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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [In this 2 hour plus interview, Brizer, an Irish co-host of the Graham Hart Show, talks with Monika Schaefer about her journey towards seeking the taboo truth about WWII, the &#8220;Holocaust&#8220;, and the organized jewish perpetration of 9/11. Monika &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/12/19/the-graham-hart-show-brizer-with-monika-schaefer-dec-2018-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this 2 hour plus interview, <strong>Brizer</strong>, an Irish co-host of the <strong>Graham Hart Show</strong>, talks with <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong> about her journey towards seeking the taboo truth about WWII, the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8220;, and the organized jewish perpetration of 9/11. Monika was arrested in Germany on January 3, 2018, and sentenced, and served, 10 months imprisonment for her 6 minute video that was put up on YouTube in June, 2016.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">In that video she gave a heartfelt, belated apology to her mother, for blaming her generation of Germans for not doing enough to stop the alleged genocide of jews. She has since come to know that the so-called &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; is a gigantic, diabolical fraud, in that, yes jews were put into camps, yet there were no plans to exterminate jews, there were no gas chambers, and that far, far, less jews died in WWII than the &#8220;<em>magical</em>&#8221; number of six million.<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Monika Schaefer<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Dec 2018</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;">The Graham Hart Show &#8211; With Brizer 2018.12.10</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Brizer&#8217;s guests: Monika Schaefer</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong><br />
<strong>Stadelheim Prison</strong><br />
<strong>Stadelheimer Straße</strong><br />
<strong>81549 Munich</strong><br />
<strong>Germany</strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;">Graham Hart &#8211; Hoax Train.mp3</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Published on Dec 10, 2018</strong></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">TRANSCRIPT</span></h1>
<p style="text-align: center;">(131:00)</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[00:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[INTRO MUSIC]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Okay, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Graham Hart Show with me Brizer. I’m here on Cornwall Revolution Radio I don’t. And out of grisson dot blogspot dot com, where Mami welcomes you to the best news aggregate site on the World Wide Web! It’s good to have your company folks. Now if you’d like to join us in the Chat Room, click on the HTML 5 link on the top right hand side of the page, just below the player of your choice.</p>
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<p>So I’ve got that one out of the way. It’s my first time doing that!</p>
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<p>So, welcome along everybody! We have a great guest on our show tonight, which I’m really looking forward to talking to.</p>
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<p>She needs no introduction to many of you, I’m sure. Her name, of course, is Monika Schaefer — a sister of Alfred — who was incarcerated in a German gulag for pretty much most of this year, 2018.</p>
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<p>Thankfully she’s back in her native Canada again. And she’s still quite willing to speak out. Jail didn’t do anything to shut her up, or anything! She’s still going strong, fighting the good fight for our people, for our cause. So, without further ado, I’ll welcome Monika to the show. And Monika please give small introduction to the people who made not have heard about you. But I’m sure most people have.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you so much for having me on! I am just honoured and delighted to be here! And I guess it was the better part of a year ago that Alfred was on your show, and I quite enjoyed that. And I wanted to tell you the song at the end was just fantastic, “<em>The Goyim Know!</em>” I sure enjoyed that! So I’m so happy to be on. And just a short introduction. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, you mentioned I spent the better part of a year, that’s 10 months in the German jail in Munich. And that was just as a political prisoner! You know, I didn’t rob a bank, or hit anybody over the head with a sledgehammer, or anything like that! They didn’t like the things I talk about, and they have some pretty draconian laws there. So that’s why it landed me in prison. Did you want me to get it?</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Brian-Ruhe-with-Monika-Nov-2018-6068-Stadelheim-Womans-Prison-Aerial-view.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22715 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Brian-Ruhe-with-Monika-Nov-2018-6068-Stadelheim-Womans-Prison-Aerial-view.jpg" alt="" width="706" height="984" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Brian-Ruhe-with-Monika-Nov-2018-6068-Stadelheim-Womans-Prison-Aerial-view.jpg 706w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Brian-Ruhe-with-Monika-Nov-2018-6068-Stadelheim-Womans-Prison-Aerial-view-600x836.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 706px) 100vw, 706px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> It’s all, because of a YouTube video, I believe.</p>
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<p>That’s, a big crime these days if it’s not got the correct message in there.</p>
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<p>Well according to the elite was they call the correct message. Well actually, there’s nothing really bad about the video you’re just apologising to your mother.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes that’s right the video is called “<em>Sorry mom, I was wrong about the ‘Holocaust’</em>”. 02s ing and it’s just 6 minutes long and I did it in English. I also did an original version in German. And within a few days of it being released, out into the world, other people, who I had never met, or seen, or heard of before, translated into several other languages.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think within the first four days there are already 3 more translations, like where they had to put the — what do you call it — the subtitles, I guess once, onto the English version. And it just kind of took off! It took my breath away at the time. That was June of 2016. I knew when that went out into the Internet that it was a door that I went through. I knew that I was going through a door. But heavens, I certainly did not expect all the things to happen that did happen to me! It’s been quite an education. Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> So you actually recorded that video in Germany? Is that the reason why you were nabbed. Is that it?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, you know, we studiously avoided answering that question, because first of all it was irrelevant where it was created, although for “<em>the powers that should not be</em>” over there, it was very relevant. That’s all they were interested in was the technical aspects. They were not interested in whether the contents of the various videos were accurate historically, or not. I mean, obviously that’s what bothered them, because they were exactly, you know, telling the truth about matters. But the truth hurts to those who hate the truth! </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so they basically invert everything and that’s what happened with the trial. It’s what happened with the prison time. It’s what happened with the hearings to see if I should be let out on bail awaiting the trial. They’ve basically always had a verdict first and followed with the show, whatever the show would be, whether it was a hearing itself in front of a judge, or whether it was the trial, and all of that. Everything got inverted! So just as we have everything in inverted in our world, everything gets inverted in these kinds of trials. And also the words they use to describe us and what we’re doing. So would you like me to describe what’s in the video, a little bit?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yes please.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Sorry-Mom-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-20821 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Sorry-Mom-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="673" height="1057" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Sorry-Mom-COVER.jpg 673w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Sorry-Mom-COVER-191x300.jpg 191w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Sorry-Mom-COVER-652x1024.jpg 652w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 673px) 100vw, 673px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: </span><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/06/18/sorry-mom-i-was-wrong-about-the-holocaust-transcript/" rel="bookmark"><span style="color: #008000;">Sorry Mom, I was wrong about the Holocaust — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Okay. It’s a short video, so this won’t take long to summarize it. But basically, I start out and finish with a little piece of fiddle music. So that’s kind of a cheerful way to have this message. Because I wanted it to be cheerful, because I was very relieved and happy to have learned the truth about my parents and ancestors.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So when I was a teenager and learning all these “<em>terrible, horrible, evil</em>” things that those bad Germans were doing, I was horrified! And being a very sensitive person, I was just so devastated. And I reproached my mother. She’s the person who basically I was closest with in the family home. And there I was, reproaching, and saying:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Why didn’t you, and your friends, and relatives, &#8230; You should have organized! You could have organized, you could have gotten together and stopped all those things from happening!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I remember her listening to that, and saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well, Monika, we just didn’t know about those things, like those death camps! We just didn’t know!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And she was very solemn, and quiet, and that’s all she said to me:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, fast forward, many, many years, to just a few years ago, when I learned that those stories we’re false! That we’re talking about World War Two. We’re talking about “<em>Holocaust</em>” matters, and the gas chambers. And I started to open my eyes. Actually, first opened my eyes with relation to 9/11. But even that, it took till 10 years after 9/11 to learn about that. And then I kind of kept going down the rabbit hole, as it were, and figured out that lying was not invented in 2001! And it goes way back.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-21557 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="656" height="1040" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER.jpg 656w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER-189x300.jpg 189w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER-646x1024.jpg 646w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 656px) 100vw, 656px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">See: </span></strong><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/09/11/organized-jewry-did-911-the-16th-anniversary-2017/" rel="bookmark"><span style="color: #008000;">Organized jewry Did 9/11 — The 16th Anniversary, 2017</span></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, when I learned about that these things just did not happen the way they told us they happened, I felt really bad about those reproaches when I was a teenager. I never forgot that. I never forgot how I felt! I never forgot that I had reproached my mother, my parents, but mainly my mother. And so I felt really bad about that, and I regretted it, and I wished I could talk to them about it. But they were long gone, my parents had died already. And so, I didn’t have the opportunity to talk to them. So anyway, Alfred had set up, you know, he was already making some very good educational videos.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">First one was about 9/11, “<strong><em>Gate keepers and Controlled Opposition</em></strong>”. And his videos were meant to educate people about how this all happens. How we have been subjected to the psychological warfare of deception and lies. Anyway, so with that, yeah, I was able to make an apology to my parents, and to my mother, to their spirit. And that’s what I did in that video. I apologized for those reproaches.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-21343 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="646" height="1029" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER.jpg 646w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER-188x300.jpg 188w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER-643x1024.jpg 643w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 646px) 100vw, 646px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">See: </span></strong><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/07/23/london-forum-alfred-schaefer-psychological-warfare-transcript/" rel="bookmark"><span style="color: #008000;">London Forum – Alfred Schaefer – Psychological Warfare – TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[10:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> It was a nice thing to do. I mean, you realized you were wrong. But, of course, back in those days you had no idea really. Most of us had no idea about this anywhere. So, when you do figure out something like this you want to apologize to your mother, in spirit. Just say:</p>
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<p>The German people were not the “<em>nasty</em>” Germans that we all were told that they were. So, yeah, you just kind of, I suppose, made a little bit of peace with her. Something like that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Definitely! Definitely! And not just peace with my mother and with my parents but also this notion that the German people are just “<em>bad people</em>”! You see, because many of us — I am really not alone in having experienced this — but many, many of us in our generation, and several generations now, of Germans, were quite ashamed to be German! And there developed this real rift between us and our ancestors. And that’s all very deliberate too. So these lies they serve many, many, purposes.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And one of these purposes is to cut us off from our ancestors, our parents, which means cutting us off from having pride in our culture, having pride in who we are as a people. And when that happens, we become like little children really. And that’s what Cicero, I think it was, has a quote to that effect that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“If you do not know what happened before you were born, then you are reduced to being children forever.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so this is what has happened to us. We have a false understanding of what came before us, and, of course, a false understanding of the world as it is right now. But if you do not understand your history, and you do not have a sense of pride in your people, well that is just a recipe for annihilation, isn’t it? And, of course, we know what they have in mind with us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You see, all these things are related, and they like to compartmentalize us anyway, with all these control words, and weaponized words. And that’s something that Alfred is really good at describing, you know, these words that trigger us to stop thinking. You know, neo-Nazi, or radical, right-wing, or “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier! I mean, that’s just the most weaponized term, and what does it even mean? It’s a so completely a ludicrous term! Nevertheless, this causes us to become quite compartmentalized. But also, the fact that we have this disconnect, or feel guilty about being who we are, to be German.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I heard from so many people after I created that video. I’ve heard from German people from around the world who described to me the experiences they had growing up in wherever, like Canada, Australia, the States, wherever. People are just ashamed of their heritage and hiding it! And that’s what I did. I learned very early on to hide my German heritage. I loved it at home, and we had a very beautiful traditional, very German style. And this time of year, especially, now we’re in the Advent season, and then Christmas. That was a very special time in our home. I loved it! I certainly wasn’t protesting against it at home, but outside and in school, I really learned very quickly to hide that heritage, not make any issue of being German. I mean, if somebody asked me where did my parents come from, of course, I told them. And we spoke German at home, and so occasionally if friends came over to the home, they heard us speak German with the parents, and that kind of thing. So yeah, that’s kind of how it was. </span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah, I can imagine growing up, it must have been difficult because, you had to grow up in the sixty’s time, not too long after the war, really. That memory still and that whole thing of being German, was just kind of a blot on you, or something. Is that how you would feel?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Absolutely! And anything that was on television. I mean, we didn’t even get television till, I think it was the late sixty’s. But nevertheless, then we were exposed to the television series that really made fun of the Germans, or they were always kind of the “<em>bad guys</em>” and then the movies, &#8230; I mean, we all know there’s just hundreds of Hollywood movies that always depict the Germans as the “<em>bad guys</em>”. And then this got ramped up. I mean, as we’re talking about “<em>Holocaust</em>” that did not even really get going until it was in the seventies. And that’s exactly when I was going through junior high and high school.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/David-Duke-vs-Alex-Jones-Debate-1040-Jews-run-Hollywood.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22716 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/David-Duke-vs-Alex-Jones-Debate-1040-Jews-run-Hollywood.jpg" alt="" width="610" height="443" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/David-Duke-vs-Alex-Jones-Debate-1040-Jews-run-Hollywood.jpg 610w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/David-Duke-vs-Alex-Jones-Debate-1040-Jews-run-Hollywood-600x436.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 610px) 100vw, 610px" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s when they really got going with “<em>Holocaust</em>” propaganda, and there was that mini series on television called “<em>Holocaust</em>”. And if you watched clips of it now, it’s just so absurd and ridiculous! But, you know, in the beginning the stories that were told about how people died in the camps were not even, &#8230; They kept changing the stories! I just read an article the other day that after the, quote, unquote, “<em>liberation of Auschwitz</em>”. First, there was nothing in the Russian newspapers for a few days, and then finally something came up. And they talked about:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Electrocuting the prisoners along conveyor belts.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“They would drop dead into these pits.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So what a different story that is from what came out later! That the “<em>gas chamber</em>” story came out later. And now, the tourists are now led through these museums, or through what they say are the ruins of the camps now. And these are “<em>reconstructions</em>” that at Auschwitz for sure. And I think most of the other places, these are “<em>reconstructions</em>” and the Russians have admitted to doing that after the war. And then the reconstructions of what supposedly was there are so sharply done I mean, they’re just completely careless!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Holo-Fact-Series-—-001-The-Little-Chimney-that-Couldnt-Ver-3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-21114 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Holo-Fact-Series-—-001-The-Little-Chimney-that-Couldnt-Ver-3.jpg" alt="" width="897" height="1309" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Holo-Fact-Series-—-001-The-Little-Chimney-that-Couldnt-Ver-3.jpg 897w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Holo-Fact-Series-—-001-The-Little-Chimney-that-Couldnt-Ver-3-206x300.jpg 206w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Holo-Fact-Series-—-001-The-Little-Chimney-that-Couldnt-Ver-3-768x1121.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Holo-Fact-Series-—-001-The-Little-Chimney-that-Couldnt-Ver-3-702x1024.jpg 702w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 897px) 100vw, 897px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Click image to enlarge]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I’d like to mention the late, great, Robert Faurisson who just died. I believe it was October 21st, or 22nd, just a few days before I came out of prison, he died. And he did so much good work and if anybody was always trying to be exact in his research, in his methodology, his research. I mean, there is the man himself! Like, he spent decades researching and being very meticulous with his work. And he studied the architectural plans, and he studied a lot of other things about Auschwitz. And I’m not sure what other camps as well, but my goodness his work is tremendous!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Faurisson-Alain-Soral-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22717 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Faurisson-Alain-Soral-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="624" height="957" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Faurisson-Alain-Soral-COVER.jpg 624w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Faurisson-Alain-Soral-COVER-600x920.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: </span><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/11/06/alain-soral-my-homage-to-robert-faurisson-oct-2018-transcript/"><span style="color: #008000;">Alain Soral – My Homage to Robert Faurisson, Oct 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I would highly recommend that if people want to learn more, to just look up some of his articles that he has written over the years, about those actual camps. And just did the absurdity of making out that gas chambers, all the showers were actually gas lines and whatnot! Well there were doors, wooden doors with cracks, and the windows! And what I mean, it’s so ludicrous what they report on! And then, of course, the numbers have changed over the years. That all these things change, and change, and change, and yet the mainstream goes on to just say well:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Yeah if you question this, then you’re a criminal! And you go to jail! You can’t question this!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And yet jewish “<em>Holocaust</em>” historians, they have changed their story so many times over the years! They’ve changed their numbers, they’ve changed the methods, they’ve changed everything so much, that you have got to, even just people who haven’t looked into this issue at all, you just have to ask yourself, well at what point does one just say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Look! If this part is a lie, and that part is a lie, you know, the shrunken heads, the soap, and another part is a lie, and another part is lie, then how can it be that they have such a stranglehold on this?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well it’s, because it’s turned into a religion! It’s “<em>Holocaustianity</em>”, that if you question it then you are a heretic, basically you get burned at the stake, figuratively speaking! Thank goodness they don’t actually burn people at the stake, because then I would not be talking to you right now on this program! </span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> There you go.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1900-Buchenwald-display-table-lampshade-shrunken-heads.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22160 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1900-Buchenwald-display-table-lampshade-shrunken-heads.gif" alt="" width="801" height="637" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah. It’s silly, because my aunt now she’s quite elderly, but she went to Auschwitz and she’s still brainwashed by that stuff. I brought it up gently with her once. She said she was there and she was told:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“The birds don’t sing at Auschwitz, because of all the terrible deeds that happened.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yet she said the trees were full of birds! She said the birds were flying all over the place. So there’s the first lie right there!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Isn’t that something. And yet, this wasn’t enough to help your aunt?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> No, not really, because she’s just brought up with that whole generation and believes the whole thing. It’s hard to break through to the people who were, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It is!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> It’s hard! With most people it’s very hard. But I think once we break this taboo, I think this is why the jewish elite are so afraid, because we are getting to that hundred monkey situation now, where more and more people are beginning to see through the lies of the whole thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Absolutely!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And, then of course, what we’re doing is, and this is why when I talk to people about this I don’t go into the details of gas chambers. I kind of go into the situation, according to the jewish, their own records, it was 3,800,000 jews in Europe before 1938.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And then there’s what, 15,000,000 odd, jews in the world, I think in 1938. And there was still 15,000,000 left in 1948!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That is right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Let’s do some mathematics here! It’s very simple. And people are kind of scratching their heads and saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Oh, okay.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it’s still trying to break that down! I mean, the conditioning that people gone through is quite incredible! I mean, I was there myself, but somehow I got into this. I was just intrigued, I don’t know why it was with me. Like, sometimes I wonder:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Why did I figure it out? And why can’t other people figure it out?”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I just let go of stuff, because I was going through my own issues. After losing my wife, and then fighting for my house. I’m still doing what the banks at the moment. I realized I’ve just loosed the fear. Once you let go of all of that stuff, that baggage that we carry around with us, everything opens up. And we begin to really see. We step outside the box.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[22:40]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That’s exactly right! Yeah, many, many roads lead to the same conclusions. And something you said there, a minute ago, just really rings true for me too. That I often wonder how is it that some of us are able to peel those layers, you know, peel the lid off our eyes, basically, and see. And other people who with whom we grow up together in the same condition, same environment, are not able to! And I don’t know, I don’t know what that is! If we knew we could solve all these problems.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I also want to point out something along the lines of what you’re saying. That these jewish sources actually tell us these population figures. Jewish sources are sometimes the best sources for finding out what’s going on. And then you can also just throw it back at those who are doubting us and say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Look I got this from jewish sources.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Like, for example, the population figures before and after the war, and how many jewish people worldwide, and whatnot. And they often talk very openly about what their plans are, and what they do, and what not. So that’s really good to use those.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22718 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta.jpg" alt="" width="1113" height="790" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta.jpg 1113w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta-600x426.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta-768x545.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta-1024x727.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1113px) 100vw, 1113px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I also wanted to bring up the fact that many, many, more people do know and understand the truth, than what is visibly apparent to the outside. And the reason for that is that most people who do understand it, they realize what the consequences are of speaking publicly about it. That’s why they make an example out of people like myself and Alfred, when we do speak out publicly about these things. And also what I went through in Jasper — my hometown since 35 years — before I went to Germany, here this last December, and then only to get stuck there, on an extended “<em>State paid vacation</em>”.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> It was involuntary, but, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Government hotel! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah exactly!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I went through what they call “<em>ritual defamation</em>”, in this town. And there are many purposes of that ritual defamation. And one of the purposes is to scare other people from looking into these issues. To actually learn the truth, or if they do understand the truth, to keep them silent, and thereby it gives the appearance to the average person, that there are very few of us. And then, of course, they make us look like a total nutcase and insane, or whatever.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-20579 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation.jpg" alt="" width="742" height="1073" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation.jpg 742w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation-207x300.jpg 207w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation-708x1024.jpg 708w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 742px) 100vw, 742px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Click image to enlarge]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, I actually had the local doctor tell me that I need to go seek psychiatric help, or be charged! And this was a couple of years ago, when he told me that. So basically, he was prescribing institutionalization for me! And that’s the local doctor, you know, and I live in a town that’s a small town, 5,000, or so. And I was already sort of known. I was in the public eye, I could say, because I wore many different hats. I had the music hat on as a local musician, I also had run politically in elections with the Green Party — that’s a whole other story! I certainly am not part of the Green Party anymore, that’s for sure! And then I also wore a public hat, I guess, as being involved on some local boards, and the culture and recreation board and some other involvements that I had.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22719 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party.jpg" alt="" width="682" height="865" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party.jpg 682w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party-600x761.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 682px) 100vw, 682px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I was in the public eye. And visibility enhances the vulnerability to ritual defamation, right? So, if I had been a sort of an unknown entity and came out with this public proclamation — like I did in my apology to my mother — they could have quite easily just ignored me and it wouldn’t have become anything.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1009-Green-Party-candidate-with-Elizabeth-May.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22735 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1009-Green-Party-candidate-with-Elizabeth-May.gif" alt="" width="819" height="554" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, because I was in the public eye it was for them, those who do not like what we speak, those who do not like the truth, it was important for them to take me down! And boy oh boy, did they ever try hard to take me down! Now luckily, I had the confidence to know that truth lies on my side. It doesn’t mean I know everything, and I’m always open to learning more and looking at the evidence.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If somebody takes issue with anything I’m talking about, show me the evidence. Have a discussion with me. However, to generally have truth on my side when I did this, &#8230; And I didn’t do anything bad, I didn’t do anything wrong! I’m apologizing for having reproached my mother as a teenager. And that I’ve learned more about it now, and so it was quite a kind of loving thing to do really, in terms of my relationship with my parents. And yet I’m being called a “<em>hater</em>”! And I’m being called all kinds of other things, and they’re trying to destroy my livelihood, and all these other things that they did, and do!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I kind of stayed upright on my feet, and they were probably surprised by that! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> And it’s very threatening to them when somebody stays upright and doesn’t apologize for what they just did. Because that’s something that a lot of people will do if they’re subjected to this ritual defamation, they’ll immediately go:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh I’m so sorry! I was wrong about that, and I take all that back!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then they go overboard in the other way, or something.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> I didn’t do that!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah it’s interesting what you’re saying, because tonight, just before I come on the show, I was at an anti-corruption meeting, hosted by this very brave journalist Geraldine O’Doughty <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> who is exposing corruption at very, very high levels. In fact it’s infected everything in the public life in this country! It’s quite shocking what she had to say. And there were a few other speakers there as well. And actually one, or two of the other speakers, this guy who was a chicken farmer and he was trying to get his business going. He realized that he was working with companies who are committing absolute fraud! Getting backhanders, left, right and center. And he tried to expose it, and he brought it to the police, he brought it to the government ministers, and the whole lot, and they turned on him!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, they actually turned on him! Threatened to take he has, ruin his business and put his family out onto the street!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly! That is what they do.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And so it’s coming down to all levels of how we live.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes. And so what that tells us, is that there are some very corrupt officials at the top levels of wherever, like the police, the politicians, they have some very compromised people! That’s a better word, there are compromised people at the powerful levels.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And they use fear as a weapon, they threaten people and that’s why you might have people within the media who, you know, again the media, as we all know, is corrupt as hell! But there’s people in there who might want to say things. And she, this lady Geraldine O’Doughty <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> and another great journalist, John Waters, another great guy who, &#8230; He just got out, because it’s a complete cesspit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, they just try to threaten them, and they’re standing up and saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“No, no, they’re going around the country, doing these talks and trying to wake people up to this kind of, &#8230; The bread and butter issues, if you will, just to see how we’ve been lied to, how we’re been deceived, how we’re being used! How they are using our tax monies against us! In every possible facet.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it was kind of grim to hear all that stuff. But we need to hear it, to see that really deep level of how this goes. So, as I just say, it just goes up the ladder to all different aspects of what’s going on. Our history has been rewritten more, or less. Like even here in Ireland where I am, our history it’s been kind of erased. It’s going to be taken out of school books.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh my!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[31:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> We’re all supposed to be good EU citizens now. All this kind of stuff. All the kids have been programmed with its nonsense! And a lot of “<em>Holocaust</em>” stuff being pushed into their history books constantly! So let’s not talk about the genocide, which was the potato famine. No, no, we’re not talk about that anymore! Let’s not talk about 1916 where a few brave man stood up against the Crown to declare our freedom for Ireland! Well, let’s not forget about all of that stuff! We’re all good EU citizens! And you just shut up and obey! And here’s your toys and our gadgets, TV and all of that.</p>
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<p>So there you go. It’s insanity! I’m really enraged by this! And then last Thursday I was at a meeting, I spoke on this with Denis Fetcho’s show. I rang in after that meeting, that evening. A new party came out called the Irexit, which are all but trying to exit out of the EU. Of course, you’ve heard about this “<em>Global Compact on Migration</em>” Have you heard about this?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes. Yes! It’s absolutely horrifying!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah. I know Canada is fully committed to it. I know our country is fully committed to it. But the people aren’t, but their governments are, of course.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> So we kind of held a silent vigil. Of course, they had their Antifa groups all set up. The “<em>rent a mob</em>” were there calling, shouting “<em>Nazi scum off our street!</em>” and all this party is saying:</p>
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<h3>“We want to take control of our country again, take control of our borders, our economy, our laws. We want to take it all up back!”</h3>
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<p>And yet we were called “<em>Nazi scum</em>”, “<em>fascists</em>” all this type of stuff.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And by a lot of young kids who are in university probably. Who were probably paid some beer money just to let them do that. I mean it’s just disgraceful!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Absolutely! It is, I mean, that’s the thing, if you take away people’s history, &#8230; Well, how did that same go in the 1984 movie?:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“If you control the past you control the future. And those who control the present control the past.”</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/House-of-Orwell-Cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22720 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/House-of-Orwell-Cover.jpg" alt="" width="656" height="821" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/House-of-Orwell-Cover.jpg 656w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/House-of-Orwell-Cover-600x751.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 656px) 100vw, 656px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>See:</strong> <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/2014/07/29/house-of-orwell/">House of Orwell</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, it is just absolutely spooky. And so they’re erasing the history from the history books, and I hear, I think it’s in some New York schools, they’re doing away with their actual physical libraries now. They’re getting rid of the physical libraries, so that it will only be virtual libraries online. Which means that they can just, at the click of a mouse, actually change these books online. Change the history. So it’s only when you have books that can last in a paper form that you can really check what’s going on in history.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, when historians can look back at books that were actually printed in the previous century, in the thirty’s, forty’s, fifty’s, and see what was written in them, compared to what they’re trying to tell us now in sort of mainstream media, then you can verify it. If they’re changing it, or not. But if it’s just all online and you’re erasing, &#8230; I mean, that’s their specialty isn’t it? Like this group that we’re not supposed to name lest we be called “<em>anti-semitic</em>”. And they also talk about it in the <em><strong>Protocols of the Elders of Zion</strong></em>, that the agents will become, sorry, the “<em>goyim</em>” will become agents of their own destruction!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so with the programming that happens by all these lies and deceptions, and they’re going younger and younger into the schools to actually soften up the brains of the youngsters that is making them ill actually. Like you could say it’s causing the people to be mentally ill, because it’s just these poisonous lies!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And amongst those poisonous lies, they’re also doing this thing that they call “<em>sex education</em>” in the schools. But really, what I have learned, what they are teaching the children, it’s porno pushing! It’s perversion pushing! That they’re doing at a younger and younger age! It’s absolutely horrifying!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this just softens up the brains of these youngsters that they can’t even get to first base anymore, to be able to look at something that they’re being told in the news. You know, maybe first base would be to figure out 9/11, and then second base might be to figure out something further back in our history books. And then 3rd base might be to figure out that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Gee! They want to get rid of us!”</span><em> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></em></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">These things are all connected, these lies. And, of course, the “<em>Holocaust</em>” is the big, sort of like a chain, a hammer, that they can use on anybody’s heads when they start talking about:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Gee! I don’t know, we never were asked about all these people coming into our country. Like this is just kind of happening, and I don’t remember being asked about this!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So this is what perhaps is going through the heads of the average person. And they’re feeling uncomfortable about it. But lest you think out loud about it:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! You’re xenophobic! The next thing, you know, you’re going to have another ‘Holocaust’!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">This is how the “<em>Holocaust</em>” story, or fairy tale, is being used as a hammer, especially in Germany. And, of course, that’s where you see this invasion really going crazy! But it’s in all the European countries, and it’s in other White countries as well. You have this huge invasion of what they call “<em>migrants</em>”, but it’s basically opportunists from all kinds of places. And they lie about where they’re coming from! And I have firsthand experience with people lying about where they’re coming from. And if you want I could tell you a little bit about that.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mark-Collett-—-The-Plot-to-Flood-Europe-with-200-Million-Africans-—COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22734 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mark-Collett-—-The-Plot-to-Flood-Europe-with-200-Million-Africans-—COVER.jpg" alt="" width="836" height="1276" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mark-Collett-—-The-Plot-to-Flood-Europe-with-200-Million-Africans-—COVER.jpg 836w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mark-Collett-—-The-Plot-to-Flood-Europe-with-200-Million-Africans-—COVER-600x916.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mark-Collett-—-The-Plot-to-Flood-Europe-with-200-Million-Africans-—COVER-768x1172.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mark-Collett-—-The-Plot-to-Flood-Europe-with-200-Million-Africans-—COVER-671x1024.jpg 671w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 836px) 100vw, 836px" /></a></p>
<p class="entry-title" style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>See: </strong><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/07/01/mark-collett-the-plot-to-flood-europe-with-200-million-africans-transcript/">Mark Collett — The Plot to Flood Europe with 200 Million Africans — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, yeah, so that’s what we have. These things are all connected. That they use one part of the history that they’ve changed they use it as a blunt hammer to make sure you don’t question anything else. And then the children are being just prepared for the slaughter, basically.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Red-Ice-Radio-Invasion-of-Europe-COVER-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22733 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Red-Ice-Radio-Invasion-of-Europe-COVER-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="740" height="1050" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Red-Ice-Radio-Invasion-of-Europe-COVER-Ver-2.jpg 740w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Red-Ice-Radio-Invasion-of-Europe-COVER-Ver-2-600x851.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Red-Ice-Radio-Invasion-of-Europe-COVER-Ver-2-722x1024.jpg 722w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 740px) 100vw, 740px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>See:</strong> </span><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/09/23/red-ice-radio-interview-invasion-of-europe-transcript/" rel="bookmark"><span style="color: #008000;">Red Ice Radio Interview: Invasion of Europe — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah, they’ll throw it in anywhere. Again, I was on another kind of march against the banks and how they are evicting people out of their homes. And one guy had a placard — one of the banks is called “<em>AIB</em>” — it says:</p>
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<h3>“AIB — Rothschild Sewer Bank!”</h3>
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<p>And the media immediately jumped on that and said:</p>
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<h3>“Anti-semites out marching against the banks!”</h3>
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<p>Can you believe that nonsense?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> They just throw that in, just to push people away from that, because they don’t want to be associated with that.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes that word, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> You’re probably next, your family’s next! They’re coming after us, they want to dispossess us, they want to replace us.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> They want to turn our countries, our beautiful White countries into third world slums! Not while I’ve got a breath of my body, they are not!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes, that’s exactly right! This is an existential crisis. And I feel the same as you do, that while we are still breathing, I mean, this is just the most important thing! If we do not turn this ship around then, well, we’re doomed really!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> We’re gone.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> We can never give up hope. And that’s a big part of it. And that’s why I do like to talk about some of the things I learned.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">After creating that video I learned that there are so many more people who are aware, and know, and have their eyes wide open, than as apparent. And I found that out, because people are writing me, and calling me, and what not, just from all around here, for starters. But then from many other places in the world. And then I realized every little hamlet, every little town, every little billet, every place, has people who are wide awake! And it’s up to us to make it easier for people to talk about it, and to, &#8230; I don’t know, I mean, we can’t sort of tell people what to do with this. Everybody has their own abilities, their own ideas, and imagination, what they can do as individuals. But everybody has to somehow do something, get involved, whether it’s little, or big!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Everybody needs to get involved in this! And the more people’s eyes we can open the better. And nobody should feel that they’re the only one. They are not! That’s what the enemy likes us to think, that we’re just isolated little cliques of people, here and there. But no! We are many! We need to repeat that again, and again, that we are many! And we need to be educating our neighbors, our friends, our family! I mean, that’s also a way to immunize ourselves from being “<em>burned at the stake</em>”, so to speak. Because if we have people around us who do understand, then it’s going to be harder for them to persecute those of us who do speak publicly, right?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah, like I mean, tonight there was the Q &amp; A afterwards. Like, how can we do this? What can we do to turn this around? And this guy John Waters says:</p>
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<h3>“We have to get the conversation going. Get people talking about it.”</h3>
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<p>Also there is that fear, because people are afraid they might lose their jobs, and all this kind of stuff. And that is understandable. There’s also the friction maybe, within families, with matters like this. I know many people who have had friction within their families.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes. That’s right, lose your fear! That’s one of the most important things. And I’m telling you it is extremely liberating! And in spite of all the things that have happened to me, for example, I have zero regrets! I have absolutely no regrets! I never ever, you know, perhaps in the evening, just before going to sleep, say to myself:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Gosh, darn! If only I hadn’t done that little video! If only I hadn’t done this, or that! That caused all these subsequent things to happen in my life!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">No! Never! Not once have I felt that way, because it is extremely liberating! That old saying:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The truth will set you free!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It really, really is true. So I would encourage people to lose their fear. It might mean you have some discomfort, it might mean a decrease in disposable income, it might mean a few things like that. However, the rewards are far greater! It liberates you! It is an uplifting that there’s nothing that can compare really. And while I was in jail, I felt that as well. And I wrote that in some letters to people too that, if they were concerned that I was going to be in a deep dark depression in there, or something. No! No! I said I feel a 1,000 times freer than the jail boss, for instance. I would never want to change places with the jail boss there, and I felt free, still. It was only in body that I was incarcerated, and even with that though, once I kind of found my, &#8230; I mean, in the beginning, of course, it was a shock, and it was difficult to sort of de-stress myself about my concerns about the home front. I was sort of ripped out of my life, right? Out of my normal life — whatever normal is anymore, anyway — that it had already changed so much through the ritual defamation.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But then once I kind of settled into the fact that I couldn’t do anything about it, I didn’t have the key, they had the keys. They had the power to turn the keys and dictate the routine of my day. Like okay, open the doors at 10:00, you go in the courtyard, and bring the hot meal at 11:15, and then lock the doors again, and open the doors again, for an hour and a half in the afternoon.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so they had the control over my daily life. However, once I resigned myself to, okay, this is where I am for now, I can’t do anything about it, well, I’ll just make the best of it! And I really did! I made the best of it. And I can tell you that for the most part I was in a very good mood. And yes, and you do get to know other people there. You become very close friends with other prisoners with whom you can share a little bit of what you’re going through there. We’re all in the same boat there! One tends to be not judgmental. You take people at face value, who they are, while there. And I’m telling you, I’m not the only person there and it shouldn’t be there, like in terms of being innocent. True wrong doing, right? And you just get into, well I got into a very good rhythm and had a good routine going. And yeah, it was fine that way. I’m not saying that a voluntary place to be. I didn’t go knock on the door on January 3rd and say, :</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“</span><span style="color: #0000ff;">Hey! Do you have another room? And can I just come in?</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I’d like to stay a while, and have bars across my window!</span><span style="color: #0000ff;">”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">No, it’s not like that at all. But once you’re there and you can’t do anything about it, well you make the most of it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I’m telling you, it was a huge education, like, I learned so much! And you could just sit back and watch things happen to, and learn about other people’s story. I’m telling you, I learned a lot of things there that, oh my goodness, what an education that was! And I would say I got stronger and grew. I grew in different ways. I learned a lot, but I grew I think in a spiritual way, as well. And yeah, I made the best of my time there, I could say.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Now, because I do know of few other people who were incarcerated for saying the wrong thing, or doing the wrong thing, or was perceived to be the wrong thing. And they came out even stronger, they didn’t come out in repentance to the government:</p>
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<h3>“Oh I’m sorry! Oh my God!”</h3>
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<p>They were actually coming out stronger and more committed to the cause, I think. So maybe sending people to jail isn’t such a good thing!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:55]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s exactly right!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> I think you had your music as well to help you. Were you allowed to play? I know you’re an accomplished violinist. Were you allowed to play the violin much, or what?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well thank you for asking about that. Yes. So I was incarcerated January 3rd, and I believe it was March 22nd that I got my violin into the jail. And, of course, I had no idea how long I was going to be there, and whatnot. So I was very concerned at first that I’m going to lose my skills. I’m going to lose all those tunes I have in my head, as well. Like I play a variety of types of music so not just classical music but also a lot of fiddle tunes and a lot of those are by memory in my head. And so I made lists of the tunes, the names of them, right at the beginning I wrote down every tune name that I could remember. And then every day I would just hum the melodies to these tunes, like maybe three, or four, or five of them each day, to keep them in my head. Because I was quite worried that I would lose them because, you know, with that kind of thing if you don’t play them, you lose them. I have to have a little sip here. My throat is getting, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, excuse me, my lawyer, who is a brilliant, brilliant, lawyer, I cannot say enough about this man who represented me! He gave a very good argument to the court. He had to, we had to get court approval for getting the violin in. And it was all his idea to do this, too. But he argued, very well, that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Look, I was there as an innocent person, because if you have not yet been charged charged and convicted then you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. No matter what they think of you! No matter what kind of an evil &#8216;Nazi&#8217;, terrible persons they label me as. I am technically still innocent until proven guilty!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he argued that as a musician, who makes her living as a musician, everybody knows that if you don’t practice your instrument, you’re going to lose your skills. Thereby I would be losing my ability to make a living!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, I mean, just putting aside the fact that they’ve just ripped me out of my normal life, so I don’t have my capacity to make a living now, anyway. But just putting that aside, there they are holding me, awaiting some kind of a trial, that’s at some unknown date in the future. And possibly a long sentence. You just don’t know, right? Anyway, he argued that they were already punishing me by not allowing me to have my violin with me. They were already punishing me, and I am innocent, right? So that was his argument. He made it much shorter than in my description, just now. He was very articulate and succinct. And it took a while for them to decide. But they then decided “<em>yes</em>”, but then it still had to go through the prison authorities. And I’m telling you, they make their own rules there, which override the court if they deem it for security reasons — that’s always the catch all phrase:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, for ‘security reasons’ we’re going to do this, and not the other thing.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But anyway, they did then finally permit me to have it. And I’m telling you that really improved my life a lot! It also opened the door for me, in many ways, into other people’s hearts!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I can say, because people enjoyed it, that I had it. It was very unusual. Long term guards there had never seen anything like that. And I got to play every Sunday in church. And so it was like a mini performance for me, a mini concert opportunity. And I practiced every day in my cell for about an hour. Like, I didn’t overdo it. I didn’t want to overdo it. Now the way the cells are there, we’re all surrounding a courtyard. So all the windows of the women’s prison, it’s a sort of a small prison there for the women. Next door is the men’s prison, the much older Stadelheim, which is where Alfred is right now. And it’s huge!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the women’s prison, it’s quite new there, that they made next door. And we all face into the courtyard. And so the windows all face into the courtyard. Now, in the first few days that I had my violin, I was just so excited about this, I noticed that when I played and my window was cracked</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[open]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">a bit, suddenly I saw all these other heads at other windows, like heads and shoulders. You could see them all coming to the other windows, and I realized:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! They could hear me!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, then I just opened the window really wide, like not just cracked</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[open]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">but just opened it wide and stood in front of the window and played into the courtyard! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> And we had a bit of a, sort of a, quote, unquote, “<em>party</em>” for a few minutes! People were just loving it and applauding it!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Of course, it’s illegal there to talk even, from one cell to another, through the windows. So this was really, we were breaking all the rules! And then there was one woman who got all excited, and she didn’t like it at all, and she screamed at me, and said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Close your window if you’re going to practice that thing!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so I guess, maybe she was traumatized once by somebody who played the violin! I don’t know. And then the others all shouted back at her:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“No! No! We want more!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it was really quite funny! Anyway, I did that for a few days in a row, just for a few minutes each day where I had it wide open like that. Do a little little concert into the courtyard.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But then all that ended when a guard caught us. I didn’t realize there was a guard in one of the windows. I hadn’t seen her. And then she was jotting down everybody that she could see that was shouting, or applauding through the windows, because that was highly “<em>verboten</em>”<span style="color: #008000;"> [forbidden]</span>. And then they stormed my room and locked my windows shut for a few days! Like that was my punishment! And I got called to the jail boss’s office. And got the little “<em>disciplinary action</em>”! And it was really quite, &#8230; It was worth it anyway to have had that little bit of fun, like this joviality. And I didn’t care about the little bit of disciplinary action, it was all worth it. We had our fun.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[52:23]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, they didn’t take away the violin, thank goodness, that would have been the worst. But they also realized that the world was watching and paying attention. Because I did get a lot of mail. And that was a godsend for me! Because they probably would have treated me more strictly had I not been receiving all that mail, because they would have just thought they could get away with things. But there were other things that happened there, whereby I knew that the fact that I was getting all this mail was helping me a lot! Because they understood and realized that the world is watching. So anyway, they didn’t take away my violin, they let me have it, but they said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh you have to always have your windows closed when you’re practicing.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But after about a month, I started to crack it open again a little bit, but nobody was applauding any more openly through the window. But I got a lot of positive feedback at the courtyard hour. People were really enjoying it. They would close their eyes and dream for a moment that they were somewhere else, that they weren’t in prison, that they were in a normal place. And so I got a lot of that kind of feedback, you know, I mean, it could be hardened criminals that are telling me that!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> And it was very nice for me to have that extra little thing that made my life a little bit more like “<em>normal</em>”. And also that I could keep up my skills, because really, I mean, if I had gone 10 months without having my violin it would’ve taken a lot of work to get back into it. And it just provided a little bit of enjoyment for not just me, but for others. So I was very grateful for that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And it’s kind of, when you think of it, it’s these small little things that you’re stuck in there on your own, you don’t really know anybody, and you’re able to get your violin which you can play and you can cheer yourself up, and the people up, and probably even a prison guards up. You know what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Just little small things like that can always make a difference. And also it just kept you kind of sane in many ways, because this is the love of your life, the music.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Absolutely!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> It just keeps keeps you’re kind of, you know, &#8230; Because you could easily sink into a deep depression and all the rest of it, couldn’t you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Brian-Ruhe-with-Monika-Nov-2018-Stadelheim-Womens-Prison-Inside.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22724 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Brian-Ruhe-with-Monika-Nov-2018-Stadelheim-Womens-Prison-Inside.jpg" alt="" width="642" height="934" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Brian-Ruhe-with-Monika-Nov-2018-Stadelheim-Womens-Prison-Inside.jpg 642w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Brian-Ruhe-with-Monika-Nov-2018-Stadelheim-Womens-Prison-Inside-600x873.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 642px) 100vw, 642px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, I think you could. I mean, I had many things going for me that would prevent me from sinking into any kind of depression. Like I said I was in a good mood most of the time. So the violin was definitely one of those things. And the letters were another of those things that really were a lifeline for me! And with that I would like to encourage people to write letters to political prisoners and Alfred, my brother, he’s in Stadelheim jail — I’m sure that you will probably put his address into the description, or something. But sometimes people say they don’t know what to write, and they are afraid to write because they don’t know what to write.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, you don’t have to write anything that is controversial, or political. In fact, it’s probably just as well if you don’t, but it’s the support, it’s the encouragement. You could just write about your pet dog, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> or a funny story, or whatever! It just doesn’t matter what you write, but the fact that you’re writing something. It could just be two lines, and it’s very encouraging for the person in the prison, and it also shows “<em>them</em>”, you know, the staff, the guards, and the court, and whatnot, it shows them, this person has not been forgotten, they’re not alone. And, that is a really good thing, if the they are shown that we are watching what’s going on, and we are many! That does help a lot.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">For example, I’ll just give you a little story too while I was in prison there with the mail. Like, when you are still awaiting trial, all the mail goes through the court. They read it and they might photocopy letters that they deem they want to use as evidence, and all this stuff, and whatnot. But they read it and they send it on to the jail, and then the jail people check it for inserts, or if anything has been smuggled in, or whatever. So they check it again.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, if it goes through the courts it’s supposed to be opened in front of us, and I realized after a while, and I learned from other prisoners what the rules were on that. And they’re supposed to open these big brown envelopes in front of us! To do the final check for smuggled goods, or inserts. But mine were all opened already. And so the mail room in the basement downstairs, they were already opening mine and they were doing another check in front of my eyes. But that was like the 3rd check now through my mail. So I was getting extra special treatment there, in terms of having my letters controlled. So I called a meeting with the jail boss on this. I requested a meeting, and I had a meeting. And I brought this up and I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This is against the law! You should be opening in front of my eyes in the office here.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And she said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh no, in some special cases we open it already, in advance, you know, it’s a special case.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“What do you mean? Why special?”</span></h3>
<h3></h3>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, you know, for the safety and security of the institution.”</span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, because I was challenging her on the legality of it. And she pulled a binder off the shelf and showed, you know, “<em>safety and security</em>” and all that stuff. That catch-all phrase, right? That they use when they want to do things against us and keeping things secret. It’s always that catch-all phrase:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, for security reasons! We can’t tell you this and we can’t tell you that. And we can do this, and we can do that.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, so I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! Okay, well why? What’s this going to help?”</span></h3>
<h3></h3>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well in case you’re making plans! Maybe you’re making a gang here, or gathering followers, or whatever.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, that means you’re reading my outgoing mail? I am sealing those envelopes to the court and sending them direct there. But you’re reading those too?”</span></h3>
<h3></h3>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh no, just the incoming mail.”</span></h3>
<h3></h3>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“So, how are you going to find out about my plans, and my gang members, or whatever?” <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And she says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well they might be responding to your letter and saying, ‘Oh yes! Good plan! Good plan!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Something like that. And I just burst out laughing at that point, because it was just getting more and more ludicrous. And then at some point I just said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You know, if you’re so worried about my conversations that I’m having here with other prisoners, then really you should be putting me into isolation, like into solitary confinement.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I just said that right to her face. And she did not blink an eye, and she said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“That’s the next step!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I did not blink an eye either, and I said to her:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The world is watching!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong> </span>And that was about the end of that meeting with her. And I stood up and left. But I was very proud, and confident, and I think she was probably purple in the face, by then. She did not like me at all, the jail boss! Thank goodness I didn’t have very many interactions with her, or didn’t have to deal with her on a day-to-day basis. That was the big boss. But it was really true, that she knew that the world was watching! She knew I was right about that. And I think that give me a degree of safety. Because, I mean, it was a little bit uppity of me to say to her:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You really you should be putting me into solitary, if you’re so worried about things I’m talking about here.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I just felt I could just get away with it! And I did. And they didn’t put me into solitary confinement, no way!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I told you that she didn’t like me very much, I knew that. But, the guards, I have to tell you that from the beginning to the end there was a real transformation in how I was being treated in that jail. When I left and, of course, for months prior to leaving, I was being treated very well, with respect. I mean, they’re doing their job okay, they have to do their job and all that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they are strict and it’s not like they’re giving me special favors. But they treated me well. And in the beginning it was not like that. I was the “<em>Nazi</em>” coming in, and this is in “<em>reeducated</em>” Germany, where they’re all indoctrinated and programmed. And here I am, the “<em>Nazi</em>” coming in. And so I got kind of “<em>extra special</em>” treatment in the beginning, and I’m putting that in quotation marks. They really try to humiliate and degrade you in all kinds of ways.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I think other prisoners also receive that kind of humiliating treatment, but they kind of loaded an extra dose of that on for me. And I know that for sure, because there were certain guards that, they just, &#8230; Oh my goodness! They just couldn’t stand that “<em>Nazi</em>”! And they gave me sometimes an earful.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, so that was an interesting transformation that took place through the course of time. And I think, because they saw that I was just a normal human being, and I was polite with them, and just tried to be friendly and normal. And they also can see that I’m in a pretty good mood most of the time. I’m getting along with other prisoners. I’m not creating strife, or conflict. And, in fact, sometimes I would mediate between people to try to smooth things out, that kind of thing. I mean, yeah it’s just life in prison, and I’m telling you, by the time I left I was being treated very well.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[62:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Right. We’re just on the hour mark, or just over it. We can take a musical break, but before just that, Monika, I sent you a card ages ago. I don’t know if you remember, you probably got hundreds of them, but again it was just a simple message just saying I was thinking about you and praying for you and wishing you all the best. You know, that’s all you have to write.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I have a Christmas card here at home which I’m going to be sending off to Alfred. And I would urge everybody who is listening tonight to send Alfred a Christmas card! It’s that time of year. And I’ll just give out the address here, but we’ll put it in the show notes afterwards. It’s:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer.</strong><br />
<strong>Stadelheim Prison.</strong><br />
<strong>Stadelheimer Straße.</strong><br />
<strong>81549 Munich.</strong><br />
<strong>Germany.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’ll cheer him up no end. Just send loads of Christmas cards to him and just wish him a Merry Christmas, that’s all. You don’t have to say anything else. That will just cheer him up no end, I’m sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As you said Monika, it helped you big time, and I’m sure it’s going to help him. And we have to give him the support now because he’s there, where you were. We should keep him in our thoughts this time of year. It’s not going to be nice to be stuck in a prison at this time year, either.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That is for sure!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> So let’s do that guys, just get the cards out, it’s a simple thing to do. And it just makes a huge difference.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, I’ll tell you what we’ll do, we’re going to play a song. I’m sure you might have heard of Monika, her name is Loreena McKennitt. She’s Canadian.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh yes! Love her music.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> I particularly like this song that I think she wrote when she came to Ireland. She connected with her Irish roots. And it’s called “<em>The Old Ways</em>”. And really, when you think about it, the old ways, okay, they weren’t perfect but they were a lot better than they are now, that’s for sure! And we can learn a lot from it. So we’re play this song, it goes on for about 5 minutes, so Monika, if you want to get a glass of water, or tea, or coffee, whatever. We’ll be back in 5 minutes folks and we’ll continue with this great conversation! So stick with us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[64:19]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, welcome back everybody! A beautiful song there by Loreena McKennitt, called “<em>The Old Ways</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That is the kind of music that just drives me on! Sometimes when you feel a bit down about all the stuff that’s ing on, the madness that is ing on in this world you just kind of go back to the old ways, think about our ancestors and what sacrifices they made. We’ve got to carry the torch forward, it’s as simple as that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We have a special guest tonight, Monika Schaefer. We had a great first hour talking about her experiences. Welcome back Monika!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Right, let’s go into the actual trial that yourself and Alfred went through, because I was reading a lot of this as it was going on. I never saw such a kangaroo court in all my life! An unbelievable nonsense! And I know a lot about law, because I’ve been going through my own situation regards the banks. And I see the lies and the deception, the corruption that is going on in there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in Germany it just seems to be a lot worse, from what I can see. I was shaking my head of disbelief. So anyway did you want to just kind of just go back to when it all started? So you were in prison at the time, but then Alfred was speaking out. You take it from there, Monika.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Okay. Yeah I’ll take it from there then. Yes, one day short of the 6 month deadline that they have, for how long they can hold a prisoner before trial begins — 6 months in Germany — one day before that, the trial began, July second. Now they would have just renewed that. It wouldn’t have been a problem for them, because I did meet other prisoners that were there a lot longer than I was without trial. So the things that go on in the prisons in Germany are just something that is unbelievable! I was shocked to learn that! Anyway it did start on July second. At first they had scheduled four days, then they scheduled seven days for the trial. But they just wanted to get it over with and done! And, you know, wipe their hands clean of it. They already had the verdict, of course, we know that. This was just for show, now. I mean, they made their verdict a long time ago, and now they need to to, &#8230; Because they still have laws, and it’s not quite overtly a dictatorship, but it certainly is covertly, one!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And yeah, that was the first time that I had seen Alfred in the 6 months. And it was a very joyous and jovial, very wonderful meeting. But what had been unexpected for me when I walked into that door — of course I was escorted there handcuffed to the guard — suddenly I am confronted with all these cameras! And I hadn’t even considered that would happen. But it’s just like in the news that you watch on television, where somebody goes through this throng of reporters, and all the cameras are blitzing away! And this is quite a surprise to me. And the door where I came in, that’s where Alfred was sitting, and he didn’t see me first, because his back was to me. And I just tapped him on the shoulder and he jumps up and out of his chair! And we have a big hug, and then he turns towards the cameras and he’s just giving them the whole spiel, like:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Yeah! The lies are going down! And we’re winning!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong> </span>It was really great! </span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway it was quite the moment! It was such an adrenaline rush for me. Perhaps, because I just didn’t know what to expect. And, of course, having sat in jail for 6 months and then here is my first court day, you’re a little bit nervous going into that situation! Anyway, I could couldn’t even move my mouth, or my tongue, because everything had just became dry, I think it was a reaction as an adrenaline rush, reaction, or something. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway the camera people had to leave, because there were no cameras for the trial. So okay, got lead to my seat, this commotion all settled down then. And then there was the story of the water. Like, I needed water desperately, because like I said, I couldn’t even move my mouth! So if somebody had asked me a question, to even just answer my name, I wouldn’t even have been able to at that point. It was just completely, I was kind of paralyzed <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong> </span>And we couldn’t get water. No, it was not permitted! No you can’t have water here! So you have to have a recess. Okay, well let’s have a recess and get water now!<span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong> </span>I mean, this is the first half day, or the first day was such a show!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then there was the issue of the microphones! There was a beautiful microphone system, all of us had one in front of us. Like each judge, the prosecutor, the lawyers, Alfred and I, we each had a microphone in front of us. But the system wasn’t turned on. And we were trying to have them turn it on! And the judge just dismissed that. He says:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“No, no. We don’t need it. We can all hear each other.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But people from the gallery, the public gallery, were kind of shouting out that they couldn’t hear. And the judge got really angry at them for even opening their mouths. And he would just shout back at them, and say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You have nothing to say! It is not for you to speak. Keep your mouth closed! You’re not to open your mouths!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He was really angry at them. And he was dismissing us about the microphones:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We just don’t need them!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He brushed it aside.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[70:30]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, this went on for some time, and then I just stood up out of my chair and kind of spoke out of turn. But I just couldn’t believe this was going on. And I just stood up and said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Look, either this is a public trial, or it is not a public trial! If the public cannot hear, then they really are there just for show. And then what Alfred has been saying is true!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, of course, Alfred was calling it a Muppet Show, and he was also calling it an “<em>inquisition</em>”. And he had done some other things, like he didn’t stand up for the judge when the judge walked in. That was very very, you know, going against the rules, and the judge was trying to get him to stand up. And the judge just didn’t know what to do with all this. But when I said that about either this is a public trial, or this is not a public trial, and if the public cannot hear, then they are just there for show, and then it really is a Muppet Show. Then Alfred is correct in what he has been describing this as!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he still didn’t budge! Finally in exasperation I just muttered something about:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! My hearing isn’t so good anymore. I can’t hear.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that caught his attention! And I didn’t even, really say that very loudly. I just kind of muttered it, as I was frustrated. And suddenly though, his ears pricked up. He said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You can’t hear?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“No. No, I can’t hear.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s when he got the technician in, and it took all of one, or two minutes to get this system turned on, and then we had microphones. But I’m telling you that was not at the beginning, that was halfway through the day, after we had a few recesses in this and that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now this this, what Alfred was doing there, that landed him in jail, that day. So he was held in detention. Actually, I think he was held in a police cell that night. And he came out the next morning on bail and certain conditions. Like, he had to give up his passport and show up at the police a couple times a week, or something like that. And then he was free again that week to travel back to his home each night. But the trial went for four days in a row there, the first week. And they went back to his home on Friday and picked him up, and arrested him. And he has been in jail ever since. And I did not know that until the following week. Then we didn’t have trial days til the following Thursday. And we’re all sitting there at 10 in the morning, or 9:30 in the morning and there’s no Alfred! And I’m looking around wondering what’s going on. And somebody is muttering something about the transport from the jail. And I’m just thinking:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“What is going on?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And my lawyer looks me says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You don’t know?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Know what?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“He’s in jail.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I just about fell off my chair! I did not know that he had been in jail already for 6 days, at that point. Right next door to me, basically. And I was just devastated! I was shocked that there he was incarcerated now.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Was he held in contempt of court?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> No, not at that point, okay. So the first night that he was held in detention it was, because of the behavior in court. I guess “<em>contempt of court</em>”. Thank you for that word, yes. After that they found a reason to put him away. And, of course, they couldn’t stand the fact that he kept talking to the world, you know, he wasn’t shutting up. And they found some reason and they said, called it</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span>, <span style="color: #0000ff;">which means to darken, which means, hiding evidence, which is completely ridiculous, because Alfred is doing quite the opposite, he’s exposing things, he’s telling things, he’s talking, he’s not hiding any evidence of anything!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[74:36]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the other reason, I guess, they put was “<em>flight risk</em>”. And I mean, that was also ludicrous. It was clear that Alfred was very interested in attending court and being there for this inquisition. And basically giving them a big education and bringing them to the, well “<em>plausible deniability</em>”. That’s the term that he used a lot. They were going to be at the point of no return, that they could no longer use “<em>plausible deniability</em>”, as in, they didn’t understand it, or they didn’t know what was going on. I mean, that’s what the trial then was all about. But in the first week it was really quite tumultuous and wild. There were two other people besides Alfred who were thrown in jail. Sylvia Stolz that was thrown in jail for two days, for, in German</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">which means, like, what did you say the word you used there?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Contempt of court.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes, contempt of court. But she’s just said a word, at the end of the day, after court was already dismissed, but the judge heard her and didn’t like it. She just said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This is terror!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">When he had jailed Alfred. And she just said it very quietly, she’s a very soft spoken woman, but powerful! My goodness!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And she said that and the judge “<em>woof</em>” he just, you know, his ears pricked up and he and he threw in jail for to days for that. And then on day four, there was a fellow who had been attending all week, and he was thrown in jail and hauled off for four days. For something that he had said to the prosecutor outside of the court room. So again, not during court proceedings, but outside of the courtroom in the hallway. And he had said something to the prosecutor about:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“That he hoped that she would see the inside of a jail at some point.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He just started out saying “<em>shame!</em>” you know, “<em>shame on you!</em>” hoping that she would see the inside of a jail. And then they fabricated more that he did not say. And there were witnesses around, but those fabrications stuck. And they were a little bit stronger than what I just told you and I’m not going to repeat them. Because, you know, you repeat fabrications and suddenly they become true. And they weren’t. So anyway, they have to lie even in things like that! So they threw him away for four days. And it was interesting when they were doing this, he stood up and said — just out of concern — he said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Okay, what’s going to happen with my car?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because obviously he was worried that his car was going to get hauled off somewhere, it was parked somewhere where it shouldn’t be parked for four days. The judge at that point lost his temper, and he just started screaming at this guy! It was unbelievable! Screaming at him:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I don’t care what happens to your car! I just don’t want to see you! Get over here! I don’t care what’s going to happen! I don’t care what’s going out to you!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he just went off the rails there. And, in fact, the female judge beside him, she put her hand on his arm and trying to pull him down from his elevated state,</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Calm him down a bit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Calm him down. And that happened several more times during the course of the trial. That she had to kind of bring him down a little bit from his state. And she could see that he was doing things that were not good, that were mistakes on their part. And she would kind of touch him, put her hand on his arm. And then they recessed. And he even said that, :</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Yeah, we’re going to have to bring this down a little bit. We’re going to have a 20 minute recess.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Or whatever it was, to recompose, and come back. So the first week was just wild actually!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now I could go into more details about what took place there, but I’ll just tell you what basically transpired during the trial, and then we can talk about some of the details.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">At first, like I say, they wanted it to be over and done with very quickly. Why and how they thought it was going happen, is that they were going to just show little snippets, little clips, like a 30 second clip from this video and maybe a minute from that video. All the offending bits, the bits that they had outlined in the charges against Alfred and me.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now for my part, that six minute video was so short, they were just going to show that whole thing, when it came time for that. But with Alfred’s videos as, you know, he has made quite a few educational videos. Some of them are one hour long, some of them are half an hour long. And there are a number of them. Now they picked little snippets and said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This is bad! This is bad! This is bad! You go to jail!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Okay. Well, he had a brilliant strategy to force them to show the entire video so that they would be shown in context. And basically he did that by not answering certain questions that the judge was asking him, wanting to nail him, right away in that first week. They just wanted to nail him. Okay:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You produced this there, and that time, and there you pushed a button and sent it out to the internet.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, he just didn’t answer certain questions, the technical questions about where, and when, and how, and who, he produced this and put it on the Internet. Because those things then would just be enough for them to nail him! Because it’s against the law, and that’s it! :</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Ba-ta-boom ba-ta-bing! Off you go! And we’ll throw away the key while we’re at it!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, that kind of thing. So finally the exasperated judge — they could see that they were losing this battle — they decided:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Yes okay, we’re going to see the videos in their entirety.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So then a lot more days were ultimately scheduled in for the trial. And it went on till late October. It was supposed to be over in July, right! But anyway.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[80:44]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Basically that was huge chunk of time to see these videos. And if they were in English then the translator they had to give a translation, and the lawyers insisted that this be done properly. That they write the translations out so that it’s not just sort of simultaneous translation while the video was being shown. Because then you lose a lot. So they had to do that, like their homework. They had to translate these videos and then they would read the translations after the video was shown. And then there’d be question, answer, and discussion, and that kind of thing.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it was a huge education! Alfred’s whole strategy here was to make sure that not a single person could sit through that trial and not understand what is really going on in the world. They could not at some later point in time, when this regime has collapsed, and fallen. And if they find themselves on trial, that they would say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh we just didn’t understand it! We just didn’t know we’re just, you know, going with our understanding and following orders!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Instead of the truth is no defense, lies is no defense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> There you go!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> That is the way to look at it. They are lying through their teeth and they know it! And they are getting away with it. That is where we come in to call them out on their lies. And we keep calling them out, call them out, call them out!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly! Exactly!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> These people have been getting away with too much, for too long. I’ve had enough of them, and I’m sick of it! I’m sick of what they’re doing to my country! I’m sick of the doings of European countries! To our people! This is wrong! These lies have to come to the top and they will be exposed at some point, and it is getting there. We just have to stay strong and don’t give in.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, their means of upholding these lies are getting more and more extreme, so that it becomes more, and more, obvious that they are just upholding lies! That’s the thing, they’re kind of falling flat on their faces, because of the means that they use to keep these lies going.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> We will remember them Monika, we will remember those days and we will come to them and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Right! We hold you accountable!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Now you’re going to prison, we’re going to throw away the key! You’re going to be on the other side of it!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That’s right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And we’re definitely going to throw away the key this time. Because you people shouldn’t be out there! And don’t be coming go out with these excuses that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“We didn&#8217;t know!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yes you did! You knew exactly what you were doing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Of course, they know it. Absolutely they know it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I mean, they didn’t allow us to put evidence forth. Any of the motions for evidence, or requests for proof, that our side put forth, like Alfred, or his lawyer, or my lawyer, or myself, they rejected it. For example, if we wanted to have a historian, an historical expert to verify that what Alfred was reading out in these statements that he read out, like longish papers. That these are actually true, that these are real quotes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">For example, from jews who have said this is not about us. That they want to get rid of the White race, just simple things like that. Just minor details, okay, but that these are not just made up. We were not just making these things up. And an historical expert could come in and verify that these things were actually said by those people, the way that Alfred is putting it, either in his video, or in his statements that he was submitting. No! That was all rejected! All rejected!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I’ll tell you about one specific witness who they weren’t even going to have, but he had to be called be due to exposing the fact that this witness had written a big long letter to the judge and they were hiding this from us! So, this man’s name is <strong>Gerd Ittner.</strong> You have probably heard of him, and many of your listeners may have heard of him, because he has been a political prisoner in the, what they call the BRD, Germany, for years. He’s out now, but again, he was in jail again for 6 months, or so just recently.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Sorry-Mom-COVER-German.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22732 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Sorry-Mom-COVER-German.gif" alt="" width="663" height="1037" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: </span><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/06/24/entschuldigung-mama-ich-hatte-unrecht-was-den-holocaust-betrifft-transcript/" rel="bookmark"><span style="color: #008000;">Entschuldigung Mama, ich hatte Unrecht was den Holocaust betrifft — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, he originally was going to be called as a witness for this trial, the Schaefer Trial, then he was called off as a witness. Nobody explained why he was called off as a witness. But we think it’s because he’s in an “<em>inconvenient</em>” witness. And in the meantime he was in jail, and he wrote a very long letter to the judge. And it was because of our trial that he was going to be, how do you call it, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span>, like he was going to be taking, “<em>lightening our load</em>”, so to speak. I don’t know exactly the words to use. For example, one of the charges against me included the fact that in the video, “<strong><em>Dissidents Speak Out</em></strong>” which is an interview between Alfred and Gerd Ittner, they attached my 6 minute video at the end of that one, the German version. Because the German version was eliminated from the Internet in Germany very quickly. And Gerd Ittner had liked that video, and he decided he was going to give it more airtime, and put it on.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22731 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER-1.jpg" alt="" width="606" height="961" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER-1.jpg 606w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER-1-600x951.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 606px) 100vw, 606px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: </span><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/08/18/alfred-schaefer-a-dissident-speaking-out-gerhard-ittner-transcript/" rel="bookmark"><span style="color: #008000;">Alfred Schaefer – A Dissident Speaking Out – Gerhard Ittner — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, so they charged me for that, because they said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, in collusion with Gerd Ittner.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he was arguing that I didn’t even know. And that is true! I didn’t even know until after they did it, right? So it’s kind of like if you teach somebody the skills of building a fire and then they go down the street the next week and they light somebody’s house on fire, and now they charge you, because you taught them how to build a fire, like a bonfire in the backyard! It was just crazy logic!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, that plus he was also going to talk about the fact that the video interview that he did with Alfred, it was his inspiration, his talking, telling Alfred his own story, that inspired Alfred to go on and do all these videos. And then causing Alfred to be indicted now. So he was going to try to lighten that load, and take take the blame himself, right? And the judges didn’t let us know. But this was sent to the judges and they were hiding evidence. And they didn’t even share it with our lawyers, which is completely illegal!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But our lawyers caught wind of this long letter, and they brought it up. And suddenly the one judge turns red, purple in the face, and the other one goes White! They each had their physical reactions to this, because they knew that they really blew it! And suddenly he’s called in, yeah! I’m serious! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> suddenly Gerd Ittner got called in for the following court day. Which was the Monday. And this was on a Friday.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, I’ll go back a little bit to just how they give a verdict first and then create their story. Going back, before the trial, when they were giving me hearings to determine if I was to still continue staying on in jail awaiting trial, or if they would let me out to go to my brother’s place, sort of in a form of house arrest. And this happened twice, that I went before a judge during that 6 month period, once in March and once, I believe it was, in May. And I guess that’s part of the rules, every so often you have got to have a hearing. But they weren’t going to let me out. There’s no way!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But at the first hearing there was some hope that I would get out. In fact, the judge in that case seemed very sympathetic, and she was talking about how I’d only have to go maybe twice a week to the police station to present myself. Whereas my lawyer was saying:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I should go every day.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And she’d said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Twice a week would be enough.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it really was going towards this notion that I would be let out, but not to go away from Germany, but to await trial. And at that point we had no idea when the trial was. I didn’t even have my charges yet, until late April. And this was in March.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, she said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Okay, well I’ll let, you know, tomorrow by fax what the result is.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Everybody there thought that I was getting out. Even the guard that accompanied me, she was very nice, and said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, one more night in the jail, it’s not so bad with us, is it?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">She was being friendly. And the next day no news, and the day after that I kind of knew in my heart that I was getting out. And I had kind of a rough day that day because I started to get my hopes up! Then kind of crashed then. And then the day after that, I put the pictures back on the wall, because I had packed everything. Because, if you do get let out, you can’t go back in the cell. And then by Monday, or Tuesday, finally the reply came. And by then, I knew anyway. But the reply was “<em>No!</em>” And then they have to give reasons.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[90:10]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And one of the reasons was a complete fabrication! It was a complete lie! They said that something about my “<em>active letter writing</em>”. My letter correspondence with Gerd Ittner. Now I had not had a single letter from him, which also meant I had not written a single letter to him, because I wouldn’t have had an address, anyway. But not one letter went between us!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they’re using this is one of the reasons like, oh, by the way, the judge why she said she would give the answer the next day, because she had to still talk to the prosecutor. And that’s what did it. The prosecutor gave her a bunch of lies, and one of these lies was that I had this active letter writing correspondence with Gerd Ittner. And this was a dangerous thing, I guess. I don’t know how they justified still keeping me in. Maybe they just didn’t want me to communicate with him and this is preventative, rather than reactive.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But there you go, it was a complete and utter lie! And that’s how it changed from giving me all indications that they were going to let me out to:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“No, you’re staying in.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Right? So they give the verdict first, and then they make up the story. And so that was a hearing back in March. But fast forward to the trial, Gerd Ittner comes in. Then it didn’t work out in the end, because the judge was very impatient with him. And while he indicated that he wants to testify as a witness, but first he wanted to clarify this identity problem with him. Because they have him in there with the wrong name. But the judge was very impatient. Now the judge could have handled that differently and just said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Look okay, are you the person that appears in that video?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then he would have just said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Yes that is me.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But anyway, that’s neither here, nor there.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The important part they were going to avoid him, because he was an “<em>inconvenient</em>” witness.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I’ll tell you a little bit of an aside here, about another trial that was going on at the same time. But it had been going on for 5 years, and it finished up, I believe, it was in August that it finished up. And that was another trial which Gerd Ittner was supposed to be a witness too, but they kept him out of it, because they only want witnesses that are “<em>convenient</em>” to their side a story, and not the “<em>inconvenient</em>” witnesses, the ones who tell the truth and actually do have knowledge of what transpired. And that is the NSU. Did I tell you about that already in the first hour, I don’t think so?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> No you didn’t, no.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> The NSU, that’s stands for the National Socialist Underground. And this is a very interesting story, because it tells you how these operations happen, and a little bit about, you know, deception coming from the government agencies, and whatnot, or the spy agencies. So the National Socialist Underground, it was basically a terrorist organization. And there was a woman in jail there with me that I got to know a little bit. And she has now been given a verdict of life! Life in prison! And like I say this trial that went on for about 5 years and, of course, the whole time she’s in prison, and I think she was in prison already before that. And maybe 300 court days, and very, very, many witnesses. Okay. So that wrapped up.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I’ll just tell you in summary here a little bit about that, and it just knocks your socks off! Over 50 witnesses, or over 50 people, sorry, over 50 people it was revealed that they had been paid agents. So they’re called</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> is the letter V. And that stands for</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> And these are like, it’s like a secret agency type of thing, you know, to protect the Constitution type of agency in Germany. But this is a constitution built on a country that’s built on lies! And it’s not even a sovereign country, so the whole thing is just a criminal regime!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So there were over 50 people who were involved in this NSU. Some of whom became really good friends with this woman that I got to know, who was now a “<em>fall</em>” person. She was like one of the real people who was not a paid agent, but she was pulled into this organization. Now they could never prove her presence at any of these actual bombings, and actual events where people died. They actually could never prove her presence, but just from all the other surrounding, circumstantial evidence, and whatnot, they have convicted her to life in prison.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And get this, 120 years is how long they have locked the files away! So in 120 years if somebody wants to access them through Freedom of Information, or whatever rules they have at that time. Yeah, several generations later, they can access these files! Now what does that tell you?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> There’s something big to hide there!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Absolutely! So what they do is they create a story, and then, you know, they create the problem and then they create the solution. So the problem in this case was this organization was terrorizing immigrants okay, so well, these migrants, or invaders, as Alfred calls them. And that’s how they should be called, because they are being invited in by people who want to demolish us, and replace us, and destroyed us! And he’s their opportunists, and quite often they’re criminals themselves that, you know, maybe they’ve emptied their jails in some of these countries. Where they’ve just let them loose on our countries. And so, some of the people did die. There were some families that died and whatnot. And now this NSU, so National Socialists Underground, this is neo-Nazis, and there are all painted with this brush of being this, you know, they’re Nazis, they’re neo-Nazis! Oh my goodness, they’re radical right wing people!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And now all the people who are talking, raising their voices in concern about immigration policies, or about how we’ve been lied to about World War Two, are we being lied to about some of these other events going on now? We’re all painted with the same brush, all of these radical right wing people. And look at them, they’re violent, they kill people, and they’re awful! And then the general public, they don’t know what to make of this. And that’s how it goes, they create the problem, and they create the solution. Create a police state, more and more. And if anybody speaks out against all these people coming in, they scream “<em>racism</em>”, or they scream about xenophobia! They use all these weaponized words against us!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yes. And now that’s becoming a criminal act by voicing your opinion.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And that is why all these “<em>hate speech</em>” laws are being pushed in all these countries. That’s what they’re going for now, because people are beginning to talk about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> The conversation has begun, and it’s getting bigger, and it’s getting bigger. So they have to shut that down. And the way to shut it down is just label people “<em>neo-Nazis</em>”, “<em>fascists</em>”, whatever. Whatever they want. But the way I look at it, it’s just a label. They can put it on me, I can take it off again, okay? I just a sovereign man who cares about my country, my people! I don’t want to see it turned into a 3rd World slum, it’s as simple as that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> I have no animosity towards these people, wherever they come from. None at all. I wish them well in their countries. I’d love to see them thrive and do, but they don’t need to come here!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That is right! I am so glad you said that, no animosity towards these people. No. And think of it this way, if they are skilled people, and talented people, and they can do work, then they should have stayed home and done work in their own country and stayed there. They have abandoned their own countries. Now, if they are the criminals being let loose on us, we don’t want them either! Like go back home! I don’t have any personal animosity to any of them, either. And in jail I got along with everybody, no matter who they were really.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> You judge people by their character.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly! Exactly! It’s these policies that are being made by people who want to replace us and do us in. And that is the important point. So people need to open their eyes and learn about it. And also they need to learn to not react to those words! Just let it fall off like water off a duck’s back, and laugh back at their faces.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Laugh at them! That’s what we did on Thursday night when we were called “<em>Nazi scum, get off our streets!</em>” We just laughed at them! We all had our Irish flags. You know what flags they had? I saw an EU flag and a communist flag. That is what they had. There you go, that is very telling, isn’t it? And they were shouting:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“One race — human race!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All this kind of thing. These are just idiots! Brainwashed idiots! A few people tried to go up and talk to them. And ask them, like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Why are you like this? I mean, we’re just standing up for our own country.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Fff-off Nazi! Fff-off fascist scum!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> They have nothing to say!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> They have nothing to say! They’re complete brainwashed idiots! And sadly Monika a lot of them, I could see, are university students. And with know the universities now, are complete cultural Marxist cesspits!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[100:31]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> They are!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Where they’re not being educated at all, they are being programmed and pumped with this nonsense!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That is right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> I’m more worried, like this the next generation coming through, who are supposed to be educated. What are they going to be like? It’s bad now! What is it going to be like in 20 years time?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. The people who are getting it the easiest, are the people who are the ordinary folk working with their hands, the people who have not been “<em>highly educated</em>”, you know, in quotation marks. Because “<em>highly educated</em>” people have been highly programmed,</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> you know!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> A lot of people I meet in my circles of people who started up their own businesses and fell on hard times — no fault of their own — had literally everything taken off them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> So there’s nothing left, so they’re shouting out about it now and saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“I&#8217;ve not much left to loose.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I’m shouting out there. And maybe it has to kind of go down that way a bit. I don’t like to see people going through hardship, a lot of it is going on. But sometimes we have to kind of get into the darkness to come back into the light again.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> So we’re getting there. And another thing I wanted to bring up, I remember you were talking about it on the Andy Hitchcock Show, not too long ago. How any statements you make in your defense <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Monika chuckles]</strong></span> can be used against you as another offense!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And I believe Alfred is due back in court in January, sometime.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly! Now if that doesn’t make George Orwell roll over in his grave I don’t know what will! I mean, that is just mind blowing! What can you say? That in your own defense you cannot actually defend yourself. Like, for example, explaining how you reached these conclusions, or anything like that, because and you just recommitted another offence!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Ohhh!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It’s laughable, except it’s so serious. And I’ll tell you one other example. I know we’re probably getting almost towards the end here but, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> We can go over a bit, Monika. There’s no problem if you want to go over.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Okay. You were saying how the antifa people, or the counter demonstration people there, they just tell you to fff-off. They have nothing to say. </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, I’ll tell you about a little incident in the trial too, where the prosecutor had absolutely nothing to say! This was after my lawyer had given a very rousing and, just a super powerful speech, I think was about 45 minutes long, and just filled with good information. And it was just such well documented information and whatnot. And he read it out, because in Germany that’s another issue — but we don’t even have time to go into that — if it’s not submitted in writing there’s no record of it. It’s just unbelievable! It’s like a secret trial in the Deep Dark Ages, that nothing, there’s no records, no transcript, no recording, of what went on in the trial!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But anyway, he did this, and when it came time for the prosecutor — they always have an opportunity to give a rebuttal, that kind of thing — well, she stands up and she says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“You showed too much emotion in your speech!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">She was complaining about his tone of voice, because there was too much passion and emotion in it. Now, she had obviously found nothing that she could critique in the content of what he just said in this wonderful speech. And so she attacked him on that he was too passionate, or too emotional, and he looked over at the gallery once in a while, because he wasn’t just looking at judges. But it was just a surreal moment! And I did bring that up in my last word to that. I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“These issues that we’re talking about, this whole trial is about issues that go towards peace, and war, or destruction of our culture, or preservation of our people, and our culture. This is about the very fundamental question of life and death! And if we can not get emotional about these things, then what on earth can we get emotional about?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so I did raise that as an issue in my “<em>last word</em>”. And I just looked her straight in the eye when I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“If we can get emotional about these things what can we get emotional about?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I paused for a while and she starts squirming and having her funny smirk on her face that she always had when she was being like the devil. And it was surreal! It was surreal!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[105:08]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Now you see these judges and politicians, they are all career judges, career politicians. Where all they care about is the big paycheck they get every month. From us, mainly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> From us! And then of course, you know, the lawyers who are making off like bandits, as well. So it’s a big corrupt system going on there. I suppose for say, you and Alfred to be going in there, you’re just ordinary people, you are up against a huge machine here. I’ve seen it myself, in my own experience, it’s daunting. But there’s more and more people now, who are going through the same thing. Whether you, like, facing eviction from their home. The homes that they worked hard, &#8230; <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[accidental musical interruption]</strong></span>. People now are beginning to see this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then this UN Global Compact thing has woken up quite a few people over here, because our government can’t WAIT to sign on the dotted line! Like Trudeau, over there in Canada.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/UN-Compact-for-Migration-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22730 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/UN-Compact-for-Migration-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="831" height="1284" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/UN-Compact-for-Migration-COVER.jpg 831w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/UN-Compact-for-Migration-COVER-600x927.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/UN-Compact-for-Migration-COVER-768x1187.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/UN-Compact-for-Migration-COVER-663x1024.jpg 663w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 831px) 100vw, 831px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">See: </span></strong><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/27/salim-mansur-globalism-and-the-un-compact-for-migration-dec-2018-transcript/"><span style="color: #008000;">Salim Mansur – Globalism and the UN Compact for Migration, Dec 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now we have a gay, half Indian, prime minister over here, Leo Varadkar, an absolute traitor! I mean, this guy does not give a, I’ll say it, he doesn’t give a shit about the people of this country! None of this party, or none of the opposition, anybody! There’s no politicians who are there who will actually stand up for anything. We’re beginning to realize now it’s, of course, it’s up to us!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That’s right!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> We’ve got to get these gangsters out of out here!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And the thing is again, it’s about getting the conversation going and getting more and more people, and maybe put in some kind of political party. And there are couple who are out there. I mean, the only problem I find with political parties is that they can get corrupted, as well, and infiltrated.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That’s right, they do get infiltrated. It’s like this Catch 22, how do you come up against it?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Exactly! So we have to be aware of all of these things, we have to look at all the tricks that they pull in the trade.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We can use against them, in many ways. But just keep exposing them for tie lies and corruption.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, that is right. Like their measures are getting more and more extreme. And it’s like the devil is dancing more wildly, and ever closer to the light. And the light being truth, and the people waking up. But the devil is dancing, closer and closer, to the light, so that the shadows get worse, darker and more clear cut! And I mean, that we are all witnessing how they do seem to be going quite berserk, and they make a lot of mistakes, and so this does help a lot of people to see and wake up about it. So yeah, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alison-Chabloz-No-regrets-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22729 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alison-Chabloz-No-regrets-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="632" height="974" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alison-Chabloz-No-regrets-COVER.jpg 632w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alison-Chabloz-No-regrets-COVER-600x925.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 632px) 100vw, 632px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>See:</strong> </span><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/02/20/andrew-hitchcock-with-alison-chabloz-no-regrets-transcript/"><span style="color: #008000;">Andrew Hitchcock with Alison Chabloz – “No Regrets!” — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Your trial and Alfred’s trial has shown that. See what happened to <strong>Alison Chabloz</strong> in the UK, same thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> She didn’t go to prison, but she’s on a suspended sentence. But she hasn’t shut up either. She can’t go on social media, but she’s still writing, still calling out the lies of this organization called the “<em>Campaign Against Anti-semitism</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Fetcho-Inside-the-Eye-Live-Alison-Chabloz-—-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22728 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Fetcho-Inside-the-Eye-Live-Alison-Chabloz-—-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="631" height="972" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Fetcho-Inside-the-Eye-Live-Alison-Chabloz-—-COVER.jpg 631w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Fetcho-Inside-the-Eye-Live-Alison-Chabloz-—-COVER-600x924.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 631px) 100vw, 631px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">See: </span></strong><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/03/06/inside-the-eye-live-with-alison-chabloz-mar-2018-transcript/" rel="bookmark"><span style="color: #008000;">Inside the Eye Live with Alison Chabloz – Mar 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> She’s received death threats and all this type of stuff.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh my goodness!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> I mean that’s a criminal offence right there! Where are the police there? Where are they? Where are they?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh! And speaking of that kind of thing. Like the things they do to us, and our comrades, and then they call us the “<em>haters</em>”!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> And they’re charging us for “<em>hate</em>” speech! And what is this “<em>hate speech</em>” thing anyway? When I talk to ordinary people about free speech and then they say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, oh, of course, I believe in freedom of speech! But hate speech that’s different!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then you try to call them out on, what is that? What is “<em>hate speech</em>”?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Well, we’re not preaching “<em>hate</em>”, Monika! Were preaching love! Love for our people, love for our country!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly! And during the trial whenever there were non-court days following trial days, I would be telling my friends in prison how they were proving to us, over and over again, how they were supporting lies and that truth was on our side. And just by the things they were doing, and saying, in court and not allowing us to bring evidence. And just everything they’re doing.<br />
</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, this prosecutor complaining about the emotion that my lawyer showed, critiquing what he said. So I was quite joyful, and happy, and telling them how we’re proving, over and over, how the truth lies on our side. Of course, I realized that wasn’t going to necessarily go in our favor, but I was just happy about it anyway. And then at the very end the judge said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We proved over and over again what haters we were!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then he looks right at me and he says:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! And we even learned that musicians and composers can be good haters too!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">It was quite something! I mean, just everything is inverted! Everything is inverted!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[110:46]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Everything! I’ve just come to realize that pretty much everything we’ve been told is a lie! Pretty much everything!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> If it’s not a lie it’s been spun out in some way which suits them but not us. We’re being shafted, the ordinary folks of our country! We have been lied to, shouted to, and robbed!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Our country has been stolen from underneath out feet!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We need to really get ourselves together here to save our civilization.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> We really do.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> I’m committed to this! I don’t care, I’m going off, I’m ready! I’m ready for it! And I’ll do what I can.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s got to be said a lot of people are waking up. I spoke to a lot of people last Thursday night who know all about the jewish Question. They know big time what’s going on! And it was very refreshing, because I thought a lot of them were just kind of wanting to go on about, you know, :</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3>“The Muslims are taking over!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yes. We know they are all coming over and we don’t want them here, particularly. We’d rather they stay in our own country and do their our own thing. Not against them or anything, but we don’t want them here. But we have to look beyond who’s controlling that. Who is on top of that pyramid? And people are beginning to get it now! And they know all about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” lie and are seeing it. And it’s very, it was really, it made my heart feel good, you know what I mean? Knowing that people, &#8230; I was in good form going home that night, knowing that my fellow folk are waking up to this and are beginning to realize this. And more, and more, people are doing it. That’s why, as I said they are coming go in now trying to bring in these “<em>hate speech</em>” laws.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Red-Ice-interviews-Dr-Andrew-Joyce-COVER-PART-I.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22727 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Red-Ice-interviews-Dr-Andrew-Joyce-COVER-PART-I.jpg" alt="" width="634" height="970" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Red-Ice-interviews-Dr-Andrew-Joyce-COVER-PART-I.jpg 634w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Red-Ice-interviews-Dr-Andrew-Joyce-COVER-PART-I-600x918.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>See:</strong> <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/06/03/red-ice-radio-dr-andrew-joyce-the-history-of-jewish-influence-transcript-part-1/" rel="bookmark">Red Ice Radio: Dr Andrew Joyce – The History of Jewish Influence — TRANSCRIPT (Part 1)</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> We can challenge all of that, because again, speaking your mind, or even being hateful, is not a crime!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That’s right!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> It’s as simple as that!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> And I like how you’ve expressed it too. Just, because you don’t want these people in your own country, doesn’t mean you have something personally against them as individuals. No! You just don’t want them in your own country.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That’s all!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Think about it. Bring it back to your own house. You are not going to invite all and sundry into your house, and feed them, and clothe them, and look after them, and give them everything! Of course, you’ll invite your friends and people you know. You’re going to be a nice host and look after people. We all do it. But you are not going to invite strangers in, to just take everything you have and then just throw you out! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Monika chuckles]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> But this is the same with our country, because our country is our home. This is our home! We have nowhere else to go to!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That’s right.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> So, we can’t emigrate to Nigeria, or Somalia. They won’t let us in. Wrong skin colour! Well that’s racist! There we go!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Didn’t you hear about it? The only people that are able to be racist are whites? Didn’t you hear that? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Oh yes! It’s the same again, blacks and Africans can come to Europe, and move in, call themselves “<em>migrants</em>” and “<em>refugees</em>”, or whatever. White South Africans? Oh, no! No! No! Can’t have them!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Isn’t that just something else! Oh my goodness! We should actually be looking towards South Africa to see what they have in mind with us. I mean, the real story of South Africa, because they certainly don’t talk about it in the mainstream media very much, what is actually going on there right now. It’s just an absolute tragedy what’s going on there.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-blind-eye-to-murder-of-Whites-in-SA-COVER-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22726 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-blind-eye-to-murder-of-Whites-in-SA-COVER-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="688" height="1061" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-blind-eye-to-murder-of-Whites-in-SA-COVER-Ver-2.jpg 688w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-blind-eye-to-murder-of-Whites-in-SA-COVER-Ver-2-600x925.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-blind-eye-to-murder-of-Whites-in-SA-COVER-Ver-2-664x1024.jpg 664w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">See: </span></strong><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2014/05/25/a-blind-eye-to-murder-of-whites-in-south-africa/" rel="bookmark"><span style="color: #008000;">A Blind Eye to Murder of Whites in South Africa</span></a></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Clearly. We’ve had guests on here about that.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, that’s good., you know, thing I’d like to say, kind of as a hopeful thing, is that they are in such a panic! And they keep showing us what a panic they’re in, you know, they’re trying to shut down this and that site. And they throw people in jail. That means they’re in a panic. Now if they’re in a panic, that should actually be a sign that there is hope for us. Because if there was no hope for us, then they wouldn’t have to resort to these measures. They’d already have it all all fixed up, and done with, right? But they don’t!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> No they don’t.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, that’s my message of hope! It gives me a lot of hope! I think that if they were so, &#8230; Why were they so worried about me? Little old me!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Like why were they worried about me?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah, some little lady in Jasper, Alberta playing her violin. She’s a threat to humanity, somehow? That is amazing isn’t it?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-playing-violin.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22725 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-playing-violin.jpg" alt="" width="707" height="616" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-playing-violin.jpg 707w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-playing-violin-600x523.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 707px) 100vw, 707px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> That is crazy! A here’s little old me who’s worked most of my life, trying to take my house away. And I’m fighting back. I’m a threat. Because I talk to people who are of a like mind, or care about the country, I’m a “<em>fascist</em>”, a “<em>neo-Nazi</em>”! Whatever! But I don’t care! I don’t care about any of that. I just get on, talk to people about it. I used to be a little bit reticent a few years ago, but not anymore!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Time for all of that has stopped! I speak out my mind. If you disagree with me, fine!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you don’t want to listen to me, well go away then. Because I’m not going to talk to you if you don’t want to listen to me. But I’ll talk to people who want to listen to me. And there are people who are listening. There might be only one, or two, in a group of ten, but that is one, or two people. If somebody even listens to you a little bit, and gets a little bit of what you’re talking about, that’s a result!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. That’s great! Actually, having gone to jail for me, like I mean, I was already feeling quite free to speak oh before that. Like, as soon as that video</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Sorry Mom]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">went out into the world, I felt freed up by that. Because okay, now I’ve broken the big taboo, now I can just talk freely! That was very liberating for me.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then going to jail and then discovering that they do their verdict first anyway, and then they’ll put the show on afterwards, it also kind of gives a certain sense of freedom, ironically, you know?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> But it does. It frees you up, we’re free!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yes, you’re free! Because you don’t worry about anything anymore! You don’t worry about any of these labels, nothing! I don’t care about it any more. And I just get out now and just say, I speak my mind, and I don’t care what anybody, I don’t care about it really. I used to be like that:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3>“Oh! What will the neighbours think?”</h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That nonsense! Just say it! Speak your mind.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Exactly!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> It’s wonderful, let it go!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Before we finish up Monika, how is Alfred doing? Have you been in touch with him? Any kind of communication with him?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh yeah. He writes just such excellent letters. So we’re writing letters. They take a long time to get back and forth. But, you know, he is such a positive person and in good spirits! Pretty much all the time. Although it was heartbreaking just after the trial was over, because suddenly he felt very, very alone there. But he got over that pretty quick. And then, he’s its just such a positive guy! And he’s got a job, and the job is not to get rich! He’s making about one euro twenty an hour in the job, in the laundry there. But the job gets him out of his cell and socializing with other people.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alfred-and-Monika-Schaefer-in-Germany.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22708 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alfred-and-Monika-Schaefer-in-Germany.jpg" alt="" width="800" height="600" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alfred-and-Monika-Schaefer-in-Germany.jpg 800w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alfred-and-Monika-Schaefer-in-Germany-600x450.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alfred-and-Monika-Schaefer-in-Germany-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he’s such a sociable character too, that I think he’s going to find that people just gravitate towards him and like him. He’s funny as get go! I mean, he has me in stitches so much, and the thing is</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> I grew up with this guy, so I had the benefit of having that great sense of humor around me as we were growing up. And then during the trial too. Like once he was imprisoned, as well as me, and we’d be filed in and out of the court room from the basement dungeon’s waiting cells — because we’re in separate waiting cells always. Like, they wouldn’t allow us to be in the same waiting cell, because that means we might actually have, you know, conversation with each other.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But even the guards there, they got pretty friendly, and kind of turned a blind eye to us yakking the whole way down the halls and up the stairs, and all that. We were yakking, and just in stitches, laughing sometimes! I mean, his sense of humour is just terrific. And he always sees the silver lining of the cloud, in any situation. And we saw that before when they raided his home, and then he right away says:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Okay, well yeah, thank you very much for that opportunity! I’ll make another video out of that!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That type of thing. And he carries on in that vein, so it’s just wonderful. And I just want to stress to people that if you write letters, write cards, write whatever, just do it! It’s a really easy thing to do, but I know for younger people, they sometimes need instruction of how to do that! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong> </span>You know, you just have to stick a piece of paper in an envelope, seal it, put a stamp in the right hand corner, go to the post office, get a stamp for the right amount, and address it, and send it off! And I mean, I know it sounds funny to be giving instructions, but I know for a lot of younger people they’ve never sent a letter in the snail mail letter system!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Yeah, the old fashioned way of doing things. The old ways!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[120:27]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Well just put out the address. It’s coming go up for Christmas folks. And you still have time I’m sure. Send a Christmas card to Alfred. Just wish him a Merry Christmas, that’s all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Just say you’re thinking about him and all the rest of it. That is all. It’s:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer<br />
<del>Stadelheim Prison</del><br />
<del>Stadelheimer Straße</del><br />
<del>81549 Munich,</del><br />
<del>Germany</del></strong></p>
<p>[As of 2020]</p>
<p><strong>Hindenburgring 12</strong></p>
<p><strong>86899 Landberg am Lech</strong></p>
<p><strong>Germany</strong></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Free-Alfred-Schaefer-HEADER-Ver-9-20191225.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22722 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Free-Alfred-Schaefer-HEADER-Ver-9-20191225.jpg" alt="" width="1388" height="728" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Free-Alfred-Schaefer-HEADER-Ver-9-20191225.jpg 1388w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Free-Alfred-Schaefer-HEADER-Ver-9-20191225-600x315.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Free-Alfred-Schaefer-HEADER-Ver-9-20191225-768x403.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Free-Alfred-Schaefer-HEADER-Ver-9-20191225-1024x537.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1388px) 100vw, 1388px" /></a></p>
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<p>And I’m sure he’d love to get them from all his supporters all around the world who know what he’s been doing, what he’s going through. It looks like he could be there for a while. Do you ever think he might get out early, on good behavior, or something like that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Unfortunately they don’t, &#8230; Other prisoners, they could be violent criminals, they could be in there for whatever, they generally can be let out at two thirds, if they’re on good behavior, that kind of thing.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-19384 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials.jpg" alt="" width="1121" height="805" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials.jpg 1121w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-300x215.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-768x552.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-1024x735.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1121px) 100vw, 1121px" /></a></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But not political prisoners! No! They kept Ernst Zundel, they kept him until the very last 5 years sentence, the maximum sentence. They don’t let political prisoners out one day early, ever! But he would get out earlier if, for example, the regime changes! That if the regime falls! And once again Alfred is optimistic that, that will happen. He’s in now for 3 years two months. But they have another court case coming up in January. Plus he’s still got this Dresden thing hanging over his head, that still hasn’t been dealt with, finished, for a speech he gave there in, I think it was in 2017.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s all these things, like they intend to keep them in there for a long, long, time. But hopefully that’s not going to be the case.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> We are praying for him. We have to put ir out there into the universe, all of us, to stop it, because this is pure injustice! There’s only one word for it. This is totally wrong! Totally wrong!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, anyway Monika your last words please, to everybody. All I can say is, you’re a heroine! One day they will be naming streets in Germany for you, and Alfred, and others. Ernst Zundel, Robert Faurrison, and others who went before us.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> You know, we have to look to that day that we will get there. We have a big struggle ahead, there’s no doubt about that. But as long as we stand together, start talking to people about this, getting people to think, getting people’s heads out of mobile phones, and the TVs and all that nonsense, the mainstream media which is just filling their heads full of crap! Let’s get out there and do the ground! It’s up to us, as you have said. It’s up to us!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mass-brainwashing-by-jewish-media.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22721 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mass-brainwashing-by-jewish-media.jpg" alt="" width="1234" height="844" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mass-brainwashing-by-jewish-media.jpg 1234w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mass-brainwashing-by-jewish-media-600x410.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mass-brainwashing-by-jewish-media-768x525.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mass-brainwashing-by-jewish-media-1024x700.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1234px) 100vw, 1234px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It is indeed! It is indeed! It is up to us. And thank you for those very kind words. And I also want to just thank you, and Graham Hart, for putting this together, and just for doing all the work you’re doing. It just is so important, and it is up to us! We can’t just wait and hope that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh it’s going to get better all on its own!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because it isn’t going to get better all on its own! We need to do the work! And it is not just a little game. Our very existence is at stake here! It is big. This is the big times!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> We are living in credibly “<em>interesting times</em>”, as the Chinese say. We are at a unique point in history, because this is probably the first time where a civilization is at risk here, the White race, the White people!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But we’ve got a small window of opportunity to turn this around. But as each day goes by, that window gets smaller.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And we have a corrupt, &#8230; We know what’s running the whole show at the top of the pyramid, but we know that. But we’ve got a corrupt government, corrupt officials, everybody, playing their part for the shekels. And we’ve got to pull them down first, and then well come after the others. Because then they will have nothing. They’ve got nothing else to stand on, have they? They’ve got nothing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That’s right, because they suck their energy solely from us, or from the host. I mean, it is a parasitic relationship! They have used those words themselves. And we’re not just guessing this. It is that way, and we do need to regain our spirit, and regain our health. And part of that regaining of our health is from detoxifying ourselves of the lies and the deception. And what you said is so good, about unhooking from the television, and the mainstream. It is poison! It is poisoning our minds! Yes. And so we need to get healthy again and regain our spirits.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22205 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3.jpg" alt="" width="700" height="1072" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3.jpg 700w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3-600x919.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Tanstaafl-The-Jew-as-a-Parasite-COVER-Ver-3-669x1024.jpg 669w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">See: </span></strong><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/12/08/the-realist-report-tanstaafl-the-jew-as-a-parasite-transcript/" rel="bookmark"><span style="color: #008000;">The Realist Report – Tanstaafl: The Jew As A Parasite — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[125:40]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Eating healthy and doing the healthy things to get our body strong, because if we’re not strong, in ourselves we can’t fight this. And that is another way they’re attacking us, is on the health front. GMOs and fluoride in the water, all this type of stuff. Vaccines, we know what they are doing.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh yes!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> And that is another form of genocide that they are pushing on us, you know what I mean?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes! They’re attacking us chemically as well. That’s right, that is a whole other topic.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Another whole topic. Another whole show on it. They’re attacking us from every angle. And we’re kind of in a corner. But the one thing is, that there are more of us than there are of them. So the more of us that get together, &#8230; And it is growing, that’s why I’ll always kind of remain optimistic, even though I get very frustrated sometimes when I see it the apathy around me. But there are a lot of people, and I’ve met them, and it’s great to know that they are on my side. They’ll support me, I’ll support them! That’s what it’s all about. So there we go.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes! Thank you so much for having me on!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Monika, absolute pleasure having you on. Thank you! You lost pretty much a year of your life there, but you’ve come out, you’ve put out a beautiful message there. You’re still just standing strong, not giving up. We’re all praying for Alfred and wishing him well. Let’s keep it going, guys! It’s up to us, as you said.</p>
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<p>So Monika, thank you very much indeed! Wish you all the best for Christmas, and the New Year! May it be a lot better than the last one. Put it that way.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you so much, and to you too! I wish you all the best! Thank, you very much. Bye, bye.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> We will call it a day. Monika, if you want to stay on for a little bit afterwards, no problem.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> I certainly will. Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brizer:</strong> Hang in there. Folks, thanks very much for listening.</p>
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<p>We’ll be back again next week, same time, not sure the guest. I think we could be having Max Igan on. But I’m not sure yet. But all going well, next week, same time we’ll be back, okay. So take care folks! And as usual we’re going to sign off with a great song!</p>
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<h3>&#8220;<strong>The Goyim Know!</strong>&#8220;</h3>
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<p>And by god the goyim do know! And it’s growing! Take care folks.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Song lyrics]</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">https://lyricstranslate.com/en/unknown-Artist-english-goyim-know-lyrics.html</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">The Goyim Know.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">Hey, ha Chaim.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">(What?)</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">I think the goyim know.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">(That’s ridiculous, the goyim don’t know!)</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">I think they know, there.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">(They don’t know)</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">They know.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know, the goyim know.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">They know all the things that we have done.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">And now they’re telling everyone.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">They know all the things we did back then.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">And now we’re trying to do it again.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">But the goyim know, the goyim know.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">We wanna open the borders to their countries.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">And fill them with diversity.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">But the goyim know, the goyim know.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">(SOLO)</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know (the goyim know)</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know (the goyim know)</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">We wanna turn the women into men.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">And make the guys more feminine.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know (the goyim know)</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know (the goyim know)</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">We wanna make the white man, feel guilty.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">And put the black man all over the TV.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know (the goyim know)</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know (the goyim know)</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">And soon they won’t want us around.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">We’re gonna have to shut it down..</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">Cause the goyim know.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">The goyim know.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">Cause the goyim know.</span><br />
<span style="color: #993300;">Cause the goyim know.</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">See Also:</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/COVERS-for-SEE-ALSO-Monika-Schaefer-Interviews-since-release-3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22166 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/COVERS-for-SEE-ALSO-Monika-Schaefer-Interviews-since-release-3.jpg" alt="" width="972" height="615" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/COVERS-for-SEE-ALSO-Monika-Schaefer-Interviews-since-release-3.jpg 972w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/COVERS-for-SEE-ALSO-Monika-Schaefer-Interviews-since-release-3-600x380.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/COVERS-for-SEE-ALSO-Monika-Schaefer-Interviews-since-release-3-768x486.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 972px) 100vw, 972px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/11/17/brian-ruhe-monika-schaefers-first-public-appearance-since-imprisonment-in-germany-nov-2018-transcript/">Brian Ruhe — Monika Schaefer’s First Public Appearance Since Imprisonment in Germany! Nov 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/01/brian-ruhe-show-monika-schaefer-one-month-in-the-free-world-nov-26-2018-transcript/">Brian Ruhe Show — Monika Schaefer – One Month in the “Free World”, Nov 26, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/19/the-graham-hart-show-brizer-with-monika-schaefer-dec-2018-transcript/">The Graham Hart Show — Brizer with Monika Schaefer, Dec 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[[In this interview Dennis Fetcho talks with Alison Chabloz about her upcoming court appearance (March 7) after being charged under the Communications Act in the UK, for causing &#8220;gross offence&#8221; to some jews, by uploading several of her songs to &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/03/06/inside-the-eye-live-with-alison-chabloz-mar-2018-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this interview <strong>Dennis Fetcho</strong> talks with <strong>Alison Chabloz</strong> about her upcoming court appearance (March 7) after being charged under the <strong>Communications Act</strong> in the UK, for causing &#8220;<em>gross offence</em>&#8221; to some jews, by uploading several of her songs to YouTube, that parody the nonsense claimed by some alleged &#8220;<em>Holocaust survivors</em>&#8220;.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Readers are urged to show support for Alison by, if possible, attending her court appearance this Wednesday morning at Central London Magistrates Court   — KATANA.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>UPDATE:</strong> &#8220;A blogger accused of broadcasting anti-Semitic songs has told a court there was &#8220;no proof&#8221; gas chambers were used to kill Jewish people in World War Two. &#8230;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>The trial continues and a decision is expected in May</strong> [2018].&#8221;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Source: <a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-43321482">http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-43321482</a></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Inside the Eye Live</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">with</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Alison Chabloz</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Mar 3, 2018</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Click here for:<span style="color: #0000ff;"> <a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://insidetheeyelive.com/">Inside the Eye — Live!</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong class="watch-time-text">Published on Sat, Mar 3, 2018</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://grizzom.blogspot.jp/2018/03/dennis-fetcho-inside-eye-live-20180303.html">Dennis Fetcho, Inside the Eye &#8211; Live! 2018.03.03</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Dennis Fetcho</strong>, aka &#8220;<strong><em>The Fetch</em></strong>&#8220;, is an American ex-patriot living in Amman, Jordan.  He is the author of the <a href="http://illuminatusobservor.blogspot.com/">Illuminatus Observor</a>, a blog regarded by many as simply the finest Hermetic Qaballa blog in all of blogdom. The Fetch also has a second site called &#8220;<a href="http://insidetheeyelive.com/">Inside The Eye &#8211; Live!</a>&#8220;<b> </b></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Alison Chabloz</strong> appeared on Inside the Eye – Live! on Saturday, March 3, 2018. Alison’s first appearance in November of 2016 was greeted the following day with an arrest initiated by an Israeli front NGO/charity known as “<strong><em>The Committee Against Anti-Semitism</em></strong>”.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Alison will be in court on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 in what, hopefully, will bring about a successful closure for the interests of free speech and Western values in the face of Jewish onslaught against Western civilization.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Many items of discussion were raised in this entertaining and delightful interview, including the ongoing social media purges, destruction of social working groups, “<em>anti-Semitism</em>”, and so much more.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Definitely worth a listen for anyone interested in contemporary battles for the heart and soul of Western civilization.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Hour 1 &#8211; News And Current Events</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><b>Hour 2 &#8211; </b><b>Guest: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://alisonchabloz.wordpress.com/"><span class="author vcard">Alison Chabloz</span></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><b>Hour 3 &#8211; </b><b>News And Current Events</b></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">TRANSCRIPT</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Intro:</strong> Good morning everyone! Coming from somewhere in the Middle East. It is Saturday morning’s hottest streaming media political talk show! Inside the Eye Live with the Fetch!</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #993300;">If it was up to me I’d dump the Israelis tomorrow!</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #993300;">Hey good idea! Did someone tell us a standing member of Congress, that if it were up to them they would dump Israelis tomorrow?</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #993300;">Sound like something you might hear here on Inside the Eye Live.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #993300;">The Fetch! Oh what a man! Oh my god! You have to listen to that show! He was brilliant! I didn’t know he had gonads of steel, like that! And a mind like a frigging razor! I didn’t realize the was so clear. He cut through that cognitive dissonance that is going on in the whole patriot movement!</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #993300;">Now it’s time for Inside the Eye Live! Intelligent media for the politically aware!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[01:20]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> This is the Fetch. And you are live Inside the Eye. Today’s date is Saturday March third, 2018. A good Saturday morning to all of you listening in the United States, and Canada, and a good late afternoon and evening to all of you listening in European and Asian time zones. And, of course, wherever you are listening out there on the worldwide web, or our F.M. and micro F.M. Broadcasting outlets, may all be well with you and yours.</p>
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<p>The weather here in Riyadh is actually quite a comfortable day. Hitting a high of about seventy-five degrees right now. We’re certain as of the just sunset, just a few minutes ago we’re sitting at what? I don’t know something like seventy-one degrees so it’s really really nice. Got winds about seven miles per hour out of the south-east. And overall just sunny skies, just a beautiful day today. We’re going to be going down to what? Let’s see what the morning lows are going to be tomorrow. It looks like we’re going to go down to fifty-five degrees in the hour before sunrise, and throughout the useful part of the evening looks it like are going to be around sixty degrees, which is going to be about one o’clock in the morning here. So very, very nice weather for sure. So you have very, very nice weather.</p>
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<p>And again thanks for the feedback over there. We’re going to be pretty much same old same all again. A little bit of a rise in temperature over the next few days, but for the most part here in Riyadh it’s going to be in the seventies, lower eighty’s, and then we’re going to hit maybe ninety, ninety-two by next weekend, but that’s not expected to last. We’re getting that tease of the summer months now, where we are hitting the ninety’s, but we are not getting it to sustain. The folklore around these parts, there’s actually a folklore about the man who sold his jacket too soon! And it has to deal, excuse me while I drink some coffee folks, has to deal with this idea of people selling their winter cloths before the winter is really over.</p>
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<p>And so what happens here is it gets a little deceptive. You get a few days in the ninety’s. Next thing, you know, you’re almost down to freezing again. And so there’s that whole folklore story about the old man who sold his jacket too soon. Meaning that he just really wasn’t prepared to stick it out through the final part of the winter, and now he’s stuck in a bad situation, because he doesn’t have enough clothing to actually stay warm through the balance of the winter. But, you know, winter’s really coming to a draw, or to a close now, pretty quickly. We’ve only got a few weeks to go really before winter ends.</p>
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<p>But that’s not really relevant I guess for the people of Britain, where you’ve got still lots of snow and ice warnings throughout the UK. It looks like the kids are out there having fun now, sledding around. Authorities warn that the rail travelers and drivers should expect ongoing disruptions even as temperatures rose above freezing for the first time in a few days. Heathrow Airport warned travelers to check with airlines before arriving at the airport. So if you’re listening you might want to do that everybody. Two hospitals in southwest England continue to appeal for four by four drivers to help get essential staff to work. Saying that icy roads still pose a problem. There are thousands in the UK still without power and flood warnings remain for some coastal regions. The Met Office said that temperatures are likely to inch up to 7 degrees Celsius. That’s 44 degrees Fahrenheit in the southern city of Plymouth. So they’re starting to see a little bit of warmer weather, but they’ve had quite a chill blow through the UK recently.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Prinsengracht-canal.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25534" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Prinsengracht-canal.jpg" alt="" width="1280" height="720" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Prinsengracht-canal.jpg 1280w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Prinsengracht-canal-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Prinsengracht-canal-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Prinsengracht-canal-768x432.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px" /></a></p>
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<p>Meanwhile across the English Channel, the big chill, as they call it right now froze the canals in the Dutch capital of Amsterdam. So that means that you had ice on the historic <span class="st">Prinsengracht canal</span>, which was thick enough for residents to lace up their skates and glide across the surface! How cool is that? I mean, I would love to do that, quite frankly. Live in a city where your canals freeze over, put your ice skates on, and just kind of cruise down the canal! That’s faster than walking, that’s for darn sure. So what a lot of fun time! I love winter folks! Winter is a great time a year, I know it’s a bit expensive for the traveling and not the traveling but the, you know, the heating bills and things like that. But you gotta love snow! You got to just love the way that ice comes down and just coats everything White! And I know everybody, you know, we in the European civilization we’ve been instructed now that snow, that’s right! Even snow is politically incorrect and probably is racist! You know, Mother Nature had a very racist tone when she created the idea of snow. So, you know, how the Leftist nutcakes are out there in the world today.</p>
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<p>Now I was just out all week. I was at what’s called the AFED convention, here in Riyadh. And it’s called the “<em>Armed Forces Exposition for Diversifying</em>” their supplier base. There’s something like eighty thousand items were on display, not on display, not all eighty thousand, but some eighty thousand items are going up for bid. Basically taking that business away from US companies, and European companies for that matter and trying to diversify the supplier base here in Saudi to create jobs for their people. Mind you, that’s not a bad thing guys. Governments are creating jobs for their people, that’s not a bad thing. I had meetings and discussions with Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop, British Aerospace, and major heavyweights here like Taqnia, Sarvik.</p>
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<p>Had a great to actually discussion with Sarvik.</p>
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<p>Lets see, Armaco America on, Saudi Armaco America on. Really a lot of key players here were present. And so I worked the darn show for four days, five days, really had a lot of good high level meetings here about future plans going on inside of Saudi Arabia.</p>
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<p>And the excitement somewhat is there! Now as I was leaving today I just left the facility about five fifteen this afternoon and rushed home. Got home just ten minutes ago, quite frankly, to try to get set up for the radio show. But as I was there one of the, I think the Joint Chiefs of Staff, or the commander for the Saudi ground forces was there. He’s from the House of Saud. There was quite festivity. They had marching bands coming through, military marching bands, that would be. They had, really this guy had, like he was like, locally it’s like a rock star person. You know, we Americans, it’s not that big a deal. But nonetheless he did have some, you could see the energy coming off these guys! You know, it’s interesting if you guys are ever around power, or powerful people, they do carry about them a type of energy and a type of charisma. It’s hard to quantify, but you can certainly feel it, as they walk by. If you’re tuned into what is going on. And I can’t quite put my finger on it, but you can actually feel it! It’s rather a fascinating phenomenon.</p>
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<p>So he was cruising around. So I got some pictures in. Not with him. But I got some pictures of him and some people that we know, of interest to us. So it was really quite an interesting show. If you’ve never been to one of these trade shows that has to deal with defense, or military weapons, or anything of that nature. You might want to look into it. It’s actually quite good stuff, just to get yourself educated. I learned quite a bit today and all throughout the week. So we had quite a lot of fun for sure. As we visited the show here today.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[09:35]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Good morning! I guess I can say good morning, right everybody? It’s telephone lines. If you’d like to call and get in early one three two three two seven five one three one four. That’s one three two three two seven five one three one four. And we’re going to have a guest in hour number two. Alison Chabloz. She is the gal from the UK that’s being targeted by the Committee for Anti-Semitism, or Committee Against Anti-Semitism, or something.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Alison-Chabloz-No-regrets-Hardyal-Dhindsa-with-Campaign-Against-Anti-semitism-members.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25539" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Alison-Chabloz-No-regrets-Hardyal-Dhindsa-with-Campaign-Against-Anti-semitism-members.jpg" alt="" width="686" height="519" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Alison-Chabloz-No-regrets-Hardyal-Dhindsa-with-Campaign-Against-Anti-semitism-members.jpg 686w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Alison-Chabloz-No-regrets-Hardyal-Dhindsa-with-Campaign-Against-Anti-semitism-members-600x454.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 686px) 100vw, 686px" /></a></p>
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<p>It’s basically a troll operation by a couple of jewish goons. From observing from the outside, these guys are thugs! I mean, these are literally jewish thugs! That’s our observation, again from the outside. But inside of the UK, these thugs carry at least some weight. They’re able to bring trials, and they’re able to bring charges against people. And that obviously, is not a great thing! So we’re asking people to obviously try to make it out to the Westminster courthouse tomorrow <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Wed, 7th March]</strong></span>, to support Alison Chabloz and really support your own interests, as to preserving your ability to speak freely in the face of jewish tyranny. And so it’s very, very important that you get out there.</p>
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<p>You know, there’s been a lot of complaints to me recently. And they’re all valid, by the way. About jewish organizations, like Facebook, and Youtube. And then Twitter, which isn’t necessarily jewish, but works hand in hand with the ADL and the SPLC. And what is happening here is these anti-American, jewish organizations, like again the ADL and the SPLC especially. What they’ve done is they’re creating algorithms on behalf of, or in line, or in collaboration with Facebook, which is a jewish, let’s be honest Facebook is a jewish intel gathering site! YouTube, which is essentially now being super censored by jews, I guess, within the company. And then, of course, Twitter which is also censored quite heavily in favor of jews, and their agenda of bigotry, hate, or whatever you want to call it in there, with the way they use our language.</p>
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<p>So they’ve created this idea called an “<em>online hate index</em>”. And imagine that our entire civilization is being dominated, or suppressed, by a hyper criminal gang stalking type of operation, like the ADL, or the SPLC! Folks, these guys spy on you! They go back and they monitor what you said ten, five, six years ago! And should you ever get into a position of some type of influence, they have run your entire history and say:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>This person said this about jews in 2005! They must be terminated! They must apologize! They must bow down to us jews now! , or else! Terminate them!</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>You know, it’s like, guys this is a tyranny!</p>
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<p>There’s a battle, really waging! It’s just like swirling around us now for control of political thought, political opinion, political ideas!</p>
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<p>It’s become absolutely unconscionable that our major corporations, like a YouTube, like a Twitter, like a Facebook, that have garnered so much monopoly power, are able to participate in the political process, because that’s exactly what they are doing! When you have essentially a utility, like Facebook, like Twitter, like YouTube, that are engaged in taking sides inside of the political spectrum, they are no longer corporations serving the public interest. They are corporations serving a specific interest, or a special interest. And when it becomes clear that Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, are clearly coming down on the side of foreign powers, like Israel, like the cosmopolitan internationalists, like the jewish power structure inside of America, then we know, as Americans, as British, as Germans, Swedes, as a united European group, that we have a very serious enemy working within our midst!</p>
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<p>And, quite frankly, since these still remain from a, let’s just call a demographic still, they remained our majority positions, we should make it an absolute priority to do whatever is necessary to smash the ability of these corporations to control the flow of ideas! It is high time that the people that are making these decisions, start feeling the heat. And that the investor &#8230; <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[breaking up]</strong></span>.</p>
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<p>Everyone who are interested in the preservation of your nation states, really it’s time for real serious debate! Every day, absolutely, they brag about it. And it’s unconscionable that we continue with this treasonous fifth column in our midst and some obviously have to, … <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[breaking up]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Welcome back! It’s the Fetch Inside the Eye Live. Intelligent media for the politically aware, right here in revolution radio and Revolution dot com radio! Good Saturday morning everybody here on this March the third. Rapidly approaching, what do we call that, the spring equinox. And, of course, that means that winter will have officially finished. And we’re going to be rolling into spring before, you know, it! I know here I’ve only got a couple more months to go here on this particular contract and I’ll be out of the country. And obviously working overtime I think lately! Trying to get something happening! But yeah we are going to be out of Saudi Arabia ourselves, before, really, before summer. After right before the Ramadan holiday which is going to be somewhere around the month of Ramadan that is, somewhere around May sixteenth, the seventeenth. I’m hoping to wrap everything up and get home.</p>
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<p>So guys we’re trying to wrap things up. Just want to remind you that in hour number two Alison Chabloz is going to be coming on. Alison is, of course, kind of famous for really being assaulted, I don’t know if you could call assaulted, but targeted by what’s called “<em>C AA</em>”, which by all indications appears to be an Israeli hate organization. It goes after pretty much anybody and everybody that they feel like. That they feel like they can pick off in a trollish way. Their actions are uncouth, to say the least. Their actions are uncivilised, they’re barbaric. They’re basically jewish, in a nut shell!</p>
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<p>When we talk about jews and their uncouth, uncivilized, disgusting, quite frankly, mentality! Their lack of etiquette, their lack of morals, or lack of values, we’re often thinking about groups like the Committee Against Anti-Semitism, or something like that. Campaign Against, … anyway, a lot of people call this a fake NGO. But it is an Israeli run NGO. Israeli paid for NGO. And it’s really trying to stifle free speech in the UK.</p>
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<p>And, quite frankly, to those of you who are in the UK and understanding this message, you’ve got to get over there to the Westminster courthouse and make your stand! Let it be known that you are tired of these punks and thugs that happen to be, oh boy! Just happen to be jews! Always trying to stifle debate and real discourse here in the West. Look, they’re not part of our culture. They are not part of our civilization! And it’s time for us to accept that. And to start pushing back! , because there’s a hundred times, or a thousand times more of us than them! And as long as everybody’s just quiet and cowering in the face of this hyper rabid minority, well they’re going to keep pushing, because they don’t know any other way folks! They only know how to act like a bunch of idiots, and that’s just the way it goes. Deal with it! They don’t like you! They don’t like your civilization! They don’t like your culture! They’re going to do anything they can to supplant you and destroy you!</p>
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<p>So okay, understand that’s the game, and start to deal with it accordingly! That would be my advice.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[20:22]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And again, three to four dollars, five dollars a month would be a great thing! Now the <strong>Intel Cat Report</strong>, of course, is how we are partially sponsored here. It’s proudly sponsored by North Cacalacky Trading Post, goods services and solutions for all things great and small. It’s inconveniently located at the corner of Walk and Don’t Walk and, of course, by Blackbird Nine Breakfast Club. A radio show hosted by Blackbird Nine, aka, Frederick C. Blackburn. Frederick is an NSA whistleblower, 9/11 Truth advocate, former thirty-two degree Mason, and a former North Carolina House candidate. And you can hear Blackbird Nine’s Breakfast Club every Wednesday evening from eight to ten pm on the Spreeker network. For more information you can visit Blackbird Nine Trading Post dot org. That’s Blackbird Nine Trading Post dot org.</p>
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<p>Well, not a whole lot to report on the Cat Report today. It’s been very quiet this past week. The House has been quiet. Mating season everybody is pretty much over, you know. What that entails, is One Eye, the big guy, he is staying home again. He just kind of goes out does his thing. Stays out for an hour, or two. Kind of like wanders around and get some fresh air and by the afternoon hours one eye is right back inside the house chillin.</p>
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<p>And saw a nice picture of him today. He was up on their favorite perch. I got to say take some pictures of these so you guys can just see what I’m talking about. But when I was out there in the kitchen, just chillin, we still got the cardboard there, so that black cat can’t jump into our house. But he was chillin and sleepin. And it was kind of cute this morning, I was on the phone to Jordan and One Eye comes into the bedroom. And he does it meow everybody, he kind of talks to you. Actually, my cats don’t meow too much. They all kind of talk. And so he just came in the room and he just like meowing at Emilie. And hey, you know, hopped up on the bed, climbed up to her left shoulder and just laid his head down, a starting to rub his head into her, basically around her armpits! I hope she took a shower! That, I hope she did! I’m sure she did! But you have to wonder sometimes with the way the cats react. But he just was a sweetheart today as usual. Bruiser usually has a sweet heart quite frankly. So for a blind cat what a great little guy!</p>
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<p>But that’s about it you don’t not a whole lots going on right now. Not a whole lot around here quite frankly. The cats I used to feed Ma, she’s a mom again, you can see she’s nursing some kittens. She’s running around looking for food today. I saw our outside my hotel today. But it’s been very, very quiet, quite frankly. Even the fights, that I used to hear a lot around the house every night, sometimes two, three for a night they have been tapering down to one every other day. So it’s been very quiet. Cats just trying to get back to the routine of just being cats and not worrying about mating season., because mating season, if you really follow cats, it can be a really crazy, wild, insane time! , but that’s about it for the Intel Cat Report. Again probably sponsored by a North Cacalacky Trading Post, good services and solutions for all things great and small. And also, of course, by Blackbird Nine Breakfast Club. A radio show hosted by Blackbird Nine, aka Frederick C. Blackburn. And again you can hear Blackbird Nine Breakfast Club every Wednesday evening, from eight to ten pm on the Spreaker radio network.</p>
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<p>Oy Vey Moment. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Music]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[27:20]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[28:26]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And everybody, this week’s “<em>Oy Vey Moment</em>” is coming to us from Poland. And it really is some of the fallout coming from the recent passing and now suspension of a law that made it a crime to implicate Poland in the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. See it was, of course, Poles are actually quite guilty of murdering many, many Germans. In fact, perhaps over a million Germans. So the Poles are not innocent on this, by any stretch of the imagination. And that’s with all due respect to our listeners in Poland.</p>
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<p>I think all of us have an obligation, quite frankly, to recognize the crimes of our governments, and to deal with it in a professional way, and draw attention to it, so that we can really start to set the record straight. Because, quite frankly, a lot of us have been fighting this scourge called, really this jewish scourge, in all it’s different manifestations. And the Poles have done it, I guess in their way, from time, or from generations on. You know, from generations, some generations, or whatever. The Russians, of course, about their experiences. We Americans have lost many millions of people. Probably, quite frankly, to the scourge, through the various wars that jews have convinced us to fight. The Canadians equally are under a very heavy strain right now to jewish tyranny. The Brits themselves, are a proud people, who have had, of course, many of their crimes had been committed under the flag of Britain too.</p>
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<p>So guys to us, one of the things I think we should always do is recognize the crimes of the government, so we have a very fair understanding of history. Is not fair, quite frankly, for the Russians and the Poles, and in my opinion, again I’m not there, I don’t understand. But I know they’re at each others throats, quite often. I guess I can respect that. It’s their nature, their culture. But at the same time, a lot of the crimes committed over the last century was done by the jewish people themselves!</p>
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<p>They were some of the greatest mass murderers this planet has ever witnessed! In fact, they are probably the greatest mass murderers! It’s really the great thing that they brought to us, was misery! I think ,when you think of jews in Judaism, I think what we should all think about is deception, criminality, misery and things of this nature.</p>
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<p>So now the Simon Wiesenthal Center, which is again, brought to us by a guy <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Eli Wiesel]</strong></span> that was a fraud, who left Auschwitz, he joined the Germans to march away from Auschwitz. He joined the column of Germans and others. And then you would think to yourself, why would a jew like anybody, march with these Germans away from the front lines, when the Russians were coming to liberate your camp? Why did Simon Wiesenthal <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Eli Wiesel]</strong></span> do that? Why did nobody talk about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” in any of their memoirs? Churchill didn’t write about it. Eisenhower didn’t write about it. Nobody wrote about it! Until some many, many, years later, as jews started to gain a stranglehold on media. And, of course, they’ve always had a stranglehold, but let’s just call a larger stranglehold.</p>
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<p>So the point here is, that when history cannot support these jewish lies. And the lies can only be supported by absolute tyrannical methods, which is basically to try to jail you, remove you from your job, destroy your family, whatever the case is, because you don’t believe in it! Folks! I’ve been there! I have dealt with this issue since the early 2000s and even before that, I was still talking about it. And I understand the way that jews go after you, and how they will try to make you a victim! And whine like a bunch of crybabies, because they don’t like what they heard.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well now, you’ve got the Simon Wiesenthal, and I would tell the Simon Wiesenthal Center to get the hell out of my country! , because they’re joining in this intensifying, quote, unquote, “<em>dispute</em>” over the country’s past treatment of jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Look, if I am Poland, I’m going to bring up every single issue of jewish criminality within my country! I’m not going to hide the history, because I’m trying to protect Poland. I would be raising every single criminal act of the jewish people! Every single treasonous act of the jewish people! And then I would talk about how the jewish people mistreated the Poles and consequently they were treated overly fair under the circumstances.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Why on earth! Really! Why on earth should people continue to remain on the defensive in the face of an adversary who has no defense when you attack them with logic and reason? Let them! Seriously! Let the jewish people whine like a bunch of crybabies! Who cares? Keep raising the facts about their criminality! About their sadism! About their cannibalism! Whatever the case may be. Now there’s a couple of quotes here.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[33:41]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Rabbi, well it’s not a quote really, but Rabbi Marvin Hier. He’s the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal, &#8230; he’s the founder and the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. He cited, again get this, declassified US intelligence report, released by the organization this week that counters the Polish narrative. Nobody cares about fabricated US intel reports! Look! US intelligence, as an intelligence agency, is so fricken stupid, they sold the world on an idea of Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction! They have no credibility folks!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The US intelligence community is so, is so incompetent, they can’t even solve something as obvious as 9/11! Look, we’re not interested in jews bringing out some type of document about, quote, unquote, “<em>anti-Semitism</em>”! They’re trying to claim that there was a thirty-three page document from 1946 describing widespread anti-Semitism in Poland, after liberation from the Nazi occupied, or the German occupation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It states that some jews “<em>fearing for their lives</em>”, well who cares whether they were fearing for their lives! That’s not our business! If they want to fear for their lives, hell they fear for their lives now, when somebody says “<em>Oy Vey</em>” to them in the wrong tone! So who cares that these guys “<em>fear for their lives</em>”! How stupid do people have to be to keep reading and actually responding to this crap! Says that they:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Sought refuge in camps for displaced people in the US zone in Germany, rather than staying.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yes, because the people who were coming behind were also jewish and they were some of the most sadistic, disgustingly evil people, that has ever graced planet Earth! But jews don’t want to talk about that do they! They want to hide behind their little facade of whining victimhood! Don’t they? Now, they go out there:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>What made us released documents were comments by Polish officials that there were bad Poles, just like there were a few bad jews</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well no, there were a lot of bad jews! Jews were probably the most sinister, evil component of World War Two! And that is the part of the history that has never ever been sold, told, or acknowledged! And I think it’s time that jewish people start to acknowledge the fact that they were exceedingly evil during World War Two. They were guilty of war crimes during World War Two! They were promoting mass genocide during World War Two! They actually enacted mass genocide during World War Two! And it’s time that the jewish people start to acknowledge these crimes, and start to pay back everything they have taken from the West!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[36:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p>There’s no reason why governments in the West should continue to kowtow to this classless “<em>group think</em>” strategy used by the jewish people here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re talking here, Jasinsacken. He’s an aide to the prime minister. He insisted, Friday, yesterday, that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>The dispute is a misunderstanding. And that anti-Semitism exists across Europe.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Well again, anti-Semitism should exist across Europe! If it doesn’t exist, it means that Europeans are being idiots! , because the jewish people have made it very clear to everybody that it is their intent, their motive, and their motivation, to destroy European civilization! Well, if you’re not against these people, then you’ve got something wrong with you! You need to be against the jewish people. And no amount of “<em>anti-Semitism</em>” as they like to call it, or anti-jew sentiment, is unjustified here! No amount! It’s all justified!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[37:49]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Folks, they are not good people! They lie, they gaslight! They do whatever they can to gain a moral advantage over the people. It says here, Hier, whose parents emigrated from Poland in the twenties, said “<em>neither he, nor his organization is anti-Polish.</em>” No! It’s purely jewish! Which means that if it is, quote, unquote, “<em>jewish</em>” and it happens to be against Poland, then they don’t have a problem with that. So again, if you are Polish and your policies happen to be against the jewish people here, hey, just leave it. It’s not anti-Semitic! Hey, were just we’re just doing our thing, man! And it’s in our interests, and hey, we don’t give a crap what you jews think anymore! That’s how it has to be. And if you don’t like it, you are a foreign element by your own definition, get the heck out of our countries!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s what we created Israel for! That’s what the US <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Europeans]</strong></span> lost a hundred million people for, so that the Israelis, the jewish maniacs that run this planet, pretty much, in the West, have a place to go to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it says here:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Of course, there were no Polish death camps. But any scholar tell you, that the problem of anti-Semitism in Poland had nothing to do with communism.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Are you kidding me! Are these jews that much friggin pathetic that they got to lie to our faces like that! Everybody in the West at that time understood the pure evil of jews and their communist ideologies! It was very well-known. Everybody knew about it. So, how does Hier, some classless clown, get off gaslighting us by trying to tell us the opposite is actually true?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You see what I mean? It’s like a never-ending parade of lying to us! Straight to our face! In a form of intellectual violence, and they never, ever, even blink, about the way in which they go about lying to us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Poland, &#8230; This guy says here. He says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Poland would go really far by saying ‘We didn’t murder jews, but we have to acknowledge that anti-Semitism was a serious problem in Poland.’</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, you know, what, it’s time for jews to admit that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Look! You weren’t murdered in a bunch of Death Camps, so stop playing the game! And the justification for the anti-jewish sentiment in Europe was not only valid, but a necessary part of the society of that day! And that it was absolutely critical for people to hold anti-jewish sentiments, because jews were such a criminal force within these countries, within which they were staying!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s time for jews to start literally acknowledging their crimes, acknowledging the fact that they are anti Western! Acknowledging the fact that they are not patriotic to their people! That is absolutely what must start to happen! It’s not a one way street here, folks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:50]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>People should start demanding of jews, you should absolutely acknowledge all of your crimes! And you should come up with ways to compensate all of those who were victims of jewish crimes in the last century! And while we are at, it let’s talk about the Iraqis today, the American servicemen and their families, who have lost their loved ones, because of who knows what, that’s killed off <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[killed, or injured]</strong></span> half a million American servicemen since the Gulf War. Folks, all of this goes on!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We must recognize jewish terror! We must recognize that Auschwitz, Birkenau, and all of these camps were not, quote, unquote, “<em>death camps</em>”. They were labor camps. They were providing a safe haven for jews to hide out the war, while everybody else was dying all around them. They were swimming in swimming pools, they were working. Yeah, well I know jews, that’s a crime to make a jew work. I know that. You know, their fingernail might have broken, they are not a working class. They could never survive, if they cannot parasite seemingly over everybody else.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But look, there were no death camps, folks! And none of this is real, and really it is becoming high time that jewish people start to absolutely recognize this! I don’t want to see a wall of jews sitting out there like mug shots, showing, “<em>look at me, were all criminals, we were all criminals and we deserve to be here.</em>” It’s time for jews to start showing the pictures of the tens of millions of people they went out of their way and executed, murdered, etc., within our lands.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Folks we were, as Europeans, over thirty-three percent of the world’s population in the 1930s. Now, Europeans are less than ten percent. If you don’t figure out that there is an absolute campaign against Europeans to prevent births, to prevent population growth, to stifle growth, to destroy growth, and even to destroy life itself, as we’re witnessing through this mass immigration scam, ongoing in the West, then you are just really not paying attention anymore.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[43:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Hi everybody. Welcome back. It’s the Fetch, Inside the Eye Live. Intelligent media for the politically aware. I believe she’s now live, joining us from somewhere in the UK, Alison Chabloz. She became kind of famous by being charged with a private crime of promoting something, or other, that jews didn’t like. And I’m not exactly sure what this case is really all about, because it’s all a lot of nonsense to me!</p>
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<p>None the less, she’s here to join us. Alison Chabloz! Welcome back!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Thank you Dennis, it’s a great pleasure to be back again.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Yeah. I mean, you know, what I don’t like to over use my guests, you know. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Alison laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p>I’m not, you know, and people like to listen to me, so what can I do, you know? They say Fetch don’t bring on too many guests, we want to hear you talk. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Alison laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Your very good at that!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> You listen to the show, from time to time, don’t you?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes I do, yes I do! You’re great! You’re a wonderful radio broadcaster. Really.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Your audience should be a lot bigger.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> You know, what, I think we’re being throttled. But, you know, what the heck, you know, we’re doing the best we can, and you know, what it’s like. Real quick. You were on the show a year, or so ago, and the issue was then, you were just, I think, going to trial. Was that the case when you?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> No, you interviewed me, because I was banned from Twitter. That was, I mean, I’ve been going through problems, you know, I’d lost my job and the police were investigating some unwanted deliveries sent to my home address. And I think that investigation by then it being closed. But we spoke, the issue which led to you inviting me on was that I lost my Twitter account. And I think several of us at the same time had also lost theirs. So you kept a thread of that going, having me on. But that the funny thing is, that was obviously on a Saturday, it must have been the eleventh, or twelfth of November 2016, and the next day, there was a knock on the door, the next evening, and I was arrested! And that’s when my legal problems began.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Now, just so people who aren’t familiar, a lot of people are, because we kind of talk about your case from time to time. But really there is a non-government NGO called the, I think the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Campaign Against Anti-Semitism, I believe it is.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, a charity.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Well, it’s a NGO. Charity, NGO, the same thing. We believe it’s funded by Israel. We can’t really say that from a fact. But we believe it’s really an Israeli front, that I think, targets really a lot of the BDS people that are trying to raise awareness about BDS and sanctioning Israel. Is that kind of true about these guys, from your understanding?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[46:23]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yeah absolutely! And I think their objective, regarding people like me, another activist was one of their targets. Jez Turner, who you have also spoken to, I think, and had as a guest. And it’s that they want to bring about a legal precedent, which basically acts as a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial law, as there is in Germany, France, etc. So that’s also there. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">As well as going for the BDS, as well as, you know, trying to outlaw these boycotts of Israeli goods, etc., and to prevent the Boycott Divestment and Sanctions movement. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They also are, I think, tasked with trying to bring about a legal precedent via, mine is a test case for the moment. Jez Turners slightly different. He’s been charged under a different Act than me. But they’re going for me under the “<em>Communications Act</em>” to try and say that “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial, Revisionism, is grossly offensive. That’s how they’re trying to do it.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> What I don’t understand, and I follow some jewish logic, you hear my thing “<em>jewish logic</em>” which is as illogical as it gets. You have to call it “<em>jewish logic</em>”. And they talk about “<em>slandering in the memory of millions</em>”. I mean, have we reached peak stupidity within the jewish community, that they actually continue to sell that? And isn’t it about time that we the people, start to push back against this type of level of idiocy from the jewish community?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> What do they mean by “<em>slandering in the memory of millions</em>”? What a stupid thing is that! You’re going to make that a criminal offense? I mean, what type of bizarre world the jews live in where they believe this type of tyranny is even acceptable?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[48:21]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> There’s so much at stake, isn’t there, with the official narrative. And the mainstream, you can forget the mainstream. They’re still pumping out the weekly press releases from the Auschwitz museum. You know, they found such and such a carving, you know, by a prisoner who suffered, and six million jews died in the gas chambers! They are still pumping it out. And I think there is a push back, but we have been corralled. And hence the draconian censorship of social media, not only Twitter, but now Google in YouTube.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Since September last year, my YouTube channel has been banned in the UK!</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>This channel is no longer available. Please click here to unsubscribe.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Can you believe that? But my channel is available in Ireland. It’s certainly available in Jordan, in Egypt, in Denmark. But my own channel with my own work on it, is not available in my own country! So desperate they are to silence me, and limit my reach. And that all began with another tweet on Twitter.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Like you and I, mean, we are good at what we do, but our reaches is measurable. It’s not like were like some massive reach. We don’t have that, but I think perhaps, Alison, what they’re afraid of with you, and not so much me. They honestly don’t go after me too much, I don’t know why anymore. I’m starting to feel bad. It’s like maybe I’m doing something wrong. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p>They just don’t bother me anymore. Like why? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I don’t know if you heard last week, by the way, Twitter was investigating a lot of my tweets. That were raised about some of my anti-jewish rhetoric. And they came back and said we found nothing wrong people. Keep going.</p>
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<p>What’s wrong with you guys? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[50:21]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> I mean, that is what they do all day is complain! They have the money to pay teams of dedicated flaggers! I’m sure the people who are clicking “<em>Report</em>” don’t even read, or watch the videos being flagged. They will be in groups, in messaging groups, etc., and there will be an order given “<em>Report this video. Here is the link.</em>” and they will just open the link and click “<em>Report</em>” without even bothering to watch the content. Richie Allen had his entire YouTube channel closed down! Now, I can consider myself lucky, my channel at least still exists!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Yeah. And YouTube quite frankly, it’s not just regarding, I understand these jewish issues, they’re doing a lot of just nondescript, from UFOs, to body language. People done body language analysis of leading elites. They’re going out there and they’re hammering, going after everybody that doesn’t fit a very narrow definition. And you have to wonder, at some time, where’s the push-back going to come? Even from investors, you know, it’s got to be hurting the shares, in the stocks, by cutting views, cutting their advertising, etc., In other words there is more going on here and I think we’re just going to, obviously, let it play out. We have no choice, you know, we’re just going to see where it goes. But I think people really need to push back, we keep pushing for that.</p>
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<p>Just want to cover a few more things, then we will go onto your trial here, coming up soon. But, you know, I look at some of the stuff that you used to tweet. And you used to tweet under your musical account, I believe, at one time, or yourself also.</p>
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<p>But you would just say things like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>It&#8217;s now widely accepted that most camp inmates died of typhus.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>That is such an innocuous statement. Yet, jews are putting this out there to be some massively evidence of denial and hatred! It’s like, what is wrong with the jewish community right now?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> The jews and the liberals, the liberals as well. I had notification earlier today — there’s a group, I sometimes attend, there’s a group in London called the “<em>Keep Talking Group</em>”. And it’s just a discussion group. They began with talking about 9/11, and it’s moved on to other subjects. But the main Anti-fa, a Labour party front, but also a Zionist front. And it’s called “<em>Hope Not Hate</em>”, and they’ve managed to cancel this group! And it’s full of senior citizens! And there’s no way that any of these people are going to be, going to be creating any trouble for anybody. All they want to do is have a venue where they can invite interested people to go and discuss issues. And they’ll have a speaker who will talk on various topics.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the excuse this time, is that they had Nick Kollerstrom, who once said that there was a swimming pool at Auschwitz. And I’ve also tweeted about that, and that too, even tweeting about soap and lampshades! Even tweeting about soap and lampshades, or singing about soap and lampshades, as the case of one of my songs which is subject to charges! That is considered to be anti-Semitic and a slander of the memory of the supposed six million.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> I hear you, but the point is, but so what?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, exactly!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> You have the right to be anti-semitic.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Jews have a right to be anti-White and they show it every day!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> They do!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> It’s like what is it about the jewish people, the insanity going on where they believe they are above any and all criticism, even when they’re rightly deserving of this criticism.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, yes. It’s a whole industry, isn’t it?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Now this all started back in 2015 with your famous quenelle salute.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well, that was the first time my name hit the press. Prior to that, I’d lost at last one contract in Germany. I had been working for a cruise company. But yes, that’s when my name hit the headlines, with my quenelle salute, at the Edinburgh Festival. When my accusers didn’t want my show to go ahead, but the Edinburgh Fringe at that point said:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh, we are the Edinburgh Fringe and she has the right to her freedom of expression. Therefore she can continue.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The organizers had very kindly informed me of these letters trying to get my show banned. That was my response, I just tweeted a photograph of myself on Twitter with a nice quenelle.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Now at the end of the day, come on! This is a silly picture and they make this out to be like the second coming of Joseph Stalin, or something! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Alison laughs]</strong></span> what do they mean by it. It’s like a silly little pose, at the end of the day!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> I mean, silly little pose at the end of the day! It’s just a pose! And they make it be this massive symbolic thing that’s worthy of going after and destroying people! They have to just, really, again! What is wrong with the jewish community, right now?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> One of the top jews in France, Ala Yakubawitz, is his name, he said that the quenelle was symbolic of the sodomization of the victims of the Shoah!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Well, that’s a heck of a vivid imagination there! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Alison laughing like hell]</strong></span></p>
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<p>I would have to dig deep to come up with that imagery and put that on the air.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> And then you have the double standards, you know, you have the French, this is in the case of the French political activist Alan Savale, is his name, going to the Berlin “<em>Holocaust</em>” memorial, you know, this horrible and ugly, slabs of concrete stones.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> An abomination!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes. And he made a quenelle salute in there. And he’s been fined so far about 30,000 euros for defaming the memory of the victims of the Shoah. But you get Israelis going there, so-called BDS Israelis going there, and doing even more obscene things. Which I won’t go into here. But not being subjected to any consequences, at all! So there’s this double standards, as well, in the way that certain figures are attacked, whereas others seem to be able to cause gross offense with impunity!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Again, “<em>gross offense</em>” is so innocuous, it doesn’t mean anything. At the end of the day, unless it’s “<em>jewish logic</em>” from logic, it doesn’t mean anything. I don’t know how we are allowing as a people, to allow this stupidity to prosper within our country! What does this even mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[57:29]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> I think that the shoah and the memory of the shoah that’s pumped, continually pumped, at us by the media, and these memorial days, and the ever increasing “<em>Holocaust</em>” memorial sites around the world. Museums. There’s a new one going to be built in London, right next to our Houses of Parliament! </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, that’s the way they can start indoctrinated children at an early age with school trips, etc., When I was at school we didn’t go and visit Auschwitz. But I think it’s a pretty much par for the course now. You know, you get to these cheap flights. Day flights in and out of Poland and the children are taken around Auschwitz! And the “<em>Holocaust</em>” education begins in primary school now! It’s not just high school! It begins at an early age!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> They have that in America too.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yeah, they use this myth, they use this myth, which is the foundation myth of the world we are living in and today, to create these liberal, good, democratic citizens.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh racism! We can’t be having any racism</em>”, “<em>we know what leads to racism! It begins with name calling, and leads straight to the gas chambers at Auschwitz!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So you can’t be racist! And you’ve got to remember the victims of the shoah. So it’s not only used to fortify the jewish angle of things, that jews are above criticism., but it’s also used to reinforce globalism and the globalist agenda of creating the world of endless tyranny and slavery for us all.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Have you been in touch with anybody from the Monika Schaefer camp?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Do, you know, what’s going on with case?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well, I think she’s in good spirits.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Is she still in jail?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, she’s still in jail. She’s still awaiting trial now. I think that they can only keep her for six months.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Only?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> If there’s no reason to bring her to trial, … Yes, only! If there’s no reason to bring her to trial at that point, then I think that they are obliged to release her. I mean, she’s kept up, she’s held on remand as a flight risk, because she’s not a German citizen.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Obviously she’s of German origin, and she speaks the language. Imagine if you were in a German prison and you didn’t speak the language! And it must be the case with Middle Easterners, etc., But for an educated Western woman, who’s absolutely delightful and charming. But she’s in good spirits.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’ve heard that she’s in a cell with three other German, well three other ladies. Three other women, not sure of their nationality, could be anything</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[one was White and the other two, Nigerians]</strong></span>. <span style="color: #0000ff;">And she’s keeping fit. She can paint, and draw. She certainly in good spirits, and she’s certainly not having her spirit broken by this. And I think Alfred, her brother, is right in saying that this will further increase public awareness and be in our favor. They always go too far. And this isn’t just one more example of how they do that. Shooting themselves in their own foot. For a video where she apologizes to her own mother! There’s absolutely nothing hateful about this! Nothing!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[61:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Just apologizing to your mother!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> It’s like, I’ll be honest it’s like, I’ve given up trying to figure out what motivates those people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well, even the lawyers admit, you know, the truth is no defense! They know but the system is just so corrupt! So utterly corrupt! That even the top judges in Germany have said this, with the Horst Mahler case, in particular, this law is an ass!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23377" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="826" height="1281" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER.jpg 826w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER-600x931.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER-660x1024.jpg 660w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER-768x1191.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 826px) 100vw, 826px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Yes, it’s an embarrassment to the German people, which are a proud people. They’re allowing themselves to be made fools of, quite frankly. In the public eyes, global eyes here, because how can you guys be that stupid? You’re proud people! And here we look at you prosecuting things in a way that truly makes you look like a laughingstock and a blight upon Western civilization! And that’s a sad situation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[61:56]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes. I would like to see some big public outcry over this. There’s also this young Palestinian teenager who slapped a soldier, Ahed Tamine, who is now in prison in an Israeli jail.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> I think they have taken out fifteen of her family members last week.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> This girl she slapped a soldier in an illegally military occupied zone, and they banged her up! And, of course, there’s no question that’s unjustifiable!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> You know, they shot her cousin in the head. Did you know, that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yeah, yes!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> But then, you know, what the story was? “<em>Oh, he fell off his bike!</em>”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like you guys have become a level of evil I just can’t get my mind around.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> They are evil, they are truly evil!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, there’s a Muslim human rights organization, Islamic, you know, the name’s “<em>Inmines</em>”. And they organized, it was a great “<em>guerilla projection</em>” they called it. A great initiative. They projected, they used a projector and they beamed onto the facade of the Houses of Parliament in London, great photographs “<em>Free Ahmed Tamimi</em>” and they did this group guerilla presentation. Of course, the press completely ignored it. But there were lots of people there, and they took photos. And I think we should do something similar.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Do you find that the Palestinian advocate segment of the culture is actually much more affective than we are ourselves, in combating the issue relative to Israel and human rights?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well I think this particular initiative impressed me! I thought yes, you know, why aren’t we doing the same for our own political prisoners? A young man, twenty-two, twenty-three years old, who said something unwise on social media, and has been locked up for two, or three years of their lives! Of their young lives, in the prime of their youth!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Why aren’t we coming together and organizing for these political prisoners? Yes! I think the Palestinian movement does do good work, but they need to be more vocal. I mean, I and others, and Gilad Atzmon, we think that, you know, a lot of the pro-Palestinian organizations have been taken over by jews! And these people who claim to be anti-Zionists, are, in fact, still Zionists! And still “<em>Oh yes, Israel, blah, blah, blah, and the Holocaust</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So yes, I think there is a possibility for us to join together and talk about racial issues, talk about national nationalist issues. But for the moment I think we have to concentrate on our own people and our Western governments. And opposing this tyranny.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[64:58]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> When I first met <strong>Graham Hart</strong>, he was really pro-Palestinian — he’s listens to this, so Graham don’t shoot me — but he was very pro Palestinian when I first met. I told him exactly what you said there. No, I think we need to spend more time on our own issues, and what is Palestine is Palestine. We have enough of our own issues to worry about. To just always “<em>Palestine</em>”!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> We are all Palestinians now! We are all in “<em>occupied territories</em>” here in the West! Britain is occupied! Germany is occupied! France is occupied!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> The States they still have the First Amendment, but they’re going after that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Alison, what have you learned, really? , because you’re kind of late to this, but you’re also obviously having a court case brought against you, makes you become very focused, very fast. But what have you learned over the last few years now? From the time when you were just doing it, like most of us, doing our thing out there, not really paying attention. To now being in the spotlight and having to confront this power that a lot of people want to try to deny even exists. What have you learned about this? This Israeli infiltration of our nations and the type of tactics they use. What have you learned?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[66:23]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Are you there? What a great question, and she disappeared off the radar screen.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Alt-Right everybody, welcome back. It’s a Fetch Inside the Eye Live. Intelligent media for the politically aware. A lot of funny things happening with Skype. Not sure exactly what’s happened to Alison. Are you still on the air?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, yes. Did we get cut you off?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Yeah. Here’s what’s happened, your contact has disconnected from my network, which means you would have to re-approve my contact request for you to actually communicate through IM, but I’m glad to hear you’re still on the air, so that’s a great thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Come on man, Skype, who know people I’m not a conspiracy guy about this stuff, you know, computers do wacky things. Before we went in the break I was asking a quick question. You were never into the nationalist side of things, you are an entertainer, you were doing your gigs, you’re on your cruises, pretty much minding your own business. Is that kind of a fair statement?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> And then all the sudden you find yourself being targeted for unknown reasons, obvious you have to look into why. You start to understand why. But now that you have a court case being brought against you, which is a very serious issue in any situation. What have you learned about this power structure that target citizens in our nations, that’s really a foreign power? What have you learned that you might share with some of the audience, about this power structure?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well, they have the means, immeasurable fundamental ng to be able to carry out what they do. Do what they do.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Before I got cut off, I was realizing that I was cut off, I was saying that, … I’ve learned that everything I learned growing up was a child, … my grandfather was a soldier in the British Army and he was killed aged 23 in 1940. And I think he was, you know, like many of the others, thinking that they were going to war — propagandized by the powers that be — into fighting for the glory of this country!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that if he knew, if he’d survived and became aware of the fact that, no, he was, in fact, fighting for the establishment of the <strong>Cudenhove Kalergi Plan</strong>, and the foundation of the Greater Israel, then I think he would have had remorse about going in there and fighting these brothers wars! I always learned:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, your grandfather sacrifice was to ensure that we can enjoy the liberties of Western civilization!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it’s just not true! Western civilization, yes it’s supposed to be founded on open debate, honesty, honour, duty, these pillars of Western civilization. But it’s just not true! And it was learning about the plight of people like Horst Mahler, Ursula Haverbeck, Sylvia Stolz, now Monika Schaefer, of course, Professor Faurisson in France. That these people are being silenced via legal means! And it’s not just the intimidation. Many of them have also suffered. The professor’s been beaten up ten times by people who are connected with the militant jewish organizations, Defense League type organizations. But they’re also using the law. They are also able to buy our corrupt, vain, greedy politicians to the extent where these politicians basically betray their own country and their own people!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[70:14]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> When you hear a lot of the arguments brought against you, you know, and they’re the same thing we’ve all received over time. But they talk about how this idea of diversity, diversity, diversity! And being tolerant of others. But I think what we’re now learning and people are grasping, is that these people aren’t tolerant to even one ounce of a pound, or a quarter of an inch! These guys have zero tolerance for anybody but their own views, don’t they?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes! And that’s the double standards Dennis! I was looking around the other day. I thought okay, well, you know, there are saying that my songs, for the listeners, I’m on trial for three songs that I uploaded to the internet. My own compositions. And two of these songs I take jewish melodies, which are parodies and, of course, I change the words, I wouldn’t sing in Hebrew, no thank you!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I looked on the internet for parodies of Christmas carols. Not your Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer, I’m talking about religious Christian, Christmas carol music. And I found an American acapella act going by the name of “<em>Paint</em>” and it’s progressive Christmas carols. And it’s the usual stuff, you know, some of it might be okay. I didn’t find it particularly funny, but at one point, they imply, quite specifically, that Jesus was gay! Now, I find that quite offensive, to be honest.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> I’m not even, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> If a legal precedent is set with my case, then will it be possible for devout Christians to also cite this section one twenty-seven of the Communications Act for causing gross offense for things like this?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> I think the British people should <em>en masse</em> go after every single jewish person for this! You know, you make it a nightmare for the jewish people, because that’s what they’re looking to do. So okay, once they put it in motion, use it against them, because that’s the fastest way they will appeal it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes! You know, using jewish tunes, my goodness! What a crime! We have a stabbing every day in London, every day somebody is killed via stabbing!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the drug dealing! And the theft! And not to mention all the terror plots, this, that and the other. Goodness me, going after a singer, really what, …</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">My grandfather, to think that he was fighting for that? So that singers could be brought to trial for their parodies of jewish tunes! Did he think that he was fighting so that gay couples can adopt children? That’s the Jonathan Bowden quote, by the way, that is not come from me. But I really don’t think that the people who fought in the Second World War if they could see what’s happening today see that they would be impressed at all! And they wouldn’t consider that they won!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[73:25]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> How long has your trial been going on, from the time they, it went from a private prosecution, which is absurd, to a public prosecution. How long have you been now dealing with this headache?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well I’ve been dealing with it since we last spoke! So that’s fifteen months, going on sixteen months!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> It’s that long, since you were here!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Eight, or nine court hearing for a summary, it’s a summary offense, under the communications Act for “<em>sending</em>”. There’s also this, you know, what did I “<em>send</em>”? I didn’t “<em>send</em>” my music to these individuals who are complaining! I simply posted a link uploaded to YouTube. They went and sought out these links themselves! There’s even one of the songs that’s been sand-boxed on YouTube.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They were all played in court last month, and the first day of my trial, which was very bizarre. And the sand-boxing “<em>Are you sure you want to continue to watch this video</em>” well, they know it’s me, you know. Why are they clicking on this song? Clearly it’s, because they want me locked up! They want me clamped in irons, Dennis! And made an example of!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Did you have a lot of chuckles when they played it in the courtroom?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes! Yes, it was quite surreal for me to be sitting there in the dock.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Now, just to set the record straight. You did not sing your song in the dock?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> No! No I did not!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> So the Daily Mail and all these mainstream publications are just lying through their teeth?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> They lie! They lied in unison! It was quite an experience! These songs are my babies, Dennis, you know, they have, they are part of me. They come from me! So to see my performances that I’ve not been allowed to share, or promote over the past eighteen months. I’ve been gagged on bail. I can’t share them.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">To see these songs being played in court, especially the two videos from the London Forum, which was in front of a live audience, who were all cheering and laughing and clapping at the end. It was quite surreal! Quite something! Yes, the public gallery, they applauded after the first song was played. But the judge told them off! That they shouldn’t be doing that again.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> A lot of people may think that this is really personnel wise, a really big thing, right? But the truth of the matter is, this is just a couple of good, to me, okay? I can’t speak for you, but for me as an outside observer, a couple jewish thugs, basically. Trollish thugs, who have been empowered with the money to go after somebody. They decided you were one they were going to go after. And that’s it! There’s no other real issue here, is there? It’s just two of these thugs making a complaint! And again, that is not you speaking, that’s me as an outside observer looking at what’s going on. You’ve got the presiding district Judge, John Zane, is he still there?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, yes, yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> No jury. Karen Robinson, she’s your prosecuting counsel. Adrian Davies is with you, correct?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Then you’ve get Giddeon Falter the chairman of the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism and Stephen Silverman, who’s the director of quote, unquote, “<em>Investigations and Enforcement</em>”! What a stupid thing that sounds like! And, well, who is he to enforce anything?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Exactly!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> You know, I mean, who’s he to be enforcing anything? This is almost like, dude! You know, in America maybe, you know, I don’t want to say, but my goodness! You come at people like that in America, they may not be tolerant of you!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[77:11]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well, one of my theories, you know, music is a powerful tool, a powerful language. And I think, someone said to me:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Your songs are doing more than any textbook that’s ever been written on the subject.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because it is a heavy subject, the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. And yes, it might well offend certain sensibilities, but that’s subjective. It’s on their part. Lots of things offend me! I don’t have friends high up in the House of Commons, or in the police to go and complain constantly and whine about these things. And life’s too short, you know!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Offence is nothing! It’s subjective. I’m offended that this guy actually believes that he should be in charge of “<em>investigations and enforcement</em>” against a private individual! I’m offended by that! Should he be in trial? Absolutely then! , because he’s going after the rights of the British people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> That’s highly offensive! And people should treat him in this way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well, I think they have lost credibility, not only among the public at large, and among the politicians, and the police, etc., But among the jewish community. That’s how it seems to me.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> And it should be!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> The clever jews know that, you know, that they’ve, … my lawyer said under cross-examination of these two witnesses, that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“If you’d have left her alone she’d have been with her handful of followers, doing her thing. Nobody would have heard more. But you have created this publicity around her by bringing this prosecution! You made her into a minor celebrity!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s true. Now, I think they’re trying to retract. They complained to police about “<em>Survivors</em>”</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[song]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">the day that I uploaded it to the Internet! They reported me to police!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Isn’t them telling the police, they’re obsessing over you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> I think so. But they applied so much pressure. The poor Police and Crime Commissioner, he had three letters a week from the Silverman, trying to get me locked up, which they didn’t manage. They did eventually manage to get me locked up for two days last October, for this other song that I’m now charged with it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t know, perhaps they were also afraid of my influence, because I’m a fluent French speaker and they and, of course, the revisionism movement pretty much began in France with the work of Professor Faurrison. They knew that I was in contact with him. They considered him to me to be somebody specifically dangerous for their “<em>foundation myth</em>” of the shoah. Which is, you know, the religion of today, that one is not allowed to commit sacrilege, or heresy against these ridiculous lies. And it’s not as if my songs attack that particularly, they attack the lies of those survivors who have been debunked as such!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> This is very true.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> But it’s fine for others, for liberals, to go out there and denigrate our Christian heritage, Christmas carols, our sacred music, and have millions of views on YouTube. Not get sand-boxed, be able to monetize their work. Yet we are not allowed to do that. So yes, they can become quite crucify us, but they can try their best to crucify us socially and professionally speaking!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Well, of course, they have done that, but at the same time, I mean, this is going to happen. If not you, somebody else, unfortunately.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> So it’s just a matter of people taking a stand, which to your credit you have taken this stand. I can’t stand when people apologize!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Oh no! Oh no, I won’t be making any groveling apology! And I don’t really need to. I don’t have any assets, such as to speak of but they will go to any lengths. They will continue, whatever happens on Wednesday.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Last time we had thirty some odd, according to a caller from Scotland, who came down to support you. We’d like it more. I know Graham Hart has made a big robust statement out there. I told him that’s a little bit much, but we’d still like to get a lot of people. How do people get to this, … well first of all, let’s go back to the first day. The first trial was what? The prosecution presenting it’s case about a month, or so ago?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> What was interesting about that, or can you talk about that? What was interesting about the way the case was presented by them?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[82:08]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> There’s been a couple of interesting articles one was written by Dr Kollestrom again, Nick Kollestrom, which was published on the Occidental Observer and on the Unz Review. And that the prosecution doesn’t really have any evidence to prove one, that I broke any laws, because there’s still this “<em>sending</em>” issue. The “<em>sending</em>”, well is posting a link to the Internet, can that be construed as “<em>sending</em>” under this particular law? And secondly, neither of the prosecution witnesses really had any evidence to prove that I offended anybody, except them!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They talked about Irene Zisblatt, for example, and the chief witness Gideon Faulter, admitting that he had not even read this woman’s book! <strong>[The Fifth Diamond]</strong> So he’s trying to defend somebody, but he’s not even bothered to read her book!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1809-Zisblatt-The-Fifth-Diamond.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22490" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1809-Zisblatt-The-Fifth-Diamond.jpg" alt="" width="731" height="473" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1809-Zisblatt-The-Fifth-Diamond.jpg 731w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1809-Zisblatt-The-Fifth-Diamond-600x388.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 731px) 100vw, 731px" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It was quite amazing I have to say. Just sit there and listen to, they were reading from a script.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> At the end of the day, they are trolls and clowns! Let’s be honest. You’re not very, … they went after me, by the way, after you came on my show.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> They did! They went after me, and I made some complaints to my circles and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Hey, you need to, you better back off dude! Because, you know, it’s not just you running this world.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so they disappeared. They didn’t challenge it to beyond about thirty hours.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes. Well they want a law here. They know they’re never going to have a chance to have a similar rule in Jordan. But they will, that’s what they want here in the UK, you see. They’re not bothered about somebody singing quote “<em>anti-Semitic</em>” unquote songs anywhere else. They want to set a precedent here, in the UK. That is their, … and yeah the trolling, this guy.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> They are trolling, they are trolling right?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> That was the most interesting thing as well, the most significant thing I think, of my trial in January, was this Nemo guy, “<em>Sekara72</em>” who was the one who had me banned from Twitter. But later on it was found out that it wasn’t he who had me banned, it was the Community Security Trust, which is the main jewish NGO in the UK. They admit on their own website, they admitted on Twitter that they worked to have me removed from Twitter! So it’s not as if I’ve broken any Twitter rules. This is the Community Security Trust.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> That’s an important sounding name.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes, they’re a long running body that supposed to, …</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Basically, the main jewish NGO there, has admitted to targetting British citizens?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yeah! Yeah! Not me, I’m not the only one in this case.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> They are targetting British citizens. That’s it.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Targetting! Admitted to targetting British citizens.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes! Yes! Hasbara trolls who get suspended, the same organization will then work to have these hasbara trolls unsuspended from Twitter. <strong>[laughing]</strong> It really is that absurd! And I think that they are panicking. To some to some extent, they are panicking. They know that we are reaching, what’s the term, the point of no return, when our ideas will simply gain strength, while it.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Come on! We are everywhere now. The dam has already broken! There’s leaks so far out there now, it’s not even it’s, … I can’t categorize it, quite frankly. If I go into Twitter now, I’m still there thankfully. What happened to Facebook? Were you blocked on Facebook also again?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes! Yes, yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Well what did you do there?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> For, oh, some fake news post that I’d shared. So yes, that was the day after my trial, so I was unable to share all the wonderful news coverage about me, supposedly singing in the dock.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> What were some of the great, well, what are some of the positives you’ve taken so far, out of what’s happened?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Can I just come back to that the significant thing of the trial.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Sure, absolutely.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[86:32]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> It ties in. The guy who did get me banned from Twitter, we discovered with the help of a long working, dedicated colleague, that this man is, in fact, a journalist, a freelance writer and film critic, going by the name of Steven Applebaum. And he writes for the jewish Chronicle. He wrote for the jewish Chronicle, an article about my quenelle salute in 2015. And he was the one, along with this Silverman character, who was trolling me, to the point of 500 tweets to me over the space of a few months. He was the one, he was the one, that was trolling me the most.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And one of these songs is about him! At that point his name was “<em>Nemo</em>” on Twitter. And I wrote one of the songs called, “<em>Nemo’s Anti-semitic Universe</em>”. So that will be interesting to hear the cross-examination of me, because that’s what’s going on next Wednesday. Of course, I’m the one that will be in the witness-box, presumably. Anything could happen, and it usually does.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Are you going to the stand in your own defense?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes. Yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> It’s great! For people who want to come out and support you. What should they do?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well, if they want to come to London, the court is the Westminster Magistrates. Central London Magistrates Court on Marylebone road. And the nearest train station is Marylebone. And there’s a tube there as well. And there’s another one at Edgeware Road, tube station. Good to be there at nine thirty. There’s a little security check before you go in. There will be quite a number of supporters who will be there outside court, waiting already, I presume, I suppose. There may be some media there, so for people who don’t want to be recognized, wear a hat and a pair of sunglasses! I’m not sure what the weather’s going to be like, but thankfully the snow’s melted.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And if people can’t come along, to just have a quick look at my blog. Leave a message there, leave a comment under one of my articles. That is Alison Chabloz dot wordpress dot com. And there’s also links where you can find my Pay Pal, Bit Coin, etcetera., for people who would like to leave a small donation to help me, get by!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because, you know, that’s the thing. It’s been going on for so long! Will it be all over on Wednesday? I have doubts! Now will the judge reserve his decision and that will mean another month, or six weeks, still on bail. I’m still hoping.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> How it is this judge? Is he fair, or do you to think he’s really, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well I think so. When the second song was played, the “<em>Anti-Semitic Universe</em>” song. “<em>Nemo’s Anti-semitic Universe</em>”, the last verse, there’s a, it’s very pro-Palestinian. It’s:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Zionists will flee, everybody will agree, from the river to the sea. Palestine will be Free! Free Palestine!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And if that isn’t fair comment, I don’t know what it is. But, of course, the Crown witnesses were claiming that was an incitement to genocide all jews! So I think the judge, you know, I can’t really say more than more than that, but he seems to want to be a fair man</span>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[90:05]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">When I was arrested and in court in the beginning of October, I think he was quite upset about that, as well. And the way that I was treated, like a common criminal for having, for singing songs. Yeah, it’s caused quite a lot of uproar. And no, the press has said nothing about this Applebaum character, who was trolling me relentlessly for two years, pretty much. They said nothing about this. It was all “<em>Chabloz was singing in the dock!</em>” There’s no surprise there. There’s no surprise that the press would take this angle, but it will be interesting to see what will happen on Wednesday. Will there be an outcome? And if not, you know, how the press going to spin things this time.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> How many seats are available inside the court?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Forty seats perhaps.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> So that we should know that everybody, and then get a crowd outside to take pictures of the media.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Really! Take pictures of the media. I recommend it, because they’re the ones promoting this. To make them feel some heat.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Yes. Get down there! Get down there and show them! Show the authorities! It was a private prosecution! And then that the Crown took over, because that was a request from my team, that the Crown take over the charges. They didn’t take over that original charge. They brought new charges. Similar but different, because, …</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> Why would a country being involving themselves in the stupidity?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Well I think it’s lobbying isn’t it? And the donations to political parties in this case, Theresa May, just a few weeks, or a couple of weeks before I was in court the first time, that was at the end of 2016, December 2016. The government “<em>adopted</em>”. Adopted — why they didn’t legislate — they adopted this international definition of “<em>anti-semitism</em>”. This awful definition which says, oh! :</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We can’t have ‘Holocaust’ denial on any media platform.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, we are silenced, we are corralled, but with the Internet they are limited to the extent that, … and who believes the mainstream media? Who believes what they say? And who believes what government says?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> I tell you what, governments are putting themselves in the position what they look really childish! Seriously! This is the most childish display and abuse of power that I’ve seen in a long time. You’re a singer at the end of the day, Alison! You’re nothing! I don’t see you’re nothing, but in the realm of criminality, this is about as nothing as it gets! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Alison laughs]</strong></span> And what are you doing bringing charges like this for?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> And this is the Conservative Party under Theresa May, and yes, eighty percent of the conservative members of parliament are “<em>friends of Israel</em>”. But it’s the same with the Labor Party! So even if May gets chucked out, it will still be the same with under the Labor party! We really need complete change.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> We’re out of time. Sorry to part with you Alison.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Alison:</strong> Thanks very much Dennis.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Fetch:</strong> All right everybody, we will get that out and get your web sites out. It’s Alison Chabloz everybody! Again get out to the Westminster courthouse on Wednesday the 7th <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[of March]</strong></span>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[94:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p>All right everybody, welcome back. It’s the Fetch, Inside the Eye Live. Intelligent media for the politically aware. Today’s March the 3rd, 2018. I want to thank Alison Chabloz for making an hour available to us. You know, she’s got the court case again coming up. She’ll be on the witness stand. Should be a very interesting time. So guys, everybody get out there that’s listening in the UK! Again this isn’t just about Alison. This is really about the thug, and again, this is my observation, because I know this will get back to certain people, so we’re going to phrase it in a very clear way. This is about, from clear observable observation, from a basic human perception, a couple of thugs, who wear a yarmulke, decided to go after and target somebody that, for whatever reason they don’t like. And if this isn’t tantamount to an exceedingly, oh, let’s call it an ostentatious display, how’s that for flowery words for you? But an exceedingly ostentatious display of bullying by people within the jewish community! I really don’t know what is. I mean, that’s exactly what was happening here.</p>
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<p>Can you imagine, … I can feel for Alison, because I was trolled by some of the meanest, nastiest trolls that ever graced this planet! For years and years! So I can relate to some moron in the jewish community trolling me for five, six, just on, and on, and on, and on. I can get it! And you have to understand that when, and we don’t advocate trolling here. We think it’s a disgusting display of human interaction here. So we don’t really, we don’t condone it, by any stretch. You make your points, you get out! Make your points, get out! Not this constant droning of idiocy that is this troll world. Look, make your points, get out! Make your points, get out! But when you’re subjected to all this massive trolling, why is it that you can troll a politician that is jewish and you find yourself getting hauled into court for harassment!</p>
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<p>But jews believe it’s more than morally acceptable to troll for a year, or more, because they think that you’re, quote, unquote, a “<em>denier</em>”. What a bunch of idiots, are we dealing with here? And we need to start calling it that guys! Look! There’s a time to grow up out there, when it comes to dealing with these types of clowns!</p>
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<p>You know, if you look at some of the comments coming from the jewish community and why you should get out there. One of the things they said is something like, this comes on a Facebook post, and it is, let’s see if I can find it quick enough for you. You think I would be able to. I just had it. The name is jewish, Tim De Rosen. He writes in a post he said, obviously Mr De Rosen has to be obsessed here, to even bother, quite frankly, to go on to somebody Facebook page and comment. What an obsessed little jackass clown this guy is! That’s the facts guys! But his name is Tim De Rosen, and he says:</p>
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<h3>“There is no point in prosecuting this woman. She is clearly insane.”</h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>Well, you know, what Mr Rosen, you’re an insane freak moron, quite frankly! And for you jews out there, to consistently try to consolidate, or define the reality for us, we’re sick of you clowns! I’m serious! The last thing I want to see is some a hate filled bigot like Tim De Rosen. Yeah that’s using their language everybody! Telling me what is, is not, acceptable out there! Look there’s nothing acceptable in the jewish community!</p>
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<p>They’re out there celebrating right now, “<em>Purim</em>”! The mass slaughter of some 85,000 Persians, for no other reason than that jews were, people hated the jews! Whatever that’s supposed to mean. Don’t give us this idea what’s insane, dude! You’re sitting there celebrating Purim! You’re out there celebrating the mass slaughter of tens of thousands of people! And you’re going to tell us you’re sane! Are you kidding! Are you fricken out of your mind dude! And it’s that way across the entire jewish spectrum. These guys continue to want to just pop off with a lot of chutzpah, with a lot, a lot, a lot of gaslighting against us! And we’re supposed to actually take these people seriously?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[98:49]</strong></span></p>
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<p>No! You need to learn to push back guys! Put them back into some type of defensive mode! Stop being on the defensive here! Make them go into the defensive mode. Make them support why they are such flaming lunatics within our midst! And how they continue to insult and assault us with their stupidity, time, and time, again! They’re not smart people, folks! These are idiots! At the bottom end of the spectrum of the human scale, these are idiots! They’re not intellectual people by any stretch! Come on, the Committee Against Anti-Semitism, what a bunch of morons! Seriously! You come after me. You want to go complain to my people, you know, what? Try to come into certain areas, maybe we arrest these guys. These guys are clowns. They’re disgusting vile elements of human existence here. They want to sit there and try to oppress the rest of us, because what? They’re jews? Well, go back to Israel dude! Seriously! That’s why we all died. That is why our relatives died for you, so you can have your fricken place called Israel. Go! Go! Get out!</p>
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<p>That’s my observation, as an outside observer. And it’s not people like Alison Chabloz that are promoting hatred! The people that are promoting hatred are this Mr Silverman, who wants to go after me for what? Dude you want to go after me, and you don’t think you’re not the one promoting hatred? Believe me dude, you want to go after us professionally, we have every right to find you loathsome and to go after you, and to hate you, and to do whatever we feel like doing on a rhetorical scale towards you! Because, you know, what? Who are you to go after us professionally all the time? No, we need to go after these guys professionally. We need to mock them! We need to scoff them! We need to make them feel like outcasts, in our own lands, so that they get the heck out!</p>
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<p>And it’s a mass consciousness here. It’s not like just one person it’s cumulative. It’s death by a thousand cuts! Don’t keep allowing these people to always be on the offensive. This trial has got to be one of the dumbest childish things I’ve ever seen! Really! It is absolutely childish to watch these people operate out there! They actually think that, because they’re jews, they can just go ahead and target anybody they want for the dumbest of things! How do you wear “<em>stupid</em>” on your shoulder? You put a star David on your forehead! Is that what jews are trying to tell us here?</p>
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<p>Mr Silverman, if you are listening, than you just might be, because I know you’re very obsessed right now with what’s going on. Dude! Where is that Star of David? Where is that symbol of hatred? Is it on your butt, or is on your forehead? Where is it dude?</p>
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<p>See, we don’t hate anybody until you start to make a jackass out of yourself and then expect us to tolerate you! That’s the problem with the jewish community right now. They go out of their way to make complete moronic jackasses of themselves, and then they expect us to just stand by and say, :</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3>“Oh you jews! You’ve just got so much chutzpah!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<h3></h3>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Oh! Let me worship your little finger nails, because they’re worth more than a thousand of us!”</h3>
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<p>No, we get it everybody! We are really starting, to really understand this idea of jewish hatred for Western civilization.</p>
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<p>You know, there’s lots of comments over the years about Alison. And it’s not just Alison. It’s about a lot of us out there, who discuss a lot of these particular issues. And they always throw out this idea that you hate jews! And I’m like okay, well what’s wrong with that? Because what you’re telling me is you just made a judgment against me, not knowing me. You&#8217;re a fricken clown! Okay, I hate jews, so what! Are you telling me you like me? Do you love me? Are you going to worship me tomorrow? Otherwise you hate me too! So what’s the problem with you? Are you trying to tell me that your form of hate is different from my form of hate?</p>
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<p>Look! Finish with these rhetorical games that we see continually see being played out there. How they use these words, weaponized words, to put people on the defensive! Look, being antagonistic towards other people is natural! Whether you like to believe it, or not. Trust me! It’s natural! I’ll give you an example over here in the Middle East. We have something on his cliques of Somalians out there. You cannot deal with them. You cannot rationalize with them. You cannot even, it’s hard to even socialize with them.</p>
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<p>But, you know, there’s no reason for me to have to tolerate it. There’s no reason for me to kiss up and, “<em>You guys are awesome!</em>” And, you know, what? They’re often scheming against you, behind your back. This is normal behavior folks, within the human scale. Not everybody is enlightened. Not everybody has an open mind that allows them to work trans-culturally. This is normal. But when you meet particular ethnic groups out there, who do go out of their way to target other ethnic groups. Then the targeted ethnic group has every right, duty, and obligation see to go and defend themselves! That’s called human nature. That is what builds nations. That is what keeps different countries always at each other’s throats, because their views are such that they are never going to be able to work together!</p>
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<p>And until they can work through these issues, that’s just the way human nature works. It’s not for enemies within your midst to define for you what is the moral battle ground upon which you will wage your wars! Look if you’re going to wage a war against a quote, unquote, a “<em>semitic</em>” mindset, understand it’s total war, one hundred percent of the time!</p>
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<p>It is total war, one hundred percent of the time!</p>
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<p>That means that they have no morals! They have no values! Have no ethics! It is whatever they can do to win the war! There’s no idea of Western chivalry out there! Not the Westerners have been all that chivalrous over their history outside their world. But there is this level still within our mindset of chivalry. It doesn’t exist when you’re dealing with these jewish constructions!</p>
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<p>Look! They’re going after a singer for Christ’s sake! A singer! Who sang a song about a bunch of discredited “<em>Holocaust</em>” writers, who are a bunch of idiots on the scale of human existence here!</p>
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<p>C’mon, Simon Wiesenthal, what a moron! Seriously! His story is pathetic! As are so many of these jewish quote, unquote “<em>survivor</em>” stories.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; [Henrik of Red Ice Radio interviews Canadian-German activist Alfred Schaefer on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust&#8220;. &#160; &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/02/08/red-ice-tv-thought-criminal-monika-schaefer-arrested-and-imprisoned-in-germany-part-2-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<strong>Henrik</strong> of <strong>Red Ice Radio</strong> interviews Canadian-German activist <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong> on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>&#8220;. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Part of the subversion of Whites has been achieved through the diabolical lie known as the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; that is used by organized jewry as a &#8220;<em>shield and sword</em>&#8221; to draw attention away from its massive crimes against humanity, such as the instigation of the World Wars, 9/11, etc., while also instilling guilt and shame in Whites for their very existence.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred is a tireless and impassioned &#8220;<em>man on a mission</em>&#8221; to alert all to the reality of our dire situation and the forces behind our looming racial and cultural destruction, if we fail to act! I would urge all readers to support Alfred in his work and to help him in exposing the Orwellian situation that his sister, Monika, finds herself in as a &#8220;<em>thought criminal</em>&#8220;, now locked up in a maximum security prison in Germany.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">In <strong>Part 2</strong> here (<a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/02/04/red-ice-tv-thought-criminal-monika-schaefer-arrested-and-imprisoned-in-germany-part-1-transcript/">Part 1 is here</a>), Henrik explains his thinking on how Red Ice should present such taboo topics as Revisionist material, and the role of organized jewry in our racial and cultural destruction, that Alfred discusses. Since Red Ice has a large and growing audience on YouTube, Henrik rightly concludes that despite wanting to get the truth out, they must avoid getting banned by YouTube by publishing certain material discussed here in the members section.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred then talks about the use of &#8220;<em>control words</em>&#8220;, such as &#8220;<em>extreme right wing</em>&#8220;, &#8220;<em>racist</em>&#8220;, &#8220;<em>anti-semitism</em>&#8220;, etc., by our enemies to frame the debate in their favour. Organized jewry through its media domination have been relentless lying to us for the purpose of effectively genociding the White race through mass invasion of non-Whites, miscegenation and other means to drive the Whites into minority status.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">He then talks about how the advert of digital technology has enable us to reclaim history and expose the lies that we have been feed. Despite the availability of the true history it is a traumatic process for most people to go through as they rid themselves of the lies that they have been brainwashed with all their lives. Alfred talks about how he overcame his fears to eventually come to conclude that Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest leaders that we have ever produced.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Henrik talks about how he has become &#8220;<em>skeptical</em>&#8221; about the so-called &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8220;, because of the many things that simply don&#8217;t add up, and as such is very interested to hear about what &#8220;<em>Holocaust deniers</em>&#8221; have to say. He goes on to say how the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; is always talked about in an emotional way by the main stream media, leading him to conclude there is something &#8220;<em>fishy</em>&#8221; with the story.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred goes on to explain how the people of the West have been, through psychological manipulation, reduced to the level of spiritual, emotional cripples, that have prevented them from resisting, so far, from being flooded with millions of the Third Word.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Henrik tells how that Red Ice has put everything on the line in talking about migration, the JQ, White genocide, etc., wherever the truth leads them. How jews like <strong>Barbara Spectre</strong>, <strong>Noel Ignatiev</strong>, <strong>Gregor Gysi</strong>, talk about the desirability of White population replacement.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred describes how technological development has been used by jews to further their plans, for example with their control of Hollywood, the media, etc. The World Wars and what is happening now is the final phase of the “<em>War of the jew</em>” to dominate the world. And how our empathy, our jew induced feelings of guilt, pathological altruism, and so forth, is being used against us.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Much more is discussed, with Alfred and Henrik ending by urging listeners to write letters of support to Monika.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">I would add that Monika’s imprisonment is a real expression of the war being waged against us and our freedom to exist. Her situation is symbolic of the repression that will only get far worst unless we stand up and fight back in any way we can, however small or large. So start sending cards and letters to Monika, and anything else towards helping her and our cause.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Write to Monika now, at:</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"> <a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://wir-sind-monika.com/2018/02/01/alfred-schaefer-red-ice-part-2/">https://wir-sind-monika.com/2018/02/01/alfred-schaefer-red-ice-part-2/</a></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align:center;"> Alfred Schaefer is a German producer whose videos are aimed at exposing the propagandistic nature of the mainstream media. His videos outline how the hostile elite that are in control of much of Western Civilization have managed to subjugate entire populations and their political leadership through psychological conditioning.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Alfred Schaefer joins Henrik for a discussion about the consequences of challenging the accepted view of the Holocaust. The program begins with Alfred describing what it was like to grow up in Canada with German ancestry amid an accusatory climate of Holocaust remembrance. He describes his sister Monika’s newly found skepticism of the prevailing historical view of the Second World War and her subsequent video productions. Alfred recounts how Monika was arrested in Munich because of her videos that challenged the prevailing mainstream consensus concerning the Holocaust while attending the trial of Sylvia Stolz, a lawyer on trial for so-called Holocaust denial. Henrik and Alfred discuss with incredulity how pursuing historical inquiry can lead to criminal charges and imprisonment.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Please support <strong>Red Ice</strong> by becoming a member. It&#8217;s only through paid membership that they can continue to do their work, and cover such controversial topics such as the Holohoax — <strong>KATANA</strong>]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">In the <strong>members’ hour</strong>, Henrik and Alfred talk about the fractured nature of facts surrounding the nature of the Holocaust itself and the need for further research. The conversation then addresses the migrant crisis and how it constitutes a threat to Western civilization and how it can be viewed as a destructive companion phenomenon to Holocaust guilt and other Leftist propaganda. The conversation turns to the free fall of the mainstream media, how people crave alternative media sources, and the importance of outlets like Red Ice. Henrik speaks to the risk involved with pursing the truth about the migrant crisis, its origins, and underlying motivators. The discussion then turns to the seeming contradictions of population replacement.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> All right ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us here in the second segment at <strong>Red Ice Members dot com</strong>. We’re talking with <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong>.</p>
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<p>And I just want to take a moment and kind of explain a few things, not only about the topic, but kind of about the way that we have to think about how we address these kinds of topics now, as well. The first thing is, of course, that we were mentioned, Red Ice TV was mentioned by name in the British Parliament. It was a couple of weeks ago now, by a lady who brought us up, we’re in the record of the UK parliament right now in reference to, I think there had a discussion about hate and violence and how people turn to terrorism and stuff like that. And we came up as a horrible right-wing example of a channel that should be censored! And this lady <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Yvette Cooper]</strong></span>, I forget her name, now even. She was literally calling, she was sitting there with a representative from Google and talking about us specifically how, you know:</p>
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<p>And not only since that point, but around that point, we realized that okay, what we have here with the YouTube channel, I think we just broke 170,000 subscribers recently. So it’s a good, you know, it’s a good platform. It’s a good way to get the message out. And just to be frank with everyone, I also feel at the same time that I know that certain topics are just a “<em><i>third rail</i></em>”! I know that they would lead to censorship. Part of me feels, I don’t want to hand their reasoning to them, or the way that they just can basically say, “<em><i>Okay, let’s censor it! </i></em>” Because they’re talking about these “<em><i>nonsense</i></em>” topics.</p>
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<p>We don’t have to, you know, we know that they’re not. We personally and I personally, as we heard tonight, we’re open to everything. We consider that our audience should have an open mind. And even if it’s a topic that you don’t agree with, if you’re a newcomer, if you don’t know what we’ve talked about in the past on the show. Whatever it might be, we hope that you’re in a position where you. Where you hear our guests out and you hear us out and give us the benefit of the doubt. And even if you think differently, you know, there’s no reason why you should hate all the other material that we do. You would just come to a point where we disagree. So that’s fine, but, what I’m getting at is, that I feel this urge, I want to talk about certain things, I especially want to talk about the things that you’re not supposed to talk about! Like this topic we’re addressing here with Alfred today.</p>
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<p>At the same time that’s why I feel reprehensible these days, to full on go on a path especially in the first hour, because that will go up on our YouTube channel. It will be available for free and that’s where kind of feel, I think we should have an approach where we basically save some of the more controversial material, shall we say, for the second segment., because that’s our platform, we control that. There we can discuss whatever we want to. And that’s also kind of partially why I don’t want to just go fully overboard in the first segment., because YouTube will censor us and if we can limit that ability, I think that’s a smart strategy.</p>
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<p>I think it’s better to reach out with, I don’t know twenty-five, or fifty percent of the material that we have, then not reaching anyone at all., because we’re going to be at censored. So that’s one of the reasons why I didn’t pick up on certain things that Alfred mentioned in the first segment when he talks about historical events and things like this. I kind of, I just feel, you know, let’s leave it a bit later and we will go into the details. And if people really want to get into the knowledge of this, they can check our archives. They can listen to the second hour and they’ll get kind of the full spectrum of the things that we discuss.</p>
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<p>And again, just briefly on this, there are some people, when it comes to this topic, that are more effectual than others. There are some that are better when it comes to the history and stuff like that. I have a very open mind about this topic and I frankly don’t know all the intricacies, and the ins and outs, of this historical event. There’s many many, you know, revisionists or, historical truth seekers that are far more pertinent on this topic than me.</p>
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<p>But I love listening to these guys, no matter how out of left field it may seem. I want to get to the truth and I’m willing to give the people a platform, that talk about this, that DARE talk about this! And that also ends up in trouble for talking about this. I think it’s a incredibly important and if we can offer, you know, something we here at Red Ice that is completely, &#8230; We’re not original I know that there’s other people talking about it, but I’m saying, you know, in the size that we have of the YouTube platform and stuff like that, if we can offer people, or be a vehicle to help to get some of that message out, I want to! I want to be there as a free speech kind of platform, that actually focuses on these kinds of things that you’re not supposed to talk about.</p>
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<p>There’s many parts to this, and it’s a very dynamic situation. So on one hand you have to be careful of how you cover it. You have to be smart, how you cover it. And you don’t have to be reckless. And I know that some people out there they want me to go full force and talk about these issues all the time, and this, and that. And I just don’t think it’s smart to do that. I think we just shoot ourselves in the foot.</p>
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<p>So, you know, I’m all aboard of speaking about these issues, but I want people out there to understand that we have to be, you know, kind of smart about this too. So, I think that’s kind of encapsulates what I want to say about this. I could go on for a long time.</p>
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<p>But Alfred, let’s focus back on you here now and talk more about this., because I want to hear about this. I want you to be in a position to be able to share what you think our audience should know about this historical event. What components of this is important and I also want to again urge people that you might not agree with Alfred.</p>
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<p>You might be a newcomer, you don’t know about this topic, or never really maybe cared about it that much, or your convinced of one way, or another. But just hear Alfred. Hear our other guests out that talk about this and see what conclusions you come to. See if there’s anything to it, because I think this is a vastly important topic, for the reasons that we mentioned Alfred. That, you know, they’ve hinged so many other components on this, in terms of the guilt and like, this is the reason why we must become multi-cultural. This is the reason why we have to accept all these people into our countries. That’s why we can’t have a country which is comprised of our own people as a majority, and stuff like this.</p>
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<p>So it is a focal point, a node point, in their kind of matrix, if you will, of how they managed to keep us trapped and encapsulated. But how would you, &#8230; Assume that we’re talking with someone who is new to the topic and who might even be upset with you, at this point at the things that you have mentioned? What would you like to say to them, and how do you think is the best way to get them into the mindset of how the should relate to this.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well let’s just start with what you said before. That you are mentioned in the UK parliament there. And they said, “<em><i>extreme right-wing</i></em>”. Well I tell you what, I’d rather be extreme “<em><i>right wing</i></em>” then extreme “<em><i>wrong wing</i></em>”! And in our language, and so much of what they’ve done to us is with the words. They use the words and make us associate certain emotions with words, and thereby controlling us, until we are actually upside down in our thinking.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now they have made us believe that to be “<em><i>right</i></em>” is very bad, but I’d rather be right than wrong. And in German, in fact, they use the word “<em><i>left</i></em>”, also means, if you got “<em><i>left</i></em>”, it means you got cheated. And all these jews, these communists, basically are turning everything “<em><i>left</i></em>”! Which means they’re cheating, they’re inverting it. You can turn a shirt “<em><i>inside out</i></em>”, in German you say, “<em><i>Links abbiegen</i></em>” which means “<em><i>turned left</i></em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I want to use that word, because that’s just one example of how they do it with all the words, all the words. They define people as “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” deniers! They define everything they don’t want to hear as “<em><i>hate speech</i></em>”. Now, as long as we bow and bend to these kinds of intimidations then there is no stopping. They will keep driving us further down the road they want to drive us down. And that’s why my position on this is, I guess some people would call it reckless, but I say I will not adhere to any of these thought laws!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And also, if you ever deal with a psychopath, you will know that the psychopath will have a hysterical reaction whether you do a tiny little deviation from what he wants you to do, or if you just, you know, destroy the whole thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s why I say, I notice it too, the people that go to prison here in Germany. Some people go to prison, because they gave three pieces of paper to two people. Well I say if you go to prison for giving three pieces of paper to two people, you might as well go to jail for giving a million pieces of paper to a million people! You see, because you might as well, the punishment is going to be the same. It’s arbitrary.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s one thing, we have to understand what we’re up against and regain our independence in thought and spirit, and we do not have to bow to anybody! Especially not somebody who we know is lying to us on a scale that is beyond most people’s comprehension. And that’s what it is with the jews, as a collective. They have amassed so many lies, that they know that when these lies collapse, that they will be chased out of town and there will not be a jew left alive! , because the people, they don’t have to worry about us, you know, you, or me, we have had time to incrementally come to terms with the frustration and the anger. So we’ve got control of ourselves.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But what about all those people, when they understand just what’s been done to them? Especially now that the big picture, the big plan is, in fact, the extermination of the White race by mass miscegenation and by genocide. And that’s a reality that will catch up to us, no matter how we try to put her head in the sand, or cover our eyes and not look at it. When your house is being invaded by the hordes on the street, then there is no more hiding! They will kill you!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the Germans, the heart of Europe, they went through so much horrible, unspeakable suffering, and now the very descendants of these people that survived that genocide, are on their knees paying the perpetrator for some “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” which never ever happened! In fact, the jews themselves came out of that conflict, that we call the Second World War better than any other race.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">See they did it, just like 9/11, they got the “<em><i>jew call</i></em>”. The jews, they always set the stage. Once they know the fighting is going to begin they get the hell out of there. And all those jews left and got the hell out of there, those are the ones that later claimed “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” restitution, because they are survivors. Now if you took, how many jews there were even though they were the enemy of the Germans, they still fared better than the Germans! If you look at how many were there, how they, you know, percent wise got out of that, made it through, they did very well! Just like 9/11.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">9/11, I think three jews that died, although there was hundreds of jews that worked in those complexes, but they all stayed home that day. Just like they all stayed home, or they all went on vacation and left those cities that were then fire bombed in Germany. And so many jews, they left and then afterwards they claimed “<em><i>Holocaust survivor</i></em>”!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s reality. I mean, they’ve been so, so, so, successful I think it’s even blown their own minds how successful they’ve been. And this success however, has deluded their minds to think it can continue going on that way forever. And now, of course, comes the day of reckoning. Digital technology and our ability to think, and our ability, as people from everywhere figure out what happened in our history, putting all the stuff together out of that what was supposed to be forgotten and erased.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well, digital technology has enabled us to actually bring the stuff back to the surface, put the pieces together. And now we’re putting the big picture together. And the jew, there is no escape. The jew will not, the jews dream is to have a thousand years of, you know, world domination. Well it’s coming to it’s end, probably this year. And that’s why I say that the sooner everybody comes on board and understands this, the better it is., because it is traumatizing, and you cannot erase the emotions of the programs out of your head.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Even if, you know, okay, it’s a lie, you know, this is what the truth is. Until you really have your mind back under your control with the truth and the proper emotions, it’s a traumatic process that can take a long time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I know, even myself, not just a couple of years ago, I still had to really overcome fears of looking at things like, “<em><i>The Greatest Story Never Told</i></em>” by Dennis Wise, for example. I remember the emotions, we had to pull down the blinds before we look at that, somebody might see us. And to go from understanding that Adolf Hitler was not a villain, but probably one of the greatest Europeans, one of the greatest people the Europeans have ever brought forth! On the same scale as the greatest heroes that we’ve ever had in the past. Whether it’s Caesar, or whether it’s, you know, Napoleon, whoever these people are. Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest leaders that we have ever produced!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> So let me pick up on something you mentioned earlier. Again in terms of the labels and this kind of stuff, “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier, for example. I think the articles out there about, you know, me, Red Ice, whatever. I think that’s usually one thing that’s kind of mentioned right away. As a way to immediately discredit! Like here is a untrustworthy, stupid, moronic organization! You know, they once talked about the “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>”, or that it didn’t happen, or whatever.</p>
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<p>So that is kind of bandied around a lot, you know, Henrik is a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier! <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong> </span>Because I’ve had people on the show that don’t believe in the story, in the mainstream story. And it’s also, because I’ve had them on the show and I don’t treat them the way that let’s say, you know, because Fox, or CNN, as media outlets, they can talk about the subject, but you have to have the right relationship to the guest. You have to clearly demonstrate that you’re an opposition to them! And you’re resentful, and almost hateful towards them. Then it’s okay. Then you can touch on it.</p>
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<p>You can’t invite people on the show that you, and again, it doesn’t matter if I agree, or disagree, it’s a crime that I can’t invite people to the show, and ask them questions about what they believe, and give them a platform to share their opinions. That is a crime in itself, right?</p>
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<p>So now, I become a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier. I haven’t even, I don’t have all the facts about the event. I frankly I don’t know who does. I think there’s enough information to know that something is kind of weird with the bits and pieces that we have been given. And something is, I think there’s enough information to demonstrate that it’s not as they claim that it was.</p>
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<p>That’s kind of, and frankly in the most honest way I can explain, what I think about the event., because I know that there’s an incredibly muddy, the waters is so muddy around it historically. And the few bits and pieces we managed to extract, Alfred, we’ve been able to see that it’s like, well, how the hell do you piece the math together here?</p>
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<p>One thing I really like about many of the videos out there that talk about this subject, and the mechanics, if you will, of the event itself, it’s a very, you know, for those that are not familiar with it, it’s a very gruesome way that it’s done., because it’s done in a very cold and scientific way. And that’s also a give away, I feel., because we never get to that level of inquiry in the mainstream. It’s always emotions first, right!</p>
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<p>Every time you talk about this, it’s about, you know, a little girl’s experience, and they get you in that mindset right away, where were you not allowed to just, well wait a moment, let’s not talk about the emotions first! Let’s just zoom out and let’s talk about what actually happened. How did it come together? What do they say that it is, right? In these videos that look at the, for example, the number of bodies that have been taken into the chambers where they were undressed, and so forth. And then, you know, the gas was disseminated and then they transported the bodies up and out through this little kind of small elevator, up to where the crematories are, and stuff like that.</p>
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<p>You know, what I’m talking about. Those kinds of videos that really going to the nitty-gritty detail. That’s were I think the key is, because it shows scientifically and mathematically that this is a very different. It would have been very different to, what should we say, dispose of that many bodies that they claim, for example.</p>
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<p>So from my point of view I think it’s a numbers game. I look at it, and it seems mathematically and scientifically, that what they say to us, that’s an impossibility! And the fact that we’re not allowed to talk about that, or the fact that they have to kind of show this emotional thing first, and avoid the science of it. That’s a dead giveaway to me! So, just from the point of view, I just like, you know, I don’t know what the hell happened!<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong></span> And I don’t have all the details. But something is fishy with the story. That’s where I’m at. What do you feel about this?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well like you said, it’s all emotions and no science. And when you said before, that if you are one of these main stream media, or jew stream media, they can only get on there if you bend to their nonsense. And yet they will scream at, they will denounce someone as being a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier with such hysterical emotion. And people have no self self-esteem anymore, because they are demoralized, there are people who don’t even know which gender they are, don’t have any self-esteem.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And they will scream from one corner to the next, like a little dog, or like a little rat with emotional hysteria. Not even turning their brain on to just think, well what is actually the reality? They are so incapable. See, the danger that we have right now is that a population, when our entire population, has been reduced to this level as spiritual, emotional cripples. Total cripples! We in no way, shape, or form, be ready for the reality that we have to deal with, which is survival in an environment that is going to radically become more hostile to us. When we are being flooded by basically, well, millions of Third World, they call them migrants, hey these is the very worst thing that we could possibly allow to happen.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Because here we are, our children that are now confused about their gender, that have nothing, but their feelings as their main focal point, are now going to have to live, survive, in a world that is being flooded by millions of hostile young men, primarily, from Third World countries. This is a recipe for total, absolute disaster! And for people to bow to emotional tyranny, “<em><i>Holocaust denier</i></em>”! If anybody called me a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier I’d say:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When everybody knows that it’s a lie. Another thing you have to remember, Henrik, is that the mainstream media is falling at free fall speed!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yep, yep.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">About as fast as those three towers on 9/11 fell! Nobody looks at them anymore, nobody takes it seriously. And people are going to Red Ice and similar stations, you probably have one of the best sources around. That’s why they attacked you. That’s why they took you down and destroyed you in a very professional way. And I’m just so glad you guys came back up again. And don’t underestimate the importance of your work, and the responsibility that you carry to help to understand the reality that’s out there., because people are revolted by the mainstream media! They are revolted by our politicians. And they are craving for someone like your platform. Lana, what you guys are doing is just superb!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">I just want to say that now. And I cannot say enough how much I appreciate that. And I’ll tell you, there’s a lot of people out there, that have the same sentiments I do, that I’m expressing to you now. But they don’t tell you. But it’s out there. So don’t underestimate the importance of what you’re doing and, you know, stay strong! Stay safe!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Thank you. Yeah, and I mean, exactly. And we could have been in a situation where we just didn’t talk about these issues, or didn’t go in this direction, but as many people know, who’s been with us for a long time, I’ve always just been a “<em><i>Truth Seeker</i></em>”. That’s what it’s been about! And, of course, about philosophy, philosophical topics, and kind of getting to the nature of reality and these kinds of things as well.</p>
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<p>But when I started waking up to, you know, specifically the migrant invasion and what happened to Sweden, to my own country, back in, for a serious way, back in 2013, 14, something like that. I knew about it before hand, I had done some shows on like <strong>Barbara Spectre</strong>, you know, on these kinds of issues that have had risen up at that point. But it wasn’t the only thing after that point, when I researched some of the history and got really just engaged in the ancient culture of my country, that I felt for the first time that something is being lost! Something incredibly unique and important to me, and my identity, is being lost. And I realized that I had to fight for that!</p>
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<p>And I put everything that Red Ice does, really on the line, because we ventured into an area where even most truth seekers never tread, right? They don’t dare! They don’t want to! They disagree politically and all these kinds of things and it’s just too much. We took an immense risk by going into that area. Talking about migration, talking about the JQ <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Jewish Question]</strong></span>. And, you know, who is behind things, and why they’re doing it to us. What their ultimate goal is. Talking about White genocide, population replacement, and these kinds of issues.</p>
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<p>But again, my stance has always been we have to go where the truth leads us. It’s an observable reality of what is happening in Europe and America right now. And that’s what I want to talk about. And we have to go in that direction. So I appreciate, you know, you mentioning that, because we could have, I would never have done it, but I’m saying for the sake of it, we could have just kind of avoided that and continue on the path as usual. But I feel that wouldn’t have been the responsible thing to do. Wouldn’t have been the right thing to do, and I would have been lying to myself. And I just I couldn’t do that. So thanks for mentioning that.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Another very important thing that anybody working in trying to understand the truth has to have the strength, the character strength to also admit that we believed in lies!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> You see I admit I believed a lot of nonsense and made bad decisions based on the nonsense. I was myself was demoralized and allowed myself to be distracted, because I was so demoralized. And I’m just so grateful that I was able to come to the point where we find ourselves today, and to come out of that condition., because once you come out and once you understand the truthful things, you know, you look at people that choose to remain in the comfortable way, or that they think is comfortable. Sit on the couch and watch TV and believe the lies. They become insignificant. There’s no content in their lives, they’re just nothing!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When this system collapses and those people who understand the truth will be obliged to be leaders of the hundreds, or thousands, of other people, because these zombies will need leadership! They are not even capable of anything anymore. And that’s why it’s important that we just articulate the findings, the conclusions that we come to based on evidence, and so forth, in a way that other people find motivation and interest in understanding it. To come to our side, because the zombies, as long as they believe these lies, and as long as they still emotionally react to these control trigger words, they are not really functioning human beings! Our ancestors would be abhorred, if they saw how people today allow themselves to be driven basically with words! Simple words, that are hysterically projected on them in an emotional way.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, you see the pictures you’re showing right now, I mean, these people coming in they’re filled in their minds with completely different programs than we have been filled with.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">We have been filled with programs that make us submissive and “<em><i>tolerant</i></em>” and we have no self-confidence, no nothing. They <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[invaders]</strong> </span>come in here with a sense of entitlement! And they want something, they were promised all kinds of things. And a lot of these people coming in, they paid their family savings to some smuggler of people, to come to get the house, and the woman, and the car, that was promised! And when they don’t get it, they get angry, and they’ll just go and get it!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That’s what they do. The Talmudic jews, they program people and bring them together and then they make them go at each others throats. And then they try to come and say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Oh, we’ll be the referee and we’ll get this all sorted out again! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And it is a turmoil! It is a disaster! We have to regain our independence, our territorial independence, our spiritual independence, our souls, our history! We have to find our identity and it is our obligation.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Tell us why you think it’s done in this way., because that would seem as a contradiction. We’ve been over this many times on the show, but again we’re talking about this from the from a point of view of having the newcomer in mind, and that’s why it’s important to go over things, over, and over again.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[27:07]</strong></span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, you would think, &#8230; Let’s take the city of Malmo, for example, in Sweden. Where many of the jews in Malmo have been willing, or they’ve been kind of driven out, actually, to a certain extent. They’ve left, because there are so many Muslims that are coming in and controlling large sections of those areas, that they are no longer safe. They can’t walk around with their yamakas <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[yarmulkes (pronounced “<em><i>yamakas</i></em>”, a Yiddish word taken from the Polish word for skullcap)]</strong>,</span> or kippa, whatever it is, in the street. They can’t be visible about who they are. And then you have people like Barbara Spectre. It’s a perfect reference, because it shows someone for the first time, someone<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[a jew]</strong> r</span>eally openly talking about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s many others too that we’ve referenced like <strong>Annahecker Harnee</strong><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span>, <strong>Noel Ignatiev</strong>, there is people in Germany, like <strong>Gregor Gysi</strong> that’s talking about this. Many politicians too, in Germany talking about the replacement, basically. And that Europe has to become multi-cultural.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But tell us about that seeming contradiction that if they bring in lots of Muslims into Europe, then those jewish populations that are in Europe, are going to be targeted themselves. At least those on the street level, maybe not the elite ones, you know, that are owning banks and media corporations and stuff like this. But why is it beneficial for them to do that, when you think, initially, that would be something that hurts their own people?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">If you see this all in the context of the big picture. I’m talking about from the biological point of view. And when I say a biological perspective, I say that looking at us as the White race, the European peoples, and the onslaught of the jew, as a parasite, on the White race to eradicate, or weaken the White race, to the point of not being a hindrance to the jews quest for world domination.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now the jew, as a parasite, will never be able to dominate a functioning planet, but these invaders are an instrument used to destroy us! To breed us down, and basically destroy us. But that is the mind of the psychopathic parasite. This strategy may have worked as long as the jew was going from one European tribe to the next, when one was destroyed it could just sort of slither out the back door before it completely collapsed and go to the next host and start all over there. And this was so successful.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[29:45]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Then the technological revolution was somehow very conducive to this behavior. Let’s look at it in the United States and the film industry, and Hollywood, and so forth. Now the jews never invented anything at all. They just took everything over after we invented it. Look at Thomas Edison. Well, he might have invented the movie cameras and stuff like that, but the jews seemed to have taken over Hollywood and got total control of it. As well as all the media, and everything else. They don’t invent, or create! They just infiltrate and take over, and then use it for their devious purposes. Their business model basically is, now that we have kvetched and sucked as much out of these European peoples as we can, we are so close to world domination, now we have to get rid of them, before they figure it out and retaliate with the retribution that’s coming coming down their way. And that’s the situation we have.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So it’s really the final showdown — them, or us! And everything they have done so far, has brought us to this point — them, or us!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now they want to exterminate us, well if we reverse that one hundred eighty degrees, then we have to exterminate them! And they’re trying to prevent that with “<em><i>thought laws</i></em>”! That we cannot even express this natural biological response that is necessary for us to survive. They’re trying to make it illegal! And that’s not going to work, you see, because this is a biological thing, and the jew knows it. And the more draconian that they come with their pathetic thought laws, people don’t let themselves be driven by that anymore, except the zombies.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But the zombies, they all have to be put down. I mean, I know it sounds really cruel for a moment. But if you have a dog at home and you have conditioned this dog to just bite any blonde person that comes along, for whatever reason. Now you decide that wasn’t a good idea, I want to deprogram the dog. Well if you cannot, if you’re not able to deprogram the dog what are you going to do? You will put it down as a sick dog.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now, I don’t want to talk about our people as being sick dogs, but if we have people that prefer to keep the programs that they have been programmed with, through the psychological warfare that they have been indoctrinated with. If they choose to continue running on these programs, they are not a functioning human being. They are, in fact, standing in the way, serving as our enemies! And the jews even gloat about the fact that they will get the “<em><i>goyim</i></em>” to be instruments of their own destruction!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And these people, these lefties, these communists, our people who throw us in jail, who come and steal my computers, for example, these are our people! And they have been conditioned to do that, and they have to understand — that’s what I told them when they were here just yesterday morning. I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>You guys will all be held to account, and I hope you guys have some pretty good reasons figured out, because it’s not far away. We know your names, we have your faces. Lists are being compiled. And you need to understand what treason is, and you need to understand what theft is! So you figure it out. You’ve got to live with it! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’d rather go to jail. I told them I would rather be dead than doing what you are doing now, stealing my computers!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">This is a final battle between the lie, and deceit, and deception, and our survival! And by God we’ve got to get this right! And we are going to get this right. I know we’re going to get it, right!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[33:23]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> All right, a couple of couple of things there, Alfred. Okay, so the first one I feel it’s important to touch on is, of course, the severity of the situation, and explaining that there is a conflict. It’s very difficult to explain to someone who doesn’t see the on-goings of the world as an existential battle. It’s very easy, I think, for people to be at a point where, &#8230; I don’t know what to call it. Like we made it, right? There’s no war, no major wars, no world wars anymore at least. You know, largely in the West, where we’re safe, it’s fine with it’s prosperity somewhat. I know things are bring degraded slowly. But overall, if you just kind of go along to get along, watch the TV, you have access to your cheap calories, as it were. It would seemingly be, “<em><i>everything’s okay</i></em>” right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what people don’t understand, is that underneath all this, including what the globalists are up to, and stuff like that, there is an intense battle going on for the future of this planet! Of both ownership and control, and who’s going to run things, and stuff like that. And we have to try to explain to people that it’s like no! There are people out there that see you as an existential threat, and they want to control you, or manage you, or replace you, or whatever the situation might be for that individual group.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But there’s people meddling. And it’s at a such a point now when we look at the migrant invasion, and stuff like that. And some of the comments we have from people themselves, that are openly talking about population replacement, and that this is about swamping Europe. We have to get to a point where we realize that it is existential. It is a battle for survival!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Most Europeans are not at that position yet, because we don’t see it that clearly. It’s still somewhat behind closed doors. It’s only the people there really are looking at the stuff, that are finding the quotes, they’re keeping up with the news and stuff like that. And that’s frankly too much for most normies out there! They go along to get along. They don’t understand that this is a battle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what you’re talking about, when you talk about this intense struggle that’s going on between these different groups, I think is very difficult for them to wrap their heads around it. And I also think, that they think, that it is dangerous — and partially I would agree with them — to, for example, group everyone together as a unit in certain situations. There’s always people who are going to break that mold. There’s other people from the group that will talk against what the group is doing and stuff like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[36:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I see the danger in that. But I believe, and correct me if I’m wrong, but when you were talking about the jewish group, you’re talking about primarily the “<em><i>organized</i></em>”, those who have organized efforts? I mean, there are people like <strong>Gilad Atzmon</strong>, who is jewish, but he talks about the kind of things that we talk about. I certainly have no need to go after him, or some of the people that are on our side, who don’t have a problem with us, right?<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong></span> So there is some clarification that I think could be made for the newcomer there. That is not only about grouping people together, but you’re talking about those who are actively, as an interest group, engaged in replacing us, or bringing in migrants, or openly talking about the kind of things that are, frankly, should be a crime against humanity. But how do you see this, and how do we explain it to people?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Good. First of all, those people who think everything is fine, there’s no war. No! There’s a war going on right now. We are now in the final phase of the “<em><i>War of the jew</i></em>” to dominate this world. And you have to see what we call “<em><i>World War One</i></em>” and “<em><i>World War Two</i></em>” in this context. And they needed this period of time to get us in the position that we’re in right now. And see, a lot of the jews themselves are also victims of this insanity. But they are acting as a group. And that’s why I say that jews need to understand that they are being coerced, or led, acting as a group. And as such, they will be dealt with as a group, when this healing process begins.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">They are, I’ve often said, those at the top, those top jews actually hate their own people more than they hate us. They are so extremely self-centered and selfish, that they will risk using their own people as a human shield for when the inevitable retribution comes. And they don’t care! And those jews that haven’t personally done anything wrong, they’re just living their lives, they haven’t lied and cheated, like most jews do.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’m sure there’s some out there that are innocent. Now these jews, &#8230; This is a time for them to come out and start to, for example, help get Monika out of prison, okay? This is something they can really put themselves on record as having done, which they will benefit from, when this lie goes over. They can say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Look! Here’s my accountable evidence that I tried to fight for the truth.</i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Any jew that attacks us for being “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” deniers is guilty! And see, this is where even Gilad Aztmon, unfortunately, very recently, he used to claim he’s an “<em><i>ex-jew</i></em>”, but he still had so much jewishness in him, that he actually talked about the “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” as if it were real!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[38:57]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Any mention of the “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” without qualifying it, for the fraud and lie that it is, is making a person guilty! The “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” and anybody who tries to hold that up, is guilty! That’s as simple as I can put it. I mean, I’m not going to be the judge where this thing goes down. The people in the world are going to be judging it. And I’m just saying, I’m doing everything I can. We are trying to resolve this peacefully! And peacefully means we have to face the facts, no matter what they are! We need to, don’t ignore 9/11, because jews did 9/11, and we don’t want to talk about it!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">You know, I notice they’re talking more, a lot about USS Liberty now. But we need to talk about 9/11! We need to talk about Israel! We need to talk about the entire agenda that is being played out against us! Okay? , because the biological response is coming! And that’s what we are witnessing now. If you outlaw bad weather, and I’m the weatherman, and I predict bad weather, what are you going to do? Shoot me, because I’m predicting a storm?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">We’ve got the set up for a perfect storm. We are facing the perfect storm! And we have to prepare ourselves for that. So those people who are sitting on the couch thinking it’s all nice and quiet, &#8230; I crossed the Atlantic on a sailboat a number of times, and before a bad storm, it can be really nice on deck. But if you don’t get ready for it, with your sails, with just everything you have to do it, you will not survive the storm!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We are coming into a storm and when we have masses of people that do not belong to us in our cities, and our infrastructure breaks down, we will have to deal with these people! And dealing with them will not be pretty! , because them going around taking what they want, is not the solution. It’s going to be, too many people on limited territory, with even more limited resources, and this used to be our territory! It used to be our civilisation!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now we have our young people, they don’t even know which gender they are! Now do you understand what I’m getting at?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Now they’re not confused about their gender, because that’s natural, that did not come, you know, as a natural organic kind of development. That came, because they were indoctrinated that way, by the jews! Not by us! By the jews! And that’s something that is a fact. And nobody can dispute that fact. So that’s what we’re facing so, you know, that’s what I think.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah, I think what you said there too is an important point. And I’ve heard others, frame it in that way too. And I believe that there’s something to that. That basically the conditions that have been created, this powder keg condition really, that has been created, is something that people need to be aware of that it’s going to blow up! I’m with you on that page too. I think that if things can be solved peacefully, they should be. They should be addressed and tackled before it gets to that point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But that’s where most people decide to look away. And they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>No, it’s too difficult, it is too painful</i></em>”, or “<em><i>I don’t want to be called a racist for opposing migration.</i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or whatever, despite the fact that they can see with their own eyes and experience in the real world, that things are getting worse in their own country. They’re being sidelined by their own government. Other people are being favored, before them, etc. Like, it’s their duty to save others and take care of others before their own people.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[42:31]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So, what you’re saying, and what I’ve heard other people say too, is that there’s an awful lot of anger and resentment, because of that. That’s building up, right? That eventually, down the line, if it gets that far, we don’t know where this is going to go. We don’t know if, let’s say the Europeans start fighting back, right? And all of a sudden it turns into, all of Europe turns into a Bosnia, or Kosovo, or something like that, right?</p>
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<p>Let’s assume the rest of the world descends on Europe, and like, cleans it, cleans it out! , because we dared to fight back, against people that are trying to invade our lands. And once they’ve turned really hostile in an open level towards us, or something like that, who knows where this is going to go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But my point is, it should be resolved at this point. It should be addressed at this point, before it gets too far., because when people are realizing what has happened, they are probably going to ask questions:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>Well, how did this happen? And who did this? </i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And these kinds of things, right? So that’s an important step, Alfred, in the process of just recognizing that isn’t it better to try to tackle and address these things now? And to try to prevent just the reaction of anger, and violence, and resentment, to bloom in the world! , because that’s when it really is going to start getting ugly, and you’re not going to be able to straighten anything out at that point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You are not going to be able to make, you know, up, or down of anything, at that point. It’s just the going to be utter chaos! And I don’t want to see that! I know my lot of people don’t want to see that, either! So that’s why we have to address it. We have to be honest about what is going on. Why it’s happening. Who’s doing it<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong></span> and try to straighten it out politically! And with political will, because I still think there is time to do that. We’re not a minority yet, in most of our countries. It’s heading that way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Wait another five, ten years in some countries, and it’s going to start heading in that way. But there’s still time. But it’s an incredibly difficult situation, because when these things have happened historically, if we’re honest about this and look at, you know, World Wars and conflicts on this level, and this scale, there’s always people who don’t deserve something, that have been squeezed in this situation. And they have taken the brunt end of what other people have done. And it’s kind of a messy situation, if, you know, what I mean.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[44:48]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Absolutely! And going back to what you were saying before. Our empathy, or our bad feelings, or our guilt, and so forth, our pathological altruism is being used so against us. And part of the solution is overcoming these words that are triggering unhealthy responses, for example, “<em><i>racist</i></em>”, or “<em><i>anti-semitism</i></em>”. These are weaponized words that should be called out, as “<em><i>marked cards</i></em>” in a card game that we’re playing.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anytime this word comes, stop it in it’s tracks and do never, ever, apologize! , because these are marked cards. If you’re playing a card game, and it’s about life and death, it’s about your future and your existence, and then sometime deep into the game, you realize you are being dealt marked cards, what do you do? I would call these cards out on the spot! And say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>That is a marked card! And explain that one to me! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So when somebody says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Oh! If you do that, you’re a racist! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Pardon me. What are you talking about? What do you mean? Are you telling me that there is no difference between a race horse and a plow horse? Are you telling me, I am a race conservationist? </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I want to conserve the races for what they are. They’re very different and that’s good. I am for multi-culturalism, and if we just sort of mix them all together, it’s a little bit like if I took your body, Henrik. Your bones are too White and hard, your brain is too gray and gooey, your liver is too brown and gooey, so I’m going to put you through the blender. Now I’ve got you multi-culturalized, but you’re very dead! That’s what this multiculturalism is with these people coming in, these hordes is going to do to us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And remember, it was the Europeans that are responsible for well over ninety percent of all technological inventions, that make our life what we know it today. And I’m not talking just about these inventions, I’m talking about music, and all these other things. And if we don’t keep this continent exclusively European, all that will be gone!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, our ancestors would never have achieved what they achieved, because they allowed the hordes out of Africa, or Asia to overwhelm them, because it was a good place to have a free lunch. You see, all these people coming and now, they’re coming here, because it’s a free lunch! They are actually people that are turning their backs on their own people, for a free lunch, at the cost of the Europeans!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now when you see a city like Malmo, or something, and there’s no Swedes left in there anymore, but all kinds of, there’s Muslims all over the place wearing hijabs, and so forth. Hey! That’s a colonization! They have colonized you! Now when your forefathers, the Vikings, I mean, they would roll over it disgust and shame, when they see what’s happened to their offspring! Their little boys are not even sure that they’re boys anymore! That, you know, that they think that this is a joke, or something! It’s not a joke, this is survival!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah, and it is.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[47:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">And we do not have to, we are not obliged to feel sorry for any of these people. They have their homes! Ask them, why do you turn your back on your own people!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">You’ve something here? Then go back home! You’ve got your place. This is ours! And if you don’t understand what that means? Well see what happens to you if you stick around., because I’ll tell you, if you think the mood is getting bad now, just look around and see where it’s going. It’s not going to get prettier!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> No. That’s just it, and it’s horrendous, you know, that it’s that’s in the direction where it goes to. I still think, you know, I still think that the level of compassion that we have seen in the Indo-European mind, if you will, that we’re the ones who pushed the Human Rights. We’re the ones who came with the aspect of equality and egalitarianism. And although there’s follies in those proposals, those philosophical ideas, or errors in those ideas, I still think that appealing to compassion among our own people is still the successful recipe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I know that there’s a lot of people out there, they’re way beyond that, they’re like, they’re ready to go to war, that kind of thing. They’re pissed off! They’re upset about this. They truly hate in that regard. And that isn’t their fault, they have been pushed in that direction.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But just from a strategy kind of point of view, if that’s the right word to use, I think it was Frank Salter who talked about that. He said, and I think it was a good point, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>You’re not going to initially get the majority of European people to drop the aspect of equality and compassion. But those are elements that you have to work with.</i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You have to steer the conversation, not by coercion, because I think it’s just the truthful past, but you have to show that the long-term picture. That well, due to the compassion and the equality, and all those things that you’re enforcing right now. It is going to turn into a hellish scenario later on! We have to see the long-term picture, not just the short-term gratification that these people feel good, you know, internally, or emotionally. That:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>Oh I did something good today! </i></em>”, or, “<em><i>I help people</i></em>”, or “<em><i>I don’t say no! </i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>I’m pro open borders, and therefore I’m a better person than you! </i></em>” and “<em><i>I’m open hearted and loving.</i></em>” and all that stuff.</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My point is, no! If you truly were open-minded, open hearted and warm, and have compassion in your heart, and thinking about people’s welfare in the future, you would see the big picture and say:</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em><i>No! Wait a minute. This is leading to disaster, and so let’s try to prevent that.</i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I’m what I’m saying, Alfred, is just I think that there’s still an unused, untapped territory within this debate in this topic, where we can try to show to our people that what you’re advocating for, if you’re a liberal, and if you’re open hearted like this. That, that path is going to lead to misery and conflict at the end of it. And if we can show that, there is some hope to turn more people over to our side if, you know, what I mean., because I’m certainly, I don’t come from a perspective of hate, although I understand why some people have become hateful, but I think it’s a very important to still appeal to compassion. Still appeal to the traits within us that are unique, to a certain extent, and that are much more open really, than many other groups around the world. What do you think about?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[51:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah. Since my own awakening and really understanding the absolute lies that have been foisted on us, I have, and you’re talking about love and compassion, I have a love and a compassion, and an understanding, for our ancestors, my parents, their grandparents, and so forth. That I never had before.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And before, when I was still mentally ill, because of the indoctrination. I was a zombie okay, I confess, I was a zombie! There’s nothing shameful about that. We are all zombies at some time. There’s very few people that weren’t. And I did not have that respect, I sort of saw my ancestors as they were sort of anonymous, kind of far away. And now since understanding what they have gone through, as Germans, you know, and the expelling out of the east, the genocide, and so forth. And Dresden, and all these things, I have a compassion and an understanding and respect for them I never knew I had.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And it’s like, I think it was Plato had said, that “<em><i>people without roots have no direction</i></em>”. And you have to understand your forefathers to have roots. These are our roots! And somebody who thinks they’re a good person, because everybody is equal, they’re just believing just total nonsense!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, look at the birds. Are all the birds the same? No. There’s sparrows, there’s seagulls, there’s hawks. There’s all kinds of different birds. They’re not all the same! And neither are we! Have you ever seen a pygmy excel at high jumping? And I haven’t. So they’re not equally see. Now, if Europeans and Africans are the same, why is it that the Africans didn’t even invent so much as the wheel, and we invented all kinds of fancy things? Everything!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When you see Africans walking around now in our cities with the latest iPhone, well good for them. But they didn’t invent those things. They got them given to them by people like George Soros. So, we are not equal! So anybody who says, you know:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Oh, if you think everyone is equal, you’re a better person.</i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I say these people are mentally retarded. They’re mentally crippled. They’re victims of the psychological warfare. They have been contaminated with these lies!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> It’s what is used against us to make sure that we agree with the agenda. They’ve found a kind of code, a mechanism in us, by using our compassion against us, right? They’ve used, to certain extent, our strength against us, and said — it’s not our only strong ability obviously, but it’s a big part of it — and they’ve unlocked that, and said:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em><i>You know what, let’s twist and turn the situation like this, and say you’re compassionate if you allow XYZ, and that’s kind of, &#8230; It’s like a code that they’ve broken, right?</i></em></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[54:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Yes. They use our strong characteristics and turn them around so elegantly, slowly over a period of time, and then, until we use it against us. Our women are standing some place with “<em><i>Refugees Welcome</i></em>” <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[signs]</strong></span>. That is absolute suicide! In past generations, had any women done that, they would have been flogged! They would have been thrown out of society. They would have been the most disgusting pieces a crap, pardon my language, but that’s what it is.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And here they are being, by the jewish media, they are being held up in high esteem, as the most honorable people! They are doing something treasonous, that is suicidal. And that is our demise! We are not equal! No. Get that idea out of your mind.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We are very different, and that’s good that we’re different. We grew up in different geographies, at different rates, at different times. That’s good, we’re all different, there’s nothing wrong with that, you know. And that’s the reality.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And like I said, when things get tight, and things get scarce, and we understand that we are defending the homeland, and the invaders are defending a free lunch, we have a different motivation to get back what is rightfully ours. And that’s what I’m confident that we’re going to do this right!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right. The last final point on this Alfred, before we start rounding up here.</p>
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<p>Obviously the migration, the refugee waves, and all that kind of stuff that we’ve seen, it’s a very kind of, “<em><i>in your face</i></em>” and direct assault, an attack. At these for those who are paying attention. Again <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong> </span>many others see this as, “<em><i>oh! I’m helping! </i></em>” you know, it’s like Ralph Wiggum.</p>
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<p>But here’s other ways, there’s a cold, if that’s the hot war, so to speak, or a warm war, and there’s a cold war as well. And we just briefly talked about this in the break. For example, what happened in the wake of Charlottesville, stuff like that. A lot of things unfolded after that point. We don’t have to get into all that, it’s a big story. But what triggered that is, of course, that people were basically, they wanted to protest against the removal of statues in the South, for example, in the States. And this is something that happens in many parts of Europe now, as well. The UK have started, I believe Germany is on that path to. Where basically if it’s an old the dead White guy, right, then that needs to be torn down and attacked and stuff like that.</p>
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<p>But, just for a moment, maybe we can talk about what an act of, not only violence, but as you say, it’s colonialism. It’s just full on takeover where, you know, the people who built our countries that have given everyone in that country the fruits of what they have, included those newcomers, that have just come in. The utter disrespect and the utter, I just, it’s disgusting! I don’t know what else to call it. The way that they are tearing down these statues, they’re renaming schools, they’re removing our history. They’re just rewriting it as if these men never existed at all! That’s what I feel it’s about. It’s almost like it is sleight of hand of saying, you know, this never existed! There’s no such thing as a White country! It’s like a Jeddi mind trick, or something.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[57:09]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> This is one of the symptoms of the genocide that is being perpetrated against us! See, if we don’t even respect those people who our ancestors knew were real true heroes, like Robert E. Lee was a real true hero! Now when they take any of these statues down we should be out there by the thousands, or the hundreds of thousands, and keep that statue up! And if you take one down, we put at one that’s twice as big, in it’s place! How can anybody respect us if we have such low self-respect, that we allow anybody — the jews are the ringleaders of those people taking these things down — that is our identity. Those are our ancestors! We are all we are all obliged to be even just only half as heroic, and keep that statue up there!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And like I said, they take one down, we to put one twice as big back up, and another one on top! Like we cannot let that happen. That is our genocide!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right! Showing some of the pictures here, this is from Dallas. It’s amazing this has happened, in so many places, around the US, right now. They just take these statues down. Here’s a Robert E. Lee Park in Arlington, in Dallas. It’s just absolutely amazing that these boys here, the cops, the suits, they just line up to defend this action. I don’t think they know truly what they’re doing. But I hope that they’re angry. I hope that some know. I hope that some realize.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Because this is the jew!</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>The goyim will be agents, instruments of their own destruction!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When our security people are making sure they can remove these statues, yeah, it’s like saying:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Let me stick this knife into my heart. Let me just kill myself! And let’s have everybody help me kill myself!</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">This is our suicide! These are real points, this is a real actionable item if you want to say. Taking down a statue like that should not happen! That should be put back in there, no matter how we do it, we have to get the statues back to where they were.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">What are they going to put there in it’s place? A statue of Martin Luther King, you know, this drinking, partying, sex pervert that they stylized up to be our hero and make a national holiday! Taking our ancestors, our heroes that built the country, down, and putting these perverts in their place? Putting some fagot their place? No, no, no! That can’t be it. If we are that weak and cannot prevent that from happening, then we will deserve the demise that we will be facing.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> All right. Interesting conversation. Lot to chew on here, of course. Let’s see what people think. Lots of interesting points, Alfred. I want to thank you for your time today. It was very interesting having you back and, of course, I want to wish you and your sister the best, in the whatever now, is going to happen. The legal battles.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[60:07]</strong></span></p>
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<p>I mean, it’s a is an extraordinary situation, and I urge and I hope, no matter if people agree, or not, with the kind of things that Monika and yourself talk about, that they recognize that this is a clear violation of all the things that they claim that they’re fighting for, for other people.</p>
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<p>So it should be a huge free speech issue! There should be number of people just rallying to this cause, getting vocal and loud about it, making sure that they help Monika out of prison and then that she gets not only fair treatment, but that they explain to her, why they’re holding her, and that she actually can reach out to you.</p>
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<p>So, is there anything, last words you like to say about, if you guys have a strategy, legally, to get her out, or what?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">The strategy is there’s no way to get her out legally! We’re going to get her out with pure pressure! People writing letters. Write her letters make sure that, you know, you see through their lies. The address, it’s in multiple blogs. Go to the “<strong><em>We are Monika</em></strong>” blog and the address is there. Write, the political prisoner <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong>, and so forth. You don’t have to write much. Just say, we’re thinking of you, and thanks for your struggle.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/how-you-can-help-monika-schaefer-cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16919" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/how-you-can-help-monika-schaefer-cover.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="774" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">See: <a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/01/14/andrew-hitchcock-with-alfred-schaefer-how-you-can-help-monika-schaefer-transcript/">Andrew Hitchcock with Alfred Schaefer – How YOU Can Help Monika Schaefer! — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And we are at war with insanity! Okay? This is a war against thinking, working, people. And if we don’t win, then this earth is going to become a hell hole! So we are trying to basically save civilization, we’re going to do this as peacefully as possible as possible in a civilized way as possible. And jews have the opportunity now to prove that they are actually not guilty, by making an effort to get Monika out! Write a letter, you know, say and write that:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>I’m a jew and I will I think it’s not right and the “</em><em><i>Holocaust</i></em>”, I’m sorry that we’re part of this monstrous lie.”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That would be a good start and can be very good in your defence when this lie goes over.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I would not want to be a jew at this point in time, if I didn’t do something to help bring the truth out! And that’s about all I can say at this point. Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Sure, you got it! So there’s the address anyway right there on the screen, but it’s a video right there on the link to the website, that will leave down below, as well. So check that out folks.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much Alfred for coming on. Keep us posted on in terms of what’s going on. I’m really interested in following the case, and I wish you and your sister all the best. And thank you for daring to speak your truth and following through on it. I know that there’s tremendous pressure involved in that. I know it’s incredibly difficult but, you know, for you guys to dare to walk your own path, that’s an extraordinary thing to do in these times of conformity. So thank you Alfred.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Thank you Henrik. Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Well guys, that concludes our show. A big “<em>Thank You</em>” to all our members. We are really picking up the frequency of shows and videos, and <em><strong>Weekend Warrior</strong></em> shows.</p>
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<p>Once again, we’re really excited about this year. A lot of good things are in the works and a lot of exciting things are going to happen. We have a lot of plans. So thank you for being part of Red Ice for supporting us for helping us to grow. Take care folks and we’ll be back before you know it! See you soon.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Henrik of Red Ice Radio interviews Canadian-German activist Alfred Schaefer on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust&#8220;. In Part &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/02/04/red-ice-tv-thought-criminal-monika-schaefer-arrested-and-imprisoned-in-germany-part-1-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<strong>Henrik</strong> of <strong>Red Ice Radio</strong> interviews Canadian-German activist <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong> on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>&#8220;. In Part 1 here, Alfred explains the intellectual journey that both of them took to arrive at the position that Western Civilization is being destroyed by organized jewry through a long term strategy of psychological </span><span style="color:#008000;">and physical subversion, with them, for example, being the power behind the invasion of Western countries by non-Whites.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Part of the subversion of Whites has been achieved through the diabolical lie known as the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; that is used by organized jewry as a &#8220;<em>shield and sword</em>&#8221; to draw attention away from its massive crimes against humanity, such as the instigation of the World Wars, 9/11, etc., while also instilling guilt and shame in Whites for their very existence.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred is a tireless and impassioned &#8220;<em>man on a mission</em>&#8221; to alert all to the reality of our dire situation and the forces behind our looming racial and cultural destruction, if we fail to act! I would urge all readers to support Alfred in his work and to help him in exposing the Orwellian situation that his sister, Monika, finds herself in as a &#8220;<em>thought criminal</em>&#8220;, now locked up in a maximum security prison in Germany —<strong> KATANA</strong>.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Write to Monika now, at:</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Monika Schaefer.</span><br />
<span style="color:#008000;"> Stadelheim Prison.</span><br />
<span style="color:#008000;">Schwarzenbergstr. 14<br />
81549 München,<br />
GERMANY.</span></h3>
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<h1 class="yt watch-title-container" style="text-align:center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#0000ff;">Red Ice TV</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Alfred Schaefer</span></h1>
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<h1 class="yt watch-title-container" style="text-align:center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#0000ff;">Thought Criminal</span></h1>
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<h1 class="yt watch-title-container" style="text-align:center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#ff0000;">Monika Schaefer</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align:center;"> Alfred Schaefer is a German producer whose videos are aimed at exposing the propagandistic nature of the mainstream media. His videos outline how the hostile elite that are in control of much of Western Civilization have managed to subjugate entire populations and their political leadership through psychological conditioning.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Alfred Schaefer joins Henrik for a discussion about the consequences of challenging the accepted view of the Holocaust. The program begins with Alfred describing what it was like to grow up in Canada with German ancestry amid an accusatory climate of Holocaust remembrance. He describes his sister Monika’s newly found skepticism of the prevailing historical view of the Second World War and her subsequent video productions. Alfred recounts how Monika was arrested in Munich because of her videos that challenged the prevailing mainstream consensus concerning the Holocaust while attending the trial of Sylvia Stolz, a lawyer on trial for so-called Holocaust denial. Henrik and Alfred discuss with incredulity how pursuing historical inquiry can lead to criminal charges and imprisonment.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">In the members’ hour, Henrik and Alfred talk about the fractured nature of facts surrounding the nature of the Holocaust itself and the need for further research. The conversation then addresses the migrant crisis and how it constitutes a threat to Western civilization and how it can be viewed as a destructive companion phenomenon to Holocaust guilt and other Leftist propaganda. The conversation turns to the freefall of the mainstream media, how people crave alternative media sources, and the importance of outlets like Red Ice. Henrik speaks to the risk involved with pursing the truth about the migrant crisis, its origins, and underlying motivators. The discussion then turns to the seeming contradictions of population replacement.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Henrik and Alfred go on to discuss the severity of the current geopolitical situation as an existential crisis; the importance of pursuing moderate solutions to avoid widespread conflict; and much more.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Welcome ladies and gentlemen. Henrik here with Red Ice TV. Thank you so much for tuning in. It’s always a pleasure having you with us. Today we have a issue of free speech coming to you a little bit over a year ago we had a gentleman called Alfred Schaefer on the show. I think we had him on twice actually, and his sister as well, Monika. We did a show with her. She had actually done a five-minute video that was called, “<em><strong>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the “<em>Holocaust</em></strong>”. </em>Which was a very good video. It was an honest, very down-to-earth video about her own kind of personal and emotional experiences growing up in Germany <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Canada]</strong></span>, all the things that she was taught, etc. And<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[01:01]</strong> </span>her basically waking up to a kind of a different story, if you will.</p>
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<p>And this has, in hindsight, caused a ruckus not only, of course, in Canada where she and Alfred was living, but now they’ve gone back to Germany. And they’re it’s, you know, this has intensified, if you will. So we have Alfred back with us on the show here today. And I shall go through some of this and talk a bit more in detail about what actually happened. And I want to Alfred. Welcome first of all, but I want everyone, kind of don’t assume that people know the case. Let’s talk about it from the beginning and what actually happened Alfred.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Good. I’ll just go back to the summer of 2016. Monika was here with Professor Tony Anthony Hall and we did a number of video productions. And what really rocked the boat here was a five, or six minute video that Monika did, one in German, one in English. It’s called “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em>”. And in this video, a very heartfelt video, she explained how she<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[02:02]</strong></span> growing up in Canada as a German. And how the propaganda, when we started being indoctrinated with the propaganda, the people in school like back at that time, the Germans were vilified, really vilified, to the max!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That was like twenty years after, well that was in the 60s so that was 20 years after the end of hostilities, of what we call World War Two. And Monika described how she experienced that as a youngster in school, when she wore her traditional German dress and how the people mocked her. And then she started reproaching, to she eventually reproached our parents, particularly her our mom, for what the evil Nazis did., because when you are told as a little child these kinds of stories you just assume that you’re being told the truth, you just would not imagine that you would be lied to by those people who you trust who you look up to.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anything they tell you believe it. I mean, that’s our nature. If you’re growing up and your parents tell you to this, or that you have to believe it, because if you don’t you wouldn’t survive. If your parents tell you don’t go jumping in that pond, because there’s alligators there and you don’t listen, well you get eaten by the alligators. So it’s our nature, our inherent nature to believe what we are told.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And this has been used against us to inculcate us and indoctrinate us with these stories which vilify our own ancestry, our own heritage. So Monika went to her mom and she says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Mom why didn’t you do something to stop these evil Nazis?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so forth. And then later on, not that long ago, she figured out, “<em>well geez this is all lies</em>”. And she told me that once and I says:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So we did that. She wrote a beautiful text. She was here on a visit and she gets in front of the <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[04:01]</strong></span> camera and we made this video, “<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And it got it really took off well. And then the Israeli, the jews got wind of it. And it was all over the Israeli press it in multiple languages. They were just really:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Wow, you know, this politician Canadian politician denies the “</em><em>Holocaust</em>” in a video!”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And what really shook them, rattled their cage, was there had not been a video of this kind before, where you’re really basically undoing so much of the psychological warfare they have done against us. And this was basically undoing it in one big swoop.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So they were very nervous about that. And they tore her to pieces! And vilified her! And then when Monika went back to Jasper <strong>[Alberta, Canada]</strong>, she had to endure the most extreme ritual defamation you could possibly imagine. And thank God that Monika has <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[05:00]</strong> </span>the spirit that she does, because not many people would have survived that. I mean, she basically lost pretty much all her violin students, and people were strongly:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">It was just like the witch trials 300 to 400 years ago. Just amazing.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah! Exactly! That’s absolutely true and it’s amazing that of course, you know, we don’t even have to get into the mechanics of what it is that Monika actually believes. It’s the audacity that she has come to a different conclusion that other people, than the masses, than the majority. I mean, I we know, of course, that this is punishable a crime in many countries now to think differently about a historical event.</p>
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<p>Which is amazing and it amazing that so few free speech activists come out in support of these people who have come to a different conclusion. And in it’s in this case I think they want to make an example, not only out of her, but we know other scenarios in Germany, like <strong>Sylvia Stolz</strong>, of course. And I forget the older lady’s name now, obviously you, you know.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: <span style="color:#0000ff;">Ursula Haverbeck</span></strong>.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly. Haverbeck. Thank you. Yes absolutely. So they’ve gone after older women on this now in Germany! I mean, it’s absolutely fascinating., but tell us first, how did, &#8230; Was in Canada did you guys decide to go back to Germany what happened there?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> Y<span style="color:#0000ff;">eah she came she was wondering, she wanted us to, you know, we wanted to connect up again and she has a lot to do in Canada, so she figured sort of on the spur of the moment, she’s gonna go visit Alfred in Germany now at Christmastime. So she gets on the plane, you know, hops over here, and we have just a wonderful time. And I told my comrades here, you know, Monika’s coming and so forth. And then Henry Hoffenmayer says:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So it’s real spur-of-the-moment decision. We went there, we go there as quiet observers. And watching these proceedings was beyond bizarre. It really is an inquisition! They would refer we<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[07:02]</strong> </span>were sitting in the back there, then in comes Sylvia Stolz and her attorney. And at the front are this decrepit snake of a state prosecutor, and the other people that are in there, which are, you know </span><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Alfred laughs]</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then if Sylvia Stolz and her attorney would be, you’re talking about like explaining things, you know, this and that. And no matter how logically and precise they would explain something, the state prosecutor would brush it aside with just a simple, you know, “<em>jibber-jabber</em>” that didn’t even make sense. So this is the nature of an inquisition. An inquisition is like in the old days. They would put you in a sack, throw you out in the water, and if you sank you were innocent. And if you stayed on top, you are guilty and will be tortured. You cannot win in an inquisition. And these trials are an inquisition. There is no hope in hell and they try to bind these people<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[08:00]</strong> </span>in this legal process here. To drain them of all their resources, tie them up.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, if you see these people, how much money they are being paid by the taxpayer and by the poor victim! And it goes days and days and they just, it’s a jibber-jabber nonsense. It’s utter destructive nonsense!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anyway, we were in that courtroom there and somebody behind us, or beside her, somewhere, said:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh that must be Monika Schaefer! I mean, that’s her, we recognize her.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so they called for a surprise break about 45 minutes into the hearings there. And so we says okay, we stretch our legs, go outside. We step outside the room and then this different state prosecutor comes, accompanied by three very heavily, well armed thugs, kind of thing. And they asked her:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">They took her to the side and they were talking with her, slapped her<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[09:01]</strong> </span>in handcuffs and dragged her off.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik:</strong> Right there?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Right there and then! Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik:</strong> Absolutely! Did you get, I mean, did you guys have any suspicions about this, or like?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">No, no! It was a total surprise.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik:</strong> Not paranoid to show up in public like, after that?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> And the funny thing is, I thought okay they must have, they probably arrested her for things that we had done while she was here., because we had a guy come from France, another, you know, a guy who was, well I hate using the word “<em>revisionist</em>”, a person exposing historical truth. And he came here, because he felt so alone there in Paris.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And when he was here, and he played the accordion, a really good accordion a player. And so Monika and him were making music every day. We were just doing cultural things. And one day we went to Andechs</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[a hilltop Benedictine monastery, church &amp; medieval pilgrimage center with a brewery &amp; a beer garden]</strong></span><span style="color:#0000ff;">, which is a monastery nearby here with a beautiful beer garden and so forth. And we’re in this beer hall and then the brass band came in and it’s pretty filled up with people.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And Monika was</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[10:01]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">just so elated with energy, she stood up and gave the Roman salute!</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[both laughing]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">And, you know, what happened? Well somebody else behind her gave the Roman salute! And nobody came and, you know, and says, “<em>Hey you Nazis!</em>”, or anything. And people were chuckling and sort of, “<em>Oh, what’s going on here?</em>” But people were giving us a thumbs up and so forth.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then, when she was arrested then a few days later at the court, at the &#8220;<em>inquisition</em>&#8221; of <strong>Sylvia Stolz</strong>, I was sure it was for this incident! , but it wasn’t. It was actually for “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the “</em><em>Holocaust</em>”. So with this, I say this is the most spectacular “<em>own goal</em>” that I have ever seen anybody make! I mean, Sylvia Stolz, they were trying to basically put her, flush her down the memory hole. And they’d love it if Monika would just disappear., but now they have elevated both of these courageous women, right onto center stage on the world stage. And that’s where we need them.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now this might be some discomfort for Monika for a while., but</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[11:02]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">the week that we had here before this happened, she had her batteries charged up to the max with wonderful dialogues we had. The conversations we had. With the cultural events with the Roman salute at <strong>Andechs</strong> there. And the positive feedback she got from that. So it’s good.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now she knows, she’s very well aware of the importance of the role that she is in right now. And there’s no resolving this in their “<em>jewdicial</em>” system. We to resolve this on the political level. So we are going to amplify this and make it make it as embarrassing as possible for the powers that be. They need to know it is time to come out with a White flag and apologize for all these lies, because they cannot possibly stop it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">There’s trying to stop it with extreme censorship here. Oh, let me just say one thing. When Monika came here and before her arrest, and she’s doing her her mail, or emails</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[12:00]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">and we’re looking a lot on the internet, and she says:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">All the stuff that she could still see in Canada, like videos and so forth, it’s all blocked here. It’s extreme censorship right now. And it’s accelerating. It’s intensifying. So they think, in their hubris, that they can keep the lies covered by censoring., but I always say, if you have a small child at home and you say, “<em>do not look in this drawer here!</em>” And then you go out of the room, where’s the first drawer that the person’s got the child’s going to look in? Precisely that drawer they’re not supposed to look. This is human nature and this our curiosity. And I mean, it’s our nature. We want to know what’s going on around us.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly. Well I mean, the important thing to remember too is, of course, that this is not hurting anyone. This is a victimless crime and it’s a personal investigation, if you will, that someone is doing into a historical event. It’s their choice, it’s not<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[13:01]</strong></span>, you know, hurting anyone else.</p>
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<p>And the fact is that I mean, we know that in Germany this has been made a crime. And I believe that, if I recall the statutes correctly, was basically it has been established by law what the history is. And if you do come with a different conclusion then you’re breaking that law of the established history. And so what has she found out consequently? Are you in communication with her every day, every other day, and what’s the charges and stuff like this? Tell us about that?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Okay, first of all, we are trying to communicate with her. It is not possible. She is completely isolated from the outside world now. She’s not isolated from the other inmates, but she is completely isolated from us and the outside world. We had the Canadian Consulate go there and that was a not easy to get that arranged. But the Canadian Consulate did go there. Actually, as a woman and a man, a consul and the Consul General, or something like that.</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[14:00]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then they said afterwards:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well now, we were there and now we cannot visit her again for six months.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That’s the rules they have. And they cannot get involved in the legalities. So it’s basically, well this is a dark time in our history, right now, that this is happening.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> And will Canada fight for it? I mean, if she’s not been extradited, &#8230; But how can she end up under the jurisdiction of German law? They haven’t explained this, I would reckon? They just snatched her, and that’s it?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">They snatched her! This is a completely illegal thing! This is outside of law and order as we know it. And, you know, I’ll tell you how obscene this whole thing has become. I was just raided a couple days ago, again, and it is, because of the shitstorm that we’re stirring up with Monika’s arrest. So they’re really unhappy now. But it shows that we’re on the right track, because even uncle Adolf, or Adolf Hitler, he used to say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>If the jews are not attacking you, it’s, because your work is mediocre. It’s not really doing much.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[15:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Once they notice you and they start attacking you, it’s, because they are afraid that you are making inroads into their construct of lies. So yeah, that’s where we are now.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> What about Canada? Have they as you said, okay they visited the consulate there, but have they not tried to say:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#333333;">“<em>Hey this is a Canadian citizen! You can’t just take him!</em>” right?</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> No! If you look at the Canadian government, they are even more repulsive and they are even lower down than the German government. All of our governments in the Western world right now are about as low as they can get! And that’s a problem now, because they have all been maneuvered into the positions that they find themselves in, because of their corrupt morals. They can be manipulated and they will do as their jewish masters expect them to! And no Canadian government, no German government, no government is going to help her!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[16:01]</strong><br />
</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">This is something that we have to resolve basically from the bottom. From just a massive awareness. And right now, Monika is one of the most valuable fulcrums that we have to leverage this message out there. Because even those who think that life consists of sitting on a couch watching TV, even some of these zombies will start to understand that when they take somebody, throw her in jail, just arrest her on the spot, throw her in jail, because of a heartfelt apology to her mother!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">At the same time that these hordes and hordes of military-age black and brown men, like a tsunami of them, are flowing into our countries, and they get a free pass to do anything they want! They even get helpers to show them how to get this and get that from our society! They get benefits and somebody who comes to the logical conclusion, because they’ve looked at the evidence they get thrown in jail</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[17:00]</strong></span>. <span style="color:#0000ff;">That is something that needs to be addressed. And this is something that will affect each and every one of us. Nobody is going to escape this imbalance that we have in our system right now.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah definitely. There’s a legal inconsistency for sure here. I mean, there are actually victims of rape, etc., that are not getting the aid of the law. The full reach of the law, if you will. There are many people that actually walk free. I’ve heard cases, Lana <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Henrik’s co-host and wife]</strong></span> did a video just a couple of weeks ago about a few of these cases, where they walk free. And I think some of the judges have said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Well they, it’s a cultural, they don’t understand the culture. They just need to be educated, basically.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they there let go! But the point is, that’s a clear crime with a victim. In this case, there’s no victim. No one is being hurt. But maybe someone is “<em>offended</em>” by it, right? Because these are awful opinions to have, or whatever. But there’s no victim here! And so the imbalance is just completely out of whack. And it’s clear to me that<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[18:00]</strong> they’re making examples out of these women to make sure that people are scared away from not only looking at this stuff, but basically they should be afraid of thinking for themselves. That’s ultimately what this is about I feel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’ve picked off on this issue because, of course, it’s very important to them for people to be guilt-ridden, and basically have this new theology of guilt and victimhood. And this is the choice, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Absolutely! Now there’s so many facets to this “<em>Holocaust</em>” lie. And right now I think it’s important that I focus all my work now on trying to articulate the big picture. I know Monika, when she was here, we came to the same conclusions. That once you understand the big picture, that the components of this big picture are much easier to understand. And they all make sense! It all falls into place!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s a little bit like if you’re standing really close to a huge picture, like a billboard, and you can only just see the big pixels, or something that</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[19:00]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">are this big and you cannot make any sense out of each of these pixels. But when you stand back and see the whole picture, it all makes sense. And this “<em>Holocaust</em>” thing, you know, some people think it’s just a scam for money. No, no, that’s just gravy that they sort of managed to harvest at this point in time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But the real, or original purpose of the “<em>Holocaust</em>” was to divert attention away from the massive genocides that took place behind what was, what we used to call the Iron Curtain, under the name of communism. Now for us growing up in the West back then and when that Iron Curtain was still in place. What was behind the Iron Curtain separated us, we were the good people and the democrats, from the evil people. And those were the communists!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now that’s the way that situation was interpreted for us. And it’s only now, in recent times, actually, quite recently for myself and like my sister Monika, and many other people, that we are beginning to</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[20:01]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">understand that both sides of this Iron Curtain were run by Talmudic jews, right from the start.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And as so if we want to understand the jewish problem, we have to actually go back, you know, for today’s world, basically to the French Revolution. But the jewish problem actually goes back thousands and thousands of years. And these people have honed their skills in manipulating people, having them at each other’s throats, that they start killing each other off. And the jew is there, controlling both sides, cleaning up and then penetrating ever deeper into the fabric of these peoples that have been at each other’s throats. And that’s what we see now.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Under communism there were genocides on the other side that killed tens of millions, possibly over a hundred million people, of the best people. And most of these were our brothers and sisters, our European kinfolk! They were just like us!</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[21:01]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">And they were butchered, massacred most brutally and — what better way to divert attention away from that, than this crazy “<em>Holocaust</em>” story? Plus, they had to have a way to justify — what they called the Allies, our European people that they manipulated — to bomb the hell out of the heart of Europe, which was Germany. To make sure that they could understand why they did it when they saw the mayhem, by vilifying those people that now lay traumatized and genocided and on the ground.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Just start making making up fantastic crimes and they are too traumatized to be able to defend themselves. And that’s, in a nutshell, what this “<em>Holocaust</em>”, the purpose that it has been.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now it’s used to keep us — to destroy our ability to defend ourselves, plus it gives the jew a shield behind which he can perpetrate and commit any crime he wants to. And that’s where we find ourselves.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[22:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Now there might be people watching, listening, that don’t kind of know the arguments that you’ve made. They don’t, or agree, or whatever. I’m sure there’s some that are as well. But what I want them to understand is basically, I want them to put it into context, into other events, other similar, as you say, genocides throughout history.</p>
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<p>I believe that there’s no other genocide that has occurred that you could be prosecuted for claiming that it didn’t happen. This is, it’s a very unique case, if you will, historically speaking. About what you’re allowed and not allowed to do. And as we know, as I’ve said many times, it’s, of course, worse in Germany, but I just I don’t understand why many of the free speech activists are not coming out in support of people like <strong>Monika</strong>, and <strong>Sylvia</strong>, and <strong>Haverbeck</strong>, and all these other women, and men too, for that matter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s many men as we know, <strong>Ernst Zündel</strong> passed away not too long ago, of course, he was a big hero, also a Canadian<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[23:01]</strong> </span>citizen. He was, I believe, he was also extradited to Germany and was put in prison there. So this Canada-German relationship is kind of historically there as well in this case. But there should be much more uproar about this. I mean, what about Monika’s civil rights? What about her abusers? What about her her right to think differently? And I mean, and that’s what I want people primarily to focus on. And if they disagree with you Alfred on the historical issue, put that to the side for now, and just think of the case itself, and what it represents.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because as you say, this is a witch trial! It is that these people have been demeaned and dehumanized, right? And wasn’t that a crime that they’ve said the Nazis did? They dehumanized people and all that kind of stuff? So in a way they’re doing exactly the same thing in depriving people’s right and freedom, because they think differently. And this should be a free speech issue. And why isn’t it? Why is it that no one dares to <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[24:01]</strong> </span>touch this, or what is it, do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">I’ll tell you why people are not speaking up. It’s, because this indoctrination that we have all been victims of, has the same effect on our ability to think as does a lobotomy. Now a lobotomy is when they used to separate the two halves of your brain physically. And they would make out of what they would call violent criminals in the prison system, or something, they’d make them into docile zombies. Because they’d separate the two brain halves.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now this psychological warfare that we have all become victims of to some degree, or the other, has the same effect on us as does this lobotomy. It compartmentalizes your thinking, so that you are not able to think anymore and you have been conditioned to behave like a dog, like Pavlov’s dog.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, that’s where this whole psychological science basically comes from. They wanted to know how we can condition people to behave, to obey in lockstep altogether. And these people are experts at <strong>[25:00]</strong> that. And that’s what they’ve done! We have been conditioned. Actually, our fellow human beings have been conditioned to have an allergic reaction, an aggressive, allergic reaction against those people who reveal the truth. Because as soon as you talk about the facts, the evidence that this “<em>Holocaust</em>” is all bunk, then you are immediately labeled as a “<em>Nazi</em>”, or a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And we have been taught, through conditioning, that these things are “<em>evil</em>”! So people have been reduced really to, like little children that you can tell them there’s a some kind of a monster, or something, or don’t look under your bed, there’s a golem, or something there. They have reduced us to a very, very low state.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">At the same time, they are telling us about tolerance, and if you want to be a little girl and you’re actually a boy, you can do that and nobody can tell you otherwise. So they’re getting the people confused, full</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[26:02]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">of fear, confused, and reduced to the most basic animalistic level. And they say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well, if they’re throwing old women in jail for years and years for “</em><em>Holocaust</em>” denial, then obviously, they must be really bad!”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like, this is how simple their thinking is.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> But now, as they see the reality of our world in free fall, in collapse, imploding, there’s more and more people that are beginning to understand that life does actually consist of much more than “<em>fun and games</em>”. And these fun and games that we have been indulging in, were the distraction to keep us away from seeing what has been going on behind the scenes.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now taking us into these times right now. Look at 9/11! They don’t even talk about 9/11 at all anymore! In any way, good, or bad, or anything! Because they know that everybody’s figured that one out. So they figure, if we just don’t talk about it at all, it’ll disappear out of our memory</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[27:01]</strong></span>. <span style="color:#0000ff;">Because if it’s not covered on TV and radio, or in the magazines, people won’t see it. And they just think it’s not important, because it’s not talked about.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But they do talk about all the time about:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh how wonderful when these black men can mate with the White women!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And all the advertising is reflecting that. So yeah, we have to wake up to the biological aspect of the situation in which we find ourselves. And that is basically, in a nutshell, the jew has declared war on the White race! And we are now at five minutes before 12!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We have to wake up! Understand what’s happening, and come into the healing mode.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And when I see what’s going on in the world today, we are now in that initial phase of the healing. And no organism can heal, until it understands that it’s under attack, identifies the problem and</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[28:01]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">only then can it kick into gear and do something about it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s why I am optimistic. And I see that, what they’ve done to Monika, they served us that on a silver platter! And I can only say, “<em>thanks jews!</em>” You did a fine job! If the doctor had to prescribe something for us that would have been perfect for helping our cause, then this would have been it! We would have had to pay millions of dollars in advertising to get this kind of exposure to this problem. And they’ve given it to us at the trial of <strong>Silvia Stolz</strong>, and I want to say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Thanks jews! You did a good job!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> I wonder what, normal, so to speak, “<em>normies</em>” think about the case if and when they hear about it. And, as we can see obviously in some of the headlines, she’s already a convicted “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier. Although there hasn’t been a trial, the issue hasn’t been, you know, stated. It hasn’t been sorted out. What does she actually believe historically? It is <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[29:00]</strong> </span>like this, literally like she has some kind of, you know, virus, or parasite! That she’s become smitten with this thing, which they need to keep it at a distance, kind of thing!</p>
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<p>And that’s how they treat people these days. Just as you said, despite the preachment of the times is really, you know, accept those who think differently and you shouldn’t be afraid of the things you don’t understand, and all this kind of stuff. And I’m just so sick and fed up with the hypocrisy of what they’re trying to push in our faces! To get us to accept the kind of things that we don’t like! Of course, we have to be tolerant, we have to, &#8230; But they don’t have to be tolerant at all! See, they don’t have to back down and say:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Okay, it’s fine. She’s not hurting anyone. Let her believe what she wants to.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Right? No! Instead they want to make a case out of her! They want to jail her and stuff.</p>
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<p>But what do you think is gonna happen next? I know this is very difficult for you to predict, if you will, or kind of project, but you have<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[30:00]</strong></span> been raided. There’s been people coming into your home. Tell us a little bit about that, and if there’s been any information shared with you at that point, about what actually is going on, and what they’re seeking to do.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> They are in a panic, because they see their work, they’ve worked like, how many long, 2,000 years, or something, for world domination? They feel they’re so close to it, they can finally, it’s within a reach. But the closer they get, the closer they have this, the more insane they go!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s what we’re witnessing now. And there is no stopping the truth anymore! And you’re just talking about before, you know, there’s a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier. People have to understand that anybody who still believes in this utter bullshit nonsense, will not be taken seriously. And in only a very, very short time from now, not one person in our civilization will admit that they ever believed this “<em>Holocaust</em>” nonsense!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And yet, like I was in Canada in the summer on a speaking tour, and I just saw the hysteria! Everything seems to revolve around if someone’s a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier, or not, or</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[31:00]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">if there are a White supremacist, or a racist. And that’s all that counts! Nothing else seems to matter.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">You know, people are living in a fantasy world that is a bubble, that’s going to burst! And they have to start to understand the reality of what’s going on around them, because that’s all we’ve got! Now, if we have hordes and absolute hordes of Third World criminals out of the prison systems, of the Third World, coming into our countries, we have to deal with them when everything breaks down. And that’s coming.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the jew World Order that they’re trying to impose on us is this ridiculous “<em>Holocaust</em>” religion, and you’re supposed to go down on your knees and pray to that every day. And at the same time you are going to be disenfranchised. You are going to be running in your little hamster wheel. And then you’re so exhausted at the end of the day, you lay down, sit in front of the TV, eat poisonous food, drink poisonous water, and then get back in your hamster wheel, and the jew World Order’s controlling everything.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s what the whole thing is with</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[32:00]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">the EU and everything. They try to make more and more laws that are making it ever more difficult for the small, you know, the bakeries, the small shop owners, the small farmers, to make it to make it so they cannot operate anymore, because they got a million rules! Always more rules making it ever more difficult for them to operate, so that eventually everything is just huge, great big, collectivized, you know, food productions, factories. And everybody will find their place somewhere as an insignificant little little grain of sand in this huge apparatus. And as soon as you step out of line, you will simply be shut off! You say the wrong word, they’ll just shut off your digital code and that’s it, you can die.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now the jews actually think they can replace us, who created the civilization, and have these lower IQ people flooding in. Get rid of us, so they’re not threatened anymore. And it’s just a complete total insanity. If we don’t deal with it, then we will actually find ourselves exterminated!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[33:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But, I always say the Europeans have always excelled best when they have been forced to survive, because of harsh conditions. And when this breaks down, we will find ourselves in extremely harsh conditions that today would seem unimaginable, but that will be the test of fire. We survive, or we die! We swim, or we sink! And that’s what we’re facing. And I believe that when these times come, that’s when we will find our true purpose and meaning in life and we will deal with the parasites and the invaders.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Interesting. I want to return to that a little bit later, maybe in the second part of the show., but let let’s deal with this issue here. This article, The Times of Israel, states the following:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Authorities say Monika Schaefer is suspected of spreading hate material on the Internet.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Right? And in the beginning I played the video and, of course, I saw, Alfred. It’s on your<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[34:01]</strong> </span>channel. I’m surprised it hasn’t been taken down, but it has obviously been put in a limited state so people can’t see, or quarantine, as they call it, right? There’s no comments, you can’t see how many views there are, and all this kind of stuff. Has Monika actually, I mean, is this the only video they’re referring to? Or does she have a website herself and released other material, or is it just this video, do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> This video is the one that really rattled their cage. And I’m glad they are sort of focusing on this video, because it is the best shortest piece of material that undoes so much of their psychological warfare, that we have been victimized with. You have to understand the psychological warfare, how it’s a very incremental process and it’s a trans-generational incremental process.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I’ll go a little bit off-topic here, just to illustrate what I’m talking about.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Now if you took any one of our grandparents, or<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[35:01]</strong> </span>great-grandparents, and if they have to see how their ten-year-old boys are being taught in school. That they can cut off their penis and become a girl, they can be anything they want, our great-grandparents would have gone to that school with their pitchforks, or something! Would have speared that teacher, dragged him outside, strung them up in a tree! And no other teacher would ever dare to do that again! , because they still had healthy morals. And nobody with healthy morals would tolerate ten-year-olds, the most vulnerable of our people, the children being taught anal sex in school, and they can be any gender they want.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s what they have brought us down to! Now the only reason that the parents are not doing that now is, because these parents have been completely demoralized. And their parents were already partially demoralized. So it goes little step by step, incrementally. And Monika’s videos, “<em>Sorry Mom I was wrong about the Holocaust</em>” basically reverse engineers this<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[36:01]</strong> </span>psychological warfare. Because she confesses that she actually reproached our mother for not doing something against those “<em>evil Nazis</em>”! And my mom says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well, we couldn’t! We never heard anything about that! We just didn’t know. We never saw that.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So here we have, our mom was honest, Monika was honest, and this was the heartfelt apology to her spirit, since she was already deceased. Our mother was deceased. Now the jews have gotten a little bit too greedy. If they would have done this all over a longer period of time, maybe they would have gotten away with it., but they just got too greedy! And that’s what the jews always do.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like now, I mean, look at what they’re doing now. They’re going crazy with the censorship! , but every time I see censorship happen, it always seems to come back, those indestructible weeds of historical truth come up stronger and more robust than ever before! And that’s what I say is going to happen now. YouTube wants to go into censorship? Well YouTube’s assigning it’s own death warrant! YouTube is just gonna go out of <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[37:00]</strong> </span>business. Who’ll go to YouTube, who’ll go to Facebook if they’re gonna start playing nonsense like that?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We’re not stupid! Don’t take us for fools! The “<em>Holocaust</em>” is over! If I was a jew, I’d be coming out with a White flag, right today. I wouldn’t waste another day. And if I was a jew, I’d help to get Monika out of prison., because if you jews are going to stonewall and pretend you don’t know, or, you know, a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier is evil, you guys are signing your very own death warrant! The noose is around your neck. And every every day of resistance, going forwards the noose tightening around your neck! So just get over it. Come out with your White flag.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Now, I think you told us earlier that you were the one who was talking with Monika, showing her a different side of the story, and kind of awakening her to, you know, to some of the stuff that she talked about. Have you, and it’s more of a personal question, but do you regret doing that, considering the situation she’s in?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Oh no! No!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> And I don’t mean that in a bad way. I’m just saying, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah, I understand completely. I’ll tell you, when people, at the beginning, they would say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Monika! How could you let these bad people influence you like that!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Monika would say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>No, no! Nobody ‘influenced’ me.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I was waking up, and it started about 10 years after <strong>9/11</strong>, I started waking up to what actually happened on 9/11. And I sent these this information to all my family members. And Monika was the only one who always came up with the right question. She’ll say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh! Where did you get that? How do you know? Prove it! Like how do you know? Where’d you get that?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the other ones would kind of like, do like most zombies do, they kind of click it away. They just delete it, or something. They don’t want to look there. I mean, you know, when people delete that and put it away, it reminds me of a small child that covers it’s eyes and says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Now you can’t see me!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">They’re fooling themselves! We are all, we all have to confront the reality and truth! And Monika always came with the <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[39:00]</strong> </span>right question. She was basically getting up to speed parallel with me, and she’s helped me with stuff, I’ve helped her with stuff. I might have, you know, kick-started her with the 9/11 stuff at the beginning, but she did not resist and she came right up to speed. And we’ve been a team, we’ve been partners in this struggle ever since.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Hmm. Yeah, that’s good. And, of course, as one of the other articles, I think was from “<em>Vice</em>”, of course, they detailed that she was a former Green Party member. She had, I guess she had a lot of people on the Left. And she might have even come from a leftist perspective herself. In the beginning, kind of initially. So I can imagine how difficult it must have been for her when it started, when she started losing her classes <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[violin]</strong> </span>and things like that in the school in Jasper, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And all the people, did they come after her, or did they just kind of drop her as a hot potato? How were her relationships at that point when it started coming out?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Okay. You started saying about she was a <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[40:00]</strong> </span>leftist. You know, I, we were all leftists! I was a leftist. Most people were leftist. We were basically indoctrinated that way, and that’s perfectly natural. There’s nothing wrong with that., but it’s just now when we see the reality that we understand, you know, that this leftist stuff is bad news for us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And Monika’s ritual defamation which she had to endure in Jasper was, it was vile! I mean, she used to play music once a week, or something like that in the Jasper Legion, it’s called. And there was a guy there <strong>Ken Kominski</strong> is his name, but he’s all over the internet now, in a very bad way. He just did everything to get her thrown out of there.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But you see, Monika had been a <strong>Green Party</strong> member. She and run for the Green Party in Canada, but had quit that party already a year before making that video, because it was her disgust at the fact that the Party would not deal with the issue of 9/11, and a few other things. So she <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[41:01]</strong> </span>was disillusioned by the hypocrisy of that Party. And, of course, now in hindsight we can see that Green Party, that’s one of the very worst. Here in Germany the Greens are the absolute worst!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah, yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> I used to vote for those people. And that’s how blindsided I was! How hoodwinked I was! These are the very worst of the worst., but people in Jasper, they liked the way she dealt with their ritual defamation, since she wasn’t allowed to busk officially and in the streets. Which is, you know, putting your hat down there and playing music and so forth. She just went out with her fiddle and played, just for free, kind of thing. And people loved it! So she had a lot of people who were very happy with what she was doing. And even people that didn’t understand the six million lie, and were believers of that sick religion., but even they would still come to her and say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>I might not agree with you what you’re saying, but I don’t think what they’re doing to you is right!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So they see the injustice of what’s <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[42:01] </strong></span>actually happening to her. And I’ve always told Monika that each and every one of those people that are now making your life difficult, are in the future, at some point in time, when you go down the street they will run and hide, or they will come and ask you for forgiveness, for their despicable, disgraceful behavior!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s something that we all have to understand. That us being attacked, I would much rather go to prison, Same with Monika. I mean, that’s why I’m not worried about her. She’s a very strong person and she’ll she knows the role she’s playing. And myself too. If I go to prison, so what? I’ll go to jail! And is going so fast now, that I won’t be in jail for very long before the mob will get me out of jail, or they’ll kill me.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But this lie is over! It truly is! No self-respecting European person can crawl on his knees with this utter nonsense of 6 million dead jews, shrunken heads, soap and lampshades! It is so bizarre!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’m looking into in turn to how <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[43:02]</strong> </span>they play this game, you know, depending how much time we have., because with the fall of the Iron Curtain, like Auschwitz, we are always told Auschwitz, Auschwitz! The people living in Auschwitz had never heard of anything about a “<em>Holocaust</em>” until after the Iron Curtain came down and then they had a problem!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Let’s get into that in the second segment, Alfred.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Sure.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> We’re going to take a little break in a little bit, so I think this is a good time should promote the website before we’re going to that. I want to hear more about that., but obviously one of the ones that were set up was “<em>wir sind Monika</em>” <strong>[wir-sind-monika.com]</strong> “<em>We are Monika</em>”. Tell us about that site and is there any way people can support her now? What can people do that are concerned with this and her future?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> I recommend everybody become familiar with the site “<strong><em>wir sind Monika</em></strong>”, or “<span style="color:#008000;"><em>We are Monika</em></span>”. That should get you there also. And this is sort of a go — to place to see what’s happening with Monika. All the latest updates. Plus we have a lot of links to other websites that have a massive amount of good information about the true history of what we call World War One, and World War Two.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[44:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s all in there. That’s the go — to place to find out what’s happening with Monika. And that is actually what had got them so upset, and that is the reason why they sent a team of ten heavily armed thugs into my home to steal everything they could find just yesterday morning.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> What happened with that? Tell us more about that. I mean, they just, what, did they just the break open the door? Did you open it? What happened?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> No this is interesting, because it’s always the same sort of woman with her team of thugs there. She comes from <strong>Fürstenfeldbruck</strong>, which isn’t that far. And this time in the summer, last summer of 2017, they came and they basically stormed in here at 6:00 in the morning like, you know, just about broke down the doorbell! And then they stormed in.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But this time they rang at seven o’clock and were very polite. The whole team of them. They surrounded the house first and then they came in. The whole house was full of these people, like ten of them at least, I couldn’t even count them all. And they didn’t take as long as the last time. It only took about, just over an hour. And they stole everything they could find, but I was <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[45:00]</strong></span> preemptively cautious. That’s why I’m talking to you now, I’ve still got my equipment.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I told them the whole time saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>You need to understand, lists are being compiled of all those people who are now being helpers of the system. And you will all find yourself having to explain your behavior when this lie goes over. And it’s just coming down now. It’s in free fall, and this is theft. And this is treason, what you are doing!</em>”</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>And what do you do when you go home at night? What do you tell your kids what you did? You chased a “</em><em>Holocaust</em>”<em> denier and stole all his equipment? I mean, that’s gonna be an embarrassing thing to explain, because your children are all going to know that this was all a lie. And nobody’s going to admit that they ever believed that stuff!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But that’s another thing. They don’t even talk about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” in these charges anymore. They actually charge us now, that we are “<em>undermining the trust that people have in our legal system</em>”! Now try to digest that one.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Is that what they told you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[46:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">That’s what’s written on the papers. That’s what’s written on the justifications for stealing all of our equipment, is that we are “<em>undermining that people’s trust in the legal system</em>”! Now if that isn’t an inversion of reality, I don’t know what is! And that’s what they do with everything. The “<em>Holocaust</em>”, and everything else that they’re feeding us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">You have to understand this process of “<em>inverting and projecting</em>”. They invert their own behavior, put it on the victim and they project that out there. And they just propagandize that message into our brains. And if we’re dumb enough to believe it, you know, we deserve to get exterminated! , but we are waking up, because we are not really that dumb!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Alright. Let’s take a little break here then., but yeah, I want to send pple over to “<em>wir sind Monika</em>”. We’ll have a link down the description for that. There is, of course, tell us about your personal sites, as well Alfred.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[46:58]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> I don’t have any personal sites. I have my videos. I made them all, I basically finished my video career. Now I’m doing a lot of writing and doing talk shows like this one right now., because that is right now, the most effective way that we could the message out there. If I had invested in new equipment after they stole all of my equipment, my cameras, everything! They took everything you could find! Thousands of euros worth! If I had reinvested, it would all be gone now again. That’s why I don’t bother.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I just have learned to operate mobile. I can work here, I can work there. All that I need is a little laptop with an internet connection. That’s all I need now, and that’s all I’m going to be working with in the future.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Okay. Yeah, you have the YouTube channel. We will link to that, of course. People can check out your older videos. A lot of good videos there, a lot of material on, you know, bigger picture, like 9/11, and how the entrainment, how the mind control process works. And stuff like that. Very interesting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you, just the last point before we take a break here. Would you want to, if you could, leave Germany and go back to Canada? Are you happy where you are, at the moment?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[48:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">I couldn’t go to Canada! Canada! They are such zombies these people! There are more indoctrinated to be zombies than in Germany. I mean, Germany is pretty bad, but Canada’s even worse! I mean, they are completely brain-dead there! I hate to say it, but I would cry if I have to look at that every single day.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now there’s good people, don’t get me wrong, but the general population is completely and totally, they’ve had their brains rotted out! And that’s a very alarming condition to be in, because they will not survive the coming reality. That is what I’m most concerned about, what used to be my home country. No. I want to stay in Germany right here, even if I go to jail, I’ll still stay here.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yep, I understand that. Alright folks let’s just take a short break here. We’ll be back more with Alfred Schaefer. All the links down below. Stay tuned everyone, we’ll be right back.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[49:00]</strong><br />
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<p>Thank you for watching, or listing guys. We’re doing a second part with Alfred Schaefer at Red Ice members dot com, right now. Yes really! A second members exclusive hour. It’s been a long time since we did that last. This is kind of the reboot, the reboot premiere of the members hour for our interview shows. This is, of course, something that we’ve started up now again. Since the “<em>hack</em>” we’ve not done a second hour. So this is great getting back into this doing these once more.</p>
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<p>So do make sure that you join us. An intense second part with Alfred, as he holds no bars, as to how he sees the situation with Europe, his sister, censorship, and silencing of Europeans world wide.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[50:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Now the second segment is also where we speak about some of the things that we sometimes consciously, at this point, pulled off from speaking about, you know, in the first segment, because of the situation with YouTube censorship and, you know, our podcast goes up on other platforms, too. So I explain a bit more about this in the beginning of <strong>Part II</strong>, for members.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[51:00]</strong><br />
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<p>And what’s more troubling and difficult is that despite the fact that we do not condone, you know, the promotion of violence, and such things. We, you know, these deluded people who want to silence people with different views are claiming that when we speak about our views, about how we see the world, then that is violence and hate! , but it’s not! This is lies! They can’t handle that we are a growing channel, a growing community. People are tuning in, people are liking our content, that’s the problem, right?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[52:01]</strong><br />
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[53:00]</strong><br />
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; [In this interview Andrew Hitchcock talks with Canadian-German Alfred Schaefer again, this time about the sudden arrest of his sister, Monika, in Germany, for the &#8220;crime&#8221; of making a 5 minute YouTube video entitled, &#8220;Sorry Mom, I was &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/01/14/andrew-hitchcock-with-alfred-schaefer-how-you-can-help-monika-schaefer-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[In this interview <strong>Andrew Hitchcock</strong> talks with Canadian-German <strong>Alfred</strong> <strong>Schaefer</strong> again, this time about the sudden arrest of his sister, Monika, in Germany, for the &#8220;<em>crime</em>&#8221; of making a 5 minute YouTube video entitled, &#8220;<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>&#8220;. Alfred makes an impassioned plea for people to support Monika and to spread the word about this ongoing  tyranny being brought about by organized jewry and their shabbos goy minions — KATANA.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">In today’s show originally broadcast on January 11 2018, EuroFolkRadio’s Andrew Carrington Hitchcock interviews Alfred Schaefer, for a show entitled, “<strong><em>How YOU Can Help Monika Schaefer!</em></strong>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">We discussed:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— the circumstances surrounding Monika’s arrest at the Sylvia Stolz trial last week on January 3rd; how when Monika protested that she was a free Canadian citizen the state prosecutor said:</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">— Monika’s experiences in Germany prior to her arrest; how Alfred has received absolutely no information from the German authorities regarding Monika’s condition, and has been unable to see or speak to her;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— how the German (((media))) are celebrating the abduction and persecution of Monika;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— how we can turn the abduction and persecution of Monika to our advantage;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— how Monika will be coping in prison; examples of the Jewish persecution of the White race;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— how Alfred is thrilled with the support Monika has been getting from around the world since her abduction and persecution;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— how there is no point raising the issue of Monika’s abduction and persecution with any political parties as they are all controlled by the same group;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— what <strong>YOU</strong> can do to help Monika;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— how <strong>YOU</strong> can contact Monika;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— Monika’s YouTube video, “<em><strong>Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About The Holocaust,</strong></em>” which I played in its’ entirety on the show;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— how this YouTube video undid the hundreds of millions of dollars the Jews have spent over the years in indoctrinating the White race with their lies;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— how Adolf Hitler was incarcerated at the same prison as Monika in 1922;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">— and many other topics.</p>
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<span style="color:#ff0000;"> Stadelheim Prison</span><br />
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<p style="text-align:center;"><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOmzT8tQ6E" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Click Here For Monika’s 5 Minute YouTube, “Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About The Holocaust,” Which Is The Reason For Her Being Held in Solitary Confinement In Stadelheim Prison</a></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stadelheim-Prison/138929049465376" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Click Here For Stadelheim Prison’s Facebook Page</a></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong><a href="https://wir-sind-monika.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Click Here For The New, “We Are Monika,” Website</a></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong><a href="https://freespeechmonika.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Click Here For Monika’s Website</a></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/Allwesable" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Click Here For Alfred’s YouTube</a></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong><a href="http://andrewcarringtonhitchcock.com/the-andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-the-2018-shows/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Click Here For The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show Archive Where You Can Listen To Or Download All My Shows</a></strong></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Hello everybody. Today’s show was booked to record, and it was booked to record with my good friends, Alfred and Monika Schaefer. Now unfortunately Monika can’t be with us, because she has been jailed in Germany, for producing the video, which was an apology to a mother, entitled, “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong about the Holocaust</em>”. So I just have Alfred with me today. Now, I’m recording this January the tenth, and I’m actually broadcasting the very last show I recorded with Alfred and Monika, tomorrow, January eleventh. Now that might change and I might end up broadcasting this show tomorrow, and delaying that one, depending on how it goes. I’ve had a discussion with Alfred before hand. We’re going to see.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Yes Andy, and thanks for calling me up and I’m glad this is taking place now.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Absolutely! Well either way, I mean, if we decide to put this out in a couple of weeks like we have been doing, then I can always release this. I’ll think of a way that I can release this early anyway, so, &#8230; Yeah, I’m all up in the air with this folks, because we don’t know where it’s going to go., but I think the best thing to do now is to hand over to you Alfred, and can you explain exactly what happened, from where Monika was staying with you for Christmas, and just after, and now is suddenly in jail in Munich.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Yes, okay. It’s been precisely one week ago, that’s on the third of January, that Monika was arrested, as a quiet observer watching the bizarre <em>Inquisition</em> hearings against Sylvia Stolz in Munich. And that was done, &#8230; First of all, to get into the courthouse we had to pass all kinds of security clearances. And we went in there and watched the proceedings, and then within about forty minutes into the proceedings, the snake of a state prosecutor ordered an unplanned break, and said:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So we say, “<em>Oh well, let’s go out and stretch our legs a little bit, in the hallway.</em>” So we step out into the hallway, and there was another snake of a state prosecutor, came up with three heavily armed thugs and they say:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">In German, of course, and she says “<em>yes</em>” and she <strong>[state prosecutor]</strong> says:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And they took her off to the side a bit, and slapped handcuffs on her. And when she protested:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Wait! You can’t do that! I didn’t do anything wrong! I’m from Canada. I’m a free citizen!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that was how the arrest proceeded. And then after going back into the court room, Sylvia Stolz’s lawyer came to me and he whispered in my ear, and he says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Alfred, you had better get out of this room here, because we don’t know what they’re going to do to you.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so I just got my jacket and left the courtroom. Waited outside, it was raining pretty miserably and then Henry Hoffenmyer came out after a while, and we just waited, basically in this car, until the proceedings ended. And then we could communicate with Sylvia Stolz and her lawyer, and a few other people.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So it was really a bizarre scene, like in the Middle Ages! I cannot believe this is happening in our so-called civilized world and even just listening to the proceedings against Sylvia Stolz, they basically take paragraphs and phrase them and package them in a way that you just cannot win! It is the same as if they stuffed you in a sack, threw you out in the water and if you sank then you were innocent, but you were dead. If you stay afloat, you are guilty and can be now tortured to death!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">There is no winning with the framing of the paragraphs and wording that they use against us. And that basically brings us to the point where we have to define these things for what they are. This is inquisition. They are saying there is hate speech, there is political correctness, there is, anytime you go anywhere near the evidence of the truth, it is defined as hate and incitement. So it’s a bizarre situation that we have to extricate ourselves from, if we are to survive on this planet! , because this will continue to go down and the screws will be tightened.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And and this has to be dealt with, and if we can get a critical mass of people understanding that rapidly, which now, of course, what’s happening is faster and faster, then we can do it relatively peacefully. If we don’t succeed in getting the zombies detoxified from these lies and these are the terminology that has robbed them of the ability to even think, and destroy their ability to defend themselves. If we fail and this will continue to go downhill, until we have just wretched, horrible, genocidal, bloodbath in all of our Western countries!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Because we have to not only stop the deteriorating conditions as we see them on our streets, but we have to reverse them! We have to repatriate so many of the people that are thinking that they are entitled to something, and at the same time we have to get our people to understand this is these are our lands! Our territory! Our civilization! And these people that are coming in are participating in a free lunch! A feeding frenzy! Much the same as we had observed in the past after the same thing was done to the heart of the European people, which was a Germany, in what we call World War One and World War Two.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And when we see all this in the context of this being one huge World War against humanity, starting with the Europeans, against the Europeans by the jew, then it all starts making sense. In fact, everything makes sense if you understand the big picture! And so many of these components like, World Wars, “<em>Holocaust</em>”, or the fake moon landing, communism, democracy, Iron Curtain, &#8230; All of these things make sense when we see it in the context of the jew reaching for world domination!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But going back to your original question, and how these things happened from when Monika came here and visited me. First of all, I was thrilled that Monika was not afraid to come here into the heart of “<em>Holocaust</em>” country, despite knowing that, I’m in the crosshairs., but she says, “<em>I’m coming. I didn’t do anything wrong!</em>” And they could have arrested her coming in, I suppose. They could have arrested her while she was here, and we sure certainly didn’t hold back and make it a secret. And there was a fellow from France, a comrade from France, who was just desperate to come together with like-minded people, who understand what’s going on. And he was in contact with Monika and Monika says:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so he came just after Christmas and he was such good company, and we had such a good time just exchanging ideas and making music. He plays excellent accordion, had a super nice accordion that he brought along. So we had more than a week basically, of culture, homemade music, you know, sitting outside around the fire and just enjoying ourselves. Just a really, really culturally rich time. So this period with him really helped Monika tank up her batteries, top them completely up! We were all in a spirit of elation and everything was just one hundred percent fine. And then this! We go to see this court case with Silvia Stolz, and this surprise kidnapping of Monika took place.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So her batteries could not have possibly been better prepared for what she is now having to deal with, than that which happened before, like this whole week of music, and culture, fine company. So that’s it. And she understands full well the role that she’s playing now.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So if it was their intention to snuff Monika’s message out, it has done precisely the opposite! It has brought two brilliant flames of light, Sylvia Stolz and Monika Schaefer together, to make an even brighter light! Even <strong>[with]</strong> Sylvia Stolz, they’re trying to delete her out of our consciousness. Well now, it has put her back on center stage as well! So, they really done an “<em>own goal</em>” with this one, and we have to take advantage of that, and just shoot out of every barrel of a gun that we have, to get this message out there! And it is working! More and more people coming on board with us, who are helping us to propel this message out there, on every channel and platform we can. And writing letters, doing this, and that, just making it ever more difficult for them to continue to remain on the course that they are, which is trying to snuff out the truth and make us even stupider than they’ve already made us!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Absolutely! And now, what I’d like to know, because the news I’ve got is that Monika is actually being held in maximum security prison in Munich. And she’s in solitary confinement. So, what I’d like to know is, what information have you been given from the authorities, since they have basically said to her:</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Absolutely nothing! They just completely, &#8230; It’s like she’s been plucked off the earth by an alien spaceship! We have gotten absolutely nothing! It was just through a lot of effort that Silva Stolz’s lawyer which, you know, because this has happened at her trial, at her Inquisition, immediately took responsibility for what he could, and was able to see her in the detention cell. In fact, that would have been probably precisely to the minute almost like one week ago now.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And he said her condition was, she was laying on this wooden bench there, you know, put her glasses off on the table, that was there, and just waiting there. That’s all she could do. And was she was in good spirits., but that was right after this whole thing happened, and since then we have been unable to make any contact with her. The courts require us to request a visiting permit, or a speaking permit through the court system. So we’ve written the letters to do that. We’re doing everything we can and it’s almost like somebody gets kidnapped. How do you contact the kidnappers and how can you look and talk to the person who’s kidnapped? Monika is a prisoner of war!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And this is how we’re dealing with it. So we’re doing everything we possibly can to get her out of this total insane imprisonment before her batteries run out. I mean, she tanked up with all this music and everything else, and now they’re going to try to isolate her and make her think that nobody cares about her. We don’t know if she’s completely isolated. We just assume, since we cannot in any way, shape, or form, contact her. Yeah, she’s like gone from the planet basically, for us, at this point. We’re trying to get through to her. Maybe we’ll have a breakthrough, maybe even tomorrow, I don’t know., but right now, it’s all speculative. I cannot make any statements on that.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Yes, and the other thing I wanted to ask was, of course, there are all these persecutions going on, as you mentioned. <strong>Sylvia Stolz</strong>, then in the UK we’ve got <strong>Alison Chabloz</strong>, who actually did some music with Monika in Canada, so they’re friends. To there’s <strong>Jez Turner</strong> in the UK as well. They seem to be coming after as many people as possible., but the way they think that they’re going to get away with it now Alfred, is that they own all the media, or they own 96 % of it. And this is another point where we’ve got these “<em>Holocaust</em>” laws. <strong>Ernst Zundel</strong> was asked to put his hand on the Bible and promise to tell the whole truth to the court. And at the same time they said that “<em>truth was no defense</em>”!</p>
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<p>Well that’s exactly what they’re doing with the international definition of “<em>anti-semitism</em>”. They’re bolting in, along with the “<em>Holocaust</em>” laws, things like any accusation that the jews have inordinate control over the banking, or media system, means you’re guilty of anti-semitism, and all this sort of stuff. So this is the way that they think they are going to do it. And going back to the media, which is basically the basis of my question, has there been any mainstream media reports of Monika’s arrest in Germany, that you are aware of?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Yeah, well they actually had to admit now, and they’re celebrating the fact that a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier has been arrested! You see, so in the total zombified condition people are in, they jump up and cheer:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So, we’re getting a situation now where those people who are coming out of the matrix and understanding what is happening, which is easier and easier, because of the censorship is making it more difficult. On the other hand, though, there are an exploding number of excellent websites, that really clearly explains the whole picture, the “<em>big picture</em>”. And I found myself — and this is a conclusion that Monika and I have both come to — is that only recently have we really gotten the depth of understanding of the big picture that we have achieved so far. And the bigger the picture that you understand, the easier it is to understand all the components that this is composed of and as long as we are still in this zombie state of this totally compartmentalized way of thinking, where you cannot even go from one compartment to the next, because there’s these unsumountable walls in the way of “<em>labels</em>” such as “<em>anti-semitic</em>”, or “<em>racist</em>”, or “<em>White supremacist</em>”, or this guilt complex.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">As long as we have not overcome those, we are not in full capacity of our own minds. And are basically walking around like somebody who is trying to run a race with two broken legs. You cannot, you know, we’re not even able to think. And in this crippled condition, we have been fed, you know, just been kept comfortable and softened up. Comfortable in terms of, well you can eat all this junk food, you can watch all kinds of crap on television, and then getting softened up, and softened up. And in this condition, it’s almost impossible for many, many people. For many, many people it’s not possible to come out of that condition, because it’s just too overwhelming. And it’s almost like taking a little baby and making it, “<em>okay, now you have to go into battle</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So we have to take those people, our people, who have leadership qualities, they will be coming out by themselves. And that’s what’s happening now. This is the time in history where the people who are the leaders, the natural leaders, will be coming out by themselves. We can’t even really recruit them. We can give people, you know, ask people to do their homework, ask people to start to try to use their brains and figure things out, and they can do it. It’s up to them, they have to do it. We cannot spoon feed them, we don’t have time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And these leaders should all be rounding up more and more people, and helping them come out of this condition. So this really does become a mass movement. And this is what’s happened with Monika. They try to silence her, and it has had exactly the opposite effect! It is galvanizing people worldwide to our cause, because the hypocrisy of it is so glaring now, that it’s just blinding! It’s even visible for the zombies to figure out. So even a zombie says, “<em>Just a minute, something’s not right with this picture!</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And before, the zombies were always kind of held at bay, because, sure it was hypocritical with what was going on, but it didn’t seem to be a strong enough contrast for them to understand that. So now, we’re having a condition where those people are coming out, are completely polar opposite of the zombies. And, in fact, for people that understand the truth it becomes impossible to sit in the same space as the zombies. And when this goes through the entire society, this rift goes through families, through our entire society, with a small rock solid core of people who understand, that is growing by the day. Sort of like a, you know, these things in space that swallow everything up, like the black holes. We are accreting mass from the zombies at an every faster rate.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[18:21]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so we’re taking people away, others on the condition to this core of people who understand. And this is a process that will not go back! It’s irreversible! And that’s the panic that the jews now find themselves in. I think there’s a lot of jews that are starting to wish:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Shit! We shouldn’t have done all this! Why did we do this and that? I mean, it was running so nicely for a long time, and now comes the day of reckoning!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And this is so completely inevitable, there’s no escaping this! The jews will find themselves in the same predicament that they always have, and we find ourselves right now, in a similar mood and situation that we always experience just before they get tossed out! It’s like when you have to throw up, you know, you feel really sick and now you have to go, and you can’t hold it anymore. And then you throw up. And this moment of throwing up, is really unpleasant and you think you’re going to die, but you throw up, you get the parasite out of you, and then you can sort of clean yourself off and start life over again.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That’s what we as the White race are facing now. And I am absolutely confident that we’re going to do it even if not each and every one of us are going to survive this throwing up! , but we are right now initiating the healing phase which means we are articulating the picture, we’re spreading it, we’re driving it basically, almost like a catalyzer to get this thing going faster and faster! So we’re winning right now, even if it looks gloomy at the moment, however we are winning, because we are gaining ground with every single second.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Thank you Alfred. Now, one thing that obviously I’m worried about, and I know I speak for the listening audience as well, is Monika, you know, she’s not “<em>elderly elderly</em>” like <strong>Ursula Haverbeck</strong>, I believe she’s in a fifty’s, or sixty’s. She’s in maximum security, she’s in solitary confinement. And what can you tell us about Monika as a person, as to how she would be coping? And the other thing I want to ask you, is imprisonment ever been something that Monika discussed with you, as a possibility for her? What I’m really getting at, is a) you as her brother, how do you think that she will be coping in there? And also has this ever been something she’s considered may happen to her, which has helped her to potentially prepare for it?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[20:41]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">First of all, how she will be able to cope with it? One of the jobs she did in her younger years, was working in the <strong>[national]</strong> park, where she’d have a couple of horses, one to ride, one as a pack-horse, and go out in the back country to sort of patrol a fairly large area of outback <strong>Jasper National Park</strong>. And so she is used to being completely alone and responsible for everything she does. And she has gone through things where not many people would have the strength, and the courage, and the stamina to do what she had to do for her job, which she loved more than anything else.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So she knows she can be with herself, without breaking down, you know, where are my friends, or something. No. She is a fighter, she is a warrior. That is why she was also able to deal with the ritual defamation that she had to face after making that video and returning to her hometown. Now, very few people would have the stamina and backbone to do it like she did. So she survived this ordeal and she’ll survive whatever comes now. And we all consider that we can end up in solitary confinement for indefinite number of years, or whatever.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">However, understanding what we are involved in, also has us understanding that what we are fighting, transcends anything that, you know, you, or I as individuals, that transcends everything! All of us! , because we are this single chain in our lineage now, that has to get this right, because the thousands of generations that came before us did not fight the odds that they fought to ensure that we are here, for us to become complacent, fat, lazy, and stupid! And allow this kind of a “<em>mind manipulation</em>” to bring an end to this lineage! And if we fail, it would mean we have zero generations ahead. If we succeed we have thousands of generations ahead and these thousands of generations will celebrate those people who contributed something to ensure that they exist! That is our responsibility! That is our role! And we European peoples I just cannot envision, ever us failing in this mission!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When I think of what our forefathers built out of nothing, out of the Ice Age Europe, to what we have now, the culture, the music, the inventions. All of these things, the vast majority of what’s good on this earth, what we call civilization, comes from our people! And we are now finding ourselves crawling on our stomachs with some parasite whining about a “<em>Holocaust</em>”! I mean, this is beyond obscene! Beyond pathetic!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now we are tolerant and we are tolerating them teaching our young boys that they can be little girls! If our forefathers had seen that, any teacher that dared to do that, would be pulled out of that school, slapped, and if they did it again they’d have their head chopped off! Now that would be a healthy response to what’s going on!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But no, we are just crawling on our bellies, allowing them to do that! And there’s a reason for that. Once people understand why this is happening, why our little boys are being taught the little girls, it’s so that they will not do what any good warrior would do! And that is protect your people, your territory, your heritage, and your honor! And what they are doing with us is the most despicable, decrepit, most demeaning, most humiliating thing, that’s ever happened to us Europeans!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And once we understand that, and I, anybody who comes out from the zombie condition will affirm what I’m telling you now, is that you find you have energy that you never even knew existed! So when we get a critical number of our people understanding it, there is nothing, absolutely nothing that can stop this thing from just succeeding for us!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[24:48]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Yes. The Rudyard Kipling poem, “<em>The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon</em>” comes to mind, Alfred. That is what we need, and that is what we are hoping to get. And I believe what we will get.</p>
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<p>The other thing I wanted to ask you was regarding support for Monika. What’s the support like on the ground in Germany? Do you have a few people who are up to various, different things that you rely on? Just just on the ground really. I mean, obviously Sylvia Stolz is aware, so to that means any supporters of her, will now be aware. How’s it looking on the ground for you in Germany?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">I don’t want to make a statement on that, because I just observing what’s happening in the Internet basically, and how the people are understanding what’s going on. And I’m thrilled, I’m absolutely thrilled, how this incident, this single incident, has done more now to galvanize people to understand and you can see it., because I saw a number of people are putting out like, videos of very amateurish, but that’s okay, with me, they’re doing what they can. And they’re saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>I never knew about Monika until this! And this really sort of shook me. So I’m doing something now.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I’ve seen a number of things coming out now, within the first week, where people are triggered now, that they have to do something! And we didn’t see that before. Before people would still be complacent and say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well, why should I do something. I don’t want to do anything.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And this I think is making people understand, that hey, this is actually real. This isn’t just a movie. This isn’t just, you know, like a TV show you can turn it off, and laugh about it. No! This is reality.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So I see this as a galvanizing moment, and the year has just begun. I mean, I think it’s going to, &#8230; I don’t think at the end of this year, there’s going to be many people who don’t know what kind of a fraud this Holohoax is.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And in Germany, there’s more and more people also, &#8230; You get the extremes. You get some people say:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh thank god! They got another one of these people that are there threatening our peace, and blah, blah, blah!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But the people that are understanding, are becoming quite angry!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Exactly. And also is there any chance of getting any support in Germany from certain more Right-wing political parties, like the AFD? Is anyone approaching, Alfred, or would that be a waste of time?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">These are all a waste of time right now. I’ll tell you right now, the solution will not come from any of these parties, because they are all completely controlled! There is no escaping this holohoax, and not a single party comes even close to saying, “<em>That’s all a lie!</em>” They won’t even talk about 9/11. They will not talk about anything! They only talk about what the jew, the parasite allows them to speak and say. Which is fairly limited, and getting narrower all the time.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[27:48]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So, the people are realizing that the solution will not come from these political parties, and it can’t. I mean, “<em>democracy</em>” itself is a complete tool for the jews, to be able to do that with what we now see. And more and more people are saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Never again democracy!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We always used to hear, “<em>Never again Auschwitz</em>”, actually this is leading to the conclusion, “<em>Never again democracy!</em>” in terms of what we are now being fed as what’s democracy. We need institutions that are accountable and take responsibility for what they have to do, and we don’t have that. In these political parties nobody is accountable for the decisions they make. They kind of anonymously put up their finger and say, “<em>Yeah, we vote for this</em>”, or vote for that, blah, blah, blah. And none of the real subjects are ever addressed! And we are being disenfranchised more and more every day. They move the power of decision-making to Brussels. I mean, it gets even more and more anonymous and further and further away, and that is intolerable for us as people. That’s why I say this system cannot survive the wrath that’s coming from the bottom up! And it’s coming.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Alfred, can you let the listeners know how they can best support Monika? I understand there’s an address they can write to., but anything else that you would like to bring up?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">The best right now <strong>[is that]</strong> people should be writing letters of indignation to the prison basically. We’ve got the address in all kinds of videos and we should provide it to you, so you can put it in the show here. And feel free to say, “<em>the political prisoner Monika Schaefer</em>” and then the whole address, as it’s spelled out. And we’ll put that down in writing for your listeners to copy it off of the Internet. And just write these letters!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, that’s a start, and get people who understand to help other people understand. Show your indignation, don’t buckle down underneath these control words all the time. Understand these words that are being used against us, that’s what we have to do.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Yes. And the other thing I mean, for the benefit of some of the audience, I know listen to other shows and they call in. I don’t have call-ins on this show. But if you do that, just try raise the issue of Monika on call-in programs, things like that. The other thing that I’ve been doing is trying to mention it on various different shows. I did a show with Mike Walsh on the tenth of January, and we mentioned it there. Mike did a great article to highlight the situation.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[30:48]</strong></span></p>
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<p>I was David Duke’s a couple of days ago. I’m on with him generally on Mondays at the moment. And I managed to get her name into the discussion only briefly then, because we were talking about different topics, but I just try to get in there, where I can. Did a show with <strong>Gertjan Zwiggelaar </strong>last Friday. I generally do “<em><strong>Down the Rabbit Ho</strong>le</em>”, but we both agreed that we would dump that, that week and do a special show Monika’s persecution, the persecution of Monika Schaefer. And then on Monday I was very pleased to hear that <strong>Jeff Rense</strong> did a show with Gertjan Zwiggelaar, again on Monika’s situation. He and I both played the full, “<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong about the Holocaust</em></strong>” video, in his show, and in my show, respectively. So folks, if you could just get the information out so people are getting aware of this. And as Alfred said, we very concerned about Monika. What Monika would want and correct me if I’m wrong here Alfred, but what Monika would want, is for us to capitalize as much as we can on the situation. We’ve got the opportunity. One of our own is being persecuted, being held against their will, for basically things that she said. And now we’ve got the opportunity that it’s in the time light, so we need to tap capitalize on it, and get as much information in our favor out there. Would you agree?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Absolutely Andy! You know, when this happened, the very day it happened, I told Silvia Stolz, I says, you know, this really doubles her stock value — I hate using those terms, but, it makes it clear to understand — this has doubled her stock value and she says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>No, no, no, it hasn’t doubled it, it has made it ten fold!&#8221;</em></span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s an instant ten fold increase of her stock value, because this is going up, up up, because this is such a singular moment! I mean, the entire story — if you look at Monika and the actual charge on this — from the state prosecutor, which our lawyer could reveal, was actually this video, “<strong><em>Sorry Mom I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>”. Now, we are not going to get a better narrative than this for a long time to come, and we have to capitalize on this in every way we can, because this makes it so abundantly clear to almost anybody, even with a with an IQ of, you know, a gerbil would figure this one out!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#00ccff;"><strong><span style="color:#008000;">[33:01]</span><br />
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That, if they can put someone in prison for apologizing to their mother and then repackaging that apology as being something evil, something is very, very, wrong. And at the same time that all these invaders are coming in, and they get a free pass to do anything they want. And then there’s this snake of a prosecutor, this jew, I assume she’s a jew, or a jew helper — that’s even worse — says, if you wanted to remain free you should have stayed in Canada!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Imagine if they take one of these invaders and tell them, “<em>Well, you know, you should have just stayed your home country</em>”, then they’d be accused of being a racist, you see! So here we are, in our own countries, a German descendant coming from Canada to Germany, comes to conclusions that you’re not allowed to, and then put in jail! I mean, the contrast of what’s happening now is just too much for any anybody who called themselves a human being to get to accept!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Our patience is out! Of our patience is also running out with those people who choose not to understand it! So that’s it. We have to capitalize on this, bring it up at every opportunity you get, because it really does embarrass our opponent. And that’s one of the best points of embarrassments that we can fire at them right now. And we have to fling it as often and hard as we possibly can!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And Monika would be completely satisfied with her condition and could go on and on, if she could just get us get a picture of what’s going on out here. Then she’d say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh, that’s fine! I can just sit here and do nothing, because it’s going all by itself now.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So she would be, but they’re keeping that information away from her. And I’ve hardly been able to write a letter to her, explaining that, because they’ll censor it. They won’t let it go through. So this is it, we have to be able to get through to her.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So right now the best thing is for people, just everyone, if there’s nothing else, write a letter to this prison place and say “<em>political prisoner Monika Schaefer</em>”! You know, the shame of the BRD, which is the initials for Germany. Their political prisoner, our prisoner of war Monika Schaefer, and so forth, at this at this place. And when they get all these letters coming in, they will she’s got some support out there. So that’s a small step that a lot of people can make. That is, in fact, a pretty big help right here!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Thank you Alfred. What actual prison is it in Munich? I’ve been trying to look it up. It’s not Stadelheim prison is it?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah. It’s Stadelheim. I’ve got the address, and I’ll see if I can get in an email here somewhere and then, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Well, what I’ll do for the listeners, I’ll just put Munich prison address into Bing, that’s what I typed in. Second one down, Stadelheim prison Wikipedia. And so that’s S T A D E L H E I M prison, because there’s going to be some people Alfred, that aren’t going to see the post for the show. They’re just going to be listening on their portable device, or something like that. They might be driving. And so, you know, I want people to actually get it in the body of the show as well.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><strong><span style="color:#008000;"> [36:11]</span> </strong></p>
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<p>Obviously you wouldn’t have a prison number, or anything like that for her, because you’ve not had any contact from the authorities. So really, all that people could do, is look up the address of Stadelheim prison, on the internet, and I’m going to get it for you in the next few minutes. Because, what I’d like to do if it’s okay, with you Alfred, I think it’s worth playing Monika’s video again on this show. It’s only five minutes, just to reiterate to anyone who’s unaware of this situation, exactly why she is being held. And she is being held for doing this video! And you can listen, you can have a think, do you think that it’s reasonable that someone should be a maximum security, solitary confinement, for basically what she said on this video? Is that okay, with you Alfred, would why like me to play it?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Oh absolutely! Absolutely! And I’ll also read you the precise address when we’re done with that, where they can write. Yes, absolutely do that, yes.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> What I’ll do, is I’ll mute us both, and you probably heard, I had it lined up, I just found it. It seems to be coming through a bit loud, so if it does, I’ll turn it down. I’ll check my levels. So I’m going to mute us both now, and I’m going to play the video.</p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/06/18/sorry-mom-i-was-wrong-about-the-holocaust-transcript/"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><em><strong>&#8220;Sorry Mom, I was wrong about the</strong> <strong>Holocaust</strong>”</em> <strong>— TRANSCRIPT</strong></span></a></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">Hello. I’m Monika Shafer. I was born and raised in Canada, first generation Canadian citizen of German heritage. My parents both came from Germany. They immigrated to Canada in 1951 and ‘52, respectively. There was a bit of a disconnect between what I experienced in the home life and what I felt outside the home. I love the rich German traditions and culture that I grew up with and yet, I felt ashamed of my Germanness when I was at school, or outside with my friends. I learned very quickly to hide my heritage. It started in the first week of school. Day one, I wore my beautiful little <em>dirndl</em>, a traditional German dress and on day two, children were taunting me:</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">“<em>Oh you forgot to take off your apron! Ha ha ha!</em>” as they were running away, or “<em>Heil Hitler! , Ha ha!</em>”, again taunting me.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">I didn’t exactly know the meaning of that, but I knew it was not friendly. They were being cruel. That was very clear to me.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">I’m reminded, just now, of the plight of the indigenous peoples of North America. They were also made to be ashamed of their culture.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">I would like to share with you now a deep regret that I have for something which I would like to apologize to my parents for, but cannot, because they are no longer alive. Many years ago, I reproached my mother. You see I had been thoroughly indoctrinated as we all were. The stories seemed to be all around us, in school, in television in the very air, and the evilness of Adolf Hitler was as deep and diabolic as imaginable.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">I said to her, to my mother:</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">“<em>Why didn’t you, your friends, your folk, your family. Why didn’t you do something to stop these bad things from happening! Stop Hitler and stop these death camps! You should have done something! You must have known!</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">I was really upset, my reproach was bitter. She listened and she paused and very quietly and in a sad tone of voice, she said:</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">“<em>We didn’t know about any of that. We just did not know. We did not hear about anything like that!</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">Well, now I know why she did not know. It is, because these things did not happen! It is only since the last couple of years, since about 2014, that I have begun to understand that this is the biggest and most pernicious and persistent lie in all of history! Everything has been turned upside down on it’s head!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">Yes, there were detention camps. Nobody denies that there were camps! And yes, the prisoners were kept against their will. Again, nobody denies that. But these were work camps. The prisoners of the camps were being kept as healthy and as well fed as was possible in those terrible war years. They needed to be kept healthy. How else could they perform the work? It was war, and so the camps were basically armaments factories. And how much sense does it make, by the way, to have a hospital in a death camp? There were no gas chambers there. The only gas that was used was to get rid of the lice! Lice carried typhus and typhus was a deadly and rampant disease. So they had to delouse the clothing to keep the people healthy. Now, why would they do that if the goal was to just exterminate the jews? Makes no sense. That is the six million lie, as I know like to call it in a nutshell.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">There is so much more to learn about this and this is all readily available now in 2016 thanks to the digital age with, or without the “<em>thought laws</em>”.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">Back to my family. What a relief it is for me to learn that my parents and grandparents were not part of a people that suddenly became monsters overnight! The reproach which I directed at my mother, I wish I could apologize to her for this. I am, in effect, apologizing to her now, to her spirit. I would like to invite you to find out more by searching the following titles that had such a meaningful and healing influence on me.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#008000;">Thank you.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#00ccff;"><strong><span style="color:#008000;">[42:29]</span><br />
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Okay Alfred.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah, you know, it’s funny when I hear that, when I listen to that I still get tears in my eyes. That has really shocked the jews, because this really did undo hundreds of millions of dollars worth of psychological warfare. But the jews are so clever, they, actually we, actually paid for their psychological warfare against us, because they would make these sick movies like “<em>Schindler’s List</em>” and the “<em>Holocaust</em>” and the like and stuff, and we would pay money to see the propaganda! And that’s bad! That’s really, really, bad. So that’s the summary of that.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> And the other thing I want to mention is that I’ve been looking around and it’s very easy folks. The address as Alfred said for Monika’s name, I would put “<em>our political prisoner Monika Schaefer</em>”. And then it’s Stadelheimer Strabe 81549 Munich Germany. It’s the simplest that. So Stadelheimer Strab 81549 Munich Germany.</p>
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<p>So I’m going to spell the first line. Stadelheimer one word is STADELHEIMER. That’s STADELHEIMER. And Strabe is STRABE. That’s STRABE. 81549. Next line Munich. Next line Germany.</p>
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<p>And then you could send it from anywhere in the world. So please, please, please get a letter in the mail. Get a card to her, or anything like. The important thing it’s not so much what you’re saying, which are, you know, is obviously important, because any prisoners we have, they need support. But it’s just to shock the authorities into how much support Monika’s got, and from all the different areas of the world that support is coming from. And this is really going to worry the Jews. That they’re not going to get away with this sort of nonsense for much longer. Alfred, your comments.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Absolutely! They have to know that we understand the lies and no amount of censorship is going to prevent us from figuring out the big picture. And the further that they drive this now with their agenda of trying to dominate us by weakening us through this mass immigration of invaders, and so forth, the worse it’s actually going to be for the perpetrators! There are lists being compiled everywhere, of those people who have degraded themselves to help the jews, or the jews, themselves. I mean, these lists are being compiled everywhere. People are taking note, registering, you know, taking notes of who has done what, at what point in time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">You know people can say, “<em>Well I didn’t know!</em>” But the point in time that’s gone! Nobody can claim, “<em>I didn’t know</em>” any more. Because if every moron can figure it out, then the people doing this can’t plead ignorance anymore. If you buy stolen goods, they say that ignorance is no excuse. Ignorance does not excuse you from buying stolen goods. You see, it’s the same rules that are going to apply here. This is coming out, and anybody, everybody will be measured on what they did, or did not do, and on whose side they did what! And when the lie is through, and believe me it’s going to be through very, very soon, like quite soon! It’s through right now, only the zombies still think it’s real. Everyone’s going to be held to account. So that’s it! I mean, everybody has to make their own decision.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And like Monika was saying, she reproached our mother for not stopping what happened. Well, how was she supposed to stop these lies, they’re just lies? But now we know what the reality is. So anybody who is on the side of the lie, will expect, definitely can expect harsh treatment from every single person they know! Their children, their neighbors, their friends. Well, they won’t have any friends anymore. People who are now supporting the lie will not have any friends at all! They’ll be lucky if they are left alive when this goes through!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Because, depending on what they’re doing to support this lie, that is treason! It is treason! And treason has traditionally always carried with it the death penalty! But, because of the large number of treasonous offenders, those who have only done a little bit of bad, they can expect some leniency, or they can expect more leniency if they maybe turn in the ones who made them do that sort of thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So this is the phase that we’re going into, where those people who are on the wrong side of this thing, will be stabbing each other in the back! And that’s, you know, as is always the case when somebody is in a group doing something evil, you say:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And this is what’s going to be happening now. In fact, starting right now in the United States, and actually everywhere.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> And the other thing I’ve just found as well, that some of the audience might find interesting, is whilst they don’t have a Twitter account, Stadelheim Prison have a Facebook page. And so you’ll be able to contact them there now, if you think that’s wise. I would stall to say nasty things though, that could result in them treating Monika even worse than they are.</p>
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<p>Again it’s spelt slightly differently. It’s STADELHEIM Prison. So you just type, STADELHEIM Prison, Facebook, into your, you know, whatever search engine you are using. I use Yandex now, and then you’ll come up with their Facebook page. So you can have a look around that. And also, if you do it that’s why folks, then the address is just near the top on the left hand side. So you could copy and paste it. They’ve also got a phone number, etc. That’s another why. I’m just really trying to push anything that we could possibly do to help Monika here, this is what’s important.</p>
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<p>On that note Alfred, we’ve got about seven minutes left. So I’d like to hand back to you, to say anything else that you haven’t yet said.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Well, when you’re speaking of the Facebook page, there’s a very good web page called “<strong><em>wir sind Monika!</em></strong>”, which in German means “<em>We are Monika!</em>”. So it’s “<em>WIR SIND</em>” and then, “<em>MONIKA</em>”. And there’s a little hyphen between that, or a minus sign, between these three words. If you go there, there’s all kinds of good stuff there. And if you go on the Facebook page, you could just say “<em>free Monika! </em>” “<em>free Monika! </em>” you know, just mentioning her name. “<em>We want Monika free!</em>” Because they might block all of those things, but it’s a good try. I mean, they have to do a lot of blocking, because I think the whole world is waking up.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I want people to understand, not to be gloomy! No! Get your fighting spirit and let’s get her out of there! It’s up to us, and only us, to get her out of there! Being gloomy, as if we were defeated. No! No! We are just starting and we are going to come out of this victorious! And all those who understand that now, are well positioned to take basically leadership roles in the struggle. Because you are obliged to get as many people behind you, understanding and marching to get this thing through! We can’t do it alone. Everyone is responsible now to do their part! And that’s all I can say. It’s a great time to have such a challenge that we can do it, and we’re going to win! And to just partake in it. It’s an exciting thing to do!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Yes not just the “<em>wir-sind-monika</em>” page up folks. This is “<em>wir-sind-monika dot com</em>”. And you just go there and there’s all sorts of different things. You might have to right click to get the page translated into English, sometimes. But it’s all worked for me. I got it up straight away. So I’m going to add that to my favorites now. And again, put it in the post for the show.</p>
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<p>I hope that what we’ve done today — we still got a few minutes left — has been useful. And I hope that you will take advantage of using this opportunity to see how effective you can all be as a force in raising awareness of Monika. And also, writing to Monika, using these various different methods, Alfred said. I mean, you could quite easily go on Facebook and say “<em>Free Monika!</em>” There’s nothing wrong with that. But I don’t want you to start issuing any threats, or anything like that, that could cause problems for Monika, or even yourselves. It is a very unpleasant situation that we’re facing. However, as Alfred said, we need to use this to our advantage.</p>
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<p>Funnily enough, Stadelheim Prison, when I was looking it up, Adolf Hitler was actually in prison there in 1922, Alfred! I don’t know if you’re aware of that?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">No! I did know that! So I guess that’s a great honor for Monika to be in the same prison as Adolf Hitler! That’s a pretty good!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Exactly! I think it was on the Wikipedia page, it’s got notable inmates of Stadelheim Prison.</p>
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<p>So yes, there’s all sorts of different things that you can do. We’ve got a few minutes left as I said, so I just want to stress that this is when we all need to come together folks. You know, when one of our gets persecuted, we need to behave as a unit. This is what the jews do! What the jews do, is they promote diversity for the other racial groups, but racial cohesion for themselves. That’s why there was so successful. That’s how they got Monika into prison, because, correct me if I’m wrong Alfred, but wasn’t the B’nai B’rith of Canada that contacted the German authorities and asked for her to be arrested?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Yeah, you know, that’s true and yet what’s interesting is the jews, they’ll never stop conniving, how to sow the most division into the people. Because the official complaint as far as the papers go that our lawyer could look into, was that it was actually a denunciation from our own family! It was a distant relative here who thought that she could protect herself by denouncing us! Now it might be true that’s the actual cause, but I don’t think so. I think they’re just using that one, because that was the one that could sow some division in our family. So you see, you have to, because it was B’nai B’rith that basically contacted the German authorities. But they didn’t use that as the reason in the actual accusation. They take a denunciation out of our own family and use that, because they know that could sow some more division. So if it’s interesting, it’s very interesting.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Yes, and the other thing is, is I find it very strange way they waited so long, until she was Sylvia Stolz trial. They must have been aware that she was in the country. Is there anything that you’d like to say about that? I don’t want you to have to speculate unnecessarily.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> I will, because I’ve thought about that a lot, and I think there are people on the other side who have profiles on us. They know how we’re going to react and they want to make it as profitable for us, for our side, as possible. And then later on they will come out and say, “<em>look I was helping you guys from the other side</em>”. And that’s a very plausible thing, because this is so, I think it’s beyond coincidence. I don’t think they’re really that stupid, because this way they brought Sylvia Stolz back on center stage!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So I think there are people on the other side who are helping us. And they will come out with the evidence of what they have done to help us for their own defense when this thing goes through. There’s a lot of people on the other side that wish they could get off the stage, they’re losing control.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s it. And I say, that’s good they’re doing that. Maybe it was just good luck, maybe it’s our guardian angel? I don’t know what it was, but it couldn’t have unfolded better for us than the way it did! And I’m thankful for that! That’s why we say, we have to take this positive energy that we seem to have backing us and go with it! If we don’t do anything with it, we waste it. So we all have to now do everything we can and take advantage of it and amplify it! And I see that happening. I’m very happy to observe that this is, in fact, happening.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Yes, of course. You’re absolutely right, because if they got her at the airport, or where she was staying, or where have you. They couldn’t have got a more public spectacle than a trial in which the persecuting someone else for their views, could they? So I agree with you there Alfred. We’re pretty much out of time, so could you please give a closing statement to the listeners and then I’ll close out the show.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">This incident in the courthouse in Munich, it brought the glaring light of Sylvia Stolz and the glaring light of Monika together, to make a super glaring light! And now the devil is really in a panic! So that’s all I can say about this.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Excellent! Well I thank you so much. And also everyone, for those who have faith, I would like you to remember Monika and Alfred in your prayers. I believe the power of prayer works. And I want to encourage people to do anything that they can do to help Monika. As I said, write to her. I’ve given you all the different things in the show. So please listen to the show again, so that you can remember all the different things I’ve said. I want to thank Alfred so much for joining me today. I want to thank you all for listening. I’ll be back with you all tomorrow, and bye for now.</p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Video:  AZK &#8211; Sylvia Stolz</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><b>Video published on Jan 18, 2013</b></p>
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<p>(English Subs) <b>Sylvia Stolz</b>, a German lawyer who was jailed for presenting evidence in the defence of her client in the criminal court trial in Germany of so-called holocaust denier <b>Ernst Zundel</b>, tells her story at the <b>AZK</b> (<b>Anti-Zensor-Koalition</b>) <b>Conference</b> in Switzerland, in November 2012. In 2008, she was banned from speaking during the trial, barred from presenting evidence, and criminally charged with contempt of court, and with inciting contempt, and charged under the same section of the <b>German Criminal Code</b> as her client, and subsequently imprisoned for 3 years. She is also barred from practising law. After giving this presentation in Switzerland, she is now again facing criminal charges, as is the host and organizer of the <b>AZK</b>, Mr. <b>Ivo Sasek</b>.</p>
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<p>NOTE: For a translation of the short interview at the very end, please go here (contains C.C.Engl. Subs) <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJvE_">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJvE_</a>…</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Sylvia “<i>LionHeart</i>” Stolz</strong></p>
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<p>Holocaust®, Issue Banned Speech, banned evidence and banned legal defence. The reality of “<i>Free Speech</i>”.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Ivo Sasek (AZK)</b></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Ivo Sasek at the AZK Conference, Nov, 2012</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Our last speaker of the day will be lecturing on banned speech, banned evidence and even a ban on legal defence in court. On top of everything else, being banned from defending yourself in court constitutes a particularly disturbing problem. This speaker is a fully qualified lawyer and throughout her lecture I find it of particular importance, that we don’t let our judgement be influenced by what our eyes and ears have already been shown or told.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">She really made the headlines a few years ago, as a defense attorney. So let me briefly explain with whom we are dealing with. This defense attorney has the courage of the lion. She is stronger than a man, and I have never met a woman with such a profile. She bravely stood up and took it upon herself to defend <b>Ernst Zündel </b>in the famous case against him, for so-called “<i>holocaust denial</i>” She was the trial lawyer of Ernst Zündel.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Ernst Zundel sits in a court in Germany in 2005 at the beginning of a trial where he was accused of incitement.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">During the legal proceedings she provided evidence to the court, which could raise doubts regarding the official account of history. This caused furor in the courtroom. And she was prohibited from speaking any further. This speech-ban was ordered as she was presenting the arguments of the defendant. She was not allowed to argue the case, and barred from listing more evidence.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">She ignored the speech-ban and continued to submit evidence. And was then threatened on pain of penalties if she persisted. As it became too much for the authorities, she was arrested right there in the courtroom during her defence of the so-called “<i>holocaust denier</i>” <strong>Ernst Zündel</strong>. But not even this could silence her, as she continued to speak the case of her defendant while being forcefully removed from the courtroom. For this she was imprisoned for almost three and a half years, in spite of her having no previous convictions.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Arrested in the courtroom and directly into prison. On top of this, she had to face 5 years of “<i>berufsverbot</i>” through cancellation of her license to work as an attorney, and was removed from the <b>Association for German Lawyers</b>. They threw her out, but we would like to carry her into our midst. I urge you to help her along. We are talking about a legend here. Making headlines across Europe.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Welcome <b>Sylvia Stolz.</b> If they won’t let you speak there, we will let you speak here. We trust you to know the limitations. I am sure you do.</span></p>
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<h2 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Sylvia Stolz’s Speech</span></h2>
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<p>Thank you for the warm welcome. Ladies and Gentlemen, dear friends. I’ll say it again, thank you for the warm welcome.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Sylvia-Stolz-037.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24747" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Sylvia-Stolz-037.jpg" alt="" width="546" height="441" /></a></p>
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<p>I would like to begin my presentation with one sentence, with which I also intend to end it. I believe that in this sentence, the very essence of being human is unfolded.</p>
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<p>“<i>To think what is true, to sense what is beautiful and to want what is good, hereby the spirit finds the purpose of a life in reason.</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>This is a quote from <b>Johann Gottfried von Herder, </b>“<i>To think what is true, to sense what is beautiful and to want what is good</i>”. Regardless of your religion, your world-view or philosophical orientation this sentence encapsulates the essence of human life, in my opinion. The alpha and omega.</p>
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<p>One of the important topics we will be discussing, is “<i>Freedom of Speech</i>”. One hears from many places, that people who have certain opinions get into trouble. And this is not confined to political discourse. I am sure you know of quite a few areas, without me listing them. But to give an example, say, the issue of vaccines. There are doctors out there, who have been banned from practicing, because they warned against vaccination. This is just one example out of many within medicine. Or journalists who are ostracized because they have a differing view of the events of <b>9/11</b>, 2001 and report on this. Such journalists are also bound to get in trouble. However, these people are not punished by criminal law, but find themselves punished in their respective occupations.</p>
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<p>These examples should suffice to show, that the highly praised “<i>Freedom of Speech</i>” in reality isn’t all, that it is made out to be. And now to the issue of banned evidence, banned legal defence within the area of “<i>holocaust denial</i>”. Much could be said about this, one hour is far from sufficient. My job here is to omit that, for which there is no time. But there are certain points, which I think are essential to emphasize.</p>
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<p>First of all, it must be said, that the principle of the “<i>defined penal code</i>” has not been fulfilled. It has been downright violated. This principle dictates, that the accused, must be allowed to know, what he did wrong. And what he should have done otherwise If someone takes a bicycle, that does not belong to him, then this of course constitutes “<i>theft</i>”, as we all know. In cases of libel, where a person says something negative, causing reputational damage, then the question of the court is, whether or not, what was said is true or false. And if true, it does not constitute “<i>libel</i>”, because in theory one is allowed to speak the truth. In the case of “<i>holocaust denial</i>” the first problem we are faced with is that the holocaust isn’t defined anywhere. That is the problem of a “<i>defined penal code</i>” An authoritative definition cannot be found anywhere. I’ll get back to this later.</p>
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<p>Let’s turn to to the legal passages. First of all the ones within <b>German Law</b>. In <b>paragraph 130 section 3</b> according to which so-called “<i>holocaust deniers</i>” are fined or imprisoned up to 5 years for each singular offence. In this paragraph there is no mention of the holocaust itself. It is not defined in the law as such. Instead it refers to <b>paragraph 6 section 1</b> of international law. And here we find a definition of “<i>genocide</i>”. And whoever denies that such a “<i>genocide</i>” has occurred, commits an offence, provided that additional criteria are met, such as “<i>disturbance of the public order</i>”. But what I would like to emphasize is the definition of “<i>genocide</i>” in <b>paragraph 6</b>. It is very brief. I’ll give an excerpt. It is defined as “<i>genocide</i>” when “<i>ONE member</i>” of an ethnic, religious or other group is “<i>killed with the intention of causing the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious or national group</i>”. This means that if just one member of say, a religious group is killed, and the perpetrator intended to kill a part of or the whole group. Then it constitutes “<i>genocide</i>”, according to this definition.</p>
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<p>Let us now turn to the question of how it should be defined in order to clear. Normally in cases of murder, a verdict contains the established facts of the police investigation, such as where and when , which weapon was involved, the name of the perpetrators and so on. All this is included in the judgment, after being demonstrated by the prosecution that, say “<i>this was the murder weapon</i>” because it carries the fingerprints of the perpetrator and so on. These things must be stated in the judgment. In cases of “<i>holocaust denial</i>”, we are dealing with a criminal denial of murder, and then of course we would expect to find the details of that murder spelled out too. Otherwise we have no idea, what the accused actually denied. This is the problem, there is no clarity when it comes to what was denied specifically. There should be at least one case against a holocaust denier in which the specifics of the related crime have been demonstrated and specified. I know of no such verdict.</p>
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<p>There are no details concerning the crime-scenes, the method of killing, the number of victims, the time-frame of the killings, the perpetrators, the corpses. We have no physical trace of a killing. The testimonies are not specified, neither are the documents or similar kinds of evidence. The intention to destroy all or part of jewry under national-socialist rule has not been demonstrated anywhere. There are no documents showing any prior decisions, plans or orders. When it comes to the trial of holocaust deniers, we do not find these things specified. Neither do we find any references to other verdicts, in which all these things could have been stated. This is the problem. As long as the court will not commit to certain specified crime-scenes on which these mass-killings are supposed to have happened As long as the court will not commit to at least one specified piece of evidence As long as this remains the case, these mass-killings simply cannot be demonstrated. And even less so the “<i>denial</i>” of said mass-killings.</p>
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<p>Now some people might say, “<i>What about the Nuremberg-trial? It’s probably in there somewhere, the details?</i>” This is not the case. Let me read you the relevant passage of the <b>Nuremberg</b> verdict, where gas-chambers are mentioned. Here it says and I quote:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>A certain number of the concentration camps were equipped with gas chambers for the wholesale destruction of the inmates, and with furnaces for the burning of the bodies. Some of them were in fact used for the extermination of Jews as part of the ‘final solution’ of the Jewish problem. Most of the non-Jewish inmates were used for labor, although the conditions under which they worked made labor and death almost synonymous terms. Those inmates who became ill and were unable to work were either destroyed in the gas chambers or sent to special infirmaries, where they were given entirely inadequate medical treatment, worse food if possible than the working inmates, and left to die.</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>That is all it says about gas-chambers in the Nuremberg verdicts.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Nuremberg-Harwood-008-Aerial-view-of-Nuremberg-Palace-of-Justice-in-Winter-1945-46.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23815" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Nuremberg-Harwood-008-Aerial-view-of-Nuremberg-Palace-of-Justice-in-Winter-1945-46.jpg" alt="" width="724" height="475" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Nuremberg-Harwood-008-Aerial-view-of-Nuremberg-Palace-of-Justice-in-Winter-1945-46.jpg 724w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Nuremberg-Harwood-008-Aerial-view-of-Nuremberg-Palace-of-Justice-in-Winter-1945-46-600x394.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 724px) 100vw, 724px" /></a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Nuremberg-Harwood-007.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24760" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Nuremberg-Harwood-007.jpg" alt="" width="788" height="608" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Nuremberg-Harwood-007.jpg 788w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Nuremberg-Harwood-007-600x463.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Nuremberg-Harwood-007-768x593.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 788px) 100vw, 788px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] The <b>International Military Tribunal</b> (<b>IMT</b>) at Nuremberg 1945/6</span></p>
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<p>It is all stated in general terms such as “<i>a certain number of concentration camps</i>”. It is not mentioned where the gas-chambers were. This means that a defense attorney is left with no place to begin. It is also important to emphasize that the rules of evidence where nullified in the Nuremberg trials. Very important parts of them at least. It says here, in the London statutes which were written specifically for this military tribunal. Here in <b><i>Article 19</i></b> it says:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>The Tribunal shall not be bound by rules of evidence</i>”.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That is a sentence which is worth pondering. That a military tribunal, from its inception is given a free hand when it comes to rules of evidence. And furthermore in <b><i>article 21</i></b>:</p>
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<p>“<i>The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge, but shall take judicial notice thereof</i>.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Interesting, right? It shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge, but what are “<i>facts of common knowledge</i>”. It is usually the job of the courts to establish the facts, not presume the facts.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"> <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Sylvia-Stolz-038.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24755" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Sylvia-Stolz-038.jpg" alt="" width="498" height="373" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Robert H. Jackson, chief US prosecutor at Nuremberg, during his closing address to the Tribunal at Nuremberg 1946</span></p>
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<p>It all becomes somewhat clearer in the words of the American chief prosecutor <b>Robert H. Jackson</b>. He stated in the <b><i>Nuremberg protocols vol. 19 p. 440</i></b>:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>As a military tribunal, this Tribunal is a continuation of the war effort of the Allied nations</i>.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>I’ll repeat, the <b>Nuremberg tribunal</b> is “<i>a continuation of the war-effort of the Allied nations</i>” Does a nation engaged in a war-effort need rules of evidence, as it seeks to burden its opponent with guilt?</p>
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<p>I would now like to read you a passage from another verdict, in which one might assume to find the details of the holocaust specified. This is from the so-called “<b><i>Frankfurt Auschwitz Trials</i></b>”. Here it says in the final verdict, and I quote:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>The court lacked almost all the means of evidence of a normal murder trial and necessary for gaining a truthful image of the events at the time of the murder. There were no bodies of the victims, no autopsy reports, no expert reports on the cause and time of death, there was no evidence as to the criminals, the murder weapons, etc. Verification of the witness testimonies was only possible in rare cases</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And further below:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">“<i>The court was therefore in the clarification of the crimes of the accused almost solely dependent upon witness testimonies</i>. <i>Additionally, there were barely any of the witnesses, who could be described as neutral observers of the occurrences of the Auschwitz concentration camp</i>”.</p>
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<p>From this verdict we are forced to conclude … or simply take in what is written to see that:</p>
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<p>“<i>the court was in the clarification of the crimes of the accused almost solely dependent upon witness testimonies</i>”.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Sylvia-Stolz-039.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24756" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Sylvia-Stolz-039.jpg" alt="" width="696" height="429" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Sylvia-Stolz-039.jpg 696w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Sylvia-Stolz-039-600x370.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] The <b>Frankfurt Auschwitz Trials </b>(1963 – 1967) was a series of trials charging 22 defendants under German law for their roles as low-level officials at the Auschwitz camp complex.</span></p>
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<p>This is the starting point of a trial for holocaust denial, and it is also the end-point of a trial for holocaust denial, because nothing ever changes. One never gets to know, neither as defence attorney nor as prosecutor what actually has been established as fact. One cannot know from the prior verdicts, old of new. Surely there is a lot in the media and much can be read in books about it, but obviously, we need to hear what has been determined by the courts. We want to know.</p>
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<p>At this point I would like to add a very telling statement by 34 French historians. In 1979 these 34 historians issued a statement in response to the technical evidence presented by revisionist historian <b>Robert Faurisson</b> who sought to disprove the existence of gas-chambers. These 34 historians all hold to the official account of the holocaust and put forward the following as a counter-argument to Robert Faurissons line of reasoning. I quote:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>It must not be asked how, technically, such a mass murder was possible. It was technically possible because it happened. That is the required point of departure of any historical inquiry on this subject. It is incumbent upon us to simply state this truth: there is not, there cannot be, any debate about the existence of the gas chambers.</i>”, end quote.</p></blockquote>
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<p>This also belongs to the point of departure of a trial for holocaust denial, because this is how the judges, the prosecutors etc. are behaving. Through their actions they are clearly letting you know, that you are not allowed to ask. This has had immense consequences.</p>
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<p>I am in no way the first lawyer to be punished for “<i>holocaust denial</i>”. Not by a long shot. I might be the first lawyer to be imprisoned for it though. But for years lawyers have been accused of holocaust denial, because they submitted evidence regarding details of the holocaust. When submitting evidence, one necessarily have to phrase it as statements of facts. Otherwise it will not constitute evidence, and will be dismissed. That means you have to claim as fact, that which you want to demonstrate to the court. Otherwise it is not valid, and can be dismissed on formal grounds.</p>
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<p>But when submitting evidence on behalf of a holocaust denier, asking the court to establish that “<i>so-and-so is the case, by expert testimony or in accordance with earlier reports</i>”, etc. Then the evidence is not admitted by the court, and the lawyer is then accused and sentenced for holocaust denial. The general public know very little of this, because the lawyer in question seldom wishes to attract any attention. They simply pay the fine, and tell themselves that they will stay out of trouble in the future. There are a great many cases like this.</p>
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<p>But I thought to myself, why should this remain unknown to the public. The way the accused are being treated, the way justice is miscarried. To punish lawyers simply for doing their job. I felt it was important to me, that the public get to feel this too I will now turn to the Bavarian court for prosecution of attorneys, who was to decide whether or not I should lose my license. Here again i submitted evidence regarding the presupposed “<i>obviousness</i>” of the holocaust.</p>
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<p>The evidence again was not admitted, and the reason given was, that the court in light of the available books and pictures hold no doubt as to the “<i>obviousness</i>” of the holocaust. I as well as my lawyer then requested that the court point out, which books and which pictures gave them certainty with regard to the “<i>obviousness</i>” of the holocaust. These requests were dismissed because: “<i>the holocaust and the national-socialist violent crimes against the jews were ‘obvious’</i>”. So, we did not receive an answer as to which material, formed the basis for the certainty of the court. All we got was a very general reference to “<i>newspapers, radio and television, lexicons and history books</i>”. End quote.</p>
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<p>In other words, if you want to know why you are being punished, then you should go and look it up in the newspapers. It will not appear in the judgment. Go look it up in the “<b><i>Bild-zeitung</i></b>” (german tabloid). This is of course an important point they have, about “<i>the newspapers</i>”. What does the newspapers say?</p>
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<p>A French historian Jacques Beynac ,was quoted in <b><i>Le Nouveau Quotidien de Lausanne</i></b>, a Swiss newspaper in September 1996. He said:</p>
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<p>“<i>When it comes to the existence of nazi gas-chambers, all one can do is, to point out the absence of documents, of physical traces and similar types of material evidence</i>”. According to him, “<i>all one can do is, to point out the absence of documents, physical traces and similar types of material evidence</i>”</p>
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<p>This is the opinion of a French historian, who by the way supports the official account of the holocaust. Does this not show that the “<i>obviousness</i>” could and should be questioned in court?</p>
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<p>Another historian, Ernst Nolte wrote in his book “<b><i>The Causal Nexus”:</i></b></p>
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<blockquote><p><b><i>“</i></b><i>The witness testimonies are for the most part based on hear-say and assumptions. The few eye-witness testimonies we have, are in partial contradiction with one another, and raises questions regarding overall credibility</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>The historian Hans Mommsen was quoted in the “<b><i>Süddeutsche Zeitung</i></b>”, saying “<i>The holocaust was not ordered by Hitler</i>”. Again statements showing that questions regarding the “<i>obviousness</i>” of the holocaust are valid.</p>
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<p>The last statement I would like to read to you is from Fritjof Meyer. In the journal “<b><i>Osteuropa</i></b>” he had an article entitled “<i> The number of Auschwitz Victims. New insights from newfound archival documents</i>” He wrote the the following with regard to the crime-scene. He is editor at “<b><i>Der Spiegel</i></b>” by the way… In may of 2002 this journal came out in which he states that the genocide did not happen within in the concentration camp Auschwitz. Instead the genocide happened: “<i>In the two farmhouses outside of the camp, probably</i>”… so the genocide did not happen inside the camp, but “<i>probably</i>” in two farmhouses outside of the camp?</p>
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<p>Again this shows, that evidence concerning the “<i>obviousness</i>” of the holocaust should be allowed in court Now, let us see where the supreme court stand with regard to the criminalisation of holocaust denial. Because the law here prohibits a specific kind of speech it is regarded as a “<i>special statute</i>” within the law. This special statute is acknowledged as “<i>unconstitutional</i>”, by the supreme court, because it goes against the constitutionally guaranteed “<i>freedom of speech</i>”. This was determined by the supreme court in a rather recent decision from 2009. The official acknowledgment of paragraph 130 as a “<i>special statute</i>” is a small step forward. If they would just take the consequence and repeal the law criminalising holocaust denial due to its unconstitutionality… However, I will not spare you their reasons for not doing so. The justifications given by the supreme court for upholding the special statute.</p>
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<p>In the so-called <b><i>Wunsiedel-decision</i></b> of the supreme court of 2009, the court declared that Germany is by way of exception allowed to keep special statutes such as paragraph 130. That is the statute criminalising one particular kind of speech, with the inherent criminalisation of evidence and legal defense… Germany is by exception allowed to keep this special statute because of “<i>the unique historical identity of the Federal Republic of Germany shaped through contrast to national-socialism</i>” In other words, they are allowed to keep the exceptions to free speech, because it is the “<i>Federal Republic of Germany</i>”?</p>
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<p>This is very well put. It brings out the arbitrariness rather well. The second justification is not stated as clearly and is found elsewhere in this supreme court decision. Here they speak of “<i>unique</i>” crimes and seem to suggest that, because we are dealing with this “<i>unique</i>” crime, then by way of exception demonstration of evidence is both superfluous and criminal. Giving evidence is both superfluous and criminal, when dealing with a “<i>unique</i>” crime. Does this seem logical to you?</p>
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<p>At the end of the day, these are the two pillars upon which the criminalisation of holocaust denial rests. It is the justification within legal-theory, so to speak.</p>
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<p>“<i>The unique historical identity of the Federal Republic of Germany</i>” and the “<i>unique crime</i>” itself, are the reasons given for not allowing the demonstration of evidence.</p>
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<p>Revisions and constitutional complaints are regularly dismissed as “<i>obviously unjustified</i>” Which again entails, that their decisions need no justification. When something is “<i>obviously unjustified</i>” it of course needs no justification… How neat, that is.</p>
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<p>Again the answer is not given with regard to questions such as, “<i>What are we allowed to say, then?</i>” There is no answer. I heard the following statement by judge Meinerzhagen myself in court, during the trial of Ernst Zündel. But if I had simply told you, you would probably not believe me. And it is of course not stated in the transcripts. However the “<b><i>Berliner Tageszeitung</i></b>” (<b><i>Berlin Daily</i></b>) the socalled “<b><i>TAZ</i></b>” had the honor of reporting this statement by Judge Meinerzhagen. I now quote the Berlin daily newspaper “<b><i>TAZ</i></b>” from 9th of February 2007 reporting on the trial against Ernst Zündel:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>Towards the end, and much to the surprise of the anti-fascist groupings present, the court dismissed all the submitted evidence. For the short and simple reason, that it is ‘</i><b><i>completely irrelevant whether the holocaust really did happen or did not happen. It is illegal to deny it in Germany , and that is all that counts in court.</i></b><i>’</i>”. Close quote from TAZ.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I will now return to the sentence with which I began this lecture, “<i>To think what is true, to sense what is beautiful and to want what is good</i>”. This implies the ability to identify and label lies the ability to identify and label the inhumane the the ability to identity and label injustice It also implies character traits, which is of particular importance in our age. The knowledge of our immortality, of steadfastness and incorruptibility. With such character we might be able to shape a world for the many children who were up here earlier today. A world in which we are allowed to speak the truth without punishment.</p>
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<p>Thank you.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Ivo Sasek:</b>  Thank you. Sylvia Stolz</span></p>
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<h2 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Transcript of short interview given after the AZK speech</span></h2>
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<p style="text-align: center;">BREAKING ∞ NEW CHARGES AGAINST Sylvia Stolz</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"> CLICK TO VIEW &gt;&gt;  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJvE_1HQPg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJvE_1HQPg</a></p>
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<p>I would like to add something to my presentation, one thing which I could not mention for time reasons. I mentioned that everybody who does something reasonable, beneficial, something healing, … runs the risk of being called a &#8220;Nazi&#8221;. And if you want to avoid being called a “<i>Nazis</i>”, you MUST ignore the crucial topics and thus you become ineffectual.</p>
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<p>However this is not the only reason why I don&#8217;t mind being called a “<i>Nazis</i>”. If you know what is behind it, if you dealt with the subject, it&#8217;s not an insult. If someone calls me a “<i>Nazis</i>” I don&#8217;t consider it as an affront.</p>
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<p>There is the story of a late, senior lawyer, he was in a bakery and while he was queuing he overheard talks of “<i>Nazis</i>”, in the usual way, ill of course, and finally he said: “<i>Did you ever actually encounter a &#8216;Nazi&#8217;? Look at me!</i>”</p>
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<p>I think this is the right attitude to deal with this matter.</p>
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<h2 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Sylvia Stolz&#8217;s</span></strong></h2>
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<h2 style="text-align: center;"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Last Words </span></strong><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">in Court</span></strong></h2>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://iamthewitness.com/doc/Sylvia.Stolzs.Last.Words.in.Court.htm">http://iamthewitness.com/doc/Sylvia.Stolzs.Last.Words.in.Court.htm</a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">[Image] Heroic German lawyer <b>Sylvia Stolz</b> (with heroic German lawyer <b>Jürgen Rieger</b>), who was disbarred and served three years in prison for debunking the Holocaust and vigorously defending <b>Ernst Zundel</b>.</p>
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<p>German Patriot Defence Lawyer Sylvia Stolz was sentenced to 3 and-a-half years in prison and disbarred for 5 years.</p>
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<p>Below Sylvia’s comments to the court.</p>
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<p>She says the Court is perverting and repressing the truth with the cudgel of “<i>Holocaust,</i>” making a mockery of justice. Her trial has made clear the criminal absurdity of prosecuting “<i>Holocaust Denial.</i>” How can one deny something that never existed? She says these entire proceedings began as a show trial in a kangaroo court and never progressed beyond that point. The main proceedings were projected with smoke and mirrors and the official fairy tale of “<i>Holocaust</i>” was enforced by undisguised force. She observes that the political intent of the Court is the ultimate eradication of the German Nation and its replacement by a mongrelized and deculturated population of mindless consumers.</p>
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<p>Sylvia says she is confident that she has succeeded in exposing this Court to the whole world as an agent that is hostile to the German Nation. By openly and flagrantly violating the law, this Court flees before the truth. Incessantly, like turning a prayer wheel, it has rejected her every evidentiary motion with the cynical pretext of “<i>abuse of court procedure.</i>” &#8230;.. She has hope and faith that the German Nation will someday bring this treacherous Court to justice.</p>
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<p>Sylvia describes how the Defense was forced to accept the contents of the indictment, and this caused the Court’s desired verdict to be the inevitable consequence. In the absence of material evidence, the Court relied on its infantile rulings that “<i>Abuse of Procedure = Criminal Act.</i>” Thanks to this judicial sleight of hand, there was no assumption of innocence and the Court did not have to prove guilt.</p>
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<p>Sylvia asks: to what is Grossmann referring when he mentions “<i>domestic and foreign</i>” court verdicts? Could he be referring to the Nuremberg show trials? The Allied Military Tribunal was nothing but a postwar Talmudic Inquisition conducted by Germany’s enemies. It featured witnesses with “<i>built-in credibility</i>” and Jewish testimony that could never be questioned or authenticated.</p>
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<p>She asks: what would people like Grossmann do without the official obligatory fairy tale of “<i>Holocaust?</i>” Her trial has again demonstrated that world political powers are players in the “<i>Holocaust</i>” game (or “<i>Holocaust Industry</i>” as Prof. Norman Finkelstein calls it, he should know, since both of his parents were interned at Auschwitz during the War.) This explains why objective historical research is still suppressed, sixty-three years after the end of the War. As an example of ongoing intellectual repression in Germany Sylvia refers to the “<i>Hermann Case</i>” in which a popular commentator was fired for referring to such positive aspects of National Socialism as its family policy and the construction of Autobahns.</p>
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<p>Sylvia demonstrates that the Court’s procedural system is very, very simple. It consists of disallowing all evidentiary motions as “<i>abuse of Court procedure,</i>” which is a criminal act. She says that the District Attorney’s closing tirade was beneath all legal criticism, nothing but purest slander and abuse&#8230;..Then Sylvia shows how powerful interests profit greatly by inculcating a negative self-image into German society, with their incessant propaganda and brainwashing. If Germans were as evil as Grossmann depicts them, they would long ago have skinned him alive.</p>
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<p>She points out that under the present Talmudic Inquisition, anyone who calls attention to the destructive nature of Judaism can be punished. Glenz tells the Court Reporter to write that remark down as well. Sylvia observes that today, no one is allowed to say anything the least bit derogatory about Jews, and yet the necessary first step toward changing and improving conditions in Germany is recognizing the cause of our malaise. She says that Horst Mahler’s writings provide the proof for this, and she will stand by this assertion. Glenz orders the Reporter: “<i>Put that in too!</i>”</p>
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<p>Sylvia continues and remarks that Germany now stands under the yoke of world Judaism. Glenz threatens: “<i>We are going to cut off your final address if&#8230;</i>” But Sylvia ignores him and says that following World War II, the real criminals took over the world. Glenz growls “<i>I’m warning you!</i>” but Sylvia again urges the public to consider the causes of Germany’s plight and continue gathering and considering the material evidence. She tells the Court that National Socialism is not dead, regardless of how much Grossmann and his ilk wish it were dead. She says that National Socialism represents what is good and enduring in the German spirit. Idealism and patriotism are rigidly suppressed at this time but they cannot be suppressed forever.</p>
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<p>Turning toward Grossmann and the Court, she asks:</p>
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<p>“<i>Is he German? Or is he perhaps related to that Moshe Grossmann who for four years following the end of World War II continued torturing and murdering German slaves in the East, as the Jewish author John Sack reports in his book </i><b><i>An Eye for an Eye</i></b><i>?</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Then she turns to the Bench and asks:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>What about you — are you Germans? ‘German’ stands for honor and steadfastness! Think of Deutsche Treue! Nobody can call what is going on in this court as ‘honorable.’ In this court, the only ‘justice’ is inspired by the Talmud!</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Sylvia expresses her faith that history will take its inevitable course and “<i>the truth will win out.</i>” She says that since the trial began she has been prepared for her preordained conviction — she told them at the beginning that she knew her verdict was handed down, even before her indictment. To the Bench she says:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>And you, my high-and-mighty judges, will never again experience inner peace&#8230; Your depiction of National Socialism as a criminal system will see to that. You are willing accomplices to the brainwashing and degradation of the German people&#8230;. Adolf Hitler accurately recognized the Jewish problem, the malevolent power of the Jews in certain respects&#8230; Yes, I share the values of National Socialism!</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Sylvia replies,</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<i>If my actions bring a little more light into this dark hour for Germany, then I will gladly go to prison! It does not bother me that I am officially ridiculed and insulted by this despicable court and atrocious government &#8230; My high and mighty judges, you are convicting yourselves, not me.</i>”</p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">PDF of this post. Click to view or download (2.4 MB).</span> <span style="color: #000000;">&gt;&gt;<a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Sylvia-“LionHeart”-Stolz.pdf">Sylvia “LionHeart” Stolz</a></span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Version History</strong></span></h3>
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<p><strong>Version 3:</strong> Feb 28, 2020 — Re-uploaded images and PDF for <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>katana17.com/wp/</strong></span> version.</p>
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<p><strong>Version 2:</strong> Dec 2, 2018 — Improved formatting.</p>
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<p><strong>Version 1:</strong> Published Aug 10, 2014</p>
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