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Ernst Zundel – Another Voice of Freedom Radio – Why World War II Started – 1994 – Transcript

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Ernst Zundel

Another Voice of Freedom Radio

Why World War II Started

Wed, Jun 15, 1994

[In this audio recording Ernst Zundel gives a brief “laymans” summary of why WW2 started. Key points:

Introduction to Voice of Freedom broadcast, hosted by Ernst Zundel

[1:30] Overview of Germany’s situation after World War I, including reparations and hyperinflation:

“Germany was condemned to pay reparations, huge amounts of reparations which were to only run out in the year 1988.”

[3:30] Rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party through democratic means

[5:00] International boycott called against Germany shortly after Hitler came to power

[6:30] Germany’s economic crisis and rumours of potential invasions by France or Poland

[8:00] Reichstag fire and Hitler’s implementation of emergency measures:

“Hitler used this as his means of introducing draconian repressive measures inside Germany ”

[10:00] Comparison to Canada’s use of the War Measures Act in 1970

[12:00] Hitler’s governance and Germany’s economic recovery in the 1930s:

“Hitler made Germany prosper. He made the trains run on time.”

[14:30] Hitler’s opposition to Communism and Bolshevism:

“Adolf Hitler was a strong opponent of Marxism. He considered it almost like an evil religion.”

[16:30] Germany’s actions leading up to World War II, including the invasion of Poland

[18:00] Hitler’s pre-emptive strike against the Soviet Union:

“Hitler knew that he was not strong enough to just merely defend himself against Russia.”

[20:00] Comparison of Hitler’s tactics to Israel’s actions in the 1967 Six-Day War

[22:00] Germany’s initial success against the Soviet Union and subsequent challenges

[24:00] European volunteers fighting alongside German forces:

“Europe’s men, we have to remember that the Hungarians, the Slovakians, the many Polish volunteers, Ukrainian volunteers, Danish, Dutch volunteers…”

[26:00] Framing of Germany’s actions as defending Europe against Bolshevism:

“The Germans defended Europe and European style civilisation against Soviet Bolshevism.”

Closing remarks.

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Audio recorded in 1994

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Ernst Zundel: You are listening to Another Voice of Freedom broadcast financed through the free will donations of listeners like yourself. I’m Ernst Zundel, your host and moderator. The opinions expressed by our guests or in editorials and stories are always those of the originators. We believe that personal opinions freely expressed are not a danger to any democratic society. We don’t have to agree with any or all of the opinions expressed by others. We owe it to ourselves, however, to listen, to evaluate, and to possibly learn something new or different in the process. You may reach us at 206 Carlton Street Toronto, Ontario, Canada, M5A 2L1. Telephone 1492-29850 [Note: All contact details out of date].

And now we have another interesting program for you.

I’m Ernst Zundel with Another Voice of Freedom program. A number of our listeners from around the country, and some even as far away as Europe, have contacted us about our recent programs relating to D-Day and the period in Europe after D-Day, and some of our revisionist viewpoints that we hold on this topic. Well, some of them complained that I, in my programs had not spelled out in more detail what the Second World War was all about and how it came about.

So let me try to give it a layman’s overview. Nothing academic, just a layman’s overview. The Germans in the First World War were defeated by a coalition of forces, and the German government under the Weimar Republic was asked to sign a treaty in Versailles. And one of the stipulations of that treaty was that the Germans had to declare themselves solely responsible for the First World War.

And of course, with the loss of Germany’s territories in the east, coupled with this slap in the face for the entire German nation, who knew that they had not been solely responsible for this tragedy, which was the First World War. This meant there was a fertile soil for nationalists, or even extreme nationalists to agitate against the existing order of things.

Germany, you must understand, was under some form of Allied tutelage, was under military occupation in some regions. Germany was condemned to pay reparations, huge amounts of reparations which were to only run out in the year 1988! I want to repeat that these massive billions of dollars worth of gold marks of reparations the Germans were to pay to the Allies, were to be running till the year 1988. That was reparations the Germans had to pay for the First World War.

The reason why I’m stressing that is because, of course, it bankrupted the German nation, led to hyperinflation where people were paid three times a day, mornings, noon and night, because the money devalued between breakfast and lunch, sometimes by millions of marks!

And so when men were receiving their paycheck, they didn’t go and bring a wallet at the end of the week, they usually brought a basket.

And finally, some of the store and shop owners paid their people every single evening, because hyperinflation was running away with the currency in Germany.

My own mother, a very simple young girl, said that she worked for a whole month and at the end of the month, all she could buy with her earnings for that month in 1923, was a stamp with which to send a postcard to her parents. That is what the situation was!

In that situation, Adolf Hitler, a very gifted young orator in Germany, started his struggle for power. And he struggled against those who had signed this shameful treaty in Versailles and against those who had imposed it on Germany. And he found increasing resonance amongst the German population. At first the working people, finally an ever increasing number amongst Germany’s students, then amongst the more middle classes, and finally even amongst the intelligentsia, meaning Professors, doctors, dentists, lawyers and so on.

Then Adolf Hitler democratically moved into the Reichstag, and because his party was the party that had Garnered most votes in a coalition with other nationalist forces, finally became the government of Germany in 1933, on 30 January.

While Hitler was struggling for power, he had said over and over in thousands of speeches and talks and articles in his party newspaper and so on, and many of his Members of Parliament, the Reichstag at that time said to the German population:

“Understand that a vote for National Socialism does not mean a change of government in Germany.”

In other words, it’s not a change of administration. It’s not the Democrats being replaced by the Republicans, or in the Canadian context, the Liberals replacing the Conservatives. He said:

“What you are doing with this election, it is a plebiscite on which way Germany is going to go.”

In other words, there are going to be some fundamental changes in German society. And he had outlined them to the German population quite openly and quite freely, what he thought Germany should look like in the 1930s. The Germans were not sucked into or conned into voting for yet another politician who had made all kinds of promises that he wasn’t going to keep.

My own mother and my own father, who had been unemployed for four years by the time Adolf Hitler finally did come to power, said that they had tried the Conservatives, they had voted for the Catholic Party, the Christian Center Party, they had even voted for the Social Democratic Party. Other Germans, disgusted by all this party wrangling voted for the Communist Party.

And there was a polarization of political opinion and political action and the political spectrum in Germany in the 1930s between the extreme Left and, yes, the extreme nationalist Right.

Hitler represented the Right, the forces of the Right, and together with a number of smaller parties, finally did form the government, as I said. And he was hardly in power when an international boycott was called against Germany.

And the reason why I’m mentioning this is because in the next few programs, we are going to take a look exactly at what happened in “Nazi Germany”, the way the popular press calls it, or National Socialist Germany, in Hitler’s Germany after he came to power.

[07:46]

Let me just say to you that in studying this period of time, I found that Germany was in a terribly shocking state! And that, for instance, in the state of Thuringia, which is in the east, the budget for social welfare was two thirds of the state’s budget was eaten up by social welfare. Two thirds. You can imagine, that means so many people were unemployed, were on the dole, were half employed and so on. A state cannot function with this kind of budget. And so a crisis was looming large in Germany.

Also, the foreign currency reserves of Germany had gone down to such a level that when the German economics minister mentioned this to the new government, Hitler was alarmed. It was down to some 480 million marks, which, for a trading nation like Germany that depended on financing exports and so on, it was virtually the death knell. Germany was, to all intents and purposes, bankrupt!

How to get out of this situation was what dominated the mind of the new government. And during this particular time, there were rumors around the world that they were going to be preventive wars. There was going to be an invasion of Germany either by France or by Poland or by both governments.

Now, at the time, these two countries were, in a European context, superpowers. You must understand that the Treaty of Versailles condemned the German government to a force of professional soldiers of 100,000 people, just 100,000 men! That meant the entire German armed forces could fit into the Berlin soccer stadium.

Now, picture that. The Berlin soccer stadium. The only weapons that they had were machine guns. When they were practicing with tanks, they were bicycles with cardboard cutouts made to look like tanks. Because Germany was the only totally disarmed country and it was forced to disarm under the Treaty of Versailles. Hitler knew all this. In other words, he was in absolutely no position to threaten anybody! Others were threatening his government.

And suddenly there were these news from North America that the jewish community in North America was Calling for an international boycott against Germany! There was a man called Samuel Untermeyer, who had gone to Amsterdam for a conference. And when he returned to the United States, he gave a nationally broadcast radio program in which he called for a holy war against Germany, a national boycott.

And naturally, Hitler’s ambassadors and consular officials reported that back to Germany. So did the media. Hitler was alarmed! Here was the threat of military invasion, economic strangulation. Inside Germany the communists were restive. And so Hitler did what other German Chancellors had done before him, perfectly Democratic measure to call out some kind of an Emergency Measures Act. In Canada, we would call it the War Measures Act.

Into this period fell a fire that was started by apparently a communist, or a man with communist leadings called Van der Lubbe, who tried to burn down the Reichstag, meaning the German Parliament. Apparently as some kind of a note to other Leftists, to start simultaneously all over Germany similar activities and to try to have an overthrow of the German government.

Now, I know that in Allied propaganda, Hermann Goering is supposedly himself having carried a canister of gasoline through some secret tunnels into the Reichstag, and he’s supposed to have had a kind of a hand in burning down the Reichstag. Well, perfectly independent people and historical commissions and inquiries by independent historians during, before, during and after the war have come to the conclusion that, in effect, the Nazis did not torch the Reichstag! That it was a canard put out by communist and Leftist propaganda.

Hitler used this as his means of introducing draconian repressive measures inside Germany, outlawing political parties, political movements, arrest without habeas corpus and so on. It was a typical emergency measure act!

Now, I want you immediately to understand this is not to excuse Adolf Hitler and him breaking the civil rights of Germans. I am just trying to explain to you that this is nothing new in European history, certainly absolutely nothing new of the period. And in Canada, as late as 1972, we had what they called “the invoking of the War Measures Act”.

Actually, it was earlier still, during the FLQ crisis, the Front des Liberation Qui Pequoi, which was a Leftist group that was blowing up mailboxes, the stock market building and so on. And the Canadian government, in perfect peacetime, prosperous, not surrounded by enemies that were trying to invade our country here, imposed a War Measures Act. I lived there during the time in Quebec, and I can assure you here is what happened.

Hundreds, many, many, many hundreds of French-Canadian activists who had been politically vocal in wanting to have separation between Quebec and the rest of the country were rounded up at night. 4:00, 5:00, 3:00 o’clock in the morning. And they were arrested without any legal representation. They were put into sports arenas, meaning concentrated into the same kind of area that Hitler would take his dissidents and so on in the early 30s.

They were kept in there. Some of them were kept in jails in Canada without having the rights that we normally have to be brought before a judge speedily and so on, because the War Measures act had declared a national emergency, saying that there was imminent danger to the survival of Canada as a society and as a state. And then your civil rights went out the window.

Well, that’s exactly what happened to Germans in the Hitler era, as soon as Adolf Hitler came to power, because there was this perceived threat to the German state, the overthrow of the German government. And Hitler invoked what he called the Enabling Act, where he spelled out what his moves were going to be.

And so Germany, that moment, became somewhat of a dictatorship. True, there were elections and there were plebiscites later on, but ultimately, Hitler governed Germany under this kind of draconian enabling legislation, which allowed him to forbid parties and movements and seize newspapers, outlaw publishing houses and stuff like this, very much the way the West German state has been doing in the last six to seven months.

[15:26]

And again, Germany has no threat of invasion. Germany has no threat that the state is going to be overthrown. Yet the ruling clique in power in Germany says:

“Oh, we have got political dissidents here that are getting entirely too testy. They are having these big marches of 4, 5, 10,000 people. Our police forces can no longer control them, meaning they cannot cow them into silence. And even 10,000 policemen last fall could not prevent a march in honor of Rudolf Hess, for instance. And so therefore, we are going to pass this draconian legislation.”

Which they tried to do recently on the 20th of June with their what they call crime bill. But the German Parliament, at that time, the Upper House, at least voted down this draconian law.

Well, in Hitler’s Germany they did not, because National Socialism at that time, as I said, had the superior numbers. And so Germany began to rebuild under those measures with limited freedoms, restricted freedom of expression. And Hitler managed by all kinds of means, which we are going to cover in future programs, to prevent the invasion by France and by Poland, to prevent the boycott from crippling and destroying the German economy. And Adolf Hitler and his government went on and governed Germany in peace time for another six years.

And by the year 1936, we are able already to absorb all the millions and millions of unemployed in Germany and the surrounding countries. Two million people worked as guest workers in Germany in 1937 and 38, at a time when the rest of Europe was, and America, may I say, and Canada was still very much suffering under a depression!

Hitler’s Germany was like a beautifully tended garden surrounded by a bunch of gardens full of weeds.

And of course, the envy of the people who tilled the gardens, meaning the governments of the particular day, was rife everywhere! Not the people. For instance, Hitler had this program where he was going to [actually did] send hard working miners and farmers and so on these cruise ships to distant places in North Africa, in Egypt, in Greece or in Norway.

And it was such a hit with the working people of Europe that ordinary people could actually go on cruises that England forbade the landing of these German cruise ships in British ports! Because rather than giving their own working people such a break, they found it much easier just to restrict German ships from landing and not getting British workers envious.

What I’m saying to you is Hitler made Germany prosper! He made the trains run on time. Things hummed in Germany. Germany broke all kinds of records on the ground, in the air, with cars, with planes. National Socialist Germany in peacetime was a progressive, thriving country. And the people that lived there during that particular time apparently kind of allowed this restricted freedom that they couldn’t have different opinions and so on. They traded social security, financial security, bread and butter stuff over freedom.

It has always troubled me that that’s the way it was, but that’s the way it was. I personally am far more of a believer in individualism and freedom than that particular generation. But the Germans, after all, if the majority does rule by their majority, and by constantly reaffirming Hitler in power and his government decided that was the way they were perfectly willing to live, who am I to say in 1994 that they didn’t have the right to do that?

Now, why did the war break out? Because apparently Hitler was a sworn enemy of Marxism, Communism, then called Bolshevism. And Europe had these Bolshevik uprisings, especially in Hungary, Romania. Also in the east, especially in Russia, where a lot of blood was spilled, where hundreds of thousands, millions we know today, tens of millions of people were butchered in the most gruesome way, worked to death in the Gulag, worked to death while building canals through mosquito infested swamps and so on.

Today, now that the archives are open and the mass graves are being found in the Crimea and in the Ukraine and in Russia proper. Mass graves that hold 200, 240, 300,000 people and we have only just scratched the surface.

So the Bolsheviks who were in the east, armed to the teeth, had always said that they believed in world revolution and they were appealing to the workers around the world in uprising after uprising.

I know, I’ve got a book in my bookshelves here about a communist uprising in Brazil. Then we had the communist uprising in Spain. It was known at that time in Europe that communism was a huge threat to Western values and Western civilization.

Adolf Hitler was a strong opponent of Marxism. He considered it almost like an evil religion. And when President Ford, and later on much more so President Reagan and President Nixon before them had certain anti-communist statements made, President Reagan was the one that coined the phrase “the evil empire”. Well, let me tell you, Adolf Hitler had called Bolshevism and the Soviet Union “an evil empire” already in 1920s! And had initiated policies to contain the evil empire in the late 1930s. Making what he called the anti-Comintern pact with Italy, Japan and Germany.

[22:05]

And he also knew from his intelligence services that Russia [Soviet Union], armed to the teeth as they were, were pulling together troops at the Eastern border.

And so he knew that they were going to attack Germany and Western Europe. How did he know? Because the German armed forces and the German spy system against communism worked. They had lots and lots of ethnic Europeans in the east who were siding with the German government. And so their information was excellent!

But when Hitler finally ended up in this terrible tragedy with Poland, which France and England used as a declaration, as the reason for a declaration of war against Germany, Hitler knew that he had to quickly finish the continental powers in a kind of a pre-emptive quick strike in order to keep his back free, because he knew that the Soviet Union was arming and ready and rearing to go and invade Germany from the East. Germany didn’t have enough land, enough depth, geopolitically speaking, geographically speaking, to absorb the massive invasion forces which were then beginning to build up on her Eastern Frontier.

And so, luckily for Germany, France was subdued quickly, Holland and Belgium also. And Hitler could now turn his attention to the east. By now, his air force, using the very latest in technology, high altitude planes, quite similar to the later the very famous U2 spy planes which Francis Gary Powers used to fly over the Soviet Union. Hitler had similar planes, not quite as sophisticated, of course, but he could penetrate with his reconnaissance airplanes, flying at tremendously high altitudes for the first time using pressurized cabins, way into the heartland of Russia.

How do we know it? Because we have books about it. One man has been on my mailing list for three decades. His name is George Pemler. George Pemler, P E M L E R. He has written a book called, Der Flug zum Don, published by Drufel publishing house in Germany, in which he details and shows with all kinds of photographs the massive build-up of Soviet forces on the German border.

And so Hitler knew that he was not strong enough to just merely defend himself against Russia. And so they decided to pre-emptorily strike at the build-up of the Soviet forces very much the way Israel did in a repeat policy. And many people said, using a copycat plan against the Arab world in 1967 with exactly the same results. The Israelis attacked air fields in Egypt, in Syria and in other places, in Jordan, destroying the planes on the ground. They attacked missile batteries, destroying them on the ground.

And once they were silenced, then the ground forces, Israel’s tank forces, could sweep through the desert, driving the Arab forces before them into the desert. And ultimately Israel scored a stunning defeat in a very, very short war called the Six Day War.

Hitler’s forces did exactly the same thing in 1941 in the east. And the German air force that was opposed by over 14,000 Soviet planes knocked down over 12,500 planes or bombed them underground within the first two weeks of the war. The German air force at that time had less than 4,000 3,750 planes. The same could be said for ground forces, tank forces and so on. It was not German massive armor that won this. It was superior German generalship and planning. And also the elandes, the spirit of the German troops.

However, they were unable to deliver a knockout blow against the Soviet Union, which the world had expected. Basically, we know today because of treason in German ranks! Treason was the reason for Hitler not winning the war against the Soviet Union. And this is why Germany got stuck in the east!

And this is why these huge battles of attrition in Stalingrad, where over 300,000 German men marched into Stalingrad and where only 6,000 of them came back after the Second World War from Stalin’s Gulag. 96,000 prisoners were taken. About 90,000 of them vanished!

And you wonder why there were so few planes, so few troops, so few tanks in the West. Well, I tell you, they were in the east defending Europe, Western Europe against the Soviet onslaught, against the hordes of the evil empire, as President Reagan would have called it.

And so Europe’s men, we have to remember that, the Hungarians, the Slovakians, the many Polish volunteers, Ukrainian volunteers, Danish, Dutch volunteers. Alone in Denmark, four times as many people were serving in the SS in the German armed forces of Danish nationality than were serving in the Danish armed forces and police! This is an incredible statistic which very few people know.

[See: The Epic Story of the Waffen SS – Leon Degrelle]

So Hitler’s Germany was defending Europe’s interest in the east. And this is why the Allies had such an easy time in the West. This is why the there were only 270 operational tanks and only 375 planes to meet the Allies’ 12,000 planes in the West. They were bleeding to death in the east for Europe. And so look at it in the context of a German or of Germany. The Germans defended Europe and European style civilization against Soviet Bolshevism.

And so this was the reason that I should have given you before we went into Normandy.

However, the next series of programs that you’re going to hear have to do largely with Israel and German jewish relations. And I think it is timely because very, very little has been said about this period in history and the German side of it.

I am Ernst Zundel speaking for The Voice of Freedom. Yes, I am a son of the Germans using the facilities of North American radio stations and the freedom guaranteed to me by the United States, Constitution, by the Canadian Bill of Rights, or the other way around, to bring you dissident or different information. And all I’m asking you is. You don’t have to believe me. Just open up your mind to our German viewpoint and our Germans.

We are located at 206 Carlton street in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Our postal code is M5A 2L1. Our telephone 416-922-9850 [Note: All contact details out of date]. Thank you very much.

Ernst Zundel here thanking you for your support.

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ANC Report Holocaust Debate: Eric Hunt vs Fritz Berg 2017 — TRANSCRIPT

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[Ryan Dawson of the Anti-NeoCon Report hosts a long (nearly 4 hours) and often heated debate between Eric Hunt and Fritz Berg on what happened to all the “missing” jews during the alleged “Holocaust” of WWII.

Eric Hunt, a producer of revisionist videos, in an unexpected change of conviction has recently revised his own revisionist views and now believes that in fact, jews and others were mass murdered in gas chambers and also shot in large numbers in the East.

Fritz Berg strongly supports the revisionist position that no homicidal gassings occurred what-so-ever and that any shootings of jews in the East were legitimate actions taken against partisans and their supporters — KATANA.]

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Here is the full Hunt/ Fritz debate on the Holocaust. This is for ANC members This debate is specifically on the question of transit camps and gas chambers. If there were transit camps, then where are the records of where all these prisoners said to have shipped east ended up? If there were gas chambers…

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http://www.ancreport.com/podcast/holocaust-debate-eric-hunt-vs-fritz-berg/

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Questioning “The Holocaust” (Eric Hunt’s website):

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Holocaust Debate – Eric Hunt vs Friedrich Berg – Parts 4 of 4

ANC Report

Holocaust Debate

Eric Hunt vs Fredrick Berg

Published on Feb 26, 2017

TRANSCRIPT

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Ryan: What I thought was going to be a one hour debate, or planned, ended up being about three and a half hours.

OK, this is Ryan Dawson of ANC Report, the Anti Neo-con Report. We’re usually covering the antiwar thing, the anti neo-con material. We often get into “hidden history” and sometimes conspiracy, … Not that wacky Jonestown kind. But today’s topic is one of the more taboo, if not the most taboo topic on the Interwebs, and that’s the “Holocaust“. There’s a lot of exaggerations in both directions about the “Holocaust“. Over exaggerating it, maybe under exaggerating it.

And we have two revisionists on today, one revisionist is Eric Hunt who’s been on the program before. He has recanted some of his views and he will be explaining that. And here to debate him is Fritz Berg, or Friedrich Paul Berg of the website, Nazi Gassings dot com. Also Eric Hunt’s web site, Questioning the Holocaust dot com. And you can see his long, well recanting on that, as well as other information.

So gentleman, I’m going to give you guys the floor. Hopefully I won’t have to jump in too much. I do want to make it clear to everyone that the point of this is to get at the truth where this is never supposed to be something dogmatic and I hope people will refrain from accusations, saying somebody is anti German, or anti-jewish. The idea here is just to get at the truth of the matter, based on the best evidence available.

So Eric, I will start with you, because you were a revisionists who is now revised your revisions and you’re catching some flak for that. So I’ll let you explain your position and then I’ll let Fritz respond.

Eric: All right, thanks. First up I’d like to thank Fritz Berg for agreeing to debate. Fritz has never been afraid to defend his views and has debated Roberto Muehlenkamp, who accepts the garssing claims and has repeatedly asked to debate revisionist Fred Leuchter. Surprisingly it’s the revisionists like Leuchter, dodging the debate, not those defending the claims of mass gassing and shooting such as Muehlenkamp. I recommend for listeners to listen to the Berg-Muehlenkamp debates. It is my opinion Mr Muehlenkamp presents entirely logical arguments and overwhelming evidence in favor of mass gassings having occurred. We will likely not be repeating many of the same arguments from those debates here today.

Fritz has and is operating in the supposed spirit of the revisionists who claim to desire open debate on the Holocaust and Fritz should be commended. It’s very telling that no other top revisionist scholars, as they claim, has so far agreed to debate me upon publishing my controversial findings in an article titled “The End Of The Line” available to read at: Questioning the holocaust dot com. This exposes the hypocrisy of those claiming they simply desire open debate on the subject. I put forward that this clique of SS mass murder deniers instead want to spread their extreme, indefensible, illogical denialist falsehoods in their safe little echo chambers. I’ve determined the behavior of this community is more consistent with a religious cult like the Jonestown cult you mentioned in your opening, than something claiming to be related to science. And I’m hoping to tell people listening not to drink the Kool-Aid.

For those who claim to oppose censorship, both Fritz and I have been banned from the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust forums. I have determined even before coming to this conclusion that [that forum] is paradoxically the most closed forum which claims to debate the “Holocaust“. And I have heard Fritz say the same throughout the years. I want to make it clear I’m not here to totally put down, or insult revisionists. One reason revisionists haven’t been debated more often is, because the “Holocaust Industry”, as Norman Finkelstein calls them, really does engage in many hoaxes. “Mini”, I meant to say, mini hoaxes, small hoaxes, propaganda, exaggeration and willingly spreading falsehoods. The blind believers repeatedly defend indefensible and scientifically impossible eyewitness accounts. Often these accounts are forced upon the American public, especially on naive schoolchildren.

[Image] An illustration of one of Elie Weisel’s sadistic tall tales as described in his mostly fictional book, “Night“.

I’d like to talk briefly about some of the things I’ve done and what I stand behind. Elie Weisel’s fictional tale of walking to the edge of a flaming pit of fire at the entrance of Auschwitz Birkenau, where dump trucks full of babies were dumped alive for no reason other than dramatic effect, during that titular night, is forced upon naive school children.

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These children don’t know the flaming pit never existed, as all eyewitnesses confirm, including Weisel’s own sister. The fire and atrocity invention is just a lame literary device by a Jewish poet to represent entering into the hell of Auschwitz.

My exposé on Steven Spielberg’s 1999 Academy Award winning “Holocaust” documentary, “The Last Days” is one for the ages, which I’m very proud of. To investigate in particular that film star survivor, Irene Zisblatt’s false testimony, I did what any skeptical researcher should do. I investigated her claims, bought her book and read it. I found the book to be almost total fiction and saw ways to prove it. I followed the evidence trail to Stanford University to watch her video testimony, recorded for Steven Spielberg’s Survivors of the Showa a Visual History Foundation. In this video testimony Zisblatt seems to invent in real time new fake atrocity stories, one after the other. Zisblatt claims she was selected to become a lampshade, because of her smooth skin! She claims the Nazis tried to change the color of her eyes. Zisblatt claims that Dr Mengele removed her Auschwitz tattoo in excruciating experiments. Despite being on a list of Jews quickly transited through Auschwitz to other labor camps, never given a tattoo. Zisblatt claims to have escaped from inside Auschwitz Birkenau Crematoria III gas chamber. She claims a boy then threw her over an electrified barbed wire fence, naked, onto a train where she escaped. That train would have been at least one hundred feet away from the fence.

Zisblatt’s calling card claim of repeatedly defecating and swallowing diamonds for a year and a half pales in comparison to her other outrageous lies! Steven Spielberg produced other falsehoods in that Oscar winning documentary, including featuring a discredited African American soldier who already falsely claimed to have liberated Dachau in a previous propaganda film, “Liberators”, which was withdrawn from public airing, as a hoax. As a result of sharing Zisblatt’s testimony to the world, rather than have the evidence looked at in a major examination of this outrageous false testimony, shown to children and even the US Congress, I was instead banned from Stanford University libraries!

The “Last Days” and the refusal of any mainstream journalist, or film reviewer to expose the documentary as a fraud is an example of why I there are so many skeptical of the Holocaust, of the larger holocaust claims. The “Last Days” stands as a testament to human gullibility. The film is a high watermark to represent the incredible falsehoods some of the most powerful people on earth have disseminated. Taking advantage of the general public’s ignorance and good nature, the silence from those in academia and media is deafening. And demonstrates their role in helping to sweep inconvenient, embarrassing Holocaust related truth under the rug.

I started out investigating and exposing things I stand by today. However, I never really doubted that all the lying about aspects of their experiences in outrageous fashions, Wiesel and Zisblatt were, in fact, separated forever from their mothers and younger siblings at Auschwitz. Seeing the many absurd falsehoods of the Holocaust industry on the world stage, disseminated and covered up by those at the highest levels of media and academia, I was willing to see where the revisionist trail of evidence went. After all, the revisionist weren’t covering up the absurdities of these lying, or exaggerating eyewitnesses, or repeating wildly inflated Soviet propaganda death tolls.

Just recently the number of five million non jewish victims claimed by Simon Wiesenthal as a means to increase Gentile sympathy for Jewish Holocaust victims, has been jettisoned by the Holocaust industry in a spectacular way. This was, because in a statement issued on Holocaust Remembrance Day, President Trump declared sympathy for all victims of the Nazi concentration forced labor and extermination camps, not Jews alone. Those Holocaust scholars who have known of Wiesenthal’s falsehoods did not speak up very loudly about it, until the President dared to declare nearly equal the suffering of all nationalities during World War Two.

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As we know, Simon Wiesenthal lied about which camps he was in and has been known to spread falsehoods and [was] willing to disseminate big lies such as his claim of five million non-jewish Holocaust victims. As long as there is a Simon Wiesenthal Center, I can’t really accept much shame or embarrassment over what I’ve done. As I know, one day even the mainstream will look upon the lies of Wiesel and Spielberg and Zisblatt and realize that a great injustice was done to me as a young investigative journalist unafraid to expose politically incorrect truth.

In many ways I’m still, quote, a “revisionist.” There are many changes required to bring the accepted history closer to the gray-zone reality resides in. Now I’ve played a small part in this. But after extensively studying the evidence, looking at both sides, visiting the locations of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Majdanek, Trawniki and Babi Yar, I am not a denier of SS mass-murder via poison gas and bullets at these sites.

In the past, the more extreme mask I wore as a Holocaust denier, was partially in order to move what is called the “Overton Window”, to gain concessions from the Holocaust promotion industry still telling lies big and small. I always had doubts about those denying SS mass murder, as anyone claiming to use scientific method should. I want to make clear, I never acted in bad faith. I genuinely believed the extreme falsehoods in the testimonies, such as Wiesel and Zisblatt, and the promotion of these lies could possibly reveal the hoax on a larger scale. There’s an entire journalist and academic class either in fear of, or willingly covering up these miniature hoaxes.

As I continued to investigate, push into areas of research I avoided for a long time, I realized those who deny mass gassings and mass murder by bullets were entirely wrong, based on the evidence and their own illogical alternate explanations, all the evidence, documents, photographs, eyewitness testimony, archaeological investigations, physical evidence and more, demonstrates, the mass gassing and shooting of Jews at the sites we will focus on today. There are zero eyewitnesses who worked at the extermination camps in question who deny mass gassings. There are zero witnesses who claim thousands of Jews were not mass murdered by bullets at Babi Yar. There are zero eyewitness claiming Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor were transit camps to the Russian East in accordance with the revisionist, or denier transit camp theory. There are only those who weren’t there.

Calling, as Fritz has said, bullshit on one aspect, or the other, or participating in what amounts to a thought-experiment how it should have been done, or how to have built a more efficient gas chamber. When confronted with the evidence, Revisionists often instead do not answer the claims, or the evidence presented. They divert attention to an area they are more familiar with, or feel is a better point they can argue. Possibly a long debunked witness, or a propaganda falsehood. If and when we see this today, I hope we can keep on the subject which Fritz has agreed to, which is my essay, “The End of the Line” and the central question Revisionists have no answer for, no good answer.

All known evidence proves the SS murdered Jews via mass gassings and mass shootings. Fritz Berg has called the SS “heroes“. I highly doubt those who had their family members ripped from them at Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor and Babi Yar would agree.

To be clear, the narrative of what’s known as the Holocaust has been drastically revised throughout the years. Inflated Soviet death tolls at several camps and massacre sites, rooms falsely claimed to have been used as homicidal gas chambers are no longer claimed as such, including five rooms at Majdanek. However, all claims of no gas chambers and no mass murder via bullets at sites such as Babi Yar come from external sources of those skeptical of the official story. In particular, those biased towards defending these mass murder accusations, including Germans, who to this day pay a heavy price due to the guilt complex inflicted upon them after their defeat in World War Two. I’ll demonstrate on this show how the denial of mass gassings and shooting is fundamentally false, via evidence and logic.

It’s fitting that Fritz appears to debate me today. Fritz got me out of a bit of revisionist retirement a few years ago in order to make videos again. After making the Last Days of the Big Lie video, I was trying to live a normal life in exile.

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I feel this period separates a demarcation time, where before this time I can defend my research almost entirely, and afterwards I believe it’s fundamentally flawed. Although I conclude I’ve been mislead at times myself by Fritz and his arguments, I also hope to demonstrate to Mr. Berg how I myself may have mislead him, as he does not have access to the entire video testimony I have selectively edited before, and often Fritz misquotes and misattributes their larger meaning.

In this debate, which Fritz agreed to, we are debating the points brought forward in my essay at questioningtheholocaust.com titled The End of the Line. Specifically the central question of Holocaust denial, those such as Fritz have avoided, often instead changing the subject.

We’re not discussing those subtopics today. We’re discussing the essential issue Revisionist such as Fritz have long ignored. The central issue of the Holocaust denial debate in 2017 is: Where did the jews sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau, selected and declared unable to work, small children their mothers and the elderly, etc., go, if not gassed and cremated at the site, as all evidence points to, and all witnesses, Jews, Russians, Poles, Germans and others alike, agree they were gassed?

There are no reports of mass transports of those unable to work out of Auschwitz during the time mass gassings are alleged to have occurred, there are no camps, massive camps, for these, quote, “useless eaters” supposedly transited through Auschwitz, which would have drained the German war machine of precious food, clothing, and other supplies. The revisionists, or deniers, propose that Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor were transit camps, not extermination camps. Transit camps to the Russian East of almost 1.5 million alleged sent to these small camps, all the evidence points were used for extermination. Where did this massive amounts of jews go to in the Russian East, if they were not gassed at these sites? Why is there not any proof of even one jew transited east through these camps? A small amount of those selected for forced labor, picked out in early 1943 and sent West, are not an explanation.

This is the subject of today’s discussion and debate and I hope the moderator, Ryan, keeps the debate on topic, my essay and a central question as Fritz said he has agreed to.

Where did they go? – One second, I’m almost done – Where did they go? Germar Rudolf told me, quote, “I don’t know.” But there are people who do know. All the eyewitnesses, as a matter of fact. And those survivors who never reunited with their family members taken away from them. These people are not participating in some grand hoax. Now I asked Fritz this very question in an email: Where did these jews go? Fritz answered that these over two million jews claimed gassed were, in fact, put to work, sweeping floors or put to other labor in other German camps. Fritz, can you prove this?

Fritz: Well you have enough testimony from survivors, and there are plenty of them out there, who said they were transferred to camps to the West and put the work. You do can’t seriously pretend that those testimonies are not there. There are many, many Jews who have testified about being in Auschwitz for several weeks, or even months, before they were assigned to work in factories in the West, in Germany. OK? Making weapons for the war! I mean, I have trouble believing that you’re as ignorant as you show that you are.

Now let me try to respond, if I may, to your lengthy, lengthy, boring talk in a general sort of way: Nobody was killed in gas chambers! Nobody! That did not happen. People were shot. The SS and the Nazis did shoot people who they thought were either partisans, or involved in supporting partisans in Russia, or anywhere else: Greece, Italy, whatever. So that no one is claiming that the Nazis, or the Germans, or the SS did not shoot people. OK? That was the standard form of execution when the Germans felt they had a damn good reason to execute people. Sometimes there had simply been hostages picked up, because they might be connected in some way, even a vague way, to real partisans who have murdered German soldiers far behind the lines, or whatever. That happened, and it’s actually legal to do that in wartime.

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The Nazis were not punished for that. But the gassing story is this goofy little story that you’ve obviously embraced for no good reason at all, which is the subject of the debate today. You’re wrong! You’re very naive! You’re grossly misinformed! You don’t know what you’re talking about! Now, one of the things I’ve focused on over the years is the claim that people were killed with diesel exhaust.

Let me ask you this right away. I’ll wait for your answer. Do you actually think people were killed with diesel exhaust in Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, or anywhere?

Eric: Well, first of all Fritz, I think you’re going back to your stock phrases and comfort zone where you often go to. No, you often do this when you can’t answer the actual question. Now, first of all I have to respond to the first, …

Fritz: You talked about the diesel gas chamber claims in your lengthy essay. OK?

Ryan: Let me jump in, actually, well let Eric answer about diesel gas, but also he was acknowledging that. He said, before you answer that, jews did go west, but the problem is two million, the number. Is there enough testimony to support that? And, Eric you also said people were shot and gassed, so it doesn’t seem to be any dispute about people being shot. So you can offer your evidence for gas chambers and you can address the diesel question as well.

Eric: Well, first of all, I want to stick to the topic which, and go in order of what Fritz has said. He called me ignorant, grossly misinformed, let’s see, no good reason. A lot of ad hominem attacks. Now, I talk about those selected as unable to work and you say, “Oh people were put to work.” However, we’re talking about those unable to work. Those too young, those selected as unable to work at the ramp. Photographed and selected and segregated, as unable to work, unable to be useful for the German war effort. We’re not talking about those people of working age that we know were sent to forced labor camps. You call me ignorant, grossly misinformed and have decided this for no good reason, but are you aware the documents show the ages of those people you talk about? And they do not fit with the ones we’re talking about that were selected to be gassed. Elie? ? Sent out of Auschwitz.

Fritz: Can I answer or do you want to keep our rabbling on for the whole period. You asked me a question. I want to answer your question. Why don’t you try to answer my question, first?

Ryan: Well let’s go in order and, … Any able to work first. So, do you think, what do you think happened to those unfit to work?

Fritz: Those unable to work were kept in the camps! They weren’t stuffed into gas chambers at all! And there’s no good evidence that anything like that happened! If there had been gassing of these people there would have been some sort of record of these people disappearing in the German records, in the German files. You would have to know that, so that you didn’t send out search parties into the neighboring forest, looking for people who had already been gassed! You would naturally expect any number of records to show something like that in order to keep your own extermination operation going, if there was such a thing, which it wasn’t!

Eric: So, Fritz, you said they were kept in the camps. We’re talking about almost, well definitely over 750,000, alleged gassed at Auschwitz. Auschwitz, …. 750,000 people.

Fritz: Yeah, yeah, yeah!

Eric: The other camps were Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor, …

Fritz: I answered your question on the RODOH discussion where I show pictures of children, old women.

Eric: Yes, I’d like to talk about that.

Fritz: I’ve talked about it. That’s my answer to your stupid claims!

Ryan: Hey, we don’t have to call things stupid or use perjoratives. But, basically Eric, he’s saying that they stayed in the camps and that there are photographs of some of these women and children in the camps. So that they weren’t gassed, they just weren’t working, but they were in the camps. And you can respond to that.

Fritz: There were pictures taken by the Russians after the Russians liberated Auschwitz!

Eric: OK, so. After November 1944 Heinrich Himmler ordered gassing ceased at Auschwitz Birkenau. Now, all that, …

Fritz: Let’s, let’s hold it right there! You said Himmler ordered to stop the gassings at Auschwitz. You have such an order somewhere?

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Eric: All witnesses describe this order. Germans have testified to this order. There’s only you who’s denying the order.

Fritz: There was no such order! You have no such order. You are making it up, shame on you!

Eric: So, we’re talking about the picture you say demonstrates that no children were gassed at Auschwitz. All of those, …

Fritz: I didn’t say that! Don’t put, … Be a little bit careful, …

Eric: When you talk about what the children picture shows.

Fritz: The children were there at the time of liberation by the Soviets. And you can see pictures of them with their arms raised, showing the tattoos on their arms with their numbers.

Eric: Let’s talk about these children. So we’re talking about six children. They were all from Slovakia.

Fritz: There were much more than six children. If that’s what you said.

[Image] Aerial view of Yad Vashem.

Eric: There’s an image at Yad Vashem dot org. You can look, it called “Through the Lens of Auschwitz Child Survivors”. The stories indicate nearly all were from Slovakia and had arrived after the, everyone agrees, the cessation of selections. After the cessation of selections in late October.

Fritz: And the fact is these were children, useless little children, just like Anne Frank herself. Before Anne Frank was transported to the west, OK? To Bergen Belsen. She wasn’t gassed at Auschwitz, or are you now claiming that she was? She was a rather useless young girl and she was not exterminated at Auschwitz.

Eric: I’ll get to Anne Frank next. I’m talking about these pictures, these children in specific pictures, …

Fritz: You jump around an awful lot.

Eric: You just jumped to Anne Frank. So let me talk about these children in the pictures you mentioned.

Fritz: Let me make a little bit of an introductory statement if I may. OK?

Ryan: You haven’t answered those two questions.

Fritz: I haven’t had anything compared to what Eric has said. Eric gave a lengthy, very boring speech and it really is very boring. I don’t think you are going to win many converts with that kind of a talk. You should try to learn how to be much more concise. Get to your point very quickly, as you will definitely lose an audience. My position is very simple. Nazi gassings never happened! Nobody was killed in gas chambers. The gas chambers were in places like Auschwitz and were used only to keep people alive, including lots and lots and lots of Jews, Poles, Gypsies, what have you. That’s what the gas chambers, real gas chambers were used to for, and that’s all they were used for.

Let me say something else here. If there is a God up there, let him strike me dead right here and now on this show, if even one person was ever deliberately killed in a gas chamber by the Nazis! Let God strike me dead right here and now! I’ve made this challenge to God for well over ten years and I’m still around! Eventually I’ll be dead, I’m sure of that! No doubt about it. It may be very soon even. But, but nobody up there in the sky is going to punish me for saying the truth, which is that nobody was killed in gas chambers! And the people like Eric Hunt who say otherwise have no idea what they are talking about!

Eric: OK he said I have no idea what I’m talking about. I’d like to talk about this photograph of the children. I’ve got some evidence I’d like to talk about and lay out for you. So. You go to Yad Vashem dot organization. You go to “Through the Lens of Auschwitz Child Survivors”. Fritz Berg says, that because of 180 children liberated on 27th January, 1945 are proof that no gassings happened at Auschwitz. Like I said, …

Fritz: I didn’t say that. I didn’t say that at all! I didn’t say that at all! Shame on you!

Ryan: You were saying that children, …

Fritz: The children were there! They were not simply disposed of because they were children!

[Image] “This photograph was taken at Auschwitz-Birkenau by Alexander Vorontsov, a Soviet photographer who accompanied the soldiers of the Red Army when they liberated the camp on 27 January 1945. The photograph depicts thirteen children, one of whom (fifth from the right) is hidden from view, and only his cap is visible.” Source: yadvashem.org

[Image] “On 27 January 2005, 60 years after they were photographed by their liberators, the six survivors living in Israel took part in a ceremony in Poland marking 60 years since the liberation of Auschwitz. (photograph by Dalit Shacham)
From right to left – Bracha Katz (formerly Berta Weinhaber), Gabriel Neumann,Shmuel Schelach (formerly Robert Schlesinger), Eva Slonim (née Weiss),Marta Wise (née Weiss), Erika Dohan (née Winter), Tomy Shacham (formerly Schwarz). Gabriel Neumann researched this photo and was then able to recreate the story behind it. He organized the journey of the six survivors back to Auschwitz to mark the 60th anniversary of their liberation.” Source: yadvashem.org

Eric: Let me talk about these children. These children were sent from Slovakia after the, … All the sources claim the gassing ceased at the end of October. Shmuel Schelach, Erika Dohan, Tomy Shacham, Gabriel Neumann, Marta Wise, Eva Slonim. They all came from Slovakia and had been deported from the Terezín [German: Theresienstadt] camp around the 3rd of November 1944. They were sent after gassings ceased, after Heinrich Himmler ordered the gassing ceased and, …

Fritz: Well that is what they say! It doesn’t mean it’s true!

Eric: You saying they’re lying about what, …

Fritz: It says that in Israel, … it doesn’t mean it’s true!

Eric: Saying about their lying about which countries they came from and which dates they arrived at Auschwitz? Is the what you’re saying?

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Fritz: These people were clearly alive. The old women that are also in those pictures, … On the RODOH discussion they are clearly alive. They were not liquidated for mysterious reason. The vast majority of the people in Auschwitz in late January of 1945 chose, voluntarily, freely to go West with the retreating Nazis! With retreating SS! With the retreating Germans! Why would they have done that if the Germans had been murdering thousands of jews every day for years and years? They would have, in reality, run the other way! They would have run to the Russians!

And one of the most prominent eye witnesses survivors, what have you, was Elie Wiesel! He and his father in January of 1945, just days before the Russians were about to take over the camp, because the Germans were retreating, he chose freely, according to his own words, to go West with the Germans! With the Nazis! With the mass murderers! Does that make any sense at all? Would any right, sane, reasonably sane person, jewish or otherwise, go along with the mass murderers of his own people? His own family, his own flesh and blood? Instead of running away to the other guys! Of course not! Elie Wiesel spells this out very clearly in “Night”, which everybody is supposed to read! It’s one of those great books that is highly recommended. I’ll read you the moment he’s talking about.

“What shall we do?”

My father did not answer.

“What shall we do, father?”

He, was lost in thought. The choice was in our hands. For once we could decide our fate for ourselves. We could both stay in the hospital, where I could, thanks to my doctor, get him entered as a patient or a nurse. Or else we could follow the others.

“Well, what shall we do, father?”

He was silent.

“Let’s be evacuated with the others,” I said to him. He did not answer. He looked at my foot.

“Do you think you can walk?”

“Yes, I think so.”

“Let’s hope that we shan’t regret it, Eliezer.”

And what is this all about? That was late January, 1945, just days before the Russians came to take over the camp. And both Elie Wiesel and his father, according to this great book he wrote, went west freely with the mass murderers! That doesn’t make much sense!

[Image] Elie Wiesel, center, with his wife, Marion; their son, Shlomo Elisha; and Egil Aarvik, the chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, after receiving the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. Credit Bjoern Sigurdsoen/NTB, via Associated Press.

That’s the story that Elie Wiesel himself, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, a great holocaust survivor, gives in his own book! Now, I don’t know whether the story is exactly true, but this is a story that has been widely accepted and believed by people, Jews, whatever, all around the world. It is a crazy stupid story! Nobody, I would dare say would xxxx travel away with their potential mass murderers. Couldn’t the Germans have had gas chambers in Germany, or at Gleiwitz? Why not? If they had them at Auschwitz, why not at Gleiwitz? Why not get rid of all those nasty jews before the war actually comes to an end?

Well, it doesn’t make sense, just as your entire position doesn’t make sense. You want to be ashamed of yourself!

Ryan: You basically answered a question with two different questions. The question at hand was about the children and Eric are saying they were transferred there after the gassing ceased. You’re saying, well, just because it says that doesn’t mean it’s true. And then you pose a couple different questions, like, why would prisoners run west with the Germans who have been killing them? That doesn’t makes sense. And that includes Eli Wiesel.

Eric: Well, what he did was just, … You know, I listened to previous debates with Roberto Muehlenkamp. He essentially, from the time he talked about people being sent west, to quoting from “Night” with Elie and his father, you can hear the exact stock phrase repeated almost word for word in that past debate. This is often a tactic of these, you could call, “deniers” to go back into these stock phrases, in their comfort zone.

Now, last thing that Fritz said was about the elderly shown in these photographs at Auschwitz liberation. The elderly shown in these photographs are from non-selected Slovak transports. Like I said, transports arrived at the camp in November after gassing ceased. Also the elderly in those photographs are Polish and Belorussian prisoners, who never underwent selection.

[Image — click to enlarge] Liberation by Soviet soldiers of some of the prisoners of Auschwitz on January 27, 1945 by part of the 100th Infantry Division of General Fyodor Krasavina. 1st Ukrainian Front.

Fritz: They had tattoos on their arms! The children had tattoos on their arms. That’s what they are showing rather proudly. Did you see that?

Eric: Yes, some pictured in that photograph were used for medical experiments. Not the exaggerated horror stories, …

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Fritz: You and your deranged little mind believe nonsense like that, because you haven’t looked critically at any of the evidence. Medical experiments were done to help keep the people alive! That’s all!

Eric: I don’t appreciate your ad hominem attacks.

Fritz: Yeah, yeah, yeah! I don’t appreciate your ad hominem attacks at people who are real heroes of the twentieth century.

Eric: Who?

Fritz: The Nazis! The SS! Otherwise we would all be living under communism today. That was what the world faced! That’s what the Nazis were fighting and that’s why, … They are the reason we still have some freedom left in this world with idiots like you we would have opened the door for the communists for the Soviets. And yet, Elie Wiesel himself, when he had a chance to be liberated by the Soviets, he chose not to be liberated by the Soviets. He, as well as hundreds of thousands of other people Auschwitz and certainly tens of thousands of jews went west, with the supposed mass murderers!

Eric: I’ve heard this before, in your little, …

Ryan: It’s not like it’s, … I think it’s a false dichotomy to say, that unless you support the Nazis then you’re a communist. It would be just silly to say, you know, the opposite too. Like if you’re really anti-communist you have to support the Nazis. You can not support the Nazis, or the communists.

Fritz: But that’s what the Americans did by and large. The United States of America likes to describe themselves as the “Bastion for, …”, or “The Arsenal for Democracy”.

Eric: This is getting off the topic.

Fritz: Let me finish my point. You started out with, like, a twenty minute, blah, blah. That was terrible.

Eric: It’s called an opening statement of a debate. It’s called debate preparation. You just repeat the same lines from your past debate. We’re talking about the central issue, what happened at Treblinka, Fritz? How many were sent there?

Fritz: I don’t know, I don’t care!

Eric: No, you don’t care.

Fritz: But, well, let’s get back to the diesel claim.

Eric: No, you know, …

Fritz: Let me finish. Don’t interrupt me all the time like that. Once in a while is OK. At Treblinka 800,000 people, or thereabouts, were supposedly murdered. And until 2008 it was claimed it was done with diesel exhaust! Explain that to me if you can?

Eric: No, I don’t have to go into your comfort zone, your stock phrases, …

Fritz: Because I know about that subject. You totally ignore that, …

Eric: What you are talking about, …

Fritz: You have totally ignored, you continue to totally ignore the specifics of how these mass gas chambers supposedly worked!

Eric: You want to avoid, but you don’t, …

Ryan: Because, you know, Fritz, Eric is asking you what happened to the people who couldn’t work? And you’re saying, and you basically said, well they were at the camps and they didn’t work, but they weren’t gassed either. And then you use some photographs evidence of that, little girls and children with tattoos. Eric saying, well that’s because, you know, he said exactly where they’re from, they’re from Slovakia and this and that. And this was after the gassing stopped. And you disagreed. And Eric he asked you a question about Treblinka and how they were used to be a claim about diesel and, but you don’t want to answer that yet, because you’re not satisfied with Fritz’s answer about where all these two million, you know, …

Eric: Well I, you know, I have no problem answering that later on. But I mean, when I, … You said, “I don’t care what happened at Treblinka, how many were sent there”. Do you agree, or do you disagree that at least 750,000 Jews were sent to your Treblinka, never to be seen again?

Fritz: No, I don’t agree with that at all! Let me finish! You’ve rambled on quite a long time already. There were two demographic studies that I talk about on my website, that came out in the year 2000. And one was by a Jewish demographer from New York City named Jacob Ukeles. And he claims that there were 688,000 Jewish Holocaust survivors in the year 2000. That’s a huge number! A huge number!

Eric: I heard this on your previous debate Fritz. These are stock phrases you’ve, …

Fritz: Am I not allowed to talk about things that I talk about in a previous debate?

Eric: Not on this issue. We’re talking about the central issue raised in my argument, as you agreed.

Fritz: I’m trying to answer where these people went. You wanted me to answer all the, …

Eric: [garbled]

Fritz: Look we are not going to have a serious debate if you keep talking over me, like this.

Ryan: We’re head butting again. We are going to let Fritz answer. Eric, it doesn’t matter if he said it in an earlier debate, because if that’s what it comes through there then he can say the same thing as that’s what he thinks.

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Eric: It comes to the topic areas in my introduction, which is that you talk about specifics. How many sent to your Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor? And he wants to talk about general demography that these large numbers that, … We’re not talking about anything in specific, we’re talking about these general masses of people. We’re talking about specific people allegedly sent to these sites, Treblinka, Belzec Sobibor. Also, …

Fritz: Can I answer now? Or do you just want to ramble on and, …?

Ryan: Let him answer.

Fritz: The simple answer is they went all over the place! Some of them may have died at Treblinka. But none of them died in gas chambers. They were transferred to any number of other places to do work, to do something useful for the war effort for Germany. That’s totally reasonable and that’s what the evidence shows and you have no evidence of any value of anything else!

Eric: You talk of no evidence, however, can you name one jew transited to the east through Treblinka, Belzec or Sobibor?

Fritz: I don’t even care! Because, I’m sure they went to all kinds of places. Surely, because I can’t give an accounting doesn’t mean they were murdered!

Eric: One point four million people sent through those specific camps and you can’t even name one, but your totally sure they didn’t die!

Fritz: In your interviews that you broadcast on your first video, you have people talking about, “Oh yeah, I was here at Treblinka, and I was at Auschwitz and I sent maybe to Majdanek, …” they mention all kinds of other camps that they were relocated too, for one reason, or another.

[Image] Gisella Perl author of the book, “I was a Doctor in Auschwitz“.

Gisella Perl, I think that’s her name, she actually claimed her entire class of schoolchildren, I think they were all Jewish, … It sounded like they were about two hundred as I recall, they went to Treblinka and then they want somewhere else. They all got back on the train and went to another place. Was she lying? I don’t think so, I think she’s probably telling the truth. Maybe she got a few mistakes in her story, but she wasn’t gassed to death at Treblinka, either. She was alive and well long after the war! Just like Helen Schwartz was alive and well long after the war. I mean, do you deny that? That these two people were not gassed at Auschwitz or Treblinka, or anywhere else?

[Image] Helen Schwartz being interviewed — “By Some Miracle, Water Came Down, Instead of the Gas!“

Eric: Well, I have to actually remind you. You probably should have listened more to my long boring introduction, …

Fritz: It was was boring all right. That’s for sure.

Eric: I actually covered exactly what you’re talking about. So, I said a small amount of those selected for forced labor, picked out in 1943 and sent west and south are not an explanation. So the Richard Korherr demographer, a German demographer, submitted a report to Heinrich Himmler.

[Image] Richard Korherr in 1978, at the age of 75

Also the Hoefle Telegram describes 1.27 million transited through these camps in 1942. The official revisionist transit camp theory is that all these Jews were sent to the Russian east, because the Russian east was supposedly, the exterminationists say, they were sent to the Russian east, deported to the Russian east is a code word for “extermination”. How do we know this is true? I mean, you know, this is true, because, well, we can’t find any of these Jews sent to the Russian east. What we can find are, as the Polish investigative committee, as all the witnesses describe, as photographs show, … There is cremated remains at these sites. There’s bones all over the place.

You talk about Helen Schwartz. So, a small amount of these people were sent in early 1943 from the east to the west through Treblinka. We’re talking about people from Grodno and Bialystok to the east of Treblinka. A small amount of them were selected for forced labor and deported further south, …

Fritz: How do, you know? Just a quick question. How do, you know, it’s only a small amount?

Eric: Well, there is one surviving document that shows about 500 transited to Majdanek, that’s one of the only small transports we know of. And this is all 1943.

Fritz: That is not so small, …

Eric: OK out of 1942 we can’t find any. Out of nearly, I believe 713,000 transited through Treblinka in 1942. You can’t find any transited to the Russian east. And overall you can’t find anything, not even with one transited to the Russian east through these camps.

[45:09]

Fritz: Well, it would be nice to have those records, you know, there was a war going on during World War Two, and after the war, for like fifty years, the Soviet Union ruled and was not terribly co-operative either. So, some records may have gotten lost! I know that’s hard for you to imagine that some records might have been destroyed or lost, but that does happen in war time. Surprise, surprise!

Eric: I want to go real quick to Helen Schwartz. One second, I saw an email someone quoted from you. And in my long boring introduction I want to explain to you how you may have possibly been mislead by selective editing and misinterpretations of what I’ve shown in my past videos. I included this woman, Helen Schwartz in previous videos. I need to find an e-mail real quick. Give me one second.

Ryan: Okay, I propose a question. I’m just curious since I have two revisionists that know a lot about this subject on. In Majdanek there was an entire room full of cribs. What is the purpose of this if they’re not trying to keep children alive, or do you think they did that so that those working would continue to work, or what’s the explanation for that?

Fritz: They were trying to keep them alive. Very simple!

Eric: I’m sorry, can you repeat the question?

Ryan: Majdanek had rooms full of cribs, for instance. What’s the purpose or did the purpose change as they started losing that war? What’s the explanation?

Eric: Well if you notice I haven’t mentioned the Majdanek camp in my article, or this particular instance. The Majdanek camp is a bit in question of what exactly the extermination, if it happened in the big two gas chambers which remain today, or not. The mass amount of evidence, which is all eye-witnesses, Fritz. Every single one of them say mass gassings happened at these sites. All the evidence points to this, including the remains of people.

Fritz: No, no, no, not true! That’s not true. That’s not true. There was a wonderful lady living in New York City who was put on trial after the war. I can’t quite remember her name, but she denied anything of the sort. And yet she was still deported back to Germany. Her husband was forced to, you know, to have a messed up relationship with her. Brownstein O’Ryan I think was her name was. She married him. A nice man like O’Ryan and then her name, I think was Brownstein. She denied all of that stuff. Plenty of people have denied that stuff.

[Image] Rudolf Hoess captured and tortured by the British. Note the soldier on the left holding a large black knife.

Rudolf Hoess, the commandant of Auschwitz also denied any kind of gassings. But, he was tortured. That’s how they got him eventual to make a statement in support of the holocaust hoax. OK! Rudolf Hoess was tortured terribly for three days by a bunch of jews in the British Army. One of them named, I think, Bernhard Clarke and there was plenty of information about this. Because the guy actually admitted, he was bragging about it! There’s an excellent book that was written by Rupert Butler and it was published in 1983 called “Legions of Death”. And the murderer, the torturer was Bernhard Clarke. And he boasted about how he tortured Rudolf Hoess, until finally, Rudolph Hoess gave in and made some statements, with his signature supporting the gassing nonsense for Auschwitz, OK? But I was only through torture! That’s what people of your ilk did to get the kind of evidence we’re talking about it!

Ryan: I haven’t tortured anybody.

Fritz: Why not? Why not? That’s how they got the confessions! That is what those confessions were all about! Torture!

Eric: I don’t appreciate being called a torturer, Fritz.

Ryan: But, they did torture.

Fritz: Do you deny that Rudolf Hoess was tortured?

Eric: No, not at all!

Fritz: Do you actually deny that Rudolf Hoess was tortured? Let me tell you with a few words before you jump in with your nonsense. Rudolf Hoess was tortured horribly for three days. He still wouldn’t give in, but, when his wife and family were threatened with shipment, deportation to the Soviet Union, then he gave in. OK?

[50:09]

Eric: Did he ever deny the gassings and point out where these Jews unable to work, …

Fritz: He spelled out, … It’s all spelled out in the book.

Eric: I understand that he was tortured, but, …

Fritz: Let me finish will you? Let me answer your question. It’s all spelled out in the number of good essays. The torture and false confession of Rudolf Hoess and Joseph Mengele also denied all of these claims. His son spent a lot of time interviewing him and the son was appalled that the father would deny these things. OK?

[Image — click to enlarge] Richard Baer (left) Dr. Joseph Mengele (middle) and Rudolf Hoess (right) in happier times on the grounds of the Solahütte retreat, 1944.

My uncle, by marriage and named Boyen, Franz Boyen [sp?] was a German military intelligence officer. He was in Auschwitz twice, interrogating Russian prisoners. He told me very clearly aft the war in my presence and [with] great confidence, that he was in Auschwitz and there was nothing wrong with the place! Nothing was wrong with that camp! And the two Russian prisoners, they both were very open with him about their situation. One of them in a second interview said, “The way this war is going, we’re going to outlive you!” To my uncle, a German military officer! And my uncle, unfortunately, had to agree with him at that time in 1944. So, there are plenty of Germans if you go around and do some serious interviewing, who will tell you there was nothing there to support the claim that anyone was gassed.

Judge Wilhelm Stäglich was a German judge after the war. He wrote about his experiences at Auschwitz, and he said the prisoners there were very cocky. They kind of looked at him as a German officer with disdain, because he was only a German officer. They weren’t afraid of him at all. OK?

Ryan: You seem to be presenting, …

Fritz: … The actual pictures of the Jews from the Auschwitz Album and say that these people knew they were going to be gassed, or were waiting to be gassed. That’s crazy! These people were totally unrestrained, they’re not in shackles, as is done with the prisoners in Guantanamo when they really want to go to a bathroom. OK?

Eric: OK. Let’s talk about, …

Fritz: These people were not restrained physically at all. They were snacking and picnicking on the way supposedly to the gas chambers! Crazy, crazy, crazy!

Eric: Yeah. So, these people you say, “picnicking” are surrounded by the electrified barbed wire fence outside of crematorium IV and V, …

Fritz: Some of them might have been surrounded by a barbed wire fence, but not all of them.

Eric: All of them.

Fritz: Look at the Album carefully and critically, for a change!

Eric: Have you ever been to Auschwitz-Birkenau?

Fritz: Have I?

Eric: Yes.

Fritz: It was very easy to escape from the camp.

Eric: Have you ever been there? I’m talking about the layout of the camp. Have you ever been there?

Fritz: Me? Are you asking me?

Eric: Yes!

Fritz: Yes, I have.

Eric: Yes, OK. So, if you look at the Auschwitz Album the people I’m talking about, they’re actually photographed walking from the train station, walking past the central sauna. The central sauna was the perfect place for them to be deloused, to receive a shower, to get new clothing. Instead they walked past the central sauna and they’re shown corralled outside of crematorium IV and V. They look quite distressed. Some of the children appear to be picking at their clothing as if, you know, after the day’s journey on the train, they’re very filthy. Possibly infested with lice and fleas.

Fritz: So they walked past, … Not all of them at all! Not all of them at all!

Eric: I would say the majority of them look quite stressed, Fritz. They’re not having a picnic as you say.

Fritz: They are all having a picnic. They are snacking. In some of the pictures they are nibbling on sandwiches and having a gay old time!

Eric: Fritz, it was not a picnic, or a gay old time! These people were shown, …

Fritz: It was! Your completely wrong! Completely wrong. [garbled]

Eric: [chuckling] Auschwitz was a “gay old time”!

[Image] Victor Frankl’s book with a different German title (1946) and his English version titled, “Man’s Search for Meaning“.

Wikipedia: The book’s original title in German is …trotzdem Ja zum Leben sagen: Ein Psychologe erlebt das Konzentrationslager: that is, “…To Nevertheless Say ‘Yes’ to Life: A Psychologist Experiences the Concentration Camps“. The title of the first English-language translation was From Death-Camp to Existentialism. The book’s common full English title is Man’s Search for Meaning: An Introduction to Logotherapy, although this subtitle is often not printed on the cover of modern editions. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man’s_Search_for_Meaning

Ryan: “Man’s Search for Meaning”. This is interesting and makes a point for both of you. Victor Frankl was a psychologist, a Jewish psychologist who was also a prisoner at Auschwitz. And he wrote a long book about, you know, those who survive, and those who didn’t, because certainly near the end of the war, people started to starve to death, because the Germans themselves were starving to death. So, of course, prisoners are last on the list that you’re going to take care of.

[55:03]

He doesn’t mention any gassings, or anything, even though he was at Auschwitz the entire time and survived. But Auschwitz was certainly not a picnic. He said how he used to have dreams of getting the thick part of the soup from the bottom of the bowl. And that kind of thing. And how horrible it was and how little food they had, especially towards the end of the war. So certainly not a picnic.

Eric: Auschwitz was not a picnic, or a “gay old time”. It was, …

Fritz: I have a discussion on my website.

Eric: It’s not, it’s not worth debating with someone who says Auschwitz was a “gay old time” and a “picnic”, Fritz! Can I talk about the evidence, quickly. About what we’re talking about the Auschwitz Album?

Fritz: No, no, no! Let’s, …

Eric: A “gay old time” Auschwitz!

Fritz: Listen Ryan Dawson, please let me interrupt here. Let Eric come back to the alleged diesel gas chambers which were supposedly used at Treblinka. Tell me something about them and why you believe people were killed with diesel exhaust?

Eric: Were going into your stock phrase comfort area. I’m talking about what we were talking about, …

Fritz: Yeah my comfort area! We’ve been dealing with your comfort area long enough. Let’s try to get back to mine, …

Eric: So I wasn’t able to finish my talk about the Auschwitz Album and those people you claim are having a picnic and a gay old time! They’re shown in the woods outside of crematorium V. This is where all the witnesses claim mass gassing, via Zyklon B occurred. This is where aerial and ground photography shows large cremation pits outside of crematorium V. These people, these people unable to work, obviously segregated as unable to work, were never seen again. There’s no proof they were sent anywhere else. They passed the central sauna. If they were supposed to be deloused and enter the camp as the others seen in the next series of photographs in the Auschwitz Album were entering the camp. They’re older. They’re all able to work. You cannot tell where the approximate, well over 750,000 of these useless eaters, which would have sapped the German war effort of precious food clothing and other supplies, went after Auschwitz!

You cannot say this, …

Fritz: I did tell you that, …

Eric: OK, …

Fritz: I did tell you that. You just don’t want to believe it. I can tell you something else that’s very important, …

Eric: [garbled]

Fritz: Let me, don’t interrupt me now, for a change. You interrupted all the time here. When they went to other places, when they were shipped to a factory somewhere in Germany, you could be sure they were not wearing those dirty rags that they all wore when they arrived in Auschwitz. They were given clean clothes and clean hats, if they wore any hats and all. They got rid of those lice infested clothes and cleaned up these people before they sent them to work in Germany, OK!

Eric: So the toddlers were, …. So the toddlers shown in the pictures were sent to factories to work? The toddlers and the elderly and children?

Fritz: The toddlers were kept somewhere, they might have been sent to factories in Germany too. I don’t know and I don’t even care! But they certainly weren’t, …

Eric: So, you don’t care?

Fritz: Anne Frank was not gassed at Auschwitz! Do you accept the critical fact that Anne Frank was not gassed to death at Auschwitz?

[Image] Anne Frank.

Eric: Anne Frank was old enough to work as I was when I was fourteen years old. I worked legally.

Fritz: OK. So you think she was working at Bergen Belsen?

Eric: No. But those selected to work were sent to Bergen Belsen and of that age group. It’s no problem. It does not contradict the official story, whatsoever.

Fritz: Certainly couldn’t have been doing any very heavy work, if any. Young children, hundreds [of] children were sent to places like ???.

Eric: She wasn’t that young, she was like I said, I was working legally, …

Ryan: There’s a difference here. Like when you guys are saying children, fourteen, a teenager can work. I think Eric’s talking about like three, or four.

Fritz: Well, OK. I’ll concede that a teenager at age fourteen can work. OK? Big deal! She wasn’t gassed to death at Auschwitz, though. Right?

Eric: That doesn’t contradict the official story, Fritz. We’re talking about those people segregated and unable to work, are the ones that were gassed. Not those used for forced labor, not those able to help the German war effort.

Fritz: Well so. So how many people do you think were gassed to death at Auschwitz?

Eric: Well the figure’s about around one million. We’ve got transports, all on record. I mean. Sorry, I can’t say all on record. There’s reports of transports from Hungary, Poland and other countries. As you see, we’re talking about those unable to work. These those unable to work are the ones that were primarily gassed. And as I have, trying to piece together transports out of Auschwitz. It’s impossible to find these large transports of these useless eaters being sent to factories, as you claim.

[60:00]

Fritz: Well, they’re talked about it after the war and Maria Blough [sp?] was one I tried to actually engage in a debate with years ago. And she categorically refused to debate with anybody who didn’t believe in the Holocaust hoax to begin with!

Ryan: I have a question, … Someone has e-mailed a question. I’ll just read. Was the purpose of gassing at all? Why didn’t they just shoot them? This person is asking:

“Why build a chamber and then incinerated them and all that? Why didn’t they just machine-gun them on the first day, or whatever?”

Fritz: That’s actually good question. I don’t have an answer for that!

Ryan: Why not just shoot them, if you can tattoo them you can cut their wrist. Do, you know, why?

Eric: Well Ryan, the answer is that, and this is documented, that the SS and soldiers involved with these mass shootings. [It’s] a pretty terrible traumatic thing for the soldiers themselves to have to do and Germans themselves are claiming, have written, … There’s a reports of the Germans themselves not, … I believe the quote is, “Not wanting to turn their own people into psychopaths”.

So what was done was, …

Fritz: So, you gas them instead? You gas the jews instead?

Eric: Sure. It was a more impersonal process. You know, they got the Jews themselves, Sonderkommandos to take part in it. So, you know, mass shooting of women and children and the blood and the guts and the associated guilt is harder for these SS “heroes” as you say, to deal with.

Fritz: That might have traumatized the Jews! What do you think of that? Do you think the jews might have been traumatized also, by watching gassing, so people with urine and feces bubbling out all over the place afterward?

Eric: Sure! The Nazis were killing the Jews! I don’t think they cared about their, the feelings of the ones watching it.

Fritz: Well, look! If people are working with something like that, they tend to react rather violently against the tormentor, against the monster who is forcing them to do these terrible things. That’s what happens! That’s why we have ISIS today. These people half crazy from Allied bombing, the American bombing, react violently against everybody around them practically. You tend to go a little crazy if you have to endure the kind of horrors that people in Iraq had to endure, just in the last twenty years.

Ryan: I don’t know how, …

Eric: Well you’re talking, …

Ryan: … One million bullets saved, also, to help the war effort. You could still stab them, I don’t know. That was just a question someone wrote in and I want to bring it back on topic, …

Fritz: Can we get back to the, …

Eric: It’s well documented. Sorry, real quick, …

Fritz: Can we get back to my comfort zone for a change? We’ve been dealing with Eric’s comfort zone for a long time.

Ryan: We’re going to get into everything, …

Fritz: How did these gas chambers supposedly work?

Ryan: Eric, you did say earlier you would address the diesel question. Do you want to do that now and then we’ll get back to the photograph thing? Is that OK?

Eric: Yeah, sure. What Fritz is, …

Ryan So Fritz ask your question again about Treblinka and the diesel.

Fritz: All right. Let me see, … I actually wrote it down here.

Ryan: Well, you were saying for a long time this story was saying that they were using diesel gas.

Fritz: Right. Well, does Eric still believe people were killed with diesel exhaust at Treblinka?

Eric: Well, all the, as, you know, Fritz, all the evidence, eyewitnesses closest to and who operated the alleged liquid fuel gas chambers at the sites, testified they were petrol, or gasoline and not diesel.

Fritz: Oh, is that the story now? So you’ve changed the story, …

Eric: No I have not, Fritz! There’s several witnesses who describe the engines as “petrol engines”. The ones closest to them, …

Fritz: That is true, but the general story until 2008, promoted even by the US government, was that it was diesel exhaust. So, if you want to switch, … If you want to go through the gasoline story we can deal with that too. So, do you now admit that it was not diesel exhaust or don’t you have an opinion?

Ryan: Well, different question, Eric. Was that really the story from the US government, that it was diesel. Not your story, but was that sort of the official story for a while?

Eric: I mean, Fritz is a, he’s a educated mining engineer from Columbia University. So he knows that diesel engines are generally used in mines, because they are relatively safe under working conditions. They even output some oxygen, right?

[65:08] [1:05:08]

So I fully understand and sympathize with Fritz when he saw claims of diesel engines used to kill people, and thinking that diesel engines would be inefficient, because they, because of their use in mining and other areas. I totally understand, as myself coming into this as a skeptic, seeing sort of flaws in, what we say, my “comfort zone” right? So I understand. But as Fritz has said and he admits it’s true, that the witnesses closest to, him who actually operated the alleged liquid fuel gas chambers, testified they were petrol engines.

Fritz: Well, some did, some did.

Ryan: Some of them did, but how did it become diesels? Is that a mistake? Like from, we’re talking about the government, so, …

Eric: You know, personally it doesn’t particularly matter to me, but, like I said, it seems the closest witnesses and those who operated claimed petrol. But, I don’t know what Fritz’s point is, is getting at.

Ryan: Well, i’d say my point in this is like, yeah you’re correct that those closest, who were operating and that’s what happened. They know what would happen. But it is worthy to note that such an incorrect rumor could be spread, because that allows some credibility to other rumors being spread. Which we know there are a lot of exaggerations about the Holocaust. Not saying they’re not gassings, or anything but, you know, the soap and lamp shades and some of the other nonsense, the pooped diamonds and things you mentioned in the beginning, which cause people to throw the baby out with the bath water.

[Image — click to enlarge] Propaganda display at Buchenwald Concentration Camp showing shrunken heads, pieces of tattooed skin and a lampshade claimed to be made from human skin (actually pig skin?).

This is the reason why people are willing to be skeptical. And I would also say, you know, current lies about Iraq and Syria and Libya, … We see the mass media lie continually and have all these witnesses in Aleppo, over and over again, lying. And so, that’s why people are willing to be skeptical of the holocaust story. And you said yourself, well just because there are some exaggerations you can’t throw the baby out the bath water, it doesn’t mean you can become an extremist in the other direction, right?

But I just wondering about the diesel rumor, because, … OK it wasn’t diesel, it was petrol, fine. But, if that was a widely accepted belief, that’s still important, because it shows how uncritical the Allies are just accepting any story that fits the narrative they need.

Fritz: We want to scrutinize also the Soviet Union which promoted this diesel claim also in their farcical show trials in 1943 when they claimed that it was diesel exhaust that was used in the gas vans in Russia, to commit mass murder and Soviet citizens, not necessarily Jews at all. But it was diesel engines that was supposedly used in the gas vans!

Ryan: Right. So that may be one of these exaggerations then, but, …

Fritz: Well, it’s not an exaggeration, it’s a lie! It’s a lie! It’s a very blatant stupid lie! … The entire Holocaust hoax!

Eric: So, even if they were diesel, which they appear not to have been, but petrol, as those closest to and who operated the alleged liquid fuel gas chambers testify, Fritz himself admits that operated under certain conditions, under load, diesel exhaust will kill all those inside. It would just take longer.

Fritz: Well not quite. I haven’t admitted anything like that. You haven’t read my stuff very carefully. What I have said is that, … Well let me finish with what I actually say. Diesel exhaust can kill under certain circumstances and they’re not that hard to achieve. If I’m stuck in a small closet and someone blows diesel exhaust into that closet, the temperature in that closet is going to approach maybe two hundred degrees Fahrenheit. At that point I will be dead! And so will anybody else who is in that kind of a situation. And so you can kill people with diesel exhaust, if you go to an awful lot of silly, silly trouble. But, as a method of execution it does not work well, at all! And moreover, you end up killing people, but not with carbon monoxide, because there’s hardly any carbon monoxide in diesel exhaust.

There is plenty of carbon monoxide in gasoline engine exhaust and that’s a big difference. And that’s one of the reasons why people like Muehlenkamp and others who realize that they were just in trouble with their idiotic diesel claims, switched over to gasoline engines. But, you have a huge problem, an even bigger problem if you argue that gasoline engines were used instead, because when you kill people with lots of carbon monoxide, the corpses are bright cherry red! OK!

[70:12] [1:10:12]

And that is obvious to anybody who sees corpses of people who die from carbon monoxide. The corpses are red, with very, very, very, few exceptions, and it occurs almost instantly, but it becomes more dramatic within an hour, or two. And the corpses, sometimes even described as being lobster like in appearance! That is to say boiled lobster like in appearance. And yet none! None, none of the so-called eye witnesses to the piles of dead corpses at Treblinka, or Belzec, or Sobibor ever, ever claim that the corpses were red! They claim the corpses are blue, or yellow, or other colors. Or no different from ordinary corpses.

[Image] Victim of carbon monoxide poisoning showing reddish skin.

Source: Forensic Medicine: Colour Guide (Edinburgh; New York: Churchill Livingstone, 2003) page 12.

Clearly, the alternative story which Eric is now promoting, that the people were killed with gasoline engines, gasoline engine exhaust instead, is absurd also! It’s not believable, because it flies in the face of what eyewitnesses actually said, supposedly, OK? What they supposedly saw, supposedly. Corpses of carbon monoxide poisoning are red and it’s a bright, very distinct cherry red! It’s described endlessly in the medical literature, which you should read someday, Eric, before you talk the kind of nonsense you’re spouting! Cyanide gassings are also red!

Ryan: OK. Eric the corpses would be red. None of the witnesses describe them as such.

Eric: Actually, that’s not true. First of all, I’m going to address the diesel gassings claims. So, what Fritz is engaging in amounts to a thought experiment, “How to build a better gas chamber”. That the often makeshift concrete rooms used as homicidal gas chambers could have been designed better, isn’t in dispute. What witnesses describe, in not only so-called lying Jews, but Poles, Soviet POW’s and Germans themselves, was a brutal process. The fact of the matter is that if you put any group of humans in a closed concrete room and pipe in engine exhaust, or cyanide pellets they will die! In the total, … Isn’t that true Fritz?

Fritz: Scott! You’ve got to help me here. [talking to someone with Fritz]

I knocked out my connection here. Ryan?

Ryan: Yes!

Fritz: Anybody there?

Ryan: I hear you.

Fritz: I may have mucked up my connection, here, folks.

Ryan: We can hear you. Hello?

Fritz: We hear you, OK. I have inadvertently messed up my connection here and I apologize but. Maybe we fix it quickly…. People in a small chamber like a bomb shelter, and the Germans had bomb shelters that were gas tight all over the place. Many, many, tens of thousands of bomb shelters. Anyway, the gas chamber stories get crazier and crazier when you look into them. I don’t know if you can still hear me. I don’t know if anyone is listening to me.

Ryan: We’re listening.

Fritz: Now the testimony of true survivors from Auschwitz from 1944, everybody in the gas chamber was dead in three minutes! From the introduction of the Zyklon pellets.

Eric: OK. What about the other witnesses that testified longer times?

Fritz: I’m sorry, but I have a problem here and I don’t know what to do about it at the moment, …

Eric: Just call him back.

Fritz: Scott Smith and I are working on this and if you can hear me OK, ….

Ryan: I’m going to call him back.

Part II of the debate about the Holocaust between Eric Hunt and Fritz Berg. So, anyway we heard what you were saying. And I think this is a big problem is like, when there are sincere accounts there seems to be a flood of goofy ones, like a female body and male body burn at different rates and, … There’s so much nonsense that people want to dismiss the entire thing.

[75:18] [1:15:08]

Eric: That’s true, Ryan. The fat on women and women’s breasts and buttocks and things aid the process.

Ryan: Yeah, but I’ve talked to people about that too, and it’s very insignificant.

Eric: I agree! Absolutely insignificant! But it shows how desperate Eric is to come up with something to support the lies of people like Rudolf Virba who actually claimed that the smoke from the cremotoria chimney was different! Different colors depending on whether it was Lithuanian Jews, or other Jews from different locations. He clearly, Rudolf Virba was a liar! And yet he was one of the important witnesses to the so-called holocaust gassing! Even if people had died in gas chambers that particular claim is a lie! If nothing else.

[Image Text: Left inmate: Do you see that? …Blue flames! … There goes Irving … Look! … Green flames! … Must be Seymour … Do you see the colour of poor Seymour’s flames?

Right inmate: What ya talkin’ about … I don’t even see any flames.

The Miracle of the Colour-Coded Flames …

During the 1985 Zundel Trial in Canada, media-certified actual Holohoax eyewitness and “survivor” Arnold Friedman testified that while in Auschwitz he could tell who was being burned in the ovens by the colour of the flames that shot out of the cremation chimney. Mr. Friedman told the court that if blue flames shot out of the chimney it meant a Hungarian Jew was being burned. if green flames came out of the chimney it meant that a Polish Jew was being burned, and so on. (5)]

Ryan: There certainly were people who lied, or exaggerated and Eric said in the beginning, he pointed out some of the idiotic testimonies about poop diamonds [Zisblatt] being thrown over an electric fence and landing on a train and some of that. But that isn’t, we’ve heard all that. You guys agree on that. Were talking, the main question is, “Where did the people go?“

Fritz: [loosing his connection]

Ryan: Can you hear what I was saying?

Eric: Yes, I can hear.

Ryan: I’m just trying to get back onto the central question.

Eric: That’s good.

Ryan: We know there are lots of exaggerations, we know that. We can throw out a lot of stupid things, but, …

Eric: You know, Germans didn’t say stupid things as some of these, you know, Zisblatt and Wiesel witnesses. But they do describe being separated. I mean, the Jews do describe being separated from their family forever. They’re never seen again! There’s absolutely no proof they were ever found alive again. And, …

Fritz: You know, that’s not true. That’s not true. Let me interrupt here. Again and again in the newspapers you hear about people meeting each other after having been separated for so many years. These are Jews, Jewish Holocaust survivors. “Oh! I thought my aunt was killed and now I meet her and it’s oh so wonderful!”

There are plenty of stories like that, even fifty years after the war about Jewish survivors meeting each other after they had thought the other relative was dead. OK? It happens all the time! It happens in Israel! It happens in Europe, all over the place! The US Holocaust Memorial Museum has plenty of cases like that if they ever want to talk about it.

Eric: That’s not a surprise. Nor does it contradict the official story! It does not, …

Fritz: It flies totally in the face of what you just claimed! When you said that this, “they never met again!” There are plenty of people who have met again after having gone through the so-called holocaust. Now in 2003, …

Eric: Let me interrupt, please, …

Fritz: Now I’m losing track of what’s, …

Eric: Very quickly. Can I interrupt. So, the people Fritz is talking about do not contradict the official story.

Fritz: Yes they do.

Eric: No one, … First of all, all these people, if they’re talking about through Auschwitz, they were perfectly able to work. They were of the age where they were selected for labor. If you’ve actually found someone transported through Treblinka, Belzec, or Sobibor to the Russian East that reunited with their family, that would be great! Can you tell us who they were?

Fritz: I’ve never found anyone and I don’t care! I know that they were not killed at Treblinka with diesel exhaust and they were not killed with gasoline engine exhaust. All the testimony to the contrary is, or are lies! Every one of them! Every one of them, so-called eyewitnesses who claimed that he saw bodies of people after they had supposedly killed with carbon monoxide from diesel exhaust, or gasoline, is a liar! Everyone! No exceptions!

Eric: So everyone’s a liar, including Germans themselves who described this happening?

Fritz: No, I don’t think there are any Germans who described this happening, at all. There aren’t any!

Eric: Yes there are.

Fritz: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You’re living in a fantasy world! You don’t have a gas chamber that works! You don’t even have a gas chamber that even works! You don’t even know how a diesel engine works!

Eric: You can’t find, you can’t find, …

Ryan: Do you have any sources that show Germans admitting these things?

Eric: Well, yeah, absolutely. Fritz is talking about all these Germans who supposedly are admitting it’s a hoax and providing evidence. This is actually largely contrary to what actually did happen to the Germans. But the standard stock answer is that they were tortured and they couldn’t submit this, supposed, acquitting evidence, even [throughout] their entire lives.

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So the deniers call all Jewish, Polish, Russian, Ukrainian and other witnesses to gassing and mass shooting, liars. What about the Germans? You know, we just hear, “Oh, they were tortured. They can’t tell the truth.” They couldn’t tell us where they were transited after going to Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor, right? The revisionist excuse that some reason, German, …

Fritz: Let’s deal with a simple piece of evidence that I’ve cited before. Sergio de la Pergola [sp?] studied the total number of Jewish Holocaust survivors, not in 1945 or ‘46. But in 2003! He found more than 1,093,000 Jewish Holocaust survivors! And he discussed them and gave their locations to the Israeli government. He is an Israeli Jewish demographer. He came up with 1,093,000 alive in 2003. Now since the war, many Jews died from natural causes and it leads me to conclude that if 1,093,000 were alive in 2003 there must have been millions of Jewish Holocaust survivors alive at the end of the war! Is that somehow far-fetched? Do I know where they all were or what happened to all of them, of course, not!

Ryan: It’s not far-fetched, but we’re kind of going in circles here, because, I think that’s not addressing what Erik’s really asking. Because, …

Fritz: Well, I’ve told him!

Ryan: It’s not the total death count, six million and all that. He’s saying those who were able to work were in labor camps and forced to work and were not killed. He’s talking about the portion who were not able to work. Because he believes they were gassed and were shot.

Fritz: He doesn’t even have a good reason for thinking they were gassed. They might have been taken out in the back woods and shot. How can you not exclude that as a possibility. It certainly makes more sense then to try to kill them with diesel exhaust.

Eric: Fritz likes to go back to his stock answer of general demographic information when we’re talking about specific camps, specific people, specific communities of Jews sent to these sites, never seen again. That there is a massive, …

Fritz: Yes they were seen again. Helen Schwartz was seen again. Wasn’t she? ??? was seen again. How can you deny that? So you’re saying that they were never seen again. You’re lying!

Eric: You denied it yourself. You said that you can’t find one person transited through the Russian east through Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor.

Fritz: Well, I can’t find any that went to Russia. So what, they could have gone any number of other places. And they did!

Eric: Well, you say, “So what?” Transited to the Russian east is a code word Russian demographer Richard Korr used in a report for Heinrich Himmler, when he called to get explanations, …

Fritz: Code words? He spoke very clearly! Stop lying! You didn’t come up with any code words. He spoke very clearly in his report. He doesn’t, …

Eric: He said transited to the Russian east, but you can’t find any one transit to the Russian east. What you can find are pits of mass cremation pits of bones and human remains! You can find all the evidence, all the eyewitnesses claiming gassings and mass cremations, …

Fritz: Even yourself looked for cremation pits and you found nothing of the sort!

Eric: No. First of all, what I did in my video, “Treblinka Archaeology Hoax”. Although some of it I can stand behind, the main conclusion I can not! Part of the reason I presented that video and maybe Fritz I can calmly tell you that I’m sorry if you’ve been mislead by that video. I feel mislead as well. I was involved in a bit of an echo chamber that hides a lot of the evidence. Or claims that all the archaeologists and all the witnesses are absolute liars.

There are photographs of these mass cremation pits, I don’t believe I showed them in that presentation. I don’t think I talked about the Polish and various other archaeological investigations at the site. I don’t think I’ve talked about, well first of all, I don’t agree Caroline Colls would lie about the general science and evidence of mass graves at the site. And as I said, the photographs and all the eyewitnesses show, [garbled] … Bones, human remains at the site. And, of course, we can’t find one Jew transited through this site to the Russian east in accordance with the Korr report to Heinrich Himmler.

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Also evidence in the Hoefle Telegram found in British archives, …

Fritz: Hold on, the Hoefle Telegram doesn’t claim these people were shipped to the Soviet Union and I don’t think the Korr Report does either.

Eric: The Korr Report does claim that they, …

Ryan: What you said was the Korr Report say they were liquidated, doesn’t it?

Eric: No. That they were transited to the east and it lines up with the Hoefle Telegram, the amount of trains transited to the Russia east. Transited to the Russian east is generally determined by all serious historians to, …

Fritz: Yeah, yeah, yeah! Shame on you! “Code words”, come on! What code words? s there a code book somewhere that shows the code word and what it really meant? Why not? You don’t have anything like that! It’s just BS that you are just hatching together to make an argument. And a very bad argument! Is there a code book somewhere?

Ryan: There’s no code book, but if there were that number, like over a million that were transported to Russia, then even though there was an Iron Curtain you would certainly find some of those people.

Fritz: If you were free to look hard enough we would find them., you know, it used to be, …

Eric: We would.

Fritz: … That when I was young that there were only eight thousand Jews left in all of Poland. You know, that the client the standard claim was actually made with regard to Vienna. That there were only eight thousand Jews left after the war, in all of Vienna. Well, I must of met all of them. Because I lived in Vienna from time to time and there were plenty of Jews there, all over the place and very prominent positions, running the major newspaper there. There was no shortage of Jews in Vienna, or in Poland, when I was there. There were at least eight thousand Jews just in Krakow alone! OK! Now should I have interviewed, a demographic study? I wish I could have of all the Jews in Poland. But I can tell you one thing. None of them are wearing kaftans and these ugly black coats that they were wearing before the war. OK?

And when they were shipped to Germany to work in factories they weren’t wearing their kaftans and black coats either.

And when they had the chance to blend in and pretend that they were Gentiles, or Christians that’s what they did! Because lots of people hated the Jews and rightly so for having brought about World War Two! The Jewish declaration of war against Germany in 1933 already was, to my mind, the beat the Jews! They had damn good reason to be angry at the Jews!

[Image — click to enlarge] Declaration by organized jewry of war on Germany on Fri, March 24, 1933.

Ryan: I’d like to bring up an interesting anecdote just to cool things down a little. You know, I’ll let you address, during the war just pretended to be Chinese and that’s how like, fortune cookies are actually from Japan. Now they’re in all the Chinese restaurants, but, because there wasn’t a clear date after the war where they could suddenly go, “Oh yeah, we’re actually Japanese!” so they continued to run Chinese restaurants, even as Japanese. So, Jews pretending to be Christians is plausible I suppose. Go ahead [Eric], I just wanted [to mention] that little anecdote.

Eric: So all the witnesses, all the physical evidence points to mass extermination at these sites, …

Fritz: You’re lying! The same lie over and over again! I’m going to keep on interrupting when you do that, …

Ryan: … Tell me one quick forensic evidence, …

Fritz: All of the eyewitnesses, he says.

Eric: Yes absolutely! There’s no eyewitness who describes transits through Treblinka, Belzec, or Sobibor. There is zero eyewitness! Can you tell me one?

Fritz: I can’t give you any of those, but I give you plenty of so-called eyewitnesses to the alleged gassings!

Eric: But why did they lie?

Fritz: They did lie! Let me try to share. There are plenty of so-called eyewitnesses to the alleged gassings at Treblinka, all clearly did lie! Again and again! When the claim was that the bodies were blue as Kurt Gerstein claimed, he was lying! Very simple.

[Image] Kurt Gerstein (11 August 1905 – 25 July 1945) was a German SS officer and member of the Institute for Hygiene of the Waffen-SS and Head of Technical Disinfection Services. In 1945, following his surrender, he wrote the Gerstein Report covering his experience of the “Holocaust“. He died, an alleged suicide, while in French custody.

Eric: So Fritz, there are witnesses that describe mass transits to the Russian East.

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One wants to call the weather, because liars. Including Germans for it’s want to call the witnesses liars. He wants to deny the physical evidence of these promotions gets into trouble in my life I have known people who were at the Russian front to assure the trains of Jews going to the east. OK that was less like what I hear it’s the woman soldier who was at the breast look tough strawberries Apple, or any number of other major crossing points would have seen plenty of Jews on trains going to the east. Well what year is it important to know is what year this happened. Well like you’re talking about Dad is that close enough.

You want the parents of these people want to look at labor as contraband if you are of the I who told me that his name is France. Frank should be a woman. Of France there were forced laborers sent to quote Russian east through our shores actually through Auschwitz actually in a Baltic state that’s not who we’re talking about already flies in the face of what you’ve been claiming no no it’s not.

You’re talking talking about right. None of them were transited through for blanket Belzec, or Sobibor and that is camps run a different ally different railroad line going basically north to south south to north. OK so the train stretch was from my Donek, or liberal and up to all Kenya. And those three camps were along that line along the old Polish so we had borderline. OK That was a very logical demarcation Alliance for controlling typhus which was the real big killer during the war. You haven’t even acknowledged that typhus was a serious problem for Jews and non Jews in Poland and Eastern Europe generally it was the big killer. So there’s actually an interesting story about one Jewish girl translated to the Russian east you could say. I showed this story to the moderator of the committee for open debate on the Holocaust. He said it’s proof that.

You know she this is a woman Caroline called Girl. Caroline Cohn. Who was sent to Sobibor. And I showed this to the man and he said oh that’s proof. She was sent to Minsk as the story says right. Already. However, it’s true. Caroline only said I think what he wanted for so before was even though. I’m sorry if she was sent from Berlin to Minsk in one nine hundred forty one before Sobibor was even open. She was sent back from the men’s ghetto.

To Sobibor where. Recently a pendant others was found for it’s why was this girl sent back from means to Sobibor they have physical evidence that she was there she was never seen again. What happened to this girl you don’t know that she was never seen again you think she was that was she going to you didn’t find any evidence that she was seen again. She might have been in Brooklyn all slushing New York at the end of the year. I know it doesn’t matter, but she certainly was killed in a gas chamber and somebody that you were else. You haven’t come up with a good reason to see either been. A few course all of the witnesses for some reason, or a list of maybe, because they had some kind of works for her and some people were aware she could fit. That’s all there were lots of Jews shipped to places like Minsk and like Uncle Mike Gernhardt truck versus what’s actually in the US. I’m not sure that’s making a lot of noise can you stop that it’s all right. Yeah. I did. I mean, the trouble hearing the two of you also.

Now it’s better now. Yeah just don’t trust. OK.

Anyway. At any rate it was Eric one particular girl that she was killed. No I mean. Well if you look at all the available evidence that all of the people cry bill that’s all, because all the physical evidence of mass cremation bone fragments found at the site cremation found at these sites. All described mass gassings shows, you know, this isn’t even a seriously exactly these bone fragments as to what the cause of death was if there are any and sound when they should it shows these bone fragments are of people killed in history you know.

Well there’s no reason to deny all of them claim good reason. Captain I think I’ve given you plenty of good reason to dislike the so called Guest it was that you’re fantasizing about never existed.

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They could possibly have worked so he says that if you put people in a close concrete Wellman pipe and exhausted couldn’t possibly have worked. I don’t know if would look like the way your system. I’ve told you that it’s no sense. I don’t understand what you’re talking about you could kill anyone in a close concrete room if you pipe an exhaust. Ensuring that let’s you keep killing it’s really not doing it right out there. But sure. Well that’s much more likely, but there’s a couple That’s right. It’s that it was claimed easily insurance what do you do you write it was also you want to create a straw man and it seems like nobody should Yeah yeah and there’s your whole case full support when one looks at the specifics against charges you have that specifically it’s claimed at all, but I don’t understand what you’re talking about your other constantly you don’t is a. About why that’s nice of you to look at that that’s true. I was just going to talk about I guess guys for a second. OK. If you’re things going back and forth. I like Eric saying I witnesses. Why would he been this guy story I mean, all these eyewitnesses are saying this and maybe they’re all going on. And all of them first place. Right OK not everybody, but they’re obviously a number of people. Either concocted this story, or actually saw people being gassed right. If there was really no way if it really wasn’t diesel and it was like that. Surely there should have been red bodies yet there aren’t accounts for that. So either it was diesel, or it definitely couldn’t have been gasoline, because there are any reports that accurately how the bodies let every single one of those bodies are cremated, you know, whenever someone, or something so diesel Eric is saying would have worked, you know, you can make it better gas chamber, because you can always make something a little better doesn’t mean they didn’t have a crude one in a bomb shelter, or whatever, because if you do that with diesel it will and then you’re saying well not. OK maybe it wasn’t three minutes but. They would still try that at the mains and if this back and forth, you know, it’s fair. Well these the exhaust look and the entire history of this is of the use of diesel engines which goes back to the east and I did twenty, you know, many cases there are people just accidentally, or otherwise from diesel exhaust the idea. Eric I believe you pointed to one I believe you point to some others, but like I said this is a straw man. This is a straw man just real diesel exhaust usage Yammer getting trucks, for example, of people stuck all over the you to put in their trucks in order to allow the air conditioner to run, because there is only one case of a person to well you possibly from diesel exhaust and it turns out to be a bogus case as well.

If we have all the rest of the world in the last hundred years. There’s only one other case of a person possibly having died of diesel and still it’s OK So even with these elite engines even in a closed chamber makes for a little sad, because for one thing it’s like what’s actually cooked. It’s a lot of oxygen as you’re running in it and very heavy load so as it hasn’t left the sense of any mass murder. The decent story is just like even if you could conceivably kill people in wits with a kid like so sad. So it’s technically absurd for it’s first of all I do not accept that the evil gas was used as I said, the closest I’ll accept August at. The close is witnesses all describe petrol being used there. You’re creating a straw man. Yes I have to carefully talk a lot about the security officer who also claimed at length that he’s witnessed the gassing of I think eight hundred people. So he’s one witness. You see the Germans told had a different story. It was diesel according to him and his story as many used to little sleep by the fast majority of Holocaust scholars like yeah I’d made by the people who are highly regarded Leo was probably still bird, for example, and others again and again they referred to her first sight. He was German and who claimed it was easily joyously been again and his story did certain to turn into these all these leads, or else the cetera et cetera and that actually it was accepted by the whole world practically until about 2008 when even the United States government officially still claimed that it was diesel exhaust that those claims are absurd.

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You are a pack of lies first of all you liar. Kurt Kirk Erskine only visited the camp for less than a day he was a person in a wristwatch with a stopwatch in his hand he showed the age thing. So, how did, you know, he saw me and I’m going to knew it was diesel exhaust and not, because he was a mining engineer himself and you can tell if it’s in these legions from now on if, you know, anything about cars which I doubt you’ll recognize he’s a legend for the salvage first of all, because if it’s a rapid fire of many many explosions. That’s how, you know, it’s a diesel and you’re going to have to open the hood to tell that it’s a piece and then Jim OK let’s for the sake of argument except for it’s claim that diesel was used. However, Fritz you did write an argument. That’s what I claim my claim is that these lists. You said all I claimed sex for girls sign and the others are so you liars. First of all you did write an article describing how long it would take to kill someone with a kill groups of Jews with a diesel exhaust engine it was under half an hour under load under certain conditions correct. Well not quite I quite like that at all. Really I didn’t even try stopping to get the article it read for it for a change read something I had a while brought it up by. Yeah well how long would it take to kill people and with the diesel engine in a closed concrete room I mean, you describe in your article less than forty five minutes less than forty loads of ten has a number of things like how small the room is constant the real chili ingredient is a diesel exhaust is the carbon monoxide at all, but the temperature that you reach inside the room once the temperatures above one hundred ten degrees, or one hundred twenty degrees. People will be dead. I know like flies. But that’s to use these changes to see God I was just trying futilely Christmas strategic commodity for the Germans, but plenty of it. I have to about the fact that John stews and I think I’m saying made from wood chips from the place they had literally hundreds of thousands of trucks that generated their own substantial concentrations of carbon dioxide those things would have made sense for a last word. I’ve said that again and again make sure it’s all of them my website will all of my essays and I’ve pushed some for you to just have a little guess execution take knowledge if they did you ever wanted to against anybody, but the guy with the producer gas vehicles which generated carbon dioxide directly from wood chips into concentrations of carbon dioxide gas is up to thirty five percent. You can could have killed lots and lots of people very easily very cheaply just by using one chips made from ordinary wood. You could have gotten almost anywhere in the construction and Polish that would make the perfect Central Committee mass murder, but to use diesel engines and some ship an intermediate step is just plain nuts just like all the rest of your claims. Yes no it’s OK with you. Well I’m sorry. So what about while I can make up. A claim any artist. I mean, like my profile is that what I call what I believe is not to claim how short a time that acts against me as against Germans who were camps as you should stop making ad hominem attacks yourself. I don’t mean they’re easy to say why. He actually believes.

Go and so what it says it gauging in amounts to a thought experiment how to build a better gas chamber. That you often make should not read this. Homicidal gas you have been designed better isn’t in dispute. In the total absence of witnesses claiming Jews were not gassed. So you can so Book one and bells. And the absence of any witnesses describing mass transit through these sites to the Russian East which is your radical audit of how to build a more efficient. Yes chamber is totally meaningless.

Well. Well there was something happened I mean, I can’t I can’t say no one was gassed at the train station. I just left from, because no one really I guess now is going to bring it up, you know. A really good analogy brought in so I think that these places such as Treblinka Belzec and Sobibor there are so called fake railroad. Well wait signs so.

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These individuals that. Germans themselves through were some of them are actually free men after the war. Friend Stangl friends. Josef Oberhausen, or another primary defendants could have easily said What are you talking about we can guess anyone return we recruit routinely transited these Jews here and here. Maybe a look. Vive Pinsky and Vilnius to the locations listed on the supposed fake railway sign so. Well just, you know, they so that witnesses could not say the kind of things that they might have said during all this was staged. Also if they see your side statement it was not able to speak freely at the Nuremberg trial for example. Otherwise I’m sure he would have given them an earful. But these post-war trials were all carefully rigged so that he would. German defendant could always be heard saying what the prosecution wanted him to hear the Auschwitz trials in Germany and sixty’s were thoroughly discussed by Dr Wilhelm stately in his book. I can’t I think it was called Auschwitz and he described how the witnesses were carefully chosen first of all if they were going to, or if they were likely to give supporting evidence. If a witness was unlikely to give supporting evidence he couldn’t testify they blocked him if, in fact, from testifying one German commandant from Auschwitz Eric. There actually was with diet before he was able to testify at the house and it’s trials in Germany in the early one nine hundred sixty S. These proceedings after the war were all very carefully controlled just like the witchcraft trials in the late Middle Ages nineteen and sixteen ninety three and so forth were all carefully controlled if you want to believe. Perhaps that these trials were open and so for the nonsense that your image trials even today in Germany are not open the way they should be at all. You can’t just get up there and denounce the liars who are in the courtroom and expect your testimony to ever be heard from again. That’s the way things are done and it’s a disgrace. But we can look into the allegedly Yes chambers to see if they would have even worked and the eleven. Regarding those yesterday was are absurd totally absurd before anything clearly yesterday on it and so it will I says reclaim the corpses are blue, or didn’t show any color at all, or even yellow, or other colors other than red they are liars. There’s no escaping that so. So the deniers call all Jewish. Polish Russian Ukrainian and other witnesses to gassing and mass shooting liars. Let’s talk about these Germans for it’s want to say they’re just on trial. They were tortured there though. There’s that the excuse is that for some reason these Germans never had the courage to defend their airing their nation’s innocence I tell you from the U.K, you know, I tell you from the nick perspective of a political prisoner This is so highly unlikely it becomes impossible. You can point your building prisons have to ignore it. Well that’s a political rant that it’s fresh. A certain point of view. That’s what I have gets crushed. I do know about this point, you know, and you can tell you can point. Norm very trial point just I mean, you have people who could have just told somebody you’re in there, you know, when they’re eighty years old, or something right. I mean. Yeah I would like to go into that role. Quick. I mean, first you could point to revisionist themselves who often serve lengthy prison sentences and the majority do not fold and continue a proprietary of their innocence after release. Even the face of further prosecution. So the revisionist claim was it so impossible for all of these Germans severed tell the truth about the so-called gas chamber hoax so let’s look at the case of Joseph Ober Hauser who was stationed at Belzec a sermon ation camp filmed in cloudland Simmons’ film show up over Hauser was a free man after sent serving his sentence working as a bartender in Germany. It’s entirely unbelievable for me to accept these Germans could find no way to release the truth about this supposed hoax. For instance Oberhausen himself a free man working as a bartender could have written a lengthy explanation proving Belzec was a transit camp only to be published by trusted confidant friends of lawyers, or family after his death as Ryan just said. Here any direct witness of these gassings could have explained where these massive transports of Jews in the hundreds of thousands were

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Why would he have known White why do you. I think he was probably a very small guard that most probably couldn’t even read he might have even know how to write. More than his name. I guess your that’s a good excuse. Are you saying he’s illiterate he he. My dear. I think he decided never to protest his wife why is the miters drinking buddies. Why fight city hall when City Hall has all the guns in the control. He might have been starving even more than he was at the end of World War Two in Germany. OK. People were struggling just to survive for many years after the war you think they’re going to come up and say oh I was there and it was nothing like that some people did my own.

Distant relation friends buoyant did, but he didn’t get anywhere. He was lucky he didn’t get fired from his government job, but if he had spoken out publicly the way you suggest he would have been fired. He would have been on the street and his family are going to been starving my my other will I understand this very hard trial berthed he had been in the S. And S. At Minsk managing a small closing factory employing about three thousand Jews according to the story. I have in Minsk OK when the war ended he was thrown into a concentration camp in radians Boric and he spent several years there until he was somehow could somehow show that he had been rehabilitated and reeducated and then he was able to go back to his wife and his one surviving child and makes well over an existence for himself, but he couldn’t get a job that was worth a damn any time for the rest of his life. You think, you know, that person and I protest when I don’t. Oh and I just don’t know much about the subject and so there are also those who are essentially guaranteed the death sentence including at a White man and others who have nothing to lose and everything to gain by producing evidence for a vote proving the so-called transit camp theory the revisionists like Fritz make the NSA’s an elite military force feared throughout the entire world into a big softies they claim that the S.S. Did not met kill masses of civilians and didn’t have the guts, or brains. There are literate after all. So I don’t leave your primary notes in my mouth. Shame on you shame I use a lot of your jewelry all over the place. It’s not a place in which character you said OK how is there was a literate he didn’t have the brains. I didn’t say he was he might have been speculation as most careful. Try to be a little bit careful about the things you are saying you’re obviously very reckless in the actual say should try to make You’re both a little bit right here. I mean, it would have been very hard as a lot of political pressure to shut your mouth. They lost the war they were, you know, death camps after the war starvation exaggerated stuff like the Internet and it would have been much harder than it is today saying anything, because it’s not going to matter are you going to say something and maybe the media people around you hear about it and then you’re just going to go to jail. You’re Fired and It’s going to change. Nowadays you can say something you can go all around the world. You might have an effect but. Much less motivation and it would be now all that there’s another. There should be someone saying that would have done it anyway. Out of this fight to see what had happened in their country after the war to say Dammit these are transit camps and write a letter, or something. It seems like we did it, because they like, but there’s not that many, but there is big here who had been a commandant at our suites was more than prepared to say precisely that. And then for some mysterious reason see Guy just a few days before he was supposed to testify at the a big Auschwitz trial in Germany at the early one nine hundred sixty S. OK So look at Rudolph those little has been kept in prison for his for his lifetime given a life in prison and when all he had done was try to make peace with Britain. OK. He was a prison you think he could have made a lengthy essay about how he knew nothing about any gay extermination plans, or something like that, of course, not it would have been totally destroyed by his captors.

And that’s the way these things were stark they forced this young Vironment so that the any real testimony to the contrary.

Is totally destroyed. Joseph Wilhelm shakily was punished for his book he was nearly ruined. He barely got old age pension.

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Crits I think there’s a better explanation is that these oh you don’t have a lot happened. You don’t have it you don’t even have a gas chamber that really could have worked the way you allege be easily exhaust, or gasoline engine exhaust you don’t know what you’re talking about you want to be ashamed of yourself. I go back to kill the garden and study the subject that’s beginning again this, you know, every I understand your passion about the topic, but kind of personal insults aren’t really an argument. They’re entirely justified they’re entirely justified, because before I don’t listen to him insult the S.A.’s, or Germans in general as he is doing. I’m going to insult him. I think asking for it deserves it. I understand you’re using I don’t think they’re conscious Germans, or anything like that you. Yes Yes Well this is a problem with this kind of topic like people want to we want to have these kind of civil debates, but it’s difficult. The reason that people don’t want to debate, or don’t want to voice their opinion on these subjects is, because they know that they will be met with such visceral acts on their person, you know, I fight. I mean, anti Zionists, for example, and Al’s speak up for Palestinian rights and say what the Israelis are doing and I, of course, I’m going to be met with waves of people accusing me of being anti sematic in this and that and that kind of personal attack keeps prevents people from speaking up on these topics and let’s see if Eric’s wrong with safety is you’ll never know that unless you have these debates in civil and you give them some evidence that there’s mine and vice versa if you’re wrong. You’ll know that if, you know, you’re constantly just personally attacked. Because it just ends up in a shit throwing contest and it’s entertaining and all, but it doesn’t really, you know, move to mark, or anywhere in figuring out the truth matters. Well frankly I’m more than inclined to agree with you completely. Ryan I agree. I know it looks bad one likes them is critical as I am about Eric, but he’s just plain misguided for emotional reasons Scott I can’t even get you kill me, because I was that’s not a little one more little detail in the United States you actually have guessings to death people of interest of full were guilty of murder and maybe rightly so. Whatever the last guess execution. In the entire world occurred right here in Arizona. In one nine hundred ninety nine, you know, long it took to kill that one poor guy. And the idea. I don’t know if it was just a non sequitur for it is no it’s not no it’s not the same. Well you know.

It’s not it’s not sequitur at all it took eighteen minutes to kill one person in a well designed gas chamber here in the United States. Eighteen minutes and I had a claim to that you might find interesting is the reason they’ve changed sort of the method of getting prisoners and the reason they’ve moved away from the electric chair is, because they actually harvest and sell their organs and so they don’t want to destroy their organs that’s why I think, you know, way from frying them in May may, or may not have a reason for why the gas and differently to try and preserve as much as possible, because well that’s likely nation, but it’s not the official explanation. The official isolation is that it is a kind of cruel and unusual punishment. Yet it.

They don’t care about that look at the people are the organs OK whatever whatever whatever, but the last guess execution took eighteen minutes in the United States and most many of the guests executions in the United States took as long as eighteen minutes as well. Other guests executions. So it’s not some sort of quick easy way to get rid of somebody. If you do a mask gassing it gets kind of messy. Especially if it’s done in a large room where the little guy every little I use like might be hiding in the corner lying down on the ground so that the guests the cyanide which is lighter than air can stay well above his head. If you use anything like the electorate guessing technology, you know, I kind of situation it would have been a disaster. It would have been a mess that would’ve been a lot so rocky a little angry Jews left afterwards to welcome the guy opening day. Yes chamber door it would have been a catastrophe, but the Germans knew how to do it right and they had the technology, but nothing like what the Germans had in their stock of technological.

Was applied for the a legit mass homicidal gassings.

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It’s very different. It’s a very different technology the Germans had the technology for mass guessings with cyanide if they had ever wanted to, but it’s totally different from the idiotic technology that is alleged for Auschwitz for mass gassings, or for any of the other camps. The Germans had a system with forced yes circulation throughout the gas chamber, but that was the way to do it. The Germans knew that and we can practically read the lines of the German technicians and experts on this field in the German literature and even through McGrady sent in American language literature American Sign of a company. Actually, used to cycle on the end cycle on disquiets for a few only geisha and throughout the United States and it worked very, very well and, in fact, in some of the literature now published on Rodeo. You can actually read how to make your own gas chamber it’s not that hard, but it involves some rational technology using force. I guess circulation to disperse the gas throughout the entire chamber. Otherwise you end up with something that’s very, very slow comparable to what was used to fumigate barracks which required about twenty four hours of exposure so that the science I could get out of the ground ules, or that this, or it’s whatever and kill off everything in the barracks. But in a real gas chamber you would have had forced yes circulation and that’s totally different from what’s even alleged in any of the so-called cycling I’d be guest chambers anywhere in Auschwitz Birkenau and I was when you look into the claims specifically about guessings they all turned out. Beat garbage garbage doesn’t mean you couldn’t possibly kill people. Yes you can like it. While some very different kind of technology from any of the garbage that is alleged in the Holocaust literature only has several lousy seamers I guess was what was the gas chamber building then if it wasn’t a gas chamber morgue. What was the US official Can I just for you here. I’m just I’m like I’d like to respond first so Fritz described it it would have been very messy. This is actually what the witnesses did describe it as a very messy tangle bodies feces menstrual blood all over the floor. There’s a lot of need to go live so prevention alive after twenty minutes, or even five minutes. Well it’s all stuff that’s not lots of people, but there have been instances where they did describe as you say a little Isaac alive in a gas chamber. So it absolutely does not contradict what you claim it was a did very messy people process and sometimes there would be one straggler. But as you say it’s totally possible to spot for example. Is absolutely lying about her even gas chamber how well she lying and the others are not all maybe she just she was out. She’s the one I mean, I don’t really have to defend her wise, but what I wish I would like is, you know, well what is right in line doesn’t mean everyone else has. But if I were her justify this if I were to justify her lies she did her mother and sister appear to have been gassed Unfortunately they’re not alive to tell their stories. Well then they must have been guessed if they are if they’re not alive to tell their story. Then that’s proof that they must have been guests according to Eric. Oh yes as you say the DA was segregated and separate and separated as are unable to work. I don’t even know what your point is you say they did work it makes them. Well they may have died of typists, or starved, or I don’t know he’s saying that these toddlers and elderly people did work. It makes no sense. First of all there were separate get separated and segregated as on able to work and says they did work. Well some of them did. I’m sure sure there’s a there’s all kinds of stuff that could be done. Even children can do work, but these children were not able to make that thirty miles trite to the railroad station and live it’s so somebody decided well you guys better stay here and wait for the Russians and maybe they’ll take care of you and the old women and old men I suppose who were unable to make that a long foot long try conflict in the winter in the cold and snow. To the life it’s thirty miles Well, you know, that’s a that’s a hike take stayed in Auschwitz also.

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And when the Russians came day waved to them and told them all kinds of stories and made happy talk with the Russians the Russian women. I mean, the women left in Auschwitz they were all right. They were all right by the Russian side was their reward for having decided not to go West with the retreating Germans and there was plenty of testimony is that like that. Stats for side the point the point I’m making is that it was THEIR MONEY program not all Welsh which I added and so on. Second I can just interrupt. So Fritz is which Fritz for his point is that those separated and segregated as are able to work photographed in a group obviously unable to separate is on able to work actually did work. That’s his point. Well I don’t make them any work let’s let’s get that straight. I don’t know what they might have done minor things like sweep the barracks anything any number of things could be done by people who are older and so forth. Help. Keep track of things and a number of things can always be done by people if they’re functional at all. While there are those who do know what happened, or where these people separated and segregated as unable to work were last seen alive. And gassed you jump to these people you jump again to the liberation of Auschwitz are to debunk these photographs that you said as these elderly and children their autographs are since for their right so they would have been exterminated before being OK, but I brought it up. I brought it thinking really, or even if the gas chambers had not been operating they could have been just shot going to save a lot of food for those months two months. Until the Russians actually saw if you can see that these first of all your disregarding entire purpose gassing series. The reason gassing ceased was to keep the Jews alive so there weren’t wouldn’t be as many recover repercussions against the German people themselves result. Absolutely. Let me check. Absolutely. Would be very. It would. Certainly incite this so it’s to find Mass piles of shot children and elderly at Auschwitz to further kill and kill German. People do you concede now that the those in the copyright children aren’t reading this is very interesting article although you have your now mean mind reading Schuller and the Germans for their reason for stopping the gassings, or the electorate guessing since November. You’re really fantastic. I am so sad earlier, because like I said I want the heart of the issue here are there once you leave that people are caring for a girl quick. Let me ask this. Are you concerned I think it’s going to help you make your point to you. Dispassionately just whatever I don’t care who’s right. I just want to know what’s right. I would like to know, because you said well these pictures of elderly and children suffer after they were orders to stop guessing. Are there survivors who, or children, or elderly who are there, or order things. Elie Weisel their own. Well really was first forced labor. Fred C. Was holding office forced labor. Now let’s stick to this point before you jump to the next thing. What kind of forced labor. Do you think Elie Weisel was ever likely to do when he got to Belsen, or why you could see the guy was a physical misfit at the very least I doubt if he did a stitch of work when he got to Germany. Well one second, you know, I’m sure we all did forced labor to be honest I he was sent to the bono work labor camp a subcamp about should model what his father was even lifeforce to work. Was he a life if you think you think it’s why many of the latter is there the cooling towers, or anything like that. So it was a physical right. OK from source on I dare say let’s talk about the logic here for it says Elie Weisel teenager. Perfectly suited for work was able to work, but first he says he’s talking sense on science part yes sorry. Perfectly unsuitable for work. However, these elderly men women and children children were. Suitable for work right.

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Well they could do some work I won’t argue that, but some work.

He might have done something like just swept the floor. It’s not much else.

OK great. So I don’t understand your illogical point here. If you tried to do it and he was working and I showed you. He was working in you finally agreed to it. OK, because that’s what worked what didn’t work. L. You still do when he got to Germany. Tell me that you are not talking. We’re not talking I just look like you. You mean like.

Talking about we talk about modern weights which is subcamp of Auschwitz. But what do you think it was a pipefitter. He worked there. I’m he was not a pipefitter, but he and his father worked there, you know. To be honest, because of what happened recently try to push it in the back of my mind I don’t really talk about exactly. I really not to up on the subject of what we sell did, but as you say he was selected for forced labor along with his father his mother and younger siblings were much like those shown in the Auschwitz Album which were segregated unable to work useless leaders and all evidence points to were gassed.

So why wasn’t all you sell guest when they making he was used for forced labor at the bono work we were camped subcamp of that was for what what do you think he could have done well aside from something clerical maybe a little bit of bookkeeping keeping track of the elbow fittings and the keys she fittings something like that. What else do you think he might have done that was so valuable for the job, or war effort to keep to justify keeping him alive giving him shelter. Well I’m sort of you sort of coming to agree with me that those segregated as totally. I don’t know that they were really segregated. But you keep talking about some documents that ordered them to be segregated and separated. I don’t see any I’ve never seen any documents like flat at all. There’s photographs of them being separate except separate and segregated and there’s a photograph of them and then were separated so that when they went to the showers the women didn’t stay with the men and the men stay on the men stare at the women the women were given showers. Separately from the man. That’s not so surprising, you know, I know this is a modern liberated age and so forth, but in those days people kept the women separate from the men well it’s not some sort of showers. Oh my. Isn’t that terrible those evil evil Nazis some of the women from the men as well that were sending them to the showers and sending babies, or children. Maybe separately again to different showers. Oh lawdy those evil evil Nazis separating people from each other. Oh well they don’t seem I can. I can see that brilliant points of us. Eric you really are so brilliant I hadn’t seen that before they separated from the men they separated the old people from the young people maybe, because the older people were not likely to do I useful work for a while. So let them sit on a chair in a bunk, you know, Barack somewhere. Oh well that is so fiendish on those part of those Germans. Well I’m not talking first of all you’re only devolving into all this emotional stuff I’m talking about how I’m going to like you. It’s not sense from you and it was really I’m talking about this photograph I’m not talking about separation of sexes I’m talking about a photograph of mixed sexes of those as you say having a picnic outside of crematorium five. These are all mixed sexes. There are mixed.

Of those unable to work. Well you don’t know that they’re on they will work you and I, you know, make your points be a little more careful. I don’t know that they are unable to work. Maybe they are maybe not. I which picture you talk about I have the Auschwitz Album in front of me right here. Tell me which I think you mean are you are you denying Are you denying there were those elected on able to work. Maybe I don’t know I don’t know, but I do know that none of them were killed in yesterday’s birth as well didn’t for them being segregated based order, or on autographs. That’s all we all witness testimony photographs and evidence points to it always being separate separated and segregated as unable to word These people never show up anywhere else. Those separated segregated as on and able to work lasting again outside of these gas chambers.

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Talking nonsense I mean, your family are looking at pictures here at home and it’s gathering so yeah I’ll give you a page number here are the kids on page one fifty two and on page one fifty three. I’ve used these pictures before sitting around you see the kids are actually looking at each other’s me old C.J. You got a peanut butter sandwich and all I got was a cheese sandwich. Maybe we can trade then dimpling quite peacefully. There’s no sign of fear, or terror on the faces of any of them. Not one. Look I think it’s no that’s right. That isn’t true at all. There’s a woman yes it’s true. Yes it is this notion talks are, you know, if people are terrified they showed that pretty easily just by Riley they run as fast as they can and wherever like wherever there’s any kind of an opening for daylight these people are not terrified at all when people like you say that you’re simply lying. Sure. But, you know, me talk. Let me talk for about ten minutes here. I talk to try to get this in your article there. Yes, or yes there is yes it is it is a photograph in my article. First of all these people are surrounded by electrified barbed wire fence in the pen. Of crematorium four and five. That’s all there is in this specific area of the camp it’s called Birkenau it’s the Burke Birch forest, you know, What you can absolutely see this last time he filled our guest you run it through the fence you run through the fence as far as fast as you possibly can you try to get over the fence you try to get under the fence. If you’re that terrifies you do stupid things like that the fence may be unbeatable may may not be possible to climb over, but you still try if you’re afraid of being gassed to death. People panic going to run. That’s a no sir. Reaction. I don’t see that he flung death row like that. Try to kill, because there are absolutely reports of those who ran to the yeah like over, or between yes yes yes that’s it. You have no real evidence, or anything of the story. Well reported by CNN used him doing, or saying now you’re a mind reader and, you know, their motivations I mean, we don’t know, but I can tell you prisoners who are on death row don’t like try to just kill the police they just walk and Except. That they don’t usually commit suicide before they get lethal injection, or the chair whatever so, you know, if they’re going to get in. I’m not going to, you know, if they are likely we hung by the neck. They often jewel and, in fact, the standard probably procedure in prisons is to shut the entire prison down when they know when the prisoners know that someone is about to be hung, or executed. That’s a standard procedure, because they have riots. All the other of for instance in the camp. Even for the prison they riot. When they think something like that is going on. They don’t sit passively in their cells waiting to get the word that. Such and Such a person was guest to death, or Hong, or electrocuted people panic and they riot. That’s the normal reaction when they’re at Tara. But you don’t see like that in any of these pictures and Eric’s claims to the contrary are sheer nonsense these people are very relaxed like you and you, you know, route rather relaxed way sitting casually showing no signs that they’re going to be gay and still are tortured are treated horribly and all just look at the pictures it will open my coffee take a few cups of coffee before you look at these pictures. There’s nothing in there to support the claim that anyone he was killed in gas chambers and things which you’re looking at well which was a much smaller human being. Well Eric just by Eric Yeah I mean

I’d like to talk for about two minutes without being interrupted with the motional ad hominum attacks. Yeah yeah you try there are and how I know tax of your own and then we can have a more intelligent debate. But I don’t think I’ve done much of that yet. Certainly I have to say you certainly have. Certain So we’re talking about the photographs and if they’re just going to tell us once. OK let’s see let’s talk about the photograph of the woman being held by three men being manhandled in my thinking and writing from the entrance of crematorium five. You can see criminal for in the background for it’s talks about writing things like this really tore him for in the background was blown up in a prisoner revolt the son the commander when I was another.

Nearby Q. And A camp blew up the crematorium to resist the mass gassings operations.

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So there were rioting there were people who ran to the barbed wire there were people resisting in this specific photograph you do see a woman resisting she’s being held against her will by three men apparently Jewish at the steps of crematorium five. There’s no other places photograph could happen. It shows crematorium four parallel and just. And she is absolutely not having a picnic in her time she lost her luggage. You might be worried. Where did my luggage go. I said OK.

So her her her two hands are restraint on two points by two men opposing her and there’s one man in the background there moving towards a photographer who was standing at the entrance of crematorium five. She’s not asking where her luggage why and she said I don’t know that you don’t know anything of the sort, or you create really sort of ridiculous claims like they’re having a picnic, or that she lost her life. Many of them there are many signs of right below that picture in my own article you see a child who does have a face of distress on him. He’s got a part of his clothing on he certainly does not look to be having a picnic another woman is looking towards him just to look there’s others and, or the one of the woman sitting down there sitting down in many ways, because they were transit in the three days some of them were standing up on the box cars for three days. Having to oh my goodness, you know, they had to urinate on themselves on the way to the camp. Oh it was so terrible. My goodness you think maybe the Nazis could have just put them on the road and forced them to march for. They actually that might have been that alternative they could have saved the railroads for the war effort in that case, but they actually transported these Jews who were there to this terminate Inderal road car as they could have guessed it right there in Budapest many of these Jews were supposedly hung Garion Jews in Budapest they had an excellent guest chamber for fumigating entire row trial at those fumigation chambers the Budapest guest chamber is the subject I’ve discussed in many of my essays were perfectly excellent guess chambers that would have killed everyone in those railroad cars in the right there at Budapest Why ship these Jews one hundred twenty miles to Auschwitz if all you want to do was yes them, but there are some pretty critism again proposing better more efficient ways they could have what is short of they could’ve would’ve should’ve done it. The bottom line is I heard. That’s what not for tickle thinkin. Thanks. In your job they were going to use the majority of them for labor. And not some were strong, but you could have made the selection right there in, you know, a pest, or somewhere in Slovakia. Why ship the useless ones to Auschwitz. If all you’re going to do is kill land as Eric claims you could have saved all those train fares for really important people, you know, for the pipefitters sort of people who could do some serious work to get the Germans. Germans did a lot of inefficient things during a war. This is why they lost, or after all. Right. So you could have always selections right there and you would have passed, or some other location from where they were selecting and shipping Jews I think it’s a logical thing to do just taking the best.

And murders the murders the camp, because people at camps knew what kind of job.

That’s where is often do a lot of logical sure Yeah well the real mass murder is where the Americans when they bombed German cities in World War Two It was a real mass murder is so if you want to talk about mass murder talk about the real one. It’s not the fact that the make believe mass murder as well unfortunately we’re talking about these people such as at Auschwitz that were selected as unable to work segregated, you know, you first told you what they were selected for you don’t cite any documents showing that as selector that this guy for this, or this guy for that. Are you going to get anything trucking about selections. Without any solid evidence whatsoever. Thanks for these so-called eyewitness claims OK we’ve known. And even you admit that many of these eyewitness claims are just bogus they are lawyers so old you have to be a little more scholarly if you’re going to start kind of arguments.

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Let’s talk about scholarly the records we have of those transported out of Auschwitz, or all of the ages and you say you have a table to work able to work out the records yourself a little I yes I have actually I saw them a while researching Irene’s this, but it records. I don’t believe it, but now, you know, that there are records OK you don’t believe there are actually it’s also records, but not the kind of records that you’re talking about. Yeah there are no records at this crime. What happened to those unable to work, because there are gas to decide the Germans. Well they’re all you witness there are no records of people being yes and yet. That would have been something to keep track of you would have at least shown that this guy is no longer around. Anyone he’s gay, you know, So let’s dispose of his. Personal possessions which are kept in Canada, or let’s not, you know, worry about finding a bank for him, or a place for where he might work if a person is killed. You want to keep some sort of a record of it so that you don’t waste time in the woods around the camp running to try to catch him, you know, people did escape from Auschwitz and if they.

If they escape you want to catch him. But you can say, you know, let’s see if, you know, the guy is already dead for it is gone again into this coulda woulda shoulda as we say there’s no records of those people sent anywhere else. All right. Points and I think he actually just chambres all of that right. I want to thank you. When, you know, there’s all all the physical evidence all the eyewitnesses all know your life on the call from the school evidence all the records no nonsense you don’t have that you don’t have to have any physical evidence that anybody was killed in a gas chamber. Oh absolutely. There’s physical evidence you don’t like it that you want to accept. I want to talk critical I know you have no let up since, for example, to show that even one person one corpse found anywhere was of a person killed and I guess you understand. Zach first of all. Well first of all there are the Polish investigation of her blanket they found intact human skulls and neck bones without bullet holes in them. But I have talked personally it’s possible they want to this.

Actually, these mass cremation pits shown in the investigations and photographs and all witness testimony say they don’t have didn’t die of disease I want to how exactly why my opinion. Everybody’s lives are probably told that the already at the very beginning of World War Two typhus and particular years ago we had a brief argument you and I about the fact that you didn’t seem to realize that the typhus epidemic was killing huge numbers of people already in Poland and you thought it was terrible to some way, because I kind of slammed you down for not knowing that if, you know, anything about last fall foliage you would know that typhus was a major killer. That was the real killer in Auschwitz and then other camps not. I mean, I’d like to talk for about two minutes in on her on her.

So this is false. I know all about epidemic tiredness I don’t know I was really about trying to tell me all about trifles I’ll be very patient and listen, because I really want to learn about trifles from, you know. Well I was willing to sort of sort of think that this. First of all what Fred said is not true. It’s an invention he did not quite say with claims I did going into this I was willing to accept that for instance those photographed in mass cremation pits outside of crematorium five may have been Didn’t victims of disease. However, all available evidence including those who took the photographs themselves and those who worked in these gas chambers including Germans themselves to talk all evidence points to guessing at Kurds, or law he talks of he talks about your ally and he is not he told me that before yes yes he is a lawyer I thought they were people starving he said actually.

He was willing to entertain that you can say he’s wrong, but he’s not right for talking us out he says it will be evidence he’s definitely lost he doesn’t know what all the evidence is. It’s absolutely all the evidence which includes documents includes eyewitnesses who includes R.K.. Logical investigations include also

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Yeah you just don’t like the evidence, because frankly you’re German yourself use you have talked about being a victim of discrimination of your family and after what were you such as that it. My goodness.

There are many revisionists who are Germans themselves who are frankly biased, but do not want to see evidence. Who do not want to accept the evidence they can look at the subject level headed.

You know so I sympathize all about trifles that’s how you started this little chit chat here just now I don’t I don’t except that those bodies that were blank. And those cremation pits that do exist are all types as victims of the large looked at some of them were some of them were from typhus I mean, there are descriptions of those crammed into these train cars that were blanket being pulled out before they can be gassed. I mean, you talk about autopsies how exactly are you going to do an autopsy on cremated ashes and bones fragments to prove cyanide gas and I told you they didn’t find bullet holes in skulls and neck bones as would be consistent with shooting. So that is consistent with being gassed. That is consistent with a quote autopsy. Well frantic pathologists have much more advanced Let’s say I don’t know whether one can tell if the Bulls are going to show cyanide guessing, or carbon dioxide guessing, but one of the reasons for why cremation was actually allowed in Germany. In the early nineteenth. Thirty. It’s was, because even evidence, or even when the person had been poisoned one could careful medical examination. Tell whether that person had been poisoned, or gassed. That was a big issue in the early days of criminalization even in Germany and elsewhere that even crim aided remains could reveal strong evidence of the use of poison to kill a victim. Otherwise cremation was the perfect thing to do you any relative. A wife who were who might have been poisoned you send them right away. It’s a crime authorial and evidence is gone forever and ever. But made it remains can in many cases reveal clear evidence of the use of poison was one of the reasons why crim a shot was even Kermit is in Germany at least and possibly other countries as well. The technology is very sensitive today doesn’t mean every. Poisoned person would be exposed to every corpse of a poison print would be exposed by a careful chemical investigation I don’t know I’m not an expert, but some cases clearly it is the case and even on my miserable TV I do see a TV program supposed crime investigations where they have talked about even created remains showing proof that poison was used at some point by someone, or other and so I don’t rule anything out, but they remain such as they are extra points, or anywhere can be Exuma some day and they examined very, very carefully by. Forensic pathologists and they may. Proves one thing one way, or another. The fact that they don’t have bullet holes in them is already evidence of non execution by firing squad, but the people may have died from typhus nonetheless and that shows itself sometimes in damage to the bones and so don’t rule anything out especially about things you don’t like much about to begin with. Well you just said you’re not an expert on that subject so I know more than you do obviously not actually I mean, I talked about the law. It was actually plenty. Not actually respond I talk. I mean, we’re talking about the logic vary and you are all if you insult like Eric are the same ask for that I can see that. I mean, let’s talk was, you know, the arguments.

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So he talked about a lot. So he talked about the logic of autopsies of car, you know, diesel is petrol, or some sort of petrol, or diesel exhaust. I told him it’s pretty senseless to do autopsies Like I said on those killed in those methods and cremated it is only cremated. I can simply actually say senseless. Well first of all I propose you can actually so some of the flammable substances used to actually cremate the remains are released the same gases that you claim are used in so well that are claimed to have been used inside the gas chamber to look at cremated to ashes and bone fragments and try to determine they were killed by inhaling poison gas.

As he sort of we are sort of conceding the methods used back then, or couldn’t determine that. But you say, because of modern TV shows like C S I, or that they could do that today frankly. All of your case revolves around someone like who has watched these shows such as C.S.I. And want to play an amateur detective in take away all the available evidence eyewitness testimony documents in archaeological investigations photographs and throw it all out the window, because you say wouldn’t have happened exactly the way you say it would have, but no I don’t actually think there’s a way to actually autopsy these ashes and cremated bone fragments and determine they were killed in handling poison gas especially, because carbon and other materials would have been released by the fire itself.

And that’s your theory. Well, you know, that’s not what you’re talking about, you know, you’re no expert. I’m no expert, but I do know that the technology for examining corpses and bolts has advanced enormously. I don’t think I’m overreaching when I say that Mr Bennett in the forty’s. There’s a big difference between most poisons thanking kill somebody and a specific type of gas, because like Eric said there salt your salt. Anyway. Well yeah I mean, logically a fire release is many if not many of the same chemicals that were claimed to use to kill these people be inhalation. If not the exact same chemicals were used as fire starter’s themselves. So it’s illogical to claim autopsies on cremated bones and ashes. To up a somewhat upset. I fail, but some if they are just to show you left like a. Internal organs as would be the case with a mass burial. And when you do open cremations open aircrew Masons you don’t reduce everything to just bone fragments. There’s plenty of tissue left. So if they actually do a serious examination of some very old pixel cremation pits. They may well find something serious. One way, or another on the subject, but they’re obviously not very interested in doing that and you’re obviously not interested either. I think Caroline Christian graves and use them as props for a television series, or show. But wouldn’t, you know, which he respected the wishes of the rabbis and they went and dug up any bishops, or anything about that was rather.

Instead I agree completely. I think really the people in there who are Jewish deli in America and their bosses are all topsy as far as I know they’re autopsied rather routinely when there’s any question as to the cause of death in the here in the United States. A lot of Jews in United States are secular. Right. Right. So what and rightly so, but yeah. Well being. So what means different to me, but I mean, it seems like that would answer things immediately if they would just dig up her blanket and see if there’s a whole bunch ashes, or not. Well it’s that’s already been proven that there are quote a whole bunch of ashes in the Polish investigations and the photographs of these mass graves with ashes and bone fragments and all the bell witness testimony. It’s there are those that just don’t want to accept the evidence and somehow we are seeing things we ask questions we think a little bit about the so-called. All evidence that we West. Maybe this is not right.

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Maybe this is not the way it should have been done. I know that’s terrible. I know that’s evil for many people to even question these stories, but that’s what goes on with sane people when they hear these wild fantastic stories about mass murder and things like that they ask a few questions. That’s very painful and all cord for you. Eric and for people like, you know, it’s called questioning the holocaust not all mind at all. Oh my goodness. People are questioning the Holocaust. Oh well that’s already a sign of evil anti-Semitism. Ratcheting up answer it’s a question and a Holocaust as I’ve determined is realizing that these mass gassings a mass murders such as Bobby are did happen. I think your heart, you know, you haven’t come up with one and I’ll tell you these wild atrocity claims you have zero evidence of mass transit through these camps. Well I don’t care that doesn’t matter. That doesn’t matter you admit it and you don’t care. Yet this is the central issue of the whole cause controversy in twenty seventeen. It’s not an important controversy for me at all. It’s not an issue. I don’t care where these people went they were definitely not killed in these idiotic gas chambers that Jews have actually come cock that they were not killed in gas chambers with diesel exhaust, or gasoline engine exhaust.

That’s the important point. White White White why should I care where the survivors when they went all over the place they went to Brooklyn that Flushing New York Israel whatsoever went to Israel can you do you did you understand that a lot of Jews in Israel at the end of World War Two were from Europe. When how do. Do you suppose that happened.

That they were there reborn.

Where they were reborn somehow after being burned in the guest chair in the Kremlin Torreon pits where they resurrected.

Well Prince you say don’t know when you don’t care you don’t know when you don’t care, because you have no life, or the things I don’t care about the science is easier for you. It’s easier for you have got you. Yes you have you have no answers to this question and this is the one thing. Religion is, or is that they have you focus on what happened to those jewels. I don’t think that’s all that important at the end of not only at the end of the twentieth century there were well over eight million the Holocaust Jewish Holocaust survivors alive in the world according to Sergio Della pergola one million nine hundred three thousand Jewish Holocaust survivors alive in 2003. That’s not some Nazi revisionist talking. That’s a Israeli professional doggerel for you can read his entire reports by the law just using the link on my website just look up search year old. Della pergola it’s unusual name it’s one of the reasons why I meant. I remember it so well, but one million ninety three thousand. That means I think that there were several million Jewish Holocaust survivors from Europe a lot of in Europe and at the end of World War Two. I think that’s an entirely reasonable solution. I don’t know some of them may have may not have been in Eastern Europe, or in Russia. OK. Some of them were hanging out in France in Germany Poland just like a pox mind he had was a jewel. But he was raised by Polish family. In Poland as a child he went to some sort of Christian school and he pretended to be Christian. OK. Clearly he was not killed in a yes chamber.

So why, you know, that right that bothers you. A lot doesn’t it. That I actually have some strong sort. He is a survivor. It’s a proxy Holocaust survivor a lot of it’s not dealing with the specifics of those sent to Treblinka Belzec and so aboard those documented stand there are never seen again. So no one can say you don’t have any evidence you even your own evidence shows that some of these people were definitely seen again. Helen Schwartz was seen again. Pearl what sort of first time she was seen again. So when you say they were never seen again you’re wrong you’re just talking about I’m talking about those sent to the Russian He’s there talking about Helen Schwartz.

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She was sent from Alice stock which is east of her blanket to west supposedly through her blanket to my Donek in one nine hundred forty three. You can fire at any one in nine hundred forty two center blank and sent to the Russian East these are seven hundred thirteen thousand will tell you don’t know what’s. How to hell. It’s what’s get to the east to begin with. Well that’s where she lived for it. Oh OK. Aren’t you. She was there so. So there were Jews in the Soviet East. OK. Were they all just lifelong residents of the East, or is it possible that some of them had been shipped to the east from Germany, or hall, or Europe. Many of them were I know that any body who knows anything about what was going on knows that was earlier and I don’t know that seems like they were just letting, you know, where they shipped from Sobibor and so. So I mean, for a little brings up. Fritz brings up Helen Schwartz and I want to, you know, Tell Fritz. Sorry if you were misled. I was one of the people who brought this Alan Schwarz testimony to the forefront and it’s one of the reasons I’m coming out and talking about this. I don’t like in this lead in I hope I’m not trying to mislead others so this brings up this one. Yeah. Prince brings up this woman who describes being sent from Alice Dr Gronow to her blanket from the east to the West and then being sent, because she and others were useful for forced labor in one nine hundred forty three as small amounts of transports were to my Donek. She does not contradict official story. This is documented and has been documented before I brought these out. Unfortunately Jewish Holocaust experts such as you Irad. Falsely claim absolute such as that everyone sent to these place were killed there are reports of those sent even in between the camps. To clean up, for example, as the camps shut down and small very small amounts of those obviously useful for forced labor being taken off of the trains not continuing on through that he too bad as they say in to the gas chambers where those they witness it witnessed were never seen again. So there are small amounts that did transit through, but they were able to work. So I’m sorry.

For it’s believes that Helen Schwartz.

Disapproves that the revisionists somehow prove the revisionist transit camp theory that all of these transit through Trip Link a Belzec in Sobibor worst actually sent to the Russian East when, in fact, two.

You’re missing everything else you’re mixing things up. I didn’t see anything about Helen Schwartz proves there was shipments of these I don’t know I don’t know if that’s what I’m mixing it with and now we know you don’t. Little facts straight about things I’ve said things that I haven’t said. I know you said you don’t know and you don’t care, because you have zero answers you can’t name one Jew transited through these camps to the Russian East and that’s why you don’t know. That’s why you don’t care, because you cannot answer that question at all for question for me. The important question is whether people were killed in gas chambers and I’ve answered that those who can answer the question all witnesses all the evidence points to that these people you can’t name. Existing anywhere else in the world were, in fact, gassed their cremated remains are photographed investigated by archaeologists in all available evidence points that the reason you can’t find them is, because they were killed at these sites. Well they might have been shot somewhere it’s not possible they might have died from typhus somewhere so those are alternative explanations and your insistence that you, because you see no evidence to think where she actually shipped that they were there for guests. That’s silly. That’s silly. That’s just plain stupid. I’m sorry to be so blunt, but you usually, because we. I know what people like me can’t account for the spurs these people to the east. Therefore they must be given. That’s who. There’s so many other things that can happen every day I might die tomorrow, you know, it doesn’t mean that I was guest I could have died from anything in a car accident that happens. I mean, frankly it has no logical, or rational wherever it was so large you are the one who is totally illogical with your insistence that the lack of evidence that people were transported to the east is true it’s not only that it’s not only us that’s what’s not only. Yet it will all be available. I will use all the I don’t know what you mean little evidence it’s the only available evidence is something you choose to ignore!

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You try to go after the fact the staff changes simply were ridiculous state would not have worked. Well if they had two things here. It’s not knowing like the ones who are so going east may have just shot may have died of typos, or may have starved to death, or may have whatever. However, his argument rests, you know, just OK we don’t know where they went. Therefore they may have died. It’s, you know, that’s right, or were killed. And the reason he thinks there are gas chambers. As the method is because. Witnesses and forensic evidence like. Photographs of holes and things like that. Well it’s not only there. When Fritz one first started. Revisionism he. There very well was a great exaggerated false, you know, a lot of it by the Soviet so his claim regarding all of these things that happen. So when Fritz started there were no identified gas chambers at these sites however recently archaeologists and your blanket and so we were have on Earth the buildings that all witnesses have identified were the homicidal gas chambers there is no other explanation for what these buildings were absolutely match. Well for it’s can I continue to match up exact point you did. Well I think these two lines that you wanted welling out so despicable and so stupid I have to interrupt you. I mean, you claim just no evidence of this, or that you’re wrong you’re lying. You don’t look you haven’t done the most basic kind of critical thinking, but were the buildings.

Well if it was a transit camp there were buildings for giving people showers, for example, and there was a guess. I’m sure for a fumigating closing. You want to give people back clothing that had only fumigate it. That’s what you had I’m sure in trouble. Well taken. Sobibor that’s all you had you had real cancer risk for gaining clothing and giving them those clean clothes back to the Jews, or whoever so that they could survive. That’s what those camps were for and there were plenty of camps like that throughout the German occupied East to keep German soldiers alive to keep what Mary workers alive to keep people alive generally and to help fight the typhus epidemic which was the real and I mean, the real killer inside German occupied Eastern Europe. I mean, it’s still Eric’s insistence that all the evidence says something else just who just plain cuckoo. Don’t you have a belief in the forests even if you mean you found a building somewhere and you’re saying this supports yessing claim to go. Shame on you. OK you’re safe. I know there are.

So Eric why haven’t these buildings were not just ours and so forth they actually are gas chambers. Well I mean, yeah I’m trying to ignore the cuckoo clock right here over here but. So the evidence is for instance not for blank blank archaeology show they talked about the tiles from there to witness who described the tiles seventy years earlier. Describe the building as a gas chamber. That some evidence right there the physical tiles that prove an earlier witnesses claim that this building was a gas chamber there’s absolutely no evidence of France’s transit camp of pretties seven hundred fifty thousand yet just play like yeah the evidently supports the tree. It’s a kind of theory also with me on later a kid you go there and there’s something.

To build the remains are found in the ruins.

Like I said for blanket they wind up with the earlier I believe is Abraham Parakey who described the tiles of this room. That was used as a gas chamber for instance just repeating these false claims that I’m somehow lying, but as we show you can’t let, you know, what is definitely lying. Some of it when you see evidence says this, or that then you are simply lying. All right. Fritz I’ll give you another chance communing Well son of my friends I did this transit. Can you name one Jew transited through these trying to get it, but that’s not the only evidence and that’s not the only issue.

Hello church was obviously not killed there. The other another survivor sides I said to the east in nineteen. I don’t buy that. I’m not, you know, I don’t think you are you.z

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You are, because the revisionist transit camp theory in accordance with the richard core claims. Oh not that I’m sorry and I continue to code word used for transit to the east was code for extermination be a poison. That’s your this is what that’s called Word. Where did you get that crazy idea that was some sort of a code word to Korea are sort of read in German. It’s very clear and logical and very specific it says nothing can be used to believe target, or some kind of code word Germans do it themselves Germans themselves testified that this is the code where, you know, the nation and the fact that we cannot find any of these chariots and east transit camp there is proof this small amount like I said. Did for fourth place bring nine hundred forty three as the Germans needed this forced labor does not prove that these mass transit to the Russian East. There’s no evidence of these mass care camps in the Russian He’s for those transmitted through these transit camps for it’s cannot name one transit east through these quote transit camps they were not transit camps there were extermination camps as all the evidence points to be OK and I was, because I felt like they didn’t go to the they got shot. Whatever you just say they were in their gas chambers and you’re saying well they were shipped East. They obviously weren’t, because there’s like records, or evidence are shipped East they must therefore they were gassed. But that really just proves they were killed. Is there other forensic evidence besides the man who said the the there is there any physical evidence not witness evidence of the gas chambers.

Well the cremation pits the mass cremation pits photographed and investigated by the Polish investigative commission as well as other archaeological investigations throughout the years including at the Belzec extermination camps core samples taken that show there are massive mass graves at these sites which could hold hundreds of thousands of bodies. He’s.

Who were not cremated which were not criminals right, or they were cremated. Well some of them were I’m sure there must have been plenty of dop bodies there that were not crewmate it. I don’t know if one of those bodies actually takes the trouble to do a serious forensic examination of the site then one might find lots of bodies of people who were still wearing their ordinary clothes time they were tossed into the ground if that’s at all the case. OK When you find bodies. People still wearing their clothes you often find little photographs, or letters that they were old news. Ferber clippings all kinds of important evidence to show when and when they were tossed into the grave. That’s what was done at the massacre site which is a model for a good forensic examination of any mass murder site then when the Germans investigated the cathing site. They invited. Medical personnel from. The whole world practically to come to cutting to see what was there and to allow professional forensic pathologist pathologists of every sort to look at the bodies and to see when these people were killed. How they might have been murdered by the Soviets as it turned out and have an open investigation. Nothing like that has really been done for this huge huge burrow site at all. OK there was some fencing around by the Poles after the war and that’s it. But a serious medical examination. Is nothing nothing of the sort has occurred OK they might have found something else. I remember seeing some photos Mulan camp showed. Well you see little bone fragments mixed in with ordinary soil. Well that’s not terribly convincing one way, or another, but the fact is people are brainwashed very easily when they see a pile of dead bodies and all this shocked, or horrified the strongest evidence for the Holocaust hoax is nothing from Auschwitz. It’s the pits at Bergen Belsen those pits are filled literally with naked bodies of people who are. It may see aged before they were thrown in those pits and people look at those pictures and they say oh it’s well obvious they must have been guessing people to death.

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Well the fact is no one was gassed to death at Bergen Belsen and everybody who seriously looks at the subject recognizes that, but the pictures of Bergen Belsen which are far more horrible than those pictures that Eric showed from I was sure it’s crap of five areas separate those pictures one could also are psychologically very powerful evidence for mask reality they are false evidence people are easily brainwashed at the sight of a dead body that’s that’s a horrible carry ality. And that’s the basis essential of what Eric is talking also he tries to the see a little bit, but he has no pictures of people killed in gas chambers at all anywhere. Those pictures of dead bodies at a crime of five when they were criminal. So maybe perfectly genuine. But there’s nothing in the picture says what the claim that these people had died in the gas chamber. All he has is the usual B.S. Bullshit generated by the Jewish holocaust industry to support these idiotic and vile racist claims against Germany and against the S.S. And against perfectly decent people who were the ones running our shoe it’s whether it’s gross. Joseph Mangal, or any number of the Germans who were there. Those were innocent. These people and I’ve discussed that I’m even wasting time here talking to someone like Eric they go yellow Rudolph cautioned me about a debate with Eric. And I’m sorry to say it, but I think you’re always right. Just, because no idea what he’s talking about he’s blah blah. Usual holocaust propaganda of Jewish contacts wherever they may be and that’s it. He. I guess I’m selfish. It’s your work. It was more we talk about it. So yeah let’s go get back to what this is essential. You have no evidence, or even no good evidence that even one person was ever killed in a gas chamber by the Nazis you don’t even have this theory as to how they guess chambers would have worked. You should be ashamed of yourself. I shall have to waste time talking to you, because you’re blind to not only chimes. To have a debate. This is what you both agreed. But the core of the debate that was agreed upon the specifics of what happened to people unable to work. Where they transited to the east, or where they shot, or where they get whatever that was the question. Which I feel I think, you know, we have. And you believe either they went somewhere, or they got killed, but they weren’t gassed and they are going in some of dire typhus some of them starved and some of more gas to and he’s based on these witnesses they claim that there were gas lines and I was getting into whether there is some some physical evidence of the chambers not, because cremating bodies you can cremate type his victims to if you don’t want life it’s right you want to burn the body obviously so, or is there evidence. But the killing themselves is what I’m saying. Yes there is so cool. All the evidence, but when one looks at the evidence one sees that those so-called gas chambers are laughable. They make no sense. Why would one want to even put a guest chamber underground. We’re going cool in order to generate this scion I guess and drive it out of Cyclops be granules you need something more man. I mean, if you are talking. It may not have started out as a gas chamber and but any Well, you know, that’s sort of the state had that story and it’s evolved obviously, but these so-called gas chambers were completed in early nineteen forty three and used shortly after the crime it’s come as two three four five were finished for it supposedly guessing people to death. It’s ridiculous, because there. There is all the evidence of how big a real get this and they were based on something like the guest chamber the real guessing was there used to fumigate clothing and those things were there there in the Auschwitz even to this very day, you know, the Germans knew how to make excellent guesstimates that could be used to fumigate clothing, or kill people. If you had taken any of the standard fuel efficient chambers lousing chambers one could also call them that were used to cure McKay closely you can stuff people in there, but that is not what’s alleged at all.

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It’s just nuts. It’s just crazy that the lousing chambers. If you could use a large railroad thought was in chambers as well. Are not implicated in the stories instead we get these little cuckoo claims that the war exist at the Kremas were used as guests Shamus it doesn’t make much sense that makes no sense at all really, because you would have had serious problems in generating the old distribution of cyanide gas throughout the gas chamber. They said the claim is that holes were it existing in the roofs of these chambers and the cycle of B. Was dropped down either directly on the prisoners, or into so-called cycle on introduction columns makes no sense you would have needed a fan to distribute the Scion I guess. Throughout the gas chamber that makes sense only Anybody who see any kind of an engineer would understand that instantly you have to disperse the cyanide throughout the chamber otherwise you would only kill off the few people who might be right next to the cycle I’d be granules it’s a very different ballgame psychologic the release of cyanide slowly. It’s that’s the way it was made. Less And this is what you see real glass chambers unless you force some kind of a blower, or fan. That was easy enough to understand anybody would half a brain trying to design a gas chamber would have understood that the Germans didn’t understand that perfectly well, you know, that from their literature which was even in English published by the American cinema company look at road discussion forum and you can read the actual literature and you can literally read the minds of the gas chamber of the scientists that one would have been so those a legit guest chamber really just crap as to what three zero four zero five disaster. Everything every time they would have tried to they would have had an ugly disaster. Lots of the frustration in broccoli.

A life. When as soon as the gas chamber to all was open.

OK I thank you for sharing your two cents on that, but again. I just ask the refrain from these kind of tactics series like anyone who isn’t an idiot is going to agree with on about the say is loading a question. Well, of course, it’s a loaded question. But that’s what are expanding along here. Well now I’m just as a moderator I think we’re trying to have an honest discussion, because Eric for about ten years was on the other side of the so you can’t use them is somebody who’s listening to you and whatever like that, but I, you know. She was sick of being a lazy and dishonest. All right let me talk. Well it would work whatever.

Interrupt for a while, because he was patient, you know, Yeah I mean, I was patiently sitting here. He was throwing ad hominem attack one after the other. I’ve been dealing with the evidence in the logic so for it’s talked about this is a sort of a propaganda cute coup for the Germans they found this massacre site of the Soviets of Polish Polish intellectual class I believe very officers.

So. Part of the reason all these part of the reason of their actions at these camps including Auschwitz Treblinka Belzec Sobibor, or end Babi Yar destroying evidence covering up evidence destroying evidence such as the crematories at Auschwitz. Covering up the evidence after their cremations has followed after their cremations and is trying to hide very, very situation for it’s talked about about catching the Germans went through very large lengths to cover up the evidence to create the situation we see today were those who deny that these mass killings ever happened. So well that your two areas just like killing the so-called gas chambers are still there. I cry about true, for example, I did I was rich money.

Yes and you deny that. They were used as gas chambers even though the Germans. Well they did I think I’ll be right but. Really slick what you’re talking about those things were not destroyed.

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They forced broke I don’t mind it if they don’t you might as well, because it’s the gas chambers so posable a well disposed get the still there. It’s still there. Our roof is parole an unusable. But still they are if the Germans aren’t strongly the evidence as you allege. They would have done a much better job would have could have should have they dynamited these buildings. If for leaving the camp. To cover up the evidence after removing knowledge there are no in your mind reading again doing a very badly. Pull I mean, because you don’t want the enemy to really able to use the building for something that fire is purpose for helping the Soviet war effort giving shelter, or refuge to Soviet forces.

That’s what happens. What time does have something going at their best. That’s not the only evidence that was destroyed, or covered up as a one on intra blanket balance I told you happened it’s all the evidence was the German No no I don’t know yet. Well yeah if I said all that’s an absolute There’s a lot of evidence that survives the proves that these mass killings happened for instance that Babi Yar. The Germans were they actually left records in Berlin captured by the Soviets of the exact amount sent to Babi Yar thirty three thousand seven hundred seventy one murdered a bad P.R. On the days of the largest mass killing at Babi Yar these were civilian women children then sent to the river of being Babi Yar outside of key.

Photographs all the eyewitnesses. Documents themselves lists the amount. Killed at these places. Now Fritz what happened at Babi Yar if you don’t want to believe the German arguments. I there was an uprising at Bobby at Key have as many of the partisans I’m sure were shot and tossed into the mass graves there are such as it is, but there are there is one. Einsatzgruppen report which disagrees completely with the story that you have just spouted so when you say evidence all the evidence says this, or that you’re wrong all the evidence does not say this and the next I said reports you had your chance the I’d say, you know, it’s there was some of the easiest links and actionable to forage and falsify by the Russians which was pretty routine on the part of the Russians. Now there was no serious examination. You’re talking forensic examination. There was no serious forensic examination ever at Babi Yar after the war by anything like neutral observers, or international observers. Surely that would have been the perfect place to have eight you which international investigation of this mass murder site and that would help exonerate the Soviets, but that was nothing like that all we get is the same kind of nonsense. That Eric’s been spouting here since the beginning. Are you not talk about the evidence OK. Yeah thanks for it says. Talks about why did it was an investigation and I’m talking about the Nazis covering up evidence. First of all he claims only partisans justifiably shot at Babi Yar. This isn’t true at all. Always miss isn’t family members and photographs are very again you’re saying you have all this if you don’t know the whole witness. Absolutely. And all you need to store it all witnesses. There’s no witnesses that say Babi Yar was a transit camp there’s photographs of women and children at this place being under arrest. There’s massive piles of clothing at this camp. Now we’re talking about covering up evidence the cremation. It’s cremation. The cremation that occurred at the site of these victims. These women and children not male partisans those who well it might when someone points it still can you get that tree ahead. Can you imagine thirty three thousand and seven artisans.

So government wants to I mean, for it’s image sent. Fritz wants to sort of justify, or minimize and deny all the evidence of who went there. No there were people there that were not partisans there were innocent civilians women children not engaging in partisan activity there is a German That’s right. Some more you would probably probably a handful.

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Oh, probably a handful come on, you know, you’re a child. You’re a higher interest illegal child. I’m sorry to be so blunt, but you deserve it. I’m not going to name call like you do. There are some names I can call you. I’ll be I’ll go. Well I don’t I don’t know that’s not really debate for it’s I’ll be more mature than you. OK yes you’re so sure old why I was so nervous and there is a German order for quote all kikes of the city of Kiev to appear at a certain location they were shown March.

Good recent sure.

OK So he was very, very Soviet partisan. Can you can you when you register said even register would you. Jules in Russia were very active with this show via partisan force is.

Well I’m saying no it was like, you know, if they can’t get an old Jewish one, or the push a baby carriage with a bomb in it into a group of German soldiers all the better. That was perfect. You think they didn’t use women. For partisan warfare. Oh my you’re a child if you think that Fritz we’re talking about thirty three thousand seven hundred seventy one people who aren’t a larger Germans themselves in their own hands not group in report. So you don’t know that at all these I’m such great reports. Were not even given a security classification above the most minimal security classification they were the easy things to get and falsify and that’s what the Soviets did. And these so. These reports were used by a very strange little Jewish judge after a war to prosecute and hang a German I had such group and officers and based on. These so-called Einsatzgruppen reports. It’s likely they engaged. No serious forensic examination of the Babi Yar So cite. Well you have all I said we have been covered up. We have photographs of war not taken observers, or photographers and all. Yes they were taken by Germans. So one of the photographs taken by Kerman don’t show anything like a mass execution at all the one you showed, for example, some very ordinary scene. There’s no mass murder at all. Of there at all. That’s one of the pictures you actually clued it in your lengthy boring treaties which with Jews starting your debate proposal here that shows no extermination of mass killing in all just look at it. First of all there are multiple photo. Graphs. You know, you know, graphs. Now you are talking about some other photos other than the one you actually showed stick to the one you showed for a lot about all of them. I’ll talk about all of them one of them is a group of children and young women.

Rounded up in under-estimate German guards are there with soldiers armed German soldiers are there with weapons they’re being directed to the execution side as all witnesses clown. Yeah yeah they’re, you know, as the I would this is clean. But tell us about the reason for people to strip. That’s one of the things you do in a security check if you have some good reason to believe some people are carry weapons you search them is that amazing. It goes on all over the world especially in those places where America is defending democracy when you have a suspect who was suspected of being a terrorist you strip them search for weapons, or one sort, or another maze amazing that actually happens. There are no witnesses you describe being sent to Bobbie are being submitted to a security check and go on further on. I think the masses of clothes walked over by Germans. At the bottom of the ravine show that they were not giving new clothes and sent on to somebody else, you know, can you show that little. Kid was I if I accept the official story.

You know you look I’m not looking at all the evidence all the all you have to look at you’re making up alternate conspiracy theory. Have you as I have why would they leave I have clothes. I have possibly take I have weapons in their little guys bombs guns pistols all kinds of stuff they’re trying to check out these people for they ‘re possible involvement in partisan warfare. Superficially logical thing to do. They think for all that a piece of paper trying them to some. Partisan organization that’s very important!

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And the reason to strip somebody for security. After doing so and not finite for finding, or whatever. After getting rid of any weapons and that’s why I leave all the clothes piled up just well in the bottom saying I don’t know they might have wanted to clean those clothes, or give them some other clothes, or keep them they could, because it would be easier to keep them on the control I don’t know, but the idea that there was a systematic extermination program in Babi Yar, or anywhere else is just not supported certainly if the Germans had people that they suspected of being involved reporters and like to release. They may very well have shot them that happened. No doubt about it. I can’t blame them, but it’s it’s one of those things that happens in modern warfare. Especially when the group of people like the Jew lose has been a rouse to hate every German on the planet and make atrocity claims of one sort, or another, or engage in terrorism of one sort, or another. What do you expect that Germans to do. So when Fritz is confronted with something and this proves his theory pretty easy actually. But there is a he said he says we have Bobby, or no one was killed in gas chambers Do you concede that at least there the reports are about shooting not guaranteed to be OK I’m about guessing that also nobody was guessed at Babi Yar But, you know, you’re making a bizarre straw man and not a serious historian believes they are talking mass shootings. So we don’t know it all that a serious historian either fact you’re a joke. So we don’t pretend it’s just, or say that that’s an expression right out of Mark Webber and it’s serious a story a whole. My God we don’t want to deal with certain historians that are not serious. If you’re a serious historian not. So, you know, you’re inventing a straw man for no reason it’s sort of, you know, I think that if you leave Lynch and he insists back into a corner you want to go into your safe comfort zone just talked about I said I first of all I don’t even accept that diesel engines were used. I agree with the closest eyewitnesses that claim petrol engines were used. But like I said we’re sticking to Babi Yar now when confronted with evidence that totally contradicts your alternate conspiracy theory. I want to talk with your cult for it’s own to expand into a Babi Yar OK you’ve switched on talk about many things I talk about in my article which is what you do. Agreed to debate. So any time backed into a corner for it’s usually says I don’t know, because he has no I don’t think there is a time not that into a quarter of our shame on you yet you said you guys are you say I often think what basically we’re talking about in the article and you’re saying both of you agree they weren’t there. That’s not the contention here this is just shooting terminating people that’s all, or to show it’s efforts and if we’re to seriously proposing gassing and probably our choice is not research whatsoever and is just as I said, in the intro just calling B.S. On things he doesn’t know about so to claim that, you know, there are Jewish families who still visit the site Babi Yar today their family members were not parties and some of them were little girls some of them are women there it’s not justified to kill these under accepted rules of warfare and well you don’t know these, or you don’t know that I sure want to just like I don’t you just say it for it. So if you want to justify killing women and children just say it, but to deny that these things happened when all the evidence points to it you’re lying.

You’re lying again you don’t know all the evidence you think, you know, there was never any serious forensic examination of Bobby our site. That’s that’s would be the kind of evidence that would mean something. But you have our John. Neither of us anyone else. So when you say all the evidence. You’ll are lying. Certainly on the children unique first of all it’s only a lawyer. Yeah well you certainly are not personally is she is lying when she is when he says all the evidence, you know, snow all the evidence and all the most serious kind of audience just the evidence for us. He’s just going to be are never occurred. First of all the Germans covered up. Bobby are the photograph of an earlier version of an earlier cover up nine hundred forty one of masses of Soviet prisoners of war with shovels trying to cover up the evidence to create the condition we see today of people denying these murders their Jewish families who as I said, I was I’m trying to say please don’t interrupt me for at least two minutes.

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There are Jewish families who lost their loved ones that were not involved a partisan activities little girls and women taken from them ripped from them never seen again. They were murdered at this site it was not a transit camp where they were given new clothing and sent anywhere else. Part of the reason there was no first of all there has been investigations about your second of all.

The German cover up has as skewed a lot of the evidence.

In about the nine hundred sixty S. At Babi Yar there was a chemical spill. That flooded the ravine. There will never be total examination of the evidence, because the entire site has been contaminated at this point. But all the existing evidence points to mass shooting and cremation at Babi Yar in. German cover up involving silly prisoners of war. Literally with shovels covering up the evidence to try to hide these crimes to create the condition we see today of those who deny it. I’m not lying at all that all the existing evidence points to this happening. Oh yes you are however I’ll keep reminding of you that reminding you that you are lying about all the evidence you don’t know what all you have done says even existing holders of dirt and shovels by Russian prisoners. You can still own to get open it up and do a serious fest occasion afterward Katina was also covered up by K.G.B. Agents and soldiers, but the Germans dug up the ground and exposed the bodies and what remained and then you had a serious investigation the fact that so many cultures sing something over the shovel doesn’t make any later investigation impossible at all. So all the evidence you’re lying when you say that. Shame on you. Difference being all it’s all. I didn’t start this, you know, that’s a big yes it’s like really. He said that’s what he said he said all the evidence not all the potential evidence. The only evidence is something I said all the existing evidence says Ryan said Possibly I started there the possibility that thing and you correct, but I haven’t. Well the I just know it’s also very stupid to say the least. So all the existing evidence so, you know, there is your way. Why don’t we wait for you and it’s a minor detail. You said you haven’t. I’m not a denying that these people were murdered there. They never existed. They never came back to exist and came back to their families. I don’t think you don’t know just like you. Yes I do I’m aware of no. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah I don’t know anything of the sort you talk oh yeah. Three hundred. People know it’s hard thirty thirty thousand thirty three thousand seven hundred what I was going to get you still that’s a lot of people and they’re wealthy, but it’s OK let’s not go there is a school report which gives a much smaller number and more, in fact, Mark were found this years ago and you can, or that your brain is the bigger number. Yes Kim why.

OK. Anyway that’s not the number just you just going round in circles I have to agree with Mark there are more rewards me about trying to have a debate with Eric and I actually criticized Jamar for his not agreeing to the Bay I wrote I’m kind of a flowery essay about the importance of debate which I think is enormously important, but with dealing here with a person who really doesn’t know what he’s talking, but I hate to be so like you if you are capable debate with anybody who disagrees, you know, it’s hard to believe that just aren’t being is, you know, you said before that if a started it was going to be hard for you to be civil and everything, because this is such an emotional topic which is fine. It should be especially if you’re if you’re German yourself and, you know, there’s so much, you know, place in the German people and we all know about the holocaust industry and exploited in all the terrible things that come from it. It wouldn’t be possible to be anybody on this topic. Who didn’t agree with you. Well maybe it’s hard to I’m sure. I’m sure, because I, you know, the emotional strings that are pulling people and gear and Eric is very much. The price that you had Hamann in a terrible time of the tax some times are very appropriate. Thanks to you John. It’s what you heard sometimes if you want to talk to the arms and I’m today evidence we went in circles if you times I might have to to close this debate, because of the time sink, but we can pick it up later. If you want to.

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But, you know, I understand. Because I do this too. I will destroy someone’s argument and then call me a bitch. Afterward just as extra, but there wasn’t just like a point to be made and sometimes to be a little back and forth and then this topic is so big that it would jump to another area another quite a let’s talk and frankly let’s talk about diesel Let’s talk about this and, you know, this may be my fault too. But this is hard hard to moderate also but, you know, the main questions in the article what we’re trying to address and so it’s kind of splitting hairs like where they shot, or were they. Yesterday. He’s like we all agree a lot of people died and were killed. We’re just talking maybe Fritz can get maybe Fritz can give his clothing is closing statement closing argument I can give mine and you can have yours. So you are sure it will that be OK Just if you want to argue for me in the mornings just saying. I gotta go there right. It’s closing statement first and hopefully will have enough time for me to make a closing state why afterwards. Both make you think. OK Eric would you like to go. Yeah I want to be on Earth uninterrupted it’s in four, or five minutes. I just want to get into some of the things he says and repeat what I said in the morning I might enter direction, because I believe I succeeded in what I said in my introduction I do in this debate. So let’s talk about Gary more Rudolph here more Rudolph desperately try to have friends avoid this debate. Supposedly because. I was going to act in a way we’ve seen for it’s act in this debate constant ad hominem attacks names legal you can count to over one hundred of these insults Francis thrown around. Despite me sticking to the evidence and the logic, but also garam are desperately garam are up committee for open debate on the Holocaust desperately wanted for it’s to avoid this debate, because I’ve shown through the evidence and logic including in my article that these conspiracy theory that for blanket Belzec Sobibor and including now Babi Yar apparently as well as it’s in some circumstances of those unable to work where transit camps are completely unfounded for it’s cannot name these people transited not even one transit through troubling to Belzec and Sobibor to the Russian East. He cannot name one person sent sent to Babi Yar that was supposedly given new clothing and sent on elsewhere. All the existing evidence documents photographs eyewitness testimony archaeological investigations physical evidence and more demonstrates the mass gassings and shooting of Jews at the sites we focused on today. There is zero eyewitnesses who worked at the extermination camps in question who deny these mass gassings that had personal close access to what happened there is zero eyewitnesses who claim thousands of Jews were not mass murdered by bullets at Babi Yar.

There is zero eyewitnesses claim to Blanka Belzec and still the border secure and the Russian East in accordance with the revisionist, or denier transit camp theory. There are only those who weren’t there calling as Fritz says bullshit on one aspect after the other. I said this introduction and he actually did this in an interview twice.

And he’s very predictable or produced are, you know. France is also participating in what amounts to a thought experiment how it should have been done, or could have been done, or how to have built a more efficient gas exchange.

Many revisionists are entirely biased for itself as spoken of the anti German bias and treatment his family has received in America especially during and after World War Two. I sympathize and I also want to do everything I can. It’s defuses anti German bias and overblown guilt complex attached to people. Nothing to do with S.S. Mass murders. Unfortunately do it to his German heritage and experience a bit anti German bias. Mr Byrd is too biased to look at the evidence impartially and be a fair level headed arbiter of the facts. There are several major revisionists of German heritage including grammar Rudolph were entirely biased in unable to accept the reality of what happened. Another major revisionist in close collaborative gammer Rudolph. German descent. FRIEDRICH Toben deniers a plane hit the Pentagon on September eleventh.

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I’ve repeatedly shown the man photographs of the debris on the lawn of the Pentagon with clear lettering it belongs to the same plane which hit the building there even DNA tests of the corpses of every victim on the flight. Except for a baby. But for some all the evidence in the world is not enough. Everyone is lying their evidence is fake forgeries cetera et cetera. There is a peculiar wish to deny all available evidence for entirely Baseless conspiracy theory it is obvious to me now that if there were a massive gas chamber hoax. The revisionists with these and other totally illogical beliefs would not be the ones to expose it. When confronted with the evidence revisionists often instead do not answer the claims, or the evidence presented that is vert attention to an area. They are more familiar with, or feel is a better point they can argue such as A D. Good diesel gassing straw man. All known evidence. Eyewitnesses documents photographs an archaeological investigations prove the S.S. Murder Jews be amassed gassings in mass shootings principal called the S.S. Heroes. He called on the show.

A picnic and a gay old time. These places were not a gale time shoot was not a gay old time. It was a place to mass murder suffering and death. I highly doubt those who had their family members ripped from them at Auschwitz Treblinka Belzec Sobibor and Babi Yar.

Would agree with Fritz Berg’s that search and that these were heroes to be clear. There are have been very exaggerated eyewitness testimonies inflated Soviet death tolls and others. Some of these exaggerations are perfectly understandable if you realize the enormity of these mass murders which did happen through the show just it’s just witnessed. When asked the central questions for it’s response. I don’t know. If you would throw a totally Baseless conspiracy theory about.

Suits, or blanket on claiming it was a transit camp he said I don’t know don’t care. Multiple times for it said he is quote not an expert when confronted with the logic of conducting autopsies on the remains of cremated own fragments and ashes. For it’s claim that he watches TV shows such as yes saw in crime investigation.

Frankly this is all that the argument of him and those like him.

Pass through.

Friends of television programs and others who want to claim that. These mass murderers would have could have should have done something I’m our mission where. What is required of me I can’t point out. Herders don’t do them always do logic most logical efficient methods of mass murder. What’s this I just what happens through. I don’t know what’s described is happening which we don’t.

Anyone yet make up more efficient ways to get people, but all the existing evidence points to what happened and the fact that these quote revisionists are, you know, I just can’t name one person. Oh transit through these fermentation sites and for blowing stuff. Well to consult reports obvious hours per. What they claim is a Baseless conspiracy theory. For it’s also said that for it’s also came up with the illogical claim that Elie Weisel was totally worthless to be useful, or slaver yet claim that those selected instead would gated as on able to be used for forced labor such as toddlers an elderly were used for forced labor not gas. I prove my point today in just thanks for coming on. I don’t really appreciate all the insults, but I understand he has no evidence to justify his point. So. I’m sorry he.

Story he couldn’t, you know, be more mature about it I guess I thank Fritz for appearing to debate. My website is questioning the Holocaust dot com. I just real quickly I want to just say, you know, unfortunately. I found myself in between two fanatical groups those powerful blind believers who in media journalism and academia sweep under the rug some of these vERY REAL of errors in the Holocaust related falshood and outright inventions such as Weisel and I resist by and those like Fritz who deny access massacres as a whole and it gassing these in the mass shooting such that probably are gray hair in these black and White side as. Determine the truth. Lars

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Right thanks Rob. I don’t think the rich really get your thing. I mean, you know, let me see if I can. Oh I got to have a heart. Well, there’s so much to say. And it’s hard to know where to begin. But one of the things. Eric has claimed again and again and again it is all the evidence says this, or that. Well that’s just wrong all the evidence is not what Eric is focused on he’s focused on a very small amount of evidence the evidence which goes against what he’s claiming. Is fairly simple autopsies. OK where are the autopsies to show that any body found here, or there in Auschwitz, or anywhere was killed in a gas chamber says none of that Dr Charles People are saying Dr Hirmand Volcker were doctors assigned by the United States war crimes branch doc how to do autopsies on people that. The Army thought. Would more than likely have been guessed at Don how and other camps nearby a thousand, or top series were performed by Dr Charles P. Larson DR HIRMAND Bulker actually went to Harvard more where people were birdied who were supposedly killed in gas chambers also and he found both of these doctors found nothing. They found no evidence that even one person was killed with poison gas of any sort. Dr Charles Larson believed nonetheless that there were. Were guessings at the house, but he at least had the decency to admit that he could never find any evidence of it now. Other autopsies were performed. I’m sure very early on by the British when they got to Bergen Belsen They realized very quickly that nobody had been gassed. There were not so nice to have evidence of that, but they just couldn’t make it up. They couldn’t get some Dr Tiller actually lawyer for them on their oath and say oh yeah I found this body here, or there of a person who showed a high C O concentration a liver, or whatever he couldn’t get that. So when Eric talks about all the evidence all the evidence that’s just not true. I will call him a liar at this point, but it’s just plain wrong all the evidence does not show what Eric is claiming at all. And that’s so essential. Now when else can I say. So other evidence. Such as the kind of thought experiment that I’m supposedly engaged in when I speculate about how the gas chambers might have worked, or not have worked well thought experiments are perfectly reasonable things to engage in this kind of a an issue. Eric doesn’t like that, because it’s a real thought experiment I think I’ve done that with my work on diesel gas chamber claims and carbon dioxide. If you do real thought experiment experiments you come up with conclusions that show that these guessing claims are absolutely ridiculous. There is no serious evidence that even one person whether that ever gets to death anywhere, in fact, you don’t even have a theory as to how these guesstimates would have worked just these vague vague claims about a diesel engine running for half an hour, or something like that doesn’t have any real credibility. How did you get to yes Lynch and to produce carbon monoxide. It does bother explaining that he knows perfectly well that on that sort of a subject which is in my comfort area. He loses and all of these guys lose when they are forced for one reason, or another to actually look at the serious issues about illegitimate illegitimate ask guessings. My contention has always been Nazi past guessing has never happened. And I’m still alive. God hasn’t struck we did yet. OK now what is Holocaust problem get it. This is racist filth. That’s all it is it is racist filth just like the Jews have been passing around about everybody. If you want to see what mass murder is really all about go to the Old Testament. If you are any kind of a religious Christian, or whatever read the Old Testament read about the mass extermination of Jericho, for example, where the Hebrews killed not only all the citizens of Jericho. But the cats and dogs and animals every living thing which breathes!

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With the kind of racist hatred that the Jews were overwhelmed by and which drove them showed itself already long before the war. I have a booklet here somewhere. Written by Johannes Steele that. Scott Smith just found and gave me I don’t know where it is right now, but it shows the most vile kinds of hate and atrocity propaganda and I had said well this is the stock in trade of the Jewish Zionist establishment going back long before World War Two and it’s filth just like it was at that time and that’s what every contest been spouting here. This is racist filth against the German people against the S S against the Nazis ago. It’s perfectly decent wonderful people like Dr Joseph Mengele he was as fine a doctor as anyone could ever hope to have in anywhere. He was a decent man who actually came down with typhus and self while he was at Auschwitz and yet. He survived and help people wherever he could. I’m sure to stay alive. That’s what it was all about that was nobody died in gas chambers the Germans used a real guess Shamus to keep people alive and used advanced technology that they had actually developed before World War Two and none of that advanced technology is indicated anywhere in the so called Zion cycle and be a guest chambers at Auschwitz. Anyway I think I’ve said about enough here. But I’ll say one thing on behalf of Galileo they did not desperately want me to not debate. Jerram award me about trying to have a debate with Eric and I’m sorry to say that his warning was entirely appropriate, but they did try to stop me from the debate and the people that kowtow did not try to stop the debate either they didn’t lend themselves to making it any easier, but Eric’s contention that they desperately wanted to stop me from the bait is just not true. Anyway. I hope we can have some more debates in the future, but at this point it’s clear that. Eric just doesn’t know what he’s talking about he hasn’t really grown up. I have no doubt that his reasons for having this discussion has everything to do with some sort of mental breakdown I’m not a psychiatrist, but that is what’s going on here. Maybe Eric is trying to get himself a job with the I it’s you are aware that other great backslider Mark Webber has apparently gained game some. Maybe he could give Eric a job. I don’t know I don’t care. They’re both despicable creatures.

The the pamphlet that I just got from Scott Smith today is typical of the right this is the Tri-City probably get the Jews were cranking out before the war even started this one and that was actually from nineteen forty three. It’ll be posted eventually on the road discussion forum for everyone to look at it in it’s, you know, all of it’s filth. It’s a titled Nazi atrocities the punishment by Joe how to steal it. It’s by Joe a while and it has lots of nice pictures which people like Eric will love are sure the chicks getting murdered at little cheeky in places like that. Well, the war was a terrible terrible war. The real mass murders where the Jews themselves they were pushing for the kind of bombing that America engaged in Germany and on the territory of.

German occupied Europe. They’re the ones who should be ashamed of themselves. I’m afraid we may actually lose our argument in general we may not succeed in waking up the world as to what really happened in the war, but we may have a disaster far bigger than World War Two any day now. I hope that doesn’t happen, but if we think critically about these horrible horrible atrocity. Fabrications. We might come to our senses and avoid a bigger disaster. Anyway I’m thankful Eric agreed to debate me and I thank you Ryan Dawson for doing a very heroic job and I think your advice is just very well, you know. But I let all the blacks and I had Eric on the power.

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Asked. I have them on now. I had David Cole on the past. Adam on rain change his mind, you know, I’m all for free speech and I try to keep it calm and cool if I can and I know these topics are so charge and ought to be talking about war and death and prejudice and always are smarter. We have mass murder. You can say the same thing that the other side of the world to what was happening in Asia so, I really think you guys are coming on and will try to I prefer to have a civil. I don’t mind if you add how many in this scenario it’s whatever, but people will be able to pick the meat out of these arguments and we can have debates in the future. I’m tired I’m kind of at this and throw it up on the web and I will say this if you links and again there’s

Nazi gassings dot com and questioning the holocaust come, or are you going to sites and I think we need more dialogue and debate on this. He says he does it gets this is what’s necessary to move forward on this these kind of questions have to be addressed if there was a transit camp where did they go was evidence for. If there were gas scenes where is the physical evidence for that so I hope to fish. These out in the future and I appreciate your time and impatience in doing these kind of things for both of you.

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Leon Degrelle — My Revolutionary Life: Muzzling the Vanquished

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[Here is Leon Degrelle’s introduction to his “Revolutionary Life” where he describes the sacrifices made by those like him who joined the Waffen SS to fight the evil of jewish communism in WW II. Although those sacrifices were not in vain, as they prevented the whole of Europe from being dominated by communism directly, his kind have remained pariahs and their story muzzled by the cause and victors of that war; organized jewry — KATANA.]

Leon Degrelle’s

My Revolutionary Life

Muzzling the Vanquished

An Introduction to

“My Revolutionary Life”

John Nugent

THE BARNES REVIEW is delighted and proud to announce the return to our pages of Gen. Leon Degrelle of Belgium after a one-year hiatus that seemed 12 months too long for many of our readers. After 10 years of le général’s piercing historical and military insights about prewar Europe and World War II, we have discovered in these pages another side of Degrelle, equally fascinating but very personal: the human who, like all great leaders, hid his suffering while the almost “superhuman” leader, warrior and, later, unbowed leader in exile was out inspiring others. We meet a leather-tough visionary who experienced tragedies and triumphs like all mortals. But his were the great events of history, and he was the unique Leon Degrelle.

This author of now 55 articles in THE BARNES REVIEW was in fact the last surviving World War II leader. Unlike ivory-tower historians who toe the establishment’s official line, Degrelle writes and speaks from personal encounters, discussions and hard questioning. He grilled Winston Churchill while dining with him at the House of Parliament restaurant. (Churchill confessed that were he a German he himself would be for Hitler.) Degrelle discussed war strategy and the escape of the English at Dunkirk with Hitler, who admired the forthright and dynamic Degrelle greatly. As one military commander to another, he met with Spain’s nationalist leader Francisco Franco, who later rescued him from violent postwar leftists. And he debated a Benito Mussolini whose strengths and weaknesses young Degrelle quickly penetrated.

A brilliant student of law, political science, religion, archeology, art and philosophy, at 26 Degrelle used his mind and heart to found the Rexist Party to end the ruthless rule of Belgium’s plutocrats and create a “national community” inspired by national and Christian values. By age 29 he was the biggest vote getter in the Belgian Parliament, getting 36 Rexist deputies elected with his spellbinding writing, oratory and superhuman energy.

My Revolutionary Life will explain how this private man from a small French-speaking village could become the fiery political leader who turned Belgium upside down. It makes clear how a brilliant intellectual could thereafter switch from speeches to action when the war came, founding his own regiment of elite Waffen-SS infantry on the dreaded Eastern Front. There, the one-time wordsmith rose quickly from private to a supremely honored and decorated colonel through hand-to-hand combat and military leadership on the alternately fiery or freezing Russian Front. Degrelle the warrior was also Degrelle the mourner: of the 800 men in his regiment fighting the Red steamroller, only he and two comrades survived.

Image: A joyful Degrelle on leave from the Russian campaign. He is shown with the four youngest of his eight children and his devoted wife Jeanne. After the war, Degrelle’s children were forcibly taken from him and his wife and spread across Germany. He later managed to find them all, and Degrelle reunited the family in Spain under the protection of Francisco Franco.

We present here Leon Degrelle (1906-1994) dealing with successes, enduring persecutions and slander, and finding the humor and inner fire to continue slaying his hypocritical foes with the word and the pen while inspiring the next generations of militants for the West.

The following is Chapter One of Leon Degrelle’s My Revolutionary Life. . . .

Cover: Leon Degrelle, always the visionary, gazes over the Bay of Malaga, Spain, always the visionary. This photo was taken in the 1990s when Degrelle was in his 80s and writing My Revolutionary Life.

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My Revolutionary Life

CHAPTER ONE

For those of us who escaped in 1945 from the Eastern Front’s final hell, torn up by wounds, overcome by sorrows, devoured by pain, what rights do we still have? We are dead men. Dead men with legs, arms, and breath—but dead.

To pronounce a word of truth in public or write a dozen lines without lies after having fought pistol in hand against the Soviet machine—above all, to have been a leader called “fascist”—this is immediately seen by the “democrats” as a “provocation.”

For a criminal with normal rights, it is always possible to explain away and justify oneself. Has he killed his father? His mother? Bankers? Neighbors? Has he since then gone back to a life of crime? Then newspapers of the world press will open their columns to his “memoirs”; they will publish the tale of his crimes under bombastic headlines, decorated with a thousand gaudy and gory details. It matters not whether the subject is an infamous cut-throat or one of his ten eager imitators.

A clinical description in America of the most vulgar murderer went through multiple print runs and made millions of dollars—a bestseller for its obsessively nitpicking analyst, Truman Capote. [1]

Other killers at large such as the late “Bonnie and Clyde” are apotheosized in films and even dictate new fashions in upper-crust malls.

As for those condemned for political reasons, now that depends. It is the color of their political banner that determines their justification or execration.

A campesino, a country bumpkin who became the leader of a band in the extreme-leftist Frente Popular in 1930s Spain, one whose scruples never prevented him from machine-gunning patriotic Nacionalistas, has been able—in the very same Spain where he murdered his compatriots—to explain freely and at length, in hundreds of thousands of copies of the highest circulation newspaper in Madrid, all his bloody adventures as a Spaniard of the left.

But we must remember — he was of the left. He had the right to kill and then to brag about his killing.

In fact, on the left you have all the rights.

Whatever have been the crimes — yes, the mass exterminations — in which every Marxist regime indulges, no one will even look askance at the individual Marxist killer. The conservative right will not because it inanely prides itself on being “open to dialogue” with sworn enemies. The left will not because it always stands by all its cherished henchmen.

A revolutionary agitator, communist guerrilla and Castro confidant the likes of Regis Debray [2] can count on sympathizing audiences everywhere. One hundred bourgeois newspapers will excitedly rush out with his newest ideas. The Pope and Gen. De Gaulle rush to protect him, and plead that he not be executed in the country he tried overthrowing, one under his tiara, the other under a general’s hat.

How can one avoid the contrast with fate of Robert Brasillach, the greatest writer France produced during the war years? Passionate about his country, to which he had dedicated his life and his work, “la Libération” of ’44 meant the poet was pitilessly eliminated (on February 6, 1945). No officer’s hat was seen in his defense, but a braided hat surely nodded the signal to the firing squad that gunned this writer down.

[Add. image —French writer and journalist Robert Brasillach, on the left, posing next to Jacques Doriot, in the middle, on the Eastern front about 1943. Robert Brasillach was the chief editor of the newspaper Je Suis Partout, a pro-German publication.]

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Waffen-SS General Leon Degrelle: A Life in the Crucible

Leon Degrelle was among the most indomitable leaders of the 20th century. Some have called him “fearless.” But Adolf Hitler, attending a speech by Josef Goebbels, once corrected the notion that a true fighter can be “fearless.” Goebbels, carried away by his own oratory, had rhapsodized that “the German soldier is fearless.”

Hitler scoffed:

“My dear Goebbels, one can see from this that you have never been at the front. No one who has seen its carnage is fearless. All one can do is overcome the fear.”

This call to overcome fear was heeded a lifetime long by a Belgian village boy who faced poverty, political ostracism, the knocking-out of ten of his teeth and the bayoneting of 21 supporters by order of Jewish Interior Minister of France Georges Mandel, four years on the Eastern Front, a plane crash in Spain, the seizure of his seven girls and little son by the post-war Belgian government, pursuit by Israeli hit squads and,finally, a bounty on his aged head by Simon Wiesenthal.

[Add. image — Escaping from the Allies, Degrelle made an emergency landing of his Heinkel 111 on the Beach of La Concha in San Sebastian, Spain in May, 1945.]

Nothing could have been worse for the devout Christian and family man Degrelle than the kidnapping by the post-war Belgian government of his offspring, who were scattered to eight different foster homes, given entirely new names and prevented from seeing each other or their parents. Finally, through fiercely devoted friends, Degrelle was able to restore all eight to his hearth. Overcoming every fear possible, Degrelle entered Valhalla in 1994 as a legend in the history of the West.

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The rank anarchist Daniel Cohn-Bendit [3] — born in Germany but who agitates equally in France—is barely sought by the French police. Ipso facto the police never find him, even when he is getting ready to blow the whole country sky-high.

[Add. image — Daniel Marc Cohn-Bendit (born 4 April 1945) is a Jewish-French-German politician. He was a student leader during the unrest of May 1968 in France and was also known during that time as Dany le Rouge (French for “Danny the Red“, because of both his politics and the colour of his hair).]

As much as he wanted and the way he wanted it, he was able to publish his rantings—as incendiary as they were mediocre — via capitalist publishing firms. He must have snickered as he pocketed the fat royalty checks handed him by those he would destroy.

The Soviets established their dictatorship on the bones of 16.5 million murdered. But mentioning this martyrdom en masse in polite society is just not done. . .

Nikita Khrushchev, commissar of the lethal Ukrainian famine, a vulgar hog-market mountebank, he of the big chickpea-mole on a peasant nose, a sweaty man, dressed like a ragbag, why shouldn’t he have clumped triumphantly around the United States, his granny on his arm, escorted by U.S. Cabinet officials and fawning billionaires, and by French “can-can” dancers and the flower of the Kennedy clan? Nikita even permitted himself to bang on the table with his sweaty shoe during a General Assembly of the United Nations without the bouncers being called.

[Add. image — Nikita Khrushchev’s shoe-banging incident occurred during the 902nd Plenary Meeting of the United Nations General Assembly held in New York in 1960. During the session on 12 October, Khrushchev pounded his shoe on his delegate-desk in protest at a speech by Philippine delegate Lorenzo Sumulong.

In 2003, American scholar William Taubman reported that he had interviewed some eyewitnesses who said that Khrushchev had brandished his shoe but not banged it. He also reported that no photographic or video records of the shoe-banging had been found. However, in his biography of Khrushchev, he wrote that he accepted that the shoe-banging had occurred. There is at least one fake photograph, where a shoe was added into an existing photograph (shown above).

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe-banging_incident]

In the same vein, Bolshevik vice premier Alexei Kosygin bowed his august, badly cooked potato-head to receive laurel wreaths from the French. The French were still fainting like ladies over the stories of Auschwitz—but entirely amnesiac about some thousands of Polish officers at Katyn. These officers had merely served in 1940 in the army of a French ally; they were merely the elite of Polish society—and the USSR shot them down like dogs.

Image: Antonio de Velazquez’s famous painting entitled The Surrender of Breda. Degrelle had most certainly seen this painting at the Prado Museum in Madrid, and it made a lasting impression. It depicts the moment in 1625 when Spanish General Ambrosio de Spinola accepted the surrender of the Dutch commander of Breda, Justin von Nassau. Although an intercepted message from the Dutch had divulged to the Spanish that the defenders of Breda were running out of food and ammunition, the munificent de Spinola still offered compassionate surrender terms and spared the city from sacking and burning, which was the norm. The chivalrous behavior demonstrated by the Spanish at Breda was in stark contrast to the treatment the vanquished received after World War II and which Degrelle grieves over in My Revolutionary Life.

Stalin himself, the most monstrous killer of the 20th century, an implacable tyrant, massacring dementedly for decades his people, his colleagues, his officers, and his family members, he had to be the one to receive a glistening sword of gold from the most conservative of monarchs, the king of England. His Majesty the King had no concept of how macabre was his gift choice for such a criminal.

[Add. image — Marshall Joseph Stalin being presented with the “Sword of Stalingrad“. General Voroshilov, Anthony Eden, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, General Sir Hastings Ismay, Sir Alexander Kadogen and Sir Archibald Clark Kerr stand around the table. Churchill shakes hands with Marshall Joseph Stalin and presents the sword. Location: Tehran, Iran. Date: December 1943. It is now displayed in the Russian Embassy in Tehran.]

[Add. image — The Sword of Stalingrad. The blade is etched on one side with, “To the steel hearted citizen of Stalingrad — the gift of King George VI — in token of homage of the British people”. The reverse side of the blade bears the same text in Russian.]

But if we, the surviving fascists of World War II, have the extreme impertinence to open our mouths for just one instant, then in the very next instant thousands of “true democrats” begin frantically shrieking and baying—petrifying our own friends, who fervently implore us to “watch what you say!”

Watch what we say about what?

Is the Soviet cause now so venerable?

For 44 years [as of 1989, when this was written — Ed.] the world has been a spectator afforded numerous chances to realize the depths of Bolshevik evil. The world saw the tragedies of East Germany in 1953 and of Hungary in 1956, both crushed under Soviet tanks to expiate the crime of a reawakening taste for liberty.

[Add. image — Hungarain uprising, 1956 is put down when Soviet tanks move in.]

In 1968 the “world community” witnessed how Czechoslovakia was ground underfoot and muzzled like an animal by hundreds of thousands of communist invaders. That nation had fallen victim to an appalling naiveté: dreaming it could wriggle unnoticed out of the galley-slave’s neck irons that Moscow had forced over its head.

This world could not plead ignorance to the sighs of the many peoples oppressed by the USSR from the Gulf of Finland to the shores of the Black Sea. These agonies demonstrate clearly what horror not one but both halves of Europe would have suffered had Stalin been able to hurl his tanks past Berlin and all the way to the docks of Brittany and the Rock of Gibraltar.

[Add. image — German infantry, caught in the ruins of Stalingrad, Sept 1942.]

From the hell that was Stalingrad in November 1942 to the hell that was Berlin in April 1945, 900 days of horror and dread would pass. It was an ever more desperate struggle with an ever more horrible suffering, and its cost was the young lives of thousands who had resolved, of their own free will, that someone must go to the front.

[Add. image — May 9, 1945. Russian commanders address their troops at the Brandenburg Gate, Berlin.]

Someone must volunteer to be crushed, ground literally into the mud by Red tanks, sacrificing all to contain or to slow the Red army despite the terrifying odds, to halt a flood that surged from the Volga River and was racing toward Western Europe.

In 1940 just a week elapsed between the time the German Wehrmacht erupted over the French frontier near Sedan and the time it reached victoriously the English Channel.

What would have happened if the European fighters on the German Eastern Front—among whom were 400,000 non-German volunteers from 28 countries—had retreated as frantically as the Belgians and French? And if they had not offered, inch by inch, through three long years of brutal combat, a veritably superhuman resistance to the tide of Bolshevism?

[Add. image — Painting: Voljov 1941 by Augusto Ferrer-Dalmau. The Spanish Blue Division fighting in the Eastern Front.]

I will tell you: All of Europe would have been swamped without possibility of rescue by the end of the year 1943 or the beginning of 1944, before Gen. Dwight Eisenhower had ever run a tank over his first apple tree in Normandy.

[Add. image — A German soldier with his arm (foreground) blown off.]

Forty-four years have now elapsed. All the European countries the Soviets conquered—Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Rumania and Bulgaria —have remained under their pitiless domination.

The smallest uprising occurs in East Berlin, Budapest or Prague, and the motorized brass knuckles arrive. Russian tanks blast down the dreamers at point blank range. Starting in July 1945, the Western Allies, having bet so imprudently on “cooperation” with Stalin, began ever so slowly to be disenchanted.

The first sign was when Churchill muttered to Truman under his breath at Potsdam — as they were leaving a meeting with Stalin, the real victor of World War II:

“We stuck the wrong pig.”

What pathetic and tardy regrets: “We stuck the wrong pig!”

Yes, Winston, for your previously “good pig” now bestrode like a giant dragon both Europe and Asia, fire-breathing his glee, the dragon’s tail at Vladivostok and the snout 120 miles from the borders of France.

The snout is still there, 44 years later, more menacing than ever, to the point that in our time no one dares even to address it except by bowing and scraping first.

The day after the 1968 crushing of Prague, the Johnsons, the De Gaulles and the Chancellor Kiesingers of this base world restricted themselves to mere protests, platitudes and timid regrets.

Meanwhile, half of Europe suffocated under the huge paunch of the Pig.

Does all this not suffice to justify our combat against Bolshevism?

Is it just — is it decent — that those who foresaw the danger clearly — those who from 1941-45 blocked the gory path of Soviet tanks by hurling in sacrifice all their youth, the tender ties to their families, their young energies, and their desires — that they are treated as pariahs unto the day of their death and even beyond the grave?

Yes, pariahs whose lips are nailed together from the moment they try to explain to those who hound them; “we too were just like you. …”

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BELGIAN WAFFEN SS GEN. LEON DEGRELLE was an individual of exceptional intellect, dedicated to Western Culture. He fought not only for his country but for the survival of Christian Europe, preventing the continent from being inundated by Stalin’s savage hordes. What Degrelle has to say, as an eyewitness to some of the key events in the history of the 20th century, is vastly important within the historical and factual context of his time and has great relevance to the continuing struggle today for the survival of civilization as we know it.

In the next issue of THE BARNES REVIEW, Degrelle describes the fascist countries—Portugal, Spain, Germany and Italy—and Hitler’s disastrous and unrequited affection for a “jealous,” a “theatrical” Mussolini. This latest series of the valuable works of Gen. Degrelle has been translated and will be archived by JOHN NUGENT, a longtime European-American rights activist, former Marine machine-gunner and writer.

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For before we volunteered, we too had happy lives, houses with comforts, children who cherished us, and things we owned that made life easier …

We too were once young, with bodies vibrant with energy, bodies that desired pleasure, that smelled the fresh air and the fragrances of spring, and grasped for life with a triumphant eagerness …

And we too were passionate about our work. We young men reached for our ideals …

But then we were called away by our conscience to discard our 20 years, our 30 years of normal life, and all our dreams faded. We marched far away into nightmarish suffering, into incessant anguish, into the dread of eternal cold invading one by one all our body parts. We entered a world where wounds ripped our flesh, and unending combat — so often hand-to-hand — snapped our bones, left and right. It was a time of horrific hallucinations; how terrible when you realize they are reality!

Did you, “Mr. So Quick to Condemn,” see our comrades in death agony? Did you hear the red hiccup of gore going up their throats? Did you see our blood streaming in glue-like mud or spreading dark violet across the snows?

We returned haggard from the land of killing — more alive than dead, but no, less than alive.

Forty-four years later, we remember our parents dead in prison and our parents murdered as well as our arrival in distant exile at the end of our rope. The “democracies,” irascible and vicious, have ever since continued to pursue us with inextinguishable hate.

[Add. image — Léon Degrelle anticipating the arrival of a Russian attack in Estonia, in August 1944.]

There was a time, such as after the 1625 Battle of Breda in the Netherlands (it can still be appreciated in Diego Velazquez’s masterful painting in the Prado Museum of Madrid [4] when the victor offered his embrace, his commiseration and his affection to the vanquished. A human gesture! Because to be defeated — what suffering is there in that alone —and to see the collapse of one’s plans and one’s efforts; to stand with clenched fists facing a future that has vanished forever, and to see the empty carcass of the Reich breathing its last — a pain that finds no adequate words!

What punishment for us, had we been guilty!

What suffering we received, but we had dreamt only of the triumph of purity!

In less ferocious times, the victor would reach out fraternally toward the vanquished foe, understanding the immense and secret pain that is felt by him who, though his life had been spared, had lost all that gave that life meaning.

What value has life for a painter whose eyes have been put out, or for a sculptor whose arms have been ripped from their sockets?

What does life yet offer a political leader whom the Fates have smashed, who had borne faithfully his burning idealism, who had possessed the willpower and energy to translate visions into realities and to venture to change life itself for his people?

Never again will he realize his goals; never again will he create.

For him, the core has died.

You ask: During the tragedy of World War II, what was our core? How were the “fascisms” born that have been the center of our lives? How did they thrive? Why did they founder?

After 44 years, what justice should we accord them?

Image: a pensive Col. Degrelle after extended service on the Eastern Front. By this time he had suffered horrors that broke lesser men.

ENDNOTES

[1] In Cold Blood, 1965, also made into a Hollywood film.

[2] His arrest in 1965 in Bolivia alongside Che Guevara caused an avalanche of protest from a panoply of American and French leftist intellectuals and authors.

[3] Born in Germany in 1945 and raised in France as a Jewish “citizen of the world,” Daniel Cohn-Bendit renounced his French citizenship in 1958 to avoid military service. He went back into France to lead the 1968 Paris student revolt, in which Gen. De Gaulle sent out tanks to protect the government.

Expelled as a “seditious alien,” Monsieur (or Herr) Cohn-Bendit founded in Frankfurt, Germany the militant group Revolutionaerer Kampf [Revolutionary Struggle] with a street rowdy friend, Joschka Fischer, he who now wears a three-piece suit as the “Green” foreign minister of the Federal Republic of Germany.

In 2003, Cohn-Bendit, now a German member of the European Parliament located in Strasbourg, France, was sought for arrest by the Frankfurt (Germany) police for harboring the long-sought Baader-Meinhof terrorist Hans-Joachim Klein — at his home in Normandy, France. The European Parliament refused to lift his parliamentary immunity.

Cohn-Bendit also founded a leftist kindergarten “to radicalize” tiny Germans. Later he was accused of pedophilia after writing an autobiography in which German children “opened [his] fly and caressed him.” (No parents with the “Radikaler Kindergarten” complained.) A member of both the French and German “Green” parties, Cohn-Bendit violated the French party’s statutes by not donating to them a percentage of his European Parliament salary. With his striking red hair, his epithet in France is “Danny le Rouge” (Danny the Red).

[4] In 1625, during the Dutch war to expel Spanish occupiers, General Ambrogio Spinola (an Italian marquis in the service of Philip II) learned from a captured letter that the defenders of Breda, the fortress city he was besieging, were running out of food and ammunition. The Spaniard offered generous surrender terms to the Dutch. They accepted, and in his mercy he followed the terms to the letter. In this painting by Diego Velazquez of rare humanity in war, the Dutch commander Justin von Nassau is seen supplicating General Spinola—who bids him magnanimously to arise.

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Ursula Haverbeck “The Greatest Problem of Our Time” — TRANSCRIPT

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[In this 19 minute video Ursula Haverbeck, a German woman who lived through WWII challenges the German authorities, declaring their inability to provide genuine evidence for the so-called “Holocaust“. Her conclusion is [quite rightly] that there was NO “Holocaust” and that it is black propaganda, stating [again quite rightly] that WWI and II were created by organized jewry as part of their larger plan for world domination, aka, the Jew World Order — KATANA.]

Ursula Haverbeck

The Greatest Problem of

Our Time

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This nice little old German lady is breaking the law. What she says in twenty minutes in this video could land her in prison for up to five years. That law is wrong.

Find out why, as Ursula Haverbeck challenges “The Greatest Problem of Our Time.”

Visit Ursula’s site (in German): http://ursula-haverbeck.info/

Transcript

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My dear fellow Germans, do, you know the answer?

Where did the murder by gassing of six million (or at least, millions) of Jews take place?

For five years now I have been asking this question — and waiting, in vain, for the answer.

Perhaps you will think it is rather remarkable that I should even pose this question.

Why do I do it?

The “Holocaust” is self-evident, after all, everyone knows that six million Jews were gassed, above all in Auschwitz. And yet, precisely in the past twenty to twenty-five years this claim has become ever more questionable.

First, through the reduction of the number of victims in Auschwitz itself. It was there — and this in the public news programming of ZDF TV — on the eighth of October, 1993, in the open view of all citizens. That the old memorial tablet with it’s “Four Million Murdered” was taken down and replaced with a new tablet with only “About One and a Half Million”.

[Image — click to enlarge] The changing plaques of Auschwitz.

And in a debate afterwards, Jews, Poles and Gypsies quarreled over who had the biggest share among these victims. An explanation or even an apology to the German people for having, for decades, accused them with a false number was nowhere to be heard.

Secondly, through an article published by “Der Spiegel” editor Fritjof Meyer, in a respected scholarly journal, namely “Osteuropa!” [Eastern Europe], in May 2002, in which, taking note of new discoveries resulting from the emergence of previously unknown documents, etc., he comes to the conclusion that in Auschwitz itself no one at all was gassed.

[Image] Fritjof Meyer.

And it’s certainly not one and a half million either, but at the most — Mr. Meyer is very careful — in a subcamp of Auschwitz, in Birkenau, and even there, outside the camp itself, in a farmhouse (the foundations of which, curiously, have only recently been discovered) around (“presumably”, he says) 365,000 Jews were gassed. That too, thus, is an open question.

And amazingly Mr. Meyer has never been prosecuted or indicted or denounced to the police for “trivialization” of the “Holocaust”.

And thirdly — and this really is new for all of us, though it was published book in 2000 — the book “Garrison and Commandant Orders” from the Institute for Contemporary History, a collection of material which had been stored away in Moscow ever since Auschwitz was overrun by the Russians, by the Red Army, and which now was made available to the Institute for Contemporary History.

[44 pages excerpted from Garrison and Commandant Orders, Auschwitz 1940-1945 in German]

And already by the year 2000 the Institute for Contemporary History had deemed it necessary to publish it.

This is quite a thick book, mind you, and it costs the tidy little sum, today in Euros, of 124. But you can order it, and you can ask for it in the library too and study it there.

From these “Commandant Orders”, in which the instructions from the administration at Auschwitz to the guard staff were laid down, complete with dates, numbers and so on, all very precise as is usual with German officialdom, telling the guards what they are able to do.

It emerges clearly and undeniably, plain to see, that Auschwitz was NOT an extermination camp, but rather a work camp in which people were to be kept as fit for work as possible in order for them to work in the munitions industries which were necessary for the war effort.

Naturally, with the continuous worsening of the transportation conditions and the like, and of course the events of the war itself, it became ever more different to care for a large number of people in such a camp. But it was, and remained, a work camp and not an extermination camp. And that is precisely what, from the beginning, those who served there have always insisted.

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Now, finally, one might think, there would have to be a public explanation and a reconsideration, as well, of all the trials in which German is have been condemned because they doubted that Auschwitz was an extermination camp; here now we have the confirmation that they were right. But once more nothing happened.

To this day some of these people are still in prison.

All that should cause any thinking person to ask the question:

“If people are still being imprisoned because the murder of the six million Jews is ‘self-evident’, well then, where were they murdered?“

You need to tell us that.

And that led me to right with this question, repeatedly, to the Central Council of Jews in Germany, to whom I have written three times in succession in the last five years and asked them this question;

— then to the German Association of Judges;

— to the Chief Justices of the Regional and Higher Regional Courts;

— to the Prosecutors General’s Offices of the sixteen German States

— and now also to the Ministry of Justice.

Since I have received from these other institutions — and these are all public, official institutions — no answer to this question, quite plainly, none of the people written to and questioned knows where six million Jews were gassed, or even simply murdered.

That leaves, for a thinking person, only one conclusion: They have no answer, there is no answer! And why?

Because there was no “Holocaust”.

Since this murder is supposed to be “self-evident” — as the courts to this day never tire of emphasizing and holding up to us over and over — one cannot now go on about some kind of “order to maintain secrecy” [i.e., preventing us from knowing more] and a retreat book to a drastically reduced number of victims is also impossible. For then the singularity, the uniqueness, the unforgivable scope of the greatest crime of all time would be called into question.

We need merely think of the victims of the Rhine Meadow Camps, of Dresden, Hiroshima, … And the huge number of victims, more than 2,500,000, during the expulsion of the German is from the East.

[Image] German POWs in one of the Rhine Meadow Camps. Over one million German soldiers died through deliberate neglect in these camps after the war.

No valid confession can be extracted by torture and no one claimed that in this concentration camp there was ever a gas chamber be which people were gassed, except for [former Auschwitz commandant Rudolf] Hoess, who was tortured so terribly that he afterwards said:

“I would have signed anything”.

Indeed Fritjof Meyer himself noted that it is “not to be taken into account” in any reasonably fair trial when someone, after being tortured so terribly, says:

“Yes, it was three million, or however many million, whatever you like, that were gassed by us”.

I think it’s now become go clear and comprehensible for us, this question which we’ve always wondered about: Why indeed must there be this Paragraph 130 of the German Criminal Code?

In order to keep these things from being looked into too closely?

And it also becomes comprehensible that the innumerable motions to present evidence which the accused have put forward. These could only serve as evidence of something if that something happened; clearly they could serve as evidence of “nothing” — and so they had to disappear.

If we now look at world politics after 1945 it becomes clear that the “Holocaust” is the greatest and most enduring lie in history.

It was needed in order to finally complete the centuries long struggle for world domination but the “Chosen People” — that world domination was once promised to them by their god Yahweh, and they believed in that promise firmly, it was their conviction.

Whether we call them Zionists, Khazars, oligarchs or globalizers, it is always the same. World War I and II themselves, were merely a preliminary stage for this achievement — in their view, understandably, but why, why in the view of the French, the Swiss, the Germans?

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Why have German judges, whose independence is constitutionally guaranteed, gone along with that? Why have state prosecutors, who should represent the federal government, indeed the German state, represented the interests of Israel instead?

For that is what they have done in these trials.

And why have all the historians in our universities not unanimously refused to renounce their freedom of research, which likewise is guaranteed to them constitutionally?

And this poor, mis-educated, lie-fed German people, … Will it turn, indignant, against those who want to relieve it of this deeply implanted belief? Might Germans not be ready, and able, to rethink their beliefs?

The ancient Greeks used to lay such weighty questions at the feet of the gods. I do the same.

Before concluding, I would like to present a much needed — even if it has been done before — definition of the question work camped extermination camped concentration camp. I want to do this in order to prevent misunderstandings, and to emphasize once more the no revisionist has ever denied there were concentration camp is. Their existence is never questioned by the so-called “Neo-Nazis”, as they are called today, or “Right-extremists”, when these want to be taken seriously.

Moreover, concentration camp is were no invention of the National Socialists, but were already around during the Boer War in 19900, and indeed were established by the English.

And they’re still being used set up to this day by the Americans, as for example at Guantanamo Bay. According to the Hague Conventions on War on Land, members of an enemy nation may be interned in order to prevent espionage. And the multiple, repeated Jewish declarations of war against the Third Reich since 1933 led to a situation in which, as for example Professor Ernst Nolte has established, the Third Reich was justified in treating German Jews as prisoners of war, for these declarations of war had clearly demonstrated that Jewry considered itself at war with the Third Reich. Ernst Nolte says in his book, “The Passing of the Past” [Das Vergehen der Vergangenheit] where anyone can read it on page 171 and earlier as well on page 21.

So there were German concentration camps — no revisionist has ever disputed that. Nor is it disputed that the majority of the Jews were interned in them. This occurred in particular following the failure of Hitler’s many offers of peace to England. (See in this connection English historian Martin Allen in his book, “The Hitler-Hess Deception” which you can get at any bookstore.)

These concentration camps were, in Germany, in the Third Reich, work camps — during the war. The word, “concentration camp” however, is often used to evoke the idea of extermination — or emotionally provoke it. With the increasing ferocity of the war, and above all with the increasing bombardment of all transport facilities — practically the entire infrastructure in Germany — through Allied bombing raids, living condition in the concentration camp obviously became ever more difficult and not just for the German people.

And likewise it has not been disputed by anyone that in Germany concentration camp is there were incidents of cruelty and mistreatment and even murder. Why otherwise would four — some say even five — camp commandants have been brought before an SS Tribunal, with two of them even being sentenced to death?

[15:14]

The taking up and exposure and publication of these events has come about entirely through the efforts of the revisionists, they have never been mentioned in court. And I ask myself if any other state — any of the states that stood against us then in open hostility — had such drastic punishments existed for the mistreatment of prisoners?

If historians meanwhile have arrived at fundamentally lower numbers of victims (for the concentration camps) that needed does not mean that a correction was thereby made in public as well. The saying, “History is written by the victors” in no way implies that this history must correspond with the truth.

We must therefore demand, now that in verifiable form, and now that these official reports and contemporary statements from the time of the Third Reich, as, for example, the Commandant Orders, have been made public, that st the very least there should now follow a public explanation — I would say — an apology too from those who have spread these lies. And finally, of necessity there must also follow a reconsideration of all these convictions based on a false claim.

In conclusion, I would like to read a quotation from Germar Rudolf, who as a young chemist made a thorough study of the chemical properties of Zyklon B — on professional grounds — including on location in Auschwitz, something for which he had to spend three-and-a-half years in prison, because his research conclusions, as a chemist, were different from so-called political correctness opinion.

I would like to read this quotation from him in conclusion. Germar Rudolf writes:

“One of the important characteristics of evil is that it forbids questioning and it taboos or punishes the candid search for answers.” (I might add, punishes BY LAW.)

“By prohibiting a person to ask questions and to search for answers it is denying that which makes us human. For the capacity to doubt and to search for answers to pressing problems is one of the most important attributes that distinguishes humans from animals.”

This, one can read in his “Lectures on the ‘Holocaust’” page 12.

[Note: The entire PDF book can be downloaded (12.5 MB) here:

http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/15-loth.pdf]

It is therefore urgently necessary that an official, public clarification, unencumbered by any taboo or law, be provide to the German people and to the entire world that explains what really happened in the German concentration camp is.

Thank you.

(Subtitles in video by Kladderadatsch. Thanks for watching! )

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Teaching White Kids about Adolf Hitler — TRANSCRIPT

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[This is the transcript of a 65 minute video by the History Reviewed Channel guy, in his usual measured tone, on the need to teach younger Whites about Adolf Hitler and his true White revolution that severely threatened to break the power of Organized jewry. He highly recommends young people read Hitler’s Mein Kampf as part of their education in fighting jewish communist and liberal brainwashing. HRC guy is originally from Rhodesia, but has, since the early 1980s, lived in South Africa where he has witnessed how a once White ruled, first class country has deteriorated into a complete mess under black rule, engineered by Organized jewry — KATANA.]

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Published on Mar 20, 2016

Jews need a curtain of ignorance to descend on all people. Then Jews THRIVE! Hitler & Mussolini are the only two TRUE white revolutionaries in a long time, perhaps since the American revolution. Hitler’s legacy & goals have to be lied about because this is the only true, unexpected & successful revolution carried out by common whites from the bottom, which the Elite & Jews were not secretly sponsoring.

We also discuss Hitler & women. Why women liked Hitler & women were avid supporters of Hitler and the NAZIS.

We MUST teach all the white children about Hitler because they, sadly, have to continue the war which our forefathers & ourselves have LOST.

The War to FREE the White Race from Jewish mental slavery MUST CONTINUE. WE NEED FREE SPEECH & FREE THOUGHT FOR WHITES EVERYWHERE!

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Teaching White Kids

about

Adolf Hitler

By History Review Channel

TRANSCRIPT

[00:32]

Welcome to the History Review Channel where we analyze the lies and deceptions of history.

Finally the hectic stuff at work, etc., which has been keeping me up late at night and working a lot of extra hours, finally all of that is out of the way and I can resume a more normal routine again. But this being South Africa things are never quite stable. I notice this week when we were putting out our garbage that again the blacks had not come to collect the garbage. We have a company that we all pay money for and it’s part of our rates and taxes. We pay for a service but they decide when they’re going to work and when they’re not going to work. And this must be about at least the fourth time this year that they have not come to pick up our garbage.

But you can see that my neighbors are well practiced at this because when the blacks don’t come to pick up the garbage, then we all know to leave our bins outside for the rest of the week. Because you have no idea when they are going to come to actually pick it up. They have pitched up here late at night, some nights. Or they’ll pitch up on a Sunday or a Saturday or whatever day they feel like. And if your bin is not out then it’s not collected, so we just leave our bins out every day and that’s that.

The Post is just as disgusting. The Post as had me so angry that for about four months or five months last year I didn’t even bother to go to my post box. So many things have gone missing, I just didn’t care anymore. And I was tired of going there and just getting annoyed. So I picked up my post after about four months only to find all kinds of things have been returned and all sorts of stuff. But I was glad to see that at least some mail is going through. So now I’ll actually go back to my mailbox and go and check it more often. But there was one good thing in the mail. I couldn’t believe it when somebody I knew, sent me some photocopies of court papers. This guy told me he was going to take the Jews to court. And by golly he did! And it was delightful to see the papers and I saw the case number and the papers all signed and stamped. And I will put it out in a video so that you can see it. Somebody has dared to take on the Jews and the media and take them to court! And the way he does it is very very instructive! I wish we could get lots of law students and lawyers who would do something for Whites who can perhaps put in a bit of time to try and fight our enemies by legal means. Because it could open up a whole bunch of opportunities for us.

Of course I’m still delighted that the South African Post Office made a loss of 1.5 billion rand last year. I’m very delighted with it and may they go bankrupt. And may they lose many, many jobs and all that kind of thing. Because they are so utterly useless! In my younger days after I was in the military, I worked for the South African Post Office at the time. And although it was called the South African Post Office it also ran the entire telephone system in the country. And I worked at its Head Office and I was in the computer department there. And we used to get a lot more done. All these things that they can’t do nowadays we Whites were taking care of all of it, long ago. And really, we could take care of all these things if only it wasn’t that the law is against Whites.

[05:00]

They are jobs you can’t get hold of because of affirmative action. There are racial quotas that stop you from getting things. There are racial and sexual quotas. And if you start a business and your business is growing and becoming successful then you have to have black partners who own half of your business, at the very least. So there’s all kinds of things that stop us from doing things together, by ourselves for ourselves. And as I’ll show you, we can’t even donate money. Whites cannot even donate money exclusively for other Whites, without having blacks take a chunk of it.

So this is the mess of Southern Africa in 2016. What a freaking mess it is! This week again, suddenly, for no apparent reason the traffic lights were out, all over the show, traffic lights at main intersections were not functioning again. And on Friday I decided to quickly pop off to a shop near my work, on my way home. I need to find myself in what seemed to be like a traffic jam. And I couldn’t understand why the cars were moving so slowly. So I thought to myself, well it must be yet another traffic light that’s not working. But this time I was wrong. What in fact was happening was that a whole part of the road started washing away. After the driest summer that I’ve experienced, here in South Africa, in my more than thirty five years in South Africa. All of a sudden the rain came. And we had quite a bit of rain this week. And can you believe now with the rain the potholes are starting to expand. And that’s what happened on this piece of road. So the next thing I saw with these barriers showing us to go into one lane. And in front of me was quite a big pot hole. I was in a bit of a rush and perhaps did not make such a wise decision. But I wondered if I could sort of edge over this thing. And I sort of got it right, but my wheel fell into the pothole and I could hear the metal of the car actually hitting onto the tar. I really thought I’d damaged something.

But, I managed to get out of this pothole and I checked my car, and my old car is quite tough. So I was delighted to see that I couldn’t see any visible signs of damage. But all the other cars, the 4 X 4s had taken a more careful route than I had. And in the future I’ll have to learn to be a little bit more patient. But that’s a week for you in Johannesburg. This place used to be a first class city. And now look at the mess that it is.

Johannesburg for all purposes was the New York of Africa. They used to refer to it as the Golden City. And truly when I arrived here in 1981 this country and especially Johannesburg was very impressive, I must tell you. I’d never seen anything like it. And it’s definitely comparable with other First World cities. Well at least it used to be. But now it’s a flipping rat hole. And the extent to which it is getting worse is quite shocking. I worked in Randburg, and Randburg is on the fast track, down hill. I recall in the 1980s, in about 1985, 1986, I was working for the same company that I’m working for now. But I went on to leave them after two years back then. And then for eighteen years I worked for myself and I did other work.

Back then in the middle of the 1980s we had to do a survey because we were in our offices in the center of Johannesburg, just south of the center of Johannesburg. And they wanted to know where to build a new Head Office. So they did a survey among the employees back then in about 1985, 1986.

[10:00]

Asking, where would be the best place to build a future Head Office. What would work for us? So I remember among the choices was the center of Johannesburg itself. And then the other alternative was Randburg. They had some buildings in Randburg. But a lot of people looked at Randburg as the up and coming part of Johannesburg in the future. And they saw lots of businesses expanding out into Randburg. Anyway, there were quite a lot of people who were in favor of moving the head office to Randburg. But in the end they chose to rather build the new offices in the center of Johannesburg.

So back then in 1985, 1986, Randburg was seen as the up and coming part of Johannesburg that would be rocking in the future. So that is about thirty years ago. But now thirty years later I’m telling you, Randburg is going down hill like you can’t believe. In later years I moved to a suburb near Randburg. And then I saw the beginning of the end coming. And I moved elsewhere. But I’ve spoken to business owners in Randburg and I can tell you, Randburg is going to become one rats’ nest of a place in the future in Johannesburg.

Already the businesses, all those liberal businesses which had been moving en-masse to Randburg back then. They days are over. And businesses have been abandoning Randburg left right and center. Buildings which were built only for business purposes are now being sold to blacks as apartments. The place is going to become one rats’ nest in the future, I tell you.

So in the short space of thirty years, a place that had been rising and big companies were pouring billions of Rands into developments there, they are running for the hills now. And there is only very little development that’s actually going on there. Those who know Johannesburg and know what a rat hole Hillbrow became. I’m telling you Randburg is going to be the next Hillbrow. Already Windsor which is near Cresta is already a Hillbrow. For the Americans Hillbrow would be like your inner cities, where the blacks dominate. And where you have high crime rates and all that sort of thing. That’s how these things are spreading here.

So those people in my family who grew up with me and we spent our childhood in Rhodesia, we sit and we look at where things are going. What a mess everything is and we often long for Rhodesia. But those who grew up with me in Rhodesia, they now have children, and the children are starting to finish high school. And they’re starting to look for jobs or prepare for university, those who can. So now they tried it, to educate their children, to tell them what life was like in Rhodesia and what Rhodesia was like. Because these kids were born under black rule. So these White kids don’t know what it’s like to live under a White government. And we can tell them, because we lived under the last White rulers of Rhodesia and of South Africa. But the kids don’t know what it’s like.

Now a concern that I had when the blacks came to rule South Africa was that you could see the government and those liberals and the Jews. They had all done everything they could to prepare the schools and universities to turn the White kids into White hating communists and to propagandize all the kids. And indeed it was a big concern. And I remember being concerned that the White kids could turn out to be anti-White. And they’d be working for the enemy. But it does appear that the attempts at propagandizing the kids have met with mixed success and it’s not being quite as successful as they had hoped. So some of these kids, perhaps through the influence of the parents, have been able to retain some sanity and their parents have been able to guide them to certain degree. So there is some hope.

[15:13]

And the most interesting hope that came along was two years ago when one family member of mine who grew up with me told me that her oldest daughter was a fan of Adolf Hitler! That absolutely astounded me! And interesting enough, some time back, about three years ago I was dating an Afrikaan woman, and she also had quite a fascination with Adolf Hitler. So it came as quite a surprise to me in the last three years or so, to discover that they are women who are drawn to Adolf Hitler. In the time of Germany, Adolf Hitler had huge numbers of female fans. The women were crazy over him. They were crazier over him than probably any politician that has ever lived. Not even Bill Clinton or any of the others, had the hold of a women that Adolf Hitler had.

So for me, it was a fascinating discovery that women found Adolf Hitler interesting. And that they were drawn to him. And interesting enough it doesn’t seem as if these women are just drawn to him because of anything he was saying. It was more the way he was saying things and his intensity which was really the thing that was drawing them to him. They could sense there was something driving this man. They didn’t understand it, but they wanted to know what was making this man so animated. Now Adolf Hitler was an extremely brilliant man. And the more you begin to understand how many problems he faced, and he overcame them all, one by one.

Then you realize how much intelligence and effort and dedication this man had for his task. And here was a guy who was fighting a liberal slash communist system that the Jews had completely sown up. And the Jews had completely sown up Germany. Germany was in the palm of their hands. And along came this man, Adolf Hitler, and all alone, against unbelievable odds, he assembled people.

And the mere fact that he could even get to becoming the leader of Germany is a miracle of miracles. This man achieved the impossible. Just by walking into the Chancellory and becoming the Chancellor of Germany in January 1933, that was all a miracle! The fact that he went on to doing other things like, uniting the Germans, and bringing Austria and the Germans in Czechoslovakia, and all these other Germans together, that was already something that marked him out for greatness. Never mind the achievements of the Germans in World War II, when they faced global Jewry, who used the rest of us Whites as their stupid soldiers fighting for our own destruction! And the trend of White men fighting for the wrong reasons continues to this day. The American Army and the American military is doing exactly that. They’ll fighting for the Jews and they’re fighting unwinnable wars. I have a book that was written by an American General, I think it is.

And he wrote and warned of this about fifty years ago. He said that, all these soldiers of America would be fighting these unwinnable wars, and it would not work out. And what is happening? Where are we in 2016? We see America still at war with the Arabs, all sorts of people that they shouldn’t be at war with. But these Jews, these Jews, worked to create animosity between the White race and the black race. The Jews have worked hard to create animosity between Arabs and Whites. And all of these animosities are things that didn’t need to exist.

[20:17]

But returning to Adolf Hitler, I just want to read a little bit out of Mein Kampf to you, because it will show you that this man had insights into all sorts of things, including women.

So here he talks about the broad masses of the people and how they are almost like a woman. Adolf Hitler had his first experiences with communism and communist propaganda and it’s raw brutality. So, on page 34 of Mein Kampf, he writes:

“I now realized the meaning and purpose of those brutal orders which prohibited the reading of all books and newspapers that were not read. And at the same time demanded that only the Red meetings should be attended. In the clear light of reality I was able to see what must have been the inevitable consequences of that intolerant teaching.”

And here he’s talking about communist propaganda and how everybody is on the side of the commies is told you mustn’t read anything of the side. Now of course exactly that is going on today. Because you’ll see how the Jews and the Liberals try to do everything possible to get the White kids and everybody away from reading anything that is not. Liberal! That is not theirs!

Because they know that the moment somebody reads something else, that, that person’s mind might break itself loose from those chains. Those mental chains that come from believing the lies. And of course this is critical stuff that we need to fight against. We need to get their minds out of their chains.

But then, Hitler continues:

“The mentality of the broad masses is accessible only to what is strong and uncompromising. Like woman, whose inner sensibilities are not under the sway of abstract reasoning, but all always subject to the influence of a vague emotional longing for the strength that completes her being. And who would rather bow to the strong man, than dominate the weakling.

In like manner the masses of the people prefer the ruler to the suppliant. And are well led with a strongest sense of mental security, by a teaching that brooks no rival, than by one which offers them a liberal freedom. They have very little idea of how to use that freedom, and thus they are prone to feel that they have been abandoned. They feel very little shame at being terrorized intellectually. And they are scarcely conscious of the fact that their freedom as human beings is impudently abused. Nor have they the slightest suspicion of the intrinsic fallacy of the whole doctrine. They see only the ruthless force and brutality of its determined utterances. To which, they always submit.”

So it’s interesting how Hitler describes a woman. And he says so correctly. He says that she is driven at her inner levels, not so much by abstract reasoning, but actually by other deeper emotions and longings. He’s understanding that there is an animal inside of men and inside of women too. There’s nothing wrong with this. This is just the way nature is. This is just the way we are made. They are many things in our makeup that are quite unconscious to us, and we do these things automatically. And it is nature that is at work, and nature resolves certain things for us. And we’ll come back to some of these topics.

[25:00]

But notice here, that he says that a woman ultimately yearns for a strong man. And she would rather let a man dominate her. Not all women are like that. I do you know women who are the opposite of that. But it shows you these something deep in there. And it shows you that he’s not stupid, he understands the deeper parts of people.

And that is one of the amazing things about Adolf Hitler. Is how well he truly understood people. He really understood people. They never give him credit for this. And in the bits and pieces that I’ve read about him and what I’ve read of his writings, I can see this man grasped people. This was a guy who was out there among people, and he learned what people are about. And he learned all the finer workings of them. And he probably understood them better than anybody else. And that is why he went on to understand when the Jews were busy playing others. Because he had the intellect that allowed him to see deeper and to see where the Jews are busy playing people. And people are allowing the Jews to get away with too much. And we’ll get back to all these topics.

But anyway, I was so delighted to see that one young person in our family, actually was interested in Adolf Hitler. Now my relative has also tried her hand at a bit of art, and when she heard of course that Hitler had been a painter, she’s sort of felt that there is something there. They that there is something his artist side, that is interesting.

But those of you who’ve watched my video of Two Emperors of the White Race, you’ll know that the arty side was not as important as the architectural side. There were other things that Hitler had the skills that were more pronounced than his art skills. So my relative said to me, that her daughter wants to buy Mein Kampf. And then I said to her:

“No, no, no! Tell her not to spend a cent on Mein Kampf. I know where to get that best Mein Kampf, of all.”

And I said to them, you can get Mein Kampf, the Stalag Edition, which is the only, officially authorized translation of Mein Kampf ever issued by the NSDAP! You will know them as the Nazi party. But their correct acronym is NSDAP. So, Mein Kampf was translated by one of its members and the party authorized this version and this version was put into various camps [Stalags] where these prisoners of war, were. And this was the version of it that was published and distributed. The only English version published and distributed by the Nazi party. This version was translated in 1937.

Anyway, the Barne’s Review, they sell this version of Mein Kampf. And I bought a copy for myself. And I had a copy of Mein Kampf that came from England. It was one of the British translations of Mein Kampf. But true to form when I read the Stalag Edition and started reading the Stalag Edition and comparing it to the British translation, it is definitely a much smoother read, a much nicer read. And I took various pages and compared them to see, word for word, how they compare. And the two say pretty much the same thing. But what I noticed was that the translation by the British was much more laborious to read. It was definitely not a nice read. So you get exactly the correct message, but it’s just that one is worded better than the other one.

[29:40]

And also in this British translation, they have about forty pages of notes, before you get to the first word that Adolf Hitler has written.

And to go and go through all those forty pages of mind numbing commentary, along with all these other things. You know, where they are busy saying also, “Ah, you know, German propaganda” and this and that. Meanwhile, the stuff that you’re reading written by the Englishman, that’s British propaganda! So you’ll see all these Jews in English always busy saying, “Oh well, you know, the Germans were putting out their propaganda”. And you? Aren’t you putting out your propaganda, even right now? What about that? How’s your propaganda going? 2016 and you’re still putting your propaganda out!

So, in this day in age of the Internet and all that, what is wrong with reading what Adolf Hitler wrote? We’ve had all kinds of garbage thrown at us from liberals, from jews. We’ve had to listen to blacks talk their nonsense. Everybody’s had their chance to say their say about everything in life! And the one group of people that you can never get to hear anything from, are the Germans! The Germans! The Germans can’t speak about Germany! The Germans can’t speak about German history. They can’t defend themselves. For them to defend themselves is freaking illegal! If they try to defend themselves they go to jail! That’s a fact of life! And other Europeans also go to jail if they try and point out that, “You know, excuse me, what these Germans are saying is true!” Then they also end up in jail. Like these guys from France and so forth, Switzerland. They end up in jail.

So you’ve heard everybody and his dog talk about World War II. Well how about Adolf Hitler being allowed to say, his say? Why can’t you actually read the words of Adolf Hitler and just read what he had to say? He wrote this in 1923. This was written when he was in jail. He probably dictated this and somebody else wrote it down, but the bottom line is that it’s his words. And of course Adolf Hitler, I might add, ended up in jail because he tried to pull off a Putsch. He tried to overthrow the government. And he later explained that the reason he did it was, he feared that if he didn’t do something urgently that all the Germans would turn to communism. And as it was the Germans did turn to communism. And he and the veterans and the Nazis they had to fight a political and internal civil war in order to be allowed to contest elections and to go forward using the democratic system. Because the Jews and the commies were trying to drive them out of the democratic system.

In exactly the same way that you see these blacks attacking Donald Trump and trying to drive him out of the democratic system. This year, 2016 you’ll see how intolerant the so-called, tolerant liberals are. All the so-called progressive, you’ll see their levels of intolerance and how they will lie and lie and cheat and lie and lie some more. Now, Adolf Hitler and Mussolini in Italy, they both went through this kind of stuff. Much worse than this. They were openly stopped from engaging in normal political activities. They had to fight in order to get to the ballot box. They had to fight in order that they could conduct elections and win elections, normally. Because the Jews and the commies and the so-called liberals were all trying to prevent them from using the ballot box, which they had every right to use.

So when my family member said that her daughter wanted a Mein Kampf, I said to her, “Don’t waste a cent! I will get you a Mein Kampf. And I will get it from America.” And she had to wait for a long time because it was a hell of a battle for me. Must have taken me about seven months. But eventually I got the Mein Kampf and this week I met my family member. We hadn’t spoken for a long time. But she happened to be in Johannesburg on some work related stuff, and so we spent an evening having dinner, and a good chat, and catching up on lots of things. So I gave her the Mein Kampf for her daughter. And I decided that I’d write something in Mein Kampf, because I know, the moment that this youngster now starts reading Mein Kampf, that people are going to start with all the nonsense about Hitler. So I decided to write something on the inside cover. And just to give some background on this book and what is in it.

[35:07]

So here is what I wrote:

“You are the first person in our family to take an interest in Hitler, the greatest man since Napoleon. More lies are told about this man then anyone who ever lived. If this man had won World War II your mom and I would still be living in Rhodesia and the Boers would still be ruling this country. This book was written in 1923 when Hitler was in jail. Hitler was fighting jewish communism and trying to save Germany.

This book is historically accurate. The English and Jews tried to twist his words and even lie outright about actual statements, herein. If you watch my videos, especially the “Two Emperors” and “Jewish Malicious Rumors” and other videos, you will hear me say much more about him. I have several other books and videos on him, including when he was a boy. Hitler looked after his mother and even cleaned house until she died.

In World War one he won the Iron Cross First Class for bravery. Hitler read stacks of books including every book in the library at Linz. Hitler knew science and religion well. Hitler was extremely impressed with the Roman Empire, before the rise of Christianity.

The Waffen SS was his future model for all Whites, and it was based on Rome, and on modern science. What he says about race is true. I hope you enjoy this book.”

So I tried with those words to try and guide the youngster, so that she isn’t, misled or tricked by other people. And I hope that this is the beginning of his studies of Hitler, and the Germans and the Nazis, and what they got up to. Because those people were truly creative.

I am somewhat concerned about The Barnes Review since the death of Willis Cato, recently. I hope that this organization is not taken over and secretly co-opted by the Jews again. Because the Jews have a habit of waiting for people to die and then they move in on organizations. It appears to me that the Jews managed to take over Ford Motor company. Walt Disney was Jew wise, he never hired Jews. And Disney is now run by the Jews. So the is a long, trend where the Jews wait and bide their time. And when something good is being created by the Whites or by the White Right, in these Jews move in and they start taking it over.

You can see the same thing with the Kennedy family. You’ll see John Kennedy killed, his brother Robert killed and then suddenly you see the other Kennedy, the Kennedy who has the black mark. The Kennedy who is linked to the girl who died in that car accident. And that Kennedy seems to be a liberal. He’s suddenly broken out of the fold and instead of being a loyal Kennedy, he is a garbage Kennedy. And I wondered to myself whether, due to the death of that other girl somebody has got their hands around his balls and they have worked out a little deal with him and his life has been in service of the enemy. In service of the very people that JFK was up against and trying to defeat, unsuccessfully.

So you must know, my family are Christians. I’m not a Christian but, most of my family are Christians. And some of them are quite serious Christians and were all brought up to be pro-Jew. Because we didn’t know our history and we were unaware of what the Jews have done. And even in the history of South Africa, I’m going to show you how there were Boers that were wise to the Jews back in 1937. And we’re going to come back to a lot of these things and I’ll show you some interesting things, about how we used to be jew wise! And then the Jews came, destroyed those who were Jew wise, and then quietly brought down this curtain of ignorance.

[40:16]

Now this curtain of ignorance, exists across the whole Western world and Whites everywhere have noticed for [a] long [time]. I mean we’ve been talking about the dumbing down of people for the last twenty years, I’ve been talking about it and hearing about it. And even before then there were people who saw, “Ah, this curtain of ignorance. This dumbing down of people is going on.” And of course this curtain of ignorance is what the Jews need, because the Jews need ignorance.

The Jews need to bring darkness and stupidity into our lives. And the Jews also create fake revolutions where the Jews set up the revolution and the people at the bottom fight the revolution, thinking that they’re going to create something new. And in fact all they’ve done is the so-called upper classes and elite who are the ones behind the revolution, anyway. And you think you fought for something new but actually you’ve only entrenched them further. And they were behind the fake revolutions.

And in the case of Adolf Hitler and the Germans, what you are seeing is a real revolution! This is the real thing! These Nazis, Adolf Hitler, these guys with really striving towards the light. And these were people operating from the very bottom. The very, very bottom. This is a true revolution, driven from the bottom. A revolution that the elite, that the Jews, that the super rich, that all the entrenched people, even the entrenched aristocrats in Germany, … None of them could stop this thing! This was, the only true White revolution that took place! In the same way that in Italy, Mussolini pulled off the only true revolution in Italy. But in his case, he had a weakness, he liked Jews. And it could be that Mussolini’s weakness not only tripped him up, but caused him to become the Achilles heel of the Germans and Hitler.

But these were the only true revolutions. True revolutions that came from the bottom and that were spontaneous, and they were White Revolutions. And these were the guys who thought these things up and who managed to make headway. And Mussolini was the leader in this. He was the first guy to make headway. He drove liberals out of government. He actually collapsed the Liberal Government, and Hitler learned from Mussolini. But Hitler went on to become much better than Mussolini. However we have to admit that these two guys, they were pioneers. These are the only two White Revolutionaries, true White Revolutionaries that we’ve had. So as far as I’m concerned, that is also why, this book written by Hitler is such a contentious topic. I should add to that my Israeli jew friend admitted to me that the Arabs had always allowed Mein Kampf to be printed in Arab countries. The Arabs had Mein Kampf in their countries all the years that they ruled their countries. So they were the only people who never censored Adolf Hitler’s words.

But in all the Western countries of course, and now even this copy of Mein Kampf in Germany, there have to be notes and annotations on it. And it’s all intended to try and deflect and take away and subtract, in the most subtle manner, while pretending and feigning free speech! They are trying to undermine the actual message of Adolf Hitler. So that is why I believe that if you want to read Mein Kampf go to the most reliable and original sources on Mein Kampf and get away from these annotated copies.

So, in English, Mein Kampf the Stalag Edition is the best one that’s available. So for us White people, educating the children and preparing the children as the next generation, because they’ve got to live in the world. The messy world, the way it is and they’ve got to carry on the struggle. And we need to get their minds as educated as possible. So I’m trying to educate my family and, it’s nice to see that some are listening. Not everyone’s listening but some are listening. And there is hope in that.

[45:12]

The one thing that I urge all Whites to do is to share information with other Whites. Share knowledge with other Whites. Teach other Whites, inform other Whites. The more we can do this and increase our numbers and get people out of this Liberal jewish elite mental slavery, the better it will go.

It is truly a critical battle. And if we can get more people out, it will give us the weight of numbers that will allow us to do other things. Because part of what we must do, and Adolf Hitler’s his life is an interesting lesson. Interesting enough, violence worked for Mussolini and coming to power. Mussolini actually came to power by threatening violence. So, he actually did an interesting thing. But Hitler couldn’t pull it off. Hitler’s attempt was stopped. And in the end Hitler had to fight politically. And it turned out that he was actually a genius at political things. He actually had a tremendous talent for it. He would have preferred the quicker more violent way, but actually he was better as a politician. And he pulled off feats that politically were impossible.

But this man did the impossible. And this man is really the key guy to study because this man’s life and what he did, is as pure as can be in terms of just being a normal common White who came out of nowhere. I think Adolf Hitler also said that he was the man who came from nowhere. He was the man who came from nowhere, and the man who also disappeared, back into oblivion.

He came, he did his thing, and he was gone. He came, he was like a bright light, and then he was gone. And this man who came, so I unexpectedly, and managed to maneuver through that entire rotten Jew system. The system that everybody thought they had locked down. This is the man to study more than anybody else. Because, here you see a White man in his purest form. Thinking like a White man! And the way that the Germans and the Nazis thought is very important. And if we can pass this on to the future generations of White kids, this is utterly critical! They need to have a good solid education in our racial history. And they must understand it!

And another thing that came from my Boer Nazi pal, my Boer Nazi pal who studied Hitler for much of his life, and who was a university lecturer. He said to me that Adolf Hitler, the Waffen SS and the SS.

The SS was intended to be a State, and he said that he thinks that Hitler was creating a brand new State, using the SS. And from what I can tell the SS is built on the Roman Empire and it’s filled with scientific knowledge and this SS was perhaps the model for the future of Germans and the future of Whites. So I would say that studying Adolf Hitler should be the highest priority. The next great intellectual from the time would be a guy like Goebbels. There are others like Feder, who thought up the whole concept of, banking and getting away from interest and all that. But the other big thing to study is everything SS! SS is the model for the future of Whites. And that thing needs to come back. We need to find out anything and everything about the SS, because the SS was a huge thing. And they were also teaching the young boys to be the future leaders. And they were educating them intensely at the SS! I wish we could get our hands on all the educational materials that the Nazis produced.

Because if we could ever produce or reproduce some of that stuff and get that into the heads of the White kids, and get the White boys and White girls, and get them educated, according to those standards, I think we would be on to something big. We need to get these kids ready, because this war is going to carry on. And I don’t see anything quickly coming to an end.

[50:24]

There are a few additional points I want to make about children. I think a youngster who’s listened to my videos, took two of my shorter videos and he created a transcript of them, with screenshots of them and put them on his blog. I know the one that he did was my Jews 101 [JEWS 101: Whites Colonised Blacks; Jews Colonise Whites! — Introduction to the Jewish problem]. And I haven’t had a chance to thank him. Comments coming in thick and fast. And I’m just behind on everything in everywhere. But I wanted to thank him for his efforts and I appreciate anyone who spreads information about what I’m doing.

But I want to tell you White folks out there. A bit about Africa. Because these Jews and liberals being the sly garbage that they are, there is a lot that they never tell you. And if we Whites want to teach our children our values, they of course will run around shrieking and squealing and howling. And they’ll say that we are racist and all that sort of garbage. And we can be whatever the hell we want to be! They is no reason why we need to answer to jews or to liberals or to communists.

Now here in Africa none of these liberals will come and tell you this. But you can go and do a little bit of digging, and you’ll see it’s true. Here in South Africa for example, they have got initiation schools, for black boys and black girls. And they go away and they do various things to them. And some of these tribes even circumcise their kids, and their kids even die from infections, because they didn’t follow the basic rules of cleanliness.

Anyhow, these black kids, and there are a lots of these so-called, initiation schools in South Africa. These black kids go off into the bush and some of these elders and witch doctors and so forth, they go and they put them through some kind of training, to prepare them now for manhood, or womanhood. Now this stuff carries on. I’ve read about the fact that these kids get an education, and nobody ever tells these blacks, that they can’t do the traditional stuff. No Jew and no liberal stops them from doing this.

So why can’t White people have their own finishing schools? Or have their own means for training their youth? Or fixing up their youth after they’ve been ruined by the education system and put them through they own cultural schools. And their own racial schools! I don’t see any reason why we can’t have any of this. These blacks are doing it all across Africa, all the time! Why can’t White people do it in their own countries? But you won’t hear a peep in the media about it and these blacks even end up with kids dying from all this and nobody is hassled about it.

Of course I should mention that the Jews are busy teaching their own kids all their own evil, and these rabbis and all that. This is the root of all the evil of the Jews. So the Jews are busy teaching their kids. They don’t ask anyone’s permission. They just freaking do it. And look at all the nonsense that comes out of their stupid culture.

And then the other thing that really bothers me. Long time ago in the social media I said to people, White people must children away from the Jews and the liberals. Get your children away from Jews and liberals! I’m serious about this. The more you can do to get your children away from them and, you should warn your children, if you can’t get your kids away, you should have a talk to children. And warn them about these people that they’re going to meet up with in the schools and so forth. And they should be warned about the anti-White agenda of these people.

[55:00]

Now this anti-White agenda of these teachers. These so-called teachers in schools and universities, specially in universities, is really bothering me.

This week it came out yet again. Some stupid Afrikaner here in Southern Africa, some ass kissing professor, weakling fool, went and made a statement in public where he said that, “White kids should consider committing suicide”. And there was a Jewish professor, I think at Harvard University, who said the same thing to White kids.

These freaking professors are running around telling White kids that they lives are worthless, and they should consider killing themselves! Really, I think those people should be held up for murder or something! Because they are suggesting that people kill themselves! How can they be allowed to do this? Isn’t there some kind of law against this? I’ve never heard anybody say anything about it and I think it’s hideous.

And the other question I have for you is this. How many White kids are there who have committed suicide, as a direct result of what professors at universities told them!? There must be suicides and how many of these suicides might be linked to their stupid education!?

Nobody’s ever brought this up. But I think it should be looked into. And if these people are saying this to the kids, they should be fired. What on earth gives anybody the right to incite suicide? How different is that to murder? Of course you could say,:

“Oh well, you know, I was just making a suggestion”, or “I was just making a statement. But they killed themselves by their own hands”.

Well that is typical Jewish type of thinking and that is the kind of stuff Jews have been doing for centuries. But really, this kind of talk, I think there is no place anywhere in the world for this. And White people should look out and see to it that, their teachers are not destroying the children! Destroying the children, bringing the children to the edge of suicide, and all that kind of nonsense!

That is not what those places are their for! And that is not what they were meant for originally. But that is now the kind of politicized communist, jewish institution that these places of so-called, “Higher Learning” have become. So when the kids go they, now they have to listen to some freaking idiot telling them that their lives are worthless and they should consider killing themselves. I have some things that I think we should be saying to him, but I’m not going to say it here!

And my advice to every White person, and every White youngster. Under no conditions whatsoever, should you ever commit suicide! And if any White person even thinks of it, everybody else must do their utmost to talk them out of it and to help them out of it. Do not under any conditions, let any White person, boy or girl, young or old, ever commit suicide! Tell them that they are an asset to our race and all of us need them, and they must live at all costs. And nobody on our side must ever think of suicide, ever!

The suicide of Adolf Hitler is a whole different thing. In the case of Hitler and Goebbels, these people would have been torn apart physically and there is no end to the amount of hideous things that would have been done to them. You just have to go and look at what happened to Mussolini. They sent people to execute Mussolini, and in the end his body was hung up on meat hooks, naked in public. And in the case of Himmler, Himmler did surrender to the British and David Irving, the historian, has spoken about the fact that he was beaten to death by the English. And that the various forensic evidence that exists for this, showing that is face was bruised and battered and all that kind of thing.

[59:38]

Even Goering, who was at the Nuremberg trials, after having testified, he took a cyanide pill and killed himself. He knew what was coming. They all knew what was coming! And they had every right to take control of their deaths. They knew it was the end. And look at what happened to all of them. Look at what happened even to Rudolph Hess. Thrown in jail for his entire life. Never given the chance at anything and murdered at the end of it. No, these people had every right to do what they were doing. But that was a different situation and they only killed themselves when they knew that their time had come, and that they would not be lasting many more days longer.

So in that case, I agree with that. But for normal people in the current world, there is no reason for Whites under any condition to commit suicide. Ever!

I mentioned this to Monica Stone the other day of the South Africa Project. And she said to me it’s rubbish, as well. She said that this professor who says that the White kids here in South Africa should kill themselves. She says we should say to him:

“You go ahead and kill yourself first. Show us how it’s done”.

I have some other things I’d prefer to say to him. The bottom line is that the elite and all the top people in the world, everybody who’s risen to the top, like scum that floated to the top of the pond. All of these bastards have been filtered out and they’ve ensured that these people are anti-White! Everything is anti-White! Even liberalism itself, in every single aspect of it, it is actually anti-White!

So Whites should not to look up to these people as their leaders. They are not our leaders! These are people who’ve gone to the top, but they hate us and they’re trying to destroy us! And they’re trying to break down our morale. And they are trying to break down everyone’s morale.

This revolution of the Nazis in Germany, this stuff started by Adolf Hitler and his associates. These people were White people from the bottom, who created the only real revolution, that we’ve seen in our ranks in centuries. Maybe the only real revolution since the fall of Rome. Of course the American Revolution, I forget. That one is real, as well. But in terms of European revolutions, I think this might be one of the very few real revolutions that have happened in Europe, since the fall of Rome.

So that is why, these messages, and these words and these thoughts of these people are from common Whites who were workers and were soldiers. These were the normal Whites who managed to break free for a short period of time. And that is why they’re so important and why all of us can sit and relate to them.

The fact that the Jews tricked the rest of us into fighting them, is of course a sad story, but we must remember that those same Jews and those same elite are now working to destroy us. And they want to replace us with all these non-Whites. And in America they want to replace you with Mexicans, in Europe they want to replace you with blacks who are running from Africa, whom they mistakenly tell you are Syrians, and all sorts of things.

So as insane as it is, the elite of our own civilization are against us! That people who built and fought for this civilization. But this is exactly what happened in Austria. In the Austrian Empire, this is where Adolf Hitler grew up and he writes about this in Mein Kampf and we will come back to this, because those same tactics that were at work, over a hundred years ago in Austria are now at work in America today! And of course the sad fact is that the Germans and the rest of the Europeans didn’t escape from any of this. They’re back where they were, even worse off than they were a hundred years ago.

So I’ve got lots more that I want to do this weekend, and I want to thank you very much for listening. And I’ll be back shortly, and we’ll be talking a lot more. I’ve got a bunch of things that I want to try and do and finish and get ready for you.

[65:15]

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The Epic Story of the Waffen SS – Leon Degrelle

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The Epic Story of the Waffen SS

Leon Degrelle

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This is a self-spoken biography (with an introduction by his daughter). He was one of many, who wished and believed that they could make a better Europe and struggled mightily to that end. Whatever one’s political outlook.., one cannot doubt the courage and conviction of Degrelle or the men that he led. That he survived so much carnage and the vengeance of his enemies at the end is remarkable. That he then went on to produce such a memorable account of his experiences we should be thankful for. It was an epic struggle by any standards…

When Degrelle joined the Wehrmacht he was offered the rank of lieutenant, but he refused and he went into Russian campaign as an ordinary private. He points out that Waffen-SS was really a front-line unit and a respected fighting force. Also, that 98% were NOT professional soldiers, or just young men after adventure, or NOT the goose-stepping “half-mad” stereotypes of Hollywood. Most of the volunteer units had a tragic end as they would rather fight to the last man instead of being handed over to their vengeful countrymen. The Waffen-SS had an estimate of 150-250,000 European (non-German) volunteers who fought with honor on the eastern front, and many of them winning the highest medal for bravery in the German armed forces, the Knights Cross.

This eye opening historical video is a daring break from the all the typical “anti-German” videos and publications as it tries to show the real untold truth about the Axis dealings with foreigners, volunteers, minorities, helpers and other diverse international relations. He does quite well at telling the untold, unpopular AND startling truths of the real perspectives AND relations of Germans AND non-Germans during WWII. Unlike Hollywood AND the general media that just LOVES to project an inaccurate historical “pseudo truth” !!

This speech examines AND relates the real unclouded facts tainted by the “fantasy history entertainment” that is so popular today… Some people actually really believe that going to the movies AND reading books by those who won the war, etc.., is a history course made easy, simple AND fun !!

Yes.., and very sad to say.., “the beat goes on” (and on, and on).., as WW III will NOT be that much different from the first two that killed millions.., or that far off in the future !!

As always.., after watching.., do your best to “pass it on“…

“Truth Does Not Fear Investigation”

“He who Wins the War.., also Writes the History”

“The Truth shall make you Free.., but at first.., it’ll make you Damn Mad” !!!

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Living in Hitler’s Germany

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Living in Hitler’s Germany

A letter from Hans Schmidt of GANPAC

[Image] Hans Schmidt [1]

Published in the Hoskins Report, Dec. 1993 Richard Kelly Hoskins, publisher

You asked for someone who had lived in Hitler’s Germany to tell what it was like. Permit me, someone who lived under the Swastika flag from 1935, when the Saar was reunited with Germany, to 1945, to give a short answer.

To be a boy or girl at that time was wonderful. In the Hitler Youth the differences between Christian denominations or the different German states didn’t count. We all truly felt that we were members of one body of people – one nation. Youth hostels were opened all over the Reich, enabling us to hike from one beautiful town to another seeing our fatherland. Every effort was made to strengthen our minds and bodies. Contrary to what is said today, we were encouraged to become free in spirit, and not to succumb to peer (or authority) pressure. In peacetime, NO military training was allowed by the Hitler Youth leadership; scouting yes. Incidentally, to “snitch on our parents” was frowned upon.

[Image] Myself, about 1942 or 1943 in the Firefighters’ Hitler Youth. This unit was organized so that we were able to assist regular fire fighters after air raids. The uniform would be a rarity today, it was made of good material of undetermined origin (possibly from French army stocks) of a brownish color with a black collar. Due to the fine manufacture of these uniforms, for which we did not have to pay, they were better suited to impress the girls than to fight British incendiary bombs. I do not know what eventually happened to mine.

At the very time when America’s allies, the Soviets, destroyed most of the Christian churches in Russia and Ukraine, about 2,500 new churches were built in Germany. NOT ONE Christian church was closed. It was the law that school and church had priority over service in the Hitler Youth. As late as the fall of 1944, the Waffen SS barracks in Breslau supplied two buses to take youth to either the nearest Catholic or Protestant church every Sunday. To be a registered member of a Christian church did not prevent advancement in the National Socialist Party.

Germany was National Socialist, but free enterprise flourished during the entire Hitler years. No company was nationalized. No small businessman was stopped from opening up his own store. I myself worked during the war for a company that can only be called part of international capitalism. If you owned shares, nobody confiscated them, like the allies did in 1945.

[Image] National Socialist Autobahn road network

The accomplishments of the ‘Nazis’ were incredible. Starting without money and with six million unemployed (a third of the workforce), they constructed the entire German Autobahn road network in a short span of 6 years – almost without corruption – while seeing to it that the new road system did not unnecessarily destroy either the German landscape, or wildlife habitats and forests. Two years after the NS were elected to power, conditions were so improved that workers had to be hired in nearby friendly countries to help alleviate the worker’s shortage in Germany. Germany was booming while Britain, France and the US were in the depths of depression.

[Image] Adolf Hitler at the presentation of the Beetle

To help the workers get cheap transportation, the VW was designed and a factory was being built for their manufacture when the war started. Also, for the common people, villages of small single family homes were erected. The monthly payments were set so low that almost anyone could afford his own house. In Hitler’s Germany there were no homeless; no beggars. Crime was almost non existent because habitual criminals were in concentration camps. All this was reported in the newspapers and was known by everybody.

The German press during the Third Reich had fewer taboos than the American press today. The only taboo I can think of evolved around Hitler, and, during the war, there was a law that prohibited “defeatism”. This was because of the negative role the German press played in the German defeat of 1918.

It bears remembering that the “European Economic Community” was first coined by the Third Reich government. I remember many articles, both pro and con about this subject. One should also not forget that during the war at least seven million foreign nationals (nearly 10% of the population) worked in Germany, either as voluntary workers (Dutch, Danes, French, Poles, Ukrainians come to mind), or as forced laborers or as prisoners. I know of no instance where foreigners were attacked or molested (much less killed) because they were foreigners. Speaking of the press, I have an article from 1943 in my possession that spells out how necessary friendship is between the German and Russian peoples.

Between 1933 and 1945 there was a tremendous emphasis on culture: theatres flourished; the German movie industry produced about 100 feature films per year (of which not one was anti-American. Only 50 of them can be considered pure propaganda movies). Some the best classical recordings still extant were made in Hitler’s Germany. Actors from all over Europe, but mainly from France, Sweden and Italy were stars in German movies.

Germany always loved sports, and there was no lack of opportunities to partake in any sport one liked. The 1936 Berlin Olympics was merely a showcase of what transpired all over the Reich. In a book on these Olympics issued by the Hitler Youth that is still in my possession, Jesse Owens is shown several times and mentioned favorably.

[Image] Jesse Owens at the 1936 Olympic Games in Berlin

During the Schmeling boxing fights, we kids all knew of Joe Louis, the brown bomber. Nowhere did I ever read derogatory remarks about other races. Certainly the accomplishments of Germany and the Germans were given prominence, similar to ‘the ad nauseum’ statements of today that the U.S. is the land of the free, etc. In my ten years in the Hitler Youth (actually 8, since I obviously couldn’t attend while a soldier), the Jews were never mentioned. Other sports that gripped our attention were flying (there was Hitler Youth flying training with their own sail planes), car races (British and Italian drivers dominated) and riding.

Frequently I am asked about gun control during the Hitler era. Claims are made that Hitler could take power because he disarmed the German people. That is nonsense. In Germany gun ownership was never as prevalent as it is in America. I would say that for hundreds of years one needed a gun license in order to keep a weapon.

[Image] Our service in the Hitler Youth did not take all of our time, as seen from this picture of 1938. We had invited playmates form the neighborhood to play soldiers. Note the real weapons from our attic. Two guns were old flintlock rifles. One of the swords was a beautiful, hand engraved antique. All these weapons probably ended up as war booty in America. The headgear was from prior wars. Of the five boys at the top, Kurt Seiler, myself [arrowed], RolfBorschel and Erich Seiler served in the Waffen-SS. Kurt died in Hungary, Erich rose after the war to a high police rank, Rolf was unlucky enough to get caught in the French dragnet of 1947 (which I escaped) and ended up a slave worker in Lille.

On the other hand, my father owned an old pistol clandestinely (about which we children knew), and there were gun clubs all over the Reich. Furthermore, Germany was always a country with many excellent gunsmiths. It is doubtful that they could stay in business if the laws were too stringent. I would surmise that while Germany was Germany (before it was ‘liberated’ by the allies) gun ownership probably was far more widespread than is acknowledged today. Laws on the books were mainly to give the police a handle to arrest criminals with guns, not the ordinary citizen. Incidentally, just as Hitler had forbidden so-called ‘punishment exercises’ in the army (the brutal methods still employed in the American army), so had he forbidden the use of clubs by the police. He considered it demeaning to the German people.

Finally this:

I don’t believe I’ll ever see again a people as happy and content as were the great majority of Germans under Hitler, especially in peacetime. Certainly some minorities suffered: former parliamentary politicians – because they couldn’t play their political games; the Jews – because they lost their power over Germany; the gypsies – because during the war they were required to work; and crooked union bosses – because they lost their parasitical positions.

To this day I believe that the happiness of the majority of a people is more important than the well-being of a few spoiled minorities. In school there should be emphasis on promoting the best and the intelligent, as was done in Germany during the Hitler years – a fact that contributed after the war to the rapid German reconstruction. That Hitler was loved by his people, there can be no question. Even a few week’s before the war’s end and his death, he was able to drive to the front and mingle among the combat soldiers with only minimum security. None of the soldiers had to unload their weapons before meeting with the Fuhrer (as was required when President Bush met with American soldiers during the Gulf War).

Germany under Hitler was quite different from what the media would have you believe.

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[1] Hans Schmidt (April 24, 1927 – May 30, 2010) was a German and naturalized American citizen, former member of the Waffen-SS, and founder of the German-American National Political Action Committee (GAN-PAC).

Schmidt was born on April 24, 1927, in Völklingen, a town in the then League of Nations mandate of the Saar Basin between Germany and France. During the National Socialist period, he was a member of the Hitler Youth, and, by his own account, joined the Waffen SS at the age of 17, and served as a corporal in the SS Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler, originally the personal bodyguard regiment of Adolf Hitler, later a Panzer division of the Waffen-SS. Schmidt was wounded twice and participated in the Battle of the Bulge. He arrived in the United States in 1949.

GAN-PAC

In 1983, Schmidt founded the German-American National Political Action Committee (GAN-PAC), which published the GANPAC Brief in English and the USA-Bericht in German.

Schmidt is the author of several books and articles including; SS Panzergrenadier: A True Story Of World War II.

From Amazon: This is the autobiographical true story and personal narrative of the German side of WWII. The author recounts the reasons that led him to decide to join the Waffen-SS in 1943 at the age of 16. He details his service in the German Labor Service (RAD) prior to induction into and training with the W-SS in 1944. The author recounts his extensive schooling prior to posting with the Leibstandarte SS Panzer Div., and his personal experiences in combat with the unit in the Ardennes and the final battles on the Eastern Front in Hungary, ending with American captivity. HB, 20 previously unpublished photos from author’s collection.

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Ernst Zundel – Another Voice of Freedom Radio – Why World War II Started – 1994 – Transcript

Ernst Zundel

Another Voice of Freedom Radio

Why World War II Started

Wed, Jun 15, 1994

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“Understand that a vote for National Socialism does not mean a change of government in Germany.”

“What you are doing with this election, it is a plebiscite on which way Germany is going to go.”

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Leon Degrelle — My Revolutionary Life: Muzzling the Vanquished

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My Revolutionary Life

Muzzling the Vanquished

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Waffen-SS General Leon Degrelle: A Life in the Crucible

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Ursula Haverbeck “The Greatest Problem of Our Time” — TRANSCRIPT

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“If people are still being imprisoned because the murder of the six million Jews is ‘self-evident’, well then, where were they murdered?“

Because there was no “Holocaust”.

“I would have signed anything”.

“Yes, it was three million, or however many million, whatever you like, that were gassed by us”.

If we now look at world politics after 1945 it becomes clear that the “Holocaust” is the greatest and most enduring lie in history.

It was needed in order to finally complete the centuries long struggle for world domination but the “Chosen People” — that world domination was once promised to them by their god Yahweh, and they believed in that promise firmly, it was their conviction.

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“One of the important characteristics of evil is that it forbids questioning and it taboos or punishes the candid search for answers.” (I might add, punishes BY LAW.)

“By prohibiting a person to ask questions and to search for answers it is denying that which makes us human. For the capacity to doubt and to search for answers to pressing problems is one of the most important attributes that distinguishes humans from animals.”

It is therefore urgently necessary that an official, public clarification, unencumbered by any taboo or law, be provide to the German people and to the entire world that explains what really happened in the German concentration camp is.

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Teaching White Kids about Adolf Hitler — TRANSCRIPT

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The Epic Story of the Waffen SS – Leon Degrelle

The Epic Story of the Waffen SS

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