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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Flipside with Monika &#8211; Ep 27</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this weekly podcast episode The Flipside with Monika on Republic Broadcasting Network, Canadian nationalist and author, Monika Schaefer talks with, writer, translator, publisher, PhD Chemist and holocaust skeptic Germar Rudolf about; the passing of a revisionist giant, Jurgen Graf; Germar’s Holocaust Encyclodpedia; and his latest encounters with “the system”.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> All right. Greetings. Hello, good afternoon, good evening, good morning, wherever you might be listening from. You are listening to Republic Broadcasting Network at Republicbroadcasting.org and this is episode 27 of The Flipside with Monika. And I am your host, Monika Schaefer. And I am very pleased that my guest today will be Germar Rudolf.</p>
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<p>Before I bring him on, though, I have some announcements, you could say, a public service announcement. And one is about an event, and the other is sad news that we will talk about with Germar together.</p>
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<p>But the first one has to do with there’s a meeting going to happen in Powell River, British Columbia, Canada, and that is on the West coast. It’s on the Sunshine Coast. And I am telling you this because if you know anybody that’s on Vancouver Island or in Vancouver or along the Sunshine Coast, please tell them about this meeting because they should go! What it is Leah Gazan, that is the Member of Parliament from Manitoba, who has introduced a Bill last Autumn that is to criminalize the promotion of hatred against indigenous people. If you are condoning or justifying or downplaying the historical and lasting impact of residential schools.</p>
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<p>Now, these are these Indian residential schools in Canada that I have spoken about before. She will be in Powell River this coming Monday, January 20th. And just a little bit about her. She has this thing called “<em>being a survivor</em>”. I mean, it’s in her blood, on her maternal side. Her grandmother was a Lakota Indian and apparently was a survivor of a school. And her grandfather was Chinese. And her paternal grandparents, they were both jewish. Father was born in Holland, the paternal grandfather, I should say. And he was a toddler when Germany invaded, and he spent the war years in hiding in Holland. And the grandmother was in a concentration camp apparently in Germany. So Leah Gazan has this survivorship all really, she’s expert at it. She’s got it down pat. She introduced this bill. To me, this Bill sounds very, very similar to the Holocaust denial bills in various countries, including in Germany, where myself and my brother Alfred were both in prison.</p>
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<p>And so, yeah, it’s an issue that I think is really important.</p>
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<p>Now, the woman who is the local MP there on the Sunshine Coast and Powell River, somebody Blaney*, I can’t remember her first name. She says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s not debatable that it occurred.”</span></h3>
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<p>And she’s talking about the residential schools happening. Yes, they did happen, just like the work camps in Germany happened.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* MP Rachel Blaney to host community discussion on Indian Residential School denialism</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Powell River, BC – NDP MP Rachel Blaney invites community members to an important and timely discussion on the harms of Indian residential school denialism and pathways toward truth and reconciliation. Blaney will be joined by special guest NDP MP Leah Gazan, a lifelong educator and human rights advocate. The free event will be held on Monday, January 20, 2025, at Evergreen Theatre in Powell River with a welcome reception at 5:00 pm and a discussion at 6:00 pm.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The discussion will focus on the ongoing harms caused by Indian residential school denialism, explore its impact on survivors and communities, and discuss actionable ways to advance truth, justice, and reconciliation. Gazan will also speak about the importance of Bill C-413, a proposed bill aimed at preventing the promotion of hatred against Indigenous people.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“This discussion is about honouring the fact that Indigenous people who have lived through residential schools or are related to survivors of residential schools should not be put in a position where they have to defend that those experiences happened,” Blaney says. “We collectively as a country must embrace the fact that residential schools happened and hold that as a collective truth. It’s not debatable, and every time we act as though it’s debatable that it occurred, we are silencing the voices of people and their families and loved ones who went through that lived experience.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Residential school denialism jeopardizes the safety and wellbeing of survivors, their families and Indigenous communities,” said Gazan. “It is simply an incitement of hate against Indigenous people, which undermines any progress made towards reconciliation. We need to protect the stories of survivors and ensure denialism is stopped.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">This event is an opportunity for individuals of all backgrounds to learn, engage, and reflect on how communities can work together to honour survivors and ensure truth is at the centre of reconciliation efforts.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Admission is free; however to help plan for food and setup, those wishing to participate are encouraged to register on Eventbrite. </span><span style="color: #008000;">Event Details: </span><span style="color: #008000;">Name: From Truth to Action: Ending Residential School Denialism. </span><span style="color: #008000;">Date: Monday, January 20, 2025</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">About Leah Gazan: Since 2019, Leah Gazan has been the NDP MP for Winnipeg Centre. She is a member of Wood Mountain Lakota Nation, located in Saskatchewan, Treaty 4 territory. Her 2022 motion recognizing residential schools as an act of genocide received unanimous consent in the House of Commons, as did her motion to recognize the ongoing genocide of Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, Girls and Two-Spirit Individuals as a Canada-wide emergency. In September 2024, Leah introduced Bill C-413 An Act to amend the Criminal Code (promotion of hatred against Indigenous peoples) to criminalize the wilful promotion of hatred against Indigenous peoples by condoning, denying, downplaying or justifying the Indian residential school system in Canada through statements communicated other than in private conversation. Source: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://rachelblaney.ndp.ca/news/mp-rachel-blaney-host-community-discussion-indian-residential-school-denialism">https://rachelblaney.ndp.ca/news/mp-rachel-blaney-host-community-discussion-indian-residential-school-denialism</a>]</span></p>
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<p>And another parallel, you see. So she says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Every time we act as though it’s debatable that it occurred, we are silencing the voices of people and their families and their loved ones who went through that lived experience.”</span></h3>
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<p>Again, I see so many parallels with the Holocaust and this is our own, you know, Canadian so-called “<em>genocide</em>”. And they are going to criminalize you if you are merely skeptical about what they are telling us in that regard.</p>
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<p>So that meeting again, if you have any friends in that area of either Vancouver Island or Vancouver or north on the Sunshine Coast, tell them about this meeting. It’s January 20th, starts at 5 pm at the Evergreen Theater. And yeah, that was that public service announcement.</p>
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<p>And then I have sad news that a great man in our movement and that is the, you could say the “<em>Revisionist</em>” movement. I personally am not fond of that word. I would rather call it “<em>Correctionist</em>”. We are correcting history that we’ve been lied to about.</p>
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<p>Nevertheless, Jurgen Graf (15 August 1951 – 13 January 2025), he has passed away this week, Monday, January 13th. And like Germar Rudolf, Jurgen Graf is a giant in our movement of trying to get the truth out there. He not only wrote books, he translated many books, and he apparently was very fluent in quite a few languages. And I think that Germar will be able to tell us more about that after I bring Germar on.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/White-World-Awake-Jurgen-Graf-color.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-24867" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/White-World-Awake-Jurgen-Graf-color.jpg" alt="" width="501" height="630" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/White-World-Awake-Jurgen-Graf-color.jpg 651w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/White-World-Awake-Jurgen-Graf-color-600x755.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 501px) 100vw, 501px" /></a></p>
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<p>And I think at the beginning I was distracted by the fact that we didn’t have Germar on yet. I forgot to tell you the date today is January 18, 2025.</p>
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<p>Also, just a little reminder that if you possibly can, dear listener, if you have the means, please remember that this is a listener supported network and if you go to RepublicBroadcasting.org you will find all the information there for how you can support the network either through phone number, through PayPal, through mailing cash or check. There are different means. There’s a donate button there and there’s the information there.</p>
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<p>So all right, now I see that we have Germar here. I’ll just give a little bit of background and then I’m going to bring him on.</p>
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<p>Germar Rudolf has written books. He has published many books through this <a href="https://codoh.com">codoh.com</a>, that’s Committee on Open Debate on the Holocaust and Castle Hills Publishers. He will tell us more about all these things. The latest big work is the Holocaust Encyclopedia. Fantastic information in there! And he has been under the gun for all these things.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1837-Jürgen-Graf-Carlo-Mattogno-and-Germar-Rudolph.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22495" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1837-Jürgen-Graf-Carlo-Mattogno-and-Germar-Rudolph.jpg" alt="" width="815" height="382" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1837-Jürgen-Graf-Carlo-Mattogno-and-Germar-Rudolph.jpg 815w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1837-Jürgen-Graf-Carlo-Mattogno-and-Germar-Rudolph-600x281.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1837-Jürgen-Graf-Carlo-Mattogno-and-Germar-Rudolph-768x360.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 815px) 100vw, 815px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: Jurgen, Carlo, and Germar]</span></p>
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<p>Now he comes from Germany, he is a PhD level chemist, became curious about certain things that were a little bit of anomalies there in Auschwitz and then started to investigate and get into some trouble he is in the United States. I have no idea where, but he is on the line now. And Germar, are you there? Greetings to you.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> I am. Can you hear me?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, we can. So would you like to just before we get into, actually two topics. One would be to talk a little bit about your dear friend Jurgen Graf, and also your latest adventure, or shall we say your latest encounter with “<em>the system</em>” in quotation.</p>
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<p>Before we get into that, would you like to expand a little bit about your history in case we have some new listeners? I’m always hoping that we have new listeners. And on that note, I do encourage listeners to share these programs with others who you think need to hear these programs. Okay, go ahead, Germar.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yes. Well, where do I start? Shall we start with my dear friend Jurgen?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, let’s start there and then we’ll go into these other matters. Please do.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19384" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-1024x735.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="459" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-1024x735.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-300x215.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-768x552.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials.jpg 1121w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> We both had a similar introduction into revisionism in the early 1990s. We both learned about skepticism on the mainstream Holocaust narrative via the Canadian free speech trial by Ernst Zundel, the second one of 1989, where American expert on execution technologist Fred Leuchter appeared as a witness. And his report <span style="color: #008000;">[The Leuchter Report]</span> caused quite some stir internationally. Well, internationally you can say, it was translated into a lot of languages. And both Jurgen and I found out about it, got curious about what’s going on since forensic evidence is considered superior to any other, in particular to anecdotal evidence. We both picked up our ears. He was, however, a linguist and not a scientist, where I was a scientist and not a linguist.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/White-World-Awake-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-24865" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/White-World-Awake-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="551" height="799" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/White-World-Awake-COVER.jpg 669w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/White-World-Awake-COVER-600x870.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 551px) 100vw, 551px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/2017/02/06/book-white-world-awake-stopping-the-planned-extermination-of-our-volk/">Book: White World Awake! — Stopping the Planned Extermination of Our Volk</a>]</span></p>
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<p>Actually, as a matter of fact, I couldn’t speak any foreign languages. My English back then was so bad that I couldn’t even read normal English text fluently.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So he is fluent in, or was, I should say, unfortunately, 12 languages, if I’m correct, maybe it may have been more. And he took a historical-social approach to the topic. He was in touch with French scholar Dr. Robert Farrisson, who is one of the early leading lights in Holocaust skepticism and learned from him the ropes and then started writing a book in seclusion. And I was at the same time going down the scientific, the forensic rabbit hole, trying to figure out whether the infamous Zyklon B deployed in Auschwitz, presumably for mass murdering jews, could have left any long term traces in the Masonry of those alleged gas chambers. And if it could have left them, would they survive the time? And if they survived the time, could we still find them there?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Fred-Leuchter-13-Fred-holding-Report.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23728" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Fred-Leuchter-13-Fred-holding-Report.jpg" alt="" width="570" height="437" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: Fred Leuchter holding up his original report]</span></p>
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<p>So there’s this question that was raised by Fried Leuchter. But it was answered too hastily, too superficially. And I wanted to figure out really properly. I was not doing it in seclusion because as an expert witness, I was then actually showing up in various German trials, summoned by defense teams to testify on behalf of people who were on trial for, quote, unquote, “<em>Holocaust denial</em>”. And that, of course, I had to have my name under the expert report I wrote. And I had to appear under my real name as a witness. And that got me straight away in the cross-hairs of the authorities who were targeting me. And persecution started right there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My expert report and a popularized book that was broadening the scope to many more topics. Both were published in 1993. At the same time Jurgen Graf had also published his two books. One called “<em>The Holocaust Swindle</em>”. The other one is “<em>The Holocaust on a Test Stand</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we found out about each other’s existence only when we heard that each other’s books had been published. It was a little bit surprising because our point of contact should have been Robert, who was in contact with both of us, who advised us. And he actually kind of proofread my first version of my expert report to make sure that from his point of view, everything is straightened out. And he found a few flaws in it, fix it, helped me along the way.</p>
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<p>But anyway, he kept us separate. So we found out about each other sometime in 93. We met for the first time in 94, which was about the time that he got in touch with Italian researcher Carlo Mattogno, who is probably the most knowledgeable Holocaust expert on the whole planet. He was just gearing up back then, and the way he geared up, he wanted to go, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, to all the archives that were containing massive amounts of documents on the camps where “<em>it</em>” is supposed to have happened, whatever &#8220;<em>it</em>&#8221; is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They were tucked away for decades after the war. The Soviets or Poles, or whoever, had tucked them away for the most part, were not accessible, or not even known to exist to Western scholars, or any scholars for that matter. And after the collapse of the Soviet Union, they became known and accessible.</p>
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<p>So Carlo Mattogno, who couldn’t speak neither Polish nor Russian, wanted to get into these archives. Jurgen Graf was fluent both in Russian and Polish. So they teamed up and went on numerous trips to various places where the “<em>crime of the century</em>” is said to have happened. To get not only a forensic look at the leftovers in those camps, but also go into the archives, copy thousands and tens of thousands of documents, and started analyzing these. They sat down and wrote a number of books together, one on Treblinka, one on Majdanek. They are probably the most well known that they did together. They are part of the Holocaust Handbook series that I then started publishing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we were kind of a trio with Carlo Mattogno doing most of the hard archival work. Jurgen Graf was being the interpreter, doing the journeys and he was translating Carlo’s Italian stuff into German for me. I was the publisher initially only in German, and later when I was in English or American exile, polishing up my English, improving it to the point where I could actually publish academic level texts, was the one who was getting the message out.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/The-Realist-Report-–-Carolyn-Yeager-Sep-2017-Montage-Holo-Handbooks-in-class-Poster.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-21706" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/The-Realist-Report-–-Carolyn-Yeager-Sep-2017-Montage-Holo-Handbooks-in-class-Poster-694x1024.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="944" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/The-Realist-Report-–-Carolyn-Yeager-Sep-2017-Montage-Holo-Handbooks-in-class-Poster-694x1024.jpg 694w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/The-Realist-Report-–-Carolyn-Yeager-Sep-2017-Montage-Holo-Handbooks-in-class-Poster-600x885.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/The-Realist-Report-–-Carolyn-Yeager-Sep-2017-Montage-Holo-Handbooks-in-class-Poster.jpg 721w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Over the decades to this point, we have published 53 hard hitting archival forensic studies, for the most part. It’s the most comprehensive research study series on the Holocaust that exists in the world. It puts any mainstream work to shame! And it is the one series that makes the saying true that:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Holocaust is the best investigated and documented event in history.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But not as the mainstream claims, but we are the ones who actually document it. The mainstream has, since the war, until the Soviet Union collapsed, collected anecdotal evidence. That’s not documented history! That is &#8220;chatted&#8221; history.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[16:04]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I like that what you said, because that’s always what they say:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“This is the best documented event in history!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And yeah, it is.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yes it is! Because of <a href="http://holocausthandbooks.com">holocausthandbooks.com</a>. So 53 books, so much information and they’re complete overkill! Carlo Mattogno has the ability to go into the last nooks and crannies and describe every nut and bolt that was ever fixed in a German concentration camp because so much is documented. The Germans with a bureaucratic frenzy had documented every pencil then pushed from the left to the right of their desks. So I exaggerate here a little, of course.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I think that’s great what you say, because the Germans are kind of, shall we say, putting it politely, they’re teased for being very meticulous about detail. So that is very important. It’s exciting.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> And it is fortunate because when it comes to two of the most important camps Majdanek and Auschwitz, there are mountains of documents! And the claim that the Germans destroyed something because they wanted to hide their crimes, it’s just wrong! No, they left it all behind. The Russians grabbed it and hid it in archives. And now it has become accessible, for a while.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1998, 99, the German government put both the Polish and the Russian government under pressure to close the archives and make them accessible only to accredited, officially recognized scholars. So we were excluded again from that point onward. But by that time we had enough material and we think the most important material to actually fill all these studies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now there is so much material that I have published over the past 35 years, both in English and German, over and over again in new editions and transformed into audio books and ebooks and all the rest of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I had all this knowledge and access to it, but I had no overview. Even though I should be the one that has the best overview. It was just too much information even for me to retain. Many times I was looking for something that I know is written in some of the books. Where can I find that information? And I could pinpoint 3, 4, 5 volumes where it probably is. I had to look it up and search until I finally find it in one of my PDF files. And it happened over and over again! And finally I was sick of it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we had the idea we need to do something about it. An encyclopedia needs to be done, where certain keywords and buzzwords can be looked up and all the pertinent information is right there with a reference where you can find it mostly in our own books, but also mainstream literature, in periodicals, articles and so forth, whatever the case may be. So that the eternal search for something:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I know I published it! Where is it? I can’t find it! This or this, or this?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It finally ends! If I want all the witnesses that have ever claimed that flames shoot out of chimneys, which for technical reasons it is impossible, it’s invented. This is a cliche of the Holocaust that you can now find which witnesses have said it. How do I know? I go to the Encyclopedia. “<em>Flames coming out of chimney</em>” is an entry in there. Boom! There’s a long list of witnesses, all of which have copied from each other and all of which have lied!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Holocaust-Encyclopedia-book-2023.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-37129" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Holocaust-Encyclopedia-book-2023-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Holocaust-Encyclopedia-book-2023-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Holocaust-Encyclopedia-book-2023-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Holocaust-Encyclopedia-book-2023-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Holocaust-Encyclopedia-book-2023.jpg 1478w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p>And so there are a lot of features of the Holocaust where you can do that. And you look it up and boom, there it is! You will find it in no other resource. It’s wonderful! And I finally don’t have to search my own books anymore because I have it summarized.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yay!</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yay!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it was a selfish enterprise to finally not have to do it anymore. But the thing has been out for two years. We’re in a third edition now. So print on demand. We always make new editions that we keep up to date and correct whatever corrections are necessary. We have sold so far 2,000 copies. Roughly 2,000 copies direct marketing mainly of a specialized encyclopedia. This is unique! We are completely banned from Amazon. No libraries buy our book. Normally these specialty encyclopedias almost exclusively get bought by mid size and large libraries. There is no market really for it. But this one is such an amazing book. People read it cover to cover because every entry is just wonderful!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, I can attest to that. I can attest to that. One of those is getting into my home. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> We are getting off the track. We were with Jurgen Graf.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, well, we wanted to talk about., &#8230; But you know, this is great anyway because I did want you to give some of your own history. And in so doing this is what is going on. So that’s fantastic!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[20:42]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> And just that was created by this trio of Carlo Mattogno, Jurgen Graf and me. I’m putting it out, making it fit for publication, present it that is presentable and accessible. Jurgen Graf has done a lot of the translation work, at least for the German edition. And Carlo Mattogno is the heart and the engine of the whole operation with producing most of the stuff.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So one of these trio of massive revisionist, skeptical producers of hard hitting scholarly material has now died, unfortunately, just a week ago. And I’m very sad for that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I met him the last time in 2002. He came visit me with his wife. Back then I lived in Alabama, and he was with me for two weeks. We went hiking, we sang our German hiking songs and even back home we were having some campfire romance without the campfire, but the romance was there with singing folk songs. His wife Oda, Belarussian, and she is rooted into Russian tradition of Russian folk music. And there are some German folk music songs which have been translated or borrowed, should say, from Eastern European countries. They have a little bit of a Russian feel to them when it comes to the melody. And she loved it! Listening to music that sounded like home in the middle of America sung in the German language. A cultural mix that was quite amazing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, we had a good time, last time I met him in person. Wonderful fellow, dear friend and a genius when it comes to languages. Speaking Indonesian, Chinese and almost all of the European languages they can come up with. A fantastic fellow! Unfortunately a victim of cancer.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, I’ll add, I only got to know him and not in person, not face to face like you, just in the last couple of years because, and I think this is probably it turned out to be one of the last major pieces of work he did because he did become ill during this project. But he did translate my book “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong about the Holocaust</em>” into German. And we worked together on that. He would, because I do have a fairly good knowledge in German, he would send me chapter by chapter as he was translating. And I must say he does his translating work from his head. He does not use any computer translating, what do you call it, program? So it is, I think, very, very superior translation because he would just describe something the way one would say it in German, rather than sentence by sentence, just fixing the grammar or whatever. But really I think the German book turned out better because he made improvements and then the publisher did as well. So usually the translation of a book is not as good as the original, but in this case, that is not correct. I think the German book turned out better because of Jurgen Graf’s amazing work!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so each chapter he’d sent me, and then if he didn’t, I would read them, and if it didn’t quite get the gist of this or that in the telling, then I would give him my feedback and he would make the corrections to that, and then we’d send it off to the publisher bit by bit by bit.</p>
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<p>And I got to know this man, and not only is he a genius with knowing, I didn’t know that until a few days ago that he knew so many languages. Somebody told me 15 languages. I don’t know if that is correct, exact. But he obviously was a genius. He was a genius, but not only in the languages and also in his knowledge about historical events, but a very, very nice man! Good humor, just really sensitive. I have nothing but good things to say about this man. I’m going to pass it back to you, Germar, please.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yes, yes, absolutely! He was an artist when it comes to two languages. He would turn a book, a text in general that was a little dry, a little on the boring side, a little bit too technical, turned it into a text that was wonderful to read. He enlivened text with spirit! Sometimes he put in irony and sarcasm where I think it was deserved, because some of the material you have to deal with as a Holocaust skeptic is really absurd and sometimes even grotesque. Now, with scholarly text, you have to be careful with sarcasm and irony. And he was pushing it a little bit too much at times. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p>But when it comes to my. To my personal flavor, I would say:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Right on, give it to them!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>Sometimes I had to edit it out because the author didn’t want that. So he wants it to be dry because such a controversial topic, he doesn’t want to ruffle any feathers.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, other than that, yes, he constantly, systematically turned text into something that was better, that was more pleasant to read. So it was wonderful!</p>
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<p>He focused on translating from the 12 languages. German, French, English, Russian, Polish, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Spanish, Italian, you name it. He was roaming throughout Europe, and he would lecture in those languages live in those countries to audiences. This is amazing! You have to have this fluent ability to speak and express yourself expertly in all of these languages. And he taught many years German, I think, in other languages in Indonesia and in China. So he learned those languages too, along the process. So quite amazing! Quite amazing!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Germar, I have a question regarding the translating services that he did. The work that he did he translate in both directions? Like, for example, would he translate a German book into French or Italian or whichever other language? Did he do that, or did he mainly translate other languages into German?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[27:18]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> He could, but he refused to. He has done here and there, English text, but he knew that his command of those other languages is not on par level with what he expected the quality of his translations to be. Therefore, he usually refused to do that, and only when pushed would he agree to that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, mostly he would translate from those languages into German, and not the other way round.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think we’re gonna be at the break soon. And the original intent to invite you on my show was to speak about your latest adventures, or misadventures. But I am so glad that you were able to talk about Jurgen Graf, because you know him better than most of us, certainly a lot better than myself. And I just think this was very, very important to talk about him.</p>
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<p>And we will talk about some of the things that you, I think you were arrested. Why don’t you just start on that? And then when the break comes, we’ll go to the other side.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Well a little bit of the background. If people had humor in this country, you know, I’d say the cliche is the Germans don’t have humor because I tell people:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, because in Germany, humor is illegal. You can go to prison for it. Therefore, Germans are not inclined to make jokes.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I say:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The shortest German joke is ‘Auschwitz’, because the German word for joke is ‘witz’.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the last syllable of Auschwitz is the word witz. So Auschwitz is a witz. Auschwitz is a joke!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, wonderful!</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> You go to prison for that if you say that! And there are so many other <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span>, you make jokes about mass immigration, about minorities, you go to prison for that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you have a culture for decades, it started with Frederick the Great, and he started the censorship in Germany, and it’s been a tradition ever since. And it’s gotten worse and worse and worse with the first pinnacle, you can say, under the Nazis. And now in modern Germany, again.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> So Germar, we’ll carry on with this after the break and so I hope everybody hangs on and we’ll talk to you in a few minutes. Thank you.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[29:30]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[music]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[29:45]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[ad]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[36:01]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[music]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[36:43]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> All right, welcome back to The Flipside with Monika. I will give out the numbers now if you’d like to call in and join our conversation with our very special guest, Germar Rudolf. And the numbers are, 512-248-8252, or 1-800-313-9443.</p>
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<p>Now, I just want to say that what I have seen of just the accomplishments of Germar Rudolf is that he must be one of the hardest working people that I know. And it is just phenomenal, how in German there’s a word “<em>fleisig</em>”, he’s just very hard working man. And so I just want to thank him now publicly for all the work that he has done over the years, over the many years and paid quite a price for all that work.</p>
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<p>Now, Germar, I wrote you a letter and I don’t think you got that letter. And let me tell you where I sent that letter. I wrote it on December 27th and this is after our long mail strike in Canada. Finally, things were moving a little bit, although they were moving pretty slow, but I think you still wouldn’t have got it. I sent it on December 27th to Cattaraugus County Jail. Am I saying that right? Where is that? And what were you doing there? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> I was moved from there the day before. So you wrote it a day after I had been moved from there. So it would have been completely an effort in futility. Cattaraugus Jail, Cattaraugus County is, if I’m not mistaken, the West most county or one of the West most counties of upstate New York.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I was driving in my car west. I was planning to go to a dear friend of mine who had succumbed to cancer and was having health problems. And she was the last survivor of her family and had no one really. And I said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m coming over, I’m taking care of you. I can take my stuff with me and work from there and we’ll just have a good time, whatever time is left for you.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because she was terminal and they didn’t give her a lot of time, even though it turned out at the end it was even faster than they had predicted.</p>
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<p>Anyway, I was on the way there and I got pulled over by the police because there was allegedly an arrest warrant out for me for or some minor thing in a different state, that is to say Pennsylvania. And normally that is a non-extradition affair because for misdemeanors they don’t go through the hoops of making extraditions. It’s very complicated. It goes from one state to the next and it’s time intensive and cost intensive and usually they don’t do that. And actually my case was marked as non-extraditable. So they called the Pennsylvania prosecutors and evidently that changed their mind. And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yes, we want him.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And just on that note, I’m going to interject here. Do you think that this changing of their minds had anything to do with your volumes of work that you do? Even though this was on a completely unrelated trivial charge from a couple of years ago? What do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Pure speculation! Fact of the matter is, the case was two and a half years old. And in those two and a half years I have written an encyclopedia and the team I’m working with on marketing and all the rest of it, we had quite some success lately. As I mentioned, we have so far sold 2,000 copies to normal people for all walks of life. This is completely unusual!</p>
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<p>So we have two unusual things. Normally a person doesn’t sit down and writes an encyclopedia. That’s to say teamwork of many scholars usually and takes a long time. And I wrote that thing in just five months.</p>
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<p>So this is an unusual. A Singularity in history because I had all this knowledge already gathered and on my desk and right there at my fingertips. I was in a unique situation to be able to do that.</p>
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<p>And then I had all the energy after my family had collapsed. It’s a different drama story.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[40:59]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I’m very sorry. I’m very sorry.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yeah. That has a long story. I don’t want to go into detail, anyway.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> No, we don’t really have time to get into those.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Anyway. I was a caregiver of three children and ran a household. That was my primary thing. Revisionism, I was doing on the side.</p>
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<p>And then suddenly all this disappeared and I was without purpose and aim. And a good friend of mine gave me purpose and aim back by saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We need this encyclopedia because nobody can wrap their heads around this massive amount of work of 53 volumes. Impossible. You want to read it by the time you reach the middle you have already forgotten at the beginning!”</span></h3>
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<p>So I sat down, did it and then we got a good marketing strategy. It’s actually working! We’re breaking through all the censorship and blocking attempts of the enemy, going directly to the customer, circumventing anything of what they have put into the roadblocks there. Working wonderful!</p>
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<p>Does it have an impact? When I saw we’re having more success, I said to one of my associates:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Looking at past successes we ever had, knowing that as soon as we have success, the hammer falls. Some big move comes and they shut everything down.”</span></h3>
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<p>So something is coming our way. We don’t know yet what it’s going to be. Is it that? I don’t know. Behind the scenes, maybe it is, maybe it’s not so pure speculation at this point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, coming back to what the background is of, why is there an arrest warrant for me. Let me get back to the humor and try your American-Canadian humor. Talking about cultural collisions. So as an immigrant who, by the time I came, had a fairly good command of the English language already. Not perfect, but fairly good, what struck me, coming from England to America, one of the first things, driving in people’s cars, showing me the countryside, is that you guys park on driveways and drive on parkways. You people need to clean up your language! <span style="color: #008000;">[Monika’s laughing]</span></p>
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<p>So this is a joke. But no, there’s a second, and that’s where it gets serious. If I were to buy, as a boy, boy shorts and wear them as boy shorts, should that be acceptable?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> The boy shorts, you say, or body shorts? I didn’t quite catch that.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Boy shorts.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Okay. I’m in the habit of doing triathlons, and that time I was doing triathlons very early in the morning. It started, actually, when I was at the military. I rode my bicycle 20 miles to the barracks early in the morning. And I realized that normal bicycle clothes for men, almost everything, particularly the warmer ones for the wintertime, they’re all black! And back in the days, there were no LED lights.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But if you have LED light, it doesn’t matter. You have so little light on the bicycle. You have black clothes. You don’t get seen by cars. You could get run over. I had near collisions with cars because they weren’t seeing me a number of times. And I threw away all this standard clothes for cycling and went into a store to find gaudy clothes! Neon anything. Neon yellow, green, pink, whatever it is, I want to be seen because I don’t want to get run over!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> So that was prior to the Internet. I had to actually go to a store for sportswear, and I couldn’t find anything in the men’s department. I went to the women’s department. Rainbow colors, neon pink, neon green. Everything is there! Can’t find in the men’s departments, all black, gray, brown, dark blue. Suicide clothes! I’m not gonna wear this!</p>
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<p>So I went to the women’s department and got the shorts and the jogging pants there that have these gaudy colors. I don’t give a rat’s arse. There’s no sex assigned.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Besides just to remind, you were going at like early hours of the morning when it was still dark. That’s the idea.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Having coming to America the issue is that in the areas I lived initially it was as I mentioned in Alabama. But then in southern Pennsylvania, summers gets quite hot. Hotter than the summers are in Europe from what I’m used to.</p>
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<p>And if you go to triathlons, you don’t want to wear cyclopants which you can’t go swimming with and you can’t do jogging with. And I was doing also calisthenics. So I needed different clothes. We had the Internet, I went on the Internet and I wanted short legged shorts, gaudy colors. And I found online a pink pair of boy shorts. Wonderful! That’s exactly what I want. Can’t ride up. Keeps my thighs, where there’s massive heat from cycling is produced. Free. So that can cool. And what I didn’t know is that boy shorts is a type of women underwear!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I didn’t know that either.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yeah, boy shorts are for girls and girl shorts are for boys! Which brings us back to the yeah, so you can laugh. Everyone can laugh. The problem is some people cannot laugh. If I have pink boy shorts riding on a bicycle that has even pink emblazoned on it. And I don’t know that this is a prominent women’s underwear brand! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[46:11]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> So Germar, I have to just kind of cut in here because we’ve got to cut to the chase a little bit.</p>
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<p>And one thing that you told me on the phone, only because we’re running out of time, I’m enjoying this so much. Don’t get me wrong, this is a lot of fun. But we also do have a caller on the line. But I’ll bring him in soon. But not right away.</p>
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<p>But one thing you told me on the phone because the whole thing is you got charged with something, what do they call it, “<em>indecency</em>” or something?</p>
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<p>But you told me nothing was seen by anyone. Nothing! But wasn’t that something the prosecutor actually said?:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Nothing was seen by anyone.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> The police report said when they interviewed says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“They didn’t see any genitals, anything exposed.”</span></h3>
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<p>They charge me for indecent exposure anyway because of a case where they said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well even if nobody’s there and nothing is seen, if you expose yourself, you’re still doing indecent exposure.”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s a new case law and the legal profession is up in arms because that’s nonsense! Anyone pulling their pants down with no one around 4:00 in the middle of a night going pee. It’s also medically induced exposure.</p>
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<p>In other words, we all are guilty of it because at some point when we were hiking, we had to do some business. Indecent exposure, right there! If you confess to having done it, you’re done! It’s insane!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It is why I posed that rhetorical question. I’ll just say it was a rhetorical question. Do you think that all of this has anything to do with your actual work of publishing all these politically incorrect volumes and books?</p>
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<p>Now, just before we bring on Chance from West Virginia, and we’re not forgetting about you. Thank you. But where can people get your books and where can people go to find those things? Because we’ve talked a lot about the Holocaust Encyclopedia. I think it’s probably pretty straightforward, isn’t it?</p>
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<p>Now I’m going to put these things into my chat room, which is at Flipside Mo Chatango. I did put Codoh already in there for people who are visiting the chat room. But just tell us where they can get your books and then I’ll invite Chance onto the call.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yeah. The Holocaust Encyclopedia can be accessed, all the information free of charge and a version downloaded free of charge. Or you can buy either ebooks or printed books at holocaustencyclopedia.com Very easy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The Holocaust Handbooks, the 53 I mentioned can be had at holocausthandbooks.com. Very easy. Now if you go to Holocaust Encyclopedia, it has a link in the top menu it says bookstore. You click on that and you’ll get to the general bookstore, which is <a href="https://armreg.co.uk">armreg.co.uk.</a> Armreg is ARMREG. That’s kind of Germar backwards. It’s actually Gamra, so couldn’t make it quite fit because it is actually Academic Research Media Review and Education Group limited. That’s what it stands for. But it was designed to kind of be my first name backward because that’s the legacy.</p>
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<p>Anyway, these are the ways to get to the stuff. Just brief thing. Is there a link? Yes. When I was at my hearing two and a half years ago when they charged me with this, the prosecutor, when it was about bail or not, said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Not only do I have these weird habits of wearing weird clothes and gaudy colors and do stuff in the early morning, but I’m also an intellectual pervert because I’m the leading international Holocaust denier who dodges the law by running from one country to another. And that’s the reason why I shouldn’t be allowed to get bailed.”</span></h3>
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<p>So there you have it. Clear violation of First Amendment. Throwing stuff in there has nothing to do with it. And declaring me an intellectual pervert because I dare to single handedly write an encyclopedia. That’s perversion!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Bingo. There you have it. They’re trying to charge you with being a pervert. But it’s the intellectual pervert that they are calling you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, Chance from West Virginia. And we do have only a few minutes left and we’ve also got another caller on the line. So please give your comment or question for Germar.</p>
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<p><strong>Chance:</strong> Hello. Yes, yes, gutenab Monika and Herr Rudolf. I couldn’t believe Jurgen Graf has passed away. He’s only nine years older than me.</p>
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<p>Now, Mr. Rudolf, you rekindled my memory hearing Jurgen Graf’s name. I went to my personal library and I pulled out a book that I bought over to 20 years ago, if you can recall it. The Giant with Feet of Clay.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Of course. I published it. Yes.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Raul-Hilberg-1983-An-Incredible-Meeting-of-Minds.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-19378" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Raul-Hilberg-1983-An-Incredible-Meeting-of-Minds.jpg" alt="" width="738" height="976" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Raul-Hilberg-1983-An-Incredible-Meeting-of-Minds.jpg 738w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Raul-Hilberg-1983-An-Incredible-Meeting-of-Minds-227x300.jpg 227w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Chance:</strong> Yes. Raul Hilberg and his standard work on the Holocaust. Yes, and I like that phrase that Raul Hilberg made in the lower right hand corner of the book:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Superficiality is the major disease in the field of Holocaust studies.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Includes him!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Raul-Hilberg-and-his-book-The-Destruction-of-European-Jews.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-19379" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Raul-Hilberg-and-his-book-The-Destruction-of-European-Jews.jpg" alt="" width="725" height="972" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Raul-Hilberg-and-his-book-The-Destruction-of-European-Jews.jpg 725w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Raul-Hilberg-and-his-book-The-Destruction-of-European-Jews-224x300.jpg 224w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 725px) 100vw, 725px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Chance:</strong> Yes, yes. And can I ask you another question, Mr. Rudolf? You wrote a book in German with Sybil Schroeder, it says. I’m skimming through the book right. Now I’m going to reread it again to refresh my memory. I haven’t read it in 15 years. Do you still write with Sybil Schroeder?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Sibyl Schroeder was a pen name of Ingrid Weckert. And that was not a book, that was an article. And it was included as an introduction to the article on Einsatzgruppen murders in Dissecting the Holocaust. You can find it there.</p>
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<p><strong>Chance:</strong> Yes. It was written in the German language.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yeah. It’s translated in English, in Dissecting the Holocaust.</p>
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<p><strong>Chance:</strong> Yes. Yes. This book here, the Giant with Feet of Clay is, I think, the English edition is 2001, I believe. I purchased this book quite a while ago. And Jurgen Graf would have only been 73 or 74 years old when he passed away, correct?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yes, 73.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[52:21]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> He was born in 1951, so in August.</p>
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<p><strong>Chance:</strong> Rather young.</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Jurgen-Graf-The-Giant-with-Feet-of-Clay-2002-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-37134" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Jurgen-Graf-The-Giant-with-Feet-of-Clay-2002--1024x794.jpg" alt="" width="597" height="463" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Jurgen-Graf-The-Giant-with-Feet-of-Clay-2002--1024x794.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Jurgen-Graf-The-Giant-with-Feet-of-Clay-2002--600x465.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Jurgen-Graf-The-Giant-with-Feet-of-Clay-2002--768x596.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Jurgen-Graf-The-Giant-with-Feet-of-Clay-2002--1536x1192.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Jurgen-Graf-The-Giant-with-Feet-of-Clay-2002-.jpg 1650w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 597px) 100vw, 597px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> The Giant with Feet of Clay exists now in a new edition that was put out just two and a half years ago. Updated and you can find it as I mentioned on <a href="https://armreg.co.uk">armreg.co.uk.</a> You search for “<em>giant</em>”, and boom, there it is.</p>
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<p><strong>Chance:</strong> If I may ask you real quick before I hang up, if you don’t mind. What part of Germany are you from?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Northwest of Frankfurt. That’s where I was born and grew up.</p>
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<p><strong>Chance:</strong> My relatives are from the Black Forest region, originally.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Okay, Chance, I’m going to let you go. Not to be rude, but we do have several more callers in just a few minutes left. Thank you very much for calling.</p>
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<p>So, Joe from Florida, are you there? Mr. Producer? Yeah, is that Joe? Hello?</p>
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<p><strong>Joe:</strong> Hey, Monika, thanks for taking my call.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, all right. Do you have a question?</p>
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<p><strong>Joe:</strong> Yeah, real quick. By the way, I just want to validate what Germar was saying. I’m a crazy addicted man who’s a bike rider and I know exactly what he means about wearing light clothes at night. I totally identify, just FYI. So I validate that.</p>
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<p>But here’s the thing. It’s my opinion, Germar, that you are, and Monika and the great Ernst Zundel, you have all done the thing, which is, in my opinion, you have paid great tribute to your ancestors. Okay? And speaking as somebody with Swiss German heritage, we need to honor you and for you and for Monika and somebody like Ernst Zundel.</p>
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<p>But it’s interesting. I want to see your idea. It seems as though it was almost necessary for each of you in your own way to actually get out of the homeland, get out of Germany in order to be free enough and courageous, I have to say, to write and do the work that you’ve done that has done such great tribute to your ancestors, who were very viciously maligned by the jewish Mafia in this country and in Germany, which they controlled. What do you think about this idea that it was necessary to emigrate?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> This is a German tradition. Karl Marx had to go to England to write his books. He couldn’t do it in Germany.</p>
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<p>Now, that’s the polar opposite of maybe, in a way, but there is a tradition. There were German Professors who were fighting for national unification of Germany in the 1840s. And they all had to leave Germany, or many of them, because they were persecuted and they had brought to work from outside Germany. Unfortunately, that is tradition that comes with a tradition of censorship and oppression in Germany that has been there for centuries. It’s not a domain of National Socialism. It’s a domain of German culture and tradition unfortunately. People do not fight for their freedom of speech. They are easy to submit to government demands of ratting out neighbors and thinking pretty correct. And forming a lynch mob against dissidents. That’s an unfortunate tradition in Germany, I must say.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, so that’s a very good observation, Joe, that you make, first of all, about people leaving to be able to speak, and also about honoring our ancestors. And sorry to let you go, but thank you for your call.</p>
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<p><strong>Joe:</strong> Thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And I’ll take another caller. And we just have a very short amount of time. Barbie from, I’ve lost where you’re from, but please, Mr. Producer, could you bring on. Yes, Washington, D.C.</p>
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<p><strong>Barbie:</strong> It’s Barbie from Washington, D.C.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Barbie Novak!</p>
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<p><strong>Barbie:</strong> Yes, I want to talk about the nudity. And I wanted to stick up for him because I was a nude model in Washington, Las Vegas.</p>
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<p>My art teacher from Harvard was a nude teacher. I’ve taken lessons with her. And she gave me three of her paintings. I bought one. I have three nude males in my storage. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> You know what I mean? And it’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“What are they doing to him?”</span></h3>
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<p>Now the one thing is, I was going to sell those three paintings. No one on Ebay wanted them. They would give a million dollars for a nude female. Zero. They don’t even exist.</p>
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<p>So I think you’re being prejudiced against because you’re a male and nude. And I love to be at your trial! I love to speak up for you! I’ll bring my three paintings, my nude males with me.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Germar, please, can you tell people where and when the trial is that that she could come?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> It’s not scheduled yet. It’s not scheduled yet. The schedule may happen in late February, so I don’t know yet. When it comes to this, I’ve gotten in contact with people who call themselves nudists and naturists. And the first encounter I had after these things, and I found out I didn’t even know what that means. And I happened to live together with a guy who called himself naturist. And I must say, I’m neither of these things. I have a completely relaxed German attitude to my body. I think that the natural state of anyone’s body can’t be a crime in itself. It depends on what you do with it.</p>
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<p>But I’m just coming from a different culture and I’m thoughtlessly changing in public from one pants to another without thinking anything, because that’s what everyone does in Germany. And I didn’t realize initially it’s a problem in this country. Even though it is not a sexual activity, it’s not indecent exposure. It’s decent exposure for a few seconds to change! And there are other things that are going on. I don’t do these things intentionally. It was cultural collision because it’s just different in Germany.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I like that word. We’re going to end on that “<em>cultural collision</em>”.</p>
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<p>And of course you know your intellectual <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> activities that they didn’t like. Thank you so much, Germar. Thank you to the listeners and the callers and thank you to the producer. And we will catch you next week. Thank you everybody.</p>
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<h3 id="TT3-07"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> RBN Comments</span></h3>
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<p>Blewitt<br />
January 18, 22:31<br />
I first learned of Holocaust Revisionism from a book written in the 1970s. This book was _The Hoax of the Twentieth Century_ by Arthur Butz, who was a professor of electrical engineering at Northwestern University.</p>
<p>kati<br />
January 19, 09:04<br />
im living near Hannover in germany, von der Leyen is near me here, we are said to be the most humorless in germany, stocksteif hochdeutsch thats what we are, wir gehen zum Lachen in den Keller is a saying we have here, we are serious by nature. Even the most nothern germans at the coast have more humour, south germans sure anyway always, or famous rheinländisch humour, thats not the case here, we go into the basement if we have to laugh.</p>
<p>kati<br />
January 19, 09:21<br />
Gemma oDoherty did a 2 hour talk with Germar too, highly recommended, and Kevin Barrett too, sure he tells the story more detailed when he is over 2 hours at them.<br />
Imho the police did a trap on him, it was on purpose they got him, Germar should be careful in future he does not run into another trap.<br />
And his experience in the jail was pure nightmare for me, they put him on purpose to the blacks, i would be rather with turks together but never blacks, thats the worst. Here in germany the prisons are mostly filled with these, but Alfred sure made that experience. My record is clean, i keep my opinions private, if i had to go to prison here in germany i would lose the last bit i have.<br />
Thanks for the show like always very amazing und Grüße aus Deutschland!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; [In this new book, by a well-known “Holocaust” Revisionist, Jurgen Graf, the planned &#8220;slow-motion&#8221; extermination of the White race by the globalists (aka, Organized jewry) using the socially engineered below replacement birth rates, mass Third World immigration and various &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2017/02/06/book-white-world-awake-stopping-the-planned-extermination-of-our-volk/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this new book, by a well-known “<em>Holocaust</em>” Revisionist, <strong>Jurgen Graf</strong>, the planned &#8220;<em>slow-motion</em>&#8221; extermination of the White race by the globalists (aka, Organized jewry) using the socially engineered below replacement birth rates, mass Third World immigration and various other methods is described. In the introduction Graf talks about how he became involved in &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; revisionism and how the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; is used to demoralize and guilt Whites into passively accepting their racial and cultural destruction </span><span style="color: #008000;">— KATANA.]</span></p>
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<h1 align="CENTER"><span style="color: #ff0000;">White World Awake!</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Stopping the Planned Extermination</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">of Our Volk</span></h1>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;">By JURGEN GRAF</h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>TRANSLATED by DR. FREDRICK TOBEN</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>EDITED by JOHN R TIFFANY</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Copyright 2016 by Jurgen Graf &amp;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">WHITE WORLD WORLD Awake!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Stopping the Planned Extermination of Our Volk</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">BY JURGEN GRAF</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">THE BARNES REVIEW 2016</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;">AUTHOR’S DEDICATION</h3>
<p style="text-align: center;">To my mother Valentina Ivanova, dedicated with love and gratitude.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">— JORGEN GRAF</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">September 2016</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;">PUBLISHER’S DEDICATION</h3>
<p style="text-align: center;">This book is dedicated to the White race, whose very existence is on the brink of extinction. It is our hope that this book’s contents in some way can help to make more people aware this disturbing situation and work together to make it a prominent public issue. Certainly the loss of any individual race on this planet is a great tragedy, but the extinction of a race with such a noble and prolific history such as ours would be globally catastrophic.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">— THE BARNES REVIEW</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">September 2016</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">From the Publisher</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><b><i>White World Awake!</i></b></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><b><i>Stopping the Planned Extermination of Our Volk</i></b>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Western civilization is in desperate peril. White people — our volk — are in trouble. The question of the day — and very likely the question of the millennium — is whether Europe will survive—and with it its American, Canadian, Australian and South African cousins — and, if so, how?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Seeking to answer those questions is a very important new book, <b><i>White World Awake! Stopping the Planned Extermination of Our Volk</i></b>. Those who seek the truth will find the truth in the pages of this book, and those looking for a practical plan of action will find that as well.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">For too long, observes the author, White people have fought among themselves. The European Union and NATO are failed efforts to correct that situation. Europe faces an existential threat with tsunamis of unassimilable Africans, Middle Easterners and Asians swarming in. Russians, Britons, Frenchmen, Germans and Poles, Serbs and Croats, Romanians, Finns and Greeks, Spaniards and Hungarians are all in the same rickety boat.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">The time has come for Europe to speak with one nationalist voice on military and foreign policy matters, while it is equally necessary for each nation and ethnic group to preserve its distinctive language and culture, and for historical injustices to be discussed openly.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">A Eurasian Federation is proposed, which, like Old America, will not interfere in other parts of the world except to provide humanitarian aid and ensure the safety of such places as Armenia and Georgia against any immigration threat.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Traitor politicians who see no problem in allowing Europe and other White nations to be transformed into mixed-race caliphates — a dream of the mysterious <b>Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi</b> — will be voted out of office.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Many of the solutions apply equally to the rest of the White World. “<i>Close the borders! Stop the flood!</i>” is key not only for Europe, but America and all other White areas of the world. Thus Graf lays out a practical 10-step program to stop the genocide of the West starting with Europe, the cradle of White Western civilization.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">This is a book that needs and deserves to be in the hands of every concerned person who cares about the future of the Western world.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">TABLE OF CONTENTS</span></h3>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Introduction: How to Become a Dissident &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 7</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">1 The Red Bird from the Danube Delta &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 39</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">2 Conspiracy Theories? &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. 55</span></strong></p>
<p>3 The Plan &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. 71</p>
<p>4 Intelligence and Development &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 93</p>
<p>5 The Blessings of Multiculturalism &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. 109</p>
<p>6 Battle of Ethnicities and Cultures &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. 133</p>
<p>7 The Cost of Suicide &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. 159</p>
<p>8 The Plan to Destroy Sweden &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. 171</p>
<p>9 The Decline of the U.S.A. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. 185</p>
<p>10 Two Types of Weights and Double Standards &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. 199</p>
<p>11 The Destructive Principle &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 211</p>
<p>12 The Foundation of the New World Order &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 237</p>
<p>13 Homosexual Propaganda &amp; Gender Mainstreaming &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 319</p>
<p>14 Infanticide in the Mother’s Womb &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. 337</p>
<p>15 The Locusts by Thomas Brookes &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 345</p>
<p>16 The Battering Ram of the New World Order &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. 365</p>
<p>17 The Ukrainian Scenario &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 401</p>
<p>18 The Henchmen &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. 445</p>
<p>19 What to Do? &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. 473</p>
<p>20 After the Storm &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.… 489</p>
<p>21 Afterword: Coloring the White World &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. 505</p>
<p>Bibliography &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. 522</p>
<p>Name Index &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. 531</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;">Jurgen Graf</h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">INTRODUCTION</span></h3>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">How To Become a Dissident</span></h1>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">“<i>C’est quily a de terrible quand on cherche la verite, c’est qu’on la trouve.</i>”</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">“<i>The terrible thing is that those who seek the truth will find the truth.</i>”</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">— French biologist and scientist FELIX LE DENTEC (1869-1917)</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>When, at age 62, I reflect on my life, it appears to me that the first 35 years were nothing, but a preparation for future tasks. I still thank my teachers at the <b>Basel Humanist High School</b>, who gave me a general education. In my following education I obtained language qualifications that became indispensable to me. Since my 9th, or 10th year, I have always had a passionate interest in politics and history, and this interest was to determine my life’s journey. Early in life, in matters of national defense and foreign affairs, I was right wing, where “‘<em>right wing</em>” was essentially “‘<em>anti-communist.</em>” I had not quite consciously experienced the 1956 Hungarian uprising, but the construction of the Berlin Wall and the Cuban crisis were indelibly imprinted on my consciousness. The Soviet tanks in Prague and Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s <b><i>Gulag Archipelago</i></b>, which I devoured, convinced me that the current battle was against eastern totalitarianism. Until the beginning of perestroika, I was firmly convinced of a &#8230;, perestroika, I was firmly convinced of a possibly inevitable Soviet occupation of Western Europe. Inevitably. my favorite politician was Franz Josef Strauss, the baroque Bavarian ancient colossus who incessantly warned Western civil society of the impending Red danger. Only sometime later was I able to revise my undifferentiated anti-communism and anti-Soviet Unionism- and as before in other matters — to correct my historical and world views.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At the same time, from the beginning I always stood left of center in social justice matters, and my anti-communism did not, for example, prevent me in the least from supporting the 1972 submitted Communist Party of Work initiative to grant a Volks pension, which was massively rejected at the referendum. The fact that on some points I could unhesitatingly support a right-wing and a left-wing position was proof for me that we lived in a dynamic democracy. I believed that there was no alternative to democratic capitalism; the deficiencies within the system would step-by-step be solved. All in all, I believed I was living in the best of all possible worlds.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, quite early in my life that I realized that even this best of all possible political words could not do without a taboo, or two, of which the strongest concerned the topic of “<i>the Third Reich and the Jews.</i>” Just as in most European countries, in Switzerland during my childhood a pervasive anti-German climate was propagated by most of the media. During that time there were two daily newspapers in Basel: The left-wing <b><i>National Zeitung</i></b> was most noted for venomously inciting against Germans, while the right-wing <b><i>Basler Nachrichten</i></b> remained more reserved in its diatribe against Germans.</p>
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<p>My father, Friedrich Graf, was a Swiss citizen born in the Ruhr Valley, and we had numerous relatives there whom we visited regularly. This is why from childhood I had a friendly disposition toward Germans, and I could not understand why the German people collectively were held responsible for crimes committed by the National Socialist government. However, not for a second did I question the historical reality of the crimes, especially that of the industrialized extermination of the Jewish people. After all, I had never come across a book, or a newspaper article in which the conventional version of events had been questioned, much less have someone cross my path who disputed the Nazi atrocities. Even my father, who had spent the entire war years in Germany, accepted the conventional version of events, except to insist that only since 1945 had he heard about the gas chambers.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It thus became quite clear to me: In a deceptive blinding ideological fit of madness, the National Socialist regime committed horrendous crimes of which its people were totally unaware, and for which they collectively stood accused. This offended my early childhood sense of justice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That the government of Germany constantly and abjectly apologized for its Nazi past, and threw Israel ever new reparations down its insatiable throat, was disconcerting for me as much as the German media’s seeming obsession with dragging its own people into the dirt. Likewise, I found the Nazi war crime trials, 10 or more years after war’s end, repulsive.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>A key event was the murky drama of the <strong>Majdanek Trial</strong>, which began in Dusseldorf in Nov. 1975 and dragged out until June 1981. Charged before the court stood former wardens of the Majdanek concentration camp, among them a number of women, who were accused of having participated in the gassing and shooting of Jewish prisoners. The trial forced the Federal Republic of Germany to renewed submissive penance rituals and offered the media a welcomed opportunity to redouble its hate campaign against its own people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I could not then foresee that decades later I, together with Italian researcher <strong>Carlo Mattogno</strong>, would publish a book about Majdanek,<b> [1] </b>but I followed the proceedings with growing irritation. Although I had not the slightest sympathy for these accused individuals, I saw no sense in bringing to court three decades later a handful of scapegoats who had participated in this murderous struggle between nations that produced over 50 million casualties. This was all the more worrisome, because it was always Germans who had been accused of committing crimes: not a single individual of the victors was tried, for example, for the senseless destruction of militarily insignificant Dresden, the dropping of the atomic bombs on a capitulating Japan, the brutal ethnic cleansing of the old east Germany and Sudetenland, nor the <strong>Katyn Massacre</strong>. It seemed to me that I was the only one who saw the futility of holding such trials. After the Majdanek trial began, I attended the reading room of the University of Basel in order to follow the reporting of this trial by the national and international press. There seemed no differentiated evaluation of the procedures, which were clearly stated as being necessary; the only criticism was made of the West German judiciary for having unnecessarily delayed the opening of the trial.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In order to obtain a different view of things to that offered by the anti-German <b><i>Basler Blattes</i></b>, I had to read Munich’s much maligned “<i>right-wing</i>” <b><i>National Zeitung,</i></b> which I could buy at the Basel Railway Station.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Biting criticism in this newspaper was leveled against the Germans coming to terms with their past and with their Nazi trials, but even this newspaper did not question the reality of mass extermination at Majdanek and other camps. It only objected to having such trials against Germans only, and pointed out the inherent danger of witnesses not recalling exactly what they had experienced and so perjuring themselves, which increased the risk of a flawed judgment. That only an extreme “<i>right wing</i>” non-mainstream newspaper had the courage to state such fundamental truths irritated me no end. I comforted myself by hoping that the whipped up hysteria would die down as the events of World War II would, with each passing year, inevitably slip further into the past. How was I to know then that the mystery play of German executioners and Jewish victims, who in their millions marched into gas chambers disguised as showers, was created for eternity? [Note: there are two <b><i>National Zeitungs</i></b>, the German one and a Swiss paper of the same name, but different politics. — Ed.]</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At the end of Dec. 1978 I first became acquainted with the Revisionist thesis that radically questioned the usual version of the Jewish fate during World War II. At that time, I regularly read <b><i>Le Monde</i></b>, because this paper reported in detail about the state of affairs in Indochina. Vietnam had marched into Cambodia, and the Khmer Rouge was about to collapse. The genocide of the Pol Pot regime perpetrated on his own people was often compared to the extermination of the Jews by the Nazis. And now in <b><i>Le Monde</i></b> I came upon an article by a French professor of literature, <strong>Robert Faurisson</strong>, who made the assertion that the Nazi gas chambers were a myth, a fiction of propaganda. <strong>[2]</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This article almost caused me physical discomfort, which lasted for some days. It was obvious that this professor was no fool; he offered factual arguments. The significant paragraph was the following:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Anyone who today visits Auschwitz, or Majdanek will find places designated as &#8216;gas chambers,&#8217; in wherein each gassing would have led to a catastrophe for the perpetrator and for the environment. A mass killing by gas must not be confused with a suicide, or accidental death through gas. To gas a single prisoner, the Americans use a volatile gas, in a small room, in which the gas is extracted and neutralized after the completed execution. How then could, for example, at Auschwitz, 2,000, yes, 3,000 people be piled into 210 (!) square meters, then insert granules of the commonly used and highly toxic insecticide Zyklon B, and then, immediately after the death of the victims, send a group of workers, who do not wear gas masks, into the room saturated with hydrogen cyanide in order to pull out the cyanide saturated corpses?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Later I asked myself why I had not then contacted Faurisson. Essentially, I had the ideal prerequisites to become a Revisionist: I was friendly toward Germans, the self flagellation of the Federal Republic’s elite was abhorrent to me, and I had not the slightest guilt feelings toward Jews. Had I taken that compelling step then, my life would have taken a different course. But for that step I simply did not yet have the maturity. I was not prepared to dare to approach such a touchy subject and to possibly realize that the system in which I lived was a monstrous lie that was defended by a perfectly functioning censorship. And so I comforted myself with Christian Morgenstern’s <b><i>Palmstrom</i></b>, wherein it is stated, “<i>that which cannot be, must not be,</i>” <strong>[3]</strong> and I decided to forget the matter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On Jan. 16, 1979 in <b><i>Le Monde</i></b>, and in reply to some articles of his opponents, Faurisson was able to publish an opposing view, which I apparently did not read, at least I cannot recall reading it. Likewise, I cannot recall the Feb. 21, 1979 declaration in <b><i>Le Monde</i></b> of 34 French historians, which produced the following disarming argument into the field:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“One must not ask oneself how, technically, such a mass murder was possible. It was technically possible, since it happened. That is the requisite starting point for any historical enquiry into the subject It is incumbent upon us to state this truth simply: there is not, there cannot be any debate on the existence of the gas chambers.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Only 12 years later did I receive this prime example of intellectual brilliance. But let us not get ahead of the events.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In July 1982 I embarked on a trip to East Asia. A year later I found a position as a lecturer in German in Taiwan where I remained until May 1988. After my return to Switzerland, I immediately noticed that my country had changed. This was in connection with the increasing number of immigrants that had come into Switzerland during my six-year absence. These new immigrants were not the familiar Italians and Spaniards of my childhood. Most immigrants came from foreign continents. The countless house facades smeared with Turkish slogans attests to that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Obviously, non-European immigrants have always been a part of our society. During 1980 and 1981, I supported Vietnamese refugees and never once regretted doing so. The Vietnamese behaved as one would expect of them: they respected our laws and endeavored as quickly as possible to find a job so as not to become a burden upon the host nation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, only less than a decade later, things looked different in Switzerland. By abusing our asylum laws, which enabled politically persecuted foreigners to seek refuge in Switzerland, a stream of economic immigrants flooded across the borders. The absolute majority was Turkish citizens of Kurdish background; the second largest group were the Tamils from Sri Lanka, where the rebel organization the Tamil Tigers had been fighting an underground war against the majority Singhalese government. The remainder of the asylum seekers came from Yugoslavia (where ever-increasing ominous warning signals of impending atrocities arose), Lebanon, the Indian subcontinent outside of Sri Lanka (India, Pakistan and Bangladesh), as well as three African countries (Ghana, Zaire and Angola). A few Iranians and Afghans as well as some individual from diverse East European countries rounded out the picture.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>After my return home to Switzerland, it seemed that fate gave me the first job, the role of an asylum adviser. Switzerland had established various reception centers for asylum seekers, one being located on the Rhine steamer <b><i>Basilea</i></b>, where on Aug. 8, 1988 I began my work. Very early into my job I had the feeling that I was in a typical Franz Kafka novel wherein the laws of logic had been suspended.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In order to apply for asylum in Switzerland two avenues were offered to foreigners: Either they applied at a Swiss embassy, or consulate in their home country, or they applied at a reception center in Switzerland. Few made use of the first possibility: It was implausible to enter a Swiss embassy freely, then claim political persecution. Thus the second avenue was to register at a reception center that — with the exception of Yugoslavia — required asylum seekers from all other countries to possess a Swiss entry visa, without which they could not legally cross into Switzerland. And so they entered Switzerland illegally and thus began their residence with a legal infraction.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>After their registration, the asylum seekers remained from 7 to 10 days on the ship. After their interrogation they had to await instructions as to which canton they would be sent. Each canton was required to take asylum seekers according to their population number. The questioning of asylum seekers, often done through interpreters, focused on three points: personal information, travel route and flight reasons.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Problems already began at the first point. While Turkish and Yugoslavian asylum seekers could usually produce parts of a passport, or identity card, on the <strong><i>Basilea</i></strong> I do not recall ever having seen a Sri Lankan, Indian, Pakistani, or Ghanaian passport. Upon crossing to Switzerland, these applicants had lost their papers, or their handler had taken the documents from them. So it was impossible for the interviewer to ascertain whether the statements made were true, or not. Such statements were most likely not true in 99% of the cases.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The reason why these illegal immigrants had “<i>lost</i>” their papers was, because most of them had crossed to Switzerland from Germany where they had already applied for political asylum, and had been rejected. Others did not even wait for their application to be assessed in Germany, but secretly entered Switzerland where the work prospects were greater and the social security payments were higher. This negated their right to apply for Swiss asylum. Hence, without exception, the Sri Lankans, Indians, Ghanaians etc., asserted that they had entered Switzerland via Italy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That this was not true became obvious because-again the exception being the Turks who crossed over to Switzerland via Italy — they could not describe the places where they allegedly crossed to Switzerland. I vividly recall a refugee from Bangladesh, who answered my question as to how he could possibly have swum across the huge river at, possibly have swum across the huge river at the Italian-Swiss border, which I had made up. He claimed his passport had become so wet that he had to throw it away. In a normally functioning state such a person would have been placed on the first available flight back to his country — but our asylum-seeking procedures could not be called normal. How was it possible that a large Gypsy family from Serbia — whose patriarch gave as a reason for his “<em>flight</em>” that his children were constantly teased at school — obtained the right to an extensive and expensive asylum procedure!?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The most absurd aspect of such procedures was the following: Our borders were manned by officers whose task it was to apprehend and to return illegal immigrants. Those who carried with them passports, or identity cards had these stamped with an “<em>R,</em>” for “<em>refused.</em>” However, if an illegal immigrant succeeded in tricking the officers, then he had won the game: Without hindrance he could travel by train to the next reception center where he could submit his asylum request which enabled him automatically to gain a residence permit until a decision on his application had been made. Once a Lebanese came to the <strong><i>Basilea</i></strong> who had more than half a dozen “<em>R’s</em>” stamped in his document. Six times he had been caught attempting to cross the Italian-Swiss border, but the seventh time he was lucky in convincing the Swiss officer to let him in. In such cases these border guards were sentenced to the “<em>work of Sisyphus.</em>”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Officially, the Swiss state behaved like a schizophrenic who constructs a fence around his house, but then loudly proclaims that anyone who can get over the fence is rewarded by unhindered entry to the home.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The real politically persecuted were found amongst the Turks who could show you physical evidence of torture on their bodies. At a point in time I conducted my own private statistics, which enabled me to conclude that in view of the asylum laws about 5% – 9% of Turkish asylum seekers were indeed political refugees. These private statistics were later confirmed through 1988 official figures: 5 – 4% of Turkish asylum seekers had obtained asylum. The remainder were economic refugees who had fled their own country’s harsh economic problems. As they could not gain entry in normal ways, they had to lie and invent persecution stories. The police were after them, because they had belonged to prohibited left-wing parties and had painted slogans on walls, or distributed leaflets.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I did not harbor any antagonistic feelings toward these Anatolian farmers and shepherds, with whose situation I could quite easily empathize. A certain antipathy was aroused in me by asylum seekers from Africa and the Indian subcontinent: First, such asylum seekers obviously belonged to the middle class (for a representative of this class from Angola, or Pakistan, even the cheapest flight was out of their reach) and, second, the detailed, but easily discerned fabricated stories that these gentlemen had made up stories about their persecution irritated me to no end. The success rates among these nationals were practically zero. Slightly different was the case with the Tamils and their claim to political persecution through the partisan activity of the Tamil Tigers, as well as the government’s reprisals. This was a ground for them not to be sent back to their home whenever an application was rejected. That these Tamils could resettle 30 km north of Sri Lanka, in the Indian state of Tamii Nadu, never crossed the minds of our asylum politicians.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>After their first interview on the <strong><i>Basilea</i></strong>, each asylum seeker was assigned to a place of residence, where, after a while, he was subjected to a second and more in-depth interview as to his flight motives. This, together with the first interview, then became the basis on which a decision was made on his asylum application. As a result of the number of applications and the lack of qualified personnel, the procedure could take up to a year before a decision was made. Throughout this time the asylum seeker was supported by the Swiss state. After a rejection of his application, the applicant usually appealed; naturally, this did not occur without a Swiss lawyer, whose fees were paid by Swiss refugee organizations. Quite a few lawyers became rich through this procedure. Besides the social workers and the full-time Turkish, Arabic, Urdu and Tamil translators, the lawyers were also among those who profited from the misery Swiss asylum politics had become.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Generally, while the asylum seeker’s application was afoot, it was common for those with families to have their wives and children follow them, and to have their children enrolled in schools immediately. Then, after a “<i>final</i>” rejection of an asylum seeker’s application had been processed, the lawyers would object on the grounds that the children were already attending school and to return an applicant to their home country was a “<i>callous</i>” act. The argument usually succeeded in quashing the deportation order. And so the asylum law had become a <i>de facto</i> avenue for uncontrolled Third World migrants to enter Switzerland.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>After two, or three months’ work on the <strong><i>Basilea</i></strong>, I wrote a long letter to the then-refugee commissioner, Peter Arbenz, and made specific suggestions how the procedure could be expedited. I received a polite, but non-committal reply.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At this time, I was still under the impression that those responsible for Swiss asylum politics were honest, but weak and timid individuals who, on grounds of their fearful panic of the left-leaning aggressive asylum lobby and the media, did not have the character strength to adopt effective measures to control the influx of refugees. That this Third World migration would have a terrible effect on Switzerland was inevitable, but the media behaved like the three famous monkeys: the first didn’t say anything, the second didn’t see anything and the third didn’t hear anything.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Constantly we heard that our “<i>humanitarian principles</i>” and “<i>human rights</i>” demanded we take in as many asylum seekers as possible and any question about the limits of our capacity to absorb more asylum seekers was not raised in the media. Quite early on I noticed that journalists writing for the various newspapers loudly advocated “<i>humanitarian principles</i>” and “<i>human rights</i>”, but applied them only to the immigrants, not to the indigenous Swiss. That the once effective class instruction in our school system was breaking down on account of large numbers of students not speaking the required language did not in the least interest our “<i>free press</i>”; not a single journalist regarded such a state of affairs as a violation of our students’ human rights. Protests were even organized against the deportation of drug dealers, on the ground that upon their return to their home country they could be politically persecuted. And when our drug-dependent youngsters died miserably in railway station toilets, those working in the media extended no empathetic understanding toward such individuals. Such individuals did not have any human rights, because they were just Swiss native citizens.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Just as I had followed the media reports on the <strong>Majdanek Trial</strong> in disbelief 13 years earlier, I now had to take note that, except for a few non-establishment papers, all media outlets specifically offered disinformation. except now it was a fundamental question concerning the future of our country. Again, I recognized quite early that there was a connection between these seemingly completely different questions — the Nazi crimes against the Jews and the mass migration to Switzerland — because it was stressed again and again in justifying a generous Swiss asylum program that Jewish refugees, who had been refused entry at the Swiss border during World War II, were sent to their certain death.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I felt growing anger at the asylum lobby, the journalists and the politicians who drew unjustified parallels with what happened then and now in order to torpedo a reform of our asylum policies. For me it was absurd and a sign of moral bankruptcy to bring into the discussion about foreigners and our asylum politics the Third Reich, which had disappeared 43 years ago, as a justification for implementing institutionalized censorship.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At the end of January 1989, I resigned from my position on the <strong><i>Basilea</i></strong> and began writing a book, which appeared a year later with the title <b><i>Das Narrenschiff: Als Asylantenbefrager auf der Basilea</i></b>. Naturally, without mentioning names, I clearly exposed and cited from questionnaires, and made the following suggestion:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Each asylum seeker is to be questioned by a group of three experts on the reasons for fleeing from his home country. A decision is then made on the spot whether to accept, or reject the asylum seeker’s application. If the three individuals unanimously agree that with reference to the Swiss asylum law there are really no valid refugee grounds, the applicant is immediately returned to their home country. Otherwise the matter is referred for further, closer inspection.</span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Introducing tightened procedures such as this would have enabled us to repatriate about 90% of asylum seekers, which would ever so quickly filter through to the countries of origin that Switzerland would not accept economic refugees anymore. Within a few weeks this would have stopped the flow of refugees and we would have become masters of the problem. That this was not the desired outcome became clear to me. I had finally understood that our asylum seeker policy had nothing to do with lack of courage, or stupidity on the responsible politicians’ behalf, because so much lack of courage and stupidity was not what it could be about. Also, the parallel development of policies in neighboring countries excluded such a coincidence. It soon became clear to me why the elites of Western Europe were interested in receiving an influx of asylum seekers from foreign cultures and races.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thanks in large measure to a massive advertising campaign by <strong>Dr. Ulrich Schluer</strong>, the publisher of the right-wing conservative newspaper <b><i>Schweizerzeit</i></b>, the book <b><i>Das Narrenschiff</i></b> sold quite well, and in 1990 a second edition appeared. If I recall, around 6,000 copies were sold. I became known in patriotic circles. It was through the publication of this book that a number of Swiss Democrats — previously known as <b>National Action for People and Homeland</b> — invited me to address them.</p>
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<p>In March 1991, at such an evening’s event, I met the retired secondary teacher <b>Arthur Vogt</b>, with whom I had earlier exchanged some correspondence. At one time, while reading through a number of newspapers, I had come upon a letter written by Vogt wherein he bitterly complained about the “<i>suicidal asylum politics.</i>” Vogt was not unknown to me, because in 1970 he had made headlines when, after supporting the James Schwarzenbach initiative that pressed for a citizen initiated referendum on “<i>Being Swamped by Foreigners</i>,” he was expelled from the Social Democratic Party. I had sent him a copy of my book and then invited him to attend my address at the Swiss Democrats in Zurich. At this conference we arranged to meet again in the middle of April, in Zurich, Vogt introduced himself as a Revisionist and handed me a copy of <b><i>The Leuchter Report</i></b> about the alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek, as well as a cassette and text titled <b><i>The Holocaust — Legend or Reality?</i></b> which also later appeared in printed form and today is available on the Internet.</p>
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<p>That very evening I listened to this tape, and although Vogt’s deliberations had not quite convinced me, and countless questions remained unanswered, I experienced a serious shock. My somewhat critical attitude toward the system in which I lived did not now permit me — as I had done 12 and a half years earlier after reading the Faurisson article in <b><i>Le Monde</i></b> — to shield myself with an armor of slovenly thinking against undesirable truths. Vogt’s text contained an abundance of verifiable facts that caused any thinking person to be amazed. I was especially perplexed that the founder of Revisionism was not a German, but a Frenchman, who was also a resistance fighter — <strong>Paul Rassinier</strong>, a former prisoner of the Buchenwald and Dora-Mittelbau concentration camps. How was that even possible?</p>
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<p>The next day I began reading <b><i>The Leuchter Report</i></b>. The author, the American execution expert <strong>Fred Leuchter</strong>, had been responsible for the construction and servicing of gas chambers in various U.S. states where executions were still being carried out with cyanide gas. He had moved into the spotlight in 1988 when the second <b>Toronto Revisionist Holocaust</b> trial of German citizen <strong>Ernst Zundel</strong> took place. Three years earlier Zundel had been sentenced to 18 months in prison under an antiquated law against “<i>spreading false news.</i>” Zundel had republished a booklet by English Revisionist <b>Richard Harwood</b> called <b><i>Did Six Million Really Die?</i></b> During the appeal Zundel and Faurisson contacted Fred Leuchter and commissioned him to forensically investigate and write a report about the alleged mass gassings at Auschwitz I, Auschwitz-Birkenau and Majdanek through the use of the insecticide Zyklon B. With a small group of helpers, Leuchter flew to Poland, examined the alleged gas chambers, then wrote his report that concluded it was technically impossible to gas people in such facilities. The most significant part of his report was the chemical analysis. Leuchter had taken samples from the walls of the alleged “<i>homicidal chambers</i>” at Auschwitz I and Auschwitz-Birkenau, and a similar number of samples from the delousing chamber at Auschwitz-Birkenau, where the undisputed fact existed that clothes had been fumigated there using Zyklon B. He sent the samples for analysis to an American chemist, <b>Dr. James Roth</b>, who did not have any idea where these samples had come from.</p>
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<p>The laboratory results confirmed that the samples from the delousing chamber, even after four decades, still contained a high percentage of cyanide residue, while the samples from the “<i>homicidal gas chambers</i>” revealed no cyanide residue, or at most only a trace amount. Leuchter hypothesized that this small amount was due to cyanide having occasionally been used to delouse these facilities.</p>
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<p>Although Leuchter was able to present his findings at the <strong>Toronto Appeal</strong>, the appeal court sentenced Zundel to 15 months in prison, which he did not have to serve, because in 1992 Canada’s Supreme Court declared the law about “<i>spreading false news</i>” to be unconstitutional.</p>
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<p>Now the question about the gas chambers did not let me rest. I phoned Vogt and requested more Revisionist literature so that I could acquaint myself with the arguments, whose advocates the media of the free world had endearingly labeled “<i>extreme right-wing deniers</i>”, or “<i>neo-Nazi nut cases.</i>” At our next meeting, Vogt presented me with three of the then-important Revisionist texts: Serge Thion’s <b><i>Verite Historique ou Verite politique?</i></b>, Arthur Butz’s <b><i>The Hoax of the Twentieth Century</i></b> and Wilhelm Staglich’s <b><i>Der Auschwitz-Mythos</i></b>. Even before I read these books I turned to an article that Vogt had also given to me. It had appeared in Pravda on Feb. 2, 1945 titled “<b><i>The Death Kombinat at Auschwitz</i></b>,” and was translated by the eminent German historian <strong>Udo Walendy</strong>, who published it in his <b><i>Historische Tatsachen</i></b>. Let us place this article within its historical context.</p>
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<p>On Jan. 27, 1945 the Red Army liberated the Auschwitz concentration camp. The SS had left shortly before and had evacuated the prisoners to the west. About 4,299 inmates, mainly Jewish, remained behind, because they could not be evacuated: the sick, invalid, children and old people. Accompanying the Soviet army was a contingent of war correspondents, who immediately began the task of inspecting the camp and interviewing those inmates who had been left behind. One of the correspondents was the Soviet Jew <strong>Boris Polevoi</strong>, who penned the article that <em><strong>Pravda</strong></em> published seven days later.</p>
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<p>This quite undisputed factual report must give rise to serious reflection by any critical thinker who is conversant with the official version of events at Auschwitz. It does not make sense, for example, if we follow the Holocaustian historians, that at Auschwitz between Feb. 1942 and Nov. 1944 about a million Jews were murdered, but 4,299 Gypsies were left behind, instead of these undesirable witnesses being liquidated. After having killed a million, it would not have mattered to also kill another 4,299 victims. Second, the so called “<em>facts</em>” contradict the official historical account that sick Jews, invalids, children and old people actually survived. According to the mass media version of events, it was these who, upon arrival at the camp, were immediately gassed and were not even registered. Establishment historians claim that Jewish prisoners who became sick were killed immediately either by gas, or injection. Most of the preserved documentation about Auschwitz places such claims in the sphere of fables.</p>
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<p>Here is a single example. When the Red Army moved into Auschwitz it found among those prisoners left behind by the Germans 205 almost exclusively Jewish children in an age range between a few months and 15 years. <b>[4]</b> I was then not aware of this, but Walendy’s translation of the <em><strong>Pravda</strong></em> article speaks for itself. Four years later both <b>Carlo Mattogno</b> and I obtained a copy of the original Russian copy in Moscow. Here is an extract:</p>
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<h3 style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">When last year the Red Army revealed to the international public the terrible and disgusting secrets of Majdanek, the Germans began to eliminate the traces of their crimes at Auschwitz. They leveled the hills surrounding the ancient tombs in the eastern part of the camp, removed and destroyed the traces of the electrical assembly line system where hundreds of people were killed simultaneously with electricity. The bodies fell onto a slow-moving conveyor belt that transported them into a blast furnace &#8230; The special mobile equipment for the killing of children [was] brought into the hinterland. The stationary gas chambers in the eastern part of the camp had been rebuilt. They had even attached to them turrets and ornamental architectural features so that they looked like harmless garages.</span></h3>
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<p>All this stands in contradiction to what the Holocaustian literature asserts about Auschwitz. If we believe what the Holocaust historians write, the mass murder of Jews began in February 1942. The place where this occurred is said to have been the chamber of Crematorium I, <i>Stammlager</i> Auschwitz. After a few months the gassings were said to have been transferred to two farm houses about 2 km outside the perimeters of Auschwitz.</p>
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<p>From March 1943 onward, four crematories were commissioned at Birkenau, where it has been alleged specific rooms were used as gas chambers. The main place where exterminations occurred was Mortuary I of Krematoria II. Orthodox historians claim that those who were murdered at Auschwitz, or who died through sickness and weakness were burnt in the crematory, or, if capacity was exceeded by demand, were burnt on pyres, or in open pits. It is now impossible to locate in Holocaustian literature any reference to the “<i>electric conveyor belt that simultaneously killed hundreds of people through electric current.</i>” This conveyor belt was mentioned for the first and last time on Feb. 2, 1945. Holocaustian historians also know nothing about a slowly moving conveyor belt that dropped corpses into a furnace, or mobile contraptions that killed children. Finally, according to the Holocaust literature, the gas chambers were located not in the eastern part of the camp, but at Birkenau, west of the <i>Stammlager</i>, and thanks to the appended miniature towers and architectural ornamentation they looked like “<i>harmless garages</i>,” which not a single witness could confirm. In other words: Polevoi’s report was a total fabrication without any truth content.</p>
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<p>Why? Why would comrade Polevoi serve up to his <b><i>Pravda</i></b> readers such fictitious horror stories if for days he had access to thousands of witnesses who could have reported on the real horror that occurred at Auschwitz?</p>
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<p>The answer was obvious.</p>
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<p>On this day, April 29, 1991, I understood that the recounting of the events at Auschwitz was not done historically, but propagandistically, and the system in which I grew up had lied to me from childhood. In 1958, or 1959, when I was about seven, or eight years old, I had for the first time heard about the gas chambers and had unshakably believed in them as I did in the existence of a continent called Africa, or a planet called Mercury. Now I knew better.</p>
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<p>Later I learned how the official Auschwitz version had been created. On April 7, 1944, two young Czechoslovakian Jews, <b>Rudolf Vrba</b> and <b>Alfred Wetzler</b>, escaped from Auschwitz and had made their way to Pressburg (Slovenian Bratislava), where they wrote a report on Auschwitz and Birkenau. <strong>[5]</strong> This document was distributed by the Geneva-based Jewish organization “<b><i>World Headquarters of Hechaluz.</i></b>” According to the then still anonymous authors an unbelievably large number of Jews had been murdered in the Birkenau crematories with the insecticide <strong>Zyklon B</strong>. (To date such an assertion had not appeared in any earlier reports from Jewish, or Polish resistance organizations. In a later chapter I shall focus on their stories.) In Nov. 1944 this “<i>authentic report</i>” written by these two Czechoslovakian Jews was published in an English translation by the <b>War Refugees Board</b>, an organization headed by the Jewish US finance minister, <b>Henry Morgenthau Jr</b>. As the Morgenthau people did not get their document to their contacts in Moscow on time it was not in the possession of the <b><i>Pravda</i></b> reporter Polevoi by the end of Jan 1945, and so he gave his imagination free rein when he wrote the “<i>historical truths</i>” about Auschwitz. However, his errors were corrected some months later.</p>
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<p>Three former Jewish Auschwitz inmates — <strong>Henryk Tauber</strong>, <strong>Szlama Dragon</strong> and <strong>Henryk Mandelstam</strong> — appeared before a Polish commission, where they testified they had witnessed mass gassings in the Birkenau crematoria. On May 24, 1945 Tauber stated that the total number of deaths in the camp was <b>4 million</b>. <b>[6]</b> This just so happened to be the figure a Soviet commission had just obtained two and a half weeks previously.</p>
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<p>Until the beginning of the 1990s the Polish historical record clung to this grotesque figure. Western Holocaust historians never accepted this figure and were satisfied in adopting a lower figure — 1.25 million, which included 1.1 million Jews, said <strong>Raul Hilberg</strong>.<b> [7]</b></p>
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<p>The Nazi gas chambers were thus a gigantic historical lie, as was also the “<i>industrial extermination of Jews</i>,” which it was alleged had happened in these chambers. It was quite obvious that Jews were the main profiteers of this swindle: The Holocaust myth of their victimization made them practicably unassailable. This lie was also of importance to those whose aim it was to exterminate through interbreeding the Europeans and European-related peoples. (I do not doubt anymore that this has been the aim of the Western elites.) The relentless Holocaustian propaganda served the purpose of inculcating not only the Germans, but all White people with a poisonous guilt complex and a revulsion against “<i>racism</i>.”</p>
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<p>Under such circumstances the exposure of the lie of the extermination camps and their gas chambers had assumed existential proportions for Europe and beyond for the whole White race. I understood this to be my duty, no matter what personal disadvantage this would bring me by being part of this battle. Remaining neutral would have been like a cowardly capitulation.</p>
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<p>After long conversations with <b>Arthur Vogt</b>, who also repeatedly supported me financially, I decided to fill a gap in the Revisionist literature and write a book mentioning all the important Revisionist arguments. Such a work was then not available. At the same time as working as a teacher of French and Latin at the Progymnasium Therwil I began on my project and, during the next two years, read over 100 books on the topic. Obviously among them were the standard texts of the orthodox Holocaust historiography. Until this time, l had filled most of my free time by learning more languages, but now that had to stop. Still, in 1992, I began to learn Polish, whose sound appealed to me. Later in my research the knowledge of Polish was invaluable when reading primary sources.</p>
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<p>In March 1992, I traveled to Vichy so as to catch up with that visit, which had never eventuated 13 years earlier, to Prof. Robert Faurisson. In the meantime, I had sent him the first draft of my manuscript for evaluation. This extraordinary man had become the primary hate object of one of France’s Jewish organizations. He had been convicted by a capricious judiciary and heavily fined. In 1989 a pack of criminals, who called themselves “<i>Sons of the Jewish Memory,</i>” had set upon him in a park and brutally beaten him. Faurisson impressed me with his sharp mind and his detailed knowledge of the topic that had brought this together. But especially I was impressed by his love for truth. Here I had before me a man who would never compromise with a lie. Since our first meeting we have remained in constant contact and I have translated many of his works into German.</p>
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<p>In September 1992, Faurisson and I traveled to Badenweiler to visit the former judge <strong>Wilhelm Staglich</strong>, the author of <b><i>Ver Auschwitz Mythos</i></b> (1979). In the late summer of 1944 Staglich was for a brief time stationed at Auschwitz as a lieutenant of the German antiaircraft gun defense. During the early 1970s, he published in a right-wing magazine a report of his experiences, wherein he stated that at Auschwitz he had not seen any evidence of crimes committed. For this heresy he was punished by having his doctorate revoked on the ground that his book was unworthy of an academic distinction. Ironically, the law that enabled this to occur was personally signed by Adolf Hitler.</p>
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<p>This gave rise to a commitment within Staglich to find out what really happened at Auschwitz. The research resulted in his producing a standard Revisionist work whose chapter — a magnificent analysis of the <b>Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial</b> of 1963-65. During our discussion, Staglich commented pessimistically about a Revisionist breakthrough in Germany. The incessant brainwashing that already began in primary schools and the open attacks on Revisionists made such a development most unlikely.</p>
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<p>Meanwhile, my manuscript had grown to a few hundred pages. Arthur Vogt and I agreed that a shorter version was needed wherein the Revisionist arguments were presented in compressed form. Anyone interested in more details could then read the longer version of the book. In March 1993 the abridged version was published as <b><i>Der Holocaust auf dem Prufstand</i></b> <strong>[8]</strong> and led to my immediate dismissal from the Progymnasium Therwil. Two months later the full version with an introduction by Robert Faurisson was published as Der Holocaust-Schwindel. <strong>[9]</strong></p>
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<p>After my dismissal I had a lot of time to myself, which I thought of using productively as long as I could write without fear of legal persecution. In December 1992, both houses of the Swiss Parliament had passed an “<i>antiracism</i>” law — <b>Section 261</b> of the Criminal Code. It stated that “<i>justification, trivializing and denying of genocide and other crimes against humanity</i>” be punished by a maximum of three years in prison and an unlimited fine. The actual purpose of this law was to suppress Holocaust Revisionism. That in autumn 1993 a small group of Swiss citizens was able to collect enough signatures for a referendum prevented this legal muzzle from becoming active. The referendum was set for Sept. 25, 1994, which meant I could continue my work peacefully.</p>
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<p>A week after my dismissal as a teacher, I became acquainted with Swiss engineer <b>Gerhard Forster</b>, a pensioner of German descent, who asked me to collect and critically analyze eyewitness reports about the alleged gassings at Auschwitz. Soon I was to meet the two men who were then to shape the profile of Revisionism. In June 1993, the 27-year-old German chemist <b>Germar Rudolf</b> visited me in Basel. He had just confirmed the results of his <b><i>Rudolf Report</i></b> in an exacting scientific paper, which he had published under the pseudonym “<i>Ernst Gauss</i>,” <b><i>Vorlesungenl uber Zeitgeschichte</i></b>. Rudolf appeared to be extremely self-confident. He was convinced that Revisionism would soon experience a breakthrough. He felt that there were no arguments against facts. Soon this brilliant scientist would experience firsthand the methods employed by the “<i>most free state in Germany’s history</i>,” without any argument, in order to suppress uncomfortable facts.</p>
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<p>In September 1993, I traveled to Rome, where I visited the Italian <strong>Prof. </strong><b>Carlo Mattogno</b>, who possessed numerous difficult-to-find texts, which were vital for my own book that I was writing about Auschwitz. For over a decade Mattogno had been writing books about National Socialist politics on the Jewish question, especially a brilliant analysis of the <b><i>Gerstein Report</i></b>, which served as the primary piece of evidence of the claim that Jews were gassed at the Belzec concentration camp, as well as a book titled <b><i>Il Mito dello Sterminio</i></b> (“<b><i>The Myth of Jewish Extermination</i></b>”). My visit, the first of about 15, was the impetus of a developing deep personal and productive relationship that extended to five extensive research trips as well as the production of a number of books.</p>
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<p>My book, <b><i>Tatergestandnisse und Augenzeugen des Holocaust</i></b> (<b><i>Perpetrator Confessions and Eyewitnesses of the Holocaust</i></b>), was published by Gerhard Forster’s Neue Vision in May 1994. Four months later, Arthur Vogt and I traveled to California to attend the 12th <b>International Revisionist Conference</b>. Mattogno was one of the invited speakers at that conference. His text had been translated into English by an Italian-American citizen, <b>Russell Granata</b>, who was then to accompany us in the following year on our Moscow trip. At this conference I met the already then-legendary <b>Ernst Zundel</b> as well as his future wife, <b>Ingrid Rimland</b>, a German-American psychologist and author, who had only recently been convinced by Zundel of the correctness of the Revisionist thesis.</p>
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<p>At that time the director of the <b>Institute for Historical Review</b> (IHR) was <b>Mark Weber</b>, who, through a putsch, had replaced his boss, <b>Willis Carto</b>. Weber had a charming personality, which impressed me greatly. In subsequent years I wondered, though, why the IHR’s <b><i>Journal of Historical Review</i></b> lost its quality. This caused the magazine to lose subscribers and so Weber ceased publishing it. What surprised me was how Weber refused to translate and to publish Germar Rudolf’s fundamental volume, <b><i>Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte</i></b>. Only in A.D. 2000 did I meet the disempowered former IHR publisher Willis Carto and his wife Elisabeth and learned their side of the conflict. The Carto couple was convinced that Weber had deposed them on the urgings of Zionists in whose interest it was to neutralize the dangerous IHR. At first I was skeptical of such a view, but later I gradually became convinced that the Cartos may just have been right.</p>
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<p>Soon after my return from California to Switzerland, on Sept. 25, 1994, we had the citizen-initiated referendum on the anti-racism law, which had been preceded by a malicious campaign conducted by the larger newspapers and media outlets. This new law was needed, it was argued by politicians and media scribblers, to protect foreigners from the threats of vile racists. They also lied unbelievably about the Revisionists, the so- called “<i>Holocaust deniers</i>” and “<i>Auschwitz deniers</i>.” Again and again it was asserted that we Revisionists deny the existence of the Auschwitz concentration camp. This propaganda of lies succeeded in persuading the Swiss citizens to vote in favor of their own disfranchisement by a 54% vote.</p>
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<p>Meanwhile, Arthur Vogt and I, together with two other former teachers — <strong>Andreas Studer</strong> and <strong>Bernhard Schaub</strong> — founded the “<strong><i>Arbeitsgemeinschaft zur Enttabuisierung der Zeitgeschichte</i></strong>” where we later changed the word “<i>Enttabuisierung</i>” — “<i>get rid of taboo</i>” to “<i>Erforschung</i>” — “<i>research.</i>” In the year following the publication of his book, <b><i>Adler und Rose</i></b>, in 1992, Schaub had lost his position as a German and history teacher at the Rudolf Steiner School. His book had contained a number of Revisionist arguments, and so he found himself in a similar position to me. We decided to continue our work after the muzzling law had come into effect. Vogt continued to publish his <b><i>Aurora</i></b> magazine of about 100 copies wherein he expressed his ideas about contemporary history and current affairs, as well as publishing some of my articles. Unfortunately, it was not possible to persuade Vogt not to send his magazine to judges and state prosecutors, because he fatally and erroneously believed these people were interested in historical facts. For this error he paid a heavy price. He was sentenced and convicted to heavy fines and only his advancing years in age prevented his being imprisoned.</p>
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<p>In 1995 Carlo Mattogno and I undertook the already mentioned trip to Moscow, where we conducted extensive studies in two archives — the <b>Center for Conserving of Historical Documents</b>, which today is called the <b>Russian Military Archive</b>, and the <b>Archive of the Russian Federation</b>. We copied thousands of documents on which Mattogno was to base his future in-depth research about Auschwitz.</p>
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<p>At the end of May 1997, Mattogno and I conducted a research trip that took us to Poland, Belarus and Lithuania, and from which we returned only in August. We returned with countless documents from the various archives on which the Majdanek book as well as the study about the Stutthof camp are based. Then in the historical archives of the Belarus capital city Minsk I met my future wife, the historian <b>Olga Stepanowna</b>, who had assisted researchers with their requests.</p>
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<p>In May 1998, Mattogno and I undertook a trip to Belgium, where we met the indefatigable Revisionist publisher <b>Siegfried Verbeke</b>, then traveled to Holland, where we copied important documents held at the <b>Amsterdam Imperial Archive for War Documents</b>. Eleven years later these documents were to prove invaluable as we, together with the Swedish Revisionist <b>Thomas Kues</b>, published our book about the Sobibor camp.</p>
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<p>In July 1998 Gerhard Forster and I appeared before court in Baden in Aargau for having distributed our Revisionist literature. As a witness for the defense I had invited Faurisson and the Austrian engineer, <b>Wolfgang Frohlich</b>, who was an expert in pest control as well as the killing of microbes through gas. The presiding judge refused Faurisson as a witness, but permitted Frohlich to make a statement. Frohlich had proposed to state the technical and chemical impossibility of the gassing scenario at Auschwitz, but was interrupted after a few sentences by state prosecutor <b>Dominik Aufdenblatten</b>, and threatened with prosecution were he to continue. This is how corrupt the Swiss judiciary had become. I was sentenced to 15 months in prison without parole as well as costs and fines totaling up to 40,000 francs. My barrister, <b>Dr. Urs Oswald</b>, who had mounted a competent defense, filed an appeal against this sentence.</p>
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<p>Gerhard Forster, who was suffering from osteoporosis and other illnesses, appeared in court in a wheelchair. He was sentenced to 12 months in prison and received a fine almost as high as mine. He died two months after the trial.</p>
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<p>Thanks to the German-Australian <b>Dr. Fredrick Toben</b>, who held a Revisionist conference in Adelaide, the capital of South Australia, two months after my trial it was possible for me to get to know the “<i>Land Down Under”</i>. Soon after my collaboration began with two Swiss comrades, <b>Philippe Brennenstuhl</b> and <b>Rene-Louis Berclaz</b>, the latter of whom had in September 1998 received a suspended sentence for translating the <b><i>Rudolf Report</i></b> into French. Together we founded the association <b><i>Verite et Justice</i></b> which then published numerous brochures. Among others, we also produced a response to the Bundesrat-produced <b><i>Bergier Report</i></b> which contained the usual lies about the role the Swiss played during World War II and lies about the ??? 82 year-old publicist <b>Gaston Armand Amaudruz</b>.</p>
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<p>Soon after the Amaudruz trial, Mattogno and I undertook another trip to Moscow. There I learned that the Swiss Federal Court had confirmed my prison sentence. After our research in the Russian capital, I traveled to Minsk to visit Olga. At that time, we were not yet decided on whether I should serve my sentence, or whether I should move to Minsk, and so we postponed that decision to a later point.</p>
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<p>Upon my return to Switzerland I was advised to begin my sentence on Oct. 2, 2000. As I could not pay the 40,000-franc fine imposed on me, my prison time would have been increased by about a year, and this would have meant a total of two and a half years of my freedom. So I left Switzerland on Aug. 15, my 49th birthday, and traveled, after a brief stop in Poland and Lemberg in west Ukraine, to Moscow, where Olga visited me. Instead of turning up on Oct. 2 at a Swiss prison, a day later I celebrated my engagement. Olga and I were not prepared to be separated for two and a half years. In any case, I did not see why I should spend time in prison for a crime I did not commit — “<i>racial discrimination.</i>” Our wedding took place in the following summer, because in November 2000 the Iranian Foreign Ministry had invited me to come to Tehran to assist in the preparation of an end of March/beginning of April 2001 conference on the topic of “<b><i>Revisionism and Zionism.</i></b>” The Iranian government did not wish to hold this conference in Iran, and so it was decided that it should be held in Beirut, the capital of Lebanon.</p>
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<p>In Tehran, I was looked after by three helpful and kind Foreign Ministry functionaries named Mohamed, Hasan and Nasir. I pointed out to my new Persian friends that a small and weak country like Lebanon, that bordered on Israel and was financially dependent on US financial support, could not, without difficulties, withstand the expected pressure coming from America and the Zionists. And so it came to pass. After the US State Department became involved, two weeks before it was to take place, the government in Beirut canceled the planned conference. In April 2001 I flew to Moscow, and from there traveled to Minsk. On July 26, Olga and I married in a civil ceremony in the White Russian capital. On Aug. 8 we had the wedding in a Roman Catholic church in Moscow.</p>
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<p>In June 2002, my parents visited us in Moscow, which was the last time I saw my father: he died on June 7, 2008 at the age of 87. After my parents left us, Olga and I began our tour of the U.S., which we remember fondly. First we spent a few days as guests of Willis and Elisabeth Carto in Washington, where I also attended one of Carto’s <b>Barnes Review</b> conferences. There I was able to draw upon the book’s conclusions that Mattogno and I had written about Treblinka, which was to be published a few months later. We then flew to California, where we enjoyed the hospitality of our friend Russell Granata and his wife, Doris, and from there we journeyed to Germar Rudolf, who was then living in Alabama.</p>
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<p>As a result of his Revisionist work, in 1995 Rudolf was sentenced to 18 months in prison, but he fled to England and from there to the US. Leaving aside the difficulties such moving about creates, Rudolf focused on Revisionism with extraordinary energy. He was then publishing the magazine <b><i>Vierteljahreshefte fur freie Geschichtsforschung</i></b>, and as well he became a publisher of German and English Revisionist books. Three and a half years after our visit, and in spite of his marriage to a U.S. citizen and having just become a father, he was extradited to Germany where he remained imprisoned until July 2009. After some difficult legal negotiations, the US immigration bureaucracy permitted his return to the U.S., where he now resides with his family. In his book <b><i>Widerstand ist Pflicht</i></b> <b>[10]</b> Rudolf recounts and documents his persecution by “<i>the freest state in Germany’s history.</i>”</p>
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<p>One of the nicest individuals Olga and I met in America was a Protestant professor of theology and Greek, <b>Robert Countess</b>, and his wife Elma. In July we drove with him to Tennessee, where we spent some unforgettable days, with Ernst Zundel and his wife Ingrid. At that time, we did not anticipate the dark clouds that were forming over this couple. Half a year after our visit, and under an immigration pretext of not having attended a parole meeting, Zundel was extradited to Canada. Without being charged and without a trial, he spent two years in a maximum security immigration facility under a security certificate warrant before being extradited to Germany, where he was convicted and sentenced to five years in prison — which he had to serve to the day. Since March 2010, he is again free, but US immigration officials have denied him a return to his wife in Tennessee.</p>
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<p>After our America trip, Olga and I settled in Moscow, and I will probably return to the years spent in Russia at another time. Suffice it to say that most of my time was taken up with translation work, and I did not do enough for Revisionism. Still, in 2008 I was able to publish a book for our Russian readers, which my publisher titled <b><i>Der Zusammenbruch der neuen Ordnung</i></b>. Together, with Thomas Kues and Carlo Mattogno I wrote the above-mentioned study of Sobibor. As well, I wrote a number of articles that can be viewed on my website <a href="http://www.juergen-graf.vho.org">www.juergen-graf.vho.org</a>.</p>
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<p>Of those mentioned Revisionists some are no longer with us. My friend and mentor <b>Arthur Vogt</b> died on Oct. 30, 2003, two weeks before his 86th birthday. <b>Russell Granata</b> left us in 2004, <b>Robert Countess</b> in 2005 and <b>Wilhelm Staglich</b> in 2006. <b>Andreas Studer,</b> who had been totally blind for some years, died in autumn 2013.</p>
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<p>On numerous occasions I have been asked whether I would have become a Revisionist had I not met Arthur Vogt. The answer to this question can only be, “<i>Yes</i>.” At the latest, however, since the enacting of the “<i>anti racism law</i>,” I would have certainly asked the political class, which I now deeply distrust, why our politicians want to deny a free and open investigation of the Holocaust. I would have followed up this matter, and I would have met Faurisson, Rudolf, Mattagna and the other Revisionists, albeit a little later. Whether I would have ever met Olga is difficult to say. Such thoughts are superfluous, because fate would have it that I became acquainted with Revisionism under the circumstances related above and during a Revisionist trip I met my wife. That she came from the former Soviet Union, which I so feared as a child and adolescent, was a fateful irony.</p>
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<p>Now that my Russian exile is nearing its end I would like to return to the topic of my first book, which encapsulates what I observed decades ago, how Europe began its “<i>long day’s journey into the night</i>” through mass immigration of people from foreign cultures and races. After I had clarified in <b><i>Narrenschiff</i></b> the specific problem of asylum abuse in Switzerland, I have now set myself the goal of reflecting on this problem in a much broader context.</p>
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<p>My earlier predicted apocalyptical conditions did not eventuate in my homeland. Although Switzerland belongs to those European countries with the highest number of foreigners, these foreigners are easily integrated Europeans — Italians, Germans and Portuguese. That we did not experience the horrendous catastrophe facing France, Belgium, Holland, or England is a result of two factors. First, thanks to a constitutional right the Swiss citizen can bring about a citizen-initiated referendum on factual questions by obtaining a minimum number of signatures. This is the fundamental difference between us and our neighbor state, the Federal Republic of Germany, which calls itself “<i>democratic</i>”, but refuses to grant its citizens the right to comment directly on factual matters, and which, in its long history, has never granted its citizens a single citizen-initiated referendum. Second, the largest political party in our government, the Swiss <b>Volkspartei</b>, does represent the interests of the majority of the indigenous peoples, while the German, French, British and so on do not have any representation in their governing parties.</p>
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<p>Why is it that the peoples of the old continent have not resisted their ruling elites’ aim of killing their souls and bringing about their biological extinction? <b>Ernst Junger</b> provides an answer to this question in his marvelous novel <b><i>Auf den Marmorklippen</i></b>, wherein the tyranny of the head ranger at the Grossen Marina is vividly described:</p>
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<h3 style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">There were other signs wherein the decline expressed itself. It is like a rash that appears, disappears and returns. In between there were also joyous days where everything seemed as before this was the head ranger’s — Oberforster’s — brilliant strategy; he injected fear in small doses, then increased them with the aim of paralyzing any resistance. <b>[11]</b></span></h3>
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<p>If, during the 1960s, a European government had flooded its country with African and Asian immigrants, legalized the obscenely blasphemous same-sex “<i>marriage</i>” and introduced the criminal madness of “<i>gender mainstreaming</i>,” then the people would soon have had enough and voted them out. Thus the destruction of the social order needed to be done in small doses, as with Ernst Junger’s head ranger. Besides indoctrinating the younger generation, politicians and the media imbued the parent generation with fear in small doses and increased the pressure on those who contumaciously refused to march along toward the abyss and who were then labeled bigoted rednecks and screwed-up anti-progressives. And so those who still retained their independence of thought and whose instincts remained uncorrupted fled into silent resignation. For recalcitrant dissidents specific “<i>anti-racism laws</i>” were enacted throughout Europe.</p>
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<p>According to the will of those who have written on their banners the extermination of the Europeans and the destruction of European culture, there is to be no tomorrow for the vanquished. But while I write these lines there is already a strong resistant wind blowing in the faces of those who are set on destroying our culture.</p>
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<p>The last battle for Europe has not yet been fought.</p>
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<p>Moscow, June 12, 2014</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Notes to the Introduction:</span></h3>
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<p><strong>1.</strong> Jurgen Graf and Carlo Mattogno, <b><i>KL Majdanck, Eine historische und technische Studie</i></b>, Castle Hill Publishers, Hastings, 1998.</p>
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<p><strong>2.</strong> Robert Faurisson, “<b><i>Le probleme des chambres a gaz ou la rumeur d’Auschwitz,</i></b>” <b><i>Le Monde</i></b>, Dec. 29, 1978.</p>
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<p><strong>3.</strong> Christian Morgenstern, “<b><i>Die unmogliche Tatasche</i></b>,” in <b><i>Palmstrom: All Galgenlieder, Diogenes Verlag</i></b>, Zurich, 1987.</p>
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<p><strong>4.</strong> State Archive of the Russian Federation, Moscow, 7021-108-23, p. 179-198 and 200-217.</p>
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<p><strong>5.</strong> Franklin Delano Roosevelt Library, New York, WRB Box n 61.</p>
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<p><strong>6.</strong> Akten des Hoss-Prozesses, Band 11, P.130.</p>
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<p><strong>7.</strong> Raul Hilberg, <b><i>Die Vernichtung der euroaischen Juden</i></b>, Frankfurt a. M., 1997, P. 946.</p>
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<p><strong>8.</strong> Jurgen Graf, <b><i>Ver Holocaust auf dem Priufstand</i></b>, Gideon Burg Verlag, Basel, 1993.</p>
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<p><strong>9.</strong> Jurgen Graf, <b><i>Ver Holocaust Schwindel</i></b>, Gideon Burg Verlag, Basel, 1993.</p>
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<p><strong>10</strong>. Germar Rudolf, <b><i>Widerstand ist Pflicht</i></b>, Castle Hill Publishers, Uckfield, 2012.</p>
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<p><strong>11.</strong> Ernst Junger, <b><i>Auf den Marmorklippen</i></b>, 19. Auflage, Klett-Cotta 2008, p. 46. The first edition appeared in Hamburg in 1938.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong>Jean Raspail</strong></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">CHAPTER ONE</span></h3>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">THE RED BIRD</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">FROM THE DANUBE DELTA</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #0000ff;"> </span></p>
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<p>When I think of the developments in Europe, I often recount with pain and sadness this mythical red bird of which the Romanian author Marin Preda metaphorically reports:</p>
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<h3 style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Romanian ornithologists have discovered a red-feathered bird that displays an inexplicable behavior. Each year foxes steal eggs from its nest and replace them with pebbles, which the bird incubates during summer, not realizing they are pebbles. In order to save the endangered species, the ornithologists chased away the foxes. To the scientists’ amazement, who watched with binoculars from a distance, the bird in an inexplicable hysterical rage broke the eggs with its beak, flapping its wings and dancing around in a mad fashion. What was wrong? Which dark instincts drove it to self- destruction? Why did it no longer wish to live? Who could know? Nature has condemned the red bird to death, and no one had the power to change the verdict. <b>[1]</b></span></h3>
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<p>Just like this hapless red bird, it appears the European peoples are driven by a gloomy instinct to their self-destruction. This demographic winter already entered decades ago and should a spring not follow, then, according to the immutable laws of mathematics, it must lead to the aging and extinction of the peoples of the continent. In his 2002 book <b><i>The Death of the West</i></b>, the American author Patrick Buchanan described in a sober fashion the development as follows:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">The prognosis is grim. Between 2000 and 2050, the world population will grow by more than 3 billion to over 9 billion people, but this 50% increase in global population will come entirely in Asia, Africa and Latin America, as one hundred million people of European stock vanish from the Earth. In 1960 people of European ancestry were one-fourth of the world’s population; in 2000, they were ones sixth; in 2050, they will be one-tenth. These are the statistics of a vanishing race. In 2000 the total population of Europe, from Iceland to Russia, was 728 million. At present birthrates, however, without new immigration, her population will crash to 600 million by 2050 &#8230; Europe dies. How bleak is the situation? Of the 20 nations with the lowest birthrates in the world, 18 are in Europe. The average fertility rate of a European woman has fallen to 1.4 children, with 2.1 needed just to replace the existing population &#8230; If the present fertility rates hold, Europe’s population will decline to 207 million by the end of the 21st century, less than 30% of today’s. The cradle of Western civilization will have become its grave … For 10 years Germany’s birthrate has stood at 1.3 children per woman, far below the 2.1 needed to replace the present population. Here is the future that is now hard upon the German nation. By 2050:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">• 23 million Germans will have disappeared;</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">• Germany’s 82 million people will have fallen to 59 million;</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">• A third of Germany’s population will be over 65 years old. These seniors will outnumber German children more than two to one &#8230;</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Prospects for the Italian race, which gave us Rome and all its glory, St. Peter’s and the Sistine Chapel, Dante and Michelangelo, Columbus and Galileo, are even more dire.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Italy’s birthrate has been below replacement levels for 25 years and is down to 1.2 children per woman. At this rate, Italy’s 57 million people will fall to 41 million by 2050 … Cardinal Giacomo Biffi of Bologna has called on Rome to restrict immigration to Catholics to “<i>save the nation’s identity.</i>” But where does his eminence propose to find these Catholics? Certainly not in Spain, where in the days of the Caudillo, Gen. Francisco Franco, big families were sacred and received medals and gifts from the state. In Spain, the birthrate is down to 1.07 children per woman, and the population is projected to fall by 25% in 50 years … What does the future hold for our British cousins?</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ethnic minorities already constitute 40% of London’s population. The fertility rate fell to 1.66 births per woman. <b>[2]</b></span></p>
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<p>But as Europe is dying;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“the Third World adds 100 million people — one new Mexico every 15 months. Forty new Mexicos in the Third World by 2050, while Europe will have lost the equivalent of the entire population of Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway — and Germany!”</span></h3>
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<p>It lies in the nature of things that the gradually aging, but still wealthy Western half of Europe attracts like a magnet the exploding population of the Third World. Already some decades ago, visionaries saw the writing on the wall. One of them was the author <b>Jean Raspail</b>. In his brilliant 1973 novel <b><i>Le camp des saints</i></b> (“<b><i>The Camp of the Saints</i></b>”) <b>[3]</b> he outlined a vision of the end of Europe which is heralded with the landing, on the French Mediterranean coast, of a giant fleet of I million refugees. For compelling literary reasons, Raspail let this armada arrive not from nearby north and west Africa, as would have been expected, but from faraway India. Several weeks would elapse from the time of the fleet’s departure to its landing at the French Mediterranean coast, as all of Africa had to be circumnavigated, due to the closure of the Suez Canal. This gave the author the opportunity to slowly increase the suspense.</p>
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<p>Raspail depicts with terrifying realism the helplessness and inaction of the government in Paris. The agitation of the left-leaning intellectuals and journalists demanding self-righteously, in the name of human rights, the hospitable reception of the refugees. The happy excitement of the black and Arab population living in France, feverishly expectant of the impending <i>Big Redistribution</i>, as well as the final betrayal by the Catholic dignitaries of their true believers and indigenous population. Immediately after the landing of the armada, the French church leaders called and gathered for a hunger strike in support of the invaders, and the Cardinal of Paris offered the Muslims 30 churches to be converted into mosques. At that time the sitting Pope in the Vatican was Benedict XVI.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Pure Coincidence, or Clairvoyant Abilities?</span></h3>
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<p>Jean Raspail’s oppressive vision became reality long ago. Day after day boats navigate with refugees into European coastal waters. However, they do not arrive from India, but Africa. For most the first point of call is the Italian island of <b>Lampedusa</b>. A constant now of unseaworthy and overcrowded vessels arrives, with African passengers who, will then be transported to the mainland with the aim to “<i>migrate</i>” them to the north, where higher social service benefits are on offer and where a fanatic migrant lobby fights for the permanent stay of these illegal immigrants.</p>
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<p>For this lobby — to which in Germany belong the Green Party, SPD (Social Democratic Party) and the left, but also increasingly the CDU —these Africans are “<i>the poorest of the poor</i>” and Europe is duty bound, for humanitarian reasons, to give the invaders a permanent stay. The publication <b><i>Zuerst</i></b> proves with naked facts that this view in no way coincides with reality:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">To reach the EU from Africa and Asia without assistance works only in rare cases. In most circumstances the services of professional “<i>people smugglers</i>” are engaged, and they cost money, lots of money. This applies especially for the so-called professional people smugglers, who repeat failed illegal crossings until successful&#8230;. Often large families, or whole communities join together to finance organized people smugglers to transport a chosen person. His mission is: He must reach his destination, establish himself and obtain as much money as possible to enable other members of their community, or family to follow.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">An Austrian member of Parliament, Dr. Johann Huebner, points out:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Among the refugees are also numerous people who already were criminals in their country, among them street gangs from major black African cities, drug dealers and other criminals who have access to cash and foreign currencies which normally does not apply to the majority of black Africans.”</span></h3>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">There is no question, but that there are many reasons for emigration. In all corners of the planet exist political, ethnic and religious conflicts, hostile clans fight for power and bully the population, natural disasters, misery and hunger rage. However, there are not only pushing, but also pulling forces: the allure of a life of plenty in faraway Europe transported by the rumor mill and the modern media. Television and Internet can today be found in every bamboo hut. <b>[4]</b></span></p>
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<p>Such logical arguments are naturally not amenable to the immigration lobby, as logic is a foreign word to them. Their actions are based purely on emotion, and the actual motives, mainly from the German advocates of this lobby, appear to be seldom genuine concern for the economic refugees. To most it serves as a battering ram for the destruction of their own country. Their real motive is the hatred for their own people which must quickly disappear in a racial melting pot. The system itself has cultivated this self-hate through the mindless Auschwitz and Holocaust propaganda. Therefore, the German immigration lobby is a waste product of this re-education.</p>
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<p>So it is that almost daily boats continue to anchor in Lampedusa. And tragedies continue to happen such as the one of October 2013 when almost 400 Africans drowned. The politicians dutifully sprinkled ash on their heads and asked themselves how such catastrophes could be avoided in the future. The only right answer to this question was issued by a lone voice in the wilderness, Thilo Sarrazin:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Where lie the limits for the European conscience? A yearly number of 100,000 economic refugees from Africa, or 500,000, or perhaps 1 million? And what if even more should arrive? Even 2 million refugees would not bring lasting relief to conditions in Africa …</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">The sociologist Max Weber, in a presentation, distinguished between the ethics of thinking and the ethics of responsibility. He said:</span></p>
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<h3 style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">“There is a profound difference whether someone acts under the maxim of thinking ethics — speaking in a religious sense: A Christian does the right thing and credits God for the successful outcome — or, under the ethics of responsibility, one has to accept the (foreseeable) consequences of one’s actions …” </span></h3>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Let’s look at Africa in this context: The population on this continent has in the last 50 years quadrupled and rests now at a billion people … Europe can assist by way of assuring that those who leave are not the ones who are needed to improve the conditions. It is not the poorest who are fleeing. It is the middle class, those who are relatively well educated and in a better financial situation and whose families are able to scrape together the $1,000, or $2,000 needed for a tug to Europe, so that a member of the family can go to Europe as a bridgehead. Those who are fleeing the African countries are needed most [in Africa] to help overcome their underdevelopment. Europe would do a service to these countries by preventing this exodus. Europe can best avoid deaths in the Mediterranean by not allowing refugees to reach the Maghreb coast &#8230;</span></p>
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<h3 style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8220;The only way to win the fight against people smuggle/os is by stopping the demand for their services. This can only be achieved when it is made clew ‘that all refugees picked up in the Mediterranean are returned to their coastal point of departures.&#8221;<b> [5]</b></span></h3>
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<p>The following measures would dry up the influx to Lampedusa within days:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">If Italy enacted a law which would make the commercial “<i>people smuggling,</i>” independent of the number of people smuggled, punishable with a five-year prison sentence. The captains of the refugee boats, or tugs could be made to face a court immediately after their arrival, convicted and the same day sent to prison for five years. This news would travel at speed to the Maghreb states and the potential immigrants would overnight have no more tugs available.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">No attempt is made to check the identity and country of origin of the illegal immigrants on arrival. The latter is only seldom possible with black Africans, also due to language problems. Close to 2,000 dialects are spoken on the African continent, of which most Europeans have no knowledge, and apart from that, language and state borders in black Africa, states that were created by previous colonial powers and are arbitrary structures, do not correspond. Each arrival receives a shower and a warm meal, and he is handed a food package. Immediately following, the illegal immigrants will be returned by boat commanded by a European captain to the original departure point on the Libyan, or Tunisian coast from which they started their journey to the north. These points can easily be located from satellite pictures. The Libyan and Tunisian authorities will be responsible for the repatriation of the refugees.</span></p>
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<p>Within days the “<i>demand for people smuggler services</i>” would sink to zero, to use Thilo Sarrazin’s phrasing. The stream of migrants over the Mediterranean would end, and no more refugees would drown.</p>
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<p>Of course, as long as no radical political change occurs, no government in Rome will resort to such measures, as with nearly all governments in other European countries, so too are the Italians prisoners of their mad, liberal and international ideology.</p>
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<p>Let us assume the impossible should occur and an Italian government decided to take up the steps above. In that scenario a deafening howl of protest would arise throughout the “<i>free world,</i>” and the do-gooders of all countries would cry out for sanctions against Rome. The loudest shouts would without doubt emanate from the Social Democratic Party in Germany, of which Sarrazin, for inexplicable reasons, is to this day a member. The SPD minister for social services in Lower Saxony, Cornelia Rundt, at the end of 2013, expressed the view that in future integration would no longer be demanded from immigrants, but to appreciate the growing diversity. She demanded the Germans develop a “<i>culture of welcome.</i>” How does a mentally sound human being such as Mr. Sarrazin feel in such a society?<b> [6] </b></p>
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<p>Lampedusa is not the only destination illegal immigrants from the Third World strive to reach by sea. In the autumn of 2012 Greece constructed a nine-foot-high fence bordering Turkey to stop economic and war refugees from countries such as Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria using Greece as a thoroughfare on their march to Europe. Now many migrants reach Greece over the Aegean Sea, others cross the River Evros with the use of tugs.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“[For] whoever has made it to Turkey, from there the journey is child’s play. Every day more than 100 planes land in Istanbul from Asia and Africa. It is not hard to find someone who for payment would organize a trip over the Evros.” <b>[7]</b></span></h3>
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<p>In the economically prostrate country of the Hellenes, by now 10% of the population originate from the Third World. Only a small number of the newcomers remain. Most move on to comfortably settle in middle, west and northern Europe. An especially attractive destination is Germany. The reason being, Athens has no functioning asylum system, and the German authorities do not send back illegal immigrants who reach Germany via Greece. However, this still does not satisfy the immigration lobby:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">In order not to be deported, refugees must first make it to Germany on their own accord. Welfare organizations such as <b>Pro Asyl</b> are not content with this passive stance.</span></p>
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<h3 style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It would be a sign of humanity, especially people in need of protection, such as families with children, or children traveling alone, to distribute according to humanitarian criteria to other EU states. This would also be a sign of solidarity with Greece,” said Karl Kopp, European speaker for <b>Pro Asyl</b>. <b>[8]</b></span></h3>
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<p>Although illegal immigration from the Third World is often based on and takes place under dramatic circumstances, and takes center stage, this should not detract from the fact that legal immigration procedures to enable family reunion also take place. From the moment a migrant has obtained permanent residency status, his wife and children may follow. If he is single, there are two possibilities open to him. Either he returns for a holiday to his home country, marries and returns with his wife, who through the marriage gains also residency in the particular European country where he now resides. Should this be too costly for him, he can send for a bride from his home country, who with the help of people smugglers crosses the border illegally, and then legalizes her stay through marriage.</p>
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<p>In April 2013 the highest court in France, the Court of Cassation, made a significant judgment. It decided that Algerian and Turkish migrants working in France, whose children are born in their respective home countries, have the right to claim child support payments from the French government, as long as they settle in France. This also applies if those children are from various marriages. In the case of Turkey, which forbids polygamy, the latter clause has no practical meaning. However, it applies in the case of Algeria where polygamy is legal. In other words:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">An Algerian man with four wives, who bore him 15 children, may bring these 15 children to France, and claim money for child support.</span></p>
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<p>The same country that allows, with these measures, north African Muslims in droves into France permits year after year around 200,000 French children to be legally killed in their mother’s womb. Since the lifting of the abortion ban in 1975, on the initiative of the Jewish “<i>health minister</i>” <b>Simone Veil</b>, till the end of 2013 approximately 7.6 million children were pierced, dismembered and cauterized with the state’s blessing. Only in a disappearing and small number of cases were the abortions for legitimate reasons (danger to the life, or health of the mother; pregnancy resulting from rape, or incest). The others were the result of “<i>social reasons.</i>”</p>
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<p>As a youth I came across this Quote during a lecture about the <b><i>New Testament</i></b>: “<i>Der Tod ist der Suende Soll</i>,” — “<i>Death is payment for our sins</i>” (<b><i>Romans 6:23</i></b>). This made no sense to me, as death comes to all of us, the righteous and sinners. However, if you apply this quote not to the individual, but to people and nations, then with fearsome clarity the sense of this comes to light. A people which with in 38 years kills off over 7 minion of its children for “<i>social reasons</i>” but, at the same time, entices millions of people of other religions, cultures and race to their country, is guilty of a sin, whose payment is their death.</p>
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<p>The excuse that the responsibility for this policy lies with the politicians and their appointed judges and not with the French citizens does not help. The French people have voted for these politicians. In May 2002 the incumbent <b>President Jacques Chirac</b>, an advocate of multiculturalism and African migration, took up his post after the second round of the presidential elections against <b>Marine Le Pen</b> from the National Front, who wanted to stop immigration. More than 81% of the French decided for Chirac and thereby agreed to their own displacement. As a mitigating circumstance one could allow the fact that their judgment was clouded due to the mendacious media propaganda. However, no mitigating circumstance can save the French people from their displacement if they do not wake up in time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Dmitri Kisseljow’s Russian television program <b><i>Vesti Nedli</i></b> (“<b><i>News of the Week</i></b>”) of February 2013 conveys an unembellished picture of the situation in French cities. We quote here a few passages from the program with the title “<b><i>The unrecognizable France.</i></b>”<b> [9] </b>The documentary begins with scenes from an underground Koran school:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">It is not permitted to speak French here, only Arabic. Every day the first lesson studied is the Koran. Every genuine Muslim must learn by heart the 114 surahs of the holy book &#8230; Aysche and her eight sisters from Morocco have been wearing the burka since the age of two. Aysche’s family has never attempted to learn French &#8230; In this school exist no worldly laws. “<i>Worldly</i>” is translated in Arabic as “<i>anti-religious.</i>”</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote style="padding-left: 30px;">
<h3 style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>[A female student speaks:]</em> “I respect my religion. This is the reason I wear the burka. If France wishes to ban it, then it can ban it for the French women. For me, only Allah can ban it.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Last year three Islamic underground schools were closed. This school has therefore taken measures. It does not exist on the Internet nor in the city’s address book.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">In the Belleville area are practically no non-Muslims left.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote style="padding-left: 30px;">
<h3 style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>[A Russian migrant speaks:]</em> “Myself and my children have been attacked by [Muslim] youths several times.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">How many are here, no one knows. Between 6 and 8 million. That’s a European record. [About] 200,000 people enter legally year after year. Add to that another 200,000 who cross the border without papers.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote style="padding-left: 30px;">
<h3 style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>[Marine Le Pen speaks:]</em> “If we don’t want that, France has to hide behind a veil, then we have to stop the stream of migrants.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Forty-three percent of the migrants have never tried to work [and] 18% live below the poverty line, on the street.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote style="padding-left: 30px;">
<h3 style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>[A Russian-speaking Arab:]</em> “Netu raboty, netu nitsu evo.” [“There is no work, there is nothing.”]</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">The improvised city of the homeless lies directly under the windows of the Benedictine cathedral St. Denis. In the Basilica of St. Denis, you find the largest burial vault in France. There lie 25 kings, 10 queens and 80 princes. The grave of King Clovis is also there. He was the first of the Frank’s rulers to convert to Christianity. Charles Martel, who has entered history as savior of Europe from the Arabs, also rests in this cathedral &#8230; Now this suburb of Paris is the poorest and most criminal of all. Nine kilometers from the Champs Elysees, it is considered not necessary to speak French.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 2004 an ethnic French woman bore 1.7 children. The fertility rate of migrants from north Africa, black Africa and Turkey living in France are as follows:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">• Algeria 2.57 children per woman</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">• Black Africa 2.86 children per woman</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">• Tunisia 2.90 children per woman</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">• Morocco 2.97 children per woman</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">• Turkey 3.21 children per woman.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In view of the much higher birth rates of the migrant women compared to those of ethnic French women, and that 400,000 overwhelmingly Muslim migrants stream into France annually, partly legally, partly illegally, the ethnic French will, with mathematical certainty. within a few decades, be the minority in their own country if there is no timely change in direction.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>France’s present is intended for the rest of Europe’s future: as an example, nearly two decades ago Finland had a nearly 100% White population.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In contrast to many other European states, Finland had virtually no immigration to speak of. However, then a rapid increase began &#8230; Today, Somalis represent the largest African group in Finland. There are over 10,000 Somali-speaking people &#8230; The number of people with Somali background will, due to family reunion, increase in the near future &#8230; Immigration from other African countries to Finland has increased considerably since the 1990s.</p>
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<p><b>Jean Raspail</b>, the prophet of 1973, has long given up the belief of the survival of the Europeans. Thirty-one years after the publication of his masterpiece, Raspail called out in despair:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The whole of Europe marches to its death.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This shattering conclusion in no way applies only to the western half of the Old Continent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Russia’s demographic statistics also allow little hope for the future. In 2002 Patrick Buchanan stated:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“With a birthrate of 1.35 children per woman, Russia’s 147 million people fall to 114 million by 2050.” <b>[10]</b></span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Nevertheless, since 2010, Russia’s population has been on the increase. It stood at 146.1 minion at the end of 2014. So the situation is not hopeless.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Gloomier is the picture for a large part of Eastern Europe. As the social conditions in some Eastern European countries descend more and more to Third World standards, although these states do not attract masses of migrants from Africa, or Asia, they bleed following a decline in the birthrate and massive migration of their own population to Western Europe, or America. Bulgaria’s population sank from 8.981 million in 1988 to 7.246 million in 2013. The communist dictatorship, which restricted the rights of its citizens, but guaranteed the continuation of the Bulgarian population, was replaced by a democratic system that admittedly brought the Bulgarians various rights, including the right for gay parades. Their biological survival, however, was thereby threatened. The migrants who search for their luck in Western Europe and America belong naturally to the younger generation, and this decline runs parallel with a quickly aging population. Should this development continue, then a diminishing Bulgarian population inevitably will awaken a desire in their Turkish neighbors; just as the 1.355 billion today. and perhaps 1.7 billion Chinese tomorrow, continue to look with ever more covetous glances at a diminishing population in Siberia. Only a fool would rebuke the Turks and Chinese for that. On their side would be the right of the stronger, just as the right of the Americas was on the side of the European colonists and not the Indians.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The gloomy picture is balanced by the White population outside of the European continent being on retreat. In 2002 Patrick Buchanan believed that around the middle of the 21st century only every second U.S. citizen would belong to the White race. <b>[11]</b> Statistics today indicate this could happen much sooner. Also, in Canada and Australia the majority of their European origin population is on the defensive in light of continued migration — from Asia mainly.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">What is the Reason for This Development?</span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In his monumental work <b><i>Der Untergang des Abendlandes</i></b> (“<b><i>The Decline of the West</i></b>”), Oswald Spengler presented his view that each culture is allotted a certain lifespan. If that is correct, and should the life of the Occident and its bearer, the White race, according to immutable laws, have expired, one can lament, just as we can lament the imminent death of an old man whose organs are failing, but we are unable to prevent it. Important facts speak against the idea that Europeans, decades after World War II, entered old age and their announced death was the logical result of this development.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It is helpful here to use as a comparison the decline of Classical culture. The parallels to our situation today — turning away from religion, turning toward materialism, the emergence of the entertainment industry (then chariot races, gladiator fights; today Hollywood), decline of art and morals — is obvious. However, crucial differences come to mind. While the decline of ancient culture was a lengthy process extending over centuries, the abdication of Europe (including its outposts of North America and Australia) is happening at an unnatural pace. This can be recognized by the clear examples of Great Britain and France. They still owned mighty colonial empires after the end of World War II, but a few decades later were themselves colonized by their previous black and brown subjects.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Even more incomprehensible than the fast pace at which the abdication of White humanity from the historical world stage has taken place is the fact that this process is actively supported and even controlled by the elite in European countries. Certainly, traitors who collaborated with foreign intruders have always existed in all countries and at all times. However, the total elite of a great number of states encourage the displacement of their own population and citizens who oppose this development are exposed to ridicule and where possible hauled before courts and accused of “<i>racism</i>.” This is a phenomenon which finds no parallel in the past. It is also worth taking a closer look at these extraordinary elites.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Notes to Chapter 1:</b></span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>1.</b> Marin Prcda. Delirul, <b><i>Editura</i></b>, Cartea Romaneasca, Bucharest. 1975, p. 311.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>2.</b> Patrick Buchanan, <b><i>Death of the West</i></b>. St. Martin’s Press, New York. 2002, pp. 12-19 ff.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>3.</b> Jean Raspail, <b><i>Le Camp des Saints</i></b>, Robert Laffont, Paris, 1973.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>4.</b> “<i>Asylmssbrauch</i>,” ~ in <b><i>Zuerst</i></b>, Dee. 2013. p. 8 ff.</p>
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<p><b>5.</b> “<i>Integration gestrichen,</i>” <b><i>Zuerst</i></b>. Dee. 2013. p. 7.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>6.</strong> “<i>Fluchpunkt Athen</i>,” <b><i>Die Zeit</i></b>. 23 Sept. 2012.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>7.</b> Internet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>8.</b> <i>Ibid</i>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>9.</b> www.YouTube.com/watch?y=WYh124a8E</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>10.</b> Buchanan, <b><i>Death of the West</i></b>, p. 17.</p>
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<p><b>11.</b> <b><i>Death of the West</i></b>, p. 19.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong>Oswald Spengler</strong></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">CHAPTER TWO</span></h3>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">CONSPIRACY THEORIES?</span></h1>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In <b><i>The Decline of the West</i></b>, Oswald Spengler stressed that not all cultures die a natural death. He reminded us that the Aztec and Inca cultures did not die of old age, but were brutally destroyed by invaders. The same fate is now threatening the Europeans. [Note, however, that both the Aztecs and Incas were actually overthrown by the racially identical neighboring tribes of peoples they had enslaved and abused for generations, which were organized by racially different invaders, i.e., the Spaniards. — Ed.]</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Initially, this parallel may not be fitting, because the Aztecs and the Incas had no chance of defending themselves against the superior weapons of the Spanish conquistadors. In addition, there were the introduced epidemics against which they had no effective defense and thus could not prevent their own mass extermination. In contrast to this state of affairs, it is easily possible for the Europeans to stop this influx of immigrants overnight. How this can be achieved was indicated in the previous chapter. If the political will is there, then it is quite possible to remove from Europe the culturally foreign and racially different immigrants, and the way to do it will be discussed in the final chapter of this book.</p>
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<p>But it is exactly the will of the ruling elites of Western and Central Europe that is missing. Not only this, but they also desire this influx of foreigners and support any program that facilitates such developments, just as the US elites for decades have been encouraging the immigration of Mexicans and non-Whites.</p>
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<p><b>In other words, the real enemy of the Europeans is their own elites.</b> The innocent migrants from Africa and Asia merely serve as instruments in the process of destroying the traditional society and European culture together with its creators and carriers, the White peoples of the old continent. They are, in effect, the foot soldiers, the infantry, without whom officers cannot conduct a war.</p>
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<p>To take the analogy further, the officers’ corps, with one, or two exceptions, has members from most ruling parties of Western and Central Europe, the gurus of the entertainment industry, the leading intellectuals as well as from the publishers and journalists of the controlled media. Any differences existing between the various parties, newspapers and television channels are today only microscopic. Whether the <b>CDU</b>/<b>CSU</b> governs alone in Germany, or with an <b>SPD</b> coalition, or whether the <b>SPD</b> forms a government with the <b>Greens</b> makes no marked difference. This also applies in Great Britain, France and other European countries where the electors can choose between conservatives, liberals, socialists, or Greens — all have adopted the same anti-nationalist policies of increasing poverty, cultural destruction and national death as well as the subjugation to the world hegemony of the U.S.A. The freedom to vote for any of these parties is like the choice between Coca-Cola and Pepsi Cola.</p>
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<p>This is especially applicable to migration politics. The Left and the Greens on the one hand and the centralists and the Right on the other may only disagree about the rate at which indigenous people are to be brought into a multicultural, mixed race society. The Left and the Greens wish to accomplish this process as quickly as possible while the centralists and the Right are quite happy with the speed at which this is progressing. For example, in Germany the Greens, the Left and the SPD would like to see the German people disappear overnight, while for the CDU-CSU it suffices if this process occurs tomorrow.</p>
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<p>Parties that are not enthusiastic about “<i>multicultural</i>” blessings will not participate in governments. They are despised and defamed by the establishment media.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That not all European countries are marching to the same tune into the abyss is self-evident. As mentioned in the <b>Introduction</b>, Switzerland is in a far better position than, for example, Germany, France, or Britain. First, this is, because it has a citizen initiated referendum mechanism that can be activated through a large number of signatures. Second, the second largest Swiss party does at least nominally represent Swiss interests. In Hungary the party in power, <b>Fidesz</b>, has committed itself to representing traditional Christian values, and thereby is condemned in other countries. Unfortunately, such hopeful signs do not produce an optimistic picture for the European continent as such.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Basic Thesis of this Book</span></h3>
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<p>The ruling elites of Western and Central Europe — as well as in the U.S.A. — aim to extinguish the White people through racial mixing. In order to achieve this, they actively encourage migration from Third World countries. As well, they encourage the birth rate of indigenous Europeans to fall. This is achieved through legalized abortions, as well as implementing financial policies that are detrimental to large families, but assist couples without children. Likewise, the propagation of homosexuality and the implementation of the obscenity of “<i>gender mainstreaming</i>” serve to achieve the goal.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyone who propounds such views is immediately attacked as a “<i>conspiracy theorist.</i>” Before we elaborate on this accusation, let us first focus on the question of how the ruling system in Europe handles critics who dare challenge the prevailing dogma.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like Tibetan prayer wheels, the politicians of the West repeat the same mantra: the first thing is human rights, which can only be realized within a democracy, to which is added tolerance and free expression. For example, on May 15, 1995, then-German President <b>Roman Herzog</b>, when awarding the German Book Publishers Peace Prize to Islamic scholar <b>Annemarie Schimmel</b>, stated:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“When we begin a dialogue with others we bring into it some non-negotiable essentials. Free expression is one of these, and this means no one is to suffer, because of held convictions. A long and often bloody and cruel history has taught us Europeans that these rights must never become negotiable again &#8230; A dialogue is only possible when no one needs to fear that, because of an expressed opinion there is a possibility of imprisonment, torture, or murder. I repeat, for us human rights are non-negotiable, the dignity of the individual &#8230; freedom of expression, of religion and ideological conviction.”</span></h3>
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<p>Herzog’s hypocrisy was abhorrent. Only shortly before this had the television and press broadcast their sensationalized reports on former teacher and <b>NPD</b> chairman <b>Gunter Deckert</b>, who had been sentenced to two years in prison for “<i>inciting racial hatred.</i>”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In November 1991, Deckert had invited the US execution engineer <b>Fred Leuchter</b> — who in his report concluded that on technical grounds the gas chambers at Auschwitz could not have operated — to address the NPD, which address Deckert translated. For this, the Mannheim District Court sentenced him to a one year prison sentence, suspended. He appealed. The Federal Court quashed the sentence and ordered a retrial. In 1994 a new sentence was handed down. Presiding <b>Judge</b> <b>Rainer Orlet</b>, <b>Judge</b> <b>Dr. Muelle</b>r and <b>Mrs. Folkerts</b> confirmed the original sentence, but gave the accused an excellent character reference — “<i>strong character, responsible personality with clear principles.</i>”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>A storm of protest fell over Germany as if <b>Heinrich Himmler </b>had posthumously received the Nobel Peace Prize. In a new trial the federal judgment was vacated and, in April 1994, Gunter Deckert was sentenced to two years in prison without parole. This did not prevent this courageous man from continuing to air his Revisionist views openly. To date he has spent more than five years in prison.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Exactly three weeks before the quoted address by President Herzog wherein he sang the praises of free expression, the magazine <b><i>Focus</i></b> reported:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Rainer Voss, chairman of the German Association of Judges, stated the decision of the Regional Court of Karlsruhe was appropriate, which had sentenced the NPD national chairman Gunter Deckert to two years in prison without parole on Friday. The decision of the court that by denying the gas chamber murders Deckert had committed a dangerous intellectual arson, filled the Judges’ Association chairman with satisfaction&#8230;. The chairman of the <b>Central Council of Jews</b>, <b>Ignatz Bubis</b>, stated that the Karlsruhe court thus drew the correct conclusions &#8230; given the damage thus incurred, so the Secretary General of the <b>FDP</b>, <b>Guido Westerwelle</b>, the penalty imposed against Deckert is justifiable. Party colleague and Bundestag Vice President Burkhard Hirsch [said]:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[This chapter finishes off with a discussion on how 9/11 was clearly an “<i>inside job</i>” perpetrated by the same forces pushing for a “<i>New [Jew] World Order</i>” — KATANA]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Here’s the transcript of an audio interview by John Friend with Eric Hunt about his revisionist video making, and his latest video, “<b><i>Questioning the Holocaust, Why We Believed — Part One</i></b>”.</span></p>
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<p><b>by John Friend</b></p>
<p>On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined by Eric Hunt, one the top revisionists in the world today. Eric has made numerous documentary films thoroughly debunking the fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative of WWII, one of the greatest deceptions ever foisted upon humanity. In this podcast, Eric and I discuss his latest documentary project <strong><a class="external" href="http://questioningtheholocaust.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Question “The Holocaust,”</a></strong> including the recently released film <strong><a class="external" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Questioning “The Holocaust” – Why We Believed</a></strong>. We also address a number of other topics related to the fake “Holocaust” narrative, and how his weaponized version of history has been effectively used against the White Western world.</p>
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<p><b>Intro: </b>You’re listening to the <strong>Realist Report</strong>. Here’s your host, <strong>John Friend</strong>.</p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>All right folks welcome back to another edition of the Realist Report. This is your host, John Friend. Joining me on the line today is <strong>Eric Hunt</strong>, one of the top revisionists in the world today. Eric, welcome to the program. How are you today, sir?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Hi John, I’m great. I’m happy to talk to you again.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Yes! Excellent! I’m glad you could be here. It’s been a while since we since we last spoke. I’ve had you on the program, it’s probably been a couple, you know, at least two years. So, I guess, just to get started how are things going, how have you been?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’ve been well. I’ve been able to do some traveling and sort of research for this video that’s been released. I was able to go to Auschwitz last summer, which was, you know, basically the highlight so far of someone who’s been researching this for, in-depth, for over a decade. So it’s been an interesting time since I’ve last spoken to you.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right, yeah and you’ve done a lot, you know, you’ve produced a lot of documentaries dealing with the holocaust. And I think the last time I had you on we talked specifically about the, “<span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47rbRNSGQUs"><b><i>Treblinka Archaeology Hoax</i></b></a></span>” which was a documentary you produced. And I guess just get started could you talk about some of your previous documentaries. I know you’ve made, “<span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8"><b><i>The Last Days of the Big Lie</i></b></a></span>”. Which was the first documentary that I saw, that you produced, and that’s really a must see for anybody out there that’s interested in the subject. But you’ve also produced, you know, a couple other documentaries. So, could you maybe just sort of, you know, summarize your previous work?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Sure. The first one, first major thing I’ve done was called, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8"><b><i>The Last Days of the Big Lie</i></b></a>”. It was, you know, it’s sort of tough to, to be held to this high standard as if these are films and, you know, real documentaries. It’s really, these things are made on shoestring budgets. It’s just one guy. And we’re doing, I’m doing the best I can to sort of debunk a lot of these false histories. Some of these really terrible liars that are promoted to the forefront of this “<i>Holocaust</i>” story, if you will. So, I felt the best way to debunk this, this video, well, this film, it’s actually an Oscar award winning documentary called, “<b><i>The Last Days</i></b>” produced by <b>Steven Spielberg</b>, was to sort of make a video, documentary itself, sort of debunking the documentary.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, since then I’ve been sort of releasing things in this sort of feature-length documentary format. Mostly to just, &#8230; I think it’s interesting for people, they sort of think they’re movies, but really with what I’m working with, I view them more as just presentations of, sort of, what I’ve discovered so far.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1809-Zisblatt-The-Fifth-Diamond.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22490 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1809-Zisblatt-The-Fifth-Diamond.jpg" alt="" width="731" height="473" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1809-Zisblatt-The-Fifth-Diamond.jpg 731w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1809-Zisblatt-The-Fifth-Diamond-600x388.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 731px) 100vw, 731px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<b><i>The Last Days of the Big Lie</i></b>” debunks, like I said, the academy award-winning documentary, “<b><i>The Last Days</i></b>” which features <b>Irene Zisblatt</b>. Who, if you’ve heard of her, you might of you might have gotten the message through that video, this is the woman who claims she repeatedly defecated and swallowed diamonds for a year and a half while in Auschwitz and on death marches. She claims <b>Dr Mengele</b> removed her Auschwitz tattoo.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">She claims she was selected to have her skin turned into a lampshade. She claimed she escaped from inside of a gas chamber and was thrown over an electrified barbed wire fence, over one hundred fifty feet, onto a train.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, not only that, there’s many many other lies that this woman tells that are debunked in that film. And it’s just sort of incredible to, to realize how no major film critics, even Pulitzer Prize winning film critics like <b>Roger Ebert</b>, ever question that this woman was not telling the truth. And it, it’s about, just brainwashing in the public. So that’s “<b><i>The Last Days of the Big Lie</i></b>”.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I was just recently told it’s five year anniversary, it was apparently released on May 1st, five years ago, so that’s five years old. It’s a bit rough, but the facts are pretty interesting, pretty exciting. So if people haven’t checked that out, check that out.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Some of the other movies I’m proud of are the, “<b><i>Treblinka Archaeology Hoax</i></b>”. This is sort of another debugging of another documentary. This was British produced program, I believe it was called, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVbmDfTv1nc"><b><i>Treblinka, Inside Hitler’s Secret Death Camp</i></b></a>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s about an archaeologist, <b>Caroline Sturdy Colls</b>, who went to Treblinka. And they filmed it like a Reality TV show, where she’s going to prove that the Holocaust deniers are wrong. That these revisionists are wrong and that there is evidence at Treblinka that 900,000 Jews were gassed, buried, dug back up and re-buried.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, when you examine this documentary, in particular, the case is just not acceptable! For instance, if you’re on a jury and you’re you’re told to convict based on the evidence shown in this film, there’s very little, &#8230; I wouldn’t be able to convict. You know, the chief rabbi of Poland explicitly forbids this, archaeologists from digging near the alleged mass graves. So what evidence do they present? It’s a lot of smoke and mirrors. Almost literally, you could see in the presentation that they use a lot of color correction, and of course the violins to really trick people into believing in the story.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And after, that was the, “<a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R6mTTrOlzE"><b><i>Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth</i></b></a>”. Majdanek is a bit of a microcosm of the larger holocaust story. Originally the Soviets claimed over two million were gassed in this factory of death. But, thanks in large part to revisionists, especially <b>Carlo Mattogno</b> and <b>Jürgen Graf</b> — Graf, who published a book about Majdanek — the official death toll has been revised to 78,000 including both Jews, Poles and others. Although or some revisionist claim that is also an exaggeration. And the number of alleged gas chambers there have, has been reduced from seven down to two. So, the Majdanek gas chamber myth is sort of showing you how the story’s been revised. How they originally claimed that drying facilities for the laundry were homicidal gas chambers. And interesting, I’m pretty happy about that, but it’s, I think more people need to see that, so check it out.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And most recently “<a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM"><b><i>Questioning the Holocaust, Why We Believed — Part One</i></b></a>” is out. Now, this sort of an introduction to “<em>Holocaust</em>” revisionism. Why there are revisionists and how the masses were tricked into believing this story of gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. As well as showing how some of this imagery of corpses, taken after camp liberations, doesn’t prove what we’re told it does.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Exactly. Yeah, and I think that’s so important, because I think, you know, most people simply accept the official holocaust narrative, because all of the propaganda that’s associated with it, is so traumatizing and emotional. And they don’t really stop and think about, you know, the information they’re consuming. And this, your latest video kind of does a good job of explaining this all and kind of breaking this all down.</p>
<p>And I just wanted to mention, if you just do a Google search for any of your previous documentaries you should be able to find him on YouTube and watch them. And each one of them as you mentioned kind of deals with a different aspect of the holocaust. “<b><i>The Last Days of the Big Lie</i></b>” kind of, you know, exposes a lot of these alleged holocaust survivors for the total liars and just frauds that they really are. And then of course, “<b><i>The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax</i></b>” deals with that specific, you know, alleged death camp, and the same thing with “<b><i>Majdanek</i></b>”.</p>
<p>And this latest documentary, &#8230; So this is, just to be clear, and by the way that the web site is, <b>questioningtheholocaust.com</b>. And I will have a link when I post this program over to your site where you can check out your, you know, your latest documentary. Which is part one of two. And you can also send in a donation, which I encourage people do, as well to support your work. So really, you’re main goal, if I understand you correctly, with this latest project, is kind of, you know, just breaking this all down and explaining to people, how it, how it is been that we’ve been deceived. And, you know, some of the, some of the tricks that have been used against us?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, yeah. There’s, you know, a lot of revisionists are pretty high level advanced scholars at this point. <b>Carlo Mattogno</b> and <b>Jürgen Graf</b>, <b>Germar Rudolf</b>, they’ve been at this for twenty-five, thirty years or more, some of them. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it goes, a lot of the stuff they publish goes over the heads of those who are just new to this and skeptical, sort of want to hear our story. And also, some of the people that come to this knowledge, they get a lot of the facts, a little bit wrong at the beginning. I’m guilty of this it myself. And I sort of want to put out a case that people new to this, or are sort of excited to learn about this truth, can have a pretty good case, about what we’ve discovered and stand by the facts. It’s for the beginner, but, there is stuff in there that even people who have some advanced knowledge about revisionism, will be surprised to learn, I think.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right. Now this is, so this, your most recently released documentary, this is Part One, there’s going to be a second part. Do you have a release date for the second part?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I don’t. I’ve been at this particular thing for about a year and a half now and I sort of want to let people know I’m still here and I want to improve production values. And yes, in the past, I’ve been a little bit embarrassed to ask for donations and things like this, but this is the only way we can really continue to focus all this time, energy and money of my own, onto these productions.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">For this last video I was able to travel both to Auschwitz and to the Washington DC <strong>Holocaust Memorial Museum</strong> and filmed at both places. So, if you appreciate this first part of the video, I would really appreciate some donations to help me really continue work on this, and release Part Two, hopefully before fall of this year.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1838-US-Holocaust-Memorial-Museum.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22496 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1838-US-Holocaust-Memorial-Museum.jpg" alt="" width="1074" height="528" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1838-US-Holocaust-Memorial-Museum.jpg 1074w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1838-US-Holocaust-Memorial-Museum-600x295.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1838-US-Holocaust-Memorial-Museum-768x378.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1838-US-Holocaust-Memorial-Museum-1024x503.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1074px) 100vw, 1074px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum </b>located in Washington DC.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Excellent. Yeah, and I think it is very important work. I mean look at this, look at the whole holocaust industry. These jews have literally billions and billions of dollars going into this industry, promoting it, perpetuating it. You know, they’re making Hollywood films left and right, you know, to re-instill this idea of the holocaust into our minds. And it’s a gigantic, I mean it’s a gigantic scam, it’s a big financial swindle. But it’s a huge, it’s a huge industry. I mean it literally is in as an industry at this point.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, and we need an industry of our own to compete with this. A real major reason why people believe is just the power of the production values that, that they’ve been bombarded with. You know, these million dollars, Steven Spielberg directed films, you know, they have soundtracks with these violins, and the color correction that makes it look like a horror movie. And I have aimed to improve production values of my videos. They’re still pretty crude, but I am making an appeal, I think I’ve stuck by my claims that I’m trying to improve my production values, and I hope people see this and realize that we can have an industry of our own.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I was talking to Kyle Hunt, who had his film, “<a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUt-yxJODxI"><b><i>Hellstorm</i></b></a>” recently screened at a film festival in a movie theater. Could you imagine if some of our films were actually, openly screened in movie theaters? What if we had control of an industry? Not necessarily the entire film industry but, we know gays have their own film industry, we know Christians have a Christian film industry. How about people who don’t think Germans are pure evil, how about that?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1843-Hellstorm.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22499 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1843-Hellstorm.jpg" alt="" width="527" height="297" /></a></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Exactly, yes. And that was huge. I was really glad to see that [Kyle] Hunt was able to get his documentary, “<b><i>Hellstorm</i></b>” into that film festival. My goodness, that was quite an accomplishment. And frankly I’m surprised that they let him screen it. That’s kind of, &#8230; Oh I mean, I’m glad that he did but, you know, it’s kind of surprising to me. Considering how much control influence the organized jewish community has. And this really is their bread and butter. This is their whole entire power really, I would argue. At least now in a modern context is sort of centered around this fake story.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, and it’s not only that. I mean, for many years I wondered if, what I was doing was a waste of time, and I think last year, with this outright invasion of Germany, it became obvious that I was doing the right thing. These people, the German people have been abused and manipulated to hate themselves and embrace their own extermination, if you will, for over seventy years now. And by debunking a lot of the false claims about them, we are the good guys, we are doing the right thing. We need to oppose this other industry that is perpetuating this genocidal lie at this point.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>I completely agree with you, and it’s, I mean really this is, it’s such a big issue for me. I talk about this all the time, I try to highlight it as much as I can. Because it’s always in the news, you can always find a story about the fake holocaust. And I wanted to ask you, really, sort of the best way to explain all of the different issues relating to the holocaust, to kind of break it down and, you know, for an average person.</p>
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<p>And one thing that I’ve kind of came to the conclusion is, you know, when you look at the holocaust, it really is just an extension of, you know, anti-German propaganda, going all the way back to World War One and even before World War One, right? And really it’s this this horror story that these Jews have told us, that’s become institutionalized and almost no part of the story is true.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1942-Belesn-British-army-vechicles-pass-Danger-Typhus-sign.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22513 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1942-Belesn-British-army-vechicles-pass-Danger-Typhus-sign.jpg" alt="" width="795" height="771" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1942-Belesn-British-army-vechicles-pass-Danger-Typhus-sign.jpg 795w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1942-Belesn-British-army-vechicles-pass-Danger-Typhus-sign-600x582.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1942-Belesn-British-army-vechicles-pass-Danger-Typhus-sign-768x745.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 795px) 100vw, 795px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] April, 1945, the British Army approaches Belsen Concentration Camp. Vehicles pass a warning sign reading “<i>Danger Typhus</i>” on the outskirts of the neutral exclusion zone set in place to prevent spread of disease.</span></p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">While it’s hard, because it goes back to when you were a child. When I was a child I remember, and I’m sure you also probably remember, we were shown these pictures of emaciated, skeletal human bodies being thrown into mass graves. I remember seeing the Bergen-Belsen bulldozer footage projected on a big screen at a local firehouse.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1941-Belsen-partially-excavated-mass-grave-in-the-camp.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22512 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1941-Belsen-partially-excavated-mass-grave-in-the-camp.jpg" alt="" width="797" height="779" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1941-Belsen-partially-excavated-mass-grave-in-the-camp.jpg 797w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1941-Belsen-partially-excavated-mass-grave-in-the-camp-600x586.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1941-Belsen-partially-excavated-mass-grave-in-the-camp-768x751.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 797px) 100vw, 797px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] April, 1945, a partially excavated mass grave in the camp. In the background, tents provide emergency accommodation while a British Army bulldozer waits to recommence work.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1940-Belsen-British-Army-bulldozer-pushing-bodies.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22511 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1940-Belsen-British-Army-bulldozer-pushing-bodies.jpg" alt="" width="794" height="716" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1940-Belsen-British-Army-bulldozer-pushing-bodies.jpg 794w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1940-Belsen-British-Army-bulldozer-pushing-bodies-600x541.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1940-Belsen-British-Army-bulldozer-pushing-bodies-768x693.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 794px) 100vw, 794px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] April, 1945, a British Army bulldozer pushes bodies into a mass grave at Belsen. The driver of the bulldozer wears a protective handkerchief over his mouth and nose.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It was apparently the, I believe it was the History Channel, or something like this. So you were traumatized at an early age. Trauma based mind control. To believe that the Germans, that, especially that footage was essentially of the Germans meeting their quota of gassed Jews for the day. That was a job well done, right? Rather than it being a total disaster, which came about as a result of a collapse of hygiene measures and the Germans losing the war.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, I think a large part of this new video focuses on the footage of these bodies at Bergen-Belsen, as well as the, quote Dachau death trains and Nordhaus, where the bodies we see were actually literally bombed and strafed by British airplanes, before the American filmmakers got there. So it comes down to, as a child we were all shown these horrible images. I think as David Duke points out, this is probably the first naked body we’ve seen of the other sex, and this is jarring for someone to see. You know, these dysentery and typhus victims being thrown into a grave, with a bulldozer. But it has nothing to do with gas chambers disguised as shower rooms.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s not even that surprising when you look at the history of warfare and typhus, which is called camp fever, prison fever, and just the history of Europe as far as typhus epidemics. So that, as well as the various books we were forced to read as children, from the diary of Anne Frank, which has recently been approved, been admitted to have been co-written by her father, to Elie Wiesel’s “<strong><em>Night</em></strong>”, which includes a total fiction about dump trucks full of babies being dumped into flaming pits of fire at the entrance of Birkenau. Which is total nonsense.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1950-Anne-Frank-Lampshade-signed.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22516 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1950-Anne-Frank-Lampshade-signed.jpg" alt="" width="738" height="618" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1950-Anne-Frank-Lampshade-signed.jpg 738w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1950-Anne-Frank-Lampshade-signed-600x502.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px" /></a></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>See and that’s what I mean by, it’s literally a horror story that these jews have created and you know, it’s a fictional story, but they’ve just institutionalized it. And people actually believe this crap!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1842-Hellboy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22498 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1842-Hellboy.jpg" alt="" width="419" height="626" /></a></p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. It’s literal hell imagery, of demonization of Germans as if they have horns. We’ve seen the movie, “<b><i>Hellboy</i></b>”. He was made by the Nazis. He’s the literal walking demon and of course it’s down to video games now. You’ve got the “<b><i>Castle Wolfenstein</i></b>” games where you’re supposed to kill a German demon, demonic Germans and all this. So it’s your entire life you’ve been bombarded to hate Germans and essentially worship jews, in various ways.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>That’s right. Well, and I think you’re spot on. I mean, you know, most people, and, you know, I’ve, I have pretty extensive experience trying to talk to people, you know, just average people about the subject, because it’s, you know, sort of what I do, you know. I interview people and talk about the holocaust and jewish power. And, you know, other issues. And, you know, most people really don’t know anything about the holocaust or even World War Two. I mean they just know that Hitler was evil, they know that the Germans were evil. And they know that millions of Jews died. But they couldn’t really tell you how, I mean, you know, beside for maybe, you know, mentioning the gas chambers or whatever.</p>
<p>But they don’t know any of the details, and really they’ve been, as you said, traumatized by this imagery and by this emotional testimony. But they don’t know any of the details. None of these photographs are ever put in context. None of this information, you know, the nature of the camps has never explained, what was going on at the time, you know, the circumstances leading up to the allies taking over some of these camps. None of this is ever explained and these people have no idea about any of it.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah they probably can’t name, you know, many camps other than Auschwitz, maybe Dachau. They just assume that all these experts that they’ve seen on the television wouldn’t lie to them, I mean, Steven Spielberg. In many ways they just are suckers, they are impressed by the production values and they trust these professional experts to do their research for them. But, in many ways this video I put out recently is for them. I show <strong>Oprah Winfrey</strong>, who had <strong>Elie Wiesel</strong> on, and of course at the beginning of the video they got to show this is footage of these bodies. And I debunk them almost frame by frame. So, basically these people saw the bodies, like I said, as children, and that’s all! That’s it! That’s all they need to see is these horrible images of bodies, and that’s it.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1961-Oprah-Winfrey-and-Elie-Wiesel.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22521 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1961-Oprah-Winfrey-and-Elie-Wiesel.jpg" alt="" width="1198" height="896" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1961-Oprah-Winfrey-and-Elie-Wiesel.jpg 1198w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1961-Oprah-Winfrey-and-Elie-Wiesel-600x449.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1961-Oprah-Winfrey-and-Elie-Wiesel-768x574.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1961-Oprah-Winfrey-and-Elie-Wiesel-1024x766.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1198px) 100vw, 1198px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Oprah Winfrey</strong> and <strong>Elie Wiesel.</strong></span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>That’s right.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, it’s, a lot of revisionists you could say they, over, and it’s sort of like I said they’ve been in this many years so they were more interested in more advanced aspects of this thing. But it needs to be simplified as much as possible to try to get people to understand. That’s why I have, sort of focused on this, gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. And that does, in itself, doesn’t make much sense that, because sometimes we were told the gas came out of the shower heads, or all this other stuff. It just doesn’t sound like something the Germans would do, these brilliant engineers.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>It really is a ludicrous story, when you stop and think about it. It’s just so ridiculous that people would just blindly accept this.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">It sounds like a three little pigs, story of the big bad wolf, or like a Looney Tunes episode with the Wiley Coyote tricking them into going into a shower room and then dropping insecticide on them, it doesn’t add up. The Germans had specially designed equipment, as I point out in this video. The manufacture of Zyklon B, <b>Dagesh</b>, had specially designed equipment.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1951-Zyklon-B-granules-pellets.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22517 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1951-Zyklon-B-granules-pellets.jpg" alt="" width="917" height="549" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1951-Zyklon-B-granules-pellets.jpg 917w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1951-Zyklon-B-granules-pellets-600x359.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1951-Zyklon-B-granules-pellets-768x460.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 917px) 100vw, 917px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] A can of Zyklon B pellets.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">When you look at it today I’m still sort of surprised how, how complicated and brilliant it was. It was able to open an entire, in the clothing fumigation rooms, the clothing fumigation squads would put an entire can of Zyklon B into the holder, which had a can opener. Which would open the can and drop the pellets in. Hot air would be blown through a wire basket, which the pellets dropped into and circulated throughout the entire chamber.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1953-Dagesh-fumigation-machine.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22518 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1953-Dagesh-fumigation-machine.jpg" alt="" width="467" height="550" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] A Dagesh fumigation machine. A can of Zyklon B would be inserted at the top (indicated by arrow).</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, you know, wow that sounds like a great design to use if you’re trying to gas roomfuls of people, but, we’re told that didn’t happen. We’re told that they just threw these Zyklon B pellets through holes in the wall or through the ceiling and just waited. Doesn’t make a lot of sense.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right. Well, one of the things that I try to do is, when I’m talking to just average people, is really break down the three main premises of the official holocaust narrative.</p>
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<p>And I think the three main ones are that: Number one, Hitler and the Nazis designed a systematic plan to murder European jewry. Number two they did so largely utilizing homicidal gas chambers. And then number three, six million Jews were eventually murdered, during the course of the so-called &#8220;<em>holocaust</em>&#8220;.</p>
<p>And if you break these three basic premises down, you can easily refute each one, if you sort of just have a general understanding of what was going on at the time.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, yeah, I do that. Yeah, I repeat those three major things. It’s sort of the mantra of revisionists. It’s been used for many years to try, you know, because a lot of people did, you know, because of these liars like, <b>Wiesel</b> and <b>Lipstadt</b>, they want to claim that, quote holocaust deniers, deny that camps even existed. Which is absolutely absurd, because they still exist today, of course. So, people who have been turned against revisionism have been told total lies about what we believe which do sound absolutely crazy, you know. They are told that, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1939-Deborah-Lipstadt-and-Elie-Wiesel.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22510 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1939-Deborah-Lipstadt-and-Elie-Wiesel.jpg" alt="" width="697" height="540" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1939-Deborah-Lipstadt-and-Elie-Wiesel.jpg 697w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1939-Deborah-Lipstadt-and-Elie-Wiesel-600x465.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 697px) 100vw, 697px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Deborah Lipstadt</b> and <b>Elie Wiesel</b></span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Yeah. Well, I mean we would just dispute the nature of the camps and the purpose of the camps, right? That’s really what a boils down to.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, yeah. I mean, it’s just so, &#8230; So that’s why these people need to know those three main things, that no we don’t deny that there were these camps. As a matter of fact America had concentration camps for the Japanese. This is sort of how warfare was conducted at this time. I mean if you want to bring up a modern example of this, a lot of what Trump is saying was known, as far as, you know, not letting in Muslims who want to commit terrorism against Americans. This was common sense what leaders did back in the thirty’s and forty’s and etc.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, the victims of the <strong>Boston Marathon</strong><span style="color: #008000;"> [bombing]</span> would still be alive today, if they practiced essentially what was known before the, quote holocaust. Which is, you know, you gotta sort of contain people that might want to act as partisans and kill your own people. But that might be a diversion.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1932-Boston-Marathon-“victim”-being-wheeled-away..jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22509 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1932-Boston-Marathon-“victim”-being-wheeled-away..jpg" alt="" width="657" height="936" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1932-Boston-Marathon-“victim”-being-wheeled-away..jpg 657w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1932-Boston-Marathon-“victim”-being-wheeled-away.-600x855.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 657px) 100vw, 657px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Boston Marathon</strong> “<em>victim</em>” being wheeled away. The chances of him still being alive after having both legs blown off is slim, due to massive blood loss. The fact that he’s still conscious while sitting up in a wheelchair, is not credible (besides the negligent treatment he’s receiving here). This looks staged, but that&#8217;s another story for another day.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">But a, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Probably a good idea to isolate the people who are openly declaring war against you, right? I mean the Jews did that, the Jews openly declared war, an economic war against the Germans back in 1933.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, not only that, they were involved in partisan activity. Obviously funding Marxist groups that were committing violent acts against German soldiers at the time. They were blowing up train tracks, killing Germans. They were involved, far more than Japanese Americans, in aiding the murder of Germans.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>They were murdering German diplomatic officials as well. That was a huge thing going on at the time.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. So you don’t have to really say this, you don’t have to necessarily justify any of this. It’s just putting into historical context that both sides of the war put people into concentration camps that may have possibly helped killing citizens of their own country. Which they, the leaders usually put them first, back in the day, but after the holocaust everything, everything changes, after this, quote holocaust, you know.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So now, Germans have to be invaded by millions of Syrians, even though, they could just walk into Israel, if they if they are in such danger, right? Rather than go across the sea all the way to Germany.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image &#8211; click to enlarge] Map of the camps under Western Allies versus Soviet Union control.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>See, and that’s why I think debunking and exposing the fake holocaust is so important, because we still see it being used as a weapon, against not only Germany, but the entire idea to our Western world, anyways.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Absolutely! You know, there was a recent article I saw that, this really rabid Zionist is writing that <b><i>The New York Times</i></b> suppressed the holocaust story and now there’s a there’s an effort underway to find out why local American newspapers didn’t write anything about the holocaust. And essentially this is a way to blame Americans for not doing enough, soon enough, to stop the holocaust. So, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Yeah, I saw that Alan Dershowitz was out there making basically the same argument. You might even be referring to him.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Yeah. And again, they literally, the jews, literally blame the entire White race for the holocaust. I mean there’re quotes to that effect from multiple jewish leaders.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Absolutely! And, you know, when I was young and I’m in school, my grandfather was a mechanic in the American, U.S. Army’s paratrooper division and, you know, shouldn’t I be thanked? But, I mean, my family’s sacrifice, my father, my grandfather could’ve died somehow, quote, you know, liberating France and further. Shouldn’t I be thanked? I had nothing to do with this, my family had nothing to do with this. We tried to fight the good fight, right? But instead we are guilted with this as if we had something to do with it if we had blue eyes. Which is, it goes to another level.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Exactly. Well I wanted to ask you, what are some of the best sources, regarding the holocaust? What are some of the best books that you could maybe point to?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, check out “<b>holocausthandbooks.com</b>”. I actually have a new, I wrote an article that’s going to be featured in a book that just got released. It’s called, “<b><i>Curated Lies</i></b>” and it’s Carlo Mattogno’s book, and it’s really great. For instance, so the, the curators of the Auschwitz museum recently put out a book claiming to find these original German documents, which, you know, they read the tea leaves and they claim this is proof of the extermination program using gas chambers, right? But Carlo Mattogno and, you know, just breaks it down and makes fools of these people.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1846-Curated-Lies.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22500 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1846-Curated-Lies.jpg" alt="" width="663" height="992" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1846-Curated-Lies.jpg 663w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1846-Curated-Lies-600x898.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 663px) 100vw, 663px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] “<b><i>Curated Lies — The Auschwitz Museum’s Misrepresentations, Distortions and Deceptions</i></b>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">For instance they mis-translate a German word, I believe it’s, “<i>Brennstellen</i>”. And they claim this means there were nineteen burning pits at Auschwitz, that is referenced in this document. Well, Mattogno points out that they deliberately mis-translated this word, and it refers to nineteen “<em>electrical sockets</em>” at the power plant. So, this is just absolutely, when you consider people calling this a hoax, can it really be that simple that there’s deliberate mistranslations of words like this? And, well, yeah it is.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, I would like people to check out that book, it’s called, “<b><i>Curated Lies</i></b>”. You can get it on Amazon and also <b>holocausthandbooks.com</b>. They’ve got a lot of free books you could download there in PDF, in Kindle form. You know, there’s a lot of good books. I think everyone should should read, “<b><i>The Hoax of the Twentieth Century</i></b>” by Dr Arthur Butz. Also, “<b><i>Dissecting the Holocaust</i></b>” by Germar Rudolph. These are good books if you’re first getting into this to check out for some good summer beach reading!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1854-The-Hoax-of-the-Twentieth-Century-Dissecting-the-Holocaust.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22505 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1854-The-Hoax-of-the-Twentieth-Century-Dissecting-the-Holocaust.jpg" alt="" width="821" height="624" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1854-The-Hoax-of-the-Twentieth-Century-Dissecting-the-Holocaust.jpg 821w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1854-The-Hoax-of-the-Twentieth-Century-Dissecting-the-Holocaust-600x456.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1854-The-Hoax-of-the-Twentieth-Century-Dissecting-the-Holocaust-768x584.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 821px) 100vw, 821px" /></a></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly! Well, you see that’s the thing that’s so amazing to me, is that there really are dozens and dozens of books that have been written by very serious and scholarly individuals who have thoroughly debunked virtually every single aspect of the official holocaust narrative. It really has been conclusively demonstrated at this point that this story just is not true at all!</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, it’s, you know, sometimes, as has been said before, sometimes revisionist, even including myself, sometimes we doubt and waver, you know, whether what we’re doing is right. Maybe we’re wrong, but there needs to be some people holding the other side accountable, otherwise they can just quote total lies, like this, that nineteen electrical sockets somehow become nineteen burning pits of fire, where cremations of gassed Jews were going on.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, why should we apologize for holding these people accountable and why, especially when we could point out what we’re doing is right and true?</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Exactly yeah. Well and it’s not only that, it’s really a matter of free speech, and free expression, and freedom of historical inquiry, right? We should be able to investigate any aspect of our history, without any consequences, right? This is one of the most taboo subjects in the Western world today, and it’s just wrong we’re not allowed to question it or do serious research into it.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. I think, you know, was one of the, you know, when I was young I read “<b><i>1984</i></b>”, a few times. So, when we’re told, “<i>Who controls the past, controls the future</i>” and all this other propaganda, it really, you have to really be looking at this Holocaust story as an Orwellian tool against the world.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>It certainly is. Yes, that’s exactly what it is. And I mean people, this is got to be the most taboo subject. That the holocaust and Hitler and some of these racial issues, they&#8217;re all kind of tied together, right?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>You know, it’s like the most, I mean, you bring it up to people and they’re like, “<i>Whoa this guy’s crazy! He’s a Nazi!</i>” And that’s why I think it’s important to debunk all this stuff because it’s just not true. And it’s really holding the entire world back at this point.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, yeah. I mean, I think, you talk about progress and things like this. There is, I think there’s been a real stagnation in just intellectual progress since the, quote holocaust. I think, one second I’m trying to, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>It’s all good. I think you’re right! I mean, I think it really has retarded historical inquiry and scholarship and everything else. It’s degraded everything.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, I know you mentioned race, which is a real controversial subject. So, essentially the people in control have enacted, “<i>race denial</i>”. They are forcing others to become race deniers. Deny that the most obvious thing to anyone, the difference between black and White, is not true. And certainly that’s one of the things that got my attention when I was first becoming aware of revisionism and things like this. It was obvious there were racial differences, but we were told we were evil if we ever even think of that! And of course that’s connected to the holocaust and supposed theories that the Nazis had. So since, since the holocaust we can’t show that race is the real thing and not a social concept, construct.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right. Well, and that’s what I mean. I mean the fake holocaust story is tied into so many other aspects of what’s going on today. That this war against the White race – and I think that is exactly what’s going on – is fundamentally tied into this fake story.</p>
<p>And one question I had for you. After researching the holocaust so extensively, what are your views of Hitler now and National Socialist Germany, generally? I mean if you come to look at him. Have you come to look at Hitler and Germany in a totally different light now? Because most people just assume they were these evil monsters, basically.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know. I don’t think I’ve really changed much over the years. I really can’t support a lot of the militarism of Hitler. Of course, I think the anti-Slavic stuff was, seems nonsensical just when you consider the threats that are faced by Europeans today. That there would be hatred against Poles, for instance, which you can hardly distinguish them from Germans.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I am not really the biggest Hitler promoter, but I do view him as an important figure and philosopher and I’m not afraid to quote him, for instance, about what he says about the “<i>big lie</i>”. And a lot of people thought the “<i>big lie technique</i>” was something that Hitler and Geobbels used to trick the German masses. But in reality, he’s pointing out that Jews are the masters of the “<i>big lie</i>”. And Dr Arthur Butz pointed out that in this he basically prophesied the Holocaust. This big lie that we know of today.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Exactly! Yeah. It’s amazing reading that quote and that’s in Mein Kampf. I’ve read that quote many times on various radio programs and I’ve quoted it in different writings and blog posts that I’ve done. And I mean, it really is prophetic, the way it’s really a precise analysis of how the jews use the “<i>big lie technique</i>” to deceive the masses and to advance their agenda. He absolutely nailed it!</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, I think he even pointed out that he wasn’t even the first to point this out! Martin Luther and Schopenhauer have pointed this out before him.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right. Well, I’m wondering, do you consider yourself a, sort of like, a White nationalist nowadays, or just like a racial realist? How would you describe your racial views?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, when I was in high school I was in this club called the International Society and we learned about different people’s cultures. Actually as part of this club we went to the Holocaust Museum in DC. But anyway, I think all people, &#8230; I prefer culturalism to multiculturalism. Multiculturalism, it’s pretty obvious at this point, it’s used as the first step in a genocide against Europeans. So, I believe European people have a right to their own culture and heritage and genetics.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with you. I mean, I respect other cultures and want to learn about other cultures and visit other cultures, you know. I don’t see a problem with that, but you can see the agenda behind multiculturalism. And massive immigration, for example, these are all agendas that have always been promoted by the organized jewish community, in their efforts to undermine and pervert and ultimately destroy traditional Western countries. And that’s exactly what’s going on today.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">While in Israel they build a wall around the entire country and claim it’s the jewish homeland and they apparently even sterilized African immigrants! It’s a, quote some people say it’s a double standard but, it’s not at all. It’s their strategy to dominate.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right, it is. It’s the hypocrisy is so incredible, so amazing. And really so blatantly in your face, anymore.  I don’t understand how people can’t see it, you know.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah it’s been, I have, I’ve known this, I’ve known something was wrong, very, very, for many, very many years. So it’s sort of surprising that there’s still people who haven’t figured what’s up. But I think there’s signs that people are waking up and I think in many ways 2015, especially with these terrorist attacks and the rise of these, quote, far right parties, will be known as a turning point, if European people are able to regain control of their own destiny.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Yes I agree. And that kind of leads into another question I had for you. Do you view, revisionism, holocaust revisionism, and just telling the truth about World War Two and Hitler and National Socialism, as key to White liberation, and to this struggle to maintain the White race?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know there’s, there’s people within this, with two different strategies. One of them thinks we can sidestep the “<em>Holocaust</em>” issue and forge ahead. I’m not necessarily a promoter of that idea, but I wish them luck.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, I think it is key that we certainly don’t allow, whatever did happen during this time period, to allow us to essentially go extinct, to be exterminated, through the, the social engineering in motion to make us hated minorities in the countries as we founded. And eventually we see the other populations being turned against us and incited against us to commit violence by these jewish media owners.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>That’s right, yeah. And I don’t think that it can be avoided. I think we have to tell the truth about this subject! Not only just for the integrity of our society, but also  because it is used as a weapon against the White race and against White interests.</p>
<p>And see, if you think about it, the holocaust – and there’s public opinion polls that have been done –  the strongest aspect of jewish identity is this fake holocaust story. That this is how Jews identify. This is what resonates with them.</p>
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<p>And so the holocaust narrative is used to advance jewish interests. It’s used as a way to strengthen jewish identity. And of course we talked about the whole industry that surrounds it, the financial benefits that come with it, the sympathy racket. So it’s used to strengthen jewish identity and to strengthen jewish interests, while demonizing, and ultimately rendering illegitimate White interests and White identity itself.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yet not only that, just even the concept of people continuing to be White at all. You know, we see blond hair and blue eyes demonized, everywhere. And the concept of, you know, as we see the progression from, you know, gay marriage to, now it’s Transgender bathrooms.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s talk about pedophilia normalisation. The same sort of progression is happening against Whites and White interests. Now, you’ll be considered racist if you don’t want to, if you want to have White children, for instance.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>I know, it’s so absurd. And the media will portray anybody who’s pro-White as somehow a Nazi who wants to murder Jews! I mean, that’s how ridiculous it is. And that’s how truly weaponized this narrative has been.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I think, going back to some of these last few questions. It’s important to understand the origins of why these Nazis supposedly, not supposedly, but why they hated jews. You know, at the United States Holocaust Museum, which I was there this last March filming for a new video, they have a kid’s exhibit.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Remember the Children: Daniel’s Story</b> is the Museum’s primary exhibition program for young people ages 8 and older. The exhibition tells the story of one family’s experiences during the “<i>Holocaust</i>” from the perspective of a boy growing up in National Socialist Germany between 1933 and 1945.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And of course, they’re told in this kid’s exhibit that they were hated just because they look different. But, that’s not true at all! It’s their behavior, it’s their actions and it’s their subversion, demoralization and theft. It’s various actions that causes people all over the world to have expelled them. What is it over one hundred twenty times now, from their countries?</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Yeah, it’s at least at one hundred and nine, that I know of. Or that’s often cited, yeah. I mean it’s literally over one hundred times these people have been in expelled because of their actions, right!</p>
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<p>And that’s interesting that you brought up your experience at the Holocaust Memorial Museum. I actually went there last fall and I took a bunch of photographs and walked around, and would you believe man, I walked in there, I walked up there to get in line, and of course there’s all these school kids out there lined up, hundreds of school kids.</p>
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<p>And the line was so long that they took a group of us to the back of the building to get in. And right when we walked in there’s this, quote unquote, &#8220;holocaust survivor&#8221; sitting at this table. And it’s got a sign on the table that says, “<em>Donations</em>”. You had to pay this guy to talk to him! <strong><span style="color: #008000;">[laughter from Eric]</span></strong> I mean, it’s such a racket. It’s so disgusting and people fall for this crap!</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, the weirdest thing, was one of those survivors, supposedly, that’s what they’re called, when I got there I was joking. I went with Germar Rudolf, he’s going to be hosting the video, and I was joking to him because I went as a school kid myself, twice with two different clubs, and I think, &#8230; No I went with the boy scouts one time and then, like I said, the International Society. So, I had a vague remembrance, so I was joking with him that I think it’s pretty vague and in the museum, you know, they keep it dark and sort of spooky, they don’t get into really, &#8230; I don’t think, I don’t know if we’ll have anything to really debunk, you know. I said, “<i>I don’t think they have any gas elevators</i>” or anything ridiculous like that. But sure enough, when you enter there, this survivor gives you cards, fake identification cards of literally fictional people that you’re supposed to assume the identity of.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image &#8211; click to enlarge] <strong>Identification Card</strong>, United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Washington DC.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">From the “<i>Education</i>” Section of the USHMM website: “<i>Designed as small booklets to be carried through the exhibition, the cards help visitors to personalize the historical events of the time. (…) The Museum has developed nearly 600 identification cards. Approximately half of them are about Holocaust survivors. These cards describe the experiences of those who hid or were rescued, as well as those who survived internment in ghettos and camps. The other half represent the experiences of people who died. (…) To create the identification cards, a team of five Museum staff members interviewed 130 survivors of the Holocaust. The survivors described their own experiences as well as those of relatives who died during the Holocaust. The identification cards were developed from those interviews and from other oral histories and written memoirs. Each identification card has four sections. The first section provides a biographical sketch of the person. The second describes the individual’s experiences from 1933 to 1939, while the third describes events during the war years. The final section describes the fate of the individual and explains the circumstances – to the extent that they are known – in which the individual either died or survived</i>”.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they put you on this elevator. Now this elevator looks literally like something from Disney World, Tower of Terror! It’s deliberately made to look like it’s decaying and rusted and falling apart. It looks like Hollywood special effect. So you’re put on this bizarre, decrepit elevator, it’s like a Holocaust elevator. And they bring you up to the top floor and they’re showing you, like I said these bodies of the liberation. So, yeah, we went into a gas elevator essentially.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Yeah, I know exactly what you’re talking about. What was your general thoughts on the museum?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, it was, &#8230; I went there when I was sort of in post production, you could say, on this latest video so, I was somewhat happy to see a lot of the issues and points I brought up, to to be reflected in the museum itself. Because, I vaguely sort of know that, &#8230; Why do Americans believe? We believe because we saw these terrible images of bodies. So, that’s the first thing you see when you get off the elevator. There is, you know, the camps, Western liberated camps, which today are not even claimed to have had homicidal gas chambers. In fact, a lot of these camps are overcrowded because, a lot of these people who were in Auschwitz, tens of thousands of them, who weren’t gassed, were crammed into these Western liberated camps as they were fleeing the Soviets. So, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>They were fleeing the Soviets, not the Germans! That’s the amazing part.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">A lot of them chose to, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>A lot of them chose to, &#8230; Exactly, yeah. That throws a major wrench in this whole idea that the Germans wanted to murder all these people. And I mean, of course, just the fact that they had hospitals and they were providing sanitary living conditions, and food, and whatnot, to these people. I mean, that totally debunks the idea that they wanted to murder them all.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, just like how did any survive? how did they even get to this the last stage where they’re there in these camps at the, after, like I said, after going through Auschwitz? It doesn’t add up.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right. Well, one thing that I really noticed about the museum was, of course, it’s very emotional. And it all plays on our emotions, the whole, almost every single exhibit in the entire thing. It’s all a big “<i>Feel sorry for the jews</i>”. That the poor innocent Jews, they didn’t do anything! They’ve sort of taught all these blacks and all these Mexicans that of course they didn’t do anything either. They are always innocent, and it’s always the evil White man at fault.</p>
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<p>But that’s really how the whole museum sort of operates. It’s feel sorry for the jews. They they are persecuted by these evil Germans. And there’s no objectivity or critical thought put in any of it.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, something interesting that, right after we got off the elevator, Germar pointed out, there’s a picture of some Germans, I think they looked like they might have been Brown Shirts. But they had signs that said, “<i>Stop Jewish Atrocity Propaganda</i>”. And I think this is, this is well before any of the, quote holocaust. There are these stories that the Germans were doing these bizarre things. So, &#8230; Wow! That’s a story in itself.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And of course there’s nothing about the fire bombing of German civilians, totally innocent. But, you know, it was really surprising to me, I mean what Germar said, is that it’s basically a totally one-sided view of the entire war. It’s obviously jewish supremacists, as if only their lives matter.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, what really surprised me was that I thought when I went there as a kid that there would be something like, “<i>Rah, rah! America, you saved us! Thank you! We’re so appreciative!</i>” but, I didn’t see any of that. There’s no, there’s no thanks for the Americans who risked their lives to liberate these camps of jews. It’s really like you said, it’s against the entire European people. All blame is on them.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>It is, yeah. Well there’s not only no thanks to us, there’s:</p>
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<h3>“You didn’t do enough, you didn’t, you guys didn’t intervene fast enough!” you know.</h3>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yup.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>These people have a lot of nerve, man! That’s for sure.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Chutzpah!</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Well, yeah, exactly! You know, I wanted to bring up a couple recent news items that I came across just earlier this morning and over the course of the past couple days. Just to demonstrate that literally this holocaust narrative is on display every single day. It’s being used to advance jewish interests and to demonize White people and to exploit White people.</p>
<p>Here’s an article from the <b><i>Jewish Daily Forward</i></b>. And many people know about this,  they’re still prosecuting and arresting Germans who worked at Auschwitz, or some of these other camps. Here’s the headline:</p>
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<h3>“Ninety four year old Auschwitz guard apologizes to victims in court”.</h3>
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<p>This poor guy was brought before court and charged with accessory to murder. I think it was 170,000 people. He worked at Auschwitz for a little bit. And they’re arresting this guy and he’s ninety four years old! I mean it’s just ridiculous!</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, it’s sick. It’s really sick. I think <b>Ursula Haverbeck</b> protested, maybe at that man’s [trial] but they already sentenced her to ten months in jail, but she’s appealing. She still has the courage to protest.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Ursula Haverbeck</b> has been sentenced (Nov 11, 2015) to 10 month&#8217;s imprisonment by the Hamburg District Court &#8220;<i>for doubting that people were &#8216;exterminated&#8217; by ‘gassing’ in the Nazi concentration camp in Auschwitz.</i>” More accurately, she is being punished for expressing this view in public.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">She’s eighty seven years old, I believe. And she’s protesting this. And apparently, I believe, that ninety three or four year old man was a doctor in the Auschwitz I main camp. So he didn’t even see anything that was supposedly happening in Birkenau, which is where all the massive amount of gassing was<span style="color: #008000;"> [allegedly]</span> happening. So, this is a doctor, that probably was used to save the lives of Germans<span style="color: #008000;"> [jews]</span>, had nothing to do with what is claimed, whatsoever, and probably wouldn’t have known about it, if it were happening.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Exactly, yeah. Well, and that’s also what’s really ironic about the whole Zyklon B narrative. Because, correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t that used to actually fumigate the clothing and the bedding of these inmates and to prevent typhus and other diseases from spreading. So in essence, it was used to save jewish lives, not kill them.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. It was used to kill deadly typhus carrying lice which during wartime especially it’s a particularly dangerous, especially in camps and prisons. Lot of filthy refugees can easily spread, cause an epidemic, which has occurred during World War I and throughout European history. So, Germans had this insecticide which is aiming to stem the scenes that we actually have seen of Bergen-Belsen. The use of Zyklon B was actually to save, save the lives of, not only the Jews, but also their guards. They didn’t want these deadly typhus carrying lice to be all throughout these camps system. So it was used also on barracks. It was life saving.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right, exactly. And also there were orders from the German government that if anybody, if any German official mistreated any of the inmates they would be punished. You know, they had very strict rules and regulations in place to make sure that these people were treated properly and humanely.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, you know, there were reprisals and things like this, especially on the Eastern Front, but, I think you’re referring to, I believe it’s an order by <b>Himmler</b> himself.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Right.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because he had heard of some of the wrong doings, I believe in the Buchenwald camp, <b>Judge Konrad Morgan</b> prosecuted <b>Commandant Koch</b> for some of the wrong doings, I believe murder of prisoners. So there was a system in the camps to prevent this wanton bloodshed that we’re told happened at these camps.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1963-Karl-Otto-Koch-and-wife-with-dog.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22524 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1963-Karl-Otto-Koch-and-wife-with-dog.jpg" alt="" width="617" height="661" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1963-Karl-Otto-Koch-and-wife-with-dog.jpg 617w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1963-Karl-Otto-Koch-and-wife-with-dog-600x643.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 617px) 100vw, 617px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <b>Karl-Otto Koch</b> was commander of a succession of concentration camps; Ilse entered the system when she became a guard/secretary at Sachsenhausen Camp in 1936. Otto commanded the camp at the time.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Otto and Ilse were subsequently investigated for embezzlement and murder conducted while Otto was Commandant of Buchenwald Concentration Camp. Otto had, apparently, drawn attention to himself by murdering SS medical personnel (who had examined him for suspected venereal disease). Ilse was discharged due to lack of evidence, but Otto was convicted in trial before SS judge Konrad Morgen. Koch was executed by firing squad on 5 April 1945, one week before American allied troops arrived to liberate the camp.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>I know man. It’s incredible how literally it is totally opposite the official narrative is from reality. I mean, like it’s exactly one hundred percent opposite of what we’ve been told. It’s just amazing!</p>
<p>I have two other articles I just want to mention here, really briefly. And these deal with these alleged holocaust survivors, which again I saw at the Holocaust Memorial Museum out in DC. And I’ve seen some of these people in classrooms actually. They come in and they literally traumatize these young kids. And junior high, for example, and even in high school. And this is an article that appeared in <b><i>The Times of Israel</i></b>, just the other day, just yesterday. And it says here:</p>
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<h3>“When teacher Mary Beth Donovan prepared her students to read Anne Frank’s diary, ten years ago, she screened a selection of the famous newsreel clips shot during the liberation of Nazi camps in 1945.”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.timesofisrael.com/boston-teacher-feted-for-averting-holocaust-denial-in-classroom/">http://www.timesofisrael.com/boston-teacher-feted-for-averting-holocaust-denial-in-classroom/</a></span></p>
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<p>And again those newsreel clips were very traumatizing and they showed all these horrific images. And article goes on to say here:</p>
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<h3>“Astoundingly, after watching the films, some of Donovan’s students began referring to the genocide and Anne Frank as fake events, that had not occurred. To fight the denial in her classroom, Donovan investigated local survivors who could speak with students about the genocide. She found several articles about Boston area survivor, Israel Izzy Arbiter, the former head of New England’s dwindling Survivor Association. The ninety one year old activist has addressed hundreds of groups through the years, from Boston to Berlin, and seemed a strong choice to convince Donovan students of the Shoah’s veracity.”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1930-The-New-England-Holocaust-Memorial-on-May-1-2016-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22507 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1930-The-New-England-Holocaust-Memorial-on-May-1-2016-.jpg" alt="" width="716" height="592" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1930-The-New-England-Holocaust-Memorial-on-May-1-2016-.jpg 716w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1930-The-New-England-Holocaust-Memorial-on-May-1-2016--600x496.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 716px) 100vw, 716px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] The New England Holocaust Memorial on May 1, 2016</span></p>
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<p>So again, these people are trotted into these classrooms, and they’re literally brainwashing these kids with this ridiculous propaganda.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, it’s just an oxymoron, you know, what you’re saying that, these people weren’t killed, here’s someone who wasn’t killed, to tell you about it.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Exactly! I know. Yeah. The Germans wanted to murder all the jews, but here’s someone who miraculously survived. And one thing I notice is if you listen to these people, they always say, it’s always like the same story, right? They always the only survivor of their entire family, or more maybe like one of their brothers survives or something, but they always say that their whole family was murdered. They were all wiped out and they have all these very vague descriptions of what happened. There’s no concrete details. It’s just amazing.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. And going back to that previous thing about the newsreels. It’s pretty surprising, there was a point I wanted to make in the movie, I just didn’t have time to but, there’s some footage of children at Bergen-Belsen liberated in. One of the children looks very much like <strong>Anne Frank</strong> and the real message is that the difference between this child, this young girl and Anne Frank, is that Anne Frank succumbed to typhus just days before. Bergen-Belsen was liberated. That’s all! Anne Frank was transited through Auschwitz, was never gassed, was fed, she was sent to Bergen-Belsen where she succumbed to the typhus epidemic. So, it’s when you look at the Anne Frank’s story in particular and some of the newsreel footage, yeah it doesn’t add up.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Yeah. It certainly doesn’t. Well there’s one final article and this is coming from the <b>Jewish Federation</b> of San Diego county. I live in San Diego county.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">All right.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>And as you know, most major cities they have Jewish Federations and jewish groups. And a major part of the Jewish Federation is promoting the holocaust story and inviting survivors to come speak. And getting money from local governments, from the county government, from the federal government to, &#8230;</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">In San Diego you had that creepy looking Mayor, what was his name, Filner?</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: Bob Filner</b>, yeah. Such a disgusting pervert. Yeah, he was a jew. He was in Congress for a while too, and he was the mayor and he was just a total disaster. I think he ended up getting recalled. I know he ended up getting thrown out of office and he’s no longer the mayor. But it was a huge scandal and of course the city paid for all of his legal fees. And paid for everything basically. So he didn’t even really get in all that much trouble besides from being embarrassed and being exposed as a major sexual deviant and pervert.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, I mean you’re talking about local government, it’s like. I’m sure he was involved with funneling money to these Holocaust organizations, things like this.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Oh, no doubt! Yeah, exactly. Well this lady that they do like a highlight of this alleged holocaust survivor named Marsha. And this is a quote from her, she says, “<i>I only live for the holocaust</i>”.<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughter from Eric]</span> This is what she’s saying, “<i>I only live for the holocaust</i>”. She wakes up every day and goes out and tells her fake story to traumatize people and to advance jewish interests.</p>
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<h3>“Wanting as much as possible and as many children as possible to hear her life story.”</h3>
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<p>I mean, this is what these people do man, they live and die for this fake holocaust story.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I mean, it’s the top promoters they know they’re spinning fiction and they enjoy it, they get a kick out of it. They, &#8230; A lot of them actually have a sort of artistic, they had an artistic bent already, some of them. Might have been interested in writing. And being poets, or some of them are painters, some of the actors, literally such as <strong>Dario Gabbai</strong>, the supposed sonderkommando. So, the top ones that are promoted to the forefront they, think it’s as  interesting as being on the Broadway stage and they revel in it.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1931-Dario-Gabbai-sonderkommando.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-22508 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1931-Dario-Gabbai-sonderkommando.jpg" alt="" width="670" height="525" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1931-Dario-Gabbai-sonderkommando.jpg 670w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Realist-Report-Interview-Eric-Hunt-1931-Dario-Gabbai-sonderkommando-600x470.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 670px) 100vw, 670px" /></a></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>They certainly do. And I mean, of course, there’s all sorts of financial benefits associated with it. It’s a very lucrative sort of business to be involved in.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, you know, what they say:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“There’s no business like Shoah business!”</span></h3>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Absolutely. Well, Eric I think we’re going to go ahead and wrap up. This is a good discussion. I’m glad to touch base with you again. I think you’re doing great work. And I really encourage people to go check out your documentaries, and to support your work if possible. Do you want to give out your website, one more time?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. It’s “questioningtheolocaust.com”. And like I said, I’m trying to improve these production values. We can do a lot with a little. And hopefully have people appreciate it they can donate. And also think about John here, you know, I heard about you and how you lost your job because of jewish pressure groups, essentially. And you sacrifice a lot, so. To some people this is entertainment that you and I are doing. But, I know you have felt the real boot coming down on you and, you know, what it’s difficult. I mean I know I’m banned from PayPal and I don’t know if you are.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Yeah. I got banned from PayPal.</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, hey guys, like, it’s embarrassing sometimes to ask for money but, we need it to continue to keep doing this and to improve what we’re doing. So, if you like what John’s doing, send him some money. If you like what I’m doing send me money<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span>! You got to, we want to keep growing. I think I’m holding my end of the bargain, I’m trying to improve these production values. John’s doing what he’s doing. So, yeah, I hope some people step forward. We have a lot of talent in this movement, it’s just a matter of funding it at this point.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>That’s right. Well, I really appreciate your words man. That means a lot to me and I think you’re doing great work and this is very important. I mean we got to set the record straight and debunk this fake story in our lifetimes. That’s my goal! I want people to be openly denying the holocaust in the next twenty years!</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Add me on Twitter,  @holocaustdenier.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>Oh nice. OK, very good, you are on twitter?</p>
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<p><b>Eric Hunt: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><b>John Friend: </b>OK, perfect. All right. Well Eric, thanks a lot man, I appreciate it. It’s always nice chatting with you. Will have to do this again in the future.</p>
<p>And yeah, I just want to thank everybody for tuning in today. We will talk to everybody very soon.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">See Also:</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/09/27/the-worlds-first-anti-holocaust-convention-instauration-dec-1979/" rel="bookmark">The World’s First Anti-Holocaust Convention — Instauration Dec, 1979</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/02/19/an-open-letter-to-new-jerseys-governor/" rel="bookmark">An Open Letter to New Jersey’s Governor</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2014/10/09/historians-or-hoaxers/" rel="bookmark">Historians or Hoaxers?</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2014/07/29/house-of-orwell/" rel="bookmark">House of Orwell</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2014/06/18/misha-surviving-with-wolves-or/" rel="bookmark">Misha: Surviving with Wolves or …</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/11/21/bradley-smiths-smith-report-1/" rel="bookmark">Bradley Smith’s Smith Report # 1</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/04/06/the-liberation-of-the-camps-facts-vs-lies/" rel="bookmark">The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/04/18/the-plum-cake/" rel="bookmark">The Plum Cake</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-%E2%80%94-Holocaust-Posts-%E2%80%94-PART-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23656 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-—-Holocaust-Posts-—-PART-2.jpg" alt="" width="699" height="975" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-—-Holocaust-Posts-—-PART-2.jpg 699w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-—-Holocaust-Posts-—-PART-2-600x837.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 699px) 100vw, 699px" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2014/11/14/auschwitz-myths-and-facts/" rel="bookmark">Auschwitz: Myths and Facts</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/08/06/powers-and-principalities-xi-ewen-cameron-mk-ultra-holocaust-revisionism-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Powers and Principalities XI – Ewen Cameron, MK-Ultra, Holocaust Revisionism — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/01/12/tales-of-the-holohoax-a-historians-assessment-part-1/" rel="bookmark">Tales of the Holohoax – A Historian’s Assessment – Part 1</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/04/06/the-holocaust-lie-made-in-america/" rel="bookmark">The Holocaust Lie — Made in America</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/12/28/probing-the-holocaust-the-horror-explained-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Probing the Holocaust: The Horror Explained — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/10/24/jim-rizoli-interviews-prof-robert-faurisson-oct-2015-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Jim Rizoli Interviews Prof Robert Faurisson, Oct 2015 — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/03/17/holocaust-eyewitnesses-is-the-testimony-reliable/" rel="bookmark">Holocaust Eyewitnesses: Is the Testimony Reliable?</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/11/06/alain-soral-my-homage-to-robert-faurisson-oct-2018-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Alain Soral – My Homage to Robert Faurisson, Oct 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2019/02/10/inside-auschwitz-youve-never-seen-this-before-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Inside Auschwitz – You’ve never seen THIS before! — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-%E2%80%94-Holocaust-Posts-%E2%80%94-PART-3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23657 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-—-Holocaust-Posts-—-PART-3.jpg" alt="" width="696" height="974" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-—-Holocaust-Posts-—-PART-3.jpg 696w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-—-Holocaust-Posts-—-PART-3-600x840.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/03/09/amazion-bans-100s-of-holocaust-revisionist-books/" rel="bookmark">Amazion Bans 100s of Holocaust Revisionist Books!</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2013/05/05/auschwitz-a-personal-account-by-thies-christophersen/" rel="bookmark">AUSCHWITZ – A Personal Account by Thies Christophersen</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/02/20/jim-rizoli-interviews-bradley-smith-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Jim Rizoli Interviews Bradley Smith — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/07/23/london-forum-alfred-schaefer-psychological-warfare-transcript/" rel="bookmark">London Forum – Alfred Schaefer – Psychological Warfare – TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/05/05/the-realist-report-interviews-eric-hunt-transcript/" rel="bookmark">The Realist Report Interviews Eric Hunt — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/08/02/red-ice-radio-germar-rudolf-persecution-of-revisionists-demographic-disaster-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Red Ice Radio – Germar Rudolf – Persecution of Revisionists &amp; Demographic Disaster – Part 1— TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/03/05/red-ice-radio-nicholas-kollerstrom-the-holocaust-myth-and-reality-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Red Ice Radio: Nicholas Kollerstrom — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/05/03/red-ice-tv-ingrid-carlqvist-scandal-in-sweden-when-ingrid-questions-the-unquestionable-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Red Ice TV – Ingrid Carlqvist – Scandal in Sweden When Ingrid Questions the Unquestionable — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/09/09/the-realist-report-with-carolyn-yeager-on-johnson-vs-anglin-debate-transcript/" rel="bookmark">The Realist Report with Carolyn Yeager on Johnson vs Anglin debate — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
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