Judge Napolitano: Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Wednesday, October second, 2024. Colonel Douglas Macgregor joins us now. Colonel, no matter what we’re about to discuss, it’s always a pleasure and a gift for me to be able to pick your brain.

 

So last week, President Zelensky came to the United States, visited an arms manufacturer in Scranton, Pennsylvania, gave a speech at the UN, made the rounds at Washington, went home empty handed. Prime Minister Netanyahu gave a very belligerent, belligerent, contemptuous speech to an empty General Assembly chamber, went to an office in the same building and ordered a murder 5,000 miles away, which took place. What do you see happening?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Well, as I understand it, that Zelensky did not go home completely empty handed, that some promises were made for more money and equipment.

 

Now, how much it was, I’ve heard various figures. I think we have to accept the fact that the war is obviously lost in Ukraine. I don’t think there are very many people who privately reject that notion, but they’re going to sustain the facade that there is a Ukrainian government of some significance in Kiev, at least until after the election. So he was treated accordingly.

 

I think the other issue is a much more serious one right now because everything strikes me in Washington as kind of being on Autopilot. We’re sort of flying as a nation in the direction of a major regional war in the Middle East. And we’re treating the Ukrainian disaster with the usual disinterest that arises when it becomes clear that you’ve lost. All of it is bad news for the American people. And what was even more striking to me than what you’ve mentioned is that last night the word “Ukraine” did not even come up for discussion. I had hoped that perhaps future Vice president Vance would have at least asked about Ukraine and what had happened to the hundreds of billions of dollars and many millions of tons of equipment and ammunition that had been shipped over there. But it never came up.

 

Judge Napolitano: How dangerous was the Israeli assassination of Nasrallah using 160,000 pounds of bombs to kill one person and a dozen or so people around him?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: I think we need to understand that it could not have happened at all without us. We have considerable ISR assets, air force and army navy engaged in supporting the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, and its attacks on Lebanon.

 

So I think that’s the first thing. We have the capability to harvest very sensitive information, voice and otherwise, that the Israelis simply don’t have. And then we can lase these targets, providing very exact data to the Israelis, which we did.

 

So I think we have to understand that when you see these kinds of successful operations take place, it’s not an “Israel only” operation by any means. Was it dangerous to do this? Not from the standpoint of Mr Netanyahu.

 

And I think we need to understand something that clearly is not understood in Tehran. I don’t think it’s understood in Moscow. And that is that Mr Netanyahu is waging a ruthless war of extermination against his enemies. He’s already told us who they are the people in Gaza, the Arabs on the West Bank, and the Arabs south of the Latani river who are part of Hezbollah.

 

And in the meantime, he’s also struck a number of very lucrative targets across Syria.

 

So this is a very powerful war that’s underway, and we’re on Autopilot. We’re just flying in the direction. We’re helping it, we’re enabling it, we’re pushing it. And I’m sure you’ve seen the interview with, I think it’s Colonel Jacques Baud who talks about the fact that we have been encouraging this behavior from the beginning. And I think we have, and we are!

 

So the American people aren’t being consulted and there’s really no debate about it because everyone in Washington is quite comfortable with what’s happening.

 

Judge Napolitano: Did the White House encourage the Israeli government to invade southern Lebanon?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: It would appear that they have. That seems to that seems to be widespread consensus. Nothing is happening that Washington has not wanted to happen. And that makes perfect sense, judge for the reasons I just outlined. We control all the resources and we have access to and dispose over very considerable sensitive technologies.

 

So if we don’t want something to happen, it’s not going to happen! And anything that does happen happens because we’ve allowed it.

 

Judge Napolitano: But by what constitutional or moral standard do we wage war against Hezbollah? We haven’t a declared war on Hezbollah, it poses no threat whatsoever to the United States. We don’t have a treaty of alliance with Israel. I’m wearing my constitutional scholar hat.

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Well, we’re in a strange set of relations with Israel that are analogous to some extent to FDR’s relations with the British Empire and the Soviet Union before World War Two. Very few people are aware that FDR dispatched Harry Hopkins to Moscow in July of 1941 to offer Stalin virtually anything he wanted and anything he needed. And we, of course, were not at war with Germany. The bombing at Pearl Harbor had not yet happened. We had a war ongoing for almost two and a half years, trying to provoke the Germans into attacking our warships when we actively aided the British and Canadian navies in moving supplies to Great Britain.

 

So this is a similar set of circumstances. And I think it also has potentially very grave consequences for us. But as you point out, none of this is constitutional. But very little of what FDR did was constitutional.

 

So I don’t think anyone is remotely interested in discussing constitutional law at the moment.

 

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Judge Napolitano: Well, what will the consequences to us be? Will it be Russia coming to the aid of Iran? Will it be American boys coming home in body bags?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Well, I think we have to reckon with some losses in the Middle East. I don’t see how we avoid them. We know that we’ve had losses in Ukraine. It’s simply being decided not to report those publicly and to dismiss the allegation that Americans have been killed in Ukraine by finding cover stories for them, dying in other settings, other places, particularly in the United States.

 

I think things in the Middle East will be different. It’ll be harder to provide those cover stories, harder to conceal. And the reason is very simple. This ruthless war of extermination is going to be confronted soon by overwhelming deadly force, provided first and foremost by Iran, also augmented and extended by Russia, and I would argue, eventually the rest of the Islamic world.

 

But we’ve always said this, and you judge, have had these discussions with others on your show. No one in the region wants a war with Israel and the United States. The only people that are interested in a war in the region consist of Israel and primarily us. That’s it! No one else really wants a war.

 

And this has now attracted the attention of everyone in the Islamic world. We’ve been listening to lots of harumps and harumps and threats, most of which have gone nowhere from Turkey.

 

But that is changing now. And the Turks are making it very clear that the catastrophic destruction of Lebanon is not something they’re going to stand by and tolerate. They’ve got three or 4 million refugees on their territory at the moment. They can’t take any more. A million people have left Lebanon. More than 7,000 people in Lebanon have been killed. And these are hardly Hezbollah fighters. All of this is coming together. We’re seeing action in Iraq, action in Syria, action in Yemen and Egypt and Jordan continue to reach a boiling point. Precisely when that will boil over and change the governments is anyone’s guess, but I think that’s inevitable.

 

So we’re on the march to a regional war that always has the potential to go global. The Russians are well prepared to fight now. They’re stronger militarily than they have been in 30 years. And the same thing is true, unfortunately, with China. The Chinese don’t want any sort of confrontation and they’re undoubtedly sweating bullets over the Straits of Hormuz. But the Israelis are determined to hit those Iranian oil facilities and I think we’re going to see that once that occurs, it will bring in the rest of the actors who are actively opposed to Israel.

 

Judge Napolitano: Tell me about Jordan. The population of Jordan cannot be in sync with the King. The King used the Jordanian military to help Israel defend itself the other night. When? I guess it was last night when, last night Israel time when Iran sent 200 missiles there. I’ll ask you about the missiles in a minute. But is the King of Jordan on thin ice because of the overwhelming, nearly unanimous view of the public over which he claims to reign, that Israel is the enemy?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Yes. Well, remember, the majority of the people serving in the Jordanian army tend to be Bedouin in origin. In other words, people from Bedouin origins, much like the King himself. But he’s got 11.2 million Palestinians living in Jordan, and they are very anxious to help their brothers on the West Bank and in Gaza. So they’re fuming.

 

When does this change? I know that the Iranians undoubtedly have agents on the ground in Jordan, probably pushing levers there in the hopes that the Jordanians will rise up, push the government out of business and take the reins of power themselves. I’d be very surprised if that was not also the case in Egypt.

 

In both cases, however, both sovereign leaders are entirely dependent upon the military. And as long as the military does not take them into custody, remove them, assassinate them, they will stay. The question is, where does the military stand at this point? I know from firsthand discussions, people just returning from Egypt, that the Egyptian military is ashamed of themselves and embarrassed that they are doing nothing against Israel. I suspect you have a similar attitude in Jordan,

 

Judge Napolitano: Chris, do we have the clip? It’s not on today’s list. But you still have the clip of King Abdullah of Jordan addressing the United Nations? He’ll look for that, colonel, and then I’ll ask you what you think of it. He was harshly critical, harshly critical of Israel at the UN, and then he used his military to defend Israel when the Iranians attacked.

 

What happened the other night? What type of weaponry was hurled by Iran at Israel, what got through and what damage was done, as far as you are able to understand, just, 24 hours later?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Right. Well, most of the weapon systems were medium range ballistic missiles, as I understand it. These are not hypersonic, most of them. How many of them ultimately penetrated or simply attracted attention from the air defense systems, the Arrow 2 or the Iron Dome or our own Patriot systems, I don’t know. But I do know that some number and I don’t know how many hypersonic missiles were used, and they all penetrated the air and missile defense system. No question about it.

 

Judge Napolitano: Did they reach, I don’t remember the name of its a major Israeli air base in the middle of the desert. It’s the place from which the jets that bombed and killed Nasrallah came into which they returned. Did the Iranian missiles reach that military base and do any damage there?

 

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Col Doug Macgregor: Well, they reached the base. I think it’s Hatzerim Air Base. At the same time, there were claims made that some F35s were damaged or destroyed along with some F16s. We have no way of confirming that, and that also seems unlikely. I imagine the Israelis probably launched most of those aircraft in order to ensure they were not on the ground when the missile attack started.

 

And remember, the Iranians signaled the United States and virtually everybody else when they were going to launch. This was another attempt to demonstrate, I think, Iran’s precision strike capability in a way that would awaken some concern in Washington and Jerusalem. It hasn’t!

 

In other words, this was another, if you will excuse the expression, a “wasted opportunity” on the Iranian side.

 

And I think they’re going to be hit very, very hard by the Israelis in response. The Israelis do not believe in symmetrical warfare. Everything they do is inevitably asymmetrical. In other words, if you want to kill the flea, you use a jackhammer, you don’t use a fly swatter.

 

And so I think Putin and Najee [sp] have been advising the Iranian leadership to embrace restraint on the assumption that if they restrain themselves, a war can be avoided and negotiations will take place and can sort things out. I don’t see any evidence for that.

 

I mean, Israel has failed thus far to achieve its objectives in Gaza. It’s also failing in its objectives against Hezbollah, although that has now just started on the ground. How serious it is, I don’t know.

 

And then they have not achieved their objective in Iran, which is to destroy that regime and remove Iran as a great power in the region, period. So those things are unachieved.

 

And I think there is no evidence that there’s any willingness under any circumstances in Jerusalem or Washington to contemplate any sort of talks or negotiations over anything until those objectives are secured.

 

Judge Napolitano: The two principal American diplomats slash bureaucrats negotiating or dealing with the Israeli government on a day to day, hour by hour basis for the United States, Brett McGurk and Amos Hochstein are bellicose and in favor of war. Are they not?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: That seems pretty clear. I don’t see any evidence to the contrary. So they’re not representing the supposed interest that exists, if it exists at all, inside the Beltway in Washington for a negotiated outcome.

 

On the contrary, they are completely aligned with what I just described.

 

Judge Napolitano: Right.

 

Col Doug Macgregor: So I think the Iranians have wasted time, money and resources. They should prepare for an all out assault which is coming. The same thing is true for Hezbollah.

 

So the time for restraint as far as they are concerned, I think, is over. But they’ll have to figure that out on their own.

 

Judge Napolitano: We’re going to play the clip from the King of Jordan. You tell me if this is sincere or if this is consistent with the behavior of his military the other night. Chris, while we’re playing this, can you find the comment? It may be here, and I just don’t see it by President Biden yesterday saying that whatever the Iranians did was defeated and ineffective.

 

But in the meantime, here’s the King of Jordan at the United Nations last week.

 

King Abdullah: In the absence of global accountability, repeated horrors are normalized, threatening to create a future where anything is permitted, anywhere in the world. Those who continue to propagate the idea of Jordan as an alternative homeland.

So let me be very, very clear. That will never happen! We will never accept the forced displacement of Palestinians, which is a war crime. For years, the Arab world has extended a hand to Israel through the Arab Peace Initiative, offering full recognition and normalization in exchange for peace. But consecutive Israeli governments, emboldened by years of impunity, have rejected peace and chosen confrontation instead.

 

Judge Napolitano: Trying to accomplish by speaking out of one side of his mouth and shooting weapons out of the other side, if you’ll pardon the awkward analogy.

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Well, he sounds like the man who beats his wife periodically and then is subsequently remorseful and says:

 

“I will never beat my wife again!”

 

And then proceeds to go back and beat her. This is eloquent but irrelevant! Unless he, General Sisi in Egypt, take the reins and assert themselves against Israel in some fashion, everything he described happening will happen.

 

In other words, he will watch as millions of Arabs are driven out or killed from Gaza and ultimately the West Bank. If nothing is done, then the same thing will eventually happen to Hezbollah unless Iran intervenes to come to its assistance.

 

And you have to know that behind the scenes, the Arabs in Jordan and in Egypt are talking privately with the Turks and saying:

 

“You know, historically we live in your sphere of influence, yet you are all talk and no action. Why do you expect us to impale ourselves on Israel if you are unwilling to do anything?”

 

Remember, Iran is a Shiite power. The Persia, the Persian Iran that we talk about is an outsider in that area. They don’t view the Iranians as natural leaders inside the Islamic world. But the truth is, thus far, it’s the Shiites who’ve been leading and the Sunnis who have done almost nothing. It’s a very strange set of circumstances.

 

Judge Napolitano: Here is President Biden yesterday afternoon. Tell me if you agree with him Colonel.

 

Biden: I’ll say a few words about Iran’s missile attack on Israel today. At my direction, the United States military actively supported the defense of Israel, and we’re still assessing the impact. But based on what we know now, the attack appears to have been defeated and ineffective. And this is testament to Israeli military capability and the US military. It is also a testament to intensive planning between the United States and in Israel to anticipate and defend against the brazen attack we expected.

 

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Judge Napolitano: Defeated and ineffective?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Well, certainly it was not defeated per se, because it was not designed to kill large numbers of people, but at the same time, it turned out to be ineffective. I think that’s arguably true. Strategically, I’m sure the Israelis breathed a huge sigh of relief. You’re talking about the capability to launch 100 missiles an hour for 24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours, 96 hours with deadly accuracy. That hasn’t happened.

 

Judge Napolitano: Is Iran’s capability?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Yes! And that has not happened.

 

And as long as that does not happen, I think the Israelis are going to take advantage of the opportunity. They’d be fools not to. And they’re going to go after Iran with a vengeance.

 

There’s a struggle inside Iran right now between the new regime, which is actually moderate in its outlook, and wants to align itself with what we consider to be normalcy in the world and normalcy in the region. People in Iran who are on the other side of that argument, the so-called hardliners, they’re saying:

 

“You’re fools! You’ve lost your minds!”

 

Judge Napolitano: That would be the Ayatollah and his crew.

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Well, I would think. So but I don’t want to name names that imputes things to people without knowing precisely who they are. But the bottom line is, …

 

Judge Napolitano: Understood. Understood.

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Bottom line is they very definitely are standing around and they’re saying:

 

“What are you crazy? The Israelis and the Americans are coming for you. They are going to destroy you! Why are you holding back?”

 

Judge Napolitano: Why are you holding back? What is President Putin doing while this is happening? Is he talking to the new president of Iran, saying, “be restrained”? Or “how can I help?”.

 

Col Doug Macgregor: There is some evidence that the former chief of defense, Defense Minister, if you will, Shoigu may well be on the ground in Iran, along with the current Russian prime minister and thousands of Russian technicians and military advisors, trying to put together and maintain this elaborate air and missile defense network. Along with probably other weapons systems that have been provided.

 

So I think the Russians are there and they’ve told the Iranians:

 

“We will stand by you.”

 

But at the same time, I think Putin has always been predisposed to advise caution and restraint.

 

Now, that’s actually worked thus far very well, I would argue, in Ukraine. It is Ukraine that is dying! It is Ukraine that has bled to death! It’s the American military establishment and its equipment that has failed miserably to successfully halt any Russian advance.

 

But the situation in the Middle East is quite different. So giving that advice is probably not necessarily the Right advice at this point.

 

At the same time, you have Xi in China. He does not want the Straits of Hormuz to be closed, and he’s worried about the destruction of the oil facilities in Iran and access to those straits. I mean, why would the Israelis allow business as usual through the Persian Gulf and the Straits of Hormuz if they’re at war with Iran? I think it’s pretty clear that they’re not going to hold back.

 

And that’s why I’m saying that that battle in Tehran is being fought out as we speak. And I don’t know what the outcome will be, but I think ultimately the hardliners are going to win!

 

Judge Napolitano: What has Netanyahu, who it is obvious now, never wanted peace, exploited October 7 well beyond its initial meaning as an instrument with which to expand the borders of Israel well beyond, never mind 1967, but where it is today? What has he done to Israel by this belligerence to the country that he leads?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Well, the Israeli economy is in ruins. There’s no question about that. It’ll take a long time to recover from all of this. That’s not terribly important as long as they swim in a sea of American cash.

 

If you look at the credit ratings in Israel, Israel’s credit rating is tied to ours. We essentially underwrite Israeli economic strength, power and stability. We underwrite their currency. We underwrite everything! So as long as this continues, I think the Israeli population is certainly 80 plus percent behind what Mr Netanyahu is doing. I don’t think that is a reflection of whether they like him or not. That’s another matter entirely.

 

But I think what he’s doing is something they strongly support. They want to rid themselves of the quote, unquote “Arab problem”, the Palestinian Arab problem. They want to get rid of it. They want to rid themselves of the quote, unquote “Hezbollah problem”.

 

Now, we could sit here, we can go back into the past, and we can debate how it got this way and how the Israelis shot themselves in the foot several times, cultivated the emergence of their own enemies. It doesn’t make any difference. This is what they want to do.

 

And remember that if you can move into Lebanon, where they’re headed now, you also exert considerable control over the water table and water resources. Water resources in that region of the world are as important as gold, and that would put them in a very strong position. The deeper they go into Lebanon, and ultimately their operations in Syria are the same.

 

Again, this is why ultimately, and I say this, ultimately, when all is said and done, we will watch Turks enter this conflict. The Turks will not sit there and do nothing in perpetuity! And we will see Jordan and Egypt explode! It’s coming, but it’s coming very slowly.

 

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Judge Napolitano: Will the Turks turn off the spigot of oil, much of which goes to Israel, or are they more interested in the commercial desirability of continuing to sell oil, even to a country that’s adverse to theirs?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: The destruction of Lebanon, which is ongoing, is pushing them in the direction of shutting it down, finally. And the pressure inside Turkey on President Erdogan and his regime, which is accused of all sorts of corruption problems right now, is enormous. I think he’s going to be pushed into these actions whether he likes it or not.

 

And again, this is the street, if you will, the popular attitude in the Arab, Turkish, Persian world:

 

“What are we going to do?”

 

I mean, I’m sure you saw President Netanyahu talk about the Israelis liberating Iran from their oppressive government. Yes, of course, that drew a lot of laughter inside Iran, because the Iranians said:

 

“We may not like this government, but if you think we’re going to align ourselves with the jews in Israel against our own government, against our own country, you’ve lost your mind!”

 

Judge Napolitano: One wonders what that comment that he made was aimed at. Maybe it was Iranian expats living in the United States? But let me switch gears before we end.

 

The killing of Nazarallah, a cultural icon, a religious leader, a cult leader, if you will. But is it very significant militarily that he’s now dead?

 

Col Doug Macgregor: I think it’s significant militarily only insofar as it stiffens the resolve and the willingness to fight inside Hezbollah. Remember, his predecessor was also assassinated. The problem with all of these assassinations is that they do not fundamentally change anything! They tend, on the whole, to inspire those who don’t want to negotiate in any case. It tends to discredit anybody who argues for moderation.

 

It makes people in Israel and in the United States feel good because they’ve been able to find someone they don’t like who is opposed to them and kill them.

 

It also opens up another can of worms, which is what could happen to us and what could happen inside Israel. No one is immune to this sort of thing. When you start this assassination program, there’s always a danger that it becomes a tit for tat operation.

 

But it doesn’t change anything strategically, because ultimately all of these people are replaced. I mean, somebody said to me the other day, what happens when you remove the CEO from General Electric or Chrysler or any of the big automobile organizations, Ford or something else? Well, you replace them! Somebody else comes in and takes over. So you don’t fundamentally change anything. But you do anger, and you do inspire people to fight back!

 

Judge Napolitano: And in this case, the replacement might be more strident than the person that was assassinated.

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Well we remember we killed Soleimani, General Soleimani, and we don’t need to go back over that. I thought that was a misguided act at the time and thought it was also, as you would point out, unconstitutional because we don’t assassinate the members of other people’s governments. Well, all of that went by the wayside. Has his force been any less effective? I don’t see much evidence for that. Is Iran or the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps any more willing to do business with us? Of course not! So killing him changed fundamentally nothing!

 

Judge Napolitano: Colonel, thank you very much for your time, my dear friend.

 

Col Doug Macgregor: There’s one last thing I’d like to say that people need to keep in mind. There are many ways to define genius. Both Goethe and Einstein said:

 

“Genius consists of knowing when to stop!”

 

The truth is that the Israelis are on the edge of the abyss, and we are with them, encouraging them to jump off the cliff and into the abyss. However good they may think things look at the moment, whatever advantage they think they’ve achieved is temporary. And over time, the massive enormity of opposition to them in the region is only going to metastasize and grow. So knowing when to stop is genius. I keep looking for it in Washington, in Kiev, and in Jerusalem. I can’t find it.

 

Judge Napolitano: It doesn’t exist. You’re certainly not going to find it in Netanyahu. We know that, Colonel. Thank you. Thanks for your time. This is the largest audience you’ve drawn of the many huge live audiences that you’ve drawn on this platform. I’m deeply grateful. We all are for your time and for your analytical skills. All the best, colonel. I hope we can see you again next week.

 

Col Doug Macgregor: Sure. Thank you, Judge.

 

Judge Napolitano: Of course. A great man and a very, very insightful series of operations about both Ukraine and the Middle East. Coming up at twelve noon today, live from Ukraine, Patrick Lancaster at 1:30, Aaron Mate. At 2:30, Phil Giraldi. Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom.

 

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@rezakarampour6286
8 hours ago
US Needs a declaration of independence from Israel .
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@mrunderhill3970
7 hours ago
Never allow dual citizens in office if we ever have a choice again
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@oliveoil5789
7 hours ago

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@Stonesour1
7 hours ago
Amen
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@lilyBeans-cz4rm
6 hours ago
Canada likewise
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@ji8698
6 hours ago
But no other dual citizen can do what they are doing and get away with it
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@ziegle9876
6 hours ago
Making Garfield President sealed the deal…
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@johnringoo756
6 hours ago
Should be law
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@4570Govt
6 hours ago
We nose who you mean
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@adinahaun6001
6 hours ago
Agreed!
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@mohamedalsalmi6656
5 hours ago
In companies is considered conflict of interest and a person could get fired for it.
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@Hellvine
5 hours ago
As a US Marine and dual citizen of Mexico, I agree.
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@Howardlifts
5 hours ago
Huge issue
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@briandam8126
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@thunderd78
5 hours ago
Never allow “gods chosen” in office.
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@totallynotthefeds
5 hours ago
​ @4570Govt
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@jacobjorgenson9285
5 hours ago
You won’t have a choice
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@georgestavri4474
4 hours ago
@jacobjorgenson9285 Why ?

@lcollins4313
4 hours ago
President’s couldn’t be “ duel citizens. The Constitution said “must be a 2nd generation of two American citizens. Our Founding Fathers Specifically wanted the Republic to be safe from tyranny from all European influences. Loyalty to the New Republic. A Nation represented by the people, for the people . Indecent of outside Oligarchs.
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@censorshipagainstthemiddle6198
4 hours ago
Wjen will yall accept that y’all have no say so in that matter.
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@whitetigress4543
4 hours ago
You need to vote third party because these two are owned by AIPAC
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@ellenrichardson7819
3 hours ago
Dual citizenship never allowed when some became US citizen until Israel & the Lobby.
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@majorintel9623
2 hours ago
No dual citizens in any National Security, legal, or law enforcement role.
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@HeavyMental1000
2 hours ago
I’m actually surprised that we allow this

@icemaxwell2000
2 hours ago
To all mothers in US prepare to give your children away to the new war in the middle east. The never-ending conflict that young American lives that need to be sacrificed for people that live at the other side of the world. Incredible…
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@Davidnumber23
1 hour ago
the most stupid move that everyday people dont even realize its illegal elsewhere lol
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@peppersghosttheater
1 hour ago
There will always be a special rule for Israel regardless of anything they decide in the future
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@brutus4013
1 hour ago
Australia doesn’t allow dual citizens to hold elected offices. Well done my Aussie friends .
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@Queef_latina
1 hour ago
It’s too late. They are everywhere
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@Inafadal
1 hour ago
Do we have America any one who don’t have dual citizenship including Biden who Ireland citizens trump Germany Obama Kenya

@Freedom_Half_Off
57 minutes ago
​ @Inafadal Dual citizen is not just random reference to heritage or ancestry . dual citizens can actually carry the passport of the other nation … It has nothing to do with Grandpa came from country X
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@AlexaTaganrog
6 hours ago
Free USA from Israel!
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@flesz_
7 hours ago
Free USA from AIPAC
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@JeeeeeZ289
3 hours ago
And the owners of the federal reserve
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@melaniestafford182
2 hours ago
Free the world from AIPAC
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@gene8675
2 hours ago
Yes, & don’t sleep on cair the Arab version
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@selma5885
7 hours ago
As an American, a tax payer, and a grandmother, I am deeply depressed and discouraged the direction our country has taken. Backing a campaign of extermination by Israel. God help us.
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@KizzieWiz
5 hours ago
I truly wish Doug Macgregor was standing for President of America!
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@johnsammers
7 hours ago
Does anyone else think that Iran was demonstrating they could have flattened Tel Aviv if they wanted to?
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@michaelidarecis
7 hours ago
Iran, Lebanon and Palestine has the right to defend themselves
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@63saruman
7 hours ago
Isn’t it time for all the members of Congress who stood up to clap to Netanyahu to go to the frontline?
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@mohammaddoofesh4963
6 hours ago
The US and Israel are solid partners, and should be held accountable jointly.
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@Kidbako1
6 hours ago
Not voting for anyone who looks favorable on Israel.
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@jaysteven8135
7 hours ago
Free America from Israel
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@polybius666
7 hours ago
Free America and Palestine (From israel)
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@thaile100
7 hours ago
The Noble Persians, they’ve got Class! They don’t hit recklessly at civilians and civilian property. Unlike the coward Natenyahu!
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@EduardoArtistaDelavega
4 hours ago
Instead of arming Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan; US tax payer money should be spent on infrastructure, healthcare, education, homelessness etc.
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@kirikoo9981
7 hours ago
How a Jordanian speaks such perfect English. This guy is an American planted there by the British and the Americans to defend Israel.
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@deansawich6250
7 hours ago
Thanks. Biden has to read a script, what a joke.
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@Faiez-rh1gm
7 hours ago
I can’t stomach that traitor King Hussein
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@nomayor1
4 hours ago
140,000 people across the globe turned to you within just four hours to get a picture of what is happening. Thank you Judge and thank you Col. MacGregor l.
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@nejlababali7901
5 hours ago
Israel is also occupying America
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@gabrielkourieh5920
8 hours ago
The Israelis better not retaliate against Iran because they will regret it very badly,it looks like iran ran out of patience and it is ready to go all the way.that is bad news for Israel.
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@mdob5724
7 hours ago
If we had 100 million American voters watching and liking this channel would I have any hope for our future.
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@gethappycyclingcampingoutdoors
5 hours ago
Iran, Lebanon, Palestine have the absolute right to defend itself!
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@Mary-f1k8t
7 hours ago (edited)
The Colonel deserves a full hour on your show, Judge.. if he could spare the time.
But.. every minute that he shares his wisdom with us is worth its weight in gold.
Thank you and God bless you, Colonel.
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@roshanmashoor766
7 hours ago
Respect to the judge and the colonel
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@jacktheanswer172
8 hours ago
We have to protect this channel and at all costs
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@All_Lives_Matters
7 hours ago
Is Israel the first country that wouldn’t celebrate it’s 100 year anniversary because they caused their own destruction?
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@sabirficic3537
6 hours ago
Our country has become the laughing stock of the world with our leaders
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@stavrosaristidou5779
8 hours ago
Colonel is spot on with all the predictions he has made so far.He is a brain indeed as the judge said.
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@elizabethholloway6945
7 hours ago
He’s brilliant. Always clear and balanced.
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@LindaMcPheeters
7 hours ago
Of course this interview has drawn the largest audience of all the Colonel’s interviews on this platform to date. People are discovering that that Col. Macgregor always delivers a balanced, insightful, well-informed understanding our current geopolitical reality, and does it with a rare level of eloquence and style. Thank you both, Judge and Colonel, for a weekly, much needed dose of truth!
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@hbela1000
6 hours ago
Huge respect for Col. Macgregor,thanks.
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@zekyday8064
8 hours ago
Thanks for the opportunity to hear the Colonel.
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@tatagata6268
8 hours ago
May this video be spread widely
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@gerry4281
7 hours ago
Brilliant man. He should be president.
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@skibidi.G
7 hours ago
Thank you Judge and Col. McGregor.
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@malcolmt7883
8 hours ago
These people have been kicked out of their host countries over a hundred times, (through no fault of their own, of course)
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@riaadhoosain
8 hours ago
Always a pleasure listening to you Colonel – a voice of reason and a reality check vs the bias of western media.
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@ddevilisinthedetails
7 hours ago
we need Col’s report MONDAYS & FRIDAYS
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@koko2bware
6 hours ago
Col. Douglas MacGregor’s analysis is brilliant as usual!!
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@ismaelamaro7728
7 hours ago
Iran is a peace-loving nation.
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@kpoonwah
7 hours ago
Times of India reported that IDF admitted several air bases were hit, including aircrafts
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@almercy
6 hours ago
Col. Douglas MacGregor is a national gem!! Keep speaking the truth!!
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@martinmcconville8401
7 hours ago
An exceptionally sobering conclusion by the Colonel. Another great interview by Judge Napolitano.
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@nmkzf
7 hours ago
One basic problem is the establishment of the “Israel” project. the project and its owners are going down with it.
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@jimmycricket7385
7 hours ago
Especially during an election season in America, I keep seeing presidential candidates grovelling to Israel in order to secure big donations from rich jewish oligarchs.
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@josephszot5545
6 hours ago
Colonel, If Trump gets in he won’t send billions to Ukraine, he’ll ship it to Israel, So what’s the Dif? Taxpayer screwed either way!
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@eileenjames9929
7 hours ago
great men of America these two. love their discussion the col such knowledge and integrity
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@Mxr282
8 hours ago
Brilliant man,Col
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@katalinhorvath8139
7 hours ago
Thank you so much to both of you, regards from the UK.
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@polromulo2475
7 hours ago
Always very interesting to listen to Col. Macgregor!
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@keithfazio6519
7 hours ago
So distressing. Thanks for bringing the real reporting, as opposed to the propaganda seen elsewhere.
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@javaidakhterkhan
7 hours ago
Excellent analysis let Americans listen to this and save themselves and the World.
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@tommyNix4098
7 hours ago
Brilliant analysis from two of the greatest minds in America. Thank you for bringing some sanity into a world of madness.
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@vincenthickey9760
4 hours ago
Watching from Ireland these are 2 incredible intelligent human beings and a long with scot Ritter and George Galloway are the only people i choose to hear a balanced truthful dialogue unlike the bought mainstream media lies
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@bobbybieln853
3 hours ago
Colonel is spot on! Only a matter of time before things go south for the IDF and Bibi yahoo
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@MeLodiCarAma
8 hours ago
Guess what…the Saudis and the rest of the gulf now have a better picture of what the Russians and the Chinese can do after this recent demonstration by Iran. Ooops, I forgotten….the North Korean and Pakistan too.
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@hanzkoenig
5 hours ago
Thank you both from Grim Britain.
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@Maryellen514
1 hour ago
God bless you Col. Douglas Macgregor and Judge Napolitano
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@richarderwin2369
7 hours ago
As always, Truth! Thank You.
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@eddie-o5u
8 hours ago
Thank you so much for your brilliant show and incredible guests. Must watch programing! Best show on YouTube.
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@cemalparla4911
8 hours ago
Colonel rocks
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@kevga2758
4 hours ago
Thank you both, great to see , so many folk watching
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@2581nbl
3 hours ago
The Judge and Col McGregor deserve a lot of credit for doing their best to keep us informed. Im glad this channel continues to grow. People are sick of mainstream media
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@minn.1
7 hours ago
What kind of democracy is it when people or voters have no say about their government’s full support of a terrorist country in these crimes against humanity?
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@rashlatif9478
7 hours ago
Absolutely well said by Col. Douglas
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@katedocherty264
7 hours ago
Thank you Judge for this lively and honest discussion with Col. MacGregor.
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@Vegandi_Z
8 hours ago
Judge, I love you, but you gotta stop asking endless questions, when the Colonel already got it and tries to answer…
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@Sw-nv4hw
8 hours ago (edited)
Thank you 2 and my dadda designed missles too. Yet im a disabled aussie seaman. Loved and not! 2 The world needs more men like you judge and the good col. Period!
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@simonemindfulness1057
3 hours ago
Much love to all Palestinians and Lebaneses from Brazil
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@928pcar
7 hours ago
The Iron Dome turned into the IRAN DOME last night LOL
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@G.oogleIsCensorship
7 hours ago
THE KING OF JORDAN MAKES ME SICK. CESSCH OUT
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@sws-vlogs
8 hours ago
Idf Juz expect us to believe they had no prior knowledge of 10/07
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@rac1030
7 hours ago
You’re both great men. God bless you all.
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@plank8241
5 hours ago
So great to have COL. MacGregor on your channel! Love the man’s honesty and straightforwardness, it takes a hell lot of courage to articulate the issues that he does considering today’s situation with the freedom of speech and mass media being rather tools of repression than information sources
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@20luzer52
6 hours ago
The problem with Judge Napolitano and Douglas Macgregor is that they have a sense of morals and principles
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@99PUTNAM
7 hours ago
Thank you for Macgregor… brilliant and commitment to reality in opposition to the ZIONIST crazies
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@sankheroshamoun7624
6 hours ago
Thank you Judge you get the wisest gests on your show.
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@MarcWiedmann
4 hours ago
German here – staying up to date on information on Ukraine and the Middle East on a weekly basis due to this channel. Thanks Judge Nap, thanks Col. Macgregor. We need competent, analytical and intelligent people. I hope you are a lightpost for a lot of people. “The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart — and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained”
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@MikeMelia51
5 hours ago
Thanks Colonel
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@jimtaleb4364
7 hours ago
$5.00
Thanks!
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@mindbliss7764
4 hours ago
I have so much respect for Col Douglas. Such a great thinker
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@Frankchiew59
7 hours ago
King Abdullah will be deposed very soon.
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@Smiff1066
7 hours ago
Meanwhile 10,s of thousands Americans are suffering in the South East, maybe up to a thousand have died, wheres their help?
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@ceaget7252
7 hours ago
Colonel Macgregor has superb knowledge, analytical skills and wisdom. A rare individual indeed.
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@BerndSchmitt-Martinique
5 hours ago
Aristotle: ‘Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.’
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@Mary-f1k8t
7 hours ago
The We Love Africa channel is very good about posting UN speeches.
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@WORKOUTSOLUTIONS
8 hours ago
ХРИСТОС ВОСКРЕСЕ
БОГ С НАМИ ПРОТИВ ЗЛА И ИСКУШЕНИЙ
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@JacquelineAgnesGilfillan
5 hours ago
Thanks for all this clarity, Judge and Colonel
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@jonnyboy8781
6 hours ago
Judge, your show last eve with Scott was epic. History being made in real-time. Love the show, all your eminent guests & your great presenter skills. Fantastic.
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@richardpquette6992
6 hours ago
Complete BS: we (USA) are Ordering it, We are Arming it, We are Loading it, we are Surveilling it, we are funding it, we are deciding it, we are loading the strike data….
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@mickgallagher6717
6 hours ago
Thank God for this highly astute, logical, sane Spiritual beings, truthtellers, Peacemakers!
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@AngelaOMeara-th1en
2 hours ago
thanks Colonel, your voice is needed Louder and Louder.
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@thomashand1316
6 hours ago
How many military men quote Goethe and Einstein ? Colonel McGregor is one of a kind.
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@williamgianopulos636
8 hours ago (edited)
It’s not an Israeli-only scenario, as our guest points out. Of course not. Israel didn’t produce the 60-80 bombs that flattened the apartment complex in Beirut. We are the only game in town, so let’s start considering other options, like talking to one another again. As Churchill said, Meeting Jaw to Jaw is better than war.
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@lucienleech-larkin7544
8 hours ago
Colonel, How Do You “Debate” A Mendacious Pseudology?!! There’s No Point At All In Arguing Against A Narrative Which Has No Relationship To The Actual Facts!! All You Can Do, Is Get Rid Of The Bastards Who Are Lying To You; Anything Else Is Just Irrelevant!!
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@bittertruth3295
6 hours ago
Great man col McGregor, always on point. Thank you Judge for inviting him.
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@williammichael2156
6 hours ago
Thanks gents,blessings from Glasgow
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@bravestone8933
8 hours ago (edited)
King of Jordan is like the former president Ashraf Ghani of Afghanistan.
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@vancouver_dad5195
7 hours ago
Love from the Philippines
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@a.j.rainey3024
7 hours ago
After last April’s missile exchange, Russia supplied Iran with S400/500 air defense systems along with most advanced “radar jamming” systems. If US/Israel attacks Iran many fighter/bomber jets will be downed. Manned jet fighters are rapidly becoming obsolete in todays war theater.
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@MochoCoLaTo911
5 hours ago
From Canada, I seriously think that if we put the people we use to see in Judge Napolitano Chanel in charge of the Gov. they will make USA great again and for a long long time !
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@johnoneill192
7 hours ago
It’s quite obvious that the leaders of Egypt and Jordan still have PTSD from 1967 particularly and also 1973 and are frozen with fear of a repeat of those wars against Israel ( and of course America as they could destroy Israel if they combined forces if America wasn’t backing Israel unconditionally ) but I think the ordinary people of all the Muslim nations have really had enough of Israel’s atrocities against fellow Arabs. This Netenyahu maniac wants war with all his neighbours and is only in a position to prosecute these wars on multiple fronts because of American backing
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@Harvey-Sp
8 hours ago
Judge, You among the wise men in our country. The UAP threat is real. What’s going on in the Middle East is nothing comparable to the UAP threat.
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@feryag
7 hours ago
From a very insightful man “genius consistent of knowing when to stop.” Thank you, Col. Macgregor.
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@bulentunal3832
7 hours ago
you are right judge. he is a waste, King Abdullah
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@ShortbusMooner
7 hours ago
Thank you so much, gentlemen!
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@louisepelte2942
7 hours ago
Very depressing as usual.
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@NoorFalastin110
6 hours ago
Thank you for all you do gentlemen. Thank you for choosing humanity
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@juanluistostadocanales3955
7 hours ago
That is right Colonel
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@SADIKDIN
6 hours ago
A little 3 yr old girl being stucked under a rubble with 1 arm decacipitated crying and pleaded, ‘Mummy I want to go home,…I want to go home’. But her parents already died under the rubble and no way to rescue the little girl. The nexf day the little girl died of agony being pinned under the rubble. Can we sleep at night knowing all these horrifying events are happening to thousands of little children?
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@chrisnicolis1304
2 hours ago
The judge has compiled an impressive list of guests over the last couple of years. I never fail to be impressed by the knowledge and wisdom of Colonel Macgregor
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@davidlaw1690
4 hours ago
America is Israel’s little nodding duck
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@christiancommunistpartyoft8691
5 hours ago
Israel is doomed
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@Linus-k6c
6 hours ago
It’s always a big joy to listen to you and to Macgregor. The final statement is brilliant. The final statement will remain in history. The final statement is truly inspiring. Hope to see you soon. Thank you very much.
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@lindachan5610
17 minutes ago
Good final reflection from Colonel Macgregor. Stopping in time is better than losing everything.
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@nazhamerabi4395
7 hours ago
The Iranians need to listen to Col. Macgregor. Why are they holding back? That was Hassan Nasrallah’s mistake listening to them. It’s now or never!!!
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@chrisgreene2623
7 hours ago
The Colonel is in the house!
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@craigaxle1096
6 hours ago
Praying for peace, healing & reconciliation in the middle east, Ukraine-Russia, Sudan , China, …
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@sinaisapour7584
3 hours ago
Long live Iran and the resistance
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@elwoodguy7955
8 hours ago
Wonder how Bibi reflects on his speech at the UN LAST week? Given how Iran responded to it l believe he thinks it may of been an error. Whilst the UN has been giving speech after speech -deploring Bibi -iran steps up well done Iran
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@arifurrahman2891
7 hours ago
Colonel’s last words are highly terrifying. Something extremely devastating is going to visit the entire ME region in the months and years ahead. Current standing of things will only keep deteriorating from this moment onward.
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@paullilliott7565
6 hours ago
‘Safe and effective’……
‘Defeated and ineffective’
same script writer?
Very valuable last words, Colonel. Thank you both for keeping us informed.
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@mariojcollado1384
1 hour ago
Col. MacGregor is a valuable asset as we pursue clarity and potential resolutions for conflicts home and abroad
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@fordshaw5833
4 hours ago
Colonel Macgregor’s mention of Israel’s habit of heavy handed use of lethal force
reminds me of the Confucian maxim, “Never use cannon to kill mosquito”. So far Israel has shown little economy of effort in their combat operations which says something about whose picking up the tab for their war which would have otherwise bankrupted the Israeli tax base.
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@MrCarhoo
7 hours ago
Thanks doug
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@RobinaOmar-o3e
7 hours ago
Absolutely fantastic, madness he has said is repeating an exercise and expecting a different result. Israelis have been doing this for decades and hoping for a different result.
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@kilok9599
7 hours ago
Brilliant analysis as always. Luv the Col!
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@RNX09
6 hours ago
Thanks Judge for persisting with these videos with your informative guests. All of them are great.
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@mariadasilva3444
5 hours ago
Thanks Judge and Col. MacGregor. Good to know unbiased truth.

@HoldTheBacon
1 hour ago
I don’t understand how we can pass bills in congress in a matter of seconds when it comes to giving Israel billions yet we can’t fix healthcare or our infrastructure at minimum.
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@peaceb4
3 hours ago
I’m almost certain that America’s own law would forbid the sale or supply of weapons to any country that has Nuclear Weapons while not being a signatory to the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty!
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@nicholasmartiau1728
6 hours ago
Col. Ma Gregor is 2nd to none with his unique inside insight gained from decades of commanding soldiers and armies who executed some of histories most daring and consequential actions. Thanks Judge for having Colonel MacG on you show! We really appreciate it.
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@EduardoArtistaDelavega
4 hours ago
Iran is not our enemy.
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@wanderingquestions7501
5 hours ago
I would like to see episodes in which guests are able to identify for us voters which of our politicians are strongly owned by AIPAC. This would be helpful for identifying who one may wish, or not wish to vote for.
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@avinadehnad1058
7 hours ago (edited)
Colonel Macgregor, thank you for your thoughtful insight. The only thing that was not accurate was that:
Iranians would never align themselves with the Israeli government because they are morally against the Israeli governments Genocide and Indiscriminate killings, and because of over 40 years of illegal sanctions, assassinations, and malignment of Iran, just because they criticize Apartheid in Israel. It has nothing to do with the ‘not aligning with Jews’* as you mentioned, although I understand the spirit of what you said. If Iranians have any problems with their government, Iranians are very capable of dealing with it together, and don’t need Netanyahu stick his murderous axe in.
*Iran has one of the largest and oldest Jewish populations in the middle east. They have lived in harmony with other religions in Iran for thousands of years. Iran being against Jews is part of the Pompeo warmongering narrative that has been debunked by historians and Iranian Jews continuously through intelligent media.
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@jkb728
3 hours ago
Judge and colonel mcgregor absolute wisdom
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@RuaidhriOSioradain
3 hours ago
Thanks Judge excellent as per usual, Col, I salute you, wonderful analyst
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@volkiruski1221
7 hours ago
That Jordan Puppet King is also and only Bla bla, real arabs, lots of talking, like always!! Time for change to another king. I tought his wife has more guts?
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@gustav4539
6 hours ago
I know I’m being “directed” by a YT algorithm because I watched a few videos featuring John Mersheimer and Jeffrey Sachs, but it seems like American critics of the actions of Israel are getting more numerous. When I started understanding this situation 25 years ago it was mainly lefties like Chomsky and Finkelstein who were criticizing Israel. This is a good development, even if right-wingers came to this through America First.
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@AshrafAnwar-e7s
3 hours ago
Brilliant as usual. Thank you both.
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@jackypackham7666
6 hours ago
I’d vote for him, shame he isn’t standing in the UK.
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@nm1978
7 hours ago
man speaking logic
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@farishtajebran7317
8 hours ago
We salute IranWe support IranWe stand with IranWe pray for Iran,s victory Thank you Iran
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@MohamedAhmed-sc3yq
7 hours ago
Well said.
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@nosceteipsum997
3 hours ago
Extremely wise words, colonel! Thumbs up from the UK!!

@mattyarrow4406
2 hours ago
Thanks to the both of you for a great interview.
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@ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow
8 hours ago
Say hello to our heretic October surprise…… Pope Clement 14th birthday is October 31st and we are going to honor his Devotion to expelling Jesuit order from all the de facto Roman cartel Nations
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@miss_rini
6 hours ago
Something about McGregor’s energy, it makes me feel just a little safer. Like it might feel if the US did have leaders who could convey strength and power with the people; as opposed to power over people.
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@byronhay1648
2 hours ago
Colonel Douglas Macgregor’s Analysis is right on.

@danielperez-sz2ii
35 minutes ago
Great analysis by two real Patriots! Thank you gentlemen.

@RUcookoo
3 hours ago
Is America still paying Egypt and Israel millions a year not to fight each other ?
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@musajallow5710
7 hours ago
great colonel indeed
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@AntonioJose-fy3zh
1 hour ago
Thanks Coronel Douglas Macgregor…for exposing the world of reality

@hussmortada
5 hours ago
The most revealing and honest interview I have seen since the start of the conflict. Very interesting indeed, calling a spade a spade. Hat off to you both.
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@MA-sk4fg
7 hours ago
The sad thing about these futile wars is that lots of people got killed for absolutely nothing!!! What a waste of souls.
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@Puzian
7 hours ago
The Colonel isn’t correct about Türkiye. So far, all the Turks have done is talk. They will not fight. They will not stop the oil.
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@betweendrinks8885
4 hours ago
One day you’ll wake to NO judge and Doug – no internet – no TV broadcast – no power – skies blazing from afar and darkening – sirens in distance – heat unbearable- and no going back to what we once had
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@maxmurphy7306
3 hours ago
Great full cycle analysis guys.
Thank you judge Napolitano and colonel macgregor.
TRUE AMERICAN GRIT.

@Al7amed
8 hours ago
Iran didn’t signal anyone this time ! That was the last time, not this time.
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@neviocapodagli4742
7 hours ago
Amazing
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@dbassman27
5 hours ago
I value Col. Macgregor’s comments. Voice of sanity and reason in a maelstrom of hate and insanity.

@POLISHAMERICANLEGIONS
1 hour ago
Thank you very much for the great analysis great us Patriot colonel graduate of two military institutes and also to the Justice Napolitano for your great analysis every day and I am Polish American from McLean Virginia
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@MultiPrairiedog
6 hours ago
A vote for Trump or Harris is a vote for israel.
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@TheVigilantEye77
8 hours ago
The Constitution? What is that ?
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@INNIMA
1 hour ago
Im sick and tired of the iranian restraint
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@davetrump1584
8 hours ago
Hypersonic weapons, like ballistic missiles, fly at speeds of at least Mach 5, or roughly 1 mile per second. Unlike ballistic missiles, hypersonic weapons do not follow a ballistic trajectory and can maneuver en route to their target.
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@carlosorff
6 hours ago (edited)
Iran must not fall, as it is the gate to Russia from the south. So be prepared for Russia and China to protect its interest.Also the Turks. 31:37 I really do admire the wisdom of Mr. MacGregor and I agree fully with his last thought.
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@RiyadHaybe
3 hours ago
I agree with last Statement that the Colonel made. Very Dangerous!
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@McKav
9 minutes ago
Col. Macgregor (ret.) is brilliant. His analysis is crucial to understanding the true facts

@xp3703
7 hours ago
King of Jordan: “Elocuent but irrelevant” Precisely. So well said
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@L16s13O-
7 hours ago
Future VP Vance? How presumptuous of you. I’m not for neither one of them but Trump is no better.
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@litttoe
3 hours ago
It’s unbelievable that we are at this point in reality.
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@peaceb4
3 hours ago
A fair and just UN would send UN Peacekeepers to Gaza and UN Weapons Inspectors to Israel
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@gnosticbrian3980
7 hours ago
Read the Brookings Institute strategy document titled: “Which path to Persia?: options for a new American strategy toward Iran”. Written in 2009, it sets out how America could use Israel as a proxy to sow discord and war throughout the Middle East. And that template appears to have been followed.
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@letterpress01
7 hours ago
Other podcasts have reported that the Israelis were taken by surprise and there was a great deal of damage done. Some of the videos show dozens of ballistic missiles hitting the airbase. The opposite of what you are describing though I am a fan Colonel.
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@DarrenSmith-tq2xz
1 hour ago
Thanks for the great content once again God bless you col Douglas magregor and judge napalotano stay safe and well both of you

@bullasbullas
3 hours ago
Another great show Judge. Keep it coming.

@mariadasilva3444
5 hours ago
The King of Jordan speech is convincing! However, it’s just “empty” words! Don’t trust him at all!
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Monika Schaefer: Greetings. Good day. Good afternoon. Hello, wherever you are. Today’s date is August, 24, 2024. This is episode nine of The Flip Side with Monika. And I am your host, Monika Schaefer. Before I introduce today’s guest, I’ll give you the phone numbers to call after the bottom of the hour. We like to invite guests or callers to call in. And those numbers are 512-248-8252 or 1800 313 9443.

 

Okay, today’s guest is Grace Eki Oyama. And I’ll just give you a brief, a story of how I met Grace Eki. And this was back in 2015. So nine years ago almost. I attended the trial, the speech crime trial of Arthur Topham in Quesnel, British Columbia, Canada. And there I met some very interesting people.

 

And one of the people I met was Grace Eki Oyama. And it turns out she had attended other such trials and was very, very knowledgeable in many things.

 

And at that time we were talking about World War Two history, those kinds of things. The kind, the very subject that I got into some trouble with the powers that should not be, the Holocaust subject and all those things. So Grace Eki Oyama has been in this for a long time.

 

And today we’re going to talk about some other subjects a little bit different from that. But I’ll just, before I bring her on, I will just say that in my Chatango site, this is the chat room. And how you can find that chat room, it’s all spelled out The Flipside W Monika. So instead of with. It’s just a W.

 

So the Flipside W Monika Chatango. That’s Chatango. Chatango. Chatango.com. And I posted a video. It’s a five minute short video. It’s called The World Owes Germany an Apology for World War Two. And that’s a video of Grace Eki, who made this very brilliant and succinct little five minute talk, which was this apology.

 

And so I’ll let her talk a little bit about that too, because we were just revisiting that a few minutes ago. But the subject we’re going to talk about today are about musical frequency. And people have probably heard about 440 being the standard tuning for A and many people these days are aware that perhaps 432 might be a better frequency. So that’s one of our subjects.

 

And the other subject, and I had put this into the show notes, if you’re going to find this in the archives, is on the three stages. This is a Japanese philosophy about the three stages of development, childhood development. And I will let her just discuss that at length. So, Grace Eki, are you there?

 

Grace: Yes. Hello, Monika.

 

Monika Schaefer: Welcome.

 

Grace: Thank you.

 

Monika Schaefer: Would you like to start about this, the title of that video? Because we just talked about that a few minutes ago.

 

Grace: Yes. Because often it’s not me who put the title, but what I wanted to say. And if you. The idea was war is war. And then I feel that the world does owe an apology for what happened to the Germans, actually, after the war, how they were treated, and also the fact that there is no real official peace treaty, and the expellees, et cetera, et cetera. I think that’s very important for people to know and understand, because it leads away for the problem in what’s happening now in Palestine. There is a similarity, but the fact that it is not known at all, it’s a shame, because it’s things that, oh, including the Nuremberg, which was not a real trial, nor was it very fair.

 

And so that was the part that I wanted people to be at least conscious of.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes, thank you for that. Just clarifying that that wasn’t, you know, our main subject today. But it does give the audience, the listener, a little bit of background about first of all, I explained how I met you was at this speech crime trial. And why don’t you give a little bit of a snapshot about background of yourself? I know you’ve done many things. You’ve lived in many places. You’ve been a writer, you’ve been a translator.

 

Can you just give maybe a couple of minutes, a bit of background of yourself?

 

Grace: Well, a couple of minutes.

 

Monika Schaefer: Maybe that’s not possible! [chuckling]

 

Grace: Once we get into the detail, we can go all over. But maybe, just as an honor to my father, I just want to add the fact that my father participated in World War Two. And the fact that he is a martial artist of karate.

 

So I wanted to say that you are brought up in a different environment than if my father was a banker, or a businessman, or a Professor, let’s say. And that was one thing.

 

And then later on, I worked with this researcher, a Japanese researcher who would also make history on his own. But his name is Ryu Ota. And Ota is the one who got me very much interested in, … Well, what really happened was when Eustace Mullins came to Japan, there was a presentation with a professional translator. And the translator, I realized, wasn’t really translating, not accurately. And it was about 9/11. And whatever Mr Mullins was saying, basically, she was translating it the opposite. I almost thought she could be a saboteur. But later on, I understood this, that we, first of all, in Italian they say, “translator traitors”. “Traditore, traditore”. Because it can’t be helped because you can only translate something that you understand. So she wasn’t, I feel, purposely doing that. But from her standard of knowledge and common sense, the alternative so-called conspiratorial theory sounded so absurd, I think she just couldn’t digest it and kind of purified the translation.

 

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Monika Schaefer: Wow! And when you say 9/11, you’re talking about 9/11, the events of September 11, 2001, right?

 

Grace: Correct?

 

Monika Schaefer: To clarify, yes. Oh, that’s very interesting.

 

Grace: Well, he said a lot of interesting things, but she was diluting it down.

 

But anyway, so what I did was I wrote out what Mr Mullins said and what the translator said, and how I would have translated what I feel he really said. And I showed it to Ota. And ever since then, he’s asked me to basically become his translator. And through him, I met really not just Eustace Mullins, but he had more than 13 books by John Coleman translated into Japanese. Now he’s famous for the Committee of Three Hundred. He also, I think, was the first to talk about Bohemian Club and Bilderberg. I was also his translator when David Icke came two times when Ota called David Ike to Japan, for example. And he would have called Webster Tarpley. But unfortunately, he became ill and died. And that was about 2009 anyway.

 

So that taught me very much. That’s how I found out a lot about true history in the West. Yeah, true history in the West.

 

Despite this slogan of “democracy and freedom”, there really wasn’t., … You know, one of the reason about Arthur Topham’s trial is like, do we really have free speech? And ever since I found out about Zundel.

 

Monika Schaefer: Ernst Zundel.

 

Grace: Yes. And when the court in Canada, when the court judged that “truth is no defense”, I was so shocked! Because, well, how else are you expected to defend yourself? Yes, I just found it so absurd!

 

And I think that is, at least in, as far as Canada is concerned, that was when things started to crack. That was like the beginning of the cracking of the justice system.

 

And the other thing is that I really, honestly believe in freedom of speech. Even for your enemies, even for things that you don’t like. Because that’s the only way. I don’t want to sound like cliche, but the only way to peace is through negotiation and through diplomacy and so forth. And it saddens me also to see what is happening with Ukraine and Russia, too.

 

But instead of diplomacy or negotiation, basically a dialogue, it seems that the world has gone mad, and it’s like more money, more arms, more of the things that’s, more sanctions more of the things that’s really not a solution or working!

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. And I would say the really important element is deception. Right? In all these things that are happening.

 

Grace: Well, like, I think we would all agree that without deception, war is not possible, that war is propaganda!

 

Monika Schaefer: I’ve never heard anybody say it that way. That’s really, really good! That’s profound. I would say. [chuckling]

 

Grace: Thank you.

 

But I also think you have to demonize the enemy, because if you had one drop of sympathy, imagination, or compassion, you really could not have war.

 

So you have to demonize or as an “alien”, I say alien in quotation Mark because it can mean many things, but something so foreign and different and something to be demonized! And I’m sure you would understand.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

And, I mean, otherwise you wouldn’t have all these soldiers going and killing people who look like them, especially all these brother wars. Cousin wars.

 

Grace: Yeah.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. For sure. So, Grac Eki, that’s really very, very good! Thank you. I didn’t know how your beginnings were in translation, but that’s how you met all these people and then learned a lot about true history. And then I know that you were a writer for a while, I think, at the American Free Press.

 

Grace: No. Well, I had a job with them at the Barnes Review for a while, but it was very short. It was work, but that’s how I managed to go to Palestine in Israel.

 

So I am very appreciative of their help at that time.

 

Monika Schaefer: Right, right. Okay. Well, would you, do you feel ready to jump into the first of our subjects that we., … And the reason we’re going to talk about this, people might say:

 

“Well, why? This is kind of unrelated to anything else.”

 

But Gracie spent a few weeks with me a month or so ago, and we, of course, had time to talk about lots of things.

 

And I like to play music, and we talked about these frequencies. And generally, people, the standard tuning is for A is 440.

 

Now, anybody who plays and tunes up their instrument, they’ll know that.

 

Now, we talked about this other frequency, A 432. And I was just delighted and surprised to hear Grace Eki talk about this because you revealed to me that a lot about this.

 

And so I thought:

 

“Oh, well, we have to talk about this on the show.”

 

[chuckling] So tell us a little bit about how did that come to be that this frequency of 440 was pushed upon us. I think that’s what we had talked about when you were here.

 

Grace: But Monika, it’s not always 440. It can be 442. And I have heard of 446, so it isn’t always 440 either. It can even be higher.

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, I’ve heard that there are some orchestras that in Europe, for example, who are pushing to have the 442 tuning, and it’s just kind of tightening things up.

 

I feel like it’s tightening up a tight wire and to the bursting point or something. So go ahead and talk about the history, perhaps.

 

Grace: I would also say from 1980 to 85, I was in Italy actually studying music, you see, and around that time, there was also this revival of Baroque music and original instruments.

 

So I was always interested in this. But in order to save time, I will be a little bit practical.

 

I happen to be very, very fond of the Italian composer Verdi. This is also called La Verdiana, meaning Verdi’s A, meaning. He thought this was the best that it should be. This was the best pitch. So I assume that was the pitch he was writing in.

 

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Monika Schaefer: Sorry, which was the best pitch?

 

Grace: Well, it depends how you count it. But basically 432.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Grace: If you want to really get into the science and all this is actually supposed to be like 430.8 or something, but because it depends how you count it from, the, C equals 256.

 

But in order to simplify, I also, later on, I knew, have you ever heard of Schiller Institute in Washington, DC?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Grace: But anyway, there was a politician called Lyndon Larouche and his wife Helga, who is German. She heads the Schiller Institute. They only doer. Music and performances in a A equals 430 or 432. And from their Institute, if you Google, you can see musicians actually performing for you in two different pitch. I was lucky. I tried to look for some of the things that I managed to experience a long time ago, but not everything is on the Internet still, and I couldn’t find it.

 

So I’ll tell you one radio program with Carlo Bergonzi, but he was like the Italian star tenor. And in that radio program, he actually has three, like, graduate students in music singing opera arias in both pitches.

 

And all of them said that it feels so much natural to sing in 432 as opposed to 440. And Bergonzi would explain why he feels that is. I also, …

 

Monika Schaefer: Can you tell us a little bit about that? Why that is? Why does it feel better?

 

Grace: Well, first of all, I think you are getting, apparently the standard for classical music was about 430, 32, definitely until the fifties with Fruk Wengler [sp].

 

Now, you know, there are many people who like retro recordings. Could there be a possibility that the pitch does also influence? Is one.

 

And the other thing is that let’s try to get nearer to the composer’s original intent.

 

And the other thing is that without going into too much detail, we have chest and middle voice and high voice.

 

Now, if you, if the tuning is too high, your voice register changes at the wrong place, and that may not reflect correctly with the words that’s meant to be colored. Before you go and ask me, let me just add, I was also fortunate enough, … So there was a time when these musicians were actually doing presentation, like Norbert Brining. He was like the head of the Amadeus Quartet, and he actually played Bach Partita in two tones right in front of you, and you can feel the difference.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

 

Grace: Now, at the same time, I also want to tell you that there are people who like brilliant, who don’t like, who prefer the more brilliant tilling sounds.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Grace: And, but anyway, Verdi lost. Why? Apparently the Russian military equipments were already tuned higher and it, they can be more penetrating and they can be heard much better at distance. So for like, military bands in the 1800s.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Grace: That was their preferred pitch.

 

Monika Schaefer: I just want to, if I may jump in, for people who have not heard about this and they might think, well, why don’t you just play in a different key? That’s not actually what happens with this different tuning. It’s not just simply playing in a lower key. Like instead of C being C, go to B flat or something. That’s not what’s happening. This frequency is, I would say it’s less than a quarter tone or something. It’s really just a change in frequency. And it literally just is., … It’s something that we, … We all have a vibration. We all have a frequency. Everything around us is vibrating at a frequency. And the 432 frequency for the A is, to my knowledge, a more natural frequency that we simply, our bodies will vibrate more naturally to that.

 

So that’s the important point to make here. Otherwise people will say:

 

“Well, why don’t you just play lower, play in a lower key?”

 

[chuckling]

 

Grace: Just like when you change the tonality, the coloring of the piece changes. It’s a very subtle difference. But I would just say that for people interested, try looking for this kind of experiment that was done where they would switch the pitch, and you can also see what you, how you feel.

 

And as a last comment on this, I want to add that when I changed my piano tuning to 432, my daughter, who was in kindergarten, said:

 

“Much more relaxing!”

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Grace: That was the key for me.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes. So I did that once, Gracie Aki. I paid the piano tuner extra because it took longer, and I got him to tune my piano down to 432.

 

But then my next music jam, when I was asking all the musicians to tune their instruments down the guy with the twelve string guitar, [chuckling] and they didn’t appreciate it! [chuckling] So it didn’t work out. Well, that’s the problem. When we have this standard tuning that everybody’s tuned to and when we’re playing with people, we have to come to the agreement where we’re going to be tuned at. And what about accordions? I mean, all these instruments are tuned to that certain frequency.

 

So that’s a little bit of a, just a technical problem with this.

 

But it’s an interesting subject, and I do hope that maybe we’ll get some callers after the bottom of the hour on that subject.

 

I mean, I don’t want to be sounding like we’re jumping around one subject to another, but I think these things all kind of do relate back to us because it’s like we’re being, you know, damaged or assaulted on all fronts, and this is one of them. I do think that the musical frequencies is just another way that those who wish us harm are, you know, degrading us and this kind of thing. But unless you had something more that you wanted to talk about that.

 

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Grace: Well, yeah, let me ask you, more for people can also try and find things, but 432 mathematically is two to the fourth power times three to the third power. And I have seen documentation how it corresponds with many other amphithegorian numbers.

 

But we don’t have time to really go into that. But I feel like, and before we go into that, let me, can I give you my favorite quote of Mozart, which is that he said:

 

“Music is painted on the canvas of silence.”

 

And that’s the other thing we are lacking. We don’t have enough silence!

 

And the other thing is that I think there is, music is used especially, … How can I explain this? Okay. Records used to, the sound would come in waves.

 

And I’m not so sure about the cassette, but I think it’s still rather relaxing compared to the CDs, all this digital sound, they actually come in square blocks exactly like in the computer screen. If you enlarge it’s made from little squares.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes. Pixels and pixels, right?

 

Grace: Correct. And it’s the same thing with music. You break it down into blocks and then you remake it, but it’s in blocks as opposed to waves. This is my personal comment, and I’m very much interested if anybody else ever felt the same, but I don’t listen so much to CDs anymore. It hurts my ear after a while.

 

Monika Schaefer: That’s so interesting. There’s a real resurgence in people buying records. Records, actual records, because it is a different quality of sound. It really is. And I’m sure that many people are nodding their heads as we’re speaking about this. For sure. For sure.

 

And that quote, because I just interrupted just when you were saying it was Mozart, did you say?

 

Grace: Yes. It’s hard to find the original, so I cannot guarantee.

 

But it’s supposed to be something he wrote in a letter.

 

Monika Schaefer: I think it’s very apt. We do need silence, and it’s Sorely lacking. [chuckling]

 

Grace: And [chuckling] the fact that it’s only beautiful because there’s the pause is one. And second. Mozart was like a kind of child prodigy that can say:

 

“Oh, the birds are Twittering in G major.”

 

For example, and I think he could hear natural sounds and decipher them better than many of us.

 

But I think that’s one of the reasons why his work is so eternal. And it seems to, … I’ve read research is how it increases the IQ of children.

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh, yes.

 

Actually, that’s a very good point. People say if you have Mozarte while you’re studying, you do better on your exams! [chuckling]

 

Grace: Interesting! No? And so but shall I, … Let’s move to the next.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes, I just found this was the most interesting thing. And we’ll just have a couple of minutes before the bottom of the hour to touch on, but we’ll continue after the break. But you had talked to me about this Japanese. It’s a philosophy about the three stages of childhood. Go ahead.

 

Grace: It’s like a seven year cycle, but actually it corresponds very well to what Rudolph Steiner felt and thought, at least as far as education is concerned.

 

But this is the way I interpret. Well, in Japan, you are not adult until you are 20.

 

Monika Schaefer: Or 21? No? Because you said three times seven. The seven year cycle. Yes?

 

Grace: Well, although let’s say in the year that you will be 21, you are officially an adult. And it seems strange because if it’s just physical, you seem to have matured much earlier on. But apparently research has shown that human brain takes that long to genuinely finish maturing and growing, 20 years.

 

And the other thing I was trying to say is that, okay, for the first seven years, you’re just growing physically and you need a lot of physical activity. And then seven from 14, then you get your education in grammar and the basis. And then from, like, 14 till later, it’s, I think it corresponds to the classical concept of rhetoric. You know, grammar first, dialectic first, and then rhetorics. But it also, I don’t know exactly where and how I got this idea, but you’re physically, maybe even a 14, 15, you’re more or less done.

 

But as far as the concept of philosophy, physics, abstraction, spirituality, that kind of realm, you really don’t understand, you have to be at least 14, more or less. You know, we all have, like, I’m not talking about child prodigies or exceptional people. But usually it takes that long for you to really start to have that kind of capability to comprehend.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, it’s like the philosophical, the spiritual development, all of those things start after maturing.

 

We’ll come back after the break, Grace Eki, and you can discuss some of the factors that are stalling those processes. So please stick around and we’ll be back after the break.

 

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Monika Schaefer: All right, welcome back. That music is so beautiful! And it just makes me think of what you just told me about before World War Two, anyway, that it would have been commonplace for families in Europe and Germany to be playing chamber music together after supper, after dinner.

 

And can you imagine the enrichment that provided in their lives as opposed to being stuck in front of a screen.

 

But anyway, before we go on with our discussion, I’m just going to remind the listener, if you have the means, please, please do support the Republic broadcast broadcasting network.

 

And if you go to the website, there will be all the information there. There’s still the special on T-shirt that’s still going on right through September. A special T-shirt? I would say if you do, I think it’s a $100 donation.

 

And if you don’t have the means, there are other ways you can help this network, and that is by sharing these programs. And you can do that anyway, even if you are supporting financially or support the sponsors. Yeah. So this is not mainstream. We have such a we’re very fortunate to have the Republic Broadcasting Network so that we can speak freely and speak truth.

 

Okay. So we were going to get onto these three stages of development and this third stage, which is critically important, but it’s less visible to the eye because the physical growth has happened. And the learning, a lot of the learning is in school, like, you were talking about the grammar and this, that.

 

But this other thing that happens, it’s like philosophical spiritual development that comes in that third stage, does it not? And we had talked about, what are some of the things that could arrest that development? This is the critical part. Go ahead.

 

Grace: Well, like, I’ll put it bluntly. Sexualization! Over sexualization at a young age.

 

Now, the West is theoretically at least a Christian country.

 

And I think it’s somewhere in the Bible or the New Testament. Doesn’t it say something like:

 

“Children should not see wicked things.”

 

Or do you know?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, no, I’m not familiar with, did you say a Bible verse?

 

Grace: But, anyway, innocence should be protected and childhood should be protected. It’s like you don’t offer a cigarette to a six year old.

 

Monika Schaefer: Right? No! And what are we seeing in the schools? I mean, this is a subject that we talk about often. I’ve talked about it before, the hyper sexualization, and it is shocking what is going on in the schools. And this is a direct attack on us, on our people, on our children. And my goodness, it’s beyond even just exposure. It’s like downright, you know, poisoning of the minds. And then even physical like:

 

“Oh, yeah, you don’t feel like a girl today. You want to take these hormone puberty blocking things and, oh, well, oh, well, just. Sure, we can cut off that penis!”

 

I mean, it is just over the top, outrageously bad what is going on! And I mean, it already, it started a while back, but now it’s just accelerated to beyond belief! And, you know what you say:

 

“Okay, there’s hypersexual or over sexualization of children at too young, of age.”

 

This arrests, arrests their emotional development.

 

Grace: And many other things. And it’s like, I think this was the metaphor I gave to you. It’s like you cannot force open a flower to blossom while it’s in the bud. You would damage it forever! You have to have patience, and it has to grow. Everyone, basically, personally, you have to discover so-called sex or sexuality in some ways on your own, because the internal makings of a human being is far more complicated. And you have to let it blossom in quotation Mark “naturally”, because we have been so cut off from nature. So everyone has to kind of figure it out by refining their instinct.

 

But it’s just like children can mimic words to appear sophisticated, but to have had the experience to back it up.

 

And frankly, there was a Japanese writer that said he feels sorry for the younger generation of Japanese because in Japanese there is a word for “love”, and there is another word specifically for “falling in love”. And he said that children have no time, basically, to discover that mysterious emotion of falling in love, for example.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

 

Grace: And the other thing is you know why I think the other thing is, in childhood you must play a lot!

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

 

Grace: It’s very important. Well, one of the things, and also you can’t, I think, the way they keep the children so occupied. So yeah. Because sometimes you must have a lot of breathing space and you must sometimes even be bored for you to become creative. I wonder if that’s an oxymoron.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes, you’re absolutely right! I’ll just tell you, the German word for “boredom” is “Langeweile”, which literally means “long while”.

 

So it’s a completely different meaning on that. And I love that.

 

But, you know what? We have a couple of callers on the line.

 

Kathleen: Yes.

 

Monika Schaefer: And let’s take Kathleen from Texas.

 

Hello, Kathleen, are you there?

 

Kathleen: Hey, Monika and Grace. A great show. And I called because I heard an author interviewed about ten years ago, maybe on RBN, and he wrote a book called the “440 Conspiracy”. And it was all about. I heard him interviewed several times. It was very interesting. And he had said many of the things you’re talking about, but he was talking about that 432 was actually what everybody played before the Rockefeller changed it to all the marching bands of the horns were all made with the 440. And it was unnerving, and it was very good to get people nervous and upset about going to war or something.

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, is that something? So that sounds like a good book. Grace Eki, are you familiar with that book?

 

Grace: No, I don’t know that book. So thank you.

 

Monika Schaefer: Who was the author, please?

 

Kathleen: I don’t know that. I don’t remember the author’s name, but it was called, The 440 Conspiracy.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, I’m gonna write that down and I’m gonna look that up. That’s great!

 

Kathleen: It was about ten years ago, so.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, thank you. Do you have any additional comments?

 

Kathleen: No, I love your show. I mean, I heard you for a long time before you had the show. And you just been great. So I’ve enjoyed every one. And thank you so much!

 

Monika Schaefer: Thank you so much, Kathleen, for your call.

 

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Kathleen: Yes. Oh, I loved it when you said that you’re an ice skater in the wild. [chuckling]

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. [chuckling]

 

Kathleen: Wild skating. Oh, that’s so great.

 

And then all of your music, it’s wonderful! And, Grace, I really appreciated everything that you said, too.

 

Grace: Okay. So thank you so much!

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, thank you for your call. Okay. So, Mr producer, could we please have Nightingale on line three? Are you there?

 

Nightingale: Yes. Monika, can you hear me?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes, we can. Thank you. Would you like to add a comment or question?

 

Nightingale: Thank you so much! I’m overjoyed to meet you. I want to say it’s an honor to meet such a brave, talented, honorable lady. Thank you so much! Just a fact that you play the music for your bumper music. I said, wow, RBM is getting classy. Fun! [chuckling] It was so beautiful! What a change. Usually I shut the bumpers off. Some of the host I listen to, I run to the phone and say:

 

“I don’t want to hear that!”

 

And I wait till the ads and the music are gone. [chuckling]

 

But with you, …

 

Monika Schaefer: That’s sweet of you. Thank you. Did you have any questions or comments for your guest, Grace Eki?

 

Nightingale: Yes, yes, I’m getting there. This has been fascinating! I just turned it on. Sometimes I listen live, sometimes it doesn’t work for me. I’m always on the cell phone, but sometimes it does a bit, and I turn it on just when your wonderful guest, her name is Grace. She’s been very, very personal to me. What I heard, very fascinating! She talked about a beautiful., … It was a beautiful anecdote. She thinks it’s from Mozart. That “music is painted on the canvas of silence”.

 

And I wanted to add that that is so beautiful, because it’s not just music, but it’s, I think, pretty much everything. Mystic experiences, the feeling of sacred is also. Everybody talks about it. All the mystics are on the, come out of silence. Even our myths of creation come out of silence. Things were “created by the word”, Elvero Incarnado, which is Spanish. What is it, the word incarnate? I don’t know if that’s that. But yeah, but it’s sound. Started creating the manifest world, I guess.

 

So this is very, very beautiful. And I heard many beautiful things. I heard the comment about spirituality, Rudolf Steiner ideas, spirituality developed later on.

 

But I have to say that I have to disagree with that a bit because I had, personally, some very mystical experiences. A very, very young child. And they did start going away. I totally agree with the over sexualization, because I think that’s when they started going away for me. Sex was just very much in my face with the world I lived in, my parents, and a lot of violence and jealousy! [chuckling] And it was always sad for me as a very young child.

 

But then when I hit puberty, I was very, very curious, and I did naughty things. You know, I wanted to see what this wonderful thing was. Right? And I learned that it wasn’t what it was touted to be. If love is not involved, if the falling in love, like you mentioned, but it can be a lot of fun. But it’s not falling in love. That’s a totally different thing.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Nightingale: This has been very personal, what you were speaking of, because, yes, I had a, as a very young person before I was into sex, you might say, I had even incredible out of body experience, which I will always cherish. I hope that just before I die, I get there again, because it was like total unity.

 

I don’t know if you guys ever felt that, but the only experience I’ve ever had that I reserved the word “bliss” for. And it was just, it was just fascinating because I was totally not there. But you’re in everything when you exist, I guess, what people call a cosmic consciousness. And it was this overwhelming, powerful light that was so incredibly beautiful.

 

But then I was, it was going to annihilate me, which is a very mystery because I was not there, and yet I felt totally annihilation. And somewhere, I guess I was very young, somewhere in the body, I guess I wasn’t ready to go. And I was at the moment, so I realized that fear the root of all our issues, because it was fear that brought me back into the body. And then I felt so horrible to be back in the cave, and I just hated myself for being a coward! But someday maybe it’ll come back and I’ll be ready too.

 

Monika Schaefer: That’s an incredibly profound experience. Thank you for sharing that, Grace Aki, do you have any comments about it?

 

Nightingale: Well, it has a lot. Yes. It relates to everything you’re speaking of and I think I was lucky enough, even though I did have a very turmoil, not very happy household growing up. And yet my father did play classical music, and so I was imprinted with that. And it was the old vinyls, I must say! [chuckling]

 

And I think that is what, …

 

Monika Schaefer: Sorry, go ahead. Grace, did you want to comment on that.

 

Grace: Yes. That I wanted to say. I agree with her. You know, silence is the base of everything. And she was saying the Bible, I think. No, sorry the Testament in the beginning was the word, and word was “God”, but the word is “vibration with intent”. And I do kind of agree and with silence will show how important this intent and so-called vibration is, even more in the future.

 

And as speaking, I just wanted to make a comment as far as the frequency is concerned. You know those famous water crystals?

 

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Monika Schaefer: Yes.

 

Grace: Photographed. Well, if it’s the ones I have seen anyway, at A 432, it actually makes a flower. At A 4040, it makes the outline. It’s different.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes. And it scrambles it, doesn’t it? That’s what I’ve seen and heard.

 

Grace: Oh, it’s not as beautiful as 432. 432 definitely looks like a flower.

 

Monika Schaefer: Isn’t that something?

 

Grace: Yeah. Interesting!

 

Monika Schaefer: So, Nightingale, did you want to make a quick final comment? And then we’ll let you go, and I really appreciate that you called in and shared a your story with us. Yes, Nightingale.

 

Grace: Oh, perhaps she’s already gone.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, so let’s have John in New Hampshire, please. Are you there? Okay, yeah, that’s great! You see, this is such an interesting subject. I find it just fascinating! And the vibrations, the music, and then, of course, this. Go ahead.

 

John: Hello? Am I on?

 

Monika Schaefer: You are on. Is this John?

 

John: Right, right. Okay. Thanks a lot, ladies. That Grace perked me up because when she mentioned Verdi, I was born in the same province as Giuseppe Verdi, Parma. I was very, very happy to hear that. And I’m wondering maybe, hopefully, maybe I can get in touch with her. And I got some interesting stuff.

 

So maybe somehow we can get connected through you, Monika, or through the board. I don’t mean to be rude, but I also would like to see if I could get in touch with Kathleen from Texas. I’ve been trying to get in touch with her, too. So maybe through the board op or something. But if you could call back in, or I could leave my number or something like that.

 

But anyway, yeah, this is a very fascinating conversation. And that, Grace, you’re a pretty amazing, remarkable woman!

 

And, I mean, I love my Italian heritage and I love, … I was born in Parma, but I was only 14 months when I came to this country. But most of my relatives still live in Italy. So maybe we can get in touch or something like that. But anyway. Okay, see what you can do.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, I’ll just tell you how you can get in touch with me. My email address is posted on RBN. If you go to the host the page where they have my brief bio and that kind of thing. There is a, an email address posted there. Okay. So you could get in touch with me and then I could send your, I’ll get you connected with Grace.

 

John: Okay, I appreciate that. Do you think that would be a good way to get in touch with Kathleen from Texas?

 

Monika Schaefer: I have no idea. You’ll have to perhaps take that up with the producer. [chuckling]

 

John: Okay, great!

 

Monika Schaefer: So, yeah, and if you have a brief comment, final comment, because we have a couple of more callers on the line.

 

John: No, no, no, I’ll go, I’ll defer to them.

 

Monika Schaefer: So if that was John, thank you so much for your call. We have John from California.

 

Another John, are you there?

 

John: Yeah. So 528. I don’t know what, you know, about it. Good frequency or bad frequency?

 

Monika Schaefer: I don’t know. That’s a good question. Grace Eki, do you know, this 528?

 

Grace: I think it’s like you. Continue. I think it’s just a, C higher.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, I don’t know. I think I’ve heard things about it that are actually kind of terrifying about it, but I don’t know. I’m not sure. [chuckling] What do you know, about it, John?

 

John: Yes, well, I don’t know a lot about it. I know that it’s titled. There’s a guest, I won’t use names that comes on this RBN that claims it to be a love frequency. But I’ve heard from others that it’s a not so much.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. This is something we’re gonna have to do some more research on. Maybe the next caller will know. [chuckling]

 

Grace: But let me add that everything has a plus and a minus, the yin and the yang. So something that’s positive in one sense is possible, that it’s very, quite negative in another sense. But I’ve heard of this number. I think it was just, 2056 that you keep on going higher up. But I could be wrong.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay. John, did you have anything like to add?

 

John: Well, yeah, I don’t know a lot about it. Supposedly it’s called Esophageal [sp]. I don’t know if I pronounced it correctly, which was something that was kind of in Rome, they had this thing kind of under wraps for a long time. And supposedly someone got a hold of this following. It’s supposed to come from the Bible and, …

 

Anyway, I just wondered what you knew about it. But thank you very much. Great show.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay. Thank you for your call. Let’s take Chris from Alabama. And we really literally have just, 20 seconds left or so. chris, are you there?

 

Chris: Yeah. Hi, Monika. Sometimes when I have more time. I’m Chris from Alabama. I moved here from California along. I live in California. Born there in 57, married a Canadian woman in 88, and she’s lived in the United States for all this time. We’ve been to Canada many times. British Columbia.

 

Monika Schaefer: Did you have something for our guests?

 

Chris: That book is called The 440 Enigma, and it’s basically trying to blame the 440 frequency on a collaboration between the Rockefellers and the Nazis. And it has a swastika on the cover of it. And like everything else, they want to blame everything on the Nazis! I’m just adding that right now.

 

Monika Schaefer: Ha! Thanks for that. It does sound like we know that they’re lying to us about who are the “Nazis”, quote, unquote, and what they did and all that stuff. So that’s a little bit suspect, isn’t it? And the producer did write in the notes. Maybe it’s The 440 Enigma by LC Vincent.

 

Grace. Do you have a final comment? Just while the music is taking us out?

 

Chris: It’s a pleasure listening to you.

 

Grace: Yes. I wanted to say that, remember that your voice is the free gift of so-called God and nature, an instrument you already have inside and so is your body. And I think it’s in our DNA to love, to dance and sing, and it should help one when one that’s not really so happy. Thank you.

 

Monika Schaefer: Beautiful! Thank you for being my guest, and thank you to all the callers. Thank you very much.

 

Monika Schaefer: And thank you to the producer, too. Awesome job!

 

Grace: Thank you.

 

Monika Schaefer: Keeping everybody straight. Okay, bye bye.

 

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Monika Schaefer – The Flipside with Monika – Ep 1 – Intro – Jun 29, 2024 – Transcript

The Flipside with Monika – Ep 2 – Jul 6, 2024 – Transcript

The Flipside with Monika – Ep 03 with Paul Fromm – Jul 13, 2024 – Transcript

The Flipside with Monika – Ep 08 with Alfred Schaefer – Aug 17, 2024 – Transcript

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@ronfrost3372
4 hours ago (edited)
He is 100% right about poisoning our kids with processed foods! It would be amazing to put him in charge of this!!!
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@ChelseaCollie
4 hours ago
Yes!!!
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@susanawright7757
3 hours ago
Get rid of all these damaging additives, artificial colors, flavors, fake food!
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@jg5571
2 hours ago
Fix in two years….never happen. He doesn’t understand what it would take.
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@djskum
1 hour ago
​@susanawright7757 processes that help consumers take the time to shop for them!!! It is the lack of exorcize that is making people unhealthy today!! The old adage ” I walked five miles to school, in the snow up hill both ways” was true for a lot of us and we still do it today but I don’t hear anyone talking about that?
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@luizsoares4847
1 hour ago
​ @jg5571 You know better than him right? Youtube is full of specialists.
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@dineshbhusal600
1 hour ago
And trump loves those foods
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@debradebra9746
52 minutes ago
Although I can’t stand trump, RFK jr is spot on about the poisonous processed food, the over-reliance on Pharma, and damaged young people.
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@618NoRRiS024
40 minutes ago
It’s really easy just not to eat the bad food and teach your children young
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@paulthomas-hh2kv
4 hours ago
Thank to Fox News for showing full speech, only getting edited speech here in UK, controlled media
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@supernova5107
2 hours ago
Americans are very worried and depressed about the future of our country. This was a great breath of fresh air in the right direction.
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@helenwilliams6773
1 hour ago
I am a former Independent, having recently joined the Republican party. I’m so impressed by your speech. Finally, I’m hearing about ISSUES. The Democratic party, if it remains in power on its current trajectory, will quickly destroy what remains of this wonderful country. You are to be highly commended for speaking out like this. I pray very much for a Republican win and your participation in the resulting administration.
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@Thepetpedisock
5 hours ago
Pray for this man. He’s exposed their agenda.
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@bobweaver7799
5 hours ago
He did it without sounding like a nut job too that’s the main thing. He just spoke pure fact.
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@Hoellewood_Solutions
5 hours ago
Just like his uncle
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@amylynnhunt55
4 hours ago
I loved this speech, will definitely keep him in my daily prayers. Because I became sick and then disabled with chronic illness really young, and still live with it, the thought of other people going through it has always been heartbreaking to me, I feel very encouraged that Robert can do great things in this area.
Its so much more expensive being sick for 30 years that possibly preventing it. He’s even standing up to his family to do this, how rare and selfless
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@donnadallas1213
4 hours ago
One of the best speeches I’ve ever heard! I’m with RFK and I’m with Trump/Vance!
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@gklug305
4 hours ago
Hillary will probably show up on his door step while the Secret Service makes a coffee run….
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@susanawright7757
4 hours ago
Hes very smart and has a medical condition of his voice box. Get a grip.​@trump1termer560
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@enmanuelmartinez709
4 hours ago
Yeah he is controlled oposition
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@NickDrinksWater
3 hours ago
More and more people are doing the same. They can’t stop us all
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@robinforbes3852
3 hours ago
I don’t understand it so unlike any Kennedy! Surely it’s the man’s business and not mine however I feel bad about it. I was in fifth grade when they pulled me out of school go home because JFK had been shot everybody loves the Kennedys. The Kennedy family have sure suffered enough. DONT ASK WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO YOU,ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY. I proudly served. Bone spurs? Really?
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@careycohill
2 hours ago
Amen!!!!
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@lorischadler2871
1 hour ago
​@robinforbes3852 he is an honorable man!!! Knows that the USA is in big trouble and he loves America….just like his father and uncle did!!! What a great man!
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@jamesgraham4952
1 hour ago
Thanks youtube for all the democratic campaign ads during this video. We know exactly who your corporate intrests back! Keep wasting your time showing me these….the Dem(on)s will NEVER get a contribution from me!
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@claudiacurado2329
1 hour ago
Yes let’s pray for him
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@lindagreen9638
51 minutes ago

@tc2241
46 minutes ago
He is the agenda

@dabrip9675
4 hours ago
Incredible speech… Trump 2024. Save our kids and our future. Stop the poisoning of our food and health system
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@luciuswilson6565
1 hour ago
RFK will be an enormous, positive addition to the Trump administration. He is brilliant and has the sincerity rarely seen in any public figure.
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@MindfulVisitor
1 hour ago
I’m a Canadian. What happens in the USA directly affects my country. I pray for Trump and Kennedy. I hope Americans see that this is their last chance and the last chance for the world in our lifetimes.
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@behold_new_things
6 hours ago
RFK Jr, to representatives of MSM in room: “You didn’t, alone, cause the devolution of American democracy. But you could have prevented it.”
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@lewisholmes5745
4 hours ago (edited)
THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST AND MOST SINCERE SPEECHES I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY 73 YEARS ON THE PLANET!! BRAVO MR. KENNEDY BRAVO!!!!
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@sandrao8146
1 hour ago
What is so sad is that I didn’t even know RFK JR was running till I saw him on Dr Phil. He’s been blocked at every turn. Glad he’s joining forces with Trump. Great speech and I’ll be voting for you gentlemen.
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@SteveKitsmiller
3 hours ago
This is absolutely what this country desperately needs. I would love to have voted for him but knew that my vote would not have counted. Thank you RFKJ for putting USA first.
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@LReno-di9cm
5 hours ago
REPEAL THE PATRIOT ACT AND FISA COURT
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@eldutcho3576
5 hours ago
This man has to be protected at all costs! A true patriot.
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@michelethompson2878
1 hour ago
RFK is a wonderful man, and I’m so happy that he’s joining Donald Trump !! With all the great, wonderful people who are joining and endorsing Trump, we’ll get America back again!!
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@prov2.3-5
2 hours ago
Did he say 77% of our kids are not physically able to serve in our military?!!!!
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@tedlahm5740
5 hours ago
Will need STRONGER personal security after this speech.
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@tony_lopez
5 hours ago
RFK endorses Trump and gave the most powerful speech I’ve heard in a long time. He had the guts to speak the truth about the corruption of the democrat party. Bravo sir!
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@Nathan-kq2ec
2 hours ago
RFK is the man. He is right, it is the food.
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@raygross1931
1 hour ago
First time I have ever teared up on a political speech!
RFK Jr. is a great man!

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@jackhays1194
2 hours ago
Young folks, this is what Democrats used to sound like. Sure we differ on issues, but did not have doubts about their patriotism or commitment to the USA.
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@chromatic1976
4 hours ago
Immediately hated by fake news
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@christinahenley2359
2 hours ago
I am a republican who followed your campaign, even donated, even though im voting for Trump. Sir, you are brave and will be known as a hero of democracy that your family will be proud of!
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@curtisd2842
1 hour ago
Democrats lost a lot of lifetime voters today. He spoke the ugly truth about their party, and articulated it perfectly
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@kathyhaemmerle2638
4 hours ago
We are Independents but we will never vote Democratic again.
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@erikh8
1 hour ago
Finally someone talking about how trash our food is
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@judyfreeman5193
1 hour ago
RFK all the way! I live in Michigan so if you want me to vote for Trump I will but my real vote is for RFK. You have my admiration and support.
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@michaelthomas8539
6 hours ago
If he gets in trumps cabinet. I want him in charge of the FDA. He is a crusader for health. We need him desperately.
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@joemilburn5963
6 hours ago
More patriots and less party hacks.
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@Mrsgreermurrieta
3 hours ago
I’m a retired secondary ed teacher. The majority of healthy food like apples at schools ends up in the trash cans while the nasty looking pizza is eaten by students. Parents need nutrition education and schools should have only healthy food served. Take away all unhealthy choices even cookies. Kids will still bring bad stuff to school, but our tax dollars should buy healthy food. Go back to cooked lunches using healthy food. So many students thanked me and told me my foods class finally taught them enough to make themselves healthy food. Parents are gone to work and they get their own food
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@CatchTheBuzz1
2 hours ago
He is a good man who comes from a very special family. Trump and Kennedy is great news. The wickedness since Obamacare has made it so impossible for people to have A baby and therefore children. You have to be either poor and on Medicaid or Rich
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@yomilkers8133
6 hours ago
One of the most important speeches in American History
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@reflect-withstyle
4 hours ago
I am 13minutes in – … This Guy has the Brains and the Skills and the Heart … America should be grateful to embrace a skilled and honest Politician as RFKJr. Way To Go, Respect! ***
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@ryanasencio8299
1 hour ago
Powerful. Moving. He recognizes that he’s simply a public servant, and in turn, I recognize that he is a true patriot.
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@judymajor1290
1 hour ago
This man is brilliant. He still hears that small, holy voice of reason.
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@joshuadaniels2229
5 hours ago
What a true American! God speed Bobby! Thank you for standing up for We The People!
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@mickeywelch4880
4 hours ago
THANK YOU! You are very intelligent as well as knowledgeable. I have great respect for you. TRUMP 2024!!!
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@yogininatalie
2 hours ago
RFK I love you and you are the only candidate to give me some hope in humanity !
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@AlexNelson17
5 hours ago
There are very few people in politics who are as honest and thoughtful as RFK Jr. I hope that we see him a high level position in Trump’s next administration.
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@christopherjordan6380
5 hours ago
200 billion to ukraine while lying to the people and only 1500 per family in lahaina is the most telling of where the democrats interest truly lies. Wolves in sheep clothing.
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@SurePal95
2 hours ago
You’re the Man RFK ! ” who needs policy when you have Trump to hate ?” Genius
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@MrGrneggz
3 hours ago
This man has some serious integrity and people need to listen and wake up.
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@robbiedolev6109
6 hours ago
The content of RFK’s speech aside, I take my hat off to him for speaking off the cuff and not reading off a teleprompter, as biden and harris and obama before them would have done.
This is an attribute of true leader.
Any fool can read off a teleprompter, and many of the fools do.
There was a teleprompter set up but he appeared to refer to it every now and then only as bullet points, a perfectly legitimate way of giving a long speech.
Such a man is an asset and should be properly exploited by the Republicans to drive harris and her shoddy campaign off a cliff into the abyss, where it rightly belongs.
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@carminazlife
4 hours ago
Because of you, Nicole and Tulsi, I’m enlisting on this fight. I’m independent/conservative now. Against late term abortion, big pharma, big government, war mongering, illegal immigration, transgender movement pushing it to school aged children, and free money to illegals.
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@susanh326
3 hours ago
We love you Bobby Jr. America loves you. Thank you for all you have done. You will continue to do good works and I will be watching. Bless you. And our good country.
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@davidhorowitz4037
1 hour ago
He’s so right about processed foods. It’s absolutely evil.
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@adamdeitrick1801
4 hours ago
RFK, I know you will most likely never see this comment but you are what America needs. I agree with everything in your speech and most importantly I believe you have inspired Americans to do what’s right regardless of what money tells them. You are a real American patriot and thanks for everything. I look forward to you changing our policies.
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@ginadean5696
6 hours ago
Towards the end he teared up, I teared up over helping the issue of children’s health and disease caused by the food industry and big pharma’s as a poor alternative to healthy organic food, exercise. I am 62 and we had longer recesses as a part of our school day. Also, cleaning out the toxins of all the processed food. Thank You Mr Kennedy!
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@ellynalgarin335
2 hours ago
Let’s give RFK, Jr Secret Service protection now!
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@user-ij6xs4ut7j
2 hours ago
This is THE speech America needed and needs to hear. This speech should be played everywhere and everyday! Thank you Mr. Kennedy for standing up and speaking the truth! God help us!
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@cindybresaw5294
6 hours ago
What a class act, sir… CLASS ACT!! I am a Trump Supporter through and through, and cannot wait for your involvement, your passion, and your extreme love of country and children to grace this nation… Thank you for your passion and such concern for removing these HORRIBLE food additives and a solutions instead of BIG PHARMA!! So, sooooo, glad you are such a great soul!!
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@americaamerica8579
6 hours ago
YouTube is doing their best to censor this video. I counted 16 commercial so far. Mostly Harris and Tim. RFK is dropping some truth.
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@aromanmcse
1 hour ago
I never gave this man a chance due to ignorance and for this I extend my sincerest apologies. He cares 1000% about our great USA.
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@rickkrockstar
2 hours ago
My parents were JFK democrats, But they would not recognize the democrat party today. As a Trump supporter < I am proud that there are still Kennedys that support real values.
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@sherondametzger1564
6 hours ago
WOW!!!!! I will never vote Democrat again.. He is the last of the old Democrat party that cared about the people. RFK jr. endorsing DJT speaks volumes… We hear you RFK jr. loud and clear. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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@trackinghope7779
6 hours ago
It would be amazing if RFK was made head of the CIA. This cabinet is turning out to be fantastic!
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@noheapai4145
1 hour ago
I hope Trump adds him to his administration when he takes the White House
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@eagleair15c
2 hours ago
I don’t agree with EVERYTHING that RFK stands for, but I sincerely believe he is a good man. The country would be in good hands with his leadership.
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@ronilittle7028
5 hours ago (edited)
The best speech I have heard in a very long time! I THANK God for RFK, and that he is joining the Trump campaign! I hope he runs for president again, in the future!
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@amberspellman642
4 hours ago
So powerful! Thank you Mr. Kennedy for speaking the truth!!

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@karenfitzgerald6308
3 hours ago
I attended his announcement in Boston to run for president and I have been a volunteer since moment one. Thank you Bobby, for your profound sacrifice during this campaign and before. I am with you, and thank you for your courage, your clarity, your wisdom. May you continue to be the force for good that you have modeled for millions of us.
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@spartandzvtennis
2 hours ago
This man would have been the best president yet to date
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@remmes1982
4 hours ago
That may have been the greatest speech in a generation.
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@57stuey
1 hour ago
This was honestly a better speech than either of the convention speeches.
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@ebony-jane
1 hour ago
I LOVE that he is talking about processed foods, seed oils, vaccines, chronic illness and the autism issue!!
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@henrychristle8754
4 hours ago
RFK Jr, your devotion to America never ceases to amaze me. You decision elevates the arena above an athletic sporting event. The future of America is serious business. thank you, Mr. Kennedy.
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@la6136
5 hours ago
Make RFK Jr head of the FDA. That is the perfect position for him.
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@yogininatalie
2 hours ago
Best speech I have ever heard in politics- most genuine, honest and sincere. Truly touched. Respect you beyond words
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@davidbunch1080
2 hours ago
Well, corruption won.
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@LianeJamason
6 hours ago
One of the best speeches I’ve seen in my lifetime.
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@halo3tes4
5 hours ago (edited)
Thank you RFK jr , your dad and uncle would be proud
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@debgutierrez3237
2 hours ago
His overview of the Ukraine war is spot on.
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@claudiacurado2329
1 hour ago
He spoke nothing but truth may God bless him with Long Life !! This is a man that truly loves his country and its people !!
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@sarahbates6729
6 hours ago
We need to “love our children more than we hate each other”- Amen…
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@kzgroovy
1 hour ago
Bravo!!! I cannot agree more-we need to love our children more than we hate each other! Thank you for getting a million signatures-thank you for being a voice of reason.
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@collincutler4992
6 hours ago
I never thought I’d see the day where a Kennedy, literal US political royalty, would leave the Democratic party.
That’s the state of our country.
Good for this man.
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@costarica5907
6 hours ago (edited)
Tulsi Gabbard hadnt said it as much & so deeply well …glad you explained so transparently. Thank you RFK….now get alongside TRUMP and drain the swamp.
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@Josh_8300
1 hour ago
These iceholes… obama ad space on jfk jrs speech trying to get money for kamala.
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@johnmarcucci1719
2 hours ago
This is what “saving democracy” looks like.
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Rusty-Hinge
18 days ago
I was there, and not one of those hypocrites offered me a Welsh cake.
Some of their “peaceful” demonstrators told me “you are f…ing dead” though.
They were wrong about that too.
Morons!

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Bort Sampson
18 days ago
Everyone that wants diversity is going to get it good and hard….and unlubed

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18 days ago
I simply cannot comprehend how a quick look at the UK’s brown towns doesn’t make people become anti-immigration.

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By Their Works
18 days ago
Just like in Jewmerica, they stay in their White enclaves 24/7, like hypocrites, while they virtue signal and subvert the same culture they depend on and have succeeded because of. Retarded “GoodWhites” programmed for racial suicide and treason.

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@boyksno1
3 days ago
They don’t look, if anyone tries to show them they call them racists, they live in 100% English communities and never ever listen to the complaints of those who have to experience the results of mass immigration.
Like all useful idiots they won’t admit there is a problem until it is far too late, that’s why you get examples like this town.

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White_Noise
18 days ago
Whites are participating in a sellection event.

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@FLAMING_POOP_RUB
18 days ago
Whites are being exposed to a series of intelligently devised selection events, never seen before on planet earth. It’s why we call it a “Genocide”, it’s like wondering why a previously healthy field of wheat isn’t doing well, when the farmer is using seawater to water the field, releasing rabbits, using the wrong mineral supplements for wheat crop and allowing weeds to choke the wheat sprouts.

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@Jiveturkey0001
18 days ago
Yeah, the Oofy Doofy Whites and the oldies are getting selected out. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

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@Pelagius14
18 days ago
Retards. I am tired of talking to these boomers, let them become living examples of why we are right and they are wrong. Let them live in the bed they make.

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The Pork Report
18 days ago
Except that it harms the rest of us. And leftists are so evil that they liked to see other Whites harmed.

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@Pelagius14
17 days ago
Boomers and leftists are the same, you are right they both enjoy harming us. F them both

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@noreplacement
18 days ago
Plenty of boomers fight for nationalism. In a blink, you will be in your 60s and youngsters will be blaming you. Don’t divide, unite and fight.

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@Pelagius14
17 days ago
I have never met any, not a single one.

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@noreplacement
7 days ago
You should get out more

@SaxonWarrior
17 days ago
There are plenty of young kids doing the same anti-White shit.

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@Pelagius14
17 days ago
Young kids who have zero say in anything.

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Rill
15 days ago(edited)
Kids haven’t had decades to self reflect on their terrible decisions. I really try not to be divisive but the guys right, the vast majority of boomers are retarded when it comes to race.

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@Deanfranjek
18 days ago
As someone who knows Wales . I can tell you the vale of Glamorgan is littered with stupid liberal types . They tried working class Llanelli and failed . Their own fault . Idiots

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@chipsnsalsa99
18 days ago
Idiots drank the kool-aid. They need to take a look across the Irish Sea for a better approach.

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ThinRedLine
18 days ago
so true

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@Shitfest
18 days ago
Father Counsell would be wise to recall that priests have been killed by refugees in recent years.

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@donttracemebro
18 days ago
Mark should go interview that priest in about 6 months to see how he feels now

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@Jiveturkey0001
18 days ago
Goes to show ya that age doesn’t always bring wisdom.

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@boyksno1
3 days ago
He’s not much of a priest though seeing as he clearly has never read the bible. That sign stating that Jesus Christ was a refugee is a blatant lie. He never fled any war, his mother and adoptive father lived peacefully in Judea, as far as can be determined he never left his country of origin and he died there. The whole king Herod killing all the babies thing doesn’t even fit the refugee narrative, seeing as it occured in a town that his family was passing through and never extended past its boundaries, nor was it a case that his family had to flee pursuers at any other time after that one night.
So no Jesus Christ was not a refugee.

Dissident Doctrine
18 days ago
Llan-twits. I hope this lesson isn’t lost on them.

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@EihwazUllrman
18 days ago
Vainglorious virtue signallers only ever learn anything the hard way.

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@boyksno1
18 days ago(edited)
There is a certain look they all have, a sort of vacant dimwitted gaze, mouth gaping as they prepare to vomit verbal garbage.
Anyway good luck with your brand new ghetto courtesy of the traitor government who you support.

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Rusty-Hinge
18 days ago
Excellent round up of the situation Mark.
Perhaps a follow up on the neighbouring St. Athan?

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Caesar Himself
18 days ago
The Irish people set these jew bunkers on fire. Welsh bros take note

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@Danny
18 days ago
This is horrible but I don’t think anything will change until every do-gooder has diversity rubbed into their faces with nowhere to run. Maybe then they will at least keep quiet when “fascists” try to help our people.

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The Pork Report
18 days ago
The stupidity of the leftist locals is staggering. I think they want to be replaced because they are too stupid and weak for this world.

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@ИванКожедуб
18 days ago
If Patriotic Alternative were in charge the general population would be just as enthusiastic in the opposite direction.

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The Pork Report
17 days ago
True. In a sane society, the mainstream would simply be working their jobs and raising their families.

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Baron Brezzik
18 days ago
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Jesus was a refugee? Oh really?
Was Jesus black, gay and female too?

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0KT0BER
18 days ago
He’s everyone!

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@Jiveturkey0001
17 days ago
“Was Jesus black, gay and female too?”
Depends on the church you attend, but it’ll be one of the above, yes.

JimB
18 days ago
(((Liberal))) mind-virus.
“Jesus Was A Refugee”, I think, lays bare at least 90% of the problem. Jesus, according to their Bibles (or the Buy Bull as I like to call it), was indeed an (((other)))… and 95% of the teachings attributed to this character can be summed up as imploring his devotees to become anti-racist, passivist, rejectors of tangible reality and trusters of The Plan. People can argue against these facts all they want, but if they’re truly honest and are capable of seriously scrutinizing their religion’s core dogmas they will reach the same conclusions.

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WhiteLightWhiteHeat
15 days ago
Christians lead The Inquisition. They weren’t pussies. The church has been overtaken by the tribe.

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JimB
15 days ago(edited)
I’m not saying there wasn’t a time when Christianity was violent. To deny that is to deny historical reality. No, early Christian movements were VERY capable of dishing out extreme hurt. After all, they conquered our ancestors with triple salvos of ideological subversion, intolerance and terror.
“The greatness of Christianity was not established through compromise. They had no reason to engage in negotiations of appeasement with those who had roughly similar, ancient philosophical opinions. It was created through unyielding and fanatical declaration and defense of its own teachings…Christianity could never be content with building its own altar. It was driven to destroy pagan altars. The faith could only grow when there was no controversy, and it did grow out of this fanatical intolerance. In fact, intolerance is absolutely indispensable for the growth of any faith. Now one may object and say such occurrences in world history are related mainly to Jewish ways of thinking, and it is true that this kind of intolerance and fanaticism are common symptoms of Jewish nature. This may be right a thousand times over; however, it is part of all history, and though deeply regrettable, and though we may only grudgingly admit it is part of history, and you can even say this intolerance is not part of human nature, yet it does not change the fact that this is how the world exists today…People today may be troubled to discover that the first intellectual terrorism was inflicted by Christianity on the unrestricted ancient world. However, he will not be able to dispute the fact that since that time, the world has been driven and dominated by Christian forces. Force can only be broken by force, and terrorism can only be broken by terrorism. Only then can a new order be created.” (Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf)
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JimB
15 days ago(edited)
established as THE religion of “our people”, once our gentile/pagan ancestors were tamed, Christendom itself naturally became tame… and deracinated, tolerant, willing and eager to suffer the “stripes of the devil”, the wounds inflicted upon the faithful by the cruel world so that they might in part emulate their crucified savior. This was always the logical outcome of Christianity; Jews didn’t need to subvert what was already baked into the cake.

Snowman
18 days ago
I have no sympathy for them. Even when the truth dawns, they still can’t be honest. They deserve all the blessings of diversity!

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Matt Hammond
18 days ago
It’s almost as if they’ll just keep lying and lying and lying and lying and lying and lying and lying and lying and lying and lying until we finally put our foot down.

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By Their Works
17 days ago
That’s it, brother! If we keep putting up with it, they will just cackle with glee, and continue on with our destruction.

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my garden birds
16 days ago
How could they be so f—-///g stupid? Hope they enjoy the diversity, they deserve it.

@noreplacement
18 days ago
Perhaps, PA should do some busking there and sing “Who’s Sorry Now” ha ha.

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– 🗲 GamerMosleyMomentUK 🗲 –
18 days ago
The fist of consequence seldom arrives lubed.

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@Jiveturkey0001
18 days ago
Think I’ll put that on a T-shirt.

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MichaelB
18 days ago(edited)
Those that the Gods wish to destroy, they first make Christian. Hail Jupiter!

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@Pelagius14
18 days ago
Lol if you knew religious history you would realise why its funny you say that

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TheCeltDenise
18 days ago
Keep coping, kristard

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@Pelagius14
17 days ago
I am not christian/. You and the majority have zero knowledge of religious history or religion and just parrot adam greenbergs lies.

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TheCeltDenise
17 days ago
I came to my own conclusions about the yid psy opp called “Christardinsanity” LONG before I ever heard of Green. I am a PAGAN. I follow and revere AUTHENTIC WHITE Gods, you absolute TOOL.

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@Pelagius14
17 days ago
Yeah exactly, funny how your “own conclusion” is the same one that benefits the jew. I am pagan also, but I am not a total retard that panders to the jewish supremacy narrative that they created all religion including Christianity.

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TheCeltDenise
17 days ago
Uh huh. Bye.

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@Justsomeguy115
15 days ago
jesus was a jew

@Jiveturkey0001
18 days ago
From the look of it, not much of value was lost with the death of this town. Lot of people in these circles tend to get a bit triggered when i point it out, but the fact is that not all White people can be reached or saved. Nor should they. A good portion are not just “brainwashed” or “mislead”, they’re loud and proud race traitors who can’t wait to throw their own under the bus or directly to the wolves in some cases. These types are, in my opinion, a flat out liability that we can’t afford to have around at this stage of the game. Maybe it’s better if they take themselves out of the equation.
It’s sad that you can’t trust other white people, but what can ya do? You gonna let them drag you under the water to drown with them? What good is that? Not me. White lives matter, but so does my life. I’m not wasting it on lost causes. But you guys go right ahead if that’s your thing. I don’t mind telling you that the people who have caused the most problems in my life…the people who screwed me over the worst…were my own People. That doesn’t mean I want them to disappear or wish ill on them, but it’s the truth.

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Wibble
18 days ago
Hard not to gloat….
None of them would be able to point to a single city, town, village or even country where “Diversity” has been a roaring success for anyone other than immigrants, but they sowed…now they can reap….i bet they cry themselves to sleep watching their property prices tumble….

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@PureNomad
18 days ago
Great video Mark, amazing it all went wrong for them… who’d have thought it

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Infinity7
18 days ago
The knuckle dragging whiggers got what they deserved I’m glad about it

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@SammichLubber
18 days ago
At the end of the day I see everything as it should be. Pain suffering and death en masse is coming to most White folk i the near future. They won’t understand why and will vilify us till their end. This is what I envision happening. No one will respect a people who do not defend themselves.

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@Grumpole
18 days ago
The leftie mind virus that contaminated Lant twit residents is a national terminal disease that destroys the thinking abilities of humans. Its our version of America’s TDS.

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@FriedrichC
18 days ago
They are slowly learning.

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@IberiaforIberians
18 days ago
How are We patriots going to face so many threats?

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ThinRedLine
18 days ago
all we can do is to continue the fight, more people are coming around to our ideas though

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Snowman
18 days ago
It’s too slow tho. They will be at the brink before they understand what they’ve done.

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@IberiaforIberians
17 days ago
Hitler had numerous allies and obviously many enemies, but now ,in our european lands and cities we have 64 millions of invaders, Germany has 26% of them. Add to them the half of the white native population of each country that votes “Agenda 2030” . I mean i really have no idea where to hide and have a peaceful white life.

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@Jiveturkey0001
17 days ago
I don’t think they are, honestly. I’d be shocked if 1 in 10 Whites graduate to our level of thinking even after multiple negative, even life-threatening, experiences. My observation is that a person either gets it, or they don’t. It seems like there could be a strong genetic factor at work here. Racial conciousness appears to be far more prevalent in some Whites than others. Even Whites who have never been exposed to ethno-nationalist material. It just comes naturally to them.

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WhiteMan
11 days ago
totally agree with this, long before i discovered the truth about race, i knew something was wrong about having different races so close to me. at about 12 years of age i actually had a nightmare where i was walking around the area i grew up and it was full of arabs and mosqs i understood nothing about the world but i dreamed this, later in life when i was a little older in my first job working on a shop till i noticed how different races act it was so obvious to me. then i got a little older and got my first proper girl friend, i would point stuff out and she could not see it she thought i was racist and had me watch films like amarican history x and she convinced me that i was the problem. I was with this girl for another 2 years the whole time i just ignored my instinct, a few years after me and this girl split up i fell right back into it because i was seeing more and more arabs and blacks turning up. sorry long story just to tell you that I think your right haha cutting it short during covid i stumbled on europa the last battle, and the greatest story never told and everything suddenly made sense to me, but it was easier for me to grasp what i was hearing and reading because I had this instinct already in me.
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Earthling Carl
15 days ago
That town won’t exist in a few decades after being around for centuries, very sad.

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Bunyip Nationalist
17 days ago
these idiots should have known aint no Ukrainians gonna live in a refugee centre

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@Deanfranjek
18 days ago
Liberalism must be destroyed mr collet Hh

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ThinRedLine
18 days ago
the good of the village will be met with… well diversity

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@FLAMING_POOP_RUB
18 days ago
This series of events should be a talking point for PA when they protest the next replacement centre, because that community is D E A D, first their shops and pubs will go, then the public amenities like parks will become no-go zones, finally they will be left living as prisoners in their own homes, having to drive 30 minutes to buy groceries, the lucky ones who paid off their mortgages will have the choice of selling their homes for a fraction of the price in 2022-3, the unlucky ones will be stuck paying off a worthless mortgage or defaulting and renting for what remains of their lives.
The people who counter-protested are horrible people who deserve what is coming for them. They are the kind of amoral people who will always side with authority, they are schoolyard tattletales grown up, But they are the minority, most people are so beaten down they just kept their hopes and worries to themselves. Now their peaceful little community has the deathly problems of innercity Hull or London airdropped onto their doorstep. I have nothing but sympathy in my heart for the ordinary Llantwitian. It’s not right.

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By Their Works
17 days ago
and PA may just have to go back as it goes to shit and recruit anyone worth saving.
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Wonderful World
18 days ago
Ukrainan are as loud, dirty and stupid as African. That was my experience encountering with them. What is worth of welcoming them as refugees? I believe that this entire Ukranian refugee thing is another plan to destroy Europe. Always usual suspects are behind all of this. Normies can not see it. Sad….

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@Shitfest
18 days ago
They’re greedy parasites. The Irish government even paid for them to bring their damn pets over.

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SURIYAN
18 days ago
You’re retarded.

MagicManintheSky
18 days ago
I believe these “Ukrainians” hail from Sub-Saharan Africa and the Indian Sub-Continent.

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SURIYAN
18 days ago
You’re a retard. In my experience, Ukrainians are generally good people. Doesn’t mean I want tons of their refugees coming over, but comparing them to africans is ridiculous. You dont seem very bright, though, so I’m not surprised. Also, Ukrainians are european. Dummy.

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@Aunt-Sally
16 days ago
When being proved right is both sad and tragic at the same time. I feel really sorry for those that didn’t get their voices heard and are forced to suffer the consequences of the actions of proud and boastful fools

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@WhiteWalker
18 days ago(edited)
When the western demonic overlords decide to start WWIII, everyone remember who the actual enemy is and have at it.

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By Their Works
17 days ago
Yeah, IDK what Shabbos Goy politicians think is going to happen to them when the destruction they have facilitated gets into full swing. Are they going to be raptured to The Great Goy plantation in the sky? They will be hunted for street cred, ffs.

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bumbm
17 days ago
Pretty much the entire ruling class of the west deserve extermination at this point…

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@Kronos
18 days ago
Haha “some local dickhead”.

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The Awakened Saxon
17 days ago
Major Dimwits

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@Articulus
17 days ago
Karma Llantwit… You should have resisted when you had the chance.

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Htrac
17 days ago
People need to suffer the consequences of their actions if they are ever to learn to stop being retarded.

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bumbm
17 days ago(edited)
Mark Colett are any of you nationalists ever going to do a video on telegony and the tainted wombs of the many young whores who go with the trend and gets blacked? Or is that too defeatist a topic to touch on lmao!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141001090238.htm

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Snowman
18 days ago
Lol “bone head”. How is it we have so many virtue signalling morons in our midst now?

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NAVO
18 days ago
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@Lutherdavies
18 days ago
Llan TWIT.

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@ProWhite4Ever
18 days ago(edited)
What Future Awaits A Darkening Europe? Read The “𝟏𝟗𝟖𝟒” Of Our Time! 🢂𝗛𝗢𝗟𝗗 𝗕𝗔𝗖𝗞 𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗦 𝗗𝗔𝗬🢀 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘓𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘞𝘩𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘖𝘯 𝘌𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘩 & 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘝𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘚𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘭𝘦 𝘛𝘰 𝘚𝘶𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘷𝘦 ᴀᴠᴀɪʟᴀʙʟᴇ ᴀᴛ ᴏɴʟɪɴᴇ ʙᴏᴏᴋꜱᴇʟʟᴇʀꜱ
What Future Awaits A Darkening America? Read The “𝟏𝟗𝟖𝟒” Of Our Time! 🢂𝗛𝗢𝗟𝗗 𝗕𝗔𝗖𝗞 𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗦 𝗗𝗔𝗬🢀 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘓𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘞𝘩𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘖𝘯 𝘌𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘩 & 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘝𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘚𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘭𝘦 𝘛𝘰 𝘚𝘶𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘷𝘦 ᴀᴠᴀɪʟᴀʙʟᴇ ᴀᴛ ᴏɴʟɪɴᴇ ʙᴏᴏᴋꜱᴇʟʟᴇʀꜱ
:thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

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Speak your mind
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@EverybodywakeUp
17 days ago
these people deserve what they get.

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Dawn Browning
18 days ago
We were brought up to be kind to everyone else. Some of us woke up. Have pity on those who don’t understand that no pity will be given to them.
Love Love to all the Beautifuls

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@Jiveturkey0001
18 days ago
I’m all out of pity for these pathetic ingrates. They’re traitors and proud of it. Fk’em. They got what they deserved.

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Pro Patria: Patriot and Nationalist Channels
13 days ago(edited)
End quotation, not “…end quote”. There is no such thing as a “quote”. Quotation is the noun, the verb form is quote. For example, “I would like to quote a quotation by Mark, “Those who the Gods wish to destroy…”, end quotation.

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@redcalx
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Gwyn is not gwynning now

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Instinct
15 days ago
This is beautiful. I hope we can import Africans into every town, family, and household in the world.

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Ya..I..Know
17 days ago
Well I can’t say I will miss them.

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DdraigDewi
18 days ago
The morons don’t seem to realise that the migrants are fascists themselves, I mean look at the countries they came from, they haven’t left those shit holes to escape from them, they left them to conquer other nations.

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SURIYAN
18 days ago
They aren’t fascists. I dont think you know what fascism is. Retard.

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@Jiveturkey0001
18 days ago
You keep using that word…I do not think it means what you think it means.

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DdraigDewi
17 days ago
Explain it to me since the other guy took the pussy way out to block me from replying

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The Pork Report
17 days ago
Fascists are anti-communists, which means we are nationalist, anti-globalist, and anti-jew (the ones who are pushing globalism, open borders, and mass immigration on the West; look up the Gates of Toledo, and look up HIAS the jewish org that helps illegals and whose motto is “Open the Gates”).

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lopper
13 days ago
“they haven’t left those shit holes to escape from them, they left them to conquer other nations.”
Who said the fascists weren’t intelligent

@chris
18 days ago
No Thumbs down on Collet. I wonder why?

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@chris
18 days ago
Maybe we get another NJP jew grift soon?

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@ИванКожедуб
18 days ago
Removing the ability to splat videos is sus.

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@Gundobar
9 days ago
Karma strikes again

@EricDrave
12 days ago
Some will virtue signal themselves into a living hell.

lopper
13 days ago
Rwanda is 98% Christian, muppets

HydraulicHydra
14 days ago
LMAO that dude at
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@Aposematism
15 days ago
Total boomer death as soon as possible. The tv consuming fools are not capable of comprehending how much they destroy.

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WhiteLightWhiteHeat
15 days ago
It’s more of the silent generation than the boomers. The silent generation are the real virtue signal errors. The boomers got all the brainwashing and acted accordingly. They were babies after the end of World War II.

my garden birds
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So, anyway, point is, unfortunately, no Blair this week, which sucks, but we’ve got Tom. So it’s the Joel and Tom show. And we are going to change the name. I’ve made progress on the new name, but we’re going to make graphics. I Whittled it down to two choices and we’ll see. I’ll see how the graphics come up. We’ll make a decision on what name we want to go forward with. But for now, it’s the Joel and Tom show.

 

As I said, it’s the 19 July 2024 and a lot to talk about.

 

Been a big week, particularly in American politics. It’s going to be a lot of American politics, I think, in this show, but also some things happening at home, including Blair himself attempting to get onto YouTube with some normie friendly content and getting swiftly censored. The NSN boys were out in force, destroyed. Pedo freaks rally down in Adelaide. We can analyze that a little bit. So lots of to cover. Immigration, news, and so on.

 

But first of all, Tom, I want to get your take on., … Do you think that the assassination attempt on Trump was set up? Do you think he was set up like he was? Some elite actors, some powerful actors, conspired to have him taken out and basically they got unlucky. It didn’t materialise.

 

Or do you think it was just some random libtard and just mass incompetence from the Secret Service because there’s obviously a lot going for both narratives, but there’s a lot of, I don’t know how close you’ve been following the story, but there’s a lot of very strange aspects to the story that make me lean towards the setup theory. But where do you stand?

 

 

Thomas Sewell: I believe that it was a setup. I think that the Secret Service was under orders to allow it to happen.

 

The idea that it could be just a mere fluke that they would, … Like a lot of the libtards are pretending that this was a setup from another angle. They’re pretending it’s like a was set up to be fake as opposed to set up to be real. I think it was set up to be real. But I think it’s a combination of everything you said. I think it’s a combination of one part incompetence, one part dysgenic freak libtard who also happened to be in a Blackrock promotion video or advertising video for a school or something.

 

So that’s odd. That shows that the person is somewhat, even if it’s three steps removed, they’re politically connected somehow. Yeah. There’s just a combination of factors.

 

And so I think that there was a serious attempt on his life. I don’t think it’s a, … I don’t think there was an effort to try to not kill him. You know what I mean? I think that his head turn at the last minute is what saves his life. So I do think that’s sincere.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: I mean, and there’s a lot of, … Sorry, before I pass it back. The last thing I’ll say on it, because I’m sure you’ve got a lot to say on it, is there’s so many people on the Internet talking about the ballistics and talking about how could you miss from that distance? And everyone’s all of a sudden a marksmanship expert whenever there’s like, a shooting.

 

And, yeah, it, to me, it undermines every other incident that’s ever happened in my mind when you get, just dozens of people in the group chats and on Twitter, you know, talk, trying to break down how impossible it is to miss at that distance. And I don’t think any of these people have any sort of realistic training. The amount of stress this guy would have been under to only miss by, like, a couple inches from a really unstable position. I believe he had iron sights as well.

 

I mean, that’s actually quite a hard shot to make, even if, you know how to use it, considering the stress. He got to be within a couple inches. And that’s even for trained soldiers, that’s actually quite hard to get that first hit at that distance.

 

So, yeah, that’s frustrating!

 

Joel Davis: And if he didn’t turn his head, like, it would have hit. So he came pretty close.

 

Thomas Sewell: Absolutely! Yeah, yeah. The shooter was basically on the mark.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean, he did fire off more shots, but., …

 

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Thomas Sewell: Yeah, but they don’t count. Yeah. Because after that first shot, it throws everything out. He’s not in a stable firing position.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And he knows that he’s just about to die as well.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, exactly! The adrenaline would have been crazy! Like, the secret to marksmanship is, … Well, there’s many basic principles, but one of them is to stay calm, to just be calm and breathe. It’s a form of meditation.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And you can’t do that in that scenario, as some, like, 20 year old, untrained or barely trained young guy. It’s not possible. Yeah, I think it’s sincere. That’s just the short answer.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. But the setup theory isn’t that the guy wasn’t a sincere libtard. That’s obviously true.

 

But the idea is that he’s a patsy, that he was groomed, perhaps, and that then there was a conspiracy to basically undermine the Secret Service from effectively protecting Trump to enable him to get in position and take the shot.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, absolutely!

 

Joel Davis: And there’s a few weird, … Because they could say:

 

“Well there’s this woman running the Secret Service who’s incompetent. Look at all these incompetent women running around!”

 

You know, we’ve seen the images. There was that one woman who doesn’t seem to know how to put her gun back in her holster. It was quite comical.

 

But that’s almost like part of the setup. Like, if you were going to do a setup, you would put a bunch of incompetent women all around it to make it look like incompetence. Like that would be part of doing a good setup. And, it’s not like the Secret Service have a track record of incompetence. They’re pretty competent.

 

There were people that were interviewed who said:

 

“Oh, I’ve been to heaps of Trump rallies over the year. And I remember when I got to this one, it was quite strange, because I was looking around at all the roofs and there was only like two snipers up there.”

 

But he’s like:

 

“Every other Trump rally I’ve ever been to, it’s just covered in snipers! And it’s just covered in personnel. They seemed way understaffed!”

 

And that building, it was a very obvious building. Like, they had people like experts from military intelligence and so on, even on like Left-wing media like CNN that got interviewed. And they were like:

 

“I think it was a setup because of the sheer incompetence is almost too high for it to be believable because it’s such an obvious position.”

 

They said:

 

“Like, if you identify that position almost immediately as one of the main positions that you have to secure, and you would immediately put personnel on the building.”

 

But the fact that they didn’t put any personnel on that building, he says, it’s just insane! Like, there’s no way that you could have that kind of oversight. When they interviewed the head of the Secret Service, I can’t remember her name. And I don’t know why a woman is running the Secret Service. It’s quite crazy! And why she hasn’t stepped down yet and why she hasn’t been fired! [chuckling] I mean, that’s even more crazy, after what happened.

 

Thomas Sewell: And criminally investigated.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, I’m sure there’ll be an investigation, particularly considering that Trump is going to win, almost definitely! So if there isn’t one now, there’ll be one when he gets in, surely.

 

But she said on the news when she was grilled about it that:

 

“Oh, well, the roof was sloped, so we didn’t want to put someone up there.”

 

I mean, [chuckling] it’s the most ridiculous excuse I’ve ever heard!

 

First of all, there was a bunch of other sloped roofs of people on top of people walk on sloped roofs all the time. You work on roofs for a job. You know, [chuckling] people can walk on roofs!

 

Thomas Sewell: I can’t confirm. I know a thing about sloped roofs.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. But also what’s ridiculous is, well, even if that was the case, which is ridiculous, but even if that was the case, you could put someone on the ground around the building. The fact they didn’t even do that, … And there’s obviously all the video footage that we’ve seen of people who are around the building that were, like, pointing it out to law enforcement, apparently.

 

Also, apparently this guy came in hours before Trump got on stage and he had a sight [rifle sight] and he was walking around and, basically using the sight to check out all the sniper positions. And the snipers were like:

 

“Hey, there’s some guy down there with a sight, and he’s looking straight at us. Maybe we should go and look at that guy.”

 

And apparently he got stopped, and they’re like:

 

“Oh, he doesn’t have a gun on him. He just has a sight for some reason.”

 

And so they just let him go, which is insane!

 

And then he pops up on the roof. People are notifying law enforcement minutes before he takes the shot. Apparently a cop climbed up there, and he pointed the rifle at him, and he climbed back down. How was there no communications from anyone to say “get the guy off stage”?

 

So the fact that there was no reaction.

 

And then also there was two sniper positions. One was obstructed by a tree, but the other sniper position wasn’t obstructed by a tree, because as soon as a few shots go off, immediately that sniper pops the shooter.

 

So obviously he had a sight on the shooter, so that means., … And he was kind of basically pointing in his direction. You can see in the image before the shots went off. So why didn’t he take the shot earlier? You know, there’s just too many factors for me to just believe that it was just massive incompetence.

 

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Thomas Sewell: I heard one theory that I disagree with, that the sniper on the left was aiming at him, but was possibly uncertain as to whether he had a rifle or not. And obviously was just keeping an eye on this person randomly crawling on the roof. And maybe they thought it was just a teenager just crawling up there for a better view.

 

And then they would have, like a:

 

“Oh, you know, until you can confirm it’s a rifle, to just shoot people randomly at Trump crowds.”

 

That’s bullshit! That’s nonsense! And the two reasons why that’s nonsense is the scope on that rifle that that sniper had was like a six to 20. Like, you would see it clear as day, like it was in the room with you. You’d be able to see the fact that he was armed. You wouldn’t be, like, unsure, like:

 

“Oh, that’s 100 meters away!”

 

It would look like the person was a meter in front of you. Those scopes are that Zoomed in, or have the capacity to zoom in that much. So there’s no way he would have, like, uncertainty as to whether the person had a rifle or not.

 

And secondly, they’re all on comms [communications]. They’re all on comms! They’re all on radio. So the fact that there were police notified that there was a shooter on the roof.

 

I mean, there’s just too much evidence, there’s too many witness statements of people going to the police saying:

 

“Hey, look, there’s a guy with a gun on the roof!”

 

In the two to three minutes before the shooting started. And the idea that that wouldn’t echo through the comms like, yeah, is just absolutely ridiculous! It’s beyond incompetence!

 

So, yeah, I think it was a genuine assassination attempt. I think this libtard was a sincere libtard. Like, I think he was a spiteful mutant freak. Is he potentially got more connections and was potentially groomed by the intelligence services or the Deep State? I think the strongest evidence that there’s something going on behind the scenes and it’s not just a disgruntled libtard, that it is an organised assassination attempt, is the shorting of the stocks.

 

The fact that that Austin private equity group shorted something, like, I think they tried to short $370 million worth of stock. Or that’s the profit they would have made, …

 

Joel Davis: Of course, they said it was a “clerical error”. They said:

 

“Oh, we accidentally put 10,000 X on the option.”

 

And that’s quite convenient once the bullet misses and everyone’s like:

 

“Hey, what’s going on with this?”

 

So, I mean, I guess it is possible in theory that it could have been an accident, but it’s a very unlucky accident then, because it’s incredibly suspicious!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Everyone’s kind of saying, I don’t normally reply to the chat, unless you guys do your Superchats, but there’s a lot of people in the chat saying that it was “obviously a hoax”. And even the guys that I was at work with today were saying:

 

“Oh, you don’t think it was a blood pact, like it seems too WWE.”

 

And then you started the show with the Hulk Hogan thing, which is funny because it’s like they do the blood packs and the WWE. America is obviously one big giant, you know, reality TV show. And it is a political circus. But is it possible for it to all be a complete hoax? Yeah, absolutely! Just like every other shooting and mass shooting that Alex Jones got in trouble talking about.

 

I remember seeing all the YouTube videos breaking that down. There were people that said that they, that thing that happened in New Zealand was a hoax and that it was CGI. And there’s all these other reasons why they think it was a hoax. There’s no bullet holes, and why did the magazine get on the floor?

 

You know, I do agree that there’s a lot of around Port Arthur, there’s a lot of bullshit, and that that probably was like Mossad, or a setup.

 

But in this case, we’ve got so many cameras, so much footage. It’s not 1996. It’s like a Trump rally. And that bullet, those bullets flew through the crowd and hit people and killed a fire-fighter. Jesus sees.

 

Joel Davis: The image where you can see the, it’s not the bullet, but it’s whatever they call, like the wake behind the bullet.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, yeah. Like the gases or something. Yeah, like the, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, like the air displacement.

 

But also, what also doesn’t make sense is the motive. Like, Trump was already up in the polls like, two days before the assassination attempt. News was breaking in America that all these big jewish donors were pulling out from Biden, putting pressure on Biden to step down. And that pressure’s only increased with conflicting reports coming out today about:

 

“Biden’s going to step down!”

 

And people from Biden’s team saying:

 

“No, he isn’t! This is bullshit!”

 

And people are trying to move against him in the Democrat party to make him step down.

 

So the Democrat party are a total mess. And Trump did what? Like the debate, he didn’t necessarily do too well in the debate with Biden, but Biden was horrible! We covered it on the show saying:

 

“Well, it looks like Trump.”

 

We’ve been saying it for weeks:

 

“Looks like Trump’s going to win!”

 

He seems he’s way ahead in all the swing states and all the polling in the swing states. He’s got all the momentum. Biden’s a spent force. All these, all these people are coalescing behind Trump. Elon Musk has officially endorsed Trump and a lot of other big donors, jewish donors coming behind Trump. Israel seems to want Trump, or at least a large portion of the Israel lobby wants Trump. So it does seem like there’s a lot of elite support behind him and coalescence behind him in general.

 

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So why would you need to stage an assassination attempt in order to., … It was a desperate situation where they needed to flip the election or change perception or anything. I don’t think this will actually have too much of an effect on the polls. I don’t think there’s a lot of people that were previously going to vote Biden that were like:

 

“Oh, well, they almost shot Trump. Now I’m going to completely switch my political allegiance!”

 

It’s not one of those. It’s one of those things that galvanises your own supporters, but they were going to vote for you anyway. So to me, it doesn’t really make any sense.

 

Like the Port Arthur thing, that shooting enabled laws to be passed that completely changed gun law, like completely disarmed Australians, or the Sandy Hook thing or whatever. I don’t know too much about the Sandy Hook shooting, but if you were going to say that was staged, well, you can see a motive. There was momentum at the time in America to do assault rifle bans and so on, and there was a lot of tension between the gun rights people and the Left. So that was under Obama, right? Obama kind of was going after the guns.

 

So you can kind of see there being a political purpose to those shootings. And it’s not like assassination attempts are rare in American political history. There was an assassination attempt on Reagan. There was an assassination attempt on Nixon. There was obviously a successful assassination of JFK.

 

Thomas Sewell: And his brother, …

 

Joel Davis: Then you got McKinley going back in history, Abraham Lincoln. Like, multiple US presidents have been assassinated in history.

 

So the idea that they would do an assassination attempt, it’s not exactly this outlandish, far fetched thing is actually par for the course in American politics. So it’s not like Trump doesn’t have anyone that hates him or anyone powerful that’s against him. You could say:

 

“Yeah, he’s gotten a decent portion of the elite on his side in comparison to 2016 when he first ran.”

 

But there’s still obviously a lot of powerful actors that don’t like him. And it’s almost a desperate situation where it makes more sense that you would take him out because he seemed like he was inevitable to win the election, even more so now, I guess. But it seemed inevitable. Biden was a total mess. There’s no obvious replacement. He’s already the nominee, or the presumptive nominee for the Democrats have already had their primary.

 

So it’s a real mess to try and replace Biden with anyone else. And they can’t just sub in Kamala Harris because she polls even worse than Biden.

 

So they’re going to have to bring someone from left field, convince him to step down. It’s then they’re going to have to do this shoehorn campaign the last four months. You know, it just seems impossible for them to really beat Trump.

 

So the idea of:

 

“Fuck, we’ve got to take him out because we can’t beat him and he’s going to become president.”

 

That actually is more plausible. You know, people could say:

 

“Well the system seems to have suffered on Trump. He’s beaten a lot of these legal cases. The Supreme Court ruled in his favour. All these jewish donors flipped, supporting him and so on.”

 

And that’s all true. But just because certain portions of the elite flip, there could be disgruntled elites that are really upset about that, where maybe they’re upset that he’s going to pull out, he’s going to end the war in Ukraine.

 

There was a theory that Fuentes put forward that:

 

“Oh, well, the jews, like Israel, are trying to take him out, because then he’d be replaced by Nikki Haley or DeSantis or something.”

 

And they’d be even more pro-Israel than Trump now that Biden is falling apart they don’t need Trump to beat Biden and they’re getting Biden out. Maybe they think they could take Trump out and Biden out and then put two more Zionist shills in place, both of them, or something.

 

And I didn’t really buy that. It was an interesting theory. I don’t really buy that. I think it’s a bit too convoluted. It seems like Trump has really got Israel behind him. So I don’t think they would take him out.

 

But, no, it’s kind of hard to establish exactly who would have done it, but we know that someone could have done it. It is interesting to speculate, but there’s no real obvious theory for who set him up or who, if it was a setup. But it does look. Fuck! It does look like a setup! Like, it looks real. It looks really implausible that it’s just a kind of, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Whatever it is, the Secret Service in on it, 100%. Whoever’s behind it, the Secret Service, are working with them closely. Because they did not provide adequate security, like, beyond incompetence! Very nefarious.

 

But, yeah. Is there anything else you want to cover on that subject? It’s definitely been a talking point for most people during the week.

 

Basically every normie that I crossed paths with, you know, every family member, just. Everyone was just talking to me about the Trump assassination:

 

“Oh, did you hear what happened?”

 

Like, of course.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah. I mean, it was quite interesting, I think. What made it interesting as well was the kind of sense of the almost, like, mystical fate, you could read into it that:

 

“Oh, like, he’s basically supposed to be dead, but there was, like some superhuman force that intervened.”

 

I mean, he himself was saying that.

 

Of course he would say that. And I’ve speculated as to, like, what that could be because I am a bit of a mystic in how I see the world. I know you are as well. I’m not like, a pure rationalist. I do believe in God. I do believe in supernatural forces. But it isn’t so much that I think:

 

“Oh, Trump is a great guy!”

 

And obviously, I accept, like, he’s kind of bought out by Zionist interests. He’s really just a conservative. Okay. He’s a maybe a more bombastic! He’s got, like, kind of machismo energy and so on. He’s a polarizing figure. Differentiates himself with his popular style and charisma from other conservative politicians. But his policies, they aren’t particularly radical, let’s say.

 

And so I don’t see it as so much like his political agenda, getting into power is destined by God, but more almost that he’s supposed to get in power perhaps for some alternative reason, that some crisis is on the horizon. We’ve talked about in the show before. The potential for war with China. There’s also the potential for war in the Middle East. Obviously, Israel is talking about or giving off signs that it’s going to go to war with Hezbollah in Lebanon. Could that end up going beyond that and drag Iran in? There could be a lot of political pressure in the United States to go at Iran, particularly with a Trump-Vance administration and a Republican Congress and Senate, which looks like what we’re going to get. And they’re all owned by AIPAC [American Israel Public Affairs Committee], except for one guy, basically.

 

Thomas Sewell: These leads out of the Trump assassination. I thought it was very strange, very suspicious. And I’m sure this has been mentioned before that within, what, one day, within two days of being subject to an attempted assassination, he picks a VP, that was, … I’d honestly never, oh, I think I’ve heard of him once, but he honestly wasn’t on my radar as a VP pick.

 

And one of the first observations that I saw on Twitter was people saying:

 

“Of the top five potential VP picks, they were all Indian or Indian adjacent.”

 

And there was a list. Vance, who’s married to an Indian, and a whole bunch of other, you know, part Indian or full Indians that are sort of big.

 

Joel Davis: Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy.

 

Thomas Sewell: Vivek. Yeah. There was a couple others on there that I noticed and recognised their names.

 

Joel Davis: One of them was Tim Scott, who’s black.

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, really? Okay. I didn’t see that one on the list, but, okay. The majority of the list of the VP picks were Indian or Indian adjacent.

 

And I was saying recently to the guys that this is just basic geopolitics, this is basic strategy. This is thousands of years old, if you consider what comes next.

 

And I think this adds more weight, more credence to the fact that we’re going to be going to war with China, Iran and Russia. And that they’re trying to get India on side.

 

And that’s why our countries have been flooded for the last twelve months with Indians, obviously for the last decade. But really, especially in the last twelve to 24 months, Canada, the United States and Australia have been completely flooded with Indians.

 

And then we see who are the vice president picks. Well, it’s not a traditional marriage in that sense. But thousands of years ago, if you were going to go to war with one tribe and you needed to make an ally really quickly, you would marry one of your sons or one of your daughters to that ally tribe to confirm the alliance. And obviously, Trump’s already done that. He’s married all his children to jews, except Barron.

 

And obviously Biden’s done that. He’s married all his children to jews.

 

But in the absence of marrying your children to the “greatest ally” or their masters, I should say, certainly picking a VP that has an Indian background or is Indian adjacent is going to help secure a geopolitical alliance with Indians in general. Because it’s like:

 

“Well, you’re on the boat, you know what I mean?”

 

Well, not the deportation boat, but “you’re in the camp”, so to speak.

 

It’s like we’re intertwining the blood. Which is the ultimate, …

 

Joel Davis: What we saw, what we saw from Trump the other day as well. There was a clip, he went on a podcast that was, apparently, it was set up by Vance, by the way, that appearance where a few weeks ago, where he went on and said:

 

“Oh, you know, yeah, we can’t have illegal immigration, but we want people to come legally. And like all these people that are coming to America and going to our universities, we’ve got to staple green cards onto the diplomas. We’ve got to get the high quality, university educated immigrants rather than these illegal immigrants. We’re going to deport the illegal immigrants.”

 

And so what I said was:

 

“Well, you’re just trying to swap out the Mexicans for pajeets!”

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, exactly. Exactly!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

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Thomas Sewell: And this is part of a broader geopolitical strategy for US foreign policy and western foreign policy, that we’re going to start allying ourselves further and further with India in order to break up BRICs. In order to get India out of that Russia, China, Iran sort of relationship.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. India is the easiest one to peel away because India has hostility with Pakistan, who are obviously allied with a lot of the other Islamic States and hate Israel. India’s got a good relationship with Israel. India also has a massive geopolitically with China and a historical relationship to the Anglos.

 

Obviously, we colonised them. They all speak English, … So yeah, they’re the obvious easiest pick.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Well, that’s another thing. If we go to war with Iran and the Middle East again, it potentially, like, Pakistan was not., … Although on paper, Pakistan was an ally in our war against Iraq and Afghanistan, they weren’t! And anyone within the state knows that they weren’t actually an ally. They were a puppet government in place, but they were actively undermining the effort. And they were helping the Afghanis, they’re helping the Taliban.

 

And I think they were hiding Osama as well, if you want to believe that Osama was still alive or is dead or whatever your theory is. I mean, obviously, everyone’s got a different take on that, but who cares?

 

What’s important is that if we go to war with the Middle East again, in general, we go to war with Iran, it has a strong chance of dragging the rest of them in. And that could drag in Pakistan. And obviously, India, as you said before, India and Pakistan arena a very long feud, and they’re like arch nemesis of each other.

 

Joel Davis: So Pakistan is also allied with China. Very well allied with China now.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Because they got the “One Belt One Road”* through Pakistan and Afghanistan now. Yeah. So it’s all coming to fruition. Putin talks about a multipolar world, and obviously, that’s one of the most common talking points now.

 

[* OBOR is a Chinese project that aims to improve connectivity and co-operation among 78 countries in Asia, Africa, and Europe. It involves building roads, railways, ports, pipelines, and other infrastructure projects to boost China’s domestic growth and economic diplomacy.]

 

But it’s not looking like there’s going to be too many polls. It’s kind of like a new, it’s just like a dual polar world that just hasn’t quite formed yet, but is in the process where we’re looking at a new Cold War, and we’ve got a new set of allies.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course. And it’s pretty much the same boundaries as the first Cold War, except we have more of Europe on our side now, geographically.

 

Thomas Sewell: The third world is more developed now.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: And they’re more able to mobilise.

 

Joel Davis: China is more dominant. Russia is the junior partner, whereas it was the opposite way around, obviously, in the original Cold War. That’s definitely a factor.

 

So the JD Vance pick wasn’t a surprise to me, actually, credit to Nick Fuentes. He said on a podcast months ago, he’s like:

 

“JD Vance will be the pick. I heard it on good authority.”

 

So that proves that Nick obviously has [chuckling] a little bit of inside baseball. He called it like, months ago, and he’s been really pushing hard against it and pre-emptively criticising it because he views Vance as basically a, …

 

Thomas Sewell: He’s very Zionist, isn’t he?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. As an extension of the Yoram Hazony led National Conservatism clique. Yoram Hazony* is a jew, an Israeli citizen, although I think he might have, I don’t know if he was born in Israel or America, but I think he went to university in America, but he’s an Israeli citizen. And National Conservatism was kind of astroturfed into existence after Trump got elected as an attempt by, … And also, they’re very well connected, I should say, in Europe. The National Conservatism conferences in Europe, all the big kind of populist Right parties and their leadership from a lot of these European countries like people like Giorgia Meloni from Italy and so on.

 

[* Yoram Hazony is an Israeli-American philosopher, Bible scholar, and political theorist. He is president of the Herzl Institute in Jerusalem and serves as the chairman of the Edmund Burke Foundation and president of the Herzl Institute. His 2018 book, The Virtue of Nationalism, established Hazony as one of the leading proponents of a new kind of “national conservatism.”]

 

They speak at their conferences and they’ll talk about immigration. They won’t necessarily talk about it in terms of race, though. They talk about in terms of “culture” and in terms of “history” and just ways in which you can define a nation anyway but through ethnic terms. Although in Europe, they are a little bit more ethno-nationalist in their rhetoric, but in America, not so much.

 

And Hazony, actually, I flicked through one of his books, and Hazony kind of defines America and Europe differently. He’s almost willing to concede a little bit of ethnic nationalism to the European countries, but denies it to the United States. Which makes sense from a jewish perspective. Because the jews don’t necessarily need to be included in Dutch or French nationalism in the same way they need to be included within American nationalism, because America is the power centre. That’s the hotbed of jewish power. That’s where the majority of the jews are. That’s where all the key decisions get made. And so defining America as:

 

“Yes, yes, we care about defending European cultures and so on, but America, America’s different. America’s a nation about freedom and Christianity and so on! And it’s a multiracial country and always was because the blacks were there, et cetera.”

 

And that gives the jews more security, have been included within the identity of the state. Right?

 

So anyway, he has been very much promoted. And then he is connected to Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel is from what they call the “PayPal Mafia”, which also includes Elon Musk, the initial investors in PayPal. Peter Thiel is a massive billionaire, very influential in American Right-wing politics. He actually funded JD Vance into the Senate, so he funded his political career into existence. JD Vance was a venture capitalist originally. And Peter Thiel owns Palantir. And Palantir is the number one software contractor to the US Department of Defense.

 

So he’s very much plugged into the American military industrial complex. He was also one of the first investors in Facebook.

 

Now Facebook, if you look at the history of Facebook in the 1990s, there was a project by DARPA, which is an extension of the American military, like a kind of research and development wing of the US military. They basically developed Facebook in the late nineties and the early two thousands.

 

And then when they closed down the programme that developed a Facebook like product, immediately, the next day, Facebook goes public and, like, it’s launched. And it’s the exact same day. So it’s quite obvious that they basically develop Facebook.

 

And you can see why the American government want to develop Facebook, because it’s a way of, well, rather than having to spy on everyone, you can just create Facebook and they’ll just give you all their information for free, right? And they’ll have fun doing it.

 

So anyway, obviously, Mark Zuckerberg was brought in to head that up. But Peter Thiel was tapped on the shoulder and said:

 

“Hey, you might want to throw some money in this.”

 

That’s kind of how it works with these DARPA projects. They created Google as well. They’ll create a lot of these big tech companies. They’ll basically create all the primary infrastructure. And then they’ll go and bring in some jewish investors and say, or other elite investors that are connected to their networks and say:

 

“Throw your money in here!”

 

And then they become billionaires. And obviously, the jews who run Google, that happened.

 

Now, Peter Thiel not only became a billionaire, he’s a member of the steering committee of the Bilderberg group. This guy is fucking connected! You know what I mean? And Peter Thiel, actually, his career started. He said:

 

“Oh, I went to Stanford. I left Stanford.”

 

He went and worked for a law firm in New York. I can’t remember the name of the law firm. I apologise. But that law firm is a well known CIA front group. And then he worked there for like, six months. And he’s like:

 

“Oh, I didn’t really work out being a lawyer, so I decided to move back to California and become a venture capitalist. And then I made a couple of investments. And I just was one of the first people ever to invest in PayPal and Facebook.”

 

“And then they just blew up and became like billion dollar companies. And now I’m a billionaire. And now I run Palantir, the number one software contractor to the US Department of Defense. And now I’m funding vice presidents into existence and I’m on the steering committee of Bilderberg!”

 

That doesn’t happen by accident. People don’t go from just being a nobody to becoming someone like that. And he’s obviously well connected with Elon Musk.

 

And apparently news reports came out that Elon Musk, because he just donated like $50 million to the Trump campaign and officially endorsed Trump. And it kind of seemed like:

 

“Oh, he’s just reacting to the Trump assassination attempt.”

 

But no, it came out that it was conditional on, yes, Vance getting picked.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I heard that after the fact, that Musk was big on JD Vance. And it looks like Trump has gone from draining the swamp to ingratiating the swamp. You know, the swamp is right there as his right hand man.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but what’s interesting about Thiel, because you can watch a lot of his lectures on YouTube because he fans as himself as a bit of an intellectual. He was a very close associate of Mencius Moldbug, also known as Curtis Yarvin*, who’s a big jewish political blogger. And he goes on all these podcasts and so on.

 

[* Curtis Guy Yarvin (born 1973), also known by the pen name Mencius Moldbug, is a jewish-American blogger. He is known, along with philosopher Nick Land, for founding the anti-egalitarian and anti-democratic philosophical movement known as the Dark Enlightenment or Neo-reactionary movement.]

 

He actually went on Tucker Carlson show. He invented so-called “Neo-reaction”. And he’s quite popular in kind of like nerdy, esoteric Right-wing theory cell circles. So I’ve been aware of him for a long time because that’s kind of my forte. But he is a very close associate, he’s kind of the court jew of Peter Thiel.

 

So that’s quite interesting. And Peter Thiel, if you look at his statements, he had this one lecture that I remember watching where he said:

 

“During the Cold War, 1950s and the 1960s in particular, when there was this threat of global nuclear annihilation and World War III.”

 

He said:

 

“That was when you have the fastest development in the American tech sector, where they’re creating the space programme and they’re inventing computers and computing technology, and all this incredible technology is coming out of the United States.”

 

He said:

 

“Why is that?”

 

He’s like:

 

“Well, because we’re at war and were competing technologically with another superpower. The existential imperative on all of America’s best and brightest was not just, ‘oh, I want to create new technology because that’s my job or because I want to make money’. It was, ‘we have to create the technology before the Russians do so that we can stay ahead’ because it’s, like, existentially necessary to protect the free world from collapse, falling to communism.”

 

“We have to prove that liberal democracy and the West is the best!”

 

And he said:

 

“Then once the Cold War Peters out, then you get stagnation in American society.”

 

And he says:

 

“With war with China on the horizon, and maybe that can change. Maybe the tech sector can be re energized by structural competition against China, kind of existential competition.”

 

So he’s been talking about the threat of China war with China for a very long time. So that kind of plays into the whole idea that the US tech sector that’s connected to the Military-Industrial Complex*, they are very much anti-China.

 

[* The expression Military–Industrial Complex (MIC) describes the relationship between a country’s military and the defense industry that supplies it, seen together as a vested interest which influences public policy. A driving factor behind the relationship between the military and the defense-minded corporations is that both sides benefit—one side from obtaining weapons, and the other from being paid to supply them. Wikipedia]

 

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And you can see, like Tucker Carlson, who associates with that clique and has interviewed a lot of people from that clique. He’s a China hawk, but then he’s against war with Russia and Ukraine. He criticises the Ukraine war, but also says:

 

“We should be focusing on China!”

 

All the time. And there’s other elements of the US defense establishment, foreign policy establishment that are aligned with the Right or this clique on the Right that are saying the same thing.

 

So the whole pushing of the pro-Putin, pro-Russia thing on the Right, that’s part of it’s more like:

 

“Well, we can’t be committed here and in China at the same time. We should be redirecting our forces to Taiwan, pulling out for that reason.”

 

So there’s, I think, a complex kind of almost, like, struggle within American elites. There’s, like, these legacy American elites that are committed to, like, NATO and are committed to, … And they’re more on the left. They’re committed to the project of global liberal democracy:

 

“Everywhere must become a liberal democracy. We must extend liberalism into Russia!”

 

And so on.

 

And then you’ve got this more realist tech elite that has aligned itself with Trump and the Right, that also is aligned with the Zionists who say:

 

“Well, protect Israel. But other than that, really everything should be focused on China.”

 

And even some of them might even be saying:

 

“We don’t even want to even get too involved in the Middle East to protect Israel. We’ll do the bare minimum to keep Israel happy. But China’s really the big threat.”

 

So that all, I think, fits together into what Vance represents, I think, as a pick, which is, yeah, China, Hawking, basically.

 

Thomas Sewell: Mmm. Very interesting stuff. Entering a new Cold War, perhaps. You know, it might not go hot, but we’re definitely gearing up for war with China. And if it doesn’t go hot soon, China will plan to just wait us out. Because they believe that our society, I think from the top down, I’m talking about China here. China believes from the top down that our society is just on the brink of collapse.

 

And I guess it is on the brink of civil war, and we are collapsing. And I guess their main theory is just to just slowly, creepily, encroach on the borders. And obviously, they’ve got some pretty interesting, you know, Rubicons or whatever to cross, like Taiwan, or Taiwan Strait, for that matter.

 

But also there’s smaller ones. And if I recall in the cold War, the first Cold War with Russia, although we never directly went to war with Russia, we went, or the Soviet Union, we went to war in a lot of places which were contested ground.

 

So perhaps the next 30 or 40 years, we could be seeing maybe not outright war with China and with Taiwan, but we see a lot of smaller wars that might not be beneficial to us, but would be in places like Fiji. I know that the Chinese are trying to expand into the islands way south of their region of control. And they’re pushing their influence around in Micronesia and in, …

 

Joel Davis: The Solomon islands.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah the Solomon Islands and stuff, not just Micronesia in general, just all those islands.

 

And obviously in Africa, we could see some serious conflicts in Africa. I’m not so sure about South America. I don’t know how much influence the Chinese really have over there, but certainly that’s another player.

 

Joel Davis: Brazil seems contested ground.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Okay. Well, that’s a good point, because it’s politically very unstable, because you’ve basically got a 21st century version of the kind of Spanish or Argentinian dichotomy. And obviously, there’s always been strong national fascist roots in South America, but also very strong communist roots in South America, obviously stemming from the two major different populations, the Amerindians and the either Portuguese or Spanish.

 

And obviously in Brazil, you’ve also got huge Italian and German populations there as well, that primarily or almost entirely vote for Bolsonaro.

 

But, yeah, you’ve got some pretty radical communist politics and proto-fascist, or not proto-fascist, but neo-Fascist politics emerging out of the conservative scenes everywhere, all over the world. So as we’ve all theorized before, all politics, all liberal democracies, is really caught between a rock and a hard place, and that’s fascism and communism, or National Socialism and communism. If it’s an ethno-state or attempting to be an ethno-state.

 

So, yeah, the fire rises!

 

Joel Davis: And during the Cold War, the United States was a lot more, was willing to bend its rules with its allies. You know, it was allied with what a lot of people consider to be a fascist regime in Spain, in France and Spain. And that didn’t really become Democratised fully until, like the eighties. Portugal, Salazars, Portugal, similar story. There was basically a fascist coup backed by the Americans in Chile in the 1970s. South Korea was effectively a fascist state for the first half of the Cold War.

 

And ultimately, as they won, and particularly after they won, they were able to enforce liberal democracy on all of their allies.

 

But while they were still fighting communism, they had to kind of bend the rules a little bit. And there was a lot of rationalisation. Like Hannah Arendt, who was a jewish political philosopher, she made the argument:

 

“Well, there’s totalitarianism and authoritarianism. And authoritarianism is bad, but it’s not as bad as totalitarianism, which is like the Nazis or the Soviet Union. So if we have to ally with authoritarian states against totalitarian states, that it’s ultimately the Liberal thing to do.”

 

So you could start to see these kinds of copes come in. And that’s what’s interesting about the Curtis Yarvin court jew. I mean, Peter Thiel seems to have a bit of jewish ancestry. He’s not like a pure jew, but he seems to have a bit of jewish ancestry from what I remember. He’s also a homosexual, by the way. A very strange individual.

 

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But Curtis Yarvin represents a way of criticising:

 

“Oh, maybe democracy actually kind of sucks and monarchy is better.”

 

But he doesn’t do it from the perspective of our perspective, where he’s talking about the volk or anything like that. He does it from just like:

 

“Oh, from the perspective of how do you make government run smoothly and how do you ensure freedom?”

 

So the idea is like well, usually a lot of the tech sector people like Elon Musk and so on, they were libertarians. Libertarianism and kind of tech bro ism have always been kind of associated.

 

But obviously, libertarianism is a totally kind of bankrupt ideology because it doesn’t have any real concept of how to wield power. It’s always just like:

 

“How do you, like, break down the state as much as possible?”

 

And obviously, that’s a totally failed mission, and it’s never really succeeded anywhere that has been tried. And what they came to realise was, well, you look at the work of someone like Hans Hermann Hopper, who was an anarcho-capitalist libertarian type, but who was also sympathetic to monarchism and argue that monarchy actually provides more freedom than democracy, because if you have a secure centralised power, it’s a different incentive structure.

 

So if you have a democracy, well, then you’re going to have more socialism, because then if you want to get the pleb votes, you’re going to have to basically offer to spend the government’s money on a whole series of social programs to win their votes and transfer wealth from the rich to the poor. And so democracy incentivises a larger and larger state, and grows the state, and intervenes a lot in the economy.

 

And so if you want to have a state that doesn’t do that as much, you would rather have more of a dictatorship. And you could see the kind of Chile under Pinochet was kind of like that. It was like this libertarian fascism combination. Dictatorship.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, this. How do you pronounce his name? Bukell. Buchel. BUELE.

 

Joel Davis: Bukele. In El Salvador.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, he’s like a little mini dictator. He’s doing really well. Yeah, yeah. In a good way.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. No, he seems to have done, yeah, he seems really cleaned up the country.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, he’s a straight up [word unclear]

 

Joel Davis: The guy who got elected president in Argentina, Millet. He’s like a libertarian, but at the same time, …

 

Thomas Sewell: He’s a libertarian clown. Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. But he’s also, like, willing to work with the global establishment, particularly. He’s aligned himself with the America and like, Elon Musk is over there meeting with him:

 

“How great is this guy?”

 

So it’s part of that same clique. Bolsonaro seems to have been supported by that clique, but he got defeated by Lula, I think his name is, who’s like a communist. And he’s allied with the Chinese and the Russians.

 

Thomas Sewell: He’s like Bernie Sanders on steroids, that guy.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, yeah. So you could see like this new kind of dichotomy and the kind of Atlanticist global liberalism elite represented by Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and so on, that seems to be falling by the wayside. And this new kind of Americana, Pax Americana, new Cold War ideology seems to be rising. And that’s kind of what Trumpism seems to represent now, like to kind of build into this larger theme about what this means for the world.

 

So that’s quite interesting because it seems like Australia is like, the slowest to react to all of these developments. We still have the old form of politics. We don’t have this, like, rising Right-wing populist movement. Yeah. Like, Albanese seems to be of the ilk of the Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden era.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: And that seems to be, I think that’ll gradually kind of melt away. I remember you talking about on this show when we first started doing it, you were talking about analyzing the Joe Rogan podcast because your mates at work would listen to Joe Rogan, and you were noticing Joe Rogan pivot where he was a little bit more Left leaning and he started going really hard against, quote, unquote, “wokeness” and kind of pivoting more to the Right-wing.

 

Thomas Sewell: He called it, the “new centre”. Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I think that basically is the cultural shift.

 

Thomas Sewell: Tech bro, libertarian mixed with., … Yeah, like, it’s aware of what’s going on in China. It’s anti-woke, but it’s pro, kind of degeneracy. It’s kind of this weird blend of yeah, … It’s like, let me smoke weed and shoot guns, but also, like, trannies are bad!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, trannies are bad. But who cares about gay marriage and abortion?

 

That’s what’s interesting as well. At this Republican National Convention that happened this week, it was basically gay marriage was put into the Republican Party platform officially. The Trumps have killed a lot of the anti-abortion momentum. And a lot of racists who aren’t Christians think that’s actually a good thing because abortion disproportionately basically culls the black population in the United States.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, it is natural law. No, it is natural selection.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but the reason why Trump wants to, … I don’t know if Trump is a crypto racist trying to cull the blacks., …

 

Thomas Sewell: Nah, I don’t think he’s coming from that angle.

 

Joel Davis: He’s looking at it electorally.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: It’s just unpopular. He knows that there’s a whole bunch of women that will come out to vote for their abortion rights, that if you don’t touch them, they might stay home or maybe they’ll vote for you.

 

And I think that he’s just looking at it like that.

 

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Thomas Sewell: It’s the Stacy vote. There’s like a Stacy form of feminism. There’s like pretty girl feminism, like, obviously there’s ugly girl feminism. And they’re like the dysgenic freaks and they’re all fat, retarded and shaved their heads and they want abortion so they can in theory, if they got pregnant, kill their children.

 

Whereas, Stacey feminism is like, there’s hot chicks want to degrade women around them so that they look more hot. So, like, they’re the ultimate, like, women haters.

 

And so all the, like, hot chicks, they’ll congratulate and they’ll like people’s pictures on Facebook or Instagram if they’ve done something stupid. And they’ll be like:

 

“Oh, your new haircut looks so great!”

 

And it’s like, Stacey bullying, feminism, nationalism. And, yeah, you see that a lot. You see that a lot in these kind of Red states where these women are, like, conservative. They’ve got three or four kids. They live in a nice home, but they’re pro-abortion.

 

And it’s like:

 

“But you never had an abortion. You had all your children.”

 

And it’s like:

 

“Yeah, but what about other women? They’ll want an abortion.”

 

It’s like:

 

“Yeah, you want other women to kill their kids! You just want your kids.”

 

It’s a very strange form of, when you think about it from a natural selection perspective, it’s like, they want the loser chicks to kill their genes so that only the Stacy’s have kids. And, yeah, you see that a lot.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. It’s also a big factor with the Latina vote, because the Latinas love their abortions, even though they’re all Catholics, because they’re also all [word unclear], and their baby daddies aren’t necessarily hanging around a lot of the time. So the Latina vote can really get mobilised through if Republicans touch abortions.

 

Otherwise, you know what’s interesting about America is that Latinos and Latinas, I think they’re almost, they’re more than double the black population, but they basically get the same amount of black votes as you get Hispanic votes, because a lot of them just aren’t that engaged with politics, which makes sense because they aren’t really a heritage population of the United States. So they don’t have the same ties to the United States and its political culture as blacks and Whites do. Blacks obviously have a racial grievance that really motivates them, particularly black women. Black women all vote. Black men are usually too lazy to vote. That’s kind of what also makes the whole Trump strategy of trying to appeal to the black male vote. It’s like, yeah, in opinion polls, a bunch of black guys will be like:

 

“Yeah, I like Trump!”

 

But then when it comes to election day and they have to get out of bed and, like, not start sipping on a 40, but actually get down to a polling booth and like pull a lever. It’s like:

 

“Oh, man! Like, I don’t, I forgot, it’s just I was eating, you know, sipping some syrup and eating some fried chicken and shit!”

 

And like:

 

“Oh, fuck! I mean, I guess I didn’t vote for Trump!”

 

So but whereas the black woman, Locquious, will be getting down there to vote for Joe Biden because Trump’s an evil, mean racist. Anyway, the point is, yeah. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: You can see it as well. You can see them like, it’s their form of yeah, … It’s like all social justice.

 

Joel Davis: But anyway, the I thought that was interesting, though, to notice that, yeah, Trump is going hard on., … I remember I actually saw Eric Trump, one of Trump’s sons, get interviewed and they were like:

 

“Eric, why is Trump, basically changing his stance on abortion and gay marriage?”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Well, wait a second! He actually never opposed gay marriage!”

 

Which is true. Trump was the first ever US president to run on supporting gay marriage. Or to be fair, I think Clinton also ran on supporting it, but Obama did only flipped to supporting it after he was re-elected a couple of years before the end of his second term. That’s obviously an indication of the larger cultural trends. Obviously, Obama’s actually a crypto faggot and so on. So I’m sure he always supported gay marriage in spirit, but just waited till it was politically expedient.

 

But the point remains that Trump was never opposed to gay marriage, but he was a little bit more pro-life in the first term.

 

And I think that was just trying to appeal to the Republicans. And then I think he made the adjustment based upon recent developments, like the Dobbs decision overturning Roe vs Wade. And there was a reaction by, as I said, the Latinas came out to vote Blue in the last midterms or whatever, and so he made the adjustment.

 

But the point is that Eric Trump was like:

 

“But we’ve got to focus on other issues like immigration.”

 

And that’s interesting. Like, they’ll put immigration front and centre and they’re letting a lot of the Christian, early Trump, 2016-20, like President Trump was a lot more explicitly Christian. He would reference Jesus Christ a lot. Today I watched his speech, or a significant portion of his speech, and he was talking about how God saved him and so on, but he didn’t mention Jesus Christ once. Which I found interesting. And the whole tone of the whole RNC, they had the Sikh woman doing some weird prayer.

 

Thomas Sewell: That was very strange.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And again, that is more for the Indian alliance. That was all to do with, that was like a Indian alliance ritual. Like:

 

“See, we’re doing it at our conventions!”

 

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Joel Davis: Why wouldn’t they do the Hindu thing? It’s almost like, that’s almost dumb from, even from that standpoint because like, there’s the whole Khalistan* issue and Sikh-Hindu tensions and so on.

 

[* The Khalistan movement is a separatist movement seeking to create a homeland for Sikhs by establishing an ethno‐religious sovereign state called Khalistan in the Punjab region.]

 

Thomas Sewell: I don’t know the exact demographics of the Indians that are in the United States. So maybe that’s relevant to that. Maybe there’s a higher percentage of Sikhs than Hindus or disproportionate.

 

Joel Davis: It probably is, because I think the Sikhs as a minority, I think they try to, …

 

Thomas Sewell: High income earners. Yeah, they’re high income earners as well.

 

Joel Davis: Like, there’s a decent amount of them that come here. Yeah, they seem to be disproportionate. Like, obviously, the majority of the Indians that come here are Hindus, but, yeah, more Sikhs than the percentage of the total Indian population do come here. And probably similar to America. I know that’s probably true for Canada as well.

 

But my point being, it was kind of like this:

 

“Perennialist Freemason, all religions are legitimate and they all worship the same God, and we respect all faiths as, whether you’re Muslim or Christian or Hindu or whatever, jewish, it’s all the same.”

 

You know, it had that tone. And I think that actually comports with how a lot of contemporary people think. The majority of Americans they’ll tick the Christian box, but they aren’t like hard, doctrinaire Christians because they’ll tick the Christian box, but also they want to have abortions and they’re pretty gay, and they have a bunch of friends that have different religious views and they don’t really get that offended by it.

 

And so they’re kind of this neo-perennialist. It’s not really a religion, but it’s kind of this new agey, neo-perennialist kind of worldview, basically. And that seems to kind of, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Globalism. Globalism is probably the primary worldview.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: So it’s all get along to get along.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that’s part of it. But it seems, because there’s like those famous clips of where they asked Trump what is what his favourite Bible verse was? And he’s like:

 

“Well there’s just so many good ones. I can’t tell you one.”

 

And they were kind of like:

 

“You don’t know one Bible verse?”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, no, there’s just so many!”

 

And they’re like:

 

“You know what’s your favourite Testament? Old Testament or New Testament?”

 

He’s like:

 

“Well, you know, about the same. They’re both great. They’re both fantastic! I always say that the Art of the Deal is my second favourite book behind the Bible!”

 

He has this, like, he’s kind of acting like as if he’s never read the Bible in his life. It’s quite funny.

 

Anyway, the point is he kind of showed that he had this almost like fake Christianity. Like, I remember they asked him once if he prayed to. And he said:

 

“No, I don’t need to pray. I don’t believe in praying.”

 

They’re like:

 

“What do you mean, you’re a Christian?”

 

He’s like:

 

“I don’t believe in that.”

 

It’s just like:

 

“I’m a winner. I don’t need to pray. I just get what I want!”

 

Kind of thing. It’s kind of funny!

 

Thomas Sewell: [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Kind of [chuckling] had the attitude, typical Trump shit! I’m actually trying to pull it up because it’s a pretty funny clip.

 

But the point is that, yeah, he kind of has always had this kind of disingenuous kind of American political Christianity, which he is seemingly happy to drop. And the same thing with the pro-life stuff.

 

And it seems like even though there is a vocal minority of very devout Christians in American politics that are more influential than in a lot of other Western countries, the same trends of kind of declining church attendance rates and declining faith and declining, … Even people who do go to church or who do profess faith, they’re kind of declining orthodoxy in their doctrinal beliefs. And there’s kind of an adjustment, therefore, that he seems to be precipitating. And he made very clear in his speech:

 

“I’m a leader for all Americans, of all race, colour, creed, whatever!”

 

And so that really does also comport with that Joe Roganist neo-centrism:

 

“We don’t want to be too conservative on any social issue. Like, yeah, the tranny thing is too far, but we don’t want to be too conservative on any social issue because we’re going to exclude an increasingly secular or perennialist multi-religious., …”

 

And also largely, a lot of people are atheists or agnostics:

 

“We don’t want to exclude any of these people. We want to create this big, inclusive, get rid of the illegal immigrants, and civic nationalism.”

 

That all seems to be really coalescing. And that makes sense of what would be popular.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I saw one thing from that porn star or whatever she was that was speaking at the RNC. I think it was just the introduction to her speech. And she said something like:

 

“We don’t care whether you’re gay or straight or White or black.”

 

And basically saying that this is the worldview that she stands up for and it’s the same as Trump and it’s the same as the RNC, and Kumbaya together. And I just thought, this is fucking brilliant! And then I saw that that Shabbos goyim*, or whatever he was.

 

I can’t remember his full name, but I’m pretty sure his name was Shabois. And he was saying.

 

[* A Shabbos goy, Shabbat goy or Shabbes goy is a non-jew who is employed by jews to perform certain types of work that Jewish religious law prohibits a jew from doing on the Shabbat (Friday evening, Saturday). Aka, as a jewish insult, someone who serves the jews.]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, Shabbos.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And he was saying about how obviously they need to ban anti-semitism, you know, it needs to be illegal.

 

Joel Davis: Kestenbaum.*

 

Thomas Sewell: And it turns out he’s actually a registered Democrat and tweeted about his support for the Democrats, like, a week ago.

 

And so they had a Democrat, a porn star. I’m sure this has all been said before, but for those that aren’t aware of this, yeah, it seems like the RNC convention was the most normal, …

 

[* One of the ‘everyday Americans’ included in Wednesday’s RNC speaker list is recent Harvard grad Shabbos Kestenbaum, who is suing the university over its alleged failure to combat anti-semitism on campus. Wall Street Journal]

 

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Joel Davis: Wasn’t even like a blonde, Americana, big tits porn star. She was a half black, shaved head, bald with face tattoos on her forehead porn star. It was really egregious. And she has clips talking about how Satanism is a logical religion or something that I saw going around.

 

And then, yeah, Kestenbaum, as you said, he tweeted, like, literally ten days ago. I’ll quote him here. @ShabbosK is his Twitter handle. It says here:

 

“I am a Democrat. I spoke out against Russia interference in the 2016 election to sow division and supported policies to combat it. I am begging my party now to immediately do the same with Iran.”

 

And then obviously, he wasn’t getting enough love from the Democrats in his anti-Iran message. So now he’s speaking at the RNC, you know, literally a week later.

 

Thomas Sewell: Incredible!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it is. But that’s par for the course. Remember, like a while ago, they had all the pro-Palestine protests on American college campuses. And then there were, like, these patriotic young White Americans that were lionised by the media, particularly Fox News, for kind of attacking them and hoisting American flags on campus. But, you know, there was, like. I think there was some White frat guys that did it, and the media kind of ignored them.

 

But then there were these jewish frat guys who did it, and then they became, like, turned into superstars and they had their little cameo. And, yeah, there was a lot of cringe.

 

The only element, I would say from the RNC that was cool, other than Hulk Hogan. He liked, ripped. I got to play the Hulk Hogan clip. The Hulk Hogan thing was actually, I love American retardation! I find it, …

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s getting closer and closer to that movie Idiocracy. Every day we’re just getting closer to reality TV.

 

Joel Davis: HH, brother!

 

Hulk Hogan: But what happened last week when they took a shot at my hero! [crowd cheering] And they tried to kill the next president of the United States! Enough was enough! And I said:

“Let Trumpomania run wild, brother! Let Trumpomania rule again! Let Trumpomania Make America Great Again!”

 

Why not do that, instead of that kind of thing? Even me, as, like, a cynical asshole Nazi, I’m like:

 

“Okay, I kind of like it!”

 

Like, that shit’s kind of, … And the Magatards must be cooming at that shit! The Magatards are cooming themselves like crazy! We put the half black porn star up and the Sikh woman singing prayers to some God, I can’t even remember the name of, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Because they’re trying to appeal to everyone.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but go only on Hulkamania, in my opinion. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: You know how Indians can withstand, like, copious amounts of the smell of shit! Americans have a different kind of tolerance for cringe. Americans can just tolerate just immense atomic levels of cringe! Their whole culture is just built on being able to withstand the most amount of cringe! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, [chuckling] yeah. Like, they had a kid rock performance, and I caught a little bit of that they had Dana White from the UFC introduce Trump. And it was quite funny because he was clearly on a shitload of cocaine, because he was just garbling his jaw and licking his lips and, like, his eyes were darting around the room, was yelling into the mic in this kind of bizarre way! [chuckling] Yeah, it was really Murica on the last day. Like, this was like, think day four, but yeah, it was like, over the top woke! Like, even like, shit the Democrats wouldn’t even do on day one. And then day four, they just like, tripled down on, like, Fox News, WWE, UFC, kid rock! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: They threw everything at it, threw everything at it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. This guy, though, was. I thought this was interesting.

 

Thomas Homan: As a guy who spent 34 years deporting illegal aliens, I got a message to the millions of illegal aliens that Joe Biden’s released in our country in violation of federal law. You better start packing now! [crowd cheers] You’re damn right! Because you’re going home!

 

Joel Davis: Anyway. I thought that was kind of interesting.

 

I mean, I would say that’s like, the one good policy. And Trump did mention, like he said in his speech, and he said it before in his rallies, they want to do the largest deportations in world history. They referenced Dwight Eisenhower, his administration, the fifties, Operation Wetback, where they deported, like, one and a half million Mexicans. And he said:

 

“We’re going to, like, smash their record or whatever with all of our deportations!”

 

And you could be cynical and say:

 

“Oh, they’re going to deport all the Mexicans and then bring in pajeets legally, so what’s the difference?”

 

In fact, maybe that’s worse. Maybe you’d rather have Mexicans than pajeets. But I still think it would be a good thing to see the state, a modern Western state carry out a mass deportation of millions of people just so that people can see that it’s possible. And they’re going to have to use the military to do it. I would just love to see the military, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Under budget and ahead of schedule! That’s Trump’s little caption for it. Yeah.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, I do think it would be great! Like, that would be the one keynote thing. Maybe the jews will let him do it just because he’s giving them everything else that they want.

 

So he has made it a kind of centre point, like the way that the [border] wall was like a centre point last time. This seems to be one of his main centre point policies. And according to opinion polls, when Trump was elected in 2016, only about 40 something percent of Americans said that they would support mass deporting illegal immigrants. Now it’s like 66% or something in the last poll they did. So there’s public support for it, just probably because of the sheer quantity that have come over the border in recent years. And, yeah, obviously people could say:

 

“Well, what are they going to do about illegal immigration?”

 

Sorry, about legal immigration, probably that isn’t going to improve. But there’s still like something crazy! Like they estimate 15 to 30 million illegal immigrants in America, at least.

 

So that’s a pretty large amount of people. So if they were going to seriously undertake their removal, I think that would be an objectively good thing. And it would just be great optics for mass deportations as an idea, as a concept. Obviously, it would be different, like in Australia, we would want to do a mass deportation of legal immigrants! But so that would obviously have a different connotation.

 

But nevertheless, just to show that it’s possible. But you can round people up and remove them en masse. And you can do it in a clean and orderly fashion, like you said, on time and under budget or ahead of schedule and under budget. So I do like that. I do feel like, I mean, other people say:

 

“Well, why would you hope for that? They’re just promising it, but they won’t deliver it.”

 

And yeah, I’m sceptical, but at the same time, something to keep an eye on because he’s going to win! It doesn’t matter what anyone watching the show does.

 

Thomas Sewell: He didn’t complete the wall, but he at least brought the wall into the conversation. And we have the images of the wall. We have the Democrats crying at the wall! The wall was a symbolic victory, even if it wasn’t like a logistic victory.

 

And likewise, I think the same thing will happen with the deportations. They’re not going to send back the 35 million illegal Mexicans and Central Americans in the country. No way! But they’ll send enough back to prove a point. And that’s certainly a better position and a better situation.

 

But ultimately, it doesn’t change our situation. We still need to build power.

 

Joel Davis: Of course.

 

Thomas Sewell: And I think a lot of the rhetoric that’s happening stems from the innate strength of the far-Right. And that it’s much better to get Trump to appeal to the far-Right than it is to not have a far-Right or it is to not have Trump.

 

So, yeah, obviously things are moving in the right direction. It’s just not as fast as everyone wants it to. Everyone wants a fascist dictator to take over tomorrow. But realistically, we’re still a few more election cycles away from that happening.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, definitely. I think we just need to see mass., … And it’s important for Europe as well because momentum is really building there around re-migration. I think a mass deportation being effected in America would be inspirational and would galvanise, I think, a lot of the European Right to further rigidify their policies.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s no legitimacy to the Leftist opposition when they come to the table in the Parliament and say:

 

“Oh, but this is not logistically feasible or this is going to cost too much money.”

 

All these talking points go out the window once Trump has actually proven you can deport a couple million people in a short period of time. And yeah, America sneezes and the rest of the world blows its nose is a pretty common expression for these kind of how, you know, politics bleeds out of America. Once America does something, once the rest of the world is like:

 

“Oh, that’s possible. Okay, well, we’re allowed to do that now.”

 

And everyone’s kind of waiting for permission from Rome or big daddy or however you want to look at it from a political standpoint. They always wait for the capital. The capital’s kind of sometimes got to make the first move. Otherwise it’s seen as like a rebellion against the order. You know, you can’t just have like the Danish just deport like a couple hundred thousand, you know, Algerians or whatever the fuck is in Denmark at the moment. I’m sure there’s some racial subset there that’s balkanizing it. You can’t really do that until you kind of get permission, unless you risk what happened with Germany, basically. And that was a very different world to today.

 

Do you want to get on the next topic?

 

Joel Davis: I wanted to ask you your opinion about, because there’s one other, it’s kind of related to this, but it’s a different story. And it’s really been grouping Right-wing Twitter, particularly the American wing of Right-wing Twitter, which is the dominant element of it over the last few days. There’s this account called Libs of TikTok. I’m sure you’re aware of it’s run by some jewish woman. It’s just like some conservative account.

 

But anyway, there’s been a whole bunch of like, American libtards that have been going on social media and being like:

 

“Oh, like the assassin, don’t miss next time!”

 

About like the assassination attempt.

 

And they got a few of them fired from their jobs, or something, in the way that Leftists have been getting us fired from our jobs. And there’s been a bit of a debate on the online right as to, like, whether it’s a good, or a bad thing! Some side was saying:

 

“Oh, it’s not good optics. They’re just like random libtard, you know, moms and pops. They’re just normie libtards. Like, getting them fired from their job at Home Depot is kind of bad optics or something.”

 

The other view that I think people like myself, I agree with this is, fuck libtards! They have been complicit, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Annihilation.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! They have been complicit in, look at what happened during Covid, what they were complicit in there. What they’ve been complicit in getting so many of our guys fired for our political opinions. They have yet been complicit in the social enforcement of an agenda that’s trying to genocide our race and turn our kids into faggots and trannies.

 

I think Sam Hyde said on Twitter that they basically all need to be put into electroshock therapy or re-education camps or something.

 

Thomas Sewell: I agree. At a minimum.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! And he made a very good post on the matter. And I think, basically, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I heard he had a good tweet on it, but I hadn’t seen the tweet yet. Is that the famous tweet people are talking about that went off?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, yeah. Went off. You should look it up. I did quote, tweet it.

 

So, yeah, you could find it on my page.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I’ll have a look at it. Well, yeah. My initial reaction is, Adolf Hitler says:

 

“We must fight fire with fire and poison gas with poison gas!”

 

So that’s doctrinal for me. So nothing’s off limits in that regard.

 

And I also am just a big believer in just reflecting what they’re doing to us back onto them. So if it works, if it’s effective, you know, send it back on them. They deserve it’s cosmic justice. It’s harming karma however you want to look at it.

 

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Furthermore, what I’d say is that if you can’t rule by love and respect, then you can only rule by fear.

 

Now, ultimately, you don’t want to have to rule by fear, but we’re in a toxic relationship with libshits! We actually don’t want to be married to them. We don’t want to be in a society with them. We’re in a dysfunctional family, or a dysfunctional marriage. And it ultimately needs to be a split, a schism, a divorce, we can go to couples therapy. There’s all sorts of things that we can do, but I don’t think any of it is going to fix it.

 

So, yeah, anything that creates – this might be taken out of context by the intelligence surveillance organisations of the country – but what we’re in is an arms race.

 

And I’m going to say that from a completely philosophical standpoint.

 

Joel Davis: Metaphorical.

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re in an arms race, and they’re using these weapons. Yeah, a metaphorical arms race. Exactly! And they’re using these weapons against us, like doxxing, like firing. They’re using the weapons against us. We would be absolutely foolish to not retaliate with the same capacity, because we’re in an arms race and people on our side. And I think I’ve written some essays on this before, the people on our side that are like:

 

“No, I’m not with them. I’m not with the fighters. I’m not with the people doing this!”

 

They’re just cowards! They are not actually against these people getting doxxed on a moral principle. They’re not against these people losing their jobs based on a moral principle. What they’re against is the arms race. They’re against us doing it back because they know inherently that that will make libshits more radical, and then libshits are going to become more violent, more aggressive. Their politics is going to become more radical and revolutionary, and it’s ultimately going to lead to a Spanish civil war scenario where the communists are pulling the nuns out of the Churches and raping them.

 

And because these cowards don’t ultimately want to fight back, when it gets to that level, … Because when it gets to that level, when the communists are pulling the nuns out of the Church and raping them, and pulling the corpses out of the Church and the effigies and anything else that’s of some sort of significance, and defiling them, pissing on them, raping the corpses, whatever they were doing, … When that eventually does occur, because of this arms race of back and forth, because we keep standing up for ourselves, they keep escalating, we keep standing up for ourselves, they keep escalating. And this back and forth keeps occurring.

 

Again, they always draw first blood. We didn’t start cancel culture, we didn’t start doxxing, we didn’t start any of these things. And likewise with the assassination attempt on Trump, I can’t think of an assassination attempt on any Left-wing politician in recent history.

 

But anyway, …

 

Joel Davis: There’s been heaps of attempts of other Right-wing politicians in Europe over the past year.

 

Thomas Sewell: Exactly! There’s been knife attacks, hammer attacks, shootings you know, there’s been all sorts of attacks on us, …

 

Joel Davis: In Spain and Germany.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, likewise in Greece and in Italy and in Spain, there’s many nationalists that have been murdered and assassinated. The one time there’s an assassination, or it wasn’t assassination, but there was a murder in Greece that caused Golden Dawn to be shut down and registered as a criminal organisation.

 

Golden Dawn members were assassinated in the past, and the Antifas and the communist groups, none of them were designated as criminal organisations. So there’s an arms race. That’s what happens. And when we retaliate, generally, that’s what happens. So you’re going to have people saying:

 

“Oh, you can’t do this! This has to be taken off the table!”

 

Because they’re ultimately afraid to stand up and fight. When it gets to the nuns getting pulled out of the Church and raped, the people that are on our side when it comes time to actually form the, … I can’t remember the name of the Spanish nationalist battalion that actually went out and dealt with that problem. But the equivalent of how, why was the Einsatzgruppen*, and why were the SS forming anti-guerrilla warfare units, counterinsurgency units? Why were they forming units to hunt down paramilitaries? Well, that’s because jews trained by NKVD were behind enemy lines and they were doing horrible war crimes behind enemy lines after Operation Barbarossa**.

 

[* The Einsatzgruppen were special units of the German Security Police and SD assigned to execute security measures immediately behind German lines. With the assistance of the Waffen SS, police units, the army, allied Romanian forces, and local collaborators, the Einsatzgruppen conducted shooting of partisans and other local enemy forces.]

 

[** Operation Barbarossa was the pre-emptive offensive invasion of the Soviet Union by Germany and many of its Axis allies, starting on Sunday, 22 June 1941, during World War II. It was the largest and costliest land offensive in human history, with around 10 million combatants taking part, and over 8 million casualties by the end of the operation.]

 

And so the SS had to form units to deal with that problem. They had to form pretty savage units to deal with that pretty savage problem. In my opinion, don’t fear the arms race. Just lean into it and fight back, and there’s going to be casualties in war. And as it escalates, that will lead to the libshits working out more strategies to harm conservative people.

 

 

But, yeah, absolutely! I think that libshits should be in fear to say that kind of stuff on the Internet. It shows that we’re taking back ground, which is very important in the psychological space.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Superchat, by the way, from Gustavus Vassar, saying:

 

“When will you invite Haas to the show?”

 

I don’t think that’s going to be happening anytime soon. He’s a pretty bad host, actually. When I debated him last weekend, probably shouldn’t have agreed to a debate with a communist without a moderator.

 

So that was kind of probably stupid by me. Anyway, so, yeah, I don’t really have any interest in engaging with the hostile person, particularly a non-White communist without a moderator ever again as a result of that.

 

But yeah, on this topic of what you’re describing. Again, to bring up Carl Schmitt, Carl Schmitt diagnoses liberalism in the classical sense as de-politicizing, in the sense that liberalism says:

 

“We’re going to have these rights and these norms and all the different political ideologies have to respect these norms so that we can have a kind of fair and just and reasonable competition within the paradigm of these rules and strictures to prevent political polarisation and a contest for absolute power between one or another ideological faction.”

 

And so liberalism is in a certain sense, not actually a form of politics, but it’s a form of anti-politics by this definition.

 

And so these libertarian and conservative types who are like:

 

“Well, if you engage in cancel culture, you’re just as bad as the Left. (Or) if you engage in identity politics, well, you’re just as bad as the Left or blah, blah, blah! You’re just playing into the enemy’s hands!”

 

Like:

 

“If the enemy is doing identity politics and you do White Identity Politics, you’re just playing into their hands. You’re just proving their point. You do cancel culture, then you can’t complain about them doing cancel culture!”

 

And the thing is, the issue is not the tactics of the Left. The issue is not the means of the Left. It’s the ends of the Left. It’s what they’re using the tactics for.

 

Thomas Sewell: Exactly!

 

Joel Davis: Like the issue isn’t that people use guns when they try to kill people. The issue is when they kill people unjustly. If you’re killing bad people, then using a gun is a good thing. In the same sense of if you’re using cancel culture against Leftists who are the enemy of our civilisation, it’s a good thing. If using identity politics to defend the White race, it’s a good thing because we are speaking from the perspective of what’s good for the White race, what’s good for Western civilisation, what’s good for our families, for our nations. And the Left is fundamentally opposed to that. They’re a civilisational virus!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes!

 

Joel Davis: And so the issue isn’t how they’re going about things. The issue is what they are, what they’re for. And what these conservatives want to do is they want to preserve this space of society that can somehow be de-politicised where it doesn’t matter if you’re on the left or the Right or what race you are or what political affiliations you have:

 

“We can all just watch the game and touch grass together. And so on and drink a beer and talk about the weather.”

 

They want to preserve this kind of social peace from being politicised.

 

But the thing is that that time is well and truly over! When we were a homogeneous White society and it was like the 1950s and the argument between the Left and the Right was over tax policy or something, we could have a fair and gentlemanly political conflict that didn’t infect all of society. Now the Left has basically totally gone after us, to try and completely de-platform us from being able to participate in politics. We’re banned from using social media. We’re banned from using many, most venues. We’re banned from so many aspects of society, indirectly, if not directly, because of our political affiliations. And so many other people on the Right experience the same thing across the Western world.

 

They’ve taken over the school system, they’ve taken over the media, they’ve taken over the government, and they’re using all of these institutions to completely destroy our civilisation and kill our race!

 

And so your response to that is:

 

“We’re at war!”

 

You don’t get to choose to go to war or not when the enemy has chosen to go to war.

 

Thomas Sewell: Exactly!

 

Joel Davis: You only get to choose whether you’re going to war or not, when the enemy is still trying to have peace, where the enemy hasn’t declared war on you yet. Once they declare war, you have no choice! You just got to fight! You either fight or you surrender!

 

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And so what these conservatives actually are, is they’re surrender monkeys.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Like, they delude through their convoluted morality, they basically are appealing to, they say:

 

“Well, the moral thing to do would be to have a society that was de-politicised, that had these fair and just rules that all people would be subject to.”

 

That’s not actually a moral system, though. What that is a truce. What that is that is a negotiation, …

 

Thomas Sewell: A truce with the devil.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but the thing is that the devil’s not interested in taking the truce, first of all. And second of all, even if they were, the only reason that they would be interested in taking the truce would be because we had turned the tables and now we were in the ascendancy, in which case we should just run over them and fucking crush them! Because then we’re winning!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Joel Davis: So there’s no point taking a truce. When you have to appeal to rights and democracies and norms, it means you’re in the losing position. It means you’re like trying to say to the enemy:

 

“Hey, hey, hey! We should have all of these, I should have all of these things that protect me from you totally dominating me.”

 

But once you’re in power, all of those things become irrational. They just become limitations on your power.

 

So the Left are in power. They’re saying:

 

“Well, fuck rights! Fuck democracy! Fuck all of these things!”

 

They were only useful to use against the Right when they still had some power, when they were still afraid of them. Now that they’re no longer afraid of us, they’re destroying all of these things.

 

So now we have to fight them. Like, the time under which these things could have protected us is long gone. And trying to appeal to them as principles against your own side makes no sense. Appealing to them against the enemy, trying to expose the enemy’s hypocrisy or whatever, yeah, that does make sense. And if you can convince dumbasses on the left to care about the rights of Right-wingers, then go right ahead. Let them be useful idiots that basically take the boot off our neck as a result. But I’m trying to convince your own side to take the boot off your enemy’s neck. It’s fucking retarded, strategically.

 

But, of course, a lot of these conservatives, they don’t think in these terms. They don’t want to fight. As you said. They’re afraid of polarisation. They’re afraid of civil war or, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Because they think we’ll lose. They’re defeatists! They’re fundamentally weak! They’re lazy! They’re defeatists!

 

Joel Davis: And even if they win, even if they thought that we could win, they probably still would argue against it because they don’t want to, …

 

Thomas Sewell: They might break a nail, …

 

Joel Davis: Winning would still still cost. Like, no war is won without casualties. And they don’t want to pay the price.

 

So a lot of the people that were saying:

 

“Oh, you shouldn’t go after this poor woman, blah, blah, blah.”

 

A lot of them, I noticed, were, were women, or they were gen-Xer types and so on. Obviously, on Twitter, it’s hard to tell exactly who someone is because, well, …

 

Thomas Sewell: They haven’t been hurt yet. They haven’t been hurt by the Left. They’re in a comfortable position. They’re comfortable, you know, they’re paying off their mortgage. They’ve got a decent job. You know, they haven’t been hurt. They haven’t suffered from the Left’s tyranny. They haven’t had their bank accounts closed down. They haven’t had the police knock on their door. Because they’re not fighting, they’re just spectating, they’re like:

 

“Whoa, whoa, whoa! Let’s be civil here, guys. Come on!”

 

And it’s like:

 

“Do you forget what they did to us? Do you think we’ve forgotten what they’ve done to us?”

 

We’re going to do much worse to them, when the shoe is on the other foot.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly!

 

Also, the other objection that I heard was from more people on our side who were saying:

 

“Oh, like, why are you supporting this? The Libs of TikTok, they’re run by, that account is run by a jewish woman. Trump is a Zionist, so who cares if someone is advocating for assassinating them?”

 

My response to this is, those principles that we just discussed about Left-Right polarisation are actually more important than any of those specific details.

 

Secondly, when Leftists and jews attack each other, the only proper response to that is to get your popcorn out and cheer it on, because you just want them to do as much damage to each other as possible. But third of all there’s a distinction between, … Like, there’s attacking Trump from the Right, which is basically attacking Trump because he’s not enough like Hitler. Trump should be more Hitler.

 

And so those kinds of attacks are different. Like, those kinds of attacks are legitimate. They’re like an internal Right-wing attack trying to drag the consciousness towards a more Right-wing position. But the Left-wing attack is that Trump is too much like Hitler, or Trump, like, even if it’s delusional, they’re like:

 

“Trump is literally Hitler!”

 

And so when they’re attacking Trump, they’re attacking the idea of Hitler, basically. They’re attacking the idea of a strong Right-wing leader who actually stands up for White people and stands up to the Left.

 

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Now, now, that might not actually comport with the reality of Trump, but it doesn’t matter because that idea is still a real political idea, because the spectre of a Right-wing populist leader rising and seizing control of the state and basically destroying libtards and basically deporting all the non-Whites and putting all the trannies and gays into re-education camps and all this kind of stuff, that is still like a spectre that haunts the political process.

 

The idea of like, proper Right-wing political victory, not conservatives winning election, but like, the establishment of a Right-wing authoritarian state, what that would mean, what that would imply. And people see echoes of that kind of Julius Caesar figure or Hitlerian figure in Trump, because the Right-wing energy that coalesced around Trump had that spectre. He tapped into that spectre, even if he doesn’t actually embody it in practice.

 

So when a Left-winger attacks Trump, they’re really, from that perspective, they’re attacking the Right, they’re attacking Right-wing authoritarianism, they’re attacking the spectre of Hitler, they’re attacking the White race, they’re attacking everything that we hold dear.

 

And so because they’re attacking him for the wrong reason that just proves that they’re the political enemy, and therefore, any punishment that comes out to them, any discipline that comes out to them, fantastic! I wouldn’t agree with canceling anyone on the Right who is, like a far-Right person who attacks Trump from the Right, obviously. That’s totally legitimately, totally different.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: So, and I haven’t actually seen that happening. I haven’t seen, like, a, like, a wignat who is calling Trump a jewish shill or something. No one’s going after them and getting them fired for that. They’re getting fired for their actual political beliefs, not for that specific one.

 

So, yeah, I wouldn’t be too concerned. Like, ultimately, what is being achieved here is nothing that really impacts us. It’s just like, laugh at the libtard suffering and cheer on more libtard suffering.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, I agree to these terms.

 

Joel Davis: You know did you see that video of Tucker Carlson that I posted a few days ago?

 

Thomas Sewell: I saw two videos of Tucker Carlson. One was of him going after the Schofield Bible, and the other was him talking about, Great Replacement, again.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the Great Replacement one, should I play? It’s only, like, a minute 30.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: I want to get your thoughts on this. I gave my thoughts on Telegram and Twitter. Because I think this is interesting, like, this seems to be a step ahead of stuff that we’ve heard from Tucker up till this point.

 

Tucker: You know, why would you want to watch the people whose ancestors built the country die, mock them as they die, and then replace them? I don’t understand. I mean, that suggests actual hate, like, homicidal hate! I would never want something like that for anybody. By the way, it’s not just the United States. It’s happening all over the Western world. The people whose ancestors built these countries are dying, and they’re being replaced. And it’s like, why would you want to do that? There’s something very heavy going on.

 

 

You know, I mean, go to Sweden, go to the UK, go to London! I mean, it’s shocking! And I don’t at this point care if you’re not allowed to notice it or if you’re racist to notice it’s happening in Ireland. Ireland! Ireland was never a colonial power! Like, in the United States, like:

“Well, you have to put up this because you were mean to Puerto Rico or something!”

You know what I mean?

Or you’ve used too much carbon. So you have an obligation to allow all of Central Africa move to your country and give them housing vouchers. Okay. But Ireland never did anything to anybody. Ireland was oppressed by Great Britain, actually. It was never a colonial power! Sat out an entire World War [WW II]. No, exactly! They suffered a potato famine. So why are you doing this to the Irish? They are the indigenous population of their island, and you’re watching them die and replacing them with people from the third world. On what basis are you doing that, George Soros, actually? Like, what’s the real answer? And you have to think that this is genocidal intent. Like, what else is it? I mean, honestly, what else is it?:

“Oh, shut up!”

How about, no! Because I want to live it’s 1985 in the country that I loved, where honest questions could be asked with full confidence. You had a right to do that because you’re an American. And I’m going to live that way until I die. And I don’t care what they do to me. I’m going to live it’s 1985 in my country.

 

 

And I’m going to ask a super obvious question:

“Why are you doing that? And why are we putting up with it?”

I don’t think we should!

 

Thomas Sewell: Is that Donald Trump junior on the left?

 

Joel Davis: I don’t think so. that was on the Dan Bongino show.

 

Thomas Sewell: Is he the guy in the middle? That looked like Donald Trump junior on the left? Whoever it was on the left, was very uncomfortable. Not very uncomfortable, but was hiding their uncomfortableness with it. And I was wondering whether that was Donald Trump junior, because it kind of looked like him. It could be wrong.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, actually it is! It is Donald Trump Junior. Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. That’s definitely a huge increase in the rhetoric. That’s basically our rhetoric from a couple years ago. So he’s come a long way. Obviously, he said some pretty dumb things in the past, and even recently, even within the last twelve months, he said some pretty stupid things like that he doesn’t care. He said something that was like, could be perceived as quite anti-White. But that those statements seem just straight down the line. And he’s the most influential journalist in the world. And we’ve got Elon Musk often agreeing with a lot of the things Tucker Carlson says, and a lot of the memes floating around in our circles.

 

So we’ve got basically the richest man or second richest man in the world, and we’ve got the most influential, most watched, listened to journalist in the world, just straight up, he just straight up said that White genocide is a real thing and why is it happening? Who’s pushing it and why?

 

I like the rhetoricalness of it. I like the rhetoric of it, because sometimes if you say what’s happening, … Like, we can just say it’s the jews! And we can say:

 

“It’s the satanic, Kabbalahistic, Blackrock jews!”

 

And we can say who it is. But sometimes just asking the question is equally as powerful.

 

[1:33:42]

 

 

As much as everyone’s obsessed with saying:

 

“It’s the jews! It’s the jews!”

 

Often that doesn’t wake people up. It can shut people off. Versus just asking the question, plants that seed and opens the door to the next step. He’s opening doors. And these people, I thought if they’re controlled, if they controlled opposition, that kind of behaviour does not appear controlled. That kind of behaviour from him appears very open and free. Like, that’s his actual rhetoric. That doesn’t seem like a script, that doesn’t seem like the jews have told him what he’s allowed to say and what he’s not allowed to say. That just sounds completely sincere.

 

And when we think about the old gatekeepers, when we were dealing with the 2016 election cycle, Trump was saying all these things that were quite marvelous and about the wall and about American manufacturing and about it was like, it was very Baby Hitler. Yeah, it was like very baby Hitler. And we can’t have Hitler yet, but we can have, like, this really, really, really watered down version of it where it’s like:

 

“Wow! Finally just, …”

 

Joel Davis: [words unclear]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, exactly! And [word unclear] Hitler.

 

And then you had all these gatekeepers in the wider scene that weren’t really directly related to Trump. But you had these Ben Sharpiros, you had these Jordan Peterstein’s, you had all these characters, and they were really gate-keeping everyone. I noticed a lot of people started getting engaged in politics in 2016, and they’re on YouTube and they’re watching Trump speeches or they’re watching this kind of stuff.

 

And then the next video is “Peterstein”! And then it just takes you off course, because they’re gate-keeping and diverting. They’re diverting your attention.

 

Whereas what Tucker’s doing there, either consciously or unconsciously, he is opening the door to the next question, which is if he’s asking who’s doing it and why? And does this constitute genocide? Because that’s what it looks like. The next question is:

 

“Okay, so it’s the jews. They’re doing it because they hate us! It is genocide! What do we do about it?”

 

That’s a logical conclusion. That’s the dialogue.

 

Joel Davis: And even if you don’t even go to, “it’s the jews”, I think the logical conclusion to draw from it is:

 

“We’re being attacked as a race, therefore we have to defend ourselves as a race.”

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

zz And that’s why when I posted it, I also posted a video of him, his remarks from last year, where he counter-signaled the idea of White Identity Politics, saying:

 

“Well, just because you have the same skin colour as me. Why would you? You can’t speak on my behalf.”

 

And I thought that was a ridiculous idea because. Yeah, I thought that was a ridiculous notion, though, because, yeah, like, now you kind of can’t have both of those views at the same time. You know, you can’t say you can’t have White Identity Politics and also, but there’s a White genocide happening.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: We’ll see how he develops later.

 

Thomas Sewell: It is interesting what he says at the end there about:

 

“I want to live in 1985!”

 

Specifically, like this golden era of probably his childhood or his teenage years or young twenties or something.

 

And it’s like this golden era that he remembers where everything was sane and normal and black people were cool and crime was low [chuckling] and everyone just got along and it was like utopia, kind of semi multi-cult, like “salt and pepper” America. He wants to go back to salt and pepper America where nobody cared about race. Everyone’s colour-blind. He can’t have that! So now he’s asking questions about why we’re getting genocided. So that I think that that’s definitely an escalation in the right direction. In the arms race.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. When Tucker was in Australia recently, he was asked by some Leftist journalist, …

 

Thomas Sewell: That Asian chick?

 

Joel Davis: From the ABC, I don’t remember what she looked like because I just saw the video of, you could hear her voice, but I didn’t see her yeah, she could have been Asian.

 

Anyway, she asked him:

 

“Why are you promoting the racist conspiracy theory, the ‘Great Replacement’ that’s linked to mass shootings and blah, blah, blah?”

 

And he laughed at her. But what he said was:

 

“Well, it’s not just the White Americans that are being replaced, it’s also the black Americans!”

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Joel Davis: And a lot of people interpreted that in a negative way, and I could see why.

 

But at the same time, there is a certain kind of logic to that. But he’s trying to get out of being called a racist. But it is a obvious rhetorical move where you can say:

 

“Well, you know, America was a White country with a black minority, and that’s actually who real Americans are. And all these, you know, people that are coming in now, they aren’t really Americans or whatever.”

 

You can kind of see a certain logic to that where you can, … But then the thing is, you can’t extend that logic to any European country. And he explicitly defended a whole series of European countries. And also he said the same thing was happening in Australia.

 

So if he wants to have that, like, way of getting out of being called a racist in American politics, but then he still groups it in:

 

“Well, blacks aren’t being replaced in Africa, are they?”

 

So it just seems like these black slaves are just caught in the crossfire of White genocide and just so happen to have their jobs taken by Mexicans. But it’s not because George Soros and the jews are trying to replace blacks. It’s because they’re trying to replace Whites and they just so happen to be there.

 

So you could say it is a form of cucking. It is a form of optics cucking, but at the same time, … And he probably does genuinely like blacks, he did have a lot of blacks on his show when he was on Fox. I remember he interviewed Kanye West and, yeah, he seemed to kind of he always seemed to kind of have a certain kind of a negrophilia of sorts, which I guess is, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Everyone saying in the chat that Blair is trying to connect, that Blair’s in the house?

 

Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah, send him a link to the stream.

 

Joel Davis: I’ll send him a link. Yeah, I guess he’s free. That’s good.

 

But what I was gonna say about Tucker. Like, it’s not the rhetoric that I would use, but I can kind of see that gives him a certain kind of political protection where he can kind of pretend like he’s got his arm around the black guy and then he’s like:

 

“America is just us! Not any of you people!”

 

I don’t love it, but it’s still a vast improvement.

 

And then the day after he does this with Donald Trump junior sitting there on the stream, and then he’s sitting next to Trump at the RNC the following day taking photos. So, …

 

He kind of has this level of legitimacy and he has his own network now, ever since he got fired from Fox, where I guess he can kind of do what he wants and he’s been taking shots at Israel and now he’s talking, he’s a free man now. He can kind of do what he wants. And he’s so popular and he’s kind of independent that I guess he can get away with it.

 

So I’m kind of warming to him based upon those remarks in particular, if I’m honest.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s incredible, the things he’s saying. It’s absolutely changing the political dynamic. How’s it going, Blair? Good to see you.

 

Blair Cottrell: Hey, guys. Thanks for inviting me on. Sorry I had to message the main chat there and sorry I’m late. I wasn’t actually intending on making it home in time, but just got home from a family birthday dinner and I’m glad that I made it. I don’t know what’s being discussed, but I’ll just try to keep up with whatever topics passing by, …

 

Thomas Sewell: It was mostly just the RNC conference.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Just Trump, the assassination. Yeah. Geopolitics. So just like American-Indian alliance at the moment.

 

Joel Davis: Would you like to weigh in on anything to do with America or would you like to instead talk about you getting your YouTube banned, because that was also on the agenda.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think the biggest news is obviously the assassination attempt! I’ve yet to, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, we have covered it, though. We have completely, we covered the first, like 20 minutes of the show. So we can just jump straight to the next topic. Unless you want to give your take.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like, my take is that I’m just kind of stunned by it. Not that it happened, but that he survived it! It’s just shocking that he survived it! I couldn’t believe it! When I saw that computer generated image where if he didn’t turn his head at the opportune time, the bullet would have gone through his skull. Is that just some Jupiterian-Sagi [astrology] luck or is this kind of, … I don’t know. I just don’t know how to describe this man. I don’t get it! I’m just like:

 

“Wow! He survived an assassination attempt by millimeters. Incredible! ?”

 

Joel Davis: And then the fist bumps and, like:

 

“Fight! Fight! Fight!”

 

Like was, it was pretty epic.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like WWE, everyone’s, …

 

Joel Davis: He kind of threw a Roman!

 

Blair Cottrell: Look. It’s really reinvigorated a bit of patriotic sentiment in the American people, and that’s great to see! And really, that’s all I can say about it. Let’s be honest. Like, I’m an outsider, I’m not an American, but there’s been some really cool footage that’s come of it.

 

And actually, the latest Trump video that came out the official Trump video was actually really based. It was really cool! Like, I enjoyed watching it. It was good propaganda, good electoral propaganda. I thought it was pretty funny.

 

Joel Davis: What was the video you’re referring to?

 

Blair Cottrell: The boys posted it in one of the chats. I don’t know. And they said it was unironically good. So I checked it out. It was just titled Make America Great Again. But it was just a compilation of his speeches and stuff. Like, you probably wouldn’t find it that interesting, but it was actually a cool video.

 

But what I was going to say is I find it amusing that Biden, as we predicted last week, has dropped out of the presidential race. But Kamala Harris, sorry, …

 

Joel Davis: That isn’t confirmed. There’s just rumours. But there are rumours.

 

Blair Cottrell: I thought it was confirmed.

 

Joel Davis: No, no, no! It was just rumours. But then people from Biden’s team came out and said, so apparently Biden has Covid right now. So he’s nowhere to be seen.

 

But yeah, people from Biden’s team came out and quashed the rumours after the rumours swelled up and it seemed like, okay, this might be the end for Biden. Then they came out and said:

 

“No, he’s not stepping down.”

 

So there seems to be a power struggle. There’s a large portion of the Democrat party that are really putting maximum pressure on him, trying to make him step down. But ultimately they can’t remove him, like, he has to step down because he’s already won the primary. So he’s already got the nomination. So they actually delayed the Democrat convention by a few weeks to give themselves more time to try and make him step down and everything. So they probably will get him to step down, but who knows? He could hold on for dear life Aryan Joe.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s frustrating because I’m getting information saying:

 

“Oh, he has stepped down, or he’s going to step down.”

 

But as you’ve just described, it’s obviously a power struggle within the Democrat party over there. But I don’t know. I’ll be surprised if he sticks it out the whole way. Hopefully he does. [chuckling] I think that’ll make for an easier Trump victory.

 

But let’s be honest. I’m pretty sure Trump’s going to win the presidency now after that spectacular, incomprehensible survival of the assassination attempt! I think it’s in the bag for Trump, but that’s all I’ve got to say on it. I suppose. This is the first time I’ve appeared on camera commenting on that specific subject, but I don’t really want to get too much into it because I’m not a learnt person when it comes to American politics.

 

So all I can really do is give that sort of reaction to the process of the assassination. [chuckling]

 

[1:45:15]

 

 

Joel Davis: I want to ask you, though. Do you think it was a setup or do you think it was incompetence? I know you initially said incompetence, and I can understand why because there was a lot of evidence of incompetence, but in my opinion, that itself was probably part of the setup. Like, you put a bunch of retarded women to be not the fall guys, the fall girls and so on, so that you can sell the incompetence narrative.

 

But I think the oversight was so extensive and there’s so many weird details. Like, apparently the shooter had, like, three foreign bank accounts, and he doesn’t have any social media. Like, they’re really kind of covering up his background and then not securing the building, not even putting, like, any personnel on the building that he climbed up upon was like, a ridiculous oversight. It seemed almost too ridiculous to me.

 

And also there was that bank, that investment bank that shorted all of this stock in Donald Trump Media or whatever the day before. And they said it was a clerical error, but it seems kind of convenient. There’s a lot of dodgy shit around it that makes me suspicious. But I saw you start to get a bit more suspicious on Telegram.

 

So what’s your view on it? What percentage chance do you think it was incompetence? And what percentage chance do you think it was a setup?

 

Blair Cottrell: Initially, I did just think it was incompetence, and I put it down to too many women, or inexperienced women, specifically, as boots on the ground Secret Service members. And I did a bit of a write up on this on my Telegram channel, perhaps even on my new X account, too, which I finally got around to making, since it’s looking like I’m not going to get my original old Twitter account back, regardless of the amount of kicking and screaming that I’m doing. Which I’m not really doing a lot of kicking and screaming, that’s not really my style. What I mean is, I’m just not going to get my old account back, it seems.

 

But I put it down to just females, because women, they don’t usually do well in situations where they have to think and react quickly. And this is not really having a dig at women, but women are never actually sure of what to do. And they’re never sure of how to act or react, especially in a high stress situation. And if you’ve ever played, and this was the wording I used in my post, if you’ve ever played Call of Duty or chess against a woman, you’ll understand what I’m talking about.

 

I think the reason Trump almost got shot, or initially, I thought the reason Trump almost got shot was simply because too much time was wasted on the indecision of women. There was too many women in the decision making process, in how the Secret Service was set up, and there was too many women around Trump, at the time of the assassination attempt. And they just weren’t sure of what to do! They just weren’t sure! And it all just came down to that indecision.

 

However, after I saw that’s a Austin Wealth Group, or whatever they were called, shorted 12 million worth of Trump shares, or 12,000 Trump shares, however it actually works, I’m not sure, because I’m not an economist, I’m not someone who sits on the stock market looking at shares all day. But I know what a short is. I know that it’s betting that a stock falls and Trump stocks would have fallen, obviously. His business would have taken a massive hit if he had have been killed, obviously.

 

And then there was the shorting of Rumble from the same business entity, a business entity, Austin Wealth, which also is a major donor to Zionist and jewish groups throughout America. That’s really fucking suspicious! That indicates prior knowledge somewhere by someone, okay, that was connected to this specific group.

 

But as you said, they’re claiming that it was just a mistake, it was just a clerical error. As if! Like that you don’t make, when you’re a wealth group that big, that organised, you don’t make clerical errors that large, it just doesn’t happen!

 

So they’re covering, they’re trying to claim ignorance.

 

So I’m not actually sure at this stage. I think more information is going to come out in time, as it always does, and we’ll be in a better position to have a clearer perspective on what was actually happening on that day and leading up to that day. The lack of information about the shooter is also really interesting. There is some speculation that he was a transvestite, but I’m not sure if that’s confirmed. If he does turn out to be a member of the transgender community, that’s going to be pretty significant. [chuckling] That’s going to put members of this community who are politically active on watch lists, as they probably should be anyway, because they’re taking a plethora of drugs and they’re generally deranged as a rule. So I think most people who are transvestites and into politics should already have eyes on them.

 

But look, I won’t comment any further because I could imagine you guys have already gone into some detail before I arrived on the show, pretty much ready to move on.

 

My perspective is, initially I thought it was incompetence and just too many women in Secret Service. Now I’m starting to think that someone knew something, but I’m not sure whether that someone had enough influence to actually set it up or not. They may have just heard that something was going on and made the Right moves to try to make money out of it. Because that’s all these investment companies do when it, especially those of a judaic nature, they don’t really care who lives and who dies, and they’re not really overly invested in who lives and who dies. They’re just trying to make as much money as they can from circumstance. Right?

 

So Austin Wealth Group, them doing the shorts on the Trump shares the day before the assassination attempt. It doesn’t really indicate that they were involved, but it does indicate that someone in that company, connected to that company, knew something and they were trying to profit from it. That’s what it indicates to me.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think it’s a reasonable suspicion. It’ll be interesting because I think Trump will get in. I thought he was already kind of inevitable to win even before that, but I think it’s even more locked in now, I don’t anticipate there’s going to be a very thorough investigation now. But you would think once he gets in, he’s going to want to go after whoever the fuck killed, like, tried to kill him. You would think just based on self preservation. So you think he’d probably have a proper, a real good investigation once, …

 

Blair Cottrell: But Joel, the first thing you should do is sack the director of the Secret Service. That Kimberly woman, after she said:

 

“Oh, I didn’t put people on that roof. That was a known threat and identified a threat because there was a slope on the roof. But I did have counter-snipers on a different sloped roof.”

 

What kind of, what a fucking, … What an ignorant, …

 

Joel Davis: You could put people on the ground as well to prevent anyone climbing up there.

 

Blair Cottrell: But she needs to take this. Like, nothing against women generally, but that is just so stereotypically female to refuse to take responsibility and refuse to resign in a situation where any other person would resign. You know, you just resign.

 

Joel Davis: Do you think that’s part of the setup? Because, like, it’s too stupid! Like, even for a woman. Like, maybe it’s not too stupid for a woman. But it feels almost too stupid to me that, like, surely even she isn’t that stupid! You know what I mean?

 

Blair Cottrell: I just don’t know, …

 

Joel Davis: Then it gives you a way to be angry at the incompetent, retarded woman rather than suspecting the setup.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know. I think when it comes to women, the tendency to stubbornly, …

 

Joel Davis: I hear what [chuckling] you’re saying!

 

Blair Cottrell: Onto power just in spite of you. I think, like, we can’t underestimate them.

 

Joel Davis: Women are so bad at taking responsibility. It’s insane! I mean, it is a great point. Every time a woman takes responsibility, they always, like, spin it around to blaming you in some convoluted way.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, look, but I’m not here to, …

 

Joel Davis: You made me feel this way and yeah, …

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t want to bash on women too much. Like, we sort of give women a hard time on this show sometimes, even though women are really appreciative of us.

 

I mean, I can speak for both of you guys. Like, we have, like, got girlfriends. Everyone’s happy. We have the respect of women in our lives. So we got to take that into consideration too. Women aren’t all bad! But look, I’ve kind of just jumped on this show without, like, being prepared or actually thinking that I was going to come on tonight.

 

So I can’t really give a, how should I say, calm, detailed explanation of my take other than what I’ve given up until this point. So probably best that we just finish it there and maybe move on to the next subject, if you’re ready to do that.

 

[1:53:39]

 

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I want to talk quickly, …

 

Thomas Sewell: What’s that show called? I think it’s controlled opposition, but it’s like an Arab news network, and they always got, like, people on there with crazy rants. What’s it called? It’s not Al Jazeera, but it’s like the anti-Judah, …

 

Joel Davis: Memory TV.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Memory TV. Yeah. We’re like the Aryan version of Memory TV, where no matter what we’re talking about, somehow it devolves to, like, complaining about women or the jews.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but it’s kind of based.

 

Blair Cottrell: The feminine element of society is doing fundamental damage to our society. So it’s no wonder that we keep going on, … And when I say feminine element, I’m not necessarily always referring to women. That’s the thing. But look, we won’t open up that can of worms.

 

Thomas Sewell: He’s just referring to incompetence and weakness in general. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Blair brought it back to, like:

 

“No, no, we actually respected women!”

 

But then [chuckling] the misogyny just has to, like, exude out of him regardless. No, we respect the particular women that would be upset at us for having these opinions, but we’re just talking about all the other women.

 

All right, [chuckling] I think that’s what Blair’s trying to say.

 

Blair Cottrell: Look, at the end of the day, let me finish it with this will be the full stop. Any sensible woman would not deny that there should not be women in active, protective, defensive, military services or military stuff. Like, if you’re a sensible woman, you would agree that those are male roles, because men have a faster response time, they’re more decisive. They’re just better suited to those roles. Men will just eliminate the threat. If there’s a threat, they’ll limit it. They’ll shoot it!

 

Whereas a woman would be like:

 

“Oh, shit! Should I do it? I’m not sure. Is it the right thing? What if it’s an innocent person? What if this is the wrong decision? What should I do? Someone tell me what to do!”

 

Right? Whereas if it’s a man in that position and he’s trained, there’s a threat on that roof over there. Bang, dead!

 

Joel Davis: They actually have the caption from the Secret Service people on the stage. And the woman was quoted in the transcript as saying:

 

“What’s happening? What are we doing? What’s happening? What are we doing?”

 

And she’s like, running around, flailing while everyone else jumps on Trump, and they’re all on the floor.

 

Thomas Sewell: She hid behind Trump! Have you seen the photo of them hiding behind Trump?

 

Blair Cottrell: The wage gap!

 

Thomas Sewell: The wage gap. Yeah.

 

All right, next question.

 

Joel Davis: Yes.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s a few Superchats. Did you want to do them first? Are you doing them at the end?

 

Joel Davis: No, I’ll do at the end because we got to talk about this story, which is about Blair. Which is:

 

“So Australian censorship worsens.”

 

This is from Noticer.news. Get all your news from Noticer dot News:

 

“Australian censorship worsens as YouTube bans nationalist Blair Cottrell for travel vlog.”

 

Here’s like the thumbnail of the video. I think you can still find this video on Rumble, right, Blair? You put it on Rumble as well?

 

vv not yet. I was planning on.

 

Joel Davis: You put on Telegram. You put on Telegram?

 

Blair Cottrell: No, I think YouTube was actually the only place that was uploaded to for the time being. My plan was to kind of concentrate my forces, because that YouTube channel was four years old, and it was one that I set up just for fun, basically, just to stir shit up and for shits and gigs, but nothing overly political or edgy. Mostly gym advice, bit of reaction type video. Like, I tried that as well. I was just trying different stuff, and I didn’t expect it to get taken down. I was like:

 

“Why would they delete this channel? Like, I’m not really saying anything provocative?”

 

And I was surprised that it lasted for four years. It was paid premium.

 

If you read this article, everything in there is accurate. Noticer News reached out to me because they thought it was absurd that a YouTube channel could be just wiped after I upload a travel vlog that involves me training with some members of an Active group. There’s nothing political really said in the group. Like, in the footage, it’s all normal stuff, just guys working out in a gym. And I publicly stated that my intention was to kind of shed a little bit of light on what these guys are really like.

 

I mean, they’re just normal guys with regular jobs and families who are concerned about where their country’s going, what’s happening to their ethnic community, which is a totally normal, legitimate concern. They’re not, you know, extremist threat, neo-Nazi enemy to the country, kind of! That’s not who these guys are in reality. And I know that because a lot of them are my friends.

 

And I just wanted to make a bit of an effort to break the perception that the media has created about guys in the Right-wing. I mean, yes, some of the guys in the Right-wing can be a bit extreme, but it’s not the kind of extreme where they’re like some sort of terrorist threat. They’re just extremely dedicated to the survival of their country, their community, their culture, which is a good thing in a lot of cases. I mean we know a lot about how the phrase “extreme” is used these days. It’s used to scare people away from legitimate, dedicated, organised groups and men. Right?

 

But look, long story short, I woke up the other day, went to my first client, and on the way there I thought:

 

“Oh, I’ll listen to some music.”

 

Because I was using YouTube music, which is kind of like a Spotify alternative. If you pay for YouTube Premium, you get access to this secondary a which basically converts every video song uploaded to YouTube into its own track.

 

And so you can have a library. But I couldn’t access my music because it said, like, it wouldn’t load. And everything else was loading.

 

So I’m like, what’s going on? And then I saw that the whole YouTube channel was gone. YouTube channel was gone. Check my emails. YouTube had sent me an email saying:

 

“You have repeatedly and severely violated our community guidelines.”

 

And so I went through the appeal process. I wrote the appeal and I said:

 

“Hey, can you give me an example? One single example of how I have severely or repeatedly violated your community guidelines? Like, just one example would be great, just so I understand where you’re coming from.”

 

They replied a day later saying:

 

“Sorry, we’re not restoring your account due to violations. See you later, alligator.”

 

So they didn’t answer my question.

 

Thomas Sewell: And it’s just talking to a psychopath, you know?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. The reason this is significant, though, is because I wasn’t using that channel for anything other than humanizing members of the so-called “far-Right” Nazi groups. Like, these are real people with real legitimate concerns.

 

And as I said, I publicly stated that it was my effort to humanise these guys a little bit. It wasn’t the primary reason for which I was filming the content. I was just kind of having fun. But I slotted some of that stuff in there because I thought I might as well do something productive while I’m making content.

 

And after my very first effort to upload a single video in which I clearly show that these are just like normal guys going to the gym, they have lunch together, they train together, they have normal views. And actually, when you understand what’s happened to them in their lives, their perspectives are completely understandable.

 

After one single effort to try to do that, I’m just completely nuked! My whole account is deleted. And I’ve just got no right to ask why the appeal process is rejected straight away.

 

I also tried to get the attention of YouTube on X, formally Twitter. And I did get their attention, thanks to the help of some of the guys in the community. But it looks like I was just talking to an algorithm robot. It was just telling me:

 

“Oh, it was for circumvention.”

 

Meaning I was already banned and I was circumventing the ban. But I said the account was four years old and it was paid premium for four years, and it was under my full name. So why were you taking my money for four years if I was supposed to be banned! And the account that they said was originally banned or something. They might be referring to The Joel and Blair Show because I was a part of that program, because they’ve banned The Joel and Blair Show. Maybe that’s their idea of how I’ve circumvented their ban?

 

Joel Davis: That was the same reason they gave that my YouTube was banned. They said I was circumventing the ban of The Joel and Blair Show channel. So what? We create a channel for a separate show? The two of us do. And therefore both of our YouTube channels are circumventing that original ban, even though both of our YouTube channels predated it by several years and had lots of different content on it that had nothing to do with the show. That’s totally ridiculous!

 

Blair Cottrell: Look, the point is, I just got completely targeted and wiped from YouTube for life! Not for giving some offensive opinion, not for harassing anyone, not for actually doing anything other than to try to humanise and show the real lives, the real types of people that are on the far-Right or in the nationalist community. That’s all I was trying to do. And after my first effort to do that, I completely shut down and censored. That is eye opening, man!

 

Because a lot of effort has been put in by major media and political class, academic class, especially in my country, Australia, to vilify members of the nationalist community, to make them seem more like the “next terrorist threat”. And I’m thinking:

 

“Well, I know that’s not true, because I am a nationalist and my friends are in nationalist groups, active clubs, and there’s none of that terrorism going on.”

 

There’s none of that like planning for violence shit that they’re accused of its not actually happening! And because I tried to show that it’s not actually happening, I got censored, completely wiped! So they want and need people to believe that guys in the nationalist community are some sort of violent threat. And anyone who tries to demonstrate that that’s not true is hurting their agenda is completely wiped from the Internet.

 

That’s really eye opening. It should be eye opening. It should be concerning to you if you’re watching this.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think well said.

 

We kind of been going for a while. So I want to move on quickly to the next topic. I want to cover this and then we’ll do the Superchats. So send your Superchats now if you want a question read out.

 

But this happened. This is some of the boys in Adelaide. We were in Adelaide for Hitler’s birthday*, Tom and I, in April. And I’d met some of these guys before at other events, but some of them I hadn’t really met before or hadn’t had much of a chance to speak to. And we got a chance to hang out with them for a few days and they’re good guys.

 

[* Adolf Hitler (20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was an Austrian-born German politician who was the dictator of National Socialist Germany from 1933 until his suicide in 1945. He rose to power as the leader of the NS Party, becoming the chancellor in 1933 and then taking the title of Führer und Reichskanzler in 1934.]

 

Anyway, they did a little demonstration. And this is the clip from Seven News, Adelaide of the event. What day was this, Tom? Was it on Sunday or Monday?

 

Thomas Sewell: It was on Monday.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, Monday.

 

Thomas Sewell: A couple guys had a day off work and the other couple that were there, I think they’re uni students. So it was hard to get a full turnout because most of the guys were at work. But that’s when evil strikes when all the men are at work.

 

[2:04:39]

 

 

Joel Davis: Anyway, here’s the clip from the news.

 

 

Andrea Nicolas (7 News): There were frightening scenes here outside the council this morning as parents arrived with their children to attend the school holiday event. Expecting a backlash, the council moved Rainbow Story Time with Drag Queen Fifi Ladouche an hour earlier to 09:00 am. But protesters got wind of the time change.

 

 

Bearded Man: They’re quite happy to let children get groomed while you film me!

Gillian Aldridge (Salisbury Mayor): They all came in really bravely and I was really impressed with them all. One little boy thought they were there especially to cheer him on.

Andrea Nicolas (7 News): There was a heavy police presence as several threats sent the chambers into lockdown. No one was allowed in for several hours while demonstrators condemned the programme being run inside.

Raina Cruise: Imagine a ten year old coming and seeing a man dressed provocatively and he is, as a woman, doing Story Time, then going home and asking, mum:

“Mum, was that a boy, or a girl?”

Stuart Lindsay: We don’t approve of this and we’ll do anything we can to ensure that it stops happening.

Gillian Aldridge (Salisbury Mayor): The Story Time went beautifully. It was lovely. We sang lots of nursery rhymes and clapped our hands to show us you’re happy. It was very pleasant. The books went down really well and children had a lovely, safe time.

Andrea Nicolas (7 News): The council had received more than 100 complaints leading up to today’s event, but maintains it was about promoting diversity.

Gillian Aldridge (Salisbury Mayor): All sorts of people live in Salisbury. Where we care about them all and we include them all. And that’s what it is. We’re an inclusive community.

Andrea Nicolas (7 News): The council isn’t ruling out a similar event in future, but at this stage, there’s nothing in the calendar.

 

 

[2:06:16]

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s interestingly balanced reporting. What do you guys reckon? Like, usually they’re much harsher on the protesters and defending the transgenders in stories like this, but for once they actually went to the protesters for comment. Like, you almost never see that in media these days.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, we’ve obviously protested a lot of Drag Queen Story Hours over the last couple years and we’ve never got a fair crack at the whip like that, where, as you say, it’s pretty 50-50. Maybe it’s slightly more biased towards the state, the local council or whatever, and the event itself, but it’s not too bad.

 

And also the fact that they put images of NSNx activists with their “Destroy Pedo Freaks” banner and they don’t even mention the term “neo-Nazi” once. Oh, it’s just protesters, but they put the images up there. It’s surprisingly normalizing. But I think it indicates, like, a change in attitudes towards the tranny issue. I think the public is obviously on our side. I think pretty much everyone is on our side on this issue.

 

And according to the boys that were there, I spoke to a few of them and obviously so would Tom would have. It’s, you know, they’re part of the organisation and they said they had a really positive response from the other protesters in the community. And they had a lot of good conversation and they were basically welcomed and accepted, seemingly by the normal mums and dads that came down to protest.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think these journalists, if they are given sort of unequivocal evidence or like undeniable evidence that the community is against something, like, how long can they keep ignoring that? Eventually they have to report on it in some objective manner.

 

And hopefully the same happens for the plight of our ethnic community down here in Australia. Like, if they start to see that it’s actually happening, it’s real. The ethnic replacement of traditional Australians is real and it is concerning.

 

But we know that there’s an agenda behind it all that they’re connected to, so maybe not. But I do see a glimmer of hope there. What do you think, is this part of some repatriation? Is there like an old conservative Right-wing element sneaking back into news reporting? I know that you’ve probably spoken about this.

 

Thomas Sewell: No.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t think being against trannies, grooming children is conservative or Right-wing. It’s just basically the opinion of pretty much everyone in society bar a fringe group of freaks that have somehow captured the government, …

 

Thomas Sewell: A [word unclear] majority of Labor Party. That freak. How freaky was that lady? That was the stuff of nightmares!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, she [Mayor] looks like a tranny herself.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, she did. She sold her soul. She was very, very disturbing. The energy. I got very bad vibes.

 

But there was there was a couple speeches made by the boys at the rally, and the audience was very supportive. So the other protesters, the other people that came down, they were, yeah, cheering, clapping. We handed out hundreds of little leaflets explaining what had happened. And a lot of there was a lot of positive commentary, people supporting the NSN presence.

 

So I think to answer your question, Blair, is this like a Right-wing influence creeping into the media? I don’t think so. I think it’s more your first point that at a certain point, it becomes impossible to be disingenuous.

 

I mean, they could try harder, sure, but maybe Seven News Adelaide’s not as hard working as, or as jewish as Seven News Melbourne. That’s probably one. You know, Adelaide is like a big country town, so they’re probably a little bit more objective and a little bit more honest with their reporting. Although they’ve negatively put us in the press in the past.

 

The fact that the NSN, the radical Spearhead of the anti-trans agenda, and then the more conservative and reasonable and also older people, they’re mostly elderly people, are there with the NSN, with the sort of youthful revolutionary vanguard. It is hard for the media to just say, how can the media sit there and say, even though we are actually National Socialists, we are Nazis, the media would struggle to, … Well, it’s not that they would struggle. But imagine, the other version of that news release is the media saying:

 

“And then neo-Nazis counter-protested it!”

 

And, yeah, there is footage of us being there, but then a lot of the footage they would have to use would have, like, elderly people, like grandmas and grandpas saying:

 

“This is unacceptable! I don’t think that this should happen. This shouldn’t be in front of children!”

 

Blair Cottrell: It wouldn’t make sense.

 

Thomas Sewell: It would seem ridiculous!

 

And then the average person on the street or the average person at home on the couch watching it would be like:

 

“Wait a minute, I’m against Drag Queen sore. Am I a Nazi as well? Does the media define me as a Nazi?”

 

And all that would ultimately do on a long enough timeline is create more support for the Nazis.

 

So if they have any hope of holding onto the centre, the smart political decision is to almost kind of just pretend we weren’t there. Yeah, like when we’re together with the broadhead, when we’re together with the community. Maybe the best thing is to just ignore our presence instead of labeling everyone that’s there as a Nazi. Maybe that tactics not working anymore.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it’s a good point. Definitely!

 

[2:11:54]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: The other thing that was on the leaflet that they handed out was an explanation of the name of the transvestite, the “Fifi Ladouche”. So it’s quite, quite disturbing. “Fifi” had some sort of sexual meaning to it. And then Ladouche, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s what they call a, … How can I say this without seeming vulgar?

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, it’s very vulgar, but, yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: When the guys are in jail and they’re trying to make what replicates female genitalia for their own private purposes, they do it out of kitchen gloves and moisturizer. They call it “a Fifi”. Yeah, that’s what that’s called. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Well, that’s what was explained in the, … Which I didn’t even know, maybe because I was in solitary confinement!

 

But the other thing, obviously, everyone knows what a douche is and yeah. So what a fucking disturbing name for a child performer, even if they weren’t a transvestite. And the connotations around transvestites getting sex change operations and cutting their penises off and having it inverted into a fake vagina and then needing to douche their vagina every day. Because it’s not a vagina, it’s their fucking anus! It’s like an inverted penis.

 

And then someone called “Fifi Ladouche” is then reading children’s books in front of children. It just keeps getting more and more sickening! And then the boys also said that there was a few mums that came down with their kids and, yeah, the guys just did everything they could to just get in their face and call them disgusting, for what they were doing. But the police were pretty aggressive once they got close to the people coming down.

 

So, imagine the kind of person that brings their small child to visit it. I mean, it’s the ultimate prayer at the altar of Satan, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s very subversive, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, your husband’s at work and then you go down there with your six year old who’s on school holidays or whatever, your eight year old, to go look at a fucking transvestite sex performer! Like, it’s just so messed up!

 

Like these people should be, as Sam Hyde said, as a minimum, you know, it should be electroshock therapy and camps. We got to put these people in camps. That’s the bare minimum rational thing to do.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I think it is. It’s egregiously subversive, too. I’ll just add the fact that they expose themselves to children not just physically, but the words they’re using to describe themselves. The names have strong sexual connotations or are kind of like nicknames, replacement words for genitalia or sex acts. And they’re using those names that, to children, would just seem like playful, fun names. But the children don’t realise, the parents, too, in their naivety and their ignorance, don’t realise that they’re exposing their children to subversive sexual conotations. You know, so that’s part of the grooming process. It’s a very egregious subversion. Very obvious.

 

Joel Davis: So this is some of the video just to get a feel for the event without Seven News images, what the boys did, I thought, I’ll play some of these.

 

NSN Protestors: Ladies and gentlemen, we, of the National Socialist Network, advocate due process and the death penalty for paedophiles! Put to death! Paedophiles! Put to death! Paedophiles! Put to death! Paedophiles! Put to death! Paedophiles!

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that Jimon Roberts Adelaide edition? [chuckling] It’s kind of that sort of energy, isn’t it?

 

NSN Protestors: Paedophiles! Put to death! Paedophiles! Put to death!

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s funny because they butt heads all the time and, like, they’re always staunching each other, but they’re the same person, like, in different form.

 

Blair Cottrell: Which is why they’re staunching each other. Right? [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, that’s funny.

 

Joel Davis: So anyway, to give you an idea that it’s quite staunch that he’s chanting:

 

“Paedophiles put to death! Pedophiles put to death!”

 

And then [chuckling] later the community is like:

 

“Okay, these guys seem kind of cool.”

 

And they seem to be willing to get leaflets and have a chat.

 

[Locals cheering and applauding]

 

NSN member: So we’ve come here from the NSN to protest against the paedophilia that’s happening in this library. Unfortunately, they’ve taken the time back, so we have not been able to encounter the paedophile.

 

Male: He’s got to leave. He’s got to leave. He has to leave.

 

NSN member: He’s in this building, there is a groomer. Grooming children! We can’t [words unclear] And the police here are protecting this paedophile.

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s a line in there. There’s a line in there what one of the guys says, and it just demonstrates how effective this kind of activism is at generating an appeal, or a pipeline to mainstream Australian workers, because the guy literally just says:

 

“Yeah, I don’t like pedos either!”

 

And basically what he’s saying is:

 

“There’s a group of nazis over there. They don’t like paedophiles. Yeah, I don’t like paedophiles either. I’ll join these guys!”

 

That’s [chuckling] basically what the tone of that suggested.