Sargon of Akkad – katana17 https://katana17.com Replaces katana17.wordpress.com blog Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:38:59 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 Millennial Woes – A Gram of Woes No 45 – Nov 7, 2023 – Transcript https://katana17.com/2023/11/11/millennial-woes-a-gram-of-woes-no-45-nov-7-2023-transcript/ https://katana17.com/2023/11/11/millennial-woes-a-gram-of-woes-no-45-nov-7-2023-transcript/#respond Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:18:19 +0000 https://katana17.com/?p=34989 Continue reading →]]>

 

Millennial Woes

 

A Gram of Woes No 45

 

 

Tue, Nov 7, 2023

 

[Woes does an interesting round up of current events and his take on things, especially Tommy Robinson and his plans for a counter protest against pro-Palestinian protesters in London on Sat, Nov 11.

It was also very good to see Woes get stuck into that stuck-up Douglas Murray and his usual self-righteous display of grovelling suck-up to zionist power, the very people causing the destruction of the West that he claims to bemoan!

– KATANA]

 

 

 

https://odysee.com/@millennialwoes:4/Gram202345:a

 

Published on Tue, Nov 7, 2023

 

Description

 

A Gram of Woes: 7th November 2023
November 8, 2023
1,837 views
135
8
Support
Save
Repost
Share
Millennial Woes
@millennialwoes
11K followers
Join
Follow
https://www.millennialwoes.com/gram
00:00:23
Tommy vs the Palestinauts
00:40:09
Peter Hitchens walks out of interview
00:42:03
Halloween and Guy Fawkes Night
00:46:21
Support genocide or you’re an anti-Semite
00:48:43
Saudi Arabia condemns Israeli hate-mongering
00:49:38
Audrey Hale manifesto
00:52:32
The British state stoking tensions
00:53:11
AfD declared an extremist organisation
00:54:26
European confederacy and petty nationalism
01:01:18
Have we reached peak Jewish power?
01:15:21
Israel and the future
01:15:48
A circus of fauxism
01:17:30
Personal disorganisation
01:17:50
Western civilisation is now a chimera
01:18:12
Swindon woes
01:26:21
Token black luminaries
01:27:52
Smoking Ban Redux
License
Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode
File size
160.03 MB
Less
0
50 comments

_____________

 

TRANSCRIPT QUALITY = 4 Stars

1 Star — Poor quality with many errors, contains nonsense text 2 Stars — Low quality with many errors, some nonsense text. 3 Stars — Medium quality with some errors. 4 Stars — Good quality with only a few errors. 5 Stars — High quality with few to no errors.

NOTE: Users can help improve the quality of this transcript by putting corrections in the Comment section. Thanks.

 

 

 

TRANSCRIPT

(Words: 11,916 – 1:30:37 mins)

  

 

2023, Week 45.

 

Hello, everyone, and welcome to A Gram of Woes, on regularly, Tuesday the 7th of November 2023.

 

So there’s a lot to talk about actually, I have a lot of things:

 

“Woes. With the news that pro-Palestine demonstrations are set to take place in London on Armistice Day and a Patriot counter-protest planned, how do you see the events playing out?”

 

“Most of us know it’s a trap, but it feels impossible sometimes to get through to the Patriot crowd, who care little for the realities of the situation and always reply with, ‘So we do nothing?’, when warned to stay away from London on Saturday. What adds more suspicion into the mix is that Tommy Robinson’s Twitter account has been reinstated at a terribly convenient time.”

 

Well, that gets us into a number of the things that I wanted to talk about.

 

So the Gaza thing continues. There are some awful pictures and footage that have come out recently. I try to avoid them, but it’s kind of difficult when you’re on social media. It continues, it gets worse. Tensions around the whole thing in terms of the conflict spreading, seem to have lessened somewhat since last week, I think because, well, I don’t know, I guess the time has sort of, sort of passed. There hadn’t been escalations, basically.

 

So Russia isn’t getting involved, China isn’t getting involved. Russia, I did see something that they were giving some sort of weaponry or defense system. I think it was a defense system to the Palestinians, but that’s all I’ve seen. And then Yemen did declare war, apparently declared war on Israel, but I’ve heard no more about that. So maybe that was fake?

 

So the point is that we don’t seem to be looking at World War Three, which is obviously a relief. But at the same time, that means more of this corrupt system will go on and on for the foreseeable future.

 

So that’s the general situation.

 

However, the split between Zionists and their supporters and their opponents has only deepened in the last week.

 

So you’ve got a real divide here! A huge divide now! Between what has been called the Left and the mainstream media and certainly the political establishment in every country. The mainstream media is actually being. I wouldn’t say fair, but it’s not being entirely pro-Zionist. Even the BBC is being fairly even handed.

 

So it’s an interesting thing where for the first time, you’ve got a sort of bifurcation in the mainstream for the first time in a long time. I mean, Covid, Ukraine, climate change, LGBT and the migrant crisis for the last ten years at least, the mainstream has very much been one unified entity. It’s kind of weird that it would take this issue to rupture that. Of course, they’ll still be united in all of those other issues, but this is different.

 

[04:023]

 

I also think that it has changed people’s view of Israel, and especially Zionism. I think that it suffered a huge amount of PR damage. And that is why it was interesting that several high profile Twitter accounts were reinstated over the last week because of the PR damage done to Israel and Zionism. It’s very interesting that Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins, and I think there was a third one, I’m forgetting now, got reinstated on Twitter. Which means unsuspended, got their accounts back with all their followers.

 

And I think that Tommy Robinson has about 300,000 followers, something like that. He’s big on there and he’s been on Telegram ever since, with, I think, 150,000 followers on there ever since. But upon being reinstated, he said:

 

“It’s nice to have a voice again.”

 

Which is interesting and rather depressing about how realistically Telegram fits into the ecosystem of social media. Because ultimately it is public, technically, but the general public aren’t there, whereas Twitter is much more open. I mean, you will see a tweet being shared and talked about in the media. You won’t see a Telegram post. They won’t be quoting a Telegram post in a Times article or something like that.

 

So anyway. And he was welcomed back. Tommy was welcomed back to Twitter by numerous people, including Sargon of Akad. There’s a screenshot doing the rounds of, you know, it just feels like we’re back in time! We’re so back in time, to coin a phrase. And it’s tedious and tiresome and fucking annoying! It could be 2015 again. And not in a good way, not in the optimism. Well, not 2015, 16, the optimism. No, this is 2015, 16, let’s moan about Muslims!

 

To get back to the whole thing, because there are numerous facets here.

 

So the tensions, the pro-Palestine demonstrations spreading all over the West, getting very large. And then it was announced that there would be a large, a really big one on Remembrance Day [Armistice Day] on the 11 November, which is obviously commemorating the war days, especially the two World wars, the Poppy and so on.

 

And it’s something that’s sort of intrinsic to British culture, certainly all of my lifetime, since the First World War, so over 100 years. It’s something that matters to us. It’s one of those traditions that binds us together, even those of us who certainly were not alive at that time or even the Second World War. This has been one of those staples of British culture which matters! Not that the remembrance itself about war obviously matters, but I think another way in which this matters is that it is a British tradition.

 

So it’s something for the British people especially, really only the indigenous British people. Because all the migrants, all the immigrants weren’t here. They were not here 100 years ago or even for the Second World War.

 

So this is not for them. It’s very much our heritage!

 

[08:01]

 

So when the pro-Palestine people say that they’re going to basically gate crash this, that’s not just uncouth, rude, it’s also perceived as anti-British. And there will be a contingent among them for whom it’s not anti-British like, they’re British Lefties who want to use Remembrance Sunday to bring awareness to their issue. But a great number of them, it will be anti-British because they won’t be British in any real sense.

 

And of course, this is a good example of how this whole issue is bringing to people’s minds the idea that these migrants are not really British, that they haven’t really integrated, that they don’t really care about the country or its culture or heritage. And so multiculturalism does not work! The real issue is that mass immigration does not work. But they’ll blame it on multiculturalism, which is the allowed euphemism here. They’ll say, well, if only they integrated, not multiculturalism:

 

“If they integrated into British culture, then everything would be okay. But in the meantime, we will be angry at them for not integrating.”

 

So this is the reaction that you’re now seeing from the other side. And cue Tommy. So he’s allowed back on Twitter! And apparently Elon Musk actually had a private meeting with Rishi Sunak just a few days before this happened.

 

So it’s going to kick off big time? Well, that’s what people are saying. That’s what the mainstream media are saying. They’re fears of a far-Right.

 

Of course, Tommy Robinson is called far-Right. So he’s associated with nationalism, with the dissident Right, the Alt-Right. Very annoying! Because the man is a dumpling. Worse than that, he’s not just thick. Well, he’s not just the class dunce. He’s the class clown as well.

 

In other words, he’s not just thick, he’s an attention seeker. He thrives on this. And he thrives on chaos and drama, which is why his crowd was always just absolutely rife with drama, like a soap opera. Because that’s the kind of person he is.

 

And he doesn’t really, I don’t think he really understands much, but he doesn’t need to. He does understand that some brown people aren’t like us. And that’s really it:

 

“Some brown people rape our daughters and sisters. Well, they should integrate. They should integrate more and then they wouldn’t rape our daughters and sisters!”

 

It’s fucking grug, grug stuff! And not even true! At least if it were accurate, you could say, well, it’s basic and stupid, but it’s true. It’s not true! And it is delusional about the reality of, well, different people’s identity, religion, race and so on.

 

The only way for them to really integrate is for us to be dissolved and them. So it’s a dreadful situation in which there is no other solution but for them to leave the country. That’s really the only solution here. Well, from my perspective. From their perspective, the solution is for me and all of us to dissolve into them.

 

[11:55]

 

But I don’t see that as a solution. I see that as a travesty!

 

So anyway, to get back to all this, I don’t think he understands much, but he does understand., … He is a natural leader, although he doesn’t have any strategy or brains or whatever, he does have charisma and he does love attention and he loves to be important. And people like him. For all his flaws, he is a likable character, on the surface. So he’s friendly, he’s outgoing, he’s loud, he likes a laugh, he’s a lad! So people warm to him.

 

So anyway, he is back on Twitter! And one of the first things he says is that literally, one of the first things he said, having got his Twitter back, was that he was going to “rally a nation” and specifically in the Remembrance Day event.

 

So it’s a counterprotest to the counterprotest, I’ll be specific. It’s like “patriotic” in inverted commas. Counterprotest to the pro-Palestine counterprotest to remembrance Sunday. So they’re saying that they’re going to protect our statues and all that.

 

Now, the word patriotic, we should be careful about this because in a low brow sense, these guys, these Tommy fans, are patriotic in the most basic sense. They do care about their country, their kin, their local town. They’re very sort of basic, simple people who don’t understand any of the abstractions that are going on! They just want the people they know to be safe. And increasingly the people they know will be multiracial and mixed race, but they just want them to be safe. And that’s really all the thinking that there is.

 

But that is a form of patriotism!

 

So when I say “patriotic” and inverted commas, it’s not exactly fair. They are actually enacting that instinct to protect homeland and kith and kin [one’s acquaintances and relatives]. That is the heart of patriotism. But unfortunately, the fact that it is grug and low brow matters, because it leaves them vulnerable to being manipulated and used like cannon fodder. And I think that’s what’s happening here.

 

Now, whether there will be violence at this. I mean, there will be some violence that’s just inevitable when you’ve got a bunch of drunk North FC types and a bunch of pro-Palestine [chuckling] Arabs facing off in central London. Yeah, there will be some violence for sure.

 

What I think is there might even be like a stabbing, something like that. But what I think is there won’t be major violence. I think this will turn out to be something where the mainstream media has got everyone worked up about it in expectation, and then actually it will pass largely without much bloodshed.

 

[15:27]

 

But the point is that the point will have been made, right? I don’t think they actually need much violence in order to make the point, which is:

 

“These brown people are bad because they don’t support the jews! They don’t support Zionism! I’ve got a jewish friend, he’s just like anyone else. He’s very upset about what these brown people are doing!”

 

Et cetera. That’s the point that will be made here. And that’s all that it’s supposed to make. That’s all that it’s supposed to do.

 

And that’s why Tommy Robinson has been reinstated on Twitter and why the mainstream media is crowing about this, about this whole thing, the counter-protest and the counter counter-protest.

 

I think it’s all orchestrated. And Morgoth put a good article out today when he talked about the Behavioural Insights Team, the Nudge Unit. And he made this very interesting observation that the Nudge Unit is used to pacify people. That’s basically what it’s done. The purposes to which it’s been put have all been to calm people down, get them to just do as they’re told, all that.

 

But what if it could also be used in the other direction to agitate people? And why wouldn’t it? You’re Garnering all this knowledge about what makes people tick and how to make people do what you want them to do. Well, you can put that to any use, can’t you?

 

And I agree with Morgoth and other people have made the same point over the last few days, that all of this is being orchestrated. The British state, not necessarily the British government as such. The politicians, I think they are largely dumplings. They don’t understand anything. But the British state is infested with civil servants and NGOs and so on, which are run by, I think, far smarter people and they know exactly what they’re doing here!

 

And basically it’s a fictitious patriotic drive where you get everyone worked up. And ultimately it’s about nothing! Because what if well, ultimately it leads to nothing. Because what would Tommy Robinson, his crowd, what kind of Britain do they want? They want the Britain of, well, 2010, 2015, [chuckling] I’m not sure. Maybe 2015, but without the Pakistani grooming gangs. So they just want everyone to integrate together. It’s the nihilism.

 

But that’s the best that this kind of patriotism could lead to, and it would be the dissolution of everything that we are culturally, genetically.

 

So that’s Tommy Robinson’s function, as well as just to distract people from real nationalism and real patriotism, like actual thinking patriotism, which is a huge part of it as well:

 

“This could be a golden opportunity to highlight the catastrophic failures of multiculturalism only for the football crowd to ruin everything and place all the focus on the emerging threat of the far-Right.”

 

Well, exactly!

 

So there are numerous things there. It will highlight the catastrophic failures of multiculturalism. Yes. But in a way that is useful to the establishment, because they can say:

 

“The test of multiculturalism is, do we all support Zionism or not?”

 

Which [chuckling] is fucking mental!

 

[19:17]

 

Anyway, the other aspect is that the football crowd, that’s Tommy Robinson’s crowd, will go in and be, … They will certainly be drunk. They will certainly, some of them be on drugs, and they are certainly looking for a fight! They are certainly looking for violence. So they’ll go in and cause mayhem!

 

And then the result is that the media, the government, the state, can then blame the far-Right and Tommy Robinson. But more importantly, the far-Right, for causing all this violence, which they have ginned up! Including by getting Tommy Robinson reinstated on Twitter.

 

I mean, I just don’t believe that that was spontaneous. I just simply don’t believe that he and Katie Hopkins, any more than I believe it was just a bizarre coincidence that Way of the World and I were banned from YouTube on the very same day! No! No, that doesn’t happen!

 

And similarly, Katie Hopkins and Tom Robinson being reinstated on Twitter on the same day, just a week before this all kicks off. No! It’s obviously orchestrated. They actually really should have staggered it. Like, have one of them reinstated one day and then another one, two weeks later or something, because that would have been more plausible.

 

The [chuckling] point is that they can do something like this right out in the open, obviously, and people won’t even notice! The grugs won’t even think it’s suspicious that Tommy and Katie were brought back onto Twitter on the same day. Won’t even fucking occur to them that that’s odd! Because they’re just thinking about the fight. They’re just thinking about:

 

“Eh, we’re going to stick it to those Arabs!”

 

Cukg.

 

And the thing is, they might. And then, as JR says, there will be a lot of violence then, and then a lot of grugs going to jail, but also the far-Right, that generally what is called the “far-Right”, I really reject that label. I don’t like it! I’m not comfortable with it.

 

But nonetheless, it is what we are called, and all of us will be demonised alongside that.

 

So then we are, I mean, they could even say it’s “terrorism”. The far-Right is the “terrorist threat”, because:

 

“Well, they stabbed some brown people on this protest!”

 

And I don’t even think it will be stabbing. It’ll be bottling, it’ll be fists, that kind of thing. Because Tommy’s crowd and the football crowd, they’re not a black street gang.

 

As far as I know, there hasn’t been anything like knives or guns or anything like that. I’m just trying to think what’s the worst that could possibly happen. It’s not going to be shootings, it would be stabbings. I think that’s as far as it could possibly go in terms of violence.

 

And I’m not saying that. I’m not trying to diminish that it’s obviously fucking awful! But I’m using that as the worst case scenario here, that there are stabbings at this.

 

It doesn’t really matter, though, because whatever happens, the media will use it, will create the impression that they desire about these events. As usual, they can work with almost anything.

 

[23:10]

 

“Also note that despite everything, there haven’t been any attacks that we might have expected as well. As do you mean terror attacks by Muslims serves to only further the idea that Tommy and co are just bullies.”

 

Yes, yes. Well, they can say that after the fact. They can say that:

 

“The Muslims, the pro-Palestine crowd, would disapprove of their point of view, but nonetheless, they were peaceful. But Tommy and his crowd went in there and beat them up, raised hell with these poor brown immigrants!”

 

And by the media, we mean the state, can manipulate and use this any way it likes in contradictory ways. They’ll gin up loathing for the Muslims, for being anti-semitic, anti-Zionist, but then gin up sympathy for the Muslims when they’re beaten up by the Tommy crowd. And they’ll gin up sympathy for the Tommy crowd for being patriotic, but then condemn them when there’s violence at this protest. Condemn them as animals! And even see Tommy going to prison again for what he organised:

 

“He organised violence that he meted out to those poor Muslims on Remembrance Sunday!”

 

And you can see the narratives, the storylines that they would construct for all of this.

 

Anyway, so let’s see. You could get lost in talking about all the different implications of this, the different facets of it. But I think I’ve covered the broad thing there.

 

So I’ll read this question again:

 

“With the news that pro-Palestine demonstrations are set to take place in London on Armistice Day, a patriotic counter-protest planned. How do you see the events playing out? Most of us know It’s a trap, but it feels impossible sometimes to get through to the patriot crowd who care little.”

 

Yes, it is impossible because they tend to be pretty thick! That’s just the fact of the matter:

 

“Who care little for the realities of the situation. And they always reply with, ‘So we do nothing?’, when warned to stay away from London.”

 

The truth is, we should do nothing, because we don’t have power. And so to do anything is to just lay yourself wide open to the predations of the powerful. That’s the truth! Yeah. We should do nothing. I don’t like it. I really don’t like it! I wish we could do something. I wish we could have our way. I wish we could get our ideas across in the public sphere and in the political sphere and transform Britain. I really do wish that!

 

But in this current situation, we have no power at all! And our enemies do have unlimited power!

 

[26:07]

 

So if you put yourself out there, you’re just a mix between puppet and cannon fodder. They will use you, however they like, to condemn all of your beliefs, to condemn your actions on the day, to condemn you as a person. They’ll dig up your past. They’ll paint you in whatever way they like and everything you believe in in whatever way they like! Because that’s what the powerful can do to the powerless, and we are basically the powerless. I’m sorry. It’s a depressing thing to say. But it’s true. And we have to face up to that because acting like we have power or we have the vicarious power of the state, like the state will back us up when we go and protest something, that’s unfortunately just bollocks!

 

The LGBT activist, he has the power of the state backing him up, so to speak, when he goes on a gay protest. [chuckling] But actual patriots and even fake patriots like Tommy don’t! Well, Tommy, this is weird. He does have the backing of the state, insofar as I’m certain they got his Twitter reinstated and I’m certain they are using him. I wouldn’t even be surprised if there is a spoken agreement between him and the state:

 

“Sometimes we’ll send you to prison. Don’t worry, it’ll be cushy, but otherwise we want you to cause trouble.”

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some sort of agreement between Tommy and the state.

 

But the point is, yeah, he is a fake patriot because of what his ideas lead to.

 

And ultimately, I don’t really, … I mean, I think he does care about Britain, but I think he cares more about having an argy-bargy:

 

“I’m getting lots of attention!”

 

Exactly!:

 

“It’s not going to change the demographics of London.”

 

Precisely.

 

Oh, Douglas Murray:

 

“Must admit, the Douglas Murray interview on Trigonometry got my blood pumping more than any intellectual discourse I’ve heard or have read in the last three years following Woes, AA and Morgoth, etc. Everyone on all sides is absolutely obsessed with the jews. Fuck off, man! And remember that to get a job done, you sometimes need to take all the allies you can get, get them all out.”

 

Well, look, if you’re talking about achieving mass deportation of Muslims, that would be terrific. Is that what this is going to lead to? But otherwise, these are not our allies. Douglas Murray is not our ally. Organised international jewry are not our allies.

 

And if you think they are, you’re a fucking fool! Just look at who started mass immigration! Look at who campaigned for Hate Speech laws relentlessly! Look who orchestrated the migrant crisis in 2015 onwards, and tell me that these are our fucking allies! Are you mad? I don’t know what you’re saying. I’m sorry if I’ve misunderstood something, but I just don’t understand.

 

 

Douglas Murray. His job is to prevent the general public from realizing what I’ve just said. And his appearance on Trigonometry, which I haven’t watched, … But those two as well. Trigonometry as well! Their job is to mislead people and prevent them from realizing the stuff I’ve just said.

 

Go and Google Andrew Joyce, Empire Windrush and you’ll find an essay on Occidental Observer that fucking lays it out for you! The stuff that Douglas Murray certainly wouldn’t want anyone to know! And really doesn’t want anyone to know!

 

 

He’s a piece of shit! The last few weeks it’s been disgusting! And his self righteousness, his dramatic way of speaking, his solemnness! This is all faux. It’s all fake! It’s all put on! It’s disgusting! It makes me sick, really!

 

 

[30:47]

 

For 15 years or more he has been a paid traitor to his people, riling them up about the Muslims pointlessly. Maybe there is a point to it. Maybe the British state realises that mass immigration has been a disaster:

 

“The Muslims aren’t integrating. So what we’ve got to do is gradually gin up loathing for them among the indigenous Brits and then that will justify us sending them all back!”

 

Do we believe that?

 

And then that’s the purpose of Douglas Murray and so on and Tommy Robinson, that the British state secretly wants to deport all these Muslims and reverse multiculturalism! Absolute bollocks! Because they continue bringing them in year after year, thousands upon thousands! Hundreds of thousands probably every year. So they would have stopped that years and years ago if they had any intention of mass deportation now. Or is it that the Muslims’reaction to the Gaza conflict has made them suddenly see:

 

“Oh, these Muslims aren’t integrating. We’ll have to deport them all! Quick, release, Tommy!”

 

Bollocks! Something is going on here that they’re not going to implement mass deportations, I don’t think. I mean, how can it just have occurred to them now that they’re not integrating?

 

So, no, I think there would be some token deportations. Red meat for the Tommytards and the Conservatards. But that’s it. The grander narrative here will be that the far-Right is evil. The far-Right is violent and stupid and low brow and so forth. But also that the Palestinians are awful for, … Well, that the Muslims are awful for being anti-semitic.

 

But they’ll also say that the far-Right, that Tommy crowd, is also anti-semitic. While he diligently rejects any form of awareness of the jewish question [JQ] and vehemently discourages it among his supporters, the state and the media will nonetheless call him an anti-semite, even though he’s funded by jews, in league with God knows how many jewish organisations, has jewish colleagues. Nonetheless, the likes of Hope not Hate will call him anti-semitic, and the BBC and so on.

 

Or they’ll say that his politics, his ideas, leads to anti-semitism. So he’ll be condemned for that. All the while the problems continue.

 

And that’s really what’s going on here. I think it’s just a containment mechanism. It’s just a red meat for the various concerned parties. But it won’t actually lead to any big social change, any policy change. Oh, yeah. So he wanted to fight for Israel. Yeah, there’s all that. There’s all that as well.

 

[34:12]

 

I mean, you could go into it. But I’m trying to keep it general! [chuckling] So that I don’t lose the thread. And he made the Shalom film, all that.

 

He actually has the same attitude as the British state, that multiculturalism is fine, it’s wonderful, until jews are harmed by it, then it’s terrible!

 

So we don’t really exist! And I bet you if you said to Tommy Robinson:

 

“What about the British people?”

 

He would probably say:

 

“Well, who do you mean? We don’t really exist. We’re all from Africa!”

 

Because he’ll have heard those slogans. I don’t think he’ll really understand anything. Maybe I’m underestimating the guy, but he just seems to get habitually used by Ezra Levant, jewish organisations, the mainstream media, the British state, especially the British state. Used and abused by them:

 

“Don’t know the details of what Tommy is trying to organise, but anyone who still thinks after Charlottesville on January 6, that IRL [In Real Life] protests are a smart idea is probably not going to make it.”

 

Yes, I agree. That’s exactly the point. These things are orchestrated beforehand, during, and especially afterwards! After the fact.

 

So, yeah, I guess that’s the takeaway. The summary is people should not go to this protest on Armistice Day, Remembrance Day, because it’s a trap. I think they want some amount of violence. As I say, I don’t think it’s going to be a bloodbath, but there will be fisticuffs, that kind of thing.

 

And I think they want it. They want to get a few photographs of some slob or hooligan punching a harmless brown guy. That would be ideal. That would be what they’d love to have at the end of this. But maybe also violence from the brown guys towards the hooligans.

 

And, of course, in the eyes of the middle class, this just looks like a fucking nightmare! It will look:

 

“Okay, so this is what patriotism is. Oh, dear! It’s having a tracksuit on and drinking a bottle of Newcastle Brown ale in public, and then getting into fisticuffs with a Muslim chap!”

 

And [chuckling] that’s not going to be attractive to the middle class! Which, of course, is exactly what they’ve always wanted to make nationalism, patriotism, repugnant to the middle class, to the educated. And Tommy has diligently served them well in that regard. Over and over again!

 

But then so have other elements of actual nationalism. To be fair, they’ve made it very easy for the state and the media to demonise this kind of stuff. But point is that as long as the middle class are on board with generally some diversity, multiculturalism, then nothing’s going to change. What Tommy and his grugs do is. Well, yeah, I’m just saying he is a leader, but he’s a leader of morons! And he’s certainly not going to change the culture or have any idea.

 

In fact, his only ideas for improving the culture and improving Britain would be, as I said earlier, that we all race mix. The guy’s in dumpling! I’m sorry, but he just does not seem to be very bright. He has that sociopathy that I think is very typical of political leaders and yeah, a cynical grifter. Yeah, I agree. Oh, yes:

 

“The brown men like Rishi Sunak will emerge as the voice of reason. Let’s not forget that Tommy’s cash till will be ringing louder than ever!”

 

Yeah, right.

 

[39:02]

 

So, yeah, what Tommy said on Twitter was:

 

“Saturday, eleven, eleven, eleven, London. Your country needs you!”

 

Echoing the famous poster with Lord Kitchener.

 

So that’s four days from now. So we’ll see what happened.

 

Unity News, they’re saying anyone who has still a functioning brain and cares about this country should stay well away from this obvious Fed op. Yes, I agree.

 

Nick Clews says:

 

“I don’t think it will be anything.”

 

Well, maybe nothing will come. Maybe it will just be a big sort of tension raising exercise in the media and then not much will actually happen.

 

But the point will have been established, nonetheless. Even though nothing happened. The point, it will have been inserted into people’s minds that the far-Right is a threat, which is really the goal with all of this, is to insert into the public’s mind certain ideas.

 

Oh, no, I didn’t see this interview with Hitchens and Alex O’Connor. Is that the one where he walked out of it after and he, … It took 17 minutes to, … Hold on a minute. Yes. Yes, I did! Yes, I did see this! I watched the whole thing. It’s a 17 minutes “walkout”, where he takes that long arguing with the guy. He’s standing up, he’s putting on his bicycling outfits and all that, and he’s still arguing with him for 17 minutes! And honestly, I’ve had three relatives who had dementia, and it manifests early on in different ways in each person. It’s different.

 

But one of the ways is a sort of frustration that they’re not keeping up with things, early on, in the progress of the disease. They realise that they’re not quite on the ball and they feel that other people are tricking them, moving too far ahead, confusing them.

 

And honestly, I’m a bit concerned. I am because for all his flaws, I like Peter Hitchens. And that was a strange thing, that 17 minutes walk out. I mean, it’s funny to watch. But during it I did start to think, was he just in a bad mood on this particular day? Or is there something more going on here?

 

Anyway, oh, I should have, … Right, okay, so Halloween happened and I was meant to do a stream with Lichtmesz with Martin Lichtmesz, about ghosts for Halloween, but unfortunately that didn’t happen. There was a technical screw up at his end that meant that we couldn’t do it.

 

And he also had to miss the Decameron the next day as well, which was very unfortunate. So we’ll see about rescheduling. It’s a shame. I really was looking forward to it, but unfortunately that couldn’t happen.

[42:35]

 

Also, Guy Fawkes Night happened. And on both of these occasions I scheduled loads of pictures throughout each of the Halloween and Guy Fawkes Day. Because I like both festivals, if you can call them a festival. I’m not sure what the word would be. But especially Guy Fawkes Night. I prefer that to Halloween just because it’s more dark and serious and rooted in British history. And I’ve got fond memories of the sights and sounds and smells of bonfire night. So it’s closer to me. And I was kind of disappointed that we couldn’t. Didn’t do a stream about it to commemorate it. But I thought:

 

“Well, there’s not actually that much to be said about. You’d say the same thing every year!”

 

Yeah, [chuckling] but it’s just a shame. It’d be nice to commemorate it in some way, to take part in it in some way.

 

And so my way was to post photos, mostly from yester, well, all from yesteryear, Guy Fawkes Night being celebrated by people, especially kids, throughout the decades. That was lovely. I liked that. So I hope people enjoyed those photos.

 

Halloween, I probably enjoyed it more when I was a child. I do like Halloween, … And this is the biggest cliche. So I’m sorry to say it, I don’t like how commercial it’s become. I don’t like that it all feels fake and plasticky. I think it should be local. I think you should keep it local. I think that things should be made by your mum or your friend’s mum, and by the wee shop, they should sell things. But I don’t like that. It feels very shallow.

 

And I can see Bonfire Night going the same way. Eventually the kids won’t make a Guy. I don’t even know if they still do that nowadays?

 

But I can imagine Amazon selling a Guy that you can burn. So that you don’t need to make your own, because it’s inconvenient! [chuckling] And I really hope that doesn’t happen.

 

But anyway, yeah, I liked Halloween as a child. Small, but as you get older, for the reasons I’ve just given, it starts to seem a bit shallow and American, sort of meaningless, which I don’t like saying because it does have roots. All Hallows Eve. It does have roots in European culture, but it’s all a bit shallow nowadays.

 

And I think that it’s salvageable, though. I mean, it’s perfectly salvageable. It just, you know, we should not. Well, we should have a better culture than we do, basically. Yeah. I mean, kids will always love Halloween, of course. Yeah. Probably the most internationally recognised day. It really is world-wide. And, yes, it’s very shallow. Yeah. It just feels like, as I say, plasticky. Silly.

 

I made the point last year about turnips, that it used to be turnips that we used in Britain, whereas it’s become pumpkins. And that’s just one sort of manifestation of this, where everything becomes Americanised over time. I don’t like it. Don’t like it at all!

 

[46:18]

 

And the Guardian and the BBC, there’s an article in MSN.com called “How the Guardian and BBC got swept up in a wave of anti-semitism”. And, I mean, this is amazing! So no matter how this is, you know, just to be fair and even handed about the conflict is in certain eyes to be “anti-semitic”.

 

And of course, to be anti-Zionist is to be anti-semitic in certain eyes. And no matter how craven your support for jews and the jewish people is, if you don’t support them carpet bombing Gaza and killing huge numbers of small children, then you’re an anti-semite! This is insane!

 

And that’s the thing. Look how craven, how absolutely committed to diversity and multiculturalism the Guardian and the BBC are! But if they say something critical of Israel’s conduct in this conflict, then they’re anti-semitic. So fucking tiresome! Oh, yes. So and this is an example of them ginning this up for Tommy and his crowd:

 

“Home Secretary Suella Braverman, who is not White and is married to a jew. Suella Braverman refers to the anti-war, pro-peace., …”

 

So this is the Palestine side:

 

“Refers to the anti-war, pro-peace protests as hate marches!”

 

Anti-war, pro-peace equals hate marches because it’s anti-semitic! So, in an article in Jewish Chronicle [chuckling] from March this year, long before this conflict started, Braverman wrote:

 

“My husband is a proud Zionist. We have close family members who serve in the IDF.”

 

[chuckling] There we go! She’s not compromised at all!

 

Oh, this is the thing I was trying to remember earlier. This is a letter from the Ministry of Foreign affairs in Saudi Arabia:

 

“The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia condemns, in the strongest terms possible, the extremist remarks by an Israeli occupation government minister regarding dropping a nuclear bomb on the besieged Gaza Strip, which show the pervasiveness of extremism and brutality among members of the Israeli government. Moreover, not dismissing the minister from the government immediately and only freezing his membership constitutes the utmost disregard for all human and religious moral values and legal norms by the Israeli government.”

 

There we go. That was another minor event that happened this week.

 

Oh, okay. One thing was Audrey Hale, the transsexual gunman who opened fire in a Christian school in Nashville last year. The manifesto has been leaked. And one page in the manifesto says:

 

“Kill those kids, those crackers! Going to private fancy schools with those fancy khakis and sports backpacks with their daddy’s Mustangs and convertibles. Fuck you little shits! I wish to shoot your weak arse dicks with your mop yellow hair! Want to kill all you little crackers. Bunch of little faggots with your White privileges. Fuck you, faggots!”

 

It’s interesting to hear a transgender using the word “faggots” I guess that’s like black people using a certain word [nigger]. They’re allowed to do it.

 

[50:35]

 

So this is the manifesto that the FBI would not release last year, when the shooting happened, they kept it under wraps. And you can see why. It was anti-White. It was expressly anti-White, the killing. Let me see this. Audrey Hale. And it’s weird, because as far as I can see, that is a White person, a White boy. I can’t even tell whether it was, … The jawline looks male, but it looks like, … No, I think it was originally a girl. And, yeah, that does look like her.

 

Anyway, the point is, Audrey Hale was White herself, but she seems to have been, well, pumped full of not only hormones, but also anti-White sentiment, anti-White beliefs. And that has formed part of her killing crusade. If what I’m saying is accurate, then that means that this is what they say about nationalism, that it leads to killing. To moan about Muslims or multiculturalism leads to murder!

 

Well, then this seems to be that exact thing, where you’re going on and on about how awful White people are, and then that leads to them being killed. Especially by black people, but even by this transgender. [chuckling] it’s all quite weird!

 

So, yeah, you can see why they wouldn’t release this manifesto at the time.

 

Whereas if it’s a racist White guy and he’s got a manifesto, they always release that it’s just so fucking annoying!

 

And a poppy seller in Edinburgh, Waverly station train station. He’s 78 years old and he was punched by pro-Palestine protesters, apparently. That was one thing that happened here. There are tensions, there are real tensions.

 

And I think on all sides, the tensions are being stoked by the mainstream media, by the British state, deliberately, knowingly. Because whatever the fallout is, they can control it. Or so they think.

 

Anyway, let’s, because I’ll get on to that later.

 

Another thing that happened was the AfD has been declared an extremist, Right-wing extremist organisation by the Federal Office for the Protection of the German Constitution. I’m guessing that’s the equivalent of our Home Office. But it’s the Saxony Anhalt office. It’s one division, as far as I know, not the general country. And in Saxony Anhalt, the AfD scored higher than the Christian Democrat Party, the CDU, for the first time, and that was just a few days ago.

 

And then this guy declares them Right-wing extremist organisation. This is how they do it. They are clearly very worried about the AfD. And you can moan about the AfD, a bunch of cucks or whatever, but it’s based enough for the establishment to be clearly very concerned about. Unless that too is a fiction that they’re manufacturing. But I just don’t get the feeling that is the case there in Germany.

 

Okay. Ross asks a question:

 

“In order to survive in a world of superpowers, do you think Europe might have to unite into a European superstate? It seems to me that nationalism in the traditional sense is dead and Imperium Europa is the way forward.”

 

[54:41]

 

Well, I’m with Mosley on this matter. He also believes in a European federation, but he clearly was devoted to Britain. I mean, you can do both. It’s not a contradiction. I mean, you could say it’s serving two masters, but not really, because Britain is part of Europe, so it makes sense. I mean, I don’t think that we should be opposed to France and Germany and Belgium and Sweden. I think that they are our allies, they’re our colleagues, our brothers. So we should put our interests first, but we should also put their interests second, and we should collaborate with them and help each other out.

 

I mean, there will always be brotherly sibling rivalry, but that’s just something for adults to deal with which they should fucking well be able to. It certainly doesn’t mean that we should be sabotaging each other or going to war with each other. And especially because we now know the full scope of the human species and just how different most of them are from us Europeans.

 

Regardless of the minor differences between us, the contrast between us and outside of Europe is much starker than any contrast within Europe. And that should be very clear to everyone at this point. If you can’t see the point of European identity and the salience of it at this point, then you’re just a retard!

 

So I do think that European identity clearly matters. There is such a thing as being European. There absolutely is! It’s part of being a civilisation. But that does not contradict love for one’s country, one’s own homeland, any more than love for one’s town precludes love for one’s country. Of course it doesn’t. My town is my favourite place and so on.

 

But that doesn’t mean, therefore I’m opposed to the rest of the country. Fucking, that’s ridiculous! No one would ever say that. I don’t think anyone has ever said that! [chuckling]

 

And yet we have this idea that to be pro-Britain is necessarily to be anti-Europe or opposed to other European countries. I just don’t see it. I don’t see it. I understand the logic of the thinking, but I just don’t think it’s actually true in the real world unless we make it true! Unless we decide to behave in that way. So we’ll moan about the French and the Germans and all this, like certain civic nationalists do, or the Spitfire Bulldog nationalists who are just a bunch of morons.

 

And as I say, historically, the time for that kind of small minded, petty nationalism is just absolutely over! It was over in 1945. It was over in 1918. We just should not be behaving like that towards each other or talking of each other like that.

 

[57:57]

 

I mean, I’ll make jokes about the French now and then, but it is a joke in the end. I absolutely want the best for the French. I don’t want the French to be Muslimified or blackified. Absolutely not!

 

People use the term “petty nationalism” in different ways. The way that I’m using it. What I mean by it here is that small minded nationalism, where you got this idea that you only care about your own country and are suspicious of other European countries. I think that’s silly!

 

The other way in which people use the term petty nationalism is, well, to simply care about your country. There are people who think that we should all be sort of cosmopolitan to some degree. And I disagree with that. I think it’s very natural and healthy to have attachment to your homeland, to what you have known, to the culture and people and history of your nation. I think that’s absolutely right! So to call that petty, I think, is ridiculous!

 

So anyway, that’s what I think about that.

 

And as for federation, yes, there should be some sort of federation, but it should be run by people. Well, it should be run by good people and formulated by good people, not managerialist husks, and certainly not nutters, [chuckling] technocrats and so on.

 

First and foremost there should be a love of, well, what we are. And if that were the guiding principle, if that were the heart of everything, then the EU would actually be a good thing. It would be a force for good.

 

So I don’t think that the EU entirely negates or discredits the idea of European Federation. I think it’s European Federation done in the worst possible way and with a retarded mentality. But that doesn’t mean that European Federation is always foolhardy by definition. I just don’t think that’s true at all. And I agree with what you’re saying in a world of superpowers, and that is the reality. Geopolitics is you can’t just put your head in the sand and just ignore what’s going on in the rest of the world. If you do that, the rest of the world will just rape you. That’s what the powerful do to the weak, unfortunately, in politics.

 

So, yeah, superpowers matter. Power matters. Geopolitics matters. And nationalism has to take place within that arena. You have to acknowledge the realities around it.

 

I mean, how else are you going to protect your country if you don’t acknowledge the realities of the power structures that you’re operating within?

 

So there we go.

 

And then Black Pigeon Pilled asked the question:

 

“Have we reached peak jewish power?”

 

Which is a very interesting matter.

 

And this is what I was saying, what I alluded to earlier, that the establishment think they can control the story after the fact, because they’ve got that power. Because historically, for a long time they’ve had that power, and now they’ve got the Nudge Unit to do it in a more slick know, inculcate ideas into the public and so on.

 

[1:01:47]

 

But there is a sense, and Counter-Currents did a podcast a few days ago with Morgoth and Pox Populi and Endeavour, which was a very interesting debate, and I shared it on Telegram, about this matter. Has jewish power peaked now?

 

I remember Richard Spencer once saying about 2018, sometime like that. He said that jewish power actually peaked in the mid 90s. Clinton, that sort of era. And the Iraq war and Afghanistan war actually helped to reduce it. And it’s been reducing ever since. It’s been diminishing ever since. Which would make sense because demographically it’s actually not looking good for the Ashkenazi in America. Their kids keep marrying out and not having enough children of their own. And in the establishment, especially the universities, there’s a lot of brown people now who don’t want to promote or enrol jews! [chuckling] Because they are anti-semitic, I mean, they actually are consciously anti-semitic.

 

So of course, those brown people have been aided in arriving in America, in the West by jewish organisations much of the time.

 

But nonetheless, once here in the West, they’re quite anti-jew. They’re quite anti-semitic because they don’t know who brought them here, who paved the way for them. So it doesn’t matter.

 

So the point is, to some extent, jews in America are being devoured by the things that they have helped create. And actually, well, I wrote a summary of this for someone else, but I don’t think I need to, … Things like Critical Theory and White Privilege because they get rolled into that, they get associated with being White by brown people at least.

 

And then imperialism, supremacy, all this kind of stuff, historical structures of systemic violence and oppression, all of that. They’ve been inculcating that in the curriculum all over the West. And now Israel is invading Gaza. And mean, it seems almost like a genocide. And certainly there are jews speaking genocidally about the Palestinians. So that looks a lot like supremacy and imperialism and racism and the powerful abusing the weak.

 

And there’s really not much that you can say in response to that except:

 

“Well, it’s the jews! So they’re an exception! So they can get away with doing stuff like this. It’s fine for them to do this!”

 

But that’s a ridiculous thing to say. Even with the Holocaust as a justifier!

 

“Well, yes, it might be supremacy and it might be racism and it might be mass murder and it might be an invasion, but it’s okay for the jews to do this because of the Holocaust, 80 years ago!”

 

That doesn’t really, I don’t think that convinces many people because they just think:

 

“Well, yeah, but two wrongs don’t make a right.”

 

[1:05:21]

 

I mean, just because you’ve been abused doesn’t mean that you should abuse other people. So even for people who fully believe the Holocaust narrative, it still doesn’t serve as sufficient justification for Israel to do what it’s doing. [chuckling] So there’s that.

 

And then generally about jewish influence, there is also that the mainstream media is falling apart slowly, and it’s happening much more slowly than we initially thought it would. But it is happening!

 

And the question is whether it can successfully transition to online., … I don’t know. But just now, the situation just now, it looks like once the Boomers die out, television is gone. The old media, I think it’s surviving because of the boomers still, because they’ve always got TV on in their living room all the fucking time! And it’s blaring the BBC or whatever. Once they’re gone, there won’t be a TV on in living rooms up and down the country, blaring the BBC. That will no longer be the case.

 

So that means that the mainstream media, as a persuasive propaganda tool, is losing it’s purchase on the population. And so if you’re using that tool to condition the population and enact your power, well, then you’re losing power! Because the tool just isn’t working anymore! [chuckling]

 

And I think that’s going to be ever more the case. As I say, unless they can successfully transition to online stuff. But I don’t know if they can! I don’t know. Maybe they can. Maybe for normies, the BBC YouTube channel will be what they look at on YouTube and they won’t go to any other website, perhaps.

 

So, yeah, the answer to the question, I think it is, and I think that jewish power is declining. And we talk about “jewish power”, that in itself is an anti-semitic concept. I believe it’s regarded as “anti-semitic”, which is kind of ridiculous because every group has power. So of course the jews are going to have power. There is going to be a thing called jewish power, just like there is a thing, British power and US power, and so forth.

 

But nonetheless, the very concept that jews collectively would have power and the desire to use it is often regarded as an anti-semitic trope. [chuckling] It’s just absurd! And why would any group not want to have power and to use it, and to have uses to put it to? Of course it will!

 

But, yeah, I think that it is declining.

 

And then another part of it is just the Holocaust, as I said last week, I think the Holocaust is just, I mean, there was already jewish power in America and Britain long before the Holocaust. But the Holocaust was something that really inaugurated and justified it. And the Holocaust is now a long time ago, and it just doesn’t mean to younger generations what it meant to the boomers and the silent generation.

 

[1:08:53]

 

So that’s that. And I don’t think there’s anything you can do to combat that you can have endless Holocaust stuff in the media and in education, but it still seems like something that happened a long time ago. And within a context that we can’t even recognise now, the context of national pride. To your average teenager today, it’s unrelatable! It’s unrelatable for the millennials in their thirties and forties. It’s just that we’ve never lived in a context where our countries were oriented towards our people.

 

So it’s a very difficult thing to get worked up about the possibility of something like the Third Reich happening, or something like the Holocaust happening in Britain today. No one thinks that! No one thinks it’s not going to be that.

 

If you’re going to put people in concentration camps, [chuckling] ironically, it’s going to be World Health Organisation bollocks! It’s going to be the UN, it’s going to be the World Economic Forum decreeing that this must be done for the good of the public. It’s not going to be the national government saying:

 

“We don’t like this minority, so we’re going to put them in camps!”

 

That is just completely unrelatable. I think.

 

So, yeah the Holocaust has lost it’s purchase, and that will only continue, especially as Western populations become more diverse, which really, these jewish NGOs are killing the goose that lays the golden egg there. But that seems to be something that they do.

 

And what we care about is what we care about what’s good for us. And that’s not the Holocaust, and it’s not the mass immigration either. It’s us! It’s our countries. The fact that our governments aren’t oriented towards our people, that is the problem!

 

In short, I think that the answer to the question is, yes.

 

But in the meantime, for now, jewish power very much remains a very real thing. And there will also be other reasons as well, within the jewish people that they’ll start believing their own propaganda. Their ethnocentrism, which is very strong, will nonetheless be negated by their beliefs. If they really do believe that race is a little rubbish and it’s just an illusion, and that we should be open minded and that we should learn from other types of people, then there’s no point getting into that marriage that your parents are trying to push you into with that rich but dull banker from the Rubenstein family. You’re interested in that exotic student you’ve met on your business studies degree at whatever university you’re at. So this, I think, is the situation for many young jewish people today.

 

And so again, the ethnocentrism that they’ve had in the past, I think, is being corroded by their own stated beliefs that they state for the Gentiles, but nonetheless, it weaken their own standing. It does weaken their own identity, which in turn weakens their political power as a group.

 

Now, as I say, it’s a slow process, and I’m not going to say it’s going to necessarily nullify jewish power throughout the West.

 

[1:12:55]

 

But I do think you’re not looking at the situation of 1995 anymore. I tend to agree with Richard Spencer on this. I think that it probably peaked in the mid nineties. And ever since then it has remained a thing. And even today, even now, it’s still very powerful! I think that they told Rishi Sunak:

 

“Get Tommy Robinson back on Twitter.”

 

He had a meeting with Musk and it happened. That’s what I basically think happened here.

 

So I don’t mean to say it’s over, that jewish power is just not a thing. It will always be a thing. As long as they exist. Of course they will have some amount of powers by definition. And I think they will remain an especially powerful group, probably forever or foreseeable future.

 

But I don’t think they’re going to have, I mean, well, to put it a different way, jewish power is not going to be the monolithic thing that it was in the past and without that transformation, et cetera, et cetera. [paraphrasing Babara Lerner Spectre]

 

Yeah, China replaces them. That’s the whole other thing. Yeah, China! It’s a whole other aspect of this. And Russia is a different thing as well. It’s obviously different from the West, but it’s also got these weird tendencies that you wouldn’t expect.

 

The point is that Russia is its own thing and it’s quite bizarre and in some ways it is beholden to some of the same ridiculous ideas that have done such damage in the West.

 

But yeah, China is clearly a rising power. And that also is going to weaken jewish influence in the world.

 

Oh, the Holocaust memorial in Victoria Tower Gardens. Yeah, that’s a whole thing. As I say, I do believe that their power is waning.

 

So actually, I think that’s probably why they kvetch so much to have these memorials, to try to bolster their declining power. And that’s regardless of what happens with Gaza, just now with this conflict, I think this is still the case.

 

As I said before, I think this is the last time that they could do something like this. But the long term consequences are still bad for the Israelis either way. Maybe they should move to somewhere else in the world. I don’t know. I’m not saying that is true. I’m just saying maybe something for them to look into. Because clearly it’s an endlessly precarious, nasty, situation in Israel for everyone. But that’s their problem. And it shouldn’t be ours, and it shouldn’t have anything to do with us. We shouldn’t need to know about it.

 

And part of the perversity of the age we live in is that it is our problem! And that we are talking about it! And that we are spending an hour and a half talking about the various ramifications of this march. What’s it got to do with any of our culture, any of our heritage or history?

 

You’ve got a bunch of brown people, the pro-Palestine crowd, and then you’ve got a bunch of faux patriots, largely organised by jews on the other side, fighting it out so as to be condemned by a media that is certainly compromised in multiple directions, and a British state that is completely corrupt.

 

So it’s a very shitty situation!

 

[1:16:46]

 

And I’m not going to black pill people. I’m just outlining the variety and degree of bullshit that’s going on here, and just how disconnected and it is from us and our interests.

 

So I would say, just to emphasise, in case anyone hasn’t gleaned this already, I expressly discourage anyone from attending this counter-protest with Tommy Robinson in London on Remembrance Day. I think it’s just an absolute trap! 100%! And nothing good can come of it.

 

All right, well, I guess that’s everything. I should have taken time to organise the notes better beforehand. That is a lesson. This has been an unnecessarily arduous talk because I didn’t organise the notes beforehand. For anyone doing similar things learn from my mistake. [chuckling] One with Thumbs. That’s a good one!

 

At this point, yes, I think the Western civilisation is a chimera. This is a system of systems, but it’s not a spiritual conquest. It’s become a bureaucratic fucking nightmare! Did I finish my fight with Sargon? The Sargon thing? [chuckling] challenged him to., … Oh, this is the whole thing with Gad Saad. Sargon I can’t see his Twitter, right? Because I’m blocked.

 

So I’m not really aware of what he’s., … Yeah, so Gad Saad has been kvetching on Twitter for the last few weeks, and Sargon seems to have decided that Gad Saad is an ally, a friend of the West, against Muslims against Islam. And yes, sure, he’s not as bad as some of them, of course he isn’t.

 

But the message is still the same. He’s not pro-White Identity or heritage or whatever what I would call Western civilisation. He’s a consumer looking for a safe place to consume, like many (((wanderers))) and many non-Whites. And what he wants is the West to be fit for that purpose. So he’s not an ally in any real sense.

 

And for Sargon to think that he is, I’m sorry, it’s typical of Sargon. I mean, he’s, sorry, he’s not the sharpest tool in the box! And he doesn’t have much excuse at this point. He has many people that he could be learning from. If he can’t fucking work it out himself, which he clearly can, he has many people he could be just [chuckling] asking:

 

“Can you just explain this to me or just tell me what is the situation here?”

 

But he never does.

 

He arduously argues against you for years, and then eventually quietly realises that you were right all along. And he adopts your talking points, but acts as if he came up with them himself. And you are still an idiot! That’s what he does. Because he doesn’t have much, well, any integrity. I’m sorry, but that’s basically the situation. He’s a man without much intelligence and without much integrity.

 

[1:20:35]

 

And I’m sorry to say that because it sounds bitchy, and it is bitchy. But it’s the truth and it’s relevant. I wouldn’t say it just for the sake of it. I’m saying it because it’s relevant. And it matters, too, because he’s holding people back with this nonsense! And it’s what he’s always been doing. I mean, right back to 2015 when he said that:

 

“The alt-Right, the SJWs, Right-wing SJWs!”

 

Just a moron. It’s a fucking stupid thing to say!

 

And this is what he specialises in, these thought terminating cliches, these stupid gotchas! Horseshoe theory and so on, that prevent thought. [chuckling] That’s what he does.

 

So, no, he certainly won’t be on Millenniyule 23. I actually don’t think I would have him on Millenniyule. I would do a stream with him, but I wouldn’t want it to be part of Millenniyule, because it just feels like that would be sullying Millenniyule at this point. And I know that sounds like sour grapes and I’m lying, but honestly, I wouldn’t want to have them on Millenniyule! Because I want Millenniyule to be not combative. I want it to be good spirited and so on.

 

And with Sargon, I would want to be combative. So the Millenniyule wouldn’t be the venue for that.

 

Yeah, exactly! It should be cozy. And I also, frankly, more egotistically, I think that he would need to earn the right to appear on Millenniyule because he’s snubbed me for years now.

 

So, no, I’m not just going to take him back like that! No, he’d have to do some work.

 

Yes, he has been combative on Millenniyule. If you watch the 2017 one, for example, or the 2016 one, and definitely the 2015 one, when he appeared on it uninvited – but nobody was invited as such. It was an open hangout so anyone could join. And he joined. And he was certainly just, … He spent four or 5 hours misunderstanding and pretending to misunderstand, which is a combination. He does both of those.

 

On the one hand, he’s not bright enough to understand what you’re saying, but he is bright enough to pretend to misunderstand those bits that he does understand. [chuckling] Fucking hell!

 

So, yeah, just not the best.

 

I mean, the only reason we have to talk about this guy at all is that he is big, he’s powerful, he’s influential, and that’s an aspect of the perversity of the age we live in. A guy like him should not have influence. He should not be prominent. Unfortunately, because of the abundance of midwits in the world, there are many, many people who will follow a guy like him. There we are.

 

“I like the gay little thing about us adopting SJW language.”

 

I mean, what the fuck? He’s obviously trying to get us to look like morons. Oh, yes, that was some weird thing.

 

And that was another one where it took ages to explain the idea, as if he was talking to a fucking five year old. So you’d have to go very slowly so that I’ll understand. But all it actually had the opposite effect where I was thinking:

 

“Sargon, will you get the fucking point? What the fuck are you trying to say here? Taking ages!”

 

And eventually he did lay it out very simply, and I thought:

 

“Okay, well, that’s just a stupid idea!”

 

Once you can see it clearly, it’s just fucking stupid!

 

So, yeah, I agree.

 

Anyway:

 

“Is Woes really discussing Sargon?”

 

I’m afraid so. And you’re right, I shouldn’t be:

 

“You should have really bludgeoned him for that one!”

 

[chuckling] Well, I’ll be honest, if he did agree to our stream now, I would bludgeon him!

 

And I think he knows that. I think he knows that I wouldn’t be treating him with kid gloves now. So he’s not going to do it. But he wouldn’t do it anyway because he doesn’t want to be shown up. And he also doesn’t want to be associated with me, or any of us.

 

So, yeah, the days of him doing impromptu debates and discussions that is long over, he’s not going to do that. He’s playing it very safe. And I understand that for no one wants to lose their income and whatever. But then fucking check out of the discourse. Don’t keep polluting it with your low brow, low-T nonsense, obviously. But he does, and it’s exasperating!:

 

“I should gate crash an online event of his.”

 

Well, [chuckling] I’m pretty sure his mods would have me banned in short order, but I don’t think he even does events that you can gate crash, does he? I’m not sure. All right. Okay. That’s all.

 

I’m not going to go on about that guy anymore. It is bad when I’m talking about him. Because I know he won’t be talking about me, so I shouldn’t be talking about him:

 

“He was a valuable gateway.”

 

Yes, he was, for sure.

 

I mean, I certainly got lots of new followers from that four hour debate that I did with them for years afterward, so it was certainly good for me. Far better than it was for him. [chuckling] But he’s not going to make that mistake again.

 

“Neil deGrasse Tyson loses his mind.”

 

Oh, God. [chuckling] I mean, he is thick as fuck! He’s just a dumpling. And it’s embarrassing! It’s embarrassing because he’s like the Thomas Sowell of science. People think of him as very., … Oh, and Thomas Sowell! I saw a clip of him. Oh, fuck! Someone asked him:

 

“Where does anti-semitism come from?”

 

And he came out with the old canard that:

 

“It’s about jealousy of jewish success, because it’s always easier to hate someone else than to hate yourself for underachieving!”

 

Well, thanks for that, Thomas! I don’t rate Thomas well, I’m sorry.

 

I mean, yeah, he comes out with some good middle of the road observations that have been said by other people already, but in and of himself, no. If that’s the best that they can do, and let’s face it, it is the best they can do! Then I’m not impressed.

 

[1:27:30]

 

As for Neil deGrasse Tyson, he’s the definition of a diversity hire. He’s only got his career at all because he is black. But he’s certainly not bright. Holy shit! And that clip of him talking about the vaccine, I mean, that really should condemn him forever. Dreadful!

 

Holy shit!

 

“King Charles has confirmed that Rishi Sunak will introduce a permanent smoking ban in Britain for everyone born in 2009 or after.”

 

So nobody born after January 2009 will ever legally be able to buy cigarettes. Holy fuck! So anyone under 14 now, or 14 or under. Will never be able to buy cigarettes. That’s something else. Yeah. I’m against this. I don’t approve of this.

 

I mean, I don’t approve of smoking, really. I know it’s bad for you and it be discouraged, but I don’t agree with banning it. And I still enjoy being in the presence of people smoking, even though I’ve not., … A cigarette has not touched my lips for three and a half years! And I’ve never been close to doing it, to smoking. You just make a decision and that’s it. You’re no longer a smoker, so why would you smoke? It’s easy!

 

But then I did have a sort of maybe divine intervention there to help me with it.

 

But anyway, if I can do it, anyone else could do it!

 

But then again, what about the other things that I’m addicted to, like Coca Cola? Whole other issue.

 

So the point is, I don’t agree with banning it, but at the same time, I’m not surprised that they’re doing this because it has been going this way for a long time in this direction.

 

So there we go.

 

And yes, PGM says:

 

“Meanwhile, we have weed at the liquor store.”

 

Well, that’s in Canada. Yeah. I do suspect that cannabis is just going to be decriminalised everywhere in time because ultimately it serves their ends, it serves their purposes. People are just stoned and listless, which they already largely are.

 

All right, I think that’s it.

 

All right, well, this has been a good one, I think. A bit disjointed, but nonetheless, I think it went fairly well. Yeah So thank you. Thank you for the comments. Thank you for the Superchats. I will see you again next week, hopefully on the correct night of the week.

 

And in the meantime, bye bye for now.

 

[1:30:37]

 

 

END

top

 

 

 

============================================

 

Odysee Comments

top

(Comments as of 11/11/2023 = 50)

HyperChat min: 1
Peak Aussieman
2 days ago
Don’t get swept up in the Counter-Jihad Movement. no good will come of it. It’s all a giant honey pot.

19
2
Hide replies

@Aeneid88
2 days ago
100% its been done before, a lot of people have seen it first hand and won’t fall for it again but the younger guys or the newly red pilled probably will.

6
1
Hide replies

@Goodkunt
2 days ago(edited)
Useful idiots on both sides are only useful to the Jew.

2
1
Hjorth
2 days ago
Sargon will cower. He has his safe space in The Lotus Eaters.

11
0
Hide replies

@MoneyChangersOut
1 day ago
Sargoy of Akukked

2
0
Hide replies

@OscarMeyer
1 day ago
Sargoy of Mossad

3
0
Darby
2 days ago
Sargon vs Woes? Tommy vs the muslims? wake up bro 2016 is back lol

10
0
Hide replies

@M3t4phYzX
2 days ago
I wish..

3
0

@boc_choy
2 days ago
Woes, they mentioned you on Lotus Eaters the other day. It wasn’t anything about you – rather they were showing a video of a street scene and I think Callum comment that someone in the video looked like you and asked ‘is that Woes?’ They all commented and laughed good heartedly except Sargon who said nothing.

9
0
Hide replies
Millennial Woes
2 days ago
LOL

7
1

@filled_soda
2 days ago
I am now convinced that Sargon’s ego is of truly biblical proportions.

9
0
Hide replies

@Chabbor
2 days ago
No doubt he’d smugly chuckle at this.

7
0

@Justsomeguy115
2 days ago
MUST CONSUUUME… ERRR INDIVIDUALISM

2
0
purebloodheretic
2 days ago
Sargon has been a smug eurocunt since way back

2
0
Show reply
Just a guy trying to honor my ancestors, and understand the world.
2 days ago(edited)
I don’t believe that. I genuinely don’t think Sargon is smug. I think he’s nihilistic, calculated and comfortable. In the end, I don’t believe Carl is particularly political. He’s a guy who has carved out a very easy, comfortable life by convincing retards that he’s taking risks, is brave, etc. and he doesn’t have to work a real job or worry about money like most of us do. Being a fake-edgy centrist is a path to an easy life if you can string a few sentences together slightly better than most.

5
0
en
2 days ago
Sargon’s praised & promoted every single controlled opposition figure going, & carries on doing so to this day, years after everyone else has spotted what was going on.
I’m talking about the likes of Farage, Tommy Robinson, Douglas Murray, Jordan Peterson etc..
He honestly hasn’t got 2 brain cells to rub together.

8
0
Hide replies

@OscarMeyer
1 day ago
Old Dick Spencer had this clown, Sargoy, figured out years ago.

1
0
BobMatthews
2 days ago
1:06:08
if it’s not the bbc then its fox news in America for so many White boomer parents that are “conservative”. And yes they will mindlessly have tv blaring away in their dens puking out nonsense or watching something like gold rush which is likely alltogether a fake show that is obviously making more money from boomer viewership than any gold they are mining if they are even mining it at all…

5
0
Hide replies

@Goodkunt
2 days ago
You just summed up dinner at my Parents house. Boomers are a lost cause.

3
0
Hide replies
BobMatthews
1 day ago
it’s got to number in 5-8 hours per day that they watch crap like oak island (arguably one of the most vacant, nonsensical pieces of crap I have ever seen). And fox news has constant commercials of nothing but non-Whites in them and $upport jews, israel, and anti-semitism is on the rise types. You try to show boomers alternative sources of media and news and explain to them how all these guys speaking facts and showing evidence of black violence and jewish influence around 2019 whom were censored and cancelled which is vindication if any as to the degree of truth they speak, you explain these things to boomers and literally it’s more productive talking to a vrick wall.

2
0
Oswald Jr.
2 days ago
Woes, did you see the Edinburgh Evening New report on the riot in Niddrie on Bonfire Night? They used an image from a riot in Kiev back in 2014 for the front page story. 😆

5
1
Runt’s Meadow
1 day ago(edited)
6:50
The 11th November is not ‘remembrance day’, it is Armistice Day, and specifically commemorates the end of fighting on the western front in WW1, which was seen in Britain as the effective end of the war. This year, Remembrance Sunday will be the next day.

3
0
ChuckGerety
13 hours ago
I say we step aside and let leftist steer the ship. Watch them crash and burn. We will see how well it works out for them in 15-20 years but our hands will be clean. We will then begin to rebuild in a healthier society afterwards.

1
1

@Goodkunt
2 days ago
“Oh ToMmY tOmMy ToMmY….”

2
0
Loup-Garou
2 days ago
Whites are the easiest group to scapegoat so if the system feels it will have a problem with Muslims they’ll just insert a “bigger white problem.”

2
0

@long_walk
1 day ago
Sargon (future conservative leader) is levelling up in Warhammer before he take you on.

1
0

@MoneyChangersOut
1 day ago
I wonder if Tommy Bell end Robinson will get Israeli citizenship for all his lackeying for the Jews.

1
0

@Aeneid88
1 day ago
When it comes to PJW and Sargon both they are very sus, their funding was always opaque. Sargon also is self claimed black ancestry and married a woman who already had a kid so you know, his quality and character are not aligned with us. His beliefs are not aligned, his world view is liberal left (again self admitted). He tells you all the time who he is.

1
0
Just a guy trying to honor my ancestors, and understand the world.
2 days ago(edited)
The Israel versus Palestine issue in the DR has been very interesting to me. It’s probably the first meaningful issue where I have felt genuine alienation from many/most dissident right British brothers/cousins. The street violence that white Britain’s have suffered at the hands of perhaps the most low IQ gene pool of Muslims in existence has largely perverted the collective British ability to be politically coherent on the issue. It’s an understandable flaw.
The fact is, The only reason that Islam was ever conceivable as something that could exist in Western Civilization is because of Jewish influence. Many otherwise intelligent dissident Britain’s seems to lose sight of this, or otherwise convince themselves that Anglo cucks are the reason for it all. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of how power exchanged hands in the 20th century (again, a misunderstanding seemingly born out of personal annoyance with your local Muslim populations).
When you divorce yourself from these feelings and childish rhetoric (ie, “I don’t like either side!” OK, but that’s not how grown-ups interact with geopolitics) the ugly truth is that we, white gentiles, are not going to stand up to Jews. We just aren’t. I’m not dispensing black pills, I’m being a non-retard. The evidence for this is very clear. As such, siding firmly and publicly alongside the Palestinians is not an act of falling for noble savage myths. It is simply a cold, sober acceptance of our choices for the future- A) If Israel wins this conflict on all fronts (hearts, minds, etc) it will be a thousand years of Zionism. The memory of your- our- extinct people will be that of vile, usurious, hateful, imperialistic cowards. Or option B- we cheer on what is ultimately an irrelevant tribe of “others” with whom we share a mutual enemy.
this is to say nothing of the Counter Currents takes, which is just theorycell silliness born out of homosexual fear of Muslims. It’s not worth addressing.
Less

0
1

@Justsomeguy115
2 days ago
Double whammy!

1
0

@Chabbor
2 days ago
I’d rather have Jews in my country than Muslims. Sure Jews sometimes facilitate Muslims coming in (F Visigoths) but they’re not the metastatic cancer that Muslims are, they’re more of a brain tumour that may stop being benign at any point.

2
10
Hide replies

@Justsomeguy115
2 days ago
Thats like blaming the lungs for getting cancer when youve been smoking for 50 years. It doesnt make any logical sense.

2
2
Hide replies

@Chabbor
2 days ago
Both are cancer but one is metastatic as in it spreads over the whole body and the other is a at times benign singular tumour that could go cancerous at any point.
It makes perfect sense when you think about population sizes.

1
1
purebloodheretic
2 days ago
You can’t see the metastasized cancer the Jews produce already??

Hide replies

@Chabbor
2 days ago
I’m talking in the abstract, not the current day situation.

1
0
purebloodheretic
2 days ago
I don’t think you can really separate the abrahamic religions, it’s one psyop orchestrated by the Jews at the top and the Christian side being their mindless soldiers and the Muslims serving as shock troops for ZOG, all of whom constantly fight each other for their endless wars, it’s all cancerous that will metastasize no matter what.

5
1

@Goodkunt
2 days ago
Muslims are only in your country because Jews put them there.

1
0
Hide replies

@Chabbor
2 days ago
only
Not true though is it? They couldn’t do anything without help.

1
1
Hide replies

@Goodkunt
2 days ago
I remember being as naïve as you. However, you are here watching Woes so you’re on the right track. You will eventually figure it out for yourself.

0
1
Hide replies

@Chabbor
2 days ago
I’m not remotely naive I just have a comprehensive understanding of history rather than just looking for the evil Jew behind everything like a schizo.

1
1
Hide replies

@Goodkunt
2 days ago
I’m not looking for the evil Jew, it is just a fact that almost all evil globalists are Jews.

Hide replies

@Chabbor
2 days ago
Even if that was a fact it would have nothing to do with Jews in the abstract, that would just be the current situation.
You can seperate ideologies from the current situation they find themselves by looking at world history.

1
1
Hide replies

@Goodkunt
2 days ago
Sure.

@long_walk
1 day ago
I don’t see it as J vs M. They’re both unwelcome

2
0
Orthanc-Powered
2 days ago
Woes, I think you just gotta give Sargon the Expat treatment the next time he shows up.

0
0

==========================

See Also

top

Joel Davis – On Activist Politics and White Advocacy – PA Conference Speech – Oct 7, 2023 – Transcript

Mark Collett – The Eternal Struggle – PA Conference Speech 2023 – Oct 7, 2023 – Transcript

Laura Towler – This is Not a Game – PA Conference Speech – Oct 7, 2023 – Transcript

 

 

 

Mark Collett — It’s Okay To Be White — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett — Christmas Adverts – Multicultural Propaganda — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett — What We Must Do To Win — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett — Assad Didn’t Do It – Faked Syrian Gas Attack — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett — The Plot to Flood Europe with 200 Million Africans — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett — The jewish Question Explained in Four Minutes — TRANSCRIPT

Mark Collett at The Scandza Forum, Copenhagen – Oct 12, 2019 — Transcript

Patriotic Weekly Review – with Blair Cottrell – Dec 4, 2019 — TRANSCRIPT

Dangerfield – Talking Tough with Mark Collett – Mar 28, 2020 — Transcript

 

============================================

PDF Download

top

Total words in transcript = 11,916

  • Total words in post = 13,890
  • Total images = xx
  • Total A4 pages = xxx

Click to download a PDF of this post (x.x MB): (Available later)

 

Version History

top

Version 6: Thu, Nov 16, 2023 — Improved formatting. Finished corrections to transcript.

Version 5: Wed, Nov 15, 2023 — Improved formatting. Corrections to first 76/90 mins.

Version 4: Tue, Nov 14, 2023 — Improved formatting. Corrections to first 69/90 mins.

Version 3: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 — Improved formatting. Corrections to first 58/90 mins.

Version 2: Sun, Nov 12, 2023 — Improved formatting. Added Murray image. Corrections to first 46/90 mins.

Version 1: Sat, Nov 11, 2023 — Published post. Includes Odysee comments (50).

]]> https://katana17.com/2023/11/11/millennial-woes-a-gram-of-woes-no-45-nov-7-2023-transcript/feed/ 0 Patriotic Weekly Review with The Iconoclast – Apr 29, 2020 — Transcript https://katana17.com/2020/05/03/patriotic-weekly-review-with-the-iconoclast-apr-29-2020-transcript/ https://katana17.com/2020/05/03/patriotic-weekly-review-with-the-iconoclast-apr-29-2020-transcript/#respond Sun, 03 May 2020 12:59:31 +0000 https://katana17.com/wp/?p=25789 Continue reading →]]>

[In Patriotic Weekly Review number 51, Mark Collett and No White Guilt (Jason) chat with The Iconoclast (Dan) about current events and the nationalist movement. Overshadowed though, by a scandal involving Millennial Woes and his conduct with a woman, that has caused him to become unwelcome in the Patriotic Alternative movement.

— KATANA]

 

Patriotic Weekly Review

With The Iconoclast

 

Apr 29, 2020

 

 

Click here for the video:

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/d6LxWWDhyOE/

 

Mar 29, 2020

 

First published at 21:07 UTC on April 29th, 2020.

MarkCollett

11178 subscribers

Episode 51 of Patriotic Weekly Review with special guest The Iconoclast as well as regular contributors No White Guilt and Dr Patrick Slattery.

Patriotic Weekly Review is a news and entertainment talk show. Opinions, thoughts, and views of guests/hosts do not necessarily represent the opinions, thoughts, and views of all hosts, and their appearance on this channel does not constitute sympathy, agreement, or endorsement of said opinions, thoughts, and views.

You can now donate to me via Bitcoin:
3DBxJNGzRjcADC9beHr62KvYxuVzKmYuw9

Entropy:
https://entropystream.live/app/markcollett

———————————–

The Iconoclast
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClJ8Z0YvEm-ClFj3fdQgQkw
Website: https://iconoclastmagazine.com/

No White Guilt
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkY8CvV8WQFe87CZGmvuYHA
Website: http://nowhiteguilt.org
LESS
Category News & Politics
Sensitivity Normal – Content that is suitable for ages 16 and over

 

TRANSCRIPT

(121:34 mins)

 

[00:10]

 

Mark Collett: Hello everybody. And welcome to Patriotic Weekly Review episode number 51. We are here tonight with Dan the Iconoclast, and as always with our regular co-host Jason, No White Guilt. Now we are live on both YouTube and Radio Albion. Radio Albion is run by my good friend Sven Longshanks and you can check Radio Albion out for a range of different nationalist content 24/7. So if you are starved of good material to watch, or listen to, Radio Albion dot com is a great source of that material.

 

You can contribute to the show either financially, or by asking questions over on Entropy. The Entropy link is in the description of the show it is on Twitter is on Telegram and it is in the live chat. Now that is the way to ask questions. It is also the way to send donations. All donations are read out on the show and the best questions, the most voted questions are asked to the panel, or to the relevant person. Because Entropy runs as a meritocracy questions are voted on those that have voted up are asked. And the best questions and all superchats are read out every single week. If you want to contribute in other ways please use Bitcoin.

 

Now last week as many of you will be aware it was our anniversary show 50th anniversary we had the wonderful Dr. DD [David Duke] on! I’m not going to say his real name, because when you say his name the stream disappears! And as many of you will have realized last week we were probably the only stream I’ve ever seen to be put into limited state midstream without a single racial slur, or swear word being used. Now we muddled on through and we had record numbers on Entropy. We had record numbers of people chatting on Entropy. And it was a good show if any was a great show. Many people have written to me and said it was the best we’ve ever done. So thank you for those who did.

 

And if you want to see that show along with the full back catalogue they are all on BitChute. All of these shows moved to BitChute within 12 hours of being posted on YouTube. That’s very important, because that’s where my fallback catalog is.

 

And due to pressure I have now set up my own DLive accounts I am able to stream on DLive. And in the future not today, but in the future, I will be streaming to both YouTube, Radio Albion, and DLive, all at the same time. This will enable more people to watch and to watch free of any censorship, or hiccups with the stream, which I’m sure is completely “Cohencidental”, but happen rather regularly here on YouTube.

 

But if we ever had a great guest to follow up DD with, it is, of course, the Iconoclast! Who we will be introducing very soon.

 

Now many people in the chat are going to want me to talk about the “big issue”! And I’m not going to dodge talking about the big issue. I’m not gonna run away from talking about the big issue. And the big issue is, of course, the conduct and status of Colin Robertson, aka, Millennial Woes.

 

Now this is a very, very difficult issue to discuss. But it’s something we need to be very, very honest about. But I don’t want to keep repeating myself on this, or for anyone to miss this. So I am going to introduce Jason and Dan now, before we get on to this. So the chats filled up, and no one misses this, because I’m sure many people are going to be here for this.

 

So that’s a bit of a downer to start the show on something like this, but it needs to be discussed and we’re certainly not going to be running from it. We’re certainly not going to be brushing it under the carpet. And I’m certainly not going to be hiding from this particular issue!

 

But we’ll start with you my friend Jason. What have you up to this week? Who’s on Tap, and how have you been?

 

No White Guilt: I am always remarkable! I’m always doing well. Especially when serving White well being and being able to get shoulder to shoulder with the likes of you gentleman, Iconoclast, of course, the great Mark Collett, and all of the heroes in the live chat right now. I’ve already seen a slew of magnificent people. And we’re going to have a great show one way, or another.

 

And we’re going to have a great show on Tap, probably on Saturday. Don’t know exactly who’s gonna be on there yet. But if you’re looking for a great episode of Tap you can find it over on the gardening channel where Mark Collett appeared. And they immediately [05:01] gave a strike, you know, Mark’s talking about. All you gotta do is show up good bring DD, … I almost said it! [loud laughter] bring a certain name onto the show, and I think Mr Collett has achieved that that level of, shall we say, fame for us, infamy for the anti-White’s. Because he showed up, we didn’t do, or say anything to warrant any sort of strike. And yet immediately before the video had even processed the wonderful “lazy Susans” at YouTube sent me a message to tell me:

 

“You’ve got a strike! And you’re not allowed to stream anymore! You’re not allowed!”

 

So we are going to muddle through that. And we have a number of sources, and I’ll be posting those sources today. But a big welcome to Iconoclast! Great to see you brother and looking forward to the show today.

 

Mark Collett: Well it kind of seems fitting but for a show of this magnitude we have a guest of this magnitude. Dan the Iconoclast is Britain’s biggest ethno-nationalism YouTuber. He is a man that produces content which does the unbelievable, the unthinkable, it straddles the gap between intellectual ethnic nationalism and normies! His content reaches tens and tens of thousands of people. His channel has hundreds of thousands of subscribers. And, because of that he has been under relentless attack by the system. This is the greatest badge of honor and his impact on this movement has been huge! He’s red pilled hundreds of thousands. He has brought many, many people to streams like this and we all thank him.

 

He also an incredible magazine called the Iconoclast Magazine, because he realizes that the online world is one where we can disappear from. But the written word published in traditional fashion is much harder to squash. Harder to produce, but harder to squash! His work straddles multiple genres. He discusses multiple topics. And despite the relentless attacks against him he never ever bows his head.

 

He isn’t somebody that I have been in personal contact with for a huge amount of time. But the time I have been in contact with I’ve enjoyed every minute of it. And I’m proud to be able to call him a friend, and welcome into the show for the second time. This was going to be all about you tonight Dan! This was going to be all about YouTube censorship of your channel and your thoughts on the future of free speech.

 

But obviously we have another huge elephant in the room that we need to address. But before we do that please introduce yourself. Tell us where we can find you, how we can contribute your excellent work, and a little bit about your wonderful magazine.

 

Iconoclast: Well, thank you Mark. Nice to be here again. Hello to you as well Jason. And it’s been a while boys! Hello to everyone in the chart as well. Hope you’re having a wonderful night. You gave me a great intro on the previous PWR that I appeared on as well Mark, so I thank you twice for two great intros! You’re making me blush as I said, at the time on that stream as well.

 

I’m doing well mate. You can find all of my stuff at my YouTube channel for now, the Iconoclast. All of my links are usually posted in the description box with all my videos. BitChute and what-have-you, Telegram. And I’m doing well, glad to be here. I’ve just had a nice fat ribeye steak, which was cooked to perfection, if I do say so myself! And I’m ready to go, full of protein! So let’s get this show on the road, boys!

 

[08:24]

 

Mark Collett: That’s the best way to be my friend.

 

So, I was actually going to start with a joking intro today. I had a full joking intro written help for you. It was going to be far more humorous. But unfortunately the humor is somewhat being sucked out of us.

 

And we do have to discuss the big topic. Which is Millennial Woes, aka, Colin Robertson. Many of you will have seen Colin’s statement that was published sometime yesterday evening about his withdrawal from the nationalist movement. Some people will be talking about what this is in relation to and some people will have seen an awful amount of salacious gossip on Twitter, on other social networks, on Telegram. People will be wondering what is true, what is not. I have not seen it all. I do not know the truth of it all. I think few do.

 

And, at this point, rumor and fact, are becoming intertwined. People are speculating. And that is not for me to do. It is not for me to turn this show into EastEnders nationalism, and start speculating on different topics.

 

However, people who are extremely disingenuous are trying to solely link this entire mess with Patriotic Alternative. And my first thoughts on this are very clear. Colin Robertson’s involvement in the nationalist movement, long predates Patriotic Alternative, as do many of the allegations about him that are surfacing on social networks. Colin Robertson has indeed spoken as a guest speaker at two Patriotic Alternative conferences. However, he was never an official of the group. He was never considered to be an official of the group, or offered a role as an official of the group. Colin Robertson worked with Patriotic Alternative as a guest speaker, and promoted Patriotic Alternative in that capacity.

 

And I want to make this very clear. That is not something, which is out of the ordinary. Colin Robertson also spoke at Generation Identity meetings. He spoke at Traditional Britain, Group meetings. He spoke on the continent at Scandza Forums, at the Awakening Conference, and Erkenbrand. He also spoke over in America at Richard Spencer’s NPI event, and at Jared Taylor’s American Renaissance events. So to try and categorize him as just PA, as if he was only Patriotic Alternative, is something that people who are trying to attack myself, Laura and our organization are trying to do. That is completely and utterly false!

 

Colin has also been erroneously linked with myself and Laura, when our links are no greater than his links with numerous other people. Again Colin has been active in this movement for six years. And he has been linked with everyone. From Mike Enoch, Richard Spencer, and Greg Johnson, right through to Lauren Southern, Faith Goldy, and Sargon of Akkad, and Count Dankula. People who are not part of this movement. He is streamed with all of those mentioned, some of them regularly, and has been invited on their streams. He has also been involved with people like Brittany Pettibone and Martin Selma. And admittedly he was linked with myself and Laura Towler. But to try and categorize him as being solely linked with myself and Laura Towler to score political points, is absolutely erroneous!

 

What is happening here is a problem for our movement as a whole. Which Patriotic Alternative is part of but it is not simply a Patriotic Alternative problem. And to characterize it as such is absolutely false! And is being done by some as a form of personal attack. And I’m not gonna let that fly! We must discuss what’s happened, but we must be absolutely honest and absolutely forthright!

 

Now, there are numerous allegations that have been leveled at Colin. And one of those allegations relates to a woman who attended the last Patriotic Alternative conference. And he met at the Patriotic Alternative conference. However, again it is very, very important to point out that his first contact with her was not there, but online before the conference. It was not that he met her there. Again, this is being erroneously reported for reasons of point-scoring.

 

Now as all of you will know at Patriotic Alternative it is our only wish for our conferences and events to be absolutely safe and enjoyable experiences for all attendees, regardless of their age sex, or any other characteristic. And we will never compromise on that. And that is why we have taken the following actions.

 

Collin Robertson will no longer be invited to speak at Patriotic Alternative events. And he will no longer be welcome at Patriotic Alternative events in any capacity. We are taking all allegations made against him with a great deal of care. We’re taking them very, very seriously! And we have spoken to the girl in question, that has been mentioned. People who are saying that she is in some way underage, or that she has been groomed again, that is complete nonsense, absolute nonsense! But since this matter has come to light we have been in constant contact with her. We have fully supported her. And we [15:02] have taken great lengths to listen to her and to view the other allegations being made by different women.

 

And as, you know, recently I became a father myself to a little girl. And that has only increased my resolve in making sure that the women in Britain in our wider society are safe, but women at our events and our movement are always afforded the full respect that they deserve. And I’m not ever compromise on that!

 

There are many things said about other movements other political parties. And one of those things that is said is that the leaders of those movements, or the people who take responsibility, often refuse to take responsibility at times like this. They often refuse to take any responsibility. They attempt to cover things up. They attempt to silence victims. And they attempt to do what I would say was the wrong thing. And we’ve seen that in all walks of British life. We’ve seen that in politics, in social services, we’ve seen it from the police, we’ve seen it from local councils, we’ve seen from the BBC!

 

We will not be doing that! We intend to set a new, very high, standard of conduct, both in our personal lives, our public lives, and professionally! And we know that words are not enough. Actions are what counts. And if there’s one positive thing to come out of all of this, and I want to make this clear for once and for all, we will never tolerate anti-social behavior at our events from anyone connected to our movement, in any way! And that is our promise! And we will stick to that! And we will endeavour to maintain that high standard!

 

Our events have clear rules, clear conduct. And I want to clear codes of conduct. I want to make it very clear none of the allegations being made relate to anything that happened at any of our events. And those stating so erroneously, are doing so to score points! And they are people who are largely a faceless group on the internet that do not want to reveal who they are. And ironically often of the people saying the most cringeworthy and disgusting thing about women.

 

I think I’m obviously going to pass this to Jason and Dan to see if they want to say anything, but I hope that Patriotic Alternative will be followed by other groups in the movement, as a wider movement, by taking this principled stand on this issue. And I will obviously be open to questions about this particular topic.

 

I am NOT gonna hide from this. I haven’t hid from this in any way. I’ve come out this evening, I have opened the show with this very serious topic. I have tackled it head-on, and I will continue to tackle issues, or this particular issue in that manner, in an open and honest way. So I hope people appreciate that and I hope people will see through any lies being spread and I hope we can, after we discuss this topic, we can move on and discuss other important issues that are in the news cycle.

 

[18:40]

 

Jason is there anything that you have to say.

 

No White Guilt: Yes, regrettably. This is a it’s hard to put words to and I have to say I’m really hurt by the entire event, because Woes meant quite a bit time I think, certainly to Jared and I, since we met each other through Millennial. And a lot of people have been brought together by way of Millennial and the work that Millennial Woes has done.

 

And I think it’s important to focus on that as human beings we have weaknesses. We do terrible things sometimes we do wonderful things sometimes. And certainly when Woes was serving White well-being in a way that accorded with my morality he was doing something wonderful. And people come to White well-being they come to the service of our people and they [20:01] are looking for particularly when they come to go free, they’re looking for healing. They know that we are a movement of redemption. They know that failings and frailties and a past is going to be understood. And that will stumble on the way toward the mountains peak. But, of course, we say that you when you stumble you have to get back up and you have to continue moving toward that mountains peak.

 

Now there are certain things certainly that you can do and that can negate, nullify, the lead we give a person to improve and to reclaim their life and to redeem who and what they are. Because these first of all they we give that lead, we give that that room for improvement, because anti-Whiteism has made a mess of our lives as individuals. We come into this world, a world that is wrecked by anti-Whiteism, we are poisoned by mean pathogens. Many of us don’t know how to act like a man, how to act like a woman, how to act in society. A society that doesn’t know how to act.

 

And we’re seeing now with shut downs, the lock downs, people are fighting, people are getting arrested for just being home with the people they supposedly love. There’s an anticipation that there’s going to be a record number of divorces after the lock downs are finished, as opposed to a baby boom. Which would have happened at earlier periods in our peoples history, because the anti-White’s had not been able to destroy as much of our civilization, as much of our characters, as much of who we are, and what we believe we are supposed to aspire to be.

 

So we have all been damaged and we all do wrong. And yet there are some things that are unacceptable. And that is harming others. We have people who come to White well being, who come to go free, who are very vulnerable themselves. And they have, as I say, like even the predators they’re poisoned with mean pathogens. Some of them come with never knowing who their father, or mother was, or from physical emotional, or sexual abuse in their lives. We even have folks who have come over from making pornographic movies. Their lives weren’t perfect before they got into pornographic movies, as though that made anything any better.

 

And so it is with a great deal of empathy, empathy, for Woes that, I say that after these events he, without question, has to go. And he has to go from the community.

 

He’s chosen with these actions to put himself ahead of the rest of us. To open us to tarnishing by anti-White’s the same sort of salacious allegations that are made against every victim of anti-Whiteism. Now with some measure of evidence, or reportage. And my heart goes out to anyone who has been victimized. I think really all of us have been, but certainly the ones, or one who has been victimized in this event.

 

And I want to reiterate that the actions that Mark Collett is taking, the actions that Patriotic Alternative is taking, these actions are indicative these are the fruits of the kind of morality, the kind of character, the kind of virtue that we exemplify. Even when it is most painful to do so. It is not an easy thing to hear and to learn that someone that you’re friends with, that someone that has, as I say, so much, so many of us came together, because of the work of Woes, is to whatever degree responsible for some sort of victimization. It’s a very painful thing!

 

So I want you all to really try to, … And in all of those that you hear who were passing around disgusting rumors about these sorts of things, that mature men and women sat down when the test was put upon them and they passed that test. They did the right thing!

 

So, my hat’s off to Patriotic Alternative, and to Mark Collett, a real demonstration of what it is to be a leader in a time when there are very difficult challenges.

 

And I want to reassure everyone that this is always going to be the way we behave in the White positive sphere, at least this part of it. That we are not going to allow someone, no matter how popular, no matter how liked, as is the case in the Republicans and then the Democrats and all of these major parties across the West, we are not going to allow someone to prey upon vulnerable people. Young men, young women, people of any age, people who are vulnerable, because of any sort of circumstance in their life, we are not going to permit that at any point!

 

We are always going to protect the vulnerable in our community. And this is the evidence that even when it is a most painful thing to do, that we will do the right thing. Now I’ll pass it back.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you. Dan do you have any thoughts on this? Obviously you are aware of the situation. Would you like to add anything?

 

Iconoclast: I wouldn’t like to talk about Colin himself, because I don’t feel like it’s necessary now after all of that. I would like to talk about you though Mark. Because, I don’t think people realize in the comments section, or just in and around this scene, the amount of work in the amount of pressure that is put on you in this movement.

 

And I just want to say that for everybody who is who is watching, that Mark Collett is a decent man an honest man, and he handles these things with the utmost care. And I wouldn’t wish anyone, I mean, I really wouldn’t want my worst enemy to have to deal with the pressure that Mark Collett has to face in this movement on a daily basis! It’s really unbelievable at times! And I think I’ll just leave it at that.

 

I agree with what you say Mark and just well done to you for handling all of this and coming out and hitting it straight on really. Because you can’t let these things rumble under the surface and allow rumors and speculation to pick up speed and snowball into something that that is completely inaccurate.

 

So, well done for tackling this head-on and I think everyone appreciates the honesty. And that’s all I’ve got to say on this matter.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you, both of you, for your thoughts. And thank you Dan for such such kind words. I know that what’s happening now will be confusing to some in the chat. And other people will feel to a large degree hurt. People will feel upset. Some people will feel confused.

 

But I want to conclude this now. And I want people to understand that we deal with these things in the way we do, for the good of the movement, and to ensure that we are better than other movements. And so that we don’t end up slipping into a state where we become the things we hate. Because if we were to do that, if we were to become the things we hate, we would not only fail ourselves, we’d not only fail the wider movement, but we would also fail our people. And I strongly believe that this movement — not just Patriotic Alternative — but the wider nationalist movement is the only salvation for our people. And we cannot allow that to be destroyed, or be tainted.

 

So, you know, thank you for listening and let us move on to different topics. And as I said, if people have questions they can, of course, ask them through Entropy. They can, of course, ask them later in the show and we will address any further concerns, and be as candid as we are allowed to be.

 

So, without further ado, let us move on to the big news that is in the news cycle. And we will start by asking Dan. Have you ever cured anyone from Coronavirus by injecting them with disinfectant, or exposing them to high strength UV lights?

 

Iconoclast: No I haven’t! Is the answer to that question. You referring to Trump here in his press conference. The thing is, the problem with Trump right, I call him a “smart dumb person”, because obviously you’ve got to have a bit about you to get to where he is in life. But, you know, give him a microphone and sometimes you can just, … I mean, can someone please shut him up sometimes! , you know what I mean? I thought it was embarrassing. I couldn’t [30:02] help but laugh to be honest at that press conference. It did make me chuckle quite a bit. Maybe that’s bad, I don’t know.

 

But here’s the thing I mean, this coronavirus situation, it’s just spiraling out of control. And I’ve tried to actively disengage from the entire topic really because, you know what it’s like, you come online and some corner of the Internet saying this about it. Another corner is saying another thing. And I’m just sitting here in the middle thinking:

 

“Well I don’t really know what to think about this!”

 

I wrote an article for my magazine lately and I said, you know, sometimes I do fall victim to some wild conspiracy theories. Not that I believe them full-on. But they are attractive, and they are alluring and seductive at times.

 

And I don’t really know what to think about this entire thing… I don’t think it’s the apocalypse, but at the same time.. I don’t think it’s just the flu either. I think there’s a lot of problems going on.

 

This police state that we’re walking into. There’s a lot of fears about that especially with the actions of the police using drones to spy on dog walkers!

 

And I don’t know if you have read about this new act that think it’s been debated in Parliament, or talked about in British Parliament’s about “forced vaccinations”? I don’t know what that’s about! I don’t know if that’s true, or not! I saw it circulating on Telegram yesterday in various groups I’m involved with.

 

But the entire situation is so confusing that I genuinely don’t know what to think Mark! And I don’t know where we’re going. But I think a lot of people share a similar sentiment with me. That I don’t think things will ever get back to “normal”, quote, unquote. Whatever that entails is beyond me. But I think there’s a lot of problems coming our way especially with economics. For example, I think we’re moving towards digital currencies and the phasing out of cash, paper cash. That has big implications for a whole wide range of things.

 

I am aware I’m rambling, but yes, the Trump conference was very humorous I have to say! It was something I enjoyed laughing at this week, in otherwise quite a dour week! But yeah there you go. That’s my unfiltered thoughts for you.

 

Mark Collett: Well I’m pleased you brought up money, because money is something that obviously everybody wishes to acquire, they need in order to pay their mortgages, their bills, put food on the table.

 

What do you make of recent allegations that have started circling that the government is potentially going to levy every family in the UK and take a degree of their wealth? It’s gonna be called a national levy, in order to pay for the fallout of Covid 19. How do you think that would be received if it does happen? Could you see them ever doing it?

 

People like Peter Hitchens are talking about it. This isn’t something that is being just discussed by somebody like Alex Jones, who’s talking about people at Bohemian Grove coming up with it, or FEMA camps! This is actually been discussed by mainstream journalists. And they’re saying that this national I every will tax every family, a large portion of their savings, or even add to their mortgages in order to allow the government to recoup money needed to carry on bailing the country out!

 

Iconoclast: Yeah it’s very concerning. I think I read that yesterday on Telegram.. I don’t think that’ll go down very well.

 

But what you have to understand about this whole coronavirus crisis is it is putting all of us into debt, essentially! We are all in debt for something that none of us ever envisaged. None of us ever wanted. None of us ever welcomed. And if the government were to try and do that, and I’m not going to put it past them to be truthful with you. I’m not gonna put it past them whatsoever. I would like to think the response would be hostile towards it, because that is just such a breach of people’s individual sovereignty really, and in people’s rights to get ahead in life. And I certainly will not be happy if the government dips their grubby little hand into my bank account. I don’t have much money anyway — for starters — to pay for something that they helped facilitate!

 

I mean, let’s not forget that the reason why, … Let’s just take it all at face value and say that this virus is a serious thing. You know, let’s not forget that the system of globalization that we all exist under, the system that the government perpetrates, the system that the government props up that has welcomed this virus into our lives! That has accelerated the spread of this virus!

 

And essentially we’re going to be paying for the government’s mistakes. And for the West’s mistakes as a whole. Because this is a worldview that we unfortunately are slaves to in the West. Globalism is just opening the door for things like this.

 

And after coronavirus is done, we can’t rest safely and securely in our beds because, you know, 10 years down the line something else is [35:01] going to come along. It’s just the nature of things, unless things change and at the moment, I hate to be pessimistic. But.. I don’t think things are going to change in our favor right now from what I’m seeing.

 

So yes, so we’ve just been thrown into this debt that we never wanted, we never asked for, and it’s a bad situation. And this comes in with the digital currencies as well, the digital assets that I think are really accelerating behind the scenes. The US government was talking about a digital dollar note, not that long ago. And those conversations are happening quite out front and center and I think people need to be worried about this and I’m very concerned about it as the days go by, I’m getting more and more concerned.

 

So yeah.. I don’t think that people will take too kindly to that. But on the flip side, you know, people do stand outside their doors and clap the NHS when they’re told to, don’t they? So who knows what the British public will deal with? It’s hard to say. I think it will be a split down the middle 50/50. Maybe some will be like:

 

“Yes, I will help pay for this.”

 

I was speculating on a stream recently that, because of all the news, you know, you’ve seen it around where the corona virus affects the black and ethnic minority community worse than everyone else! And, of course, they’re linking it to inequality and racism. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the government set up an official funding body, or something like that, where the British are taxed money, and the money is put into something like this to help fight diseases in the BAME community, or something like that. I think that is definitely something that can happen.

 

And, you know, whether this virus is as serious as they’re saying there’s no doubt that the powers that be are definitely going to use the chaos to their advantage. And this is just something, you know, that we’re going to have to fight when it comes along.

 

Mark Collett: One more question then, because, that’s some very good points you’ve made there, but the Labour Party’s new leader Keir Starmer has already made Doreen Lawrence — the mother of Stephen Lawrence — into a bit of a “cause celeb” again, because she’s being used, or being wheeled out to lead an investigation headed up by the Labour Party into how disproportionately affected black and ethnic minority communities are. Do you see this as something unusual, or is this just another example of how the Labour Party in Britain no longer cares for the White working-class and he’s just completely centered on whichever minority third thinks gonna vote for them next?

 

Iconoclast: Well I can’t see how that investigation would be in any way bias Mark? [sarc] I mean, it she sounds like the perfect woman for the job doesn’t she. For people that don’t know Stephen Lawrence was a young [black] man who was murdered in the early 90s and who was this, you know, to make a long story short there was this huge racism row within police. And effectively it crippled the police, because now the police are terrified of being accused of being White supremacists, or racist what-have-you [I doubt this very much. I think it’s being used as an excuse to facilitate crime against Whites].

 

So this is just yet another alarm bell ringing as loudly as humanly possible. But then again. What do you expect from the Labour Party. What do you expect from both parties? You know, it wouldn’t surprise me if the Conservatives did something similar. It doesn’t really matter which party is doing it, they’re both the same and they both share similar outlooks for the future of Britain.

 

Yeah, it’s just ridiculous! I didn’t actually know this story until we just mentioned it their Mark. But yeah, Stephen Lawrence’s mother, you know, someone defined by quote-unquote “racism” and police brutality and institutional bias. She’s the woman to head up this investigation? I don’t see what could go wrong!

 

And it’s clearly the Labour Party pandering to their new support base. And why wouldn’t they do this? We’ve seen the graphs of support that the Labour Party get from the BAME community. They overwhelmingly vote for Labour never mind how much the Conservatives try and pander to those groups they still always vote for Labour. So it just seems like another decision down that road.

 

I mean, you’ve seen Keir Starmer’s frontbench, haven’t you? Bloody David Lammy, Naz Shah.. I mean, it’s the who’s who of superstars from the Labour Party it’s amazing stuff.. I didn’t think they could get any worse after Corbyn, but apparently they can and they are. So yeah, typical stuff from the Labour Party here. They hate the working-class and they hate Britain as far as I’m concerned.

 

Mark Collett: Well I would pass this over to No White Guilt, but somebody has just sent me a message saying:

 

“Have you seen the video of Tommy Robinson stating that he would wipe out the White race?”

 

I haven’t. I don’t even know if that exists. [I think he’s being sarcastic] But if it does please send it and we’ll play it on the show. But before we potentially watch that explosive video I want to throw this over to Jason. Are there any parallels here about what’s happening in Britain to what’s happening in America? Have there been any special outreaches to minority communities. And. What do you make of the pushback against de Blasio statement today, that even a certain (((ethnic group))) must obey the law?

 

[40:05]

 

No White Guilt: Well every now and again you’ll see that. Just to start with the last part of your question, every now and again you’ll see that as sort of a bone that’s thrown. And then they’ll come back and they’ll make amends by throwing themselves into every puddle that any one of these people might come across, so that they have a nice little footbridge over the water! [lol].

 

It is, there are endlessly — and we said here — that they were going to be endlessly blaming Western kind for this, saying that non-Whites suffering at all is White people’s fault! They suffered more it’s White people’s fault! They got the disease more, it’s White people’s fault! Not, because of anything that they were doing they’re never responsible for anything that happens in their lives.

 

So we knew this from the very beginning that this was how the anti-White narrative, because this is what we talk about this overarching narrative by which we’re forced to live our lives, by which reality is bent and distorted to fit into the anti-White narrative. We knew that they would do that and that is obviously ends up being the case. Everything that we were talking about before, all of our explanation of what motivates the anti-Whites is what ends up predicting and then satisfying those predictions when they act these ways. When they say these sorts of things.

 

Now I have to say on the other side of the spectrum, you know, anti-Whites aside, I am just I’m so fed up with this endless talk! Every time the wind blows it’s the same claim about, you know, all of these conspiracy theories that are just, you know, somebody writes a White paper somewhere and they say, for example, that X, Y, or Z, is going to be forced upon us at some point in the future. And then something happens. And then everybody goes off on this tangent of:

 

“Oh this is the time!”

 

Nobody remembers this is such a tired rerun! There’s not gonna be mass force vaccinations! They’re not gonna be dragging you out of your houses to vaccinate you! Stop with these fantasies ladies and gentlemen. Whenever there is a claim — this is an easy way to look at it — whenever there is a claim that is going to victimize the entire population, you can know right now it’s not going to come into fruition! There’s too many victims. Now if they say:

 

“Well we’re going to get rid of the anti-White slurs on YouTube.”

 

That can probably happen, because there are too few of us that are going to get victimized. Too many people are already believing that we are this, you know, threat, or whatever to the stability of society. So they could probably push that kind of a thing through. But saying to the entire population:

 

“We’re going to make all of the entire population do X Y, or Z!”

 

That’s just too many victims! And the sort of victimization that can be done in those cases are these tiny increments of a victimization. Might they tack on a little bit of attacks? Probably. Might they say:

 

“Well all the money we gave away to the Americans when we had this bailout you’re gonna have to pay a back if you’re a regular American in your taxes, but the billionaires and trillionaires they don’t have to pay anything back.”

 

That’ll probably happen. But no, men in Humvees are not gonna pull up in front of your house and drag you out of your house to inject you with some poisons!

 

And this sort of thing is, the reason why it animates me. First of all is I get bored with the same stupid reruns of these claims every single time the wind blows hard! Every single time people make these videos! And I get tired! It’s just stupid! So it takes us off on these wrong paths so we’re not serving White well being. We’re not getting to our brothers and sisters.

 

And this is what harms us two ways, and I’m gonna pass it back. It harms us these two ways. We get off on people, too many of us get off on this asinine stuff, instead of waking up our brothers and sisters!

 

What if we had — and I said this the other day — what if we had 50,000 people going free when this pandemic hit the planet? And then they could go out to all of these rallies that are happening right now, people losing their jobs, losing their way of life, losing their savings, their little savings they do have, that has washed away with the printing of the goddamn currency! And then they’re going to defame these people!

 

What if we have 50,000 people going free and they could get out in these cities and say to these people in their pickup trucks and everything:

 

“Hey I can tell you why this is happening and it’s not, because lizard people are going to introduce some Martian currency on planet Earth! It has something very real to do with groups of people that victimized us, because they’re anti-Whites! And you should start thinking about yourself as a community if you’re gonna survive as an individual!”

 

There’s that! There is that, instead of it all of this asininity! But then the other fact is that, when you go out and you say this stupid garbage to folks, you’ve burned your credibility for all time! Nobody’s going to listen to you when you’ve told them for the tenth time that you’re gonna be dragged out of your house and given injections in your neck by government workers, because the wind has blown hard this time!

 

Get real and stop damaging the reputation! And this goes, I mean, my anger goes with what we’re talking about earlier. Stop damaging the reputation of the community so that we can start saving our race before it is too late!

 

[45:18]

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you for that. And we are going to move on now. Because recently I have been the subject of many attacks. And I have been disavowed by any people in my time. In fact, I think I’ve lost count of those who have indeed disavowed me over my time in the movement. People have disavowed me for a variety of reasons, apparently.

 

I go too far to the right and sometimes say spicy things about books I’ve read. I sometimes go too far to the Left and have people on my channel who certain people classify as degenerate. So it’s kind of a weird thing. I’m pulled in numerous directions I’m often attacked and disavowed for doing the very opposite things.

 

So it’s kind of hard to walk a line when you’re being attacked for going one way then you go the other way and get attacked for going that way too. It’s almost like a balancing act. And yes I have recently been disavowed by a stupid kangaroo! A kangaroo that I wiped the floor with, in a debate on the kill stream. And he’s never forgiven me and he’s still licking his wounds.

 

But one person here tonight who is almost the nice guy of nationalism is Dan, and I never ever thought anybody would ever disavow Dan. I never thought anyone would disavow Dan. But recently Dan came out with a comment so extreme, so over the top that the disavowal from Anne Marie Waters of For Britain came in rather swiftly!

 

Now Dan’s heretical comment according to Anne Marie Waters from For Britain was that Dan doesn’t believe that Rishi Sunak, or Priti Patel, should be Prime Minister, because they aren’t of indigenous stock. And he believes that people who run the country should be of the people. People who represent the people should be of the people! And he has been admonished for this! How do you feel about being publicly disavowed? I was gonna say by the lovely Anne Marie Waters, but that would be a lie! [loud laughter]

 

Iconoclast: Well, guilty as charged! Im sorry to everyone who abandoned me, who disavowed me, because of that Rishi Sunak comment. I will be making many more similar comments in the future, sorry to say to you.

 

Yeah, that was a weird one, wasn’t it Mark? Because she spent, … Well first of all, let me backtrack a second, because I know people have been asking people have been asking me about this for last few weeks and I’ve talked about on a few streams. But it’s worth going over again here so it was strange to wake up that that morning and I actually woke up to your message Mark you said something along the lines of:

 

“Lol! You get a mention in this Dan!”

 

And linked me the video and I uh, what’s this and checked it out and it was what it was. But people seem to think that Anne Marie Waters and myself have a deeper relationship than we do, or did.

 

The truth is I spoke to her a couple of times. I met her once in person to do a video when she was up here in the Northeast campaigning for I think it was a council election, or something like that in Hartlepool not nothing major but one of her team that they messaged me and said, or do you want to come down and interview Anne? Would be good content for you she likes you stuff and I said sure why not.

 

So I went down there had a decent interview softball questions admittedly, but I wasn’t looking to pick a fight and I knew that I had significant political differences with Anne Marie Waters mainly on the Israel thing. Now I don’t understand why someone claiming to be a British nationalist has to go so hard and heavy on the support for Israel in the manifesto. I don’t understand that I’ve never understood it and I’m glad that PA obviously don’t do that.

 

But while I was there and I told you this story Mark and you had a laugh about it and it’s interesting now, because she says that she, you know, the only tie that she has to Israel is that she doesn’t hate it. Well maybe that’s true but the thing is when I was there she was helping me move a table around so I could set up my microphone and set up my camera in order to do the interview. And either it was already on the table, or it fell out for a pocket, or bag, or something but this little Israeli flag pin badge fell on the table as we were moving it.

 

And I didn’t say anything at the time, because I thought well if I bring this up then the interview might not even go ahead, because we’ll get into an argument. So I left it.

 

So it’s interesting to see how she defended, you know, her Israeli talking points on that recent video. You know, if I said that the only connection I have to Luxembourg is I don’t hate Luxembourg, but yet I was carrying around a Luxembourg flag pin badge, that would be a little weird wouldn’t it? I just thought that was odd. But I left it at the time.

 

But getting back to your question. Actually, Mark I’ll let you follow up on that, because you wanted me to tell that story and then I’ll come back. So what are your thoughts on that? And then I’ll continue if you want.

 

[50:29]

 

Mark Collett: I just think it’s so funny! There are these people and they constantly shill for Israel. Then, when people say you guys are shilling for Israel, they act with such shock and horror, as if the accusation is utterly Baseless! [loud laughter] And then when you meet them they’re almost like cartoon villains aren’t then? They’re “bad guy” card falls out of their front pocket in front of everyone! And to and behold they’re actually a member of the club! It’s almost cartoonish in the way it happens!

 

But when you told me this it made me laugh so much and I thought it’s just absolutely ridiculous! But the day also after she’d made her attack on you and I, she then appeared on a small stream where every flag in the background it’s just like Israeli flags everywhere! Lolo. And she sat there in the streams like:

 

“I don’t know why people would link me with Israel?”

 

Behind it’s just all this Israeli, … And you are thinking to yourself [loud laughter] they’re just so brazen! They’re so absolutely brazen with it! But I find it almost perfect in a way, because it is so comedic. And as I say that was a fantastic story! But carry on.

 

Iconoclast: Yeah it sounds almost too good to be true doesn’t it? But for people doubting that story and she might not remember it, or she might deny it. I don’t know but I’m not gonna lie about something like that. I mean, it did happen and it threw me off at the time but I just got on with the job I was there to do. I’d travelled to see her and all that stuff. But putting aside that little thing.

 

The attack was very strange and I felt a lot of animosity in her voice and it was weird Mark, because she spent most of the video two-thirds of the video attacking you personally in very childish ways. Now I don’t know what history you Anne Marie Waters have if any that’s not really my concern.

 

Mark Collett: None.

 

Iconoclast: Okay well that’s there you go. But it seems to me that she was a little bit threatened by Patriotic Alternative. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that her video came out at the same sort of time that other people were making very vocal criticisms of PA and in sticking the boot in, so to speak. I don’t think that’s a coincidence at all.

 

Not to get conspiratorial here, but yes that when she started moving on to me it took me by surprise, because I thought we had a decent relationship. I haven’t spoken to her since we did that interview and I haven’t spoken to her since this attack. But it just shows the gulf doesn’t it between a group like PA and a group like For Britain. Ethno-nationalists and civic nationalists. There’s a line that they warned cross. And we were pretty honest about what we believed and I was up front and honest enough about Rishi Sunak. And it’s nothing personal against him.. I don’t think he’s a bad guy. I don’t hate the man but he’s a symbol of how far this country has changed.

 

And the fact that the media are promoting him as a possible contender to be the Prime Minister after Boris Johnson well that just says everything you need to know the man isn’t British he’s not English his parents are Indian he was born in this country but like Enoch Powell said all the way back in the 70s, you know, of English parents gave birth to an English child in China that child isn’t Chinese he’s English. His home is England no one would doubt that it’s his home.

 

But when it comes to non-Whites somehow that’s not the deal somehow people have a huge problem saying that about them and also she just I want to pull her up on something else she said that Priti Patel as a Home Secretary has done more to curb illegal immigration than anyone else and I have to say that is just outright nonsense!

 

I mean, how many channel crossings are we having every day? How many immigrants are coming to Britain every year? How many illegal immigrants do we have in Britain now? I mean, it’s off the chart! Just, because she deported like ten Jamaicans a few months ago most of them didn’t get deported, by the way, they were look there were more that got kept here then got deported but, because ten got sent back, or she’s tough no she isn’t none of them are tough it’s all nonsense!

 

So I mean, she can attack me personally all she wants but at least get your facts right as well for God’s sake! So I mean, it was just a funny situation all around. And Mark I mean, how [55:00] do you feel about these attacks, because like you said they are coming thick and fast and I do feel for you. But I think it’s a positive thing I think it shows that our ideas and our movement is the thing that people want to be a part of it is the threat and it is where people are moving to and I think they’re scared of us, quite frankly.

 

Mark Collett: I can honestly say this nothing makes me more comfortable and more happy than being attacked by people like Anne Marie Waters! And, in fact, if Anne Marie Waters had the guts and the integrity she claims to have wouldn’t attack me she would debate me. But she will never debate me neither will any of these other Civnats now they’re all running scared talking about how they don’t debate people like me anymore. Why not? Isn’t that what the Left say? Isn’t it the Left that says that no platform no platform for those people on the right and just as she used lots of leftist arguments against me in her attack she is now using leftist rhetoric in order to get out of debating me, because they don’t want any dialog, because they know they get destroyed as soon as we open channels of dialogue.

 

And it’s important to back up what Dan said here with some actual figures to pan it out Dan was very factual in saying that Priti Patel is the very opposite of what Anne Marie Waters said. Whereas Anne Marie Waters had pretty perturbed and more than any other Home Secretary to reduce immigration.

 

Priti Patel is the woman who is overseeing fifteen thousand migrants per day flooding into Britain to take British jobs at a time when British unemployment is at a record high! A high that hasn’t been seen for decades and decades!

 

Priti Patel is not doing and I said this at election time I think people remember me saying this I said that have you seen conservatives and the Labour Party’s the Conservatives are better at marketing multiculturalism and open borders and labor so conservatives say we’re going to have open borders in a way that appeals to people.

 

We’re not going to have upper limits guys but we are going to have a points-based system and then people like Anne Marie Waters run around saying problems solved and I don’t know why Anne Marie Waters says things like this, because she’s meant to be the leader of a radical political party that wants to overhaul the system. But then she’s standing on the side with her Conservative Party pom-poms doing an awkward little dance and cheering the non-indigenous Home Secretary that he’s breaking all mass immigration records at a time when British workers meet need jobs more than ever! It’s so absurd! It’s so it’s so the wrong way round it’s unbelievable!

 

And I want to make this clear I am NOT I am not perfect I make mistakes I am a human being and I have said things that some people don’t like. I’ve said things that have been mischaracterized and I’ve said things that admittedly have been foolish and probably I shouldn’t have said.

 

But I am always clear on one thing we are a radical party that isn’t looking to tweak the way the system works we’re a radical party that wants to destroy the current system and completely replace it and reshape it from the top-down for the benefit of our people. And. I don’t think Anne Marie Waters would ever say that, because, I don’t think that is her goal. If anything she is a gatekeeper and somebody who ultimately props up the Conservative Party.

 

And anyone here tonight the things the Conservative Party is their friend and that the Conservative Party in any way stands for the interests of the indigenous people just needs to look at the current migration numbers. What do you think Dan?

 

Iconoclast: Yes I mean, I think you’re right it is just a question of marketing isn’t it, because the Labor Party are very open and honest about what they stand for I mean, they wear it on their sleeves that poster campaigns are full of pro-refugee pro-migrant propaganda the Conservatives hide it better they see, you know, their little pirates here’s the thing you can look at this from two ways right first of all it is terrible what the Conservatives do, because they say one thing they make you think a certain way and then they do completely the opposite against your interests.

 

But at the same time they are using strong rhetoric that they wouldn’t have considered using years ago so I think that at least on the language front even though they completely betray their own words but at least on the language front our talking points in our concerns are penetrating in some way, because they know they have to say those types of things to get elected. So they must know well they do know that that is the sentiment in the country and across the West at large.

 

[60:00]

 

But again treacherous! Treacherous! Treacherous! The massive amount of immigration don’t forget people we’ve had a Conservative government for ten years now I know they were in a coalition for since 2010 but really it was a Conservative government. Since then the immigration to this country has been off the charts it’s been massive! They’re not tough at the border they’re not tough on anything! They’re not tough on crime!

 

They’ll say that all these things they say that they will be, you know, changing all the way that all the things that labor have done to this country to ruin it but, you know, you can blame Tony Blair and then a New Labour for introducing mass immigration on the scale that we’re seeing now. But you can’t excuse the Tories for continuing it they’ve done nothing to stop it leaving the European Union is all fine and good and I was a lever I supported that, but to think that it’s gonna stop non-European immigration in this country like the Tories allowed you to believe it would then it’s wrong there’s gonna be more of it than ever.

 

And I think they scrapped their points to base system the other day didn’t they went back on that so I mean, even their campaign pledges that were the front of their campaign oh no will scrapped it now, you know, we’ll just get rid of it, because we don’t actually want to do anything but the party of big business. Big business loves mass immigration they don’t care about us, it’s economy first with them and that’s about it. Yeah that’s what I’ve got to say they are worse than the Labour Party in my opinion.

 

Mark Collett: Well do you know, who else likes mass immigration.

 

Iconoclast: Go on. God! All right, let’s listen to this one!

“If you could just please send a coin donation to TR News to help us wipe out the White race!”

 

Mark Collett: Did you all hear that?

 

Iconoclast: Yeah, I’ve seen that before a couple of months ago I think.

 

Mark Collett: I haven’t seen that, but I find it really funny. And I find it funny for two reasons he’s obviously going to claim he was joking he’s obviously going to claim that this was all one big joke it was a joke. It’s all in good spirits he’s mocking people like us. Well in doing this he’s doing two things.

 

Firstly he is did eyeing the truth he’s denying the real threat that faces our people he’s denying our replacement and our genocide. And secondly he’s doing something that he wouldn’t tolerate, said, or done about any other person. Now if I put on a peaked cap from a certain period of history started strutting around speaking in an accent from a foreign country, a foreign accent, and joking about the extermination of another group, Tommy wouldn’t be laughing! Because that wouldn’t be a joke! That would be hate speech.

 

In fact, Allison Shabloz a woman who came to our conference made jokes made humorous satirical songs about certain aspects of history, certain historical narratives and she was taken to court for that. And isn’t it again telling and she was found guilty mind, you know, she served time in jail for that. Disgusting!

 

But isn’t it amazing that these people actually underlined our points they actually prove our points it is absolutely acceptable to joke about the replacement of White people demographic change it’s absolutely acceptable to joke about the White race dying out when in some countries like South Africa that is very real where farm attacks, anti-White racist attacks violent genocide takes place on a regular basis.

 

But joking about all of that is absolutely acceptable and Tommy thinks it’s hilarious but I can guarantee if anyone on this panel, or anyone else for that matter joked even joked about anything like that to do with another ethnic group he would be carrying around the begging bowl banging the drum asking for donations and calling for people’s free speech to be restricted.

 

And that’s another thing isn’t it I’ve often said free speech is a one-way street if you mock Christians it’s acceptable. But if you mock other religious groups off to jail. If you mock wines acceptable if you mock other ethnicities off to jail! And I’ve often said that you mock straight people acceptable, if you mock other sexualities off to jail! And I’ve often said this is practiced by the establishment groups like the BBC run shows like Jerry Springer the opera mocking people of indigenous descent mocking Jesus blaspheming in terrible ways and it’s on TV.

 

But these establishment groups would never mock other religions they would never mock other cultures they would never make jokes at other ethnicities. And that’s an establishment thing and there you see Tommy Robinson doing what is very much an establishment thing. And when he does things like this when he acts in this manner he thinks he’s being clever.

 

But he’s not actually clever at all, because all he’s doing is showing us just how much in sync with the establishment he is. Just like when he calls us racists. Just like when he wanted to make “Shalom” [documentary about a jew] just like when he does many, many other things that are just subtle tells that he’s not actually a radical he’s not actually against the system but he’s actually part of the system.

 

And so happy to use their narrative when it suits him and so unhappy to actually say anything of a radical nature especially if the thing that people want him to say is about the defense of the indigenous people. Do anyone else have any commentary on that before we move on to the superchats?

 

No White Guilt: I’ll just very briefly say that everything you said was absolutely on point about the totality of it! His character the way that the system operates relative to these things. And the other thing I want to say when it comes to Waters is that in human society there are going to be individuals who strive for power who strive for wealth, etc., the regime rewards those entities and organizations with positive press, with finances with advise.

 

Those entities and organizations individuals that benefit them that secure their power that is why somebody like these controlled opposition’s that’s how they come into existence they end up then getting advice and they end up changing positions, because those behind the scenes with the wealth, is able, they are able, to manipulate what they think. The one paying the piper calls the tune and remember.

 

The cure to this the remedy to this when it comes to even all of us here and everyone serving White well being the remedy is whether it is a Donald Trump, or Mark Collett. If these individuals are doing and most pointedly doing not really just saying but doing something that serves White well being well then we like them. And if they are doing something that serves White ill-being then we despise them!

 

That is what matters the spirit of the West and our recapturing of our destiny not human beings. So when the moment Anne Marie Waters you can see how this formula immediately saves us from going wrong it immediately saves our population our brothers and sisters from going the wrong direction if she said well we’re going to restrict this immigration, because we are X, Y, Z, run down the list and then they don’t do that, in fact, they do like Dan was saying that they said well we’re gonna get rid of ten and then they didn’t even do that.

 

Trump said he was going to get rid of all X number the media went crazy and then it would find out that that X number was tiny and then you find out no they actually didn’t give it if anybody it was like seven of the worst gang members in the country is all that got rid of so then, you know. And this is how the formula works and just imagine if we could get it to all of our brothers and sisters then, you know, this person is serving White ill-being now we despise them let’s get on to the great questions from the financial gifts that people are giving.

 

Mark Collett: Dan you have anything to add to Tommy’s nonsense before we do that?

 

Iconoclast: Well just one little thing here’s a thing with Tommy Robinson, Anne Marie Waters people like that especially Tommy Robinson. I’m not gonna deny that he’s done good work in the past right I’m just not, because I used to follow him like a lot of people in the chat tonight I would imagine we all go through that journey.

 

But here’s the thing. Every time I see him on a stream these days he’s just talk and shop about his court cases and I’ve never once heard a solution from him about the thing that he cares about the most which is Islam and the Muslim population in Britain.

 

Maybe I’ve missed a few but I would like to know what Tommy Robinson’s solutions are to solve the Muslim issue in Britain? Because if we can go by the responses that you and people like you and I have received Mark on the issue of repatriation, for example, then it doesn’t look like they’re willing to even go for that.

 

So I mean, what’s the goal here? To convince the millions of Muslims in Britain to let go and abandon everything that makes them who they are? Everything that they care about and adopt some baseless, hollow, British values? You know, that nobody can even define, by the way.

 

What’s the goal here? What’s the plan? And as soon as you ask that very simple question of these people and you realize that they’ve got nothing, then you go searching for solutions yourself, which is why we’re all here tonight. So that’s all I would like to say about that issue right there.

 

[70:04]

 

Mark Collett: Okay let’s do some of these chats. And some of these chats are relating to the Colin Robertson, aka, Millennial Woes issue. Vodkar gave 3 US dollars and said:

 

“Can we have a statement on the Colin Robertson situation please?”

 

I don’t know if people are aware of this. But there are very, very iffy photos going around the internet that Colin sent to somebody that purportedly show parts of his body. Those are not parts of his body! They are actually just they are a joke. That is not him. He was winding somebody up. So I’ve got to say that does not constitute a genuine case against him. So people are now muddying the waters and there are numerous things floating about that one I believe is absolutely false! I think he would verify that.:

 

JP gave ten dollars and says:

 

“Love the show! Keep doing God’s work.”

 

Thank you very much. JC Stalin gave ten US dollars and said:

 

“Hail Mark, Jason, and the Iconoclast! They will not silence us!”

 

Thank you. Picking Gaz1972 gave five pounds:

 

“Contribution for your great work.”

 

Thank you very much. Celtic Advocate gave three pounds. Thank you very much. And this is for Dan:

 

“I watched my first Iconoclast video right after my first and hopefully last trip to Birmingham in 2018. Instant red pill! If any of you could choose a Civnat to debate who would it be and why?”

 

We’ll start with you Dan

 

Iconoclast: Well I think the thing would have to be Anne Marie Waters, at this point, wouldn’t it? I mean, I don’t have any beef with anyone else really. No one else has called me out to my knowledge. And I certainly don’t get involved in this sort of stuff too often.

 

But yeah, it will be her because, you know, we do have prior together, and she did call me out. And I guess that’s the way to go. And I guess just to, in relation to that guy’s comment there about Birmingham. I think a lot of people are red pilled through personal experience. And it’s not through watching YouTube videos, or reading a book. I mean, they help, of course, they help people along.

 

But I mean, I’ve mentioned this lots of times. When I went to Paris, when I was a younger man and saw the demographic situation of Paris, and just felt this overall feeling of dread and sadness and loss! That’s what really pushed me towards where I am now. So yeah, I sympathize with the guy. And I’m glad that he’s found this scene and I hope he’s always doing well.

 

Mark Collett: Jason if you could debate anyone who would it be?

 

No White Guilt: Any abstractionist! We’re talking about abstractions, I will happily debate, or humiliate any single one that would like to step forward. Because there are a few things that are more entertaining for me than watching an abstractionist coil themselves up into many knots, and begin to cry profusely! What other questions do we have brother?

 

Mark Collett: We haven’t heard who I would debate yet! If I was debating anyone, I think I’ll choose Tommy Robinson. Maybe, because he’s the biggest of those on the Civnat scene. So I think I’d like to take on the biggest! But he’s also possibly one of the least intelligent. So, it would almost be like the biggest fight ever, but also the easiest! You would get a double bonus wouldn’t you? You’d get the most [word unclear] but I wouldn’t have too much to [word unclear] during the night. So it would almost be like facing the champ, but also being carried at the same time. Quite an interesting play off there.

 

No White Guilt: He would be the anti-final boss! That you would have to [word unclear]

 

Mark Collett: Yeah be like the final boss of Zelda. But then far weaker than the first enemy and be like, what? He’s weaker than a regular slime? This is absurd! I could have done him with my wooden sword! This is ridiculous! Yeah, I think it would bea, … It would be somewhat of an anticlimactic event in terms of an intellectual workout! But nonetheless, very much amusing for everyone in the chat today.

 

Grant Holtz gave three US dollars.:

 

“Can you respond to Devon Tracey hit piece. Probably sit down with him on a stream. He’s a good content maker.”

 

Devon Tracey, he’s all upset with me, because naughty, naughty, Ethan Ralph, invited me on the kill stream and slyly set us up for a debate without either was knowing. Devon got all upset, because I spanked him, when I debated him about a certain historical occurrence. And has never let go of the fact since then. I can’t believe, years later he’s still sore about it. But, you know, some people just can’t let go of anything.

 

Ryan Four gave 5 pounds. Thank you very much. And he said:

 

“Hi Mark. I hope you enjoy my impressions of a PWR episode that was sent to you last week on Telegram. Thanks for everything you do. I’m looking forward to attending the next PA conference. Last one was fantastic!”

 

Yes Ryan, I did enjoy it! Multiple people sent me your impression of me. I just didn’t realize I was so slow and annoying when I spoke. So I’m gonna try to do some vocal coaching to escape these mockeries of me that seems to be going around Telegram.

 

[75:15]

 

One five, six viewer gave three pounds:

 

“Cryptocurrency system using body activity data Microsoft Paint and who slash 2020 slash zero six zero six zero six human body activated associate activity associate with the tasks provided by a user may be used in mining a process of cryptocurrency.”

 

Well, thank you for that people are free to investigate that. Sirup it gave five pounds. Thank you very much. And he said:

 

“The anime avatars on Twitter want to know if Mark will be playing Final Fantasy 7 remake, or if you’ll disavow it for being too modern?”

 

Well I’m gonna ruin everyone’s night tonight. I never played the original Final Fantasy this 7 I don’t like JRPGs particularly they’re too slow. I much prefer action RPGs and things that you actually need a little bit of a reaction speed and timing for however I do have the switch conversion of Final Fantasy 7 and Final Fantasy 7 built into the PlayStation Classic Mini which I got boxed and knew for $29.99. And although is a bit of a disappointment at that price you can’t say no. And I did load it with a hundred extra games. So I was very happy with it.

 

But I still haven’t played Final Fantasy 7 on it, so I don’t know. But modern remakes especially that one remake I certainly wouldn’t be playing but it’s any half again. So I certainly wouldn’t be buying a remake that left out the whole second part of the story. That would be rather annoying if I was going to be playing any remake I would be playing Resident Evil 3 remake. However, although I got a free copy the CD key still hasn’t been delivered so, rather annoyed about that.

 

JC Stalin gave 10 US dollars and said:

 

“We must be professional and aboveboard in all things if we are to grow.”

 

Agreed. Thank you very much.

 

Cincin commander gave five pounds:

 

“Is the animosity and malice directly towards PA in yourself borne of jealousy purely, because PA could achieve something they have never even come close to achieving and done it in the right way?”

 

Oh okay let’s we can all discuss this. But I think a lot of the jealousy and malice towards PA is twofold. I think. Firstly, we’re building something that threatens people. We’re building something that’s genuinely radical and smart and professional. And that threatens people.

 

But we threaten people in another way. We threaten people in another way. And it’s not what you think. People often say you’re threatening them Mark, because people fear they’ll lose donations to you. People fear that they’ll lose their money supplies, because people donate to PA instead. And that’s actually false, because we don’t have a donation button on our website. So you can’t donate to us.

 

But they fear that more than they fear us taking their donations. Let me explain. There are many groups out there who want to charge you for everything and I mean, everything! They want to charge you a quarter of a million for a documentary! They want to charge you a hundred and fifty thousand for court costs! They want to charge you too and a half three, four, five thousand for a new website! They want to charge you huge amounts of money for monthly running costs! We don’t! And that scares them more than if we were grifting.

 

You see if we were grifting as well it would annoy them that we would potentially take some of their donations. But we would still be keeping up the facade that the grift was necessary. We would still be keeping up the lie that hundreds and hundreds of thousands of pounds were needed to make hour-long documentaries that go on YouTube. That hundreds and hundreds of thousands of pounds were needed for court costs which aren’t even necessary.

 

But the fact we don’t ask for donations annoys them even more. The fact we’re doing this for free the fact we can produce the best documentary nationalisms ever produced “We Were Never Asked” and do it for nothing. Well a fraction of the cost to any of these other documentaries have been made for scares them.

 

Because if we can produce “We Were Never Asked” for less than 500 pounds and a little bit of hard work, but they’re saying they need quarter-of-a-million, that hurts them a lot more! Because it doesn’t just take a little bit of the grift away from them, it proves without a shadow of a doubt that the grift is, in fact, a grift! And that it’s all just a show and it’s a scam!

 

And that’s why they really hate us, because we’re doing what they do, we’re doing it better, and we’re doing it without rinsing people with constant donation, begging letters, constant scams, constant huge fundraising drives, for things that shouldn’t cost that. And I think that’s why they fear is. Why do you think they fear us Dan?

 

Iconoclast: I think you raise a good point they’re actually. I look at this from more of a community standpoint, because you look at For Britain, for example, and there’s no real community there. I don’t know of any real [80:01] YouTube channels that are affiliated with For Britain that kind of sing their praises and promote them.

 

Yet you look at I mean, other than that guy he’s not YouTube channel but the guy that wrote that article for the For Britain website something Campbell I can remember his name, you know, an article which was ridiculous where at the bottom he said that maybe For Britain should expose Patriotic Alternative to organisations like Hope Not Hate to show that they are the real fascists and we aren’t as bad as they say we are! You know, this pathetic capitulation this:

 

“Please don’t say nasty things about us anymore see we’re the good guys?”

 

Other than people like that I don’t see a community around that party. Completely opposite in the PA movement, because we have well you can count how many channels and people are involved with PA.

 

I’ve been very public about my support for you guys, and Dangerfield, On the Offensive, all these other guys that I hung around with Morgoth. We’ve got a lot of people and there is a genuine community here. And you hold conferences people get together they meet each other in real life. They go out for dinner. They go on camping trips. That’s the whole thing.

 

And I think it is this idea of authenticity that they don’t like, because they can’t really project that, they can’t replicate that. And that’s a very dangerous thing and it makes us stronger. That’s what I think that’s the way I look at it.

 

No White Guilt: I’ll just jump in there Mark. Yeah the when these people are come out the person who was super chatting is absolutely correct. This is a matter of Revelation and you all this is what we can learn a lot about an individual by what they say and what they do, more so than even what they are adducing, in what they are saying. So when somebody steps forward and they say well PA, X, Y, Z, all these negative things about PA we can then look at what that criticism is and what the objective of the criticism is.

 

What the outcome of the criticism would be if it were effective and then correctly conclude what the person who is making the criticism is after. And that is what we can learn about individuals who make such criticisms and deduce such things of Patriotic Alternative, at least, at this point, in history.

 

And that is that these individuals are making these criticisms, because they don’t put the well-being of our people first. They put the well-being of themselves first. These people are revealing that they are egoists. If they see a current that is growing and in achieving for our people they would support that even if they were running something perhaps that they say let’s say they’re right, or wrong, or whatever it might be they think would work better for our people, they would still nonetheless support something that was healthful that was salubrious for our people and that was succeeding and growing they would still support that, because their objective would be the same as the objective of that entity.

 

When they criticize in this way they’re revealing to you that they are just miscreants, that they are opportunists that their criticisms are spurious.

 

And we should look for this and I’ll pass it right back to Mark for the next fantastic question, or statement.

 

We should look and be ready for these Unholy Confederations of those who are abstractionists, of those who are ostensibly with us for White well-being and those who are notably anti-White, because those individuals, those egoists, those miscreants, will unite themselves quite readily with anti-Whites to take down those who are actually serving White well being. Back to your brother.

 

Mark Collett: The next chat is Jim Tomonomari gave 10 US dollars and said:

 

“White people are going to be a plurality, not a minority in 2045. There will be no racial majority in the US. Same thing for Canada. Did you hear Noah Smith from Bloomberg saying that the borders can be closed, because enough people are inside the US already and a White plurality future is sealed?”

 

I didn’t hear him say that. I have to look it up. I don’t know if you guys have heard that, but I’ve got a slightly different. I think you’ve said it’s a plurality but I believe that if no group is above 50% then they’re all minorities. The same with the government. You can have, you need a majority in parliament to form a government. But if there is no actual majority party that holds 50 percent then you have a government made up of a minority coalition. So I believe that Whites will be a minority.

 

But there’ll be one of several minorities and they just won’t be a majority, or one group that forms a majority. However, if you looked at the non-White population, the non-White population is often London together and would be seen as a majority in itself. But I haven’t seen Noah Smith saying that.

 

But I can imagine that many people many anti-Whites in the US [85:00] would be very happy wouldn’t really care about closing the borders, once White people were a minority, because their jobs being done. Have you guys heard anything about this?

 

Iconoclast: No I’ll let Jason take this, because I haven’t.

 

No White Guilt: I haven’t. But I’ll just add as an addendum to what you just said that for the commenter is this. That never break down the other peoples of man into separate groups.

 

That (((one group))) that has no power, is very small, except they have all the power in the world. They break the world down into two groups. Their group and everyone else. That is exactly the way that we need to behave, because that is the most intelligent way to behave for the well-being of your community. So, once we fall to a number that is below the totality of the non-Whites, then indeed we are the minority. I pass it back.

 

Mark Collett: Okay the next superchat is from Shenzhen come anima gave five pounds. Thank you very much:

 

“Rico did nineteen repayment tax the UK we us should toss up how much that comes to and then send that bill to the People’s Republic of China, HMRC isn’t getting a penny off me this wasn’t our fault!”

 

I agree.

 

Blunderbuss gave 25 US dollars and said:

 

“Could you cheer me up by ripping on the alt light for a minute?”

 

I think we’ve done that for more than a minute. Thank you for the very generous donation, but we probably spent at least half the show doing that.

 

[86:19]

 

Mark Collett: Joey Joe gave five pounds and said:

 

“Can you please tell us what the allegations are without dancing around the topic, so we know what’s true and what’s a rumor? The people deserve to know who they’re supporting and funding. Thank you.”

 

Well several people in the chat and some people have messaged me saying that I’ve danced around the allegations. The specific allegation relating to the lady that I spoke of earlier was an allegation of a severe, sexual impropriety. And I have been presented with evidence that is clear-cut! I have been presented with evidence that is clear-cut! That evidence was also being presented to Laura Towler. It is also being presented to Dionne Muller. Both Laura and Dionne, independently of me, came to the same conclusion about that evidence.

 

Since then both Dan, and Jason, have also been privy to some of this evidence. This isn’t something that we have taken lightly. I know people in the chat, and I know people in the wider community have loyalty to Millennial Woes. But this is not a matter of something that has been taken lightly. This is a matter that has been taken with the utmost seriousness. And there has been a wealth of evidence around this particular case that has been reviewed by numerous people. And a decision was not made by one person, nor was it made lightly!

 

And people are saying:

 

“Did anybody speak to Colin about this?”

 

Yes! People have done. This hasn’t been made in isolation. This is something that has been looked at by multiple people, not just myself. And anybody that thinks that this is some overblown thing, or a witch-hunt, I can assure you it was taken, … Every decision and every action in this case has been dealt with, in the most professional way possible. And dealt with a level of seriousness that I have never really seen before in this movement.

 

And we have attempted to have been as open and transparent as possible, as I have been all night. Nothing has been hidden. And after reviewing that evidence, we came to our conclusions. And yesterday, Millennial Woes published his statement about his future. And that is, as I said, we then have followed that up by saying that he wouldn’t have been invited any further to our events.

 

And I think that is being as candid as I can be, because I also have to take into account the person who has made the allegations. I have to take into account the people who have reviewed the evidence. And I have to be as honest with you as I can, without doing something that might get anyone who essentially is completely innocent, but has reviewed this evidence, into a position that they don’t want to be in. So, it’s very, very awkward. But I think I’ve answered that.

 

If any wants to add anything to this, either of you two, please feel free.

 

Iconoclast: No I would just repeat what I said earlier. I think you’ve made the decision, you’ve seen the evidence. It’s, you know, it’s up to you really. And you wouldn’t take this decision lightly. It’s not a knee-jerk, right? But that’s all I’m gonna say. I don’t really get involved an interpersonal, …

 

Mark Collett: If anyone that’s saying:

 

“Please make the evidence, please put the evidence out here!”

 

There’s no evidence, there’s no this, there’s no that.”

 

It is not down to me to make that evidence public. That is not down to me! That is down to the individual involved, and it is also down to that individual whether this information ever goes to the police, or if a police complaint is made.

 

No White Guilt: Let me just say, there are also some legal issues. So we need to keep in mind that there could potentially be legal issues and there’s certain things that you’re not actually convicted of a crime in Western civilization, until you are convicted of the crime. We can very easily condemn behavior. And there was no light decision here, and so we can decide who, what kind of behavior is acceptable, what kind of behavior is desirable. And then what kind of individuals whether, you know, engaging in behavior, or not, we are going to have around in our community. And legal issues are a serious consideration.

 

And anyone who’s saying, demanding evidence, or something, they’re not giving I guess, … You know, supposedly these people are concerned about Woes and his welfare, and his well-being.

 

Well if you are concerned about these things ostensibly, then you most certainly don’t want more coming out into the community, to the public, so that this could be used potentially against whether right, or wrong, whether real, or farce, could be used against him. To destroy his character. To be used against him by anti-Whites in their media. To be used against him potentially, a rumor stirred up environment, to be used against him in a court of law.

 

If he is going to ever be charged for anything, then the right thing in that scenario is to have an impartial jury, an impartial community, to make that decision. And you would not be serving his interests by demanding some sort of impartiality by the release of the information. So that’s what I would say for that.

 

Mark Collett: Yes thank you. We’ll move on.

 

[92:45]

 

Gintama Minari gave twenty US dollars:

 

“The people organizations behind mass migration in the West Matt Katz Noah Smith migration policy institute to pushing for it in Asia. Mass migration isn’t popular anywhere. Just look at the anti-migrant riots in South Africa last year and capitalists are behind it. They have names and videos of their hands, because they.”

 

Agreed. Thank you for generous donation.

 

The Thin Red Line gave $5 and said:

 

“Good show as usual. I hope the allegations about Woes are false.”

 

I think we’ve covered that now to some degree. And as I said, if people are unhappy with anything I’ve said it was not a decision made by me alone. And it was not a decision made based on allegations but based on a wealth of evidence. And that is something people must remember.

 

David Marcus gave 20 US dollars:

 

“Full sail.”

 

Thank you very much:

 

“Full sail up and let the wind from our peoples enemies perilous as we speed ahead.”

 

Thank you.

 

Mina Foe gave five pounds and gave a thumbs up. Thank you very much.

 

Vodka gave three US dollars and said:

 

“Mark I know you covered most of the Woes situation, but does it end here, or is he going to face legal action? I don’t know exactly what he’s accused of doing, or accused of doing just asking.”

 

Whether any of the allegations levelled at him are followed with legal action is up to the individuals who have made the allegations. And as I say, in the weeks and months ahead, I’m sure more information will come out. But it is not my job, or my right, to press ahead with any of that when people may be pursuing legal matters over this. It is very, it is serious, I can say that though. It is serious.
Becky Key gave three US dollars:

 

“Mark what is your favorite Zelda game?”

 

I love Ocarina of Time! I have three favorite Zelda game I love. A link to the past on the Super Nintendo. I absolutely adore Ocarina of Time. But I also really like Breath of the Wild. So there’s a bit of diversity! Three very different games. Three Zelda games, but all magnificent and possibly one the only times you’ll hear me praising Kurt.

 

Serina JB gave five pounds:

 

“In the u.s Mayor de Blasio made specific reference [95:01] to the Jayish community to obey the distancing rule. I noticed the individualist Dave Rubin immediately jumped in to defend his own people. Do they not see his hypocrisy?”

 

Well, we know they don’t! The thing is, it is amazing isn’t it that this has happened, because we sort of briefly mentioned it earlier on the show and Dave Rubin is one of those really interesting people who is one of (((them))). And obviously we’ve seen all over the Western world that minority communities have absolutely been allowed to violate many of these curfews, or quarantines.

 

And we also see that when it comes to migration, migrants flooding into countries haven’t been subject to screening health checks, or any forms of restrictions. So this is again another hypocrisy. But just as when we see other hypocrises — what we see is certain hypocrisy that favor certain groups. And then what you were and here is Dave Rubin’s tweet for saying this. Dave Rubin said:

 

“You’re an awful human being and for the record, I was ahead of the curve on it also my sister and her family just moved out of what was once the greatest city in the world Mazel Tov.”

 

And he says:

 

“I want to be precise with my language here, de Blasio is a lunatic!”

 

So for simply saying that a certain community must must obey the law people are screaming Nazi! Makes you wonder what books de Blasio has been reading. [loud laughter] But again of ticket oh there anyone else have takes on that?

 

Iconoclast: Well I just on the subject of minority groups ignoring the social distancing. There’s a reason why I think it was 25 percent of UK deaths are from the Muslim community. It’s no surprise there. They have large families big households, they pray in large groups I mean, it’s just and you see videos online of them walking down the street in huge groups as well and it’s yeah de Blasio I haven’t seen this tweet but he’s pointing out a fact, because I did see that video from New York and it’s undeniable. And it’s just well if that makes him an anti-semite then what can’t you say, what can you say, rather?

 

Mark Collett: I think you commented on this earlier Jason. So we’ll move on swiftly.

 

Grant Holt gave three Dollars and said:

 

“I like Dangerfield but it’s difficult to take in seriously for Cambodia. He’s whoring for superchats. He needs to come home to be deemed credible.”

 

You see, this is its a really interesting thing, because I get one group of people who were sort of Dangerfield fans saying:

 

“Dangerfield don’t like Mark! He’s too far right!”

 

And then I get another group of people who say:

 

“Oh Mark! You shouldn’t like Dangerfield. It’s not credible!”

 

And I am torn in two directions and for the credit, for the record, I really like Chris. I get on with him and I realize he’s had a interesting past. But we were a movement of redemption and I believed that Chris has a great future ahead of him. And I believe that nationalism has played an important part in him turning his life around. And I wish him all the best and hope to work with him in the future.

 

Claire gave 20 pounds. Thank you very much and said:

 

“Great stream!”

 

Thank you.

 

Supernova 808 gave three pounds:

 

“Keep up the good work!”

 

And Vodka gave three US dollars and said:

 

“Mark after reading the chat people asking for the evidence. Is her word, versus his word, or if there was more evidence? Last question.”

 

There is more evidence. It is not just a matter of two people’s words. It is not just a matter of one person giving evidence and another person giving evidence. There is concrete evidence that can be viewed and has been viewed by numerous people! I’m making that clear. This is not a witch hunt! Nor would I carry out a witch hunt.

 

And this is a very sensitive issue, and I’m trying to deal with it in the most professional and open way possible.

 

Now onto the questions. Bartley Walsh:

 

“No question. Can the people who keep making statements about Woes despite having no clue about the evidence that was brought to Mark’s stop making huge claims about the situation.”

 

Thank you for that.

 

Connor Chick Meister said:

 

“With April seeing record high numbers of illegal immigrants crossing the channel, are the anti-White globalist using the lockdown to quietly move in more third-world migrants behind our backs?”

 

What do you think Dan?

 

Iconoclast: . I don’t think they would need to do it behind our backs, because they do it in front of us all the time! I mean, it’s not like it’s a secret operation is it? It’s not kept undercover it’s there for everyone to see. So I’m just gonna say no things that continuing on is normal! We’re just outside that’s near it so that’s all I’m gonna say about that.

 

No White Guilt: This is why we love dan! That was fantastic. Go ahead Mark.

 

Mark Collett: The next question is from Super-Happy Pam. I think that’s how it’s [100:00] pronounced is it Russian, or acrylic alphabet in there so I can’t pronounce it. I probably got it wrong and my apologies but thank you for the question. He says:

 

“What are the chances of the Woes situations [word unclear] if so will there be any chance of recovery after this for his reputation, or will it be tarnished after this?”

 

We all make decisions, and sometimes we make the wrong decisions. And even the best people and the people you look up to make bad decisions. And I think anyone who sat with Colin would agree that he’s made some very bad decisions. We have talked about one specific allegation tonight, but numerous other allegations, numerous other photographs, numerous other evidence relating to different things has surfaced. And will continue to surface. Which I don’t wish to see. I don’t wish to see a man’s life ripped to pieces! I don’t wish to see especially I wouldn’t wish to say any innocent man to be torn down. But we make decisions in life and sometimes we make the wrong decision. And as I said, I’m sure people who speak to him will understand. And we have talked about this quite, …

 

No White Guilt: I just, I have to add one one simple thing Mark. This thing is really important. And that is this. That we saw no evidence that would require us to go to law enforcement on behalf of the victimized person. So there are different bars for convicting a person in a court of law and society punishing that individual, and separating from an individual, because of the conduct of that individual.

 

And I will make this as saliently clear as possible. No child was harmed for which we would most certainly, immediately, go to law enforcement! There would be no hesitation! There would be there would be no consultation! We wouldn’t look at each other and say:

 

“Should we XYZ?”

 

Immediately we would phone the law enforcement and protect that child! End of that rumor going around!

 

Mark Collett: Let’s be clear! I must be absolutely clear! The allegation was not a rape, and it wasn’t of any impropriety with people who are underage. That is clear, you know, this isn’t a witch hunt. And I don’t want any rumors to spread out. That’s terrible! That’s terrible!

 

I know this is a good question. I would like to just discuss this a little bit with Dan and I’d also like to offer a bit of apology to anyone that I’ve upset with this. Slamarly says:

 

“Hi guys addressing the elephant in the room, how do we address optics, issue of progress as a movement, if there are references to topics, events, books, that the Left and center will rip apart?”

 

This is based on me, because I gave a recommend. I was trying to recommend that people read certain books. On one hand I do apologize, because I shouldn’t have said that. If it’s caused you embarrassment, then that was not my intention! I certainly say things to provoke a reaction. And I certainly say things to provoke people into reading books and to looking into things that the mainstream frown upon.

 

And I am very, very serious with my underlying message that you need to look out side of the box that the establishment has created for you. There are books like “My Awakening”. There are books like “The Secret Behind Communism”. There are books like “The Culture of Critique”, or many books that Greg Johnson has written that are all banned now on Amazon and Barnes & Noble and all other major book publishers.

 

Now when I said read a certain book which I’m not going to mention again I wasn’t doing it to embarrass, or to enrage but I was doing this, because I genuinely believed that as a movement if we constrain ourselves within certain boxes created for us by the establishment, by the center right, by the Civnats we will never grow we will never understand the true nature of the struggle that we’re engaged in.

 

For example, if I say to you when people say. What do you say we should all read and I say oh “The Strange Death of Europe” by Douglas Murray! And then when you read it and you go to Douglas Murray he says:

 

“Oh yes. But there’s no conspiracy. There’s no White genocide. These people are conspiracy theorists!”

 

If I say to you go and read Locke, or go and read the basis, books about the fundamental basis of capitalism, or classic liberalism, that’s all well inside the establishments playpen. That’s inside the dichotomy laid out for you on the table.

 

And what I try to do and sometimes I get this wrong is to say things that will provoke people to go outside of what is acceptable to read books that will [105:00] genuinely make you think. Try reading Arthur Kemp’s “March of the Titans”. That is another controversial book history of the White race. It’s magnificent.

 

Try reading “The Secret Behind Communism”. I gave a copy of that to James Goddard.

 

Try reading Greg Johnson’s books. They are very good books.

 

And as I said, I do believe we have to tread carefully in some times I put my foot in my mouth and can get a little bit too exuberant. But whatever I say I am going to be called certain things. And sometimes I think well if I’m going to be called all those things then I should at least be allowed a little leeway to promote books, or ideas, or themes, that are outside of the mainstream. That I believe people may take some insight, or knowledge from. Because, and this is a very difficult path to walk but as I’ve said I made people uncomfortable by pushing things like that maybe I took it too far. And that wasn’t my intention.

 

And on a serious note if people asked them what other books, or what other authors I would look towards promoting, JR Tolkien. Read the Lord of the Rings. I used to love Roald Dahl as a child. And he’s somebody who’s been accused of all kinds of ills! Read the complete works of Shakespeare. I’m not saying [word unclear] read “The Fall of Western Man”, but when I say read Shakespeare, I don’t mean read Shakespeare, because I’m trying to be edgy. I mean, read Shakespeare, because some of the greatest films that we all adore are so heavily influenced by plots and themes written hundreds of years ago by William Shakespeare. It’s quite unreal.

 

But yes if people don’t want to be challenged, then I’m sorry that I challenged you in this way. If people think I’ve given a massive optics boost to our enemy, then I apologize.

 

However, I think they would have called me the “n” word regardless of my comment. And one thing I’ll say is a guy that has attacked me about this, I believe, is Sargon of Akkad. Now Sargon of Akkad used the other “n” word. And one thing you won’t get me doing, one thing I’ll never do, I sometimes make mistakes, but when I suggest reading a book, or suggest investigating something I suggest those things on an intellectual level, because I want you to learn something, I want to push people outside the boundaries set by the establishment.

 

I will never use racial slurs like Sargon did for cheap laughs! I will never pin my colors to a stupid joke, or do something to be ironical to curry favor on some edgy Americans stream. If I say something I do it with the best intent and I’m trying to make a serious point. And if I made that serious point in a clumsy manner and I have upset you in any way that was not my intention.

 

And after speaking to others I realize I did that. Chris Dangerfield spoke to me. Dan spoke to me, and several other people spoke to me and I realized that I certainly didn’t do something they intended to do. And whilst I intended to create genuine debate and a bit of insightful commentary maybe that was what happened. Dan you’ve admonished me for this, feel free to do so publicly now.

 

Iconoclast: Well you and I had a long phone conversation last week didn’t we? Where we ironed a lot of this stuff out. And, you know, like I said at the beginning of this stream Mark to everyone in the chat and to everyone watching, you are in a very difficult position. You are getting as you said, dragged in every direction there is to be dragged in. And yeah I mean, here’s the thing this movement is a big movement. It’s got lots of people in from lots of different stripes. And some people are interested in various topics and other people are more interested in policy proposals and things like that.

 

Me personally I was looking at it from not particularly as a threat from the mainstream media, because everyone knows they’re going to attack us no matter what. They’re gonna call us every name under the sun.

 

And Mark the term you used to me over the phone is, you’re gonna act like a “lightning rod” for this criticism and these insults from the media. So that’s not what people were concerned about. It was just the concern of trying to get new people on board, people who are concerned about the direction of the country, people who are disillusioned with politics who are politically homeless. And we want to make a welcoming atmosphere for those people to join. And then, you know, over time they will find their own way they’ll find their footing like everyone in this movement does. That’s where it came from.

 

I don’t see it as any sort of infighting, or any sort of big deal anymore really [110:01]. In fact, Mark, since we had our conversation last week over the phone I have come around to your perspective a lot more. And I think we’re not going to see eye to eye on it completely, but do respect the level of authenticity and honesty that we’re trying to get out here in this movement.

 

And people can take it, or leave it, as far as I’m concerned. I’m here. I support PA! I support you, and I’m not going anywhere. So if people can take my recommendation for anything then that will be it. And they’re my general thoughts on the matter.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you for the kind words. And I’ve got to say as well, I have been placed in a position of responsibility, and a position of authority. And I thank everyone who’s placed their trust in me. But I do also know that I do have baggage.

 

And I know that one day, undoubtedly, somebody will come along who is better than me at all the things that I’m good and doesn’t have the baggage I have. And when that person does come along, you know, I will welcome them. And I will look forward to watching them take the movement to heights that I wasn’t able to.

 

And I’m not here to hold on to something, or hold something back. I’m here to be that guy who takes the flag. I’m here to be at the front and take all of the firepower that our enemies throw at us, because I’m used to it, and I’m thick-skinned! And the attacks that I take on a daily basis from all sides would probably break most people.

 

But to me it’s almost water off a duck’s back, at this point. But I do that and I aim to shield the movement by doing that. And by doing that I think I draw a lot of criticism away from others. Because while everyone’s shooting me down it means a lot of my friends get to act with almost immunity, because they’re not in the crosshairs! So there always is some method in what people may perceive to be madness.

 

But we have two superchats here. Roydant give twenty five US dollars. Thank you very much! He said:

 

“There are situations in life where you just need to trust that the leaders of the movement are doing the right thing. This is such a moment. If Mark gives his word on this, it is the truth for me.”

 

Well, thank you very much. But don’t take my word on it. Please, if you need to speak to anyone else contact Dionne Miller, or contact Laur Towler as well.

 

Altfit gave ten pounds. He said:

 

“A pro-White party has no chance of getting into power in the current UK systems. Invaders continue to expand into White areas. We will see further hardening of attitudes. And later on I envisage racially designated habitation zones. Is this the only chance we could have to preserve our race?”

 

We have every chance to preserve our people. And we have to have a multi-pronged attack at doing so. That means using the electoral process when necessary. It means setting up homeschooling groups. It means civil rights groups. It means legal challenges against anti-White racist legislation.

 

To make a military analogy, any military that confines itself to one single sphere of warfare, or one single method of attack, will never fail [succeed].

 

A successful military force has multiple different tactics, multiple different armaments, multiple different forces. They have an army, a navy, and air force. They have Special Forces units. And they do that, because a war isn’t just won in one way. And we are fighting a war for our survival. And part of that battle will no doubt be through the electoral mechanism.

 

Part of it will be in other ways. Part of it will be cultural. Part of it will be community-based. And I will not write off people doing fitness groups. I won’t write off people doing book clubs. It’s all part of the role.

 

So why wouldn’t electioneering being as well? And whilst any avenue is open to us, we should use it while it’s open to us! That’s if it’s ever open to us. That is if it is ever open to us, because at the moment they are refusing to allow PA to become a party. Because the system fears us so much, they won’t let us become a party! You know, if we were such a joke, if I was such a joke, and such an outsider, and no one was gonna vote for us, and no one would ever vote for a party with a madman like me in charge, then why won’t they let’s stand in elections? [chuckling] That’s a good question I think!

 

And final, Uncle Bertie gave 25 US dollars and said:

 

“Thank you Mark for being a man of honour and worthy of my trust.”

 

Thank you very much.

 

And thank you to everyone who was donated so generously tonight. Which just about brings us, … Oh we’ve got one last question but I’m just answer this quickly. It’s from Its Okay to be a Nashi, said:

 

“Did any of you see see the Simon Harris stream last night with Gavin Boby? He says that Denmark has similar policies to PA, repatriation it hasn’t worked too well. Would you chat to Gavin Boby?”

 

Gavin, we have spoken, you know, we have spoken. I want you on the show. We’re gonna make it happen — Gavin Boby on PWR very soon! Great man! Obviously people have differences in the movement, but ironing out our differences and chatting politely is what we need to do.

 

So that about brings us the end of show. Do you have any last comments before we give your outro, Dan? Is there anything else you wish to say?

 

Iconoclast: Well I would just like to say that despite the negative atmosphere perhaps, of today, that it’s always a pleasure to speak to you Mark and Jason. And overall, when I look at this movements, like I said, I do see a movement of authenticity. We’re gonna have our differences within the movement with individuals, of course, we may make mistakes in the future. I mean, that’s just the natural course of things.

 

This is a new group, we’re trying to do, well we’re trying to do everything aren’t we? We’re trying to bring people together under one banner, under shared goals and targets, for the sort of country that we want to live in. The future we want to leave for our children.

 

And there’s gonna be conflict along the way. But I see these as positive things, because it’s necessary, isn’t it? We’re gonna get attacked by various people. But again you’ve got a shoulder that! You’ve got to take it on the chin and believe in what you’re doing! And get on with what you’re doing and not be distracted and thrown off course by what other people think of you.

 

And again, I mean, it’s like you said to me over the phone Mark, this lockdown kind of has people going a bit stir-crazy. People are getting triggered, shall I say, over very minor things. And it’s not healthy for everyone. The sooner this is over the better. And we can get back to doing what we were doing before.

 

And all I will say is I’m very optimistic about this movement, despite the little differences that we all have. And I can’t wait to see where we go in the future. And again thank you for having me on Mark. I hope to do it again with you very soon.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you very much would you like to give it just a shout-out quickly for your YouTube channel and everything, before you go?

 

Iconoclast: Oh yeah, I mean, just search for Iconoclast on YouTube you’ll be able to find it. And then all my links under my videos. And I would suggest that you sign up to Telegram and follow me there, because I’m having so much fun on that damn thing! It’s a great social media platform. It’s my go to platform now, so you’ll find the link to that under my videos. And I’ll see you there.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you. We have one last superchat from Jim Timonary, three US dollars. Thank you:

 

“Jason the rest of humanity don’t think in binary terms like that. Even the most supremacist people on earth, don’t view all goyim as the same. They view Whites needing to be made stateless. I think they…”

 

I think that he’s saying that they think we need to be made stateless. Sorry that’s, … I think it’s a typo there. But thank you very much for the super chat. And Jason, give yourself a little outro my friend. Tell us who’s on tap and when it starts.

 

No White Guilt: Well Tap, we’re not sure who’s on yet. But it’s gonna be somebody totally amazing. I can assure you. And it’ll be on Saturday I think, perhaps on Friday. We’ll see though. And I hope to see you all there. I do want to say that just on the back of Dan’s words here that there’s a flip side to what happened these past few days, that came to light and what we had to address. And that flip side is something that although the lesson, and lessons in life are often learned this way, they are most difficult. Sometimes they are extraordinarily painful.

 

And for everyone involved there’s a lesson for Woes, there’s a lesson for us. There’s a lesson for those at the leadership and PA.

 

And I think ladies and gentlemen we can say that beyond a shadow of a doubt, that fate tested us in this, and that we passed that test.

 

I want to thank Dan for his great service to White will being. And if we can let’s get him a round of raucous emojis, applauds, and all! Thank you very much for your service to White well my dear friend! And I will pass it back to Mark.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you by much. So thank you to Dan. Thank you to Jason, as always. And tonight if you want more nationalism which I’m sure you do, we have a great stream with Unwashed. I believe he’s on Dlive. And I’ve got DLive channel so look me up there too! He is on with Calamity tonight, at 9 p.m.

 

So if you want more nationalism, scoot over there now! Get your bums over there, because he’s starting very soon.

 

I would like to thank everybody who has donated so generously. Very, very kind. And if anyone wants to donate after the show please do so via Bitcoin. You can find the address in the description of the show.

 

I would like to say I’ll be back on Friday with Laura Towler. We will be doing a special stream about positive plans and other positive initiatives that we are starting with PA. That is to be a positive stream. It is to focus on [120:01] positive things. And it is to basically draw a line under many of the events we’ve discussed tonight, and move forward in a positive way, because that is what we need to do.

 

We have discussed everything we need to tonight. And I don’t wish to revisit this again!

 

So thank you for bearing with me and thank you for discussing this with me at length.

 

Finally, before we wrap up, I do want to say thank you to everyone who has been here, and everyone who was listened, and everyone who’s taken the time to support the movement. And I do think this has been a difficult time for our people.

 

There’s been a lot of interesting developments since this lockdown started. And this lockdown hasn’t helped people, hasn’t helped their mental state.

 

But we will get through this! We will come out the other side. We will start organizing as soon as we do. And we will become far, far stronger. And we will build a real life network. And that will be happening as soon as this lockdown ends.

 

That just leaves me to say thank you again Dan. Thank you again Jason. Thank you to everyone who donated and, of course, thank you to everyone who’s tuned in. This community is the reason that people like myself, Jason, and Dan, are here. The strength we gained from this community is immense. I love you all! Thank you so much for the support. Stay safe! I hope you have a wonderful evening, and I will see you on Friday.

 

Thank you very much. Good night and head over to see Unwashed on DLive with Calamity. Thank you.

 

[121:34]

 

 

END

 

 

============================================

 

See Also

Laura Towler – We Were Never Asked – Oct 24, 2019 — Transcript

 

 

============================================

 

PDF Notes

* Total words = 20,780

* Total images = 3

* Total A4 pages = xx

Click to download a PDF of this post (x.x MB):

(Available later)

 

Version History

 

Version 4:

 

Version 3:

 

Version 2:

 

Version 1: May 3, 2020 — Published post.

 

]]> https://katana17.com/2020/05/03/patriotic-weekly-review-with-the-iconoclast-apr-29-2020-transcript/feed/ 0 Morgoth’s Review – Hope Not Hate and the State of Play, Feb 2019 — TRANSCRIPT https://katana17.com/2019/02/25/morgoths-review-hope-not-hate-and-the-state-of-play-feb-2019-transcript/ https://katana17.com/2019/02/25/morgoths-review-hope-not-hate-and-the-state-of-play-feb-2019-transcript/#comments Mon, 25 Feb 2019 12:14:00 +0000 https://katana17.com/wp/?p=20326 Continue reading →]]>  

[In this video, Morgoth, who runs the blog, Morgoth’s Review, discusses the annual “Report” produced by the Orwellian named organization “Hope Not Hate”, that engages in hatred towards British people who are resisting the destruction of their land by organized jewry through their engineered invasion of non-Whites, and other subversive means.

 

Morgoth points out the waning power of the “gas lighting” efforts of such organizations as “Hate Not Hope”, as more and more everyday people are waking up to the manufactured nature of the “politically correct” culture that has been imposed upon us.

 

The internet and its blogs, such as “Morgoth’s Review”, have enabled those people to see through the bullshit that front organizations for the globalist (((elite))) pump out, decreasing their brainwashing effectiveness. This diminishing cultural hegemony Morgoth argues will see the increased use of brute State power:

 

“The velvet glove will slip, and the rusty knuckle duster will be revealed!”

 

— KATANA]

 

 

 

 

 

Morgoth’s Review

 

“Hope Not Hate” and

 

the State of Play

 

Feb, 2019

 

Click here for the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv_TBGWOY2I

 

Published on Feb 22, 2019

 

YouTube Description

Buy me a pint here

https://www.subscribestar.com/morgoth…

https://www.patreon.com/Morgoth

Thanks to Theberton for the intro and outro

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUaG…

My Blog

https://morgothsreview.com
Category
Film & Animation
174 Comments

 

TRANSCRIPT

(19:03 mins)

 

[00:00]

 

[music intro]

 

 

MORGOTH’S REVIEW

IDEOLOGY: alt-right/white nationalist

SUMMARY OF 2018

Morgoth’s Review is a racist blog run by the pseudonymous Geordie blogger “Morgoth” which, since its founding in 2014, has become well-read among the British alt-right for its far-right commentary on cultural and political issues. The comments section functions as a far-right discussion board, routinely receiving hundreds of comments on its blogs.

The blog remained active throughout 2018, with roughly 90 posts published during the year. Morgoth established a YouTube channel in January, accruing 4,200 subscribers and 200,000 views throughout the year.

PROSPECTS FOR 2019

The blog will continue to be a significant alt-right platform.

 

 

[00:28]

 

Hello there folks. The one and only Geordie Alt-Right “hate blogger”, as featured in the “Hate not Hope” annual 2019 report. So I thought I’d have a little bit of a look at the report, but I think I’m gonna not get carried away with histrionics and ranting on, and take an objective look at it. Because I read it every year actually, and this is the first time it’s featured me. But it does give you a valuable insight and how the opposition is thinking, and where and what they perceive to be our advantages and disadvantage. Sort of a general state of play. It’s easy to mock it and have a laugh at it, because they’ve got “satanic Nazis” in there, for Christ’s sake! All these groups nobody’s ever heard of.

 

[Add. image] OMG! Save the women, children and jews from the rise of the Satanic Nazi!

 

And but what’s its saying is a report not so much on dissident groups within Britain, but about how the establishment is thinking, and what they’re worried about. And that’s why it’s actually something interesting to read.

 

And so I thought I’d give a something of an objective look at the general situation using this report. Hope not Hate, I mean obviously it’s an organ of the elites and they don’t seem too concerned with ideological purity. And so I’m gonna shelve that here as well, as much as I can. I can’t do it, you know, a hundred percent. But we can get into the basics right from the start, and just sort of to get really down to it, what are they and what do they do?

 

Well if you take your odd visitor who visits it’s website, what you’ll see is pictures and doxes of people who are politically incorrect, basically. And what they’re trying to do is shame them, and get them fired from their jobs.

 

 

Hope Not Hate, if you’re gonna have a meeting about something controversial, Hope Not Hate, will ring up the hotel wherever it is, and try and have the meeting ruined, banned, deplatforming, doxings, that’s what they’re doing. But they don’t actually have any sort of state power. They’re connected to the state, they’re an organ of the globalist establishment, but they don’t actually have any raw power of their own. What they’re doing, and this is going to be key I think in order to understand the state of play here, because the report is riddled with it. And I’m gonna get into it a bit.

 

[Add. image] Woes Flight from the Doxers

 

What they do to attack us is use cultural power. I mean, the idea of doxing being something that people are worried about, or if your name is on the internet and you go to apply for a job you’re not going to get the job. People are gonna think you’re racist and all of this! But all of this is only possible, because of cultural power. So the elites, the media, and the government, the universities, have actually sort of cast this ideological cloud across the West. And Hope Not Hate use that, and it’s morality to enforce what the globalists want. That’s actually what they do, that’s how it works. And so, at the end of the day, it is just about preserving the power of the elites. And so what’s interesting about Hope Not Hate’s report is that they have literally, … In the right on the top of the headline, it’s called “The People vs the Elite?”. And so this is something, I mean, it pops up again, and again, as variations of it throughout the main report. And this is what they’re most concerned about. This going into 2019.

 

 

And to me it speaks of a loss of power, because what Hope Not Hate are trying to do, if you think of it where you’ve got people on the fringes, and the people on the fringes are actually, … Well it’s this is the problem, because the fringes seem to grow! [chuckling].

 

[05:01]

 

The amount of people on the fringes relative to the amount of people in the sort of metropolitan elite cabal, grows exponentially every year! And, in fact, yeah there’s a ton of statistics. So one of them is that 55 percent of people in Britain believe our political system is broken! And the they’ve got a ton of this kind of information. So the general consensus here is that there’s this, hell of a lot of pissed-off people in Britain! And Hope Not Hate are looking to find out why that is, and who is doing that. Because that can only happen if the cultural power of Hope Not Hate, or let’s say the establishment and the elites, is on the wane. And that’s why it’s important not to get too carried away with ideological purity here. Because whatever you think of somebody like Sargon of Akkad, he is actually a problem to them, because he is undermining their position! He is questioning political correctness, and to a massive audience!

 

And what this does, what this has, is to eat away at the cultural power which the elites have. And Hope Not Hate is acutely aware of this and where it’s going to go. Well, or where it could go. And that’s the problem.

 

 

They need to have everything under control, because if the masses let’s just say, they aren’t actually supposed to know that political correctness exists. They’re not supposed to be conscious of it! They’re supposed to think of it as just being the way things are! This is just how you should behave. This is the morality of the times. And this is just doing, and thinking, and saying the right things! And when you’ve got people who are constantly hammering away at this, then more and more people are gonna start and question the pervading orthodoxy. And so, Hope Not Hate is there to make sure they don’t do that! Because eventually, it’ll eat its way back to the elites themselves, to the center of power! And that’s what they don’t want to have happen..

 

What do you want to have happen, is where the vast bulk of the population remains subdued to the globalist morality, the globalist orthodoxy. But there’s always will be fringe elements, and they will be quite easy to contain, and their sphere of influence will be tiny. But mainly, because of the internet, that’s not the case anymore! And the orthodoxy is being, to one degree, or another, shown up, and ridiculed, and exposed!

 

Now, because one person such as, you know, the Katie Hopkins types, there’s a lot of people in there, even in UKIP, and Paul Joseph Watson, they’re all in there, Lauren Southern.

 

 

You can have a discussion they’re not kind of cutting deep enough, but okay, whatever! We are, where we are. And Hope Not Hate are really worried about this, because the power to keep the masses under control is very much on the wane. And, in fact, it’s manifested itself in 2018, with people in their thousands marching on London, which is — if you’re the sort of cosmopolitan cabal who are dumping on the people — the last thing, that’s the last thing you want! And Hope Not Hate says again, and again, is this huge problem!

 

But the problem is, people are going to become conscious of, … Once people become conscious of the political correct orthodoxy itself, then they’re also going to be conscious of what Hope Not Hate are. And what Hope Not Hate do! So then, far from actually being something which is useful to the elites, just from their perspective I would probably defund and abolish Hope Not Hate as fast as possible! Because Hope Not Hate, I mean, they have all of these lines in the report about how the people, and all of these statistics as well, about how the people do no longer trust the elite!

 

[10:00]

 

But the problem is Hope Not Hate are the people who are going to try and destroy people’s lives for not agreeing with the elite! And so, I mean, if just say, you know, if I was a big Goldberg and a bank, and I was funding Hope Not Hate I would be reading this report, and I’d be thinking:

 

“What the hell are we paying you kids for? You are fucking useless!”

 

The situation is just getting worse, and worse! In fact, your very existence sorts of perpetuates the problem, because you are an aggressive, mean, vindictive organization, which is directly connected to the elites!

 

 

I think that’s bad play! I would definitely look to shelve Hope Not Hate itself, if I was one of the elites. But in any case, that’s probably not likely to happen, because then I don’t know how they’re gonna keep us under control! Because the fringes, because of the internet, the fringes are no longer very easy to sort of wall off from the general population.

 

This is, of course, one of the strategies all along has been to use the two. So Hope Not Hate used cultural power, a soft power. That’s really what this is, soft power. But the state, this sort of pincer movement. So, on the one hand you’ve got the cultural power of the media, and Hope Not Hate, and the universities. And then on the other side of the pincer movement, you’ve got brute state force!

 

And what we’ve seen in the last year, you know, somebody says something, he mis-genders one of them people on Twitter, and he’s got the police kicking this door down! That’s not ideal, because then, all that does is then give more of a sense of grievance to the general population. And it’s a sign that the cultural power is on the wane! They can’t hold it anymore through purely meta-political means.

 

 

The idea would be that dissidents are on the one hand crippled and silenced through state power, while at the same time, the fact they are crippled can be explained with cultural power — these are extremists, these are nut jobs! But with cultural power on the wane, they’ve lost the ability to do that, because nobody really believes in the cultural power that much. Well yeah, okay, hold on, they are still a lot of people who do believe in it but it’s very much on the wane! And all you have left with, increasingly, is brute state force, and police kicking people’s doors down for “hate think”! And that’s worse again, because then it adds to the general sense of animosity and grievance within the general population.

 

And Hope Not Hate is trying to point this out, but they couldn’t have actually been more explicit about it, without actually just saying:

 

“People just think we’re bullshit artists! And they’d like to see us gone from the cultural sphere!”

 

Because I mean, they’ve supposedly got 70,000 Twitter followers, but there’s almost no interaction on the account at all. So, and this is important, because in order to have cultural power you’re going to have to present yourself that you are the moderating voice! You are the standard position! The one with all of the arguments. And they don’t do that! They don’t even try to do that, whatsoever!

 

Sargon of Akkad can make a video about, you know, like Muslim extremists, or something like that, something which is non politically correct, and he’ll get a much, much, much bigger response to that. And a reach with that, than anything that the cultural power has, except mainstream television. That’s all they’ve got. And so the idea that Hope Not Hate are standing on the same center ground, is ridiculous! Because to them, the fringes then have come so far in, that the elites and their cultural spheres are beginning to look like the fringe themselves!

 

 

The masses are, if you find a voice, even though I mean, the right to point out, there’s no political leadership whatsoever ideologically. Which is why I’m not gonna get into some sort of purity spiral here. Ideologically, it’s a dog’s breakfast! It’s a complete mess! Because everybody bickers, nobody agrees on anything’s! But, there is this general under tension in the society, and it’s extremely worrying to Hope Not Hate. In fact, this is the whole report, this year, and it’s one of waning cultural power.

 

[15:22]

 

And what we’re going to see, and that won’t come back, either. And people like these, they do understand this, because it’s what the Left did, it’s the long march through the institution’s, gradually changing the morality of the population over time. And they even cite cultural Marxism on their website as being a conspiracy theory. [chuckling] And then, they’ll [chuckling], all right, how did we get where we were then? How did that happen by magic? They are the living embodiment of it! When once they reached a degree of cultural hegemony then it was time to, you know, boot people’s doors down! And once they had that cultural power, well yeah, your face goes up on the website and:

 

“You’re a racist scumbag forever! Your life is destroyed! And let that be a warning of the rest of you bastards!”

 

That’s the general way they look at it. And yet, they’re gonna turn around and say:

 

“Well, that never happened! This is just normal life.”

 

Bullshit! We can all see it! And they’re not very popular for it either.

 

 

So what I think is the real problem, is that they can no longer, … There’s a flow coming from the general mass of what will be the White British, and the cultural and State force is there to try and prevent it, but the cultural side of it, is letting the side down. And what they see is the dissidence, the fringe connecting with the main mass as a hotline! Which is already happening. And a certain, a critical theory now is being directed towards the Left and it’s extremely popular! Much more popular, and edgy, and fun, than anything they have to offer. And I don’t know what they’re gonna do about that, because we’re already gonna see more State force.

 

There’s more, and more, relying on the police, the man in the uniforms coming to arrest people. And that’s, because the cultural power which Hope Not Hate represents, is a dying force. I think soon, they’ll just be not a pincer anymore, but just one sort of left hook, which is the State itself.

 

And the mask will be off! The velvet glove will slip, and the rusty knuckle duster will be revealed!

 

But nevertheless, we’re gonna keep on going, and it’s gonna be fun! And if I make it in there next year [chuckling] all the better, I’ll do another review next year and see where we are! I will say one thing though. These people aren’t working forty hours on the factory! They attack us full-time. So if you like the chip in below, thank you very much!

 

See you later.

 

[18:41]

 

[music]

 

 

 

[19:03]

 

 

END

 

 

============================================

 

 

See Also

 

Millennium Woes with Morgoth on Brexit — TRANSCRIPT

Millennial Woes’ Millenniyule 2017 No. 66 – Morgoth — TRANSCRIPT

Morgoth’s Review – YouTube Hangout 01 – Skeptics and Cucks — TRANSCRIPT

Morgoth’s Review – YouTube Hangout 02 – Merry Holocaustmas — TRANSCRIPT

Morgoth’s Review — Discussing the Government’s Anti-Extremism Agency ”Prevent” With Based British — TRANSCRIPT

Morgoth’s Review — Hate-Reading The Guardian – Hirsch, Critical Theory & Nihilism, Jan 2019 — TRANSCRIPT

Morgoth’s Review — The Psychotic Left, Feb 2019 — TRANSCRIPT

Morgoth’s Review – Fishing For White Pills, Feb 2019 — TRANSCRIPT

Morgoth’s Review – Hope Not Hate and the State of Play, Feb 2019 — TRANSCRIPT

 

============================================

 

 

PDF Notes

* Total words = xx

* Total images = xx

* Total A4 pages = xx

Click to download a PDF of this post (x.x MB):

(Available later)

 

 

Version History

 

Version 4:

 

Version 3: Feb 3, 2020  — Re-uploaded images for katana17.com/wp/ version.

 

Version 2: Feb 26, 2019  — Added 2 images. Updated the See Also links.

 

Version 1: Feb 25, 2019  — Published post.

]]> https://katana17.com/2019/02/25/morgoths-review-hope-not-hate-and-the-state-of-play-feb-2019-transcript/feed/ 25 Andrew Anglin vs Sargon of Akkad – Feb 2018 – Clips — TRANSCRIPT https://katana17.com/2018/02/11/andrew-anglin-vs-sargon-of-akkad-feb-2018-clips-transcript/ https://katana17.com/2018/02/11/andrew-anglin-vs-sargon-of-akkad-feb-2018-clips-transcript/#comments Sun, 11 Feb 2018 13:07:39 +0000 https://katana17.com/wp/?p=17152 Continue reading →]]>

 

[Andrew Anglin of Daily Stormer fame, has a debate, or conversation, with Sargon of Akkad. hosted by Baked Alaska, with input from Andy Warski. Here are a selection of clips that YouTuber, Kronos, has posted — KATANA.]

 

Andrew Anglin

 

vs

 

Sargon of Akkad

 

Feb 2018 – Clips

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LZh6VzLhxU

 

Streamed live 16 hours ago

NEW MERCH: https://www.bakedalaska.tv JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/K6bs4f4 ANDREW ANGLIN: https://gab.ai/AndrewAnglin https://www.dailystormer.name SARGON OF AKKAD: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ye… REMEMBER TO SUBSCRIBE, COMMENT, SHARE, SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON, AND SMASH THAT BELL BUTTON BTC Wallet: 1F3iu15DwhPRAyqJF1hMiDESRpxw8psSHk ETH Wallet: 0xC397fc134B6559030102b4BD48297c5C97d4d92A LTC Wallet: LhVG4QZ6GhNsyQhsZr7zV1af92gWxP6d19 GAB: https://gab.ai/apple TWITCH: https://twitch.tv/iambakedalaska FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/realbakedalaska INSTA: https://instagram.com/bakedalaska CASHME: https://cash.me/$realbakedalaska SNAPCHAT: realbakedalaska

 

 

 

 

TRANSCRIPTS

(Various mins)

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ChhZMWmXQE

 

 

Andrew Anglin vs. Sargon of Akkad

 

Anglin: So I guess my question to start with for [00:02] Sargon, would be, do you grant the moral premise that White people have a right to their own country, and you’re just saying that it’s impossible to make that happen?

 

Sargon: Well I said at the beginning that I didn’t really want to debate the talking points, because there’s no point!

 

Anglin: Then what do you want to talk about Sargon?

 

Sargon: Let me explain.

 

Alaska: Wait hold on. You agree, you agreed to a debate. I mean, and then, you know.

 

Sargon: I really want to talk to Andrew.

 

Alaska: So you just show up at a debate and you don’t want to debate them?

 

Sargon: Not really. It seems I’m with, ..

 

Alaska: Why did you contact and send me an email, …

 

Sargon: Let me explain.

 

Alaska: Okay go ahead.

 

Sargon: I don’t know how to contact, sorry contact Andrew?

 

Alaska: We have been emailing back and forth.

 

Sargon: Yeah, because you were in contact with Andrew.

 

Alaska: I know, so if you didn’t want a debate, you should have emailed me, and said, “hey I don’t really want a debate [01:00] can we have a different sort of dialogue”. But go ahead.

 

Sargon: I don’t want to bicker or anything. So when you said debate I figured you mean “talk about things from different perspectives”.

 

Alaska: Okay! Go ahead and talk!

 

Anglin: That’s what we can do. I’m not trying to have an aggressive debate!

 

Sargon: Let me talk a second.

 

Anglin: I think it’s I think it’s a good starting point. What I just said, that you went straight to logistics and, .. Embrace race realism. And then the moral right of White people. So go ahead.

 

Sargon: Okay. Listen right. The problem that I have with anything that the Alt-Right says, when it comes to the concept of an ethno-state, is that it is trying to strip away the ethnic heritage that I have inherited. Do you understand that?

 

Anglin: What? I don’t understand that? No. Always, is it the thing that you’re a quadroon?

 

Sargon: No.

 

Anglin: That’s not true Sargon.

 

 

Sargon: It is absolutely true. My grandfather, ..

 

Anglin: I saw your parents in a videos [02:01] Sargon! In Baked Alaska stream, is that bullshit? Because I saw your parents! I saw your parents Sargon! There’s no way that’s true.

 

Sargon: I don’t care about your opinion on that! It really doesn’t matter to me.

 

Anglin: It’s not only an opinion. It’s an observation.

 

Sargon: Of course, it’s an opinion. Andrew, listen. I thought we’d be able to have an honest conversation. Because as far as I’m concerned, …

 

Anglin: Let’s get back to the quadroon question.

 

Sargon: Well let me speak. Look I’m not here to attack you, okay. As far as I’m concerned you are the only honest person in the entire alternative right. So I actually, of all of the people in the Alt-Right respect you the most! You are living the most honest version of your principles. And it is seeing you being, as Baked Alaska said, and I think rightfully so, the most persecuted and suppressed person in modern times. This is what you get for being honest!

 

Anglin: That is true.

 

Sargon: I don’t agree with [03:02] your principles. I don’t agree with the conception that you’re talking about. When I said my ethnic heritage, I mean, as an Englishman. If you think I’m giving up 800 years of fight against tyranny, from the point we are now, in an individualist state with civic nationalism. I as a citizen have control of my government. And if you think I’m giving that up for anything, you’re wrong! That is the English heritage! The idea that you think the I would give that away, …

 

Anglin: What about all these immigrants?

 

Sargon: I don’t even give a fuck about immigrants! All right? I’m never going to agree with that.

 

Anglin: What are they do with anything?

 

Sargon: Listen. I don’t, … Like I said, we’re not going to agree on this. You guys are okay with getting rid of that. I’m not!

 

Anglin: Getting rid of what?

 

Sargon: Civic nationalism!

 

Anglin: Like rights? I mean, I read, …

 

Sargon: Yes like rights.

 

Anglin: I don’t want to take anybody’s rights [04:01] away, Sargon.

 

Sargon: Of course, you do.

 

Anglin: Sargon! Sargon!

 

Sargon: On your website you’ve got “race war and the jewish problem”! Come on! Don’t lie to me! Don’t pretend!

 

Anglin: Okay, I am not lying. Let me say my thing, Sargon. I am an American nationalist. I believe in the principles of the United States Constitution.

 

And this country, my country. I’m not there right now. But the United States, as it was formed, okay, which was as a White nationalist country. Our entire history, the writings of Thomas Jefferson and the other founding fathers. This was a White nationalist country. We had laws enforcing White Nationalism in the United States of America.

 

That’s what I believe in! Okay? Anything else about, you know, civic ideals, this is all peripheral. What I believe in is the right of White people to have self-determination. [05:00] that is the core ideal here. And anything else is just at the side of that. It’s not primary.

 

Sargon: Okay. Well this is again where I disagree with you. But I’m not interested in discussing the ins and outs. I really just want to like talk to you and understand you. Because, …

 

Anglin: That’s, that’s the core of it. That’s what needs to be talked about. Stuff to do with time. And so on. I mean, …

 

Sargon: No no. Let me explain.

 

Alaska: No. First you said you don’t want to debate! Now you don’t want to discuss! I mean, …

 

Anglin: I’m going to ask you a bunch of questions!

 

Alaska: You have I mean, you’re getting paid eight thousand dollars a month on Patreon for you to represent your fans, your people’s ideas.

 

Sargon: No, that is not true.

 

Alaska: You need to represent, … You’re not getting paid $8,000 on Patreon?

 

Sargon: No, just the reason that you’re giving.

 

Alaska: I can pull up, …

 

Sargon: I’m getting paid by people in Patreon, because [06:01] I produce videos that they like to watch.

 

Alaska: Okay so you’re not, …

 

Sargon: I’m not being paid to be here.

 

Alaska: You don’t talk in your videos about. “I want to have a conversation!” I mean, I hear that all the time from you. But seems like you don’t want.

 

Sargon: I would love to have a conversation now. If you guys would stop being so defensive.

 

 

 

Sargon of Akkad is Genuinely

 

Disappointed in

 

Andrew Anglin

 

and Taze A Bro Nationalism.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ChhZMWmXQE

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ChhZMWmXQE

 

 

Sargon: I honestly. This, I’m genuinely [00:02] disappointed Andrew.

 

Andrew: Yeah I know. You want me to say some crazy shit so you can play it like that.

 

Sargon: No. You put shit every day on your website.

 

Anglin: Yeah but it’s, you know, it’s tongue-in-cheek. It’s joking.

 

Sargon: Is it? Look I have to say the mainstream doesn’t think it’s tongue-in-cheek. And I honestly thought.

 

Alaska: Are you really giving the mainstream media credit for getting anything right Sargon?

 

Sargon: Some things. Not everything obviously.

 

Anglin: Okay, so if we’re gonna do logistics okay?

 

Sargon: We’re not doing logistics we’re talking about the moral principles.

 

Anglin: What we’re talking about is logistics. Morality is logistics.

 

Sargon: Is it right Andrew, Andrew listen. Is it right for the government to shoot lawful property owners?

 

Anglin: Okay we’re not gonna shoot anybody.

 

Sargon: Yeah you are. This is why, …

 

Anglin: We can taze them. [laughing] most of these people who don’t even own a property. They live [01:01] in Section eight housing.

 

Alaska: Don’t taze me bro!

 

Anglin: We’re going to taze these bros! Nationalism now! Can use knockout gas, you know. I mean, we guns that shoot tranquilizer darts.

 

Sargon: It doesn’t change the morality. Yeah we’re gonna protect your rights and come to our country and then buy property., you know, become citizens, and then we’re gonna take that away. Is the moral?

 

Anglin: You would accept, … Is that moral? You know, what is immoral is having our right to exist taken away from us. Okay? You are not answering my question. It’s breaking it down.

 

Sargon: Is it moral to have a government do that?

 

 

Edgy Book Recommendations.

 

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQc4eQ4RQk

 

 

[00:00]

 

 

 

 

Sargon: Listen, every person has a right to exist.

 

Anglin: Sargon have you even read Heidegger? [Alaska bursts out laughing]

 

Sargon: No, I haven’t. And he said that every person hasn’t gotta right to exist?

 

Anglin: Well, what he said is that human existence has a deeper meaning than this mathematical equation that you’ve presented as the as the meaning of existence. That we should base our morality off of a mathematical equation as to who is going to suffer. And I think that that’s using an underlying philosophical difference.

 

Alaska: Have you even read Siege, Sargon? Have you read Siege?

 

Sargon: Would you mind not interrupting? Huh?

 

Alaska: Have you read Siege?

 

Sargon: Do you mind not interrupting? Is that okay? Yeah? I’m trying to have a conversation with Andrew.

 

Alaska: All right.

 

 

 

 

Sargon Clashes With Baked Alaska

 

and Andy Warski

 

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QRMX9CXc48

 

[00:00]

 

Sargon: This is German bullshit! And the Germans can get fucked! Okay?

 

Anglin: So you sounds like you hate German there Sargon? You telling us they’re White niggers Sargon?

 

Sargon: It’s way worse!

 

Alaska: And, by the way, Sargon, …

 

Sargon: Honestly you guys need to get woke on the German question.

 

Alaska: Sargon you are on my channel. You should show some respect buddy. If I was on your channel I would give you respect. All right? So you’re on my show.

 

Sargon: Weren’t you just laughing and interrupting me a second ago?

 

Alaska: I’m the moderator. I can do whatever I want. It’s my show.

 

Sargon: Which means you shouldn’t do that. You should, …

 

Alaska: No I can do it. I can do my show however I want.

 

Sargon: It’s not showing is it?

 

Alaska: I can do it however I want.

 

Sargon: Is that not showing respect?

 

Alaska: I’m showing you respect. If something is funny I’m gonna laugh at it. People in the chat are actually saying moderate more. But I’m letting you guys have a conversation.

 

Sargon: I think that you should try and enforce your own rules. But I think, …

 

Alaska: I think you should stop dodging debates.

 

Sargon: I’m not dodging any debates.

 

Alaska: Like you dodged the Andy Warski debate. Yeah you almost dropped out of mine. You showed up 30 minutes late.

 

Sargon: I didn’t almost, ..

 

Alaska: And then you’re gonna, yeah you did drop out of Andy Warski’s debate. And then, …

 

Sargon: No! When did we arrange a debate? When did we arrange a debate?

 

Alaska: So you stopped doing a debate with Warski?

 

Sargon: Well no. Tell me when I arranged a debate from?

 

Alaska: I mean, he literally showed the screen shot on the Kumite. You believe in your ideas enough so you have to keep dodging questions. Dodging debates, …

 

Sargon: I’m not dodging anything.

 

Alaska: You are!

 

Sargon: No, no, listen, listen!

 

Alaska: You said I’m not having a debate I’m having a conversation. To you said I’m not gonna have a discussion about this. Sargon! You are a laughing stock of the internet right now!

 

Sargon: Because I don’t.

 

Alaska: You are intellectually dishonest! It’s not the Alt-Right. It’s the whole internet. I was a big fan of you Sargon! I was a big fan of you!

 

Sargon: I didn’t change anything.

 

Alaska: You need to get off your high horse Sargon! I want you to succeed!

 

Sargon: You are not listening to [02:01] anything that I’m saying. You don’t understand what I’m trying to put forward to you.

 

Alaska: Stop having this smug attitude about everything. We want to like you! We want to, …

 

Sargon: I don’t really, I don’t care if you like me, or not.

 

Alaska: I’m not talking about me, I’m speaking for the entire internet. This is what the entire internet, ..

 

Sargon: Are you sure that you are the voice of the entire internet?

 

Alaska: I am the voice of the Internet!

 

Sargon: I never arranged anything with Andy Warski. I never arranged, …

 

Alaska: I literally, Andy okay, …

 

Sargon: Look I know I know that you think I did. I will send you my correspondence with Andy. I don’t know why he’s lied about it.

 

Alaska: No Andy showed his email with you and you said “sure. We’ll do it soon”. You confirmed that you were doing a debate with him.

 

Sargon: Soon! But there is no time. There is no date. I haven’t set anything.

 

Alaska: But wait, so first you said you did not set up a debate with him, now now you did?

 

Sargon: No. That’s you just said I didn’t set up a [03:00] debate, because I didn’t give a time and a date.

 

Alaska: But you agreed to a debate and now you’re now you’re dodging it.

 

Sargon: When it suits my time frame, I’m happy to have a conversation.

 

Alaska: When it suits your time.

 

Sargon: Absolutely!

 

Alaska: But you wanna have a conversation with anyone except, … you don’t want to talk about this topic, or that topic. You don’t want to have a debate, even though you’re at this, you know, the head of the liberalism.

 

Sargon: I didn’t think there’d be any need to have a debate with Andrew, but we’ve gone through it all. I think there was, …

 

Alaska: Why would there be no need to have a debate when I set up a fucking debate with you? That’s, you’re literally sounding insane!

 

Sargon: If I get to talk to one of my arch-nemesis for the past four, …

 

Alaska: But you’re not talking to him dude!

 

Sargon: Because you’re talking.

 

Alaska: Okay, well here’s Sargon talking to. Well here’s Warski to address these issues.

 

Warski: I did say multiple times that you’re gonna do it. And I have these side chats that I screen shared yesterday on the Kumite, saying, yes I could screen share it right now.

 

Sargon: I think you should [04:01] cuz I said “soon” didn’t I?

 

Warski: Yeah you said “fairly soon” which means you did say that you would do the debate!

 

Sargon: Yeah.

 

Warski: All right. Yeah.

 

Sargon: Yeah.

 

Warski: That’s my point.

 

Sargon: When? When? That was ten days ago Andy.

 

Warski: Yeah! But the thing is Vee and a bunch of people kept saying you wanted a round two, so I was trying to I was trying to plan it.

 

Sargon: [Garbled.]

 

Warski: Hang on! Sargon! Jesus Christ do you let anyone finish a fucking sentence?

 

Sargon: Oh get fucked man! Everyone has been interrupting me constantly.

 

Alaska: Oh come on!

 

Sargon: And then.

 

Warski: You can’t say about, … bullshit, ….

 

Alaska: Let me suck you don’t let anybody speak and then you accuse everyone else of interrupting you.

 

Sargon: Unbelievable! It’s unbelievable!

 

Warski: Whiny fuck man!

 

Sargon: You’re whining at me that I’m not doing the debate soon enough? And you call me a whiny fuck!

 

Warski: No! No! Okay, first of all,

 

Sargon: Yes yes Andy, come on.

 

Warski: You can all get fucked! [screaming] do you let anyone finish the [05:02] fucking sentence! ?

 

Sargon: Oh welcome to my world my friend. Carry on.

 

Warski: You’ve been interrupting Andrew the entire time. You were supposed to be here to debate, and you start off with “I don’t want to have a debate. I just want to have a conversation”. Who the fuck is coming here to watch a conversation? Agree to a conversation we want to hear a fucking debate.

 

Sargon: Do you think a lot of, …

 

I would be interested in a real debate?

 

Alaska: You didn’t agree to a conversation! You agreed to a debate. So Andrew has already won by default, by you dodging, …

 

Sargon: Great victory! Enjoy it!

 

Warski: My point is you’ve lost this debate.

 

Sargon: You can’t understand the terms I’m using man. I’m trying to explain, I’ve explained to you in explicit detail.

 

Anglin: Do I have a case of Dunning Kruger here’s Sargon?

 

Sargon: Yes, yes, I’m the one with the case of Dunning Kruger.

 

Anglin: I you might think you’re smarter than you are!

 

Sargon: Yes I’m sure you are as exactly as smart as you think you are as well.

 

Warski: You said that you wanted to debate, Sargon over and over again [06:02] soon! Soon! Soon! And then you go on your White White nigger rants! I’ve done with debating the alternative-right! If you think the Alt-Right is so wrong about their principles and ideas, then fucking man up and debate! How are you the leader of the liberalists when you can’t even debate Vee? In my opinion V should be the fucking leader! Because he has the balls!

 

Sargon: Shall we give him the crown?

 

Warski: Yes!

 

Alaska: Yes!

 

Anglin: Do it!

 

Sargon: Vee, the king of the liberalists! Good on you!

 

Alaska: Whoa!

 

Sargon: Now what!

 

Anglin: I don’t know. It’s your thing. I guess we’ll have to ask Vee? We’ll have to ask Vee!

 

Warski: My point is you don’t want to debate anyone! Never debate anyone.

 

Sargon: Can I, … Andy, right? Shut up! , you know, that’s bollocks!

 

Warski: I literally see you saying that you wanted to debate him. And now you’re like I never promised! You said “I never promised him that”. And then you were like “okay I did. But I said soon”

 

Sargon: I never said “I promise you” me saying I will have a talk with you “soon” is not a problem.

 

Warski: Alt-Right I’m going to open up the Skype right now.

 

Sargon: No one cares man!

 

Warski: Let’s open it up right now.

 

Sargon: Oh my god! Andy I don’t care!

 

Warski: I can prove it! You’re lying right now. Therefore I will have to prove it.

 

Sargon: I’m lying! [sarc]

 

Warski: There we going. I have to make sure I don’t reveal any private Skype. Okay share screen. Here it is. Okay look look at this. Ah where is it. “yo Sargon, people are asking when you’re down for this Spencer rematch” “fairly soon man. I’ve been busy”. This clearly indicates that you were down to [08:00] have the debate, plus he mentioned it to be a bunch of times, and be messaging me saying you wanted me to help, me to set up the debate. So you coming on here and saying you never promised it, is bullshit! Sargon!

 

Sargon: That is not a promise.

 

Anglin: Sargon, the reason you wanted to debate me, because you thought I was gonna come on here and say I was gonna kill a bunch of people.

 

Sargon: You’ve already said that Andrew.

 

Anglin: [shouting] I have not said I’m going to to kill a bunch of people, Sargon! You thought I was going to say something crazy.

 

Sargon: [garbled]

 

Anglin: Everything necessitates violence! They put guns at the backs of little kids to integrate them with the blacks!

 

Sargon: Then stop being a fucking pussy and say your solution needs violence.

 

Anglin: Sargon that is not a good “gotcha” I’ve said.

 

Sargon: I didn’t say it was a “gotcha!”

 

Anglin: It requires force, the violence, the violence, ..

 

Sargon: Andrew right, as far as I’m concerned you are a Nazi! There’s no point trying to xx. On a Nazi. Now I’m actually impressed that you actually pretend not to be a Nazi. I [09:00] never thought that you would ever say that.

 

Anglin: I do not pretend not to be a Nazi, or to be a Nazi! I don’t know what that means! Okay? I do not know what that means when you use that term “Nazi”

 

Sargon: Okay.

 

Anglin: It’s a slur!

 

Sargon: Can I just quickly finish answering Andy then I’ll, …

 

Anglin: We’re in a debate about debating. [laughing]

 

Sargon: It is pretty ridiculous. But look it’s a slur when the far-left use the term “Nazi”, because A) they don’t know anything about Nazis, and they don’t know anything about the person they’re talking about. And they think it’s a way of just dismissing them as a bad person. Right? It’s not a slur when you can actually refer to the points of principle under which Nazis self-identified.

 

Anglin: But you’re just talking about White Nationalism, which goes back to the entire history of Europe. I mean, when they kept these people out of here.

 

Sargon: I’m not just  talking to them.

 

Anglin: Were the founding fathers Nazis?

 

Sargon: Okay, listen. There’s a reason why we are not White nationalist now. But anyway, Andy, right? I’m sorry that you thought I was [10:00] promising something to you. And I’m sorry that I’ve not done whatever it is you want, soon enough. But I have been busy, and I said “soon” ten days ago. And in my world ten days is not that long a time.

 

Warski: I have one question. Do you want to debate Spencer again, or not?

 

Sargon: Honestly I don’t mind. I’m happy to do it at some point. But it’s not like top of my list of priorities.

 

Warski: And you had messaged me, …

 

Sargon: Debating Anglin is far higher, because I personally can engage, …

 

Alaska: Wait! Wait! Wait! Debating Anglin it’s far higher on your priorities, but you literally came on, …

 

Sargon: Oh my god! Baked Alaska, look it’s a semantic point you bring up here. It it’s not really anything important, is it?

 

Alaska: I think everyone can see through you, …

 

Anglin: It like your “logistics”. Is it logistics Sargon? Were you having logistic problems arranging the debate? With your, …

 

Sargon: Yeah we were actually., because I thought you started nine o’clock. But apparently I got the time wrong [11:00] So yeah, ..

 

Alaska: I emailed you the correct time.

 

Anglin: Everything is logistics! The logistics man! [laughing]

 

Sargon: No, I’m happy to say that was my mistake. If that’s okay? Do you mind if I do? [patronizing apology tone] I’m happy to say I made the mistake of arriving half an hour late. It’s my mistake.

 

Alaska: That’s fine. But then you said that, …

 

Sargon: Can I explain what I was saying?

 

Alaska: Sure.

 

Sargon: I consider Andrew to have a much higher standing than Richard Spencer! Andrew actually has grassroots support! He actually has a base. He’s built a platform. And actually managed to make himself the target of literally every fucking person in the world! He’s actually got supporters. He gets money from them. They believe in what he’s doing, or at least, I guess, they believe in what you’re pretending to be doing.

 

Anglin: I’m not pretending to do anything Sargon.

 

Sargon: But the point is Richard Spencer, as far as I can tell, is like the Hillary Clinton of the Alt-Right [12:00]. He’s the sort of person who, I mean, who here would actually willingly go and talk to the mainstream media?

 

Anglin: Richard Spencer.

 

Sargon: Exactly. Why would he do that?

 

Anglin: I don’t know yeah.

 

Sargon: Exactly! Nobody knows. It’s weird. It’s like he’s whoring himself out, or something. In this week I received an invite from a Dutch documentary team in the BBC, to appear on their shows. And I haven’t accepted, obviously, because I don’t trust them! And I don’t need to trust them. But Richard Spencer does! He would slap it up in a heart-beat. And now they’ve stopped talking to him, he’s come to the YouTubers. This is what I mean. He’s not high on my list of priorities. And “ethane states in space”? Is there anyone here who thinks that Richard Spencer’s plans are ever gonna come to fruition?

 

Warski: Not me.

 

Sargon: He’s not high on my list of, … okay?

 

Warski: Right, fair enough then.

 

Anglin: That was a groundbreaking debate that you had. That’s why people liked it. Sargon. It was entertaining.

 

Sargon: Not really! Oh, that is true.

 

Alaska: It was number one trending. It was good content.

 

Warski: So you don’t want a debate him?

 

Sargon: One thing about it, is we got to find out exactly what Richard actually believed. And his beliefs are so fringe, not even most of the Alt-Right believe him.

 

Anglin: But to you straw manned him Sargon! With a bunch of stupid shit about that he wanted feudalism, and that he was gonna hurt people with violence okay?

 

Sargon: Didn’t he advocate for a warrior aristocracy?

 

Anglin: The state requires violence okay? Spencer, you attacked him for saying the state is violent. Every policy of the state requires violence! Politics are the movement of violence, physical force, or threat of it.

 

Sargon: I didn’t, or at least if I did say that to I’ll take it back.

 

Anglin: So you’re saying you keep talking about this violence! But every everything is violence, as far as the state policy. All of it is enforced by the threat, the theoretical threat of [14:00] violence! If you start smoking in a hospital then there is the threat of violence. There’s a rule against that. So you’re saying you’re saying this, or cannot be any laws with your thing that, …

 

Sargon: Andrew you’re not representing my views correctly here.

 

Anglin: Okay then give us your views of how you can have policies without violence?

 

Sargon: Now I don’t think that you can have anything without violence. I think that the state has the monopoly on violence. And the purpose of the state is to protect the property rights of the individuals, beginning with the property of themselves.

 

Anglin: Of the state?

 

Sargon: What?

 

Anglin: The property of the state itself?

 

Sargon: No, no, no! The property of the people, the individuals. The citizens. That’s what civic nationalism is.

 

Anglin: Okay, but this return, continued return, to this idea that if you remove these people it would have to have violence. Well that’s the same theory if you said there’s no smoking in the hospital, you can’t make that rule, because people are [15:00] gonna smoke and then you’re gonna have to shoot them!

 

Sargon: Yeah, but that is not my primary objection. That’s not my primary objection.

 

Anglin: Your primary objection was the logistics of it!

 

Sargon: No.

 

Anglin: You said it’s impossible.

 

Sargon: No. I keep telling you that’s not the case, but you won’t, …

 

Anglin: You’re moving the goal-posts here. [sound was cut]

 

Alaska: Hello?

 

Warski: I’m here.

 

Anglin: Yeah I’m here.

 

Alaska: We’re losing Sargon.

 

Warski: Your internet is cutting out Sargon. Alright I’ll, …

 

Sargon: Can you hear me?

 

Warski: Baked Alaska invite me back later. I’ll jump out I’m gonna talk it up — he doesn’t want to do the debate with, …

 

Sargon: Can you guys hear me?

 

Alaska: Yeah we can hear you. [16:00]

 

Warski: I have Vee and this angel guy, or whatever I’m round to debate him. I don’t want people to be just waiting there with her flaccid dicks in their hand. You do what you have to do, and I’ll see you.

 

Sargon: Don’t arrange a date for something I didn’t agree a date on, …

 

Warski: I didn’t have a date. I just, …

 

Sargon: Well, why are they holding their flaccid dicks?

 

Warski: Because it seems like you’re being cowardly. If you think Richard Spencer is that much of a low cow, you should be able to defeat him pretty easily, without any preparation.

 

Sargon: I don’t think that he has won any debate. Do you understand? Saying he wants a “warrior aristocracy in space” is pretty bloody ridiculous!

 

Anglin: Your straw-manning Sargon.

 

Sargon: That’s not a straw-man. He literally advocated the balkanization of the US. A return to an aristocracy?

 

Anglin: For all our purposes, all of our purposes is to create a block of people defending the rights of White people in our own countries!

 

 

 

Sargon VS Anglin on Liberalist

 

Plan and Alt Right Influence.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig4X0bzhqsk

 

 

[00:00]

 

Sargon: Stop interrupting and I’ll explain to you my plan right. Basically I think that with a sort of form of cultural imperialism, as in being proud of the native cultures that we have, and emphasizing these above above other cultures, this will act as a kind of soft power. This will kind this will be a natural buffer against people who would like to come here and set up ethnic enclaves. Like, for example, in Rotherham, in you know, Bradford, where all these other countries. If they want to live with Sharia law, that’s too bad. I want Sharia Courts banned in my country. Do you understand?

 

I want that to happen. I don’t want to abandon individual rights, but I don’t want a separate parallel legal system set up. And I think it’s completely within the state’s right to prevent that as well. The state is the arbiter of justice. But I don’t want to just undermine my own civic fucking power over my state. I’m not throwing away civic nationalism! It’s a ridiculous thing to say! Right? But the and this means we can’t do certain things., because if we start allowing the state to violate other people’s rights.

 

[01:02]

 

Then inevitably it’s gonna get round to my rights, because I’m a fucking dissident! Okay? I’m in very in many ways a lot like you Andrew. I also oppose what’s going on. It’s just I have a different perspective. This is I think something that will happen over time, but I think it will be effective and it won’t necessitate the violation of anyone’s rights. And at the end of the day if they all want to kind of like convert and act British, be British, if you know, if you guys think they’re genetically possible. Then I don’t really have a problem with them staying., because like we’ve seen Muslim birth rates reduce in this country, because it’s just it’s a consequence of wealth! If you get wealthy, you want less kids. It’s just, because you’ve got the option I guess. But this is a point. If you guys misrepresent me constantly and you do. If you guys deliberately not understand what I’m saying which I think you do.

 

[02:01]

 

Anglin: I’m not and you said you promote culture in it, that’s going, that’s the solution?

 

Sargon: Yeah.

 

Anglin: To this situation?

 

Sargon: Shutting borders and promoting some kind of culture, …

 

Anglin: By these animals.

 

Sargon: Yes! yes, exactly!

 

Anglin: We’re shit holing it here!

 

Sargon: Yeah, I think we should stop these people coming to our country. I’m not pro Congolese immigration! Unlike the UN delegate.

 

Alaska: All right, so I’m getting this in the chat. Someone said Sargon never gave us his solution. He mentioned cultural Imperium and then digressed without explaining his solution.

 

Sargon: Well I’ve just explained it and the thing is I don’t want to explain one more time.

 

Alaska: Break that down! Break that down!

 

Sargon: I literally just did. I just the did. I just the explained it to you.

 

Anglin: No you didn’t!

 

Sargon: I did Andrew!

 

Anglin: It will just go away? It will just disappear, all these behavior patterns will just disappear? If you just, I mean, look, …

 

[03:02]

 

Sargon: They will leave of their own accord when they find this country is not to their liking Andrew.

 

Alaska: Make sure to get all your questions in too., because also apparently Vee told us that this is Sargon’s last Alt-Right interview.

 

Sargon: I told you that!

 

Alaska: So are you, …

 

Anglin: Vee as your ambassador, …

 

Sargon: No! I said that myself!

 

Anglin: Why? Why is it?

 

Alaska: Are you accepting, …

 

Sargon: I don’t, … you want to consider me as a defeat, I’m happy. No, no, honestly, I want you to think that I’m accepting defeat.

 

Alaska: Okay!

 

Sargon: Okay? We good?

 

Alaska: But I want to, … I don’t care what you want me to think. I want to actually know your, …

 

Anglin: We want an official surrender here!

 

Sargon: Yeah.

 

Alaska: You’re going to try to argue that the Alt-Right has no influence on culture. I mean, that’s obviously not true. So either you are, …

 

Sargon: I don’t see how you you, … what are you influencing?

 

[04:02]

 

Alaska: Are you kidding me dude?

 

Sargon: What are you influencing? Seriously. Go!

 

Alaska: I mean, you’re part, you’ve seen it having the number one stream on YouTube.

 

Sargon: Oh right,

 

Anglin: It’s pretty obvious.

 

Sargon: So that’s the Alt-Right is it?

 

Alaska: Right, yeah, that’s what people are interested, …

 

Anglin: It’s happening in real life.

 

Sargon: Would that have happened if I was xxx, …

 

Anglin: Taking over youth culture.

 

Sargon: Is it?

 

Alaska: Right.

 

Anglin: It is in America, yes. We hear these, …

 

Alaska: Have you not seen 4chan? Have you not seen what people are talking about?

 

Anglin: We had a poll last year. We have 10%! We have 10% support of the Alt-Right in the United States. 10% of the people, …

 

Sargon: Might be your own confirmation bias though?

 

Anglin: Well, I mean, it’s a poll.

 

Sargon: It was a poll done by far lefties, who want there to be a significant Nazi threat in the US.

 

Anglin: I think it was, so I mean, it’s you know, I guess, …

 

Sargon: I looked at it the other day. I mean, like it was done immediately in Charlottesville. And it was nebulous! I don’t think the public know what the Alt-right is.

 

[05:02]

 

Anglin: So there’s gonna be a lower rating after Charlottesville, I think.

 

Sargon: Tell me what your influence is.

 

Anglin: I just said, we’re influencing the culture. These memes are popping up in our media and these are spreading throughout the culture. White people are waking up and developing a consciousness, a racial consciousness and a belief that they have a right to exist as a people! That is the goal! It’s to put a consciousness in the minds of the collective White population, in all of our countries that are being invaded.

 

I mean, they already have this in Eastern Europe, but in the countries that are being invaded, we want to create a consciousness of being White! So that people will begin to organize and act in their own interests! And that is happening! We are affecting the way that masses of people are thinking and everything is going, … I mean, look look at Donald Trump as a phenomenon. This is a White racial phenomenon! It’s a White racial phenomenon!

 

Sargon: I don’t agree.

 

[06:02]

 

 

 

============================================

 

PDF Notes

* Total words = xxx

* Total images = xx

* Total A4 pages = xx

 

Click to download a PDF of this post (x.x MB):

 

(Available later)

 

 

 

 

Version History

 

Version 5:

 

Version 4:

 

Version 3:

 

Version 2: Feb 12, 2018 — Added fifth clip — “Sargon VS Anglin on Liberalist Plan and Alt Right Influence“. Improved formatting.

 

Version 1: Feb 11, 2018  — Published post.

]]> https://katana17.com/2018/02/11/andrew-anglin-vs-sargon-of-akkad-feb-2018-clips-transcript/feed/ 3