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Brian Ruhe Show — Monika Schaefer – One Month in the “Free World”, Nov 26, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

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[Brian Ruhe from “The Brian Ruhe Show” interviews (Nov 26, 2018) Monika Schaefer in her second appearance, exactly one month since being released from a German prison. She served 10 months for a six-minute YouTube video, in which she gave a belated apology to her German mother for berating her for not doing something about the “Holocaust“, that Monika has since realized, factually never happened.

They discuss the trial in more detail, for example, how they had to fight to get the microphones turned on so that everyone could hear what was going on. How Alfred fought and succeeded in having his videos shown in full.

More importantly, Monika discusses the absurdity and injustice of the trial system, in that by attempting to defend and explain why she made her video, she runs the very real risk of being charged again for the same thought crime that she is already on trial for! That is the reason why she was advised to flee Germany, using trains, etc., as soon as she was released.

She ends, saying that she’s looking forward to doing some kind of speaking tour after the New Year.

— KATANA]

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The Brian Ruhe Show

Monika Schaefer

One Month in the

“Free World”

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TRANSCRIPT

(50:53)

[00:00]

Brian: Welcome to the Brian Ruhe Show. It’s November 26, 2018. It’s now one month since Monika Schaefer’s been in the free world! Since she left prison in Germany for the hate crime of “Holocaust” denial. So she’s back on the show for a second time. It’s a real honor to have you back Monika. How are you doing today?

Monika: Hello Brian! Nice to be back with you. Thank you so much. Yes, today is exactly one month since the last day of the trial and the verdict, which did set me “free”. And I’m glad you put that in quotation marks. Time served, so it was ten months. It was just under ten months, but they said ten months and now you go free.

And, of course, Alfred, unfortunately, is still in jail and will be for quite some time. They gave him thirty eight months, so just over three years. And yeah, we can talk about that some more in the show, too. About how people can support him, and write letters, and that kind of thing.

But anyway, yeah, so it’s been one month! It seems like a lot longer ago. I have to say. “time” has a way of shrinking and expanding on us depending on what we’re doing! And interestingly the way I feel now about this past month, one month going by, is kind of like my first month in jail! How I felt in terms of the time, just crawling by, like it was just this interminably long amount of time, that first month. And then time would speed up, like at the end it was shocking how fast time went by in prison! And now, here I am! You know, I was set free and so much has happened over this past month, and so many impressions, and so many emotional highs and lows, and just going through a lot.

I talked last time with you about escaping out of Germany and out of Europe, needing to do that, because, …

Brian: Eight trains you said to get out of the country!

Monika: Well, eight trains and then an airplane obviously, to get over the ocean. And I needed to do that, because I did new crimes just in trying to defend myself! That’s the crazy thing about if you’re a “thought criminal” in Germany, and you go through the court system, you cannot actually defend yourself, or explain how you reached your conclusions without doing new crime! And I think I talked about that at length last time, so I won’t go into that.

Today I thought I would talk more about the details of what did happen in the trial, not just the fact that it was a dark ages almost pseudo secret trial. We talked about that last time, quite a bit. Just all those aspects about problems with the microphones and people not being able to take notes for a while. And not being recorded. No transcript of the trial, that kind of thing.

And, by the way, there was one aspect of that I did want to update, or make a correction on., because we didn’t quite complete the narrative. And that was about the mics.

Brian: Yeah.

Monika: They did get turned on, but it took a while, right? But that first day we were struggling with that, and I think it was maybe half a day in, and finally did get the mics turned on., because I saw that in the feedback, or the comments, that people who were left with the impression that they never did get turned on. That’s not quite true. We did get them to turn them on. But it was only after, you know, I had talked about how I stood up and just said:

“Hey! This is either a public trial, or it’s not a public trial, and they’re just there for show! If you don’t care that the public can hear.”

All those things did not faze the judge. He was not fazed by any of that until, in my exasperation, I just kind of muttered, almost as an afterthought, I muttered under my breath:

“Well, I can’t hear that well, anymore.”

And that did the trick! At that point he suddenly realized:

“Oh okay, we might be a Inquisition here, or it might be a kangaroo court, but we still have to have some semblance, …”

[her telephone starts ringing] Oh dear, my telephones going! I’m gonna just bury that back here and put a pillow on it! Just a sec. Yeah. Sorry about that. I didn’t think of that before. I should have done that before and buried that. But anyway. [loud laughing]

And then the judge decided:

“Okay the defendant at least has to hear what’s going on, right?” [loud laughing]

[5:00]

So that’s when they decided, yeah, they’ll turn on the mics. It was only when I said I couldn’t hear that well, anymore.

Brian: Yeah, so you needed to hear, of course.

Monika: They had to afford us that much, that the defendant herself has to be able to hear what’s going on! [loud laughing] And that took quite a while to get that. But yeah, so just what happened during the trial? People are probably curious, and I know there were some reports, and the Barnes Review put out reports, and from Lady Michele Renouf who wrote about it, that kind of thing.

Monika: Yeah, but a lot of people felt like there was just this darkness about what actually went on in the trials. So I’ll just give a little bit of a summation of what did go on, why it took so long, 20 days in total.

It was basically a giant education for anybody who was there. [Brian holds up the latest Barnes Review with an article on the trial] Oh my goodness! Wow!

Brian: This is a current issue of the Barnes Review and you’re in it. This is the current issue. Yeah Lady Michele Renouf’s write up is in here. Yeah I could just show the audience. Here it is “History and Free Speech Holocausted in Germany”. This is a current issue. This is the write up about you.

Monika: Oh fantastic!

Brian: Yeah.

Monika: I must get that!

Brian: Yeah,

Monika: Okay, well I’ll deal with that later. So thanks Brian for showing that.

It was basically a giant education, so that nobody who was in that courtroom could say afterwards:

“We just didn’t know! We just didn’t understand!”

So, at first they were just going to show little snippets, little tiny portions, of the offending parts of the videos. There were multiple charges against Alfred, there were multiple charges against me, more against Alfred. He’s created more videos. And so they would outline, you know, minute three, or minute ten, out of this video, this kind of thing. And they’d only scheduled four days at first for the trial, and they just thought they’d show these little offending bits, and:

“They broke the law! And this is what the law says and these are ‘inciting hatred’ and riling people up.”

And whatnot. And not show them in their entirety. And then they would be done with it, and bingo, lock them away!

But Alfred was very strategic, and it was brilliant how he forced them to show the videos in their entirety, so that they would be in context. Sort of like reading a book from front to back, instead of just reading a little paragraph here, and a little paragraph there. So you take everything out of context.

Brian: He did he manage to convince the judge to do that? Because I know he did long videos, he’s playing.

Monika: Yeah. He just simply did not answer questions that the judge was asking him, which pertain to the technicality of when, and where, did you produce these, or push the button to send it out into the internet? That kind of thing. And those were the questions that they were very, very interested in. They, of course, are not interested in the contents pertaining to reality, or history. They don’t want to know those things, in fact, they would deny us the opportunity to bring this kind of evidence into the court, over, and over, again. No, they’re more interested in:

“When did you push that button, and push that send? And where were you exactly? And what was the date? And what was the minute and second of when it was released to the world?”

And this kind of thing, because that then can be used to show:

“Oh! We broke their law!”

Right? So Alfred just simply refused to answer those questions. He just said:

“Well, I’m not gonna answer that. We have to see the whole video. I’m not gonna answer that, we have to see the whole video!”

Eventually we won that, or he won that. And the judge just decided:

“Yep! We’ll see the videos.”

So we saw a lot of videos. And then, of course, most of these are in English and they needed to be translated. So they were translated into German and those translations were read out. So those were prepared, they weren’t just simultaneous translations. No, they were prepared. We would see the video in its entirety, and then hear the translation. And those, of course, since they are on paper, they are on the record. Those are now, …

Brian: Oh, so it is part of the record. That’s good.

Monika: Yeah. That is good. So that was a good chunk of time taken up by the watching of those videos. But after each video there would be questions and answers. An opportunity for all of us who wanted could speak. Like whether it was Alfred, or his lawyer, or me, or my lawyer, or the prosecutor. Everybody had a chance to speak. So most of, …

Brian: I remember in your letters, you said there’s a bit more mutual respect between Alfred and the judge, you know, when they’re going through all these videos. Sort of like teaching them, explaining. I mean, he said those were a real education for the court.

[10:15]

Monika: Well, that’s how we perceived it. They evidently, … I mean, we knew this wasn’t going to go, … They were quite likely not going to do us a personal favor. Alfred knows that. We all knew that. However, I mean, we’re doing this for all of us, our enlightenment, for truth. This is just really important historically to, hear it is!

So then a lot of the time, also, was taken up by these motions for evidence, or I don’t know what you would call it in English. It was “xxx”. So these documents, some of them were quite thick, to be read in court. Now the judge didn’t always allow these to be read, because he said:

“Oh, that’s too long, we don’t have time. It’s the end of the day.”

But this was ridiculous! There were more days scheduled! It has to take as long as it has to take. But so, when they were not read out loud, the judges were supposed to read these on their own, and the prosecutors too. And that was the sort of their promise, or their covenant, or whatever, that they would say. Yes, that we will take these for our own reading. But then it doesn’t go to the public, nobody hears it. And then there’s the opportunity for the press that’s there, you know, the mainstream press. I mean, they could just interpret these things however they want, because it’s not actually out there for the public to hear, what, is in it.

Then you only hear the interpretation of the prosecutor afterwards, and in the final judgement, of course, the judge, … But, some of these things did get read out loud. And to give you an example what those would be, one of the accusations against Alfred was this term that he used, “parasite”, okay. And they accused him “that’s hatred”. Well no! He wanted to get a biologist, an expert in to describe exactly what that means.

Brian: [laughing] What a parasite is! If it’s realistic, if it’s straightforward and honest, how could you call it hate?

Monika: In a very biological sense, what is a parasitic relationship with a host? Okay. So that kind of request for expertise. Or a request for an historian to verify that the things that Alfred is saying, either in the videos, or in these long documents, these motions for evidence.

The quotes that are being given by, you know, people who want to do away with us, the White race, for example. So quotes by Noel Ignatieff, or these books, you know, the Hooton Plan, or the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan, or Kaufman, you know, Theodore Kaufman, or countless books, or papers. Or, you know, positions that have been taken and are widely documented and they’re known of but Alfred was requesting that there be an expert historian to verify that these are actually out there in the public record.

See: Ursula Haverbeck – The Hooton Plan and the Migrant Crisis — TRANSCRIPT

[In this 28 minute video, recorded in September 2015, Ursula Haverbeck, a German woman who lived through WWII discusses how the “migrant” invasion is part of larger plan to destroy Germany and is a continuation of the WW II era Hooton Plan (and similar schemes) created by organized jewry as part of their larger goal of world domination, aka, the Jew World Order — KATANA.]

That these things have been said by these people. So that it’s not us making it up. It’s not us just making up things. That, you know, whether the jewish people are saying this about us, or we’re saying this about them, or whatever. No! If we’re quoting somebody else, we want to know that was actually what they said! So these kind of requests. But, of course, those were all dismissed, put aside.

Also at towards the end of the trial my lawyer did make a request for Fred Leuchter to appear in court. Now not in person, because that would be very dangerous for him to come to Germany. He’d end up in the gulag, too! But — via videoconferencing — to bring him back on, because his evidence had been used in the videos, and in the written submissions. And that was also dismissed, pushed aside.

“No! We don’t need him to come!”

So anything that we requested to verify our positions, the things that they are using against us, to incarcerate us, to call us the “haters”, but we’re just presenting it to the world. But any of these things that we wanted to prove and show, they just dismissed it!

“Nope! No! No! You guys are bad! You’re the haters! We don’t like what you’re saying and full of your hatred! And your undermining confidence in the justice system!”

[15:06]

That is in each charge. Then they say you are basically “inciting hatred” and:

“Undermining confidence in the justice system!”

Brian: What’s wrong with undermining confidence in the justice system, or a political system? If you don’t have confidence in it, that’s freedom of speech! Right? Like criticizing the government, anyone can do that, right?

Monika: Well, not only that, isn’t in an irony that these things they’re doing to us, like raiding Alfred’s home three times, over the past three years, and taking all his equipment, and whatnot. And then if you point that out:

“Oh! You’re undermining confidence!”

Well aren’t they just undermining confidence in the justice system by locking people away for freedom of expression, and stealing their equipment from their homes? And, you know, appearing any time of night, or day. I mean, they can come in the middle of night. In those cases they came early morning. But they’re the ones doing all these things to undermine our confidence!

Brian: That’s a double standard!

Monika: And then they tell us we’re undermining the confidence in the system! Right. So yeah.

I wanted to also talk about some of the specific points that I was charged on, and they’re just crazy! And I talked about these during the “last word”, you know, the final, what do you call it? When I gave the last word, four hour speech that I gave. [final words from the defendant at the end of the trial]

So one of the charges against me originally, and actually this one, I think, it was dropped in the end, but I don’t have my legal, all the legal documents with me here. Hopefully they will be sent to me. I wasn’t able to take everything along with me when I fled quickly. I couldn’t fit it all on my suitcase! But the CODOH video that was produced, in which we answer the question:

“Why do you support open debate on the “Holocaust”?”

Brian: Oh! I remember that when you made it. Yeah.

Monika: Yeah, it’s a less than four minute video, which we just sent sound clips, we didn’t actually produce that one. It was produced in the States, and I don’t have to go further with that. But it’s CODOH, the Committee for Open Debate on the “Holocaust”. And this little video, it just turned out really great, I think. Because really, we’re just answering this question, that if you substituted that “H” word with any other word, anything else, everybody would say:

“Well, of course, you should be able to debate that! Of course, you should be able to talk about these things! Why wouldn’t you?”

I mean, this is really the only historical event that is legislated by law. That there’s one version of it, and you’re not allowed to talk about it. But so, this is just answering the question:

“Why do you support open debate on this taboo subject?”

And so I was delighted actually, that if they were going to charge us, and charge me at all, well good that they included that one in there. Because it just is one of these things that demonstrates incredibly well how they are defending and supporting lies! I mean, really! I don’t think you can watch that video without shaking your head and saying:

“Well that’s logical! Of course, you should be able to debate it!”

We don’t even talk about things happening, or not happening. We’re just saying:

“Yeah, we should be able to discuss it!”

Brian: Yeah just to discuss it. Ask questions about it.

Monika: That’s not allowed! That’s not allowed! And they just proved it by putting that in the charges.

Okay, another one that they charged me with, that which they definitely kept in, and I was awarded several months of incarceration, you know, verdict for. Was the video that was with Gerd Ittner, who just was released not that long ago from prison, another prison sentence.

See: Alfred Schaefer – A Dissident Speaking Out – Gerhard Ittner — TRANSCRIPT

And Gerd Ittner and Alfred, they had this video called “Dissidents Speak Out” [“A Dissident Speaking Out — Gerhard Ittner”] and they had a version in German and a version in English. And I think the English version was entitled “Dissidents Speak Out”. In German it was “Dissidenten sprechen sich aus”. And the German version of my offending video the “Sorry Mom” video, the German version in Germany disappeared very quickly, because they censor things like crazy. And so they had wanted, like Gerd Ittner, wanted that video to show up more — and mine’s just short, right, that’s six minutes and theirs was already half an hour, so to add six minutes to their half hour video that was just a little addition — and so they put that one in there, mine, into their video, into the dissidents video. And I didn’t know about it, but I was charged with having collaborated to do this!

Brian: Oh! You weren’t aware of it?

Monika: No! I wasn’t aware of it until afterwards. Now it’s irrelevant what I think about the idea. I don’t even need to comment on that. Do I think that was good that they did that, or not, good? It’s irrelevant! But the relevant part is that they charged me! That I spent time in jail for having participated in doing that! You know, to — what’s the word — to “conspire” with them to do that. Conspire, that’s the word I was actually wanting to use. Because, they keep talking about “conspiracies”! And “conspiracy theories” and all this! Making it sound like that’s some kind of a, like crazy thing!

Brian: Well, like you’re a nut!

Monika: Yeah, yeah! Anyway, so I made it very, very clear, as did my lawyer. And we were able to show that I had no foreknowledge, I had no knowledge of them doing this, to put that video in there. But they kept it in there, and, you know, that was part of my verdict.

Brian: So were you out of prison at the time? When they put it in.

Monika: Of course! Of course. So this is all, …

Brian: So there was no way to discuss it, …

Monika: This is just the verdict on me, because I did get the verdict of guilty. Just, because I was released, doesn’t mean I got “not guilty”. I got “guilty”, but ten months prison sentence. And I had already served it, so then they released me. But that charge remained. So I got a guilty verdict on that charge, even though I was able to prove, really, … I mean, I guess I don’t know how does one prove something like that? :

“Did know about it in advance?”

So they are going to read your mind? But I was able to make a strong case for the fact that I had no knowledge about, …

Brian: What about, they know your letters in prison. It wasn’t in your letters, right, they we’re doing this? So isn’t that evidence of nothing, you didn’t know? You just you didn’t have much communication, right?

Monika: No. That video was produced like a couple of years ago! So it’s not produced while I was in prison, right?

Brian: Right okay.

Monika: But anyway, I made an analogy in the “last words”. I said:

“Okay, let’s say we go out into the woods and I’m gonna instruct people on how to build a fire out in the woods, you know, using the lichen off the tree. And just making a fire where you don’t have a blowtorch, you know. [loud laughing] You might just have a match, if that. And I teach people how to make a fire on a survival course. And so everybody’s happy. And then we come back. And then maybe a month later there’s a case of arson. Somebody burnt down a building. And then they find out, oh it was somebody that happened to go on that survival course and learned how to make a fire from Monika Schaefer! Oh we’re gonna charge Monika Schaefer with that arson!”

Brian: Yeah. Good analogy.

Monika: You know, it’s kind of crazy! Like they’re making some kind of a weird connection that makes no sense. And maybe that’s not even a good analogy, because that was a destructive act, and that I don’t want to make that a comparison with putting that video into the “Dissident” video, at all! But just the logic, the step of logic, just doesn’t exist, it’s crazy! But this is the kind of thing they were doing. And that’s why I was always saying with delight to my friends in prison:

“Gee, every day they’re proving to us how truth, and justice, and right, and righteousness, lies on our side, and they’re defending lies!”

So. Anyway. One of the things that they did also do, they did stop some letters going in and going out, and they stopped those letters, or sometimes they just photocopied them, and then still sent them onwards. But they read one of my letters in court. One letter that I had written to somebody, and it was in German this letter. And at first I was quite nervous. And my lawyer had wanted to stop them from doing that, because he hadn’t seen it. And his argument was:

“It’s always the right the right of the defense to see the evidence before it’s brought out into the court.”

But I said:

“No. No. Let them read it.”

Because I was quite confident, even though I didn’t remember specifically what I’d put into that letter, you know, because I wrote so many letters. But I was quite confident that it should be suitable for reading in court. But still, you get nervous, you know, here they are going to read this letter in court and it’s supposed to be very incriminating!

Anyway I was quite delighted after they read it. And I did translate it, and I want to read that now.

Brian: Very good. Yeah, let’s hear it! Thanks.

Monika: So this was read out in the court, in the Inquisition of the Schaefers. [loud laughing]

[25:00]

“Dear Doctor R.”

I’ll just call him that to protect his identity.

“Thank you for your letter dated July 15th, which I received July 27th. You are not alone in thinking about the witch persecutions. I have often thought of them. I am very grateful that there is no death penalty, at this point, in time, because we both know what would then be. One thing occurs to me, just like today there are many helpers, or quislings, or followers.”

I wasn’t sure of the English word to use here, “Shabbat goy”, maybe.

“Just like today, there are many “Shabbat goy” who firmly believe they are doing good when they betray people who are actually telling the truth. I would think it was that the same back then. It is likely that people sometimes betrayed as “witches”, their own relatives and believed they were doing good. I suspect there were a lot of lies, deceptions, indoctrination, and brainwashing at that time, as well. And that fear played a large role. Or, I probably know far too little about the history.

I don’t think that the letters written to me, as per your concern, harm me, more than help me. The authorities have to catch on eventually, that the more they just lock people up simply for saying inconvenient things, or asking questions, the more it rattles the people awake out there. At some point it just gets to be too much. The servants of the system just don’t know when to stop.

Sure, sometimes letters in both directions are confiscated, copied, either forwarded, or not, used as evidence against me, but I have to say it sometimes has very little to do with contents regarding history. They are not interested in history, and truth! Only whether we bumped up against some thought control law, or pushed a button in the Internet. That’s what I mean.

The law itself is so intangible and unclear. Well, it has to be, for their purpose of serving a regime built on lies. The whole thing makes me think of Kafka and the book, or the film, 1984 by George Orwell. When I read 1984, back in the 70s, I never could have imagined that I would one day find myself in the middle of that book, …”

Then I wrote a little bit about stamps, which is now irrelevant. And then I continued:

“In the meantime the trial continues. Maybe I’ll be out of here soon see, dot, dot, dot.”

And I signed off.

And so, that was a letter that they read out loud. And I’m telling you when they finished reading that I just about jumped up and down for joy, because I was proud of that letter! You know? I mean, I thought:

“Maybe they’re on my side?”

Brian: Yeah.

Monika: It made me think;

“Maybe?”

That like, there’s there are two main judges and two lay judges. And the one who was tasked with going through the mail, was the one of the main judges, but not the head judge. You know, it was the woman. And at first it was that prosecutor who was reading all the mail. And they got way behind, and they couldn’t handle it anymore! And they were just complaining, that’s all they were doing anymore, is reading this mail for Monika Schaefer! And they were frustrated.

Anyway, they finally passed it off to the judge, and she was reading all the mail. And she just looked so friendly, I have to say. I just thought:

“She’s on my side! That letter was in my favor, I thought.”

But evidently not! For their final result, the verdict — especially when the head judge was saying at the very end:

“Every day we proved what haters we were!”

My goodness!

Brian: Yeah, what really stuck with me, the judge was saying:

“It doesn’t matter whether the “Holocaust” happened, or not. What matters is that it’s illegal in Germany to deny it!”

Monika: That was the judge for the Ernst Zündel case — just to be clear. I was making comparison in our last show. About how our judge handled it and how that judge handled it quite differently. Right?

Like our judge never said anything of that sort, and did not let on at all that he might have realized that, very same thing.

Brian: Okay. Yeah I misunderstood that, yeah.

Monika: That was the Ernst Zündel [Trial], at the end of that. And I thought that was pretty interesting actually, because it makes it clear that judge understood.

Brian: Yeah. It would be huge admission for a judge to say that. It’s good that he said that at the Zundel trial.

Monika: Some people make the commentary that was actually quite risky for that judge to have said that. But then, of course, he slapped on the maximum sentence, five years, for Ernst Zündel. So he still, you know, did that. But just by making that admission, just to say that:

“It doesn’t matter if it happened, or not, and what matters is that it’s against the law to question it, and you broke the law.”

[30:15]

But no, our judge didn’t do that at all. No! No, our judge was actually, well the head judge, the one who then spoke, you know, sort of like a chairman. Oh my goodness! No you didn’t get that impression at all!

And I know partway through, after that first wild week when things were just a “gong show”, there. After that it settled down a bit and all the videos were being shown, and then the question/answer and all that. And that’s when Alfred made the comment that he thought there was this mutual respect developing between them. And Alfred is the eternal optimist! Who really does have this positive outlook, thinking, you know:

“These people, they will know, and they will all learn, and they will understand it. And at some point they’re going to turn. And turn around and to come over to our side. To do the right thing!”

And Alfred has that huge, you know, he just radiates that optimism too, which gives him the strength too, to carry on! And it’s wonderful! Like that is an infectious and wonderful energy that he has. To have that outlook!

Brian: Yeah, I can see that in his videos, as well. But I guess it didn’t pan out that way. You know, others were responding to that.

Monika: But at some point it will happen! And then it’s just going to be this domino and avalanche effect! That somebody, some judge is just going to be courageous enough to do that, even if it means that they themselves suffer some dire consequences.

See: Ursula Haverbeck “The Greatest Problem of Our Time” — TRANSCRIPT

And I think that it has happened in some forms, or other, in Germany. Like I can’t remember the specifics, but there was some case that was going on and it wasn’t exactly like ours. But people in all these positions, they know what’s going on. At some point that dream, that prophetic dream, that Ursula Haverbeck had, while in prison already. I don’t know if you heard about that dream? But it was this wonderful prophetic dream in which they, all these military type people, and the jail type people, the inquisitors, the judges, they, … Somebody just at some point said:

“I’m not going to participate in this anymore!”

And in her dream there was torture going on, and all this thing. So it really was a dream that she wrote down. And this has gone out maybe, it’s more, you know, even more, … I don’t know if it’s been translated into English, but it was a wonderful dream. And they just stopped participating, in this dream. And to cut to the chase, you know, in the end she woke up great really relieved, that:

“Oh thank goodness! They have just stopped participating! And now it’s gonna turn.”

At some point, it’s going to turn!

Brian: Yeah it good! Yeah, I guess we don’t know when. I guess they’re firmly in the saddle at this time. But it’s good that you, you know, people are making the sacrifices to do this. But certainly I guess, within Germany there’s more truth amongst the people, about World War Two and the role of Adolf Hitler. There are these groups of Germans which are patriotic and know about that. And they get together and they meet, you know.

Monika: Yeah, it’s hard to know how many people know, they’re in Germany, what’s going on. But it’s more and more, all the time. It really is. Like people are waking up. I know that, for instance, the driver going back and forth between the courthouse and the prison, I know that some of them are very aware, just from some of the comments I was getting from them in my interactions. Because I went back and forth so often that then they started to get more comfortable.

And I just know that they can see what’s going on! They’re driving prisoners back and forth all day, so they see who’s doing all these things. Why are they in jail? And, who are they? [loud laughing]

Brian: Is there any idea of just how many people are in jail in Germany for “Holocaust” denial, for this “hate crime”? It’s hard to get any figures. Maybe they don’t want us to know? Do you have any idea?

Monika: I don’t think it’s that many that are actually, … But I shouldn’t even say that. I don’t know how many there are. But I do know that there’s a lot of charges on the same law, this 130, this paragraph one thirty. Two thousand a year is what I was told. Two thousand charges a year, which means that people are paying fines, people are forced to do this, or that, or the other thing. I don’t know what some of the other conditions are.

[35:00]

Brian: So that’s 2,000 people for “Holocaust” denial and Germany, you mean?

Monika: Well they don’t even have the words “Holocaust denial” in their law. The word “Holocaust” does not appear in that law. But it is always about that. That paragraph 130. That is what it’s about! And there are 2,000 cases a year being processed! And that law has existed since 1994. It did not exist before 1994. So, you know, my lawyer argued very well that they got along without a law for 40 years, after the war. And they were actually encouraged, when he was in his, you know, schooling.

“Yes debate these things! Talk about these things! We should be able to discuss these things.”

And they did without fear of persecution.

Brian: That’s surprising that in Germany they could talk openly about that until 1994. You think they would have prevented any doubts about the “Holocaust”?

Monika: Well, the reeducation program was in full swing.

Brian: Yeah.

Monika: And there too, you know, that really got into swing, I guess the whole “Holocaust” thing, in the 70s, right? It wasn’t right after the war. It was too close to events. But then those people who went through the school system, people of my age, our age, they really got hit with it. And subsequently to that they’re just getting really, you know, the triple, quadruple, dose of that, the poison of the mind! You know, the poison that gets put into the mind, of these lies.

Brian: Yeah. I met, with Germans I’ve met here, you can really see that strong reaction. They are convinced that way. So of these 2,000, you would say probably few would go to jail? They would get a fine, or something else like that?

Monika: Yeah, and I don’t know how many are in jail, specifically for this. I think there’s probably quite a few in jail for related, you know, “inconvenient truths”. I don’t know, though.

Brian: I think the person who has been in jail the longest for this is Wolfgang Fröhlich, about 14 years in jail!

Monika: In Austria.

Brian: Yeah it’s in Austria, yeah. Because he was like a pest-control expert, and he testified in Switzerland and he, while in jail, keeps writing letters to authorities saying:

“No it couldn’t have happened this way, you know, because like this Zyklon B needs about 25 degrees fahrenheit to evaporate to kill people. But they these chambers were only like 15 degrees. It was too cool, so wouldn’t have happened.”

So I think that’s so threatening, because he knows his chemistry! That’s why they keep putting it back in jail. It’s a tragedy, like 14 years in jail! He gets the record, Wolfgang Fröhlich!

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Monika: Yes and I’m so glad you brought up his name, because it’s really important that we don’t forget any of these people. And that we support these people. They are, I mean, what a sacrifice he’s made! And he’s not bending, he’s not bowing down, just because they put him in jail. Right? He just keeps speaking the truth. And this, I mean, they just keep putting him in, back in. Or they keep him in there for the repeat offense. Well, that’s like us in our trial. We couldn’t go through that trial, without repeat offending! It’s rather, … That alone should wake people up, that there’s something deeply wrong with this!

Brian: Yeah.

Monika: Because you can’t defend yourself! Now shouldn’t there logically be the provision that at least during your trial you can speak about these things without “re-offending” making a new crime? No, you’re defending yourself for what they’ve already charged you with! And yet you’re incurring “new crimes” that they’re going to put you in longer for!

Alfred is facing a new court date, January 28th.

Brian: Oh, for what? What’s the charge for January 28th?

Monika: For the things he said and did during the trial!

Brian: Oh gosh!

Monika: This is what I’m saying! He got three years two months. And that doesn’t mean he’s going to, like, they just want to keep him there for a long time! It’s, it’s, … [shaking her head]

Brian: So they can add to it? He’s on trial, so they can add to it?

Monika: Yes. And I mean, it leaves me speechless, literally! So but what can people do? I mean, there’s a lot of things people to do, and we don’t want to prescribe. Everybody has their own imagination, and everybody has their own capacities, and these could be little things, big things. But one of the things you could do to help the political prisoners is write letters to them, or write letters to embassies, or consulates, or whatever. Because that puts the pressure on! And it shows the authorities that these people have support. You know, if the letters just dried up, then it’s:

“Ha! See we can get away with this!”

No! People should be writing lots and lots of letters and keep doing it!

[40:01]

Brian: Well I’ll put the address for Alfred below this video, like it did in the last video. Yeah. I guess maybe your demeanor in court was different than Alfred’s? Was he more challenging and you’re a bit calmer? I guess they treated you differently than they did Alfred, it seems, right?

Monika: Well the verdict was less, because there were less counts against me, as well. And yeah, we have our different styles and that’s perfectly natural too, we’re two different people. I say to people:

“Look we’re on exactly the same page, but we have our different styles of communication and all that.”

And plus it was important for me to get out. I was already there, and so there was a different strategy. I didn’t speak as much during the trial. But I did do quite a speech at the end, there! [loud laughing]

Brian: I think you had a good strategy. You did get out! I was impressed, you know, like, I thought they’d hold you for a year, or more. So I guess your strategy worked.

Monika: Well, the persecutor, sorry prosecutor, [loud laughing] I accidentally said “persecutor”. The prosecutor called for thirteen months for me, and for three years, seven months for Alfred, something like that. So that is one thing you could say. The judges did go lower in both cases, you know, that’s one thing you could say. [chuckling]

Brian: Okay, well, …

Monika: Yeah anyway, I don’t remember what else I was gonna talk about today, but I think that’s probably, … Is there anything else that you wanted, that comes to mind?

Brian: Well there’s a few comments and questions in the chat. One person asked:

“What was your first meal in prison.”

Do you remember that?

Monika: You know, the first food that I was offered was actually in the holding cell, right in the courtroom on January 3rd. When they just grabbed me, and handcuffed me, and took me against my will. And I protested that I was a free Canadian citizen. And they threw me in this hole, in the basement, like it’s just this little holding cell. And then a number of hours later they came by with a trolley, and in the trolley they, in the little cooler box. They had sandwiches and apples. So I had a sandwich and an apple. That would have been my first meal while incarcerated. [chuckling]

Brian: Another comment in the chat, or someone saying. This is from “purple carnation”. He said:

“Can you appeal Monika? How can you not be allowed to produce your own evidence to support your innocence? This is what happened in Nuremberg! You’re really a conquered people!”

Monika: Thank you! That is just, … Thanks so much for that question and comment. And I did want to say this, and I’ve forgotten, both times, both interviews with you Brian. It is being appealed! My lawyer is appealing my verdict! And Alfred’s lawyer is appealing Alfred’s verdict! And people might, at first glance, say:

“Well, why appeal? You’re out! You’re free! Right!”

Well, it’s the wrong verdict, right? They pronounce me guilty, I served months and they pronounced me guilty, plus costs. Can you imagine court costs? Oh my goodness! That’s gonna be a bundle of money! But it’s being appealed! So I haven’t been sent a bill yet, or anything like that. It’s being appealed, because it’s the wrong verdict.

So that’s going to go up to the Supreme Court in Germany. And we talked at the very beginning about the title, you know, being set out into the “free” world. It’s kind of going, you know, one prison cell to another. None of us are free! If there are political prisoners. If there’s one person in jail, we’re all in jail really. Because we’re in this mind prison, we’re in the prison of the mind. Like we are in a virtual prison. So I kind of wanted to throw that comment in there.

And what was the other part of that person’s comment? So it was about this appeal, and, … I don’t hear you.

Brian: Yeah, sorry. Yeah, are you going to appeal? And he said this is like the Nuremberg Trials.

Monika: Oh yeah, that was the other part I wanted to comment on.

Brian: Yeah.

Monika: The Nuremberg trials! At that trial how many people are aware that there they just proclaimed that you do not need evidence to prove something that is “common knowledge”?

Brian: Oh yeah! So they put out the propaganda, people believe it, therefore it’s “common knowledge”. [shaking his head]

Dachau display table. Human skin lampshades, shrunken heads, bone ashtrays — all “common knowledge” with enough propaganda!

Monika: It’s “common knowledge” that this thing happened! We’re just gonna proclaim that it’s “common knowledge” and that set the bar for evermore! I mean, this is just something that drives me crazy! That kind of thing, we need to tell people over, and over again! And we need to spread that. But if you just declare at that first very infamous trial, post World War Two, and it really was a terrible thing that happened there!

[45:03]

They just said:

“This is ‘common knowledge’. We don’t need evidence.”

And then, in fact, they just had all this “counter evidence” which was a bunch of lies, and distortions. And then they hanged these people!

Brian: Yeah. It’s like they create their own realities, kind of jewish thinking, you know, this subjectivism. They create their own reality, and then they impose that upon us.

Monika: Yes! And then forever more, … Like I get this so much in town here people saying, or on social media, people are always saying:

“Oh! This is the most well-documented event in history! This is just so well documented! It’s just got to be the most studied event in history!”

But then they never say:

“No. Where’s where’s the evidence? Where is it?”

No! They just keep repeating that statement. It’s just an empty shell of a statement! Which is a complete and utter lie!

Brian: Yeah. They’ve thoroughly studied the lies and repeated the lies. That’s why they call it one the most documenting crimes in history! [chuckling] Because they document a bunch of lies!

See: Nuremberg and Other War Crimes — Part 1

Monika: You could exactly just invert that, because they invert everything, and they say it’s the most repeated lie in history! And it really is. Or it’s the most repeated documentation of non evidence, or false evidence, or whatever! It, that drives me crazy! And they started with out at the Nuremberg Trials. Just look up articles 19 and 21 of the Nuremberg trials and you will find it in more legalese language, but that is basically is where they say:

“We’re not going to have evidence for this. We don’t need evidence, because it’s common knowledge.”

Brian: I want to ask, how are you doing back home, in Jasper, Alberta? How is the town treating you? How does it feel?

Monika: Yeah, it definitely has gotten better since I last talked to you, on November 15. Like at that point, I had some encounters that just made me feel:

“Whoa! What am I coming back into?”

And there still is that fear in people’s eyes. And I just try to be friendly to them and ask them how are the kids doing, or whatever! [chuckling] It sort of disarms that fear, a little bit. But I’ve also had some really nice “welcome home” hugs, you know. And people really meaning it when they say “welcome home Monika”. And that’s good! I mean, life is not like it was before. It never will be, but I’m not looking for that. We’re in a different kind of a world than what I was perceiving before I started waking up to this, to all these deceptions.

Brian: Because I remember you were barred from the Legion, but you’re not barred from anyone else, right? You are free, right?

Monika: Well, no. I haven’t really tested that out, and actually I haven’t tested that out. And I was barred, I was banned from a couple of other places too, actually. There was a breakfast kind of a place where she was extremely hostile to me and then threw me out, and barred me from ever coming in there.

Brian: Gosh! Gosh.

Monika: But the Legion was the big one, because it’s a sort of a central, it’s a focal point in this town for all kinds of events. Lots of stuff goes on there.

Brian: You’re not barred from the Legion now, right? You used to perform music there, right? [Brian was breaking up here and was hard to hear.]

Monika: Oh yeah. In fact, our band helped bring that up from, you know, at the time that was a pretty dead place and then the guy that — well, Ken Kuzminski, the President there — he wanted to bring live music in. And he approached me with my band to come in. And we came in on a regular basis for about a year. We came in about once a month and performed, and then other groups did. And then he started going with bands that were traveling from elsewhere, not just local bands. But yeah we kind of kick-started that. Helped to kickstart, getting that place a “happening” place. [chuckling]

And now I’m forbidden! But I don’t know if I am, like I say, … Anyway I don’t want to talk too much more about that in case I want to go down there and try it out.

Brian: Yeah. What about going on tour, [words unclear] go across Canada and talk about your experience?

Monika: Oh yes, I’m looking forward to that! I think in the new year there will be a little bit of a speaking tour happening in Canada! So don’t know the details yet. But definitely want to do a little bit of speaking. I would love to do that. And I will.

Brian: Very good! Yeah, anything else? It’s been a good interview, a good follow up on our first talk, when it’s so fresh on your mind. So do you feel you’re adjusting, you’re getting on with your life? Maybe things will never be the same, of course, after this.

Monika: Yeah, like I say, it’s been exactly a month today. And like I said at the beginning, that time, it seems like a long time ago, because so much has happened, and I’m just finding my feet. But I expect that things will go a little smoother going forward from here and maybe normalize a little bit in terms of just day-to-day life. And I’m feeling pretty good!

And yeah, again remember about Alfred, writing letters to him. And yeah, I’m okay! I’m doing well, thank you! And thanks for doing this Brian. I really appreciate you doing these kinds of interviews and doing all the work you do. Thank you so much!

Brian: Well I appreciate having you on my show. It was an honor to be the first to interview last time. I like to do more of these as things change, and talk on other subjects as well. Thanks for being on the show!

Monika: Thank you.

Brian: Okay. Until next time.

Monika: Bye!

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Mark Collett — The jewish Question Explained in Four Minutes — TRANSCRIPT

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[Mark Collett, 37, is a British political activist and former chairman of the Young BNP, the youth division of the British National Party (BNP), and was director of publicity for the party. He has recently written a book, “The Fall of Western Man” available as a free download.

Here he gives a brief* overview of the “jewish Question“, actually the “jewish Problem“, focusing on organized jewry’s destructive agenda towards Whites and the West.

(* Appropriately I suppose given the topic, we get jewed out of half a minute, as it’s barely three and half minutes long, and not the full four minutes as touted

— KATANA]

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The jewish Question

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Published on Aug 24, 2018

An explanation of the role that the Jewish community have played in pushing multiculturalism and liberal social policy on Western civilisation.

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Jews have played a disproportionate role in industries and endeavors that have harmed Western society and undermined Western civilization. And they have been disproportionately involved in pushing anti-Western narratives.

They are vastly over-represented in various media, including Hollywood, the press, and the porn industry.

They are also over-represented in banking, and campaign finance, and vastly over-represented when it comes to pushing for mass immigration, multiculturalism, feminism, and the normalization of homosexuality!

They were also the people behind communism! The most destructive ideology in history!

And more recently they were the minds behind cultural Marxism.

They also distort Western foreign policy by constantly lobbying for wars in the Middle East, and for hostility towards Russia.

And when I say, “Jews” I clearly don’t mean all jews. Just as when people say “Americans were involved in slavery”, less than 1.5 percent of Americans owned slaves at the height of the slave trade.

Also, by saying Americans were involved in the slave trade, doesn’t mean only Americans were involved in the slave trade! As, in fact, Arabs, jews, and Africans, were all involved in the slave trade as well.

So whilst jews are disproportionately involved in anti-Western activity, that doesn’t mean other groups aren’t involved as well.

But there is another important component to all of this. And that is hypocrisy!

Whilst jews have pushed for pornography, mass immigration, open borders, miscegenation, and anti family practices in the West, they have done the exact opposite in Israel!

Israel is, of course, a walled ethno state, where they prevent mass immigration!

Where interfaith marriage and same-sex marriage are banned!

And where they ban material, such as pornography, that they themselves have been instrumental in pushing upon the West!

Jews have an extreme in-group preference. And there’s nothing wrong with that. All peoples of the world have the right to in-group preference.

But the issue here, is that despite the extreme in-group preference found within the jewish community, many jews actively work to undermine the in-group preference within other groups, and have been involved in practices that have had a hugely negative impact on the culture, heritage, and traditions, of those of European descent.

Jews have attacked the glue that holds our communities together, with the aim of breaking up Western society.

The problem here lies in the fact that jews acknowledged the power, and strength, that comes from community, family, and tradition. And whilst they want that power for themselves, too many of them seek to strip that power from those of European descent!

In effect placing themselves at an advantage, and in a position, where they as a group, stand apart from all others, as a strong and cohesive ethnic bloc!

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The Realist Report Interviews Paul Nehlen – Mar 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

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[ John Friend of The Realist Report interviews Paul Nehlen, a candidate running against supercuck Paul Ryan in his home State of Wisconsin.

Paul describes his background as someone who has worked their way up from the shop floor, to engineer, and manager of many manufacturing businesses in the States and worldwide.

He goes on to describe his awakening to race realism, and more recently, and most importantly, his red-pilling on the role of organized jewry and their genocidal intentions against the White race — KATANA.]

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On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined by Paul Nehlen, a Republican candidate for Congress in the state of Wisconsin who is running against GOP incumbent Paul Ryan. In this podcast, Nehlen and I discuss his background and career, his decision to get involved in politics, racial realism, the Alt Right, President Trump and much more!

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Paul Nehlen

Published on Mar 13, 2018

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John: All right folks. Welcome back to another edition of the Realist Report. This is your host John Friend. The website is the Realist Report dot com, where you can find an extensive archive of these podcasts, as well as other radio programs I’ve participated in over the years. You will also find all of my blog posts and articles, a contact page, my Twitter feed, which is embedded in the right hand side bar of the website, and many other useful and important links. I am a regular reporter for American Free Press. America’s last real newspaper. And I also contribute to the Barnes Review, the bi-monthly history magazine affiliated with the American Free Press. I encourage our listeners to subscribe to these fine print publications, if you are not already. Check out American Free Press dot net, and Barnes Review dot org, for all of the details.

All right! With that said, let me introduce my special guest today. It is my honor to have Paul Nehlen on The Realist Report, today! Mr Nehlen is currently running for Congress in Wisconsin against Paul Ryan. The GOP incumbent Congressman. Mr Nehlen, welcome to the program sir! How are you today?

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Paul: I’m doing great! Thanks for having me on, John.

John: Thank you so much for coming on. I contacted you actually a few weeks ago, maybe close to a month ago. And I’ve been following your campaign very closely going back to when you first ran in 2016. And I was following you on Twitter, I’ve been following your campaign website. And I know you’ve basically been kicked off of Twitter, from what I understand. I’ve been very impressed with your campaign, especially the campaign you’re currently running. So, I’m curious how, because I actually reached out to you and then you followed up with me just recently. So I’m curious, how did you hear about my website, or are you just responding to my original email?

Paul: Yeah. No, I somehow came across something that you had worked on and we actually have a mutual contact. And I said, you know, I ought to reach out to him, in that context. So yeah, you probably ought to. I bet he’d have you on. And I don’t know what happened to the email that you sent to me. It must be got by me. So I apologize for that. But was glad that we were able to connect, and so, yeah, I’m glad to be here.

John: Yeah, me too! Again I’ve been following you very closely and I’ve been very impressed. I think you’re doing at this point, I think you’re doing God’s work bringing up some of the issues that you are. And in a very bold and courageous way.

So I guess just to get started, could you maybe just give our listeners a little bit of background. Talk about your, maybe your professional career, your business experience, and then we kind of go from there?

Paul: Yes sure! So I’m a Midwestern guy. I grew up in Ohio, moved to the east coast. Didn’t have the money to go to college, so I worked my way through college. I started out in a factory with a wrench and a torch in my hand and eventually ran that factory, and ran factories all around the globe. I’ve been part of Fortune Two Hundred, Fortune, Five Hundred private equity companies. I’ve got a slew of US patents for my inventions.

And it just so happens that I am living in the district where Paul Ryan happens to reside. And I found out that he was pushing this Trans-Pacific Partnership [TPP] article, based on a letter that Senator Jeff Sessions from Alabama wrote, describing this terrible trade deal. And I just could not believe it.! And so that act of Jeff Sessions writing that letter, is what motivated me to step into the arena and put a stop to the trade deal. I’ve had nearly twenty thousand employees in my lifetime, and I was going to be damned if I was going to stand by and watch Paul Ryan burn it down!

[05:07]

John: Nice, okay, very good. And this was back in 2016 when, …

Paul: Yes sir, that was 2016.

John: Yeah, yeah, very interesting. So I’m curious about your professional experience. You talk about how you were working in a factory and you ended up managing a number of factories. What kind of factories were they like, industrial, production, or manufacturing?

Paul: Manufacturing. I started in a business. It was probably seventy million dollars annually annual sales, building compressed air purification equipment, industrial equipment. And then I went on to companies building valves, pumps, heat exchangers, homogenizes, are all sorts of food and beverage equipment. Power and energy equipment for transformers that transmit electricity into your house and into other factories. I was in charge of Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, for a Fortune 500.

I had businesses in Asia. I’ve, in fact, closed two Mexican facilities with two different companies and brought those jobs back to United States. And I closed a Canadian factory and relocated their sales and engineering offices back in 2013. Those jobs came back to the United States. So it is possible to bring work back to the United States. Now, it’s easy to ship jobs off to China. I mean, any knucklehead can do that, but it takes some strategy, and perseverance, and determination to bring jobs back to United States. So that’s kind of been my claim to fame, I guess you would say.

[07:00]

John: Yeah, no, that’s very cool! That’s very interesting. I kind of admire you, and admire your career and everything that you’ve done. Sounds like you’re a very successful businessman, manager. Were you a, … I was reading your resume, you were a general manager as well of like an entire facility? Is that correct?

Paul: Yeah, in a Fortune setting. President of a division, or company. You might have, you know, ten, or fifteen general managers running a multitude of businesses. Like when I was a general manager of the process equipment business out of Wisconsin, I had Buffalo, New York, Chicago, Wisconsin, Mexico City, and Modesto, California. But then when I was in Europe, I had over twenty factories, over ten engineering centers, supply chain businesses, you know, just all spread out, all over the place. So whether you’re a vice President, or senior vice President, or a general manager, it really depends on the kind of stratification within the Fortune setting.

John: Gotcha. Very, very interesting. Well, you know, I’m curious, you’ve had a very successful business career and professional career. I have a kind of broad question. What does it take to be successful in America today? Because it seems like a lot of people struggle to find a good job, you know, a decent paying job. Something that they actually, you know, they wake up and they want to go do. A lot of people work in America, but are they really doings something that they feel productive, feel proactive, and they feel, you know, it is rewarding, is it fulfilling? And I think that’s something that we’ve kind of lost. I mean, I wouldn’t say it’s totally out the window, but a lot of people it seems like, struggle to find meaningful work. You know, what I mean?

[09:21]

Paul: Yeah. I think part of it is, you know, a lot of our manufacturing, … we build a lot of things in the United States! We still built a lot of things! And we’re certainly the biggest market. Which is why everybody wants to sell here.

And so., I think a lot of people who might not otherwise go into manufacturing, first, because there isn’t as much manufacturing as there once was in this country. But as it comes back, as Trump leverages tariffs, and factories will relocate to the United States to get around tariffs.

That is a reality. And we will have more manufacturing jobs here. I cannot tell you how much joy I have going into a manufacturing facility and seeing things transformed into useful objects, and going out to customers! God blessed me with the ability to work in manufacturing environments, and diagnose, and troubleshoot, and improve them. And I just love the camaraderie, of being around engineers, and production planning people, and shipping people. It’s really a good group camaraderie that, I’m sure it’s not for everybody. I’m sure it’s not for everybody.

But the key is that we all have these opportunities. That we don’t outsource from foreign countries, or even more insidiously, decide that we’re going to bring HB1 and H2B workers into this country, or have open borders, unsecured borders, where illegals can come in and take these jobs away. Because when they report the unemployment numbers, they are excluding the people who’ve just given up. The people who, you know, that we’ve made it so easy for people to get onto permanent disability, that they just say you know:

“Ff it! I can’t do this anymore! I can’t keep looking for a job and coming home empty-handed. I’m going to find some way to claim that I’m disabled.”

And, you know, that just breaks my heart when I see that happen. And there’s a lot of people that are on the fringes, who are, you know, getting themselves into trouble. These opioid epidemic we have in this country, and I mean, there’s so many things that need to be fixed. And it starts with having productive work! A lot of it starts with having productive work. People get self-worth out of that job. People get the ability to change their destiny, based on that work that they can do.

And so, I think you should take every opportunity, for every training you can get, because you never know when later on, … Nobody can ever take your knowledge away from you. I mean, you could fall off your motorcycle and bust your head open, but generally speaking, read a lot of books, watch a lot of instructional things. Fill your head with good useful things, and don’t waste it away on crappy television.

[12:47]

John: Yes. Very well said. I completely agree with you. That’s sort of my outlook when it comes to work. I’m always trying to be productive. I always want to work hard. Get as much done each day as possible and really just learn every day!

Paul: Yeah!

John: And take every day as a new challenge, a new opportunity to grow and to get better at what you do, whatever it is that you’re doing.

I’ve had some employment issues given, my publicly expressed political views.

Paul: Yeah.

John: So I don’t really want to talk about what I do for a living. But I can say that it is in an industry similar to what you describe, you know, your sort of background. And it is very, very, you know, I go to work and I feel fulfilled. I feel like I’m actually accomplishing something, I’m doing real work. I’m not sitting behind a desk and scamming people, for example.

You know, there’s a lot of jobs nowadays where you’re doing telemarketing, or you’re recruiting people, or you’re selling them junk that they don’t need. So there’s a lot of, sort of like, parasitic type employment opportunities that people, frankly a lot of times, they don’t have any other option. And I think not having real meaningful work, has a very profound psychological and emotional impact on people, especially men. I think that men, young men in particular, we need something productive to do, otherwise all hell is going to break loose. People are going to start doing drugs, or doing any number of other very unproductive things.

So I think it’s something that’s very important. It sounds like you kind of had a career doing this. And, you know, what it takes to be successful. And it sounds like, even more particularly, you’ve seen firsthand how our trade policies, how our other more broader economic policies have impacted our economy.

And again, you kind of explained this was your decision to jump into politics and run against Paul Ryan in 2016, was, because he was out there promoting open borders, and globalism, and these free trade deals, that have been absolutely disastrous to the United States economy and to the American worker. So, just kind of recap, that was again your primary reason for getting involved, was seeing what Paul Ryan was up to. Seeing him, you know, promote, what was it, the TPP? I remember that when it was going on.

Paul: Yeah.

John: Yeah, so that was kind of what led you to get into politics. That was the primary thing. But I know, you’ve also kind of branched out, and now you’re talking about other issues, immigration, as you sort of explained. But what would you say that was really the main thing? Was trying to restore America’s economy, essentially?

[15:47]

Paul: Yeah, that was absolutely the main thing! I would have run on that issue alone, to stop the trade deal! It was that bad. It would have turned the United States of America into the “United States of Asia”!

And, you know, I work hard with the “Remembrance Project” the group that supports families that have lost someone to illegal alien violence. And I’ve met a lot of those moms, and dads, and brothers, and sisters. Kate Steinley’s mom and Dad, and Spencer Gobacher’s mom and dad, and just, I mean, the list just goes on and on. Danny Oliver, and Brandon Mendoza, Josh Wilkerson’s mom, all those people who lost somebody.

They are real people! They are American citizens, who through no fault of their own encountered an illegal alien who had no business being in this country in the first place, and they lost a loved one. And, I am hell-bent on seeing a fence, or a wall, put up on that border, that’s going to be defended! That any man, or woman, or child, that approaches that fence, is treated like an enemy combatant! And we defend that border! I’ve had it with any unaccompanied children BS! And an open border. [call broke up]

It sure is okay, for Israel to defend their border isn’t it? They eject the ethnically impure and defend their border! And I’ve had it! I’ve, absolutely had it! So, …

John: Yes! Yes! As have millions of other Americans.

Paul: Yeah.

John: And see, this is what’s so insane, is that you just start making these very basic common sense points. Look! We can’t have illegal aliens in our country! Certainly, we can’t have them you’re committing crimes and killing people! We can’t have all of these migrants come over here and take all our jobs. You mentioned the H1B visas I think they’re called. And there’s a number of other, you know, visa programs that these large corporations, primarily, utilize to get to labor in and pay them, oftentimes, a lesser amount than what they would pay an American worker. So it’s just been absolutely disastrous.

Making these common sense points, you know, putting America first, putting our economy first, putting our workers first, is now, we live in such a politically correct age, where this is considered racist! And it’s funny, I mean, I was just having a conversation with some friends and neighbor friends and, you know, we don’t really talk politics all that much, but it came out that I supported Trump. And I was like well, I don’t want to get into all the details, but my main thing was Trump’s stand on immigration. I think we should build a wall. I think these illegals have got to go. I don’t care how nice they are. I mean, they could be the nicest people in the world. They could be even productive workers. That’s irrelevant! That’s beside the point.

We have laws in this country that need to be enforced, and they’re not being enforced! Why are we giving social services and welfare and other benefits to people that are not even supposed to be here? To criminals! Bottom line, these people are criminals, and they’ve got to go! And to me, that’s so just matter of fact, and so straightforward. And so, just look, this is the law! It’s a law and order issue!

It’s not a racial issue. I mean, I could make a racial argument for a lot of these things, but really, at the end of the day, that is the basic argument. Look we have laws in this country and they need to be enforced. And they’re not being enforced! And we have a government, you know, basically that’s controlled by a very hostile elite, that is hell-bent on dispossessing the very people who founded this country! And that is wrong!

[20:05]

Paul: Yeah, I completely agree. What race makes it okay, for you to go into somebody else’s country and break their laws? There is no race card you can play that makes that all right. And furthermore, we keep hearing this argument that well, you know, illegals don’t commit more crimes at a higher rate than the citizens. That is a false argument, from the jump! There should be zero crimes committed by illegals in this country! , because there should be zero illegals in this country! To suggest that the rate of crime has anything to do with it is false!

There shouldn’t be any illegals in this country. Whether you came here illegally, or you overstayed your visa, it doesn’t matter! If you’re on our soil illegally, you’re illegal! You get sent out! A problem exists and we have no means to keep people out of this country.

Gobache, he had been deported four times! He’d previously spent time in American prisons. He shot Spencer in the head at a red light. Spencer just pulled up, and the guy used his head as target practice! Kate Steinley was murdered by a five-time previously deported illegal alien! We can’t keep these people out of this country. We’re giving them a free trip back to Mexico, but that’s not doing us any good! It doesn’t do us any good at all! We’ve got to have a way to keep them out of this country.

John: Now that’s sort of where the wall comes in, correct? And I think the wall would be effective at, you know, preventing people from just crossing our border at will. But also I think it’s sort of like a symbolic thing as well. Like, look, the United States is not just up for exploitation any longer! We’re enforcing our laws. We’re building a wall, and we’re getting serious about this. I mean, think about it, what other country, aside from the United States, maybe Canada, certainly Europe.

You know, what other countries out there — and, by the way, all of those countries just so happen to be founded and built by White people. What other country out there, you mentioned Israel, you used Israel as an example. It’s a very ethnocentric, racial state. You have to be jewish to be a citizen. You can’t just show up in Israel and expect to get welfare, and housing, and free schooling and everything else. Don’t you ever go over to China expecting that! I mean, give me a break! Every other country enforces their laws for a reason.

Why is it only the United States, and European countries, and maybe to a lesser extent Canada, I don’t know, I don’t know all the details of what’s going on in Canada. But it seems like, it’s only Western countries that are pitched as these “Proposition Nations”, where everyone, from anywhere in the world, has a right to come over here and become an American citizen. And not even necessarily become an American citizen, but just to come over here and exploit our resources, and take advantage of everything that we’ve built up! I mean, it’s absolutely outrageous!

[23:31]

Paul: Well, I think more people are becoming aware of the situation. And I think a big part of the fact that I’m not on Twitter anymore, was a big part of the fact that I was spending a whole lot of time, pointing out the amazing hypocrisy of censorship on the Internet.

And, you know, my “Shall Not Censor” proposal which would make it a federal crime for the large social media companies, essentially, YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter, [call broke up] Free speech would carry on to, our lawful speech would carry on to those social media platforms. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that a few days after I introduced that proposal, that the onslaught of attacks from the globalists, and I named them, was just off the hook!

John: Just relentless! I remember watching it play out on Twitter!

Paul: Yeah, so in December I released that proposal December fourteenth. And I immediately started getting attacked for being an anti-semitic, and a racist! By then I had been really noticing who it was that was attacking me. And so, I decided to count all of the, just the verified Twitter users, not even unverified, just the verified Twitter users in my feed, who were attacking me. And I wrote down their name and their Twitter handle.

And I set about researching those eighty-one people who attacked me in December of 2017. And it turned out that seventy-four of those folks were of one tribe, and seven were of another tribe. And the seventy-four were from the jewish tribe, which represents two percent of the United States. So I have [call broke up] who makes up two percent of the US population. Now I’m an engineer, but it doesn’t take an engineer, or a statistician to tell that there is something absolutely sticking out at you when that happens. And so,

John: Don’t you dare notice that though, right!

Paul: Yes.

John: You can’t notice these things!

Paul: I got a seven-day twitter suspension for noticing it. And, you know, I was forced to delete my truthful tweets, which pointed out the hypocrisy of that. You know, I’m not ashamed of that. Every single day John, every single day blacks, and Whites, and Hispanics, and Han Chinese, they’re all subjected to criticism and critique in all sorts of circumstances and situation. All races are subject to that criticism and critique. All except for one, jews!

[27:20]

That’s a double standard and that’s unacceptable! And I am going to continue to point out the hypocrisy of this, because it is undermining, and unweaving the fabric of our society.

And, you know, I grew up Lutheran. I went to Catholic church with my ex-wife and her kids. I got married immediately had kids in junior high. I was twenty-nine, I had kids in junior high. You know, I raised as boys like they were my own. And I got them through junior high and high school, and college, and graduate school. We ended up splitting up.

But I went on to, I ended up in an evangelical church at first. But there was a whole lot of reference to, kind of like reverence for Israel! And I really don’t understand it. I mean, at the time I had no idea. But, you know, I mean, this was 2014, I didn’t really, I mean, until really 2017, I kind of noticed it 2016. And I really started noticing it in 2017.

Towards the end of 2017 it was unquestionable that the people that were attacking me were predominantly jewish. And then things started making a whole lot more sense to me. Things that had gone on in 2016, made a lot more sense to me. And so, being that I had lived for forty-seven years and really didn’t catch on to all this, I thought, you know, this my responsibility. Was To tell other people.

“Hey this is going on around us!”

And it’s not about anything other than being pro-White. And I’ve been called a White supremacist, a racist, an anti-Semite. And, you know, if pro-White is “White supremacist” what is what is pro-jewish?

To me it’s jewish supremacism! If pro-White is White supremacist, then pro-choice is jewish supremacism. And certainly, if you look at it from the ADL’s perspective, there is no such thing as jewish supremacism, the jewish supremacists will tell you. And whenever the news media decides that it is going to validate one of their stories, there will be a jewish newspaper, or news media story, they will check with the ADL, to see if what they’re writing about me is true. That, is Nehlen really an anti-Semite?

So a group of jews goes to another group of jews to validate what the first group of jews says! Are you kidding me! I mean, it’s constant! I had a guy write a story today in The Boston Herald that was filled with lies! Filled with lies! He said, the first time Nehlen ran in 2012, he was a Tea Party candidate! I never ran in 2012! But he went on to equate me with these folks who tipped over jewish headstones, and made graffiti, Nazi graffiti! Well it turns out, those were all perpetrated by jews! All of those were hoaxes! They were all perpetrated by jews!

[31:07]

I mean, the article just went on, and on, a classic case of gas lighting! And we deal with that every day. But people aren’t aware of it, and certainly evangelical Christians who think there are still some “land grant”, there’s still some promise from God to these folks, who spit on Christ! That “land grant” is not with those people! And I’m going to continue to tell the story! I’m going to continue to say to everybody:

“Hey look! What you’re being taught in Evangelical church stems from the Scofield Bible. And it’s not the teachings of Martin Luther! It’s not the teachings of the early Christian church!”

Early Christian church saw it for what it was. They, the jews, were expelled from Israel in 87 [AD], because God told them they were going to be expelled! And it’s not God who brought Israel back. I’m convinced the US hasn’t been better, I don’t think the US has been blessed more since Israel’s been in existence. In fact, if you went back to when Israel, 1948s the United States better now, than it was in 1948? I’d argue it isn’t! I would argue we are more divisive, we’ve got this diversity which is divisive. In every culture when you try to jam a bunch of cultures together you end up with catastrophe! Is what you end up with!

And that’s what we have here. Is headed towards catastrophe. They are making it okay, in the news media, to suggest that it’s okay, to punch a Nazi. But guess what! The only people who can be called Nazis, are White people! That’s what they’re doing there! They’re giving us a name, and saying it’s okay, to punch White people! It’s okay, to dispossess White people.

I just read an article, in a 400 level seminary class in Indiana [a student] was thrown out of the class for challenging the professor but there’s only two races [genders]. And the woman that was teaching the class, just had some TED talk from some transvestite, or trans something, or other. I mean, “up is down, down is up!” And we’ve got to come together, as a people, and say this is wrong, right! We’re going to advocate for White people. That’s doesn’t mean we’re advocating against somebody else! We are advocating for White people!

And I think it is absolutely, … I’m reading an article right now, a book by Greg Johnson called, “New Right Vs Old Right” all about meta-politics, and all of us coming together.

[34:18]

John: Yeah, I know, I familiar with the book. I’ve read it myself, I have a copy of it. Yeah, it’s a very good book. Sorry, go ahead and finish your thought. I didn’t mean to interrupt you.

Paul: No, no, yeah, I think we have to get smarter about what we’re doing. We have to read up, and we can’t vote as split blocks. We really can’t, because reality is, there is a concerted effort, right now, essentially do away with the White race! It’s going on across the globe right now, and we’ve got to reverse!

John: Yep.

Paul: We’ve built some of the greatest civilizations known to man and we have to make a concerted effort to save it.

John: Yeah, yeah. No, I completely agree! I’m curious because, of course, any time you get into these topics, whether it’s criticizing jews, or just simply noticing things about jews, and noticing the way jews behave, the way jews operate, the sort of agendas they push, the sort of narratives they push, just noticing these things and becoming concerned about it, doing research into it, etcetera, it will lead you down these paths to racial realism, to really researching the jewish Question.

So, I’m curious, how would you describe your racial views? Because, if I’m not mistaken, in 2016 you were more sort of like just in a “America first” Trump style populist, right? You weren’t really getting into the racial issues, you weren’t really getting into, you know, the jewish Question, for example. So we’ve kind of seen a transformation and it seems relatively recent. So I’m just, how would you describe to somebody your overall racial views?

Paul: Well you’re right, you watched it in real-time. Everybody said:

“Oh yeah! Hey look at this meme of Paul Nehlen and Israel in 2016 at the wall!”

Yes, I was. I had my Trump hat on. I went to Israel, and I did filming for a documentary that I did on Islam. And, I had no idea of anything going on behind Islam, or other people pulling strings and other stuff going on. And everybody watched me in real-time taking red pills, and getting wise to the situation. And I would say, at this point, I would describe myself as a “race realist”. That I acknowledge that there are differences between races, and there are values, different values in different races, and different, …

You know I watched a video us night of a black preacher, who’s an American guy. And he was talking about, the guys traveled all over, and he was really well-educated, had his story together, he said:

“You know, I, …”

He’d been to St Petersburg and he talking about when St Petersburg was built and how St Peter went out and built this glorious, glorious city where there was nothing before it. And how there were no White men in Africa in the 1400s, or the 1500s, or the 1600s. And that he had been over Oxford, this black preacher, and been over to Oxford. And he was in these buildings that were built-in, I think he said 1680, or 1714, or something. Very old! And he just marveled at that! He said:

“You know, there isn’t a single structure in all of Africa! From Libya all the way to Cape Town! Not one! From the 1400s, 1500s, or the 1600s, or from the 1700s! There might be one from the 1800s!”

And, you know, he said:

“You can’t blame White people for that.”

[38:26]

And the guy was dead on right! And so you look at that you say, wait a minute! We built civilizations and people aren’t racing to other countries to establish themselves in these other countries. They’re racing to White countries! They’re racing to countries where White heritage built that country. And you’ll hear people say:

“Well, yeah, America was built on the back of blacks!”

No blacks built Boston! No blacks built many, many, northern towns. And only 1.6 percent of the people in the South owned slaves. So yeah, there were slavery. And how did the slaves get here? The Muslims rounded them up and sold them off. And the blacks fought against the blacks in Africa, and sold them to the Muslims.

And who was doing all of the money keeping and the trading of that? It was the jews! I mean, it, you know, when you step back and you look at all this, you go, wow!

There’s a whole lot of race realism to learn, if you’re willing to be called a “racist”.

John: Yeah!

Paul: If you’re willing to stand in the breach and be called names, you can learn a whole lot! But that doesn’t mean that I don’t love my wife, who happens to be not White. I love her dearly! I prayed to God that he would send me somebody who loved me. That’s all I wanted was somebody who loved me.

And, you know, my first wife was White. I married my high school sweetheart, and that didn’t work out. I married another woman, who was White, and we were married for quite a while and things didn’t quite work out. You know, God, I keep moving forward and I keep praying about things. And God sent me a woman who loves me very much. She doesn’t happen to be White. If you heard her on the phone, you think she’s the Whitest woman you ever met. But she loves me, she takes care of me, she looks out for me, she cares for me.

But, you know, I say these things to her, you know, it’s dangerous in Mexico! I mean, there, largely, there’s a population down there that is prone to violence and does not value life the same way we do here in the United States. And every day I’m proven right. There’s amputations [decapitations] by drug dealers, and murders, and kidnappings, and just the most horrific things right on the southern border of United States! Right over the border. And getting into the United States. So I am absolutely a race realist!

[41:20]

You know, if you ask a thousand Chinese people that spoke English, in China. You and I took time travel and went the China right now and we are there for coffee in the morning. And we asked the thousand Chinese people:

“What would happen if you stopped working?”

The predominant answer we would get from them is, “You die!” Here in United States you can be a single mom with eight children of five, or eight different fathers, and you could decide that you need some more money from the government, so you’re going to have a ninth child. Now if you, or I say:

“Well that’s wrong! You shouldn’t be able to do that.”

We’re either called racists, or uncaring bigots, or whatever! Whatever that mom [call broke up] and there’s some sense of entitlement here in this country, that’s built up over time, that’s wrong! That is wrong whether you’re a White person, or a black person, or a brown person, any person! They have no right to my money! They have no right to John Friend’s money, in order to stay home and make babies, and live off the largess of the government.

So I think within races there are stratification, there’s the strong and the weak, the smart and the fool, you know, the hard-working and the lazy slacker!

So, we have to be willing to call that out!

John: Yeah! Yeah, you know, I think you’re making a lot of good points, and one thing I think that a lot of people struggle with, especially White people, when it comes to some of these racial issues, is that our overall historical narrative is presented from such an anti-White perspective. I mean, White people, if you think about it, growing up in America, for example, as a White child you’re learning about how evil White people came and took over America, and had slaves, killed their slaves, whipped their slaves, treated them terribly, separated families apart. You know, we exploited the Native Americans and enslaved them. Then there’s colonialism and then, of course, the “Holocaust” that pretty much every single White person is apparently responsible for!

Paul: Right.

John: So my point is that our historical narrative, the mainstream historical narrative, is presented from a very anti-White perspective. And I think that prevents a lot of White people from having a healthy racial consciousness! I mean, racial issues aren’t really taught in school anyways, like race realism anyways. So it’s fundamentally presented from a very anti-White perspective. Where White people and there’s even quotes from some of these radical jewish intellectuals, for example, where they’re literally saying:

“White people are the cancer of history!”, “White people are responsible for all of the problems we see in the world today. All of the injustice we see in the world today.”

So most people get this and they don’t really think critically about it. They’re not offered any other alternative explanation of history, or whatever. And the more research that I did when I kind of started getting into some of these racial issues, … I was reading Dr Kevin MacDonald website, the Occidental Observer dot net, who he recently joined your campaign — which I do want to talk about here in just a second.

[44:56]

Paul: Right.

John: But I started reading material from Dr MacDonald, Jared Taylor. You mentioned Greg Johnson — I’ve read a couple of his books — and other thinkers, and writers, and whatnot. And I came to the realization that a more accurate and objective perspective of history, portrays Whites truly as the founders of civilization! And really the people that really created all of the political development we see today, created all — at least most of it — the economic development, all of the advances in technology and architecture. I mean, you name it, I mean, really I think that’s a much more accurate objective, and ultimately a much more healthy person, certainly for White people. But also for everybody else, for that matter. Much more, a much better narrative of history. One that’s actually true, and not totally weaponized by jews against Whites!

I mean, that’s my opinion, but I think we can make a pretty good case that is exactly what’s going on! I think really that’s kind of a main impediment to people actually having a healthy racial perspective, at least White people, anyway. Our history is presented in such a negative and anti-White way that it’s difficult to think about these things. And, of course, our perspectives, pro-White perspectives, race realist perspectives, are not even allowed to be entertained in schools! It’s that tyrannical.

[46:31]

Paul: Yeah. I’m frequently annoyed when I hear this raging against Russia. Russia, we ought to be friends with Russia by this time. And I would suggest that if we were aligned with Russia and not with Israel, we would be in a lot better position as a globe, than we are today! And that a lot of this fighting, you know, it’s almost as if it’s the man behind the curtain doing a lot of this.

For example, the hash tag “Oscars so White”, right? That put in a lot of people’s minds that, you know, it’s terrible that there are so many White people. When in fact, Hollywood is all jews! And, you know, if you look at somebody the color of their skin doesn’t tell you that there are White, or if they’re jewish.

And maybe the keen observer can tell one from the other. I can’t, I have to research it. And I have to check out the names, check out the history, check out all the things, the “markers” as you well know. So that whole “shapeshifter” situation, where we’re led to believe that Whites are doing all these bad things, when, in fact, they’re jews are doing these things!

John: Right!

Paul: And they’re portraying themselves as Whites when they do them, for the benefit of undermining the Whites!

But, an interesting thing is happening, and it comes from all places, the Nation of Islam. You may have seen some of the leader of the Nation of Islam recently. He has been naming the jew, and so I thought for a moment, well maybe I reach out to him and have a discussion. Then I thought, maybe not, you know, he’s pretty polarizing figure and there’s probably folks who maybe have a larger drawing in the African-American community.

But the reality is, the African-American community and the Hispanic community, are being manipulated by the jews, the same way Whites are being manipulated by jews. And I think, I don’t know this to be true, but I think blacks think those folks are Whites. And same thing with the Hispanics. And they think it’s Whites doing this stuff to them when, in fact, it’s the jews.

[49:47]

And the better we are at pointing that out to them, the more folks we’re going to have on our side. Because, I don’t think we should only wage this bottle against the globalists, the international cosmopolitans, ourselves. I think we shouldn’t enlist the help of the African-Americans and the Hispanics. I want them to have their own space. I do. And I want my own space. I don’t want to have to constantly be waging battle with the blacks and the Hispanics, because they think the Whites are the ones behind all the shenanigans, when, in fact, it’s the jews are behind all the shenanigans.

John: Right.

Paul: So I’m going to make a concerted certain effort to point that out to them.

John: Yeah. No, I hear you. I think you’re making a lot of sense, and that’s kind of always been my approach. I’m willing to, you know, collaborate with, work with, or just have an honest conversation with anybody, you know, no matter their race, even if they’re jewish. And if you want to have a conversation about these issues, let’s do it. But I expect you to hear me out, just like I’m going to hear you out. And, you know, I can’t have you be offended at every little thing I say.

But I think, again, I think a lot of non-Whites in general, I think they have been used by the organized jewish community, as sort of like the pawns in this greater game, right? I think you can make a very strong case with that. And especially when it comes to like the history between the organized jewish community and the black community. Like the NAACP, for example, was founded by a bunch of jews as a way to basically instigate them and to use them to ultimately undermine White society.

And we see this across the board with the organized Jewish community. I mean, they are always partnering up and collaborating with every single minority! Whether it’s illegal aliens now, or blacks back in the forty’s, fifty’s, and sixty’s.

Or, right now the big thing is that LBGT community. They use all of these minorities in this broader war against traditional Western, Christian civilization, which, you know, I shouldn’t have to point this out, but I will, was founded by White people! And developed by White people, primarily.

So I think you’re right about that, and I think you do see a lot more people on YouTube, and in the alternative media on Twitter, etc., that are non-White, and they’re talking about jews. They recognize these things. I’ve been following — you were talking about the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan — I’ve been following him for a number of years and he’s always been a critic of jews!

Paul: Yep.

John: And he’s always stood up to them. He’s always called out, you know, just exposed jewish power, Jewish supremacy in the United States. And I do want to get into the jewish question, and how you got Dr MacDonald working on your campaign.

Paul: Yeah.

John: Correct me if I’m wrong, but I mean, you really started connecting the dots. It was primarily, and you kind of already explained this, primarily, because of all the censorship, and all the all the jewish pressure put on you on Twitter, and on other social media platforms, to basically shut you down and to get you to shut up! Talking about the issues that you were at the time. Is that is that basically correct?

[53:13]

Paul: Sorry you broke up on me there.

John: Oh no, I was just, to kind of recap how you kind of got into looking more closely at sort of the jewish question. It was primarily, because these people were attempting to shut you down, correct? And then that kind of led into other aspects. Go ahead.

Paul: Yeah, it started back in 2016. I had people attacking me on the trade deal and on closing the border down. And I noticed it a little bit back then, but I wasn’t so cut and dried at that point. And then supporting Trump, I had some of the same people, but some more folks attacking me. And then when I made my documentary “Hijrah – Radical Islam’s Global Invasion” I had persons attacking me there.

And I went over Israel, and there’s a woman on Twitter named Amie Mac. Just before I left, I was talking to a guy by the name of Jared Wyam on Twitter, and she reached out to me at the time. The conversation was like:

“Jared Wyam is a rotten human being! He’s a White supremacist!”

And blah, blah, blah! And you know, I’ve chatted with Jared a few times, and I didn’t find him offensive at all. And I basically told Amie that well, you know, sorry you feel that way, but I’m going to choose who I speak to. You’re not going to reach out to me and tell me who I’m allowed to talk to and who I’m not allowed to talk to. Who hell does that, right? Well, it turns out that is what Jews do.

John: That’s what they do!

Paul: I’ve learned about, a year ago, January, the story about twenty million Christians being killed by these Bolshevik jews. And I had never heard this story before! And I said, where did this come from? Why am I just now hearing this? I’m forty six years old, at the time, and the guy that I was speaking said:

“You need to get this book, ‘The Culture of Critique’”.

He said:

“I can explain this to you right now, in one conversation. You’ll never, … it’ll be like the most massive red pill ever! You aren’t ready for this!”

[55:51]

So, I got the book, and I, like that day I got the book! And I read ten pages of it, and I shook my head, and I laid the book down and said:

“What the hell is this guy talking about?”

And that book laid there for like six months.

[call broke up]

John: Last I heard was, you know, you were describing “Culture of Critique” and how you obtained a copy of the book and you read like ten pages, and then you put it down and the book laid there for six months. You want to pick up right there.

Paul: Sure. Yes sure.

So then the attacks just kept coming, and I did the best I could with all of them. You know, kept on my message. And I picked that book up again, I don’t know, three four more months later, and read the same ten pages, and put it back down. And I just couldn’t get it!

[56:51]

And then when the attacks came after I released the time.

Paul: Legislation and I realized all these attacks, ninety-two percent of these attacks in December were from Jews. I picked that book back up and started reading it. And I couldn’t put it down! And then I reached out to — I’ve got to mutual friend with Dr MacDonald — and asked him if be okay, if I called? And I called him and he said to me:

“I’ve been a big fan of yours!”

And I thought that was so funny, because, you know, I just read his book and I really, really, enjoyed it. And I wanted to talk to him about it. And we had a great conversation! And he’s very kind with his time. He wants to help me learn and understand, and so I asked him if he would be interested in being on my campaign. And he very graciously, … first he asked me [call broke up] And we discussed how that would play out, and he said that he was interested in doing it. And I’m very grateful for that.

I’ve got Josh Smith moved over to Legislative Director, and unlike most other campaigns in the country, we’re writing legislation ahead of being elected., because we want somebody to pick it up. This “Shall Not Censor” legislation is so vital to free speech on the defacto public square! As the Supreme Court has ruled, the social media platforms are now the de facto public square. And I’ve got a couple other things that are brewing, that are going to be coming to fruition here very quickly, behind it.

[58:50]

Because I don’t look at this as a full-time, for the rest of my working days. I’m going to do that for, you know, a few years and then I’m going to step out of it and let somebody younger coming up behind me work on it.

I’m an engineer, I like building things, I like running businesses. I think that I’ll be good for a while, helping with the nation. And I intend to do that. So, I’m just very grateful that Dr MacDonald has agreed to help me.

John: Yes, me too! I read your press release which I think you put out, if I’m not mistaken, last Friday. And I subscribed to your campaign. By the way, do you want to give out the website.

Paul: Sure. Yeah. It’s “elect nehlen dot com”. Elect and NEHLEN dot com.

John: Perfect. And Il, of course, have the link, …

Paul: You can follow me on Gab.

John: Yeah, I’ll have a link over to your official campaign website, as well as your Gab profile which is probably the best way to follow what you’re doing. Unless your on Facebook, I guess. I’m not on Facebook.

Paul: Yeah, I’m on Facebook. I’m fairly active on Facebook. You know, the constituencies are different. I’ve got an older population on Facebook here and so I communicate with them, you know, fairly regularly, a few times a day, in fact. And I’m a voracious reader and I try to share with people what I’m into at the moment, and following, and trying to keep them aware, abreast, of what’s going on in Congress., in fact, there’s going to be a vote this week on taking guns away from veterans.

They’re going to call it, … you know, they always call these things some ridiculous name, like “Safe Schools Act”, or something like that. And it really is this Nix fix going through, and it’s going to pay half a billion dollars to a bunch of different US agencies to add names to the Nix List. Well do you think they’re going to add more names, or fewer names, if they’re given more money? They’re going to add more names! They’re going to add a bunch of veterans names! If any veterans have anybody helping them take care of their money, or any number of things, it’s going to be a trigger for their rights, their Second Amendment to be abrogated! It’s ridiculous!

[61:38]

John: Absolutely! Yes. And this is something that they’ve been working on for a very, very long time, this whole gun grab issue. Yeah, no doubt. Well I’m really glad that Dr MacDonald has agreed to join your campaign. I’ve always been very, very, impressed with his work. His book Culture of Critique was very, very, influential on my thinking, as it sounds like it has been on yours.

Paul: It has.

John: I think the issues that he addresses in that book, and the other issues that he addresses on his website, are just so important, so critical to the future of our country, to the future of our nation, to the future of our race and of our world! I mean, there’s that important! They go to the heart of what’s going on! Of what’s wrong in the world. And I think it’s absolutely essential that we start talking about these things publicly, and do so, you know, in a political way, in a political campaign. Somebody has got to stand up and say these things. And I’m so glad that you are! And there’s others that are starting do the same.

[62:44]

I think Trump has really kind of emboldened the Alt-Right and allowed more room for our ideas to gain more traction and certainly to get more coverage. We see how the media has been hysterically covering the Alt-Right, and some of these other issues that are important to the Alt-Right.

I have a question. We have to wrap up here in just a second. I’d love to do this again though.

Paul: Sure!

John: And maybe get into the details of your campaign and what exactly you’re proposing and things like that. But I think this is a pretty good sort of introductory type conversation. I want to ask you before we wrap up. Would you consider yourself like part of the Alt-Right, or like an Alt-Right political candidate? How would you address that question if like a mainstream reporter were to ask you, for example?

Paul: Sure. The problem with saying “Am I Alt right” is they want to say:

“Oh! Alt-Right equals White nationalism! White supremacist!”

And so, I don’t have a problem with somebody calling me an Alt-Right candidate. I really don’t! I don’t go around labeling myself. You know, I label myself as a Christian, and I label myself as White, pro-White. But as soon as you get off of that, into some type of lingo that people aren’t really aware of, I probably need to have an elevator speech that says:

“Yeah, I’m fine with being called Alt-Right, if this is your definition of Alt-Right.”

And give a fifteen second rendition of what that means. I guess, to distill it to it’s essence, it’s a pro-White candidate. And so yes, all day, every day, I will admit to being a pro-White candidate.

[64:49]

John: Well, very good! It’s about time we had at least one pro-White candidate out there representing our interests, and bringing up some of these topics! And I think that’s a very good! And I’m very encouraged. I mean, really like the way things are going politically I think things are definitely moving in our direction. Maybe not as quickly as some of us would like, but these things do take time.

And I think your campaign and the issues that you’re raising, the topics that you’re bringing up are so vital, so important! And I think you’re doing a great job representing them, and championing them, and explaining them to people! And I certainly wish you the best of luck in the campaign, and again, I’d really like to do this again and kind of get into more details, of what it is exactly you’re proposing.

Paul: Sure.

John: I think we could do a whole podcast, just kind of focusing on that., because we really didn’t get a chance to get into all the issues that are important to your campaign. We talked about them kind of broadly, but I think it would be good to talk about them in some more detail. So Paul, …

Paul: That sounds great.

John: Yeah! Man, thank you so much! I’m really glad that you reached out I’m glad that we finally connected. We’ll have to stay in touch and definitely do this again man.

Paul: Okay, great. Keep up the great work with your website, your writing, and your podcasts. I really appreciate it.

John: Thank you! I appreciate that as well. I will definitely be in touch, and I will send you a link to this podcast, once it’s up on the website.

Paul: And I’ll put it up. Thanks sir.

John: Okay, thank you very much. I will talk to you real soon.

Paul: Okay, God bless.

[66:19]

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13 COMMENTS

aj

March 14, 2018 2:32 pm

Great program, John. Thanks to you both. Paul is a force. Hope we can support his effort.

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- Realist Report
  
  March 14, 2018 7:35 pm
  
  Thanks aj! Paul is the man!
  
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Phil

March 15, 2018 6:50 pm

Hello John!

I was disappointed to find out that your TalkShoe page was gone when I checked in to see if a new Realist Report episode was uploaded. My first thought was your account was shoah’d due to pressure from the “usual suspects” like many dissident pages and sites as of late. Luckily I still have all your old shows archived on a flash drive.

Btw, I’ve been a listener to TRR right from the beginning (2011-2012) when you first started doing the program. I’m especially looking forward to listening to this one with Paul Nehlen!

Keep up the great work!

Phil from N.J.

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- Realist Report
  
  March 15, 2018 8:15 pm
  
  Thanks man! Yeah, TalkShoe booting me has caused some problems, as that was my primary archive of all of my podcasts. Even the way I upload them to this website was impacted… Some of my really old podcasts I may not be able to recover unfortunately. I would recommend subscribing to the podcast RSS feed directly from TheRealistReport.com. They should automatically download if you subscribe.
  
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  - Tucker
    
    March 16, 2018 10:12 pm
    
    John, I have a folder set aside for the downloads of your radio shows and it has 167 mp3 files in it. Doing a quick scan of this folder, the oldest shows I see date back to 2013.
    
    If you have a mailing address, I can burn all 167 of these mp3s to a DVD or two and drop the DVD in the mail.
    
    In the future, I would strongly recommend that you purchase a high capacity external USB drive or two, and get a copy of a product called Acronis True Image 2018. I have been using Acronis for years and highly recommend it. It allows you to create a backup image of a hard drive, or, of selected files and/or folders – and then store the image to an external drive. For simple disaster recovery – in situations where your C: drive goes bad, Acronis can be used to restore your entire O/S and all associated applications to the new replacement drive. This is a huge time saver – and is far faster and less tedious than to have to reinstall Windows and then each individual third party application.
    
    Acronis Images can also be ‘mounted’ as though they were a disk drive, and then browsed if you wish to locate a particular file or folder – and then you can simply copy the needed file or folder over to a spot where it can be accessed.
    
    Also, with the cost of large capacity USB drives coming down – it makes perfect sense for people who are active in the pro-White community to perform their own backups and not rely upon the ‘Cloud’ scam, which I suspect is being controlled by the NSA.
    
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    - Realist Report
      
      March 17, 2018 7:32 am
      
      Sweet! Shoot me an email and I’ll send you my mailing address.
      
      Reply
      - Tucker
        
        March 18, 2018 11:02 pm
        
        What is your email address?
      - Realist Report
        
        March 18, 2018 11:08 pm
        
        Check the Contact page.
katana

March 17, 2018 7:14 am

The Realist Report Interviews Paul Nehlen – Mar 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

https://katana17.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-realist-report-interviews-paul-nehlen-mar-2018-transcript/

John Friend of The Realist Report interviews Paul Nehlen, a candidate running against supercuck Paul Ryan in his home State of Wisconsin. Paul describes his background as someone who has worked their way up from the shop floor, to engineer, and manager of many manufacturing businesses in the States and worldwide. He goes on to describe his awakening to race realism, and more recently, and most importantly, his red-pilling on the role of organized jewry and their genocidal intentions against the White race — KATANA.

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- Nick Dean
  
  March 19, 2018 12:46 pm
  
  Thank you as always, Katana.
  
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Jim Somers

March 18, 2018 9:24 pm

Hi John. Thanks for doing the Paul Nehlen show. His work is very important for humanity, especially for us white Christians. I hope to God he wins the election. I have been experiencing what must be a virus, if it is not due to spying and censorship. On sites like yours, often what I write will be spontaneously deleted while writing. I have no control over it. It just happened five minutes ago here on this site. What I was writing then was a much more hard core exposure of why it is us that the tribe is trying to make extinct. And about this much was written, and BOOM! Gone just like that! I just read that microsoft is expected to start doing what facebook and twitter etc. have been doing. Anyway, lets hope and pray that Nehlen makes it.

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Michael Creighton

March 25, 2018 11:15 am

Paul. Luther is part of the problem and helped destroy Christendom. https://youtu.be/Z7zhGJH-y2o

Regards, MAC

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- Nick Dean
  
  March 26, 2018 11:06 am
  
  MAC, our problem is not religious in nature. Race-replacement is a biological process. A new Christendom still exists wherever actually believing Catholic Christians predominate, and that’s principally Africa and Asia – go there if you want to enjoy just what you say Luther destroyed. I think you’ll find Catholic Christianity isn’t the solution to our key problem, but White people enjoying self-rule is.

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The Realist Report Interviews Alfred Schaefer – April 2017 — TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report Interviews Monika Schaefer – May 2017 — TRANSCRIPT

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[This twelve-minute video gives an overview of the statements of various front-men, overwhelmingly jewish, that publicly promote the “unconventional” genocide of Whites. The ongoing genocide is “unconventional” in the sense that it is not being carried out, yet, by outright blood-letting, as in massacres, but instead by stealth, by psychological warfare that has been going on for many generations now. The genocidal program is being carried out by driving White birthrates below replacement levels, through many methods, such as the promotion of selfish individualism, etc,. Organized jewry did major blood-letting through it being the architect of World War I and II, the “Russian Revolution“, and so many other wars.

The psychological warfare inflicted on Whites through long-term jewish control of media, etc., has mentally softened Whites up with feelings of guilt, to the degree that most Whites are willingly surrendering their lands and people to being invaded by the Third World, that given enough time will completely dominate and finally destroy White societies.

The video ends with a psychological call to arms. Whites need to wake the hell up to what is happening to them and identify the enemy, organized jewry. “Yes Virginia, it’s the f*cking jews!“, and do something about it. If we don’t, then we will be destroyed by the “architects” — KATANA.]

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White Genocide

Explained by Its

Architects

Published on April 24, 2017

TRANSCRIPT

(12:22 mins)

[00:00]

Rabbi: The Messiah will return only once Edom — Europe, Christianity — will be totally destroyed.

So I ask you: Is it good news that Islam invades Europe? It is excellent news! It means the coming of the Messiah. Excellent news.

Gregor Gysi: There has to be a legal [unbureaucratic] way to get asylum in Europe. Countries like Poland — very Catholic by the way — have to be willing to accept [more] refugees.

Oh, and by the way: Every year more native Germans die than there are born.

That is very fortunate. It’s because the Nazis are not very good at having offspring. This [decline of Germans] is why [we] are so dependent on immigration from foreign countries.

See you at the protest. Goodbye!

David Duke: And communist Jews on the other side, supported Marxism. We knew, …

Alex Jones: So everything is the jews fault? Do you really believe that?

David Duke: It’s not all the Jew’s fault. But you got to understand, they have, they have a complete domination of our media, our academia. They have a complete…

Alex Jones: All right. David Duke, is our guest if you have just tuned in.

Anetta Kahane: And we see this that the history of Europe with this long history of nationalism and small countries is now and it is now getting into a crisis. So immigration is the future! You cannot work and live in a globalized world — in the middle of the world in Europe — without immigration and moving populations.

Male: Guess who’s at it again? [with heavy sarcasm] Those Jews!

Noel Ignatiev: Whiteness is not a culture. It’s not a religion. It’s not a language. It’s simply an oppressive social category. There can be no White race! The task is to bring this minority together in such a way that it makes it impossible for the legacy of Whiteness to continue to reproduce itself.

Stephan Molyneux: And the people, you know, the people who like, “the jews” and, oh my god!

Oh, people! If you don’t, like if you don’t understand IQ and it’s role in society you’re really just flying blind. And I can understand how people could come up with some pretty negative opinions of the jews. But it’s just kind of silly!

And so the idea that there’s some weird conspiracy, it’s just bizarre!

Barbara Spectre: At this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural, and I think we’re gonna be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place.

Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make.

They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.

Pat Condell: Apparently jews are responsible for all kinds of horrible things, including 9/11— that goes without saying — and even the curse of multiculturalism. That’s right! All those jews who are being driven out of Europe by hate filled Muslim immigrants are actually victims of a jewish plot to destabilize the world, so that they can control it, I guess. I don’t know I’m a little light on the details, but then most people are. For Hamas, the enemy is not Israel, the enemy is jews. If you support Hamas you support people who want to exterminate jews, not for being Israelis, but for being jews!

And you support a culture where jew hatred is bred right into the children. I hope you’re proud of yourselves.

Interviewer (male): I can hear people saying:

“Hang on a minute! Our population has increased by two, three, four million since the Eastern Bloc became free. How many more people can a small island take?”

That is the question on many people’s lips.

George Soros: Yes, but you also have a declining birthrate and you need for a flourishing economy, you need some growth and it has to be replaced by migrants from outside. So, they is a need for migrants.

[04:19]

Andrew “Weev” Auerheimer: So we get Jews and they change the immigration policies and they xxx? The Middle East and then they bring these refugees from violent, you know, war ridden places — where they invented the wars in the first place — and they created a very, … They worked very hard, spent a lot of money on creating this very, this viral, a very aggressive Islam. It is really, you know, you look at places the are worn-torn, you look at them in the seventy’s, things weren’t that bad. Iran was liberalized, you know, Syria was beautiful and perfect. And it’s all a plot, they see it as a way, you know, to damage the West and make it more controllable.

You can see it today right now. George Soros was just caught. He was paying the Albanians to set up a color revolution in Macedonia. Like you have this jewish capitalist billionaire and he’s handing out money to people that are trying to overthrow a Christian government. Like this is the reality of Islamic terrorists, that from the very beginning it’s been funded by jewish billionaires!

Gavin McInnes: And as straight man standing here with a gay man, I would just like to say:

“Fuck you, Islam!”

Steve Gutow: There are two issues at the top of our agenda at the very moment. One is the unbelievably important immigration debate in this country. To make sure that immigrants from around the world, particularly those south of our border, have a chance here.

The twelve million or the thirteen million that live here and do work and aren’t really going home, that they have a chance to stay here justly! And as legal immigrants. And that debate is so important, so we have an entire program called “Immigration Nation” and we’re trying to make sure that the jewish community really steps up to the plate and that the xxxx interfaith community.

Infowars interviewer: “England Rising UK” says:

“What is your opinion on jewish influence in the media?”

There it is.

Paul J Watson: There’s the jew question.

Infowars interviewer: Yep. There it sits.

Paul J Watson: People who are obsessed with jews controlling the world, never seem to present any evidence! I mean, I read the news everyday, I track narratives the mainstream media comes out with and I don’t believe in this jewish conspiracy, because nobody presents any real, credible, hardcore evidence that is taking place.

Nick Griffin: The godfather of the European Union, Richard Coudenhove Kalergi published the plan for a united Europe and the ethnocide of the peoples of Europe. The encouragement of mass non-White immigration was central to the plot. Since then an unholy alliance of leftists, capitalists, and Zionist supremacists, have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation with the deliberate aim of the breeding us out of existence in our own homelands. As indigenous resistance to this human genetic modification industry grows, the criminal elite seeks new ways to camouflage their project.

First their immigrant pawns were “temporary guest workers”. Then it was a “multi-racial experiment”. Then they were “refugees”. Then the answer to a “shrinking population”. Different excuses, different lies! But asylum is just another one!

But the real aim stays the same: The biggest genocide in human history! The “Final Solution” of the “Christian European Problem“!

This crime demands a new set of Nuremberg Trials, and you people will be in the dock!

MEP (female): Mr President, I’m really ashamed of the racist and xenophobic terms that were used by Mr Griffin. And my only question to him is, if he dared to make any concrete suggestions and amendment to the legislation, is your policy serious? Or are you just shouting? And I hope you will not be reelected if you seek reelection, because it’s a shame for this parliament, the kind of a statement you just made.

Nick Griffin: It is you the is shouting, because obviously the truth hurts! Yes, I will be seeking reelection. Yes, I hope to return here to speak up for the indigenous Europeans, which the founder of this place has deliberately set out to wipe out. Because that is a crime! I’m telling the truth.

I have a constructive suggestion to help those poor asylum seekers from Africa. Yes make it clear they can’t come here, so they don’t try to cross the sea and drown in huge numbers! The best way for them is to get the banks off the backs of their countries, so they can live in peace in their countries, and we Europeans can live in peace in ours. Thank you.

[09:09]

News reader (male): To Libya now. You know, say what you will about Moammar Gadhafi — he is still on the loose, by the way — but during his decades in power Gadhafi kept a lid on his country’s Islamic extremists. How? Easy! Islamic radicals were thrown in prison! You will remember this from Wednesday. Anti-Gadhafi rebels freed a prison in Tripoli.

Today CNN has learned that among those liberated inmates, are hundreds of men who are believed to be supporters of Al Qaida. They’re now on the loose. The man who uncovered this story is CNN terrorism analyst Paul Cruickshank, who has been into that prison in the past, joins us live from London. Paul give us details on just who he is now free in Libya.

Paul Cruickshank: Well, what we’re hearing Drew is that up to six hundred prisoners from the prison are believed to be pro-Al Qaid militants. So people who were imprisoned there by Gadhafi, who’ve been there for several years, …

Alice Hibbert: British Prime Minister David Cameron has promised more financial aid to Libya’s new rulers on a visit to Tripoli. He’s there with French President Nicolas Sarkozy in support of the regime their warplanes helped put into power! Xxxx [reporter (female) ] keeping us abreast of developments, joins me live now from Tripoli.

Reporter (female): Here in Tripoli both Sarkozy and Cameron have announced that they will continue helping the rebels, particularly Nicolas Sarkozy has said that NATO will continue bombing Libya and military facilities here in Libya, until the rebels take control over the whole the country.

Narrator: After Gaddafi’s overthrow the participation of some European countries, grow the flow of refugees absolutely uncontrolled.

Gadhafi: People from NATO, … Listen to me! You bomb the wall which didn’t pass a migration stream to Europe! This wall which stopped Al Qaeda terrorists. Libya was this wall!

You have ruined it. You’re idiots!

Nicolas Sarkozy: What is the goal? It’s going to be controversial. The goal is to meet the challenge of racial interbreeding. The challenge of racial interbreeding that faces us in the 21st Century.

It’s not a choice, it’s an obligation. It’s imperative! We cannot do otherwise. We risk finding ourselves confronted with major problems.

We MUST change; therefore we WILL change. We are going to change. ALL at the same time! In business, in administration, in education, in the political parties. And we obligate ourselves as to results.

If this volunteerism does not work for the republic, then the State will move to still more coercive measures.

YOUR GOVERNMENT & MEDIA ARE AGAINST YOU. AS LONG AS THE MASSES DON’T KNOW WHO IS ORCHESTRATING THIS, IT WILL CONTINUE.

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The Realist Report Interviews Monika Schaefer – May 2017 — TRANSCRIPT

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[ John Friend of The Realist Report interviews German-Canadian activist Monika Schaefer on her awakening to the destructive activities of organized jewry and its ongoing plan of genocide against Whites. Having spent her entire adult life involved in various environmental causes it was only in the last few years that she became aware that 9/11 was an “inside job” carried out by organized jewry.

One thing led to another, and she then became aware of revisionism and that the “Holocaust” is a diabolical hoax perpetrated by the usual suspects against Germans in particular and Whites in general.

She went public with her views in June 2016 with the release of a short video titled, “Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust“. Despite being a prominent, well-respected individual of long-standing in the “Gingerbread Town” of Jasper, Alberta, she has faced social ostracism and a process of “ritual defamation” from leading members of the community — KATANA.]

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The Realist Report

On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined by Monika Schaefer, a courageous activist and truth-seeker openly exposing the fake Jewish “Holocaust” narrative and other extremely controversial topics. Monika’s brother, Alfred, was recently a guest on The Realist Report.

In this podcast, Monika and I discuss her background, education, and upbringing before moving on to address her awakening process to the lies endlessly promoted and perpetuated by the mainstream mass media, Hollywood, modern educational establishment and virtually all Western governments pertaining to the alleged Jewish “Holocaust” during WWII. Monika gives us her take on the fake “Holocaust” narrative and offers her perspective on Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany.

We also address a number of other important topics in this podcast, including the reality of Jewish power and influence in the Western world, the systematic promotion of policies designed to genocide the White race, 9/11 and the “Global War on Terror,” and related matters.

Check out Monika’s website and her great video Sorry Mom, I was wrong about the Holocaust:

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https://therealistreport.com/the-realist-report-monika-schaefer/

DOWNLOAD AND LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW HERE:

https://ia601502.us.archive.org/28/items/MonikaSchaefer/Monika%20Schaefer.mp3

The Realist Report

Interviews

Monika Schaefer

Published on May 17, 2017

TRANSCRIPT

(89 mins)

[00:55]

John: All right folks, welcome back to another edition of The Realist Report. This is your host John Friend. The website is The Realist Report dot com, where you can find an extensive archive of these podcasts, as well as other radio broadcasts I’ve participated in. You can also find all of my articles and blog posts, a contact page with my personal email address, my Twitter feed — which is embedded on the right hand side of the website, and all sorts of other useful information and links. I am a regular reporter for American Free Press, America’s last real paper. And I also contribute to the Barnes Review, a bi-monthly history magazine, affiliated with American Free Press. Both publications are worth subscribing to and I highly encourage listeners to do so, if they are not already. Visit American Free Press dot net and Barnes Review dot org, for more details.

All right, with that said, I’d like to introduce my special guest this evening. Monika Schaefer is joining us for the very first time. Monika is a courageous activist and truth seeker who has openly and quite publicly challenged a number of taboo topics in modern Western society, including the fake jewish “Holocaust” narrative, which is endlessly promoted and perpetuated by the educational, media and political establishment, here in the West.

Monika, thank you so much for joining me! How are you this evening?

Monika: Hello John! Thank you so much for having me on! And I am doing very well, thank you, very much. And I honestly thank you for all the good work you do! Yeah, I’ve been listening to your podcasts for a while and reading some of your articles. And I think you do excellent work!

See here for the interview with Alfred Schaefer.

John: Thank you very much, I really appreciate it. And, you know, it’s funny I feel like I know you although we’ve never actually spoken. Maybe it’s, because I’ve interviewed your brother Alfred a couple times now, here on The Realist Report? And I’ve seen some of your video, a couple which we’ll talk about in this podcast. Yes, but I don’t know, I just have this strange feeling that somehow we know each other but, I know we actually don’t. So, it’s great for you to finally be here and, you know, we can kind of get to know each other in real life I guess, or at least over the Internet, as best we can.

Monika: Yes, and I had that sensation too! Yes, that’s right, just from listening to your talk with a number of people and so, it does feel like we know each other probably, because we’re on the same page on a lot of these issues, I think.

John: Yes, I think so. And your brother’s always great talking to. I actually recently interviewed him just a couple of weeks ago. And we dealt with a number of topics that I’m sure we’ll be getting into, in this podcast. So I guess, just to get started, could you tell us a little bit about your background, your education and your upbringing. And perhaps, maybe your professional experience, if you feel that is relevant. Let’s kind of start there, just kind of introduce yourself, please.

[04:27]

Monika: Sure. I grew up in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada and my parents came from Germany in the early 50’s. And I was born in 1959, the fourth in a family of five children. And we grew up in a very, I would say, traditional German household, you know, the way we celebrated certain times of year, in a very German style. Like Christmas we had the real candles on the tree and that kind of thing.

And something that I really feel, that affected us deeply was our parents’ love of nature. Even though we grew up in the city we were very, very connected to the natural world. We had a huge vegetable garden always, and we put great value on going for walks, like as a family. We would go for walks in the river valley and just really appreciate nature. That went very, very deep.

Transcripts of Red Ice Radio’s interview are here: Part I and Part II

And yeah, as I was growing up, learning in school, the usual things that we were learning in those days, in the sixties and seventies. And I had, like Germar Rudolf — and you interviewed him recently — and he talks about his very developed sense of justice. I could relate to that when he spoke of that. I feel that applies to me, too. I started to become an activist in environmental things and social justice things, very, very early in my life. Like during my teen years. And then all through my adult life I was very much an activist. And it was always on environmental things and also peace issues.

But, I have to say it wasn’t until about 2011, I started to really understand how the world was working. But before that, I’ll just talk a little bit about my activism. I actually did get involved in politics. I ran as a candidate for the Green Party of Alberta first and then the Green Party of Canada, in several elections. I just felt that the Green Party was the one political party whose principles and values meshed with my own!

But that has now changed drastically! In fact, Elizabeth May, the leader of the Green Party Canada, she did a very public condemnation of me last summer, after my video! And this is why we’re talking today, you and I, on this podcast. The video that I created, and my brother produced it, is called, “Sorry Mom I was Wrong About the Holocaust”. And it’s a very short video, under six minutes. And in it I basically tell the world that the “Holocaust” is a lie! And that unleashed a set of events in my life that basically has changed my life! [laughing]

Elizabeth May’s betrayal of her stated “principles” (click image to enlarge)

John: Yes, I can only imagine. You know, real quick, I hate to interject, but let me just make two brief comments. Number one, I actually have never interviewed Germar Rudolf.

Monika: Oh!

John: Although I would love to, I would really like to. I just, I never have. I’ve heard him be interviewed a number of times. I know he’s been on Dr David Duke’s program every once in a while. I’ve also heard him interviewed on Jeff Rense’s radio program I believe, and Red Ice Radio.

Monika: It was the Red Ice Radio.

John: Yeah OK.

Monika: I mean, you know, I was mixed up John.

John: No, no, it’s totally fine. I just wanted to state that for the record. I’ve never interviewed him although I would love to. I think we’d have a great conversation, he’s really, I mean, the expert when it comes to the “Holocaust”.

One other comment I wanted to make; you had said how you, ever since you were a child really, and it’s probably a result of your upbringing, but also maybe something innate in you. You have this very, deep sense of truth and justice, and you just sort of want what’s right. And want to pursue the truth wherever it leads. And that’s exactly the type of person that I am! It’s maybe hasn’t been the wisest thing to do, considering the world we live in. But it’s just something that I just have to do.

Again I think it’s something that is innate in myself, in maybe certain other people, like yourself. Do you think that this is something that’s maybe more prevalent in certain people, or something that’s kind of instilled, or innate again in certain people, rather than others?

[09:47]

Monika: Oh my goodness, that’s a big question! I think a lot of people have this sense of justice and wanting to do what’s right. Perhaps some of that gets, I don’t know, squelched out of us. Maybe it’s in our education system and it’s a very demoralizing education system that we have. And there are certain things that create, well, or work towards “anti-creative zombism” if you want to call it that, in our education system. That maybe kicked that out of us? But anyway, … I think a lot of people power have it but we are fed wrong information, then we can’t even seek justice. We don’t know what justice is!

And so, psychological warfare is something that I do want to talk about. And that is the most dangerous weapon being used against us and that can ruined any, you know, sense that we can seek justice. People can still have that desire for who are doing what’s right and doing what’s just.

But what I’m experiencing, for example, in this “ritual defamation” that’s being done against me, is that probably a lot of people who are treating me very badly, think that they are doing the right thing! Some of them probably know very well that they are not and that they are actually, you know, deceivers and liars, but I think a lot of the people just get swept along, thinking that they are being righteous, when they are treating me badly, because I have done a “taboo” thing and that is, I have challenged this story, the “Holocaust” myth.

Elements of a Ritual Defamation (click image to enlarge in new window)

John: Yeah, I think so. And I think certainly our modern hyper-capitalistic, hyper-individualistic society, you know, it doesn’t reward this sort of behavior this sort of sense of honor and truth and justice. You’re not going to get very far if you’re this type of person, at least it seems like it. The system is kind of designed that way, any ways. There certainly are exceptions and it’s not impossible to operate in a system and still have this sense of truth and justice. But it does make things very challenging. And so, that’s one point.

Then also, I think you’re right as far as, you know, sort of psychological warfare is concerned. I think there is an attack on our minds and really, you know, the way the media works and the way the educational system works. It’s designed to attack this and to undermine this. And it’s very sad! It’s very, very harmful, it’s been very detrimental to our society, certainly.

Monika: Absolutely! I mean, I think that the teachers in the schools, when they are teaching wrong things to the children, the teachers just don’t know that. They are also indoctrinated and mind contaminated by the books that they have read and by the education they received. So it’s generation after generation that gets deceived. But that is the worst weapon of all, because what happens is we become agents of our own destruction.

And that is something that is written in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. That the “goy” will become, “agents of their own destruction”. And that is just the most tragic aspect of all of this! It’s a much worse enemy to have, you know, psychological warfare and the “chameleon within the gate”. You know, that is destroying us, within our own societies by giving the wrong curriculum and bad curriculum and teaching the wrong things to the children. Teaching lies, basically. That’s a much more dangerous enemy then the enemy comes with the cannons or the guns and the open warfare. I mean, that might be destructive in the moment and it might lead to the death of people and destruction of places, however, people can recover from that.

Now with psychological warfare, that’s difficult, really. Can we recover from that when we have been so misled and contaminated and our minds have been polluted and our spirits have been crushed?

[14:43]

John: Indeed. That is very well said. You’re totally right about that.

And the last part I did, I spoke with Pete Papaherakles, and we were talking about the “Trivium” of education. And, you know, basic logic and critical thinking. And sadly our society these days, people just really don’t know how to use their brain. They don’t know how to evaluate information. They don’t know how to discover what the truth actually is. And that’s really a big problem! It’s that, you know, you try to talk about a subject like the “Holocaust”, for example, and you just ask someone, … And this is what I do regularly, you know, when this comes up, like in a personal conversation, or like, if I’m talking to a friend, or something, I’ll just say:

“Why do you believe the ‘Holocaust’ narrative”?

I mean, what evidence and proof is there to demonstrate that this actually happened? Let’s examine that evidence and see if it stands up to scrutiny. And, you know, it’s very difficult for people to do these, like simple things. And I think there’s reasons for that. I think, you know, most people again, simply really don’t know how to think critically and use their brain to evaluate information.

But also, I think a lot of the, … Certainly when it comes to the “Holocaust”, but also other very traumatic events, game changing events in our history, but especially the “Holocaust”, the propaganda used to promote, to perpetuate this myth, is very exploitative. And it really is a form of psychological warfare, you know, again another topic we can talk about, and a topic that I spoke with your brother about.

The Trivium Method Summary Chart (click image to enlarge)

So I mean, I think there’s multiple factors at play here, but those are really the two main ones. As you know, most people simply just don’t know how to properly use their brain, to use the “Trivium”, to use critical thinking. And also the propaganda associated with a lot of these events is systematically designed to exploit us on very base emotional and psychological levels.

Monika: Yes! You’re hit the nail on the head. So it not only are people not able to use logic, but this subject is absolutely taboo to even question. So, I’ve had people tell me, even if they were trying to remain friendly to me, they would say:

“Well Monika, this topic is it just off-limits! I’m not going to discuss the ‘Holocaust’ with you! I’m not going to debate it with you! But I’ll still, you know, be your friend.”

But I mean, those people, they kind of go by the way side anyway. They’ve been more and more affected in this small town of 5,000 people. It has gotten worse, not better, over the year. But this topic is, … You just cannot debate it! Because we’ve been trained that if you even question it, then you are automatically “a hater”!

I mean, this is bizarre! There is no logic in that, John! Like, how can that even make sense, that if you say that there was no deliberate extermination plan, and that means less people died, that you are a hater! ? Now to me, that is the most bizarre leap of logic, you know? Can you explain that?

John: No you can’t explain it logically, because it’s not a logical argument. It’s a ridiculous argument and there’s no logic involved at all. It’s all pure emotion, all emotion.

Monika: Yes, that’s right.

John: And that’s the thing, that especially the holocaust. But I mean, other events as well, 9/11, for example. Although I do think that the fake “Holocaust” narrative and, you know, World War Two generally, you know, this idea that Hitler was this evil monster, who wanted to take over the world. And he had, you know, his master race and all this other nonsense. This is really, you know, sort of the most taboo and most controversial topic in all of society.

And, of course, it relates directly to jews, so if you start talking about Jews your equated with Hitler, you’re equated with the Nazis and you’re a racist, you’re anti-Semitic and all these other weaponized buzzwords are thrown at you. Again, logical fallacies, all of them! You know, none of this is factual.

Monika: All of it!

John: Yeah, exactly!

[19:23]

Monika: It’s the biggest weapon yet! I mean, if it wasn’t for this success this big, huge, mess of the “Holocaust”, there’s no way they would have had the audacity to do something like 9/11.

And 9/11, I mean, that was actually what triggered me to wake up! And it didn’t happen right away. I kind of knew something was wrong with it, but it wasn’t until about ten years after 9/11, that I started to investigate it and figure it out. And that was a really hard door to go through, because it just meant that, they’re lying to us! Like that’s a huge thing to lie about, right?

That’s not just a little money scandal. I mean, you always hear about little scandals, this and that, that seem big when they talk about them, like political scandals. But, you always just think, okay, well, they have corruption in this and that, but you just can’t imagine they would lie about something so big. But once you figure that out, that turns your world upside down!

Organized jewry Did 911

And it was after that, that I started to figure out the “Holocaust”. And at first I really resisted it. I mean, that just, how could there be such a big lie? How could that be?

And just to go back to what I briefly said in my video. It was an apology to my parents. To my mother in particular. Because when I was a teenager, and again this comes back to this deep sense of justice that I had, and we were learning all those horrors about Hitler and the “Holocaust”. And so, there I was, telling my mother, saying things like:

“Mom, why didn’t you stop this from happening? If you had just got together with all your friends and your relatives, you could have done something about it!”

I mean, that was ridiculous, to say such a thing! But there I was, holding her to account, you know, she was culpable! And I’m sure that there was a whole generation of us that, you know, it caused a real generation gap. A rift between the generations of Germans. That, oh! These parents of ours, or the grandparents, oh, they were monsters, you know! Like this what happened.

And so, there I was, reprimanding, or holding her to account for not having tried to do more! I mean, she was just a teenager in a war anyway, so that was pretty ridiculous just on that count. And then all these years later, and this is after both parents have died, that I figured it all out and I just regretted that so much! And I told Alfred one day on the phone, I said:

“Boy, I wish I could say sorry!”

And he just grabbed onto that and said:

“Oh! Yes! That’s very significant!”

Yes, so then, …

John: “That’s the video we’re making right there! Do it!”

Monika: Yeah, exactly!

John: Well, you know, speaking of your video. At least on Alfred’s channel, I don’t know if this is, I’m sure it’s been viewed on other channels. I’m sure you can find this exact same video on other channels. But just on his channel alone, it’s been viewed over 130,000 times! So this has made quite an impact. And this was, June 17th, 2016. So, a little under a year ago.

And it’s a short, very powerful video. I’d assume most people listening to this podcast have seen the video, but if you haven’t, I will have a link to it. In fact, I just embed it in this post, you’ll find it right on my website. It’s six minutes total, just under six minutes. Take the time to watch it. It’s very good, it’s very powerful, it’s very just straightforward and like, look “Sorry Mom, I was wrong and here’s why. And here’s why it’s important!” And it’s very good. And yeah I just really like this video, especially when it first came out. And again, it made quite a splash, you know, all these waves, …

Monika: Yeah, It struck a chord John, because there are other people who went through that similar experience. Like what I said, that they were disgusted with their parents’ generation. Which is just such a sad thing that has been done to the German people.

Okay, about the video, you mentioned, that this is just on Alfred’s site. You’re right there’s a lot more views even then that. Because I made a German version, an original German version, I speak German fluently. So that is called, “Entschuldigung Mama, ich hatte Unrecht was den Holocaust betrifft” in case you have German listeners. So you could look that up too.

And then also the English version was translated into three languages, within the first four days. Not that we did this, others did this. So, French Spanish and Swedish, I believe. And then these people sent us the links to those at the time. People are just kind of, … Like I say, it really struck a chord. It was just brief, it’s short, so it’s easy to watch and this thing, you know, about the parents and just saying sorry to Mom, you know, reprimanding her for not doing anything to stop these things! And then figuring out it’s all a lie! Oh my goodness!

John: Now, I’m curious. There’s quite a substantial population of Germans in Canada, correct? That came over right after the war?

[25:02]

Monika: Definitely! Yes. Lots of Germans in Canada.

John: I’d imagine, maybe even more so, than that came here to America. I don’t know that for sure, but it seems like there’s quite a few that came over directly after the war?

Monika: Yes. Yes and through the fifty’s too. When my parents came I think there were a lot of people coming from Germany. And my parents came in 1951 and 52, respectively. Yes, I think that’s a lot of people left Germany. I mean, Germany was destroyed and also you had the expellees from the eastern territories. The eastern, you know, like Sudentenland, East Prussia. All these different territories that were German for hundreds of years and then, you know, Germany got shrunk after World War One. And World War One led directly to World War Two. These are things have learning a lot about now. I’m really going on a big education, a big learning curve. And I met some of those expellees, people who were forcibly expelled. And this is a story that we certainly did not learn about in school. I think probably a lot of your listeners do understand about this, but millions of Germans died AFTER World War Two was over!

German territory lost in the 20th century (click image to enlarge).

And many of them died as they were being pushed out of those eastern territories. And many were murdered, many starved, many women and girls, you know, many young girls up to old women were raped. It was brutal what they went through. And I met a few German expellees who were children at the time — when I went to Toronto last summer to speak there — and I have to say that was just so impacting on me. I mean, it was a very impactful experience for me to meet these people!

John: Right, I can imagine. Now, of course, you had mentioned you guys weren’t really taught anything like this. This perspective, the German perspective of World War Two? I’m assuming anyways, when you’re growing up in Canada, your parents didn’t talk about it?

Monika: Well, there were some things that my parents did talk about, but I don’t remember the stories of expellees. But what my mother did talk about, over and over again, was Dresden. She wasn’t there, but she knew all about it. And Dresden was the real “Holocaust”! The “Holocaust” of German civilians, women, children and injured soldiers there in hospitals. And also war refugees. The city had no military installations. It had no military targets there. And it had the most beautiful architecture!

And actually the German people started to believe that, oh, nobody would ever bomb the city! And it was there for most of the war. But then in February 1945, February 13th, I believe, it started, or maybe it started on the 11th, I’m not sure now [The bombing started at 10:14 pm, on Tuesday the 13th] . The bombing began and it was incendiary bombing. It was purposely to start fires. And many, many, many people died there! And then they paused [the bombing] and then people, as they were coming out of, you know, the bunkers and whatnot, if they survived at all, they were getting stuck in the molten pavement. And then the bombing started again. It was just brutal! It was pure and utter revenge and hate from the allies! And they knew this city was full of refugees and women and children, and that it was there was no military there.

John: Right.

Monika: It was absolutely a crime! And crime against humanity! And, of course, there were other cities as well which were bombed like that too. But Dresden is the one that my mother talked about when we were growing up. And yeah, I didn’t learn about the people who were expelled.

John: Well Monika, as you know, “Germany had to perish!” Which is actually the title of a book.

Monika: Yes.

John: Written by a jew! This is the thing that’s so amazing! When I was really getting into this information, it became more and more clear, the more research that I did that literally the entire official narrative of World War Two is truly the exact opposite.

Monika: Absolutely!

John: I mean, it’s very easy to demonstrate this. I mean, we have multiple sources of jewish individuals in America, in Russia, literally calling for the extermination, the annihilation, the genocide of the German nation. The destruction of the German nation, of the German people! Openly calling for this! In books they wrote, in policy papers that they, you know, put in front of governments and have them implement essentially. In propaganda, I mean, you name it, we can go on and on. There’s many sources that demonstrate this.

Monika: Yes.

John: And yet, you can’t find one single legitimate source demonstrating that Hitler, or the National Socialist government wanted to, let alone, implement it, a systematic plan to exterminate, to murder European jews! It’s just not even true at all! There’s nothing to substantiate it, aside from jewish propaganda, jewish lies.

[30:50]

Monika: Yes, that’s exactly right! Everything has been turned on it’s head! I mean, in the beginning when I was starting my learning about all of this, you know, I realized some things were upside down and turned on their head but, you know, people would say, “Yeah, everything’s on it’s head!” And I would say, well maybe that’s just a figure of speech. But it really is that way! The more I learn, the more I realize that everything is on it’s head, upside down, inverted!

But thank you for bringing up that, “Germany Must Perish” book by Theodor Kaufman. He wrote that in 1941. And it literally is a genocidal plan, where all the German people should be wiped off the face of this earth! And supposedly through a humane method of forced sterilization. Now, why I wanted to bring this up, and thank you for already bringing it into the conversation, is that I wanted to talk briefly about Arthur Topham.

Now Arthur Topham is now silenced by law! He has been sentenced after a ten-year ordeal with the criminal justice system in Canada for this spurious hate speech, under these “hate speech” laws in the Criminal Code of Canada. And he had a website called, “The Radical Press”. And it actually started out as a paper, a hard copy magazine in the late 90’s and then he went online. And it went only online for a number of years. And he it was dragged through the court system for ten years. And it was just utter harassment and basically jews who didn’t like the things that he was exposing. The truth that he was talking about and the lies that he was exposing.

Now he ended up getting convicted by a jury. Guilty on one charge and not guilty on the identical charge, but for a different time period, for publishings on his website. And in Canada the jury cannot divulge what exactly was the rationale for the guilty verdict.

But, we can surmise that it was for the parody that Arthur Topham did, called, “Israel Must Perish”. But this was not his words. What he did, is he took the book “Germany Must Perish” and he took a section of that and he duplicated it, word for word. But, he replaced the title, the word “Germany” with “Israel” and replaced “Germans” with “jews”. And basically this was drawing attention to the genocidal original book “Germany Must Perish”.

And he did make it clear that this was a satire, that the books were side by side on his website. And there was a preface that talked about satire. And this was all explained in the court. I was there for part of it, and evidently the jury was overwhelmed by, I guess, the indoctrination that we’ve all been subject to and this was all just too much for them. But he was found guilty.

Now, what I really want to tell your listeners and just make sure that this is clarified, is the lies that they now tell about Arthur Topham in the press, when he cannot defend himself. Because if he did, he would go straight into jail. He’s now on, basically house arrest. So he’s not in jail, even though he’s been sentenced. But part of the sentencing is that the website came down and he’s not allowed to speak publicly. So, when they say lies about him, for example, that they will say that Arthur Topham calls for the sterilization of jews. But [because] they don’t put it into context of this parody, this satire of “Germany Must Perish”, then that is a lie! That is an outright lie! And I want to set the record right here!

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John: You know, I’m glad you have been able to do that, because as you mentioned Arthur can’t even speak for himself. It’s ridiculous!

Monika: Exactly! So anyway thank you for the opportunity to set that straight that, you know, here they are lying about Arthur Topham when he can’t even speak in public. And they darn well know that, so it’s just absolutely malicious!

John: It truly is. And speaking of malicious activities carried out by governments against truth seekers, like Ernst Zundel, I just wrote an article for American Free Press, and it should be published — let’s see today is Wednesday — it should be published in this week’s edition. So, I think they publish on Friday, Friday morning. So it should be in the upcoming edition of American Free Press. And it’s about Ernst Zundel. Who, I’m sure you’re familiar with?

Monika: Absolutely!

John: Right. Yeah, he lived in Canada for a number of years. I’m sure most people listening here are familiar with Ernst Zundel. If you’re not, simply Google the man. He’s a legend, he’s a hero. He’s been through a lot..

Monika: Yeah, in fact, one of those three videos at the end of my six-minute video, I put three recommendations to the listener. Just, you know, I thought, OK I’ll just give the listener something that if this is all really blowing their mind, and they want to know where am I coming from, and I give three titles of videos. The first one is called, “Off Your Knees Germany!” And it’s Ernst Zundel. The story of what he went through in the courts. And it was one of the first things that kind of caught me turning my mind around the “Holocaust” story, was watching that video. It’s ninety minutes long, so an hour and a half. And I would say, you know, it’s going to be a very, very worthwhile ninety minutes.

Video: Off Your Knees Germany!

John: Right. Oh yeah, I’ve seen it. It’s great, I think I’ve watched all of the, you know, major documentaries that they put together. And they are certainly worth watching, for sure! Very eye-opening, very revealing, very informative.

And I mean, if you’re not outraged after seeing those and just understanding what they’ve gone through, you know, what Arthur Topham has gone through, what many people have gone through. People are being persecuted all over the world for challenging the fake “Holocaust” narrative! That’s absolutely ridiculous!

But speaking of Zundel, the article that I wrote was about how he was just denied entry into the United States. Was deemed inadmissible! By the United States federal government. In particular I think it was the Office of Appeals, I believe, of the Department of Homeland Security. And they cited his revisionist activities, his educational activities, his political views. Which are all very well documented and very scholarly sourced and entirely legitimate perspectives that he’s offering. And yet, he’s deemed inadmissible. Meanwhile, we have millions of illegal aliens overrunning our country. Our government is systematically facilitating refugee resettlement of people we don’t even know who the hell they are! You know, just washed up on our shores and we’re supposed to give them free everything. Free housing, free, you know, education, free health care, welfare, you name it, it’s I mean, it’s so incredible what is going on! It’s like I can’t even comprehend it sometimes.

The Washington Post: Ernst Zundel Barred from the US.

Monika: Yeah. Well, there we see the agenda of who is actually running the country. I mean, I think it was Ariel Sharon, or was it, you know, basically just said:

“Don’t worry about what Americans think about this, or that, that we are doing. We run America and they know it!”

John: Yes.

Monika: Anyway, [about] Ernst Zundel being kept out, are they actually citing his political views? Because it’s not six case then, that’s the end of the First Amendment. And then [word unclear] in the United States, freedom of speech, is it not? I think that it’s incredibly, like it’s very scary, if that’s what’s going on. The United States was still kind of, you know, we’re looking to you guys down there for keeping some semblance of being able to speak freely still. But, you know, this is really, really bad. Somebody being kept out for their political views.

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John: Yeah. Absolutely! Yeah and like this is basically openly admitted in the ruling that they released. And it’s interesting, because this was reported on by The Washington Post, back in April, almost a month ago. And in the appeal here it was essentially, he was denied entry and then they were determining if they could grant him a waiver. Which they did not. They ended up denying even a waiver. I mean it’s amazing. His wife is American. Ingrid is an American citizen and has been living here for a very long time. She lives in Seattle, I believe.

Monika: Yes. She can’t go to Germany, because she would be thrown in jail immediately there. And he can’t come to the States. So they end up going elsewhere to meet, you know. It’s really, really sad!

John: I mean, it’s very, very sad, absolutely tragic. In the ruling here they say, you know, when they go to deny the waiver, the negative factors in his case include his long history of inciting racial, ethnic, and religious hatred. It also goes on to say the record shows that the applicant, Zundel, is a historical revisionist and denier of the “Holocaust”! Distributing writings, books, tapes, videos, and broadcasts to promote his views. The record further indicates that these publications agitated for aggressive behavior against jews!

Monika: Oh my goodness!

John: Right, yeah. All of these, I mean, it’s true that he absolutely was a historical revisionist and “Holocaust denier”, I guess. I don’t really like to use that label.

Monika: Neither do I. So that basically says:

“Oh! That’s illegal in the United States!”

John: Right. Now get this. They also say this the applicant has been a leader in these activities for decades. Which is true. And has shown no regret, or remorse for his actions!

Monika: Of course, not!

John: Exactly. That’s a thing. It’s like:

“Oh maybe, perhaps, if he were to bow down to the jews, beg for forgiveness, renounce his views, say the “Holocaust” is true.”

Maybe, just maybe they would let him back in. But no. It’s so outrageous!

Monika: The thing with the laws, this is the part I am absolutely dumbfounded that people don’t wake up to this absurdity! That if there are laws to restrict you from saying certain things, then doesn’t that raise a red flag for people? Doesn’t that show them that there’s something to hide? That maybe there’s something that they’re lying about?

But no, that really gets me. I think that alone should tell people that there’s something wrong with the official story. You know, it’s exactly the opposite for some people. Because when I raise this issue about the laws, it’s incredible that some people will say:

“Well you see? See, you’re wrong! The laws prove it! You’re wrong!”

Now isn’t that bizarre? That’s kind of a circular thing, … I mean, you could make any kind of a law, like, “stop breathing” and then if you breathe:

“Oh! See! We’d better throw you in jail! You just broke the law!”

I mean, it is just that absurd!

John: I mean, I agree. It’s totally is, it’s ridiculous!

You know, Monika, I wanted to get back, … I wanted to talk about, basically, what led you to start questioning the “Holocaust”? And kind of like, your wake up process, so to speak, and maybe you could describe like some other topics that maybe you researched, or what led you to start questioning, you know, doing research into the fake “Holocaust” narrative?

Monika: Well, I have to credit my brother for basically introducing me to this notion and this idea. And so I was visiting over there [Germany] and I think, 2013, Christmas time. And this was, you know, already a couple of years after figuring out 9/11 and what a lie we have been told about that.

John: So, is it fair to say that 9/11 was like your big, sort of wake up call? What led you to question everything?

Monika: Yes.

John: Okay, and that’s exactly how I was. I mean, before I was really getting into 9/11 I was very anti-war and I totally recognized how corrupt the government was, how corrupt the media was. I knew we were being lied to. I was sort of aware of these sort of broader systemic issues. How corrupt everything was. I just didn’t really understand the extent of it. How deep it actually went and I certainly didn’t understand who was truly behind it all.

Monika: Exactly!

[45:00]

John: And once I woke up to 9/11, … Yeah and that’s seems like that’s pretty common for a lot of people. They start questioning 9/11 and then everything opens up to them.

Monika: Yes. No, that is interesting, that’s interesting about that John. And there are definitely a lot of people for whom 9/11 was that door that they first went through and then started uncovering these other truths. But, you know, in this journey of mine over this past year, many people have contacted me from all over the place and so I’ve struck up some dialogues with a lot of different people. And what has surprised me is that for quite a few people, other things woke them up.

Like, for example, some people who started learning all about our financial system and how deep and corrupt that was, because of things that happened in their personal lives that, you know, they got basically the bad end of a deal. And then they started digging and looking into that. And for others it was actually the topic of just why is everything against White people? And this is sort of the taboo subject that we could get into, but for me that was not a starting point at all. It is now what I’ve kind of come to understand is that, oh, this end goal is to basically get rid of us and replace us.

John: Right, right!

Monika: And, oh my goodness that didn’t come into my realization until well after I started figuring out all these other things. The “Holocaust” is the ultimate weapon to use against us. Because you see, there’s this thing that people will have this weird logic that says, oh well, if you are denying that this “Holocaust” happened, then the next thing that happens is you’re going to just want to kill everybody! Like you’re going to do a “Holocaust” again, or something like that. Like this is the logic that’s being used against us. So it’s the ultimate weapon! Meanwhile, it’s the opposite that is happening.

John: Yeah!

Monika: And I mean, there’s lots and lots of evidence of that. And one of the really clear quotes that I have used is Noel Ignatiev. And you probably have that on your page of quotes there., but I mean, I’ll just read this, I have it in front of me here.

Noel Ignatiev, a, quote, unquote, “respected Harvard professor”, he says:

“The goal of abolishing the White race, is, on it’s face, so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition, other than from committed White supremacists!”

OK, I finished the quote, so think about that. So, if you merely don’t want to be destroyed then you are a White supremacist! Can you imagine this being said. Japanese people who wish to see their culture and their traditions preserved and who wish to see Japanese grandchildren?

“Oh they must be Japanese supremacists!”

Or can you imagine this being said about, maybe. Let’s just pick a country and in Africa, like Senegal. The Senegalese people, if they don’t want to be destroyed:

“Oh well, they must be black supremacists!”

I mean, that’s absurd.

John: It’s truly absurd! You’re totally right. And see like a basic observation like that. It’s so obvious that what you’re saying is true. And yet this is very rarely pointed out to people. I mean, you have to point out a basic observation like to get people to start even thinking and in many cases they still can’t even do it.

Monika: Yeah. And also is this conflating of different concept. So, if you have pride in your people and you love your people, you could call it, you know, maybe nationalism, White Nationalism, or whatever., but people will instantly just say, White supremacist! And if you correct them and say, no, no, no! Like how about nationalist, or nationalism, or that you have pride. No! That’s a White supremacist! Like this is this instant leap that people will make, because they’ve been trained to make that leap. They’ve been trained by our media and all the movies and the indoctrination. I mean, that’s basically, you know, how we’ve been poisoned in the mind.

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John: Right! No, you’re right! It is a mind poisoning. You’re exactly right, that’s best way to describe it I think. Well, jews have always, jews and communists and Marxists and those are all pretty much the same thing! Because if you’re a Marxist, or a communist you’re basically, your mind has been poisoned by jews. And I mean, Marxism and communism really are in my view rational coherent political philosophies. They’re jewish schemes to destroy White Christians societies.

Monika: Yes.

John: And to take all our wealth to create this jewish plutocratic elite that dominates and controls societies. And that’s certainly what we have in the United States. But jews and communists and leftists, they’ve always tried to attack any form of White racial identity. I mean, going back to the late 100s, early 1900s. And they weren’t as successful back then, because White people were still sort of healthy, you know, spiritually. They could think properly, at least most of us. But really, I think a lot of this is a result of the fake “Holocaust” narrative! And the official narrative of World War Two. See, this is a point that I was speaking with your brother about, and I try to emphasize this, you know, when I talk about these subjects, because I think it’s so important. The official “Holocaust” narrative, and I think it’s so important to the White struggle and a lot of people dismiss this, or downplay it, or think it’s unimportant. When in my view it’s absolutely central to our struggle, dealing head on, not only with the fake “Holocaust” narrative, but all of World War Two.

The real holocaust, the fire-bombing of German cities (click image to enlarge).

Monika: Yes.

John: You know, being able to say, look, Adolf Hitler was not this evil monster, in fact, he was like the most righteous, honorable leader that we’ve seen in generations! I mean, we should be able to say that openly and proudly.

Monika: Yes.

John: And not even hesitate, not even flinch! Anyways, the point that I was trying to make is the “Holocaust” narrative discredits and truly delegitimizes White, or any form of White racial identity. And I mean, it’s not the only thing that delegitimizes and discredits White racial identity. I mean, the jews have literally pathologized White identity through Cultural Marxism. If you identify as a White person and you concern yourself with the interests of White people, broadly speaking, you’re considered this irrational bigot who hates jews and is a racist White supremacist!

Monika: Yes.

John: But a lot of this goes back to the “Holocaust”. So on the one hand it really serves to delegitimize White identity, on the other hand, it’s used to strengthen jewish identity! And there’s public opinion polls done by jews, done by, you know, sort of legitimacy organizations like, PEW research center. They do polls on jewish identity and how do jews identify, what is the central factor in jewish identity. And would you believe it’s the “Holocaust”! I mean, it really is. So it strengthens jewish identity, and it is also created this enormous economic, political and social racket! Think about all these “Holocaust” museums, think about all the money the Jews get from this fake story, think about all these fraudulent books that have been written about the “Holocaust”, all these memoirs, all these documentaries, all these Hollywood films. I mean, it truly is a gigantic racket!

Monika: Yes, John! You have hit the nail right on it’s head with what you’re saying here. So this identity thing, that is exactly right! That’s the biggest identity thing for the Jews is the “Holocaust”. But also that they have been persecuted through the ages. They’ve always been persecuted, they’ve always been, you know, a hated! This is their identity. They’re taught that from the day they’re born. And I think that most jewish people, street level jewish people kind of get a double dose of indoctrination, but this is their identity, so that’s what they are taught right from when they’re born.

I do have, you know, a very nice friend who is really trying her best to wrap her head around what I’m saying. And she asks very intelligent questions and so I take a lot of time in trying to answer her. And one of the things she says is that, you know, she has a jewish friend and has relatives that she lost in the war and so, and this thing about being persecuted. Like that is how she identifies and that is exactly it! That’s their identity. But here’s the thing that I like to tell people a little story. It’s a little allegory for this persecution. It is true that Jews have been kicked out, you know, we know it probably at least a 109 times from different countries, or regions during the last two thousand years. But there’s a missing part of the picture that we’re not taught about that.

[55:09]

So, let’s say John, you go you like to the pub quite often, the bar, and you come home one evening and you’re very upset, because the bouncer kicked you out. And I sympathize with you. And the next evening you go to another bar and then you get kicked out again, and you come home and you complain that that bouncer was just unfair as well, and, you know, and it was just completely uncalled for! And again, I might sympathize with you. And the third night go to a another pub and you’re kicked for the fourth, fifth, tenth time! Your kicked out from different places and each time you’re crying about being discriminated against! And those bouncers are treating you so unfairly! And they are just so hateful towards you. And I am getting really skeptical about what’s going on. And I might just ask you, very politely, what is it that you are doing to get yourself kicked out? And then you say, really angrily:

“Oh! Those people just hate people with”, I don’t know, XYZ “And they are all anti-XYZ!”

And then you start lobbying to make laws against anti-XYZism. And that’s basically the story!

I mean, really, can people just say, well what is it that Jews have been persecuted for, all these thousands of years? Is it maybe that they’ve been doing things wherever they go that wasn’t good? I mean, Jesus Christ kicked the moneylenders out of the temple. And I mean, one could believe that story, or not believe it, maybe it’s also a metaphor, or an allegory, but there it is. That’s the story that the money lenders were kicked out of the temple.

John: Right exactly. Well, see that’s the thing. Dealing rationally and truthfully about jews, and their agenda, and their criminal activities, and their subversive activities, I mean, this is considered anti-semitism! Like literally, telling the truth about the jews, stating basic facts as you mentioned. You know, they literally — we can document this — they literally have been thrown out of over one hundred countries, just in modern history!

Monika: Yeah!

John: Bringing this up, talking about the reality of jewish supremacy and jewish power in the United States, in the Western world in general, the reality of, you know, the Israeli occupation of Palestine. I mean, the terrorism they have committed, the false flags, and all the criminality. I mean, we can go on, and on, and on, and yet, … We could easily document all these things. In fact, what I try to do on my website, by using jewish sources, from explicitly jewish news outlets that document this, and talk about this. And in some cases brag about it. And yet if you bring it up you’re called an anti-Semite!

Monika: Yeah, isn’t that bizarre!

John: I mean, it’s like, it truly is the most Orwellian thing you could think! I mean, this is George Orwell in reality. This 1984 scenario. You can’t even tell the truth, like literally tell the truth using explicitly jewish sources, to make your point, without being demonized. It’s so childish! It’s, I mean, I don’t know it’s really puzzling to me.

Monika: Yeah. Probably most of your listeners know this, but it’s just something I learned pretty recently. But George Orwell, he was actually an M-16 agent and so he knew! And this was his warning to the world. When we read them when we were teenagers, we saw that this was just really, you know, horrific science fiction. That it had no bearing on reality, but he knew! And he was trying to give the world a warning.

John: Right. I think so. Yeah, I’ve heard that he was connected to British Intelligence, although I can’t say I’ve totally verified that for myself. Either way, the book is certainly worth reading.

Monika: Definitely!

John: Yeah, it’s good piece of literature.

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Monika: So one of the things that people always say, well, besides saying:

“We’re not going to debate this with you. And there’s no way you can’t talk about this. This is off-limits, a taboo subject”.

But, if they do say anything about it, they’ll say:

“There’s mountains of evidence! Mountains of evidence! It’s the most well documented event in the history of mankind!”

And then, they’ll also say:

“And there’s all those eyewitnesses. And what about the survivors?”

Okay. So first of all, about those “mountains of evidence”. But they don’t present those “mountains of evidence”! They just keep repeating that mantra. And then when you do look into the evidence, it’s actually the opposite.

You know, I just read a book called, “The Great Holocaust Trial” by Michael Hoffman and that is about the 1985 [trial], that’s the first of the two Ernst Zundel “Holocaust” trials that took place in Toronto, in Canada, in the 80s.

[Image] The Great Holocaust Trial by Michael Hoffman — back cover (click image to enlarge).

And I mean, reading that book, that should be mandatory curriculum in the schools! But I’m sure it would never be allowed into the schools, that book. Because what came out in that trial was just most astonishing! You know, evidence and evidence that basically the “Holocaust” did NOT happen as they say it happened! And, you know, there were reports in the media, but the thing is, even though there were reports in the media that they were reporting what was going on, and yet the way they reported it, I as a young woman in my early twenty’s at the time, it was kind of background noise for me. And I just kind of assumed that Ernst Zundel, he must be a bad man, or something. But I didn’t really pay much attention to it, and I regret to say that.

Perhaps if I had paid more attention to what they were actually saying, I might have looked into this more deeply. But, because of how they were portraying him in the mainstream media, he was just kind of a bad man in my mind. So you see, this is how they can do it. Even when they were kind of forced to report what was being brought out in the trial.

Stuff like, you know, Raul Hilberg, the main jewish “Holocaust” historian of the time. He was the main witness for the prosecution side. I mean, when it was brought into the court that there were no documents that said that there was a plan for the extermination of the jews. There was not a single document to that effect and he actually said in the court.

“That yes, it is incredible! There was some kind of ‘meeting of the minds!”

John: Exactly. So he’s literally conceding points to the revisionists, openly in court. Yeah it’s amazing! I haven’t read the book, I should. Gosh, I really should sit down and read it. I’m familiar with the book you’re talking about, by Hoffman.

Monika: Yeah. It’s easy to read, it’s very short. It’s a skinny book. A new edition came out that’s longer. I haven’t read the new editions, so I think he probably adds stuff. I’m not sure exactly. I have it in my possession, I haven’t read it yet, but maybe he adds about the next trial? I don’t know.

But then, the other part of it, about the eyewitnesses. That is just a conversation stopper, because people feel worried that they’re going to insult the memories or, you know, something about that like. That’s how we’ve been trained to just, you dare not, …

John: Disrespect the dead. Yeah, exactly! This is like a psychological aspect of the “Holocaust”. It’s the survivor testimony, as well as the photographs.

Monika: Yes! And the photographs!

John: Yes, that is what I get a lot, is, people can’t even talk about it, like, we just can’t talk about this, sorry. Or, bring up the survivors as you mentioned, or they’ll bring up the photographs.

“Oh, well, what about all these dead bodies?”

Well, how does that prove that there was a “Holocaust”? Think about it, what does that prove?

Monika: Exactly! What does that prove? How does a pile of dead bodies prove gas chambers? And secondly, who are those dead bodies? In some cases those dead bodies may not have even been, you know, jewish dead bodies. Like they might of, some of them were possibly German dead bodies after the war. Because some of these photographs didn’t come out until years after the war, so.

And I’ve seen some documentation about a lot of doctored photographs, as well. I’m not talking about the piles of dead bodies now, but I’m talking about, where two identical photos are side by side, and the one, there’s been something inserted into it. Like perhaps a hanging body and then, you know, a soldier, a German soldier standing there with a grin on his face. Something, you know, just crazy things, where they just doctored photos and made lies out of them.

[65:04]

Anyway, piles of dead bodies do not prove extermination of jews and gas chambers, especially. And then the survivors, you know, I do have actually a story about an Auschwitz survivor who lived in this little town of Jasper. And we were actually good friends. He liked music and I’m a musician and so we ended up spending times together at sing-a-longs and that kind of thing. And I invited him over to my home — this is when I still believed in the whole “Holocaust” story and I was doing, quote, unquote, “the right thing” and, you know, wanting my daughter to be educated about it and all this. And I had him and his wife over, to give that talk, because he had gone into the schools quite a lot and given that talk about his Auschwitz experience. He did have the tattooed number on his arm and everything.

Anyway, so they came over and we had a nice dinner and after dinner, cleared away the dishes, and then he read his talk and he explained that it was easier that way. So he had a prepared talk that he read, and we listened. And at the end, I just remember feeling some sense of disappointment, because I didn’t really hear any of the details about what we thought had happened in those camps. And remember this was years ago when I still fully believed in the “Holocaust”. Now I don’t think that he was ever purposefully deceiving anybody, and I think he had come to believe all those stories too. And he was a very, very good man.

He’s dead now, so I’m speaking of him in past tense. He and his wife they were lovely, lovely people, and the thing is I think he was a very honorable man, because he didn’t make up stories. So when I see I was slightly disappointed at the end the talk. Because here I had this Hollywood vision, you know, file this way, file that way. And, you know, the lineups of people and just horrible scenes, and that kind of thing. Well, he didn’t describe any of that. Well, he probably didn’t describe any of that, because he did not see that kind of thing.

So, I mean, now in retrospect, it’s just also very, very interesting for me, because I realized, well yeah, he didn’t see those things, because they didn’t happen. Those things that are, you know, Hollywood version of the “Holocaust”. And he didn’t talk about any belching chimneys, or anything like that! He just talked in more general sense of how he ended up in the camp. And he also made several times, made statements about how he did NOT come to hate the Germans — he was Polish, by the way — he did not come to hate the Germans. In fact, he married one, because his wife was a German and he met her after the war in Germany.

And he was also not jewish, so he was Polish, and I think he had worked for the underground, or something like that. And he also says that there were many other people, other than Jews in the camp. He made that very clear in his talks. So in retrospect, when I think of all those things, I think:

“Well, good on you!”

John: Right.

Monika: He told us all those things and, …

John: Well, I think you’re right. I do think that a lot of jews, a lot of quote, unquote “Holocaust” survivors, I think there are a lot of them that really do buy into the fake story that the organized jewish community has created. I mean, the origins of the story it’s really a combination of the jews, the British government, the American government. I mean, they were making up these atrocities stories about the Germans to demonize them and to garner support, you know, to go to war against them, basically. Black propaganda that became institutionalized. So a lot of these people actually do believe the stuff. But getting back to what you’re saying about this guy who was actually kind of like telling the truth, have you seen that video on You Tube called the, “’Holocaust’ survivors who tell the truth”?

Monika: I think I have, yeah.

John: It’s kind of it reminds me of what we’re explaining here. It’s so many people who are legitimate, quote, unquote, “Holocaust” survivors, they provide testimony that’s actually truthful, but basically debunks the official narrative, right? But yet they still believe in it. They talk about:

“Oh, you know, we went into we went into the gas chambers and all of a sudden there was a shower, taking a shower!”

Which is like, I mean, it’s true! Its like, sort of what happened. And a lot of this stuff, lot of the “Holocaust” mythology was basically rumors floating around.

Monika: Yes.

John: And, you know, spreading, you know, how gossip starts, rumors start! This is what it was, and this became institutionalized.

[70:15]

Monika: Absolutely! There were whisper campaigns. These were deliberately begun and deliberately spread so you could call it the “rumor mill”. You know, at that time I think they actually called them “whisper campaigns”, or something like that. And like, you mentioned the black propaganda and, yeah, that was a huge part of the war. Well, first of all you had to get the world to hate Germans and Germany. And that had been going on for decades before World War Two, already. I mean, I think already in the late 1800s, this campaign of hatred towards Germans had begun.

John: Yeah, it certainly had. Monika, we are over an hour now.

Monika: Yes. We have a limited time.

John: Yeah. We wanted to keep it to under an hour and a half. We are about an hour and ten minutes, or so, into this. I do have a couple, sort of big questions I want to ask and I think it’s probably going to take you some time to address them fully. And I definitely want you to do so. The first one is, in these first two they’re kind of related, but the first one is: Based on your research into the alleged “Holocaust” story — I should say the fake “Holocaust” story, let’s be serious, it is fake, …

Monika: Yeah.

John: What are the main conclusions that you’ve come to? Like, if you wanted to make the most important points to someone about the research you’ve done and the conclusions that you have come to. What would you tell them?

Monika: Yeah, well I think that the ultimate goal for Organized jewry, I’ll call it, like the globalists, is to rule the world! One world government! And they’ve been telling us that for quite a while, actually. I remember when I was at university in the 80’s, I remember receiving some kind of postcard, or propaganda material that actually said, “One world government” and was exposing these great ideas about just, you know, having one world government and peace, they said in this in this propaganda literature. And I have no idea who was behind this and what it was and it’s coming.

But anyway, that is the goal for the jews. To have this dominion over all the world and all the wealth, all the gold, own everything, and enslave the rest of us! And I think they want to annihilate a lot of us, and that’s, I mean, the “Holocaust”, that they call a “Holocaust” is a big part of their equation. Because it’s a weapon that you use against us when we start to point out any of the things that are going on. Like with White genocide. And when I first heard that term, I thought, “what are you talking about?” you know. But it really is the goal. And I think it’s because Europeans have stood up to the jews and that they have been the biggest obstacle to jewish domination over the years, that the European people have been able to stand up to the jews over time. And that’s why they are trying to get rid of the European people. So that would be that.

John: Right. Okay, very good. I mean, I certainly agree with you that the “Holocaust” narrative is probably the number one weapon used by the jews to advance their agenda, to advance their interests. To delegitimize our interests and, you know, to discredit the notion that we can even identify as White people and have interests.

So, I totally agree with you and I guess, just to emphasize that, I don’t understand how we could really ignore this issue. How we could ignore, or downplay the “Holocaust”, ignore, or downplay revisionism, and dealing seriously and truthfully with the “Holocaust”, with World War Two, when literally, it is constantly brought up and used by jews as a weapon against us! All day long! Every single day! I could point this out.

Gosh, I wish I had the time to do. I used to kind of do it when I was writing more of my website, but I mean, literally Monika, I’m not even exaggerating! Every day I could highlight and write a blog post, I could probably do three, or four times. Different articles appearing in the jewish press, appearing in newspapers like Times of Israel, the Jewish Daily Forward, Tablet Magazine, the Jewish Telegraph Agency. I mean, just openly talking about the “Holocaust” and using it to advance jewish interests while, again, harming our interests. I just don’t understand how it can be avoided, and I mean, I’m certainly not going to avoid it. But I would argue that it’s very central to our struggle and I think you would probably agree with me.

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Monika: Yeah. Absolutely! I mean, I’m kind of laughing at this end of it when you’re talking about it. Yes, every day. You’re right, it’s not a laughing matter. It is so, so serious. But the fact that it is twenty-four seven in all the different media. Like, whether it’s radio, whether it’s movies, whether it’s, well I don’t watch TV, but just anything! It’s always brought up even if in a movie it’s about something completely different, but somewhere in the movie the “Holocaust” will come up, or it will be invoked. And, you know, what is the most ironical thing about it, is some people when they are maybe well-meaning towards me, you know, just say:

“Look Monika, why do you dwell on this thing? That was so long ago, it’s not relevant, it’s not relevant!”

And I just, … [laughing]

John: Yes exactly! That’s what I don’t understand.

Monika: How can it not be relevant when there’s this strong reaction against me. That contradicts that statement that they’re making, that it’s not relevant. Of course, it’s relevant! If it wasn’t relevant they would never cared about my video! And I mean, that’s something that I didn’t talk very much, but I don’t want to get into that right now. But that’s this ritual defamation process. And I’ll just briefly say, like, I live in a town of five thousand and I think it’s kind of like a textbook case of where ritual defamation is being carried out. Because this town is kind of like a little bubble. I think if you live in a big city you can move amongst people more anonymously, but you can’t in a town of five thousand.

So, oh my goodness, they have unleashed a storm against me here, but I don’t want to get into that right now. But it’s just been a most interesting thing. And I do kind of make my observations and I, you know, I can write about it and I do write about it a little bit. You’ll probably, maybe make a link to my Free Speech Monika website with this podcast this, I would assume?

John: Absolutely!

Monika: You had a another question for me and so I’d love to hear what that was.

John: Yeah, now that you brought that up that was actually something I wanted to talk about, if you mind? Just addressing that briefly. Just the reaction you have had amongst people you know, amongst friends, neighbors. Because I mean, we sort of have, … I don’t want to say similar experiences, I guess it is kind of. I mean, I’ve been doing this very publicly for a long time. I wouldn’t bring it up with people. People would have to find out on their own, simply by googling me, as if that’s like a very difficult ask to do. But, you know, I didn’t really bring it up and it’s caused a lot of problems professionally and with friends, other relationships.

So I guess, I’m just curious about your reaction, … You live in a small town. I don’t live in a small town by any means. But could you maybe just give us some insight into your experience and sort of what’s happened to you with your friends, or acquaintances?

Monika: Yeah. I mean, I still have some friends! I’m happy to say. And there are people who have stuck by my side through thick and thin, even if they don’t get into this topic, or don’t research it, so they probably don’t even agree with me. But they have remained my friend. So I don’t want to make it sound like I have zero friends here in this town.

However, the general sentiment against me is just, it’s visceral. And I am banned from certain places. The most active venue for music and happenings, happens to be the Legion [Jasper Royal Canadian Legion], and Legion is this is, I guess they operate sort of like a private club, and they have banned me from entering. And a lot happens there, like a lot of live music. I used to be in there a lot, not just listening to musicians who are coming through town, but also playing there a lot. So that’s off-limits for me now.

Jasper Royal Canadian Legion in a foolish act of exclusion, bans Monika Schaefer from entering its premises, thus throwing its reputation into the gutter.

John: That is so pathetic! Wow!

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Monika: It is! And last summer I didn’t get a busking license. I was not allowed to have a busking license. Busking is when you put your case out in front of you when you playing music like, in a public place and then passers-by can throw a coin in if they want, if they like your music, or whatever. They can show their appreciation by throwing some money into your music case. And this was the first time that busking became a sanctioned activity in Jasper and I was the one who lobbied for it, years already. And then ironically, I was denied a busking permit last summer, for my, quote, unquote, “my political, non-inclusive views”! Like this is just unbelievable and, you know, when I, …

John: Non-inclusive! They’re the ones excluding you!

Monika: Exactly! And John, just to give some background, I have given my music voluntarily to this town for thirty-five years, basically. The whole time I’ve been living here, in terms of playing at fundraisers, or playing in the schools, or playing for the seniors, or playing all over the place for free, because I just have the enjoyment of doing that. But I also play professionally and teach and all that. But I had been giving and donating that my time and my music for decades.

And then when it came time to get a busking permit they denied me that. Now, we’ll see how that goes this summer, but that’s still a question mark, I have to say, so I can’t report on that yet. But anyway, so there’s a bunch of other things that happened. All kinds of hate letters to me in articles in the main weekly paper. There’s two papers here and both have had their sort of different things in the papers about me. And one paper, the main one, the weekly one, oh my goodness they are treating me with such hostility! And I have not had the right of reply, basically in terms of this subject, at all. And yet they can write all kinds of slanderous things about me. So, it has had it’s effect. People sometimes, they look at me with fear and then I just greet them in a friendly way and then the fear dissipates.

But actually some of the worst is the young high school kids. And I live right across from the high school and I’m telling you sometimes they yell things at me that are just, … And they only do this when they’re in groups. I haven’t had, you know, people do this when they’re by themselves facing. One time I turned around when there was a group of them behind me are on bicycles — I was on my bicycle — and somebody shouted something like, I don’t know, “Nazi!” or “Hitler!” I don’t know what they shouted, just something very hostile. And I turned around and faced them and I said:

“Do, you know, what you’re talking about?”

And they had fear in their eyes! I tried to engage them, but that was impossible and then they zoomed off ahead and turned off and said:

“You can’t follow us! You can’t follow us to the Legion!”

[laughing] I mean, I was just kind of laughing and I could hear them, squeals of laughter, like I could hear them blocks away!

And then there’s other times when people drive by and they stick their heads out the window and just shout obscenities at me! I mean, it’s just absolutely crazy! This kind of thing! But I have to say there are others who, they greet me in a very friendly way. There isn’t anybody in this town and doesn’t know about this controversial issue, since this happened to me and me bringing all up, I guess, what that video. But, you know, when I’m seeing people downtown, or in a grocery store, I don’t bring this up! In fact, I don’t want to bring it up, because I just want to live normal and I greet people and talk about other things like, you know, talk about mundane things, or talk about music, or gardening, or whatever. And I just try to be friendly. And I am a friendly person, I’m pretty gregarious and just try to normalize the situation.

And to a certain extent that does work and people see that. They sort of feel relief after I speak about something else, they feel relief and they want to talk to me about, you know, other subjects, or whatever, so that they can see that, okay, she doesn’t just go around her blow horn all day long and start talking about, you know, the holohoax, National Socialist Germany, or whatever!

Anyway it is quite an interesting situation here. There are people who would just dearly love to chase me out of town and they have sent me all kinds of messages to that effect, and hate messages and whatnot. Anyway, I’m sure that anybody who talks about these things openly has that kind of reaction to them too. But I guess in this size of the town it is very interesting, and so I kind of tell a story with that.

[85:08]

John: Interesting. Well I’d love to come hang out with you in Jasper. Where is it?

Jasper, Alberta (click image to enlarge)

Monika: Jasper. Jasper, Alberta, north of Banff. You have probably heard of Banff.

John: I’m sorry, but I have not.

Monika: Yeah that’s okay. That’s okay, but we’re in the Rocky Mountains.

John: You guys are like directly north of Colorado basically. Like if you were to keep following, …

Monika: Following the Rocky Mountains. That kind of goes north-west. Because they go north-west to south-east so, … But, we’re in the same mountain range that the Colorado Rocky Mountains are. That’s the same mountain range and it’s beautiful here! It’s just absolutely beautiful!

John: Oh, I believe it.

Monika: You know, it’s a little bit of a fairy tale town, because it is in it’s own bubble. A friend of mine calls it “Gingerbread Town”, so I kind of laugh about that, and I call it, “Gingerbread Town”. And the people don’t like it when you rock the boat, because they might get a little bit wet!

So, anyway I do have a big smile on my face and I’m doing very well and I’m a happy person. I’m much happier since I figured out the truth about things. Which maybe that sounds strange to people, because it is so dark, these things that we’re learning, and yet it lifts something off your shoulders a little bit. It lifts your spirit. It’s better to know the truth and to do something about it, than to not know the truth. And be bewildered by all the turmoil in the world and the wars! This and that, that is going on, nothing makes sense! Now things make more sense to me. And I can understand things better. And anyway, I’m doing my best to do something about it.

John: God bless you! That’s exactly how I feel! That is literally exactly how I feel. I mean, I just want to know how the world really works and what’s really going on. I think I’ve got a pretty good idea at this point. Now, I’m just trying to do something about it, to make it better. That’s really what this all boils down to.

Monika: Yes! Well it has been such a pleasure talking with you John and I know that when I’ve listened to you talk before, that’s how I felt too. I felt that we were really kindred spirits!

John: Yes. I think so. I completely agree. Maybe one of these days I’ll make it up there to visit Canada. I’ve never been to Canada. I’ve been to Mexico, I’ve been to South America, I’ve been to Europe, but never been to Canada. One of these days I’ll get up there and well have a good old time!

Monika: Oh yeah.

John: We’ll go out and make all sorts of friends in Jasper! [laughing]

Monika: Yeah! Yeah, that’s great! Okay, …

John: Well, Monika I will go ahead, let’s just go ahead and wrap it up. This has been a very good conversation. I’d love to do it again in the future, if your interested.

Monika: I sure would be John! I am sure would be. Let’s stay in touch.

John: Okay, very good! I will have a link over to your website, as well as your video that we’ve been discussing, “Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust”.

Monika Schaefer, thank you so much. I really appreciate it, I will talk to you soon.

Monika: Thank you John! Bye, bye.

John: Okay, good night.

Monika: Good night.

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The Realist Report COMMENTS

Richard May 18, 2017 4:33 AM
Excellent interview, John and Monika. You both come across as lovely, honourable, sincere and well-meaning people – and very brave, too.
Yes, I agree with John that the myth of the Holocaust is the Number One weapon used on a daily basis to brainwash the masses across the world into accepting all the wars and injustice and unfairness and political correctness that the fake ‘elites’ (mostly Jewish) are raining down upon this earth. When Mark Webber (of the Institute for Historical Review) says these days that the Holocaust is basically a non-issue and we should move on and just talk about Israel – oh, my God: how wrong and wrong-headed (out of whatever motive) can he be! The fake Holocaust narrative is THE defining myth of our age and underlies literally ALL the evil that is being perpetrated in the name of a false ‘good’.

Realist Report May 18, 2017 6:57 AM
Thank you Richard! Agree 100% – well said!

Nick Dean May 18, 2017 10:27 AM
On Weber – I’ll ‘third’ that!
Robert Faurisson, Michael Collins Piper and even that mellowest of men, Germar Rudolf, have gone on the record and said Weber is crook.
If it were ever in doubt, just look at the volume of material produced by Rudolf, Mattogno, Graf and so many others, on a shoestring, and generally provided free of charge to the world at vho.org. Meanwhile, IHR is mothballed when it had at least a coupla million dollars, plus ongoing income from well-meaning mainly elderly donators who just didn’t know better.
There are five 45 minute RBN ‘Piper Report’ broadcasts starting here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7VNP8IjL1o
Someone with time on his hands could turn them into a shorter, less discursive, single edit, exposing the enemy’s take-over and driving into the dust of IHR.

Nick Dean May 18, 2017 10:35 AM
On Monika Schaefer, I’ll ‘third’ that.
It’s the smart and principled fraction we most need (and which most need us!) And the Schaefer eltern provided two healthy specimens, indeed.

Russian Limbaugh May 18, 2017 1:59 PM
No event which ever happened in history has been used as the Jewish Holocaust has been used to justify displacement, murder, bombing, imprisonment, etc. of gentiles while giving Jews special privileges above all other races of people.
This is sufficient to conclude if the Jewish Holocaust had really happened then it would not be used in such manner as no other historical event ever was. It is used is such manner because it is a fantasy and not because it really happened as other historical events.

Richard May 18, 2017 4:41 PM
Thank YOU, John. Keep up the great work.

Lou Ryan May 19, 2017 10:03 AM
She seems like a sweet lady.
Unsure of the brother, after listening to a recent podcast, whereupon he stated he enjoyed exposing himself to the police or that he was abducted by aliens during his early teenage years.
Thanks, John.

katana May 20, 2017 3:48 AM
Thanks John and Monika for that.
I’ve started on the transcript here:
https://katana17.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/the-realist-report-interviews-monika-schaefer-may-2017-transcript/

Realist Report May 20, 2017 8:41 AM
Thank you katana, as always. Your hard work is greatly appreciated.

Alfred Schaefer May 20, 2017 1:37 PM
Great interview. You were probably too polite to remind the listeners that these Rabbis not only want to exterminate the white race. They are encouraged by their holy book, the Talmud, to rape our three year old girls. These are the same rabbis that have their foreskin chewed off when they are 8 days old. These rituals ensure that the parasite never fraternises with the host. Raping our 3 year old girls builds an unbridgeable gulf between parasite and host.
The entire history of the “World Wars” need to be seen in the light of being the first big hit of the parasite jew exterminating the White race. We are now seeing the final blow against us, and the holohoax is used as the psychological guilt trip to destroy our defences. The jew is advised through the Talmud, to kill us slowly so that we do not notice. One day the last remnants of the white race will wake up and think, “how the hell did that happen?”….
But, we will do what we can to ensure that it is not the white race that goes down. And we are fighting to win!

Realist Report May 20, 2017 4:54 PM
Thank you Alfred!

Teutonica June 12, 2017 1:38 PM
Dear Monika and John,
Thank you for this great interview! Monika you are hitting the nail on the head in so many areas.
2011 also my search for the truth started, on September 11, in response to another 9/11 documentary.
About a year ago I spoke out publicly in a meeting with just one sentence opposing the Hitler bashing. After that I was rejected by a person who was seeking my friendship before. She did not give me a chance to give her detailed reasons for my one sentence, though I asked her for it, but right out rejected me and forbid me to speak to her. Apparently, she considers me evil and that’s that. Imagine you have a judge like this in court, and there are some like this, and definitely they have them in the “German” courts run by Jews. That’s why they extradite people to Germany to grind them through the Communist Kangaroo Courts in Germany where the judges say: “Truth is not a reason to deny the Holocaust.” Like Monika says and JFK said in his speech about the secret societies that they do not come with weapons by day but with secret machinations. Nothing is open and honest and up to debate. For the encouragement of people, when I found out that it was the Jews and not the Russians that overthrew Russia and executed or slowly killed between 66 and 100 Million people, the fog lifted from my brain and opened all the channels to see other deceptions. I’d like to add to the “people do not know how to use their brain” by saying they also do not want to. I have come to understand that people want to belong to a group, and by indoctrination of a false holohoax, they who believe in it all think alike in this area. “Don’t dare to disturb this group!” You’ll have a bad thing coming! And furthermore, these frightening Hollywood Nazi and Holocaust movies had such an intense emotional impact on children that as adults they still “see” these experiences, like the older generation remembers “Night of the Living Dead.” AND ANOTHER THING IS, PEOPLE WANT A SCAPE GOAT. THEY CAN THEN BLAME “EVERYTHING” ON THAT SCAPE GOAT AND NEVER HAVE TO LOOK AT THEMSELVES. THIS IS A VERY JEWISH CUSTOM INDOCTRINATED INTO THE GENTILES AND GOES BACK TO THE OLD TESTAMENT TIMES. Just think about the fact that in the Muslim religion when a girl or woman gets raped she is ALWAYS BLAMED FOR IT and punished for it. No punishment for the criminal. No wonder, as the Muslim religion is an offspring of the Old Testament. Germany is the scape goat for all of man’s evil, just like Jesus, a German – the Germans lived in all of Palestine – was the scapegoat for all of mankind, for their sin (Jews invading a German homeland and genociding most of them) and crucified because the Jews had already mostly taken over their country. To think other than the group means the person will be either dismissed, abandoned, isolated, and at the very best be allowed in with cold indifference, something no one can handle for an extended period of time. All of these have happened to me, including family members and most friends have departed from me. (Who needs friends like this?!) Like Monika, I was also hoping they would be happy about the Holocaust being a hoax, the contrary happened. They hated me for bringing them the good message of the Jewish author’s book “Tell the truth and shame the devil”; they called me insane, told me to see a psychiatrist, told me to get lost, called me Nazi and peace disturber (their phantasy peace). And most people are not willing to talk about it, yes! 99%, after I spent about ½ hour of my energy telling them the truth in several areas, they told me that they did not believe any of it. In my own family in the U.S., where one can speak the truth at least at home, there have been painful consequences for me. I am only 18 minutes into the talk, and I have so much more to say in response to your talk, but already wrote maybe too much. Thank you both! For more WW2 truth, visit http://www.germanvictims.com

Realist Report June 12, 2017 6:25 PM
Great comment, thank you very much!

Tucker June 23, 2017 4:32 AM
I have gotten way behind on the podcasts that I like to listen to, so only got around to this one yesterday. I was very impressed! Great interview.

Realist Report June 23, 2017 7:41 PM
Thanks!

Mike Stone July 4, 2017 9:02 PM
I really enjoyed listening to this, and I really felt for Monika and the reaction she received after posting her video, which is very good, by the way.

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Zsolt Bayer: The White Genocide Speech — TRANSCRIPT

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[This is the frank opinion of Zsolt Bayer, a long time friend of Hungary’s Prime Minister, Victor Orban, on the invasion of non-Whites into Europe and in particular Hungary. He’s a race-realist that demands that Hungary must stand up and resist this invasion being orchestrated by what Bayer calls the “Invisible Hands“, otherwise known as international jewry and the traitorous minions — KATANA]

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Zsolt Bayer, Hungarian author, journalist, publicist, is one of the founders of Fidesz, the current ruling political party of Hungary of which Prime Minister Viktor Orbán is the leader and founder. Fidesz was founded as a youthful underground anti-communist movement in the 1980s, and has grown into a well-respected and powerful conservative political force that hold unparalleled support in Hungary.

Zsolt Bayer and Viktor Orbán have been close friends for 30 years, and in mid-September 2015, a liberal left-wing George Soros-funded magazine, “Magyar Narancs” unveiled a tasteless and ignorant cover with Viktor Orbán wearing a Hitler mustache made out of barbed wire.

Zsolt Bayer, coming to the defense of his friend, organized a rally attended by 2,000 people before the offices of Magyar Narancs. He not only criticized the magazine and liberals, but went out of his way to openly speak about that ethereal, controversial subject: white genocide.

Observant viewers can conclude with some assertion that the words of Mr. Bayer back in September, who is notorious for his sarcastic, fearless wit in his columns and blogs, are slowly being pulled into more public forums. In more eloquent ways, Viktor Orbán himself has recently touched upon these subjects, hinting that he too is very well aware of the truth, but as a politician, must play the game.

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On Sunday the 13th of September, Zsolt Bayer, a co-founder of the “Fidesz” political party – Hungary’s currently elected political party, has warned of “racial weapons” being used to destroy Europe.

Zsolt Bayer

The White Genocide Speech

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Zsolt Bayer

Co-founder of Fidesz, journalist, and long-term friend of Hungarian PM, Victor Orban.

Came to his defense in September in a protest after a left-lib Soros-funded magazine depicted Orban as thus:

[Image] Cover of the Mayar Narancs magazine showing Orban with a barbed wire “Hitler” mustache. This was a jewish attempt at equating Orban’s building of barbed wire border fences as something very “Nazi” like.

Mr. Bayer not only defended his friend, but had a number of truths to say, in a scathing attack against White genocide.

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Zsolt Bayer:

Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

Dear friends, ladies and gentlemen.

There is a man, and not just anybody. He is a Harvard professor. They call him Noel Ignatiev. This man believes the following, a word for word quote follows.

“Treason to Whiteness is loyalty to humanity. The key to solving the problems of our age is to abolish the White race, the abolishment of the privileges of the White skin.”

There is apparently a man, my dear friends, who picks out a race based on skin color from the rest of humanity. And the destruction of this race is what he sees as the solution to the problems of humanity.

[Image] Noel Ignatiev, a jewish professor at Harvard University that teaches (and preaches) extreme hatred towards Whites.

This man teaches at one of the world’s most famous and best universities. He moves within the highest, most elite circles. They listen to his opinion, they shake his hand.

This man matters. This man is a real Nazi!

However, over here, around our place, a Hitler mustache is drawn on our lawful Prime Minister by the liberals.

[Image] A close-up of jewish propaganda technique, bizarrely associating a love of ones own people with hatred of people in general.

Ladies and gentlemen, my dear friends. It has perhaps never been so important in the past decades to maintain our composure and rational judgement-making ability.

For we have never faced such a major challenge in the past few decades. And such an enormous provocation. There exists my dear friends, all manner of weapons.

There are traditional weapons, atomic weapons, chemical weapons. And now we can see that there exists the ethnic weapon.

And now, this is what has been deployed against Europe and against the white race by the “invisible hands”.

Friends, in Afghanistan, 1979 May, that is 36 years, there has been constant war. Syria has been in a war for six years. In Pakistan, there is no war. Nor in Bangladesh. In large parts of Africa for centuries it has been horribly difficult to live, or at times, life can be unbearable there.

Let’s pose the question finally.

Why, … Let’s pose the question. Why is it that suddenly now it came into everyone is mind who live in such places to start moving to Europe? From every are and all at once. Why?

Let us say it loudly and with a level-head:

“This is an artificial, contrived migratory movement!”

And it’s goal, … And it’s goal is the permanent and irreversible transformation of Europe’s ethnic and religious composition. And for this, they have already produced the necessary ideologies. According to the Harvard professor, the white race must be made to vanish!

One of them I have already mentioned. According to the Harvard professor, the White race must be erased. But the is an ideology aside from this as well. Let’s take a look at the economic “gurus” and their statements made with unassailable confidence. Europe is not reproducing and it will quickly age, so we need immigration for “blood renewal” purposes, so that the current economic output can be sustained. And for there to be someone to work for our pensions.

This is how one of the scripts goes. This is how one of the scripts goes.

And, the controllers of this diseased continent aren’t telling us to reproduce and be plentiful, but rather to accept EVERY type of foreignness that just happens to com our way.

How can this be possible?

How does and how can such a scale of self-identity destruction exist?

We will immediately you need this, too, once we listen to the second economic script.

The President of the car manufacturer, Daimler, says, that they just happen to need such young and motivated manpower that can be seen in the masses of illegal migrants currently pouring into Europe.

My dear friends, Europe today is incapable of giving work even to it’s own young people! Let’s not be mistaken, today British young people are emigrating to Australia and New Zealand. That is where they will try their luck. And Hungarian young people head to Britain. Romanian young people go largely everywhere where Latin languages are spoken. The Poles likewise go to Britain. The Spanish youth, to the time being, are not emigrating anywhere. However, amongst them, unemployment is over 50%.

And in THIS situation the President of Daimler comes along and “realizes” that the Syrian masons and the Bedouin goat herders represent the ideal workforce!

My dear friends, at times like these, one must inevitably think that this man has lost his mind! It certainly seems so.

But I have a bit of bad news. It ONLY seems so.

The actual truth is, my dear friends, that this is truly an insane remark, yet there is indeed a method to it. For the Syrian mason and the Bedouin goat herder will actually do the given work for 20% of the lowest possible wage. It is this 20% of a wage that has made Europe’s leaders lose their minds. It is for this much that they want to sell us and ruin our Europe.

Our own leaders in Brussels and the various controllers of Western powers do exactly the same.

It is for this, and in the name of some brainless, and completely faulty, badly interpreted, general “human rights” platitudes.

And anyone who dares to speak up against this immediately becomes a “Nazi”. And this is how a Hitler mustache came to be put under his [Orban’s] nose.

But I have some bad news for these scumbags!

To the Austrian Chancellor, to the French Foreign Minister, to the rotten to the core, lying and disreputable journalists of the Western media, oh, and of course to the worthless scumbags of Magyar Narancs [magazine that did the Hitler mustache cover] , as well.

The bad news is, my dear friends, is that out of the 500 million native citizens of Europe, how should I say, “natives” today, largely 450 million of them do NOT want to see any more immigrants!

And, and, the Hungarian Prime Minister represents their desires. He speaks the truth in their place, that which, for now, due to the “opinion terrorism” of THESE that no one dares to say.

It’s bad news of you Magyar Narancs, Austrian Chancellor, Western media, French Foreign Minister! It’s also bad news for you that current central part of Europe represents normalcy. WE represent it!

My dear friends, WE represent normalcy, those who say, “No!” to the idiotic and Pharisaic quota system! Let’s applaud them all!

Long live Finland!

Long live Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia!

Long live Denmark!

Long live — once again — Poland!

Long live the Czech Republic!

And yes, long live Slovakia!

And my dear friends, long live Romania!

And last but not least, long live Hungary!

And the situation is, my dear friends, that these scumbags can draw the Hitler mustache underneath the noses of the listed Prime Ministers, too. And underneath the noses of 450 million European citizens, too!

But we in good faith and with the patience of a psychiatrist are warning them, where everyone is a “Nazi” there, no one is a “Nazi” any longer!

And my dear friends. The situation is, my dear friends, that these mentally-ill and brainless scumbags are actually not insulting us, but that which is one of the biggest taboos. They, with their constant “Nazi” outcries are insulting the victims of the “Holocaust”.

My dear friends. Now, in these times they want to create fear and panic in us, and of course rage. That is why they are threatening and provoking us. So that we will lose our composure and be unable to act rationally. This is why we must maintain our “old blood” and our ability to make sober judgments.

This is how we must act with cool heads. This is how we must maintain Central-Eastern Europe’s unity. This is how we must represent the deciding majority of European’s will and opinion.

It is for among these reasons that we demand that the leaders of the European Union do indeed send out a referendum on the question of immigration.

And this is why, … And this is why we support and assure our solidarity with the Hungarian government and Prime Minister, Victor Orban.

[Image] Victor Orban, the Prime Minister of Hungary.

(Chanting) Victor! Victor! , Victor!

My dear friends. My dear friends, those who saw [the movie] , “The Lord of the Rings” or, I hope, have also read it, will know precisely what I’m going to talk about now at the end. And to whoever hasn’t seen it or read it, make up for the omission.

And so, let’s say it.

Us, Hungarians, let’s say it first, that which Victor Orban has already said. And that which was first said by Gandalf the Grey in the mines of Moria, on the bridge of Khazadum, to the demon of the ancient world:

“You shall NOT pass!”

[Image] Gandalf the Grey in a film adaption of Tokien’s book, Lord of the Rings.

This, let’s say this, nice and loud. Let everyone hear it. Let those on the southern border hear:

“You shall NOT pass!”

And my dear friends. From this place we send the message to everyone. This fence is being built, so that we will be able to protect not only our own homeland, but the entire European Union as well. The fence is being built so that we may finally get validation from the EU’s still active, valid laws, which have not been terminated by anyone.

We thank the Government’s work! From this place, we thank our police for their sacrifices and above-human work.

Let us thank, … Let us thank the work of the Hungarian army.

And let us prepare. Because from Tuesday, next week, another world is coming. And also prepare, because there WILL be a peace march!

Best regards.

[Images] The crowd listening to Bayer’s speech near the Soros funded magazine Magyar Narancs’ building.

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YOUR GOVERNMENT & MEDIA ARE AGAINST YOU. AS LONG AS THE MASSES DON’T KNOW WHO IS ORCHESTRATING THIS, IT WILL CONTINUE.

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“Why do you believe the ‘Holocaust’ narrative”?

“Well Monika, this topic is it just off-limits! I’m not going to discuss the ‘Holocaust’ with you! I’m not going to debate it with you! But I’ll still, you know, be your friend.”

“Mom, why didn’t you stop this from happening? If you had just got together with all your friends and your relatives, you could have done something about it!”

“Boy, I wish I could say sorry!”

“Oh! Yes! That’s very significant!”

“Oh! That’s illegal in the United States!”

“Oh maybe, perhaps, if he were to bow down to the jews, beg for forgiveness, renounce his views, say the “Holocaust” is true.”

“Well you see? See, you’re wrong! The laws prove it! You’re wrong!”

“Oh! See! We’d better throw you in jail! You just broke the law!”

“The goal of abolishing the White race, is, on it’s face, so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition, other than from committed White supremacists!”

“Oh they must be Japanese supremacists!”

“Oh well, they must be black supremacists!”

“Oh! Those people just hate people with”, I don’t know, XYZ “And they are all anti-XYZ!”

“We’re not going to debate this with you. And there’s no way you can’t talk about this. This is off-limits, a taboo subject”.

“There’s mountains of evidence! Mountains of evidence! It’s the most well documented event in the history of mankind!”

“And there’s all those eyewitnesses. And what about the survivors?”

“That yes, it is incredible! There was some kind of ‘meeting of the minds!”

“Oh, well, what about all these dead bodies?”

“Well, good on you!”

“Oh, you know, we went into we went into the gas chambers and all of a sudden there was a shower, taking a shower!”

“Look Monika, why do you dwell on this thing? That was so long ago, it’s not relevant, it’s not relevant!”

“Do, you know, what you’re talking about?”

“You can’t follow us! You can’t follow us to the Legion!”

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