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The Flipside with Monika – Ep 09 with Grace Eki Oyama – Aug 24, 2024 – Transcript

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Monika Schaefer

The Flipside with Monika – Ep 09

with Grace Eki Oyama

Sat, Aug 24, 2024

[In this weekly podcast, episode 09, on Republic Broadcasting Network, Canadian nationalist and author, Monika Schaefer talks with her guest, Grace Eki Oyama.

Key points include:

Background on how Monika met Grace at Arthur Topham’s speech crime trial in 2015, in Canada.

Discussion of Grace’s background in writing, translation and meeting influential figures like Eustace Mullins and David Icke.

Grace’s short video, The World Owes Germany an Apology for World War Two.

Grace’s comment on war: “Without deception, war is not possible, that war is propaganda.”

Introduction of the topic of musical frequencies, particularly A440 vs A432.

Grace explains: “Verdi thought this was the best that it should be. This was the best pitch.”

Discussion on how 432 Hz tuning feels more natural for singers.

Grace mentions: “When I changed my piano tuning to 432, my daughter, who was in kindergarten, said, ‘much more relaxing’.”

Introduction of the topic of three stages of childhood development in Japanese philosophy.

Grace discusses the importance of protecting childhood innocence and the dangers of over-sexualisation.

Caller Kathleen mentions a book called “The 440 Conspiracy” about the shift to 440 Hz tuning.

Caller Nightingale shares a personal mystical experience from childhood.

Grace comments on the importance of silence: “Silence is the base of everything.”

Discussion of water crystal experiments showing different patterns at 432 Hz vs 440 Hz.

Caller John from New Hampshire expresses interest in connecting with Grace due to shared Italian background.

Brief discussion of the 528 Hz frequency.

Caller Chris provides information about “The 440 Enigma” book.

Grace’s final comment: “Remember that your voice is the free gift of so-called God and nature, an instrument you already have inside.”

– KATANA]

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Episode 9:
Guest – Grace Eki Oyama – long time revisionist, writer, translator and artist. We discuss music frequencies – which have been tampered with – as well as Japanese philosophy on the three stages of childhood, and how development is arrested by certain malevolent forces.

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[Intro music]

[00:40]

Monika Schaefer: Greetings. Good day. Good afternoon. Hello, wherever you are. Today’s date is August, 24, 2024. This is episode nine of The Flip Side with Monika. And I am your host, Monika Schaefer. Before I introduce today’s guest, I’ll give you the phone numbers to call after the bottom of the hour. We like to invite guests or callers to call in. And those numbers are 512-248-8252 or 1800 313 9443.

Okay, today’s guest is Grace Eki Oyama. And I’ll just give you a brief, a story of how I met Grace Eki. And this was back in 2015. So nine years ago almost. I attended the trial, the speech crime trial of Arthur Topham in Quesnel, British Columbia, Canada. And there I met some very interesting people.

And one of the people I met was Grace Eki Oyama. And it turns out she had attended other such trials and was very, very knowledgeable in many things.

And at that time we were talking about World War Two history, those kinds of things. The kind, the very subject that I got into some trouble with the powers that should not be, the Holocaust subject and all those things. So Grace Eki Oyama has been in this for a long time.

And today we’re going to talk about some other subjects a little bit different from that. But I’ll just, before I bring her on, I will just say that in my Chatango site, this is the chat room. And how you can find that chat room, it’s all spelled out The Flipside W Monika. So instead of with. It’s just a W.

So the Flipside W Monika Chatango. That’s Chatango. Chatango. Chatango.com. And I posted a video. It’s a five minute short video. It’s called The World Owes Germany an Apology for World War Two. And that’s a video of Grace Eki, who made this very brilliant and succinct little five minute talk, which was this apology.

And so I’ll let her talk a little bit about that too, because we were just revisiting that a few minutes ago. But the subject we’re going to talk about today are about musical frequency. And people have probably heard about 440 being the standard tuning for A and many people these days are aware that perhaps 432 might be a better frequency. So that’s one of our subjects.

And the other subject, and I had put this into the show notes, if you’re going to find this in the archives, is on the three stages. This is a Japanese philosophy about the three stages of development, childhood development. And I will let her just discuss that at length. So, Grace Eki, are you there?

Grace: Yes. Hello, Monika.

Monika Schaefer: Welcome.

Grace: Thank you.

Monika Schaefer: Would you like to start about this, the title of that video? Because we just talked about that a few minutes ago.

Grace: Yes. Because often it’s not me who put the title, but what I wanted to say. And if you. The idea was war is war. And then I feel that the world does owe an apology for what happened to the Germans, actually, after the war, how they were treated, and also the fact that there is no real official peace treaty, and the expellees, et cetera, et cetera. I think that’s very important for people to know and understand, because it leads away for the problem in what’s happening now in Palestine. There is a similarity, but the fact that it is not known at all, it’s a shame, because it’s things that, oh, including the Nuremberg, which was not a real trial, nor was it very fair.

And so that was the part that I wanted people to be at least conscious of.

Monika Schaefer: Yes, thank you for that. Just clarifying that that wasn’t, you know, our main subject today. But it does give the audience, the listener, a little bit of background about first of all, I explained how I met you was at this speech crime trial. And why don’t you give a little bit of a snapshot about background of yourself? I know you’ve done many things. You’ve lived in many places. You’ve been a writer, you’ve been a translator.

Can you just give maybe a couple of minutes, a bit of background of yourself?

Grace: Well, a couple of minutes.

Monika Schaefer: Maybe that’s not possible! [chuckling]

Grace: Once we get into the detail, we can go all over. But maybe, just as an honor to my father, I just want to add the fact that my father participated in World War Two. And the fact that he is a martial artist of karate.

So I wanted to say that you are brought up in a different environment than if my father was a banker, or a businessman, or a Professor, let’s say. And that was one thing.

And then later on, I worked with this researcher, a Japanese researcher who would also make history on his own. But his name is Ryu Ota. And Ota is the one who got me very much interested in, … Well, what really happened was when Eustace Mullins came to Japan, there was a presentation with a professional translator. And the translator, I realized, wasn’t really translating, not accurately. And it was about 9/11. And whatever Mr Mullins was saying, basically, she was translating it the opposite. I almost thought she could be a saboteur. But later on, I understood this, that we, first of all, in Italian they say, “translator traitors”. “Traditore, traditore”. Because it can’t be helped because you can only translate something that you understand. So she wasn’t, I feel, purposely doing that. But from her standard of knowledge and common sense, the alternative so-called conspiratorial theory sounded so absurd, I think she just couldn’t digest it and kind of purified the translation.

[08:40]

Monika Schaefer: Wow! And when you say 9/11, you’re talking about 9/11, the events of September 11, 2001, right?

Grace: Correct?

Monika Schaefer: To clarify, yes. Oh, that’s very interesting.

Grace: Well, he said a lot of interesting things, but she was diluting it down.

But anyway, so what I did was I wrote out what Mr Mullins said and what the translator said, and how I would have translated what I feel he really said. And I showed it to Ota. And ever since then, he’s asked me to basically become his translator. And through him, I met really not just Eustace Mullins, but he had more than 13 books by John Coleman translated into Japanese. Now he’s famous for the Committee of Three Hundred. He also, I think, was the first to talk about Bohemian Club and Bilderberg. I was also his translator when David Icke came two times when Ota called David Ike to Japan, for example. And he would have called Webster Tarpley. But unfortunately, he became ill and died. And that was about 2009 anyway.

So that taught me very much. That’s how I found out a lot about true history in the West. Yeah, true history in the West.

Despite this slogan of “democracy and freedom”, there really wasn’t., … You know, one of the reason about Arthur Topham’s trial is like, do we really have free speech? And ever since I found out about Zundel.

Monika Schaefer: Ernst Zundel.

Grace: Yes. And when the court in Canada, when the court judged that “truth is no defense”, I was so shocked! Because, well, how else are you expected to defend yourself? Yes, I just found it so absurd!

And I think that is, at least in, as far as Canada is concerned, that was when things started to crack. That was like the beginning of the cracking of the justice system.

And the other thing is that I really, honestly believe in freedom of speech. Even for your enemies, even for things that you don’t like. Because that’s the only way. I don’t want to sound like cliche, but the only way to peace is through negotiation and through diplomacy and so forth. And it saddens me also to see what is happening with Ukraine and Russia, too.

But instead of diplomacy or negotiation, basically a dialogue, it seems that the world has gone mad, and it’s like more money, more arms, more of the things that’s, more sanctions more of the things that’s really not a solution or working!

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. And I would say the really important element is deception. Right? In all these things that are happening.

Grace: Well, like, I think we would all agree that without deception, war is not possible, that war is propaganda!

Monika Schaefer: I’ve never heard anybody say it that way. That’s really, really good! That’s profound. I would say. [chuckling]

Grace: Thank you.

But I also think you have to demonize the enemy, because if you had one drop of sympathy, imagination, or compassion, you really could not have war.

So you have to demonize or as an “alien”, I say alien in quotation Mark because it can mean many things, but something so foreign and different and something to be demonized! And I’m sure you would understand.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

And, I mean, otherwise you wouldn’t have all these soldiers going and killing people who look like them, especially all these brother wars. Cousin wars.

Grace: Yeah.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. For sure. So, Grac Eki, that’s really very, very good! Thank you. I didn’t know how your beginnings were in translation, but that’s how you met all these people and then learned a lot about true history. And then I know that you were a writer for a while, I think, at the American Free Press.

Grace: No. Well, I had a job with them at the Barnes Review for a while, but it was very short. It was work, but that’s how I managed to go to Palestine in Israel.

So I am very appreciative of their help at that time.

Monika Schaefer: Right, right. Okay. Well, would you, do you feel ready to jump into the first of our subjects that we., … And the reason we’re going to talk about this, people might say:

“Well, why? This is kind of unrelated to anything else.”

But Gracie spent a few weeks with me a month or so ago, and we, of course, had time to talk about lots of things.

And I like to play music, and we talked about these frequencies. And generally, people, the standard tuning is for A is 440.

Now, anybody who plays and tunes up their instrument, they’ll know that.

Now, we talked about this other frequency, A 432. And I was just delighted and surprised to hear Grace Eki talk about this because you revealed to me that a lot about this.

And so I thought:

“Oh, well, we have to talk about this on the show.”

[chuckling] So tell us a little bit about how did that come to be that this frequency of 440 was pushed upon us. I think that’s what we had talked about when you were here.

Grace: But Monika, it’s not always 440. It can be 442. And I have heard of 446, so it isn’t always 440 either. It can even be higher.

Monika Schaefer: Well, I’ve heard that there are some orchestras that in Europe, for example, who are pushing to have the 442 tuning, and it’s just kind of tightening things up.

I feel like it’s tightening up a tight wire and to the bursting point or something. So go ahead and talk about the history, perhaps.

Grace: I would also say from 1980 to 85, I was in Italy actually studying music, you see, and around that time, there was also this revival of Baroque music and original instruments.

So I was always interested in this. But in order to save time, I will be a little bit practical.

I happen to be very, very fond of the Italian composer Verdi. This is also called La Verdiana, meaning Verdi’s A, meaning. He thought this was the best that it should be. This was the best pitch. So I assume that was the pitch he was writing in.

[16:13]

Monika Schaefer: Sorry, which was the best pitch?

Grace: Well, it depends how you count it. But basically 432.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

Grace: If you want to really get into the science and all this is actually supposed to be like 430.8 or something, but because it depends how you count it from, the, C equals 256.

But in order to simplify, I also, later on, I knew, have you ever heard of Schiller Institute in Washington, DC?

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

Grace: But anyway, there was a politician called Lyndon Larouche and his wife Helga, who is German. She heads the Schiller Institute. They only doer. Music and performances in a A equals 430 or 432. And from their Institute, if you Google, you can see musicians actually performing for you in two different pitch. I was lucky. I tried to look for some of the things that I managed to experience a long time ago, but not everything is on the Internet still, and I couldn’t find it.

So I’ll tell you one radio program with Carlo Bergonzi, but he was like the Italian star tenor. And in that radio program, he actually has three, like, graduate students in music singing opera arias in both pitches.

And all of them said that it feels so much natural to sing in 432 as opposed to 440. And Bergonzi would explain why he feels that is. I also, …

Monika Schaefer: Can you tell us a little bit about that? Why that is? Why does it feel better?

Grace: Well, first of all, I think you are getting, apparently the standard for classical music was about 430, 32, definitely until the fifties with Fruk Wengler [sp].

Now, you know, there are many people who like retro recordings. Could there be a possibility that the pitch does also influence? Is one.

And the other thing is that let’s try to get nearer to the composer’s original intent.

And the other thing is that without going into too much detail, we have chest and middle voice and high voice.

Now, if you, if the tuning is too high, your voice register changes at the wrong place, and that may not reflect correctly with the words that’s meant to be colored. Before you go and ask me, let me just add, I was also fortunate enough, … So there was a time when these musicians were actually doing presentation, like Norbert Brining. He was like the head of the Amadeus Quartet, and he actually played Bach Partita in two tones right in front of you, and you can feel the difference.

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

Grace: Now, at the same time, I also want to tell you that there are people who like brilliant, who don’t like, who prefer the more brilliant tilling sounds.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

Grace: And, but anyway, Verdi lost. Why? Apparently the Russian military equipments were already tuned higher and it, they can be more penetrating and they can be heard much better at distance. So for like, military bands in the 1800s.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

Grace: That was their preferred pitch.

Monika Schaefer: I just want to, if I may jump in, for people who have not heard about this and they might think, well, why don’t you just play in a different key? That’s not actually what happens with this different tuning. It’s not just simply playing in a lower key. Like instead of C being C, go to B flat or something. That’s not what’s happening. This frequency is, I would say it’s less than a quarter tone or something. It’s really just a change in frequency. And it literally just is., … It’s something that we, … We all have a vibration. We all have a frequency. Everything around us is vibrating at a frequency. And the 432 frequency for the A is, to my knowledge, a more natural frequency that we simply, our bodies will vibrate more naturally to that.

So that’s the important point to make here. Otherwise people will say:

“Well, why don’t you just play lower, play in a lower key?”

[chuckling]

Grace: Just like when you change the tonality, the coloring of the piece changes. It’s a very subtle difference. But I would just say that for people interested, try looking for this kind of experiment that was done where they would switch the pitch, and you can also see what you, how you feel.

And as a last comment on this, I want to add that when I changed my piano tuning to 432, my daughter, who was in kindergarten, said:

“Much more relaxing!”

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

Grace: That was the key for me.

Monika Schaefer: Yes. So I did that once, Gracie Aki. I paid the piano tuner extra because it took longer, and I got him to tune my piano down to 432.

But then my next music jam, when I was asking all the musicians to tune their instruments down the guy with the twelve string guitar, [chuckling] and they didn’t appreciate it! [chuckling] So it didn’t work out. Well, that’s the problem. When we have this standard tuning that everybody’s tuned to and when we’re playing with people, we have to come to the agreement where we’re going to be tuned at. And what about accordions? I mean, all these instruments are tuned to that certain frequency.

So that’s a little bit of a, just a technical problem with this.

But it’s an interesting subject, and I do hope that maybe we’ll get some callers after the bottom of the hour on that subject.

I mean, I don’t want to be sounding like we’re jumping around one subject to another, but I think these things all kind of do relate back to us because it’s like we’re being, you know, damaged or assaulted on all fronts, and this is one of them. I do think that the musical frequencies is just another way that those who wish us harm are, you know, degrading us and this kind of thing. But unless you had something more that you wanted to talk about that.

[23:25]

Grace: Well, yeah, let me ask you, more for people can also try and find things, but 432 mathematically is two to the fourth power times three to the third power. And I have seen documentation how it corresponds with many other amphithegorian numbers.

But we don’t have time to really go into that. But I feel like, and before we go into that, let me, can I give you my favorite quote of Mozart, which is that he said:

“Music is painted on the canvas of silence.”

And that’s the other thing we are lacking. We don’t have enough silence!

And the other thing is that I think there is, music is used especially, … How can I explain this? Okay. Records used to, the sound would come in waves.

And I’m not so sure about the cassette, but I think it’s still rather relaxing compared to the CDs, all this digital sound, they actually come in square blocks exactly like in the computer screen. If you enlarge it’s made from little squares.

Monika Schaefer: Yes. Pixels and pixels, right?

Grace: Correct. And it’s the same thing with music. You break it down into blocks and then you remake it, but it’s in blocks as opposed to waves. This is my personal comment, and I’m very much interested if anybody else ever felt the same, but I don’t listen so much to CDs anymore. It hurts my ear after a while.

Monika Schaefer: That’s so interesting. There’s a real resurgence in people buying records. Records, actual records, because it is a different quality of sound. It really is. And I’m sure that many people are nodding their heads as we’re speaking about this. For sure. For sure.

And that quote, because I just interrupted just when you were saying it was Mozart, did you say?

Grace: Yes. It’s hard to find the original, so I cannot guarantee.

But it’s supposed to be something he wrote in a letter.

Monika Schaefer: I think it’s very apt. We do need silence, and it’s Sorely lacking. [chuckling]

Grace: And [chuckling] the fact that it’s only beautiful because there’s the pause is one. And second. Mozart was like a kind of child prodigy that can say:

“Oh, the birds are Twittering in G major.”

For example, and I think he could hear natural sounds and decipher them better than many of us.

But I think that’s one of the reasons why his work is so eternal. And it seems to, … I’ve read research is how it increases the IQ of children.

Monika Schaefer: Oh, yes.

Actually, that’s a very good point. People say if you have Mozarte while you’re studying, you do better on your exams! [chuckling]

Grace: Interesting! No? And so but shall I, … Let’s move to the next.

Monika Schaefer: Yes, I just found this was the most interesting thing. And we’ll just have a couple of minutes before the bottom of the hour to touch on, but we’ll continue after the break. But you had talked to me about this Japanese. It’s a philosophy about the three stages of childhood. Go ahead.

Grace: It’s like a seven year cycle, but actually it corresponds very well to what Rudolph Steiner felt and thought, at least as far as education is concerned.

But this is the way I interpret. Well, in Japan, you are not adult until you are 20.

Monika Schaefer: Or 21? No? Because you said three times seven. The seven year cycle. Yes?

Grace: Well, although let’s say in the year that you will be 21, you are officially an adult. And it seems strange because if it’s just physical, you seem to have matured much earlier on. But apparently research has shown that human brain takes that long to genuinely finish maturing and growing, 20 years.

And the other thing I was trying to say is that, okay, for the first seven years, you’re just growing physically and you need a lot of physical activity. And then seven from 14, then you get your education in grammar and the basis. And then from, like, 14 till later, it’s, I think it corresponds to the classical concept of rhetoric. You know, grammar first, dialectic first, and then rhetorics. But it also, I don’t know exactly where and how I got this idea, but you’re physically, maybe even a 14, 15, you’re more or less done.

But as far as the concept of philosophy, physics, abstraction, spirituality, that kind of realm, you really don’t understand, you have to be at least 14, more or less. You know, we all have, like, I’m not talking about child prodigies or exceptional people. But usually it takes that long for you to really start to have that kind of capability to comprehend.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, it’s like the philosophical, the spiritual development, all of those things start after maturing.

We’ll come back after the break, Grace Eki, and you can discuss some of the factors that are stalling those processes. So please stick around and we’ll be back after the break.

[29:41]

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Monika Schaefer: All right, welcome back. That music is so beautiful! And it just makes me think of what you just told me about before World War Two, anyway, that it would have been commonplace for families in Europe and Germany to be playing chamber music together after supper, after dinner.

And can you imagine the enrichment that provided in their lives as opposed to being stuck in front of a screen.

But anyway, before we go on with our discussion, I’m just going to remind the listener, if you have the means, please, please do support the Republic broadcast broadcasting network.

And if you go to the website, there will be all the information there. There’s still the special on T-shirt that’s still going on right through September. A special T-shirt? I would say if you do, I think it’s a $100 donation.

And if you don’t have the means, there are other ways you can help this network, and that is by sharing these programs. And you can do that anyway, even if you are supporting financially or support the sponsors. Yeah. So this is not mainstream. We have such a we’re very fortunate to have the Republic Broadcasting Network so that we can speak freely and speak truth.

Okay. So we were going to get onto these three stages of development and this third stage, which is critically important, but it’s less visible to the eye because the physical growth has happened. And the learning, a lot of the learning is in school, like, you were talking about the grammar and this, that.

But this other thing that happens, it’s like philosophical spiritual development that comes in that third stage, does it not? And we had talked about, what are some of the things that could arrest that development? This is the critical part. Go ahead.

Grace: Well, like, I’ll put it bluntly. Sexualization! Over sexualization at a young age.

Now, the West is theoretically at least a Christian country.

And I think it’s somewhere in the Bible or the New Testament. Doesn’t it say something like:

“Children should not see wicked things.”

Or do you know?

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, no, I’m not familiar with, did you say a Bible verse?

Grace: But, anyway, innocence should be protected and childhood should be protected. It’s like you don’t offer a cigarette to a six year old.

Monika Schaefer: Right? No! And what are we seeing in the schools? I mean, this is a subject that we talk about often. I’ve talked about it before, the hyper sexualization, and it is shocking what is going on in the schools. And this is a direct attack on us, on our people, on our children. And my goodness, it’s beyond even just exposure. It’s like downright, you know, poisoning of the minds. And then even physical like:

“Oh, yeah, you don’t feel like a girl today. You want to take these hormone puberty blocking things and, oh, well, oh, well, just. Sure, we can cut off that penis!”

I mean, it is just over the top, outrageously bad what is going on! And I mean, it already, it started a while back, but now it’s just accelerated to beyond belief! And, you know what you say:

“Okay, there’s hypersexual or over sexualization of children at too young, of age.”

This arrests, arrests their emotional development.

Grace: And many other things. And it’s like, I think this was the metaphor I gave to you. It’s like you cannot force open a flower to blossom while it’s in the bud. You would damage it forever! You have to have patience, and it has to grow. Everyone, basically, personally, you have to discover so-called sex or sexuality in some ways on your own, because the internal makings of a human being is far more complicated. And you have to let it blossom in quotation Mark “naturally”, because we have been so cut off from nature. So everyone has to kind of figure it out by refining their instinct.

But it’s just like children can mimic words to appear sophisticated, but to have had the experience to back it up.

And frankly, there was a Japanese writer that said he feels sorry for the younger generation of Japanese because in Japanese there is a word for “love”, and there is another word specifically for “falling in love”. And he said that children have no time, basically, to discover that mysterious emotion of falling in love, for example.

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

Grace: And the other thing is you know why I think the other thing is, in childhood you must play a lot!

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

Grace: It’s very important. Well, one of the things, and also you can’t, I think, the way they keep the children so occupied. So yeah. Because sometimes you must have a lot of breathing space and you must sometimes even be bored for you to become creative. I wonder if that’s an oxymoron.

Monika Schaefer: Yes, you’re absolutely right! I’ll just tell you, the German word for “boredom” is “Langeweile”, which literally means “long while”.

So it’s a completely different meaning on that. And I love that.

But, you know what? We have a couple of callers on the line.

Kathleen: Yes.

Monika Schaefer: And let’s take Kathleen from Texas.

Hello, Kathleen, are you there?

Kathleen: Hey, Monika and Grace. A great show. And I called because I heard an author interviewed about ten years ago, maybe on RBN, and he wrote a book called the “440 Conspiracy”. And it was all about. I heard him interviewed several times. It was very interesting. And he had said many of the things you’re talking about, but he was talking about that 432 was actually what everybody played before the Rockefeller changed it to all the marching bands of the horns were all made with the 440. And it was unnerving, and it was very good to get people nervous and upset about going to war or something.

Monika Schaefer: Well, is that something? So that sounds like a good book. Grace Eki, are you familiar with that book?

Grace: No, I don’t know that book. So thank you.

Monika Schaefer: Who was the author, please?

Kathleen: I don’t know that. I don’t remember the author’s name, but it was called, The 440 Conspiracy.

Monika Schaefer: Okay, I’m gonna write that down and I’m gonna look that up. That’s great!

Kathleen: It was about ten years ago, so.

Monika Schaefer: Okay, thank you. Do you have any additional comments?

Kathleen: No, I love your show. I mean, I heard you for a long time before you had the show. And you just been great. So I’ve enjoyed every one. And thank you so much!

Monika Schaefer: Thank you so much, Kathleen, for your call.

[45:22]

Kathleen: Yes. Oh, I loved it when you said that you’re an ice skater in the wild. [chuckling]

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. [chuckling]

Kathleen: Wild skating. Oh, that’s so great.

And then all of your music, it’s wonderful! And, Grace, I really appreciated everything that you said, too.

Grace: Okay. So thank you so much!

Monika Schaefer: Well, thank you for your call. Okay. So, Mr producer, could we please have Nightingale on line three? Are you there?

Nightingale: Yes. Monika, can you hear me?

Monika Schaefer: Yes, we can. Thank you. Would you like to add a comment or question?

Nightingale: Thank you so much! I’m overjoyed to meet you. I want to say it’s an honor to meet such a brave, talented, honorable lady. Thank you so much! Just a fact that you play the music for your bumper music. I said, wow, RBM is getting classy. Fun! [chuckling] It was so beautiful! What a change. Usually I shut the bumpers off. Some of the host I listen to, I run to the phone and say:

“I don’t want to hear that!”

And I wait till the ads and the music are gone. [chuckling]

But with you, …

Monika Schaefer: That’s sweet of you. Thank you. Did you have any questions or comments for your guest, Grace Eki?

Nightingale: Yes, yes, I’m getting there. This has been fascinating! I just turned it on. Sometimes I listen live, sometimes it doesn’t work for me. I’m always on the cell phone, but sometimes it does a bit, and I turn it on just when your wonderful guest, her name is Grace. She’s been very, very personal to me. What I heard, very fascinating! She talked about a beautiful., … It was a beautiful anecdote. She thinks it’s from Mozart. That “music is painted on the canvas of silence”.

And I wanted to add that that is so beautiful, because it’s not just music, but it’s, I think, pretty much everything. Mystic experiences, the feeling of sacred is also. Everybody talks about it. All the mystics are on the, come out of silence. Even our myths of creation come out of silence. Things were “created by the word”, Elvero Incarnado, which is Spanish. What is it, the word incarnate? I don’t know if that’s that. But yeah, but it’s sound. Started creating the manifest world, I guess.

So this is very, very beautiful. And I heard many beautiful things. I heard the comment about spirituality, Rudolf Steiner ideas, spirituality developed later on.

But I have to say that I have to disagree with that a bit because I had, personally, some very mystical experiences. A very, very young child. And they did start going away. I totally agree with the over sexualization, because I think that’s when they started going away for me. Sex was just very much in my face with the world I lived in, my parents, and a lot of violence and jealousy! [chuckling] And it was always sad for me as a very young child.

But then when I hit puberty, I was very, very curious, and I did naughty things. You know, I wanted to see what this wonderful thing was. Right? And I learned that it wasn’t what it was touted to be. If love is not involved, if the falling in love, like you mentioned, but it can be a lot of fun. But it’s not falling in love. That’s a totally different thing.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

Nightingale: This has been very personal, what you were speaking of, because, yes, I had a, as a very young person before I was into sex, you might say, I had even incredible out of body experience, which I will always cherish. I hope that just before I die, I get there again, because it was like total unity.

I don’t know if you guys ever felt that, but the only experience I’ve ever had that I reserved the word “bliss” for. And it was just, it was just fascinating because I was totally not there. But you’re in everything when you exist, I guess, what people call a cosmic consciousness. And it was this overwhelming, powerful light that was so incredibly beautiful.

But then I was, it was going to annihilate me, which is a very mystery because I was not there, and yet I felt totally annihilation. And somewhere, I guess I was very young, somewhere in the body, I guess I wasn’t ready to go. And I was at the moment, so I realized that fear the root of all our issues, because it was fear that brought me back into the body. And then I felt so horrible to be back in the cave, and I just hated myself for being a coward! But someday maybe it’ll come back and I’ll be ready too.

Monika Schaefer: That’s an incredibly profound experience. Thank you for sharing that, Grace Aki, do you have any comments about it?

Nightingale: Well, it has a lot. Yes. It relates to everything you’re speaking of and I think I was lucky enough, even though I did have a very turmoil, not very happy household growing up. And yet my father did play classical music, and so I was imprinted with that. And it was the old vinyls, I must say! [chuckling]

And I think that is what, …

Monika Schaefer: Sorry, go ahead. Grace, did you want to comment on that.

Grace: Yes. That I wanted to say. I agree with her. You know, silence is the base of everything. And she was saying the Bible, I think. No, sorry the Testament in the beginning was the word, and word was “God”, but the word is “vibration with intent”. And I do kind of agree and with silence will show how important this intent and so-called vibration is, even more in the future.

And as speaking, I just wanted to make a comment as far as the frequency is concerned. You know those famous water crystals?

[51:52]

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

Grace: Photographed. Well, if it’s the ones I have seen anyway, at A 432, it actually makes a flower. At A 4040, it makes the outline. It’s different.

Monika Schaefer: Yes. And it scrambles it, doesn’t it? That’s what I’ve seen and heard.

Grace: Oh, it’s not as beautiful as 432. 432 definitely looks like a flower.

Monika Schaefer: Isn’t that something?

Grace: Yeah. Interesting!

Monika Schaefer: So, Nightingale, did you want to make a quick final comment? And then we’ll let you go, and I really appreciate that you called in and shared a your story with us. Yes, Nightingale.

Grace: Oh, perhaps she’s already gone.

Monika Schaefer: Okay, so let’s have John in New Hampshire, please. Are you there? Okay, yeah, that’s great! You see, this is such an interesting subject. I find it just fascinating! And the vibrations, the music, and then, of course, this. Go ahead.

John: Hello? Am I on?

Monika Schaefer: You are on. Is this John?

John: Right, right. Okay. Thanks a lot, ladies. That Grace perked me up because when she mentioned Verdi, I was born in the same province as Giuseppe Verdi, Parma. I was very, very happy to hear that. And I’m wondering maybe, hopefully, maybe I can get in touch with her. And I got some interesting stuff.

So maybe somehow we can get connected through you, Monika, or through the board. I don’t mean to be rude, but I also would like to see if I could get in touch with Kathleen from Texas. I’ve been trying to get in touch with her, too. So maybe through the board op or something. But if you could call back in, or I could leave my number or something like that.

But anyway, yeah, this is a very fascinating conversation. And that, Grace, you’re a pretty amazing, remarkable woman!

And, I mean, I love my Italian heritage and I love, … I was born in Parma, but I was only 14 months when I came to this country. But most of my relatives still live in Italy. So maybe we can get in touch or something like that. But anyway. Okay, see what you can do.

Monika Schaefer: Okay, I’ll just tell you how you can get in touch with me. My email address is posted on RBN. If you go to the host the page where they have my brief bio and that kind of thing. There is a, an email address posted there. Okay. So you could get in touch with me and then I could send your, I’ll get you connected with Grace.

John: Okay, I appreciate that. Do you think that would be a good way to get in touch with Kathleen from Texas?

Monika Schaefer: I have no idea. You’ll have to perhaps take that up with the producer. [chuckling]

John: Okay, great!

Monika Schaefer: So, yeah, and if you have a brief comment, final comment, because we have a couple of more callers on the line.

John: No, no, no, I’ll go, I’ll defer to them.

Monika Schaefer: So if that was John, thank you so much for your call. We have John from California.

Another John, are you there?

John: Yeah. So 528. I don’t know what, you know, about it. Good frequency or bad frequency?

Monika Schaefer: I don’t know. That’s a good question. Grace Eki, do you know, this 528?

Grace: I think it’s like you. Continue. I think it’s just a, C higher.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, I don’t know. I think I’ve heard things about it that are actually kind of terrifying about it, but I don’t know. I’m not sure. [chuckling] What do you know, about it, John?

John: Yes, well, I don’t know a lot about it. I know that it’s titled. There’s a guest, I won’t use names that comes on this RBN that claims it to be a love frequency. But I’ve heard from others that it’s a not so much.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. This is something we’re gonna have to do some more research on. Maybe the next caller will know. [chuckling]

Grace: But let me add that everything has a plus and a minus, the yin and the yang. So something that’s positive in one sense is possible, that it’s very, quite negative in another sense. But I’ve heard of this number. I think it was just, 2056 that you keep on going higher up. But I could be wrong.

Monika Schaefer: Okay. John, did you have anything like to add?

John: Well, yeah, I don’t know a lot about it. Supposedly it’s called Esophageal [sp]. I don’t know if I pronounced it correctly, which was something that was kind of in Rome, they had this thing kind of under wraps for a long time. And supposedly someone got a hold of this following. It’s supposed to come from the Bible and, …

Anyway, I just wondered what you knew about it. But thank you very much. Great show.

Monika Schaefer: Okay. Thank you for your call. Let’s take Chris from Alabama. And we really literally have just, 20 seconds left or so. chris, are you there?

Chris: Yeah. Hi, Monika. Sometimes when I have more time. I’m Chris from Alabama. I moved here from California along. I live in California. Born there in 57, married a Canadian woman in 88, and she’s lived in the United States for all this time. We’ve been to Canada many times. British Columbia.

Monika Schaefer: Did you have something for our guests?

Chris: That book is called The 440 Enigma, and it’s basically trying to blame the 440 frequency on a collaboration between the Rockefellers and the Nazis. And it has a swastika on the cover of it. And like everything else, they want to blame everything on the Nazis! I’m just adding that right now.

Monika Schaefer: Ha! Thanks for that. It does sound like we know that they’re lying to us about who are the “Nazis”, quote, unquote, and what they did and all that stuff. So that’s a little bit suspect, isn’t it? And the producer did write in the notes. Maybe it’s The 440 Enigma by LC Vincent.

Grace. Do you have a final comment? Just while the music is taking us out?

Chris: It’s a pleasure listening to you.

Grace: Yes. I wanted to say that, remember that your voice is the free gift of so-called God and nature, an instrument you already have inside and so is your body. And I think it’s in our DNA to love, to dance and sing, and it should help one when one that’s not really so happy. Thank you.

Monika Schaefer: Beautiful! Thank you for being my guest, and thank you to all the callers. Thank you very much.

Monika Schaefer: And thank you to the producer, too. Awesome job!

Grace: Thank you.

Monika Schaefer: Keeping everybody straight. Okay, bye bye.

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Thomas Sewell

Messiah or Caeser

Thu, Jul 25, 2024

[In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activist, founder of NSN, Tom Sewell discusses the following:

• Personal relationships with God and different religious perspectives.
• Everyone has their own concept of God or something they worship.
• Explores the idea of personalizing God and its implications.
• Discussion of different forms of worship, from monotheism to paganism.
• Exploration of the concept of ancestral gods and their influence on national identity.
• The speaker importance of having a national god for a country’s survival.
• The relationship between parents and children as a reflection of divine relationships.
• The concept of mutation and its role in evolution and societal change.
• Exploration of the balance between good and evil in society and personal growth.
• The challenges of creating a safe and healthy environment for women and children.
• The importance of masculine energy in protecting society.
• Exploration of the concept of “blood and honor” as a motto and its significance.
• The differences between Roman and Germanic principles in society building.
• The importance of understanding and channeling one’s inner child.
• Exploration of the concept of the “coming man” or messiah figure in different cultures.
• Donald Trump’s role in current politics and his limitations.
• The importance of taking power before theorizing about solutions.
• Exploration of the concept of putting the jews on trial for their actions.
• The importance of using one’s voice to effect change.
• The challenges of building and maintaining a White nationalist organization.
• The concept of cultural weight and its importance in group dynamics.
• Discussion of the importance of having the right caliber of men in an organization.
• The challenges of managing different personality types within a group.
• Exploration of the concept of healthy ego and its role in leadership.
• The importance of understanding human psychology in political strategy.
• The need to address fundamental societal issues rather than just symptoms.
• Exploration of the concept of creating a healthy environment for women and children.
• The importance of understanding primal instincts in political strategy.
• The need to balance freedom and authority in society.
• Exploration of the concept of power and its relationship to freedom.
• Discussion of different approaches to explaining the worldview to “normies”.
• The importance of getting people to notice societal issues.
• Exploration of the concept of making arguments from a position of strength.
• Discussion of Hitler’s vegetarianism and its place in National Socialist ideology.
• The challenges of interpreting historical figures’ actions and words.
• Exploration of the concept of schisms in ideological movements.
• The importance of understanding and addressing female anxiety in society.
• The need to create a multi-generational organization.
• Exploration of the concept of using the voice to channel the “Aryan spirit”.
• The importance of consistency and faith in building a movement.

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Testing, one, two, three, testing. Just waiting for that to come through. Yeah, awesome! That’s coming through just fine. About a two second delay.

So I haven’t done a stream in some time. I’ve been very busy with a few things and the thoughts that have been going through my mind recently, especially on the long drives to and from work, I’ve been thinking about my personal relationship with Goddesse. So I hear religious people speak like this and I think I’m grasping at a similar idea but from a very different angle. And that is personalizing God. Not saying that you as an individual God, I’m not saying that. But this idea that we all have our own goddess and I’ve never actually met a true atheist in the sense that they don’t have some sort of deep conviction. And not that God is a conviction, that’s not what I’m saying. But that we all worship something. In many cases we worship lots of things.

And sometimes we worship a goddess universally or in its singular form, but often we can interpret or worship God in many forms.

And then obviously that blurs the lines between monotheism and Paganism because some forms of worshipping are more, not necessary, diluted, but they are compartmentalised into these archetypes or these downstream forces from a singular God.

And then of course you have people so far detached from that where they don’t even worship the God anymore. They don’t even worship the downstream force. That’s like a sub God that represents God or is a part of God. They don’t even worship that anymore. They more or less follow the routines religiously of the downstream faith. And that could be something like afl I’ve covered in the past. Or football, sports, ball, how people obsess over soccer, soccer, football, AFL, rugby, whatever you want to call all these ball sports. They’re all downstream of the temple of Mars or the temple of Tyr Thor. There’s always this upward, sharp, masculine force and there’s always ways of embodying that force. And that’s usually through a tribe that really believes and understands in its thumos or in its tier or in its Mars, a tribe that understands that part of itself, that that’s part of its collective unconsciousness, that it’s part of its existence, that it’s not a larp, that it is innate to its will. A tribe that has this strong energy, this strong focus will always have these outward displays of masculinity through sport. And that’s obviously extremely spiritual. That’s more or less one step removed from total God. If there’s a God of gods, that’s only one step removed from that.

So it’s quite a holy and spiritual thing. So when the non-Whites, Shitsa Aussies, they say:

“Oh all you care about is football and meat pies.”

Well, it’s like they’re summarizing our Paganism quite clearly, that the average Aussie puts this stuff. Most importantly, the average Aussie doesn’t just put these things, but puts material things, material things more important than God. They consider themselves atheists or agnostics. They don’t go to church, they don’t know who Yahweh is. The average Australian does not know who Yahweh is and therefore cannot recognise Yahweh as being their ancestral God or being their God, however you want to look at it.

So everyone has a highest form that they’re aspiring to be or that they’re interested in, and no one thing is God. That’s a false way of looking at this conversation.

The idea that we can continue on this path, though, where our nation doesn’t have a total God force without that, and without recognizing that and understanding that the nation dies. So every nation that wishes to exist as a nation has a God. A kind of funny way of putting it is if you’re in Croatia, then God is Croatian. If you’re in Korea, then God is Korean. You’ll notice that the Korean Presbyterians will make, like, Korean Jesus. They’ll have like, a Korean Yahweh, or a Korean Jesus.

So when you adopt universalistic or world religions, when you adopt these things, it’s the most innate thing for any tribe of people that wishes to survive. To do is to imprint its ancestral God on top of the universalistic God. You know, if you ask any religious people, they will always believe Muslims get really offended when you say Muhammad had, you know, he had light eyes and light hair. He potentially was blonde hair, blue eyed. He at least had a red beard. And Muslims get really angry at that because the average Arab doesn’t look like that. And they actually get not just deeply offended because, you’re talking about their prophet and they don’t like that, but also it hurts them at a deeper level because it means they’re actually not like their God and they’re not even moving in the right direction of their God unless they’re forming, like, a rape gang and being transported across the Mediterranean into Europe in order to steal more European DNA, like a giant rape gang, which is basically what Muhammadism is. It’s a giant rape gang. It’s the world’s biggest rape gang!

It’s why we have to defeat it, because they don’t have the, they’re not made of The Right Stuff. They don’t have the stuff we have in our DNA. They’re not carrying it’s been either, either. They never carried it. Well, they’re a hybridisation of those that carried it and lost it and those that never carried it.

And so we’re carrying something. And what we’re carrying is the seed of God. Whether you’re Christian, pagan, agnostic, doesn’t matter. What we’re carrying is the seed of God. That’s a fact. That’s not debatable. That’s not a pagan statement, or a Christian statement. That’s a fact. So in recognizing that, then whose seed are you? Then you can work out what God you have. So it’s sort of a chicken and egg situation. You know, when I first met Tim Lutz, when I first met Tim Lutz, I asked him why he didn’t have more children.

And I think that was the first thing I asked him.

And then the second thing I asked him was, one of the second things that I asked him was about his belief in Goddesse. Does he believe in God? And he said to me that he doesn’t know. He doesn’t know anything about a God, but what he knows is that his children are God. And that in his way of looking at it, in his experience raising children as a young man, very young, Tim had his first group of children when he was very young.

So this is when he’s in his forming philosophical years. In your twenties, you’re really forming the philosophy of life between, I guess, 20 and, 208. There’s a, that’s like the last quarter of your mental maturity. After 28, most people don’t change much. You kind of set in your ways the path. You kind of decided between 20 and, 208.

That’s why it’s so important. This formative years, obviously, these years. This is sort of Steiner school stuff.

But anyway, I’ll get back on topic. So to be raising, most of us aren’t raising children in our twenties. Most of us don’t have children until like older than 28. But Tim’s one of the only guys I know that’s, that went through that whole period raising kids and his relationship with his kids.

The first thing he thought about when he thought about godliness or God was his children. And that’s really interesting because I had never said that I never repeated that to Beckley.

And the other day, she was saying to me how sometimes she looks at Luna, like, not to sound ridiculous, but like, it’s a God. And I don’t want people taking this out of context. Like this is some sort of wacky Paganism where we’re, like, saying that. Saying that the whole universe’s creator is like in the soul of a single child. Obviously, that’s, like a crucial metaphor. A lot of religions have this and play on this and there’s a lot of Buddhist stuff in here, but also there’s stuff in all sorts of universal religions about the purity of a child’s soul, and that in the purity of a child’s soul, you’re almost responsible for God as a parent. It’s this whole new set of responsibilities and this whole new interpretation with the universe. It’s a different relationship with the universe. It’s a different relationship with the spiritual. And because you’re dealing with a creature, this baby, this version of you, that’s superior in every single fundamental way, that’s not materially. It’s even more superior to you in a lot of material ways, obviously, just hasn’t developed yet.

So it could be corrupted and put in the wrong direction, or it could be made as perfect as you could possibly make it.

And so that’s obviously one of your core principles as a parenthood, being the father to the Son.

So there’s a especially in Christian theology, there’s this idea of the Father and the Son. There’s Yahweh and Jesus, but it’s one and the same. There’s the Holy Spirit, and it’s this. I know not everyone’s a trinitarian. I’m not a trinitarian, but I understand what it’s trying to say. I think it’s a very clever, even though I don’t subscribe to that form of religion or Christianity, that’s a very, very clever way of explaining how there are these multitudes of forces that God acts through. And so God acts through the son and the father. Or there’s this obviously, separation of two primary forces, that being the sky father and that being the earth mother.

So this idea that women are a grounded, grounded force, like a womb or an egg, or a ball, a sphere, an earth, a plane, whatever you want to its a healthy environment. That’s what they’re meant to represent, a healthy environment.

And then you have, obviously, the sky father. The seed in the Bible or son of Odin or whether you’re pagan or Christian, we all agree that we come from the seed of God. And it’s a masculine force. It has different. It can be harsh, it can be cruel, it. But that’s not its purpose. Its purpose is it. It is struggle, it is hardship, it is strength, it is honour, it is all these kind of masculine forces and masculine energy. So we can immediately start seeing these two different energies playing out.

And so, obviously, as a father, you have an interesting relationship with your children, and as a mother, you have a different relationship to the father. And that puts two God forces or two separations of the God force onto the singular being, the singular life form that’s come from the mother and father.

So this idea of if we come from God, if we can come from one, what does. When two creates one, how does that reflect that relationship? How does it go back? How does one become two and two become one and one become two and two become one?

And I’m not getting into trannies or transvestites or anything like this. Obviously, there’s distortions of this relationship. There’s a distortion of the intermingling of the DNA. There’s a distortion. There’s bad practice, bad breeding practice. There’s bad coupling. There’s bad relationships. And when it’s not fused correctly, one into two and two into one. And this process, ad infinitum, you end up with these inversions and distortions and mutations. Mutation is an important part of evolution.

Regardless of whether you’re Darwinian or not. Mutation is key to evolution. And mutation and struggle work together to create evolution.

But what the factor of mutation is schism, and that it doesn’t always mutate correctly. It doesn’t always mutate on the straight and narrow. There’s inversions and distortions of reality.

So when people need to consider, it’s not all. This is sort of a bit Nietzsche and like a bit Beyond Good and Evil. Sometimes to understand an idea, you have to. You can only understand it in its form. That’s beyond placing good and evil on it. Not everything is in that. In the black and white, there are things that you can look at from black and white. Absolutely! But you also need to look at symbolism as well. Symbolism is important.

And an example of this is looking at. I’m not. Yeah, there’s obviously demons and there’s angels.

There’s obviously higher God forces or lighter good forces. And there’s obviously evil. Evil obviously exists. And it’s not that we need evil for good to exist. I don’t believe in that it’s just that for the organism to go beyond material, it has to be fighting constantly. It has to be fighting these forces. So whether it’s looking at society as a whole, whether you’re looking at children, raising a child and planning out the society that you want to build, are kind of the same thing.

And so in a society, there are people that make mistakes. I’m trying to give you a practical example of what I was just explaining about the presence of evil and the presence of good and their antagonism and the area where there’s in between and how to deal and manage with evil that exists. So in a society that we’re managing, vice exists, for example. There are always people that are going to want to schism away from the straight and arrow. There are people who want to try this method out or that method. They want to make their own mistakes. They might know that conventional wisdom says that this is bad and not to do it. Like, you know, for thousands of years, we didn’t let women vote, and then we decided to let women vote.

And so for thousands of years, the conventional wisdom was, this is not something that needs to be challenged or addressed or subject to.

And then in a very short period of time, we let women vote. That’s quite an interesting phenomenon that a lot of people reflect on, and it’s important to reflect on, because we let women make their own mistakes.

Now, that’s not really against natural law. If we create a healthy environment, and I don’t want people saying, Tom thinks that women should vote, or Tom thinks that not letting women vote is a bad idea, that’s not the path I’m going down. I’m just using it as merely an example to illustrate what if we never let women vote? What if we never had liberalism? What if we never had anarchy or chaos? How would we know how to course correct?

So when we’re dealing with the mistakes that women make, and then women can’t take personal responsibility for the mistakes they’re making, this is just a philosophical truth. Women will blame men. They’ve made these mistakes. They’ve, you know, begged or demanded that they have the right to vote. They’ve voted for all these Left-wing policies in 99% of cases. I think there’s only one instance where I think White women on the whole vote for Donald Trump, which we’ll get into later.

But obviously, Donald Trump is not anywhere near what he should be.

And the fact that that’s even an option is because women have been given the right to vote. So they’ll vote for maybe the slightly more Right-wing of the two. But that’s only because Donald Trump has been fundamentally longhoused by jews and by a feminine society, a liberal society. He is a liberal. But yes, where I’m going with this is you have two choices. You make a society that’s like a Garden of Eden, that’s walled, that keeps all the bad out, and you let women make their own mistake, or you let children make their own mistakes. You let women and children make their own mistakes. It’s like the forest people. You live in the forest, or you live in the Garden of Eden, in this kind of land that’s safe and hospitable, where Mother Nature rules, where there’s a very strong female creative energy, where there’s a strong childlike energy, where this is a safe and healthy environment for people to make mistakes, for people to trip and fall over.

And ultimately, it’s all eugenic. If you can’t live in the forest, if you’re not good at living in the forest, if you don’t fit in with that nurturing earth, then, well, maybe you should live in the forest now that can only exist with the masculine energy around it, with the walls, with the protection, with sharp sticks pointing outwards. So when women are making really stupid mistakes politically, and when women, for example, in recent news, just yesterday, I saw on the news that an Australian woman, I’m assuming that means a White woman, has travelled over to Paris for the Olympics and she just got gang raped by five Africans. And it’s rare that this is in the news because normally stuff like this happens and they just kind of wash it under, put under the rugged.

But in this case, they actually, it’s made the news here. It’s gone viral. And we all can see as men that are politically intelligent, that that is a pretty fucking stupid move to make. That’s like the most idiotic woman thing to do, to travel solo to these former nations like France or Germany or whatever, and think that you’re going to be safe, like thinking that you live in this world of multicultural utopia. It’s just absolutely insane and delusional. The real, the reality of living in this excuse of a society is an increase in things like this, an increased risk of getting gang raped. Just walking down the street as a woman, you would think that would turn all women into Nazis overnight. Now it turns them a little bit more. And it turns men a little bit more. Absolutely! Okay, we got to deal with this problem. We got a, all right, we’ve got a lack of sharp sticks. You know, we’ve tried this forest thing. We’ve tried this. Hey, let’s just make a nice, happy, healthy environment. And the kids you know, fall over and scrape their knee and then climb trees.

But overall, they’re safe. You know, people can make their own mistakes. Oh, look. Oh, they did drugs. Oh, but they’ve come good, and they’ve got a good career now. It’s like people can make their own mistakes and just move forward. It’s like, no, what we’ve created, well, we don’t know. We’re not even in charge of this anymore. The jews have come in and they’ve just set up horrible traps everywhere. They’ve just set up a huge amount of environmental stress and pressure, an unnecessary amount.

The only thing that the amount of stress is necessary for is to develop the correct consciousness and strength to remove the people that are putting you under that much of a stress of a threat. So when women make these clear and obvious mistakes, their naivety and the public’s, the masses naivety is Beyond Good and Evil. You see, it’s a childlikeness that’s meant to force the men of the society to stand up and just make the decisions for people, because we’ve had too long where we all sit there and talk about what decisions are going to be made of, instead of the men just being in charge and just making the decisions. And women are actually at a subconscious level begging men and likewise weak, anxiety ridden, sort of Leftoid communist men are begging for the strong men to actually stand up and make the right decisions because they’re only communists. They’re only these weak little freaks and faggots and everything else. They’re only like this because they’re being poisoned. They’re being poisoned. They’re subject now to this weak environment, and they’re, and even if at a conscious level, they’ll nip at your heels, though. Crabs in a bucket, you know, they’re obviously sick and demented. They’re kind of dying. Not all of them, but most of them, most of them are going down into the hole together.

Now, obviously, we’re not going to get sucked into it with them. You know, they’re all going in the bin. It’s all genetic waste, unfortunately, or like 99% of it is genetic waste. Only a very, very small group of people are going to get out of the rip before it implodes. That are in there that are already involved. If you’re already on the outside of that rip, you know, we’re swimming to safety.

But yeah, it’s self correcting. The earth is self correct, self correcting. And you have to consider that when you’re dealing with either a child, or a woman making their own mistakes, or whether you’re dealing with something that is inherently corrupted and can’t help itself. And does it really matter whether they can help themselves or not?

And that kind of takes me into the second question or the second part of this conversation, and that is a lot of people will FED post, actually, I have a pause first. I have a pause. Yeah, awesome! Okay, jet’s actually pretty up to speed once.

So the second part of this is you can theorize. Resolving hypotheticals in the short and intermediate term, you can theorize, okay, we’re going to cross these obstacles. What do we do?

And I think it’s very important for a movement, very important for its leaders. It’s important for anyone to have forethought and foreplanning, but often in that you can get caught in the traps of analysis, paralysis, you can get caught in the traps of ideas Manning. You can get caught in the traps of theorizing everything without any practice, without any action. And thought should always precede action, but you can’t have thought alone. And some people even get caught so deep in the question, and maybe I’m guilty of this myself, but there is a jewish question, for example, and people that aren’t initiated on the jewish question, people that don’t understand the jewish question, they immediately, when they hear it, they immediately jump to the Holocaust. And what they want to know as a kind of NPC, as you bring up the jewish question, what they want to know is Holocaust good or bad? Just straight away they’re just like, okay, is he coming at this? Is he bringing up the jewish question from the perspective that the Holocaust was bad, or is he coming at it from the idea that the Holocaust was good? And that’s like the immediate input code that they want.

And then when they’ve got that, let’s say you say Holocaust good, then immediately everything you say after that doesn’t matter.

And if you say Holocaust bad, they’re still sceptical. Then they’re like, okay, so what? So you hate jews? Do you hate jews?

So they’ve kind of been trained, they’ve been put under a spell, quite conveniently to the spell is very complex when you think about when you break down this idea. That as soon as you bring up a very important question, probably the most fundamental question, or at least the second most fundamental question, after knowing thyself, knowing thy enemy. So knowing thy enemy, knowing what the jews have been up to for thousands of years and how they’re continuing to behave, it’s an absolutely crucial, fundamental question.

But most people ignore its crucialness and its fundamentality because they have actually been given a pre-record download in their brain. And this plays out with almost every single person that you bring up the jewish question to. For now, although that number is dwindling massively! I remember ten years ago, it was basically every person I’d ever met.

And then you randomly meet one person that doesn’t run you through the NPC log, and they’ve actually got an open mind, and we’ll actually talk about the jewish question with you’re like, this guy is obviously a Nazi like me. How the hell does this guy know about the question? How does it. How is this guy able to rationalise the JQ?

And so you’re merely like, whoa, I found another one out there in the Wilderness, in the forest. But the I would say that it’s a much larger percentage. I can’t give you an exact percentage, but if it’s like, if it used to be one in a hundred people you talk to about this now, it’s probably probably one in three, I would say. I’d say probably one in three. And it’s almost regardless of age, I do think younger people are better. Older people are a lot. They know about it. They actually do know about it, but they’re a lot more scared to talk about it’s a much more of a social faux pas. They’ve kind of got that. I think the boomers are kind of got that aristocratic French anti-semitism where the idea was that it’s only for closed. It’s not for open discussion, it’s just for the aristocrats should know what’s going on. But the public don’t really need to know. It’s not something you really talk about lightly or in public.

Whereas I believe. I don’t believe in that kind of anti-semitism. I believe it’s something that should be spoken about publicly. I believe it’s something that should be spoken about regularly for the root, for the purpose of solving the question. So where people can get caught up in this question is they start looking at solutions that they can’t employ. That’s one of the most important things that I want to warn people against, where you talk about how we’re going to resolve the problem before we’ve taken power, because no matter what, however long the jewish conversation goes for the jewish question, no matter how long that conversation goes for, there’s two different ultimatums that you can reach. There’s an ultimatum where you’re talking about the Holocaust or not, or there’s an ultimatum where it’s, are we going to take power, or are we going to be just subject to the jewish question?

So I prefer people to go down the path of thinking about how do we take power, or we choose taking power over being subjected, over being enslaved to this question. So it’s not, let’s not talk about our slavery, or let’s only talk about our slavery in the Right circles. It’s let’s openly talk about our slavery so that we can no longer be enslaved. Because if we allow ourselves to be enslaved for much longer, we’re going to die collectively as a race.

So they’re leading us to the slaughter. They’ve got a very long term vision of that it’s not like next year.

And that’s why, I guess, a lot of people don’t understand how much has changed over 100 years. But the next hundred will continue going down the same path unless we revolt, unless we take back our countries from jewish rule, the jewish oligarchy. Now there are so many jewish questions, and people always want to know what I think about the what is the punishment? What should the punishment be for jewish behaviour? And we can’t really theorize that, and we can’t put that into practice either, just yet. What we need to focus on is taking power. And when we’ve taken power, then, and only then, can we then properly theorize an action, a punishment for how they’ve behaved.

So I guess when you’re asked this question about the Holocaust or not the Holocaust, or about what should you know, do you hate jews? Do you not hate jews? When you bring up the jewish question and someone takes serious offence to that, in my opinion, the conversation should go like this. What have the jews done? Have we got all the facts? We should investigate everything that the jews have done, and we should put them on trial, and they should defend themselves. They should be able to defend themselves, and we will put them on trial and let that judgement move forward, because until we’ve done that, how can we resolve anti-semitism if there is all these issues with anti-semitism? It’s like, why don’t we go to trial. Why don’t we go to judgement? Because the jews love judges. But this is where the question of Messiah or Caesar comes down. Who will be the judge? Will it be a jewish messiah or will it be a Caesar? Or will it be a Christ, 20.0? Or will it be a Hitler 2.0? Who will it be? Who will be the judge?

What Hitler’s instructions were to us was to fight for becoming man. Because the coming man, actually the one that’s strong enough to wield that question, the coming man is the one that’s strong enough to pull that sword from the stone. When the coming man pulls the sword from the stone, when the coming man can make judgement on this question, it is because everything has been exposed. It has to go to trial first.

Now, I suggest that it would be, and I know this is already in the hive mind, the idea that it would be a Nuremberg 2.0, but the jews need to be put on trial. I’m not going to say, and I’m not the comment. No one is to say, in my opinion. There are people that already say guilty. Everyone says guilty, guilty, guilty. You’re probably right.

Now, there are obviously people that are kind of less extreme. There are people within the conservative sections that are starting to touch on the jewish question. You know, I notice Tucker Carlson recently addressed AIPAC and addressed the Schofield Bible and addressed nefarious, offensive, subversive behaviour coming from people that happen to be jewish. How many lives have been lost because of AIPAC? How many lives have been lost? How many people are these jewish organisations responsible for killing, assassination, torture? You know, just all the wars in the Middle East, for example. I’m not crying over dead Hajis, but just to make a case against the jews. There is a case against them. This is clear. Everyone knows this. That’s not even touching on reserve fractional banking.

You know, the Rothschilds, the banking cartels, the Federal Reserve, usury, interest, the enslavement. Everyone’s got a mortgage to pay the jews. You’re not paying the government. Who’s getting the money? Who’s making the money? The jews. It’s going to the elite jews, the people behind the jewish power lobbies. What about Wall Street? That’s just one giant jewish casino. And the casino, the house always wins. And the house controls the house. You know, it controls government. You know, the big jewish house controls the well, the little jewish house controls the big, you know, American house.

So that’s something to consider. You know, that they’ve got this giant mafiosa scheme running out of Wall Street. You know, how many years would it take to go through and actually find all the corruption? Because we know it’s corrupt. We know. But to actually prove it, to actually pull apart every conspiracy that the jews have done, let’s say, in recent history, let’s not. We could make a case going back 3,000 years. Absolutely!

But let’s just do like a ten year case. If you did a ten year case and managed to articulate that, I mean, how long does it take to go from being sick of hearing anti-semitic comments to being sick of jewish crime? You know, how long does it take to go from being sick of hearing the word nigger to being sick of niggers? Like, you know how much time does it take?

Now obviously, we’re all at different limits. We’ve all reached. We’ve all got different limits. And you’re all here because you’ve reached your limit. Your tolerance has reached its limit for jewish lies, jewish conspiracy. You know, what they’re working towards, what they’re building towards and how they’re treating the area, how they’re treating us.

So that’s important to consider. But you cannot, you as an individual, you’re not actually making the call. The person that’s making the call, the coming man, the one that’s actually making the decision in time, is doing it alone. I’ll tell you that you actually cannot influence the one that will make that decision. Whatever you want to call the messiah, the coming man, the Aryan, the Christ, the antichrist, Hitler 2.0, whatever you’re calling Kalki, whatever you want to call them, you actually can’t influence that person. That person can only wield the sword alone. You know, they won’t do it or not do it because of what you say. So it’s obviously something that people are pretty confident about in our circles as to what should happen. And it gets exciting to think about justice for our people, considering what the jews have done to us.

But let’s redirect the majority of that energy into actually getting to the judgement. Let’s actually get to the judgement. Because if we don’t build enough power, if we don’t build enough White power, when that judgement happens, we’re going to be powerless.

So let’s get into a powerful position in order to assist that judgement taking place. And it will be fair. It will be fair and kind. The coming man is fair and kind. I assure you that’s an important trait. So that ties in. That ties in because it’s a triumph of the will, and it’s all about personal wills and the collective unconsciousness. The collective God lives inside of the White race. It lives inside of us. It’s our ancestral goddess. It’s an energy that we’re devoted to, and we are a devotion of it. And when we’re working towards something in a collective spirit, in a collective will, it’s being driven from behind through the strength of an ancestral God for our survival. And that ancestral God is a life force itself that’s gotten us to this point, that’s gotten us as far as we’ve gone. And there’s more to go.

Regardless of whether you believe we’ve fallen at some stage, because obviously we have. Things ebb and flow. We’ve obviously fallen from a higher point. We clearly had a higher point previously. And we’re on prison planet or something. We’re in a test. We’re in some sort of survival moment where we’re putting them not as healthy environment potentially, to what we’ve built in the past or where we’ve come from.

Regardless what we’re working towards, this higher being, we can see within ourselves how much of ourselves is being given to that higher being and how much is being given to other gods. And some of these gods aren’t gods. Some of these gods are demons. How much of yourself are you giving to demons? How much of yourself are you giving to these lower forces? When you give energy to these lower forces, it strengthens those forces. It strengthens that collective will.

And then that collective will defeats our survival. Collective will, our ancestral God. So we are whole and we are parts. And likewise a God. Energy is at whole and is at parts and is fighting itself the way we are fighting ourself. I’ll just take a pause.

So who is my God? Or who is your God? Who is your God? Because it has to be purer than you. It has to be stronger than you. But not just physically, beyond physically. It is a creature capable of higher self control, higher discipline, higher restraint, higher moral strength. This creature has to balance.

Of course, being aristocratic in the sense that is, the more purer your spirit, the more you’re kind of disgusted by impurity. But disgust as an emotion has many different forms. Sometimes it has the form of pity. Sometimes it has the form of hate. These are the two most common male and female versions of disgust as an emotion. Women, when they see something disgusting, often they’ll have pity for them. Men, when they see something disgusting, they hate like men hate faggots because they’re disgusting! But women, they kind of have pity on them. So but this is both a disgust reaction and that’s aristocratic, to have a disgust response. If you don’t have a disgust response, you’re going to get along with Indians. You know, you’re going to eat off the floor. You’re going to do all these things that Indians do because Indians have lost their disgust response in a lot of ways. And different races just have different levels of disgust response and special into kind of different areas that are probably about intergenerational survival. So.

But how do you do that without being a snob? And this comes to the elitist versus folkish principle. So God, your God, if you’re a National Socialist, has understood the balance between the aristocratic soul but without the snobbery and how to affect that within the individual psyche and within the collective psyche, because there has to be is God alone? Well, no, that’s another important.

A lot of people think that God’s alone. Yeah. No, no, because God needs us. This is another Aryan concept. This is understood by Aryans. God needs us. Yeah. It’s not, it’s not. The dependent is the wrong word. It’s not about dependence or independence. It’s this idea that it’s one and the same, that it’s a reflection.

So, yeah, that’s why you should take it seriously. The spawn of goddess.

But obviously, there’s a lot of factors that you can assess within the ideal, within the ideal man, within the ideal God. Because when you read about a God, when you learn about a God and you learn about what it does and how it behaves, that does define whether you become a follower of that God, whether you identify with that God, whether you’re a become integrated with that God. So, especially if the God is claiming to be perfect.

And so this is an interesting philosophical point, especially between Christianity and Paganism. Pagans can recognise that the gods are not perfect, whereas Christians have to accept that God is perfect.

So when you’re reading about Yahweh, and Yahweh clearly does something that you don’t agree with fundamentally, at your core, it’s not like a slight disagreement. It’s that at your essence and at Yahweh’s essence, there is a disagreement, a core disagreement. You have two options. You have only two options at that point. You, because you can’t. Let’s say, in this hypothetical, you cannot change your core disagreement, no matter how much you try to want to accept it, because you want to accept the whole package, and you want to understand that element. Or maybe there’s multiple elements, and you need to understand why at that element. Why is that a crossroads that you can’t pass? And I covered this, for example, on the previous stream that I did called the messiah or Messiah complex, where I didn’t talk about how leaders have messiah complexes, but I talked about how followers have messiah complexes. And the idea that I’ve lost a lot of men in my organisation because I’m not perfect. So I’ve lost Mendez, mostly Christians, because I’m not perfect, sometimes because I’m not Christian, but sometimes that means the same thing to them. So I’ve lost pagans as well, and I’ve lost a lot of agnostics and a lot of atheists or people that have never really articulated a spiritual belief other than, oh, my mum goes to church or something.

And then they kind of just talk more about worldview when you’re getting to know them or when you’re vetting them. But these people that I’ve lost, most of them, it’s been a personal.

There’s been a personal element to it that if Tom was better or stronger or this or that or whatever it was, then I would join him, or then I would stay involved, or then I would get involved. And that who I am as an individual is 100% reflective of the trajectory of where we’re going now. That could be true, that could be correct, and that would rely on all fascism, all National Socialism in order for it to be successful. To rely almost entirely on a cult of personality, which I am not super interested in. I think a little bit is healthy for any sort of organisation, community. I mean, when you’ve got a captain, like a footy captain in your team, there’s got to be a little bit of a cult of personality around your footy captain. It’s not like a 100% cult of personality, but it’s like a 10%. It’s like everyone’s like, he’s the guy. He’s the man. He’s the captain. And that’s a natural, innate. You want to have a certain amount of pride in the man that you’re calling your leader or your captain on the football team or your coach. You want to have this pride in your coach. You have this pride in your captain. And that’s kind of what I am I don’t look at myself as being this other kind of creature that’s much, much, much further down the road and a result of being born at the right time and being born at The Right Stuff, which time and stuff will tell. But at this stage, I see myself as that.

And I think it’s important for leaders to see themselves as that. And not every leader is a potential goddess. I know that sounds really rational, that we have to put it like that, but that is one of the breakdowns of White nationalism growing. One of the breakdowns is men hold the guy that’s one rung above them or two rungs above them or three rungs above them. They view these men as being the demigods that are going to save us from. It’s going to be the reincarnation of Hitler or Khalki. They’re looking for some. There are people that I think they don’t have. I think it’s just a maturity thing. I think when you’re young, you’re quicker to idolize, and maybe when you’re older, you’re quicker to be pessimistic or sort of shut down and be critical of people when you meet them.

A lot of people like that, when they become jaded and older. When you’re younger, you’re usually a bit pure. And you’re not looking for mistakes, you’re looking for the positives. People and mistakes, they pile up over time.

So that’s an important, that comes back to the Messiah complex. And then if we peel back from the Messiah complex, we can get into these. The difference between the Messiah and Caesar. So Caesar or Kaiser, the King of Kingsley, the emperor, however you want to put it, is a different character to the Messiah. They’re both. Everyone’s looking for this character in general, as I said before, some people are looking for the Messiah, some people are looking for Caesar, some people are looking for Trump. Some people are looking for Hitler, some people are looking for Christ, some people are looking for Muhammad. There’s obviously, the Chinese are always looking for a strong mandeh. They racially need a strongman. The Indians need a strongman of types. And there’s all these different types of front men or strongmen or spiritual leaders or religious leaders. There’s many different archetypes. There’s many different types of these. And you’re going to want the one that more closely resembles some sort of archetype of the chosen man on earth. From your version of what you think the chosen man on earth should be, like, Muhammadism is this idea. You know, Islam is this idea that fundamentally, at its core, that Muhammad is the perfect man, that he’s chosen by God to be the perfect man. God gave him this grace and power and pussy all these women and all these battles and all these victories, he got given all these things because he lived the perfect life. He was the perfect man. He was the chosen one, basically.

And so the more you live this guy, the more you understand what this guy was about, the more you devote yourself to him. And obviously, as the messenger for Allah, then obviously the better your life’s going to be. The more power you’re going to have, the more money you’re going to have, the more bitches you’re going to have. It’s like when Andrew Tate converted, it was just like, really? Is that, like, how long did, how long was that conversation? It would have been like five minutes of some Muslim explaining to him what Islam was about. He’s like, what the fuck? That’s what I believe. Holy shit, I’ve been Muslim this whole time. He’s like, yeah, brother, that’s how it works. You’ve been Muslim the whole time, and now you finally, you finally figured it out. You finally remembered that you were Muslim the whole time.

And so I do agree with that when it comes to religion, I do agree with. I don’t agree with Islam. I do agree that this is how people find themselves in religions. This is how people find themselves in ideals. It’s pretty simple. It’s also how people find themselves lost. Because there’s so many false idols, there’s so many people falsely promoted, and people are so busy with these celebrities, they’re not thinking about really crucial, important, either historical or living figures. And so probably the most historic living person at the moment, like, right now, at this very point in time, the whole world is. Their eyes are fixed on Donald Trump. That’s a fact, right? The whole world’s eyes. No, everyone’s eyes is looking at Donald Trump. He’s literally got everyone’s eyes on him. And that’s important to consider. That’s very, very important to consider.

And that’s why there’s this conversation about, is he going to be the man? Is he going to be the Caesar? Because we know he’s not the Messiah. We know he’s not Hitler 2.0. Even though the Left are like:

“Oh, he’s Hitler 2.0!”

He’s not Hitler 2.0. It’s not possible because Hitler was a mystic, you know, is India going to have a Gandhi 2.0? Probably, maybe. Would they be a mystic? Maybe. You know, are the Chinese going to have another Mao? You know, are the Russians going to have another Stalin or Lenin or Tsar Alexander? What are the Russians going to have next? You know, because we’re in this very dynamic situation with American politics, which is the Rome, the new Rome, and we’ve got the democracy. You know, we’ve got the Republic. It’s actually a more accurate way of saying we’ve got the Republic. It’s literally the Republic. And are we gonna have a Caesar? Are we gonna have someone that just. We know they’re not perfect. We know they’re not the Messiah. We know that they got a lot of fundamental. They’re not necessarily like a nobility aristocracy. They’re not going to be necessarily like a we know that Donald Trump, if he had the balls to do it, could never become in himself, in his own right, a dynastic religious figure. Not possible. He could be with Baron. Obviously, people, there’s eyes on Baron as well. What is The Prince going to become? What is The Prince? Because that does define the legacy.

Now, I’m not saying that Trump is our saviour, okay? But I’m saying that the world, a lot of the world, looks at Trump as the saviour.

Now, I don’t think the jews see him as the messiah. I think they just see him as a useful person to bring about the Messiah.

And I think we should consider that he’s a useful person to bring about the coming man as well. He’s not necessarily under our control. He sort of Donald Trump is quite strongly, he’s playing both sides. He’s quite obviously under the control of jews, but he is obviously, in his rhetoric, quite opening the door to White nationalism in his rhetoric. That’s a fact.

And that’s why he gets a lot of criticism from the Left. The Left-wing jews are saying to the Right-wing jews, hey, can we do zionism with a different person? This is not the person to help push jewish supremacy. This person’s opening the door a little bit too much to the far-Right, and we could have someone even more to the Left.

And then the jews like, no, no, no, that won’t work. The Right-wing jews are like, that won’t work. We need this guy. This is the guy. If he was more to the Left, it wouldn’t fool them. They would create their own. He’s in the exact perfect spot to get the majority of the White vote. You know that’s how Right-wing jews and Left-wing jews are sort of defining the caesar that they’re putting in front of you now. Is that conspired? Is that planned? I think it’s a bit of both. I don’t think everything’s like a hundred percent a jewish psyop, although I think that they don’t have to go to work like us. So they can actually sit there for long periods of time. And they have the map money. They have the power. They have the money and the power to actually do it, to actually move and shake things in the direction that they want it to go.

So I’m not going to get into the assassination and everything like that. We cover that on stream. But there’s these archetypes now. What is Trump now? Trump’s not my God! Trump’s not my Caesar. Trump’s. And I can understand why there’s a lot of Trump anti-Trump hate in our, you know, far-Right scene, because we want to not alienate ourselves from the broader right, but we want to make it really clear that that’s not the direction, that’s not, that this is not the guy and that the guy hasn’t arrived yet. He’s on the way. We don’t even know who the guy is yet, but we know that it’s not that guy. It’s something that’s going to come from this area. This is where it’s going to re-emerge the ideal man. This is like a pragmatic character that can get us a few things for now, but he doesn’t have the strength to go all the way. He doesn’t have the strength to resolve the question. He’s in bed with the jews, basically.

So how can he put the jews on trial? Because he would be putting himself under trial. So he can’t really do that. He’s in a difficult position. It’s not that he’s compromised in a sense that the way we look at usually how politicians are compromised, you know, usually when we look at a compromised politician, we’re talking about the fact that they’re compromised because the jews have got some actual proper blackmail on them, like child rape stuff. And look, I wouldn’t put it past Trump, considering I’m pretty sure he was friends with Epstein.

But there’s a lot of data to and fro.

But when I say Trump is compromised, I’m not alluding to that as a fact. It could be real, but I don’t know. What I’m alluding to is the fact that he just merely associates and intermingles and marries jews. And that, to me, makes him compromised. How could that man be the judge? How could that man swing the axe? How could that man make it? Make or swing the gavel? You know make the correct judgement on jewish crimes against White people? Not possible. So our energy needs to go into this, into we, until we have the guy.

So that’s what we’re working towards, which is pretty cool to think about that as a collective. We’re working towards creating the guy that’s going to do it but in order to create that guy, we actually all have to be working towards that, because it’s a race. We’re in a race to becoming man, to the Ubermensch. So it’s, you got to create a healthy environment for competition. You can’t, you don’t want anything to become too defined too early. You want to create healthy competition, competition and struggle. Struggle is the father of all things, and competition is a struggle, and struggle is a competition.

So that is an important concept to have in mind.

But, yeah, obviously the jews, when they want a messiah, they obviously believe that the messiah will come. Look, obviously there’s twelve different types of jews. There are a lot of different types of jews.

But one of those common messiah complexes for the jews is that he’s going to be a rabbi, that he’s going to be a teacher, that he’s going to come, the messiah is going to come, and he’s going to unlock the next stage and free jews from this material plant, and he’s going to do all these good things for jews. He’s going to put, he’s going to send jews to heaven. All the jews are going to go to heaven. And that’s when Messiah comes.

And I think a lot of Christians have a similar idea that with revelation and with the messiah or Christ, 20.0, obviously, there’s different kinds of Christians, and some believe that it’s already, Christ is already reborn in us, and they have that kind of take on it.

But I think most Christians and the typical Christianity that you’d learn about is this idea that when the Messiah comes, you’re going to heaven. We’re all going to heaven, which could be considered as a metaphor. It could be considered physical or literal, or it could be something beyond time.

So it could be this, I like to refer to heaven as being QUite a rational concePt, and that it’s beyond, it’s just simply beyond time. It’s not a word that describes a time frame. It’s a word that can only be understood not using a time frame. So I like the Roman concept of heaven, or one of the main concepts was Elysium, obviously popularised by Gladiator. And studying basic Roman history, you’ll find that it was this idea of what man is in the future. It was this idea of what my son is in the future. It’s this idea of, when I die, where am I going? In perpetuity, perpetually, where am I going?

So when you think about one of the types of heavens or afterlifes you can have, if you’re a Nordic warrior and this idea of going to Valhalla and the great hall where you fight and you feast and you’re fighting and feasting forever, indefinitely, and you keep respawning in the morning, so to speak, and this idea is beyond time. And so analyzing those afterlifes, analyzing those things, taking time out of consideration, what you’re looking at is timelessly, are we going to continue on this trajectory timelessly? Is this going to be always a core, fundamental part of who we are? Because that is the energy that you are. You are the fire. You are an element. Obviously, there would be people that would argue, well, that doesn’t look like heaven to me, because that just looks like one thing, and I feel more connected to God on a universalistic level. And heaven wouldn’t just be this one thing. Why would it just be that one thing?

And so then you’ve got to differentiate between a universalistic one thing, heaven, or is there like a pantheon of heavens, depending on which God you’re. If you special. If you Max into just one sub goddess or one of the gods, however you want to look at from polytheistic perspective.

So, yeah, will there be a people. Will there be a people in Elysium? Are the Romans in Elysium now? Are there Romans still alive, materially, genetically? Are there Romans still alive? Is that Roman archetype? Is it going to survive likewise? Is the Germanic, or is the Nordic, is its archetype going to survive forever? Is it alive right now? Are there Vikings right now? Are there people that still have that same spirit and that same blood and that same drive? Are they alive right now? Are they actually beyond time? Is the struggle between the Aryan and the jew? And obviously, I just articulated two Aryan civilisations, the Germanic race of Aryans and the Roman race of Aryans, and then both being Aryan, but both having slightly different forces, one Evola would say more being and one more becoming, one more domesticated or civilised, one more barbaric and free.

So, but two fundamental Aryan subraces, or forces, which you could say is similar in the spirit between the Greeks and the Scythians, for example. You could even say, in some ways, going back, if we want to go Old Testament, you could say, in some ways, it’s the later stage deterioration between Jacob and Esau. You know, these two for. Perhaps you could. I’m not going to do that. I’m not going to say that. But that’s an idea that you could have.

So if you think about the ancient, there’s an ancient battle between the Aryan collective unconsciousness and the jewish collective unconsciousness, and it’s beyond time. And to go on to a deeper, well, I don’t know, I need to have a breather. I need a break. But there is obviously that further ideal or idea that comes. I think the first time I learnt or studied the idea was a Roman historian talked about the need to not destroy Carthage. That if we destroy Carthage, it’ll weaken Rome. And that once Carthage is destroyed, there’ll be nothing to keep us in this kind of perpetual check.

And obviously they. Well, it’s bigger than just a perpetual check. But this idea that there needed to be that relationship between the two, ultimately they went down the path they were going to go down. It’s kind of a silly question. If you were looking at Woolies and Coles like the duopoly of supermarkets, it’s like you destroy one. Like, ultimately one’s going to destroy the other. If you maintain the duopoly for in perpetuity.

I mean, yeah, you can’t stop these forces of nature. Like, it’s eventually going to go to one, and then one’s going to go into lots. Like everything’s becoming a monopoly. And that’s the jewish goddess. That’s the jewish God. The jewish God wants everything into a monopoly. That’s the jewish God. That’s why everything’s gone global. So they can then all be owned by Israel and Wall Street. They want to just own everything. They want to control everything. They want to control all material. They want to enslave all material. And that’s their goddess, that’s what their God wants. That’s their bio-spirit. That’s just innate to them. We don’t. We don’t. We want to have a different kind of marriage with material. We’re not like neurotic, anxious, obsessed, like the jewish God over the bag of money. It’s not that we don’t want the bag of money. But that it’s that I. We recognise that there’s a bag of money, and I don’t want the jew having it. Is it gonna weaken me? It will a little bit, but can. Is there ways of strengthening with it? There are ways of strengthening. Okay. All right.

So it’s like, there’s this, like, rational conversation around material, around our relationship with material. That’s because our God’s very philosophical that way. Obviously, the jewish goddess rationalises things as well. I’m not saying that the jewish God doesn’t. The jewish God has a lot of internal monologue, maybe even more than ours, probably a little bit more than us. But quantity is not quality. That doesn’t make their God superior than us. I want to make that clear. But yes, they have a God, and yes, we have a God. They’re two separate gods.

This idea that they’re the same God, well, there are people that will try in the future to say that there will be people who understand this fundamental truth, that there is a jewish God and that there is an Aryan God.

And then they will make some sort of argument that these gods are both demigods of the same God. And that is philosophically correct. But they will probably make that conception, they will probably make that argument that they are two demigods of a total universal God. They will make that argument more specifically for the purpose of subverting justice or subverting judgement down the track as to what should happen down the track. Because they’ll say:

“Well, this branch is of the same tree, and so therefore this branch cannot be removed. We can’t prune this branch despite the fact that it’s rotten because it’s part of the tree. Pruning the branch would be equivalent to pruning the whole tree.”

And that is a false philosophical statement without proving the statement incorrect, as that it is the branch of the same tree. I don’t think, I doubt that.

But in saying that, in saying that is another way of saying, therefore, God’s not perfect. Because if we have an ancestral God and they have an ancestral God, then in theory, those, both those gods come from the same God in theory. And therefore that God is not perfect in entirety. It’s perfect only in some exclusive way. There’s only a small part of that God that’s perfect, and there’s things of that God. There’s parts of that God that are not perfect. And God, over a long enough timeline, is perfecting its perfection.

Now, I think that’s a pretty first thing that’s one I think, regardless of whether you’re Christian, pagan or agnostic, have no religious beliefs. I think that’s one that you could say is fair if you’ve been thinking about it, because for a very long time, I didn’t call myself religious, but I believed that God existed. And there’s that weird early phase of your own personal religious or spiritual development where especially being raised as an atheist, anyone that was raised as an atheist would certainly have to reflect upon what did they, how did they feel about life as a whole when they were in that phase.

And then at some point you graduate, at some point you change to thinking, well, actually, hang on a minute. There is animation.

Actually, hang on a minute. There are these things beyond just chemicals. There are these things just beyond elements. There are things beyond just the material.

There’s obviously something going on at a deeper level. I can feel it. I can just feel it. You can’t even rationalise it yet. You can just feel it.

So, yeah, I’ll just take a pause. I’ll take a pause. I haven’t really addressed the chat much. I think I’ve been going an hour and a half.

But that was just my whole flow for this stream was just because I haven’t done one, about six weeks was really just about God. And then I, obviously you have prophets to gods. You have, you know, as I said in the title, the Messiah complex, the Caesar complex, you have all these sort of things, and some are man made and some are made by God. And, yeah, I don’t want people sitting on their hands doing nothing. It’s a hard relationship to have with Trump as a character because you don’t want people doing nothing, but you don’t want people worshipping him. You want to make it very clear that this is not the guy, but also realise that people are at least politically energized that previously weren’t. And maybe they need to be let down. And when they get let down by the false idol, then they can find the true light. That’s a pretty common way of putting it without being too sort of artsy. That’s a pretty common way that religions will talk about The Times that we’re living in, but they’ll speak of it in the future, talking about right now, talking about the past. And they’ll say how these kind of times men were tested were really, really tested between these dragged between these forces. Absolutely dragged between them.

So, yeah, pause.

Okay, so I haven’t really gone through the comments at all! The most recent comment was, sorry. The oldest comment I can scroll back to was 40 minutes ago. So any comments at the start of the stream? I can’t really go through. I’ll just start reading them at random. There’s nothing really jumping at me. The governess says the magic is surreal. Watching normies do mental gymnastics around the JQ is just amazing! Most normies don’t even know a jew or has only met one before, but will defend them to the death, it seems. Oh, that’s when I was talking about the program. When you run the program. Oh, that’s absolutely incredible phenomenon.

And once you start realizing that, you start working out how to beat the computer you’re talking to. Some people say, there’s no point trying to beat the computer. You can’t UN programme the TV, but you can UN programme the TV. I don’t like arguing with people. I get tired arguing with people. But you just have to realise what the input code is and everyone’s got the correct, there’s correct sequence of information. A lot of times when people start talking about, oh, just kill them all. Then obviously people that are at a previous input code, it can stagnate them in their journey and their growth. The next one is, do I think the hit on Trump was genuine fake? I said, I wouldn’t really talk about that because, yeah, it’s just America. What I’ve always said on these streams, these big, long rants, is, I’ve always said, America is a reality TV show.

So it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter. Someone says, can anyone else not donate to this page? Yeah, I’m not sure how donations work, obviously. Sorry. Ideally, I’d like to take one day off work a week and stream and produce content, articles, essays, write my books, read more, do all the things I’d like to do during the week. And it’d be nice if I could work out a way of fundraising that. So that day off a week is still covered, so I can still pay my bills, but I’ll work towards that. We’ll get there. We’ll get there. But, yeah. I don’t know anything about shilling for money on Odysee. I don’t even know how it I don’t have it linked. I’ve got, like, a certain amount of these little credits, and I don’t know what the conversion of that is into Australian dollars. And I’ve just left it in there the whole time that I’ve had this.

So I don’t know how that works, but I’ll work it out. People just talked about. Yeah. Is it possible that I’m not seeking donations?

Well, look, it’s just a mixed bag. It’s like, yeah, it’d be nice, it would help, but no, it’s not my motivation for doing this. Zero says who would win? Every top intellectual in the West versus one Aussie construction worker. Yeah. As long as that construction work has got confidence. I’ve got confidence in myself, I’ve got self respect.

So, yeah, it’s important to know who you are as an individual. It’s important to know, like really know. That sounds really like a meaningless platitude, but if you can stop all the distractions, if you can just shoo away all the distractions, every distraction, every conversation, every idea, everything. If you can just get it all out away from you, meditate, if you have to work it out, and then when you’ve gotten rid of all those things, if you can then be put in a conversation with the enemy, ideological enemy, whatever, some Leftoid intellectual, if you can clear out all the distractions, what you’ll find in that conversation, if you just say the truth!

If you just say the truth, if you’re just honest, you’ll destroy any intellectual. You’ll destroy any intellectual. Yeah, there’s a there’s a genius of youth, there’s a genius of just being a child. And often that’s what I’m channeling when I’m answering questions, when I’m dealing with journalists or when I’m dealing with. I kind of just try to channel my inner child. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I often go into an interview, or a conversation and it helps me to not swear. It helps me to not swear. I’m not actually doing this today, but maybe I can have a breather, get a drink or something and come back and channel it a bit more. A bit better. But I often don’t swear as much when I’m doing it properly, when I’m really channeling. And I kind of have this empathy into my former self, I have an empathy into ten year old me.

And if ten year old me knew everything that I know that young kid, but had my strength, that I have now, but had that ten year old’s clarity and purity and honesty and naivety, in the sense that there is consequences, there’s consequences for saying the things that I say. When I say what I say, there’s consequences. I know. I know there are consequences, but I just don’t care! I just don’t care about the consequences of saying the truth and my observations, whether I’m right or wrong, it doesn’t matter. It’s irrelevant whether I’m right or wrong, because that’s peer review as far as I’m concerned. I don’t care for peer review. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter. It’s the truth! It’s my truth, you know, so it’s all irrelevant.

And ten year old me is just so honest, so brutally honest. It’s not tainted by the world of politics and the world of compromise, and there’s a youthfulness that you have to hold onto. You know, how could you lie to your own children? Because your children know when they’re lying, when they’re being lied to most of the time. And how could you lie to your own children? You know, when you talk to the public, the public have, in innate naivety, sometimes as well, a purity. The White public, the White masses have a natural naivety. They just trust the people who are in charge, because that’s just. They’re busy little bees, and there’s nothing ignoble about the bee. The bee is a noble creature. It’s all part of God’s plan. The bee is part of God’s plan. And the White normie or the White lukewarm, or the White neutral, however you want to put it, the White uncommitted is a busy little bee. They’re a busy little bee. And they’re just loyal to the Queen, they’re just loyal to the government. They’re just loyal to whoever’s in charge.

So that’s something to consider as well. Yeah. I hope I have a breather. I have a pause because we’re way off topic, but I just got caught. Yeah. Someone says:

“This is the most boring content I have ever seen!”

That’s cool. That’s awesome! Well, as I said, it’s not really for peer review. That’s not why I’m doing this. Yeah, if it’s boring, just turn it off. Like, they want me to be more entertaining. They want their God is got a bit more of jester. They want, like, a court jester. They don’t want a Caesar. They don’t want to. Or if they have a Caesar, they want the Caesar to be like WWE Caesar. You know, he’s got to be like an entertainer, like Trump, because Trump’s not boring. Trump’s an entertainer. He’s the funny orange man. You know, he’s a clown. Trump’s a clown. Very entertaining. All eyes are fixed on the clown. Yes. The clown emperor. That’s what Trump is. He’s the clown emperor and yeah, he’s made a lot of money. He’s made a lot of money. He’s the rich fool. He’s the rich clown emperor. The rich fool emperor, yeah.

So if he is Caesar, that’s what kind of Caesar he’ll be. Yeah, he’s the rich fool Caesar and I’m boring. Are you religious, Tom? Well, that’s sort of covered, yeah. Yeah. Someone says, low barrier to entry for Islam. That’s when I was going on about the it’s a giant rave gang. That’s a good point. What’s odd about Muslims and Indians is that Islam talks about certain health rules and wrestling, and the Hindu gods are portrayed as these jaguar. But every Muslim in Indian and Melbourne is lanky or fat. Yeah. Well, they’re just not even very loyal to their own.

I mean, the Hindus and the Sikhs, they’re not very loyal to their own gods. Or they’re. Excuse me. They’re kind of loyal. Every religion devolves like this. Every religion devolves where people follow one set of rules but not the others.

So you see that in Christianity. You see that in Judaism. You know, people. Some people follow the rule about chopping the top of your penis off. You know think about how insane that is. That’s absolute insanity! Imagine. Imagine your God just for one moment. You have a God. You all do. And your God wants you to chop the top of your penis off for them. Just have a think about that’s your God. You’re in this conundrum. You’re back in the conundrum where it’s like, do you submit to this God? Or do you pick a new one? Do you submit to this guy? Why does this guy. Why does this creature, this thing, this thing beyond thing things, what’s it doing with my foreskin? What’s it doing with it? Like, why would your God want that? That’s your idea of a God? I don’t recognise that God. That’s the God of the jews. That is the God of the jews. I don’t care what you call your religion. I don’t care what you call it. Call it whatever you want. It’s not really about what you call it’s about what it does, isn’t it? Isn’t that kind of a crucial subject? It doesn’t really matter what you call your religion. What matters is what it does. What does it do? What does your God do? Tell me. Tell me. What does your God do? Tell me. Not what do you believe in, but what does your God do? Who is your goddess? What is his name? What does he do? That will tell you a lot about people. That probably tells you the most when you really think about it, if you really want to know someone. Isn’t that funny that the boomers kind of created this, or the jews passed on to the boomers? The jews gave the boomers a curse, lots of curses.

But one of the curses that seemed to have stuck quite well with them is don’t talk about religion or politics at the dinner table. You know, how can you really get to know someone if you don’t know their God? And it takes me back to like Rudyard Kipling. It takes me back to the 19th and, 200th century, where people are like, early 20th century people are discovering other cultures and they’re writing about them. And there’s all these racist writers at the moment that have discovered Muhammadism. No, not at the moment. Sorry.

But there’s a lot of once from about 100 years ago, becoming quite noticed in 2024, they weren’t really, they were really only noticed by a really small subculture that was sort of cotton dawn.

But, you know, now it’s becoming almost a mainstream talking point. Like like Lovecraft, like HG Wells, like obviously Kipling. Kipling’s always been based. Everyone’s always known that.

But there’s a few others that I’m skipping over. Yeah, just some old. Ancient. Not ancient, sorry. Some old, you know, early 1900s writers or late 1800s writers. And they’re still popular from their works in the modern time.

And obviously the communistic education system has been removing these people from the curriculum since they noticed it in the sixties and seventies that this is bygone stuff. And let’s replace it with, I don’t know, little Tom Sawyer or something like that. Like, let’s replace it with the die of the day, the communist sort of Left-wing leaning literature of the day, not this stuff.

So, yeah, that’s important. That’s important to know. What was I saying? To really know someone, you have to really know who their God is. You have to really know who their God is. And, yeah, then you understand someone’s fundamental position.

So this makes this makes the argument argument, like we’re gonna have an argument with Islam. Like, it’s going to be an argument.

But the question as to, obviously, can Islamists, Mohammedans, whatever, can they exist within Europe? Can they exist within North America? Can they exist within any White colony? Can we tolerate Islamists, Mohammedans, considering who their God is?

Likewise the jews? Can we tolerate any of them living in proximity to us when we know what their God is, we know what their God wants of them and what their God rewards. And we need to understand this at a very thorough level. And this Nuremberg 2.0, if you want to call it that, I think that would be very poetic to have it there. I think a lot about how, at the end of World War One, the French made the Germans sign the peace treaty in that train.

And then when Hitler defeated the French in six weeks, he took them back to that same exact train and made them sign the inverse peace treaty back to Germany in the same train. He was very poetic like that.

And I believe that the tragedy that was Nuremburg, not just the horrible Holocaust against the German people and the firebombing and the killing in the millions of German civilians, at Nuremberg itself, the most disgraced, the worst, the biggest injustice in legal history.

And I think that’s actually why I read Imperium by Francis Yockley. I think he starts with that. I think that really hooked me when I was reading Imperium for the first time. I think he was talking about it as being the greatest injustice to think how they treated those great, noble men at Nuremberg.

And so I think it would be very spiritually valuable that when we do make judgement on the jews, that we do it at Nuremberg. I think that’s the one place it should be, where we turn the cards on them, where all the jews, all the people responsible when the investigation is done, all the people responsible are all put. You know, whether it’s a Covid agenda. It’s interesting that the cookers talk about this. Nuremberg two. We need a Nuremberg two. It’s true. Absolutely, absolutely!

But it’s not like Nuremberg two. Like:

“Oh, we’re going to kill all the Nazis!”

Again, it’s like Nuremberg two. It’s like the inversion of Nuremberg one. The same way that Hitler did an inversion in the train carriage. He was like, train carriage two, we’re going to do train carriage two, but this time it’s going to be different.

And I think about that a lot with a lot of things. Like, we’re going to do this number two. There’s gonna be Hitler too, but he’s gonna be different this time. Yeah, there’s gonna be some things that are gonna be, like, interestingly different because Hitler won. This is what you did to him. So then there’s gonna be Hitler, too, and vice versa. I’m sure. Anyone that’s following along with any sort of prophet idea or idea of their God as their God reincarnates or as forces reincarnate or as factors replicate like the train carriage or like, Nuremberg. Yeah, I think that’s important. Yeah. Someone says that a couple guys are appreciating the Elijah Schaffer interview.

As I said, I didn’t have much time to meditate before that interview. I was quite agitated just by the forces of the universe. Not by Elijah or not by anything else, but just rush, rush, rush, rush, rush. Go, go, go. I didn’t. It was a very, very busy weekend. We had a lot of club stuff on, and I was really under the pump.

And then on top of that, to chuck in that interview, at the same time as all these other things I’m trying, trying to resolve and work out, there’s just not enough time in the week and no holiday or no trip, is there ever enough time to do all the things that need to happen. But I didn’t get enough time to meditate as much as I would have liked to beforehand.

And when I say meditate, I don’t mean any specific larp. I don’t mean necessarily sitting cross legged and omming or any sort of specific box breathing or anything like that. Meditating, to me can be, as I do occasionally do the box breathing, and I do occasionally do breathing techniques, but I try to go beyond that. I try not to even incorporate some sort of theory. I try to just completely tune out everything. And what it might look like is me going for a walk, looking at things, but I’m not actually looking at anything. I’m not looking at anything materially. I’m just really inside my own space. And what my body’s doing is just wondering. My body’s just wondering because I’m in there wondering. I’m in there configuring and finding out where I am.

And then, yeah, then you can do a proper interview. I don’t suggest this to everyone. It’s not like if an interview comes up for one of you guys. It’s not like that. You’ve got to go for some. You’ve got to Rey, you’ve got to invent some process to get yourself in character or up to speed or in tune with you or whatever you’d call it. I just think that thinking is very important. It’s very important to just have clear thinking. Very, very clear thinking. And just if life is so fast and it’s going and there’s so many distractions, it’s very hard to answer truthfully or honestly or you’re often going to answer things pragmatically because you’re just caught up in time. You’re caught up. But to be beyond time to be. To get something, to get something new out, because you can just sit there and regurgitate talking points, but to get something new out, to get whatever it is that you’re carrying as a message, because you’re carrying something almost everyone’s carrying, some unique way of putting it. And when you’re carrying that, you have to be able to tune into that you have to believe that you’re carrying it to begin with. You have to believe that you’re carrying it. If you don’t realise that, if you’re just silent and you’re on the Internet, you might not believe that you’re carrying something crucial to unlocking it, that there’s not a messenger inside you, obviously, there’s. People have many different qualities. Some people will not be geared heavily in mercury in the sense of, from a paganistic way of looking at it, the messenger. You know, there’s a messenger goddess. In any pantheon, there’s a messenger God.

In any pantheon, there’s a God that has a relationship, often with speech, often with news or wisdom as well. Sometimes these things can be blurred. The library is a place where you can access old information, the archives, but you can also access the current information. These kind of temples and this kind of God force has always been built around. Is it wisdom and justice coming through in your message, or is it you’re just passing on something? It’s important for you to pass on something, and that’s why you have to have self confidence. You have to the reason why, in a strange way, the reason why it was me talking to Elijah Schaffer. This is a very strange way of looking at it, but I think it’s kind of true. In a strange way, you’re watching me talking to Elijah Schaffer. When you have the same ideas that I have, we have very, very similar ideas, we’ve probably have very similar life experience.

But the reason why it was me having the conversation and you watching, not the other way around, was that every conversation that I had with human beings up until the conversation with Elijah, I picked a path in that conversation that ended up being on that show and being interviewed, when you have roughly the same articulism and ideas that I have, some of you might even be better spoken than me and might even be a better representative for the Rex. You might even be Whiter than me. I might look kind of not even that White for a White nationalist. But what I want everyone that’s watching this to consider in their own personal lives is when you’re having the conversation with whoever, your physiotherapist, your mechanic, whoever you know, a family member, a friend, whoever you’re having this conversation with about not just the jewish question, but just our race, our civilisation, when you’re doing the racist foreplay, when you’re talking about this stuff, when you’re talking politics, every single one of those conversations counts towards your personal gravitas. It counts towards you making significant change. I want you to consider that and how important it is to put the right input code in to be aware that you’re trying to help deprogram good hearted people in society that would understand that, would see if given the opportunity.

But we need to work out how to give them the opportunity. So we can’t save them all, and we certainly can’t save many of the degenerates, but there’s a lot of lukewarms in the middle, and a lot of them we can save, maybe even the majority.

But first, obviously you have to save yourself first, obviously you have to. It bleeds out from the centre.

So the centre is the self, and then what bleeds out from the self is the direct family. Direct family.

So you have to have the confidence, especially with your wife, or if you’re a woman, especially with your husband. If you’re younger and you’re dating boyfriend, girlfriend, 100%, you cannot ever. This is something that’s so core and fundamental to you. It’s something that you should freely express in the best way possible to the people around you that are closest to you. And it bleeds out from there. And when we all collectively do this, The Voice, when we all collectively use The Voice, this sounds kind of Skyrim, kind of I don’t know, it’s a bit lappy, but it’s true. It’s The Voice. Hitler used The Voice. This is a very, very important point. You have to use The Voice. It’s not just about listening to me use The Voice. You have to use The Voice. The Aryan spirit has to channel through you, through your voice, whether you’re a man, or a woman, whether you’re young, or whether you’re old. The Aryan spirit has to be channeled through you, and it has to be used through The Voice. You have to use The Voice. You have to speak up. We can’t win until you speak up. That’s the truth!

So it’s not necessarily about me marching through the city with the guys when there’s enough of us. No, no, no! Even before then. Even before then, until you’ve used The Voice you can’t help the next stage.

So that’s when there’s enough of us. I mean, we are in an interesting situation in the, where we’re seeing in real time a change in doxing, the impact of doxing, and we’re seeing a real change. And there’s a trajectory. The more people that use The Voice, the more people that use The Voice, the more people they go mask off. The general trajectory. Yes, there are still casualties, but the general trajectory is less damage. That’s a fact. One of the most surprising ones was recently a senior guy within the organise who’s actually in quite a senior white-collar role. He was recently doxxed, and we were all kind of like:

“Oh, it’s going to be over for him because he the kind of guy that the system hates because they’ve got resources, they’ve got skills, kind of one of our older hits.”

And his boss was just like:

“Nah, it’s cool. Just keep it on the download. It’s fine. Don’t stress.”

Yeah, I’ve been contacted by people, but I stress about it also.

Actually, let’s talk about your contract for next year. You know, it’s going up. And the guy’s actually had two pay rises in the time since he got doxed, since his boss found out. And that is just, that’s pretty much unheard of in that, in those kind of industries. I won’t say what industry he’s in, but that’s pretty much unheard of most people had to bounce around. They had to find new jobs in the same industry. They still kept their white-collar jobs because I know a lot of White-collar guys are worried. Blue collar guys, not as much. Most of the people we recruit, atrades and younger guys.

But when we do recruit white-collar people, they’re very like, oh they trade on eggshells with everything. They usually don’t come to activism. They usually just do the training side of things and the community building side of things. And they’re usually mostly guys we’ve lost when they’ve settled down and had families.

And so that’s what we’re trying to prevent now with more of our community building process. Community building wasn’t the it’s not the means of itself. It’s the idea of we need to be a multi-generational organisation, and we can’t just keep losing our old heads. We can’t just keep losing our family men we can’t just keep losing people that have skills.

So it’s just like a very simple way of keeping the political organism alive.

So that’s something to consider. That’s something consider. Yeah. Someone says, is Tom’s interview Schaeffer on Rumble? Only on Rumble now. It’s been uploaded onto Twitter Telegram. Now. There’s, like, full versions of it. Tom needs to do another episode of Racist Couch.

Yeah, we’ll get around to it. Just been very, very busy. People just send in their regards. Someone saying in the chat, the God of the jews is Satan. Yeah, there’s a few people arguing the chat. Why were the Germans geopolitically aligned with the Muslims in World War Two? Or some of them? That’s just people not having an understanding, a most basic understanding of history. There was. When it becomes a World War, no one really addresses much, but I’ll try and do it quickly. When it becomes a World War there’s these intricate details of Germany’s fighting Britain in Europe, but there’s this intricate detail where the German armed forces have worked out how much supply or manpower is coming out of India, for example, to support their war effort. That’s what their intelligence would say.

And then there’s parts of the intelligence unit would be briefing a general on this kind of side quest being like, look, how much is there something we can do about this? And then it’s another part of the intelligence that would say:

“Oh, there’s actually a big anti-British movement in India, for example. And let’s say it’s a bunch of Muslims in what we now call Pakistan, and they don’t want anything to do with the British support of India. Should we help support this group here to cause destabilisation in India in order to stop India from supporting Britain in our war in Europe?”

And the intelligent decision, pragmatic decision on the ground would have been, yeah, absolutely! Let’s do everything we can to sabotage a British supply of manpower and resources and food and this and that and the other. Whatever else India is producing. Let’s try to, if we can destabilise this by 20%, then.

So there’s a cost analysis of it as well.

So it’s not just morally, is this the right thing to do?

But it’s more strategically, is this the right thing to do?

And then obviously there’s the cost analysis, which all sort of middle managers have to do. And what you have to do when you’re at war, not in a holy war, even though it was a holy war, but, yeah, there’s just always going to be middle management people that have to make these kind of calls.

And so this idea that it’s like Hitler’s personal alignment, it’s like, yeah, like, again, Hitler was so busy, Hitler was so caught up in all these things, that Hitler didn’t have enough time to speak to himself and be alone and make the right decisions. A lot of the time, decisions were just made for him because there was just too many decisions. Imagine Hitler, World War Two. How many decisions? The man’s already micromanaging more than any political leader of the day. Like, he was micromanaging way too much. And I can guarantee he wasn’t micromanaging that it’s just something that just happened. So don’t take too much philosophical offence to that or think that Hitler’s impure because of that. Someone says here, what advice would you give to help with expanding a small orc? Yeah, sorry, I’m just reading through a few more questions. Yeah, I think a lot of what I said on the stream is advice for a smaller.org. You have to have the right calibre of Mendez. You have to have the right colour of men. That’s really the most important thing.

And so when you’re vetting someone, when you’re. You want to grow small, you want to grow slow to start with. You don’t want to just accept every person that comes in to start with. You want to just take your time. You want to really take your time. Engaging, evolving. You’re not, you don’t want to rush into it, because you need to know that these first few men that you’re triving and training with, that they’re the ones that can stick around. They’ve got The Right Stuff. They’re made of The Right Stuff, and that they have the same God as you. I think that’s very important as well. No matter what they call their God, they have to have the same ideal as you. They have to have the same principles as you. It can’t just be surface level ideology. It can’t just be like, yeah, I hate niggers, or, yeah, I hate the jews, or that’s not enough. That’s not enough. When you’re a small group, I think you really should get the Right calibre of guys around you to start with and then you can start taking on people. Then you can start taking on when there’s enough of you and you’ve got enough of a cultural weight. You know, like this little click that you’ve made of it has a cultural weight to it.

And then when you add people into it doesn’t dilute it too much too quickly. It can always maintain its cultural weight. When it dilutes, it gets a feedback. It dilutes and it feeds back. It doesn’t just dilute, dilute, dilute, dilute until the group doesn’t even know what it is anymore and you’ve got a really big group that doesn’t have any real principles or values. Because I’ve built groups bigger than what I have now, much bigger, but it doesn’t matter. It’s like you’re back at square one. As soon as you try to change anything in the right direction, you’re much better. Starting with a pure core. And you don’t want to dilute yourself, your core, with time.

But you can accept, I don’t know if projects is the right word, but you can accept guys that that they’re not at the standard, but you can articulate the standard to them and help develop them and not over nurture them, but help develop them and see if they can grow to the standard.

But, yeah, enforcement, strict standards for your inner circle. That’s what I would say. And ideally, you’d want to keep the majority of your inner circle as you’re in a circle. It’s not a fun process, demoting people out of your inner circle, because this is another thing people don’t consider. When organisations first develop, the length of time someone has spent in the to begin with is more important than anything else. That’s the beginning of all organisations. So if someone’s been around longer, then that’s like the sole kind of hierarchy or authority.

And as you get bigger, when you’re like five guys, that makes sense because when there’s five of you, there’s a new guy, and when there’s six of you, there’s a new new guy, and that goes up, that just keeps happening until you’re sort of at like 1215 guys. It still always happens, but eventually you start losing track of who the newest, newest guy guys. There’s like a few new guys because you’re bigger and you’re growing at a different rate and you’re kind of like 40 or 50 guys. And maybe there’s three that are new this week versus in the early days. It’s very slow. It might take two months or three months before you go from five men to six men. It’s very, very slow growth in the early days, but it’s more about quality. Don’t worry about quantity in the early days, just worry about quality.

So that’s very important. Yeah. When you’re a larger group, you have a structure. You have a very clear structure. You have people that have very clear roles. And there’s a much clearer hierarchy. And that hierarchy gets clearer and clearer the larger the group gets. Under 100 guys, there doesn’t need to be that much clarity. Just people need to know who their go to guy is. People need to know who their rep is. We don’t need to have a cult of personality around junior leaders or senior leaders or the leader, especially not when it’s so small and tiny.

So you can define yourself, you can declare yourself, you can. As a small group leader, you can create a small individuality of your leadership because you’re a captain, you see, you’re a captain, so you’ve stood out. You’re a man amongst men, and you’re a captain and you deserve it. And I don’t have any. I like that a lot. A couple of my state leaders are like that they kind of I won’t name who, but there’s a couple guys out there and they there you get it. Like, it’s They want to. They want to maintain. You’ve got this or you’ve got a brand, but they want to just like, push the boundary of the brand.

When I was in the army, there were some offices that would salute different. I’m not going to do it on recording, but there was a way that you were taught to salute, but there were officers that would like. They would salute clearly outside of the pan. There’s a Pam on how to salute and how to. What angle to hold your arm and your hand and your fingers and this and this and this. And there’s diagrams and there’s a very clear, obvious way of how you salute.

But there were officers that would just push the boundaries of the salute until their salute looks nothing like the salute in the pan. And they would get away with it because they’re a good off. They were a good officer. They were a good officer, so they would get away with it. I think that’s an interesting thing to understand, is some people put more focus on being the individual, being the captain, than they do on actually being good at their job. So be good at your job, and then you get kind of these privileges. And if you’re really good at your job, you get huge individuation and you can be like you can peacock or you can have as much ego as your brain can manage. You know that’s kind of that’s how I feel. And I know that when my ego gets bigger than my brain, God strikes me down. My God is not cruel to me. That’s not the right way to put it. But, my God, I. When I just get a little bit too greedy, it’s kind of its kind of op. It’s kind of overpowered because it’s kind of not fair in the sense that if it was like pure chaos, if you never knew, if you never got, if your God never strikes you down, if, like, nature never corrects your course, then the chance of you being on the right course is very low. You know, like nature or God, whatever how you want to look at it. The creative energies of the mother, the creative energies of the father, they’re going to strike you down. They’re going to smite you know, when you do the wrong thing, as a civilisation, as an individual.

So, yeah, it’s good to just keep your ego in check or whatever the issue is. Every. Every person’s got a different thing. Yeah. But being a captain, being a small crew leader is to be a junior leader.

The most important thing is that the men genuinely respect. Respect you. It’s never, ever going to work if the men don’t genuinely respect you. It does come down to gravitas. It does come down to genuine respect. You know, in Band of Brothers, there’s that famous scene, and I see it a lot of World War Two movies, and where they have that famous line where they say you salute the rank, not the man. You know, you salute the rank, not the man. It’s the rank. And we’re living in, excuse me, the situation we have that’s very roman, we’re more Germanic. That’s a very Roman sort of philosophy, in my opinion. Germanic philosophy is you salute the man.

And that’s why Germanics are a bit more barbarian, they’re a bit more disorderly.

But we have to recognise ourselves. Most Europeans are not pure Germanics. Most Europeans, I know some guys that are very rowdy. They’re very, you know, they’re not very Roman. You know, they’re not very. They’re barbarians. I know some guys that are just blond beasts, barbarians from the north. They’re just born out of time and they’re attracted to our movement and they’re all awesome, but they don’t want any rules, they don’t want any laws. They just they. But they are truly barbarians. But they’re White nationalists.

And then you’ve got kind of more nerdy types, very legalistic, and the Constitution’s got the right wording in it. That’s how we fix the problem. And they’re White nationalists as well, but they’re kind of more. They’re less Germanic in their essence, and more kind of maybe roman, more bureaucratic. So you kind of have these two spirits alive within a leader, within an organise, and within the men that you recruit.

So you need to be. You need to be conscious of that you need. The bigger you get, the more discipline you need.

So the early days, you don’t want to be over disciplined. That’s kind of what the point I’m getting at. I’ve seen a few groups start up and it’s like three guys, four guys, and the leader is like, just a bit too overbearing with this rule and that rule.

And it’s like, there’s like four of us, man. Like, come on, let’s just. Let’s try to get the ten guys. That’s kind of more important.

And then that guy’s like, no, I listened to this Tom saw stream, and he was saying, the purity is more important than, than size and that we have to have the most pure guys possible. So let’s. Unless, like, get really autistic and lost in the source the nitty-gritty of how the group should be run, you know, instead of kind of just get the ball moving and just kind of fix things as they sort of establish. Fix problems as they establish. So ultimately, whether you start small or start big, like, whether you start pure or not pure if you’re on the right path, like, I didn’t start very pure at the start of building my. I kind of just let in a lot of people. And almost all the people that I wasn’t really conscious about that. I wasn’t really consciously, like, evaluating them as having The Right Stuff. A lot of them left, almost all of them left.

So if you’re not pure, you’re going to lose people anyway.

So, yeah, start small and build up.

So this has been going for 2 hours now, hasn’t it? That’s a long time to just listen to me talk and answer questions. Yeah, 2 hours. Wow! I can just do some, like. I think that was meant to be a quick answer, wasn’t it? But I just got lost in the rant. I haven’t done a rant for a while. It’s therapeutic. Here’s an interesting question from bass Chungus. Any tips for or rants on the schizo maxing archetypes? I feel like you tone down your third eye a lot on streams and [laughter] Trumps right ear. Yeah, schizo maxing. I think it’s just important. I think it’s very, very important to people to be able to speak in symbols. I am very interested in all forms of communication. I’ve recently been learning some baby sign language because I find it fascinating to be able to talk in signs to my baby. And I want to teach all my kids sign language if I have the time.

I also want to teach them German and eventually some old Nordic language or something and try to, like, recycle, like Psyop or recycle the language of English into like this Nordo English because English is going to turn into pig English. It’s like, you can see how English is deteriorating, so we actually need to turn English into a different language. It all ties in with the civilisational mitosis. So I got this stuff going on in my mind, and then I’m also thinking about sign language just as, like, how awesome it is.

But, yeah, it’s very important for people to be able to speak in signs.

So you can call it, like, schizomaxing, but again, that carries that sort of negative connotation that it’s like an innate negative. And it is, if it’s untuned, you’ve got to tune your ability to view symbols and to study symbols. It’s very important. Yeah, but you do come across, like, schizophrenia. Posting is, it only comes across bad when you’re an amateur. It only comes across bad when you’re not. You got to be very fine tuned. Very, very fine tuned.

Because if you have that part of your mind open, most people don’t.

But if you have its a blessing and a curse if you have that part of your mind open and it’s not tuned. You’re just going to sound like a maniac! You’re just going to sound like an insane person. And other people with their mind open are going to listen to you, and it’s up to them whether they want to disagree with you or not, because your mind’s open, but it’ll never open. It’s not capable. That mind, that untuned mind, is not capable of using The Voice, getting the correct vibration to un, you know, unwoke the people that have got the brain virus. The jews have put them under a spell and it’s black magic, and we’ve got to get them out of that spell. They’re very clever linguistically, they’re very conniving linguistically. They know how to create spells, and it really does come back to that as a principle. Gaelic. Nord says, Thomas, have you ever read about Roman rituals? There’s one called evacuate. Evacuateo decorum, or diorum. Wouldn’t that be decorum?

Anyway, they basically invited foreign gods, or racial foreigners that they defeated in battle back to Rome, perhaps to increase their power levels. I believe they made a big mistake in inviting the jewish God back. Yeah, absolutely! I am aware of Roman and Greek rituals. They’re the most famous story on this exact ritual is Troy, which is kind of interesting because the Romans come from Troy, they come from the Trojans. The Romans are the Trojans.

So the yeah, the wooden horse is a form of deity that they brought back with them into the city gates, and it’s a metaphor for evoking enemy gods. When you bring enemy gods symbolism, whatever the power, just talking about the schizo maxing, you got to be able to read in symbols, you know. Did the Trojan Horse in the movie, Troy was a symbol? If you only ever watched that movie and never knew anything else, you might not have seen it as a symbol, you might have seen it just merely as a material wooden horse.

But if you’ve studied history outside of watching Hollywood movies, you would know that it’s a perfect allegory for things appear as a present, things appear as something that could bring us good grace or power or enrichment, and they turn out to actually be completely hostile. It turns out to be a facade for something extremely hostile and damaging, and that we should have an immune system that keeps out these things.

So, yeah, that’s a very important point.

I also think that the main difference between the Roman state of being was moving in a direction that ultimately changed their blood, and they weren’t the Roman principle. You know, I’ve said this many times when asked about the use of the motto blood and honour as our symbolism.

And I actually remember in the early days, really early days, before we used that as a motto. I actually went up to Jacob and I said to him, I said:

“We should have a motto because we’re just ideas, man.”

You got to imagine it’s just a dozen guys, two dozen guys, and you’re just hanging out in the backyard gym, and you’re like, we’re going to make it. We’re going to make an organise. We’re going to make a, like, we’ve just been hanging out, and we think we’re at the numbers now, where we can actually just launch a brand of an organise and we’ll start formalizing things. We’re kind of at that size where you start formalizing. You’re not just a bunch of guys, a bunch of in on a social club anymore. You’re actually starting to organise and create a subculture. And reinforce that subculture.

And so what you do is you get, like, you make up a flag. It’s like, this is one, that’s one of the first things you do you make up a flag. You’re like:

“Hey, this piece of cloth, this is us. This is our thing. This is our symbol. This is us. It’s just innate. It’s entirely innate.”

It’s one of those masculine things you can do is just pick a random thing with a bunch of other guys that you actually, you actually have a form of brotherhood with and so, but you pick some innate thing, or a mascot or an icon, or a symbol, or a rune or something, and you’re like, yep, this is us. And that’s one of the first things.

And one of the second things you do is things like chance slogans, whatever. Like, there’s got to be some very basic branding. There’s going to be some very basic. It’s not like a Freemason secret handshake, but some groups, I’m sure they do secret handshakes. Well, actually, that’s one of the things we did. Not a secret handshake, but we did the Roman handshake instead of a normal handshake. We just decided to do that just randomly. And how we actually came to the conversation about blood and honour was I said to Jacob, we need a motto. Like, we need something that we say. And Jacob was like:

“Yeah, hail Hitler!”

And I was like I think that might be a bit full on, to start with, I think and Jacob would just. He would walk into a room full of people that he knew it, that they were racist, and he would walk into the room and he would say, how’s it going, fellow racists? What’s going on? Klansmen? How’s he going? Klansmen?

Hello. Klansmen.

Hello, racist. Hail Hitler. Like, he would just introduce himself like that. Like, it was, it was. Now it’s kind of normal. People are kind of they understand it now, but back then we’ve come a long way. Five years ago, ten years ago, you know, Jacob, hers are walking in the room, and it’s like this is, like early days. Everyone’s just trading on eggshells on the racism. And he just walked in and said like, yep, hail Hitler. Hail Klansman. Stuff like this. So I said to Jacob, I don’t want to do hail Hitler as, like, a like, our standard thing that we say all the time. Like, at the end of training, we should say something. And he’s like:

“Yeah, yeah. Like, hell, Hitler.”

I’m like:

“No, I’m thinking more like, in Gladiator, we’re like, before they go into battle.”

This is a real conversation. I was like, Gladiator. I brought the Gladiator. I know. Gladiator two cocked. Yeah. We don’t have to talk about it, but Gladiator one, not cucked. Gladiator one, awesome! You know, obviously it’s cucked like 90, nineties style. Like they had to put a black slave in there and shit like that, but whatever. But, yeah. So I said, no. Before the battle, he says, strength and honour. They, like, shake hands, or they do, like, Roman handshake. Strength and honour. And we already do the Roman handshake, and we don’t do the Roman handshake because of Gladiator. But I don’t even think we got it from Gladiator. I think you got it more I just knew it was a Viking thing they did. I just knew it was like an ancient handshake. Obviously, I saw it in Gladiator because it’s obvious the Romans did that as well. They did the Roman salute. They did the Roman handshake.

But I think all Aryans did this. All Aryans. Aryan salute, Aryan handshake. You know, it’s the same thing to me.

But, yeah, I said like, strength and honour. That’s a good one. Like, I’m not saying let’s use strength and honour. But I’m saying something that sounds like that, like a sign off. We need to have a sign off as a group. And he was like, whoa, you wouldn’t do strength and honour because they’re fundamentally the same principle. They’re just at a material level, but blood and honour, they’re like inverse principles, or not inverse principles, but they’re principles that are, you know, two different ends of the same thing. You know what I’m talking about. Blood and honour verse. Strength and honour. I should wrote a poem tying into this, the reason why I picked blood and honour instead of strength and honour. Obviously, blood and honour is more in line with the Natsoc worldview. And it’s not from a movie or from Roman history. It’s from very recent history. It’s from very recent National Socialist ideology. And it is honouring the fallen of World War Two in doing that it’s honouring Hitler in doing that.

But obviously, it’s a more broader term than just saying, hail Hitler. It’s a more broader term that talks of a more philosophical worldview, a worldview being made of blood and of honour, the union, the marriage of those forces.

So it’s a second thing on that is that the Romans didn’t have a motto of blood and honour, and that’s why we should make it blood and honour, because the Romans don’t really exist anymore. The Roman Empire failed because they didn’t have blood and honour as their highest principle. They had strength and honour as that higher principle. So strength and honour can’t exist without blood. Strength and honour can’t exist if you know, you take slaves and you dilute yourself through these slaves. We can’t do what the Romans did.

So we need to have. We need to take, you know, Hitler says, in my country, clearly, we need to take that which works. You know, when you read a book you need to be able to get something out of it. You need to be able to take the knowledge and discard what isn’t fundamental to finishing your sculpture, which is your I, your stone like worldview. And so to me, that blend is very difficult to ascertain, the blend of Roman principles and Germanic principles. But things that are obvious, things that are striking for me, is taking their. The Romans had an attention to detail. They had an attention detail, and I think the Germans have already taken that to an extent. I don’t think the Germans, the modern day Germans, when I’m talking, when I say German, sometimes you got to understand, I’m not talking about German. I’m talking about Germanics as opposed to Germans.

I’m not talking about German as a 21st century political designation of a group of people that live in Germany that are of general descent. I’m talking about two archetypes. I’m talking about the Germanic Nordic barbarian, the blond beast, and I’m talking about the kind of Roman soldier, bureaucrat, aristocrat. That’s kind of what I’m archetype.

So they’re both archetypes, but it’s both very different. Archives. I think a modern day German is already a halfway point between these two principles. I don’t think I would consider myself a full barbarian, but I also wouldn’t consider myself a full kind of creature of these Roman machinations. I do think of myself as more free spirited. So, yeah.

Anyway, pause this stupid question here. Tom, if you saw a black woman being attacked, would you help her? It’s important to. When people ask those kind of questions, drift, Hamlet. When people ask those kind of questions, it’s important to pause and consider the motivation of the person answering, asking the question, why are they asking that question? What do they want to hear and what’s the truth? And is it necessary to explain that at the moment? Yeah. People just talking about active clubs in the chat. If there’s no other questions, I can go into active club for a little bit, although I think it’s been pretty broadly covered, especially answering that question before about how to start up an active club and those foundational phases, building the purity of it.

But, yeah, if there’s no other questions, I see there’s an 181 people in the chat, and that’s the most it has been the whole time. And there’s not really much else to cover. Yeah. Someone says, first time, thank you for your work and dedication. You’re one of our strongest leaders and an inspiration. That’s from Pavlov’s puppy and from wall. Now we’ve got. What do you think the next step after active club is? Well, that’s. Yeah, that is something that I can definitely go into briefly. I’ll practice my short answer. The next logical step after the active club is the active brand.

And I think that’s what Rob Rondo’s done really well in the US, that it is a brand. It’s beyond just one individual clique or one little club. It’s the brand. He’s built a brand, ..

And so the brand requires a staff leadership.

So when you build a brand, when you start when it’s not just like ten guys at a park, when you’ve got, say, five or six or ten different clubs, and they’re all got 5, 10, 20, 30, some of them maybe even 40, some of the bigger ones. You know, when you start looking at your membership not in the sort of single digits or in the dozens, you start looking at it in the hundreds, you have to evolve from focusing on the active club as a club, as a group of individual clubs. You have to consider it at a brand level or at a company level.

So that’s like from how you would break down that in a corporate structure is you would consider that they’re branches and that you have like a main company, a main body, and from a military, not that it’s a paramilitary organisation, but just purely to break down any sort of structure, what would be considered a company sized structure, you’re breaking it down into Platoons and sections.

And so you have to start considering who’s leading each section. You have to have some sort of top down staff command that control the brand as a whole.

So that’s kind of what we do with our EAM [European Australian Movement], NSN [National Socialist Network]. They’re brands. They’ve got a staying power, they’ve got a brand power. They’re not brands from a corporate sense in the way that our purpose isn’t to make money.

So you’ve got a brand like Nike. Obviously, its purpose is to make as much money as possible as Nike. That’s like a jewish version or just a corporate version, if that’s just your main principle.

But obviously our highest principle is not about corporate power. We don’t really care about the marketplace. We just acknowledge that the marketplace exists and that people need a market of some sort and it should be regulated fair and well and kind. Yeah, it’s not like our focus. It’s not what we’re really looking at. What we’re looking at is how do we save our people? How do we save our race?

So we’re building a brand. Yeah, it’s beyond just a little click of guys that know each other in person. It’s a national brand.

And so that requires national branding, it requires national leadership, whether that’s behind the scenes or in the open doesn’t really matter too much at that stage. And I guess that’s when you start going from a section or Platoon size to a company or battalion size. So it’s different kind of management you need to be considering at that stage. And we can study Mein Kampf quite well to understand how Hitler organised his men into different branches. And you can just study NS philosophy, NS history. And really, any history, history is very important. You can’t study Roman history without getting into the nitty-gritty of how a legion broke down and how Roman society functioned and how it was built and who built the roads and all this sort of stuff. It’s, or how did a phalanx or hippoplite. How did the Greeks organise their army? Or how did the Greeks organise their society? What were men’s duties and responsibilities?

So, yeah, when you’re growing to the next stage, you just have to consider, well, what are the foundational, historical, successful models that you built us that society has been built on? What were their inherent flaws? You have to consider what their inherent flaws were, where there was perhaps a lack of balance, or where there was perhaps too much balance with things that we shouldn’t have.

And then, yeah, like you as a leader, whether that’s of ten men, or a hundred, or a thousand, then decide or try to guide that ten, or a hundred or thousand men on their destiny.

So, yeah, you’re gonna get pretty good at surfing the Kali yuga, so to speak. Yeah. Someone says, is there a group near Parr a matter a? Yeah, we’ve got groups everywhere in Australia. Near is the subjective term. Is it ten minutes away? Not really, no. But have we got guys in that general region? Yes, we’ve got guys in every region, every town, every city, every suburb, or almost every suburb.

So, yeah, and if we don’t, we have one in the suburb next to you, and if it’s not in the suburb next to you, it’s two over.

So, yeah, as guys join in the early days, they’ll be like, oh the closest member to me is a whole suburb away.

But then in the future, you’re going to be surrounded by too many Nazis. You’re going to be sick of fucking. How many Nazis live near you? You know, you’re going to be like, where’s the closest non-Nazi to me? Because every single person near you will be a Nazi. And that’s just what happens along our timelines.

So if you just stick around, you just. There are guys that are isolated. They join. They’re isolated in the middle of nowhere, or they’re in Parramatta you know, it’s 40 minutes training. That’s just too far. It’s too far for now, sure, but just stick with it. And then maybe in six months time, or a year’s time or 18 months time, you just have got to have that consistency and that faith that there’s going to be more guys joining up in your local area than the one you have to drive to. And then during the week you can just train with those guys. And then only once a week do you train with the guys in that broader general area because there’s just too much to drive there every day or every second day or however often you want to train. Localism becomes a key part of it.

But yeah, in the early days, you’ve got to be committed. You got to show even more commitment to be the Spearhead, to be the guy that you’ve got to consider yourself. Whatever suburb you’re in, whatever town you’re in, if you’re the only one, you’ve got to consider yourself that. You’ve got to be better than the next guy that joins. Not so you can be better than him, but you would be better than him in the sense that when he joins, he’s like:

“Oh, wow, this guy has obviously been doing the worldview. They’re not joining in like the guy that joined before them, the guy that’s their rep or that’s in charge of their area is like, you wouldn’t want to join an organise where the guy that’s the ref, your area is not good, not in a good position, not in a good place.”

So if you’re joining early and you’re the only guy in your area and you’re not in a good place, it just use it as motivation. Just be like when another guy in the suburb gets recruited they can look at me and be like:

“Oh, fuck, this guy’s been around two years. Holy shit! It was just him by himself for two years and fucking, he’s a beast. Look at him. Shit!”

You know, you kind of want that going through his head. Not:

“Fuck, this guy’s a loser. No wonder he’s been around here two years and hasn’t had any friends.”

You know what I mean?

So it’s like, what kind of man are you? What level are you at when the first guy that gets recruited in your area or the second guy or the third? Well, you’re obviously the first guy, but after you.

So you have to consider that.

And then that decides your importance and your role and you’re in a way, in a kind of Viking way. Your fame, your gravitas, your clout. You know, you don’t have to be a clout chaser, but it is a motivation of all men. Not an entire motivation, but not no motivation. It’s somewhere in there. Some men maybe more than others, but you gotta have a healthy ego. Healthy. Am I just gonna be a contributor to this? Am I just gonna be a lukewarm, a warm body? Am I gonna come down, get involved with this organisation and just I’ll just do the bare minimum and just. I’ll do my duty, you know, for the White race. Like, no passion, no drive. You know, you have to consider that when you’re getting involved with the group. Where’s your passion? Where’s your drive? How much do you believe in it? How much do you care? And are you going to put that forward? Are you going to pay that forward? Are you going to pay that energy forward? And is that collective will and that collective drive going to move this movement to success? Or are you just going to come just plod along and carry yourself where it needs to be? And you see that?

You see guys, they don’t really have much drive. They’re there. They’re doing better than nothing, but they don’t really have the drive. We need drive. We need men that are driven. Need men that are really driven. Not to the point of destruction, not to the point where you burn out, obviously, we see a lot of young guys really driven.

And then you watch them start to burn out, and you watch them just overdo it, overdo it, overdo it.

And then you try to have these conversations like, hey you need to take a day off. You know, they’re like:

“No, no, no!”

And then you’re like, oh. And then something happens in their life, and then it’s like all this pressure hits them all at once, and they’re like:

“Oh, I don’t think I can do this anymore.”

They kind of like, explode. Not explode, but, you know what I mean? They kind of like, burn out. Like a quick burnout, as opposed to just telling them, hey, just, yeah, you’re doing well. You’re growing, you know, everything’s going fine, everything’s good, you’re getting your life together. Everything’s coming together your contribution for this, what it’s doing, you know, we’re succeeding with people like you know, don’t be so hard on yourself. You know, you kind of have that conversation. You know, you’re doing well. You don’t need to do any more. We’re happy with what you’re doing right now. Just maintain that if you need to take a little bit of a step back so you got some breathing space, do that you know.

So human management is very important when you’re running a little club. You have to be a good reader of people’s character. You have to understand people. You have to be able to empathize with people, you do have to really understand the men that they’re around you, and you also have to understand your own limitations. That’s important as well. You need to understand where there’s a certain limit and you’ve reached a limit, and you’re just not physically capable at this stage of having more responsibility. You’re kind of at your physical limit. You’ll burn out if you get more responsibility lumped on you. And for some people, that’s just like the bare minimum. For some people, the bare minimum is just too much responsibility. Like the idea of just being healthy, in shape, a little bit of exercise every week, coming to the occasional activism. For some people, that’s too much. That’s too much. They have to be unfit, they have to be overweight, they have to be irresponsible with their social life, or their drinking life, or whatever it is. They’re partying life. They have to be not at the activism. There are people that are like this, and that’s difficult. That’s difficult to manage. That’s very difficult to manage when there are people that are almost like, specifically self destructive.

And so you have to make an analysis as to whether you’re going to maintain this person as a member of your organisation, or whether you’re not going to maintain them. And that’s hard to swing that axis. Hard. That’s a very difficult thing to have power over, the power to exclude and to be able to make the right decision so that will get tested for everyone. And it’s not just the leaders. Even without saying anything to the leader, even without saying anything to leader, everyone has an energy, and everyone can read, they’re paying attention to everyone else’s energy. And when the energy is off, when it’s wrong, sometimes, even without saying stuff, there is just an energy where there’s a groupthink, there’s a hive mind, and people go, mmm, nah, I don’t have confidence in this person, or I don’t have confidence in this person to this capacity. I’d have confidence with them as a member, but not as a leader, or I’d have confidence with them as an associate, but not as a member. And that’s very important. Yeah. Yes, many such cases, but every, it’s, every organisation is going to be different the exact way that I do it. Is not necessarily the best way, it’s just the way that I’m doing it. There’ll be groups that will do it differently and maybe their ways are better. And that will prove in enough time, given enough time, that will prove, it’s proven by the quality of men that you have, not just right now, but in the future.

And so the more time that goes on, the better quality of men that you have around you, the better quality of families that you have around you. And built on that principle of honour, built on that principle of nobility, not just necessarily about surrounding yourself with rich people or powerful people in the now, because those people aren’t as important as good, honourable, loyal people are. Into the indefinite, you can surround yourself, you can be a socialite and surround yourself with liberal, democratic elitists. There’s an elite within the Liberal democracy, and there’s a lot of people doing that. They’re kind of chasing that dream. Just in wider society that is obviously the archetype or the goddess of wider society, like wider liberal democracy is really obsessed and really devoted to these false idols. You know, they’re sort of one of the worst examples that I’m talking about is the Kardashian effect or the Kardashian idol. There are people that sort of idolize this lifestyle, this reality TV lifestyle of these fake billionaires, and they’re just pieces of shit, basically. And society is just caught up with this the God of luck is the God of the orgy, is the God of liberalism. You know, is the yeah, you know, where I’m going with this. They kind of worship that as their primary God. Yeah, much to consider. Much to consider. Jaw once stated, any White nationalist movement that succeeds in getting power would be crushed by the US government. So our race depends on American White nationalists seizing power. Do you agree? I’ve tried activism here in Michigan and it sometimes feels like an uphill battle. And we’re failing our kin across the West.

Yeah, I mean, the United States is the new Rome, and a lot of the power sits there and rests there. And that is like the fundamental political battleground. I believe that it’s going to be a chain reaction, that it’s not just simply that the US has to rise up and then the rest of us can. Although we discussed on stream recently with the Trump situation and the idea that when America sneezes, the rest of the world blows its nose. There is a lot of people, there’s a lot of eyes on America. There’s a lot of eyes on Trump as I said before, it is the dominant political culture across the West. So.

But in saying that doesn’t mean that as soon as they do something, it gives us permission, as. It’s just as likely. It’s just as, like, what I’m trying to say is this. It’s just as likely that a country will do something that needs to be done and that will inspire Americans. It’s just as likely as that to happen as then America makes it the norm, and then the other half of Western civilisation downstream of that decision, also make the correct decision. So, hypothetically, it wouldn’t be America to first do proper deportations. America might talk about it, like, Trump might talk about it, but then it could be some random country in Europe that’s the it could be, I don’t know, it could be Italy, it could be Greece, it could be Germany, it could be Poland. They could do a large deportation, and then that could inspire the Americans to then do it. And then it becomes the norm in, say, Canada or Britain or Australia, because America’s done it now.

So I think that’s a likely relationship. Yeah. Obviously, we’re all looking at each other across the world like:

“Hey, let’s fix this!”

Yeah. Pablo’s Papi says:

“Have you studied psychologically, psychological behavioural influence, suggestion, and persuasion as a political propaganda tool? I think it is very valuable, considering we don’t use it like the jews to, but fight fire with fire, so to speak.”

Yeah, I mean, I have a basic understanding of psychology, of Jungian and Freudian psychology. I understand emotions and behaviour well in the sense that I can convert that into a political understanding. Should the average person do this? Yes, I think the average person should. Should just consider more, to notice more, to think more about what’s happening around them at a microcosm and at a macrocosm, to analyze daily interactions, to analyze just what you’re encountered with in life. And in doing so, you will learn much more than doing a psychology degree.

But if you did both, and I’m not saying for people to do psychology degrees, but you can open the textbook, you can read shit online, you can watch YouTube videos, you can do research into basic human psychology and behavioural psychology, even animal psychology. You know, I like watching the studies on primates. I like watching the studies on them, because you can extrapolate a lot. You can see what’s primal. And that’s primal is there’s got to be a balance between primal instincts and higher instincts. And they have to work together. So understanding what drives people’s primal instincts can help you develop political strategy, and not from a false perspective, but by truly understanding people at a primal level.

So if you understand White people at a primal level, you’ll understand that White people are anxious at the moment. They’re very anxious at a primal level. There is an anxiety and fear in every White person about a future, consciously or subconsciously. And it is displayed in Leftism. It’s false. The false action, the false path of the anxiety of being anxious about the future is all these Leftists focusing on the environment and becoming like eco communists. You know, they fear that there’s something wrong. They’re kind of just slightly misguided.

And so the jews understand it and that’s why they create political pathways for feelings that they can understand in order to redirect them and misdirect them. So yes, we need to understand the same primal instincts in order to redirect people into actually fixing the problem and meeting those primal needs when we’re not. Because women, as I said before earlier in the stream, women need a healthy environment. This is very important. This is very fundamental. Women need a healthy environment. We need to create a healthy environment for women and children. That’s what we have to do. We can handle things worse. We’re men. That’s what we’re built for. We’re built to go outside the wall. We’re built to go outside the wall. We’re actually built for the outside wall.

We’re not actually built to just stay in the Garden of Eden. So, and we just have to be. So in saying that, I’m a little off topic here, I’ll try and draw back the question. Psychology. Psychology, yeah. To, to create that healthy environment for people to stop female anxiety. You know, our birth rates, low anxiety.

Okay, so it’s not what you call. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter that they’re anxious. It doesn’t matter they’ve got anxiety. The issue is that we’re not replacing ourselves because they’re not healthy. The masses are not healthy because they’re being poisoned by jews. So we are the honest men that are assessing the situation. We’ve sat down, we’ve assessed the situation that all these fundamental issues in society can be resolved if these people or the majority of these issues can be resolved just purely by creating a healthy environment.

And then we can start isolating toxic things. We can start when everything’s healthy. Then we can start looking at genes that are retoxifying the situation or genes that are trying to not necessarily revert back to a different new, that could be a potentially better direction, but toxic genes that are trying to revert into a lower form, revert into destructive energy. And how do we stay on top of that? And it’s not always bye. Putting it out, putting out, putting out. Sometimes it’s being honest and addressing it. You know, for example, you could smash the communists, you could smash the communists, you could smash all their talking points. You could you go full, you know, fuck the environment. You know what I mean? Like the communists, obviously there’s a cross section of women that identify as communists or identify with this kind of Lefty politics because they genuinely think that the world is going to end. They genuinely think that we’re destroying the world now we are polluting the world. We are. And I’m an environmentalist and so obviously, yeah, crush communism.

You know, if I’m the man holding the sword and I get put in the position, I’ll have the strength to swing it on the communists. The ideology needs to be smashed. The ideology needs to be destroyed. It needs to be completely eradicated. But it stemmed from a fundamental flaw and that flaw actually needs to be fixed. You can’t just remove an ideology from society. You can’t just cancel it, censor it, like how the Left are trying to get rid of Nazis. Well, they’re trying to get rid of Nazis because they’re trying to get rid of White people. And Nazis are the things that keep White people alive because Nazi or Aryan ideology is the ideology that has kept White people alive. It’s the only thing that’s kept White people alive through every ultimate challenge that we faced.

So that’s why they’re trying to get rid of us. Yeah, yeah.

And so we need to understand what motivates people and how to fix the fundamental issues. Why are people depressed? Why are people anxious? Why are people. This needs to be fixed, ultimately, not just like:

“Oh, here’s some drugs to make it not noticeable.”

Yeah. People talking about boxing in the chat, how to join a boxing gym. That’s all pretty, pretty obvious. Someone asking you about Hitler’s vegetarianism. Not something I want to do a big topic on for this stream, but basically it was just world renouncing. So I’ve covered it before, the Hitler vegetarianism. He went world renouncing for a little bit for a couple years. He just wanted to try to get to the next level and see if he could see something there, see something beyond time there, I can’t tell you whether it worked for him or whether it didn’t.

But ultimately the war went the way it did and what happened happened. So it’s just, that’s just a part of the story. That’s not me. I can understand why people need to keep bringing it up. I wasn’t going to flesh this out, but if it is important principle when creating doctrine, the Muslims, for example, because there’s so much that Muhammad left and obviously the Christians with Jesus, there’s so many books, there’s so many hadiths, there’s so many accounts.

And then you’ve got to have accounts of Nicaea. You’ve got to work out what you’re keeping in and what you’re taking out, what’s important, what’s not important and what should be overlooked or what should be more explained.

And so there would be people that would want to pretend like Hitler wasn’t a vegetarian because it doesn’t suit their current agenda, which is we’re all eating as much meat as we can. That’s basically everyone within White nationalism, except a few guys that are reverting to that part. There’s people that maybe are going a bit too far down the Hare Krishna sort of stuff and they get involved with vegetarianism. And it is what it is. It leads to where it leads to, but maybe that’s just what they need at the time. I don’t know. It is what it is, but that’s politically inconvenient at the moment.

But I don’t think we should overlook that. I don’t think we need to be afraid of that.

The reality is that he was a mystic and that he was exploring time. He was exploring his own destiny, his own fate. He had achieved so much by that point.

And then obviously we started to see him making other decisions. And the Muslims will sit there with Muhammad and they’ll say:

“Well, if there’s a clash where Hitler basically says, ‘You should eat meat in Mein Kampf’, and you should eat food closest to the most natural source of it. So the least processed, the better. The more it’s in its first form, is what we’re meant to be eating. That’s what Hitler’s philosophy was on diet closest to the first form.”

And basically, the more you need to process something, the worse it is for you long term.

Then you’ve got obviously a vegetarian phase. And what the Muslims do is they say:

“Well, whatever was said second, because more of God’s knowledge was, was given to Muhammad later on.”

So if he’s contradicted himself between what he said when he was young and what he said when he’s old, take the older, and I’m not going to make that call. That’s something that’s quite well known within theology, that when you have conflicting statements, you take the statement that was made when the person was older and wiser as a general rule.

But in Christianity, obviously, it doesn’t work like that at all! It’s just a game of mental gymnastics. When you’ve got something that clashes and then you’ve got an issue of translation and you have to consult some of its biggest Hebrew and, yeah, then you can maybe formulate an argument as to what was meant in that exact scenario.

And obviously then there’s schisms in different churches because, well, one side thinks it means this and one side thinks it means that, but ultimately, you know, it all works out. It all works out because, you know, there’ll be an understanding of Hitler and there’ll be an understanding of Hitler’s National Socialism, and there’ll be an understanding of blending that with what we need to do going forward into the future. That will be the most successful model. And if there’s schisms that are slightly less successful, but still White nationalist National Socialists, and they’re a slightly different version of it with a slightly different interpretation, well, if it leads to our victory, then that’s what. That’s ultimately a good thing. Someone says. Thoughts on Stu Peters? I like what I’ve seen. I think he’s an interesting character. He seems to be pretty red pilled on everything. I don’t have anything negative to say about them. I haven’t seen anything bad about them. They seem like they know what they’re doing. I haven’t followed their whole journey, but, yeah, it’s awesome to see people like that come out of the woodwork. Yeah. People just asking about water filters. What water filter? I use. Yeah.

A lot of people talking about vegetarianism, meat, diet, stuff like this. Yeah, I don’t really want to talk about that stuff. I think there’s a lot of streams talking about diethyde. I wasn’t going to go into that in terms of my talking points. I’ll just quickly go through what I had planned and I think that would. It was mostly just about who’s going to solve the problem and how we get there. I said Messiah Versa.

But the most important thing that I want you to take away from the stream is everyone has a God. Everyone’s working towards a God, everyone’s actually contributing to the building of a goddess, their own God, the God that’s in their image and that they are in the image of as just a reflection. Then if you want that messiah to come, if you want that Caesar to come, you have to create it, you have to contribute to it, you have to build it. That’s very important through your work.

The other thing was about women and children needing to be able to be in a healthy environment where they can make their own mistakes.

So we need to create a healthy environment for them. We can’t blame what’s innate to naivety and to not having what women lack and what children lack in forward thinking, logic, and reason. What they lack is they usually gain in a kind of personal intuition. So children have intuition. Women have a lot of intuition. Men do as well, of course. But we are more likely to confuse ourselves from our intuition.

But, yeah, women need to not, like, full anarchy, but some sort of, like. It’s like the opposite of an archo tyranny. It’s like this relationship between authority and freedom. It can’t be full freedom, but it can’t be full authority. We have to blend freedom and authority together.

A lot of people go, oh, freedom freed. Our freedoms are under attack. It’s like, yeah, yeah, our power is under attack. You know, it’s like, it’s not just our freedom that’s under attack, it’s our power. We used to have power. We’re losing our power, and you’re people are conflating their freedom with their power. But I understand that at a deeper level, they’re similar terms. A lot of our power comes from freedom and our freedom comes from our power.

So there is a relationship between freedom and power, which kind of that would be a slogan. That would be a political branding slogan, like White power and White freedom. You know what I mean? It’d be like power and freedom for the Whiteman. That suits both narratives, in my opinion, because there’s a lot of people that they just kind of want to be left alone. They’re unhappy. They just want to be left alone. They don’t hate anyone. They just want freedom. And they don’t have to think about trannies and refugees, basically. They just want to go back to, like, 1980s, whatever it is.

And then the other motivation is people that, like, we need fucking, you know, total power.

So, yeah, someone says:

“How would you explain the worldview to a normie?”

Geez, why I did it. There’s 50 ways of doing it. It just depends what comes to mind at the time. It’s more important, how would you explain it to a normie or neutral, someone that’s politically neutral, someone that’s not awake, someone that’s not aware of what’s happening, they’re not noticing.

So if you come at it from that angle, then consider that you need to get them asking the right questions. You need to get them to notice what you notice. So however that works, whatever the dynamic is, if it’s your father, if it’s your mother, if it’s your girlfriend, if it’s a younger sibling or an older sibling, someone in your personal life that you’re trying to red pill, then you have to consider what will get them noticing, what will get them noticing, what will make you know, what’s a threat to their existence that they would, they would pick up on.

So you have to see it that way.

And a lot of people, it’s gonna be very hard to wake them up, because when you consider that question, a lot of people, they only consider threats to their materialism. They only really consider threats to the comfort of their life. So those people, it’s not that it’s not worth waking them up, but if they’re not passionate people, if they’re not passionate and principled people, yeah, you just have to consider that sometimes. Just slogans and symbols and just power, power for power sake, because they’re never going to really respect it. They’re never gonna. Some people are just never gonna understand it, they’re never gonna respect it.

But what they will respect is power for power’s sake. They’ll just respect strength.

So whatever argument you’re making come from a position of strength. Yeah, that’s an equally important principle to not just making the right argument, but making the right argument from a position of strength. Yeah, I hope that helps. Alright, well, thank you for joining me. It’s been almost 3 hours. That’s way too long. Have a nice day. Blood and honour. Hail Hitler!

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volkhero
3 days ago
Love and gratitude from the States.
Heil Hitler and 14 Words.

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Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
Great Work Thomas.. we appreciate you. wfp

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@TaderWaffen
3 days ago
fake n gay. Holocaust never happened

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
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PavlovPuppy
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@Thomas_Sewell
Yes your spot on o/. sorry im quite new to your content to be honest

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MajesticCasual
1 hour ago
I’d say Thomas Sewell,Joel Davis, Blair Cottrell, Warren Balogh [Warstrike with Eric Striker], Weston Paradigm, Just Joe Radio, White Rabbit Radio, Mark Collett etc.. Also Nordic Frontier lads [recently labeled terrorists byt the Judeo-terrorists who occupy the USA gov state dept, so they were banned but they are wholesome, non-violent,patriots and can still be found on Rumble temporary and Telegram, or maybe their website directly]
https://t.me/NordicFrontierPodcast
https://t.me/nordicresistancemovement
https://nordicresistancemovement.org
I’m sure I’m missing some but I work outside 6-7 days a week so I put all these guys streams on rotation and don’t disagree much with any of them. They all have their own style so it’s a well-rounded lineup if you have headphones on 50-60 hours a week.

@Mike
2 days ago
Tom, I’m watching a couple of days late in Canada so you probably won’t read this, but this is great content, there isn’t enough commentary on life through a natsoc lense and i want to see and hear more.

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Nightcrawler
15 hours ago
Hey, I’m from the east coast of Canada. O/
Good to see other Canadians here.

PavlovPuppy
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@Thomas_Sewell
Absolutley. thanks o/

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Harry Holler
3 days ago
Jesus tells you to spread the other cheek

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Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@Lebensraum
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SkoolafIsh
3 days ago
Walther – I appreciate that you are always so consistently and comprehensively ahead of the curve. Tremendous channel – still working through to download.

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
the main thing people need too do is stop eating the poisoned commercial foods and drinking fluoride water…eat clean it will change your life

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Wise.

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@TaderWaffen
3 days ago

@WaltherMauser
lol

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The Governess
3 days ago
the magic is so real, watching normies do mental gymnastics around the JQ is just amazing. most normies don’t even know a jew or has knowingly met one before but will defend them to the death it seems

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Karl Hakenkreuz
3 days ago
It’s the holocaust conspiracy theory

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@Gullaldr
3 days ago
Isn’t kind of ironic Buddhism is actually an Aryan religion and is categorized as Eastern whilst the semitic religions are viewed as Western, it’s an inversion

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
The Doctrine of Awakening is not the same as Buddhism. Read more.

Muh Fashy Bookshelf
2 days ago
Tom, Hitler was a Catholic. Catholicism is technically a European religion.

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Fancy
2 days ago
DAY OF THE ROPE IS COMING

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@Moonman
3 days ago
o/

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@PenelopeMaynard7
3 days ago

@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE
thank you. it’s an honor. he does the heavy lifting. best, Penelope

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@Esau
3 days ago
Active Club here in Canada is growing. We have big plans

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Hobo TV
3 days ago(edited)
this is good, but I’m sad I’m at the age that I’m probably not going to be accepted
need an organization for tribe and train that accepts those of us in the 40 years range. DM me on telegram if you can help.

Callaghan
3 days ago
WHITE POWER CHAPTERS are popping up everywhere

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Thanks o/

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@sparkofspirit
3 days ago
thanks thomas o/

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3 days ago

@DOLO
ahh man. he should hve one even if to just take questions. I know he’s not interested in being a pro streamer, but getting a few extra bucks can always be thrown towards his org’s activities

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago
I can tell your a great speaker and know how to be an authority etc. Ive been researching Psy-Ops alot lately like CIA/RAND documents and stuff. very interesting.

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
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Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
the Jbolshevik communists took over America 1913 then used the power of the dollar too spread communism world wide

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𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
Hence why the (((gov))) and (((ASIO))) is terrified of your organization Thomas

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Have you studied psychological behavioral influence, suggestion and persuasion as a political/propaganda tool? I think it is very valuable, considering we dont use it like the jews do but fight fire with fore so to speak.

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@Esau
3 days ago

@drifthamlet
I could even see him being a leader of something like a World Aryan Congress to combat the World Jewish Congress \o

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Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
if we cant take over or remove the corrupt system politically that does not leave many other choices.

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@drifthamlet
3 days ago

@Esau
Tom has the potential to be Australia’s Hitler

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Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
Hello/ Tommy first time Catching you Live

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
First time chatter. Thank you for all your work and dedication. You are one of our strongest leaders and an inspiration o/

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SkoolafIsh
3 days ago
Hello Pavlov – I am just catching up on this terrific replay myself

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@Esau
3 days ago
I wish we had a Thomas Sewell clone here in Canada. Our NS scene is utterly lacking.

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Love & Division
3 days ago

@HarryHoller
Practically speaking that’s true. The God of the Jews is Satan

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@Lebensraum
3 days ago
Great points all.

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@david_smith
3 days ago
I think Trump only cares about himself, I don’t think he is loyal to anyone, just controlled to a significant extent.

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AMALEK INTERNATIONAL
3 days ago
Trump has been an owned asset since his 1990s bankruptcy. The banks’ (jewish) lawyer said it plainly: “We made the decision that he would be worth more to us alive than dead…dead meaning in bankruptcy. We don’t want him to be a bankruptcy, we want him out in the world selling these assets for us”

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Dillinger
3 days ago
Well Trump’s family are jews now, so he is ostensibly a jew himself; since his children haven’t married Gentiles

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Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@TaderWaffen
Heard miriam adelson wants a ‘book of trump’ put in the bible. She can afford to have it done. lol

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Wizard in the Woods
3 days ago
If you’ve read classical Greek philosophy, you realize they were dealing with the same shit as now. Plato’s popular work is literally called The Republic.

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
External conditions are the output of an internal chemistry. Plato was smarter than you as yet know. Pearls —> swine.

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@TaderWaffen
3 days ago
without holywood and the media trump would be just another real estate mogul

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@xero
3 days ago

@WaltherMauser
I think he already fucked off back to his Hasan piker stream

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Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@ScottRousell
Plenty of side show entertainment channels you can go check out

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Dillinger
3 days ago
It’s good that Tom’s addressing these topics

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@CampsLindburgh
3 days ago
gov’t owes jews money

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Logos
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
do you think the hit on Trump was genuine or staged fake and ghay? or somewhat both

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Boys will be boys.

Operation Werewolf
3 days ago
we are living through the greatest selection event in 1000 years. those that survive this generation will be worthy of being called Aryan. will will loose all of our dysgenic waste. see you on the other side boys

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Time is your brain’s explanation for fear. Release fear to “release time”.

@jbc77
3 days ago
Great discussion Thomas. Wishing you the best from the U.S

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The Governess
3 days ago
some can’t learn anything without making mistakes, not everyone learns from others mistakes

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Wizard in the Woods
3 days ago
Nature is at scale. Lessons / morality can be learned by observing other parts of nature interacting. What happens to the bug can happy to you. There are laws of nature.

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
It could be more accurate to say nature has an Order rather than laws. Man makes laws. Order makes man (through nature).

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@Gullaldr
3 days ago
Wow, What a synchronicity, I just finished watching your Elijah Schaffer interview and now I see you’re live here, Thank you for all you do Thomas and much love and well wishes from here in northern Sweden 14

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Wizard in the Woods
3 days ago
Paganism is the witnessing of the divine force in nature playing out through all of its parts. There’s a reason the old religions believed this because we constantly lived in nature observing it. Modernity has separated us from nature, so it’s hard to have these experiences and relate

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@xero
3 days ago
This should be an interesting one, Toms got based takes on religious concepts

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
By what standard do you call yourself Aryan? Have you considered all history is myth, rather than “reality”?

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Thomas Sewell
2 days ago
you make no sense.

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Who Said That?
2 days ago
Thank you for your response. I will clarify that Aryan is a term that should be used for more than just genetics. There is a certain inner character which must be proven before the bestowment of title

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White Community
2 days ago
good analysis
Jewish god and Aryan god
Aryans really need to study and understand Jews in order to free themselves

@Jim
3 days ago
Somebody pls inform Tom that Stalin wasn’t Russian, Jugashvili “Stalin” wasn’t even White

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Thomas Sewell
2 days ago
I know, the point still stands.

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@Jim
2 days ago
Thanks. BTW, overall, very inspirational high-octane stuff, thank you.

White_Wolf
3 days ago
Rabbi Yeshuah is no god of White men either.

Reclaim
3 days ago
Tom has so much wisdom for being a relatively young man o/

Hobo TV
3 days ago
Hail total White Victory!

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
How do you expect that to happen? You are outnumbered.

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Hobo TV
1 day ago
We will show you. soon.

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Matt Hammond
3 days ago
I had to put my serious hat on for this.

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@Esau
no, not tonight

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@PenelopeMaynard7
o/

Vivian
3 days ago
tanklin, stack, then nnr o/ see ya

Callaghan
3 days ago
Devon Stack after party at Nicks

Heeb Watch
3 days ago
\o

@Esau
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
You going live tonight, brother?

Doomsayer
3 days ago
o/

Callaghan
3 days ago

@Esau
WHITE POWER

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Prove it with intelligence rather than intensity.

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Callaghan
3 days ago
0/

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Who Said That?
2 days ago
The symbol of the Aryan Elite is the mark of immobility, the Swastika.

@PenelopeMaynard7
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
you’re very kind. lovely, thanks so much. P.

@david_smith
3 days ago

@DawnBrowning
chlorine is bad for soil life, so best avoided or let it evaporate before watering plants

@Esau
3 days ago
Blood and Honor. Heil Tom. Heil

@Aryanity

Kal
3 days ago
0/

@PaganBear
3 days ago
o/

WFP!
3 days ago
Heil

Karl Hakenkreuz
3 days ago
Thanks Tom o/

Dawn Browning
3 days ago

@david_smith
I do on homegrown veggies.

DOLO
3 days ago
o/

@Azroc
3 days ago
cya

WFP!
3 days ago

@ssanwaerter
3 days ago
0/

JQRcode
3 days ago
O/

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago

)))Joker(((
3 days ago
o/

@Dangbot
3 days ago
seeya

@david_smith
3 days ago

@DawnBrowning
I doubt it would be a problem, use rainwater if you can.

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Southernfryd
this is what I was getting at with the psych/influence stuff. There are certain techniques for different types of people and situations

Dawn Browning
3 days ago

@KiowaRenegade
I’m also looking for info if flouride accumulates in vegetables & meat via town water

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago
Power brings freedom too

Callaghan
3 days ago
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NSG5gV3Prhgu

Vivian
3 days ago
very well said

@david_smith
3 days ago
rational centrism

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago
“politically applied biology”

@Southernfryd
3 days ago
Tom how would explain the worldview to a normie

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Very good question here.

Callaghan
3 days ago

@PenelopeMaynard7
Huge support on Marks show

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@PenelopeMaynard7
I haven’t turned up anything on entropy itself nor his telegram. Will check rumble too

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
chicken fish steak veggies rice and fruits..stop eating sugar

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago

@david_smith
i bet he advanced to the raw meat carnivore diet but didnt announce it

@david_smith
3 days ago
Being a vegetarian creates more gas

Saxon Dawn
3 days ago
Someone mentioned joining an AC in Michigan. The FRM has an AC in Michigan The Sons of Hengist we are recruiting reach out to me if your interested. We have AC’s around the country.

@PenelopeMaynard7
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
many thanks, P.

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@DawnBrowning
i distill

Dawn Browning
3 days ago

@KiowaRenegade
What water filter do you use?

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@PenelopeMaynard7
I don’t think so, but i’ll check entropy itself and his telegram and see if there’s a link there. just a min

@david_smith
3 days ago
White people are the primary force fixing the environment

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
…And the primary force behind grievous loss of life in the whole civilized world. Think about it.

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@david_smith
3 days ago
You are a gay anti-White.

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Who Said That?
2 days ago
The environment can’t be fixed. Work on your self, gayboy.

@david_smith
3 days ago
We? got a pajeet or Chinaman in your pocket?

@PenelopeMaynard7
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
salient question, thanks for asking. I’d love to know. best, Penelope

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago
Im not promoting being manipulative in a bad way of course, but some people need tricked into doing whats right for them

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
You have potential.

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@david_smith
3 days ago
Anxiety = thinking about the future

@Hierophant
3 days ago
the parts of your brain responsible for anxiety also light up with thankfulness. Philippians 4:6-7 talks about this

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Excellent reference. The passage only gets better after this too. Don’t settle for mere belief and faith. Pursue understanding.

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Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
whats your thoughts on stew peters? he was going ham for a while…

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago

@KiowaRenegade
in msm? the ex-dailywire negress probably

TheOpenRoad
3 days ago

@Mr_White_Tuber

DOLO
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
I don’t think so.

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
who does everyone consider the main person outing the subversive juws right now in msm??

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
does Thomas have an entropy or something chat?

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago
aye the fightin risih are rising

The Pork Report
3 days ago
Yes, Ireland

@Esau
3 days ago
^

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
dasjuden is turning American into a third world shithole by flooding us with millions shitskins

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
nothing changes until the fed Res is taken from their greedy rubbing hands

@ssanwaerter
3 days ago
What was the deal with Hitler’s vegetarianism? i can understand the sympathy for animals and was myself a vegetarian for about a year, But it seems like something impractical for a society at large. HH.

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Frederick the Hate
3 days ago
He wasn’t a vegetarian for just ethical reasons or pity for animals. He believed there were health benefits to a vegetarian diet. He, of course, also did not impose his diet on the nation… lol. HH

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Vegetarianism is a form of Ascetic practice common among monks. This is more likely than the alternative of shortage of meat. Most likely it was a personal sacrifice he made for a specific purpose.

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
yea good point. you only have one brain and its delicate. Train defensive movement, big time. Mike Tyson was the best at it, once you get the basics down in the gym study his drills and fights

@Wolnir

Whiteflower
3 days ago
:shushing:

Whiteflower
3 days ago
^^

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@Wolloms
haha

@Esau
3 days ago

@Vardhan945
I agree that the US is the hub of ZOG especially militarily but our revolution needs to be a global aryan revolution so that the jews don’t create an intra-NATO war to stamp out the revolution.

Wolloms
3 days ago

@KiowaRenegade
Yeah im sure biden was out boxing several times a week….

Wolloms
3 days ago

@Wolnir
Its a good skill, and its fun. Your best bet is a gym, once a week with a AC is good but not really enough to develop skills in it.

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@Wolnir
you can train but taking constant blows too your head will make you slow someday…look at our leader biden brain dead head

@IanSnawp
3 days ago
i have wasted years of dedication scribbling on walls…i am ready to use the same determination into something more productive

Whiteflower
3 days ago
what a time to be alive

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Wolnir
Find an mma gym

Wolnir
3 days ago
I want to fight it feels good

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@Wolnir
go to the range instead

DOLO
3 days ago

@Wolnir
Join a gym

Wolnir
3 days ago
if i dont have a nat soc to teach me boxing whats the best way to learn

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
you are correct sir again

@IanSnawp
3 days ago
i am always keen for a trek…nowhere within sydney is too far for me, thanks

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
when your org is big, and everywhere, that’s when it starts to threaten jewish power

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago
^fire

@Thad88
3 days ago
NSN Darwin

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@Vardhan945
its not a U.S. Gov and yes you are correct. They use the FiB to infiltrate and make up crimes on any group that tries too collectivize

@IanSnawp
3 days ago
i am messaging the bot now…thanks thomas and thad

Whiteflower
3 days ago
nice

@Thad88
3 days ago
on telegram as well

@Vardhan945
3 days ago
Joel once stated any WN movement that succeeds in getting power would be crushed by the US Govt, so our race depends on American WNs seizing power. Do you agree? I’ve tried activism here in Michigan and it’s sometimes feel like a uphill battle and we’re failing our kin across the West

@Thad88
3 days ago
on telegram

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@Esau
I like the way you think mister

@IanSnawp
3 days ago

@Thad88
i thought they were based in victoria…ill try messsging eam on telegram, thanks

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@drifthamlet
i vote for Goose SStomping

@Thad88
3 days ago

@IanSnawp
yea, NSN and EAM

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago
parrot mountains?

@IanSnawp
3 days ago
is there a group near parramtta???

Wolnir
3 days ago
what do you think the next step after active clubs is

@Esau
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
I agree. Active Clubs seem to be the best option in Canada right now. We have some big plans in the works.

@Esau
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
I wish them well but they ultimately are not NS and they allow non-whites at their VIP events.

@david_smith
3 days ago

@Esau
Not a fan of Diagolon?

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago
o/

Spartan_Sardaukar
3 days ago
Words and stories shape reality. Real and fictional ones. Fiction is what fuels future inventions, people imagined planes before fully building them.

@Esau
3 days ago
What’s up my Aryan brothers and sisters? Greetings from Canada.

@drifthamlet
3 days ago
WN is exploding on Twitter right now. It’s incredible. Even mainstream guys like Anthony Cumia are promoting it.

Dillinger
3 days ago
Don’t you think that “give them bread and circuses” is a simple solution?… Obviously the jews do not want White European Gentiles to have influence in the production of films and tv…

)))Joker(((
3 days ago
turkey has replica of that trojan horse

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago
the old cunning linguist

@drifthamlet
3 days ago
Tom if you saw a black woman being attacked, would you help her?

@GaelicNord
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Have you ever read about Roman rituals? theres 1 called evocatio deorum that basically invited foreign gods of racial foreigners that they defeated in battle back to rome. perhaps to increase their power levels. i believe they made a big mistake in inviting the jewish god back.

Lifting_Lion
3 days ago
I’m just listening while I work. earphone in and getting my work done. cheers.

@ReturnToHyperborea
3 days ago
have you seen what handsome truth has been up to lately?

AMALEK INTERNATIONAL
3 days ago

@Mindmyriad
But only 10-15% of the nation is habitable

@Hierophant
3 days ago
chastisement. happens to me

Heeb Watch
3 days ago
I think many people focus so heavily on demographics when looking for a place to purchase land/home that they overlook density. Australia has amazing population density. 27 million on the entire continent

Callaghan
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
be great if you could get Jason & Mark on

Love & Division
3 days ago
Be careful you don’t get dragged into a David Koresh situation.

Based Chungus
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Any tips for or rants on the schizomaxxing archetypes? I feel like you tone down your third eye a lot on streams lol…trump’s right ear….

@Hierophant
3 days ago
o/

)))Joker(((
3 days ago
o/

Dillinger
3 days ago
One of the most unfortunate things about Hitler is that although he was a great wartime leader, his true talent was at running a great country, creating peace

@david_smith
3 days ago
I woke up a around 4am

Whiteflower
3 days ago
Are Whites waking up in Australia

Whiteflower
3 days ago
Foreigners out!

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
sure seems like it, their god certain seems demonic

Wolnir
3 days ago
what advice would you give to help with expanding a smaller org

Heeb Watch
3 days ago
If you live in the states and want to get a trade skill, look into the WIOA grant. I got it to pay for my whole trade school plus $500 dollars for work clothes.

@ReturnToHyperborea
3 days ago
Have you seen what Handsome truth has been up to lately?

Dillinger
3 days ago
I tried contacting NS13 in Ontario, got no response

@Thad88
3 days ago
most people dont get doxxed if they take basic opsec precautions

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago
based boss

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
o/

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
they doxxed too may people

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
yea, doxxing doesn’t do what it used to

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
based

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@theopenroad
o/

Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@david_smith
Who would dare strike a god king, yo!

TheOpenRoad
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
o/

@david_smith
3 days ago
It is kind of odd that some people believe nobody would conspire to kill Trump.

J5
3 days ago
yeah that was a great interview with Elijah. sent that to alot of people.

Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@warren-g
Pragmatic realpolitik

Dillinger
3 days ago

@tmp357
The right ear thing was at the least an interesting coincidence

Anonymous Goy
3 days ago
o/

TheOpenRoad
3 days ago
I was watching

@All-I’m-Sayin’
. He interviewed Thomas awhile ago. Does a good current events show

FakeTaswegian
3 days ago

@warren-g
Not sure as to why but they wouldnt have allowed any ,eaningful amount to move to germany.

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
o/

Based Chungus
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Any tips for or rants on the schizomaxxing archetypes? I feel like you tone down your third eye a lot on streams lol…trump’s right ear….

warren-g
3 days ago

@FakeTaswegian
i wonder why the germans were so buddy buddy with muslims…they were doing it in the first world war..perhaps it was “enemy of my enemy” thing

@david_smith
3 days ago

@theopenroad
lol i figured that

FakeTaswegian
3 days ago
That being said im sure the original muslims like the old persians and hindus were not like the current ones.

TheOpenRoad
3 days ago

@david_smith
I meant to post that in another chat…

Dillinger
3 days ago
Yeah, Rudolf Hess was treated with no dignity

Callaghan
3 days ago

@LoveandDivision
Dr Jim Wickstrom was right

FakeTaswegian
3 days ago
Just because Hitler said nice things about certain muslim practices doesnt mean anything admirable is coming from its adherents today.

@Thad88
3 days ago

@HarryHoller
:neutral_face:

@david_smith
3 days ago

@theopenroad
Thanks for the heads up mate

Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@Lebensraum
\o

Harry Holler
3 days ago
Jews are our god in the West

@Lebensraum
3 days ago

@WaltherMauser
Its all good, i appreciate the effort Brother

Av’it
3 days ago
Jesus also talks about the coming man in “The parable of the Tenants’ to the High Priests and Pharisees.

TheOpenRoad
3 days ago
Thomas Sewell is Live

@david_smith
3 days ago
God does nothing, you have to do it.

@Lebensraum
3 days ago

@Mindmyriad
Good Evening o/

Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
lol, beat me to it

@Lebensraum
3 days ago
Walther

@Lebensraum
3 days ago

@WaltherMauser
Thanks Walter !

Heeb Watch
3 days ago
Evening from Denver, CO Chat & Sewell \o

@Lebensraum
3 days ago
Your not boring if you got a few braincells to rub together, and some will to power

@drifthamlet
3 days ago
Tom needs to to another episode of Racist Couch

@drifthamlet
3 days ago
Pisslam

@Lebensraum
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
Thankyou. Appreciate it

@jbc77
3 days ago
the talk has been outstanding.

@Lebensraum
3 days ago
Is Toms interview with Schaefer only on Rumble errr? Cant find it on Schaefers channel here

Wizard in the Woods
3 days ago
Tabula Rasa – blank slate. People are covered with beliefs and ideas that they’ve picked up like a nasty windshield filled with bugs. Enlightenment is an unprogramming. That’s the child-like state of truth.

@Nemo
3 days ago
You have to add a bank account to your Odysee account in order to receive donations. Odysee has very low fees compared to other livestream platforms.

WaffleStake
3 days ago
you can still trade them on some exchanges?

@Nemo
3 days ago
Those Odysee LBC tokens are completely worthless since being shut down by the (((US Securities Exchange Commission)))

@Thad88
3 days ago
:blind:

@Thad88
3 days ago

@aMan
being gay and Blue Orbital is moron

@Nathan_Swindon
3 days ago
Rumble maybe

@drifthamlet
3 days ago
Hail Sewell

Harry Holler
3 days ago

@aMan
100%

Blue Orbital
3 days ago
being a christian and against jewish power is a oxymoron

Harry Holler
3 days ago
“Because muh Jeebus was a jew too”

Walther Mauser
3 days ago
Bad Tölz Junkerschulen type streams are the best.

Harry Holler
3 days ago
That Elijah Schaffer interview was a godike performance, Thomas.

Av’it
3 days ago
Better is the little that the righteous has
than the abundance of many wicked.
17 For ythe arms of the wicked shall be broken,
but the LORD zupholds the righteous.

Dillinger
3 days ago
Near death experiences

Harry Holler
3 days ago
Come on, follow Jesus, and just spread the other cheek when the jews fuvk you over

Harry Holler
3 days ago
Lol. Thank you.

Wizard in the Woods
3 days ago
Welcome to the higher IQ chat

Harry Holler
3 days ago
goddamn. Red Ice was boring the shot out of me

AMALEK INTERNATIONAL
3 days ago
It goes all the way back to Cro-Magnon VS. Neanderthal. Jews have high levels of neanderthal admixture; they are the descendants of the human-neanderthal hybrids discovered in Israel:
https://forward.com/culture/434525/evidence-of-human-neanderthal-hybrids-found-in-israeli-cave/

@CampsLindburgh
3 days ago
heaven is true, beautiful and good

Dillinger
3 days ago
Varg’s belief is basically reincarnation, but only if you mate within your own race

AMALEK INTERNATIONAL
3 days ago

@Spikeedgecrusher
Yes; Trump will just put the normiecons back to sleep. Kabala Harris and her Jewish husband would be the best strategic choice for 3rd positionists

@Spikeedgecrusher
3 days ago
I personally want Trump to lose. I want White Americans to realize that no one is coming to save them, demographics are destiny, and non whites are voting against them based on race. I don’t think his assassination would have lead directly to a civil war but soead up the process

@Dangbot
3 days ago
cool

@WhiteWalker
3 days ago
They need the White representation so they will fight for Israel, thats it.

FakeTaswegian
3 days ago
Whats odd about muslims and indians. Is that islam talks about certain health rules and wrestling and the hindu gods are portayed as these jakced warriors, but every muslim & indian in melbourne is lanky or fat.

@TaderWaffen
3 days ago
jews have propoed up trump to all ends

@xero
3 days ago
ghandi was a fag

Dillinger
3 days ago
Low barrier to entry for islam…

The Pork Report
3 days ago
LOL

Walther Mauser
3 days ago
lol

@Yaschenkoi
3 days ago

@Yaschenkoi
3 days ago
are you religious, Tom?

My Awesome Channel
3 days ago
this is the most boring content I have ever seen

@xero
3 days ago
remember to conserve your vril/seed bros

W.W.C.M.
3 days ago
Superorganism

Based Chungus
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Any tips for or rants on the schizomaxxing archetypes? I feel like you tone down your third eye a lot on streams lol…trump’s right ear….

@ringeringeraja
3 days ago
mass deportations to africa asap

@xero
3 days ago
who would win: every top ‘intellectual’ in the West vs 1 aussie construction worker?

@TaderWaffen
3 days ago

@tbs12345678
im sure he has other social media that you can reech out, but to be honest ive never seen Sewell live like other guys

Operation Werewolf
3 days ago

@TaderWaffen
is ther any otherway?

@TaderWaffen
3 days ago
its possible that hees not seeking donations

The Governess
3 days ago

@tbs12345678
looks to be disabled

@TaderWaffen
3 days ago

@tbs12345678
it says only creators with verified cash accounts.

Operation Werewolf
3 days ago
Can anyone else not donate to this page?

Callaghan
3 days ago
TEAM WHITE UNITE

Boomer Nerd
3 days ago
[Isa 3:12 KJV][as for] my people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

@CampsLindburgh
3 days ago
if your society’s norms/morals run counter to nature, it’ll be enslaved and gang raped by a society with norms that are in concordance with nature

@TaderWaffen
3 days ago
terrible

@Littledrummergoy
3 days ago
HH and I don’t mean the WWF

The Governess
3 days ago
o/

@ringeringeraja
3 days ago
good evening, brothers

@Nathan_Swindon
3 days ago
Listening on a forklift o/

MajesticCasual
3 days ago
o/

@polarbeard
3 days ago
o/

W.W.C.M.
3 days ago
88 o/

@rat88
3 days ago
o/

@TaderWaffen
3 days ago
fuck niggers and jews

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[Millennial Woes continues his tradition of a yearly (now 8th) Millenniyule series of interviews that started in Dec, 2015.

Here, in his 63rd, and last, Millenniyule interview for 2022, Woes chats “briefly” (420 mins) on many topics with Morgoth, of Morgoth’s Review.

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Dec 30, 2022

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[00:00]

[Intro Music]

[00:48]

Woes: Hello and welcome back to Millennial Eight. This is the final interview stream this year, and the penultimate stream. And it’s with the much venerated Morgoth, of Morgoth’s Review. I don’t think he needs any introduction. He has been a heavy hitter on Millenniyule in previous years. One of the main figures in the movement. Morgoth. Welcome back to Millenniyule.

Morgoth: Hello again. Thanks for having us on. The pressure is always on, I guess the first year that I’m really feeling the pressure of the last stream, the big hype stream and everything. Maybe next year just kind of plop me in the middle of the schedule or something, because I do feel it. I’m just a bloke with an opinion at the end of the day.

Woes: [chuckling] I’m sorry. Maybe I laid it on a bit. I remember sending you a thing last night:

“Morgoth descends on Millenniyule tomorrow!”

Like the original over Arda, Descended Upon Arda. [chuckling] Yeah, it was just a comment I saw from someone. Don’t worry about it.

Morgoth: Especially because you’ve got people on who are publishing books and everything. [chuckling] I’m just a bloke from the Northeast, so I’m acutely aware. Hopefully I can say something of interest which hasn’t been covered because what I’ve managed to gather is being great this year.

I mean, I have to say that I’ve been taking a bit of a bit of a break from the Internet for the last ten days or so. I’ve hardly been online at all. I’ve done like two Telegram posts in a week or something. I think it helps. I like to do that each Christmas. Just a sort of social media Internet detox. And I’m out and about and I’m seeing people and whatnot. It’s really nice. So you really feel your brain as well.

Woes: Yes, well, that’s what I’ll be doing in the new year once Millenniyule is over, because I really do feel it becomes like a pressure cooker with all the stuff that’s going on, all the opinions being thrown around.

And of course, the disputes of various natures. So there is a lot to process. Yeah, I think it does overwhelm. So I’ll be taking a break for a few weeks, probably in January.

Well, I guess we can get to the actual meat of things. The last two years, and this has obviously been analyzed on Millenniyule this year. I don’t know how much of it you’ve watched, but people have reviewed the end of Covid as a pandemic and as a current ongoing news story. And then it’s evolution into something that for some people is historical, and for others it’s the harbinger of things to come. But then it’s supplanted in the news cycle by the Ukraine war.

So in general, before we get to what we’re going to talk about, and I should say we’re going to go through some of Morgoth’s articles on his Substack throughout this stream. That’s what we’re going to use as the sort of backbone of the stream.

But before we get to that. Would you have any overall summary thoughts about 2022, as compared to the previous two years?

Morgoth: Well, yeah, I think things are just worse. I don’t want to be like black pilling straight away on the stream, there’s plenty of time for that. But I just get the feeling that the system has just gone out of control. It’s as if there isn’t even the pretence anymore. That what the public want, it won’t matter, whatever the issue is, whether it’s the immigration, which is higher than what it’s ever been before, all this kind of Agenda 2030 stuff coming in, and how it all connects together. The billions that gets funneled to Ukraine, which we’ve never had a say in.

And we’ve got no control over what the elite are doing, and what they want to do with us!

I mean, on the quick switcheroo that happened, where Covert just died, straight away, they just kind of put it away as AA [Academic Agent] was saying, and then they got the Ukraine out. And it’s interesting because AA was saying, yeah, don’t make out your only thing.

And I was kind of on the front lines of the Covid discussion, which is unusual for me. I’m very rarely dragged into drama. But in the Covid one, I was kind of like in a prominent position on a certain side.

And I was adamant that when the Ukraine thing happened, I wasn’t going to get involved in it. My sort of geopolitics, I’m not a geopolitics bloke. And my sort of take on that is kind of a boring, petty English nationalism. I’m an isolationist.

So my general sort of view is that England, Britain, the UK, should just stay alone. It’s just stay out! Like we’ve been messing around in people’s affairs, over the world for hundreds of years now. And I’m just, enough is enough! Can we not just sort of dedicate ourselves to our own country, and sorting out the shit that we’re in here, before we go off on another adventure with the Americans as their little lap dog? I just get sick and tired of it!

I mean, part of the reason people hate the Anglos is because of this. It’s because of this endless sort of drive to cause trouble, and to stir a bother around the world, and meddle in people’s affairs. I just hate it!

And you can see that our London is up to their necks in it. The politicians are up to their necks in it again. So my general take on foreign affairs is that as close to being an isolationist as you can possibly be. In the way that Ireland used to be, where they would just be looking after their own country, their own borders, and whatever happens on the outside, do your best. It’s difficult. I get that, in a world of great powers. It’s difficult to remain aloof. That requires it’s own form of diplomacy. But at least have a go on it, instead of just being a bunch of shits! Who are constantly stoking up trouble around the world, which we’ve been doing for way too long!

[07:47]

So that’s my general view on foreign affairs. And the thing where Covid ended, and I was like:

“Well, that’s good in a way, because, I call my brand ‘Morgoth’s Review’. I like to discuss movies, and books, and things like that.”

But that’s always the content that I do, which always gets sidelined for more serious things. So there’s people who send me a message or send me an email about this or that movie or something. And I’m like, I haven’t even watched it because there’s all this stuff going on!

And so when the Ukraine war kind of started, I was like:

“Well, okay, so I’m out of this one. I’m not going to be getting in drama on Telegram because of this one. This is not my thing. I’m sitting out!”

And you can actually see it on the Substack. I went back and [chuckling] I was talking about movies, and books, and things, and then did a few videos on them as well. The classic movie streams with Endeavour. And everything. And I was kind of thinking, like:

“Well, maybe we did get carried away!”

Maybe at the end of the day, because the other side of the argument towards the sort of the technocratic thing. And I don’t want to get hung up on this because I know AA has covered it well, and I agree with all of what he was saying last night.

I did a video in 2021 called, The Elephant and the Whale, which is similar to what he was saying last night. Where you’ve got this technocratic power and then you’ve got the power which is rooted to a geographical location. When the Ukraine war started, it was kind of like the elephants, as I call it, they kicked back. I know what the Third Positionists were saying all along, which was like, there’s a conflict if you’re talking about having One World Government, One World system, there’s going to be a conflict with regional powers because they do have their own interests.

The American Deep State has its own interests around the world and especially in the Middle East. And this is going to run counter to an actual sort of One World system. So you get that tension there which isn’t new, which has been around for a long time.

So I was thinking, well, okay, maybe we got a bit carried away and there’s a bit more life in the elephants than we thought, and all of that. And I was like, well, whatever the case, we’ll see how it pans out.

And then as the conflict deepened, I was thinking maybe the sort of the technology stuff, maybe it isn’t as much of a danger as we thought. We didn’t get the digital IDs.

Woes: Not yet!

[10:49]

Morgoth: Not yet. Well, yeah, and then all of these other things and then as the conflict eaten I was thinking all of a sudden it was like:

“Oh, no! The fertilizers supplies have been cut and there’s going to be like, food shortages and we’re going to have to eat the bugs!”

And then it was like:

“Oh, no! We’re not going to be able to import all of this cheap energy anymore from Russia. We’re going to have to go full sustainability and especially following the Agenda 2030!”

And then there was all these different things began to come out of it. You’ve got to be kidding me! I thought this was done with! I felt like Sarah Connor on The Terminator, when the Terminator blows up in that tanker?

Woes: Yeah [chuckling]!

Morgoth: She’s given Kyle Reese, like, a kiss and a cuddle:

“It’s all over!”

And you see the wreckage, and the background begins to move and you think:

“Oh, Christ almighty! It’s still there, it’s still coming after us!”

So that was my general kind of thing on all of that. But I deliberately didn’t involve myself with the drama around which side to take on Russia and Ukraine. As an Englishman, I can only speak for England. My view is we should just keep out.

Woes: Yeah. Well, I think it’s not as much of a contradiction as some people are saying. We’re between Covid and the Ukraine. I think it’s alarming how quickly this occurred in time together. But the Ukraine, War doesn’t mean that Covid didn’t happen and wasn’t significant, or vice versa. I think it’s just two different factions at the elite level who to some extent are vying for power and to some extent are cooperating.

And as you just said, it’s strange, and this is the point made by the [word unclear] among others, it’s strange that a lot of the goals of Agenda 2030 are accelerated by the Ukraine, War. So these aren’t even in contradiction, really.

They’re in contradiction, I guess you could say, in terms of mentality or attitude, but not in terms of end results, really. I mean, the end result is still going to be that a lot of Europe, let’s say life in Europe is going to be markedly different from how it was in 2019, just as they said in 2020:

“We’re never going back to 2019.”

And now the energy shortage, the synthetic food, and all that.

Why aren’t we planting food right now? Why aren’t we planting vegetables? And I said this in I think it was, whenever it was, April or something. Why are they encouraging British farmers to stop farming? That’s insane! At a time when exports from Russia and Ukraine are completely disrupted. And then again in the Netherlands, the same thing. Why are they trying to shut down 30% of the farming sector, at a time like this? It’s completely insane!

During the war, people were and it was encouraged by the State. I don’t know to what extent it was organized by the State, but people were plant using grassland anything, any land that was available, to plant vegetables to stave off the shortages. But no one’s doing that now.

Morgoth: I did a video for it. They called them Victory Gardens. They would grow potatoes on the roundabouts, and sports fields were turned into cabbage patches, and all of this kind of thing:

“Dig for victory!”

And all of this. So you had this big sort of national effort to use all of the ground that was in the country to turn it into producing food.

And we were not doing anything of the sort, despite the fact we could easily in lots of different ways. The reason they’re not doing that is because their bosses have invested their billions in all of these fake foods. And that’s what they want to feed us.

[15:16]

Woes: There’s a thread by Andrew Anglin on Twitter. He’s now up to 12K, by the way. And he’s saying that well, it’s looking very bad, especially for Germany. But then that has repercussions all across Europe. They want regime change in Russia, they might well want regime change in China as well. Germany is going to have to deindustrialize. It’s going to be massive, the repercussions of all this.

He thinks that it will dominate the entire century. And he may be wrong. I don’t really see why he would be, but it seems quite obvious. If you don’t have cheap energy, you cannot have an industrial powerhouse. I don’t really know what else to say about that. Maybe we’ll get back to it later. Unless there’s anything else you’d like to say in summary about the year?

Morgoth: Not really. I mean, I think it feels as if we’re in free fall. Maybe I said that last year, but it feels worse this time. There’s some of the things that I’ve covered and all of it traces back to this kind of technocratic thing. In one of the videos that I did this year, it was quite late in the year, I think it was September or something, was a deep dive into Serco and how that connects with the migrant crisis and all of this kind of thing.

And over the course of the year I began with rounding up on the Covid stuff, I was doing cultural stuff. And then as things went on in the year, I began to sort of think of it in terms, … You have to conceptualize this, all the people who rule us, … I did a video on this which got a lot of views. It was just a quickie one with my phone as well when I was out for a walk.

But basically it seems like the people who rule us are at war with us! I don’t know how you can put it in a different way. Now you can say that:

“Well, we’ve got these plans that they want to implement. All of the Green Agenda.”

And they’ll have reasons for that which I can come on to later. I don’t want to go too much on Spengler because I know like, [word unclear] and [word unclear] we’re talking quite a bit about it. But I think there is a sort of logic behind what they’re trying to do, but it’s purely indifferent to the wishes of the people.

And I think it gets to a point where you ignore the wishes and the well being of the people to such a degree that it actually does become like malicious and malevolent, and something really sinister! What you just said about not growing vegetables, not growing food, is part of that you think, well, okay, a responsible government would think:

“Well, okay, let’s get on board with this. Let’s use all of these nudge departments and applied psychology NGOs for something which is actually useful, instead of just manipulating them and cattle prodding the public and going along with stuff which is which is destroying them!”

Because that’s all they do. I mean, like, why do these nudge departments exist in the first place? All of this clever, as Brian Garrison always says on UK Column like this applied psychology, we’re just swimming in it in Britain, much more than what people realize.

Everything which comes out of the government or which is in the adverts, it all connects. Even the story lines on soap operas now are like a sort of memo which has come out of an NGO and extremism.

Woes: So prolefeed at this point in 1984, it’s made by machine, it’s just bullshit. Except at least prolefeed sort of left you alone to live whatever degenerate life you wanted as a proletarian. The nudge stuff is actually reprogramming you all the time!

Morgoth: All the time. And you can see it. UK Column do this where they dig into the sort of the internal papers of the government and the language that they are using. And it’s always this kind of abstract language, it’s always like changing perceptions, perception management, so that something which is destructive or something which is wrong is then sort of presented in a way which is like positive, or at least neutral. And they do it on everything. And I think the people kind of sense that there’s something not right, but cannot quite explain it.

And so as the year went on, the term, I picked it up from Andy Nuigi [sp] where he was calling it “High Strangeness”. And I really liked the term and I liked the way he was using it. Where you suspect that something isn’t quite right, but you can’t really explain it. And you can’t prove it either. And part of this is where I think it’s across the West, but obviously in Britain, and it’s because we basically live in land which we don’t know what the truth is of anything.

I mean, there’s so much sort of discussion around things with Covid, around with the vaccines and everything. But the truth is we don’t know because we’re not being told the truth! And whatever comes out of the government will be filtered through various sort of NGOs and nudge and applied psychology departments. So that what you actually are presented with is the most positive outcome for the government itself. And it doesn’t make any sense. And you’re just supposed to go along with it. And you see this over and over again!

[21:48]

Woes: I might just interrupt. I think maybe the most egregious, crass, example of this is that they are clearly replacing the population. They’re pumping Africans into Europe, and into Britain at alarming, unbelievable numbers! And meantime, they’re saying to you, the “Great Replacement” is a conspiracy theory! So you’ve got obviously contradictory things going on there by the same people, the government. And you’ve got to somehow reconcile that. While your town changes around you, your government are telling you that it’s not happening! That’s just a crazy thing to think. Oh fuck!

Morgoth: Even the way that they’ll do that. When they had this thing was at that little town in Yorkshire where they were going to just destroy it with asylum seekers. What was that called again? I forgot the name.

Woes: Linton-on-Ouse.

Morgoth: Yeah, even there. So you got locals and some people going along and they’re putting a fight or protesting. But even there you got this kind of fake opposition, NGO, Hope Not Hate connected thing which went in. And when they go in, it’s all of the language they add as well, like outreach programs, challenging perceptions, and challenging preconceptions, and local community, presenting a positive outcome. And all of this technocratic language, which just means population management. Really, it just means bamboozling the population with horseshit so they don’t know if they’re coming or going anymore.:

“Well, we just like our village the way it is. Yes, but why is that? Why do you hate these people?”

Because the question that you always get is:

“Well, okay, what do we do about it instead of moan?”

And I think the question that we need to have is on sovereignty. Because we tend to forget that the government is supposed to represent us, and they don’t.

None of this stuff has been voted for! None of this is the will of the people! All of the climate change stuff that they’re bringing in. And once again, you’ll see that on the back end in the Deep State, there’s all of these White papers being published about how to get people along, how to kind of create incentive structures, how to change people.

If you’re going to have like, fake meat or something, it’ll be where what they’ve discovered is that the kids, like, young people will more than likely go along with fake meat burger, like a “beyond meat burger” or whatever, than their father. So what they’re doing is finding ways for the young people to shame older people and frame it in a way where:

“You’re just sort out of touch and you just don’t get it. You’re stuck in the past! Look at this, this is healthier, this is cheaper, this is more sustainable!”

Yeah, it’s all of this psychological manipulation. And people half the time don’t even understand what it is.

But the problem is we’re supposed to be living in a liberal democracy. The government is supposed to represent us in Parliament, and our interests. And it just doesn’t happen. What you’ve got instead is top down technocratic control. It’s just that it calls itself a liberal democracy. They just didn’t change the name.

I was thinking today, if you go back, if you got on a time machine and you went back to 1980 and, you know how on Millenniyule you’ve had people kind of going through all the events of the year? And if you went back to somebody, you went into a pub in 1980 and you said:

“Hello, I’m from 2022.”

And they say:

“Oh God, what’s its like? Flying cars, spaceships and all of this?”

You’ll be like:

“Well, no, there’s none of that. The government forcibly vaccinated the entire population with something experimental. They are letting in a million immigrants a year. And then you’ll be surveilled and you’ll be deplatformed, you’ll be persecuted if you complain about it too much. People now get arrested for praying silently in their own heads against abortion clinics. We are going to outlaw the car!”

And you could just go on on! They would think:

“Jesus Christ! What happened! Was a revolution? Is it some kind of crazy communist dictatorship which somehow took over?”

And you’d say:

“No. It’s liberal democracy. We call it the same thing. It’s just that the actual substance of it is radically different!”

And you can say:

“Well, maybe the population never really did have a say, even in 1980.”

But I think they had a bit more of a say than now. At least it wasn’t like this.

Woes: I think they were taken more seriously by the government, because even if the government was even by then controlled by globalist institutions, and I think it probably was. Even if democracy was always a sham, and I think it probably was, I think they still were scared of the public in a way that they simply aren’t now. Well, I don’t know about that. Maybe not quite the right thing because they are scared of the public. But it’s more like contempt, like you would despise a wild animal that could attack you at any moment, that kind of thing. This notion of the public as a fickle, aggressive, mass of just unthinking apes, that seems to be the general perception.

I mean, again, I come back to the White House and I’m sorry to go over to America for this, but I think it’s largely transferable to here. The White House when Biden first got in, and the army were all outside the big fence, all of that. That seems to be an administration that does fear the public, but not in a good way, not in the way that the government is supposed to fear the public, in a democracy. In a the democracy the government is supposed to fear the public insofar as it doesn’t want to let them down, doesn’t want to fear them voting them out at the next election. Respects them, takes them seriously.

It’s not like that it’s more like that wild dog could bite us at any moment unless we keep it under strict control. That seems to be the attitude that the government now has towards the public.

And I think that’s basically what’s changed here. I think in the past, up until I don’t know, it would be difficult to set a date on this gradual continuum, really, rather than a hard change. In the past, I think the government felt:

“We’ve got to at least pretend to take them seriously. We’ve got to at least pretend to care about them. We’re going to at least pretend to care about what’s good for them.”

Whereas at this point, it’s just:

“You’ll do what you’re told or you’ll be deplatformed, demonetised, discredited, demonized, hounded down, your house raided, knock on the door in the middle of the night, or whatever. Your bank account closed down, newspaper articles about, you lose your job. It’s kind of totalitarian.

[30:08]

Morgoth: It’s funny because I mentioned before that I’ve kind of been quiet for the last week, or ten years even, I don’t know, at least since the 21st when I went on Christmas. But I just wanted a Christmas break, basically. But what that does is give me time to sort of catch up on what nerds on YouTube are talking about, what new movies are, the slagging off, and all of this.

I’m coming to this because I’ve been writing a script all day for a video essay, which I’m hoping to get out soon. And what happened. What I discovered, of course, just taking a break from the politics and dabbling a little bit of nerd culture, is that Disney released a Star Wars series called Andor, which wasn’t shit! And it wasn’t even that woke, but it was really gritty and kind of sinister. And the usual kind of Molar [sp], Critical Drinker, and all that crowd, was saying it was great.

I thought okay, fair enough. And what it does is depict – I don’t want to give too much away because this will be a video essay – but what it does, Andor, is kind of a realistic portrayal of what life was like living under the Empire. So there’s no light sabres in it. There’s no Sith. There’s no Jedis, and all of this. It’s just these bureaucrats. And they’re also highly effective. They’re also very intelligent.

And what I thought was interesting when I was looking, and I watched it all over the last few days. And I’ve actually quite enjoyed it because it is like this meditation on totalitarianism. But what I thought was interesting about it and what I’m going to get into in the upcoming video is that a lot of people on the Left, like the Left sort of video essayists on YouTube with massive channels, like 650,000 channels and stuff. And they were also celebrating it. One of them called Just Right. They were saying like it was Antifascist art. So what it was, was a meditation on life under fascism.

My response to all of this is like, it’s funny that they have to always look back at fascism, as their “go-to”. When you dig into it, it turns out it is like Marxism. It is about fomenting rebellion against totalitarianism. The script writer admitted it. And the main character is supposed to be modeled on a young Joseph Stalin.

But I thought it was kind of weird because when you look at it, it’s got a Brutalist architecture and everything, what they’ve done, I thought it’s kind of weird because they’re saying they are sympathizing with the rebels who are to the point where people are literally having their bank accounts closed down. The Empire have got new legislation to trace, like which funds are going where and whatnot. Give me a second. It’s all about these rebels. And some of them are idealists, some of them are anarchists, some of them just want to go off-grid. Some of them are saying, …

Woes: Like very familiar!

Morgoth: That’s exactly what I put in the essay! Amongst the kind of the rebels, because they’re not yet organized or anything. All they are is they’re kind of collectively pissed off and sick of the empire, but they haven’t got a clue what to do about it. So this kind of new series traces that process.

And what I thought was interesting about the big sort of Lefty channels was that they were saying this is Antifascism, which it was. But what they’re doing is assuming that they are like the rebels, they are the revolutionaries. But can’t they see that they are actually the empire? Like a fucking tyranny! Because that’s the truth! But they can’t own up to that, they can’t admit that they’ve got too much power, and that they’re vindictive.

I mean, all you’ve got to do is look at Oxford Street. That could be the utter domination of the rainbow flag, with all the triangles in it. I don’t even know what you call that one. But that’s that was an imperial form of domination! Jesus Christ, man! They’ve got people kneeling to black men! Like literally kneeling to their icons. But they are, what the rebels? No! They need to understand what it is they have become and what it is they actually do.

[35:19]

Because I don’t believe we are living under a Marxist system, I think we’re living under a sort of hypercapitalist oligarchy, and they just use Left-wing types as useful morons, useful idiots, as the kind of the bureaucratic core.

Because as I say, you don’t need this. When they talk about the “banality of evil”, and that will chaff at people in the chat, I think, because it’s Hannah Arendt when she’s talking about Adolf Eichman, I think it was. But the main point to that was that she’s saying when you actually look at evil straight in the face, it isn’t anything metaphysical, it isn’t anything mysterious, or esoteric. It is like a kind of boring bureaucrat.

In our time and the system that we’re living with, that’s absolutely the case. There’s nothing mysterious or deep about these people who do it. They are just like automatons. If you look at somebody like Jeremy Hunt, or Tony Blair, or Rishi Sunak, or Matt Hancock, they are all nothing but managers and bureaucrats! There’s nothing more to them than that. And yet these are the kind of the petty bureaucrats. And that’s not the top, for God’s sake! Like the ones in the local councils who cover up atrocities in Rotherham and all of this, they’re even worse. They’re just completely brain dead!

And this is how the system functions. And there’s a conspiracy theory that goes around by that John O’Looney, or something, he always comes out with it. And it’s that the migrants who are coming over the English Channel, like they are actually secretly UN soldiers. And that at some point in the future, there’s a signal going to go, there’ll be a new lockdown or something. And all of these, like, migrants are going to, like, don their uniforms and be like boots on the ground, occupying force.

I just think it’s so wrong, because it doesn’t understand the nature of the tyranny that we’re living under. It isn’t hard power. We’re in a Panopticon, where everybody, … If you go to the pub, this is something that I did post on Substack. I got kicked out of a pub by a barmaid at the end of June, at the end of summer, because of my politics. It’s a funny story that I could go into, but, …

Woes: It wasn’t even your politics, insofar as nationalism, or whatever, was it? Was it not about the, … You tell the story.

Morgoth: So I went into a pub. I was in an area in Tynmouth. And they’ve got these pretentious little sort of pubs there. And I popped in because I don’t like the vibe there, but I do like the real ale. It’s kind of like I know it’s hipster and all of that, but nevertheless, there are some lovely stouts. I like a nice pint.

So I went in and I was having a few pints. I stood at the bar talking to the blokes, and these places are very small, so you’ve got, like one barmaid.

I just looked at her and she had, like, bright red hair, she had the piercings, she was fat. I knew that this was a product of the university. I knew that she was going to be Left-wing.

And I got talking, I had about three or four pints, but I got talking to a couple of fellows at the bar, just general chat. And it got on to the Ukraine kind of thing. And my general point was that the West had provoked Putin. Because they had this kind of standard bulldog nationalist take where it was kind of like toy boy Twitter, where this is now the great sort of patriotic struggle, and we’re going to stick it to the Ivans. And it’s like this sort of post modern replica of World War II, over and over again. It got a little bit of a heated discussion, but it was just blokes at the bar, you know what I mean?

So the barmaid was just throwing me daggers! And what I thought was interesting about it was that she kind of watches over the atmosphere of the bar. And she has her own politics embedded within her, which she’s picked up. She’s from university or whatnot. But the thing is, she is politicized. But most of the blokes, most of the normies in the pub, like, they wouldn’t be they were just a herd. But when she heard me going to talk and coming out with certain opinions, nothing controversial. But there was something in her which detected that I was an enemy. And it was like she had to protect the flock.

[40:58]

Woes: It’s interesting. I wonder what it was. Was it your body language, facial expressions, things you said? How did you give yourself away here?

Morgoth: Because I was saying that the West provoked Putin. And I was mentioning about how it’s the “next thing”, what do you call it? The “current thing”? And I was talking about how everybody had Ukraine flags and they had replaced their mask avatars with Ukraine flags. And I was mainly focusing on how easily brainwashed everybody was and that it was mainly just the money power, and this is it.

And she came around behind the bar. So it was me, and by this time one of the fellows left. And I was talking to this blog and I was saying, I mentioned offhandedly, the Chinese came into it. And I said that our leaders don’t look out for us, because at this time I was saying we’re going to sit in the cold in winter. And for some reason or another, I can’t remember exactly, but I said that:

“The Chinese aren’t ruled by retards, and we are.”

And she screamed from behind the bar:

“You will not use that word in here!”

And I said:

“What word? Chinese?”

And she said:

“No! The other one beginning with R!”

And she says:

“Do not use that kind of word in here.”

And I said:

“Why? Is ‘retard’ politically incorrect now?”

And she went:

“Yes, it is in here!”

And I said:

“Look, at the end of the day, you’re a barmaid. Are you not supposed to pour the pints, and just sort of shut up?”

And she said:

“You not just supposed, …”

Like I’ve been drinking in bars in the Northeast since the mid 90s. Like, I’ve never known anything like this! I said:

“I’m being thought policed by the barmaid in the bar here?”

And she said:

“It’s in my contract that I have to keep, …”

What was it again? It was some kind of bureaucratic language about keeping it civil and all of this kind of thing. And I was like, all right.

But what she was really doing was a “flex”. She was letting me know that she’s in a position of authority, and that she having to sort of reel me in, if, you know what I mean. She was thinking:

“He’s an enemy! He has ideas and a way of expressing himself that I’m not comfortable with. He’s not a normie. He’s in the game! He is politicized!”

So what happened next was that obviously by this, I went off on a long speech about how the Deep State and capital and how easy it was for them to Hoodwink the Left into being useful idiots. And I said:

“You remember when you had all the Left against war. And look at them now, they’re all like, ‘oh, let’s nuke Russia’!”

And I went into how easily manipulated they were. And all you had to do was give them a sense of authority and a sense of power. And of course, she sat behind the bar like just soaking all of this up. And she was fucking seething, she was! [Woes bursts out laughing].

I was saying, they were the most pathetic bastards on earth! I was saying:

“All you need to do is let them feel great, let them see it nice, and they will literally support Big Pharma. They will literally support the Deep State! And all we have to do was promise to plant Rainbow Flags in Kiev. Oh, sorry, “Keeth”, because that’s the new thing. We just changed our minds like this.”

And she was just going, honestly, she was just like staring straight into the back of the head.

And the conversation went on. It got a little bit more controversial because I began talking about immigration, and stuff, as well. [Woes bursts out laughing] There was two blokes there, and I said:

“You do know that you’re going to be, or your kids are going to be, minorities in Britain?”

And these are sort of, for a start, like, this is two middle aged White blokes in a bar in North Tynside.

And one of them turned around, just laughed, and he said:

“So what! Who cares?”

And she put her hand on her hip and she was kind of like:

“Yes, so what have you got to see it as that?”

And I was like:

“Well, okay, can you name me a single other ethnic group in all of history who have willingly and rapidly allowed themselves to become a minority in their own country? Has it ever happened, or did they not fight tooth and claw for that territory? You can’t claim that this is a normal state of affairs, when you are the outlier in all of human history!”

And then she said:

“Oh, well, so you’re a racist now on top of everything else?”

And I went:

“Here we go again.”

I said:

“You’re just regurgitating things that you’ve heard on the television.”

I said:

“You’re like a robot. It’s just like these little attack words again and again.”

And she said:

“I think you’re just going to have to leave. I’m not putting up with this!”

That was it. And I was like, I’ll finish my pint. That’s it. And as I walked out, like, three or four people cheered! As if:

“He’s gone! Finally, he’s gone!”

And, you know, it was like Al Pacino in Scarface leaving the restaurant:

“Say goodbye to the bad guy.”

And I just thought:

“There’s no way ever, you’re going to reach these people. Never!”

Woes: This thing about the English pub is very important. It’s possible that non-Brits who are listening to this perhaps won’t get the significance of the situation you’re describing. Because the English pub, and the Scottish pub, were places where I mean, it would have been unthinkable, even in our adolescence, it would have been unthinkable that something like this would happen. That a mere conversation, would lead you to get thrown out of a pub!

Because the pub is a place where traditional sort of rowdy atmosphere, it’s not family friendly, it’s definitely not politically correct, it’s the place where men discuss everything! Everything! And there are no holds barred.

That’s kind of almost the point of the pub, in a way. You could say it has a weird sort of Internet blood sports thing. And I hate to say that, but it’s got this weird sort of egalitarianism about it where men of all classes, and it’s men. It’s specifically, men, who would go to pubs on their own.

Men of all classes would go to the pub and get into quite heated discussions with each other about everything! Whether it’s football, current events, religion, politics, whatever, everything! And probably also very sort of autistic niche subjects as well, everything.

And the idea that debate would be circumscribed in a pub is just laughable! Up until this era, up until now! Like the last ten years. Prior to that, it’s just unthinkable.

[49:06]

Morgoth: I did say it was sort of pretentious, really. There was a certain type of people in there. So if you go to a kind of more chavy pub, you can actually just say whatever you want. The price that you pay is that you’ve only got, like [word unclear] Back Label and Guinness.

But when I was leaving and there was people cheering, the bad guy was leaving and all of this, I thought:

“At the end of the day, fuck you people, I’m going to go to the social club. I’m going to go and have a watery, pint of [word unclear] Black Label and be among my own kind, who are still in their way, like free!”

They may have pitbulls under the table and all of that [chuckling]. Everybody’s wearing a football top, but it’s a bit like the proles, …

Woes: I was going to say the pub you were in was more like “Outer Party”.

Morgoth: Yeah! [chuckling] But it was just the fellow who says:

“Nobody’s replacing me! I haven’t got any trouble!”

What he was trying to do, was be a kind of a bit of a macho, hard man, but in terms of justifying being ethnically cleansed in his own country! I mean, what a tit [chuckling]!

Woes: Well, [chuckling] this is it! And that leads back to things like the 90s “Lad” culture, but especially the more contemporary hipster thing, where you’ve got a guy with a big thick beard, but he’s advocating for his own replacement! Or he’s advocating for LGBT rights, or something. Just something completely the opposite of traditional masculinity. It’s very strange, it’s very perverse.

Morgoth: I said basically like, well, okay, so he was saying that nobody is attacking him, he doesn’t feel that he’s in danger. Bearing in mind, by the way, like North Tynside is still one of the Whitest parts in England. I’ll just slip that in there. But nevertheless I said:

“Well, okay, it’s a shame that the girls in Rotherham and all of these in Burnley, and all of these places where they got mass raped off immigrants, it’s a shame that they weren’t as secure as you, isn’t it?”

And then it fell back on the sort of:

“Well, White men do that as well!”

And I was like:

“No, they don’t! No they don’t. They do not do it in that ethnic way! Mainly because they’re all cucks like you!”

Woes: Well, [chuckling] yeah, that’s part of it. But also when people say this, that White men would do it too. The reason the Pakistanis do it, and I’ve got to be very careful what I say here. But people will say:

“The reason the Pakistanis do it is that they get away with it. If White men knew that they would get away with it, they’d be doing it too. They’d be gang raping twelve year old girls!”

And I simply don’t believe that they would!

Morgoth: No, I mean, it didn’t sound right the way I put that, just there, that they are all cucks. This isn’t to say that you should be doing terrible things or anything like that. But it’s more like the mentality of him where he doesn’t even see an “us and them”.

Woes: I think everyone understood what you meant. It’s an imperialistic aggressive, you could say hyper masculine thing that they are doing there. It’s not feminine, what they’re doing.

Morgoth: The outgroup will definitely see him as “the other”. It’s just that he doesn’t see any “other”. But I don’t even believe that fully. I think he was just going along with what people wanted to hear in the pub in the here and now. He probably hasn’t thought about that. He certainly didn’t know what he was talking about, because he’d never heard of even the fact there was grooming gangs.

Woes: It’s alarming! Some people really don’t. I mean, I remember just a few months after the Rotherham scandal. I was in a debate, I got into several debates on Facebook. Back in those days, I was always on Facebook, before the channel really took off. And this was what I did online, was getting to very, very involved debates on Facebook.

And time and again I found English men, British men were just insufferable! They were just absolutely awful to get into debates with! Because their priority was to be fashionable, and to show that they had fashionable views. And this was kind of a cross-class as well. It wasn’t just sort of middle class hipsters or whatever.

And I remember just a few months after the Rotherham thing that there was a guy who had never heard of it! He didn’t know! And I don’t know, I was utterly perplexed! I didn’t understand how can you not have heard about this. But I guess this is it. He probably had heard about it and he’d just forgotten, he just deleleted it. It wasn’t something that was useful to him in proving his social acceptability. It wasn’t of utilitarian value to him, so he just simply forgot it. Whenever it came up in a Facebook debate, he was lost.

Morgoth: Behind the scenes. I’ve been doing a lot of writing on a bigger project, which isn’t ready yet. But I actually touch on this a lot from a sort of [word unclear] perspective of power. And I think one of the problems is that because these immigrant groups, they are clients of power. I know, like people like to sort of pin it on like Sharia Law or whatever it is, but I think you really have to take it back to power, and the power structure.

And the fact is they are protected by power, and White people aren’t. And somebody who’s pissed off about all of this, when he looks at the immigrant group in question, he knows that there’s a power behind him, there’s a power behind that, which is the power of the State.

Woes: It’s like the barmaid behind him, staring at him, as you experienced. The same sort of thing.

[55:43]

Morgoth: Yeah. It’s not so much the immigrants themselves, it’s the fact that they know that what you’re looking at really is a friend of power, and that he isn’t. And that’s quite an intimidating thing. Because, you know, that when if anything happens and anything kicks off, power is going to back them and not you. And that’s exactly what’s happened, time and time again!

Woes: Yeah. I think this is an area where the ordinary guy is just screwed, really! Because you have to think your way into a position where you win the approval of the powerful. And at this point that means a very unnatural position. It means forgetting all sorts of things, contradicting all sorts of things.

I guess the alarming thing about the last few years and it wasn’t just Covid, it was there before then, is how amenable people, how pliable people are, how able to believe contradictory stuff they actually are. There’s not that much rationality in the ordinary person. I think this does relate to class in a way. The middle class is just the worst for this. They’re just absolutely awful for this!

I think the working class, still the Midwit meme, similar sort of thing. It’s the middle class who are just the upholders of delusion, pretension, lies, fashionable lies! It’s a Ukraine avatar. But of course, you also do get the working class who are aspiring to be middle class. And they know that the way to do it is to ape that behaviour, to have the fashionable view on everything. Because there now is a “fashionable view” on every given topic!

Morgoth: Yeah, this is part of why she detected me as some sort of heretic straight away, because in all of the “current thing” avatars, I was going through them one by one and kind of critiquing them and knocking them down.

But I did think it was interesting to think of it what we’re engaged in, because we are politicized. And then you’ve got all of these sort of normies that aren’t. And then you’ve got some chubby cow who’s like a Leftist. She’s had her own kind of political awakening in the universities and whatnot, and in all of the social circles that she moves in.

And it’s a bit like in the Matrix where you’ve got like people who are awake, and then you’ve got the Agents, and everybody else is just like these holograms, just like this dead herd. That’s actually what it’s like.

When she was aware straight away that there was something wrong with me, I was an enemy, even though I wasn’t using racial slurs, or anything like that. It was just there! It was just sort of detected, the alarms went off. And then her task was to sort of make sure are that I was contained and controlled.

Woes: To cut you off from the others present, so that your influence couldn’t spread.

Morgoth: In real life in the pub!

Woes: Just for the sake of my mental image of this girl. Was she middle class? About 25?

[59:23]

Morgoth: It’s hard to tell because they dress like shite. It’s like this deliberate dressing down. To be fair, the accent that she had wasn’t from the northeast either. It was from further south. It was more like a nondescript sort of middle England sort of accent, rather than regional.

So in a place, lake Tynemouth or Newcastle itself, there is the heavy presence of hipsters, and irritating university types. They like it for some reason. There’s a big university presence. There’s just something about Newcastle which seems to attract them. I don’t know why that is, but it’s as if they go to a place like Newcastle because it’s perceived, or once was, as being a bit earthy, and a bit kind of authentic.

So then they’ll go along and just dominate it and turn it into a hive of shit liberally! Which was even in my own drinking career, I used to go to the bars in the Big Market and it was wild! And you weren’t under control.

I used to meet up on a Saturday afternoon with all me mates. There’d be about twelve of us, and we’d go drinking. And we’d begin in a little pub in the back alley on the Big Market called Printer’s Pie. And nobody was watching what they were saying in any way at all! Even the idea of it would have just seemed incomprehensible! Nobody would have been able to believe it. And there’d be a barmaid there as well. But the barmaid’s task was to just bring your beer, and look cute.

Woes: Yeah, not tone police, for fuck’s sake!

Morgoth: Yeah.

Woes: Just on the word “retard”. When you were talking when you were telling the story, I remembered that the word “retard” gets you an instance reprimand on Twitter. It’s a word that some people, quite a lot of people have fallen foul of this. There is no context, I don’t think there is any context in which that word is allowed on Twitter. Maybe if you’re quoting someone else, you might get away with it. But it’s like a red flag word. I don’t think it would result in an immediate ban outright, but it would get picked up by the algorithm and you’d be screwed just for using that word.

In the same way as she was saying that word is not allowed in here. That is a bad word. That’s like a hate word. It’s like the N word, or whatever.

Morgoth: I mean, I thought retard was just a nicer way of saying spastic, or spaca!

Woes: [chuckling] It is! But it’s kind of like “coloured” as opposed to something stronger. It’s less bad than the very strong word, but it’s still really bad.

Morgoth: So what do you get if you call somebody a spaca?

Woes: Oh, I don’t know.

Morgoth: The thing is that’s kind of archaic, isn’t it? A lot of people [chuckling] wouldn’t even know what that was these days, who’ve been so softened, you know what I mean?

Woes: Yeah, I don’t know. This is just a horrible thing about the pub. When you first started telling the story, I had the image of her, … I didn’t catch you saying that it was a hipster place. So I was thinking it’s a stereotypical English pub.

Morgoth: But it’s difficult to actually say what that is anymore, because the pubs where I used to be able to say whatever you want, I think there’s always, … It takes you to class, because I was always in working men’s clubs when I used to go out, the Big Market was all working class.

Back in the 90s you would have places in Newcastle which were a little bit more up market, but they tended not to be pubs at all. They would be like restaurants or something. It was like if you’ve got money, if you’re well to do, you’ll go to a restaurant, and it’ll be all kind of lovey dovey, and gentle, and swanky.

But for the rest of us, sort of factory jobbers who are let out for a day to spend our wages [chuckling] on a Saturday, in one go. It was just all of the pubs, all the pubs were yours.

And what began to happen, I went away in the early 2000s and I would come back and I could see like, it used to be, where the the Quay side was like a total dump! It was really dilapidated. It hadn’t changed at all since the Get Carter movie, and all of this. But then when Blair got in because Newcastle and the Northeast in general were really big on Labour, to be fair, when Blair got in, there was just hundreds of millions got funneled into Newcastle especially. And all along the Quay side, you had all of this development coming in.

Woes: Kee? Kee? Sorry. [chuckling] Are you not familiar with that meme?

Morgoth: No.

Woes: Sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt. Go on.

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Morgoth: You had all of this development going along and the stuff that they brought in, it seemed to be like targeting, and it didn’t want people like me and my mates going in anymore, though we still did, when I came back.

But it was a much more genteel kind of thing they were bringing in. It looked different as well. The carpets and the sort of rough and tumble of the old pubs, that all went, and you got this much more sparse and everything was glass. You got more and more people from down south popping in and appearing. And it was just different.

So then you ended up where this kind of the actual Geordies would just hang out in the Big Market and then on the hay market. And it just sort of kept creeping in, until everything just, … So I don’t know. I would never go there now anyway. But it was changing, and you got all of this money coming in and it kind of changed into something more middle class than what it was.

Because I remember the Big Market was wild. It was famous for it. I’m not saying it was great, I mean, it really was just fat slags rolling around with their knickers hanging down. It deserved a bad reputation that it had. I’ve got to be careful about being too kind of romantic about it, because it was kind of grotty and seedy. And it was tough and there was people getting glassed. I’m not going to be too kind of bleary eyed and nostalgic about it all. It was a bit of a dump, if I’m honest.

Woes: The thing is, though, this process applies not only to places like that. It also applies to the kind of places that I went to in my younger days. Gothy places, grungy places, all of that has now been, I don’t know how you, blandified, streamlined, consumerized.

If you look at a place like Camden Market, for example. When I was an art student, it was 20 years ago. And it was kind of grimy, it was kind of dilapidated. And it was where middle class students, art students, and whatever would go.

And it was kind of cool. And it felt quite, I’m not going to say countercultural, because I don’t think it really was, but it was countercultural in a harmless way. But it had a nice atmosphere.

And if you go there now, it’s been New Labourized, it’s been Blairified. There’re glass and steel, the Victorian buildings have been they’ve been given contemporary extensions and add ons. And it’s big names are there now. Everything is commercialized in a way that it just wasn’t 20 years ago.

And other people will say, that’s rose tinted. Of course, there was all this commerce. Of course I know that. But there’s this fileting of culture, this streamlining, of flattening of culture, down to something that is very bland and efficient, and anyone can dabble in it.

It is a process that I think has been almost universal. I mean, I think only the most, maybe the highest echelons have been immune to this process over the last, 200 years. It’s a depressing thing!

But again, it makes me think of the World Economic Forum with their graphs and pie charts and their diagrams about how everything is going to be very streamlined in the future. It’s the same kind of process of just simplifying and just ripping the soul out of everything, whether it’s a working class pub, or some grungy place, whatever.

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Morgoth: I remember I came back and I went for a drink with me mates, and he said:

“It’s changing around here now, isn’t it?”

He said:

“They should do it on the Quay side.”

And this is before all of the multicultural language was seeping in. And I remember distinctly the first ever time I heard the word “multicultural”. I lived abroad and I was watching television. Oh, no, I was reading. I used to get the Sunday Times and I’ll have to get it on Monday. But it was a big, thick book, and I’d read it all the way through, everything that was in it. And that was like me catching up for the week on things back home.

And I remember reading an article, and I’d already seen the problems with immigration in places like France and Holland. And I remember it was sort of dawning on me that they were doing it properly now to Britain, as well.

And I remember Gordon Brown using the word “multiculturalism”. And that was the first time. It was in an article about something and it was the first time I’d ever seen that word like that. I’d never heard the word “multicultural” before! I don’t know what it was, maybe 2006 or something. And it was just sort of expected that I knew what it meant and I thought it was a good thing.

And it was strange for me because I’d been away, I hadn’t been home that much, so I was out of touch with all of these subtle changes to the language that was being used. But I knew that I hated the term straight away! Because I was like:

“We’re not multicultural! It’s our culture! And who decided this?”

Instantly, I knew that I hated it! But I went back anyway, and I went for a drink with me mate, and he was talking about some of the changes that were happening down on the Quay side. And he said he hasn’t been down there in a while.

“I like it down there these days. It’s very diverse!”

Woes: Oh my God!

Morgoth: And remember, this is somebody who’s just like me! And I thought, and I said:

“Diverse? What does that mean?”

I said:

“You’ve got the kebabs in there?”

And he’s saying:

“All those people from all over, they’ve got food stalls. It’s an amazing array of, …”

What do you call it?

Woes: An [chuckling] incredible range of restaurants!

Morgoth: It’s an incredible range of food stalls along the Quay side! It was just the way that he sort of absorbed this kind of language, which had been worked out, like I say, in the government, in the NGOs. This kind of positive sounding language.

I mean, it didn’t take him long before he changed his mind, but it was just without thinking, he’d come up with this new term. [chuckling]

Woes: Back in the day [chuckling]!

Morgoth: There was multiculturalism, and now he has me mate coming up with this word like “diverse”.

Because we’d never used language like that. We’d never used it. You would just call them foreigners. It was right there. When people say Britain’s always been multicultural. I’m not that old, but I remember a time I was an adult before I’d even heard that word.

Woes: Yeah, well, I’ve been ranting and raving of a Telegram channel called Forgotten History UK. I’ll just shill it one more time. It just started on Telegram two weeks ago or something. They’ve already got more than 1,000 followers, and it’s fantastic! And it shows mostly, mainly London, mainly in the first half of the 20th century and the end of the 19th. And it’s entirely White.

There is no way, … Even the capital was vastly, vastly White! I’m not going to go on about it because I’ve mentioned this enough times before.

But this whole idea that Britain has always been diverse or multicultural is just utter nonsense! And that’s the capital. If you then talk about a regional place like Newcastle or Edinburgh! At my primary school, there were three non-White kids. Two of them were a couple of Chinese sisters, and then there was a half black girl. That was it. I guess there were several hundred pupils, that was all. And then at my high school, there was again something like five of them out of over 1,000.

Morgoth: In all the years of me going to school, there was one black girl who was about five years older than me. And then there was another one, but she half black and she was a few years younger than me. That’s out of all of the classes and all of the years at school, that was it. That was it!

Woes: It’s just such an obvious lie. And the scary thing about this, and this relates to what we were saying earlier, is how people go along with this, who are the same age as you and me, so they know damn well! They could remember if they wanted to. They could remember their own schooling, their own childhood. And they would know that it wasn’t always diverse.

And then people older than us, people in their their fifties and sixties and seventies, who parrot this bullshit. They can remember 20, 30 years further behind, further back than you and I can. And yet even they are coming out with this bullshit. This is something I find amazing! Sorry, go on.

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Morgoth: I remember, this is true. People are surprised at this, but I swear on my life it’s true. When I was a boy, I used to stay at me grandmothers, when I was little, ten years old or something like that, and I used to take the homework over. My granddad was a very knowledgeable man. He used to help us with the homework.

And one of the projects that I had it was something to do with religious symbols. And my grandfather took a look at it and he saw that there was actually, I had this book and I opened it up and there was like all of these Sikh symbols, and there was the Hindu stuff. So it was there in the education curriculum, even that far back. But what he said, he said:

“What’s the name of the teacher who’s giving you this?”

I won’t mention it because I might give too much away, but I mentioned the name of the teacher. And me granddad went:

“I bet she’s jewish.”

And I was like qy where? Why?”

He [chuckling] kind of saw this I was looking at all of these, from his perspective, all of these kind of foreign religions that he would think I had no business learning about. I should learn about Christianity. But I was being taught these other religions. That came to haunt me years later. And I thought:

“That’s really weird that he should say that, actually!”

Woes: Very based granddad there! That’s amazing! It is amazing because, without wanting to get onto too controversial topics. It’s funny how people, … Because we think we’ve sort of alighted on some quite arcane knowledge on that matter, on the internet.

But people a long, long time before us, who certainly didn’t have the Internet, somehow knew about it. And I don’t know how they did. I really don’t know how they, … I mean, if they got into nationalist politics, organizations, or whatever, obviously I can see how they would find out about it then. But otherwise how did that enter their lives? It’s difficult enough now for it to enter people’s lives. It’s something you’ve really got to seek out. Amazing!

Morgoth: I think before the war, for that generation, basically everybody was anti-semitic. Maybe not in the way which has emerged on the internet in more recent years, but there was a certain stereotype around that group. And they all knew it as well.

Woes: But it’s not the sort of miserly, money grubbing, type that we’re talking about here, is it? With your granddad

Morgoth: Yeah

Woes: He’s talking about this woman pushing multiculturalism, but obviously wouldn’t use that term.

Morgoth: Yeah, you got to be careful what you’re saying because by ascribing stereotypes to a group and everything. So, yeah, that’s just an interesting

Woes: I certainly never want to do that. [lol]

Morgoth: That’s just a little interesting personal anecdote, take it or leave it from me.

Woes: Well, I mean, I can remember, to show the other side of it. Middle class boomer woman, teacher. A school teacher. And in many ways, she was a really good, kind, lovely person. But she imbibed the politics of that time, that era. And I think this is around about the year 2005, maybe 2010. And I said that:

“I think it’s right that school kids in Britain are taught about Christianity, and I don’t think it’s necessarily right that they’re taught about the other religions.”

And her answer was:

“They should be taught about all religions equally.”

Because from her perspective – she was an atheist. So from her perspective, it’s just a matter of curiosity. It doesn’t matter! There is no religion that is a part of our culture, that’s a part of our identity. It’s just a matter of academic interest. So therefore all religions are of equal interest, equally large, equally small, whatever. And no particular religion should have any prominence over any others.

So, I mean, that’s a truly sort of multicultural notion there. Well, it’s a boomer multicultural notion [chuckling]! Because it’s all detached, it’s distant, it’s something remote, it’s a matter that doesn’t concern us, it’s not our problem. It’s just something that’s of intellectual interest. Whereas a more contemporary multicultural treatment of it is this is a core part of everyone people’s identity.

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Morgoth: Yeah, it’s pure relativism, because then not one of them is more important than another. So you end up with nothing of your own, because, well, it’s got no place. There’s no special place for yours.

Woes: Exactly! And that was the point I was making, that Christianity should have prominence over the others because this is a Christian country. That was what I was arguing at the time. Bear in mind, this was 2005, 2010. And what I would now see is Christianity and Paganism should be taught about. And we’re not saying that religious instruction, as in:

“Here is the truth, children.”

I mean, it just learning about the religion.

I would now say, yeah, Christianity, but also Paganism. Back then, it was just, I only knew about Christianity, and I just didn’t like this idea that Sikhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, that these would be given equal place in the curriculum. I learnt about those religions at high school because I took that subject. Religious studies. Fine.!

But to say that why you should do away with Christian hymns at school, and I’m sure they have by now, I’m sure that’s just been completely eradicated. And I think that’s crazy, because this is all about identity. It’s not even about the religion itself. This is giving the children, it’s inducting them into a tradition, and if you take that away, they’re going to be inducted into no tradition! And so, of course, the only thing available to them will be to crap, popular, culture. This precious little of that as well, oddly enough. Go on.

Morgoth: Yeah, what they’ll be indoctrinated into is like, Left-wing value sets and political correctness, like inequality, and all of these things. That’s what replaced religion. I mean, again, I remember coming back. My youngest brother was still at school. And I remember coming back, and throughout all of my sort of childhood, I had one medal and two certificates or something. And the medal I got was for doing the great, some fun run thing that they had through [word unclear] Park. Basically, I had almost nothing [chuckling] like achievement.

But I came home. My brother’s bedroom was because he was still at school until the mid 2000s, and his bedroom was just completely plastered in certificates! And it used to piss me dad off because he said:

“You get certificates for nothing!”

He said he came home, he came last in a race because he got drunk with his mates the night before he went into school. He was about 14 or 15, and he couldn’t run, he could hardly finish it. And they still gave him a certificate! What kind of loser attitude is that?

And this was the whole thing when New Labor came in, you saw that all of a sudden, everybody’s “special”, everybody gets a prize, even if you’re completely useless! So what you do then is abolish hierarchy. The person who’s actually really fast in a race doesn’t really matter because you’re going to get the same thing at the end of it anyway. So you’re destroying the incentive to strive towards greatness.

Woes: Yeah, you’ve devalued excellence. It reminds me of, and I’ve mentioned it before, although not on this Millenniyule, a documentary, and it’s a fascinating thing! It’s called the Loony Left. It’s from 1985, or 86. It was an American reporter who came over to Britain, to London, and because at that time, the London had a reputation for being full of, you know, loony lefties, especially the education sector and social work and whatever.

So this journalist interviews various people and it’s remarkable! Absolutely remarkable, how the stuff that was going on in London in 1985 is the stuff that we tend to associate with the Blair era, 15 years later. We tend to think that the doctrine of multiculturalism, for example, that actually predates even this, the doctrine of multiculturalism was first sort of announced as the policy in Britain, I think, in 1981, with the Scarman Report. And, you know, it obviously floated around academia and Lefty teacher training colleges for a few years before that. But it was official as from 1981, which is just amazing to think of now.

But anyway, this documentary is full, and I would absolutely recommend that people watch it. It’s one of the most interesting things, because it shows how long a lot of this stuff has been going on. It’s not just today, it’s not just, 20 years ago, like the Blair era. It’s been going on since at least the mid-eighties. And enough that by the time that crew came over to do this documentary it was very prevalent throughout London.

And one of the things that they found was, … And I dare say it was a bit skewed, a bit selective, whatever, I don’t really care, because at this point, you know, that it is that prevalent. I mean, it’s just obvious.

So one of the things they found was right, I think I found it. Yeah, that took a while. Okay, sorry about that. Apparently it’s 16 minutes long, but I thought there was a longer version. But anyway, here it is. I’ll paste into the live chat.

One of the things they found was in this school in London where the competitive sports had been abolished. So everyone was a “winner”. And of course they did, … Oh Read Johnson has already linked to it. Thank you very much. Let me just check if that is, … Yeah, that is the version. Thanks very much.

So competitive sports have been abolished. There were no real rules. There was no way to win, and no way to lose! So therefore everyone was a “winner”! Of course, that completely gets rid of hierarchy! I have no idea how that maps onto the mind of an adolescent boy, a teenage boy. I mean, you’re built to be very competitive at that age. So I don’t know what that does to them other than neuter them.

[1:27:51]

Morgoth: I came last in one marathon one year and me dad just tossed a fit. It was horrible. He was saying:

“It’s an absolute disgrace that you’ve come last! There’s not a single other person, …”

Because it was mixed. But he wasn’t even counting the girls. It was just like you have a list of the girls names and then the boys names and I was at last, because I’ve always been shite at running. And my name was at the bottom. And he was like:

“There’s not a single other lad that you can point to say, ‘I was at least faster than him’. At least then you would have that. You’ve got nothing! You’re last! It’s the worst! Look, you’re literally at the bottom. It’s pathetic!”

And I thought:

“Christ almighty! This is a bit much, isn’t it?”

But that was the way it was.

Woes: Yeah. I had similar your dad would be embarrassed if you didn’t do well. If you didn’t do as well as he thought you could do. There was a sense of shame and that you’d let him down and you fucking had! I mean, let’s be honest, if that happens, your dad is probably right. Mothers can be a bit delusional about their children’s abilities, but fathers tend to be much more realistic. And if your dad thinks that you could have fucking done better, you probably could.

Morgoth: Yeah.

Woes: That shame you feel is, I think, healthy.

It was absolutely about at least you could point to one other person that could have been last. It’s quite a ruthless kind of mindset when you think of it like that. But it didn’t happen again. So, that’s that.

Woes: Yeah. Well, I guess we are an hour and a half into this. Do you want to talk about some of the articles that you wrote this year [chuckling]?

Morgoth: Yeah [chuckling]!

Woes: It’s been a nice chat, but let’s, …

Morgoth: Let’s get one of the ones that I did early in the year, which in January this is so early in the year, I might have actually spoiled it on Millenniyule last year. But it was called Cthulhu’s Big Data Hall. And it gets back to the whole Covid thing. And the idea that it wasn’t just about virus. There were so many more things came in with it.

And the article that I wrote plays around with the idea that what the system, what the government and the Deep State have actually unearthed about the population. And the way I approached it was that if you imagine, say, the vaccination status is the people, and if you imagine somewhere in the British government, you’ve got somebody with a giant map of, let’s just say the UK. It would be England and Wales, I think, and Scotland as a seperate thing.

But let’s just say a giant map of England and Wales. And on there, what you’ve got, this is the way I can describe it. On there you’ve got just a huge blue blob for all of the people who’ve had, let’s say, just say, two vaccines, because I’m still getting them. But two vaccines there, and it’s a massive swathe of blue, but you can kind of Zoom in, because we all got the letters to our doors from the NHS. It was a personal invite. You get text messages so they know who you are.

And what I thought was interesting was that they could Zoom all the way in on one single blue pixel, and it would be Jeff D from Burnley, and it would have his thing. But then you can kind of make that go away. And then you could have, say, orange. And what you would then have would be that all of the people who just had one vaccine and there’d be fewer of them, but there’d still be a lot. And the same thing applies. You could still scroll in and you could still Zoom in on one single orange dot.

And then you could do it again and there would be red dots, but it would be a much smaller group and they’d be spread out. And then you could still do that and you could still scroll all the way in onto somebody, on one single red dot, and that would be the unvaccinated. Now, on the face of it, that doesn’t matter, because the way people talk about it, well, this is just all about the Medicine. This is all just about vaccinating against the virus. That’s all rubbish!

Because if you think of it, like the way I’m describing it here. And you Zoom all the way in, all the way in on the one little red dot of an unvaccinated person. You’re seeing a lot more actually. What the data reveals there altogether is something a lot more than just people who didn’t get the vaccine.

Because what you’re also revealing there is the red dots that have shown up and you can see their addresses. You know who they are. They are also the people who are completely immune to the most intense propaganda campaign that there’s ever been. On top of that, they are by extension distrustful of the system. They don’t trust the government, they don’t trust the experts, they don’t trust the scientists. They are critical thinking.

In other words, what that reveals to the system all of those little red dots because of the vaccine campaign, all of them, all of a sudden, they’ve got all of the dissidents in the country standing there, sitting there on a map presenting themselves to you with their addresses and their telephone numbers. You know exactly who they are!

Now, people will say:

“Well, actually, they always did know who you were.”

But that’s not true. Now they will, I’m sure that me and Woes like, you know, we’ve popped up on the radar. But if you imagine, for example, a single millennial woman, single woman, 35, she works full-time in an office. Now, she is according to the usual sort of data sets, she is extremely compliant with what the system wants. She’ll tend to just go along with it. But not all of them will. And not all of them are in the live chat. Now, not all of them are subbed to people on Substack, or all of this. But all of a sudden, that person there’s a red dot there. And it will be, perhaps, a 35 year old woman who consumes this kind of content and who thinks like a dissident. But until that moment has been utterly grey and unknown to the system.

But now all of a sudden because of a vaccine rollout, she’s there revealed! And I’m just using that as an example. So what this allowed the system to do, … And they will think like this because I’ve read how these things work in the Nudge Departments applied psychology. What they are looking at then are people who they’d never known, weren’t actually triggering the alarms on the system. They weren’t doing content, they weren’t leaving comments anywhere.

But all of a sudden they can now see them. They can now see that benign, boring, 35 year old woman, who works full-time, pays her taxes, she’s a good citizen. But secretly she too is distrustful of the government, and she too is distrustful of the experts. And quietly she is a dissident. And now it would never be known before, but now it is known! So going forward they’ve got a complete read out of who is distrustful of the regime in this country thanks to the vaccine rollout. And that was what that article was about, which I was quite proud of, called Cthulhu’s Big Data Hall.

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Woes: Yeah. Years ago there was an advertising campaign, I think it was for either the TV licence fee, or driving, car tax, or something, and it said:

“You can’t escape the computer.”

That was the slogan that was on. I remember seeing it on huge billboards. It was quite a long time ago, actually. And it was this sort of openly flirting with totalitarianism, deliberately, knowingly saying to say:

“You can’t escape the computer.”

It’s a really shitty thing to say to the general public, because they haven’t done anything wrong, or at least not yet. And you’re basically saying to them:

“You are under the thumb. You are dominated!”

It’s very rude! It lacks any finesse at all.

And that’s the thing. It was the first time when I saw the state not even trying to have finesse, not even trying to soften the blow. It was just being completely aggressive towards the public and trying to make them feel intimidated and scared.

And that was to do with, I don’t know what it was some computerized system by which they would track who had and hadn’t paid some tax or other, whether it was a licence fee for the TV, or whatever it was. And that’s a version, an early version of what you’re talking about. But I guess that would be down to the individual address. But even then it was not exact because some people didn’t even have a TV. And certainly a lot more people nowadays don’t have a TV.

With the Covid vaccine it’s much more precise. It’s every individual within the address. And it’s definite. And it’s not just about:

“Oh, I want to dodge paying a bill. I want to see if I can get away with not paying that 20 quid.”

Or whatever it is, or 100 quid. It’s got nothing to do with money, because you didn’t have to pay for the vaccine.

So in other words, it’s a direct reflection of how susceptible you are to government programming. It’s got nothing to do with you trying to save some money. It’s are you on board or not?

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Morgoth: It’s behaviour. They’re tracking the behaviour of the population by this so the big blue blob, which is like 80% or something. People don’t seem sure. But what they’ve got there, it goes back to what I was saying earlier, the girl and the bar. Where all of a sudden, it’s like she’s monitoring the conversation in the bar to make sure that it doesn’t take directions. Another version of her somewhere in the bureaucracy is doing that for the whole population.

And what you can see is that this is the sort of the framework of a Social Credit System. Because they’ve already got all of your information. People could say that I’m just paranoid, but I actually do think they’ve absolutely got something like this where they can see all of who hasn’t been vaccinated and their revealed preferences.

It also means they’re critical thinking. They’re not susceptible as the propaganda. They don’t trust the state. That’s handy to have on people in your population, because what they’re looking at is a purely sort of Schmidtian way is their enemies! Right there! They popped up on the screen.

So when you go forward and it’ll come in in a different direction through the iPhone or tracking your carbon stuff and all of this, …

Woes: With the CBID

Morgoth: Yeah. So when people say:

“Oh, well, it’s over now.”

It’s not now. All along, the people who were going on were saying all along its about much more than a vaccine. And you can see that it’s been this giant data gathering, along with a lot of other things. But it’s been this giant sort of exercise and gathering data on the general population.

There’s no way to hide anymore. They know who you are. You’re right there. They know you don’t like them, they know you don’t trust them. And you thought:

“Oh, well, I’ll just keep my head down, and go and [word unclear] my job. I’ll watch a bit of Odyssey on the side, but I won’t have an account, so I’m not logged in anything.”

You’re still there! You’re still on the grid now.

Woes: Absolutely! And if they did want to implement something, some social programme in a town, let’s say. Let’s say Oxfordshire, for example [chuckling], they would now know exactly which residents in that area they might want to, who knows, put in prison just to get them out of the way, whatever. It doesn’t matter! Or just keep an eye on them. They would know exactly which ones are likely to cause trouble.

Morgoth: Well, do you remember when Justin Trudeau said all of these people who won’t get the vaccine, and was with the truckers and everything, he said:

“They’re extremists and they’re racists? !”

Now, if you go back and you think of that data gathering thing, I would say that this sort of the dissident right community or whatever you want to call it, and the nationalist scene, would have the highest percentage of people who didn’t get the vaccine in the whole country.

Now, if he’s got access to that data, he is actually correct. I know that it sounds ridiculous, but if he’s had, his policy wonks get in touch with him and give him data on who is actually refusing it, it may well turn up that they’ve just kind of filtered it through algorithms and you can begin to build up a picture of an average person who is refusing to get it. And it may well be that their politics swing sharply to the Right. But they are usually distrustful of the government.

I know everybody laughs when Trudeau says the people who are refusing it, they’re racist, they’re sexist or whatever. He may have a point there, he may have access to information which you didn’t realize.

Woes: Absolutely! I would say a similar thing about Brexit. I think your average sort of Brexciteer, UKIP, voter and so on, would bulk at the idea that they were racist. And the Left would constantly say, Brexit is a racist thing, Brexciteers are racists, and so on.

But I think there was a certain truth to that. It was a sort of unconscious and really genuinely unconscious feeling about homeland and your own people and so on. And you wanted them to be sovereign, you wanted them to matter again. So the Left, I often think that the Left know the Right better than the Right know themselves.

Morgoth: Yes!

Woes: But now they really do [chuckling]! Because of the technology.

Morgoth: Now they’ve got you! We’re living in a panopticon. You’ve got to assume that you’re being watched all of the time, which is why I don’t do the edgy stuff anymore, because it just seems like suicide. And the cost, is just, isn’t worth it anymore. And you can kind of get your point across just by being careful and thinking carefully about what you’re saying, how you’re putting things.

I mean, I kind of dropped the ball earlier in the stream when I was telling the story about the bar. Calling him a cuck within that context, is a little bit dodgy. I would like to take that back. But this is kind of where we are now. You’ve always got to watch what you’re saying. You’ve always got to be on the alert. How could that come across? Could that be reframed? Should I get the knock on the door, or my bank account gets closed?

This is the reality of how we live now. It isn’t coming. It’s here! And you have to be realistic about it. And a lot of the content this year has kind of reflected that. This kind of disorientating thing that you’ve got where you never know what’s true and what isn’t.

Woes: Yeah, well, that was all the way through Covid that was the case where you just didn’t know what was true and what wasn’t. We don’t need to go into that now. Let’s move on to the next article that you want to talk about.

Morgoth: Well, there’s a lot of them. Another one that I did, which is a complete shift in gear, I called America’s Toxic Rebrand.

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Woes: Yeah, I remember this one. I really liked this one! I thought you made a very good point in it about how well you can tell yourself.

Morgoth: Well, yeah, so it gives me a chance to indulge one of the sort of me favourite loves, which is like, 80s movies, and why you had that sort of positive vibe around at the time. If you look at the woke stuff now, it’s just completely rancid. And you had that Qatar football tournament, and it causes trouble because they’re trying to export the transsexual stuff, Black Lives Matter stuff, Rainbow Flag. Nobody wants it, everybody hates it.

And I thought the stuff that I grew up with, during the Christmas, I just watched all of the Indiana Jones movies again, which are problematic for different reasons. We could probably touch on that if you want. But still, it’s so much fun.

Just generally in the 80s it began to petrol a bit. In the 90s, America had a way of selling itself to the world. If you look I mean, there’s Indiana Jones, but then you’ve got, say, Marty McFly, Back to the Future, or Goonies, or Ghostbusters or all of these things. And if I was a dictator somewhere in the Middle East, I would be more worried about like Rocky than what I am about woke Star Wars, because your population are going to be immunized against just how blatant and disgusting the agenda is.

Whereas what something like Rocky does is give you a slice of the American dream. It’s saying to you, obviously it came out before Reagan came in, but it was kind of foreshadowing what was to come. And then throughout the 80s, you just got Rocky film after Rocky film. But what you’re getting is a little slice of the American dream. It’s where if you work hard, if you stick in there, stand on your own two feet literally pull yourself up by your bootstraps and all of that, then America is the land of plenty. It’s a land of freedom. The world, like in Scarface, the world can literally be yours!

So that’s a positive thing to sell. You will be free. There’s not going to be any crazy ideologues tormenting you can get comfortable. All you got to do is work hard. That’s actually a very good sell. And I’d be worried about that message creeping in.

I mean, it’s no surprise that it was at its peak in the 1980s during the Cold War. So the image that the people in Russia, or Poland standing outside of shops in lines waiting for bread, and then you get this little glimpse of America, this whole positive thing where if you just work hard, it will all be yours, and you’d be free. Nobody’s going to tell you what to do. That’s one hell of a message. But when you get to the woke stuff, it’s just rancid! Absolutely rancid!

Woes: And depressing, and lifeless, and sour, and not life affirming at all. It’s doctrinaire! It’s shrill, it’s nasty, it’s not upbeat.

Morgoth: Yeah, so nobody wants that. And you just think, why, just from a purely strategic perspective, you think, what a fuck up that is. Why would you want to present Lizzie [sp] and all of the transsexuals to the world? Knowing that they just don’t like it! There isn’t a positive vision. It just makes America look like a lunatic asylum! And I can never understand just from that perspective. Or, unless they are just so hell bent on annihilating traditional America that they don’t even care!

Woes: I’ll show a clip from our comedy program. I got this. Let me just see when I saved this file, because it will indicate when I saw this for the first time. But it was about, it was June last year, and the programme is called Shrill, ironically. And it’s supposed to be a comedy. So I’m going to show this clip. It’s 1 minute and twenty seconds long. And bear in mind that this is supposed to be a comedy. Here we go.

[1:50:52]

Black female: So, yeah, with first-time clients, I like to talk through the kind of thing you’re thinking, where you want to go with your hair.

White female: I brought some inspiration. This is what I’m thinking.

Black female: Okay. Well, I mean, this is Bob Marley.

White female: Didn’t know who he was.

Black female: Okay, but you wanted dreadlocks like Bob Marley?

White female: Yeah, I think I could really pull that off. Don’t you think I can pull it off?

Black female: I don’t, but it’s not really about that. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of the term “cultural appropriation” before?

White female: Oh, I love culture! I went to Berlin once, and all my friends there had dreadlocks.

Black female: Yeah, I’m sure they did. Okay, if I were to wear my hair in dreadlocks and I went into work, say, in an office, I would get told to wear my hair straight, to look more professional.

White female: That would be really cute.

Black female: Okay. Yeah. You’re not getting it. Let’s just not do this. I’m going to ask you to leave.

White female: Wait. What? Why?

Black female: I tried to explain, but you weren’t listening. So let’s end this now.

White female: What is happening?

White female assistant: It’s nothing personal. It’s just that we hate you here. Bye Siena. Come on. Thanks so much for coming.

White female: Are you serious?

White female assistant:: I just made food and you’re keeping me from eating it. Let’s go. You should just leave.

[White female enters carrying food for assistant.]

White female: She’s not going to do your hair.

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Woes: Isn’t that just absolutely fucking dreadful!

Morgoth: That looks like a parody. That looks like somebody taking the piss out of them!

Woes: It’s not.

Morgoth: What’s the message they’re trying to send of that? If a young White woman isn’t, like, well versed in Critical Race Theory stuff, they just have to be thrown out of her hairdressers?

Woes: Yeah.

Morgoth: Christ.

Woes: I mean, that she’s a loser. And bear in mind that she’s clearly middle class, a bit naive. She’s been to Berlin, so she’s travelled a bit. But she’s not aware of racial issues because she’s got White privilege. And she carelessly talks about appropriating black people’s culture with their dreadlocks. So she’s an idiot. She’s a privileged idiot! And so she’s just to be degraded and humiliated until she gets the idea, until she gets in line. In the meantime, we should all hate her.

Morgoth: You see, that the problem, it’s the hairdresser and that other lesbian thing. They are the ones in positions of power. They’re in the position of power both in the hairdressers, but then they’re also in a position of power in society at large, relative to that White girl. There’s not a single institution which would take the side of the White girl! The idea that it’s sort of institutional racism and that she has privilege, it just doesn’t exist. It doesn’t exist anywhere.

I was thinking about this recently because of the White privilege thing, where there’s the race, what’s the Act that Enoch Powell? The Race Relations Act, was it?

Woes: I think so, yeah.

Morgoth: And then you also in 2010, you get the the Equalities Act. And like the Equalities Act, literally sort of sections out minorities. They literally call it “protected groups”, protected groups of people. And White people aren’t in there, but all of the blacks are. And gays. White people can be in there, if you’ve got one of those things, if you are gay, or trans, or whatever.

But that legislation, it seems to me, is incompatible with White Privilege Theory. Because what the you can’t privilege two different things at the same time. So people who get into these arguments about trying to say that White Privilege Theory doesn’t exist because I’ve got to work full-time and everything. There’s nowhere in law can you see it, can you point not a single piece of legislation or any acts, or any policies which are there to the benefit of White people. But the Equalities Act. It’s right there. It’s right there. And it privileges, protects, special groups.

Woes: Yeah, I think the idea is that we need to have this special protection for minorities in law, because Whites are privileged in the culture just sort of by default. And so they don’t need to be protected in law, because they racistly protect each other in practice, in the culture.

Morgoth: But they can’t actually prove that. So if you say, well, the default position of the society is White, well, they’ve got policies in place to do away with that, to prevent that from happening. But there’s no policies anywhere to actually say, well, this is a White society, and we deserve representation.

There’s a good channel that I watch sometimes called Truth Stream Media. It’s a couple from Texas. They have done good stuff on the Technocracy and all of that, and they’ve started to release, it’s an hour and 40 minutes long video deep dive into Stanley Kubrick’s The Shining. And in this first episode, I understand what they’re trying to do.

What they’re doing is saying that they’re digging into the dispossession of the Native American Indians and then saying, this is in The Shining. It’s a prominent theme. And the idea is that there is an unsettled past. There’s something on the land and the mountains, and sort of the ghosts of this injustice that was done to the Native American Indians. And this is what you see.

And if you actually have a look in the Overlook Hotel, it’s called the Overlook Hotel, of course, because something is being overlooked. Something has not been addressed.

In actual fact. I was talking about this to Endeavour the other day. In actual fact if you’re White in America, you’re getting bombarded with what happened to the American Indians all the time. And Endeavour pointed out that actually it’s mainly with the blacks in Canada. They get bombarded with guilt about what happened to the natives.

Woes: Yeah, but this is 1980 though. One point to make here is that the Overlook Hotel is called that in the novel, which was written by Stephen King. And there’s really not any racial, … I mean, the stuff that people talk about in the film. This is my favourite film, so I know a fair bit about this stuff, and the theory and all that.

And I actually think that it’s probably true about Kubrick working this theme into it. And I don’t even think he did it maliciously. I don’t think he did it in the stereotypical jewish way, undermining. I think it was a genuine thing. And it is a genuine thing that we’re injustices done with the Native Americans.

Now, I’m not saying that that means America should be cancelled, or that it’s evil, or whatever. I’m just saying I think it’s true and I think that White people are very aware of unfairness, whatever. I don’t really care to justify this. I think it’s what he was going for there. But Kubrick, I don’t believe was the sort of stereotype anti-White filmmaker in the way that we think of today. Sorry, go on.

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Morgoth: In their video about it, they dig up all of these posters. And I know, again, I don’t want to sort of just rehash what other people have said, but when you’re with [word unclear] and you’re talking about the Faustian and spirit, you do actually get all of these pioneer sort of posters, where it is about just going off into the Wilderness and taming the untamed.

Woes: This is what I mean this is what I mean. Right? Eventually that’s going to come back at you.

Morgoth: Yeah.

Woes: I think this is what Kubrick was reflecting in the Shining. You can be the pioneer, you can be the imperialist, you can be the adventurer, you can be the conqueror. Fine! That’s one thing.

But eventually all the stuff that you’ve conquered, and all the stuff you’ve dominated, and all the stuff literally you built the hotel over the Indian burial ground, all of that is eventually going to come back in some way. And I think even White people, I don’t think this is something that comes from jewish malevolence, or whatever.

Morgoth: Well, when you get the Faustian spirit, when it comes to actually going around the world, and claiming ownership over land and all of this, then what you look at with a lot of the Left the critical race stuff, it is a sort of demonization of that spirit.

So what they are talking about with Whiteness, a lot of the time they will then tie it to capitalism, stealing resources from places, and whatnot. What they’re actually doing is demonizing the Faustian spirit. They’re actually looking critically at it. And the reason why I was saying it’s like an intangible thing and it seems like mumbo jumbo, it’s because it doesn’t exist as a kind of policy, or a constitutional statement somewhere. This is why the Whiteness stuff is kind of amorphous. But I think that’s what they’re getting at. I think they’re looking at this kind of expansive nature of Western civilization, and then kind of saying:

“It’s time to atone for all of this stuff.”

Which leaves you thinking:

“Well, okay, we either double down, or we grovel on the ground in guilt!”

It’s a funny one.

But what I was going to get at was that what they were touching on was that the National Parks were established, and the National Parks, in their view, were a sneaky way to get policies passed which dispossessed to the Native Americans because they didn’t have sort of formal legislation which tied them to the land. It was just taken for granted that they belonged there, and that was their spiritually, their place in the world. So the National Parks were established and they had in the small print it was like:

“The land will now be protected in this pristine way. It will not be touched by man anymore.”

And with that they could then begin to clear the Indians because all of a sudden the land belonged to the American government, seemingly for benign reasons. And you know, they did actually establish all of these amazing parks and whatnot.

But there was a downside to it as well. And before everybody starts voting this down and tying this arc back to something which matters to us. And it’s that the native people of Britain don’t have a piece of legislation which binds them to the land like this.

And so you end up in a similar situation to the Indians, because all of a sudden it’s just a matter of the government making policies and you just happen to be on this land, which you’ve always been here, you’ve got a spiritual connection to it. Your ancestors have been here for thousands and thousands of years. But all of a sudden, when our people are trying to defend their right to this homeland, it’s like they’re overpowered by all of this policy and all of this legislation.

You can see here why civic nationalism is so toxic as well, because that’s what that is. It’s just like a formal sort of treaty. It’s an appeal to legislation. And we need to find a way to say, well, actually, we’ve got something which is beyond the government, and beyond constitutions, and beyond man made written laws. And this is the problem that the Indians had and it’s a similar problem to what we have as well.

Woes: Yeah, that is an interesting way to look at it. To get back to that clip from Shrill because I think it ties in with the article that you wrote. You said that they are in charge and the White girl doesn’t have a single institution that would back her up. I think you’re right, but I think that they know they’re in charge. I think that they know they can abuse her, they can humiliate her because they wouldn’t be doing it otherwise. I mean, the whole thing is an exercise in, well, exercising power. It’s an exercise in humiliating the person who is under your control.

So I think they know that they’re in charge at this point. I think that stuff like that, where it’s not attempting to see her point of view, invalidating her point of view, invalidating the idea that she could have a valid point of view [chuckling] that is the behaviour of a tyrant, oppressing someone, oppressing a group. So it’s kind of there. I don’t think in this context, they’re not even pretending to be underdogs anymore. The gloves are off.

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Morgoth: Have you noticed this year? You can see this slipping in now because what they’ve done with [word unclear], there’s a new phrase coming out and they’re calling it the “global majority”. So it used to be, because it’s tied with the climate stuff and having one system to rule the world. If it comes out that people in Africa and Asia are going to be facing droughts or whatnot because of the climate change, then they are suddenly being reframed as the “global majority”. And what this does is put like the industrial White nations automatically into a minority sort position, which it’s implying, …

Woes: Minority in a bad way as well. Minority here isn’t a good thing. It’s not exotic and special in these protections. It’s a “selfish” minority.

Morgoth: It’s a complete inversion. So we all of our lives we’ve been told in the West that:

“Well, you are the majority in your country, we’ve got to have the Equalities Act. We’ve got to protect all of these little groups. This is just the way it is. It’s a moral thing to have all of this stuff to protect and fawn over these special minority groups.”

Just like what you were saying before. It is because you are the dominant culture that we have to protect all of these people and give them special dispensations.

Now all of a sudden they’re pulling the rug from Europeans, from the West, and they’re now going to turn around and say, :

“Well, we need all of these climate change policies brought in to protect the global majority. And at the end of the day, you’re just a minority. You’re going to have to get on board! You’re going to have to go along for the greater good!”

There it is again. For the greater good of the planet, for the greater good of humanity. I mean, since why does the “greater good” mentality not apply to what’s happening in our countries? Why can’t you say that? Let’s say, that black people just have to shut up and stop complaining for the greater good of society! For the greater good of society you’re just going to have to stop complaining all of the time, all right? Slavery and all of this? You’re just going to have to deal with it for the greater good. That’s just the way it is.

And yet when it comes to a larger technocratic, holy cow, they’re going to do a switcheroo! And they’re going to say:

“Well, you’re just a minority, so you’re just going to have to get on board. You’re just going to have to deal with it!”

Woes: Yeah! White people have been subdued. I don’t know if that’s quite the right word, but they’ve been browbeaten on the basis that they are the majority. They are the bullying, tough, powerful, greedy, strong, unfragile, majority. But then you can switch the lens. And so from a global perspective, they’re actually the minority! But they’re still selfish and greedy. [chuckling] The fact that they’re selfishness and greediness and so on was established on the basis of them being the majority in their countries. It doesn’t matter because from a global perspective, they’re a minority. But those negative attributes that you’ve ascribed to them and that they’ve internalized still persist in their thinking. They still think, :

“Okay, I’m White, therefore, I’m privileged, therefore, I’m powerful, therefore, … But actually there are so many other people in the world, much more than White people, who are oppressed, who are fragile, who are vulnerable. And so I’m a selfish minority, I’m a destructive minority, who is ruining it for everyone else!”

So this is the switcheroo that has happened.

Morgoth: It’s to do with living standards. If you want to have the same living standards in the West that we had in the 1990s, 1880s, or whatever, then you’re just a minority. You can’t expect that just to continue on in that degree of luxury forever. You’re just a minority. Think about the global majority. Think about the greater good, the greater good of the planet! If we can then divide up your give out your wealth as to other people! People will say it’s cringe to call it “communism”. It kind of is. It kind of is.

Woes: I don’t think that we should be self conscious about this. In a sense that there are communistic elements to what is going on. And I don’t think that we should shy away from that for the sake of being called cringe or whatever.

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Morgoth: Communism was also purely technocratic. And they developed a solution to a problem, but the solution was corrupt. Chernobyl is a perfect example. I remember I was attacked because I said the rollout of the vaccine could be our version of Chernobyl. But I love that HBO series that came out about three years ago. And it’s just beautifully done. A lot of those actors pop up in that [word unclear]..

But when you actually have a look at what happened with Chernobyl, when you get to the end of it, it’s a disaster. And within the Soviet Union, they have this court, they actually say:

“Well, okay, what went wrong, really?”

And what caused it, was that they were using rods, … It’s been a few years. There’s a special kind of rod that they put in which helps cool the reactor. And further down the bureaucracy, they realized that these rods were really, really expensive. So there was a few of them got the proper rods, decent ones, but then they began cutting corners and they ordered cheaper ones in, because they were themselves under like a sort of incentive structure to get costs down on everything.

And so they ended up getting these cheapy rods. But the actual sort of performance of the reactor wasn’t changed to calm it down a little bit because now the coolant system wasn’t as efficient as it was on paper.

And so what you have is a kind of technocratic fuck up. But where in the system does the problem lie? And you end up with a complete catastrophe through institutional corruption, cutting corners. And sort of not wanting to rock the boat, being scared to speak out and say:

“Hang on a minute, this could be a disaster!”

Because that would be your career on the line. All of this, all of this kind of stuff. And the vaccine thing was kind of similar. It’s a similar system. I don’t know, I have went on a bit of a tangent their, but that’s kind of like how we got there.

Woes: Yeah. Well, this is the thing about if you’re going to place the faith in technocracy, that this is the danger, that eventually and you hear about this happening in the Soviet Union as well, where they would come up with some system and again, it was all for the greater good. They’d come up with some system, they’d think it was perfect, and then it would backfire in some way, and the bureaucracy would not be able to respond in time. Or there would be an imperative not to respond because that would be raising the alarm, putting your head about the parapet, contradicting your superior, and thus screwing things up. So you would get the blame for it or you would get punished for ruining it for everyone else.

So in other words, the bureaucracy, or the technocracy was primed to not respond to reality, but to really dwell in a fictitious version that was optimal for it’s desires. [chuckling] I mean, it’s just awful. So if you submit to a technocracy, this is what you’re potentially submitting to. There has to be this commitment to reality.

And what we’ve seen so far with the technocracy that we’re living under and this is why everyone should be very skeptical about it, is that it is not married to reality. I mean, whether it’s about men and women, race, Covid, the vaccine, climate change.

I remember in 2006, 7, people sounding the alarm on the climate change thing. And it’s been going on for a very long time. Now whatever is going on with the climate, and I actually don’t see anything happening with the climate, except for the fact that winters, I think, were colder when I was a child. Big deal! Whatever is going on with the climate, I don’t believe what they are saying! I don’t believe what they’re claiming!

Because they were wrong about everything else. They were wrong about LGBT! They were wrong about race, they were wrong about men and women. They’ve been wrong about everything, virtually, everything! I mean, the only thing I could probably agree with them on is pollution. We don’t want pollution. We don’t want to be pissing up the environment. That’s only sane. But really on everything else.

They are not only dishonest, they’re nuts! And I don’t say that to let them off the hook in any way. They’re deranged. They’re completely ideological. And so it just seems like we’re primed here for disaster, because they don’t care about reality.

A good example of this coming up just before you intervene, the electric car thing. Well, the batteries are expensive to produce. And also there’s now the energy shortage. So I mean, what are you going to do? People aren’t going to be able to fucking drive! So anyway, go on.

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Morgoth: I mean the thing this is what people say with the cars. And they’re saying:

“Well, you can’t do that. There’s not enough power in the grid to charge!”

Like I don’t know how many cars are in this country, like 15 or 20 million cars. There’s no way you can charge that many cars each night. So each night the the grid would have to charge 20 million, like super sized lithium car batteries. And people say this is why it can’t happen. It just can’t happen because the power grid just couldn’t handle the load.

But the thing is but yeah, you just won’t drive! You just won’t be driving a car. That’s what that tells you. Don’t think they’re going to step back from that and think:

“Oh, no! We’re going to have to get all the diesel, we’re going to have to get all of the gas pipelines in. We’re going to have to we’re going to have to get normal car engines back again, because we just got, …”

No, that’s not what’s on the cards. What’s on the cards is that you’ve got two cars per street, and everybody just gets a bus and everybody shares.

Woes: It’s interesting here because this is where the two agendas seem to match up with Ukraine, and the neocon agenda there, but also the technocratic agenda with Nord Stream. And I realized that Nord Stream there are also neocon reasons for doing that. But it really also speeds things up for the technocrats.

Morgoth: Yeah, I think what caught me off guard was at first thinking, like I mentioned at the start, at first thinking, well, maybe our side of this did kind of overreact. And at the end of the day, countries have got geopolitical interests and they need sometimes, … Bill Gates doesn’t have tanks. The technocrats don’t have a standing army. At the end of the day, if you can put an army in the field and you can fire missiles, it does matter. It does really matter.

And so yeah, there was a bit of a kind of moment there. It was away only, yeah, okay, so maybe there is two different forces. But then it didn’t take long and actually we’re just heading in the same direction that we were anyway. In fact, now we’re heading there faster.

And it was almost like in my case, sort of underestimating just how determined they were to bring in this surveillance grid. The big mystery is like how convenient all this was. I tend to agree with AA here. I think you’re talking about two different kind of clubs which overlap but it still gets confusing, when you go all the way up to the top of the money power. But yeah, I kind of agree with AA on all that.

Woes: Yeah, it is confusing. But either way we’re still heading for the same place and we’re not heading for it faster, as you said. So that kind of, … Again, I think that people should be very careful about claiming that the Social Credit Score isn’t coming, the CBDCs aren’t coming and so on, because it really seems like they are. I mean, it’s going to happen in dribs and drabs. Fits and starts, or whatever the phrase is, but I don’t see them backing down on this.

Why would they? I mean, as an elite, CBDCs are in their interests. It doesn’t matter what kind of elite they are! The Social Credit Score is absolutely in their interest. If you’re a totalitarian elite, if you want control over the population, then that’s useful to you don’t need to be ideologically persuaded of it. It just is self evidently useful to you.

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Morgoth: It matters as well because people say that this is a distraction from demographics, from racial politics, from the JQ, from the usual sort of nationalist talking points. And I understand why as well. Because I get it.

But the problem is this system really does appear to be coming. If it comes in, and remember when I was talking about the map with all of the dots on it before? If it comes in, then your ideology, and your aims, and your political, that doesn’t matter. That’s never ever going to be allowed! It will be neutralized before it even gets off the ground.

So it’s saying whatever you want, whatever your vision is, whatever your ideal society is, will never get anywhere! I mean, if you look at the state of things now before it even comes in, if you look at what’s been revealed, the collusion between the American Deep State and Twitter, where they’re just outright flouting and they don’t care. The mainstream media just doesn’t care. The idea that, I don’t know, the plan is to sort of red-pill normies and have this mass awakening with so many people able to vote, they’ll vote in like some kind of Neo-National Socialist party or something like that.

This assumes that you’re living in a liberal system which will allow you to do that, whereas they’re just not, they don’t care! As I said earlier, we’re not living in a liberal democracy of any of the terms, we’re not living in a liberal democracy, we’re already in a technocracy! And they will break their own rules to shut you down. People don’t like hearing this. They will just drag you off in the middle of the night at the end of the day. And I don’t see this heroism of just willingly throwing yourself into the meat grinder.

But the problem is that people say, well when you talk about this, you talk about Social Credit system coming in, you talk about being monitored and all of that, then this is a distraction from the kind of the populist revolution which is coming. We shouldn’t be talking about this. We should be focusing on winning the political election, getting people and all of this. But you can’t do it under the system they’re bringing in, whatever it is, even if you’re a far Leftist or whatever, there will be a certain set of guide lines and a certain set of protocols written into the grid, written into the system, which will be monitoring everybody all of the time.

And if you are planning on running a Right-wing party, far-Right party, nationalist party, which has all of these from the position of the centre, all of these really edgy ideas, they’re just going to cut you off! It’ll just be like pulling a plug. There’s no way around this problem, this fundamental problem. Whatever it is that you want to see happen, it depends whether or not this system is going to let you do it.

Woes: Yeah. I think it’s important to say, I understand why people don’t like hearing this because it’s kind of like a meditation on despair and defeatism. It’s very negative. It’s depressing. I get it! I’m fucking depressed about it as well. But we’re trying to face the reality so that it doesn’t trip us up later on.

The reason people don’t like hearing this stuff is, well, they think, well, what is the solution then? What should we do? And the answer is, I don’t know. And this is why I keep coming back, to just try to better your own position, as an individual and as a family, and so on. That’s the best advice that I can give. And I know it’s not great, but I’m sorry, right now there’s nothing else I can think to say.

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Morgoth: Well, first of all, you have to acknowledge the problem. Once you’ve actually acknowledged the problem and what we’re facing, then you can say:

“Okay, I need to make sure that I’m somewhat independent.”

Even a little thing like having a big stash of cash, because the machines can go out at any time, having basic things. They’re already talking about having blackouts and stuff. It’s related, but if you look at in Europe, they’re all about just rolling blackouts for a long time. Have you got gas canisters, like a little camping stove with five or six tins of gas? Because it’s going to help.

So you begin with the most basic things. But this is where we’re going. And in, in the the long term, it’s grim. It’s grim. I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I’ve been screaming out this thing for years.

And still when you look like just recently we’re spending something like £140 billion to build some kind of port. What’s happening, we’re talking about the global majority. So what’s happening is that our wealth is being transferred to Africa, and various other places.

And the reason they’re doing that is because they can’t afford the infrastructure. They can’t afford to have 5G towers everywhere. They can’t afford all of the solar panels, and all of the infrastructure for what is coming. They can’t afford that. And it’s kind of like they want them to have it.

They want it to be everywhere because it gets back to the sort of purely technocratic, sort of obsessive mindset where it has to be everywhere. African countries, places in Asia, they can’t really afford that stuff. So they can’t have a sort of black part on the grid. They can’t have something which isn’t properly connected. So we’re going to have to pay for that. They’ve got like 140 trillion war chest for this, and that’s like the richest people on earth. They’ve gone all in on this.

How great would the costs have to be before they sort of cut their losses and think:

“Well, actually, we’re not going to do this.”

They’re going to be pretty bad, to be honest. [chuckling] They’re not going to back out of this one very quickly if they’ve got that kind of money on the line.

Woes: Yes, I agree. To get back to a bit of a segue, but to get back to the article that you wrote, because I think it was a very good one. I remember at the time thinking it’s a very good point that America in the 80s was something that was attractive and appealing. Regardless of whatever shallowness, consumerism, commercialism, big money, celebrity, culture, whatever, it was still something that could be appealing. And in contrast to everything that we’re seeing now. Oh, God! The contrast is very stark.

As you said in America then, the idea was that if you work hard, you can make a life and you have a family easily, you have a house in suburbia, all the rest of it. And all of that is seemingly now being taken away, or evaporating. This is depressing.

But that brings me back to the Shrill thing, because while that’s happening, they’re implementing this new way, this new ideology. In the Shrill clip. I don’t know if it’s clear, but as far as I know, the manly woman, the masculine woman, the actress is transgender, at least she says she is! [chuckling] And probably a lesbian!

So I think that is an interracial lesbian relationship between those two people. Then the White girl comes in and sort of upsets all of that with her heteronormative White privilege. And they reject it and ejects the foreign element, as it were, which is traditional. Which is traditional White society. That’s what’s going on there.

And just to finish off the point, it’s joyless. This is the point that we’re making in the article. There is no happiness to this. This ideology is not one that brings happiness, or fulfillment. It has its own momentum. It sort of justifies itself. But it doesn’t make the people who follow it any happier or more fulfilled. That’s the big difference.

I mean, at least in 80s America, it worked for people, despite the shallowness, despite the stupidity of it, whatever. It did lead you to have a good life, at least materially, and in other ways as well, because you were free. And this is what’s going away.

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Morgoth: It’s interesting as well when you see something like that andor that I was talking about it’s like a cringe sort of Star Wars thing. It is politically correct. Some of the positions that black men are in are kind of absurd, but whatever, it isn’t the kind of Last Jedi big sort of global hormone fest. And it’s almost as if there’s a latest transition has happened where you’ve gone from the kind of big gear walk kind of bullshit which is poorly written and just kind of pisses everybody off to this kind of Superrealist hard, gritty, just raw representation of totalitarianism. That’s an interesting thing, the way that’s happened, because I think it’s something similar. It’s kind of like what we’re looking at in the West. One of the video that I never got made this year for one reason or another was Ten Little Signals in Blair Runner 2049 of the Great Reset. If you look at Blade Runner 2049, which is a kind of favourite in distance rate circles, it’s surprising how much is in that. I mean, you open the scene and you’ve got the book Farm. He also lives in a pod and his girlfriend is a hologram and he is himself like a replicant. That’s not a robot, it’s just a genetically modified human. In the law as well, it’s mentioned that they had this kind of great sort of cyber crash where all of their documents, all of their knowledge, was lost. So when they go through the archives, they have gone back to having physical copies of everything because when you store everything in digital space, there’s a chance that everything will just get wiped out in one goal. Even just that is an interesting thing as they head toward I bought a new computer recently and the laptop just sort of it cost me an arm leg, but I need it for what I do. And I kind of put discs into anything. There’s no disks. I mean, up here I’ve got a nice computer, I’ve got a little laptop, there’s a backup and I actually can’t just put a disk into anything anymore. Which is to say you can’t own anything in the real world because what they want you to do is just download everything. It’ll never exist in physical space. I mean, thankfully, I’ve got a kind of nice DVD collection which I’ve had for ages. It would be a good time to just buy a DVD player because the time will come when you just can’t play them anymore and everything will be online, everything will be digital. And literally it’s a cliche, but you just own nothing. And it’s funny, like your new computer. You’ll spend a lot of money on a new computer and you can’t put a physical disk into it anymore. That’s done. What you have to do instead is get a subscription on some streaming service or whatever. If you play games and then you just download it, but you’ll not own anything physical.

Woes: Yeah, you can actually get a USB disk drive and connect it to the computer. It’s a separate thing that runs off the computer. And that’s what I was using. But with my old computer, I got two of these things and they stopped working after six months, each of them. So I just got a new one and it stopped.z Working after six months. It was fucking ridiculous. I have no idea what was wrong. I’ll try it with the new computer after millenniyule over because it’s my only way to watch all the programs that I love. They’re not available on streaming. It’s not going to happen.

Morgoth: Yeah, imagine if in the future I’m deliberately kind of just talking like proper Sci-Fi kind of thing here. I’m not saying this is going to happen, but imagine the future where, let’s say, Beethoven just disappears from the Google banks or something like that. It just drops out of existence. Beethoven’s back catalog.

Woes: There was a thing, and I think it was Amazon Kindle, and I think it was 1984, the book. And for some reason this is like ten years ago now, but it’s a Harbinger of what you’re talking about. They just deleted it off everyone’s Kindles. So people had bought the book and then it was memory hold. It was unpersoned. It was just erased. Maybe some sort of software glitch, I’m guessing, or the copyright law came in or whatever it was. This book was just instantly erased from everyone’s device. And that is an interesting and of course it was funny that it was 1984 because it’s ominous.

Morgoth: Yeah, I was just scrolling through the other articles there for something to kind of get us on to some happier topics. But as people who are subscribed by substance notice, it’s few and far between them, afraid. But there was one of them that I did where I’m just going to go down here. There was a few of them that I did which are a bit more personal. I mean, I lost somebody close this year who died. But that’s an even gluviat subject. I’ll not touch on that. But another one, the running theme towards the second half of the year, what was the kind of unrealist to all of this? And I did an article recently which was like a true story, which actually happened. And it was in mid summer and there was a girl came knocking on the door. I heard a knock on the door. I had to be careful because I thought it might be the BBC again. Or here it is, a highly strange knock at the door. And I went down to a door and there’s this really pleasant girl there. She was about 15 or something, and she said, hello there. Have you got a minute? And she was dressed in a uniform, like a nice green uniform. And I was like, all right. I said yeah. You’re pleasant. He seemed nice enough. I’ll give you two minutes. And she was like, all right. She says there. I’m Kelly from St. John’s Ambulance. She says, do you know, where your nearest defibrillator is? I was like, well, there are things that people have when they have heart attacks. And she said, yeah, that’s what it is. I said, well, no, actually I don’t. Do you? And she pulled out her iPhone. I’m just kind of going through the article. She pulled out the iPhone, and it showed the area on some kind of map app. And you saw all of these defibrillators. She pointed up the street, and she said, well, that’s where your nearest one is, just up there. And I said, all right. She says, we’re working with the government, and we want to have a defibrillator on every street within five minutes of everybody in the country by 2024. And I was like, well, why? And she was like, well, because I got in more detail in the conversation in the article. But then she was she she pulled out her phone again and and she was reeling said she was reeling off this kind of bullet point and she well, having a defibrillator decreases your chance of dying of a heart attack by 70% if it’s within five minutes of the person who’s just had the heart attack or the stroke, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, Right, but hold on a minute. So we’ve gone from a situation where the defibrillators were around a little bit. We knew what they were, and now the government wants to have one on every street corner in the country. And she said, yeah, they also want to have at least two in every school by 2024. And I was like, is this not a bit weird? Is this not a bit like, what’s the thing? What’s changed that? All of a sudden, the government are, like, desperate. They’ve got this huge military operation across the entire country to get defibrillated as it’s like absolutely everywhere. Why would you do that? And she was like, well, it’s just a health thing. And I thought, well, do you not think it’s like something else? I mean, what’s changed with people’s health in the last few years that could be given so many people heart attacks, or is this kind of panic on? And she said I said, Well, I think it might be that vaccine. I’ve seen things on the Internet. This is the thing that I do when I’m sort of talking in the real world with people, is that you can come out with things which are kind of controversial and a bit edgy, but what you do is you just saw something online. What you do, you’re kind of disowning the controversy. And I think, wow, I just scattered. I says, I think I lose. There maybe the conspiracy theorists online, maybe they’re right. And she went, oh, what are they saying? Like, what do you mean? The conspiracy theorists online are saying that people are dropping dead because of this vaccine everybody got? And she went really? And I said, yeah. And she went, well, I asked this. Did you get it? And she says no. Good. And she says, Anywhere, Willie, because she was nice and because she was doing her civic duty in the kind of country we want this is the kind of thing, you’d see, this is good. It’s nice to see a pleasant girl in a uniform doing something good for the people, for the people of the country. That’s fine. But the problem is you’re left in this kind of weird place where, well, why is there this? And I looked it up afterwards and it is true that in I think it was in 2021, you can see that the government purchased 40,000 defibrillators to be deployed across the country. And at the same time, they’ve got another policy to get defibrillators into every single school, which is weird, isn’t it?

Woes: Certainly is. I mean, this is the kind of thing where you think, okay, there is a problem with the vaccine and they know there’s a problem with the vaccine.

Morgoth: Yeah. And you’re not giving any clarity, you’re not being told the truth. But behind the scenes, in sort of the Deep State, they’re working over painsteriously, all of a sudden they’ll just be defibrillators everywhere. But it’s perfectly safe and effective. But look, this is the thing. I haven’t got any proof that the two things are connected. I can’t prove it. Maybe they’re not. Maybe Kelly from St. John’s ambulance is correct. Maybe it is just a sort of thing that the government are ruling out because they care about everybody’s health so much. Maybe it’s got nothing to do with it. Maybe the vaccine isn’t doing that kind of damage to people. This is, at the end of the day, conspiracy theories on the Internet. And so the point is that you’re left in this kind of weird limbo of not really you’re not able to put anything solid under your feet and it goes for everything. You can move on from the vaccine. People will be like, oh, that’s all more rough. He’s going off on a vaccine again. The same thing can be said for the immigrants coming in the idea that I did a video about why do the government not just stop all of these immigrants? I mean, I loved Godfrey Bloom, just cut straight through the bullshit and he was like, I’ll destroy the boats. I’ll roll them up, I’ll send them back. And I don’t give a shit about the European Court of Human Rights or anything else. They just go back. It’s as simple as that. And it is, why have we got to put up with this ridiculous situation? And when you look at the circle kind of grift where all of a sudden you’ve got a prominent Tory donor. They signed a contract, I think it was in 2019 for millions. Millions and millions on the basis that circle would end up waiving all of this money in the faces of landlords so that they would have a very strong incentive to just kick out whoever was there. And mainly it’s going to be British people so that they can house all of these asylum seekers. Now, the thing is, they weren’t actually coming across the Channel in those numbers. Back in 2019, there was a few of them coming in, but not like they have been this year. And so isn’t it strange that if that didn’t happen, how does that sit with the contract the Government had with Circle to house potentially tens of thousands of migrants? They’re even going to offer to pay a council tax or everything you can imagine is being waved in the faces of landlords. Again, the Lefties on Twitter, which I saw on this, they were saying, well, the landlord is not being forced to evict British people. The dishonest fuckers that they are. No, he’s not. He’s not being forced by law to evict White British people.

Woes: They’ve written a system to incentivize him together, so they don’t need to force him.

Morgoth: Yes. So they deliberately played down the idea of the incentive structure. But again, the weird thing is it took like years until this has now paid off for Sergio and the other company that does it as well. And you think, well, is this not Malice of Ford? Why did the Government give Sergo so much money to house asylum seekers when they weren’t even coming in? And those kinds of numbers, we were getting the normal immigrants coming in, that’s fair enough. But this kind of thing where there’s just like tens of thousands of people crossing, that wasn’t happening then. So why did they give them that contract? Why does that contract exist? If they are going to patrol our borders, why does that contract exist? Once again, you’re just being lied to. You’re not being given the truth. At least on the Serco thing, you can look and you can say, well, this is weird, the Government signed a contract years ago on the basis that at some point there’d be all of these people coming in. They need to be housed. There’s an incentive structure created for landlords to evict the White British people because they can’t compete with what this corporation is offering and waving, dangling in their face. This seems to me it’s just like a warfare on the White British people, on our people in this country.

Woes: Yeah. Again, it’s a very depressing topic because there’s no way to sugarcoat it. I mean, it just is bad, it’s really bad. And I think this is becoming a tangible thing for people now in a way that it wasn’t five years ago. They’re now showing up in villages, towns, and that is predictable result not only of the quantities of people coming into the country, but also of the policies of distributing them. And I know that just recently the Tories announced this as a formal intention to forgotten how they voiced it, but it was to distribute them away from the inner city because stereotypically, historically they’ve been in the inner cities and that’s why people have fled the inner cities. So now the government wants to put them in small villages I’ve got to be really careful not to Fed post, but I don’t like this at all. I just find this absolutely outrageous. Because you’ll have an effect, it will have a very tangible effect on a village that it simply wouldn’t have on some fucking slum inner city that’s already been completely demographically replaced anyway.

Morgoth: Yeah. You’ll also notice the sort of technocratic mindset behind it, where they’re looking at spreadsheets and they’re thinking, well, this community is this sort of diverse and they can take this quarter and it’s all a numbers game. And as always with this mindset, is that it’s? The little people on the ground are just being crushed, but by sort of graphs, just by data. There’s no humanity within the data. I mean, I was reading an article there on AI art on Substack. I read so much good stuff on Substack.. And I was reading one fellow and he was trying to get grips with AI art and what it is. There was an AI art prize winning thing. It looked impressive, it looked great. He got into and he said he can’t deny that it is like a stunning piece of art and we need to address this philosophically. And he said his piece he got into a bit of philosophy, but then he brought up this picture of a Rembrandt painting and it was a man I don’t know the name of it. I’m not an expert on painting by any means, but basically it was a man on a bed and he was surrounded by by doctors or whoever was about five or six other men around him. And his arm was completely open and he had some kind of horrible wound. And in the background there was a this is this fellow this is not me, by the way. It was just the article I was reading, which is why it’s good to see blogging coming back. And in the background of the Rembrandt Peyton, you can see that there’s a doctor there and he has like a sort of drawing. He’s got a book with a diagram of a human arm. And this is strange because what he was saying, the fellow who’s writing The Horacle was that on the one hand there’s a man lying there with an actual wound in his arm. But in order to understand what’s happening in that arm, which is lying there, he’s lying there. There’s people there trying to address the wound. You’re taking orders from somebody who’s not looking at the arm, but looking at a picture, looking at a book with a diagram of a human arm, not the actual real meat arm that’s there. And his point was that this is the disconnect and this is going to be one of the problems with AI, is that it’s just the book and not the actual meat not the actual meat space. And so you see with AI, something similar to the problem with the technocratic mindset, where everything is just a sort of abstract data point which doesn’t have any actual relation to the real meat and bones people of the real world, which are existing around you. All of that just has to deal with the fact that you’re going to have all of this kind of efficiency dumped on you. Do you see what I mean?

Woes: Oh, yeah. Again, I think this is with the Technocracy, this is how it’s going to be. You will be in a situation in your real life, there’ll be something wrong, something goes wrong, you apply to the Technocracy, or it’s local subsidiary, and basically it’s a situation where a computer says no and you’ll be thinking, well, how does that rule or protocol that they’ve invoked here, how does that relate to my situation? And you’ll struggle to understand how it does. I mean, a perfect example is what we were saying at the start about we’re facing a possible food shortage. Why aren’t we planting vegetables? That’s the obvious solution here on the ground, literally. But we can’t because of some technocratic protocol. And of course, it’s a pretty obvious and cruel one in that instance. They don’t want you independent, they don’t want you self sufficient. But there could be all sorts of things here where you’ve got no idea why the computer is saying no.

Morgoth: Another thing is plant and victory gardens. How do you even do that in a multicultural society? You can do that in the London of 1942, where the message goes out throughout the local councils and everywhere.

Woes: It, …

Morgoth: Comes from the Churches, it gets into the pub with a couple of bureaucrats and some civil servants coming in to organize things. Okay, this is how it’s going to go. We’re going to turn the local playing field into somewhere in a group of potatoes or carrots, onions. And if you’ve got a garden, look, it’s not law that you’ve got to do it, but you’re going to be a bit of a dick if you don’t. That’s the way that’s going to go. There’s a roundabout. We’re going to turn that into a garden and we’ve got all of these stretches alongside the roads. We’re going to turn that into crops as well, all of these spaces we’re going to make produce food. Now, if you’ve got a homogeneous country where everybody is just White British and they’re Christian, that’s actually pretty easy to do. But for the Diversity is Our Strength. Crowd how the hell are you going to do that in a place like Birmingham or London or Bradford? What are you going to do? Are you going are you going to hardly print off how to grow currents in seven different languages? How are you going to organize them then?

Woes: Also be the mistrust. People will talk about how black kids, black teenagers would be ruining the cabbage patch just for the sake of it and whatever they might well be. But even if they weren’t doing that other ethnic groups will see that as a resource that they want to plunder and Whites will see it as a resource that they want to plunder from the other ethnic groups. I mean, it’s absolutely inevitable that that would happen.

Morgoth: Yeah, what you’d get would be that one ethnic group would have this particular territory if they would even bother, but they would do this on that particular territory and then there will be another it goes on. Maybe the Indians and the Muslims would have Lentils or whatever. You can imagine how it would go. And eventually they’re going to start and think, well, I want what they’ve got because the there exists. So instead of having in the glory days as of World War II, I can imagine you’d get thieves. But what you’re talking about, there would be individuals, or a criminal network within your own group who could be found and persecuted and that’s one thing. It’s totally different if you try and do that and you’re talking about groups who are just fundamentally different groups from the off, because then you’re not even talking about if you try to shame somebody from down the road, was caught stealing Barry’s turnips, then you can at least shame him as a thief. Because the context that that can happen in is that he still belongs to that group. He has betrayed the collective effort. He’s betrayed the one group and the morality and the well being of everybody by his fevery. You can’t do that if you’ve got multiple different groups because there’s no universalizing morality or ethic to bind everybody together in the first place. So all you’re doing is taking from the outgroup and this is multiculturalism defined and they call it a strength.

Woes: I mean, what would happen at first is that the flights would definitely be trying to live out the dream of, oh, this will be great, this will bind us all together. This will bind the different groups together because we’re now in a collective effort. And they’d quickly find that actually no, it’s you are sharing your resources, you are organizing, you are helping whatever the Chinese community and you’re giving them your seeds to help grow potatoes or whatever and they’re giving nothing back because why would they? And I think Whites will quickly learn this lesson. I remember seeing the height of the migrant crisis. There was a clip going around of some White guy, the well meaning young White guy, trying to distribute stuff to a crowd of refugees and they just started stealing. They just started taking tearing out of his hand. I think he had a bag and he was trying to give the bag one thing to each person and they basically just ripped the bag apart. And it wasn’t even something like they’re starving. How can you judge them for doing them? They’re starving people. It was entirely their behaviour. It was not cohesive, it was not unified, it was not civic engagement or whatever it was, just take the fight. He’s here with some resources. Let’s get them and that’s it. And then the infamous thing about the clip is that the young White guy eventually gives up and he actually puts his hands up in the air and just walks away. It’s like that moment of realizing, oh, these people are just not like my people.

Morgoth: Yeah, you see, they do this as well, where they’ll be like Moroccans rioting on the streets like it was for the last few weeks. Or you’ll have some kind of weird turf war between Sikhs and Muslims somewhere in Leicester, was it? And what will happen is, what about football fans? What about immediately you do this kind of thing as well? It’s not the same thing. It’s this desperate attempt to relativize everything and to take away the seriousness of what you’re seeing in the same way that they’ll kind of drag up the corpse of Jimmy Saville or whoever. Whenever you bring up the grooming gangs, that any way to protect them, any way to kind of muddy the waters and say, it’s not what you think it is, even though we’ve stood and watched them tear down statues, not just in America, but here as well. It amazes me the way you just don’t talk about these things anymore.

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Woes: Not in the pub, at least. Sorry.

Morgoth: You can’t if you go and sit with Gary and he’s in Pitbull, you can say whatever you want there. I’m happy with that. The people that I go to normally is it is kind of half and half. You can see it quite a bit. And it’s the difference is if you got out of hand, they would say, watch what you’re doing. What’s what? You’re seeing me getting into trouble. But fundamentally, they’re on your side. The difference with Fat Lefty Trope was that she was just from the off. It was a political and ideological thing. The other is like, oh, steady on me. We don’t want to get into trouble, you know what I mean? And then you’d have to be pretty explicit, you know what I mean? Everybody knows everybody’s kind of you find ways, like the way we live, where everybody’s going to police their language and everybody even and this is the real world as well, everybody kind of gets it. And, you know, when people came to get it and you don’t purely spiral in the real world, you kind of accept the speech codes. You kind of accept that we can look at somebody and you kind of know that you’re on board with each other and you get it. And that the fellow who worked at that pub where that Lefty cow was. So I’ve been there before. About a year ago I was in there and there was a fellow working there at that time and he was about 40 and he was a bit of a wide boy. He was from the south, but he’d been all over the place, and he was like a total conspiracy theorist. You could say anything to him. He was all in for it. He was great. I don’t know, he was like low key racist. He got it. No Jwink. Wink. And he was kind of probably watching, I don’t know, like Alex Jones maybe, but he definitely wasn’t on the plantation. And you’ve got a lot to go with there. You’re not going to get, like, ideological purity that just exists on Telegram. The only place you get that is Telegram and a couple of podcasts. It doesn’t exist in the real world. And people are just thinking, I’m mad.

Woes: All right. I can’t think of anything to say in response to that. So let’s go to another article. Are you there?

Morgoth: Yeah, I was just muted. I’ve gotten the other one up, and it’s called the Digital Identity Game Show you are the Star, which it kind of sunk without trace, but I can’t really remember anymore. I didn’t read it beforehand, but what I was getting into is what I’ve touched on before, because we’ve been speaking about the kind of surveillance grid and everything and the way that it functions. And what I think is interesting when you see it in real world, you’re interfacing with technology so much these days, and it’s its just how much everything has been gamified, we call it. If you think of the Social Credit system, what in the end is a Social Credit system, and a Social Credit system which is emerging before us. What it is, is an incentive structure. And there’s something about the digital realm in all aspects of it, even from a primitive computer game up to the YouTube algorithm, to Twitter, to everything, it has these built in incentives to keep you invested. Now, that might be I mean, I don’t play video games anymore. The last video game that I played was Skyrim. And so what happens is you set off on a quest, and the incentive is you get through the cave and you get this new sword or this new axe, or you get this new shout, this new special power. So you’ll go through all of that in order, and what it’s about is unlocking something, unlocking a new thing, a new zone, and a new area, which you then go into, which eventually there’ll be something at the end of it, and you can unlock that as well. Even on an iPhone, it’s all about unlocking. It’s all about gaining access. This seems to me to be a sort of metaphysic which pervades everything about the digital world. Whether it’s gaining access to your iPhone, whether it’s about playing a video game, whether it’s about the YouTube or Twitter or whatever. All of it is about sort of its all about gaining access and then going on to the next level. All it takes for to turn that into a Social Credit system is to bring it into the way you actually behave. And so then it’s a matter of what is your politics. And it gets me back to the grid before with the sort of vaccinated people and whatnot we literally had it in the Corvette. You can see the imprint of the digital kind of logic, the ghost of the digital, just in this idea. Well, if you’re vaccinated, you can go out and you can do these things. If you’re not, then you can’t you stay in. So it’s like at a primordial level in the digital what would you call it? The digital landscape is this idea of locking and unlocking and then moving on and proceeding to what in a video game would be the next level. And so it’s in everything. It’s with your iPhone. It’s an inner Social Credit system. It needs to have rules to make it function. And it’s funny to me that you have all of these kind of incentive structures. Then when you look at the global carbon reduction thing, it’s as if it’s been tailormade. You know how people say covert was invented for the vaccine or not? The other way around, it seems to be that the climate change sort of emergency was invented for the Social Credit system. The Social Credit system wasn’t invented for then forever. You can have gain access to your fridge and you will be monitored. Your behaviour will be monitored, everything will be monitored. And it just interests me that it’s the logic of the Gamify system, which it begins with a video game, but eventually it’s like it’s imposing itself on the real world. Have you ever seen Tron Legacy? The second Tron movie.

Woes: I haven’t. I’ve only seen the first one.

Morgoth: It’s actually good. The Daft Punk soundtrack is great, but when you look at the story and the law and it was another video that I never got made last year. And you can trace it all the way back to BlackRock. BlackRock’s sort of supercomputer was a way of gaming the market because it would gather so much data and so much information that it was kind of able to predict the future. Every event everywhere would be processed. And so what they were doing was reducing the risk on investments. Maybe have been an avalanche. It was called Aladdin. Maybe that being like an avalanche somewhere. And then that was going to affect the weather, or the weather would affect the crops in this particular place, or the water supply was poisoned here and that would affect it just went on and on. They were all able to compute that. And in Toronto, it’s kind of interesting. We’re talking all about the technocracy and everything. And Jeff Bridges in Tron one, he’s like this idealistic boomer and he creates a digital world. At first I thought it was kind of ridiculous because it was before the internet, it really was just a video game, but it doesn’t really. Matter. The point of it is that he’s created a digital world. And by the time you get a tron too, he’s been stuck on the grid for I think it’s like 25 years or something. And he’s an old man. He’s a recluse. But what he’s done what he did was create a digital version of himself, which he called Clue. Looks pretty bad on the CGI now, but whatever. So the idea would be that Clue, he was programmed to create the perfect system, and the actual, real Jeff Bridges gave him access to all philosophy, all books and all of this thing. And what you’ve got is this juxtaposition where Jeff Bridges is like the quintessential boomer is there, and he has this glorious vision of the future. We’re going to unlock all of the knowledge. We’re going to all read Dostoyevsky, and we’re going to then study how Picasso, like, what made his painting so great. It’s going to be great, man. There’s not going to be any more work. We’re going to book a system. We’ll create our own system, and it’s going to be perfect. And I’m going to create an algorithm called Clue, and it will be perfect. He will create the perfect system. And what actually happens is that Clue creates an absolute dystopia, absolute nightmare of a place. And the reason he does it Klaus Schwab. Yeah, it’s Klaus Schwab. What happens is that organically, there’s these what do they call them? There’s a kind of race appears organically. They’re all White and blonde as well, and they’re kind of like elves, and they’re more sort of mystical and religious. I forgot what they’re called now, but basically there’s a girl in it. She was in this beautiful Eastern European woman, but I forgot what they’re called. Now, I’m sure somebody in the Chat has them, but this particular group of people are there, but they are an anomaly they’re not predicted for. And the problem that you’ve got is, how do you define perfect? Because in a Right-wing, where if you think of somebody like CS Lewis or Tolkien or these kinds of people, they would see that as being a thing of wonder, because they were a higher being, which were within the technological grid, but they were spiritual. And so organically, the grid had created spiritual beings. But the problem is that Clue couldn’t actually comprehend that that was to him just something gone wrong, and he genocided them all, and there was only the pretty girl left. So again, you get this conflict between idealism and utilitarianism. Clue was just a purely utilitarian algorithm. It’s kind of like the tragedy of the entire arc of Jeff Bridges boomer. Idealism is that he created this program. He created this computerized digital way of creating utopia, but it turned into hell and wiped out everything of value. And it’s interesting to me when you look at something that’s sort of a PR bullshit of the World Economic Forum, where you’ve got all of these kind of xylophone is playing, and it’s like it’s Happy ever after tomorrow. And everybody thinks it looks horrific, everybody scares shitless of it. But you know, that that is a vision of utopia. It is a vision of utopia. The problem is, it’s a vision of utopia from late 1972.

Woes: This is a concept that interests me. I remember reading this, or I heard you saying it. I think it was on the it was it was on one of the interviews he did this year. And I heard you saying this, and I wanted to ask you about this. I’m glad it’s come up. Why the Great Reset? When I first heard about it, and you were Clyde, and he’s a very old man, but the Great Reset seemed new to me. My first thought wasn’t, oh, that sounds old hat, or that sounds obsolete. So I’m interested in why you think it is. Why does it belong to the 70s, not the earlier?

Morgoth: Because what it hawks back to is, well, basically it’s retro futurism. So if you go back, there was a promise inherent within technology. If you look at the does actually die away a little bit in the 70s, but from an earlier era, there was a promise of technology, that technology would be a liberating thing. Technology would mean you wouldn’t have and I don’t just mean sort of doing the job at work more efficiently. I mean what the people like Arun Bastani and Ashaqar, what they call what is it, like future communists something or other fully automated space communism. And it’s where man will be liberated from labour. And in the future, what you see if you go back and you look at these graphics from the everything is taken care of, everything. Technology is solving all of the issues. Technology is going to bring about this great utopia. In the future, things will be better. It’s a quintessential, progressive, Left-wing vision of the world. Technology will make things better, and you shouldn’t be scared of it. And in fact, nobody it’s pure idealism of that era. And you can see what happened long ago, actually, in the kind of changed, and you begin to get a cynicism set in with technology. You begin to see movies like RoboCop or Blade Runner or Terminator. You begin to see pictures of technology gone wrong and all of this kind of thing. When we get to the digital age, you get a different problem again, because the technology has had a certain effect, but it’s an atomizing one, and it’s one where people are lonely. The social conditions have changed. So the way you can think of it is that nobody now thinks of themselves as living inside of some kind of giant sort of skyscraper with a helipod and with like, where you walk in. Now, if you imagine you walk into your house and you say, okay, lights on, television on. I want to have this thing made in the microwave. People in the 60s, they thought that was a good thing. They thought that was something positive. They thought that was a great vision of the future, mainly through a reduction of labour. You can see it’s a proper Left-wing, kind of Marxist even way of thinking where happiness is, when you just reduce the amount of labour involved in something. And in actual fact, where we are now, when you see the World Economic Forum and they come out with these things about how well, you’ll just talk to your fridge, and your fridge will monitor how many calories you’ve had today and how far your phone will monitor how far you’ve walked. And it will be optimized for your health. And everybody will think it’s wonderful. And it’s kind of like this vision that they had decades ago and never come to pass. And it’s just now, it’s like the revenge of it. It’s like, well, we’re going to do it. We’re still going to do this. All vision, this old idealism of the techno utopia from the 1960s, the 1950s even, we’re still going to fall now. We’re going to force it onto everybody. Even though in reality, if you talk to people, what, like in the here and now and in the 2020s, they’re not interested in it. They don’t want to know. What do they want? They want to have organic. They want to have families. They want to have log burning fires in their sitting room. They want to have gardens. They want to have meaning in their lives. And so what’s happened is that since that time, the wishes and the will of people has changed. They want to have something which gives them meaning in an organic real life again, which has been taken away from them by this sort of saturation of technology, and they want to go back. Nobody thinks of themselves as a 75 year old sitting in a pod, like watching YouTube videos or TikTok and then getting their latest vaccine update. People want to think of themselves as living in a comfortable home with the grandkids running through the door as they sit by a log fire. This is something too deeply ingrained in humans, and it runs direct. So this is what people want. And then you’ve got what the elites want and the technocrats want, and the two things are diametrically opposed to each other. They can’t function together. So what they’re going to do instead is just invent this colossal pyramid of lies to justify this archaic 50 year old vision and then Polish it up and tell you that this is their vision of the future.

Woes: Yes, I think that people are excited by the idea of having everything self sufficient, like your solar panels, the replicator from Star Trek and that kind of thing. Growing your own but more realistically, growing your own food, a farmhouse, the kids. That is an eternal thing. And I think that you’re right that there was a mid century obsession with technology, the white heat, the atomic age and yeah, I guess you could say that peaked in the probably the 60s, actually, and thereafter was people were ever more skeptical about technology. But the elites held on to that notion because it would empower them, it would put them at this absolute centre of people’s lives. I think centralization is a concept that is very appealing to technocrats, to control freaks, totalitarians, but is really annoying to everyone else. I mean, one of the things that’s said now about the postwar Britain, the welfare seed, is that it was too centralized and it was too bureaucratic, it was too distant from ordinary people. I don’t know, the Blair and all that in New Labor, they tried to reduce that somewhat by introducing consumer choice. I don’t know how much that was ever actually a legal thing. I don’t know how much they actually managed it. I doubt it, to be honest. The NHS now just seems to be a disaster. But either way, it is something that people have had to pay lip service to, like Tony Blair and the BBC has also I remember they introduced something called Producer Choice in the late 80s because they didn’t like the idea of doing everything in house anymore. It seems to be a general thing. As technology has advanced, it has become more portable, more modular, so you don’t need a huge system anymore to plug the device into so that it will work at all. It can work independently. But of course the thing where this changes is the smartphone. Because the smartphone is necessarily a very centralized device. It cannot work without calling the mothership for everything, absolutely everything, and it’s different motherships. It’s like the Uber mainframe, the Google server, whatever, the BBC website and whatever it is. But it’s a multitude of central point that it’s consulting the smartphone on its own is almost useless. I guess on its own it could do calculator stuff, or a calendar. Even the calendar now could be centralized. And then this also ties into the whole idea of the internet, the Wild West Democratization in the early 2000s, well, throughout the then it all stops around about 2010, 2015, and we go in this sharp turn towards centralisation and power consolidation and streamlining. So technology for a long time was heading in the direction that I think a lot of people find very amenable and pleasing. But it but it then ironically, long after they’d fallen out of their love with it in the 80s, but 20 years, 25 years after all of that, or 30 years after all that, it then did go in that evil direction. So you then did get Skynet, or obviously equivalents of Skynet. Yeah, but for a while it was actually something it was heading in a direction I think people liked.

Morgoth: It’s like you always end up running into the Clue problem. So whether it’s Skynet or Clue or in something like RoboCop, it’s like the oligarchy who are going to control it and privatize it and use it for their own ends and lie about the science and all of these things. It’s not new. The problems that we’re facing and which is coming down are not really new at all. But it’s just they’ve been predicted.

Woes: But now you’ve got evil people in real life making it real.

Morgoth: They’re actually doing it, actually implementing all of this stuff. And there’s a thing to address here which I think is interesting and I picked up on this as well. And in people in our circles, they want to push the gaq because it’s like this is the forbidden fruit. And they are right. You just look at the Kanye West thing and the Elon Musk thing and everything that’s been going on just recently. But the post war Meta narrative was based on the sort of demonization of White interests, of White people stepping off the plantation. And all of this comes back down to the nexus of the Holocaust, the Spectre of it hanging over like White people, European people, and everything has been built, morally speaking, the entire thing has been built on that. So they get the jewish people designist sort of Deep State America. They get a special dispensation which they absolutely abuse at every turn. So they will constantly attack White people on the basis of race. But then when somebody, the telescope is pointed back in their direction, they completely freak out and everybody sees the hypocrisy. It pisses everybody off. And to be honest, at this stage of the internet, like most people know as well, it isn’t the forbidden fruit that it was seven years ago, just through the mnematic nature of the internet. But nevertheless, still there’s kind of something cringe and boomerang about the obsession with Bill Gates or Klaus Schwab because I get it that certain sort of sections of our thing will say, well, it’s okay to talk about that because it won’t be banned. And they’re right about that. By the way, when I did the video about the Circle kind of thing, everybody was describing that to being some kind of Klaus Schwab scheme or conspiracy. I don’t know if that is. It is interesting that immigration has actually gone up in this particular time past when I thought it was even possible. But I do get it. It’s easy to just ascribe everything which is going wrong to that group because they don’t have the magical protective shield that the other group does. But what you’ll notice is that they actually don’t care. They don’t care what you say about them. They don’t care. You can say that Bill Gates is a psychotic maniac all day long on Twitter and he’s still going to buy up more land. He’s still going to subvert some other NGO about vaccine safety. He’s still going to keep pushing this stuff. And this is what I’ve said all along about the technocrates, that they really don’t care what you think of them. And this is different because in the past, even in the migrant crisis, there was kind of lip service, that there was a hidden hand. If we just kind of call that out, if we just pull the curtain down, then everybody will kind of get it and it all makes sense to the norms. But what happens when you’re dealing with an elite, which is increasingly becoming the case that they say, we are doing this? We know, you know, we are doing this, but we’re still going to do it. We’re not hiding what we’re doing. We create these cringe PR videos to tell you what we’re doing. We’re not hiding it. This is the agenda and we’re saving the world from climate change. We’re doing it in the interests of public health. We’re not hiding behind the curtain. We are absolutely open about it.

Woes: I think this is partly why people who are into the JQ think that this stuff is fake, because it is so open, there’s almost nothing to discover. It’s almost amazing that normes don’t see it, or they just don’t. I think they see it, they just don’t see the gravity of it. But then, as I say, there are people who are into the JQ who I think covers it because it’s kind of jealously, because it’s something they’ve discovered, it’s something they have worked out. So it doesn’t make sense to them that the technocrats are just being completely out in the open about it, about what they’re doing. It doesn’t really map on it. It’s a very different thing with the JQ. The crime is noticing. It’s not like that with the Technocrats. It’s completely different. They want you to notice. They say it themselves, black and white. They’re proud of it, they’re completely blasphemy about it. They feel that they’re changing the world and it’s righteous that they feel that they are completely justified in doing this. I mean, there are other reasons why.

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Morgoth: There’s no great secrets to uncover. You can’t proselytize, you can’t sort of run around with your revealed truth, which will shatter the epistemology of the average centre rate guy, because they’re just right over there telling you what they’re doing. But at the same time, that other group, it still has a hell of a lot of power and influence. It’s arguably still the most dominant group. Yet we do have this other thing that’s happening.

Woes: Yeah, exactly. I guess that would be a good segue to talk about the Kanye West thing and your perspective on Elon Musk and the ADL hop take on that.

Morgoth: Can I just dip in the toilet?

Woes: Yeah, good idea. I’ll play the NST thing that I meant to play at the beginning. Here we go. It’s a difficult thing to do, actually, to make people aware of all of the information that they could be aware of to do with millennial. For example, the NFT people might not know that there is NFT this year. There was an NFT last year, and I thought, okay, this could become a regular thing, because at that time, NFT stood just the kind of thing, and they were selling for a lot of money. So I thought it’s worth putting in all that’s worked into trying to make it something pleasant and nice, because I do like the idea that there’s this commemoration. There’s this thing that somebody can own, and it is the NFC of millennial that year, and there’s only one of them. This sort of undulating stained glass animation similar to last year, and it works the same way. You can hover the mouse over it, react. I just think there’s something special about it. The NFC is unique. Only one person can own it, and I think that’s nice, so that’s why I do it. All right. Hello.

Morgoth: I’ve also started on the whiskey.

Woes: Okay. Over three and a half hours. Then I don’t know how long you want to go on for.

Morgoth: Half hour or so. the Kanye West thing was one of those things where I kind of sit it out because I’m not in touch with American zuma. I don’t know how they think. I’m in my 40s, I’m from the northeast of England. I’m just completely disconnected from their culture. I was like, well, I’m not going to say something one way or the other one okay, let me get on with it. We’ll see what happens. There’s a virtue that you kind of learn when you get older. There’s a virtue in saying, like, I don’t know, I don’t have the answer to everything, this thing that you’ve just asked me and my answer is, I don’t know. I guess we’ll see how it goes. But one of the things one of the things that I noticed the problem because I keep an eye on pop culture and stuff. Like I was saying earlier, it’s not so much the message. And I know people will say, like, the GIMP mask and the net and it just looks ridiculous. But for all I know, that could be a big hit with American Zuma. I don’t know. But what I do know about is a little bit about something just sort of studying pop culture and whatnot is the nature of celebrity. And I think the mistakes which have been made are actually centreed around not knowing what a celebrity is or what they’re supposed to do. If you think who is because Kanye West is the biggest pop star in the world or whatever, I know he came in. I don’t know, I’ll just go with it. Let’s just assume he is the biggest or at least one of the biggest pop stars in the world, but he isn’t an ideologue, and he isn’t a great speaker. He isn’t going to give like some huge, powerful speech. Whatever the attraction, the draw, the power, there is the celebrity status itself, not what he’s saying. And what I see is that that’s been just systematically pissed away. I’ll tell you an example of if you think, okay, the celebrities of today, it’s one of those things where you don’t really get stars anymore like we did in the early years. You go back a few decades, it was easy to say, Clint Eastwood is still a star, but then he was a big star back in the day. Madonna was a big star. She was a superstar. And to dear, I’d say Tom Cruise is a quintessential star. He has that aura. So then you have to think, okay, what is a star? What is it that we think of as a star? And it’s somebody who is higher than you and is out of touch that you don’t have access to and you don’t really know what their thinking is on certain things. You don’t really know what their takes are, and whenever they kind of descend into that, they lose a bit of that star aura. Perfect example of this is Robert De Niro. So Robert De Niro. I love his movies. I’m a movie fan. I can and have with endeavour and classic movies. They spoke for hours on end about how great something like The Deer Hunter is, or you think of Good Fellas or The Godfather Part two. But one of the things about that is that when Robert De Niro began to go on Saturday Night Live, and he began to do the rules of Jimmy Conway from Good Fellows, but this time he was flagging off. Donald Trump, and this time.

Woes: He was.

Morgoth: Doing Jimmy Conway, but kind of cooked Jimmy Conway, where he’d become like a shit lab on a celebrity show. And he was calling Donald Trump like a mutt. Are you for fucking really fucking mutt? And all of this all of this kind of Good Fellas kind of band up, but it was like, in the service of the American Deep State and shit, liberty, and it was fucking awful. And it’s because what happens is that he’s suddenly that kind of mystique has gone, and then it gets worse again. Social media is why I think we don’t really have celebrities anymore. Social media kills the stardom because it allows the pools. It allows the common filth and dumb plebs to actually gain direct access to the stars. And I looked up Tom Cruise’s Twitter account. He has, like, an actual verified Twitter account, and it’s the most boring Twitter account in the world. It’s literally just a couple of scenes here and there from the latest Mission Impossible movie or whatever. He’s not complaining about politics. He’s not kind of claiming down the gutter. So Tom Cruise kind of retains that kind of mystique of the celebrity. Even when you think of the Oprah Winfrey thing back in the day, when it was the Scientology, he survived that because he was even more out of touch. It was like, Scientology is this kind of kooky, bullshit religion, which the super rich and the famous get involved with, but nobody that you’ve ever known really knows much about Scientology. It’s just a little garbage. It’s like space aliens and whatnot. Okay, whatever. Like cookie we had celebrities, they get a pass for that because they’re above and out of reach. When you look out to Kanye West and you think, well, okay. His big thing was his celebrity. What happens is you don’t see Tom Cruise going on. Tim pool’s livestream. It just doesn’t happen. Why? Because he has people telling him that, well, you don’t do that you make one appearance on America’s Most High Profile, make sure if that once every two years, except for that, you are out of reach. To be fair, I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio is another one. He could have had that, but he pissed a lot of it away by prattling on about climate change all of the time. And this is what I think is being lost on the Kanye West thing. It’s not really so much the message, but it’s when social media is where celebrities go to die, because all of a sudden, you’re just another one of us. You’ve descended from that lofty perch, being unaccessible, being a literal star in the heavens, shining above everybody, and then all of a sudden, what? You’re talking at Gavin McGinnis. And, you know, he’s in it for the grift. You know he’s there for just like, kind of get his own name back in the newspapers are the same with Alex Jones and the same with Tim Pool. But I do get it. It’s not so much the message that’s the problem. It’s the fact that what you’re doing is pissing away all of that sort of iconic celebrity status by going on, by turning up, by sort of appearing as if you’ve got your cap in hand, begging to go on somebody’s livestream. That’s just death. So it isn’t the message, it’s the fact that the celebrity status itself is being lost here. And I’m not against it. And this is the thing you always get the kind of all you are coming after him. Now, look, I would say maybe too late. This is just my perspective on it. But what I would suggest was that instead of like begging people to go on their live streams and doing all of these extra long form interviews, which always just take away the aura of the celebrity status, which is all he has, then what you should have been doing is just releasing a bunch of Enigmatic promote videos, putting on Twitter. Look, even that, even in the sort of the context of social media killing celebrity, yes, but it gets worse because he had a Twitter account of 30 million followers, giant platform. We all saw what Trump did. It just stepped down from being completely out of touch. Okay, that’s a massive audience. He never had a reply. Some clever tweets would have gone a long way. He pissed that away as well. Elon Musk back on. He deliberately ruined that and got banned again. So now we have a Telegram channel.

Woes: I think that there’s a lot to pick up on there. I think Kanye West is 45 years old. Let me just make sure about that. And yeah, he’s 45 years.

Morgoth: Yeah, he is.

Woes: So it’s not like he’s 20.

So I think when people say, well, this is a Zoomer thing, maybe you and I are too old to really understand how he interacts with the youth. I’m not sure about that. But at the same time, maybe it’s true. Maybe you and I just don’t get this. I don’t know. I think another aspect of what you said, maybe coming down from the stars and being a regular guy will actually endear him to a lot of people. I mean, again, it’s impossible for me to predict this black I’m not a black American. I don’t know how they think. I don’t know how they’ll feel about this, but I do think that all of this could have been handled choreographed a hell of a lot better. But he didn’t. When you’re in his position, everyone around you is of a certain persuasion. They’re not going to want to rock the boat on this issue. So who would you go to for advice on how to do this? Well, he went to Nick Fuentes and Milo.

Morgoth: Yeah. So what you end up with is, like, live streams on altright channels.

Woes: Yeah, well, Alt-Lite, let’s be precise.

Morgoth: I thought that’s what I said. But I mean, how could you better have done it? The first sort of wave where he was just, like, stripped of all of his money, like billions of dollars just gone because the ADL clicked their fingers. That was that was a fucking outrage. That’s disgusting that they have that amount of power to be able to do that. I totally get it. So the problem is actually, how do you capitalize on that? And my approach to doing that would be not to be to piss away, like, a Twitter account of 30 million followers by kind of deliberately getting on Elon Musk deliberately putting Elon Musk in a in a horrible situation. Where he’s like, okay, you’re gone, so you you keep the Twitter account so you don’t have to rely on people’s fucking Gavin McKenna’s livestream. But it’s gone now. Okay, so he still has a lot of following. You can still do some Enigmatic sort of promote videos where you leave it hanging in the air. The fact that all of this stuff has happened, who did it, why has it done it? Why can’t he talk about these things? Why is it that you say this group has power and then they react by using that power to destroy you, but you’re not allowed to say that we’ve got the power in the first place? It’s a completely ridiculous situation. It’s an open goal. It was flunked, in my point of view. I’m not even sure what’s going on with it now.

Woes: Well, unfortunately, he’s got them to prove his point. He’s got them to prove him correct. But in order to do that, he had to lose everything. That’s the price of it. I think he’s still got 200 million. So he hasn’t lost everything, but he has lost, I believe, 800 million of his fortune. It’s a difficult thing to know. I mean, I think you’re right that he should have been more subtle about this instead of just going all and certainly saying that he admires Hitler for Fox’s sake. But some people have said he’s mentally ill. I think he actually might be. I think he this might be a guy who’s hit some kind of impasse in his life and is just destroying it, just tearing his whole life down. I don’t know, but it seems kind of like that to me. There are ways to if you’re really pissed off, if you’re really angry, there are ways to get revenge. There are ways to set the record straight. There are ways to get your perspective across without destroying everything that you’ve built.

Morgoth: Well, I’ve seen people say that this is a sort of an artistic statement. In other words, the controversy itself is a kind of art form, which I kind of get, which I don’t buy it, to be honest, but okay, I’ll take the argument on. I understand it, but I still just don’t see how going on a live stream with government guests in particular, but even then, Alex Jones is kind of the well is poisoned. I actually like Alex Jones. I can actually enjoy Alex Jones show, but I’m well aware of what that says to the normal person. Now, here again, I’ve got to be careful, because I don’t know how that goes down in middle America or with kind of sort of disaffected people under 25 in America. I’ve got no idea. I’m not in that scene. I’ve got no connection to that. So maybe they’re all just loving this and it’s this kind of big, radicalization thing that’s going on. For all I know, that could be happening right now. But what I do know is that when all you have is celebrity status and then you piss away, that the aura of celebrity itself, then you’re just another bloke running on the Internet, and that’s exactly what you need to avoid. You never need to do that. And as I explained, you can see with all of these other celebrities when they engage in politics, some of the mystique is lost forever. Now I’ve got to deal with the fact that Neil McCauley in Heat, one of my top three movies of all time, is just this tedious shit lib when he’s doing the bank heist and the sound of the rifles. And the shootout coming out or when he’s we do call Leone and he’s young and he’s looking after his family and he realizes he has to kill the local mafiat on for the great to survive and get ahead, and he contemplates killing him and he switches through it and all this great performance. Amazing. It’s like, yeah. And then all of a sudden, he’s just like this pathetic rumour crying about Donald Trump or something. It’s all shattered. And it isn’t just the politics. It’s something more than that it’s the accessibility of it. It’s the same way that to be honest, Madonna never really recovered after revealing her tits and snatch the celebrities. What is the aura of a mystique then? And it’s the same if you’re going to wear a black mask and you’re going to talk to Annette or Alex Jones. The magic and the mystique of the celebrity status is the only power you’ve got. And so what you’ve done is just destroy it because it’s just like everybody else on the internet. You’re just another online shit poster.

Woes: Yeah, I agree. And I do think that it would have been better if Kanye West still had his Twitter account, for sure. 30 million people. That’s a fucking lot of people that’s your average European country I would get.

Morgoth: They could have been releasing just a set of Enigmatic videos to get the message across, which didn’t just go crazy, just enough to get everybody pointed in the right direction. All of those promote videos could have ended with a question about what happened to him and his fortune and about who you can or can’t talk about. He’s got 30 million followers. Imagine what that would have been on Twitter. This is why I’m saying it’s not the message, it’s the way that they’ve gone about it. I think it’s just completely spastic. So right now there could be videos floating around deliberately provoking in millions upon millions and millions of people. The question, why is it that happened? Why is it that with a screenshot of Jonathan Greenblatt, why does he have this power? Who are these people who elected the ADL to be the monitors of free speech in America? These kinds of things all there on little two minute promote videos from a Twitter account with 30 million followers? Absolutely.

Woes: I mean, that could have had a real effect on the culture. It could have changed society. It certainly would have been something that couldn’t be ignored. It would have to be addressed somehow. And then, of course, you can respond to that and it keeps going. In theory at least, he could have stayed on Twitter, especially Musk’s Twitter. I think Musk actually wanted to start I think Musk was kind of enjoying it and it was helping him to get one ADL and so on.

So I think he could have stayed on Musk’s sweater if he played it a certain way, but instead he insists on going the whole hog and then posting the Swastika and the Star Dave, whatever it was, and that’s it. And then that brings us actually to Elon Musk, because his comment on that he screenshots of a DM that he sent to Kanye West saying this is not love, about the swastika in the star of David, and Musk’s comment on it was, this is not love. That is fucking cringe.

Morgoth: Yeah, I think he’s trying to hold Kanye West to his own standards. At the end of the day, mosque is just a sort of Gen X kind of libertarian type and he will feel for all the reasons all of the other ones did. But nevertheless, the idea of that is like, I can’t defend this is what he’s saying. I can’t stand in your corner. But this is the problem. One of the problems is ideology, because ideology blinds people to reality. A lot of the pain we all know what we want. We all know what our goals are and what our first principles are. But when you kind of get locked in to solve on the tracks of ideological purity, then you just end up in the fuck up. Tame and tame and tame again. And it’s interesting to me that well, it’s interesting that people fuck up on one thing and then they stumble in onto the next thing and fuck that up as well in this scene. And here we are where it’s like everybody jumped on board the year train, which could have been so much better. It could have been fun. Like I said, I’m not colour signaling the signal. I know the trap there. I’m not colour signaling what it is that he’s actually saying. I’m saying the way that they’ve gone about this is kind of retarded. What are we up to now? We switched Twitter account from 30 million followers to a Telegram chat with 10,000 or something like, who gives a folk? And then what is he going to do next? He’s going to go on somebody’s stream. Next week on Odyssey. It’s the biggest pop star in the world. You kidding me. This is the positive outcome for what could have been in the good books of Elon Musk, leaning in to what at that time, Musk himself was doing, which was winding up the ADL, but doing it in a way where he wouldn’t be caught, where he couldn’t be held accountable. What you were doing was drawing out the ridiculous amount of power this obviously Zionist organization is, but not doing it in a way where the canons could fire back on you. Because at the end of the day, in Moscow’s case, it’s like, I’m just a liberal, I’m just a sensible centrist. I just believe in free speech. It’s the ADL who are calling for censorship. It’s the ADL who are getting people just fleets for billions of dollars. I’m just a liberal guy, I just want to have free speech. That’s fine. But in a realistic scenario, there is limits to it. Funny enough. It actually brings me to another article that I wrote called Centrist Caesarism, which you may actually see.

Woes: Yes, this is a very interesting concept because it immediately predated something happening on Twitter, which was just after, I think you wrote it, just after Musk took over. Then Sargon of Akkad got reinstated on Twitter after you wrote this article. And then the sensible centrism emerged. Yeah.

Morgoth: And that’s strange, isn’t it? That’s how that worked out.

Woes: Yeah, it really is. It was uncanny. Now, Academic Agent was on Millennial last night, and he talked about sensible centrism. I think from his perspective, it is basically and I might be twisting it here, I hope not. It’s basically don’t be an Edge Lord for the sake of it. Don’t drive people away for the sake of being the most controversial person in the room. Don’t have cartoonishly extreme opinions. It’s just sort of silly. And it is. It’s juvenile. And I’ve said the same thing for years. The issue I have with sensible centrism, and I said this to Academic Agent last night, is the word centrism. I think we should be sensible, but I think that the centre is where people don’t really believe in anything. Like Elon Musk doesn’t really believe in anything. I think in order to really defend something, you have to be an extremist in a certain way, because the people who are dead against that thing and want to destroy it, they’re extreme in their own way. Again, I’ve got to be careful how I phrase this, but I think in order to save a thing that is under attack, that takes extreme measures, or it could do at any rate, the ideas are going to be radical relative to the time in which they are appearing. In other words, I think that my ideas are completely sensible. I think that my great-grandparents would have agreed with me on virtually everything and everyone everyone in Britain would have agreed with me on virtually everything four generations ago, but relative to the norm today, my ideas are radical. That’s just a fact. And I wish it weren’t true, but I think it is true. So if I try to rebrand myself as a well, I’m actually a centrist and my enemies are the extremists. The reason I think that will fail is they have the power. They have the power to rebrand and reauthor things. I don’t the term, all right, at one point, it meant one thing, and then the mainstream media took it out of our hands and changed the definition, and there was literally nothing that we could do they just owned it. They just took it and altered what it meant. And they can do that because they have the power. So if I tried to say, I’m actually not this bad guy you might have heard about I’m actually a sensible centrist, the issue with that is that I’m kind of pissing into the wind, even if it’s technically true that my ideas aren’t that extreme or whatever.

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Morgoth: Yeah, I have to point out there’s a difference between my article on centrist Caesarism and the sensible centre thing, because my article, my essay, which, yes, it’s funny enough, it did predate by about five days the explosion under the scene of the sensible centres, which is funny. It’s a funny thing, that. But nevertheless, my article is not about, let’s say, the far-Right, because we have to be explicit if we’re talking about the centres position, you’ve got the far Left, you’ve got the far-Right and you’ve got the centre. My concept here is not that the far-Right will somehow disguise themselves as centrists and get in under good optics and being kind of moderate and claiming the normal position. Rather what I was getting at was that actual centrists, actual people who are centrists, will actually step up the bat and then defend their own position. Now, there’s a few things to touch on. Here what I got into. I kicked the article off. It was quite a long article. Obviously, it has sort of connotations of Oswald Spengler’s Caesarism. So if you go back to actual Caesar himself, Julius Caesar, he wasn’t an extremist, he was also a pragmatic centrist. And this is clue. Again, I’m not coming at this from the perspective of the dissident of far-Right sphere subverting the centre or claiming the centre. It is the centre itself which is actually realizing itself.

So that’s important. And so if you look at sort of Caesarism in general, they would be populist, but they were first and foremost pragmatic and not idealists. And I kicked the article off by there’s Brett Weinstein and his wife, who do a podcast, which I’ll dip into now and then for the Cuva type thing. I watched. Obviously he’s jewish, but I think she’s a gentile. But the sentiment, what they expressed was that we are upper middle class, where professionals are highly educated, where we are liberals in a genuine, classic liberal sense, and there is nobody anywhere in the American political sphere who represents us. Nowhere. So an example of this would be the rule versus weird sort of discussion in America about abortion. And the way they framed it was that on the one hand, you’ve got where people want to ban abortion completely, and then on the other hand, it’s like the other side of the argument is that basically it’s just killing babies. As soon as they’re born, it gets insane. And they were saying, where is the middle ground on this? Where is the nuanced centrist middle ground position on this? Where was it on the vaccines? Where was it on covert? Where is it on immigration? There is no middle ground. It’s a very American thing. And so it got me thinking, because the potential resources that this position has are quite large, but they’ve got a problem and they’ve got the same problem that classic liberalism always has had, and it’s that it’s easily cooked and subverted. So, yeah, we bring Elon Musk into the equation, who is himself a classic liberal with a massive amount of resources, as we’ve seen. And we’ve also seen what he’s trying to do with Twitter. And what interested me was when he said that both the far-Right and the far Left would be equally pissed off with the way he was going to handle Twitter.

Woes: So I remember a Remnant poster talked about this. He made a post and he said, this shows you how vaped his thinking is. No, well, go on.

Morgoth: I completely disagree with that, because basically it isn’t vaped if he’s just going to shut down the extremes of both sides. Because what this amounts to is power without ideology. It is arbitrary. In Elon Musk’s case, it is purely sort of defending the centre against the extremes. So what you’re talking about is something which is purely pragmatic and made up on the fly. And if you detect something which is a danger, let’s say Kanye West with a swastika and the Star of David or whatever, but at the same time, over on the Left side of that is just outright child abuse and paedophilia both get banned. So the sort of the ontology here is what you have to draw on the question, is it vehicleed or can it stand sore? Well, it will need a kind of ideal to draw itself on. So what will that idea be? Well, it will be, and this is the long standing criticism of Han Alvarez and a sort of 1980s idealism, which we spoke about, which when America was a good thing, when you look at all of the movie critic, YouTube and Sauron or Elon Musk, they’re not real classic liberals. They’re not classic liberals in the sense of like, Francis Galton or John Locke or all of this. What they really are is nostalgic for the 1980s. So they can actually draw on the 1980s as a kind of epistemology, as a kind of ideal and a vision to strive towards. And then they can say, okay, this is our ideal and we’re going to enforce it. And unlike in the past, let’s say, when it was like, we will platform our enemies, we will platform the far Left, they never really platform the far-Right, but we’re here, they seem to be learning. So then what the idea is, well, no, we’re going to ban them. We need just to be purely pragmatic, because in a sense, where we are in the civilization is beyond ideology. And the essence of Caesarism is pragmatic power, not ideology. Caesarism doesn’t in Spangler’s terms, it’s the end of politics. And what you end up with is just pure pragmatism again, for the greater good.

Woes: Well, when the world is as messed up as it is, can you get back to sanity? Can you restore no things from a centrist mindset?

Morgoth: No, you can’t. What you do is initiate, for example, from the centrist classic liberal point of view, censorship. You don’t do that, you don’t censor people. Otherwise it’s a kind of betrayal of your core principles. Well, it turns out that actually you will just sense of people in the name of the greater good, in the name of stability, in the name of order. And so this is when you bring in a word like aura, you begin to see the sort of Caesarism in the background. Vladimir Putin is in this. Way, just a centrist who is pragmatic when you see people crying because he jails White nationalists or whatever. Look, it’s an objective analysis. I’m not applying a value here. You’ve got to be a realist about these things. And the fact is, it’s just going to lead to instability within Russia to allow these certain ideas to percolate and spray. So you shut it down. Simple as that. And I don’t see why this isn’t going to be the thing that happens in the West where you get somebody who’s like, okay, call me. I don’t care. I’m going to shoot you down. I’m going to shut down Drag Queen Story Hour, and I don’t give a flying fuck about your First Amendment rights. That’s just wrong. You do not get to be sort of a Neo Nazi either. This is not me speaking. This is the central Caesarist. Son of speaking is the way that I framed it. And I think there’s a big base for that. And the reason why it leans into Caesarism is because people are just exhausted with politics. They’re just tired of it. On the one hand, the Caesar is a populist figure, but again, the populists aren’t far-Right or far Left. They just want to have a quiet life, and they will support who gives them that. It may well be that you begin to see people sort of centrist type standing up against the technocracy. We don’t want to live in this surveillance grid. I’m not like an extremist. I just don’t want to live in a kind of panopticon prison. Can somebody come and solve this problem? Can somebody come and get these fucking technocrats out of my life? Where my phone isn’t going to pass judgment on how many times I’ve gone for a piston here? Can somebody please just close the fucking border? I’m not like a White supremacist. Can somebody just do some normal shit here? Because this is getting insane. And it literally begs for a centrist to come up and say, yeah, I’ll do that. I’ll shut down the extremists. And this is the thing. It won’t make sense. Such a worldview is riddled with paradoxes because it’s power deciding in Schmidt. It’s the shift decisionism. You make the decision, and then you justify it afterwards. But the point is that they are the power, and then they will arbitrarily decide who gets to do what and who gets to speak and who doesn’t. This is life beyond politics. So when you say, oh, well, Leon must cook, he isn’t far-Right. He isn’t far Left. He’s a pragmatic centrist. So the essence of centrist Caesarism is different from his sensible centre because it isn’t a bunch of, like, far-Rightists wearing the camouflage of being more benign than what they are. They actually are that, but they have learnt to live with the sins of the past, if you like, when they were just travelled all over and cooked. Now you see it with Musk and Twitter as an example. Potentially, Donald Trump could have been lake this. So you see more and more of these figures popping up where it’s like, I’m not really ideological. I don’t have an ideological vision to implement on the world. I don’t have this perfect utopian system that I’m shilling, but I’ll just do what I can in the moment and make things best and shilling down. Extremists is point number one. And, yeah, it’s shit because that’s going to include us.

Woes: Well, yeah, I understand what you’re saying. It’s a pragmatic, sort of, okay, let’s just all calm down, and if the people who won’t calm down will keep them out of the room. But in the end, that doesn’t actually solve the real problems, does it? I mean, it’s a temporary solution. It’s like a sticking plaster, but it’s not actually solving the problems of society.

Morgoth: Well, no, there’s no vision. It’s stagnation and cultification. It’s just trying to hold it all together. That’s what Caesarism is.

Woes: Yeah.

Morgoth: To be fair, it does offer the degree of stability, but there’s no Catholics here. There is no happy ever after in the claim. This is why it’s important to get back to the issue that Caesarism is what happens when you went over the winter. Another mistake that I think people make is that when they talk of Caesar and not so much like Caesarism, it’s an age of turbulence. It is an age of sort of larger than life characters arriving on the scene and placing themselves in the centre of power and being at odds and at war with bureaucratic systems.

Woes: So would you say that this is a temporary thing, then? A temporary state?

Morgoth: I think it’ll just go on and on. It’s the tension that’s there. The tension and the turmoil is baked into the cake.

Woes: Okay, so things have reached such a point that extremism of different kinds have messed up the situation so much that at this point, it arrives at a sort of stasis where we won’t fix the problem, we just won’t allow it to get any worse. Yeah, right. I mean, that is a depressing prospect, and I understand what you’re saying. This is where the client starts to decelerate and then you’re just left with this soup of dysfunction. It doesn’t get any worse, but it doesn’t get any better.

Morgoth: Yes. And you’ll sort of just kind of limp along and do your best. Don’t get me wrong, the December of Caesarism can absolutely be a Police State, because if just pragmatic, straightforward solutions demanded that you’ve got all of these ethnic groups on each other’s roots, then, yeah, that’s the way it is. You’re dealing with the sort of the afterbirth of all of the problems which came before I’m not an optimist. You’ve just got to do the best you can. I mean, what was it like in the late stages of Raw? Where were you better off? You were better off being out on the countryside, to be honest, because there’s no saving the metropolis. Because as we’ve discussed for hours now, it’s terminally corrupt. And if you have this brain, this kind of shame in you ideology, they’re going to shit you down like to do. There’s a kind of paradox in in kind of sort of far-Right circles where on the one hand, this is a shitty system, it’s killing our people. We all get it. It’s horrible. We want to replace it. And the root cause of that is liberalism. So we hate liberalism. Liberalism is bad. Liberalism has to go. But the problem is the more extreme that you go from the perspective of liberalism itself, from the perspective of the centre, the more justified liberalism is and shutting you down. But at the same time, the more reliant you are on the rights granted to you through liberalism. So if you’re kind of like the edgiest guy on Telegram, you’re coming up with all this extreme stuff and the Deep State decides to come to your house in the middle of the night and shoot you through the back of the head. Why would they not do that? It happens in other regimes. It would happen in style as Russia, it would happen in Mao was China. So what is it that’s preventing when you do an edgy post in the chat, there only account we’re all announced, well, Moses isn’t what I am as well. When you go super edgy and you think you can get away with it, well, they know who you are. What gives you the Right? What gives you the right to be a racist on the internet at the end of the day? What gives you the right to stand on a street corner with a placard saying Whites are going to be a minority in 2060? Where does that come from? Well, it comes from liberalism. You think you have the right to do these things because liberalism grants you these freedoms, but at the same time you’re also soaring away and criticizing that branch. So what you’re actually doing is presenting yourself as a kind of exception. Because if you’re going to attack the fundamentals while relying on them, the system is going to say, well, no, the reason why nobody is showing up to your house in the middle of the night and shooting you back. Through the back of the head is because there is at least still the AirPods and the width of a kind of standard Western liberal democracy here.

Woes: Yeah, I mean, I remember when a certain figure, prominent figure in this movement was on YouTube would have been about 2018, 2019, and he said, do we actually care about free speech or do we believe in freedom of speech? We’ll not say that outlight. And it was sort of joking. I’ve just said it out like kind of thing. But he was admitting that he would censor his opponents, he would imprison his enemies and whatever the trouble is, he’s doing that on a platform that shortly after that banned him because of course it did, but he’s just given them the rationale to ban him. He’s just said, well, freedom of speech isn’t that important. I mean, it is retarded. It is all through the branch that you’re relying on, it’s absolutely retarded.

Morgoth: And I ran into trouble on Telegram a year or two back with somebody from Australia because I pointed out that these kind of the national action tape fellas and what they were doing was deliberately antagonizing the liberalism. In the end, it comes down to power, whether you like it or not. Power will grant privileges to people. It will leave people alone if they don’t threaten it. This kind of thing, if you’re literally standing on a street corner saying, I’m going to take look, the people who occupy positions of power are being told by people who are powerless that they will face sort of Gulags, that they will be put on trial for our lives. If their group gains power, then the group who are now dominant will be hung or worse. If you want to go into some of the auggie chats, well, what does that say to them? What does that say to the people in power? What it says to the people in power is that we’ll crush you like ants because if we don’t, you’re going to kill us.

Woes: Yeah.

Morgoth: This is the essence of politics and you’ve got these people who think they’re clued up. And again, the problem is ideology. It’s like, wow, I don’t care. I’ve got this revealed truth. I’ve got this truth to spread my ideology, my book, my bullet points, my perfect utopia is imminent. And it’s like, well, okay, can we get it off Telegram? Where’s it going to go? Because at the end of the day, the realist perspective on this is that power are just going to crush you like an ant.

Woes: Yeah, I think this is a huge problem and you can talk all you like if you don’t have power, that’s it. And I think this is something become very clear to people over the last few years. There were already foreshadowings off it before Covid but it definitely became clear then that if you have power, and I’ve said this a hundred times, I’m sorry to repeat it, but if you have power, you can offer the narrative, if you don’t, you can’t. It’s as simple as that. So having ideology, and I understand what you’ll know as well as I do, that there are young people in our movement who are obsessed with ideology and getting the ideology right. Because once you’ve got the ideology, then you can capture the public or you can capture, movers and shakers. You can persuade them with the idea. Either way, the ideology will recommend you to other people and it will help you, enable you to persuade other people and I just don’t think that’s true.

Morgoth: And by the way, just a minor point. The ideology itself isn’t that great. There’s a certain, let’s say, Nativist who would even deny property rights. So that like, my dad worked all his life, he owns his own house, he paid off a mortgage. But that would make him a kind of property owning, individualist Anglo, and he needs to kind of subordinate himself to the new socialist kind of Third World Hegelian Dialectic superstate. And my dad will just say, here, Pump, fuck off, will you take your fucking book of bullshit and shove it up your fucking hoop. I’ve worked all my life for this house and I’m going to hand it over because you’re a fucking ideologue on the internet. You look it. Fuck you.

Woes: Yes, well, in the end, it comes back to these tangible things. If you can’t appeal to people’s desire for certain things, a family, freedom, self sufficiency, autonomy, or something more like the nation, the religion that they believe in, et cetera. And this is something that AA said last night, that people are not really animated by values and principles. And I agreed and I said, yeah, I think they’re animated by something tangible that they can protect and defend or pursue, like a goal. And if you can’t do that, then I don’t think it’s going to get off the ground. Now, we hope that people will care about their ethnic group. They obviously shoot, I mean, everyone else does. And the animal kingdom, it goes without saying, but for some reason why people don’t seem to care about their group. They’ll fight flight to their group, but when their group is under political and cultural attack, they will suddenly believe that they don’t have a group, that their group doesn’t exist. And this is a huge problem because it leaves us very vulnerable and naked to what other groups want to do to us. That’s, again, just a fact, as we were saying earlier about wartime vegetable growing and so on. And I think this is a problem for the ideologues because well, you go.

Morgoth: I was just going to say one of the things about the sort of the centrist Caesarism concept would be that in a way it would be cringe, but at the same time really edgy. And I’m not saying that I support it, but if you actually enforce their ideals, such as free speech and being reisblind, they would actually be massively destructive to the way that the West is constructed these days. You can see a little bit of a hint of that with Elon Musk and as his kind of interaction with Anti-Defamation League. It would always be about and I mentioned this in the article it would always be about negotiating with the outliers and coming to a kind of Pragmatic solution. But there would be no as they have now, where they just dominate. If you think of something like free speech, you can have free speech except in these certain circumstances, but it will no longer be dedicated or predicated on the Equalities Act or the Civil Rights Act, but more on just the rights of the individual to have free speech. And something like affirmative action would go. The White privilege theory. Shit would go. All of these things would be just tossed out because that isn’t a 1980 decision, that’s like a sort of 2010s kind of vision. It would be like this kind of tragic kind of desperate attempt to take the 2020s back to the 20s, back to when Predator was great, back to when we could watch Alien and not view Ripley as like a feminist icon and all of this kind of thing. But it would be massively disruptive nevertheless, because we’ve drifted so far to the Left that even a return to a kind of centre position where we just stand on normal liberal Western values would be catastrophic for the system that we have to do they believe that there’s this kind of self right potential, which I just don’t think there is, I think, what’s interesting about it would be that it would be hugely disruptive and destructive to the present system. Even just this kind of Gen X kind of return to Ghostbusters.

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Woes: People are asking, if this is all true, then what’s the point of even talking about this stuff? Which is a bit of a disgruntled point to make, but it’s valid. What is the point of talking? If basically we are stuck in the stasis now with Caesarism, a stupid dysfunction, as I said earlier, and radical ideas are going to be rejected outright, then what is the point of analyzing it anymore?

Morgoth: Well, I’m not saying what I did was post a hypothetical. So in the case of the central season, maybe it won’t happen. What I did was write an article about it, which is analyzing trends and drawing on some sort of influences from the past and saying this is where it could go. I’m not saying that it’s absolutely certain. Maybe it would. Maybe it will just be the outright technocracy. The purpose in talking about all of this is because we’re trying to get a grip of what’s going on in the world around us.

Woes: Yeah, I agree. And that’s going to be the case. No matter what turns up, it’s still going to be that we are living in this world and we’re trying to come to grips with it, trying to understand it.

So I think it’s still valid. But obviously what the person is pointing towards is the need for a practical direction. And I think you and I are not good at this, frankly. We’re not optimized for this. We’re optimized for analyzing a situation, wondering about ideas and possibilities. Ruminating but people want practical advice and maybe you could say don’t go to the right person for the thing that you want. I think at one point, and this is something that I lament. At one point there was a practical direction. There was what we called the alt right. And I thought that we were a change in culture. I think we were. I think that’s why they had to censor us. That’s why they felt they had to censor us because there was a genuine danger these ideas would become not we would necessarily capture the masses with them, but that the ideas would become so pervasive that they would be impossible to ignore. So better to just shut them down, just nip it in the bud. I think that was why the censorship started. And so at that point there was a sense of direction. But once the censorship kicked in, there’s less of a sense of direction because people individually and collectively don’t know what to do. How can they help themselves? How can they help their group? How can they help their family? How do they raise their kids? I mean, these are very valid and pressing questions. If we are going to be living in a super dysfunction a society that doesn’t really make sense, doesn’t work towards any particular goals except those of the technocrats which might often be hidden. And if society doesn’t work in your favour, then how do you raise a kid to survive and perhaps even thrive in that environment? It’s a very difficult thing. I don’t know what to advise people here.

Morgoth: Well, there’s people who know about this because you’re talking about the basics. I mean, the Woodlanders in the chart, he’s watches stuff. He’s more clued up on this. The sort of the basic how to survive offgrid get together network. I mean, I’m doing that in my own life. That’s what we should be doing. And it isn’t to say that there is absolutely no political situation. Maybe there is, but I just don’t see it. But the political situation will be something which is new and kind of doesn’t trigger the alarms or it will be an elite within the current system who goes wrong. And that’s not as outlandish as what you might think. Actually there’s already signs of that happening in recent years. You can see that there is this problem that they’ve got. You’ve got Donald Trump, you got Elon Musk, even to a certain degree, I would say of Vladimir Putin. They don’t have everything locked down, but in terms of sort of dishing out some kind of straightforward advice or there’s parties out there. There are organizations out there already. They do exist. They are there. My own take is to not whack the horn, it’s nest and kind of stay out of touch, don’t trigger the alarm systems and prepare yourself for what’s to come. And somebody like Woodlander does a great job of that. There is also organizations out there who are doing things in the real world. If you think that’s a viable solution, these things are there. My personal view is that things are going to get really bad. And what we already have is this kind of network. And at the end of the day, what me and Melaniel Wood are doing here we are just two blocks talking on the internet. There’s a sizable audience and everything. I can give my take on what’s happening in the world right now and where I think things could go or what this new piece of culture was, what that means in the current side case and whatnot. But at the end of the day, I can’t chop firewood for you or make sure that you’ve got gold when the system collapses. There’s so much of this kind of I watch some of the big conspiracy channels like Max Egan on BitChute sometimes. The stuff he comes up with is much more outlandish than what we’ve discussed here. But he says this again and again. At the end of the day, I can’t do this for you. I’m literally a normal bloke sitting in a flat and bloody North Daims aid. The organizations exist. There’s people out there left, right and centre offering advice. I don’t really understand it.

Woes: Yeah. Are there any other articles that you would like to talk about?

Morgoth: No.

So I think we’re sorting winding it down. We’ve been going for nearly 5 hours here.

Woes: Yeah. Okay, then in that case we’ll do the Superchat. Hold on a second. Let me get through these. There are quite a few. All right, I will go through them this way. We started at 08:00 p.m. Seems quite a long time ago now. All right. I hypocrite hello there. Welcome. He said, Keep up the good warrant, gentlemen. Thank you very much. It’s nice to see you. Empty Vessel said, I am not a conspiracy theorist. Things aren’t adding up and it’s pretty bloody obvious. Yeah, the term conspiracy theorist is a stupid term that was designed to discredit the idea that there are conspiracies. But there are conspiracies, there always have been and of course it’s going to continue.

Morgoth: It can relate to that sort of the painful question which just came up before, which I understand, look, don’t get as well I understand it, but I don’t have all the answers either. I’m just an all blue, but I remember that sort of Catherine Austin Fitz. She’s in with the sort of anti grade reset. She’s a specialist in economics and her take on this was pretty good. And she said, if you don’t believe in conspiracy theories, you better start believing and you better start getting yourself inside of a conspiracy theory as fast as possible. The way you get through this is to be within a circle of conspiracy. Because the point that she’s making is that if you’re just kind of a mass of atomized individuals, as EA would say, the organized minority will just rule over you time and time again. So get within a circle of conspiracy as fast as possible, or a network is more politely put.

Woes: Yeah, okay, orthodoxy. What does Morgoth think the likely outcome will be for Putin in Ukraine? Does he see America’s shambolic exit from Afghanistan as a catalyst which prompted Putin to undertake his operation?

Morgoth: It’s possible. I mean, I always wonder what happened to all of that gear in Afghanistan. The American military just seemed to leave, like, $150,000,000,000 worth of the best gear ever you can imagine in Afghanistan, really for nothing. I understand that there’s some cost thing, and I was like, well, this kind of era is over and done with, and we were going to just sort of allow the Taliban to take over. Yeah, I get it. It’s going to destabilize that part of the world. Yeah, okay, I get it. But still, just the sheer amount of equipment that they seem to leave behind, that seems weird. I don’t get that. I wonder if I found it with the Ukraine. I don’t know. I’m not really a geopolitics kind of guy. The long term consequences, I think, are by the looks of it, we are all very close to 2023, and we’re going to be coming onto a year for this war. I don’t think the Russians wanted that. I think the Russians are its not going according to what they wanted. Sooner or later, there’s going to be some kind of peace talks and we’ll see what happens. It’s a problem because either way, you’re going to end up with a need or kind of global home with Ukraine, or which is against what Russia wanted in the first place, or it just grains on and on and on. But my personal thoughts on this, regardless of the politics, is that both Russia and Ukraine, like everywhere else in the White world, have shit birth rates. When you look at World War II, the European nations had, like, high birth rates. We had birth rates which were the equivalent of, like, Afghanistan or something. You’re talking like, three or four children, at least half of them. So each woman may be producing two boys, which will become men who could fight in a war. We don’t have that now. And so when you’re looking at sending the youth of Russia and Ukraine, both of them and hundreds of thousands of prime sort of young men are just being wiped out. This is catastrophically bad for the demographics of those country and the long term health of those countries. Because when you went into this kind of modernity, this particular era of modernity where we are and everybody’s got fucking macro plastic in their ball sacks, everybody’s eating shit all of the time, the fucking women are lesbians, everybody’s determined of a tranny, it’s already bad enough. The last thing that you need is to send in your prime fucking stock to wipe each other out in a war like this because there’s no coming back from it. And the worst of it is that America is such a nihilistic empire that they don’t even give two shits about their own stock. You can at least say that. I don’t believe for a second that Zelensky cares about the Ukrainian people, but at least in theory, I can understand the Russian motivation here, even if it is quite cool in regards to Russian manpower. But, yeah, they’re sacrificing an entire generation of men, which we can’t afford anymore.

Woes: Yeah. And even more horrifying is that the solution to that will be mass immigration from Africa and the Middle East.

Morgoth: Certainly in the case of Ukraine, yeah.

Woes: There is a country murdering itself here. It’s just absolutely fucking dreadful. We didn’t even go into that. The whole stuff about Ukraine being a proxy for America, the Ukrainians themselves having their own interests, their own history or whatever, but it doesn’t matter because they’re basically owned and controlled by America. There’s that whole aspect. It’s been gone into another episode of Millennial. But do you have anything to say about that?

Morgoth: Well, what I will say is that I said at the beginning I wasn’t going to get invested, I wasn’t going to get involved in in the inevitable infighting that would happen because of this. And I didn’t to be honest, I didn’t. But it seemed to me that the argument which came down on the side of nationalism for everybody, which was the Ukrainian side all right, let’s just take that on board for a second. The nationalism for everybody argument, as opposed to the other side of it, which was more the Third Positioner’s stance, which was that while NATO is gay, America is gay, the West is gay, and Putin is standing up for himself on a more traditional order, and he was provoking the war. That’s kind of the two stances on it. But it seems to me that the nationalism for everybody argument died with an old stream pipeline. And in fact, if you’re going to talk about this in terms of national sovereignty, like, I’m English and I’m an isolationist. So my point here is that I don’t think we should be involved and I said this at the start in either way, the Ukrainians have absolutely the right to defend their homeland. They do not have the right to demand money from my government or arms, or that my government should intervene on their behalf at all. And the only people doing that are the Deep State of Britain and America, as always, colluding. But even if we take that, even if we take the argument that, well, national sovereignty and the sovereignty of people is what’s most important, but we don’t have that. I don’t have that. We don’t have that in England. We don’t have that in Britain. We are in control of our own destinies as it is if you could put it to a plebiscite for the masses and say, do you free? Barton this is where we get back to the nudge and the applied psychology and the propagandizing of the population. If you could strip all of that bullshit away, they said, Is this any of our businesses? Most of them would say, no, it isn’t, to be honest, and we would stay out of it. So this idea of national self-determination is refuted by the very fact that we are living on our own American empire. I mean, the North Stream pipeline thing is the most extreme example of it. Because all of a sudden, in the name of sovereignty and defending the ideal of people having sovereign power over their land, we’re going to blow up Germany’s main source of energy, reduce the people to poverty, and they’re not going to have a say in it that they’re fucked. Okay? So our energy prices go through the roof and we’ve got our own people freezing the death in their homes and choking on mould. Where is that argument for national sovereignty now? All you’re left with is being a bunch of fucking horse folded American Deep State.

Woes: Yeah.

Morgoth: You can make that argument in principle, but it dies as soon as the sovereignty of the nation states of Western Europe are done away with. They were done away with after World War II, but now it’s explicit because now it’s like, well, what we’re expecting just freeze and cook and pay £3 for a loaf of bread, but in solidarity for the people of Ukraine. Even though we never had a say in any of this, I don’t see that argument stacking up at all.

Woes: Yeah. And even though the people of Ukraine were basically that this war was imposed upon them by America, by continually goading Russia, so they didn’t do this either. So the whole thing has been orchestrated and I agree with you completely, the whole thing about Nord Stream. I did an entire episode of my weekly show The Gram about Nord Stream because it just seemed incredible at the time. It seemed so significant. And it’s still that America fucked one of its own allies in such a way that it’s going to have repercussions long, even if there’s war ended tomorrow. Well, Nordstrom still isn’t there. Germany is fucked, I guess you could say. Well, once the war is over, they’ll just repair the pipeline because it won’t be a problem anymore, Germany trading with Russia. But that’s not really the point. It will still be a problem for America if Germany does that because that strengthens the relationship between Germany and Russia and it also strengthens Germany, which again, America doesn’t want. It wants people buying stuff from America. So this whole thing is disastrous for Europe. And again, it’s not just about the war. The war is the excuse for America to bomb that pipeline. But the offensive of that will go far beyond the war.

Morgoth: Yeah. You reach this kind of precipice, you reach this uncomfortable position where if we are going to kind of take the idea of national sovereignty and nationalism seriously, what’s in the best interest for the people of Europe, we have to turn around of the Americans and say, it’s not you are the problem here, because Germany and Russia were doing fine. So it’s a complicated situation. But we reached the point where nationalists in Europe and I know this has been kind of a bit of a running thing without being insulting to the American people or how it all came about. You can blame this entirely on the Deep State and on the State Department and everything, but we’ve reached a place here where we are better off being allies with powers on the Eurasian landmass than you. And in my own opinion, especially when we bring in the toxic rebrand and the trannies and the gay flag and the fucking blacks and worshipping all of this fucking bullshit that America just pisses all over the world, which everybody hates. So it’s like Lenny. America has become like Lenny of Mason men, this kind of giant retard thing which just threatens to break everybody’s skulls. And it’s like, oh, can we do something about this problem? Can we do something about the retard problem, which America has become here?

Woes: Yeah, I don’t think there’s anything to say to that. Really. The whole thing about national sovereignty is very interesting. I remember you got into an argument with someone on Telegram who was talking about Ukraine and national sovereignty. It’s important that we defend Ukraine because they are national sovereignty. And you made this point about Nord Stream. Well, what about German national sovereignty? And, of course, what about British national sovereignty and all these countries in Western Europe that are under the thumb of America? The whole thing is and then you ended up with people having to say, well, it probably wasn’t America that bombed the pipe lane, because that rubber sees their whole thing about defending the American line here.

Morgoth: But it doesn’t even matter. It wouldn’t surprise me that if it was the British Special Forces, but it.

Woes: Doesn’T matter because they were under the control.

Morgoth: Yeah, we’re still under the form of Washington. Once again, we’re left with the problem of national sovereignty. If we are willing to go right to the line of a nuclear war with Russia, then I remember Nick Griffin in the BNP back in the day, and he was offered he did an interview when he said this, when the BNP were doing great, the BNP surge. And Nick Griffin was approached behind the scenes, and he spoke about this, and he said, we’ll turn a blind eye, but we don’t want you talking about the money power. We don’t want you talking about the banks and this kind of thing. And then I remember you, Mickey said, in this hypothetical situation where the BNP, they gained power, they gained a lot of power in Britain. To be fair, this is how seriously they took the BNP threat in 2000. Now, of course, they just don’t allow them to register as a party the question what Nick Griffin had to address for the base was that, are we going to start and deport people if the BNP gained power? And I always remember in this speech that I watched of Nick Griffin, which I found was interesting, and he said, we can’t do that because if we did, the Americans would bomb us. They’d flatten Britain if the BNP in power and we begin sending people home on ships, on aircraft carriers, on whatever it happens to be. So forced deportations of the immigrants since the Blair era and whatnot, the Americans were bombers. And I thought that it’s true, isn’t it? If you’re honest about it, and if you think about how that works with the bureaucracy, if you think of the implications on the so-called special relationship he’s right. They would I think I think Britain would become a pariah state, but not because of Europe. Well, now it’s different with the European Union, maybe, but it wouldn’t lead to that. It would be sanctions. It would be all of these problems that would come first. But I think he has a point. I think America would be the first country to kick up a fuss about such a policy. Not Russia, not China, not any of the Islamic countries. It would be the Americans. That would be the American Deep State who said, you do not deport those immigrants.

Woes: Yeah, I completely agree. America is the thing that is blocking us from fixing the situation in Europe. Even the political parties, even assuming that they wanted to, it would be a fear of America that stops them from actually doing it, because America, everyone knows the firepower is just enormous, and I think they would not hesitate to use it. I think if they thought that Le Pen is getting into power in France, she’s going to start mass deportations. Well, I guess they would try economic sanctions first. Well, this gets us to the issue of how powerful is America at this stage? They would try the economic sanctions first, for sure, but would they then go farther? And that leads us back to the Afghanistan withdrawal. I don’t know. This is something that’s impossible for me to judge.

Morgoth: They’ve got a lot of tools in the box. I mean, whether you want to talk about in terms of the Americans actually dropping bombs on London because we were deporting immigrants, it seems ridiculous, but they can do a lot. They can do a lot with torpedoing. You know, the central banks stepping in. We’ve seen it with Russia. We would get the Russia treatment. What what they have thrown at Russia, we would get. But we couldn’t deal with that because we’re not sufficient the way Russia is.

Woes: Yeah, exactly. All right, let’s move on to the next one. Darby said, Loving millennial, can you let Morgoth know that I find myself weeping after watching his and the band played on video? I don’t know how you do it, but I haven’t felt that deeply emotional since my grandfather passed away.

Morgoth: Yeah, that was a nice one that we didn’t get a touch on because I’ve been a bit serious tonight. I’m not sure what people want me to get into. I said earlier, the stuff that I like to do the most, heartfelt stuff, it isn’t the kind of if I’m honest, I don’t really give a shit about Kanye West, but it’s kind of like, well, people want to hear my view on it and so I’ll give it. And yet the video and the essay The Band Played On was like something which I was really like, maybe the top three kind of things that I did this year in terms of content the Band Played On would be right up there. Hardly anybody mentions it, nobody cares. They want to know, like, oh, well, if the excess deaths are actually going down and, oh, well, the vaccine wasn’t this bad. I’m kind of dragged into the kind of the hot take culture. But if you actually look like my actual content is a little bit different, it’s a little bit more personal, and the band played on, the whole thing behind it. What I said in the video was all true. I was out in Northumberland walking my dog and I came across this little sort of ceremony memorial thing. And I heard the brass band playing. I heard the vicar giving a sermon about the miners that had died. And I tried to do one of my quick take telephone style videos, but the weather was awful. It was windy and it just wouldn’t work. So I put it away. I thought, I’m going to come back to this. This is a subject I’m going to come back to. And what it was about was just the relationship between the history of the north, especially in England, but the military and the brass band. What really matters about it is that it’s a part of our culture and our heritage which hasn’t been territorialized. The brass band has a certain effect on English people and people say, well, it’s nostalgic. It always was nostalgic. Even in the 1960s, 1980s, the brass band was actually a thing to come out of the Industrial Revolution. And the factory bosses, they didn’t want their workers engaging in politics. So what they did was set up these brass bands, which were instruments which were quite cheap and that would occupy their free time of the night time. And so what happened was that this kind of dripped into British culture especially, and it has a kind of militaristic feel. The military itself adopted it, obviously. Marching the brass band, it was a thing in the unions and the mines and all these things, and I just happened to come across this beautiful little spectacle with a brass band playing, the vicar giving a sermon, and it was all about just the history of this village in Northumberland. What I try to do is try to find little gaps in the way we live now and it’s little gaps of authenticity and ways of thinking and feeling which are just for us and don’t belong to anybody else.

So that’s what that video is about. So thanks for that.

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Woes: Yeah, it is a thing that sometimes, and I had this quite a few times on YouTube where you would make a video that you really cared about, but it wouldn’t make much of a splash. And then, conversely, you could do something very off the cuff that you didn’t think was really anything special and loads of people would like it and it’s nice when that happens, but it’s damn disappointing when the first thing happens. It’s a shame, but it’s just the plight of the content creator, really. You can’t predict what is going to matter to people. Okay, grief gave smiley face and thank you for that. Oliver said, do you guys think that a form of direct democracy, like the one Switzerland has, using referendums might be a way to stop the walk abuse of power that we experience here in the UK? I can answer that, yes, and I would like it. I think that I have a lot more time for referendums. I have a lot more respect for referendums and again, I can’t remember if it’s referenda, but anyway, than I do for party politics. Party politics is just so corruptible and in our age, so corrupt, it’s just absolutely fucking useless at this point. But I think referendums are a bit harder to twist. I mean, the establishment definitely didn’t want the result from the Brexit referendum that it got.

Morgoth: Well, imagine we’ve got all of these little parties to the right of the Tory Party, and imagine if there was a little party in embryonic form, behind the scenes, and their pitch was, in a way, going to be localism. And what I mean is, they would have a system using, ironically, digital technology being up to date, and what their sort of plan would be, would be where each PM MP, sorry, would be held accountable by what they pledged and what they did in Parliament. And what you would have would be a form of localism where let’s just say in somewhere like Brighton on the south coast, they would always vote for shitlibs. And if I’m coughing a bit here, I’m struggling because I’ve been talking for so much, but give us a second.

Woes: I’ll try to speak more plentifully when it is a question.

Morgoth: If you’ve got a party of shitlibs, you got Brighton on the south coast, they will vote for more work, more immigration, more whatever, more White privilege, more Judge Floyd statues, all of this shite. But you may have, in another part of the country, their local MP will deliver on that and he’ll be held accountable by them to do that. Because, remember, this is supposed to be the system that we actually live under representative democracy. So if you imagine, then you’ve got somewhere typically in British politics, Yorkshire is like reactionary. Yorkshire tends to veer to the Right a lot of the time. And so you may well find that there’s somewhere in Yorkshire who wants to have no more asylum centres, no more immigrants. They don’t want to see any more of the war crop. They don’t want to see any more rainbow flags and all of this shite. So their PM, their MP, is then held accountable by this. And imagine if you could have.

Woes: A.

Morgoth: System where you can then log on to the party who did this, and you log on to their website and you can see, as if it was based on Uber or something. You can see which politicians in the country are liars and which have actually done what they’re supposed to do. So what you’re talking about here is a decentralization of how we do politics in Britain. This may well be possible. I’ll leave it at that. I’m aware of an organization. I’m aware of something happening. It’s not all doom and gloom, but we will see. That could be a thing. That could be a thing.

Woes: One other thing that someone said about referendums is it depends, because I said it’s much less corruptible than party politics. And someone said, it depends who counts the votes. And this, unfortunately, gets to a very passionate issue about The Times we’re living. Would you trust any referendum or any election after America in 2020?

Morgoth: Yes. I think our system is okay. America is a special case. Our voters and I’ve seen them counting in our case, and it is like Jenny and Paul from down the road. They’re not political. They’re just putting it in the box. I don’t have a problem with our electoral system. The Americans. That’s their problem. Just in terms of how votes are counted here, it seems okay, except for the rotten boroughs in certain parts of London and whatnot, by and large, we’re okay with that. But this doesn’t account for the population itself being brainwashed. But the system that I was outlined before, of course, wouldn’t be ideological. The ideology would just be the consensus of the local area. So this is happening. It’s not all doom and gloom. All right, I’m going to leave you with a little bit of hope. But what I will say is beggars can’t be choosers. So we’ll bear that in mind as we go forward. But let’s just move on.

Woes: Okay. Dabi said the andor Leftist movie reviews remind me of Morgoth. What happened to youthful rebellion video andor yeah, absolutely.

Morgoth: Because we always have to place themselves in the rule of the pluto rebels fighting against the evil empire, even when literally Disney produced this. Disney, a multibillion dollar corporation of brainwashing and narrative control, produced a series about Marxist rebellion and living under a tyrannical regime, which was realist and decent enough and the Lefties are like, oh, God. This is literally life under fascism. And I’m thinking, no, fuck you. This is life under you are the empire. You are the bureaucrats that make people’s lives hell. You’re not these idealistic rebels. You are these dead, souled, horrible managerial civil servants who everybody dreads.

Woes: Yeah, I agree. All right. Fred Adel, chair, says, I often wonder how a man like Morgoth ended up working in factories when he really would be much better suited to teaching the classic literature or something else highbrow. Much like black pilled. He can make the banal seem interesting. And I could listen to him rambling for hours.

Morgoth: Well, I don’t know. I’m not that well schooled on classic literature, to be honest. I’ve read a lot more Victorian novels. I don’t know what you mean by classical. Assume it’s the Greeks. I haven’t read much of that. I’ve read a fair few of the old Victorian novels. I began reading because when I worked in a factory, I crushed me one of my fingers. And it did just, like, kind of splatted. And I was off work for weeks and weeks and weeks. And as I mentioned earlier, my grandfather, I was an influence, and he was very knowledgeable. And I was off work with not much to do. I didn’t want to watch daytime television, so there was books lying around the house. And it began with Treasure Island, I remember, and I really enjoyed it. I would have been, like, in the late teens. And then I discovered Charles Dickens The Pick with papers, which I just thought was wonderful. It was just such good fun. It was Dickens first novel. And then I moved on because there’s a connection between the this is where things get deep. Because I realized when I read the blurb at the front of the introduction that there’s The Pickwick Papers which is the story of Mr. Pickwick having adventures in Victorian England early Victorian England, actually. And then it’s connected and discovered to Don Quixote, which which is an even older novel. Don Quixote is like sort of in the 15 hundreds. And then you get this the idea of Don Quixote is that you get this knight, this Spanish well, he’s a Spanish sort of petty landlord. He’s nothing special, but he is sort of enchanted by the ideas of chivalry and being a knight. And he wants to go out into the world. And he has this idea of a princess. It’s famous because of the windmills that he wants to fight. He thinks they’re dragons. Actually, when you look back at Don Quirodi, it has this kind of magical aura to it. Cervantes, who wrote it, actually fought in the sort of reconquisto of Spain, I think it was. But there’s something a little bit more sinister to Don quoted because what it’s doing is deconstructing romanticism. It’s deconstructing the age of chivalry. And so you get Sensual Pandas as the sidekick. And in it, there are scenes where, like, say, Don Quixote, he is on his horse, waxing lyrical about these high chivalry ideas. And it’s explicit that Sanctuary Panza is taking a big shit and it stinks and it wafts in the dolky with these kind of nostrils. This is all like, what, 4500 years old. What they’re doing is kind of postmodern because they’re already so many centuries ago. There’s already a kind of embryonic form of deconstructing. The idealism of what went before, don quotes. On the one hand, it’s wonderful. On the other hand, it’s deeply subversive. But when you get another novel, the third one, which is connected to this sort of weird trilogy and all of it, the theme is the good man. A good man in a bad world. And the third one, which really blew me away was Doskievsky’s the Idiot. And then it was just raw realism. Then it wasn’t the Whimsy of Don Quiori or Dickens, all the gentle kind of romanticism of Dickens and the Peculiar Papers, the Idiot of Doskievsky. Then you have somebody Prince I forgot his name, Alishkin or something. He comes back from being in a nuthouse in Switzerland, basically. And he’s dropped into the sort of Machiavellian intrigues of Russia and the new ability. And he’s this pure spirit and everybody’s corrupted. So you see that pattern again and again and again. And those three books were really sort of influential. And then I read Crime and Punishment by Doskarvsky, which is similar. And it’s where you have Raskolmakov endeavour. I did a great video on this, by the way, recently, and Raskolnikov adopts the frame of the utilitarian where you’ve got the very old. I think she’s jewish as well. And I think she’s a pawn broker and she’s the landlord of the flat. And Raskolnikov sort of runs this through that for the greater good. Which touches on the sort of running theme of the topic tonight. For the greater good of humanity. It would be better for humanity if he just killed this old hag of a pawnbroker. And he’s correct, actually. This is the thing. His argument is kind of correct that she is a parasite, she is horrible, she is greedy, she doesn’t care about anybody else. And so from a purely utilitarian perspective, it makes sense just to kind of murder the woman. And he does it in the novel, he does it. But he has to live with the consequences. He has to live with the guilt. And it’s straight away, like I say, it’s this scene we’ve touched on. Life isn’t as simple as a spreadsheet. It’s more complicated than that.

Woes: Yeah, obviously, this is a huge thing. We could talk about that. We could talk about the classics hours of conversation there. But I’m aware of the time. Incidentally, this is already the longest ever millennial stream we’ve been going for 5 hours, 20 minutes. But we will try to rush through these questions. Okay. Red Line says I’m sure at least one person in that bar, the pub that you’re telling people about I’m sure at least one person in there agreed with Morgoth. We have to normalize truth and we have to dare to be the first to speak truth. Within reason. Yes. In different situations, it is possible to speak the truth.

Morgoth: There would have definitely been somebody sitting there who thought, he’s right and these other people are scum. But the authority favoured the scum in that particular instance.

Woes: Yeah. Okay. Based Pagan says cracking good stream, lads, as always. What do you think is responsible for the massive decline in fertility throughout Western Europe and Japan? Sperm counts have halved since 73 and we have all noticed the huge increase of effeminate males and gays about these days. Is it by design? I wouldn’t be surprised. I mean, I don’t know how maybe fluoride in the water. I don’t know. Plastics, microplastics. I don’t know. It might be not. It might be have a very practical cause like that and yet not be by on purpose. It might not be by design. Or it could be by design.

Morgoth: Yeah.

Woes: I mean, it’s highly different. I don’t know.

Morgoth: It turns out that a lot of just nylon and plastics and everything damaged sperm counts and fertility in women. So I don’t think it’s by design. I think that’s just that it gets back to efficiency. I think if they can produce these products and mass they weren’t thinking that it would have any effect. Now, there’s other agendas which are specifically designed to reduce. In my view. If you look at the trans agenda people see that as being sort of a bit cringe and a bit kind of well, it’s this cookie out there thing. I actually just load that in with the more general White Genocide project. Because what you’re doing is there are places now in America where it’s like 30% of the schoolchildren are now registering as being transsexual or whatever. So even if they don’t go through, they don’t go through with the surgery, they don’t go on with the block. As what you’re seeing is this kind of disruption of the natural binary male female thing that’s happening regardless. So we can say that some of it is top down is what I’m getting at, and that’s top down. But when you bring in countries like not South Korea or Japan, the thing that they’ve all got in common is high technology. I think when you ask yourself, take it back to the most basic level. What is it that technology actually does? What is its function? What is its purpose? What technology does is make things easier. And we’ve been making things easier for a long, long time. Now. I know this sounds all a bit kind of old fashioned and whatnot, but let’s just say you lived 500 years ago. You’ve got your little house, you chopped down your own lumber. You’re out in the field doing heavy graft for 48 hours a day, or you’re a blacksmith. Whatever it is, you work hard. Physical labour. When you come home of an evening, who is going to be the most virile? That man or the man who has spent his last five years behind the checkout in the supermarket scanning barcodes for that ship? It’s both. Just how we live. Just that we live in a world which has been made too easy, which masculates men. But at the same time, there’s also just the poisons and the toxins that are sleeping into our systems because of all of the plastic and all of the junk.

Woes: Yeah, I think another cause might be culture, that it rewards low that behaviour. It even rewards low that attitudes. So I don’t know. But I suspect that there’s something in that. I suspect that does have a physiological effect eventually. Basically, masculinity is just not rewarded. Then also, things that would increase their social competition, for example. Well, nowadays you compete to be the most to be less masculine, if anything. But I think boys in school especially are discouraged from things that probably would have increased their testosterone in generations past. I just wouldn’t be surprised if there are cultural factors in this that eventually have a physiological effect. That’s all I’ll say about that. And I’m certainly not an expert. I just find it plausible. Okay. Tulther says, best millennial ever. Some great guests. Thank you very much. There could have been room for some more and old and new guests. Leather Apron Club, the German Pointer, American Crogan Endeavor. Some of them have already appeared previously. Keep asking for the support. These podcasts are entertaining and important. Well, thank you very much. People can find the link to donate it’s in the description and the video description. We’d appreciate that very much. Super chats. I should have said this at the start of every stream, but I didn’t want to waste people’s time. They can be sent by entropy or the Orthodoxy hyperchats or my own Telegram bot, but anyway, it’s a bit late in the day for that now, so I will get through these others. Empty Vessel says double think is a real thing. That was when we were at the start. We’re talking about that baron of Darth Sonian. Does Woze read this chat or do people send money via entropy? Both. Thank you. Judy says Happy New Year. Thank you. Happy New Year, Judy. Charlie says have this. Thank you, orthodoxy. We’ve done that one. That one. Okay. I think we’ve got through most of these. Oh, Darcinian says I’m going to sit back now, sipping my cozy Johnny Walker. I’ve been waiting for this stream for weeks. Mary yule tide. And Happy New Year to Colin and Morgue. Well, thank you very much and that’s a very generous donation you’ve made there, so that’s much appreciated and I hope you’ve enjoyed the stream. Lady of shalot says many modern men are the products of feminism, bad parenting and government schooling. I got involved in helping a victim of the rape gangs when I lived in Yorkshire. I was horrified to find those with the least empathy were often White English men. They have no in group preference whatsoever. Well, this is a depressing point, but I think it again, I find this plausible. Morgoth, what would you say about this?

Morgoth: Yeah, I remember there was somebody that became a bit of a meme, but what was he called? Joe. Joe something. Joe Owens? Yes. And on YouTube. And he was a good guy. He was one of us. But he was warning his point on the grooming gang issue. And he said this repeatedly across videos. And I know that people have like a kind of he became a meme and people like him and whatnot, but he did say repeatedly that at the end of the day, these girls are just White trash and nobody cares about them. And I just don’t accept that at all. I feel that I don’t get to pick and choose which of my people I want to speak out for and which that I don’t is a girl in Rotherham. Because I think that’s what really who I know she’s a lovely person. That’s where that’s coming from. It’s this idea that the English girls it’s also not actually true entirely, but I get it. It’s like they are underclass, they are from broken homes, but look, they are still even the broken homes, even the idea that their families fell apart and they are just wandering the streets to be picked up and prayed upon.

Woes: Awful. This is disgusting. Sorry to interrupt. I know you’re in the middle of something there, but this idea that, well, they’re underclass, so they’re in our ethnic group, but they’re underclass, so who cares? I find that fucking disgusting.

Morgoth: You won’t get traction if you are going to advance native interests. These girls were White trash. Even the language is wrong. Even the language comes from America. We don’t have White trash in Britain. We have an underclass. We have charged we’ve got our problems with certain parts of the working class White population. That’s true. We don’t call them White trash, and we fucking certainly don’t call the victims of rape gangs White trash.

Woes: Absolutely not.

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Morgoth: And even even the fact that their families have been dissolved. There’s all of these problems. Maybe it’s a single mother household. They can’t keep ahold of them. They can’t control them. They’re wandering that, you know, you’ve got 15 year old girls wandering these gloomy streets of post industrial England, and they’re being picked up and they’re being abused horribly. I don’t accept that they says, well, certain group of people we can write a fuck that. No, it doesn’t work like that it’s the same sort of thing with the vaccine. The vaccine thing as well. No, the lib Todd took the facts. These are all our group. And what you have to do is stand above it and judge the entire system and all of the little cogs and all the constituent parts which brought this shit show upon us. I absolutely don’t accept that we can conveniently say because the rationale behind it was that this isn’t a vote winner. You won’t win votes because, well, people see them as just being trashy young girls.

Woes: Well, see, that the only reason that’s not a vote winner is 50 years of indoctrination. You know, if you’d said to the British public in 1920, these foreigners are raping our women, our girls, what should we do? I mean, do you want to vote in a party that would that would deport these foreigners who are there is no question that the British public would say, absolutely, you’ve got my vote. Do it. The only reason there’s not a fucking vote winner now is that we’ve been so thoroughly subverted, it should be a fucking vote winner.

Morgoth: I took so much shit for standing against the vaccine, and it was the exact same principles as what I’ve always spoken out about the grooming gangs. I’ve always spoken out about that. And it was the same core principle. Why I spoke out against the vaccine was because I want to defend my own people, my own group from harm, from elsewhere. And I’m sorry if that doesn’t accord with your ideology of being authority or that it’s some kind of distraction about talking about jews. Well, I’m not sorry. Fuck that it’s a core principle to say, I defend my people. I’ll defend them when it’s the grooming gangs. I’ll defend working class girls when they’re charged. And I’ll look into why are they actually wandering the streets in the middle of the night at 15 year old? What is the social circumstances which brought that about? Is it in the EU liberal system? And I’ll absolutely not throw them under the bus. In the same way, when the government decides to pump my people full of fucking shite with these injections, I’m not going to abandon them then either. And I resent the fuck out of the fact that I was cast as some kind of conspiracy theorist for upholding a core value of what we stand for. I really do.

Woes: Yeah, I can tell. And I feel the same way. I mean, if you’re not going to stand up for your people when they’re being threatened, when they’re being harmed, then what the fuck are you doing?

Morgoth: Because it’s inconvenient, because it’s distracting. What the fuck is this? What do we stand for if not for the protection of our people?

Woes: Yeah, I agree. One other point I would make about this matter, the grooming gangs, the girls are Chabs, a lot of them. First of all, as you said, it’s not actually all of them who are underclass that’s come to light more recently, but also even if they were all the underclass. Well, so far, first of all, there’s the ethnic loyalty thing. They’re my group. I’m going to feel, and I do feel some connection to them, even though I probably have fuck all in common with them. They’re probably very different people from me. They’re still my kind. They’re still my ethnic group. So I’m going to feel attached to them. I’m going to feel responsible for them. That’s the most natural fucking thing in the world that’s on an individual level, on a collective level, it’s still sensible to care about this because, okay, so this foreign ethnic group is harming your ethnic group, but it’s only harming this one section. Well, then but that’s the means by which it begins to corrode your entire ethnic group. First it colonizes that class, then it will move up in the social ladder. And that’s exactly what has happened. As we now know, there are middle class girls getting victimized by this. So you thought that writing them off as Chavez would somehow save you? Well, it doesn’t in the end. And actually, a similar principle is involved with this idea that, well, we should just deport the refugees to France, let French a deal with it, fuck off, because then that just keeps them in Europe. And then you get into this ridiculous situation where different White peoples are.

Morgoth: Sort.

Woes: Of trading this as like the musical chairs, where you’re going to be the one who ends up with the refugees. Ha. Fucking hell. I mean, this is ridiculous. What I hate about petty nationalism so we’re going to end up with these vast numbers of people in our continent, in our midst, in our gene pool, but at least it’s the French, or at least it’s the Germans, you fucking retard.

Morgoth: Yeah.

Woes: All right, I’ll calm down and move to the next question. It’s so disgusting. Hold on a second. All right, let’s see. Sorry, I’m going to have to find my place again. Sorry about this. Okay, I might as well play the thing again while people wait. It’ll be about a minute. It’s a difficult thing to do, actually, to make people aware of all of the information that they could be aware of to do with millennial. For example, the NFT people might not know that there is an NFT this year. There was an NFT last year, and I thought, okay, this could become a regular thing, because at that time, NFTs could just become a thing and they were selling for a lot of money. So I thought it’s worth getting it all this work into trying to make it something pleasant and nice. Because I do like the idea that there’s this commemoration, there’s this thing that somebody can own, and it is the NMC of millennial that year, and it’s only one of this sort of undulating same glass animation similar to last year. And it works the same way. You can hover the mouse over it, react. I just think there’s something special about it. The NFT is unique. Only one person can own it. And I think that’s nice.

So that’s why I do it. Is Morgoth back yet? I don’t know if he is. Oh, I don’t think he is. Well, I’ll just find my place in this list of superchance and all right, I’m back now. Oh, hi. Hi. How are you doing?

Morgoth: I was just thinking that NFT advert is going to be sort of that’ll become known as the Morgoth pissed up.

Woes: Well, there are worse ways that could be remembered. All right, let’s see. God almighty, there have been so many. Okay, here’s one. I think I’ve found the place. Lady of shallot asked, has Morgoth ever thought of reviewing the classic 90s drama series our Friends in the north? I remember that it has recently been made available again on the BBC iplayer as part of their anniversary. I watched it back in the rewatched it again recently. I’d love Morgoth taking the series. Many thanks.

Morgoth: Yeah, I get this a lot. Yeah, it’s one of those things that I always want to do. I did do like, a 20 minutes video on Whatever Happened to the lately lads, and again, it’s one of those things that I’m quite proud of, which you can find on the archive on YouTube. But the problem with Our Friends in the north is like, it’s 10 hours, and I’ve never approached anything of that scale before. I don’t know. It’s one thing if you look at Whatever Happened to the Lakeviews, or I could do, say, get Carter or VDC and Pet, that would be one thing. But Our Friends in the north take multiple characters across three decades from the 1960s to the 1990s, and it encompasses not just the Northeast. If you follow Daniel Creek’s character, his whole arc is, like, down in London and becoming a kind of Gangstand and being involved in the underground and the nightclub scene, and you’ve got the politics of the high rises going up in the northeast and there’s so much to it that I’ve kind of been intimidated just by the scale of the project. Another problem with really big projects is.

Woes: That.

Morgoth: What happens is if you’re a content creator, I produce a lot of content, but there’s a kind of, say, a thousand word article and I’ll turn it into a video or whatnot. But if you’re actually going to sort of get into something which is really massive, you’re really busy on the back end, but let’s say on the front end, which is, say, what people want to see the audience, it looks as if you’ve just disappeared for, like, three weeks and say, well, what’s he doing? What’s going on here? Is there any content coming? And there’s a fine line. It’s that difficult. It’s a very fine line to get that right. So if I was to embark on our friends in the north, it would probably have to be I would do video. I’ve already tested that. The actual footage I can get away with using on YouTube, like I did with the likely large video. I can use actual footage and it doesn’t get picked up for copyright. I’ve done my test, but just the scale of the project would be massive, and it would mean that I’ve kind of been quiet for a while. For one project, one thing that you.

Woes: Could do is approach it as a quick 15 minutes video about each episode.

Morgoth: Yeah, that’s true as. Well, I mean, I’ve already got alluded to it from Tablet Tame, but I already actually do have a very big project that I’m working on behind the scenes, which I’ll load with, but I don’t get into details because I don’t want the pressure of actually revealing what it is. But, yeah, there’s things going on behind the scenes in terms of projects and stuff.

Woes: Yeah. Okay. Defiant Irishman says Morgoth is the man with the two of you ever consider doing a Collins show in the future? I’ve never done that. Well, I did the Hangouts back in the day. They can be very chaotic, and there’s no way to well, as far as I know, there’s no way to vet someone before they come on. You could get someone who just comes on and splatters fucking nuts, insane stuff. I don’t know. It’s a risky thing to venture into. Morgoth, what do you think?

Morgoth: I’m not a big live streamer, so if that kind of thing was to happen, I would kind of just let wars deal with all of this. Kind of its weird because when you look at my content, this is obviously a giant extra super sized live stream tonight. But in the course of my normal content, I don’t do very many live streams. I’m not a big live streamer. I pop up here and there on other people’s. But I do my classic movies with Endeavor. But by and large, it’s not my thing. I tend not to like it. I tend not like spontaneity. Even my YouTube videos are scripted and thought out. And even if it’s an off the cuff thing, they’ll tend to be like some bullet points of what I want to say. That’s my preferred kind of content. It’s not that often that I actually just freewheel it. So if that kind of thing was to happen, I would pass over the managerialism entirely. The wars.

Woes: Okay, all right. Orthodoxy says what’s? Morgoth’s favourite pub grub and paint.

Morgoth: I tend to just like the fish and chips, to be honest. I mentioned earlier when I was talking about the Lefty, I do have a weakness for Leo and I’m very well aware of the pretentiousness to it. But I do like it. It does taste nice. This is the problem. You can laugh at hipster. They’ve got these ridiculous real ales, but they are nice. They are really nice to drink.

Woes: I’ve said this myself about hipster stuff like hipster food, for example. It’s bloody good food. I’m sorry, it just is. And I also like the decor in a lot of places. I remember when I was doing a lot of traveling in Europe, 20, 17, 18, you’d go to these platelet bars and cafes. It was really nice in Amsterdam and that kind of thing. And they really put a lot of effort in. Yes, as much as you can say it’s middle class, pretentiousness and indulgence and whatever. And they’re stupid liberals. Well, of course they are, but they’re doing what White people always do and they’re being innovative and they’re caring about things, especially the women. They put a lot of effort into making a place nice and it’s like, well, why not enjoy that? To some extent, hipsters get a bad rap because, yes, they’re a bunch of wankers and yes, they’re liberals, but in a sense I just see them doing what White people do and doing it really well.

So I think it’s kind of a shame.

Morgoth: Some of its ridiculous where you get stouts and there’s like marshmallow in because it has special head on items. You’ve got like a basic kind of nutty real ill ruby, real ill. Which you drink it and you just think, my God, that’s a good beer. That’s one hell of a good beer. But yeah, the problem is you get all the wank that comes along with it.

Woes: What occurs to me is that if we do enter a period of economic stagnation and people are struggling and all that, the hipster is going to be a thing of the past. I mean, you’re just not going to be able to sustain that it’s a culture that’s very much built upon luxury. There is not going to be the hipster. There’s no place for the hipster in grim, dark nationalism, as you once said.

Morgoth: Yeah, that’s true, but I’ve brewed my own beer. One of the reasons why well, yeah.

Woes: You could have home brewing stuff, but then it’s not going to be hipster. It’s not going to be that sort of middle class genteel thing. It’s fashioned.

Morgoth: You’d be surprised that a lot of the real that you see in these kind of pretentious places, they come from micro breweries, and there’s really not much difference between a micro brewery and real brewing it at home. I’ve made batch after batch at home, not with the actual raw ingredients. I use the tin, but I brewed it in a bin and they all got into it from doing that. It isn’t that much of a leap. The only difference is that they use the wrong gradients. And then what they did was to kind of funny about a bit with what goes with what even. I made the Tom Claxton basic relief and I put in ana seed. I also made keg after keg of stout, and I would put in licorice just so it offset the bitterness a little bit. And that’s all they’ve done, really. It’s a bit more sophisticated. But let’s get on because this is a booking six hour stream here.

Woes: Okay, universal sent in this one. Merry Christmas. WOZN, Morgoth. You are the two comfortable content creators on Earth, in my opinion. And I loved the epic Christmas Carol in your latest video. Morgoth, my question for you both is why do you think New York, London and Israel had the most extreme lockdowns and vaccine mandates, given who lives there? New York, London and Israel. And that in New York and Melbourne, the globalist community was directly named and targeted for not following the Covid measures? On a lighter note, would you rather give up paint or rewatching first blood for the rest of your life? Happy yell tie to you all and a good night. Well, thank you very much, Universal. So, first of all, would you rather give up paints or rewatching first blood? Crystal, maybe?

Morgoth: Well, I’ll give up paints and switch to whiskey or wine or something, and then at least still watch I’ll cheat and still watch this blood.

Woes: Okay, all right. And then the other one is, why do you think New York, London and Israel had the most extreme lockdowns and vaccine mandates? And when that community was named for not following the covered measures in New York and Melbourne, I don’t think I morgoth: Wasn’T aware that New York, London, Israel had the most extreme lockdowns, to be honest. Certainly not compared to places well, New York might have done. New York was pretty extreme. But then was it more extreme than Los Angeles? Canada was extreme.

Woes: Australia, Austria, Germany.

Morgoth: Really, I was absolutely insane in terms. Of just how draconian the lockdowns were. Britain in general as well as London, it wasn’t that extreme, but there were more extreme places.

Woes: Oh yeah.

Morgoth: To be fair, New York did seem to be quite draconian, but it isn’t that bad. Israel did seem to be have quite some severe lockdowns and they were also mad on the backs.

Woes: Yeah. Weren’t they the first country that suggested the fourth like a second booster?

Morgoth: Yeah. This opens up a whole other kind of worms, to be honest.

Woes: Oh God, that’s not but I think the guy has answered his own question that that group made a floated rules and thus made it from the point of view of the authority, has made it essential to introduce mandates.

Morgoth: Yeah, I understand where he’s going there. Israel was draconian. The real question I suppose is why was Israel more draconian than everywhere? But I’m not even sure if that’s the case either because Australia, I mean, lady of Sherlock can testify, was the most insane of anywhere. These kind of discrepancies, they pop up because you’re looking for kind of an outlier, as if that group is somehow getting overly influential or conversely, getting special treatment. But what if they are just in the grid along with the rest of us? And I don’t mean the elites of them, I don’t mean the big hitters, I don’t mean the Deep State, I mean the mass of that people themselves. Because when you actually dig into the history of the technocracy, there is a problem. And then the problem is an AA alluded to this as well is exceptionalism or universalism. Now, we are used to thinking of things in terms of sort of well, they are enforcing universalism on us. What happens if we are actually the universalists and they want exceptional sort of special dispensations? Well, if you then look at a certain if you look at the World Health Organization, do they then give special treatment to people? If the World Health Organization and it’s doing this, by the way, it’s kind of bringing all of these treaties in and it’s trying to formalize where the World Health Organization can just declare a global pandemic, or a local pandemic. And then because the treaties have been saying the power is now in the hands of World Health Organization, they can say, well, okay, this particular part of the world is now on lockdown and everybody has to be vaccinated within 60 days. That’s the policy. And the local government, wherever it happens to be, has no say in this. Nothing. So under that system, where is the special dispensation of that group? Can they get out of that?

Woes: Yeah, I mean their own ideology or their own creed has swallowed them up at that point. They’re involved in it as well. There’s no way for them to get out. This is the thing. It also relates to their rates of marrying out as well because they have been preaching a lot of their leading voices have been preaching that everyone should marry out and race mix and whatever. Then how can they stop that happening to the Romeo? I mean, eventually it will become quite difficult. All right, let’s move on. This is orthodoxy. Does Morgoth endorse? Pox populized thought that nationalists should get behind religional and marginal nations Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, Catalonia, et cetera, in the hope that they could become base holdouts against global homo.

Morgoth: Yeah, I do in theory. But in practice what you see is that Scotland is more global homo than England.

Woes: Yes.

Morgoth: So in practice what happens is that the small nations like that just become clients of power.

Woes: Exactly. Global home gets there first. That’s the thing. It gets there first, takes them over because they’re easy. I mean, look at Ireland. It’s fucked in the space of 1020 years.

Morgoth: So in theory, yes, I absolutely do in practice from some of the realist perspective is that when you are a small power, a larger power in this case in regards to Scotland or Ireland, it will be the European Union and then behind that you go back to American Deep State. But in theory, yes, absolutely, that is just localism. Absolutely. But in practice what it means is that you will go cap in hand to the next big power and you also run into problems just in terms of logistics and where your food is coming from and this kind of thing. So once again, the localist argument is valid and it’s sound, but you have to accept that there will be costs, that you will no longer get all of the goodies anymore, which Neoliberalism has to provide. If you look at Northern Ireland, how many lambs, how much actual produce, does Northern Ireland can itself sustain itself? Now in that particular case, quite well, actually. Whether these provinces and the Catalan can and these little breakaway places may well be that all you end up with is wine in this situation if you’re going to go all the way on this. But what I’m saying is that’s actually okay, especially when you’ve got sea, you’ve got seafood and yeah, I’m for that, but I’m very conscious of the fact that so many of these tiny little statelets will just end up being like little pincers, like little kind of claws of global humour. All of power, basically.

Woes: Yes, definitely. Base Pagan says bet I’d have left field Morgoth, but being an avid viewer of fellow Jordy, the Jolly Weaver, I was curious as to whether you have ever seen a ghost or other auditing.

Morgoth: No, I haven’t. I’ve been spooked a few times, but no, basically I’ve never seen anything supernatural. I could kind of go off on a tangent of about as I can on pretty much everything, but it’s like 6 hours into the stream and I’m.

Woes: Just okay, all right. Pebble in the pond. Generous the nation. Thank you very much. Wonderful millennial lineup. I am so happy I was able to catch Morgoth’s appearance live. Happy you and New Year to you both. Well, thank you very much. Pebble in the pond. That’s much appreciated. Okay. Kulu says, do you think the recent economic collapse in Europe will be helpful in slowing these nefarious plans, as they may need more support even from us, to keep it all together? Well, this is kind of related to the idea that they’re importing the Africans in order to be a police force. I think they’ve already got the infrastructure they need. I don’t think they need support from the Africans. I don’t think they need support from us. I think at least they feel that they can sustain this indefinitely, especially with the surveillance technology that we were talking about earlier. Morgoth, do you want to comment on that?

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Morgoth: I don’t really understand the Africans are.

Woes: Going to no, I brought that into it. The question is, do you think the recent economic collapse in Europe will be helpful in slowing these nefarious plans, as they may need more support even from us, to keep it all together?

Morgoth: No, I don’t because they’ve already got the opening call of the grey reset. So the idea is that we transition. And this is a word that you hear a lot these days. Another one of the words, those words is transition. We transition into just a different kind of society. So whether or not it’s because Putin invades Ukraine, or whether or not it’s because climate change agenda and all of the rest of it, the future has already been marked out. They know where we are going. It’s not like they are uncertain and it’s not like the division of the future is kind of a surprise. Oh no, look at this. The civilization has hit these hard rocks and now we’re going to have to like rejig everything. No, that’s already being mapped out. That’s solid. They know what’s coming. They’ve already built in. It’s already baked into the cake what things will be like in the future. The question is a fundamental one, and it’s that we reject the entire premise of this vision. The difficult part is that when you go back because what it is is the utilitarianism, this technocracy, and it’s what is the alternative vision to that? And the alternative vision to that has to be something which is again, you have to go back to sort of localism because at the end of the day, you have to say, well, we want to live an authentic life. We want you away from us. It’s a reactionary frame. But beyond that you get help from people like C. S. Lewis, who instead of the mathematical spreadsheet calculation had on the world. And this actually leads you back to a more religious view, metaphysical view of the world is that the world and the people in it have value in and of themselves and that there’s an intrinsic beauty of things which we don’t have to explain, we can’t experience. It is what it is. And to be fair, it is also universalist. But it is absolutely not this kind of dry utilitarianism what they haven’t made.

Woes: Yeah, okay. Lady of Shallot, the online harms Bill will further extend the reach of the state as it will force yet more self censorship. The Bill is being pushed by the dad of Molly Russell, a girl who killed herself after online abuse. Her father is deflecting his own guilt. He gave a child a smartphone, a recipe for disaster. Well, the online harmsville has been brought in under the pretence of protecting children from online abuse, but that’s the least of it. I mean, it’s clearly another instrument by which they will reduce the freedom of speech of the general public. Protecting children I think is I don’t think they really give a shit. I mean, look at again, just look at Rotherham for fuck’s sake.

Morgoth: Yeah, I don’t believe that for a second. I think what happened to that girl seems to be horrible. I don’t want to take that away from the family but they are being used by the system in the same way. Just oil or what’s the other one? Extinction, revolution or rebellion? All of these what’s happened is a legitimate problem has been astrotiffed in order to push through what power wants. And what power wants is the ability to sense for things like this stream. And what they’re going to do in reality is fear that Odyssey is a problem because it hosts conversations like this and this is sort of against this and that and that and the other protocol of the online harmless bill. What we have spoken about tonight is an online harm and so honestly has to stump up and give I think it’s a 10% of its revenue for the year to the British government. Or it censors like this conversation. That’s what it’s about.

Woes: Yeah, there’s fucking grotesque. Anyway, you can imagine what we would both say about that if we were to continue the rant. So I’ll just move forward to the next one. Henchwood says to all the people asking but what can we do if you can’t cancel your TV licence, you’re part of the problem. That’s a definite. Well, I don’t want to encourage any illegal behaviour certainly, but if you don’t have a TV and if they can’t prove you whatever, then you don’t need to pay your TV licence. I mean it’s very again, I’m certainly not encouraging anyone to break the law, but the TV licensing vans, the detector vans and all that, it’s all bullshit.

Morgoth: Yeah, that’s all shit. I got took the court years ago at my worst possible time when I was already living in absolute poverty. I’ve still never paid it. I’ve still never ever paid the licence fee. Well, when I was living with a certain lady and we did then because we were settling down and we wanted everything to be neat and tidy, but since then, I just don’t pay it. And I get letters. I just immediately throw them in the bin. The only thing you’ve got to take care of is that well, to be fair, they don’t even knock on the door anymore. But they did used to. Yeah. I’ve had Or Lanes with it, but for God’s sake, don’t pay the licence fee.

Woes: Yeah. And the other thing is, just don’t have a TV. I haven’t had one for nearly six years now, I guess. And even before then, I think it wasn’t really working, the one at home. So I honestly can’t remember that it’s been a long time since I had a TV, and I don’t miss it in the slightest. So, honestly, just get rid of it. Eliminates the vulnerability, and you just don’t need it. It’s shit. It’s fucking poison. All right, Lady Of shallot. Thank you again, lady of Shalt. What does Morgoth think of Andrew Tate? 2022 was a big year for him. He has a huge following amongst young men and makes some valid points about the damage caused by feminism. I am suspicious of his recent conversion to Islam. I’m curious as to what Morgoth makes of him. Happy New Year to you all. Well, thank you very much, lady of shalot.

Morgoth: Actually, I don’t know the name popped up this year, but you see this name pop open and everybody it’s the new thing. It’s the new buzz, and I’m just not interested today. I saw the thing that happened with Greta Thunberg, and I just thought he looked like an awesome. Obviously, it goes without saying that we’ve spoken to who all night about this technocracy about Agenda 2030. I absolutely get Greta Thunberg’s position and sort of useful idiot rule in all of that, even if she doesn’t sort of understand herself. So it’s not like I’m on her side. But just when I went off looking at what happened, I thought he did look kind of look like a bit of a dick. I’ve seen other clips where he was on Piers Morgan and he was talking about Covid and things, and it seemed kind of okay. He was against the narrative, and I thought I was okay. But what I dislike is if you look up this idea, I think the idea but now muscularity has become an identity. And it wasn’t it didn’t used to be. People will be surprised at that, but it was just something that you naturally did. It was just like you were just a man and you didn’t have to think about it. You didn’t have to step outside of yourself and think about yourself from that way. And to be honest, I still don’t. But, like, what what’s happened is is that you get this kind of postmodern representation of masculinity. And and what that amounts to is the picture that I put on a Telegram, which lost me another, like, 20 followers or something. Andrew Tate is there and he’s giving his refutation of Greta Thunberg, but he’s got this, like, ridiculously big cigar. He’s wearing a dressing gown. He’s got all these sports cars. That’s not actually a masculine thing. What it is is a sort of postmodern interpretation of what Masculinity is so you enter into this kind of borderline realm of replicas. Of replicas of replicas. So what Andrew Tate is, his idea that the masculine that he’s presenting back to all these young men is sort of a copy of a James Bond villain from the 1970s because that means independence and power. But it’s purely sort of its just if you go back to borderland and you see the replica of a replica of the real. So first you start off with looking. You’ve caught a fish and it’s on the boat. And then the fish gets turned into a factory produce and it’s sort of fish chunks, a could, let’s say. And then it goes from basic could chunks and it gets processed and it becomes fish fingers. And then the fish fingers themselves become a package. And what you see is the package of the fish fingers. And then you see the logo on the logo itself will change. And eventually what you’ve got is something which no longer has anything to do with the actual could, which has been brought in by the fishermen. Instead, what you’ve got is something which is entirely a product. And what they will do is put on the label. They will have a kind of cartoon version of a fish or something. And the point there is that, okay, so you’ve got the could, which is caught, which is real, by the fisherman. The second step is the could is diced, it becomes meat chunks. And then eventually the process goes on until eventually all you’ve got is a little cardboard box with a smiley little kind of face on it. Or like the bird’s eye fisherman with his bushy beard or whatever, I think even to a woman. But, I mean, this is what sort of Andrew Tate’s version of masculinity is. It’s become a kind of product to be commodified and kind of sold back to everybody with a subscription. It’s the package with a smiley face on it rather than the actual could being landed by a fisherman, if, you know what I mean.

Woes: Yes, I do, but it’s definitely not the answer that I was expecting. Just a bizarre place to end up after asking you about Andrew Tate. But, yeah, I understand what you’re saying, and it’s a very good answer. All right, Harry asks, I’m a climate refugee. Can I get a free hotel room? It’s fucking raining all the time. Slight introduction of levity there. Thank you for that, Harry Darby. I wish more young men my age were watching Morgoth’s review instead of shit like Andrew Tate. Hope you guys had a Merry Christmas. Thanks for everything you do well, thank you very much, Darby, and I think that Morgoth will agree with you. Irish Rose gives a smiley face. And thank you very much. Very kind. Orthodoxy given Morgoth has spoken about the increasing mask of totalitarianism of our elites. Will democracy be decommissioned at some point or will it remain given that it provides a convenient facade?

Morgoth: Well, this is the problem. This is a good question. This is why I talk a lot about self at me, because I want what we have is just power. This is a good question and it’s a shame that it’s too late. But basically they’re going to try and wear that mask for as long as possible because it’s convenient, because they’re never held to account, because they have no ideology. There is not a specific set of ideals. What you have is just oligarchic power, wearing the mask of liberal democracy, but in doing anything they want. I mean, I touched on this earlier. If you got a time machine, you go back 1980, they wouldn’t have a clue what we were living in now, and yet the name is the same. If you think of Putin’s Russia and say Communist Russia, that is a bigger change than what we’ve gone through since 1980. It’s absolutely a completely different system. It’s a completely different way of life. But we call it the same thing. And they won’t own up to it because they don’t have to. Because when you lay your cards on the table and you say, well, actually okay, so this is what it’s about. We are implementing this sort of panopticon utilitarian system of race blindness where you White British just happen to be the natives on this now sort of zone of land that we want to Tara form. You’re just kind of in the way because that’s what they’re doing. Then it becomes difficult because they’ve come out and said it and so they just won’t. And so everybody just thinks we’re still living under a liberal democracy. I mean, if you look at like man of Steel when General Zod brings in the terraforming machines because they want to turn Earth into the planet Krypton, I think there’s like three of them, these giant claw kind of machines, and they just land. They just come down from the orbit and they just plough the Earth and all of a sudden they just start pummeling the Earth. They just bashing it to bits and the gravity gets shot at pieces. The ecology, everything is just being annihilated because they’re terraforming it. They’re turning into something else. That’s where we are now. That’s why it feels weird and disorienting.

Woes: Certainly is. All right, as Whitneyard says, as always, Morgoth is the finest end of level boss for this year’s millennial. Thank you to Woes for all your hard work and the guest whom you have hosted this year. Thanks also to Morgoth for doing what he does best for closing the year. Let’s hope 2023 is less gay. Well, thank you very much. Whityard. Okay. Golden AGEman LibGen rs is the best source for books. Can find almost everything on there. I also download and save locally and have paper copies of important ones. Well, this is to do with preserving things in the age when online material can simply get deleted. So, as good advice, there noticer in chief says, you’ve both been extremely helpful to all of us. Thank you. Especially given the added pressures we’ve faced in recent times. Thank you both. That’s a nice comment. Then Irish nationalist media says, thank you both for everything you have done. Our movement has grown and matured so much in the past eight years. We have had bad moments, like the beginning of censorship and Hate Speech laws, but this was a desperate response to our rise, and it is desperation and will not stop us. We will not be replaced. I fucking dearly hope that you’re right, and thank you for the encouraging comments there. Irish nationalist media. All right. Defiant Irishman. Listening to me and my boss talk about the Roma gypsies who moved into our town must be like listening to an episode of TDs. I can believe you. The Irish are surprisingly open and forthright about immigration, but diversity, but especially about the Roma gypsies. It’s a weird thing where the Roman gypsies seem to be the one group that everyone is openly allowed to hate. It’s a strange thing. I don’t really I’m guessing that will be clamped down on, but at the same time, it doesn’t really matter, does it? Because they’re not part of the program, really. All right, Dharma initiate question for Morgoth and Woes. Is there anything you’re looking forward to seeing in the new year? I’m looking forward to summer. I never used to like summer, but I do know I really like the second half of the year from the height of summer. I don’t like spring, but I like the other seasons from the height of the summer to Autumn and then to the darkness of winter. I really like that. So I’m looking forward to that. In the meantime, I’m looking forward to returning to creative writing because I find that very rewarding and a lease of new life for me this year. When I started that, I’ve not done it at all for the last six months. First because I was working on the Gram, then because I was working on Millennial for the last three months. So I’m really looking forward to returning to that. Margolf, is there anything you’re looking forward to in 2023?

Morgoth: Yeah, it’s quite a bit. I mean, I’ve got some personal things which I won’t get into, which I’m happy about and the way things are going, but even just more basic. You said, I’m looking for a summer. That’s nice. Yeah, I’m looking for a spring we already passed. It was on the 22nd. The nights are already getting later again, like right now. So when you think about it.

Woes: That’s.

Morgoth: Actually a good thing. We used to be disconnected entirely. Alistad used to be completely oblivious to these kinds of things, but I do notice them now. And it’s another thing that I write about quite a bit on the substac. I did sort of a recent article about just winter, about the symbolism of winter from the civilizational perspective, but how that kind of intersects with winter itself, where time freezes you’re at the end of a cycle. And when you are at the end of a cycle, it’s related to what we were talking about earlier of the centrist Caesarism where politics has died. There’s no new roots being born anymore. You are in this kind of frost covered, cultivated landscape. It’s funny because I wrote that when it was like literally snow on the ground and frozen, and it didn’t take long until we just went back to being dumped and cooled again. But whatever, the point is well made and it’s already getting late again and I’m looking forward to go fishing, which is what I want to do. I just enjoy being outdoors and I’ve got some projects which I’m working on behind the scenes, which I really want to get finished this year. So, yeah, there’s lots of good stuff. And for the Diehard sort of Morga fans, henry Cavill is going to be in a War Hummer movie.

So that’s going to be something to talk about as well. For the nerd escapism, because it’s weird, because the people who like my content and what I can do, they do get this kind of whiplash effect where it’s like, on the one hand, I’m going to do a sort of deep dive into the technography centrist Caesarism and the winter of civilization, but then it would be like, oh, look at this. I’m going to do, like, let’s do a video on Warhammer. But it does actually all kind of mop up. I think War Humbling is good symbolism for chaos. Chaos is the evil. We hate chaos.

Woes: Yes, we certainly do. Okay. Privileged lord asks have was or Margot read the aura. Linda book. Well, no, I haven’t, Morgoth.

Morgoth: No, I don’t know what it is.

Woes: Okay, sorry about that. And it was mentioned in an earlier stream, but I forgot which one it was. It wasn’t the bizarre guys, but it was something related to that. I think it was the Tour stillmag stream.

Morgoth: I am aware of the tortill, Mike. I’ve spoken to him in private and I’ve read some of his essays as well. So maybe I have, I don’t know.

Woes: Okay. Sorry. Privilege. Shit. Lord, we can’t give a more decisive answer. Orthodoxy. What did Woznborglas think of the film Silent Green, given it was a 70s film which reflects the disillusionment of 60s fetish for technology? Well, I actually haven’t seen it unbelievably enough.

Morgoth: Well, I have seen it, and if you go on my own device channel you will discover that we spoke about it for a few hours for a classic movie stream. So I’ve already uncovered Soylent Green in depth on a live stream. I think it’s on endeavours channel. But, yeah, we were very invested in it. The most amazing thing is, of course, that with the new laws in Canada, the idea of giving you a pretty picture as they euthanize you is now here, they’re now doing it again. It is a purely technocratic mindset behind it. Check it out. It’s either on Morgoth endeavours, classic movies. Soy and Green. It’s right there. It’s there.

Woes: Thank you. All right. Abel’s candor. Says Dad’s birthday tonight. Can’t make the stream. He’s 82 today. Born 1940. 99% of what we hate in our country has come in since then, all in one lifetime. Morgoth versus Woes is the conversation of the year. You two are the absolute champs. Thank you to both of you for what you do for all of us. Thank you very much. That’s a very kind comment, and it’s nice to know that one’s work is valued. And as you say, it’s an amazing thing to think that if you could go back to 1940, I mean, everything would be radically different in ways that you can’t even guess at, things that you wouldn’t even think of the ways that people talk to each other, the ways that they dress, the rules, the conventions that govern everyday life. It would be incredible. And I dare say that we would struggle to fit in, but that’s a sign of decline. The fact that we would struggle when I think of how the British people were betrayed, when I look at these old photos of London, I just think these crowds of people, I think of the betrayal that was just down the line, just about to happen. It fills me with sadness, not even rage. It fills me with sadness to think of these good people being just utterly screwed over, utterly in the most evil, mendacious way. Horrible. So, yeah, I agree, it’s quite amazing how much change has happened in a single person’s lifetime. But happy birthday to your father nonetheless. Okay. Irish nationalist media, they do not kill us because there are too many of us. There are a lot more of us than you think. If they tried to kill our thought and political leaders, it would be civil war, and they know it. So they try to suppress us without backing us into a corner. Only people with information from within the elite get whacked. Morgoth.

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Morgoth: Well, yeah, I don’t understand the point, to be honest. We’re living in a panopticon. They are conscious of where the threat is, and they will utilize the threat when it emerges.

Woes: Yes, I agree. Dog reliance.

Morgoth: What is it that I’m missing? How many more times do I have to hear the lecture that when there’s enough of us ready, we’re going to overthrow the power system?

Woes: Yeah, it’s. A difficult one. I don’t know how they’re going to deal with a large number of people who openly reject the system. If that large number does ever materialize, I don’t know what they’re going to do about it.

Morgoth: Right, okay, so define reject the system. What does reject the system actually entail?

Woes: Yeah, okay, so protests maybe, I don’t know, who knows what disgruntled population in.

Morgoth: The case of Ireland, this is why I know it’s nice and I hear to be a ball breaker, but these are serious times. And so when we hear like airy ferry kind of oh, when we reject the system, okay, what does that mean in practical terms? What does that mean? So let’s drill down into it. In the case of Ireland, let’s just say there’s 5 million people in Ireland. There was Irish nationalist who sent the chat. All right, so let’s just say what is it? How many people are we talking about rejecting the system? I tell you what, what would scale the system if you’ve got 5 million people in Ireland and a million of them decided to just not no longer turn up for work for one day or one week, there you go and when you have that, there has to be a clear and explicit message. We want the government changed or we want this refugee programme to end. We are against Agenda 2030, whatever it is. The Hate Speech laws in Ireland are coming in. So you can say, okay, there’s a million people refuse to go to a million Irish people refuse to turn up for work. They refuse to pay tax until the Hate Speech laws are repealed. Now that’s a populist outlook. It is a populist revolution. It is peaceful and it can happen if you have enough people who are going to wake up. I absolutely support that outcome. Now the pragmatic part is making it happen beyond just saying when enough people are waking up.

Woes: Yeah, I agree. It’s a matter of how to get there. I agree. All right. Doggerland Joe. A kind donation. Thank you. I’d like to apologize for repeating this point so often recently, but we absolutely must support each other to the highest of our abilities. To do so, we need not be the saviour or the enemy of all, but we must be the strength of our own. Thank you, gentlemen, for everything you do. Well, I certainly agree with you on that. I think that we should stick together. We should support each other. We should encourage each other. There shouldn’t be infighting or bitching or back biting. It doesn’t help anyone but our enemies. This is a very common refrain in my work. I’ve been trying to encourage that attitude for years. There are people, unfortunately, who aren’t amenable to that attitude, but they are a minority. I think that most people want a successful cohesive community. So I would just echo what Dogland Joe has said there. Margot, do you have anything to say there?

Morgoth: No.

Woes: Okay. All right. And we’re nearly at the end. I think there are only four more eggs. Benjamin says re Morgoth’s question about the US leaving the gear. I think in Afghanistan the motive is either that the US. Are able to test the effectiveness of next generation weaponry against that which is set to be deprecated and therefore planted, or plausible deniability should another ISIS emerge armed with US weaponry. Okay, that’s good. Thank you. Mr. Minority thoughts on Vagva Kernis? He encouraged people to get as self sufficient and off grid as possible and starve the beast at least ten years ago because the system isn’t fixable. He seems to have been right, in my opinion. Great stream, guys. Adheres to a tolerable New Year. I would agree. Vargarus is a bit of an eccentric. He has his own perspective on things. But I think he is correct about that matter. Morgoth, anything to say about Vargarchanis?

Morgoth: No. Really? That seems reasonable.

Woes: All right. Orthodoxy. Have WOZN Morgoth seen the Saragosa manuscript? A 1965 Polish film directed by Wauchich Has based on the 1815 novel the manuscript found in Saragosa by Yan Pataki. If not, I’d like to see a review of it sometime in 23. Sort of Don Quixotate territory in terms of the film genre. Something to bear in mind. Thank you for that. Orthodoxy. The Saragosa Manuscript.

Morgoth: Right.

Woes: Okay. Vingul, shout out to the old Morgoth video and old to Laura Trott. I remember that one very well.

Morgoth: By the way, she is leading the charge against tranny’s taking over. She was involved. I was sent something. The lovely Laura. She’s there. She doesn’t want those bulls in a female cycling, so there you go.

Woes: Interesting. All right. That’s nice to know. And thank you, Van Gogh, for that generous Superchat. Siemer, thanks for your work. To the both of you. Thank you very much. You’re welcome. Fredera Del chair. I really think about that gremlin in Gremlins too, that drinks the brain enhancement portion. When I listen to Morgoth, at times he’s a working class man, but he has the words to articulate what he’s feeling, unlike most of us. Well, that’s an interesting analogy, Morgoth. I don’t think this person meant any offence by that. I think they meant quite the opposite.

Morgoth: No, not at all. The brain portion I think I inherited from my grandfather as a young chap, if I have one. If that’s the case, then yeah, I’ve been all throughout my content and all across the years, I’ve alluded to the influence of my grandfather, who was not an ordinary man.

Woes: Okay, I just realized I forgot to read out the rest of that. Vinggold’s question. Shout out to the old Morgoth video and ode to Laura Trott. It hit as hard back then as The Band Played On did this year, and I have followed Morgoth’s work ever since. Also to woes video what is the abyss? Which I found it precisely the right time and which really helped me. Thank you. Well, a lot of people refer to that video.

Morgoth: I was going to say the Laura Trott video was actually originally then you can still go back on the original Morgoth Review blog. Blog, blog, which people forget these days, but there’s 500 articles in the early years. The thing is, this year I went back to substance and people came saying, oh, we missed the videos and everything and yeah, I get it. But originally I was a blogger. I have just gone back to blogging like I always did. Even the Lore Trod video was like one of the first that I did with help from Ferbaton, who was a bit more kind of savvy with video making. But the theme of the Laura Chart video, which is caste, was originally a blog post, was just this idea that you watch your own kin sort of emerge from the nondescript biomass of what the Olympic Games, that kind of recognition that there’s a person there that belongs to you, that you have a connection there. What globalism does and what globalism wants is to kind of destroy that. So if you look at the globalist, the Olympic Games is a perfect example of it. But now it’s much worse than what I originally wrote. That video, the script and whatnot because it’s based on the assumption that you don’t have that kind of connection. So if you look at the Olympic Games and it’s just people from everywhere at all times. And then in the case of Laura Trott, I recognized immediately that she is from my group. She is my people, genetically, spiritually, culturally, religiously, historically, of my kin. When I watched the Olympics, this is a good bit back, I think it was like 2015 or something. But still, just to see her emerging through this kind of swamp of otherness and I was like, she just looked so beautiful. It wasn’t just in the kind of something because she is very pretty. It was more than that. It was more like on a deep level, this is my home here. This is the female of my if you want to be purely kind of Darwinian and materialistic mode, this is the female version of my group. This is the female of my genetic phenotype. If you want or if you want to be an idealist about it, this is the form that I recognize, which is just purely perfect, which I view as the form of female, which fits me best amongst all of these people from the Third World and everywhere else. So it was on multiple different levels. There was something happening there. But in every scenario you can imagine, globalism was the enemy because it is incontrovertible. But Laura Trophies kind of a connection there as to somebody watching the TV.

Woes: Yeah, of course I understood that. There was a phrase in the article which I can’t remember now, but it says what you’ve just said that you recognize someone of your own kind, someone of the same ingredients. It was a lovely article. Okay, noticer in chief says here’s nearly 8 hours of insightful chat for millennial. Eight. Thank you gentlemen. Well, it’s nearly 7 hours. I doubt very much that we’ll go for 8 hours. I think we’re both beginning to get a bit worse for where but nonetheless, thank you very much for that. There’s something I want to mention earlier when you were talking about Andrew Tate is that while we’ve been talking he has been arrested for human trafficking or something that’s happened. Defiant Irishman Morgoth. Do you do any winter could fishing living in the northeast? Winter could fishing?

Morgoth: No, I’m too soft. I did it a couple of years ago. I went out but I actually did a video and I put it on the YouTube channel. But since then like no, I’m too soft. I’m too much of a soft shade. It’s brutal. But I have done it. I have done it in the past. I did a video of it and you can see where I am on that video out there. The era through park and it’s the middle of winter. I think it’s like January and I’m out there fishing and the weather is absolutely savage on the little pier around. The waves are coming over the top and it’s pretty brutal. But mainly winter is our retreat. I go for longer walks in winter, especially when the ground is frozen. But for me the fishing season is like spring to late. Summer wind asks me long kind of rambling because I like the frost, I like the crunchy drone and whatnot. But yeah, I’ve done it before. I didn’t catch anything. I’m too soft. I’m too soft for it. I tell people all the time, they don’t understand that North Sea wind strips the wind from you. The North Sea winds strips the skin from your bones.

Woes: We had it tough. It’s just the four Yorkshiremen connecting.

Morgoth: I keep telling you where they are and they don’t get it. I went up for a paint last week when we made and I don’t know if it’s a kind of cool because right now it’s actually seven degrees in the northeast. I’m just looking at my computer there and that’s actually not that cool at all. And he was saying like, these people from he always tells a story where all these Canadians came over and they’re used to, like-15, degrees, but they came to the northeast of England and they couldn’t cope because it was like this dampness that just crept into their bruins and it’s worse, even though it’s like five degrees or whatever. It’s worse than having like minus ten in Canada or-15 in Canada. It sounds like a bit of a call, but if I’m honest, I actually do prefer just to have snow or frost than the damp, kind of drizzly kind of shit that we get in north of England and Scotland, where it’s just all purveyors of not freezing, but cold dampness that just seems to crawl at the very marrow of your bones. It’s kind of weird. I get that it’s not name it’s 15, I get that it’s not always I see outside, but there’s something about it where you think, I wish it would just freeze instead of this kind of insipid cooled wetness, which kind of sinks into everything. It’s fucking awful.

Woes: Another upbeat monologue from Morgoth. There. Okay. Defiant Irishman responds in a dismissive tone to you saying that you’re too soft to go cold. Winter could fishing. All right. Barther says hello to both of you. Great show. I work in the grains market. I mainly deal with wheat, soybeans and corn. I expect the prices of grains to go a lot higher in 2023. Higher grain prices will lead to higher meat prices. Beef, pork, chicken. I hope you’re preparing for this. God bless you all. Well, this is why the ideal would be to have one’s own farmstead, so that you could be independent from this bullshit to at least a great extent. Yeah, I think that this is good advice. I hope that a good number of my viewers are able to follow this advice. We all need to prepare however we can. It does seem like tough times are ahead. Again, I would refer people to the Andrew Anglin thread that I linked earlier. I’ll link again now. Hold on a second. If he’s correct, then it’s going to be pretty bloody bad. Hold on a second. I’ve got to open the video. All right, here we go. Hold on a second. There that thread. Okay, so, Halenzian, this is the last one. Hellenzian says, what do you think is the idea of moving large numbers of dissidents into one village or town to take it over and show people a different way? The trouble with that idea is that you’re talking about dissidents. So it would be like herding cats, and there are a lot of dissidents that I fucking wouldn’t want to live anywhere near. People who hate me, people who attack me, all the rest of it. So I would pity any sane person who was stuck in the same place with them. Honestly. I’m sorry to say that, but it’s a thing people who are attracted to radical politics, French are often disagreeable people and like herding cats. That’s all I’ll say about that. The other thing is, I tend to think that it’s better to mix with apolitical people because, yes, they’ve got their heads full of a lot of bollocks, but on the other hand, it’s sort of milk toasted. They’re less spiky, they’re less aggressive, they’re less antisocial than a lot of people with fervent political convictions. And that’s more persuadable, perhaps. Morgoth?

Morgoth: Well, yeah, you’re going to run into the problem where it depends on how you classify distance. Let’s just take a sole take on this, which would be you always play down your power level, you always act sensibly. You are just normal people and you just happen to be moving into, let’s just say, scunthorpe. So on the surface, nothing is actually happening. You’re just a bunch of people who enjoy scunthorpe and you want to just be normal and you want to be centrists. And by centrist it means this beNAME language of protect, because I know where he’s coming from. Let’s just adopt the full glare kind of methodology here, where it’s like, okay, well, it’s not that we’re opposed to immigration per se. We just want to protect the flavour of the town. And what do the actual people say? Oh, it just turns out the people, they support us as well. It’s got nothing to do with immigration. It’s just not protecting the flavour of the town. And hey, look at this. The majority of the town want to protect the flavour of the town and because they all secretly get it as well. And so the local politics is kind of skewered and walked in a certain direction even though it’s underhanded. And then you get the other and it’s like, well, we’re going to march in and we’re going to call this the Ethanol state of scunthorpe. And we’re going to seize all of the private property, and then we’re going to put it to use and we’re going to turn women where women are now not allowed to work anymore. And we’re going to say, well, if you don’t, we’re going to adopt the Social Credit system because China is based and we’re going to do this all within our little scoop for Socialist Republic of Ethno Purity, which is also based on National Socialist principles. And we’re going to be proud about this. We’re going to have banners and everybody’s going to be based and it’s going to just not happen.

Woes: Is it? Yeah. Well, you have to be realistic. As I’ve said before, the kinds of people who make things happen in the real world are currently doing things in the real world, making things happen. They’re not involved in dissident politics, more’s the pity. I wish they were. And this is actually something that Academic Agent mentioned last night as one of the reasons for him pushing sensible centrism, because he wants to attract people exactly the types of people who aren’t attracted to fringe politics. He wants to get people who are accomplished, well balanced, sane, sensible, reasonable, so that we can actually start getting things done in the real world. Now, I think that’s a laudable aim. I voiced some concerns about that approach earlier. I don’t really care. I don’t want to piss on it at all. I think he is correct that we have to if this movement, if you want to call it that, if this community is going to achieve things in the real world, then it has to become less deranged. All this fucking nonsense that goes on on Twitter and Telegram looking for fights, this crabs in the bucket mentality, all of that has to end. And anyone who’s pushing that stuff and engineering it needs to be ejected. So we do need more functional, more reasonable, more worldly people on site before we’ll have practical results. But I also think that that’s probably going to happen because the world is going to get pretty shit and I think people will be looking the worst things get, and I’m not saying, oh, there’s going to reach a certain threshold, critical mass and then ideas will be mainstream. That could happen. But what I’m thinking is more likely is that the worse things get, the more people there will be from the mainstream who are looking for something else, something different that they can get involved with. Because right now it’s still at the stage where they can have their nice job, live in their nice village and just pretend that nothing is really wrong with the world and say that if it is wrong, if there is something wrong with the world, it only happens to the Chad girls and Robin anyway. So it’s not my problem. Well, I think as things spread, as dysfunction spreads, as it surely will, given the way that the government is behaving, I think you’ll get more of those types who simply can’t run away anymore. And when that does happen, I think it’s important that we don’t hold it against them that they took a long time to come around. There are some people now who attack people for not getting covered right at the start. That kind of a mentality is just fucking stupid. Again, it’s another dysfunctional attitude that doesn’t fucking help anyone. So all of this stuff we need to get over. Morgoth. Are you falling asleep?

Morgoth: No, it’s just raising. But I mean, I have to call time. It’s like a seven hour stream, I think 03:00 in the morning.

Woes: I didn’t think it would go on for 7 hours. I thought maybe similar to last year, four and a half, maybe 5 hours. But we’ve completely destroyed that record, haven’t we?

Morgoth: Yeah. It’s not going to happen next year when I’m in the middle of the schedule and it’s like a two hour little kind of normal kind of in and out. Is there any more questions? Because this is like a seven hour stream. It’s enough.

Woes: No, there aren’t any other questions. And if I’ve missed any, it will let me know. Now, I don’t think I have. I think I’ve gone through them all quite carefully. Oh, my God.

Morgoth: Oh.

Woes: Defiant Irishman with a follow up to his fishing question says I remember once top fishing in a 36 foot boat about 5 miles off the North Angle Sea coast in 30 miles per hour wind and being absolutely frozen solid and wet through. This was in June. We caught fish, though bad weather isn’t so bad when you’re catching fish? Well, it’s something I have no experience of, but I can believe you, and I take your word for it, Morgoth. Is bad weather so bad when you’re catching fish?

Morgoth: No, but okay, but it is when you’re not catching fish.

Woes: All right. Okay. We’re 1 minute away from 7 hours. Okay. Well, this has been a fucking blockbuster stream, I think this is apart from that quino casino one that I did a couple of months ago, this is the longest stream that I’ve done in years.

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[Millennial Woes continues his tradition of a yearly Millenniyule series of interviews that started in Dec, 2016.

Here, in his 7th Millenniyule interview for 2021, Woes chats (55 mins) with Mark Gullick. He’s an Englishman currently living in Costa Rica. They discuss his background in philosophy, writing for Counter-Currents, hate speech, the insane Left; the education system and useless degrees, music, and more.

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Millenniyule 2021 – 07

Mark Gullick

Dec 14, 2021

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[00:00]

Woes: Hello. And welcome back to Millenniyule 2021. I’m now here with Mark Gullick, who is, … Well actually, he’s a writer on Counter-Currents. But there is more to him than that.

So Mark would you like to introduce yourself, and just describe yourself for the audience?

Mark Gullick: Certainly! My name’s Mark Gullick. As you can see. I’m 60. Originally from London in England. I say London, England, because apparently there are about seven London’s in the USA. So and there are a lot of Americans down here where I am, which is Costa Rica, when I relocated almost six years ago.

I really came over here for a break, and just kept staying, and kept staying. Was intending to go back at some stage. And then the whole Covid thing sprang up almost two years ago, I guess, now.

And having watched the appalling things that are happening in, well across Europe, and the Commonwealth, and England, now it seems. As well, what Britain, I suppose the UK, I should say. I’ve just decided to stay put here, because as I speak there are, …

The only thing I have to do here in terms of Covid, is wear a mask when I go to a store, or get on a bus. That’s it. There’s no vaccine mandates. There’s nothing. There’s been no lockdown. It’s comparatively free and easy. And yet has the lowest infection rate in the Americas. So they’re doing it right, whatever they’re doing.

Personally, I’ve got a Phd, well three degrees. And all in philosophy. All from the University of Sussex. And yeah that’s me, essentially.

Woes: Hold on a sec. And could you tell us about the different, the three degrees that you have. Describe them for me.

Mark Gullick: Yeah. The the MA and the Phd were in were in straight philosophy. The BA was in philosophy with literature. And obviously a degree was a mixed bag. The Master’s degree, rather foolishly, I did on Heidegger’s, “Being in Time”. Which I don’t think was a terrific idea. Now I look back on it. Because I don’t speak German, either read German.

But nevertheless, it got me it got me conversant with “Being in Time”, which is just a towering book! Sorry, [noise of a motor scooter] motorcycles here don’t tend to have mufflers, or baffles on.

And my doctorate was, my supervisor was a man called Jeff Bennington, who was a friend and translator of Jack Derrida.

Woes: Right.

Mark Gullick: He suggested to me that, … We were talking, I think we’d had a couple of seminars about the body, about the role of the body in philosophy, and I showed an interest in that. And he said:

“Well, …”

Woes: What do you mean “the role of the body”?

Mark Gullick: Well philosophy is generally about, traditionally has been about, the soul, or the mind, or the psyche, or “noose” [sp] in ancient Greek, or it’s something non-corporeal. It’s whatever about us is, not the body. And the body has a kind of, it gets a bit of a bad rap in philosophy! Plato calls it this [word unclear] company. And obviously Christianity, well not obviously, but Christianity is rather harsh on the body. A sort of potted history of, … [was cut off]

Woes: Mark you’ve just disappeared! Are you still there? Oh dear, I think we might have lost Mark.

Mark Gullick: , … I was very under the spell of Derrida at the time. So it was a little bit, …

Woes: Mark, are you using the Wi-Fi from the bar, where you are?

Mark Gullick: I’m sorry?

Woes: Are you on Wi-Fi?

Mark Gullick: Yeah.

Woes: Could you get closer to the router, the modem. Because you just disappeared for about 20 seconds there. [laughing]

Mark Gullick: Oh okay.

Woes: Yeah, thank you. Get as close to the router as possible, that would be very good.

Mark Gullick: Okay. That’s about as close as I can get, I think.

[05:00]

Woes: Okay. Thank you.

Mark Gullick: Okay?

Woes: Yeah, so you were saying about the body gets [sound of roaring motorcycle] Oh my god!

Mark Gullick: Yeah.

Woes: Could you go indoors maybe? I don’t know. I mean, I don’t know about, that’s going to be really distracting! [laughing]

Mark Gullick: Okay. Yeah, listen, there is just no way around this. It’s just the setup here. This is the Third World. And I just can’t do anything about this.

Woes: Ah that’s unfortunate.

Mark Gullick: All I can do.

Woes: Okay, we will persevere. So you were saying about the role of the body. It has got a bad rap in philosophy. And it’s a, …

Mark Gullick: It has got a bad rap. And then it has got a bad rap in classical philosophy, and Christianity. When you start to get onto people like Nietzsche, like Merleau-Ponty, it begins to sort of make it’s presence felt a little bit more. Than it did. I don’t know if you’ve got that, but Plato calls the body:

“The shadow that keeps us company.”

Woes: Right.

Mark Gullick: And there’s a fascinating. I’ll just stop when something goes by. There’s a fascinating, … There’s probably a whole thesis to be written on Freud and the body. Freud started off, … I don’t know if you’re aware that Freud started as a neurobiologist. And I think his doctoral thesis was on the neural system of the catfish, or something similar.

So really it was about, and I don’t know if you’ve got this. But I was very under the spell of Derrida at the time, and deconstruction. And the difference between writing and speech. Which Derrida says sort of allies writing with the body, the dead letter. And so on, and speech with the soul, with fully present communication, signification.

So yeah, that’s my doctorate thumbnail sketch of.

Woes: Right. And we were going to speak about the role of the university. Because you recently wrote an essay that was published on Counter-Currents. I’ve actually forgotten what it was titled. But it was about the “Glass Beads Game” *.

[*Higher Education: Hermann Hesse’s The Glass Bead Game]

Mark Gullick: Yep.

Woes: We can go into that. But first how would you define, … Because I think in our age, in the present age, we don’t really know what the university is for, other than training people for a career. Giving them the knowledge that they need. Very sort of very black and White really.

But I think historically, and up until about 100 years ago, the university was conceived as something more vague than that, more nebulous. There’s more to do with forming a young man’s character. Would you like to go into that?

Mark Gullick: Yes! Yes it was! Well given that the oldest best known universities, are Oxford and Cambridge, which I think really started off around the 13th centuries. I think in those days it was becoming apparent that a locus was needed for knowledge. It wasn’t good enough just for people to pick, …

Because, of course, well when was Gutenberg’s printing press? Fourteen something? 1450, or something like that? And I guess after that with more of a proliferation of printed material, apart from anything else, the university became a place of libraries. You know, became a place where you would have a locus, or a collection of knowledge and information, which really didn’t exist before, I suppose. I mean, after the famous Alexandrian library.

I don’t know if, … Well, what disturbs me is that the university is being seen now, again, as the formation of a young person’s character. Unfortunately that character has been predetermined by some fairly fierce, and sort of neo-Marxist ideology. The classic phrase being that:

“Young people at university are now not taught how to think, but taught what to think!”

Woes: Yes. Yes.

Mark Gullick: Which does completely obviate the whole point of it. But then, of course, that split into two, because there’s the art side, the humanities side. And also the STEM side of things. Which the current sort of wokism, or whatever shorthand we want to use for it, hasn’t affected STEM, because it can’t really. Although they’ve made a good effort to try and say that:

“Engineering is sexist! Mathematics is racist!”

And so on, and so forth. That the hard sciences still manage to resist that.

But the humanities now are pretty much, you know, ideological training courses. You are not going to university now to learn how to think, to get the apparatus of rational thought, post Enlightenment stuff, the use of reason. You’re really going now to be told what you can and can’t say once you leave!

[11:03]

Woes: Well also there’s the conception of education itself. I believe that the roots of the word mean:

“To bring out of a person what is already within them.”

Mark Gullick: Epicavey [sp] in Latin. I’m not sure of the Greek is. But yes you’re absolutely right! To bring forth!

Woes: Yeah, to bring forth! Whereas we now think of education as just basically, indoctrination. Forcing stuff into a person and changing what is there already.

Mark Gullick: Yeah! Yes it is. And absolutely ruinous! Because, as I say, STEM is a different thing, and not something I know a great deal about in terms of the disciplines. On the humanities side. And I’ve been trying to get something into the mainstream media. Although, I don’t think they’ll touch me with a long pole, now. I think they check who you write for, [chuckling] before they even consider you.

But I think probably most of the humanities degrees in most of the British universities, certainly, are near useless now! Except for racking up a vast debt!

Woes: But [chuckling] there’s an interesting contradiction that this Leftist notion of education involves indoctrinating, and forcing stuff into the person. Whereas at the same time they have this notion that man is inherently good. So they’re all about like the sexuality, gender identity. They pretend to be dead against social constructs, and things that are artificial. And yet they have so little interest in what is already there in a person’s mind. The person that they inherently are. And want to indoctrinate. This is a strange contradiction.

Mark Gullick: It is. And it’s a fault line within the whole idea of wokism, or CRT, [Critical Race Theory] or any of the different sort of arms of the huge squid that’s covering education at the moment.

There’s an argument, for example, that race is a “social construct”. Which is not even an argument. I mean, it’s an absurd thing to say. And it negates biology. And so on and so forth.

Except when it comes to White people! When it’s not a social construct! It’s a very definite thing that exists in the world. It’s this clash of intersectionalities, that the Left haven’t quite mastered.

Partly, because they don’t have the post enlightenment apparatus that allows you to parse, P-A-R-S-E, parse different ideas and different concepts.

But the whole idea that, … I don’t know if you read a piece of mine on Professor Kathleen Stock, who became quite famous written. She was at my university at Sussex. And she was hounded out of her job for being what I suppose we call a “gender realist”! That boring old stuff about there being two sexes.

And although you can change if you do have body dysmorphia, or whatever it is, you can’t actually change your sex, your biological sex! Not simply, because people are defined by what they have between their legs, or whether they have hairy chests, or not.

But I mean, men are men, and women are women down to the cellular level! You know, it’s not just a quick, … Your whole DNA is shot through with being male, or female!

And yes, I do appreciate that, well hermaphrodite aside, that’s a separate thing. I don’t really understand much about it. But there are there is biological hermaphroditism, that’s the word.

But Kathleen Stock, Professor Stock simply said in, I think a book others called Material Girls. And in some of her lectures as well that silly men, are men, and women are women! And she wasn’t just debated, or questioned.

This is the thing now, it just becomes a witch trial! Straight away! There’s no room for:

“Well. Let’s talk about this.”

The Left will not debate!

[15:36]

Woes: Well yeah, at this point, they have arrived at an ideology and a doctrine, that they have absolutely no interest in augmenting, except to make it more pure! A more doctrinaire version of itself.

Mark Gullick: Yes! Yes! Yes! And it’s in the end, of course, it becomes the doctrine and the adherence to the doctrine that becomes the important thing, rather than the any intellectual fibre that might be contained within the ideas under question.

So, it’s just happened to another. I was at Sussex. And so was Kathleen Stock. And that Essex, obviously, you know, where Essex is. I assume you do. Although you’re Scottish, I gather by your accent.

Woes: Yes, yes, I’m from Edinburgh.

Mark Gullick: Okay. That’s where you have the brogue, not the rougher, you get more Glaswegian accent.

Woes: Yes indeed.

Mark Gullick: Anyway, there’s another lady called Joe Phoenix. She’s a professor, as well, I think. And the same thing has just happened to her. And funnily enough. This is what I meant by the intersectionalities. Both those ladies, both these professors, both these ladies, are women for a start, which should get you some points, on the intersectionality table. And they’re also lesbians.

Woes: Oh! Even better! [laughing]

Mark Gullick: Yeah! So you’d think that they scored pretty highly. But there’s a pecking order, is starting to emerge now. In the whole, you know:

“Yes, you’re gay. But, …”

And let’s say perhaps that, well I don’t know, Islam has a problem with homosexuality, which in part, it’s quite clear that it does.:

“Okay, well I’m afraid Islam trump’s, …”

It’s like those trump cards that people, the kids play with, in the playground. This is going to trump that!

Woes: Yeah.

Mark Gullick: So intersectionality will eat itself! Or it will certainly it will clash with itself in an irreconcilable way.

There was quite an interesting thing happened in England, oh probably going back a year now, or so.

They decided that it, well they didn’t decide. But they started to teach, to quite small children, I think quite worryingly small children, about transgenderism and LGBTQ. And so on and so forth.

And parents began to gather at the school gates on a daily basis to protest, to demonstrate, about this. But it was Muslim parents. And that was very interesting to me. Two of the great identity groups LGBTQ and Islam. Suddenly, White liberals had to choose between them.

Woes: Indeed!

Mark Gullick: Who to throw under the bus! So it was an uneasy standoff. But because, of course, a lot of people forget that that Muslims, well, sorry that I can’t say a blanket thing like that, but Islamic political tendencies, is not just conservative. It’s hyper conservative!

So somebody coming along and saying:

“Right! We’re going to give your children, Mohammed, and Sunisha, lessons read by a Drag Queen.”

That’s not going to go down well with Muslim families!

Woes: Where do you envisage this going? I mean, is this something, how is the Left genuinely not foreseen this? Or do they have a plan?

Mark Gullick: I don’t think they do have a plan. I think they’re high on the moment. They’re riding the wave of their success. Because the Left pretty much runs Britain now!

It’s very strange. If you look at any certainly on the public sector side, and the private sector are having to fall into step with this now. Any area of British life, academia, the media, the public sector, social services, etc., etc., you’d have a very, very tough time getting a job there if you felt to have any conservative leanings.

So you said something just then which made me think. Yes, do the Left have a plan for this? No. I don’t think they do. But what I do think is, and I use this too much, and I think a lot of people are starting to use it. But Horus, the Roman writer in the Epistles, writes:

“You can throw nature out with a pitchfork, but she will always come back!”

[20:30]

Woes: Right. Yeah. I mean, obviously this is relevant, communism, …

Mark Gullick: Sorry, carry on.

Woes: Well, obviously this is relevant with communism in the 20th century. But there’s also like, now we’ve got the trans-humanist stuff coming in.

And I wonder if this is another example, where nature will just hit back in some way that the genetic engineering that they do will turn out to be fatal lolg. I don’t know! And nature will triumph again. And it’s not that I even want that necessarily. I’m just saying how it plays out.

Mark Gullick: Well that is to venerate nature, of course. But then, on the other hand, I can’t think of anything else to venerate [laughing]! You know, it’s again it was the science fiction writer, Philip K Dick, I think it was. He said:

“Reality is the thing, that when you ignore it, it doesn’t go away.”

Woes: I love this quote! This is a really useful quote. I think it’s:

“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, it doesn’t go away.”

[Laughing]

Mark Gullick: Yes! Yes, that’s it. And it doesn’t, and it won’t!

And the trouble is, if you’re going to inculcate a whole generation of students into this strange twisted, non-logic, and anti-rational, type of thought, who are you unleashing on the world?

Woes: Well, exactly! Because they are going to be the managers and leaders of, …

Mark Gullick: Exactly! These students will these students will come out of the university and they won’t be going backpacking in Guatemala. They’ll be the head of your local council, or they’ll be a professor at your university. And eventually, of course, some of them would be politicians. And once that gets into the political stream, wow! That’s going to really pollute!

Woes: I think we’re already there, though. I mean, the generation of managers that we now have, and producers on TV, commissioning editors in the media.

Mark Gullick: Oh that’s true! Yeah!

Woes: They’re already of the mind that there’s no such thing as male and female. There’s no such thing as race, etc., etc., I don’t really know how much worse it could be, 20 years from now. But I dare say that they will find a way to surprise me!

Mark Gullick: Funnily enough, I think the saving grace might be the private sector. I remember reading an interview, … Oh that must have been a dozen, or 15 years ago with one of the heads of, … Now what are they called? CBI, Confederation of British Industries.

And even then, and this is going back to the start of this century, start of this millennium. He was asked about the university students he was having coming, or he and his colleagues were having coming for jobs. And he said:

“To be absolutely honest with you, they are utterly useless!”

Not just because they’ve never been given any behavioural parameters, they’ve never been given any idea that you’re supposed to work hard, and you’re supposed to have some discipline, and you’re supposed to be on time and all that kind of stuff. But also, because they can’t think straight!

You give them a propositional problem, or they don’t have, … Well, I mean, he didn’t say this, but I’ve sort of drawn on that whole idea, that eventually employers will just say:

“Look we’re not going to take people on like this! You can’t think straight! You haven’t got the apparatus of post-Enlightenment reason. They don’t know about the law of excluded middle. They don’t know, cause and effect.”

Funnily enough, I was reading something, or listening to something today, about, … Now I can’t remember where this was, but it has something to do with American academia. And it was a lobby group, a kind of black caucus, I suppose, or something like that in the academic world. They’ll just publish this short piece about:

“Look, the problem with education is its essentially White. And so everything that goes with it is White. And therefore it’s racist!”

Because as, you know, everything that’s now in any way connected with Whiteness, or it’s history is just daubed with a big cross on the door, you know:

“Racism lives here!”

And they were things like, time keeping is a White thing! Turning up on time.

Woes: [laughing] well, yeah.

Mark Gullick: How are you going to do in the workforce? You must have seen this whole thing about mathematics being racist? So instead of trying to up the standard, they drag the standard of the, … They’ve just stopped Advanced Mathematics courses in some universities, because, ….

[25:50]

Woes: Yes. And there’s also the, …

[Audio broke up]

Mark Gullick: Way out performing blacks, and, …

Woes: And similarly there’s the axing of Gifted Schools Programs in America. I don’t know if that’s happened elsewhere yet.

Mark Gullick: Yeah. Yep!

Woes: But they’re getting there. Because that’s like massively White, East Asian, and I guess, Ashkenazi jewish. So that destroys that whole avenue.

I mean, it’s like the destruction of the Grammar Schools, merging them into Comprehensives, or merging them into Secondary Modern [sp] to form Comprehensivenes. Clearly that destroys an Avenue by which the higher could be nurtured. And, …

Mark Gullick: Yes! Yes!

Woes: , … And helped. I mean, it’s really evil.

Mark Gullick: And there’s been a there’s been a key little event in the description of this type of activity, quite recently. Only in the last couple of years, I’ve noticed this. Which is the changing of the word “equality”, which essentially means equality of opportunity. And they’ve changed it into something called “equity”. Which really, when you read it, unpacks as “equality of outcome”. So, in other words, you’ve got to have equality of outcome. Which is absurd!

Woes: Yeah.

Mark Gullick: If you say you’ve got to have a quality of outcome, you’re denying every idea of hierarchy, natural hierarchies, hierarchies of intelligence, the whole IQ argument. Which is a very knotty one anyway, because IQ as good a performance indicator as it is, it’s not across the board for a personality. Somebody with a high IQ can be hopeless at, well, …

Woes: Yes.

Mark Gullick: I know I’m an excellent case in point.

Woes: [laughing] Well! We’re all absent-minded in different ways. But yeah, I know what you mean. But still, it is clearly a useful metric. And it’s interesting how much it is denied. But yeah, of course, the big lie here is that the very people who deny it will themselves be proud that they have a high IQ! I mean, it’s such a, …

Mark Gullick: Oh yeah!

Woes: Such delusion!

Mark Gullick: I know that a lot of the little catch phrases, and buzzwords, and penny phrases, that we’ve come over in the last five, ten, years. But the best one I think the most descriptive one is “virtue signaling”. I think that says exactly what it means! There is nothing better for a certain type of person than to be able to stand there and say:

“I’ve got my medals! I believe in the right things!”

Woes: Of course. But do you not think that such people must always have existed in great numbers? You see, this is an interesting thing for me, because it’s an example of a modern phenomenon that must just be an iteration of something perennial! Surely, people have always cared. I mean, we’ve always had the do-gooders, the moralists, the preachy types.

Mark Gullick: Yeah!

Woes: School moms, the Church ladies and that kind of thing. So I wonder if you, …

Mark Gullick: Yeah, just I was just gonna say that if you look back over sort of 18th, 19th, century novels across Europe, you know, Zola, or Dickens, or Thomas Hardy, or just basically throw a dart blindfolded into a dart board of novelists, and you’ll find it. You will find exactly that social striation. Including people who are not particularly as worthy as they think they are. That they have either the social standing. It’s probably more social standing with what I’m talking about.

In something like Zola’s novels, or flow bear [?], or something like that, then what it’s become now. Because, of course, the mass media allows you to virtue signal to millions of people, not just people in your local church. And the more people can applaud, you the more you’re going to want to parade your inherent goodness.

[30:13]

Woes: Yes. And if with social media an ordinary person could garner, you know, hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of people who can then give them adulation. And it’s a human thing to enjoy adulation. But it does divorce you from the everyday. And, of course, for some people it’s just dopamine. It’s a massive, …

Mark Gullick: Yes. That’s right! Yeah.

Woes: And then they’ll say anything in order to get the adulation in order to continue it coming. And, of course, in our age there is a programme of opinions, like a menu to choose from of things that you can say every day on social media that will get you that adulation! It’s not even a, there’s no mystery to it! I mean, there’s no struggle! There’s no:

“I’ll have to work this out myself, and then bravely say it which will go against the social paradigm. And I’ll be taking a risk!”

It’s completely open. Everyone knows what you’re allowed to say. And what you should applaud, and what you can expect to be applauded for. But then, on top of that there’s then the pretension that it’s not like that at all! And when somebody says, like that they’re pro-gay, or something, then they’re being “brave”, by saying that.

Mark Gullick: That’s right. The people who think they are the resistance, who are, in fact, the establishment, now. And a lot of the, what I heard described as the, “be nice”, no, “be kind” social media brigade, that just say:

“That’s all we need to do! Just be kind to each other!”

They are the most rabid pack of snarling, snapping, wolves, if anybody steps outside of the, …

Woes: Absolutely! Yeah. I mean, this is something I’ve noted for several years now that there is far more hate on the Left. And I don’t really, …

Mark Gullick: Oh, yes! Yeah.

Woes: I’m not sure if these terms are applicable really anymore, but we’ll use them for convenience.

Mark Gullick: They work as a shorthand, until we have something better to come along, yeah.

Woes: Yeah. And there is far more hate among like the champagne socialist, the antifa, they are riddled with hatred! Whereas I think on the far-Right, or in the national sphere, there really isn’t that much hate. I mean, there are people who are indelicate, there are people who are angry. There are people like that, but most of us aren’t like that. I think most of us just want a sane world.

Mark Gullick: Yes! I’m just going to say, the whole idea of “hate speech” as well, it’s so, I don’t know, if you’ve ever known anyone who you say something to them, or voice an opinion. And they don’t just say:

“Well, I’m not sure if I agree with you.”

They just go from naught to 60 in three seconds! It happened to an English journalist called Rod Liddle recently. Do you know, Liddle? Rod Liddle? He writes for The Spectator.

Woes: Yeah.

Mark Gullick: He’s an okay guy. He’s affable. And he’s Right-ish. Although he’s a social, he’s in the SNP, I think. But he was cancelled, or whatever they call it. Deplatformed from a local university, or from a British university. And he was saying the same type of thing as Professor Stock and Phoenix were. Which is:

“Men are men, and women are women.”

What we are! Grow up. And then they immediately said:

“This is hate speech!”

Woes: That’s just remarkable! If you went back to the 90s and said that to affirm the gender binary will be regarded as hate speech, no one would believe you! [chuckling] I don’t think.

Mark Gullick: Not just contentious, or worthy of debate, or even, you know, slightly to be sniffed at. But actual “hate speech”! It means you hate transgender people, or whatever. It’s just an extraordinary idea! But it is, of course, the way that these movements gain traction.

I remember 20 odd years ago, when I last worked in an office, you know, some of my views on things got me some odd looks in the office. And maybe the occasional cold shoulder at after-work drinks, or something. And that’s when I first remember noticing the phrase:

“For fear of being branded racist!”

Which became a very, almost a banner under which a lot of public sector bodies sailed for a long time, and still do. But now it’s far more serious than that! Now I probably would have lost my job for saying that some of the things I said about Islam, or whatever it might be.

It’s changed. The power has become frightening, really! Even for the uncancellable! I’m sure you’re aware of the whole furore around, who’s the Harry Potter woman? J Rowling.

Mark Gullick: Yeah, it’s the same as Germaine Greer, even. [laughing].

[35:30]

Mark Gullick: Yeah, but not only, … Yes! Yes! Yes! Of all people! She would never have predicted that happening, I don’t think. Poor old Germaine Greer!

But not only did JK Rowling sort of get socially. I mean, you can’t cancel her, she’s the third richest woman in the world, or something ridiculous. Some of these people are uncancelled in terms of you can’t cost them their career. You can just shun them!

But they didn’t stop at that. They had photographs of protesters outside her house, with the address clearly visible. The veiled implication being:

“Come and smash some windows, everybody!”

Woes: Yeah. I mean, in her case she can easily afford the necessary security. I’m sure she can afford multiple teams of security squad, security guys, to keep her safe.

Mark Gullick: But who wants to have to live like that?

Woes: Well, exactly! And for other people such luxuries are completely impossible.

Mark Gullick: Yes. Yes.

Woes: And this is the threat of the mob in this day and age. I had a similar thing where antifa came to my house. It was a long time ago. It was nearly five years ago. And they didn’t do a protest, or anything. They just came to the house. And if that’s frightening enough. If that’s never happened to you, it’s a scary, very unsettling thing!

Mark Gullick: Yeah. I’m sure it is.

Woes: And that is something that it amazes me that antifa never, … I don’t know, it shouldn’t, it doesn’t really amaze me. Because I know I understand why they get away with it. But still! It’s galling! And it also amazes me is that they don’t realize themselves. That they don’t think:

“Hold on! I’m doing a really shitty thing here!”

But this is the luxury of being on the winning side. You don’t have to question yourself.

Mark Gullick: Yeah, that’s the luxury being on the winning side. And it’s also the fabulous feeling that you get of being in lockstep! You know:

“I think the right things, those people think the wrong things. Therefore it’s their house we’re gonna turn up and give a hard time to!”

And not only that, it’s not even. You don’t have to stand up and say:

“Okay I’ve got a problem with transgenderism, or I’ve got a problem with this, or I’ve got a problem with that.”

I’m sure you’ve heard about this as well. I’ve never heard of this band “Mumford and Sons”. I’ve heard of them, but I’ve never heard them. No idea what they’re like. But they’re banjo player, I think they’re sort of folky band. Their banjo player, or something like that, tweeted, or put on Facebook, that he was reading a book by Andy Go, or Ngo, however you pronounce it.

Woes: Oh yes! Yes.

Mark Gullick:The very brave American journalists who got hospitalized with brain bleeding by antifa, in Portland, I think.

But this guy just said:

“Oh, I’ve just been reading this great book about antifa.”

And wow! That was it! Out the band! Off social media! It just immediately pounced! Like guard dogs.

Woes: It’s remarkable! I mean, it’s like the kind of thing you hear about, that you would associate that, with Soviet level control of public opinion.

Mark Gullick: Well yeah. And that’s a real worry if it goes down that road then. Yeah.

Woes: Well. I mean, it almost doesn’t need to, because we’ve already got that level. I mean, that level of control is pretty damn high! You can see what’s going on there.

And actually something that I wanted to put to you specifically was that in Britain and the West in general, we used to have the expression, “it’s a free country”, whereas no one says that anymore. It used to be a sort of casual thing that people would say jokingly, but everyone knew that it was true. And it was a banality. Yeah, it was funny to say it, because it was so obvious and just:

“Yeah, of course, yeah. And we live in a free country. Yes.”

Mark Gullick:I remember in the 1970s. Yeah, I remember my parents, friends, in the 1970s saying it. You heard it on situation comedies all the time. And it was a rhetorical question, the answer being yes, of course, it’s a free country! The answer now is:

“No. It absolutely isn’t!”

[40:09]

Woes: Yeah. And I think that people have entitled which, …

Mark Gullick: I’m just going to say, and that leads on to one more thing. Which once you look [cutting out] sees. You look to politicians in the media to, … Oh sorry! Yes, I was just going to say that once you feel free speech is under threat [cutting out]

Woes: Oh dear! Let’s see what happens. I’m sure he will be back. I know that he’s outdoors just now, so that’s probably the cause of all this. But oh come on let’s see.

Oh dear. Mark can you hear me? He’s disappeared okay. Oh no that’s a shame there are what I’ll probably do is keep this one fairly short once it comes back so that we’ll just get it wrapped up.

I’ll ask the questions that have been posted on Entropy and there are two of those. And I don’t think now there aren’t any on Odysee. It’s a shame, because he’s such an interesting guy, and clearly has a lot to say. But I’ll try to persuade him to get a better setup together for these kinds of things. Because I think he should be doing more of this. I think he’s a really worthwhile speaker. But I don’t think he realizes that! [chuckling] Some people are like that they don’t realize that they’d be good at this stuff until they do it.

Let’s see what’s happening. See if he sent me an email. Ah no. He’s not showing up. That’s a real shame. Oh someone says, thank you Galileo’s Tongue. He says:

“He seems like a nice bloke. Where can I hear more from him? How did you find him Woes?”

Well, he writes for Counter-Currents. And Greg did a stream earlier this year I think it was the 10th anniversary of Counter-Currents and he did a celebratory stream. And he had a lot of his writers appeared on that. Just voice only. And for most of them I think it was the first time they’d ever done anything like that. And so and one of them was Mark Gullick. And that was how I first heard of him.

Now I think I might have read some of his essays before then. But thereafter I was aware of him as a person there was a sort of voice to go with the name. And so I made a point of, because I liked what he was saying on that stream.

I find him quite a likable guy, affable and interesting. So I looked out for his essays thereafter. And I think I’ve read about five of his essays since then. And he really is a bloody good writer. He did one about 1984. He did one about the university. He’s done several recently that I’ve read.

Ah, here he is.

Mark Gullick: I’m back.

Woes: Hello? Hello? Hello?

Mark Gullick: Hi, sorry about that. I think that’s this end. This again. It’s Third World internet and it does just drop in and out.

Woes: Okay. Well, let’s we’ve been going for 45 minutes, which is just usually about the average for the Millennial streams. So I’ll ask you a few questions that have been posted.

[45:00]

Mark Gullick: Tell me.

Woes: Okay. These are quite different from what we were talking about earlier:

“Mark where are you educated in the analytic tradition that began with G E Muer [sp]?”

Mark Gullick: The only thing I know about Muer, … Well, no is the answer. No absolutely not! I steered very clear of logic and anything along those lines. Anything mathematical.

The only thing I know not Muer, … I’m not thinking of Bradley who was the one that was the influence on TS Eliot. One of those two I probably put my foot in it. That might have been Bradley not Muer. No. I wasn’t basically. I really came up through the classics. And then did a fast forward to Existentialism, when I was doing my first degree. And that sort of set the mould for the rest of my studies.

Woes: Right okay. So the rest of it was:

“Who are some of your favourite analytic philosophers?”

But I’m guessing you don’t have many [chuckling]!

Mark Gullick: Not really, no. No. Not my area of expertise, if anything is. I mean, I don’t know. Analytically? It depends if that’s a specific school then I’d probably put my foot in it, if I said that I was very interested in Wittgenstein, who I find analytical. But I don’t know if that’s what the questioner means by an analytical school.

Woes: He said analytic, which I’m suggesting, it’s a specific field.

Mark Gullick: I think you might be right, yes. Yes.

Woes: And then the other question was:

“Mark. You said that you knew a member of Killing Joke, back when you worked as a bartender. Who was he? And did you ever see Killing Jokes live gigs?”

Mark Gullick: Not quite true that I knew him. I did live with a member of the Clash for a while. But I didn’t know a member of the Killing Joke.

But the chap I was referring to was Geordie Walker, tremendous guitarist. And I walked into a bar in Brighton one night where I was at university. That’s where Sussex is. And there was Geordie Walker. He’s six foot three. And he’s very, very, very stand out. And he just got me completely drunk all night! Wouldn’t let me pay for a drink. And he told me that we would, … I said:

“Look you’ve got to let me buy you a drink.”

He said:

“No. We’re drinking the royalties for Love Like Blood.”

Which is probably their most famous single.

Woes: Ah I see.

Mark Gullick: That’s my Geordie Walker story.

Woes: Okay. And you also met Ian Curtis, of course, because, …

Mark Gullick: I did meet Ian Curtis. Yes. Yes.

Woes: Yeah you did a wonderful essay about Joy Division.

Mark Gullick: Well that was, and I think the story is included in that. I just had a half an hour, 45 minute, chat with him. And the nicest thing about that, well bittersweet really, because, of course, it has such a tragic end. The nicest thing about that was I went to see them again in London a couple of weeks later. And he recognized me and called out to me and said:

“Hey! Hey Mark! How you doing?”

Which now I look back on it some people think:

“My god! That’s legendary! You met Ian Curtis!”

But a charming man. And very tragic. But yes, I did write a piece about that. Which would have been in May, I suppose, because that was the anniversary of his death.

Woes: Yeah, it’s a shame. I do wonder what they would have gone on to do.

Mark Gullick: I absolutely, I really do. I wonder whether the band would have gone down the New Order route into electronica. And so on. I wonder whether, because when you listen to Blue Monday, it’s his vocal style. It’s just not over bass guitar and drums. It’s over kind of pulsing, electronic, upbeat. So I mean, I wonder.

Woes: Yeah I remember hearing an interview with I think it was Bernard Sumner who said that after his suicide they made a decision to go upbeat. In which case, had he lived, then they probably wouldn’t have gone upbeat in more New Order territory.

Mark Gullick: Yeah.

Woes: And I do think that Closer is just a fantastic album.

Mark Gullick: Oh it’s brilliant. And you can tell from the I think the first New Order album was called Movement. And you can tell that those songs were, in fact, I’ve recognized some other songs from, … I saw them live about six times.

Oh! I forgot to tell your questioner. I saw Killing Joke three times, was the answer to that question. And they were a staggering band to see live. And the first time I saw them was at my university. And they came through the audience with these the flaming torches. It was London, kind of primitive dancers, bouncing around and stuff. They were they were quite something else!

But no, the first New Order album Movement was obviously Joy Division work in progress, which Sumner took over.

[50:12]

Woes: Yeah. And I have listened to it. But I haven’t studied it. But I’ve heard people say it. It does feel quite like a Joy Division album. Or at least a midway point between the two. Okay there’s a question for you that’s just come in:

“Have you ever come across J M E McTaggart, The Unreality of Time?”

Mark Gullick: No. Not at all! Don’t recognize the name, nor do I recognize the book.

Woes: Okay. And there’s another one:

“Or Timothy Spriggs, The Vindication of Absolute Idealism?”

Mark Gullick: No I haven’t! I would love it if the questioner could email those to you. And you could bounce them on to me though, because I’ll always take a recommendation.

Woes: Okay. I’ll send those on to you. All right then. Well, let’s wrap it up there.

Mark Gullick: Sure. Listen Colin, my apologies for the standard of the broadcast. I hope it hasn’t been too wrong.

Woes: No.

Mark Gullick: If we do this again, … I mean, I’m in the process of, it is very, very difficult here! I live in a place where there’s about five apartments. But I’m the only one living here. So I can’t, … To get the internet set up just for my apartment is impossible, because I’m not a resident. You have to be a resident. And my landlady doesn’t do it. So I kind of piggyback on them on the cafe next door [wispering], … In case they’re in. [Woes laughing] But yeah, which is something okay.

So I hope it wasn’t too rough for you. And thanks ever so much for talking me through all this stuff. I wouldn’t be able to do it otherwise.

Woes: That’s fine and thank you for taking the effort. I do appreciate it. And this has been, …

Mark Gullick: You are more than welcome. I’m a great admirer of yours as well. I’ve watched a few of your debates, and speeches, and lectures. And so on. And you have a very measured approach to the way that you take on ideas. What’s your academic background, by the way?

Woes: Oh, I don’t have one really! [chuckling] I went to Art College!

Mark Gullick: Aha! Aha! But you did form a band.

Woes: Well, yeah. But it just wasn’t really academic, you know, I don’t, I can’t really tell you anything that I learnt there. So yeah. It’s kind of like three wasted, well four wasted years. [Mark laughs] But that’s also in London.

Mark Gullick: Right. Just one point I wanted to finish with, because it’s such an important point., you know, Jonathan Bowden, or Boowden, I’m never quite sure how you pronounce it. He said that he thought Counter-Currents was an online university.

Woes: Yes.

Mark Gullick: And I’ve said to a few people recently. If you are, … Well not that I know any 18 year olds. If, you know any 18 year olds, or if you’ve got a kid who’s 18. And they want to go to university to do a Humanities degree, try everything you can, short of physically locking them up, to stop them doing that!

If they just took 100 pounds and went to half a dozen charity shops, picked books at random which interested them. In three years time, they’ll probably be much, much more employable than somebody who’s done Gender studies, or Whiteness studies, or whatever the faddish thing is there. [Woes laughs] You’re just better off!

Woes: And then in the meantime they should read Counter-Currents. Yeah, I agree.

Mark Gullick: Absolutely! Yeah! Counter-Currents put me onto a load of stuff I had never heard of, another rank. And then, as I say I’ve just heard of the titles of two books and authors that I’ve never heard of before. So that’s worked for me.

Woes: All right well I’ll send those on to you okay. Well, we’ll end this one here. So thank you Mark Gullick for appearing on Millennials 2021.

Mark Gullick: Thank you very much. Have a lovely Christmas. Thank you for inviting me. All right.

Woes: Thank you very much.

Mark Gullick: Goodbye!

Woes: Bye-bye.

[54:14]

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@millennialwoes
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@pstarzo
4 days ago
Spencer is a gay liberal now
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@AaronKasparov
4 days ago
Definitely, also Merry Christmas / happy Yule to you and yours, cheers
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@AaronKasparov
4 days ago
Spencer said his experience with the Alt-Right and C’ville was him “Slumming” in a recent CNN interview. Time to move on.
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@Rubix
4 days ago
I wish woes woudl get Richard Spencer on this year to talk about his trial and new direction with Brahmin. I know they fell out but c’mon it’s Christmas.
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@CJSomething
3 days ago
Spencer stated explicitly that he would not be on Milleniyule, like ever again. Also he blocked Woes on Twitter.
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@Lemonaid22
4 days ago
White guys should stop race mixing with Thai women.
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@Vingul
2 days ago
I thought this guy was in Costa Rica.
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@Lemonaid22
4 days ago
Joy division were the second best band from Macclesfield. The best band were the Macc Lads
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@Wibble
4 days ago
A well known Twitch streamer opened music choice up to viewers….i got them to play “He’s a Poof”….happy days!
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@sorearm
3 days ago
sweaty betty
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
I have a PhD in racism
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@spergoutout
4 days ago
You should do an online course. Racism 101 etc
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@Wibble
4 days ago
Nice guy, i like the cut of his gib…
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@CharlieBrown
4 days ago
He’s not in Thailand
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@WhiteIsTheNewGreen
4 days ago
Society is a racial contruct.
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@bscreative
5 days ago
cheers mark. great stream
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@threestars42
5 days ago
He sayd about 3 rimes he’s in Costa Rica wtf
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
People like Gates, Schwab and Rothschild should commit suicide.
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
needs more automobiles
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@sorearm
3 days ago
great work sir, loving the streams
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@lagud
4 days ago
We need more people like Mark here in Britain yet i envy him in Guatemala.
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@M3t4phYzX
4 days ago
lol.. thanks
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@IanLionEye
4 days ago
@Mark
Gullick What should we do if our freedom of speech is being jeoprodized?
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@eofjeroifjerwipofj
4 days ago
Great guest, really enjoyed it.
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@Rubix
4 days ago
Destiny won’t debatee you bro unless you are the low hanging fruit he needs to dunk on if you have no name or clout online.
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@Rubix
4 days ago
@Vingul
I have no “deal” with Thai women. I just notice a big number of sex tourists in this sphere who claim to support white identity while they f asian whores in Asia. Lots of the Yule guests are this exact type.
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@Vingul
4 days ago
@rubix
wtf is your deal with Thai women?
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@Rubix
2 days ago
Last time I tried to reply to this, but chat was over already. I have nothing against Thai woman. I just find it funny there are so many alt right sex tourists who claim to support white identity but are banging Asian women and ladyboys in Asia.
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@Vingul
2 days ago
When I saw that chat comment again I thought you had said it (again) about the next guest as well, the chat wasn’t very busy just then. Anyway, I’m pretty sure Gullick said he was in Costa Rica. Wouldn’t assume that it had anything to do with sex tourism.
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@MajesticCasual
4 days ago
I LOVE the name “Irreplaceable”
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@MajesticCasual
4 days ago
Is it possible Charles Robertson just goes to an awesome or tolerant college? I remember his presentation and was blown away that he was able to do this fact based, respectable presentation about this topic.
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@AaronKasparov
Understanble tbh
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@Rubix
5 days ago
@threestars42
Ok, I just got here so I didn’t here this whole convo.
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
I’m not a fan
@RogueTrader
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@AaronKasparov
Good reason to get some answers from him
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@KingOfWasps
5 days ago
Nice guy
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@pstarzo
5 days ago
@RogueTrader
true, I do find him funny in an ironic way. His seriousness is amusing.
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@CharlieBrown
5 days ago
Thanks Mark
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@pstarzo
Yeah we know but he always interesting
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@Rubix
5 days ago
This dude is piggybacking on a Thai internet cafe’s internet while being a sex tourist in Thailand.
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@Vingul
haha
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@Rubix
5 days ago
@Vingul
Lol. You mean Thai pussy?
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@sunnyjim533
5 days ago
Thanks Mark
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
The wrong people commit suicide.
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@Vingul
5 days ago
@RogueTrader
given his history I don’t doubt it. Returning to his East Asian roots would be the charitable explanation
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@Rubix
5 days ago
I’m not a resident. Ok so he’s an illegal immigrant. Ironic.
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
Nice, I like it already
@Gullaldr
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@rubix
Yeah i wanted to hear Spencer too
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@ArcadeFate65
5 days ago
Jimmy “Aleister Crowley” Page and Peter “freemason” Hook
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@Vingul
5 days ago
@AaronKasparov
quite dark, brooding “post-punk”. Try the song “Disorder”. They only did two albums.
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@Vingul
Yes and it was avery modest as in low class girly bar lol
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@Gullaldr
5 days ago
Based artwork
@AaronKasparov

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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
and the snooker player Mark Selby
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
That sucks, I’ll look them up.
@Vingul
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@Vingul
5 days ago
@RogueTrader
LOL for real?
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@Gullaldr
5 days ago
Joy Division is fantastic
@Lemonaid22
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
I met Jimmy page in Bangkok about 10 years ago
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@Vingul
5 days ago
@AaronKasparov
Ian Curtis was the lead guy in Joy Divison. Killed himself unfortunately. Great band
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@Lemonaid22
5 days ago
@RogueTrader
Boyz Town
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
I don’t know who any of these people are lol
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@Vingul
5 days ago
Wow, meeting Ian Curtis. Big
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@Rubix
5 days ago
Oh he’s in Thailand? Yet another alt right sex tourist.
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@Vingul
5 days ago
@millennialwoes
Where is Mark at?
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@threestars42
5 days ago
Costa Rica, outside a bar
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@AngharadKeltic
5 days ago
I think it’s fascinating. Cinema verite
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@Lemonaid22
5 days ago
80s Great song by killing joke
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@AngharadKeltic
5 days ago
you can hear traffic go by
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@Lemonaid22
Soi 6
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@Vingul
5 days ago
Noice
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@AngharadKeltic
5 days ago
He probably gets better reception there
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@Rubix
5 days ago
He’s in hell.
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
this is like a fever dream
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@Lemonaid22
5 days ago
Is he in Pattaya?
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
Hope not
@Lailoken
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@AngharadKeltic
5 days ago
or outside his house
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@AngharadKeltic
5 days ago
He’s in a garage
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@Vingul
5 days ago
Lol peak audio
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
is he in Cali or summat
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
schizo mode
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@Lailoken
5 days ago
Third-World Internet: the future of Europe.
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@Rubix
5 days ago
Dude is streaming in an alley? Wtf? Homeless?
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@threestars42
5 days ago
Some of his articles are really good
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@IanLionEye
5 days ago
how weird that he was cut off just as he was saying what you should do if you feel like your freedom of speech was at stake.
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
Good and interesting guy, hope to hear more from him.
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
I feel the aurge to go watch some Kim Wilde videos
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@Vingul
5 days ago
Aye does seem like a very good guy
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
Woes just do a whispering ASMR for the next 20 mins u good nibba
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@CharlieBrown
5 days ago
In some tropical backwater bar
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@Vesper
5 days ago
I don’t mind backround noise
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@CharlieBrown
5 days ago
It adds to the ambience of a man on the run
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@Aunt-Sally
5 days ago
I was enjoying it
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
The background noise was a bit distracting
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@CharlieBrown
5 days ago
Shame ‘cos it’s a great chat
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
Bruh moment
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@Vingul
5 days ago
Dearie me
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@Bluj162
5 days ago
They’ve got him
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@Vingul
5 days ago
vapid music
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@Vingul
5 days ago
@Bluj162
preposterous
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
It’s the year 2034: Inflation is 500%. I pull out my Millennial Woes NFT to purchase groceries. #Winning
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@Bluj162
5 days ago
I like Munford and sons, fight me
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@Vesper
5 days ago
Gullick at a MotoGP event
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@Vingul
5 days ago
AAGH terrible band
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@Vingul
5 days ago
Gullick looks like one of them Dark Devonians
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@Fred_Sticks
5 days ago
Dickens had it down with ‘telescopic philanthropy’, people who ostentatiously cared about remote african cannibals while letting their own family live in poverty.
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@Vingul
5 days ago
I’m sure plenty of Jews are alright, mind. But as a collective? Bruh.
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@Vingul
Yes they have to go- all of them
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
tokyo drift sounds like
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@Vingul
5 days ago
Can’t think of one group I actually ha–…. wait a minute. That’s right. The Jews.
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@limited.autonomy
5 days ago
Is Mark in some kind of car chase?
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@Vingul
5 days ago
Don’t even hate trannies tbh
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@Vesper
5 days ago
I don’t “hate” other races (though I want them in their own countries), I do hate trannies though
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@oppoten
5 days ago
I do hate transgender people. They’re mocking civilization.
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
niggas keep talking about left and right, i’m always right nigga
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@KingOfWasps
5 days ago
Peak wank
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@Vingul
5 days ago
Hate is a valid emotion nibba
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@Vesper
5 days ago
There is hardly any Nigerians here though
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
I have travelling in some quite respectable settings, they do get about
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@Vesper
5 days ago
Nigerians are far better than Somalis, at least in the US.
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@Vingul
5 days ago
@RogueTrader
I won’t meet a lot of Nigerians mate
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
A lot of Nigerians you will meet are smart cookies, don’t underestimate them all
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@Vingul
5 days ago
@GigaChad
check out the big brains on chad
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@Vingul
5 days ago
No idea what myQ is. Upper-echelon midwit perhaps.
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
Niggas keep talking about social media, what about anti-social media? asking the real questions
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@sunnyjim533
5 days ago
is this Rhubba? Sounds like him….
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5 days ago
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
I think my IQ is 100 max tbh
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@Vingul
5 days ago
I like this guy though
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@Vingul
5 days ago
Another casual IQ humblebrag!!
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@mordskerl
5 days ago
it’s ironic, they’re skirting around race realism and it’s conservative white people who are retreating into race denialism
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
200 IQ gang
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
When i was at the local comp school it was praticulary derilict but it had only been built 30 years before
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@oppoten
5 days ago
It’s code for Gentiles
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@riley1805
5 days ago
in my London office they just let the black one stay ob facebook all day because she couldnt learn to do anything
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@vesper
A lot of the white Brits i’ve met recently are a disgrace to our race
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
Yep
@Vesper
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@Vesper
Of course thats the catch and how you get trapped in tollerance
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@Vesper
5 days ago
@RogueTrader
The problem is when they are a significant % they form their own enclaves
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
I’ve been working with a old bloke from Jordan and a young girl from Algeria and i have to admit they are nice people and we all get on very well
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@GigaChad
5 days ago
Inshallah
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
@CharlieBrown
Feel jelly
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
Good point he’s bringing up here which highlights why you never call yourself “racist”. That would be like calling yourself “sexist” for saying there’s two genders. It’s just a recognition of reality. No reason to use your enemies lables to describe it.
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@CharlieBrown
5 days ago
@RogueTrader
I imagine Mark is sitting in some ramshackle bar with a cocktail
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@motardpdx
5 days ago
Can we come up with our own CRT? Stop talking about CRT and start talking about ART. (absolute race theory)
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@BASSed
5 days ago
I mean lights
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@BASSed
5 days ago
There are 4 genders
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
Who’s sat at the side of the road?
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
*race realism
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@gusphase
5 days ago
@Patriciusvun
the Hitchhiker’s guide to the dissident right
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@AaronKasparov
5 days ago
This guy was great in There Will Be Blood, cool to know he knows what’s going on.
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@gusphase
5 days ago
@gaddiusmaximus

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@Patriciusvun
5 days ago
i love that his his morning robe is now basicly a symbol for this show lmao
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@gaddiusmaximus
5 days ago
I know he looks like the Iron Sheik in his avi but IRL he looks like Daniel Day Lewis mixed with Magnum PI
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@RogueTrader
5 days ago
Ello ello ello what do we have here?
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@Thecryptochick
5 days ago
It’s a third world, unless you’ve been to one, you won’t understand.
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@gaddiusmaximus
5 days ago
An archive of Mark Gullick’s writings at Counter-Currents:
https://counter-currents.com/author/mgullick/
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@bscreative
5 days ago
Is he sat next to the M5?
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5 days ago
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@PeersTaylor
5 days ago
. LIVE now.
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@GC
5 days ago
ok live now
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@bscreative
5 days ago
It’s Live. Refresh.
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@Patriciusvun
5 days ago
is it starting soon?
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@Patriciusvun
5 days ago
HYPE
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[Millennial Woes continues his tradition of a yearly Millenniyule series of interviews that started in Dec, 2016.

Here, in his 2nd Millenniyule interview for 2021, Woes chats (101 mins) with PhilosophiCat. She’s an American nationalist, with a keen interest in Julius Evola. They discuss religion and spiritualism; the need to focus on the Covid issue vs demographics; and much more. Odysee comments included (355).

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Woes: Hello. And welcome back to millenniyule 2021. And I’m now here with the lovely PhilosophiCat. Hello. And welcome to Millennial. I think this is the third time you’ve been on?

PhilosophiCat: Yes it is. Three years running. So thank you so much for including me again in this wonderful holiday tradition of yours. And I’m very excited to be on the first day of the season.

Woes: Thank you very much.

PhilosophiCat: It’s nice I’m chatting with you!

Woes: I thought it would be, it’s usually quite a nice sort of laid-back relaxed chat with you. So I thought it would be nice to start with. Because I know that I’m not even in a good, … I was so nervous about Millenniyule, that I actually, I think I only got three hours sleep last night.

PhilosophiCat: Oh no!

Woes: Yeah, it’s quite a nerve-wracking thing, because I hadn’t live streamed in a year. So it’s strange. And, of course, it’s now a new platform. It’s Odysee. So it’s all a bit different. Oh! And that reminds me. I just did a stream with the Golden One, and I forgot to answer the Superchats, or forgot to put them to the Golden One. So I apologize for that.

Someone actually thought that the streams were pre-recorded. Not at all! This is completely live. So anyway, here we are with PhilosophiCat. And I don’t think, … Well do you want to introduce yourself briefly, just in case anyone disgustingly doesn’t know about you already!

PhilosophiCat: How dare they not know about me! [chuckling] I’m kidding! Yeah there probably are some people who aren’t familiar with me, even though I’ve been on for a few years. I’m sure you’ve picked up a few new subscribers since then, especially with your move to Odysee.

So yes, I’m philosophicat. I have a YouTube channel and an Odysee channel that mirrors from YouTube. I mainly do a series on Julius Evola’s, Revolt Against the Modern World. But sometimes I put up other stuff as well. I’ve got, you know, Twitter, and Telegram.

And kind of been branching out into a little bit more astrology lately with my AstrologiCat channel on Telegram, as well. I may eventually get around to doing some videos on that subject.

But at the moment Julius Evola’s has kind of been my thing. And that’s been my main focus now for the last, going on two years, I want to say.

Woes: Yeah. That seems about right. And I mean, you and I have chatted quite a lot over the last two years with the lockdown, the Great Reset, Covid. And it’s a massive interest to me. And I know it’s of interest here as well. And great concern. Because we have watched from different parts of the world, we’ve watched everything unfold and it has been quite an experience, quite nerve-wracking. Quite disturbing! [chuckling]

PhilosophiCat: Very!

Woes: So would you like to talk about that. I know we must have talked about it last year. But do you have any additional thoughts this year?

PhilosophiCat: You know, I recall that we did talk about it last year. But my concern last year had been that everybody else’s focus was going to be on like:

“Oh my god! It’s so horrible! What happened!”

And analyzing the creeping authoritarianism, and dystopia. You and I took a bit of a different tack I think he talked more about how to cope with it in a healthy way. And hopefully that helps some people last year. And hopefully it continues to help them, this year. Because there seems to be no end in sight! What can you do? Just roll with it. But yeah.

Woes: Well, as I was just saying with the Golden One, it sort of up ended a lot of assumptions that people had about society. Being a citizen in the 21st century. It’s interesting because, and this is stuff that I’ve been analyzing throughout this year in my own weekly show.

We were, you know, we grew up in a similar time that in the 90s, the 2000s, and the 2010s. And it’s all throughout that there was this sense of individualism, liberty, libertine, and then licence. And all that. And just being a consumer.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah.

Woes: And that seems to have changed. And I would never have predicted that! And yeah it’s now giving way to a sort of artificial collectivism. And the idea of liberty, the idea of being an individual, it seems to be falling away now. Which I find fascinating. I don’t know would you have anything to say about that?

PhilosophiCat: Yeah, I think the individualism is kind of falling away from people. In one of two ways. Either it’s causing them to sort of wake up to the globalist lies and become more nationalistic, and understand the value of that. And that’s more of a healthy type of collectivism.

But I think the majority of people are kind of going to the opposite extreme, and falling into the collectivism of just being an NPC. And letting the government and the media do their thinking for them so that they don’t have to be a real person.

And that’s very different than when you look to individualism within a context of nationalism, where there is still room to be an individual person and, you know, pursue your own unique potential within a collective that is supportive of that. Whereas with these NPCs, they’re all just like:

“No. Conform! Be an interchangeable cog! There’s no room for you to be a real person!”

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Woes: Yeah! And the memes have been hilarious! I mean, the NPCs, … Morgoth posted a thing on Telegram a few days ago, a few weeks ago, about how the NPC meme had inadvertently revealed something about the human condition that we didn’t really recognize before. And so that’s why it hasn’t died. That’s why the meme has persisted and evolved. And been used in all sorts of new contexts. Because it’s frighteningly true.

I think there’s a limit to how useful it is to castigate people for being NPCs, whatever you want. I hate the term “sheeple”, but, you know whatever. Because I think it might just be the way most people are, and the way most people have to be. Because it’s possible that you cannot have a cohesive functioning society if everyone is like you and me! [Laughter]

PhilosophiCat: Yea! Might be a little too [chuckling] individualistic then!

Woes: Yeah, ironically! And that is the idea, …

PhilosophiCat: You’re too artistic [Laughter]!

Woes: Possibly! Very possibly! But really, is that people like you and me are advocating a certain type of collectivism. But in order to do that, we have had to be very rebellious, very individualistic. So it’s a weird irony about all of this.

But anyway to get into what you want to talk about. Which is spirituality, and well, okay, let’s get into that. I think a lot of people nowadays don’t really know what even that term refers to. I mean, a cliche about our time, our age, is:

“Well I’m not religious. But I am spiritual.”

And it’s a sort of mocking cliche. It’s an excuse for someone who can’t be bothered joining a religion. But they want the sort of gravitas of it. But obviously there is much more to spiritualism. And awareness of spiritual health greatly precedes the age of atheism. So, you take it away.

PhilosophiCat: Well, look. There’s a big difference, and a big gap, between spirituality and religion. And there can be some overlap but often there’s not. I would maybe consider myself one of those, you know, spiritual, but not religious, people. Not in the sense of how it’s normally taken one of these kind of new age, woo-woo, hippie types, who’s just all about the feels. And just their idea of spirituality is like the emotionality they get from larping!

Woes: Yes.

PhilosophiCat: And it’s a very, what they’re seeking, is a very downward transcendence, that isn’t, … I mean, I don’t want to put anybody down if there are people listening who are involved in that and it’s meaningful to them. But it’s not directing you towards anything higher. It’s really just kind of going down into the subterranean, … Yeah, that’s a kind of transcendence. It takes you out of the profane world in a way. But you’re almost going in the wrong direction.

Now, for some people you can kind of, like a roller coaster, you go down. And then you get the momentum to go up. But that often doesn’t happen.

So from my perspective when I’m talking about, well, I’m spiritual but not religious, my view is that there isn’t a religion in the modern world that really has all the answers. They’re all corrupted to some extent. They’re not really offering what it is that I’m looking for.

But I can see that there’s truth and wisdom to be found in all of them, to greater, or lesser degrees. And I can appreciate it for what it is. But ultimately I feel like my journey is to just seek my own path for now.

Maybe I change my mind later in the future. I don’t know. I haven’t explored every religion in depth. I could be wrong.

Woes: Yeah. I mean, I didn’t want to, I didn’t mean to put you on the defensive, or, ….

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PhilosophiCat: No! No! I was just, …

Woes: No. I just want to make be clear. I wasn’t mocking you, or anything. It’s just there’s a cliche of the sort of shallow modern person who says they’re not religious. But they are spiritual.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah.

Woes: But the reason it’s a shame that’s a cliche is that there are people who genuinely have looked into this stuff and would honestly say that about themselves. And I think you’re one of those people.

So, … I’ll ask you, what is the “spirit”? I mean, let’s actually start at that level. Because, I mean, obviously people now are very scientific, scientistic! We talk about molecules and, you know, organs, biology, what is the spirit?

PhilosophiCat: Look, … You’re then broaching this big topic, that is, … The spiritual realm is outside the realm of the material world. It’s not physical. It’s metaphysical. And so the more that you try to pin it down with some kind of accurate language, the further away you get from the truth of it, because it’s meant to be experienced, and not described.

And this is one of the problems that I have with a lot of modern religions is there’s this attempt to approach the spiritual from a very rational and empirical perspective, or a very dogmatic and ideological perspective. Where there’s kind of like saying:

“Well, this is what you should believe, because someone else said so.”

And they’re not really providing a pathway through which you can experience that yourself. And it’s that experiential knowledge that is going to further you on that path.

Woes: Right. So, … But I take all of that on board. And it’s all worthwhile. But to return to the question of what is the “spirit”?

PhilosophiCat: It depends, I guess, on how you’re asking about it. Can you clarify your terminology first? And then I can go from there. Because I don’t want to assume what you’re trying to convey.

Woes: I’m not trying to convey. I’m trying to clarify. If we talk about spirituality, spiritualism, spiritual health, then we have to know what is the spirit that we’re talking about.

PhilosophiCat: Okay. I see, right. So obviously spirituality deals with things of a divine, or transcendent nature. And in order to have contact with that you need to have developed, you know, something of a “spirit” within you. Some people would call this the “soul”. We don’t need to get into the semantics over the difference of that right now. It would be a really spergy topic [chuckling] to be honest! Let’s try to keep the autism away here today [loud laughing]! Because I know you’ve got guests coming on who are probably far more spergy than me! So I’ll try to spare your audience.

Woes: You’re not [chuckling] going to take them on! You’re not going to try to have a sperg on! [Laughter]

PhilosophiCat: I know I won’t win! And I don’t want to play the game if I can’t win! I don’t know if that’s a prize I want to win.

But let’s just for the sake of argument. And just to keep things simple, talk about the spirit in terms of what most people would say is the soul. And there is, … You’re not just, in my opinion, you’re not just born with this eternal consciousness, right? Now you’re born with part of you this animating force that is eternal.

But in terms of having a real spirit that can ascend and become something more and break out of the bonds of materiality, in this kind of samsaric cycle of illusion, that we’re all stuck in. You know, that’s something you have to cultivate. And that means developing an inner life. It means developing the capacity for that experiential knowledge that we just talked about.

I think this is something that is really important, especially in the modern age right now. This is kind of the one topic that everybody’s sort of leaving out when they talk about solutions to problems.

And the reason I say that, and you’re feel free to disagree. But if you give up your faith, you give up your foothold. And in the darkest of times, which quite possibly are coming, given the way things are going, there’s not going to be some logical argument that can be presented to you to keep your spirituality through those times.

So it is really important to cultivate it now, so it’s strong enough to see you through. And I think some people would say that like:

“Oh well, if things are going to get that bad, then isn’t it kind of just giving up to focus on spirituality?”

And I would say, no. Because part of the reason that this is so important, is, because spiritual people, historically, they fight the hardest! They’re the most daring adversaries! Whereas nihilist and atheists generally don’t fight hard for anything, because they don’t believe in anything!

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Woes: Of course! I mean, I can’t imagine, … This is the whole thing about, would anyone fight in a war nowadays for Britain, or for America? I mean, I don’t think they have loyalty to their countries anymore, then they have love of their country, most people. But also they don’t have religion. So what they have is the question of:

“Well, I could stay here and be comfortable and be a consumer, or I could go off and risk everything and possibly get killed. Why would I do that?”

PhilosophiCat: Exactly!

Woes: So there’s no rationale for it then.

PhilosophiCat: Exactly! So when you think about what might be coming, you are going to have two options. You can either just give in to the despair and say:

“This is just a desperate, doomed situation. And there’s nothing I can do. So I may as well just watch porn and become a coomer until the apocalypse happens!”

Or you can pour yourself into a spiritual life cultivate that inner strength within you. You know, meditation, or whatever, for example, that’s a tool that strengthens the mind the way that exercise strengthens the body. And it makes your mind into a tool and a weapon, in the same way exercising your muscles makes your body into a tool and a weapon.

So if we’ve got a big fight coming, you’re going to need both of those things. You’re going to need a strong body, and a strong mind to get through it.

I think a lot of people, especially in the West, where atheism and nihilism is just so prevalent. A lot of these people are going to be psychologically broken as this whole crisis wears on. Many people were psychologically broken within the first few months of it! And here we are two years on with no end in sight!

Woes: And that’s what I’ll be talking about with the next guest, Mark Malone. He’s very much into that aspect of it. He thinks that, I think it’s within two, it’s either two, or three months, people are in a state of brainwashing. So that surprised me. But that’s what he’s going to be talking about. Like how it took hold, how it was done. But anyway!

So, well, within that that context, what I would say about this, is that why people don’t address this, is in this age it’s easy to assume that any talk of the spirit, spirituality, it’s just woo-woo! I mean, you’ll remember the heyday of the new atheists. Richard Dawkins.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah.

Woes: And they’re still, these guys are still saying that kind of vacuous drivel now, 10, 15 years later!

PhilosophiCat: I’ve seen some of Dawkin’s tweets. And they’re [chuckling] just, they’re so bad!

Woes: It’s just they’re so awful! They’re so shallow. I mean, it’s like an edgy 15 year old. But I think he’s about 70, or 80 now.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah! I look at them. And I think. Like, if I was like 18, 19 whatever, I would have thought that saying something like that was really cool! And now I’m like:

“Yeah, no you probably should have grown out of that by now.”

Woes: Yeah, exactly! I think they’re part of the modern nihilism, and well atheism, is a certain person, type of person, has emerged who delights in their being no god! No afterlife! You just die! That’s it!

There are people who really revel in that! And then look down on other people who yearn for something else, for something more than just materialism. I mean, you see this all the time with Dawkin’s wreckage of [word unclear] and that that type! I really dislike them.

Because to me it’s a really beautiful aspect of human nature, is the religious impulse. And the desire to escape the physical, the material, the desire for something more than this.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah.

Woes: And so when they mock that, I really think that’s a very nasty thing. I think it’s a very low thing.

PhilosophiCat: It’s a low vibe thing. And I think people who are drawn to that are, you know, they tend not to be people who have lived well! They’re generally not particularly virtuous people. They’re not inspiring people. And if that’s how you’re going to live, then why would you want to believe in an afterlife where those things actually matter?

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Woes: Yeah, yeah.

PhilosophiCat: So in some ways it’s very self-serving for people like that to believe such a thing. If they were to become spiritual, or even just religious, they would have to change their outlook on life, and their own behaviours, and thoughts. And that would probably be a little bit difficult.

Woes: Well yes. Especially, because of the age we live in they would have no apparatus with which to address those questions. I mean, they would be a fish out of water. Whereas as if they stay in this:

“Oh! Oh! God’s a lot of rubbish! The flying spaghetti monster!”

If they stay in that arena, then they know how to handle it. And they can seem clever. Which is, …

PhilosophiCat: Yes. Which is, it’s the opposite of being spiritual when you are that invested in your own ego. And this is maybe part of the problem, because even people who are religious tend to still be very materialist. In the sense that I don’t get the impression that they truly believe in something beyond this world. It’s kind of, it’s just something they do on Sunday mornings. And maybe they like certain platitudes and cliches that inspire them, or make them feel good in some way.

But they don’t come across as particularly spiritual in terms of just really being in touch with themselves, and being in touch with the divine on a regular basis.

And I can’t fault them for that, because none of these religions really provide that pathway. And so then you’ve got these cringy 70 year old atheists making fun of religion. And part of me can kind of see where they’re coming from.

Woes: Yeah. I mean, I don’t really have much experience to draw on here. But I would wonder whether we get back to the issue of the conformist and the outsider. Because it might well be that these religions don’t provide that kind of thing, because most people just don’t need it. What they need is just to be told:

“Here’s what god wants you to do. Here’s what god expects of you.”

PhilosophiCat: Well for most people that’s sufficient, because most people are NPCs. And they don’t really have that impulse for more. So all that they really need is just something to kind of keep them away from sin, or making major mistakes in their life. So that they’re at least they’re maybe not good people. But they’re at least not bad people!

Woes: Yes. Exactly! And yeah that’s fine. There’s nothing wrong with that. I don’t think we should be too picky, if that’s what works for the vast majority of the public, then that’s probably what the Church, and whatever else, should be providing.

The issue is that it does leave them vulnerable to people like the new atheists, who can just mock all of the doctrine, and the rituals, and stuff. And then the religious person cannot defend it, because he just doesn’t understand. I mean, even when called upon to defend this stuff, he can’t do it.

PhilosophiCat: Well, he’s trying to defend the spiritual with something material! He’s trying to defend god and his beliefs with rationality and empiricism. But these things are outside of that realm!

Woes: See I think this is what breaks, …

PhilosophiCat: You’re trying to measure something that’s not measurable!

Woes: Yeah, I think this is what Brideshead Revisited is about, I don’t know, if you’ve ever read that, or seen the TV series. But the main character starts it, and it says:

“Set in the 20s, and the 30s.”

Like 100 years ago, obviously. Not now [chuckling]! That would be very strange! And the main character starts it as one of these smug atheists who is deriding Christianity, and Catholicism. But by the end of the novel he’s converted to Catholicism! [chuckling] So it’s really [chuckling] quite, … It’s quite funny! The way that it happens.

And, you know, one summary of that, is that it’s about the operation of god’s grace upon an individual throughout his life. Which I thought was a nice summary.

But yeah. And at one point he’s mocking. He said:

“Well, what’s the priest for, if he’s just a conduit! A conduit between the believer and the divine. But the believer can have a direct relationship with the divine. Then what’s the point of the priest?”

Yeah, this kind of stuff. Sort of pedantic nitpicking. The kind of stuff that I have suffered, and many others have suffered from the centrists on YouTube, in past years. Where they pick up on some silly thing like that, and think they’re clever. It’s amazing how, well, yeah, let’s not get into that.

I think I was going to talk about the “midwit” thing [chuckling]! We don’t need to get into that!

I think in the notes that we made beforehand you wanted to talk about how conservatism, how the Right has reacted to the vacuum left by Christianity. And the atheistic age.

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PhilosophiCat: Well I wouldn’t necessarily say reacting to a vacuum left by religion. But that does actually, I think play a role into the habitual reactionaryism of the Right, because when you’re lacking that spiritual impulse and you’re looking for meaning you’re going to find that somewhere to latch on to. Now there are plenty of causes in life that you could take up some more spiritual than others but we all kind of go looking for them to a greater, or lesser extent now the Right has this problem of a tactical lag where they tend to pick up issues that are already irrelevant by the time they’ve picked them up. And I mean, that this is probably going to be unpopular to say. But I hope people will hear me out I don’t want to upset anybody just keep an open mind. There are certain issues on the Right that we probably need to de-emphasize in our conversations and I think. One of those is the issue of White replacement this is still a critical issue in homogeneous countries and they should still fight that fight but in places where White births are now the minority the demographic ship has unfortunately already sailed and continuing to fight yesterday’s battle especially these yesterday’s battles that have already been lost at the expense of failing to look ahead in the future and plan strategies for what’s to come, rather than what already was, you know. And an example of that is just the appalling response of many of these leading figures on the right to properly respond to this issue of medical tyranny. Because a lot of them were still too busy looking at this lost demographic battle, or engaging in all manner of intellectual masturbation on the internet. And so they didn’t see this great threat of globalist authoritarianism masquerading as a pandemic. So in this sense the Right isn’t even reactionary. But I would like to maybe coin the term delayed reactionary like, because of this tendency to focus on these already lost battles instead of the ones we can still fight and there’s like there seems to be this huge reluctance on the right to let go of these old issues there’s this strong emotional attachment to it.

Woes: Well which I get it.

PhilosophiCat: I mean, I can understand that very much. But we do need to be focused on current and relevant issues and issues that we can still win. And when you have this endless focus on what are now essentially lost causes. And I don’t want to say that to be blackpilling to anybody but I’m just trying to be realistic and pragmatic here this uses a mental bandwidth that most people just don’t have and sure demographics are important there’s value in making people aware of it and telling the truth about these issues. But I kind of liken it to arguing about the civil war like it might be true that the south was treated unfairly and history has lied about it. But it’s irrelevant now we can’t go back in time and win the civil war I mean.

Woes: Like I remember talking to someone in British nationalism an older person and I used the term some we were talking about gay rights, or something, and I mentioned the gay pride festival sort of thing how, you know how degenerate it is when they’re doing this stuff on the street and all this. And I said:

“Yeah I said gay pride and this older person said gay why do you call them gay they’re queer call them cool and it’s like.

PhilosophiCat: I don’t like the way that word sounds.

Woes: I don’t know I don’t like either. But I also thought that battle was lost in the battle for the word queer, or gay was lost like 60 years ago. And it really just doesn’t matter anymore I mean, yeah you can say [30:00] gay actually means happy but no, it doesn’t anymore it just doesn’t so just [] move on for god’s sake is its that’s an example of these sort of past battles which and part of.

PhilosophiCat: It’s just spurginess like to be honest part of it is just the Right’s tendency towards spurginess but, you know. What we need to be doing now instead of looking a decade behind us is looking a decade ahead to what’s going to be happening post Great Reset and understand that everything they’ve already done to us was designed to break down society so that they could do to us what they are doing now and the relevance of talking about demographic issues should probably now be in the context of the idea that the places where racial and national identity was most broken down have ultimately been the weakest links against this New World Order. And I think the time has probably come to kind of ally with anybody who stands against this global tyranny. Because I think people of every race can agree that multiculturalism was bad for their societies and allowed for this kind of a takeover.

Woes: Yeah. And also that even applies to the newcomers in European societies who clearly don’t. I mean, they’re obviously not happy here. And it’s just obvious. They know that they don’t really belong here it’s I mean, even saying that I’m worrying about the hate speech laws. But it’s obviously true.

PhilosophiCat: Well, look,

Woes: If it weren’t the case, then they wouldn’t be moaning about White privilege and all the rest of it.

PhilosophiCat: Look it’s hard to live in a country that’s not yours in a culture that’s not yours I say that as somebody who’s lived in multiple countries. And even when I was living in other White countries that were not the countries that I grew up and I wasn’t familiar with it I didn’t feel like I fit in there it was hard it was a challenge. And if you’re not born there. And you don’t grow up in its just never going to feel like a comfortable fit generally speaking. And the greater the distance between you and your adopted culture and nation, the harder that is. And the more stressful it is. But, you know, our people are all mixed up in different countries now. And it’s going to be pretty hard to undo that it may not really be possible.

Woes: Well, what I was going to say is that everyone has been tricked and we’ve all been tricked it’s very easy for us to be angry at, you know, black people who commit a lot of crime. Pakistanis who do a lot of child grooming especially of White children. I mean, it’s a very natural impulse to think various things which I’m not going to say on air just. As if they were violated by our group they would recognize that group reality the breach. So it’s a very natural thing and also there is just the as you said, the dislocation, the sensor. So I think everyone was tricked in one way, or another here. But we were told don’t worry the demographics won’t change very much don’t worry the culture won’t change very much and then multiculturalism is a real an unfortunate reality diversity is our strength, you know, multiculturalism is a gift that you should be glad of and then, like most recently your own culture is awful and your own culture doesn’t even exist. And now with the Great Reset, or the Covid age we seem to be moving into another age which is just there is no culture really there is only consumerism.

PhilosophiCat: Right. And that was the end goal. And so focusing on these issues of multiculturalism and diversity I mean, what’s done is done, you know, where can we put the brakes on how can we stop this slide into the metaverse, or whatever it is they’re trying to sell us next.

Woes: Yeah. I mean, just before we go on I should say there are people in the live chat there are some people reacting very vociferously to what you I’m saying.

PhilosophiCat: I’m sure they are. And I can completely understand why they would.

Woes: Yeah and I understand. As well, you know, it is a it’s such an annoying thing to hear someone say it sounds like a defeatist attitude.

PhilosophiCat: Well no, I’m trying to prevent the opposite of that. So let me clarify. The only issue that matters right now is this is uniting against this medical tyranny. This New World Order this Great Reset. Because, if we lose on this issue we lose on everything else too, because this one is for all the marbels. If you ever want to be able to fight your demographic battles again we have to first unite and get rid of these oligarchs that are trying to destroy us all. Then we can go back to our petty demographic squabbles we can go back to reclaiming our homelands. I mean, I don’t get to live in the country that I was born in that I want to live in, you know, [35:00] I wish I could and I can’t, because of these people so I get it I totally get it I would love to go back and live where I want to live.

Woes: Yeah, I think the key issue here is we are seeing the start of our level of tyranny that we have. None of us in the West have ever lived through, or our parents, or our grandparents. So this is something new and something that we are going to have to come to grips with. Because, as you say, if this does come to pass if it is fully implemented rebellion on any other issue especially like demographics will be completely impossible.

PhilosophiCat: What are you going to do complain that your gulag isn’t all your same race and ethnicity yeah we’re crying out loud!

Woes: The thing is I’ve said this before I am when I tried to communicate with Twitter three years ago the let the emails back from them would be signed Twitter. And I think so you’re up against an entire monolith it’s not a human being it’s an entirely.

PhilosophiCat: No it’s this hulking leviathan.

Woes: And I re bring this up. Because I think exactly it is and I bring this up. Because I think that’s the sort of relationship between the individual and the citizen and the state that we’re now going to that is going to be brought in where you don’t send a fucking chance against that, because there is no human at the other side it’s just someone who’s maybe someone who’s pressed a button to send that default email, or it’s maybe even an algorithm, because it doesn’t from their point of view they don’t need to take you seriously.

PhilosophiCat: No they haven’t lost like they have all the power why would they suddenly stop what they’re doing and say oh gee, you know, I think we’ve made people suffer enough we’ll go back to how things were! They’re not going to do that and people need to emotionally accept this I don’t mean to sound, you know, harsh, or overly critical, because I know people are emotionally struggling with this change in their reality it was very sudden and even for myself as somebody who’s kind of watched for well over a decade and expected something like this at some point in my lifetime I didn’t anticipate it to come like this, or as quickly as it did, or as soon as it did. Very few very few of us would have expected that so, you know, there is a bit of a grieving period that people need to go through. And there is a bit of a period where people need to kind of let go of some of those emotional attachments. And that includes emotional attachments to old ideological issues it’s more important now to just stand side by side with anyone who will oppose this leviathan and do what we can to kind of stop it, or reverse it. And I don’t want people to be like well that’s defeat us, because no we can we do still have a chance to potentially win on this issue. And this is why I said before, that spirituality is so important, because you won’t win without that you won’t have the fighting spirit if you don’t have that and you won’t have the mental fortitude to withstand the pressure that’s going to come in the future if things were to get much, much worse how many people would crumble how many good fighters would we lose just because they weren’t psychologically strong enough to get through this. And. It’s really just a question of well we need to survive what do we. What’s. The best way to do that? Now, I don’t think that everything’s completely lost and this kind of brings me to kind of the a sister topic to this which is the sort of Left-wing reactionarism that we’re starting to see. And I think this is a really positive sign I’ve noticed this mostly on Twitter. But I don’t talk to. A lot of these people in real life for obvious reasons. But I have noticed this interesting trend where the Left is increasingly being forced to take on and defend these very indefensible positions and they’re switching now into becoming reactionary themselves. One example of this would be how we so often now find them defending paedophilia of all things which you any normal person would be like how could you defend that and still think that you look good doing that to normal people. But they’re fine they’re now finding the issues that they take up based on what the Right says about them. And I think this indicates a shift that is maybe it’s subtle for now but very significant. Because the Left has always had a really clear I they’ve had this really clear idea of what their ideology is and the Right has always reacted to that the Right reacts to what the Left says, or does we’re often defining ourselves in opposition to what the Left says and does. And now the Left is taking up these indefensible positions, because they’re flailing and [40:00] they’re reacting. And, you know, an example of that would be like recently on Twitter Donald Trump Jr was kind of trolling the Democrats regarding this issue of voter IDs and saying oh well the unvaccinated shouldn’t be allowed to vote and when the Left agreed they were sort of forced to argue in favour of voter IDs. And this is straight out of olinsky’s Rules for Radicals you make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.

Woes: Right.

PhilosophiCat: Which they used to do to us they used to do that to us they used to force the right to defend the most ridiculous and cringy things like Nazism and things that no normal person is ever going to agree with. But now we do the same to them by forcing them to defend paedophiles and the average person looks at this and they’re absolutely disgusted and horrified by the Left. So if you can force your opponent to defend the most extreme parts of their ideology you can take them out onto a really thin rope.

Woes: Absolutely. I think olinsky’s Rules for Radicals is something that we should be studying a lot.

PhilosophiCat: Absolutely. And yeah. I mean, why not use their own weapons against them like the Left is really good at alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. Because to do those requires you to really have no integrity no moral scruples no principles. It’s all about how do we win and get power and the Right tends to come from a perspective being like well these principles matter. And we have to play by the rules. And we need to be virtuous about this that’s not politics like that’s how you lose in politics. And this is why I don’t like being involved in politics anymore, because I just find it very dirty. But it is nice to see this shift. And I think when you can call the Left out on their own hypocrisy like that it doesn’t really require the right to compromise their own values. And this allows us to kind of make up for some of this tactical lag that the Right has always suffered from that has always prevented us from being able to go on the offence. So this is kind of a sign of which way the winds are blowing. And I think the Right really needs to take advantage of this while it’s still young and new.

Woes: Yeah and I just want to get back to you, because obviously what you said earlier is very controversial. And some people so one person has summarized your position she’s saying join with diversity to win ergo she’s saying diversity is our strength.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah I can understand all right come on.

Woes: She’s not saying that for god’s sake get real.

PhilosophiCat: Well I can understand why. Some people might think that I’m not saying that you need to marry and have kids with these people. I’m just saying you shake hands call a truce for now and go join against our common enemy that is currently in a much more stronger and powerful position than our group, or that group, or that group right. This is to everybody’s advantage it kind of reminds me of how the native Americans were so busy fighting amongst themselves that they didn’t just unite against the collective threat of like White settlers, you know, now they complain that oh White people took our land and stuff. It’s like, well you guys were too busy killing each other.

Woes: Yeah.

PhilosophiCat: History could have gone very differently had they not done that.

Woes: Yeah. And that is… I mean, this is our reality of the current situation that it’s not nice. I mean, I understand why people. And the thing is you and I more than most people have in the past devoted our saying well yeah devoted ourselves to racial identity as some you might say I don’t know what term you would want to use. So it’s not like this is probably these days.

PhilosophiCat: No term they’re all so bad.

Woes: Yeah that also poison that. But it’s not as if you and I are mocking people who take these positions what. Well, what you’re saying. And what I’m probably. I mean, I’m sympathetic with is we have to be realistic we have to work from where we actually are not from where we would like to be and something that we would like to be the only issue that really matters. Unfortunately something else has been brought in that really matters.

PhilosophiCat: It Trump’s this I don’t I kind of take the position that Andrew Anglin takes that this really is the only issue that matters right now and for now that is true that could change in the future. Taking this up as your primary issue. And the most important issue doesn’t mean that you have to stop caring about the other things, or that those things are no longer important. But if you’re one of the people in the chat who’s upset about this and you’re upset, because your main your main issue is that well you want your people to survive your people aren’t going to survive if [45:00] we don’t defeat this common enemy your people are not going to survive in a gulag your country is not going to survive and your culture is not going to survive they’ll bring in Mark Zuckerberg’s Mark Zuckerberg’s metaverse. And that will be your reality, you know, there will there will be no more of this stuff that you all are claiming to care about. So if you want to preserve that. And you want to have a fighting chance to save those things then this is the issue that has to be tackled. First and foremost. Because otherwise you’re going to be living as like some unvaccinated diaspora around the world with no political power no homeland and, you know, hoping you can have a few babies that might survive and stay out of the gulag themselves. And it’s going to be a very hard life. So that’s not the life that I want for my kids, or grandkids. And I’m sure that’s not the life that anybody in the chat would want for their descendants. So I’m not saying this from a place of defeatism, or not caring about what happens to our people, or any other people like I don’t have any animosity towards other races either. And I’m sure they would all like to survive just as much as we do. And most of them don’t like multiculturalism either. So let’s point let’s put the blame where it belongs the oligarchs who have done this to all of us who have lied to all of us who have sold us this cultural poison over the last few decades and work together to get back the things we all want which is our own homelands our own cultures our own people.

Woes: Yeah yeah, sorry.

PhilosophiCat: I’m happy to take other comments from people in the chat if they want more clarification on this, or they’re feeling particularly strongly about anything I said I am kind of just speaking off the top of my head here so I do apologize my words haven’t been measured enough, or are coming off no, you know, overly harsh.

Woes: Listen listen listen this is an issue that we have to confront the people who like you and me we have to grasp this nettle. And we have to find ways to analyze it and articulate it. Because the people that we talk to the people who listen to us are not going to its something that a lot of them are not going to like to hear.

PhilosophiCat: No. And I think the psychology of that is very similar to the people who thought that taking the jab would buy them their freedom, because it was too emotionally and psychologically uncomfortable for them to accept the reality of this tyranny that’s coming into our lives unopposed.

Woes: Yeah,

PhilosophiCat: It’s scary it is.

Woes: Yeah it certainly is. Somebody’s asking why does she think that White people are incapable of winning on their own now see. This is what I mean, I understand White people are great the White race has achieved a great deal it’s very impressive it’s got compassion creativity high IQ all. The rest of it. But it’s well can’t do you want to what we.

PhilosophiCat: We do have a lot of great things about our people collectively. There are certain traits and virtues that our bio-spirit has produced, you know. But there are also other traits that are not so advantageous in this current climate including being extremely trusting. This tendency to trust authority to trust each other to trust the government to trust the media to trust the science now, you know, this I could give a whole talk on how White people’s lack of spirituality has resulted in them becoming too enamored of messians that’s a big part of the problem.

Woes: I would also mention I was up in Scotland a couple of months ago and there it’s much more homogeneous, you know, demographically than where I usually live. And yet and the adherence to covert restrictions is much greater there than it is down here. And I think that’s, because of the racial homogeneity. I think that it’s much harder to police a multicultural. And that’s not to say that multiculturalism is good, or whatever I’m just noting it as an interesting byproduct part of what has made White people so vulnerable to the whole covert thing is that they are so trusting of authority and their own institutions they assume that their society is benign that their institutions are doing. What they should be doing.

PhilosophiCat: Because that’s what we evolved to expect and nobody trusts the government.

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Woes: Yeah exactly. And then that also links to what happened recently in the Netherlands where the these and Morgoth again brought this up that the riots against the Covid stuff it seemed to be they seemed to be foreigners it didn’t seem to be Dutch people who were rebelling against that.

PhilosophiCat: Well in America apparently African-Americans have the lowest vaccination rate in the country.

Woes: Yes the same in Britain.

PhilosophiCat: Because they don’t trust the government and why should they especially, you know, whether they believe this rightly, or wrongly they’ve been taught in schools and through the media that the government has been racist and historically oppressive against them. So why would they now trust the government if. That’s what they believe.

Woes: Yeah, well.

PhilosophiCat: White people what White people don’t realize is the government has also been pretty oppressive to us in some ways. And we shouldn’t trust them either.

Woes: Yeah they’ve been lying to us for 17 well for a long time very long time. But they don’t know that the White public and now, I want to emphasize what I just said there about the Netherlands I’m not therefore saying that means that refugees are actually great. Because they’ll help us against Covid and.

PhilosophiCat: No that doesn’t mean that it’s a wonderful thing. But they’re saying this is the reality the reality is that these people are in our countries. And they can be leveraged against the same enemy that brought them there in the first place. I mean, use the tools you have at your disposal don’t be so ideologically possessed. And so and get stuck into this Fergie purity spiraling that you’re not willing to work with somebody who can be helpful to you. Now when the media smears these anti-lockdown, or anti-mandatory backs rallies as being far-Right neo-Nazis it’s a lot harder for them to do that when half the crowd is, you know, brown, or black.

Woes: Yeah. That’s true that is true it’s an. I mean, I think that the issue really is just power. Because, if you have power you can basically just declare. You can just write the narrative. You can just say. Yeah, okay it looks like it’s fairly diverse but actually it’s far-Right. You can just declare it. And people will believe.

PhilosophiCat: Well we see this attempt to redefine now what far-Right means and all far-Right means now is someone who doesn’t support the globalist narrative. That’s all it means yeah.

Woes: And I remember noting this in 2019, because it’s interesting. Because I know that I absolutely didn’t predict coved and all this but in 2019 there was a sense of that we were like the cam before the storm there was a sense that things are in flux and what one of them one of the aspects of it was that it’s a sort of vague situation and anyway, yeah I want to get back to the these quick, because there have been quite a lot of Superchats posted so here are all right okay I’ll just get them, because we have been going for nearly an hour now and we haven’t should we get should we return to, I think we should do the Superchats at the end and return to what we, you know, our plan for this chat.

PhilosophiCat: It’s entirely up to you I’m flexible.

Woes: Yeah we did we’re going to mention Jordan Peterson.

PhilosophiCat: Oh yes a great example of what we were just talking about no.

Woes: Yeah, well yeah go into that explain that.

PhilosophiCat: I mean, Jordan Peterson is an example of like he let’s just look at his utter failure to recognize the tyranny right in front of him. He took the jab he thought it would buy his freedom he complains endlessly on Twitter now that it didn’t he was just doing it right before I came on this stream even. None of his years of education and study on the subject of tyrannical prepared him to see happening right in front of him the most tyrannical move in history and he fell for it now at least he admits now that he was duped but he’s still you can tell he still isn’t really coming to grips with this, because he’s still continuing to complain well I don’t understand why I have to take this expensive test in quarantine to come back to my own country, because I’m double jabbed. And I have natural immunity. And it’s like stop freaking legitimizing! The narrative this is like stop being mad that the government isn’t playing by their own rules! That’s what governments do like just get used to it.

Woes: And this is like the cliche of the true believer who’s put up against the wall and he’s like well I obeyed the rules I spread the doctrine why are you killing me?

PhilosophiCat: Exactly.

Woes: It’s tragic. So what would you say [55:00] about Jordan Peterson’s mentality I mean. I do think he’s one of these over socialized academics who’s right just obsessed with being socially accepted and respected by his peers.

PhilosophiCat: That’s one reason. I mean, there are a few reasons I think why he didn’t recognize this why he was duped and why he’s so upset about it so first he’s got this attachment to modern liberal ideology he’s a rationalist ultimately that’s going to lead to a belief in the science. And I mean, rationality is not bad. But it does tend to trap anyone who has no other tools at their disposal like spirituality. Second his fame went to his head his ego overtook him as you were saying this desire train remain popular I would say probably some a lot of peer pressure a desire to remain as part of this in-group of the Intellectual Dark Web they’re all pro-vax pro-globalists. And there’s a lot of worm tongues in that crowd too like Ben Shapiro whispering in his ear and stuff third, as I said, is lack of spirituality. Which I would say, you know. Some people might argue with me on that and be like no no he’s a spiritual person, because he talks it doesn’t matter it’s evident by his statement that he’s repeated several times that he behaves as if god exists. Which says to me that he’s a person who has not had a transcendent experience himself. But his rationality tells him that god could, or should exist. Therefore it’s safer to believe as if that might be true. This is not a spiritual position this is a rationalist position. So I think he wants I think he has an impulse for spirituality. But that modern liberal ideology that he’s really attached to is going to prevent him from finding that. And fourth he’s just fundamentally kind of a weak person. I mean, he loves his antidepressants he comes across as this anxious neurotic fearful person. And this is a sign of someone who has not mastered their mind. We can also see this in the fact that his daughter started calling the shots after his fame kind of broke him down which is a really odd dynamic for a grown man to start letting his daughter direct his life and his public brand. So it’s not entirely surprising that Jordan Peterson would do what he did. But I look at this. And I feel that this is emblematic of kind of our people as a collective and to address what that person said in the chat earlier why would you think that White people can’t solve this on our own this kind of person is why and Jordan Peterson’s just a famous person. But there are thousands just like him out there who aren’t famous millions probably.

Woes: Yeah. I mean, would you say that this is it one thing that always has always struck me about Jordan Peterson is that he is not there’s no masculinity about him he seems almost not just in his high-pitched squeaky voice, but also his sort of prissy body language his way there’s one publicity photo of him in particular which I was surprised I was surprised that he let this one go, because he looks like a sort of like a school head mistress like pressing his lips together and it he’s very feminine he’s there’s a lack of masculine assuredness, or strength, or stability about the guy. And I’m not claiming to be perfect myself. I’m just saying it’s interesting that this is the guy who is offered grooves of young men as a father figure an authority figure.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah you don’t need to be perfect to observe these things and analyze them and I mean, you know, in some ways and analyzing that is maybe helpful for someone who is themselves not perfect so that they can see how they might mirror those things. He does come across as lacking in masculinity and in another time he probably would have been an ascetic who studied in the temples he’s definitely not a warrior type I think we could probably all agree on that he’s an academic he likes his books he likes the mental exercises and what contributes to him not being masculine in that kind of more aesthetic context is his lack of mental mastery and his lack of spiritual gravitas this is what makes him seem so emasculated. And so many people looked up to him as this leader, or they thought of him as a father figure they thought oh he’s someone wise who has all the answers to ease their existential suffering. And then he reveals himself to be this really flawed person well it’s easy to understand why people would project that ascetic archetype onto him [60:00] and subconsciously assume all these things about him that come with that archetype. And then, of course, as he became publicly overexposed and had that very public breakdown the reality was that while he kind of presents himself to be this ascetic type he doesn’t really have the essence the inner essence of what asceticism is. He doesn’t have spirituality he doesn’t have mental mastery and in many ways, as you say, he’s very feminine.

Woes: Yeah, it’s unfortunate and, of course, now we’ve seen this is sort of a culminated at least for now it might have a future even greater culmination. But for now it’s culminated in this that he was duped by the covert stuff and that he just did what he was told and now is in disbelief I find that amazing. I mean, part of it does seem to be the standard northern Europe I think he’s Swedish of ancestry Norwegian something like that northern European desire to be a good person and to do the right thing especially to help other people to keep them safe and to obey authority to obey the authorities of your society. I mean, it’s all very, you know, it’s very tribal, you know, it feels very primal even in this very modern man you see these very tribal tendencies. So you can understand that he just thought well I’ll do the right thing I’ve got it I’ve got to do the Right I’ve got to do what they’re telling me to do.

PhilosophiCat: But that right. But it was a big decision on his part he was he thought that it wasn’t that he thought that he was doing the right thing, but he was afraid. And he thought conformity would get him his freedom back. And if we just do what we’re told. Like this is what shows that he’s lacking the wisdom that people assumed he had, because part of wisdom is seeing things for what they really are and being able to accept that. And as you were saying before work with the reality that we have. And he was unable to see what the reality is he’s unable to work with that. And I mean, he’s a person who has a lot of I guess book learning. I don’t think he’s a bad person I think he’s probably a very kind-hearted man and who genuinely, you know, wanted to help others. And it was just too much for him I wouldn’t mind just sitting down and talking with the guy someday I’m sure he’s a very pleasant person to talk to. But I can kind of sympathize with what happened to him, because when people build you up in their minds as someone who can save them, you know. I can only imagine the pressure he was under and I’m sure, you know, I can kind of sympathize with this I’m sure you can too where people project on to you that you’re this person who can fix their problems just because of your public persona and not really realizing that you’re your own struggles too yeah we’re all learning we’re just at various different stages of learning some of us have learnt different things than others. But I remember talking to waves of that.

Woes: Expect the weight of that expectation and for him that must have been massive.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah. Well, I remember talking to you maybe a couple of years ago, or something you still had your YouTube channel. And I know people used to write you. And they would write you with some really heavy problems, because you were a public figure you had a big channel you seemed like you might know what you were talking about. And then people just like they’re just looking for somebody to help them through this life that they’re suffering with and you, of course, would be suffering with your own problems and didn’t have the emotional space to deal with that. So I can imagine for Jordan Peterson being is even more high profile it was really a lot of pressure. And I can understand why it would crush him. And I think he’s self-aware enough to know that about himself but, you know, at the end of the day, probably he shouldn’t have been so aggressive of over exposing himself like that and building himself up I think it did go to his head a little bit. And now he’s like now he. And for a while he was telling people to go get the jab people who trust him and believe him how many young men got myocarditis, because Jordan Peterson told him to get the jab we’ll never know but maybe there were some.

Woes: Probably there were I mean, statistically it would seem likely. And I wonder what he will advocate about the jab, you know, in future, you know, after this experience, you know, this latest thing I wonder if he’ll continue saying. Yeah, but you should get you should get the first two at least and at least one, or two boosters.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah. I mean, he’s very angry now. Because the government isn’t holding up their end of the bargain by giving back [65:00] freedoms and he’s having a lot of trouble coping with that emotionally as are many people who voluntarily got jabbed thinking that it would allow them to travel, for example.

Woes: Well, indeed. I mean, a year ago that was the promise being made that the vaccine would if not take us back to normal, because they were saying even then that we would never go back to normal and it at least it would enable us to open up our society again and go back to work and start traveling. And all that was absolutely not! Born out.

PhilosophiCat: It was such obvious BS from the start! But you try to tell people this. And they just really wanted to believe that there was a ticket back to freedom. And so they didn’t listen. And now, here we are.

Woes: Yeah, it’s remarkable. I mean, we have seen and this is something that I’ll probably be going into quite a lot in throughout Millennial we’ve seen all of these cliches play out about the false promises from the corrupt tyrants and the shifting of the goal posts the just inventing of evidence the manipulation of data the problem reaction solution, the scapegoating of a particular part of the population, you know, all of this stuff has happened and it’s remarkable that people haven’t seen it I haven’t recognized it, because we were all warned about this stuff, you know, I remember reading studying 1984 at school. And they were saying this is how it happened this is how it starts they demonize a demographic it’s all happening right now! It’s absolutely amazing! Absolutely fucking amazing that this is happening and there are still a majority of people who are yet to realize it I don’t know if they ever will.

PhilosophiCat: No. I think a lot of people. I mean, it the more you’ve invested in a narrative the harder it is to admit you were wrong. This is why you see people doubling down on some really stupid things, because well they’ve already made this big show of believing in getting vaccinated and getting boosters and lockdowns work and the government loves us. And it’s like it’s gonna be hard for them to backtrack from that without losing face and most people are too egotistical to be willing to do that and to say I was wrong so I do give Jordan Peterson a lot of credit for that, because he did publicly state that he was wrong.

Woes: That is laudable okay let’s do the is there anything else that we wanted to go into.

PhilosophiCat: I think nothing that is going to fit within the time that we have. I don’t think so.

Woes: Let’s take your Superchats okay we’ll do the Superchat all right.

PhilosophiCat: You probably have a few on a particular topic so okay yeah let’s give them their airtime.

Woes: Okay I am surrounded by non-Whites in my Belgian city of birth all I see at school is headscarves with many children we’re fucked I’m moving to a White area in the USA so yeah, so well that’s okay I don’t know if there’s much to say about that I’m sorry about that situation I really am.

PhilosophiCat: That’s one that’s one option you can do.

Woes: Yeah it is. And some people will castigate someone for doing that others will say it’s pragmatic it’s you’ve just got to do what you can. Someone else said here’s a little White pill I recently got a religious vaccine exemption from my employer and that’s good that’s someone who’s I know is into Hinduism and Buddhism. And so on, so that’s quite interesting someone else said Mary ewell. Thank you very much thank and thank you for sir Charlton the beast. Thank you for that and yeah, okay that’s great that those were for the Golden One I do apologize that I forgot about the Superchats during that time okay just to find the one okay. Do you think that illiberal thought has any kind of future close to the mainstream evaloa and his elk are unfairly maligned as evil fascists but the vitalism of their thought and it’s track record for inspiring others to speak for themselves ella. Do you think that a liberal thought has any kind of future closer to the mainstream.

PhilosophiCat: It would really require a change in the Constitution of the mass man, you know, thought like evil as, for example, he himself said that he was only writing for the differentiated man not the mass man. We would need to elevate the masses to probably a bit of a higher level of consciousness before they [70:00] could get any value out of that, or understand it, or want to latch onto that. But. It’s always a possibility, you know, who knows what could happen.

Woes: Okay and okay, here we go you’re kind of being naive on the demographic issue have you lived in environments where the administration, or power structure consists entirely of groups hostile to you can win on the epidemic and still lose on the demographics they were harming us even before the pandemic did you forget that.

PhilosophiCat: Well no I didn’t forget that. But I have a lot greater chance for my genetic legacy to survive if I’m not being gulagged. And that’s what they’re planning to do to us I think so as evidence by these camps that they’re building in some countries. And I think that’s the I think that’s the future that they’re planning for those of us who want to remain unvaccinated.

Woes: Yeah and again. This is something that will be explored thoroughly throughout Millennial.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah I’m sure other people have far more to say on that,

Woes: Yeah, and someone else says reasonable people will differ on which and which is the most significant issue, you know, demographics, or Covid. And I think that this is going to be one of the key things. I think it’s well have key schism that’s going to divide the movement is whether people think in Covid, or the demographics of the Great Replacement is the more important thing because, of course.

PhilosophiCat: Well, I have as a I have yet to hear a convincing argument for why demographics should be the primary issue that doesn’t just go back to basically somebody’s feels and their emotional attachment to the issue. There’s not going to be any demographic war to fight if you’re all vaccinated and sterilized all your babies are being born with heart problems, or your wives are having miscarriages, you know, that’s not going to solve the demographic problem.

Woes: No no especially if the immigrant groups remain unvaccinated and thus free.

PhilosophiCat: And keep in mind too that all of this sets a precedent this all sets a precedent for further medical tyranny, because if they can set the precedent to inject you with an experimental gene therapy that you didn’t consent to they can also forcibly sterilize you right. They can forcibly take your organs they can do anything to you bodily sovereignty is like a top-tier issue.

Woes: Yeah. I mean, I could see them saying. Well, there are some people who are born with an attachment to race and racial identity. And we can switch some genes to make sure that they don’t turn out that way. So we’re going to do that for the public good for everyone else’s.

PhilosophiCat: We’re not the ones who have that technology in our power though. So I mean, it could happen. But I don’t see it as being a realistic thing.

Woes: Well okay I would suggest it might well be realistic in the next few decades. And it would be built on the premise of that’s being established now with Covid. Okay can you ask her to address the issue that only White people are fighting this battle and diversity is so far almost entirely unwilling, or uninterested in joining us and someone actually did correct me on the Dutch thing apparently it was originally White people rebelling against covert restrictions. And then the Moroccans. And so on, just joined in, because it was a chance for a riot.

PhilosophiCat: I don’t know that’s necessarily true. I mean, the rallies in Australia had a lot of different people there including a lot of immigrants who were carrying signs saying that they didn’t move to Australia for this they had escaped tyranny in their previous country. And they were really impassioned about fighting on this issue. So I don’t think it’s only going to be White people willing to stand up for this. And I don’t actually see the majority of White people willing to do so now I mean, maybe it’s a proportion of population. But I don’t know that’s worth quibbling about. The fact is like regardless of the racial representation in the opposition to tyranny I don’t see why you wouldn’t just fight side by side with somebody who shares a common enemy with you I’m not, as I said, before. You don’t have to marry the person and have kids with them.

Woes: Yeah yeah, of course, it’s I mean. And the thing is this is something where. It seems to me that the Left were expert at this that feminists didn’t really care about gay rights. But they allied with the gay lobby in order to defeat the mainstream.

PhilosophiCat: Right they all allied together to undermine the Patriarchy.

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Woes: Exactly. And you see this time, and time again with on throughout the course of the history of the Left over the last 100 years. They didn’t care they just did whatever was pragmatic. And what would yield the result that they wanted, or built towards the result that they wanted it wasn’t all, or nothing. Right now it was incremental and they understood the value of making compromises along the way in order to get to the end result that they wanted. And that’s why they’ve now got total cultural hegemony. I mean, there’s no conservatism in our social marie’s anymore so that’s. I mean, that shows you how effective that strategy can be if you do it, you know, intelligently. So I mean, at this point, yeah. I do think that we should be we need to be more flexible, because clearly, you know, this approach hasn’t worked for us. So far I don’t really see why it would start working for us now of yeah. And I think the key thing is fighting battles that see this is The thing that there is a bit of a contradiction here you’re saying that pragmatically so that we can get back to the demographic issue. But you’re also saying that the demographic issue is at least in some countries it’s done that the battle is lost permanently. So I think that this is our nuanced point and it’s and it’s not a point that a lot of people are going to enjoy hearing. But I think it is something that we have to face up to, if nothing else.

PhilosophiCat: In America is probably lost in France probably lost. In Poland no they can still fight that battle Slovakia go for it most of Eastern Europe I would say could still fight that battle most of Western Europe and North America not so much would be pretty hard to reverse that trend I’m not going to have enough babies to reverse the demographic trend and neither are any of you out there like it’s not mathematically possible. I mean, what is possible is that these vaccines, or whatever other variant they release is going to wipe out a huge amount of the population and those of us who are unvaccinated are the ones left standing that would change the game entirely.

Woes: Yeah ironically.

PhilosophiCat: I don’t know. I mean, it could happen I don’t know I’m not an expert I can’t say, but based on the information that we have now nobody has yet presented to me a good argument for why demographics would take precedence over medical tyranny, because and I’m open to having my mind change if somebody can give me one that isn’t based on feels.

Woes: Okay well here is one actually someone says her she’s got her priorities wrong government tyranny is temporary race is eternal.

PhilosophiCat: While race isn’t eternal, because other races in the past have been genocided ask the tasmanian aboriginals for a start is one of the most recent examples in history. That could get into some really interesting metaphysical territory in terms of like the racial totem from which our souls are drawn and, you know what would happen to a racial totem if all of the biological specimens died out. And there was nothing left available for that totem to express itself so we could debate for a long time on whether, or not, race is actually eternal and, or even what race actually is and that’s maybe outside the scope of this discussion.

Woes: Yeah and we should emphasize that cat is not they are saying race is just a load of rubbish.

PhilosophiCat: No I’m not saying it’s a social construct. And there are some really serious spiritual implications regarding racial issues, in my opinion. But this is part of why I say that this medical tyranny this New World Order takeover is such an important issue, because you won’t have the ability to fight this issue if they win.

Woes: That to me is the key thing, because people are saying in the chat most places in the US are still overwhelmingly White. The jews created Israel out of nothing. So there is no need for defeatism that is true. However, the jews created Israel with massive power, you know, massive institutional and academic authority and money we don’t have that. And that is the key and certainly we’re not going to be able to get those resources if we.

PhilosophiCat: No and neither do we have any kind of strong tribal instinct.

Woes: Yes yes.

PhilosophiCat: That’s another reality that we need to contend with the lack of a tribal instinct I think White people are more prone [80:00] to ally with people on an ideological, or religious level than they are on a racial level and that’s another reason why I say it might be beneficial to ally with any other race who’s willing to stand against globalist tyranny.

Woes: Yeah. And if I missed a globalist tyranny we’re not just talking about the latest annoying vaccine mandate, or whatever we’re talking about the entire mentality the entire infrastructure the global infrastructure of implementing tyranny and maintaining it.

PhilosophiCat: And a tyranny that is explicitly designed to wipe out race’s nations cultures and traditions.

Woes: Yes! That’s the thing is explicitly does. I mean, it’s built into it.

PhilosophiCat: So I don’t understand. And when that be when that is there when that is the long-term result I don’t know how you can say well demographics is a greater issue than fighting against this tyranny, because it is in fighting against that tyranny that you protect the demographic the demographic issue into the future.

Woes: Yeah. And I think everyone’s exactly like hold on hold on hold on hold on everyone who’s angry at cats should just remember what she just said right, because that she’s saying.

PhilosophiCat: Don’t be angry at me I’m a nice girl!

Woes: Yeah. But sometimes you want I people up people up and I’m sorry. And sometimes I’m a [] on Twitter.

PhilosophiCat: And I’m sorry I just can’t I’m saucy I’m feisty and I’m really a nice person at heart!

Woes: All right don’t get too garlic the point is this is a tactical strategic thing as much as anything else it’s not saying right we don’t care about race anymore we don’t care about demographics don’t care about identity we’re saying part of the that now has to be seen, or perhaps okay. And I think some people find that a bit disconcerting [Laughter] that’s true I think that that racial thing now should be properly seen as part of a struggle against a tyranny. And that you will only get the results you want in the demographics sphere if you’d first defeat that tyranny. There is no point trying to fight the demographics thing hoping that the tyranny will somehow not stop you, because it simply will that. There’s no getting around that. So we have to defeat the tyranny that there’s this is not really negotiable.

PhilosophiCat: It is that it is that same oligarchy that did the multiculturalism to us in the first place. And they did it to us so that they could do the Great Reset. So the demographic issue was only introduced, because it was a stepping stone on their way to the Great Reset! It’s part of the bigger issue. But it’s not the whole issue and that’s all I’m saying.

Woes: But you can’t defeat that part without defeating the whole of the greater issue that’s the.

PhilosophiCat: You need to strike at the root.

Woes: Yeah, okay.

PhilosophiCat: Who else is mad at me?

Woes: Was well I’ll just go kidding I’ll go through the list oh someone says this is a good guess to kick things off with she has the chat aggravated in a good way hail philosophical!

PhilosophiCat: I didn’t mean to come in and be a shit stir I’m sorry.

Woes: I know thank that’s super city so that’s obviously a fan of yours. Someone says I am still in the denial phase regarding the Flu World Order and I am aware. But I am aware of it. I wonder how it must feel for antifa to attack freedom fighters and bully them into obeying the state. Well, this is the thing actually just yesterday I saw an article about from Germany and apparently antifa were policing the mask wearing on trains. And actually physically removed people from a train carriage in I think Berlin who were not wearing the mask. And they were saying that we’re going to do the job that the police aren’t prepared to do.

PhilosophiCat: The police that. They wanted to defund.

Woes: Yeah yeah. But this is the thing. I mean, antifa. I mean, we don’t need to moan about this it’s an obvious point. But I will do it anyway it’s amazing how fucking obnoxious and arrogant and self-assured these people are, because all they’re doing is it well. I mean, it’s the opposite of what they should be doing and used to do. And it’s just remarkable. But yeah, there’s no need to go into that I guess, but apparently they shouted antiphon mask control that was how they announced themselves.

PhilosophiCat: I mean, look this is another example where you need to start applying alinsky’s Rules for Radicals against the Left and hold them to their own standards. There’s never been a better time to do that we could have a lot of fun with that.

Woes: I think we could and we [85:00] should probably it might be worth doing a stream specifically and only about that something very practical like that. Anyway so okay let’s go through these Catholic France supported the Protestants in the 30 years war for long-term gain we can do deals against one enemy with a smaller enemy in order to protect our communities beat the biggest threat and then deal with the rest later just banging your head on the just banging your head on the door of the train cars is pointless yes I would agree with that then someone says the Great Replacement is more important than everything else and then someone.

PhilosophiCat: Replacement is the Great Reset don’t forget.

Woes: Yeah. Yeah, okay and then someone asks. Do you think that the vaccine lowers fertility?

PhilosophiCat: I think it’s entirely possible and I personally am not going to take the risk and test it out on myself. I’ve just seen and heard from too many women who have had miscarriages still births I’ve heard of men like couples who were going for fertility treatments and then men’s sperm counts were down to zero after their vaccines, you know what why take the risk. If it doesn’t make any sense to me you’ve got it like a minuscule risk of having any serious effects from Covid. I mean, why would you even I don’t know some people just have a like they’ve got their priorities backwards in my opinion. But some people are saying that about me right now, so who am I to judge right yeah yeah.

Woes: So but yeah, it is why would you take the risk. Yeah, it’s just crazy. Yeah, okay someone says looking at this in terms of pure power my body my choice is dead and the Left hasn’t noticed given it’s profound myopia this could be of use to us if the situation changes for good, rather than ill. So this is about the abortion debate and the vaccine debate my body my choice this is again a way that we could hold the Left to their own standards.

PhilosophiCat: Precisely. The time is so right for it there’s they give us so many opportunities right now.

Woes: Yeah and then someone says how is it not possible to put people on aeroplanes back to a certain mythical African country and just withdraw their citizenship swell it’s completely possible to do that if you have power we don’t and those who do have power are dead against doing that sort of thing well it depends. I mean, I read that they’re changing the law in Britain so that citizenship can be revoked a few days ago anyway. And then finally someone says dang this is the most divided I’ve ever seen a Millennial chat. And I’ve been here. And I’ve been here for all of them.

PhilosophiCat: It wasn’t supposed to be this divisive I just I wasn’t planning to make the whole stream about this but people got all wound up I’m sorry for ruining your Christmas everyone.

Woes: No that look it’s fine. I think that it’s I think this is a necessary thing that we have to confront and, if nothing else just to test it and find out, you know what is the truth here how important should this be and should the Great Replacement still be a priority. I mean, people are going to disagree but we must be able to have that debate, because just artistically going on in the same way as before is just silly… I mean, we should be flexible it’s not as if we’re in power now and need to have an agenda all clearly laid out tomorrow. So I think we should be able to do this we should be able to have this debate well in a relatively civil manner.

PhilosophiCat: We need to be able to be flexible, because when you’re confronted against a leviathan it’s big and it’s massive but it moves slowly and the way to defeat that is to be agile and quick to be able to be dynamic to be flexible. And that means not clinging to these old lost battles and focusing on what we could still win where can we still gain ground where can we trick the enemy what’s when do we need to shift strategy. Because that’s no longer working. And you have to be it’s like people who I’m sure you’ve probably encountered some people like this who get into like Bitcoin and stuff right and they get too emotionally attached to their investment and they won’t sell when they should, or they buy at the wrong time, because they’re just like they can’t think strategically, because they’re too emotionally attached to something they’ve invested in and that’s maybe a more tangible example. But this is really [90:01] very much like that people in the movement have for a long time invested emotionally into this issue of demographics to our detriment I think, because we’ve made very little headway on this issue. And we have focused on this issue to the exclusion of others that we could have potentially won and then put it in that and in winning those other issues could have put us in a better position to go back to the demographic issue later.

Woes: Yeah, I agree someone’s saying that I skipped his second Superchat. But I didn’t see it added. So I’m sorry about that let me see I don’t know I didn’t see it let me think see I don’t know how to use these damn hyper chats on Odysee I don’t know how to scroll through them and just see them I mean, you’d think that would be an obvious thing for them to implement. So I’m sorry I can’t find your second Superchat, or hyper chat as they’re called on here anyway. So I apologize winter Phoenix forest all right. So I guess we could end it there that there will be people who are annoyed with you and, you know,

PhilosophiCat: I don’t worry about it too much this is to those people I say think on what I’ve said. You don’t have to accept it. You don’t have to agree with me. But I would ask that you go away and you reflect on how much of your attachment to the demographic issue is really just emotional ask yourself what would it mean for me if I let go of this issue is the most important thing in my life. And I’m not telling you that you should do that, or that you have to do that I could be wrong I’m not an expert maybe you guys are right I don’t know, maybe someday over the next few weeks one of you guys will send me a message and tell me something that convinces me to change my mind and i’ll have to come back on Millennial at the end and clarify it all for you, but all I just ask is that you just sit with it and think about it. You don’t have to agree with it and I do not hold it against anybody if they don’t agree with me.

Woes: Okay.

PhilosophiCat: Hopefully they don’t hold it against me either.

Woes: All right we’ve got just two on Entropy. So I’ll go through this please have Apollonian Germ on his guest it’s I had him on last year I like him very much I’ve got nothing against him. And I will certainly invite him next year. But I wanted to have that there were so many people that I wanted to invite this year. That’s the only reason that I didn’t invite Apollonian Germ. So I’ll certainly be inviting him next year. Okay my wife just gave birth to our second child before right before Thanksgiving right before Thanksgiving it’s a joyous occasion but a dark cloud looms on the horizon my employer wants me vaxxed I put in a religious exemption claim. But I doubt it will work I don’t want the jab I’m not sure what I will do. But I would I have two little ones so that’s good I’m glad. And I wish that situation yeah. And I wish I’m luck. Yeah. I mean, we there that we need to get far more organized with the religious exemption stuff and the medical exemption stuff it’s in every country it’s just a fucking as far as I can tell it’s just a disaster everyone’s just guessing on their own there’s no coordination we should be able to do much better than this I can’t really see why. We’re not doing better I mean, really that’s just a matter of putting it together. We need to do that okay.

And then someone says oh yeah here’s a question when you’re debating normies about conspiracies government corruption, etc., and they say you only believe that, because you’ve seen it on the internet how do you respond.

PhilosophiCat: I’ve literally never had somebody say that to me to be honest. But I have to say like I don’t go hard with people on conspiracy theories especially the ones that are really out there when I’m talking to normies I listen first to what they believe and I think. Like what are the key issues for them where’s the weak point in what they’re saying like too often when I see people trying to talk to normies about this stuff they’re too eager to just throw facts and theories at the other person hoping that something will stick. It’s not about you talking it’s about you listening to them and listening really closely finding the weak point in their thought and just gently poking at it over, and over, again planting little seeds and being willing to be patient. I never come at somebody with like weird conspiracy theories, or facts, or whatever if somebody tells me that they believe in the government and the media telling them to get these vaccinations and that they’re perfectly safe I don’t argue with them [95:01] about it I just ask questions.

Woes: Like have you ever heard of the USS Liberty that kind of thing.

PhilosophiCat: Well I’ve never asked I’ve never asked anybody that question.

Woes: I’m just kidding.

PhilosophiCat: But I would ask them probing questions and kind of like almost like a Socratic method on them why. Do you think that oh where did you get that idea have you considered it such and such is true, you know, I heard this somewhere I don’t know if it’s true. But it kind of gave me pause. What do you think about that and let them do the talking let them reason themselves into the position that you want them to believe most people don’t like being told what to think.

Woes: No no not at all they only like that when it comes from a clear authority something that they trust like the BBC, CNN, or whatever, and they agree with it they trust that author then they’ll accept just being told but when it’s another person no they don’t like that at all. I mean, it’s quite understandable it’s quite natural. So I’ve always find that the best thing is to just gently nudge them and say gently say this, or that and just let them realize on their own that is far more effective than you trying to hammer the just get them to agree.

PhilosophiCat: You gotta you’ve gotta treat them like they’re a horse they’ve gotta think it was all their idea you’ve gotta let them save face. And you’ve got to let them feel like they were intelligent to come to the conclusion that they came to it you can if you go in with it being about you and your ego you’re going to lose every argument yeah you might win on the facts but you’ll lose the person.

Woes: Exactly exactly this is the whole thing about winning the argument but losing the debate or, as you say, winning on the facts but losing the person. And it’s very easy, you know, in the heat of its so easy to get caught up in it. And you want to get through to them you want to just persuade them you want to just get them to see the bloody truth. And it’s very it makes you irate unless you consciously take a step back you’re going to consciously just it doesn’t matter it’s okay if they do if they leave this conversation still convinced of their own priors that’s fine it’s not the end of the world you gotta have that that detachment it’s very helpful.

PhilosophiCat: Yeah you cannot be attached to outcomes. And the thing is, if you want people to accept the truth from you first you have to cultivate their trust and their respect. And you don’t do that by condescending to them, or criticizing them. When you’re dealing with normies like you got to remember they’re not used to thinking critically it’s new for them, you know, treat them like they’re a child in some ways and be gentle with them be kind to them. Don’t go trying to dismantle their whole reality. Because that’s really like that can even be psychologically damaging for them you’re not going to you’re not going to make a lot of headway doing that so that’s my two cents on that take it for what it’s worth.

Woes: Yeah absolutely. And then finally. And it’s a completely different topic what was your take on Seth Rogen and his Twitter yeah I know and his tweet of cal star again what was your take on Seth Rogen and his tweet of shock that his Santa ink caused a reaction Rogan bashes Christmas then at shops when people respond does does this seem a routine worked out of getting of angering the public then claiming shocking levels of anti-semitism exists.

PhilosophiCat: As is the norm for his kind that is all I have to say about that! This is a reference this is a reference to our Twitter victory that cat had recently which is widely shared on Telegram.

Woes: And so it’s very funny yeah you want to go into that, or maybe not okay.

PhilosophiCat: We probably shouldn’t yeah all right so people can find it on Telegram. Yeah, it’s still on Twitter too I think.

Woes: So yeah, well as long as you’re still on Twitter so far. Yeah, okay excellent. Well this has been a very productive conversation yeah as I say there will maybe be some fallout from it. But I think it’s a necessary conversation it’s a necessary topic. And we’ve got to address this.

PhilosophiCat: So I’m happy to get the conversation started and I’m willing to be hated by a few people if it’s for the greater good so, as I said, I hope people just kind of take it on board and think about it and come to their own conclusions, you know, ultimately you got to do what you think is best. But, all right put it on to the ether. Anyway.

Woes: Okay what a gal all right. Well, thank you very much philosophicat for appearing on Millennial 2021

PhilosophiCat: My pleasure was I it was [100:02] it was more fun than I thought it would be I didn’t expect to get it.

Woes: So yeah. Yeah, it was. I mean, I get nervous about it as well. But I think we’re getting into the swing of it so excellent all right. Thank you very much. And I will be back fairly soon in about 20 minutes with Mark Malone. So all right. I’ll see you all then in the meantime thank you philosophicat. And I hope you’ll be on again next year yeah.

PhilosophiCat: Thank you and Merry Christmas, or yule, or whatever you celebrate to everyone out there and nice nice that you all could join us.

Woes: All right okay all right, you know, I’ll see you in a wee while about 15 minutes bye bye for now.

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@millennialwoes
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@ProblematicBob
20 days ago
Cat is displaying the absolute worst tendency of the cuckservative here.
A is a lost battle, we need to move on to B.
B is a lost battle, we need to move on to C.
C is a lost battle, …
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
As opposed to continuing to fight lost, past battles rather than current or future ones? How is it strategically a good idea to constantly be on the defensive and suffering a tactical lag rather than being pre-emptive and on the offense?
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@ProblematicBob
20 days ago
That’s not what you’re proposing though, is it? You’re just reacting to the latest development while proposing we abandon our ancestral homelands as a lost cause. We’re in a long fight and you’re preaching defeatism.
Mark my words: the covid hysteria will have fizzled out within 12 months and Schwab &co. won’t even have gotten 5% of what they wanted. It will have been useful in outing the fickle though, amongst other things.
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
Covid lockdowns will morph into climate lockdowns and vax passports will morph into movement permits. And either way, you will be under their total control. THAT is the issue. Agenda 21 is the longterm game. 2020 was a milestone year in that game and they got everything they wanted. You think that next year they are going to say, “I guess we’ve caused enough suffering, let’s give the plebs back their freedom”? Why would they do that? I guess we will see who is right. They’ve told you from day one that there will be a “new normal”.
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@LimerickickHaiku
20 days ago
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Holy fuck is the right stuck in the stone age. You guys need to watch/read some Lamrey Milt and Jay Dyer to get out of this 2015 mindset.
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@ProblematicBob
20 days ago
Re: Covid lockdowns…
You’re describing the globalist sci-fi pipedream, not reality. Trust me, the TED-talk-ocalypse isn’t going to happen.
I’m not saying that we shouldn’t resist the covid tyranny, btw. I just don’t see what that has to do with giving up on our homelands or spreading defeatism, and I think that the panic on display among our elites will ultimately work in our favour.
Hold the line.
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
And if you don’t prioritise resisting tyranny, there won’t BE a shire, Pippin.
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@ProblematicBob
20 days ago
Re: And if…
As I said elswhere under this video, I don’t have any objection to discussing immediate priorities. You repeatedly writing off our homelands as “lost battles” is what I was objecting to. (I also think you’re mistaking their fantasies for reality.)
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@jnl
20 days ago
Even if “Covid tyranny” was defeated tomorrow, we’d be right back in the terrible position we were in before. This isn’t even a battle that gains us anything. I could think of a hundred more important issues.
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@lancebiggums
20 days ago
you lose every battle when you admit defeat as soon as it gets hard
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@philosophicat
19 days ago
This comment was slimed to death.
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@Weltenesche
10 days ago
If you keep conceding to your enemy, you end up losing.
Conceding to the left is how the Republicans ended up being so utterly useless and cucked on every issue, and the same with almost every right-wing European party.
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@TomPow
11 days ago
The problem with conservatives and the right is not recognizing that we’ve already completely lost and that in reality what we have to do is go on the offensive and gain ground. Not just the ground lost but far more than that. What the right needs is a vision of conquest.
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
10 days ago
2 world wars was about us giving our countries up was it? What would our fathers and grandathers say after their sacrifices
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@Weltenesche
10 days ago
They’d say “I fought for the wrong side.”
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
10 days ago
Yoi’re right

@ClownworldSquad
3 days ago
Yeah she is a perfect example why women shouldn’t be in leaderpositions or have a big presence on social media.
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@samson.sawnoff
20 days ago
She’s completely wrong about the replacement issue – just look to France right now. It’s an issue that obviously has traction. The covid issue could go away tomorrow.
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@samson.sawnoff
20 days ago
European history shows ethno-nationalism is a strong force that reasserts itself periodically.
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@AaronKasparov
20 days ago
She is wrong about the replacement issue but the ‘covid issue’ isn’t going away, either. Both are important, it’s not an either/or situation.
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@JacobJ4746
20 days ago
The damn thing is that she’s prioritizing covid over demographics.
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@AaronKasparov
20 days ago
Which doesn’t make sense because the replacement of Whites is part of The Great Reset and Agenda 21. The thing that woke me up to the demographic issue a few years ago was seeing Agenda 21’s “Replacement Migration” document (which I discovered through Red Ice). Both issues are part of the same beast.
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@Milu_the_black_dog
19 days ago
Both Covid AND demographics are distractions…Literally….The one true topic which should matter the most to all of us is central banks..JEWISH central banks..which are literally funding everything we HATE (feminism, degeneracy, NGOs,bigpharma, politics, feds, etc)…And even if we magically recover both our freedom and borders, they would still have us grabbed by the balls..and they could easily create as many wars-depressions-collapses as they wanted (and as they did in the past)…Of course, we still need to win all battles, so of course we need to win the covid and demographics wars… but it will never end..unless you end their source of power..the central banks..
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@Bearcingetorix
13 days ago
Fuckin this!
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@wrathofatlantis2018
20 days ago
Exactly. Furthermore, the demography is not lost in the East, even if the last chance that Zemmour represents does not succeed.
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@TomPow
11 days ago
She is a woman. Women are more obsessed with cleanliness than being wise to foreign invaders.
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@AaronKasparov
20 days ago
Demographics and The Great Reset are of equal importance. They’re not even separate issues: Part of The Great Reset IS to replace Whites: In The World Economic Forum’s 2040 promotional video, they say “We have to do a better job welcoming refugees”. That’s code for replacing Whites. So it’s not even a tenable position to say “Just worry about The Great Reset but not demographics” because both are part of The Great Reset and Agenda 21. Always was.
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@jnl
20 days ago
Ending the Covid stuff is just a means to an end. The end itself is a future for our people. That’s what we should all be ultimately fighting for. Because if we successfully defeated Covid tyranny but then went extinct afterwards, what would have been the point? It would have all been for nothing. Never lose focus on what really matters.
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@MrQuestion
18 days ago
She said the imminent medical tyranny has to be defeated first, which is obviously true. Dissent would become impossible under the techocratic control grid that is intended to come in through the vaccine passport.
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@Weltenesche
10 days ago
It’s the other way around. The Great Reset is a step towards replacing Whites, which is the end goal.
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
20 days ago
tell her it’s Chrismas, not the holidays. This is more than left v right. the Covid demonstrations are ridiculous. This is a good time to complain about immigration. Covid is imported, and the only way to stop it is stopping immigration. Demonstrating against covid has no point unless they demonstrate against the cause, and the cause is free movement
The Tasmanian abos were NOT genocided. That’s old BS put forward by white anglo haters. It’s an old Canard that like other pieces is anti white BS, is never challenged as Aussies are too lazy to care
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@Frost
20 days ago
We all misspeak occasionally. Merry Christmas.
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
20 days ago
lol Merry Christmas to you too
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
Some people celebrate Yule instead. And I am also including Thanksgiving and New Year’s into the holiday season. I wasn’t trying to be politically correct.
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@Vingul
20 days ago
I think you would have gotten much less pushback if you had simply stated that the Covid agenda and white replacement are more or less just different aspects of one and the same issue. Which I believe they are.
Even if you do believe that the demographic issue is a lost cause in America and Western Europe (and I’m not implying that you are lying about that), why would you say that out loud? You’re “not trying to blackpill anyone”, yet you’re practically saying that there is no future. What could be more demoralising? For someone who cares about his people, that’s like saying the world will end. How will he then be motivated to fight against the Covid tyranny? I agree that we should at times focus our attention on more pressing matters, and I can get behind the idea of “one struggle” with non-Europeans vs. evil elites, but I would not bother with standing on any barricades with racial strangers if I truly believed that all Western European peoples are as good as dead. I might be fighting to the death (metaphorically or in fact) with my own, with my family and friends, not with outsiders. I am not trying to create a future for strangers in my own home, with me and all my kin in the grave and forgotten if not pissed on.
The above might not be the most charitable interpretation of what you said possible. I enjoy your channel and appearances on other streams (and on this one). But I would have expected you to deal more carefully with such a fundamental existential (spiritual) question as the survival of one’s race or ethnos.
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@jnl
20 days ago
Our countries have essentially been occupied since the end of WW2. Even if this Covid stuff were all to go away tomorrow, we wouldn’t be in a better position than we already were. “Covid tyranny” is just fake and gay distraction that has been extremely effective in pacifying our people from actually making progress. I’m so sick of these “Covid is the only issue” types. Covid doesn’t matter; it’s just one issue of many. The future of our people is what matters.
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@Monkeymakefire
2 days ago
what does that have to do with holidays?
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@Vingul
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What does your comment have to do with mine?
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@Monkeymakefire
23 hours ago
about as much as yours has to do with the cat’s…
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@Vingul
23 hours ago
It had everything to do with the video. A comment would be a way of reaching her. I have since communicated with her somewhere else, so don’t worry about it.
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@Monkeymakefire
19 hours ago
oh, thank god. i was really beginning to fret…
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@Vingul
11 hours ago
; – )
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@JacobJ4746
20 days ago
Are listening to what Vingful is saying cat, or are you going to ignore it?
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
20 days ago
Hi Fair enough
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
19 days ago
You fall right into the hands of the usual suspects. It is about Christmas, most of the world does not celebrate thanksgiving. It’s named after the day, not a series of days. Yule is fine by me, but this ” happy holiday crap comes from here
https://townhall.com/columnists/burtprelutsky/2006/12/11/the-jewish-grinch-who-stole-christmas-n997077
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@philosophicat
19 days ago
I’ll say what I want for whatever reasons I feel like. I think I know more about what my intentions are than you do.
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@Bukitburg
19 days ago
It is Yule not Christmas to many native Europeans. Saying holidays keeps it neutral between Pagans/Atheists and Christians.
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
19 days ago
Christmas is th recofnized day world wide
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@MrQuestion
18 days ago
The demonstrations are against medical tyranny, not against a virus you absolute twit.
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
18 days ago
ad I an saying they are wasting an opportunity to stop the virus. 34 upvotes can’t be wrong, you absolute twit
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@MrQuestion
18 days ago
You can’t stop these kinds of viruses unless you shut down all travel forever. The idea that you would do that in response to the coof is laughable. This talking point maybe kind of made sense in early 2020, but not now.
The issue now is stopping the vaccine passport system. Do you want the system telling you what you have to inject in order to take part in society? The elites believe in depopulation, and their first target is the West.
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
18 days ago
it would shut down travel from some places, yes, but not others who have cleared the virus and who have also stopped immigration. Western nations did not have much immigration until the 60s, certainly not from the third world
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@MrQuestion
18 days ago
Did you take the vax?
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
18 days ago
yes as i’m not taking any more
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@NoFunZone
6 days ago
is she pagan? is that why she said that?
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@lordbeermonster
20 days ago
I can see now why people voted this down. We should accept and come to terms with our demographic replacement, because it’s now irreversible, and we should pray more, and perhaps spend time investigating astrology? Seriously?
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@ProblematicBob
20 days ago
Discussing immediate priorities is one thing, but writing off the theft of our lands as a “lost battle” is another.
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@Nebulaaa
20 days ago
She’s a proudly childless cat lady. Glad she’s on our side but she’s an example of why spiritual but not religious beliefs don’t inspire people to have children. it would cut too much into their philosophizing time
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@ragnawie
20 days ago
It seems she essentially advocates for the restless searching of a spirituality or religion that feels “right.” Just because she focuses more on the substance rather than the surface doesn’t mean she doesn’t advocate the same discontent obsession of theory that plagues us all.
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
This simply isn’t true. I don’t normally discuss my private life because it’s private and has nothing to do with my content, but because this is something people bring up every year in an attempt to dismiss what I am saying, I will briefly put this to rest. I’ve been trying for a baby for a very long time. If it happens, I would be very happy, but it’s ultimately up to God and not me. Perhaps God has other plans for me. I simply seek to live in alignment with God’s will and I would welcome any prayers for equanimity in this regard.
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@georgie173148
20 days ago
bless you Cat, let’s hope 2022 is your year, literally tears in my eyes
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@JacobJ4746
20 days ago
Cat, be realistic here. I’ve heard this same argument over “allying” many times with other issues such as LGBT with MUSLIMS. Just because something effects many groups, does not mean nor is there enough solid and very strong evidence to suggest that simply 1 issue will somehow be enough to have a strange multi-racial partnership. Hell Cat, it’s still going on right now. Ethnic White British Girls are still being trafficked in the UK by Muslims and those communities still protect those men. The same goes for Blacks, Hispanics, etc. There’s still interracial conflicts despite all of the covid nonsense. You want to talk strategy, yet you’re overly idealistic simply because of 1 issue alone, and without much to back your own argument other than calling it “strategic”. These other groups still hate White People cat. Just because covid started up does not mean they themselves have stopped their attacks on Whites.
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@Nebulaaa
20 days ago
you need to eat meat cat
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
I do.
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@NativeAlbion
20 days ago
While I disagree with you, you are in my players. God bless.
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@Foxer
14 days ago
Sorry for your troubles with having children. It’s a terrible thing to be childless when wanting them. But giving in to “god” is a worthless coping mech. Why try anything, if god wants you to have children you will have even if you are celebate.
Do what you can yourself, no prayers will work because you dont even know which one of the thousands of gods people have been worshiping to turn to.
cant on natural ways? DO IVF. if it fails do it again and again. If that fails try surrogate. If that fails try adoption(if that is acceptable). Dont wait for miracles that never comes. Nothing good comes to thoes that just wait. Best wishes and never give up untill the last straw has been grasped.
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@LimerickickHaiku
20 days ago
The only side women are on is where their vagainas lean.
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@EscapingZek
19 days ago
its something. probably the best single thing. not exclusive.
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@SpiritualDiscussion
18 days ago
Without blood you will perish.
This is a law that comes from outside.
If you lose your family you are finished.
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@ClownworldSquad
3 days ago
This girl is def not someone to listen to, let me tell you.
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
I appreciate everyone who tuned in and contributed to a lively chat and I hope everyone had fun, even if you didn’t love what I had to say.
You can find my videos on both YouTube and Odysee.
https://www.youtube.com/c/philosophicat
For those wanting a better understanding of the race/spirit thing, I recommend in particular Episodes 7 and 10 from my Revolt Against the Modern World series.
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@blut-and-biden
20 days ago
Did you show your face in previous Millenniyules? Seems like this is the first time, but then again my memory is terrible
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
Yes I did and I will be re-airing my previous MillenniYule appearances on my channel this Wednesday and next.
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@Alternative_Voices_Portal
20 days ago
Thanks for appearing and for sharing your links, Cat!
And, try to not let the various morons and subversives get you down by talking gibberish about you and your positions.
The average commenter does not represent the average viewer (or person in general).
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@LimerickickHaiku
19 days ago
The dissident right has literally become that Spider Man meme where they’re all pointing fingers at each other. Yeah, I definitely have a lot of faith in you guys to do anything about this totalitarian takeover and extermination of the world. I’m actually laughing now.
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@Vingul
19 days ago
Did you change your name (and avatar) to alan_B_stard_M_P, Philosophicat? Lmao. If not that’s a pretty funny bug.
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@MrQuestion
18 days ago
What you said was very clear: the imminent medical tyranny has to be defeated first. Dissent would become impossible under the techocratic control grid that is intended to come in through the vaccine passport.
I despair at the IQ level of a movement that somehow failed to grasp what you clarified over and over again in this stream.
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@frenologist
13 days ago
I think what you were saying was pretty based tbh and I always appreciate a good contrarian take. It’s OK if a few jimmies get rustled every now and then.
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@GrandPaLampshade
20 days ago
Without Death we cannot have life, without hate we cannot have Love, Without War, we cannot have Victory. Stand Sons and Daughters of Europe you all have the blood of Hero’s and Warriors flowing thru you. We will have Victory if you stand.
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@TheThinRedLine
20 days ago
Even america is not lost, R E C O N Q U I S T A
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@ST-TV
19 days ago
How?
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@TheThinRedLine
18 days ago
The optimistic version: things becomes so bad from for example the inflation and the covid restrictions that a majority of the whites and a a group of the colored peoples demand drastic solutions and this gives rice to a real Nationalist government.
The pessimistic version : America continues the decline and at some point this gives rise to secession movements and America breaks up in several states some of these white from these white state begins a slow pushing back of the colored people much like what happened in Spain , where the White people were pushed back in to a few mountain areas and from there began reconquista around AD 750 and finally ended with the fall of Granada in 1492
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
“things becomes so bad from for example the inflation and the covid restrictions that a majority of the whites and a a group of the colored peoples demand drastic solutions and this gives rice to a real Nationalist government.” This is a FATAL (and i mean it literally) flaw in the thinking of most nationalists. This narrative puts you and the entire movement into a state of permanent hybernation. There is not point to to anything untill things get so bad that people are craving for the “next one” to save them. That is not how power works. If this narrative of collapse causing nationalists to raise up would even remotely be true then South Africa would have been in a civil war for the last 10+ years. They are not. Why? Because when people face adversity, over 90% of then just make individual solutions to avoid (note avoid, not even try to get rid off) said adversity. Thus people will just move or flee rather than fight. So you think you are waiting for a savior, yet in reality you are only waiting for exintinction.
“America continues the decline and at some point this gives rise to secession movements and America breaks up in several states” Another FATAL flaw in your thinking. Things like this do not happen, nothing like this has EVER happened. It is on YOU (yes YOU!!!!) to gather people who want to MAKE this happen. Once you have those people, you NEEEEEEEEED to form organizations, parties and institutions TO MAKE said thing happen. This is crucial, yet none of you is wiling to even talk about anything like that, let alone start forming ANY of these entities. You are done.
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@TheThinRedLine
18 days ago
First of all , I am not sure the comparison with South Africa is very good remember the whites in South Africa are less than 10 % .
On the latter part we largely agree we should organize, form communities and become active and push our agendas, that being said every thing has it’s momment and we should prepare and help to create that mommment.
Where we might disagree (I am not sure ) is that : we can not give up on White homelands for our people and sell this ideal in order to form an alliance with conservative colored people in order to form a multi racial conservative country.
What we can and should do is to form a contemperary alliance of the willling (colored, lefties ltbq etc) in order to fight the new tyranny rising from the Covid and the great reset since we all have an interest in that, but it should be a contemporary alliance with out ever loosing sight of our long term goals
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
At their high europeans were more than 40% of South Africans so yes, it’s totally valid comparable. If you beleave in your reconquista, then you should also consider that there likely were more Christians in Spain (compared to the Moors) back then than there are europeans in South Africa right now. My point is, even when people see their kin being driven to extinction, they will not take action. They will just die. Without insitutions, organisations and parties to USE, GUIDE and HARNESS said people, they are completely useless. Back then you had the Monarchy and the Church, together with those 2, you could make people do and beleave what ever you wanted. Contrast that to what we have now…. We have nothing. We don’t have media (and the ones we do have can’t agree on a narrative and fight with each other more than they do with our enemies) that can tell our people what to do and why to do it. We don’t have positive religious institutions to harness the dissatisfaction of the people. And we certainly don’t have parties or organizations that can do anything for us.
“we can not give up on White homelands” Thoughts like this are at the moment completely irrelevant. It does not matter if you beleave in separatism, imperialism, nationalism, nationalsocialism, transhumanism etc… All of that is completely irrelevant when you don’t even have a clue on the means to move people. I beleave you use a frace “putting the cart in front of a horse”. That is what you are doing. You need to focus on forming those ESSENTIAL entities first, before you can even entertain future scenarios. Organizations, institutions and parties of our people, for our people and ONLY for our people. Time to form those has been for the past 50+ years, you have at least that much to catch up so why are you still just sitting there? We have a million dreamers, 0 doers. How about next time you DO something before you speak?
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@TheThinRedLine
18 days ago
The whites in SA were 40 % around 1920 at the time apartheid ended they were maybe 10- 12 % so no
We do have something we have truth and the natural order and the deep tribal instincts, and they need a huge system of media academia and sencorship and law etc to keep and even with such overwelming power and force they have not been able to stop our ideas from spreading to such a degree that words like anti white and the great replacement slowly is becomming main stream. Maybe the reason why everything is speeding up is that they fear they are quite close to loosing it all.(I have seen Soros saying that several times )
I have been to 15 -20 anti lockdown protests so I am doing something and on a personal level I am trying to become more financially independent of the system
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
I see you still do not get it. There is no hope for you.
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@TheThinRedLine
18 days ago
I am sorry
I think the proof is in the pudding
People elected Trump, people voted for Brexit this clearly show that millions agree with us at least to some degree
If you just want a conservative traditionalist society why not move to an Islamic country or maybe a part of India or Africa isn’t that much easier ?
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
If you think Trump or Brexit moved the situation in our favor in any way, you truelly are lost.
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@TheThinRedLine
18 days ago
I respect you Cat , you are a clever woman but I disagree.
I diddn’t say that Brexit or Trump helped as a lot all though I do think it helped us a little, but to be honest both were a disappointment
Nevertheless both show that the majority of the population at least to some degree agrees with us, which also our enemies realized which is the reason for their hysterical reaction to both and also why they have been speeding up their agenda
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
Lol you must be drunk. Go look at my channel. Do i look like a cat to you?
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@TheThinRedLine
18 days ago
I am sorry , I thought I had a discussion with philosophicat your name kind of implied that
My arguement remains the same though
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
Your argument has 0 value and you don’t even realise it. Thus you are hopeless.
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@TheThinRedLine
18 days ago
that is not really an answer, more like a childish refussal of an arguement
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
It is an answer, but you are just too think to get it. Go back to my previous answers and read them again, then perhaps you’ll get it.
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@TheThinRedLine
18 days ago
I hope you will get a long and happy life in Afghanistan among your fellow conservatives
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
Have fun becoming extinct.
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@TheThinRedLine
18 days ago
With your politics we will last far longer than you since your kids will be married of to very nice conservative Africans
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@ZR
20 days ago
I think most of us can agree the COVID tyranny is currently the priority for the DR, but Philosophicat is going further than that and saying the demographic battle is lost and we should move on which of course is not going to be a popular position.
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@ragnawie
20 days ago
Yeah, demographics is a social issue just as wide as Covid is. I think the core frustration with the demographic issue is white Westerners being told that they exist to be imposed upon. It’s like being on a sinking ship and being told you aren’t allowed to fix the leak. So, in addition to being told to suppress the human desire for boundaries between each other, we are being herded into a technocratic medical state.
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@SpiritualDiscussion
18 days ago
Unfortunately that is not possible.
The laws of blood come from outside and are not something you can change.
The idea that you can change the laws of existence is the problem.
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@Wm
19 days ago
Truth is, if we had no Jews, all of these problems would just go away.
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
19 days ago
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@goolog
11 days ago
the jews are not the only ones to blame you sound like a jogger blaming white people for his low IQ…
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@Weltenesche
10 days ago
No, they wouldn’t.
We might have been able to fix them if it weren’t for Jews, though.
But they certainly wouldn’t magically go away, not the way things are now.
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@ProblematicBob
20 days ago
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@3xchann
19 days ago
Dissapointed, so her goals are now preventing us from sliding into the ‘metaverse’ ? She clearly doesn’t belong in the dissident right.
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@dakotajoe
19 days ago
I live in the US and the Metaverse will ilkely be preferable to living in most cities here, lol
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@GB22
19 days ago
She has a point. The demographics issue is not going to be won while we are all locked-down and all social interactions have moved to the metaverse.
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@Asha
4 days ago
She’s more than capable of making that argument without referring to the Replacement as a “petty demographic squabble” – the fact that she openly used such language is very suspect.
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@UnsentPassenger
16 days ago
Wew. Comment section on this one was brutal.
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@LimerickickHaiku
20 days ago
Good luck to Philosophicat in her attempts to unite this ragtag group of warring tribes. Everyone who’s tried to reach out or find common ground has failed. TFM fended off multiple assaults from various right wing groups, and ‘House of Comments’ and Asha Logos are currently neck deep in their own attempts but seem to be failing as well. I will say, though, that commenter who questioned whites needing minority groups to dominate was proven wrong many decades ago. The left got to where they are today by using minority groups. The right would rather die in their chosen ghetto than even make the effort to dream of a future for themselves.
Arrogance, lulz, mental illness, and a third world attitude has all but sealed the fate of ‘the right’ into oblivion. I’ve seen incels band together better than dissident rightists.
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@M3t4phYzX
20 days ago
Brilliantly put.
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@phantom_reborn
20 days ago
yep… fortunately the live chat that accompanied the stream is not reproduced here… but it did seem as though the average age of the contributors was around 11. Most wouldn’t even pass the Turing test. Perhaps lots of them have simply sunk deep into mental illness during lockdown.
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@Milu_the_black_dog
20 days ago
While I admire their efforts, I think the fact someone thinks we can unite dissident groups is, by default, naive thinking…Just do a quick review and you will realize that we are divided by so many unsolvable problems: the jew question, the women question, the race question, the religion question, etc…And while someone may say that the current powers (globohomo) are using this exact strategy (opposed minorities vs whites) against us…the only reason why these types of unstable alliances have reached success in last history (like with the bolsheviks), is because they are literally backed up with endless money suppy by the true rulers of this world (jewish bankers), who will gladly throw them into the bus, when a better cattle material arrives (spics, chinks, shitskins, etc).. Now, I personally suspect that a better approach would literally be divide the country into thousands of different states (one for each dominnant ideology)…and let them fight/live until the one who is the best (in evolutionary terms) wins (which is likely gonna be us)…That way, we don’t have to carry all the dead weight from the useless garbage we have in our societies AND we wouldn’t be constantly fighting within ourselves (because all the people who disagree with us are living somewhere else)..But there are too many people in our ranks who still to this day think we can win everything back (our lands, our money, our demographics, etc) and many who have completely swallowed the blackpill.. So I doubt they are gonna change their minds..
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@LimerickickHaiku
20 days ago
Interesting how you said “us” yet also claimed we can’t combine into the same group.
What’s often been suggested by some, TFM most notably coming to mind, is that the biggest threat to our existences must be dealt with first, and then petty squabbles be dealt with afterwards. I’ve also been advocating for peaceful separation for years, but the powers at be want extermination and unheard of levels of power.
Something no one gets is that you don’t need to share the same Zodiac sign to hold the door open for someone. Until the right gets that hammered into its thick skull nothing will change.
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@Milu_the_black_dog
20 days ago
I said “us”, because I didn’t want to start naming the endless groups which compose the dissident right (I can name 6-7, but I’m sure there are dozens more)..Now…I completely agree that peaceful separation is indeed the best solution…In fact, I hoped brexit would be an example that countries can still dissolute from their controllers (the EU) …and I hoped that Texas would be next after the US elections…But I was too naive…Our rulers have their people in every corner of the world..and of course, every government-corporation in existance….And the fact that most people (even within the dissident right) still to this day don’t notice the obvious zionists links of Johnson and Trump (and Bolsonaro, whom people still names as based) tells me that most people will keep playing the democracy game for a while, before realizing the whole system was rigged from the start…..But let’s give a try to your proposal, why not?..So, if we remove the normies, bluepilled, leftiests, and the usual agents of the globohomo, we should have what we call the dissident right…..Now, what are the worst threats to our existance? I will name the ones I believe should be prioritized: Jewish Bankers; Jews in general; Ethnocentrism; Religion; Economics; Politics; Foreign races; Demographics and finally Covid…Many people would say that Covid, demographics or even the jews should be first in our lists, but I say that all of them are just distractions…If you don’t handle the jewish bankers and their central banks first, they will create endless distractions more, as they have done for thousand years…Would you agree with that list?….Finally..yeah, I don’t hate people who disagree with me…I would hold the door even to fucking Bill Gates…But that doesn’t mean I want to talk with him or make him change his mind…
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@Fascist-Freddy
20 days ago
Why are you listening to TFM. First, he’s a degenerate. Second, he refuses to accept the Jew Problem.
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@LimerickickHaiku
20 days ago
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He’s one of the only guys who understand the WQ. Have to pick and choose what you listen to. The right is barely based.
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@J_Kyu
19 days ago
im ashamed to admit i dont know who TFM
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@J_Kyu
20 days ago
answer the jay kyoo and everything else will fall into place
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@Milu_the_black_dog
19 days ago
I’m not sure if you are being sarcastic or not…but if you don’t take the Rotschilds and their closest allies (the Rockefellers, the Morgans, etc) first…you will make no progress…The Rotschilds have thousands of years of experience infiltrating and destroying empires..Even if you take everything from them, they can easily recover their fortunes and try again to take the world, in a few hundreds of years…But if they are down…the remaining jews can be easily handled..
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@ragnawie
19 days ago
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@LimerickickHaiku
19 days ago
Ironic. I feel the same way about the core of the Alt Right.
Also, fun fact: being anonymous and online are actually positives, not negatives. Back in my day we actually got shit done and created interesting, cohesive, and, dare I say, fun groups in this digital realm. Your workplace where you’re under attack no matter what you do? Or local woke church flying the LGBT flag? Not so much. Stop making excuses for your shit behavior. I think this is the year I dissasociate from “the right” completely. You guys are just a bunch of toxic grifters.
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@ragnawie
19 days ago
My points about being online still stand with regard to uniting disparate groups. The majority of people in these groups join to revel in being part of a group that expects nothing from them; no responsibility, no need for support, and can slink away at the slightest inconvenience or dispute and join another group. The majority of these online associations are incredibly tenuous and oftentimes done out of pure negativity. Expecting anything outside the cores of these various groups to care about reconciliation is just naive. The online sphere encourages neuroticism, flakiness, and endless subdivision and the fact that the dissident right is confined to it condemns it to those things.
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And my point about the IRL world still stands. If you can’t find it here you’re definitely not going to find it out there. The internet, for all its faults, and it has many, is the one place you have a hope of meeting like-minded people and being open and honest without as much risk. The key problem here is not the internet, or the physical world, but the fact people, as a general rule, are quintessentially selfish and primed to get what they need where they can get it and as soon as possible.
Contrary to the copium of the right, Christianity is dead, save for a few small hick towns, and those places are ravaged with deaths of despair and white trash. Wokism is the only unifying faith we’ve got right now. To take your stance, and I don’t entirely disagree with it, is to admit defeat, and that this is nothing but a LARP because no one here has anything else going for their lives. And once again, I can’t disagree. See you in the wasteland.
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
19 days ago
if someone offers the right reasons and not BS they will unite. It’s not about the right alone, or shouldn’t be
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@LimerickickHaiku
19 days ago
The right disagrees internally as much as the collective ‘right’ disagrees with the collective ‘left.’ A monarchist, libertarian, alt righter, Christian, and pagan have almost nothing in common. The left found a way to unite a vast group of groups. The right is proud to be disagreeable and single-minded.
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@Nebulaaa
20 days ago
Spiritual but not religious blah blah blah. where are your babies cat?
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@MelGibsmedat
19 days ago
This is why women have traditionally never been protectors and preservers of civilzation. Really bad stream tbh.
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@deadribbits
18 days ago
Why can’t I care about demographics and covid tyranny?
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@philosophicat
18 days ago
You can and should. It’s just a matter of prioritising.
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@DharmaNationalist
20 days ago
I did like MW’s way of describing the “religious impulse” inherent in humanity as something “beautiful” and juxtaposing that against the decrepid world view of people like Ricky Gervais and Richard Dawkins, being egotistical, manical idiots.
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@Foxer
14 days ago
Depends on how much blood must be spilled and suffering that must be endured in the name of religious impulses. Most people would not want to live in the dark ages when religion ruled everything and suffering was something not to be remedied.
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@jimbojones15757
19 days ago
“I’m not religious I’m spiritual”
“Just give up on the demographic issue whitey, what really matters is masks”
“Nazism is disgusting and no sane person could ever support it”
This woman is Charlie Kirk tier… How the hell is she apart of DR again?
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@joker916
19 days ago
Demographic replacement and COVID tyranny are NOT mutually exclusive. Both serve the same end: White Genocide.
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@philosophicat
19 days ago
Precisely.
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@JacobJ4746
19 days ago
“Demographics are done! Just huddle up on some isolated island and “survive” – backstabber cat
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@ST-TV
19 days ago
And what are YOU going to do instead?
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@JacobJ4746
18 days ago
Well I’m not going to tell everyone to essentially to give up and just let the west fall, which you ST-TV, seem to be way on board with Cat on this.
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@3xchann
19 days ago
Say what you want about Nick Fuentes but he’s right about women.
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@jimbojones15757
19 days ago
I think Fuentes is cringe about women. But its hard to argue that he’s wrong when you watch interviews like this
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@3xchann
19 days ago
Yeah that’s exactly what I was hinting at. She is such a defeatist, like we care for a metaverse over the well being of our people ? If whites go extinct I want the world go to shit. Why help non-whites so they have a future while we don’t. It doesn’t make sense.
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@jnl
20 days ago
I love Cat’s music, she has an incredible voice, and she has done a lot for our people. But she’s entirely wrong that the most important issue is Covid and everything else should be put on the sideline. The most important issue is, was, and always will be, the future and wellbeing of our people. Covid stuff is just one tiny issue along the way.
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@Vesper
20 days ago
The future of our people is the most important issue and always will be but Covid is not a tiny issue at all. Most people are very clearly willing to do whatever the government says so there is no reason for them to stop this.
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@philosophicat
19 days ago
If you want to ensure white people survive, then you need to ensure they don’t get jabbed. If you want to ensure white culture survives, you need to resist the NWO.
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@t34p4rty
19 days ago
If you lose the covid vax pass battle its game over, there will be no race, white or otherwise. To argue otherwise is just midwit
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@jnl
19 days ago
Where are you getting the idea from that the covid vax will eradicate the human species? Seriosuly, where?
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@antientropy901
15 days ago
He didn’t say it “will eradicate the human species.”
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@motardpdx
19 days ago
Women should not be elevated in the nationalist movement on platforms catering to white men, incels, simps, MGTOW, etc. Women express their sexuality without prudence, this mechanism of control is used as a distraction away from the ideological truth we all hold so dear to us, especially during this time of year during Millenniyule.
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@ShlomoFinkelshnoz
19 days ago
Men want to fix the racial foundations of our civilization for the next 1000 years. Women want to complain to the manager about the most recent inconvenience. When Covid ends they’ll just distract you with something else sweetheart.
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@Karl_Taranis
17 days ago
She’s saying that covid will lead to vax passports and digital IDs. Once these are implemented to everyone, we’ve lost all of our freedoms and forget about being a dissident and fighting for your people – you’ll be in the gulag with you family or dead. This is final battle in the war, and we can’t lose.
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@Beavis-N-Butthurt
1 hour ago
Where is your evidence that this will happen ?
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@Tyler
20 days ago
There is a differance between being willing to work with other groups and proclaming demographics a lost cause; one is pragmatic and the other is defeatist.
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@philosophicat
19 days ago
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@reconzfury
20 days ago
ill tell you I love that you have Phiosophicat every year. To her credit shes not as feminist and behind as she once was. But she is still always behind on things that matter. Her argument through this whole video is “Give up ground, with good optics”. Its interesting that these type of conservatives (because thats essentially all she is) dont ever seem to think that the Covid issue wasnt used because of the postive effect we were having in the pro white sphere against the system. By introducing this global issue it makes many dissidents move backeards to thwre lolbertarian priors instead of continuing to fight where we are having an impact. This is another example of conservatives giving up ground bexause it doesnt “look good”.
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
This comment was slimed to death.
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@JacobJ4746
20 days ago
Then you’re a defeatist Cat. You’re alone in your own ideas, mostly. You’re better off signing up to be a Republican than you are being in dissident circles.
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
I’ma defeatist for pointing out the reality that white birth rates are a minority in white countries and that 80%+ of white people stupidly got vaccinated? Okay, then.
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@JacobJ4746
20 days ago
Yes, you are Cat. You’re pretty much admitting it with that stupid comment of yours
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@reconzfury
20 days ago
Its always nice that you respond to comments I appreciate you doing that this isnt the first one of my comments you have responded to though I was under different names before. My opinion of you will always be in all honesty that you are great with music and your takes on astrology are great. When it comes to this stuff after 15 plus years of you being active yes I would say that your takes on things really always seem to be behind. Your take on this show in particular this year is indistiguishable from american conservatives.
This case you were essientially making is that we should like not kick black people out of our anti covid rallies? ….as if that is even an issue to begin with? Like thats the new issue we need to focus on not white replacement? To me is very silly. I dont see any blacks and jews going out of there way to unite with white people to stand up against this “covid tyranny” yet once again it has to be white people who let there gaurd down for the betterment of other people right?
And dont get me wrong im all for strategic retreat its just I have to ask what world are you living in in the last few years where we havent been gaining ground especially in america for pro white activism? I mean are we living in 2 diffrent circles? we must be. Yours is conservative and mine is third postionist because as far as I can see we are having more of an impact then any anti covid activism especially in american to date. Is it because the GOP is lame now that you percieve it as a hopless cause? Myabe it has to do with the FinkleThink fake Nationalist leaders all over europe that have accomplished nothing for conservatives? Im not really sure where you have been the last few years if you see it all as so negative for white unity.
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
I have seen plenty of people of many different races at rallies. Why would I want to kick them out? That’s ridiculous.
As for America, I’ve barely lived there in my adult life and I’m not overly invested in what happens there, but from what I can see, pro-white activism hasn’t gained much ground at all and has been pretty stagnant for decades.
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@reconzfury
20 days ago
@philosophicat
I think you missed the point I was making sorry for all the typos I tried to fix them. What I was saying was the postion you seem to be taking during the show is we need to focus on working with non whites to stop “covid tyranny” essentially by…? making sure not to kick them out of our majority white covid rallies lol ? umm… instead of continuing to gain ground in pro white community building and causes? On its face it just sounds very very funny because that as far as I can tell isnt even an issue that needs to be brought up. Seems totslly irrelivant. People can come and go to Covid rallies just fine regardless of who or what race. White people are still under attack explicitly though that hasnt stopped. As for pro white activism in america I mean your totally way off on that its never been better seems the same way in europe to. Thats why I just dont even understand how you have this perception that things arent going anywhere like Im seeing the total opposite from my view.
I would also really like you to consider as I originally stated that the system is using covid authoritarianism as such an obvious over step that it makes people give up the real fight of racial survival and instead focus on big tent libertarian stuff. I think that makes way more sense as to the reasons they are going so hard on this in white countries in particular. They want you to foght on big tent grounds because pro white grounds were becoming to effective.
My other point would be part of your problem is Evola lol and im a little confused because on one hand your like big brain evola gang and then you become an empiricist all of a sudden and are like emotions suck you need facts? I mean first off Evola was a nerd who did essentially nothing besides inspire men of action to actuslly do something and when he purity spiralled to much they essentially sidelined him because intellectuals never do anything but sperg all day and thats not productive at all.
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@blueyye
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This ended up being much more than a casual discussion about the years events. A lot of us have taken Philosophicat’s position that covid tyranny should be issue #1 (Wayoftheworld, Morgoth, Dave Cullen, etc), but I think she gave the best defense of it that I’ve heard yet. I’m not going to stop trying to red-pill anyone in my vacinity when an anti-white commercial comes on the TV, but she’s certainly changed my opionion somewhat on this issue.
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@blueyye
20 days ago
Western Europe can absolutely still maintain their demographic majority.
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@PoxPopuli
20 days ago
It doesn’t have to be either/or. All people like Cat are saying is that we need to form a united front against this Great Reset/Covid restrictions, and not simply ignore it or downplay it. Immigration and the great replacement are still important.
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
I still point out these things, too. But tbh, what I’ve found is that it’s a lot easier to red-pill someone on Covid than it is to red-pill them on just about any other pet issue of the right. If you can red-pill someone on Covid, you have a greater chance of later successfully bringing up those other issues. But if you poison the well with your “racism” first, they won’t listen to you about anything.
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@MrQuestion
20 days ago
She’s right and I’ve said the same for a while now. Demographic change was obviously never the ultimate end of the elite. They want total control, and the Great Reset is their big push.
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@jnl
20 days ago
They’ve already had total control since the end of WW2 you moron.
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@MrQuestion
18 days ago
You’re completely naive if you think what we’ve lived under the last several decades was ‘absolute control’. Frankly I don’t even know how to respond to this level of stupidity.
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@jnl
18 days ago
Societal control under the illusions of “Capitalism” and “Democracy” and “Freedom” are infinitely more effective than whatever delusional fears of Communism you have.
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@Alternative_Voices_Portal
20 days ago
Antiwhitism (including instinctive antiwhite hate) is a real thing.
The evil can’t help but want to destroy what inspires envy and a sense of inferiority in themselves.
Besides that, the oligarchs know from history that Westernkind has its breaking point when it comes to tyranny. So we’re quite an obstacle for their lust for total control.
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18 days ago
Philosophicat hold to the views
of her LORD – Evola – who thought of Race as the left think of Gender, interchangeable basically. Why are people suprised then that Philosophicat holds the same views
, driving her to say “The war on demographics is lost” – she never had a dog in that fight in the first place. A Typical WOMAN, specifically like the white blondes who pair up with Negro’s and later wonder where their life went wrong.
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@Arcessitor
4 days ago
Bruh, this is some schizoposting.
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@Tigerider
2 days ago
And yet you can’t say its not true. She lives in a third world country now and has no children, for her the war is over.
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@Arcessitor
1 day ago
I can’t say true or untrue, because it’s schizoposting. Whatever is right or wrong about it is completely incomprehensible, as there is no semblance of normal, logical thought in there. It’s a completely chaotic mess full of non sequiturs. If you read that and you got any sort of message or narrative out of there, then kudos to you, but also, you probably need meds.

@Tigerider
8 hours ago
Its not schizo, you only need to understand Evola’s view on race to understand what was said.
Evola thought of race as based in the spirit and soul, therefore according to him, you could have a black with a white soul and a white with a chinese soul, etc. Therefore race does not matter in the material and can be changable as determined by action (spirit). Philosophicats entire outlook and channel is based on Evolas views
, no doubt she thinks the same as him on race as well – which is why she can so easily abandon demographics as an issue. She never believed in demographics as per Evola’s views
. The last bit about negro’s and blondes is probably about an example as to the poor judgement of women.
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@woodsmith
19 days ago
in both the battle for our race and the battle for freedom and bodily sovereignty, we are pitted against largely the same forces. I believe there is no benefit to think of them as separate battles – the enemy you fight in one is the enemy you fight in the other. that is, our opponent is the body of the beast, the beast itself; not necessarily its limbs or tools it wields.
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@JonathanBowden
20 days ago
Oh, God, her laugh is horrendous.
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@ChainReaction
1 day ago
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@CaesarAvg
20 days ago
I saw the ‘pro-Covax’ and ‘anti-Covax’ arguments play out on the DR earlier, but they seem to me to be decreasing over time as even the more ‘pro-Covax’ content creators like Keith Woods have began to erase that part of their history and/or stop commenting about it or, as in Morgoth’s case, effectively switch sides. There is an emerging consensus on the DR that the media narrative on Covid is to some varying degree false.
I don’t believe that Covid vs. demographic replacement as the chief issue will become a serious division in the DR. It likely is already abating, with the ‘pro-Covax’ crowd now in a clear minority. One could make this same argument but consider instead how it affects the predominant Left-liberal ideology instead of us. Pre-Covid, they had a dilemma between considering climate change or systemic racism as their primary issue. Covid has now entered, making this choice a trilemma. And yet it hasn’t divided them nor slowed down their momentum in any way. There are no splits on the Left between Covid alarmists, climate alarmists and ‘anti-racists’ in the way that there were clear divisions between pro-EU or anti-EU Leftists.
Our movement has greater problems with microcosms of the world’s religious and economic problems being played out within. Christians against pagans against atheists. Or nationalist capitalists against nationalist socialists against NazBols. Or, till the next French election, pro-Zemmour and anti-Zemmour factions; the former who think that he is one of the few ‘good’ ones and that his ethnicity should be overlooked; the latter who have good reason to think that he is as bad as the rest.
Nor do I believe that prioritizing Covid over ethnonationalism and all other core DR causes and ideologies is in any way sensible. Since Cat claims that all arguments in this regard appeal to emotions, I am going to provide one that is rational in a response to this comment because of the character limit.
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@CaesarAvg
20 days ago
Whatever Covid is, various attempts at explanation can be bifurcated into two genera.
Firstly, let us assume that Covid and the Covax is all that the mainstream tell us it is. That Covid is real and the Covax works. Explanations in this genus (e.g., Covid is the result of Chinese people eating infected bats; Covid is an escaped bioweapon from Wuhan) all lead to one outcome: that in retrospect, all of the time and effort that has been put into discussing this topic by people like Martinez will be both an embarrassment and a waste of time, a mere distraction from real problems. So if this genera contains the correct explanation, prioritizing Covid over standard DR causes or ideologies will clearly be viewed as a mistake in hindsight.
Secondly, let us assume that Covid and Covax is what the ‘conspiracy theorists’ tell us it is, following Cat’s reasoning. That Covid is either fake or overblown; that the Covax is something malicious (e.g. the Covax will in the long-term be revealed to be a slow-acting poison or sterilization agent for population control purposes). These also all lead to one outcome: that the conspirators behind this have been so remarkably successful in this deliberate plot that an informal big tent group such as ourselves, that has been unable to resolve any of our issues no matter how slowly they unfold, cannot possibly solve this one which has progressed far quicker.
Cat has indeed decided that something is unique about this problem, such that we need to form a coalition with anyone who is opposed to this plot. Yet Whites did not need the help of non-whites to repel the Mongols, Moors or Turks, or to survive the Black Plague. What then has changed? But let us follow Cat’s reasoning further and assume that this problem indeed necessitates us being instrumentally ‘anti-jab’, ‘anti-lockdown’, ‘anti-mask’, ‘anti-elite’, etc. until the problem has gone, at which point we can return to classic DR issues. Continued below:
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@CaesarAvg
20 days ago
Yet the DR itself cannot openly join the opposition simply because this helps the plotters: it further allows them to label all of their enemies as ‘Far-Right Nazis’ as both of you have noted earlier. It would be thus counterproductive to formally declare the DR anti-plot. Thus Cat’s reasoning is that we only really have one way to contribute to opposing it: we must instrumentally blend in with the standard opposition and redirect all of our time and energy into fighting it.
Need I remind people, however, that such an ‘optical’ or ‘optics cucking’ approach has not worked for any other DR issues. It has not worked for Fuentes and America First; Taylor and American Renaissance, Patrick Casey and ‘Restoring Order’, etc. If we cannot resolve any of our ‘classic’ issues using optical or entryist methods, it is strange to suggest that it will suddenly work for this one specific issue. If the ideas within this genus turn out to be correct (that the Covax will indeed turn out to be for depopulation purposes), it is worth remembering that billions of people have already been vaxxed. They are then already dead men walking; most of the planet will be infertile, enslaved, dead, etc. within years. If we cannot stop issues that have developed over the course of decades or centuries, ask yourselves how well we will fare against a problem that has unfolded so rapidly less than two years ago? Again, we arrive at a dead end: they’ve decisively won before anyone realized they were at war with us, and we’re just cataloguing the unravelling of their plot to small audiences largely pushed to the deep web… by the plotters’ own deplatforming.
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@CaesarAvg
20 days ago
To conclude, whatever Covid is, neither conclusion I have reached relies on an appeal to emotion nor on any other kind of argumentative fallacy.
If there is no plot, Covid is for us merely a distraction that will be viewed as an embarrassing waste of time in hindsight, only contributing further to us being viewed as ‘conspiracy loons’, etc.
If there is a plot, Covid is for us a problem that greatly exceeds anything we have prior faced. Unable even to reverse moral decline despite its gradual unfolding over centuries, or reverse demographic replacement despite its gradual unfolding over decades, it is obviously unfeasible to reverse a plot that has rapidly unfolded over mere years.
Next, we should keep in mind that globalism/globalization, the consequence of lacking racial or even mere national consciousness, is the precise reason that a ‘global pandemic’ is even believable. How could there ever be a ‘global’ pandemic without this atomized ‘shrinking world’ with fast long-distance travel and lax borders, the same world that we here are all committed to altering? The very thing she suggests we downplay at the moment for optical reasons happened also to be the very thing that would have made the Covid plot unfeasible to begin with. A global pandemic simply would not exist in a nationalist world.
Lastly, we should also consider the unintended consequences of too close an association with those whose arguments for being ‘anti-vax’ and so forth stem from libertarian ideologies. Deng justified to the CPC Left his capitalist revisionism by claiming that they would return to socialism at some later time after China gets wealthier… just as Cat claims we will return to our core issues after a ‘post-Covid’ world is realized. Yet whether it was his intent or not, Deng ended up taking the CPC down a path of no return. Building bridges to people whose ideologies ours have already transcended can lead to ideological regression and future divisions.
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
20 days ago
the Covid demonstratios are ridiculous. This is a good time to complain about immigration. Covid is imported, and the only way to stop it is stopping immigration
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@Vesper
20 days ago
You took the vax.
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@Fascist-Freddy
19 days ago
“I’m not religious I’m spiritual” What does this mean? I’ve heard it before. If you don’t believe in the Holy Spirit, then what spirit do you believe in?
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@EustaceBagg
11 days ago
A religion is a set of specific rules, strictures, celebrations and particular entities, that requires a preservation of textual or oral information to perpetuate. Religious authorities are needed to maintain ideological purity and interpret oral or textual information ‘appropriately’.
Spirituality is a general belief in the supernatural. A god or gods, consciousness and life permeating every atom of reality. That schizotypal view that everything happens at the behest of someone or something’s will, nothing is truly coincidence, nothing is truly accidental, etc.
Of course, there’s tremendous overlap. Everyone who follows a religion (by the strictest definition of the word), is spiritual. They believe in unseen entities watching them and fucking around with them and the world at large…for some reason.
Not everybody who is spiritual, has a religion though. You can believe in unseen entities without giving them Hebrew names.
What spirit does she believe in? I have no idea. Just as you don’t need to give your pet entities Hebrew names, you don’t need to give them any names or properties at all. A sort of agnostic spirituality.
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@Tyler
20 days ago
The demographics battle has only been lost when we have been eliminated, before that it will be a continuing fight as we fight becoming an even smaller minority. Increasingly convinced that this woman is a rediculous person.
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@Fascist-Freddy
20 days ago
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– I don’t know what she’s talking about, because she’s a woman. She’s still high on the progessive stack and is privileged and protected. She gets affirmative action. Try being a White male.
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@Wibble
20 days ago
I joined live but late, just as chat were having a mass attack of the vapours and swooning en-masse….
“I didn’t like what she said about XXX…SHUN HER…DESTROY HER!”
You guys…..you are going to be left with a very very small movement if you keep shunning everyone who doesn’t match your ideals on every point…
You’ll probably be in a movement of 1…..and they you’ll argue with yourself about something….then never speak to yourself again…
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@JacobJ4746
20 days ago
Christ you’re an idiot. She was basically saying “give up on Demographics and just focus on covid!” How tf did you expect majority of people to react to that?
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
Because Covid is the thing they are currently using to focus their attack on us. Previously, it was immigration. But the immigration was intended to break down our societies so we would be less resistant to the “pandemic”. And the “pandemic” will make us less able to fight back against whatever their next step is.
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@Wibble
20 days ago
That ship sailed in the 1960’s
There is absolutely nothing the man in the street can do to change that, people have tried, and talked the talk ever since then with absolutely zero results.
Hate to say it, but she’s right.
Maybe with a minor miracle, a party may come into power, and remain in power for the next 40 or 50 years to reverse that, but its pretty unlikely don’t you think…?
Oh and the second you start spitting out personal insults you concede the argument…
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@JacobJ4746
19 days ago
Okay defeatist
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@Wibble
18 days ago
Realist…based of decades of personal experience
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@JacobJ4746
18 days ago
Sure whatever you say defeatist
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
Many of them WANT to be isolated losers. It is important to understand that and separate such people out from those who want to win. The losers revel in being outcasts and they don’t actually want normal people to join their fringe club. And the reason they are outcasts is largely because they are unable to get along with others. So leave them to their feminine histrionics and focus instead on those who want to win. Those who want to win may disagree on things, but they don’t waste time arguing over who gets to be in their “club”.
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@Wibble
19 days ago
I think you are correct, some of them really get into their purity spiral…
“We’re so hard core, so pure, there’s only three of us, and we don’t allow new members into our mini club…oh wait…two of us now, Steve just said something I didn’t like”
And yes, it does seem very feminine doesn’t it? I wonder about the age of many? There just zero maturity in their arguments, and they are arguments not debates or discussions, it’s all tears and tantrums, no emotional control or reason, just swearing and rants…
I have a friend of over 30 years, very lefty in many respects, but we have a ton of fun sparring with each other, we’ve never sworn at each other and usually laugh whilst doing it, something many of your detractors would find impossible to do, as I say, maybe its maturity, i’m am getting on in years…hah
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@DanIbsen
19 days ago
This isn’t even close to what I’m seeing in the comments.
It seems to be almost unanimous that almost anything can be looked past except one thing, we don’t abandon fighting for a homeland for our peoples.
This isn’t a case of a purity spiral, it is a case of the last line drawn in the sand.
Do you for some reason expect people to have a debate or discussion on the question of if we should fight for the existance of our people? I sure don’t, because it is an axiomatic cornorstone of why they care about all the other issues. Thus no debate is going to be had over this issue, it will be pure emotion and the one topic they will react the strongest to.
We can debate the validity of taking in allying with gay people, black people, brown people, muslims, if we want a monarchy, democracy, fascism, wellfare state, the patchwork of a thousand cities, gun rights, etc.
But the one thing that will always trigger pure emotion will be saying that demographic replacement is over and that we should move on. Because if that cornorstone is removed, then the reason to care about all those other issues disappears as those don’t happen to your group but someone elses.
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@Wibble
19 days ago
Hey i hope we get to waive immigrants a fond farewell as they bugger off back to where they came from…..
But I’ve been hoping that for decades and far from seeing any glimmer of that happening, or any political party coming to power to make this happen…..there’s nothing…
In fact the opposite is happening and has been happening, as i say, since the 60’s….
And it is getting worse….even with the covid restrictions…more and more cross the borders every week…
So…how much longer do I continue to hope??
Or do I say This is never going to happen, pick another battle…?
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@DanIbsen
19 days ago
I responded regarding your characterization of responses as purity spiralling and emotional.
I didn’t make any claim to how it is going or what you should do.
Sure you can say “This is never going to happen, pick another battle”, but you should already know my answer to this as it is quite clear from the previous post.
I don’t care about the other battles if it means accepting that there isn’t a future for my people, and this is the general sentiment of the comment section. And this is why this is my main focus despite having lost hope in it myself, but that doesn’t mean you just roll over.
We can talk about putting it on the back burner as a matter of pursuation, tactics, optics, strategic retreat or any other reason, but it doesn’t stop being the fundamental goal and driving force of why the other battles matter.
If the demographic replacement is just marked as lost, then all the other battles become empty and just another white mans burden of improving the world for those who aren’t us.
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@Wibble
19 days ago
Yeah i can agree with that, putting it on the back burner, hopefully the times will change and we can bulk buy one way tickets for our unwanted house guests.
As i say, I believe, at least for now, demographic replacement is a lost battle, it’s only worsened year on year since the 60’s.
Any political party is crushed, any grass roots movement will be swept away, you are up against the full weight of the state, so you are really going to struggle to get any noticable success, this is why i say pick another battle…
Of course all this is possibly moot, you cannot have any kind of welfare state with open borders, so maybe as that collapses, and the immigrants free hand-outs cease, they may head for pastures new?
Although from what i’ve seen, i suspect the hand outs will only end for those that have paid into the state their entire life, whilst the migrants will still live a life of luxury at the tax payers expense? Certainly seems to be what I’m seeing here in EU land today.
Going to be an interesting next few years.
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@DanIbsen
19 days ago
When taking everything else I’ve heard and read from you into account, I don’t believe you mean this the way that it is coming off.
This comment is coming off very red team – blue team like.
“What are we fighting for?”
“Don’t know, but we are winning against the red team and I really want to win”
“Go team blue”
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@Beavis-N-Butthurt
1 hour ago
Cat, what real world work have you done to fight these issues ?
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@cmsarpedon
17 days ago
She is EXACTLY the “Im spiritual, but not religious” stereotype
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@DanIbsen
19 days ago
Finally watched it to the end and in many ways she reminds me of Panama Hat in “Ride the Tiger” hosted by Academic Agent.
Start out by saying something defeatist where the obvious interpretation is to abandon the fight for ensuring your ingroups survival.
Clarify it to just be a tactic and the long term goal still being the survival of the ingroup.
Repeat those steps until the viewer have no idea what her position really is.
Is she formulating herself badly?
Is she trolling the viewers?
Or is she simply shielding herself from the backlash?
I ended up feeling that all these possibilities were equally likely.
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@philosophicat
19 days ago
Probably just formulating it badly. It was not my intention to have that be the bulk of the discussion and so it was not a topic I had prepared to speak on. I generally don’t do well if I have to speak off the top of my head and haven’t thought first about what I want to say and what the best way is to say it.
But the fact is, you won’t be able to fight for your survival within a tightly controlled smart city under total surveillance. Ergo, fight tyranny now so that you still have the option of fighting for your people later.
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@Holocaust
20 days ago
Christ is King…
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@Bukitburg
19 days ago
Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi
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@lagud
18 days ago
learn more…
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@lagud
18 days ago
When Pilate saw that he was not succeeding at all,
but that a riot was breaking out instead,
he took water and washed his hands in the sight of the crowd
saying, “I am innocent of this man’s blood.
Look to it yourselves.”
And the crowd of Jews said in reply,
“His blood be upon us and upon our children”
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@lancebiggums
20 days ago
i won’t dislike to express disagreement with the guest, but I disagree about giving up on resisting white replacement
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@georgie173148
20 days ago
I think Cat’s position is being misinterpreted.
Europeans are now a diaspora. As a diaspora members can BOTH engage in activism to combat totalitarianism AND engage in activism to support White Wellbeing.
Jason and Jared are un-demoralising more and more people every week.
Going Free groups are proliferating. There is a website for teaching children about Westpeople and their history and culture. People like Jared and Fornelius are keeping the European Bio-spirit alive with their music. Other people are going rural and networking.
There is a positive future available.
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@Bearcingetorix
13 days ago
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@Bearcingetorix
13 days ago
What can be said that hasn’t been said about this oddly masculine (mostly autistic) poseur already within the comments? The white pill is most men clearly see through this… bitchy grifter. She takes pleasure in being contrarian, she enjoys pissing men off while denying her intent. She’s overly pessimistic, while demanding optimism, claims agency, yet denies agency, claims spirituality, denies religiosity, a walking contradiction and a creature of spite. She gets off on shaming men, while accepting no responsibility, and demanding equality while expecting to be dominated. Anyone who takes this… narcissist… seriously is deluded. Is there anything worse than a female who doesn’t know her place? The men who defend them and put up with their crap I suppose.
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@Marsupilami
19 days ago
Everyone who does not get Philosophicat’s argument is just strategically inapt. Prepare for martyrdom, but don’t expect to win.
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@JacobJ4746
19 days ago
spoken like a true retarded simp
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@Marsupilami
18 days ago
Trust the plan!
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@JacobJ4746
18 days ago
yeah, cat’s I assume huh?
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@Marsupilami
17 days ago
Nah, it was just some bs of mine, sorry.
What of here arguments are flawed?
Do you think whites should turn the tables alone? in my home country at least 70% of whites are pro vaxx, pro mass immigration… they can’t think critically.
I was shocked by the dictatorship the people behind the government are erecting, but the harder shock was how absolute obtuse my folks are.
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@JacobJ4746
2 days ago
2nd reply. You can harp on all you want about covid, about the fuckin vaccines, but unless you have a real plan, that’s not just autistically put together to the point it’s not even coherent, everything that you and cat are proposing is absolute shit. You, and especially cat are calling this “strategic”. There’s nothing strategic about this. It’s all opinions, it’s all “Oh well I think x or y would be nice” and that’s about it. That’s all there is to this so called “strategy”.
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@JacobJ4746
2 days ago
1st reply
Okay, let’s see what your “side” is autistically proposing.
1. Give up on the west, cause vaccinations.
2. Fly off to who the hell knows where, cause shit is bad.
3. Also still somehow fight covid while partnering with a mythical number of nonwhites that don’t exist (only some would extend their hands to partner up), yet fly off to who the hell knows where and somehow still fight covid?
Did you or anyone else like you ever take the time to think this through?
So you’ll be fighting covid how exactly? You’ve screwed off to where the covid crap doesn’t exist, so idk how tf you’re suppose to fight anything when you’ve ran away from the fight itself.
I also fail to see how you’ll manage to do anything with the realistically small amounts of nonwhites who’ll be willing to set aside their in group preferences over Covid. Again talking about probably some hundreds, or less, nowhere close to thousands.
And again, you’re also proposing to screw off to where governments aren’t enforcing lock downs and vaccines. How tf are you going to accomplish anything when you’ve decided to RUN AWAY?
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@JacobJ4746
2 days ago
3rd Reply. What do you think would happen? That these hostile governments would just let you back in? Or that with this”space” in some random country will give you time to think or plan? Why TF shouldn’t the planning be happening here in the west? You know where the fight is actually happening! What changes or impact are some handfuls of non-whites going to have exactly? I’ve had many people respond to me on telegram over Cats proposed “partnership”, going back and forth from “Oh it’s about numbers!” to “Look it’s not about numbers!” I’ve had idiots from your “side” tie themselves into knots because this is all incoherent opinions being promoted as “strategy”.
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@Marsupilami
1 day ago
All I’m saying is stay ethnocentric, but still cooperate with or at least use other ethnicities that oppose patronizing governments.
White is not enough, by the way. Most of my fellow whites are the biggest problem, like e.g. 80% of the politicians and the people who voted for them.
What is your plan, btw?
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@Asha
5 days ago
Having brown grandchildren is not winning.
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@Marsupilami
5 days ago
No way it is. And Philosophicat is expressis verbis NOT talking about marrying interacially.
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@Asha
4 days ago
Delegitimising the importance of preserving our destinct genetic identity by referring to such efforts as “petty demographic squabbles” seems to sit more in favour of miscegenation than not.
Obviously she doesn’t actually support racemixing (or so one would hope), but she should be careful about using such clumsy, dangerous rhetoric.
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@ShadowCyborg
19 days ago
I agree with her. Fighting against this medical tyranny could bring us much acclaim among the common people. It’s a matter of time before the overton window shifts and the majority of the people realize they have been deceived. People with health problems or deaths in their families are connecting the dots and linking this to the deathvaxx.
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@NorseNature
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@philosophicat
19 days ago
Yes, I could have been more specific. Reclaiming the ethnostate at this point is probably a lost cause for all but eastern Europe. But white people will continue to survive.
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@K
19 days ago
she is 100% correct and all the negative reactions are just copium.
however it is our duty as men to turn lost battles into glorious victories.
we dont have the comfort to indulge in rational pragmatism of “moving on” to other battles. we dont move on. we win or we perish.
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@Tyler
20 days ago
Alinsky’s rules only work against people who care about consistancy and honesty, so we should not assume they will work against the left.
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@TheGrettaresetta
20 days ago
Great convo, I’m glad she didn’t play to the crowd for purely tribal reasons.
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
I will never pander to the crowd!
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@bpillundivided
19 days ago
This is one of the more fun Millenniyules, purely based on how Cat handled herself.
If disagreement entertainment is not a thing – it should be. An untapped niche.
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@lttpxsnjusodutzsyb
19 days ago
What difference does ‘medical tyranny’ make when your people have lost their homeland? My city has been made overwhelmingly Asian during my lifetime; I want the living conditions of the invaders to be dreadful.
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@GeezerGaming
20 days ago
I get where she’s coming from on the “join forces thing,” but, in practice, it seems like whites will be marching in the streets to protest tyranny while the magical people will be either jumping them the second they turn around and/or smashing Nordstrom jewelry cases while the shock troops descend on the peaceful whites. I’m just very skeptical about what “cooperation” will amount to RN. Things are getting a little too crazy a little too fast to hold out any hope for that. It may just be circle the wagons time. Sorry for the black pill.
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@Karl_Taranis
17 days ago
you’ll like when Blackpill is a guest of Collins in a couple days.
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@GeezerGaming
15 days ago
I like Devon. I’m incredibly envious of his 3D animation chops.
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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
20 days ago
This stream was the best of the day, because of the shitstorm it created.
God I love Christmas.
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
Lol, I’m glad I didn’t ruin your Christmas!
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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
20 days ago
Wouldn’t be christmas without a family argument.
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@Asha
5 days ago
“Petty demographic squabbles”?
Aside from the truly defeatist underestimation on the reversability of our genocide, her comments on Peterson are spot on.
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@peil2451
12 days ago
Philosophicat has done wondeful work. Her Evola series is a masterpiece.
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@MrQuestion
18 days ago
She is obviously right in saying that the imminent medical tyranny has to be defeated first. Dissent would become impossible under the techocratic control grid that is intended to come in through the vaccine passport.
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
This movement is not in condition to fight ANYTHING. We have NOTHING to fight them with.
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@MrQuestion
18 days ago
There are a lot of people who oppose medical tyranny, and who are now perhaps more amenable to hearing other anti-system truths as a result of this current overreach by the elite.
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
Going out on the street with a sign is not resistanse. Multibilliondollar legal firms together suing every level of government is resistanse.
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@MrQuestion
18 days ago
Check out France. What’s happening there is a little bit more than just holding signs.
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
I have, they have been protesting for 3 years now and it has brought them NOTHING.
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@JacobJ4746
18 days ago
retarded doomer arguing
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@ST-TV
18 days ago
Yet you didn’t even have a single argument against me.
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@JacobJ4746
14 days ago
“Give up! Give up! lol u don’t have a single argument against me! Yes I’m a retard!”
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@ST-TV
14 days ago
You are the retarted one here.
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@JacobJ4746
1 day ago
“I’m not u are!” Damn what a comeback!
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@dakotajoe
19 days ago
Mandates for COVID vaccine aren’t allowed in my state, life has gone on in a relatively normal fashion. I’ve had family members give birth to healthy children.
The lockdowns have only improved my life because I can work remotely and moved to a lower cost of living area while keeping my job which has put more money into my pockets. Not locked forced to commute to a soul-sucking corporate office has improved my well-being.
I’m currently opposed to COVID vaccine mandates but is it medical tyranny to mandate the smallpox vaccine? Being anti-vax used to be the domain of Hollywood and Portland, Oregon…I guess times have changed.
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@MrQuestion
18 days ago
The mRNA injection is nothing like a normal vaccine, has zero long term safety data and is being mandated by employers which is unprecedented.
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@dakotajoe
18 days ago
Not all the vaccines are mRNA.
I took the Johnson and Johnson which isn’t mRNA – never felt better in my life 2 days after a trained professional administered the antidote.
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@Karl_Taranis
17 days ago
So are you going to do the booster now, because after six months they say you need a booster or you’re not vaxed. I took the J n J too, but no way am i doing a booster. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
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@dakotajoe
16 days ago
most likely no booster for me at this point.
The newer variants are reportedly weaker and they lost my trust a long time ago.
More available treatments post-infection lower the need for vaccine further.
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@Charles1625
19 days ago
An excellent interview with a very perceptive, intelligent guest.
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@Tyler
20 days ago
Most of the people I see protesting the vaccine are white
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@Karl_Taranis
17 days ago
BLM had a protest against the vax passport measures at restaurants in NYC during the summer. I’m no fan of BLM, but would join with them on this issue, plus they have billions of dollars.
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@JacobJ4746
13 days ago
you realize they would have you first make some sort of pledge to their own true “causes” than go along with you simply over Covid?
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@Tyler
20 days ago
Andrew Anglin as he brings covid to the forfront sill has the demographic clock on the stormer at all times, so kinda silly to compare yourself to him if you see demographics as a lost cause.
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@tRad_Dad
20 days ago
The bottom line is non whites have ALOT to gain from this era where liberal democracy has targeted white dignity, safety and prosperity to transfer onto others. Philosophicat wants us to alli with anyone who will stand with Us but non whites aren’t choosing to because Uncle Sam is in the process of showering & pampering them.
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@3xchann
19 days ago
PC is a civ nat who doesn’t understand that fighting against a metaverse is not something worth fighting for. No matter what happens, when whites are a minority we are fucked whether the elites are in power or not. It’s ironic that someone who is a philosopher doesn’t seem to grasp the importance of preserving white ethnic identity.
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@MiddleClassTwit
20 days ago
Whatever you think of Cat’s suggestion, something just happened there. And then there was the next guest talking about Agenda 21 and all that. Did Woes have a cunning plan?
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@philosophicat
20 days ago
We actually did not plan to discuss that subject in such depth. We actually had like two other topics to cover that we didn’t even get to.
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@topper
20 days ago
Will these discussions be posted elsewhere? Odysee is so infuriating as a platform as to be untenable. On neither web nor app is it possible to do anything but listen from the start. Any attempt to rewind or fast forward results in the sound cutting out for five minutes at a time.
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@robsfield
20 days ago
Allegedly, you can use something like the “YoutubeDL” bot on telegram to grab an offline copy of odysee videos. And the android VLC app will let you play them audio only like a podcast. Or so I’ve heard that’s what the kids are doing these days
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@formflowlightshadow
5 days ago
Bitchute
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@Iagree
5 days ago
“petty demographic problems”??
very clumsy
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@PoliTrek
6 days ago
I want to say I respect Philosophicat, I think she is intelligent and has made valuable contributions. But frankly this video is a great example of why some decisions regarding fundamental civilizational direction is best left to men. The demographic question is basically the keystone to everything else. If anything the covid stuff is a distraction from the central demographic issues. Keeping the dialogue up about the past, and where things went wrong is important because it builds a narrative of historical evidence of why we are correct. Those past revisionist points connect to paint a picture, and it is relevant because it build the world we have today. Covid rules exist to further their agenda of replacement.
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@Alexander
10 days ago
Classic. “If we have more non Whites at anti lockdown rallies, then it’s harder for them to call us extreme neo Nazis”. According to this quote all our struggle from 1945 onward has been irrelevant because it’s only White people engaging in preserving our countries. Maybe we should ‘recruit’ non Whites to fight for us, right? And to fight for our children, and for the 14 words? Trans racialism is a thing apparently, perhaps some of us should sacrifice and change their race lmao
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@Alexander
10 days ago
She’s so quick to throw demographics under the bus yet she will NEVER, not in 1 MILLION years, move to a minority White neighborhood. And as SOON as a black guy will hit on her, she will go home, cry in her bedroom and think “these people are savages, where are all the white men?!”
These people will only realize what is going on once “diversity” kicks them in the face, literally.
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@Alleric
12 days ago
This woman needs to be kicked to the Tories where she belongs.
I can’t believe what I just heard. If our women keep defaulting on the slightest of road bumps, they’ll need to be cast out completely and should we gain victory, they actually need to be enslaved and never be allowed to make societal decisions again. I consider her treasonous now. Either we as a race have women we can depend on or they need to be considered little more than children that are used to create offspring.
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@nixzzo
14 days ago
Everything that is worng with the world in one package.
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@Chadthefamous
15 days ago
when has anyone on the right protested demographic replacement? they protested statues and stolen election, but never replacement. for you to say stop speaking out on a subject that has never been addressed for another subject is just bullshit. we need to address it all and attack it all. it takes one piece of land to declare a white ethnostate and others will follow. don’t preach about giving up because the left is attacking multiple fronts and so should we.
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@ScythianDragon
17 days ago
Cat is very smart and very pretty
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@SpiritualDiscussion
18 days ago
Only Blood can defeat materialism.
Blood carries the soul, literally.
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@Monkeymakefire
19 hours ago
thought that was in the pancreas…
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@Pacifican
19 days ago
The right must sacrfice fighting yesterday’s battles for power. It must stitch together the schizophrenic and random public attention into a somewhat consistent platform, and even more importantly, an aesthetic.
The left does not have nearly as divergent as a base, in fact as leftists become extreme, they converge on communism. As rightists become more extreme, they diverge: monarchism, anarchism, fascism, etc. We like to be correct, but sometimes we ought to worry less about that and more about winning against what is clearly the enemy.
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@WMSTEOOPAAFFWC
19 days ago
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so we have learned that the scientific method is ‘materialist’ and baseless unempirical superstition is superior, therefore knowledge or truth are unavailable and all such beliefs are equivalent; white replacement is a dead issue, lost already (please ignore France), great reset is a totally separate issue to white genocide, please stop talking about the latter; coronavirus hysteria is all that matters; astrology is very important and interesting; ‘nazism’ is ridiculous and cringe; patriot front are feds; in order to stay out of the gulags ‘we’ must ally with based brown people, trannies, fags and jews because we’re all in this together yuguize, the ‘oligarchs’ are the real enemy; having white-only demonstrations is really bad optics because it makes it easy for the media to call ‘us’ far-right neo-nazis, they can’t do that if the anti-covid demonstration is diverse yuguize (lol); aguments against white replacement are simply reducible to ‘muh feels’ but great reset arguments are not for some reason; demographic trends in certain countries are lost (USA, France), but not in other countries (Poland) because her timeframe is like +/-20-40 years; what is race anyway?; great reset is actually great replacement, please ignore previous remarks (???); ‘we’ must be smart and agile and not too married to ‘lost’ battles, think ‘strategically’ and stop fighting yuguize. ‘loss’ condition = my social media account for attention whoring has been banned. therefore don’t think about race;
seems like an incoherent mess tbh. optics cucking or prioritizing topics for supposedly strategic reasons just allows yourself to undermine or abandon your own purported belief system/issues/political frame, by you or by other hostile actors. hmmm big think.
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@oppoten
19 days ago
I think she seeks to be contrary sometimes, like she thinks she’s too good to hold positions that are commonly held. The sound of her voice is suited to it.
After the UK Column discussion, a lot of this seems pointless tbh. Any change that we could enact is at too low a level to make any real difference.
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@philosophicat
19 days ago
I do enjoy being contrary, but I don’t seek contrariness just for it’s own sake. But yes, I do have an annoying voice, I’ll grant you that.
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@arklowrockz
20 days ago
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that is a good discussion point. It is peculiar the way some folks (particularly the I Fucking Love Science crowd) say they are spiritual (despite the obnoxious annexing of Science as THEIR domain)….does seem to indicate a longing innate to all of us…..
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@theReactoSphere
3 days ago
Philosophicat did nothing wrong! #ibatforthecat
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@ClownworldSquad
3 days ago
Philosophicat is a good example of why women shouldn’t be in leader positions and especially not have a big presence on social-media. Imagine having someone like that in an army – blackpilling everyone and being constantly vague.
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@MelGibsmedat
6 days ago
This is why women were never entrusted with defending Western Civilization, or any society. They immediately default to self-preservation and display all the traits you’d associate with a coward if it were a man. How many children does Philisophicat have? I hope she isn’t just an irreligious cat lady using spirituality as a cope. Calling people NPCs for relying on traditional religion, while you indulge in this ‘spirituality’ nonsense in really cringe.
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@Alexander
10 days ago
Oh stop with the BS. You mentioned Scotland and the White Scots being so compliant with the restrictions and everything. What, do you think that all Whites are compliant? Compliance is mainly a Western European trait that evolved in the last decades. Take a look at Central and Eastern Europe, hell, my home country Romania is basically an ethnostate, with the 2nd largest minority being other Europeans(aka Hungarians), we’re all White here and we’re 37% vaccinated. Look at Belarus, Russia, Austria. And even if most people in other Central/Eastern countries are vaccinated, you still see hundreds of thousands demonstrating in the streets daily. Vaccinated standing with the unvaccinated(in Italy and Austria). Look at the protests in France, Paris, there are barely any non Whites there, and Paris is probably worse off than London, demographically speaking. You don’t see mass protests in the Philippines, Indonesia, or other non White countries affected by this pandemic(there aren’t even that many but still). Whites are the only ones protesting against this.
EDIT: You see more non Whites protesting in Belgium, Brussels because that’s where the EU parliament is and many countries in Europe and the UN send their representatives to. But still, the masses are overwhelmingly White, you might see some non Whites there, mainly gypsies or Albanians, but there are hardly any Arabs or black people there.
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@Weltenesche
10 days ago
This just goes to show once more that it’s a masculine trait to think in the span of generations and a feminine trait to think in the here and now.
Both are important, but if the feminine way of thinking becomes too dominant, we die.
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@DaveDogge
17 days ago
A smart gal, got her head screwed on right. But I’m hearing a lot of problems being highlghted we need solutions and we need them right now – that’s the priority.
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@evropææsthetica
18 days ago
Is anyone else having the sound go out 1/3 through the video? I can’t watch this video on mobile (browser or app) and desktop because the sound disappears. This has happened in other Milleniyules videos for me too.
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@mrsjustinebrown
18 days ago
Yes me too
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@alan_B_stard_M_P
19 days ago
Philosophicat who appears to have stopped reply says

@philosophicat
” I’ll say what I want for whatever reasons I feel like. I think I know more about what my intentions are than you do. “
Quite right dear, correct. and I don’t challenge your intentions. I merely disagree with them. It’s Christmas. and it”s good manners to say so ” Merry Christmas ” to ya
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@DanIbsen
19 days ago
You can resist those things for a higher ideal because they are wrong in and of themselves.
But they are only wrong because they affect people, having draconian Great Reset rules doesn’t mean anything if they aren’t affecting people. And in this regard my primary concern is my people.
So telling me to stop focusing on the demographic replacement to focus on the Great Reset is the same as telling me to abandon my reason to fight in order to fight for the other groups.
We can discuss opposition to the Great Reset as a step in reclaiming our homelands, but if you are telling me it is a lost battle so we should move on then the only thing I’m moving on from is you.
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@Mackai
20 days ago
Yes, best stream of the day, other two chaps were moribund tbh
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@Mackai
20 days ago
Three even
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@lbryguy234
20 days ago
This comment was slimed to death.
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@Arcessitor
4 days ago
This entire video is an “enemy of my enemy is my friend” thing, but the problem is, that saying only works with NEUTRAL parties. Heteroethnics are not neutral, they TOO are our enemies. You cannot fight your enemies WITH your enemies. I’m sorry, but this is predicated on something completely wrong. And yeah, in the NL, Moroccans came out to riot because they’re animals. But the reason they oppose the government isn’t because they hate tyranny, but because they hate rule of law per se. They want a crime-riddled wasteland.
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Way to completely miss the point and basically say “WELL YOURE LIKELY TO DIE OUT ANYWAY, SO TECHNICALLLYYYYYY” I get now why people were irritated seeing this. I suffered up to that point without a hitch, but that’s just pedantic, autistic nonsense.
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@MaidinCornwall
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I agree totally
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@JohnPalmer
17 days ago
Fantastic!
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@t34p4rty
17 days ago
you and Kat need to do the stream on Rules For Radicals! Essential viewing
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@WinstonWolf
18 days ago
Wish I could watch all these.
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@RedPillFrog
18 days ago
U rock my socks, Woes!
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@James
19 days ago
But throwing stones at him is so pleasurable.
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@usofpostamerica
19 days ago
Does anyone else experience the sound dropping out after browsing away from the video and coming back?
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@GigaChad
20 days ago
for the algorithm
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@TheRavensHall
20 days ago
I agree with a lot of what philosophicat on this covid bullshit needs to be stopped or all is lost.
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@Frenjamin
20 days ago
people could get used to covidranny, the covidyranny could end. whats not going away is identity and the current elite are there until there toppled.
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@Monkeymakefire
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but islam is for camel jockeys.
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@ClaireKhaw
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The American Republic was founded on Islamic principles. The First Amendment was based on quran.com/2/256
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@millennialwoes
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No, it is representative of reality. I think you must be mistaken somehow.
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@Daizus
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The enemy of your enemy is not your friend, just another enemy.
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On Antifa – Ernst Nolte’s description of fascism as anti-modern. Then I suppose Antifa’s actions to label any sort of anti-progress as fascist and joining with the state to destroy this opposition as not strange at all. Am I off base here?
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@Fascoracetam
11 days ago
the medical tyranny and the white replacement go hand in hand why do you think they kicked it all off after white identitarian and populist movements started to rise
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@StringfellowHawke
12 days ago
I am so glad you two had this discussion, I totally agree that the medical tyranny has to be tactically placed higher in priority – this is absolutely correct and I don’t see it being discussed anywhere else in our circles…. Great discussion…
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btw – IT IS a nuanced position. It doesn’t say you fight the one to the “absolute” exclusion to the other or that the lower priority tactically is any less valid “on it’s own” as a concern. It simply a way of managing multiple fronts.
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@Butter-Is-Gold-In-The-Cold
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About the Spirit & Soul, I think of it as the Spirit being more mystical than the Soul. Body – Soul – Spirit. Quite like Body – Mind – Consciousness.
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@deemster
17 days ago
The reason we pay heed to old battles is because they are the architecture of our current trajectory… Understanding how it happened is an integral part of moving forward—of avoiding the same pitfalls in the future. This vaxx control agenda is also a great opportunity to wake many Whites up to their suppressed racial consciousness (they’re less comfortable and more skeptical then they’ve been in a long time).
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Golden One, Marcus, lives in Sweden. I think she lives in America now. She’s lived in many places.
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A pity the general population are not as physicalistic as rwers compulsively make them out to be (for they are the precise opposite – consider for example, the rise in popularity of “climate confessionals” wherein one confesses their “sins” against mother gaia [and the associated earth system eschatology]).
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Morgoth’s Review – Paradise Lost and the Birth of the Left – Nov 12, 2021 — Transcript

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[Morgoth discusses the parallels between modern liberalism, the Left, with its focus on rationalising freedom from innate morality and nature, and Milton’s Paradise Lost, an epic poem that tells the story of Lucifer’s rebellion in heaven and the becoming of Satan.

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Paradise Lost and

the Birth of the Left

Nov 12, 2021

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[00:00]

[Intro music and imagery by Theberton.]

[00:34]

Well, hello again there folks.

So I recently saw this post going around by a Left-wing activist. And I thought it says so much. And I was just thinking, how did we arrive here? How did we arrive in these mountains of madness? How did it come that we are now staring straight into the abyss, here? And they have brought us here as well. And I’m not going to leave this up on the screen for too long, because it makes me feel sick!

But let’s just like have a look at what he said here. And we’ll try and answer the question of how we got here:

“Because I’ve got a bunch of angry Right-wing reactionaries saying being a pedophile is wrong and not natural. I’m simply asking they back up their claims. Thus far, not a single one can.”

And so he’s asking for a peer-reviewed study as to why paedophilia is unnatural. Now the first thing here, like let’s just dispense with the sophistry. He’s neglected any kind of moral framework. He’s making an appeal to science. Like a scientific study as to why paedophilia is wrong, because he knows morally speaking he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. And, in fact, he wouldn’t even accept that there is such a thing as morality, because he’s a pure materialist. And this is kind of like where we are. This is where they’ve brought us.

I mean, on other issues, of course, which are more close to their heart, they are the most hyper moral people you will ever come across! But when it’s about being degenerate, when it’s about sending civilization into darkness and into hell, you’ll find all of a sudden they make an appeal to “scientific realism” and even here, he’s wrong.

Because the simple fact is, and this is why I don’t like this subject. But the simple fact is children can’t breed. And it’s not healthy for them to have sex. There’s reasons why we have these blocks. There’s reasons why civilizations set these things up.

But what I think’s very interesting to explore is why the Left don’t seem to have any kind of moral framework. And leaving aside the hypocrisy. Leaving aside that on other issues they are the most hyper-moral clique that you could ever come across. Let’s just take this on face value, because it is, in my view, the driving force of their entire world view, their entire ideology.

So I’ve recently been reading Paradise Lost, John Milton’s great epic poem. And so Paradise Lost is, by the way, there’s also an amazing audiobook on YouTube where the Emperor from Star Wars, Ian McDiarmid, does the role of the devil.

Because, if you are not very familiar with Paradise Lost – I’m sure many people have heard of it – it’s an epic poem that tells the story of Lucifer’s rebellion in heaven. And then the war in heaven and how he and his lieutenants and around about a third of all of the angels in heaven were thrown out! They were defeated and mauled, and thrown out of heaven, to cast down into the abyss!

And one of the things that really jumps out at you is the character of Satan. Which over the centuries – it was written in 1690, I think, so just kind of beyond before the onset of the Enlightenment. And one of the things that jumps out at you when you’re reading Paradise Lost is Satan. And, as I said, been controversial over the years how Milton depicted him. And there’s a lot of discussion around it.

But Satan, in Paradise Lost, he isn’t just kind of this seething demon that wants to roast people over a fire, and do all of these depraved and horrible acts! Satan, you could almost call him an “anti-hero”, or some people would even say the “hero” of Paradise Lost. Which is why there’s so much sort of discussion about it.

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But he’s very charismatic. And he’s a leader of his rogue captains. People like Belial, and Moloch, and Mammon. He’s also prone to making these big, very articulate, grandstanding, speeches in front of his minions, and raging against God. And this, I think, touches on something quite profound. Because you have to ask yourself what is Satan’s main problem here? What is his main bone of contention with God?

And what he has a problem with, beginning right from the start, in heaven is the authoritarian nature of heaven and God. Satan questions how it can be good if they aren’t free. He will say like:

“Why is it that we are in this perfect God-created heaven? And yet we don’t even have individual freedom! We don’t have liberty!”

We live under what he calls “the tyranny of heaven”. And so from Satan’s perspective, and he says it throughout all of the speeches that he makes:

“God is something of a tyrant! God is like the big daddy who you need to have liberty from! You can’t express yourself under the tyranny of heaven! Under the authoritarianism of God!”

And so what we find is that Satan is actually a man of the intellect. Which is how it kind of segues into the Enlightenment, which of which was coming at that time.

Because then what you can do is replace that with God, with the King, or with religion in general. God is a religion, or even the state. You’ll see these things kind of repeating again, and again. And they become this oppressive force which you need to be liberated from.

And, in my opinion, this is the essence of the Left. This is where the Left is “birthed”, if you like, in this idea of all things being oppressive. Because today when we think of the Woke Left. And then some of it just seems downright ridiculous.

But there’s a clear line there which goes all the way back to when we were much more religious. And an example of that would be something like the French Revolution. So in the French Revolution, the reason we have a Right and the Left is because the revolutionaries of the Left wanted to destroy the old order, the traditional order, which was the peasant to the aristocracy to the King and then up towards God, and the great chain of being.

They wanted to annihilate all of that, because they thought that it was oppressive. And then in the National Assembly, after the French Revolution, the Left, the revolutionaries sat on the Left side of the chamber, and the Right representing, defending tradition, sat on the Right side, the conservative side. But it would be genuinely conservative.

And this is how we got the Left and the Right.

And when you look at some of the thinkers of the time, you look at some people like Rousseau, where:

“Man is born free, but everywhere he’s in chains!”

It kind of brings back again Satan’s speeches in Paradise Lost. Except this time it’s the King and the Church, which is the oppressive force.

And so once you’ve abolished the, let’s say, the heavenly order, the great chain of being, of God, to King, the traditional order, the question then comes, … Because then at least you had a set morality. The morality which everybody understood and everybody obeyed.

And so then the question becomes that if you are going to marginalize this, if you are going to brush all of, … I mean. In the case of the French Revolution, which is completely annihilated! And you’ll see again the religious were persecuted. The Royal Family was executed.

But then the problem that arises from that, is how then do you arrive at laws? Like, where do you see your morality come from? And, of course, this is an Enlightenment thing, where we will use our own reason. So man will decide that! Our laws and our, … And then you get “Rights”, you get “Constitutions”. And you get all of this talk of “Liberty” enshrining Rights, and all of this. But it’s all man-made, because now God has been brushed off to the side. The old order has been brushed off to the side.

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And so in place of having an objective morality, you’ve got man-made laws, and mad made constitutions, and politics. And so this is essentially what the French Revolution, to pick one example. The big one in my view.

This is actually what the revolutionaries ushered in. And to go back to Paradise Lost, you can see that in Satan’s speeches, it’s literally mirrored in this! Because Satan revolted and rebelled against God. And when he’s down in heaven having a like a conference with his lieutenants, the question then arises about what to do next, and how to frame things. And Satan is typically of the Enlightenment. He’s a man of intellect! And he says that he rationalizes all of this in a way which he can say, the famous line being:

“It’s better to reign in hell, than serve in heaven.”

So basically he comes to the conclusion that it doesn’t really matter, because he can create a mirror version of heaven, in hell. And:

“What is good to God, evil will be to him!”

And it’s this kind of relativistic mindset that he’s got. Which is like, this will all work itself out and one isn’t really any better than the other. It doesn’t make any difference.

So this is his version of bringing in these laws, and you brushed aside the “absolute”. And you will just do it yourself using “pure intellect”, about how you look at the world. And so Satan in Paradise Lost is a “liberal”! [chuckling] It seems paradoxical, and it seems strange, but he is a liberal. What he’s rejecting is “authoritarianism”, and what he’s driving towards is the intellect of the individual, and being free to express that in any way that he can.

So when people say the Left have become something “satanic”, what I want to explore here is the idea that it always was! Because people will say:

“Well, they were just a bunch of socialists, but in more recent years it became corrupted, and it became something toxic, and insane, and satanic!”

In actual fact, if you traced back the Leftist thinking, Leftist thought, all the way back to its origins in somewhere like the French Revolution, I think it’s been satanic from day one. Because it kind of corresponds perfectly with the story of Paradise Lost.

It’s this idea that there can be no authority over you, and you must then enshrine all of these laws which, basically, you’ve just made up yourself! They’re just purely man made.

I mean, even in the case of something like socialism, the end goal of socialism is supposed to be the liberation of the masses from capitalism. They’re actually on some firmer ground there, because it brings in the question of whether, or not, capitalism is itself a legitimately Right-wing force. But that’s another subject.

The end goal in the socialist utopia, which you see them talking about now, “luxury space communism”, it is that the individual has been liberated from work. They’ve been liberated from all of these institutions, and structures of capitalism. And so they are then finally set loose into the world to express themselves as they see fit.

Again there’s another paradox here, because they also think that everybody is just formed by their environment. So if you’re then gonna change the environment, you’ll change the person. But if you’re going to liberate them, completely liberate humanity, to do what they want, and they no longer have any higher power over them, or any kind of structures sort of moulding them, then what is it that you’re actually going to set loose? Because there’s not really any essence there! It’s just a void, if it can just be moulded by society. But so I don’t see how that makes any sense very much either.

And you see in the Russian Revolution, once again, which is also from the Left. Again it’s this rebellion against the old order. It’s a rebellion against God. Again the religious institutions were annihilated.

And once again you have all of these horrible laws coming in, and which are purely man-made, and not rooted in any kind of like sort of metaphysics at all. And you’ll see that straight away. It’s a tyranny, because of what they have to deal with. Because they’re trying to figure all this out as it goes along and it ends up in a bloodbath and a tyranny, over, and over, again! Because all they have to rely on is the intellect, is the human. And they can kind of just make stuff up on the fly, and change the rules willy-nilly, because they’ve rejected an absolute morality.

[15:22]

I mean, an interesting thing, and I already know what many people in the comments are going to be thinking, is that when we look at the revolutions, the Russian Revolution in particular. Also the French Revolution, and even the American Revolution. Which again, is all about liberty from the old tradition. Liberty from, freedom from, the old order. And look how America has turned out. America is what people think of as being the greatest satanic force in the world today!

But nevertheless what you see in all of these things is this idea that it’s “top down”. In other words, it’s secretive groups, and cliques, with their own agenda, pulling the strings from behind the scenes. All you’ve got to do is look at them, like Freemason symbology on America’s currency. And all of this. The same thing about the French Revolution. Something slightly different about the Russian Revolution. But it’s there as well.

In Juri Lina’s amazing documentary, Under the Sign of the Scorpion, he does a bit of a deep dive into some of the more esoteric, and secretive, groups that had a hand in bringing down the Russian aristocracy and then formulating the Russian Revolution. It was more groups than one.

But in Paradise Lost it’s not like a head-on sort of attack against the law, like the traditional order, it’s always covert. And it’s always being done from behind the scenes.

And in Paradise Lost there’s actually a scene when Satan, and Belial, Moloch, and mammon, and the rest of his lieutenants. They when they get cast out, and they’re all bloodied, and they’ve been thrashed, and they’re in hell, deciding what to do next, Moloch comes up with the idea that they need to basically just go straight back into battle against the forces of good. And Satan comes up with the, or Belial, mouthing Satan, comes up with the idea that they should be more covert. And this is where Satan hatches the idea that he will sneak his way back into God’s realm, into Eden, as it would become, because he was basically busy creating man. And he would use covert means to corrupt from within. And so this again, it’s funny how this repeats itself again, and again, and again throughout the history of like Leftist destruction on earth.

But what’s so surprising about it, is the way today we’re so like saturated in liberalism, that we automatically think of it are as a “good”, or as a “softening force”, a force of freedom and liberation, away from tyranny. And yet, Satan in Paradise Lost he isn’t like a communist, or something like that. He is more like a liberal. He’s a liberal raging against the traditional order and God’s authority. And so what he’s doing is setting people “free”.

And the perfect example of this, of course, will be when he goes into the Garden of Eden, and he tempts Eve to eat the Apple, the forbidden fruit. And this is where we really get to it, of course, when we go back to that disgusting fella at the beginning of the video.

Because what is that? What is pedophilia? It’s a forbidden fruit! And that’s now where they are heading towards. And it begins, and the framing of it as well, they are using like the language of “freedom”, to do. So so you arrive, at this point, where there are no constraints left at all! Anymore! And they’ve done away, long ago, with any sense of right, or wrong. And what they have done is make up these man-made laws. And the man made laws that they can just be changed, because it’s just ink on a piece of paper.

And so when we go back to Paradise Lost, and we see the interaction with Eve, this is precisely what is happening here. It’s a temptation away from the divine authority and towards personal freedom. But once you go into the idea of personal freedom, then you’re kind of cut loose! You don’t really have any kind of direction anymore.

[20:00]

And this was compounded in the history of Leftism. When we come into the more modern era and you begin to see post-modernism enter the scene, because what we begin with all of these rights. And all of these laws. And all of these man-made constructs, to replace the old order.

And then post-modernism comes in. And post-modernism which is also from the Left, of course, and riddled with pedophiles, it then begins to deconstruct all of the laws which were brought in by what amounts to this previous incarnation of itself.

And you can see the famous thing in France with Foucault, and Sartre, and all of these others. And they were all hell-bent on abolishing the age of consent! Why? Because it was arbitrary.

And you can go back to that tweet at the start of it there. And what was also on that thread was this idea he was coming out with was it, … So it was in America, and the age of consent is 16 in this State, and it’s 17 years old in this State, and it’s 18 years old in another State. And then another time they will point out:

“Well, you know, Henry VIII had a 13 year old wife!”

And all of these kinds of things. And what they’re doing is saying:

“Well these laws and the way we thought about this, it hasn’t been consistent. It’s changed slightly over time.”

But especially when it was man-made laws, it changed a lot, because there was no longer any divine authority. It was just men making it up and trying to do the best that they could, to put some constraints and some blocks on society, when they could no longer call on a higher authority.

And so then what the postmodernists do is point out that the things that men made in the past, these laws, doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense. So we have to sort of deconstruct them. And we have to abolish them. And we have to point out that it’s just about power. It was just those with power, were making these laws. And it doesn’t really have anything to do with right, or wrong.

So now we’ve arrived at the point where we abolish that too! Eve cannot explain through a peer-reviewed scientific study of experts why she shouldn’t eat the apple. And so she does! And is therefore liberated.

And so what this does, Satan’s general arc over the course of the whole poem, is one of degeneration. So he begins with the grandstanding, charismatic, sort of defiant speeches against what he calls “the tyranny of heaven”. And then over the course of the story he kind of degenerates. And then it becomes more, and more, that he becomes the sort of the pure hellish creation of nightmares, and, you know, lava and blood, and all of this kind of thing. You can see that he’s going in that direction. He enters as a comet. And by the end of it, he’s just this lisping snake!

And Milton puts his words in a certain way, where the lisping is like very pronounced. There’s lots of s’s, there’s lots of syllables at the start of his words. So it sounds like he’s lisping more, and more, as he goes on. And this mirrors the sort of the way that like liberalism which starts with these grandstanding speeches and appeals towards personal freedom, and man-made laws, based on reason, degenerates and collapses in under itself. And this is again mirrored in Paradise Lost.

And I was reminded of an article that I did, a blog post that I did some years ago on Richard Dawkins. And Richard Dawkins was engaged in a similar issue that I raised at the beginning of the video. And Richard Dawkins was engaged in the debate on abortion. And he was kind of owning a kind of patriotic American.

And Dawkins had been in Africa to some sort of conference about saving the elephant and he pointed out that the an elephant, a baby elephant, or a young elephant, is more worthy of saving. Because the person had said:

“We’re aborting millions of babies across the Western world, and you’re trying to save the elephant.”

And so Dawkins response was that the elephant, it’s been born, it’s alive, and it has empathy, it has feelings, and it has emotions towards it’s family. And a human embryo doesn’t! And so therefore based on reason, it makes more sense to be worried about the elephant than an unborn human embryo.

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And the problem is what he’s describing there in the elephant, again, so often this stuff relies on sophistry. Because. If you take that what he’s saying about the baby elephant. The elephant is a noble creature. The elephant is, you know, it’s majestic. People like elephants.

But the problem is what he’d actually described were the basic traits of any mammal. And a rat is a mammal. And the rat studies have shown also has empathy. A rat also cares about it’s siblings. And a rat also knows fear. And it knows degrees of happiness, just like an elephant does.

And so now we can switch, we can remove the elephant from the equation. And we can say:

“Let’s bring the rat in instead.”

So now that argument is, all of a sudden, the rat is worth more than an unborn human child, or an embryo is, in this case! So now an unborn human actually doesn’t have as much empathy. And it doesn’t have as much feelings as a fully grown rat, amongst its siblings.

So according to Dawkins’s logic, the rat is more important. And so you see that very quickly what is supposed to be this rational mindset, it very quickly takes you towards hell, if it isn’t kind of shackled to ideas of objective goodness in the world. You can see how quickly it degenerates, just like Satan.

Because eventually he’s rationalizing the most hideous acts that you can possibly imagine. You can see this playing out in Dostoevsky’s work, as well. Something like Crime and Punishment.

So in the story of Crime and Punishment you’ve got the young student in his dilapidated department building, disaffected with the world. And he looks at his landlord, which is a woman, an old woman, and she’s a horrible person, and she’s greedy, and she’s charging them too much rent. And she doesn’t really offer the world anything good at all.

And so Raskolnikov’s sort of runs the maths and comes up with the conclusion that the world would be better if she was dead! Like the world is not going to be any worse off, if he takes an axe and murders his landlady, because she’s just a terrible person! She’s greedy, she’s unpleasant, and she doesn’t give anything back. So if you remove her from the world, then will be a better place. It’s as simple as that. And that’s what he does. And then he has to suffer the consequences on his conscience, and everything like that.

But what really comes in there is a kind of utilitarianism, so that what constitutes “good” becomes a matter of running the numbers. And you can see the technocrats in the world doing that today. Which is why I kind of speak out about it so much, because I can’t stand it! Because you end up rationalizing your way into committing acts of complete barbarism! You end up asking for a scientific peer-reviewed study on why paedophilia is wrong! You end up saying:

“Well a creature such as a rat has empathy, and feelings, and an unborn human doesn’t, therefore the rat is more worthy of life!”

And at each stage it began with just rationalism. It began with:

“Well, we can use our reason as men, to formulate all of these laws. And all of these moral norms. And everything will be just fine! We’ll just do it all ourselves. And then we’ll write it in.”

And then slowly, but surely the laws change. Because the thinking changes. And it always deteriorates. And it begins with liberalism, and it brings you where you are now. So to the question of, have they been hijacked? Has this like thought been hijacked in recent years? And that we can get rid of the Woke stuff, and everything will be grand?

No! I’m afraid this is the path that which began a long time ago, reaching it’s final kind of hellish conclusion. And at every stage it seems to mirror the descent of the rebellion against authority, against God. And then you end up where you’re having to say:

“Okay, well we, like Satan, I’ll just make it up! I’ll just relativize all of this stuff. And I’ll just make up my own laws. And we will at least be free! We will be liberated And that’s what happens. We’re going to liberate everybody! Everybody should be able to do whatever they want. And what we will do, we’ll just put some laws in, here and there!”

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And it’s been [chuckling] just a bloodbath for hundreds of years, at the end of the day! And the question is, what is the response to this? What has become a political philosophy which, even if we grant, which a lot of people would dispute, even if we grant that it meant well, which, you know, … when you look at what happened in something like the French Revolution, doubt! But even then, like it’s obviously degraded into something now which is quite literally satanic.

So, what is the response to this? What is the response to this problem?

Let me know in the comments below.

And thanks for listening folks.

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Here Joyce discusses the US elections between Trump and Biden and how the outcome is just more of the same in either case as both are entwined within the jewish power structure, aka, the Deep State, aka ZOG.

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Hello everyone. And welcome back to Talmud and Taboo. I am your host Andrew Joyce. And I think it’s as good a time as any to return to podcasting given the drama, the recriminations and shenanigans that have accompanied the recent putative election of Joe Biden to the presidency of the United States.

I have very mixed feelings about the events of the last few days, very mixed feelings, indeed!

I think I should begin by saying that I was never “MAGA”, on the Trump Train. I always had my reservations and doubts about Donald Trump.

Way back in 2015, I wrote an article titled “Jewish Intermarriage with Native Elites”, in which I attempted to take the marriage of Ivanka Trump to Jared Kushner, to highlight as a warning and to contextualize it and provide some historical background for the way in which it seem to be an almost conscious strategy of Jews to marry the children of their elites with the children of native European elites.

And I dug into the history of this. In Prussia in the 1800s, especially the Junker families. And the way in which certain salons were established in which the young men from the Junger families would be encouraged to socialize, especially with these jewish daughters. And in which these marriages would be more or less set up, or a context laid, in which the pairing up of these individuals would be more or less inevitable.

And I made the argument that these marriages provided a kind of concrete biological entwining of interests. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out that when your daughter, when your family, or your grandchildren, are for all intents and purposes Jewish, that basically you are going to have an additional concern, or certain perspective, on things like zionism, or the State of Israel, or the history of the Jewish people, that will lend you certainly more amenable to jewish arguments, and I believe Jewish influence.

So, the Kushner influence was something that concerned me very, very, early on in the drive for a Trump Presidency. And I must say that my feelings are no different when it comes to Joe Biden, who has no less than three children who have married Jews. Everyone has been talking about the certain statistical unlikelihood of Joe Biden‘s recent election results. And I would simply say, well here is another statistical improbability. The improbability that all three of one’s children would end up marrying Jews! I think that’s something worth thinking about again.

And if you haven’t read my essay “Jewish Intermarriage with Native Elites”, then I think you certainly should do so in the next few days. I think it will help contextualize some of the things that surely will unfold over the next four years.

So there is an ambivalence there, a certain ambivalence, a certain trepidation about Trump. And I think over the four years of Trumpism that we have thus far witnessed that there were concerns more or less confirmed. Certainly I don’t feel any radical need to revise any of my initial concerns. I felt right at the outset that was what we would see would be more or less a continuation of the non-negotiables of what you might call “The Deep State” or ZOG, or whatever label you wish to place on the fact that this system, as we know it, would more or less continue.

So we have seen the ongoing expansion of GloboHomo, for example. We’ve seen the fixation on GDP, as the axis upon which global happiness is supposed to turn. We’ve seen the relentless and flamboyant “Village People” promotion by Donald Trump of homosexuality in remote African States.

And we’ve had this bizarre spectacle, this bizarre sight of evangelical Christians in the Red States cheering on a President who is actively pushing sodomy in African backwaters. So it takes on a kind of surreal perspective whenever you look at it in the cold light of day.

So there’s been a continuance of these things, and certainly there’s been a continuance of the American-Israel symbiotic relationship.

This habit of unquestionably donating to Israeli military ambitions, and providing Israel with all of the diplomatic and institutional support that it so desperately seeks from the United States. This has all continued unchallenged, unabated, and unscathed.

So when the first turn in the votes, shall I say, in favor of Joe Biden occurred, a quote came to mind from the book “Anarchy and Christianity” by the French philosopher Jacques Ellul.

Ellul will be familiar to some of you, because he wrote a book called “The Technological Society”, which I think he floats his disgust, on at least one occasion, and which is certainly complementary, or certainly supplementary, to Ted Kaczynski’s* writings. It’s basically decrying the influence of technique, and technology on society. And I believe that Jacques Ellul is a philosopher worth paying some attention to.

[*Theodore John Kaczynski, also known as the Unabomber, is an American domestic terrorist, anarchist, and former mathematics professor. He was a mathematics prodigy, but he abandoned his academic career in 1969 to pursue a more primitive lifestyle. Source: Wikipedia]

Now in “Anarchy and Christianity” Ellul basically makes the argument for Christian anarchism. He claims that anarchism is something that can never be genuinely politically fulfilled. But he makes a case that Christianity itself is an anarchist doctrine. Now I don’t agree with the central premise of the book. And overall, actually, it’s not that interesting of a book. But there are some interesting quotes and arguments made within it. And one of those quotes which stuck in my mind and which was resurgent in that initial turn of the votes towards the election of Joe Biden, was the following, quote:

“All our political forms are exhausted and practically nonexistent. Our parliamentary and electoral system, and political parties, are just as futile as dictatorships are intolerable. Nothing is left! And this this nothing is increasingly aggressive, totalitarian, and omnipresent. This nothing!”

When I sat back and I started thinking about the transition which is surely to play out between Trump and Biden, I listened to all of the media uproar and the discussion of how America is so partisan now, and all of the differences between Biden and Trump, and how this was going to change, and that was going to change.

And certainly on some level there are going to be some superficial, and I suppose not so superficial changes taking place. There are certainly going to be a radical change in the mood of American government.

There’s no question that even though we can doubt the sincerity of Donald Trump‘s political beliefs. And certainly have our suspicions about some of the influences coming to bear on him, that Trump was a force of an amorphous, reactionary, conservatism, which picked it’s battles and was kind of symbolically Republican, conservative.

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There’s no real coherence to Trumpism. So when I read recent news articles talking about how Trumpism may, or may not, or could, or should survive the downfall of Trump, whether it might be a resurgence, for example, in the young politician Cotton, the young senator, I have my misgivings about that. I’m not sure that we would want Trumpism to survive.

I’m not sure that it can survive without Trump because it’s so dependent on his own personality. I think that once you subtract Trump from Trumpism, what are you left with?

You are left with a kind of vague neoconservative, bland GDP worshiping, kind of a glorification of capitalism. That’s me thinking off the top of my head.

But what is Trumpism? Where does it go, beyond memes and owning the Libs with statements that don’t leave anywhere? What is Trumpism other than consecutively, and unceasingly, giving serious consideration to doing something. I’m not sure that we can encapsulate Trumpism in such a way that it can survive the downfall of Trump.

So anyway, with all of these debates and discussions about what might happen next and how things might change and all of this, I was focused on what will stay the same. I was focused on “the nothing” that Ellul was alluding to, and discussing there.

This “nothing”, this kind of inert, but slowly moving progress towards decline! This gradual slip into an abyss! An abyss dominated by the non-negotiables of the system global Globohomo, zionism, and the worship of GDP, and the subservience of the common man to the system, and his depressing inability to overcome it, or overturn it, in anyway.

I think it’s foolish of liberals, and leftists, of a sincere ideological bent, to celebrate the victory of Joe Biden. Joe Biden ultimately is as meaningless, and as incoherent, and as amorphous, as Trumpism was.

Biden will be nothing more, and has been elected as nothing more, than a symbol. He’s a symbol of being not Trump. Just as Trump was elected as a symbol of not establishment.

Both of these symbols are surface level. Both of these symbols are ultimately meaningless, and result in the ongoing frustration of an electorate that cannot seem to achieve anything, no matter how many times it votes. No matter how many times it goes to the polling booth. No matter how many shit posts they put on social media. No matter how much outrage they can manage to stoke over very superficial things. And I suppose some not so superficial things. That we just end up repeating the same pattern over, and over, and over again.

So I’m not mourning the downfall of Trump and Trumpism. And I’m not terrified of the rise of Joe Biden. I think that the challenge for people like us, is more or less the same. It is to challenge the non-negotiables of the system. It is to challenge Globohomo. To challenge the ceaseless worship of GDP the axis upon which our happiness is supposed to turn, but really under which our happiness is ruthlessly crushed and oppressed.

And above all we must, of course, work hard to bring down this emphasis on support for Israel as a kind of prerequisite to any meaningful and just participation in our political systems.

So the point I’m trying to make, I suppose, is that your task hasn’t changed, nothing has changed! There may be some differences, if anything though, in the tactical realm.

I see with the downfall of Trump, the end of the kind of meme wars, humor-based activism that marked the period, perhaps, 2015. But really it was dying by 2018. The meme wars, this idea of owning the Libs. You’re not owning the Libs! And to be fair the Libs aren’t really owning us. We are all just participating in this endless wheel, this endless cycle, which spirals ever downwards.

And we push them, they push us, in all of these superficial ways, and nothing gets achieved, nothing is accomplished, and we just simply decline.

I think that broader perspectives on the nature of the system are what are required today. And I view it as a positive that a lot of the activism in the movement in terms of producing content at the minute is system based. It’s looking at some of the philosophical, first principles, of the issues that we are facing. And it’s giving serious discussion and serious critique to things like GDP worship. And as always, criticism of Jewish influence at the highest levels.

If I want you to take away any message from this podcast, it’s that we need to challenge “the nothing”. We need to challenge “the nothing” which is increasingly aggressive, totalitarian, and omnipresent. And the best way of doing that is by creating something. We will have to create institutions that will perhaps at first be powerless. But they will be there. And they will be something that is not “the nothing”.

And I think that now is the time for us to refine ourselves ideologically, and to present a vision to well-meaning, well-intentioned people that is quite a part from Trumpism and Bidenism, which ultimately on the grand scale, are both indistinguishable from the other.

Thank you for listening. Goodbye.

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Andrew Joyce – T&T 5 – The Return of the Bucket – Aug 5, 2020 — Transcript

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[This is the 5th video in the T&T series from The Occidental Observer contributor and scholar Andrew Joyce on the “jewish problem/question“, available at his newly created BitChute channel.

Here Joyce revisits a previous topic and ponders the usefulness of engaging in philosophical musings, while discussing again his differences with Tyler, aka, Thamster.

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T & T No 5:

The Return of the

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Talmud and Taboo. This episode is going to be quite brief. It is a reply to a reply.

Tyler, aka, Thamster has replied to Episode 3 of Talmud and Taboo, “Kicking over the Bucket”. The episode that I recorded was quite brief, it was 10 minutes long. It’s difficult to say, because of the simplicity of its message, how it could be misconstrued, but I think it has been misconstrued.

The only criticism that I made against Thamster in that Episode was that he had presented Adorno briefly, as a throw away comment, as a reactionary in music. I produced a few pieces of information which clearly demonstrated that that wasn’t the case. I think that that information is valid and I think that the argument that I made is inarguable. It still stands.

In the broader terms of the Episode the point being made is that you can engage in abstraction, but all you are going to be doing is playing with abstraction, it’s not going to advance much in the political world, or in the real world of action, of improving demographics, of improving culture at large.

Philosophy is a fascinating subject. I have a lot of respect for it. I have a lot of respect for Thamster’s productions in the realm of philosophy. But I do think it has its limits. I think it has its limits with common man. That doesn’t mean that it is utterly pointless, it just means it’s not going to rescue us from this situation.

And in fact in one of Thamaster’s comments, beneath one of my videos, he said that his goal was to advance philosophy. I think that is a noble goal. But that goal ends with that goal. You can advance philosophy all you want, but that is not going to create some kind of revolution in society. That is not how it works.

And ironically enough I think if you look at philosophers, like Nietzsche, this point was made very very explicitly by them. Nietzsche, for example chided the kicking over the bucket philosophy of Zen when he said that man of action of the future will be someone who engages in a woeful forgetfulness. Nietzsche envisaged a man who could empty his mind first in order to act!

And I think while ideas are fascinating and certainly Thamster seems to have taken a very brief 10 minute video with a very simple message in it, it seems like, I hope I’m not being unfair to him here, but it seems that rather than simply see the bucket, he has looked at it in terms of what he can break down and what he can, how he can basically scoop out the intellectual potential of what was a very, very basic podcast.

And perhaps something that you outgrow with age. I went through a phase like that when I was younger, but it has its limits. And I hope that all of you listening to this will understand that an element of action requires an element of forgetfulness, of disentangling yourself from second thoughts, from doubts, you may have.

And when we engage with certain topics, and cultural marxism is one of those topics, they do present a kind of intellectual thicket. And as I said in the first episode it’s not really a matter of intelligence.

When I am asking someone, or when I’m suggesting that in order to act there requires an emptying of the mind to some extent, that is not an anti-intellectual attitude. In fact, you can think intellectually in a “no-think” way, if that makes sense. You can have a structure to your plan of action without over indulging in abstraction.

I hope what I’m saying there is clear. I certainly don’t find the subject of cultural marxism, it’s finer points of theory, to be so interesting that I want to devote a large number of podcast episodes to it, or to speak for one, or two hours, on the subject. It simply doesn’t interest me enough. And also I don’t want to engage in an endless series of exchanges on the subject with someone on my own side. I don’t see the point in needless factionalism over this.

To come back the reason for Episode 3, I had noticed fractions and divisions within the movement with one section of the movement looking at the, I suppose, philosophical Third Positionists, and disdaining them for snobbishness, or a certain level of intellectual conceit.

And on the other side, the intellectual Third Positionists were looking at others as grugg tier wignats who have nothing really valuable to contribute and who should shut up and listen to their intellectual betters!

Both of those sides have a point! But both of them need to just shut up and work together. And when I suggest “kicking over the bucket”, it’s not a condemnation of either side. It’s a call to reconciliation and seeing things for how they are.

And yes, there is room for philosophers in a movement. But the movement should not be a movement of philosophers. And there is room for activists and foot soldiers, and people who are men of action in the movement. But at the same time we should not have a movement consisting solely of such men. We are all part of the same body and until can work together and come together in a positive sense, with a positive vision, we really aren’t going to make any kind of progress, whatsoever.

Which brings me on to a question. And that question has bothered me for, I don’t know, five, six years. Probably ever since the birth of what became known as the “Alt-Right”. The Alt-Right initiated a new departure in our politics because it developed a side to our politics that was based on entertainment.

So we saw a flourishing of podcasts, of memes, of audio-visual products. And the reason for all of this is of course was to create a culture, a White nationalist, Third Positionist, or Alt-Right culture. And that needed cultural expression. So we had music, and as I say, we had even art works and things were being produced. All this is fantastic!

But I have always had the reservation where I wondered if it was not the case that we were degrading somewhat into an entertainment business, or a sphere of the “Entertainment Complex” albeit a niche element within that broader complex. And I’ve always had reservations especially some of the more intellectual content.

And this is an indictment of myself here! I’ve written over 300 essays. Some of them are very, very intellectual, and very, very academic and have all of the apparatus of academic essays, with heavy footnotes and references to multiple texts and what have you.

So I’m not presenting myself, please do not make the mistake of thinking I’m presenting myself as either above all this or outside of it, but looking on and criticizing everyone. That is not the case. If anything it’s an attempt at self critique. I’m trying to examine what I’m doing and asking myself:

“Am I’m doing something wrong here?”

But I’ve been worried that some of this is nothing more than distraction, that we are confusing entertainment with action. That in producing a podcast that is listened to by a few thousand people, that that in itself is a form of achievement, or productive action. And I’ve always been apprehensive in terms of answering that question. I’m still not convinced either way. And perhaps you could let me know in the comments, how you feel, or if you have had similar feeling.

But, for Tyler to have highlighted the fact at the end of my episode “Kicking over the Bucket” that pointed to Heidegger and Schmidt, … Again I think he is making connections that weren’t there, and he is mis-interpreting the very simple message of the podcast. When I’m saying that there are limits to a conference on Heidegger, or a podcast on Schmidt, I think that point is simply inarguable!

There is a limit to the usefulness of such activity. There is a point at which that could be argued to be nothing more than an intellectual entertainment. It doesn’t mean it has no value, but it does mean the in the broader path of progress, those kinds of activities don’t kick over the bucket! They just don’t advance things. They take off to another intellectual cul-de-sac where we can feel comfortable, and feel entertained and feel like we are doing something, but in fact we aren’t, we are just again hitting the brick wall. We are trying to develop, or embellish, or reinterpret what are essentially abstract theories. And actually all of these theories when you break them down are actually quite simple in the end. And anyway they are just loaded with jargon a lot of them.

And I include Heidegger in that. I think Heidegger relies a lot on jargon to embellish what were often very, very simple points, whether it is about technology, or whether it’s about the nature of being. And I suppose their is an argument to be made that philosophy as a whole is about inventing and then breaking down and re-examining jargon. There’s an argument to be made there, that that is the case.

But, that is the point that was being made! It’s no more complex than that. It’s no more controversial than that. And I don’t think that the very simple points that I made which really only two points. One of which was Adorno was not a reactionary in music. The other point is that we shouldn’t confuse entertaining and lively discussions about philosophy for political progress, and nor should we ever do that.

Those points are inarguable! They speak for themselves. So as much as I appreciate Tyler’s reply, that is all I have to say on it. I won’t be engaging in any further discussion. And I think that my points still stand, like concrete! Undisturbed and monolithic and unchanged. And that is just how I see it. But I wish Tyler all the best.

And certainly I encourage everyone to consume his content and I think he is a very intelligent guy with lots of worthwhile [things] to say. And I respect him and will continue to listen to him. I just think that in the broader scheme of things with the debates that have been ongoing, and some of the divisions that are there, that my approach is best. And I’ll stick by that.

Anyway, thanks for listening! I hope that clarifies a few things. And the next episode I think we will return to some history and politics, because I think that is where everyone who is following me really wants to go with this thing.

Anyway, that is all I have to say on the matter!

Thanks for listening, and good bye.

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