys are strongly identified as Jews.

 

Phillip Wiess is the Editor and he’s talks about that. And I think he wants to feel part of the jewish community. But at the same time, he’s a sort of liberal lefty kind of guy. Who can’t stand with what he’s seeing over there. And so he’s very critical. And he probably thinks in the long run, this is not a good strategy for jews. To have a state that’s doing, you know, the ethnic cleansing, they’re taking over the West Bank, they’re seizing more and more land, and annexing, and so on.

 

And those are the things that are giving Israel a sort of pariah status in the world now! Well if you’re jewish, you gotta say, well either you’re gonna say, well that’s fine, you know. But a lot of jews I think are sort of clenching their teeth and they’re saying, you know:

 

“Are we doing the right thing here?”

 

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But again, another point I make though, I think in Israel, within Israel, the fanatics are in charge! And I made that point in response to the review by the “Israel Lobby” the book by Mearsheimer and Walt., because their point, they wanted, they are very critical of Israel and how it’s influenced our foreign policy. And they’re very critical about what Israel’s done to the Palestinians. So what they say is for Israel’s own good they should shape up! And they should stop all this stuff! And, you know, become a sort of regular state. But I don’t see that happening.

 

And what I see is that people like Natalie Bennett is talking about, you know, succeeding Netanyahu. Well, he’s a leader of the secular movement. I think that it’s just going to get more intense as time goes on. I mean, the people having the children over in Israel tend to be the more orthodox. This is the case in this country.

 

Where in Israel they are coming to a majority there if not already. I don’t think a sort of, you know, the people who started Israel, the so-called labor Zionist, they were very much liberal on the Left and all that and even though, they were aggressive and so on. It’s gotten more intense over the years, obviously, beginning with the Begin government back in 1970. So yeah, I think Israel is getting more extreme. I think it’s going to keep going that way.

 

Ford: A jewish reader of yours, writes in the chat room:

 

“If individualism are key to Western beauty and greatness, how can this be retained with ethnic cohesion?”

 

MacDonald: Well yeah, it is a very good question. What I would hope is that we could have a period where we would sort of give up our individualism, re-establish ourselves, get back on our feet, and then reestablish individualism afterwards. We’re gonna need some cohesion here for a while. We’re going to need some sense of the mission that we have to right things in Europe, and America, Australia, New Zealand, and other places.

 

So I think that’s gonna require more of a collective mentality. And, you know, I’m a northern European. I’m quite individualist, but at the same time I understand the need to sort of submerge myself in a movement! I realized I’m not going to necessarily approve of everything everybody does. I have to look at a lot of different alternatives. But the point is that I’m going to join a more collective society, submerge my individualism a little bit, in order for the greater good.

 

Ford: Right. So if jews are prominently represented on both the hereditarian race realist side, you’ve had a lot of jews speaking at American Renaissance, as well as being prominently represented on the opposite, the egalitarian side. What explanatory power does your theory of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy have, if you have prominent jews, and in numbers, on both sides of the debate such as the hereditarian versus the egalitarian perspective on racial IQ differences?

 

Oh! What happened? I lost Kevin MacDonald! Doggone it! Let me throw in an invite back so. Sorry!

 

MacDonald: Sorry I looked at the thing and it said iI was off and now I realized it wasn’t. Anyway, the answer to your question is, and this came up, you know, in my reply. The question isn’t a matter of counting heads. The question is who’s been influential? And so in chapter two I talk about that, and the point is that the anti-hereditarian have in a very real sense won that day. And the reason they won it is, because of jewish activism.

 

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And the prime example is Stephen Jay Gould. I mean, and I give a lot of attention to him in that chapter. He’s been enormously influential. Harvard professor, you know, he also wrote a lot in the popular press. He had a column at Natural History. He became like a superstar, an academic superstar! I saw him talk once, and he was a brilliant speaker! You know, he gave a slide show, he had three screens going, he was very flamboyant and talked with absolute confidence! I’ll never forget it, I’ll never forget!

 

He said right towards the end, and he’s talking about the human brain, or something. He said:

 

“What could be more obvious and that the human brain, our ideas and everything, our brain itself is not under natural selection!”

 

And I just, you know, I’m sitting there in the audience, and I’m saying:

 

“Are you kidding me?”

 

But he said it was such a aplomb! You know, in a roomful of academics and they’re all cheering wildly! I mean, it was like this guy was very, very, effective! So again, it’s the same way with it with Israel! I mean, there are a lot of jews now who are criticizing Israel, but who’s important? AIPAC is important! The Sheldon Adelson is important! Haim Sabin is important! You know, there that’s where the money comes from. And if you should cross AIPAC, you know, if you cross AIPAC you’re gonna be in trouble if your politician. So even if you find a substantial percentage of jews are critical of Israel, or something like that, it may not mean a darn thing! You see what I mean?

 

You can have people like Nancy Siegel and Richard Herstein, the co-author of “The Bell Curve”. Great scientists! But what happened to “The Bell Curve”? Nothing! Yeah, I mean, aft 20 years, you know, that’s been around since 1994! And it was a huge blow up at the time, but has “The Bell Curve” influenced public policy at all? Has “The Bell Curve” influenced? Charles Murray would be the first to admit this! Herstein had a dialogue on this, a long time ago, around 1994.

 

So the point is, not how many jews are in which way, whatever movement, the question is who won and why! And so that’s what you have to look at in all these cases, really.

 

Ford: A question from the chat:

 

“What do you think about Jared Taylor including Ashkenazim as White?”

 

MacDonald: Well I’m not sure. You know, in a way Ashkenazim are White. I mean, there’s a certain substantial European admixture there. Maybe 40 percent, overall. But, you know, if it goes up one 1% a year a generation, over forty generations you’re talking about that. And so there is a substantial admixture. An awful lot of Ashkenazi jews certainly look European. I think of someone like Jon Stewart. I mean, he doesn’t look jewish at all to me. So there are these genetic reasons why you might say that, but what I’ve always said is two things, two points I’d like to make.

 

One point is, I think that Jared Taylor may see this is a tactical issue, more than anything else. He realizes that jews are powerful and I think he wants to have a movement trying to recruit White America basically and get ourselves back on our feet. And one way to do that, maybe, is to get jews on our side. And I don’t disagree with that. I think more power to him! If he wins, hey, I’d say:

 

“Jared you won! Congratulations! You had the best strategy!”

 

But the other thing is that besides genetics there’s also identity. And the fact is that most jews, you know, the jewish education is geared to seeing jews as a victimized group historically, as a persecuted group. Christianity as a persecuting force, and again I was thinking of Ford, because Ford came up in the reply and, you know, where he talked about the persecuting Catholic Church and seeing the Catholic churches as their enemy. Well, you’re seeing an essential Western institution as an enemy.

 

And, of course, the reason for that is during the Middle Ages some of the Pope’s, not all popes, but some of the Popes were very anti-jewish. You had this in the Spanish Inquisition which had strong religious overtones. You had these Crusaders in the Middle Ages killing jews on the way the Holy Land. So into the present really.

 

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So there is that, there. But what that means is a lot of jews do not identify with Western culture. Even if they are, you know, maybe if they are 60 percent European. Some of them probably are, some of them probably much less. But they psychologically they don’t identify with it. So it’s not just genetics, it’s identity. How you think of yourself.

 

And the fact is, these jews who were involved in these jewish intellectual movements I talked about, were strongly identified as jews. And so that’s the critical thing is jewish identity for them. And that’s where I had to show it in each of those books.

 

Ford: Now, in your chapter on the Frankfurt School, you said that these jewish intellectuals strongly identified as jews. But I believed the only evidence you brought to support that was that they cared about the “Holocaust”. Now you don’t have to strongly identify as a jew to care about the “Holocaust”. So, on what basis do you say that the Frankfurt School intellectuals strongly identified as jews?

 

MacDonald: Why I have to look over my old chapter again [chuckling]. It is more than that! Believe me. I mean, there was some examples of that.

 

Ford: Okay.

 

MacDonald: I mean, Horkheimer especially. Look at his writings, especially as he got older, very strongly. And you look at the book like “Dialect of the xxx”. I spend a lot of time on that in the reply. I mean, it is such, so obviously an apologetic. You know, it’s an attempt to say basically that, an attempt to account for anti-semitism, but in the most convoluted, weird way!

 

Where the actual behavior of jews in this historical time doesn’t matter. It’s not like they ever went into something that happened in the 16th century, or the Inquisition, or something, and tried to see what was going on the other side. Instead it was a psychoanalytic. It was just crazy! And that can only happen if you are strongly motivated to vindicate jewish history. And to exculpate any kind of blame for it.

 

 

Ford: Yeah. It seems though that the Frankfurt School did push the same kind of multicultural agenda both on jews and non-jews. It’s not like they were pushing cohesion, unity, and exclusion for jews, and then the opposite for non-jews. They were, by and large, pushing the same recipe on both jews and non-jews. Would you agree with that?

 

MacDonald: Well! Were they pushing it on non-jews? I had sections, let me look at my reply, because they did come up in this whole discussion. Let me see if I can find it. Well at a basic level you had Frankfurt School funded by the American jewish Committee. It’s hard to believe that they had no jewish identification. It’s hard to believe they didn’t care about Jewish continuity. That’s certainly what the American jewish Committee was all about. I have a long section, I’d like to be able to see it, in order to really answer this here, in my reply.

 

Ford: What chapter is that in “The Culture of Critique?”

 

MacDonald: Chapter five, yeah.

 

Ford: Chapter five, okay. Let’s scroll down to, because you do your rebuttal basically chapter by chapter, so that makes it a lot to, …

 

MacDonald: Well almost, he went out-of-order. He’d put three after five. Okay, let’s look at the Frankfurt School.

 

Ford: Here, just while you while you’re scanning that, to see what you want to highlight, I just want to bring to attention Nathan’s response to your rebuttal. So Nathan shared with me a draft of his response. He still needs to do more work on it, and he gave me permission to quote from it, but not to share it. So that’s, you know, those of the ground rules that I’m dealing with. And this is Nathan. He’s saying:

 

“That members of the Frankfurt School had a strong reaction to the “Holocaust”, which is hardly surprising, does not mean that they strongly identified as jews, or supported jewish ethnocentrism.”

 

MacDonald: Is this a reply to what I wrote now?

 

Ford: Yeah, yeah he hasn’t published this as yet, so if you feel that I’m engaging in dirty pool, I won’t, …

 

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MacDonald: No. Again, I would like to see what, … I’m scrolling through my own reply here now. Okay I said I do not assume they approve of this behavior simply, because they were jewish. The first part, a strong identification of the jewish principal figures and the group’s most influential work. “The Authoritarian Personality”. Max Horkheimer says “the goal of philosophy is to vindicate jewish history.”

 

 

Well, what do you think that means! I mean, that is strong Jewish identification! This is more than simply concern about the “Holocaust”, for heaven’s sake! Take Adorno, much of Adorno’s later work may be viewed as reaction to the “Holocaust”. But that’s Adorno, I suppose. But he seems to be obsessed with that. But again, he also participated in writing “Dialectic of the Enlightenment”. He’s working on a book funded by the American jewish committee, all about anti-Semitism. So I take that as evidence of a strong jewish identity, absolutely!

 

Ford: Okay. Let me read two sentences from your rebuttal, and two sentences from Cofnas’ rebuttal of your rebuttal. And just go from there. So Kevin writes:

 

“There are really two possibilities here about the Frankfurt school. They realized it was a double standard, but didn’t want to publicize that, for the obvious reason that they would be seen as hypocrites. Or, they were deceiving themselves by simply focusing on White ethnocentrism as pathological, while blocking out any thought about how this presents an intellectual inconsistency i.e., self-deception.”

 

 

 

Now this is Nathan’s response:

 

“There is a third possibility. Members of the Frankfurt School opposed ethnocentrism for both jews and Gentiles alike. This third possibility seems especially plausible given that MacDonald has no positive evidence for the first two possibilities, besides the fact that the “Holocaust” loomed large for the Franklin School, which is irrelevant.”

 

MacDonald: But that is a total gloss on what I’m saying! Good heavens! I mean, I just read you about Max Horkheimer, you know, and the fact that the whole thing is concerned, that the “Authoritarian Personality” is so obsessed with anti-semitism. So to me that’s obvious that they are strongly identified as jews. I just can’t even imagine that they aren’t.

 

Ford: Yeah. When you said that they’re obsessed with anti-semitism, is it possible that they were equally obsessed with anti-racism?

 

MacDonald: Well they certainly are concerned about racism, as they had the ethnocentrism scale, it doesn’t explicitly mention jews. And that is interesting. I think that in general jews have seen a strong correlation, which is the case. And I think it’s a basic idea of the “Authoritarian Personality” is that if you don’t like blacks tb you probably won’t like jews. And so they go together.

 

Ford: But it’s also, is it also possible that they cared as much about blacks as they cared about Jews?

 

MacDonald: Well, they might have, but, you know, again they’re doing this in my opinion, and I don’t see anything to rebut that, they’re doing this, because they see, because of their jewish identity. And they may well feel strongly about blacks, or something like that, but I do think that they, … and I do think that, some more stuff. The idea that they see a jewish future. They don’t think that the jews are going to stop. That jewish ethnocentrism, and really what it takes is jewish identity, to maintain a jewish future, I don’t think they‘re not opposed to that. And, you know, the group continuity. Well what else is it really? That’s really what it amounts to among jews.

 

Ford: From an Orthodox perspective the Frankfurt School jews are a bunch of jewish goyim who eat bacon and, you know, we feel nothing in common with them. And, you know, we basically loathe them! How does how does Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy, you know, analyze the other repugnance that Orthodox jews feel for jews like the Frankfurt School?

 

MacDonald: Well, yeah. I mean, there again there are divergences within the jewish community. There always had been, there always will be.

 

What you have to do is look at were the influence lies. These Orthodox jews did not do anything about the Frankfurt School. The Frankfurt School were very influential. And so that’s all I’m trying to do in “Culture of Critique”.

To show that these movements were created by strongly identified jews, and they were successful. Now the fact that some jews didn’t like that, or don’t like Frankfurt school, or people that eat bacon, or something like that, it’s irrelevant to that, really.

 

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Ford: So you mentioned in the paper that you’re not going to respond to Nathan’s ad hominem attacks. And I just want to read a few sentences here from Nathan. He says:

 

“I never made any ad hominem attacks against Kevin MacDonald. My paper does not call him, or his theory anti-semitic, nor does it attribute nefarious motivations to him. However in this reply, it is MacDonald who makes an ad hominem attack against me. He suggests, …”

 

MacDonald: Where’s that?

 

Ford: Okay:

 

“He suggests that I am motivated to criticize him, because of my jewish ethnicity. As Kevin says, one suspects that Cofnas had a foregone conclusion about “Culture of Critique’s” value. What psychologists term “motivated cognition” which as I attempt to demonstrate was characteristic of the jewish intellectuals reviewing “Culture of Critique” like the hyper purist discussed in several places in “Culture of Critique” he was looking for ways to condemn research he didn’t like of deeper reason.”

 

So were you were you arguing here in your rebuttal that Cofnas was motivated to criticize you and denounce you, because Cofnas is jewish?

 

MacDonald: Well, yeah, I mean, I you want to call that “ad hominem”. What I’m saying is that I think it’s motivated, I think it’s strongly motivated. What I resented was him calling me incompetent. What I resented was saying I was full of misrepresentations. False! That I was cherry-picking right and left. False! I mean, he was saying all kind of things that we’re just really disrespectful! And just trying to make me out to be some kind of an idiot! And I just really resented the tone of this thing, to tell you the truth!

 

I had one sentence at the end where I where I suggested that he’s motivated by his ethnicity, which is the case. I suggested, I didn’t, you know, say  it was some kind of a knockdown argument, obviously. But he did not engage any of the basic ideas. Come on! What are you doing? And he thinks he’s refuted me? Come on, it’s ridiculous!

 

Ford: You knew “The Culture of Critique” was incendiary, so what sort of reaction did you expect of the book?

 

MacDonald: Well I didn’t know. I thought that maybe I would get condemned, or get bad reviews, or something. But what was interesting was, nothing happened. And so I think Cofnas mentioned Frank Salter’s review, and that was about it. And yeah, so obviously it was quite different with the first two books, especially the first book. It got positive reviews and everything. I mean, it was a surprise. I didn’t know quite what to expect but then it pretty obvious there was going to be silence.

 

Ford: Yeah. Now you write in your rebuttal:

 

“I began to see myself as having a dog in this fight.”

 

Once you worked on your immigration chapter of “The Culture of Critique”.

 

MacDonald: Yeah.

 

Ford:

“and what was happening was from an evolutionary perspective, a disaster of the White people of the West! Ethnic displacement is like reducing an extended family, or other lineages. It is a drastic loss of fitness as Frank Salter has shown. Really no different from displacement of one subspecies, or species, …”

 

MacDonald: That is just a typo there.

 

Ford:

“… this is natural selection in action, though it’s hard to call the process natural, because it’s a consciously engineered process”

 

So this is Nathan’s response:

 

“Later in this reply MacDonald argues that some jews, such as Alan Dershowitz, support multiracial immigration to advance jewish interests as they understand them. But here he acknowledges the obvious point that multiracial immigration to a country which he equates with ethnic displacement, opposes the ethnic interest of the majority inhabitants of the country.”

 

So were you inconsistent here?

 

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MacDonald: What do you mean? How my interests are what?

 

Ford: Okay, so in your rebuttal you make the point that ethnic displacement is reducing, is like reducing an extended family.

 

MacDonald: Yes.

 

Ford: Okay. So when Alan Dershowitz supports multiracial immigration to Israel, to advance jewish interests, as he understands that. This multiracial immigration is the same sort of ethnic displacement that you would decrying in the West.

 

MacDonald: Well, yeah absolutely! And the response to that is simply again, there are differences of opinion among jews! You have to look at where the power is! And Alan Dershowitz does not have any power over Israeli immigration policy, pretty obviously! Because right now Israel is expelling Africans right and left. And they are very strong, you know, restrictions on who can come into Israel. So, I don’t care.

 

You know, there are a lot of reasons why Alan Dershowitz might have those opinions. And I mentioned that in my reply. He may think that, well it’s good PR, you know, that Israel still depends on the West, we can’t have this image of being racist. We can’t have this image that Judaism is all about genetics. And he might even think that it’s, you know, crazy in the long run! All right, and the other thing he may well think, well 2% is no big deal! I mentioned that. So I don’t know what his motives are, but it doesn’t matter!

 

The point is that Israeli policy is to create and maintain and ethno-state and they are succeeding at that! Admitting 2% of Ethiopians, or something like that, it’s not going to change that. And as also said, the Ethiopians are on the fringes of society over there. They are not being integrated. A lot of Israelis hate that. And some religious authorities think they’re not even really jewish. Well it’s not exactly a warm welcome!

 

And, you know, again what matters is where the power is! Not, you know, counting heads, like even famous heads like, Chomsky, or Dershowitz, or something like that, to see where the power is. It’s empirical, you know. It’s not like I  have a theory of what all jews do every time! You know, the theory is descriptive, to see where the power is. Whether it’s an influential intellectual movement like psychoanalysis, or the Frankfurt School, or Israeli immigration policy, or jewish influence on immigration policy in America. That’s all I’m trying to do! Yeah I don’t get that the thrust of that argument at all.

 

Ford: Okay, so I believe that Nathan will publish his rebuttal later this week, but gave me an advance look at a draft,

 

So you Kevin write:

 

“I see the jewish community as having important diversity of viewpoint.”

 

MacDonald: Yeah.

 

Ford: And Nathan says:

 

“Any reasonable interpretation of MacDonald would clearly put limits on the diversity of viewpoint that we would expect to find among jewish ethnic activists. When jews are over-represented among the leadership of violently opposing movement, for example, the pro-Israel lobby versus Boycott Divest Sanction movement, opponents versus advocates of free speech, this does not fit in any obvious way with MacDonald’s theory.

Should we expect Jews to cluster around those movements that actually advance their group interests? MacDonald claims that jews disagree about how to advance their common ethnic interests and this is why they are often the leaders both of movements and the movements opposition.

This implies that a large percentage of jews not only fail to determine what is in their best interests, but are actively working against those interests by opposing the movement that would actually advanced them. Isn’t jewish over-representation in opposing movements evidence in favor of the default hypothesis?”

 

MacDonald: No! It’s not! Again, as I said, a minute ago, what we’re looking at is where the power is!

 

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Jews have different opinions about where, what to do, and so on, and for all I know, you know, at some point the BDS movement may win. But the point is it’s a jewish, if you are correct. I mean, my impression is there may be jewish leadership, but a lot of it’s Palestinian and other people who are really sort of carrying the weight. But in any case, say it is a jewish movement, and you’ve got opposing jewish movements. Fine! And you’ve got opposing jewish religious movements in a sense, you know, their different views and things.

 

But if you’re looking at say something like American immigration policy, or our policy towards Israel. Does it matter that you’ve got a BDS movement? If the BDS movement can’t influence American foreign policy in the least? Not at all! Doesn’t matter! And they may succeed at some point, so this is gonna change.

 

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That’s why I say, this is not a predictive theory. I can’t predict where this is going to go. The BDS movement may get powerful enough to sway American companies to change their attitude, and then you have these elites in the United States really pressuring the government to, you know, stop supporting Israel so much. We’ll see what happens! Who knows what will happen? It’s up in the air.

 

But the point is that you have to look at these movements, see where the power is, and ask yourself is it a jewish movement? Are they advancing their version of jewish interests? Who’s winning and who’s losing? So it’s the same thing with immigration policy. You could, you can find jews who are opposed to immigration, open immigration, certainly.

 

And I talk about Stephen Steinlight in my and my response. He’s a lone figure and it’s hard to fight any a significant jewish group. I can’t think of it. There there are none! But there are few jews who are opposed to open border kind of immigration. Larry Auster was very effective! And at the end of his life, you know, he talked about how jews were so central to the whole thing. To the movement for open borders.

 

 

So you have these individual jews and maybe even at some point, I guess FAIR the American, the organization called FAIR. It’s an acronym for immigration reform Federation for American Immigration Reform, or something. At the head of that is a guy named Stein. Okay, that’s nice. But FAIR is not a jewish intellectual movement! [chuckling] it’s headed by a jew and he’s not even typical of the jewish community by any means.

 

So we’ll see! At some point, you know, I know I also made a note of that. Jews had to make change on immigration. In the UK I can certainly understand why they would. You got someone like Pamela Geller, you know, she can’t stand Muslims! And, you know, the reason is because, you know, she’s very strong identified jew. She does not want Muslims in these European countries! She thinks it’s a disaster for Jews. And I think she’s probably right. And what you see in the UK is that Muslims are getting more and more power, you know, especially with the Labour Party. They have been called anti-semitic, and this and that and everything else. But the reason is, because Muslims are a significant force now for labor.

 

What you see is sort of like in America where the Labor Party is losing the support of White Britons. They are going for the Conservative Party, and the Labour Party is getting more non-White. So Jeremy Corbyn is very anti-Israel, or at least very critical of Israel. I don’t know his exact position. But we’ll see what happens. We have to see who is good at winning and then is this a jewish movement and are they successful?

 

Ford: I’m probably repeating myself here, but I’m gonna risk looking stupid. You said that your theory of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy does not have predictive power, or value then what is the value if it isn’t if it doesn’t help, you know, either predict the future, or to better understand patterns in the past?

 

MacDonald: Well I think we better understand things, absolutely! I mean, you talk about the default hypothesis. Well it’s a vast improvement on the default hypothesis if you can show that these movements were fundamentally motivated by jewish interests and jewish identity. And that’s a fundamental advance over the default hypothesis.

 

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But it’s not predictive. How could it be? I mean, I talk about that explicitly in the article. I say so sort of like predicting the weather in Los Angeles in ten years on September 9th! You know, I mean, that’s ridiculous! They can’t do that, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a weather science. And so when you describe things and try to understand how they happen, that’s all historians ever try to do, I’m embedding mine ultimately in evolutionary psychology, of evolutionary biology.

 

So it’s a little different from standard history. But historians don’t really try to predict the future. They try to explain the past. What causes what, and I’m happy to just say leave it at that. That’s enough of an accomplishment.

 

I can’t keep going for too much longer, because my wife, …

 

Ford: Okay! Okay. So I’ll tell you what, I’ll just read a final point by Nathan.

 

MacDonald: Yeah.

 

Ford: And you can say “I’ve already answered that”, whatever.

 

So you wrote:

 

“Jewish support for any particular idea, or cause will be sensitive to each generations perceived interest, given changing circumstances. Cofnas has a static ahistorical conception of jewish interests.”

 

And Nathan responds:

 

“The examples of jewish disagreement that I give are not comparing jews in different historical periods, but comparing jews in the same periods. We cannot explain these disagreements by appealing to the fact that historical circumstances change and call for different strategies.”

 

MacDonald: Well there are several times in his review that he acts as if Zionism is sort of an essential. You know, that Jewish strategy is essential to being jewish. That’s ridiculous!

 

I mean, his criticism on Freud, he says something like, what was it, he said Freud in 1929, there was a riot in Jerusalem, and Freud would not sign a petition, or something like that. They just sort of put it on the Arabs. And so that meant that Freud was not much of an ethnic activist, or you didn’t care about jewish interests.

 

But again not all people, especially 1929, would have seen it that way. And even if you’re a Zionist, someone like Philip Weiss is a Zionist, in a way. He’s critical of Israel but he’s not like he’s he wants Israel to stop being Israel! He wants it to soften. And Freud may have been the same way.

 

As I said, about Freud motives, well he may have thought that, you know, you talked about the fanaticism of our people. Well sometimes yeah you can blame your own people for getting out of control a little bit. It’s a bad strategy! You know, zionists have pursued a lot of different strategies in the early years, and still does.

 

And you don’t have to agree with all of them. And maybe they thought that what happened there in Jerusalem was part of the jews fault, and that we shouldn’t do that. So he’s not going to sign this petition. Doesn’t mean he’s not a zionist. It certainly doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a strong jewish identity, a sense of jewish interest. But he’s got his own interpretation!

 

Again, you have to see where the power is! Where the influence is! Where, who’s running the show! I when it comes to influencing US foreign policy it’s AIPAC. It’s neocon! It’s sympathetic jews like Haim Sabin for the Democratic Party. They’re the ones that are pulling the weight, and they’re strong identified as jews. They have a strong sense of what Israeli interests are. And jewish interests are supporting Israel. They’re right now in the driver’s seat, aren’t they? Well, then that may change. And I can’t predict the future.

 

Ford: Well okay. Thank you Kevin! I hope you feel that I treated you fairly. I mean, we’ve done a lot, …

 

MacDonald: Yeah I didn’t expect this, but it’s really good to get it out.

 

Ford: Okay, thank you so much for your time Kevin. I really appreciate it.

 

MacDonald: Thank you, I enjoyed it myself. Thank you.

 

Ford: Okay. Take care. Bye bye. So that was Kevin MacDonald the retired psychology professor and author of “The Culture of Critique” series, a jewish trilogy did and we’re dealing with the Nathan Cofnas critique of the Kevin MacDonald book, “The Culture of Critique”. And I invited Nathan Cofnas to come on the show, after checking with Kevin MacDonald. And Kevin MacDonald was absolutely fine with me inviting Nathan Cofnas on the show. But due to the time zone that Nathan Cofnas is in right now, this just did not work for him.

 

But Nathan did share with me a draft of his rebuttal to Kevin MacDonald’s rebuttal. And I’m not allowed to share this draft, but I am allowed to quote from it. So I’m gonna read a little of Kevin MacDonald and then I’m gonna read from Nathan Cofnas’ critique. And obviously I am a convert to Orthodox Judaism. I have a dog in this fight. I prefer positive explanations of jewish history and jewish behavior rather than negative ones.

 

[70:45]

 

[Image] Nathan Cofnas, who appeared later in the Hangout.

 

[Note: The hangout continued for another couple of hours with Cofnas appearing around the 138 minute mark.]

 

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[John Friend and Carolyn Yeager discuss the recent Greg Johnson vs Andrew Anglin “debate” where the “Holocaust” and Revisionism were some of the topics discussed.

John and Carolyn then take Kevin MacDonald and Greggy to the woodshed for their failure to man-up and confront the fraudulent nature of the “holocaust industry” that the jews have placed, like a millstone, around the necks of Whites.

The Revisionists have systematically and conclusively proven that the “Holocaust” is the “hoax of the 20th century“. What stands in the way of this becoming general public knowledge is organized jewry’s stranglehold over our governments and media, etc.

Between this proven hoax and the public’s  lack of awareness stand two prominent members of the White movement, who for reasons explored by Carolyn and John, make excuses for evading this fact, or worst, pretend with word play that it still “happened“.

As Carolyn and John discuss, the fraudulent “Holocaust” is central to organized jewry’s strategy of guilt tripping Whites to prevent them into moving towards White nationalism by linking it negatively to racial awareness, that then leads to “Nazism” and the inevitable “gassing of six million innocent jews“.

As such, it is essential that the White movement comes to grips with exposing the Holohoax for what it is, so that this massive psychological weapon, roadblock, can be neutralized.

Meanwhile the jews continue on with their genocidal plans to destroy the White race — KATANA.]

 

 

 

 

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The Realist Report

 

Carolyn Yeager

 

On the Johnson vs Anglin Debate

 

 

 

 

Click the link below to John’s blog post:

 

The Realist Report – Carolyn Yeager

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http://therealistreport.com/?powerpress_pinw=4424-podcast

 

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https://carolynyeager.net/system/files/Friend-Yeager_greggy_9-6-17.mp3

 

 

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Published on Sep 6, 2017

 

 

On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined once again by Carolyn Yeager. Carolyn and I focus on the recent debate between Andrew Anglin and Greg Johnson which focused on the importance and relevance of historical revisionism in the overall pro-White struggle. Carolyn and I both agree that revisionism is an essential aspect of the struggle for the White race, as our historical narrative – especially as it pertains to WWII, Adolf Hitler, and the so-called “Holocaust” of “6 million Jews” – has been entirely weaponized against our people. We also address a number of other related issues in this very important podcast.

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[00:38]

 

Voice over: You are listening to The Realist Report. And now your host, John Friend!

 

John: All right folks, welcome back to another edition of The Realist Report. This is your host John Friend. The website is The Realist Report dot com, where you can find an extensive archive of these pod casts as well as other radio broadcasts I have participated in, in the past. You can also find all of my blog posts and articles, a contact page, my Twitter feed, which is embedded on the right hand side of the website, and many other useful and important links. I am a regular reporter for American Free Press, America’s last real newspaper, and I also contribute to The Barnes Review, the bi-monthly history magazine affiliated with American Free Press. I encourage everyone listening to subscribe to both publications. Check out American Free Press dot net and The Barnes Review dot org for more details.

 

OK, with that said, let me introduce my special guest this evening. Carolyn Yeager is back once again to discuss a recent debate between Andrew Anglin and Greg Johnson. Which focuses on the importance and relevance of historical Revisionism in the overall pro-White struggle. A topic Carolyn and I have addressed in the past.

 

Carolyn, welcome back to the program! How are you this evening?

 

Carolyn: I’m just fine, John. Glad to be here.

 

John: Yes, good! I’m glad that you could join me. You wrote an article about this debate between Greg Johnson and Andrew Anglin which is over on Carolyn Yeager dot net. And I will link to it. I hope people go there and check it out. I think you have a lot of very important and good things to say about the debate. And really that’s going to be the main topic for this conversation. I will be honest, I did not listen to the entire debate. I think if you can find it on YouTube and you can also find it on, … There’s like a new alternative to YouTube from what I understand. I think it’s Bitchute, is that correct?

 

Carolyn: Yes.

 

John: Yes. You can find it [the debate] in multiple places. You have it linked on a couple of different, …

 

Carolyn: Yes. I have both of them linked.

 

John: Yes, over on your site. If you just Google it, you can find it. It’s been all over the place. It is a pretty interesting debate. Certainly worth checking out. Again I didn’t listen to the entire thing. I listened to most of it, and I mean, frankly I’ve basically heard what both Anglin and Johnson have to say about the subject, so it really wasn’t anything, …

 

[Image] The many faces of Andrew Anglin.

 

Carolyn: And then Anglin said, afterwards, that it wasn’t supposed to be a debate, but then afterwards they started calling it a debate. But I guess that was important to him, that he didn’t feel like he was in debate. You know, he wasn’t prepared, maybe, to debate anything. You know, but they did have interestingly pretty much opposing views when it came to “Holocaust” and revisionism, which is the part that I found interesting.

John: Right. Now there was a another debate that preceded the Anglin and Johnson debate, and that was between Greg Johnson and Vox Day. And they did a debate, and it was hosted by Terry McCarthy, who also hosted the debate between Anglin and Johnson.

 

[Image] Vox Day vs Greg Johnson debate.

 

In the Johnson and Vox Day debate, was a few weeks ago, I want to say, shortly after Charlottesville. And they were kind of addressing similar topics. They were talking about National Socialists and Nazis. How important, or relevant they are, like in the pro-White, Alt-Right movement, or whatever. And I’d listened to that too, again I didn’t listen to the entire thing, but I thought that was kind of interesting. Again, I’ve heard the arguments made by Johnson and Fox Day. So again, it wasn’t really anything, …

 

Carolyn: I had not before. It was sort of focused on Socialism in that debate, National Socialism and what Socialism meant, how to interpret it and so on.

 

And I listened to it, because you mentioned it to me. But I didn’t think much of it.

 

[05:14]

 

John: Yeah, you know, I really didn’t either. And even the Anglin and Johnson debate, I really wasn’t that impressed with either of them. So I mean, I agreed more with Anglin, but I think I would basically just present the information and present my perspective much differently than even Anglin would. I would explain it much differently and make different points than he would, than he did in this debate. Although I think he did OK. But I think I would have just handled it much differently.

 

So, I think overall, I would agree with Anglin.

 

Carolyn: The reason they had that, … According to Anglin, and it is true, was that Anglin complained that Greg Johnson had misrepresented him in the Johnson Vox Day debate. And so he said: “Well, you come on and we’ll talk about that.” And so in a couple places that’s when Johnson asked Andrew:

 

“Well, how did I misrepresent you, Andrew?”

 

And Andrew told him. He was prepared to say that. He had a couple different things that he thought were important. But then I don’t think Anglin had thought he was prepared to debate the “Holocaust” and, or Adolf Hitler, or anything like that. So, that’s why he said what he did, because maybe he would have done a different job, if he had gone there intending to debate that.

 

John: Okay, I get you.

 

Carolyn: He said what he thought, you know, I thought he did okay. But you’re right, he didn’t have some things right.

 

John: Yeah, I think overall he did pretty good.

 

Carolyn: Yeah.

 

John: And again I would certainly agree with Anglin over Greg Johnson, for sure, when it comes to this issue. So with that being said, I just want to say really quickly about Greg Johnson, because I think you’re going to be much more critical of him, than I will be.

 

I’ve been listening to and reading Greg Johnson for a number of years. I have one of his books, and I’m forgetting the title, off the top of my head. “New Right versus Old Right” I think that’s the name of it.

[Image] New Right vs Old Right by Greg Johnson. Click image to enlarge.

 

Carolyn: Yeah.

 

John: And I think Greg Johnson is a very, very smart man. He’s very articulate. I think he makes a lot of good arguments. His book I thought was really good, although there are certain sections, that I totally disagreed with. Including the article where he talks about the “Holocaust”. And it was actually the article that was published originally on The Occidental Observer dot net. It was basically the same article he wrote for the website, that was also published in the book.

 

And that’s an article that I’m sure we’ll bring up and talk about here as we proceed. But the book overall, was very good. I learned a lot from it. I think he makes a very good case for, you know, pro-White interests over all.

 

Again, I think he’s very articulate, very intelligent. I mean, the man’s a Ph D. He’s obviously, very smart. I just totally disagree with him when it comes to Revisionism and the “Holocaust”.

 

So, I just want to say that. I think he’s very smart, I think he is an asset to the movement overall. I just disagree with him. Then, of course, there’s also this debate, whether, or not he’s gay. And I don’t know if he is, or not.

 

Carolyn: John! John! That’s a definite fact! I mean, he didn’t want to talk about it for a long time, tried to avoid it and not talk about it. But he never denied it!

 

John: Right.

 

Carolyn: And it was Alex Linder who was trying to get him to deny it. And he didn’t do it. He was always walking around it. So, he’s even prides himself in being able to, you know, swerve around and make his arguments and come out with what he thinks is a winning argument. No matter what. It’s not based really on that he’s got all the facts right, or the facts on his side, but he just thinks he knows how to argue. And he said that. So, I think that there’s no doubt about that. He doesn’t want to say so, but he doesn’t fight it.

 

John: Right. And, you know, honestly I think you’re probably right, but again it’s not something that I frankly care too much about. It is what it is.

 

Carolyn: Let me say that I don’t care too much about him. I could leave him alone, but I do care about, as you know, about Revisionism. And I care about World War Two history, and I care about National Socialism. And when I hear him saying the things he does, I can’t, and I don’t think we should, just say, well that’s his opinion, he can have his opinion.

 

Naturally, he can have his opinion. But, I wouldn’t just let it pass it by and say it doesn’t matter. He’s good on other things. I think it does matter, because, as I’m going to try to point out here, the things that he says about it are totally ridiculous! And wrong! And uneducated!

 

John: Sure. I agree.

 

Carolyn: He makes this “great” argument. He makes this argument that just flips around. But, it’s not based on facts, and therefore it shouldn’t be respected, I don’t think.

 

[10:50]

 

 

John: OK. Yeah I sort of agree with you, I mean, pretty much. Before we get into the main topic, let’s actually just address this right off the bat. This issue of Johnson being gay. Because I’ve heard you argue in the article you wrote that his homosexuality seems to influence his thinking in his pro-White stance, and everything. So, how influential is his homosexual sexual identity in all of this? Do you think it has a huge role in his overall perspective?

 

Carolyn: Yeah, well I’ve said so and, you know, I realized when I was writing this, that I was just being way out there with talking about him actually giving the reasons for his thinking as his homosexuality, over and over, again. I knew I was doing that, and I didn’t actually get criticized for it. You know, to my face. But I thought I would. But then I thought, this just hits me so hard in everything that he says, while I kept to the “Holocaust” Revisionism, for the most part, and somewhat with the Hitler stuff.

 

It just strikes me so strongly that, that is the reasoning behind it. And this is not brand new, because I’ve said these things before, but I haven’t talked about Greg Johnson for a long time. And I don’t think, in a sense it’s none of my business what Greg Johnson is doing. But when he comes out publicly with this stuff on this topic, I just feel like I got to answer this, and I’ve got to say something.

 

John: Yes.

 

Carolyn: And there are some people who appreciate it.

 

John: No, definitely! I mean, every time I hear him, or Dr Kevin MacDonald, again two individuals I’ve learned a lot from, I respect. I think they’re certainly on our side, overall, but I just totally disagree with this. And I think it is a very important point. In fact, as you know, I often argue when I’m doing pod-casts when I’m writing, that the fake “Holocaust” story is the entire bedrock of this New World Order! This anti-White, White genocide agenda, jewish agenda. This is the heart of it. This is what drives all. It’s the paradigm that really shapes this and advances it. And I mean, I just don’t see how we can avoid it, if we are to confront these problems, and deal with them seriously. I don’t think that we can. And we will get into that as we, …

 

Carolyn: Yeah, I know you believe that John. But you’re also a very nice person, but also you are committed to the movement. You don’t want to criticize people. And I’m criticized for going out and criticizing people who some people think shouldn’t be criticized, especially Kevin MacDonald. And, you know, a couple weeks before this Johnson Anglin discussion, I wrote something* about Kevin MacDonald, which was longer than this.

 

[* See Carolyn’s Aug 8, 2017 blog post: “Kevin MacDonald on record saying whether the Holocaust actually happened is ‘not important’“]

[Image] Kevin MacDonald (pic taken at the 2016 NPI conference) and his landmark book on jews, “The Culture of Critique“.

 

He did a radio program with that, “non jewish” jew, and a girl there asked him about the “Holocaust” and Hitler and stuff. So he answered. And I was so shocked! Just thought his answers are pretty terrible. And I wrote about him about two years ago on the same topic, because a radio program* he did.

 

[* See Carolyn’s Nov 16, 2015 blog post: “The Heretics’ Hour: Kevin MacDonald’s problem with Holocaust revisionism“]

 

So these two men, … Now, MacDonald I always respected so much and I would never have, … Well he never talked about it, that I knew of in the past. But he did on these two occasions, because he was asked! And these were both, maybe since he was retired, I don’t know if he was retired the first one, but probably. And I thought, well that’s pretty ignorant! That’s not right. And so I made a noise about it, and I’m good at doing that. [John laughs]

 

John: Yes, you are.

 

Carolyn: That’s my role, I guess. So I have those two, that kind of go together in my mind. So when this came up with Greg Johnson, I thought, well I’m going to write something about this, too. Just to be fair! [chuckling]

 

 

[15:28]

 

 

John: Yeah, and I think it’s totally legitimate to have these discussions and to publicly disagree with other thought leaders, in the Alt-Right, or whatever. I think that’s totally fine. I think that’s healthy, really, what we should be doing, rather than engaging in drama, or gossip, and all this other crap. If we’re going to criticize somebody, …

 

Carolyn: We’re just ignoring it. Mostly, people don’t want to criticize someone like Kevin MacDonald, even over his views on “Holocaust” revisionism. But, it was a big hit, a lot of conversation about it. A lot of comments, a good thread about it and so on.

 

John: Right.

 

Carolyn: Anyway, like you, that is my big thing. And I’ve decided even more, and more, that when it comes down to it, that’s my big thing! And so, I’m going to push it as much as I can. And I don’t have the reach those guys do, but I can certainly say what I think about the misleading things they’re saying about it.

 

John: Yes, exactly. So, let’s get right into it. What were your overall thoughts on the debate? What points would you make?

 

Carolyn: Johnson said:

 

“No honest revisionist claims that the “Holocaust” never happened.”

 

And then he says:

 

“Robert Faurisson claims that the “Holocaust” never happened. But only by insisting on a particular definition.”

 

Those are his words. He says:

 

“His argument is too clever by half and cannot be taken seriously.”

 

He kept repeating:

 

“We don’t have to rehabilitate the Third Reich.”

 

And he said:

 

“You can say that we are Nazis, or you can say, ‘No, we’re not Nazis’, or you can say, ‘Nazis are not evil’, but you can’t say, …”

 

I don’t know, whatever.

 

John: Well, his main argument seemed to be that the pro-White struggle and having a pro-White identity, and just the overall pro-White message is in no way related to what happened during World War Two.

 

Carolyn: Right. Right.

 

John: that was his main thing. And theoretically what he’s saying is true! I mean, the fact that White people deserve their own countries, that there’s this very blatant anti-White, agenda that’s being advanced on every single White country. We’re being forced with all this mass immigration, forced multiculturalism, forced integration, all this anti-White propaganda, etc.

 

This is wrong, and our cause is totally legitimate. And is in no way related to, or tied to World War Two. That’s correct in theory, but that’s not the way it works in the real world, right?

 

 

[19:47]

 

 

Carolyn: Yeah, and everybody is familiar with that. You know, that is just a bunch of baloney, saying that. That’s fine for us to say, but nobody pays attention to it, as you just said, in the real world. So he kept saying:

 

“Well we can made this wonderful argument, that this is absurd what people are saying.”

 

To say what they call White supremacists, or just White identists, or White activists, are Nazis. That’s just so absurd on it’s face. That’s silly. And that’s not a good argument. First of all we can just ignore that, and just go on and do our thing whatever.

 

He doesn’t really have an answer to it. His whole answer to all of it, is to ignore it, in what he called in his article he wrote quite a number of years ago, that caused such a stir. He was using that phrase, “To step over it”. So we just “step over” the “Holocaust” and go on our way. And say it doesn’t have anything to do with us.

 

 

John: Right. But there’s no way to. I mean, theoretically you could, if you’re talking about it again from a theoretical perspective, …

 

Carolyn: Andrew Anglin countered that on that show, by saying that if we say we agree with everything Hitler said and did, which he does, you know, basically expects that people are going to do. If we agree with what Hitler did, we can’t then say that we have nothing to do with him. And he says that nobody’s going to fall for that. Nobody’s going to go along with that.

 

And Greg is saying, well he wouldn’t say that. He didn’t say those words, but that then leads him to trying to dismiss, get us away from Adolf Hitler’s National Socialism, too. Which he disagrees with. And that’s part of what the “New Right” is about, right?

 

John: Yeah. And from what I remember about the book, his main critique of the “Old Right” is that it was kind of brutal, and violent, and tyrannical. And I think that’s a totally distorted view of National Socialism.

 

Carolyn: Well it is. See now, that’s where the homosexuality comes in. That absolutely comes in there. He doesn’t like, … He was much more friendly toward Hitler and National Socialism, but he’s moved away from that, because he sees, or decided, or whatever, that this is over quite a number of years, that this is a government that could treat his group badly. And so therefore he rejects anything to do with fascism, you know, what we call fascism, or the Third Reich. He rejects it.

 

[Image] Heinrich Himmler talks of the problem with homosexuals in society. See: Heinrich Himmler on Homosexuality.

 

And to me, it’s because he’s afraid of the brutality, he’s afraid of the harshness. He doesn’t think that he could convince them that he’s a good guy and that they should leave him and his friends alone.

 

John: It’s almost as if he knows that he would be sort of excluded in a National Socialist type state, because he is a homosexual. And that’s kind of what motivates him. And that seems to be kind of the argument you’re making in your article. And I mean, it’s entirely valid. It certainly does seem to be sort of the case.

 

Carolyn: Well, I think that Greg has been so successful, financially, he takes in a lot of money. From the way I think, and the way you think, I’m pretty sure, as compared to how much money you have ever gotten, he gets a lot of money. I think he gets a lot from the homosexual community. Because, even though he was criticized for being homosexual, he wouldn’t admit to any of it. He published books by blatant homosexuals, like James O’Meara, who has been exposed on the Internet, cross-dressing, and doing a lot of weird things. Pictures and everything. And Jack Donovan, and he’s been very friendly, he was very friendly with him.

 

 

And I think he has a lot of writers. Although, I was looking at his site more recently, which I haven’t for a long time, and he’s got a lot of different people writing articles, there. I don’t know who they all are. But he had a lot of writers that I think, just from the sound of them, the way they wrote, what they wrote about, that I suspect they were homosexuals.

 

Now, your commenter, Tucker, thinks that I see homosexuals everywhere. I do, I guess, I may have a sensitively to them, because when I think that they are, I notice it. So, I just have my opinion, he depends a lot on the homosexual community, at least for money. And they send him a lot of money because he stands up and publishes their work, and so on.

 

 

[25:30]

 

[Image] Some of the homo imagery featured in Counter-Currents in the last 12 months. Click image to enlarge.

 

And he also, I don’t know so much now, but back when I was making a study of it, I noticed and pointed out that he had constantly photographs, you know, he has a picture with every little post announcement on his site. Way outnumbered photographs of men with a lot of muscles showing, and not wearing very much. Old classic pictures, [chuckling] classic paintings, and sculptures, and so on. He supposedly deals in the classics, but there’s all these men, the kind of pictures that homosexuals would like looking at. Would really love looking at. So the whole thing just all fits together. And when he would say something like, you know, let me find something that he actually said:

 

“It’s foolish for us to attack the enemy at their best defended points, …”

 

We’re now into revisionism.

 

“… Because we can make a case for White identity and White interests that doesn’t depend on whether or not the Nazis got it right, or wrong.”

 

Things like I, …

 

John: But I think he’s so wrong about that! Because any time you make a pro-White case, it’s inevitably going to be tied into Hitler, the Nazis and the “Holocaust”. I mean, the jews have been so successful with this fake story, it’s totally discredited any form of White identity, and they pathologize it. And it’s instantly tied in with this!

 

Carolyn: Yeah. And that’s why he wants to distance himself from National Socialism, and Hitler, as much as possible. And he thinks, says, that will work. But then he also said in this podcast:

 

“There are many things I think the National Socialists did wrong. And I do think that their plans for the Slavic east were really genocidal.”

 

Then he said that Plan Ost, which is on the famous Wikipedia page, was a fabrication, as far as he can tell. But he still considers the “Holocaust” a genocide against jews! Now what really gets me, and because we don’t have forever I’m going to jump to it.

 

In his article on his website that he wrote about the debate, he said some interesting things, and then this Ermin, … What’s his first name? Vince Irmin*, or something, who he published his book. Who wrote a book about Hitler, a kind of a friendly book about Hitler, and Greg’s company published it. He wrote a comment and said he thought Anglin was right.

* Vinson Irmin, “Some Thoughts on Hitler and Other Essays”. Foreword by Kevin MacDonald, edited by Greg Johnson (2012). Click image to enlarge.

 

He said, Anglin was doing the right thing by, making fun of the “Holocaust” and so on. And Greg wrote a reply to him and he said:

 

“The ‘Holocaust’ is a great big pile of dead jews, not a normative claim* that jewish suffering is more important than non-jewish suffering.”

 

[* “Normative” statements/claims present an account of how the world should be. The word contains the stem ‘norm’: something that should be lived up to; or that should be pursued.]

 

Sorry, I left out that this Irmin said that:

 

“The whole meaning of the ‘Holocaust’ is not genocide, but that it’s a claim of jews that their suffering, during World War Two was vastly more significant than any other suffering in history.”

 

Comment exchange between Johnson and Irmin. Click images to enlarge.

 

A very good point, which you would agree with, I’m sure. That’s really what it’s all about. They are so jealous of anybody else having any claims to having, … Then that will come up when we talk about the Poles, and the Pole’s demands now for reparations, if we get a chance to do that.

 

 

[30:00]

 

 

So, anyway, Greg answered that:

 

“The “Holocaust” is a great big pile of dead jews, not a normative claim that jewish suffering is more important than non-jews suffering. You can drop that moral absurdity, …”

 

Everything, he wants to call that way.

 

“But there’s still a great big pile of dead jews!”

 

John: But is there really Carolyn?

 

Carolyn: No!

 

John: No, there’s not. Exactly!

 

Carolyn: I mean what is a pile of, … The “Holocaust” has to be more than a pile of dead Jews! There’s piles of dead people of all kinds!

 

John: Exactly! There’s photos of piles of bodies that are presented to a very gullible traumatized public and were told:

 

“Oh! Hey look how evil the Nazis are! Look at all these dead people that died in these concentration camps!”

 

It’s never explained how these people died, what happened, what was going on at the time, there’s no context. It’s all very emotional and psychological exploitative propaganda, that is designed to instill and reinforce this fake narrative!

 

Carolyn: Right! And here is where I want to make the point that I made in the wrong place before, that he said that Andrew’s position — in this article he said this — Andrew’s position on the “Holocaust” boils down to:

 

“It never happened. But it should have.”

 

And he says this is completely indefensible. And I ask, what is “it”? Because I’m saying, my point I’m going to make here, is that you need to define what the “Holocaust” is. That’s why saying it’s a big pile of dead jews, doesn’t cut it!

 

And then Greg writes:

 

“First, to say it never happened is factually indefensible. No honest revisionist claims that the ‘Holocaust’ never happened.”

 

And then he says:

 

“Robert Faurisson, does claim this, but only by insisting on a particular definition. His argument is too clever by half, …”

 

[laughs] The pot calling the kettle black!

 

“… And cannot be taken seriously.”

 

Oh come on!

 

“Even if one grants every serious revisionist argument, what remains is ‘Holocaust’ enough for most people.”

 

Now this is just coming from that 2012, I think it was, long article titled, “Dealing with the “Holocaust” that he published at Occidental Observer. And MacDonald, turns out was totally in agreement with him and ends up coming out later with the very same arguments.

 

The Occidental Observer article (Jul 20, 2012) by Johnson titled “Dealing with the Holocaust“. Click image to enlarge. Note: the comments are not available to be viewed.

 

You know, the thing is Faurisson* is right. You have to have a definition for what you’re talking about! What is the “Holocaust”? You can’t talk about the “Holocaust” and then everybody talking about has a different idea what it is. And it’s just a big pile of dead jews, according to this very smart Ph. D., John! Who you say is such a smart man.

 

[* Robert Faurisson is one of Europe’s foremost Holocaust revisionist scholars]

Article (Aug 30, 2017) by Johnson on the “debate” with Andrew Anglin. Click image to enlarge.

 

John: No. I hear you. [Carolyn laughs] By the way, you’re referring to an article, and I’ve not read this article, I just found it on Counter hyphen Currents dot com. “My Conversation with Andrew Anglin”.

 

Carolyn: Right, right. I’ve got a link to it here.

 

John: I’ll link to that in this blog post, so people can go read what he has to say. It looks like it’s kind of his summary or concluding thoughts on his debate with Anglin.

 

Carolyn: Right.

 

John: One thing I wanted to ask you is, and Greg Johnson brought this up in the debate, he’s obviously not like an outright National Socialist, you know, he loves Hitler, etc. But, you know, he’s tries to be objective and fair and say:

 

“Oh well, the Nazis weren’t that bad, but they did do some things wrong.”

 

Carolyn, what exactly did Hitler and the Nazis do wrong? I’m trying to figure that out.

 

Carolyn: See, I don’t agree with that. He mentions that Operation Ost, or whatever it was called, they found some notes about it. There was kind of a plan, but they made all kinds of plans! That different people wrote out plans for the East when they took more control of it, and so on. That doesn’t mean they were ever carried [out], or they were going to be, quite in that way. And so there’s a whole lot made out of that. But then he admits that it’s a fabrication. But he thinks that still, he always says that the Nazis did things wrong. He said it in both the debate and in his article. But he can never really point out to what it is, but he thinks that they did exterminate jews! Now for him, that’s immoral.

 

 

[35:18]

 

 

He doesn’t say, you know, he’s supposed to be anti-jew, but that’s immoral. Well others, revisionists, say they didn’t exterminate jews and there was never a plan. Now this brings us to the definition of the “Holocaust”, which you’re very aware of, and a lot of people are, but let’s just go over real quick.

 

As Michael Shermer wrote in 2000, and he’s a jewish “Holocaust” apologist. He says:

 

“When historians talk about the “Holocaust” what they mean, is that about six million jews were killed in an intentional and systematic fashion by the Nazis using a number of different means, including gas chambers.”

 

[Image] Michael Shermer’s book “Denying History” in which he gives a standard definition of what is the “Holocaust“. Click image to enlarge.

 

And then Michael Berenbaum and Deborah Lipstadt, said the same thing. So have many, many others. And that’s known to be what they insist on! The jews themselves insist on that, for the “Holocaust”. They don’t let’s you change that, take away from the six million, or say that there was no plan, or intention to kill the jews. And Deborah Lipstadt says; “they were intended to kill every jew in Europe“, and things like that, you know. They have no evidence for that.

 

And that’s why someone like Greg Johnson doesn’t want to bring that up. Because he knows it can be debunked. But, at the same time he wants to say that there was a “Holocaust” and the Nazis are responsible for it, and that’s why we don’t want to be associated with them, or call ourselves Nazis. That is not the reason. That is all.
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[Image] Carlo Mattogno’s book “Fail: Denying History” in which he gives Shermer’s book “Denying History” a good thrashing. Click image to enlarge.

 

John: And that’s what’s so bizarre to me with, how a guy like Greg Johnson, this very smart man, an academic, a Ph. D. Kevin MacDonald the same thing. Richard Spencer as well. He’s kind of always pooh-poohed revisionism. He doesn’t think it’s important and relevant, at least from what I’ve heard from him in the past, in conversations I’ve had with him.

 

Carolyn: They all do the same thing!

 

John: Yeah, they all think we can “step over it”. We don’t have to address it. We can ignore it. It’s not relevant, or related to our current, …

 

Carolyn: And you know, I also think, I don’t want to make a fuss here, but I also think that Richard Spencer is basically homosexual. And I think there’s a problem with, now of course, Kevin isn’t, but I think there’s a problem with having so many homosexuals in the White movement, as leaders. I think there’s a problem with that personally. So, I just thought I’d bring it up, because it comes up.

 

John: It always does. And to my knowledge Richard Spencer is not a homosexual. That’s all I’ll say about it. I don’t think that he is. From what I understand he is married and he has a child and everything.

 

Carolyn: You can do that.

 

John: My point is, … Right, yeah. Anyways, my point is that these guys, these very smart guys, always dismiss Revisionism. They don’t think it’s important. But what’s bizarre to me is that Revisionism itself is very, very well founded, from a scholarly perspective, from an academic perspective. I mean, all of the books that have been written debunking, scientifically debunking, the “Holocaust” in virtually every single regard, every single aspect of the official “Holocaust” narrative is not true. I can confidently say that at this point. None of it is true! It’s all propaganda! It’s all, just this fake narrative!

 

 

Carolyn: And these guys avoid that! They don’t talk about it!

 

John: Exactly!

 

Carolyn: They don’t talk about it at all, and then they just say:

 

“Well I’m not convinced it didn’t happen.”

 

What kind of thing? They don’t let themselves be convinced. They won’t read anything!

 

John: And Johnson even argued in the debate that it’s like, “over the heads of most people” and it’s “too difficult to go through all this information”. And it’s like, no! It’s not! I mean, if you just stop and think about it and break it down.

 

 

[Image] Holocaust Handbook Series — 1 of 4.  Click image to enlarge.

 

As you were kind of explaining, the basic tenets of the official “Holocaust” narrative, are; six million jews, it was done in gas chambers, largely, and it was a systematic, coordinated plan, carried out by the Nazis. All three of those assertions are easily proven to be false!

 

I don’t understand, … It’s clear to me that they are just afraid of this topic! They’re avoiding it, because they think it’s bad PR. I think that’s really what it boils down to.

 

 

[40:01]

 

 

Carolyn: I used to say that, but now I go further, and I’m pretty convinced that they don’t like Nazism. They don’t like Hitler. And I’ve given my reasons for why Greg doesn’t. But Kevin doesn’t, because he just never has. He likes Americanism. He thinks we need to be American. He doesn’t want to go there.

 

John: It’s too taboo I think, for MacDonald especially.

 

Carolyn: Yeah, yeah. I think with Kevin, he personally doesn’t like anything to do with Nazis. It personally turns him off. He doesn’t like uniforms, he doesn’t like the swastika, he doesn’t like any of that. The way they behave. I mean, he really sincerely doesn’t like it, but that means he’s not looking at it, as he supposedly looks at history, in an honest objective manner. He doesn’t want us to get involved with that. And so, that’s why they don’t want to reconstruct, or revisit the “Holocaust”, because if the “Holocaust” didn’t happen then Hitler might be rehabilitated! And that’s the one thing they don’t want. They want Hitler to be the bad guy.

 

John: Yeah.

 

Carolyn: You see, some of us don’t want that. So we’re really at odds here!

 

John: I totally, …

 

Carolyn: I can’t just ignore that and say:

 

“Oh well, that is okay, I still support you.”

 

Because, to me, what they’re doing is keeping us in this bondage to the jews. And they’re helping the jews! They don’t want to help the jews, but they think they can ignore the “Holocaust” and National Socialism, the Third Reich, and move ahead with White identity. And talking about where the jews are wrong and this won’t hurt anything. But all of them, are much more tolerant of jews as friends and in the movement then what I would be.

 

Richard Spencer was talking in that video I linked you in that comment I wrote, that he thinks that mixed race people can be in the White movement and if they’re mostly White they can certainly, you know, adjust if they really are for us. That we can just accept all these people.

 

That’s too lax for me.

 

John: Yep, I hear you. And by the way, the comments that you’re referring, and you mentioned Tucker who is a commenter on my website, this is from our last pod cast. So if you go back in the archives you find the most recent conversation I had with you, you can find all the comments there and kind of see what we’re talking about.

 

Carolyn: Yeah.

 

John: Yeah. I mean, to me it just doesn’t make any sense how these are obviously very smart, educated men, can just dismiss all of this scholarly research done into the “Holocaust”, by guys like Germar Rudolf, for example, who is himself a scientist and a Ph. D. Robert Faurisson and many others, countless others! Check out The Barnes Review dot org for all the most classic “Holocaust” revisionists books. They’re all for sale. They’re all worth purchasing and reading in my view.

[Image] Holocaust Handbook Series — 2 of 4.  Click image to enlarge.

 

We’ve proven that this story is not true! We’ve proven it scientifically, we proven it from a very scholarly perspective. It’s really, in my view, not up for debate anymore. So it’s just a matter of these guys not taking the time to do the research, or just choosing to ignore this and downplay it! And you can’t! I mean, it’s very clear that you can’t! Try going, …

 

Carolyn: They don’t want that to be a part of their movement!

 

John: Right.

 

Carolyn: So to me, they’re dishonest about it. They won’t argue it. You know, they won’t talk, … They won’t say:

 

“Okay, I think this is wrong and this is why.”

 

They won’t argue those points. They don’t want to get into it. Because they don’t think they have a very good argument, so they just avoid it. And that I think is dishonest, and it’s not fair.

 

 

[44:57]

 

 

Now I came across something else at Counter-Currents, just yesterday, written by Kevin MacDonald in 2016, September. One year ago posted there, titled “The Alt-Right and the jews”. And most of it was just the usual thing that Kevin talks about with the jewish influence and how it ruling in our societies, and so on. But then he got into a little more specific things, and he said, which others have said:

 

“I think it’s fine that some organizations and some Alt-Right figures do not discuss jewish issues.”

 

Well that’s OK, but then, a few sentences later he said:

 

“I would love it if there could be an Alt-Right mass movement with significant jewish support.”

 

And then he gives some reasons why that’s probably not going to happen and why it might not work out so well. But it shows that’s just a different attitude, that he would like to see Jewish support.

 

[Image] Kmac’s article, “The Alt-Right and the jews” with a couple of critical comments. Click image to enlarge.

 

John: It’s incredible! I mean, it’s a naive attitude to think:

 

“Oh, maybe jews will finally be objective, like us, and realize that our message is legitimate, and righteous, and honest!”

 

No! The jews are never going to admit this! At least not in large numbers. There might be a couple individual jews who would maybe support the idea of a White ethnostate or, sort of go along with our perspective. But overall, the jews have made very clear as a collective racial entity, that they are very, very, and blatantly hostile to our interests, and hostile to the future prospects of our race! And, in fact, are doing everything in their power to bring about our destruction! They make this very clear. So to me it’s very naive. I don’t understand it.

 

Like, just one day, we are going to finally convince the jews that we have a righteous cause?

 

Carolyn: If they want to have some jews who they think would see it, … And here’s what he said:

 

“That jews would see it in their interest that White societies continue to be healthy, because that’s in the jews interests as they live there.”

 

You know, they don’t want them to deteriorate into all these minorities, factions, and so on then. He’s still talking about jewish interests. So jews are doing it, because it’s best for them, not because it’s in the interest of White people! Not because they identify as White, but only that they want to live in White countries and get along all right for themselves.

 

So that’s a totally different thing! Yes, it is very naive and it’s very much academic, I guess. You praise these guys, because their Ph D.’s, and then this is an attitude that more academics tend to have. You know, I still respect Kevin MacDonald a great deal. I mean, I’ve always liked him, but I just think that this needs to be said. And I actually hope that more people would look at all this and make comments about it and think about it.

 

John: Sure.

 

Carolyn: I think it’s very harmful to what we’re trying to do.

 

John: I’ll just say publicly, I don’t know if Kevin MacDonald, or Greg Johnson, or Richard Spencer would even listen to this, but if they do and they’re interested in discussing this with me, I’d be more than happy to have them on. I’m sure most people listening [know that] I’m not like this very hostile interviewer. I want to hear them out. I would probably challenge them, obviously.

 

Carolyn: Well I don’t think they would.

 

John: I don’t think so.

 

Carolyn: I sincerely doubt very much, because they don’t want to have to explain themselves. That’s why they do it, the way they do.

 

John: Well, all I would say is, to a guy like him, Kevin MacDonald, or Greg Johnson, or Spencer, anybody else who kind of goes along with their line of thinking, that we can avoid this issue, “step over it” as Johnson argues, … If you really do think that, that’s fine I guess. I would just say don’t, to use an Alt-Right expression, don’t counter signal revisionists, people that are critically investigating the fake “Holocaust” narrative.

 

[50:10]

 

There’s no need to! If you’re not interested in this topic, if you don’t think it’s important, then simply avoid it! But! Don’t accept the mainstream jewish narrative in any way! Just say:

 

“Hey look! It’s got nothing to do with what I’m saying. White people have rights. My pro-White ideas and views have nothing to do with Hitler, or Nazis, or the “Holocaust”. I don’t care about it! That happened seventy, eighty years ago. What I’m talking about is now!”

 

That’s all they have to do!

 

Carolyn: Right.

 

John: They don’t have to go along with the fake story, they don’t have to say:

 

“Oh well, Hitler did do some things wrong and jews were persecuted, and murdered.”

 

No! Just avoid it altogether! That to me is the best approach to take, if you are going to go along with Johnson, and MacDonald, and Spencer, and these other guys.

 

Carolyn: Well right. I said that in that article about MacDonald and his pod-casts, and it would be okay with me, if you just said:

 

“I don’t know anything about it. I haven’t studied it. I don’t like to talk about it, because I, have not studied the issue.”

 

And then that would be it. But instead, he did give some opinions. And then he made a silly comment:

 

“That I’ve never seen anything that convinced me.”

 

Well that’s just a dumb comment!

 

John: He’s not looking very hard then!

 

Carolyn: No! [laughing] No!

 

[Image] Revisionist “Holocaust” books. Click image to enlarge.

 

John: Because, I mean, Dr MacDonald, I’ll send you multiple books, … I mean, you can find this all out on the Internet! And see, that was another thing I wanted to bring up. Johnson kept arguing that to get our message across to people in a modern context, we don’t need to rehabilitate Hitler, or the Third Reich, or National Socialism, or anything like that.

 

I would disagree with that! I think that from an objective, truth-seeking perspective, it’s very clear that Hitler was a very righteous and honorable man! He was the greatest political statesman in modern Western history! I think you could say that, argue that very, very convincingly from a very objective, scholarly, perspective.

 

Carolyn: Yes. But you would have to have all your facts and figures at hand. That is not easy, but, yeah! Sure you could! Of course you could.

 

John: That’s true. And also I think that he still, …

 

Carolyn: Johnson says that, not because he knows that, or anything, but he says that, because he doesn’t want it! He doesn’t want it to be rehabilitated! Because he doesn’t want it to return.

 

John: Yeah.

 

Carolyn: In that way, that’s exactly what the jews don’t want. The jews don’t want Hitler to be rehabilitated more than they care about the “Holocaust”. The “Holocaust” is very important to them. But they don’t want Hitler to return or anything like that! So they’re in accord with that. And that’s why they want to keep the “Holocaust” in place, so they can say:

 

“Look! He’s responsible for this and we can’t have him. He was a bad guy!”

 

John: Right, exactly, yeah.

 

Carolyn: I’m sorry to say, they’re not coming from an honest place. They’re not coming from an honest, scholarly place. And in truth, the whole thing is that everybody comes from what they want to happen. It’s all about power! When you come down to it, history is all, who’s in power, and it’s not what’s true. You can find a lot about truth and what’s true and have different opinions. But in the overall, it’s who’s in power and that’s what it’s going to be.

 

So you have to change the power. And so someone like Andrew Anglin and his way dealing with that, I’m not saying he does it the best, but that way of dealing with it is in the end, it’s necessary. Because we agree, but we could talk with other people until we were blue in the face. And if they don’t want to change the way, their views of modern life are, they’re not going to go with it.

 

 

[54:57]

 

 

John: Right. Well really, it’s all about who controls the narrative, and the jews have control of the narrative when it comes to pretty much every major issue of importance. All of the issues that really form our paradigms for how we understand the world, how we understand our history. It’s all a jewish narrative. It’s a jewish approved narrative that advances jewish interests and delegitimizes White interests. I mean, that’s what it’s all about. It’s about controlling the narrative. And what is sad to me is that we’ve made so much progress in countering that jewish narrative, that weaponized, jewish narrative. Certainly within the past, since I’ve been involved in this movement, anyways. I mean, think about “Adolf Hitler, The Greatest Story Never Told”.

 

Carolyn: Right.

 

John: What a brilliant film! Very professionally done! Very, very powerful! Very, very moving! A great film, and it’s huge on YouTube. I mean, it’s been censored countless times. But I would venture to say that literally millions of people have seen that, and it has profoundly impacted them. It certainly did for me. And there’s many other documentaries, many other books that have been written, many other pod-casts. I mean, you’ve done a lot of work on this. I think you’ve played a huge role in rehabilitating the image of Hitler, and Nazis, and the WWII narrative, in general. And other people have as well.

 

Carolyn: Thank you.

 

John: And this work is so important! And we’ve made a lot of progress, we really have!

 

Carolyn: You’re right! I mean, that’s why we got to keep pushing! We’ve got to keep pushing it! I’m convinced of that now. That if I do anything, I’m going to just keep working on “Holocaust” revisionism, and also what I can do with Hitler. But mostly with this revisionism, because there is so much. I mean, it’s all been figured out, it’s all been debunked. It’s just a matter of getting people to pay attention.

 

[Image] Holocaust Handbook Series — 3 of 4.  Click image to enlarge.

 

You know, I was talking to you about my nephew and what I noticed with him, he’s very open-minded, very nonjudgmental, willing to look at things. But he doesn’t care all that much. I can tell. I sent him some things to read and look at, and he did. And then he said:

 

“Well, what about this and that, …”

 

And he wasn’t completely convinced by it. Well, when I came to it I was, like, ready to be convinced. I mean, I wanted to be convinced, I admit that. I wanted it to not be true. Other people wanted it to be, so it was different. But he’s kind of like just, he’s more interested in the Constitution and things like that. So I’m not going to press it, but I did sent him the book, “Debating the Holocaust”, and he said he would read it.

 

But, you know, you can’t force this down people. It’s not really what they think is most important, so even if he was convinced to some degree, which would at least be nice, it doesn’t mean he would become like me. [laughs]

 

John: Right. That’s how the vast majority of people are. And that’s why controlling the narrative, controlling how information is presented, whether it’s through the media, whether it’s through our educational establishment, it’s so important. And the jew again, the jews have a total stranglehold over this! At least in the official channels. I think we’re chipping away at that and sort of eroding that. Certainly within the past ten years, or so.

 

But that’s really what it’s all about. Most people don’t care about World War Two! They don’t care about the “Holocaust”. They don’t care about Hitler.

 

Carolyn: No.

 

John: They’re just been taught all these truly false and highly weaponized narratives about this period of our history, and they just accept it. It doesn’t mean much to them, but that’s just what they know, what they’ve been taught. And they don’t really think about it.

 

 

So could you imagine, rather than watching Schindler’s List, in seventh grade, when we were in our English class, we’re watching, you know, “Adolf Hitler, The Greatest Story Never Told”. Which is clearly much more objective and scholarly than any of these ridiculous “Holocaust” films.

 

 

Carolyn: Right.

 

John: And people would have a much different perspective, a much different outlook on everything! On life in general.

 

Carolyn: They would! Absolutely! That’s just absolutely true! So, this is where it’s at. It’s a tough battle, that’s what it is. But I just think, that when it comes to revisionism, if everybody in the White activist movement would get on board with it. And would talk in favor of it, it would make a big difference. I think it would, because lots of people just never mention it, that are influential. I just think it would be good, but obviously it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.

 

 

[60:19]

 

 

John: I completely agree with you. and I think that, again, more advice to people that kind of go along with Johnson, and MacDonald , and others. Look at this from strictly a free speech, freedom of expression, freedom of intellectual inquiry, think about it just from that perspective. I mean, we should be able to question the “Holocaust”! We should be able to critically examine it and to entertain other ideas, other perspectives about what really happened. Just that alone, I mean, just from a free speech perspective, …

 

Carolyn: Well, my nephew, …

 

John: You don’t have to agree with it, but you should be able to say:

 

“Hey look, I think the “Holocaust” really did happen! but if somebody wants to question it and do research into it, I fully support them in doing that.”

 

You know what I mean?

 

Carolyn: Yeah. my nephew did say, … He looked at all these great arguments and he was like, “Yeah, yeah, yeah.”

 

But then when I happened to bring up in passing, the laws against it in Europe, and how you couldn’t talk about it, you go to jail, he said:

 

“That’s one of the more convincing part of it, to me.”

 

Yeah!

 

John: Well, it is! It totally flies in the face of American traditions, you know, free speech, the First Amendment! It’s totally contrary to all that!

 

Carolyn: Yeah! Am I breaking up to you?

 

John: No.

 

Carolyn: Yours is breaking up to me, but maybe that doesn’t matter.

 

John: Okay. No. You’ve been crystal clear this entire time.

 

Carolyn: Okay.

 

John: Carolyn, I know we’re pretty much at the hour mark and we’re going to wrap up here in just a second. I just wanted to really emphasize the fact that this fake narrative, this fake “Holocaust” narrative, this hysterical, irrational, entirely unfounded, you know, demonization of Hitler and the Nazis. This narrative really is the bedrock of the entire New World Order agenda, the White genocide agenda, which are basically one and the same thing, right? This is so clear, so easy to demonstrate, that this is the case!

 

There’s a couple articles I just want to highlight and bring up here real quick. One of which was just published over at The Renegade Tribune, and it’s written by a man named, John Wear, who has actually contributed to The Barnes Review in the past, and I think The Barnes Review sells some of his books, if I’m not mistaken.

 

 

He wrote an article called “Why the Holocaust Story was Invented” and he lists a number of reasons that kind of explain the purpose of the fake “Holocaust” narrative. What agenda it’s advancing and, of course, the establishment of Israel, and the demonization of Germany, etc., There’s a number of arguments he makes. It’s very, very much worth reading. I don’t know if you caught that. I tweeted it out today.

 

I will also link it when I post, …

 

Carolyn: I read something by him, that maybe you sent to me?

 

John: It’s good, yeah.

 

Carolyn: I’m trying to remember it.

 

John: And this article this may be an older article, I’m not sure. I just saw it posted by Kyle Hunt at The Renegade Tribune. so it may be an article that John Wear wrote in the past, and he’s just reposting it. I know he does that often.

 

But it’s worth reading. it’s very good. I mean, …

 

Carolyn: Does he kind of hold off in certain areas, he’s not one hundred percent, or is this just in this thing I read? It seems like he was doing that. Maybe to be more acceptable, more convincing, or something? I don’t know. I can’t remember. I actually can’t remember exactly what it was. But would you say he kind of holds back a little bit, or not?

 

John: From what I can tell it doesn’t seem like that to me.

 

Carolyn: Okay.

 

John: I mean, maybe you wouldn’t be as forceful as we are when we talk about these subjects, but no, he seems pretty solid to me.

 

And this article is very good, it’s worth reading.

 

And then also, I wrote an article and, you know, I’ve been harping on this issue for a number of years. And this article goes back to April 26th of 2015. And it’s actually on my old blog, my old blogspot website, which amazingly is still up right now. If you go to it, it’s John Friends blog dot blogspot dot com. [johnfriendsblog.blogspot.com]

 

 

[65:00]

 

 

If you go to it, Google has that warning, you know, this is restricted content, or controversial content, or whatever. You have to click, “I understand and I Will Continue”. So they’re basically kind of censoring it. But anyways, you can still find it. And again I’ll link to this article as well.

 

And this article is titled, “Top jewish Leader Claims Entire Western World Culpable for the Holocau$t”*. And I just highlighted an article I found in the “Algemeine”, which is a jewish newspaper. Again, people who have followed my site know I highlight jewish newspapers and just what the jews actually say, just to expose their agenda and everything that they’re about. Because again, they openly admit these things and say exactly what they’re up to.

 

And this article in particular, I was highlighting, some comments that were made by Ron Lauder, who I believe still is the President of the World jewish Congress.

 

[* http:// johnfriendsblog.blogspot.com/2015/04/top-jewish-leader-claims-entire-western.html]

 

And this was right around the time of the, …

 

Carolyn: Whose name did you say?

 

John: Ron Lauder. Ronald Lauder.

 

Carolyn: Yeah.

 

John: Yeah, he’s a big time jew that is been involved in all this stuff for a long time. Anyways, he made a speech, this was at the seventieth anniversary of the liberation of Bergen-Belsen. And he’s basically arguing that literally the entire Western world is essentially responsible for the “Holocaust” happening. Because they didn’t do enough to help the jews!

 

 

And it’s just so incredible some of the statements that these jews make! You know, he’s demonizing the United States for, quote, unquote:

 

“Shutting it’s doors to jews that were trying to flee Europe. And no one was doing enough to help the poor jews in Europe, ” etc.,

 

It’s just, it’s so infuriating seeing what these jews say, and just how brazen they are!

 

Carolyn: They’ve got such balls, they are almost like, insane! It’s almost like they’re stupid! Because they come out with stuff like. It’s not going to be accepted. And it just reinforces the idea that Jewish deaths are more important than anybody else’s! If the whole world has to stop and be responsible for what happened here, for this huge number they came up with, this six million baloney! But I mean, sometimes they are talking to jews and they don’t think the rest of us are going to be paying any attention.

 

John: Yeah. That is true, and most people, …

 

Carolyn: But I can’t see how xxx jews would like that either?

 

John: And that’s the thing, most people don’t ever sit down and read jewish newspapers and jewish news outlets. Which is why I try to highlight them and say:

 

“Hey! Look these jews are saying this, not me! You can call me an anti-Semite, and a neo-Nazi and everything else, but all I’m doing is quoting jews themselves, OK? ”

 

Carolyn: Yeah.

It’s amazing the Jews are so important, that to say that the whole world, even to say all Europe and all Europeans are responsible for what happened to them! And then what? What does he say? What’s supposed to be done about it?

 

John: Well, unlimited money, unlimited sympathy, unlimited, just acquiescence to this jewish agenda to genocide our race.

 

Carolyn: Well, I think they want to pass laws against anti-semitism. I think that is what they’re after.

 

John: Yeah. Exactly.

 

Carolyn: And there’s nothing worse than that! To say:

 

“Oh yeah, it’s illegal! You’re going to go to jail if you express anything that we consider anti-semitic.”

 

And they’ve got a whole, … They’re working out what anti-semitism is. There’s a whole list of stuff. I mean, it’s all kinds of stuff! It includes criticizing Israel in various ways and so, you know, it just puts them totally, outside of anybody’s control in any way, shape, or form. And they can’t be harmed, nothing can happen to them in any way. So they’re not even responsible for obeying laws, or whatever.

 

So, they are just showing that they really do want extraordinary privileges.

 

John: Privilege! They talk about White privilege all the time! It’s really jewish privilege and [for] other minorities that they’ve elevated, and used as weapons against our race!

 

Yes no doubt! I mean, again it’s very clear if you just read what Jews have to say and listen to what they have to say.

 

 

[Image] Holocaust Handbook Series — 4 of 4.  Click image to enlarge.

 

 

[70:00]

 

 

Carolyn: I think sometimes we’re at war! That’s one thing that Hitler recognized. And people blame him for it, saying he shouldn’t have. This was a war and he couldn’t evade it. You have to go ahead and do it.

 

And we’re at war with these jews, and we can’t say:

 

“Oh well, let’s hope we can all get along! Let’s hope that some of them will be on our side.”

 

What? Five or six of them? [bursts out laughing]

 

John: Exactly! Exactly!

 

Carolyn: It’s just aversion for having to confront things. And of course for war, getting serious, … It’s no fun! It’s terrible! Of course we’d like to evade it! But sometimes you can’t, because you’re just going to be done in by it.

 

That’s probably one argument for what Hitler finally did about the jews in Germany. He went about it in such a mild way in the beginning! Just helping them out, you know, working with the Zionists that wanted to go somewhere else anyway. I don’t know, you know, … It built up, because of jews from around the world who didn’t want that to happen.

 

John: Yeah. Yeah again, and that’s what’s so incredible when you really have a good understanding of revisionism and all the research that’s been done to actually demonstrate that the Germans were not interested in killing jews, at all! They were interested in preserving their lives, because they wanted to use their labor in some of these labor camps.

 

Again, it’s like the total opposite of what we’ve been told. But again, the whole World War narrative is essentially the exact opposite of what we’ve been told!

 

But I wanted to also highlight one other article that I actually cite in this article that I mentioned. That’s on my blog. You can find you can find what I’m about to read there, and again I’ll link this when I post this program.

 

[Image] Ian Kagedan. Click image to enlarge.

 

There was an article written by a man named Ian Kagedan, I think is how you pronounce it. He was the former national director of the B’nai B’rth in Canada, and you wrote a very, very revealing op-ed in The Toronto Star, back in 1991. And the title of it is, get this Carolyn, I’m sure you’ve heard of this, “Memory of the Holocaust Central to New World Order”. That’s literally the title of the article, or of the op-ed.

 

“Central to New World Order“, right? I mean, this is the title of the article. It’s incredible! And he argues here, quote:

 

“The Holocau$t stands as Western civilizations greatest failure! It was a natural outcome of centuries of racism and of anti-Semitism. To deny the Holocau$t is to deny racism’s capacity to undercut our civilization’s basic values and to destroy democracy. Achieving our quest of a New [Jew] World Order depends on our learning the Holocau$t lessons.”

 

And what are the lessons of the “Holocaust”? I mean, again, this proves my point. The fake “Holocaust” narrative is literally the linchpin of the entire New World Order agenda! Which is simply a jewish plot to enslave the world, politically, economically and culturally, destroying all genuine national and racial distinctions in the process.

 

And the lessons of the “Holocaust”, which, of course, include “tolerance, diversity, anti-racism, multiculturalism”. The lessons of the “Holocaust” are specifically designed to erode, de-legitimizes and ultimately destroy any form of White racial identity, and to justify multiculturalism, and massive non-White immigration into the West. And to end all criticism of jews and the jewish state of Israel, and to equate it with anti-Semitism and hate speech. That’s what this is all about!

 

Carolyn: Yeah.

 

John: I mean, how could we avoid this Carolyn?

 

Carolyn: He makes it very clearly, doesn’t he? That’s a horrible picture! Total enslavement! You’re going to be programmed with this stuff and you’re going to believe it, or you’re on the outs. You’re somebody who’s bad, can’t exist in our societies. So you’d have to go into some bad place, or whatever.

 

And this is the kind of thing you have to fight! But these people will say:

 

“Oh! That is just that one guy. Nobody will ever fall for all that stuff!”

 

Well look at how much the world has fallen for it, now.

 

[75:13]

 

And I guess they can fall for the rest of it, if the media continues to be so controlled. I don’t want to bring this up, as I don’t want to take up any more time, but just to say real quickly, … Then there’s Trump, who is like somebody who’s, you know, standing against that, but he doesn’t have the power to overcome it. We all have to overcome it! We all have to do it. We have to say:

 

“God! We have to stop this!”

 

And that’s why people like, this is what I was going to say, but I couldn’t remember. Just this, that’s what people like MacDonald and Johnson are getting in the way of! They’re actually helping the jews in what they’re doing!

 

They need to be told this! They need to, … This needs to be pushed in their face, actually! I mean, rather than say:

 

“Oh well, we don’t want to say anything bad about them. We have to support them.”

 

John: Yeah, I completely with you. I would be willing to discuss this with any of them and make my opinions very clear. Not just opinions. Again, how could you, …

 

Carolyn: You know, I wish we could! John, here’s an idea. Somebody was talking about they’d like to have a debate with, … Mark. Mark Weber! You know Mark Weber, … Johnson got his ideas from Mark Weber, or Mark Weber helped him. Or maybe he didn’t mean to send him in that direction, altogether, but they got it from there. And they think that Mark Weber and David Irving gives them some support.

 

And MacDonald, I believe too, knows Mark Weber quite well. And they get those ideas from Mark Weber. And yet I just don’t think Mark Weber is so afraid of this, as they are.

 

Maybe we could get a conversation with Mark Weber? At one time Mark Weber wanted to talk on the phone with me, and discuss all these things. And I wouldn’t do it, because I was so in disagreement with him, and I though he was trying to make me see it his way. But I would talk to him now, but I would rather talk to him in public, on a public debate, a public forum, not necessarily a debate. And ask him some questions. I don’t know he’d be willing to do that, or not. But it just occurs to me that he might be more willing than MacDonald or Johnson would be.

 

John: Carolyn, I’m going to see if I can make that happen, because I actually know Mark Weber.

 

Carolyn: Good.

 

John: I’ll see what I can do on that front. Boy! that would be very, very interesting! [laughing]

 

Carolyn: Yeah!

 

John: Well. I’ll see what I can do. And I’ll certainly be in touch. We’re well past the hour now, but that’s okay, let’s go ahead and wrap up.

 

I just want to conclude by saying, I think from my perspective, which I think I could defend very well, … Objectively speaking, Hitler was in fact the greatest White leader in modern history! That’s very clear to me. I think we do need to rehabilitate his image, and I think we’ve done a good job at doing that, over the course of the past, say ten years, or whatever. Pro-White ideas and perspectives will always! Always! Always be tied to Hitler, to the Nazis, to the “Holocaust”! There’s no reason to avoid it, or to cower in fear about it! We are right! And we have the evidence and the proof to demonstrate that we’re right!

 

And, this is something we need to tackle head on! And if you don’t want to, if you disagree with me, don’t counter signal it! Just, avoid it! Step over it. Whatever you’ve got to do. But don’t accept this jewish nonsense about gas chambers, and jews were murdered in this and that.

 

[Image] Holocaust Myth Cartoon. Click image to enlarge.

 

It’s all bullshit! Everything the jews have to say about the “Holocaust” is utter bullshit! Designed specifically to advance jewish interests, and to delegitimize White racial interests! That is so clear, it’s so obvious, we should not even be debating this at this point.

 

That’s all I got to say Carolyn. Go ahead.

 

Carolyn: Well. I agree with you John! Good for you!

 

John: Thank you. [both laugh]

 

Well this has been fun, Carolyn. I’ll go ahead and post this up tonight, and I’ll see if I get Mark Weber to talk about this. That would be very interesting.

 

Carolyn: Good! Okay! Well, it’s been fun for me too! And so, I hope the listeners enjoy it. Thanks John.

 

John: Okay. Thank you very much! I will talk to you real soon.

 

Carolyn: Good.

 

John: All right. Good night.

 

 

[80:28]

 

 

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See Also:

 

 

The World’s First Anti-Holocaust Convention — Instauration Dec, 1979

An Open Letter to New Jersey’s Governor

Historians or Hoaxers?

House of Orwell

Misha: Surviving with Wolves or …

Bradley Smith’s Smith Report # 1

The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies

The Plum Cake

 

 

 

Auschwitz: Myths and Facts

Powers and Principalities XI – Ewen Cameron, MK-Ultra, Holocaust Revisionism — TRANSCRIPT

Tales of the Holohoax – A Historian’s Assessment – Part 1

The Holocaust Lie — Made in America

Probing the Holocaust: The Horror Explained — TRANSCRIPT

Jim Rizoli Interviews Prof Robert Faurisson, Oct 2015 — TRANSCRIPT

Holocaust Eyewitnesses: Is the Testimony Reliable?

Alain Soral – My Homage to Robert Faurisson, Oct 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Inside Auschwitz – You’ve never seen THIS before! — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

Amazion Bans 100s of Holocaust Revisionist Books!

AUSCHWITZ – A Personal Account by Thies Christophersen

Jim Rizoli Interviews Bradley Smith — TRANSCRIPT

London Forum – Alfred Schaefer – Psychological Warfare – TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report Interviews Eric Hunt — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio – Germar Rudolf – Persecution of Revisionists & Demographic Disaster – Part 1— TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio: Nicholas Kollerstrom — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice TV – Ingrid Carlqvist – Scandal in Sweden When Ingrid Questions the Unquestionable — TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report with Carolyn Yeager on Johnson vs Anglin debate — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

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[In yet another interesting interview Jim Rizoli talks with a well-known figure in the Revisionist movement, Hadding Scott. We learn about Hadding’s earlier years and how he first learnt from his mother the old saying, “Don’t believe everything that you hear!”

Then, we learn how he became aware of some of the character traits of jews from listening to the Larry King radio show. Hadding recounts it was in 1992 that he became finally convinced that the “Holocaust” was a myth after listening to a Dr. Willian Pierce radio show.

Further on, the matter of the “revisionists” who have moved away from revisionism, like Irving, Weber, Cole and now Eric Hunt, is discussed.

— KATANA]

 

 

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YouTube Description

 

 

Jim Rizoli interviews Hadding Scott, Feb 2017, discussing Hadding’s ‘awakening’ concerning revisionism of Iraq and then, of course, WWII.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_553gsl07TQ&feature=youtu.be

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UPDATE: Jul 2, 2022 – BitChute Video available here:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rQwBYc2s8vHJ/

 

 

Jim Rizoli

 

Interviews

 

Hadding Scott

 

 

 

Published on Feb 17, 2017

 

 

 

TRANSCRIPT

(47:40)

 

[00:00]

 

 

Jim: Hi everyone, Jim Rizoli here. And I have another special guest for the show today, it’s Hadding Scott. And we’re going to be discussing a little bit about his life and some of the things that he’s been doing. So let’s get started.

 

So Hadding again, welcome to the program.

 

Hadding: Well, hello!

 

Jim: First of all, the only, really thing I know about you is just in e-mails, I see coming here and there. And the biggest thing I know about you, I should say is, because my brother Joe. He was very much involved listening to your discussion about Henry Ford with Carolyn Yeager.

 

Hadding: Oh yeah, “The International Jew Study Hour”.

 

 

Jim: Right, right! So, maybe you can tell us a little bit, … I’ll tell you what, before we get into that, why don’t we, you know, find out a little bit about you. So, what would you consider yourself?

 

Hadding: Well, I really hate to see somebody prevail through lying! This is something that you could notice in various things that I’ve done. But, you know, I really came to “Holocaust” revisionism through other things.

 

Jim: Yup.

 

Hadding: My origin has a lot to do with, … My parents were about a generation older than people my age. I just born in the ninety sixties. My parents were born in the nineteen twenties. And my mother was raised by her grandparents who were born not very long aft the War Between the States. So I got a very old perspective from my mother. And my mother always used to say, “Don’t believe everything that you hear!” And she gave me another perspective, when I brought home what I learned about Abraham Lincoln in school. And she also told me that all the stories about the cruelty of slavery in the South were not true. That this was exaggeration. And that slaves generally, were treated very well. And that the war was not about slavery, right?

 

So this really is a nice analogy to Holocaust revisionist. And I grew up with that.

 

Jim: Are you a teacher or anything like that? Are you an academic person?

 

Hadding: I have been a teacher.

 

Jim: OK.

 

Hadding: Not presently.

 

Jim: OK. Well, basically you, you know, you’re like me. I mean, I, you know, I got into this, because I didn’t like lying! [laughing] So, you know, I didn’t like people saying things that were just completely absurd and they’re lying and I’m trying to figure out what, why are they saying this if it’s not true? So I could understand that. So what were the first things that you took up within your travel through life, here? What were some of the topics? I mean, you mentioned Abraham Lincoln. But I mean, what other things did you do?

 

Hadding: Well, I can tell you how I arrived at Holocaust revisionist, all right? From this dissident perspective that was inherent in my parentage and my upbringing, I was already accustomed to the idea that much of what we hear in mass media is not true. I grew up with that! Right? But I had other things still that I needed to learn. I needed to learn that there was lying also about the Second World War, because my parents didn’t really have any inkling of that. My mother was very well informed about how there was lying against the South, but not about lying against Germany. But it was not a big leap to think that there might have been lying against Germany. But a lot of this depends on what you think about the character of the jews. Right?

 

I grew up with this idea that the jews were pretty much like everybody else, except they had a different religion, and the [???] jews were victimized by some mass psychosis that swept over Germany. And you have to learn about the jews to understand that this is not really how it was. And the way that I became acquainted with the real character of the jews was by listening to the Larry King Radio Show on the Mutual Broadcasting Network, beginning around 1978 and into the early 1980s.

 

 

[05:01]

 

I used to, actually I dropped out of high school at a very early age, actually. I got away with that. And I would stay up all night listening to Larry King radio show. And this was a big eye opener for me, because Larry King from my perspective was insane! [Jim laughing]

 

This was a man who professed to believe in racial equality, whereas I as a Southerner, knew first hand that this was clearly not true! And I noticed other things about Larry King. Well for one thing he made no secret of being a jew. He talked about it often and he would have guests on his show all the time the he identified as jews and many of them were buddies from the old neighborhood in Brooklyn. You could learn from listening to the Larry King Show the character of New York City jews and the fact that jews were very prevalent in the mass media and had no shame about using their positions in mass media to promote specifically jewish interests.

 

And Larry King was also extremely unfair to callers that disagreed with him on these particular issues, like race, and, … Well, especially race. If you disagreed with racial equality, he was very likely to badger you until you became incoherent and then hang up on you and then play the Looney Tunes thing. Right? [Mimicking the Looney Tunes music]

 

This was extremely unfair and this was really how I learned about jews. I mean, it’s sort of like seeing the platonic form of something, you know, you see the platonic form and then you see how that form exists in it’s imperfect form and the others. So, Larry King was sort of “concentrated jew”. And I saw that there was a little bit of Larry King in a lot of jews!

 

Jim: Did you ever call into the show?

 

Hadding: I did a couple of times.

 

Jim: And what happened?

 

Hadding: It was a long time ago, … I managed to get some stuff out and got hung up on.

 

Jim: [Laughing] Yeah! So that was your bad introduction to jews. And he’s such a wack job anyway, that guy!

 

Hadding: The thing about Larry King is he’s completely different on television, compared to how he was on the radio.

 

Jim: Really?

 

Hadding: On television he’s very toned down. You don’t, you don’t get the shameless promotion of jewish interests on his television shows, that he used to do on the radio.

 

Jim: Did he ever talk about the “Holocaust” or anything like [it]?

 

 

Hadding: I’m sure that he had Simon Wiesenthal on there and Eli Weasel. But at that point I wasn’t really suspicious about the Holocaust. I believed in the Holocaust until the late nineteen eighties. I started to have some questions about it in the late nineteen eighties. All right? Before I started to question the Holocaust. I had become interested in psychology. And I read a lot of psychology books, and one of the books I read was by a Scottish psychiatrist named R. D. Laing. And R. D. Laing labeled and demonized, obviously Adolf Hitler and the National Socialists.

 

So, because of R. D. Laing I was open to the idea that Adolf Hitler and the National Socialists might have their own story. That what they did does not seem crazy, right? What they supposedly did, right?

 

So, before I arrived at questioning the Holocaust, I arrived at the position of trying to understand why this happened. What did the jews do to bring this on them? Right? That seemed to me a logical question. Now, I did know from having been exposed to Larry King and also some other experiences with jews, that it was entirely possible that there was exaggeration and distortion. But I still believed the “Holocaust” must have had at least some truth in it.

 

It was not until about 1992 that I was convinced that the Holocaust was false. I had started listening to short wave and the alternative media on short wave. Like Radio Free America with Tom Valentine, and I stumbled across also the American Dissident Voices radio program, which was usually Kevin Strong. But once a month Dr Pierce would make a broadcast. And I wrote to them because I was very interested in the fact that the way Dr Pierce talked about racial problems was very similar to the way that I talked about these things. And he presented a rational discussion of these things.

 

[10:16]

 

And I was certainly already open to the, … I knew from listening to Larry King that jews had a lot to do with these problems. That jews in the media push for racial equality! And I ordered books and magazines from them, and one of the magazines that I ordered was an issue of National Vanguard magazine from 1989. It had Adolf Hitler on the cover, it was the one hundredth birthday of Adolf Hitler issue of National Vanguard magazine. And that magazine had an article in it called, “The Evidence of the Prussian Blue”. I had heard and read before that before the Zundel Trial. I heard Ernst Zundel interviewed on Radio Free America with Tom Valentine.

 

I had read an article by Professor Robert Faurisson that somebody that reproduced. But, I wasn’t sure about how much of what they said I should believe! I didn’t know who Robert Faurisson was. He could have been a crazy man, for all I knew. He said that there was no chemical residue in the gas chambers and there should have been chemical residue in the gas chambers. Well, that’s a valid argument, but, it seems to be a valid argument, but I don’t know who is Robert Faurisson, what is his expertise? How can I be sure that there really should have been residue there. He just says that there should have been. How do I know it?

 

But with Dr Pierce, when I read it from him, I believed him, because he had a lot of credibility with me, because he spoke my language. I mean, in terms of how he talked about race and racial issues. And he also was a physicist, you know, he would know things like whether there should be cyanide residue in the bricks. You couldn’t fool him on these things and I knew he was a man who consistently told the truth. Therefore, when I read this very concise presentation about the Leuchter Report, from Dr Pierce, I was convinced. And he presented it very concisely. He talked about the blue staining in the bricks which was in the delousing chamber at Birkenau but not in Krema one in Auschwitz [I] nor in any other Krema’s [crematoria]. And this convinced me!

 

Jim: So that was a good awakening for you, to see that. Now how did you pursue it after that?

 

Hadding: I didn’t do very much was Holocaust revisionism after that until about 2002, 2003. During the propaganda for, war against Iraq. Because it was very clear at that time that Hitler comparisons and the invocation of the “Holocaust” played a very large role in this anti-Saddam Hussein propaganda. Saddam Hussein was supposed to have gassed the Kurdish, the Kurds, he’s supposed of gassed Kurds, Kurdish civilians, for no reason! It was just an unprovoked gassing of these poor Kurdish civilians! That Saddam Hussein was supposed to have done for no reason. And this was supposed to make Saddam Hussein like Hitler. And he wanted to conquer the whole world like Hitler, right? So they were all these comparisons of Saddam Hussein legend, which I knew to be false by that point about Adolf Hitler.

 

 

And I wrote some articles, in early 2003, before the US invasion, in which I debunked the propaganda about Saddam Hussein. It was not true that Saddam Hussein had gassed any Kurdish civilians! This was a story that originally had been put out by the Iranians. Because what happened was that the Iranians were attacking this town in northern Iraq called Fallujah and there was nobody in the town. But then some Kurdish rebels went into Fallujah and the Iranians thought they were Iraqi soldiers and shelled them with cyanide canisters. And the Iranians accidentally killed these Kurds in Fallujah. What happened aft the Iranians went Fallujah and saw the dead Kurds is that they blamed it on the Iraqis. And they called in journalists to see what happened there and they said, “Look what the Iraqis did!”

 

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If you read the early reports about this incident you can tell that they’re somewhat skeptical. The reports are somewhat skeptical what the Iranians say. The Iranians said there were five thousand dead Kurds killed by the Iraqis. The reporters said that they saw one hundred or so, bodies. This is the kind of initial reporting on Fallujah. But what happened after, Iraq came out of the war much stronger, as a sort of a regional superpower. jews started in with their anti-Saddam Hussein propaganda. It happened on September first, 1988.

 

There was an article, a news article and also an editorial by William Safire in the New York Times. In which William Safire mentions that this cyanide gas had been used to kill the Kurds at Fallujah was the same gas used at Auschwitz! George Herbert Walker Bush also made an explicit Hitler comparison. Compared Saddam Hussein to Hitler. And Saddam Hussein also returned the comparison, comparing George Herbert Walker Bush to Hitler! Everybody that you want to motivate people to attack apparently is just like Hitler.

 

So we have this war in 1991, but I’m perfectly willing to believe the Iraqi side of the story that April Glaspie, that the Kuwaitis provoked the Iraqis and that April Glaspie told them that the USA wouldn’t care if they invaded Iraq.

 

Also I found out the CIA had made a fake satellite photograph showing Iraqi tanks on the Saudi border to try to get the Saudis to support the whole project of invading Iraq, attacking Iraq. Which echoes, of course, the fake CIA photograph that was published in Life magazine of the fake aerial photograph of Auschwitz that was published in Life magazine, I think in 1977. That showed doctored photographs of Auschwitz with people lined up for the gas chamber.

 

Jim: I’d like to see that picture.

 

Hadding: Yeah! Well that’s online. You just do a search, “Life magazine Auschwitz”. You’ll find it. Actually, it had people standing on the corner of buildings in these lines that were lined up, to go into the gas chamber. It was a kind of sloppy alteration. And they also put in a wall to hide people, so that they could pretend these people going to be gassed were not seen by people outside of the camp. There was there was no such wall.

 

Jim: Right.

 

Hadding: Anyway, so this anti-Saddam Hussein propaganda about the gassed Kurds went on for fifteen years, until we had the invasion and overthrow of the Iraqi government in 2003. Really the gassed Kurds story was the basis of the whole propaganda. Because this is an observation that I’ve made about how propaganda works. Most people are so overwhelmed with information that they can’t bother to check everything that they hear, or even very much of what they hear.

 

So what people will do, is that they will take a few bits of information that they’ve heard and that they believe and they’ll construct a picture based on assumptions. So basically they try to see a pattern and fill out a picture based on that. In Gestalt psychology this is called “reifications” where you have a few, a few hints about what a shape might be and you can imagine that the shape is there. That’s called “reification”. It literally means “making the thing”, “thing making”.

 

 

So this tendency of people to fill out their knowledge gaps with imagination is exploited in propaganda. And the biggest way that they do this, is by misinforming people about somebody’s character. Once it was spread that Saddam Hussein had gassed the poor Kurds and had done it with no cause, people would believe that he could do anything! All right, this is a crazy man! A man who might very well have been involved in the 9/11 attacks!

 

You couldn’t really convince people that he wasn’t involved in the 9/11 attacks, because that would that would require checking the evidence and most people will never do that. But it would fit, … If people implied that he might have been involved in the 9/11 attacks they were very ready to believe it, because of what they had been told about Saddam Hussein’s character. And this is something that has to be addressed is also in regard to the Holocaust.

 

 

One thing that a lot of people in Revisionism seem to do, they seem to focus on these details about gas chambers and crematoria and they don’t really look at questions like, “What kinds of people were these that were accused of doing these things?” “What is the character of the people making the accusations?” That’s extremely important!

 

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Now, since 9/11 and actually since the late 1970s when people started becoming critical of the state of Israel, but especially since 9/11, there’s a lot less trust of jews, because a lot of people noticed after 9/11 that there was a lot of dishonesty.

 

I just had a conversation yesterday with a leftist. I asked him privately if you believed in the Holocaust. And he said he wasn’t sure, but he doesn’t trust jews. This guy’s a leftist! He says he doesn’t trust jews! Right? Because he doesn’t trust jews, he’s open to the possibility that the whole cause could be a big lie. Right? That’s very important! And this is something that has to be addressed if you’re trying to say that there was no Holocaust, while maintaining, “Oh yes! The Nazis were these horrible people!” you’re not going to be very convincing.

 

Jim: The big thing for you to understand how a lie could be propagated upon us and not be true, and I understand that too, … And I do I do believe you, what you say there about this psychology of this all too. There’s a lot more involved than that. That a lot of people don’t get into. I mean, I don’t get into it, because it’s hard, it’s hard to deal with that aspect of it, unless you show pictures [laughing] ., you know, what I mean?

 

I mean, you know, people, you could talk psychology all you wanted but it seems like it only resonates with a certain type of people, the psychology aspect of it. I mean, I think it’s a good aspect of it. Just like, what’s her name, Elizabeth Loftus. Is that her name? She’s the one that talks about the false memory syndrome. Have you ever hear of her?

 

 

Hadding: Yeah.

 

Jim: So I mean, she was saying, …

 

Hadding: I’ve heard of False Memory Syndrome.

 

Jim: Yeah. Well anyway, that’s, I think that’s who she is. And she’s the one that, you know, she went at it from that aspect. But she didn’t get into the “Holocaust”. She just gets into it from other people in life, but being a jew, she didn’t want to deal with that topic of the Holocaust, because obviously, you know, the tribes she belongs to, the tribe and that’s not going to be too good for her. So that’s why she never, … But that is an interesting topic if you ever wanted to find out about her. I think it’s Elizabeth Loftus.

 

 

Hadding: Well I’ll tell you another psychologist who wrote something that casts a lot of doubt on the Holocaust is Leon Festinger. He wrote “A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance”. This was published in 1957. And you really have to wonder what Festinger had in mind.

 

 

It’s irresistible to make the analogy, jews hearing the rumors in Auschwitz, or someplace like that. If they were, … If they had a bad conscience, if they really hated the Germans, if they were communists and had bad intentions and had been locked up in this camp. But were being treated way better than they expected, or way better than seem justified. They would be disposed to believe the same kind of rumors that these Japanese interned in these American camps believed. They had this rumor that they were being secretly killed and it was the same rumors that the jews had.

 

Jim: Can I ask you this about your relationship with Carolyn Yeager doing that real, you know, I guess it want on for what, months? Your thing about Henry Ford.

 

Hadding: Yeah, it was some 50 chapters.

 

Jim: Wow! So how long did that go on for?

 

Hadding: It was about a year, I guess.

 

Jim: Yeah, my brother, … I mean, the reason I know about that, is my brother Joe, he takes the mp3s and he listens to them when he drive. So he told me all about it and, you know, it’s a great way of understanding, or actually getting the book in without reading it, you know. Because sometimes people, they can’t read. My brother he, … And I do too. When I get on the plane I take mp3s and listen to them as I fly. You know, right now I’m listening to “The Myth of German Villainy”. Are you familiar with that book?

 

 

Hadding: No. Who wrote that?

 

Jim: Oh my goodness! Ben Bradberry. You have to get that book! If you want to understand World War Two, and prior to World War Two, World War One, and even prior to that from the 1850s on, what happened with Germany and the whole ten yards, you have to, … You have to read that book. Because you’ll get the best education on what really happened. And I think of all the books I’ve ever read, that probably has been the best one.

 

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I interviewed him actually, Ben Bradberry. You could probably do a search for it on You Tube “Ben Bradberry Jim Rizoli interview” But he’s been he’s been interviewed by Red Ice and Rense and all these other people, too. So he’s a phenomenal writer and the book, … I don’t even know how he wrote his book. There’s so much in this book. It’s like how does anybody get into so much information and put it into a book? I just can’t even comprehend it. But he did it.

 

So, yeah, if you ever get a chance definitely read that. I actually have it all online as a mp3 that I downloaded on the site, the archive site [https://archive.org/details/MRTAPMAN_gmail_MGV] that people can download it and listen to it, like I’m listening to it. But it’s like, how many hours, my goodness, I think it’s fourteen hours just audio. So it’s pretty long. But, I do recommend that.

 

But anyway, getting back to Carol Yeager. Have you done any more stuff with her, or what?

 

Hadding: She’s not doing very much these days, so she just posts articles on our blog, occasionally. She has this website called, January 27 [http: //jan27.org], you know, the “Holocaust” Revisionist Commemoration on International “Holocaust” Remembrance Day. I just wrote an essay for that.

 

 

Jim: Yeah, I saw that. It’s not Jan27.org is it? Is that it? Oh, that’s her site, then OK, all right

 

Hadding: “jan27.org”

 

Jim: Right. That’s a real good site there. So she basically, she hasn’t been doing much with, you know, online interviews and stuff anymore?

 

Hadding: I haven’t heard her do an interview in months.

 

Jim: Oh, OK. I mean, I know I was on her show some years ago. But I haven’t really heard much about her since, you know.

 

What do you think about, … Here’s something that we’ve been discussing here, Diane and I. We’ve been discussing what’s happening in the revisionist movement. A lot of people, well not a lot, but some pretty high ranking people in the movement are kind of recanting! They have [moved??] now. Like for instance Eric Hunt. You know, what do you think about what’s going on there?

 

Hadding: Well, Eric Hunt, I don’t know if it’s really “high ranking”. He’s got notoriety because he makes videos in which, I mean, he’s prominent, because he makes videos, …

 

Jim: Right.

 

Hadding: I think mostly, … Honestly I don’t pay a lot of attention to what other people do, but I’m sure mostly in his videos he summarizes other people’s findings.

 

Jim: Right.

 

Hadding: With Cole, he had an argument, …

 

Jim: Oh! David Cole, yeah, yeah, …

 

 

Hadding: And apparently he felt badly about his performance in the argument with Cole. And he felt he had been defeated, I guess. He said, “We really need to prove that those jews weren’t killed in the Action Reinhardt Camps!” Well, wait a second. The burden of proof is on the accuser, you know. That’s one of the reasons why I wrote this essay called, “Semi-revisionism is Dead” [https://jan27.org/semi-revisionism-is-dead] .

 

Jim: Yeah, I read it and it was excellent. I thought it was very good, but I think, … You know what’s happening with this conversation, OK, what I’m noticing anyway, is these, … I call them the “Holocaust”-hucksters and what they do is they turn the conversation on us, to prove something that didn’t happen!

 

Hadding: To prove it didn’t happen!

 

Jim: I mean, it’s like, how do you do that!? How do I prove something didn’t happen!? And their biggest thing is [laughing] if you ever get in the conversation is, “Where did the jews go if they weren’t executed?” and I’m saying to myself, “Who cares? I don’t care where they went!” they weren’t killed, that’s all I care about, you know. So that’s my, you know, my take on that. But, you know, now he in his last article I just saw, he writes all about, you know, the Reinhardt Camps and that people were killed in those camps, because, you know, “Where did they go if they want were killed?” And the thing that really bothers me is they make all these assumptions that, you know, the jews had to go somewhere if they weren’t killed, but they forget all the other information showing how ridiculous the hoax is!

 

Hadding: That’s right.

 

Jim: I mean, I don’t get it! I don’t understand how this guy can even look at himself in the mirror and think, “Well gee! Let’s talk about those Reinhardt Camps and, you know, find out where they get all that wood?” You know, how they do all this, you know, those, … How they burnt all these bodies just with lighting a match to a body and the whole body just incinerates, you know, “puff” and the whole pile goes up [laughing] just, you know, just like that! Yeah, I don’t know. I just get so aggravated when I hear it.

 

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But then, you know, I hear David Irving, he’s kind of capitulated not??? . Mark Weber, you know, he’s the same way, you know, he basically says, “While I think that millions of jews were killed, …” but he doesn’t get into how it happened. He just said it happened.

 

Hadding: I thought you humiliated Mark Weber by asking him, “How were they killed?” and he couldn’t answer that.

 

Jim: I mean, how do these guys show their face!? I mean, how do you, how do you make, … I mean, you know, I use a lot of IHR [Institute of Historical Review] material and, you know, the old stuff. And, you know, I’m always using it and then I talk to a guy that can’t even give me two facts that show that it happened! And that, you know, David Cole is the same way, you know. So yeah you got David Irving, David Cole and obviously, you know, Mark Webber and now we get Eric Hunt. You know, who’s next? You know, that goes, …

 

Hadding: Irving, Weber and Cole all have different motives. David Irving, he wants to have his career back, right. I don’t think he’s going to get it, but that seems to be, … I mean, that’s what somebody opined, somebody very well informed and prominent and famous, opined to me in 1996 when the “Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich” came out. David Irving wants his career back.

 

So that is why David Irving is espousing this semi-revisionism the continues the demonization of Goring and Goebbels and Himmler, .. But not Goring, but Himmler and Goebbels. But it’s really a reversion to the position that he had in the 1970s. That was always his position. That he constructed this drama where Hitler was doing good things and he had these evil men around him that were harming jews behind his back.

 

Jim: Right.

 

Hadding: But this is the kind of drama that David Irving has constructed. And really he’s just gone back to that. Mark Weber has a different motive, I think he just wants to avoid Holocaust revisionism and not discuss it to the extent that he can avoid it.

 

In the case of David Cole, … David Cole got involved in Holocaust revisionism only after the 1988 False News Trial when the Leuchter Report appeared and Leuchter testified and David Irving testified on behalf of Ernst Zundel. The holocaust industry was, in general, was in retreat at that point. And you could see this for example in Yehuda Bauer, his letter to The New York Times. An article about Yehuda Bauer to The New York Times followed by a letter from Yehuda Bauer, talking about the need to lower the death toll at Auschwitz, because those neo Nazi holocaust deniers, “They can count, you know!”

 

They realized that they were under a lot of scrutiny and criticism and that they needed to make revisions themselves to try to save their holy myth. And this is when David got involved! By his own account it was 1989 when he got involved. And the first time that the world heard anything about David Cole wasn’t until 1992. David Cole as a “Holocaust” revisionist.

 

By that time it was the period when Holocaust revisionism appeared to be this great chariot leading to victory, right? And, you know, that’s what David Irving clearly believed in 1988. He believed that revisionism would prevail within, he said, five to ten years. And then the history books could be rewritten. Well it didn’t turn out that way.

 

Jim: Right.

 

Hadding: But during that time David Cole got involved. He endorsed the findings to the Leuchter Report. And he made this video at Auschwitz, where he basically duplicated what other revisionists had already done. There’s really no new information, I don’t think, in Cole’s Auschwitz video. It is very well done, you know, it has a nice tempo to it and has good audio and it’s watchable. All right? But David Cole was basically just putting a jewish face on what others had already discovered.

 

Jim: Right.

 

Hadding: That’s what he was doing. It’s jewish damage control!

 

Jim: Right. I know Mark Weber, you know, I don’t know, maybe, you know, this, or not. I don’t know, but he inherited a lot of money, you know, in a settlement he got, you know, he actually inherited like, for the IHR.

 

Hadding: Carto.

 

Jim: Yeah and all that. He got several million dollars out of that. I mean, did, you know, that?

 

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Hadding: Well, I knew that there was this woman, I think, left a lot of money to the IHR.

 

Jim: Yes, she was part, …

 

Hadding: ??? And Carto had embezzled it and, …

 

Jim: Yeah, there’s a whole story there. But the bottom line was, the end result, was he inherited seven, I think seven and a half million dollars that went to IHR and that’s the reason why you don’t hear Mark Weber saying anything anymore. Because he’s got so much money that he’s just sitting on it and just waiting to retire and live happily ever after. So, and he’s not doing anything! No new books, no new writings, nothing! Because he’s pretty well set for life, now. I mean, that’s what I get out.

 

Hadding: Well, from what I see apparently he’s perfectly happy to travel and give a speech against the Zionist jewish power!

 

Jim: Right.

 

Hadding: He’s apparently happy to talks about Palestinians, but he doesn’t want to talk about the “Holocaust”.

 

Jim: Right. Well, that’s the point, you know, why, because he’s still, he’s still reaping money. He’s getting money that’s coming in from people that still donate to his cause and, you know, he, like I said, he doesn’t want to upset the apple cart with the, you know, maybe some of the jews even contribute to his cause that want him to keep quiet, you know, what I mean? [laughing].

 

Hadding: Who knows?

 

Jim: So I think, oh yes, I think, you know, I think that’s part of the issue there with him. But that’s sad because, you know, Germar Rudolf, he wrote a really good article about that. About what happened with all that. I just read that, I think the other day, you know, the whole relationship about revisionism and how money corrupts. And it sure has, because it keeps revisionism from doing more. Because, you know, if they have a lot of money they don’t have to do anything. And Germar, I think Germar out of all the revisionists, he’s the one I think is the top one now, you know, that’s really doing something and, you know, trying to make this work. Germar. I mean, he’s, that’s my opinion anyway, you know. I don’t know any other one that’s that’s doing anything as much as Germar.

 

Hadding: Oh sure. Faurisson some years ago referred to the amazing energy of Germar Rudolf, or something to that effect.

 

Jim: Yes, it’s phenomenal what he’s doing. And, you know, we interviewed, we went down to Pennsylvania and interviewed Germar and he was really a good man. I really like him and I just hope he can, … I mean, what really bothers me is you get these inheritances that come in to these organizations and you think the IHR would throw some money his way, you know, because of all the work that Germar has done, you know. But no, he doesn’t get anything from anybody. You know, he’s just poking along. It’s just sad! I hate to see that happen but, you know, it’s happening, you know. Anyway, but that’s, …

 

Hadding: Well, I don’t think. I just want to clarify. I don’t think that receiving money is what’s wrong with Mark Weber, all right. Mark Weber, I mean, this is according to Faurisson’s account. Mark Weber is a weak man! He’s a weak man. He’s not very brave. When they were in, I think, in Germany and police had detained Ernst Zundel. They were going to have, … I don’t remember the story now, but they were in Germany and they are in danger of being arrested and Mark Weber’s teeth were chattering!

 

Jim: Right.

 

Hadding: But, you know, Mark Weber he’s not a, just look at him. He does not convey strength.

 

Jim: Yeah, he at that point that you are talking about, I’m going to use a term that, there’s no other way I could use it any differently, … He was ready to shit his pants! OK! Because [laughing] he was so afraid of getting arrested and that’s what happened with him. So yeah. But, you know, I look at Fred Luechter and, you know, hey Fred, you know, he took it. I mean, he, you know, he was going to go to jail too and he hung in there. He eventually got out of there which was the smartest thing to do too.

 

But if he goes back there, they’re going to put him in jail [laughing] So, you know, Fred hung in there and he’s, you know, he’s not going back on any of his views about how things were done in the, you know, the Luechter Report and all that. And he suffered more than anybody, you know. So, you know, when I see these people talking about suffering like Eric Hunt, you know, my whole life has been topsy turvy by this and that. I just say, please!

 

 

Hadding: So you think that’s why he’s backing away from this?

 

Jim: Well, that’s what I think. I think even Germar said that too. But you got to understand too with David Cole, you know, they threatened David Cole. They had a hit on him, to kill him. You know, he was supposed to, he was going to be killed.

 

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Hadding: Yeah, it’s an interesting thing, they didn’t kill him, did they?

 

Jim: No, no, I know, yeah, because he talked to, what was his name?

 

Hadding: Irv, …

 

Jim: OK, OK. Irv Ruben, at the time anyway. He went to jail. He actually end up going to jail, but he actually end up talking to him and as far as I understand, the story what Cole said, he ended up paying him money or something, not to do anything to him. That’s the story that I heard. I thought I heard from Cole, when I was listening to one of Cole’s audios, videos, like we are doing now.

 

So, the point is it seems like a lot of these people might have been threatened, you know, I can understand that would cause a problem with you, but, you know, we’ve all suffered. I mean, I lost a business, because of the jews. So I mean, that’s life. You just get on and, you know, I know I didn’t stop. I actually got more, I got more involved with it. I didn’t get less involved in it, because now I have the time to put to it! You know, that’s that’s what I feel is important, you know, use your time wisely. And I think that’s what we all have to do you know.

 

Hadding: Well Irv Ruben has been dead for years now. I don’t think that Irv Ruben is the reason for what David Cole is doing now. I presented in my essay, “Semi-Revisionism is Dead” background that would support the interest that David Cole was never really interested in debunking the Holocaust, as such. That is never what he wanted to do. He tried, like Yehuda Bauer, he wanted to revise it to keep it alive.

 

Jim: Right.

 

Hadding: That’s my thesis.

 

Jim: Well, he got [???] too. After all that he ended up working for the “Holocaust” museum, or whatever. Somebody involved with that and he was doing videos for them. According to what David Cole says now. I’m telling you what David Cole said. After he went into hiding, he ended up doing stuff for the opposite cause, here. And doing videos and research for the pro-holocaust people.

 

Hadding: As Stein?

 

Jim: Yeah as Stein.

 

Hadding: OK.

 

Jim: Yeah, he changed his name. And then, you know, that’s what happened there. I mean, well, you know, what are you going to do? I really don’t care about him. I have no interest. I would like to interview him though and really hit him with, you know, some really tough questions, but I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen, you know. I’m not really worry about it.

 

So what, … Do you have like a website, do you like, have a blog site or anything like that?

 

Hadding: Yes, my main blog is The National Socialist Worldview. Its National hyphen Socialist hyphen Worldview dot blogspot dot com [http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com].

 

 

Jim: Oh OK. That’s good. So we can go to that and see what’s going on with you. Like you post things there all the time, or something, or keep it up?

 

Hadding: Yeah. I try to post at least one thing a week but, you know, sometimes it’s only one thing a month. If I get working on something for CODOH it might keep me from posting on my blog for a while.

 

Jim: Yeah. So explain to me a little bit about CODOH. So you do stuff with them and who is running CODOH now?

 

Hadding: Germar Rudolf!

 

Jim: OK. So Germar is running it and how’s that going?

 

Hadding: It’s a good gig., you know, I wasn’t really, … It pays a little less than the Occidental Observer, but the Occidental Observer won’t publish my stuff anymore. And I get published much more regularly on CODOH than I could on the Occidental Observer. I use this to pay my bills.

 

Jim: Right, right. Who runs the Occidental Observer?

 

Hadding: That’s Kevin MacDonald. MacDonald is afraid of, seems to be afraid of, that subject.

 

Jim: Well, you got to understand that if he takes that topic on he’s going to be dead, just like Irving!

 

Hadding: Well, he’s retired, so what does he have to lose?

 

Jim: Oh, is that what it is. OK, well I can understand that. So, well that’s good. So, I mean, I just started going to the CODOH site looking up more things. I mean, that’s a great site. I mean, a lot of information there, you know. We, you know, we’re revisionists, I mean, we have a tremendous amount of information out there, you know, the “Holocaust” handbooks. I mean, my goodness. I mean, there’s so much stuff there. The problem is the majority of people out there don’t get to see it because, you know, you can’t get it out there. I mean, you know, you have to look for it deep down in the Internet to find it. But it’s there if people, you know, want to look at it, you know. We can we can definitely look at it.

 

[44:51]

 

So, basically, you know, you’re just biding your time. Just, you know, writing things as they come. I mean again we, you know, we enjoy what you write. I mean, you know, you’re a good writer. You know, you have a nice, you know, style and insight. I would say about things and I think that’s important that people, you know, see that stuff. I mean, that article you wrote about, you know, the three revisionist, what was it, three revisionist you took up?

 

Hadding: Yes, “Semi-Revisionism is Dead” is the name of it.

 

Jim: Yes, that was a super article! That was a great article, you know. So anytime you get something, you know, a new, .. Well you send them my way anyway, so we get what you’re doing now. So that’s important.

 

Well, anything else you have you like to, … What do you think, what do you think the future is for us? You know, the movement, you know, revisionism, the truth movement and all that?

 

Hadding: I think that we have some people falling away from Holocaust revisionist right now that maybe hadn’t really thought through their position very well initially. Maybe their commitment wasn’t very deep to begin with. So I wouldn’t worry about that too much. I just worry about what I’m doing and trying to make sure what I’m doing the right thing. And keep doing it. And as long as I can get by and pay my bills and have enough to eat while I’m doing the right thing that is what I keep doing.

 

Jim: Right, right. Well, I agree. I’m the same way. You know, I was saying to Diane, I was saying I don’t, I really don’t care what anybody even the revisionist views are! I know common sense! You know, me I can read and I can understand common sense and if someone wants to go back on common sense and go to stupidity and believe things that just can’t happen I mean, that’s that’s up to them! I just feel sorry for them that they can’t stick it out and do what’s right.

 

But, well look, I really appreciate that you came on with us today. Again you contribute a lot to the cause! I just want to let, you know, that, OK!

 

Hadding: Thank you very much.

 

Jim: Yeah, I mean, you’re a good man and, you know, keep continuing on and don’t let anybody discourage you. I know financially, you know, things could be better, but it could be like that for all of us to, I suppose. But the truth is the truth! And no matter what the topic is you’ve got to let people know about it. I don’t care what the consequences are, you’ve got to just let everybody, you know, deal with it and go along with it, you know.

 

Well look, Hadding, thank you very much for our interview. Good luck with what you’re doing and, you know, another time we’ll probably try to talk to you again when something else comes up that, we know, we can talk about too.

 

Hadding: All right. Well, thank you very much.

 

Jim: All right. Bye now!

 

 

 

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