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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Christopher Bollyn</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Tricked into War: Israeli Zionist Government was</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> Behind the 9/11 Attack</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Thu, Sep 20, 2018</span></h1>
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[In this 2018 presentation Christopher Bollyn, an American investigative journalist and author of several books on 9/11 sets out in detail, naming names, on why and how Israel carried out the, years in preparation, false flag attack 9/11, i.e., to unleash The War OF Terror on the Middle East using American blood and treasure.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Some points Bollyn makes, include:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Is an author of books on 9/11 and the War on Terror.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">9/11 and the War on Terror are connected and part of an Israeli plan.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;9/11 was a policy coup&#8221; blamed on Muslims to start the War on Terror.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The War on Terror aims to redraw the Middle East map according to Israeli interests.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Menachem Begin, founder of Likud party, is described as &#8220;the father of terrorism&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">9/11 was designed to &#8220;instill fear and rage in the American population&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The War on Terror is &#8220;the longest and most expensive war, foreign war in US history&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Trump is quoted: &#8220;We have spent $7 trillion in the Middle East. You know what we have for it? Nothing!&#8221;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The War on Terror is &#8220;based on the official myth of 9/11&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Wesley Clark is quoted describing a &#8220;policy coup&#8221; by &#8220;hard-nosed people&#8221; after 9/11.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The plan is to &#8220;take out seven countries in five years&#8221; starting with Iraq.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">This follows the &#8220;Yinon Plan&#8221; to break up Arab states into smaller entities.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Hillary Clinton is mentioned as seeking to overthrow Syria&#8217;s government &#8220;to save Israel&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Asks &#8220;Is the United States waging Israel&#8217;s wars?&#8221;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Israel wants to expand from &#8220;the Nile river to the Euphrates&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Christian Zionism is &#8220;a big problem&#8221; in supporting Israel.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">John F. Kennedy was &#8220;the last great reformer&#8221; who challenged these interests.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Israeli control of airport security.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;9/11 was also a computer crime&#8221; involving Israeli software companies.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">He suggests &#8220;revolutions are not made&#8221; with 99% support, but with a critical mass.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Encourages informing local police, community leaders, and churches about 9/11.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Now lives in Sweden after being prosecuted in the US.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">His latest book is &#8220;The War on Terror: The Plot to Rule the Middle East&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><a style="color: #ff0000;" href="https://rumble.com/v3kehtc-tricked-into-war-israeli-zionist-government-was-behind-the-911-attack-septe.html">https://rumble.com/v3kehtc-tricked-into-war-israeli-zionist-government-was-behind-the-911-attack-septe.html</a></span></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><a style="color: #ff0000;" href="http://www.bollyn.com/">http://www.bollyn.com/</a></span></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;">Update, Sep 12, 2025: See also this Substack post with lots of links:</h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;" data-wpview-marker="https%3A%2F%2Fbinkylarue.substack.com%2Fp%2Fisrael-and-elements-of-the-us-government"><a href="https://binkylarue.substack.com/p/israel-and-elements-of-the-us-government"><span style="color: #0000ff;">https://binkylarue.substack.com/p/israel-and-elements-of-the-us-government</span></a></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Published on Thu, Sep 20, 2018</strong></p>
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Christopher Bollyn &#8211; Tricked Into War: Israeli Zionist Government Was Behind The 9/11 Attack (2018)<br />
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An independent analysis of the events of September 11, 2001.<br />
Includes historical and geo-political background and examines the motivation of the people who played key roles in the destruction of the evidence and the obstruction of justice for the families of the victims.<br />
Investigative journalist and best selling author Christopher Bollyn makes the case for why he believes the Israeli Zionist government was behind the 9/11 attack.<br />
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<p><strong>Christopher Bollyn:</strong> Hello. Good afternoon. My name is Christopher Bollyn. Thank you for coming.</p>
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<p>And I want to thank the people that organized this conference today. Today we’re going to do a 58 minutes presentation to keep it within constraints for a video. And I’m talking about “<em>Tricked into War</em>”.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m not going to go into great detail about the 9/11 crime. The details of the 9/11 crime would take up hours and hours of discussion. I’ve talked about 9/11 and the evidence in other videos, and they’re on YouTube. And I’ve written several books about 9/11.</p>
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<p>Today I’m talking about how 9/11 and the War on Terror are connected and linked. This nation has been at war for 17 years. As Donald Trump said the other day, we spent $7 trillion and got nothing for it.</p>
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<p>The United States and Syria are at face to face confrontation in Syria as we speak. Russian planes are being shot down with Israeli involvement, off the coast of Syria. And the media in this country barely touches it. All the media in this country talks about is sexual peccadilloes between Kavanaugh and some girl in high school. They say nothing about the situation in Syria, which is very important.</p>
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<p>So, I’m the author of Solving 9/11. And as I’ve said in previous presentations, Solving 9/11 ends the war! I was an investigative journalist in Washington, DC when 9/11 started. Here I am presenting evidence of the first citizens Grand Jury in Los Angeles.</p>
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<p>And I’m the author of the Solving 9/11 set of books. And the latest book is the War on Terror, which is a very small book about the War on Terror.</p>
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<p>The Solving 9/11 set of books investigate various aspects of the false flag of terror atrocity. But my main focus is who is behind 9/11 and why was it done? This is the book of original articles. This is the latest book. I wrote this last summer, The War on Terror, the Plot to Rule the Middle East.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5574.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36549" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5574.jpg" alt="" width="978" height="533" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5574.jpg 978w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5574-600x327.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5574-768x419.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 978px) 100vw, 978px" /></a></p>
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<p>911 was a policy coup. It was blamed on Muslims. 9/11 was blamed on Muslims in order to initiate, to start the War on Terror as an operational war. But behind the War on Terror is a covert strategic plan to redraw the map of the Middle East. You might ask yourself, why is the United States in Syria? We have no national interest in Syria. We haven’t had it for a long, long, long time.</p>
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<p>Yet we have troops there. We’re occupying the third eastern part of the country from the Euphrates river to Iraq. And we have also occupied the southern part of the country where Syria butts up against both Jordan and Iraq. Why are we there? What’s the purpose?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5575.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36550" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5575.jpg" alt="" width="969" height="525" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5575.jpg 969w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5575-600x325.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5575-768x416.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 969px) 100vw, 969px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, 9/11 and the War on Terror were both conceived by Israeli Military Intelligence in the 1970s when Menachem Begin, the head of the Likud Party, came to power. Menachem Begin is known as the “<em>father of terrorism</em>”. Here he is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5576.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36551" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5576.jpg" alt="" width="984" height="534" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5576.jpg 984w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5576-600x326.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5576-768x417.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 984px) 100vw, 984px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He’s the founder of the Likud Party. He was born in Russia, came to Palestine in 42, became leader of the Irgun in 44, which was a terrorist group. Bombed the King David Hotel, killing 93 people. British headquarters in 1946. Then was involved in the massacre of the Dir Yasin village, which was meant to scare the Palestinians to fleeing, which many did. And he created the Likud Party in 1973, became prime minister in 77, and promptly invaded Lebanon in 1978.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5577.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36552" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5577.jpg" alt="" width="974" height="553" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5577.jpg 974w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5577-600x341.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5577-768x436.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 974px) 100vw, 974px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the emblem of the Irgun which he was the head of its a jewish terrorist group and it’s connected to the Netanyahu family, because Mr Netanyahu’s father was the director of this movement, the Irgun, and the New Zionist organization since 1940.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5578.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36553" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5578.jpg" alt="" width="973" height="528" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5578.jpg 973w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5578-600x326.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5578-768x417.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 973px) 100vw, 973px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here is both Mr Begin and Netanyahu. These men are cut from the same cloth. This is the group that they belong to the great group that they have allegiance to is a group of terrorists.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1974, a British journalist asked Mr Begin, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How does it feel in the light of all that’s going on to be seen as the father of terrorism in the Middle East?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Begin said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“In the Middle East?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“In all the world!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So he put on himself the mantle of being the father of terrorism in all the world. That’s his words.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, 9/11 was a false flag terror atrocity that was designed to instill fear and rage in the American population, so that we would accept and we would get behind this War on Terror.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5579.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36554" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5579.jpg" alt="" width="979" height="520" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5579.jpg 979w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5579-600x319.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5579-768x408.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 979px) 100vw, 979px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I have to say it succeeded very well. 17 years later, we are still involved in the War on Terror. There is virtually no public resistance to it, and there is no political resistance to it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But starting the War on Terror, the open ended War on Terror, was the primary reason for the false flag terror attacks of 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5580.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36555" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5580.jpg" alt="" width="983" height="544" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5580.jpg 983w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5580-600x332.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5580-768x425.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 983px) 100vw, 983px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>911 was a policy coup that brought us a Global War On Terror and a series of disastrous wars across the region. They call it “<em>The Long War</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5581.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36556" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5581.jpg" alt="" width="990" height="558" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5581.jpg 990w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5581-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5581-768x433.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 990px) 100vw, 990px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The War on Terror is a suitable title because the War on Terror is the longest and most expensive war, foreign war in us history, yet there is no resistance to it. How can that be? How can the American people be so numb to American war fighting in a dozen countries across the Middle East?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, the main reason is because it’s out of sight, out of mind. Unless you have family involved in the war, you don’t hear about it on TV. You don’t hear about it on the radio. You don’t read about it in the newspapers. Not like Vietnam. Vietnam, we heard about, we saw pictures on Life magazine. Today we see nothing. Nothing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[05:51]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is what Donald Trump said in April <span style="color: #008000;">[April 28, 2018]</span>. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5582.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36557" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5582.jpg" alt="" width="987" height="549" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5582.jpg 987w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5582-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5582-768x427.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 987px) 100vw, 987px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3></h3>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We have spent $7 trillion. Trillion with a that, $7 trillion in the Middle East. You know what we have for it? Nothing! Nothing!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he’s absolutely right! As the author of the Art of the Deal, you would think that he would see that this is a very bad deal and rectify it as soon as possible.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The War on Terror is all based., &#8230; It’s not just a name, it’s an authorization, it’s a title. It’s an authorization and funding. And it was passed two days after 9/11, three days after 9/11, by the Authorization for Use of Military Force, which basically gave the president the authority to wage war against anybody he thought was behind 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5583.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36558" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5583.jpg" alt="" width="985" height="549" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5583.jpg 985w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5583-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5583-768x428.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 985px) 100vw, 985px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So these are some of the places where we, where the authorization used military force has been invoked.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5584.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36559" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5584.jpg" alt="" width="990" height="553" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5584.jpg 990w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5584-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5584-768x429.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 990px) 100vw, 990px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Was Eritrea? Was Somalia? Were they involved in 9/11? Was Libya involved in 9/11? We, of course, heard about Afghanistan. But are all these countries involved in 9/11? No, of course they’re not! But the authorization to use military force based on 9/11 crime has been abused, terribly abused! It opened up the pandora’s box for American open ended war fighting across the Middle East, around the world actually.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5585.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36560" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5585.jpg" alt="" width="992" height="517" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5585.jpg 992w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5585-600x313.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5585-768x400.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 992px) 100vw, 992px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The fraudulent War on Terror is based on the official myth of 9/11. They go hand in hand. The War on Terror is a criminal fraud.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5586.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36561" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5586.jpg" alt="" width="988" height="550" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5586.jpg 988w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5586-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5586-768x428.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 988px) 100vw, 988px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We are spending about $400 million per person, per US victim of terrorism per year. So for a cause of death, if you have cancer or influenza, you get pennies! This stack of bills would have to be 1,000 times higher to reflect the amount of money that’s being spent per victim of terrorism. Terrorism is not a leading cause of death in this country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5587.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36562" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5587.jpg" alt="" width="996" height="548" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5587.jpg 996w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5587-600x330.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5587-768x423.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 996px) 100vw, 996px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The War on Terror is an Israeli stratagem pushed by Netanyahu since 1979 to trick the United States into waging war against Israel’s enemies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5588.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36563" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5588.jpg" alt="" width="984" height="552" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5588.jpg 984w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5588-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5588-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 984px) 100vw, 984px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The War on Terror is based on the 9/11 lie. And unfortunately, Donald Trump has adopted that lie. He said in August of 2017:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“9/11, the worst terrorist attack in our history, was planned and directed from Afghanistan because that country was ruled by a government that gave comfort and shelter to terrorists.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he said that as he increased military presence and effort in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5589.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36564" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5589.jpg" alt="" width="986" height="553" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5589.jpg 986w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5589-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5589-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 986px) 100vw, 986px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Wesley Clark, who was running for president, this was the man who ran US military forces in Europe during the Yugoslavia campaign. And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Whether you’re a Democrat, or a Republican, if you’re an American, you ought to be concerned about the strategy of the United States in this region. What is our aim? What is our purpose? Why are we there? Why are Americans dying in this region? That is the issue.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What happened on 9/11 is that we didn’t have a strategy, we didn’t have bipartisan agreement, we didn’t have American understanding of it, and we had instead a policy coup in this country. A coup! A policy coup! Some hard nosed people took over the direction of American policy, and they never bothered to inform the rest of us.”</span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5590.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36565" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5590.jpg" alt="" width="989" height="553" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5590.jpg 989w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5590-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5590-768x429.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 989px) 100vw, 989px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He should know. Who’s he talking about? He’s talking about the Zionist neocons. These three people here, Paul Wolfowitz, Dov Zakheim, Douglas Feith. They’re three of the Defense Policy Board members who crafted the policy for the Pentagon that was put into effect after 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5591.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36566" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5591.jpg" alt="" width="986" height="552" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5591.jpg 986w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5591-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5591-768x430.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 986px) 100vw, 986px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here they are a few months after 9/11, meeting with the Israeli Chief of Staff right here, Shaul Mufaz. He’s the highest military person in Israel. And they’re discussing, what will America be doing? Well, Wesley Clark heard about the memo. He got the memo ten days after 9/11. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5592.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36567" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5592.jpg" alt="" width="984" height="548" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5592.jpg 984w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5592-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5592-768x428.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 984px) 100vw, 984px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I went through the Pentagon and I saw Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. One of the generals called me in and said, ‘Sir, we’ve made the decision, we’re going to war with Iraq’.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I don’t know.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I came back a few weeks later and by that time we were bombing Afghanistan. I said, ‘are we still going to war with Iraq?’.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, sir, it’s much worse than that. We’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off with Iran.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as you can see from this shopping list of this agenda, all of those countries have been done with the exception of Iran.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, what’s going on here is that an Israeli plan known as the Yinon Plan, which was articulated in 1982, is being put into effect. So that countries are being balkanized. That is, they’re being broken up into ethnic statelets.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5594.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36568" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5594.jpg" alt="" width="992" height="546" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5594.jpg 992w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5594-600x330.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5594-768x423.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 992px) 100vw, 992px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re causing friction between the various ethnic groups, breaking them up into ethnic statelets. That’s the name of the game in Syria. That’s what they did in Iraq. That’s what’s happened in Libya. Etcetera. This is the Israeli plan to dominate the Middle East by breaking up the large Arab states and breaking up their armies and breaking the countries into pieces like Yugoslavia. There will be no competition for Israel, and Israel will have hegemony over the entire region.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5595.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36569" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5595.jpg" alt="" width="986" height="511" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5595.jpg 986w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5595-600x311.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5595-768x398.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 986px) 100vw, 986px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here’s Hillary Clinton. Some people point out that her emblem here is very reminiscent of 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in 2012, Secretary of State Clinton wrote that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The best way to help Israel vis a vis Iran’s nuclear ambitions is to use force in Syria to overthrow the government.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This email proves that the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton sought to overthrow the government of Syria, elected government of Syria, to save Israel, to serve Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you understand that, you will understand why we are doing what we’re doing in Iran today or in Syria today.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I just read an article yesterday that says that the United States presence will continue in Syria beyond the end of the year because the mission has changed. The mission now is to prevent, is to kick Iran out of Syria. So American forces are now in Syria to battle with Iran and push Iran back. Did we choose that? Has Congress chosen that? Has anybody spoken about that? Of course not.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[11:43]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This photograph is from the Yarmouk, a Palestinian refugee camp in Damascus.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5596.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36570" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5596.jpg" alt="" width="991" height="556" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5596.jpg 991w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5596-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5596-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 991px) 100vw, 991px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is one of the ways that terrorism is used to destroy the lives of common people. The Palestinians are refugees since 19 47, 48 in Damascus. And what happened is that ISIS was infiltrated into this camp, ISIS, the terror group. And that brought about fire into the camp. Syrian, Russian, American, whoever was fighting against ISIS in this place, and it destroyed the camp. This camp used to house 120,000 people. Today it houses 200.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So these Palestinians were made a target, just like the people of Raqqa, Mosul, or any other place. ISIS is the target, and they put that target wherever they want and then destroy everything around the target.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5597.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36571" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5597.jpg" alt="" width="979" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5597.jpg 979w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5597-600x332.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5597-768x424.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 979px) 100vw, 979px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the question is, this is from Linda Heard, a British expert in the Middle East. She says, is the United States waging Israel’s wars? She said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There is one thing that we do know. Oded Yinon’s 1982 Zionist plan for the Middle East is in large part taking shape. Is this coincidence? Was Yinon a psychic? Maybe.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>She says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Alternatively, we in the West are victims of a long held agenda, not of our making, and without a doubt, not in our interests.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’re waging war for another entity, for another nation, for another interest that’s not ours, and we’re paying for it. Our sons and daughters are fighting it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5598.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36572" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5598.jpg" alt="" width="990" height="559" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5598.jpg 990w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5598-600x339.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5598-768x434.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 990px) 100vw, 990px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is the partition of Palestine. When it happened in 1947, Menachem Begin rejected it. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Jerusalem was and will forever be our capital. And Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel, all of it and forever!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is to give you an idea what Eretz Israel means. It means the land of Israel. And according to people like Menachem Begin, it extends from the Nile river to the Euphrates.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5626.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36602" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5626.jpg" alt="" width="911" height="515" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5626.jpg 911w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5626-600x339.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5626-768x434.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 911px) 100vw, 911px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this area right here is the Kurdish area, which happens to be occupied by the United States. This is all Syria right here. This is where the United States is occupying one third of Syria.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5599.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36575" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5599.jpg" alt="" width="994" height="560" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5599.jpg 994w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5599-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5599-768x433.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 994px) 100vw, 994px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>These are the various ethnic communities, religions, factions in Iraq and Syria. And from the Yinon plan, Yinon said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The dissolution of Syria in Iraq is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern Front. The dissolution of the military power of these states serves as the primary short term target.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is exactly what we did when we went to Iraq first 1991, and then again in 2003, we destroyed the Iraqi military.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you remember, one of the first things that happened is when we got into Iraq, we disbanded the entire military, sent everybody home. No more jobs, no entitlements, nothing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the military went away. And in Syria, we’ve been trying to do the same thing for the last seven years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36576" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600.jpg 1181w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, this is another break here. This area, this area here, periwinkle, is the area of the Kurds. And this area is where most of the oil is. And the United States and Israel are supporting the Kurdish independence. This area here in northern Iraq and this part of northern Syria. And in pursuing that, the largest holder of the reserves in this Kurdistan area of Iraq is a company called Janelle Energy, which is a Rothschild company.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they’re going after the strategic assets. And these two cities, Mosul and Raqqa, were targets of the American anti-terrorist attacks last summer, which destroyed those cities. Destroyed them!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36577" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601-1024x555.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="347" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601-1024x555.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601-600x325.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601-768x416.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601.jpg 1178w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here’s Mosul in June of 2017. The great mosque of all Nuri, destroyed in the battle of Mosul. The Americans put our artillery around the cities and just pounded them for months. And that has a price. Here’s Syria, the other city in Raqqa, in Syria, October 2017, at least half the city is totally destroyed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36578" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602-1024x542.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="339" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602-1024x542.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602-600x318.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602-768x407.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602.jpg 1182w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, here you have to understand that these are on the edge of the Kurdish area. But these cities are, Mosul is the second biggest city in Iraq. They contained a lot. They were inhabited by a lot of Sunni Muslims, and that’s why they were pounded. So we said we were fighting ISIS, but under the pretext of fighting ISIS, we destroyed the cities and pushed a lot of people into become refugees.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36579" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603-1024x546.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="341" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603-1024x546.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603-600x320.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603-768x410.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603.jpg 1168w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The northern part of both Iraq and Syria are peopled by the Kurds. And this was the leader of the Kurdish movement in Iraq. He resigned shortly after his failed attempt to separate the country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5604.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36580" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5604.jpg" alt="" width="982" height="652" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5604.jpg 982w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5604-600x398.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5604-768x510.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 982px) 100vw, 982px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I’m showing you the relationship with Israel. Here’s his father, Mustafa, meeting with the Mossad chief in 1966.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36581" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605-1024x526.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="329" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605-1024x526.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605-600x308.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605-768x395.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605.jpg 1181w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here’s his father in Israel, meeting with Moshe Dayan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36582" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606-1024x549.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="343" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606-1024x549.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606-600x322.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606-768x412.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606.jpg 1176w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is the Israeli flag flying along with the Kurdish flag in a protest, or a rally in Irbil.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36583" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607-1024x545.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="341" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607-1024x545.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607-600x319.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607-768x408.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607.jpg 1181w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So 9/11 happened. We were very quickly given this narrative, I call it the “<em>Zionist Narrative</em>”, about what happened. And the media has imposed on the public a false story that radical Islamic terrorists were to blame for 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36584" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608-1024x572.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608.jpg 1179w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, the only way to liberate ourselves and our nations from the madness that we’re currently in for 17 years is to expose and understand the true source of the terrorism. If you go away from this presentation or if you believe that Muslims did 9/11 with all nano-thermite and destroying the buildings and fooling the US military, then you will support the logic of war. If you understand we’ve been deceived about 9/11, the logic of war evaporates.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What happened after 9/11 is that the media and the government declared it to be an “<em>Act of War</em>”. Now that’s a very important legal term because that meant that there would not be a criminal investigation, but rather we would treat it as an act of war by 19 Arabs, who happened to be supposedly coming from Afghanistan. And based on that logic, we went to war in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[17:37]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But Larry Johnson, speaking about the terrorists, or the alleged terrorists in Florida – he is a former director of counter-terrorism in the State Department – he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We don’t have anything in history to compare with this. The only thing that comes close to it is a former Soviet intelligence operation.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36585" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609-1024x581.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="363" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609-1024x581.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609-600x340.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609-768x436.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609.jpg 1151w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because these are the 19 led hijackers. But 15 of them lived in Florida, where many of them had been issued duplicate licenses, others had passports had been stolen, which meant that somebody was using their identity for them and leaving behind a trail in their name.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36586" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610-1024x565.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="353" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610-1024x565.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610-600x331.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610-768x424.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610.jpg 1175w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we now know from the BBC News shortly after 9/11 that I think seven of them were well, and alive after 9/11. And they said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“My picture is being used. My name is being used, but I’m fine. I’m alive.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36587" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611-1024x591.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="369" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611-1024x591.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611-600x346.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611-768x443.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611.jpg 1132w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that raises the question, if at least seven of the hijackers were still alive after 9/11, who were the people playing the roles of the real hijackers? Were there real hijackings? Was it all a show? Well, about the 19 hijackers. Robert Mueller, who was then head of the CIA, FBI, excuse me, said in September 2002, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There is no legal proof to prove the identities of the suicidal hijackers.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36588" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612-1024x476.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="298" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612-1024x476.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612-600x279.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612-768x357.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612.jpg 1160w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, this is an old Mossad trick. If you read the book The Little Drummer Girl, you’ll see that the Mossad tells the actress who’s leaving a trail for a Palestinian. The Mossad man tells the woman, the actress:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Terror is theater. Theater is a con trick. Do, you know what that means? Con trick? You’ve been deceived.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s what we are as a nation. The whole deception is meant to deceive us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I went to Germany after 9/11, shortly after, because I knew it was dangerous to be pointing out the lies of the government story when the government was going to war.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I went to Germany for a couple years and worked out of Berlin. And I spoke to some of the former German intelligence agents, heads, chiefs, and they told me, this guy told me that it looked like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“A Hollywood production.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36589" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613-1024x589.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="368" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613-1024x589.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613-600x345.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613-768x441.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613.jpg 1131w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he talked about:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The deathly precision and the magnitude of planning would have required years of planning. And the absence of leaks.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Was further indication that the attacks were state organized actions.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what state are we talking about?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another German guy, Andreas von Bulow, told me without hesitation:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s Israel, Mossad!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when I wrote that in my newspaper, he was a little bit surprised because he said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“He told that to every journalist in Germany, but it had never been printed.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he thought it wouldn’t be printed in my paper as well, but it was printed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I’m going to point out some of the key connections, Israeli connections to 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36590" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614-1024x560.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="350" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614-1024x560.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614-600x328.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614-768x420.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614.jpg 1138w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One of the first ones is that when Israel was becoming a state in 1948, before it became a state, the joint chiefs of Staff did 13 papers about what this would mean for the American military. And they wrote in the 13th paper that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Zionist strategy will seek to involve the US in a continuously widening and deepening series of operations intended to secure maximum jewish objectives.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36591" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615-1024x584.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="365" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615-1024x584.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615-600x342.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615-768x438.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615.jpg 1141w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the maximum jewish objectives were:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The expansion of Eretz Israel.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That means the land of Israel:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Into Jordan, Lebanon and Syria and the establishment of jewish military and economic hegemony over the entire Middle East.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, this is what’s going on today and this is what the United States is facilitating.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the short list of Israeli terrorism attacks prior to 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1944, they killed the British minister, Lord Moyne, in Cairo. This was done by Lehi, or the Stern gang. PIn 46, they sent letter bombs to British officials, including the foreign minister, Ernest Bevin.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 46, they bombed the King David Hotel, killing 93 people. That was British mandate headquarters. It was under the British at that time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5616.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36592" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5616.jpg" alt="" width="742" height="476" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5616.jpg 742w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5616-600x385.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 742px) 100vw, 742px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1947, Irgun placed a bomb at the colonial office in London, which failed to detonate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 47, Lehi sent letter bombs to the Truman White House.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1948, Irgun and Haganah bombed the Semiramis Hotel, killing 26 people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in 1948, Irgun and Lehi massacred the entire village of Deir Yasin.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s all before Israel even became a state. This is the bombing of the King David Hotel. That’s Menachem Begin.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36593" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617.jpg 1071w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This was the worst terrorist attack in Israeli-Palestinian history to this point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then Irgun bombed the British embassy in Rome in October 46.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36594" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618-1024x572.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618.jpg 1046w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they were global in their reach. They would go to London, they would go to Britain. I mean, they would go to Italy. They would even send bombs to America. They sent bombs to the Truman White House.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is one of the bombers. This is Yitzhak Shamir. He was the head of Lehi. He was the head of the Stern gang when they killed this man, the UN mediator Count Folke Bernadotte, in 1948.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36595" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619-1024x580.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="363" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619-1024x580.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619-600x340.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619-768x435.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619.jpg 1038w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, when Menachem Begin came to the United States in 1948, in December, Albert Einstein penned a letter with, 26 jewish intellectuals about what Americans should know about the Israeli terrorists, the jewish terrorists. He was talking about Menachem Begin’s party at the time. And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The public avowals of Begin’s party are no guide whatsoever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism. Whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character. From its past actions, we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5620-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36603" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5620-1.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="576" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5620-1.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5620-1-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5620-1-768x432.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bingo.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[23:22]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, if Americans had paid attention to what Einstein told them in 48, we would not have had 9/11, because the same people are involved, the very same party, ideology and people. What happened is that these terrorists, these are the terrorists of zionism. Begin, Shamir, Sharon.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36597" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621-1024x575.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="359" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621-1024x575.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621-768x431.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621.jpg 1044w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They came to power in 1977. I happened to live in Israel at the time. And this was a very sad day for Labor people because they said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“This is the day that the terrorists have taken power.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They knew what they were talking about.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then the terrorists went to work right away. Begin invaded Lebanon in 78, and there was a Palestinian attack in Nahariya.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the response was, this man said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Kill them all!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they set up a terrorist squad that operated in Lebanon for four years. And this is Chief of Staff Rafael Eitan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36598" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622.jpg 1040w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he set up an organization called the Front for the Liberation of Lebanon from Foreigners, in which he used car bombs and truck bombs to destroy Palestinian and Syrian targets and to foment conflict between the various ethnic groups of Lebanon. It was very successful. He did it for four years!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5623.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36599" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5623.jpg" alt="" width="989" height="553" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5623.jpg 989w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5623-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5623-768x429.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 989px) 100vw, 989px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This was revealed in a recent book that came out this year, Rise and Kill First, by an Israeli author named Ronan Bergman, New York Times bestseller. But when they interviewed Ronan Bergman, the New York Times, or when they write about the book, they leave out that little bit of history, that Israel was using a terrorist squad. They would hire, they would recruit people from the Sunni community, the Shiite community, Druze community, to drive the trucks. And then they would blow them up in places that they needed to blow them up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36600" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624-1024x546.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="341" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624-1024x546.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624-600x320.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624-768x410.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624.jpg 1046w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because this is not discussed in American media, because this shows that Israel is a state that has openly practiced terrorism! There’s no question about it. Remember the years 1979 to 1983? And they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The aim was to cause chaos amongst the Palestinians and Syrians in Lebanon without leaving an Israeli fingerprint, to give them the feeling that they were constantly under attack and instill them with a sense of insecurity.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is exactly the same strategy that was applied to Iraq in the 1990s, since the war. Remember car bombs going off every day between the communities, driving the people against each other?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>And this is exactly what they did to us after 9/11, the bombing in Bali, the bombing in Madrid, the bombing in London, 9/11, so that they went global then, and they wanted to put fear into the entire Western world that were all insecure! And that’s exactly what the terrorism is all about. They want us to feel insecure so that we will support their war agenda.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then in 1983, a nondescript group that had never been heard of before bombed US Marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 marines.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36605" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629-1024x571.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="357" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629-1024x571.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629-768x428.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Caspar Weinberger, defense secretary at the time, said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There is no knowledge, we have no knowledge about who did the bombing.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is exactly the same time that Israel was doing exactly this. And we now know from Viktor Ostrowski, who wrote Mossadnik, who wrote about Mossad’s actions in a book By Way of Deception. He said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Mossad knew the specific time and location of the bombing, but only gave the US skimpy general information, which was worthless.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they knew about the bomb. They knew what it was going to be, where it was going to be, what the truck looked like, but they didn’t tell us. That’s like, either “<em>let it happen on purpose</em>” or “<em>made it happen on purpose</em>”. And it’s the worst, it’s the largest <span style="color: #008000;">[single]</span> loss of life among the US Marines since Iwo Jima.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5630.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36606" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5630.jpg" alt="" width="1025" height="575" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5630.jpg 1025w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5630-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5630-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1025px) 100vw, 1025px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here are a couple of Israeli terrorists from the 1950s. Shimon Peres, Pinhas Lavon and Moshe Dayan. These two characters play a big role in Israeli history, especially in the use of false flag terrorism. This photograph was taken a few months after they were busted for the Lavon Affair in Egypt when they put bombs, nitroglycerin bombs, in American libraries and British libraries and cinema theaters and cultural institutions in Cairo, in an attempt to drive the British and the Americans away from Nasser, away from Egypt. But they were caught. And they’re still smiling!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36607" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631-1024x566.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="354" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631-1024x566.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631-600x331.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631-768x424.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631.jpg 1030w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>After it was discovered by the prime minister at the time, Moshe Sherrett. He said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Shimon Peres shares the same ideology as Pinhas Lavon. He wants to frighten the West into supporting Israel’s aims.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is exactly where we are today. The whole name of the game of the terrorism is to scare us into supporting Israel’s aims, to drive us as a nation, as a people, as a military, right behind the Israel camp, so that we become the fighters of their wars for them, because we are affected by the fear.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1967, some people would say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Israel would never do that. They’re our ally.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I would point them to read about the USS Liberty attack in 1967 during the Six Day War in which Israeli planes and boats bombed the USS Liberty, a spy ship, which was in international waters off the coast of Egypt, killing 34 Americans and wounding 171.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36608" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632-1024x561.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="351" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632-1024x561.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632-600x329.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632-768x421.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632.jpg 1031w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Two thirds of the crew was destroyed, was murdered or injured. It’s the most decorated ship in naval history. And it’s the one subject of this war, the Six Day War that Americans know virtually nothing about because it’s suppressed. Because if Americans understood. The pilots were asked by the ground control:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Identify the ship!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The pilots called back:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s American. It’s American!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The order came from the ground:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Sink the ship! No survivors.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, if Americans understood that history, which has been revealed since 2006, they would realize that Israel is a state that will attack the United States when it suits their purposes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36609" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633.jpg 1027w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is an attack in Libya in 1986 in which the United States was tricked. Israel tricked the United States into attacking Libya. They rented an apartment in Tripoli. Then they broadcast radio transmissions to the apartment in Tripoli, which then went up into the satellite. The American signals intelligence picked up the information thinking that it was coming from Libya and then went and attacked Libya. This was when they killed Qaddafi’s daughter and all that, back in 1986.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5634.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36610" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5634.jpg" alt="" width="1018" height="543" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5634.jpg 1018w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5634-600x320.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5634-768x410.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1018px) 100vw, 1018px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[29:31]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the War on Terror. I’m going to talk a little bit about how the War on Terror evolved. It’s an Israeli stratagem. How it developed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36611" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635-1024x536.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="335" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635-600x314.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635-768x402.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635.jpg 1033w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1978 is when this all started to come into fruition. In 1978, Israeli intelligence agent Arnon Milchan made his first film called the Medusa Touch, in which a Boeing 747 crashes into the Pan Am building.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5637.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36612" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5637.jpg" alt="" width="1017" height="566" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5637.jpg 1017w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5637-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5637-768x427.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1017px) 100vw, 1017px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5639.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36613" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5639.jpg" alt="" width="1025" height="576" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5639.jpg 1025w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5639-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5639-768x432.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1025px) 100vw, 1025px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here they are setting up for the film. This is the cover of the book. And here we have the same year he made the film. Here we have Arnon Milchan meeting with Israeli Defense Minister Ezer Weizman.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you can see he’s at the very highest level of the Israeli military. They’re making a movie predicting something that’s going to happen in the future.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5640.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36614" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5640.jpg" alt="" width="1016" height="549" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5640.jpg 1016w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5640-600x324.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5640-768x415.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1016px) 100vw, 1016px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here he is. He’s a big Hollywood producer. Made JFK, Pretty Woman, Brazil, other films. He’s said to be worth $5 billion.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the point is, if you read the book about Arnon Milchan called Confidential, you’ll see that he is the external banker who controls the slush funds that Mossad uses for external operations. That’s where the money comes from.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he made this film in the year 2000. Well, his partner, his business partner, a man named Rupert Murdoch, who owns Fox News, Rupert Murdoch’s company, made this film in 2,000 in which a Boeing passenger aircraft is flown into the World Trade Center.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36615" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641-1024x570.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641-1024x570.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this aired on TV. This plane in the movie was a half an hour film, worth watching. It’s called The Lone Gunman, pilot episode. And in this movie, the plane is remotely hijacked with passengers on it. And the blame is put on the American Military Industrial Complex, looking for a new enemy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5642.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36616" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5642.jpg" alt="" width="908" height="573" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5642.jpg 908w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5642-600x379.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5642-768x485.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 908px) 100vw, 908px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1979, the head, this is one year later. The head of Israeli intelligence, this man, Isser Harel, predicted that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Arabs would attack the tallest building in New York City.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He made that prediction to this man, Michael Evans, a Zionist, a jewish Christian Evangelist from Texas. And Harel predicted that the Arab terrorists would attack the tallest building in New York City. That was 22 years before 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5643.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36617" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5643.jpg" alt="" width="954" height="569" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5643.jpg 954w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5643-600x358.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5643-768x458.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 954px) 100vw, 954px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you see the relationship here between Mr Evans and Menachem Begin. The prediction went like this. You know, they were meeting, and Mr Evans said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Do you think that terrorism will come to America? And if so, where and why?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5644.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36618" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5644.jpg" alt="" width="1025" height="569" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5644.jpg 1025w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5644-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5644-768x426.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1025px) 100vw, 1025px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is 1979. Harel said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I fear it will come to you in America. America has the power, but not the will to fight terrorism.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Et cetera, et cetera.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As to the where, Harel said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“New York City is a symbol of freedom and capitalism. It’s likely they will attack. They will strike the empire State Building, your tallest building, and symbol of your power.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He pretended to be ignorant about the tallest building.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36619" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645.jpg 1031w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in 1979, this man, Bibi Netanyahu, came back from his., &#8230; He had been working in Boston for a Rothschild company called Boston Consulting Group, in Boston. He went back, this is his father. And they started something called the Netanyahu Institute, in which they began promoting the idea of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Terrorism being the scourge that the West has to fight.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they had a conference in 1979 called The Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism. They blamed all the terrorism in the world on Russia, on the Soviet Union. And George Bush spoke on the third day at the final conference and spoke in support of these pre-emptive strikes against nations that are supporting terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36620" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646-1024x570.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646-1024x570.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646.jpg 1033w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Begin, I mean, Mr Netanyahu went on to make a career promoting the War on Terrorism. Terrorism, How The West Can Win, Fighting Terrorism, and calling for the United States to come to the Middle East to wage war against those terrorist entities that were plaguing Israel. Because Netanyahu logic goes like this. He says that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Israel is attacked because the Arabs are opposed to our Western identity, our Western values, our Western way of life. We’re a Western nation.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He says, and:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Therefore the West is the target. Therefore it’s incumbent on the West to come and fight the terrorists for us, because we’re all the target.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5647.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36621" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5647.jpg" alt="" width="917" height="575" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5647.jpg 917w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5647-600x376.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5647-768x482.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 917px) 100vw, 917px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what they did in 1983, in order to have a War on Terror, you need to have a foe. So they created the foe. They created the foe in Pakistan using a guy named Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who was a very anti-Western militia group he had called Hezb-I-Islami. And the CIA and the Saudis bankrolled the operation. And Israelis trained and armed these people in Pakistan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36622" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648-1024x569.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648-1024x569.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648.jpg 1027w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was done in 1983, in 85. It began when this man, Ehud Barak, was the head of Israeli Military Intelligence. And they sent their men and weapons they had taken off the battlefield of Lebanon, took them to Pakistan and trained these characters, people like Osama Bin Laden, in the arts of terrorism. How to make a bicycle bomb and a car bomb and how to fight urban battles against the Russians. These jihadis were meant to fight against the Russians, the Red Army in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36623" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649.jpg 1028w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in 1983 it was done by Charlie Wilson, this Congressman from Texas. He’s the one who led the whole thing. And he arranged with the Israelis to provide the weapons and the trainers in Pakistan. And this is him shaking hands with Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the question is, why would the United States and Britain, why would they be funding and training the most anti-Western of the Mujahideen? This man was rabidly anti-Western. Why would you do that? Because they were creating the boogeyman. They were creating the enemy for the next War on Terror, which was Al-Qaeda. And it was done.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5650.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36624" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5650.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="570" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5650.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5650-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5650-768x428.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the man. This is Zvi Rafiah, the head of Israeli Intelligence in Washington, DC. And he was this man’s handler, Charlie Wilson’s handler. And this man, Zvi Rafiah, used Charlie Wilson’s office as if it were his own office.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5651.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36625" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5651.jpg" alt="" width="1014" height="570" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5651.jpg 1014w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5651-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5651-768x432.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1014px) 100vw, 1014px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is the Hebrew speaking double agent named Ali Mohamed, who was Osama Bin Laden’s first trainer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[35:33]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, he’s supposedly Egyptian, but he speaks fluent Hebrew. Where did he learn the Hebrew? He’s a double agent. So he was working with the Israelis, training Osama Bin Laden. And this guy, he set up the cell that bombed the US embassies in Africa. He trained the men who were blamed for bombing the World Trade Center in 1993. And he trained the men who killed Rabbi Kahane in New York City.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then he was finally arrested and put in jail for bombing the embassies in Africa. He was put in a federal penitentiary in this country, from which he disappeared without a trace.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5652.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36626" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5652.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5652.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5652-600x317.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5652-768x406.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is the Gulbuddin’s gang. This is when they became Al-Qaeda. In 1994, the Arabs became Al-Qaeda and the Pashtun speakers became Taliban. Then Israeli Mossad got the contract for the World Trade Center in 1987. Security contract, anti-terrorism security contract.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5653.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36627" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5653.jpg" alt="" width="906" height="544" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5653.jpg 906w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5653-600x360.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5653-768x461.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 906px) 100vw, 906px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it went to this man, Avraham Shalom Bendor. He was the head of Shin Bet. He was involved in a murder in Palestine, in Israel of a couple Palestinians. And he came to America and was the president of this company Atwell Security who got the contract for the World Trade Center.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5654.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36628" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5654.jpg" alt="" width="1022" height="573" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5654.jpg 1022w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5654-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5654-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1022px) 100vw, 1022px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when the Port Authority discovered, this is Zvi Malkin and Shalom Bendor, when the Port Authority discovered that this man was using a fake name and he’d been convicted of murder in Israel, they tore up the contract. Had they not torn up the contract in 1987, 9/11 probably would have happened in the 1980s or early 1990s. But they were rejected by the Port Authority.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5655.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36629" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5655.jpg" alt="" width="1012" height="571" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5655.jpg 1012w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5655-600x339.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5655-768x433.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1012px) 100vw, 1012px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They didn’t go home to Israel. They didn’t give up the plan. They went to work for a couple American jews who did have inside in the Pentagon, Maurice Greenberg and Jules Kroll. And Jules Kroll had a company called Kroll Associates who got the security contract for the World Trade Center in 1993, after the first bombing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And at that point, Shalom Bendor was working for him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5656.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36630" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5656.jpg" alt="" width="1013" height="567" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5656.jpg 1013w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5656-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5656-768x430.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1013px) 100vw, 1013px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in 1992, this son of a terrorist. This is Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago right now. His father was a member of that Stern Gang, the Lehi Gang. This man became the senior advisor to Bill Clinton. This is the guy that set up the whole Lewinsky thing. But he was also instrumental. He was the Mossad’s man in the White House, so that he made sure that the right people got appointed to the bench. The right appointments were made of under Clinton to make the 9/11 project move forward. And his father was a member of Lehi. He served in the Israeli army, yet he was the senior advisor to the White House.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5657.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36631" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5657.jpg" alt="" width="992" height="569" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5657.jpg 992w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5657-600x344.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5657-768x441.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 992px) 100vw, 992px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. And in this case, Michael Chertoff was the US Attorney for the District of New Jersey. He played a key role in the prosecution in which Muslims were blamed for the bombing. The six people were killed. Chertoff oversaw the prosecution. And Mukasey, Judge Mukasey, oversaw the actual trial.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36632" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658-1024x569.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658-1024x569.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658.jpg 1029w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in the trial, the FBI, who was involved in actually making the truck bomb, they paid this man $1 million.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36633" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659-1024x572.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is another Egyptian colonel. This man was the guy who ran the sting operation in which these guys were stung. And he used wires and recorded so that they became indictable. And he testified. He was paid $1 million. This guy, Emad Salem, was paid $1 million to testify against these other fellows that he had rounded up. And then he went into the witness protection program, you know, new name, new face.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5660.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36634" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5660.jpg" alt="" width="1013" height="577" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5660.jpg 1013w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5660-600x342.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5660-768x437.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1013px) 100vw, 1013px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then this ideation of the War on Terror, or of the 9/11 came out in this article in Foreign Affairs, in which Philip Zelikow, John Deutch and Ashton Carter wrote about “<em>Catastrophic Terrorism</em>”, how this would be something that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Could happen next month!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in this article, they had a study group. They imagined the “<em>transforming event</em>”. They imagined the event, like 9/11, that would change America, fundamentally change our policies, our foreign policy, our domestic policy, change the nation. This was printed in Christmas 1998.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36635" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661-1024x574.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="359" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661-1024x574.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661-768x430.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661.jpg 1026w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Two of the authors, Ashton Carter and John Deutch, worked for a company called Global Technology Partners, which is an exclusive affiliate of Rothschild North America. I point out these Rothschild connections because there are throughout the entire saga. You find that one step removed from the crime, you find a Rothschild, a Rothschild connection. And the Rothschilds are, of course, the bankers that control our Federal Reserve system and other countries central banks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5662.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36636" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5662.jpg" alt="" width="928" height="538" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5662.jpg 928w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5662-600x348.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5662-768x445.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 928px) 100vw, 928px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, 9/11, the New Pearl Harbor. The Zionist neocons had called for a New Pearl Harbor in order to effect the change they needed to see.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36637" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665.jpg 1033w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the Project for a New American Century run by the Kagan family. These are some of the signatories to the document. And they had imagined that this revolutionary change that they saw turning America into the global police force:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Would require a catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a New Pearl Harbor.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5666.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36638" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5666.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="571" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5666.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5666-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5666-768x428.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in 2001, an Israeli Mossad company, Rothschild company, called ICTS, controlled security at the US airports. And these are the three principles. Here is Yitzhak Shamir’s son, Yair Shamir. This is Cukierman, and this is Boaz Harel. They ran the company that either let these guys on the airplane, or didn’t. But their company was excused from the process. And so we’ll never know unless we have some change in the attitude about 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[41:04]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36639" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667-1024x563.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="352" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667-1024x563.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667-600x330.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667-768x422.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667.jpg 1028w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then in July 2001, Zionists, that’s strong supporters of Israel, got the lease for the World Trade Center. It became their property. And that was done through a man named Ron Lauder, the son of Este Lauder.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36640" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669-1024x572.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669.jpg 1026w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in Israel, he works together with Major General Daniel Rothschild at Mossad University. He has a school there, and he runs the Institute for Policy and Strategy. This man was put in charge of privatizing New York property for Governor Pataky. He oversaw the privatization efforts of New York State in which they decided to privatize the World Trade Center, because the World Trade Center was public property prior to 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36641" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670-1024x561.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="351" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670-1024x561.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670-600x329.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670-768x421.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670.jpg 1033w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then it went from the port authority. This man, Lew Eisenberg, he transferred after negotiations, the property to this man, Larry Silverstein. But these men are connected through something called the UJA Federation of New York, which is a Zionist fundraising operation, where he’s the national chairman and he is on the board of the Planning Board.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5671.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36642" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5671.jpg" alt="" width="962" height="538" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5671.jpg 962w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5671-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5671-768x430.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 962px) 100vw, 962px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And again, Larry Silverstein, the man who got the World Trade Center lease for 99 years is this man here. He had weekly phone calls every Sunday afternoon with Benjamin Netanyahu.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36643" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672-1024x570.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672-1024x570.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672-768x428.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672.jpg 1027w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then on July 24, 2001, he got the keys to the front door of the World Trade Center.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36644" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673-1024x537.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="336" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673-1024x537.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673-600x315.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673-768x403.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673.jpg 1027w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is what was left five weeks later.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36645" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674-1024x528.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="330" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674-1024x528.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674-600x310.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674-768x396.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674.jpg 1027w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On 9/11 Ehud Olmerttt, Israel’s Deputy Prime Minister, was on a secret visit to New York City.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36646" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675-1024x544.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="340" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675-1024x544.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675-600x319.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675-768x408.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675.jpg 1033w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This was taken about two weeks later, but he was there on September 10 and September 11 in New York City.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5676.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36647" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5676.jpg" alt="" width="1017" height="549" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5676.jpg 1017w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5676-600x324.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5676-768x415.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1017px) 100vw, 1017px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here he is with Netanyahu. By the way, he wound up spending a couple years in jail recently for bribery.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5677.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36648" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5677.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="560" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5677.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5677-600x328.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5677-768x420.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here he is after he came back from his ten days away in Israel, he came back to the United States.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And since New York City and Jerusalem are sister cities, and he was the Mayor of Jerusalem and the Deputy Prime Minister of Israel, he acted like the Big Brother to Rudy Giuliani.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36649" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679-1024x565.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="353" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679-1024x565.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679-600x331.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679-768x423.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But on September 11, when all civilian flights were grounded in this country, one full El Al Boeing 747 took off from JFK bound for Tel Aviv. The flight departed at 4:11 pm with US military officials on the scene authorizing and clearing the flight for takeoff. Who was on that plane? Well, obviously, Ehud Olmertt was one of the people on the plane.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is about the Put Options. You may have heard about the Put Options in which people profited by knowing that the stocks of the airlines and insurance companies would tank on 9/11. And 95% of these options were put by this man’s former company.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36650" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680-1024x567.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="354" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680-1024x567.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680-600x332.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680.jpg 1036w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now this man is “<em>Buzzy</em>” Krongard. And on 9/11, he was executive director of the CIA. But before he became executive director of the CIA, he was the director of Alex Brown, the company that placed the put options.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36651" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681-1024x650.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="406" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681-1024x650.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681-600x381.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681-768x487.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681.jpg 1280w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And here’s the relationship between Alvin Krongard, Alvin Krongard and his wife. And his wife works directly with Rothschild Asset Management.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there were thousands of Israelis who were warned about 9/11, and there were 4,000 who were expected to have been at <span style="color: #008000;">[in the area of]</span> the World Trade Center that day, or the Pentagon.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5682.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36652" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5682.jpg" alt="" width="684" height="606" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5682.jpg 684w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5682-600x532.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 684px) 100vw, 684px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that comes from the Israeli Foreign Ministry. That’s not Arab propaganda. It’s from the Israeli Foreign Ministry.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And apparently they got the message through a system called Odigo, which warned people who had that Israeli system of messaging not to go to the World Trade Center that day. The warning message went out about two or 3 hours before it happened. It warned people:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Not to be at the World Trade Center at 8:45 because all hell would break loose.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5683.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36653" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5683.jpg" alt="" width="980" height="596" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5683.jpg 980w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5683-600x365.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5683-768x467.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 980px) 100vw, 980px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So apparently those 4,000 Israelis who avoided harm got the message, they got the memo.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36654" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684-1024x571.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="357" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684-1024x571.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684-768x428.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684.jpg 1084w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there were these “<em>Five Dancing Israeli</em>” who were seen celebrating and high fiving the attack at the World Trade Center before <span style="color: #008000;">[after]</span> the first plane struck. They were on the New Jersey side of the river, and they were photographing and high fiving, and they were observed, and they were arrested on the afternoon of 9/11. It was written about in the New Jersey newspapers, but it was not reported in any other paper outside of New Jersey.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5685.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36655" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5685.jpg" alt="" width="1006" height="575" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5685.jpg 1006w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5685-600x343.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5685-768x439.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1006px) 100vw, 1006px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The two men that did not appear, they’re on a TV show. These three guys are on TV show. They said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re not Mossad!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, because the two Mossad guys are sitting in the audience. The Kurtzberg brothers were sitting in the audience because they could not go up on the stage and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re not Mossad.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They are Mossad. And US law enforcement knew it from the minute they arrested these guys that they were Mossad.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And one of the guys, this is one of the minions, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Our purpose was to document the event.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here’s the head of the company behind these foster grants here, Dominik Suter. He fled the country on the 12th or the 13th, and when the FBI went to get him again, he was gone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36656" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686-1024x575.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="359" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686-1024x575.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686-768x431.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686.jpg 1080w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>And this is one of the trucks of their company. They had this truck that was reported by New York police, Urban Moving Systems. It wasn’t a moving company at all! It was a front company. It was set up to facilitate the 9/11 attacks. And they had this truck with the picture of the World Trade Center being struck by a plane.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now on 9/11, when it happened, in the studio, the London studio, the BBC, world television, the largest English speaking broadcasting in the world, who was there except Ehud Barak! Ready to give the interpretation. Remember, the General, Wesley Clark said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We did not have American understanding of it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, what he’s implying is that we had:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“A foreign country’s understanding of it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We had Israeli understanding. The Israelis interpreted 9/11 for us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5687.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36657" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5687.jpg" alt="" width="1016" height="568" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5687.jpg 1016w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5687-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5687-768x429.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1016px) 100vw, 1016px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This man, the head of former Defense Minister, Chief of Staff, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The world will never be the same from today on! We know who’s behind this, Osama Bin Laden, and we know where he is!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s time to launch an operational, concrete war against terror, full stop!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[46:46]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s what we’ve been doing for the last 17 years, following the Israeli diktat! Living our lives according to the Israeli interpretation of 9/11. That’s what they’ve imposed on us. They’ve imposed a Zionist narrative to explain what happened on 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5688.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36658" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5688.jpg" alt="" width="963" height="604" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5688.jpg 963w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5688-600x376.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5688-768x482.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 963px) 100vw, 963px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here’s Bibi Netanyahu. And on 9/11, he praised the attacks because they had kickstarted his War on Terror that he’d been pushing uphill for the last, 20 years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36659" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689-1024x569.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689-1024x569.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689.jpg 1087w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He told the New York Times. He was asked:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How will this affect American Israeli relations?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s very good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>When 30,000 people are expected to be in the pile, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s very good. It will generate immediate sympathy.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the relationship between Netanyahu and Barak is that Barak was his commander in the Sayeret Matkal, a covert commando force of Israeli military intelligence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36665" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Bibi Netanyahu spoke the next day, September 12, in Jerusalem.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36666" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706-1024x541.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="338" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706-1024x541.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706-600x317.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706-768x406.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706.jpg 1034w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We must build a coalition against terror today. It’s time to take on the militant Islamic regimes with a great deal of strength. We should crush the terrorist infrastructure that threatens the entire free world.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yet if you look at the coalition that’s put together in Syria or in Iraq, you will never find the Israeli flag, because the Israelis are the ones who are running the operation, but keep their fingers out of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you see now in Syria, you see the Israelis are now bombing every day. They’re attacking Syria on a daily basis. And they were the ones who actually got the Russian plane shot down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Their four fighters came over and were striking Syria, putting the slow moving Russian reconnaissance plane in the middle, and it got shot.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he also said, Netanyahu said in 2001, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s what they’re doing to us. They’re pulling us around like an ox with a ring in its nose. And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We are benefiting.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is him speaking to an Israeli audience.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36667" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707-1024x569.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707-1024x569.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707.jpg 1035w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the twin towers, the Pentagon and the American struggle in Iraq.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said that in 2008.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5708.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36668" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5708.jpg" alt="" width="996" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5708.jpg 996w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5708-600x326.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5708-768x417.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 996px) 100vw, 996px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there was an Israeli son of the Mossad who controlled the 9/11 investigation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36669" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709-1024x539.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="337" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709-1024x539.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709-600x316.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709-768x404.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709.jpg 1038w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the man, Michael Chertoff. He was put in charge of the investigation, which became a non-investigation in which the evidence was destroyed. And for day to day decisions, Chertoff had the last word.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5710.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36670" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5710.jpg" alt="" width="991" height="543" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5710.jpg 991w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5710-600x329.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5710-768x421.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 991px) 100vw, 991px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then he became Homeland Security Czar in 2005. In this position, he maintained his control of the evidence of 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5711.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36671" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5711.jpg" alt="" width="1006" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5711.jpg 1006w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5711-600x323.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5711-768x413.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1006px) 100vw, 1006px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Controlling the evidence, destroying the evidence, was a key aspect of his work. And the evidence was destroyed from the day one. This is some of the steel that was piled up. That was a big steel pile of steel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36672" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712-1024x533.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="333" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712-1024x533.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712-600x312.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712-768x400.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712.jpg 1038w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they began right away carting the steel off to a couple Zionist junkyards where it was destroyed 24/7. Cut into small pieces, mixed with other scrap and sent to Asia for destruction.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because the steel would provide evidence of what really caused the towers to fall.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5713.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36673" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5713.jpg" alt="" width="831" height="542" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5713.jpg 831w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5713-600x391.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5713-768x501.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 831px) 100vw, 831px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the Zionists presided over the 9/11 lawsuits and litigation. This is the judge, Alvin K. Hellerstein. There was a fundamental conflict of interest, though.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36674" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715.jpg 1030w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>His son worked for a law firm in Israel that represented ICTS, the company that was overseeing security at the airports on 9/11 in Boston, in Newark, in Dulles. Here’s the relationship.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36675" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>His son was working for a company that was the parent company of ICTS. And that same group of people, ICTS, was in the tort litigation that he oversaw for the families of 9/11. That’s a primary conflict of interest. And the Zionists also oversaw the settlements of the money.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36676" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717-1024x573.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717-1024x573.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This man dished out the money for the first, 2,900 families. His name is Kenneth Feinberg, very high level Zionist. This is Sheila Birnbaum. She oversaw the war of attrition against the 96 families. There are 96 families who held out for a day in court. They never got it. One by one, they were settled out of court.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the Zionist control the 9/11 myth and the legacy. This is the Ground Zero. This is the World Trade Center memorial.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5718.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36677" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5718.jpg" alt="" width="988" height="542" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5718.jpg 988w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5718-600x329.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5718-768x421.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 988px) 100vw, 988px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they control the interpretation of the event was given to us by this 9/11 Commission Report by this man, Philip Zelikow, who’s an expert at creating public myths.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36678" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719-1024x558.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="349" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719-1024x558.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719-600x327.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719-768x419.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719.jpg 1036w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he came to the table as Executive Director of the Commission with a complete outline already finished, before the staff even began working.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So he had prepared the myth in advance. Then they would pick information that they would put into the myth to make it work.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5720.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36679" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5720.jpg" alt="" width="990" height="574" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5720.jpg 990w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5720-600x348.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5720-768x445.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 990px) 100vw, 990px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the people who worked on the 9/11 Commission, like the senior counsel John Farmer, said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What government and military officials told Congress, the Commission, the media and the public about who knew what when, was almost entirely and inexplicably untrue.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here are the co-chairmen of the Commission Report.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5721.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36680" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5721.jpg" alt="" width="1017" height="537" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5721.jpg 1017w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5721-600x317.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5721-768x406.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1017px) 100vw, 1017px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“To this day, we don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us. It was just so far from the truth!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So these are the people who actually wrote the report or worked on the report telling you that it’s a pack of lies!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then the Israelis constructed the memorial, the legacy, where the kids go in the school buses and get the walk around and go to the museum.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5722.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36681" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5722.jpg" alt="" width="1014" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5722.jpg 1014w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5722-600x320.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5722-768x410.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1014px) 100vw, 1014px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The World Trade Center memorial was designed by an Israeli, this man here, Michael Arad, who’s the son of Moshe Arad, the former Israeli ambassador of the United States.</p>
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<p>So from A to Z, from ideation to legacy, it’s all been an Israeli project. For 17 years the media has given us this story, a false narrative about 9/11 and the War on Terror, all the while suppressing real evidence that disproves the official myth.</p>
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<p>Like the molten metal that poured off the building. Like the molten metal that was found in the basement of the World Trade Center. Like the tiny droplets of molten iron that were found in the dust. Because the attitude of the media has been this is from three years later. New York Times.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“</span>In the three years since 9/11, we’ve begun to understand that it’s possible to know what happened without knowing what happened.<span style="color: black;">”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s their position! We don’t need to know!</p>
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<p>GorgonIII<br />
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I have linked to a lot of Bolly&#8217;s work on 9/11 in this substack essay: Israel and elements of the US government did 9/11 https://binkylarue.substack.com/p/israel-and-elements-of-the-us-government<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this interview Andy Steel and Roland Angle of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth (AE911 Truth) discuss why the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center buildings needs to be exposed to not only to the general public but specifically to the engineering community.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Although there are over 3,500 architects and engineers who have joined AE911 Truth and who support this view, the vast majority of their fellow professionals have been deliberately kept the dark by the compromised leadership of their professional organizations. Roland Angle says that:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>In the course of the last four or five years, we’ve made that presentation to more than <strong>1,000 engineers at the grassroots level</strong>, all across the country is everywhere from Florida to Alaska, to the New York area, to California, the Southwest, the Southeast, the Midwest. Everywhere we’ve gone, <strong>we’re getting 100% agreement from the rank and file</strong> that the issues that we’ve raised need to be addressed.</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>Host Andy Steele is joined by AE911Truth’s Roland Angle to discuss to his upcoming book, Engineering the 9/11 Cover-Up: How the WTC Evidence was Kept Secret from the World, which will name names and lay out the story of how the official narrative of the WTC towers’ destruction on September 11th, 2001 was cemented into the minds of the public.</em></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><em>As well, Roland discusses the work of Project Due Diligence and the success it has had, measured in the resistance it has received from professional engineering organizations, which have pulled out all the stops in trying to prevent presentations of the WTC evidence from happening at their local chapters.</em>”</span></p>
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September 11 attacks, also called 9/11 attacks, series of airline hijackings and suicide attacks committed in 2001 by 19 militants associated with the Islamic extremist group al-Qaeda against targets in the United States, the deadliest terrorist attacks on American soil in U.S. history. The attacks against New York City and Washington, D.C., caused extensive death and destruction and triggered an enormous U.S. effort to combat terrorism. Some 2,750 people were killed in New York, 184 at the Pentagon, and 40 in Pennsylvania (where one of the hijacked planes crashed after the passengers attempted to retake the plane); all 19 terrorists died (see Researcher&#8217;s Note: September 11 attacks). Police and fire departments in New York were especially hard-hit: hundreds had rushed to the scene of the attacks, and more than 400 police officers and firefighters were killed.]</p>
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<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-1">AE911 Truth Chairman’s Qualification and Background</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-2">Project Due Diligence</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-3">NIST Report Utterly Failed to Explain the Collapses</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-4">The Founding of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-5">911 as an Engineering Issue Not an Architectural Issue</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-6">The Start a Project Called Project Due Diligence</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-7">Training Engineers to Do Presentations</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-8">Results – 100% Agreement That NIST Reports Did Not Meet Professional Standards</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-9">The American Society of Civil Engineers [ASCE] Preventing Presentations to Its Members</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-10">Project Due Diligence — A Coherent Explanation of What Went Wrong with the Gov Reports</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-11">We Have Identified the “Persons of Interest”</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-12">Professional Organizations Unable to Debunk AE911truth So They Try to Cancel It</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-13">The People That Committed This Crime Also Planned the Cover Up</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-14">The Cover-Up Sequence</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-15">NIST Reports, Didn’t Even Examine the Evidence of Explosives</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-16">From Sep 2021 to Oct 22 Most of the Evidence was Destroyed</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-17">NIST Shouldn’t Have Been the Organization to Investigate 911 Due to Conflict of Interest</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-18">Professional Engineers Associations Involved in the Cover-Up</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-19">We’ve Identified 23 Decisions in Those Reports That Are Not Consistent with the Evidence</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-20">The Investigative Process was Derailed by the Very Organizations Creating the Reports</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-21">Peter Jennings’ Strange Question About Building Seven</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-22">Book: Engineering the 911 Cover-Up &#8211; How the WTC Evidence was Kept Secret from the World</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-23">911 is a Major Event &#8211; Hundreds of Thousands, Millions of People Died as a Result</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-24">As Engineers, We Still Have Our Duty to Tell the Truth as We Understand It</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-25">They Try to Stop the Discussion from Happening at All!</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-26">Most Engineers Aren’t Even Aware That a Third Tower Fell</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-27">ASCE Doesn’t Want Any Discussion of WTC Building 7</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-28">NIST &#8211; for the First and Only Time in History a Steel-Framed High-Rise was Destroyed by Routine Fire!</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-29">NIST Gave a Complicated Series of Rube-Goldberg Progression of Events Explanation for WTC-7</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-30">University of Alaska Said the NIST Report on WTC-7 Wasn’t Possible</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-31">Engineers Have Been Betrayed by Our Professional Leadership</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-32">The Importance of 911 Truth</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-33">When You Run Away and Hide Your Head in the Sand, Things Only Get Worse</a></p>
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<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> Welcome to another episode of 9/11 Free Fall. I am the host, Andy Steele, and today we’re going to be talking with Roland Angle, our chairman here at AE911 Truth.</p>
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<p>Now, I don’t know if it’s going to run before or after this particular Free Fall episode, but at some point this week, you’re going to see him giving an awesome presentation on our new show called The Focus. So we bring on a panel of engineers we’re presenting on topics that are within the controlled demolition issue, but it zeroes in on a particular aspect, questions not before asked.</p>
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<p>So if it’s not out yet, keep an eye out for that bulletin and Roland’s presentation. If we have put it out already by the time you see this show, then certainly go to our YouTube channel and check it out.</p>
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<p>But who is this guy? Well, he’s been on this show before. He is the chairman of AE911 Truth. He graduated from the University of California, Berkeley, with a Bachelor of Science in civil engineering and also served in the US. Army Special Forces, where he was trained in the use of explosives. That’s very pertinent to our issue.</p>
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<p>He became a licensed civil engineer in California, and his 50 years of engineering experience has included designing and testing blast hardened missile launch facilities and designing US. Naval explosive containers, harbor terminal facilities, earth foundation systems, and hydraulic systems. He’s owned three different construction companies, and he’s taught engineering subjects to high school students.</p>
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<p>And of course, he heads up AE911 Truth’s Project Due Diligence, which we’ll be talking a little bit about today. It’s getting engineers out into the grassroots of the engineering community, also out into local citizens groups as well. Talking about the World Trade Center evidence, the points clearly showing that these buildings were brought down with explosives. Along with that, Roland has a book that is going to be coming out. We announced it earlier this week.</p>
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<p>So let’s just go ahead and bring him in. He’ll be talking about that today. Roland, welcome back to 9/11 Free Fall!</p>
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<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> Yeah, and it’s great having you here. You’re doing a lot of work, and it’s work that when we see the fruit of it, we talk about it.</p>
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<p>But a lot of stuff that happens behind the scenes, people don’t get to see. So I love to be able to highlight the heroes here that don’t always get out into the spotlight and don’t really seek it.</p>
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<p>But we wouldn’t have this Project Due Diligence going on if you hadn’t stepped up and really put all of this together, had the idea and devised it. And you work with a lot of engineer volunteers. In doing that, we’re probably picking up new people, don’t know what the heck I’m talking about when I say Project Due Diligence. So just briefly remind our audience what that is, what those engineers are doing, and essentially what it’s all about.</p>
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<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> Project Due Diligence is our attempt to educate our fellow engineers, particularly the structural and civil engineers, in regards to the evidence that we have uncovered regarding the failure of the three high rise buildings at World Trade Center in New York City on 9/11 <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2001]</strong></span></p>
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<p>We have examined the reports that were issued by the National Institute of Standards of Technology <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[NIST]</strong></span> on the Twin Towers in 2005 and on the Building Seven in 2008, as they were required to do by the law that was passed by Congress in October of 2002, more than a year after the event. Tasking them with the job of investigating the collapse of the buildings and coming up with the reasons why the buildings collapsed.</p>
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<p>So we started reading those reports as architects and engineers individually back in 2005 when the first one came out. By 2006, it was already evident that the report on the Twin Towers was seriously flawed. And we knew that because it never did explain what it was supposed to explain, which is why and how the buildings collapsed.</p>
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<p>It was a 13,000 page document that ended at the beginning of the initiation of the collapse of the building. And they explained the collapse of the building with three words:</p>
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<p>And that was their total technical explanation for how that building came down.</p>
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<p>Well, that’s not what they were supposed to do. They were supposed to give us a model, an analysis, and a reason why that building came down, both of them, in the manner in which they did, which was in about 10 seconds. And that was a totally unexpected event. Everyone in the world was shocked by what they saw that day.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-3"><span style="color: #ff0000;">NIST Report Utterly Failed to Explain the Collapses</span></h3>
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<p>And it was our engineering expertise that was called upon to explain why and how that happened. And that report utterly failed to even address the question! It went into the plane impacts. It went into the fires. It went into the structural damage due to the plane impacts, the damage caused by the fires. But once the collapse began, the narrative left off, and didn’t give us any explanation for why the entire lower parts of the buildings collapsed.</p>
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<p>So in 2006, an architect in the East Bay, Richard Gage, began to question this report, and he began to make appearances to his fellow architects, to engineers, to the general public, to anyone who would listen. And I attended one of those performances back in 2007, or so right around there is and he made a great deal of sense. He made a good argument that the report on the Twin Towers actually raised more questions than it answered.</p>
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<p>So he had a petition there that people could sign asking for a new investigation, and he had one for architects and engineers as experts in the field. I signed that petition is and a couple of years later, the report on Building Seven came out, and it took several years to analyze that report. We did get the details of a collapse mechanism in that report that NIST compiled.</p>
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<p>But as we began to look into their what they called a “<em>progressive collapse theory</em>”, the details of the report indicated that there were decisions made that did not follow the evidence and did not give a scientific explanation for why the building came down that made any sense.</p>
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<p>So we simply added Building Seven onto our questions about the Twin Towers. And in the meantime, Richard had founded the Architects and Engineers for 911Truth that we are currently operating within. And the organization since then has grown and involved literally thousands of people. More than 3,500, 3,600 architects and engineers have since signed the petition calling for a new investigation. I think more than 30,000 lay persons have signed that petition. We presented it to our Congress people and to NIST, and we’ve made every attempt to get the engineering community to look at this event with new eyes is and we have met with a lot of resistance.</p>
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<p>So when I came on the board in 2017, I believe it was, I was asked if I would oversee an outreach to the engineering community is under Richard <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Gage]</strong></span> they had focused on the architectural community, and they had gone to the national conventions of the American Institute of Architects <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[AIA]</strong></span> for three years in a row and raised a proposition at the conventions calling for a new investigation and asking for the AIA to endorse that request. And the AIA refused! The vote in favor of that never got more than about ten or 11% of the attendees.</p>
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<p>So my impression of that was that the architects didn’t want to get out in front of the engineers. This was really not an architectural failure. Architects, of course, and engineers worked together to design and build structures of this nature. But architects, that’s not their bailiwick. They’re not going to go into the structural details of a collapse of this nature. And I could understand their reluctance to pre-empt the engineering community when it was really an engineering problem.</p>
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<p>So I proposed that we start a project called Project Due Diligence to take the information that we had put together our analysis of the NIST Reports and the FEMA report before it and take it out to the engineering community because it was clear that the leadership of our professional organizations did not want to have this discussion with their members. And that was made clear to us by their attitude when we approached them and said:</p>
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<p>That wasn’t happening.</p>
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<p>So we took on an approach of instead of going to the leadership, we decided to go to the membership at the grassroots level. And we focused on the American Society of Civil Engineers is because that organization is the big gorilla on the block in the profession. They’ve been around since 1857. They have an established reputation of looking out for the interest of our profession.</p>
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<p>And in fact, when I was in college, I joined their honor society, Kai Epsilon, because it was an organization that said that it was going to promote the ethical and professional interests of the profession.</p>
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<p>And I thought that was a good thing to do.</p>
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<p>Well, Tony Szamboti and I put together a PowerPoint based upon a lot of other information that had been collected by Richard and others before him. And we started taking that information out. Then I went, oh, I took the petition signers that, the petition that I had signed. We had the record of everyone that had signed that since is at that time there was something like 1,000 signatures there.</p>
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<p>And I went through there with the help of the staff, and we selected the civil and structural engineers that had signed. And I began calling them up, and asking them if they were interested in an effort to take this information that we had compiled out to the rank and file branches of the American Society of Civil Engineers <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[ASCE]</strong></span> all across the country, of which there are about 161 local branches.</p>
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<p>So I was successful in recruiting about 40 engineers that said that they would be glad to do that is they thought that that was an important thing to do is and they volunteered to learn the material and to make presentations in their area if the opportunity arose.</p>
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<p>So we got that information out to them. We had some training. We went through the information. We felt satisfied that it made sense. And we began reaching out in 2018 to the local chapters of ASCE.</p>
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<p>And what we found was that wherever we made these presentations, wherever we got accepted and then we went out and we made the presentations, we found that the engineers that were in attendance were 100% in agreement with us is that the NIST Reports did not meet our professional standards. They had a lot of anomalies, a lot of omissions, a lot of problems with those reports that we felt needed to be addressed. And we asked them if they felt the same way after we made our presentations is we always got 100% agreement.</p>
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<p>So in the course of the last four or five years, we’ve made that presentation to more than 1,000 engineers at the grassroots level, all across the country is everywhere from Florida to Alaska, to the New York area, to California, the Southwest, the Southeast, the Midwest. Everywhere we’ve gone, we’re getting 100% agreement from the rank and file that the issues that we’ve raised need to be addressed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[14:56]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-9"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The American Society of Civil Engineers [ASCE] Preventing Presentations to Its Members</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And yet we have come across extremely recalcitrant leadership that insists upon branding us as “<em>conspiracy theorists</em>” and whenever they can, preventing us from making any kind of presentations to their chapters. And that has happened. We’ve been accepted and then later rejected more than 30 times in the last four years. And we’ve managed to make 50 presentations, many of them to ASCE chapters, but also to the National Society of Professional Engineers and some other engineering organizations and some public presentations as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-10"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Project Due Diligence — A Coherent Explanation of What Went Wrong with the Gov Reports</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s what Project Due Diligence is all about. And the book that I’m putting together, this is not my information. This is information that’s been collected by all those volunteers and by all the researchers that went through the reports and came up with the anomalies that we were able to put together in a coherent strategy, a coherent explanation of what we thought went wrong with the reports.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s Project Due Diligence. That’s what the book is about. I’m not taking credit for it myself. This has been a huge effort over many years, and we now need to make a report to the profession and to the public that explains what the process has been, what our findings have been, what the reaction has been t11</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we’ve gone a little further and identified a lot of the engineers that were involved in the preparation of the NIST Reports, the FEMA reports, and all the periphery people, the contractors, the academics, all the people that had anything to do with this question. We have tried to identify them, and we call them persons of interest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because we believe that somewhere in that group of people are persons who were somehow coerced into making decisions that were not consistent with our professional standards, that justified the official narrative. And that narrative is what is currently being bolstered by our professional organizations. And there’s really no basis in reality for it. And we’re unable to get them to engage in a dialogue.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the book is our next step.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> I consider it sort of the ignition test for these professional organizations. And what do I mean by that? Let’s just going back to the nano-thermite evidence when they actually do ignition tests to actually get the thermitic reaction on the samples there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And sometimes you have to test what you’re up against just to see the reaction that they give you. For instance, when we did the, Span campaign, the defensive and ridiculous answers from politicians was outlined by somebody in a video saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’ve got a major problem here, because asking them these direct questions about this evidence brought this out of them and showed where the real problem is.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[18:26]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-12"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Professional Organizations Unable to Debunk AE911truth So They Try to Cancel It</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so through Project Due Diligence, by going to try to give these presentations, you’re basically testing these professional organizations. And I don’t know if that was the main motive when you started, but that’s what it’s turning into. And we’re seeing the resistance here. Because if there is nothing to what we’re saying, then they should be able to debunk it. They don’t debunk it. Or to have some kind of open dialogue. If they think it’s just a ridiculous conspiracy theory, what better opportunity is there to try to shoot holes in it, take it down and show it for what it is? But they won’t do that either because they can’t argue with that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So now their only recourse is to try to cancel presentations, get ahead of them, do the politicking behind the scenes. And I don’t want to get into too much details about some of the things that our engineers are going through, but there is a lot of pressure on these engineers to maintain the status quo, to not rock the boat and to not bring up this issue at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So kind of going into some of what I perceive going to be some of the themes in your upcoming book Roland, what skin does organizations like the ASCE and the other professional organizations have in this game? I mean, if the NIST Reports are wrong, seemingly they should want to be the heroes for taking the first step towards spotlighting that or at least acknowledging it and coming off as an unbiased and science-first organization. So why do you think there’s such a strong cover-up there?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-13"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The People That Committed This Crime Also Planned the Cover Up</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> It’s pretty clear that the evidence shows that the analyses that NIST has come up with are wrong. We’re 1000 to nothing on that case, from the rank and file! Unfortunately, the people that committed this crime also planned the cover-up. You can divide the crime into three sections; the planning, the execution and the cover-up. Clearly the people that committed the crime did not want to be held responsible for what they did.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-14"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Cover-Up Sequence</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the cover-up involves planning a false narrative, creating some patsies that are going to take the fall, and then monitoring that cover up over time, as time goes on, to make sure that nobody deviates from that narrative and anybody that does is going to be punished.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we saw on the day of the event there were multiple recordings and eyewitness reports of explosions in the buildings, overwhelmingly, some 40 plus. And almost every one of them, the talking head that was representing the interviews described and interviewed people that also described multiple explosions in the buildings.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you would think that the narrative that would follow from that naturally would be:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“We’re going to investigate what could have possibly caused those explosions in the building.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Instead, what you saw was a narrative that took over the very next day saying they:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Had already identified the 19 hijackers. They knew who they were, we had their faces, we had their names. And what must have caused the buildings to collapse was the airplane impacts and the fires that weakened the structure afterwards and that’s why the buildings collapsed.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that became the narrative from there on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-15"><span style="color: #ff0000;">NIST Reports, Didn’t Even Examine the Evidence of Explosives</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And even NIST, when they compiled their reports, didn’t even examine the evidence of explosives. And they admitted that! Very strange! Very strange! If you have all these eyewitness reports, you have buildings that were previously the target of a terrorist attacks using explosives, 1993. And the Fire Code called for in collapses of this type, you would always check for incendiaries and explosives. They ignored the Fire Code.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[22:57]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So these were all problems, problems for their narrative. And in order to get around that, they had devised a plan where they would work with the primary professional engineering organizations to provide the investigators and look into why the buildings collapsed with them. So FEMA took over the examination immediately upon the event, which is their job. They’re supposed to, they are the Federal Emergency Management Agency. So they go in whenever there’s an emergency. This was clearly an emergency that fell within their purview, and they went in. And they were supposed to be the ones that sort of made an initial assessment and then came up with a plan for whatever needed to be done to further the investigation, take whatever remedial action that was necessary.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-16"><span style="color: #ff0000;">From Sep 2021 to Oct 22 Most of the Evidence was Destroyed</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it took a year and a month, October the first, 2002, for Congress to act to pass a law that specifically designated the National Institute of Standards and Technology as the agency that was going to conduct those investigations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So in the intervening years, in the intervening months, from September of 2001 to October of 2002, most of the evidence was destroyed. They picked up all the steel debris. They destroyed it. They sent steel off to China for recycling. Nobody seemed to be able to stop them, even though there were many people on the scene that realized that they were destroying evidence that was going to be necessary in order to conduct a forensic examination of what had happened. But at any rate, NIST was designated as the agency to provide the investigations in October of 2002, and they took that responsibility up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-17"><span style="color: #ff0000;">NIST Shouldn’t Have Been the Organization to Investigate 911 Due to Conflict of Interest</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But there’s a lot of evidence that they shouldn’t have because they were not immune from the kind of pressures that was going to be brought on them to alter the events and save face for people that might have been responsible. Because the executive branch of the government was responsible for protecting us that day, and they failed to do so. And this is part of the Department of Commerce, which is also an executive arm of the government.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So essentially, you had a case where you were asking the executive branch of the government to examine the executive branch of the government, and the executive branch of the government was a party to the event.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[26:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the director of NIST should have declined that directive from Congress and cited a conflict of interest, which was actually in the law. He could have referred to the law that they had just passed and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“I can’t do this. We have a conflict of interest.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But they pursued it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they went out and hired subcontractors to do a lot of the work, do a lot of the analysis, gathering of the evidence, what was left, and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-18"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Professional Engineers Associations Involved in the Cover-Up</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that presents the problem that we’re faced with which is that the big mucky mucks in the professional engineers associations, primarily from ASCE and the Structural Engineers Association, were the ones that actually conducted the investigations and wrote many parts of the reports that NIST produced.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they have a vested interest. They are signatories to the original NIST Reports and it’s going to be difficult for them to admit that the reports are not consistent with the evidence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that was a bit of genius on the part of the people that planned the crime. They knew that they were going to have to plan the cover-up as well. And they did that by dragging in the luminaries of the engineering field, had them participate in the report and control the outcome of the reports by having people in strategic places that were able to pull the strings to make sure that the conclusions that they came to were not consistent with the evidence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now let me just be clear. I don’t believe that anybody in the engineering field, in any part of these organizations was a criminal that planned the crime. I think that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and they were somehow incentivized to make decisions in the process of those reports that weren’t consistent with the evidence. And I’m quite sure that there’s many of them that are aware of that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when you’re dealing with a criminal activity of this nature that plunged the whole world into World War it can be quite intimidating. And I can understand that. I have compassion for these people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-19"><span style="color: #ff0000;">We’ve Identified 23 Decisions in Those Reports That Are Not Consistent with the Evidence</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On the other hand, they are the ones that could possibly lead us to the perpetrators because somebody pulled their strings. Somebody told them:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“No, you’re not going to make that decision. You’re going to make this decision.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we’ve identified 23 decisions in the process of all three of those reports that are not consistent with the evidence and don’t make sense in the sense of the people that made them couldn’t have possibly believed that that was true, unless they were incompetent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I can’t believe that 23 separate decisions were made randomly all in favor of the alternative narrative that they had created, and all dismissive of the notion that explosives could have brought the buildings down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[29:17]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s where we are. It’s politics! Politics! Somebody within power had the ability to influence the leadership of our professional organizations in the engineering field, and we took the black eye! Because all three of those buildings came down due to what we call “<em>design loads</em>”. The two towers were designed to take a hit from a commercial airplane. And Building Seven, which supposedly collapsed according to their narrative due to normal office fires, had never occurred in the history of steel frame buildings.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So when you have a failure of that magnitude, of any magnitude really that where the structure fails under a design load, something that was designed to withstand, then you have a problem. Something is wrong with your theory! There’s something that you don’t understand. Why didn’t it hold up under the loads that you thought it would?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you have to investigate that. And that usually involves an investigative team and then issuing a report, having it peer reviewed by other organizations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there’s a debate that goes back and forth about the findings. And over time, you narrow down the field of possibilities, and you eventually come to the correct conclusion. And that’s the practice. That’s the engineering practice that’s been going on for hundreds, if not thousands of years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-20"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Investigative Process was Derailed by the Very Organizations Creating the Reports</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So in this case, that whole process was derailed by the very organizations that had been involved in creating the reports in the first place, at least at the top levels.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s a problem for us as engineers. We cannot allow that kind of misinformation to creep into the reality of our practice, because it will only spread like a cancer. And we’ll then begin really having problems with our designs and with our construction procedures because we have allowed ourselves to be conned by an investigation that’s not accurate, and a reliance on a theory of failure that doesn’t match the facts.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> That’s right. And once you start letting science get infiltrated, muddied, by politics, by just pre-designed stories that they wanted to cement in people’s heads early on, once you allow that to happen and you keep on redrawing that line, then it’s hard to stop it from happening again in the future. All science gets politicized, and then people start believing in something that has no scientific backing behind it whatsoever, because you’re already set down the precedent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Everything that happens in government and in our society is all based on precedent. You let people get away with one thing here, then they can get away with something else even bigger in the future. And there definitely was a decision at some point, sometime, to not look or take seriously the possibility that explosives were used in those towers. They were throwing it out right from day one.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[32:37]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-21"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Peter Jennings’ Strange Question About Building Seven</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In fact, I have a clip of Peter Jennings from ABC Nightly News the evening of September 11. This is after Building Seven had already come down. He brings on an engineer, and I think it’s somebody of some importance in the engineering community giving his initial thoughts on why the buildings possibly came down. And can’t remember who that was off the top of my head. But at one point, Peter Jennings speculates, and he says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Have we gotten a lock on why that third building come down there?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you can see sort of like a little bit of suspicion in his eyes. And he asks the question. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Do you think that possibly a structural engineer had some hand in the planning of this event?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is a really strange question to be asking after asking about World Trade Center Seven. So even at that moment, you could sort of tell that Peter Jennings mind was spinning a little bit, wondering how these buildings could have just come down from the airplane impact. And in the case of Building Seven, no airplane hitting it at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, of course, I never heard him mention anything else about that afterwards.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But they had to get ahead of this as quickly as possible. And I believe that at some point the word had to be put forth that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We are not going to consider the possibility that explosives were used. We’re going to dismiss them outright!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that is part of the cover-up, whether willing or unwilling!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s fascinating to see what happens sociologically, professionally, to contribute to cover-ups. Not everybody who participates in a cover up really sees the full picture of it or even knows that they’re in a cover-up, but that is all part of the cover-up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-22"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Book: Engineering the 911 Cover-Up &#8211; How the WTC Evidence was Kept Secret from the World</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And from my understanding, that’s what some of your book is going to be getting into.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now I just want to tell our audience the name of the book is; Engineering the 9/11 Cover-up-How the WTC Evidence was Kept Secret from the World. If you donate $35 to help us keep our operation going while we put this book together and do all the great stuff that PDD <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Project Due Diligence]</strong></span> is doing, you can get early access to the book. You get the chapters sent to your inbox every month, a nice little flip book format that we’ve got set up for this. You can send your commentary in. We certainly want to hear your suggestions and thoughts about it. And then, of course, there will be a final volume that goes out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Roland, what do you want the legacy of this book to be? What do you want people coming away with when they read it and taking forward into the future with regard to this issue?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> Well, that’s a good question. We feel strongly that our profession has been misrepresented, and we want to set the record straight. We may not have the political clout at this particular time to bring this information to the public in a way that has the kind of impact that it should have, because we don’t control the media and we don’t control the government agencies that were involved.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But we can publish our findings and make it available to the public and to other members of our profession so they at least understand that there were some of us that understood that there was a real problem here. And we made every effort to bring it to the attention of our fellow colleagues and to the public at large so that we could come to a realistic and accurate appraisal of why those buildings failed, causing such great loss of life and becoming the event that was used to project foreign policy into the future for the next decades.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-23"><span style="color: #ff0000;">911 is a Major Event &#8211; Hundreds of Thousands, Millions of People Died as a Result</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is a major event. This is not just a dam failure, or a road failure, or a minor failure, every failure is a failure. Some failures don’t cost anybody their life, and that’s a fortunate thing. There are other failures that do and cost maybe dozens of lives. But this failure resulted in a loss of something like 25, 27, 2,800 people in the buildings and in the planes. And resulted in further loss of life because of the changes in direction that the foreign policy of the United States took after that. Hundreds of thousands, millions of people, died as a result of those events.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we have a heavy burden!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as engineers, civil engineers and structural engineers, of course, we always have the foremost notion that the safety of the public is our number one priority. And in this case, the buildings came down under design loads that they were supposed to withstand. And we have to explain why! The government has issued reports.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And when we look at those reports, we say those reports fail. They have too many anomalies, too many omissions, too many things that are unexplained. And there’s an absolute refusal on the part of the authorities and the engineering profession leadership to have any discussion of this whatsoever!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s very suspicious. As you say, if they had an answer for the questions that we raised, believe me, they would come forth with those answers and they would say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“This is why you’re wrong.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s the process that we normally go through. But to be met with silence, that’s a telltale event right there. They don’t want to discuss it. Why not? Only because they don’t have an answer!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we already have our answer. We know they’re wrong. We know the reports are wrong. We know they were taken over by political forces that are outside of the field of engineering.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-24"><span style="color: #ff0000;">As Engineers, We Still Have Our Duty to Tell the Truth as We Understand It</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But as engineers, we still have our duty. And our duty is to tell the truth as we understand it to the best of our ability, for how those buildings fail. And that’s what we’re going to do. And we’re going to make the record for history. And we know that history is going to exonerate us at some point. Things will have progressed on to the point where this becomes a historical event. And those people that are responsible for the cover-up and the crime are long gone. Perhaps at that point the truth will be able to emerge.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:19]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But we don’t want to wait that long. We think that there are still people around that were involved in the crime, and we’re going to make every attempt to bring them to justice with what we can do, which is through a competent forensic examination of the evidence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s what we’re going to do. And we’re going to point out the people that were involved in those investigations, and hopefully somebody among them will have the courage to come forward and give us more information about how exactly these strings were pulled and these decisions were made.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> Right. And we’re also going to be sending this book to engineers when we can, because engineers, like anybody in a profession, if they’re really into what they do, they read about it, right? Just like doctors read medical journals or read about some new development, or a new disease coming out. They do it in their spare time, a lot of times.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Engineers will do the same thing. They read about topics related to their profession, and certainly this is related to their profession. And it’s almost a dark story of what happened here, what happened to try to perpetuate this official story, make people not even question it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-25"><span style="color: #ff0000;">They Try to Stop the Discussion from Happening at All!</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as Roland has pointed out, again, they don’t even want to have the discussion! They go out of their way to try to stop the discussion from happening at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, if we were just full of it and they were just putting out a wild conspiracy theory, they could easily dismiss that they could talk about it right out in the open.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The fact that they’re trying to cover it up shows that they know they don’t have a leg to stand on, but they have to still defend it in some kind of a way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what’s interesting is that there’s so many people over the years, and I’ve been doing this a long time. When I first started out, Debunkers would say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, you only got however many architects and engineers we had at the time, (maybe 1, 500 or so) how many architects and engineers are there in America and in the greater world, even?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Right? Well, number one, the only people that are doing the work of trying to educate engineers on this topic is AE911Truth!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I think we do a pretty good job for the resources that we have.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, you know, we’re not the ASE. We’re not these professional organizations with the millions of dollars and manpower and resources to be able to get the materials out there. So we have to do it one presentation at a time. Videos like this is how we do outreach.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[42:00]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-26"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Most Engineers Aren’t Even Aware That a Third Tower Fell</span></h3>
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<p>So we have to rely on our supporters to help us, too, and send that stuff out when they can. Send it to engineers that they know. Most engineers aren’t even aware that a third tower fell on September 11!</p>
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<p>Now, even to this day, even after all of this controversy and all of this discussion, they don’t even have an opinion one way or the other about whether it was controlled demolition, because they don’t know that World Trade Center Seven exists!</p>
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<p>And to me, that is a huge failure of these professional organizations, which are supposed to be leading the way for the engineering community, educating engineers, and they don’t even talk about the worst, &#8230;</p>
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<p>Again, just put the whole issue of controlled demolition to the side for a moment. If you go with the official story, it’s the worst structural failure in modern history! A few random office players can bring down a steel frame high rise in 7 seconds. And most engineers don’t ever hear about it from the ASCE. They’re not studying it repeatedly over and over again to keep it from happening anymore. They just kind of put out a story and then let it die! Just didn’t want to talk about it anymore.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-27"><span style="color: #ff0000;">ASCE Doesn’t Want Any Discussion of WTC Building 7</span></h3>
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<p>What’s your comment on that role? On the fact that they haven’t really done a good job of telling people about Building Seven and most engineers don’t know about it?</p>
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<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> I think they don’t want to discuss it because they don’t want to discuss it!</p>
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<p>In other words, they don’t want to bring it up. They don’t want people to be aware of it because it’s a very suspicious event. You’ve got a 47 story steel frame building that collapsed into its own footprint after some office fires in 7 seconds!</p>
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<p>I mean, that’s a remarkable event! In structural engineering history it’s a one off! It wasn’t hit by planes. It had some minor debris damage, a few fires, and then it collapsed 7 hours later!</p>
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<p>So it’s not the kind of event that they want to discuss because first of all, it piques the curiosity just to begin with, once you understand the ramifications of the event. This is something that engineers should be all over! They should be all over this event! They want to understand it in minute detail.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-28"><span style="color: #ff0000;">NIST &#8211; for the First and Only Time in History a Steel-Framed High-Rise was Destroyed by Routine Fire!</span></h3>
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<p>Instead, the story that we were given by NIST was that these routine office fires for the first and only time in history, with no other significant event, caused the collapse of a high rise steel frame building. Well, we build buildings out of steel to the high rise capacity because we don’t want them to collapse when they catch fire! That’s why we do that!</p>
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<p>Now, here you have an event where the fires brought the building down in 7 seconds. Had there been anybody in the building, they, of course, would have perished. But they had evacuated the building at the time when the first two towers were hit.</p>
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<p>And then some very suspicious events occurred. They said that there was no water to fight the fires. Well, that’s been proven to be false. There was plenty water to fight the fires. They said that they knew the building was going to come down. How did they know that? No other building in similar circumstances had ever come down. So they quote some engineer that told the fire department that the building was going to fall down in a few hours. Gee, that was some remarkable information coming from an engineer, who still is anonymous to this day! We have not found out if that person really existed or not. Who was it?</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-29"><span style="color: #ff0000;">NIST Gave a Complicated Series of Rube-Goldberg Progression of Events Explanation for WTC-7</span></h3>
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<p>How did some engineer on the scene perceive that the building was about to collapse? When the explanation that NIST gave for actually why it collapsed was a complicated series of Rube-Goldberg progression of events where some long Beams were heated, pushed a girder off of its seat at a column, the floors collapsed, the column collapsed. It caused other columns to collapse, caused more columns to collapse, and then the whole thing came down at once. That is, frankly, unbelievable!</p>
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<p>And when you look at the particular mechanics, every one of those events can be disproven and could not have happened!</p>
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<p>So that’s why they don’t want to bring it up. That’s why they don’t want to discuss it. It’s easier, and the only answer they have is to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, these guys are conspiracy theories!”</span></h3>
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<p>And we’re practicing engineers. We’re people that represent more than 50,000 years of engineering experience! And these are not people that are going to lightly throw away their reputation by signing a petition that they know is not going to be met in a friendly manner from the establishment.</p>
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<p>These are people that know that when they sign that, they’re going to be castigated. They’re going to be punished, if possible. And many of them have. And we’re not funded by anybody. There’s nobody making money on this. We rely entirely on donations from our supporters to exist. Nobody’s getting rich off of this.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-30"><span style="color: #ff0000;">University of Alaska Said the NIST Report on WTC-7 Wasn’t Possible</span></h3>
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<p>We paid the University of Alaska at Fairbanks Structural Engineering Department something like $325,000 that we had to raise from our supporters to come up with a peer reviewed report of the Building Seven report that NIST produced. Couldn’t reproduce it. Said it wasn’t possible.</p>
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<p>And the only way that the building could come down like that was to remove eight floors of columns simultaneously all throughout the building. Which is a description of what happens in controlled demolition!</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-31"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Engineers Have Been Betrayed by Our Professional Leadership</span></h3>
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<p>So, yeah, we’ve been betrayed by our professional leadership. They have their reasons for doing. So they have connections with the federal government. They have contracts, they have prestigious positions. They have a lot to answer for.</p>
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<p>And unfortunately, I don’t think we can rely on them to come forward spontaneously. They haven’t done so in 21 years.</p>
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<p>So we’re going to have to make the record and hope that at some point in the future, sooner than later, we’re going to begin to get some answers about who was influenced, how they were influenced, and that trail can lead back up to the perpetrators.</p>
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<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> That’s right. You mentioned about how our supporters funded the World Trade Center Seven study out of the University of Alaska Fairbanks. I want someday, when this is acknowledged, when this is out there in the open and get the proper prosecutions, I’m not pessimistic. I think it’s going to happen. But I want those people who donated to that project to get some kind of tax break or whatever, because if you think about it, their tax money already went towards paying for the NIST Reports, and what they got in return was a bunch of garbage!</p>
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<p>So they had to pay again just to get an accurate report on the University of Alaska Fairbanks.</p>
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<p>And that’s another thing, this is a reputable engineering school, prestigious one. And now you’ve got this report out of there that completely contradicts what NIST puts out. And these professional associations just act like:</p>
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<p>But that’s a huge deal! Two different reports with two different conclusions. I mean, someone should sit down and rectify why they’re coming out with these two different conclusions, but they have no interest in doing this.</p>
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<p>So we have to do the work of the government for them! And what we are doing is we’re recreating the country. We’re creating a new culture here through AE911 Truth, through the Internet. And it’s not just with this issue, but other issues as well. We are undermining the system. Nobody takes the mainstream media seriously anymore. Nobody takes the politicians seriously anymore. I don’t think anybody even respects the people in the White House, regardless of what party they’re from or out there in Congress. They’re just sort of there! They’re just sort of like we’re all kids in a school and nobody likes the principal.</p>
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<p>So we’re just all sort of doing whatever we can get away with here, as long as it’s ethical and good. But we’re basically talking about these issues and bringing it out there on the Internet, and then they try to ban us or mess with the algorithms. And I don’t know how all that specifically works, but to keep messages like this out there and it’s not going to work. People are wising up and they know that there’s problems with things like September 11.</p>
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<p>And I also like how you mentioned too, about supposedly this engineer on the street that is seeing that Building Seven is going to come down. And I mean, even BBC is predicting it, 20 minutes before it happens.</p>
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<p>But it’s an unprecedented event and everybody’s evacuated from the building. And all of this is happening on the inside of the building. According to NIST, these Beams pushing the girder off it’s seat, is happening on the inside of the building. Nobody can see it yet. They’re predicting that this is all going to come crashing down. It doesn’t make sense on its face!</p>
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<p>So here we are over 20 years later Roland, we’ve got a lot of problems going on in this country. Insane division among the political parties. We got inflation has just gone crazy! It’s like $8 for a medium cup of ice cream at the Dairy Queen right now. That’s how I measure inflation.</p>
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<p>We’ve got I mean, the very first time I’ve ever been nervous about nuclear war breaking out in my entire lifetime. A lot of major issues going on, but here we are every week coming back to 9/11 Free Fall, talking about some buildings that came down back in 2001. I mean, what are we crazy or something? With all this stuff going on, why are we focusing on this still and writing books about it, not just doing the same show, but inventing new shows about it? Answer that question.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-32"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Importance of 911 Truth</span></h3>
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<p>Why do we need to keep on beating on this, even in spite of everything that is going on elsewhere in the world? Why does it all come back down to what happened to these buildings on 9/11? And how can that set us straight as a country?</p>
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<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> Why do we study history? Why is there an academic department in every university that attempts to explain what happened in the past? It’s important. Unless we understand what happened in the past, we can’t understand how we got to where we are today. If we have a faulty understanding of the past, our understanding of our present circumstances will be faulty as well.</p>
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<p>So that’s why we study history. The old saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.”</span></h3>
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<p>Is an old saying, because it’s true. You have to understand what happened, or you’re going to be making the same mistakes that were made in the past. Mistakes were made in the past. Mistakes are made today. How are they related? Unless we understand?</p>
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<p>Simply as professional engineers you go to school, you go to college, you go to university, they teach you subjects that are really nothing more than the compilation of all the studies and the experience of all the engineers that came before you in history. Why do they do that? Why not just start over fresh?</p>
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<p>Well, the reason why they do that is because there’s a lot of lessons that were learned there. And those lessons, a lot of them were painful, and they came out of failures. And in the effort to understand those failures, studies were made, and a greater understanding of what was happening came out of that study. And then things got better.</p>
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<p>The engineers that went forward from that point didn’t make those same mistakes anymore because they were trained. They knew better. That’s the process!</p>
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<p>If we think that steel frame buildings can be brought down by fires, alone, and we go forward with that knowledge and that understanding, we’re going to be doing things wrong. We don’t think that’s true! We think it flies in the face of all the reasons why engineers built steel frame buildings out of steel. If that isn’t true, we’ve got a real problem.</p>
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<p>And unfortunately, right now, our professional organizations are turning a blind eye to this contradiction. And we can’t allow that. As painful as it might be, as difficult as it might be to understand what really happened, we’ve got to face it! If we don’t face it, there’s more pain ahead.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-33"><span style="color: #ff0000;">When You Run Away and Hide Your Head in the Sand, Things Only Get Worse</span></h3>
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<p>And literally, 9/11 opened the 21st century, and it seems as if it’s a century that seems to be bound up in one catastrophe after the other. If it’s not financial, it’s political, it’s military, it’s technological. We have so many problems, we’ve got to deal with them. And we’re not going to deal with them by hiding from the truth, no matter how painful it might be, unfortunately. It would be nice if we could run away and stick our head in the sand and everything would just turn out fine. But that’s not the way things work. When you run away and hide your head in the sand, things only get worse.</p>
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<p>So that’s what we’re doing. That’s why we call it Project Due Diligence. We’re doing our due diligence. And we’re doing our best to bring that word to our professional colleagues and to the public at large. And hopefully we can come to some sort of an understanding that we have to reinvestigate this matter. It’s not a dead historical issue. It affects our future and it has affected our present.</p>
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<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> Well, we’re going to leave it there for now, but the book is called Engineering the 9/11 Cover-up: How the World Trade Center Evidence was Kept Secret from the World. We’ll be talking a lot about that in the next coming months and year. And of course, we’ll make that available when it’s finished and be sharing that far and wide. Roland, thank you for doing Project Due Diligence, taking up this project and of course, coming on 9/11 Free Fall today.</p>
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<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> It’s been my honor, Andy, to work with all of you and all the other engineers and the researchers that have collected this information and made this record, and we’re going to take it now and make a hard copy out of it so that we can use it going forward.</p>
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<h3 id="TT3-07"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> Youtube Comments</span></h3>
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<p>(Comments as of 9/12/2023 = 186)</p>
<p>@qwerty90615<br />
3 months ago<br />
Brave and ethical engineers, voicing reasonable concerns, at great personal risk.<br />
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<p>@jacobnichols4907<br />
3 months ago<br />
After 9/11 I trust no one. I was 21 on that day now I&#8217;m 42 with 2 kids 9 &amp;13. I home school and did a whole 2 week lesson on false flags.<br />
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<p>@raymondjames5035<br />
3 months ago<br />
The Hearst newspaper chain started the Spanish-American War to grow readership.<br />
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<p>@1DaTJo<br />
3 months ago<br />
Your kids are going to be such great adults!<br />
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<p>@12TwoHit12ThreeHit<br />
3 months ago<br />
Great comment, sir! I was sitting in a university Chemistry class when I got the news. I&#8217;m 43 now. One of the strangest &#8220;facts&#8221; that always stuck out to me (besides building 7 falling due to sporadic office fires) was an FBI agent finding one of the hijacker&#8217;s passports, undamaged, on the sidewalk. That, along with all the put options placed on the airlines, reeks of an inside job. I have zero faith in our Alphabet agencies now, and it&#8217;s sad I have to say that. Have a good one!<br />
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<p>@TheMountainGoat<br />
2 months ago<br />
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?<br />
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the building and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…<br />
1. Building 3 (Marriot Hotel) – 14 Survivors &#8211; It was a 22-story building – 90% of that building completely went away, all the way to ground level and the 10% of it that was still standing (about 3 floors of the stub left standing) is where these 14 people survived.<br />
2. Building 4 – 9 stories – 75% of it, also went away – all the way to ground level – Poof gone. There was virtually no rubble on this building, except for a small remnant of the building.<br />
3. Building 5 – 9 stories &#8211; Had cylindrical holes in it, 24 feet wide, that went all the way to ground level. Once again, virtually no falling debris ended up on top of this building.<br />
4. Building 6 – 8 stories &#8211; Had the middle of it scooped out, all the way to ground level as well as 13 cylindrical holes, 24 feet in diameter on the edges and close to the scooped-out centre of the building and all these holes went down to ground level. The centre hole in this building had MINIMAL RUBBLE inside it, it was virtually EMPTY!<br />
5. Building 7 – 47 stories or 4 and a half Titanic’s’ stacked on top of one another – Was frothing away the whole day until just the outer skin of the building was left and at 5:20pm SILENTLY fell into its own footprint, it left the seismic reading of just 0.6 on the Richter scale, equal to just 2 stories hitting the ground.<br />
6. The Twin Towers – 16 Survivors (“9/11 surfer” included) &#8211; 110 stories, equal to 10 Titanic’s in weight, stacked on top of one another. The survivors heard no loud explosions, no flashes of bright light, no molten steel raining on them, they did not go blind or deaf due to light flashes or explosions, they weren’t hit by falling debris &#8211; POOF they are gone into a HUGE DUST cloud. The seismic readings were that of a 20 and 16 story building hitting the ground respectively – Why was it so low?<br />
7. Bankers Trust Building – (Across the street from the WTC complex) Was heavily damaged and rebuilt, just to be completely taken apart 5 years later due some lingering aftereffects affecting the structure of the steel in the building. Show me how a building that was not hit by a plane, had no office fires, because something affects the steel in the building?<br />
Why has the 9/11 truther movement been “distracting” from all these points and why would the main talking heads, Richard Gage and AE911Truth, only be focussing on WTC 7 for the last 8 years, ignoring everything I’ve pointed out and never discuss the lack of seismic reading for WTC 7 hitting the ground? If you believe the official government narrative that it is all due to some jet fuel and office fires, then you have some serious problems in your thinking.<br />
Has the 9/11 “truther” movement forgotten about ALL 7 WTC buildings that had massive anomalies that don’t fit the NIST Report and the “9/11 truth” movement’s THEORIES regarding “controlled demolition”, squib explosives, nukes, or mini nukes?<br />
Can’t the 9/11 “truther” movement count past 3?<br />
8 x Buildings were affected, why only focus on those three for the last 14 years?<br />
Why have they not intensely investigated the observable evidence that was left at the crime scene that was ground zero?<br />
the 9/11 “truther” movement keep on asking for an “independent forensic study” of WHAT happened at the WTC complex, when such an “independent forensic study” has been done and the EVIDENCE was submitted as high up as the Supreme court of America, via a Qui-Tam case against NIST and the subcontractors who wrote the NIST Report, for SCIENCE FRAUD, way back in 2009!<br />
If this court case was heard and not illegally dismissed by the judge, the governmental subcontractors with links to advanced weaponry, who were tasked with the secured clean-up operations at ground zero and tasked with helping to write the FRAUDULENT NIST Report, these companies would have been DEPOSED back in 2009 already!<br />
14 years of theories by the “9/11 truth” movement have been regurgitated to a point of exhaustion and it is currently turning into a waste of time, as they aren’t bringing anything new to the table.<br />
Why does the 9/11 “truther” movement censor anyone who brings this up and why is the 9/11 “truther” movement keeping mum about this 2009 Qui-Tam case?<br />
Are we not searching for truth about WHAT happened to those buildings with a WTC prefix?<br />
Time for the 9/11 “truther” movement to stop focussing on just 3 buildings, when indeed there was MAJOR anomalies with 8 BUILDINGS!<br />
Why aren’t you talking about the 9/11 orphans, Buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6?<br />
Why not discuss the anomalous Banker’s Trust building, that was repaired, just to be dismantled a few years later due to the integrity of the steel that was waning? What does that?<br />
I suggest anyone wanting to investigate the 9/11 orphans, to have a look for the documentary “9/11 Alchemy – Facing Reality” and decide for yourself what the agenda of the 9/11 “truther” movement and really is. Also look for the documentary series “9/11 The Essential guide” which you can also find on this Odysee channel. &#8211; @911revisited:7</p>
<p>Antonio Garmsci<br />
3 weeks ago<br />
I became a Federal Marshal after that day!<br />
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<p>@growthandunderstanding<br />
3 weeks ago<br />
Bravo and awesome! You children are fortunate to have you as a parent!</p>
<p>@strongfoot2009<br />
3 months ago<br />
An excellent job folks: continue doing what is right.<br />
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<p>@StressMats<br />
3 months ago<br />
I was 8 years old when this happened and can remember the day, setting and reactions of the people I were around. I even remember my dad which is a clever engineer replaying the fall and telling me that it is impossible. He was inside one of the buildings earlier the same year.<br />
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<p>@garybryson1900<br />
3 months ago<br />
To keep people quiet you offer them money AND you threaten them. I&#8217;m sure that is what has happened.<br />
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<p>@747fa<br />
3 months ago<br />
I tend to think it is the fear factor that is very persuasive in regard to 9/11.<br />
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<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago<br />
Plus the Epstein blackmail machine.</p>
<p>@louislemire6691<br />
3 weeks ago<br />
My theory is that they weren&#8217;t in the loop. They did what the were told, no questions asked.</p>
<p>@garybryson1900<br />
3 weeks ago<br />
@louislemire6691 That&#8217;s probably true of some people.</p>
<p>@gregharrison3289<br />
3 months ago<br />
Everyone&#8217;s local obituaries silently speak of a horrible crime that&#8217;s been committed &amp; is still ongoing.<br />
Engineering leadership failure in part begot medical leadership failure.<br />
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<p>@irukandji2246<br />
3 months ago<br />
great to see your esteemed org still uploading videos!<br />
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<p>@EJ-74<br />
3 months ago<br />
Thanks for exposing the truth <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@-LightningRod-<br />
3 months ago<br />
We need Good LEADERS,&#8230;<br />
LEADERS like Roland Angle.<br />
Your attempt to shine light on an anomaly will illuminate much more than a simple failure of your organization&#8217;s Leadership shortcomings.<br />
I am grateful for Your efforts and the choice to share this information.<br />
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<p>@dietrichwecker942<br />
3 months ago<br />
Excellent work, thank you guys!<br />
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<p>@aprilholton1150<br />
2 months ago<br />
My heart goes out to everyone affected by this horror, which is a lot of people!! God bless you for your tenacity and efforts in getting the truth out. Some will never see it, some already know and some may wake up someday. One thing I know, God knows the truth and the ones responsible will face justice on judgement day! I wish we could see justice here in our lifetime but it is doubtful. God bless you all to overcome till the end<br />
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<p>@streetwisepioneers4470<br />
3 months ago<br />
You guys are phenomenal!<br />
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<p>@lionelfischer8240<br />
3 months ago<br />
Thank you from France. We also paid here for the liers through assurances fees. Billions of dollars stolen from so many companies&#8230;<br />
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<p>@h2opower<br />
3 months ago<br />
For me I am tired of those in high places getting away with murder and other high crimes and misdemeanors. If it were you or me behind these demolitions of the buildings we&#8217;d have a jail named after us by now. Because of these events over 1 million people died and even more have been affected by those events in a negative way. Since murder has no statute of limitations those responsible need to be brought to justice.<br />
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<p>@Frannie12<br />
3 months ago<br />
As you probably know, it didn&#8217;t start on that day. Great book (yes it&#8217;s long) called JFK and the Unspeakable by Douglass&#8230;..same patterns, a legacy within our institutions.<br />
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<p>@clinteranovic8075<br />
2 months ago<br />
There was no controlled demolition. That is a stupid idea. You know why it&#8217;s a stupid idea? Because it would be a stupid idea to do it, or even consider doing or even coming up with the idea of doing it. It&#8217;s a stupid idiotic idea that would never work, that could never be hidden or covered up, besides the fact that it would be a pointless idiotic idea to do it in the first place. Roland Angle and all these other people though don&#8217;t consider that. They think they don&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>@jonhjlundarnfred3248<br />
2 months ago (edited)<br />
​ @clinteranovic8075 Ok, then let&#8217;s consider it for a while. Let&#8217;s put ourselves in the shoes of someone or a group of individuals who would consider doing such a thing. Whether it&#8217;s a stupid idea (and hence not to be done) is proportionally related to what we estimate we are to gain from doing it, it&#8217;s overall implications, and our abilities to carry out the action. Strictly speaking whether an action is &#8220;worth&#8221; the risk depends on the outcome, and therefore indirectly our ability to control the outcome. So what might look completely idiotic from one perspective, may be very rational for us (in a cold calculated sense), it solely depends on our objectives and resources.<br />
A cascade of events in world history followed this event, and someone stood to benefit from these events. So for someone it might have been &#8220;worth&#8221; doing. In regards to the ability to cover something up, many people who believe it was a controlled demolition don&#8217;t think that the evidence is well covered, but in plein open sight. Our goal in such a case is not to cover it up completely, but to cover it up sufficiently. Today most people probably don&#8217;t think it was a controlled demolition, but again most people haven&#8217;t looked that deeply into it.<br />
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<p>@danhumphrey5755<br />
3 months ago<br />
Larry Fink, Larry Silverstein, Dick Cheney, the Bush crime family, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Rumsfeld, NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX&#8230;<br />
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<p>@thesoundsmith<br />
3 months ago<br />
A list of targets? Good job.</p>
<p>@jairoacosta2894<br />
3 months ago<br />
&#8220;The truth is the truth, even when it is too painful. If we not know the truth, to correct the error we are to repeat it..&#8221;<br />
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<p>@thesoundsmith<br />
3 months ago<br />
Well, i think THIS one is pretty safe from a repeat.</p>
<p>@martyalmberg9317<br />
3 months ago<br />
Great job! you guys are determined.<br />
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<p>@Turdfergusen382<br />
3 months ago<br />
Good luck with the new show. Thanks for the time Roland. Keep carrying the torch forward.<br />
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<p>@buckmaster7185<br />
3 months ago<br />
Here is another fact that y&#8217;all do not report about, which is both a mitigation against the official pretext and motive. Most girders were fireproofed by asbestos and the cost to remediate was prohibitive. Instead, they made $Billions from insurance and let the citizens of New York suffer with chronic, if not ultimately fatal mesothelioma.<br />
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<p>@CinemaStudies1<br />
3 months ago<br />
I&#8217;m glad Roland is at the helm now &#8230; a brilliant guy.<br />
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<p>@raymondjames5035<br />
3 months ago<br />
In Sept 2016 Lloyd&#8217;s of London filed suit against the Saudi royal family for the planes lost in 9/11. It was quickly settled so the evidence was never exposed.<br />
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<p>@davepowell7168<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
15 years &#8216;quickly&#8217;..<br />
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<p>@waynedaves5089<br />
3 months ago<br />
Yes, that&#8217;s the point. We have to investigate who said the building was coming down? Great work as always. naming names is a must<br />
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<p>@tdc8795<br />
3 months ago<br />
How many building codes changed due to the 9/11 event? Aren&#8217;t all steel framed buildings now at risk for total collapse because of fire?<br />
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<p>@thesoundsmith<br />
3 months ago<br />
If NIST were correct&#8230;<br />
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<p>@russellherdson5763<br />
1 month ago<br />
Roland is the right man for this job. Respect.</p>
<p>@ShillDozer<br />
3 months ago<br />
&#8220;We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.&#8221;<br />
Maurice Samuel<br />
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<p>@TNG_Klingons<br />
3 months ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@FreeCorps1984<br />
3 months ago<br />
Recently watched Seven and this is a great follow up. Gonna try to pass it along<br />
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<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
A discussion has started in the comments that perhaps Andy and Roland would like to give their views<br />
on.<br />
This 90 second video shows the collapse zone in wtc2 and illustrates the point in question:<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="WTC2 Collapse -- Gary Pollard (Enhanced Raw Copy from NIST)" width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ULdiD6gYZO0?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
The question is, can we really expect that the falling section of the buildings would neatly align with the standing section, so that core columns would land back on core columns, and wall panels land on wall panels?<br />
Or is the possibility that core columns and wall panels would be pushed sideways, while cross bracing structures would be loaded vertically rather than horizontally?<br />
All comments welcome</p>
<p>@PuffensPuffens<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
YES! This must be the Crime of the Century! &#8220;Pull it down&#8221; -Larry S<br />
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<p>@chineechik<br />
3 months ago<br />
One of the better videos produced<br />
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<p>@mikeklassic78<br />
3 months ago<br />
Funny I was just talking this with a coworker&#8230;.they said &#8221; oh that was a long time ago&#8221;&#8230;an folks wonder why were currently goin to hell in a hand basket!<br />
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<p>@psikeyhackr6914<br />
3 months ago<br />
I searched the NCSTAR1 report for &#8216;concrete&#8217;. It appeared more than 3,000 times though less than 4,000. I read every paragraph using concrete. The NIST never specifies the total amount of concrete in the towers though sources before 9/11 say 425,000 cubic yards for both towers.<br />
Those previous sources report 200,000 tons of steel with which the NIST agrees. So why is there agreement on the steel but not the concrete? That concrete would have to affect the collapse time if it was just mass impacting mass because of the conservation of momentum.<br />
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<p>@qwerty90615<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
The pulverization of the concrete, reportedly extreme in its totality, represents a quantity of energy consumed during the destruction. How does this compare to the officially recognized potential energy of the purely gravity-driven destruction? That potential energy is the integral of mgh. Both of these quantities it appears are easily determined within a margin of error.<br />
I pity the present engineering professors who must face inquiring young minds, and dare not speak truth.</p>
<p>@Interdiction<br />
3 months ago<br />
@qwerty90615 I have ZERO pity for anyone who does not tell the truth<br />
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<p>@qwerty90615<br />
3 months ago<br />
@Interdiction Truth absolutists tend toward self-deceit. This is an observation confirmed in many aspects of human activity. An engineering professor who did what Professor Hulsey was able to do is extremely rare. I deeply admire him.<br />
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<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
3 months ago<br />
Steel Can&#8217;t Change Its Role<br />
The steel components in a building are there to make up the support that prevents collapse, but here NIST tells us that the steel changed its role from preventing a collapse to one of abetting a collapse. NIST is crazy.<br />
NIST FAQ 31 Answer:-<br />
&#8221; Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.&#8221;<br />
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<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
2 months ago<br />
@clinteranovic8075 When your head goes upward and hits the steel column that is standing still in mid air, it will kill you. When 95 floors with its massive inertia goes upward into the upper 15 floors of much less inertia, who wins? NIST wants you to believe that the inertia from above took the inertia from below to use as its own. LOL https://youtu.be/MxE8N5IAFWg</p>
<p>@TheMountainGoat<br />
2 months ago<br />
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?<br />
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the building and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…<br />
1. Building 3 (Marriot Hotel) – 14 Survivors &#8211; It was a 22-story building – 90% of that building completely went away, all the way to ground level and the 10% of it that was still standing (about 3 floors of the stub left standing) is where these 14 people survived.<br />
2. Building 4 – 9 stories – 75% of it, also went away – all the way to ground level – Poof gone. There was virtually no rubble on this building, except for a small remnant of the building.<br />
3. Building 5 – 9 stories &#8211; Had cylindrical holes in it, 24 feet wide, that went all the way to ground level. Once again, virtually no falling debris ended up on top of this building.<br />
4. Building 6 – 8 stories &#8211; Had the middle of it scooped out, all the way to ground level as well as 13 cylindrical holes, 24 feet in diameter on the edges and close to the scooped-out centre of the building and all these holes went down to ground level. The centre hole in this building had MINIMAL RUBBLE inside it, it was virtually EMPTY!<br />
5. Building 7 – 47 stories or 4 and a half Titanic’s’ stacked on top of one another – Was frothing away the whole day until just the outer skin of the building was left and at 5:20pm SILENTLY fell into its own footprint, it left the seismic reading of just 0.6 on the Richter scale, equal to just 2 stories hitting the ground.<br />
6. The Twin Towers – 16 Survivors (“9/11 surfer” included) &#8211; 110 stories, equal to 10 Titanic’s in weight, stacked on top of one another. The survivors heard no loud explosions, no flashes of bright light, no molten steel raining on them, they did not go blind or deaf due to light flashes or explosions, they weren’t hit by falling debris &#8211; POOF they are gone into a HUGE DUST cloud. The seismic readings were that of a 20 and 16 story building hitting the ground respectively – Why was it so low?<br />
7. Bankers Trust Building – (Across the street from the WTC complex) Was heavily damaged and rebuilt, just to be completely taken apart 5 years later due some lingering aftereffects affecting the structure of the steel in the building. Show me how a building that was not hit by a plane, had no office fires, because something affects the steel in the building?<br />
Why has the 9/11 truther movement been “distracting” from all these points and why would the main talking heads, Richard Gage and AE911Truth, only be focussing on WTC 7 for the last 8 years, ignoring everything I’ve pointed out and never discuss the lack of seismic reading for WTC 7 hitting the ground? If you believe the official government narrative that it is all due to some jet fuel and office fires, then you have some serious problems in your thinking.<br />
Has the 9/11 “truther” movement forgotten about ALL 7 WTC buildings that had massive anomalies that don’t fit the NIST Report and the “9/11 truth” movement’s THEORIES regarding “controlled demolition”, squib explosives, nukes, or mini nukes?<br />
Can’t the 9/11 “truther” movement count past 3?<br />
8 x Buildings were affected, why only focus on those three for the last 14 years?<br />
Why have they not intensely investigated the observable evidence that was left at the crime scene that was ground zero?<br />
the 9/11 “truther” movement keep on asking for an “independent forensic study” of WHAT happened at the WTC complex, when such an “independent forensic study” has been done and the EVIDENCE was submitted as high up as the Supreme court of America, via a Qui-Tam case against NIST and the subcontractors who wrote the NIST Report, for SCIENCE FRAUD, way back in 2009!<br />
If this court case was heard and not illegally dismissed by the judge, the governmental subcontractors with links to advanced weaponry, who were tasked with the secured clean-up operations at ground zero and tasked with helping to write the FRAUDULENT NIST Report, these companies would have been DEPOSED back in 2009 already!<br />
14 years of theories by the “9/11 truth” movement have been regurgitated to a point of exhaustion and it is currently turning into a waste of time, as they aren’t bringing anything new to the table.<br />
Why does the 9/11 “truther” movement censor anyone who brings this up and why is the 9/11 “truther” movement keeping mum about this 2009 Qui-Tam case?<br />
Are we not searching for truth about WHAT happened to those buildings with a WTC prefix?<br />
Time for the 9/11 “truther” movement to stop focussing on just 3 buildings, when indeed there was MAJOR anomalies with 8 BUILDINGS!<br />
Why aren’t you talking about the 9/11 orphans, Buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6?<br />
Why not discuss the anomalous Banker’s Trust building, that was repaired, just to be dismantled a few years later due to the integrity of the steel that was waning? What does that?<br />
I suggest anyone wanting to investigate the 9/11 orphans, to have a look for the documentary “9/11 Alchemy – Facing Reality” and decide for yourself what the agenda of the 9/11 “truther” movement and really is. Also look for the documentary series “9/11 The Essential guide” which you can also find on this Odysee channel. &#8211; @911revisited:7</p>
<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
2 months ago<br />
@TheMountainGoat The WTC buildings closest to the twin towers, WTC 3-4-5-6, were heavily damaged and were roaring infernos, but none suffered total collapse. The Deutsche Bank building suffered more damage than building 7 did since it was closer to the south tower than building 7 was to the north tower.</p>
<p>@Blue-qr7qe<br />
3 months ago<br />
Thank you, Mr. Angle &#8211;<br />
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<p>@sladwig4094<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
47 interior columns x 4 connections per column x 110 floors = 20,000 bolted and/or welded connections.<br />
5” deep concrete floors x 110 levels high can be visualized as a solid block of concrete 45 feet tall and almost as long and wide as a football field. Somehow this mass of concrete turned into dust before it hit the ground.<br />
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<p>@organboi<br />
3 months ago<br />
True. You can see it turning ans churning into dust before hitting the ground.</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
What percentage of it turned into dust before it hot the ground?</p>
<p>@LuigiTrapanese<br />
3 months ago<br />
Can we get Corbett on this show?<br />
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<p>@LuigiTrapanese<br />
3 months ago<br />
Also Mazzucco, the author of &#8220;9 11 new pearl harbor&#8221;<br />
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<p>@Frannie12<br />
3 months ago<br />
Interesting comment about precedent. Turning point was 11/22/63 in Dallas.<br />
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<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago<br />
We have had so many. When you study the history, you see it is a string of them one after another. They just keep doing them over and over.<br />
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<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
7. 43 mins Talking about building 7 Roland says ; &#8220;I don&#8217;t think they want to discus, because they don&#8217;t wish to discuss it.&#8221; A few minutes later he said that it is the kind of event that piques the curiosity. He then says this &#8220;Is something engineers should be all over.&#8221;<br />
Will you be presenting any videos about Building 5 and Building 6 in the future?<br />
Do these partial collapses pique your curiosity?<br />
Do AE9/11Truth believe the partial collapses were caused by fires or demolition explosion?</p>
<p>@jerryplenda381<br />
3 months ago<br />
Philip Zelikow managed the 911 commission information.<br />
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<p>@mikebyrd8278<br />
2 months ago<br />
So how did your supposed explosives cause the exterior walls to be pulled inward moments before the building collapsed??<br />
How did they put explosives exactly where the Jets hit???<br />
How did the explosives survive the impact of the Jets and the fire???</p>
<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
3 months ago<br />
Kissinger turned 100 today lucky Larry turns 92 in 3 days<br />
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<p>@TNG_Klingons<br />
3 months ago<br />
I suspect the towers were wired to <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4a5.png" alt="💥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> well before Larry&#8217;s purchase and insurance policy.<br />
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<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
3 months ago<br />
Andy and Roland, I think that you are well justified in expecting other organisations to be open and honest, and to expect them to be prepared to answer questions of a technical nature.<br />
The cost of this is of course that AE9/11Truth also take that approach.<br />
So for example (21m30s) you Roland raise the issue of witnesses reporting explosions, and of recordings of explosions.<br />
In return may I ask you to make a compilations of the recordings so we can judge for ourselves. I have watched many without hearing any explosions, the video from the Hudson river has good sound quality, so you might start with that one.<br />
Also will you explain why the survivors in stairwell B didn&#8217;t report any explosions despite apparently being in close proximity to the one listed as registering 2.3 on the Richter scale ?<br />
Also why the vast majority of those interviewed did not report hearing any explosions, or using language &#8216;indicative of hearing&#8217; explosions?<br />
With thanks,<br />
Simon<br />
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<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
3 months ago<br />
Steel Can&#8217;t Change Its Role<br />
The steel components in a building are there to make up the support that prevents collapse, but here NIST tells us that the steel changed its role from preventing a collapse to one of abetting a collapse. NIST is crazy.<br />
NIST FAQ 31 Answer:-<br />
&#8221; Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.&#8221;<br />
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<p>@noelleleger232<br />
3 months ago<br />
The term inertia comes from the Latin word iners meaning idle, referring to the amount of resistance an object has to a change in its velocity.<br />
The INERTIA of the top 14 floors, being constructed for obvious reasons out of the thinnest steel in the tower, then collapses onto the 96 floors below that are constructed out of heavier stronger thicker steel (like a pyramid from top to bottom if you will) and the lower 96 floors would therefore have a lot more INERTIA than the top 14 floors. The idea that NIST says the small INERTIA above kept getting larger while the large INERTIA below kept getting smaller, is just laughable.<br />
NIST WTC FAQ 31 &#8221; As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.&#8221;</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
3 months ago<br />
@noelleleger232 I don&#8217;t always believe what NIST have to say, but if the falling elements of the upper floors, break apart the material at the top of the towers, releasing those to fall, then the amount of material falling will increase. Do you agree?</p>
<p>@noelleleger232<br />
3 months ago<br />
@simonthorneycroft1339 I disagree. Anything falling has to meet resistance. The forces in those collisions will be equal, hammer hits nail &amp; nail removes energy from the hammer.<br />
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<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago<br />
@simonthorneycroft1339 My favorite video of 9/11 is a short clip where you can actually see the spires of broken columns turn into dust and evaporate. It is the most amazing thing ever. Evaporating steel. Wow, I wonder how that happened. It was not glowing, just turning into dust. When a tower of dominos falls, NONE of them are destroyed.</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
3 months ago<br />
@kindGSL I am aware of the footage and the claim that steel was turned to dust.<br />
I don&#8217;t think that the thermite and high explosive model espoused by AE9/11T agrees that this happened, it seems more of claim by those who believe in the directed energy weapon model. Is that your view of it?<br />
What do you think caused the steel to turn to dust?<br />
Also what kind of dust? Steel dust?<br />
Simon</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
3 months ago<br />
@kindGSL Maybe a couple of things to consider if you think that steel core columns were turned to dust:<br />
What was supporting the core columns just prior to them collapsing and why were the structures holding them up not affected by whatever was turning the columns you could see into dust?<br />
The dust created by the collapse was analysed – what did the analysis show in terms of steel dust?<br />
Has the mechanism used to turn the steel to dust subsequently (20 years later) been used in other industries or weapons systems?<br />
If a steel beam is covered in dust, and then falls along its own axis, will it leave a trail of dust in the air where the column was previously standing?<br />
If steel dust is as dense as steel, how long would it remain in the air?</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
@kindGSL Do you have an explanation as to how the steel core columns turned to dust, and what the dust was made of?</p>
<p>@nunyabisnis1448<br />
2 months ago<br />
Bobby Mcelveen ,Geoff Campbell, what happened to those guys ?<br />
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<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
@nunyabisnis1448 I don&#8217;t know, what did happen to them?</p>
<p>@alwagner9722<br />
2 months ago<br />
​ @simonthorneycroft1339 your analogy is comparing the wtc tower to a stack of dominoes?<br />
Let&#8217;s try this; you build a scaled down replica of North tower, say 20 ft. high.<br />
With every bit of the structure scaled down precisely. Then you cut off the top 15 floors above the so called damaged area. That top portion is then raised 10 ft in the air and dropped on top of the existing, undamaged part.<br />
You really think that top section is going to crush and pulverize the rest of the building?<br />
Keep in mind, the actual collapse didn&#8217;t have the benefit of the top portion lifting up above the tower. It just sat there, somehow gave out, crushing pulverizing the tower, according to NIST, &#8220;essentially at free fall.&#8221;<br />
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<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
@alwagner9722 An interesting question.<br />
Firstly, neither the North or South Towers collapsed essentially at Freefall according to David Chandler&#8217;s calculations, they fell at 66% of freefall.<br />
Putting that aside, let us take away the big drop you describe, and try this;<br />
Imagine from your model above that you build the model up to the 87th floor, then in a slightly random pattern build up sections of the next 5 floors with material that is half the strength it should be to mimic the floors weekend by the fires.<br />
Then with the upper section of the building do the same kind of thing with the structure upside down, so that when you turn it over the two sections more or less match up.<br />
Then you lift up the top section and turn it the right way up over the bottom section.<br />
You then lower this sections until it is almost touching the bottom section, and misalign the two sections very slightly to allow for the fact that the building as heated unevenly, the steel might have expanded, shrunk, twisted or folded when softened by the heat.<br />
Would that be a fair starting point for your experiment?</p>
<p>@alwagner9722<br />
2 months ago<br />
@simonthorneycroft1339 that was kind of a gobbledygook theoretical scenario.<br />
I was implying that even if you were to pick up the top section and drop it on top of the rest of the building, you or anyone else would see the logical scenario that it would be impossible to crush/ pulverize and turn the majority of the building and almost all of its office contents into a pyroclastic flow, like that of a volcano, see? Where&#8217;s the momentum/ forces / energy coming from, since it&#8217;s just a &#8220;progressive gravitational collapse&#8221;? I&#8217;m no expert but you appear to be in denial- or your cognitive dissonance is clouding your reality.<br />
As for rate of collapse goes, I&#8217;m just going by NIST&#8217;S own words. Though I do admire Chandler&#8217;s work, as far as the 9/11 truth movement goes, especially with WTC 7.</p>
<p>@TheMountainGoat<br />
2 months ago<br />
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?<br />
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the building and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…<br />
1. Building 3 (Marriot Hotel) – 14 Survivors &#8211; It was a 22-story building – 90% of that building completely went away, all the way to ground level and the 10% of it that was still standing (about 3 floors of the stub left standing) is where these 14 people survived.<br />
2. Building 4 – 9 stories – 75% of it, also went away – all the way to ground level – Poof gone. There was virtually no rubble on this building, except for a small remnant of the building.<br />
3. Building 5 – 9 stories &#8211; Had cylindrical holes in it, 24 feet wide, that went all the way to ground level. Once again, virtually no falling debris ended up on top of this building.<br />
4. Building 6 – 8 stories &#8211; Had the middle of it scooped out, all the way to ground level as well as 13 cylindrical holes, 24 feet in diameter on the edges and close to the scooped-out centre of the building and all these holes went down to ground level. The centre hole in this building had MINIMAL RUBBLE inside it, it was virtually EMPTY!<br />
5. Building 7 – 47 stories or 4 and a half Titanic’s’ stacked on top of one another – Was frothing away the whole day until just the outer skin of the building was left and at 5:20pm SILENTLY fell into its own footprint, it left the seismic reading of just 0.6 on the Richter scale, equal to just 2 stories hitting the ground.<br />
6. The Twin Towers – 16 Survivors (“9/11 surfer” included) &#8211; 110 stories, equal to 10 Titanic’s in weight, stacked on top of one another. The survivors heard no loud explosions, no flashes of bright light, no molten steel raining on them, they did not go blind or deaf due to light flashes or explosions, they weren’t hit by falling debris &#8211; POOF they are gone into a HUGE DUST cloud. The seismic readings were that of a 20 and 16 story building hitting the ground respectively – Why was it so low?<br />
7. Bankers Trust Building – (Across the street from the WTC complex) Was heavily damaged and rebuilt, just to be completely taken apart 5 years later due some lingering aftereffects affecting the structure of the steel in the building. Show me how a building that was not hit by a plane, had no office fires, because something affects the steel in the building?<br />
Why has the 9/11 truther movement been “distracting” from all these points and why would the main talking heads, Richard Gage and AE911Truth, only be focussing on WTC 7 for the last 8 years, ignoring everything I’ve pointed out and never discuss the lack of seismic reading for WTC 7 hitting the ground? If you believe the official government narrative that it is all due to some jet fuel and office fires, then you have some serious problems in your thinking.<br />
Has the 9/11 “truther” movement forgotten about ALL 7 WTC buildings that had massive anomalies that don’t fit the NIST Report and the “9/11 truth” movement’s THEORIES regarding “controlled demolition”, squib explosives, nukes, or mini nukes?<br />
Can’t the 9/11 “truther” movement count past 3?<br />
8 x Buildings were affected, why only focus on those three for the last 14 years?<br />
Why have they not intensely investigated the observable evidence that was left at the crime scene that was ground zero?<br />
the 9/11 “truther” movement keep on asking for an “independent forensic study” of WHAT happened at the WTC complex, when such an “independent forensic study” has been done and the EVIDENCE was submitted as high up as the Supreme court of America, via a Qui-Tam case against NIST and the subcontractors who wrote the NIST Report, for SCIENCE FRAUD, way back in 2009!<br />
If this court case was heard and not illegally dismissed by the judge, the governmental subcontractors with links to advanced weaponry, who were tasked with the secured clean-up operations at ground zero and tasked with helping to write the FRAUDULENT NIST Report, these companies would have been DEPOSED back in 2009 already!<br />
14 years of theories by the “9/11 truth” movement have been regurgitated to a point of exhaustion and it is currently turning into a waste of time, as they aren’t bringing anything new to the table.<br />
Why does the 9/11 “truther” movement censor anyone who brings this up and why is the 9/11 “truther” movement keeping mum about this 2009 Qui-Tam case?<br />
Are we not searching for truth about WHAT happened to those buildings with a WTC prefix?<br />
Time for the 9/11 “truther” movement to stop focussing on just 3 buildings, when indeed there was MAJOR anomalies with 8 BUILDINGS!<br />
Why aren’t you talking about the 9/11 orphans, Buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6?<br />
Why not discuss the anomalous Banker’s Trust building, that was repaired, just to be dismantled a few years later due to the integrity of the steel that was waning? What does that?<br />
I suggest anyone wanting to investigate the 9/11 orphans, to have a look for the documentary “9/11 Alchemy – Facing Reality” and decide for yourself what the agenda of the 9/11 “truther” movement and really is. Also look for the documentary series “9/11 The Essential guide” which you can also find on this Odysee channel. &#8211; @911revisited:7 &#8211; You are being fooled.</p>
<p>@russellhodin1382<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
@simonthorneycroft1339 , obviously the domino tower is not falling at anything resembling a free-fall rate, in contrast to Buildings 1, 2 and 7, which did so for a portion of their collapse, a physical impossibility and at odds with your physics explanation</p>
<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
NIST Oxymoron?<br />
As documented in Section 6.14.4 of NIST NCSTAR 1, these collapse times show&#8230;<br />
&#8221;Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance the building section above came down essentially in free fall*, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further *increasing the demand on the floors below.&#8221;<br />
Essentially in free fall = LESS DEMAND on the floors below. https://youtu.be/pwx12kwgOAM?t=338</p>
<p>@ClaudioMarty911<br />
3 months ago<br />
Thank you.<br />
4</p>
<p>@DorksterJr<br />
3 months ago<br />
C&#8217;mon, Morty, that was decades ago now. We&#8217;re on the same team. What&#8217;s good for the Rick is good for the Morty. Trust in the trickle.</p>
<p>@redroseofsummer2979<br />
3 months ago<br />
What date is the book being released ?</p>
<p>@jamesdunn1434<br />
3 months ago<br />
The Yinon Plan of 1982 , The Greater Israel Project and PNAC<br />
6</p>
<p>@johnbelden-br3hw<br />
3 months ago<br />
I saw Michael c Ruppert speak in grass valley ca and he was talking about Paul wellstones plane being brought down<br />
2</p>
<p>@miket8250<br />
3 months ago<br />
Covered? You mean committed. Where did the Gold go?<br />
3</p>
<p>@rezakarampour6286<br />
3 months ago<br />
&#8216; Solving 9-11 By Christopher Bollyn . &#8216;<br />
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<p>@chadthunderjock6520<br />
3 months ago<br />
Everyone should read that book. To my knowledge no one in the 911 truth movement has never acknowledged that book.<br />
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<p>@DWayne-fk9rp<br />
3 months ago<br />
Here&#8217;s a link to his audiobook, Solving 911.<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="Christopher Bollyn   Solving 9 11 Audiobook   Narrated by Christopher Bollyn" width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/C9ES7NvJskQ?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
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<p>@mtm4a<br />
3 months ago<br />
@rezakarampour6286 &#8211; There&#8217;s a handful of people who consistently and endlessly provide this bare title and name of author under most AE911Truth uploads, but they express no opinion themselves. Are they being paid to publicise a book&#8230; or is it perhaps a video?<br />
We already know that Christopher Bollyn provides helpful insight into the 9/11 story &#8211; his talks have been available on YouTube for years.<br />
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<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
@chadthunderjock6520 I do. I have seen him at 9/11 events in person. What there is is a competition about who is at fault for 9/11. Some people want to say Israel was involved and others refuse to accept that idea. I am one who thinks nukes were used, so pretty much no one is on my side of the argument.<br />
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<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago<br />
@mtm4a You already know about him, but for any new-by just trying to figure it out Christopher Bollyn is the absolutely BEST source to understand what happened, and not one you will ever find if no one tells you to look for him specifically.<br />
2</p>
<p>@christopheklinger3217<br />
3 months ago<br />
I saw recently on Youtube people from PNAC (Project for aNew American Century) having a video. Comments were not allowed.<br />
1</p>
<p>@FreeCorps1984<br />
3 months ago<br />
Lotta misinformation knocked down by Roland. Don&#8217;t need to have an engineering degree to understand that part of this. The movie Seven helps too<br />
1</p>
<p>@K4ReeL187<br />
3 months ago<br />
52:19 why focus on events from 20 years ago&#8230;<br />
people need to know the truth so they can proactively stop these type of events re-occurring<br />
4</p>
<p>@jophoenix3919<br />
2 months ago<br />
I AM ILL-EDUCATED IN THE ENGINEERING FIELD, BUT THAT SAID I CAN FELLOW ENGINEERS FACRS, I WATCHED THE BUILDING COLLAPSE AND KNEW IT LIKE A PALNED DEMOLITION. THE FACTS DO NOT COME CLOSE TO ADDING UP AS TO WHY THE EVIDENCE WAS NOT PRESERVED BUT SHIPPED TO CHINA?</p>
<p>@bettymobley763<br />
3 months ago<br />
Andy’s <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f634.png" alt="😴" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@CreigerMcGreger<br />
3 months ago<br />
Is the evidence there for people to see the thruth? Yes. Is the evidence coming from mostly engineers, firefighters and pilots? Yes.<br />
So why don&#8217;t people believe? Because they don&#8217;t want to.<br />
You have to deal with that first before you can show them the facts.<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago<br />
It is the same reason why people don&#8217;t want to believe people who claim to be sexually abused. Dealing with it is just too difficult.<br />
1</p>
<p>@CreigerMcGreger<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
@kindGSL good point. I think it&#8217;s important to realize. What we believe doesn&#8217;t always line up with the facts. But it&#8217;s what we can emotionally handle.</p>
<p>@nunyabisnis1448<br />
2 months ago<br />
cognitive dissonance , and its easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they&#8217;ve been fooled!</p>
<p>@JohnDoe-rp3mx<br />
10 days ago<br />
Please enhance your sound</p>
<p>@bubblegumKUSH<br />
3 months ago<br />
#ednacintron</p>
<p>@CreigerMcGreger<br />
3 months ago<br />
Can we please. Please. Get a new interviewer.? Andy steel might be a nice guy but he is not helping your cause by being the face of the 9/11 truth movement.<br />
1</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@CreigerMcGreger<br />
3 months ago<br />
It doesn&#8217;t matter how many facts you have. I can&#8217;t recommend these videos to anyone.</p>
<p>@geminijune5173<br />
2 months ago<br />
Remember the dancing Israelis</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@clinteranovic8075<br />
2 months ago<br />
Remember the dancing Palestinians&#8230;<br />
1</p>
<p>@raymondjames5035<br />
3 months ago<br />
The demolition crew was getting paid at the accounting office when the missile hit the Pentagon&#8230;. Lose ends.<br />
4</p>
<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@mancuniancandidatem<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
I think the &#8220;art students&#8221; who were living in the towers layed the explosives. They are even photographed in the towers in a room full of boxes that are labeled as fuse switches, of a type that are used in demolition.</p>
<p>Antonio Garmsci<br />
3 weeks ago<br />
You guys have NO idea how to organize!!!!</p>
<p>@TheMountainGoat<br />
2 months ago<br />
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?<br />
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the building and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…<br />
1. Building 3 (Marriot Hotel) – 14 Survivors &#8211; It was a 22-story building – 90% of that building completely went away, all the way to ground level and the 10% of it that was still standing (about 3 floors of the stub left standing) is where these 14 people survived.<br />
2. Building 4 – 9 stories – 75% of it, also went away – all the way to ground level – Poof gone. There was virtually no rubble on this building, except for a small remnant of the building.<br />
3. Building 5 – 9 stories &#8211; Had cylindrical holes in it, 24 feet wide, that went all the way to ground level. Once again, virtually no falling debris ended up on top of this building.<br />
4. Building 6 – 8 stories &#8211; Had the middle of it scooped out, all the way to ground level as well as 13 cylindrical holes, 24 feet in diameter on the edges and close to the scooped-out centre of the building and all these holes went down to ground level. The centre hole in this building had MINIMAL RUBBLE inside it, it was virtually EMPTY!<br />
5. Building 7 – 47 stories or 4 and a half Titanic’s’ stacked on top of one another – Was frothing away the whole day until just the outer skin of the building was left and at 5:20pm SILENTLY fell into its own footprint, it left the seismic reading of just 0.6 on the Richter scale, equal to just 2 stories hitting the ground.<br />
6. The Twin Towers – 16 Survivors (“9/11 surfer” included) &#8211; 110 stories, equal to 10 Titanic’s in weight, stacked on top of one another. The survivors heard no loud explosions, no flashes of bright light, no molten steel raining on them, they did not go blind or deaf due to light flashes or explosions, they weren’t hit by falling debris &#8211; POOF they are gone into a HUGE DUST cloud. The seismic readings were that of a 20 and 16 story building hitting the ground respectively – Why was it so low?<br />
7. Bankers Trust Building – (Across the street from the WTC complex) Was heavily damaged and rebuilt, just to be completely taken apart 5 years later due some lingering aftereffects affecting the structure of the steel in the building. Show me how a building that was not hit by a plane, had no office fires, because something affects the steel in the building?<br />
Why has the 9/11 truther movement been “distracting” from all these points and why would the main talking heads, Richard Gage and AE911Truth, only be focussing on WTC 7 for the last 8 years, ignoring everything I’ve pointed out and never discuss the lack of seismic reading for WTC 7 hitting the ground? If you believe the official government narrative that it is all due to some jet fuel and office fires, then you have some serious problems in your thinking.<br />
Has the 9/11 “truther” movement forgotten about ALL 7 WTC buildings that had massive anomalies that don’t fit the NIST Report and the “9/11 truth” movement’s THEORIES regarding “controlled demolition”, squib explosives, nukes, or mini nukes?<br />
Can’t the 9/11 “truther” movement count past 3?<br />
8 x Buildings were affected, why only focus on those three for the last 14 years?<br />
Why have they not intensely investigated the observable evidence that was left at the crime scene that was ground zero?<br />
the 9/11 “truther” movement keep on asking for an “independent forensic study” of WHAT happened at the WTC complex, when such an “independent forensic study” has been done and the EVIDENCE was submitted as high up as the Supreme court of America, via a Qui-Tam case against NIST and the subcontractors who wrote the NIST Report, for SCIENCE FRAUD, way back in 2009!<br />
If this court case was heard and not illegally dismissed by the judge, the governmental subcontractors with links to advanced weaponry, who were tasked with the secured clean-up operations at ground zero and tasked with helping to write the FRAUDULENT NIST Report, these companies would have been DEPOSED back in 2009 already!<br />
14 years of theories by the “9/11 truth” movement have been regurgitated to a point of exhaustion and it is currently turning into a waste of time, as they aren’t bringing anything new to the table.<br />
Why does the 9/11 “truther” movement censor anyone who brings this up and why is the 9/11 “truther” movement keeping mum about this 2009 Qui-Tam case?<br />
Are we not searching for truth about WHAT happened to those buildings with a WTC prefix?<br />
Time for the 9/11 “truther” movement to stop focussing on just 3 buildings, when indeed there was MAJOR anomalies with 8 BUILDINGS!<br />
Why aren’t you talking about the 9/11 orphans, Buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6?<br />
Why not discuss the anomalous Banker’s Trust building, that was repaired, just to be dismantled a few years later due to the integrity of the steel that was waning? What does that?<br />
I suggest anyone wanting to investigate the 9/11 orphans, to have a look for the documentary “9/11 Alchemy – Facing Reality” and decide for yourself what the agenda of the 9/11 “truther” movement and really is. Also look for the documentary series “9/11 The Essential guide” which you can also find on this Odysee channel. &#8211; @911revisited:7</p>
<p>@coolk3dat754<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
Direct energy of some sort<br />
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<p>@organboi<br />
3 months ago<br />
Agreed. This is no normal demolition. Nor thermite. Why was &#8220;smoke&#8221; pouring out of Building 7 on one entire side from top to bottom well before it demolished.</p>
<p>@mariol8735<br />
3 months ago<br />
#911TruthNow <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@mean7429<br />
3 months ago<br />
Thank you.<br />
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Bonnie Faulkner from &#8220;Guns and Butter&#8221; interviews (Dec, 2019) Christopher Bollyn, the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World&#8221; and his recent book, &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2020/02/02/guns-and-butter-interviews-christopher-bollyn-the-war-on-terror-dec-18-2019-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>Bonnie Faulkner</strong> from &#8220;<strong><em>Guns and Butter</em></strong>&#8221; interviews (Dec, 2019) <strong>Christopher Bollyn,</strong> the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;<em><strong>Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World</strong></em>&#8221; and his recent book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Christopher Bollyn&#8217;s work proves beyond any doubt that 9-11 was carried out by organized jewry through Israel and zionists within the US, to create their &#8220;<em>War on Terror</em>&#8220;, aka, &#8220;<strong><em>War OF Terror</em></strong>&#8220;, in order to justify the smashing of Arab countries, and others, per the <strong>Oded Yinon Plan</strong>, as part of a scheme to create a &#8220;<em>Greater Israel</em>&#8221; domination over the Middle East, as well as their larger New World Order agenda involving the further subjugation of all White countries.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Guest: Christopher Bollyn</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">The 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF); 9/11 declared ‘an act of war’; major military operations conducted in eight countries; General Wesley Clark reveals a ‘policy coup’; Oded Yinon Plan for the Middle East; official 9/11 narrative a deception; media treatment of 9/11; the 1979 Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism; the Jonathan Institute; the Lavone Affair; 9/11 predicted; Hollywood film producer and Mossad operative Arnon Milchan; predictive programming; theft of nuclear material; Robert Maxwell, Ptech and Promis; historical roots of 9/11 and the war on terror; creation of the foe in the war on terror; Ali Mohammad; origin of terrorist videos; 9/11 memorial; trillions spent on the war on terror; constitutional treason; foreign and domestic effects of the war on terror; who benefits from the war on terror, America’s longest war.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<strong>Bollyn:</strong> It’s enterprise software, that not only gives access to everything that’s going on in the network, in real-time, but it gives you surveillance and the ability to intervene cc to do something, to change something. And this would explain, for example, why the American military was unable to respond effectively to the hijackings on 9/11.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> I’m Bonnie Faulkner. Today on Guns and Butter, Christopher Bollyn. Today’s show: “<em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em>”.</p>
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<p>Christopher Bollyn is an independent researcher, investigative journalist, and author. He spent three years traveling extensively throughout Europe and the Middle East. He studied Egyptian, Biblical Hebrew, and Norwegian, at the University of Oslo. He is a graduate of the University of California in history, with an emphasis on Israel-Palestine.</p>
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<p>Along with research and writing, he has worked as an editor and translator. His travels and studies of German, Spanish, Norwegian, Swedish, Hebrew, and Arabic languages, have helped him analyze international politics and events.</p>
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<p>He is the author of “<em>Solving 9/11 — The Deception That Changed the World</em>”, “<em>Solving 9/11 — The Articles</em>”, and “<em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em>”. His newest book, out on September 11th, 2019, is “<em>Solving 9/11 — The Articles Vol II.</em></p>
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<p>Christopher Bollyn, welcome!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Thank you. It’s nice to be with you.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21048" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg" alt="" width="659" height="942" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg 659w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 659px) 100vw, 659px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You begin your book “<em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em>” with a quote from then President George White Bush, one week after the attacks of September 11th. Quote:</p>
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<p>Unquote. At the same time Congress passed the “<em>Authorization to Use Military Force</em>”. What does this authorization to use military force authorize the President to do?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well it’s an open-ended funding and authorization. Which allows the President to basically wage war against anybody he deems to have been involved in the terror attacks of 9/11, or to be harboring anybody who was involved in the terrorist attacks of 9/11. So it provides the money, and the political authorization, to wage war based on the President’s decision that that entity was involved in September 11.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. Anybody that he sees to have been in some way involved in the terror attacks of 9/11. And that could be also a country like Afghanistan, who they said was harboring the Al-Qaeda group that they said did 9/11. But this authorization has been abused since 2001, and under the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, under the guise of fighting the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, under that authorization, they’ve waged war in dozens of countries.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Now since the Constitution gives the right of declaring war, does this authorization take away that right from Congress? I mean, it basically hands it over to the President. It makes it his decision, isn’t that right?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. Yeah, it’s like an abdication of their responsibilities. That they have basically given him a rubber stamp that he can use to wage war wherever he sees fit. It’s his decision, and his decision alone, as to where he wants to wage war.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> What is the significance of the US President stating that the terror attacks of 9/11 were, quote:</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well that’s very important. They made that declaration already on the first day, on September 11th. That’s important, because it means that as an “<em>act of war</em>”, that the government will respond to it accordingly, using military force. And wage war against the people that they said did this, that committed this terrorist attack. And so the attack on the Pentagon was the one thing that allowed them to make that determination, because the Pentagon is, of course, an American military fortress. So, when you have a military attack on a military fortress it is a military, an act of war.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so using that that logic it precluded the need for there to be any criminal investigation to determine who was really behind 9/11. So, it gave them an easy way out for those people who wanted to wage war in the first place!</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Right. The ability to wage a war, because of these attacks, then negated the necessity to hold a criminal investigation, isn’t that what you’re saying?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! And then the authorization to use military force was passed a couple days after 9/11. So, based on that, George Bush was able to take the country to war less than a month after 9/11 happened, in Afghanistan, because everything was basically allowed. The authorization, the funding, and the logic.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You point out that the US has conducted major military operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Syria, and the Philippines. Has any evidence been presented that any of these countries were involved in the terror attacks of September 11th?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No! Not even has evidence been presented to indict Osama bin Laden, for example. I mean, it’s a famous story about the FBI did not put Osama bin Laden on the most-wanted list for his involvement in 9/11. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[He was listed wanted for other alleged crimes]</strong></span> Because they didn’t have evidence for that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So the entire “<em>War on Terror</em>” is a war that is being fought under false premises. And the authorization to use military force is being abused! And they’ve spent something like seven trillion dollars on this war! This “<em>War on Terror</em>” that began in October 2001, has now gone on for over 18 years. And it’s the longest and most expensive war in US history.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> General Wesley Clark in a presentation to the San Francisco Commonwealth Club, in 2007, said that there was a coup on 9/11, in the United States, “<em>a policy coup</em>”. What did General Clark mean by “<em>a policy coup</em>”?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, he said that:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he pointed out that there were, in this memo that he had discovered, he had learned about when he went to the Pentagon a week, or so after 9/11, there were seven countries on this memo that the United States military was prepared to overthrow in the next five years. And those countries were <strong>Iraq</strong>, <strong>Syria</strong>, <strong>Lebanon</strong>, <strong>Libya</strong>, <strong>Somalia</strong>, <strong>Sudan</strong>, and finishing off with <strong>Iran</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s basically been the to-do list for the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. And yeah, that’s what they’ve done. And he discovered, he heard this memo and he was shocked that, &#8230; He had been the former chief of military in Europe during the Afghanistan war. He had just finished his service in Europe, and he knows policy. He knows what he’s talking about. He was running for President at the time. And he knows that this was a “<em>policy coup</em>” where what they call the “<em>neo-cons</em>”, the zionist neocons, people like Wolfowitz, had had dictated this policy. And this was being followed by the Pentagon.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> How would you describe the Israeli “<em>Yinon Plan</em>” for the Middle East? Authored by Oded Yinon and translated in English by Israel Shahak. I believe this was written in 1982.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. It was published in 1982. Well in 1982, Oded Yinon — and he’s a strategist for the Likud Party — he was writing and serving under Ariel Sharon. He wrote this strategy for Israel in the 1980s. And it called for Israel to basically a wage war and to overthrow the Arab countries all across the region! All the Arab countries! And to break them up into ethnic statelets. Into, you know, along ethnic lines. It’s often called “<em>balkanization</em>”, and it resembles what was done to Yugoslavia.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So you take a large, secular, socialist, economy, if you will, and you break it up into small warring factions that don’t get along with each other. And this is exactly, &#8230; The Yinon Plan called for, on the Eastern Front, doing this first to Iraq and then Syria. Saying that Iraq was the main enemy, the largest, most formidable, enemy of Israel.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the thing is that this is exactly what’s happened under the United States occupation of both Iraq and Syria.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I saw in the news, just today, that Michael Pence is visiting Iraq, the Kurdish section of Iraq. So Iraq has been broken up into a Sunni section, a Shiite section, and a Kurdish section, in the north. And the same sort of thing is being done to Syria. And these were the first two targets for the Israeli plan known as the Yinon Plan.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> What are some of the drastic political and social changes that have been imposed on America and the world as a result of the 9/11 deception?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, it fundamentally changed the relationship between the citizen and the state. As you can see like in the United States when you go flying, traveling, you’re treated as a suspect, a terrorism suspect, even though you’re just a member of the traveling public. This can be on the trains, this could be on the planes. The way we’re treated when we go in through the security check.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And also there’s been a huge increase in the militarization of the police forces in America. This is partly due to the whole idea of preparing for, you know, the same sort of insurrection in the United States, as they have faced in Afghanistan and in Iraq. And also the fact that a lot of people that served in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the wars, have come back from the wars and gotten employed as police officers. So you have this whole militarization of America, the police. You see if everywhere you go. And that’s part of the, that’s the legacy of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> What exactly has the “<em>War on Terror</em>” brought us in terms of the rules of war, including torture. Now that never used to be allowed!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right, right! They don’t call it “<em>torture</em>”, they call it “<em>enhanced interrogation</em>”. But yes, the rules have all been rewritten. So that we now have torture, as you say, we had big camps, you know, in Iraq, like Camp Bucca where people were tortured and abused systematically. And this was done, because they said that:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so based on that, and the whole fear that they had imposed on the American public, people went along with it. They went along with this, thinking that these people that had done 9/11 were so evil, that anything would be, anything that could stop them, anything could hinder their evil plans, would be allowed. And like I said, America’s just become a very much a pro-war “<em>anything goes</em>” nation, after 9/11</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> How was the foe in the “<em>War on Terror</em>” created?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, that’s a very good question! You see the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is a very old doctrine. An Israeli doctrine, going back at least to the late 70s, when Menachem Begin — the arch terrorist of Israel history — when he became prime minister, he became prime minister in 70, 74, I think. His party came to leadership in 77. He was the Prime Minister then in 77.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Two years later he called a conference on “<em>international terrorism</em>” in Jerusalem, which was attended by something like 700 dignitaries from around the world. Owners of media, President George Bush’s father, George Herbert Walker Bush, who was running for President at a time. And they rolled out this doctrine in a three-day propaganda offensive in Jerusalem, called “<em>The Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism</em>”. In which they said that:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">At the time they blamed it all on Russia. That Russia was behind this terrorism. And they said that what has to happen is that the Western militaries have to engage, you know, the terrorists in the Middle East. And those nations that are protecting them.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so this was the doctrine. And this was the “<em>War on Terror</em>” doctrine, explained and laid out as the “<em>new doctrine</em>” for the West to follow. And what happened though, is that it didn’t go into effect immediately, because it required, of course, something like 9/11 to make the United States, you know, move it’s military operationally into the Middle East. So 9/11 was basically the spark plug, or the kick-start, that brought this “<em>War on Terror</em>” from 1979 into reality, into operation</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Of course, this “<em>Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism</em>” that took place in 1979, and was arranged by then Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin, was extremely important and seminal in this whole “<em>War on Terror</em>”. And as you’ve mentioned, George HW Bush was in attendance. And he was running for President then. On the same subject, what is the “<em>Jonathan Institute</em>” and what was its purpose?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. Well the entity that hosted the conference was the Jonathan Institute. Jonathan is the first name of Jonathan Netanyahu. This is Benjamin Netanyahu’s older brother, who reportedly died, was killed, in the Israeli operation in Entebbe, Uganda, when there was a hijack planes have been taken there. And the Israeli covert force known as “<em>Sayeret Matkal</em>” went in and were able to release the hostages. But in the process of this rescue operation, Jonathan Netanyahu was killed.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they named Institute after him. And so Menachem Begin was the organizer of the conference, he was the prime minister at the time. He was involved in Lebanon, you know, attacking Lebanon at the same time. And Benjamin Netanyahu, and his father, Benzion Netanyahu, were the conference hosts, if you will. They were the ones that organized it and got it arranged at their Institute. This isn’t an Institute that has any sort of address, physical address. It’s just an Institute. And it’s whole purpose was to promote the idea of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You mentioned this operation at Entebbe, in Uganda. Wasn’t that a false flag? I mean, was that an actual hijacking, or was that staged?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, that’s a good question, you know. I don’t have enough information about the Entebbe operation, or, you know, other operations from that time period. People say the same thing about the Munich Massacre from the Olympics in 1972, it was, I think.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, and looking back today with our understanding of how Israeli false flag operations work, there’s a lot of question marks about, you know, these earlier operations. If they were staged, or, &#8230; But the thing is, that it’s very likely, and it’s not unreasonable that people think like that, because Israel has been doing false flag operations for a long time! They’ve been doing false flag operations since they became a state, and even before.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the first false flag operation that that I know of the Israel did was in 1952, or 53. I think it’s called the Lavon Affair. And it was done in Egypt. And it was Israelis and some Egyptian jews, a cell, who were planting nitroglycerin bombs in British and American buildings, and libraries, and cultural centers, and theaters, and things like that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that was an operation that was discovered to be an Israeli false flag operation. It was meant to be blamed on the Islamic Brotherhood. But what happened is that the Egyptian police captured some of the agents, and they confessed.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> In the same year as the Jerusalem Conference, veteran Israeli intelligence chief, Isser Harel, made a prediction. What was his prediction?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes, Isser Harel was the founder of the Israeli Mossad. He’s like the first real chief of the Mossad, and former head of the Shin Bet, which is Israel’s internal intelligence, like the FBI. And he said, he made a prediction to an American zionist, he predicted that Arabs would attack the tallest building in New York City. And that they would do this, because this is a symbol, you know, American fertility.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And yeah, that they would attack the tallest building in New York City. And he made that prediction in 1979.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it was only reported after 9/11. It was reported by a guy named Michael Evans from Texas. He’s a jewish guy, who has a Christian evangelical operation called, “<em>Jerusalem Prayers</em>”, or something like that. But what he does is, he’s one of these Christian zionists who’s very pro-zionist. And he was very close with people like Menachem Begin, and Isser Harel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so at the same time that they had this conference Isser Harel was putting into his mind, into mister Michael Evans mind, the idea that, &#8230; Well, it’s called “<em>The Jerusalem Prayer Team</em>”, that’s what it’s called. That Arabs were targetting the United States of America, and they would target the tallest building in New York City.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I call this “<em>ideation</em>”. This is putting hints out there, putting the idea out there, through people like the evangelist Minister. They did the same thing in movie form, television shows. They put the idea out there that Arabs are targetting the tallest buildings in New York City. So when it happens, the public is a short way for them to understand that this is simply reality, imitating art! You know, that this has been predicted, and it’s understood. And:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, that’s what happened! Didn’t you see the movie?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[20:28]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Yes! Could you talk about Mossad operative, Arnon Milchan, and the Hollywood films he’s produced?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21022" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg" alt="" width="666" height="863" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg 666w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-232x300.jpg 232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 666px) 100vw, 666px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Arnon Milchan is right in the middle of this current case with Benjamin Netanyahu. Because he’s the Hollywood producer who was also a senior Israeli agent. He was an agent in an operation called “<em>Lakam</em>”, LAKAM.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[LAKAM is an acronym for Bureau of Scientific Relations, an Israeli intelligence agency that collected scientific and technical intelligence abroad.]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">And that is Israel’s top secret operation to get components for their nuclear program from the United States. And this guy was their number one agent.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he was at the same time he was a Hollywood film producer. He made “<em>Pretty Woman</em>”, “<em>JFK</em>”, “<em>Brazil</em>”, “<em>Fight Club</em>”, you know, lots of movies he’s made.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in his movies there’s often ideation of the 9/11 attacks. For example, there’s a movie he made called, &#8230; The first movie ever made was called “<em>The Medusa Touch</em>” in 1978. In which a passenger aircraft is flown into the Pan Am building. And that’s the climactic scene of the movie, I think. It’s one year before the conference</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Jerusalem Conference]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;">, and it’s very telling.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21037" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg" alt="" width="641" height="861" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg 641w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy-223x300.jpg 223w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 641px) 100vw, 641px" /></a></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">When you understand that, when you see that he, Arnon Milchan, was Israel’s top Israeli agent! He’s close friends with Ezra Weitzman, the Defense Minister of Israel at the time. He’s very close friends of Shimon Peres. Shimon Peres is the guy who brought him in. Shimon Peres is of course, the Godfather of the whole Israeli arsenal, nuclear arsenal. And this man, Arnon Milchan, his operation was to get what they needed for the nuclear arsenal.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he was caught red-handed! His operation was caught red-handed smuggling nuclear triggers, something like 800 of them, from the United States to Israel! And at that time his employee who was involved in this operation, was Benjamin Netanyahu.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, in the trial with Benjamin Netanyahu, the charges that are placed against Netanyahu, part of it is, because he was receiving bribes, or gifts, very expensive gifts from Arnon Milchan.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Now, what about the television pilot, “<em>The Lone Gunman</em>” that you write about in your book, was co-produced by Arnon Milchan and Rupert Murdoch.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well they had a television company together. They have, or they had, “<em>Regency Productions</em>”, I think it’s called. And they’re very close as well. Murdoch is very close to Arnon Milchan. Milchan was his landlord, or vice versa, but in any case they’re business partners as well. They’re co-owners of this TV production company.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in 2000, Murdoch’s company “<em>New Regency</em>” films I think it was called, they made this production called “<em>The Lone Gunman</em>”, in which something like the 9/11 attack, very similar, happens in the film. It’s only a half an hour film — it’s made for TV — in which a passenger aircraft is hijacked remotely using a kind of more sophisticated chip called “<em>Octium chip</em>”. And the plane is hijacked using the override, so that the pilots don’t even know it, because the plane is being flown on autopilot. And what happens is that the plane is flown, is being flown directly into the World Trade Center. And at the last minute the pilots are able to regain control and just narrowly miss avoid hitting the World Trade Center.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But this movie came out, and was aired on Fox TV, in March of 2001. Six months before 9/11 happened.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this is the thing what we see with Milchan, and Milchan-Murdoch films, is that the idea, the “<em>ideation</em>” of 9/11 is shown time, after time, after time. And the idea of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is another part of his films.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">In the movie Brazil, the futuristic film Brazil, it’s a state where, like the United States is today, where the state is waging a constant war against terrorism. And in doing so, it’s, you know, it’s imposing itself a great deal on its own people</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Yes, in the film Brazil, there are terrorist attacks and bombings just randomly! I remember a scene where some people are having an elegant dinner, and all of a sudden a bomb blows out the wall!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Mm hmm.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> But it’s just routine and the waiters rush in, and put up a screen between the diners and the blown out wall! And it’s all presented as if it’s just a day in the life!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:13]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. And if you remember that scene in the restaurant where the women are talking about the operations and the surgeries they can get, and the bomb goes off. Just before the bomb goes off, the woman, one of the young girls says, “<em>Salt?</em>”, and she raises a jar of salt to offer salt, and then the bomb goes off! That’s very interesting.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, as soon as the bomb goes off, the band brushes themselves off, and starts playing. And what song do they start playing? The Hava Nagila, the zionist national anthem! Hava Nagila!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Oh my god, I forgot about that detail!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Whose idea was that! And that’s just like Arnon Milchan making a joke out of the whole thing, you know. This movie was made in 1985, or 86, and it’s like it’s a very, very interesting choice of music.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Yeah, that’s very chilling! You’ve mentioned how Arnon Milchan was involved in the smuggling of nuclear triggers out of the United States to Israel. Could you talk about the theft of nuclear material and uranium from the United States by Israeli operatives? Who were they? And what was the timeframe in which these thefts were taking place?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, there was an operation, I think it was in the 70s, or early 80s, from Apollo Pennsylvania in which Isser Harel, his men, his main men, were then Zvi Malkin and Shalom</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Avraham]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Bendor and a very key player in this is a man named Rafi Eitan.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Rafi Eitan, this man, was the head of the LAKAM program at the time. He was the head of the operation to get the components for nuclear materials. And he sent these men, Shalom Bandor and Zvi Malkin. And Rafi Eitan himself was a member of this group. They went to Apollo Pennsylvania and arranged with this man who owned this company, New Mec, I think it’s called. The man’s name was Ben Shapiro. And he was American jew who was willing to help.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what happened is that after they visited the plant Apollo, and met with Mr Shapiro, the plutonium was then sent in special cartons to Israel by LA freighters. And this was the smuggling of plutonium to Israel for their nuclear weapons.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s interesting that this is discussed in the book about Robert Maxwell, “<em>Israel’s Superspy</em>”</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Robert Maxwell, Israel’s Superspy (2003) ]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">because, you know, Rafi Eitan played a big role in all of this stuff. And it also involved the theft of the PROMIS software.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Prosecutors Management Information System]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">That came a little bit later. That came in the 80s. But when Rafi Eitan was able to steal the PROMIS software — this is the prosecutors information management system — it allowed them to adapt the software for spying and sell to countries all around the world. Which gave the super user — the Israelis — access to everything that was going on in the networks that had bought the software.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Right. And you mentioned Robert Maxwell in connection to this stolen PROMIS software. And I believe in that book, isn’t he’s selling this software to other countries?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah! They used Maxwell as their main sales agent. And he sold it, you know, first places like Zimbabwe, and South Africa, and then to Jordan, and countries in the Middle East. And it got everywhere! It got to banks, and Swiss banks. And then they, this was the PROMIS, this was the modified PROMIS software.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they got the PROMIS software from the Department of Justice. And he was — Rafi Eitan — was travelling in the United States under an alias. I think was named David Orr, or something like that. Dr. David Orr. So, he was using the identity of an Israeli man — a real doctor in Jerusalem — and travelling under his name.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they got this software, and then they he adapted it. He brought it back to Israel and they adapted it for spying. So they put a microchip in there and they moved things around, so that this became an enterprise spyware. And this was in the 80s, this is like in 1984.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then 83, 84, and then they kept developing this, the capacity of, the capabilities of the software into something called “<em>pTech</em>”. And pTech was the software that was running on all the American military computers and the federal computers on 9/11. And this was again, the spy software that was developed by Israel. And that was being used to monitor what happened at the F AA on 9/11. And it’s part of, it’s a very important aspect of the computer crime with 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:09]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Right. And you pointed out to me something I hadn’t thought of but that “<em>pTech</em>” probably is a shortened form of PROMIS technology, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. It stands to reason, because it’s the same sort of software. It’s enterprise software that gives you not only access to everything that’s going on in the network in real time, but it gives you surveillance, and the ability to intervene, to do something, to change something.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this would explain, for example, why the American military was unable to respond effectively to the hijackings on 9/11, because planes were diverted, you know, communications were missed. So the attacks went on, unhindered.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> And I think we might also mention, with regard to Robert Maxwell, that he is, of course, the father of Ghilane Maxwell, who’s been in the news lately, with regard to the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right, right.! And in the Epstein scandal you see that one of the most conspicuous Israelis involved in that was Ehud Barak — the former head of Israeli military intelligence — was seen photographed coming in and out of the townhouse of Jeffrey Epstein. And he would stay at Jeffrey Epstein’s house, one of his houses, when he was in town.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So yeah, it’s an Israeli operation. You know, the Epstein thing was an Israeli operation. And it was used to control people of influence, politicians, and what-have-you. And if you look at the list of people who flew on the “<em>Lolita Express</em>”, or who stayed on Jeffrey Epstein’s island, it’s all the big shots. It’s all the top brass.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You write that when we examine the historical roots of the 9/11 atrocity and the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, we find more indications that 9/11 and the “<em>War on Terror</em>” both originate from the same source. What are some of the key events, beginning in 1977, that point to a common origin for both 9/11 and the “<em>War on Terror</em>”? Now, I know you’ve already mentioned a few of them, but what event occurred in 1977?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well that’s when the Likud Party came to power. As I said, that’s when <strong>Menachem Begin</strong> came to power. And Menachem Begin is a unabashed, notorious, terrorist. He was involved in the bombing of the <strong>King David Hotel</strong>, back in 1946. He was involved in the Deir Yassin massacre. You know, when they mastered an entire village near Jerusalem, to put the fear into the Palestinians.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20725" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg" alt="" width="719" height="574" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg 719w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin-300x239.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 719px) 100vw, 719px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So when this man came to power, &#8230; You know, as Dr. Einstein wrote in 1948, Einstein warned the American jews and the American community, that if Menachem Begin ever comes to power, if his party ever comes to power — it was known as “<em>Herut</em>” at that time — these are terrorists and they will do terrible things!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, you know, unfortunately the warnings of Albert Einstein were not heeded. But anybody who’s followed Israeli politics over the decades knows that the likes of Ariel Sharon, and Yitzhak Shamir, and Menachem Begin, these are people who came to power using terrorism! Terrorism is their modus operandi! So that when they came to power politically, in 1977, it would be no surprise, should be no surprise, that they immediately engaged in wars of aggression against Lebanon, for example. And they immediately began using terrorism.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20707" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg" alt="" width="673" height="940" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg 673w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman-215x300.jpg 215w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 673px) 100vw, 673px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s a book that came out “<em>Rise and Kill First</em>”, came out last year. And it’s written by an Israeli guy. It’s a discussion of, it’s a description of all of the, not all, but a lot of the Israeli assassinations over the years. And in this book they talk about, in 1979 Israeli military intelligence created a terrorist network in Lebanon, in which the Israelis themselves were putting car bombs, and donkey bombs, and truck bombs, which operated for four years! For four years, until 1983. And causing chaos and wars in Lebanon between various factions.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, of course, remember 1983, what happened to the American barracks in Beirut. It was blown up by a truck bomb that the Mossad knew all about. So that was the beginning of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as I said, that they had the conference in 1979, in which they laid out the doctrine that the West should engage, you know, Islamic terrorism across the region, because it’s a struggle of the West.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21057" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg" alt="" width="614" height="902" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg 614w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents-204x300.jpg 204w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 614px) 100vw, 614px" /></a></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:14]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then in 1982, again, the Oded Yinon Plan came out, which called for the balkanization of all the Arab states. Well, how is little Israel go to balkanize all the states? Well, in order to do that they obviously had to get the Western militaries in there to do the hard lifting that required, they needed it to be done, in places like Iraq and Syria. That’s exactly what’s happened!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so then, fast forward to, like, 9/11 happened. And that was as I said, the kick-start for the whole “<em>War on Terror</em>”! That Bibi Netanyahu had been pushing for decades!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If you remember, in the 80s Netanyahu came out with — after the first conference in Jerusalem — he came out with books about it. He came out with books in which he reprinted the speeches that were given, or the articles that were written about it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he promoted this “<em>War on Terror</em>”. And he wrote books like “<em>Fighting Terrorism</em>” and “<em>How the West Can Win</em>”</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Terrorism: How the West Can Win]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;">. And so he was pushing this, like, uphill all the way! And when I read those books about, you know how was this gonna happen, how does it come to fruition? Well 9/11 is how it happened!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20995" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg" alt="" width="618" height="604" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg 618w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote-300x293.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 618px) 100vw, 618px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So when 9/11 happened, they were able to kick-start the “<em>War on Terror</em>” that he’d been pushing for so long. So when he was asked by the New York Times on 9/11:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“What does this mean? What does what happened today mean for Israeli-American relations?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s very good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He blurted it out!:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s very good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He said</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[correcting himself]</strong></span>:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, it’s not very good, but it’ll bring sympathy for Israeli position.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Or something like that. So it’s like, you know, he couldn’t hold himself back! And then, all the interpretation that we got about the events of 9/11 came through, from him, and Ehud Barak.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20715" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png" alt="" width="480" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png 480w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC-300x225.png 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ehud Barack was in the BBC television studio in London shortly after the towers were struck. And he was calling for, &#8230; He blamed Osama bin Laden! He said that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Now is the time to start a concrete operational ‘War on Terror’.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s exactly what we got! And then as I said, then there was the memo in the Pentagon that was circulating at the highest levels, calling for the overthrow of seven countries in five years. And they took a little bit longer than five years, but that’s exactly what we’ve done. And now, of course, in the cross-hairs is Iran</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You address the question of which came first, the terror attacks of 9/11, or the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. How would you answer this question?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Which came first, 9/11, or the “<em>War on Terror</em>”?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well as I said, before 9/11 happened on September 11th 2001. But the “<em>War on Terror</em>” doctrine preceded it by, what, 22 years at least. So, it’s like, they laid out that the whole idea of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. They laid out the logic, they laid out the propaganda for it, before they achieved it. And in order to achieve it they had to get, of course, the United States military into the region. So that’s what 9/11 was all about.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as you saw, it was all done like on a greased slide. They had the authorization to use military force, they had declared it an “<em>act of war</em>”, they had the Pentagon attack. So it was a foregone conclusion that the United States military would respond. And it was all prepared in advance! It was all very carefully laid out, so that it was a given, it was a given, that after 9/11, United States would go into the Middle East and start waging war.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it started in Afghanistan and then they pushed for Iraq. And this is all part of the doctrine of the “<em>Project for a New American Century</em>”. That paper that came out one year before 9/11, in which they called for a complete change in the American military policy and foreign policy. They should become the policemen of the world, that the United States should should occupy Iraq — whether Saddam Hussein is on the throne, or not — simply, because it’s too important of a country to be left to its own.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this was all discussed in the lead-up to the election in 2000, when George Bush won. And it was, &#8230; They knew that if George Bush won, and with Ariel Sharon winning in Israel, that it was a pretty clear, you know, pretty clear that there would be a war coming out of this constellation of hard-line people.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s very similar to what happened in 1982 when you had Ronald Reagan and Menachem Begin in power. An ideologue like Reagan, and an ideologue like Bush, with a Likud politician like Ariel Sharon, you’re going to get conflict.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Who was Ali Mohammed, and what role did he play in creating the enemy to be fought in the “<em>War on Terror</em>”?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, Ali Mohammed was the first trainer for Osama bin Laden.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what happened is that when the, of course, when the Soviet, the Red Army conquered Afghanistan there was this Mujahideen force that was dislocated into Pakistan. Afghans who were fighting against the Red Army for Afghanistan. And what happened is the United States — this is part of the Charlie Wilson story — congressman Charlie Wilson from Texas, he and the Saudi Arabians, and the Pakistanis, agreed to put up the money.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what happened is that the Israelis under Ehud Barak — again — when Ehud Barak was head of military intelligence in 83, 84 and 85, I think it was, he began providing the weapons and the training for the Mujahideen, who were training in Pakistan, and then going back into Afghanistan and fighting.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so what he did is, he took the weapons off the battlefield from Lebanon in 82, and transferred them to Pakistan. And the Pakistani government was aware that this was being done by Israel. It was secret and everything, but if they allowed it to go on, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And one of the trainers who was training these Arabs, these Afghan Arabs they are called — people like Osama bin Laden — was a man called Ali Mohammed, who happens to be a Hebrew speaking agent, supposedly from Egypt, probably an Egyptian jew, or something. I don’t know. But he spoke Hebrew. And he learned Hebrew probably from being the trainer with the Israeli intelligence working in Pakistan. But this is the man who trained and set up all these operations that were done in the name of Osama bin Laden.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So he set up other operations as well, like the shooting in New York of Maher Kahana, and things like that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ali Mohammed then, was then finally arrested. And he had been trained in America, as well. He was then put in a federal penitentiary, a federal prison, and then he disappeared from the federal prison without a trace!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Kind of like what happened to Jeffrey Epstein.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> What has your research revealed about the origins of the terrorist videos?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well the terrorist videos, you know, they all have come to us from one source. And that source is SITE Intelligence Group. And recently there’s a couple more branches, derivatives of that group, but SITE Intelligence Group is a propaganda, &#8230; I call it a propaganda tool of the Israeli state.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s based in Maryland. Bethesda, Maryland. It’s run by an Iraqi jewish woman named Rita Katz. And these videos would be provided from her SITE Intelligence Group to the media, and the subscribers. And there was one of the videos back in, I know 2009, or something, about Osama bin Laden. And in that case she had sent this video, of a beheading, maybe it was a beheading video. She had sent this video out to several people in the administration, high up people in the government. And before it had been released</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[by ISIL]</strong></span>. <span style="color: #0000ff;">And she told them:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Don’t tell anybody had this video until it’s been released by the, &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">All Qaeda, or ISIL, whatever it was. But somehow it leaked. And so it became known that she had this video. This Israeli woman had this video and had released it to the media, before it had even been released by the people who were the terrorists!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So you have to say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well how did this woman have the video before it’s even been released by the Arab terrorists?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this is the thing, is that in order to keep the “<em>War on Terror</em>” going, and to steer this monster, they have to occasionally do things, or bring out information or, you know, “<em>interpret</em>” what’s going on in the Middle East for the Americans.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And just like 9/11, how 9/11 was “<em>interpreted</em>”, it was interpreted for the United States government, for the military, by Ehud Barak. It’s the same thing what Rita Katz and SITE intelligence is doing, they are interpreting the Middle East for us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20731" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters.jpg" alt="" width="702" height="914" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters.jpg 702w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters-230x300.jpg 230w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so what’s amazing is these groups like ISIS, and ISIL, and Al Qaeda, who can make all these flashy videos, and do all these things, are unable to actually reach the Western media themselves, directly. It always goes through this Israeli bottleneck, if you will.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s interesting that you asked about what General Wesley Clark said about this policy coup. And he had said that when this happened, when 9/11 happened, he said that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We did not have American understanding of it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">9/11, he’s talking about. And what he means to say is that, we didn’t, our understanding of 9/11 did not come from America, American sources, from American intelligence. It came to our understanding, it came from Israel. Israel interpreted 9/11 for us! And that’s the case all throughout the whole saga.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The whole deception of 9/11, you know, 9/11 was done in order to achieve a certain agenda. And that agenda was the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and the attacks the United States has done against the Arab states, makes no sense! It makes no sense for Osama bin Laden to do something like that. He didn’t do this big sophisticated attack, because he hates America liberties and freedoms!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It was done for a much more, much bigger reason.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that reason was to start the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is an Israeli construct. So that the sophistication of 9/11, and the end result of 9/11, strongly indicate that this is an Israeli, or a zionist operation, from A to Z!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And look at the actual memorial, the Ground Zero Memorial, in New York City. It was also designed and built by an Israeli! It was built by the former ambassador, Israeli ambassador’s son, Arad. Michael Arad.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Yes, with regard to the 9/11 memorial in New York City, I finally saw it a few years ago. And it’s very, very, dark! I was quite shocked by it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s, a lot of, &#8230; I believe the museum is actually underground. And the waterfalls, there are these waterfalls that go down into the ground. In the shape of the footprints of the Twin Towers. But it’s very, it’s black looking! And then there’s this bizarre, huge white, it looks like the skeleton of a dinosaur, or something! I mean, the wrong thing is really weird!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. And the guy that, &#8230; The architect who built it, the young fella, who was not hardly known, he’s a friend of Mayor Bloomberg. He’s also a very close friend of the Netanyahu family. He’s a friend, he’s a personal friend of Netanyahu’s son.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s like the entire, you know, operation from the planning, and preparation, setting up the prediction, the “<em>ideation</em>” of the actual event, then the foisting of the deception, foisting the false narrative on the American public and the world, and then the actual control of the legacy, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We’re talking about the memorial, you talk about the legacy, you’re talking about the place where, you know, school buses come every day. Dozens of school buses coming every day. And kids are taken off the bus and led through this place, and they’re basically taught the false narrative, they’re indoctrinated into the false narrative of what happened on 9/11! That 9/11 was done by these, you know, fanatical, Arab, Muslims.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s why we are where we are today in the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And see, that’s why this book, the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is so important, because I wrote, &#8230; It’s a very small book. It’s only about 160 pages long, 170 many pages, because it’s very important for the public to understand that the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is a big fraud!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the fraud of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is related to the deception we’ve been told about 9/11. Like this book is really meant for the reader who already understands that we’ve been deceived about 9/11, and who did it. And the “<em>War on Terror</em>” book explains why we have been deceived, and who’s behind the deception.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You write that the real radicals are, in fact, the traitors in the political, and media arenas, who have pushed the lies about 9/11, and the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, since September 2001, as opposed to those who do real research on these events</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Well, my chapter two of the book. It says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“9/11 truth is anything but radical.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that stands to reason. A radical is somebody who calls for, like radical change in a political situation, and that’s what we got. A conservative is a person who says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well let’s go slow, make incremental, small changes. Let’s not change everything overnight.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But what happened with 9/11, of course, is that before there was any investigation into what happened on 9/11, the United Sates was waging war in Afghanistan! And the authorization to wage, you know, the authorization to use military force we were talking about, was passed.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so this longest war in American history was started before there was even any investigation!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21054" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg" alt="" width="660" height="941" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg 660w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 660px) 100vw, 660px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when people call for a new investigation, they have to understand that there hasn’t been an investigation of 9/11! 9/11 remains an unsolved crime. Hence the title of my book “<em>Solving 9/11</em>”. It’s an unsolved crime in which the evidence was actually confiscated, and destroyed, rather than then analyzed.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So there’s been no criminal investigation, and there’s been no trial!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s a very, very bizarre thing! And it says a lot about the, &#8230; I don’t know how to say this, &#8230; It’s how America has gotten so hijacked by a small group of people who control the media! And they’ve hijacked our nation for decades now, into this “<em>War on Terror</em>”! And it’s a war against the American people.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[50:08]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s really important that they wake up and understand that if we want to preserve any kind of freedom in America, we have to understand how we’ve been duped into the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Have the multiple trillions of dollars spent to wage the global “<em>War on Terror</em>” been borrowed at interest?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well yeah! It’s all borrowed money! Trump said a couple months ago, a few months ago, he said that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s seven trillion dollars.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what have we gotten for it? Nothing! Nothing!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, we’ve got a lot worse than that! We’ve gotten a big debt! A seven trillion dollars, plus the interest on that. And that debt is just growing all the time. But the actual cost of the war, including that future debt payments, and treatment for the wounded vets, and what have you, is about seven trillion dollars. It’s an incredible amount of money!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so that’s why, you know, you look around America you see the homeless people, the situation with the infrastructure, the general demise of our nation. And you say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Couldn’t that money have been better spent, here at home, rather than waging mindless, senseless, wars against people who have nothing to do with 9/11, in distant countries?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> How is treason defined in the US Constitution? And how would treason apply to those who engaged in what the US government termed “<em>an act of war</em>”?”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21081" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="680" height="971" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg 680w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well, treason is, &#8230; Part of the treason argument is that by levying war against the United States government, by levying war against the American people, and the nation, &#8230; And anybody who supports that in any way — it says in the dictionary, about treason and the Constitution — is culpable of the same crime. So that would include people even in the media, who have willfully fed the deception.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You see it was an act of deception. It’s an ongoing, active, deception!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We have now for 18 years, this deception about 9/11 being presented in the media, whenever it’s discussed.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so there’s been no investigation by the media. The media has been complicit in this deception against American people. And that means that they are responsible also for the crime of treason, because they are supporting, they are aiding, they are aiding and abetting in helping those who levied war against United States of America!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> What effect have the 9/11 wars had on Syria?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well Syria is just the latest. I don’t know if it’s the latest, there might be more going on in other places, but Syria is the second one of those countries that Yinon Plan <strong>[Oded Yinon]</strong> called for an Eastern Front. It said, first take out Iraq, breakdown the central government, the military, and balkanize the country.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then the next country was Syria. In Syria, that’s what they’ve been doing.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in Syria, of course, they used these self-created terrorist groups called ISIS and ISIL. And there’s a whole host of them. And these are the people that McCain was seen going over to. Senator McCain was seen meeting with them! And one of the people is thought to be, that he’s meeting with, is Al-Baghdadi, the one who they said they killed a couple weeks ago.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But he’s meeting with these people, these terrorists who ran these militias, these gangs, that were waging war against the government of Syria. So again, the target is to take down the central government of Syria, remove the regime of Bashar Al-Assad — which was elected after all — and replacing it with a broken up country! With, you know, one ethnic group here, one there, one there, one there! And they’ve succeeded in doing that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what they’ve really succeeded in doing is, the United States is occupying the eastern third of the country from the Euphrates River to the east, and that’s where the oil is. And now Trump is saying that we’re gonna use this war on terrorism to secure, or to maintain, control over Syria’s oil. And he says we’re doing this to keep the oil away from ISIS, ISIL. I don’t know.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">One thing they’re trying to keep it away from, they’re definitely trying to keep it away from the Syrian government, because it’s the Syrian government who needs the oil, more than anybody.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Christopher Bollyn, thank you very much!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well thank you Bonnie. It’s been a pleasure.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[54:42]</strong></span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Adam Green who has the YouTube channel “Know More News” interviews well-known “conspiracy” author David Icke about his latest book “The Trigger”. In short, the 9/11 attack was a false flag carried out by Orgjew as part of its &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2019/09/20/adam-green-david-icke-explains-the-trigger-endgame-sep-16-2019-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Adam Green who has the YouTube channel “<em>Know More News</em>” interviews well-known “<em>conspiracy</em>” author David Icke about his latest book “<strong><em>The Trigger</em></strong>”.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">In short, the 9/11 attack was a false flag carried out by Orgjew as part of its long-running plan to create a One World Tyranny over humanity.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Icke’s take on Trump is spot on (around the 25:00 mark);</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>And for me Donald Trump was brought in for a number of reasons, here&#8217;s two of them. One he is owned by this cult! I’m not saying he&#8217;s an insider of it, I’m saying he&#8217;s owned by it, which is basically operated out of Israel.</em>”</span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Adam Green with David Icke<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Explains &#8220;The Trigger&#8221; &amp; Endgame<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Sep 16, 2019</span></h1>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Welcome ladies and gentlemen. Adam Green here with Know More News.org. It’s September 16, 2019. And today joining me a very special guest known as the “<em>Renegade</em>” the “<em>Dot Connector</em>”, undoubtedly one of the biggest names and legends in alternative media, Mr David Icke himself! Welcome David! Thanks for coming on.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Thanks Adam, real pleasure. You do some great work!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Thank you so much. That’s a huge honor to hear that coming from you. I am so happy to have you on! This is one of the first interviews that you’re doing for your brand new excellent book, “<em>The Trigger — the Lie that Changed the World, Who Really Did It and Why</em>”. I just finished a few days ago, despite having an advance copy. It’s a huge book, and I say one of the most important books ever written! I hope everybody runs out and gets it and shares the information with everyone they know.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Why don’t you start by telling us a little bit about why you wrote the book, and what people can expect to get out of it.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Well, I remember on September the 11th, 2001 being out walking in England. And someone told me what had happened. And immediately, obviously, I was away to see the news, to look at the detail. And immediately it struck me that there was something big-time not right about this.</p>
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<p>And by then I’d understood the major technique that is used to manipulate people to accept vast changes in society that they wouldn’t otherwise accept. And I gave it the name a long time ago now:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Problem, Reaction, Solution</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Create the “<em>Problem</em>” — get someone else to be blamed for it not you. Get the mainstream media — no problem — to tell the public version of the event the problem that you want people to believe.</p>
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<p>And you want at stage two the “<em>Reaction</em>” from the public of do something! This can’t go on! Something must be done you want the public in fear and outrage, so that they will be open to a solution.</p>
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<p>And the “<em>Solution</em>” to your manufactured problem which you blame someone else for, is then to change society in ways that you would never have got away with without the manufactured problem. Problem, reaction, solution!</p>
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<p>It’s played on us constantly all the time. Another name for it in the alternative media is, of course, “<em>false flag</em>”. So I had a massive question mark from day one and from that day I started researching and investigating the background. And it led to a book I published in September 2002 called “<em>Alice in Wonderland in the World Trade Center Disaster — Why the Official Story of 9/11 is a Monumental Lie</em>”. And obviously since then I’ve kept my eye on developments as the years have passed and I set out about just over a year ago to write an update to Alice in Wonderland, to bring it kind of up-to-date and within two weeks I thought:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>No no! We starting with a blank sheet of paper here!</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Because of the way that information was flowing and where it was taking me. And so I produced this book which is basically two books both of them fundamentally connected. The first half of the book demolishes the official story of 9/11. Which is you well know is not the hardest thing ever to do but most people don’t hear the information they only hear the mainstream version of it. So over the first half of the book with a hell of a lot I mean, masses of factual detail. The 9/11 official story is taken apart.</p>
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<p>And in the second half of the book I tell her an amazing story which eventually leads to who actually was behind it. And it wasn’t nineteen Islamic extremists hijackers it was some a network that not only was responsible for 9/11, but right up to present day is responsible for what’s happening in the world, or what’s happened since 9/11 like the wars in the Middle East that have been justified by the trigger of 9/11. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[05:01]</strong></span> that’s the reason for the name of the book, because 9/11 was a “<em>trigger</em>” that started a sequence of events that’s still going on.</p>
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<p>This same network is responsible for 5G and the emerging smart grid, to eventually connect the human mind the human brain to artificial intelligence. So artificial intelligence becomes the human mind. So you can see, well, you know, having read it, that the trigger is a book about 9/11. It has 9/11 as it’s theme, but it’s not only about 9/11. It’s about the whole massive connection from those that were behind the horrors of that day, the connection into current events, and events that have happened before and since.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah the first half of the book is, you know, kind of your normal 9/11 conspiracy stuff. It’s the second half that is really something special. It shows it covers a lot of Christopher Bollyn’s research into who was behind 9/11. And then more importantly I think you connect it to the whole “<em>anti-semitism industry</em>”, the Israeli tech dominance. The Sabbatean Frankist, 5G, the tech takeover of vaccines, the technocracy, the technological dictatorship that’s coming. Which you and I both agree they’re planning on running it from Jerusalem, from Beersheba. Your thoughts on some of that?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Well I mean, there’s a part of the book towards the end which has a section in one chapter, which I think is called in his own words. And this is basically Netanyahu talking a tech conferences and to AIPAC and in various other situations, where he’s basically telling you. I mean, you know, when you talk to people and you say:</p>
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<p>And you give them some facts, they invariably didn’t know that. And if they did they would see the world and world events in a completely different way. So the idea of the anti-semitism industry and the protection racket as I call it, is to stop that information getting to people so they can have that re-evaluation of the way they see the world and world events.</p>
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<p>And what we’ve had which is kept what is happening in Beersheba, this Israeli military tech complex, which is designed to be the center of, with other elements out of Israel, the center of this global smart grid. You know, people look at things today, I mean, almost everything has “<em>smart</em>” in front of it. And the reason for that is that everything smart, whether it’s technology, or whether it’s a system called “<em>smart</em>” is designed to be part of this smart grid. And a fundamental foundation of it is the so-called “<em>Internet of Things</em>” where all technologies are increasingly connected to the Internet. And he who controls the internet therefore controls those technologies.</p>
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<p>And as I’ve talked about in previous books and absolutely it fits into this one, what we’re talking about now. People in the what I would say is Israel controlled Silicon Valley, and when I say Israel I mean, the network and the cult the controls Israel, not every Israeli, or nothing like.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Many of them just busted are connected to Epstein even, Google.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Yes!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Elon Musk, right?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Yeah! I mean, they control Silicon Valley. And this protection racket therefore, given that the circulation and communication of information worldwide is dominated by the Internet and it’s dominated by near monopolistic corporations like Google, Google owned YouTube, Facebook, etc., if you control them, you fundamentally control the communication of information to vast numbers of the human race.</p>
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<p>And so we have a situation now where the same network is following an agenda ultimately to create a centralized global dictatorship! We’re going there so fast, but it’s also controlling the suppression of <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[10:00]</strong></span> information to expose what’s being done! So what you do, and controlling the exposure of what you do, is now increasingly controlled by the same people!</p>
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<p>And the protection racket mantra is “<em>anti-semitism</em>”. And one of the things I look at, absolutely central to what I’m talking about, is this new definition of “<em>anti-semitism</em>”. A definition, well first of all anti-semitism is a misnomer, because semitism relates to a language group in the Middle East. The overwhelming vast majority of which are Arabic languages. But just put that aside. Um the definition of anti-semitism should surely be as it should be for any cultural group, that is hatred of that group for being a member of that group! And obviously that’s insane and completely unsupportable! So on that level, I would be the first in line to say that that is outrageous and shouldn’t be happening.</p>
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<p>But that’s not what the new definition of anti-semitism is all about. It’s about expanding that to “<em>criticism of Israel</em>” and more. You know, I’ve been on this road a long time! 30 years now full-time since I started this journey of research and exposure, and I’ve seen it all! And I’ve seen the steps what I call the totalitarian tiptoe, step by step by step, more and more towards a tyrannical totalitarian world.</p>
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<p>And I’ve seen this constant expansion of the term “<em>anti-semitism</em>”ss and we’ve now reached the point as you will well know, where just talking about a “<em>global conspiracy</em>” without mentioning any one responsible for it, is now called anti-semitism! Because you are engaging in, the thing you hear all the time now. You never used to hear it before but now you hear it all the time. You are engaging in an “<em>anti-semitic trope</em>”! That’s the line!</p>
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<p>So if you’re saying there’s a global conspiracy, people have said that the global conspiracy is run by jewish people, therefore you’re talking about a global conspiracy, therefore you’re anti-semitic!</p>
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<p>And what you’re seeing all the time is this expansion and expansion, expansion of what is defined as anti-semitism. And it’s for one reason. To constantly expand the range of things that you can censor — in terms of exposure — in the name of “<em>anti-semitism</em>”. That’s why I call it a “<em>protection racket</em>”. It’s not a protection racket to protect jewish people from discrimination. And you can see that very clearly, because you look at any jewish people who criticize Israel. They get the treatment, the abuse, even more than non-jewish people do! Because it’s much easier to label non-jewish people anti-semitic, and say they’re only doing it for that. But it’s not that easy to do it to a jewish person. Although bizarrely they try!</p>
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<p>And when you’ve got like in this country in the opposition Labour Party, there’s been a real focus of this protection racket in the last few years. When you get a situation where, because of this expanded definition of anti-semitism, you have jewish people being thrown out of the labor party for anti-semitism, you know, you’re not looking at something that’s about protecting jewish people from discrimination! You’re looking at something that’s protecting a cabal from exposure!</p>
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<p>But just very quickly we’ve got a guy in this country called “<em>Chilton</em>”. I mentioned him in the book. He was born in Israel. He was conscripted into the Israeli Defense Forces. He stayed on for a while and acted as a in a PR role as I understand it from what he said. Showing foreign journalists around. And he fought in the war with Lebanon in 1982 and then he started to realize how Palestinians are treated.</p>
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<p>So he rebelled against that and he thought I’m getting out of here and he moved to Britain. And when he did — he’s a an academic at Oxford <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:02]</strong></span> University I think now. When he did he thought is there a political party that I can join that could be a vehicle for me to protest about the way Palestinians are treated in Israel, Palestine. And he joined the Labor Party.</p>
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<p>Well, because of the expanded definition of anti-semitism which has been adopted by the Labor Party and a backbone deleterious nature of the labor party hierarchy these days, he was expelled from the Labour Party for anti-semitism! So this is the nonsense, the extremes to which this is reached now.</p>
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<p>And like I say it’s nothing to do with protecting jewish people from discrimination. I’m all over for protecting anyone from discrimination. It’s about protecting this cabal from exposure. And this is why more and more and more people are self censoring and silencing themselves, because they are frightened of the consequences of saying what they know to be true.</p>
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<p>And I’ve always had this, Adam, this way of looking at the world which is that I am “<em>consciousness</em>” we are all consciousness. I’m having a brief sojourn of experience in this reality, which is only a narrow band of frequencies that we call the world. And therefore what happens to me in this threescore years and ten, or whatever you want to call it, is almost irrelevant. Just an experience. And so I’m not intimidated by consequences, because I don’t take them into account. I’m interested in what’s true and what isn’t true! And first of all I’m covering it, and then communicating it!</p>
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<p>I don’t think as you see having read the Trigger, a lot of people would have looked at that book if they were the writers of it, and said:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Oh dear what’s going to happen to me if I publish this.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>That process does not pass through my mind except out of interest how I would rather react to this. But in terms of not doing it, because of what are the consequences for me, doesn’t enter the equation! And that is a power! It’s a power, you have that power, and many other people — not enough — but other people have that power. The power that comes with not giving a damn what people think of you and what people do about you, or say about you!</p>
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<p>Your focus is “<em>what is true? Can I support that with facts? Yes. Okay!</em>” there you go! And this is something that the Cabal, the network, the protection racket, doesn’t know how to deal with. Because it’s currency of control is “<em>intimidation and fear of consequences</em>”. And what they’ll obviously try to do is demonize me and to shut me down.</p>
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<p>In fact, you know, my son’s just told me just before we started this interview that Facebook today has contacted him and said that they have gone back through years of my Facebook page and deleted lots of stuff and warned that my Facebook page is basically about to be deleted! And this is in the wake of the publication of the Trigger a few days ago so, you know, just a coincidence nothing to worry about!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> So you’re looking at almost a million people that you’re not gonna be reaching if they shut down your Facebook page! Not to mention Facebook I’m sure has already restricted your reach without paying thousands of dollars for every post as well.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Well I can confirm that for sure, because about four years ago, maybe five now, my Facebook page numbers got up to about seven, eight hundred thousand and they were increasing by three, or four thousand a week. And then they stopped overnight. And it basically had not moved on. And you get the same shadow banning with a YouTube. And this is the point you see.</p>
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<p>What we’ve got to understand is how few people were talking about. The jewish population of the world is naught point two percent <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[0.2%]</strong></span>. Depending on how you define a jewish person the mean figure, a number, is about 16 million, out of seven point seven billion. The people that I’m exposing not only are a tiny fraction of that number, at their core a handful ultimately, they are not “<em>jewish</em>” in the sense of people perceiving what a jewish person is. They are satanic occultists! And they actually hate jewish people. That’s the irony. And that’s why I say in the book:</p>
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<p>“<em>No one needs to read this book more urgently than jewish people.</em>”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
<p>So they can see the scale to which they have been shafted generation after generation after generation and taught from birth by their system that the rest of the world hates them! Well I’ve got some good news for them. We don’t! One, or two people might who’ve lost the plot in terms of understanding the nature of reality. But the vast overwhelming majority of people do not.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you look at any situation Adam, where the few want to control the many. And that few are always in search of a monster of a bogeyman. If you want to frighten people into invading, or justifying the invasion of Iraq, one of the other things that came from this trigger of 9/11, then tell them that Saddam Hussien has weapons of mass destruction. Tell them that Iran could do this to them and nuke their country and all this! Tell them, this thing, you want a monster that you can gather support behind you to focus upon the monster. To unite behind you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what this cult and that’s what it is, that’s behind Israel. And the vast majority jewish people have no idea. They think that people running it are like them, they’re not! And the book exposes that. What it’s done is turn the almost entirety of the rest of the human race into the bogeyman, into the monster, into the focus of fear!</p>
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<p>And if people in Israel — and many do — only realized how they’re being perceptually manipulated from cradle to grave, they might realize that actually we don’t hate them! And we don’t want ill for them. But we do want justice for a group of people <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Palestinians]</strong></span> who’ve been abused mercilessly since before 1948</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Absolutely! You know, you’re really preaching to the choir at my channel with this book. You cover so many of the same topics. And I just want to quickly give you a lot of credit. You know, one of the videos that you did years and years and years ago. You’ve been covering it over the years “<em>Rothschild zionism</em>” was that was the video. And that was a big wake-up moment for me when you just pointed out it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That was back I think during the Bush administration too. It was the same with the Bushes, Obama and then even more so with Trump. And also another thing another little secret, I have here the book “<em>The Biggest Secret</em>” that I read many years ago.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I first learned about you on YouTube, but I remember seeing you a lot on Infowars. You used to go on Alex Jones’s show you guys protested there, at Bilderberg together I think a few times. Paul Joseph Watson. Alex Jones even said.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> One time.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Oh it was one time?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Yeah in England at Watford I think in 2010</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Paul Joseph Watson of Infowars even admitted in an interview that it wasn’t Alex Jones that woke him up first but it was you and your books. I’m a huge critic of Alex Jones for him covering up all of the zionist information that’s in this book. And I was so happy to see you actually mentioning him by name a few times in here. And then I just want to read once two sentences from your book here and then I’ll let you respond it says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>The ultra zionist attack on Jones was a particularly bizarre on the face of it, because the Jones associate they mentioned — Paul Joseph Watson — rails against the impact of Islam but has argued against any suggestion of a quote “<em>Jayish plot</em>”. Jones overwhelmingly avoids the zionist connection to.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I was so happy to see you call out Alex Jones. What are your thoughts on Jones and how awful he’s shilling for Trump and in covering up zionism lately?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Well, you know, for me I, you know, put my hands up to anyone that steps out and wants to expose what’s going on in the world. And Alex Jones has done some very, very good things over the years in alerting a lot of people to the fact that the world is not actually run by the forces that appear to be in control. And on that I, a round of applause from me. Anybody who does that. Jeff Rense has been doing it as well for a long long long, long, time.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Right let me pause you there David I have to restart the call! Your voice and your audio is all out of whack and I want this to be good. Let me call right back okay?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Okay. Jeff Rense is another one who’s been on the case for a very long time, you know, I first met Jeff when I was at a speaking tour of America talking to nobody, basically in the 1990s. Way back in the 1990’s. So I say round of applause to anyone that’s made a contribution to people seeing that the world is not run by the people that appear to be running it.</p>
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<p>But I would just say that I find it sad that Alex went down the road of Donald Trump. First of all, because I think it’s the role of the alternative media to expose how the system is rigged, and not to jump on the bandwagon of, or getting get behind a particular politician. Especially someone running for the Presidency, because if you year after year decade after decade as people like me have, and Alex before, say that the system is rigged and it doesn’t matter who you vote, for the Cabal gets in, then how come you’re behind a candidate that obviously couldn’t have got there unless he was a cabal man?</p>
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<p>You know, when you think Adam, that Hillary Clinton got the nomination for their 2016 election, because the hierarchy of the Democratic Party clearly shown from WikiLeaks documents, basically shafted Bernie Sanders. So the hierarchy of political parties has the power to dictate the candidate very clearly and has done many times!</p>
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<p>Donald Trump as I recall started out on the road to win the nomination in the Republican Party with sixteen other people. And, you know, Donald Trump like all these politicians and Donald Trump will be up there with any of them, has not only got skeletons in the cupboard, he’s got whole cemeteries!</p>
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<p>So if there was a true desire to stop his candidacy then it would have been stopped and he wouldn’t have come through a field of professional Republicans as an outsider and won the nomination and then won the election! It wouldn’t have happened!</p>
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<p>And for me Donald Trump was brought in for a number of reasons, here&#8217;s two of them. One he is owned by this cult! I’m not saying he&#8217;s an insider of it, I’m saying he&#8217;s owned by it, which is basically operated out of Israel. That’s why from the moment he became President, Israel could do what it liked in terms of more and more illegal settlements on Palestinian land.</p>
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<p>That’s why the American Embassy was moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. That’s why he’s now talking about a new defense pact with Israel as if they haven’t got one already. Um it’s, because he’s owned by Israel. And you look at two Trump employees a bankruptcy lawyer David Friedman, ultra ultra-zionist! He becomes US ambassador to Israel, actually Israel’s ambassador to Israel, if truth be told. Then you got <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:00]</strong></span> Greenblatt who said he’s now stepping down as his international negotiator of the deal with the Palestinians. They want to scam them with.</p>
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<p>You look at his Treasury secretary running the economy. That’s Minuchin, Steve Minuchin, ultra zionist. And so he’s owned by Israel!</p>
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<p>And Israel, of course, as I explained in the book in great detail wanted 9/11. When I say Israel, I keep, every time I say Israel I mean, this “<em>cult</em>”, this government, a cult that runs Israel. Um they wanted 9/11 to justify the triggering of a series of regime changes, which they’d named, of course, in September 2000 with their “<em>Project for the New American Century</em>” <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[PNAC]</strong></span>. And ever since they’ve been picking them off.</p>
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<p>So Bush and Blair pick off Afghanistan and then Iraq. And, by the way, Ehud Barak former Prime Minister of Israel and a head of military intelligence, within no time, on the morning of 9/11 was on the BBC pointing the finger at Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden! Problem, reaction, solution! With problem reaction solution you’ve gotta get your villain in early! Your fake villain in early, so that that then dominates who did it from then on.</p>
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<p>And so then you move to a Democrat in Obama:</p>
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<p>“<em>Oh! The opposite to Republican Bush! It’s gonna be different now!</em>”</p>
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<p>And we had David Cameron the Prime Minister of Britain:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Yeah! Different from Blair! A different party! It’s gonna be different now!</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And then they pick off Libya and Syria that were also on the list of the “<em>Project for the New American Century</em>” in September 2000. And now you’ve got the Trump administration, :</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Oh! It’s different! He’s a maverick!</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Focusing on Iran and other countries that were on the list. So you can see the progression from “<em>we want these countries regime change</em>” to the trigger that started it, to the attempts to regime change those countries. Some of them successful.</p>
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<p>And the other reason they wanted Trump in was to “<em>divide and rule America</em>”. They want a civil war in America. I’m not being wise after current events, this was in my last book which was before Trump was elected, I wrote that. They want a civil war! And to do that you need sides.</p>
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<p>And what we’re looking at in America and globally is the emergence of a new form of Marxism. Marxism, of course, as I talked about in the book came from Karl Marx. And Karl Marx was just a front man for this death cult that currently runs Israel, also runs Saudi Arabia and goes way back into history. And he was their boy.</p>
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<p>And you look at politics in America now and it’s polarized exactly as it was meant to be. You’ve got Trump and then and you’ve got the so-called progressives. The progressives are increasingly talking about something called socialism. And socialism is the “<em>don’t scare the children</em>” version of communism. It’s centralization of power and dictating the fine detail of people’s lives from the center point. And it’s played off against capitalism, which is controlling people’s lives from a central point by control of money.</p>
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<p>One is called a government of the people, communism, socialism. The other one’s called capitalism. But the structures may be slightly different, but the outcome is exactly the same you have a few people at the top in capitalism controlling through money control and domination, and in communism socialism a few people at the top of the hierarchy of the political system dictating the fine detail of people’s lives from a central point.</p>
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<p>And so what we’ve got in America increasingly, now this was all part of bringing Trump to power I suggest, is playing these two basically mirrors of each other — the few controlling either way — against each other! So you have this focus of <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:01]</strong></span> attention on Trump and this is really kind of relevant, because there was an ultra zionist guy called a “<em>community organizer</em>” in Chicago, who wrote books on how to how to bring down the establishment if you like. And the key one was focus attention on a single individual. The guy was called Alinsky, by the way, and he came from the same, you know, community that Obama appeared out of and he was a community organizer.</p>
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<p>So the idea he said, was focus on an individual. Don’t focus on a bureaucracy, or corporations, or anything like that. You want an individual. And that focus, it’s like the Nazis used to say, “<em>keep your propaganda simple</em>” so people will be able to follow it. And so what they’ve done with Trump is they brought him to power as a symbol of “<em>hatred</em>” by the other side of the potential planned civil war. Civil war that’s already verbal and slightly physical.</p>
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<p>They want a total physical civil war if they can. And so you’ve got this man now who is standing there, he’s the focus of hatred by the other side and it’s not about policy anymore, you know, “<em>what’s about this policy and what about that policy</em>”. It’s basically politics has become “<em>do you love Trump, or hate Trump?</em>”. It’s completely polarized American society! I’ve been there a few times since Trump was elected it’s extraordinary the polarization that’s gone on. And it’s been done systematically.</p>
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<p>So Trump has played a role in this cabal’s agenda that’s very, very, very central, both by giving Israel everything it wants, and secondly by being this figure of hatred that can divide American society. And so I think those in the alternative media that supported Trump, because they believed he was the man, need to reevaluate. A lot of them already have.</p>
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<p>And I would say to them and everyone, else the easiest way to get scammed is by people telling you what you want to hear! Do you think when someone’s coming to sell you a vacuum cleaner, or something, um that they’re going to tell you what you don’t want to hear? When they’re selling you a car are they gonna tell you what you don’t want to hear? No. They’re gonna tell you what you do want to hear! They’re gonna not tell you what you don’t want to hear.</p>
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<p>And so what Trump did — very well — was articulate many of the things that if you like the Christian Patriot wing of the alternative media in America, wanted to hear. And so many bought it. But it was just for effect to gather this whole constituency behind him. But if you look at what he’s done, he’s not done what he said he would do it all! And, you know, where was Alex, or more to the point where was Donald Trump when Alex was dumped by all these social media Silicon Valley corporations? Where was Trump for him? You know, it’s not words that make a difference it’s actions! Where’s Trump in terms of defending the alternative media from this hysteria of censorship? No where! Oh he’ll say a few words here and there. Action? Zilch!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Kushner was meeting with all of them privately.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Yeah! People like Peter Thiel, his advisor on tech. He’s one of the major people involved in the Silicon Valley tech industry producing technology of surveillance, etc., for the CIA and are others of their ilk! So I look at Trump, I hear the words and I see the actions and they’re not the same!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Right! I completely agree there, but he was given, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> That what happens when you support politicians instead of exposing the rigged system.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Right. Yeah I completely <strong>[40:00]</strong> agree! They were using Cambridge Analytica to get the right talking points, to win over the undecided voters, the on the fence voters, the conspiracy movement, the Alex Jones people. They were dog whistling. He was doing demagoguery telling people what they wanted to hear! And I also agree that he’s the figurehead and the poster boy for the hatred and the divide and conquer, except it’s not zionists that are being blamed for what Trump does it’s White Christian men that are being scapegoated for all this!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And also, you know, that the dialectic, the false paradigm, with the Left and the right we see Antifa, which supports Israel and is controlled by the same hidden hand. And then we have like these marches with the Proud Boys, which actually marches with the jewish Defense League and is also incredibly zionist. And then the dialectic with the Soros, the Sasours and the Squad vs Trump. What’s your take on them? You say Soros is a zionist controlled opposition in the book.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Oh yeah. I mean, I think, you know, before when you go any further I’ll just define what I’m exposing in the book very quickly, then I’ll come to Soros which will be relevant to that. I’m exposing in the book not a jewish plot, because I know lots of jewish people, I’ve come across lots of jewish people in my life and they haven’t got a clue what’s been done in their name. And then you’ve got the ultra zionists, some of them will be part of this cult, and some of them, probably most of them, will have simply been so programmed to believe in the “<em>my country right, or wrong, anything that’s good for Israel must be supported</em>”</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> The “<em>chosen lie</em>” also you say.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Yeah. Well all that stuff I go into in the book. So at the core where it’s really coming from, where they really know what’s happening and why, is very, very few! And like I say they’re not jewish as we would perceive jewish. They are a “<em>death cult</em>”! They are a satanic cult that goes back at least to the time of the 17th century, and a guy called Sabbatai Zevi who said he was the jewish Messiah. And, you know, a lot of people watching this program, because of your work over the years will be aware of much of this anyway, but for those who were not.</p>
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<p>And this cult of Zevi decided they were going to invert everything that jewishness and Judaism up to that point had stood for. Invert everything! So, if the orthodoxy was that on this day it’s a day of fasting, to this cult which became known as Sabbateans, it would be a day of feasting! Now that doesn’t sound too bad, but then you start inverting everything else and you start then inverting beliefs to the point where not only is sex with children not a taboo, it’s encouraged, because it’s an inversion! And in their mind, in the core of this cult, it was only a sales pitch, but many of the people that followed it believed it.</p>
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<p>The idea was that it was “<em>redemption through sin</em>”. In other words, you do more and more evil, as much evil as you can. And basically the more evil you do the quicker God will come and sort the world out, to put it in its basic form. And this Sabbatean cult and Sabbatai Zevi got at one point around a million followers. Now you think how many jewish people that are in the world now, think how many there were in the 17th century. And he had a million of them! Now that’s a big chunk.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> I heard it was half, I heard it was about half of the jewish people.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> That makes sense of the numbers, yeah. And so what then happened see is he was operating in Ottoman Empire controlled Turkey. And the Sultan gave him a an ultimatum:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>You either convert and your followers to Islam otherwise you ain’t gonna be around very long!</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And he considered it, not for very long, I would think, and said:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Okay we’ll convert!</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>But he didn’t convert, except on the surface. They outwardly worshiped as <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:01]</strong></span> Muslims, but they were really following their Sabbatean religion, cult, in private, in secret. And these people became known as the Donmeh, or Dönmah which means to “<em>turn</em>”. And these Dönmeh went on expanding and their great technique was infiltration. Of course they’re now infiltrated Islam through this fake conversion, but later they started infiltrating the Roman Catholic Church. They manifested in southern States of America as Christian zionism, etc.</p>
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<p>I talked about in the book, one of the ways they manifested this Dönmeh eventually, was as the Saudi Arabian royal family. And the Saudi Arabian royal family were put into power by the British Empire. And a British Empire in league with the Saudi, House of Saud, introduced a guy called Wahab. And Wahab’s daughter married into the Saudi royal family. And from Wahab came the extreme, head-chopping, arm chopping, version of Islam called Wahabism, which is ISIS, which is what? Saudi Arabia today, run by the Saudi royal family!</p>
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<p>And this is why in the shadows the Saudi royal family and the other aspect of the cult in Israel, have been very close. And even since the emergence of this crown prince psychopath Mohammed bin Salman in Saudi Arabia, it’s actually been more even on the surface.</p>
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<p>And this Sabbatean cult then went into even new depths of depravity in the 18th century, when a guy called Jacob Frank appeared, claiming that he was the reincarnation of Sabbatai Zevi and the reincarnation of the biblical patriarch Jacob. And he took this whole thing into overdrive, not least in infiltrating the Roman Church.</p>
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<p>And then another point in the 1800s, the 1700s, sorry the 18th century. Jacob Frank got together with the founder of the Rothschild dynasty, Mayer Amschel Rothschild. Who got together both of them with a guy called Adam Weishaupt and they created what became known as the Illuminati. And the Illuminati became a front for this, what was then, Sabbatean Frankism, this cult. And they moved in on Palestine in the way that we’ve seen.</p>
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<p>I mean, you look at the Balfour Declaration during the First World War when the foreign secretary of Britain, Lord Arthur Balfour made the declaration that the British Empire supported a homeland for jewish people in Palestine. And you find when you scratch away the official story, that there was a secret society in London started by the Rothschilds, called the Round Table, first head of it was a guy called Cecil Rhodes who plundered southern Africa for the Rothschilds.</p>
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<p>And the Balfour Declaration was actually a letter from Lord Balfour, foreign secretary, and inner circle initiative the Round Table secret society, to the funder of the Round Table secret society Lord Rothschild! And the letter was almost certainly written by a guy called Alfred Milner, who was a Rothschild connected banker, who by that time was the head of the Round Table secret society.</p>
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<p>From that secret society, by the way, that Round Table was spawned the Council on Foreign Relations in America in 1921, the Bilderberg Group in 1954, the Trilateral Commission in 1972-73, etc. And so by now we’re in the 20th century this whole cult is now expanding itself into Israel, across Europe, into America. And this vast network of <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[50:02]</strong></span> manipulation and funding, this vast network of ultra zionist groups, most famously AIPAC, in the end are expressions of this Sabbatean Frankism cult, which has been expanding it’s power through the centuries to present day.</p>
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<p>And sources that I’ve quoted in the book about all this and the Sabbatean Frankist cult and it’s gathering area of control, are actually jewish sources! Because there are people in the jewish community, not nearly enough, but there are some who absolutely know what I’ve just described is true!</p>
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<p>So when people say that Ike says it’s a jewish plot, that’s exactly what I’m not saying! That’s why I say jewish people in general need to read this book, “<em>The Trigger</em>” more urgently that anyone, to see actually was controlling them. I’m exposing a network of interlopers that have infiltrated the jewish community, and control Israel, that have infiltrated Islam via the Saudi royal family, that have infiltrated Christianity by Christian zionism, and so on, and so forth. It goes on!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> But at the core of all of this wouldn’t you say it’s essentially the Bible and Biblical prophecy? You wouldn’t have a Sabbatai Zevi and a Jacob Frank if there wasn’t the prophecies for them to return to Jerusalem and build the temple and then have their Moshiach come. So isn’t it just kind of like a twisted interpretation of Judaism?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Yeah what I did do in the book, is I made clear that this what I call “<em>Hidden Hand</em>” network, this global web, goes back a long, long, time. Way beyond Sabbatai Zevi! I mean, you’ve got the Knights Templar that were created in the twelfth century that also had the goal of rebuilding Solomon’s Temple in Jerusalem, which is what this moving of the embassy is all about. That’s where it’s leading. That’s why they want to clear out that part of Jerusalem of Muslim people, because that’s where they want to go to the rebuilding of Solomon’s Temple.</p>
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<p>I go into all that in the book especially in relation to this smart-grid, etc. So yes, this is goes back much further than this cult. But when you pick it up and you follow it through to present time, this cult has become a massively central and important part of this global web of manipulation and control, which is not only focused in Israel in this network we’re talking about now. It’s much wider than that, but this is a fundamentally important part of it in terms of current events and events of the 20th century and beyond.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> There’s certainly like a fork in the road of Judaism they changed their ideology when they decided that they were gonna start doing everything they could to fulfill prophecies on their own. Before that they were supposed to wait for the very clear Moshiach to come to lead them back. So now it’s self-fulfilling prophecy, that’s kind of a little bit of the difference they have. But at the core don’t, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> You’re absolutely right, you’re absolutely right. Once you have a blueprint and people believe that this is prophecy, &#8230; I mean, look how the Christians and the Christians ironists are manipulated by belief in prophecy, because then when you’re a manipulator as you rightly identify, all you’ve got to do is manipulate those prophecies to appear to be happening and they’ll all come with you, because they think God’s doing it! You’re absolutely right! That’s exactly what’s going on.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> And, you know, with Trump they’re putting him on the coin, and they’re moving the capital to Jerusalem, they’re really, the Sanhedrin is calling for the United Nations to be dissolved and have a new, you know, the law must come forth from zion. So they’re trying to fulfill all this and in the book you do such a great job covering the Israeli tech dominance and their agenda with AI, and all the rest of it. I wanted to show this article to you to make sure that you’ve seen this. I think I remember you sharing it. You can see my screen right? Yeah, BBC, where’s that, yeah, <strong>[55:00]</strong>:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Smartphone users warned to be careful of the Antichrist.</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So can you explain a little bit about how they’re gonna be able to pull off this world government and complete domination with the advanced tech agenda?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Well, you know, I’ve been attacked over decades for mentioning the “<em>Protocols of the Elders of Zion</em>”. And I mentioned them first of all for one simple reason. I hadn’t got into all the stuff at the time. Well I’m going way back into the 90s. And the reason I mentioned him was quite simple to say that what they predict has actually happened, it is happening! So how come? What I was saying in those days, you know, were they written by just an extraordinary prophet, or did someone just get extraordinarily lucky? I mean, look at what’s happened and what they say they’re gonna do!</p>
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<p>And as I’ve understood more, it’s become clear to me that what these Protocols are, and I’m quite open to the fact that what we see is not the original Protocols, but a version of them, probably a cut-down version of them. And you know, people say it was a forgery, well it was forgery of what? Because a forgery is a forgery of something else. And so the more that I’ve understood the deeper, deeper, wider aspects of all this, the more it’s become clear to me that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, are not a jewish plot agenda, they are a Sabbatean Frankist death cult agenda!</p>
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<p>And, by the way, just before we move on, as I pointed out in previous books and emphasized again in this, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, one of the big red flags of that is if you mentioned them then you’re immediately subject to a deluge of abuse, you’re a Nazi, or this that and the other! And what people say is you can’t talk about them, because they were shown to be a forgery by The Times newspaper in 1921. And you talk to people on the Left they’ll say that:</p>
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<p>“<em>Oh no they shown to be a forgery.</em>”</p>
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<p>Well, you know, when you look into that, those Times newspaper articles also appear in the New York Times, on which the Protocols were a forgery and, you know, made up, basically on which that is based. Those articles were written by a British military intelligence agent called Philip Graves. And he worked with a guy called T.E. Lawrence, the famous “<em>Lawrence of Arabia</em>” of course, the famous movie. And what did Lawrence of Arabia do? He was a British military operative, and his role was to manipulate the Arab people of Palestine during the First World War to join the British in kicking the Ottoman Empire out of those lands. And what Lawrence did to achieve this was promised the, what we’ll call the Palestinians, that they would have rights to self-determination on that land, once the Ottoman Empire was removed. Now Lawrence, of course, knew that wasn’t true! He knew that they wanted to get rid of the Ottoman Empire cc. So that the door was open for Israel to be created as it eventually was in 1948.</p>
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<p>So getting rid of the Ottoman Empire was very, very important. And the guy who produced a Russian emigre which was the Philip Graves’ source in those articles, for the fact that the Protocols were a forgery, was Allen Dulles. Allen Dulles! The first head of the CIA, civilian head of the CIA! And a man who was up to his neck in intrigue, and mendacity, his entire career. And he was operating at that time in a diplomatic role in Turkey, and <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[60:01]</strong></span> produced this emigres — never named —and the emigres was given a loan by The Times newspaper which was not expected to be paid back. And this is how those articles came about.</p>
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<p>But you say to that, Adam, to anybody, or ask the question of anybody that says the Protocols, they were shown to be a forgery and not to be taken seriously. You ask them well how did those articles come about? And they won’t be able to tell you, but that’s how they came about. So I’m interested in the truth not a statue and a round of applause! And therefore in the book I’ve looked at these Protocols, and what they say. Not to say proof of a jewish plot, I’m not talking about a jewish plot I’m talking about a Sabbatean Frankist death cult plot!</p>
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<p>And what you find is they talk about a, basically, a world king ruling the world from Jerusalem Israel. And course this is something that I’ve made absolutely clear many times over the years, because it’s really important to know. So many pennies drop when you realize this. There is a level of knowledge in the mainstream public arena that the population in general see and are aware of and therefore they believe that that is the cutting edge of human knowledge. Like technology, what is the cutting edge of technology in the public arena, is the cutting edge of technology? No it’s not, because in the secret underground projects, and under the secret bases, technology is light years above and ahead of what we see in the public arena.</p>
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<p>And they’re putting it into the public arena in a particular sequence, with cover stories telling you it’s just been invented, when it’s actually been known about for a long, long, time. And then there’s another level of knowledge, which this “<em>Hidden Hand</em>”, secret society network death cult has, and that knowledge is way way be and anything that people see in the public arena. And anyone that wants to bring that knowledge into the public arena they are either ridiculed as mad, or crazy, or dangerous, and all this stuff. And it’s abused and discredited, because they don’t want the public to know what they know.</p>
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<p>And it may sound fantastic to people listening to this and well it will have to. But when, back in the 20th century, they were talking in the hidden about a “<em>world king</em>” and the world being ruled from Israel, they knew how it was going to be done! Whereas the members of the public in human society at that time, how it was going to be done, was via technology they would have thought was fantasy and impossible except that now all these decades later it’s part of human life and everyday life that technology! But they knew about it then.</p>
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<p>This is that the two levels of knowledge. One in there hidden, and one in the public arena. So the more that the technological focus, the cutting edge of technological development, has started to focus upon Israel, the more how this World King, ruling from Israel, becomes explainable.</p>
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<p>And it locks into something that I’ve been exposing in my books and talks and videos, etc., for so long. And that’s the plan to create this “<em>smart grid</em>”. Tell you how fast things are moving. I remember writing in books not that long ago that we need to we need to watch, because the plan is to bring in an “<em>Internet of Things</em>” where all technologies, even your domestic appliances are connected to the Internet. And now it’s commonplace! Billions of items are connected to the Internet! And whoever controls the internet, controls those items.</p>
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<p>And what we’re seeing now out of Silicon Valley, and, you know, people like Elon Musk who tells you that <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[65:01]</strong></span> artificial intelligence could be the end of humanity — brackets true — and then starts a company called Neural Link to connect computers to the human brain! I mean, hello! And has he ever explained that? I’m not sure he’s ever been asked about it.</p>
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<p>And then you’ve got Ray Kurzweil, another ultra-zionist, an executive of Google, who’s actually put a year on it! By 2030, artificial intelligence — which basically runs the internet now — and is increasingly running more and more human life, recently even your car, and all that technology in your car. You know, as we go closer and closer to driverless cars, that’s all being made in Israel. And Kurzweil saying that by 2030 the human brain will be connected to artificially intelligence, so these are his words not mine, that once that connection is made, more and more of human thinking will be done by AI until human thinking as we currently experienced it will be virtually negligible! That’s his words.</p>
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<p>And then you start to see this concentration of global technological power and smart grid power in Israel! And the creation of this massive Center at Beersheba — which is run by the military — which is completely focused on controlling cyberspace, and controlling AI, and controlling this communication grid — I call the smart grid.</p>
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<p>At the same time although these major Silicon Valley companies, your Facebook’s and your major tech companies, your Intel’s, and your Microsoft’s, all of these major major technology AI companies, their research and development is being moved to Israel around this Beersheba complex, this massive Beersheba complex which is controlled by the military. And it’s out of there, by the way, that when you say anything on social media that is anyway criticizing Israel, you get this backlash. Well a lot of them that are are posting those comments against you are actually wearing uniforms in Israel, Beersheba!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Absolutely! The matrix, you write in the book, the matrix calls it the “<em>zion mainframe</em>”. I had missed that I didn’t realize that. And you also write about 5G a lot. I’m wondering have you seen the movie the Kingsmen.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> No not yet.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> The plot of that is a group of billionaires use the new cell phone towers to put out a frequency to cause everybody to kill each other.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Well, I’ve written about that Adam, at length in my books. I mean, I’ve research so many different subjects and they all connect. And one of the fundamental subjects to research to understand the nature of what’s happening is the nature of human thought, human emotion, even the nature of what is the human “<em>I</em>”! In other words, who are we, what is this reality that we’re experiencing.</p>
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<p>But if you merely take the brain, what the brain is a processor of information. And it works electrically, electromagnetically, and in terms of frequency vibration. And if you are communicating information within the brains frequency band, in a form that it can decode — same with a genetic structure in general — you will start impacting upon and dictating perception!</p>
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<p>I’ve shown in some of my books how research has been done that has identified particular frequencies. That if you broadcast them they will basically bring the people that receive them into a state of rage! I mean, you can do this, once you understand how reality works. And 5G is being brought in with no testing. I don’t whether you saw the question that a group of people who were the some of the big bods of the telecommunications industry were asked <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[70:01]</strong></span> on Capitol Hill in hearings about 5G. They were asked:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>How much money have you spent on independent testing into the physical effects of 5G.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Never mind the psychological effects which are just as important. And the answer was nothing! Not a penny! It’s been brought in all around the world with no testing, because if it was independently tested and those results were publicly published, then 5G would never get the chance of being used. But 5G, because of the frequency band that it’s in. It’s a new frequency band, it’s not an expanded more powerful version of 4G. It’s a different part of the electromagnetic spectrum. And it’s also very much more powerful, and they need at least 5G to run this smart grid.</p>
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<p>And like I say when I started seeing this concentration of power, and also as I mentioned earlier, Netanyahu openly bragging to choir audiences, that this is what basically they were doing, they were becoming the technological power center of the world. Then how they could control the world from Israel as the Protocols say, became technologically understandable. Because once you have an AI connection to the human brain, and you have an AI connection to all human technology, via the internet, then you can control all of it from a central point, from which you dictate the frequencies that you are transmitting! And therefore it becomes technologically possible to control an entire human society globally from a central point.</p>
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<p>I mean, not look to an extent, now even on the communication level, that small area of land called Silicon Valley how much power that has globally over human perception! We’re not even talking yet about a direct connection, we’re still talking about control of information which pit from which people form perceptions. We’re not on the next stage yet which is you getting your perceptions direct via AI. But even, now look at the power that that small area of America Silicon Valley has over human perception. Now perceive what would be possible if from a central point you had a connection to every human mind every human brain. And, by the way, to bring about this smart grid they have to have every inch of planet Earth covered by an internet connection, an AI connection if you like.</p>
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<p>And that’s why — here we go again — led by Elon Musk and his SpaceX, thousands of satellites are going up to beam the cloud — as Kurzweil calls it — to every inch of the planet! They’re creating what’s called the smart grid, I was calling in my books decades ago the “<em>technological sub-reality</em>”. That’s what it is. It’s creating a “<em>technological sub-reality</em>”. You can call it a “<em>simulation</em>” if you like.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> A virtual world.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Yeah. Connecting to the human brain. And that’s why people like Kurzweil and all these other people are talking about people living their lives more and more through quote “<em>virtual reality</em>”. What they mean by “<em>virtual reality</em>” is simply a reality that they control and dictate! That’s where we’re going. And that’s why even though I know what the reaction will be by this cult, and it’s gophers to “<em>The Trigger</em>”, I wrote it anyway! Not thinking of consequences.</p>
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<p>I’m 67 okay. I’m gonna be around a long time yet, but I gotta be around as long as a 20 year old, and a 15 year old, and a 10 year old. And when I look at my grandkids, and my kids, and I look at everyone else’s grandkids and grandkids, and even people relatively getting on it years still, I look at the world they are going <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[75:00]</strong></span> to live in unless unless backbones get stiffened, and self-censorship starts deleting, and we start looking this in the eye and circulating in this information of where we’re going! Because coming back the “<em>dots connect</em>” the more you speak!</p>
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<p>This same network that’s doing all this, to this end, is also controlling through the expanded definition of “<em>anti-semitism</em>” and through control of Silicon Valley, they are controlling the that not only are they doing what they’re doing, they’re controlling and suppressing the exposure of what they’re doing!</p>
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<p>And so when I bring out “<em>The Trigger</em>” and within days Facebook, controlled by the cult ultimately, says we’re basically going to delete your page, well that’s par for the course! And you would have come across this Adam before, I’m sure. But I do have to smile, I come across it all the time, people say to you:</p>
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<p>“<em>You can’t do that! You can’t say that! That’s not true!</em>”</p>
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<p>And then they prove you right! I got banned from Australia earlier this year. And I got the ban four hours before my plane left, because the Immigration Minister, a guy called David Coleman was told what he was going to do. And he was told what he was going to do by a guy called Abramovich who runs a man and a dog organization in Australia called the Anti-Defamation Commission — brackets read Anti-Defamation League — and the idea was that I shouldn’t be allowed into Australia, because I was saying that some people, a cabal, has so much power even though they’re very small in number, over countries. So I was wrong, I should be banned for saying that! So what they did was, this cabal, said to the minister:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>He’s not coming in!</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And I got banned four hours before my plane left! So what they’re doing all the time is they’re saying:</p>
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<p>“<em>What you’re saying is not true!</em>”</p>
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<p>And then they prove you’re right!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Right.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> It’s what Facebook’s doing now with in reaction to “<em>The Trigger</em>”</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> All the media over there in Australia is most of it so that was attacking you is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who many have reported is a Rothschild front? He’s obviously in the Cabal. And, you know, after you got banned from Australia I wanted, I was gonna bring that up when we close out here in a minute. And I loved how they brought you on the talk show too, because they wanted to smear you. And you wouldn’t back down. They were trying to force you to use that magic number that’s so important to them <strong>[6,000,000]</strong> and you wouldn’t do it! And you wouldn’t back down to their bullying! And I really respect your courage for that and for writing this incredible, and incredibly important book!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Well this is the point, you know, Adam and it does frustrate me and I do mention it one, or two times in the book in relation to people. If you say things and you believe they are true and you can support them with factual evidence, when you get the backlash, why do people apologize? Is what you said true, can you back it up factually? Yeah! So why did you apologize? You see this all the time! People, often increasingly, because it’s, you know, the walls closing in, they’re very mild comments some people make about Israel on social media, or something. Maybe a celebrity, and bingo! That backlash comes not least out of Beersheba, and they start apologizing! What are you apologizing for!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Congressman Ted Lieu just did this. You know, back to the tech. You get into the book how all of this “<em>Internet of Things</em>” is gonna tie on in the future with nanotech and smart dust and the neuro links and all this. It’s incredibly dangerous stuff. And one other thing I wanted to point out that I thought was interesting. You say this is a “<em>Babylonian plot</em>” as well. It goes back more than just, they want more than just Jerusalem, they want ancient Babylon as well, which explains how the Greater Israel would include Babylon there.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Well if you follow the history back, the Babylonians came out of what is now Iraq, between the Tigris and the Euphrates. And they moved up and there’s very good evidence that they became eventually, they became connected to the Khazars, from which, of course, the vast majority of the jewish <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[80:01]</strong></span> people alive today come from, in than Russia, the Khazarian Empire. And the Babylonians also moved in and created Rome, or the people that were the successors to the Babylonians.</p>
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<p>And this is why you have the Babylonian Trinity of Nimrod, the Father God, and Tomas Nino’s the virgin born son, and Queen Semiramis the Virgin Mother. And they used to say in Babylon that when Nimrod died he became the Sun God Baal and impregnated the Queen Semiramis with the Rays of the Sun and she gave a virgin birth to two Tomas Minos. And when they moved in on Rome that eventually became the Christian Trinity, of Father God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit. And Christians they symbolized the Holy Spirit ghost as a dove, which was the symbol of Queen Semiramis in Babylon. So it’s the same Trinity really. And the traits given to Queen Semiramis by the Babylonians, like a virgin mother, Queen of Heaven and all that stuff, they were given to an invented character called Mother Mary in the rewritten Babylonian religion, that became known as Christianity. And Christianity is the outward publicly acceptable version of the Babylonian religion.</p>
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<p>So when you for instance you have the Eucharist where they’re eating the flesh as bread, or a biscuit, and drinking the blood as wine, it’s just a publicly acceptable way of basically symbolizing — although most people in Christianity don’t know this — Christian symbolizing the literal eating of the flesh and drinking of the blood which is the Babylonian religion is engaged in. And, because this cult which eventually manifested as Sabbetean Frankism, but there are many other expressions of it, not just that one, the reason that they are engaged in sacrifice and all this horror in their rituals and their satanic rituals is, because it’s just a continuation of the Babylonian religion.</p>
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<p>In the ancient world, because of the nature of, you know, human maturity if you like they could do it openly, but now they have to do it secretly. And this is why, this is why so many famous people get caught out with Satanism and with them pedophilia. Those two are massively connected as I’ve explained in the books why that is. So when you come across to Epstein, Adam, you’re looking at classic.</p>
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<p>We had a Jeffrey Epstein in Britain exposed a few years ago now call Jimmy Savile. Jimmy Savile was a record-breaking pedophile, but what the mainstream media did not cover is the real story. He was a procurer of children for the rich and famous. And he was an inner bosom circle member of the British royal family, from the 1960s almost to his death. A very close friend of Prince Charles, almost in fact, to Savile’s death in terms of Charles.</p>
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<p>And even according to Savile himself he was brought into the bosom the inner circle of the British royal family by a royal family member called Lord Mountbatten, who is a known pedophile! I’ve been naming him as a pedophile for a long time. And then very recently, just that last maybe two, three weeks a books been published which produces FBI documents in which they are quoting people that Lord Mountbatten was a pedophile.</p>
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<p>And so, in that Savile ring he was procuring children for the rich and famous. And, of course, once people accept that, they become a blackmailers nightmare! And many of them were politicians including Ted Heath the former Prime Minister of Britain that took us into the European Union. And I exposed him as a pedophile and a Satanist in “<em>The Biggest Secret</em>”, while he was still an MP. And the book passage was read to him in the week of publication. He did nothing! Why? Because it was true!</p>
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<p>And seventeen years after I published that book, Wiltshire police in Britain started an inquiry after his death into his <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[85:02]</strong></span> pedophilia activities. And they concluded that if they had, if he was alive, they would have actually had him in for questioning, because the evidence would have supported that.</p>
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<p>And so then you go to Epstein and you see the same principle! He’s procuring young girls for the rich and famous, and the politically influential. And once they’ve accepted it they’re at it. And you see now these women, who were young girls at the time in this Epstein ring, who were saying there were hidden cameras and the audio microphones all over the place, because it’s a blackmail ring!</p>
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<p>And then you look at his alleged madame Ghellaine Maxwell. Ghellaine Maxwell is the daughter of an infamous Mossad operative called Bob Maxwell, her father, who was a media owner in Britain. I met him once, I interviewed him, because he was an owner of a football club and I interviewed him about his football club. One of the most unpleasant pieces of work I’ve ever met me life, Robert Maxwell. And I mentioned him in the book and how he was operating in their tech, covert operation, Mossad’s tech covert operation through this Promise software, which had backdoors in it so that Mossad could get into computer systems in governments and military and intelligence all over the place and corporations. And he was a he was a Mossad agent.</p>
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<p>And here’s his daughter who’s supposed to be the madam of Jeffrey Epstein. And that was again another black whale operation. And that’s why people are running for cover in all directions because they don’t want what they were involved in coming out.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> Right. I just read recently that Robert Maxwell’s last phone call was with a Habad rabbi. You mentioned Habad, you mentioned the Rebbe Schneerson, you mentioned Lurianic kabbalah. I didn’t see anything in the book about Noahide laws. Was that just, because you didn’t want to have to write a whole another huge chapter, or what’s your quick take on Noahide laws?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> You know, the book’s like about 850 pages!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> I know, can’t cover it all.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> There’s a limit. But people should should look them up. But the thing is about Maxwell is that just to show the hypocrisy of it, is he was murdered, of course. Victor Ostrovsky the Mossad agent who wrote the books about Mossad, wrote a second book, in which he mentioned that Maxwell was a Mossad agent, and how Mossad killed him on his boat which was appropriately called the lady Ghislaine after his daughter. Because at that time it was very well known in Britain, Maxwell’s media empire was breaking up. His life was breaking up, everything was breaking up around him, and he became a liability, and they wanted rid of him. And having killed him on his boat they then gave him a hero’s funeral on the Mount of Olives. Which just shows the hypocrisy really.</p>
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<p>And also shows that the people running Israel have no no connection really to the traditions of Judaism. They have inverted them! Everything is inverted! And they have contempt for your rank-and-file jewish people. As they have contempt even for the ultra-zionists who are not part of the cult but have bought their “<em>Israel right, or wrong</em>” philosophy. They’re just pawns in there in the game of the death cult without even realizing, that’s the situation. And that the death cult core will have absolute contempt for them as well. They’re just pawns in the game. Same with the Christian zionists. They will have contempt for them. They will be laughing at them.</p>
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<p>And we need to open our eyes and free people to get this information circulating, so that we can have a mature open debate on actually where the world’s going, why, and who’s actually behind it. And no one needs to know this more than jewish people, urgently they do!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> I absolutely agree. David, I know you got to get going, you’ve got other interviews to do. I hope to see you all over making the rounds talking about all this information. I really commend your courage, and this was truly a surreal interview for me. You’ve been, you know, the biggest name in alternative media. <strong>[90:01]</strong> I’ve been watching your videos for over a decade. You’re a walking encyclopedia. Thank you for taking the time. I hope we can do it again sometime, we talk about so many of the same issues it’d be great to get you back on again, soon.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Well I’m sure mate, there’s gonna be a lot to talk about, because we are heading for the endgame now. And people need to wake up to it fast. And that means putting the side consequences and just saying and doing what, you know, to be right. And you do that, and I’ve got a lot of admiration for your way of telling the truth without fearing the consequences. And if there were more people doing that the world will be a better place, and a very different place.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> I fear the consequences of not speaking out.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Green:</strong> That’s what drives it actually. All right David.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Icke:</strong> Well, I just want to say to people all the time, don’t think about the consequences of doing what, you know, to be right. Think about the consequences of not doing it! And that too me as it is clearly for you is unthinkable!</p>
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<p>There has a been numerous requests, most recently &amp; rather strongly by participant Callahan, for a separate forum to discuss the activities of &#8216;9/11&#8217;.</p>
<p>I have generally been opposed to it, it&#8217;s not part of CODOH&#8217;s job description, so to speak, and I thought it may be a distraction from our prime directive.</p>
<p>However, in lieu of Callahan&#8217;s recent impassioned plea and weighing past suggestions of others, I think it&#8217;s time to re-evaluate and consider creating such a forum. I&#8217;m not 100% sold on it, but am leaning that way.</p>
<p>Rather than make a simple yes/no poll, I would like to solicit opinions &amp; suggestions to see if this is something we should do.</p>
<p>I will set up such a <em><strong>9/11 Forum</strong></em> if there is a reasoned consensus in favor.</p>
<p>Let me hear from you. Thanks.</p>
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<p>I support it. Here&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>1. The parallels between 9/11 and the Holocaust are too big to overlook. These parallels include using both events to justify war crimes in the Middle East, there being an &#8216;official&#8217; version for both events, and ignored, but very thought out arguments against each &#8216;official&#8217; version.</p>
<p>2. Although 9/11 is not the Holocaust, the parallels deserve their own sub-forum, and what better website than <a class="postlink" href="https://forum.codoh.com">https://forum.codoh.com</a>?</p>
<p>3. This forum is very structured, and a great place to debate. Adding 9/11 in with the mix would be spice in this wonderful bowl of soup.</p>
<p>4. It would by default bring 9/11 truthers who believe in the Holocaust, and would further demolish &#8216;the Industry&#8217; by showing him facts. And people who are looking for the truth, such as a 9/11 truther, would be much easier to convince than an antifa terrorist or a warmongering, Israel loving Republican. It would be a win-win.</p>
<p>5. People such as Callahan and myself both favor this proposed sub-forum. If people don&#8217;t like it, or aren&#8217;t interested, they simply can avoid it. It really is that simple.</p>
<p>6. This isn&#8217;t flat earth or reptilian, or fringe beliefs. This is a position which very intelligent people disagree, and by no means would it make us look bad. The ADL and SPLC already defame us.</p>
<p>For these reasons, I support a separate sub-forum for 9/11 on this website.</p>
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<p>I agree with JLAD on all points.</p>
<p>The &#8216;Holocaust&#8217; and 9-11 are really joined at the hip.</p>
<p>It might be/probably will be, more difficult to Moderate a 9-11 Forum than a &#8216;Holocaust&#8217; Forum because it is so much more important to the perpetrators to keep the lid on 9-11.</p>
<p>No doubt, there will be infiltrators and agent saboteurs who will join the 9-11 Forum with the intent to start fights and heated arguments in order to get the Moderator to close the Forum own, but hopefully whoever the Moderator will be, will be able to spot them.</p>
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<p>If someone wanted to talk about 9-11 and the Israeli connections to it, does that mean we will then have to open up the forum to Israeli connections to</p>
<p>1. JFK<br />
2. USS Liberty<br />
3. Lavon Affair<br />
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<p>and any other number of false flag or conspiracies? When will it stop? I have things to say about 9-11 and that list of 5 things. But I don&#8217;t see the need to drag them in. I can do without it. I don&#8217;t mind a strictly holocaust forum staying that way.</p>
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<p><cite>Werd wrote:</cite>If someone wanted to talk about 9-11 and the Israeli connections to it, does that mean we will then have to open up the forum to Israeli connections to</p>
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<p>No, and those examples lack the parallel that the Holocaust has with 9/11. See my post above.</p>
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<p>False, this is not a &#8216;strictly holocaust forum&#8217;; there already is a WWII sub forum. Should that be removed because it talks about things not necessarily Holocaust related?</p>
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<p>Upon reflection, this makes a lot of sense.</p>
<p>The reason we have an additional section on codoh for other aspects of world war II, is because the gas chamber/gas van holocaust of the Jews is claimed to have happened at this certain time. Exposing other lies and deceptions about world war II, such as<br />
1.how many really died at Dresden<br />
2. Stalin&#8217;s aggressive plans that were thwarted by Barbarossa<br />
merely justify the right and duty to investigate wild holocaust claims.</p>
<p>The holocaust is connected to world war II like these other things because that is precisely when they occurred.</p>
<p>You say 9-11 and the holocaust are connected to perpetual war and slaughter of innocent in the middle east? There is a parallel with JFK. One of the reasons he was taken out is because he was opposed to Israeli dominance in the middle east and them having nuclear weaponry. JFK also wanted to stop the Vietnam war, a war in which Jewish technocrat Henry Kissinger was involved in prolonging.<br />
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<p>Other false flags like the Lavon Affair were to be used to demonize Arabs and justify further repression of them, ala, 9-11. So again I ask, why do we get selective with some false flags that are used to justify war and perpetual slaughter overseas, but not others? This is just me being devil&#8217;s advocate. I don&#8217;t care either way if we add a 9-11 forum. But if we are going to do it under the guise of destroying fables that are used to justify war and perpetual slaughter, then why not other false flags that have also been used for that? Where is the cut off?</p>
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<p>Moderator, first of all, thank you for your openness to this. I think JLAD and Dresden sum up a very large portion of why I find a bridge between Revisionism and 9/11 studies to be so important, and why I think this forum would benefit from incorporating such an element. However, truly, my own greatest intention is to share something a bit more specific with you all, here. There is a relatively unheard-of, evidence-based approach to 9/11 that I am extremely confident members here will find value in. I do think this will inevitably become the foundation for all 9/11 research going forward (once it becomes known), and it very much pertains to the distinction between Revisionist research (which is strictly evidence-based, critical, and open) and establishment Holocaust research (emotionally-driven, fallacious, etc.). It won&#8217;t be possible to explain here without a more proper introduction to it (which I offered in the thread I attempted to post here previously; fortunately, I saved the text for future use, just in case). If an entirely new forum for 9/11 isn&#8217;t something most members here would appreciate, I would very much value the opportunity to at least post the thread I had initially intended to share. As hard-to-believe as it may be considering the ridiculous spectrum of 9/11 theories and many hostile, fruitless debates since 2001, I can very near guarantee that&#8211;regardless of what you have heard about either &#8220;side&#8221; or fringe in the debate on 9/11 previously&#8211;this will be new to you, and will provide a refreshing style of technical analyses that will open your mind to this subject in new and productive ways.</p>
<p>As far as having a separate 9/11 forum, I think this could be a great idea as well however I do recognize the challenges that might come with moderating such a forum. The problem is, people are very passionate about whatever theory they end up aligning with, one way or another. Each theory relies on a vast amount of information from within its own paradigm and the heated debates between people of competing paradigms are often so ill-informed and grounded in so little actual, <em>immediately verifiable</em> evidence that the whole debate becomes a petty argument rather than an analysis of grounded, indisputable facts. The &#8220;evidence-based approach&#8221; I refer to is a solution to this problem, and I have seen it work. But beside this approach being introduced I have several ideas that might help alleviate certain problems. Since there are, at this time, at most five or six major technical theories about 9/11 (some of which are patently ridiculous, in my opinion, such as DEW energy beams, mini-nukes); it may be advisable to have a separate pinned thread for each of the competing <em>technical</em> theories. This will enable those who align with (or are passionate about) a particular theory to share what they regard as plausible evidence within their assigned thread. Those who are interested can add-onto what they find credible, or challenge it there. Viewers of the forum can tour each proposal for technical theories and appraise credibility. Then the unpinned, general posts can be any discussion of compatibility or consensus between these technical theories as well as any discussion of the means/motive of 9/11 (which I think most of us here already possess enough knowledge to make a clear case for).</p>
<p>While I would understand the basis for Werd&#8217;s concern about the <em>Revisionists&#8217; forum</em> if 9/11 topics were casually permitted throughout, I do not see the harm if a 9/11 forum is kept strictly separated as its own (perhaps even on a &#8220;trial basis&#8221;?). As JLAD mentioned, if people don&#8217;t like it, they can simply scroll past. The parallels between 9/11 and the Holocaust are undeniable. 9/11 is far more relevant to the Holocaust than any other Zionist-Jewish crimes of the last century (Lavon affair, USS Liberty, etc.). It is <strong>the</strong> &#8220;Big Lie&#8221; of the 21st century, demonstrably so, and for nearly the same purposes.</p>
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<p><cite>JLAD Prove Me Wrong wrote:</cite>I support it. Here&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>1. The parallels between 9/11 and the Holocaust are too big to overlook. These parallels include using both events to justify war crimes in the Middle East, there being an &#8216;official&#8217; version for both events, and ignored, but very thought out arguments against each &#8216;official&#8217; version.</p>
<p>2. Although 9/11 is not the Holocaust, the parallels deserve their own sub-forum, and what better website than <a class="postlink" href="https://forum.codoh.com">https://forum.codoh.com</a>?</p>
<p>3. This forum is very structured, and a great place to debate. Adding 9/11 in with the mix would be spice in this wonderful bowl of soup.</p>
<p>4. It would by default bring 9/11 truthers who believe in the Holocaust, and would further demolish &#8216;the Industry&#8217; by showing him facts. And people who are looking for the truth, such as a 9/11 truther, would be much easier to convince than an antifa terrorist or a warmongering, Israel loving Republican. It would be a win-win.</p>
<p>5. People such as Callahan and myself both favor this proposed sub-forum. If people don&#8217;t like it, or aren&#8217;t interested, they simply can avoid it. It really is that simple.</p>
<p>6. This isn&#8217;t flat earth or reptilian, or fringe beliefs. This is a position which very intelligent people disagree, and by no means would it make us look bad. The ADL and SPLC already defame us.</p>
<p>For these reasons, I support a separate sub-forum for 9/11 on this website.</p>
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<p>I am for such a separate forum for the reasons posted above. I have talked about the parallels between both events on a few occasions and they were eventually deleted because they are supposedly off topic. 9/11 is a huge crack in the matrix and many people who eventually start doubting the holocaust are 9/11 &#8220;truthers&#8221;. The 9/11 movement is humungous compared to holocaust revisionism. Generally, people who have that guts to think for themselves and rely on solid forensic evidence instead of hearsay. Those are the people we should attract and you will find lot&#8217;s of 9/11 truthers among them.</p>
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<div><cite>Werd wrote:</cite>The reason we have an additional section on codoh for other aspects of world war II, is because the gas chamber/gas van holocaust of the Jews is claimed to have happened at this certain time. Exposing other lies and deceptions about world war II, such as<br />
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merely justify the right and duty to investigate wild holocaust claims.The holocaust is connected to world war II like these other things because that is precisely when they occurred.You say 9-11 and the holocaust are connected to perpetual war and slaughter of innocent in the middle east? There is a parallel with JFK. One of the reasons he was taken out is because he was opposed to Israeli dominance in the middle east and them having nuclear weaponry. JFK also wanted to stop the Vietnam war, a war in which Jewish technocrat Henry Kissinger was involved in prolonging.<br />
<a class="postlink elonw" title="Opens in new window" href="https://truthout.org/articles/millions-died-because-kissinger-prolonged-the-vietnam-war-for-years-after-betraying-peace-treaty/" rel="nofollow">https://truthout.org/articles/millions-died-because-kissinger-prolonged-the-vietnam-war-for-years-after-betraying-peace-treaty/</a>Other false flags like the Lavon Affair were to be used to demonize Arabs and justify further repression of them, ala, 9-11. So again I ask, why do we get selective with some false flags that are used to justify war and perpetual slaughter overseas, but not others? This is just me being devil&#8217;s advocate. I don&#8217;t care either way if we add a 9-11 forum. But if we are going to do it under the guise of destroying fables that are used to justify war and perpetual slaughter, then why not other false flags that have also been used for that? Where is the cut off?</div>
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<p>I think the degree of 9/11 in it&#8217;s ability to change the entire social paradigm of the West is obvious, as with the Holocaust. The scale of this lie and the extent that Zionist-Jewish and corrupt Western elements were so directly involved, for the purpose of proliferating Israel and justifying wars to that end, makes this event a clear distinction from the others and far more in parallel to the Holocaust. This also entails that the social activism and research in this regard is of a similar degree of importance as the Holocaust. Understanding the evidence surrounding these lies will invariably lead to openness to consideration of the others, but that doesn&#8217;t mean other forums should be created for each of these topics. Creating a &#8220;bridge&#8221; between 9/11 and the Holocaust is good for Revisionism because it reaches out to another movement with similar goals and values and offers resources for those who are already at least open to being critical of Jewish power networks, and may be ready to ask even bigger questions about the historical record as it has been presented to them.</p>
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<p>So here we are already turning this simple question into a 911 thread.</p>
<p>My answer is NO. I should explain that but won&#8217;t because whatever I say will invite the usuals from responding in detailed opinion again&#8230;</p>
<p>There are many good reasons for not hosting a 911 section here. Surely to God there must be hundreds of sites where the topic of 911 is tediously dissected by those who start from the wrong place in order to end up when they want to be.</p>
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<p>Agreed. It is completely off topic for this forum and would create the impression that to if you question the Holocaust you must automatically be a 911 &#8220;troofer&#8221;. Some posters may think there is a link but to make accepting a Revisionist approach to the Holocaust appear conditional on that link is a sure way to alienate most of our potential audience.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard enough already to get people to open their minds to asking questions about the Holocaust. This would be yet another reason for them not to take Revisionism seriously. &#8220;They&#8217;re just a bunch of conspiracy theorists.&#8221;</p>
<p>You persuade people one step at a time. Even limiting ourselves to the Holocaust we have to have to work step by step. First show the bodies at Belsen have nothing to do with it. Then maybe some doubts about Treblinka or Auschwitz or Babi Yar.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a slippery slope. Once we have a forum on 911, why not one on the Kennedy assassination, or the moon landings, or flying saucers, or evolution or the Abominable Snowman? Each one will muddy the waters further. We have widened the remit of the forum to cover other aspects of the two World Wars. This is good. They are closely and obviously related, and do not create the impression that to question the Holocaust you have to buy into some wider view of the world.</p>
<p>Please, don&#8217;t do it!</p>
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<p>That has always been my concern, alienating potential supporters of &#8220;holocaust&#8221; Revisionism is not acceptable for a CODOH site.<br />
But then, as stated by Callahan and JLAD, there is the potential of gaining new &#8220;holocaust&#8221; Revisionism supporters by attracting to CODOH those who debate 9/11.</p>
<p>I could simply add a notice at the the top of a 9/11 Forum making it clear that &#8220;holocaust&#8221; Revisionists are not all in agreement about the various arguments concerning 9/11. The mere fact that we will get &amp; allow competing views would hopefully make that obvious.</p>
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<p>My answer is NO. I should explain that but won&#8217;t because whatever I say will invite the usuals from responding in detailed opinion again&#8230;</p>
<p>There are many good reasons for not hosting a 911 section here. Surely to God there must be hundreds of sites where the topic of 911 is tediously dissected by those who start from the wrong place in order to end up when they want to be.</p>
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<p>Offering a detailed analysis of the pros and cons of a 9/11 forum accessible through a Revisionist forum (the purpose of this thread) does not mean we are now debating 9/11 here.</p>
<p>I wanted to provide as much insight as possible on the matter as I think this is very important and it&#8217;s obvious others here feel the same. Your own incredulity and ignorance toward important elements of this topic, Borja, don&#8217;t refute its benefits for the cause we are all fighting for here; that is, exposing the greatest lies of the liars that manipulate the historical record to serve their warmongering political agenda.</p>
<p>Currently, the 9/11 forums that are out there do not typically permit or consider Revisionism, despite the fact that the recent growth of Revisionism can be directly attributed to growing awareness of certain details surrounding 9/11. By treating 9/11 as an entirely foreign topic relative to Revisionism, you&#8217;re preventing pathways that could very well lead here. As much as 9/11 bickering annoys you (and believe me, I understand why), I think there are ways we can limit that here in a properly-structured forum.</p>
<p>It is obvious that some of the &#8220;old school&#8221; folks here want to keep things the same but we should really consider the obvious benefits of reaching out to the 9/11 research community and showing the ways we can align.</p>
<p>Kingfisher says we can&#8217;t take on a separate forum for 9/11 because we might not be taken seriously&#8211;CODOH has been around for 20 years! At what point has the establishment and/or the mainstream ever &#8220;taken it seriously&#8221;?! The 9/11 truth movement has been taken at least as seriously as Revisionism, and it&#8217;s popularity among professionals in the establishment reflects that. Can you really not see the difference and applicable relevance between &#8216;moon landing fakery&#8217;, &#8216;flat earth&#8217;, etc., and 9/11?</p>
<p>The notion of a &#8220;slippery slope&#8221; is a logical fallacy. We aren&#8217;t going to degrade into oblivion if we have a discussion forum that allows 9/11 research to occur here. There will be no &#8220;official theory&#8221; of this 9/11 forum. We will acknowledge evidence, discuss parallels to Revisionism wherever applicable, and encourage visitors to also check out the Revisionist forum. We give it six months, and if all your worst fears come true, we cancel the project. What have you got to lose?</p>
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<p>This is my last post here on the subject. Me and my &#8216;old school&#8217; mate Kingfisher have made our case.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m not a 9-11 Truther, but I know 1 or 2 prominent revisionists who are. I think we should have it because I think it&#8217;s always good if someone out there wants to say something about a taboo subject then they should be allowed to. I myself probably wouldn&#8217;t be participating on it.</p>
<p>But keep in mind how we should be grateful to those who run this forum. Because it must take significant time every day to moderate. You have to follow every thread, read maybe every post! Because of that, I&#8217;d like to see someone who is currently not a moderator, become a moderator so that the current people who volunteer without pay, to run this forum are not given extra work.</p>
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<p><cite>borjastick wrote:</cite>Kingfisher has explained very clearly above.</p>
<p>This is my last post here on the subject. Me and my &#8216;old school&#8217; mate Kingfisher have made our case.</p>
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<p>Nothing wrong with being old school and for the record I respect you guys for being in the game so long, I just think it might cloud your judgment on this.</p>
<p>Kingfisher explained that he is concerned consideration of Revisionism will appear conditional upon the acceptance of &#8220;9/11 truth&#8221; arguments. This need not be the case. It does not threaten the image of revisionists to acknowledge the following:</p>
<p>&#8211; There is intense controversy surrounding 9/11<br />
&#8211; There is some evidence of possibly-significant parallels between 9/11 and the Holocaust<br />
&#8211; There is a demand among many of those who embrace Revisionism to also discuss 9/11 (e.g. Rudolf, who addresses it briefly in his 2017 edition of Lectures&#8230;).</p>
<p>And as far as outreach goes, the pool of candidates potentially-interested in Revisionism is much larger among &#8220;conspiracy theorists&#8221; than it is among those who resent them. As much as we will have to try a bit harder to set some critical thinking &#8220;ground rules&#8221; for some of these &#8216;eccentric thinkers&#8217;, I think the benefits of reaching a much broader audience far outweighs any potential costs. And again, nothing is irreversible. If we try it out and it goes nowhere, backtracking is always a possibility. But considering that what lies beyond this door/bridge could be revolutionary, I think it&#8217;s worth a shot.</p>
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<p>This is my last post here on the subject. Me and my &#8216;old school&#8217; mate Kingfisher have made our case.</p>
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<p>Nothing wrong with being old school and for the record I respect you guys for being in the game so long, I just think it might cloud your judgment on this.</p>
<p>Kingfisher explained that he is concerned consideration of Revisionism will appear conditional upon the acceptance of &#8220;9/11 truth&#8221; arguments. This need not be the case. It does not threaten the image of revisionists to acknowledge the following:</p>
<p>&#8211; There is intense controversy surrounding 9/11<br />
&#8211; There is some evidence of possibly-significant parallels between 9/11 and the Holocaust<br />
&#8211; There is a demand among many of those who embrace Revisionism to also discuss 9/11 (e.g. Rudolf, who addresses it briefly in his 2017 edition of Lectures&#8230;).</p>
<p>And as far as outreach goes, the pool of candidates potentially-interested in Revisionism is much larger among &#8220;conspiracy theorists&#8221; than it is among those who resent them. As much as we will have to try a bit harder to set some critical thinking &#8220;ground rules&#8221; for some of these &#8216;eccentric thinkers&#8217;, I think the benefits of reaching a much broader audience far outweighs any potential costs. And again, nothing is irreversible. If we try it out and it goes nowhere, backtracking is always a possibility. But considering that what lies beyond this door/bridge could be revolutionary, I think it&#8217;s worth a shot.</p>
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<p>Someone, who is willing to seriously look at the arguments of holocaust revisionists, won&#8217;t be put off or back off because of a 9/11 subforum. 9/11 is kindergarden comparted to the holocaust and 9/11 truth is on the verge of becoming mainstream. This is my take.</p>
<p>Sure, the focus of this forum must remain on the open debate of the holocaust.</p>
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<p>I would say yes. 9/11 revisionism is trendy and more acceptable, yet has similar glaring plot holes. 9/11 is a shooting gallery, fish in a barrel, chutzpah writ large that aimed too high and paid the price. Why shouldn&#8217;t we use their other mistakes against them and bolster the destruction of holocaustianity? These people are criminals, murderers. Why separate their crimes?</p>
<p>Does a serial rapist get to avoid evidence presented to the jury for priors, simply because it would &#8216;dilute the discussion&#8217; of the current charge?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s high time 9/11 activists stepped up to the plate and out of their comfort zone. And with the quality of posters here we can damn well help them on their way.</p>
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<p>First off, a thank you to the Moderator for putting a 911 forum up for consideration.</p>
<p>Next off, I&#8217;m in the YES camp. &#8220;911 Discussion Makes You Free!&#8221;</p>
<p>As others here have indicated, 911 can be a great stepping stone towards moving more people into questioning the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221;. I quite agree with that, and I believe it will help CODOH in its core mission, and not detract from it, as some have expressed concern about.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; is the giant, rogue African bull elephant in the room, while 911 is like a baby rogue elephant in the room. The fact that there&#8217;s any kind of elephant in the room in the first place makes it invisible to most people, and the larger it is, the more invisible it becomes, because it just shouldn&#8217;t, couldn&#8217;t be there! Yet there they are, waiting to be seen by those with curiosity, desire for truth, and a nagging feeling that things are terribly wrong.</p>
<p>I came to know about the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; and the fraudulent nature of it because of the great work of the revisionists. Around the same time and in parallel to that I became aware of the fraudulent nature of 911. Yet I think most people find 911 truth far more approachable, after all, its just a rogue &#8220;baby elephant&#8221;. After that though, only a brave minority go on to open their eyes wider and see the bull elephant in the room.</p>
<p>A good example of that are the Schaefer siblings, that I have been following from the beginning. Alfred and Monika Schaefer came to &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; revisionism through 911. As Callahan, JLAD, and Dresden argue, there are strong similarities operating here. The culprits are the same, and both these major events fit in with an organized jewish agenda. 911 has launched the jewish War OF Terror on the world, while using the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; as a shield and sword to repel criticism.</p>
<p>So, I support CODOH giving a 911 forum a go.</p>
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<p>I am strongly opposed for the following reasons: Firstly, 9/11 is outside CODOH&#8217;s stated purpose. It is largely an American interest and CODOH is an international forum. It would expose participants to &#8220;guilt by association&#8221; without their permission.</p>
<p>Secondly, there are enough jihad attacks in Europe and around the world &#8211; hundreds, if not thousands every year &#8211; to make it plausible that a few Saudi Muslims would wish to damage the USA given the opportunity.</p>
<p>Thirdly, it would make CODOH look like a conspiracy site and thus compromise its hard-won and constantly challenged credibility on the holocaust. It would undo decades of work by serious people for the sake of appealing to a fringe element in the USA.</p>
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<div><cite>EtienneSC wrote:</cite>it would make CODOH look like a conspiracy site and thus compromise its hard-won and constantly challenged credibility on the holocaust. It would undo decades of work by serious people for the sake of appealing to a fringe element in the USA.</div>
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<p>The recent poll results I saw stated that 50% of Americans did not believe the &#8216;official&#8217; 9/11 conspiracy theory.<br />
&#8220;Fringe&#8217; is clearly the wrong word here.<br />
That number would suggest that CODOH could potentially attract a wider audience.</p>
<p>As far as CODOH itself is concerned, I suggest:</p>
<p><em>9/11: Terror Attack or Government Fraud?</em>, by Germar Rudolf:<br />
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<div><cite>EtienneSC wrote:</cite>I am strongly opposed for the following reasons: Firstly, 9/11 is outside CODOH&#8217;s stated purpose. It is largely an American interest and CODOH is an international forum. It would expose participants to &#8220;guilt by association&#8221; without their permission.</div>
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<p>I think such a forum would only acknowledge that many of those who embrace Revisionism also find this topic to be a major and relevant concern. It would be the error of the accusers to claim that all those who visit the CODOH forum are also necessarily supportive of alternative 9/11 theories for several reasons:</p>
<p>&#8211; As this thread clearly shows, we already do <em>not</em> agree what happened; hence, discussion and defense of the established narrative will be encouraged as well as any others<br />
&#8211; Discussions of 9/11 will all take place outside of the Revisionist forum (which will be left as-is)<br />
&#8211; The intentions of having this forum will be stated clearly, which may include: to circumvent censorship attempts and welcome historically-enlightened minds into open debate for the second-most controversial historical event of the last century, which is said by many to have considerable parallels to the Holocaust</p>
<p>Also, while 9/11 is an event which took place in the US, it affects communities all around the world (e.g. War on Terror, which also brought European nations in to participate in the Al Qaeda witch hunt and militant occupations); much as the Holocaust, while set in Europe, affects policies which shape the US and much of the globe today.</p>
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<p>It is definitely possible. But keep in mind, these attacks mostly happened after 9/11. Iraq had never had a suicide bombing pre-9/11. In any case, this might be something worth discussing in the proper forum.</p>
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<div>Thirdly, it would make CODOH look like a conspiracy site and thus compromise its hard-won and constantly challenged credibility on the holocaust. It would undo decades of work by serious people for the sake of appealing to a fringe element in the USA.</div>
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<p>Holocaust Denial is considered much more of a fringe element than is having doubts about 9/11. Surveys have already shown that the majority of the population, both in the US and internationally, have doubts about the official version of events. If nothing more, it is worth discussing. And I can think of no better place than in close proximity to a forum of critical minds who have a proper understanding of historical events and context of the last century.</p>
<p>I do not see how this would/could plausibly &#8220;undo&#8221; Revisionist work. The books and articles are written, published, and relevant ideas are discussed and shared in this forum. This will remain to be the case, whether or not 9/11 is also discussed here. It should not &#8220;poison the well&#8221; for many who don&#8217;t already regard &#8220;Holocaust Denial&#8221; as extremely poisonous. But it will open the door for many critical minds who are missing an even larger piece of the historical puzzle.</p>
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<p>Would that include the Korean War, the McCarthey era, the Beatnik g-g-g-generation, the Hippie movement and a thousand other things?</p>
<p>What purpose would that serve, besides trivial pursuit?</p>
<p>9-11 and the Holohoax are closely related, or, as I said earlier &#8230;.. &#8220;they are joined at the hip&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8216;Gas chambers&#8217; and &#8216;box cutters&#8217; are what &#8220;justifies&#8221; the War of Terror. or, as they are alternatively known, &#8220;The 9-11 Wars&#8221;.</p>
<p>In such a Forum, there would be a lot of overlap and people from both sides would become convinced of the truth of the other subject.</p>
<p>Also, the people that are against having a 9-11 Forum could simply ignore it, like I ignore the</p>
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<p>The moment CODOH allows or enables such discussion, it is done. This applies whether one believes in the alternative 9/11 theory (which I currently do not) or whether they do.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s essentially the case.</p>
<p>It will, as it is in every other forum, be used against revisionism in order to make it seem absurd and dismissed without looking at it.</p>
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<p>While it is easy to pinpoint what revisionists believe because we are pretty much united in denying the same things&#8230;</p>
<p>1. All Auschwitz gas chambers.<br />
2. Overall German/Berlin/Hitler plan to physically exterminate Jews.<br />
3. Gas vans.<br />
4. All AR gas chambers<br />
5. Many so called Mengele survivors</p>
<p>In other words, each revisionist owns this aspect of revisionism and does so easily. If there are any revisionists that we castigate, it&#8217;s not because they make us look bad with their revisionism. It is because they are traitors to the cause. Mark Weber and David Irving are two examples of gas chamber turncoats. They don&#8217;t make us look bad or hurt us necessarily, they are just dead weight. I also think that most revisionists recognize that whatever Richard Krege allegedly did at Treblinka doesn&#8217;t help anyone so by and large we all reject his work in favour of better, more high quality revisionism.</p>
<p>That being said, in 9-11, you have a WIDE VARIETY of skeptics who are at war with each other and accuse other sides of being agents or stupid by planting certain false theories into the 9-11 field. Many say that those buildings were wired to be blown up instead of planes coming down. Others go WAAAYYYY far out and claim that the reason much of the concrete was pulverized, was because of something like a high powered laser beam. I&#8217;m thinking Judy Wood. The majority of 9-11 people don&#8217;t like her or her work and have suspected her of being an agent. Not to mention Alex Jones in the last few years has gotten more bizarre and animated and people use his strange behaviours to &#8220;discredit&#8221; 9-11 truth. Mind you he is not the only one to look into 9-11 since it happened, but others use that as a smear on 9-11 people.</p>
<p>If revisionists pick up 9-11, do they want to adopt this other burden of being someone who could be in the &#8220;crazy&#8221; or &#8220;bullshit&#8221; realm of 9-11 truth? They already have to deal with being a gas chamber denier. I think in these times, it is PARAMOUNT that avoiding 9-11 be considered just to avoid further smears. Such as &#8220;oh you gas chamber skeptics are also 9-11 skeptics? Is there anything you DO believe in?&#8221; Because what if non 9-11 skeptics wanted to consider holocaust revisionism? Is the point not to grow revisionism? Or does linking up to 9-11 really look like more of an advantage because allegedly more people are 9-11 skeptics nowadays than are not and they can be persuaded by revisionism?</p>
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<div><cite>Hoff Meister wrote:</cite>The moment CODOH allows or enables such discussion, it is done. This applies whether one believes in the alternative 9/11 theory (which I currently do not) or whether they do.</div>
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<p>How would CODOH be &#8220;done&#8221; just by acknowledging a controversy having some <em>possible</em> relevance to the Holocaust?</p>
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<p>How many people <em>who don&#8217;t already dismiss Revisionism (or aren&#8217;t likely to)</em> would do so on account of a forum about 9/11 existing here as an auxiliary? On the other hand, how many establishment-critical minds might consider Revisionism if they found some quality discussion on 9/11, locally?</p>
<p>I would estimate the numbers for the latter are at least an order of magnitude higher than the former.</p>
<p>No specific theory need be endorsed here. This is merely an opportunity to iron out the questions of relevance between these events which many have claimed there are striking parallels. Since it isn&#8217;t possible to contain such a broad topic within a single thread on the Revisionists&#8217; forum, a separate one is being created to isolate, identify, and hopefully/eventually work toward some degree of consensus in what Revisionists have to say on the matter.</p>
<p>I think it makes beautiful sense and I have confidence in the quality of discussions that might come out of this.</p>
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<div class="content">I say no. This is a Holocaust revisionist forum, so I think it should be limited to only the Holocaust and to a lesser extent, World War II revisionism. There is a plethora of forums on the internet for debating 9/11 &#8211; why not just simply go to one if you want to debate 9/11? I see more harm than benefits by having 9/11 discussed here. It will create the appearance that Holocaust revisionists are susceptible to conspiracy theories, thereby undermining credibility. I&#8217;ve always had more confidence in revisionists who are not 9/11 truthers than ones who are.</div>
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<p><strong>&#8220;I say no. This is a Holocaust revisionist forum, so I think it should be limited to only the Holocaust and to a lesser extent, World War II revisionism&#8221;<br />
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But, there are the WWI Forum and the WWII Asia/Pacific Forums that are unaffected by &#8220;Holocaust Denial&#8221; &#8212; nor do they affect the Holocaust Revisionist Forum.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;There is a plethora of forums on the internet for debating 9/11&#8221;<br />
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There are no intelligent, moderated forums on which to debate 9-11.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;I see more harm than benefits by having 9/11 discussed here. It will create the appearance that Holocaust revisionists are susceptible to conspiracy theories&#8221;<br />
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&#8220;Holocaust Denial&#8221; is universally seen, throughout the whole world, on every TV station, in countless &#8220;documentaries&#8221;, in school text books &#8230;.. EVERYWHERE &#8230;.. as the Great granddaddy of all &#8220;conspiracy theories&#8221;.</p>
<p>We are seen as neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, anti &#8212; &#8220;semites&#8221; and dangerous people.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;&#8230;thereby undermining credibility&#8221;<br />
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The 9-11 Truthers outnumber Holocaust Revisionists by at least 10 or 20 to 1.<br />
If anyone was to lose credibility, it would be the 9-11 Truthers for embracing Holocaust Denial.</p>
<p>Richard Gage&#8217;s Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth( <a class="postlink elonw" title="Opens in new window" href="https://www.ae911truth.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ae911truth.org/</a> ) has the signatures of over 3,000 Architects and Engineers(many of whom own their own companies) who have given their names, addresses, phone numbers and places of business, calling for a &#8220;new&#8221; investigation of 9-11.</p>
<p>Nothing remotely comparable can be said for Holocaust Revisionism.</p>
<p>The Physics department of the University of Fairbanks, Alaska recently finished an evaluation of the collapse of Building 7 and decided that it could not have come down due to fire or damage: <a class="postlink elonw" title="Opens in new window" href="http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/</a></p>
<p>To think that the physics, or chemistry department of any American University would even contemplate doing an unbiased, tranparent evaluation of Treblinka, or Auschwitz is simply out of the question, to put it as mildly as possible &#8230;.. it would actually border on &#8220;nutty&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;I&#8217;ve always had more confidence in revisionists who are not 9/11 truthers than ones who are&#8221;<br />
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I am of the exact opposite opinion.</p>
<p>9-11 Truthers are already Politically Incorrect truth seekers &#8230;.. many of them would see the truth of Holocaust Revisionism.</p>
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<div><cite>Dresden wrote:</cite>Richard Gage&#8217;s Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth( <a class="postlink elonw" title="Opens in new window" href="https://www.ae911truth.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ae911truth.org/</a> ) has the signatures of over 3,000 Architects and Engineers(many of whom own their own companies) who have given their names, addresses, phone numbers and places of business, calling for a &#8220;new&#8221; investigation of 9-11.</div>
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<p>I have my own quibbles with AE911T but that discussion is best saved for the proper forum, once it becomes available. I think they are correct that fire should not have caused the collapse but I disagree with the notion of &#8220;controlled demolition&#8221; at the WTC.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to discuss/debate it here, just pointing out that there is a spectrum of ideas on what happened and having the ability to showcase our ideas and have them challenged and refined by other informed, critical minds who may already be on the same page about Revisionism seems like a great opportunity.</p>
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<p>Exactly. There is less fear to walk into the &#8220;realm of Revisionism&#8221; when society already sees you as being halfway there. For those recognizing Zionist influences regarding 9/11, even moreso.</p>
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<p>Exactly, we need a separate sub-forum to hash out our differences, and this is the perfect place to do it.</p>
<p>Moderator, it is Christmas Eve. Can you please give us this sub-forum as a gift to us on this website?</p>
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<p>All of the comments are certainly appreciated, there are many thoughtful points to both sides of the argument.</p>
<p>After considering them all, and after feedback from the CODOH Board, I have decided to go ahead with the &#8216;9/11 Forum&#8217;.</p>
<p>The fact that so many people worldwide now disagree with the &#8216;official&#8217; conspiracy theory was key in that decision. It is no longer a &#8216;fringe&#8217; opinion to question the promoted narrative, in spite of &#8216;the media&#8217;s&#8217; attempt to claim it is.</p>
<p>To those that disagree with my decision, I will not indicate in the &#8216;9/11 Forum&#8217; description and guidelines that CODOH as a whole endorses or opposes the alternative views to the government&#8217;s narrative.</p>
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<p>Thank you for the decision, <strong>Moderator</strong>!</p>
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<p>After considering them all, and after feedback from the CODOH Board, I have decided to go ahead with the &#8216;9/11 Forum&#8217;. &#8230;</p>
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<p>Great news and smart decision. If this forum provides an orderly and rational discussion of 9/11 then it may attract many 9/11 truthers who wish to discuss controversial topics in a polite, respectful and rational manner without flame wars, ad hominem attacks, and all that.</p>
<p>Currently, this forum has three main headings: &#8220;Holocaust revisionism (English)&#8221;, &#8220;Holocaust revisionism (International)&#8221; and Finally, &#8220;Revisionism&#8221;. I suggest adding the subforum &#8220;9/11-revisionism&#8221; under the &#8220;Revisionism&#8221; header and side by side with WWI and WWII revisionism. This would fit nicely into this forum.</p>
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<p>&#8211; Motive: Pretext for Zionist Imperialist Wars<br />
&#8211; Motive: Jihadi Terror Assault on Western Values<br />
&#8211; Means: Positions of Authority Surrounding 9/11 Events<br />
&#8211; Means: Terrorist Cell with Hijacked Planes</p>
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<p>&#8220;On Monday, New Year’s Eve, a hacker group announced it had breached a law firm handling cases related to the September 11 attacks, and threatened to publicly release a large cache of related internal files unless their ransom demands were met.&#8221;</p>
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<div class="content">I now have The 9/11 Forum up.<br />
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<p>Awesome, thank you.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>John Friend</strong> from &#8220;<strong><em>The Realist Report</em></strong>&#8221; interviews (Sept, 2018) <strong>Christopher Bollyn,</strong> the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;<em><strong>Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World</strong></em>&#8221; and his latest book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They discuss the state of the 9-11 truth movement, his latest book, the demonization of Muslims while simultaneously flooding White countries with them and other incompatible aliens.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Also, how Israel, and its agents, and shabbos goys, were able to carry out 9-11 with such audacity, due to their assured control over six crucial elements, namely: <strong>law enforcement</strong>, <strong>mass media</strong>, <strong>litigation</strong>, <strong>security</strong>, <strong>government</strong>, and the <strong>military</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Such control not only allowed them to carry out the crime, killing and maiming millions since, but most importantly, cover up their involvement while hoodwinking the public into believing that Arabs carried it out.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Christopher Bollyn&#8217;s work proves beyond any doubt that 9-11 was carried out by organized jewry through Israel and zionists within the US, to create their &#8220;<em>War on Terror</em>&#8220;, aka, &#8220;<strong><em>War OF Terror</em></strong>&#8220;, in order to justify the smashing of Arab countries, and others, as part of a scheme to create a &#8220;<em>Greater Israel</em>&#8221; domination over the Middle East, as well as their larger New World Order agenda involving the further subjugation of all White countries.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined by <a class="external" href="http://bollyn.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><strong>Christopher Bollyn</strong></a>, an investigative journalist, author, and long-time 9/11 researcher. Chris and I focus on his recently published book <a class="external" href="https://www.amazon.com/War-Terror-Plot-Rule-Middle/dp/0985322543" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><strong><em>The War on Terror: The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong></a> and the origins of the Jewish-concocted “Global War on Terror”. We also discuss the 9/11 Truth movement, Bollyn’s <a class="external" href="http://bollyn.com/#article_16085" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><strong>Memo to President Trump</strong></a>, and other matters relating to 9/11 and the “Global War on Terror”.</p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> All right folks, welcome back to another edition of <strong>The Realist Report</strong>. This is your host <strong>John Friend</strong>. The website is The Realist Report dot com, where you will find an extensive archive of these podcasts, as well as other programs I’ve appeared on as a guest over the years. You will also find all of my blog posts and articles. A contact page, my Twitter feed, which is embedded in the right hand sidebar of the website, and many other useful and important links. I am a regular reporter for American Free Press, America’s last real newspaper. And I also contribute to the Barnes Review, the bi-monthly history magazine affiliated with <em><strong>American Free Press</strong></em>. I encourage listeners to subscribe to these fine print publications. Check out American Free Press dot net, and Barnes Review dot org for more details.</p>
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<p>Okay, with that said, let me introduce my special guest this evening. Tonight we are joined by <strong>Christopher Bollyn!</strong> An investigative journalist, author, and long time 9/11 researcher. Chris and I will be focusing on 9/11 primarily and his recently published book “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”, which is available from Amazon dot com..</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Thank you John. It’s nice to be with you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. Yes, this is good. I’m glad that we could talk. I’ve been wanting to interview you for a number of years. Your work has been very influential on my thinking, especially about 9/11 and the Global War on Terrorism, and American foreign policy. And really what’s kind of going on in the world, especially in the Middle East.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <strong><a style="color: #008000;" href="http://therealistreport.com/christopher-bollyn-explains-who-really-did-911/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Christopher Bollyn explains who really did 9/11 at the San Diegans for 9/11 Truth meet up group on Sunday, September 9, 2018.</a></strong></span></p>
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<p>So on that, it’s great to actually sit down and talk. I went down to San Diego a couple weekends ago and heard you give a very fine presentation about your book. You focused primarily on your book. So it was great. And I wanted you to maybe kind of comment on your speaking tour. I know you’re on a mini one right now, from what I understand. And you’ve spoken at the 9/11 Truth group in the past as well. So could you kind of talk about your current speaking tour?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes, I’m on a really short tour as you said. I was invited to speak in Texas, in San Antonio, and then I came to, I was invited also to speak at the San Diego<span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [9/11]</strong></span> Truth group. Which is one of the best truth groups in the United States. A very active group with a lot of outreach and regular events. And that was on the ninth of September. And now I have two events left in Seattle, on the twentieth, and the twenty-second of the month, in northern Seattle at libraries. And that’ll be it for this tour.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21048" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg" alt="" width="659" height="942" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg 659w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 659px) 100vw, 659px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s based, as you said, on my book “<em><strong>Solving 9/11 — The Deception That Changed the World</strong></em>”, … not that one, but the “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”, the shorter book, that came out in 2017. Because it’s very urgent at the commemoration of the September eleventh, every year.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But now, it’s very important for Americans to understand what the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is all about! And why we are engaged in this, now seventeen year old war, and why we have spent something like seven trillion dollars, as President Trump said a little while ago, in seventeen years and got nothing for it! And so, Americans need to understand that we are in a deceitful and fraudulent war! And that’s what my speaking tour is all about.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes, absolutely! And you mentioned the <strong>San Diegans for 9/11 Truth</strong> group, and I did want to briefly talk about them, because that was really how I kind of got into all of this! I went to one of their meet ups and you’re right they have got to be, … I’ve never really dealt with other 9/11 Truth groups around the country, but I’d be willing to bet everything that I have, that they are definitely one of the most organized, motivated, you know, dedicated, and professional 9/11 Truth groups out there! And you can probably attest to this. I’m sure you’ve dealt with some other 9/11 Truth groups.</p>
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<p>So I really want to kind of just tip my hat to them. They always put on a monthly meet up. They usually have a speaker to come in and present, and screen a documentary, and then have a Q &amp; A afterwards. So they really do a really good job!</p>
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<p>And I was talking to <strong>Adam Green</strong>, a mutual friend, just last night, and he’s kind of involved in the <strong>San Diegans for 9/11 Truth</strong> group. And it’s really just refreshing knowing that there are other people out there that really do care about this topic, and are doing something, you know, proactive and productive, to kind of get the word out there. So, I kind of want to just say that, as we start here.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah! They were actually the first group to invite me to speak, and I went there in the fall of 2014. And I’ve been back several times since. And yeah, they’re great! They have outreach. They have an outreach once a month, or so, in downtown San Diego, right across from the USS Midway, where it’s berthed. And they reach out to the public and try to educate the public, which is what this is all about! Educating the public about 9/11 and the war on terror.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. And you’ve been covering 9/11 really from the day that it happened. And I want to kind of talk about your research over the years, and have your main conclusions changed, or sort of evolved over the years? Or did you kind of, because almost like, right off the bat, you were talking about the Israeli connections. You know, the individuals that were arrested in New York City on the day that 9/11 happened. So, I guess, what are your main conclusions, and how they kind of evolved over the years?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. That’s a good question. Well, I was fortunate, if you will, to have been on the East Coast when 9/11 happened. I was actually in New York City early on the day. I was a writer, like you, for <strong>American Free Press</strong>, at the time. And so that was my job. And when 9/11 happened, I was on my way back to Washington DC, after a weekend up in Vermont. And the Pentagon was struck, I couldn’t go there, so I called the office and said I’m heading back for Chicago with my family. You know, I couldn’t go to Washington, I couldn’t stay in the East Coast.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I, you know, my specialty, I’d worked for American Free Press for over a year when this started, so I had, you know, I started writing journalistic articles. And the first thing that struck me was that there were important aspects of 9/11 that were being blocked, or were omitted from the official government, or the media narrative.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And those were, most conspicuously, the reports of explosions that people saw and heard. And then there was this story, which was my first story actually, about these five dancing Israelis, we call them, who were Israeli citizens, who were seen, observing, and photographing, and celebrating the attack on the World Trade Center, from across the Hudson River. The Hudson at East River there, on the Jersey side, just a stone throw from the World Trade Center. And that became my first article..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as a writer for American Free Press, I was allowed and able to, I was encouraged to, to continue my research and to write about this. And with the evidence of Israeli prior knowledge of 9/11 attacks, I began with the hypothesis that this could be a false flag attack. An Israeli operation, that was meant to be blamed on Muslims! And blamed on Arabs! In order to increase US, American hostility in the Middle East against these foes of Israel, the Arabs, and Muslims..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And with that hypothesis I started doing research and articles, and weeks became months, became years. But the hypothesis remained and was validated by what I discovered, as time went by. And so, after a couple of years, it became not my hypothesis anymore, but really my thesis!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then finally, in 2012, I published the book “<strong><em>Solving 9/11 — The Deception That Changed the World</em></strong>”, and it’s companion volume “<strong><em>Solving 9/11 — The Original Articles</em></strong>”, which contains my articles that were published originally in the American Free Press, in chronological order. So people can see how this how this hypothesis developed into a thesis and developed into my book..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, just last year, 2017 in August, I published a little book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. I wrote this as a very small, concise, volume that can be shared with people. Because this is very important that Americans understand how 9/11 fits into the “<em>War on Terror</em>” logic! Because really, that’s what happened, is that the “<em>War on Terror</em>” was a preexisting construct that needed a “<em>spark plug</em>” to make it operational! And that “<em>spark plug</em>” was 9/11!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21057" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg" alt="" width="614" height="902" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg 614w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents-204x300.jpg 204w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 614px) 100vw, 614px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes, exactly! And as you kind of explained there, right off the bat, there were all these Israeli connections that you were highlighting and writing about, but they weren’t getting a lot of coverage in the mainstream certainly. And it’s interesting how you were sort of thinking:</p>
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<p>And ironically enough, these guys ever arrested in New York — you can find the police reports from the East Rutherford Police Department, publicly available online. This is no secret. This is no, you know, crazy, outlandish conspiracy theory, or something! This is very well documented, very easy to demonstrate, and easy to verify for yourself. You know, they were arrested by these local police officers. And they’re sitting there telling them:</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Trump-IS-the-Swamp-4538-Dancing-Israelis-on-TV-show.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-16579" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Trump-IS-the-Swamp-4538-Dancing-Israelis-on-TV-show.jpg" alt="" width="1264" height="707" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Trump-IS-the-Swamp-4538-Dancing-Israelis-on-TV-show.jpg 1264w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Trump-IS-the-Swamp-4538-Dancing-Israelis-on-TV-show-300x168.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Trump-IS-the-Swamp-4538-Dancing-Israelis-on-TV-show-768x430.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Trump-IS-the-Swamp-4538-Dancing-Israelis-on-TV-show-1024x573.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1264px) 100vw, 1264px" /></a></p>
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<p>So right off the bat, you know, they’re almost trying to frame this entire thing on Arabs, on Muslims in general. So I mean, that should be a red flag right away to anybody that sat down and read that document. And secondly, why are these Israelis being arrested? They’re obviously tied into what was going on. Why was this not given more coverage? And interestingly, it actually was covered in the mainstream media at the time, but it was quickly downplayed, and kind of swept under the rug, as you well know.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes! Yes, there was, it was written about in New Jersey, in a paper called “<strong><em>The Bergen Record</em></strong>” by a journalist named Paulo Lima. And I contacted Mr Lima after 9/11, a day, or two afterwards, and talked to him about the article. Because it came out, I believe, September twelfth, in this New Jersey paper. But oddly enough, as you said, the story did not cross the river and get published in the New York papers. Because when Ted Koppel on September eleventh, he came on the air, I believe it was Ted Koppel, and he said that, about noon, or twelve thirty, he said that:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when it was discovered that these five men were Middle Eastern, but were also “<em>Israelis</em>”, then there was no interest in the media to repeat this story. So it remained in the “<strong><em>Bergen Record</em></strong>” for one day, or so, and then got pushed under the under the carpet, so to speak. But it became the essence of my first article that was printed that week after 9/11, in American Free Press.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Interesting. Yeah, that’s incredible! That you were right there to start talking about this, and covering it. And it wasn’t only the <em><strong>Bergen Record</strong></em>. I mean, I don’t know the exact time frame, but I know in the months, and maybe a year, or so, after 9/11, there were a number of mainstream articles that were written about this massive Israeli espionage operation, that had been unraveled and uncovered leading up to 9/11.</p>
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<p>And even on 9/11 itself! If I’m not mistaken, there was well over one hundred Israeli agents that were involved in this. And many of them were, in fact, arrested and deported back to Israel. What do you know about this broader network of Israeli spies that were operating all across the country? There are indications that they may have been tracking, or monitoring some of the alleged hijackers. Could you kind of demystify this a little bit?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[13:21]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well that’s the DEA investigation. The Drug Enforcement Agency investigation that was done, in which they found these so-called Israeli “<em>art students</em>” who were, you know, snooping around and trying to gain access to DEA offices, and even going to the homes of the DEA agents. And the DEA did a report that was leaked, that gave the names and talked about these people, these Israelis. As you said, it was over a hundred..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But also, there was, shortly after 9/11, there were reports in the New York media, and other media, about Israelis that were picked up here, and here, and here, and here! And so there were numerous reports of various Israeli gangs, or cells, being arrested with trucks that were exploding, bombs, and various things by the Holland Tunnel.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21084" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1.png" alt="" width="960" height="1139" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1.png 960w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1-253x300.png 253w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1-768x911.png 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-John-Friend-AFP-The-Mossad-and-911-1-863x1024.png 863w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Click image to enlarge]</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, I called the Israeli Embassy in that week after 9/11, and asked them. I said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“By my calculations, this is like ten, twenty, thirty, you know, thirty Israelis involved in this, have been arrested.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Is that true?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they said, I think I gave a number like sixty, or something. They said:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“At least! At least that number have been arrested.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So there’s, when you calculate in all these various “<em>art students</em>” and things, yes it was hundreds of Israelis who were involved in this operation! Many of whom, who had been arrested on, shortly after 9/11, or on 9/11 itself.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes! And there is a very well produced Fox News investigative series into all of this, that was published and ran by Fox News. It was quickly taken off their website, I know. You can still find it on YouTube. It’s the infamous Carl Cameron investigative series* into all of these Israeli spies that were again, basically uncovered and arrested by our own government, by the federal government, by the DEA, the FBI!</p>
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<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[* <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k43_NKYs50">Four Part Series Carl Cameron Israeli Spies in US</a>]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So, it’s really quite astonishing that we have all of this very legitimate, valid information, tying all of these Israelis into what was going on, on 9/11. And again, it’s just kind of swept down the memory hole, essentially..</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I did have a question, just to kind of get some clarification. The Israeli spies that were investigated, and in many cases arrested, by the DEA and by the FBI, were a lot of these spies tied in to the people in New York City, involved with Urban Moving Systems? Which was another Mossad front, essentially.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:50]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. As you said, the five dancing Israelis, and others who were arrested in New York, were nominally, or were employees of this Urban Moving Systems, in Weehawken, in New Jersey. Which, as Carl Cameron, or Fox News, you know, they went to investigate this a little bit too. This was a front! And it was a front for the Mossad. And that revelation came from an FBI person, to “<strong><em>Forward</em></strong>” newspaper, which is the jewish newspaper in New York, which printed that, I think, in March of 2002, or something like that.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-Dominik-Suter-Urban-Moving-Systems.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21074" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-Dominik-Suter-Urban-Moving-Systems.jpg" alt="" width="1152" height="963" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that, this group of Israelis, all these Israelis who were caught in connection to 9/11, were employees of <strong>Dominik Suter’s</strong>, <strong>Urban Moving Systems</strong>, in Weehawken, New Jersey. Which was an Israeli intelligence front, which was not really a valid moving company at all, but was actually a front!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And there were American employees who worked there, who noticed that on 9/11, the Israelis who worked at Urban Moving Systems, were jubilant! And were very happy with the attacks of 9/11! Like those five dancing Israelis. And the Americans couldn’t understand it. That they were in tears, they were crying, and these Israelis were like celebrating! Which was for them, really, you know, they’re celebrating a job well done! They had they succeeded in their criminal plot!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! It’s really amazing knowing that there is all this proof tying Israel, &#8230; That’s what’s so incredible to me! It’s like, when I was first getting into 9/11 truth, rather than even trying to get involved with all the kind of more complicated information relating to 9/11, why aren’t we just out telling people:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Look! Our own government investigated what was going on, and they arrested the people that were tied into what took place on 9/11. And they weren’t Muslims from the Middle East! They were Israeli spies! And we can easily prove this!”</h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Yeah, that is the whole point, you see. And so you say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“How did the Israelis go ahead forward with this operation in New York City, and get caught with so many of these people with their involvement in 9/11? How did they have the audacity? How did they have, … why did they go forward with this plot?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the answer to that is, because they knew that they had protection within the law enforcement of the United States of America! Because the person who was responsible for the investigation of 9/11, was himself an Israeli spy! That was Michael Chertoff, who was the Assistant Attorney General under John Ashcroft. And he was the Attorney General responsible for the criminal division of the Department of Justice. And beneath him, the FBI serves as the agency that provides the evidence and the information that he needs to prosecute the case.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And under Michael Chertoff there was, in fact, no real investigation, because the evidence was being destroyed from day one! And there was no prosecution! And he’s the one who oversaw the release of these Israelis who were arrested, sent back to Israel, on visa violations, within two months after 9/11.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[18:56]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! Nothing to see here, guys! We’re just going to deport these prime suspects in what took place on 9/11, back to Israel! Nothing to see here! Yep, it’s pretty incredible when you stop and think about it..</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I want to talk more about, like you have an article on your website, “<a href="http://www.bollyn.com/#article_16099"><em>The Key zionist Control Points of 9/11</em></a>” <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>. </strong></span>I kind of want to focus on that for just a minute. Before we do that, I want to ask you, could you maybe just like summarize your overall views of 9/11? If you had to, like explain it like an average American, you how would you go about explaining 9/11 to them?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21076" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg" alt="" width="719" height="574" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg 719w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin-300x239.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 719px) 100vw, 719px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well, that 9/11 was a hoax, a false flag operation, that was done by Israeli intelligence, military intelligence primarily, I believe. And the purpose was to was to start the “<em>War on Terror</em>”!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the “<em>War on Terror</em>” itself, is really a construct that goes back to, about 1979, July, when <strong>Menachem Begin</strong> then the Prime Minister of Israel, organized a conference in Jerusalem. Some conference about international terrorism under the auspices of Netanyahu family, Benjamin, and his father, Benzion. And they had this propaganda offensive, where they rolled out “<em>international terrorism</em>” as the new global bogeyman.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this “<em>War on Terror</em>” that&#8217;s been promoted for decades until — and it was like a bonfire he was trying to light, but it wouldn’t light without the proper fuel. And the fuel that was necessary to ignite and make, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> And that’s what brought the United States militarily into the Middle East, waging war against Israel’s enemies! </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21071" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military.jpg" alt="" width="834" height="625" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military.jpg 834w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military-300x225.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 834px) 100vw, 834px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this is all, you know, the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is based on a strategy that Israel has, called, the “<em>Yinon Plan</em>” to basically fragment, to conquer, to destroy the militaries of the strong Arab nations, like Iraq, and Syria, and then to balkanize, or break up those countries into ethnic statelets! Which is what’s currently being done. And all of this is, you know, now the “<em>War on Terror</em>” has become America’s longest war, longest foreign war, and most expensive in US history!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21033" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg" alt="" width="738" height="924" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg 738w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force-240x300.jpg 240w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[21:23]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh yeah! It’s incredible how much money we’ve spent! I just put it together, an article yesterday, a blog post over on the Realist Report dot com. And even like mainstream reports put the price tag at like, four trillion dollars, I think it is! And some estimates are even higher! It’s just incredible how much money we spent since 9/11, prosecuting this fraudulent global war on terrorism, that’s totally against America’s national interests! And, of course, totally for the interests of Israel, and the wider international jewish community. Certainly in the Middle East it’s just such a big scam, it’s truly outrageous!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I wanted to talk about the key control points of 9/11. And you outlined this very well, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yup.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> In an article on your website. And really this is, what all of your books are really all about, is kind of explaining how they were able to do 9/11. Because that was what was so kind of just baffling to me! Once I realized the official narrative, the official conspiracy theory, and that is what it is, the official story of 9/11, is itself a conspiracy theory. But the official narrative was just full of holes, it didn’t make sense. It was obviously fraudulent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I was just dumbfounded how it could actually be carried out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21081" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="680" height="971" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg 680w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> And I think once you realize that all their key players were in positions of influence to facilitate it, and to make it happen, and to cover it up, it really starts making more sense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the key points you have here, are:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>The control of law enforcement.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21068" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement.jpg" alt="" width="834" height="626" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement.jpg 834w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 834px) 100vw, 834px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>The control of the criminal investigation.</strong> You mentioned Michael Chertoff. He was the number two in the Justice Department, I believe you said. So, they were responsible for covering it up basically, and not doing an authentic genuine investigation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21069" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation.jpg" alt="" width="833" height="625" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation.jpg 833w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And really their goal was to avoid prosecuting the culprits, many of whom, again we arrested that day, and in the weeks afterwards, a lot of these Israeli spies. So they controlled the law enforcement aspect. And that the criminal investigation into it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Of course, they control the mass media.</strong> And you have a point here, you mentioned Philip Zelikow who was responsible for the, was it the 9/11 Commission report he was in charge of?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21070" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media.jpg" alt="" width="833" height="624" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media.jpg 833w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media-300x225.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> And this is like the official “<em>myth of 9/11</em>”, the way the public understands 9/11. The way it’s officially, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Interpreted.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Interpreted! Yeah! Exactly by the government, by the mass media. And here’s Philip Zelikow, this hard-line zionist. I don’t know if he’s a dual citizen, but he’s definitely jewish, and definitely has ties to the international jewish community. So of course, you know, they control the mass media.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>They control the litigation</strong>, after the fact, with US Judge Alvin Hellerstein.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21072" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security.jpg" alt="" width="833" height="625" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security.jpg 833w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>They controlled the security at the World Trade Center, and at the various airports.</strong> And, in fact, the buildings themselves, the World Trade Center complex, was basically sold to Larry Silverstein, who is obviously a jewish individual, who has ties to Israel and the broader international jewish community. In the way, that even the way that the World Trade Center complex was privatized was like this zionist criminal conspiracy, essentially, right? I mean, yeah, the way they went about selling it to Silverstein, it was clearly like this insight deal, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[24:42]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. It was very much so. And it’s important to note that <strong>Larry Silverstein</strong> had a very close relationship with Mr Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel. They would speak every Sunday afternoon on the phone, for years prior to 9/11, all the way through. And so, what we’re talking about? This was part of the setting up of the operation.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, as you said, then in the summer of 2001, the World Trade Center, which was basically publicly owned property — belonging to the Port Authority of New York, New Jersey — it was sold. It was negotiated and sold to <strong>Larry Silverstein</strong>. This was a very convoluted process.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20732" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office.jpg" alt="" width="696" height="985" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office.jpg 696w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office-212x300.jpg 212w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But Larry Silverstein and the head of the Port Authority at that time, Louis Eisenberg, were themselves both directors of the zionist fundraising out organization called, “<em>The UJA Federation of New York</em>”, the United jewish Appeal Federation of New York. Larry Silverstein was the Honorary National Chairman, he had been the National Chairman, in that position, and Louis Eisenberg was on the planning board of the UJA Federation.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, these two men, the ones who oversaw the transfer of the property of the World Trade Center to Larry Silverstein, they were both brothers in arms on the UJA, which is the biggest fund-raising organization for the state of Israel, in the United States.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> So these individuals were like, heavily involved, key players, not only in like American-jewish affairs, but really on an international scale, right? I mean, they had ties to Israel, they had ties to their cousins over in Europe, ex cetera. So, I mean, these guys were major players. And just that the way that it was transferred to Silverstein’s control, just right before 9/11! I mean, how obvious could they make it, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah it’s really just, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> In your face like, suspicious!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. He got the property I think, on July 24th.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! It was just a few months before 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> It was five weeks!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh okay! Jeez! Well yeah, I guess it was. Yes, I mean, it was like, right before 9/11! And then, of course, he takes out these insurance policies, protecting him against “<em>acts of terrorism</em>”. And, of course, that’s exactly what 9/11 was! So he’s, I don’t know exactly what the numbers are, I’ve written about it a few times over the years for <em><strong>American Free Press</strong></em>, in fact. And I think the guy’s got, I mean, I don’t know what it is, but he’s made a ton of money off of this scam!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> He should <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[unclear]</strong></span> for the insurance fraud!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. He put down a hundred million dollars of borrowed money, and got back something like five billion dollars! Five thousand million dollars in awards. And yeah, Larry Silverstein is clearly one of the people that is tied into this terrible operation. And he’s the guy that owned all three buildings that fell that day. He’s the person who told public television that he ordered building “<em>to pull it</em>”, regarding building seven</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[WTC 7]</strong></span>. <span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“And I watched the building come down.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as the owner and the beneficiary of this insurance policy, in which, this was the first time in history, that this clause pertaining to terrorist attacks, was ever used in insurance history! So I mean, yeah this guy deserves to be thoroughly investigated!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[28:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh yeah! Exactly. <strong>Well, moving on, you also point out here that government, the zionist control of really the Bush administration, but key positions in the Bush administration.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20716" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government.jpg" alt="" width="835" height="627" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government.jpg 835w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government-768x577.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 835px) 100vw, 835px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All of the neo-cons, like in the Pentagon, for example. Could you elaborate on this a little bit? Key positions that these zionists, and a lot of them were dual citizens, had in the Bush administration that, kind of facilitated 9/11?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. Well, the thing is that every person in the Bush administration, like Cheney, and Bush himself, Condoleezza Rice, and what have you. These people all had advisors, high level advisors. You know, the second person chief of staff, what have you, who were zionist neo-cons! Like Philip Zelikow, the person who wrote the executive Commission, who was the director, executive director, and the person who actually wrote this fraudulent White Paper, that covered 9/11. He was Condoleezza Rice’s senior counsel! He was her adviser. And then there was Libby, was the advisor to Cheney. Rumsfeld had a deputy called Paul Wolfowitz. And Bush had an advisor.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, all of the Bush administration was supported by these zionist neo-cons, who were basically “<em>Israel Firsters</em>” and this organization also.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">These zionist neo-cons, they were the people who were at the Defense Policy Board. And the Defense Policy Board is this group of appointed people who craft the policy for the Pentagon. And as I said, the Deputy Secretary of Defense was Paul Wolfowitz. And there was Rabbi Zakkai, who was the comptroller at the Pentagon, when something like two point one trillion dollars went missing, it was announced the day before 9/11. And Douglas Feith, and people like that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And these are the people who created the policy calling for the United States to overthrow seven countries in five years! And this was the memo that was discovered, you know, it was revealed in the Pentagon by <strong>General Wesley Clark</strong>. He discovered this memo circulating in the Pentagon, just a few days after 9/11. So it called for the United States to go to the Middle East and overthrow seven countries in five years! And that is exactly what we have been doing for the past seventeen years!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20726" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg" alt="" width="887" height="672" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg 887w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years-300x227.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years-768x582.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 887px) 100vw, 887px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. Exactly! Well and to make it even worse, we had Ehud Barak, who is a long time, top Israeli political, and I think he was also a general, if I’m not mistaken. But he this big time Israeli politician. Was the prime minister, defense minister. And on the day of 9/11 he is on the BBC being interviewed. And he basically explains the whole, what’s going to happen. You know, this is an attack by al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, he says. And now is the time for America and the wider Western world see to unite and engage in this struggle to defeat radical Islamic terrorism! And he names a number of countries, many of which General Wesley Clark exposed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it was very clear that they had this preconceived agenda, and 9/11 was just used to justify it. Into, really not only justify it, but like institutionalize it as our official US foreign policy! And that’s exactly what has happened in the aftermath, and still carries on to this very day!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right and <strong>Ehud Barak</strong> was, at the time, Israel’s most decorated soldier, they say. He had been chief of staff, he had been, as you said, Minister of Defense, he had been Prime Minister. And he just happened to be in London on September eleventh, in the studio of the BBC World Television, ready to give his interpretation of 9/11!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-20715 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png" alt="" width="480" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png 480w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC-300x225.png 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now this is called the “<em>primacy effect</em>”. When they, when something terrible like this happens, the first plausible explanation given to the public is the one that will stick in the minds of people. And that’s what he was all about. He was giving this plausible explanation. He said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The world will never be the same from today on.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said is that BBC World, which is the largest English-speaking television network in the world. It spans the globe. And he said that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We know who’s behind this.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s Osama bin Laden, and we know where he is.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Now is the time for America to start an operational, concrete, ‘War on Terror’!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as I said, this, he had also been the commander of the covert commando force on the Sayeret Matkal, where Bibi Netanyahu had been his one of his soldiers. And there was some other Sayeret Matkal players involved. I think Daniel Levin on Flight eleven was a Sayeret Matkal member. And this is a covert commando force that serves directly under the Israeli chief of staff.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, all of these connections, it shows that a Ehud Barak was primed and ready to give that interpretation. It’s so important! Because in order for such a deception to succeed, as I said, you have to get your explanation out there, and you have to spread throughout the world, as soon as possible! And that’s what he was doing in London.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[33:20]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then he went from the BBC, he went straight Sky News, Sky Television, which is owned by Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch, and told the same story. So, there were other agents around the world, in San Diego, and other places, who said exactly what Ehud Barak had been saying. So yeah, they got it out, they got the story out there.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah, they had their script ready to go. And, you know what 9/11, was really a very traumatizing, and just intense event for people to experience. And people were in fear, people were scared, and in a scenario like that, right after it happens, everyone’s traumatized, no one’s really thinking critically. They’re just looking for an explanation, looking for answers. And here these guys are on television, ready to explain exactly what America’s going to do in the aftermath. It’s really astonishing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Adam Green asked me this last night. He asked me what, you know, just my general observations of your speech the other night, down in San Diego. And just my, I guess my views on your work in general. And what really strikes me, is just how really transparent all of this is! It’s like, so obvious that they were behind this, and they’ve benefited from it! They really don’t make it a secret you. And find numerous quotes from people like Netanyahu, and others, where they’re basically boasting about how 9/11 has benefited Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there’s one quote where one Israeli, counter counter-terrorism analyst, or whatever, is talking about how 9/11 was the “<em>greatest public relations event ever carried out, in the jews favor.</em>” I mean, it’s really incredible some of the things that you can find online and verify for yourself. Just how really, truly, how obvious all of this is! How transparent their whole agenda is!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah! On September eleventh, James Bennett, <strong><em>The New York Times</em></strong>, interviewed Bibi Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu. And asked him:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“How will this affect Israeli-American relations?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Netanyahu said right away without, you know, skipping a beat, he said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s very good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then he checked himself:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, it’s not very good, but it’ll generate immediate sympathy!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as he said, a few years later, he spoke to an Israeli audience and told them that:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Israel is benefiting from one thing” he said. “And that is the attack on the World Trade Center, and the Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so how does Israel benefit? Well, Israel is benefiting, because the Israeli strategic plan, the <strong>Yinon Plan</strong> is calling for the destruction of Iraq, and Syria, and host of other Arab countries, was being fulfilled, is being fulfilled by the American struggle in Iraq! And now the American struggle in Iraq, and Syria.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[36:06]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Americans need to understand this “<em>War on Terror</em>” is really an Israeli war of aggression and conquest, being disguised in the pretext of fighting terrorism!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Right! And yeah and that’s really what your book, your latest book anyways, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. That’s really what it’s all about! Like kind of the origins of this idea of a global war on terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I wanted to spend some time and talk about this, a little bit. Because I found this so fascinating, researching 9/11. How this whole narrative, this whole paradigm of international relations — that’s really what it is — it not only goes back to the 1970s, but it was literally, like concocted and manufactured by people like Benjamin Netanyahu, and other hardline zionists in Israel. Like geo-political and military strategists, who were working in cahoots, working hand in hand, with the neo-cons in America. They were kind of formulating this idea, this narrative of a global war on terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they had been talking about, for years, how they needed a “<em>catalyzing event</em>”, a new “<em>Pearl Harbor</em>” to kind of kick-start it, and get it going. And they again, they openly wrote about this in some of their public policy papers. The PNAC document, that everybody knows about, “<strong><em>Rebuilding America’s Defenses</em></strong>”. It explicitly says this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> You know:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“We need a new Pearl Harbor to kick-start this, otherwise the American people are not going to go along with it.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And again, of course, that’s obviously what 9/11 was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So can you kind of address this, the origins of the global war on terrorism? I know Benjamin Netanyahu organized a conference in 1979, if I’m not mistaken.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Which was kind of, you know what kick started all of this yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes. That conference, the <strong>Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism</strong>, was July second, third, fourth, I think, 1979. As I said, it was held at the Netanyahu Institute. It was organized and arranged by the Prime Minister, <strong>Menachem Begin</strong>, who was the arch terrorist of the Irgun, of Israeli history, zionist history. And this was the plan that they put into effect, and rolled out in 1979. And the thing is, is that at the same time that they rolled out this plan, the Israeli chief of the Mossad, Isser Harel, predicted to an American, that Arabs would attack the tallest building in York City. And that happened, you know, with 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21022" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg" alt="" width="666" height="863" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg 666w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-232x300.jpg 232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 666px) 100vw, 666px" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Another Israeli filmmaker named Arnon Milchan, a senior Israeli intelligence agent, made a film called “<strong><em>The Medusa Touch</em></strong>”, in which he depicted a Boeing 747 crash into the Pan Am building. And at the same time they began calling for this “<em>War on Terror</em>” in 1979. So all of this activity, calling for a “<em>War on Terror</em>” and a terrible terrorist atrocity to befall the United States, this came out in the late 1970s. And this is the time when the terrorist parties, as I said, the Irgun and the Stern gang, when the leaders of these terror parties, organizations, came to power in Israel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they came to power in 1977, and they began their agenda! There’s an interesting note, that in 1979 the Israelis were occupying Lebanon. They began a terrorist operation of putting bombs, car bombs, and truck bombs, throughout Lebanon, to stir up problems, and foment war. And this is documented in the one of the books called, “<strong><em>Rise and Kill First</em></strong>”, written by an Israeli, <strong>Ronen Bergman</strong>.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20707" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg" alt="" width="673" height="940" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg 673w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman-215x300.jpg 215w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 673px) 100vw, 673px" /></a></p>
<div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:48]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it’s interesting that this, the fact that Israel was running this terror operation for four years from 1979 to 1983, in Lebanon, killing thousands of people! It’s documented in the book. It’s not discussed in the US media, because if the American jew, and the American public, understands Israel’s history of terrorism, they would understand that Israel is behind 9/11! Behind the bombing of the Marine barracks in 1983, most likely! And scores of other bomb attacks, and fomenting war in the Middle East! And that, would let the cat out of the bag!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! Yeah, and this, what you are about here, the Israelis running, like, this terror ring, or whatever, in Lebanon. They were basically setting up, it was like false-flag terrorism, essentially. They were setting up attacks and trying to get the different factions in Lebanon, fighting against each other. Is that basically what was going on?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes. Exactly!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Well, I think you’re right! I mean, that is their MO. I mean, they have a long history of staging false flag attacks, which is why it should surprise no one that they were really behind 9/11. This is just, you know how they’ve always operated, going back to the very founding of the jewish state of Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> I tend to think that a lot of what we have seen over the years in Iraq, especially, certainly, what we see in Syria right now. We see these various radical terrorist groups, that are in many cases funded and directed by Western intelligence. And they’re used to just totally destabilize the sovereign governments of these countries.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Again, I mean, this is very clearly on display with what’s going on in Syria, where all of these rebel groups are in cahoots with the CIA, and British intelligence. They’re getting funding from, in some cases, like these international organizations, like George Soros, for example. There’s even reports in mainstream media, where Israel is providing medical aid to these people, as they are wounded in battle! It’s really incredible! Even what’s admitted in the mainstream press.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> But this to me is really kind of what the whole, … this is, how the global “<em>War on Terror</em>” is perpetuated, is that it is all entirely manufactured. And I’m frankly not really convinced that there is this threat of radical Islamic terrorism. I mean, I don’t think that people from Middle East, Muslims from the Middle East should be coming over to Europe. I certainly don’t think we should be over there, and they shouldn’t be in our countries. But this idea that they pose this huge threat to us, is just totally nonsense! And it’s clear that this is entirely manufactured by these intelligence agencies, to foment this strife, and to perpetuate the “<em>Global War on Terrorism</em>”!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right! That’s right! And the people that became all Qaeda were trained in Pakistan in the early eighty’s, by Israeli military intelligence, under the command of Ehud Barak. You know, this is a little known fact, that when “<em>Charlie Wilson’s War</em>” began, with US funding, and Saudi, funding, the people who were training, and arming, and training these Arabs who became all-Qaeda, was Israeli Military Intelligence, under Ehud Barak!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. The same person who was on TV on 9/11 telling Americans, and the rest of the world, what was going to happen in the aftermath! It’s gosh, again, it’s just so very transparent and obvious what is going on!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I want to ask a little bit more about the whole “<em>Global War on Terrorism</em>”. We go back to this conference. There were terrorist events leading up to 9/11, but 9/11 is really like the main catalyst, that kind of totally changed American foreign policy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Could you maybe talk a little bit about, like the history of some of this false like terrorism, and really kind of the strategy that these Israeli military strategists have pursued? And what their agenda is?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. Yeah, the Israeli use of false flag terrorism against the United States, is something I talk about in my latest presentation. Because it goes back to the foundation of the state of Israel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Even before the state of Israel, Israel was bombing British embassies in Rome, and other places, Egypt. In the 1950s Shimon Peres <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Szymon Persky]</strong></span>with Moshe Dayan, they were bombing, using nitroglycerin bombs and Egyptian terror cells, to bomb British and American facilities in Cairo, in Egypt, in order to drive a wedge between the United States and Nasser, not just Egypt.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then there was, the Israelis with massacre, they would murder anybody who got in their way, whether it’s the British official for the Middle East, Lord Moyne, or the Count Folke Bernadotte, who was the United Nations mediator to Palestine in the aftermath of the partition plan of 1947.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then they would attack Americans directly! Like with the <strong>USS Liberty</strong>, in 1967, when they attacked this American ship in international waters, murdering thirty-four Americans in one fell swoop! And causing casualties to two-thirds of the ship’s crew. And this was another false flag operation, to drive the American policy against the Arabs!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Andrew-Hitchcock-Erasing-the-Liberty-—-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21085" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Andrew-Hitchcock-Erasing-the-Liberty-—-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="710" height="1097" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Andrew-Hitchcock-Erasing-the-Liberty-—-COVER.jpg 710w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Andrew-Hitchcock-Erasing-the-Liberty-—-COVER-194x300.jpg 194w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Andrew-Hitchcock-Erasing-the-Liberty-—-COVER-663x1024.jpg 663w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>See:</strong><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/06/18/andrew-hitchcock-erasing-the-liberty-the-50th-anniversary-of-israels-attack-on-america-transcript/" rel="next">Andrew Hitchcock – Erasing the Liberty – The 50th Anniversary Of Israel’s Attack On America — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that’s what they’re always trying to do. There was a bombing in Lebanon in 1983, against the Marine barracks at the Beirut Airport. Time, and time again, you know, we find Israeli operations against American military, American targets, designed to create hatred, or ill will, on the part of the American public, or the American government against the Arabs.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And 9/11 was simply their masterstroke, if you will!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That was the event that really panned out for them! And it’s been very successful, you have to say. But it’s only successful, because the media in our country, the United States, does not investigate the crime itself. And as I said, the actual person who was supposed to investigate the crime, did not investigate the crime! It was declared an “<em>act of war</em>” and United States went promptly to war. And there we’ve been ever since! For seventeen years now!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[46:23]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes, it’s truly outrageous!</p>
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<p>Well, you know, there has been a lot of anti-Arab, anti-Muslim propaganda put out by the media, also by Hollywood. There is a documentary I remember watching a few years ago. I think it’s called “<em>Real Bad Arabs</em>”, or something like that. Where it kind of goes through and shows all of the anti-Muslim, anti-Arab propaganda that have been in Hollywood movies, and TV shows, and stuff like that. So, on the one hand Muslims and Arabs are highly demonized, and we’re made to think that they pose this grave threat to us. Where, on the other hand, they’re now being encouraged to resettle as refugees in Europe, and also in America. It’s so backwards! It’s like we’re supposed to hate them, and yet welcome them at the same time! Have you noticed this phenomenon? It’s insane!</p>
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<p>And, of course, it’s the, frankly, the organized jewish community that is largely pushing this idea that we need to accept more refugees. Groups like the ADL, and the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, and many other jewish, you know, organized jewish groups, they’re largely behind this push So it’s really, talk about Orwellian! I mean, we’re supposed to hate them, and be fighting and killing them over in their own countries, and yet welcoming them into ours, as refugees! It’s really insane! Have you studied this at all?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh yeah! Well what’s being done, is that they’re trying to depopulate regions of the Middle East, that the, … They’re trying to, as I said, this is a plot to redraw the map of Middle East. And so, like last summer the United States was involved militarily with the Kurdish allies, so-called allies, attacking Mosul, the second largest city in Iraq, and Rocca in Syria.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And we basically, with our “<em>Kurdish allies</em>”, laid waste to these cities, and caused a great deal of migration from the cities. Because they want to depopulate these areas! They want to depopulate and move, transfer, populations around, like they did back in 47, 48. In order to create space for this “<em>Greater Israel</em>” project. They want to expand Israel, make it a larger state. And in order to do so, they need to depopulate certain regions. And at the same time, by sending these people to Europe, they’re trying to cause ill will against the Muslims, you know, as a reaction. So we’re getting, of course, this resurgence of Right wing elements in Europe, because they’re responding, they’re reacting to this forced migration that is being imposed on them.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[49:08]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. It’s a destabilization template that has worked very, very well! I mean, they’re destabilizing the Middle East. That’s really what the whole “<em>Global War on Terrorism</em>” is! It’s destabilizing the Middle East, overthrowing the sovereign governments to advance Israeli hegemony in the region, and using American military and financial might.</p>
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<p>I mean, it’s not even as if the Israelis are themselves doing this, they’re getting us to fight their battles for them! And it’s also destabilizing our countries by flooding Europe, especially. It seems like it is really kind of bearing the brunt of this, where, every day, a boatload of “<em>refugees</em>” from Africa and the Middle East show up. And they’re all presented as “<em>refugees</em>” that are fleeing persecution. When in reality most of them are young men of fighting age, that are probably criminals. And yet, you know, Europe is supposed to welcome these people with open arms! It’s a total destabilization template, working perfectly.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Absolutely! And Gadhafi warned of this! He warned the West, that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“If you remove me, as the head of Libya, you will be taking the cork out of the bottle!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That bottle being, Africa. And that’s exactly what’s happened. These boatloads of refugees are coming from Libya, which is now a fractured, failed state, where the oil is being produced, but the state doesn’t work. And these African, and other refugees, are flooding into Italy, through Sicily, and the islands, which is very close to Libya. Gadhafi was absolutely right!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, the West certainly knew, the Europeans and the Americans, certainly knew, that if they removed Gadhafi, this migration, this increased migration from Africa, would result as a direct consequence. And it has!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah. And in my view, I think it is actually a part of their agenda. A key part of their agenda. Not only destabilizing Europe and America, and traditional Western countries, but basically, you know, displacing the traditional people that founded and built these countries, and replacing them with migrants from the Third World. I think that’s a key aspect of what’s going on as well. And the global war on terrorism has facilitated this.</p>
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<p>And I wanted to ask you, I kind of want to wrap up here, we’ve got about ten more minutes, or so. When is the global war on terrorism ever going to actually end? From what I can tell it’s this, like Orwellian, never-ending nightmare! Again, I just wrote a piece about this where, there’s reports coming out about how “<em>extreme</em>” quote, unquote, “<em>extremism</em>” is a greater threat today than it was on 9/11! And we’ve got to double down in Afghanistan! And keep fighting in Iraq! And carry on what we’re doing in Syria, and maybe invade Iran next! It’s like they’re just perpetuating this.</p>
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<p>So I mean, when is this nightmare ever going to end?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Exactly! That’s the point! When is the nightmare going to end? And again, that’s why I wrote the book, because until the American people realize the fraud of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and 9/11, until they realize that, they will be unable to resist the war! Because as long as Americans believe that we’re actually fighting terrorism, which would be a good thing. If they, as long as they believe the cover story, they will not resist the war.! And they haven’t! They haven’t! And that’s the problem! The war is destroying us! Destroying our societies, as you said. And yet there’s no virtually no resistance, politically, or from the public, about this “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And God forbid, if these people continue with their agenda, they will take this country to war with Iran, and perhaps with Russia, because this is like this “<em>War on Terror</em>” goes on, and on, and on!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Very much like another Arnon Milchan film, called “<strong><em>Brazil</em></strong>”, which he made in 1986, in which a futuristic film, in which, the nation was constantly involved in this war, this distant war against terrorists. And that’s where we are!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The American media, the US media never talks, or shows us images of what’s going on in Syria, or Iraq. It’s just like it’s happening there on the fringe, far from our consciousness. Something we don’t see, out of sight, out of mind! And as long as it remains out of sight, out of mind, it will go on! As long as we give our tacit approval by not protesting. We have to come around and understand that we’ve been lied to! We’ve been cheated! We’re being plundered! And we have to resist the war!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[53:52]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> I completely agree with you! And that’s why I’ve continued to talk about 9/11. And I mean, really if you think about it, 9/11 is the main pillar of our foreign policy. It’s the main paradigm that has a profound influence on our understanding of the world, certainly what’s going on in the Middle East.</p>
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<p>But it transcends Middle East. Look at what’s happened with our airports, for example, in this whole Orwellian concept of Homeland Security, which comes directly from Israel. Once again! Israeli police advisors, they’re training our FBI, training our local law enforcement, basically propagandizing our own law enforcement into their own narratives, where everyone is a suspect. Everyone’s a potential terrorist! So it impacts not only our foreign policy, but also what’s going on domestically.</p>
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<p>This war is never going to end! Nothing is ever going to get solved unless we get to the bottom of 9/11, and start arresting the people responsible! And that leads me to one of the most important questions I want to ask you.</p>
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<p>If you were in charge of an official investigation into 9/11, and you had the ability to arrest and interrogate, who would you choose, who are the top 9/11 suspects, in your mind?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I would start by a purge, arresting the people who are clearly involved in the cover up, and the non-investigation. So, you know, it would involve arresting George Bush, the President, Cheney, Michael Chertoff, Larry Silverstein. All the people that you can see are involved in the crime itself, or the cover up, or the deception. And it would also involve a lot of the heads of media. Because the media is who interprets reality for us politically, and the media has for seventeen years, covered up 9/11, knowing full well that they were omitting important facts from the public narrative!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, you would have to arrest these people, and give them the treatment that they dished out to people, like in Guantanamo! Whereby, you know, enhanced interrogation, to find out what they know. But, <strong>Rahm Emanuel</strong> would be one of them, as well. The mayor of Chicago, because he was involved in the setting up of the crime scene during the Clinton administration.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5860-Rahm-Emanuel-with-President-Clinton.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20729" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5860-Rahm-Emanuel-with-President-Clinton.jpg" alt="" width="634" height="536" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5860-Rahm-Emanuel-with-President-Clinton.jpg 634w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5860-Rahm-Emanuel-with-President-Clinton-300x254.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[56:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh wow! Yeah! I didn’t even think about Rahm Emanuel. But that would not surprise me, if he was tied in with what was going on a 9/11.</p>
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<p>I don’t for sure, for me, it would definitely be Larry Silverstein, and it would be definitely be Michael Chertoff! I mean, in my mind, those are the top suspects right there!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Absolutely!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> If we arrested those individuals, I think we could really unravel what actually happened on 9/11. Because in my view, I mean, I’m not really sure what exactly happened, how they were able to do this. There’s a lot of debate online, and over the years, that’s been a huge focus of the 9/11 truth movement, is how it was actually done. You know, was it mini nukes, or thermite? There’s all these different theories and ideas. In my view they’re interesting and worth pursuing. But, at the end of the day, this is the most important aspect, is we got to understand who is responsible for it? Who benefited from it? And what agenda it served?</p>
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<p>And that’s what your work is all about. And that’s what people need to understand. Because, again, it’s very clear, it’s very obvious, it’s very easy to demonstrate all this stuff that we’re saying! Again, it’s not some ridiculous theory that we’re making up, or inferring! It’s not conjecture. I mean, this is easily prove. You could verify everything we’ve said in this entire discussion for yourself! Very easily, just using, Google, for example.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right! That’s right. And that’s why, again, that’s why I wrote the book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. And I made it very small and concise, so people can share it with other people. It’s affordable, the book cost fifteen dollars online. And you can give it to your neighbor, and share it. Because, we have to inform our fellow citizens of the dire straits we’re in! Because, as you say, if we don’t end this war, it will end us! I mean, it really will! It will! It will destroy the country!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh my gosh! It’s practically destroyed the country! It’s certainly bankrupted the country. I mean, we spent, I don’t know how much, we talked about this previously. Some reports are four trillion! Trump, you have a quote here from Trump on your website.</p>
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<p>I wanted to wrap up actually with this. You wrote a memo to President Trump. And right at the very beginning you quote. You have a quote here from him, where he says:</p>
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<h3>“We have spent seven trillion dollars! Trillion with a that! Seven trillion dollars in the Middle East. And, you know what we have for it? Nothing! We have nothing for it!”</h3>
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<p>I’ve been on the “<em>Trump Train</em>”, I’m not going to lie! I was very inspired by his candidacy. And I think he’s saying a lot of important things. And he’s been critical of the wars in the Middle East, although he’s not really doing much to stop them, at this point. He also hasn’t done a whole lot to build the wall, and all that other stuff he said. But, I think he has a much different political actor than anybody I’ve ever seen, anyways.</p>
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<p>So, do you want to maybe wrap up on this? What are your thoughts on Trump? Do you think he’s actually ever going to do anything about 9/11? And I guess, what is the state of the 9/11 Truth Movement? See, in my view, in my personal experience, people are more receptive to this information, than it any other time I’ve been involved in this. I can say that for sure.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well I mean, if you explain to people how this war is detrimental to our nation, and to our prestige, and to our moral fiber. It distorts everything about us, it distorts the public, it brutalizes our society. If you start from that, and explain how 9/11 was done to make this war happen, people be more receptive.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t know what Trump’s going to do, and I’ve sent him open letters, and sent in my books. And I hope that he would understand the need to end this war. Because, as you said, he said “<em>seven trillion dollars</em>”. And people will argue about this figure, but in that figure, he’s including interest on the payments on the debt, and future costs that have been already incurred that would be paid out in the future. So he’s not exaggerating. It has cost that much money!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">As I said, as long as the most expensive war history, and we have to really lean on our politicians, including Donald Trump, to end this war! Because this war is so destructive of our nation, and the world! And it has to end! We can’t allow this Israeli nightmare to distort our lives, going forward! We have to come out of this Israeli nightmare! This is, you know, “<em>Milchan movie</em>”, and reclaim our history, reclaim our integrity, and end the war!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! Reclaim our reality! Our reality! We’ve been living in this “<em>artificial reality</em>” for so long. You use that term in the book. And it’s one I’ve heard, you know, John Kaminski, for example. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with him, I’ve been following his work for a number of years, and he uses that phrase, “<em>artificial reality</em>”. That’s exactly what 9/11 has done! It has created this “<em>artificial reality</em>”, that our entire foreign policy is revolving around. It’s very easy to demonstrate this, and it’s totally unacceptable, and outrageous! Everybody should be speaking out against this.</p>
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<p>And I think reading a book like yours, and in following your work, and following your website, will really give people some clarity on these subjects. And allow them to come to these conclusions, and really kind of figure out 9/11, basically.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20731" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters.jpg" alt="" width="702" height="914" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters.jpg 702w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters-230x300.jpg 230w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes, I hope so! Because, as you say, this artificial reality, they’re trying to make our country, the United States of America, the “<em>Greater Israel</em>”! So that we are like Israelis, that we’re constantly at war. We’re fighting, fighting, fighting, and terrorizing the world!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We don’t want that reality! Thank you very much! We want America back the way it should be! And we want to throw off these Israeli spectacles, and this artificial reality that they have imposed on us, and get back to our reality! You know, thank you very much. You said it very well.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes sir! Yeah, thanks man! Chris we’ll go ahead and wrap up now. I want to kind of plug your Web site real quick. Because you can pretty much find all of your information, your contact, all of the books that you have for sale. Just right out, Bollyn dot com, correct?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. And I have a special deal that I offer, the entire set, three books. The two “<strong><em>Solving 9/11</em></strong>” books, and the “<strong><em>War on Terror</em></strong>” book for fifty dollars donation. And that you can do through Bollyn dot com, or through Pay Pal.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And all I ask is that people give me a mailing address, and a phone number, and a fifty dollars donation, and I’ll send a set of books. And that’s like twenty-five dollars cheaper than they would get it from Amazon dot com. So, and that includes shipping.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh! There you go!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> So it’s a good deal.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> That’s a hell of a deal! Yeah. Do you do sign those books that you send out?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No, I can’t sign books, if I’m not at an event, because the books and I, are in different places. The books are produced, … so when I do an event then I can sign books. And if you get the book now, or the book in the future, I can send them a bookmark, you know, signed bookmark. But that’s best I can do, about signing them.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[63:25]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Very good! Well, I certainly encourage all of our listeners to support your work and to purchase your books. I have all of your books. I picked up the most recent book, down there to say the San Diego for 9/11 Truth event. So, I think you’re doing great work! I’m glad that you’re still out there talking about 9/11, going to events, speaking to public audiences, and really engaging people! I think you do a great job!</p>
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<p>You put on a great presentation every time I’ve ever seen you, whether it’s on YouTube, or in real person. And you’ve been a big influence, and you’re just really an inspirational figure in my development, in my thinking, in my writing! So I want to thank you very much for taking the time, Chris. I really appreciate it!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Thank you John. It’s been a pleasure talking to you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> All right. Well, I will talk to you again, real soon.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Okay, thank you very much.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Okay, thanks.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/05/05/the-realist-report-interviews-eric-hunt-transcript/" rel="bookmark">The Realist Report Interviews Eric Hunt — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/12/10/the-realist-report-interviews-tanstaafl-2016-transcript/" rel="bookmark">The Realist Report Interviews TANSTAAFL — 2016 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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